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War Rhetoric Heating Up

February 1, 2012 by  

War Rhetoric Heating Up

U.S. officials say that Iran, in response to mounting tension from the West, is prepared to launch terrorist attacks within the borders of the United States.

According to The Washington Post, National Intelligence Director James Clapper Jr. said in a recent prepared testimony that the alleged Iranian plan to assassinate the Saudi Arabian ambassador in Washington, D.C., represents a growing willingness from top Iranian officials to authorize attacks against the United States.

The assessment was delivered during the U.S. intelligence community’s yearly overview of the Nation’s top perceived security threats.

As the aggressive rhetoric toward Iran continues to come from U.S. officials, high-ranking members of the Islamic Republic are pushing back through the country’s state-run media. A recent story in IRNA, quotes Iran’s National Security Council Secretary Saeed Jalili saying that the West is not afraid of nuclear activities in the country, but rather of Islamic thought.

“Global arrogance is angry with Iran’s prominent role in the Muslim world,” he said.

As the tensions heat up, DEBKA-Net-Weekly reported that military and Washington sources have said that the Administration of Barack Obama has “secretly ordered US air, naval and marine forces to build up heavy concentrations on two strategic islands – Socotra, which is part of a Yemeni archipelago in the Indian Ocean, and the Omani island of Masirah at the southern exit of the Strait of Hormuz.”

According to the intelligence and terrorism site, up to 100,000 U.S. troops will be present in the region by early March.

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • Robert Smith

    Why do they keep kicking sand at us?

    At some point it looks like we are going to have to speak the same violent language they are.

    Rather than messing around like we did for amost 10 years in Iraq let’s just lay 10 years worth of boom on ‘em in one 24 hour period. When they dig out if they don’t play nice boom ‘em again.

    Rob

    • Ted Crawford

      I’m more inclined to agree with Teddy, “Speak softly but carry a big stick”. Our problem has been that the guy currently holding our “Big stick” has proven to be either unable or unwilling to effectivly use it!
      Given that this is an election year, should things come to a quick head, he just might be forced to take appropriate action. In an off year we would surly find him under his desk in the Oval Office whimpering “Michelle, Michelle make them go away”!

      • FactNotRhetoric

        The war is between the bloody Saudi Dictatorship and the bloody Iranian Dictatorship.

        The Saudis are setting America up for the loss of thousands of American lives and Trillions of US Dollars spent to turn Iran over to the bloody Saudi Dictatorship.

        The bloody Iranian dictator is setting up Russia and China to lose thousands of their citizens lives and trillions of their dollars.

        It’s the bloody dictators in Iran and Saudi Arabia that are calling the shots with stunts like this. AMERICA WAKE UP – THIS IS A WAR BETWEEN 2 BLOODY DICTATORS OVER OIL

    • Alex Frazier

      Rob, I agree with your principle, but I think you are missing the point. Increased US aggression is provoking increased Iranian aggression. There doesn’t need to be a war at all.

      But if we’re going to have one, I’m with you. Go in, blow them to pieces, and come home. I have no desire to turn Iran into a democracy on the US taxpayers’ dime.

    • Bob in Boston

      I’m surprised to hear someone say “they are kicking sand at us” when it’s the exact opposite. We’re the ones that are sanctioning them, we’re the ones who are putting warships off their coast, and we’re the ones lying and saying they are pursuing nuclear weapons when the only credible report, published by the IAEA, says that they aren’t. Not to mention the fact that the asked us to enter negotiations about nuclear weapons and we said no.

      At least get things straight – they aren’t the bad-guys here, we are.

      People need to stop listening to the propaganda. Half the crap they say doesn’t even make sense but you guys just eat it up. I see people in this thread talking about us having to take out their leadership because their people are protesting, but how much of that is just propaganda? Imagine what the media somewhere else could spin up about the US for example. We’re teetering on the brink of bankruptcy with rampant foreclosures causing citizens all over the US to lose their homes while the elite in the country get richer and richer. Meanwhile our financial system is counterfitting money, causing other countries to give up the US Dollar as a reserve currency. Meanwhile we have our militarized police brutalizing (OWS) protesters on a regular basis. See? If you try hard enough you can ramp up propaganda against the US just as easily as you can against Iran. You guys need to be smarter then that and see through the propaganda. Iran doesn’t want to attack us, but we are *forcing* them to by our aggressive actions. You’ll notice they haven’t attacked another country in decades, unlike us – if we just leave them alone, they’ll leave us alone.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Why are they enriching uranium to the point that the only viable use for it is in weapons? It is called weapon grade. What reports have you been reading? You are either a fool or ignorant of the facts.

        • ccfonten

          He/she/it is both::: an ignorant fool.

        • TML

          “Why are they enriching uranium…”

          Their not… that’s the rhetoric being used to fool people like you into supporting the elites in their quest for, once again, making a regime change and taking control of Iran oil… just as they did with Iraq. You make yourself a puppet, friend. “Facts” are derived for diligent research, not the assertions you regurgitate from the news.

      • eddie47d

        The same reason we have folks in this country demanding more nuclear power Capitalist at Birth. We’ve spent decades enriching uranium for our nuclear facilities and now we get upset when someone else does it. Iran doesn’t want to strictly depend on oil for a fuel source. That way their electrical grid will have power and then they can sell the oil for revenue.

        • Studi30

          Our nuclear power generating stations aren’t enriching uranium. France has 70 nuclear generating stations in country and modern generating stations have no accidents as you can see(an accident in France would make world news). Israel will not need to use nuclear weapons to destroy Iran’s nuclear capability. The US just created a new bunkerbuster bomb that will penetrate 200′ of rock or concrete before going off thereby destroying the below ground labs enriching uranium.

      • Minnesota Girl

        A Ron Paul thinker! If the US is so horrible why not go to Iran and live?

        • Teresa M.

          I love my country and wouldn’t want to live anywhere else in the world. With that being said , I can also tell you that I don’t always agree with the actions of those ruling our beloved nation. We are bullies plain and simple. I wonder why we did nothing when the Iranian people tried to uprise last year hmm…Could it be that there is no money made for our corporations and politicians if they solve their own problem. If I were you I would only believe half of what you see and hear in the news, their goal is to make you afraid. If you are afraid, you will go along with anything they want you too.

          • Wapitiman

            Teresa,
            I think you are on the right track. Overpopulation, depression, and hyperinflation were the engines of WWl and WWll…and will be the engine of WWlll. The tome is ripe. It’s just a matter of choosing up sides. Hitler was elected and managed to find jobs for everyone. I hope to God history does not repeat itself…but I fear it will. We, the nation who has atomic weapons and wants to deny other sovereign nations the same privilege, are the ones stirring the pot.

          • Lee Baldwin

            BAM!!! ~EVERYBODY NEEDS TO READ WHAT

          • Lee Baldwin

            OK, that was strange kind of censorship! (if it was that) EVERYBODY NEEDS TO READ WHAT Teresa M. has said above here. then RE-READ IT. Our lovely MEDIA causes a ton of stress for all whom believe what the media says. The MEDIA tries to control with their off-truths. KNOW THIS.

        • TML

          “If the US is so horrible why not go to Iran and live?”

          Because we love our country, and don’t want to see it become a full blown despotism (as opposed to the elective despotism we have now) through the failed logic ‘the ends justify the means’, among other things. I find it exceedingly hypocritical of those who oppose the “elites” in almost every way, while supporting the ONE thing (preemptive wars of aggression) that is the ultimate source of ALL lost liberty and monetary problems which eat way at the soul of this nation perpetrated solely the serve the political special interest. Misinformed or misguided religious FEAR is what causes people to support mutually exclusive ideas. Please wake up

      • Downs1

        So Boib from Boston, do you think you can reason with these people? You are mistaken! They do not think the same way we do. Their standards are diabolically different. They have no compunction concerning killing women and children. They hijack planes and fly them into buildings! They behead people! They will never allow peace with Israel! They will one day take over Anerica because their fear tactics are working . . . we are scared spitless of them because of people like you who can’t make a stand. Muslims can pray in the streets and that’s OK, but we cannot pray in school and the Ten Commandments are anathema! There is no such thing as a spiritual vacuum. We [try to] throw God out (ala the ACLU) and Islam will rush in to fill the void. You need to read some history. Maybe you need to read the Bible and get the truth concerning such people!

        • Mark in LA

          God Bob is right about you people. Downs1 the IRANIANS did none of what you say. They are Shia and not even Arab ethnically and the hi-jackers were Sunni Arabs.

          This nonsense about not being able to reason with them is just more propaganda. The government you can’t reason with is the US government. They have decided Iran should be attacked and we spurn every attempt to avoid war in the same way Roosevelt spurned Japan to get is into WWII.

        • NC

          Downs, there is NO law that says a child cannot bow their head at ANY TIME AND PRAY SILENTLY TO THEIR GOD IN SCHOOL.
          HOW OFTEN WERE YOU TOLD IN SCHOOL THAT IT WAS WRONG TO STEAL. (A COMMANDANT)OR TO BE KIND TO YOUR NEIGHBOR ?(A COMMANDANT).THOSE COMMANDANTS RELATIVE TO RELIGION ARE BANNED BY THAT GREAT AMERICAN DOCUMENT THE CONSTITUTION!

          IT’S THE ACLU THAT KEEPS YOUR YOUNGINS FROM HAVING TO LISTEN TO A MUSLIM PRAYER EVERY MORNING ON THE INTERCOM.

      • Keith

        Continue to keep your head buried in the sand and that is what you will get, Buried.
        They want our lives not our arguments, this is a clear cut case of a group of Religious zealots who are in charge of a nation that wishes to force its neighbors and its policies on everyone within its sphere of influence. They have had a long time to hate, they were neck to neck with the past Natzi regime in Germany prior to the second world war and they are continualy making eforts to distabilize the region today. It is time for action, dialogue has never worked with dictators, only there complete and utter destruction can accomplish in making this part of the world including our own safe, especialy if the continue in there attempt to obtain the bomb.

      • Dan

        Bob in Boston, I agree. As would any intelligent person who paid attention in history classes and has enough of an inquisitive nature to delve a little deeper into world politics and economics, rather than just soaking up the MSM propaganda erroneously labeled as “news”.

        • Ted G

          Oh sure just insult people that disagree with you, putz!

      • Jimbo

        Right on! We have provoked them into this position. Why can’t people learn from the past? What did we accomplish in Iraq. The UN inspectors told us there were no WMD’s. The Russians and Germans said the same thing. We demanded proof that Iraq turn over records showing the destruction of the WMD’s. They delivered a mountain of records to the Security Council. And without even looking at it, the US grabbed it, hid it away, and said that Iraq hadn’t complied. We bombed Iraq back into the stone age, and lo and behold, there were no WMD’s! Now the idiots who are war mongering against Iran are preparing to drag us into yet another disastrous war, that will further destroy our economy, enrage the Muslim nations, and kill countless innocent people.

        Iran hasn’t threatened us, or Israel. There is no solid evidence they are developing the bomb. And what if they were? Who are we to tell them they can’t have a bomb? If you want to talk about beligerence, look at US use of it’s arsenal. The US has TWICE threatened to use Nukes in the Mideast. Bush threatened to nuke Baghdad, and Hillary threatened to nuke Tehran.

        The North Koreans, Pakistani’s and Red Chinese all are threats to peace in their respective regions, yet we don’t assassinate their scientists, impose sanctions against them, and threaten to attack. Why? We don’t threaten countries that possess nukes! If the Iranians ARE seeking nukes, it is because they see that the only force the US respects are nukes.

        I love my country (the US) and served in the armed forces. I hate to see what we are becoming. The Nazi’s of the 21st century! If we go to war against Iran, it will destroy what is left of our economy. We will be the Pariah of the middle east.

        There is nothing in the Constitution (or Bible) which says the US must act as a proxy army for Israel. Israel can, and should take care of itself. The US is war weary and broke. We can’t afford another war.

        • Ted G

          First Thank You for your service.
          But its a small world isn’t it, and its all interconnected.
          America has a role whether we like it or not.

          I guess the real question is at what point would you all actually take some action to oppose our adversaries?
          What would those actions be?
          Do you even admit that we have any?
          Another question is do you really think that America has had a negative impact on the world? Do the fundamental laws and principals of America not jive with our actions?

          Does America have any responsibility to the rest of the people in this world?
          Do you believe in the UN? Does the UNDHR have any real meaning? It does after all agree with our own founding documents.

          Do you support those countries that are not based on these rights? You know those rights which we take for granted and consider the minimum rights applicable to all people?

          These are all serious questions and all deserving of discusssion.
          But if we don’t stop insulting each other and start talking about and answering these questions to reach consensus then we will continue talk past each other.

      • liz

        A lot of opinions,Bob, you have are good points, especially about the economy. However, saying that Iran has not bothered us is false. They financially and militarily have aided anyone against us since before the Iranian embassy was overrun in the 1970′s. They haven’t done any big damage to us so we think they have no beef with us. But like a yipping dog, they eventually will hit a vein at your ankle that can cause you to bleed to death if you don’t take appropriate action. One of the mistakes we in the West make is that we think other countries think like us. People in this area of the world think the exact opposite of us, but they use our own rhetoric against us. Many of them believe if you don’t have their religion your only purpose is to be a slave or dead. Any effort to elimanate nonbelievers is okay with not only their governments but their religous leaders.
        Caring about others requires love of your fellow man no matter what state they are in. Too many people in this region would find that concept alone totally rediculous.

      • wesley

        bull crap!

    • James

      What violent language did they speak? I saw no quotes in the article.

    • blackwingA520

      Exactly, quit playing around with these Desert clowns. Kill em’ all and let Allah sort em’ out!

      • James

        Blackwing, Are you saying Iranians should be killed because they want to build a nuclear power plant?

  • Ted Crawford

    Come on now! Really? Irans’ long term position, is and always has been, anti-Isreal,anti-America and anti-West! This is nothing more than a transparent attempt at fear mongering, designed to garner support for Ron Paul!
    Nothing we say will ever change their goal of complete world domination for Islam. Appeasing nations have never fared well throughout history. It’s exactly as Winston Churchill described it “An appeaser is one who feeds the Crocodile, hoping it will eat him last”!

    • Alex Frazier

      Honestly, that’s an intelligent media-born point of view. It makes good sense. But if you do your homework on history, you will find that they are responding to aggression, not attacking freedom. There is a reason they attack certain countries with regularity, and they quite conspicuously don’t attack other countries at all. If it were all about their religion, everyone would be fair game. But places like Switzerland don’t get bothered. That’s because there are no Swiss movements to invade Muslim territories.

      Personally, I can’t stand Muslims. I’ve seen the videos of the honor killings, the gay hangings, etc. I think they are godless heathens. But truth is truth. They are responding to our aggression, and these wars are going to continue indefinitely if someone in power doesn’t wake up and consider that reality.

      • Mary Mohanan

        AND they want islamic infiltration in the US. That is the last thing we want here. Yet judges are already using islamic law (sharia) to decide cases right here in the good old USA. We must put a stop to that. NOBAMA 2012 !!!!

        • Sick of “him”

          Amen, Mary.

        • NC

          Mary, it has long been the law of this land and upheld by the US Supreme Court that parties to a contract can choose the law of what ever source they choose to try lawsuits arising from that contract.
          If an American and a Turk entered a contract with the agreement that sharia law would control all conflicts then the court must honor that agreement the same as if they had agreed that French or German law would govern. HOWEVER,neither Sharia law NOR the law of any country can ever be applied in our courts to deny anyone in this country any right they have under our Constitution! The fact that you and others don’t like it does not make UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

      • firefight

        Alex,
        Are there any Muslims in Switzerland and if so, what are they doing? I’m sure Iran, like any other country would, is responding to imminent threat. That’s only normal. If you had three men coming toward you, one had a gun, one had a knife and one had a baseball bat, in which order would you counter attack? I hope you said, the one with the gun, then the one with the knife and lastly the one with the bat. You always counter the greatest threat. Since the U.S.A. is bigger and best armed, Iran sees us as the greatest potential threat. For what it’s worth, we, the citizens of this country, should see our own government the same way the Iranians do as our freedoms are being constantly stripped away.

        I agree about Islam and Muslims. None of them has come forward to openly condemn the actions of their “extremist” brothers and why not? If Islam is a religion of peace, where are their peacemakers? Where are those GOOD Muslims that always tell us that all the terrorist’s attacks are only the extreme Muslims? Why aren’t there any GOOD Muslims anywhere in the world protesting the actions of their brothers? I think I have that answer. THERE ARE NO GOOD MUSLIMS! The Muslim/Islam agenda is world dominance and our own Barack Obama is one of them. We are looking at that crocodile, we are feeding it, and we are hoping that it will not eat us as well. It is past time for dealing with Islam’s threat to us and the whole world.

        Now, here’s a little something for all of you. Me and all of my friends who have firearms are taking the time to save their bacon drippings. We are dipping the tips of our ammunition in the drippings, coating the tips with the bacon drippings. This is what I want every Muslim in the world to know. This is my counter attack.

        • Ted G

          Here! Here! Lest stop pussy footing around this eveil cult!

        • Vicki

          “I hope you said, the one with the gun, then the one with the knife and lastly the one with the bat. You always counter the greatest threat.”

          Presuming you have a range weapon the order is gun, BAT, knife. Unless the person with the knife is REALLY good at throwing it, the person with a bat has a longer reach that the person with the knife.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Are you an ostrich? Or do you choose to ignore all of the statements made by these mad men?

        • rb

          Which madmen? The ones in Washington or the ones in Iran?

        • James

          What statements did they make?

      • Ted Crawford

        Countrys like Switzerland exist because of the World Powers! They are protected because both sides need some “Safe Ground”. Switzerland is the place where money is put to be safe, where intelligence can safely be exchanged, and where antagonists can gain some breathing space. Should these radical Islamists prevail, Switzerland would soon follow!

        • Vicki

          Or just maybe Switzerland is safe because they follow our founding fathers advice and avoid entangling alliances. Oh and every one of them is armed and trained.

      • eddie47d

        Sure we must stop Obama ….from invading Iran. Sure we must stop Romney,Santorum or Gingrich from attacking Iran for they have all stated they are willing to do so. So did Bachmann,Cain and Perry! Not a lick of them deserve the respect of the American people for forementing war. They all keep poking and prodding for their own Gulf of Tonkin incident to stir up trouble in the world and are willing to send more sheeple to the slaughter.

    • TML

      “Irans’ long term position, is and always has been, anti-Isreal, anti-America and anti-West!”

      Do you not think that has something to do with the U.S. overthrowing Iran’s democracy in 1953 through a coupe and installing a Pro-U.S. dictator which ruled with an iron fist for 25 years? Hmm, might want to check out the reasons behind the hostage crisis in 1979.

      “ This is nothing more than a transparent attempt at fear mongering, designed to garner support for Ron Paul! Nothing we say will ever change their goal of complete world domination for Islam.”

      Their goal isn’t world domination… that’s disinformation. And even if it was true, I suspect people like you are only having a fit because you think it’s our job, America’s, to dominate the world through force. You should look in the mirror and reconsider who is the one spewing fear mongering.

      “Appeasing nations have never fared well throughout history. It’s exactly as Winston Churchill described it “An appeaser is one who feeds the Crocodile, hoping it will eat him last”!”

      Opening ourselves up to honest trade and friendship, while ceasing to deal with other nations through threats of violence, is not “appeasement” or any kind of isolation.

    • TML
  • Sirian

    We will see and hear a lot more of this throughout this year especially since it’s an election year. The only problem is really just the head of the snake. Remove the head of the snake and the rest of the body will die. In other words, eliminate the leaders and the Iranian people will cheer. But here’s our problem. As long as Obummer remains in office this will never take place. Just as there was no support from the Oval Orifice when the Iranian people were protesting by the thousands in the streets of Tehran over the rigged and fixed last election. We are building up troops, ships and planes in that region as a gesture of strength in return to the threatening rhetoric and actions that the radical leadership of that country continuously and seriously broadcasts. As to what will take place at some point in the coming months, who knows? But do not be surprised if something does take place and Obummer will use it to his advantage, politically, only as a means to remain in office.

    • Sick of “him”

      Too scary to put into words, I am afraid. :(

    • eddie47d

      Is Sirian saying we should have invaded Iran when they had student protests? Well Sirian there are massive protests in Syria right now with over 5,000 dead so should we invade them too. That would be at least 5,000 more killed than those killed in Iran’s protest. So what is your litmus test? How about the larger protests in China in 1989? China effects our economy much more than Iran does. How about in Egypt? Do we have an obligation to assassinate foreign leaders that have not directly threatened us? Which you did suggest that Obama should have done to Ahmadinejad. Why not target Assad who gleefully kills his citizens.

  • http://JointheDiscussion Ken

    We have seen what happens when the west tries too use common sense to try too diffuse religious situations in Iran, Iraq, Egypt, and Libya. Peace thru strength is the only thing that will save the west from the insanity of radical Islam. Period!

    • Alex Frazier

      The problem is, what made a sect of Islam radical in the first place? Do you suppose someone just got up off their mat one morning and said to himself, “those wicked Americans need to pay for their freedom. No one else. But definitely America.”

      Get real. It’s peace period that will save the west from radical Islam, not peace by strength. The kind of strength we display today only encourages the little man to hit the bully back. What we did to Japan was “strength”. We gave them a 1-2 knockout punch that scared the hell out of the whole world so greatly that it started an arms race and a cold war with other major super powers.

      If we use that sort of strength, perhaps it’ll have an effect. If we use Iraq-style strength, it’s just going to get US soldiers killed.

      Enough is enough.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Islam is, was, and always will be radical. You, once again have proven your ignorance of the truth. Islam is a cult, not a religion.

        • bill

          Well Capitalist at Birth,Very close indeed but you forgot a complete government,with their own sharia law.This escaped me until some wise fellow
          pointed this out.cheers

        • Mark in LA

          Islam was in a very quiet state until two things happened. The West forced Israel on the Arabs and took their land away and the US encouraged the spread of Wahabbism in order to counter the USSRs attempt to make headway into the middle east.

          • Ted G

            There is just so much wrong with this comment.
            First, Islam was only quiet in most recent history because after the fall of the Ottoman empire, the world countries (UN) divided up the conquests of war into several seperate countries and those countries then suppressed the political aspects of isalm while allowing the religious aspects.
            Part of that division included acknowledgment of the historical Jewish homeland which became Israel. If Israel was imposed it was not imposed any more or less than Jorden and Syria etc was imposed.
            The land did not belong to the “Arabs” then or now.

            Wahabbism is nothing more than a strict interpretation of orthadox islam and was not the result of anything other than Mullahs and clerics seeing the opportunity to impose their will and control power. Islam is first and formost a political ideology that uses vestiges of religion to control the populace thru intimidation, fear, coercion and indoctrination. It really does qualifies for a cult if you look up the definition.
            Islam threatens death to all who oppose it, it is ingrained in the population since childhood that questioning it is a blasphemer.

          • Ted G

            Sorry It was the colonial powers at that time not the UN.

          • Ted G

            And of course Israel was not concieved until after WWII after much lobbying etc. At that time the area known as Sumaria and Judea was not a part of any other nation did not have any nation status of its own and had virtually no cohesive population that could be considered
            indigenous.

      • Ted G

        You can’t be serious…Appeasement to this ideology is suicide.
        Don’t be foolish.

        • liz

          bravo for some historic facts. To add to this. The organized arab governments of the 1940′s embraced facism and loved Hitler. They lost to the allies in the area which started the process that became modern Isreal. Isreal was asked to absorb Jews from around the world and the Arab countries were supposed to absorb what are now the Palestinians. Instead the Arabs thought the displaced would make a great politcal football against the West. Unfortunately it is working in too many corners for those who don’t know a lot of history

      • Jim

        Alex: Your naiveté is astounding! I might suggest you do a little reading of the Koran before you go further with your comments. Islam is a political cult and NOT a religion. It is dedicated to violence in order to spread it’s tentacles across the world. Christianity is under siege, everywhere. One by one counties are being taken over by islam and personal freedoms are being lost. In the past ten years, the Christian population in Turkey has gone from approx. 2 Mil down to 200,000. The Christian population in the middle east has dropped similarly. You, sir, are an infidel….I suggest you look in the koran to fathom just exactly what that means! Further, your use of Switzerland as an example for achieving peace is mind boggling! Have you been totally blind to the destruction muslims have caused in the countries they have migrated to, their non assimilation into society, etc? Alex…Wake up!

        • TML

          You have no understanding of Islam, much less, Iran. Islam is a religion. It didn’t becaome a theocracy until the Iranian revolution, that over-threw Irans abusive dictator who was installed by the U.S. After we over-threw their democracy in 1953. The ones in charge after revolution became religious zealots. You should see things from an objective standpoint, and it would make you less of a hypocrite. While you spout the disinformation of Islamic desires to take over the world, you simutaneously support the same from your own government. And I find it very intersting that its usually only the christian crusaders who beat the war drums, making themselves no different that the evil they accuse Islam for. Wake up and stop living in your dream world of fear.

          • Ted G

            America wants to take over the world??? yea right, where do you get that idea?

          • TML

            I think it’s clear, with military bases in over 130 countries around the world (many from our continued existence following undeclared wars since WWII), and continuous wars of aggression against nation after nation, over-throwing governments and nation building, against any ‘enemy’ that can be placed under the vague reference of “terrorist” (not unlike Hitler did), that this American government and its allies are bent on world dominance and serving the political special interest groups and international corporations.

            This does NOT necessarily reflect what the majority of ‘Americans’ want, even though many are fooled into supporting these foolish endeavors by their appeasement to religious fear mongering through the umbrella of term of ‘terrorism’.

          • TML

            “The leader of genius must have the ability to make different opponents appear as if they belonged to one category.”
            — Adolf Hitler

            “Terrorism is the best political weapon, for nothing drives people harder than the fear of sudden death. What luck for the rulers that men do not think” – Adolf Hitler

          • Ted G

            To TML I don’t think your assertion is clear at all. You have stated a lot that basically is nothing but your obvious impassioned opinion.

            I simply disagree with your whole comment and what’s probably “clear” is that many other Americans do also.

            It seems that you believe in isolationism?
            Do you think America exercises imperialism? The evidence does not support the definition of the word.

            And “Wars of aggression” IMO that comment is simply absurd.
            Do you believe that no war of any kind is justified or do you just question the decision as to when to go to war?

            And furthermore for you to indentify anyone that agrees with the actions of America to be have been “fooled” impiies that you don’t think others that disagree with you are capable of reaching an informed opinion.
            For instance I could be of the opinion that anyone that takes your attitude is foolish or uninformed about America’s enemies.

            So try bringing down the rhetoric a bit

          • TML

            Ted G says, “To TML I don’t think your assertion is clear at all. You have stated a lot that basically is nothing but your obvious impassioned opinion”

            “military bases in over 130 countries around the world (many from our continued existence following undeclared wars since WWII), and continuous wars of aggression against nation after nation, over-throwing governments and nation building, against any ‘enemy’ that can be placed under the vague reference of “terrorist” (not unlike Hitler did),”

            These are facts, not impassioned opinions, sir

            Ted G says, “I simply disagree with your whole comment and what’s probably “clear” is that many other Americans do also.”

            I you can choose to be ignorant of the facts.

            Ted G says, “It seems that you believe in isolationism?”

            No, isolationism is like North Korea…. I agree with non-intervention, there is a big difference and it’s not rocket science. Non-Intervention is the abstention by a state from intervening in the affairs of other states, or the refusal to intervene in the internal affairs, entanglements, or disputes between foreign countries.

            Non-intervention is not isolationism. Non-intervention is the principle foreign policy that founded the greatest Republic on Earth, that promotes free trade and diplomacy, while protecting it’s citizens rightful liberties, reserving the horrors of war as an absolute last resort when our national security is truly threatened.

            Ted G says, “Do you think America exercises imperialism? The evidence does not support the definition of the word.”

            Imperialism: A policy of extending a country’s power and influence through diplomacy or military force.

            Indeed the evidence does support the definition of the word. To say otherwise is to remain willfully ignorant of the facts… not opinions.

            Ted G says, “Do you believe that no war of any kind is justified or do you just question the decision as to when to go to war?”

            Preemptive/preventive wars of aggression are NEVER justifiable.

            Ted G says, “And furthermore for you to indentify anyone that agrees with the actions of America to be have been “fooled” impiies that you don’t think others that disagree with you are capable of reaching an informed opinion.”

            I say ‘fooled’ because these continuous wars sadly gain momentum through the fear-mongering which is targeted at the cultural clash between Christians, Muslims, and Jews (which echoes of the preemptive wars once undertaken during the Crusades through a despotic Holy Roman Empire) most of whom unknowingly, unwittingly, and religiously, support the policies of preemptive war merely out of religious fear.

            See, my saying they are fooled is an opinion. Saying that America adheres to Imperialist foreign policy is simply a factual observation based on the definition which you seem to think reflects none of the actions by this country.

            I am of the opinion that you are willfully ignorant.

            Ted G says, “For instance I could be of the opinion that anyone that takes your attitude is foolish or uninformed about America’s enemies.”

            Which enemies? (Careful not to choke on your own words as you decide, and try not to use the word “terrorist” if you can.)

          • Ted G

            1.) The fact there are American bases are all over the world does not justify your impassioned opinion that “America wants to take over the world”.

            2.) Non-interventionism to me is like walking by an ally and seeing a rape take place and averting your eyes and keep walking. enough said on that point. I guess it all comes down to what you can ignore and what you can’t eh?

            3.)Imperialism, please continue with the whole definition, don’t just stop when it suits your ideas.
            a.)the policy of extending the rule or authority of an empire or nation over foreign countries, or of acquiring and holding colonies and dependencies.
            b.)advocacy of imperial interests.
            c.)an imperial system of government.
            d.)imperial government.
            e.)British . the policy of so uniting the separate parts of an empire with separate governments as to secure for certain purposes a single state.

            We are not taking over countries to make them our 51st or 52nd states.
            Hey I have a dictionary too!

            4.)
            You; Preemptive/preventive wars of aggression are NEVER justifiable.
            Me; If someone threatens to kill me and I have reasonble evidence that the threat is credible, shall I just wait to be murdered or go knock on their door?

            5.) Anyone or any group that calls for the destruction of this country is my enemy. Anyone or any ideology that calls for my murder is my enemy. You figure it out!

            Condescension is not good debate style.

            However for you to compare todays events now with the histories of the crusades may be more apropos than you would have intentioned.

            As brutal as the christians were during the crusades, history shows that they were a result of over 300 years of “Imperialistic” (now thats how imperialstic is supposed to be used accurately) conquest, forced submission and oppression of the islamic armies.
            Given the resurgence of the religious zeolots of islam in the world and the demands and rhetoric coming from these religion nutbags, we could very well be heading to another crusade.

            But hey go ahead and assume that the rest of the world is civilized and full of resonable people like here in the west if you want…you know where we can debate about controversial stuff without condescending to people that are of different opinions.

    • TML

      Peace through ‘strength’ (preemptive/preventive war) is an oxymoron. You haven’t seen anything except preemptive wars of agression on those people, not because of nuclear threat, that’s just the lies they spew in order to put fear in the american people to support their attempts at regime change and american dominance stricktly for the purpose of political special interest. You need to study history, friend, and stop letting your fear drive your reason. That’s all that make you a hypocrite to think war will bring peace.

  • MacWell

    We need good intel on the ground, when all the mulahs and smulahs and ackmadineatjoes are in session taking cheap shots at the US, then drop a couple of 20,000# ers… problem solved!

    • eddie47d

      So we throw threats and angry gestures at them and they are to sit idly by? I reckon we have to see who is the bigger bully! Remember we overthrew an elected government in Iran in 1953 so who started this “fist” fight?

  • Bob in Boston

    We’ve already been sanctioning the people of Iran since 2010, preventing their people from importing anything related to oil production (which is their main source of income) and also preventing them from exporting *anything*, down to rugs and pistachios! That means the civilians in Iran can’t make a living. Sanctions like this are an act of war. I hope nobody is going to be surprised when they attack us over here when we’ve been starving their civilians for months – that’s the definition of “blowback”. We’d do the same thing if someone else blocked our access to the things we need to make a living. And what are we basing these sanctions on? Nothing – the IAEA report *still* says that they aren’t pursuing nuclear weapons and couldn’t get them anytime soon.
    Are there people in the US stupid enough to believe the “They hate us for our freedoms” or “Islam wants to take over the world”? Unfortunately *way* too many people are that gullible. All I’d say to those people is that they should go read about the Crusades. Just because a book somewhere says it is the one true religion and it’s followers should take over the world doesn’t mean the people who read that book take it literally. Although the bible says the same thing in places, so maybe that’s why we’re fighting over there so much!

    • Alex Frazier

      Some might be interested to know that we had sanctions on Japan for a great deal of time before Pearl Harbor as well. You’re absolutely right. Sanctions are an act of war. It’s the modern day equivalent of beseiging a castle. If you keep them trapped without food or water long enough, you’ll win by default because they’ll starve. The only alternative is for them to come out of the castle and give it their best effort at fighting off your invading force.

    • Ted G

      So what part of a twisted supremacist theocracy based on world domination, that believes its O.K. to murder anyone in their way don’t you understand!

      • Clark

        Ted G.
        “So what part of a twisted supremacist theocracy based on world domination, that believes its O.K. to murder anyone in their way don’t you understand!”

        So let me get this straight, You believe that since you think they want to dominate the world, we must go murder them all, impose OUR will on to their society, irradicate their “cult” and somehow you think YOU are in the right? explain to me how this works sir? You sound every bit as radical as the extremist muslims in my opinion. Have you ever spoken to a radical or group of them and tried to reason? It seems that alot of people in our great country are being taylored to thinking just like you–Hate them for hating us. Kill them fist. They wont listen to reason… Here we are on this sight and every single person that is trying to reason with you is either naive or dumb according to you.. You sir are, in my opinion, cut from exactly the same cloth as those “extremists” you hate.

        • Ted G

          Well no you didn’t get it straight at all. I oppose this ideology without apologies and certainly without any compassion in dealing with any of its true followers that demand the right to murder me!

          I never advocated murdering muslims just because they are muslims!

          Everything I said is basic islamic ideology. It does demand that islam dominate the world, and islam does place all unbelievers in the infidel category and allows them (thats me and you I presume) to be murdered if we step out of line according to the sharia.
          Look just because all muslims don’t follow this crap doesn’t change the edicts of islam. Look at the sharia in all muslim dominated countries today. It is still a death penalty for anyone that changes their religion from islam and also for anyone that insults or critizises islam or its prophet.

    • Jim

      Bob: Your biggest problem is you have no idea what you are talking about. Read the koran a bit, be a little more observant as regards muslims, their behavior, etc….then you can comment. Further, your example of the Crusades is a bit of a stretch. It has been what, some umpteen 100 years since those occurred…..poor comparison. Islam is the greatest threat to peace the world has ever known. Based upon your logic, it is ok to kill Christians and Jews in the 21 century because of what happened 100s of years ago. Wake up!,

  • http://personallibertydigest Gottaplenty

    Keep a good supply of rockets or what ever it takes to quiet them down, to Isreal. It wouldn’t take Isreal long to eliminate Iran if they had the rest of the kooks off their backs Of course when you have an islam in charge, he wont support Isrea, those hated Jews

  • Ralph

    Everything I have read on this site is valid, But please ask your self a question.Why don’t the politions want Iran to enrich there own
    U233 for nuc. power? Keep in mind Iran does not have a delevery system for a bomb. Any enriched U233 has to be purchased from us or Russia. acording to the interned, U233 is more expencive from Russia than from the US. I gather my information from the internet and news reports? The actual truth is very hard to come by. One truth I know for sure is that I have never done anything to anyone from Iran! Those people don’t hate me or you, they hate the politions of this country but it our blood that will be spilled not there’s!

    • Mark in LA

      I have read that Iran has its own native source of uranium. That is why they have their own enrichment program. They could buy reactor grade fuel from the Russians if they wanted to but want to develop their own sources. The centrifuges use the atomic weight of a gas containing uranium to separate it into its isotopes.

      http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/fact-sheets/enrichment.html

    • Ted G

      Quite naive…

  • sean e.stanton

    C’mon Ted,
    Iran is just reacting to OUR threats and anti propaganda!
    Truth of the matter is…THE WAR MONGER’S want to go to war!
    There was never an assassination attempt,that’s another false flag…or do you still believe Sadam had WMD??!!??Really Ted

    • Ted Crawford

      What I believe, Sean is what the available facts tell me, no it seems he in fact did not. What I know is that he was very effective in his propaganda output! ALL the Intelligence gathering agencies of the World “BELIEVED” that he did! That being said I disagreed with Bushes assult on Iraq, then and now. He made a similar mistake to the one Hitler made in attacking Russia when he did. We didn’t need a two front war!

      • Mark in LA

        Ted NO ALL the intelligence agencies did not. That was what our government said. There was plenty of naysayers in the intelligence community who said the Nigerian yellowcake nonsense was pure fraud. There was plenty of skepticism about all the intelligence claims. They were all ignored when if any attention was paid to them war would have been the last thing somebody responible would want to do realizing the cost of it.

        • Buster the Anatolian

          It has been proven that Iraq had WMDs for he used them on both Iranians and his own citizens. What has not been proven is where they dissappeared to.

          • Jimmy

            Absolutely correct!!

          • NC

            OR WHEN THEY DISAPPEARED? Could have been while daddy bush was President! Hardly a reason for daddy’s boy to go to war.

        • sean e.stanton

          Very correct Mark,
          in fact MOST of the INTEL from other countries stated that Sadam had no weapon’s…OK,Sadam was brutal,but now the world is witness to the violence that he kept at bay.Most people do not see the culture we destroyed,NEVER to be restored through our war against Iraq.Now we see how complicated politic’s in that region can be.

      • sean e.stanton

        Well said Ted,
        But all the evidence leads to where we are now,and most of the INTEL at the time stated that Sadam hadn’t developed WMD.The intel that the Bush administration sold the american public was selected for it’s content,that Sadam COULD be hiding WMD…Remember what the real reason for our troop deployment was,I do…Sadam had expelled the IAEA inspector’s.After the fact there were reported INTEL DOC’S that said Sadam might have WMD…Hindsight is always 20/20,but noting the mistakes of the past,do you not think it wiser to not buy into the PRO-WAR propaganda?Iran stand’s NO chance of surviving a war against the U.S. and Israel and whoever else we would drag with us,and they are well aware of this,but they are not keen on being bullied.We,the U.S. and Israel have active covert OP’S going on against Iran,this is FACT.Just because they stand up for their right’s,by no means gives us the right to attack them.Question…Where are the two largest active combat forces in the world deployed at present date???Iraq and Afghanistan…What country sit’s smack dab in the middle???I’d be nervous also if I were Iran

  • momplayer

    They’ll have no problem gettng into this country to do whatever they want with obama’s indifference to the illegal border crossings.

  • Michael11

    Here we go again. The mad men of the middle east stirring up their camel dung again, towards the most beautiful Land in this God created earth called, America. Even our name that our forefathers named us must have come from God HimSelf. Iran can’t say that, nor any other country in the middleast, except Israel. America and Israel were created for each other, therefore We Must Stand with each other for ever. This is why America & Israel need to always be prepared for those countries in the middleast, such as that country called KuKuuu Land Iran. With a president who thinks he is satan’s choosen one by his satan mahadhi himself, anything could happen. So, with the threat from KuKuuu Land Iran’s chief imp, the president’e, America and Israel need alway’s take it serious, and be perpared to be ready for those little demons to come across America’s borders with the help from their mexico padre’s, the cartel. Iran must cease to exist and America need’s to stop playing around with them, and just Blow them out of exitence once and for all, so that they could never be a threat to anyone else in God’s world.

    • Mark in LA

      Sarcasm much?

    • Jay

      Here we go again. The mad men of the middle east stirring up their camel dung again, towards the most beautiful Land in this God created earth called, America.

      Response: If you took greater care in your analysis, you would realize that it is in fact the current administration, in partnership with the Anglo-block that is stirring up the camel-dung, as they did with; Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, Libya, and now Iran. Do you see a pattern?

      Even our name that our forefathers named us must have come from God HimSelf.

      Response: The name America dates from the early 16th cent. and is believed to derive from the Latin form ( Americus) of the name of Amerigo Vespucci, who sailed along the west coast of South America in 1501.

      Iran can’t say that, nor any other country in the middleast, except Israel. America and Israel were created for each other, therefore We Must Stand with each other for ever.
      This is why America & Israel need to always be prepared for those countries in the middleast, such as that country called KuKuuu Land Iran.
      With a president who thinks he is satan’s choosen one by his satan mahadhi himself, anything could happen. So, with the threat from KuKuuu Land Iran’s chief imp, the president’e, America and Israel need alway’s take it serious, and be perpared to be ready for those little demons to come across America’s borders with the help from their mexico padre’s, the cartel. Iran must cease to exist and America need’s to stop playing around with them, and just Blow them out of exitence once and for all, so that they could never be a threat to anyone else in God’s world.

      Response: The sly and deceitful way that propagandists distort facts, events and history never ceases to amaze me. That kind of disingenuous propaganda was used from both Israeli leaders and American Zionists. It was an the attempt to gloss over criticism of the Israeli murder and destruction in Lebanon by claiming that the Hezbollah militia used civilians as human shields. That’s one way to attempt to divert attention from the thousands of bombs the Israelis dropped on hundreds of civilian targets all over Lebanon. A typical evasion, the Israeli claim has been coyly used to purge attention from the reality: Israel had no business invading Lebanon in the first place!

      On the other side of the world, in the USA, arch-Zionist Mortimer Zuckerman is using US News to practice his journalistic chicanery. Only, in Zuckerman’s case, the house of mirrors reflects distorted images of Iran. Israel and its American propagandists desperately want to garner support for unleashing pre-emptive strikes against Iran like the USA did in Iraq. Zuckerman actually had the gall to come out and say so. He concluded his article with the following:

      The West will have to decide what is more dangerous – to attack the infrastructure of the Iranians sooner rather than later or to deal with an Iranian nuclear capability after the fact. The choices are not between good and bad but between bad and worse – and the longer we delay, the more dire those bad and worse choices will become.

      The phrase “attack the infrastructure” can only mean “bomb the hell out of Iran”. In Iraq, the US military called it “shock and awe”. In Lebanon, the Israelis conveniently labelled the carnage “self-defence”. Notice the deformed thinking in some of Zuckerman’s claims:

      In his opening, Zuckerman referred to “Iran’s emergence as the Middle East regional superpower”. Is that reference supposed to overlook the fact that Israel has between 200 and 600 nuclear bombs, disqualifying it as a superpower? Zuckerman brazenly shifted the focus to Iran’s efforts to create any nuclear power.

      Zuckerman called Iran “an oil-rich, fundamentalist, pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic regime that has not only nuclear ambitions, but the means to realize them”. That’s the kind of fabrication and twisted perspective that should have discredited Zuckerman as a journalist years ago. When writers refer to Middle Eastern countries as “oil rich”, the reference is derogatory, as if there was something evil about having large oil reserves. The reality is that Iran has wanted to develop nuclear energy so that they could export more oil – their only major resource – to support their economy.

      Paul J. Balles looks at the use by Israel and American Zionists of misinformation, faulty reasoning and warped perspectives in order to delude the intellectually-incompetent in the USA and elsewhere.

      Some of mankind’s most terrible misdeeds have been committed under the spell of certain magic words or phrases. – James Bryant Conant
      The sly and deceitful way that propagandists distort facts, events and history never ceases to amaze me.

      That kind of disingenuous propaganda came recently from both Israeli leaders and American Zionists. The latest was the attempt to gloss over criticism of the Israeli murder and destruction in Lebanon by claiming that the Hezbollah militia used civilians as human shields.(1)

      That’s one way to attempt to divert attention from the thousands of bombs the Israelis dropped on hundreds of civilian targets all over Lebanon. A typical evasion, the Israeli claim has been coyly used to purge attention from the reality: Israel had no business invading Lebanon in the first place!

      On the other side of the world, in the USA, arch-Zionist Mortimer Zuckerman is using US News(2) to practice his journalistic chicanery. Only, in Zuckerman’s case, the house of mirrors reflects distorted images of Iran.

      Israel and its American propagandists desperately want to garner support for unleashing pre-emptive strikes against Iran like the USA did in Iraq. Zuckerman actually had the gall to come out and say so. He concluded his article with the following:

      The West will have to decide what is more dangerous – to attack the infrastructure of the Iranians sooner rather than later or to deal with an Iranian nuclear capability after the fact. The choices are not between good and bad but between bad and worse – and the longer we delay, the more dire those bad and worse choices will become.
      The phrase “attack the infrastructure” can only mean “bomb the hell out of Iran”. In Iraq, the US military called it “shock and awe”. In Lebanon, the Israelis conveniently labelled the carnage “self-defence”. Notice the deformed thinking in some of Zuckerman’s claims:

      In his opening, Zuckerman referred to “Iran’s emergence as the Middle East regional superpower”. Is that reference supposed to overlook the fact that Israel has between 200 and 600 nuclear bombs, disqualifying it as a superpower? Zuckerman brazenly shifted the focus to Iran’s efforts to create any nuclear power.

      Zuckerman called Iran “an oil-rich, fundamentalist, pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic regime that has not only nuclear ambitions, but the means to realize them”. That’s the kind of fabrication and twisted perspective that should have discredited Zuckerman as a journalist years ago.

      When writers refer to Middle Eastern countries as “oil rich”, the reference is derogatory, as if there was something evil about having large oil reserves. The reality is that Iran has wanted to develop nuclear energy so that they could export more oil – their only major resource – to support their economy.

      Why does Zuckerman label Iran “fundamentalist”? Would he ever call America “Zionist” because its leadership is under the control of the Israeli lobbies and the evangelical Christian Zionists? He uses the buzz words “pro-terrorist” and “anti-Semitic” to describe the Iranian regime.

      The pro-terrorist canard comes from the support that Iran provides to the real Semites in the Middle East – the Palestinians and Hezbollah who have suffered from Israel’s terrorism. Zuckerman, of all people, should know better than to refer to Iran as anti-Semitic. The Arabs are the real Semites. Only the Sephardic Israelis qualify. The majority of Israelis – Ashkenazi converts to Judaism – will never qualify as Semites.

      • Ted G

        Wow thats a lot to take in.
        But serioulsy what would you do? Nothing?

        “Islam is peace” and the middle east is a paragon of virtue that we should only hope to emulate. The world is a rosey place and if only American warmongers could be restrained there would peace on earth!

        Please pardon the sarcasm but what the hell! Please tell me when you run for office so I can be sure to line up with my vote (not).

  • Capitalist at Birth

    Again, there are too many ignorant people on this site. I have better things to do, than read this drivel by the people stroking their keyboards. Good Day.

    • Minnesota Girl

      @Capitalist at Birth…Ignorant because we don’t all see it the way you do? I would think that attitude is pretty ignorant ! Just saying….

  • Jay

    The West, “The Anglo-American Axis”, will have its war with Iran, one way or the other. But first, the majority of the gullible masses must be adequately primed, and coerced into supporting this barbarous enterprise; and this, will be accomplished via relentless propaganda that consists of; innuendo, allegations, and misinformation, or more precisely, outright lies! The terrorists are the very one’s who call for this war.

  • bill

    While I’ve no doubt the radical Islamist might wish to spread their government/religion to all parts of the world,I still can’t believe they are suicidal.This is just more false flags generated by Obama and his criminal cabal to spread hate,discontent and division.There is only one option I can see.
    2nd Chronicles 7:14

  • rb

    Do you really think Mr. Obama is not looking for a reason to either be at war during an election year or suspend elections altogether?

    • eddie47d

      No elections will be suspended so stop with the trash talk!You are looking very foolish on that issue.

  • Raymond Carl

    Bob in Boston is right, We (U.S.) have interfered in Iran for many decades since the 1930′s. It was through the help of our CIA that we toppled the leaders of Iran in the late 40′s and helped install the Shaw who was ruthless in imprisoning, torturing, and executing thousands of his fellow Iranians for the sake of upholding democracy while the U.S. turned a blind eye to any reports of such things by the International Human Rights Commission. The leaders of our country were more concerned with having someone in power there that would not rock the boat filled with oil! However when the people of Iran began to heed the calls for justice which were being called for by the Ayatollah Komeiny the people rallied to him as a voice for justice and only by intervention of France was he allowed to be exiled instead of imprisonment. The subsequent return by him resulted in the final downfall of the Shaw and the institution of the government there today, A government with deep suspicions of the U.S. and its desire to influence the control of their oil with no real regard for the people of Iran. We have made the mess we are currently dealing with and to make a military strike on Iran will most certainly unite Muslims against us, who here-to-fore have not desired to fight the U.S.. The use of force in this matter is nothing more than the extension of politics by more aggressive means in order to have control. A military conflict will accomplish only one thing, an excuse to raise gas prices to exorbitant levels even if not one quart of oil output is stopped. The military Industrial complex will do anything to influence a military decision since they will profit by it. Since WW2 every conflict we have fought has really been a rich mans war and a poor mans fight. I know that from experience, I learned that in the jungles of SE Asia.

  • Matt

    Why don’t we leave these people alone and mind our own business?

  • Bobcatmountainman

    Did I miss it or hasn’t anyone asked why Irans peaceful neuclear activity is UNDERGROUND?

  • John Mags

    Iran is no threat. Obama wants war so he can use the terrorist card and declare martial law here in the U.S. because he knows he is going to lose the upcoming election if he is even allowed on the ballots. He is scared because he knows he is not qualified to be president due to his father not being a citizen.

    • NC

      John Mags, the post my mailbox sets on is smarter than you! Where do get all of this weird stuff? Faux Noise or Rush Limpaw or both???I saw him the other night at the SOTU speech and he didn’ look the least bit scared of anyone. I think that you just want him to be afraid and weak and are very frustrated that he is neither.
      I do agree that Iran is not threat to us here in the States and neither were Iraq nor Afghanistan. There were elements in Afghanistan that needed to be dealt with but that could have been done without troops on the ground for the most part! What does his father not being American have to do with his citizenship?

  • sean e.stanton

    I’ll answer that Bobcatmountainman,
    Iran purchased piece by piece from HALIBURTON!
    At a time when we imposed sanction’s and made it illegal for any other country to sell Iran nuclear TECH,Haliburton sent along blueprints and designs to build underground.In the event of an accident,containment is easier underground,AND,being that it is underground,the nuclear sites cannot be identified from a satellite that it is actually AMERICAN design…Funny,we sell them the technology,and now our government wants to attack them for using it…and I do not mean “funny” haha

  • grossyi

    Our government has lied to me so many times I find it difficult to believe anything they say. The media is no better. I don’t know what the truth is, but at this point I would not support a first strike and I oppose the build up of our troops in the region.

  • Wyatt

    As Iran is a third rate country ruled by a last rate gang of fanatics who like to rattle their sabers in an effort to get what they want . However if they were to attack the US. in any form it would be by terrorist tactics . It is the way of all cowardly leaders who like to brag in the aftermath of their actions about how brave and noble their “freedom fighters” are .
    Should such action happen, retaliation should be swift and total , a strike on their country that would make ‘Shock and Awe’ look like a Sunday School Outing . Somehow , I do not think the mental midgets in power to be quite that stupid

  • Barry

    So let me get this straight. If Mexico was taking uranium to weapons grade, building and testing long range missiles and going on and on about how the States needs to be wiped off the map. That you would not support a military pre-emptive move? As Iran gets longer range missiles and develop nuclear weapons they might as well be next door. Remember, Israel is considered the “Little Satan” by them and the United States is the “Big Satan”.

  • sean e.stanton

    Very valid point Barry…
    I guess it boils down to who is putting out the information,and do we or do we not trust the source!!?!!

  • Michael Bender

    What’s with all the war talk?

    Inspectors are there right now.

    Let them have a chance to find out what is there.

    Does this sound familiar? Is this exactly what happened with Iraq?
    Better think twice and examine what the hell is going on. I watched a video made before we entered Iraq the second time wherein a guy insisted he had associated with a group of high rollers who used him as a gopher. He said they had long term plans to incite an invasion of Iraq, Venezuela, and Iran. Now one might argue that Venezuela has not materialized much beyond little comments of discontent, but Iraq has. Afghanistan is about stabilizing the area to minimize terrorist organization and test the willingness and ability of Iran to equip them and what type of weapons Iran has. But now the rhetoric toward Iran is heating up. Why?

    I have to agree that if Iran had allowed inspections long ago there would not be the heated dialogue we are hearing now. But when you have despotic, maniacal leaders one cannot expect sound reasoning. The leaders of Iran surely have the same mentality as Saddam Hussein had. They think they are the descendants of a mighty kingdom that cannot be overthrown.

    Still, the US leaders, or someone behind the scenes, is far too wiling to get involved in war activities.

    This nonsense has to stop.

    I agree there are some people you cannot reason with for they MUST, absolutely MUST have it their way, but before you fire the first bullet or drop the first bomb you should at least try to talk out what will work for both sides.

    Just to clarify, if they draw first blood, the US should drain every last drop of theirs. It has the effect of deterring others.

    Another poster poised the prospect of the Saudis instigating a war with Iran. It is possible because the two factions despise each other about as much as they despise the US. Sunni vs. Shiite has been a bloody conflict since about 700AD.

    Problem is, we need Saudi oil so they can hold us hostage to that with threats of cut backs on production.

    Why OH why did the oil have to be over there?

    This is a perfect example of why the US needs a law that clearly states there can be NO military action without a congressional declaration of war. No more “police actions”. If congress people have to go on record as voting for a declaration of war, they will think twice.

    I have come to suspect all this war activity is about putting money in somebodies pockets. If I am right I hope they die a horrible death of some dread blood disorder as payback for all the innocent blood they caused to be shed.

  • HKaufman

    US needs a Moshe Dayan type mind set.. How long did War of Attrition last, 6 Days.. Were not talking about Moshe in this article. Its an interesting situation to say the least, Although i did not vote for Ronnie he did dance cheek to cheek with Iran during the Hostage situation,Who knows what is going on in Obama War regime room, could be
    another take out mission like the Osama BEEN GOTTEN caper. I guess we have to stay tuned to the same bat channel,same bat time…

  • http://PeaceSolutionforashortwhile Jim

    The only way that we will have instant peace with Iran and Islam is to throw Israel to the wolves. Iran and the other Islam states will attack all at one time. The Bible says that God will not allow his people to perish. This will probably bring on the destruction of the Northern armies, the rapture and 7 years until the end.

  • Studi30

    The Shah of Iran was a progressive who brought education to females and made Burkahs optional. The Mullahs hated him for his stand against Sharia Law. The Shah was venerated by a majority of the people of Iran. The Muslim promullah media (like our Lame Stream Media here) smeared him with lies. Ahmadinajad wants to hasten the coming of the Muslim Messiah(who will come when the world is under Sharia Law) and that means eliminating the infidel(read Christian,Judaism,Shinto,Buddist etc.). Ahamadinajad said( when asked about the fate of the 5 million Palestinians when he nuked Israel)they will all become martyers for Islam. The Muslim fanatics will die to bring the messiah and Ahmadinajad wants to die and doesn’t care how many millions he kills of Muslim or Infidel.

  • Marla

    I don’t trust what intelligence officials say. War Propaganda. Everything is twisted and we are always left in the dark. We never know what the true motives are for these wars. I think we should mind our own business before we end up in a world war to protect elite interests. We will be forced into a war we can’t afford and only the working class will suffer. Many of us do not even agree that with Israel so why should we support them. I have listened to many of Ahmadinejad’s speeches and while he does not like the Zionist regime, he is not the first aggressor. Iran has signed the Non proliferation Treaty. It has been living with Sanctions and has dealt with assassinations. Why are we letting Big Banking lobbyists run this country?

  • Joe C

    couldnt of said it any better !

  • AnneOnymous

    Who’s kicking sand in who’s eyes? None of them.. All of them. What are we to believe and who’s word do we take? Obviously they both believe their in the right, but there has to be a wrong (otherwise there would be no aggression).. No one will admit wrong doing because their convinced their right. We as citizens (on both soil) are the pawns that will eventually decide the right and as they (we) win, so too can it be written in the history books that they (we) were the wrong doers

  • ranger hall

    Bob in Boston,Teresa M,Jimbo and a few Others. You have some good SENSE, Others on here NEED HELP.
    What RELIGIONs do you see on TV,RADIO,NEWSPAPERS,Standing on street corners, Knocking on your doors, Around the world Trying to convert the PEOPLES. RELIGIONS that tell you give 10% of your earnings,RELIGIONS that have Made slaves out of their converts.Who and what built all the MISSIONS around the world. You know there is only TWO that i can think of, AND MUSLIM is not one of them.
    And Over half of the People on those planes were Saudi Arabs. Only record of them is what our govt Told us.

    For the Record I still want someone to tell me which is the RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, WHAT PEOPLE controls this money. WHY is It that we must keep the ARAB Countries SEPARATED. WHY is it so IMPORTANT that WE keep a large force IN SAUDI ARABIA, And doing so WE must PROTECT and keep the ROYAL FAMILY IN POWER.
    PEOPLE when you can answer these items, Then you will know something.
    And when it comes to killing Innocent people And DESTRUCTION WE are the BEST.
    Also when it comes to Defeating AFGANISTAN and IRAQ My Goodness THAT was NO real TEST of our POWER. Or did we defeat them.
    Lets see VIETNAM 50s to the 75. VC 159lbs, cotton Pants and shirt Bolt action rifle, maybe 8 rounds ammo. MOST, a bag of rice he or she could live on for three days. American 170 lbs,carrying extra 50lbs gear,250 rounds ammo, Auto Weapons, backed up by Artillery,Helos, fighter planes,bomber planes,.Napalm, 1000 pounders. Yes WE never lost a Battle. Bull crap with out the MAJOR Weapons systems I would not be here today, Those People kicked our butts with very little JUST their Will and a Better cause. Boy what a waste on both sides, And for WHAT.

  • ROGER,Canadian Libertarian

    Maybe, just maybe, if the WEST led by the Fascists,U.S.,Britain and Israel STOP threatening Iran and interfering with other sovereign nations, in partuicuallr in the Middle East, maybe just maybe, Iran will stop tit for tat???

    • Ted G

      The “can’t we all just get along” sentiment would be noble by itself, but when you follow it up with America and Britain being Fascist just ruins your credibility.

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