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Wait Until We Throw These Rascals Out

October 29, 2010 by  

Wait Until We Throw These Rascals Out

I read a very depressing statistic last week. In a nationwide poll, some 63 percent of adult Americans said they do not think they will be able to maintain their present standard of living much longer, much less improve it.

This made me very sad — and a little bit angry, too. Sad, because for 200 years, this country held out the promise of a better life to everyone who was willing to work for it. We could argue for hours about what America means to each of us. But for all of my life, until now, it meant the opportunity to build a better life — and to expect that your children would achieve even more than you have.

My grandparents arrived here as penniless immigrants. They never took a dime of charity. They would have slit their wrists before accepting welfare. As new arrivals from Ireland in the early 20th century, they saw “Irish Need Not Apply” signs on many businesses. But they took what work they could find, kept all three of their children clothed and fed — and made sure that each of them was raised to believe they could do better.

And every one of them did. My mother was offered a full scholarship to college, but had to turn it down. Instead, her parents gave her a used typewriter for her 16th birthday and told her to go to work. Neither her brother or sister went to college either, but both went on to lead successful, productive lives.

My mother’s passion for this country and the principles on which it was founded was boundless. She was fierce, feisty and absolutely unshakeable. She was a friend to every refugee from communism, helping hundreds of them get settled in Cleveland, Ohio and start building a better life there. If you’ve been reading this column for very long you know I’m also a staunch advocate of the principles she held dear.

But now we’re told that two out of every three people in this country expect their lives to get worse, not better? That would have made my mother angry. It gets me mad, too — mad at the sick ideology that is perverting the American Dream.

I’m referring here to the left’s favorite gambit, the politics of envy. For more than a hundred years, their lackeys in the media, our schools, in labor unions and worst of all, in government, have used class warfare in their effort to divide and conquer us.

They’ve promised that, if someone has more than you do, just vote for them and they’ll take some of the “extra” and give it to you. For more than a century, the left has proven the wisdom of the old adage, he who robs Peter to pay Paul can count on the vote of Paul. As the left has proven, there are a lot of Pauls out there.

Their redistributionist philosophy is nothing more than theft. They steal from you, and from every other productive American, in two ways. First, by demanding half of the fruits of your labors in the form of taxes: Not just the income taxes you pay to the Federal government, most states and many cities, but also in the unseen taxes they levy on everything you buy, use and consume.

But their second way of confiscating your wealth is even worse. It is by creating “money” out of thin air — the massive inflation of our currency that destroys the purchasing power of the dollar. The deliberate debasement of a country’s currency is one of the worst crimes a government can commit against its own citizens.

God merely asks you to tithe — to give 10 percent of your earnings to Him and His works. He promises you a better life if you do, but does not threaten you (at least in this life) if you don’t. Government, however, is far more demanding. You are required to “voluntarily" surrender half of everything you earn. If you refuse, they will harass you, seize your property, confiscate your wealth and even send you to prison.

Ah, but you’ve heard this rant before. So instead of repeating it again, let me share some good news with you. Come next Tuesday, we’re going to throw a whole bunch of the rascals out.

Barack Obama and his supporters insisted on nationalizing the 2008 elections. That is, they made every race for the House and Senate a mandate about “the failed George Bush administration.” They succeeded beyond their wildest dreams, giving them the biggest majorities in Congress seen since Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Ah, but now that snake has turned around and bitten them you-know-where. Thanks to the arrogant overreach of Obama and his allies, next week’s elections have also been nationalized. And a huge number of voters can’t wait to cast their ballots against our socialist president. Count me among them.

I’ve already made plans for the “Take Back America” party I’ll be hosting on Tuesday night. I think we’re going to have a lot to celebrate. I was in Atlanta last weekend for a family affair and loved seeing the headline in the local paper, “Election Day looking grim for Democrats.” The article below said that “Democrats [are] facing the possible loss of the House and trying to hang onto the Senate.” We’ll see, but I for one am hoping their worst fears come true.

By the way, permit a brief aside. For nearly 30 years, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution was part of my daily reading. I hated the liberal bias of the paper, but it was the only game in town. For more than four decades, the AJC tried to out-liberal The New York Times. The Cox family, which owned the paper, along with our largest radio and TV stations, considered themselves the southern Kennedys. And they were as subtle about their biases as their hero, Ted.

Do I expect to see some substantial conservative gains next week? You betcha. But here’s something that may surprise you:

The most important elections next Tuesday won’t be reported on the network news shows.

Yes, the races for the House and Senate are certainly significant. You could even argue that the future of free enterprise depends on them. But consider this: The contests for 37 state governorships and several thousand seats in the various state legislatures are even more important.

I say this for two reasons: One, it is the states that will determine the redistricting that must take place next year. Whatever they do will play a large part in deciding congressional elections for the next 10 years.

You probably already knew that. But here’s something you may not have considered: It is the states, even more than the new Congress, that will decide how far to go in challenging Washington’s enormous appetite for power and pelf.

Already, the attorneys general in 18 states have sued to stop Obamacare in their jurisdictions. But that’s just the beginning. In a couple of weeks, I’ll be writing about one of the most exciting developments I’ve seen in the past 40 years — the growing interest in the nullification movement. Thomas Jefferson had the right idea about how the states could stop an out-of-control Federal government: Just say no!

The revolution starts next Tuesday. I hope you enjoy it.

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

— Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • Jana

    Standards have certainly changed since Chip Wood’s mother was a young girl of 16. Today they have their hands out saying “Where’s mine?” Everyone thinks they deserve it. I remember hearing stories about the Irish being the lowest class around, and not worthy. My husbands family are Irish, and they remember the hardships and the unfairness. However, we notice how the Irish pulled themselves up by not giving up and hard work. HARD WORK has become two bad 4 letter words.
    Until we do get Obama out of the WH, we will have a hard struggle. In my estimation he will go down as the WORST President in U S History, and that is saying a lot. He is arrogant, divisive, and the self proclaimed President of only a few as he does not think he is Pres. of all and reminds us of this constantly.
    His policies are bad for our country, and although he may be a likeable person we can see him mentality deteriorating. We are his enemies and we need to be punished. Wow actually I would call that delusional.

    • Butch

      I thibk you are all NUTS. It was no President Obama who got us into this finanical mess. It was wall street and other other Presidents before him. I feel that we need a chang but not towards a Republician controlled Congress. How about all Independances. When is Congress going to present a bill to get passes without adding PORK to it. I look at this from both sides andNO ONE has a correst answer as to how to get the County going forward. Maybe WE need to look at the past. History does repeat itself. Remember PKEASE no matter who GO VOTE. That vote will help make a change.

      • Butch

        PS Excuse the misspellings…

        • Barb

          Butch, your misspellings though many I can forgive, your being so naive or just downright ignorant is what I have trouble with. Of course Obama and his cohorts has everything to do with this financial mess! The democrats were in power in congress for the last 6 years and Obama just simply escalated the spending frenzy to the max and beyond. I agree VOTE but not often, once will be plenty, thank you!

          • Keith

            Barb, you truly are an idiot. Open your eyes, and while you are at it, do a little research.

          • Al Sieber

            Barb, this financial mess started with the Federal Reserve, our number 1 priority should be to get rid of the Fed. until we do, nothing will change.

          • Barb

            This is to Keith: No matter how you slice it or twist it Obama escalated this to epic and horrific proportions in very little time. Obama, Franks, Pelosi, and Reid are the biggest and worst and I don’t need to research that, that is fact Jack…

          • texastuxguy

            Bravo Kieth and Al. I’m glad to see that more and more people are getting the role of the Federal Reserve and the hidden puppetmaster agenda. We need to replace the Federal Reserve with an organ accountable to the people of the US. Presidencies are won and lost with money because so many people want it for free. Advertising has become the influencers of the masses and the hidden money men can make anybody look like anything. Stop the FED. and our country may recover. Continue this partisan bickering and we will all be shorn like the sheep we are. How does it feel to be the Bilderbergs ATM?

          • Barb

            This is for Al Sieber: The Fed. Reserve has been around since the early 1900′s if memory serves me right. And if I remember my US History right it is overseen by only one entity, oh yeah, the US Congress!!! Interesting! I also remember that it is pretty much it’s own boss however the sitting President can and usually appoints the heads of the Fed to suit him, hmmmm again Interesting! Correct me if I remember this wrong but US History was my strong point and my granddaughter is in that class this year!

          • Barb

            This is for TexasTuxGuy: We need an entire government that answers to the people not just the Fed. Reserve. That’s what we’re trying to get accomplished starting on Nov. 2nd. And with God’s grace next Tuesday will truly be the start of the revolution!

          • DaveH

            Barb,
            The Democrats have controlled Congress for the last 4 years.

            And Keith, you are the idiot for calling Barb names with nothing to back up your personal attack. Of course it wasn’t exclusively Democrats that got us into this mess, but it was mostly Democrats. The main cause of our current economic mess was too much intrusion of Big Government into the marketplace. The Federal reserve was printing too much money, and the Government was coercing banks to lend to unqualified borrowers. My son was a loan officer, and we knew two years before the collapse that the house of cards was going to come tumbling down. Why didn’t the all-knowing Government of ours know this also? Because they were deeply involved on the wrong side, and didn’t want to see reality.
            Read Thomas Sowell’s book “The Housing Boom and Bust”, and other articles on the web which explain how we came to this point. If you can’t even get educated on the matter, you certainly shouldn’t be calling other people “idiot”.

          • Jana

            Barb,
            Yes, Obama just keeps making things worse. You can blame the Reserve, you can blame the Bilderburger group, but its we the people that have let it happen by sitting back and doing nothing and saying nothing while we saw our Consitution being eroded away.
            It is the people that we elect to represent us from the President on down, that matters. We vote in someone like Obama then we deserve what we get. Now that we are waking up to that fact we want to try and save our country and bring it back to the Great Country that we know we can be. No matter what ANYONE says, that includes Flash, Butch and Keith!

          • BigBadJohn

            Barb,

            take a look at this chart and pay attention to the years -

            http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/US/M

            all the damage to our financial system started in 2002

          • http://none sean moor

            barb is an IDIOT!! a real IDIOT!!! the federal reserve WAS the begining of all this evil. the bankers own this country as well as the rest of the world.AND the universe as well. there is a book called “the creature from jeckal island” (forgive my misspelling)i forgot the author.but look it up.it explains how the federal reserve came about.and who is behind it. OBAMA IS JUST ANOTHER PUPPET!!!

          • http://msn.com LeRoy Lyons

            Barb- You are right all the way! It is the people that are bashing you that are idoits. They eather can’t se past there nose or there welfare checks that Obuma is trying to give this country away and if he isn’t taken out of office quick we will not be a free America for long!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • eddie47d

            If Obama is responsible now then Bush was responsible for everything under his watch up until Jan 20 2009. Sadly Americans have short and selective memories The economy collapsed under George Walker Bush so get over it. Saying Obama made it worse (yes) doesn’t take away anything from what Bush did or I should say what he didn’t do. In 2003 I thought people were off their rockers demanding upward of $200,000 above the neighborhood value of their houses. They said everybody could make a killing by trading up. I knew it didn’t look good and thought it all was rather shady. I’m sure others felt the same but no one wanted to challenge those kinds of profits. Greed got a stranglehold on peoples senses. “Nobody” knew that they would all be taken by scoundrels at the mortgage companies,banks,home flippers for they were too fixated by the almighty dollar. That is why I put the collapsed economy squarely on the shoulders of that guy who was in office in 2003. He saw what was happening and instead of cooling the market he drank champagne and ignored the warning signs. Late 2005 the housing bubble started to break and was in full swing within 4 months. The President certainly had to see what those in private businesses were up to and he did nothing. He lost control of the government he was in charge of and let all hell break loose. We are reaping what George Bush sowed and he let it happen before congress was turned over to the Democrats.

          • John

            If what economist say is true, (that it takes one term for the economy issues of a president to kick in), then the President who started the whole thing was not Bush, but Clinton.
            If you have trouble with that one,write all the economic analysts.

          • Al Sieber

            Barb, you need to find and watch the DVD “America: Freedom To Fascism”, by Aaron Russo. it’s the story of the Fed. Reserve. then you’ll know who runs the world. or “goggle” History of the Money Changers” by A. Hitchcock, it starts with Julius Ceaser, then Jesus etc.

          • Claire

            I feel like I am beating a dead horse. When are people going to realize that BOTH parties contributed to this chaos??? This subversion of America’s economy has been going on for 30-50 years, no doubt more. This crap didn’t happen overnight. Now everyone expects something to be done about it immediately when it took so many years to get into this mess America is in. Now we have an administration (Democrats & Republicans alike) that will not compromise and work things out. They don’t give a rat’s rump–all they care about is getting the “other” party out of office. All they care about is getting “their” party in office and having all the control. From the first day Obama took office, the Republicans decided they would be against any and every bill that was presented. They have done this for 2 years and the Democrats were just as inept. I resent my tax dollars paying these idiots’ salaries for 2 years when all they did was create more havoc. I have lost respect for both parties–I absolutely refuse to “side” with either party–they are all idiots. Irregardless of who enters Congress and the White House I have my doubts that any of them will have the good common sense to conduct themselves accordingly, to stop thinking of themselves, get down to brass tacks and get the ball rolling in the correct direction. I hear people say “The Democrats will get us out of this mess if they have control” and “The Republicans will do a better job.” How can this be possible when both parties gave America the shaft?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Claire,
            While I’m not saying the repubs are lily white, don’t you think they SHOULD be against nobama care??? Don’t you think they SHOULD be against further uncontrolled spending??Don’t you think they SHOULD be against the things that are NOT health related that are in the health bill?? I haven’t seen one thing this group of progressive liberals has tried to pass that they SHOULDN’T be against!!!

          • Claire

            Joe H –My point is—if all of Congress and the President had done the job they were hired to do, American would not have “watered down” versions of any bill or any piece of legislation. No, they all acted like a–holes and American people ended up getting the raw end of the deal. They are thinking of themselves, their party, and gaining control. And if any Republican/Democrat did agree with a bill that was brought up and voted for it, there was hell to pay. Either way, they did nothing for the problems of America. They were all too busy fighting against each other. They did not want to agree on anything. I see 2 years wasted on playing games. I see 2 years wasted because of “policical” affiliations. None of them were/are thinking of America and the Constitution. None of them have conducted themselves with any logic, rationality, and common sense. Instead, they were “campaigning” for 2 years.

          • Kate8

            Claire, If the bills they passed were watered down, I’d hate to see the full-strength version. There is so much written into these bills that we don’t know about. It will take a long time before the truth of what’s in them is known.

            If you refer to the public option being left out, all I can say is GOOD. It ALL needs to be overturned.

            From your comments I gather that you are in favor of national healthcare. Most of us on these threads are not in favor of national anything except national sovereignty and honor.

          • Claire

            Kate8– I stated “any bill or piece of legislation” that was passed was watered down–by this I meant the bills/legislation that were passed were not of merit and a lot of them were a waste of time. This includes National Health care. If a bill or piece of legislation is introduced, then do it correctly, honorably, logically, and fairly or don’t do it at all. Too many issues were pushed through as fast as possible without thought to the consequences. My overall complaint was about the politicians and their game-playing.

          • Christin

            ALL, (Claire)

            Obamacare…. not watered down.

            Go to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HnkxIh62dQ

            Dr. David Jana, a nationally known health care expert, spoke from Ann Arbor in Saline MI on Oct 10th, 2010. He also testified before congress and this is what he said.

            * 46% of doctors including himself would stop practicing medicine… why?
            ….. Physicians would get a $100,000 fine for 1st offense if they do not follow the “DC medical advice” (bureaucrats know best, I’m sure)on how to treat a patient,
            ….. Physicians would get jail time for 2nd offense.

            Patients will no longer be going to a certain doctor because he/she is the best for you… as doctors will all be given the same treatment advice by the “health panel in DC.”
            Guess that helps inexperienced and incompetent doctors “know” what to do; and guess what… you probably can’t sue the the doctor for gov guidelines in health panels!

            WATCH THE YOU TUBE VIDEO!

            VOTE: Constitutional Conservatives better show up to the polls in droves TOMORROW if they haven’t already done so… hopefully your vote will count as many have been tampered with… It’s called stealing the election. One way to compensate for the voter fraud is to have a high voter turnout so that the fraudulent liberal votes are less than the actual conservative votes.

            Godspeed all.

      • Ken Davis Sr

        I agree with you, Osama Obama is just the final straw that broke the camels back. Get rid of all 535 in congress, force Obama to fire all his czars, force the closing of 75% of the federal government and then we have a chance. Our only other hope is secession. Long live the revolution!

        • HFlashman

          Ken…Secession? Here’s my solution…there’s the door, don’t let it hit you on the way out. I’d say you’d be best in some SA country where the wealthy rule a subservient class of pverty.

          • William

            flashman I see you are still on the KOOLAID,

          • DaveH

            Flash,
            It is you who wants to subvert the Freedom that this country has embraced for 200 years. It is you who should seek that elusive “worker’s paradise” that you envision. You need go no further than Cuba. Have a safe trip.

          • JimH

            Flash, If Illinois would secede from the great state of Chicago, a lot of problems would go away.

          • Craig

            That South American country you say he should go to is a socialistic country precisely what he does not want this country to turn into. So why would he want to go their? You ain’t very bright flashdumbdumb.

            You morons that would love for Oidiot to turn this country into a socialist utopia are the ones that should leave. Socialism is anti- freedom, anti-liberty. The very things the founders felt were essential for a strong country for free people to live and prosper. You libs hate America and all she stands for, you losers should be the ones leaving.

          • Average Joe

            Guys and gals, I have grown weary of arguing with people like Flash. I have a new approach for dealing with the situation. It goes something like this: “Thank you for your input on the subject at hand. I will take it under advisement and look into it asap”. Next, I come back to reality and ignor what was said (90% of the time anyway….sometimes, they actually do say something that warrants looking into). If they want to try to baffle me with BS, I’ll return the favor by killing them with kindnesss….By doing this, it gives them nothing to argue about and the real disscussion can continue unabated by trash talk and name calling….just a thought …..

            Always remember, most times it is more about how the message is delivered…rather than what the message actully is…. which determines whether or not the message is listened to.
            Always be cordial. Debate is good…arguing and name calling is not.

            BTW, Flash, sometimes you do make statements worth looking into or actually do make sense…please do not take this as a personal attack, it is not…I am just tired of arguing with people in general, it isn’t productive. Also, I refuse to debate with anyone that doesn’t bring facts that can be verified…they are unarmed and there is no chance for debate….only opinions….and we all know about those…right?….Again,please be cordial and not combative…. EVERYONE.

        • Cliff

          Not the whole 575. I agree with Chuck Norris – line up every politician in Washington and have Ron Paul point out who’s honest and who isn’t. The dishonest ones get choked out by Norris. If people would stand up for their own liberties and rights under the Constitution, they would then know who not to vote for. I am very excited about this coming Tuesday.

          • Wayne

            I agree with Barb on this. If the Federal Reserve, is causing this problem, NObama is surely aware of it. NObama and his Democratic controlled Congress should make some changes in the Federal Reserve, or do away with the Federal Reserve all together, if they are the cause. The president and Congress do have control over the Federal Reserve Board, but apparently are too shy to try to make any changes. How can anyone defend NObama, and this lopsided Congress that has has agreed to everything on NObama’s list. I can see this Congress cannot think for themselves.

          • BigBadJohn

            LOL that would be a lot of dead bodies – who judges Paul?

          • Earl, QUEENS, NY

            I hear you Cliff. Speaking of Chuck Norris, I remember reading Newsmax magazine a few years ago, and I agree with Chuck Norris when he said he wants to karate-chop all liberal laws on the book. That could include laws telling us what kind of light bulbs or toilets we have, what kind of cars we drive, not to mention the disastrous rules by the EPA. There’s a long list of laws and regulations that need to be karate chopped, but it’ll never happen with the leftwing statist democraps in power. Hopefully in 3 days we start to move in this right direction.

        • Average Joe Patriot

          Secession? Now there’s a thought. I believe that the AMERICAN citizens of every state (yes, even California, Massachusetts, and New York…I have lived in them all) fundamentally want what’s best for this country. But the District of Columbia is NOT a state. It has no GDP unless you count politics, restrictive laws, and police (I’ve also lived in Falls Church, VA, next door to DC, and they have more different kinds of police uniforms in Washington than I’ve ever seen anywhere–the entire Beltway is rife with control freaks).

          Secession? Hmm. I don’t always agree with Mr. Wood, but he has a point in suggesting that people vote locally for people who have the savvy and the backbone to resist Federal abrogation of States Rights, starting with US county sheriffs, local judges, and mayors.

          Then perhaps the United States COULD effectively secede…from Washington DC.

          Our entire Federal government, the Pentagon, and the Military-Industrial Complex are all about money, and Barb is mistaken. Congress does not “oversee” the private bank known euphemistically as the Federal Reserve (they aren’t “Federal” and they don’t “reserve” anything, what they are is a foreign-controlled Zionist money-changing usury outfit creating and then lending to us our own money).

          What we have there is a classic tail-wags-dog scenario. Assuming we actually did “Throw these $#!T#EAD$ out!” in this or any election, the sole criterion for whom to replace them with should be whether said replacements will put their votes to work deconstructing the Fed. Not merely auditing it, not simply limiting it, but destroying this cancer which was permitted to invade our once strong nation in 1913.

          And when they accomplish that, the IRS should be next. If they did nothing else (people complain about a “do-nothing” Congress, so a lack of effort in any other regard should be no great concern), turning the clock back to 1913 and reversing the disastrous decision to establish the Federal Reserve and a national private income tax, just these two things should suffice to make taking back America a glimmering of a possibility.

          Any person running for office who does not recognize and loudly proclaim that these two efforts are key to turning this country around “Need Not Apply.” Because with the private central banks controlling the purse strings and the IRS looting the purse, our elected officials have very little say in how our nation is run.

          • Wayne

            I guess that means the President is not in charge of the Military then if this is the case. This is our country so I know that Congress can, and do make, and pass laws. The Federal Reserve was created, so why can’t it be torn down.

          • Claire

            Wayne—Because they don’t WANT to tear it down. They want to keep it along with the pork and the lobbyists.

          • Average Joe Patriot

            Wayne:

            Jackson fought the banksters and they tried to kill him. Lincoln fought them, he was killed. Wilson let them in the door, had second thoughts and said so, became a virtual vegetable while still in office. John Kennedy announced he would dismantle them, he was killed. Ron Paul has been thoroughly marginalized, no need for drastic measures–nowadays anyone in politics espousing the need for Congress to take down the Federal Reserve is immediately branded a wingnut by the MSM. The Constitution grants Congress the power to coin money, but with under 10% of Americans trusting Congress to tie their shoes properly, who’s going to give them the national checkbook?

            I didn’t say the President doesn’t, theoretically, control the military. What I believe, however, is that the President doesn’t control the presidency. As aforementioned, they killed the last president who entertained such a grandiose notion, and nobody since then has had the temerity to try it again.

          • Claire

            Average Joe Patriot—Good post.

        • Marie Mandel

          Revolution yes, against people who think like you!!!

      • http://wwwroyaltoypoodle.com maxi

        We do need a change and it is with the one in the White House. The man should never have gotten in in the first place. He is of questionable origins. He has a Marxist view of politics. You could say communitst view and still be ok. He is seemingly Muslim. ThBible says know Christians by their Fruts. We would say know them by what they do and how they perform. I see Muslim fruits no matter what the mouth says. I have never had such a down- doom and gloom attitude before this guy came into office. I see a big problem with his tactics so far. This country is so GOVERNMENT. They are even trying to legislate how many pets you can have and if you can have them. Everything legislated is taking away our basic rights. In the days of the Irish mother life was more free and carefree. Work was expected. My grandparents immigrated also. they were not handed anything and did not expect it. They could not speak English but when they picked up a phone they did not get “push one for English and 2 for Italian and three for Polish etc. Their rights were totally violated in that the bathroom doors did not have the word in 20 different languages. They lived in NYC by the way. I was in Miami Fla. lately and saw 3 languages by the elevator in the parking garage with instruuctions. I saw English, Spanish and the third one I thought what the heck is that? It was Creole. Imagine that!

        • http://wwwroyaltoypoodle.com maxi

          Sorry about the typos but this is written very small and I am very low vision. Not stupid just half blind. So I can’t see my mistakes till I click in in and it is blown up in size.

          • DaveH

            Maxi,
            Pick ‘text size’ from your ‘view’ menu and go to a larger size.

        • Robert S

          Maxi If the Republicans had put a better opponent against Obama he might have won. People are tired of the same old faces like McCains. This country needs some new blood. Not the same shills for big business and Wall Street.

          • Wayne

            I was not happy with the McCain pick either. However, I do believe he is a true Ameircan which I have some doubt about NObama.

          • http://yahoo Robert

            Obama is a true American.

          • Personal Accountability

            Did you mean to say, ” Obama is a true American”. Or were you being fascious? Sounds Fascious. Obama does not salute servicemen, or the flag, he does not emulate that he is a Proud American. Previously, someone above posted that he is the leader of a few. THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, LAND OF THE FREE, HOME OF THE BRAVE! Where have all the leaders gone? Internal bickering, while other countries upsurp us: technologically, Scientifically, financially, Health rankings, education, etc, etc. This country needs leadership that can focus our strenghs and put that to work!. Obama is NOT qualified. He has however, succeeded in dividing this GREAT Nation of ours.

          • Vigilant

            Robert:

            Obama is a true American?

            To quote Samuel Johnson, “you must have taken great pains, sir; you could not naturally been so very stupid.”

            True Americans have no truck with mortgaging the future of the country so our grandchildren have to pay for our excesses and mistakes.

            True Americans advocate enforcement of Federal law regarding immigration and sanctuary cities.

            True Americans don’t believe in the Federal Government forcing its people to purchase private products (Obamacare).

          • Vigilant

            True Americans have no patience with a Congress that votes on major pieces of (destructive) legislation before even reading them.

            True Americans do not tolerate a president that divides the people and encourages class warfare.

            True Americans don’t characterize people who support the limited role of government outlined in the Constitution as “right wing extremists.”

            True American presidents don’t appoint communists to positions of power.

          • Vigilant

            True American presidents care about ALL Americans and don’t paint their political opponents as “enemies.”

            True American presidents don’t divert taxpayer resources to special interests such as the unions and teachers just to solidify their political power base.

            True American presidents don’t apologize for American exceptionalism, much less deny its existence.

            And on and on the list could go….

          • Christin

            Love it and agree, Vigilant.
            Write some more!

            True Americans don’t sue the states for enforcing the good federal laws that protect our nation.

          • eddie47d

            Vigilant; You and everyone on this site paint your political opponents as enemies. You are the pot calling the kettle black and you say much worse. A good President doesn’t sugarcoat American history to only reflect white history or only one side. That seems to scare you. A good Republican shouldn’t divide Americans by class but they have been doing it all my life. When right wingers advocate violence then they are extremists,go and ask Slickporsche A good President doesn’t allow Corporations to buy elections. A good President is concerned about the health of all Americans not just a select few. A good President doesn’t send us to war by lying to Congress and the American people. True Americans don’t bully immigrants and exploit them for monetary gain. A good President wouldn’t have allowed Big Pharma to jack up the prices of drugs beyond the reach of the ill. A Good President wouldn’t have allowed insurance companies to raise their premiums against the American people while their CEO’s raked in Billions. A good President doesn’t give tax breaks to corporations who move their businesses overseas. A good President doesn’t give tax breaks for gas guzzling vehicles and the owners can write these vehicles off (totally) (Hummers).

          • Vigilant

            eddie:

            Kindly don’t mention slickporsche in the same breath with “conservative.” He’s a sick person who believes every problem can be solved with violence. I and others won’t even address his ravings, as he is indeed a right wing extremist.

            And kindly don’t imply that we have anything in common with this criminal.

          • Craig

            Robert to be more precise, Obama is a true Marxism loving American, who hates all things this country stands for.

          • Vigilant

            Addlebrained eddie:

            You just couldn’t resist it, could you? The first thing you did was play the race card…gratuitously, uncalled for, and not at all based on any facts whatsoever.

            You are fast replacing HFlashman as the resident communist on this site.

        • Marie Mandel

          Maxi, your are a fruit…

      • http://Newwave Betty Phillips

        Hey your comments are a little “sickening”, I can only feel empathy for you when you must pay for healthcare, or should I say Obamacare, either way, you are about to get a rude awakening. I think the best thing I can do is pray for you too!!! May God bless you!!!! Betty

        • Wayne

          I did not say NObama was a true American, I have my doubts about this as many of you do. If he was a true American he would hve produced his birth certificate by now. The courts, or the Democratic Party don’t have any guts either, or they would make him produce one just to satisfy folks like us.

        • http://facebook Quent

          THE muslims DO NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR obamacare ! !! ! hhhmmmm ,
          I WONDER WHY???? OH, obama IS A muslim ! !!!

          • Craig

            The Amish get to opt out of Oidiotcare. Why, I have no idea.

          • Christin

            Quent,
            They are opting out due to Religious beliefs.

            Can’t you tell that the gov just wants the WHITE MIDDLE CLASS money to redistribute to all the other groups… and when they have broken our piggy banks who’s going to pay for us… oh no one, because we will be getting the train ride of our life then we’ll get to go camping behind barbed wire…

        • Marie Mandel

          Betty, get real, you have always paid for healthcare. DO you understand what the healthcare bill is about?
          I doubt it. Get the FACTS! I guess you need to be prayed for, you and the likes of you who hide behind religion.

      • Terry

        Hi Butch. I have heard your statements before. They are popular, but so is ‘trick or treat’ night. You are correct about previous presidents causing much of the financial mess of today. These are facts-look them up if you are capable-if not, go to your library and ask for help; Pres Clinton (and those of his appointed administration) demanded that banks greatly lower mortgage home loan requirements. This lead to ‘liar loans’, which banks would only make to consumers after Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac promised to buy the loan from the bank. Pres bush let these persist during his first term-not to do so would make him the ‘anti-black, anti-poor’ President. In the 2nd half of his 2nd term, his proposed legislation to stop the Gov’t support of these dangerous liar loans was blocked by the democratic controlled Congress. Not long after that, the mess hit the fan and the financial snowball of defaults got started. So, in review, Clinton made the mess, Bush didn’t clean it up fast enough and was blocked by the Dems when he belatedly tried to clean up the mess. So, along comes the bailout king, BHO and history is made. The Dems made the mess and they deserve to wallow in it, but unfortunately, we all live here and us conservative, fiscally responsible, working 40 hrs/week folks have so suffer along with you entitlement-minded, fiscally irresponsible jerks who think that your free lunches are forever free. Well, guess what! It is time to shut up and pay, so just do it, along with the rest of us taxpayers who didn’t make your mess.
        Yea, I know; Personal accountability is a new thing for you, but so is reality. Good luck with handling this new challenge in your life.

        • Jana

          Flash,
          I hope you read Terry’s post here. This answers all of your misguided (to say the least) thoughts.I know you won’t learn from it as you seem incapable of that.

          • http://yahoo Robert

            The repugs god, reagon, started America down this path.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Robert, your a friggin laughing stock!!

          • Vigilant

            Angel,

            How right you are!

            “Against stupidity, the gods themselves fight in vain.” (Schiller)

          • Michael J.

            Terry,
            Glad to see that some people get it. I would like to add a couple of names however. Cloward & Piven who are the architects of the engineered colapse of our economy that was overseen, propped up and nurtured by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd until the moment it would do the most harm to the Republican Party in October 2008.
            What happened was not incompetence, but sabotage and the sabotuers are not done yet. During the upcoming lame duck session of congress, Obama’s recently defeated, walking dead congressional co-conspiritors will add the finishing touches.

          • Christin

            Michael & terri,
            A name to add to the list is George soros… he is the evil billionaire who has collasped FOUR economies of four other nations and he has been kicked out of some of them… Ireland, I think is one as they did not want to join the European Union… smart.

            G soros has given millions to Demo Socialist Groups in America in hopes of tipping the balance of power and I’d say he’s been successsful and collapsing America, but now he is being exposed and we are making him uncomfortable… KICK HIM OUT AMERICA!

        • BigBadJohn

          Terry, it has been proven that that 1997 bill against redlining played only a small part in the whole mortgage meltdown. A much larger factor was the repeal of Glass-Steagall in 1999. Please refresh my memory who controlled BOTH the house and the senate in 1997 and 1999? Yes Bill Clinton signed both of them into law, but it was a conservative house and senate that handed him the bills.

          George Bush had a vision that homeowners make better citizens, his “ownership society”, and he pushed the banks to make risky loans to help make his vision a reality. Do you remember GWB bragging about his policies leading to the highest percentage of home ownership in history?

          Did you ever even HEAR of a zero down mortgage before Bush?

        • http://stickmewithafork.blogspot.com TIMedWOrk

          Terry,
          Clearly, you did do your research. There are links to all the news stories from the New York Times to support each of your points. And you are right: there is a even a link to the New York Times that states that, due to pressure from the Clinton administration, Fannie and Freddie lowered the bar for mortgage loan qualification. According to the tone of the article as it was originally written, the Times clearly thought this was a good thing.
          On election night in 2008 most of the people I knew who were voting for Obama did so because they saw him as a black man. Not one of them could tell me of an accomplishment that made him credible in the role. They voted for him the same way the Nobel Committee did: because of his wishes, not his deeds. We can’t run this country on a wish list. That’s for gift-giving/receiving guidance. We need to run American on a list called the Bill of Rights. If a Democrat-controlled Congress continues to write legislation that Obama then gladly signs into law, we can continue to see that Bill of Rights list require a lot less paper to print out.
          On election night in ’08 I told those friends and co-workers who voted for the unknown/untested/unproven Obama that if he won, it would likely be the last time we saw a Democrat in the White House for a very, very long time. I told them that if I read the cards right, should he be elected, we would likely all be looking for jobs in the next two years. And I was right. That was, after all, my job as a sales director: to read the future, so to speak. At least I was good at my job. The company liquidated its assets last week; from being in the top .01% of our field to “gone!” in 18 months.
          One simply cannot be that condescendingly un-American, as Obama/Pelosi/Reed appear to be, and have the American people go along with it.
          It reminds of me of an enlightening moment back in the ‘70s when I worked for a big name, high-end department store in New York. A man and a woman came into the store, took several Big Brown Bags and proceeded to load them up, blatantly, obviously intending to steal. When the woman appeared a bit nervous and was trying to signal her partner that they were being observed, he told her loudly, “Just fill the damned bag! They’ll never try to stop us!” This was true. The manager simply watched for fear of personal injury should all 20 of us try to stop the two of them from robbing us at “P.C. point”, so to speak. Likewise, we American voters accepted a brown bag of who-knows-what, slapped with a couple of brightly colored stickers reading “Hope” and “Change”, because it looked possibly better than the steaming heap we could see, out in the open, as an alternative. We voted for what we wanted him to be, not for what he *proved* himself to be in his resume. All that was evident there were some unsavory associations with known terrorists (Ayers) and shady business/real estate transactions with convicted criminals (Rezko), whom Obama denied knowing personally. Ok, then.
          Likewise, our Politically Correct society would watch the pilfering of our futures before we would stop the thieves in their tracks. Mainly, I believe, because decent people just can’t imagine this type of blatant robbery in broad daylight. Our incredulity is the catalyst that allows this type of hooliganism to thrive. Just as it did back then in B’dales in New York. As Edmund Burke said, ‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’ And we continue to prove Mr. Burke to be correct.

          Well, from the tone of many who have replied here, the end is coming next week. And none too soon.

          • shibaimom

            Wow…I LOVED reading your post. It’s people like you that keeps me coming back to read blogs like this.

          • Dan az

            Tim
            very good post keep it up

        • Christin

          Terry,
          Great Statements.

          Looks like the socially childish Liberals / Progressives are out in full force due to the full moon this evil-spirited pagan Hollow-een celebration weekend.

          The Liberal/Progressives can not see the TRUTH because they can not differenciate or discriminate between right and wrong, good and evil, better and worst, and success and failure.

          Listen to “How a Progressive Thinks at : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c

          This is long, but is the best speech that explains how the progressive mind works and cripples them to see and function in reality.

          All please watch.

          • Kate8

            Now here’s a guy to vote for! I don’t know where he’s running, but some of you may recognize him.

            This man speaks the truth. Wait until you hear what the dems said about healthcare. Why was this not reported by FoxNews?

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP5CFAALSWk&feature=related

          • Jana

            Kat8,
            He said his name was Chris Gates and he is running in Georgia. Boy do I hope he wins.

          • Dan az

            Kate
            these are the kind of people that we need to run for every state not lawyers and carrier politicians. People with common sense people that actually held a real job its the only way this is going to work.

      • Buzz75

        Butch, You keep drinking the Koolaid! But if Republicans do not, at the very least, take control of the House, Obama will be unfettered to destroy all institutions that have been established over the past 235 years, and remake this Country into something that is almost unimaginable. He despises what made this country great, and he is absolutely out to destroy our individual liberties. I for one will not allow this destruction to occur, without a huge battle. Let’s hope it can be done at the ballot box.

      • http://YAHOO val

        BUTCH, YOU NEED TO READ MORE, BECOME BETTER INFORMED WITH JUST WHAT IS HAPPENING. THERE IS NOTHING WORSE THAN TRYING TO EXPLAIN YOUR SIDE, TO OTHERS WHO HAVE DONE THEIR HOMEWORK, THEY WILL SHOOT YOU DOWN EVERY TIME.I’M GLAD YOU LIKE OBAMA, BUT HE HAS DONE NOTHING IN ALL THIS TIME,HE HAS BEEN IN OFFICE..HE HAS SPENT MORE OF OUR MONEY THAN ALL THE PRESIDENTS BEFORE HIM, HE IS A SOCIALIST,(WHICH IS BAD) I COULD GO ON AND ON, BUT YOU NEED TO SEEK THE TRUTH YOURSELF AND DO THIS WITH A OPEN MIND.( I HOPE OBAMA GOES TO PRISON FOR TREASON)..LOOK UP THE REASONS I SAY THIS, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND !!

        • Marie Mandel

          Val, you obviously do not read and you are not informed, so don’t tell others to get informed. Study up on the word “socialist” and what it is and stop listening to the tea party jerks out there who are an incredible ignorant bunch and come back to reality.

      • Rick Quill

        Ah here we go again……..”blame Bush for everything”. When will you Libretards finally wake up and realize it wasn’t Bush. It was the Demoncrat Congress that got us into this mess. It started with Jimmy Carter when he got the Credit Reinvestment Act (CRA) passed which “required federal financial supervisory agencies to encourage banks to grant loans to people with low income and little credit”.

        Add President Clinton to the long list of people who deserve a share of the blame for the housing bubble and bust. A recently re-exposed document shows that his administration went to ridiculous lengths to increase the national homeownership rate. It promoted paper-thin downpayments and pushed for ways to get lenders to give mortgage loans to first-time buyers with shaky financing and incomes. It’s clear now that the erosion of lending standards pushed prices up by increasing demand, and later led to waves of defaults by people who never should have bought a home in the first place.

        Now what folks of your ilk either don’t see or refuse to see (and admit) is that the got out of control once the Demoncrats siezed control of both the House and Senate in the 2006 mid-term elections. Barney Frank was put in charge of the House Financial Services Committee which oversees the banking industry to include (do I need to tell you?) mortgage lenders. He was warned when he first took over as Chairman of the committee that the housing industry was in deep doo-doo and was about to implode upon itself. He ignored the warnings and went about his merry way. By the way, he just recently admitted on publice TV and radio that he made a mistake in not taking those warnings seriously. In the meantime, President Bush had been warned about the impending crisis/meltdown and requested, no less than 17 times, that Congress and the Senate do something about it to avoid the impending meltdown that had become quite obvious. But in defense of Barney Frank, he wasn’t the only one complicit (I hope I’m not overwhelming you with some of these words here) in the whole mess. Barney’s sidekick/accomplice in this whole mess was none other than Chris Dodd, who was serving at the time (and still is) as the Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee. Chris and Barney were later found to be Fannie Mae’s, Freddy Mac’s and Countrywide’s best friend and most influential allies in Government. Dodd reaped huge benefits in “special” loans called “Sweetheart Loans” from Fannie and Freddy. All I can think of about what Chris and Barney were doing when they were supposed to be looking out for the American people is that they were taking turns sucking down each other’s smoothies in some back room.

        Now we are in 2010. The housing market is in a shambles; the economy has tanked; the stimulus has failed to produce what they promised it would; the unemployment rate has gotten worse; unemploymnet benefits have run out for many; nobody in this administration is talking about jobs and instead are focusing more on how to “grow” the government’s role in our lives by taking over automobile companies, the banking and insurance industries, and forcing a socialized healthcare system down our throats against an overwhelming majority of the American voters wishes (do you “infer” ‘ignoring the wishes of their constituents’ from that?); and finally they are instead trying to force more taxes on us when, historically, every time taxes have been increased it has had a negative effect on business/job growth yet every time taxes have been cut back (especially on big corporations and the high income wage earners) it has had a positive effect on jobs and our economy.

        Obama and his cronies (i.e. Pelosi, Reid, et al) have been doing is just the opposite of what has always worked to promote job growth and to grow the economy. They have openly stated that “Capitalism” is our enemy and that the answer is to “spread the wealth”. Pelosi has stated that (to paraphrase here) “foodstamps give the greatest bang for the buck”. Sir, wake up and smell the coffee. What they are doing and what they want to do is called “SOCIALISM” straight up!! Instead of “growing” the government they need to be “downsizing” it and learning to “live within their means” just like every ordinary taxpaying citizen, homeowner, parent and student has had to do in this country throughout history. The concept of a smaller government worked for Calvin Coolidge and Ronald Reagan whereas the idea of a bigger government and “spending our way out of recessions” has always failed us. Franklin Roosefelts Presidency was a perfect example of the last – his policies sent us from a recession into the “Great Depression”. Jimmy Carter almost did the same thing and Ronald Reagan had to save our kiesters from his mess. Now we have Obama who supposedly is sooo smart but obviously either slept through all of his American History classes or just plain didn’t attend them wants to do the exact same thing that never worked before. All he and Pelosi and all their comrades want to do is to “Tax & Spend”. Once you start down that road where does it end? In the meantime they have racked up the largest debt ever seen by this country and they’ve done it in the shortest amount of time. Our kids, grandkids and even their grandkids will be paying off this ungodly debt their entire lives. But you can always look at the bright side I s’pose…..since China owns most of our debt that we’ll never be able to repay it will only be a matter of time before they call in the markers and when we say we don’t have the money and can’t pay they’ll say “well in that case we now OWN YOU”. Nuff’ said.

        • Rick Quill

          Just thought I’d mention my previous was directed at Butch and also – insert economy into the first sentence, third para after “Now what folks of your ilk either don’t see or refuse to see (and admit) is that the”.

          • Dan az

            Rick Quill
            exilant post stick around we need more like you here!

      • Jim W.

        Mr. Obama was not a major player, but the DEMOCRATS were and are responsible for the economic mess this country is in. You need to get educated on just who drove the policies that have caused this mess. In each and every case it has been and still is the DEMOCRATS. This didn’t start two years ago, this started with LBJ and was accelerated by Pres. Carter with a DEMOCRAT congress. Pres. Clinton then accelerated this again with the willing help of DEMOCRATS in congress in his first term. When Pres. Bush tried to tell congress and the American people that the housing policies in place were not sustainable he was laughed out of congress and made fun of by the left leaning main stream media. Guess waht, just as he said it was not sustainable and it collapsed.
        When you discuss Social Security remember LBJ with the willing help of the DEMOCRATS in congress took ALL the money from the Social Security Trust Fund and replaced it with zero treasury bonds. Those bonds pay no interest so they constantly LOOSE value. No wonder the trust fund is broke. He used the money to fund his war on poverty and the Vietnam War both mismanaged and failures do to the DEMOCRATS. There is much more, but maybe you can do some research and educate yourself on who is really to blame for the mess this country is in.

      • http://facebook Quent

        HEY BUTCH, CLINTON’S NAFTA & CAFTA HAD EVERYTHING TO DO W/ THE LOSS OF JOBS TO CHINA, MEXICO, KOREA !!!! THAT’S WHEN PLANTS STARTED CLOSING, I KNOW, 3 CLOSED ON US & I LOST HEM JOBS!!.
        THEN, DEMOCRATS WERE IN CONTROL STARTING IN 2006!!

      • John Woodbury

        Hey Butch. It you and your illiterate friends that cause so much of our woes. WTF did you vote for a Chicago Pol? Did you not listen to your history lesson? People use to want to work for it all, now people expect it to be given to them on a silver platter. Please remember the article on Tax free bonds, the other other shoe will drop if the O keeps his team together, along with a few Rhino’s and Independents. As Rham would say vote early and vote often.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      When the Irish and the Polish and the Germans and other immigrants came over here, for one, they came because they wanted to be American’s, and they wanted the opportunities afforded them here. They learned english and assimilated themselves into our culture, and were willing to work to acheive. Todays immigrants come over here, many illegally, and expect us all to pony up the funds to afford them a free life style. They feel we owe them a living, and that is wrong. Our society, with the democrats leading the way, have enable people to make a living off the public dole, with welfare, food stamps and other social give aways, thus keeping these so called poor under their thumbs and dependant on government. Many of our own citizens feel the government should take care of them, and that is a crock of bull. If I can work, they can work. But they feel why should they when old Uncle Sam is going to pay them to sit around and drink beer and smoke cigarettes all day. It needs fixed, but as long as the democrats prey on these so called poor folks, and these so called poor folks are to stupid to see that the democrats are preying on them and keeping them down, its not going to get better. But the dems are not their friends, they are the reason they are where they are at, down and out.

      • DaveH

        And after decades of Government spending to save our citizens from poverty we have these results. Notice that the poverty rate is little changed from 1970:
        http://www.delmar.edu/socsci/rlong/data/Inequality/HistoricPovertyTrends.htm

        • DaveH

          And now there’s this:
          http://www.moneynews.com/Economy/USPovertyinAmerica/2010/09/13/id/369999?s=al&promo_code=AB95-1

          When are the Liberals going to pull their heads out and start seeing reality? Big Government is the Problem, Not the Solution.

          • Jana

            Dave,
            When the Gov’t gives handouts it has strings attached. They in a way financially punish someone for working, so why work when you can make just as much without working?
            They ought to change these laws and put a limit on how long someone would receive welfare, and give them incentives to work. This would become a hand up not a hand out.

          • Jeep

            DaveH, you know the answer. It’s not about money, it’s all about power. Money is only the vehicle…and, a nice side benefit. Keeping people beholding to you for survival is necessary to keep you in power. The old adage of give a man a fish…teach a man to fish…is a well known axiom. A lib will give a fish now, full well knowing that if he taught the man to fish, then it follows the man will no longer need the lib. BTW isn’t it amazing that the lib always wants to give away someone else’s fish?

          • DaveH

            Yep, Jeep, buying votes. That’s all.
            Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
            Teach a man to fish and he’ll sit around in a boat all day drinking beer.

      • Christin

        Beberoni,

        Agreed.

        A little TRUE HISTORY Lesson from 1608:

        “John Smith became president of Jamestown as some of the colonists realized that without him they would all be dead. Some of the men, however, were still a lazy and not willing to work. Both Captain Smith and the other men who did work were tired of providing food for those who WOULD NOT work. Captain Smith made a wise new rule that came from the Bible (2 Thessalonians 3:10)
        ‘He who will not work shall not eat!’
        Then Captain Smith made sure the rule was never broken. Some of the men grumbled. They became hungry, but Captain Smith gave them no food. They soon decided that they must work” {YA THINK} “if they wanted to eat. From then on things went much better for Jamestown.”

        From “Our American Heritage: People in U.S. History” by Judy Hull Moore

        The 47% Entitlement Group, most of whom are healthy and able to work, need to get off their butts and take care of their own families and work like the rest of us who are paying most of the taxes. The “give me money group” needs to change their hearts!

        And our Corrupt Congress can STOP SPENDING money that is NOT THERE’s that WE THE PEOPLE… DO NOT APPROVE of. We can get by with a whole LOT LESS from them. Oust the Progressives (Communist Big Gov) and their “Kill America Agenda.”

        VOTE OUT ALL SOCIALIST DEMOCRATS and RINOS NOV 2!

        Vote for ALL Constitutional Conservatives and Republicans on Nov. 2nd.

        Then we can RESTORE America as a Free Market, Industry Producer (Jobs!… Not just a Consumer), Prosperous Nation following the Rule of Law and The Constitution of the United States of America again!

        I was told as young girl by my mother that the Communists would take us over from the inside, not by force from the outside… WELL, why can’t we take BACK America from the INSIDE out?! Getting control of the inner government and working out towards all the tenticals of EVIL. Two can play that game, right?

        • Karolyn

          I prefer the Shaker view of feed all whether they work or not. The Shakers were very hard workers and would store up food for the long winter. Invariably, they would be sought out during the winter by those who had not worked as hard to insure a comfortable winter. The Shakers would take them in and feed them no matter what because we are all God’s children. How much or how hard you work has nothing to do with your worth as a person. The most spiritual people in the world do not work at all. Of course, I condemn the users too, but you can’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. You cannot punish a child for the sins of the father.

          • Wayne

            Carolyn, how can you make such a stupid statement? I can’t believe anyone would make such a stupid statement as this. I can see you are most likely on some type of government assistance. I personally don’t want to work and keep some lazy abled body person sitting on his/her butt. I like the way the Little Red Hen took care of the problem. She did all the work while all the other animals wanted to play and refused to help. She would not share her bread with all the other lazy animals that would not help her and ate it by herself. This is for you Karolyn, who apparently have never read the little Mother Goose Rymes about the little red hen. I will post it below:

            One day the little red hen wanted to make some bread. She picked up some grains of wheat.

            “Can you help me plant the wheat?” asked the little red hen.
            “No” said the pig.
            “I will do it myself” said the hen.

            The hen planted the wheat. The little red hen looked at the sun. It was helping the wheat to grow.

            One day the little red hen went down to the garden to pick some wheat. The little red hen asked the pig to help. He grunted “No”, while rolling in the mud. No one helped the hen.

            The hen went to get the wheat from the mill.
            “Who will help me?” she asked.
            “Not I” said the old lazy dog.

            The very tired hen climbed the hill to the mill.

            “Can you please help me carry the flour?” she asked.
            The cat said, “No, I’m too busy!”.

            “Who can help me make the bread?” said the little red hen.

            The little red hen asked the cat and duck to help her make the bread. The laZy animals didn’t help the hen.

            “If you will not help me, I will do everything myself.” said the hen.

            The little red hen was making the bread. The hen baked the bread from the flour. She cooked the bread in her kitchen. he little red hen baked her bread very quickly.

            The lazy cat wanted to eat the yummy bread that the hen had made. But, the little red hen ate the bread all by herself. She ate the bread with jam. The little red hen’s bread was eXtra yummy.

          • Christin

            Karolyn,

            Shaker method is not one I am familiar with, but it sounds okay. You state “they worked very hard” (uh,oh a good work ethic) “and stored up food for the long winter” (wise people who thought ahead and planned for the future.) “and they would be sought out by those who had not worked so hard.” (unwise and not hard working putting off preparing for the future.), but even those WHO DID NOT WORK SO HARD …did WORK!

            Unfortuanately, America has many people… 47% (legal and illegal) …that are not even working that are on the Government Entitlements, while the rest of us …43%, are Responsible and working hard trying to care for our families and being forced to care for all of those others, too.

            Now I say that is not fair.

            The Gov TAKES, but God asks that we GIVE… very different.

          • Karolyn

            Wayne – I am not ashamed to say that I have been receiving Food Stamps for five years up until just recently when I finally found employment. And I was not sitting on my butt. I did everything I could to keep a roof over my head (selling various merchandise online and at a flea market). In the five years I’ve been in SC, I’ve had one job that lasted 8 months. I also worked for two of my friends. I did what I had to do, as a single senior woman, to keep food in my mouth. I have no family. I have worked since the age of 14 when I started babysitting. Who do you think you are to stand judge and jury over me? I’m also not ashamed to say that the position I now have is as an AmeriCorps volunteer receiving a living expense wage. Yes, the government is paying me while I help a worthy nonprofit and further my education. I am in the social services field and happy that I can do something with my life to give back and help my brothers and sisters. What do you do for your fellow man/woman besides bitch, moan and complain? Or are you one of these people who only cares about their own? Money means nothing to me other than as a means to live fairly comfortably. I buy all my clothes at thrift shops and am a coupon clipper. I don’t feel that I have to defend myself from your ignorance. I just want to proudly convey who I am and what I stand for.

          • BigBadJohn

            Cristin, Care to back up your statements with some FACTS!

            46% of Americans do not pay tax, but that does not mean they are collecting entitlements unless you consider all of that free military protection an entitlement…..

          • Jana

            Karolyn,
            So you see, there are jobs in SC after all. You have done a lot of them and have you reported your income? Now you have even found one and you said there were no jobs.
            You want us to feel sorry for you? There are a lot of us having to scrape and scratch out here to eek out a living. You are not the only one. As far as judge and jury? Evidently you don’t even comprehend what a judge and jury stand for. No one has sentenced you. You have given us a clear understanding of what you are saying unless you are not telling us the truth. You have given us a lot of different things to go on, and from what we understood from other posts you have been proud to be on the government handout.
            I will state, that one more thing we are all seeing as you keep talking is, your anger shows more and more, as well as you have a garbage mouth. Remember, a garbage mouth has garbage breath.
            You say want to help people but from the way you talk if someone comes in for help from you and they don’t agree with your politics you will curse them out and not help them. I sure hope that is not the case with you, but if you are like Obama, only the Pres. of a few and if you don’t agree with him then you are his enemy and must be punished you still might be in the wrong job.

          • Vigilant

            “46% of Americans do not pay tax, but that does not mean they are collecting entitlements..”

            That’s about the most perfect example of liberal fuzzy thinking I’ve seen. When they don’t pay what other people pay, THAT’S AN ENTITLEMENT!

            Wake up and smell the tea!

          • Karolyn

            Jana – You just have no clue! :-) God bless!

          • Vigilant

            Karolyn said, “How much or how hard you work has nothing to do with your worth as a person.”

            Oh yeah? When a lazy person who can work, and work is available, doesn’t work because they know they will be provided for…I think it has a LOT to do with your worth as a person.

            “The most spiritual people in the world do not work at all.”

            …and most of them are charlatans.

          • Karolyn

            Vigilant – And you have a teeny-tiny closed little mind. :-)

          • Vigilant

            No, Karolyn, what’s exceedingly small is your grasp of reality.

            You believe that being lazy and indolent is a virtue?

          • Claire

            My Mother is/was my mentor. Living on a farm, I was raised to believe that if a person worked hard, they would enjoy the simple fruits of their labors. My Mother worked hard her entire life. I look back and wish things could have been easier for her. She never complained, she just rolled up her sleeves and went to work. She taught me to be the same way. She taught me that there was pride in doing a fair day’s work. She taught me to hold my head up even though we were so poor. My Mother went to work so that we could get off of ADC. I can remember it really upset her that we were on ADC for awhile. She had too much pride to be on welfare. And I feel the same way. I am a worker, and I have pride in working. I was not born with a silver spoon in my mouth and you know what? I would never trade my life. I would never trade the way I was raised. I hope it has made me a better person. I do not covet what anyone else has, I am not envious of what others have. I am content with my lot in life because I WORKED for it. I may not live in a mansion nor do I have money to burn, but I am PROUD and HAPPY with what I have. I have worked my entire life and will probably die at my desk but so be it. All I know is that I am thankful for what I do have. And I am proud to live in America.

          • Claire

            There are jobs out there if a person truly wants to work. Hardees, anywhere–if the person wants to work. I know people that have 2-3 jobs. Are they complaining? No. They have too much pride to be on welfare. In this world, there are workhorses and showhorses. Take you pick. I prefer workhorses. I apply this comment to politicians as well.

          • Vigilant

            Karolyn:

            I’m still waiting for an answer to my question: Do you believe that being lazy and indolent is a virtue?

        • Dan az

          Christin
          well done I wished that the congress would just remember who’s money they are spending.They remind me of the banks when you deposit your check and ask for cash back they are offended, they think its theirs how dare you ask for your money.Congress spends like there is no tomorrow Blank checks with obumers autograph,its only money.

    • William

      Jana obummer IS the lousiest lieingest SORRIEST person to sit in the oval office in my 75 years on Gods green earth. and trust me we have had some very sorry ones.carter. johnson clinton especialy,

      • Jana

        William,
        Thats for sure.

      • Wayne

        Karolyn, this is another thing that makes me mad. Folks that want to work should be able to find jobs. I don’t blame you for drawing welfare when you are disabled, or when you can’t find a job. Anyone of us would do the same thing. I do believe we, as a Christian Nation need to help those in need. I would not blame any individual, or family for this, but I do hold this government responsible for lack of jobs. I really am honest when I say this. I think the government should be able to see what is causing our manufacturing base to leave this country. I think this NAFTA thing certainly did hurt us. I think that is when this all started to happen, this gave the manufacturing companies a green light by the government to leave the USA. I blame Bill Clinton, and President Bush for supporting this nonsense. Like I have said before, this nation will never recover like it did after WW2. We recoved quickly after WW2 because between England and the US had destroyed all the factories in Germany, Japan, and a few other countries. These destroyed countries did not have much choice but to buy from us. Today with everything being made outside this country that can never happen again. Our government needs to stop NAFTA, do away with corporate taxes, the consumers pays these taxes on these products we buy anyway, and drop a lot of the stringent environmental restriction they have placed on these manufacturing companies. I would rather have some pollants in the air and have a full stomache, then to have no pollutants, and be hungry. I do believe that the government could bring the corporation back to the US they had the desire to do so. Look at China, they have some pollutants in the air, but they are growing at a rate of about 10 percent and we are going backward. It would be nice to have a clean environment and be able to have all our plants back in full production, but I don’t see where this could ever be possible. The unemployment situation should have been President NObama’s first thing on his to do list. He neglected this and spent nearly a year and a half to pass the health care list and the Cap & Trade bill which would have really taken us down the drain if it had passed the Senate. This is the reason I am made at the current president.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Wayne,
          I hate to disagree with you but I know quite a few disabled people that work, myself included. I won’t collect disability, even though I would be able. You know what though? I can look at myself in the mirror and not be ashamed of who I see!!

          • Dan az

            JoeH
            Same here!

    • HFlashman

      Wow..Jana…between you and Barb, you guys could be roomates in the asylum together. Let’s take a gander at those things most of the posters here shudder when faced with…facts.

      In 1980, the average yearly salary of a CEO of a major corporation was 53 times that of the average wage worker salary. Today it’s well over 200 times.

      Since 1980, the average wage, in terms of real dollars, has fallen.

      Since 1980, taxes for the wealthy have decreased. Taxes for earners under $250,000 have increased. As compared to 1980, taxes for those earning over $250,000 are lower overall in terms of real dollars. Taxes for thse earning under $250,000…increased in terms of real dollars

      Do you see where this is pointing? Do you want more stats? Deficits etc..or just concentrate on the economics of the family and small business?

      Shall we point to where we were in January 2009 compared to today? Lt’s use unemployment numbers. Janaury 2009, loss of 800,000. This past month private sector jobs increased (fourth straight month). Gov’t jobs…remember, you guys harp on growth of gov’t…fell again and made overall numbers negative.

      That Stimulus package? 33% of it went to tax decreases…for the Middle Class and Small Business.

      Auto bailout? Kept over 100,000 US jobs AND saved an American auto industry…industry of heavy manufacturing and, if need be in wartime, a base for building armor etc.

      Want more?

      Want to tell everyone the specifics of the GOP plans since January 2009? Ummmm…can’t think of anything they said but “no” to every program set up to help and return vitality to our Middle Class and Small Businesses.

      Yes…the feeling of Amwericans is life is not going to be better. But blame the Democrats? Wrong villians. Blame the Right, balme the GOP AND blame the Dixiecrats. Pretty much blame those that championed decreasing regulations, tax relief for the wealthy, and allowed unchecked the false mantra given by the GOP every day.

      And yes, it’s my guess that includes you. So look in the mirror. That’s who’s to blame. Not this administration.

      • Warrior

        Vote out every commie progressive. They are the scourge of this country.

        • Michael J.

          Warrior,
          I liked your post and intend to cast my vote as you prescribed.
          However, I have cheated by cutting to the head of the line in order to address the rants of HFLASHMAN who has stated that 800,000 jobs were lost in January, 2009 as a result of the previous POTUS policies. I say that the drastic increase in unemployment was a reaction by Americans who were shocked by the threat of socialism which was about to beseige us all.
          I won’t justify the rest of his/her propagangized parrotry with a response, except to say that I am cautiously optimistic that the hard work and due diligence of every day American conservatives may soon reap the benefits we have strived for.
          Truths are being uncovered each day now that reveal the desperation of the socialist progressives. Whether it be conservative candidates being attacked with no apparent goal in mind, just uncontroled rage.
          Or a Florida senatorial candidate coming out of the progressive/democrat closet. Apparently Crist can not decide whether he is a Republican, Independant or Democrat, acknowledging all three designations within the space of one year is enough to make Arlen Spector jealous.
          What I see is a democratic party in stampede mode not unlike buffalos unwittingly heading over a cliff. Even if the lead buffalo catches sight of the impending danger, the momentum of the rest of the herd will carry them all over the precipice.
          Others of the liberal persuasion who post here, on this site seem nervous and easily perterbed like progressive dinosaurs four days short of an asteroid strike.
          At any rate, Nov. 3rd should be a day for celebration, but not vacation. While it’s probably true that Nov.2nd will mark the beginning of the end for progressive socialist, it will at the same time mark only the end of the begining for conservatives. Still lots of work to do, so stay frosty my friends.

          • Warrior

            Here, here!

      • William

        yep. flashman is into the KOOLAID big time. been taking STUPID pills too,

        • Robert S

          William Why do you use the word koolaid in every one of your posts? Bill O’reilly would be proud of you. Other than that you never offer anything to the discussion.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          William,
          Nope those were smart pills!! He picks them up out of his yard everyday after the rabbits go through!!! They’re called smart pills cause people are usually smart enough not to put them in their mouth!!! Flushman just isn’t that smart!!!

          • Dan az

            Joe H
            thanks I needed that!

      • Strawberry Shortcake

        “yawn” same fool…different day. get a life flashman.

      • Barb

        Since you just had to slander me in this I had to respond. AND you lefties call me nuts?????? Point # 1: We and all our friends and family (a very large one at that) are middle class, all our taxes went UP. Several friends and family own samll businesses all their taxes went UP!! Point#2:
        The auto industry bailout went to one group; Chevrolet Chrysler whisch used to be known as General Motors and is known as Government motors today. Ford Motor co. didn’t take the bailout and are doing just fine actually much better than GM so to say the bailout SAVED the industry is insane to say the least! Point#3 The jobs you claim were saved would have been here all along because GM would not have gone down in flames as they claimed. Meanwhile the unemployment rate throughout the country since your precious stimulus, has increased every month averaging 17000 a quarter lost! If that is your idea of success pal I want nothing to do with it! The leftists socialists Godless wonders are to blame, sorta like you I think!

        • Wayne

          Good comment Barb. Thanks. I understand it, but the liberals won’t. There is just something about English they can’t understand.

          • Claire

            Wayne–Sorry, but since some of my taxpaying dollars went to bail out GM, I bought a Chevy Impala. I have a different idea about things. I wanted to “support” my tax dollars.

        • HFlashman

          Barb…Slander is defaming by verval words. Ah well…now that we have established you have issues with accuracy…

          Point # 1: We and all our friends and family (a very large one at that) are middle class, all our taxes went UP. Several friends and family own samll businesses all their taxes went UP!!

          Of course taxes went up. Take a gander at the unfunded mandates to the states pushed through by the Bush administration. Bush used the same gimmick as Reagan…they “showed’ a federal tax decrease..sold it to the public. What it did was give the ealthy a helluva huge tax break and shved the burden to the Middle Class and the states. The two worst presidents this country ever had to suffer..and y’all cheer them as heros. jeesh.

          Now…point out in the 2010 tax code where it was changed to increase taxes on the Middle Class. 2010 because that was Obama’s budget …2009 was Bush. Oops.

          Point#2:
          The auto industry bailout went to one group; Chevrolet Chrysler whisch used to be known as General Motors and is known as Government motors today. Ford Motor co. didn’t take the bailout and are doing just fine actually much better than GM so to say the bailout SAVED the industry is insane to say the least!

          Really? So you buck every economist viewpoint. I haven’t seen one which states GM wouldn’t have gone under. What would have occurred had that hapened is the econmist debating point…but no one is saying GM wouldn’t have sunk. Now…go back and read some of the articles at the time. Ford did’t take funds..but it sure as heck supported the GM bailout. Reason why? because that bailout and the “cash for clunkers” program stimulated our domestic auto industry. Saved small feeder industry. Saved jobs. And created a much sounder American market.

          Point#3 The jobs you claim were saved would have been here all along because GM would not have gone down in flames as they claimed. Meanwhile the unemployment rate throughout the country since your precious stimulus, has increased every month averaging 17000 a quarter lost!

          And as I pointed out…you cry for less government. Where are those job losses from? GOVERNMENT CUTTING JOBS. The private sector gained jobs. So on one hand you criticize the growth of government..on the other you criticize government for cutting jobs.

          • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

            Flushman, I see you are still suffering from cranial, rectal insertion.

          • Craig

            GM and Chrysler are 2 different companies, moron.

          • John Woodbury

            Hey flash buddy you are a genius, do not listen to these wingnuts here. But tell me, dude how can I become ”the ealthy” so my taxes will go down? I think the GM/C.M. bailout was good for the unions and screwed the bond holders, who would have gotten something back under Chapter 7, guess the book was too boring for you and you did not make it that far. Like real wealth is created by ‘GASP’ business. The government has been losing jobs because umpteen millions were hired as temp works then let go, in real terms government is hiring like a bee storing honey.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          barb,
          your comment is very correct, but the money went to two groups GM and dodge chrysler. They are two seperate companies. The rest of your post is spot on!!!

        • Dan az

          Barb
          If you think about it he gave GM a down payment on there business and come November he already made plans to sell it to china.Hows that for creating jobs!

      • DaveH

        Look at the historical chart on Poverty Rates that I posted a link for, Flashman, to see where your politics of envy have gotten us.
        And you say “Since 1980, taxes for the wealthy have decreased. Taxes for earners under $250,000 have increased. As compared to 1980, taxes for those earning over $250,000 are lower overall in terms of real dollars. Taxes for thse earning under $250,000…increased in terms of real dollars”. Yet they still pay this:
        http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html

        So, the top 1% of the income earners paying 38% of the income taxes isn’t enough for you, Flash?
        Perhaps if the bottom 50% paid more than 2% of the income taxes, they wouldn’t be so anxious to support all those overpaid Government employees.

        There is a solution, Flash. All you Liberals, who practice the politics of envy, can pool your money and start your own companies to make our country better. Put your own money at risk, Flash, instead of trying to steal it from others.

        • Wayne

          DaveH, you just can’t get through the liberals heads what is, and what has caused this problem we are facing. I guess they want to continue to drag the rest of us down with them. I think the problem is, we have to many Socialist and Communist disquised as Democrats and Republicans. I am for the Conservatives that still believes in the free market place and who believe that we should work for our own living, instead of depending on the taxpayers dollars to help us. I heard on television a couple of nights ago that we have lost 45,400 manufacturing plants since 2001. Why is this happening? My thoughts are that the corporations are being over taxed, over regulated by idiots, and the fact that they can do better in Mexico or China where they don’t worry as much about the environment as this country does. If NObama had spent his first two years of looking for a way to create jobs instead of pushing the health care down our throats, and trying to pass the “Cap & Trade” bill, we would all be better off today. Why don’t you liberals google (Cap &m Trade) and see what it would do to you energy bills, if it has passed the Senate. The house has already passed it. You bills, according to NObama would necessarily skyrocket. Are you Libs prepared for that, or are you all rich? NObama should have been getting all the corporation executives together to try and figure out why they have left this country and what we need to do to get them to come back. For one, I would start with eliminating all corporate taxes. We eventually pay them anyway as this is included in the price of the product.

          • DaveH

            I would go even further, Wayne, and tax every adult individual the same. That way we would all have equal skin in the game, and we would be a lot more careful who and what we voted for. And then those people who ran into financial trouble and couldn’t pay would be the ones who suffered the task of filling out paperwork to explain why. The rest of us could just cut a check and get on with our lives.

      • Cliff

        Government jobs may have decreased but their pay has increased substantially to where their counterparts in the private sector make LESS than them. Obama’s bank bailouts still had the provisions written in that PROTECTED the bonuses of CEOs.

        Blame the Rebublicans for the lack of financial regulation that caused the economic collapse? Well, if you watch the videos on Youtube you will clearly see how the Reps were pushing for more regulation and watchdogs over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac while the Dems, especially Barney Frank, say they were fine. And yet we gave them over $700 Billion. Now they’re trying to snow us saying the cost will be only $30 Billion. $30 Billion to prop up two GSEs that hold Trilions in mortgage debt? To use an expression (and no, I am not a racist) – “N-word, please.”

        Last year Obama signed HR1388 into law, authorizing the formation of what some term “Obama’s Youth Brigades” in an attempt to spur volunteerism in todays youth, making it mandatory to join if you have received a student loan. There was a man that did this same thing in Germany back in the 1920s, recruiting the youth to do work and eventually making it mandatory for those under 17 in 1939. The name “Hitler” ring a bell?

        Today we get to read how the SEIU is already trying to rig the election for Democrats to win among other organizations. And now here you are trying to get us to drink the cool aid. Well, I don’t think the Republicans will do much and the TEA party was hijacked by the message preaching of “God, guns and gays” instead of staying pure to smaller government while preserving individual liberties. If we had that, I guarantee you we’ll have a much safer country and a more prosperous world.

        • Wayne

          I heard Barney Frank admitting to making mistakes in reference to Fannie Mae and Freddic Mac on TV a coupe of weeks ago. He only would admit to making one mistake though. Who ever was interviewing him must had the record of it in hand for Barny to ever admit to it.

      • DaveH

        Where do you get your figures, Flash? From the Hopes and Dreams website?
        Here’s what I found:
        In January of 2009 the unemployment rate was 7.6%. It is now 9.6%.
        For the curious:
        http://www.davemanuel.com/historical-unemployment-rates-in-the-united-states.php
        Anybody can talk about how many jobs were created, if they use the Liberal technique of ignoring those that were lost. Isn’t it grand to be able to only choose the stats that bolster your point?

      • Doug

        Here is a stat Fartman look at the wages and benefits of government employees and unions compared to to the public sector and tell me who is getting the shaft! There is nothing stoping you from becoming a CEO or CFO and so forth but notice all these government experts in Obama circle none of business experience nope just punk ass radicals who don’t what working for a living is. If I start a business and i put my financial wealth and sweet and tears you better believe I am going to reward my self and pay my employees a fair wage. And if my employees don’t think its a fair wage well they have the opition to go work somewhere else. Fartman you are the decease that has been eating at America for the last 80 years.

        • Teresa

          Doug is pointless to talk to flash, the only jobs the Obama administration has created is Unionized jobs. As far as the blame game goes the common sense here is this. The government has failed us in recognizing the one fundamental truth to the age ole question. WE THE PEOPLE are paying their salary. We the little people, we the big people, WE THE PEOPLE of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. So when a President and Congress pushes thru bills that we the majority do approve of nor do we have a right to vote upon of course WE THE PEOPLE get upset, but you see the “left” still think that WE need someone to think FOR us! This is where the difference is…government was not put there to think for us, they are there to govern! They will twist the words and try to justify in any ways necessary but that is basically all it comes down to.

      • Jim W.

        Yes I see the point, you and your liberal kind are envious of the people who make things happen. If the board thinks those people are worth it they will offer to pay them. The owner/CEO of a company I worked for in Georgia was quite well off, not only did he earn it he provided employment for many people by taking the risk to create and expand the company.
        By the way, I don’t hear you carping about what ball players make.

        • DaveH

          or Movie Stars.
          Flash just doesn’t get that the owners of the company are voluntarily paying those big wages to the officers of the company. Voluntary contracts just don’t compute with Liberals. They know only force and taking.

    • Karolyn

      I saw a chart on tv yesterday showing how the job loss rate had gotten high during the end of Bush’s term and how much it has improved since Obama has been in office. i know that in North Carolina, new businesses are opening up every week. I get an email from Gov. Perdue (democrat) with updates to constituents every week, although I live in SC with a Republican admin and gov. where NOBODY wants to locate their business. The republicans are keeping this state in the toilet.

      • Jana

        Well Karolyn,
        All you have to do is open your eyes and look around to see that little chart that you saw was wrong.

        • Karolyn

          Oh, but if it was a chart saying what you believe is right, it would be right! I don’t see more people around here losing jobs. All the jobs that could have been lost have been lost. SC has cut the budget so much here that they have closed local employment security offices so people with no jobs or money for gas can’t get to them to look for jobs. That’s republicans for you!

          • Jana

            Karolyn,
            Are you smoking your weed again? You aren’t even making sense.

          • Karolyn

            What I wrote looks perfectly clear to me. You must be the one who’s high.

          • Jana

            Karolyn,
            Ok, lets take your statement that in SC all of the jobs that could have been lost have been lost lost. That is not true. There are still more there that could be lost except for the ingenuity of some of the people doing them. People still have phones, they have internet, and most jobs now are found on the net. They still have electricity. They still buy groceries. Somebody has to have gas money to go to the store. You still get your government checks. You go to school. People still eat out.

            Then you blame the Republicans for closing the employment office? Uhhh have you been asleep since 2006, thats when the Dems came into power and started running things into the ground. And they are still doing it.

          • Karolyn

            Uh, Jana, we have a Republican legislature here that wants to keep South Carolina the same forever. Keep “good ole boy” politics and maintain the status quo.

          • Robert S

            Karolyn Most of your furniture industry has left in the last couple years. Thomasville looks like a ghost town. Was Perdue governor then?

          • Karolyn

            Uh, no.

          • DaveH

            Karolyn,
            I posted a web link so anybody can check easily to see the national unemployment rate for any particular month of the year. For your ease, I will post it again:
            http://www.davemanuel.com/historical-unemployment-rates-in-the-united-states.php

          • coal miner

            Karolyn,

            You are right.May I add something, all political parties are corrupt.Join the IWW today and make a difference.Anarchy is the best rule,which means no rule.All governments are evil,whether it socialist,capitalist or monarchy.Show me a form of government and I’ll show you a evil corrupt,festering cancer, run by scum bags,like Ronald Turn Coat Reagan,Dick Blood Sucking Cheney, George Scab Bush Sr and his cocaine snorting son,George Scab Jr, that not only exploits the people,but get us involve in endless wars.Governments bring nothing,but misery.It is time for them to go.

      • Doug

        Show us the chart Karolyn umm could they be govt jobs. Funny Dems creating jobs that is a oxymoron!

        • Karolyn

          I didn’t say anything about creating jobs. I’m talking about job loss. ABC World News (now don’t get all upset)has been doing a fact check each night on popular myths and what is true or false. And they are even proving some pro-Obama administration things to be wrong, so it does not appear to be biased.

          • Jana

            Thats funny. You don’t SAY anything about crating jobs and Obama doesn’t DO anything about creating jobs.

          • DaveH

            Karolyn,
            Do you know the difference between the number of jobs lost and the job loss rate?

          • DaveH

            If you look at the link I provided, Karolyn, you will see that during the Bush years (I’m no Bush lover, by the way) the highest unemployment rates occurred when the Democrats were controlling Congress in 2008. And yet the Democrats tout themselves as the worker advocates.

        • Karolyn

          Doug – Of course I know the difference! The chart indicates number of jobs lost at a particular time.

      • Wayne

        Governor Purdue (Democrat) Yep! that explains it. Need I saym more?

        • Karolyn

          What do you mean? I’m saying NC is doing great with a dem governor.

          • Jana

            Karolyn,
            Maybe NC doesn’t have so many government freeloaders.

          • Karolyn

            Maybe your wrong, Jana. NC is just more PROGRESSIVE! Charlotte is a very successful city, as what is said to be the banking capital of the US, with Bank of America headquarters, as well as others.

          • Robert S

            The Banker crooks found that Charlotte is a good place to hide.

          • John Woodbury

            Wow Karolyn, we are all wrong and you are right! The progressive party (commie) is so good for America. I bet even more progressive Hispanic people will move here. If they can find jobs and send money home why can Americans not find them? Maybe it is because we expect to be paid enough that we can get a burger at McDonald’s, a home and a car.

          • Karolyn

            Ok, John. What does “progressive” mean? It means “moving forward.” North Carolina is “moving forward” by actively recruiting employers. You people have such narrow views. You take a word and use it in your own way. There is nothing wrong with being “progressive” unless you want to keep the status quo.

          • DaveH

            If you want to throw states at us, Karolyn, look at California. They have been controlled by Democrats ever since I can remember. And they’re begging for money now.

          • DaveH

            Oh yeah, North Carolina is doing just great:
            http://www.deptofnumbers.com/unemployment/north-carolina/

          • DaveH

            And Karolyn,
            When are you going to figure out that Government doesn’t create productive jobs? It doesn’t matter if the leaders are Democrat or Republican. If Big Government created prosperity, the countries at the bottom of this list would be very prosperous:
            http://www.heritage.org/index/Ranking.aspx

          • Karolyn

            WOW! You guys are not listening to me at all. I am talking about statistics and the meaning of “progressive.” Progressive is a word that is not necessarily affiliated with any praty. In my experience, I have not seen a republican governor come into a state and be able to show good things happening in that state after a short period of time. I’m not saying they’re not out there. My experience right now is limited to NC and SC; and SC has been locked in place by a republican legislature for some time, while NC has been forging ahead. That shows me that the republicans in SC are too conservative to spend the money necessary for growth.

          • DaveH

            I’m not listening to you, Karolyn? You have that backward.
            The Government spending money does not create net jobs. Where do you think they get the money from? And who do you think spends the money more wisely – The person who earned the money or the people in Government that take the money from that person? If Government Spending created jobs, there would be no poor countries.

          • Kate8

            Actually, Karolyn, the term ‘Progressive’ was used instead of ‘communist’, as that scared people. The Progressive movement originated as the communist movement in America.

            It refers not so much to ‘moving forward’ in the sense most people would think of as ‘forward’. Rather, it would be better termed ‘incremental’, as it works according to the boiled frog syndrome. You move toward an agenda that people would reject if you tried it all at once, so you do it in small increments. That way people hardly notice until it is too late.

      • S.C.Murf

        Those McDonald’s and Burger King jobs will take your state along way girl. And as far as the unemployment numbers getting better that’s only due to the fact that millions have used up any resources that were available and once they do that they are taken off the list, they are still out of work and hurting. There’s to much evil in this country, the back biting, back stabbing, neighbor against neighbor. We are more alike than different.
        Vote!!!!

        up the hill
        airborne

        • Karolyn

          No SC. They’re corporations moving into NC. I live in lowly SC.

      • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

        Karolyn, are your related to Flushman (aka) Fartman or are you his Maiden in the toilet?

        • Robert S

          WIA Are you still smoking that peacepipe with the hair around it?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            No robert, he was informed that that was your own private stock!!!

    • refuse2lose

      I hate to say this but Americans will never live like they have been. We were living beyond our means,as was our governments. Everything was a lie,blown out of proportion by excess risk taken. We are paying the price now.

      The election next week is more than just about Obama and his radical agenda,it is about putting into place conservatives in local government that will put loyalty to their citizens b4 DC. Think about this when voting on Tuesday.

    • Randy G

      I worked hard all my life & all I got when being laid off is “Your single, you can afford it.” and I am still looking for a first girl friend because you have to be married with kids to get & keep a good job. which is the only way to get a girl friend/wife.

    • Slurry

      You are an idiot. The liars and hypocrites are conservative, religious and republican. Screw you

      • John Woodbury

        Wow dude, what use of fine logic, the O will proud of you. Get off your lazy, fat, ugly rear end and start working. Working for the commies is not a job, it is political payback. If you do not start working soon, you will regret it for a lifetime, mate. Change is in the wind, and it does not look so good for the givemes and their ‘caring’ party.

        • DaveH

          The ‘useful idiots’ like Slurry will be the first ones thrown under the bus after the socialists take over and impoverish our country.

    • Marie Mandel

      Jana, you are the only delusional one in this speech, you are completely brainwashed dear.

      • Kate8

        Marie, there are far more of us than there are of you.

      • Christin

        Marie,
        And I might add from reading several of your posts that you are quite an angry foul-mouthed woman.
        Turn the hate down a notch or two would ya?

  • Dan az

    As far as this state goes Jan brewer is going to make a clean sweep of it and we already know what she thinks of obumer!

    • DaveH

      Barry Hess would be better. Not for the government employees though.

      • Dan az

        Dave I got him marked!I get it! lol

        • DaveH

          I know you said that on a previous comment, Dan. Lol, yes I get it. And thank you for your support.

    • Wayne

      I feel sorry for the way the NObama administration, and the liberal courts are treating the folks in Arizona. I am sure in the end, this will all come back to haunt the NObama Administration. If we can just convince the people to vote for honest poiticians this country could get back on the right track again. After putting the politicians in office we definately need to track their voting record. I believe what we need is to require every politician runining for a political office, to fill out an application. This application should require all personal things, such as; are you a United States Citizen, a birth certificate should be attached, do you have any felony convictions, and etc. Before the politicians name is placed on the ballot, there should be a complete vetting of this persons background. This would eliminate a lot of problems now facing this country. If this had been reqired in 2008 there would not have been any question as to whether NObama is a citizen, or not. I hope some of you smart folks out will come up with a way that we can implement this “work application” for every politician. This application should be used from the local level, up to, and including the president of the United States, for all parties. This should be a requirement for all parties running for any political office. Does anyone else agree with me on this? I would like to hear your answers. The way our system is now the Republicans or Democrats can put anyones name on the ticket regardless whether that person has a felony record or not. Look at Marion Berry. He was arrested for selling crack cocaine and then got reelected back to be Mayor of Washington D. C. This is unbelievable and should never have happened. The people who voted for a man with a felony record would be, in my opinion, complete retards for voting for a man of this caliber to represent them.

      • William

        Wayne you are 110% correct,

      • Jana

        Wayned,
        Its almost like Obama has a personal vendetta against Arizona. They have dared to call out his name and demand he do his job, and he is mad. This is obviously what he calls “Punishing his eneemies”. He stated this just the other day on a campaign speech.

        • Jana

          Sorry I meant Wayne. Typing too fast here.

          • Wayne

            Jana, it is ok. I am a forgiving person. Ha. I make mistakes (typos) all the time.

      • DaveH

        So true, Wayne. The retarded Liberals want us to turn businesses into the immigration police with expensive background checks to thwart illegals from getting jobs, but they don’t even want a background check for the most powerful man in the country. Talk about hypocrisy.

      • Joyce from Loris

        Marion Berry was re-elected as mayor BY the crack heads that were purchasing drugs FROM him. He had a huge customer base!
        Our system is so broken, it will take years of diligence to fix it. I hope we are all up for the task. The welfare people of this country are NOT going to allow their checks to be taken away from them without a fight, and those of us who work and are SICK AND TIRED of handing our hard earned money over to dead beats have been so compliant that it may be too late for us.

        • Dan az

          Joyce
          There is a really easy way to get them all back to work.Make them work for what they receive that way they can get back into the swing of working again and then start looking for work that pays better and for a reference they could use the state to vouch for them. Some sort of tax break for the business since they would be saving them money wouldn’t hurt either.

      • yoohooti

        sounds like a great idea to if you can find a honest polititcian anymore that is coruptted by the educated idiots in WASHINGTON

        • Kate8

          All of the people running government are wealthy, largely off our backs. They are in fine shape now, and will be in fine shape in the days to come.

          Does anyone seriously think they give a rat’s behind about how WE live? They wake up in their mansions, fly around in jets at our expense, charge everything they eat and do to us, and pass legislation to bleed us further.

          They think about our hardship about as much as anyone spends time thinking about animals in feed lots. I would go as far as to say that most of them are part of this destruction of America, and couldn’t care less about suffering. They are deliberately orchestrating it, at the behest of foreign powers.

          No matter how bad times get for us, these creeps will continue to extract their pound of flesh from us. They will lose nothing, but will continue to party on our graves.

          • LeRoyZ

            Kate, your mention of flying around in jets has reminded me of a couple questions I’ve been thinking about lately. One is, I’m wondering if the new Speaker of the House will give back the airplane, and the other on is, “Are our Congresspersons going to continue to receive ‘death bonuses’ ala the $193,000.00 voted for the family of Robert Byrd just before Congress left for the midterm break, while at the same time the taxpayers’get a ‘death tax’ of up to 55%??

          • Kate8

            LeRoyZ – Congress and their cronies don’t live by the same laws they pass on the rest of us.

            They are exempt from taxes and have a different set of rules for themselves. Has anyone ever checked to see whether those Congressmen and czars who were exposed for not paying their taxes ever coughed it up? Not that I’ve seen.

            This is another outrage. Our kids lose everything to pay the death tax and their families get huge payoffs! And using OUR MONEY!

    • Al Sieber

      Dan, you got that right.

  • Viktor Leben

    Throw the Rascals Out !

    We might be voting some Republican “rascals” in. What ever happen to the Constitution Party Candidates ? Or the Libertarian Party candidates ?

    All I hear is how the Republicans are going to change things !! What a joke !

    • Claire

      All I can say is: Really “think” about the person you are voting for. Things could backfire on all of us.

      • Jana

        Claire,
        They could backfire on us, but it sure can’t get any worse. Obama wants to punish his enemies. That is you and me, since we don’t support his agenda. How much worse can we get? We desperately need to get people in to REPRESENT us, not dictate to us. We all know this is just a start, and its going to be a lot of work, but we can do it. We have to be as vigilant as they have been, and they have told us about as loud as anyone can shout it, they are our enemy and they consider us their enemy. Obama is not President of all, he went in to be President of a few, and punish the rest of us.

        • Claire

          Jana–I believe it could get worse. This is why I think we should all listen up and really think about some of these candidates. In reality, they are beginning to scare me off. Literally.

          • Al Sieber

            Clair, I feel the exact same way, it’s been bothering me for awhile.

          • Michael J.

            Claire,
            Being hesitant or slightly fearful of casting ones vote for the best candidate is far better than conplacency and unawareness.

          • Claire

            Michael J — Oh, I agree with your words alright. I just do not agree with or approve of the candidates that are running for office. I have listened to all of them and I don’t necessarily like what I hear. In some cases, I wonder about the mental stability.

    • s c

      VL, you spend WAY too much time in bars and brothels. You need to hang around with people who aren’t always in a ‘protected’ environment. Your friends tell you what you want to hear. And then you throw it back at us in the vain hope that we’ll listen to your drivel.
      Spend some of that money you ‘earn’ by being an Obummer parrot. Get yourself a ‘date’ for the evening, and show her (or him) how friendly you can be.
      You might meet someone who spends less time in those places than you do, comrade. Play your
      cards right, and you might get a chance to unionize some people who work in those bars and brothels. If you’re REAL lucky, you could wind up in Nevada, working around one of your icons [Harry Reid].

      • Strawberry Shortcake

        s c…Viktor is right, where are the Libertarians and Constitutionalists? Once again we are voting Republicans in and while some are worthy, most will not be. Look at Scott Brown. I just hope that even with more “conservatives” regaining most of the control we do not go back to sleep and think all is well. I think from here out we need to be on a permanent watch because the beast is not dead and I believe we are in for a long fight.

        • DaveH

          SC is going to keep on voting for the same old talking heads that have gotten us into this mess, just because they sport the title “Republican”. I remember when the citizens were very upset with the Democrat caused mess of the Jimmy Carter years. They went to their polling places and “saved” us with the RINO Republicans (the lesser of two evils). Note that I am making an exception for Ronald Reagan who was the greatest Republican in my lifetime (although he really was more Libertarian than Republican). Did it do any good? Not really. Government just kept growing. Because even Reagan was not strong enough to hold back his own Liberal Republicans.

          • Christin

            Dave H.,
            If we vote Republican we can unseat CA Dem Nancy Pelosi and NV Dem Harry Reid. The are the EVIL Rulers right now and we NEED to take back our country and we can not even begin to do that if those two are still in power.

            Only Jesus is PERFECT, my friend.

            We have to settle for the best choice right now… and we will be fortunate if we are even able to have elections that are on the up and up, but I see already they are being fraudulent in 2010 as they were in 2008.

            As far a Libertarians go… a vote for them (third party) is a vote for the Demoncrat… unless the libertarian had name recognition and big backing like from the Tea Party.
            If it was agreed by conservatives that the Libertarian was the good choice then so be it, but as I see it they are all unknowns, thus the demo wins.

          • DaveH

            No, Christin, the politicians win as long as people keep thinking that way. Don’t you get what I’m saying? We tried that approach 30 years ago. It didn’t work. It will probably never work because the Republican Party likes Big Government almost as much as do the Democrats. They just have a different agenda. And although they give lip service to it, Freedom is not on their agenda.

        • Christin

          You are right Strawberry Shortcake.

          Don’t know where all the libertarians are.

          Evidentally, we have a Libertarian running for Governor of Texas by the name of Kathie Glass, but I don’t knwo anything about her as I only learned about her in the Sept. Liberal “Houston Chronicle” newspaper that I was using to line my kittens’ catbox! I never heard her speak at a debate or rally.

          We all know what happens when we vote for a third party candidate that is not backed by a large group like the Tea Party… your vote goes to the Demoncrat.

          The Conservative Constitutionalist Candidates are the Tea Party favorites under the Republican banner.

          Our Country is MISSING Values and Principles… Honor and Integrity… people just doing the Right thing.

          …Like NOT Spending other peoples money… that goes for the Entitlement group, Progressive congress, and big spending Governors.

          • Jana

            Christin,
            I feel the same way.
            I did vote for several local libertarians. I did my research and looked them up on the net. Some were not found and I did not vote for them. If they are running as a candidate even for a minority party, then they need to be sincere and run effectively. In MHO they need to have the gumption to get out and make their name and ideas known. If they don’t run a decent campaign, then they aren’t even worth considering as they won’t do a good job in the office they are running for. We have enough lazy and worthless people in office now.

          • DaveH

            Gumption has nothing to do with it, Jana. It is difficult for Libertarians to get a name because up until Fox, the people who don’t want Free Markets have done their best to shut out our voices. Very few people understand the Libertarian platform. We need more recognition, and now thanks to Fox and the Internet we are getting more. If you don’t agree with our principles of Freedom, don’t vote for us. But if you do, the best bet for this countrys’ Freedom is for you to help us gain recognition, so we can win more seats.
            You throw away your votes when you vote for somebody who has no intention of shrinking Government. The Republicans may be able to win, but you can see by Arizona’s Republican primary choice of John McCain that they aren’t really interested in shrinking Government. And by voting for them, you give support to that. The lesser of two evils is still just evil.

          • Dan az

            Christin
            What Ron paul did was changed to republican so as not to loose the votes of those who where afraid to vote third party.If every libertarian did that it would solve the problem just add rep./libertarian to the ballet and they would get the votes that are needed.

          • Christin

            Dan AZ,

            Yes, if Libertarians went under the Republican Banner as the Constitutional Conservative Tea Party folks running this time around are doing then the Libertarian WOULD probably WIN!!!

            I would vote for them if they had good conservative ideals.

            I voted for a third party candidate ONCE as did many others and got burned… the Demo won. I thought maybe I wasted my vote. I now know both the Demo and Repub (that I did not vote for) are NWO folks so my vote was good, but the corrupt system won’t allow the third party candidate to win.

            You are right, there are a LOT of Libertarians on FOX… and that is good to promote that Party.
            I like that Libertarians like SMALL gov and more Freedom… get out of the way, and don’t tell us what to do, and be VERY limited.
            Do they want to follow the American Constitution?

            The problem I have with Libertarians is they say it is okay for people to have conflicting lifestyles and live sinfully as it doesn’t affect you or everyone else, but it does. For instance gov under Libertarians wouldn’t tell you “you can’t smoke pot” or “what you do in your own bedroom is your business.” But those things do effect EVERYONE ELSE. Smokers will push their pot on others and kids will be stoners not achieving anything and “in the bedroom anything goes” can be bad if it is not God’s way as gays, bisexuals, transvestites, pediphiles…. are ALL Liberal and will vote Democrat.

            So if we do not follow the Rule of Law, and The Constitution, and the Ten Commandments given by God …our society will AGAIN end up here, where we are today with the Godless (marxists) taking over the God based (Capitalistic) America that we were founded on.

            That is why I think “Constitutional Conservatives” are best, but DC is BROKEN and CORRUPT and I don’t know if anyone not in the Establishment will win or survive.
            Do you see my point, Dan?

        • JC

          Libertarians don’t get Federal funding, and they’re too honest for corporate funding.

    • William

      viktor the biggest and cruelest joke on the American people was played last election day by a bunch of IDIOTS who fell for obummers hope and change CRAPP. any time a person promises chang without specifying. then you should expect the worst,

      • Karolyn

        Change does not happen overnight. But you don’t want change anyway, right? You want things to go backwards.

        • yoohooti

          things HAVE been going backwards since 2008

          • Craig

            No, things have been going downhill since the chocolate Marxist took office.

        • Jana

          Karloyn,
          The change we wanted was honesty. Obama has NOT been honest with us. The change we wanted and what he promised was an open administration. There have been more backroom deals and dishonesty since he became Pres. than ever before. We all hoped he would be a man of his word,. but he has not been. Hmmm, another word for that is a liar.

          Now we find that he is talking about anyone not agreeing with him is his enemy and should be punished. And people get mad when Hitler comes to mind.

          • Karolyn

            Is it possible for ANYBODY to maintain their equilibrium once they get to Washington?

          • Jana

            Karolyn,
            Probably not, thats why we need to keep rotating them with our votes.
            However seeing what Obama has done from the very start, we know he was lying to us from the start.

        • Teresa

          Karolyn, I have a question for you? Do you as a legal citizen of America believe in the US Constitution and what it stands for? Do you truly believe every word of it? Have you ever took the time to read the Constitution? If so, you need to think long and hard before you answer that…now really think….

        • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

          Karolyn, voting out Progressive/Communist Democrats and Republican Rhinos is not moving backward. It’s called ” Liberation from Big Government “.

        • DaveH

          Yes, I want to go backwards, Karolyn. Backwards to prosperity. Not Forward to income redistribution. If you want that, try Venezuela.

        • Kate8

          Karolyn, No sane person wants the kind of change your Usurper is forcing down our throats. It has NEVER worked before, and it will not work now. If he succeeds in his agenda, there will be a lot blood on American soil.

    • louise

      I don’t know whether the Republicians will make any difference but
      at least we know what the ones in there are. Obama lovers, and stupid!

    • Lewis Munn

      The other parties are there. They have been all along.

      But the Media never give them the time of day or an inch of media coverage. Unless it is to deride them and poke fun at their ideas, most of which are good ideas for good government if they were honestly presented!

      Look at the current big tarring of one group for an assault, without checking all the things that went into it. It was unfortunate, but the whole movement is ridiculed for one assault; how many assaults have happened with major party people and never made a line of print or a word on the TV? Goon squads are just accepted as part of big politics…right?

      When the illegals paraded in Washington, and assaulted a media reporter, it was hardly noticed. And Our President merely watched all the illegals go by! No arrests of those who were in the US illegally and paraded that in public!!

      We need the government to enforce laws including immigration, but we keep electing those who will not.

      By voting for politicians who believe in breaking the laws for their own profits, and stomping the smaller parties who have sincere answers but are suppressed by the media…well, we are reaping what we have sown.

      I do not think there is any question of what is going one. I just wonder how anybody can let this go on and then wonder at the results we get? If they are alert, thinking individuals.

      Look back to Chester Arthur’s Presidency, for one rather horrible example!

    • Wayne

      Viktor, when ever your representatives is voted in, I hope you and all the others watch him like a hungry hawk would watch its prey. Throw him out of office in 2, 4, or 6 years, depending his term of office. We have to get rid of all those bad politicians.

  • Teresa

    THE SIMPLE TRUTH:
    You know I am a simple person from a simple family…I have native American roots and my fathers family was traced back to Robert Davis of whom was here 40yr before the Mayflower. My entire family has served and fought for this country so that “WE” shall have our individual freedom. My grandmother always told me speak simple and speak true and honest, do not sugar coat. You do not owe anyone unless they work for you and nobody owes you anything in this world, but you give out of love not greed for the reward is great! You see, when you look at a person you do not judge them by their clothes, their way of twisting words, their choice of college…their character is their true definition of that person. Yes we all as Americans have fell short to an extent in our current state for we were blind to our congress, judges, president, our leaders in whole. WE THE PEOPLE all have to take responsibility and stand together to change the nation we live in. We do have to get back to the basics if we want our children to prosper. I am a single mother and I would stand and fight satan himself for my child, as any parent would. In todays economy is almost impossible. Stastics show that the avg. income is around 45,000. or so…which I must be way below stastics for after taxes I am only bringing home less than 18,000…I live in a state that has no state taxes and our rent is less than most states but I still pay the same bills as everyone else…now consider this…my health insurance I was just informed will be rising from 21.00 a week to 69.86 thanks to the new health care reform. So, I have to tell you in simple terms…how much more CAN we as Americans take? If we are buying oil from a country for 70.00 a barrel sell them pork or wheat for 70.00 a barrel not 4.00. I believe in helping others in time of need, feeding the needy, but children here are starving. If this country ever expects to get out of debt, they need to quit pasifying the other countries and start here at HOME…this is where we need it!

    • Barb

      Well said and you are so right on so many levels! Good post!

    • TIME

      Teresa,

      A well written post, thanks.

    • William

      Teresa you are so right. I too have native american roots. Cherokee. and I was raised on a farm till I joined the Army at the ripe old age of 16. turned 16 in october 1951. joined november 1951,

    • DaveH

      You are a good woman, Teresa. Keep up the good fight.

    • yoohooti

      amen to that

    • Christin

      Teresa,
      Great down to Earth thoughts… thanks for sharing them.

      Buying oil from the Middle East countries is nothing more that REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH. We are making them filthy rich.

      And YES, we have plenty of gas AND oil resources here IN America, but then that would make us rich… Progressives can’t have us successful and prosperoous… they don’t want that. They want to force us to our knees and break us… so we can succumb to the NWO.

      Looks like it is time to get on our knees folks and Pray to our Almighty God. He is all powerful and still in control.

    • Wayne

      Teresa, I couldn’t have said it any better. Thanks for you well written post.

    • Al Sieber

      Good one Teresa, that’s the way I was raised.

    • KimM

      Excellent post!! Thanks Teresa

  • Mick

    Viktor Leben says:
    October 29, 2010 at 6:43 am
    Throw the Rascals Out !

    We might be voting some Republican “rascals” in. What ever happen to the Constitution Party Candidates ? Or the Libertarian Party candidates ?

    All I hear is how the Republicans are going to change things !! What a joke !
    *********************************
    Viktor ,,,If the republicans go back to their true conservative ways and stop compromising their principles simply to be politically correct America still stand a chance, if they haven’t learn from the Democrat’s debacle, they will need to be kicked to the curb as well……..Time will tell but once thing isn’t to be ignored, The democrats are pure poison for this country and people better wake-up to that fact………

    • William

      Mick. you are sooo right about the dumocrats being poison. but there are still so many IDIOTS who are brain washed into thinking they are so great because they STEAL from those of us who are willing to work to give to the sorry scumbags who think we owe them a life of ease so they can sit around on their sorry asses doing drugs,

  • http://derrick-lewis.blogspot.com/ Derrick

    Well Chip, may I call you Chop okay find we have to deal with the hand we are dealt in life I voted for Obamanomics myself had no idea all these things would happen but I came to a realization about this for the first thing he has no power like we think he has most of the power are people around him in the background puppet and puppeteer is what the situation is so this is sort of like JFK situation but the only thing I seem to agree with is that he cut NASA’s budget that is something I have to agree with 100% after that I felt I could breathe a little but there is much more then what we imagine going on in my opinion the Healthcare thing is something we need but we don’t need Government controlling everything because we see whats going on in China and Burma, once Government controls everything these things can happen but when we look at the situation most people just don’t want a man of color representing our nation, my opinion does not matter I think that when Clinton was in office things were smoothly operated but if Hillary gets in office. I have a hunch she will ruin it all as well but she is the only person I see fit for the occasion. Scara Palin is not going to do anything but follow the Bush’s rule and keep us in the dark she don’t know anymore about running a country, it’s like calling a plumber to fix a transmission this is what happens when you take chances. Bush did not do this all by himself if he did think about it why would we as a nation go after Saddam and we were suppose to be going after Bin Laden this made no sense at all and we never know how to read between lines. We are in the dark and this is what has been going on for the past years.

    I don’t trust no political leaders at all none of them are in our best interest, we need to wipe out all the trash and start over all of them are crooks, our treasury dept recently gave 400 Oz Troy Gold Bars to China and turns out they were fake gold Bars, and this is insane so this means the price of gold is high and now everyone needs to stack up on it. Never a honest nation what is going to happen to America?

    • William

      derrick. get off the KOOLAID. nothing you say makes a damned bit of sense. the only time the clinton administration ran smooth was the last four years when the Republicans controlled the house. the last two years of the Bush administration was controlled by the dumbocrats,

    • Karolyn

      Speaking of Palin, I just heard she’s going to have a reality show. I just can’t believe her and her circus. And then she still says she would pick up the ball and run if there was nobody else with her views running in ’12. Wouldn’t that be fun? A reality show about Pres. Palin in the White House. What a joke she is.

      • Wayne

        Karolyn, don’t be so jealous. She is a country girl. She is honest and she would make a great president.

        • http://msn.com LeRoy Lyons

          Palin would be a good president!She is honest and that puts her ahead of what we have And she is for free America!!!!I think she would clean up the White House to!!!

          • Karolyn

            Because she’s “pl;ain spoken” makes her honest?

          • Marie Mandel

            What is a free America?

        • Claire

          Palin is okay, I guess. But I still keep hoping for a woman like Margaret Thatcher.
          And hell no, I am not jealous, so no one can pin that label on me. I love my life. I am just trying to seek some sanity in this crazy mixed-up chaos.

        • Craig

          Honesty is not a trait liberals think is a good quality in a politician.

      • Teresa

        Oh green is your perfect color isn’t it…

        • Karolyn

          You have got to be kidding me! I am perfectly happy with myself and my life, thank you very much! Why on earth would I want her life?

          • Teresa

            No Karolyn, I don’t think you are happy with your life…you show signs of anger and weakness in your character in your statements. You see, you get angry because of personal quotations..it’s all about YOU. We are angry as a whole, about where our Nation is going, that’s the difference Karolyn.

          • Karolyn

            Thank you Dr. Teresa for the analysis.

          • Michael J.

            Teresa,
            Thanks, I’d say you hit that nail squarely on the head.

      • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

        Karolyn, Show us how good you really are and start your 2012 campaign.

      • Kate8

        Karolyn, What is wrong with embracing life and going for the gusto? The democrats tried to destroy Sarah, and all they did was cause new doors of opportunity to open to her and her family.

        I don’t blame her for pursuing life outside of DC. She can still be a patriot and inspire us forward whether she runs for office or not. I’m glad to see her having a good time and following her joy. And making some serious money while she’s doing it! Good for her.

        Why is it that democrats can do anything and libs utter nary a peep. But let a conservative step outside the box (or stay IN the box, for that matter) and all they get is berated.

        I’d do the same thing if it were me in her shoes.

  • Gary Frasier Gloversville, N.Y.

    Folks we now live in the “United States of Wall Street”. Nothing will change until the money (our Money) is taken out of the equasion.Have we already forgotten about the billions of Dollars (our Dollars) that was turned over to the Wall Street thugs because they were “To Big to Fail”. But we weren’t to big to fail were we?

    • Al Sieber

      Gary Fraiser, wait until after the up coming Fed. Reserve Meeting Nov.2-3, and watch for hyperinflation to start. Bernanke will be printing up money like it’s going out of style.

      • HFlashman

        Al….don’t quit your day job.

        • DaveH

          The difference between you and Al, Flash? Al believes in voluntary contracts and work to make his money. You believe in getting together with your gang of thieves and taking it from others. Oh yeah, I know, they don’t deserve their high pay. If you believe that then start your own company and undercut them. It’s called competition. Something you Liberals try to stifle.

          • Al Sieber

            DaveH, thanks, thats how I get work and sometimes it’s tough with some employees who won’t work. I think “Flashman” likes to deny the truth, or is just plain ignorant.

        • Craig

          At least he has a job and is not a moocher like you libtards.

  • Tom

    The elections on Nov. 2 are just one small step on the long journey to national sanity on which we have tentatively embarked. I strongly suspect that, given my current age, I will not be able to live long enough to see where the United States is as a nation at the end of the long, difficult journey that is ahead of us.

    The republic, a union, or a partnership of fifty states with a federal government as the fifty-first partner, may not arrive intact at the end of the journey. The fifty-first partner has forgotten its role in the partnership and has begun to see itself as the managing general partner or some such.

    Members of Congress must find a use for The Constitution other than for conducting swearing-in ceremonies.

    The federal government in Washington is much nearer to self-destructing than the majority of people would be willing to acknowledge. In fact, early on in the 112th Congress, perhaps the 535 members as a collective bunch should take a short field trip over to Arlington to begin the process of selecting the most appropriate burial site for Uncle Sam. Perhaps that should be done as the first order of business before beginning the next act of the long-running clown show and before the next inning of their silly damned intramural fantasy league political game.

    Hang on tight! The road ahead is likely to be a really rough ride; rough enough that it may very well shake this nation apart at the seams.

    • Wayne

      We definitely need term limits in Congress. They should not serve over two terms. Career politicians tend to become to comfy, and dishonest when they are careen politicians. It is going to have to be we, the people, who enforce this, politicians will not. Just vote them out after two terms.

      • DaveH

        Wayne, Term Limits sound comfy, like a nice warm blanket, but they are just a band-aid.
        Imagine if we had term limits on all the current Democrats. How do you think they’d vote, knowing they didn’t have to answer to the voters?
        And if the voters don’t start learning about economics and why Big Government doesn’t work, they will just put another incompetent, self-serving politician in office. There is no substitute for educated active voters.

  • Dr. Mabuse

    You know I really hate being a lightning rod. But the simple fact is that most of you have no idea of which “rascals” to throw out, nor the testicular fortitude to accomplish this feat. Its far easier for you to bash Barry O, its almost orgasmic for some of y’all. Marxist this, Socialist that, the left is delusional, liberalism is a mental disorder (ala Michael Wiener). A question: Who is worse… a fascist or a socialist? Perhaps you should take a look at COG (Continuity of Government) and then you can tell again how great Bush and Cheney were for this country. Personally, I can’t wait until you recognize who the true rascals are. Why would you take the Devil as your friend (whether he be a teabagger, indie, repub or dem) when he is your sworn enemy?

    • texastuxguy

      JUst being the party of No here? Could you say something constructive?

      • Jana

        Dr. Mabuse,
        Have you ever heard the expression of an educated idiot? What you are espousing sure fits that description.
        Obama has proudly announced that he has always been enamored by the Socialist and Communist and Marxist ideologies and has surrounded himself with these people. He sought them out as a teenage, and he still surrounds himself with them. He embraces these ideologies and is trying to turn our country into his ideal.

        • DaveH

          Jana,
          He is one of ours. If we turn on each other, what chance do you think we have? Besides that, he is right. The Republicans have been complicit in building Government since I’ve been politically aware, with the exception of a very few like Reagan or Ron Paul (both really Libertarians). How can we ever get our Freedom back if we keep electing the same kind of people that helped take it away in the first place?

          • Jana

            DaveH,
            He may be for us but he sure doesn’t sound like it. He sounds like he thinks he is above us and a smart alec to boot.

          • Jana

            Dave H,
            When he stated
            ” But the simple fact is that most of you have no idea of which “rascals” to throw out, nor the testicular fortitude to accomplish this feat. Its far easier for you to bash Barry O, its almost orgasmic for some of y’all. Marxist this, Socialist that, the left is delusional, liberalism is a mental disorder (ala Michael Wiener). A question: Who is worse… a fascist or a socialist?”

            Someone who says something like this without making himself clear is just not as smart as he thinks he is.

          • DaveH

            Yes, Jana, his sentence structure was confusing, but he ended with “Why would you take the Devil as your friend (whether he be a teabagger, indie, repub or dem) when he is your sworn enemy?”
            And I am going by his previous comments on other Web pages, where in my mind he demonstrated a pretty good grasp of reality.

    • Dale on left coast

      Doc . . . fascists are socialists. Fascism was invented by Mussolini, a devout socialist. He thought the comunists were far to harsh . . . but being a devout follower of Marx and Engles, Mussolini developed a softer form of comunism, called fascism. Winston Churchill was a Conservative . . . Mussolini was far left of Churchill, but slightly to the right of Stalin. You lefties are so adept at distorting history.

      • DaveH

        Doc is not a lefty, Dale.
        And Fascism is not Socialism. With Fascism the Government works with favored corporations (crony capitalists) and heavily regulates the economy. With Socialism the Government owns the means of production. They are the same only in the sense that both require strong Government control of the people (akin to tyranny).

    • Wayne

      Dr. we do not need your credential to have common sense. It seems that the upper class can’t look down, and see what is happening below them. However, we, the common folks can look up and see what is happening, and we don’t like what we see. We are going to make some changes to this country. We are going to take this country back and demand that our politicians listen to the majority instead of the minority groups that seem to squeal the loudest. I guess it is because the silent majority are all working and don’t have the time to squeal as to the minority groups. Wake up America, let’s bring our country back to its founding principles and to the Conmstitution. This is the way I see it. I think the majority sees it this way also.

    • Teresa

      Like I said, you like to “sugar coat” your words and think you are above us. There is the difference, you see WE are the foundation of this great country and we do NOT need someone to tell us how to think, how to “re-distribute” our money, how to tolerate others, how to speak and definitely not how to believe in our religion. It sir is because of people like us that there IS even a government…do you understand that statement? Do you really understand it’s true meaning! That is the difference…you actually DO think some are better than others, that is the thinking of Obama and his associates. You all feel threatened because WE actually do know the difference and the rights of the Constitution, the Constitution that WE all are created equally, that WE fought and are still fighting for.

  • Pat

    My great-grandfather Patrick O’Malley came to the USA from County Cork, Ireland. He settled in Ohio and worked in the Steel Mills. The Irish were called “Shanty Irish ” or in todays language “Ghetto “. But,with one big difference, the Irish asked for nothing, work hard, parents stayed together and raised families. Four generations of Patrick’s family worked in the Steel mills, with myself being the last.Simple hard work and faith in God and Country has always been the American way.If someone even suggested the idea of redistribution of wealth to my great-grandfather they would have to deal with a strong right hook.

    • Mick

      Pat says:
      October 29, 2010 at 10:06 am
      My great-grandfather Patrick O’Malley came to the USA from County Cork, Ireland. He settled in Ohio and worked in the Steel Mills. The Irish were called “Shanty Irish ” or in todays language “Ghetto “. But,with one big difference, the Irish asked for nothing, work hard, parents stayed together and raised families. Four generations of Patrick’s family worked in the Steel mills, with myself being the last.Simple hard work and faith in God and Country has always been the American way.If someone even suggested the idea of redistribution of wealth to my great-grandfather they would have to deal with a strong right hook.
      *********************
      Pat …….Those were the good old days were people were taking care of themselves without so much Government intervention.
      A simple handshake was a contract and a simple punch in the nose with the promise or more to come if that contract was broken was pretty much the extent of the drama,,
      Then came progress and educated fools the democrats like to take credit for, Lawyers, Unethical doctors, crooked judges and all of the human right organizations…….And here we are,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

      • Pat

        Mick,
        You have correctly addressed the good old days when a handshake confirmed an agreement and a punch in the nose solved most problems.But you are wrong about the present and the future. Not all lawyers or doctors are liberal democrats. The very idea of the immigrants who came too America was for there children and grandchildren to become lawyers and doctors, not steelworkers. My daughter is a attorney and my future son-in law is a judge.Neither is a democrat.

        • Mick

          Pat says:
          October 29, 2010 at 11:22 am
          Mick,
          You have correctly addressed the good old days when a handshake confirmed an agreement and a punch in the nose solved most problems.But you are wrong about the present and the future. Not all lawyers or doctors are liberal democrats. The very idea of the immigrants who came too America was for there children and grandchildren to become lawyers and doctors, not steelworkers. My daughter is a attorney and my future son-in law is a judge.Neither is a democrat.
          **********************************************
          Pat ….You’re right ,I should never put everyone in the same bag..
          We still have some good doctors and some good lawyers but they’re so damn hard to find.
          I am glad to see that some members of your family have retained some common sense..
          As for your take on immigrants coming to America for their children and grand children to become lawyers and doctors I frown on a bit, it take more than just doctors and lawyers to create a good society.
          I believe most immigrants came to America for a better life and to escape some of their Governments oppression and for the opportunity to succeed which doesn’t necessarily mean to have a profession,,There are plenty simple jobs just as respectable as so called professions…

          • Pat

            Mick,

            I believe you have a problem with educated professionals, in our society. I do not,as I have known many successful individuals in my lifetime,many highly educated and some without a high school diploma.
            Those without the education have succeeded in starting there own businesses. However, all of them have wanted more for there children in the form of education. All working individuals contribute to the good of our country.I know more good lawyers and doctors, than bad. Where do you live that seems to have so many poorly informed professionals ?

          • http://yahoo Robert

            Wake up! Those days are gone. There ARE NOT any jobs here, due to Reagan starting the war, on America’s workers. This started the largest transfer of money, to the rich. The steel, mining, and auto industries, where people with out education could get meaning jobs, are gone. The only jobs left, are service.

          • DaveH

            Ah, the magic of envy. It clouds the minds of even intelligent people. While the Government robs us blind, those with the clouded minds blame anybody but the real source of our impoverishment, Big Government. They spend 37% of our GDP. You don’t think that does any damage to the economy? Not only that, but there is the hidden tax of inflation, and the hidden tax bestowed on our economy by stifling regulations.
            You are watching the wrong hand!

        • Wayne

          Pat, we are glad yours turned out ok. But, you have to admit that there are a lot of crooked judges, attornys, and other professionals out there. There are good one too, I’ll agree that, but the bad ones seem to drag the name of the good ones down. If the good ones are able to, they are going to have to clean out those bad ones. I liken this to throwing all the rotten apples out of the barrel before they have a chance to spoil all the good ones.

          • Pat

            Robert,
            Wake up those jobs are gone! Maybe so, but Ronald Reagan had nothing to do with it! We have done away with these high paying ( Union ) jobs all by ourselves. Robert how is that Toyota working out for you? I do not know what kind of car you drive, but a logical guess is that you drive a foreign car. Guess what killed our steel and auto industries? No politician either democrat or republican forced anyone to purchase foreign cars, appliances, construction equipment, or any other steel related products! You dumb asses have caused it by yourselves.

          • Jana

            It wasn’t Reagan, it is the unions. If the unions were truly for the little man like they claim then why are their Presidents or whatever they are called so crooked and so rich?

          • Vigilant

            Pat and jana,

            You’re both right. The migration of jobs to overseas areas was a combination of things.

            Manufacturing is a “dirty” industry. OSHA, EPA and other “big gubment” jerks regulated, fined, taxed and overpaperworked these industries to a ridiculous point, making the cost of doing business in the US prohibitive beyond measure.

            The unions killed (and are still killing) US industry by demanding wages and benefits that are disproportionate to the value (and quality) of the products made. Some years ago, they priced their products not just out of overseas markets, but out of their own domestic market as well.

            Add to this the fact that corporate taxes in the US are the highest of all indutrialized nations, and you can begin to see why things are the way they are.

            It’s no accident that Reagan’s relaxation of onerous government requirements on industry, as well as lowering taxes, ushered in the longest sustained period of prosperity in US history, something the left is loathe to talk about.

          • Claire

            Pat–I am inclined to agree with you.

          • DaveH

            Good points, Vigilant.

  • Orie

    We’ve already gone through nearly 2 years of the so called OPR axis
    (Obama-Pelosi-Reid) Remember an old Spaniard adage: “If this is the sample, please don’t open the package!” Are we going to risk two more years down the road for their ‘indecent proposal’ to somehow work it all out? As it is now, it’s taking us nowhere but down. Don’t allow America to be the land of experiment rather than OPPORTUNITY! The new 110th (liberal) Congress has only added nearly 4.5 trillions to the national debt since 2007. That’s -by any standards- unacceptable. As Chip Woods put it, “let’s kick the rascals out”. I’ve always believed in the American people’s wisdom and common sense. Let everyone remember that just in case they might’ve forgotten. Aside from my comments, I must confess that it frightens me the fact that an American president (ironically) bears a full Muslem-origin name in times like these. Is it purely coincidental or perhaps related to just fate, even prophecy? You decide. It just scares the hell out of me.

  • Neil A. Dixon

    Why do we keep saying “socialist” or “progressive” when talking about Mr. Obama and his comrads? If anyone out there has had even beginning college political science 101, he knows that the actions and agenda of Mr. Obama and his minions has been one of Marxism and Communism. Using labels such as “progressive” or “socialist” is merely putting sugar coating on what people seem to refrain from saying. Their intentions are quite clear even though they have tried to obsfuscate them. Their intentions come through in their words “make fair” or “spread the wealth around.” I would think the refugees or their children that fled from the U.S.S.R. or any communist state to come to the land of opportunity must be quaking in fear. They know what these people are and know what they would do if they had enough power. Hopefully we do cut into their plans on Tuesday the 2nd but we can’t stop there. A vigilant fight must be waged from that point on because even a landslide against them will not be enough to stop them immediately. Every aspect of American life will have to be won back one portion at a time.

  • http://N/A wILL

    yOU ARE RIGHT AND I HAVE SEEN THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS IN THIS COUNTRY COMPLETELY FAIL US. I TAUGHT SCHOOL FOR 30 YRS IN THE PUBLIC(NOW GOVERNMENT) RUN SCHOOLS AND THAT IS WHY ALL OF OUR GRANDCHILDREN ARE BEING HOME SCHOOLED. THE SCHOOLS ARE THE WORSE DENS OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS TO THE POINT OF DISTORTING OUR HISTORY AND POISONING OUR CHILDREN’S MINDS WITH ALL SORTS OF LIBERAL/COMMUNISTS AND EVEN TRASH/GUTTER THINKING WITH PUNISHMENTS IN PLACE FOR ANY QUESTIONING OR NON-ACCEPTANCE BY THE STUDENT. EVEN SOL’S ARE POLITICALLY CORRECT TO THE POINT OF PUSHING LIES AND DISTORTIONS. I HAVE SEEN AS THE PUBLIC SLEEPS THEIR CHILDREN ARE BEING TURNED AGAINST THEIR OWN HERETAGE AND TRUTH, AND THEY ARE BEING TAUGHT WHAT TO THINK NOT ‘HOW TO THINK’.

    • Wayne

      Will, you have been there, and done that. I hold your comment in high esteem since I know you khow what your talking about. However, the liberal will let his slip off their back like water on a duck. They cannot see beyond their fingertips. I was in law enforcement for 30 years and I had also worked around all kinds of people. When you were through with the bad students we had to deal with them later. I, for one, despise all the political correctness. I speak my mind. I say Merry Christmas, not Happy Holidays. I call a spade a spade. I don’t write Christman such as Xmas. I try my best to be the type person as the people were when this country was formed. I believe in values, principles, honesty and all the rest. It is too bad that our government has taken all this out of the school system. It not only made your job harder, but it makes law enforcement’s jobs harder as well. We had a teacher friend who taught for 24 years and then took a buy out. I think that is what she called it. She was tickled to death to get out away from all those nasty kids, and some of the hasty parents who would stick up for their kid rowdy behavious, or what ever they would do. Thanks for sticking in there for so long. You deserve a pat on the back.

      • Vigilant

        Will and Wayne,

        Thank you both for your service. Your postings are encouraging in the sense that I know there are still real Americans who love their country and still want it to fulfill the promises of the Founding Fathers.

        • Wayne

          Thank you very much for the nice comment, Vigilant. I am a country born boy that knows what hard work is all about. Besides, my parents taught me the Golden Rule of; do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I still hold that concept to be true. I have worked hard from a kid up, so I know the value of hard work.

  • Mick

    Dr. Mabuse says:
    October 29, 2010 at 10:03 am
    You know I really hate being a lightning rod. But the simple fact is that most of you have no idea of which “rascals” to throw out, nor the testicular fortitude to accomplish this feat. Its far easier for you to bash Barry O, its almost orgasmic for some of y’all. Marxist this, Socialist that, the left is delusional, liberalism is a mental disorder (ala Michael Wiener). A question: Who is worse… a fascist or a socialist? Perhaps you should take a look at COG (Continuity of Government) and then you can tell again how great Bush and Cheney were for this country. Personally, I can’t wait until you recognize who the true rascals are. Why would you take the Devil as your friend (whether he be a teabagger, indie, repub or dem) when he is your sworn enemy?

    ****************************************************
    Dr. Mabuse…………The true friends America has are ethics and honesty which have been abandoned for too many years,most of our others friends are either fighting over seas with their hands tied behind their back and who are also being deprived of their rights to vote and many of the remaining group of our service men and women are not being reconized properly by our society.
    As our dear president said to the latinos group he was trying to recruit ” get out there and punish your enemies ”
    With just that in mind, who do you think is the real enemy there ???

  • Janice Fortin

    “orgasmic” Doctor? really! Have you been on HARD BALL lately? Bush was no prize, but the weapon of mass destruction is now sitting in the white house. Anyone with one oz of any common sense recognizes it
    and you don’t have to be Einstein, Doc. THIS IS TYRANNY. Have you heard the czars speak at all? And you do know, huh Doc, they are NOT accountable to YOU or any other American alive, except the very questionable American? in that white house? Doctor, do you even vaguely realize the meaning that president respects the Chinese flag he planted on the white house lawn more than the AMERICAN ONE? that he has allowed muslims “dispensation” from OBAMACARE? Allowed muslims to pray in public street when AMERICA HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY AND CANNOT PLACE A RELIGIOUS OBJECT IN ANY PUBLIC PLACE? That he has in fact and ILLEGALLY encouraged 11 FOREIGN COUNTRIES to take court action against a STATE OF AMERICA OF WHICH HE HAS TAKEN AN OATH TO DEFEND AGAINST INVASION? NOVEMBER 2 IS TAKE OUT THE TRASH DAY AND LET’S SEE YOU DO IT, AMERICA!

    • http://yahoo Robert

      Remember the freedom of speech, part of the constitution? American’s are not all Christians.

      • Christin

        No, but you seem to ENJOY the Freedoms, Liberties and Rights endowed by our CREATOR given to you as stated in the Declaration of Independance, Federalist Papers and and set up in the Constitution of the United States Of America…
        … or should I say “gave” you, because Godless Progressives have taken over and it looks like we will not able to keep the Republic we were given.

        Are you on God’s side, Robert, or satan’s… you must chose???

        • Karolyn

          People can believe in God and not be Christian.

          • Vigilant

            I thought you said you believed in reincarnation in another post.

          • Karolyn

            Yes I do, but that does not preclue a belief in God. Not believing everything the Bible says (or the interpretations thereof) does not mean a person doesn’t believe in God.

          • Vigilant

            Agreed.

          • Christin

            Karolyn & Vigilant,

            The Bible is NOT a Cafeteria.
            You can’t just go through the Holy Bible, the inhierant word of God… God Breathed… and say: I like this book, but not that verse, I believe that Chapter, but don’t believe that biblical person ever lived or event ever happened.

            You either Believe the Whole Bible or Not. Just believing in God does not get you saved/born again or to Heaven. Satan believes in God! And he is NOT going to Heaven. Muhammed believed in Allah, but he is NOT in heaven. Native American Indians believe in the Great Spirit. Many societies believe in a higher power.

            A Christian is a Christ Follower:
            *Christians believe in God, the Father, Creator of the Heavens and the Earth.
            *Christians believe that Jesus, The Christ- the Son of God, was born of the virgin Mary, died on the Cross for EVERYONES sins… past, present, and future,… and rose on the third day and is seated on the Right hand side of God.
            *Christians believe that when you chose to repent of your sins and ask Jesus to come into your heart to be the Lord of your life your name is written in the Book of Life in Heaven, ALL the Angels rejoice, and the Holy Spirit lives in you until the day of redemption. (You can not be demon posessed as you are filled with the Holy Spirit.)

            If you choose the Holy Bible, and the Trinity: God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit you have aligned yourself with God…

            …the rest of you (who deny the those above) have aligned yourself with the devil, aka satan/ the fallen angel, Lucifer and his copycat trinity: The Beast, Anti-Christ, and the False Prophet.

            It is as simple as that, my friends.

          • Vigilant

            Well, Karolyn, it looks like we are in the same boat here, which doesn’t often happen (:-)

            Not to worry; by Christin’s definition, the Founders themselves were Luciferians.

    • Marie Mandel

      Why don’t you admit it, that Mr Obama only sin is being black, that is really your problem. You are a bigot and a racist, and that is the bottom line with most of you and you call yourselves christians. Shame on you!

      • libertytrain

        Good grief – the race card again and again, please try something a little fresh and real that could be debated.

  • Howard R Gray

    It will be great when enough of “them” are out of the doors of the legislature. That being said, there will be much more to do to keep them out for a generation or more. There has always been a ballet between the takers and the makers, that never changes but the ratio between them does. Next week will change the balance for the better. Remember, it is never permanent eternal vigilance is essential, freedom isn’t free we must ensure that the takers are kept out of the trough.

    Socialism has been the clarion call of the left for over 100 years and more, when it succeeds the outcome is never good. Nation after nation that adopts the vices of social burglary declines into the slough of despond to quote John Buchan. On polling day you have the power to prevent that decline; go out and vote “them” out of office.

    Put into office those who understand that excessive laws, regulation, taxation and inflation kills the wealth of the nation. It really is the time to shut down as much as possible of the kleptocracy, though that will take a lifetime to put right, at least start the process next week. That old Vulcan promise “live long and prosper” isn’t such a bad idea but we have to contribute to the process, that’s a permanent duty. Go vote!

    • Karolyn

      Socialism has done just fine in other countries like Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Holland, Austria, etc.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Have a nice trip karaolyn!!!

        • http://yahoo Robert

          Karolyn is correct.

        • Teresa

          ha ha, AMEN

        • Karolyn

          I would be nice to live in a country where the feeling is “One for all and all for one” instead of a divisive country like this one.

          • Claire

            Karolyn: It is too bad you are upset with our great country. I never want to live in another country. I have never had the desire to leave America. I will be loyal to America and all Americans (excluding politicians) until the day I die. Yes, Americans are divided. We can thank the “noble” politicians for this. Democrats as well as Republicans. Neither party is without fault. We can also thank the MSM, the radical talk show hosts, and the spreaders of garbage. As far as I am concerned this has all been a trap to set the minds of Americans into believing the way they want us to believe. I really think the “goal” was to set us all up to be fighting amongst ourselves. They are all chortling with glee because they know they have accomplished what they set out to do. They know they have upset the hell out of all of us, and that is exactly what they wanted to happen. I will remain neutral, I will not be swayed by any of these so-called idiots. The Democrats are no better than the Republicans and vice versa. I will be voting for a Libertarian and an Independent. Sorry folks, but until such time decent politicians run for an office, I will not be voting for the lesser of two evils. And when a person really stops and thinks about it, this is what we will be doing come Tuesday.

          • Vigilant

            Karolyn,

            “I[t] would be nice to live in a country where the feeling is “One for all and all for one” instead of a divisive country like this one.”

            You’ll find that in North Korea; a rice paddy is waiting for you.

            A Republic such as ours is a messy place in which to be; divisiveness is the product of both free interchange of ideas, and the need to counter the propaganda of the left. Get used to it.

          • Rick Quill

            Then move to Venezuela, Cuba, Cnina, or Iran even.

          • Karolyn

            Rick, Vigilant, et al – You just will never “get” it. (shaking head) I look to a higher ideal that unfortunately will not be because there is more division than common goal between us. (That common goal being peace and harmony that could be achieved if that WERE the common goal.)

      • Dale on left coast

        You must live under a bridge Karolyn . . . Germany has had a conservative leaning govt for severalyears, Sweden just elected to a second term the most conservative PM ever. Denmark is moving to the right. It must be nice living in lieberal la la land . . . just make it up as you go. The USSR was socialist as is Cuba . . . all failed states . . . and you clueless lefties want to try it again. Wasn’t it Einstein that said “repeating the same experiment expecting a different result is insanity”!!!

      • Wayne

        Karolyn, then get the h— out of this country, and go to one of these countries if they are better than this country. People like you irritate the, you know what, out of me. We are going to bring this country back to it’s founding principles so you had better leave before then. I know for a fact you couldn’t stand a nation that had values and principles. Good bye…

        • Karolyn

          “Wa,wa,wa! You can’t play in my sandbox because you don’t play the way I want you to!”

          • Rick Quill

            I wouldn’t want to play in your sandbox because it’s no doubt your “litter-box” too.

      • Wayne

        Karolyn, name 10 things that you either like, or hate about this country, and how you would change it. There are soldiers dying to keep your butt safe and sound, and you don’t see what this country has done for you. Shame on you. Don’t aways expect the country, or taxpayers, do things for you, try giving back to your country, you might find it enlightening to do something for some one else for a while.

        • Karolyn

          I DON’T HATE ANYTHING ABOUT THIS COUNTRY BUT THE PEOPLE WHO CAN’T SEE BEYOND THE ENDS OF THEIR NOSES!

          • Jana

            Karolyn,
            You will have a lot of those where you work.

      • Kate8

        Uh, Karolyn, I don’t think socialism has done so fine in those countries. Aside from the fact that they are running out of other people’s money, they are being overwhelmed with Muslims who are intent on bringing Sharia Law.

        If you pay attention to what is REALLY going on in Europe you would know that the situation is getting pretty dire over there, and the people are in a great deal of angst. In fact, they are astounded that we are making the same mistakes they made, and they are trying to warn us.

        • Wayne

          Kate8, yes, just look at Greese and you will see rioting in the streets. I will take this country over all those Socialist countries anytime. However, we are going to have to take this country back from the liberals, or we may be facing the same thing before too long. This administration, and this Congress, is swiftly moving us in this direction. I just hope and pray that we have enough people with enough common sense to see what is happening and vote for the right people on election day. I still think about the fact that 53 percent of the people voted for NObama. It goes to show that a of of people do not do their home work, and will vote for anyone that appears to be a good speaker. Being a good speaker is not a sign of a quality person. Hitler was a very good, and convincing speaker as well. Just look how that fiasco turned out. Many people lost their lives under this dictator doing WW2. Like I have stated many times on here, Nobama is a Muslim since. I have personally heard him say it, and the fact that he denies it, is unsettling to me. If he lies about this, how can we believe him on anything else. I have heard him say he was a Muslim 3 different times. This is a fact, regardless what people may tell you. I would never, ever lie, even on the people I disagree with.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Wayne,
            Let’s not forget the rioting in France!!!

          • Kate8

            Don’t forget that a good percentage of that 53% who voted for O were illegitimate votes. That’s what worries me. The democrats are so adept and experienced at cheating. They’ve turned it into a true political art form.

      • Craig

        And just think, OUR country is way better than all those combined. We are the greatest nation in the world, because of our freedom and capitalistic economy. Socialism has never made a country great.

        • Vigilant

          Truer words were never spoken!

  • texastuxguy

    OK GUYS… We need an agenda. The TEA party has one, the Reugs have one, but there seem to be few other alternatives. Let’s start a national discourse on what to do, not what not to do. Let’s referendum the FED into the history books, overturn Obamacare and keep the tax rates as they are for now. Can we all agree on that?

    • Christina

      Sounds like a plan, texastuxguy!!!

    • Teresa

      Absolutely, we also need to try to pass law to require you to speak/read English in order to obtain drivers license in the states.

      • Wayne

        Teresa, I have always felt the same way. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. Why should we be catering to people who do not want to learn our language. Push 1 for English, press 2 for Spanish is a bunch of bull to me. As far as I am concerned when people do not want to assimilate into our customs, this only weakens our nation. It does not strengthen it. Maybe Congress wants to turn this nation into a tribal nation like the Indians were before the white man came over. We, the English, were united in our quest and the Indians were not. This is the the reason we were able to conquer them. Had the Indians been united, like we used to be, they would have kicked the white man’s butt. I have alway liked this old saying, and it is so true. United we stand, divided we fall. What happened that caused the fall of Rome???? I will let you draw your own conclusion on this one. The most of you will know this, but I can see a few on this forum will not be able to understand it!!!!

  • Christina

    Fantastic comments by all…
    The Financial Mess started under BushJr’s watch in Spring of 2007 & I know this because I was turned down by my Bank of 15+years for an EquityLoan! I also believe that the Federal Reserve under Greenspan’s watch started to collapse when he kept dropping the interest rates! Im with other’s who believe that the Federal Reserve should be audited but Im guessing the Bilderberg’s [the shadow government] does not want this to occur!

    ThankGod for Social Security; I turned 62 this October and I can collect retirement benefits! Do I like being ‘beholding’ to the Government no way; but I earned the right to collect having worked for 30.5 years and never once being layed off or collecting unemployment!

    • ValDM

      Good luck collecting even a small fraction of what you paid into SS. It’s broke and now Odumbo wants to confiscate 401K’s and IRA’s to make it solvent again. What a deal!!!

      • Buzz75

        Actually, Christina will probably collect a heck of a lot more than she ever put into Social Security. Most Americans collect more SS in the first ten years than they ever put into the system. Christina may well live to 85 or 90, maybe longer. That would put her on SS for at least 25 years. She admits she worked 30.5 years, which is almost the amount of time she will be collecting SS. It will be our children and grandchildren, through much higher taxes, who will be footing the bill for Christina and the rest of us.

    • yoohooti

      hang on to your hat because you won’t collect for long

    • Lewis Munn

      Christina,

      Watch the SS! Gives the government the power now to tap your bank account dry!

      And gives them the power over whether you will live or die.

      And now they take part of your SS to pay off the illegals and the sneer-do-wells, with a tax.

      Be very careful to check fully before you go rock your life away in bliss, believing you are well taken care of. You may just be disposed of!

    • Dale on left coast

      Wasn’t 2007 the year the banks ran out of money cause they had borrowed it to all the folks that bought houses they could not afford under the Klinton Community Reinvestment Act? Trillions of worthless loans sold around the world as bogus derivitives.
      Bush to his credit tried to stop the insanity on several occasions . . . but Dodd, Fwank, Watters and the rest of the lieberal loonies would have no part of it!!!

    • Wayne

      Christina, not every one is sticking up for Bush. NObama promised to unite this country, and promised that the unemployment rate would not go any higher than 8 percent. Since then the unployment rate went up to 9.6 percent, our national debt went up about $3,000,000,000,000 and NObama promised us Utopia. NObama has taken over two car companies, the banks and all the other Comministic things he has done that the liberals fail to see. Where is this Utopia that he promised? I guarantee you, you will never see it. This country is a lot worse today that it was before NObama’s becoming president. I can see this country will be lucky to ever pull out of this mess, even with a Republican Congress, as NObama will most likely block everything. I invite the liberals to open their eyes and be more objective. Open your mind and watch and see what it happening. If you do this with an open mind you will be mad as hell what is happening to this country. Even if the Republican take over both houses this Nov. don’t expect miracles as it is going to take years and years to get this economic mess straighened out. Maybe we can start looking into the future after we fire NObama in 2012.

    • Wayne

      Christina, I just heard this morning, by a very knowledgeable person, that this economy fiasco started way back under President Jimmy Carter when he first initiated the CRA (Community Reinvestment Act) which forced the banks to give loans to people who could not afford them. The intent was good, but over the years since than, and through President Clinton years things got worse. President Clinton had the opportunity to change this, but he neglected to do so. The Democrats keep blaming the Republicans for all this econonic mess, but he stated that the Democrats were in involved in this more than the Republicans were. I guess it is like the pot calling the kettle black. A few of the Republicans in Congress do have some blame in this, but the Democrats wants to make out that it was al the Republicans fault. According to this speaker, it is not so.

      • Wayne

        I noticed some typos after I made the post, like I normally do, but excuse them.

    • Marie Mandel

      Christina, I second that.

  • Ram

    Auditing the FED, is the only real answer. Of course, Democrats have stopped that from happening for years. To be fair, so have some of the RHINO Republicans.The only real answer we have, is to charge interest on products coming from China, which is almost everything. The keys to this is a majority of Republicans with fiscal responsibility. Congress holds the purse strings, at least until Obama anoints himself king or calls for marshal law. China needs us, and this tax would wipe out our debt faster than anything else this administration has come up with. Of course, their still spending…so that would have to stop, and with a lame duck session coming up…do you think that will happen with Progressives in charge?

    • Wayne

      There has been a lot of bad Republican over the years as well as Democrats. This is more of a reason to back the Tea Party, and try to find people with Conservative value that will listen to the will of the people. I think Republican Ted Stevens, from Alaska, was a bad Republican. Remember, he built the bridge to no where. I personally will not stick up for a bad Republican any more than I would a bad Democrat. This is what has happened in our two party system. The Communist and Socialist did not have a ticket to run on so they confiscated, mostly the Democratic ticket, for their platform to run on. If they would come out and say, I am running on the Communist, or Socialist Ticket, who would vote for them? But, since they are masquerading behind the Democratic ticket they stand a lot better chance to fool the people. Well, you can fool some of the people all the time, and all the people some of the time, but you can’t fool all the people all the time. This was Abraham Lincoln making this quote. He was completely a genious when he made this one.

  • mr

    Unfortunately, Many people still believe that Obama is the best thing
    for us, including members of my family. They still dont see the
    damage being done. The subject of Obama is never mentioned in front
    of me. They dont believe he is Muslim. They dont believe Obama hates America. They dont see his actions and what they do see, they
    justify it or just look the other way. I truly dont understand this mentality.
    I have a suggestion for getting rid of Congress. Start with the ones that have been there the longest. They are probably the most corrupt, as they have done NOTHING to make America better. They have sat for years making themselves rich off of our hard earned money.

    Limit terms as the longer in office, the more comfortable they get and thats when the greed and corruption begin. Actually, the corruption probably starts on the CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
    GOD BLESS AMERICA!!

    • yoohooti

      I like your thinking

    • Wayne

      mr, they are not looking & they are not being objective. They have their eye closed. Don’t listen to what NObama says, watch what he has done, and what he is currently doing. I am surprised what NObama has already done and people still can’t see it. It shows me they are not looking. This is the reason this country is in for a rude awaking as people are still asleep. I can understand you flustration as I have this situation in my own family also. Golly, if they would just wake up and watch him. NObama is not even trying to hide it anymore. I personaly have heard him say he was a Muslim three different times on slip ups. Even George Stephonopolous had to correct him one time. NObama said to George, even though I am a Muslim, George stopped him and said, you mean Christian. NObama looked sheepish and said, yes, I mean Christian. Do you believe that a person could even forgot their faith? I don’t think so.

    • Teresa

      I suggest you read the book mafia media…and hand out to your family. Our nation is worse off than anyone realizes.

      • Wayne

        Teresa, I doubt they would even read anything detrimental to this president. They have their minds, and eyes, closed. This really irritates the heck out of me for some one to close their mind, and not listen to anyone else opinions. I can remember when O. J. Simpson killed his wife, and her friend. There were people that would never accept the fact that it was indeed, O. J. Simpson who committed this terrible crime. My Mother-in-Law, God Bless her, she died at a ripe old age of 97, would never believe that O. J. could do this. Of course with me being in law enforcement, I kept telling her that in my opinion, and from the facts I had heard on TV, I thought that he was the person who committed this crime. But she just closed her mind down and would never accept it. There again, like the old saying, you can take a horse to the watering hole, but you can’t make it drink.

  • texastuxguy

    Sorry friends, mr is dead right. Part of that agenda I spoke of is term limits. It can be done. Referendums at the state level were started in ’94, but lost steam because the Dems lost the Congress. Little did we know the real enemy was on both sides of the aisle. Career politicians, including staffers and bureaucrats are parasites. The bankrolls for public jobs of all kinds are enormous and their retirement plans are guaranteed to go up regardless of inflation or economic problems. Our public sector produces nothing but a bill taxpayers have to foot. Term limits for all. We should all have to work for a living.

  • http://www.America-Betrayed-1787.com Oliver Woods

    I’m looking forward to Tuesday evening also. But until there is a fundamental return to the law of God I’m afraid we’re only rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

    The National Reform Association, in its founding meeting during the Civil War, declared that “We regard the neglect of God and His law, by omitting all acknowledgment of them in our Constitution, as the crowning original sin of the nation and slavery as one of its natural outgrowths.” Convinced that the Civil War constituted an act of Divine judgment for rejecting the authority of Christ in the Constitution, they proposed that we renew our national covenant with God by the following amendment to the Preamble:

    “WE, THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES, [recognizing the being and attributes of Almighty God, the Divine Authority of the Holy Scriptures, the law of God as the paramount rule, and Jesus, the Messiah, the Savior and Lord of all,] in order to form a more perfect union…do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America”.

    The great need of the hour is for leaders who will renew the national covenant with god and restore the religious test oath, in which officials must swear to govern according to the Bible (Article VI, Section 3). If national leaders refuse to do this, then it is the duty of state and local officials to call them to account.

    Oliver Woods
    The Last Anti-Federalist

    • Karolyn

      That, sir, is inappropriate. We are a diverse nation, not all of whom have the same beliefs.

      • S.C.Murf

        Then you need to leave girl. This nation WAS founded on GOD’S principles and the fact that Christ Jesus is LORD. You need to leave

        up the hill
        airborne

        • Karolyn

          Well, BOY, I don’t need to do nuthin’! Who made YOU God?

          • Kate8

            Karolyn, If conservatives managed to take this country back, and worked to instill our traditional vaues and Constitution as intended by our founders, would you be upset? Or would you accept it?

            At least we’d allow you to continue to live as you do and make your own choices. They main difference would be that we would not FORCE our values on you, nor would we allow you to FORCE yours on us. We would NOT ALLOW anyone to take away our personal liberties, as you folks do.

          • Claire

            Kate8– I don’t know about Karolyn, but I would accept it.

          • Kate8

            Claire, I asked that question because I’m tired of liberals telling us that they are in charge now and we have to do things their way. They expect us to just accept it. Yet, when conservatives win, they scream and whine the entire time.

          • Karolyn

            Kate and Claire – I do not “scream and whine.” Somehow, nobody gets what I’m always trying to convey here. I don’t think you will find a post where I slammed any politico, liberal, libertarian, republican or dem. I have to say that I am afraid of republicans, but I’m not a sheep as so many would believe. It’s just not so simple with me. My posts are mainly geared toward trying to show people the other side, which most are loathe to do. Like it or not, there are two sides to every coin; and like it or not, both sides can bge right in many ways. What I’m looking for is a little less anger and hate and a little more optimisim despite appearances. I have quoted before “As ye think, so shall ye be.” What goes around comes around. The more anger and hate spewed, the more anger and hate is perpetuated. Actually, I don’t know why I bother. I’m addicted to this stupid site!

          • Claire

            How can you be addicted to something stupid?

          • Claire

            I should clarify–this site is not stupid.

          • Kate8

            Karolyn, Haven’t you yet figured out that liberals and conservatives just plain think differently? Our values are different, our expectations of government are different, and our philosophical outlook on pretty much everything is different.

            On both sides we view the other side as mentally defective. The right wants to be left alone, the left wants a sugar daddy.

            As with any ‘sugar daddy’ set up, it only continues until the benefactor loses any use for you. When you rely on the Heavenly Father, you don’t need a an earthly god to look to for sustenance.

            The truth is, we will never agree until h*ll freezes over. That is okay unless one side tries to use force on the other side. The Book you disbelieve says that if you want to know who is of good and who is of evil, you will know them by their fruits. To me, bearing the fruits of tyranny are evil, no matter how seductive the package.

            If you think any conservative is ever going to willingly go along with coerced governance, you are mistaken. We have the God-given right to our own pursuits unmolested by government. We will never accept being any kind of slave, because liberty is in our spirits. The price of being ‘taken care of’ is just too high.

          • Marie Mandel

            to Kate8: what liberties have been taken away from you? You on the other hand are trying to impose your so-called values on everyone and take away personal choices

          • Kate8

            Marie, Another stupid, absurd liberal talking point.

            I will say it again. Conservatism stands for smaller government. That means government stays out of ALL our lives. You have the right to believe or disbelieve.

            You libs, on the other had, want to take away our right to teach our values to our children, take away our right to our own choice of what kind of healthcare we want, are constantly marginalizing Christian values, want to take away our right to keep the fruits of our labor…and generally regulate ever aspect of our everyday lives.

      • Wayne

        Are you still here, Karolyn. I would you would have had your bags packed by now, heading for one of thos Socialist countries you mentioned earlier. You have it too easy here, you not going to leave this kind of life, are you?

      • Wayne

        Karolyn, I don’t believe I have heard anyone on this forum saying that we should all share the same belief, but we should all want the best for our country, and for our children, and grandchildren who will follow us. Look back through the history from the begining of this country. We have never had Socialism and look at how we progressed. Look at all the great things, and all the great people this country has produced under this system. Great inventions like the Wright Brother’s airplane, Bell produced the telephone, Henry Ford’s mass production of the automobile, Samuel F. B. Morse produce the first successful telegraph. I could go on and on with the great inventions under the free market place where people could work without restraints from the government. Can any of you Liberals discredit what I have mentioned above. We have had the best under a free market place. We should never want NObama or our Congress do away with free people, and the great minds that have shaped this country into a great nation. Who would want otherwise would have to be inbeciles. The things you are enjoying now that most people take for granted like all the things I mentioned above came from a free market place, not Socialism, or Communism. Remember, all of these great things we enjoy came from great people working in a environment of no, or little government intrusion and Liberals want to destroy this concept. I just have to shake my head as I simply cannot believe it. Get on your knees and pray this will never happen. We don’t want to destroy a great system, and great people with principles, that has worked hard since the inception of the great nation.

    • Angel Wannabe

      Well said Oliver and God Bless!

  • http://SovereignSociety Jack54

    Guys,

    Everyone needs to work together…Democrats & Republicans…Tea Party…Beer Party would be better…maybe someone should start one…the world has been about power, control and wealth since the day The Great Creator gave our ancestors their way and let people be in control of it…people can be extremely selfish, spitefull, foolish…it never ends…everyone tells only their side of the story to satisfy the world of appearances…abuses of power by leaders lead to disasters in an endless chain…Pharohs, Emperors, Kings, Queens, Prime Ministers, Presidents, Dukes, Duchess, Governors, Senators, Congressman, Mayors, Governmental Bureacrats, District Attorneys, Judges,Religious Leaders(Christians, Jews, Muslims etc.)..abuses of power never end…

    If we treat everyone as a true equal…then we do not have any need for all the specialty laws do we?…also, there needs to be a law that gives precidence to doing what is morally correct…such a law would be an override to correct all those would be, could be, should be laws that are nothing but guilt by association and unconstitutional…we are our brothers keeper…we are supposed to help one another only do good things on a daily basis…and to stop one another from doing bad things on a daily basis before things get worse…the whole concept of letting bad things happen…trying to allow more and more individuals get involved in bad things to be able to arrest and convict more of them goes against the teachings of The Great Creator…all religions entail Creation by a single god or at least a group of god`s…then we are all brothers and sisters…the true God or even the idea of multiple god`s being prejudiced against their own creation and instigating evil mistreatment against part of their created family goes against reason…simply, Do Unto Other`s…

    What have our economic advisors been doing since 2002?

    The federal government, state governments and local governments all have economic advisors that are supposedly to be utilized by those responsible governmental and business leaders to ensure a stable economy…jobs…balanced budgets…just what has been going on?

    Everyone needs to work together…common sense needs to prevail…unions need to be fully productive while working safely to ensure that investors make a profit…yes, we have to be environmentally safe…all those who are arrogant enough to argue against protecting the good earth and all the flora and fauna that God gave us will not not be so arrogant when their time comes to answer to God on this subject…I do not object to those investors who seek/obtain wealth reasonably within a capitalist system…I in fact want them to obtain reasonable wealth for their money and efforts…but only in a truly superficial world is gold and diamonds worth more than clean air, water, and fertile land and all the good things that are grown from it…until we ruin things to the extreme and go without these things will everyone truly appreciate them…hopefully, that will not happen…

    Everyone needs to be trading apples for apples…if in the USA…we build manufacturing plants…using safe OSHA construction operations…using EPA environmentally safe manufacturing standards…using OSHA safe wortk practices…producing non-toxic goods…hopefully, governmental agencies are doing their jobs correctly…those are all good things…being the best at all those things is why we were # 1 for all those years…good paying jobs stimuilated the economy…the economy grew…we were the world leaders…manufacturing…banking…were we not?

    Banking…cash flows…these are items that we were very good at for a long time…what happened?

    GREED!…

    You can not take bonuses until all business expenses and taxes have been paid for the business operation in question…also, it is a very good idea to have some money set aside for future maintenance of the facilities etc…business owners/directors need to be responsible and not excessive…labor needs to be in tune with the owners/directors to ensure profits are made…the productivity must be there…business owners/directors must limit their numbers and bonuses…the labor group must not pad the system with non-productive workers…none of this is rocket science…

    Now, it seems as if the leaders that were running our country for a long time were at a higher level than the most recent bunch…there have always been crooked leaders…there have always been abuses of power…but overall there was enough common sense and the willingness to share that allowed the USA to prosper…workers will be more productive if they receive a better wage and decent working conditions…tyranny is not as productive as Democracy…Capitalism is the most productive when properly executed…team work is more productive as well…

    Now, let our leaders lead…by team work…by honesty and fairness…by openess and friendship…by actually achieving the goals they set as a group…not Democrats versus Republicans but as our leaders…business leaders included…special interest groups need to be reasonable…they can do it…PORK is probably a large amount of these budgets…we have a lot of hard working and talented people in this country…we can do it!

    Jack54

    • Karolyn

      Wouldn’t it be great? It’s too bad it can never happen. In this country there is too much diversity.

      • yoohooti

        Don’t you mean GREED

      • Jana

        Karolyn,
        Make up your mind. In the above post you espoused diversity. Either you do or you don’t.

        • Karolyn

          Jana, if you don’t understand what I’m saying, I’m not going to explain it to you.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          karolyn,
          I can’t help but think the post above that accused you of being a very bitter discontented person was right. You say two different things in two posts and when someone calls you on it you get very defensive instead of trying to clear the misconception up!!!

          • Kate8

            JoeH, That’s what happens when one’s concept of truth is always relative.

    • Wayne

      Jack54, well said. You will never get those Liberals to work with anyone as they want the govenment to keep them ,and we, the people, are getting sick of keeping them. They have their own strange ideas and they will not falter from their ideology. To work together means you need to share ideas. What functioning ideas do they possess?

  • http://com i41

    Flushman, did your Blarney doll get too many pin holes in it, from your pin head? By the socialist posts, The National Marxist Democrat Communist Party feed wagon must have made a early run for their favorite porklets, to get wound up, to squeal for more government control with more useless programs. Wanting to vote in the same antiUSA smucks, again just shows the anal stupidity of democraps. Any smuck that voted for Onumnutts sure didn’t read or research the marxist muslim moron, even a 5 minute read at the library! So why don’t all you sorry socialist loving morons, head to any 3rd world reject land mass, I’m sure Mexico, will let you addled drug mind group, a free pass. Everyone knows flushman, will suck on anything to ruin his brain, even if it nano size and under powered.

  • Soldier

    All congressional districts should be nice, even squares, irrerespective of how many people are in each “square”. Anything less is whoremongering for votes.

    • Soldier

      obviosuly congressional districts on state borders should be curved to match the contours of the state border on one or more sides of the square, but otherwise as square in shape as possible.

      • Lewis Munn

        Why not use octagons? Or dodecagons?? They tile nicely too, and conform much better to the curved parts of state boundaries.

        Only problem may be finding public officials who can cope with that many sides!

        Also, since many state lines are rivers, how about using the Corps of Engineers to straighten out the rivers to reflect geometric state boundaries? They oughtta be good for something constructive!!

  • LiarsMustBeDefeated

    The TRUTH … Thank-you.

  • Soldier

    Our standard of living is GOING TO GO down. This is as true as the fact that the sun rose in the sky this morning. Sorry if this depresses you, but its true. I don’t care who is elected in a few days… our standard of living is headed for the toilet. Overall wealth and prosperity can only be achieved by how much “stuff” we all produce. Since many of our manufacturing jobs shipped to China and other places, our current standard of living is pretty much financed by debt. This deficit spending to maintain our standard of living can not keep going on forever.

    • http://www.PatrioticChristiansToday.com Chris

      I agree, people with conservative values also have common sense, they reason things out before they make a decision. They control their finances and pay their bills. They are hard-working Americans who Love their country, and take care of their families. They support our military and believe in our freedom. They are tax payers, home owners, volunteers, parents, they respect others and believe in God.
      They are the majority in this country, its the few that have their own agendas, and believe the world owes them something, that are causing problems. The veterans know what freedom is and what it means, they respect their country, even if they may not agree with the war!
      Americans need to take action and every individual needs to take part in changing our country back to the respected nation it once was. I’ve read a lot of comments here, a lot of bashing, which does not solve anything. Let’s take positive action. Goto: http://www.PatrioticChristiansToday.com and get your red/white and blue wristband to wear as a daily reminder of what it means to be an American and a production citizen. If we all do that, “we the people” will once again, take control of this great nation. What will you do?

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      Soldier,we can thank Clinton and the traitors in government that pushed and voted for NAFTA.

  • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

    I worry about the post-election season. Will the sore losers in the
    lame duck congress enact a lot of destructive legislation to punish the voters who threw them out of office? It’s something to think about. After all, they got canned from lucrative, long-term jobs. Now they have to stick around for a few weeks to train their replacements.
    People of questionable moral character tend to be bitter and vindictive in a situation like that.

    • Soldier

      It isn’t like they become unemployed and on the streets like us sheeple when we lose our jobs. No, the lobbyists will keep them nice and employed. Even if not, they get a nice retirement and full benefits for even just serving a single term in congress.

      It really doesn’t matter who is elected in a few days. Our country is headed for a Greek and France style financial crisis, riots, martial law, and god knows what else (civil war 2?, holocaust 2 in America (hint: I doubt the SEIU thugs will be the “Jews” of holocaust 2 and the main stream media declared “tea bagging red necks knuckle draggers” get to tbe the “brownshirts”)

    • Lewis Munn

      Jessica,

      If you fear this, why do they have to stay around? There ere procedure manuals that the incoming people can read, and goals manuals, and charts of how the office relates to others.

      Clean sweep…all the losers leave the night the elections are in, and the elected officials take over with a fresh clean slate in the morning.

      We should, if course, elect people smart enough to read the manuals and take over immediately!

  • http://com i41

    They have already put together a massive superbill with their wish kist wants, cap and trade, more banned oil drilling, and lots more restrictions on food production.

  • Carlucci

    Every entrenched career politician should be fired, except for Dr. Ron Paul. He’s been telling the truth about the fed guv and the PRIVATELY OWNED federal reserve (which is no more federal than Federal Express) for years. Virtually all of the encumbents, whether democrats or republicans have got to go. Actions always speak louder than words and they have shown that all they care about is their job security. They don’t give a rat’s patootie about the American people and will gladly rubber stamp every destructive “law” to keep us down. It’s just one big bloated mess in D.C., which the founding fathers warned about. In the beginning the fed guv used to run out of the back of a wagon and the states had all the powers. That is how it is supposed to be. Then FDR came to town and all of this big bloated government b.s. began. Time to trim all of the fat way down, starting with the Federal Reserve. Watch this incredible documentary: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-secret-of-oz/

  • http://jenersea@comcast.net jenersea

    People we have a chance next week to save our country, please go out and vote. Hopefully enough people in this country still care enough to do so, won’t be too busy, not think it matters, etc. Now once WE THE PEOPLE get our control back, remember government works for us, not the other way around. Then we have to do everything in our power to ensure that the ones in control after next Tuesday listen to us. That is the main thing that has gotten us into the mess we are in now. Too long the powers in control have said for us to mind our own business, and they know what is best for us. It may take a 3rd political party in this country for the other 2 to really wake up and listen to the people. Probably term limits would help, that way you cannot be a professional politician. No easy answers, but we know the days of things being crammed down our throats has to stop. This country is divided now and GOD willing it will not get any worse. However we have to play our part and demand sensible government. REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER, go vote, too many people in the past fought and died for your right to vote for anyone not to think of it as a right and a priveldge, it is also a duty as an American citizen.

  • Mark

    Standard of living has never been high for myself. But now with dish/cable fees increasing, medical fees increasing (imagine that), county taxes increasing, home owner insurance increasing, car insurance increasing, etc., etc., and fixed income NOT increasing. People with fixed incomes are screwed. While ridiculously wealthy uncaring lowlife politicians give themselves raises and give free benefits to low lifes that are not in this country legally. I would like to see ANY politician live on 20K bring home. They could not handle it, they would commit suicide and I would piss on their graves for not giving raises to legitimate SS recipients, disability and vet recipients. All these other increases should have to be frozen until we all get a little raise to subside on. But it all started way before FDR, it started when a low life idiot moved this country to federally controlled centralized banking. The gov’t has gone to great expense to hide the autrocities of this one idiot. Lincoln. I am not demorat or in favor of repubs. But whoever has the most campaign money and by off money wins. Oh well…locked and loaded, bring them on.

  • Buddy

    Yeah. Go out and vote. It doesn’t matter from whom you vote (it really doesn’t in the long run), but VOTE! The political types need all the support they can get.

  • EltonJ

    I voted early. I voted for all the libertarians I can, even if it meant voting against a good Republican (Representative Jason Chaffetz). It was a hard decision, since Jason Chaffetz and Jake Shannon will be good people in the House (Jason Chaffetz is already doing a good job as a greenie).

    For Governor, I chose W Andrew McCullough for the governor of Utah. Although he never agressively campaigned, the two candidates for Utah were involved in a mudslinging match that turned me off to both of them. Peter Carroon did most of the mudslinging, using Education as his way of getting elected. While Gary Herbert had to defend himself from most of the attacks.

    The mudslinging was the worst I’ve seen in Utah politics. Most past governor races talked about how good the state is. They were civil races in my living memory. But this time, it’s nasty. It’s like the gloves are off.

    Utah politics have become a microcosm of National politics. I wish to urge everyone to vote for the best man for the job come November. Vote for people who will be good statesmen. Don’t be pulled in by mudslinging politics, or allow yourself to become polarized in the races.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Edward

    Obamacare is a horrorshow, has everyone seen the graph of the way the system will work. It is so loaded with red tape, you will probably die of old age waiting for approval to have a medical procedure done.
    Next coming up, the Immigration situation, Obama’s plan to admit 12 to 18 million aliens, when there are not even enough jobs in America for Americans. Strike three will be Cap and Trade, your utilities will go up 2 or 2 1/2 times the cost they are now. And, yes, this one will be loaded with more hidden taxes and agendas just like the Obamacare plan and every other piece of legislation he brings up. Now to increase his voter base he is trying to get the Latino vote, (more Dem. voters to keep him in office). He is pleading with this group to stand up with the people who are trying to help them, through immigration, the Democrats. He is also telling the Latinos not to vote for the enemy, meaning the Republicans and other groups that realize that amnesty for too many illegal immigrants is breaking the back of America. Immigrants get many free services, but they don’t realize, or care, that it is the American citizen that is paying the freight. Obama has to be stopped before the United States is totally unfixable.

  • FreedomFighter

    Redistribution of wealth: When non-productive internal parasites overcome productive healthy, family oriented, freedom loving foundation of American prosperity – middleclass.

    Its more than just theft of income, its theft of the idea, unique in America, you can become and do the impossible, better your family and build what your fathers and mothers only dreamed possible.

    Redistribution of wealth, a commie plot to destroy America and bring more evil and darkness to the world.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Angel

      You can call this so-called “redistribution of wealth” a commie plot – but wealth is definitely being redistributed: more to the wealthy. Look at the numbers over the last 30 years. Look at them over the last 3 years. Show me the commie plot! Average income is being stolen alright – by those with the most.

      Commie plots, illegal immigration scares, cap and trade – all bogus conspiracies derived to distract the electorate.

      • Karolyn

        Amen!

      • Dale on left coast

        Martin . . . do you live under the same bridge as Karolyn???

        When will the light go on for you??? Real unemployment probably close to 20% in many states, govt spending out of control, and the most inexperienced occupant of the WH in 235 years, with a gaggle of 60′s radicals as czars. Be afraid . . . very afraid.
        When the country is broke, any day now, who will mail the checks to the “Handout Crowd”???

        • Angel

          Dale, your posts are valid. However, how do you explain the extreme concentration of wealth in the hands of the top 1% of this country? Hello, outsourcing and off-shoring jobs, anyone?

          Handout Crowd? Do you buy into the Sharron Angle theory that people would rather not work? (Ever tried to live on $300 a week?) If real unemployment is 20%, that means 10% of this country collect nothing (no benefits). Do you think that anyone can just go to a government office and start getting money? (Yes, fraud exists – but nowhere on the scale of corporate tax fraud.) Illegal immigrants coming to this country for handouts? Yes – usually under the protection of employers that are breaking the law.

          I’m not here to defend Obama nor his experience. I’d rather conservatives reclaim our movement.

      • Teresa

        Martin, you are sadly mistaken….of the scientist of whom gave original documentation to the UN over global warming, numerous of those scientist have come forward to tell that the UN lied in the original reports from the Scientist on their research documentation. The UN lead scientist even admitted that he made an error on the last couple reports but he would not change the reports on the website.
        The Global warming has been proved to be a lie, the cap and trade is nothing more than a scheme to make billions for the elite. Gore has made billion already from the faked up claims. If you don’t believe me follow the trail to whom owns stocks in the compaines and stands to make money.
        As far as the Border control, I can’t believe you even went there…if you think that is a mere scare tactic I dare you to go spend one day near the border…The own government put up signs 20 miles not to come near the border.

      • Craig

        Cap-n-trade is a reality. The premise it is based on, man made global warming, is the conspiracy. You are sorely under educated.

  • Angel Wannabe

    Great article Chip sad and a bit tearful, but the reality is, it is where we are___
    I’ve lived with a gnaw in the pit of my stomach for two years now, my husband the same__I never thought for one day in my life, I’d ever see America at the brink._I usually don’t say never, because never has a way of appearing like thief in the night. Like most folk in the last few years, we’ve run the gamut of emotion, from strong, to weak and back to strong again. We’ve watched the news, read books, trying to understand, trying to find a way to stop the changes, while trying to go on our day to day lives. Other Countries told us Time & again, you don’t want the Government we have. That we had better wake up!__We’re Awake__ November 2ND, like no other election, is going to reveal weather our voices still count or if we’re too late._ I gnash my teeth and rebuke any thought of giving up our sovereignty_ our Liberty. __I look at our Grandchildren and wonder what will be left for them__Before, during and After the vote, please turn your heart and mind to God in prayer___for a people joined in union_
    _”are never defeated unless we give up on God.”
    Ronald Reagan
    GOD BLESS AMERICA & her People

    • http://www.PatrioticChristiansToday.com Chris

      They are tax payers, home owners, volunteers, parents, they respect others and believe in God.
      They are the majority in this country, its the few that have their own agendas, and believe the world owes them something, that are causing problems. The veterans know what freedom is and what it means, they respect their country, even if they may not agree with the war!
      Americans need to take action and every individual needs to take part in changing our country back to the respected nation it once was. I’ve read a lot of comments here, a lot of bashing, which does not solve anything. Let’s take positive action. Goto: http://www.PatrioticChristiansToday.com and get your red/white and blue wristband to wear as a daily reminder of what it means to be an American and a production citizen. If we all do that, “we the people” will once again, take control of this great nation. What will you do?

  • Polski

    I notice in your list of “bad guys” you did NOT list corporate executives. Who do you think controls the world? The corporate executives. Who makes the corporate decisions to cheat us, the CEO, who gets $16million per year, or the union leader, who gets $200thousand per year. There in a nutshell is the problem with Republicans. They ignore Dubya Bush horrors, Ronnie Reagan horrors, Richard Nixon horrors, Arnold horrors………..

    • Angel Wannabe

      Sleep tight Polski!

    • Angel

      You are so right, Polski – thanks for the comment. Unfortunately, the hypocrites here that believe all (R)’s are completely good and all (D)’s are completely bad are too short-sided to look up the facts and follow the money themselves.

      I have no problems with business backing conservative candidates – it’s just our ‘tit-for-tat’ system where those candidates are now beholden to the corporate interests and make decisions based on corporate policy rather than true conservative virtues and values.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Follow the money friend _-to the Federal reserve!!!

    • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

      I get so tired of class warfare. We shouldn’t resent the rich, or the super-rich. As free American citizens we all have the opportunity to get there if we have the brains and ambition. Besides, have you ever gotten a job from a poor man?

  • Norm

    I grew up in a New England city of about 80,000 people. It was a prosperous, proud, diverse manufacturing city composed of a mixture of ethnic groups.
    Most of the older factories were started by English emigrants in the 1800’s. They were manned by various “waves” of ethnic groups from many countries. First there were Germans and Swedes. Next came Irish and French Canadians. Later there arrived Italians and Poles. Lastly came southern Blacks and Puerto Ricans.
    Jobs were plentiful. Help wanted signs were posted in front of most of the many plants.
    Jobs were available for all skill levels and all education levels.
    Healthy people below retirement age who didn’t work were rightfully scorned.
    Wages were fair and moderate taxes provided excellent schools, fire and police departments, and a well kept “handsome” environment.
    Kids in my generation were very proud of their city, state, and country. America was the land of opportunity for the very ambitious and for the folks just happy with 40 hours pay for 40 hours work.
    What the hell happened?
    For one thing those great factories had their talented engineering staffs and moderately paid creative managers replaced by greedy bean counters whose only talent was cutting costs and fattening their wallets. Close plants, cut wages, ship jobs overseas, consolidate, and destroy became their mantra.
    Secondly those frugal emigrants who saved money and managed their finances in a sane manner were replaced by the “financed to the nth degree” crowd who feel that the world owes them something.
    No or low income coupled with huge debt = disaster.
    Nobody, including the teabaggers, has come up with a viable solution unfortunately.

    • Palin12

      Norm I agree that shipping jobs overseas is bad, but if they got rid of the unions who artificially drive prices up up and up perhaps that wouldn’t be a problem in the first place. You should see what the union goons are doing here in Nevada now…bussing the rank and file to early polling places, giving them a free papersack lunch, and then keeping an eye on them to make sure they vote the way “they are supposed to”. BTW Norm, since we haven’t seen you around here for awhile, do you still think Angle is going to lose? If so, I suggest you watch the Reid-Angle debate on YouTube. Sharron ripped Harry apart, telling him to “man up Harry Reid”. When asked to give their final closing statements, Harry fumbled around through his notes for about 30 seconds saying he had a lot of paperwork here, looking like an old fool. Right after that, Angle’s percentage went up. A week later, Obummer came to town for the third time this year to campaign for Dirty Harry. Angle’s percentage went up again, now at 4.0%. Michelle Obama’s coming here tomorrow. I can hardly wait!

  • jopa

    The Retardicans are promising change that will only benefit the filthy rich, big oil ,and Wall Street.They want to cut medicare, privatize social security, and do anything Wall Street and big insurance companies want.Time to put some real thought in your decisions.Not just for today but also for the future.You will all be senior citizens before you know it.

    • Angel

      If you except people to think here, you are pretty unfamiliar. This is just a place to vent against the other side.

  • BigBadJohn

    Folks, unlike most here, I pay attention to history.

    Here is my prediction,

    If republicans take over, the national debt will continue to swell, quite possibly at am even higher rate then now, once they start cutting taxes again. The new round of tax cuts for the wealthy will only accelerate the NWO and the average workingman’s wages will continue to fall.

    The value of the dollar will continue to fall, it sort of stabilized since 2008.

    If they are successful in reversing the health-care reform, the number of Americans with no health-care will reach record levels.

    Since one of the primary target of conservatives is education, the USA will become most illiterate developed nation.

    Jobs will continue to flow overseas.

    Be careful of what you wish for…..

    • Dale on left coast

      Big . . . that’s the Dimmicrap Congress spending since 2007 . . . 5 TRILLION

      Bad . . . your concept of reality . . . the present regeme is collapsing the dollar . . . only reason its still worth anything is because of the disasterous Euro . . .

      John . . . govt run healthcare is lousey eveywhere it has been tried, it will be a disaster in the US as well.

    • Dale on left coast

      and Big . . . .
      “Since one of the primary target of conservatives is education, the USA will become most illiterate developed nation. ”

      This is a laughable comment!!! The US public schools are TODAY the worst on the planet . . . . thanks to the NEA and teachers unions promoting lieberal nonsense for decades.

      • BigBadJohn

        I agree with your comment about the liberal agenda in education. But you still can not throw the baby out with the bath water….

  • http://www.inkcartridges-discounted..com Stan Thow

    I am Canadian. We are affected by what happens in the U.S.A.
    I believe in providing Health care to all .
    I believed that children have a right to a good education in GOOD PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
    BUT ALL whithin a CAPITALISTC System.
    The Public School system is poor because there is no Competition and no Goals for High Standards.
    People have to have choices of the public schools they send their children to be educated.
    No choice, Poor Education. Choice, Good Education.
    Socialize Medicine, Poor Medicine.
    Free Choice, Good Medicine.
    It is as simple as that.
    We have Good Doctors In Canada.
    Just not enough of them in Proportion To the U.S.A.
    We don’t have as much of up to date Equipment that is available in the U.S.A.
    Hospitals are over crowded with long waits before you even get emergency service.
    If I Lose my Family Doctor I am in trouble. There is a huge shortage of Family Doctors.
    Our specialists are overworked and good ones in short Supply.
    My Urologist and my Heart Specialist don’t have the time to see me once a year.
    But they will be available to me if I need them.
    I rely on my Family Doctor for that information.
    I have to make an appointment 3 Months ahead of time.
    If I have an emergency , my doctor who is very good tells me to go to Emergency because she cannot see me for at least a week or so.
    Emergerncy is Actually Hallway Medicine.
    The hallways are jambed with Patients in Beds waiting for Xrays or a Hospital room.
    Therte is at least one hospital that you should never go to for an Emergency or anything else ,it is so bad.
    Last year my wife had to wait 10 hours for a simple xray and 15 Hours in the very crowded hallway for a hospital Room.
    Its FREE because we pay so much for it indirectly in Higher Income Taxes.
    Hip and Knee replacements take a year to get.
    MRI’s 6 Months. I had to take my wife away to get one in 3 days and I could not get one cent back from The Health care system.
    The Gov’t Builds Gorgeous new Offices for the 400 incompetent Bureaucrats , with no Medical Experience to run the system.
    No one knows what they do because you cannot talk to them or phone them.
    Some Genuis came up with the idea that all food should be made in one Huge commissary. and have it delivered to the Hospitals for the Patients.
    If you think that Hospital food is bad, come to Canada.
    Before Socialiized Medicine, Each Hospital was run by a Director and his staff.
    That is now duplicated by the Huge Bureaucracy.
    The Hospital Administration is still there.
    While my wife was in the Hospital, I had to bring Folding chairs for our Visitors.
    Otherwise they had to sit on the bed.
    This by the way is one of our better hospitals.
    Half the wheelchairs were Broken.
    The Hospital asked my wife to bring Toilet paper because they were running short.
    The Nurses are nice, harried and overworked because we also have a huge shortage of nurses.
    Most Hospitals have VOLUNTEERS to provide the little niceities.
    Most work a 4 to 6 Hr shift once a week and are ussually older women with a few men also.
    This Hospital had 250 of them. Thank God.
    But it is all Free in the Hospital except some Expensive Drugs.
    Drugs are ” FREE” except for a SUBSTANTIAL amount that you pay based on your income.
    But you are protected from Catrostrophic Costs.
    There are Federal laws Directing what health Care services are to be provided by the Provinces ( States ).
    Each Province ( State) is responsible in providing the health care.
    The provinces decide on Hospitals, Sattilite Facilities in Rural Areas, Equipment , and the distribution of Health CARE.
    SO THE POLITICIANS OF EACH PROVINCE ( STATE ) are directly responsible to the Voters. And yet that is the best we get.
    NO RECORDS ARE KEPT ON THE COST OF ANY, I MEAN ANY of the Hospital .Procedures.
    NO ONE can tell you how much that Blood test cost or that Cat Scan cost or any of the other cost.
    They only know what the Hospital spent in that year.
    Or what the doctors billed.
    The Doctors are paid by peice work.
    They get paid based on each procedure they do at a Gov’t set rate.
    They get less than $ 40.00 for an Examiation and so on.
    Plumbers make more.
    The Federal Gov’t taxes me and then Returns To each Province a sum that is based on the population of each province.
    Except For Ottawa(Washington) and Quebec Province.
    Ottawa because the Politicians are there and Quebec to keep them in the Federation. ( Bribe).
    Can youn imagine how poor our system would be if everything were run from Ottawa ( Washington).
    It will be a Disaster.

    • Teresa

      good post

    • JC

      All of my in-laws are Canadian they live in Alberta. They have told me the same things you are saying here Stan so I believe every word of it. Especially that family Doctors are impossible to find.
      And when you do find one, they’ll refer you to a specialist at the drop of a hat. The reason being (as you say) they are paid piece work at set government rates…get em in, get em out…NEXT!
      So they don’t always give the attention required and specialists are back logged for months…

      And in the so-called free enterprise system…you still have government and corporations cooperating to control costs.

      So, while I would love to see a universal health care system that actually worked, the reality is that as long as government is involved it will be wasteful, overpriced and innefficient.

      So back to the drawing board both north and south.
      get government out and severely punish price fixing.

  • Cliff

    Barb: Get a life!!! Really

  • Marilyn K

    Here is how I see it. Things that have happened to lead us to a third world: Nationalization of the Economy in all major sectors (Bailouts). Federal Healthcare is redistibution of wealth. Censorship- media on the left – hate crime legislation and all pastors not allowed to talk about Homosexuals, Islam, etc in the pulpit. Gun ownership; U.N. Small Arms Treaty-this will decide how Americans can or cannot have guns and definately Feds will know where every gun is located. National Security Force (not military) will be commission of officers who answer only to Obama; this gives complete control over the American people.

    This is happening. We can stop it. The Marxism – Socialism – Communism is not what Americans want and anyone who votes to keep the Democrats in control, are really ignorant of what is happening to their country. If they think they are getting free healthcare, better read the entire Obama Healthcare Reform Bill. Good Luck on that. So many hidden sections that will make your head spin.

    It is already happening with redistribution of wealth. One nurse once paid $117.00 for health care. Her last paycheck had $198.00 removed for the same. There are other horror stories about the redistribution of wealth and the poor uninsured will find that they will pay dearly or go to jail. Where is all the money going? To the Federal Government and we all know how they mismanaged Social Security. They say it is broke. Well, if politicians had to pay into Social Security, it would be fixed pronto. Same for Healthcare, soon the cries that it is broke but politicians don’t have to use the new Healthcare so it will be ignored and the thieves will remove money from that “account” and use it for whatever program they want. Also, when the Politicians vote themselves a bit fat raise, where do you suppose the money comes from to enhance their life styles? Yep. You got it, from the “General Fund” where Social Security dollars now sit, and, probably where Healthcare dollars will end up.

    The Federal Reserve, Bilderberg Group, Wall Street, Big Unions all run the Federal Government. Obama is only the puppit who enlists other puppits…It hasn’t been JUST OBAMA. This has been going on for many years. But, Obama escelated the move towards this mindless “One World Power.” Why else is he stomping for every Democrat and not in the Oval Office? If he loses his following, he is in deep manure to complete the transformation of America.

    GET OUT AND VOTE BUT DO YOUR RESEARCH FIRST. DON’T JUST VOTE FOR ONE PARTY BECAUSE DADDY DID IT. It’s a whole new ball game this election and those that follow.If you just want your supposedly “freebies” you have a big shock in store for you. Wait untl you have to pay taxes on the program, “Clunkers…”….things you were not told about that program when it comes tax time!

    Go Green – recycle Congress in 2010

  • Anti Government

    This mess was caused by the ill planed wars from the bush years. The Bush Administration destroyed this country. Wars and the shipping our good paying manufacturing jobs to China have devastated the economy. If there were no federal spending right now we would be a depression. Sure the Democrats share in the blame, but make no mistake on how we got here! I vote for the best person, Democrat or Republican.

    • Bob Wire

      Right ! and unfortunately it wasn’t Mc Same.

      I just had a friend phone and remind me to vote early. I said thanks but I”ll wait . She says, we gotta get that [offensive word removed] out of there! I said , well the [offensive word removed] is not running! but I did vote for the [offensive word removed]. She says, well I’m ashamed of you. ~ I relied, well “likewise” Pussycat, you know people can’t control who their mothers and fathers are and it not nice to call people [offensive word removed]. And wasn’t it you that held hard feeling toward your mother for being born a drug baby? And how is mother today anyway? Still giving you hell for not seeing her everyday?

      I’d never known her feeling before or how she justifies them.

      I guess I have to live with some peoples disappointment ` a small price for the good of the nation.

      offer us a better candidate next time.

  • Bob Wire

    “I read a very depressing statistic last week. In a nationwide poll, some 63 percent of adult Americans said they do not think they will be able to maintain their present standard of living much longer, much less improve it.”

    News? Are you trying to be funny Mr. Woods?

    Just about everyone I know has been slammed hard since the mid 80′s!

    Just about everyone I know is 20 to 50 grand down.

    It must be nice to live in an Ivory Tower, is all I can say.

    That’s down right contemptible self-righteous talk.

    You don’t represent anyone I know personally but people I only read about in the “rags” as I’m at the checkout stand.

    If any American is just now feeling the pinch, they should consider themselves more fortunate then most.

  • http://msn.com LeRoy Lyons

    The biggest reason for voting for Republicans is to stop the free fall give away of our country. If Obuma isn’t stopped there ilkely won’t be free America in two years. When Republicans get in we have to watch them to and if they don’t take the peoples intrests to heart then remove them to. I for taking back America (no mater what it takes)

  • dahni

    A friend now abroad sent this to me.

    QUO VADIS? MR PRESIDENT
    HE CAME TO US FROM FAR AWAY, A MAN WITH AN AUDACIOUS PLAN,
    HE SPOKE OF HOPE AND CHANGE TO US, AND VOWED TO HELP THE COMMON MAN.
    REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH HE SAID, THAT WOULD BE MOST FAIR,
    PROTECT THE PEOPLES’ HEALTH, AND SHOW THE MASSES THAT YOU CARE.
    HE PROMISED OPEN DIALOGUE IN GOVERNMENTAL MATTERS—A GRANDIOSE ENDEAVOR,
    BUT GAVE US PLATITUDES AND ATTITUDES, IN RHETORIC MOST CLEVER.
    NOW, HE IS OUR PRESIDENT, THE FIRST OF COLOR, AND AFRICAN EXTRACTION,
    THE WHITE HOUSE HOSTS A RESIDENT OF FORCEFUL SOCIAL ACTION.
    BUT HE SOON BECAME LESS CREDIBLE AS HE UNVEILED HIS SOCIAL PLAN,
    HIS WORDS BECAME INEDIBLE, WHILE SOUNDING MORE LIKE LENIN’S MAN.
    THE AUDICITY OF HOPE BECAME A TENDENCY TO GROPE,
    LIKE A SHIP WITHOUT A RUDDER OR FRESH MILK WITHOUT AN UDDER.
    IT SEEMS WE’VE WAITED LONG ENOUGH, SINCE NOW HE’S IN THE DRIVER’S SEAT.
    HE STILL BLAMES BUSH, STILL TALKING TOUGH, WHILE MARCHING TO A DIFFERENT BEAT.
    HE READS HIS LINES SO FLUENTLY AND SELDOM MISSED A CUE IT SEEMS,
    BUT NOW WE KNOW HE SOLD US, A PILLOWCASE OF DREAMS.
    WE PLACE THE BLAME ON OTHERS, WHENEVER THINGS GO WRONG,
    WISE PLATO COINED A FITTING PHRASE : “THOSE WHO WISH TO SING, WILL ALWAYS FIND A SONG.”
    OUR BUREAUCRACY IS BLOATED AND NOW WE KNOW WE VOTED
    FOR A DREAM, A FRAGILE BUBBLE, WHICH PLACED US IN DEEP TROUBLE.
    OUR DEBTS ARE IN THE TRILLIONS, WHEN THEY ONCE WERE IN THE BILLIONS,
    AND THE PRINTING PRESSES STRUGGLE TO KEEP PACE.
    GIVE US LIBERTY AND FREEDOM, GOD KNOWS WE REALLY NEED ‘EM,
    GIVE US JOBS, NOT CLEVER PHRASES— THEN, YOU WATCH HOW FAST WE RACE.
    THE CZARS ARE RATHER LAUGHABLE, THEIR VISIONS DIM, AND FROUGHT WITH GUILE,
    THEIR BACKGROUNDS FILLED WITH QUESTIONS, THAT SMACK OF DEALS, CHICAGO STYLE,
    SILENT NODS AND HANDSHAKES, WHICH BRING US TO DESPAIR:
    NO VETTING BY COMMITTEES; NEITHER BALANCED, NOR QUITE FAIR.
    WHAT ABOUT THE LOBBIES, HE PROMISED TO ESCHEW, NOTHING BOLD AND, PATENTLY, NOT NEW;
    SAME OLD SORRY FACES, IN MYRIAD DISGUISES, OVERPRICED PANDERERS, SAME OLD TAWDRY PRIZES.
    HE’S STEPPED ON MANY FOREIGN TOES, PROVIDED COMFORT TO OUR FOES,
    HE’S BOWED TO KINGS AND SULTANS, AND MADE US SEEM QUITE FLACCID.
    OUR ALLIES FEEL WE’VE TURNED ABOUT, AND THINK WE’VE GROWN TOO PLACID;
    THEY’RE ALSO FILLED WITH GROWING DOUBT, OF WHAT SUCH ACTIONS STAND TO GAIN.
    THEY QUESTION OUR COMMITMENTS, SUCH CLOSE RELATIONS FRAUGHT WITH PAIN.
    IN BATTLES FOR SUPREMACY THERE ARE NO SAINTS OR SINNERS—BUT SIMPLY, STRONGER WINNERS.
    WE’VE GOT POLITICAL VIAGRA FROM FRISCO TO NIAGARA,
    AND IT TRULY IS AMAZIN’ HOW WE RISE TO THE OCCASON,
    BUT THE DOWNSIDE COULD BE HARDER THAN THE HIGH —
    AND OUR DEBTS CANNOT BE PAID FOR, NO MATTER HOW WE TRY.
    THE BAILOUT WAS A COSTLY FARCE, DECLINE WAS SURE AND STEADY,
    IF STALIN TAUGHT US ANYTHING, ONLY GRAVES ARE “SHOVEL READY”.
    WE THOUGHT RACISM WAS BEHIND US, BUT THE RHETORIC REMINDS US
    THAT POLITICAL CORRECTNESS HAS SCALPED US, DEMEANED US, MORE THAN HELPED US.
    PERHAPS WE SHOULD JUST GROW UP, SHAKE HANDS, GROW THICKER SKINS,
    EVERYWHERE, AMERICANS — RALLIES AND TEA PARTIES, AND ALL THE OUTS, AND INS.
    WE’RE BLACKS AND WHITES TOGETHER, FROM ALL RELIGIOUS CREEDS,
    THROUGH STORMY AND FAIR WEATHER, WE CAN, TOGETHER, OVERCOME OUR URGENT NEEDS.
    WE MUST STOP THE NEGATIVITY AND ALL THE PETTY WHINING, LET’S HAVE SOME CIVIL DISCOURSE .
    DO NOT ALLOW THE DEMAGOGUES TO BOLDY SHOUT US DOWN,
    DEMOCRACY HAS A GREATER VOICE, WHEN PROUD PEOPLE STAND THEIR GROUND.
    AS SLOGANS OVERWHELM US, SPIN DOCTORS AND THE MEDIA MUST BEAR THEIR SHARE OF BLAME
    THE SINS OF THEIR OMMISSIONS HAVE PLACED THEIR TRADE IN SHAME.
    OUR PRESIDENT CAN ORATE, A VERY CLEVER MAN, BUT PEPSICO AND HEINZ INSIST “YES WE CAN”!
    WE CAN’T DEPEND ON FOSSIL FUELS, FROM THOSE, WHO LOATHE THE FREEDOMS THAT WE CHERISH;
    WE MAKE THEM RICH, BUT WHERE’S OUR GAIN? UNLESS WE DRILL, WE CERTAINLY SHALL PERISH.
    LET’S DRILL, FOR NOW, UNTIL WE FIND A BETTER OPTION, THE GAS PAINS ARE STARTING TO BE FELT,
    AN OUNCE OF PAIN, A POUND OF CAUTION, WAKE UP AMERICA, AND TIGHTEN UP YOUR BELT.
    WE NEED STRAIGHT ANSWERS TO OUR QUESTIONS, GREEN ENERGY OF ANY TYPE,
    BE IT WIND OR WAVE OR NUCLEAR, PROVIDE US STEADY JOBS, AND NOT DELUSIVE HYPE.
    MILLIONS OF ILLEGALS STREAM ACROSS OUR BORDERS, THE BILLS PAID BY OUR TAXES,
    YET, WE SUE ARIZONA ON GOVERNMENTAL ORDERS, WHILE WASHINGTON RELAXES.
    OUR PARENTS CAME FROM DISTANT SHORES, THEY CAME TO FIND A BETTER LIFE;
    THEY STOOD IN LINE, THROUGH LEGAL DOORS, FACING HARDSHIPS, BIGOTRY AND STRIFE.
    LIFE WAS NEVER EASY, SOME DAYS WERE FILLED WITH DOUBT AND FEAR,
    WITH PRIDE OUR ELDERS STATED: “OUR NEW LAND, AMERICA—WE SPEAK ENGLISH HERE!”
    WE, ALL SEEK A BETTER LIFE, AND PROVIDE OUR CHILDREN HOPE, FOR THERE MIGHT NOT BE A SEQUAL;
    TO BELIEVE WITH ALL OUR BEING, THAT WE ARE ALL BORN EQUAL;
    TO TEACH THEM RIGHT FROM WRONG, AND, EVEN, HOW TO SEPARATE THE SINGER FROM THE SONG.
    WE ARE A GODLY NATION, WHATEVER THAT IMPLIES, ALL ARE FREE TO WORSHIP, IN WHATEVER GUISE. SO BEAR IN MIND THE PRECEPT, IF IN DOUBT YOU MUST,
    “WE ARE ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, AND IN GOD WE TRUST.”

    • chuck b

      dahni

      great, and really tells it like it is.

  • Personal Accountability

    Can’t wait for November 2nd. It is going to read like a great book. So excited, so excited. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Early voting is going on right this minute. Google and find your early voting destination. Good Luck to everyone. May the best candidates win.

  • Bitter Libertarian

    I did not have the time to read everyones reply, but Bob said; “the left’s favorite gambit, the politics of envy. For more than a hundred years, their lackeys in the media, our schools, in labor unions and worst of all, in government, have used class warfare in their effort to divide and conquer us.” 100% correct …..

    And every politician, on both sides of the Isle who had the watch, allowed it. That is a FACT as well. I’m not worried though, for if we dont fix the political & monetary landscape in America…Nov will fix 1-3% of the problems….Nov 2012 another 2-4% change…and the Bolchevicks will keep winning and eliminating the Constitution.

    • JC

      “Socialism is the philosophy of failure,
      the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy.”
      Winston Churchill

  • Personal Accountability

    Lots of talk of Religion. In most of the middle east there is NO distinction between what we call Church matters and State matters. Take care.

  • Philip C.

    Have you noticed that throughout history, all the great empires have had about a 200 year run before collapsing? Something to think about, huh?

  • TIME

    Hello people,
    Perhap rather that Dem v Rep, we can get down to the bass.
    We are at the end of what was once a Great Nation, and we are moving very fast toward the complete and total end of it.

    I have spent the last 6 days checking out what I am about to post to be sure it is all 100% true, you will start to see all these plans unfold before your eyes within the next few months.

    **)First; In 2008 Barry Soetoro gave a speach in Clolrado Springs about a “Civilian Security force” that would be as large as our Armed total forces.

    I am also sure you all recall Congressman Rangel’s issues from just a few months ago. Well Old Rangle to save himself is going to be rehabilitated by bring forth a bill to start a “Civilian Security force.”
    Thats rights folks Barry Speach comes to life, Barry can’t bring it up as it would prove all of us right that have said Barrys plans and actions are no differant than Nazi Germany in the 1930′s so his masters are using Rangle to do it.
    Look for this before the new year and or just after to make its way into the media.
    > Reasons why it will be voted on and why it will pass are as follows. We have high unemployment within the ranks of the young folks ages 18- 30 its 45% nation wide.
    Thus it will create JOBS, and well we all know how that sells.

    ** Next is the control of YOUR 401K’s and Retirement funds.
    This as well will be coming within the next few months, YOU will not have a single thing to say about it, Barrys crew has figured out a way to take YOUR money with out you being able to do anything about it.
    In plain words whats in your 401 K or your CD’s you will be forced to buy worthless bonds that produce .001% over a 30 year period of time. In plain words YOUR money will be taken from you and placed in the the Social Security funds that are paid out to Illegals.

    So what will happen in the next 2 years, as far as I see it we have the Republicans already laying claim that the Tea Party people will not be allowed to do anything and the old progressives within the reb party will block them from any power.
    Thus in “2012 if we even have a vote left”, they need to go.
    During the period of time from now until them send EMAILS to them daily, keep records of them save a file or print it off, Send letters Fax’s and keep them on file too.

    As to the Democtats left the same will apply. I am rather sure that in the end this all will come down to what I posted as the first point, but being used to controll you not unlike the SA and SS did in Nazi Germany in the 1930′s.
    They will be on the streets to keep you in order and collect anyone who may be a threat. Yes, the Hard Core Face of the Progressive Marxist will be clearly shown to you all very soon.

    • Angel

      Good job, TIME – play the Nazi card. Man, you are one nutty bugger.

  • Palin12

    Sharron Angle up by 4.0 today. The party’s over Harry. Go home to Searchlight where you won’t have to smell the tourists in Washington anymore. You’ve just been Daschled!

    • Marie Mandel

      Sharon Angle is real nutcase. Tee woman needs to be interned.

  • Wayne

    Yep! wee need to fire Dirty Harry, Nancy Pelosi, Barneyn Frank, tax cheat Charlie Rangel, Maxine Waters, and oh so many more, and the rest of the Liberal rat’s nest. Their time is drawing near.

  • chuck b

    remember one thing if harry reid is dethroned and the democrats retain control, they will hit us in the face with charles schumer. do you think it will change anything? schumer is one obnoxious politician, how do the demos do it, they always have one worse waiting in the wings.

    • Angel

      Schumer is a tougher SOB than Harry ever was.

      • Wayne

        Let’s hope the people in his district gets enough gumption to take him out next election. I don’t trust Schumer either.

  • ONTIME

    We are a nation of immigrants, another lesson we seem to have forgotten. There is need to remember this, nothing is certain but we came here to make the best of what we had and improve our fortunes, the kicker is nothing is written in stone(except all that liberals lie about) and we as a Republic have made a experimental mess of what we were asked to maintain and nurture by our founders, now we begin to reinstate the country we all believe in.

    This chance to begin again was declared, we are fortunate and now the long hard road back to reality is going to be a step at a time and that is something we cannot waste. Providence may be our hope but time is not on our side, there is much to do, this election is hard fought but it is just a step, the path we tread is steep and fraught with danger and the promise of what the founding fathers asked us to always maintain and pass on, the torch of freedom endowed to us by our Creator….Let’s not muck it up with this socialstic nonsense again, with faith, hope and charity we can continue to be America the promised land.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      “Providence may be our hope but time is not on our side, there is much to do, this election is hard fought but it is just a step, the path we tread is steep and fraught with danger and the promise of what the founding fathers asked us to always maintain and pass on, the torch of freedom endowed to us by our Creator….Let’s not muck it up with this socialstic nonsense again, with faith, hope and charity we can continue to be America the promised land.”

      This new trail needs a new shoes. The ones made from the hide of an ass & elephant are worn out and painful.

  • Angel

    The election results are in: the corporate elites – less than 1% of the country – win again and we continue to lose. Conservatism used to stand for principles. Now it is a shill for corporate greed. Every (and I mean every) law, tax, regulation, and policy enacted serves the beast and punishes the rest of us.

    The free market has not been more secure in this country right now than it ever has in the last 100 years.

    Socialist president? Oh my god – get an education. These inaccurate labels are not only turning the conservative movement into a collection of crackpots, it is turning away decent people who share most of our values and beliefs.

  • Charley41

    Yea,,, we are in the ditch now and if we don’t take them out of office Tues. we are done for ever! If we do it right this time we get another chance 2012. But getting America to make wise chooses is a real problem. We seem to be limited on good solid canidates with character that warrents our vote.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      There are many excellent candidates out there, problem is they wont all fit into the 2 party machine. Choices: Continue to accept lousey results with limited choices, swap your current support to other candidates no matter what party they are in.

      If we constantly go for the prepackaged, media supported, cookie cutter cut candidates we get exactly what we deserve.

  • LST

    i voted early via absentee ballot, and it was a pleasure to do so this time, and allow us to clean house! Bush and Obummer both are pond scum, Busah started the disaster this country is in, and Obummer has made it only worse, far worse. Let us see if we can survive another two years of that maggot in the White House, but at least we can begin the process of cleaning up with new state governors, and the senates, it’ll be a great start. Vote the scum out!

  • chuck b

    if we don’t stop this immigration of illegals and deport the ones we have, then get control of the voting system it’s all over anyway.
    america’s generosity has been trampled on.

    we need a mild revolution, that is, clean the house from top to bottom.
    stop all emigration for the nest five years, remove the majority of illegals, we can keep those that are identified and given green cards to work, “not voting rights.” change the 14th amendment.
    bring our troops back from the middle east, this is a not a football game over there, we are losing many of our most precious resource on the battlefield, fighting under a ridiculous rule of engagement, set by a man that has never fired a rifle or stood up for his country.
    we can still make america what it is supposed to be, but first we have to get over the republican/democrat syndrome and do what is best for the country not personal gain. the best for this country at this moment is to vote out all the left wing liberals, rino’s and vote in people of conservative values.

  • GreenClover

    Take back America, is correct. Over 200+ yrs. America has survived wars, invasions, depression, etc. so we can’t let the country fall during our generation.

    TIME magazine is now talking about a civil war being possible in America. Need to read a great book out that where destiny may be calling us to be a part of history. I recommend it. It’s powerful!
    http://www.booksbyoliver.com

  • http://none Jim

    The monetary system is the root of our problems today. Yes, the Constitutional form of money was changed at Jekyll Island, GA. where a paper money Creature [the Federal Reserve] was created. This “Change” continues to erode our foundation, the Constitution, through a changeless government-bank amalgamation controling, or seeking to control, more and more of every sector of the nation- legal, social, and economic.

    The modern agents of monetary change have their origins in Europe, and their activity reaches far into antiquity and to Rome. They have been at it for a very long, long, time. However, the founding fathers knew this and guarded against the practice by setting up a bi-metal, or hard money, monetary system.

    Consider what one modern money changer [Rothschild] circa the early 1750s thought about money- don’t remember the exact quote. So, I’ll paraphrase it like this: “I do not care who makes the laws, if I make the currency.”

    Now comprehend the far reaching scope of what was just said. Today, we must stop talking about the congress and the president as if they were going to control the Federal Reserve, because the fix is in. It just won’t happen. If you or I were actually to get elected and assume the responsibilities of a public office, we would come face to face with how things really are. If you and I vote this way or that way, we get rewarded. If we vote the wrong way, no rewards- austerity. Simply put, the currency crowd delivers or does not. How much money would you or I like to see appear into our off-shore bank accounts? Everyone has a price, what’s yours, what’s mine? So, how long would you or I want to go with, or without, any grannola bars in our cupboards? Figure! How long are we in office?

    We should not join our politicians and pundants by participating in the blame game, pointing to mysterious market forces, economic cycles, the congress, or to the president. Pointing to this or to that red-herring issue and debating endlessly about fixes, is a waste of time and is misleading. We should be talking more about the Constitution, how it has been changed, read it, know it, and get those we send into governance to do the same.

    There is a Supremecy Clause in the U.S.Constitution; it’s time for the states and the people to see that it is enforced, if the Court wont. What the states giveth the states can take away. Just take our liberty back. If representation fails us, then God help us. Liberty is Heaven Born. God Bless America. In God We Trust!

    Thank You Fox News for supporting the Founding Fathers and the U.S. Constitution, a Legacy of Liberty left to us.

  • chuck b

    jim

    what you say is all well and good, however, what are we supposed to do wave the constitution at these liberal politicians and everything will be alright? nothing will change unless the people we elect make the effort, they make the laws and can change them, if they don’t then we can remove them, by vote or by force.
    complacency, along with an ignorant block of voters are partly responsible for this crisis. i don’t think anyone should be allowed to vote unless they have some knowledge of our heritage and the constitution. and i think everyone should prove their citizenship before they are allowed to run for public office or vote. then we should have a voter identity card, if they could make one that’s tamper proof.

    • http://none Jim

      Thanks for the reply chuck b. You understand our situation very well. However, it’s not so much a matter of waving the constitution at career-type politicians, as it is to send the message that “We the People” expect that they adhere to their oath to defend the
      constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Today, very few in Congress stand up for the constitution on the money issue. I believe that I explained why most won’t in my opinion. Damn, they don’t even have to read a piece of legislation before they cast a vote on it. Is that doing their job? The Court has failed us in
      many ways. The Congress has, therefore, been given licence to do business as usual. The game is rigged. Both parties continue this businesss as usual charade [tax and spend] with the printing press behind their lavish expenditures, while citizens who put these representatives in office continue to get swindled out of their property and are thrown deeper into debt.

      Sending a message appears to be happening today, with the Tea Party and the presence of an alternative media outlet- Fox News. Republicans, beware is what I say; and, you’re next if it’s busiess as usual. Yes, they can be removed, as many are about to be. Down the road, the more people that learn about the money issue and about the wreckage that inflation has caused to populations throughtout history, the federal reserve’s shell game will end. Knowledge is power. We the people are that power, and we need to exercise it. More people need to get smart on important issues. It seems that it is happening. Thirty years ago there was no alternative media in the united states, and certainly there was nothing, nothing at all, to compare with the tea party movement. So, yes, for the time being throw the bums out.

      On the other hand, you are correct in alluding to the use of force. However, the second amendment is the very last resort in righting the wrongs of a government’s tyrany, indifference, and cavaler disregard for the rights of it’s people. My recommendation is that we the people first get smart on the issues that are important and use the force of public opinion to shame and embarrass demos and rhinos, or anyone else who fails to cut the mustard while in office. The voice of the people is more powerful than guns.

      You are also “right on” about the vote and citizenship. Only lately, it seems, have we a question about an office holder’s citizenship. It’s in the courts, so there’s not much to say about it now. A valid birth certificate with a valid driver licence might help with validating voter identy, but I am not too sure. Citizenship is very important, however. Travelers throughout the Americas may have noticed that most of the posted political banners say: “Vote Comunismo”. A graduated progressive income tax is the second plank in Carl Marx’s Communist Manifesto, and the progressive era gave it to us with a “New Deal” too, which incidently, was dealt from the bottom of the deck. The income tax, like the federal reserve, is a foreign implant and it’s method of tax collection is an abomination to both the letter and spirit of the U.S. Constitution. I do not like the presidents “change” theme or the support that illegal’s would give to his communist agenda. Since the 1980′s I have viewed our country as simply being the USSA, due to a real breakdown in representation, a departure from the Constitution, and nothing but manipulation and more controls.

      Not until this election has there been as many courageous state representatives and a groundswell of informed voters who have an opportunity to change this country back again to operating on the major principles and powers that are enumerated in our Constitution. Presently, the federal government is very dysfunctional in both recognizing and performing it’s duties, especially in matters concerning the dollar and illegals.

      By the way, what is an illegal immigrant? Do not all immigrants go through the legality of a formal immigration process before becoming a permanent citizen? The term an illegal immigrant is an oxymoron. Imigrants they are not; are they not simply “illegals”, who enter and AVOID the established legal process for perminent
      residency?

      As for the federal reserve, I am reminded of Abraham Lincoln’s words, which the federal reserve should start banking on. It goes something like this: You can fool some of the people some of the time, and you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time. In time, We the People will demand an end to this Guttenberg government, and through our representatives CHANGE and replace it gradually, piece by piece, as we transition back to our Constitution. America Awaken!

  • Kerry

    You people are all right , but all wrong, like the 10 blind men describing an elephant you each have a limited view of what is happening in our country, My personal opinion is The Rise Of Chinese and other asian imports since 1971 taking away jobs from dumasses like me and all the other people that were not born with the desire or ability to succeed,moreover the rise in the foreign influx of cheap, docile labor (mostly from the southern regions of our continent) that will cause the ruin of our country just like it destroyed the roman and egyptian civilizations.

  • chuck b

    kerry

    what do think caused the rise of imports from foreign countries? do you think it might be the stringent environmental policies of the epa and the cost of labor? that’s where i would place the blame. what caused the auto manufacturing to go under, could it be exorbitant union contracts, i think so. there’s no doubt the illegals are having an impact on the labor market, so what do our politicians want to do, they want to give them amnesty and allow these people to stay. this will be the first thing on their mind after the election, depending on who wins. secondly they will be pushing the cap & tax bill, do you think this wll help your cause? absolutely not.

  • BrotherPatriot

    Haven’t had time to read responces so hope I’m not posting sumtin that already has been put up…but I couldn’t wait to share!

    http://theintelhub.com/2010/10/15/wayne-madsen-white-house-in-crisis/
    :D Can you smell the fear? The truth is coming out! :D

  • Starvin’ Larry

    sean moor says:

    It’s Jekyll island,and it had a club where all the rich “elites” would spend time. Big deal. This,and all the Bilderberger BS are just that-BS. the Bilderberger group does exist,but has zero actual control over anything. All part of the new world order conspiracy BS.
    The Bilderberg group was named that because it was the name of a hotel where they met. They can only try to influence the various governments,they do not “control” them.

    None of this has anything to do with the current mess the US is in. Most of this mess started with the environmental whackos having too much say over how things were manufactured,which made the laws so expensive,and difficult to comply with,it was more cost effective for the manufacturing companies to move out of the US. Plus the absurd pay and benefits demanded by unions,who slowed production speed,and punished members who actually tried to work hard. Then you had the morons on the far left forcing banks to make loans which were so high risk,the banks knew most would default. This led to the “bundles” of securities being packaged as a safe investment,when they actually contained all the bad loans,then the big banks bet against themselves,they knew the housing market would collapse. They didn’t know it would bring down the investment banks.
    Then,Bush bvailed out the banks,Nobama bailed out GM and Chrysler,and the left started dumping cash into the system(newly printed),and ran up the debt.
    Now,we are screwed,unless the Dems lose power.

  • chuck b

    starvin larry

    that’s he way i see it.

  • chuck b

    “that’s the way i see it”

  • http://GOGGLE vaksal

    WEll,i wont put the horse in front of the cart,but the sooner we get this republic on the right foot again the better,as a conservative,we as americans,best get our money system in order first,and by that is to get rid of the federal reserve corp.its making this nation tank,with all the funny money it has been printing,second time to embrace the very laws that made this nation united and stong,and that is the(UNITED STATES COSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS,then revoke (NAFTA)and make the employer laws user friendly,and get them back by protecting there products from those overseas,that copy those products with license,start building up this nations job base with real industrial jobs,electronics manufacturing,shipbuliding,wind generating manufacturing,and real jobs,not service related jobs like dishwashing,or gardening,and start producing american made clothes,and american made products,but sadly everyone of those small mentioned industries have been moved because of the negative enviroment that has been pushed by those who wanted those industries pushed to the point of overtaxing,and demanding regulations and every known law known to man,well all we have to do is look around,government and more government regulations,and whos to blame,truthfully,everyone dumocrats and rhinos alike,for letting this agenda happen,but sady we the american people are guility for not firing these self serving low lifes long ago,hopefully mabye this election we get people voted in that will look after the american people needs over their own parties demografics,and wants.its time for everyone to embrace the american reality,that freedom breeds free men and free women that work harder,than an enslaved nation,that is economicly enslaved by a foreign run banking system and that system is the (FEDERAL RESERVE CORP.)owned indirectly by owners outside this nations shore,and this has happened all under both of the parties incumbants,its time for change all right,its time to give them all their pink slips and get control of this mess,these gold spooned ivy leauge masters of the universe have made,its time to throw government out of the private bussiness owners affairs,as far as foreign owned corperations let them hit the road if they corrupt any american elected employee,massive fines and that may make them think twice about destroying american owned bussiness by undercutting prices of american made goods,if not we will all be on a breadline and soup line,and i do mean everyone,for we are going down for the final count,so lets think about dumping these self serving bums and elect some honest men and women with real values,with real morals,not a godless agenda.(THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN A POWER GREATER THAN THEIR POLITICAL CAREERS,AND ARROGANT OUTLOOKS OF BEING GREATER THAN THE AMERICAN VOTER,THEIR EMPLOYER AND PROVIDER,THAT HAS FED THEM MORE THAN THEY DESERVED FOR GENERATIONS,WHEN ALL THEY HAVE GIVEN US IS THE OUTLOOK OF WE ALL ARE NO MORE THAN SO MUCH DIRT UNDER THEIR SHOES,TIME TO SMELL THE STINK AND ITS FROM THESE ANTI-AMERICAN BUMS IN OFFICE,AND THEY HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE FAR TOO LONG.THE POINT IS GET OUT AND VOTE.

  • DaveH
  • http://mohanarun.com Mohan Arun L.

    Every ‘socialist’ should read this. I have always been holding that Govt must source the money that it doles out so freely and readily based on the decisions of petty politicians, from the profits of doing free enterprise on its own, just like how all the other people source their money by working for others or by doing business, and not by taxing people who dont want to give. Which means: I refuse to pay tax if I dont see the Government working for me or working to meet my best interests.

    ‘Not Yours To Give’ by Davy Crockett:

    The power of collecting and disbursing money at pleasure is the most dangerous power that can be intrusted to man, particularly under our system of collecting revenue by a tariff, which reaches every man in the country, no matter how poor he may be, and the poorer he is the more he pays in proportion to his means.

    “‘What is worse, it presses upon him without his knowledge where the weight centers, for there is not a man in the United States who can ever guess how much he pays to the government. So you see, that while you are contributing to relieve one, you are drawing it from thousands who are even worse off than he.

    “‘If you had the right to give anything, the amount was simply a matter of discretion with you, and you had as much right to give $20,000,000 as $20,000. If you have the right to give to one, you have the right to give to all; and, as the Constitution neither defines charity nor stipulates the amount, you are at liberty to give to any and everything which you may believe, or profess to believe, is a charity, and to any amount you may think proper. You will very easily perceive what a wide door this would open for fraud and corruption and favoritism, on the one hand, and for robbing the people on the other. No, Colonel, Congress has no right to give charity.

    “‘Individual members may give as much of their own money as they please, but they have no right to touch a dollar of the public money for that purpose.

    • DaveH

      Good Post, Mohan.

  • Zeromonet

    After several years of ‘rooting out’ our family trees, I discovered that 3 of my family members were on the Mayflower. Since then many races have been mxed into my blood and most recently in the late 1800′s to early 1900′s there was an enormous mix of Choctaw blood pumped into my veins. I am an American first. I take huge offense and am very sick of the term ‘racist’. So much so that I never care to hear it spoken in any context ever again. Americans have lost in some way what it meant to be Americans. I have never taken a dime from government, we have only supplied to government and I am tired, really tired of hearing and reading that we do not pay enough. What else do they want? The little blood that’s left? I’d like to see the race card shoved back into the pockets of the true haters.

  • jerry b b

    Ilike this post by vaksal it is strait to the point. I have read many post that say how bad these politicans are. I have seen take out the trash novbember 2.and i haven’t seen how this trash got in the government exsplained. I will make a lot of you mad but the truth is the trash voted them in.If good straight thinking up right people had voted right they wouldn’t be in the government. When people want something and work to pay for it or it is given freely that is good. when people want something and it is taken from some that has paid for it and given to them that is stealing on the receivers and the people that are giving. If you don’t belive this just take your neighbor’s car sell it and give the money to your friend.You will be charged with thieft and your friend will be charged with receiving stolen property.these government hand outs and give aways created by the government are not by the constution it is how the trash has highjackedthe government by buying the trash’s votes. I don’t realy have a good answer to how you can stop this from happening but these liberal policies( give aways) are bankrupting our country both finanicaly and moraly. It has been said more than once that you can only give other people’s money away until it runs out. The government and special interest people have regulated and taxed too many business out of busines. That is mostly why the jobs are so called going over seas. the government has signed on to this so called free trade(global). These big money men that have a strangle hold on our country are going global and importing withno or very little restrants.we the people will have our job layed out for us if we are to prevale. we will hav to educicate the people and the media is not going to help because this trash has it on their side. a good start if you can get i done would be to stop the federal reserv.

  • Anthony

    Yet another great Article – filled with Family History, making the point all the more succinct.

    CUDOS, Chip — I enjoy the read, every time!

    Liberals will call Chip’s mother’s attitude about Charity as PRIDE.

    I call it – telling the whole world WE ARE NOT WEAK.

    As for who has given us this perversion, this Police State filled with fascism and unknowing-fascist-behaviors?

    Well that would be the Banking Cabal, known around the Planet, as the WORLD BANK, along with it’s many Puppet Banks –aka: THE FEDERAL RESERVE.

    BARB – You clicked the mouse far too quiclky in your responses about THE FED.

    INSTEAD – you could have/should have gone to YouTube and typed in exactly that and almost instantly found everything you didn’t want to know about this very private non-tax-paying corporation that answers to NO ONE … NOT EVEN CONGRESS.

    In fact – you have it competely backwards – Congress reports to those who control OUR currency.

    There are several books out there, folks, that will get you well-informed very quickly if you have the temerity to simply look it up – BEFORE the IRAN-wannabe government we have finally decides to shut down this (?) french-underground arena we call the Wild Web.

    IRAN shut down their Internet several years ago – only allowing state-sponsored website traffic. What do you think would happen to this website and every other truth bearing webpage if they do the same here?

    News for ye — Obama now has exactly that power, to do so at any time, for at least 4 months straight, or longer, if the Police State wishes it. Google that up, if you have spine enough.

    G Edward Griffin, wrote a Book called: The Creature From Jekyll Island.

    There is a Documentary you can watch on Google Videos: The Money Masters

    G. Edward, himself, provides the voice on the YouTube Federal Reserve Videos

    It gets better -

    A Hollywood Movie Producer, who did THE ROSE and several other movies, also produced a Documentary called: FROM FREEDOM TO FASCISM

    His name is Aaron Russo.

    You want your Country back – I suggest (highly recommend) that you make it a point to research these items I have pointed out.

    Once you have see the above – I also advise that you begin searching online using the words you have heard to see what else you may find that also provides even more supporting evidence on the 16th & 17th Amendments.

    When combined – these three things – below – make up what is now termed the SILENT REVOLUTION of 1913. Oh, it didn’t happen all at once. The stuff of Government Coup’s never do … but, at least have the guts to involve yourselves in reality for a change. Look into this and make your own minds up….. or don’t.

    “Bad things happen when good men do nothing”

    You just gonna sit there and wait for a speilberg commercial?

    Seriously – we are living in a national tammany hall america

    I, for one, would change that…. and right now !

    • Anthony

      Those 3 things (below) are:

      1. The Federal Reserve Bill
      2. Income tax – 16th Amendment (was it legally ratified?)
      3. General Elections for Senators 17th Amendment

      This last one – is a perversion of our Original Constitution which says Senators will be appointed, not generally-elected. They will be appointed by their State legislatures who then retain the Right of Recall, at any time they so deem it necessary – which means them finding out that someone else has bought off their elected official and that Senator is no longer truly representing the Stae they came from….. SOUND FAMILIAR ?

      THIS IS, the Silent Revolution of 1913

      • DaveH

        I believe that the original requirement for Senators to be appointed by the State was an effort to keep them from representing the Federal Government rather than representing the State Government (as it should be).

  • FreedomFighter

    ======

    the growing interest in the nullification movement. Thomas Jefferson had the right idea about how the states could stop an out-of-control Federal government: Just say no!

    The revolution starts next Tuesday. I hope you enjoy it.

    Until next time, keep some powder dry.

    =======

    Looking forward to it.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • Steve and Tama

    You know, ousting the feds is not really the problem. Secession is not really the answer. Changing the hearts–the real desires and ambitions–of all those in power, from the district manager, mayor, and all to the president of companies and our country, is the real soulution (spelling intended). Our people and leaders have sown to the wind, expecting a wonderful harvest, but we are reaping a whirlwind of evil repercussions of greed (of the heart): destruction. America is waking up. This is good. We are our brother’s keeper. This does not mean wealth redistribution. It means give as it’s been given to you. If the gov’t keeps taking away from people, people have nothing to give. Remember, we are not our own Master: we serve God or mammon.

    • Jana

      Steve and Tama,
      Very good post and very right on.

  • Wayne

    Let’s show NObama and his Zombies that they can’t pull the wool over our eyes. Let’s show them that we are smart enough to see what their Socialist ideas is going to do to this nation. Open your eyes, be objective, and vote for the right person on Novermber 2nd. Let’s keep the country we had enjoyed for the last 200 years plus. Look at all the great inventions, and ideas that has sprung from the free market place. Look at most of the things you are enjoying right now. This came from a free market place with no, or very little government intrusion. Let’s srive to keep it that way. Let’s not block the free flowing ideas from great minds that made this country great. If you vote for the liberals, all the things I mentioned above will be stymied, and will be lost. Vote for the Conservatives who still believe in America’s Constitution.

    • Wayne

      Again, excuse my typos. I meant strive, not stive. I guess it the keyboard that makes the mistakes, not me. Ha.

  • Kerry

    You all probably drive toyotas,hondas, kias,vws,volvos,then you go to wal mart and buy chinese,thai,malaysian,indian,or taiwanese products ,then you have the gall to bloviate about job loss in our wonderful country ,hypocrites all, why hell you probably all own your own import businasses sucking the last blood left in our fragile economy, why hell you probably have an all illegal immigrant workforce working for you , you and your kind are ticks on the dog.

    • Anthony

      This posting makes absolutely NO sense ….at all.

      The marketplace is where humans provide goods & services for other humans.

      The time to avoid MADE IN CHINA or MADE IN JAPAN, etc., etc. … has always been a personal one. Most people I know, who have the smarts to invest in America, usually do while avoiding Wall Street if at all possible. Where they shop, here, helps pay the salaries of fellow Americans …. any other reproachment tends to lead to sophistry.

      It’d be different if all the WalMart employees were green card carrying non-americans …. yet, they aren’t. So, avoidance of shopping just about anywhere would hurt those good americans who are simply trying to have a life.

      Sure, you could look for small town shops run by locals …
      I do that all the time – but, still, you must go where your budget demands, too.

      • Kerry

        Anthony I think you are missing the point,I was just saying that people in our country are unemployed because we no longer manufacture our own products, not everyone is college material, these people can function and contribute to society by doing work with their hands and when you buy their products you are not sending americas wealth overseas, where it never comes back ,what have the communist chinese ever done for us? do you want to work for them? and by the way wal mart at one time did indeed offer goods made in the U.S. but abandoned them due to corporate greed,and another thing go ask a wal mart employee how much they earn(7.50 per hr.)legal(6.25)green card

        • Claire

          Kerry— Good post.

    • http://none Jim

      Kerry,

      If memory serves me well, it was our very own federal government that rewarded corporations with tax incentives, and others, to move out of the United States en masse- part of free trade. Having created a significant job loss after sponsoring the mass exodus, now the federal government is going to save us by creating “shovel-ready” jobs, a central government policy approach that was implementated and duplicated by progressives in our country and the Third Reich at about the same time. Wow, things are just getting wonderful!

      • Kerry

        Jim, memory does serve you well ,someone sold the U.S.out a long time ago and the american public thought it was chic and in the interest of competition to buy imported products, and to be fair U.S products were designed with “planned obsolescence” in mind,however we have become a nation of salesmen ,selling foreign goods to ourselves and losing the skills and expertise that have kept the rest of the world at bay, make no mistake !your country cannot survive without skilled workers who actually produce something real ,like guns and ammo, beans and corn, wood and steel!

    • http://none Jim

      OMG! …and where do you shop? lol

      • Kerry

        Jim I have found that some industrial companies such as Grainger still offer products made in the U.S and have found them to be of excellent Quality and design they might cost more but they last for a longer period of time .

        • http://none Jim

          KERRY, You’re right about the production thing. Yes, we need to buy Made-In-America products. Shipping our production overseas and becoming an import nation is nothing less than a colonial status
          among nations. We are being equity-stripped. Foreign interests, influencing our central government, have not only taken the plantation away, they’ve removed our work overseas too. It is all part of the free-trade plan, hatched in the British Admiralty, I believe, shortly after our civil war. From what I’ve read, free trade is designed to funnel resources of the world to the center. The center produces finished products for world market consumption. It is seems that we are not at the center. The boys at Harvard, and elsewhere, have informed us that we can be a Service Economy among nations, in this new world order. So, services we will do: You will scratch my back; and, I will scratch your back, but nothing will be made or produced. I’m not an economist. Technic may bail us out; don’t know! It’s complex. However, if the Service Economy notion is supposed to be a solution, it is definately later than we think. Yes, buy stuff Made in the USA, when you find it!

  • T.J.

    OBAMA’S COLLEGE ROOMMATE SPEAKS OUT

    By Wayne Allyn Root, June 6th, 2010

    Barack Hussien Obama is no fool.

    He is not incompetent.

    To the contrary, he is brilliant.

    He knows exactly what he’s doing.

    He is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos — thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within.

    Barack Hussien Obama is my college classmate ( Columbia University , class of ’83).He is a devout Muslim

    do not be fooled. Look at his Czars…anti-business..anti- American

    As Glenn Beck correctly predicted from day one,

    Barack Hussien Obama is following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University .

    They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands.

    Add up the clues below.

    Taken individually they’re alarming.

    Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival … and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government.

    Why not?

    They have no responsibility to pay for it.

    – Universal health care.

    The health care bill had very little to do with health care.

    It had everything to do with unionizing millions of hospital and health care workers, as well as adding 15,000 to 20,000 new IRS agents (who will join government employee unions). Obama doesn’t care that giving free health care to 30 million Americans will add trillions to the national debt. What he does care about is that it cements the dependence of those 30 million voters to Democrats and big government. Who but a socialist revolutionary would pass this reckless spending bill in the middle of a depression?

    – Cap and trade.

    Like health care legislation having nothing to do with health care, cap and trade has nothing to do with global warming.

    It has everything to do with redistribution of income, government control of the economy and a criminal payoff to Obama’s biggest contributors.

    Those powerful and wealthy unions and contributors (like GE, which owns NBC, MSNBC and CNBC) can then be counted on to support everything Obama wants.

    They will kick-back hundreds of millions of dollars in contributions to Obama and the Democratic Party to keep them in power. The bonus is that all the new taxes on Americans with bigger cars, bigger homes and businesses helps Obama “spread the wealth around.”

    – Make Puerto Rico a state.

    Why?

    Who’s asking for a 51st state?

    Who’s asking for millions of new welfare recipients and government entitlement addicts in the middle of a depression?

    Certainly not American taxpayers.

    But this has been Barack Hussien Obama’s plan all along.

    His goal is to add two new Democrat senators, five Democrat congressman and a million loyal Democratic voters who are dependent on big government.

    – Legalize 12 million illegal Mexican immigrants.

    Just giving these 12 million potential new citizens free health care alone could overwhelm the system and bankrupt America .

    But it adds 12 million reliable new Democrat voters who can be counted on to support big government.

    Add another few trillion dollars in welfare, aid to dependent children, food stamps, free medical, education, tax credits for the poor, and eventually Social Security.

    – Stimulus and bailouts.

    Where did all that money go?

    It went to Democrat contributors, organizations (ACORN), and unions — including billions of dollars to save or create jobs of government employees across the country.

    It went to save GM and Chrysler so that their employees could keep paying union dues.

    It went to AIG so that Goldman Sachs could be bailed out (after giving Obama almost $1 million in contributions). A staggering $125 billion went to teachers (thereby protecting their union dues).

    All those public employees will vote loyally Democrat to protect their bloated salaries and pensions that are bankrupting America . The country goes broke, future generations face a bleak future, but Obama, the Democrat Party, government, and the unions grow more powerful. The ends justify the means.

    – Raise taxes on small business owners, high-income earners, and job creators. Put the entire burden on only the top 20 percent of taxpayers, redistribute the income, punish success, and reward those who did nothing to deserve it (except vote for Obama). Reagan wanted to dramatically cut taxes in order to starve the government. Barack Obama wants to dramatically raise taxes to starve his political opposition.

    With the acts outlined above, Barack Hussien Obama and his regime have created a vast and rapidly expanding constituency of voters dependent on big government; a vast privileged class of public employees who work for big government; and a government dedicated to destroying capitalism and installing themselves as socialist rulers by overwhelming the system.

    Add it up and you’ve got the perfect Marxist scheme — all devised by my Columbia University college classmate

    Barack Hussien Obama using the Cloward and Piven Plan.

    True per snopes!

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/overwhelm.asp

    • Anthony

      It’s actually a misnomer to think that “cutting taxes will starve Government”.

      Reaganomics, proved (hands down) that cutting taxes causes people to spend money … and to invest all the more. During the Reagan Years, the receipts to the Government Treasury rose more than at any other time in the History of our Country. It’s easily verified for anyone who wishes to simple google-up.

      At the same time – the DEM-controlled Congress tripled & quadrupled their spending habits. It wasn’t until Gingrich that they at least attempted to stem that spending – but, then you had a DEM POTUS who had no intention of doing anything, but push JOBS out of this Country and bribe the masses with a re-written FANNIE MAE/FREDDIE MAC Mission Stetement. Handing out Home Loans to anyone and everyone – no matter what the Credit Score might be.

      During this same time period – Bill Clinton signed NAFTA & GATT — both of which sealed the deal on transfering JOBS off shore – to other Countries… whether that means Mexico, or any of the other Central America Countries or to China & Japan.

      Yes, that’s right – it was those faithful People-supporting DEMS who shoved jobs out of America … and with Obama, they are not likely to come back.

      So far, since late 2008, with Harry Reid in charge of the Senate and Pelosi running the House, a transfer of over $20-trillion has occurred – that’s America Wealth … sent overseas – bailing out foreign banks, etc. Including the George Soros Crowd of whom the Clintons are seriously INSIDERS.

      Reagan was the last honest President.

      Everyone since then, has used our Country to raise their own personal wealth at our expense. You do realize that AL GORE, the hotel-living/room-service politician is now a Multi-billionaire who has no intention of re-ditributing his wealth to any of you… You do know that, right? Hell, his heat bill for one month is around $2,000.

      This blind patriotism for the left has to be based on fear and certainly a truckload of pure ignorance.

      I would recommend you take it was a serious grain o’ salt, that your so-called Leaders are NOT whom you should be looking to, for real & honest answers. You won’t be getting any. You will be told what they want, so you will do exactly what they will profit from.

      If you are coming here, for any length of time and reading Bob’s Articles and wealth of information – there is only one extrapolation to the evidence. YOU’VE BEEN HAD and in a BIG way.

      Time to quit living on your knees, people.

      • http://none Jim

        Anthony, you said that it’s actually a misnomer to thinkthat “cutting taxes will starve Government”. I agree 100%. Government expenditures are financed through the FED since the FED’s creation. The tresury can go to its printing press without collecting a dime in taxes from anyone. Tax collection today does not fund government, it merely mitigates against the effects of an ever increasing inflation,
        but on a small scale. That is, the tax collector simply removes a portion of the FED’s curency [not Dollars] from circulation. However, they’ll never be able to tax us enough to keep up with the rate at which congress goes to the press to spend more and more. Presto, hyper-inflation is on the way! Look out America, wake up before it is too late.

    • Marie Mandel

      I can’t believe all the garbage I read. Where are you coming from? Are you insane? You are one hateful
      being.

      • Kate8

        Marie, Liberal Progressive thinking has been carefully crafted, engineered and indoctrinated into those who are vulnerable to being mind-controlled. And you will never be able to recognize it.

        You and your ilk are tools of tyrants. You continue to spout the same kind of rhetoric over and over, thinking repetition will make it valid. I am so sick of hearing ‘hate’ spewed at everyone with whom you libs disagree.

        Aside from the half-dozen token lefties here, no one takes anything you say seriously, except as insight into the liberal mind.

        I think we’ve got you pretty well pegged.

        • Marie Mandel

          You are curiously describing yourself!

  • Karolyn

    I’m posting at 1:37 est and watching Jon Stewart’s Rally to Restore Sanity. You might want to watch streaming live on cnn.com. It is wonderful! He even got Yusuf – formerly Cat Stevens- singing Peace Train. What a coup! What a wonderful, happy and peaceful rally! A nice break from all the vitriol.

    • DaveH

      Jon Stewart restoring Sanity? That’s a laugh. But then, I guess he is more experienced with insanity than most other people.

      • Karolyn

        It was wonderful to see the National Mall filled with people having fun and shouting “USA USA”, among other chants. It was a fun and patriotic gathering of people from all walks of life and ethnicities. I would say, before hearing any stats, that there were as many, if not more, people there as Glenn Beck’s rally. The main theme was pretty much “peace” and “let’s all get along.” He poked fun at the MSM, and they gave facetious awards to various people and venues. I don’t know if it’s true, but he gave awards to ABC, NPR and other networks because they would not allow their employees to attend. I think even you conservatives would have enjoyed it. It was totally non-partisan. He ended it with a speech basically about how great this country is and that we should not be focusing on the demise of the country (as so many are) but rather on the knowledge that we will prevail. Some of it was pretty schlocky, but the message was a good one.

        • Claire

          A guy I work with flew to DC with his girlfriend. He will be back to work on Monday so I will be interested to hear what he has to say. I watched some of it and it appeared to be rather entertaining. I also listened to some of the phone calls-people were calling in and 2 people said there were voting Democrat. I didn’t catch anymore after that.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          karolyn,
          Actually, wasn’t the complete title restore sanity and fear???

          • Claire

            Joe H — The title of the rally was “Restore Sanity and/or Fear”

        • Kerry

          They all probably got there in their imported cars,wearing their inported clothes and shoes,waving their american flags (made in china) talking on their cell phones (made in viet nam) and then wondered why nobody (except car salesmen and importers have any jobs Karolyn do you drive an import?

          • Claire

            I cannot answer for Karolyn, but I just bought a Chevy Impala. The way I look at it, I am supporting my tax dollars.

          • Karolyn

            200,000 people ALL wearing fancy clothes and dirivng imported cars. Give me a break! The people I saw just looked like Americans to me, and I didn’t see anybody on a cell phone. They were having too much fun! I drive a ’95 Escort Wagon.

    • Marie Mandel

      Yes Karolyn, it was a refreshing change from all the “insane” speeches we hear all too often these days.

  • JMichael

    OK, answer me this. If everything is the presidents fault(which ever one)then we get here in one or two terms-not likely. Then why do people keep sending the same reps. and senators back year after year? you say a few votes are going to change things-your delusional. Get rid of gerrymandering and set term limits. And, besides, if you can’t hear the politicians laughing behind our backs every time the talk about ethics in government- your deaf.

    • Anthony

      BECAUSE – they constantly think that running to the Television… is where they will get the best answers.

      It’s called: BoobTube Intelligence.

      The only people who really know what’s been going on for the last 100 years… is those who do their research at the Library or right here online.

      Everyone else, has volunteered to become slaves!

      • http://none Jim

        Anthony,

        Good job and right on, as usual.

  • Rose

    First of all, the housing problem began with Lyndon Johnson (Democrat), pushed further by Jimmy Carter (Democrat) and then ratified by Bill Clinton (Democrat) so Demos have been in power for 40+ years. So during Bush’s tenure, democrats were the villains so get over it. It is truly we who have not been vigilant and allowed those we voted in to ramrod stupid laws, taxes, fees, etc. through without our input as their employers. Blame is ours and stupidity is the governments both state and federal. However, we can blame them but it is OUR problem. We have shut our eyes to all the “groups” (called committees in Congress) who think they are gods and can command our obedience and money. Bring all governments back into a reasonable and manageable size and have them stick to the basics set out by all constitutions of states and America. Make sure our employees in any government is under our Social Security and insurance,and make sure their wages are reasonable, cut perks of all kinds and earmarks. If a state needs updating or repairs, well don’t let it get run as so many do and then whine they need monies. Take care of needs with what you have. I appreciate Gov. Christy in NJ for his stance on the tunnel and spending the money on infrastructure, which is the way all budgets should be and do. Remember under Bush unemployment under 5% (when I was young under 7% was considered good!), and did not bring about the housing problem. and now there is proof of war chemicals in Iraq but not promulgated to the “masses” via a media that is bought and paid for by God who knows! So Iraq was not a mistake. However, Afghanistan is and the prez won’t get us out of there!! So, let’s move on and get our votes for the right people on Tuesday as the first step in taking back our country. Be alert, informed, educated (and spelling is a part of education still), stand up for your rights, protest, and be ready to protect yourselves at all times during these perilous times.

  • CottonTopCox

    Nothing worse than the Atl. Const. Jor. Not even used in the out house around here. Cynthia whatever her name is now is a Black Mark on Auburn University where she attended and even graduated. A hog at the swine unit out scored her in several tests at AU. And look at what became of Atlanta itself. Overrun by Yankees that moved in when their corporate headquarter moved south. Metro area is sprawled out 40 miles in all directions like a big cancer. The black core is the real heart of the disease. More corruption than a pirate card game. No cure for that cancer will ever be found. Pity the poor counties north of Atlanta that used to be great rural places to live before the video screens in their eyes newcomers fleed the blacks to move in on the locals.

    We need a revisit by good ole Sherman.

  • CottonTopCox

    What happened? Did the entire scalawag Cox family go down in a plane crash? It’s Halloween but the treats can’t be that great so soon.

  • Jarrod Martens

    Hello from Canada, during the clinton years our govt pretty much took whatever money they could away from the military because it was fairly peaceful except for Yugoslavia where our troops were so hurtn it wasn’t funny but the country had lots of money than Bush gets in power and all starts to go to hell.Barrack is doing what he can and it does not matter who won the election your country would be no better off. Maybe the US should stop the warmongering and worry about their own problems. To me change would be finding a way away from money and start working together as one. Those who work hard would be rewarde with exploration and all will have the same thing,let’s remove the elites. Peace people

    • JC

      Jarrod Martens says:
      October 30, 2010 at 4:22 pm

      Maybe the US should stop the warmongering and worry about their own problems. To me change would be finding a way away from money and start working together as one.

      Careful … the way you’ve written that one would think that all 305 million Americans are blood thirsty animals pillaging the planet.
      When in fact it’s just a small cabal of controlling interests who have been busy lying to us that everythibg is fine. America is waking up to that now. So yes we’re starting to see that we can not carry the weight of the world nor should we. We’re starting to put the system under a microscope.

      Just wanted to clarify.

    • Anthony

      actually, JC … Jarrod’s point is well taken.

      FACT: Since the creation of the Federal Reserve, the U.S. has been tricked into climbing into one Conflict or War, after another for these last 100 years.

      During the 1800′s – thanks to the Bank of England coup by the Rothschilds in 1815 (Waterloo) – that Country was either at War, or preparing FOR war. This is easily verified.

      Then, came the 3-vote creation of The Federal Reserve Bill … and the outsourcing of control of OUR currency by a very private not-tax-paying Corporation …. THE FED. We, the People, do not have any rights to buy into the Stock of that Corporation, either. Only Family Members are allowed.

      That was 1913 – when we saw the creation of THE FED.

      For the last 100 years (1900′s), it has been America, that has been either AT WAR, or PREPARING FOR WAR …. to date, since the enception of THE FED, the U.S. has been involved in approx. 257 different instances of War, or Conflict, around the Planet. You heard me…..

      Much of this has been withheld by the CFR controlled MEDIA.
      In the 1750′s, the Rothschilds bought up Reuters….. so, you know what’s next.

      In the 1950′s, while Eisenhower was busy creating the Interstate Highway System, the CFR was busy buying up all of the Media in this Country … and this was at the same time as the Joe McCarthy hearings. Ol’ Joe never had a chance and also never knew just how correct he really was.

      Go to WHOOWNSTHENEWS-com

      BOTTOM LINE ? … We will never stop this warmongering until we DEFUND THE FED into oblivian. If the Brits, who constantly act like they’re instantly superior, had any real stones, they’d do exactly the same with the Bank of England. As would the Rothschilds’ controlled French Bank, as well.

      This gang of Banksters has been at this for over 200 years, folks.
      They are well entrenched. But, they are NOT stronger than the Humanity that surrounds them… IF, we get each other to wake up and unite against this nonsense.

      I know many people who are getting more & more OFF THE GRID.
      With HR4646, you will find your bank accounts shrinking even further.

      Do any of you ever talk to your neighbors & friends about all this?

      Try going to YouTube and watching Videos with ALAN WATT – then see how you feel.

      • JC

        Hey Anthony,
        I agree with his overall point and yours for that matter.
        History does bear it out. In fact, you would probably very much enjoy a book called “A Century of War” by John V. Denson. It begins with the civil war and carries up to Viet Nam. It details things you would never have considered that show what the motivation was behind conflicts in that 100 year span.

        I just wanted to put it out there though, that main stream Americans aren’t all that interested in raping the planet or false flag wars.
        That’s an elitist thing and it’s about profits and control.

        All of the western nations are in the same boat on that one.

    • http://gunner689 gunner689

      Jarrod: the places you describe do exist; North Korea, Cuba, Red China, Venensula, Bolivia, take your pick.

  • http://none Jim

    Anthony, right on the center of the target again. Regarding HR4646, I feel this to be as sweeping and as devastating as the Stamp Act in revolutionary times. It also put a tax on transactons, all paper transactions, affecting legal and commercial buisness. The Stamp Act didn’t work-out very well for parliment or king as it raised the ire of colonial attorneys, and a revolution was borne.] The HR4646 version will, of course, be an electronic debit, hardly noticeable at only 1%, right? This is just another example of the Congress passing self-serving and empowering legislation at the expense of the people. Check this out.

  • http://none Jim

    Anthony OOPS, I guess links don’t get posted. For follow-up on HR4646 google Standard-Examiner and goto the website.

  • http://aol Jim

    The most frightening thing I see in the Obamas’ kingdom are the Czars. These people were simply placed in a position of unlimited power within their domain and impowered to write regulations to supposedly regulate that entity. These “regulations” have the force of law. These regulations heave never never seen the floor of either hous of Congress. They have become law of the land with a wave of the hand. The question is who’s hand.

  • Claire

    My daughter works for Caterpillar in Decatur, IL, and she said they are going to have a plant in Indiana which will create 600+ jobs. Good news. At least they aren’t going overseas.

  • chuck b

    claire

    wasn’t this the same plant that barry held one of his campaign rallies
    when he was running for president, he and the plants gen mgr, said they were going to hire hundreds of people and we should vote for barry. sounds like political hype just before election time.

    • Claire

      chuck b –No, I don’t think so. Obama held his rally at the Peoria plant. And if my memory serves me correctly, there was some friction between Obama and Caterpillar at the time. I remember hearing about it. I’ll ask my husband about it tomorrow. He is asleep and he is not feeling good tonight. I don’t want to wake him up.

  • chuck b

    claire

    i’m rather dubious and pessimistic about companies hiring that large number of people. there’s nothing in construction that i can see that would warrant catepillar in expanding any new plant operation. i hope that i am wrong, there are lots of people that need those jobs. it’s bedtime for me too. so good night.

    • Claire

      chuck b — I forgot to mention–my daughter said Caterpillar got an Army contract for some kind of machinery. I keep hoping and praying concerning the job situation.

      • Claire

        chuck b– I asked my husband about Obama and Caterpillar. He said there was some sort of “rift” at the time. Apparently someone in Caterpillar did not want to endorse Obama. This is what my husband said.

  • GreenClover

    Good Lord!! Pundits say that “ONLY” 90% of congress will be re-elected on Tuesday instead of the usual 98%. So, is there really change coming?

    Watching France/England civil unrest last week, I fear that America will divide in small groups & possibly have civil unrest here as TIME reported last week.

    Need to read a book out that’s magnificent cause it’s about history possibly calling on us to fulfill our true destiny in life. Americans who do Finally take a stand against tyranny. I recommend it.

    http://www.booksbyoliver.com

    Yesterday’s DC rally & Becks August rally is sharping us into groups of dissent. The book is that good cause it’s about us.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    And hopefully we will get rid of this leftwing regime. I only wish I could be more optimistic like some people I’ve read. I.e., I’ve even read that Barney (Elmer Fudd voice) Frank is facing a tight battle for re-election. It would be nice to Elmer Fudd Frank dispatched to retirement. Let him go out and hunt wabbits instead!! Even after Tuesday, we’ll still have along way to go.

    Only 2 days until the first of the 3 most important elections of my lifetime. Let’s hope Americans have wised up after making foolish errors in the 2006, and worse in the 2008, elections. I can appreciate people’s frustrations with RINOs and GOP wimps for siding with liberal democraps. But with a few exceptions (i.e., NYC Mayor Mike Bloomjerk or Colon Powell type RINOs), no Republicans are as detrimental to America and its economy as today’s leftwing socialist Democrap Party. And REMEMBER – drones, moochers and diehard liberal morons will still vote for democraps. They won’t vote GOP/conservative merely because they don’t think even BHO or Pelosi are liberal enough!! So why should the majority of us (conservative to moderate) vote for democraps or refuse to cast a vote against democraps just because some republicans are not as conservative as we’d like?? The GOP made some errors. But to err is human. To really destroy America, that means to elect today’s communist democrap party!!

  • chuck b

    earl,queens

    i don’t see much improvement after this election. the republicans will not control the senate and won’t have as large a majority in the house as expected. until we rid the republican party of the karl rove’s and the rino’s, nothing is going to change. we need another party and let the repub party pass into oblivion. we need people that have principal and will do what they say.
    our country is at the tipping point, i was hoping this election would bring a change in congress and the senate, the democrats are going to keep control of the senate and the republicans with a small majority in congress will bow and compromise to the inman in the white house.
    the democrats are desperate in this election, if the republicans had taken the senate and congress both, barry would no doubt be in trouble, whether he is a natural born citizen or not would no doubt be under investigation along with other things and barry would be compromised, his agenda would be out the window, but it looks like the demos win again.

  • Claire

    I want to share an email that I received today. It was from a friend of mine in Washington state.

    To all of you Tea Partiers–

    You didn’t get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and appointed a President.
    You didn’t get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate Energy policy and push us to invade Iraq.
    You didn’t get mad when a covert CIA operative got outed.
    You didn’t get mad when the Patriot Act was passed.
    You didn’t get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.
    You didn’t get mad when we spent over 800 billion (and counting) dollars on said illegal war.
    You didn’t get mad when Bush borrowed more money from foreign sources that the previous 42 Presidents combined.
    You didn’t get mad when over 10 billion dollars in cash disappeared in Iraq.
    You didn’t get mad when you found out we were torturing people.
    You didn’t get mad when Bush embraced trade and outsourcing policies that shipped 6 millions American jobs out of the country.
    You didn’t get mad when we did not catch Bin Laden.
    You didn’t get mad when Bush rang up 10 trillion dollars in combined budget and current account deficits.
    You didn’t get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.
    You didn’t get mad when we let a major U.S. city, New Orleans, drown.
    You didn’t get mad when over 200,000 U.S. citizens lost their lives because they had no health insurance.
    You didn’t get mad when the lack of oversight and regulations from the Bush Administration caused U.S. citizens to lose 12 trillion dollars in investments, retirement, and home values.

    No….you finally got mad when a black man was elected President and decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick.

    Yes, illegal wars, lies, corruption, torture, job losses by the millions, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, and the worst economic disaster since 1929 are all okay with you, but helping fellow Americans who are sick..Oh, Hell No!!

    • Claire

      I assume some of you will read this post–this guy and his wife purchased a dog from me back in 1995. They are wonderful people. We never discussed politics nor religion during any of our conversations. In fact, we always talked about dogs. We kept in touch, not often, but several times a year. I was truly surprised to receive this email. Apparently they think I go to tea parties. And apparently they are Democrats. I never knew.

      • http://none Jim

        Claire, it seems that this litany of complaints is replete with an underlying current of emotional overloading from start to finish, which is a cornerstone of liberal orientation and outlook. Mad! Mad! Mad! Mad! Do we have to be Mad?

    • http://gunner689 gunner689

      How the hell do you know we didn’t get mad at most of those issues. We just weren’t organized then as we are now. Were you mad when Clinton sold 50 yrs. of military technology to the Red Chinese? Were you mad when Janet Reno burned down Waco and murdered innocent women and children or when she had that Cuban boy taken from his family at gun point? Were you mad when Carter gave away the Panama Canal or stood around for a year and a half with his thumb up his ass when the Iranians held American hostages?

      • http://none Jim

        gunner689, you answered with some big-gun isues. Good job!
        For me, there was no anger, or madness. I felt more
        betrayed, and that we were let down- big time. Why
        someone’s head didn’t roll after the ballistic missle
        technology give away to China is still an unsolved
        mystery for me today.

        Reno’s mindless intrvention in the Waco incident and
        her approved forceful entry into a home to kidnapp a
        child sent shivers down my spine. People like her in
        office have no regard for the Constitution, or for the
        Liberties that it safeguards.

        • http://gunner689 gunner689

          I think heads did roll; Ron Brown and his peculiar little air crash and the unusual .45 cal. hole in his head. Lesson: you never threaten to tell on the boss.

  • chuck b

    claire

    i too have a friend in washington state and from the sounds of your email they may be related. these people up there are a lot like san francisco, ultra ultra liberal and there is no changing their mind. it must be the rainy weather.

    barry has borrowed more money from overseas in one year than bush did in both terms.

    almost all the liberals voted for the iraq war.
    torturing people? maybe they should reflect on that one and consider what torture is and compare it with the torture our troops are and were faced with, that was real torture not manufactured torture by a liberal media.

    lack of over sight by the bush admin?? who had the chair in the oversight committee (barney frank and chris dodd both democrats and what did they report??? everything was fine and hunky dory!

    bush let a major city drown (katrina) the state governor kathleen blanco and city mayor ray nagin new orleans were responsible for the failure of the u.s. gov. to act. the people themselves sat idly by waiting for help and refused to help themselves for the most part.

    200,000 people lost their lives because they had no health insurance??
    not true at all, this country does not refuse any citizen medical care.
    bill clinton refused the capture of osama bin laden, remember!!

    americans got mad when obama was elected?? that’s a joke, he got a majority vote and mostly because he is black. his healthcare bill is the worse piece of legislation the house ever past and had no affect whether anyone sees a doctor or not.

    the rest is obviously not worth replying to

    claire,who ever wrote that email certainly had to be a liberal and knew nothing of what they wrote. (that’s normal for most liberals)

    • Claire

      chuck b –Yes, they no doubt are Liberals. But it still really surprised me. They are calm and easygoing people. Sometimes I think we never really “know” people. One thing I do have to mention. Walter Reed. Now that was disappointing and I was really aggravated about that issue.

      • Claire

        Sorry, I left out another issue that honked me off. Torture. I care more about our own troops and the thought/possibility of them being tortured if captured. Now that really ticks me off. I also have to admit that I never liked Cheney.

  • chuck b

    claire

    the abu ghraib scandal really ticked me off. when the enemy is cutting off the heads of their prisoners and using real torture, everything you could imagine and these liberals raise hell with our military and imprison them for insulting iraqi prisoners’s, was more than i could handle. that was one of the things that irritated me about bush, he let the democrats walk all over him and always reluctant to fight back.
    karl rove is the one i have learned to dislike. after what he said about christine o’donnell did it for me,

    • Claire

      Karl Rove is a shyster, a crook. I don’t like him, I never have. I stand by our soldiers, to heck with the enemy. In war, our soldiers must come first and foremost, along with their families and all veterans. We must take care of them. They have given so much more.

  • jopa

    Clire;Chuckb is not relly telling the whole story or being truthful.Bush was still in office when Wall street was bailed out andthe collapse happened on GWBs watch.Also the money in Obamas numbers are the figures for Bush putting the wars on a credit card and not disclosing them at the time.The 200,000 number for people dying without health insurance may be low and most of that comes from the fact that people without insurance do not seek medical help until it’s too late.Now the republicans want to destroy HCB, medicare, social security and veterans benefits just to make the filthy rich happy.

  • chuck b

    jopa

    there’s no use in talking to a wall, you apparently read union papers or maybe you don’t read. gwb was dealing with a democrat congress and senate, agreed he gave in to them. barry soetoro was part of that senate that voted for all that stuff you blame bush for, and you are full of it about more than two hundred thousand people who die from lack of health insurance, that again is democratic propaganda and absolutely not true.you want the government to hold your hand, people have to be responsible for themselves.
    you better read up on who controls what in the government and who coted for all these bad bills you blame bush for.

  • http://YAHOO.COM Sue C

    Hi Chip! I saw your youthful, and very handsome picture of when you were a lady-killer, but you have come a far way since then, and apparently, you have other interests now, but you are forgetting one thing.

    “THE RACE IS NOT TO THE SWIFT (NOR THE RICH), NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, BUT TO HIM THAT ENDURETH UNTO THE END.” PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS NO BACKING, REALLY, FROM BIGOTED, AND RICH WHITE AMERICANS, BUT ONE THING I KNOW IS, “IF GOD BE FOR HIM, WHO CAN BE AGAINST HIM?” I DON’T BELIEVE YOU HATE PRESIDENT OBAMA, BUT I DO BELIEVE HIS RACE MAKES A GREAT DIFFERENCE! IT REMINDS YOU OF THE TIME WHEN WHITE AMERICANS USED BLACK AMERICANS AS SLAVES, AND YOU CANNOT BEAR TO SEE A SON OF (WHAT YOU STILL PERCEIVE) A SLAVE, BEING THE PRESIDENT OF THE USA!

    IT IS AMAZING HOW YOU ALL JUSTIFY LIES, WHENEVER YOU WANT TO, AND ACT AS IF THERE IS NO ****JUDGE**** OF YOUR WORKS. GOD SEES WHAT ALL OF YOU DID TO HIM, AND GOD WILL HELP MR. OBAMA, BY WEIGHING ALL THE EVIL THINGS THAT MANY AMERICANS HAVE SAID ABOUT HIM, AND HE (GOD) WILL HELP HIM, TO STAND, AS IT IS WRITTEN IN EPHES. 6:10-20, AND ALL OF YOU WHO BELITTLED HIM, AND ACCUSED HIM OF EVERY CONCEIVABLE LIE, TO JUSTIFY YOUR BIGOTRY/REDNECK “STUFF” MAY NOT EVEN BE AROUND TO BURN OVER HIS WIN/GLOAT OVER HIS LOSS!

    When was the last time you read Deuteronomy 28: 1-68, and weighed yourself in the balance with verses 1-14/15-68? What about Psalms 94:1-23, 109:1-20, 35:1-28; Jeremiah 15:1-9; Isaiah 5:1-27, etc!etc! I suggest you read those chapters, and don’t forget to do the “T” chart, in the Book of Proverbs. When you are done, DO A PERSONAL CHECK, AND BALANCE of YOUR WORKS, and see what category you fall into, and don’t forget to be painfully honest.

    Everyone whines, and complains about how much money President Obama is spending, and how he is sending the deficit up the wall! However, the difference between the Democrats & the Republicans is, President Obama is spending our taxpayers’ monies, on the USA, and on the benefits of the US Citizens, who worked for it, and the Republicans are wailing about it, because when they were in office, they spent the money on their own agendas, AND personal orchards, vineyards, various types of farms, and other self interests, and they probably ran out of our tax-payers’ money, so they want to get back, into power, TO GET THEIR HANDS ON SOME MORE OF OUR TAXES, which is the main reason why they are wailing/whining about President Obama’s spending. They are afraid, when they get back into power, there will not be enough money available for them to steal, and misuse, without anyone questioning their evil works, because everyone was getting a cut from the stolen $$$$$! REALITY IS, UNEMPLOYMENT IS RAMPANT, TAX $$$ ARE NOT COMING IN, AND O BOY! THEY ARE SO VERY AFRAID THAT THE COFFERS WOULD BE EMPTY!

    While you rich guys, are “WHINING/COMPLAINING, because you want us, the underdogs, to pay the taxes, but you want your monies, and that which you acquired, as “REVENUE WITHOUT RIGHTS” to be TAX-FREE! I AM SO HAPPY THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY TAXES!!! We are tired of minding, AND pampering the rich!!!!! Stop whining, and make your tax payments, as a TRUE PATRIOT!!!!! OK? THANKS.

    PS: YOU ARE STILL HANDSOME, SO USE THAT BRAIN OF YOURS TO DO WHAT IS JUST, AND RIGHT, IN THE SIGHT OF GOD, KNOWING HE JUDGES US, ACCORDING TO OUR WORKS. BYE! BYE!

  • Barney Murrell

    I wonder how many people really understand how the Reagan and Bush tax cuts have affected the bottom 80 percent of taxpayers.

    Between 1979 and 2007 (Reagan and GW Bush) taxpayer income changed per Congressional Budget Office Data as follows:

    * Income of the wealthiest top 1 percent increased from 9.3 to 19.4 percent of all income
    * Income of the top 20 percent increased from 45.5 to 55.9 percent
    * The bottom 80 percent’s share of all U.S. income went down
    *And the national debt increased to $10+ trillion.
    (http://www.cbo.gov/publications/collections/tax/2010/pre-tax_income_shares.pdf)

    Also, for another example, see “Wealth Disparities in U.S. Approaching 1920s Levels,” http://seekingalpha.com/article/189649-wealth-disparities-in-u-s-approaching-1920s-levels?source=article_sb_popular.

    And IRS data, “The 400 Individual Income Tax Returns Reporting Highest AGI… 1992-2007,” http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/07intop400.pdf.

  • jopa

    chuck b; Well after several more days of research, running the facts and figures I came up with the same conclusion. Yup I was right again. Barney M: I believe only the top one per cent understand the above numbers you put forth.Why would anyone think trickle down economics would work when it is what we are living today.Where is the common sense?

  • http://mavspirit@optonline.net Maria

    Doesn’t matter to me what party wins but what the winning individual represents. American people do not like being DICTATED TO, by parties who assume they know what’s best FOR THE PEOPLE, without ASKING US TO VOTE ON EACH ISSUE passed in Congress. Lest we forget, what our Founding Fathers proclaimed in the U.S. Constitution….any politician who fights to restore it, as it was intended, FOR THE PEOPLE, not for the elites in Government only. Federal Income tax was never ratified & illegal. Nevertheless, the Americans are taxed up the GAZOO. Car tax, gasoline Tax, Death Tax (an insult above all), inheritan tax…who made Government “GOD?” IRS tax penalities, Exise tax, Federal Income Tax, State Tax, School tax, Property tax, Medicare & Social Security Taxes, Real Estate tax, liquor tax, luxury tax, Utility tax, Vehicle License Registration tax, Surcharge tax….Thanks to Government’s enforcement of these taxes on the American People….if you don’t pay, all you worked for is lost. They can take anything you own or jail you if necessary. WHO GAVE THE GOVERNMENT THAT MUCH POWER? The People need to rethink, just how much they have taken from us & how much more they will intend to do within the near future. Is this POWER OF THE PEOPLE OR…..a dictatorship of the worst kind????

  • http://mavspirit@optonline.net Maria

    Doesn’t matter what party wins but precisely what that winning candidate represents. American people do not like being DICTATED TO, by parties who assume they know what’s best FOR THE PEOPLE, without ASKING US TO VOTE ON EACH ISSUE passed in Congress. Lest we forget, what our Founding Fathers proclaimed in the U.S. Constitution….any politician who fights to restore it, as it was ORIGINALLY intended, FOR THE PEOPLE/not simply for the elites in Government, that party gets my vote (someone like Ron Paul). Federal Income tax was never ratified. Nevertheless, the Americans are taxed up the GAZOO, such as, Car tax, gasoline Tax, Death Tax (an insult TO ALL), inheritance tax…who made Government “GOD?” IRS tax penalities, Excise tax, Federal Income Tax, State Tax, School tax, Property tax, Medicare & Social Security Taxes, Real Estate tax, liquor tax, luxury tax, Utility tax, Vehicle License Registration tax, Surcharge tax. Need I go on? Thanks to Government’s tax enforcement laws, the American People are subjected to, if you don’t or unable pay, take all you own or jail you? HELLO! WHO GAVE THE GOVERNMENT THAT MUCH POWER? The People need to standup because they will continue to take much more within the near future. My sentiment is, if Government got us into this deficit mess, LET THEM PAY FOR IT. Government doesn’t consult the people to vote on issues but do as they feel. Is this POWER OF THE PEOPLE OR…..a dictatorship of the worst kind????

  • becky

    All I’m reading is talk…wheres the action….the 200 year revolution to throw out the old money hungry crows?
    Isn’t it time?

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