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The 1st Amendment And Truck Decorations

August 5, 2011 by  

The 1st Amendment And Truck Decorations

Let me be frank: Today’s column will discuss a pending obscenity case. A woman in South Carolina is facing a jury trial for choosing to decorate her truck with an object that the local police chief believes is obscene. The mainstream media would have you believe that, because the decoration in question could be construed as representing a part of the human anatomy, this story is merely funny or weird.

However, I feel that obscenity laws are like the Federal government’s own proverbial gateway drugs: First it makes obscenity laws, then there is systemic censorship, then the Constitution is being rewritten to leave out the 1st Amendment altogether… and that’s the day we wake up in Oceania, having always been at war with Eastasia.

The facts of the case, according to the Fox News article I’ve linked to above, are simple: “On July 5, Virginia Tice, 65, from Bonneau, S.C. pulled her pickup truck into a local gas station with red, fake testicles dangling from the trailer hitch. The town’s police chief, Franco Fuda, pulled up and asked her to remove the plastic testicles. When she refused, he wrote her a $445 ticket saying that she violated South Carolina’s obscene bumper sticker law.”

Tice found a lawyer, and was reportedly going to challenge Fuda in court — until the police chief beat her to the punch: “Fuda says he is pushing for a jury trial and hopes the outcome will clarify the state’s obscenity laws, leaving no room for misinterpretation.”

According to an article for WCSC TV in Charleston, S.C., “The South Carolina code of laws says ‘a sticker, decal or emblem is indecent when it describes, in a patently offensive way… sexual acts, excretory functions or parts of the human body.’”

“Genitalia is offensive,” Fuda said in an interview with the TV station. “As a law enforcement officer, I’ll advise that person if it warrants a citation I’ll issue a citation. As a father, I wouldn’t want my daughter looking at it.”

David Hudson, a 1st Amendment attorney and scholar, told Fox News that Tice could make a good case for challenging the law, because it is “unconstitutionally vague and unconstitutionally [broad], and it violates the First Amendment.”

The United States Supreme Court has an established standard for determining obscenity, called the Miller test, or the Three Prong Obscenity Test, as decided by Miller v. California in 1973. According to the Federal Communications Commission, the test is applied as follows to determine if the given material is obscene:

  • An average person, applying contemporary community standards, must find that the material, as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest;
  • The material must depict or describe, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by applicable law; and
  • The material, taken as a whole, must lack serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value.

Would the average person in South Carolina find that the decoration in question appeals to the prurient interest, or rather, appeals to or arouses sexual desire? Note, the decoration in question is meant to depict the genitalia of a bull.

Does the decoration in question depict any sexual conduct specifically defined by applicable law? In fact, what laws regarding sexual conduct are applicable here?

Does the decoration lack serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value? This would seem to be a sticking point. After all, what “serious” value does this decoration hold?

In another obscenity-related court case from earlier this year, Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Association, the Supreme Court struck down a California law that prohibited the sale or rental of violent video games to minors — games that the State had found to have no serious artistic value. Part of the court’s opinion read: “Under our Constitution, ‘esthetic and moral judgments about art and literature… are for the individual to make, not for the Government to decree, even with the mandate or approval of a majority.’”

Censorship always saddens me, but to see it in South Carolina — a State that has openly displayed its devotion to freedom on many occasions — is quite depressing. I would not decorate my vehicle the way Tice did, but that is my choice.

Remember: The 1st Amendment, when correctly applied, should make us uncomfortable — because it applies to everyone.

 

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • DaveH

    How do you determine if a girl is ticklish?
    Give her a Test Tickle.

    • granny mae

      DaveH,

      I guess I’m a bad granny, because I’m strictly a Christian, but that was funny ! LOL ! Now as for this law suit; I have just come to realize that for some reason that particular item , hanging from the bottom of a truck or what ever seems to be a fad and like all fads it will go away in time if people just don’t pay any attention to it ! As for the mans daughters having to look at it, they may not even know what it is or even care. I didn’t know what it was and didn’t even notice it until my husband saw it on a truck at the grocery store and started laughing about it. He thought it was funny. I asked him what he was laughing about and he told me ! At first I was in dis-belief and then I thought it was grose, kind of like wearing a rabbit foot on a chain around ones neck. Then I just forgot about it mainly because if a person doesn’t know what it is they could care less that there was something hanging from the bottom of that truck ! Unless this police chief plans on following his daughter around all her life and covering her eyes at everything he doesn’t think she should see, then I’m afraid his daughter is going to see plenty right in the text books at school. He better not let her go in the school library and look at the National Geographic magazine !
      Just much to-do about nothing !

      • DaveH

        I agree, Granny. Despite the joke, I do think the visual image of her ornaments is gross. But if we banned everything we think is gross, Walmart would have to shut its doors.
        For those who don’t know what I’m talking about:
        http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/photos/page/2

        • Al Sieber

          Pretty gross Dave, that woke me up.

        • http://www.easyinvest.co.za peter

          Thanks DaveH that was really funny – made my day!

          • eddie47d

            Where’s the bouncing breasts in the back window? How about welding a pole in the middle of the pick up so someone can practice their “dancing”. Will it offend? Probably and it will come down to how much we will tolerate. Should these things be banned? Probably not for they will soon get tired of making a fool out of themselves.

          • Jana

            They are actually supposed to be from a pig’s body parts. Sounds weird to me!

          • independant thinker

            I have always heard and seen them refered to as “Bulls Balls”. I think they are kinda humorous short term but overall rather dumb.

          • denniso

            Just so people know,it’s mostly rightwing Christian ‘conservatives’ who are behind obscenity laws…the whole family values crowd. But,if we have any of those laws at all then it does become difficult to know where to draw the line…should we have no movie rating system? Should 5 yrs olds be allowed to watch porn in a theater w/ an adult? How about little kids allowed to watch the most violent and gory films? I’ts easy to say we should have no obscenity laws,but more difficult to deal w/ the result. Most Liberals fall on the side of freedom of speech and support art,movies,books,theatre, that most rightwingers want banned…that’s part of being liberal. But most would also say that we should draw the line when it comes to underage kids.

          • JC

            Wow denniso, must be great to be a liberal…except maybe for all that being a thief and complete insanity part I mean…

          • denniso

            Great to see that you still can’t speak a cogent thought or manage a comment w/ any substance.

          • DaveH

            “Most Liberals fall on the side of freedom of speech”?
            Sure, Denniso. How do you explain their embracing of the Campaign Finance Reform laws which are directly against Freedom of Speech? Or the Fairness Doctrine which Liberals loved, and are now being reincarnated by Liberals under the label of Media Diversity.
            From the Horses’ mouths:
            http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2007/06/talk_radio.html

            These guys want to Control talk radio. How much more anti-freedom-of-speech can anybody get?

            Now I sit back and wait for Denniso’s typical rabid rebut.

          • DaveH

            Here’s another example of Denniso’s Liberals in action (the police, not the victims):
            http://healthfreedoms.org/2011/08/03/rawsome-foods-swat-style-multi-agency-raid-3-arrests-protest/

            Heaven forbid that people should be able to choose what they want to put in their own bodies.

          • DaveH

            And don’t get me wrong, do-gooders on BOTH sides of the fence have brought us to this point.

          • bob wire

            It’s only a “boy truck” ~ LOL! it’s a stab at humor. ~ We do gender object and things. ~ The Spanish language itself is heavily gendered. I don’t know if that’s due a Latin influence or not?

            Ships are Females and commonly referred to as a “her” or “she” . The ocean is a “she”, she will swallow you up. Mother Earth? I’ve never heard of Father earth. I suppose it was Hitler’s crowd that coined the phrase “father land” because it’s usually “mother land”

            This thread might be addressing an attack on 1st “Amendment Rights” but the incident in question is purely small town USA intolerance and someone of authority with too much spare time on their hands.

            and I think we are kicking a dead horse because this won’t change until the good towns people that practice intolerance take a dirt nap. It’s hard to change old habits, more times then not the host has to die.

          • bob wire

            Well Dave, I tend to think the left views Talk Radio as something that must be challenged or restrained for the sake of offering balance while your point is well made.

            “While progressive talk is making inroads on commercial stations, conservative talk continues to be pushed out over the airwaves in greater multiples of hours than progressive talk is broadcast.”

            Left to “fight the fight” or ignore they have chosen to approach it from the top down via legislation for the better or worse of it.

            The left sees itself losing this battle by shear numbers. Radio is cheaper then visual media and the right has doubled down in this media format.

            I don’t believe the left wants this fight and would prefer to simple stop it.

            Now if you believe this is an attempt to crush 1st amendment rights, you have a point. But like Cambodia, a place from where annoying attacks were constantly staged and launched yet we did not wish to engage Cambodia in military conflict but clean house and stop the attacks.

            The left is not coming after rights but Rush.

            and if you notice, they haven’t been very successful with it and have begun to accepted it as another media playing field and a place to invest money.

          • DaveH

            The left can’t get their message out in a voluntary markeplace, Bob Wire, because most of their ideas have no logical legs, thus can’t draw enough listeners to support them. Air America is a good example. Without the support of Government those kinds of formats just aren’t successful.
            So the left must use the force of Government to silence their opposition. That’s what Media Diversity is all about. They aren’t trying to open the market for Liberal ideas, rather they are trying to close the market for Conservative ideas.
            The only way that Liberal ideas can survive is to create a vacuum of knowledge. The Socialist ways of Liberals (and I include many if not most Republicans under the Liberal banner) have been proven to be failures throughout the world. If we can’t learn by experience, then we can’t learn at all.

        • Mike in MI

          Hey, Dave – Love puns! Give it a GOL – “groan out loud”.
          Maybe this topic is one of the reasons gubermint wants to rid us of the reciprocating engine. I mean…really, 4, 6, or 8 of those gang bangers all going at once? GROSS! GROSSS! GROSSSSS! Honestly, electrics are so much more…more…LIBERAL. Don’t you think?
          And anything with a two cycle…HonestlY – how terribly suggestive. They’ll no doubt require KYJelly in there next.
          OH-H-h-h My,…and those horrid backfires recips are prone to. Disgussetting! Don’cha know the awful things get (whisper – g.a.a.s.s).
          This could only happen to So. Caroline! I mean, any state sending Lindsay Graham to Congress over and over hasn’t a gra’m of sense. THAT”S obscene! And, talk about Rhino’s … have you ever seen those awfull things they have on their snouts? A-A-A-agh-h-h-h, BAWD.. really BAWD.
          OK, phallus and gals its time to quit.
          Don’t get caught at whatever you do. If it’s to the right – -it’s wrong!

        • Nadzieja Batki

          I think the sheriff was just jealous that the ones hanging from the truck were bigger than his.

          • Wapitiman

            …and they weren’t blue !

        • Void1972

          Dave
          I will guarantee you that the women with the code pink panties is a liberal. She definitely voted for obama, and her name is Denniso!

        • bob wire

          all good points Davy but I wouldn’t describe right wing radio as voluntary.

          That a money trail or preferred status or personal favors has been cloaked or hidden that connecting two ends doesn’t mean that they don’t exist.

          While it true ,the lefts approach is indeed more transparent.

          That corporate America is up to it’s eye balls in today’s political affair is no secret and they do finance their initiatives to affect change and the will of the people. It it not the market forces of supply and demand that keep Rush or even Glenn Beck afloat but special interest money. In that light, how might you suggest it’s “voluntary”? By whom?

          The left don’t see it’s self as attacking first amendment right but defending it’s self against paid mercenaries attackers (cloaked as individuals) that hide behind the 1st amendment and attack via public radio.

          I don’t have a strong bias in this matter myself. Whatever is takes to get wealthy people to spend money without “willfully” harming anyone, can’t be all bad. Allow us to bleed them out like the powers in Iraq bleed down America. It a very slow process but it does work.

          The problem before us today Dav is, If you throw a sink at me and I throw a stove at you, are we even? I’d say No! You are going to come at me with a hot tub.

          It’s a game with no end. The “left” elected to simply ignore these attacks for several years but in the last few years have came to the conclusion that they can no longer ignore it as today, even someone as bright as you has been made a disciple of the extreme far right from years and year of this ranting inflammatory commentary offering buckets of false information laced with small traces of the truth opposing all matters and initiatives is a perfunctory manner.

          As you tell me Dave, the Left does even have a leg top stand on, tell me that you have been bitten by a werewolf and have mutated beyond rational thought if you truly believe such a statement.

          • DaveH

            Bob Wire,
            Voluntary because nobody has to pay for it against their will. Unlike the Liberal formats which go begging to Government to get their taxpayer funding.
            You can doublespeak all you want, Bob, but the Conservative stations have listeners, the Liberal stations don’t.

      • Dan az

        What next make the animals start wearing diapers?After reading this it just reminded me of how absurd the calif.laws were.Sounds like this guy was from there.It dosn’t bother them to call us tea baggers but when it comes to show and tell they seem to have a problem with that.This is how we all lose our freedoms because of the few that feel they are offended if their own little minds.The first time I saw it on a hitch I crinched but then I realized that she got the truck and he got the mini van after the divorce and just felt sorry for the guy.

        Dave I could of gone all day with out that picture burned into my eyes gee thanks allot :)

        • DaveH

          Sorry, Dan.

        • justice1st

          Are we just animals? That’s one of the biggest problems in our country today. We are taught that we just eveolved from animals, therefore we start acting like them. My Bible tells me that God created the animals just like they are, so let them be. It also tells me that God created man in the image of Himself. Is this why we don’t repect God anymore?

          • justice1st

            p.s. God, Himself, also clothed the first two humans after they sinned & condemns the nakedness of the human body, regardless of where it is, in art or elsewhere.

          • Mike in MI

            inJustice1 -
            Religious nut! He couldn’t have been too perturbed about it for the reason you suppose.
            If you learn some truth and figure it out ACCURATELY instead of flying to some nutty assumption you might learn that they existed in the garden in the nude for about 140 years before they were expelled for following the Serpent’s line of hogwash. Besides that if God didn’t like them that way why were they made, formed and created in that particular model.
            So dump your line of hogwash. Some people make God look as silly as they are.

          • Erik

            Thanks! It’s always good to hear from the deranged bible fanatics.
            Let’s pray to magic Jeebus; that will fix everything!

          • justice1st

            To Mike in MI,
            Glad you know Bible history so well that you can tell us how long they were in the garden before God clothed them! You might be surprised to note that I stated “after they sinned”, and it was that very night! No one walking this earth has been perfect since, except Jesus Christ and He was clothed anyway.

          • denniso

            The Garden of Eden story is just a quaint myth like so many 1000′s of others. What was the sin? Eating from the apple of good and evil….come on now,isn’t that pretty obviously a little kid’s fairytale? I think that it is more like a metaphor for the first humans gaining a human-like consiousness,thus opening up human activity to both evil and good,as no other animals have. We are the only ones able to make consious decisions that carry evil w/ them. That’s what the apple myth is trying to say. The Garden of Eden is actually the entire earth before the arrival of humans,through evolution of course,who had the power of their minds to change the entire dynamic of the planet. No other creature could or can willfully do that.

          • denniso

            Justice1st…We are animals,just quite different from all the others on the planet.Still,aside from our intellect(at least some of us)we are very much the same as them.
            I realize there are people who are afraid of the facts,but do you have to go off into never never land?

          • DaveH

            The difference between us and the animals? Intelligence. Now how about showing some, Denniso?

          • Jay

            denniso: Eating from the apple of good and evil….come on now,isn’t that pretty obviously a little kid’s fairytale? I think that it is more like a metaphor for the first humans gaining a human-like consiousness,thus opening up human activity to both evil and good,as no other animals have.

            Good and evil does not mean good plus evil, but rather, the sum total of all human possibilities. Another words, we were meant to experience all; murder, theft, lying, stealing, coveting your neighbour’s wife, drug addiction ect… hence, the laws, or commandments, which are nothing more than warning signs, or borders, fences, and that, for our own protection, and safety, as well, for societal stability!

          • Jay

            Correction: Another words, we were NOT meant to experience all;

      • Bear

        DavidH is spot on. Seems like this police chief has way too much time on his hands. Doesn’t his small town have any REAL crime to fight? I’ve seen these bull balls hanging from trailer hitches in the past and simpley regard them as………………….oh well, you know. Some people have questionable class. On the other hand, freedom of expression is one of our constitutional rights. Not really sure what this person is trying to express, but the right to do so is there. The police chief’s daughter probably could tell her dad a few things that would curl his hair, truth be known. Today’s school are very open about everything. He needs to get a grip.

        • Vagabond

          actualy Bear he needs to get a new job. and I agree his daughter could tell him things that would curl his hair. just as so many kide today can,

          • Rick

            Once apon a time we were a sane nation. We had obsenity laws. They are not opressive, except to the degenerate who might think it is cute because they have lost their sense of perspective of humanbeings and sexuality. Now our nation is no longer sane or respect the worth of humans & sexuality. They can’t see the degrading power of the hardness of heart they show. Few seen to have the sensitivity or heart human should have toward each other. This is why we have this state of insanity and don’t know the worth of being human anymore. We need to humble ourselves, repent of our sin & foolishness and get a real life. We need to respect God’s intent for people & the strong influence of sexuality & its imiges on our lives.

        • DaveH

          You’re right, Bear. The wildest girls I knew were preachers’ daughters and cops’ daughters.

          • Robert Smith

            And then there is Brystol where abstinance didn’t work at all.

            Rob

          • DaveH

            Please explain to me, Robert, why Liberals, who openly champion sexual deviance and promiscuity, would come down so hard on a girl who basically just took their advice?
            That is why people find it hard to take you Liberals at face value. Your principles turn on a dime depending entirely on Party politics.
            I suspect the truth is that the environment, free sex, and various other Liberal stated beliefs are just a mask for the real Liberal Goal — Redistribution of Wealth.

          • Jay

            I think that one was a bulls-eye Dave! Your a pretty good sniper, if I do say so myself!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            DaveH,
            It’s really quite easy to explain. The libbies have always believed in a “Do as I say, not as I do” type world!! they don’t believe they should have to set the standard by THEIR actions! they should get a couple hundred “do overs” but not anyone else!!

          • Tom B

            The reason people come down on Bristol Palin and her sainted mother is that they themselves don’t practice what they preach.

        • Christin

          Bear,

          Just goes to show us all that the ‘police state’ is everywhere in the good ole US of A.

          Police should find some real criminals or go get a doughnut shop for goodness sake, and leave the good and sometimes questionable taste of some of the citizenry alone!

          • Robert Smith

            Almost got arrested last week myself.

            Bought a big box of dognut holes and put them on top of the car to unlock the door. Somehow they got left on the roof. I’m getting old.

            I went around a corner and wouldn’t you know… The darn things splashed all over the road.

            They wanted to arrest me for chumming for police.

            Rob

          • Jay

            Robert, I hope people don’t start thinking that i’m cozing-up to you, but that was a damn good one! LOL!

        • Rick

          Nothing is sacred or respected anymore. We need to have some moral & sexual values. I not happy with the increasing perversion & the hurt to the esteam of humans it is causing. Let us respect each other by not unnessarily exposing ourselves & others to the strong influences of graphic sexual imagry which only degrades the wonderful gift of sexuality God has given.

          • Robert Smith

            If we are created in your god’s image why do you object to admiring his work?

            Rob

          • Jay

            Nothing wrong with admiring God’s handy-work, Robert, however, we should maintain some level of decorum. I think that is what Rick was suggesting.

      • Holly Marcyoniak

        YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY WISE. THIS IS MUCH-TO-DO- ABOUT “NOTHING.”

      • JeffH

        granny mae, gotta agree with both you and DaveH. I’ve seen those types of “hangers” and worse a few ,or should I say very few, times and although not repulsed by them thought they were a bit of juvenile humor. But I do realize it’s a matter of “each to his own”…whatever “floats your boat”, “live and let live”.
        As what seems to be the case more and more, the slow erosion of our liberty and freedom is taking place. It’s up to us, we the people, to put a stop to all of this “government” intervention in our personal lives. Looking forward to 2012.

      • JC

        Truck Nuts are just plain “in bad taste”.
        If we’re going to ban that…let’s start with Obama.

        • Robert Smith

          Actually most truck owners I know have NRA stickers on the back window, etc.

          IOW it’s generally conservatives who own trucks. The liberals I know generally drive econoboxes that get 30 mpg or better.

          Rob

          • DaveH

            That’s your choice, Robert. Don’t force your choices on the rest of us.

            Speaking of Conservation, why aren’t you guys all over Al Gore, or Nancy Pelosi, or Barbara Streisand, or the many other prominent Liberal energy wasters?

          • Void1972

            Robert
            LOLOL, chumming for police, that was very funny.

          • Jay

            Most liberals are well known to prefer limousines to econo-boxes! Case in point, the trip by european delegates to Copenhagen climate summit.

            On a normal day, Majken Friss Jorgensen, managing director of Copenhagen’s biggest limousine company, says her firm has twelve vehicles on the road. During the “summit to save the world”, which opens here tomorrow, she will have 200.
            “We thought they were not going to have many cars, due to it being a climate convention,” she says. “But it seems that somebody last week looked at the weather report.”
            Ms Jorgensen reckons that between her and her rivals the total number of limos in Copenhagen next week has already broken the 1,200 barrier. The French alone rang up on Thursday and ordered another 42. “We haven’t got enough limos in the country to fulfil the demand,” she says. “We’re having to drive them in hundreds of miles from Germany and Sweden.”
            And the total number of electric cars or hybrids among that number? “Five,” says Ms Jorgensen. “The government has some alternative fuel cars but the rest will be petrol or diesel. We don’t have any hybrids in Denmark, unfortunately, due to the extreme taxes on those cars. It makes no sense at all, but it’s very Danish.”

            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/6736517/Copenhagen-climate-summit-1200-limos-140-private-planes-and-caviar-wedges.html

      • http://yahoo john

        In regards to the balls on the truck. Back in the horse and buggy days when the whole family went to town, what was right in front of them? The horses balls. What it represents is that your truck is your horse and buggy or whatever 4 wheel device a horse would pull, but in todays world its your truck, your truck is your horse. plain and simple so get use to it, they did back in the day. Its not a sexual image as many think. Have a set on my own truck and get more laughs then disapointed faces in my rear view mirror.

    • alex

      the people that filed this charge probably dont have any testicles so they don’t want to be reminded

      • http://?? Joe H.

        alex,
        They’ve probably got wives like Peelousy and have been de-nutted!!!

    • Push comes to Shove

      I would like to know, when the rancher hauls his cattle down the road to the slaughter house does he have to put underwear on them so thier bull balls are not swaying in front of some womans or childs line of site?

      I have seen those ornaments here in Texas too, as a christian i think it is funny, crude but funny. Hey it’s just nature. BTW i have seen people wearing T-shirts and pants that have things on them that can be condisered much more offensive than that. How about girls wearing pants with ‘Bit%$’ written on the backside?

    • Robert Smith

      “Give her a Test Tickle.”

      Elmo appreciates that too.

      Rob

  • s c

    The ornaments on that pickup wouldn’t offend me. If I felt obligated to ‘explain’ it to someone, I’d just say this is what Americans have lost over the years.
    It might offend America’s hordes of mental castrati, but 99% of what they think is usually irrelevant. Besides, a pickup truck is a lot more American than
    a garden variety useful idiot. There’s just too many tightly-wrapped people in South Carolina (I didn’t know pc Nazis had invaded that part of the country).

    • Karolyn

      S C – “There’s just too many tightly-wrapped people in South Carolina (I didn’t know pc Nazis had invaded that part of the country).”

      You are definitely wrong about that, S C. Maybe in that part of the state, which I know nothing abut. The general mentality is very accepting and independent. As Granny said, it’s a fad. I think I saw it on a truck a couple of years ago and didn’t even give it a second thought other than shaking my head.

      • Scott

        Most of the South Carolinians I know are laid back open minded people. Riding through Chesterfield, SC the other day I saw a bumper sticker that said, “If you are riding my ass you better be pulling my hair”. Wonder what the sheriff thinks of that.

        • Karolyn

          Chesterfield? You are kidding me! I live very close to Chesterfield! Actually, it’s the closest town. I’m sure our sheriff could care less about bumper stickers and neither would the Chesterfield Chief.

          • Scott

            Yep, actually I live between Chesterfield and Patrick. My brother and I are trying to get a small farming operation up and going along with all the wild game at least we’ll have something to eat.

    • DaveH
  • http://deleted Claire

    The only bumper sticker I have is: My dog is smarter than your honor student.” And truthfully I believe this–especially from what I see and hear anymore.

    • independant thinker

      I don’t have bumper stickers per-say but do have several maganets promoting spay and neuter for your dogs and cats and reporting animal abuse.

    • JeffH

      Claire, so true. I had a bumper sticker on my old 1991 Escort wagon that said: “My other gun is a Benelli Super Black Eagle”

  • DLP

    I’m surprised a more conservative writer like Bob Livingston doesn’t know his Constitution any better. Rulings of modern liberal courts not withstanding, the 1st Amendment was meant to protect POLITICAL free speech, not the sorts of perversions it’s been used to protect for decades. Early court rulings affirmed that view. Like everything else nowadays being 180 degrees backwards, you see widespread attempts to stifle political free speech, from McCain-Feingold to more recent efforts to shut up opposing views, while that which the 1st Amendment was not meant to protect being trumpeted from the mountain tops.

    • DaveH

      Oh, is that right? And you get that from where?
      Funny that the Liberals think the First Amendment only applies to political speech but then go ballistic when the Supreme Court rules that Campaign advertising can’t be limited.
      http://blog.mises.org/11512/left-liberals-on-free-speech-and-finance-campaign-laws/
      They will chip away at our rights every way they can, but never forget that their ultimate goal is the complete destruction of our rights.

    • DaveH

      And remember that the Supreme Court is a branch of the Federal Government. Their rulings are not necessarily gospel. Their tendency is to rubber-stamp anything their gang (the Federal Government) dictates. In fact, I know of no instances where the Supreme Court has overturned a significant Federal Law.
      All one needs do is look at the Supreme Courts abuse of the Commerce Clause to realize that they are not interested in strictly enforcing the Constitution:
      http://www.thelandofthefree.net/conservativeopinion/2009/07/18/the-supreme-court-and-the-commerce-clause/

      • James

        DaveH, Five of FDR’s huge programs to natinalize the economy were held unconstitutional. The Agriculture Adjustment Act was held unconstitutional in United States v. Butler (1935).

        • DaveH

          James,
          Yeah, the DC decision was recent enough I should have remembered that.
          According to this person there have been quite a few, but still the percentage of Federal Laws declared unconstitutional are small compared to State and Local laws, at least according to this person’s list:
          http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_laws_has_the_US_Supreme_Court_declared_unconstitutional

          • James

            DaveH, When you say ‘State and Local laws,’ were held unconstitutional, were you referring to the U.S. Constitution or State constitutions? Just last year, in McDonald v. Chicago, the High Court held a Chicago area ordinance had violated the right of Illinoians to keep and bear a handgun (an extension of Heller, concerning our right to bear arms) but no State law has ever been held in violation of the U.S. Constitution.

          • DaveH

            Are you the same James that argued with me last year stating that the 2nd Amendment only applied to the Federal Government?

            Did you read the link? I wasn’t talking about any specific Constitutional laws. Are you one of those guys who just likes to argue?

          • James

            DaveH, Your link is confused. If 935 State laws and 222 City Ordinances were held unconstitutional, it wasn’t so declared by the U.S. Supreme Court. It would have been by State Supreme Courts. State government powers and federal government powers are two different things. The powers DELEGATED to the federal gov’t. in Article I, Section 8, were given up by the States when they created the federal government (see the 10th Amendment).
            You don’t seem to know that States have constitutions, governors, legislative bodies and judicial systems. And yes, I’m the ‘James’ that argued the 2nd Amendment does not apply to the States. In McDonald v. Chicago, the Supreme Court didn’t say the Chicago ordinance violated the 2nd Amendment, it said the ordinance violated the ‘liberty’ that all Americans have, which includes the right to bear arms.

          • James

            DaveH, I have a question: If the Illinois Constitution, Article I, Section 22 reads: “Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed,” and the Second Amendment reads as it does, which do you think applies to the Illinois Legislature?

      • James

        In District of Columbia v. Heller (2008), the High Court held a D.C. ordinance, which had banned possession of a handgun, in violation of a person’s right to keep and bear arms. That ordinance fell under federall jurisdiction and the Court struck it down.

      • Dan az

        They would have you to believe that the judge has the last say so but this is not true it is up to the jury to make this decision not him.Its called nullification and that is where this kind of crap needs to stop and its our duty to use it.
        http://fija.org/

        • James

          Dan az, The U.S. Supreme Court is not a trial court, it’s an Appeals Court. Federal District Courts are trial courts, with juries. If a District Court decision is appealed, it goes to one of the Circuit Courts of Appeals, then if further appeaaled to the Supreme Court.

    • TIME

      DLP,

      Perhaps you should point out what you think by way of first posting the First Amendment.
      Then point out where you get your Pretzel logic from within the noted 1st Amendment.

    • Vicki

      DLP writes:
      “the 1st Amendment was meant to protect POLITICAL free speech”

      And why do you think that showing that her truck had more balls than Congress (with respect to the debt for instance) is NOT political satire and therefor protected even under your rather restricted meaning of the first?

      I also note that the word political was well known to the writers of the Constitution. If they had meant free POLITICAL speech they would have said so.

      Origin of POLITICAL
      Latin politicus
      First Known Use: 1551
      http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/political?show=0&t=1312568826

    • Rick

      Amen brother, the first ammendment is not to protect our right to demaean society with degeneracy & offensivness. It is to protect our right to speak politically & religiously; not to protect anyones lowlife behaviour.

      • Vicki

        Since some political speech is offensive and since some religious expression may be offensive to someone it is VERY unlikely that the founders meant anything other than exactly what they said. “Freedom of SPEECH”.

      • DaveH

        Rick,
        Vicki touched on something there that you should think about when she said “some religious expression may be offensive”.
        The religious controllers have built the framework for Government to stifle anybodies’ expressions that aren’t approved, and now the Liberals are using that framework to stifle your religious expression.
        The religious folks made that bed, and now they have to lay in it.
        How about we all just agree to disagree and stop forcing our ways on each other? Freedom that is.

  • Carol

    I have seen them before and I didn’t like them at all but to arrest someone for putting them on a truck I guess it wasn’t a man so it is not OK but the reason why I don’t like it is because of the children that might ask questions as to what they are that is why I don’t like it at all.

    I know people are going to say Freedom of Speech but that has nothing to do with that this is discusting and should not be done that is called common sense.

    • Morduin00

      Carol,

      I agree. Granted we have that good ole’ freedom of speech thingy, but that doesn’t mean that everything has to be said. As Christians, we are hopefully brought up with a certain set of ethics and morals which would prevent us from displaying or saying something that would purposely make someone uncomfortable. (Just because you can say something doesn’t mean you should.)

      The first amendment has been bastardized and trampled on in so many ways and so many directions that the founding fathers would roll in their graves.

      Overall, I think the testicle ornament says more about the person who puts it on their vehicle than it alludes to some bovine genitalia.

      • Karolyn

        “Overall, I think the testicle ornament says more about the person who puts it on their vehicle than it alludes to some bovine genitalia.”

        That’s the bottom line.

        • Morduin00

          Karolyn, Funny on how people on both sides of the political spectrum can agree on something? Maybe Washington can get their heads out of their rectal orifices long enough to give their brains oxygen and begin to think properly :-) Have a good one.

      • justice1st

        You said it!! Right on!

      • justice1st

        Thank you!

    • DaveH

      Disgusting, Yes. But if we banned everything that one person or another found disgusting, there wouldn’t be much left that any of us could do.

      • Robert Smith

        It’s OK Dave, they got hitched.

        Rob

      • Rick

        Bull, freespeach is not the same as obsene speach. The people have a right to be protected from obsene and degeneracy. The confusion of these issues has led to the insanity of letting some of the degeneracy that occurs at gay pride marches etc. We as a nation by letting these things slide have demoralized us to the extent we don’t know what is good or beautiful anymore. This attitud is distroying our nation & society to where it is hard to appreciate & live without being constantly offended if we would choose to live a decent lifestyle. The bullys are winning, to the extent of the sensitive among us are be offended and take all this crap.

    • Dan az

      So Carol
      I take it that you are a city dweller and have never been to a farm!What do you do when your young ask what those parts are on the animals?Do you go to the farmer and ask him to cover them up?

      • Rick

        Testicals are fine where God placed them. But it is obsene to hang then on anything else. There is no free speach or artistic or cultural statement to be made by detatching and hanging what would be beautiful in a crazy place. Shame on us for not knowing the difference. No wonder our culture & nation is in the condition it is in. Degeneracy blinds the mind & senses. This is why we can devorce, give our children over to the gov. schooles with such ease. We are loosing sanity. Get it right, turn around, seek truth, search for God with humility. Open the heart to judge things & values in the right way.

        • Bert Cundle

          Rick:
          Christians loose Sanity, when they refer to the Bible for God!

    • Bert Cundle

      because of the children that might ask questions as to what they are that is why I don’t like it at all.///////////\\\\\If you hide the truth from Childreen, they won’t respect you!!! ( childreen that ask questions often know the answers!)

    • TML

      “the reason why I don’t like it is because of the children that might ask questions as to what they are that is why I don’t like it at all.”

      Would you hide your children from the world? When they ask, tell them the truth. They will love and respect you more for it, than for telling them lies

      • Rick

        This is why we must tell them the truth: Testicals are fine where God placed them. But it is obsene to hang then on anything else. There is no free speach or artistic or cultural statement to be made by detatching and hanging what would be beautiful in a crazy place. Shame on us for not knowing the difference. No wonder our culture & nation is in the condition it is in. Degeneracy blinds the mind & senses. This is why we can devorce, give our children over to the gov. schooles with such ease. We are loosing sanity. Get it right, turn around, seek truth, search for God with humility. Open the heart to judge things & values in the right way.

  • Frank

    OK … I can see the point here .. it’s a guy thingee … so whathappens if someone… decides to start selling anatomicaly correct plastic vaginas to attach to the trailer hitch ball fitting???

    • Rebecca

      What’s the difference in the truck testicles and the stickers that every redneck male in America has on the back windshield of his truck? You know the curvatious female with the daisy duke shorts and the low cut shirt on with everything hanging out of it? Same diff…just sayin…

      • Dan az

        Rebecca
        I have to agree with you,What all ways bothered me was that guys guys can go around topless but women cant.Why?because their breast are are sometimes larger what about man boobs or women that have none?Whats acceptable and whats not?who is it that makes the decisions?I don’t see that anyone has the right to make that decision except us,that is what you would call freedom of speech.God made us and some find it unacceptable and obscene.Maybe its just me but I don’t think anyone has right to force their will on me or anyother person for that matter.

        • Bert Cundle

          Moral inforcement is a disrespect for the Rights of others “too”.

          • justice1st

            Your freedom is fine until it infringes on mine and my family’s, then it becomes my freedom which is taken away. Why do you think it is not lawful to smoke in some restaurants? Because it’s your freedom to choose putting harmful chemicals into your lungs, but it’s my freedom to choose not to.

          • Bert Cundle

            justice1st:
            The real problem is when someone says: Its the Law! Codes Are Not Laws! Criminals use Laws & Codes… “Government”// Civil People, Use Rights!

      • Bill J

        Perhaps we need a law mandating that all ranchers/farmers cover the genitalia of all bulls grazing in roadside pastures. And how about fining a tv network/station for displaying a full body shot of a bull with uncovered genitalia. Should we outlaw rodeo events where one might be offended by the sight of bovine genitalia. And why are we not offended by the naked genitalia of cows? Perhaps we should mandate that all mammals must have their genitals covered! I wouldn’t
        want to be the person responsible for putting a diaper fon a Rino. would you? Hey! for gods’ sake, don’t let your dog go outside naked!

      • Bert Cundle

        NUDE MEN ARE CALLED MORE OFFENSIVE THAN NUDE WOMEN!!! FROM Early brain control…

      • Bert Cundle

        How about the bumper sticker: MY KID KICKED YOUR HONOR STUDENTS ASS!

    • Bear

      Frank! Come on now. You know the answer to that. There would be a hell of a lot of rear end collisions. LOL :)

    • Rick

      This is correct, Insanity knows no bounds. Sexuality is a very strong influence on each of to ignore this is to opt for confusion and the bondage of these strong emotions, which we must fight to keep in perspective. Sexuality within the bonds of marriage is wonderfull & beautiful. It brigns about bonding & children. Why are we distroying the meaning that our Christian cultural heratage without hardly a thought. Are we fools? We are without the ability to live as respecting human beings. This is one of our liberties “the right to life, liberty & the persuit of happinerss.” Practicing Christians have the right now to be insulted & offended on every venue, but we don’t have the right to protection from insults & offences hindering our happiness & life at every turn. We are not animals doing whatever our fallen race is led to by our strongest desire or instenct at the moment it moves us. Lets rise up to break the chains of slavery & animal desires. We can & must be free, Live in the power of God. Ask God & He will grant you the Strength.

      • DaveH

        “Are we fools?”
        Some of us are. Those are the people who think they can harass and force their way on the rest of the population, without ever being subject to harassment and force from those others.
        We have gone from a Free Country filled with rugged individualists to a country full of Controlling bullies both on the left and the right in less than 200 years. Of course the Political Class loves it. They will play you off one another as long as you let them and laugh all the way to the bank.

  • Mark

    This ridiculous obscenity complaint would/could be taken so far as to require cover of genitalia on domestic pets, farm animals and creatures living in zoo’s. It’s there, a system of creation that is difficult to censure from plant life (flowers) to all animal species. Just live with it. I do remember some elementery school teachers in a panic when us students viewed creation in progress by two dogs in the street in the mid 1960′s. It is hilarious now remembering how our teachers reacted chasing the dogs in the street to separate them!

    • DaveH

      What I find amusing is the movie ratings. A child can watch the violent slashing and shooting in a movie, but heaven forbid that they might see a woman’s breast.
      What is wrong with people?

      • Vagabond

        just STUPIDETY Dave,

  • Nancy Johnston

    Why is this a first amendment issue, and why would a judge allow it to be heard as such? It’s an open display of obscenity. I saw one once, and was disgusted. Bumper stickers can be thougnt-provoking, witty, and sometimes really funny. I didn’t see anything funny about seeing a disgusting set of hoo-hoo’s. They belong in the barnyard, not displayed as an accessory.

    • Bill J

      Nancy, I take it then that you cover/close you eyes when driving past a cattle pasture. Not only might you see some bovine genitalia; you might also see some boving mating occuring!!!

      Everyone who, like me, grew up on a farm are laughing their, excuse the expression, rear ends off at you and people who share your view!!!!

    • alex

      nancy, just be cause you are ashamed of your body that doesn’t mean everyone has to be ashamed of their body or anyone eleses

    • Vagabond

      I dont reckon you have a dog or a cat. if you do you should put diapers on them so as not to be offended,

    • justice1st

      Exactly. Animals are animals, people are people and should be civilized as such.

      • Robert Smith

        The real problem is that when they see a trailer hitch having a ball they think of Christopher Eric Hitchens. Then there are real problems.

        Rob

  • Lawrence

    Jury trial? Right. You think you could find 12 people that are going to convict this woman? I think this SC police chief fits the TV southern police stereotype: not so bright.

    • Vagabond

      Lawrence 12 IDIOTS found casey anthony not guilty of murdering her child,

    • independant thinker

      ” “Fuda says he is pushing for a jury trial and hopes the outcome will clarify the state’s obscenity laws, leaving no room for misinterpretation.””

      While i’m sure the sheriff is hoping for a guilty verdict he did say he wants the law clarified by a jury trial.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Lawrence,
      I just wonder how they’re ever going to get them to stop laughing long enough to come to a verdict!!!!

  • Jennie

    I have to admit that I find the article in question to be offensive. I think it represents someone who enjoys being crude. So what if children see it; so what if Granny nearly has a stroke? Some people just seem to enjoy offending as many people as possible. I don’t think it represents free speech or do they make some that talk? That said, I am pleased to say that I haven’t seen any of the offensive articles hanging off any trucks in Kentucky (where I live)in quite a long time. You can call us hillbillies, but we’re hillbillies with class. And proud of it!!

    • DaveH

      “Some people just seem to enjoy offending as many people as possible”.
      Yes, and there will always be those who give them exactly the attention they are looking for. The best thing we can do is Ignore Them.

    • Vagabond

      Jennie the last time I was in Kentucky they were still raising cattle and I have yet to see a male cow who hasen’t been castrated with out a set. you must not get out of the house,

      • TML

        I believe there is a difference between driving by a pasture and checking out bull balls, and displaying a set on the back of your truck.

        • Dan az

          TML
          Who says it is a set of bulls balls?She could be another Bobbet that had them chromed. :)

        • justice1st

          Exactly!!!

    • Vicki

      Jennie writes:
      “Some people just seem to enjoy offending as many people as possible.”

      And their enjoyment fizzles when the people fail to TAKE offense.

      So, tell me, why would you want to take offense and give them all that enjoyment? Why do you want to make things that you find offensive illegal? Is it to get even with them for succeeding in controlling you?

      You consented to being offended so why are you punishing them?

      Punish yourself.

      • Dan az

        Viki
        Hmmm Logic now there’s a new concept. :)

    • Robert Smith

      Jennie posted: ” we’re hillbillies with class. And proud of it!”

      Let’s hear it for the geometric incline Williams.

      You are all invited to the ball and pick-up dance.

      Rob

    • Nadzieja Batki

      If the testicles are so offensive to so many, makes me wonder why God bothered to make them a male accessory.SInce he also made humans in his image this makes the body part still more of a puzzlement.

    • Rick

      This is correct, Insanity knows no bounds. Sexuality is a very strong influence on each of to ignore this is to opt for confusion and the bondage of these strong emotions, which we must fight to keep in perspective. Sexuality within the bonds of marriage is wonderfull & beautiful. It brigns about bonding & children. Why are we distroying the meaning that our Christian cultural heratage without hardly a thought. Are we fools? We are without the ability to live as respecting human beings. This is one of our liberties “the right to life, liberty & the persuit of happinerss.” Practicing Christians have the right now to be insulted & offended on every venue, but we don’t have the right to protection from insults & offences hindering our happiness & life at every turn. We are not animals doing whatever our fallen race is led to by our strongest desire or instenct at the moment it moves us. Lets rise up to break the chains of slavery & animal desires. We can & must be free, Live in the power of God. Ask God & He will grant you the Strength.

  • Jim Macklin

    Very interesting, as they used to say on LAUGH IN. Here in Kansas such decorations are often cast brass or bronze, some are even chromed. It is a silly thing to waste money displaying. But like they say, “boys will be boys” and the brass or plastic vehicle ornament is to be preferred over the teal thing, which is sometimes seen sewn to a pick-up truck.
    On a more practical matter, almost half a century ago, there was an organization called The Society Against Cruelty To Naked Animals. I saw it on the TODAY SHOW one morning. The President was on with one of the talking heads.
    He had pictures of cows with dresses, bulls with pants, also cats and dogs.
    He said that the animals were embarrassed to be seen naked. A request for money and support was made.
    A year later, he was back on TV to report it was a college thesis paper study to see how gullible people were. Anyone wanting their donation back could write and request it. He said he had raised several million dollars.

  • James Maxwell

    Displaying “Mountain Oysters” on the bumpr of a truck is a little silly to me. I think most people do it as a joke only. It is not
    exactly what I would care to see on a vehicle and not on any of mine
    for sure. But I feel the same about baggy pants, tatoos also. Not
    my cuppa tea. Freedom of expression is a slippery slope that while to some degree I have to admit we need some control over this seems to be one officers opinion that is rather puritan in its enforcement. I wonder how many of the 18 wheelers comming thru his are he has stoped and ticketed for this offense along with the nekid
    lady mudflaps? Considering the verses of the music we hear from the hip hop, gansta crowd the spherical bouncers are minor on the radar. Our entire nation has lost its direction of what is acceptable in public. You look around and you see young girls dressing up like street walker imitating the entertainers they admire, you hear language that has not respecte for anyone becomming common place in the public. We need to stop a lot of things but it starts at home not in the government.

    • Dan az

      James
      That reminded me of this truck that I was passing that had those mud flaps on except this time it was of a guy instead of a girl,I laughed untill I got to his window then wanted to puke! :)

      • Al Sieber

        Hey Dan, was that on I-40 near Seligman?

        • Dan az

          Yep!

    • DaveH

      I believe this is all symptomatic of the Leviathan Government we have that snoops into almost every aspect of our lives.
      I gave my daughter almost complete freedom, and she certainly cut up but since she had nothing to rebel against she quickly learned from her mistakes. She was amazed years later that the kids she used to hang with still had not grown up.
      Adults, like teenagers, behave their worst when somebody (read Government) is trying to dictate their every choice.
      A free People are the most well-behaved people in general.

      • Vicki

        A few well thought rules strictly enforced is all that kids need to grow up well. Worked for my grandparents, my parents, my siblings, my daughter and nieces and nephews. We have generations of proof.

        If you want free people you have to raise them free.

      • Dan az

        Dave
        More logic what are you guys trying to do run of the libs?

  • Thinking About

    Sounds like another ACLU case to me. This is where censorship has taken us. The “moral” group will continue to get their way. It’s their way or no way.

    • Elevenarrows

      Thinking About (what?!)…where have you been for the last 40 years? The “moral” group (to which I belong) almost never gets their way. Society has become so depraved that about the only thing you can’t do in public is pray to God. And, personally, I think the ACLU has done much damage to the decent, moral fiber of our nation.

      • mickey

        You’ve got that right. The ACLU does worse things than any bumper sticker could.

      • Thinking About

        Now that I have your attention there is very little difference in the ACLU and moral group. Both wants to change choices we need to make ourselves. What politician decided the ornaments was in need of having a law enacted. The moral groups has decided what to censor and so others rights are shut down. If you don’t like ACLU then others don’t like the actions of the “moral” groups.

      • justice1st

        Exactly!!

    • Bert Cundle

      Preachers with a BADGE… Liberty Crucified!

  • sybucket

    I think I have to disagree with DPL their interpitation of the 1st Amendment. Having a copy of the Bill of Rights in front of me, it says nothing about Political speech. It say “Congress shall make no law……abridging the freedom of speech”. That seems pretty clear, just as does Justice Holmes statememnt that “Freedom of speech still does not aloow one to shout’Fire’ in a crowded theater.” As to DPl’s further claim that “Early court rulings confirmed that view”-That may be correct but if the court fulings were limited to just politicks, than a good hundred years of “Art” and thousands of books would be in the trash barrel….not to mention Playboy…so I won’t.

    Irrespective of DPL’s seemingly narrow view of what the First Amendment should stand for, I’m dam glad it takes a very broad view of my “Free Speech.”

    In this particular case, I suppose the testicles could be interperted as a “Political Statement” but as it isn’t artistic, written literature,a painting it will be interesting to see how it plays out. I suppose it could be sculpture……

    • Morduin00

      I think we need to make a distinction between freedom of speech and freedom of expression. The founders said nothing about freedom of expression while placing one’s freedom of speech as the number one amendment. Clearly they intended a distinction? Just food for thought.

      • Bill J

        The courts have ruled expression the same as speech. Therefore, expression is covered by the 1st amendment!

      • Vicki

        And who is to say that it is not religious expression. Hmmm.
        “…or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;”

      • DaveH

        An interesting line of thought about Freedom of Speech:
        http://mises.org/daily/1220

  • Ithamar

    The Constitution of the federal government did not define the moral character of a state or community, nor was it ever allowed to interfere with the religiously founded moral underpinning of the same until the last 50 years. No one ever had the right to intentionally offend the moral standards of of a local people on the basis that the 1st amendment gave them the right to do so. Your view of “conservative” federal intrusion is little different from the “liberal” view.

  • Roger

    Viagra commercials are also obscene, but protected by big bucks.

    • Karolyn

      Good point!

      • Bill J

        I find the New York Yankees to be obscene!! Let’s fine the 100 million dollars for winning too many championships!!! Anytime someone says ‘There ought to be a law!’, stick your fingers in your ears, for pure stupidity is sure to follow that phrase!!!

  • TIME

    OMG – People, lets get this straight, “Freedom / Personal Libertys” implies that offensive things either by way of Speach, or Pictures, or hand signs, or what ever form it may be is all part of “FREEDOM.”

    When you start sliding down the slope of what offends one person or the other by controlling what you can say, think, wear, or promote is when you slide straight in to the total opposite of Freedom.

    I know we as a nation have been doing this for years to ourselfs so its nothing new. Thicker skin is needed, as well more {open minds} thats why we are loosing all of our Freedoms, as the “thin skined wankers” who are total Control Freaks, Passive Agressives, or outright IDIOTS who can’t stop complaining about others behavior.

    • SmartAlice

      I completely agree with you. The “politically correct” attitude is too pervasive in our lives and has spilled over into every aspect of our society. While one may think an act might be in bad taste, that is their opinion, and some of their actions may be construed as bad taste by many others. Are we to be judged and convicted for our attitudes unless they conform to another’s standards? That’s how the green movement made so much headway making it impossible to generate energy for growing communities. My motto in life it this, “You’re entitled to your own opinion. You’re also entitled to mine.” I don’t care what you do with my opinion but I am allowed to express it and shouldn’t have to worry about being jailed for it.

    • Bill J

      FINALLY!! SOMEONE WITH A BRAIN!!!

  • cat lover

    I agree with James Maxwell. I feel sorry for the officer’s daughter. If her dad wants to keep her from seeing or hearing about stuff like this, he needs to make sure she doesn’t attend health classes at school and she is in for one big shock when she leaves home – oh and if she marries, oh my gosh what will she see?!!!! Also, when at the circus, zoo, seeing animals in pastures, police horses up close, I guess we need to cover the anatomy of the animals so as not to offend people and horrify the children who may ask questions. Growing up in farm country, animal genetilia was not obscene to us. We were not protected from animal mating even as small children. It was a fact of life! With all the violent games our kids play, see sexual organs and body parts blown off of the people in the game, seeing a sexual organ on a vehicle is not a big deal!

    • Elevenarrows

      Cat Lover, I think you and others are missing the officer’s point (when he spoke as a father). There used to be a time in society (which still exists in the circles I run in) when young ladies were protected from all types of things like coarse language, offensive behavior, lewd acts or suggestions, etc. Boys were taught from a young age to be gentlemen, to protect ladies, to walk on the road side of a sidewalk to shield them from harm, etc. These were marks of gentility and good upbringing. They were once considered desirable traits. I have eleven children and we own a farm. My children are quite educated on farm births and most of the older ones understand breeding. However, we do not go around making lewd, coarse suggestions about human sexuality nor do we “cover up” the farm animals anatomy. We still lunge at the TV to avoid robbing our children of their innocence due to all the filth on TV and in commercials. This used to be expected of parents. Now, much of society thinks even young children should be exposed to the most vile things. Reminds me of the Roman empire’s lust for the profane…right before their destruction.

      It saddens and disgusts me that most of our society thinks they have become so enlightened and have progressed so far as to scorn what once was the accepted code of decent society. I agree they’ve progressed, but it has been a downward progression. Lest you think I’m fondly remembering ancient days, I am only 44. I still step to the side for a gentlemen to open doors. Most of the time, sad to say, the men stop and stare at the door and look at me and wonder why I’m not opening it. Whatever happened to good, decent training? I suspect all you people so accepting of offensive behavior (cloaked in the first amendment) had a part in its demise.

      • mickey

        It is offensive and I agree, men are no longer gentlemen nor women ladies, part of the great progression of some groups. Yeah, it used to be family decision, now it is a society’s decision.

        Common sense and good upbringing sort of got pushed aside.

      • Dan az

        Elevenarrows
        I agree that society in general has progressed to a different standard mostly because of being PC and the womens movement.But Freedoms and liberty are just that our choice not anothers demand that we live by what they feel would be right or wrong,you just can’t have it both ways.What is obscene to one is art to another.What was acceptable once but what is not today.Freedom is not a compliance to laws that take away liberty but what God gave us and that includes morals.When they take God out of the picture they also take morals away also.

      • Steve

        As Kyra Sedgwick on “The Closer” says, “Thank you very much” This is the best comment/explanation given.

      • justice1st

        Thank you ElevenArrows! It’s about time someone said something about decency while still dispelling the ludricous allusion to diapering animals. Let animals be animals, but let people be different!

      • DaveH

        Elevenarrows,
        I believe in Liberty for all, regardless of sex, regardless of race, regardless of religion.
        If you and like-minded people want to observe social niceties, I say great, more power to you. But I just want Government and their force to butt out unless somebody is trespassing on the bodies and property of others.
        Personally, since I respect the freedom of women to work and play just as men do, I am disappointed when a woman walking in front of me makes no effort at all to keep the door from slamming in my face. I think it’s rude for guys to do that, and I think it’s rude for girls to do that. But Government has no place in enforcing rules of etiquette.

        • James

          DaveH, Well said. I agree with that, but would just add that police power to enforce moral codes is a State matter, not federal. And not all States have the same moral codes. Some States allow nude bathing, but most don’t. Some cities allow topless bars, many don’t.

    • Annie

      Animal genetilia is part of the normal, natural world and our attention is not pointed to that part of the body in particular. In the case of the ornament hanging from the truck, it is neither normal nor natural. Trucks are not male or female and things of this nature on display are gross. The devil is depicted as a little red man with horns. Wonder from where came the idea for red testicles?

      • Dan az

        Annie
        I think that the purpose of the ornament is that mine is bigger than yours,Like when one says he is compensating for the lack of size. But when I see it on a womens truck than to me it means she either got it in the divorce settlement or that she may be the one that wears the pants in the family.

        • Dan az

          Or maybe it just means that she is NUTS.

      • justice1st

        Thank you, Annie. There is a BIG difference.

  • Frank

    to sybucket ….if you interpret the 1st amendment your way … then any language or saying is permitted … death threats … screaming obscenities in church … foul language on TV and radio … kiddie porn … etc .. and the famous “yelling ‘FIRE’ in crowded theatre when in fact no such fire exists …” and then there’s libel and slander laws ..in fact the .. the amendment does apply to political speech .. not advertising .. inflaminmg and obscene and/or disruptive speech … if you think not .. then email me your home address so I can have the westboro baptist church set up an anti-gay demo in front of your house at 0300 hours subday morning..

    • Hope For American

      According to my local police force, death threaths are not against the law. I was threatened, made a police report and was told, ‘Sorry, but a death threat is not a crime. An actual crime has to be committed before we can make an arrest.’ If that’s true, then drinking and driving is not a crime because it’s only the threat of a crime because a crime has not yet been committed. As far as the bull testicles – I’d rather see them than the people at Walmart. How do you explain to a young child why a woman is wearing jelly rolls instead of clothes? Disgusting but I had to LMAO. The only way for the feds to create stupid laws that take away our rights and liberties is to begin ticketing people like the truck driver. Perhaps her freedom of speech is gross and different from other’s, but that’s what freedoms are all about. It’s her right to display it, and it’s our right to disagree with her and turn our heads. What we need in this country is moral and ethical leaders and parents. There are none, for the fact is a moral human being (leader) would not give the same rights to homosexuals as they would heterosexual and force people to accept it as politically correct. The only thing politically correct about it is the votes liberals would lose if they didn’t give them equal rights. We have scum who lead us, so who’s to judge people like the truck driver?

      • DaveH

        Hope,
        The problem ISN’T that “a moral human being (leader) would not give the SAME rights to homosexuals”.
        The problem IS that Government is giving MORE rights to homosexuals and others than the rest of us get.

    • justice1st

      Frank, you are so right and that’s why we have those things going on today. Freedom of speech is to allow everyone to state their opinion, not to threaten, libel, or otherwise infringe on another’s liberty to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

  • Beverly Golato

    I wonder if there are any strip clubs in SC or lap dances going on? I find them offensive but guys love them. They are protected under freedom of expression. If my child asked me what they were I would just tell them. Children have more common sense then we give them credit for and they would probably think it was just dumb. Send your kids to public school now and they learn in elementary school how homosextuals have sex and that it is a good thing so I would consider this a big to do about nothing.

    • Karolyn

      Strip clubs in SC??? Surely you jest! Well, I guess there are things like that in the “big cities;” but in the country, you’re hard-pressed to even find bars!

      • Elevenarrows

        Of course there are strip clubs here in SC…I know of two in Greenville-Spartanburg. Not that I would go to one!

      • Karolyn

        Actually, I forgot about the woman up the road who had a strip joint in her trailer with a pole in the middle of the living room. She was busted when a guy turned her in because he didn’t get his money’s worth! :-)

        • Dan az

          Karolyn
          Please be careful of my little ears—————————–>

  • Chuck H

    Who is paying for this trial and how much will it cost? All I can say is “Nuts!!!”

  • http://None Frank

    I’m not sure it could be called a criminal offense, Disgusting, yes it is. Mainly because of tiny Tots that see it. It refelcts the ignorance, stupidity and rudeness of the driver.It makes you wonder if they are some sort of mental deficient scum bag. A sexual deviant, sex offender? Shame!

    • Bert Cundle

      LEARN TO ENJOY THE DIFFERANCES IN OTHERS!

  • http://aol.com sean murrey ILLInio

    Washington always have thier heads in thier ass.

  • Wayne Miller

    So it’s alright to have Television programs embracing the homosexual life style and to pass out condoms to middle school children and to advise teen age girls about birth control methods with out the consent of parents, too murder babies in the mothers womb but it’s against the law to exhibit a pair of gonads on a bumper or trailer hitch, while I would never do anything that stupid I would defend the individuals right to do so.

    • Abner

      If you want to enforce obscenity laws, its time to check out some of the TV programing. What we see on TV now you use to have to pay to see on HBO…the language is hard to not understand. Watch “Two and Half Men” sometime…now that is filth. And who is behind it? What did you say?…Zionist???

      • Bert Cundle

        T & H. M. IS RISKAY, BUT, THAT IS THE HUMOR OF IT. I’M NOT SO CINICAL THAT I CAN’T LAUGH ANY MORE!

    • mickey

      I pretty much agree with you. The schools are now the “moral” (rather amoral) teachers.

      The decoration is probably in bad taste but the products showing naked women are taken for granted. Commercials with half dressed women hanging all over cars, billboards with women with unbuttoned pants. And the cop wants to site a ticket for this?

      Oh, and let’s not address YT and all the filmed teen violence.

      While I am rather conservative, CA has taken over and everything goes now. It used to be this thing would stand up in court as being offensive but where is in real definition? I’ve seen normal trailer hitches look just as much the same.

      • justice1st

        All those things are truly indecent & abhorable.

  • J.M.R.

    i guess all farmers will have to d-nut all the bulls as it’s indecent

  • My2cents

    And I thought my country’s laws were hilarious…….

    Well at least here they hang blue ones on their trucks. Smurfs beware….

    I quote “According to an article for WCSC TV in Charleston, S.C., “The South Carolina code of laws says ‘a sticker, decal or emblem is indecent when it describes, in a patently offensive way… sexual acts, excretory functions or parts of the human body.”

    If bumper stickers have this limitation why is there no law stating “excretory functions or parts of the human body.” limiting politicians’ appearance without hoods covering the head completely in public?

    And no law limiting or prohibiting “excretory functions” when they open their mouths?

    Now those are obscenities we will do well without.

    Maybe Tice should contact the Pickup Truck Anti Cruelty League about the involved law enforcement official’s demand to castrate her truck in public……

    • mickey

      I love the politicians point. It’s still ok to call certain (unidentified) people terrorists.

  • jb80538

    I’m fairly confident the constitution will win in this case and the woman can keep her balls on her truck.

  • Roy

    WOW. Leave it to my beloved state of South Carolina to find a cop dumb enough to make a case aganist someone for this. With all the stealing going on in every neighborhood this cop dosen’t have anything better to do than harrass motorists for crap like this. I thought I would like to be on the jury but would probably be cited for contempt for laughing so loudly. BTW how much money is all this going to cost for nothing?

    • TIME

      Roy,

      Its a case of take on the “easy target.”
      The cops don’t really want to stop a car full of gang bangers or go into the hood to get someone who they know has commited a crime.

      Its not just SC, this is all over this nation.

      • mickey

        Or illegals.

        • Dan az

          mickey
          Here they would like to but aren’t allowed to even in case of a crime.I was backed into by an illegal with a warrant and no lic.or reg. he was going backwards up a one way street and tried to enter a parking lot that I was coming out of and doing about 30.The front end of my dodge was hit while I was sitting there watching this fool and when the cops came they didn’t do a thing about it.Because they said they didn’t have the resources to haul him down to phoenix to stand trial for the warrant let alone do anything but site him for the accident that he could not afford to pay the fine let alone my insurance cost to have it fixed.Sorry a little off subject.

  • American Citizen

    People are too easily offended by things that don’t really harm them. We have to abide by political correctness so that we don’t offend minorities, but if something offends one of us in the majority, tough. They drag out the 1st Amendment, which really doesn’t apply. It’s a political document meant to deal with political statements. We can criticize the government without fear of reprisal, at least it used to be that way. It doesn’t mean we can say or do anything we feel like doing or saying. There are laws to deal with all kinds of actions and speech. For instance, we cannot commit murder (even at times if we feel like it) or use slander or defamation against someone.

    • justice1st

      That’s correct and thank you for stating it that way. You are a true American Citizen!

  • tim

    Another dumbazz cop with no sense of humor. Hope his jury laughs him out of court

  • arkady

    The first ammendment does not include a right to obscenity, regardless. It was written to ensure an individual’s right to disagree with the governement on any given issue, to hold an opinion in opposition to governmental policy as a matter of public record, without fear of reprisal, and to allow for petition of the government on those grounds. The context was what was known to happen when one had the temerity to diagree with the “Crown”. In the monarchical state, differing in opinion, and stating in public, could land you in London Tower. States were, and are, free determine the nature of obscenity, and may make and enforce laws to stop it. The current interpretation regarding the first ammendment and a right to publish something like Playboy, or Hustler is erroneous, and is probably the genuine threat to freedom as it usurps state’s rights.

    • justice1st

      Thank You! You hit the nail on the head!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        justice1st,
        Not quite. There was the case of a guy tubing down the river up in Michigan a few years back that was dropping F-bombs at the top of his lungs as the water was cold. You could hear him a half mile up and down stream and some lady reported him to the police. They ticketed him and the guy took it to court and won. The court ruled that though offensive as his speech was, it was protected by the constitution!

    • Vicki

      “It was written to ensure an individual’s right to disagree with the governement on any given issue…”

      Including what is obscene?

  • Stunned at sunset

    I’m all for 1st Amendment rights, my fellows, but I feel empathy for the Chief of Police this time. Can you imagine trying to explain what that ornament represented to your six-year-old daughter as you drove along the thruway? Why are so many of us avidly engaging in gratuitous vulgarity so much? Where’s the logic of it? It seems an off-shoot of “gangsta rap” mentality where the humanity of men, women, and children are often demeaned to make some kind of a morbid statement about an imagined reality that just doesn’t exist in the human condition!

    There are ways to “get in the face” of oppressive government that do not involve offending other people who might have been your allies had you not filled them with disgust. In this case, while it may be just a passing fad, it is an offensive thing to make such a brutal statement that homogenizes the perception of the innocent in their view of the beauty of Creation.

    I wouldn’t adopt an existential attitude either. It may be true that children will have to grow up and learn the details of their existence someday but you wouldn’t be prudent to intrude upon THEIR childhood with YOUR “grown-up” point of view. That’s why little innocent children grow up to be “helter-skelter” mass murderers. Somewhere along the line of their development, they were brutalized and their coping mechanism just became overwhelmed and generated an emotional condition that ended their life and the lives of their victims in abject tragedy.

    We really should stop this kind of public disregard for the sensibilities of others. Use common sense!

    • Bert Cundle

      iF YOU CAN’T EXPLAIN THAT TO A 6 YEAR OLD GIRL … YOU ARE TOO TIGHTLY RAPED!

      • Karolyn

        I think you meant to say “wrapped!”

        • Bert Cundle

          Thanks “K”…

          • Bert Cundle

            See what Public Schools did to me… Foniks is right…

      • justice1st

        ‘Can’t explain’ and ‘shouldn’t need to explain’are two totally different considerations. Humans should have some decency and respect for others, especially our impressionable young!

    • justice1st

      Well said, Stunned! (I, too, am stunned by sunset rays and love to see God’s paintings!)

  • KnowTheTruthToday

    Since some people do not have sense enough to act appropriately in front of children it may be that there does have to be some laws, and just not an anything goes show. Constitutional protection can be taken to the extreme especially when we all know it wasn’t written for an anything goes document.

    • mickey

      ummm no more laws, please. Let society censor this. There are things laws just can’t do and that is acceptance of people. In the old days, this woman would be “shunned”, called names until she got the point.

      OTOH, look at TV and all the camera angles looking down a woman’s low cut shirt. This isn’t taken to court or condemned. Maybe the woman was just making a statement and the cop didn’t like the reverse advertisement. As far as his daughter is concerned, does she watch any TV? Even the news women are caught with camera angles looking up their dresses.

      Slippery slope when using this to justify “moral” when the opposite of this has been going on and accepted for years.

      I stopped watching most of US TV and started watching foreign films that where content doesn’t have to have blatant sex to sell the film. I prefer to read the news rather than to watch both sexes demean each other.

    • justice1st

      I agree! And in the day that the 1st amendment passed it WAS against the law to use public profanity, and there were public indecency laws also. As far as animals go, they are just that, animals. Therefore, they look the way they do and act the way they do in public because they are animals. My children grew up with all kinds of animals, as we even rehabbed wild ones, but that’s not the same as hanging items that are ‘disconnected’ from the natural and ‘celebrating’ them by letting them hang & dangle in public for effect. Obviously, it is to arouse interest & certainly does to children who are too young.

    • Vicki

      KnowTheTruthToday writes:
      “Since some people do not have sense enough to act appropriately in front of children”

      And what is “appropriately” in front of whos children? Who are you to decide for all of them. Tyranny is tyranny.

      “Would you tell me please, Mr. Howard, why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away?”.
      - Benjamin Martin (Mel Gibson)
      From the movie The Patriot.

      • DaveH

        Nice quote, Vicki. I hope it sinks in.

    • justice1st

      Wise point, KnowTheTruthToday!

  • James

    The U.S. Supreme Court has never held any state law in violation of the First Amendment. It simply says “Congress shall make no law” concerning the five rights mentioned therein. It applies to ‘Congress’ not the States. All States have moral codes, and if South Carolina laws violate any constitution it would be that State’s.

    • Bert Cundle

      That is why the U.S. Constitution is NULL & VOID!

    • Vicki

      James writes:
      “The U.S. Supreme Court has never held any state law in violation of the First Amendment.”

      James. Have you heard of this thing called a “search engine”? It is a marvelous tool for keeping yourself from making patently false statements.

      http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/California
      “In a 7-2 decision handed down on Monday, the US Supreme Court struck down California’s violent video game law and ruled that video games are protected speech covered by the First Amendment. The California law banned the sale and rental of violent video games to minors.”

      • James

        Vicki, In Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Assoc., 564 U.S. ___ (2011), the Court held the California law “abridges the First Amendment rights of young people,” that is the rights of “freedom of speech and of the press.” The Court held that the California law had violated those rights of young people. It didn’t say the law had violated the amendment. All Americans have those rights. The First Amendment is a restriction on Congress from abridging those rights: “Congress shall make no law…etc.” That may sound like a moot point, we have become accustomed to referring to our rights as ‘First Amendment or Second Amendment rights,’ but rights are unalienable they aren’t dependent on those amendments for their existence.

    • justice1st

      That’s correct!

  • Elevenarrows

    James, well said.

    • justice1st

      Agreed!

  • Alej

    The age and culture levels of the respondents here are pretty apparent. I grew up in Old America, in the 1940s, 1950s, and early’60s… that sort of display was not tolerated. Now, anything goes. As one commenter observed, a big flapping vulva will be next. California has infected America.

    • mickey

      Yep and homosexual profiles will be next on those big rig mud flaps.

    • bucksnort

      “As one commenter observed, a big flapping vulva will be next”,California has infected America.

      Lets leave the senators,Boxer,Feinstein,and Pelosi out of this conversation please.

  • Elevenarrows

    Maybe not, Mickey, I think most big rig drivers are probably good ol’ boys.

  • skippy

    Really???!!! Well…hell….are they going to put clothes on animals now??!! As a child in the rural community…I saw them on dogs & cows & goats..and thought nothing about it. Maybe Fuda ought to get another job if THAT offends him. Oh brother, we are in sooooo much trouble!!!

    • TIME

      Skip.
      LMAO!!!!! ;-)

  • jopa

    How many years has that big ole bull on Wall Street been hunkered down with it’s tail riding high and no complaints I am aware of.Perhaps this is art and that’s okay.Too many important issues to worry about today to be pulling over some lady with a set of balls.As I have said before “LEAVE ANN COULTER ALONE”!I remember reading years ago in Finland Donald Duck was banned for running around with a shirt and no pants on.True story!

    • DaveH

      Why the Ann Coulter attack, Jopa?
      Sounds like a little testicle envy to me.

  • Bert Cundle

    Obseen or Humerious… individual interpetation! Some people think they rule everything in their sight. Majority is not an indication of Right! Another Control Freek, trying to use law…

  • RETIRED

    City folks and the sensibilities of the women seem to have been offended by someone putting a perfectly natural part of the anatomy of a bull on their trailer hitch. I have never seen this in any way other then on the bull himself. I certainly don’t find that to be offensive.

    As others have said, I do find the garbage on TV, and the Gangsta Rap to be offensive. The person with the bull paraphernalia, most likely was trying to satisfy an unusual sense of humor, while the TV garbage is trying to affect you and your children’s sense of right and wrong. I consider myself to be conservative, but I also try to keep things reasonable.
    Sex is not a dirty subject as long as it is approached from a realistic, and appropriately reverend point of view. After all we are talking about the procreating of humans, not the animalistic breeding of other creatures. I am sure it is more then that to the animals, and I think they probably have a lot more regards for their lives then we do also. Yet in the real world, animals have sex in public, while those of us who think procreation is a very personal and private thing do not.

    I do not think children are going to be marked for life by viewing parts of an animal that are readily available to the eyes of every farm girl in the world.

  • Carol J

    I just looked at the picture in the original story. I can’t see that they look like bull testes. Also, since they were hanging from the trailer hitch, how on earth did this idiot police chief decide it violated the obscene bumper sticker law. Wasn’t on the bumper that I could see.

    • Hope For American

      Carol, cops like to look underneath skirts.

      • Carol J

        Hee hee hee.

  • EltonJ

    What about for us who think that the Human Body is illegal?

  • valerie

    I saw this is Las Vegas on a big truck back in 2002. They were blue. I laughed and laughed and laughed . took out my camera and took a picture of it laughing the whole time. My son was with me . He was 13 at the time.
    He thought it was funny too, but did not know about the blue part ….. LLOL

  • Bert Cundle

    It’s like when a child asks where does the Stake come from…
    You take them to the Slauter House…

  • s c

    Carol J, I’m glad I responded early on this topic. That police chief is probably the local pc, Nazi anal retentive, too. Some people just can’t let anyone express themselves in public.
    It goes to the heart of the matter with anyone who stoops to use pc tactics against others. A Nazi is a Nazi. A pc Nazi is worse. Only an ultraliberal progressive coud have any use for pc tactics. Sadly, America has a lot of them. And some of them are elected and they try to stay in Washington for most of their lives.

    • Vicki

      Just a quick side note. The Police Chief is pressing for a jury trial. That is either cause he thinks he can win OR he is really using this as a test case to strike down a law he doesn’t think should be.

      He can’t do it on his own cause he would not have “standing”. Just sayin.

  • http://Yahoo HOMELESS

    LOL !
    Gee another story about the lost revenue that has plauged the whole U.S. do to the fact that washington brought upon us all & now we have
    states bringing up laws that infringes on the FIRST ADMENDMENT as we know it or as we all know it the whole U.S. CONSTITUTION !
    Hey what about those speed cameras across AMERICA, what they are supposed to make the streets safer, LOL ! or is it another REVENUE ISSUE ! How about the issues on T.V., the filth that runs rampant & the F.C.C. wants to control every issue on what we watch, the language
    yet we have people that use GOD’S NAME IN VAIN & thats acceptable…..
    Misinterpetation, Vauge, Obsenity, Offensive maybe Cheif Frank Fuda ought to clean up his act, his language, his morals because he is as guilty as anyone else is or maybe he was embarASSED because he doesn’t
    have a pair to begin with, LOL ! Who will he ticket next ! LOL !

  • Hot & Dry New Mexico

    Well, These people better stay out of the western states as there are some of on bumpers, but your liable to be shocked to see BIGGER Hairy ones in the feed yards, ranches and pastures because the BULLS and horses are displaying right out there in the open for everybody to see. Nobody gets upset about it. If They do nobody pays attention.
    Next they will want pants put on them.

    Are the police going to shut down the zoo because the elephant has some BIG ones or are they going to casterate the poor guy so the cops daughter won’t be scared. Hell, if she is over ten, she knows what they are. SO What, they are letting GAYS almost do each other in public. It’s just more BS to draw your attention while they rob you of your rights and wealth. WAKE UP AMERICA!, GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS, MAY THEY COME HOME SAFE.

  • John

    He’s pathetic! I thought the role of the police chief was to keep the community safe from the bad guys. What a stretch for this jughead to take on the role of parent for the community by deciding on its morality. Then he has the gall (after writing her a $445 ticket!!!!!) to take the whole thing to court, which will, of course, cost her plenty and him not one dime! Just another bully with a big gun! Vote him out of office – and soon.

    • Hope For American

      I think there needs to be a law implemented that says if a public servant harms or illegally arrests a citizen of the U.S., they can and will be sued for out-of-pocket costs. When ones sues public servants, it’s the taxpayer who pays. That has to stop. If someone sued you or me, we would have to pay out-of-pocket because we can’t run to the taxpayer and ask them to pay. Public servants shouldn’t have that right either because it’s not the taxpayer who harmed the citizen – it’s the f’ed up servant who thinks he’s above the law and can always hand the bill to his employers – US. Bull S—!

  • http://PERSONALLIBERTYDIGEST FRENCHIE

    WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THOSE WITH LEGITIMATE MENTAL ISSUES…THIS IS JUST F*N RETARDED !!! COPS ARE OUT OF CONTROL & THE SAD THING IS, THIS WILL PROBABLY STAND UP IN COURT, LEADING TO THE SAFE ASSUMPTION THAT THE COURTS ARE ALSO OUT OF CONTROL. $445 BECAUSE A STUPID COP HAD NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN HASSLE SOMEBODY WHO WASN’T REALLY CAUSING ANY KIND OF A PROBLEM. UNBELIEVEABLE. COULDN’T THIS COP’S TIME HAVE BEEN BETTER SPENT ARRESTING CRACK DEALERS, CHILD MOLESTERS, OR ILLEGAL ALIENS ? I MEAN, WHAT’S THE ATROCITY HERE ? BULL NUTS, FAKE BULL NUTS AT THAT, ON A TRAILER HITCH ARE NOT LEGITIMATE CAUSE FOR A COURT APPEARENCE AND/OR FINE. “YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK”, PEOPLE. I’M BEGINNING TO WISH MY TAX DOLLARS WOULD JUST SIT IN A BANK SOMEWHERE COLLECTING INTEREST UNTIL THE CITY, STATE, OR COUNTY CAN AFFORD TO HIRE COPS THAT HAVE SOME MEASURE OF COMMON SENSE & CAN BE TRAINED TO GO AFTER THINGS THAT MATTER INSTEAD OF BULLS#!T LIKE THIS….JEEZ !!!!!!!!!

  • TML

    I think the actual design would be the difference. If it’s designed to look like a real set of gonads, like you might see on a life-like sex toy, then I think it is rather obscene… although, personally, I would never makea big issue of it. I’ve seen them before, and just kind of shake my head at them… and if my kids ask, I’d tell them what it is, give them my opinion about such ridiculous displays, and move on.

    I think is someone is compelled to do this, that 2 balls hanging on 2 strings gets the point across with a little more imaginative class.

    If I were on the jury, it would be a not guilty, for sure… even though I disagree with it entirely.

  • http://www.charter.net HTCM USN James Graham

    Subject: Air Force One. Everyone please read this!!`

    This is from Mark Knoller of CBS. The pilots and crew of Air Force One are flying more hours than a rookie on a beer run. They are tired of it too, and are adding more crew to Air Force-1, – I know this for a fact because I’m one of the instructors that trains the crews. Our company (Atlas Air) has had the Air Force-1 and E-4 contract for over two years and I’ve been doing it for about 8 months now.

    Last year (2010) Obama flew in Air Force One 172 times, almost every other day. White House officials have been telling reporters in recent days that the Democrat doesn’t intend to hang around the White House quite so much in 2011. They explain he wants to get out more around the country because, as everyone knows, that midterm election shellacking on Nov. 2 had nothing to do with his health care bill, over-spending or other policies, and everything to do with Obama’s not adequately explaining himself to his countrymen and women.

    And with only 673 days remaining in Obama’s never ending presidential campaign, the incumbent’s travel pace will not likely slacken. At an Air Force-estimated cost of $181,757 per flight HOUR (not to mention the additional travel costs of Marine One, Secret Service, logistics and local police overtime), that’s a lot of frequent flier dollars going into Obama’s carbon footprint.

    We are privy to some of these numbers thanks to CBS’ Mark Knoller, a bearded national treasure trove of presidential stats. According to Knoller’s copious notes, during the last year, Obama made 65 domestic trips over 104 days, and six trips to eight countries over 22 days. Not counting six vacation trips over 32 days.

    He took 196 helicopter trips, signed 203 pieces of legislation and squeezed in 29 rounds of left-handed golf.

    Obama last year gave 491 speeches, remarks or statements. That’s more talking than goes on in some entire families, at least from fatherly mouths. In fact, even including the 24 days of 2010 that we never saw Obama in public, his speaking works out to about one official utterance every 11 waking hours. Aides indicate the “Real Good Talker” believes we need more.

    Related: Obama spends nearly half his presidency outside Washington , plans to travel more

    Related: Vacationer-in-Chief Spends $1.75 Million to Visit Hawaiian Chums

    Obama has spent over $100 million taxpayer dollars flying around in Air Force One, and probably another $100 million on his entourage. Obama is just another tin-pot dictator living lavishly at the expense of his subjects.

    And we seniors have to “tighten our belts” because we aren’t getting a COLA again this year… and none last year!
    THANKS TO ALL WHO HELPED PUT THIS GREEDY WINDBAG IN OFFICE!!
    BE MORE CAREFUL NEXT TIME!!

    • justice1st

      astounding! yes, yes, yes!

  • Barbara

    Do we not have bigger problems in this country than having the display of some mountain oysters hanging of a truck, I have problems with having elementary school kids being taught about homosexuality in the classroom,
    I worry about unemployment and our economy, and our young people not learning about respect and love for our country, that non citizens can decide were I can pray.

  • just little ole me

    I many times have to encounter things that are inappropriate and it does make me twinge a little. I do however believe in freedom. I am so tired of people who think they are in such powerful positions that they can bind others just because it offends them or gives them a rush of control. I am also so tired of mothers who live by the philosophy “My kid didn’t do it.”

    We have lived in a society of many mothers (and fathers) who have babied their children for so long and stuck up for them when they should have been teaching their children about consequences. I think much of this has started with mothers/fathers not fulfilling their duties. I am not saying all mothers/fathers but many. Sometimes it is because of a lack of a mother or father. Woman have for so long screamed out “equality” they have forgotten duty. I am a mother and I do think a women should have the right to work but I also think we should put our children first. Don’t misunderstand me there are many who do but there are more who do not. We should be teaching our children not to be offended at every turn. We are also a vengeance society. We need to be a tolerant society but not to the degree that we are stupid either. Example enemies who we think we can befriend and make nice with when they want to destroy us. Should we be tolerant of them, no? What has happened to us? I think before we totally look at the government we should restore the values of Mother and Father. If we get families to advocate responsibilities and honesty and teach it to them with the up most importance then I think we can restore our country. We so easily point the fingers at our government when we need to analyze the family structures. Yes we need to get honest people in the government but first we must produce honest people. I am afraid it might be a little late for that one for this generation but maybe we can make a better generation. People can be taught, at least some. I am afraid though some of that might have to be taught by consequences given by God to get some to wake up. Many have forgotten God needs to be a partner when raising a family. This I find is really sad that the most important Father has been left out of the picture after all I or my husband are not perfect and I need someone who is to help me shape my family. Let us change this nation one family at a time.

    • justice1st

      well said

  • No fool

    Fake testicles dangling from the trailer hitch is not bumper sticker. The law specifies “bumper sticker”. I can only assume the office was offended by not having a pair of his own. Only a corrupt cop would make up his own laws. As far as my horses go, if they offend anyone, that’s too damn bad.

  • hbmac

    I saw a bumper sticker that said ” Half tons are for wusies “, but the word on the sticker was not “wusies”, just as this guy was expressing an opinion about his truck being a 3/4 ton this woman might
    be expressing an opinion that her truck has balls.
    Some people really love thier trucks.

  • Janet Kugler

    In the central plains you will see cattle trucks and pickups with the the actually ball of bull hanging from trailer hitch!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Maybe the woman needs to be a little more careful backing and snagged something!!!

  • http://www.antikakistocrat.blogspot.com Karl Uppiano

    The first amendment was intended to protect political speech, but in order to do that, it must also protect prurient, gross, offensive, pornographic, bigoted, hate speech as well.

    People get upset when someone tries to censor one of the above, but we don’t seem very concerned when things such as the “fairness doctrine”, which used to be imposed on broadcasters under the penalty of law (and loss of license). Now, John Kerry is saying that the media should not give equal time to tea parties (as if they did). It’s a good thing we didn’t elect him Emperor in 2004.

  • http://facebook ADRoberts

    Sorry, all you people who rationalize the VALID (NOT) reasons that this act was acceptable. It WAS NOT.

    IT WAS OBSCENE AND SHE DESERVES THE TICKET.

    By the way, you people are like boiling a frog. The longer you go, the more you accept as being acceptable. At the rate you are going, you will advocate close pictures of penile penetration on the street corner as having some valid reason to be tolerated.

    God seems to be giving you over to a depraved mind. You have no standards, ethics or morality. And then you complain when some steals your stuff.

    • Vicki

      Don’t you just HATE it when you have to share your freedom with people you don’t like?

      • justice1st

        I don’t. That’s what freedom is all about. How are you going to use your freedom – to uplift, or tear down the morals of the American children?

    • justice1st

      Someone with some real sense!

  • wisdom

    The Supreme Court missed the mark. Whose “Contemporary community standards”? South Carolina’s or San Francisco’s? Can you honestly have different legal interpretations of the 1st amendment depending where in the Union you live? NO. Hopefully some well heeled lawyers will feel the same way and take this one to the Supreme Court for a review and rewrite of the Miller standard.
    As for ADRoberts, I protect and defend your right to say what you did. Although I don’t see the correlation between bull balls from a trailer hitch and ‘close pictures of penile penetration on the street corner’. I do believe the Miller standard would side with you on that one.

  • Bob from Calif.

    Just another case of an over zealous cop thinking that his opinion should override the 1st amendment.

  • http://moniquer7 Merlin

    Putting something like that on the back of your truck is probably stupid but so is the citation. As far as being offensive, Well there is always someone who will find almost anything offensive. Some might see a bumper sticker to support you local police offensive. Where do we draw the line?

    • Vicki

      We all probably know people who would find Bush/Obama bumper stickers to be quite obscene. I have a liberal friend who is offended every time I use President Bush’s name and Obama’s name in the same sentence.

      No accounting for taste.

  • JJ

    Although I tend to agree with many of you, I would think the time spent arguing about this is better spent getting rid of the current politicians we have in office an appointing people that would carry out the will of the people instead. After all that is what our founding fathers had in mine when they designed it. Not so wealthy career politicians could rape the less fortunate.

    P.S. Just sayin!

    • Vicki

      Since the “will of the people” is so varied I think clarifying the meaning of freedom of ….. is rather necessary for us to resolve so we know what to teach the people we would replace the current politicians with.

      P.S.S. Just sayin :)

      • Hope For American

        Vicki, I don’t think we need to teach any new politicians anything. Just give them a copy of the Constitution and demand they read and abide by the damn thing. That’s the ‘Peoples’ law.

        • Vicki

          pray that we don’t need to teach them to read. The current ones sure can’t.

  • J.M.FELS,,NEW JERSEY

    So i bet this officer has castrated all the male dogs ..and cattle. cats, and all the male species in the zoo’s….I guess her fake testiclesl were bigger than his…….I am a devoute christian and i dont see them offensive….also i bet this officer oogolles all the young females in very small two piece.bikinins..with lustfull intents..

  • just a thinker

    That Sheriff is wasting time & money. Making a name for himself at the public expense. I suspect he’ll be running for “higher office” next year.

    I think the name he is making for himself is “Fuda: No-balls.”

  • Thor

    “Remember: The 1st Amendment, when correctly applied, should make us uncomfortable — because it applies to everyone.” That’s an astute observation, Bob. Maybe someone who is uncomfortable with this sort of thing should tear a page out of the secular humanist progressive handbook and slither out there on his belly in the dark of night and give that ole pick’em up truck a castration–remove those offensive items offensively…like they did that cross at the Veterans’ Memorial out in the Mojave. Just remember to dob a little creosote on the wound. Would that be the kind of discomfort you mean?

    • James

      Thor, The First Amendment starts with: “Congress shall make no law…” It applies to the federal government. The Bill of Rights is restrictions the States placed upon their just-formed federal government. No power over rights was delegated to Congress, and the founders wanted to make it clear that the powers that were delegated wouldn’t be misconstrued to include rights.
      Rights are unalienable gifts from God, they are not dependent on any document for their existence.

  • leofa

    i think the chief should be the one to have his balls removed.

    • Hope For American

      Leofa, one would have to use a NASA telescope to find the coward’s balls. People sometimes say, ‘Damn, he has balls!’ It doesn’t take balls to be a cop. It takes a coward who carries a gun and tries to control people that they’re supposed to protect. The gun is what gives them courage, for they act as if they are the employers and not the employees. We need to turn the tides and tell them who they really are – EMPLOYEES OF THE UNITED STATES TAXPAYERS.

    • Hope For American

      If you ever get the chance, please read the book, ‘Triumph Over Tragedy’ by Trafford Publishing. It details what states, detectives, police officers, and an attorney did to a girl. What almost killed her, besides all of the above, was when someone murdered her attorney. Can anyone please tell me that justice for all reigns in this country? There’s corruption throughout the entire system, beginning with the lowest paid servant, the school system which only teaches progressive ideas, and it goes all the way up the ladder to the president. From there, it leads to the trillion dollar thieves who have used Americans to feather their nests by taking away the gold and silver standard stated in the Constitution. Our so-called elected officials have allowed those Bildenburg bastards to steal Americans blind, and pretty soon everyone will be their slaves if we don’t stand up right now, or yesterday. Barack Obama has to go and so do those wealthy ‘white’ deviants such as the Bush’s, Clinton’s, Rick Perry, the Rockfellow’s, the Rothchild’s, the queens, kings, dictators, and the names are endless until you reach the number 200 because it’s the wealthiest who will be controling the world and how the so-called average people will behave and live. I don’t think I’d like to live the rest of my life in such a situation, especially when it’s control by satonic beings.

      • denniso

        Wow! Schools teaching only ‘progressive’ things…I guess,like reading,writing and arithmetic,plus english,spanish,french,science,geography. What a tragedy!

        I wish you luck in ‘getting rid’ of the ‘endless’ list of tyrants and elites and oppresors…you go boy!

        • DaveH
          • bob wire

            Hmm? Kind of disappointing for sure.

            But rather then lay blame at a few peoples door step, I’d come near to blaming our culture in America today.

            Our educators don’t agree with what happening today but they are not in control. The media seems to be.

            This attempting to make a silk purse out of a sows ear has limited results. The children in America today, like their parents have too many distractions competing for attention and are bombarded by superfluous words and events that eat up personal “TIME”

  • http://hughes.net Researcher

    DenseO,
    Go to a search engine like GOOGLE, type in Communist Manifesto, clic on first item and read, unless it’s changed since I did, You will find out just how Communistic the US is !!
    And a tip for you, Karl Marx, who wrote the Communist Manifesto, his real name was Mose Moridaci Levi, son of a JEWISH RAABI !!!
    AND, a question for you. Why are we trading so heavily with Communist China ?? Because we are sufficiently Communistic so as not to be a threat anymore !!

    • denniso

      We trade w/ China because we are a capitalist country and we want to make money…simple. We have traded w/ all sorts of ‘evil’ countries for the sake of money.

  • Public Citizen

    Well Elmer Fudd the red neck sheriff is setting himself up for a real hard fall.
    The plastic testicles that have become a sudden fad with all the >illegally modified< jacked up truck owners are fake bulls testicles. These have been available for years at truckstops. They are an attempt to cash in on something that livestock haulers have been doing for years, ie. hanging a pair of REAL bulls testicles on the rear of their trailer.
    I guess all the pickup drivers out there driving around without a set of faux testicles on their vehicle are driving around in girl trucks?

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    There are 2 important things to consider here. First, I agree with those who say police chiefs and law enforcement agencies should set priorities straight. In a way, obscene sticker laws are almost as stupid as safety belt and helmet laws. We’ve heard police departments bragging about the high volume of tickets they write for people who violate such stupid laws. Well, in all the time they waste protecting us from ourselves, how many acts of road rage, texting while driving or DWI are going unpunished?? In the time wasted on obscenity laws, how many innocent people are being robbed ….. or worse??

    As to the 1st Amendment, here we also need to set priorities straight. Did our founders intend to protect obscenity or pornography?? Or was the intent to protect our right to worship and political protest against would-be tyrants?? I think the latter was the intent. But it seems the 1st Amendment is a one-way street for leftwing liberals. E.g., their political correctness says it’s perfectly okay for gays/lesbians to speak out and brag about their lewd acts, and even to indoctrinate school age children about it!! Yet they don’t want us to talk about what the Bible says about the warped LGBT lifestyle. In this way, the PC leftists probably deem us to be offensive. Thus so-called ‘hate crime’ laws are a thinly disguised infringement on our freedom of worship. And don’t forget about Tea Parties, Fox News, conservative talk show hosts, and websites like THIS. The leftists want to stifle and silence all of us because we are their opposition!! Therefore, let’s protect THIS, and worry about obscenity cases later!!

    • James

      Earl, The intent of the Founding Fathers, by adding the Bill of Rights, was to prevent the federal government from exercising any law over rights. It begins with “Congress shall make no law…,” that’s what it says, and that’s all that it means.

  • DaveH

    After reading most of the comments, I can see why our Freedom has slipped away. People are too easily distracted by small potatoes and not focused enough on the really important issues. The Political Class uses these small issues to keep growing their power and perks at the rest of our expense. While the Government magician distracts you with one hand, they do their dirty work with the other hand.
    We need to quit focusing on the stupid things that people do to themselves, and start focusing on what people in Government do to other people. A girl puts an admittedly disgusting but relatively benign pair of huevos on her truck, and the Government response is to cost her and the taxpayers thousands of dollars (what I call Legal Mugging). I would say the punishment is rather excessive for the “crime”.
    What we SHOULD be focusing on are the Government abuses of the really important moral issues, the issues that the vast majority of people agree are wrong — Killing and Theft. Yet, many of us (probably most) turn a blind eye to those morals when broken by Government and even rationalize why it is necessary. Yet, all rationalization aside, the Mainstream Americans aren’t allowed to break those same moral codes. Why is that? Why can’t Mainstream Americans kill and steal, but we allow the people in the Political Class to do those things?

    For those who advocate Consistency in Principles, there is a Political Party and we need your support — Register and Vote Libertarian.
    For Individual Liberty, Personal Responsibility, Limited Government, Free Markets, and PEACE:
    http://libertarianparty.org/platform

    • JeffH

      DaveH, I’m with ya…as usual, very well said…freedom cannot be selective…you’re either for it or against it…people have to “man up” and take the good and the bad that comes with freedom.

      • bob wire

        true perhaps, but I see freedom as an abstract notion.

        Freedom has limitations in the civilized social world by necessity.

        I’m not free, I’ve never been free and don’t think that I’d want to be free. ~ while I do enjoy certain freedoms.

        and of course what freedoms I do enjoy was paid for by earlier Americans.

        As today, I too pay forward and fight to keep these hard fought gains for those that follow.

    • bob wire

      Amen Brother Dave, well said.

      These distraction into the abyss of La La Land is draining us.

  • jopa

    DaveH: “After reading these comments, I can see why our Freedom has slipped away.People are too easily distracted by small potatoes and not really focused enough on the important issues”.Nobody is more distracted than you are Mr. Dave.You have made 19 comments on the topic of a bumper with balls.We know where your priorities are and you want others to be different than you.Really though I do agree with your last comment,very well said.

    • DaveH

      All of my comments are consistent with my beliefs, Jopa. Unlike you, I don’t change my Priciples based on whether or not my favorite Politicians are embracing them this year.

    • DaveH

      By the way, Jopa, your vain attempt at revenge is transparently obvious.

      • JeffH

        …actually in the same vain as EWO…extremely envious I would say!

  • enufisenuf

    so…. if the bull went out in public, he would have to cover his balls? to not break the law?

    • JeffH

      :) … Not at all because it is natural…but…if a bull is out in public there could be some legal problems for the owner(s)…if there are leash laws? LOL!

      • bob wire

        more like restraint laws. ~ stock is haltered and if that not enough to control a beast there many other things to control stock, such as hobbling, de-horning,pride-cutting or a ring in their nose.

  • Freedom

    I think that Police Chief, must have lost his Balls and thought she stole them and hung them on her truck. There is far worse stuff on regular TV these days than this.

    • Christin

      Freedom,

      That’s for sure… was flipping through the TV guide (menu) and found a show called…”Knocked Up’… wow, have they stooped low.

      But then again, I don’t have to watch the stupid shows on TV, but I may have to glance at weird truck ornaments as I drive by.

  • bob wire

    There was a woman with VW beetle a few months back with a picture of her fuzzy muffin painted and covering the front hood. If memory serves, it was in California.

    The local “Do Right Boys” took exception as well and appealed to the ladies better judgment.

    While I’m a muffin man by nature, I’d could come nearer to overlooking a large scrotum swinging below a pickup truck bumper then a hairy groomed twat plastered on the front of an automobile.

  • Jay

    In 1971, Saul Alinsky wrote an entertaining classic on grassroots organizing titled Rules for Radicals. Those who prefer cooperative tactics describe the book as out-of-date. Nevertheless, it provides some of the best advice on confrontational tactics. Alinsky begins this way:

    What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to what they believe it should be. The Prince was written by Machiavelli for the Haves on how to hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it away.

    His “rules” derive from many successful campaigns where he helped poor people fighting power and privilege

    For Alinsky, organizing is the process of highlighting what is wrong and convincing people they can actually do something about it. The two are linked. If people feel they don’t have the power to change a bad situation, they stop thinking about it.

    According to Alinsky, the organizer — especially a paid organizer from outside — must first overcome suspicion and establish credibility.

    Next the organizer must begin the task of agitating: rubbing resentments, fanning hostilities, and searching out controversy. This is necessary to get people to participate.

    An organizer has to attack apathy and disturb the prevailing patterns of complacent community life where people have simply come to accept a bad situation. Alinsky would say, “The first step in community organization is community disorganization.”

    Through a process combining hope and resentment, the organizer tries to create a “mass army” that brings in as many recruits as possible from local organizations, churches, services groups, labor unions, corner gangs, and individuals.

    Alinsky provides a collection of rules to guide the process. But he emphasizes these rules must be translated into real-life tactics that are fluid and responsive to the situation at hand.

    Rule 1: Power is not only what you have, but what an opponent thinks you have. If your organization is small, hide your numbers in the dark and raise a din that will make everyone think you have many more people than you do.

    Rule 2: Never go outside the experience of your people.
    The result is confusion, fear, and retreat.

    Rule 3: Whenever possible, go outside the experience of an opponent. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.

    Rule 4: Make opponents live up to their own book of rules. “You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.”

    Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.

    Rule 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. “If your people aren’t having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic.”

    Rule 7: A tactic that drags on for too long becomes a drag. Commitment may become ritualistic as people turn to other issues.

    Rule 8: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use all events of the period for your purpose. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to your advantage.”

    Rule 9: The threat is more terrifying than the thing itself. When Alinsky leaked word that large numbers of poor people were going to tie up the washrooms of O’Hare Airport, Chicago city authorities quickly agreed to act on a longstanding commitment to a ghetto organization. They imagined the mayhem as thousands of passengers poured off airplanes to discover every washroom occupied. Then they imagined the international embarrassment and the damage to the city’s reputation.

    Rule 10: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Avoid being trapped by an opponent or an interviewer who says, “Okay, what would you do?”

    Rule 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Don’t try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.

    According to Alinsky, the main job of the organizer is to bait an opponent into reacting. “The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength.”

    http://www.vcn.bc.ca/citizens-handbook/rules.html

  • Jay

    So Alinsky dedicates his book, Rules For Radicals, to Lucifer. His explanation is that Lucifer was “the first radical” and that he rebelled against the establishment. Alinsky wrote “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins—or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom—Lucifer.”

    It never ceases to amaze me. The way socialists defeat themselves again and again, due to a weakness which they are convinced is their greatest strength—the weakness of their intellect.

    First of all, socialists reject absolute truth. So, if in their world nothing can really be true, they cannot use logic because logic depends on truth. And the leftists, all leftists, have denied themselves access to the rational method. I would ask—why do this to yourself?

    This embrace of irrationalism seems to have fooled Alinsky, as it has most if not all leftists. But Alinsky has provided the opportunity to point out another oversight in his clever little scheme, an oversight shared by his followers. (Alinsky didn’t have the brains to realize that his socialist mind had outdone itself, as such minds always do.)

    Now, Alinsky had it right. Lucifer was the first rebel known to man. But think about it—Lucifer was also the first wannabe.

    That’s right, the first wannabe.

    I believe this realization might be salt on the wound for progressives, because I know that leftist ideology creates an underlying sense of loss of authenticity. But why keep looking the other way. Why not heal the wound?

    So to leftists everywhere, including Bill Ayers, Barack Obama and George Soros: nobody is forcing you to follow the first wannabe. And nobody is forcing you to believe the Lie.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2528437/posts

  • Jay

    Saul Alinsky’s book “Rules for Radicals,” first published in 1971, has been read and assimilated by a number of those who espouse a Far Left agenda. Our current Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, wrote her senior thesis on Alinsky while at Wellesley College. The following excerpt is from that paper.

    “Much of what Alinsky professes does not sound ‘radical.’ His are the words used in our schools and churches, by our parents and their friends, by our peers.”

  • Jay

    Dear American Organized Labor Officials,

    I am “Lucifer” but you may call me “Satan”. I am elated by how you use union resources to advance my issues like abortion or the destruction of the American family through your successful support for the homosexual agenda and same sex marriage.

    I am the beast of deception, mystification and doubletalk. I am out to exploit your families, destroy your culture, abandon your values, devastate your morality, kill your unborn, turn your children into practicing homosexuals and put America on its knees to my altar.

    I am lining you and those you love up for my cruise to the eternal fire of damnation. You have never seen or tasted the kind of revulsion I have for mankind… I AM SATAN!

    In 2005, Top officials in the AFL-CIO Executive Council passed an important resolution favoring the legitimization of homosexual relations. It calls for supporting the “full inclusion of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people into the workplace and society.

    Today you slice needed benefits from your powerless God fearing struggling retirees who worked all of their lives to earn them and then “gift” these benefits to practicing same-sex homosexual free loaders who have nothing to do with the workplace! Such tremendously convoluted use of union power! You really make my tail tingle and my “just rewards” for you will be “just amazing” when you cross over to me… after we burn your bridge behind you! Just remember that this is not the inferno of the free and organized down here.

    There will be no union representatives, no strikes, no reconciliation and no caucusing here. There will be no wage improvements, worker dignity, paid holidays or health care benefits although health insurance could be of use here.

    • bob wire

      And union resources are bad because? ~ they are extorted from the unwilling? (can you prove that as a prevailing attitude?)

      Hmm? you mean kinda like my tax burden that is used in the financing of things that I don’t approve of, wouldn’t do or support in any fashion? That the refusal to paid my taxes results in government liens on my property along with penalties and interest? Simple because I refused to support! Wonderful!

      Like the NTTA (north texas transit authority) letter I have on my desk that is demanding $14.50 plus $2.50 for a truck I use to own blasting by a TOLL Booth without paying. (they have picture proof, yep! it’s my old truck alright) but I don’t own it and I wasn’t the driver.

      That I signed and released the title many month before the event doesn’t seem to matter. I’m being extorted to act, defend myself or pay up.

      So if you are looking for some “fairness” employing tunnel vision, I hope that you find some.

      I’ve seen little lately.

      • DaveH

        I have known no Unions which didn’t employ some sort of coercion or force to achieve their goals. If they aren’t forcing an unwilling worker to join or pay dues even if not joining (closed shops), they are harassing customers and replacement workers with their picket lines in an effort to extort more money from their employer. And then there’s the flat out violence which Unionized Policemen tend to conveniently ignore since it comes from their Union kin:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t27fiOMqW_A

    • bob wire

      Jay, your posting reeks of demonizing.

      While I too take a dim view of homosexual activity and same sex marriage as I fail to find meaningful purpose for prorogation of the species in such a union.

      I do not harbor the hate for them in my heart while down deep I want not part of it. I don’t want to see it or know of it on any personal level.

      But the creator seen fit to create them at a ratio of about 8 to 9% of the population. I accept them while I failed to fully understand the intent or purpose. This failure to fully understand all the many nuances of life is common and comes only with time and enlightenment.

      We should welcome confusion as it is a precursor to enlightenment.

      Accept what we don’t know as simple as being unknown for now.

      Homosexuals are not like Brussels Sprouts where we can deny they exist and refuse to allow them into your world. ~

      They are here, they have always been here and will always be here regardless of your or my feeling.

      The DNC is an all inclusive party, they have welcome into their ranks all peoples, often time at great cost and political disadvantage.

      You don’t have to be affiliated with the DNC (we baby killers as you call us) ~ it’s not forced upon you.

      But attempt to offer some modest respect for opposition.

      We, more then most take a bitter pill daily and put our own personal preferences aside for some common civility.

      But what option do we have? Civil war?

    • James

      Jay, Lucifer is indeed the prince of this world, and will remain so until our Lord Jesus returns. If God says do it this way, Satan says do it that way. Leviticus 20:13 reads: “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.” Satan’s world, in Lawrence v. Texas, says such laws are unconstitutional. And now Congress is considering a Bill that will allow same-sex couples to adopt children like any other couple. Satan wins again.

  • jopa

    Daveh My comment wasn’t a matter of revenge it was a matter of fact.I compliment you on your comment in the end that I did agree with some of it.However I did not know the politicians that you follow were embracing ornamental trailer hitches this year.Names please.Then I get a comment from the smaller half of the Mutt and Jeff section.What’s his problem?Have a good one.

    • DaveH

      Jopa,
      What we embrace is Freedom, from the coercive Force of Government, to control our own bodies and property.
      You have no legs to stand on. My kind of people don’t embrace gross behavior. Nowhere in my comments did I embrace that behavior. You know that. But, like the typical Liberal, you must put words in my mouth since you have no logical way to stand up to me.

      • James

        DaveH, If you would define what you mean by “freedom” by a few phrases, we might get a better idea of what you mean by it. Freedom to do what?

    • JeffH

      “I get a comment from the smaller half of the Mutt and Jeff section. What’s his problem?”

      I wouldn’t expect that I’m the one with the problem here jopa, quite the opposite I would say. What I find most amusing is that you are seriously asking.

    • bob wire

      Jopa, they don’t accept compliments from the enemy. You and I are seen as the enemy you know. We and Dennis are not part of the choir

      It’s more of a GWB mindset, ~ “you are either with us or against us” or “is you is or is you ain’t my baby” however you wish to understand it.

      It’s a sad state of affairs I know, where the merits of any issue can’t be discussed without inflammatory banter , half truths, circular reasoning, innuendo’s, veiled racial, condescending overtones, debasing, demonizing but that’s just the way it is here.

      Dave says the left doesn’t have a leg to stand on, I say the GOP doesn’t have a track record to stand on and the very reason they would rather have you focus on something else. If they can’t win with brilliance,they are left to baffle with bullsh1t.

      But ! to their credit, behind all of this banter and polarizing talk they are slowly reshaping the GOP. That’s a good thing for it needed a good house cleaning and no one person or small group of persons could effect change.

      I might not agree with all of these changes they work for but status quo had to be broken to let some light into the room.

      • DaveH

        What I see from you and Jopa, Bob, are two ignorant people who think they know best how to run my life.

        • JeffH

          There was a time when I might have said “it makes one wonder” but not any more. Some just prefer to live their lives in a small box away from the realities that surround them, then again, others just deal with it.

          • Jay

            Jeff & Dave, they don’t accept compliments from the enemy. You and I are seen as the enemy you know. We are not part of the choir.

            It’s more of a leftist/progressive mindset, ~ “you are either with us or against us” or “is you is or is you ain’t my baby” however you wish to understand it.

            It’s a sad state of affairs I know, where the merits of any issue can’t be discussed without inflammatory banter , half truths, circular reasoning, innuendo’s, veiled racial, condescending overtones, debasing, demonizing but that’s just the way it is here.

            bob wire says the right doesn’t have a leg to stand on, I say the left doesn’t have a track record to stand on and the very reason they would rather have you focus on something else. If they can’t win with brilliance,they are left to baffle with bullsh1t.

  • Jay

    ‘Irrefutable’ proof of Obama forgery
    WND ^ | July 16, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi
    Posted on July 18, 2011 7:28:59 AM EDT by RobinMasters

    NEW YORK – Unless the typewriter used to type Barack Obama’s purported Hawaiian “Certificate of Live Birth” in 1961 was magically capable of producing different size and shaped images with the exact same key, the document released by the White House April 27 is a forgery, says a professional typographer with 50 years experience.

    “Steel-stamped letters do not expand to larger sizes and morph into different styles of type,” retired New York City typographer Paul Irey told WND.

    As WND previously reported, it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter, according to Irey.

    “These are irrefutable proofs of forgery,” he said.

    His newest analysis suggests the document was assembled from images of letters or words taken from other documents.

    “The forger who produced the Obama Hawaii long-form birth certificate may have thought that all typewriter typeface styles were alike,” he said.

    “To get his letters, the forger must have understood that he needed to copy the old typewriter styles,” he continued. “So the forger probably scanned a bunch of old birth certificates, without realizing that the letters in the old files were from different typewriter styles. That’s why the letters in the forged document do not match each other.”

    Irey used as a source document the Xerox copy of the Obama birth certificate the White House press staff handed to the press assembled in the White House pressroom on April 27, as seen in Exhibit 1:

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=322389

    • DaveH

      I wonder what kind of obtuse remark you will get from Bob Wire on this one.

  • Jay

    CERTIFIGATE
    Leaders, media ‘hiding what they know’ about Obama eligibility
    Investigator says, ‘I can’t wait to see Nancy Pelosi in an orange jumpsuit’

    Posted: July 16, 2011
    12:00 am Eastern

    President Barack Obama in the Oval Office April 4, 2011
    The private investigator who has confirmed that Barack Obama is using a Social Security number issued to a Connecticut address, when he allegedly was in high school in Hawaii at the time it was assigned, says the leaders in American government as well as the mainstream media are aiding and abetting in concealing the truth from the American public.

    “They are hiding what they know to be the truth, that he’s not eligible to be president,” Susan Daniels said today. “I can’t wait to see Nancy Pelosi in an orange jumpsuit.”

    Her comments came in an interview with WND CEO Joseph Farah, who was sitting in for the vacationing G. Gordon Liddy today on his show that is live-streamed at WND and Radio America.

    Get the New York Times best-seller “Where’s the Birth Certificate? The Case that Barack Obama Is Not Eligible to be President,” autographed by Jerome Corsi.

    WND has reported on the issue of Obama’s Social Security number. In fact, a lawsuit is pending now in Washington over a Freedom of Information Act dispute regarding the original, which remains sealed in the state of Hawaii.

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=322517
    The first three digits of a Social Security number indicate the state of the applicant’s mailing address. Obama’s number begins with 042, which falls within Connecticut’s range of 040 through 049.

    The national news media have been virtually silent on this potentially criminal fact.

    Indeed, when Fox News finally attempted to explain it, the news network broadcast false information and then scrubbed the report from its website.

    When WND asked the White House about the issue, then–Press Secretary Robert Gibbs dodged the question.

    The Freedom of Information case by Orly Taitz’ is against Social Security Commissioner Michael Astrue, and explains that because of the numerous questions surrounding Obama’s eligibility, his birth certificate and his other records, the information should be released.

    • DaveH

      The politicians have become so accustomed to a dumbed-down electorate that they have become brazen in their dishonesty.
      It’s time for all the sheeple to wake up.

    • James

      Jay, The complete Social Security number is 042-68-4425. It was originally issued to a man born in France in 1890. He emigrated to the United States and became a U.S. citizen in the 1920s. So says Pat Shannan in his American Free Press article. He also wrote: “The Social Security Administration does not re-issue a number after a person’s death, and it is illegal to use another’s as one’s own.” Shannan points out that securing a S.S. number requires an American birth certificate, which could account for the fact, why Obama didn’t have his own S.S. number – no birth certificae.

  • DaveH
  • jopa

    bob wire;When New Jersey governor Christie called the Birther’s and Tea party folks the Crazies he hit it right on the head.There sure are plenty of them here but not all.Many of the Tea party folks are coming to there senses and leaving the party now that they know the Koch brothers are sponsoring it and it doesn’t really represent what they started out doing.

    • DaveH

      Those, who want to see what the Liberal Politics of Class Envy get you, need only to look at the countries on the bottom of this list:
      http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

      • Jay

        Dave, here’s an interesting tid-bit.

        George Soros made around $700,000 trading shares of the company that owns those new TSA scanners that everyone hates.

        Here’s how he did it.

        The maker of the TSA scanners, Rapiscan, got a $165 million contract for the new body image scanners four days after the underwear-bomber incident this past Christmas, according to the Examiner’s Tim Carney.

        Shortly after, Soros made a profit off the jump in share price.

        Soros had bought shares in OSI Systems, which owns Rapiscan, worth ~$316,000 around Christmas. He owned 8,700 shares as of December 31st, according to his 13F. OSI was a new investment for Soros. He owned none as of September 30, 2010.

        Currently (as of March 31, 2011, the most recent day Soros Fund had to report long holdings), he owns 7,600 shares of OSI Systems, the company that owns the maker of the scanners, according to his Soros Fund’s latest 13F holdings report.

        We did some quick math and estimated that his earnings could be around $700,000 if he bought on the dip (December 2, 2010) and sold 1,100 shares at the peak (February 15, 2010). Or, on the lower end of the standard deviation, if he bought at the peak higher and sold on March 4th, he would have made around $160,000.

        Not a bad profit off of a company that’s gotten terrible press.

        http://www.businessinsider.com/george-soros-made-7-million-off-those-body-scanners-everyone-hates-2011-7

  • Jay

    How To Destroy America

    You do not need to start a war to destroy America. You do not need to explode a series of nuclear devices in a dozen cities to destroy America. Former Colorado Governor Richard Lamm gave some insight on the subject.

    If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, and too rich, then let us destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Historian Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that “An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.”

    First, to destroy America, you need to turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy. Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.

    Second, proceed to invent and promote “multi-cultural doctrine” and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal and that there are no cultural differences. Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

    Third, we could make the United States a “Hispanic Quebec” without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz in the Atlantic Monthly recently said, “The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.”

    Encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. Replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities.

    Fourth, make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. Add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population and have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school.

    Fifth, America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. Invest in ethnic identity, and establish the cult of “Victimology”. Get all minorities to firmly believe that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. Start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population.

    Sixth, America’s downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. Advance the celebration of diversity over unity. Stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other – that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedents. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common Language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic Games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. “E. Pluribus Unum” – From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the “Pluribus” instead of the “Unum”, America will become balkanize and divided as surely as Kosovo is today.

    Seventh, place all subjects off limits. Make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of “diversity”. Find a word similar to “heretic” in the 16th century – that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like “racist” or “xenophobe” halt discussion and debate. Complete the implementation of making America a bilingual/bicultural country, establishing multi-cultural doctrine, and having the large foundations fund the doctrine of “Victimology”. Next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. Develop a mantra that because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. Then make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them.

    Eighth, Victor Hanson Davis’s book “Mexifornia” needs to be heavily censored. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you believe that America deserves to be destroyed, DO NOT READ THAT BOOK!!!

    Every American knows that everything stated here is proceeding methodically, quietly, and in a dark state pervasively moving across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate “diversity”. American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America – take note of California and other states – to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell’s book “1984″. In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: “War is peace”, “Freedom is slavery”, and “Ignorance is strength”.

    American citizens and the future of this great democracy are in deep trouble and worsening fast. If we as a nation do not get this immigration monster stopped quickly, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path especially The American Dream.

    And there you go – the blueprint for the destruction of America. It is the very same plan that is being enacted and promoted by the Left-Wing throughout America every single day.

    http://www.targetofopportunity.com/destroy_america.htm

    • James

      Jay, I agree, divesity is our enemy. Congressmen who say diversity is our strength, are our enemy. London is experiencing the glory of diversity, there are ethnic riots and wars in the streets, and buildings are being brokem into and burglarized.
      Birds of a feather flock together, when immigrants come here they bring their fetishes and culture with them, they don’t become like us.

  • http://www.trailertrashman.com richard

    I am a strong supporter of the 1st amendment. I believe good art should be humorous, make one think and offend small minded a*s holes, so are are you enlightened or not?
    I built an abstract sculpture of a 12′ man with a 3′ flaming penis, when my neighbors opened their door one thanksgiving they show what had been in my front yard and called the police and tried to have me arrested for obscenity. I had been to the fire department to get their ok and then a newspaper http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2004-01-01/culture/off-to-see-the-wizardry/ which published pictures before the police showed up. The funniest line from a woman cop was and it has balls of steel. They might have been offended but realized they could not arrest me. I have been told that a performance of abstract art having sex can have me arrested. I just need some donations to finish “TrailerTrash Space Lady” To push the boundaries and see what happens when trailerTrashMan shoots fire up her butt and she shoots fireballs from her head.
    Bull Balls like the lady had on her truck have been sold all over the country and they will have a hard time making the charges stick, but what an inconvenience for the lady who has been charged.

  • Aranna

    I think a lawsuit over such a silly thing is a waste of taxpayers money and the courts time. Maybe if the officer had a set he wouldn’t feel so threatened!

    If you are aware of the old cliche about small men needing big trucks? Then its only natural for the big truck to compensate all areas of the drivers inadequacy hahahahahahahaha!!! I do think they are funny, and knowing they are on a truck owned by a woman seems only fitting. How else do you expect her to get any respect from other big trucks?? hahahahahahahahahah!!!!

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