Why Your Doctor Won’t See You Now

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Unless you embrace some serious measures to make sure you are taking care of your health, you may find yourself in a serious medical situation. As soon as Obamacare takes effect, this program, along with a number of other factors, may make it much harder to visit a doctor.

So, there’s only one person you can rely on to promote your good health – yourself.

For one thing, we are facing a looming, serious shortage of physicians. According to the Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC), we are facing a dire predicament. You can expect a shortage of more than 90,000 doctors over the next 10 years.

The anticipated shortage derives from a handful of factors:

  • The Census Bureau projects a 36 percent growth in the number of Americans over age 65; the population segment with the greatest healthcare needs.
  •  The Department of Health and Human Services estimates that the physician supply will increase by only 7 percent in the next 10 years.
  • The passage of the Affordable Healthcare Act (Obamacare), intended to insure an additional 32 million Americans, plus 15 million patients who will become eligible for Medicare, will vastly increase the demand on physician services.

An Aging Population

As I point out in my new book, Navigating Obamacare, “In addition to a growing elderly population, people are living longer and experiencing age-sensitive conditions, like cancer, that require specialists and surgeons. The AAMC’s Center for Workforce Studies believes there will be 45,000 too few primary physicians and a shortage of 46,000 surgeons and specialists in this next decade.”

Part of the doctor deficit will no doubt be caused by early retirement of doctors not happy with the direction American healthcare is taking.

A survey by The Deloitte Center for Health Solutions surveyed more than 600 physicians and found that six in 10 (62 percent) said it was likely many of their colleagues will retire earlier than planned in the next one to three years.

It’s Likely Your Doctor May Refuse to Treat You

If you are on Medicaid or Medicare, or will be accepted into the Medicaid expansion, you may have a hard time seeing a doctor. Of more than 1 million physicians, therapists and counselors nationwide, only 43 percent currently accept Medicaid, according to a new study by HealthPocket, a technology firm that compares and ranks health plans.

As of May 2013, 26 States and the District of Columbia have opted to participate in the Obamacare Medicaid expansion and it’s estimated that 5 million to 8 million new patients will gain access to Medicaid coverage under the law.

Medical Concern

These changes in our healthcare system have doctors concerned.

“If the current Medicaid acceptance rates hold true for 2014, timely access to care for those relying on Medicaid is likely to become more difficult as enrollees compete for an already inadequate pool of doctors,” said Kev Coleman, the head of research and data at HealthPocket.

Doctors are accepting fewer and fewer Medicaid patients for two reasons: Too little pay and too much paperwork. And it’s only going to worsen.

On average, Medicaid physicians are only paid 56 percent of what private insurance pays. Lower payment rates already discourage doctors from accepting Medicaid recipients, which has lead to accessibility issues and emergency room overcrowding.

As more patients enroll in this broken program, it will place even more financial strain on physicians who treat them. Doctors will be faced with the decision to either discontinue treating Medicaid patients or accept even more patients at the lower payment rate.

Additionally, doctors will have to focus increasingly on red tape—government rules and regulations, mountains of paperwork—rather than the specific needs of their patients.

To retain the doctors who take Medicaid patients and to recruit new ones, Obamacare promised to increase Medicaid primary care payments to the same level as Medicare’s in 2013 and 2014. However, those increases were supposed to start in January 2012, and have already been delayed.

Because so much of Obamacare is simply speculation, just like the insurance exchanges, many doctors are cutting their losses and cutting Medicaid and Medicare patients altogether.

Self-Care

The message of all these developments is clear: When it comes to reliable medical care and better health, you’ve got to be self-reliant. Unless you eat a healthy diet of whole foods with lots of fruits and vegetables, exercise and keep your stress levels down, you may find yourself in a health crisis without significant medical help.

 

– Michael Cutler, M.D.

Personal Liberty

Dr. Michael Cutler

is a graduate of Brigham Young University, Tulane Medical School and Natividad Medical Center Family Practice Residency in Salinas, Calif. Dr. Cutler is a board-certified family physician with more than 20 years of experience. He serves as a medical liaison to alternative and traditional practicing physicians. His practice focuses on an integrative solution to health problems. Dr. Cutler is a sought-after speaker and lecturer on experiencing optimum health through natural medicines and founder and editor of Easy Health Options™ newsletter — a leading health advisory service on natural healing therapies and nutrients.

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  • Motov

    It is totally stupid that our politicians make mountains of paperwork for everyone.
    I think we could simplify that, by removing the bureaucrats from the equation.
    That is the number one problem with our government. They just keep getting bigger and bigger, intrude our lives more and more.
    Lately I’m witnessing more and more homeless people.
    I blame our crook in the white house, and his tax increases.
    We are fed up with their out of control spending, but they fail to get the message and then threaten to cut SS people. We want the stupid spending to end.
    Like foreign aid, cash for clunkers, Obozophones, Welfare for corporations, and other moronic ideas they come up with. We don’t need many alphabet agencies doing the same job. In fact we can do without them.
    We are fed up with their lies, corruption, violations of the bill of rights, propaganda from news. endless wars on problems that never gets fixed.
    Government’s solution to everything is throw more money at it.
    They set the example, and wonder why attitudes towards government is not good.
    Lead by example still exists, too bad the example shown is what is wrecking this nation.

    • Stephine

      Well you sound like someone who wants America to be what America was envisioned to be. I recall the reason America was first settled. The oppressed and persecuted were fleeing their dictatorship type governments to come to a land of freedom. Well there is no more new lands to flee to so I guess the next level will be revolution on the common mans part. I don’t think I wish to see that (perhaps a good ole meteor strike on DC when all the bozos are there) but the alternative is definitely not something I even want to consider a dictator state (I know it is already there).

      • NC

        Stephine, did I not read somewhere that a lot of our settlers were Christians fleeing religious persecution and that their persecutors were other forms of Christians???? Could that have been the reason that at a later time they demanded that THEIR Constitution contain a provision that NO religion, including Christianity, could be made by law to be “THE” religion of the PEOPLE??
        Has the “dictator state(?)” you KNOW(?) exists made you give up your religion, your vote, your right to travel, your right to speak your mind or any other right??? Bad dreams and paranoia can cause you to believe those things have been taken but those things can be treated! BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO LEAVE THIS PLACE AND THESE DEVOTEES FOR A FULL RECOVERY BECAUSE THEY SUFFER FROM THE SAME CONDITONS!

      • Motov

        Does this sound familiar?

        He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
        He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
        He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
        He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
        He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
        He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
        He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
        He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
        He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
        He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
        He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
        He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
        He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
        For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
        For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
        For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
        For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
        For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
        For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
        For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
        For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
        For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
        He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
        He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
        He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
        He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
        He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

        It should,.. It came from our Declaration of Independence!

    • MargaretJacobson

      That’s why the vast majority of immigrants( illegals) are coming here, the government is willing to give them welfare (at our expense ). Many years I read a statement , something lie this: there is a lot of money to be made in creating a nation . These is a lot of money to be made in the destruction of a nation. The same holds true today ? This mess has been years in the making. It has been a downward spiral for many years. This is what happens when the government gets into everybody’s business and pocket. Taxation without representation. In other words tyranny!

    • Bill

      Motov,
      Good comment. The public sector is like a cancer and that is how they grow it. Under the pretense of helping people, they take a dollar from you, skim 95% of it and give 5% to the ignorant masses

  • Harold Olsen

    A shortage of doctors is not unexpected. Shortly after the traitorous scumbags passed Obamacare, many doctors let it be known that they would no longer practice medicine. At a press conference, Obama was asked about this. Initially he said that wouldn’t happen. He later said that doctors who quit practicing medicine would face punishment. He did not define what that punishment would be. One of his Detention Centers perhaps?

    • Stephine

      Only if he can catch them. Most doctors that I know 2 years ago when this debacle presented itself moved most all their funds into private offshore accounts as they saw this as a major downfall back then. It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to know that everything the bureaucrats get their fingers in is a big boondoggle and cost 5x as much as it should. Yes lets start fining doctors because they quit their practice, now the government is going to start telling them when they can retire?

      • MargaretJacobson

        They are already doing this! Somewhere in obamacare it was stated each physician will be working for average 40 to 50 years !! The brightest (from my understanding) are joining concierge services. That is (from my understanding) a group where you pay a fee to ALWAYS HAVE ACCESS TO GROUP N A SUBSCRIPTION PLAN. Guaranteed. Reliable. No wait for any services. Supposedly a platinum care type of plan.

        • Stephine

          Well that is a good way to get all the bright intelligent doctors to defect to another country. Every country needs doctors and if you want the best be damn well sure you treat them good. I guess my doctor friends have it right move out now before it’s too late. It may already be too late.

          • FreedomFighter

            Its called “BRAIN DRAIN”, it works like this, corporations/countries In need of exceptional talent will pay for it, so…when government limits compensation’s, the talent moves to greener pastures. This causes a talent or “Brain Drain” from America to other countries.
            That’s why all the smart people came to America in the first place, they get rewarded well for being successful, unlike Socialism that punishes success.
            Laus DeoSemper FI

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Thus the need for border fences.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            This is the wrong site for you to be writing fiction.

          • Stephine

            Believe what you want. Fiction is thinking that this boondoggle will actually work and benefit the normal person.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            But how did you think having the American doctors leave this country would benefit them and us? In fact this would create bigger problems for them if their citizenship was revoked or prevented them from leaving and then had their state medical licenses pulled. Don’t think O would not pull something like that. If the American doctors leave this country, you leave the door wide open for more imports of foreign doctors and giving O and his handlers tighter reins over the Medical System.

          • Bill

            I think you are on to something, Stephine
            Medical tourism is becoming very popular and most of those clinics are run by American doctors.

        • Jim Read

          The platinum plans are the ones with the highest punitive TAX!

    • MargaretJacobson

      My doctor, less than 10 years of practice left the group office I attend. He graduated from university of Chicago and Yale university. He was a primary care physician and hospitalist. With a practice in York Pennsylvania and Baltimore. I think he still goes to the York Pennsylvania office. He left the Baltimore practice. He now works as a hospitalist. He has better hours, more pay, no malpractice insurance to pay. By the way,he was very well liked and was very pro obamacare advocate! I think a lot of the doctors will find themselves overwhelmed and paid less for their work. This will encourage the acceptance of a lower quality of medical students. The educational system of the USA is in shambles now ! Think ! These students must come from our nations schools and foreign colleges. These students (USA) are not the brightest in the world! We are in deep trouble.

      • Manuel Rosa

        Maggeret the problems seem to be accumulating don’t they?

    • vicki

      obama is reported to have said:
      ” He later said that doctors who quit practicing medicine would face punishment.”

      My question to obama.
      “Since you are not their master why do you think you can punish them?”

      • Warrior

        And the silly physicians actually thought they could compete with the lawyers.

        • Manuel Rosa

          they can, just wait till the lawyers get sick.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        If the doctors are still young enough they would still have to find other work. You have a good mind and I think you can think this through to it’s possible conclusions.

      • Manuel Rosa

        Obama is a damn terrorist, everything he is doing just terrorises people’s livewll before he was ever president I told my friends he was a terrorist and so far he has proven me correct.

    • Gib74

      Yup, work for zer0 or go to jail….

      America, land of the ‘free’?

      • Manuel Rosa

        FREE, MY ASS!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      State licensing would be denied. Medical Schools would weed out the applicants to Medical Schools that would have problems accepting total government control over Medicine. Medical Schools already have a higher ratio of female students and they do not or will not have a problem accepting Ocare.

  • WTS/JAY

    Doctors warn if they participate in Obamacare, they’ll go broke…

    One of the things I hear most from supporters of Obamacare (yes, they are still there) is that finally, millions of Americans who previously did not have health insurance will get coverage and have full access to the nation’s healthcare system.

    When I hear such pie-in-the-sky rhetoric, I often ask this question: “Okay, so who’s going to take care of all these millions of new patients?”

    I ask that because the law that is Obamacare throws tens of millions of new patients into a system that was already a teetering mess. Think what has happened to the pathetic website (Healthcare.gov), except on a much larger scale.

    Healthcare was an overburdened, overly regulated industry already; in most places, it already takes weeks to see your physician as it is. And Obamacare does not add a single healthcare provider to the system; it only imposes more requirements and makes more demands of it.

    So I ask – who’s going to take care of all these new patients?

    Well, the dilemma posed by that question is about to get worse, because all over the country, many doctors have said that they’ll quit – retire from medicine – because of Obamacare, some because they refuse to allow a bloated, massive, incompetent and inefficient federal government dictate patient-doctor relationships, and some because they just can’t afford the mandates, requirements, rules and regulations the law imposes.

    ‘Obamacare will send more patients than cut reimbursements’

    This fear and loathing was summarized in a recent report by The New York Post, which said that area doctors were “feeling queasy about Obamacare,” adding that “many won’t participate in the new national insurance program because they fear they’ll go broke.”

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/042701_Obamacare_doctors_pay_medical_industry.html#ixzz2j6IDkNjQ

  • WTS/JAY

    Feds push students to promote Obamacare to their families…

    The federal government has apparently allocated tens of millions of taxpayer dollars to train public school and college students in California how to indoctrinate their friends and family into accepting Obamacare, indicate shocking new reports.

    Federal funding to the tune of $43 million, in fact, is being used right now in California to train an army of student soldiers how to basically sell Obamacare to their loved ones under the guise of education and awareness outreach programs.

    As reported by CNSnews.com, roughly $37 million, or 86 percent, of this federal grant has been set aside specifically for so-called “outreach calls” and “adult-student class presentations,” both of which are designed to increase compliance with upcoming Obamacare mandates.

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/041506_Obamacare_institutionalization_public_schools.html#ixzz2j6JqfhDx

    • DavBow

      Also, in case you missed it, PROPAGANDA from the administration through media is now legal and being pursued.

    • Bill

      The youth are no longer educated, they are indoctrinated. What better source to perpetuate their lies

  • WTS/JAY

    Obamacare forces American workers into ‘part-time society’ as full-time jobs are slashed everywhere…

    What was sold to the American people as the greatest reform of the U.S. healthcare system in our history is turning out to be the biggest contributing factor destroying the greatest economy in the history of the planet.

    At a time when unemployment remains unacceptably high (7.6 percent in June, up from lows of 4-5 percent in 2004-2006), Obamacare is putting even more downward pressure on hiring, leaving American workers stuck in cycles of unemployment or underemployment.

    The “reform” law contains what is known as an “employer mandate” – it requires employers with 50 or more full-time employees to provide them with expensive health insurance coverage (and wasn’t the law supposed to reduce the cost of health insurance?). As a way to avoid having to incur this huge new expense, many employers are simply firing employees or reducing their work hours to part-time status.

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/041328_Obamacare_employer_mandate_part-time_society.html#ixzz2j6L5oxaa

    • DavBow

      My wife was cut from five days per week in her substitute teacher position to three because of the Obamacare requirements. The Obamacare employer mandate was postponed one year but that had no effect on the new work hours, which had already been initiated. Last Friday there were 56 (FIFTY SIX) classes in the school district with NO ADULT PRESENCE at all, and it is getting worse. Chaos, folks!

      • nc

        DAV, if memory serves me right we didn’t have these problems until “the slide toward massive job losses” started in bush’s administration! If we didn’t have to pay for bush’s two unfunded wars and priming the pump for bush’s recession Obamacare would be a drop in the bucket!!

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          So you’re against unprovoked overseas wars, NutCase?
          Do two wrongs make a right, NutCase?

        • DavBow

          nc, like all other liberals you are very confused. I was addressing the direct consequences of Obamacare, which of course didn’t exist during the Bush presidency, but you are willing to blame that on him as well? Obamacare would be a drop in the bucket? You haven’t seen anything yet, and come to think of it YOU may never see anything. Get a life!

    • Bill

      That was the plan, Stan

    • Manuel Rosa

      WTS/Jay
      Thats what i was talking about in my other message, Obama set up the program to recuce people into part time work so he can then holld out his hand and its like you put some corn in your hand and have a bunch of hungry chickens come and eat out of your hand. Lets not forget the poor leberals, they too will be eating out of Obama’s hand!

  • WTS/JAY

    Obamacare Website Outsourced Via Michelle…

    The obamacare.gov website disaster was not only outsourced to Canada, it was built by Michelle Obama’s former College Classmate’s Firm.

    In mid-October, the Washington Examiner reported that Federal Officials only considered one firm to build the epic fail now known as healthcare.gov.

    When that story broke, you had to suspect that someone probably had a kickback coming. Richard Pollock reported on October 13th:

    Federal officials considered only one firm to design the Obamacare health insurance exchange website that has performed abysmally since its Oct. 1 debut.

    Rather than open the contracting process to a competitive public solicitation with multiple bidders, officials in the Department of Health and Human Services’ Centers for Medicare and Medicaid accepted a sole bidder, CGI Federal, the U.S. subsidiary of a Canadian company with an uneven record of IT pricing and contract performance.

    CMS officials are tight-lipped about why CGI was chosen or how it happened.

    They also refuse to say if other firms competed with CGI, or if there was ever a public solicitation for building Healthcare.gov, the backbone of Obamacare’s problem-plagued web portal.

    Why was Canada’s CGI firm in Montreal chosen for the job and how did this happen? Is it because a certain First Lady had an inside track with that company? That surely has to be a coincidence, right?

    Wrong! A college classmate of Michelle Obama just happens to be a high ranking executive at CGI.

    First Lady Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate Toni Townes-Whitley is a top executive at the company that earned the contract to build the failed Obamacare website, according to report by The Daily Caller.

    Toni Townes-Whitley, Princeton class of ’85, is senior vice president at CGI Federal, which earned the no-bid contract to build the $678 million Obamacare enrollment website at Healthcare.gov. CGI Federal is the U.S. arm of a Canadian company…

    read more: http://helpfreetheearth.com/news925_obamacare.html

    • Jim Read

      That is what the story said and knowing B & M I believe it. When are the U S citizens going to WAKE UP, find the guts of our founding fathers and do something?

      • Nadzieja Batki

        I think you missed the point that humans are adaptable to most horrendous conditions to exist. Also take into account that human predators also adapt in their preying to exist.

      • Manuel Rosa

        Jim i know of a plan to straightning out wachington but I would need both the liberals and the conservatives, and you have to feel sorry for the liverals, they just been brain washed and got drunken with the democratic coolaid.

    • DavBow

      Don’t forget the Valerie Jarret family connection to CGI either. Too much smoke here for there not to be a fire, folks!

    • Bill

      They just kept the graft in the family

    • Manuel Rosa

      wts/jay that don’t mean jack, that just helps Obama to advance his cause which is to take complete controj of all americans and maie them government slaves, but he can kiss my ass I will die before I surrender to be their slave.

  • FreedomFighter

    That giant sucking sound you hear, along with all the screams of those effected is ObamaCare about to suck insane amounts of the private sector money into the government black hole. ObamaCare will ruin America, Its not about health care, its about power and control of you and your children.
    Laus DeoSemper FI

    • Warrior

      I think the “progressives” call it an “economy built to last”. “Dead Last”. Anyone else in for a race to the bottom?

      • Stephine

        gonna be a rough landing for many when they hit the bottom.

        • Manuel Rosa

          no stephine, its going to be the biggest disaster in all american history!

    • Stephine

      Only if we stay. Might be time to find a remote jungle area with a tribe that still has practicing witch doctors. At least in that society you don’t produce your out. And the witch doctor would be better at medicine than what will be left of US doctors when this bloated money sucking unaffordable act goes into full effect.

      • Manuel Rosa

        Yeah feedom fighter, you got it all right, I’m glad sombody sees the truth!

  • elmcqueen3

    If only 15% of the population are uninsured…Why didn’t Obama just pass an executive order insuring those who were unisured…They get free health care any way…No hospital can refuse someone because they don’t have insurance…It would have been a lot less confusing and costly…And the rest of us 85%er’s could have kept the insurance we had!

    • Jim Read

      You have missed the point. They don’t care about that 15% any more than they do the 85%, it is all about destroying the United States of America as she has been known for nearly 250 years. It is about power, Obama is hoping something happens so he can declare Marshall Law which would stop all elections and then he can stay in power as the dictator in chief he thinks he is now. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have worked along side him to accomplish this and are hoping they will still be part of his inner circle with prime seats at the round table with his other “knights”. They are in for a surprise also. The wake up call for the U S has already been made and it went unanswered, it may already be too late because there are not enough people with the guts to risk loosing everything so everyone is going to loose everything.

      • elmcqueen3

        okay…Point well taken!

      • NC

        Jim, you have made my day! I love it when you wingnuts make your wild statements about what Obama “plans” to do like cancelling elections and becoming a dictator , This has already been used for the 2012 elections and DIDN’T HAPPEN!!
        What risks have you taken to “lose everything” to save your nation from Obama??You are right about there not being enough people for your cause! Conservatives here pound their chests and say lets go to the streets to “save” our country but when the “call” comes there won’t be enough of them show up to have a fist fight much less a “take over”!!
        You do know that intelligent adult independents read you wild accusations and say “what the hell are those people thinking”????

        • Nadzieja Batki

          So you are privy to some special earful from O and his handlers as to what he plans to do or not to do. You also have a simple problem called connecting the dots as in taking an action (good or bad) and then seeing the intended and unintended consequences of that action and then making choices how to proceed.

        • elmcqueen3

          You are so correct…Our educational system has destroyed any hopes for future conservatism…We should be so happy…Spend…Borrow…Spend…Is the way to prosperity and the general well being of all for one…One for all…We need more people like NC…Not to worry any…As soon as any form of amnesty is granted…The liberals will have what they have always wanted…Absolute control…Absolutely!

          • Vis Fac

            As long as I have the will and the equipment to resist No one is going to control me !!!

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

        • Manuel Rosa

          NC what will be your next post if it happens?

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          NutCase calling somebody else a “wingnut” — Priceless.

        • Jim Read

          Lets see, you do make a good point about the 2012 elections,. the non Obama lovers did not use as much voter fraud as did the liberals, at least if you believe the reports from the Cleveland area and I am starting to believe you are correct in not being enough conservatives to answer the call but my statements about what Obama is planning is not as wild as you profess. You have blinders on and drink from the fountain of unconstitutional kool-aid flowing from the liberals. If you care to pay attention and will check the facts I can give you at least three actions taken by Obama in the last few months which are in direct contrast to the U S Constitution. Don’t forget the oath of office he took to protect the Constitution of the United States.

    • DavBow

      Under Obamacare the law requiring hospitals to treat indigent persons no longer exists, and in fact the Obama administration is now penalizing hospitals that do so. Many non profit charity hospitals will now be put out of business, because under Obamacare there is no such thing!

      • elmcqueen3

        I am schocked by this revelation!

      • Manuel Rosa

        this never was and is not about healthcare this has always been about the government controlling your life from the inside and the next thing is going to be government controll of the food supply, yep, its comming and who is going to stop them when all the people have been deceived into believing in their government as though it is GOD. yep, that what its all about!

        • Manuel Rosa

          and when the government has acquired complete controll over the food supply thats it, all america will become 350 million government slaves thats why they want to take the peole’s guns so bad cause as long as the people have their guns an all out revold would force the government to surrender our forefather envision that and thats why.they wrote the 2nd amendment in the constitution the way its written, you should try reading it for what it says and not what you want it to say. Got it yet?

    • Vis Fac

      It’s called PEOPLE CONTROL

      To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

      You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

    • Bill

      Elm
      That would be too simple and could be written on only one page. To make a working solution is not the agenda, that was only the line used to sell it

    • Manuel Rosa

      thats true but than the government couldn’t control your whole life, this is just perfect for the government, there is enough room for manipulation without and end.

      • elmcqueen3

        I read you on that one!

  • 4lifeandfreedom

    No surprise to common sense conservatives, for certain. What a scene at the doctors’ offices–will they post armed guards as they are planning to do at government buildings November 1 when the food stamp amount is reduced?
    John, Hillary, Lindsey, and others are in sync with the one who wants to destroy America and her people. Soros is contributing $20 million to defeat 10 specific Republican congressman if they do not succumb to the present immigration “reform.”

    • NC

      4life, do you have any idea how much the Koch brothers are paying out for a political agenda that only a minority of Americans favor??? Do you consider them as “wrong” as Soros???
      Do you think insurance is too high like a lot of Americans do? Do you think medical procedures costs are too high like a lot of Americans do? Do you think that drug costs are too high like a lot of Americans do?
      Exactly what is the Republican plan to control this problem? Exactly what is the Libertarian plan to control this problem? Just let it ride and let the free market that allowed the increases in the first place to continue to “allow” the rise in costs to the people?????
      You have a right to that opinion but the people need to know just who is trying to help them and who is not!!

      • Vigilant

        “Do you think insurance is too high like a lot of Americans do?”

        Have you succeeded in logging in to the Obamacare website? If and when you do, and you experience the sticker shock, you come back and we’ll have a nice little chat.

        • NC

          Vigilant, it is the “sticker shock” that Americans have faced in the last 15 or so years every time they received notice that their insurance had gone up AND WHEN THEY FIRST WANTED TO BUY INSURANCE AND COULDN’T BECAUSE OF THE STICKER SHOCK that cause the interest in REFORM and the passage of the ACA!
          “Continuing to do nothing” ,the philosophy of the Conservatives, will not cause the ALREADY PRESENT STICKER SHOCK TO GO AWAY!

          • Don 2

            In your little fantasy world nc, 2+2=3, but you’re not exempt from the ObamaCare math.

            http://eaglerising.com/2254/dave-ramsey-destroys-obamacare/

          • nc

            Don 2, neither are Americans excused from the free market math of rising medical costs! Got a solution?? Let the free market fix it?? What was I+1=2 in 2000 under the free market has become 3+3=6 in 2013 under the free market! What is the limit?? When you and your children are dead in the streets from untreated diseases passed on by others??
            A doctor told me just last week that the CDC says we may be in for the worst flu outbreak from a new stain we have ever seen! I hope you untreated Libertarians don’t infect the world!I If you take a flu shot you will have to turn in your PLD pass word! Maybe you eat some weeds recommended by the front office!

          • JeffH

            Free market math? You dumbazzes just refuse to distinguish and acknowledge the differences between “Crony Capitalism” and “Free Market Capitalism”.

            One more time for the members of the “Society of Useful Idiots”:

            Crony Capitalism:
            Crony capitalism is a term describing an economy in which success in business depends on close relationships between business people and government officials…(i.e. a crony partnership with governments help in deciding winners and losers)

            Free Market Capitalism:
            A system of economics that minimizes government intervention and maximizes the role of the market. According to the theory of the free market, rational economic actors acting in their own self interest deal with information and price goods and services the most efficiently which provides the most opportunities for both consumers and producers by creating more jobs and allowing competition to decide what businesses are successful.(through competition, the consumers ultimately effect who the winners and losers are)

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            For those readers who are as ignorant as NutCase but, unlike NutCase, would like to change that condition:
            http://www.scribd.com/doc/144210931/Wayne-Crews-Ten-Thousand-Commandments-An-Annual-Snapshot-of-the-Federal-Regulatory-State-2013

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Insurance and medical costs have gone up as a result of Government meddling in the economy, NutCase. But even so, there is a voluntary solution to the high costs — Don’t use their services.
            I wish we victims of Liberal Progressive meddling had a voluntary solution to Obamacare.

        • Bill

          NC is on medicare

          • Vis Fac

            NC is on DRUGS namely Lysergic acid diethylamide AKA LSD

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Your dislike of the Koch Brothers does not nullify the activities O and his handlers, nor the like of Soros.

      • Don 2

        Hillary Clinton supporter George Soros, a non-practicing Jew, born in Hungary as Gyorgy Schwartz, was a former NAZI collaborator who collaborated with the NAZI regime, assisting in the confiscation of his own peoples’ property. He was also the man responsible for breaking the bank of England.

        Fred Chase Koch, in a 1963 speech, warned of “a takeover of America in which Communists would infiltrate the highest offices of government in the U.S. until the president is a Communist, unknown to the rest of us.”

        Looks like Fred Chase Koch was correct.
        AGENDA: Grinding America Down
        http://vimeo.com/63749370

        • nc

          Don 2, “in a 1963 speech”??? Two generations ago?? Man was he on top of a current trend that didn’t happen!!!
          Beside we were told by Republicans that Reagan killed Communist influence 20 years LATER!
          So, is Obama going to turn us over to the Communist or to the Muslims who we armed to fight the communist?? You brilliant conservatives here need to make up your minds about exactly why you hate Obama! If you are NOT sure about either then “neither” could be right!!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            More argle-bargle from NutCase.
            Too much sugar in your baby-food, NutCase?

        • Bill

          Good comment, Don
          Don’t try to reason with NC, he thinks with his emotions and not his mind

          • Don 2

            You’re right Bill. I almost responded, but then realized the guy is nuts and brain dead, so why bother wasting my time.

        • Vis Fac

          You need to see this to get your facts strait !!!.

          http://vimeo.com/63749370
          Agenda Grinding America Down

          To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • Don 2

            What are you talking about?

          • Vis Fac

            If you had watched the video you would know. Since you obviously didn’t and therefore explaining it to you would be a exercise in futility.

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

        • http://www.rt.com Alondra

          Allen West explains his claim that there are 78-81 communist party members within the democrat party machine – (April 18, 2012) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA16ehk9ymk

      • jomiqutoall

        NC, do you know what it costs to run a medical practice? The US government under various administrations has already driven costs so high that providers either pass on the costs or leave practice. That is the reason for high insurance and procedure costs. Some MDs make a lot of money, some not. But as soon as they go to concierge coverage, the poor schmucks will get less care, and the providers to the poor will be PAs and RNs, not MDs. Really, take the time to do some real research to know what is going on. The problem has far more to do with government overreach than evil, greedy providers of medical services and insurance.

        • Vis Fac

          Not so much the Government but the trial lawyers with the government’s inaction (most politicians are trial lawyers) to curb excessive awards.

          My daughter spends more than a third of her compensation for malpractice insurance. Hospitals as well and everyone wonders why costs are so steep!!!

          To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • jomiqutoall

            I’m with you on that, Force Recon. The sad thing is this is a part of the regulatory scheme. The lawyers don’t want the gravy train to stop, so they don’t want any sort of tort reform. But other regulatory burdens that have been imposed on medical providers, those not related to the malpractice portion of the business, have also made the costs rise far above the inflation rate. God bless the men and women who make the sacrifices to become MDs, both general and specialized.

      • Vis Fac

        NUT CASE ~ WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS I ASKED TWO WEEKS AGO????????

        Why are you continually bringing up things that are irrelevant to the topic?? Do you need that much attention that you continually show us how much you don’t know??? I’ll bet your body is covered in Tattoos because you crave attention???

        We all know you are one of those liberal shills that depend on government for their subsistence. The elite socialists that are your handlers have told you that you will be getting a piece of the pie taken from others.

        Well I hate to be the bearer of bad news but yeswith socialism someone is going to get something but sadly that someone will NOT be you.

        Now back to the other issue NUT CASE, you are a FRAUD and a COWARD for not answering me sand therefore no credibility so back to the cesspool where you belong!!!!

        To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

      • Manuel Rosa

        Talk Talk Talk blut whio has any Idea how we gotten into this mess and it is a mess. This did not happen by accident, it was planned. The sourse is obvious, you screw up the laws frivulous law suites,millions of dollars insurance and healathcare skyrockets but just who the hell is behind it?

      • JeffH

        The “useful idiot” bleats once more….bahhhh, bahhhh, bahhh!

      • JeffH

        nc, the “useful idiot”…are you aware of Hillary’s attachement to Chicago’s Saul Alinsky, or his mentoring of Hillary Rodham, or that she wrote her Harvard thesis about the Alinsky model? Bill studied Alinsky as did Obama and most, if not all, of the Chicago “Political Crime Syndicate”…Daley, Axlerod, Valerie Jarret, Rahm Emmanuel, Bill Ayers, Cloward, Pivens et al
        http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2013/04/hillary-clintons-1969-thesis-on-saul.html

        • nc

          JeffH, so what?? Allegations about the Obama and Clinton associations have been floating around for years! They have lead to NO charges! They had decided NO elections! When are you and your 1% cronies here going to realize that Americans have voted for these people for years knowing of these allegations AND associations and the Clintons and Obama have WON EVERYTIME!
          You boneheads need to realize that Americans don’t give a black rat’s A$$ about this anymore.! The polls and elections indicate that Americans are tired of Conservatives trying to make issues out of every incident and association! You need to give America less lip and just one workable plan that is not out of the 18th century! Then and only then can you become relevant>

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Because you say so, NutCase?
            The charges are many. That they win elections is merely testimony to how effective the dumbing-down of America has been by self-serving Leaders and their Propagandists.
            NutCases like you will be singing their praises all the way to the bottom.
            NutCase says — “trying to make issues out of every incident and association!”.
            Every incident:
            http://maddmedic.wordpress.com/2013/10/23/obama-plugs-for-gun-control-in-wake-of-nevada-shooting/
            Every Association:
            “do you have any idea how much the Koch brothers are paying out for a political agenda that only a minority of Americans favor?” — NutCase.

          • JeffH

            nc says AND associations and the Clintons and Obama have WON EVERYTIME! ”

            They all owe their thanks to the ignorant and the membership of the “useful idiots” society…both of which you are a charter member.

            Jim “NC” Crow says “You boneheads need to realize that Americans don’t give a black rat’s A$$ about this anymore.!”
            You’re just a racist ya dumb asz!

            I repeat, They owe their thanks to the ignorant and the membership of the “useful idiots” society…both of which you are a charter member.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Right here, NutCase:
        http://mises.org/daily/3643
        Get you Ignorant Controlling Liberal Progressives out of our healthcare and other decisions.
        I love how numbnuts, like NutCase, meddle with our economy for 100 years and then blame the results on “Free Markets”. There is nothing Free about our Markets and that has been the case for over 100 years:
        http://mises.org/daily/5066

        • rbrooks

          i agree. abortions are none of your business. stay out of other folks business, comrade.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Non Sequitur, Flashman. I have said nothing about abortions.

          • rbrooks

            well, lately you have been rather quiet.

            btw- what was ever free about the market?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Before 1900, Government expenditures were less than 5% of the US GDP.
            Currently Government spends over 40% of our GDP.
            I would say 8 Times bigger Government results in much less Freedom.

          • WTS/JAY

            You mean, government-enforced monopoly, don’t you?

          • WTS/JAY

            You should offer that good advice to the current goon-administration, rbrooks, and apply an equal measure to yourself, cheerleader!

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Then you should as well. Why are you so eager to push for abortions? Are you are making money tissue harvesting?

  • pres68y

    Doctors only get 56% of what private insurers provide. My friends father is/was a neurosurgeon and always made more than a million a year (for decades). Heaven forbid he would have had to live on a measly 560,000/yr!
    (I wonder why out health costs are way too high?)

    • Gib74

      Yeah, I REALLY want to have a doctor who spent over a DECADE being trained who has LARGE student loans to pay off cutting on me when they’re getting paid the same to ask if I want fries with that when it’s over….

      • Warrior

        In about 10 years the libs will be calling for an increase in the “physician minimum wage”. Can’t wait.

        • Stephine

          The economy won’t make it 10 years. 5 tops with this unaffordable act.

          • Vis Fac

            We’ll be lucky to make it to 2016 that is unless the elections of 2014 makes a difference.

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Why can’t you wait?So you did want to sound like pres68y. Apparently you have the same problem as he with envy, greed, and malice. Since when are doctors and medical professionals your servants and slaves?

          • JeffH

            Nad, slow down and comprehend…ever hear of sarcasm?
            Think about it for a minute!

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Point taken. It may be sarcasm by Warrior but the possibility of his scenario happening is much too close.
            I am sorry about taking Warrior the wrong way.

      • Vis Fac

        Gib You really have no idea what the mindset of a physician is especially one with outstanding student loans. My youngest daughter is an Orthopedic Surgeon she puts in 20 plus hours a day The pay is the same as if she worked an 8 hour day. It’s called dedication. Those who enter medical school are soon aware that you don’t enter medicine to be a millionaire that might come later but you enter medicine because you want to help people.

        To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

    • Jim B

      So twisted are thee! You spend a lifetime learning a highly specialized skill, which few have the aptitude to achieve, and you blame that person for any prosperity they may incur from their hard work, and dedication to their profession. What next, have the government force Levi’s to give away free jeans, IBM free computers, MS free software, Bank’s free mortgages. How far down the socialist rabbit hole do you want to go… all the way to communism, dictatorship, back to the rule of the King! Please do us all a favor and keep you unintelligible thoughts and comments to yourself, China and Iran await you, please go!

      • Warrior

        Jim, “when” physicians have the “opportunity” to “unionize”, they will be “rewarded”. Well ok, they won’t actually be “physicians” but……..they will be “rewarded” and they will be eligible for “overtime”. Would you like this shot in your arm or your tookis? LMAO. FORWARD!

        • Nadzieja Batki

          I usually don’t have a problem understanding what you write. But what is this gibberish that your comment consists of? Do you really want to sound like pres68y?

        • Vis Fac

          OH GOD health care provided by the likes of the NEA? Lord help us.

          To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

      • independent thinker

        Guess I will just have to become good friends with my local vet. She is way smarter than any physician anyway.

        • Adolf Schmidt

          Now that you bring up vets, made me think of something I read. You can go to a pet store and but antibiotics in the meds for tropical fish. There are three types that I’ve seen, that are the same exact kind used for humans. Don’t care much for doctors and it might save some people a few bucks.

          • JeffH

            AS, that’s funny but true. I been taking an OTC medicine for my allergies for 40+ years. Cost is ~ $7+- per 100ct at the pharmacy…thru Amazon I’m getting the vet labled 1000ct with the exact same ingrediant for $11 delivered to my front door.
            Go figure!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      So it is nothing more than Envy, Greed, and Malice on your part that you are not the one making that kind of money. Not one of us stopped you from going to school and doing the same.

      • Vis Fac

        Opportunity is missed by most people because it is
        dressed in overalls and looks like work. Thomas Edison

        The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is
        too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it. Michelangelo

        To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

    • Stuart Shepherd

      He deserves MORE! How much more valuable to society and more knowledgeable and skilled is a neurosurgeon?! To think that Bill Clinton et. al. gets way more than that from his muslim “foundations” etc and being the ex- fellatio recipient in chief is disgusting. Not to mention the parasites in Washington- lobbyists, lawyers, etc etc who never did a damn productive day of work in their lives!

    • Don 2

      8-years of pre-medical and medical school
      8-years of residency
      countless hours of study
      huge accumulation of debt
      After all pres68y, it IS brain surgery.

      • Bill

        Good analogy, Don
        Pres’s statement is more so to perpetuate class warfare than to say anything positive.
        I guess he will be happy seeing a doctor that got their degree online

        • Don 2

          Obama is the biggest scam ever.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      The solution is simple, pres68y — Don’t use his services if you don’t like his charges.

  • Warrior

    And one of the highlights of the “unaffordable care act” is the provision that includes more funding towards “affirmative action”. A lower grade of care brought to you by a lower grade of provider. Can you say “comprehensive immigration”? Close enough. Excellent, you get an “A” for participation and now you’re in!

  • red neck

    Get it through your head…. obama-care is and was designed to destroy America from within…. Plain and simple folks…. When enough sheeple realize the truth behind obama then it may become possible to do something about him.

    • Manuel Rosa

      ok

  • rbrooks

    If you are on Medicaid or Medicare, or will be accepted into the Medicaid expansion, you may have a hard time seeing a doctor.<<

    lol. that has been going on for the past 15 + years. your complaint is that nothing will change. perhaps you should have been working to cure the problems. then we would not have been stuck with this marvelous plan.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      You are a typical Dem/Prog/Leftist, blaming the doctor for what you and your ideologues created. You also have reading comprehension problems, the doctor alluded to personal responsibility for your own health care as in take care of your body so you may not need to see a doctor.

      • red neck

        Nadzieja….
        You are arguing with an Alinskite….. Under Saul Alinsky rule for radicals obama is following the tactics of overwhelming the system until there is a complete failure…. This will give the government an opportunity to “save the day” as it were… rbrooks knows this as well and that is why he / she supports it….

        • Nadzieja Batki

          red neck, that I know very well.

    • Vis Fac

      Here you go again with your adolescent “LOL”. Do you make comment here just to see your name? You certainly have no clue to what you are yammering about. When are you going to answer the questions I asked you two eeks ago?? Since you are a FRAUD and a COWARD whatever you say has absolutely ZERO credence with anyone!!!

      To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

      You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

    • JeffH

      rbrooks, FYI, you’re correct in that there have always been doctors who would not accept Medicare or Medicaid…but with your statement, you’re just wallowing in your own feces.

      Let me make it very clear…now, with the ACA and their expansion of Medicaid and the $700 million+- hit to Medicare, which will be reducing reimbursements to doctors and hospitals for their services many, many doctors, clinics, medical facilities and hospitals are announcing that they will no longer be accepting new Medicare patients or accepting Medicaid or Medicare payments at all.

      This is what my doctor has relayed to me and this is the message I’ve personally heard when calling my doctors medical group facility to make or confirm appointments…especially in regards to Medicaid patient services.

      In many states, Medicaid, the program for low-income people, pays so little that many doctors refuse to accept Medicaid patients. This has become a more serious problem for 2014, when the new health law will greatly expand eligibility for Medicaid.

      All of the people that are under the “poverty level” that cannot afford to pay for their ACA coverage will end up on the Medicaid roll…which offers minimal benefits and payments to doctors, clinics and care facilities…which means, as an example, a ~$250,000+- hospital/doctor bill will be lucky to recoup ~$10,000 under Medicaid.

      The poorest of our population on Medicaid are even more vulnerable and dependant on both doctor and government. However, doctors should not expect their medical practices to become simply charities borne by them.

      This I do know is a fact.

      • rbrooks

        there has been an increasing number of dr’s. who refuse both medicare and medicaid. long before this plan was passed.

        if we had fixed those problems, and the problem of the uninsured, this bill would never have been mandated.

        the fact that so many of you have support mandated insurance in the past, makes it difficult for you to whine about another mandate.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Case study in lack of logic:
          “the fact that so many of you have support mandated insurance in the past, makes it difficult for you to whine about another mandate”.

          Put down that doobie, Flashman.

          • rbrooks

            try again. many of you support mandatory insurance. as well as many of the current restrictions and/or exemptions to various amendments.

            you only whine when any of that finally includes you.

            in the case of insurance, you are going to have start paying, instead of continuing to leech off the rest of us.

            your lack of logic, your lack of any understanding of logic, is obvious.

          • WTS/JAY

            Yes rbrooks, your lack of logic, your lack of understanding of logic is, rather obvious! Good to see you are developing some introspection. That’s a good lad!

          • rbrooks

            so how is that sheehan story going????

          • WTS/JAY

            So how is that Obama-dream that has turned into a nightmare going? LOL!!!

          • rbrooks

            the only ones that dream about obama are you tea party idiots.

            did you get an interview with sheehan yet?

          • WTS/JAY

            I heard Obamacare won’t cover your visits to your shrink, rbrooks, nor will it cover the cost of medication(s) to keep you stable…i for one don’t think that is very fair!

          • rbrooks

            did you hear that from sheehan?

          • WTS/JAY

            No, you told me that one, don’t you remember?

          • rbrooks

            i did tell you sheehan was a liar. but, you still believe.

            don’t you remember?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Rbrooks, Flasman, or whatever your name is, be advised, the vast majority of people in Elkhart do not want this thing and want the government to scale back on how much they spend a year on these unconstitutional social programs. There are still some people that believe in you earning your keep, just like our Christian founding fathers believed. Here is a video that shows kids showing their patriotism on the playground.

            http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/10/military-kids-show-respect-marine-corps-flag-playground/

            I’ll bet you never do that rbrooks. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

            .”There are no atheists in fox holes.”

            Samurai

          • WTS/JAY

            We tried to warn you about Obamy, rbrooks, but you would have none of it, and now look at you, all dressed up and nowhere to go. LOL!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You are pulling facts out of your butt, Flashman. The question is — How do you get them past your head?

            rbrooks (aka Flashman) says — “in the case of insurance, you are going to have start paying, instead of continuing to leech off the rest of us”.
            First the Liberal Progressives Force medical providers to care for people who can’t or won’t pay. Then they Force the rest of us to pay the bill. Then when we object to paying for their gift which we are Forced to pay for, they complain that we haven’t got a right to object to their plan because we would be “leeching” off them.

            Keep this in mind, Folks, the next time the Liberal Progressives try to talk you into one of their Grand “compassionate” schemes.

          • rbrooks

            the unoriginal incredibly stupid comrade dave, also known as a multitude of id’s, says he doesn’t understand, can not comprehend and it is all the fault of someone else.

            you would make a great politician. you and jay could run as a team.

            how is that vote gathering going. got enough to take over yet? lol.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            More nonsense from the multi-personality whack-job known as Flashman.

          • WTS/JAY

            As well as that “bottle”, Flashman.

  • Chester

    Not a thing in this that is NEW. Still the same old problem of not enough doctors to go around. That was the reason we had such an influx of foreign doctors in the seventies and eighties, and could well be the driving force for another rush of foreign born and trained medical specialists.

    • red neck

      Boy… That sure is something to look forward too…. Rusty saw blades, herbal potions, voo-doo and chants from foreigners that you cannot understand….. I don’t know about you but I can’t hardly wait….

      • Chester

        Unless you have been with the same practice forever, more than likely you have already BEEN treated by someone other than an an American born and trained physician. Most hospitals rely on them, and many community clinics couldn’t function without them.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          So why aren’t you on the sites that tout the wonders of foreign born medicos.
          Actually the hospitals could function very well without them.

          • Chester

            The only function a LOT of hospitals could perform without their foreign born docs would be to close their doors, as they would have NO medical staff to call on. A number of hospitals in my area have NO native born doctors in their cardiac units, and the same is true of several of the other units as well. Most ERs have a decent mix, but again, there are a LOT of foreign born docs there, too.

      • Karolyn

        Don ‘t knock herbal potions. They’ve been in use for 1000s of years, and the Chinese are at the forefront in their usage.
        And are you saying that the only good doctor is an American doctor? Not true at all.

        • JeffH

          I agree K. I’ve been taking more natural supplements since I started learning about them from others here at PLD. A couple of years ago my blood sugar was very high and the doctor was concerned about me ending up with diabetes. He wanted to start me on some prescriptions to help lower the the sugar levels. I did some research, found that Cinnamon Extract was a great resource and today my sugar levels are normal.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            The best that anybody can do is to stay away from processed foods and all their chemical additives, especially sugar.

          • JeffH

            That I have done also, but as for sugar, I was never a big sweets eater and had stopped drinking sweetened sodas long ago. I was diagnosed with a thyroid hormone deficiency back in ’08 but had probably suffered it’s effects far longer. Under control now.

          • Karolyn

            I have a friend who was put on statins for her cholesterol even though it was not that high. She started but had side effects and decided to go natural. Her last labs were great, and her doctor was shocked. I was fortunate when I was diagnosed with HepC 12 years ago to be going to a teaching practice that had lots of residents. The newer doctors are more educated about natural methods and more accepting of their use. I have a great doctor now who is also very open about treatment.
            It amazes me when I go to the doctor and see all these people with plastic bags full of medications that they are on. Sadly, most people think that getting their money’s worth out of a doctor visit is leaving with a prescription. And Big Pharma’s advertising doesn’t help. If they spent less money on advertising and more on research, we might get somewhere. Actually, if they recognized the value in natural medicine, they could still make money, but then they might actually be curing people, which would lead to less patients and less profit.

          • Bob666

            Yo Karolyn,

            Been taking Red-Yeast-Rice for six years after my doctor said my cholesterol was higher than normal. It is a natural statin used in Asia for hundreds of years as a spice. My cholesterol dropped 26 points in six weeks.

            I’m consistently 160-180 which is not bad for a guy soon to be 72 who eats red meat four to five nights a week. A mild blood pressure medication is the only thing that I take made by Big Pham.

            There are almost always natural compounds that works well and can do the same job with less negative side affects and a lower cost

          • Karolyn

            Amen! And you can find many things to deal with that blood pressure too, the cheapest of which is meditation.

          • Bob666

            Well Karolyn,
            Meditation might for some, But I’m a type A++ with a fifteen year old daughter.

      • fahkir1

        Nothing wrong with herbal potions.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Do you know where the ingredients are coming from?

          • Bob666

            Yo Don,
            That is the problem with herbal supplements-that is why I purchase from very reputable brands, but even they have had problems with bad ingredients?

          • Bob666

            Yo Don,
            That is the problem with herbal supplements-that is why I purchase from very reputable brands, but even they have had problems with bad ingredients?

          • fahkir1

            Try growing them yourself. It’s not that hard to do.

          • Bob666

            Fah.
            Never thought about doing that. I have a green house, but I have to believe there is some knowledge that is required after you harvest?

          • fahkir1

            Not that much, really. DO a little research on the web or buy a book. You can get some good information from many sources.

          • Motov

            I’m for Herb, (weedies) I find it cuts my pill consumption in half.

          • fahkir1

            Yes. I grow most myself and there are some honest people in the world. As a 2 time cancer survivor, I don’t think I would be alive if it weren’t for the herbs that I take daily. They really helped me thru chemo.

  • Squeaky

    The government knows Obama care will fail, their goal is to then say, “We are the Government and we are here to help”, they will then take over the entire medical care in the US and implement the single pay/care plan they wanted all along. The government will then control 17% of the economy and all of you health care will be controlled by the IRS. What a lovely picture.
    Wake up and get rid of this Obamanation before it’s to late.

    • red neck

      It is capitalism that they HATE…..
      They have to destroy capitalism in order to roll in statehood….
      That is what this is about….. Rules for radicals by Saul Alinsky, obama’s mentor…..

      • Karolyn

        How can they hate capitalism when they are in the pockets of the big corporations?

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Because, Karolyn, Crony Capitalism (despite the name) is not really Capitalism.
          Take the time to read this book to understand better what Capitalism really is:
          http://library.mises.org/books/Kel%20Kelly/The%20Case%20for%20Legalizing%20Capitalism.pdf

          • Karolyn

            I knew when I posted this that you would have this response, Dave, and I do understand. Sometimes I don’t think things through before posting.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I understand what you are saying Karolyn, for we all have those moments. I agree with taking care of ourselves. No problem there. Here is an article that describes how your home is termed a hospital under Obama bin Laden Care.

            http://www.csnnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/under-obamacare-your-homes-hospital-your-doctors-team

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

            “I earnestly pray that the Omnipotent Being who has not deserted the cause of America in the hour of its extremist hazard, will never yield so fair a heritage of freedom a prey to ‘Anarchy’ or ‘Despotism.'”

            George Washington

        • Adolf Schmidt

          Same way as the poor hate the rich, but rely on them paying taxes for entitlements.

    • Vis Fac

      The most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help. – Ronald Reagan

      To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

      You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

    • fahkir1

      “We are the Government and we are here to help”,

      That’s the last thing I want to hear.

    • Robert Messmer

      Actually by then there will probably be so few doctors left, there won’t be any need for a single payer system.

  • Vis Fac

    Dr. Cutler is correct. The onus for your continued health is on all of us. Fortunately we have a way that at least minimizes the need for medical help. We all know that the introduction of unnatural substances to the body can lead to health risks. This includes what we eat fortunately for me I know exactly what I eat as I raise my own meat and grow my own vegetables. I never eat processed foods and don’t eat at restaurants. I have no problem with exercise as performing daily chores helps me stay fit.

    To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

    You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

    Libertas inaestimabilis res est
    Semper-Fi

  • Karolyn

    First sentence in this piece is key. Take care of your body, and you won’t need doctors; but just as important is mental attitude. You really can think yourself sick, as well as think yourself well. The mind has an incredible effect on the health of the body.

    • Patty

      And how are we supposed to do that with all the GMOs in our food that isn’t labeled GMO ?

      • Karolyn

        Hopefully, with all the public outcry over the past year, this will change. There actually is a lot more to worry about than GMOs. We all just do our best. At least I don’t eat preservatives and other additives. That says something. I also do not believe in being so paranoid about germs. The American people are brainwashed into being too clean. Since I cleaned up my diet 12 years ago, I have been more healthy, not even getting my yearly cold.

  • fahkir1

    If it doesn’t make it harder, which I am positive it will, it will surely make it more expensive. I am losing my RA specialist at the end of the year. He told me it’s just not cost effective to stay in practice any longer. Thanks obuthead.

  • WTS/JAY

    Obama’s Abortion Pill Mandate is Currently Losing in Court 32-5…

    According to Alliance Defending Freedom, the Obama HHS mandate is currently losing 32-5 in federal courts from all of the lawsuits ADF and other pro-life legal groups have brought.

    “The Obama administration’s abortion pill mandate forces employers, regardless of their religious or moral convictions, to provide insurance coverage for abortion-inducing drugs, sterilization, and contraception under threat of heavy penalties by the Internal Revenue Service and other federal agencies if the mandate’s requirements aren’t met,” ADF says.

    Below is a rundown of some of the victories, click the links for more details about the particular case…

    http://www.lifenews.com/2013/10/24/obamas-abortion-pill-mandate-is-currently-losing-in-court-32-5/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+delicious%2Fgqlf+%28Christian+Headlines+Top+Headlines%29

    • rbrooks

      so much for that freedom you constantly blow about.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        More logical fallacy from Flashman.

        • rbrooks

          @sammy

          you prefer to kill the new born. to sell them into slavery. to give themto the religious leaders that they may abuse and molest them. i prefer to not pay for your desire to father numerous whelps that you refuse to care for.

          don’tyou have a boat to catch. back to that country you fled from. was it a lack of love for your country or a lack of belief in your god that lead you to the cowardly betrayal of your country.

          you obviously can never be a patriot. as you lack the moral fortitude of your factitious convictions.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            No, I prefer to have them live, but you believe in killing them before they draw their first breath. What slavery are you talking about? If a child is born into a home where the mother cannot afford to support her child, or doesn’t want it, then give the child over to be adopted. There are many loving families that would adopt a baby. The rest of the first part of your statement is what the libturds and progturds want. Religious leaders? Sorry dude, but I’m not Muslim. The rest of your post is argument to ridicule and personal attacks. FYI, I was born in this country of 2 parents that are American citizens, a natural born citizen. How about you? Did your parents sneak across our southern border at night, as not to be shot by the border patrol agents? The right to life is a right given to us by God (as is stated in the Declaration of Independence), so where do you get off accusing me of being unpatriotic, when you believe in the libturd/progturd meathod of abortion on demand? You said you were in Canada before, so just stay up there as we do not need you here. Here is an article about the only fix we can give Obama bin Laden Care is to repeal it.

            http://www.humanevents.com/2013/10/28/no-delay-gop-let-the-dems-hang-themselves/

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

            “…to thee, as quickly as I may, I speed; for thou alone canst heal me; I take refuge under Thy protection.”

            Saint Ambrose

          • rbrooks

            it is amusing that you continue to resort to lies. i have never said i was in canada. i have stated i am a member of sars. an organization that you are unable to join.

            you have stated that you fled from your last country to come here. not very patriotic of you.

            that asain country you fled from does believe in killing the new born and selling unwanted children into slavery.

            you do not have religious leaders in your particular brand of mythology?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            First, I’m a natural born citizen, so stop lying about me coming from Asia. Second, you posted that you were living in Canada, so stop lying. Third, the Sons of the American Revolution makes you no more patriotic than anyone else. I could join, but I wish not to. What country is that? I assume you are talking about the U.S.A.? My religious beliefs is in the one true God, the Lord our God, and his Son Jesus. Unlike you who has nothing. Be looking forward to fire and brimstone when you die. What proof and evidence can you provide that show atheism to be accurate and correct? Ooops! There is none. Now knock it off and go home. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

          • rbrooks

            you can not show any proof that i ever posted i was living in canada.

            you can not join sars. you do not meet the criteria.

            your religious beliefs are nothing more than your beliefs.

            why did you flee from your last country?

            keep up the good work. you continue to supply the democrats with new voters.

          • Robert Messmer

            I can not personally say that I have ever seen a post by rbrooks where he has said, as you claim, that he believes ” in killing them before they draw their first breath.” What I have seen in his posts is a support for what is a) a legal, medical procedure and b) the individual choice of the lady which is only between her, her doctor and her god. As Libertarians who support and believe in the tenet of self responsibility and little to no government interference in our lives, how can we possibly argue against the individual’s right to control her life and her body the way she wants to.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Robert Messmer,

            You write: “As Libertarians who support and believe in the tenet of self responsibility and little to no government interference in our lives, how can we possibly argue against the individual’s right to control her life and her body the way she wants to.” Here is as cogent an explanation as I have ever seen. http://files.meetup.com/504095/Ron%20Paul-Abortion%20and%20Liberty.pdf

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • rbrooks

            you simply chose an explanation that mirrors your own beliefs. nothing conclusive is drawn from this. other than the stereotypical answers given to support ending abortion.

            arguments supporting abortion show more logic and rationale than what you presented.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear rbrooks,

            You write: “you simply chose an explanation that mirrors your own beliefs.” And your point is?

            You write: “arguments supporting abortion show more logic and rationale than what you presented.” Only in your demented mind.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • rbrooks

            you write. Here is as cogent an explanation as I have ever seen.

            Only in your demented mind.

            i bet you are a wishing you could drum up a little more support, eh bob.

          • Motov

            So, you are for stripping a God given right to life. of an unborn baby.
            Wouldn’t it be better to tie the woman’s tubes, if she is proven unable to say “no” to men’s reproductive organs?

            I wonder if you think it is not ok to terminate the lives of depraved people who commit heinous crimes?
            Of course after being convicted in court.

            The difference between the two is a simple matter of responsibility. Since the woman is not willing to care for her kid(s), and expects us to pay, thus not being responsible,.. We as tax payers demand she doesn’t add to our burden.

            The murderer, deprived the right to life to someone else,
            And he should be denied of his.

          • Motov

            So, you are for stripping a God given right to life. of an unborn baby.
            Wouldn’t it be better to tie the woman’s tubes, if she is proven unable to say “no” to men’s reproductive organs?

            I wonder if you think it is not ok to terminate the lives of depraved people who commit heinous crimes?
            Of course after being convicted in court.

            The difference between the two is a simple matter of responsibility. Since the woman is not willing to care for her kid(s), and expects us to pay, thus not being responsible,.. We as tax payers demand she doesn’t add to our burden.

            The murderer, deprived the right to life to someone else,
            And he should be denied of his.

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            Motov, he can’t reason with the frozen brain.

          • Motov

            Oh? My brain is ceasing dopamine production, and yet it understands the concept of being responsible for your actions

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            Motov, I referred not to your bright brain, but to rbrooks’ frozen brain.
            Tomorrow I give you the recipe of two drinks. Now I am too sleepy. Good night, dear.

          • Motov

            Yes, I understood. I guess deceived brains do freeze up when confronted with logic.

          • rbrooks

            that certainly explains your and alondra’s problem.

          • rbrooks

            that certainly explains your and alondra’s problem.

          • rbrooks

            which god(s) were you referring to? you are willing to strip rights way from the majority of the population under the guise of your religion.

            vasectomy’s would be equally effective. since men have been proven to be unwilling to say no.

            the only problem with the death sentence is it is not used often enough.

            you want the right to create children with none of the responsibility. abortion is a responsible choice.

            you give the typical amusing response of the small govt religious fascists theory.

          • Motov

            The “God” as referred to in the Declaration of Independence, (I have no religion)
            I tend to agree with the vasectomy comment.
            The problem with the death sentence is both the cost and how long they take in executing. Especially with open and shut cases.
            I want responsible child rearing, I dislike watching a single “mom” with 15 children complaining about how welfare is mistreating her. (Her tubes should have been tied after her second) but I disagree, abortion is murder.

            Most importantly I desire to see many governmental agencies to no longer exist, Like 90% of the alphabet groups
            Simplify the tax codes. no more special exemptions.

          • rbrooks

            so you disregard all of the other gods?
            the problem with the death sentence is the court system. we should still hold public executions.

            responsible child rearing includes the father.
            you are entitled to your opinion on abortion. forcing that opinion on others is a bit different.
            a flat tax has always been a solution. the wealthy and large corporations are against it.
            everyone claims to want smaller govt. yet they argue over the loss of their particular favorite part of govt.
            we could start with the elimination of dea. save billions of dollars every month.

            you want to incur the cost of criminalizing abortion. would you include all other forms of birth control as well?

          • Motov

            What other gods?
            I agree that fathers should be in their children’s lives.
            How do you feel for under aged “women” getting an abortion on demand?
            All other medical procedures require parental consent.
            Why is it this one different? And, should the procedure get botched, causing death, who will be responsible?

          • rbrooks

            you seem to be oblivious to the majority of the world and world history. there are many gods and goddess. allegedly.

            what is under age? age is a rather fluid and ambiguous term in this country. we prosecute13 year olds as adults.
            we used to draft ‘under age of majority’ children.
            fathers should be in their lives? since so many are not, what is your solution. blame the women has been the required reply of men for a long time.

            you mean the dr is not responsible?

          • Robert Messmer

            The other problem with the death sentence, now with DNA testing available, is it is not used quick enough. Makes no sense to put someone on Death Row and then wait for them to die a natural death from old age. Somewhere closer to Iraq’s way, after an unsuccessful appeal, 30 days later you have another cell available.

          • rbrooks

            ‘citizen x’ has the best solution.

          • Robert Messmer

            Since it takes two to tango, the male involved who fails to utilize all appropriate preventive measures should be castrated or at least sterilized. While a woman can only reproduce once every 9 months or so, a man can get multiple women pregnent at the same time.

          • Motov

            True, I think rapists should get this, Since they seem to think with their “other head”.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Does your nonsense ever end, rbrooks aka Flashman?

      • WTS/JAY

        Obamacare has created more IRS jobs than has hired Doctors. So how will having more IRS agents than doctors keep you healthy, rbrooks? LOL!!!

      • Robert Messmer

        Don’t follow your reasoning since the lawsuits are to preserve and protect the freedoms of the citizens against the tyranny of the government.

  • WTS/JAY

    Obama admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance…

    President Obama repeatedly assured Americans that after the Affordable Care Act became law, people who liked their health insurance would be able to keep it. But millions of Americans are getting or are about to get cancellation letters for their health insurance under Obamacare, say experts, and the Obama administration has known that for at least three years.

    Four sources deeply involved in the Affordable Care Act tell NBC NEWS that 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million consumers who buy their insurance individually can expect to receive a “cancellation” letter or the equivalent over the next year because their existing policies don’t meet the standards mandated by the new health care law.

    One expert predicts that number could reach as high as 80 percent. And all say that many of those forced to buy pricier new policies will experience “sticker shock.”

    None of this should come as a shock to the Obama administration. The law states that policies in effect as of March 23, 2010 will be “grandfathered,” meaning consumers can keep those policies even though they don’t meet requirements of the new health care law. But the Department of Health and Human Services then wrote regulations that narrowed that provision, by saying that if any part of a policy was significantly changed since that date — the deductible, co-pay, or benefits, for example — the policy would not be grandfathered…

    read more: http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/28/21213547-obama-admin-knew-millions-could-not-keep-their-health-insurance?lite

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      True that! True that! Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! What else does Obama bin Laden Care infringe on us? Does it infringe on our God-given rights, as were written in the Constitution by our Christian founding fathers? Here is an article showing how it may infringe our our God-given right to own a firearm. Violates our God-given rights under the 2nd Amendment.

      http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/10/obamacare-anti-second-amendment-government-harassment-tool/

      We all know that the libturds and progturds don’t want us to bear arms, for it would be easier for them to control us. I’ll keep mine within arms reach. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

      “I am sure that never was a people, who had more reason to acknowledge a Divine interposition in their affairs, than those of the United States; and I should be pained to believe that they have forgotten that agency, which was so often manifested during our Revolution, or that they failed to consider the omnipotence of that God who is alone able to protect them.”

      George Washington

    • Motov

      Who has time to read a thousand pages of gobblety-gook?
      And understand what this liquid crap will do to your wealth?

  • http://www.rt.com Alondra

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    Dr. Burzynski was slanderrd and prosecuted by FDA and the Texas Medical Board and falsely charged. The Texas Medical Board’s case against him was dismissed on November 19, 2012. A MUST Watch both videos. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/01/19/cancer-doctor-burzynski.aspx

    Why they fight him if he VERY SUCCESSFULLY CURES people’s cancer?
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    in the Department of Radiation Oncology and Research Unit, Dr. Negrín Hospital, Las Palmas, Canary Islands, Spain.

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  • http://www.rt.com Alondra

    Dear People,
    I would like to provide you with information I researched for my two Friends in different times about cancer treatments. We never know what/who is waiting for us or our loved ones around the corner.

    I lay the results of my findings in the order of my preference:

    1) The Burzynski Clinichttp://www.burzynskiclinic.com/
    Dr. Burzynski, M.D., Ph.D., internationally recognized physician and
    biochemist-researcher, who pioneered the development and use of biologically active peptides in diagnosing, preventing and treating cancer. He believes that every patient requires a UNIQUE treatment plan. The Burzynski Clinic designs
    treatment around the patient’s specific needs.

    Dr. Burzynski was slanderrd and prosecuted by FDA and the Texas Medical Board and falsely charged. The Texas Medical Board’s case against him was dismissed on November 19, 2012. A MUST Watch both videos. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/01/19/cancer-doctor-burzynski.aspx

    Oncologists from around the world come to the Burzynski Clinic to study Dr. Burzynski’s cancer treatments. But the Texas Medical Board wonted to disbar and put to jail Dr. Burzynski.

    Why they fight him if he VERY SUCCESSFULLY CURES people’s cancer?
    Because the Cancer is $200 Billion Industry.

    Burzynski Documentary Film Series (1:48:00) – A MUST watch:
    http://www.burzynskimovie.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=136:part-ii&catid=39:short-news-updates-front-page-photo&Itemid=102

    Burzynski Clinic address:
    9432 Katy Freeway
    Houston, Texas 77055
    Phone: (713) 335-5697

    • http://www.rt.com Alondra

      Part 3
      3) Gerson Treatmenthttp://gersontreatment.com/
      Founder – http://gersontreatment.com/our-founder/
      Contact – http://gersontreatment.com/contact/

      If you would like to contact with any questions regarding the Gerson Therapy or you would like further information on upcoming lecture presentation, please contact by email info@gersontreatment.com or telephone at:
      USA Ph. 715.299.5070
      Mex ph. 011 52 661 100-6907 (6912)

      Dr. Patrick Vickers of Northern Baja Gerson Center answers questions:

      Also check links in the description.
      I wish no one would need this information, but keep it just in case. It may save you time for the research.

      Stay healthy, dear People.

    • http://www.rt.com Alondra

      Part 3
      3) Gerson Treatmenthttp://gersontreatment.com/
      Founder – http://gersontreatment.com/our-founder/
      Contact – http://gersontreatment.com/contact/

      If you would like to contact with any questions regarding the Gerson Therapy or you would like further information on upcoming lecture presentation, please contact by email info@gersontreatment.com
      or telephone at:
      USA Ph. 715.299.5070
      Mex ph. 011 52 661 100-6907 (6912)

      Dr. Patrick Vickers of Northern Baja Gerson Center answers questions:

      Also check links in the description.

      I wish no one would need this information, but keep it just in case. It may save you time for the research.

      Please Stay healthy, dear People.

    • http://www.rt.com Alondra

      Part 2
      2) Oasis of Hope cancer treatment centerhttp://www.oasisofhope.com/

      Dr. Francisco Contreras, MD., an integrative surgical oncologist of thirty years. He is the owner and director of the Oasis of Hope cancer centers in Mexico and the USA. In his centers they are using OZONE Therapy, which was researched and studied in the Department of Radiation Oncology and Research Unit, Dr. Negrín Hospital, Las Palmas, Canary Islands, Spain.

      Report of three Malignant brain tumors cases:
      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11795721

      OZONE Therapy is VERY SUCCESSFULLY used in Oncology in Europe from 2005, and yet American Medical Asso still not using OZONE Therapy that is much better and harmless than radiation.

      Why? Because the Cancer is $200 Billion Industry.

      Please listen the interview with Dr. Francisco Contreras, MD.
      http://www.moodyradio.org/radioplayer.aspx?episode=121154&hour=2
      In this interview he speaks about successful alternative cancer treatments and the OZONE Therapy (@13:40 – 16:40), and how the emotional well been is important in the process of healing.

      And order his new book 50 Critical Cancer Answers: Your Personal Battle Plan for Beating Cancer, Paperback at http://www.amazon.com/50-Critical-Cancer-Answers-Personal/dp/1780781075

      Daniel E. Kennedy and Dr. Francisco Contreras of the Oasis of Hope cancer centers advising practical steps and prescriptive measures for fighting cancer.

      My friend ordered for her brother. She says it’s very helpful.

      You may receive a PERSONALIZED TREATMENT PLAN designed by Dr. Contreras in 48 hours at NO COST (!) by calling at (888) 500-4673

    • Motov

      2 words for cancer,… Cesium Chloride,
      I sure wish my mother tried this before she did chemo,
      I know chemo killed her.

      • Motov

        In order for cancer cells to survive and reproduce they have to maintain a high acidic pH. Cesium chloride is a powerful natural mineral that has the ability to penetrate the cancer cell and rapidly change its acidic pH to an alkaline pH of about 8. This destroys the enzyme systems of the cancer cell and does not allow it to reproduce or survive for long. This powerful high pH therapy has had astounding successes with even progressed stage IV cancers. – See more at: http://www.utopiawellness.com/services/cesium-chloride/?gclid=CNXEx9eBvroCFU8V7Aod9VUAgQ#sthash.8vb4eXuw.dpuf

      • http://www.rt.com Alondra

        Dear Motov,
        Yesterday I promised to give you recipes of two beneficial drinks.

        1) Make fresh Juice from 2 small* beets, about 2.5″ in diameter + 2 medium carrots + 1 Granny Smith apple. Drink it fresh at morning on the empty stomach.
        ***Small beets are better for the juice because they are younger. And the bigger beet is bitter.

        Beets are a UNIQUE source of phytonutrients called betalains. Betanin and vulgaxanthin are the two best-studied betalains from beets, and both have been shown to provide:

        a) ANTIOXIDANT (antioxidants are chemicals that interact with and neutralize free radicals, thus preventing them from causing cells damage)

        b) DETOXIFICATION support. Beet cleanses your liver (detoxification action), and liver cleanses your blood.

        c) PREVENTION and TREATMENT of certain cancer types

        In recent lab studies (in America, because in the USSR we knew it for the long time) on human TUMOR cells, betanin pigments from
        beets have been shown to LESSEN TUMOR CELL GROWTH through a number of mechanisms, including inhibition of pro-inflammatory enzymes, specifically, cyclooxygenase enzymes (cyclooxygenase-2 or simply COX-2, is an enzyme that in humans is encoded by the PTGS2 gene). The tumor cell types tested in these studies include tumor cells from COLON, STOMACH, NERVE, LUNG, BREAST, PROSTATE and TESTICULAR tissue. The results of these studies revealed that betanins and other betalains in BEETS are very effective in the both: PREVENTION and TREATMENT of certain cancer types.

        d) Betanins and betalains are increasing IMMUNE SYSTEM which is very weakened by the drugs.

        e) ANTI-INFLAMMATORY effects.

        2) The second drink is to protect your stomach from the poisonous drugs:
        1 table spoon of oatmeal + 1 banana + 1 tea spoon honey + 300gr milk = blend and drink on empty stomach.
        @2:25 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH9EALlD8rc#t=2m25s

        Cheers and please stay healthy.

  • alboy5

    Of course Obozo and his Obozocrats can ignore Obozo’s mandate, but Obozo wants to impose death and tyranny on everyone else. This is freakin unconstitutional and inhumane.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Well said and keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! The program is unconstitutional, but a RINO justice sided with the libturds and progturds and disregarded the Constitution in his ruling on Obama bin Laden Care. The plan is full of death panels, as was said by Sarah Palin, by the rationing of healthcare. This is why people come from Canada to have life saving operations here. Here is an article describing how one of Obama bin Laden’s associates has lost his insurance due to Obama bin Laden Care.

      http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/obamas-ex-bodyguard-losing-health-coverage/

      I guess another one just got thrown under the bus by Obama bin Laden. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

      “It is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favors.”

      George Washington

  • TheOriginalDaveH
    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Well said and keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! Here is an article that describes how thousands of people in Florida lost their insurance coverage due to Obama bin Laden Care.

      http://www.kaiserhealthnews.com/Stories/2013/October/21/cancellation-notice-health-insurance.aspx

      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

      “Make sure you are doing what God wants you to do – then do it with all your strength.”

      George Washington

  • WTS/JAY

    Exodus: Inner-City Blacks Abandoning Obama & Democrat’s Liberal Agenda…(an eye opener!!!)

    http://gopthedailydose.com/2013/10/29/exodus-inner-city-blacks-abandoning-obama-democrats-liberal-agenda/

  • http://www.rt.com Alondra

    Dear Mr. Livingston,
    WHY my two replies (Part 2 and Part 3) disappeared?
    WHO is censoring?
    WHAT means this message: You cannot reply to a post that is not active?
    WHY my post is not active?
    Thank you

  • http://www.rt.com Alondra

    Big business declares WAR on TEA Party and pledge to support GOP establishment http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/28/business-groups-to-take-stand-against-tea-party-ca/

    The Republican establishment has just formed a new Super PAC designed to “beat the snot” out of the Tea Party. And they have already pledged $8 million dollars to do it.

  • http://www.rt.com Alondra

    51st state takes shape as 11 rural Colorado counties ask voters for secession

    GREELEY, Colo. — Colorado has been described as a classic purple state, but in many ways it’s more like two states, one red and one blue.

    Eleven rural counties, upset over a growing divide with the Democrat-dominated state government on guns, energy and social issues, are asking voters on the Nov. 5 ballot whether their elected officials should pursue the creation of another state carved from northern Colorado.

    It sounds radical, but then again, there is nothing ordinary about the political climate in Colorado. The historic Sept. 10 recall election that brought down two Democratic state senators ( including the president of the state senate) was only the latest salvo in the ongoing trench war between liberals in the Denver-Boulder corridor and conservatives in the rest of the state.
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/28/colorado-voters-will-be-asked-to-make-secession-of/

    TWO Colorado state senators recalled over GUN CONTROL support
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/11/colorado-dems-face-historic-recall-over-gun-votes/

  • http://www.rt.com Alondra

    For more than three years as he worked for enactment of the Affordable Care Act and encouraged people to enroll, Mr. Obama routinely pledged that people could keep their doctors and their plans if they liked them.

    That was then:
    4 years ago (June, July, August 2009): “If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period! If you like your healthcare plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan. PERIOD! No one will take it away, no matter what!”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXqKp5B0ZLE
    August 15, 2009 Weekly Address: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LRcLMScEqo

    And this is now:
    White House comes clean: Everyone won’t keep health plan under obamacare.
    Monday, 28 Oct 2013: “So it’s true there are existing healthcare plans on the individual market that do not meet those minimum standards and therefore do not qualify for the Affordable Care Act,” – Jay Carney

    obamacare DECEPTION :1.5 Million Insurance Policies already CANCELLED… Millions more to come http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYgBA5cNVZc

    But in the end NO ONE will keep their Healthcare Plan.

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    It’s another great day in this fight for our country. The Lord our God, Jesus, and patriots are winning a little more each day. Here is a movie that you can watch about the grinding down of America from the inside. I found this movie on a blog from Susan on the latest Great 8.

    http://www.vimeo.com/63749370

    When you understand how they have infiltrated us from the inside, then you’ll understand what evil forces we are up against. Here is some good news from the state of Pennsylvania. I’ll bet Obama bin Laden, libturds, and progturds won’t like this one.

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/pa-bill-would-require-public-schools-to-display-in-god-we-trust-107485/

    FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

    You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

    “If to please the people, we offer what we ourselves disapprove, how can we afterwards defend our work? Let us raise a standard to which the wise and honest can repair. The rest is in the hands of God.”

    George Washington

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    Once again, it is a great day as the smell of libturds and progturds roasting on an open fire fills the air with the scent of bacon (socialist and communist pigs). Here is an article the tells what a CBS reporter found out about Benghazi.

    http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/13043/60-minutes-finally-covers-benghazi-finds-white-house-scandal/

    FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

    You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

    “Liberty and Union, one and inseparable, now and forever exclaim Christ first, our country next!”

    Andrew Johnson
    17th President of the U.S.

  • Jeff Noncent

    now we the people need to stand strong for impeachment of the president of the United States of America

  • Bob666

    37% Say Zombies Would Do Better Job Than Federal Gov’t, 37% Opt for Feds

    Thursday, October 31, 2013

    It’s not exactly a vote of confidence in the powers that be: A sizable number of Americans think the undead would do a better job than the brain dead in Washington, D.C.

    Thirty-seven percent (37%) of American Adults believe the federal government would do a better job than zombies running the country today. But the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that most Americans don’t share that view, with just as many (37%) who feel zombies would do a better job running the country and another 26% who can’t decide between the two. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

    These findings are no surprise, given that 64% of Likely U.S. Voters now view the federal government unfavorably, with 34% who have a Very Unfavorable opinion of it.

    Fifty-six percent (56%) of Democrats still pledge allegiance to the federal government, but pluralities of Republicans (45%) and those not affiliated with either major political party (44%) have more confidence in zombies when it comes to running the nation’s affairs.

    Only six percent (6%) of all Americans anticipate a zombie apocalypse, so supporters of the federal government can rest easy. Eighty-two percent (82%) do not, but 12% are not sure.

    Among those who expect a Zombie apocalypse, 74% say they are at least somewhat prepared, with 53% who are Very Prepared.

    For those without a sense of humor, vote here.

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  • BHR

    If you are an older person, you better worry. Many of us will not reach the age we should of before OBAMACARE.