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Tyranny: It’s Here

December 28, 2011 by  

The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) is the new vehicle to ensure our oppression by a tyrannical government. Representative Buck McKeon (R-Calif.), chairman of the House Committee on Armed Services, wrote a defensive piece on RedState titled “Myths on the New Detainee Policy.” He had intended to allay our fears about the hidden trap in this unConstitutional piece of legislation. He is quite mistaken, as are Georgia’s two Senators who voted for it. The threat in this bill to the 6th Amendment and, thus, American citizens is real.

McKeon claims the act does not address or extend any new authority to detain U.S. Citizens; but, in fact, it does. The NDAA actually grants — indeed, mandates — immense unConstitutional power to the White House. The President is to be afforded absolute power to use the Army to arrest and detain U.S. citizens without due process, i.e., a warrant issued by a judge or a preliminary hearing to be advised of charges — let alone a trial (Section 1031).

The act affirms that arrest and detention by the Army of “covered persons” within the United States is legal. Section 1031 reveals all: “a covered person” is one who engages in terrorist acts, or anyone associated with an organization guilty of belligerent acts.

So, regardless of the protections afforded by the 6th Amendment, the Senate’s bill will actually allow the government to lock up any citizen it wants if someone swears he or she is a terrorist. How hard is that?

Now is a good time to review an earlier unfortunate and unchallenged change to our thought processes. A few years ago, liberals wanted to make certain crimes more horrible than regular old crimes so they added “hate crime” to our vernacular. Why? Some liberal said so, and we bought into it. Now we have a Marxist President who, through his toadies like Eric Holder and Janet Napolitano, has already identified Tea Party members, returning veterans and retired cops as potential terrorists to be detained until the end of the war. It’s not legal simply because some stupid politicians say it is. And, as for stupid politicians, we can thank Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) for being the architects of this unConstitutional monstrosity.

Proponents refer to other sections of the bill to deny that arrests and detention of U.S. citizens are authorized. It applies, it is said, only to al-Qaida and associates. However, two sections of the act contradict each other. The Chief of Staff of Senator Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.) said the bill does not authorize such draconian action. And  Representative Lynn A. Westmorland (R-Ga.) produced this denial:

I understand the concerns and that is why there were numerous questions asked about this, so I want to reassure that you will be protected. The U.S. Constitution guarantees U.S. citizens on U.S. soil will have due process and nothing within this legislation will take away that right. These people claiming your constitutional rights are violated by this legislation are using fear tactics to drum up support against legislation that is needed to make sure our men and women in uniform get paid for their service to our country.

I have not yet lost the faculty to read and reason and I am not sanguine in those assurances from the “elite political class,” especially since they come from politicians who have lost our confidence and have lost their way. Let’s be honest, the wording that would allow the arrest and detention of American citizens is still there, like a land mine waiting to explode in our faces. Really, do we still want to put our trust and belief in somebody who says: “Trust me, I’m from the government and I just want to help you?” Remember, Freedom is the goal; The Constitution is the way. Go get ’em!

–George McClellan

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  • s c

    One step closer to an American utopia. This article needs to be aimed at every utopian who thinks their drug-infused philosophy will give America a perfect combination of a worker’s paradise and a utopia on earth.
    Keep pushing that envelope, utopians. When the envelope gets torn, you will not like what’s inside that envelope.

  • Dan S.

    I have read the bill. I agree as to the wording is confusing for some, but it does say “The act affirms that arrest and detention by the Army of “covered persons” within the United States is legal. Section 1031 reveals all: “a covered person” is one who engages in terrorist acts, or anyone associated with an organization guilty of belligerent acts.” Remember when T-party members were called enemy of the state for their right leanning views, or christians condemed for their beliefs in “GOD”. If anyone should be arrested it should be marxist, socialist, communist idealist. The very existance of either would be a total conflict of our rights and freedoms under the constitution. I guess we did not learn our lesson well from the late 1800′s thru the early 1900′s when our country was compromised by fasist. It wasnt only the progressive movement, but underlying factors from the bank reserves and the incorporation of D.C. That is why today we treat the US like a corporation and not a country of the free with a constitution for guidance. Instead of contributing to the opperation of our country, we are taxed for profit from a corporation, which employs officials who extort, and embezzle monies. People must realize that our country has been taken over by organized crime, and our social mannerism is the blanket to cover all.

  • beentheredoneit

    NDAA is a potentially dangerous threat to our liberty. In 1917 the Soviets established the CHEKA their secret police that had changed its name and been reorganized to become KGB after Stalin’s death in 1953. The CHEKA…KGB was a military state security organization, it detained millions of people at home and abroad without due process and left 25-30 million corpses in its wake.
    The SS started as a small organization of six people to guard the safety of Hitler and grew to more than 200 000 by 1933! The SS was a significant part of the army, it included the GESTAPO and set up and maintained the death camps. 6 million Jews and untold millions of Poles, Russians, French etc. peoples perished “thanks to the SS”.
    Do we REALLY want any part of the US Armed Forces to be degraded to the level of KGB or SS?

    • wandamurline

      You are absolutely right…take Austria … a country deep in recession…they saw the Germans and how well their country was doing, so they “VOTED” for Germany to take them over. Within two years, they had been robbed of much of their wealth, they had their free speech cut off, they dared not complain, and they began to be rounded up and taken to concentration camps. Does this sound familiar to any of you? November 2012, will be the last chance that we have to stop this from happening, so your vote is very, very important…there are 23 Demorat seats that we need to fill with constitutional representation. If we lose in 2012, then we will be on the same path that Austria took. Vote like your very life depends on it, because it literally does.

      • Martha

        Obama pushed for this to be put in place so we would not have an election in 2012. I have very bad feelings that we are going to see this come to pass come around July, August next year. Those that oppose him are going to be rounded up and sent to the FEMA camps that he is now stocking and staffing. This is why they want control of the net too. Google is on Obama’s payroll and has been for years. I would not be surprised if the youngsters that started FB are also. After all, it’s the young of our country that Obama goes after because he knows they do not have any common sense. But then, neither does our Congress or Senate. All of these people have betrayed us. Their salaries have more than doubled while the Americans salaries have steadily decreased. I hope and pray I’m wrong, but I see another American Revolution on the horizon.

    • John

      I just can’t let this stand without comment. No one knows exactly how many people the National Socialists in Germany killed before and during World War Two. A fact you may not be aware of, two out of three were christians. Using your number of six million means two million jews were killed and four million christians were killed. Why does their religion matter to you in regard to the jewish portion who were killed yet the christians matter not?

      • Poppaman

        @John – The “Final Solution” WAS specifically targeted towards Jews, so the fact that six million Jews were killed is indeed significant. No less significant is the fact that many other religious and ethnic groups were also targeted (Catholics and Romany (Gypsy) for example), comprising an additional thirteen million DOCUMENTED deaths at the hands of the National Socialist (NAZI) party, for a total of just under twenty million deaths in the concentration camps.

        Jews were specifically singled out for “special” attention…

        Back to the NDAA – the wording of the bill as it curerntly stands is vague enough for a president (Democrat, Republican or “other”) to designate any given group of people who are accuesed of “engaging in terrorist acts” OR THOSE WHO ASSOCIATE WITH SUCH A GROUP. Imagine this scenario: your son or daughter is a member of the Boy or Girl Scouts and you attend the occasional meeting to assist, or are part of an outing as a chaperone. The scouting group, being instructed in survival on a very elementary scale (how to build a fire; how to set up a brush shelter) are deemed “terrorists”. Guess what: you and your family, BY ASSOCIATION WITH THE GROUP are subject to arrest.

        That scenrio is not “out there” and has nothing to do with race, religion or gender…. Scary stuff indeed…

        Oh, and by the way, I’m a registered Democrat… This stuff is real, and (part of) what the college students in the 60′s were protesting against…

        • Dawn

          If you are a registered Democrat, why do you remain so? At least withdraw support to them, I am (was) registered Republican and now do not support them at all.

      • Dawn

        Hitler was part Jew, claimed Christianity, the German Churches (Lutherans and Catholics) except for Bonhoffer and a few others fell in line, people who were Jews were the special target, Martin Luther in his waning years turned anti-semetic was an excuse to target Jews. Everyone who was enemy of the State was a target. Christians are not counted because of their silent complicity.

    • Bob Marshall

      Today, under Homeland security there are 240,000 employees.We live in a nation where when you include town, city, state and federal government employees that is over fifty percent of the employed today.Everything our founders warned us about has come to past.

    • Bob M

      CHEKA, KGB, SS, TSA what’s in a name/acronym

  • former walmart person

    The law doesn’t matter to the elites. If you are a big enough “threat” to our government, you are a goner regardless of whats written on paper. Even if it did say “American citizens are completely exempt from this bill”, that means nothing as Barrack Obama has already well established that he completely ignores the letter of the law when it suits him and his administration. That was proven with the execution of An War Al la laki (sorry wont bother to spell). I have to believe its not written down on paper that the government can kill you without trial.

  • lostinparadise

    If we do not fight the supreme fight, We are doomed. This is where all the whiners, and complainers Woosie out. Bunch of good for nothing bear bate. All talk and no go!

    • http://www.jondolar.net Jondolar

      Christians are compliant because over the past several decades our interpretation of the scriptures by ministers has been slowly “redefined” from its original meaning or intent in most instances. Plus, our mass media marketing – coupled with affluence and technology development – have softened the populace in general to break the first commandment; no other gods before Him. Thus, we find ourselves dependent, if not feeling entitled to things that are not granted by our creator, and we find ourselves spineless and without the necessary courage to stand up to these power hungry monsters. It comes down to the bottom line of our country’s belief that our acceptionalism – we have a better idea focused on individual freedom – has been mostly lost in the process.

  • stopobamasjihad

    Our government no longer represents us and has become everything the constitution protected us from. November 2012 is not only about getting obama-the-lying-ahole out of office but also removing all the good-ole-boy politicians that no longer represent we the people. Stop obama’s jihad on America. No more democrats. No more 2 term incumbents. Get invlolved with your local polling centers to assure the election results are not fixed or alltered. This has to happen now.

    • extreme

      And vote for who , they’re all the same .

      • Patriot66

        Vote for Ron Paul. He’s our only hope for any sense of sanity.

        • Laura Lokken

          Ron Paul is just as, or more, dangerous than Obama or any of the republicans who are running for president. http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-12-20/politics/30537102_1_newsletters-paul-campaign-conspiracy-theories

          We need someone who speaks for the progressive majority! Jill Stein (the Green Party presidential candidate who addresses the White House’s recent agreements to violate the 6th, 7th, and 8th Amendments to the Constitution, to speed up the timetable on the Keystone Pipeline, and to eliminate the national health care standard)should be our next president! http://www.jillstein.org/message_of_change

          • vicki

            Please do go green. One less vote for Obama. Of course for best effect you should vote for someone who has an established record of defending the Constitution (Presumes you want to of course.)

            To find out more about Ron Paul just go to HIS website. Then independently check his voting record.

  • Ray Dilg

    We the people still have the power, however we don’t use it. We have allowed politicians to rise above the law, and stay there! The answer is to vote them out every chance we get so they can come back out and live under the laws they have made. That will keep them accountable!

    • Dawn

      Can’t vote them out any more, too many brains are washed completely. Percentages are well above the turning point. Next option (see OWS) will not be peaceful voting.

  • Just Nasty & Mean

    George McClellan “nails it”. Tyranny is here, in our homeland, perpetrated by our elected officials. Our representatives and Senators have sold American values and freedoms and rights of habeas corpus down the drain and covered it over with doubletalk, slick-worded, vague legislation. It is now up to the Executive Branch—Obama, Holder, Napolitano and the army of Marxist/Socialists there to determine my 6th Amendment rights to Miranda,and fair trial by a jury of my peers.
    …and nary a peep from the talking heads or mainstream media. Do you think they have been told to “SHUT UP” about this travesty?
    If the common man doesn’t express OUTRAGE at the loss of this element of our liberty–we are lost as a free nation.

    • vicki

      Just nasty writes:
      “Tyranny is here, in our homeland, perpetrated by our elected officials. ”

      Yep Republicrats or demopublicans. 2 peas. Same pod. With one most interesting exception. Ron Paul.

  • 4-just_us

    Our founders put in the Constitution some barriers to control the government from becoming totalitarian. Through the lust of power and greed, and the difficulty of individuals to fight them, it is becoming more totalitarian . Our Constitution is not ample firewall of protection ; we need more. The a.c.l.u. helps but we still need more. Somehow we have to get the American people in a more active roll in Government legislation,judicially and the highly controlled media. Until the people have had enough and rise up, this is it.

    • vicki

      The Constitution is just a piece of paper. If the people do not honor it then it has no power. As long as WE consent to our representatives ignoring the Constitution why should they bother. It is after all restrictions on them and what they can do to us.

      Vote them out or accept your fate.

  • Richard from Camano

    Sealed records are the owner’s method of taking the 5th amendment as to the contents of those records. Why do we allow this crap? Every one of the bastards that are involved in this “crap” should be taken out of office immediately and tried for crimes against the country.
    32018 is the number on the birth certificate assigned to one Barack H. Obama, II, dated 8/4/61. It has a foot print on it of the baby assigned to it. The foot print is the only identification on the human body that does NOT change with age (except for size). Let’s see the bottom of your right foot Mr. Obama, NOW! No registrar of records in Hawaii should be allowed to “seal” the records of births on or about 8/4/1961, but some morons have allowed it. Lies and crap ala Chicago!

  • Terry

    I certainly agree with the sentiment of Dan S that something is treated like a corporation. He says it is the nation but I am inclined to say it is the govt and it is the banking cartel/empire, fronted by the fed res, that owns and operates the govt. Actually I suppose they don’t own the govt, just have a controlling, but dynamic, interest in it. They also receive huge dividends of taxpayers money but these are called interest on the national debt. For some 130 years we had no national debt and no fed res. The ND needs to be liquidated, but over a very long period. Say 50 to 100 years with managed deflation, i.e. the reduction of the per capita amount of money in circulation. Our elected officials, all parties, float on a private pond. called inside the beltway. However it is a pond of money and we the voters need to drain their pond and bring them back to earth, to reality!

    The whole concept of soverign debt is wrong since it is unnecessary. Why? The govt is enabled by the Constitution to print money and put into circulation. All govts have this power, although in europe the banks are also involved in current problems so I suspect the idea of soverign debt is a leftover blight from the days when royalty was, well royalty? The bankers probably had great influence with kings/queens. Besides, where do bankers get the money to lend the govt trillions of dollars? All money comes fromm the same place, a printing press or a mint, it does not come from the economy since the economy only determines who has the money after it is put into circulation by the govt. All the fed res, created by legislation in 1913, does is have the key to the room where the money printer is locted.

    The owners of the fed res, while it is not a govt agency the Treasury is and should control the money presses, get billions of dollars worth of “dividends”. A part of this massive entitlement cash flow surely makes it’s way back to the two parties in DC and individual candidates to “help” fund campaigns for election/reelection. And the regulators, our elected officials, have been bamboozeled by the banking cartel since they use all their entitlement dividends to regulate who gets elected to be a regulator. The results of this situation is the voters are pretty much disenfranchized because we only get to vote on hired hacks that work hard to preserve the staus quo regarding the financial operation of the govt!

    Am I the only person that realizes this flaw in govt financing? I really doubt it and feel sure many in DC understand the root cause of our financial troubles but like their seat in congress more and keep the status quo and the nation enslaved! As a friend said. They love power instead of the power of love.

    • Isaac Davis

      From a speech in Congress in The Bankruptcy of The United States United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993 Vol. 33, page H-1303. Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

      “Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens or mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913) “Hypothecated” all property within the federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve – in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title. The U.S. citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a “beneficiary” of the trust via his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets and labor of their “subjects,” the 14th Amendment U.S. citizen, to the Federal Reserve System.

      In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend THE FEDERAL United States CORPORATION [emphasis added] all the credit “money substitute” it needed. Like any other debtor, the federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan. Since the federal United States didn’t have any assets, they assigned the private property of their “economic slaves”, the U.S. citizens as collateral against the unpayable federal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national parks forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit organizations, as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers.

      Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution, feudal roots whereby all land is held by a sovereign and the common people had no rights to hold allodial title to property. Once again, We the People are the tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the guise of the Federal Reserve Bank. We the people have exchanged one master for another. .”

      http://www.babelmagazine.com/issue66/uscorporation.html

  • Richard from Camano

    Oh, yea, the 32018 birth certificate is from the British Protectorate of Kenya in Mombasa at the Coast Province General Hospital dated 8/4/1961.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Wingman

    It’s time we all stand up against the government, and do whatever must be done to preserve the liberties and freedoms our forefathers fought to give us. The progressives have been working on taking over America for a very long time and now they’re very close to victory. Americans need to get over their toys, big homes, and other spoils and do what needs to be done or lose all of it. Take the power away from those that choose to abuse it rather than use it to make life better for all of us. Why do you think people from all over the world do what they have to, to get here? Are we just going to let it all go? And for what? To live in poverty, working to keep the elite in their spoils and luxury, under their marxist rule? How unappreciative can people be to let it happen? Make a stand before it’s too late!!! The government is Americas greatest crime family to date!!

  • Tom SC

    Endangered Spieces; Can you spell INCUMBANT ???? I hope thats spelled right but I’m sure you get the jist!!!

  • Rennie

    So exactly what part of our rights, previously guarranteed by the constitution, do we have left? And where did they get the power to alter or abridge the constitution without an ammendment or supreme court ruling? By assertion? “A despotic government knows no principle but will”? Do we challenge this like the “Sedition Act” of 1799, by protest and petition, or would said protestors just disappear? I have come to believe John McCain was the real “Manchurian Candidate” and this just cinchs it.

  • jackie yow

    Enough! Jefferson was right

    Enouh! Jeferson was right! Vote all them out.

  • http://msn Kerri

    One of the problems Americans have is they don’t know what to do or how to get started.(on changing the way things are) We need some guidence. Everyone is screaming for America to wake up. We are awake, but what do we do now? We can vote, but elections are rigged. We can blog but no one listens, we can protest but they don’t care.Unless you have a lot of money you can’t run for any office. The media rips you to peices and your family. So, What can we the people really do? Suggestions welcome

    • Walt

      I suppose the remaining solution is to look to the founding fathers and the methods they used to defeat the most powerful military force on the planet. Read the history….it worked for them. The Brits also called them “terrorists”!

    • http://ByGeorge By George

      Kerri,

      The “how” in your question is well put because you understand the helplessness most people feel when facing such monumental losses to Constitutional Freedom that America is soon to face. But, as all politics are local, so is all defense.

      First, it is absolutely essential, indeed required that your county sheriff understands his constitutional role as your Chief Law Enforcement officer. He cannot be ordered to do anything by any component of the Federal Government or even his own States Attorney General. He and he alone, can stop federal agents from enforcing unconstitutional laws against citizens in his county. If he throws in with federal power, who demands his cooperation because he’s been fooled by them, then indeed, you have no hope.

      Study the terrain of your city, town or county and determine the choke points and how to delay or stop convoys of outsiders from entering. Defense cannot be a solo job. Others must become involved but here we enter the dark realm of “Conspiracy”, that theory upon which the Government will base its warrants of arrest and detention. Enlist the aid of veterans if you must. The government will never look upon your right to self-defense as a lawful enterprise but rather classify it as a conspiracy to overthrow their unconstitutional government. Place no hope in the ACLU or any lawyer for that matter. Listening to lawyers is what brought us to this unhappy situation in our civil affairs.

      Get active in local politics. Attend their meetings. Allow no closed meetings. Ensure that your local elected officials, including the sheriff, know they are vulnerable to extreme internal and local pressure if they choose to side with the unconstitutional elites who want to imprison you. Remember, you are as capable of reading and interpreting the US Constitution, as any judge. Just wearing a black robe does not make them right. Always have a copy of the Constitution with you at all times.

      Avoid urban areas. The classless denizens who abide there, when the S*** hits the fan, will swarm out like cockroaches devouring all before them. Need I say, arm yourself and learn how to use your weapons. Instruct your family as well. Stay calm, collected and if other call you “paranoid,” remember that it’s okay to be paranoid, they are out to get you.

      I’ve got to go! There’s a knock at my door and men in black suits and dark glasses waiting outside.

      • vicki

        They won’t bother to knock anymore. Too civilized for them.

    • http://www.facebook.com/weitersjr.1 Preston Weiters Jr.

      3/22/12, Kerri, what we can do is educate ourselves & our children in American/World history. The average kid graduating from high school today can rarely backtrack 10 years ago. “It’s not relevant,” they’ll say. “The Louisiana Purchase will not help me get a job,” they’ll tell you. What they don’t understand is, although things seem hard today, life was often much harder 100 years ago. (John R., are you getting this)? :{>

  • steve

    When the majority have been so convinced that slavery is what they want, and is in their best interest, to the point that they are willing to fight to be slaves, it doesn’t really matter what was put on a piece of paper more then two hundred years ago…

  • Walt

    Yes, buying the loyalty of “slaves” through food stamps and welfare is a valid argument; however, I question that willingness when the gravy train arrives at the station and is found to be finally empty.

    Roman emperors also bought the “loyalty and approval” of the mob with bread and circuses, while their legions were kept busy conquering the world and mired in foreign “nation building”,therefore providing no threat to Rome. (Sound familiar?)

    History has proven time and time again that the loyalty of slaves is a fickle thing, and that such conditional dedication can be easily swept away by a few men of integrity and principle.

    And yes it does matter what was put on a piece of paper two hundred years ago. Those core principles do matter, and will serve as beacons to guide men of principle, who love freedom, back on the right path, much as they did two hundred years ago.

    Remain hopeful…don’t give up on this great experiment so easily, remember that you today are the reason for the efforts and existence of those that came before you.

    • vicki

      If you have a God, pray to him/her/it. Daily. If not then may ( ) have mercy upon your soul.

  • gary

    This is exactly why Oblamer wants to set up an internal army that is bigger than the Us army. Does it not bother anyone that Oblamer has set up his own site for reporting people that talk against him?
    I think most American citizens are afraid of speaking against this country regime for fear of retaliation.

    • Dawn

      That Army is the TSA. Now doing airport style searches on the open highways.

  • ROGER, Canadian Libertarian

    It is too late for Rational solutions as everything is controlled, banned or illegal.

    It is time for a REAL REVOLUTION but no-one will agree,have the courage or the FORESIGHT, so we will go down in a Gulag created by our own neglect.

    Only when we are in virtual concentration camps bounded by our political borders will the majority wake up and of course, the price to overthrow the tyranny at that time will be MUCH GREATER.

  • LarryH

    So now they say that ‘guilt by association’ is an acceptable excuse to arrest people. This is not the United States I grew up in. This is the U.S. that George Orwell tried to warn us about in ’1984′.

  • Moosedrool

    By Janet (little reno)Napolitano’s definition of terrorist, John McCain is one because he is a veteran. So he just sponsored a bill (unconstitutional one) that allows him to be locked up indefinitely and without recourse. I guess he misses his time at the Hanoi Hilton?
    God help us.

  • willy cooper

    Sure we can trust our goverment, just ask an indian…

  • Buck

    It took quite a few years to go from a constitutional republic to a socialist state but only three to go from a socialist state to a fascist state . Welcome to the new and improved Socialist States of America .

  • JJM

    “These people claiming your constitutional rights are violated by this legislation are using fear tactics to drum up support against legislation that is needed to make sure our men and women in uniform get paid for their service to our country.” Wait a minute – is he saying that the uniformed will be paid a bounty for each put away OR will they be funded by Confiscation of our property? And who are the Uniformed – the new SS??
    My Senator Hutchison responded to me with assurances that citizen’s rights were not at peril. If this becomes a proven lie, perhaps she will be in peril?

    • Dawn

      The well funded, civilian security force, just as powerful as the Army is the TSA, also funded by the Taxpayer.

      Just ask the TSA agent to not search you without asking for your permission. See what he/she says. They treat each airport as if it was a military base. Hell, military bases do not impose the kind of searches going on at the airports. This is conditioning of the civilian population to ensure they accept loss of freedom in the name of false security.

  • RightGunner

    Start at the top, what is the definition of a “Terrorist”. Remember the pitch, one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter, an idea often useful to both sides of the question? Well a Terrorist is apparently what the Commander In Chief says it is, that should be obvious from the wording? Ask Alice.

    Our enemy is the enemy of freedom which is at least as large a group in the U.S. as abroad. Now Congress has stopped using well defined and well crafted legislation and instead provides life and death power to the Commander in Chief over an easily corrupted definition of terror, ist or ism.

    The devil is in the detail, and those details will be left to the same kind of lawyers who have proven that justice is just a function of their acting ability and what they are able to get juries to say in the theater of trails.

  • vicki

    four boxes were given to us to protect freedom. You must now decide if the 3rd box is hopelessly compromised. Trial by Jury is kind of hard if no one knows you are in jail and with the NDAA it does not look like “covered persons” will even be allowed a phone call.

    A line has been drawn in the sands of spacetime. Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they have done.

  • stephen russell

    Told it estds FEMA Gualgs & guillotines.
    = to STOP bill, for Internet Control
    Just as bad
    See YouTube Videos about FEMA camps, guillotines, Police State America.
    OWS is training for Police state coming.

    • Ocean Diver

      The more I hear the less I believe there will be an election in November. Everything is now in place for martial law to be declared. Most of the troops are back in the USA, there are plenty of UN Troops here being trained, the detention centers are open and busy hiring guards and we know these are not for illegal aliens as this administration is not going to touch them, the new law is in place so that anyone can be seized and jailed without charges, trials, warrants, lawyers and we are without rights of anykind. It is all sitting there waiting for the right justification or excuse to be enacted and I think they are getting impatient to do it. All the Feds have to do is declare us as domestic terrorists although no evidence need be produced to back up this travesty. When the arrests start, any body who disagrees with the government is fair game, the end game in all this , of course is Emperor Obama ruling this segment of the new world order……agenda 21 in the flesh.

  • Liddie

    After reading the comments I wonder just how many of you have e-mailed, called or wrote your socalled representatives to voice your opinion re this legislation? Don’t just complain here, do it where it might to do some good. Tie up the DC switchboard and call them at their home office/s also.

    This is why I will not use a voting machine or a scanner to count my vote. I am asking for a write in ballot. If an eighth grade science class can find out how to rigg the voting machinery, the soft ware programmers can do it also and we will have one heck of a time proving the voting was compromised. Make your vote count and wake up to the fact that any vote for a third party is a vote for OBAMA! Staying home is not an option even if I don’t like the candidate. I may have to hold my nose to vote but I will do it.

  • Gringo Infidel

    Comrades! Do not fear government tyranny or abuse of powers – this is to protect us from ourselves.

    What a load of shi’ite this is! Those senile old kooks who put this together should be ashamed but are so out of touch that they cannot possibly know how this law undermines our liberties.

    they and this law must go.

  • s c

    People, Russian Spetznaz is currently involved in a “training” exercise in the Denver area. They have the White House’s “blessing.” Do you really need to look at a dictionary to know what treason is?

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