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“Rush” To Exit The United States?

March 18, 2010 by  

“Rush” To Exit The United States?

“I’ll just tell you this, if this [Obamacare] passes and it’s five years from now and all that stuff gets implemented, I am leaving the country. I’ll go to Costa Rica.” Rush Limbaugh

Dear supporters of Personal Liberty,

Rush is right. Our personal and financial freedoms are threatened now more than ever, and smart people are seriously looking for the best loopholes to escape ObamaNation, including the possibility of leaving the country.

Intrade, the political futures market, now shows that Obama’s Deathcare legislation, with all its huge tax increases and regulations, has a 59 percent chance of passing. That’s scary.

We now enter “Phase II” of the Obama regime, and it will be more dangerous than Phase I (the first year). Obama and his radical Democrats are becoming more radical in Phase II. We survived the first year of the Obama administration without much damage, but now the White House has decided to turn up the heat and go all out to push through Obamacare, his unpopular trillion dollar program of socialized medicine.

This radical measure, on top of sharply higher taxes, closing of legitimate deductions and loopholes, draconian regulations on Wall Street, consumer “protection,” increased union power and multiple attacks on business can spell only one thing: more deficits, slower growth and quagmire on Wall Street.

How to profit? Besides buying gold and silver, you might consider getting some of your money outside the country, or even considering leaving the country. Rush might be on to something.

One of our most popular sessions at FreedomFest last year was on the personal and financial benefits of leaving the country and living abroad. Led by such tax and estate planning experts as Vernon Jacobs and Marshall Langer, the room was packed with people who wanted to know more about the financial and personal benefits of moving abroad (without giving up your citizenship).

After all, more than 3 million Americans have already moved abroad and are saving millions in taxes, and enjoying personal liberty. They’ve moved to Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribean, Europe and Asia.

Langer, the world’s foremost tax attorney, asked the audience “How many of you want to know about moving to a low tax state such as Florida?” A few hands went up. Then he asked, “How many of you are interested in moving to a foreign tax haven?” Almost every hand went up!

Moving to a foreign tax haven doesn’t mean giving up your U.S. citizenship, although some have taken that drastic step. I personally lived in the Bahamas, a tax haven, for two years without giving up my citizenship and saved a ton of money in taxes. It was life in living color! (For those who want to read my story, Easy Living: My Two Years in the Bahamas, go to www.markskousen.com.)

Good news; we’re going to repeat those special sessions at this year’s FreedomFest. The session, “The Tax and Financial Advantages of Moving Abroad,” will be led by experts Vernon Jacobs, CPA, and Robert Bauman, president of the Sovereign Society (and former US congressman) and a contributor to Personal Liberty Digest.

By attending this year’s World Economic Summit at FreedomFest you can learn specific ways to protect your business and your investments from the unprecedented onslaught of our freedoms. More details can be found at www.freedomfest.com.

Speakers this year will include Steve Forbes (president and chief executive officer of Forbes, editor in chief of Forbes magazine and a former presidential candidate), John Mackey (CEO of Whole Foods Market) and Greg Mortenson (author of the famous book, Three Cups of Tea, and the most admired American in the Middle East).

An incredible number of top financial gurus will also be speaking at this year’s FreedomFest. Back by popular demand is Donald Smith, the New York money manager who has the best track record—an average annualized return of 12 percent a year since 1980—better even than Warren Buffett! His fund was up 65 percent last year.

He is so impressed with FreedomFest that he is bringing 20 of his friends/colleagues with him this year. Now that’s what I call catching the spirit of FreedomFest.

Yours for peace, prosperity, and liberty, AEIOU,

Mark Skousen

Mark Skousen

, Ph. D., is a professional economist, investment expert, university professor, and author of more than 25 books. He earned his Ph. D. in monetary economics at George Washington University in 1977. He currently holds the Benjamin Franklin Chair of Management at Grantham University. He has taught economics and finance at Columbia Business School, Columbia University, Barnard College, Mercy College and Rollins College. He also has been a consultant to IBM, Hutchinson Technology and other Fortune 500 companies. Since 1980, Skousen has been editor in chief of Forecasts & Strategies, a popular award-winning investment newsletter. He also is editor of three trading services, Skousen Hedge Fund Trader; Skousen High-Income Alert and Turnaround Trader. In 1995, he served as editor of the investment series, "Secrets of the Great Investors," with Louis Rukeyser as narrator. He is a former analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency, a columnist to Forbes magazine (1997-2001), and past president of the Foundation for Economic Education (FEE) in New York. He has written articles for The Wall Street Journal, Liberty, Reason, Human Events, the Daily Caller, Christian Science Monitor and The Journal of Economic Perspectives. He has appeared on ABC News, CNBC Power Lunch, CNN, Fox News and C-SPAN Book TV. In 2008-09, he was a regular contributor to Larry Kudlow & Co. on CNBC. His economic bestsellers include "Economics on Trial" (Irwin, 1991), "Puzzles and Paradoxes on Economics" (Edward Elgar, 1997), "The Making of Modern Economics" (M. E. Sharpe, 2001, 2009), "The Big Three in Economics" (M. E. Sharpe, 2007), "EconoPower" (Wiley, 2008) and "Economic Logic" (2000, 2010). In 2009, "The Making of Modern Economics" won the Choice Book Award for Outstanding Academic Title. His financial bestsellers include "The Complete Guide to Financial Privacy" (Simon & Schuster, 1983), "High Finance on a Low Budget" (Bantam, 1981), co-authored with his wife Jo Ann, "Scrooge Investing" (Little Brown, 1995; McGraw Hill, 1999), and "Investing in One Lesson" (Regnery, 2007). In 2006, he compiled and edited "The Completed Autobiography, by Benjamin Franklin (Regnery)." In honor of his work in economics, finance and management, Grantham University renamed its business school, "The Mark Skousen School of Business." Dr. Skousen has lived in eight nations and traveled and lectured throughout the United States and 70 countries. He grew up in Portland, Ore. He and his wife, Jo Ann, and five children have lived in Washington, D.C.; Nassau, the Bahamas; London, England; Orlando, Fla.; and New York.

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  • http://www.personalliberty.com Robert Reilly

    Point: Rush said that he would go to Costa Rica for healthcare, not leave the country. I expect the main stream media to misquote Rush but not you!

    • James

      Robert R., Rush appears to have said “If all that stuff gets implimented, I will leave the country.” I see no indication that he said he would go somewhere for his healthcare. Am I missing something? Rush would defect because of socialism, not poor healthcare.

      • Vicki

        I happened to be listening to the Rush Limbaugh show that morning. He said at least a paragraph of things and did say he would leave the country. The full paragraph however includes restating that and explaining that he would go out of country for health care. This directly implies that he would be doing what so many citizens of other countries do now. And that he would not be “moving out of the country”

        • Randy Michigan

          NO, NO he said he would move out of the country, Bye, Bye!

          • Ron with Ears

            Rush it not even going to Costa Rica since his Health Plan will not support him down there.
            You should listen and pay attention to what he says, not what some liberal bloggers parrot from rahm emmanuel and his sycophants….

            He is looking for a place to get DECENT TIMELY HEALTH CARE. He will not be leaving the USA for permanent residence.
            Even he knows that obamas came here from Kenya since the living conditions there are terrible.
            After all who would support obama’s spending if Rush leaves with all his taxable income.
            Say Hallelujah
            RSTG

          • Dude

            People like you deserve misfortune. Ignorance has led this country down the wrong path and we’ll be paying for it for decades. The context was he would go to Costa Rica for care, not permanent residence. If you’re the type that just just hears what you want to hear, how you want to hear it then it does not surprise me you not only voted for Obama but you probably still believe he’s good for you. You hate Rush because if he’s right about most the stuff he’s talks about then we really are all SOL.
            To Jeff, just because you don’t want to hear it, doesn’t mean it’s a lie. Not a good way of coping there buddy.

      • Pugsley

        They are still mainstream media! There is so much more going on than most people realize. Go watch “The O’bama Deception” and The Fall of the Republic” Also Webster Tarpley does a video on youtube called “The men behind Barack Hussein O’bama” ALL OF THEM ARE A MUST SEE!!!!!

        • http://NA Karen

          Hey, thanx Pugsley, I will check them out.

          Dictator Obama is really a Gem eh? Now we are on the verge of war with Korea?????

          He is an occupier of the American Presidential Seat. He mislead the American People to vote for him and now that he is in office, he is dismanteling our country. Why do we let him do this?

          He is the equivalent of a treasoner and no one does anything.

          Everyone wanted to Impeach Clinton for a sex act but no one flips when our freedoms are in danger, we are in danger from no protection from terrorists, our money is being spent and we are bankrupt and own by China.

          What about all of this information doesn’t anyone understand.

          Oh btw, thanx a lot CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC for ommitting the truth from every single news report that you are broadcasting.

          This is called PROPAGANDA…when a news agency (or anyone) reveals only information that would favor one side. Sound familiar??

    • Ferrosynthesis

      Costa Rico has single payer health care. If Rush is that patriotic that he will leave the country, let him go. We’ll miss him, the clown that he is.

      • refuse2lose

        The only clowns we have are in the three ring circus convening in Washington.Obama,Pelosi and Reid really missed their calling.They could have actually been the best at something besides destroying America.

        • john larry

          you are so right! In my lifetime I’ve never seem so many dis honest people in our government. These people are the leaders of this great nation.

          • Ray

            The most dishonest people are the CEO ‘s of major corporations that has a license to steal especially wall street and the drug companies.

            Very few comments are directed at the corporations who have taken billions -no make that Trillions of American wealth aided by the Repulican party.

            And all of this stuff about socailized medicine – which is just a scare tactic used by conservatives to promote thier own agenda is just nonsense.

            We are a nation addicted to drugs which is what the drug companies wants. Doctors are willing participants in this nonsense. Have you ever asked yourself why after 40 years of cancer research why isn’t there a cure for cancer or heart disease?

            We are bombarded with TV drugs ads for Flu vaccines , blood pressure, heart disease and cholesterol. None of these drugs cures nothing. If the US government was really serious about the health of americans then they would stop the drug companies from comprising our food supply with thier drugs -promote healthy eating and to not to ban alternative treatments that may help us.

          • denniso

            GOOD RIDDANCE LIMBAUGH!!!Leave, be my guest,I’ll open the door for you,you traitorous fat cat drug addict.
            All the hate directed at elected representatives,and so little at the people who actually deserve the hate…large corporations that have taken over most of our ‘elected’ gov’t and our very lives. Limbaugh NEVER rants against corporate control or abuse,he only spurs hate and intolerance of real people who are trying to keep the country going and ensure some degree of fairness in our corporate controlled society. Like I said,GOOD RIDDANCE LIMBAUGH!!!! Sad thing though is that he’s only lying again…he’s too cowardly to leave and too addicted to his loving sheep to give it up.

        • Mike In MI

          Hey there, refuse2lose – Got a question for you.

          In all the time I’ve been watching these three monkeys all clambering around on this pumpkin looking for the screwy place there has been one thing constant. Barak Hussein has never once proposed a bill.

          So, what?

          Well, the one up for grabs does a thorough trashing of the Constitution and some of our Bill of Rights…rips ‘em up. As it stands that leaves Nancy and Harry and the “yea” voters on the hook for breach of promise and failure to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States of America. But, WHO NEVER PROPOSED ANYTHING? Right, B. Hussein, “the Hoser”, can’t be claimed to have failed to defend and protect since he never submitted anything with his name on it. So, even if we get rid of all the Democrats in the House and Senate we’re still gettin’ stuck by him.

          I just wonder if he hasn’t done it this way just so he can protect himself from the charge of trying to dismantle and destroy the documents of our fundamental freedoms and guarantors of our rights?
          Is that phraseable as an impeachable offence (?) to be carried out later when conservatives and patriots take charge again.

          Is there some way we an get the Chicago conman to commit to this 2300 or so page piece of pornography? Somebody ought to raise a ruckus about it.

          • Randy Michigan

            You will not stop Change, it is going to happen. Start a civil war and get crushed by the American military.

        • J C

          Are you confusing patriotism with loyalism? They are very different things.

    • Hugh Jordan

      If that vituperous load wants to leave, goodbye and good riddance.

      His only real patriotism is to his wallet (filled by the gullible) and to all the drugs he takes. many hear call the Dems nut jobs… have you ever really taken a look at Rush?

      How can anyone perceive him to be sane watching him jump around, gesticulate, rant, and act like a colon with feet and a fat gut?

      • Joe H.

        Hugh,
        i can tell you are just repeating the demprogressive rant. If you had actually been watching Rush, you would have noticed he has lost a good deal of weight and you would not have called him fat. If you are going to post, at least make it something from YOU and not some regurgitated rant!!!!

        • Hugh Jordin

          this is from me. I, me , myself, find him repulsive as a human being and a stirrer up of hatred. If you allow this vile person to shape your thinking, it’s your problem.

          • Jana

            Hugh, if you really think that, then you are the one with the problem. If someone giving out information, if someone giving out the truth threatens you that much, yes, you definitely have a problem.

          • Hugh Jordin

            Truth…From Rush???!!! You have got to be delusional.

          • Bob

            You’re either very stupid or intentionally blind. I’m voting for the former (by the way, that means the first option).

          • Ray

            Hugh, I’m in agreement with you about Rush. This guy just promotes hate and fear. Personally I think that the people who listen to him are just looking to blame their problems on something or someone.

            The past 30 years {20 years of Repulican rule} we have seen an growth in the number of illegals in the country. They over run our healthcare system , schools and other government services. Yet during the Bush years no effort was made to slowed the inflow of illegals.

            The U.S. is in the middle of a great recession. Companies find it hard to hire people because of the high cost of doing business. Why do you think that pensions plan are becoming a thing of the past? Or why do companies past on the cost of increased insurance costs to the employees? Why? because it has become to expensive to do business here in Americs. Until we can get health costs under control – it may be a long time before US corporations can start hiring people at a decent wage.

            What does Rush has to say about that? He always offers critism but no solutions.

      • Dennis

        Libs keep talking about Rush’s money, but NEVER complain about Kerry’s money, The Kennedy money, Pelosi’s money, George Soros’s money, etc., not to mention all of the Hollywood rich that bitch about giving tax breaks to the rich. Each of them have more money than Rush, and they rob it from all of us. And now, Obama is living like a fat cat on our money. He is far outdoing Rush in the luxury department, using Air Force One like he it’s his personal plane. So stop being so hypocrtical by calling Conservatives “the Rich”. It’s total BS.

        • Jana

          Hugh, Dennis is right on this.

        • J C

          Rev. Gore’s global warming money?

          • Jana

            Right! They never complain about Algores money the millions that he has made from his lies. The only time a loving, kindhearted, freedom thinking LIBERAL complains is if a conservative speaks out. Then all of their sweet love and kindness to all creatures big and small go out the door. Their hatred spews forth as we are witnessing.

    • Deborah Anne Williams

      Dear Friends,

      If you are taking your money out of the country, please go with your coveted savings and stay there. Canada is nice, but good luck getting in. If you think we are becoming a socialist nation you all know nothing about socialism.

      We live in a free nation. We are not taxed to the gills to pay for health care as I was in Canada. We also have the best health care in the world. We are not sent over 1000 miles for a complex heart surgery, or made to wait months to see an oncologist because one is not close by. Go to Canada! A socialist nation that has health care for all. See how much comes out of your salary to pay for everyones care. 12% sales tax and high prices for food. The costs for health care are low including Dr.’ salaries. Canadians have little to no say on how their process is conducted. We can vote and speak.

      Your rage is unfounded. You are clustering in groups who are tarnishing your minds with hate for our country. Step away from the people throwing dollar bills at a man with Parkinson’s. Is this your truth? Think about it. Do you really think this bill will take your money to pay for people with disabilities? We all have been paying for the uninsured, why do you think our premiums have risen??? To pay for the illegal to walks into the ER, that is why.

      I feel that the right wing conservatives have jumped on a bandwagon of misinformation. I am disabled with Multiple Sclerosis and my husband has Parkinson’s. I never wished illness on anyone until now. I saw right wing conservatives berating a man with disabilities.

      You don’t pay for me. I have insurance and worked for the money I collect. Our money we worked for is coming back to us due to our illness that keeps us from holding a job.

      I’m glad that Rush could afford to pay cash for his heart surgery. Many people cannot pay and need insurance to cover their visits to a Dr. instead of waisting money by going to the ER. Disease will strike anyone when you least expect it. Watch your backs, and be ready to pay should you be stricken with a life changing disease.

      BTW, would you hire me?
      Mild paralysis with amblyopia and diplopia.
      I’ll work for you but I can’t stand for long periods of time due to chronic spasticity of the limbs. What about my husband? He could work, but has episodes of freezing up, drooling and falling. He needs help with all of his daily needs. Tea Party goers think that a person with Parkinson’s should work. Hire him please.

      Regards from the great state of New Hampshire

      DAW

      • Dude

        That was the most confusing thing I’ve ever read. You seem to love our health care system as it is and now and hated on Canada’s which is what it is supposed to be like in 4 years. You rip on Republicans but it sounds like you should be voting for them. Poor poor indoctrinated lady with a mind of her own is what that all sounded like. You should re-read what you wrote and figure your sh*& out. LMAO

      • Dude

        Also as someone who actively seeks employment and always sees at the bottom: Women, minorities and people with DISABILITIES encouraged to apply. AKA White males need not apply. I can tell you it isn’t Republican voters encouraging this kind of sexist and racist employment. The irony here, I’d tell your husband to apply to any of these positions with the code words at he bottom, they’ll find something for him just might not be the job he applied for. Deborah I really hope you were using the satyrical approach so only a select few could see that you are actually making fun of liberals because if not, you just made me crack up regardless!

    • Lynne Randall

      My husband just started getting Social Security retirement but has to continue to work. I am also on Social Security and also work a part time job. With this bill passage, our Medicare Advantage will be going away. It isn’t great but it’s better than straight Medicare. I am a below knee amputee, have had the other knee replaced, and am in need of surgery on my hand and a new prosthesis. What do we Seniors do now??? I can’t imagine what it is going to be like for my 91 year old Mother. Mt husband and I are going to retire, eventually, in Panama. The cost is about 50% less than here and they treat retirees like us a lot better than our own country does. My husband says that we will have to pay for health care no matter what. We don’t have a choice! I thought that was the whole idea about American; freedom of choice……

    • Mick

      More brilliance – so Rush is saying I am gonna leave this becoming socialized medical system for a fully socialized medical system. Amazing the stupid dribble that comes from his mouth.

  • http://donthaveone Beberoni

    The thing is, these liberal whack jobs keep pushing their agenda and upping costs on business’s, more and more will leave the United States for other countries. So once you liberals rid the country of these evil big business, what are you all going to to for work? Think about it.

    • George

      “. So once you liberals rid the country of these evil big business, what are you all going to to for work? ”

      …they’re going to live on hopes and dreams.. and maybe pixie dust..

      • Nancy

        they will be made to work in government owned business and on government owned farms and live in poverty and die of curable deseases because this is what they want.

      • J C

        Don’t worry George, they won’t have to make those decisions for themselves. Big Brother will tell them what to do. When to get up, where to work, when to die….

    • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

      Go!

      Just go!

      Who will hire you where you’re going?

      • Joe H.

        radio,
        now I know your brain is frozen, if you actually have one to freeze!! The people leaving are the ones that DO the hireing not the ones looking to GET hired!! Hope that new world order works real good for you!!! Star Trec it isn’t!!!!

        • TIME

          Joe,
          How right you are.

    • Joe H.

      Berberoni,
      where you been lately??? Haven’t seen too much of you. Don’t be so scarce friend!!!!

  • Robert

    I agree with R. Reilly, but again, as usual, Rush was correct when he specifically said that everyone would say he would leave the country without putting it in context.

    • Ferrosynthesis

      Rush wasn’t misquoted, he just changed his story later for the gullible

      • Jana

        Ferry, You wish.

        • Joe H.

          Jana,
          Is that spelled Fairy???

          • Jana

            LOL not on purpose.

  • Melinda Payne

    Thanks for correcting Rush’s comment Robert, I heard Rush when he said this. There are enough “lame stream media” out there misquoting Rush, we don’t need the conservatives misquoting him as well.

  • John

    WE, should not have to leave our country. We need to purge the progressive/revisionist/leftist/marxist/socialist elements from our country. We can start with Hollywood and Washington DC, and “Move-On” from there. And waterboard George Soros each day, before deporting him and his minions. It can be bloodless, or not, but we need to hit the “Reset” button real soon.

    • Barb

      I agree with you John! I’ve often joked about moving to Australia but we will stay and fight to our death if need be to save our country and rid it of these animals! Waterboarding Soros isn’t harsh enough but it’s a start make sure the water is boiling hot and do the same to Pelosi! Let the revolution begin, soonest!!!! We can’t sit back and wait any longer people!

      • Ellen

        I to don’t think/want to leave my country. IT is OUR Country and while we slept the enemies moved in. WE need to take a stand re-move them from “OUR COUNTRY”, and send them packing. Maybe put them on a chain gang to re-pay what they stole. Our forefathers escaped dictatorship/communisium/socialisium and setteld here to make a New Land of Freedom for us, believing we would take care of it!
        The Stoogis in Washington D.C. are doing there level best to ruin America while they waste the Tax Payers money on all there fooling around and OUR $$ for all there drinks while they injoy themselves.
        Is is possible to Impeach more then one person? Pay attention to the votes and who is wasting our money, I guess.

      • John H

        Unfortunately Australia is a step ahead of us on the social march. They disallowed gun ownership last year and it wont be long now until the tax payers are knuckled under. Let’s see how that goes from a long way off.

    • Nancy

      I agree, this is my country and I should not have to leave it because a bunch of commies have taken it over with the help of our “annointed one” as Hannity calls him. And we can take back AMERICA with no blood shed this november if we can keep things like acorn our.

      • DaveH

        One thing we can do is to press our state legislators to enforce the Constitution through Supreme Court cases to stop this illegitimate power grab by the Federal Government. The Conservative States could get together and pass nullification laws:
        http://www.humblelibertarian.com/2009/12/nullification-friend-of-liberty.html
        If need be, we could even secede from this Unholy Union where the Federal Government refuses to abide by the main law of the land, the Constitution.
        For those of you stuck in the Liberal States – my heart goes out to you.

    • thefedupamerican

      To actually affect Hollywood, we need to starve it of resources. Every one of us should stop going to see films that are anti-American or that has Leftist Directors, Producers or Stars. Yep we’d have to stay home on date night, but the way to reach these idiots is through their pocketbooks. http://www.thefedupamerican.com

      • DaveH

        Excellent point Fedup. We, as Conservative Freedom-Lovers need to employ the Boycott tool like the Liberals have in the past. Boycott any business that promotes the Liberal Agenda.
        I have for years avoided movies that have Ultra-Liberal stars in them such as Alec Baldwin.

        • Ellen

          Right on!! The hungy learn the fastest. I think it really snowballed in Hollywood and the evil media, so that makes a lot of T.V. off limits they need to learn too. More time to do what we need to do, while they starve.

          • Pat R

            Why do you think Obama decided to go on Foxnews? Because of Fox’s rating. I applaud the host for continuing to Overspeak Obama. Serves them right! Pay back for the “elite snubbiness that Fox has received!

          • DaveH

            Pat,
            For the sake of education, I suppose I should watch what Obama has to say. But 15 seconds of his interview was enough for me. I didn’t have any dramamine available.

        • Joe H.

          DaveH,
          I’ve done that for years If there’s a movie I want to see I wait till it’s at the library!!! that way they don’t make a cent off me! I refuse to line the pockets of people determined to ruin this nation! the stupid thing is that they don’t realize this party was the one that banned them from making movies in this country, costing them extra money by having to travel to other countries to film movies that show fight scenes with full automatic weapons in them!!! FACT!!!

          • Joe H.

            DaveH,
            I mis-stated. I did take my daughter to all three of the Harry Potter movies for her birthday!!!

        • Jana

          DaveH I have also avoided them for years. I don’t even like or enjoy seeing them act since I know they have such a Communistic view. I am now including Tom Hanks in that catagory.

          • DaveH

            Yeah, I was disappointed to see that Tom Hanks was part of the Liberal establishment.

          • Joe H.

            DaveH,
            One of the good actors Fess Parker died yesterday. What a loss!!!

    • http://www.my-sara.com Jack Nitka

      How about first we put a Fascist group that put us in this mess in prison: Bush, Cheney and the group…..

      • Nancy

        grow up!! It is a million times worse now then the day the annointed one took office. Bush NEVER tried to take over business. They NEVER tried to force socialist health care down our throats and never tried to tax us out of exisistance. In fact Bush lowered taxes but surprize surprize, the annointed one is going to let the Bush tax cuts go when it is expired. They kept us safe for 8 long years. Now terroist attacks any where in the good old USA.

        • John

          Bush never tried to take over business he just opened the treasury and let businesses take what they wanted!!
          Jeb Bush once made the comment that he “would bankrupt the USA to put an end to social Security”. Sure seems like George took Jeb’s advice….

          • Ellen

            YES WAKE UP! It started LONG before Bush! We were quitly prepared for slaughter. We were in a pot of cool water while “the unseen ONES (lib),” started turning up the heat, and it will get hotter and hotter if we don’t wake up and stand up for ourselves! They will take our money and run.

          • Jana

            Ok, jack and john, how is bringing down Bush going to help us out of the quagmire that we are in now with Obama. Obama is out to turn this country into a third world country, Communism and all. So we need to concentrate on what to do about THIS problem, not on your petty grievances with the past administration. We all know he wasn’t perfect and we all know in many things he was wrong. But, we have a major problem that is going on right now and we need to stop our country from being changed into a Socialist / Communist country NOW.

          • John

            Jana, the bigger question is, how do you think the same people (GOP) that got us into this mess would get us out? By cutting taxes and running the national debt up even higher?

          • Jana

            Sorry John, the bigger question is what can we do now, we are not playing a game of what ifs.

        • Ray

          Nancy, perhaps you were asleep but 9/11 happened while the 2nd G. Bush was president.

          And the 1st G. Bush tried to overhaul the healthcare industry. I facts several president has tried.

        • cvw

          Then who did TARP#1?

          • cvw

            I’m afraid if you want to use a conservative president as a comparison you will have to go back to Reagan. We have none to blame but ourselves and the way we vote. I agree with the idea that there should be a short 3 questions about each candidate on the ballot and if you cant answer them correctly then your vote is voided. Voting for someone because they look a certain way is pure suicide and voting for someone because of their ethnic background is in itself racist. If we would listen to what these candidates are saying what they want to do instead of how bad the other guy is or how they make you feel or some newscasters interpretation then we could actually have some grounds to complain. Also I am tired of hearing obama compared to hitler. It is obvious that he is Stalin incarnate giving this country its final blows of the cold war. So now tell me who won the cold war? I’ve been to Russia and it is more free there.

      • Jerry Mobley

        John, Barb, Nancy, thefedupamerican, and Jack Nitka;
        What each of you said is absolutely correct. It gives me peace to know that others share my love for these United States and our Constituion. I will never quit on my GOD or my Country and as before I am prepared to lay down my life in their defense. We must take back our government from these internal communist by what ever means it takes. Tyranny can not be Tolerated!!!

        • mark

          Jerry
          Sign me up. Leaving this country, although tempting, is not an option.
          The USA is still the best place to live in the entire hemisphere. People are still flocking here to get away from Obama like regimes. If the USA goes so does the world

      • John Blair

        Jack, you poor, misguided man. Do you not realize that the current administration is trying to socialize this country at light speed? Do you not understand that BHO is an imposter, who has sealed his records, from kindergarten through Harvard law school until 2058 when will be 98 years old and he did this on his first day in office? Are you unaware of the fact that his grandparents were communists, he was mentored by Frank Marshall Davis, a communist and a drug dealer in Hawaii? I pity people who are angered by the Bush administration, when the current one is the most secretive and corrupt administration we have ever had in this nations history? Do you ever wonder what happened to the promise of an open and transparent presidency? If none of this causes you concern, I would have to say you need to get your priorities straight. Good luck with that.

        • John

          John you poor misguided man. Do you realize that George Bush instituted the prescription health plan and then nationalized the banks???…. GWB was the most socialist president we have seen in 50 years!

          • blackhat

            You may be right that “GWB was the most socialist president we have seen in 50 years!” Key word, WAS. Now we have obama! The newly crowned king of socialism…Thank you for pointing that out.

          • Jana

            just plain john, if you can’t get up and get your head out of the sand and come into the now, then you are living in a fantasy land.

      • Claire

        Jack Nitka–well, if you start with them, you better start with all the others from 30-50 years ago. Our government has had constant barrage of idiotic politicians for years. If you blame one of them, you most certainly have to “blame” all of them.

      • Joe H.

        Jack N.
        Just as long as the present group of theives, liars and communists are right beside him!!! I’ll sacrifice two for that!!!!

    • CJ

      John’s right, we shouldn’t have to leave. Reality is, there is no country that could handle the population explosion and survive for long without economical distress. The only recourse is to remove them, and not just from office. Al Gore has been removed from office, but is still doing damage. Just taking away their power won’t take away their voice. Now that they’ve had a taste of absolute power, they won’t settle for less. They will constantly strive to ruin the country. Only two options, as I see it… make their point illegal (unlikely under freedom of speach) or banish them from the country. Good luck with either. That leaves educating the illinformed, and as long as they are addicted to their entitlements, they won’t be very easy to educate. The right choice is seldom the easy one.

    • Mick

      So John, how do you purge?

      Do you and your Neo-Nazi friends round up everyone who does not believe Rushes stupid crap and put them in concentration camps?

      Big problem. We outnumber you and that is why we voted and placed Obama and the rest in their positions of power.

      Please tell me more about you insane militant views. Hope home land security is watching you.

      Just follow Rush to Costa Rica.

  • s c

    Sadly, most Americans don’t have the luxury of moving to another country. Those who should be leaving (two-legged rats) are friends and family members of the ones who have caused our financial problems for more than 100 years. It is entirely possible that we will have a Fortress America situation in the near future, where we have to take back America from the dark forces that temporarily enjoy “power.”
    Lightning can strike twice. Those who expect the rest of us to endure their fantasies can learn the hard way. King George learned. The world saw what can happen when slavery threatens to strangle people who want to be FREE.
    Some lessons have to be re-learned. This time, perhaps historians can give future generations better reasons for remaining free – and occasionally tarring, feathering and “teaching” those who refuse to learn the difference between FREEDOM and SERVITUDE.

  • Loren

    A couple of things here. 1. 300,000,000 people aren’t able to leave the USA and why should they. This is our country not Obama’s (one big ass mistake America). 2. Where is it that this government has the authority to destroy the nation at our expense? Are we the greatest nation on the planet or are we the biggest cowards on the planet? Which is it? Where is the former President George Bush on all this and why is he so quiet when Carter has a big idiot mouth and puts his foot in it every time he speaks? America, you are giving far more grace to this government in light of the destruction that this government is going to give you. Destroying your marriage, your family, your lives. Are you going to stand by and let a fraud president and fraud government kill you? I would love to hear what you all have to say when this goes down and you have nowhere to turn except the street, if you’re lucky.

    • Strawberry Shortcake

      Glad someone said it, thanks Loren. I want to know the same thing. When are people going to realize that “voting” them out just might not work? That if they pass this healthcare bill now November won’t mean a damn thing? I’ve been sitting in front of my television astounded at the new levels of low they stoop and how we are just takin it up the ass. When will enough be enough? Will it be too late when people decide to fight (and I mean the real kind)? Was the Revolution a history lesson that we are just too “advanced” (or cowardly) to repeat? Has those kind of ideals been bred out of us? Maybe through our government-controlled public education. I love how all the NRA people say when they come for our guns (which is coming, they are gonna get the guns out of the hands of the people) then we will fight. Yeah. Just like Katrina right? They came for their guns and most handed them right over, though I recall video of an elderly lady who was beat down (by OUR guard) because she believed in her right, maybe she was old enough to know what it means to ACTUALLY believe in something. Those people had the right to protect themselves and they were stripped of their right to do so. I hope and pray we aren’t doomed to the same fate when everything we know collapses…

      • Pat R

        Are you aware that Obama used implants at the Rally in Ohio to get the crowd agitated enough to get the Representative who had previously voted “NO” to change his vote? Don’t ever think that they will do things fairly!
        Keep praying and Keep the Faith!
        God Please Bless America Again! Amen

        • Joe H.

          PatR,
          I just want to know what was said on that flight on AF1 that Kookcinich Took with Obummer!!! He was promised something and I want to know what it was!!

          • Jana

            JoeH, maybe he was promised that he wouldn’t be thrown off of the plane in mid air unless he changed his vote. You know, Chicago style leadership. LOL

          • Joe H.

            AMEN SISTER!!!!

      • loren

        Thanks Shortcake. Glad to see there are some people out there that get who their real enemy is and are not going down without a fight. It will come to that and it will be all or nothing

    • Mary

      I totally agree with you! McCain would not speak out on Obama and his associates during the campaign and lost the election. Believe me I sent plenty of msgs. to him to do so and to not vote for the 1st bail out he rushed to Washington to promote.
      One of the big problems we had with McCain running was that primaries are not all held on the same day like a regular election and should be because by the time they get to many states a lot if not all the candidates are missing from the ballot. Had this not been the case I don’t think McCain would have been the Republican nominee. Maybe we would have had a better chance defeting Obama even with Acorn and the money and corruption the unions provided on Obama’s behalf.
      And as far as George Bush goes I too wonder why he is not speaking out. He did not speak of Clinton and his mistakes nor of the damage and destruction thier admistration left both in the White House and Airforce One when they left office because he wanted to look at the future and not the past. It may have been prudent then but it certainly is not good now, our future looks quite bleak under the current administration and we need him and every other freedom loving American to stand up and be heard (at least try to be).

      • Ellen

        WHO our Bush, McCain scared off?? McCain seemed afaid of something/someone? How is “the great idiot,” going about to try and get his votes; twisting arms, breaking legs, and empty promises give to buy votes? So called politions are buckling under giving him a vote! OH they aren’t working for the people, the scaredy cats wipe the great ones nose and FOR GET THE PEOPLE! IT has got to Change, FAST!

      • Jana

        I think McCain was just too old to campaign properly.

      • CJ

        I believe the only reason McCain won the primary was his ideals were far different than the others, who were nearly alike. By doing this, the other three split the majority, over all, but dropped out when they still had fewer than McCain. There should be a runoff between only two contenders when so many start in a primary, or make a second choice for your vote to go to when your first choice quits. A drop-out candidate is a lost vote in my book.

        • Jana

          CJ, many of us didn’t have a choice. By the time the Texas primaries were held the decisions were already made. Therefore, I think all of the primaries ought to be held on the same day. The other way is pure nonsense. I knew who I wanted to vote for when the first primary was held.

          • Joe H.

            Jana,
            I agree completely. This has been a sore spot for me for a long time now being from Ohio!!!!

    • Claire

      Loren–There is nothing in this world that will make me leave America. We simply impeach or vote them out of office. The bills that are being shoved through can always be amended later. If we live long enough.

  • James

    Sounds like the perfect plan, leave the country to live in real socialist countries! Brilliant! Don’t let the door hit you on the way out! Rush, going to Costa Rica for socialized medicine to escape socialized medicine…. “stupid is as stupid does.”

    • EDGEWATERVINCE

      RIGHT ON

    • Joe H.

      James,
      what youy don’t get is that it’s a protest to what they are doing to our once great nation!!! He would rather travel to another country than give worth to this illegal scheme!!!

      • James

        Joe H., I didn’t make that comment, see just below. I should think that if one doesn’t like what is happening to his country, he would fight to the death, if necessary, to save it – not leave it.

    • James

      I am the ‘James’ who made the comments above this. I did not make this one. There two James’ again.

    • http://Don'thaveone Sally

      I can see from your stupid comments you have no understanding about Costa Rica which I am glad. Anyone can go there and get first quality healthcare = their hospitals are top of the line even more uptodate that ours, Dr’s most are trained in the US – and for what we pay 100′s of thousands of dollars for you can pay out of your checking account. They just completed a state of the art hospital in southern Costa Rica. There are more American repats living there then in any other country in the world. Panama is in the same league.

  • http://www.easyinvest.co.za pete

    Just remember everyone – when the bubble bursts and it sure is going to, there will not be anywhere to go anymore, so the real solution lies in stopping these morons before the matter gets worse.

    Prevention is better than treatment every time!

    Get them out before they declare war on you!

    They will militarize, subjugate and put you all in servitude. I was always under the impression that government was there for the people and not the other way round – what a nit I am!

    • Ladybounty

      Hey Pete….I’m sure that you’re talking about the “GEORGE W. BUSH BUBBLE of deceit, lies, unfounded wars, tax breaks for the richest, and on and on and on! Well, I’m here to tell you that THAT BUBBLE BURST in NOVEMBER of 2009. NOW the idiots in this country need to wake up and realize it. The years after years of economic damage ARE NOT the fault or responsibility of this President. WHY those who let George W. basically destroy this country DO NOT SEE THAT is wayyyyyy beyond my comprehension and I have given up trying to understand their mis-guided viewpoints.
      Democracy and government should NOT be controlled by or based on radical, extremist views and actions. It’s never worked and never will. Majority ruled and hopefully WILL ALWAYS! hmmmmm that is unless the GOP can figure out a way to get rid of that too!

      • Nancy

        WHO ARE YOU ANYWAY!!??

      • Strawberry Shortcake

        Ladybounty, you speak with such ignorant confidence. People like you are the problem. I don’t think many of the regulars on this forum will dispute Bush’s role, but it goes on back the line sweetheart. Bush was just another piece of the machine. So since you are so busy blaming Bush I am assuming you feel Obama and his Congress thugs are doing a bang-up job??? Please do-tell.

        • Ladybounty

          After reading all the crap on here, you say that I speak with ignorance? Well, that would be funny if it wasn’t so sad and frightening.
          George W. Bush’s ROLE?? You act as though he played a small part in a play or something. How about this…….the WHOLE PLAN that George W. Bush orchestrated and implemented caused this mess??
          At least THIS GUY is DOING SOMETHING!
          Imagine if you will..that Bush stole another election and got in for a third time somehow……WHO WOULD BE DOING ANYTHING TO FIX THIS THEN?

          You are scary!

          • Vicki

            If you bothered to provide links or cites to back up your assertions you would be more believable. As it stands you make grand claims about Bush and how the dumb pres managed to hoodwink so many smart people but provide no examples or proofs of this claim.

            I am still amused at how so many “liberals” claim at the same time that bush was dumb as a bush but still managed to do so many “evil” things.

          • Joe H.

            Ladybounty,
            If majority rules then why is this bill being passed/ 68% of the people don’t want it and 75% want them to start over from scratch!!!! When I was in school, 68% and 75% were both majority!!! Gee I guess you are just another liberal shill with a “bounty” of lies!!!

          • Jana

            ladybounty,
            You are the scary one. You sound like you don’t know who is President now, and who is causing problems in the here and now. WAKE UP!!

            You are wrong.

          • loren

            Hey ladybounty, Hope you are able to make ends meet with your body, because that is what happens all over the world when the women have nowhere and no men to protect them against this kind of destruction

          • Claire

            Ladybounty–Maybe you had better read the health reform bill.

          • J C

            Ok look, another Obama apologist deriding Bush. What a waste of air…riding the red/blue see-saw is a dead end at best.
            The whole damned system needs to be returned to the original Constitution and all these crooks (red and blue) jailed.

        • Ray

          Shortcake; The reason that we are in this mess is because of the Bushes. What’s happening today is the culmination of 12 years of Bush 1 and 2 policies and catering to the wishs of wall street.

      • Jerry Mobley

        Ladybounty,
        The democratic party (obama, reid, pelosi) is now the communist party. They want the government to control your every move. They want you to have no individual freedom. They want you to forget about the Constitution of the United States of America. They want you to be in servitude to them. They want to CONTROL your life from the cradle to the grave and also my life, you can give them yours if you wish but you can’t give them mine.

      • DaveH

        LadyBounty,
        First of all, I’m not a Bush supporter, but what Deceit? I’ll show you mine if you show me yours:
        http://www.sodahead.com/fun/obama-lies-and-broken-promises/blog-178999/
        Bush is no longer President, get over it!

        And tax breaks for the Richest? The top 1% of wage earners pay 40% of the Income Taxes. You call that a break? The bottom 50% of the wage earners pay only 3% of the Income Taxes. You call that their fair share? And that bottom 50% of non-payers expect the Government to do things their way?

        As usual, the Liberals can only post unsupported facts and personal attacks.

        • John

          according to the US Gov the top 1% pay 33% of the taxes but own 50% of the total wealth in the USA. Sounds like a break to me……

          • Joe H.

            john,
            Why, because they were smarter than you and did something with their money??? sounds like jelousy to me!!!!

          • blackhat

            True the rich make more money than you John. So I guess that we should all pay one third of our income…or, are you looking at this differently? If you make $10 a week and “they” make $100 a week, you should pay 2.5% (a quarter) and “they” should pay 33% ($33). So, “they” would actually be paying 132 times the amount you are paying. Or, are you just whining that “they” have a hundred square feet more floorspace in their homes, that “they” have a newer car, or “they” can eat out more often than you? Tell me John, what exactly are you complaining about?

          • DaveH

            John, the top 1% pay 40% of the Income Taxes.
            http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html

            And there are people all over the world whose incomes would make you look like a rich man. Should you be brought to parity with them?

            Put away those green-colored glasses, John, the Politics of Envy never results in good outcomes.

          • DaveH

            And of course they own more, because they don’t spend all their money as fast as they earn it like the poor do. They invest in companies and capital goods, which make our economy what it is. Without their money and knowledge our economy would go into the tank, and most of us would be wanting for jobs.

          • CJ

            The top 1% get CREDIT for paying the tax, but they just pass it down the line. They’re not dumb enough to take the hit themselves. That’s why they make the money. I’m glad they do, otherwise I wouldn’t have a job. The bottom of the economy always suffers the tax, in the form of higher cost of goods. It’s basic economics. So, lowering tax on the rich is good for everybody!

          • Norm

            Some of these guys are smart and talented and do great things for the country and that benefits all of us. On the other hand, most are decendents of people who made a lot of money by hook or crook or s–t luck. Money begets money. I’m an investor, and I do well. But I never forget that this is money made off of the backs of hard working people(and some not so hard working).

          • DaveH

            Norm,
            Those Hard Workers don’t have to work for anybody they don’t want to work for. At least not yet. If you Liberals have your way it might come to that.
            The only thing stopping those hard workers from starting their own business is Government with the ridiculous Licensing requirements and other meddling rules which prevent competition.
            So, if indeed, they are being taken advantage of, you are looking in the wrong direction, as it is Government that is taking advantage of them. And you want more of it!

          • Joe H.

            DaveH,
            I noticed that he didn’t say he felt bad about taking profit from those investments, nor is he giving them back!!!!

          • John

            WOW hit a sore spot with a simple comment. first off JOE and DAVEH, I am in that top 1% very bottom of it, but still there, so your comments show your prejudiced ignorance.

            Do I want to pay more taxes – hell no. However, Reagan and Bush both proved that trickle down does not work – the only thing it does is add to the national debt. Which yes, you WILL have to pay back one way or another. If you want to admit it or not Cutting taxes is the SAME THING as increasing Government spending, probably worse because it forces the government to borrow from the Chinese.

            The more you make the more you can afford. My solution, count ALL forms of income as income, interest, dividends, capital gains, and then eliminate all loopholes and sneaky additions (AMT) to income then do a modified flat tax. Three tax brackets, you make XX send in X.

          • blackhat

            You are so right John! Trickle down was terrible for the country! Let’s see…hmmm…Eighteen months after Regan cut taxes, actual receipts to the govt doubled, unemployment was cut by 2/3…yeah, that pesky policy was a failure alright. Now, oman has dumped billions into the economy and will raise taxes next year. So, far there has not been any real movement in the jobless rate, but investments have gone down sharply. The best govt estimates say that receipts will go down sharply next year and unemployment will stay high for three more years. But, we should give oman another 6 months, right? Somehow, I do not see it getting better…

          • Jana

            Yes, blackhat, like we can really believe John is what he claims.

      • http://personalliberty.com Stillfree

        Ladybounty. If, as you say, Bush’s policies crippled this country with uncontrolled spending etc, then the horrendous spending of obama and crew will surely destroy what’s left of this country! Obama and crew have spent more in the 1st year than the combined total spending of all previous presidents from George Washington thru and including George W. Bush. Next, obama plans to spend TRILLIONS more in the following years. And, if that isn’t enough to “frost your cake”, you most likely are unaware that every “Entitlement Program” created by the government costs more than the initial estimates by a factor of 2 to 11 times. This fact alone demonstrates that this country cannot afford the outrageous programs of this administration. IF we could Freeze All Govt Spending AND Every Citizen & Business could continue to earn at their present income level and EVERY LAST DIME THAT EVERYONE EARNED WAS USED TO PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT, IT WOULD TAKE NEARLY FIVE YEARS TO PAY OFF THE CURRENT DEBT!!!!! Now, please explain to all of us “unbelievers in this administration” how obama’s programs are HELPING ANYONE.
        Enlighten us all. Please.

        • John

          Please do some research for your self and don’t believe the numbers that you are fed. Go to the treasury web page and check how much the nation debt went up by year. The debt in 2008, GWB’s last year, the debt went up 1.5 TRILLION. Obama’s first year the debt went up by 1.6 Trillion. Sounds like Obama is doing nothing more than spending like republican!

          • Strawberry Shortcake

            Spoken like a liberal, so because the “republicans did it” it makes it okay for the other party to as well…what’s that saying…ohhhh yeah,

            “two wrongs don’t make a right.”

            Good answer John.

          • John

            shortcakes – I never said two wrongs make a right. One of the biggest problems that I had with GWB and the republicans was the national debt!!
            However the conservative crowd never even raised an eyebrow at the debt, at least not until Obama became president. Now because Obama is spending as much as his republican predecessors did – conservatives are running around like chicken little. I am just pointing out the inconsistencies in conservative thought.
            The whole mess is the American voters fault! Who would vote for ANY politician that told the truth and said we have to raise taxes, cut benefits and quit playing the worlds policeman?

          • CJ

            John, get smart. The national debt is overrun by the Fed, which is not under the control of the president. They just print more money when they think spending needs stimulation.

          • Strawberry Shortcake

            Okay John, my point is this…the blame game is over. The problem collectively is government and it’s been going on for decades with very few “reprieves.” Yes, the people to a point. We haven’t been paying enough attention and have allowed many of our rights to be stolen right out from under our noses. Republicans and Democrats alike have all been playing the same game, some more sinisterly than others…or shall I say, “progressively” than others. None of that matters now. The system is corrupt and I don’t see much changing, sadly even in November because people are still pointing fingers back and forth at the opposite party…people like Ladybounty. NOTHING will get any better if we remain in that mindset, all we are doing is wasting time. Obama has done NOTHING for the good of this country and he doesn’t intend to because he’s there to finish the job. Like they said, they think this whole thing is a trojan horse, but the horse is right there in broad view. They DON’T care. They are doing THEIR will. If they manage to get away with this, I promise you, it won’t matter who started it.

        • Ray

          Let me remind you that the 2nd Bush enter into an undeclared war that siphoned billions out of the US Treasury, then in September ’08 with the market meltdown -Bush along with Hank Paulson approved $700 billions in bailout to Wall street and the auto industry.

          The new president comes into office with a trillion dollar debt that he did not create.

          For the people that’s out of work due to no fault of thier own maybe he shouldn’t have extended unemployment claims or maybe he shouldn’t have released the balance of the TARP money to the automakers and wall street.

          Oh, but GM looks like they may survive now – but with your way of thinking that’s not good. Just throw away the few remaining auto jobs left in the country.

          And let the Wall street bankers get thier fat bonuses for screwing the country.

      • Ellen

        Your IQ is showing honey!

      • MW

        The U.S. is not, I repeat is not a democracy!!!!! This nation is a constitutional republic. The difference between the two is analogous to day & night. It seems to me the Ladybounty is another wonderful product of our public school system. Her rhetoric & command of the written English language is truly indicative of her psuedo education.
        It’s highly unlikely that LB knows anything about the U.S.Constitution, too!

        • FreeAmericans

          Norman, your are correct. We need to get a backbone and stand up for America before it’s too late before we end up without any rights. The Constitution will no longer be valid. People stand together, fight this corruption. Take our country back. If everyone of us speaks up, calls Washington to remind them we have the power, we can stop this. If we don’t, they will continue to take total control of our lives forever.

  • Doc Sarvis

    Some American he is, wouldn’t fight for his country and then grows up to undermine it. I thought he said we have the best health care in the world. Anyway, fine for him. He can afford anything he wants. Most of us can’t afford the way health care is now. With this new bill if prices don’t come down at least they will not continue to spiral upward – and most of us will finally be covered – and without the fear of being kicked out of a plan.

    • George S. Saliga

      Excuse me but lets see what you are saying, you need to first find out what is causing the upsurge in health care/health insurance cost. Medicare and Medicade pays approx 43% of claim, who do you think pays the other 57%, that’s right we who are paying to the nose for our own health care, this government run health care at its finest! Medicade is free to the recipient.The stats show habitually abuse of the system called overutilization which dramatically increase cost to you and me. Medicare is not as bad as seniors have paid into the system and most have medicare supplement to cover what medicare dosen’t cover at a fraction of major medical insurance, this still causes overutilization. Obamacare the majority will have free coverage, and all those smart people that think the CBO numbers are anythig but smoke and mirrors are smoking gonja. Cost will be off the charts and the indication is here right now, you are seeing companies rising premiums in the lite of the auful fact that this obamacare might get passed? If you want to see the collapse of health care support obamacare, we need real health care reform one that will lower the cost. This is what we all need but when you have the President up their giving more campaign speeches filled with lies and real tear jurking stories but distorts the truth we are in trouble. Sadly I believe revolution maybe the only answer, my dad shed blood for this country I guess my time is coming.

      • DaveH

        You are wasting you time, George, trying to talk logically to Doc. He will just scan your comment and then give some off-the-wall unrelated response to it.
        But keep up the good work.

        • Jana

          Whoops, DaveH was right. Doc did exactly like you said he would. See comments below.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Companies are raising premiums now because they see that the golden years of sticking it to people and making them pay ever rising rates are about over. I for one, also think it is good to help those who can’t make it for some time on their own. Charity is a good thing and it is not happening in the private sector to match the need. We are the richest nation, or thereabouts. We should be able to help those in need even though, I know there is some overuse.

        • Warrior

          I gotta tell ya doc, blaming insurance companies for the cost of health care is akin to blaming gas stations for the cost of gas. You follow that farce of a leader and his useless cadre of elitist, who want to portray any American who disagrees as a Nazi, you keep goin.
          The attitude these communists have displayed towards the American people and business is repulsive and I’m attempting to be as civil as I can in response.

          • Doc Sarvis

            I neglected to include the pharmacutical companies with the insurance companies as the major factors in increased health care costs.

        • DaveH

          Well then, Doc, since your heart is so large why don’t you team up with your like-minded Liberal buddies and start your own Health Insurance companies and Healthcare Provider companies? You should have no problems since you Liberals are of Superior Intelligence. Then you could give your services away to all that are in need.
          Put your money where your mouth is. Anybody can talk.

          • Doc Sarvis

            I don’t have that much money.

        • George S. Saliga

          Sorry I am so late to reply, Doc, you need to look at what you are saying again. Don’t you understand that if insurance companies don’t make a profit they can’t pay your claims! Insurance companies can’t print money like the feds, and by the way your are only looking at a 3-4% profit for insurance companies. If health insurance companies are stealing from us they are not very good at it. Government is the problem not the answer. But what a great country we live in the ability to decent without being put in prison.

          • Norm

            George S. Saliga
            A 3% to 4% profit isn’t bad when all your head hunchos are making 2-30 million dollar a year paychecks, plus benies. More than 33% of all premiums never go to healthcare.

          • DaveH

            If you think the overhead for Insurance companies is bad, Norm, wait until the Government takes over.

        • Mona

          I think some of these people are sticking it to the Insurance companies. They keep going to doctors for every little thing and some live on medicines that cost over a thousand a month. A healthier life style could have kept them off so much medicine. Some of these people just use doctors so they can get attention. Doctors hand out medicines with side effects and people keep taking them. Then they take medicines for the side effects. My aunt told the doctor that he could write the prescriptions but she wouldn’t take them. He told her that most patients expect a prescription. I told a nurse that I didn’t want any prescriptions and she said I wouldn’t take them either. If the patients want them, I give it to them. Doctors have to have expensive insurance because stupid jurors will award people millions of dollars when they don’t deserve it. We have to make up the difference for illegals and people that just won’t buy insurance. These people would rather take vacations and let us pay for it. I’m sure there are lots more reasons we pay so much. If anyone thinks we won’t pay more in taxes for all of this, they are going to be surprised. Some doctors are going to quit. Less doctors and more patients waiting in line. I hope all you clueless liberals enjoy it. If a lot of the rich leave, someone will have to make up for the taxes they paid. Guess who?

          • Weelie Mom

            Thank you for saying something right. The issue comes down to ethics. NO One has any! I don’t normally read all these arguements but the theme in all of them is ethics. You just can’t blame one thing, or one person. People want something for nothing. Americans use to understand the concept of “working hard”. Insurance is no different. I have been disabled almost 24 yrs and I have seen it all. Everyone cheets everyone including Joe Blow on the street that calls 911 for a hang-nail. Someone is always going to try and abuse the system. This of course hurts everyone.

        • JB1248

          We are not the riches country any more! We are bankrupt!!!!!!

      • John

        First off I agree – don’t believe anything the government tells you – from EITHER party.

        However there is one part of the health care debate that no one seems to mention. YOU ALREADY pay for those indigents that have no health care. It is LAW that emergency rooms can turn no one away. So an illegal immigrant goes to the emergency room for a bad case of flu and the hospital has to swallow it. RIIIGHT… guess what, they pass it on to your insurance. I do not have any numbers but it sure seems that there would be a lot on money to be saved by having clinics to handle theses kind of situations.

        • Jana

          John, it doesn’t matter who we have to pay for right now, it is the fact that we DO NOT WANT GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER!
          This bill also has attached to it that our kids must get their college loans straight from the gov.’t too. This is no longer THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA we are quickly becoming the Communist States of America.
          When this happens they can then regulate who gets to goes to college, and what college they get to attend.

          There are better ideas out there than having the gov.’t take over health care. The gov.’t doesn’t have a good reputation for saving money or doing things economically, all it does is GROW.

    • DaveH
    • Joe H.

      Doc,
      Where did YOU serve???

      • http://www.NRA.com Stephaan

        Doc served with A.C.O.R.N. when he was doing the “community service” portion of his jail time.

        • Joe H.

          Stephaan,
          I think you nailed it!!!
          CARE TO ARGUE THE POINT DOC?????

          • Joe H.

            Doc,
            I’m still waiting for an answer!!!!! where did you serve?????

    • Onmywayout

      Has the cost of ANYTHING the gov. controls not spirals out of control? Anything at all? Please give me one example of an entitlement program with costs that haven’t spiraled out of control.

      • Jana

        Onmywayout,
        There just isn’t any.

        By the time they hire an administrator, and he has to have five assistants, and they each have to have three assistants and they all have to have a personal secretary, then they all have to have people under them, we already have spiraling costs that are out of control. All they have figured out right now is how much they estimate the HCB to cost, but they haven’t factored in the Gov.’t employees that its going to take to run these programs.

        Have they factored in the costs of the 12,000 IRS workers too? Hmmm, they are not going to be hired for fun and games, they are needed to levy more taxes ON US.

        • J C

          A standing army of tax collectors. Exactly what Jefferson advocated against.

    • http://Don'thaveone Sally

      Yeah Doc – everyone might be covered for what if you don’t have a Dr or hospital that will take you – what good is coverage.What good is coverage if you have to wait six months to get an appointment? I know first hand what the Canadian healthcare was like, and you just died if you had a bad disease like cancer that spread quickly. We all before this bill was passed had coverage one way or the other. Either you had insurance, medicare, or medicade to cover or you had the money to pay for services rendered which by the way you receive a 40% discount by paying cash. The poor that didn’t have Medicade, just went to the emergency room and got treated – it was that simple.

  • Sherwin Start

    Our Political System is in Total Failure!
    Like I have stated numerous times before the Office of the Presidentcy has FAR TOO MUCH Authority over EVERYTHING in this Country!
    We are in fact living in a “Socialized Dictatorship”!!
    Whoes to Blame for this,BOth Sides of the Aisle in BOTH the House and the Senate of The US Congress!Our Elected Representatives Have Lost Sight of the the Basic Principles that this Nation was Founded upon and in the Process Between them and the US Supreme Court Have Literally Nullified and rewritten their own version of this Countrys Constitution!
    On one Hand the White House is “DIRECTING” our Congress to do its Bidding-This is EXACTLY OPPOSITE Of the Mandates set forth In our Constuttion.”The Tail is Wagging the Dog”!!
    Second Our Country is Now for all intensive Purposes a “Socialist Country” instead a Democracy especially when one Party, The Democratic Majority Places a Virtual “Stranglehold ” around the Neck of the US Citizens!!
    No wonder People are leaving this country by the Millions and I predict the Mass Exodus will excellerate!!

  • Ladybounty

    I would pay Rush Limbaugh to leave the U.S.A! Perhaps then the GOP would STOP paying any attention to him. But you’ll never see it happen. Anyplace else in the world he would be considered exactly what he is…”A NOBODY” Everything is just entertainment and the bottom line is the almightly dollar with him. Why would he leave such a lucrative business here to go someplace where no one would listen to him? It’s pretty sad when prejudiced, lying, sensationalists like him can become millionaires and have so much influence on our way of government and officials. WAKE UP AMERICA!! before it is truly too late for the Republican party.
    In this uncertain, volatile world, why would ANYONE leave the safety and protection of the United States to basically set themselves up to be attacked someway, shape or form by leaving?
    I’m sooooooo sick and tired of the right-wing, extremist crazies and WISH that they would all leave but I’m sure that’s NEVER going happen. Most are just all mouth and talk like RUSH and no real action!!!

    • Nancy

      Rush is SOMEBODY every where. He is the MAN! Perhaps if more true conservitives listened to him and do what he says, we would not be in the mess we are in. And as far a getting rich at what he does, so what!! Hollywood gets rich for being for being trashy and no one says any thing about that. Let him be rich, he works for it.
      We don’t need a republican party, we need a real true CONSERVITIVE party. Some one who believes what the constitution says and stands firmly for it.

      • Ladybounty

        hmmmmmmmmm excuse me BUT Rush is an entertainer……NOT a politician! He does it ALL for the MONEY! He lies and manipulates the truth in hopes that some like you believe him and listen to him so that he can make MONEY. Otherwise….. I ask you……WHY wouldn’t he REALLY get out there in the middle of politics and REALLY do something to make a difference instead of just spouting off, like you on here….day after day after day? It’s the almightly dollar that he REALLY cares about….NOT you or this country really for that matter.
        OPEN YOUR EYES! WAKE UP! IF this president fails….. WE ALL FAIL.
        If we can’t get this country back on the right track….EVERYONE WILL SUFFER. This president needs to undo EVERYTHING that George W. Bush did……and fast! After almost a decade of you and those like you allowing Bush to almost destroy us…..who do you think has got to pay to fix this mess? ALL OF US HAVE TO PAY. You crazies just keep screaming because YOU don’t want to take responsibility for what YOU let happen. GET OVER YOURSELF and GET YOUR CRAP TOGETHER and DO SOMETHING TO HELP INSTEAD OF THIS! WOW

        • Jerry Mobley

          Ladybounty;
          obama has already failed, name me one thing that is better today then it was a year ago!!! Other then the bankers are much richer along with wall street, which I do not consider better.

          • Ladybounty

            Jerry.,…..Jerry…..Jerry……
            YOU need to get YOUR facts STRAIGHT! You can’t twist the truth ok?

            Bush orchestrated the Wall St. /Bank bailout…..with no rules and regulations….sooooo the bankers went crazy and bought themselves new airplanes and gave themselves HUGE bonuses with OUR MONEY!
            Obama had no choice but to come up with the second half of BUSH’S BAILOUT for Wall St….at least he made them get rid of the planes and stop the bonuses for a short time. WHY DO YOU CONTINUALLY BLAME THIS PRESIDENT FOR BUSH’S actions?
            It’s hard on here to have intelligent, thoughtful convos with those like you because you do not care about the TRUTH or the FACTS.
            Try and you may…..you cannot change what really happened.
            Goooooo look it up, Jerry.

            AS for what has gotten better… I don’t know where you live BUT around here things have gotten a little better. Do you really expect Obama to fix 8+ years of mess in 1 short year??? GET REAL and WAKE UP! You’re not only hurting yourself with your misguided mentality BUT you are hurting me and my kids and their kids too. The time has long come and gone to put the blame where it truly belongs….on George W. Bush and YES we will be feeling repercussions from his decisions and acts for a long…longgggggggggggg time.
            The more you and those like you don’t learn the facts and the truth and keep fighting this “mysterious” government” that caused all of this mess and all of a sudden has taken over everything……the longer it is going to take for us to recover…..don’t you see that?
            DEREGULATION….laws and rules that were put in place to protect us….our investments…..our economy……our life……being REMOVED are WHAT caused ALL OF THIS.
            Your mentality is one of the reasons WHY we keep repeating the same self-destructive behavior over and over and over again.
            Until those like you wake up…..we will never learn.

          • Joe H.

            bounty,
            you say things are better where you are. In what way? are your area schools better? Is your economy better? Are the jobs prospects better?
            If so, yours is one of VERY FEW that are!!! Most are worse and worse!!!

          • Jana

            bounty, You want to spout your hatred for common sense go ahead. You have to live in your hate filled world. So sad that you can’t see past the nose on your face. You wouldn’t know the truth if it hit you.

            You will be the first to complain (right along with the rest of us) if this Pres. succeeds as he is determined to raise our taxes and control your decisions on your own health.

            In this HCB there is a provision for hiring 12,000 more IRS agents. Now why do you suppose that will be? Not to give us refunds, but to make sure we all pay MORE TAXES.

        • loren

          Ladybounty, talk about getting your facts right, Wow, where do I start? You need to know that our government is a fraud. Understand the word fraud don’t you? We are controlled by the Fed Bank through the bank of international settlements in Switzerland. Ben Bernanke is the head of the fed bank here and is on the board of directors of the bank of international settlements as well. These banks do not answer to any governing body and can not be prosecuted. Our money is fiat and is worthless. We have to pay for the privilege of using this money with income tax. Everything you have ever purchased with this money belongs to the fed bank. You own NOTHING. If you bought a house you better look at your deed again and read where it says you are the tenant not the owner. Your whole world of reality is a con, a fraud, a hoax. You are being controlled on so many fronts it is hard to know where to begin with you. You are living one big lie. It is you who needs to get the facts right.

        • Claire

          Ladybounty–I voted for both Bushes. However, I cannot place the blame entirely on them. This economic mess started years ago and has steadily become worse with each administration that was voted into office. In a sense we have learned by trial and error. None of us know what a politician will do and become once they are elected. It is a crap shoot. The luck of the draw. Put them in a sack, shake it up, and they all come out alike.

          • Dude

            Exactly, if anything, Bush was too liberal (half-failure) and we all suffered as a result. Obama is a raging “progressive” ideologist, our suffering has just begun.

        • DaveH

          He lies and manipulates the truth? Maybe that’s where Obama learned it:
          http://www.sodahead.com/fun/obama-lies-and-broken-promises/blog-178999/

          • Jana

            DaveH, Obama has been lying for a long time, he is too accomplished at it.

        • Joe H.

          Bounty,
          For a nobody, he sure makes a lot of money doing it!!!!
          what about Sorass money???? What about Plousy’s money??? What about Bawny Fwanks money???? All politicians that spend more in one month than you make in five years, hell maybe ten years considering Plousy’s booze bill. At the taxpayers expense, I might add!!!!

        • Vicki

          Ladybounty, Impressive. Ad hominium attacks, proof by bald assertion, Yelling. you are a debate wizzard. Do you have any sustainable points?

      • Claire

        Yes, we do need a “True Conservative Party.” And as far as I am concerned, the true Conservative Party I would love to be a part of does not include people like Rush,etc. True Conservatives are/should be true only to the righteousness of American government, and to themselves. I will find out my own facts, do my own research, I will not listen to paid entertainers. I will not spend my money to see any of their so-called shows, etc.

        • Joe H.

          From Illinois???

          • Claire

            Joe H–Yes, from Illinois. I just about croaked when I saw that other post from someone with the same name as myself!!

    • Ellen

      ladybounty you are a poor sick misquided one!

    • Onmywayout

      U don’t really wish they would leave. Who would pay the bills?

    • Southside Tommy

      Ladybounty, you can not have it both ways. Either Bush was a drooling simpleton or a scheming,diabolical,evil genious. Oh, by the way, the deficit was shrinking until Pelosi and company took over congress. Money is the crack of the DEMOCRATS. As for the lies Bush told; he was merely repeating the WMD mantra of all of the relevant Dems,especially Ded Kennedy. Take your medication on a regular basis;the mind fog will clear! Or maybe you truly believe in the articulate idiot. Community organizer=communist agitater. As a Chicago ex-Dem I and we Chicagoans know that BHO’s mentor and the state senate seat he was elected to was held by Illinois’ only elected communist[Sen. Palmer] LOOK IT UP!

  • robert clarke

    Run baby run……no way. I’m not bailing out! If your any kind of an American you’ll stay and fight! If you run away we’ll be better off with out you!

    • Ladybounty

      Are you kidding?? The time for fighting was during the reign of terror of the George W. Bush administration! Where were YOU then??
      WHY didn’t YOU and those like YOU stop him from putting us all in this huge hole? I’m here to tell you that the time for fighting the government is over buddy. We ALL need to get behind this guy and TRY to pull this country out of the MESS together before it is truly too late for us and our kids. WHY you don’t see it is beyond me BUT PLEASE…..leave if you want. I’ll help you leave…..THAT would be much better than all this crazy business and blaming the wrong guy for all our problems and woes. People like YOU are what got this country in this mess to begin with. Denial….denial……denial…..is frightening!!

      • Cribster

        Liberals are sad/serious/angry and generally misreable. They are also prone to violence, judging by your posts you’re getting close!

      • Nancy

        Honey, this man can’t pull himself together, how in the world can he pull an entire country together?
        As for “Where was I” in the Bush years? Voting for Bush…

        • Joe H.

          Nancy,
          I just figured it out!!! bounty works for Obummer!!!! Or she just started her welfare!!! Of course things are better for HER!!!!

          • Jana

            JoeH, That makes sense.
            She asks where were we in the Bush years. I was writing letters and calling on a lot of things that I thought were wrong.
            I do think this woman works for Obama or is getting welfare, yep, ergo her name bounty.
            She is the blind leading the blind.

          • Joe H.

            Jana,
            with Dems that would be the blind leading the deaf!!!!!

      • mark

        Let’s not forget that the democrats have controlled congress since 2006

        • John

          let’s not forget the republicans controlled BOTH the senate and congress for 12 years with a republican president for 6 of those years.
          Lets not forget Reagan QUADRUPLED the national debt and Bush DOUBLED that!

          • Joe H.

            john,
            and let’s not forget that Obummer has spent more money than any sittin g president!!!!

          • John

            “john,
            and let’s not forget that Obummer has spent more money than any sittin g president!!!!”

            Yes he has – 1.5 trillion for GWB in 2008 and 1.6 trillion for Obama in 2009.

            Simple term you “might” be able to understand.
            GWB took a balanced budget and turned it into a 800 billion deficit.
            Obama took has only added 100 billion more to the deficit he inherited. So looking at it historically – Obama is 800% more fiscally conservative than Bush.
            Don’t believe my numbers do your own research PLEASE!
            http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

          • Joe H.

            Oh,I believe your numbers, sure I do. Let’s see, who was in control of the houses at that time? I just can’t seem to remember…. who was it/ No don’t tell me it’s right on the tip……… Oh yeah, the dems!!!!

      • Sully

        Obviously none of the posters here are students of history. Our country’s depression to a ‘welfare’ state began almost 100 years ago with Pres. Wilson. The welfare was extended by FDR and has continued to degrade our society ever since. We have become an ‘entitlement’ society expecting the governemnt to take care of us. Consequently, the uninformed and uneducated public is content to simply take the government ‘handouts’ and follow along in lock-step. Each president has done his own damage to the American Dream of prosperity by hard work. President Obama is simply speeding up the process toward total socialism where everyone is forced to depend upon the government for sustenance. Our only salvation is to impeach and vote out the socialists.

        • Jana

          Sully, you said it all and very well too.

      • Onmywayout

        I’m leaving. Thanks for the offer of help I’ll take u up on it. What r u willing to do? I didn’t vote for b.o., bush, or clinton (the man who forced banks to give loans to people who couldn’t afford them, while pushing for free trade which cost those people their jobs, and while allowing the dismanteling of “glass-steigle”. Oh yea…it’s bush’s fault). Whatever… u wanna let ur partisen views blind u from seeing the obviouse and lead to the loss of the country that gave u and the rest of us an incredible way of life for a veeeery long time then do. Meanwhile I’m moving on before that too becomes illegal. Please respond with the manner in which u wish to help. I could use someone to do some research and some paperwork as well. Whichever u choose is fine.

        • DaveH

          Don’t hold your breath OnMyWay, Liberals are all talk.
          They will promise you anything but deliver nothing.

      • Dude

        Are you being some sort of ironic…? If you think Obama is good for your kids you got another thing coming.. he’s not only bad for your kids, but your kid’s kids who have yet to be born.

  • John

    People should not be afraid of their Government; the Government should be afraid of their People.

    • Nancy

      YES, WE HIRE THEM AND WE PAY THEIR WAGES, AS UNWORTHY AS THEY ARE!! WE CAN FIRE THEM AND WE NEED TO DO SO. ALL OF THEM, THE BUNCH OF DUMB-DUMBS.
      THEY SEEM TO FORGET THAT THE MINUTE THEY GET HIRED.

      • http://www.americairemember,com angel-wanna-be

        NANCY, NAHHH, THESE POLITICIANS KNOW WHAT THEIR DOING AND THEY’RE PRETTY SMART__THEY CAMPAIGN ON ONE SET OF VALUES THE ONES, THEY THINK THE PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR, AND THEN DO A 360 AFTER THEY’RE ELECTED__NANNY NANNY FOO FOO POLITICS___FACE IT, YA CAN’T NOW AND NEVER COULD TRUST WASHINGTON, PERIOD!
        GOD BLESS AMERICA

    • Ellen

      Now we are talking!! The government SHOULD be afraid of the people. The people are their Employer, it is our money NOT theirs. Only I am scared of people like lady(whoever) thats REAL TROUBLE!

    • Dude

      (Thumbs up) Thomas Jefferson put it like this, “When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When people fear the government, there is tyranny.” I think he’s my favorite American historical figure.

  • Matt

    well, that would be a consideration, if worse comes to worse

  • Norm

    To rush:

    Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!!

    The medical system in Costa Rica is 100% government run by the way.

    • Barb

      Norm I’m going to phrase this so I don’t get into trouble. Why don’t you go to Hades? Good riddance by the way! This applies to Ladybounty as well
      you are one CRAZY broad, —- OOPS excuse my French!

      • Ladybounty

        Well I gotta consider the source with you , Barb.
        That’s not French…it’s typical, debasing, uncalled for… vulgarity. You and those like you have gotten very good at it..
        I laugh at you and your obvious ignorance. Everytime somebody with any sense disagrees with “a crazy” THIS type of name calling response is what they get.
        You and Rush should leave together……AND SOON! LOL

        • Norm

          Ladybounty
          Well said!

          • Joe H.

            Actually bounty, it’s not vulgarity at all. It means wide or SLANG for woman!!! Vulgar no —Slang yes!!!!

        • Barb

          My ignorance!?! HA! You are a joke! It’s people like you who make these blogs soooo much fun! You and Norm are a real hoot! If I weren’t so conservative I’d actually feel sorry for both of you but I am Very Conservative and alas, I don’t!

          • Ladybounty

            Oh don’t feel sorry for me!! I wouldn’t trade places with you and your “crazy” mentality for all of Rush’s money!
            So by your own words here…..you let your political affilliation control how you feel and act toward another human being and I’m the idiot???????!!!???? DUH ENOUGH SAID! have a great day!

          • http://www.secondamendmentfoundation.com Dartanian

            Barb;
            “Lady nut case” doesn’t want to trade places with anybody.
            She is very satisfied with her welfare check, and taxpayer funded public housing. Why would she want to trade all that for a real job in the real world?
            As long as she and the “abnormally Norm” can keep pumping out another illegitimate welfare baby every 9 months, they’re set for life.
            She kind of reminds me of the “octomom.

        • Ellen

          You fill the world with unkindness ladylove! Why are you so upset and misrable, and full of hate? Go out and plant a flower, you need to enjoy beauty. Your Words are poison.

          • Joe H.

            Ellen,
            ME cracking up!! Very well said!!!

          • Jana

            Ellen, too true.

          • DaveH

            Ellen, the answer can be seen in Teenagers. They are generally rebellious and angry towards their parents until they leave the house and have to pay their own way. Then magically, almost overnight, they become decent Human Beings.
            We could do the same for the Government Dependents. Cut them off the dole (that includes Government Employees) and watch them become respectful Humans once again.

  • Frank

    Leave the US (Run away) theres real courage…Anyone wanting to leave I say GO..no loss. One less undecided fool to get in the line of fire.

    • J C

      Hey Frank…here’s one of my favorites.

      “If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” ~ Samuel Adams.

    • Onmywayout

      Frank
      I haven’t voted for a pub or deamoncrat since Reagan left. I’ve been telling my conservative friends and any liberal with the capacity to listen and understand what I was saying [read, none] that the monopoly the two parties have on the system will eventually lead to it’s downfall. Now we are there and I did what I could to stop it. I fought my fight and lost. Leaving is just a way to cut my losses. I didn’t create this mess I didn’t vote for it and I don’t think my family should have to pay for it. However if it comes down to the kind of revolution people r talking about I’ll b right by ur side.
      That being said I just don’t c it happening. People like ladywelfare r so common. People who r too stupid or lazy to make it on their own. People with no desire to truely look at facts and make real informed decisions based on logic. Too many people who “work” for the gov or r recieving some other kind of welfare.
      I hear a lot of talk about revolution, but what about the first couple steps. Who’s talking about sweeping congress. Wouldn’t that b a good start? Aside from the tea party and a few other real patriots going to townhall meetings and other events I really don’t c a lot of positive action. The second slaughter and other dems started openly talking about subverting the will of the people we shoulda started the sweeping process. That should have been the last straw, but what happened?…… …… …… These “representatives” r openly talking about subverting the will of the people. I understand how someone like ladywelfare could miss that or not care, but it is the bedrock of everything great this country ever was and where r the conservatives shouting from the rooftops?
      Onmywayout is……….but I’ll b watching the news and I promise I’ll b back, and on the right side of the line of fire if (not when) if the time comes.

  • Kay

    We need to stay and fight, numbers count! This is our country and we don’t want to give it up to those who don’t like it and want to turn us into a 3rd rate nation. Let’s take all of those up for election in Nov. out of office. The vote is ours and they can’t take that away from us….or can they? They may try that down the road so let’s do it soon.

  • Ladybounty

    WOW from reading some of the b.s. written on here…..all I can say is no wonder we’re all in the mess that we are in.
    All of you “crazies” should be shipped off to China as far as I’m concerned. WE don’t NEED you, your twisted logic or even your tax money. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • Norm

      Ladybounty
      You “aint” no lady. Your a right wing ding.

    • Ellen

      ladybounty YOU…GOOOOoooooooooo and do not stop leaving!!

    • loren

      Even if you are right in this one assessment, you are not going to escape what is going to happen to you when this all comes down. The patriot act, homeland security, the military commission act of 2006. You need to understand some of these things if you are going to have anything intelligent to say.

    • J C

      LB Who’s “we”…you got a mouse in your pocket?

  • Anne

    We can learn From men such as these who pretend to lead us but are only arm chair Patriots who will run and hide as cowards..
    Call out to those in the media who will lick the boots of thier masters.. They care not about Liberty except if it lines their pocketbooks!

    Where have all the real men gone?

    But for those who prefer the easy path of compliance, you may continue in your complicity — until total compliance with an oppressive, intrusive beast government is the only option you have left. Under absolute tyranny, non-compliance is not an option.

    If ye love wealth better than liberty, the

    tranquility of servitude better than the
    animating contest of freedom, go home from
    us in peace. We ask not your counsels or
    arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which
    feed you. May your chains set lightly upon
    you, and may posterity forget that ye were
    our countrymen.”
    Samuel Adams, speech at the Philadelphia State House, August 1, 1776.

  • DAVE PHILLIPS in Parowan, UT

    BEFORE THE “mass exodus” to COSTA RICO as some of my friends have done or are considering, the federal government down there is embroiled in a drug battle similar to that being fought in Mexico.

    An alternative is to CHANGE STATES = I left CA for UT last year, after the U.S. Veterans Administration “stopped paying me” as a homeless outreach worker in West Los Angeles hospital – then – two U.S. Postal Service workers in Tehachapi, CA (East Kern County) gave away two months of my personal / business mail to an admitted “unauthorized person”!

    The V.A. owes me (a) BACK WAGES; (b) payment for 575 unpaid overtime hours; and (c) damages for “wrongfuyl termination”!

    The Post Office debacle took about eight (8) months of “identity theft” issues to resolve with an VERY UN-COOPERATIVE UNION BANK of CA.

    With a private investigator [P.I.] helping “a fellow military war veteran” – for the price of one cup of coffee in payment – “Soft computer searches” using my bank ATM card traced the IDENTITY THEFT PERPETRATOR to Provo, UT near the Brigham Young University [BYU] campus!

    Maybe a student there!!! WE HAD HIS ADDRESS, LOCAL PHONE NUMBER(s) and the five (5) servers being used for his computer I-D theft!

    The CALIFORNIA BANK failed to cooperate – - since “[they] were not harmed” BY MY IDENTITY THEFT ADMITTED – - per their statement.

    Then LOCAL [CA or UT] LAW ENFORCEMENT refused to prosecute – since “the chain of evidence was broken” by using a P.I. of my selection — herefore a D-A could not accept any evidence derived, outside D.A. ‘direct control’ == so two states COULD NOT PROSECUTE the IDENTIFIED PERPETRATOR in Utah near the BYU campus!

    WHOSE “civil rights” were being protected here?

    CERTAINLY NOT MINE!!

    • Norm

      DAVE PHILLIPS in Parowan, UT

      ….The V.A. owes me (a) BACK WAGES; (b) payment for 575 unpaid overtime hours; and (c) damages for “wrongfuyl termination”!

      You like that good old gravey train! Byte the hand that feeds you. Maybe the Mormons will give you a handout.

      • Onmywayout

        Maybe I read this wrong. R u calling the v.a. a gravy train and by way of implication accusing him of sucking off the trough like so many “democrats”?

        • Norm

          Onmywayout
          I don’t begrudge the VA. They helped to pay for my college costs. But it is a government program. If your a right wing ding, that’s got to bother you.

          • Onmywayout

            I’m just saying that the money the va gives out is well earned, and therefore should not be considered a handout. The way u said it made it sound like u were equating it to things like: “free” med care, a gov “job”, or any of those other welfare programs where people don’t earn what they recieve. I assume since u served u know what I mean. So I guess I’m only questioning ur verbiage.
            Good luck

        • Joe H.

          abnormal,
          Have you ever stopped to consider that he could be partially or fully disabled??? If he is, he has earned that money better than ANY money you EVER earned!! So now you can take the crowbar and try to pry your big foot out of your mouth!!!

      • DAVE PHILLIPS in Parowan, UT

        NORM – I AM ANGLICAN – not Mormon – IF YOU ‘MUST KNOW’!

        FURTHER = I served the US Air FOrce “honorably!!” as a commissioned officer 1962 – 1978 including overseas service on Okinawa, during the LBJ build-up after November, 1964 elections.!

        As for your il-timed, snide “biting hand that feeds you” comment — ALL VIETNAM WAR veterans doing homeless outreach for the VA in West Los Angeles were carried “off-the-books” as FEE BASIS WORKERS.

        THEREFORE, when applying for CA unemployment benefits “there were NO RECORDS” of any of our employment histories with that West LA V-A! A “class action” may soon follow.

        THE V-A in West LA also failed to file with the IRS, SSA and State of CA all required quarterly earnings statements on withholding.

        AS A RESULT = NUMEROUS, multi-agency US and CA government investigations — including many Congressional and several Senatorial — as in process as this reply is posted to your ill-informed comment above!

        SUGGEST NEXT TIME = Engage brain before entering knee-jerk response!

    • Ferrosynthesis

      If we had a progressive government, you would have been protected. The corporation dominated right, however, will never protect you, only the banks.

      • Joe H.

        Ferro,
        you seem to miss the fact that he was harmed by GOVERNMENT offices under OBUMMER!!!!!!

      • Onmywayout

        The bigger point. He was harmed by govt. offices period. It’s funny how even most libs say that Washington is the problem then turn around and say we need to giv them more power. I’m convinced I’ll understand woman before liberals.

        • DaveH

          Let me explain it to you OnMyWay. They want your money. Period. That’s all there is to understand.

          • J C

            And by way of securing your money…they are securing your liberty as well.

        • Jana

          Now, Onmywayout, women are not hard to understand. Really they aren’t. Just ask any woman.

          • DAVE PHILLIPS in Parowan, UT

            TO “ALL THE ABOVE” in your attempts – honestly – to be helpful in ascertaining cause of status quo!

            During 1980 and following, when Mister Obama was ONLY age 15(!) at time of Ronald W. Reagan’s First Presidential term = REAGAN offered a “siren call” to unleash the vast private sector – by getting the onus of both Federal and State Government regulations off citizens’ backs!

            At the time, most supported him in that goal.

            BUT OVER TIME, the inertia of Federal and State governments DESTROYED “the safety-nets” in place “to protect CITIZENS FROM our GOVERNMENTS”!

            THAT’s “the REAL mess” which Mister Obama inherited from many prior Democrat and Republican presidential administrations – and both parties’ control of both houses of Congress.

  • ACL

    Run away like some gutless wonders? What are you smoking? I don’t care to hear that crap, this country belongs to us not the super Morons who are trying to take it away. That’s right, I said “Trying”. You want to let it happen, then don’t fight in anyway but if you want this back again, then prepare to commit to fighting for what is yours. I would rather it be bloodless, but if not—oh well

    • Ferrosynthesis

      Promoting the violent overthrow of the American government. That’s treason!

      • DaveH

        Another Hyperbolic Liberal speaks.
        What a doofus.

      • DAVE PHILLIPS in Parowan, UT

        “FERRO…”

        ALL legal or naturalized U. S. citizens who care to WIELD THEIR AWESOME POWER AT THE BALLOT BOXES – by showing up on Election Days – is not TREASON!

        WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU(!) VOTED?

        DO YOU HAVE A VOTING FRANCHISE – and ARE YOU “currently registered” with your County of legal residence?

        HOW LONG AGO did you start voting, as legally eligible?

  • Norm

    Rush’s new medical choice. It is an improvement.
    http://www.costarica.com/retirement/cost-of-living/health-care/

    • Norm

      Costa Rica 101. With Rush’s estimitated 30 mil/year income, I’m surprised he’s concerned with healthcare costs in the first place.

      http://www.vivacostarica.com/costa-rica-information.html

      • DAVE PHILLIPS in Parowan, UT

        NORM -

        MANY – far too many – friends of mine are FED UP with the direction taken by BOTH major political parties — FOR TOO LONG — and are simply “getting out of Dodge City”!

        COSTA RICA is the destination of choice for most of them, sight unseen!

  • http://railrider@northstate.net Nancy

    some people wanted change and now they got or is getting change I did not vote for bomba now the people that did not vote for him will have to suffer too along with all the other junk that he imposes on us we all need to stop paying taxes along with the companies if every one stood together we could do it and get all the funny people out becasue God did not put adam and stever or lucy and sissy together he put Adam and Eve together

    • Norm

      Nancy
      How are people going to suffer? Is paying less for better insurance care going to make us suffer?
      Put down your bible, turn off hate radio, and get the truth for a change.

      • Frank

        Norm,
        If you believe that socialized (nationalized) medicine is going to be better, I’m not sure where you are getting your info. Not trashing your belief here, just doubting the sources you are getting your info from.
        If you are getting it from the politicians-ANY politicians I assure you that it is not accurate information. Not saying THEY are lying but their sources are skewed…any time a private industry supplies goods to the US govt it ALWAYS costs more. I know I SAW the markup on prices for 20 years I was in the Military. With the Govt now being the buyer costs are guaranteed to increase. Plus MANY GOVT policies that never existed in the private medical “world” will cost millions to implement for the new “govt employees”.
        Health care quality will ultimately rest with the good Doctors and Nurses, however they will have restrictions and their available time will now be reduced.
        Its simple math that when you take a medical system that is handling say-100 million and you now put another 200 million into that same system that something has to give.

        • DaveH

          Frank,
          Don’t confuse Norm with simple math.

          • Jana

            Nor facts, or truth.

          • Norm

            DaveH
            I’ll show you my college calc. and advanced math grades if you’ll show me yours.

      • http://www.americairemember,com angel-wanna-be

        NORM, MAN ‘O’ MAN, YOU SURE AS HELL MUST NOT GET OUT MUCH OR YOU SPEND TOO MUCH TIME MESS N-BC OR CNN—YOU REALLY BELIEVE THE CRAP BAMBI’S SAYS HUH?___???

        • Norm

          angel-wanna-be
          I’ve worked in the for profit private sector all of my working life. I’ve been in high enough positions to see how the drill works. The name of the game is to make as much money as you possibly can without causing problems that will hurt your reputation or in any way
          ruin your ability to compete. Many “competions” are more like “share the spoils” however. There is nothing wrong with this, it’s the way the game is played.
          The point is private companys are, by necessity, ruthless. Nice guys don’t surive.
          We can’t base our healthcare on unbridled greed. We have been doing it for years and it is a failure.

          • DaveH

            Which of these 3 will kill us quickest? Lack of Food, Lack of Shelter, or Lack of Healthcare?

          • Vicki

            lack of shelter

          • Joe H.

            Vicki,
            I think in most parts of the U.S. that would be food!!!! In winter time in the north, yes exposure would kill you faster. but in the more moderate climes as in Southern texas or Fla(southern b4 eyes takes on) you could live right on the beach!!! When I was just out of college, I went to Tennesee on a job offer and I spent two months sleeping in a tent type lean to –by choice. I fared quite well. had I not had food for those two months, I would now not be posting to you!!!

          • Vicki

            The amusing problem with the question is that as lawyers say “it depends”

            Lack of healthcare will kill you quickest if the care you need is say a heart attack.

            Lack of food will kill you quickest if you are in good health and living on a desert island. (Or if all the grocery stores can’t get food shipped in. Think Hurricane)

            Lack of shelter will kill you quickest if you are in bad weather (flood, hurricane, snow storm etc :) Note shelter includes protection from carnivores should you happen to be where there are lions and tigers and bears (” “)

            Since the OP did not specify I chose the one thing that most people would die quickest from in general. You could argue that most people die from lack of healthcare (that heart attack example above) however we are talking about general healthcare and not emergency medicine (There’s that “it depends” problem again :)

            As a side note emergency health care is already provided quite well in the US and probably other countries.

        • DAVE PHILLIPS in Parowan, UT

          “ANGEL …”

          DITTO! ;-)

      • loren

        Norm you don’t know from truth if it sat on your head. I bet you failed in history class didn’t you. Be honest, you don’t really care about any of this do you? You just want to blow smoke up ever ones ass don’t you?

        • Norm

          loren
          And you would rather play circle jerk. It easy to spout out anything if nobody challanges you.

          • Joe H.

            hey normy,
            HR 956!!!! checked yet???

      • Onmywayout

        norm
        it always amazes me how quick u libs r to call someone a “gun toting bible thumper” with indignation, or a “typical racist southern moron”, or how quick u r to toss aside an apposing point of view simply because it comes from someone who is from the south, or Christian. Meanwhile u spend half ur time accusing us of being biggots.
        What exactly does biggot mean to u? Does the definition somehow render u and ur illk innocent by virtue of being the first to make the accusation while losing an arguement?
        A biggot is a biggot norm. Before u accuse her of listening to hate speech maybe u should stop writing it. U have no idea what she listens to. U made an assumption based on ur biggotry. What’s more u admitted it to all of us conservatives reading this blog. The libs won’t think u did of course, but if u wish to sway opinion…

  • http://Hubpages.com Ralph Deeds

    It would be great if Rush, Glenn and all the Tea Partiers left the country!

    • Barb

      I bet you would just love that wouldn’t you? Well guess what, just like with all the rest of your drug induced dreams, IT AIN’T GONNA HAPPEN! The war is on if Obama pushes that piece of crap through and it will be The People of this great country, the Tea Partiers, the Patriots, the Conservatives, the Libertarians the true Americans, including, Rush, Glenn, Sean, Laura, et al who will take this country back in any way we have to. So maybe you should be checking the flight schedules!

      • Ladybounty

        Strong words…..albeit misguided!
        As usual with you “crazies” you’re a day late and a dollar short! Where the hell were you for the past decade when you SHOULD HAVE been fighting and taking back the country?? When you should have been standing up to Bush, Cheney, Rice, and those that almost destroyed the U.S.A??
        Why weren’t you fighting then? Why weren’t you stopping Washington
        from trompling our Constitution, allowing us to be attacked….did everyone forget that 9/11 happened on Bush’s watch? and from running our economy into the dumper because Bush let his Wall St. bankers do whatever they wanted. If I had done what Bush had done I’d be in prison….bottom line. WAKE UP before it’s too late!

        • Barb

          You laugh now but when this is all finished and we have won in more ways than one, we’ll see who is laughing then! We still have the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, GOD, and the Majority of this country on OUR side. We will prevail, the USA is and always will be the greatest FREE Country Under God and Soros, Obama, Pelosi, Reid and all the rest of you will soon figure that out! Like I have said before Ladybounty (I wonder how much you sell for? “Bounty” means payment after all!) you can call us any name you like, Sticks and stones may hurt our bones but names will never hurt us!That’s something that is maybe on your level.

          • John

            It would be easier in a dictatorship, just as long as I’m, the dictator.- George W. Bush

            I’m the decider- George W. Bush

            The Constitution is just a God damned piece of paper – George W. Bush

          • Joe H.

            Barb,
            she doesn’t need to sell, she’s on welfare and we’re all already “paying” her!!!!

        • http://personalliberty.com Stillfree

          You keep saying that Bush’s policies ran this country into finacial trouble. Check your facts. It was Clinton’s policy changes that “forced” the banking system to drastically lower the requirements to secure a mortgage in order to enable more people to own their own home. When the liberals got control of the House in ’06 they forced even lower standards for mortgage approval. That’s what caused the failure of the financial system!

          • John

            absolutely correct, however as most conservatives like to point out, it is the CONGRESS that makes laws. Clinton did sign reform into law but it was the republican congress and senate that sent him the bill to either sign or veto. Clinton being the good CONSERVATIVE that he was, signed it into law.

          • Joe H.

            john,
            Thanks!!! I needed a good laugh today!!! CLINTOON CONSERVATIVE???? He was about as conservative as Obummer!!!! He even supports Obummer!! Are you suckin’ on a pipe????

          • John

            Joe consider this,

            Conservatives claimed that democrats were soft on drugs. Clinton out did all of his predecessors on the war on drugs he even increased the size of police forces across the country.

            Conservatives always supported and pushed for free trade – Clinton passed the most comprehensive free trade package ever introduced.

            Conservatives always “claimed” to be the fiscally conservative party – Clinton was the only president in 40 years to make a principal payment against the national debt.

            Conservatives have always been for deregulation and Clinton signed a Conservative piece of legislation that deregulated banks into law.

            I would argue that Clinton was the best CONSERVATIVE president that we have ever had.

          • Joe H.

            YUP!!! SUCKIN ONH A PIPE!!!!!

          • John

            “YUP!!! SUCKIN ONH A PIPE!!!!!”

            Typical brain-dead conservative response when shown wrong……

          • http://www.NRA.com Stephaan

            John;
            Clintoon paid that debt down by STEALING MONEY FROM THE SOCIAL SECURITY TRUST FUND! It was never paid back, and never will be. He stole that money from you and I, and every other working American who paid in to the s.s. fund.

            Is that your idea of a Clinton accomplishment? Is that how you would do business? That is no different than kiting checks! Eventually the house of cards falls.

            That is tantamount to you “stealing” from your grandmother, to pay off your mother in law. How ignorant is that?

        • loren

          Hey if you think Bush almost destroyed this country, I guarantee Obama will finish the job.

        • Dude

          You are clearly the product of too much media exposure. You might try thinking for yourself for a CHANGE. I HOPE you do.

      • Jana

        Barb, AMEN!!!

    • Ferrosynthesis

      No, they can stay, we need something to keep us laughing.

    • http://www.americairemember,com angel-wanna-be

      RALPH,_ OH, YOU MUST BE PART OF THE TEA AND KRUMPETS CREW, THAT SIT HAPPILY BACK SIPPING TEA AND KRUMPETS, WHILE WATCHING THE WORLD GO BY___TISK, TISK!

  • http://www.sqearl,com Sq Earl

    If you are going to quote “Rush” at least get it right you dumb SOB.

  • Star

    Everyone is worried about this bill and the taxes being levied on them in illegal ways by DC. Yes, we may go to other countries to live, I have checked this out myself.
    Their are USA doctors building clinics in other countries and they plan to move if the bill passes. What the general public does not understand is that well over 50% of the doctors will retire if this bill passes, many others will change their careers. Have you read the bill? It does “pay all doctors the same wage”, which is based on a family practice income. People this doesn’t cover the malpractice insurance for many of our specialists. You may need to go to another country just to get health care.
    They say that we’ll use our “ancillary health care workers”. Guess what over 60% or our nurses and PAs are also retirement age.
    The only solution is to defeat the bill and the people in DC. If we fail on that, get yourself a very healthy life style. There are provisions in the Cap and “Tax” Trade bill that is next on the agenda that will shock you. They leaked out some of it, if you are overweight you give off more CO2, use more gasoline, and eat more which adds to the pollution of the earth. Guess what, they put in computers to make your medical history available “wherever you go in the USA” or is it to have access to your files.
    Please wake up and read these bills. They are inter-related and will control your life or the end of it.
    There are other countries to move to that do not control your life as much, are less expesive to live there, and you leave your family and friends here. There are emotional costs associated with such a move. Some countries take only 2 weeks to become a citizen, some you must prove a certain level of assets that you will move to their banks. Other countries do not have welfare, you must support yourself, thus the proof of assets. Rules vary between the many countries.

  • THE CLASS HISTORIAN

    IN 1972, THE PHILIPPINE PRESIDENT DECLARED MARTIAL LAW AND SET UP A MILITARY DICTATORSHIP. ‘TWAS A BENIGN FORM OF GOVERNANCE BUT ABUSES AND CORRUPTION REARED ITS UGLY HEAD AND THE PEOPLE PROTESTED. THOUSANDS DISAPPEARED WITHOUT A TRACE AND THOUSANDS MORE WERE IMPRISONED AND TORTURED. THE PHILIPPINES BECAME A NATION OF 60 MILLION COWARDS UNDER THE THUMB OF ONE SON OF A BITCH.
    IN 1986, GOD PEACEFULLY INTERVENED AND THE DICTATOR WAS SENT PACKING TO HAWAII WITH HIS TAIL BETWEEN HIS LEGS.
    IRONICALLY, TODAY, ANOTHER S.O.B. FROM HAWAII WOULD ALSO LIKE TO DO THE “MONKEY SEE, MONKEY DO” ROUTINE TO THE U.S. IRONICALLY ALSO, GOD WON’T INTERVENE ANYMORE BECAUSE THE U.S. IS NOW UNDER THE DOMAIN OF THE RELIGION OF PEACE. HMMMMM. WE SURE DO LIVE IN INTERESTING TIMES !!!!!!!

  • http://MSNwebtv John

    I would move to Jerusalem…for the King of the Jews will rule planet Earth there for 1000 years And, we won’t need any kind of Health insurance.

    • Ellen

      John, what are you doing to live for the King of the Jews? True you will not need healthcare and you would be out of this mess.

  • Charles David

    Strawberry Shortcake, I like your clear thoughts on the matter and I hope that you are prepared for what may come after the Nov 2010 elections. I sincerely hope that the elections can at least slow down this socialist takeover, because if it doesn’t, we may face a very unpleasant consequence.

    Let me remind everyone in this discussion. The USA was founded to be DIFFERENT. That difference is what has made the country grow and prosper and made it the greatest place in the world to live. You don’t see people rushing to get OUT of the USA, instead they want to come here so bad that many are doing it illegally. Have you asked yourselves why they are not rushing to other countries? Now to those of you who want these “fundamental changes” that the President and his ilk are proposing–why waste your time, your efforts, and your lifes trying to change a country that was founded to be DIFFERENT? There is an entire continent of countries that already have the programs that you want in place and they are full of people who agree with you–it is called EUROPE. Why don’t you just move there, live the way that you want and relax? As you can see, more than 50% of the inhabitants of the USA want it to remain the way it was founded. We like our DIFFERENCE–if you don’t, you should be the ones to leave.

    One last thought. If the liberals would read a little bit of history and look at what is happening in the world RIGHT NOW, they would see that liberalsism,progressivism, and socialism DO NOT WORK. Practically every country in Europe is having serious financial proglems because of their socialistic policies (and the USA is in trouble too for the same reason). No where in the world has socialism, marxism, liberalism, or communism worked. Albert Eistein said that “Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result is insanity”. So my question to you liberals is–What is it that you are going to do differently that will make your brand of socialism work? Are you smarter than the Russians, the Italians, the Greeks,the other Europenas?

    • KCD

      “instead they want to come here so bad that many are doing it illegally.” said Charles David…

      Yes, definitely – they are rushing here ….. Especially if this bill passes, the illegal immigrants will also get full benefits paid by us … what a deal – I’d come here too if I had lived elsewhere and the government there was not funding my health insurance like WE are about to be forced to do…

      • http://www.americairemember,com angel-wanna-be

        KCD, YEAH, the illegals are coming in, in droves, and the The Democrats are need their votes come November!

    • Ellen

      Charles David, yes I agree with you!
      You liberals want to make us over? It doesn’t work in a marrage and it doesn’t work HERE. We work TOGETHER for the USA and freedom. If the liberals do not like it, please pick your one way ticket up and enjoy Europe or where ever!

    • DaveH

      Charles,
      Europe doesn’t want them.

    • Dude

      Thank you Charles. You have just said what I wanted to say and very eloquently and concisely. EVERYONE HERE SHOULD READ YOUR POSTING! I’ve been told to leave for not supporting Obamacare and I always ask, “Why, because I love the uniqueness of America and refuse to just let it slip away?” Just like Americans (half of them anyways) to think they can do anything better than everyone else, except when it comes to “socialism” NO ONE EVER WINS!

  • Charles David

    Sorry for my spelling errors–I thought I proof read better than that.

  • John Galt

    Both political parties have been traveling the same path, only at different speeds. Most people appear to focus on what government will do “for” them, and are willingly allowing government to assume what should be their individual responsibilities. While the truly wealthy will continue to remain so, the upper middle class, and lower middle class will each find their life styles diminish, creating a much larger dependent class. Businesses may find it more profitable to become foreign based, reducing their taxes, and payroll costs. I left over a dozen years ago expecting something like what is happening now to occur. The smart person puts self preservation first. How long will it be before you can no longer vote with your feet? Always have a plan “B”, and a plan “C”,”D”, etc.

    • Charles David

      John, your first sentence is right on the money and your last sentence is good advice.

  • Joan Stellrecht

    In the “Rush” article someone states we have survived the first year of the Obama administration without much damage. I strongly disagree. We have 10% unemployment, we have a deficit like we have never seen before, our judicial system is on the brink and 5 states are now nearly or are bankrupt and the congress is out of control. I beg to differ with the writer and feel we are being strangled slowly as a democratic nation. We should bring our troops home from Afghanistan and the rest of the world and start preparing for civil war at home against a regime.

    • Marc

      hmmmmm…..and you think all of these problems started within the past year…..?

    • Joe H.

      Joan,
      The actuall rate is more like 18 to 20% that’s just the ones that haven’t exhausted their benefits, and yes, there are some that don’t have benefits even with the extension!!!!

  • General

    I’m staying! GOD, GUNS AND GUTS are what made us free the first time and it’s looking like we’ll have to do it again!

    • http://www.americairemember,com angel-wanna-be

      ANOTHER REVOLUTION IS COMING!

    • Barb

      AMEN!

    • Charles David

      General, I’m with you. I’m not looking forward to it, but if it comes I’ll be doing my best.

      • Ellen

        Charles David and General, Me too.

      • Vicki

        3 boxes to use before we are forced by circumstance to open the last. Pray it never happens, keep the last one in VERY good condition, and keep using the first 3.

    • Dude

      Good thing you have me on your side. I’m no liberal [offensive word removed]! Sadly if it comes to civil unrest or worse, too many people (on both sides) won’t even know what they’re fighting for.

  • Marc

    Guess he will go for the government-run healthcare….
    http://www.costarica.com/retirement/cost-of-living/health-care/

    “Costa Rica’s public health insurance system, commonly known as the Caja, is available country-wide to all citizens and legal residents.” from an article posted on his site…..guess he would have to move there…

  • http://www.americairemember,com angel-wanna-be

    Obama’s driving what’s left of the private sector out and all possible jobs with them__why would people stay to pursue a dream of owning their own company, only to pay more than half of their hard earned money to the Government__Driving the Private Sector under, is and Ace of Spades to the Liberals__Bigger Government, more control and regulation of the people__higher taxes and now the possibility of owning 1/6 more of the economy__Sadly, America is not the America I remember anymore!

  • Bob J

    Do us all a favor and leave now.

  • Laura Schlegel

    Sustainable social infrastructure (yes, paid by taxes) has to exist in balance with fair (yes, regulation for protection) markets. Laissez Faire policies, corruption and giving too much power to the corporatocracy, have eroded our economy over the past few decades. President Obama inherited a mess and has asked all of
    US, Rep. & Dems & Ind, experts, professionals to citizens to work with him w/sound debate towards solutions to our complex challenges. This is called democracy, the opposite of a Communist Dictatorship.
    Those of you that don’t believe in being part of the process of functioning government are part of the problem. Please don’t exploit places like Costa Rica, go to Haiti or Somalia.
    History has proven that low info, lies, ill will and hate mongering is dangerous to any society. And profiteering from these tactics is downright shameful. Encourage sound debate for humane solutions in your home, community and global outreach.

    • Jana

      The only problem is Laura, Obama won’t work with us. He wants to dictate to us. That is dangerous.

  • Frank

    Believe me, its not that I want a country where people cannot get affordable health care. Health care starts with living healthy and MANY Americans DO NOT live a health lifestyle. My Gripe is why is it fair for my tax dollars to go to a system that will allow anyone to get health care that unhealthy conditions may very well be self induced in many cases. Private health care doesnt “screen” that, but at least if you “play” your the one who is going to “pay”.

    On Top of that those that support the idea of “free” are truely confused, NOTHING is FREE. Even Freedom isnt Free…

    • Charles David

      The proposed healthcare reform is about as opposite from what is needed as anything can get–but that was the plan in the first place.
      The “evil” insurance companies are not the fault. The main things driving rising costs are (1) New technologies (they are expensive), (2) frivolous lawsuits (everyone wants to be an instant millionaire), (3) unneccessary advertising by pharmaceuticals, (3) State and federal mandated coverages (this is why a policy sold in New York can’t be sold in Texas. Remove these obstacles and cost would go down about 50%.

  • Freedom

    Anyone that is remotely for socialism, marxism and communism needs to pack their bags and get the hell off American Soil. They are not smart enough to know the the Democratic party is the idiotic extreme
    of Hilters and Mussolini’s Europe – get an education, study history, your stupidity and ignorance is the downfall of this great nation.

    • George S. Saliga

      Freedom, could not of said it any better! I am not leaving I will fight to the death if I have to. We need to keep our heads and educate ourself, be informed with accurate information. When I read what some you write I feel the anger but you have channel that anger and use your head to defeat that which is against freedom. It is so sad that so many can’t see they are destroying the greatest asset we have as Americans FREEDOM! Try writing some of this stuff in Russia, they will be at your door before you sign out! Let us not act like the liberals and attack the messinger but attack the message! God Bless America!

  • Mark

    There is only one way to stop this obamanation b.s. Eliminate the problem, terminate the disease. One shot, One kill, at a time.

    • Charles David

      Wouldn’t it be better to expose him as a fraud (no birth certificate) or find grounds to impeach him? I don’t want to make him a martyr. Personally, I would like to see a lot of those crooks spend the rest of their lives in prison.

      • Pat R

        Charles:
        Obama should be impeached for treason!
        Any bills he signed into law, would then be null and void!

        Members of Congress need to grow some balls and do this NOW!

      • Ellen

        Again, Right on! Charles David you make me feel better every time I read a new comment.

      • Jana

        Charles David, I think he IS being exposed, finally. People are waking up and seeing the truth of this evil that is trying to become our dictator.

    • James D.

      Mark: Your words imply that you might consider assinating the President, which is a Federal offense and punishable as a felony with a very long prision sentence. I suggest that you refrain from public issued and reviewable discussion along those lines.

    • Claire

      Mark–Good grief. What a horrible thing to say. I do not want any President to be harmed, I don’t care who he/she is. There are more civil ways to take care of the matter–impeach or vote them out. All it takes is one nut to read a post like yours and act on it. Watch what you say, sometimes it comes back to haunt you.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Prepper-in-chief

    Boy, you can really pick out the deranged socialists in this conversation. I’ll stay and fight for my country, but I have the back-up plan to do the Australia move if it really gets out of hand, if the Obama brown shirts don’t kill me first. It’s almost time for the second Revolution, and the wisest thing to do is prepare for it.
    If we have to move to another country, it won’t be long before the libs screw this one up so bad that it’ll be easy to take it away from them and straighten it back into the constitutional republic it’s meant to be.
    ALL TRUE AMERICANS NEED TO PREPARE NOW. It’s going to be a long and ugly fight.

    • Joe H.

      Prepper,
      hope you have a skill they need!!! They won’t let you live there unless there is a need for your particular skill!!! They aren’t the U.S. where they just open the border and let em in!!!!

  • http://www.crazytrike.com Doug Foote

    Re-read our founding documents, especially the “Declaration of Independence”

    It is our duty as citizens to remove an oppresive government!

    We as Americans have done so peacefully by voting for our representatives since our founding with the exception of the Civil War.

    When over 53% of us do not want this mess of “health care reform”, our elected representatives “should” be listening. Come November, they will hear us loud and clear!

    We have to remember, we do not live in a “democracy” (another term “mob rule”), we live in a constitutional republic and have a right to dictate to our representatives how to vote. If they don’t listen to us, we have the right to remove them.

    Too many of us have become complacent, thinking we don’t matter and can’t change what is going on… Think again! There are more of “us” then there are of “them”!

    • Frank

      Very True & Nicely put Doug.

    • Joe H.

      Actually Doug, it’s 68% that don’t want it!!! they just don’t listen!!!

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Prepper-in-chief

    Watch Glenn Beck if you want to learn your history and the truth. The NEA and others have been teaching the socialist way for too long. The time is now for parents to get off their duffs and take an active role in their childrens learning before their children turn them in one day to the Obama-ites.
    Watch Glenn Beck on the FOX channel, please!

    • John

      LOL you ARE delusional, Beck tells truth the same way Michael Moore does!

      • Joe H.

        john,
        I’m gonna call you on that one! Name the lies that Glenn told and back it up with sources that aren’t liberal backed or put up by a third grader!!!

        • Joe H.

          JOHN???????

          • John

            same challenge to you – show me one reliable news source that proves Moore lied. FOX, national review, Washington times, all other conservative publication do not count.

            do a simple search on Glen Beck lies – there are more links than I can possibly list.

          • Joe H.

            John
            Name the lies and sources!!!! Can’t do it???? you libbies are all alike you make statements and then can’t back them up except with your libbie progressive blather sites!!!!

      • Ellen

        Oh John this so un true!! Your lack is showing, sometimes it is better to be quite and learn where you are lacking.

        • Joe H.

          Ellen,
          did you see the typical libbie trick??? Ask them to prove anything and they come back with a prove me instead of backing up their claim!!!! He could no more prove Beck lied than make a million dollars tonight!!! he’s all talk, libbie progressive talk!!!

  • http://Lostlife Stas

    Once there was nice , beautiful land. The people were neighborly, happy, honest, all family members cared for themselves, relatives and neighbors. But suddenly the winds start changing; the people moving in and out. The new comers were looking for FREE Food, FREE Housing,
    FREE Money; they were not interested to work for living, they were lazy, the school were useless, the churches closing, etc.
    The life has changed. Now is getting worse. It’s time to plan in leaving the good OLD USA to maybe back to EUROPE where our grandpants came from.
    I am tires or supporting the bums.

    • Joe H.

      Stas,
      sorry to burst your bubble, dude, but you will be supporting them there too!!!

    • Ellen

      Stas, look at our financial situation – where is a BIG HUNK of our money going? To support welfare, illegal snithes -THE BUMS!! I am tired of it to!

  • Frank

    You dont need Beck, Just read the constitution over several days, just the words, not even try “interpeting” just read it, it makes a world of sence. Take PARTICULAR notice of what the Constitution does NOT say.

    • J C

      The Constitution does NOT say that it comes with “implied” powers.
      It does NOT say the the general welfare clause meant central banking or socialized health care…

      • Joe H.

        J C, You mean I’m not guaranteed my MTV?!?!?!? AWWWW MAAANNNN!!!!!

  • http://att.net Deborah

    Limbaugh, Beck, Lavin, Hannity, O’Reilly, etc., are patriots. They risk alott speaking out against this government. I’m a capitalist. I think its great when people can make money doing what they enjoy. Their speech rings true. That’s why their so successful. Unlike, liberal talk show host. The utter nonsence they ,sphew forth; no one with any intelligence or commonsence can listen to their lies, and exaggerations, such as Bill Marr, Jeannie Guefallo, or something like that. And let us not forget Al Gore, the authority on global warming.

    As far as leaving this country, I don’t think so. This country with all its problems, is still the best country in the world.

  • James D.

    The comments above reflect a highly disappointed, frustrated, and enraged public outcry to restore our Government to its normal modus operandi of honoring the Rule of Law and the Constitution upon which our beloved country was founded. The proper legal remedy to this disgrace called Congress and Executive Branch is to sweep 100% of the 435 House members by voting them out of office this November 2nd, and 33 U.S. Senators as well. Gone will be the biggest disgrace in the history of our House Speakers[Pelosi], Reid, and the rest of this mess, who make government service a highly paid job a lifetime career instead of public service like our founding fathers envisioned it would be. In 2011, we vote to replace the next 33 US Senators, and in 2012 we replace the last 34 Senators and BHO, the biggest socialist, Muslim Terrorist threat this country has ever had or will have. No Anarchy here, simply the power of the voters to take back America and replace this mess with Term Limits for all House and Senate Members, repeal of their cushy retirement pension, retain them on their social security plan and watch how quickly action is taken to fix our Soc Security plan, no special health care plan for Congress, a legislative plan to balance the budget starting immediately upon taking office in 2011, the phased in recall of 145,000 of the 165K Armed Services forces residing in 146 Countries overseas, immediate termination of NAFTA, immediate recall back home of USA troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, terminate all foreign aid regardless of commitments and impact and direct those funds to rebuild America and assist our poor, relocate the United Nations Assembly out of New York and the USA entirely, suspend all diplomatic efforts to broker a deal with Israel and Palestinians, since the Palestinians will never rest until all of Isreal is restored to them and Jews killed or extradicted from their land, replace Ben Bernanke as Fed Chairman at once, terminate the OBAMACARE Health Plan if enacted this year, reduce the size of the Federal Govt employees by 35%, bite the bullet and face the painful consequences of no more Stimulus Money, no more TARP money, let American Industry sink or swim, tighten the regulations on our Banking System and Wall Street via SEC and dissolve the Republican and Democratic parties and institute the “American ” party so that we do not have two sides to the aisle in Congress, but one united Body. We became the greatest country in the World by free enterprise, and minimal regulatory intrusion by the FEDS. When you learn that as a bankrupt country, the USA will have to continue to operate by printing more money until our currency becomes like Russian Rubles of old…only good in Russia and nowhere else, then it is a matter of our corporate and personal survival to replace the piss on each others shoes gang in Washington with a fresh new Congress and Administration.

    • John

      Spoken like true libertarian! The biggest problem I have with your whole argument is that history PROVES that if you deregulate industry they either steal society blind or they try to enslave the workers.
      Look what happened when Savings and loans were deregulated, look at what happened when banking was deregulated. Look at how the coal miners were treated until some regulation was imposed. There are a TON of examples of industry walking right over citizens rights for profit – that is why our government started regulating them in the first place!

      • Joe H.

        john,
        AT WHAT COST???? How many jobs have been lost to this country due to the unions????

      • Vicki

        John, Industry only walks on workers who consent. Every coal miner that ever was could have gotten up and walked away. Too much gov regulation makes it hard or impossible for those miners to start their own business.

        Government on the other hand merely points a gun at the customers head and says give me your money. Should you resist or object government will walk all over you.

  • http://none buckeyemanpl

    What freedoms and whose freedoms are being threatened by the Obama administration. There is one major freedom that is threatened, the freedom to steal. Look at Wall Street Bankers, Corporate CEO’s, and the greedy health insurances companies. Government regulation of these 21st century robber barons must take place or democracy is lost. We will have a government of, by and for the greedy. The freedom to lie, cheat, steal, pollute,and wage war with no accountability –all of those freedoms must be regulated. Don’t tell me we have too much regulation. The economic collapse of 2008 proves that we did not. The people who complain most about their freedom being regulated are people in prison because they were not free to break society’s law. Some regulation is a must to save democracy from a laissez-faire, law of the jungle approach to living in a civil society.

    • MW

      I have no idea what you’re trying to convey????

    • Joe H.

      buckeye,
      If you are from Ohio as your name implies then you should know the threat to our jobs here!!! Obummer is hand in hand with the unions, making special deals with them and the cost in jobs to Ohio is great!!! Wake up while you can!!!

    • Vicki

      The economic collapse of 2008 showed that government meddling in the economy will ALWAYS result in disaster. Just follow the trail of bank “de” regulation from the 70′s (CRA) to 2008.

    • J C

      So, laws of control and compliance are “civilized”? And you don’t think Obama is in bed with the corporate elite just as much as every other President since Lincoln? How incredibly naieve. You sir do not at all understand the meaning of the word “civil”.

    • eric

      Buckeye,
      Stealing is part of modern day America. You get any kind of government assistance and make over $5k per year then, according to world standards, you’re in the top 50% of wage earners, you are rich, so therefore you’re a thief by taking money from the “people.”

      The United States of Socialist America can stop these problems. We need to export 80% of our physicians to nations of the world that are poor. Don’t think Mexico when I say this… they are rich too… they make 40% more than the average world citizen. Think Botswana. When we are like Botswana we’ll be average… not too rich not to poor… just right.
      We’ll only get this if people like you help to democratize the world. Only then can the people making under $5,000 a year demand money from the greedy rich people that make over $5,000 a year.

  • Frank

    Bill Oriely may be someone’s patriot, but he is NOT a UNITED STATES patriot..one sad example is He called Oathkeepers “radical” because Oathkeepser dont believe US troops should ever do what was done in the wake of Katrina (Herding citizens into an arena, disarming citizens, cutting power & telephone lines) I checked them out, they simply believe in keeping their oath to the Constitution/We the People FIRST-Govt Last.
    Bill O-reilly believes that suspending the Constitution under the conditions of national emergency is Justification for suspending your rights, the constitution & Bill of rights. Bill Orielly is an elitest who cares more about what he believes then the Constitution.

    • Charles David

      O’Reilly seems to have changed over the last year or two. He gives the Obama administration a pass on nearly everything. He thinks Obama is a “good man”, just not well informed. He refuses to think that Obama is a Marxist. And he is woefully misinformed and uneducated regarding the Oath Keepers and the Second Amendment. I saw the segment you refer to and I was very disappointed in O’Reilly.

  • KCD

    If the slaughterhouse thingy goes through and this is forced on us, from what I understand (and I’m sure someone can correct me) is that the bill would be passed in its original form – with all the bad bells and whistles and with no public option and no fought-for-possible-revisions which everyone has been fighting over – also, I’m not too excited about someone being able to just go into my personal bank accounts and take my money.

    Along this same line – and I’m not trying to change the subject – but the One World Government – if approved like the person some of you voted for as president is strongly pushing – which I have a strong suspicion that is right around the corner – will totally take our freedom away. It won’t matter where you live. And it won’t matter who later gets voted into office, or even if the current president is impeached for any reason- – since USA will be the major funding entity (like we have money to fund the rest of the world when we are trillions of dollars down) the other signed countries to the One World Government will not let the USA out of the agreement. I have to say, I fear that prospect even more than the Health Reform Bill (and the HRB makes me absolutely sick to my stomach.)

    It is the end of civilisation as we know it…

    • MW

      Well written & I agree with your synopsis. It looks like this nation is being pushed into the NWO. After that, many of us will not have to worry about health care. Their agenda as you may know is to reduce the population of the planet by 90-98%. What is really frightening is that they now have the modus operandi to achieve this along with control of all of the world’s natural resources. We as a people are being prepared for the final solution.

      • Ellen

        It is headed that way, we know by prophecy the USA will be last for the NWO all we can do is prepare, it won’t be a easy life. There are no quarentees. We know not when our last day will be.

    • Charles David

      I share your concerns, but not your conclusion. The USA has not done anything or gone anywhere politically that cannot be undone. I hope that you are not giving up, even though your tone suggests it. I plan on fighting for reversals and improvements and a return to our constitution with every ounce of energy and every bullet that I have. If you have the same attitude, I think we will be successful.

  • Norman

    This bickering back and forth, liberals versus conservative, democrat versus republican, isn’t accomplishing anything. We all love this country and are willing to fight for our freedoms. Washington is laughing all the way to the bank at the way they are dividing us. They all sold us out. Exported jobs, imported people, raised taxes, robbed social security,and the list goes on. The question is what are we as a nation going to do about it. We all know, you can’t votem out. There are 6 more standing in line to get on this government gravey train.United we stand, divided we fall. I don’t like falling. I/we have been wronged and washington should be held accountable. Period. We can’t stand-by and throw rocks at one another while ” they”take more control and destroy our way of life.It’s time to stop talking. Action is now required. Yes, as someone above stated. Not everyone will survive. Well, in any confrontation, has everyone always survived. Show a little backbone here America. We are backed into the corner on this. stand up and fight.

    • John

      WELL SAID!!! The politicians and paid news shills are the only ones who get benefit by keeping everyone focused on the “us vs them” attitude! Our problem is that we have let politicians mold the political system into a two party system. Which is the only thing both parties agree on! The first time I voted there was about six parties running for president and you could write in anyone you want!
      Time to dump BOTH parties and a vote in a third party that is not in bed with industry or labor unions!

    • Joe H.

      Norman,
      while I agree with you in part, I disagree with the thought that we ALL love this country and would fight for our freedoms. ther are many right her on this site that only want what will be given them on a silver platter. if they have to fight for it, they don’t want it!!! The true patriots are starting to dwindle!!! We need more. We need to get off our assets and go door to door if needed to get rid of these liberal progressives and once gone NEVER let them darken the doorstep of our government again!!!

      • blackhat

        Although I agree with you in principle Joe. I can honestly say that this administration has been good for one thing. Galvanizing the patriots to a degree that few thought possible a few years ago. Have some faith that there have always been many people who share your ideals. But, true patriots have been torn for a long time. To be a patriot means that you support your constitution, therefore the constitutionally elected govt. Many have sat on the sidelines in the name of patriotism and endured. It has always taken a lot to rattle the American cage and get us into action. Not because patriots are lazy, but because patriots are willing to “let the process work.” Patriots have an unshakeable faith in the way this country was founded and in our liberties granted to us by God and defended by our people. It is true that our liberties have been under attack for a very long time. But, it has taken a direct frontal assault for the troops to finally muster. The only question is, can we succeed over the next two election cycles to stay focused and not become divided?

        • blackhat

          BTW, you libs do not need to jump on the “God” comment. All the major religions have a similar code on what individual freedoms are granted humanity. So grow up, and don’t turn this into a religious argument.

          • Joe H.

            blckhat,
            why would I jump on the God mention??? I am a Christian!!! I believe the government and schools all went way downhill when they started taking god out of them!!!

          • Joe H.

            That was a typo. It should be God!

          • blackhat

            Easy Joe…not necessarily intended for you. Just a warning shot for some others around here.

        • blackhat

          My intent was to bolster your confidence by indicating that you are not alone.

          • Joe H.

            blackhat,
            what I was trying to say is compared to say WW2 to now. back then a full 80% of the natural born would answer the call to duty. Think we’re any where near that now??? it’s been a downhill slide from Korea foreward. Eversince the politics started killing troops needlessly and not letting them fight to survive. I still remember in RVN when we flew down the river and saw uniforms, UNIFORMS and requested permission to fire. We were told negative may be friendly troops. My pilot incensed at that started buzzing them in a huey no less and of course they started firing. When they did my pilot called in and said “recieving friendly fire returning same!!!” They tried to courtmartial him for it and the battallion commander told them that if they tried to ruin a man in HIS batallion for doing his job- killing the enemy, he’d courtmartial the lot of them and he never heard another word from them on that subject!!!

    • Jana

      Actually Norman, at this point we are not bicering between liberals and conservatives, or Dems, or Repubs. WE are debating and bicering over ideal and ideologies that we know are un-American and against those who are in favor of Socialist views going forward as the law of the land in our Great Country.

      • Jana

        bickering, I do know how to spell, I was just typing too fast.

  • Jesse Parete

    Read today’s CBO report. With such a savings I support legisaltion to pay for Rush’s move to Costa Rica.

    • Jana

      The supposed savings just don’t make sense. NO WAY.!!!

      • Joe H.

        Jana,
        that’s because they are counting the 50 billion medicare money owed. and it’s only for six years of care!!!

  • Norman

    The next coment is about Rush. Forget Rush, he’s not part of the suffering here. He can buy any kind of insurance he wants. We can’t. Rush would never leave the US. He, like washington, makes too much money here. Can you people think? Don’t be shallow or we’ll never rid ourselves of these leaches. Forget the bickering and stay focused on the REAL issue. God Bless Don’t be so quick to find fault or point fingers.

    • blackhat

      Wait, wait, wait…I must have missed your point Norman. Just because Rush makes a lot of money his opinion does not matter? Is there a cut off for that kind of thing? I mean if you don’t like listening to him, okay. You are certainly entitled to that. I thought you didn’t want to point fingers?

  • http://gmail i41

    Norman you forgot the dems have been pushing for goverment control of everything. Wilson to now, is always steady chewing away on private enterprize and businesses. It is just ingrained in the matrix of liberals and all democrats,plain and simple. The The National Socialist Democrat Party is the blue print Oidoit and his social engineers. They are following with small corrections and the dem party thugs doing the leg work. But it is not taught in schools of higher education. Look at dip wad Ofudee blthering about hope and change. In another year there will be excise youth camps reeducation seminars for citizens that want freedom. Mark out the outline in the death of America as we know it!!!

  • whisperingsage

    Well, the Bible prophesied what is happening today. The world is getting closer to a One World government. We have lost all our Constitutional rights in practice. We are operating more under the ten planks of the Communist Manifesto. ALL the Planks are now in place. See this;
    http://www.libertyzone.com/Communist-Manifesto-Planks.html

    Also see http://www.losthorizons.com and get Cracking the Code by Pete Hendrickson. He painstakingly goes through the court decisions and the IRS code to show what is really says about taxation (it was never meant to be put on the private worker, only on federal workers and profits.) he shows how a few IRS forms filed will make the IRS agents eyes glaze over and give up the fight for your money. Do it people. Now is the time.

    • Joe H.

      Whispering,
      A one world government.you are right and like I said earlier it ain’t like Star Trec!!!!!

  • John

    To take a quote from a VERY interesting movie: “The Only Verdict Is Vengeance.” It will come, unless things are set right, very soon. Think French Revolution, this time around. It won’t be as civilized as the Revolution of 1776 was.

    • blackhat

      Take note John…and, I’m just throwing this out there…our revolution was not so civilized! But, your point is well taken.

  • RL

    I AINT LEAVING, I’M GONNA STAY AND FIGHT TO THE DEATH (If necessary)! AINT NOBODY RUNNIN ME OUT OF MY COUNTRY, IN WHICH SO MANY HAVE FOUGHT FOR (INCLUDING MY SON) AND DIED FOR!

    • Jo

      RL
      My deepest respects and sympathy to you and your family.
      God bless and be with you.
      A Proud American Citizen

  • magjoh

    I see Obama is finishing up what George’s started. It is amazing to see how some can get uptight about the deficit. When Obama is trying to pay for what the US government has already approved. Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare is broke. Do you think he is stupid to tell these people that they can’t get a check anymore. What would you tell Americans that has worked hard and paid into these government programs. Someboby is going to pay and it is going to be you, and you, and you and me!

  • Norman

    If they are unpatriotic, we must eliminate them from our society. You must earn the right to live in the USA. Those wanting a free ride must be “shamed’ at every opportunity. This applies to Muslims or whoever in Washington. These people don’t share our beliefs. Get them out NOW. Physical would work best. It’s called homework. Do it before you vote. I know people today who wished they’d never voted for Obummer. I did my homework. I knew he was worthless from the get-go. Muslim to the core.

  • Norma

    Let’s get this THING out of our Country not just out of the White House.This is the year to do it not in 2012.This BAST— will have all us real Americans killed by then.He’s more like Hitler than anyone else in hiatory.God will not help us as long as satan jr. is in charge.Let us stand by our beliefs and oust this animsl!!!

  • Mona

    Who can blame the rich if they do leave. Obama is doing his best to destroy them. They will be paying higher taxes than lots of people so that all the people that thinks the world owes them a living can live the good life. As if most of them don’t already. Rush doesn’t even use insurance. If I could afford it, I would be right with them. I have heard people criticize Rush because of taking pain medicine. Maybe they have never hurt. Everyone I know is practically living off medicines. The doctors have them on it. Rush isn’t overweight anymore. All of you people please get over you envy and jealousy of him. It makes you look pathetic. I am thankful that we have people like Rush, Beck, Hannity, Michelle Malkin and lots others that keep us informed about the corruption and stupid actions in our Government.

    • Joe H.

      Mona,
      all those people that gripe about Rush taking pain pills? I wish them my back!!!! Botched surgeries and all!!!

      • Onmywayout

        Meanwhile (dem) Marion Barry was re-elected how many times after getting arrested for posession of crack. U don’t hear a lib say a thing about that, but we’re the hypocrates!!!!

      • Mona

        I know a few people that had back surgery and was thrilled over the results. A year later, they were in pain again. I have chronic head aches and try not to take anything until they get real bad. I don’t like side effects of drugs. I don’t blame anyone for trying to feel better. I hope you find some relief for your back pain.

  • Claire

    Gee—if Rush wants to leave America, I will gladly help him pack. I never could stand that fidgety person. But, he won’t leave, we all know that. Besides, I am not “worried” about his hot air. I could care less what he does.
    I am certainly more concerned with the health reform garbage. This administration is nuts. They are hell-bent to ruin all of America. My husband told me today that they are planning to cut the payments to doctors for medicare patients. That means the elderly will have one hell of a time trying to find a doctor to take care of them. Forcing businesses to have insurance will only produce lay-offs. Stealing from Social Security and Medicare (as always) to prop up their useless garbage. The Demoncrats are doing this just for the sake of having something to “brag” about if this illegal piece of garbage passes. “Brag?” They have shot themselves in the foot. Sure, Obama is a part of this but mostly I believe it is Pelosi and Reid who is ramrodding this mess and Obama is following along like a puppet. I could rant and rave all night. I am totally fed up with the Democrats and the Republican RINOs.

  • http://windowslive.com C. Baumgardner

    I agree with the part about us not having to leave our country.. The operative word being; our… But I do believe that Obama has a bigger agenda . Meaning the future possibility of him leading the new world order; as they call it. And if he succeeds then you will know just who he is. Read your bible.. Revelations will do. If anyone fits the bill of an antichrist it’s Barack Hussein Obama. Either him or Maurice Strong . Who knows, but I still think we need to fight the takeover of our whole way of life. And before I’m forced to move out of my country, I’ll be darned if I won’t be putting up a fight.. So let’s get out there and vote! And as the saying goes: Don’t let the blankety blanks wear you down…God bless America……….

  • Ed

    I WOULD RATHER FIGHT THAN MOVE! I am American, not French!

    • loren

      Way to go Ed, we are with you. Go USA

    • Joe H.

      Ed,
      I was born in this country and someday I will die in this country!!!! I fought for her and love her still!!!

  • loren

    Did you ever wounder why no other country in the world has ever tried to model their government after ours? Have you ever wondered why so many people want to come here? We are a free people and our government whats us to be a slave people. Americans have learned who their enemy is and it is the enemy of freedom. We will fight our enemies of our freedom and I promise you we will win. So I’m not going anywhere because I have my work cut out for me.

  • http://hotmail.com Patty

    Costa Rica have Goverment Run Health Care …..So why is he going there? to Poison their people like he does here in US ?
    No one that consider him/herself a true Christian should be listening to Rush . And by the way, when Greed, Selfishness, Supporting NRA and other( to Long the list to name ) are Christian values …By the way what kind of goverment do you think you will have when Christ return to Earth ? Do you think that Jesus will allow you to have 11 Houses were others die of hunger? …You Claim to know the Bible but you don’t….You only know whats convenient for you. You have transform the Church in a placed were MONEY is your GOD. If you really knew God you will care about other having the opportunity to Health Care. Abortion is not the only way people kill. They also kill by denying health care to others, starting selfish WARS with lies, by Buying so much trash that we have to imported to 3rd wolrd countries were children are been poison. Where Health and Education are not the priority but SELF INDULGENCE…..Are those Christian Values ? Your are just like the Pharissees and Saducees of Christ Time . They Spit on him and crusified him,….And amazingly they were the so call leaders of the Churchin ….Jesus did warned about people like you. Hypocrits!!!!!! All you care is about yourself.

    • Onmywayout

      So ur Jesus would accept my being a slave to pay for someone elses desires? Don’t think I like him very much. If a great, fair, and loving god really exists he’ll allow us all opportunity and freedom. Freedom from an oppressive govt. and freedom from slavery. (If I were Jesus I’d be insulted by u’r assertion that I’d b that oppressor! He helps those who help themselves, prefers to teach a man to fish, etc.) I hope a god does exist and I would love to live in such a world. But until ur god comes here to steal my freedoms in the name of “fairness”. Or my god comes to give us all a fair start with freedom I’m gonna protect what little freedom I have left. Not for me. My life is mostly over, but for my christian children, grand children, neices nephews, etc. Oh and ur’s too because it’s not their fault that so many of today’s America don’t understand simple things like. Socialist countries have to build walls to keep people in while America (the land of the free) has had to build them to keep people out.

      • Vicki

        God has already given each and every one of us the most precious gift of all. The gift of free will.

        • Jana

          And some use it wisely, and some don’t.

    • Joe H.

      Patty,
      Go back to TH!!

    • eric

      “No one that consider him/herself a true Christian should be listening to Rush . And by the way, when Greed, Selfishness, Supporting NRA and other( to Long the list to name ) are Christian values.”

      Patty, you do a great disservice to the progressive movement. We thank you for trying to help but when you write incomplete sentences and use misspelled words you align our cause with ignorant rednecks. Freedom of speech is only for intelligentsia… please refrain from giving your opinion!

      Sincerely,

      COAISIB
      community organization against incomplete sentences in blogs

      • Jana

        See what I mean? eric is a case in point.

  • gofer

    It’s hard to bear the ignorance of people who actually think they are going to pay LESS and get better care. You must have missed the part in the Health Care Summit where L. Alexander got Obama to admit that premiums when go UP! Obama’s answer was “er, uh, er…welll..there will be more benefits.” 36% of Doctors are considering retirement or leaving the profession according to a NE Journal of Medicine survey.

    Medicare, Medicaid, SS…all are underwater and people are so dumb, they think somehow thiswill be different. BTW, Walgreens in Wa State will stop taking Medicaid because of losing money….a preview of ObamaCare.

  • gofer

    There is a group of American doctors and nurses establishing health services in Costa Rica which will allow people access to surgical services and other procedures in anticipation of LONG delays from Obamacare. It has NOTHING to do with Costa Rican health care!

  • gofer

    Health Care is only denied in countries with National Systems. Nobody in this country is denied healthcare. It’s the law. To say people die because of being denied healthcare is a blatant LIE! People in England and Canada often die waiting to see a doctor or their condition has progressed to the point where it’s too late.

    • Jana

      gofer,
      AMEN!

  • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

    I have walked this “Mother Earth” for 73 winters, a retired College / University Associate Professor, have gone through all the (Universities) hoops and loops required by the “White man Administrations” to acquire and receive the many Degrees that I have earned in order to be considered an educated and qualified member of this society.
    By accident, a year or more ago I discovered Personal Liberty Digest, became interested and became a daily reader. I want to give to all of you a gift, written by a beloved Sioux brother born on the reservation in Sisseton, South Dakota, an Indian expert/activist in Law, Meredith Quinn.
    Pay attention to the words as you read for you just might understand how “We” the originals see your world. Myself, I see perfectly how they have you playing the fiddle to “their song and dance”.

    “Creed of the Indigenous”
    Manifest Destiny, If the truth of the White Man is made up of what his people, are to believe, accept, and practice, and this can be proven to be a Total Lie, then the real Truth has to be a lie. So; the Lie is the Truth, and the Truth is a Lie.
    What can the intellectual system of the White Man hope to gain other than, Total Slavery.
    Would you be able to face the real truth of his religious, educational systems or his ideologies?
    KEEP THIS IN MIND,
    The White Man has it down to a common equation, Where it touches every religion, race, and nation in the world, Except; the Traditional Indian of North and South America, who understand the mystery of the Great Law.
    Even when one dies this Lie has it’s purpose, because to awaken in the so-called world beyond, one would open his or her eyes into a TOTAL VOID.

    “THE CREED”
    To seek, search, hope, or wonder of what happens after human death , is not my problem.
    To wonder how far this Lie, affects a person’s life, is a White Man’s problem.
    For I am born Free from this Lie. I can awake each day, as the sun rises and say;
    “IT’S A GREAT DAY TO DIE”.

    In closing some final words, remember history, greater Nations, Empires, Civilization have come before this one, they have all risen and fallen, they have come like the waves of the ocean One right after the Other. Your destiny is written in the winds, we shall wait and see. Perhaps with today’s happenings you may now feel the pain our ancestors felt when yours came looking for FREEDOM and how quickly they forgot. Now your own “Kind” have an African/Mulatto implementing more of the Lie. Would you elect an American Indian as President of The United States or keep them on reservations ?

    • Joe H.

      WIA,
      the only problem with what you write is even the Native Americans believed in a life beyond!!!!

  • 14Freedomfighter88

    Rush is right and I was right too. I lived in California and moved to Asia last July. I will spend the time here, instead of going to a death-camp called NObamaCare. I don’t need a Kenyan bozo tell me what is good in a country which was founded by my White European brothers and sisters. I urge all White Americans – with or without families – to leave the United Socialist Police States while you can.
    This is serious matter. Remember what happened in 1917 Russia… 80 MILLION DEATHS followed and they had later no chance for escape.

    • Joe H.

      14,
      Stay in Asia!!!!

    • J C

      I guess the rest of us will just continue to arm ourselves to the teeth.

  • Mills

    MW is right this country is not a democracy, I was reading about the difference governments on a web site the other day,and I was very confused until I read this, this country is a republic! I tried to explain it to my husband and he looked at me like I didnt know what I was talking about, but if you read it makes sense!! There is a big different between the two.

    • Vicki

      We are not just a republic. Many of those have come and gone throughout history. We are a Constitutionally LIMITED Republic. This is what made us unique in history and in the current world.

      Keep in mind also that the democracy that we were constantly taught in (government run) school is best described as 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner.

      • eric

        That quote is often attributed to Ben Franklin. My pastor used to say it in a bit different way…”democracy is the tyranny of the 51%.” We are now a democracy…the revolution has been waged and won by the progressives.
        Americans didn’t pay attention; Americans didn’t fight; the Constitutional Republic is no more.
        The question is what is it that the 51% want? I’m sure they want to enslave the 49%, they want to rob the 40%, and they want to be worshiped by the 49%.
        I wonder who is going to write the letter to all homeowners stating, “you have until Jan. 1, 2017 to turn your house over to the neighborhood equality board.”

  • Mills

    The feds dont give a damn about us they just want to ram this health care thing down our throats, because it is their agenda and Obama wants to go down as the Pres who brought about health reform, its a name for himself,period, nothing else!! What government program can they run without it going down the tubes, I bet they couldnt run a dollar store to save there ever loving lives!!!They dont care they are spending our money, they did not have to work hard to get it!! Its so easy to spend someone elses money! Why dont they get a real job, a job about how to spend someone else’s money is not a real job!!! The hard working Americans have real Jobs!! They think the money is endless, thats just like my kids, that just shows irresponsibility and immaturity. They are not adults they just pretend to be!! They are so out of touch with the average American it just blows my mind. What we need first is jobs!! not health care reform!

  • Joe

    Rush Limbaugh: Yeah that sounds like something Rush Limbaugh would do. I bet he would of been one of the first to talk patriotic during all of our country’s wars, esprcially Nam, because I am sure he was of the age of military service, much like George W, and he would have left the country to avoid going to war, much like the cowards (Dick Cheyney is one of them) who sought deferments during that war and all other major conflicts. Rush Limbaugh should be run out of the USA on the next available transportation going overseas.

  • Joe

    14Freedomfighter88 says: Rush is right and I was right too. I lived in California and moved to Asia last July. I will spend the time here, instead of going to a death-camp called NObamaCare. I don’t need a Kenyan bozo tell me what is good in a country which was founded by my White European brothers and sisters. I urge all White Americans – with or without families – to leave the United Socialist Police States while you can. This is serious matter. Remember what happened in 1917 Russia… 80 MILLION DEATHS followed and they had later no chance for escape. FREEDOM FIGHTER, no!!! more like COWARD, much like all the Republicans, except for one brave man John McCain who fought and suffered in SE Asia (Nam) when captured.

    Reply

    • Jana

      Joe, so you just defected (ran) to Asia like the cowards oh excuse me conscience objectors ran to Canada. Good boy.

  • M. Peters

    I will not leave, this is my country. My father died defending this country and I will not let those clowns in DC destroy my country. I will use my rights as an American to defend it to my last breath. I took an oath in the military to up defend my country and uphold the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic, SO HELP ME GOD! Those clowns also took an oath on the BIBLE before GOD, to the same constitution. They lie like they always do then they are traiters to the country and should be dealt with accordingly.

  • eric

    If we are to ever have total equality in our country we have to have socialism first; communism in the end. Obama is doing what he was elected to do and that is to help equalize America first and the world second.
    It’s just not right that Americans make $43k per year (2005 numbers) on average when workers of the world average about $5k per year. Even Mexicans average over $7k per year.
    Wouldn’t it be nice if we all lived equally… like Botswana or Venezuela? They can both live on about $5K per year.

    • Joe H.

      Eric,
      i suggest you catch the first plane to venezuela as fast as you can and stay there till you succum to what ever you do!!!! The U.S. doesn’t need open communists like you!!! Leave and don’t let the door hit you in your ass as I wouldn’t want you to get a concussion!!!!

  • eric

    Joe H… you make me laugh. Why should I leave America? Should the slave master be afraid of the slave? If all that Americans can do is write notes on blogs like this and tell me to “love it or leave it” then I’ll bet they don’t have the **** to defend whatever it is they think should be defended. America has become a nation of sheep… and sheep need shepherds… progressives offer America their services.

    • Jana

      eric, whew, after listening to you we all need to go get a bath and wash the filth off of us. Your words are pure filth and Communistic.

      • eric

        Jana,
        You think my words are filth? They sure are… but they’re also prophetic if Americans don’t wake up and realize that our country is being stolen from right underneath us. Am I really a progressive or a communist? Nope… just doing some tongue in cheek in hopes of making others mad enough to actually do something.
        The progressives are taking the bull by the horns and trying to wrestle us to the ground. What have you done this week to help the fight against tyranny?
        If we constitute 33% of the population… then each and everyone of us needs to talk with 2 other people between now and next November and help them to see what we see. I’ve converted one person and now working on person 2. It took me two months on person one. :)

        • Joe H.

          eric
          come talk to me when you have really fought communisim!!! I have!!! Tell you what son some day come see me and insult me like you just did and we’ll talk about who’s a sheeple!!!!

    • http://www.americairemember,com angel-wanna-be

      ERIC IT APPEARS A COMMUNIST COUNTRY IS LOOKING FOR THEIR VILLAGE IDIOT__GO HOME SON!

    • keith

      from a retired marine,oneday you’ll run that yap off in front of the wrong individual and he’ll knock you into next week!i bet your quiet as a church mouse in person.maybe it’ll be my good fortune one day to meet you in person somewhere and you’ll see your bulldog mouth overloaded your rabbit a**!!!

  • http://none Moray, like the eel

    Bull [offensive word removed], all Americans have their head in the sand. They will like, the perverbial frog in ever warming water, remain that way until they die.

    • eric

      Moray, you may be right. I look around me and see Americans grazing contentedly. I think Ferdinand the Bull. You think they’ll remain that way until they die… I don’t know. Americans can be pretty heavy sleepers but who knows… maybe Obama is the 2 by 4 that will finally wake Americans up.
      Nah… probably not. z-z-z-z-z

  • http://none Moray, like the eel

    BS, Americans remain with their head in the sand. They, like the perverbial frog in ever warming water, will so remain until it is too late and they are dead. Todays political process is antiquated and far too slow to react against the usurption of our country.

    • Joe H.

      Moray, like the eel,
      Full of shat like the bull!!!!

      • http://none Moray, like the eel

        Joey H. baby,

        Shake your little round head and the sand will flow from your ears. Also learn to spell as “shat” isn’t truly a word except in your sand filled cranium. Try excrement, as it means the same thing, almost. Oh well, you probably do not have a clue as to what I am speaking to anyway. The real truth of it is that Americans have become so complacent that they no longer realize that the ever growing government is eventually going to control all aspects of life, movement, nourishment, and eventually shall dictate levels of achievement that specific individuals may attain. If you attempt to earn too much money, the government will help you control yourself by extracting large sums of your earnings and distribute them to other more deserving individuals.

        A couple of things can be said for President Obama’s healthcare plan. First, it will put to work somewhere in the neighborhood of over 100,000 individuals. Most, if not all, of them will be government employees, and can you guess who will foot the bill for their salaries, insurance packages, retirement packages, and so on? The Taxpayer will foot the bill. Secondly, it is already verified that it will increase health care costs as well, and that it will increase private insurance companies premiums.

        Rush Limbaugh and his statement about leaving the United States in five years is what started this thread. Since I am capable of judging things on my own it is not the oratory skills of a single individual, such as Rush Limbaugh, that worry me. What will significantly worry me is when I can no longer find extremist points of view on the radio or television. When the government finally wants to demonstrate it’s total control it will begin to attack freedom of speech by shutting down anything it considers subversive. The main problem with America is we fail to see the forest for all of the darn trees. Trees such as bills that need paying, need a new car, need a new pair of socks, lunch out, mow the lawn, day care costs, the cost of gasoline, and now the school lunch went up $.50. The government of these United States of America has already exceeded its intended functions as set forth in the Constitution. The Constitution is a significant document that establishes the union, linking all states together, for the common defense of the whole. The result, the best armed nation in the world. The Constitution also established a number of freedoms specifically as they pertain to individuals. The result, individual freedoms beyond those of any other country, which has created the most intense influx of immigrants ever felt.

        I am a senior citizen and have seen far too much history. I fear not for me, because I probably will not live to see it, but I fear for my children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren . So come on , Joey H, shake that little round head and let the sand flow. I have hope that is supported by the fact that you are here, are probably salvageable, and perhaps young enough to do something about it. God help us if you work for the government, you know mailman, teacher, fireman, policeman, politician, or park worker. If you work for the government, to survive you must help them dismantle the Constitution as it limits your growth.

  • Raggs

    I have had this discussion with my wiffie.
    I was seriously thinking of leaping to another country to excape this dictatorship…Prehaps Mexico where we could live for almost no cost.
    Problem is that every country in this world Hates Americans so we have nowhere to hide. We have decided to stand our ground at whatever cost.

  • Okbluzman

    Good riddance to bad rubbish as far as I’m concerned. If he (and the rest of his lemmings) were to choose to leave the country FOR GOOD I’m sure the rest of us would take up a collection to help send them on their way!

  • Jim Henry

    WHAT ABOUT THOSE WHO CANNOT AFFORD TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY. I GUESS WE WILL HAVE TO RIDE OUT THE OBAMASTORM. GOD HELP US!

  • Pete

    Raggs,
    Why you think every country hates Americans is beyond me. They may envy us, but not hate us. Big difference.
    As for Rush, He nails the liberals for what they really are. Why do you think they scream and call names so much at the very mention of his name ? Yet not one of them can come up with any defense when Rush backs them into a corner ?

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    It’s a sad day in America if people contemplate leaving for other nations. America’s always been the wealthiest and most free nation on earth. What country is superior?? Yes, we’ve seen better days – prior to FDR and LBJ. And we are now seeing the consequences of the disastrous 11/4/2008 election. If we don’t get rid of Obama, Pelosi, Reid and their ilk in 2010 and 2012, that’s the end of America as we knew it!!

    As for an exodus from the USA – I’m all for it!!!! That is – let the malcontent politicians now in power leave, as well as the ignorant voters who elect and re-elect them!! Since we outnumber the leftwing malcontents, we could buy each of them a one-way plane ticket to Cuba, Venezuela or North Korea. Good riddance to these malcontents!!!!

    • Joe H.

      Earl,
      don’t you know? Even Fidel wouldn’t take them!!!!

  • THE CLASS HISTORIAN

    THE OTHER DAY I WROTE ABOUT “THE RELIGION OF PEACE” IN AMERICA; ACTUALLY, I WAS REFERRING TO ISLAM. THE BEAUTY OF ISLAM IS THAT IT DOES NOT HIDE ITS AMBITION OF CONQUERING THE WHOLE WORLD AND CONVERTING EVERYONE TO ITS RELIGIOUS BELIEFS. BY REFUSING TO DO SO, THE LAST WORDS THAT YOU WOULD HEAR ARE (SHUDDER, SHUDDER, SHUDDER): “OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!!!!!” N.B.: WITH PROFUSE APOLOGIES TO THE RED QUEEN IN THE MOVIE ALICE IN WONDERLAND.

    BHO, BEING THE SON OF A MUSLIM, IS OVERTLY OR COVERTLY DEEMED TO BE ONE; IN ORIENTATION, IN THOUGHTS, IN WORDS AND IN DEEDS. NOT SURPRISINGLY, HIS POWERFUL, INFLUENTIAL COMMUNIST CZARS (WHO ARE BEYOND THE OVERSIGHT OF THE RUBBER STAMP CONGRESS) AND THEIR ATHEISTIC MINIONS ARE ACTIVELY ERASING THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION IN AMERICA. THUS, THEY WANT TO EXPUNGE “IN GOD WE TRUST” FROM THE COURTHOUSES, FROM PUBLIC AND FEDERAL BUILDINGS AND FROM OUR MONETARY CURRENCY. THEY PROHIBIT THE SCHOOL MEETINGS OF CHRISTIANS WHILST ALLOWING THE CONGREGATION OF MUSLIMS IN SAID SCHOOLS.

    WITHOUT A PERMIT, CHRISTIANS CANNOT HOLD A PRAYER MEETING EVEN IN THE SANCTITY AND PRIVACY OF THEIR OWN HOMES. IN THE NEAR FUTURE, I THINK YOU WILL BE PUT IN JAIL IF YOU DARE SAY “MERRY CHRISTMAS” IN PUBLIC.

    GOD WILL NEVER FORCE HIS DIVINE PERSON UPON HIS CREATURES BECAUSE HE GAVE US THE GIFT OF FREE WILL. IT IS UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL TO DECIDE WHETHER HE WOULD LIKE TO GO TO HEAVEN OR TO HELL. THUS, IF AMERICA WANTS TO HAVE NOTHING MORE TO DO WITH GOD, THEN I GUESS GOD WOULD SAY: “SO BE IT; ALTHOUGH DEEP, DEEP DOWN IT HURTS ME SO MUCH BECAUSE I LOVE YOU”.

    AS APPLIED TO OUR ORDINARY LIVES, YOU’D UNDERSTAND WHAT I’M SAYING IF YOU REALLY AND TRULY LOVE YOUR KIDS, RIGHT?

    LASTLY, AS THE CLASS HISTORIAN, I HOPE AND PRAY THAT ALL OF US HAVE LEARNED THE LESSON OF SODOM AND GOMORRAH. IF YOU CAN’T BE GOOD, AT LEAST BE CAREFUL.

    • NEWS

      To “The Class Historian” Have you seen this article?

      JOSEPH LIEBERMAN (I-Conn.) and McCAIN introduced a bill entitled “THE ENEMY BELLIGERENT INTERROGATION, DETENTION and PROSECUTION ACT OF 2010.” (http://www.jbs.org/jbs-news-fe…..ligerentsq)

    • Joe H.

      historian,
      the JWs, down the street hold meetings every other week and they don’t need a permit. i think you went to the future a little in your “history”. I like help with our fight against our progressive antagonists but I don’t want to drop to their level with un-truths!!!
      If we decend to that level, how are we any better than them??

  • News

    JOSEPH LIEBERMAN (I-Conn.) and McCAIN introduced a bill entitled “THE ENEMY BELLIGERENT INTERROGATION, DETENTION and PROSECUTION ACT OF 2010.” (http://www.jbs.org/jbs-news-feed/6088-mccain-lieberman-bill-would-deny-civilian-trials-for-qenemy-belligerentsq)

    If this bill is passed, our rights can be taken away by simple declaration that we are belligerents. How many FEMA Concentration and Internment Camps do we have in America?

    • Vicki

      Judging from the number of states lineing up to challange the Obama Health care plan those FEMA camps had better be REALLY big. :)

  • chuck b

    news
    good for lieberman and mccain we should keep these trials out of civilian court, of course the attorneys don’t like this, they support their pocket. if our citizens are caught on the battlefield in a foreign country or connected with terrorist they should be retained by the military and prosecuted to the fullest extent, by the military. the article you refer to is typical liberalism at its best.

    • Joe H.

      chuck b.
      consider that phrase whatever the president considers appropiate!!! now think of Obummer if he doesn’t want to give up the office in 12 then he says the TEA PARTY is a beligerant combatant and we got a whole new can of worms!!!

      • Vicki

        More likely the can would not contain anything as nice as worms :) (Don’t tread on me :) )

  • Norman

    If you all would direct that Energy and anger at the White House instead of at one another, We would be alot further down the road. You dumdasses just don’t get it. United we stand- divided we fall. It’s such a simple thing.

  • Norman

    Over-taxing the people is the ROOT of the problem. Without all of this tax money congress couldn’t implement these welfare programs. Look at their wages, houses, lifestyles. All at your expense. Enjoy

  • Arnold

    I think RUSH can go to HELL

  • Arnold

    I think RUSH will go to HELL in due time

    • keith

      he may or not,but this i DO know,i am NOT running!before the scumbag communist basterds take me out,i’ll send some of them to hell via 7.62x51mm tickets!!!i’ll be damned they are going to chase me out of my own country that i served 20 yrs in the corps protecting!let them bring it own!
      i ain’t scared!come and get some,i’ll be waiting locked and cocked!
      i’m from the south and we did’nt run last time we fought these scumbags,and we went down fighten to the bitter end!vio de vinci!!god bless the south!!!!
      come on you marxist socialist pricks,try and run me out,thousands of southerners are waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Norman

    Just a word of thanks and appreciation to all the tea partiers and to everyone who gave so much time and effort to try to defeat this piece of shit healthcare bill.Many traveled great distances and made sacrafices. Due to my age and the long distance, I was unable to attend. My heart and mind were there with you every moment. I did write numerous e-mails and attemped many phone calls in opposition to this bill. It scares me now to think about my SSI, medicare and medicaid. How much longer can I hang on in this environment with thieves at the helm. I’ll not give up. The fight has just begun. I don’t think it is possible to vote them out. They are waiting in line to get onboard the government gravey train. You can’t win trying to pick the lessor of two evils. I believe violence will come and right will prevail. Our forefathers are turning in their graves. I feel as if I personally have let my country down.I should have done more. God bless you all.

  • JimH

    You guys are all missing the point. It’s not about health care at all. The only way for socialism (Communisum) to succeed is for our Capitalistic system to fail. And this is what the Maxist regime is working so hard for. And another point, this is a Christian nation, like it or not. It was founded on the principal of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. AND if the Gospel of Jesus Christ is not in your plan for the redemption of this Great Country, gentlemen, you are wasting your time. There, I’ve said it, it is the truth and I imagine there will be some really nasty comments about what I’ve said, but it is the truth and truth will stand immovable.

  • Deborah Anne Williams

    Nothing nasty to say JimH. Worship your God without persecution, but do not condemn others who do not share your beliefs. We are a great Nation that is allowed to worship, or not to worship.

    Could we drop the socialism thing? Talk about socialism if you have lived it. We have just offered insurance to the uninsured.

    Believe what you want, protest and do what ever you want to do, then shut the he__ up! I am sick of hearing people talk about leaving the country…GO! Please get out! Spoiled are the people who have it all. Feel happy for the poor who have nothing, but now have the opportunity to have health care. We the people, for the people…help the people. It is a start, and a good thing for the people who are struggling to make ends meet.
    There, that is what I have said.

  • ABinGA

    That’s just it. We the tax paying people are tired of taking care of the people that are able to work but will not due to all of the entitlements they can get at our expense. The promises of more will just make it harder for the tax payer and make the ones who want more entitlements come out of the wood work to vote for the politician promising more. If you make a living off of our money (public assistance) then you should have no right to vote.

    • denniso

      There are billions and billions in gov’t susidies to giant corporations every year…should the ceo’s of those private companies
      not be allowed to vote? What about Cheny? He helps start an utterly unnecessary war that then enriches the company he ran w/ billions in military contracts,your tax money….can he vote?

      Corporate America and some politicians conspire to shift more and more of our wealth to the rich, increasing the huge gap between rich and middle class,working class wages drop, medical costs skyrocket(because the corporations that control the healthcare system want to make more billions)and so tens millions of working people can’t afford insurance or costs out of pocket for necessary care…more millions of people pay for insurance that has a $10,000 deductible and lousy coverage in general…more millions are dropped from their insurance after paying into it for years because they get sick…insurance premiums go up 30,40,50% and more people can’t afford it.
      And you want to focus on the few people who do play the system and look for a free handout, while pretending that our healthcare system is just fine and the best in the world…WAKE UP !!!

      • Swann2001

        It it utterly amazing from reading posts on this site that the majority of people seem to think History started with George Bush. Nothing ever bad or corrupt ever happened under Jimmy Carter (Until now arguably the worst President ever)or Bill Clinton. I think Bill Clinton did more damage to this Country than any other President to date because he did it and managed to hide it so well. I can remember prior to Bill & Hilary Clinton when you could still buy something “Made in America”. Anyone care to remember the Clinton’s selling to Lincoln Bedroom for $10,000 a night to Red Chinese Officials? Sounds unreal when you hear about it now, doesn’t it. Does anyone care to hazard an opinion if they wanted to spend a night in the White House or was buying influence with the President? Anyone remember Al Gore recieving envelopes stuffed with hundreds of thousands of dollars from Buddhist (Red Chinese Agents) Monks. So what did they buy? Nothing much just the rights to one of our largest Port facilities on the West Coast, Long Beach Naval Facility. Just most of our manufacturing jobs, technology, our superpower status and our children’s futures. What did they get? At last count the Clinton’s had over $120 million dollars in their bank accounts. Not bad for selling out your Country. It kinda of makes Cheney look like a Piker. Let’s not forget the one finger wag he gave America when he swore he did not have sex with that woman. Guess it kinda goes back to what your definition of sex is. They trashed the White House and stole the China, when caught Hilary’s answer is always to give it back, no harm, no foul. Just as she did with Norman Shue. Liberals, Communists and Democrats count on the American people to have short memories. That is why they have taken root in our Education system to distort and point students in the wrong direction concerning the true History of this Country, in magic it is called misdirection and Democrats in this Administration and in Congress are experts at it. Look at what the Bush’s did but forget what the Clinton’s and that Dumbass Jimmy Carter started and is just continuing today.

        • American liberal

          You’re A Racist ignorant fool… You’re headed down the road to end up like Timothy McVeigh…and you’ll deserve it..

          • JJvence

            La booca grossa, will say anything – so many dumb merdicani will believe.
            Stupid Americans will believe anything a “loud mouth” will yell out.
            (why is it that so many of them are IRISH. Did the Irish forget how
            they too were terribly discriminated against?????
            IS IT THEIR TURN TO BE BIGOTS AND HATE OTHERS?????

      • keith

        if you want to live in a socialist utopia,why don’t you move to france?get the hell out,go,leave,don’t let the door hit you in your socialist ass!!!then you can live with a whole slew of socialist idiots!

        • cvw

          have to pick another country since the russian became pres in france hes turning it around.

  • Norman

    Support John Fleming [r] from Louisiana and his proposed 28th amendment. Read it. Pass it around. I intend to.

  • American liberal

    I wish Rush would leave America and take you rightwingers with him…. Your stupidity has nearly ruined this country…. The people spoke and President Obama was elected… And since the healthcare bill passed the majority of Americans support it….a person only needs to read the post of these hate America , hate goverment rightwing fools….the only agenda they have is to take America down because we elected a president they hate… Leave now…and don’t come back..

    • Swann2001

      The day before the healthcare vote a majority of Americans showed a majority of Americans opposed the Bill. Now we are told just one day later a majority of Americans now support the healthcare bill? I would have to say I would have some severe reservations about the veracity of the poll(s). How many registered Democrats, Communists, Socialists, Acorn people, dead people, drug-dealers, prostitutes and illegal aliens did they have to poll? I am truely sorry if I offended anyone by leaving you out, please feel free to insert your affiliation here. How about assorted wackos, Gay-Lesbian, Gay-Lesbian Drug users/dealers, sexual perverts and other deviants. I think that about covers the poll.

  • American liberal

    A proposed 28th amendment?… You people are nuts…..

  • Norman

    Liberals are ignorant bastards and nothing but suckers. Anyone that would vote for a black with 6 months experience, A muslim from Chicago with no birth certicate. Your morals are as low as his. Take a flying leap into hell liberal.

    • American liberal

      Norman…your a Racist and an ignorant slobbering fool..

      • keith

        your nothing but a socialist marxist communist cancerous leech on the ass of the united states.go live in france where you belong socialist!

  • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/pediatric-patients-with-chronic-pain-look-to-acupuncture-19609231/ James A Graham

    From: James Graham
    Date: 3/23/2010 12:02:02 AM

    From: S STEELE
    Date: 3/22/2010 3:10:38 PM
    Subject: FW: Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution

    As a widow of a military retiree, who stood with her husband for over 20 years while he served this country (which was the greatest in the world until this Congress and President took over), I have to say I agree. Shirley

    As a retired military man that have given over twenty-seven years of my life to my country, I truly feel that what this
    Country needs most is a new amendment to the Constitution . I am recommending that we add the 28th amendment to the Constitution of the UNITED STATES.

    For too long we have been too complacent about the workings of Congress. Many citizens had no idea that Congress members could retire with the same pay after only one term, that they didn’t pay into Social Security, that they specifically exempted themselves from many of the laws they have passed (such as being exempt from any fear of prosecution for sexual harassment) while ordinary citizens must live under those laws. The latest is to exempt themselves from the Healthcare Reform that is being considered…in all of its forms. Somehow, that doesn’t seem logical. We do not have an elite that is above the law. I truly don’t care if they are Democrat, Republican, Independent or whatever. The self-serving must stop.

    This is a good way to do that. It is an idea whose time has come.

    Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution:

    “Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Congressman, Senators and Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Congressman. Senators and Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States”.

    This 28th amendment to the Constitution of the UNITED STATES Will apply to all passed, present and future
    congressman, Senators And Representatives.
    Just think of all the money this would save the tax payers!!!!!

    HTCM USN Retired James A. Graham E-Mail address is ( jagraham@charter.net ) Please forward !!!!!!!

    • cvw

      thats already in the constitution but like everything else selectively enforced.

  • JPW-

    I am white and I dont know if I would vote for another white president again.Obama has done more positives in 1 year tha n have been done in the last 8 years of Bush.Perhaps Michele will run when his 8 years are up?

  • Norman

    Obviously, JPW you are, or have been a federal employee. I can spot you people a mile away. Enjoy your wages at taxpayer expense. Leaches

  • Glynn W. Pettiford

    I find it interesting that the desired demographic of this site being wholly Republican, that 73% of those voting on the recent questions regarding who/whom is responsible for this deficit…only 52% of a Republican-postured survey blames the Obama administration. But this forum continues to Obama-Bash…unabashedly, and shamefully. Seems to me that the deplorable condition of our economy (which, by the way, has come a LONG way TOWARD some degree of solvency in a short year of the OBAMA term, mind you) is nowhere close to what the Bush administration…with TWO TERMS to accomplish something…AND a TWO TRILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS…which is fully pushed into a $53-$58 TRILLION DOLLAR deficit as a result of TWO wars, AND the agenda, to kill the WRONG PERSON (Saddam Hussein) under the guise of weapons of mass destruction (WMDs)…that even today still do not exist anywhere but in the rhetoric of the Republicans that heavily invested into energy futures on the promise of taking the American People into the Saudi/Iraqi/Pakistani/Afghani regions on the guise of suspicion of war-making materiels and capabilities…and are trying to get an ROI from the funds divested them…VIA BUSH/CHENEY! Why did REPUBLICANS abandon the McKKKain/PAGAN bid for the Oval Office? Were the majority of them somehow considered too educated to continue to believe the hate-mongering platitudes their campaign evolved into… or was it that they generally had no sense of purpose to accomplish their mutual objectives after ALL the lies being told? Abu Ghraieb? Spying on American Citizens? Patriot Act? The necessity of an eggregious War Powers Act? Abasement of the Presidential and Vice-Presidential offices, in which they put themselves above EVERYBODY in the nation…sounds like a mission objective for the Bush campaign. If YOU had a father who ran the CIA, how flexible would your options be to bend, twist, hide, eliminate or “skew” data, information, sources, resources, radio, television, and internet communications. And…IF that access to such were unlimited…could you “STEAL” an election? BUY a Presidency? Distort market economies? Alter Classified Government Documents? Redistribute Voting Poll results locally and nationally? Maybe you could setup situations where minors – with Secret Service supervisory staff…would allow underage President’s kids to frequent, visit, and be served at a bar? Hmmm??? What would the limitation NOT extend to?

    • http://none Moray, like the eel

      Nope, and when in the oval office I would never zip my zipper up. Just invite Monica in for a little democratic taste.

  • http://personalliberty.com Annnette

    I’ve never seen this website before.Read for 30 minutes then scrolled to bottom.I see that there are still lots of patriots in this nation. I would like to see the conservatives take the higher ground and win your points on superior ideas. There’s an old saying, “When you’re short on facts, get mad or personal”. We conservatives have the ideas that win the argument. When presented in a civil and convincing way, we can win over most fair minded people. Emotion and insults put us on the same level as liberals. I’ve read the complaint over and over concerning how much hate speech is coming from the conservatives toward the president,when the liberals spent 8 years doing that very thing to president Bush. It’s an old tactic,”Accuse your enemy of doing what you are doing yourself”. When you point out the spending during the Bush years, don’t forget that there was a war going on after 9/11. If the previous attacks by radical Muslims during the Clinton years has been responded to appropriately, it is entirely possible that there would not have been a 9/11 attack. As a Realtor, I know that the policies that played a huge role in destroying the housing market and eventually the entire economy were implemented and protected by a Democratic congress and more specifically by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd.

    • American liberal

      Annette… Their is a huge diffrence in what Bush did and what president is trying to do… I noticed youdidnt have any facts correct at all, so I’m going to educate you…. 1st… The terrorist that attacked new York while Clinton was president are all in prison… Same with the Cole attackers… They were tried in Yemen and found guilty…. And just so you know.. When the marine barracks were bombed in Lebanon Ronald Reagan up and left.. Nobody was ever arrested….president Obama is trying to give America healthcare.. Bush went out of his way to wage a war aginst Iraq that he knew had nothing to do with 9/11… He even tried to say Al Qaeda was in Iraq… Grade schoolers know the Sunnis and Shiites are mortal enemys….we also know that Bush went around the FISA court to illegally wiretap …we know that people in his administration outted a CIA agent… Now you going to say she was active… Wrong , she was a working agent and the outting was meant to harm her because of Joe Wilson, her husband….. Nobody has died because President Obama has tried to give us healthcare … But Bushs war ( unnessessary) cost us 6000 Americans 45,000 wounded and mire that 100,000 dead Iraqis …. He borrowed the money from China bankrupting America causing the recession were in now….. You can’t compare Bush and Obama… Bush left office with our country nearly destroyed in everyway possible and with no benifit to America..Bush ignored every issue except Iraq and left it to President Obama… So yes, their are patriots in here, but it’s not you or these Goverment hating rightwing Racist…

      • keith

        you could’nt ”educate” a retarded monkey!save your socialist rheteric and move to france socialist!

      • http://none Moray, like the eel

        Howdy you ole cracker cruncher.

  • Joe

    Lots of hate here and no solutions. I am happy to see the country moving in a direction of change. it may not all be good but it is at least leveling the playing field. I am sick to death of big corporations taking huge profits on the backs of the working class. I am not against making a profit but I am sickened by extreme profit taking with no regard to morals or values or fairness.

    Sunday was a great day for America. Healthcare reform was necessary and again, not perfect but it is a platform to work from. Rush can leave or not leave, I don’t care it is his choice. I also thought about leaving if John McCain and Sarah Palin would have taken office. I am an Arizonan and I can tell you that John McCain has done nothing for the state except to bring embarrassment.

    I fight my battles at the voting booth, because that is the democratic way and it is our right as Americans. I still believe in our elections. Sometimes I get my way and sometimes I don’t.

    I was not happy with the George W. administration at all, but I never once ever had the thought to wish he would fail. He was our president and even though I did not agree with his policies, I wanted him to succeed. I also knew that the pendulum would swing and I would be a part of that change. The time for republicans will come again. Maybe in 4 years, maybe 8.

    What I worry about is the violence that both parties portray and are willing to toss our process out and let anger and greed take over. Tea party folks are leading us down a very dark path and promoting violence. If you can’t see that hatred will destroy everything then you really do not understand democracy and maybe you should move.

    How can healthcare for children and the elderly be wrong. We are all people and deserve medical attention with a care plan that is not denied because of costs.

    Look at the people around you and I am sure you can find someone who is in need that you care about that will benefit from the passing of HCR. If you can’t then you must be a very lonely person or completely out of touch.

    • American liberal

      Joe… Good post… And a rational point of view…

    • http://none Moray, like the eel

      Joe,

      The only aspect of your beloved health care package that has any honorable merit is denying the insurance companies the ability to cancel policies or raise premiums due to severe illness or pre existing conditions. The rest of the folks without insurance are that way because they do not work for an employer that provides it or cannot afford it. Well all Obamacare will do it shift the cost to other people to provide care for the poor downtrodden ones free.

      This is a quote from you .
      How can healthcare for children and the elderly be wrong. We are all people and deserve medical attention with a care plan that is not denied because of costs.

      That is a platitude, and axiom of liberal thinking. Well, perhaps I want a big car but do not want to work for it. Sure you will give me one eh? We all deserve a nice ride don’t we? Kids need shoes, free lunches at school, free flu shots, free food (Wick), free methadone supplements, free prophylactics, free deliveries, and free cell phones. Golly, what they going to need when the enter the 7th grade?

      Darn it Joe, I know you are a true American and I hope you are young. If you are young you will get to show your patriotism by supporting a 45 to 50 percent tax rate coupled with a 20 percent VAT tax and topped with the 30 or so other taxes we currently pay, that is if you work. Just a thought, I wish you would all quit referring to President Obama as a “Black”, he is not a black, but is a malotto, or as a Latino would say “mestizo”.

  • http://personalliberty.com Annette

    Joe, You just exemplified what I was talking about. You expressed your opinion, which differs from mine in part, but you did it respectfully and without a lot of insults. However, I wish that you would re-think your view of the Tea Party folks. While there may be a few fringe loonies as there are in most movements,the huge majority are just concerned citizens who love their country and feel that it is slipping away into something they no longer recognize. Our constitution provides for just such a situation by giving us the right to free speech,to assemble peacefully and to vote. That’s what the Tea Party participants are doing. Most of them have never attended a demonstration in their life until now. It seems obvious that their motivation has a sense of desperate urgency and of life and death importance or they would remain in the comfort of their homes watching American Idol or the NCAA Playoffs. There are still a few things that Americans are more passionate about than sports and Freedom is one of them!

  • American liberal

    President Obama ran on Healthcare.. And ” We the People” Elected him….

  • American liberal

    Correct… The Wallstreet Bailouts started while President Bush was still in office..

  • http://personalliberty.com Annette

    American Liberal,
    You assume that just because you THINK something makes it so. Most of your accusations were your opinion, with no evidence in fact other than you THINK so. Are you suddenly all seeing and all knowing regarding motives and covert actions? How is it that you know all of these things that no one else has found enough evidence to make a case with? You must have an inside track that even the government doesn’t have since none of the things you charged President Bush with have been proven. If they had you can be assured that someone would have brought charges against him. It is a fact that Joe Wilson lied about the enriched uranium, but it isn’t a fact that George Bush outed his wife. The person who was accused went to trial. And just to give you something new to think about, have you read “The Epicenter” by Joel Rosenberg? In it he relates an interview with one of Sadaam Hussein’s generals, who definitely stated that the WMD was moved to Syria, with the Russian’s help, prior to the war. With the months of discussion prior to the war, it would seem feasible that Iraq had plenty of time to move them. It’s good to get your information from more than one source. I have my opinion regarding motives too, but I don’t state them as fact, just my opinion.

  • ABinGA

    denniso, I guess I asked for that. Part of it anyway. I am against corporate welfare just as much as the farm subsidies given out which in fact were meant for smaller farmers but larger corporations were able to get their hands into it. Also there are more than just a few playing the system wanting and getting hand outs. Oh, by the way, we do not need government forcing health care on us.

  • keith

    maybe now,folks will realize why my ancestors from the south fought so bitterly hard till the very end!!!through toil,anguish,rivers of blood and adversity.300,000 southerner patriots died and gave their all,now time has come for it again,vio da vinci!
    a crapstorm is coming,i hope yall got your weapons oiled and are ready,cause these traitors are i’m thinking gonna have to be THROWN down via force.i waiting to see what goes down at the polls,but i’m waiting with a air and eye out for the crap to start and i’ll be there advancing the colors.i won’t run,and i’ll be damned if they will run me out my own country,thousands upon thousands of fellow southerners are waiting armed to the teeth this time.think i’m being dramatic???yeah right,just wait and see,it’s coming sure as rain!!!

  • Senior Cesar

    THE DEMOCRATIC DEFICIT IS A LOAN

    More than half of America is presently in a pathetic condition due to the Bush administration’s wasteful spending, including spending in an unnecessary war.(The present outrageous property taxes on single family homes are abominable) Some people think that the democratic administration also caused the present deficit. Nevertheless, there is a big difference. What is that difference? It is that the Bush’s deficit of whatever trillions was a waste of the treasury’s money. But the necessary additional democratic deficit is an investment toward the recovery to prosperity. “It takes money to make money.” The additional deficit is no wasted money, but money working for the good of this country. If any one has lost the purpose of the investment deficit, it is because ignorance of the reasons for the investments that appear as a democratic deficit which is really a loan for the investment and Recovery Act It is like seeds planted and at its proper time will yield an abundance of fruits, a great harvest – so to speak. So, no democratic deficit is really a deficit but a loan. . A loan appears as money out of pocket, but it will be restore with interest. So is the case of the democratic loans that ignorants and trouble makers see and talk about as additional deficit.

    If it is so, why the president does not tell it to us like that.? He has, but most people do not get the meaning of his educated presidential maneuverings. They just try to make trouble by saying, uh, more deficit! The deficit was this much but now is much more, uh! How unlearned they are! And then they called the ones who know the right techniques to recovery, morons, etcetera. On the contrary, such critics are the morons and whatever else. This recovery act will be the model of the models ever created. America is in good hands with the democrats! The pathetic condition imposed on America by the republicans will be over in due time. The American People have a duty to keep the pachyderm beast dormant without supporting votes for the safety and well being of America. America the beautiful have been rescued by the Democrats from the disintegrating clutches of the republican beast. (That Grip was put on by the supreme court mistaken decision against Al Gore in the year 2000 and also the manipulations of the count of votes four years later to hide the mistake of the supreme court from the American constituents.)(We Democrats are not fools, you know!) However, the “Democratic Party” have successfully ended the beauty and the beast tyrannical and abusive dominion. Once more America have emerged as one nation under God with Liberty and Fairness for all Americans. Yeeeehaaah! Yeeehaaah and Yeeehaah in God’s name.

    This country’s doors are open, every one is free to leave even with one hand covering the back and other covering the front. To do the pursuit of happiness elsewhere is legal. Bye, and good luck!

  • jeff

    The sooner he leaves the better. he wont be missed. iam sure he lied like he always does.

  • Mick

    “I’ll just tell you this, if this [Obamacare] passes and it’s five years from now and all that stuff gets implemented, I am leaving the country. I’ll go to Costa Rica.” —Rush Limbaugh

    This just gets better and better. Rush will leave America for Costa Rica. Wish it could happen and he takes his racist, fat-ass, rich, yet incredibly stupid friends with him. Hope he takes the trailer park trash who believes him also.

    Only 2 problems:

    Costa Rica is a very socialized Democracy and probably represents everything Rush hates about his impression of President Obama’s agenda.
    Costa Rica will either not let him move there or will send him packing if he runs his big mouth.

    Please – Rush and your moronic followers – leave the country and go be stupid racist elsewhere. Lets see how that works out for you. God I can not believe the crap printed on this web page.

    Come on, put up my rebuttal!

    • http://none Moray, like the eel

      Micky, Micky

      “God I can not believe the crap printed on this web page.”

      How eloquently you speak of your own writing. After reading your article it was excruciatingly refreshing to be reassured by your own words as to your perception of your work.

  • Bruce

    A subject i can comment on openly.
    I left USA for Costa Rica… 10 years ago. Oh i have been back and forth
    between my florida home and here (Costa Rica)and here is the real heart break friends. You see I love my country and especially my state of Florida. I came to Costa Rica not to escape but on buisness, that later turned into more buisness and I eventually married. Since the wife and I are law abiding citizens, we decided I would stay here and work on a Visa for her when the time was right. No hurry, I am American, I love the freedoms I have and I can adapt to life here in CR. Well, Ive grown home sick, I miss alot of the conveniences, infrastructure and well just being in my country. Then what happens? Im watching the election and I see Obama is elected. Hey great I thought, here is an Opportunity for a democrat, black to really show the country what he can do. This would have been the most perfect thing in history for the USA had it worked. Think about it. Had he really done a great job, he would lived forever as the 1st black president and the world would love him for it. INSTEAD i start hearing all this news, my wife looks at me and says.. why you want to take me there? I thought it was so great! That my friends is the heart break. Now, fast forward… I am sitting here thinking, maybe I shouldnt take her there, maybe we should stay right here. Im becoming embarassed, a few years ago I was proud. I am hoping and praying this will turn around. I dont get it. Why cant the left just stop and look for a moment. This President has a once in 200 year opportunity to make a real world wide statement, to be the first and best. Im heart broken. I am waiting, here in costa rica where I will remain until the states have reclaimed the honor and prestige it had. I feel I have done a great injustice to my wife by telling her were moving to USA. I hide this as much as I can, but she watches TV she knows people ask me, man… is it really like that there now? is it true??

  • Bruce

    By the way “Mick” is somewhat right
    Costa Rica is in fact very socialized in many ways. In fact you will see many similarities.
    let me elaborate:

    Costa Rica:
    Telecommunications – government owned
    Oil and Gas – governemnt owned
    police – unionized
    health care – both private and government if you work you pay into the seguros fund, and are covered nationally

    culture way over the top extreme social. Its normal to see 30 and 40 year old people living at mom/dads home with kids, oh yes. trust me on this one.

    It is a democracy with socialistic principles weighing heavily in government.

    debtors prison exists
    preventiva exists – whats that? if you are accused of thinking about commiting a crime you can be held indefinately to prevent it!

    property, if you are on it you may as well own it. The socialistic approach to squatting. Its damn near impossible to move someone off property if they decide to live on it. Careful Rush.. do some research before you pack and load that container.

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