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The False Hope of Hi-Tech

December 30, 2009 by  

The False Hope of Hi-Tech

“I don’t know if HAL is homicidal, suicidal, neurotic, psychotic, or just plain broken.”
Arthur C. Clark, 2010: Odyssey Two

Ten years ago today the clock was ticking down on Y2K. Many feared a social and economic meltdown; that a programming glitch would throw us into a new Dark Age.

Fast forward one decade. Washington and Wall Street are now betting the bank that technology is America’s savior. Everything seems within reach—more jobs, clean energy, a budget surplus, even a super-bull market.

Technology was not the Antichrist a decade ago, nor is it our savior now. It will not destroy us. Nor will it revolutionize our world. That was the power of innovation a century ago, not today.

Revolution Comes to the Farm

The kid tightened the reins on the right line and then hollered, “Get-up!”
                       
Eight thousand pounds of horseflesh simultaneously hit their heavy collars and the grain wagon started to amble its 10-mile journey to the tiny town of Lomond in Alberta, Canada.

The year was 1927 and that kid was my dad, Vern Myers.

Fifteen years before he had barely survived his birth. He was the family’s first child. His mother lay in agonizing labor for nearly three days. Aided by a local midwife for the first few hours, it became apparent that this was a crisis and required a skilled doctor. The baby’s father, Amil, saddled the fastest horse and headed to Stavely, 40 miles to the west.

These were not the days when one picked up the phone and called 911. There were no paved roads or autos that sped from place to place. The closest hospital was Lethbridge some 70 miles away where the staff consisted of a couple of doctors and half a dozen nurses.

But this time luck was with him. Amil borrowed a friend’s fresh horse. He and the doctor arrived at the lonely homestead shack.

Fifteen years later Vern was holding the lines of four horses on a wagon loaded with 7,680 pounds of the finest milling wheat in the world. He was just starting the first leg of his destination to the rails at Lomond, Calgary, and on to Ontario. There it would be loaded onto ships for Europe.

The grain tank pulled onto the prairie dirt trail and headed east. The kid restrained the eager horses. He knew that soon they would struggle to climb the 300-foot elevation before the trail leveled out. When they reached the top, the horses, with their heaving lungs, required a five-minute rest.

As the Clydesdales recovered Vern heard the strange sound. It was a motor, but it was not from a car. He looked into the lower valley that was hidden from view by the grade that had just been climbed. A cloud of dust rose in the sky. Now he could hear the straining motor and then the monster broke over the top. It was a truck loaded with golden wheat. The vehicle was gaining speed and Vern could hear the driver shifting gears. The truck pulled alongside. It was the neighbor Freddie Noyes. In a flash he was past.

An hour later and four miles further down the road, he noticed a cloud of dust approaching. It was Freddie on his way back home to load more grain.

Vern was just unloading the wagon box in town when again the noise broke the still air. It was Freddie with another load.

Watering his spent horses back at home Vern was amazed. He and Freddie had both started work at the same time. Vern had delivered 125 bushels of grain to the elevator and returned home in just over five hours. Vern had traveled 20 miles.

Freddie had driven 120 miles and delivered 600 bushels in six hours! And Freddie wasn’t one bit tired. In one day the Industrial Revolution had come to the homestead.

Enter the Microchip

In 1990 the boy that saw the truck come to the West died. He had experienced more change during his 78 years than the world had undergone during the previous millennium.

He was born nine years after the Wright Brothers flew at Kitty Hawk. As an old man he would cross the Atlantic in the Concorde at 1.5 times the speed of sound. He had seen the application of indoor plumbing, electricity, the telephone, the television, space flight and even the inception of the Internet.

I took his place as publisher at age 30. I was still in school studying at a university just as computer science was being embraced and I was enthralled by the wonders of the micro chip.

That first year I bought an IBM 386. It was a marvel for the time, with more than twice the memory of its predecessor, the 286. In fact the salesman bragged it could do 11.4 million instructions per second (MIPS)! I didn’t know exactly what that meant, but it sounded impressive.

Today the top-of-the-line computer is a diesel processor Intel Core i7 Extreme. If you ask me it sounds more like a tractor than a computer. I suspected it was a lot faster than my 3-year-old computer and far better than that old 386. But I was shocked at just how much faster it is.

The i7 Extreme lives up to its name; it does 76,000 MIPS which makes it roughly 70,000 times faster than the 386. The Extreme also has 8,000 times more memory! (Author’s note: To you computer aficionados, I did my research and understand that MIPS is a very raw indicator.)

Yet the truth is that all this speed is wasted on me. You see, I use my computer like I once used a typewriter. And unless you are doing something like scientific research or wasting your time playing video games, that computing power is senseless.

This is what MetaFilter (www.metafilter.com) has to say about the revolution of the personal computer when they compared a 1986 Mac Plus to a 2008 AMD Dual Core.

“When we compare strictly common, everyday, basic user tasks between the Mac Plus and the AMD we find remarkable similarities… thus it can be stated that for the majority of simple office uses, the massive advances in technology in the past two decades have brought zero advance in productivity,” said MetaFilter.

Certainly the Net and these super-computers provide a plethora of information. But are we really any better informed? No says Wired Magazine.

According to the June 2007 issue, “More than a decade after the Internet went mainstream, the world’s richest information source hasn’t necessarily made its users any more informed.”

Wired backs up its claim with a 2007 study from the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press that showed that Americans, on average, are less able to correctly answer questions about current events than they were in 1989.

That’s right, Americans who call the Internet their primary news source know less than fans of TV and radio news. It seems that people are more interested in Jessica Simpson than in Jim Lehrer.

A Bankrupt Revolution

The advent of the automobile, the assembly line, the airplane and the telephone revolutionized the American way of life. At the beginning of the 20th Century the United States was seen as a renegade colony. In less than 50 years we became the richest most powerful nation in the world.

By the late 1960s the American dream was within almost everyone’s grasp. Little wonder—the U.S. was the world’s largest manufacturer, creditor and exporter.

But by the 1980s the rest of the world was starting to catch up. Most of us, heck all of us, kept wanting to get more “things.” But now we weren’t earning them.

To get them we started doing something America had never done before—we started borrowing hand-over-fist. The result is we have created a debt crisis the likes of which has never been seen. And most importantly, it’s a calamity that won’t be resolved with even faster and smarter machines.

Yours for real wealth and good health in 2010,

John Myers
Myers’ Energy and Gold Report

P.S. Next week I will look at the debt crisis and what it means for your investments in 2010.

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • MJ Montana

    You make good points — there is a difference between knowledge and information. It seems to me high tech may not be our Savior. Only the Good Lord can deliver that… if he (or she) so chooses.

  • ASGreen

    Mr. Myers, you are not only a doom and gloomer, but a true Luddite.

    In case you don’t know it they are the flat-earth type people who protested the Industrial Revoluion and went about destroying mechanised looms and other machines.

    Technology is the best thing we have to solve the debt and energy crisis. Hopefully Obama will get back on track promoting more high tech, perhaps something along the lines of what FDR did in the ’30s with his great public works programs.

    • Errol Bonner

      A 30′s type economic stimulus would be impossible today because people are too lazy to work. They would rather have a government handout instead. Even during this economic downturn, there are jobs going unfilled because people won’t have them. These jobs do not come with a PC and a mouse.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Congratulations. You have just described the voting base of the Democratic Party.

        • James

          Republicans are at fault too. Just take your highly paid welfare class, like $80K+ a year PhD scientists who live off of military, science, and space budgets. Not to mention the Republican cogress from years ago who spent money so rapidly most sane people left the party. Let’s get over the one sided politics and lay the blame on both sides where it is due. It’s all largely an illusion. People want largess from the government no matter what party they are in. In the end America gets the government it deserves, and sadly the voters have spoken and both parties suck.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            While this is true, that the Republicans spent money like drunken sailors, when they were supposed to reign in spending, they at least do not build up social program after social program, and insist on taking my money, and giving it to someone who doesnt want to work for a living. The first stinking thing Obama and his ilk did, was to extend unemployment, enlarge food stamps, and WIC and all kinds of other social programs. Now they want to socialize medicine, so that Demetrius the crack dealer down the street that doesnt have a real job, you know, the kind that pays taxes, now they want him to have free insurance, so that I and other working stiffs can pay higher premiums and get less coverage because we are working. Yeah, I got a big problem with the democrats and their stinking social programs, and an even bigger problem with all you uneducated dummies that dont work that keep voting for them, because they are reason you havent amount to a hill of beans. Seriously, you guys cant see that? Amazing. The republicans are the the conservatives that they should be, and they have lost their way, but Ill put them up against the baby killing, social program growing, gays on a pedestal, lawyers for terrorists democrats any day of the week. Put that in the bank.

    • mac m

      FDR,s Public Works Programs did not work.More than 9% not working when WW2 started. The GI bill did more to keep unemployment down than ( PWP) did after WW2. All (PWP) is Socialism…A Grate Idea… Til You Run Out Of Other People’s Money. If Socialism is so great what happen to the USSR??? O YES THEIR IS NO ENERGY CRISIS!!! that is made up by GOV. to tax us more… Technology is not going to solve the debt.Stop the spending and cut taxes for all will.

    • DaveH

      AS,
      To say that technology may not be the Savior of our Nation does not make John Myers a Luddite. Ease up. Our problems are political and I agree with John that better technology won’t overcome that.

      • s c

        DaveH, I say comrade obama is a dyed-in-the-wool, hardcore, closet LUDDITE (ala FDR’s wife). What do you think?

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I’d say that FDR started a long line of democrats that have learned to lie through their teeth to get what they want, with no intent to do what they say.

          • Rod James

            Beberoni, Sounds like most politicians Dem or Rep.

        • DaveH

          Don’t know SC, but I’d bet good money he’s a communist.

  • Bob in NY

    I was a long-time reader of your father’s Vernons newsletter. I use to enjoy very much his writing and how he talked of the changes he saw from his youth on the farm.

    I am probably not much older than you John, but I also don’t understand a lot of the technology I see around me. For example, when I see kids, about in groups, they don’t seem communicate with each other, at least not “in person”. Instead they seem to be constantly “texting” their other friends. I find it bewildering and rude.

    My wife tells me someday we will have a micro-chip planted right inside our heads. I don’t doubt it.

    • James

      Bob, “And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name” (Rev. 13:16-17). An implanted microchip has already been experimented with out west. You would just have to wave your hand over a scanner at the grocery store to pay your bill. Right now, most people slide a credit card through a scanner with their right hand, what’s the difference?

      • Sam

        What if their lefties?

        • s c

          Sam, all you need to know about a delusional lefty/socialist/communist/ultraliberal progressive can be said in a few words. These people are OBLIGATED to live in a big tent, and that DEMANDS that they accept EVERYONE and EVERYTHING and they must ALWAYS follow their ‘LEADERS.’
          It’s NOT a matter of CHOICE (a word they love to throw around, but they don’t want others to have). Lefties and their assorted ‘chums’ have to surrender their integrity and whatever is betwen their ears at the front door. Otherwise, they’re not welcome.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Believe me, the sign of the devil wont be tricked upon you. When that one comes, you will know you are taking his sign, and you alone will make that decision, not be tricked into it.

        • Raggs

          The bible say’s “caused” to recieve the mark of the beast.
          You will have a choice Yes… but and there is alway’s a but.
          or a what if… How many people knowingly will accept the mark because they are hungry? So it’s not as simple as to say no.

          • http://Don'thaveone Sally

            Not only if they are hungry to take the mark, but the alternative is to be beheaded by the guiltein (spelling) Once you are in the internment camp to receive the mark, that is your choice. Kinda like if the Obamacare Health plan that doesn’t kick in until 2014 but every one has to start paying for in 2010. What choice do you have – either to stay and pay – or to leave. What a choice!!!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I have to believe Ill be gone by then, but if not, Ill know if its just a thing, or the mark of the beast, because I know my God, and he isnt going to let me be tricked, its just that simple. Now those who refuse to believe in Him, well they might have a problem, but I dont know. I just know my God wouldnt let me be tricked out of a salvation that He has promised me through believing in Jesus Christ. For that to happen, He would have to lie to me, and God doesnt lie, so therefore, yes, I have to believe I would know as to what I was taking. Kind of like Barry Bonds and the clear and cream. He knew what he was taking, regardless of what he says.

    • Lena

      Bob,

      I totally agree with you! Why are today’s youngins constantly fiddling with their cell phones? I am 22 years old, I got my first cell phone when I was 16 with the instructions from my parents “EMERGENCY USE ONLY!” Meaning I call them when I am running late, call them if I need a ride. I did not get unlimited texting or unlimited evenings and weekends and I didn’t want them anyways. Now, I dread my cell phone. I still have one, but I try to ignore it as much as possible. I find friends will just text non stop nonsene rather than give me a call and say “Hey lets hang out.” It is ridiculous. I find texting rude. Especially when peoples phones blare light in my eyes at the movie theatre. Or when you are at dinner and your date won’t put their cell down because they are chatting with friends. Like why are we even hanging out? People avoid the entire point of talking and lose essential communication skills.
      People I work with give their 12 year olds cells and they constantly text on them. Cell phones aren’t even good for you. In fact, rumor has it they are very bad for the brain with the waves they give off. Meaning parents really shouldn’t be shuving a phone in their kids hand and letting them go wild. To lose communications skills at 22 is a lot different than at 12. When these kids grow up they will practically be half robot from all the reliance they put on their phones.

  • Concerned Citizen

    What I don’t understand is why we waste so much of the new technology we do create. For instance, cars don’t get that much better milage today than they got 20 years ago. That is not to say engines have not improved. They have improved… incredibly. Yet instead of getting much better milage and driving around in cars with 150 horse-power, we get similar milage in cars that produce over 300 horsepower.

    I am an experienced driver and have never a car accident. A decade ago I owned a car that did have 280 hp. (Call it my mid-life crisis.) I quickly found out it was more hp than I needed or could ever use. Yet I see all kinds of people, even the elderely , driving upper-end Lexus and Benz cars with 400+ hp. I feel like yelling out my window, “There is no Autobahnen!”

    • M

      Imagine using technology – not for making money, but for providing food, education, medicines, energy, peace, prosperity and understanding.
      Ooops, silly me, you are humans…

      • DaveH

        It is the pursuit of profits that drives most people to produce those wonderful goods. Money is just an abstract representation of a person’s labor, innovation, and sacrifice. If you think people live too well then bash the pursuit of money, because without that pursuit we would be no better than any third world nation.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          There is nothing wrong in pursuing a business to make a profit to provides one’s self and family a living. It is when money becomes ones god, that that same one will have a problem. Money and possesions will never fill a person. Ive personally see millionaires here, that once they got the first million, they needed the second, then they needed the third, and they truly were, the most sad and incomplete people Ive ever know. Great big mansion, BMV convertibles and a Hummer, making millions, and still looking for something that all these material possessions just could fill. It took me 40 years to understand it, as I chased this crap also. What I found was we all have a Jesus shaped hole in our heart, and until you fill that, there will always be that search for something to fulfull ones desires, that never gets filled, because its the wrong shape.

          • Rod James

            Beberoni, What does a Jesus shaped hole look like?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Dont really know, just that its there. It is irrelavant as to what it looks like. What matters, is that there is only one thing that you can fill it with. So you, if you feel that way, can try to fill it with money, cars, houses, women, drugs, booze, anything your heart desires, but you wont fill it, youll forever be in search of something more, not knowing what it is, until you find Jesus to fill that hole in your heart, that is shaped like Him. So what that shape is, doesnt matter, just that its filled, or one will be forever searching for a fulfillment that wont come.

        • Rod James

          DaveH, I bet there are a lot o happy people in third world countries!
          Just because an American has the choice of or thinks he needs or has a particular tech item doesn’t mean he is happy.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Rod, I would fully agree with that. There are many indigenous peoples that live in jungles, have food and shelter, and all they need, and are very happy. I have more than them, but Im not rich. I have a house, a job, and a vehicle to get me there, and Im quite a happy camper. But then again, Im the kind who would be happy to live in the jungle without the trappings of this rat race. Its getting to be like the line in the Hank Williams song American Dream, where he says, “you gotta keep on grinding, just to try to keep it”. Somehow, I dont think we were supposed to regress to this point. And its not advance, it is regress.

          • DaveH

            Maybe Rod, and matter of fact I don’t need much to be happy. But there is a large portion of our society that apparently isn’t happy judging by the fact that they are willing to compromise their morality and steal from others to get that money.

          • Rod James

            Beberoni/DaveH,
            Happy New Year to you and all the posters on this site!
            I hope to continue our friendly debates in the new year.
            I hope every ones hole is filled with love peace and serenity.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Thanks Rod, you have a great year also.

      • Lena

        You are right M, we are. Meaning people always put number one first… which is undoubtedly themselves. It is a sad truth. But hey, you never know. One of these days people could be half robots… I wouldn’t be surprised if robots had more compassion than our fellow man and woman.

        • M

          Hold that thought…

  • http://foobarfusion.com/ Jarrod

    This argument seems flawed to me. While I agree new personal computers are not going to save the economy (I don’t know anyone who has said otherwise), it is a stretch to say that the advances in technology have brought zero advances in productivity.

    I work with small businesses every day that use the technology from the past 20 years to be more productive and efficient. As an example, the advent of the internet, broadband connections, and wireless technology have provided the following advances:
    1.) Bail Bond agents that have the ability to look at case files from their cell phones or laptops while in the field.
    2.) Print shops have the ability to pull up a proof from years ago with a few clicks as opposed to traipsing to the file cabinet and searching through scores of old paper copies.
    3.) I and many of my clients have the ability to email an invoice and accept credit/debit card payments online. This saves me money on postage and the time for traditional mail.
    4.) Police officers that can look up information in their cruisers, in the field.
    5.) Doctors, Chiropractors, and Dentists that can pull up medical records in a fraction of the time. Evaluating your previous prescriptions, x-rays, allergies, and much more.
    6.) Automated backup systems for businesses to keep their records redundantly stored off-site. This has helped virtually all my clients protect their data from fire, theft, and natural disasters.

    All of those listed above are only a fraction of examples I deal with on a daily basis. They are all more efficient and thereby more productive ways of doing business. They are also only available because of technological advances in the past 20 years.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      It is strange, how this high tech computer world, can stop our business cold when the computer network goes down, and no one can do anything because everything is in the computer. More and more we are dependant on these things, to where kids in school now days cant multiply 8 times 8 equals 64 in their heads, they have a calculator do their thinking for them, and their brains are empty. One day, one of our enemies, is going to learn how to fry all these computers and electrical programs at the same time, and there is going to be hell to pay, because face it, the new generation doesnt even know how to communicate to each other face to face, they have to text or facebook or something, but when face to face, they have forgotten how to interact. The personal touch is missing, and its creating problems now that are only going to get worse. Someday, its going to get us into big trouble, and its coming soon.

      • http://foobarfusion.com/ Jarrod

        Good points. When I was in school we were forced to do math by hand. I was helping my nephew with his math the other day and he only had 2 steps written down. I noticed the answer was wrong so I asked him to walk through the steps and show me what he did. He paused and told me he put the equation in the calculator. I knew the problem immediately was an issue with order of operation, but I explained to him you can’t just blindly plug it in the calculator and expect it to be right. I still have him walk through it and show me he knew how to do it.

        I think the biggest issue is a lack of interest from parents and educators. Educators should force students to show their work for credit avoiding calculators and forcing them to actually LEARN. I also think parents should have more oversight with what their kids are doing. This includes TV, internet, phones, etc. Too many parents don’t limit the time their children are spending and don’t monitor what they do. What ever happened to playing catch with your kids, flying a kite, building a model, etc.

        As a side note… Even though I work with so much technology and truly understand it (Masters and BS in Computer Science), I still print out my client records and file them. Call me old fashioned. I keep them digital too, because it saves me time. But I always have the paper to fall back on.

        • M

          But you solved your own problem and you should know netter, given your “Masters and BS in Computer Science”; “I knew the problem immediately was an issue with order of operation, but I explained to him you can’t just blindly plug it in the calculator and expect it to be right. I still have him walk through it and show me he knew how to do it.”
          So instead of making the poor kid learn stuff he’ll never use, why didn’t you explain how to use the calculator properly in future? It’s not the tool’s fault…
          I won’t repeat myself further; http://www.personalliberty.com/john-myers/the-false-hope-of-hi-tech/#comment-59450

          • American Citizen

            That’s the whole thing, they’re only as good as what the operator puts into them.

          • http://foobarfusion.com/ Jarrod

            True he needs to understand how to use the calculator and many times the weakest link is either the end user or the data entered. However, I feel that it is more important to understand first how the basics work. Then you can learn how to use the tools to make it more efficient.

            If you teach someone how to add parenthesis when they input the calculator instead of teaching them that you should multiply before you add, you are doing them a disservice in my opinion.

            Also, by learning the basics, you can grow to create software that can exercise data instead of just using the software to manipulate data.

          • DaveH

            I like your humility Jarrod. Maybe some of that might rub off on M.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          When I was in school, graduated in 1976, if you were caught using a calculator you got a detention. Now, If you dont have one, you get a detention. Its not hard to see why these kids running cash registers cant count change, they have to read the print out, and if that isnt working, they are just lost. Kind of sad that we are letting computers and electronics replace using our brains for so many things. They are a heck of an advantage on a lot of things, but they are totally destroying our kids ability to connect personally with one another, and basically dumbing down their brains. I see it all the time.

          • Lena

            We got calculators in high school. In Jr. High we had them to but they were forbidden unless the teach said so. Anytime before that was all just learning how to do everything by hand. It is only when you start getting into Math Pure 10-31 that you realize you couldn’t possible do it all by hand. You would maybe get through one question per class! Then there is university math. That is the real hard stuff.
            Maybe some school systems are different but in Canada they taught me how to count. I think those kids that can’t count the cash register are probably just lazy, like most of societies youngsters today. It is pretty easy to give people change. But when you mention this it makes me really worry about the education children are getting. School shouldn’t be something parents drop you off at just so they don’t have to deal with you all day. It should actually be useful. To expect a child to spend 8 hours a day in a school and then come home with mountains of homework is pretty much asking the kid to fail. I know if I was given home assignments after my 9 hour work day I would tell my bosses to go stuff themselves. Home schooling only requires something like 5 hour days, whereas you could spend that other 3 hours teaching the kid something useful about life. Like how to do the laundry, cook, tend the garden, whatever. I intend to homeschool my children. Teach them useful things with that spare time. Prepare them for real life. That is something public schooling never taught me.

        • coal miner

          Jarrod,

          Years ago we used to use sliderules for mathrmatical problems.Now I now use a scientific calculator to check my answers.I still do math the old fashion way.I love to do mathematicl puzzles.I learn how to do new mathe- matical problens such as decimals,Hexadecimals,octals and binaries.Thanks to a great learning tool,the modern calculator.It makes it easier to learn.

      • jim

        The technology is nice and I use it all the time, but we have become to relient on it. With a GPS why learn to read a map? The navy releys on GPS why learn to use a sextant. The Chinese have the ability to shoot down a satelite, GPS gone. We should learn the old way just in case.

        • M

          Nothing wrong with maps – or GPS for everyday use.
          What’s with this Chinese-o-phobia? It’s like the 50′s with reds-under-the-bed :-)

          • DaveH

            So when you cross a street you don’t look both ways because the cars will usually stop for you?
            Our higher intellect gives us the ability to think ahead and anticipate danger. Is there a problem with being prepared?

          • jim

            No it’s just it’s good to know the low tech way, in case the high tech breaks down. The emergency back-up plan.

      • http://foobarfusion.com/ Jarrod

        as another side note. The internet as a whole should never go down. The way it was designed by DARPA, even if top-level nodes are taken out the network will update itself with it’s nearest neighbors. It’s actually pretty cool to learn about. Your system can be cut off from the network, but the network itself is dynamic.

        • M

          Was :-( Large corporations are slowly destroying its ‘net-like’ topology, by bundling fiber into large ‘trunks’ which are cheaper. Fewer trunks, less resilience. Nowadays and increasingly, whole areas can be taken down if a trunk is severed.

      • http://Don'thaveone Sally

        True Beberoni. You won’t be able to buy anything or even get money out of the bank as it will shut down absolutely everything!!! If you want to try it out on a small scale, go into a 7-11 or any Convenience Store and when the ring up the sale, give them the amount so that you will get back like a whole dollar instead of change. This happend to me once and the fellow had cleared the register before looking to see what I got back and it took paper and pencil to give me back the correct change which was 1.00. Amazing because making change is the easiest thing in the world to do without mistakes.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          It is for us that were actually taught in school the principals of mathematics. Kids dont get that anymore, the calculator does the work. We are indeed dumbing down generation after generation of kids. Sure they know how to play on a computer, but without it, they cant function. Their personal skills are deteriorating, and without the calulator and computer to look stuff up for them, they dont have a clue what to do. Imagine after all the generations that actually know in their heads how to figure stuff are all gone, and all that is on the earth is the computer generation, then the electrical systems get knocked out that run them. Ooops, we got a problem Houston.

      • http://WindowsLive Iona Million

        Bravo!! My sentiments exactly!

    • Sam

      Like you I was also a “contractor” at one time, and also wound up being not only “the fixer,” but also the onsite computer instructor. However, BEFORE anything went into “the system,” many calculations and research was done by hand. Research because I found that much of the client’s information had not been entered by the employees (who did not know how to enter information). Calculations because Win95/Win98 had their “glitches,” as well as a number of softwares (Peachtree was notorious in this regard), and so I had to do a lot both in my head and on a ten-key to ensure that numbers were accurate. Even then, I did a lot of accounting by hand, because I wanted verifiable backup should numbers come into question.

      Computers are okay (heck, I’ve got a BSIT!), but many businesspeople need to understand that a computer is NOT their savior. In fact, given the cheap garbage coming from China, it’s more of an expensive nuisance. Many times I’ve seen small businesspeople struggle with Quickbooks, and wind up getting audited because they could not figure out what invoices went into what accounts. In fact, I constantly stress that businesspeople, especially small ones, should first learn to do accounting BY HAND, so that they can understand how the process is done, THEN move up to automating.

      Finally, people SHOULD learn to do things by hand and head first, then move up to a calculator. I don’t know about classrooms today, but when I had to take algebra, calculus, and statistics, I had to SHOW MY WORK. This not only forced me to think, but also proved useful when I had to take a number of tests in order to get a job (whether it’s taking a test for CPA, bookkeeper, or for a government job, you’re not allowed the use of aids like calculators or slide rules; all you’re allowed is good old pencil and paper).

  • http://www.easyinvest.co.za pete

    Hello John – I too am an old man and have been witness to all the great technological breakthroughs accomplished by mankind, but I really fail to see how hi tech is going to solve our problems of overpopulation, lack of clean water, dwindling resources and worst of all our attitude towards “what is really important in life.” My grandfather was a man who never drove a car, worked every day at the bakery from 3am until 12noon, lived in a small home without TV and died at 93 years and I never saw him unhappy or disagreeable. He had a great life as did his wife who died one year before him. They knew what life was all about – caring folks who respected man and beast and simply smiled at all the new technology with amusement. I think they were wiser than we are, and know for sure that they were stronger, more decent and more worthy of inhabiting this wonderful planet than the greedy folk who believe that there is no end to blind and ignorant consumerism, that man is so clever that there are no problems he can’t solve. Well I am probably a fool but as sure as God made little apples, there will come a time when that won’t be possible and in believing that, I am definitely a doomer and gloomer. We will not be the first civilization to see their behinds tacked to the wall! Hi tech and Wall street won’t cut it – nature will sort it out. Wait ‘n see!God bless and Happy New Year!

    • Lena

      Hey Pete,
      Your grandfather sounds like a great man. People today could still live the life and be happy the way he was. Society tries to brainwash you into thinking you need the best (most expensive) of the best. When in reality, the best things in life are free. Love, family, friends, a job you like (it doesn’t have to pay all that well!) People become caught up in the game and become greedy. Trying to make the most money no matter what it takes. Money is overrated. It changes people too. But you know what it was that taught me to appreciate the real things that make life worth living? Technology. You can almost see what is good and what is bad and the internet provides you with both outlooks. I have seen so many things online and read so much that I realize that it isn’t money that will make me happy. It is what I have in my heart. Whatever it is that makes you truly happy to be alive (and it never should be money.) That is what you live for. I would much rather love a man that had nothing, so long as he loved me than love a man that had everything but was too caught up in it that he never could actually “see” me for who I am. Call me a hopeless romantic but I would rather choose that way of life than become engulfed in the worlds fixation on superficial possessions.

      Happy New Years to you as well!

  • http://theonlinesmartshopper.com Ed Eismon

    This coming January I will have 77 new years under my belt, so I also have seen maney improvements to and for our living. But what will the average person do with with all this computer speed? If we find an use and produce a faster machine we will then send this technology to China. We won’t win that way.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      And all this technology we gave China, along with their technology, and Im sure they probably allready have it figured out how to shut down all our computers and electrical communications gadgets if they need to that would cripple our business, military, and personal communications and cause great damage. Im pretty sure being dependant on these electrical devices isnt the way it was intended for us to be.

      • M

        If the Chinese were to, then whose fault would it be if there was no counter-intelligence to prevent that scenario?
        Moreover, the Chinese hold one of the largest chunks of dollars overseas; nearly two trillion. The last thing they want to see is the US go down with their money!

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          That is exactly why they dont demand we pay them right now. It would skyrocket the value of their dollar, and all their cheap knick knacks they sell here would quadruple in cost, and no one here would buy them, and their economy would go to hell in a hand basket. You are correct.

          • Rod James

            Beberoni, For your information the Chinese have seen the state of the economies (US in particular) and are concentrating on other nations rather than rely on the US for their exports. The Chinese have also begun to develope their own economy buy improving infastructure, building for the future etc.and putting more and more to work giving
            them wages to spend.By creating improvements and creating employment they are stimulating the Real economy as public spending comprises 60 to 70 percent of an economy. The bail out in America should have been given to the US people to spend not to the _astards who caused the whole thing (eg:bonus’ to AIG,bankers and others)
            The Chinese economy is on of the only ones set to grow in the future(8% in 2010) and seeing as this growth heads to a certain place I have a wild speculation. What if in the future hyper inflation sets in in the US, we have massive unemployment,are bankrupt then we become a country that can produce things cheaply. This would mean that the two nations roles would be reversed and MADE in USA would mean cheap crap that we export to better off nations.This is quite a change from the 1960 when Made In USA meant the best and we were the largest manufacturer,exporter and creditor. As I have said before “The American Dream” has turned into the “American Nightmare” just look how far our Great Counrty has fallen since this “Golden Age” of the 60′s.
            Like all natural cycles China “BOOM BUBBLE” would burst&contract as mathematically these cycles can’t sustain themselves.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            No matter what your trying to get to, they still sell more stuff to us, and quite a bit more I might add, than all the other nations combined. So it is our buying from them that drives them, not what Spain, Germany and France buy.

          • DaveH

            Rod,
            If the bailout money wasn’t to be given to the Tards that caused the whole thing, then it certainly shouldn’t be given to grow government further. Their coercing of the banks to lend money to marginal borrowers was the main cause of the housing bubble.

          • Rod James

            Beberoni, What I am getting to is Chinas future is not with the US economy as it was.They were in a slump when their US exports went in the toilet. They diverisfied and took their eggs out of one basket. The
            US on the other hand will struggle just to stay afloat with the present system of proping up zombie banks and institutions with bail out funds and stimulus packages that we can’t afford.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Rod I agree about these banks and these bogus bailouts given to companies that dont know how to run a business. Why reward failure? Its not like anybody did anything to them to make them sink the ship. They did it to themselves, with corporate greed, union greed, putting out a product that they knew was inferior because nobody cared about quality, just sucking out more money. So why does our government pay them billions for that kind of behavior? Its so wrong. Its just so wrong. They will be right back sinking again, because they allready are wanting to write bonuses and the unions are allready wanting more of the money. Throwing good money after bad. What a shame. But the dems had to make sure they bought some future votes didnt they? I mean look at all the votes they have been buying for this health care thing? Its fricking criminal. If some corporation did crap like this, theyd all be in jail. Its just criminal, but you know, you get what you pay for. When America put a criminal from Illinois in the White House, and he assembled his Chicago thugs around him, did you all really think it would be any different? Come on man. Gotta help a brother out. Its criminal, thats all I can say. Just plain criminal.

  • M

    Part of the problem is that, as the writer said, or implied, most people use the technology to simulate an earlier one.
    The thinking is still in the last century, or even before that. Arthur C. Clarke; “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” Similarly, what seems to be a nonsensical proposition today, could be ordinary practice in the future. If you could go back to say 1510 and show people a working laptop, you would be most likely burned at the stake for Satanism. Our understanding has progressed, but progression is perhaps not as fast as we would like it to be. The fact of the matter is that the foundations are being laid, right now, for a world that we, in turn would not recognise, were we to live to see it.
    If there is one single error I see in the use of computers today, it is where people apply old, paper, or manual techniques along with new ones. Use either, not both – you are not doubling the workload, you are squaring it, otherwise..
    Computers can’t help? Computers are tools, if people don’t know how to use them correctly, there is no point blaming the tool. Large, complex problems will need powerful tools AND skilled users to solve them.
    And as for the Luddites? Let them be whatever they want to be; “Chance favours the prepared mind.” [Pasteur] They can discover what that means in relation to computing later on..

    • Rod James

      M, Well stated! I might add that technology is held back to a certain degree as a way to increase profit & sustain viability.Eg: Why market a new more powerfull central processor that you could install in your computer when you could sell a whole new powerfull system. There are plenty of examples of companies buying up patents and burrying them so as to keep selling the more profitable technology even if the patent is a better one. We have lived in the age of “Built in Obsolesence” for many years as well!

      • DaveH

        Rod,
        Cite me one example. I know there are plenty of Unban Legends, but I have yet heard one concrete example of a company doing that. Besides, patents usually run out after 20 years.
        It would make no sense for a company to sit on a superior technology unless perhaps they had a monopoly, which by the way is another Urban Legend as there has been no such animal except for those granted by the United States Government. In a free market (which currently doesn’t exist) there would always be competitors who would jump in on any gravy train that sprung up.

        • Rod James

          DaveH, Sorry I have checked my saved datta on a couple of concrete cases (in manufacturing)I read but I must have deleted them. I don’t blame you for wanting actual facts. I can give you an example in the service area as I deal with it regularly. A customer may get by with the part of a component but is sold the whole component as it is easier for the tech to install. This happens regularly in the auto repair buisness as well as it is easier and more profitable. The days of mechanics rebuilding components are long gone as they are labled techs and Im sure are not even trained in this area.

          • DaveH

            Yes, but Rod, that is just efficiency. It would take far more labor hours in most cases to repair the actual fault or to sell the minor components. I don’t blame them.

          • Rod James

            DaveH, I know there are labor reasons for some of these cases but I am talking about specific cases (with my employer) where it is better for our bottom line to install a new component.It is a very common practice in the service industry.

  • American Citizen

    Ed, I will see my 76th New Year’s Day and I said 53 years ago that TV would spoil our lives as we knew them. Sure enough, people stopped visiting one another, they had to stay home to watch the next episode of Gunsmoke or whatever sitcom they were in to. Kids became couch potatoes instead of going outdoors to play. We resisted getting a TV for a long time, but finally gave in. Even so, time in front of it was limited. I will say it’s a blessing, if you can find something worth watching, for those who are handicapped or elderly who are limited in their activities. Newspapers are becoming passe as people are getting their sanitized, cryptic news from biased reporters on TV. and so forth and so forth. Technology is not all it’s cracker up to be. It has it’s down side.

    • Sam

      Now it’s no longer television, but sitting in front of the computer.

      Kids today are involved in the latest computer games. They know which machines are the fastest, and even can custom build their own, using nothing more than a Phillips screwdriver. Yet for all their cleverness, the kids have lost, because they have no real hobbies that forces them to think, or that stretches their imagination. When I was a child, I had plastic models, model railroading, and scratchbuilding. I still do these today, although the audience has dramatically declined. In what I learned, I apply to everything else in life, and am the better off for it.

      Not that I am bashing computers. Through the Internet I earned two degrees (BSIT, MBA), and went to a REAL university, where my classmates included an entrepreneur living in Estonia, and a soldier serving in Afghanistan. It has helped educate people like me living in a remote area, to earn a living at my own business, and to even buy products that I could not find at any physical location. Yet, when free time comes, off goes the computer and telly (which is used for business-related information), and out come the small tools for the hobby. Or, for that matter, out comes a book. Or, playing with my pets. For, as Charlie Chaplin observed in “The Great Dictator,” machines have made people hard. I prefer to be a human.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        When I was 32, I worked a physical job of laying sod and seeding large areas of highway and bridges. I worked with a bunch of 18 year olds. Everyday about noon, the one, the owners son and his buddy would take off because they were tired, and they got away with it. That left me and one 18 year old boy. The dude would cry and bitch all day about how sore he was and how tired he was. I give him credit over the other two in that he would work all day, but Id have to look at him and tell him that he was crying to the wrong person, as at 32 years old it wasnt real easy for me to do this all day. He would say he didnt know how I did it. So I say to him, “What did you do all day, sit around and play nintendo when you were a kid?”. He’d look at me in amazement, and say “Yeah, why?”, like I was nuts or something. I had to explain that when we were children, we were outside playing ball and running from sun up to sun down, and we didnt spend much time inside at all, and thats why his generation is so soft, and the ones coming after them, each one, is getting softer and softer. The schools take any boy that shows any signs of testosterone, and put him on ritalin, and they are feminizing and dumbing down all of them, and thats a real problem. Couple that with sitting on their butts all day in front of video games and computers, and it wont be long until the average life span is going to be shortened 20 years from what it is now. Its quite a shame actually.

  • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

    Throughout history it seems that everybody always under estimates the American Society! Not that that is necessarily a good thing, but it is true, nonetheless! However, I do fear one thing. Although America started out as a sociological “Internal” society, feeling that it could control it’s destiny, so to speak; since the FDR new (raw?) deal, America has become an “External” society ready to follow anybody willing to lead. Unfortunately, that sociological personality in cultures has lead to Lenin’s, Stalin’s, Hitler’s, Mao Tse Tung’s, etc., etc. where many people have been murdered in the multi-millions from their leader’s delusions of Grandeur! Are we presently following that past. I fear that we are. I know that since FDR (about 1934) only individuals with an “External” personality type were allowed to become citizens, still true to this day, and quite easy to do! Knowing how successfully that America has used “Psychologist,” “Behavior Analyst’s,” etc., throughout history in the coarse of wars,etc.; this is what truly frightens me in the present era of man, not technology!

    • s c

      Victor, for those who aren’t familiar with the DESTRUCTIVE and UNCONSTITUTIONAL plans of FDR, this important information can be learned in as little as one day. Add 10 minutes of anything saul alinsky ever wrote, and you have comrade obama in a nutshell (he wasted his time in Haaavad).
      Put FDR, alinsky and comrade obama together, and you have a first-class plan for the destruction of America and a head start on the destruction of the rest of the world. It puts a entirely new twist on ‘progressive,’ doesn’t it?
      I didn’t get my ‘education’ in public school. I got my education IN SPITE OF public school. The difference between the two was INCREDIBLY ENLIGHTENING. If only others would do the same, and compensate for the 4 years of CRAP they learned the ‘easy way.’

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        People still dont get all the damning things that FDR did to this country, that we are still paying for today. The old school democrats consider him a hero that saved this country, when he was one of the biggest liars ever to sit in that office, and like I said, we are still paying for the crap he pulled. If someone wants to educate themselves to this, its all there if they look in the right places.

        • http://Don'thaveone Sally

          Can;t have any of the donkeys doing that Beberoni, then they would get a real education and become a Tea Party or a Republican. The one thing that FDR realy really did that has stuck even to this day and age is “The Democrates are the party of the working man” the Repuglicans are the party of the rich!!!!! I heard this all mylife and until I was in my late twenties and really took a good look at the world and platforms, then I realized what was really going on. Got my comupance in Panama when I lived there for eight years because of what was going on with that Government.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Unfortunately, my parents who are in their mid 80′s, are FDR democrats, and they still think that the Democrats are for the working man and that the Republicans are just for rich people. The actually believe what they hear on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC, as all they hear is republican bashing, and believing what they believe about democrats and republicans, thats what they want to hear. But they wont turn on FOX, because they tell me that “they are always talking about the democrats” on that channel. I try to inform them that maybe they should listen and research what they say, and if they find it to be true, maybe they should vote a different way. But people in that age group, they live in this comfort zone you see. They dont like to step out of it. Need everything to remain the same, and thats comforting to them. However, they are not getting the truth, and its sad.

        • DaveH
          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Good stuff Dave. Makes me think of the saying “If you dont learn from History, your doomed to repeat it”.

  • Kirk

    Does anyone remember billing errors or computer glitches that created mistakes without human intervention and how hard they were to correct and the computer somehow remained blameless. These mistakes could create large numbers of errors with much human intervention to correct and many hours and dollars lost. Now take an accountant or a payroll clerk and they make one mistake before computers. Did people take this personally? How was the person treated that made the mistake? This person may have made thousands of entries with one error in 10,000. Percentage wise this is acceptable. The error was usually corrected with one contact. The individual was treated poorly and ridiculed for the error. It seems as though we have accepted a different standard for computers than human beings.
    Remember when hanging up a phone on a person was rude. Now I dropped the call is acceptable. Remember when making a call on an inquiry took only a few minutes talking to a person with an action taking place that fixed what the call was about. Try calling a government agency with datria. Did not get that. My Wife was on the phone straightening out a billing error a week ago and it took 2 hours and 15 minutes. The phone company would have paid out more in wages than the error was worth. The good side is I can share this information with many in a short time.

    • Concerned Citizen

      This is exactly what I was talking about. It seems impossible to have any human contact at all. Especially in buiness. I am sure it is more effecient, but the “humanity” that was once this world have left the platform and is heading south.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Its causing big problems with the youths learning how to react and relate to each other. Big problems. Couple this with the breakdown of the family in America, and we are heading for big, big trouble, as these kids are our future.

    • M

      “errors or computer glitches that created mistakes without human intervention”

      Q: How was the computer designed?
      A: Humans.
      Q: How was it programmed?
      A: Humans.

      Did I leave anything out?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Who do they destroy, humans.

  • Big D

    I think what john was trying to say is that we as a society has put to much emphasis into technology and have forgotten how we got there in the first place. Yes, technology is a good thing and it has help better our lives, but we as a people have forgotten how to really work and earn what we have. This new revolution of computers and communication devices has made it easier and now we want it even though we can’t afford it. Society’s attitude now is,” I’ll get it now on credit, and worry about paying for it later.” No one is taking responsibility for their actions, especially for their debt, now enters government.

  • http://Don'thaveone Sally

    Victor you are so right. That is what I fear the most. That is the down side however, the up side is now with all the dilemas that we face with the current regime, we can copy and send out in a flash to our email groups who in turn send to their email buddies to spread the truth because believe me you certainly don’t hear the truth on TV or in the newspapers. I love these postings from Personal Liberty Digest mainly because of the comments on the various subjects. I m surprised we have not had something from them on the Christmas day flight to Detroit as I would love to see all the comments on that one and make a few of my own.

    • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

      Sally, I hear you, but I fear that the truth is bigger than all of us! I suppose everybody has the truth in their own mind, but the more information I learn, the more I realize that there is not much we can do, other than speak the truth as we know it! Although their are more of us than we think, I assure you that it is not yet enough to overcome the “power players” of this world at this time!

      • DaveH

        There is a lot we can do. Remember Victor that one of the most repressive regimes in history (USSR) changed almost overnight due to pressure from the citizens. And they were unarmed too.

  • s c

    Have you figured it out yet, folks? Comrade obama is a talking head. He’s an empty suit. He’s a faker AND a fraud.
    He’s doing to leadership, transparency and TALENT what al “keep me RICH” gore did to global warming. Both are full of it (define “it” any way you want).
    Comrade obama’s technology is all theory. It’s not even close to FACT. If we live long enough, if America stays together long enough (and we DON’T get stuck with more loser obamas), we might see some innovations in technology.
    He makes Wall Street hucksters and telemarketers seem like innocent babies. Let him move to China, so he can impress THEM with his NWO ‘talents.’

    • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

      That is probably exactly what they said about Hitler, or worse, Mao Tse Tung! Don’t ever under estimate the power given in this age to “Lucifer” (i.e., the first messiah!) and his followers! After all, he is the “God” of this age until the one chosen to replace him comes to do so!!! Soon, but not yet!

      • http://Don'thaveone Sally

        Amen Victor. On the one hand I fret for the younger generation, (not my family as we are all believers) but on the other hand I am joyous as we can all be home soon doing real work.

    • American Citizen

      Had him figured out before the election which is why I didn’t vote for him.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Obama is no leader, in no way, shape, or form. He is just a phony. The figurehead of the Democrat Party. He is like a puppet without strings on it. They tell him what to say, he says it, providing its written on his teleprompter. They tell he what to do, he does it. He is just the figure head. He is not intelligent enough to form ideas or plans, he just follows what ever those behind the scenes in the Democrat party tell him. That is why they are starting to distance themselves from him allready, as everything they are telling him to say and do, is blowing up in their faces, and to save their worthless hides, they will do what democrats do next election, and point the finger at him, I mean, because they cant point them at Bush anymore. Uh oh dems, maybe you should have formed a plan, instead of attack, attack, attack.

      • Rod James

        Beberoni, All President are “Figure Heads”

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          No, some actually have ideas and plans, and actually do what they say they are going to do. I know some of you dont like Bush, and thats your opinion that your entitled to, but here was a guy, who said he was going to do this and that and this and that, and then came in and did what he said he was going to do, then all the national press hammered him for it, and all the misinformed youth and uneducated people decided to vote for a guy that spent millions of dollars saying change change change. Lets review this. He said he was stopping the war. He is escalating it. He said he was going to save the economy. He has escalated unemployment from 4 percent to over 10 percent and rising. He said he was going to get a grip on spending and lambasted the previous administration for their spending, yet has spent more in one year than they did in 8 years. He said he was going to balance the budget, and has tripled the deficit. So I ask, how is that change? I think you guys were bamboozled.

          • Rod James

            Beberoni,
            Ya he is not doing a good job is he! All talk and no action!
            I meant who ever the President is at any given time he has orders to follow from stratagists, advisors, lobbyists etc.

          • Rod James

            I forgot to mention that as far as a “salesman” he ranks far ahead of Bush Jr. mainly because he can string a few words together rather well
            and “old George” had his foot in his mouth half the time.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            But old George spoke from the heart, and believed what he said, and really, he actually did what he said he was going to do, even if it wasnt popular, yet necessary for our country. Obama speaks as someone reading something. There is no belief in it, no conviction. Just empty words. And he doesnt do what he says. His think tank says just say it and they will buy into it, like they did with change, change, change. But I think America has learned now, as to what a snake oil salesmen he is.

  • Dan

    For a nation with our roots the goal of productivity has to be for God. If the wealth that is gained is continually stored up for only the benefit of the owner he is one who God calls a fool. Most people are storing up as much as they can toward the future. This has become the cardinal rule in capitalism. The new rule is that anyone who doesn’t store as much as he can for himself is thought of as a fool. And this has nothing to do with careful living, but with the purposes man makes that are in enmity with God. Bigger is not always better as more productivity will not solve the worlds ills unless it is used in a just manner and not hoarded. The bible is very clear about this if we are tuneing into it. Do we really believe what is says about the power to gain wealth. Look for yourself. Its there. Whether we recieve it or not is another question.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      A mans wealth is not determined by what he has gained, it is determined by what he freely gives away. That is wealth. It is written, “Do not lay up treasures on the earth, where moth and rust will destroy, and they will be left for someone else to enjoy”. Yet I see it all the time, the keep up with the Jones’s, the pursuit of material goods, and what I see, is that those people are pretty much the most miserable people I see on the face of the earth. Man cannot serve both God and money. Thats a fact. Its not bad to be wealthy at all, but not many can handle it. “Its easier to thread a camel through the eye of a needle, than it is for a rich man to inherit the Kingdom of Heaven”. This was written for a reason. Money corrups people pretty easily. It changes them, and makes them into a different person. Im thinking about now, at the age of 51, that God has blessed me so much in making me not be rich.

      • American Citizen

        I’ve always said that I don’t want to be rich and have all the headaches that come with it. The rich have major problems we middle class don’t have. First, how to acquire riches, then how to keep them, how to guard them, how to use them, etc. We’ve always earned enough to raise six children, have a decent roof over our heads, enough food on the table and decent clothing to wear. Also, enough after the children were grown and gone to put away/invest for retirement. We are living comfortable, not extravagantly now in retirement.

      • DaveH

        Beberoni,
        I have always thought Jesus leaned a little towards Socialism. I remember from my Catholic childhood the priests preaching to people about the evils of money and shortly after entreating them to donate generously to the church.
        But as long as it’s your own money you are giving up, that is fine. I do believe we don’t do anybody any favors if we help them so much as to spoil them. We need to carefully distinguish between accidental misfortune and that which was brought on by misguided lifestyles.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I fully agree Dave. Some folks are down and out because life smacked them around and it wasnt their fault. Im all for helping them, and I do quite often. But I dont agree with a government that forcefully takes from me, and gives it to whom they find deserving, because those that I see them give continual handouts to, year in and year out, arent doing anything to help themselves. They just stand their with their hands out. And I do notice, they always have money for alcohol and cigarettes. Something is wrong with this picture, and Im sick of it.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          And not to attack or lambast anyone, but as a Christian, who grew up in a predominately Catholic area, I have a lot of issues with what they do, and of a lot of the un-scriptural things they teach, and that is a totally different concept than Christianity. Also, Ive seen a lot of Southern Baptist, that are what is called “Legalistic” with their views, that drive people away. I have personally on vacation sat in some, that were yelling and screaming at people to come up front or they would burn in hell, and Im sorry, but the scriptures say the Gospel is to be administered in Love, and that is far from it. Its not supposed to be delivered in fear. People that do things out of fear dont mean it, but those that do things out of Love do mean it. See the difference?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Oh, and also Dave, as a Christian, Im going to be the first to tell you, that Im a stinking sinner. As long as Im wearing flesh, Im going to be a sinner. I dont want to be, but thats how it is. I fight it all I can, but Im human, and buddy let me tell you, sometimes my human emotions overrun what I know to be right, and I fall hard. There are many that think Christian’s are supposed to be perfect, and there are some who will tell you they are, but its not true. Only One was perfect, and thats the One I turn to for forgiveness when I pull my stupid human stuff. Like I said, I dont want to, but sorry folks, Im a human being, and we all are fallible.

          • DaveH

            All any of us can do is to make an honest effort to respect our fellow human being. I like the idea of treating others as you would like to be treated.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            And that is a good idea Dave, as what we call the Golden Rule, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, is straight from the Bible. It is a good measure for all to use, whether Christian or not, and the world would be a much better place for all of us, if we all did that.

  • charlie

    Sadly i agree that technology may not be our savior. This because whatever the technology is the politicians will FUBAR it.
    A few things are within reach already but will not be implemented.
    Hybird vehicles with lightweight batteries, economical solar power, new nuclear power plants. If you have read “Atlas Shrugged” then you understand the corruption of socialism and the lack of inovation.

    • M

      Orwell’s Animal Farm is useful too..

  • http://www.interconnectednessofallthings.com Richard Dunn

    I disagree that tech may not answer the proble, the question is will the idiots in washington obviate the problem with internationalist corrpution before the answer gets here.

    To the moron that writes this dung heap… the technological answer is…

    But before I write that I should have my onw column, anything is better than this… oh yeah.

    3D printing for manufacturing down to 10 angstroms an multiple materials, electronics, no problem, hard ware no problem, jet engine parts and refurbishing no problem, currently able to print up to the size [3D] of a truck size diesel block.

    Separately, now able to print (3D) blood vesels with movement toward organs.

    Please shut down your forum, stop preaching ignorance, I can’t stand the stupid. Just because you are dumber than a bosx of rocks do we all have to be retarded. You do know research, you make pronouncements for which you are obviously unqualified.

    And even now you apparently act as an internationalist… No Tarrifs… again constitutuional [READ IT]… and you beliee in allowing foreign parasites in when we cannot take care of our own, and allow the congress and senate to take foreign bribes.

    You are NOTHING! Greatness builds futures for all, as in the concept of statesmen, prasites canibalize the past without new effort work, because they cannot concieve original ideas.

    If someone with halff a brain wanted to get our economic show on the road, they would subsidize the inventors with outside review at the the patent attourney level, incarcerate patent attourneys who engage in theft, and lower the 5-15k per patent price for individuals, make ti mandatory that if a firm bought a patent to keep it off the market and did nothing with it for a year, it reverted automatically to the inventor [no market protection by subterfuge]. There is more, but I thingk I just ate your lunch, small man.

    I am an inventor, and I am dealing with a very large deal and due to the possible 500k salary cap, well… let us just say that IP [intellectual property] can be converted anywhere and in my book socialism is theft. I have a responsibility to try to provide jobs, however this stinking system always tries to throw me under the bus, it is corrupt and angels want 10 times the money they put in over 3-5 years, and vc want 30 times the money they put in over 10-12 years and I am supposed to get 3-6%.

    These numbers are real. Then I listen to these bone heads. Sir you are full of crepe

    Think about that printing, materials must improve but the idea. Why would you need China to make things. If this is outlandish, consider print on demand. We are already there. Printing objects wipes out most of the labor, and if the socialists want socialism, I don’t, well maybe this could make it more palatable, only why reward the retarded by allowing them infinite prgeny? Hell we have plenty of stupid people, I can almost sympathize with the big boys for wanting to wipe them out, they deserve it. Hell this is what is destroying California. Think about it.

    Rich

    • M

      Erm, spell-checkers work, for the most part, Richard.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        The dude was struggling, was he not?

    • Rod James

      (word removed) are you trying to say?!!!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Rod, what did you say?

  • Raggs

    Thechnology our savior?… Bah-hum-bug.
    Somebody has said obama is the savior..I don’t believe that either.
    Technology is a good thing, but it’s only a matter of time before the expansion of knowledge will be met with the limitations of humans.

    • M

      “Will be”?

  • American Citizen

    As I stated above, technology is only as good as the humans using it. I just heard today from an insurance salesman that Medicare inadvertently deleted 120,000 people from Medicare and a lot of these people do not know it yet. They’ll only find out when they use it. It includes not only Medicare, but their supplements and drug plans.

    And people think Congress should handle our healthcare? Who are the bigger idiots, Congresspersons or their constituents.?

    • Raggs

      Congress is betting the constituents are the lame ducks of course.
      And the concensus proves it. all one needs to do is turn on the boob tube CNN… And your statement was on target! As healthcare is concerned you bet obama will muck-it-up as we can see its all about greed and power. I think we all see the big power grab and control by the government course this country is heading for. The problem is… How do we stop it?.. Many feel as if a vote next year will fix the problem. I think it adds fuel to the fire not only that but I believe it is planned and controlled. Frankly speaking this will play rigth into obamas lap. he gets rid of the ones that oppose him. This is a very dangerous man he plays to win but not for America. Do you think that the democrats have no clue that they are going to be voted out? They have drones a model of themselves called republicans. All they need to do is “change” teams in mid stream…I hate that word.
      Healthcare is no more than a money grab and nothing less than a power hungry dictatorship / totalitarionship. Ultamitly the micromanagement of the US. This is the avenue of the mark of the beast. The control of life from birth until death with the government making all of the decisions.

      • American Citizen

        I think it’s time they pass a law that no congressperson can change their affiliation until after their term is up. They betray the people who elected them when they change during their tern.

      • Davila

        Congress is betting the constituents are the lame ducks of course.
        And the concensus proves it. all one needs to do is turn on the boob tube CNN… And your statement was on target! As healthcare is concerned you bet obama will muck-it-up as we can see its all about greed and power. I think we all see the big power grab and control by the government course this country is heading for. The problem is… How do we stop it?.. Many feel as if a vote next year will fix the problem. I think it adds fuel to the fire not only that but I believe it is planned and controlled. Frankly speaking this will play rigth into obamas lap. he gets rid of the ones that oppose him. This is a very dangerous man he plays to win but not for America. Do you think that the democrats have no clue that they are going to be voted out? They have drones a model of themselves called republicans. All they need to do is “change” teams in mid stream…I hate that word.
        Healthcare is no more than a money grab and nothing less than a power hungry dictatorship / totalitarionship. Ultamitly the micromanagement of the US. This is the avenue of the mark of the beast. The control of life from birth until death with the government making all of the decisions.

        That is true Raggs.
        Yet I think that we as a people still have some of our rights, they haven’t yet all been underscored. If anything positive shall come from the state we have blindly watched the Government put us in; the people will have to take a stand. We already are by communicating our thoughts, worries, and goals. I think that computers as well as anything can be used for the positive or the negative.

        This our chance to stand together, stand for our rights and attest to allowing someone else to be our dictator. We can do this we will. Lets stand together.

        Not forgetting or allowing those in control to disregard the source in which they gained their money or their “power” for the power is the people, not just one man. We have to have strength to do what is ahead of us; power comes from many and power can be exposed ‎and seized by those who allowed it to be in the hands of those in that position. We forget…who it is that has the power. Lets us our power to rightfully regain that which has nearly been stripped from our grasp.

  • philip mccormack

    Beberoni, You’ve got it right, our leaders are puppets. Obama 700 billions of taxpayers money to the banks, who since FDR have been running a Ponzi scheme so except for politicians and bureaucrats on indexed pensions,the rest of us have been scammed. our pensions an inflationary joke. Go to Professor Antal Fekete site you’ll get the truth, not a pack of lies like our mainline Federal Reserve economic lackeys give us on a daily basis. This guy should get a Nobel prize not Obama. Philip

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      The Fed. Those guys belong in jail is where they should be.

  • Robert

    Technology is a wonderful tool but if you do not understand the basics, you cannot tell if the output is correct. Today’s technology does in seconds what it took hours or days to calculate. But you had to know the basics to arrive at a correct answer. Today, computers spit out reams of information but it may not necessarily be correct. And the majority of people today take that output as totally correct.
    Because they don’t bother to learn the basics. Take a look at how the government reports on everything today. Prime example in not knowing the basics. If gasoline, food, healthcare, housing, taxes, etc. have all gone up this year, how do we then have 0 inflation? The computer says so. Thank god I don’t need technology to know when I got to crap.

  • coal miner

    Rod James,

    That was about time of Kennedy and Johnson .It was indeed the golden age of America.What happen?

  • jim

    Happy New Year everybody,celebrtate safely.

  • Davila

    I agree, we as a people really don’t earn a thing. Neither do we respect ourselves or our possessions. We have become a people who care not for responsibility. We have been taught that bankruptcy is a common thing to not even care about how it was created, how to prevent it and that we can easily erase dept.

    Yet that cannot be, where did the dept come from and who is at loss because of the irresponsibility? Some one will have to pay and soon the dept that has speedily grown is going to be paid.

    There will be a time that the chain of dept will be around all of our necks, the children will have to pay the price for the irresponsibility of their fathers, and no one will be able to hide from the punishment that this greedy nation is putting themselves in.

    We have caused it by not employing our own country, we have gone outside this nation to bring wealth to ourselves. We have skirted the taxes, we have empowered ourselves by stepping on others heads. We have become a very greedy, prideful nation no longer having pride or respect for the founders and suffering that brought us this freedom.

    Yet if we turn and face the cause of greatest dept by standing for our rights; stood together and stopped the continuation of the those we have hired to make laws for us. Just flat out fired those that greedily use our tax dollars for their own private use. If we reduce the amount of governmental positions to simple the bare minimum we could repay our dept. It may take time yet it would be achievable.

    We as a people will by standing together for freedom to choose as well as to speak, can either save ourselves or we will indubitably put ourselves into bondage. This is the big question…which will we as the employer of this nation choose?

  • Suzanne

    I totally agree with you about the lack of real news accessibility from the internet. Those of us who raised our children without an appreciation of the importance of sitting down with a daily newspaper have deprived society of the superior buttress against ignorance.

    • M

      I totally trust the newspapers and the media and believe everything they say – especially if it came from government sources, while distrusting anything I read, or see on the Internet.

  • Hugo Brandstetter

    Sex, economics, politics, education (in the broadest sense) are all interconnected. If we don’t understand how it is very easy to do dumb things. When you get down to it things are evil because they dumb to do. There is only one evil and that is doing dumb things which is very easy to do. My favorite mottoes–(We learn from our mistakes. I know more than anybody)(Experience is a good teacher but only a fool learns by it). I doubt we can change anyone by argument. But change biological opportunities and people will change themselves. Thus all change is method driven. Method required is a long story, too long for here but I do believe the method is within the technical competence of current chemists and biologists.

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