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Obama’s War

March 23, 2011 by  

Obama’s War

(Part two of a two part series about Presidents and the Middle East)

President Barack Obama is not who the world thought he was. His policies, including the attack on Libya starting last weekend, prove it.

Candidate Obama promised peace in the Middle East. Yet with Libya, the President is using the same logic and rhetoric as George W. Bush used during the U.S. war against Iraq that began nine years earlier to the day.

After presenting his message of diplomacy it was no surprise that when he took office Obama was viewed by the world as the most highly regarded U.S. President since John F. Kennedy. But as the Middle East has crumbled under the weight of hate and violence, Obama first sat on the sidelines for weeks, refusing to take on even the vilest of America’s enemies; men like Libyan leader Colonel Moammar Gadhafi.

Finally, on March 17, the Obama administration, lead by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, joined a United Nations resolution that permits "all necessary measures" to impose a no-fly zone, protect civilian areas and impose a ceasefire on Gadhafi’ s military. Enforcement will rely only on air power as the resolution rules out sending ground troops, at least for now. Two days later the U.S. launched its first attacks; ostensibly to “save lives” in Libya.

But as Bush 43 proved in Iraq, no-fly zones can soon be transformed to boots on the ground, and that could mean yet another U.S. war on Arab soil. This is most disconcerting because the United States is already fighting a two-front war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Last week I wrote about Presidents Ronald Reagan through George W. Bush and their mismanagement in the Middle East. With the region dissolving into mayhem, I thought it important to put this week’s focus on Obama.

Some analysts were calling it Obama’s "deer-in-the-headlights" doctrine. On key issues from Tunisia to Egypt the Obama administration has not shaped events in a positive way, even though it has been the U.S. that has been instrumental in creating this Middle East crisis.

According to the Daily Star, “As revolution has spread from the Maghreb to the Gulf region and back again, President Barack Obama has stuttered and fumbled and sometimes fallen strangely silent. What can explain this from a man whose manner has always been smooth and whose oratorical gifts propelled him from utter obscurity to the White House in just four short years?”

The newspaper went on to ask: “Why has the president seemed so indifferent to democracy in the Middle East?”

The simple answer is that Obama does not have the wherewithal to lead. The other answer is more complicated; that Obama is purposefully undermining democracy in the region and launching a war to help his bid for re-election.

So who is the real Obama? It is an important question with blood being spilled on a daily basis in the Middle East and in the wake of oil prices spiking at more than $100 per barrel, more than twice as high as they were the day Obama was elected.

It is hard to reconcile the differences between candidate Obama and President Obama. It was candidate Obama that gave an inspirational speech in Cairo on June 4, 2009:

“That does not lessen my commitment, however, to governments that reflect the will of the people. Each nation gives life to this principle in its own way, grounded in the traditions of its own people. America does not presume to know what is best for everyone, just as we would not presume to pick the outcome of a peaceful election. But I do have an unyielding belief that all people yearn for certain things: the ability to speak your mind and have a say in how you are governed; confidence in the rule of law and the equal administration of justice; government that is transparent and doesn’t steal from the people; the freedom to live as you choose. These are not just American ideas; they are human rights. And that is why we will support them everywhere.”

We are approaching the second anniversary of that speech. Middle East regimes have collapsed and the U.S. is in yet another war. It remains to be seen exactly how far Obama will use America’s military might in Libya. Whatever actions the President finally settles on, from Libya to Pakistan, it will translate into further Muslim extremism aimed against Americans.

True, Gadhafi has slaughtered thousands of his own civilians. At the same time, Obama leaves Saudi Arabia’s repression of democratic ideals unchallenged even though the House of Saud spends billions of dollars financing Islamic terrorist organizations.

Obama’s policies in the Middle East have been inconsistent. France and Britain first endorsed a no-fly zone over Libya to give anti-Gadhafi insurgents a fighting chance. It took the Obama administration weeks to catch up.

It is Obama’s job to be the leader of the free world, but he has failed miserably at that task. The result is a wave of unrest across the region and another war in yet another Arab country. Fox News has gone so far as to say that the President’s leadership in the Middle East has been nothing less than a “dereliction of duty.”

It could be that Obama is shell-shocked by the huge responsibilities of office; that he is not up to the job.

At stake is not only a democratic future for Libya, but America’s national interest. Libya has oil reserves of 41 billion barrels of crude, the largest of any African nation.

Every President from Ronald Reagan to George W. Bush stood for something, right or wrong. All were decisive. Obama seems to lack leadership qualities by first his hesitancy and now his impulsiveness. That is why he deserves a failing grade when it comes to the Middle East. I just hope his incompetence doesn’t lead to a ground war, this time in Libya.

Yours in good time and bad,

John Myers
Myers’ Energy & Gold Report

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • ASGreen

    John Myers, how dare you tear into Obama? He is doing exactly what he needs to do to bring a mad man like Momar Quadafi to justice for his crimes against innocent civilians. For the first time in decades the United States has a President who actually cares about people around the world and the freedoms and rights that they deserve.

    Maybe past Presidents have gotten it wrong, BUT NOT Barack Obama. This is his humanitarian mission that is saving lives and his handling of the Middle East deserves an A++.

    I am confident that President Obama will turn out to be a great leader like FDR was and won’t back down from critics who are on the wrong side of history.

    Obama = FREEDOM! And Mr. Myers, you too are on the WRONG side of history!

    • Kinetic1

      ASG,
      Don’t get too upset. The leanings of Mr. Mayer are clear in his choice of references; a partisan op-ed from two weeks ago about Obama’s lack of pride in America and the same old BS from FOX “news”. Tell us Mr. Mayers, when you say FOX “news” accused the President of “dereliction of duty” are you speaking of the FOX talking head complaining about his not fixing the situation in Japan? Maybe it was Gingrich telling Greta what the President should have been doing in the Gulf spill? Maybe it was their fussing over the Wiki-leaks scandal? Face it, no matter how Obama responds to anything. FOX “news” will find reason to complain about his dereliction of duty. It’s what their audience wants to hear. John Stewart pointed out that a FOX “news” host complained that the president had wasted time choosing his brackets instead of fixing the Middle East, then turned around and attacked him for not taking enough time in choosing his brackets!

      Face it, President Obama is more of a quiet leader. He works on diplomacy without making a big deal about it, and if it fails he take action without spending weeks prepping us with lies and speeches to bring us on board. Maybe you’d be happier if he flew over to an aircraft carrier parked off the San Diego coast and made a big victory speech?

      • http://ajb221@cox.net aj

        kinetic1 ; your are a total idot would you rather him lie to us about drilling for oil in this country instead of braizel he is going to lie and cheat the american people out of everything we own even our freedom

        • Denniso

          People like aj,Meyers,limbaugh and most here have nothing bu contempt for Obama,because he’s not a rightwing wacko who tells us he consults w/ Jesus before making decisions. They hated him before he was elected and will hate him until he leaves office in 2016,because he doesn’t genuflect before their foolish ideology,and he has a brain…they especially don’t like that last fact,he’s not a buffoon like they prefer their leaders to be.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Denniso:

            Nope, I am sure Little Barry does not consult with Jesus, but I am sure he consults with Alla and Soros.

            What makes you think Little Barry will be out of office after 2016?

          • rose

            Mr. Meyers and Fox news are right. Obama is not a leader. A leader brings people togather not split them apart. Obama can’t make a decision without consulting the UN. He has little respect for the american way of government which is for the people and by the people in this country not the UN. He does not think that he needs to consult our congress for the things that he does. I voted on the officals in congress and I feel that they should have a say in what our country does not the UN. Obama is tearing america apart and he does not care. That is his plan so that we can become depenpent on the UN and he can become the one world ruler.

          • Eddie47d

            O.H.; Read your taro cards!

          • Jay

            If only that were true, Denniso! Seems nothing attracts more decrepit and dilapidated moles like you, then when obama is being evaluated. You subversive snakes!!!

          • JC

            Actually Denniso,
            I think you’re selling the O man a little short saying he’s not a buffoon…he’s a “Tremendous Buffoon” and you should be proud of “your” leader! :)

          • Kate8

            rose – Very well said.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Rose:

            Little Barry is a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER / AGITATER, nothing more.

          • Ed

            So this is what an absolute moron sounds like ha ?? My god it’s no wonder we are in the mess we are in , with Idiots like you and you left wing MORONS having the right to vote !!! God help us all !!! I can’t wait for two years to pass. If we still have a country left, maybe , just maybe a good conservative can try and fix the unbelievable damage your moron god has managed to do in just two short years !!! PS you left wingers should go back to France were you belong !!

        • Harold Olsen

          “…he is going to lie and cheat the American people…”

          Lying and cheating is ALL this Nazi SOB has been doing since he took office. And, as usual, when crises hit, he leaves the country. He’s not just a liar, he’s a coward.

          Hopefully, in 2012, we’ll elect a REAL president–one who actually knows how to do the job. Obama doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground.

          • Bud Tugly

            Unlike the much revered Bush/Cheny administration who lied and cheated for 8 years. Many her whine when Bush is mentioned, but helloooooo…. who started this ill-conceived mess in the first place?

            Obama is no prize, but the vitriol here way exceeds reality.

          • JC

            Bud Tugly says:
            March 23, 2011 at 5:34 pm
            Unlike the much revered Bush/Cheny administration who lied and cheated for 8 years. Many her whine when Bush is mentioned, but helloooooo…. who started this ill-conceived mess in the first place?

            Obama is no prize, but the vitriol here way exceeds reality.
            —————————————————————-

            Actually what your seeing is the culmination of decades of built up anger finally focusing on the worst President in US history.

            It’s not “vitriol” it’s a fuse about to blow.

      • chow

        You know a monkey could have done the same as Obama, nothing, and everything could have fallen in place as Obama is doing. He didn’t do anything by play golf during the BP oil spill, he didn’t do anything in Japan disaster but play golf, he didn’t do anything in the start of ME unrest but play golf. His reponse are always late and towards the end when the situation is almost over.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          “he didn’t do anything in the start of ME unrest but play golf”.

          And then he went on yet ANOTHER TAX PAYER FUNDED VACATION!

          Chow, Aloha

        • JC

          That the Kenyan seems absent during times of crisis, might not be a bad thing.
          Someone in another string said keeping obama away from the White House is like keeping a toddler away from the power tools in the garage…
          Hilarious and probably accurate.

          • Ed

            Man I got to tell you that I love your anal-age of keeping the Idiot away from the power tools !! Grate call !! Come on 2012 and lets try and save what the MORON leaves behind in his aftermath !!!

        • J.Ragan

          At least Obama thinks before he speaks, not like millions of Americans who shout before they think and then are busy cleaning up the damage. Obama realizes that the Americans are not the only people in this universe, so cool it!!!

          • swampfox

            awww,is the wittle libral having a mental breakdown,cause we’re talking about their wittle commie????now now,get over it and just accept the fact he’s a retard.

      • Void1972

        By Chris Banescu
        What the Bolsheviks and communists did to their own people with violence, indiscriminate murder, starvation, torture, and concentration camps, union leaders in America want to accomplish via plans to destroy our financial system, undermine the stock market, disrupt capitalism, redistribute the wealth, and destabilize the country.
        The Blaze has obtained a taped recording of the radical plans of Stephen Lerner, a former official of SEIU, on of the most powerful unions in the country. In a meeting held on March 19, 2011, Lerner is heard talking to a group of community organizers, socialists, and union members in a discussion about tactics and strategies on how to disrupt and destabilize the American economy and create widespread uncertainty and fear.

        Here are some of Lerner’s key comments on the Left’s plans for America:

        “We need to figure out in a much more through direct action, much more concrete way, how we really trying to disrupt and create uncertainty for capital, for how corporations operate” …

        “There are actually extraordinary things we could do right now that would start to destabilize the folks that are in power and start to rebuild a movement” …

        “We have an entire economy that is built on debt and banks so the question would be what would happen if we organized homeowners in mass to do a mortgage strike if we get half a million people to agree it would literally cause a new finical crisis for the banks not for us we would be doing quite well we wouldn’t be paying anything.” …

        “if we really believe that we are in a transformative stage of what’s happening in capitalism, then we need to confront this in a serious way and develop really ability to put a boot in the wheel, then we have to think not about labor and community alliances we have to think about how together we are building something that really has the capacity to disrupt how the system operates” …

        “We have to think much more creatively. The key thing… What does the other side fear the most – they fear disruption. They fear uncertainty. Every article about Europe says in they rioted in Greece the markets went down” …

        “what we are looking at is the first week in May can we get enough people together starting now to really have an week of action in New York I don’t want to give any details because I don’t know if there are any police agents in the room, but the goal would be that we will roll out of New York the first week of May. We will connect three ideas:

        - that we are not broke there is plenty of money

        - they have the money – we need to get it back …

        - and so we need to take on those folks at the same time and that we will start here we are going to look at a week of civil disobedience – direct action all over the city”

        Stephen Lerner then concludes:

        “There is going to be a ten state mobilization it try and shut down that meeting and then looking at bank shareholder meetings around the country and try and create some moments like Madison except where we are on offense instead of defense

        Where we have brave and heroic battles challenging the power of the giant corporations. We hope to inspire a much bigger movement about redistributing wealth and power in the country and that labor can’t do itself that community groups can’t do themselves but maybe we can work something new and different that can be brave enough and daring and nimble enough to do that kind of thing.”

        It’s absolutely clear that the communist revolutionary bloodlust runs very deep through the veins and psyche of many union leaders and socialists in America. Their hatred for democratic free-market economies, unbridled greed for the wealth and property rights of individuals, and desire for chaos and revolution can no longer be contained. Give these guys the power and enough AK47s and they would do to us what the Bolsheviks, Maoists, and Vietcong did to their own people.

        The union/communist/radical rotten fruit did not fall very far from the Marxist-radical tree that has caused so much bloodshed, suffering, and death throughout the ages. The communist terrorists are here in America actively working to destabilize and destroy this blessed country. They will not stop until they bring about the same catastrophic results their spiritual brethren have brought since Marxism began. Apparently 100 million victims of the Communist Holocaust is not enough for these evildoers, they want more!

        Chris Banescu blogs at chrisbanescu.com.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          Sounds like it’s time for tear gas, rubber bullet, police batons and high pressure hoses.

          They are nothing more than retread 60s long-haired, magot infested dope smoking scum. We need to deal with them just at we dealt with the scum in the 60s. Old man Daley knew how to do t.

        • CFNCBETA

          Obama is not failing at anything. When one accepts that his intentions are to demolish America his actions takes on informative meaning. He has no intention of betraying his friend and fellow muslim Moramar. Everyone keeps making statements as though obama desires to be a president. For a moment look at all he has done as though he wanted to be a dictator. Now all he has done is perfect!

          • Harold Olsen

            Yes, the only success Obama has had in th 2+ years we’ve had to put up with him is his destruction of America. The best way to destroy a country is to destroy its economy. Obama has been very success at that. It shows just how much the idiots on the left hate this country because they continue to praise Obama and his Nazi policies. Everyone in the media treats Obama as though he really cares about this country when it’s plain to a blind person that he really hates and us.

        • Ed

          Void1972 well said. But do you really think the left wing drones have the brain capacity to understand what your trying to tell them ?? These people actually voted for Obama , I don’t hold out much hope for turning them. They all belong in France. You’ve got the give me’s out there that think it’s a free ride, and they are not going to work for a living when they think Obama will make the working man take care of them. If it keeps going at this rate of disintegration I can’t help but think the man up stairs is soon going to flush the Toilet!!! If the Dems haven’t ruined the Toilet to the point that it can’t handle a punch of such magnitude !!! Thanks for the insight of there chaos meeting.

      • Donel

        Quite a statement there, Obama is MORE of a QUITE leader.Which way?

        Nations waiting WEEKS on end to help clean up the oil in the Gulf.
        Not until the oil does its most destruction into the land and slodge on thebottom that cant be skimmed up by waiting ships. Ho Hum, go for it boys, clean it up. It’s not that he’s slow, just a QUITE LEADER.

        All his knowledge as an ORGANIZER from Acorn (another corrupt Organization exposed)& the church his wife never felt like an American. Until her organizer ran for the presidency.
        His hand picked 32 Czars, one sadly left during the night, not with out prais from Hussein Obama, because he was exosed.

        Works on Diplomacey? Ah yes, telling other nations how BAD America was,(Didin’t mention Coastal tribes like Kenya, enslaved the interior tribes, way before White Man ever got there) oops.
        Letting nations know, America is not a Christian nation, now that Barack Hussein with his Moslem upbringing came about.

        China giving him loans with American money, from forced to buy, made in China.
        Thats not enough, promoting new kinds of bulbs, made in China, with deadly poison. Replace incandescent bulbs made in America.

      • David

        Obama is robbin the hood. We are broke, if you want to live, go work. The leftist owned MSM would have crucified any conservative.

        • DeleOgun

          This is my reply to John Myers criticizing of President Obama handling Libya Colonel Ghadaffi. It is proper and it’s right approach politically and ethically. The GOP and the Tea Party are the most inhumane sets of oppressors I have ever met. These people have no conscience of any level. If Obama did nothing , it would be said of him not been sensitive. He did what a President would do. Iraq and Afganistan are not the same. Obama did notneed to go into Egypt and other countries because the dictators in those countires left.GWB bush in collaboration with Dick lied to the world. Obama is doing the right thing. This is not a war of vegeance like the one boy george fought killing over 6,000 US soldiers and murdering over a million in Iraq. Right now you gops should be happy we are not trying boy George for war crimes against humanity. If you push the world he would be charged and the sentence will DEATH by HANGING BOY.

          • libertytrain

            Ah, another gentle leftist lib preaching wishful actions reminiscent of the Democratic KKK. So who you hanging tonight down by the old oak tree?

        • DeleOgun

          Call him what you want to call him. You called yourself an xdemocrat. I don’t believe you know who you are. You are a GOP/TEA PARTY. Obama will be in the white house for 8 years whether or not you vote for him. Your vote did not put him in the white house 2010 and neither will your vote take him out in 2012. Stop the hate. Libya is a maniac. Obama is more competent than all of the GOP presidents in the last 40 years.

          • libertytrain

            Ok, here you say stop the hate wherein the comment above you’re hoping/looking for a hanging. Which is it? How do you wish to kill but want to stop the hate? I’m confused. Are we supposed just love your guys and hate those you hate?

    • Mick

      ASGreen….

      Are you kidding ???
      Obama caring about the people around the world ?
      He better start caring about the people of this country because the way it looks he is taking us straight to hell and you’re obviously missing it.
      It won’t take long before our military have to answer to the U.N., our rights to bear arms will be stripped from the law abiding citizens and the Muslims will dictate our future. I don’t think many people in the U.S. will be too please to live under the Sharia law…….

      • Jovianus

        Wow…we have someone who sits back and thinks before they ake a move, listens to all sdes, ad takes a course which has a beginning, a mid and and end planned befrehand. And because he doesn’t make a knee jerk reactionary decision…he’s “indecisive”. In this day and age, people expect 24 hour news on a minute by minute basis…and any delay of even two minutes is viewed as “indecisive”.

        Can anyone imagine what Egypt, Libya and the current wave of revolution throughout the ME would have been dealt with under Bush II or any of the so-called GOP leaders?

        Take Libya. Now just think about this for a second. It blows up. No one knows anything about the rebels…and for awhile it looked like Khaddafy was a cooked goose without any outside influence being brought to bear. By appearances, we were doing nothing.

        Two weeks goes by, Khaddaffy is murdering people left and right and looks as though he’s going to be able to stay in power and be even more of a raving lunatic than ever before.

        A coalition appears, and begins a “no fly zone” and launches the bombs and missiles.

        Now…just think about this. How did … “all of a sudden” our ships just happen to be in place in all the right places? Hw was it the UN just happened to be able to pass the resolution and China and Russia not veto it? How was it France and britain were placed in the forefront of the coalition…and the Arab League signed on? How was it that all the vital and important anti air weaponry was take out the first day? How was it that our oil supplies are not interrupted?

        Jeesh…ya think all that was a coincidence?

        And no one realized it and we weren’t cemented into any decision until it was time to pull the trigger on all that.

        A masterful operation to date. Masterful.

        And those who want to try and criticize this adminitration’s handling of the Libya Crisis…what would you have done different from the time it erupted to now? Tell everyone, including Khaddafy, what was being planned and put together ?

        Egypt…same question. What would you have done different? Keep a hateed despot (an 88 year old despot don’t forget0 in power by force a few months/years longer…then what? Face a guaranteed hostile government ?

        Criminey….think about things before going off ranting.

        • JIBBS

          Let them fight their own war, if you want to help them, spend your money and spill your own blood. TROLL

          • Jovianus

            We did. In Egypt and Tunisia. You’d rather we appear to abandon our principles and if there is a regime change…not be seen as a friendly? Yep…that’ll work. Sure … uh huh.

          • Ellen1

            Looks like there are several trolls, JIBBS, who believe the lies coming from the WH.

            Out of one side of his mouth, he states that we cannot presume to know what is best for everyone. Then when it suits his handlers, he illegally and unConstitutionally attacks yet another country that has not attacked us. Libya’s crisis is THEIR crisis; in case you hadn’t noticed, we have a number of crises right here in this country that are screaming for remedy. Any such actions, at the very least, are decided upon by our ridiculous congress, NOT THE president.

          • Vigilant

            Jovi Anus is some piece of work. If Bush had done the IDENTICAL thing that Obama did, he’d be all over him. Wonder what Jovi’s reaction is going to be when Yemen spills over and Obama does nothing because Yemen is an ally.

            Jovi is the perfect example of the “personality cult” Obama has so assiduously tried to create. No matter what Obama does, it’s fine, no matter what Bush did, it was wrong.

            Jovi, reading Eric Hoffer’s “The True Believer” is like reading your autobiography.

          • Vigilant

            Ellen1:

            “Then when it suits his handlers, he illegally and unConstitutionally attacks yet another country that has not attacked us.”

            The Constitutionality of ANY move by this administration is not even a speed bump for them. If there’s ONE thing that separates the liberals from the conservatives, it’s the liberal’s absolute disregard for the rule of law. For them, the end justifies the means, and the Constitution is toilet paper in the mush they call their “brains.”

          • Vigilant

            Obama is taking heat from both the left and the right on this one. Jovi Anus doesn’t have enough cognitive juice to even understand that his socialist friends don’t sgree with Obama.

          • Jana

            Vigilant,
            That’s because Jovi is geared to speak out AGAINST anything that we are for, and for anything that we are against.

          • Jovianus

            Gee Vigilant, you’d think I was like you if I let myself be told what to think.

            Fact is fact. What would you have done? Let the ME roil into revolution and stand aside..and let whatever government comes out with nothing but ill will towards us for standing aside? Stated we were going in without planning beforehand? Not getting involved when oil (our lifeline) is involved?

            TPers, aka Flat Earthers, you guys want us to stand aside, or get involved … without rhyme, reason or rationale. If Obama had stood aside, you’d be all over him for it. If he launched ground troops, you’d be all over him for it. If he planned and coordinated and did exactly what he’s doing now…you’re all over him for it.

            Face it…you don’t care if it’s good or bad policy. That has no bearing on it. You’re just parroting what you are told to say and think.

            Now…if you’d at last support a policy whch weans us from pil so we don’t have to get involved in the ME to save our oil lifeline…then i’m all for listening. But so far, you guys have no clue or solution other than continue to have oil as our addicition.

            And the claims of the Constitution…if you guys even had a clue as to what you’re talking about it would be a news flash heard round the world. nearest I can tell is that the SCOTUS opinions have no bearing or weight, and any other interpretation other than a wacked irrational one is wrong (it has to agree with the TPer rant).

            Jeesh.

            Whatever…

          • Carlucci

            My question is why are all of these libtard pukes posting on this blog?
            Why can’t they go and verbally vomit their vitriol somewhere else?
            Oh, if they only had a brain…

          • Vigilant

            Jovi Anus says, “And the claims of the Constitution…if you guys even had a clue as to what you’re talking about it would be a news flash heard round the world. nearest I can tell is that the SCOTUS opinions have no bearing or weight, and any other interpretation other than a wacked irrational one is wrong (it has to agree with the TPer rant).”

            Allow me to proffer, in the most disrespectful way I can, that your abysmal lack of understanding of the Constitution of the United States of America is a hallmark of your fellow comrades who would utterly destroy this nation, period.

            My understanding of the Constitution, its roots, the founders who created it and the Enlightenment philosophy that made it possible, is far more profound than your mere mouthing of communist platitudes and talking points from the left.

            No sir, WE conservatives and Libertarians take our cue from the ideals and institutions that made us the greatest country in history, and we will fight to the death to preserve those ideals from the skunks and weasels who would remake our flag over from the pelts of those execrable creatures.

          • Vigilant

            Jovi’s rant : “Now…if you’d at last support a policy whch weans us from pil so we don’t have to get involved in the ME to save our oil lifeline…then i’m all for listening. But so far, you guys have no clue or solution other than continue to have oil as our addicition.”

            We always have supported an energy independence policy. Where the hell were you? And what has Obama done to decrease our dependence? On the contrary, his environmentalist wacko policies have stripped jobs from the Gulf of Mexico, kept us from exploiting our own resources, attempted to kill the coal industry, denied permits for drilling, advocated cap and tax legislation to stifle economic development, and the list goes on.

            As for “weaning us” away from oil, tell me what current or even proposed technology can have a replacement for oil within even 30 years.

          • Jovianus

            Vigilant….what the Constitution says is exactly what the interpreters of the Constitution say it says …i.e SCOTUS. Not what some wacked out bunch of lunatics scream it says 9goes both ways for the Right and Left). You can say it means we all get green cheese from the moon for life…but that doesn’t mean such is what the Constitution says.

            As for solution other than continue to be dependent upon oil. Easy. A multitude of sources…solar, wind, tidal, etc. New technology working on clean coal. And how about alcohol? Alcohol…easy to make. Mow your lawn and get 20 mpg. from the clippings. Natural gas. Hundreds of years of supplies easy to get with minimal enviornmental impact. How’s that Sparky. It’s called thinking.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Carlucci:

            Maybe what we should do is go the the liberal blogs and drive them crazy (short trip)….

          • Vigilant

            Jovi Anus once again, and without embaraasment, shows his ignorance:

            “As for solution other than continue to be dependent upon oil. Easy. A multitude of sources…solar, wind, tidal, etc. New technology working on clean coal. And how about alcohol? Alcohol…easy to make. Mow your lawn and get 20 mpg. from the clippings. Natural gas. Hundreds of years of supplies easy to get with minimal enviornmental impact. How’s that Sparky. It’s called thinking.”

            “Solar, wind, tidal…?” Have fun trying to operate automobiles, airplanes and other combustible engines on that, my ignorant friend. Even T. Boone Pickens gave up on windmills when he saw what a bust that concept was.

            “Natural Gas? I thought you environmental wackos were against that.
            You won’t find anyone on THIS site against that, bud.

            “Alcohol?” You’re obvously more ignorant than I thought you were. Alcohol costs MORE to produce from corn that an equal unit of gasoline.

            As for “green” jobs, well it costs about $700,000 to create ONE job. You and Obama would bust the bank long before any sizeable amount of employment would result from that kind of voodoo economics.

            To be clear to your fogged mind, NO ONE is against alternative energy where it’s both practicable and economically feasible. NO ONE is against making us less dependent upon foreign oil EXCEPT the politicians of both parties.

          • Vigilant

            Jovi says, “Vigilant….what the Constitution says is exactly what the interpreters of the Constitution say it says …i.e SCOTUS. Not what some wacked out bunch of lunatics scream it says 9goes both ways for the Right and Left).”

            SCOTUS is correct ONLY when it stays within its Constitutional boundaries to interpret it. Its decisions ARE NOT valid when it uses international law, UN protocols or a personal activist agenda in formulating decisions.

            The conservative position is precisely the correct one: interpret the Constitution to fulfill its provisions accurately and with fidelity to its guidance as the law of the land.

            The liberal position is, and always has been, the wrong position: they wish not to interpret but to write new extra-Constitutional law based on their personal ideas of “social justice” and “fairness.” Obama has said as much, and that makes him a dangerous statist.

          • JC

            Jovianus says:
            March 23, 2011 at 2:53 pm
            Vigilant….what the Constitution says is exactly what the interpreters of the Constitution say it says …i.e SCOTUS.
            ________________________________________________________

            What absolute Bull!
            the SCOTUS does not need to interpret the Constitution. It’s simple, straight forward and written in English. No “interpretations” necessary, unless of course you are trying to bend and pervert its meaning. Which is exactly what they have done.

        • Robin from Arcadia, IN

          JO… He has no plan. He is leaving it to Hilary. The only thing he does well is vacation and smooze….

        • Kate8

          What planet are you people living on?

          It’s obvious that you haven’t yet figured out that Obama’s “decisions” are made by the same group that has dictated the actions and policies of the past several administrations.

          Obama speaks out of all sides of his mouth. But why be too hard on him. He can only speak what’s on the prompter.

        • Eddie47d

          I agree with JIBBS that we should stay out of the Middle East as much as possible. Meyers article was odd for you couldn’t tell if we should go into all these Middle Eastern countries or stay out. Civil Wars should be fought by and for the people within their respective countries. Obama did the right thing in staying out of Egypt,Tunisia and some of the others. Neither Yemen or Saudi Arabia are very good allies although I do fear for what will come next in Yemen. Yemen is the new hunting(training) grounds for al Qaeda and will be an even more dangerous place. Libya may not be an American war yet but you can certainly smell it.

          • Jovianus

            Telling about the article is the one sentence ‘Iraq proved the no fly zone doesn’t work’. Excuse me? Worked pretty well as far as anyone could tell. Bush I and Clinton found it a worthwhile policy. Bush II found it useful as well. He wanted to invade and he lied and faked evidence to invade. Fact.

        • Ed

          Jovianus, you are a rambling blundering IDIOT !!! You and those like you are the problem !! You uneducated MORON . Go get that free Education your God Obama is pushing and see if maybe you can learn how to talk . And don’t post unless you know what your talking about. PS , I left a one way ticket to France at the terminal for you , use it please !!! You and all your left wing freaks don’t need to covert this fine country into France , just take the ticket and go !!!!!

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Mick:

        If Der Fuhrere tries pulling that sh*t here there will be a blood-bath that will make the ME look like child’s play. These Obama people either have their heads firmly planted in their rectal socket, or they are just as anti_American as Der Fuhrer. Either way they all need to be shipped the h*ll out of the country.

        • Ellen1

          Well said, Old Henry.

        • Bailey

          Old Henry. Not only has there been the greatest transfer of your assets and mine to “who knows who?”…..but an entire state has been dragged before the UN for trying to protect it’s citizens from rape, murder, and pillage. If Obama’s supporters were sent elsewhere, it would be the greatest exportation of communist, socialist, radicals, and would be terrorist that could be counted. Even Louis Farrakhan chastised him a little, declaring…”who in the hell do you think you are?” He might have called him “brother” before asking the question. His trip to Brazil was not without it’s regard for “favors granted”…but somehow it sticks in my craw that Soros owns tremendous assets in Brazillian oil. And, did not Rev. Wright and Louis. F. recieve a multi-million dollar gift from Guadaffi? Beyond Axelrod and his psychological manipulators….and the hypnosis of the American electorate….the “knee jerk” response to the smooth talking teleprompter reader…produced the worse calamity this nation as ever experienced. We must take responsibility for it…as we elected him. No thought of his past, his mother and grandparents regard for socialism and Marxist thought and doctrines….nor the Muslim influence from his father and step father. He was there…a tall, nice looking dude, supposedly well educated, our historical first. I pray for Obama every night…and wish him well. What I pray most for is a smooth transition of power in 2012.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Bailey:

            There will be no smooth transition of power in 2010, or 2016, or 2020. or 2024, or…….

            He may allow the Congress to remain as they have nuetered themselves with “leaders” like Boehner and McConnell who are in it for themselves even though they seem to be thumping the tamborene at the moment. However, listen very closely to what they say and more importantly whatch what they DON’T DO.

          • Kate8

            O H – This quote says it all:

            “…the merger of big business with big government, which Mussolini described as corporatism,…is defined by rampant militarism…, where the leader tends to be identified with the state, and criticism of the leader is treated as unpatriotic or even treasonous, is exactly what he have emerging here [in the United States]: an American-style fascist government…[For example,] the President has imposed his own interpretation upon the law,…He now figures out what the law is, whether or not to enforce [the laws], and what they mean.”

            …Jim Fetzer, philosophy professor at the U of Minn., Duluth;
            from the book: CORPORATISM: The Secret Government of the New World Order.

          • Ed

            Bailey, Soros is the President , Obama is the figure head !! Soros will be they only off shore Oil company in business in the world buy the time he gets through!!! Buy the looks of things Obama is the President of the UNION and Governor of all the states that don’t adopt their socialist point of view !!!

      • Edward Chandler

        After OBAMA HAS DESTOYED AMERICA WHY WORRY ABOUT LIBYA? hE IS SUCH A FAILURE THAT HE MAKES jimmy [FAKE } CARTER LOOK

        • Harold Olsen

          Which is probably why Carter likes him so well. Carter was the worst president in the history of this country until Obama came along.

      • Void1972

        Well, one good thing about Obama being elected is we will never have to worry about having another black,inexperienced,anti-American communist from the most corrupt state in the union elected again!
        If you just look at our world and ask yourself, how many thriving nations on our planet are run by blacks? You find the answer is none.

        How could the American public be fooled into voting for this communist? Television! We sit like hyptnotized morons listening to all these over payed jerks telling us the information the elitist want us to know. Msnbc for the left, Fox for the right, it’s all the same crap, just different scum spewing it!

        We deserve the horror that is comming to America because we the people created it! We have fallen prey to our own greed and stupidity. We watch sick, demented TV shows and worthless, fixed sporting events while America is burning. The time we waste with useless activities is why we are in our current and final demise.
        We the people should have started a revolution after our elected officials, wall street, banks and the fed reserve raped us of our country and our future. We the people should have marched on Washington and demanded justice for the trillions that were robbed from us and our childrens children.
        No, we couldnt miss American idol or the jersey shore.
        Well folks, i hope your prepared for what we are about to reap, because it’s not going to be pretty.
        I hope we have one more year to prepare for the comming crisis, but i doubt it.
        Hope all of you hard working Americans prepare yourself and your families for the next few years, because if your not ready, you will lose everything. Good luck to you and yours!
        The rest of you obama freaks livivng off our sweat, you have nothing to lose, no morals, no pride, no dignity no faith, no self worth, no nothing! Luck cannot help you, nothing can!
        God Bless and help those who trust in him, and God Bless America and those who fight for her!!!

        • Ed

          Void 1972 I conker 100 % . This is not the country I was raised in and with all the Attorneys in politics now it will probably never be again!
          It pisses me of to no end what this mad man has done to my , my children and my grand children’s world !! They didn’t ask for what the left has now burdened them with !! But they will be the ones left to fix it, if it can be fixed !! There is a special place in a very hot area that these privileged self rite-us greedy thieves are going to spend time and all eternity in for there unjust acts!! They may take God out of the Government and Schools but they can’t take him out of power and will answer to him in the end !! The biggest pain for Pelosi will be that she can’t have free $3000.00 a bottle Conyac in hell !!

      • Kate8

        Mick – You’ve got that right.

    • B.Benhamid

      As Muammar Ghadhafi said; West will end in ‘dustbin of history’

      • Mike in MI

        B.Benhamid -
        And O’Bomber has, treasonously, taken it on as the only “shovel ready” job he seems to have found to be worthy of his intention.
        It’s time Americans threw the ‘Bumster in the dumpster of history with the rest of the detritus and slime who have tried to take this great experiment in liberty down.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          Mike:

          If we had a Speaker who had a pair rather than being just another DC elitist Little Barry would be gone by now. It’s time he was vetted, removed, imprisoned, tried and executed for the high crimes and misdemeanors he has committed against this nation. We then go after the long list of co-conspirators – on both sides.

          It is time to clean this country up.

          • Jovianus

            I’d ask what ‘high crimes and misdeamors’ you’re referring to…but i’ve seen enough made up or misguided reasons. i could probably put together the list for you just from reading the rantings on this site.

            OK… I’ll ask. What acts has he done which brings it to impeachment levels?

          • Ellen1

            Old Henry: Interesting that every time the list of crimes and misdemeanors is posted, the “believers” are incapable of comparing the items on the list with the supreme law of our land–the Constitution. Is it stupidity or something else?

            And yes, both Ds and Rs are behaving criminally and have for decades.

          • Kate8

            Old H and Ellen – I drove 30 miles to attend another townhall last night, thinking maybe I’d hear some real stuff.

            I’m sad to say that NO ONE seems to get it. I really like my Congressman, and he’s very supportive of us rising up to take our nation back, but he’s careful about how much he says.

            It’s the same old, same old. Our country is crumbling around us, tyranny is closing in, and the #1 topic of concern amongst the crowd is…their social security checks.

            Why can’t they see that if we have no country, there won’t be anything for anyone.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            JOvi, Jovi, Jovi:

            Little Barry the Kenyan non-U.S. citizen simply being in the White House is crime enough. Then there is the apology tour at tax payer expense throughout the ME where he ran our nation down in front of our enemies. Just for that tour Andrew Jackson would have drug him out onto the front lawn ahd hanged him. (Mr. Anderson, is that the correct phrasology?)

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Ellen:

            It is something else. Neither Little Barry nor his “believers” consider the Constitution as the law of the land. It is simply an impedement.

          • Vigilant

            Jovi Anus refuses to admit that his King Obama can do anything wrong. “I’d ask what ‘high crimes and misdeamors’ you’re referring to…but i’ve seen enough made up or misguided reasons. i could probably put together the list for you just from reading the rantings on this site.

            OK… I’ll ask. What acts has he done which brings it to impeachment levels?”

            I know this is a waste of time with a “true believer” like Jovi, but here goes:

            Failing to discharge his Constitutional duty to uphold and enforce the law of the land.

            (1) allowing sanctuary cities to continue violating federal immigration law.

            (2) Obstructing justice by suing a state whose immigration law is virtually identical to federal immigration law.

            (3) Failure to defend the Defense of Marriage Act through his DOJ. Discrimination against whites by failing to prosecute violations of voter’s rights perpetrated by blacks, through that same DOJ.

            (4) Bypassing legislative process via executive orders, numerous czars and regulatory agencies, to a degree far beyond anything ever done by a president in our history.

            (5) Advocating and signing into law a health care program that forces individual citizens to purchase a commercial product.

            (6) Acting continually to centralize power of the Federal Government in a Constitutional Republic, ignoring the individual liberties of the people and the check and balance safeguards of the Constitution.

            (7) Advocating the employment of the Supreme Court to further the ends of “social justice,” in violation of the Constitution.

            (8) Appointing a known and admitted communist to a position of authority in the USG.

            (9) Illegal seizure of a private corporation and violation of bankruptcy law as laid out in the Uniform Commercial Code.

            (10) Advocation of the “fairness doctrine” through his FCC, a clear violation of freedom of speech.

            The list is only partial. And before you say, “but other presidents have done several of the same things,” let me remind you that only Obama and Co. have done it to the extent that openly defies all Constitutional safeguards on an unprecedented level.

            He has accelerated the move toward socialism as no president ever dreamed of, and he has made it clear that he does not support or represent the American people as a whole (e.g., making racist statements in the Cambridge case, taking the side of the unions over the taxpayers, signing Obamacare into law against the express disapproval of the American people).

            EVERYTHING he does is calculated to consolidate the power of Federal Government in contravention of the Constitutional checks on republican government. Federalism, the very foundation of our country, is now on life support. The patient is close to death, and Obama wants to pull the plug.

          • JeffH

            Vigilant, shame on you! Can we wait for answer or will it be the worn out “Bush-Cheney” standard or the newer “Reagan” rant? Stay tuned!

          • Vigilant

            JeffH,

            You’re right. We’ve waited a few hours with no response from the Jovmeister. He’s probably tearing his hair out trying to find something to support his points. Jovi, hint: you won’t find it on the leftist sites; they don’t even know what the Constitution is, or they deny its legitimacy.

          • Harold Olsen

            Yes, instead of a Speaker of the House, John Boehner is, as someone termed him, the Weeper of the House. He is a joke!! And yet, there are those who want to elect him president. We don’t have ANY real leadership in this country. Just a bunch of morons who either want to destroy this country or help them destroy this country.

          • JC

            Harold if you’re waiting for Jovi to respond, you’ll be waiting a long time. LibComs tend to fade (slither) away when they are presented with the truth.

          • JC

            Sorry, Harold. That last should have been addressed to Vigilant.

          • ISAMU NAKAO

            ALL HUSSEIN OBAMA IS LOOKING FOR IS FAMILY FIRST, COUNTRY LAST.
            ALL HE IS LOOKING FOR IS A PHONE CALL AWAY TO VACATION PLAN.
            FAMILY TRIP . LIKE HUSSEIN WIFE SMILE AND BE HAPPY, AMERICA’S ARE STUPID FOR HUSSEIN OBAMA.

      • JC

        B.Benhamid says:
        March 23, 2011 at 7:17 am
        As Muammar Ghadhafi said; West will end in ‘dustbin of history’
        ———————————————————————

        I’m not sure which is worse…ending in the dustbin of history…or existing in the dustbin of history for 7 or 800 years as Islam has done. (granted that’s a generalized statement)

    • http://www.piedmontwebmasterservices.com Dan

      Boy you got that all wrong. He has stated that the goal of the action in Libya is not to remove Momar Quadafi and has also stated that we are not going to put ground troops in the country. So how do you get that his goal is to bring Quadafi to justice? I seem to recall that Quadafi is a bud of his and that is why he won’t take him out and also why he waited 2 weeks before even committing air power.

      • http://google.com mathilda

        Obama said Odafi has to go in one of his speeches, if that don’t tell you something you are up a camels rear. This is planned out for the take over of our country.

        • http://www.piedmontwebmasterservices.com Dan

          Yeah, he did when the civil war was heating up but if you would listen to what is current and kept up to date, when he addressed the Nation and told us the bombing was going to start he stated regime change was not the goal.

          • Mike in MI

            Dan -
            Are we to take that to mean O’Bomber is raining bombs on Gawdawfuldaffi’s opponents? Or, are we expending ordnance and tossing planes and pilots in the deepest camel dung crapital on earth?

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            And who the h*ll is paying for this UMFUNDED WAR?!

            And who is paying for yet another vacation where he drags his entorage around at hundreds lof thousands per day?!

            This facsist Kenyan nas to go.

          • JIBBS

            I think you need to read up and listen to what lobama said today………homework before you speak!

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          Maybe the teleprompter does not like Quadafi.

          • Kate8

            Maybe Qadahfi doesn’t like the NWO.

            Jus’ sayin’.

          • Mike in MI

            K88 -
            ‘Course he doesn’t like the NWO. They relieved him of his U.N. inHuman Rights Panel seat and started throwing bombs at him. They’re all enough to make anybody gag.

          • Michael J.

            Kate8,
            That’s right, Gadhafi doesn’t like the NWO. Neither did Mubarak, the Saudi’s or any other ME dictators now under fire. Coincidence? I think not! The call amongst the rebels is for democratically elected leaders. You know, the kind which can be purchased and manipulated cheaply. It’s tough to convince a dictator who figures he owns the people, the land and it’s natural resources to turn over sovereignty to the NWO and that’s why their being ousted.

            Also, the war we see erupting is the fulfillment of a NWO fantasy come true. Both U.S. and Nato forces working together at the behest of the NWO’s military command and control machine, The United Nations.
            By cooperating, Obama has made a downpayment on his post POTUS appointment as the next U.N. Secretary General.

          • Kate8

            Michael J – Thank you for saying that. You are SPOT ON.

          • JeffH

            Michael J, by golly you just might be on to something.

          • Kate8
          • JeffH

            Kate8, thanks. I only had to glance through it just to see what doesn’t even surprise me…???

        • Bus

          You are assuming a “plan”. Since the guy doesn’t have any principles or doctrine to base any action on, it all is just knee jerk reaction to the pressure of the international community as well as some of the people he chooses to listen to in his administration…Then its off to Brazil for some well deserved R & R.

          • Kate8

            Bus – I disagree. There is nothing knee-jerk going on here. It’s been planned and orchestrated for a century.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      FDR was not a great leader sir. FDR employed priciples that we are still paying for today. FDR instituted the art of lying in politics to get your way, both to your constituents and to the the American people. He lied over and over to get his way, and we are still paying for things he did, and most likely will be forever. And though I do not like Obama at all, I do support his intervention into Libya, except for one small thing, that will lead to a big thing. He has no plan for victory. That is crucial. When Bush rightfully took the fight to the terrorists in Iraq, fully voted for by a democratic congress, actually intigated by democrats screaming from the mountain tops that Saddam Hussein had WMD’s and needed to be stopped, before Bush was even a candidate for president. But Bush’s admin actually had a plan in effect, and it was being effective until the democrats took over congress, and fought him every step to try to make the damn thing collapse over there, all for their political gain. But there was a plan. Now in Libya, there is no plan. Just as when obama was elected, he was never questioned by the press as to what he was going to do, and still he is given a free pass on this. And he has no plan for Libya, and that is a scary thing. To execute a successful war, you better have a plan. And we dont have one. Also, I would definitely like to add, that when Bush went into Iraq, all I heard was the left and their blind followers crying “war monger republicans”, over and over and the press echoed this. Where are all the cries now, that this war monger Obama has escalated the Afghanistan war, and now war on Libya. Where are all the war monger criers at? Again, the liberal press, will give him a free pass. And for you to glorify Obama, after all the damnation he has done to this country, you are a blind numb follower sir.

      • BigBadJohn

        “FDR was not a great leader sir. FDR employed priciples that we are still paying for today. FDR instituted the art of lying in politics to get your way, both to your constituents and to the the American people.”

        WOW all you haved to do is change the name…

        BUSH was not a great leader sir. BUSH employed priciples that we are still paying for today. BUSH instituted the art of lying in politics to get your way, both to your constituents and to the the American people.

        You could also change it to Reagan with the same results.

        Is this something that in a common thread in all presidents?

        • Ellen1

          Right-O! Bush was the puppet that was used to destroy many of our liberties and freedoms. He is one of the many paraded before the American people; same title, same agenda, same lineage, different face. Barry is the current manifestation and he plays his part well. They’re all liars and frauds but the sheeple continue to believe the lies.

          • Carlucci

            You got it, Ellen1. Just wish the majority of the American people would wake up and get it.

          • JeffH

            Ellen1, you forgot to mention that Barry is an anomaly to those previously chosen to be POTUS. He’s gone “ROGUE”, something only a completely radical Marxist community organizer would do. He’s even upset Soros a few times. With few exceptions, Pelosi and Reid come to mind, Barry is slowly loosing the support of the Socialist Democrats.

          • Mike in MI

            Jeff -
            How very intrigueing that you think he’s going “rogue”. I’m not sure I see it, yet. But, He loves the limelight and the perks when he gets them sans any criticism. Now, there’s OBOMBAST’s Achille’s heel.
            He’s so proud he goes animaballistic when he catches grief from about any angle – except us. So, his megalomania might be getting ready to slide off into freefall.
            If that happens they’ll be hardpressed to keep him on retainer, unless he can be goaded back into line. I wonder if he knows what a 30 caliber round zipping past the ear sounds like? I guess we’ll know if we see a sudden attitude adjustment in him (along with sudden furtive, nervous, paranoid jumpiness and squatting behind Michelle). Or, suddenly appearing dark, runny stains down the front of his trousers…or people slinking off, holding their noses. (I wonder if he’ll give up golf altogether?) Do they still conduct tours down in Deely Plaza?
            If he thinks he can get all high-and-mighty versus the Bilderbergers, NWO-types or Soros or anybody else he could be fronting for get ready for some national days of mourning (well, actually, morning).
            I don’t desire any ill or harm to the man. “Cause he does have a couple of girls who need him. I just wish he’d go away.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Time tells the tale of history,and of good and bad. Just as more and more bad continues to be exposed about Bill Clinton, Bush will in time be revealed as one of the greatest presidents ever. He made us strong again and kept us safe from terrorists blowing more things up, unlike his predecessor who allowed them to set up 9-11, since he saw to it to cut our intelligence agencies to half, not to mention our military also, leaving us vulnerable. Bush freed millions of people in Iraq, and has directly open the eyes of people in Egypt, Tunisia, Bahrain, Iran and other countries to cry out and fight for their freedom also. Just as our freedom was not free, and we had to fight for it, so they do also. They see the freedom in Iraq, and they want it also. Give credit where credit is due, Bush was right on this. And though I do not like war and killing, sometimes it is needed. It would have been disastrous to have done nothing, and sat back playing with cigars like Clinton did while they continually punched us in the nose. And I have lost no freedoms what so ever under Bush, not one. Tap my phone calls to catch Ali Habib making plans to blow you up. Im all for that. I guess my conscience doesnt bother me like yours does, and you are way off base. And Reagan was the best thing this country has ever produced to hold the office of president, and if you cannot see that or admit that, then really, there is no use in talking to you any further, because in that statement alone, you have proved your ignorance.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Who the h*ll is paying for this warmonger’s war? The country is broke! As with everything this facsist Kenyan does he has no clue.

        There is nothing to fee earr, but Obama itself….

        • Jana

          And yesterday Obama announced that he was going to give $200 million to one country that he was visiting to help with their drug war. What about our drug wars? What about our illegal immigration? When the smugglers smuggle illegals across the border they have each illegal carry in drugs in a back pack. So the illegals are called mules for the drug runners.

          So much for whoever said yesterday in one of his posts that Obama is going on this tour to entice them to buy from us, and for jobs for us. Yes, we have another job alright, pay more taxes to give to other countries.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Jana:

            I think that was Karolyn. Not sure if she really believed it, or was just stirring the pot.

          • Eddie47d

            Well, Old Henry you stir the pot far more than Karolyn.

          • karolyn

            Our drug war needs to stop. That would stop the cartels in South America. And, yes, part of the reason he went is to drum up business for our products. Brazil has a thriving economy, and we need to hit them up.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Yep Eddie, that’s what the big money corporate interests are paying me to do here. I get even more for stirring the liberal blogs!

        • Willie Evershave

          All politicians lie. Presidents are politicians. Therefore, presidents lie. Great news, isn’t it? It is not Obama that I fear, it is the sea of fools and micro-cephalic morons that elected him to office in the first place. Now, take your white canes and sit down, carefully of course, lest you smash your collective brains! Taxpayers will pay for Obama’s parties, vacations and wars until they finally wake up. The Kenyan virtual president must go. The liberals will always vote for someone who will give them something for nothing, so they must be re-educate by those who are not socialist, marxist, lenninist, communist, dimwitted, morons who think getting something for nothing is normal! Wake up, USA!

          • Mike in MI

            Willie – I like your sentiment and how it’s stated. Do it more ofetn.

          • Michael J.

            Willie,
            It’s refreshing too know that there are others with eyes that see.

          • Eddie47d

            I see you found a new name calling friend.I’m sure he improved your intelligence. LOL

          • Michael J.

            Edith47d,
            Stifle yeself thare… Quit spoutin owff onda sperm a-da moment…

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Where is the liberal press and all those bleeding heart liberals, who called out from the mountain tops what a war monger Bush and the republicans were. Why does yet again, this muslim get a free pass? Simply amazing.

      • Mike in MI

        Well…gee, Bebs – How can there be a plan where there is no leader?

        I’d like to see O’Bomber do with his present position like he has with every other thing he’s ever tried for a couple of years – up and quit and move on to something elshe can tear up.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          What would happen to the Teleprompter? Would it become homeless? Who would maintain its web site? I wonder if Little Barry sleeps with it on occasion..

          • Carlucci

            LOL – !!!

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Carlucci:

            I hope the teleprompter is not 220V…..

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          He wont have to up and quit, as the American people will be kicking his worthless hide to the curb in 2012. If only it could get here quicker.

          • swampfox

            you and me both!
            can’t get here soon enough to suit me,i’ll do a jig!!!

    • TIME

      ASSGREEN,
      Have you ever been anywhere in the world other than your living room in your PJ’s?
      Humanitarian act, yea, right! LMAO….

      • karolyn

        Time – You may have the benefit of being a world traveler, but most of the people here do not. That doesn’t make you an expert on everything (which you seem to believe you are.). We all have the right to our opinions and world travel has nothing to do with it.

        • Jovianus

          I suspect Time hasn’t been much anywhere except vacation spots. Chances are he didn’t troll the dregs of life the masses lead in another country.

          But he is correct about one thing. Humanitarian reasons may be mouthed, but the international scene is ruled by the principle of Realpolitik.

          • TIME

            Jo, you are 100% correct I don’t go to the areas where the dregs reside. When I or any of my team have been in the Middle East we have to hire armed body guards.
            By the way that also follows suit in many places around the world, so whats that say about many of these specail area’s?

            Oh and by the way the Females on my staff can’t even work in the Middle East. “ITS NOT ALLOWED by their law’s of what is their Religion.”
            So for any of you Females who think there are just so wonderful in the Middle East perhaps you should look into the area deeper than what the wankers on the telie spout.
            The term you would be looking for is a key factor. You would be noted as “CHATTEL.”
            Thus you would have ZERO rights. You can’t speak unless your spoken to, so try that out for a while see how it fits your life style.

            Oh and any of you Gays, let me break it to you, you could be beheaded as being gay in the Middle East is a CRIME.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            And Time, if we do not get this facsist Kenyan out of here you will be hiring armed guards while in this country.

            You did forget to mention that Muslims do indeed like women…. They think every man should OWN several.

          • Robin from Arcadia, IN

            JO… I think Barry holds the title of Vacation King.

          • Jovianus

            Robin…yesterday i showed the sata. The two worst presidents we ever had wer the two taking the most vacation days. Reagan and BushII.

            Obama is two weeks a year and is a little below the vaerage for a presidency.

            You begrudge someone for taking two weeks a year for a vacation ? I know…you’re used to working in non union shops and don’t get vacation time.

          • Eddie47d

            Yes Robin,Obama’s vacation time has been debunked before and you are still playing that broken record.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Jovi Anus, I have to take exception to one of your lies posted here. You made a false, out and out lying statement about union/non union vacations. You lie. I work for a non union electrical contractor. Our guys are paid almost the same per hour as union guys, but they make it up in the fact that they are driving 26 thousand dollar company owed vans, fully equipped with tools, and a gas card, so it costs them nothing to travel to and from jobs. And the vacation thing. The union electricians around here, dont get any paid vacations. They take their vacations when they are laid off, which is for a couple of months every year. Our guys dont get laid off, they work year round, and they get 3 weeks paid vacations, plus paid holidays, which the union thugs dont get either. Then there is that thing where the owner of the company knows their name, and their wives names and their kids names, and gives a darn about them and their families. Good luck with that in the union. Your nothing but a number in the union. I know, I was one of them for about 11 years. So your busted, youve been caught in a huge, huge lie, once again, just like a good liberal. So put your attacks away, and live in the real world. Stop defending muslim terrorists who will cut your head off as fast as they would mine or George Bush’s. They hate you too. And stop defending loser liberals who take our tax money, and buy lawyers to defend these terrorists. And stop defending crooked unions who force people into them, force them to give them money, force them to vote for whom they tell them to vote for, or they are black balled out. You know its true. So stop lying to protect those who are bad for this country.

        • JIBBS

          You and jovi are so smart, I’m speechless as to who has all the wisdom? Two troll for the SHEEPLE club.

        • TIME

          Karolyn,
          A expert, no I not an expert, but I do have first hand intel not the Bull pies that you get on the telie thats called NEWS that many think is valid.
          So am I guilty of knowning more than 98.99% of the US population, YES.

          • Jovianus

            If youhave all this knowledge Time…you could have fooled most anyone th way you show it.

          • TIME

            Oh Jo VIanus,

            Are your wee little knickers in a knot yet again?
            You poor little person you.

            Perhaps you may wish to have deeper thought before you eject prematurely again.
            Now put down the mush peas and stop drooling on your bibbie. Go back to your basement with your Bippie and take a Nappie.

            Thanks for Playing ~ please try again!

          • Vigilant

            Jovi Anus says, “If you have all this knowledge Time…you could have fooled most anyone th way you show it.”

            No Jovi, only the socialist lefties are fooled. Idiocy is their stock in trade.

          • JeffH

            TIME, ignore the Obama schills. As usual, they’re just envious of you because you have “traveled the world” through your work and have shared a little insight and knowledge that so many of us can’t get through the alphabet soup news or NatGeo.

            You’ve been consistant since you’ve been here while the “liars” can’t remember the lies they tell.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Jovi Anus shows his ineptitude when he tries to match wits with you. It is obvious, he comes up short. Must have been all those years of crack smoking while working for the democrats. Government handouts have kept him down and in his place, dependant upon them. That is how they gain their power, through sheeple like him, that dont even realize they are selling us down the road.

        • Robin from Arcadia, IN

          karolyn… JO holds the title of thinks he knows everything, not Time.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Hey, his name says it all – Jovi – Anus.

        • Thamera

          Karolyn: I have to disagree with you. Travel is underestimated and offers a perspective that you cannot get any other way. Many people “romanticize” places they have never been until you actually live there you will find things, quite often, to be very different than you imagined.

          • karolyn

            Yes, I do get that. However, when one has had extensive experience in this country as far as exposure to differing cultures, soci-economic levels, general life experiences, etc. it does provide for a fairly well-rounded education. I have a real problem with those who tend to come across as knowing it all. (Which most conservatives seem to do.) No one knows it all; and no one has all the answers, though many here believe they do.

          • libertytrain

            I don’t agree with all you say. Yes, one can learn a lot, but meeting with a German in Germany, interacting on their turf , or being in Poland with the Polish, or the Czech Republic, or any country and you get an insight you will never get in South Carolina, never.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I have to agree with you about that. I live where we have the four seasons, and the winters get quite cold. I always thought it would be nice to live where it is warm all the time. Enter Southern California. I lived out there from 1977 to 1981, and I am here to say, I will never, ever step foot in Southern California again. It was a terrible, terrible place. English was a second language back then, so I cant imagine what its like now. It seemed there were no middle class, except the military. Everyone seemed either filthy rich or street people. People were unfriendly, and something was just not right about it being Christmas day, and 85 and sunny outside, not when your raised all your life with a White Christmas and snow and cold. People around here still have the perception of California like it was 50 years ago, when it was considered paradise, before the liberals and hollywood took it over and completed desecrated it and ruined it and allowed it to be taken over by illegal aliens. Perception, its not even close to reality.

        • Kate8

          karolyn – Maybe if you’d broaden your sources beyond NPR you’d learn something.

          • Mike in MI

            K88 -
            By what means could that occur?
            She comes here and she won’t learn…or hasn’t, at any rate. She’s sort of like King Herod of Biblical fame.
            When the Magi came inquiring where to go to find Bethlehem he believed them when they told him why they wanted to go there. And he was POSITIVE he wanted to go there, too. So, he did – - – to kill babies and try to defeat Truth.

          • Kate8

            Mike in MI – It’s easy to see where karolyn is coming from.

            She’s admitted that she is a recovering drug user. That means that she’s always had trouble coping with the realities of life. Now is no different. She’s just changed her coping mechanisms.

            To cope now she must delude herself into thinking that if she believes the forces at play are all benevolent, they will be. When all you have is air between your ears, all is well.

            This is why many leftists do what they do. They have no strong moral or faith foundation to support them, so they look to earthly messiahs.

            If (when) their bubble finally bursts…well, you get my drift.

            We can be understanding and patient with them now, but when the doodoo really hits the fan and we can’t pretend anymore, they will be useless.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Kate8:

            I am not trying to defend Karolyn, but she beat drugs (a very difficult thing to accomplish) so if she continues to hang around here she will probably beat her new addiction as well. One thing at a time. Only Der Fuhrer can multi-task – 3 wars, vacationing, golfing, basketball, jetting around the globe at our expense…..

            This is off-point, but did anyone hear how Obama’s “chattle” did with her garden harvest last Fall? I can hardly wait to watch clips of her running the tiller this Spring prepping the garden.

            Cut her a little slcak, for now.

          • karolyn

            Kate – I do resent being talked down to or about. As for my drug and alcohol use, that ended almost 30 years ago. How can it be that you and your conservative friends know EVERYTHING? That anyone who disagrees knows NOTHING? I just really don’t get it. I’ve already told DaveH that I just cannot spend all my time in front of the computer except at work and I do have to get some work done. The radio is on all the time, and I enjoy it. Besides, I still do not hear bias on NPR – at least not in the hours I listen. I have a full plate of interests. WE CAN’T ALL BE THE SAME! I am happy with who I am. Why should I be chastised for being who I am and thinking the way I think? It’s just plain ridiculous. We’re supposed to be adults here, but there’s too much childishness that goes on – cons and libs alike. Why am I going on like this? Got me.

          • Kate8

            karolyn – I have no illusions that you will ever wake up. Fine. You are happy. Enjoy it while you can. I was just making an observation. I have known many folks like you.

            But some of us have to live in the real world, and we won’t go down quietly. There is so much to be done, and SOMEONE has to do it.

            THE REALITY-DETACHED AMERICAN:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCxBDDk4Y-M

          • karolyn

            But, Kate, just what is it you’re doing? As I said a long time ago, commentig online is the new hangout, just like bars used to be, where people get together to bitch and moan about everything and solve all the ills of the world. I guess man has always gotten together to do the same – Caveman sitting around the fire complaining about the disappearance of the wildlife, etc.

            How I view the world and its inhabitants is just as valid as your view. I know we agree on some things; and I have learned a great deal on this site in the year or so I’ve been reading and posting. Despite what some might think, I am far from the enemy, though I feel like it sometimes.

          • DaveH

            Karolyn,
            How can you know NPR is unbiased when you don’t know all sides of the issue?

          • Vigilant

            karolyn says, “Besides, I still do not hear bias on NPR…”

            The House vote to defund NPR was 228 to 192, along party lines.

            That alone should tell anyone that NPR is biased. Unless, that is, you are claiming that the Democrats are all unbiased folks and the Repubs are biased.

            Had the vote been evenly distributed to include pro/con on both sides of the aisle, your statement might have some legitimacy. The nearly unanimous Democrat vote against defunding simply shows them up for what they are: purveyors of pink propaganda. The numbers don’t lie.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Karolyn:

            I do not agree with your politics from what I have read but, 30 years. That is something to be very proud of, especially if you have not had any “mis-steps”. In all sincerity I tip my hat to you for that.

            I have had several friends / co-workers over the last 20 years +/- who have had to beat the alcohol and admired them greatly for it. D & A can be a real demon. As a teenager I was addicted to sex, but birthdays have cured that….

            I am glad you are working. At least someone still has a job.

            It’s not that we here think our liberal friends are stupid. It’s just that you know so much that simply is not so.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Karolyn:

            “Caveman sitting around the fire complaining about the disappearance of the wildlife”. Now I learned something today! I had no idea there were Rebublicans around back then!

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Dave H:

            That’s why she comes here – to get educated. It’s a tough job, but I know we are up to the task.

          • Karolyn

            Dave – I get the other side of the issue here.

          • Karolyn

            Kate – I watched your video. So what is everybody supposed to do? Go out into the streets with wheeping and gnashing of teeth? Just because people aren’t talking about all the woes beset upon the world doesn’t meean they don’t know of them or care. Yes, I’m sure there is a segment of society who can’t see behond their front door, but I certainly don’t think they are a majority.

          • Kate8

            karolyn – There actually are some things we can do. I posted a wonderful video near the end of this thread, but no one will watch it.

            Why not? Because it gives a clue as to what we can do to begin to SEE one another in a different way, to learn to honor our humanity and our similarities.

            This video was done by someone with Republic magazine, out of desperation to find a spark of hope. It is so simple, so honest, and it changed me. Maybe a lot of us don’t really want to be changed.

            The answer isn’t with politicians. It is with us. It is in our ability to connect. We’ve lost this to a great degree, and with it we’ve lost our very souls.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            NPR – Non People Radio

        • libertytrain

          Karolyn, actually having been to many parts of the world does help, it helps quite a bit.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Karolyn will not get the truth from NPR, and how she says its non biased proves she isnt getting it. Yet her and people on the left, will say Glenn Beck is biased, when Glenn Beck will tell you that he is not a Republican, and he is the first to point out when the right does something he doesnt agree with. But it seems that since he is an intelligent guy, and he does some very indepth exposure of what the left is doing and what they are all about, their connections and to whom, and what their agenda’s are, that he gets labeled by the left, because he exposes the truth about them. Isnt that what the press and people on the radio are supposed to do, expose the truth? So Karolyn, you want to learn, maybe turn off NPR, and listen to Beck. If you dont like what he is saying, maybe investigate a little bit, like I used to do. And when you find he is continually telling the truth about these people, you need to look into yourself, and say “Oh my gosh, why am I supporting these guys”. Just some food for thought for Karolyn.

        • Vigilant

          karolyn says,

          “Time – You may have the benefit of being a world traveler, but most of the people here do not. That doesn’t make you an expert on everything (which you seem to believe you are.). We all have the right to our opinions and world travel has nothing to do with it.”

          World travel, and I have traveled the world myself, gives one something called “experience.” Does it make you an expert? Of course not. Does it facilitate the forming of opinions within the context of real life? Most definitely.

          One of the great canards, promulgated by academics who have little real life experience, is that you don’t need to conduct a business, interact with your fellow human beings “in the trenches” or take lessons from your naked observation of the world and its ways. In their feeble minds, they believe they can even revise history to conform to their myopic views.

          No Ma’am, you might get “educated” from books, but only life experience teaches you wisdom. The liberal might have a heart, but the conservative has a brain.

          Quite often, the conservative is the liberal who’s been mugged.

          • JeffH

            Hear Hear!

          • karolyn

            Vig – You have no idea. I may not have traveled the world, but I have interacted with a great variety of people over my lifetime in many different capacities.

          • Vigilant

            karolyn,

            That’s all fine and good. But remember, there are two types of people: those who have 50 years of experience, and those who have one year’s experience 50 times.

            There’s an emprical reason why youngsters tend to be liberal and oldsters tend to be conservative.

          • karolyn

            Vig – I think you know my age, Don’t you? At 64, I have had a VERY full life with much experience in MANY areas.

          • Michael J.

            Vigilant,
            Agreed, ask any military vetran what the difference is between training in a simulator and boots on the ground combat.

            Most Deceptocrats posting here don’t have enough real time life experience to be able to figure out how to pour pee out of a boot, even if the instructions are written on the heel.

          • Michael J.

            Karolyn said,
            “I think you know my age, Don’t you? At 64, I have had a VERY full life with much experience in MANY areas”.

            I hope this isn’t going to be a story about youthful promiscuity because trust me, WE DONT WANT TO KNOW!

          • Vigilant

            karolyn,

            I too am 64 years old. I’ve had 64 years of experience, not one year 64 times.

          • Karolyn

            Well gee, Vigilant, me too! It’s too bad we can’t compare war stories.

        • Carlucci

          karolyn – As I’ve mentioned a few times on this blog, I’ve traveled all over the world, too. Living in a foreign country in a different culture puts a much different perspective on things. Believe me, it does make a difference in a person’s world view. I wouldn’t feel safe traveling now, and I don’t want to subject myself to gate rape and porno scanners trying to fly out of town. But I feel very fortunate that I got the opportunity to do so.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Karolyn, sometimes years have nothing to do with political knowledge. I say this, because my dear father is 86 years old, was born and raised a democrat, and will never change, because some people just cannot leave their comfort zone or admit they were wrong. I constantly bring him things that exposed FDR as the lying cheat that he was. He wasnt even aware of Bill Clinton selling the unions jobs to Mexico or selling our technology to China, because our liberal press doesnt do a whole lot of reporting on things the democrats do. I was born and raised democrat Karolyn, as my parents told me that the democrats were for the working man and the Republicans were for the rich. Well, Im here to say, that once I stopped my hard partying ways, and starting to pay attention to this stuff, found out who Jesus Christ was and became interested in finding out the truth about everything, no matter what the answer was, I found out what a pack of lies this was. The democrats arent for the working man. It is all their stinking social giveaway programs that make the working man pay more and more taxes to pay for this crap. The democrats continue to enlarge and expand government, and it is the working man that pays for this. They are in bed and beholden to the labor unions, whom, after working with them 11 plus years, I can wholly say are the worst of worst examples of working men I have ever seen. “Its not my job” was pretty much the norm, and from guys I know that work at GM and Dana and other big UAW shops today, it is still the most prevalent way of working there, “its not my job”. Whereas the Republicans lessen the tax burden on business, which gives them more money, which allows them to hire more workers, which brings in more tax dollars into the federal coffers, and its a win, win situation. But everytime a democrat comes around, the economy takes a nosedive, or they just do terrible things like destroy the countries intelligence and military to use a smoke and mirror theory that they balanced the budget, while terrorists are roaming around free setting in motion the plans to blow up the countries largest buildings. So age has nothing to do with it Karolyn. Some can learn at 15 years old, some at 40, some at 60, some at 80, and some will never learn. Question is, which category do you want to fall into? The one that never learns, or the one that finally learned? Only you can answer that one.

      • Robert S

        It’s hard to believe that there are still people in this country that would believe anything a politician says.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          In the Spring of 1945 there were still Germans who believed, and believed in, the first Fuhrer. Come to think of it, as I remember he wasn’t born in Germany.

          • Carlucci

            Hitler was born in Austria.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Carlucci:

            It would appear that history is repeating, only the continents have changed.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            The new fuhrer, was born in Kenya.

        • Carlucci

          It is even harder to believe that there are so many of them.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            P.T. Barnum was ahead of his time.

          • Carlucci

            Old Henry – I really meant to say that Hitler was born in Austria; you know, like Obummer was born in Kenya…

      • Mike in MI

        Time -
        Ya, I agree O’Bomber is as much a humanitarian as King Herod who killed all the babies two years old and under. He’s a humanitarian on the order of Juan Peron, Mao or Fidel. He just hasn’t yet had a chance to show it because we’re still to strong and healthy – and able to resist. So he’s biding his time ’til we’ve been sapped dry.

        • Kate8

          Mike in MI – Congress is well aware that Obama is usurping authority he does not have, bypassing the powers expressly given to Congress alone (like going to war). And Obama is citing U.N. resolutions as his authority! What?

          And yet, there is no will among our august legislative body to do anything about it.

          So, it seems, Congress is, indeed, now irrelevant, and Barry and his handlers are free to run amok.

          • Mike in MI

            K88 -
            God, go to work on this so we can live quiet and peaceable lives in all godliness and honesty – until you call us outa this human cesspool. Daddy, I’m listenning for that shout and a trumpet sound!

            I wonder if all of our representatives and their families have been warned that terrible things will be done to them or their families if they defy swine fornicator-in-chief? This pushes the limits of credulity, doesn’t it?

          • Kate8

            Mike in MI – You bet they have. They well know the consequences of really bucking the PTB. The rest is for show.

            Haven’t you seen the video with the Senator reading (in horror), before a closed session of Congress, the memo that tells of the coming catastrophuc events in America? And the protocol to be followed for dealing with the masses?

            If they cooperate, they, and their families, will have a place in the underground city, to wait out the devastation. If not, they not only sacrifice their careers now, but will be left to the same fate as the rest of us.

            They know MUCH more than they’re telling us. And you are right. Our only real hope is God.

          • Kate8

            Sorry about the typo. ‘Catastrophic’.

            I was talking on the phone while typing.

        • TIME

          Mike,

          I think you as well as many others here have come to see that Barry Soetoro, has been planted in place as a face puppet.

          Saddly the ones that have yet to grasp that are still soundly sleeping at the wheel. Or Drooling rancid babble on their little bibbies, while making green ooze mush peas out the other end.

          Grab your nose and hold your breath, as this crap is only going to get deeper and far more rancid over the next number of months.

          • Mike in MI

            Hey, TIME, bless you -
            Yup, I knew after hearing the O’Bomber campaigning a couple times that if he got in he was born a failure. I just had NO idea how badly he’d represent, govrupt, tyrranize and convert people to the sect of Obamaism. The only thing he hasn’t gotten away with so far is to build a stadium big enough for his ego, crowd a herd in to fill it and make them chant “OBEY OBAMA…OBEY OBAMA…HAIL HUSSEIN HOBAMA”.
            I’m sure he has nocturnal emmissions over the prospect though.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            The sheeple will always blindly follow the left. That is what they do.

    • Marv

      Ya’ know…President Obama couldn’t do one thing right for these folks…not one thing. No matter what he does it’s wrong. “Bob Livingston” and his ilk just plain don’t like him. They don’t like most other people either, unfortunately. And really, no one would care what they think except they are trying to make laws that the vast majority of us are going to have to live by. And we can see how well that’s working in states like Arizona and Wisconsin…welcome to the fantasy world of the Tea Party.

      Now “Bob” would probably tell you he’s not a Tea Partier either…just a Constitution lovin’, flag wearing American. Really, he’s not real, but “Bob” does represent corporate interests and many of the rich, old white people of the USA. Like the Koch brothers. The status quo is being destroyed and they don’t like it one bit.

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Marv,

        Actually I do support the Tea Party and have attended some of their rallies. I assure you I am quite real and I’m not new to this game. I have been publishing a newsletter since 1969 and this site for almost three years.

        Corporate interests? Please explain what you mean and name them.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

        • Rob D

          Bob,
          He cannot explain or name any sources, he as most liberals talk out of both sides of their mouths. I have stated it before that if the opportunity arose the democrats would respond the very same way as Bush did in Iraq or Afghanastan. Where are the cries of foul from the press and the anti war people that he is a war monger, i have not heard one peep in the things i have read.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Where is that nut case what’s her name…. ah…

            Sheehan! That’s it! They must have put here back in her box and sealed the lid.

          • Kate8

            Old Henry – You know, as many of us are awakening to the manipulations and machinations of world elite money-changers, and are seeing the orchestration of world wars and events, I would be very angry, indeed, if my government would have sacrificed my son in such futile endeavors.

            I used to think she was a bit off kilter, too. She tried to meet with Bush to get some handle on her grief, but was basically told to go home and grieve like a good soldier’s mom, and get on with what’s left of her life.

            I have to say that, whether I agree with all she says or not, I admire her guts and her conviction. She didn’t go home; she stepped out into the brutal arena of public opinion and, in fact, put her own life on the line to speak her piece.

            I wish I were as courageous. Like her or not, she demonstrates the American spirit, without which, we are a gone nation.

          • Kate8

            BTW, my sister is a retired Army full-bird colonel. She did two tours in Viet Nam.

            She has awakened to what’s going on, too. And not only is she seeing what’s happening, but is dealing with many serious health issues because of years of mandatory vaccinations and contaminated bases and war zones.

            I respect the men and women in our military – there are several in my family. I just no longer believe they are being used for just causes. “Used” being the operative word here.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Kate8:

            Good points all. However, what I was really trying to point out is the fact that now that Bushy is gone and a democrap is there running the killing machine….. Where is she and her protesting?

            I am very sorry to hear about your sister. There is nothing else I can say. I too have some vets in my family – served in Nam. They are, however, not suffering from war related health issues.

            I do have a friend who retired as a full-bird Colenel who contracted some sort of disease in, as he puts it, one of the garden spots he was sent.

            We can only pray that ENOUGH of us have, and will, awaken in time.

          • Eddie47d

            Rob D; Sorry to burst your bubble but there are voices out there against this newest “war”. Go to liberal sites and you will hear the “Midnight Cry of Paul Revere”.You won’t be hearing too much from Republicans because…well they had their own wars to contend with.

          • JeffH

            R. Madcow and Ed “sgt” Shultz were sure giving exception and support for the POTUS over the Lybia air strikes. It had to be done was their call…I wonder what role Congress played in Obama’s decision to “attack” Libya? Try NONE!

            Impeachable offense? Ask Kucintch?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Kate8, the Sheehan lady was used like a rag doll by the democrats, to demonize the military, the war, and the republicans, and that is all it was, a political move for political advantage by the democrats. They used this poor greiving woman for their political gain. Those are the sick bastards that are running that party, both then and now. Its sad. And the government didnt sacrifice her child. He volunteered to be in the service, and there is a risk involved, but no one is purposely sacrificed.

          • Kate8

            Beberoni – I used to think that, too. But I’ve come to see that our military IS being used by the NWO elites (always has been) to bring about their world governance. Fighting for “freedom” is a ruse. There is no freedom. And while they are kept busy dying in overseas wars, in places we aren’t wanted and are non of our business, we are collapsing here at home under the same foreign agents who are using them to bring down the middle east, for no other reason than to destabilize the world and install their own puppets. In other words, they are using OUR OWN forces to destroy us.

            Yes, these honorable men and women volunteer to serve, courageously, but under false pretenses. If they knew that they were fighting FOR the same slavemasters they BELIEVE they are fighting against, they’d throw down their weapons and come home.

            So, yes, I do believe these young people are being sacrificed, and I believe that Ms. Sheehan woke up to that, too. Did the democrats use her to further their agenda? You bet. They always find a way to hijack a cause. MLK, case in point. But it doesn’t change the fact that BOTH sides of the aisle are complicit in this atrocity, and that we the people, all of us, have been, and still are, being duped, used, and held in utter disdain and disregard.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I dont know about all that Kate, but I fully supported then, and do now, going in and taking Saddam Hussein out, before it ended up like Hitler, where he dismanted almost the whole continent before we got involved. Left unchecked, real bad trouble would have ensued for our childrens children. He needed taken out. However, I would add, if I were the Bush admin, I would have let the liberals cry war for oil all they wanted, and I would have definitely taken enough of the oil to pay for the war, every cent of it. It is funny now, how I dont hear the liberal press crying about Obama’s war for oil, and hey, last I looked, its the same damn war, only now they have no interest in winning it. We all know the dems would like nothing more than for Iraq to collapse into the hands of terrorists, so they can point at the other guys some more. We all know it. And they have taken their eyes off of it to an extent, and its sad. But then again, the people have had a taste of freedom, and they like it. As to the neighboring peoples of Egypt, Tunisia, Iran, Bahrain and a few other places, and these people are rising up for their freedom also. When they all follow through and become free, I know of one guy they all are going to want to thank, and its not Barack Obama. Here here.

      • JR

        Ahh calm down a bid, Always, always remember who the people are that post articles here. Do some research and you will find out that they are nothing but paid chills hiding behind pseudonyms. They get paid for writing those articles by special interest groups, political action committees and junk stock con artists. They are pushing the fringe and its very good money for them. Do your research it is all on the web to be found, you may have to dig a bid but it is there.
        They get paid handsomely too, Mr Myers as an example gets 20k typical to push junk stocks(thanks you SEC filings).I don’t know how long he will still write here I read yesterday that there is a group of people in Brazil planing to file a class action lawsuit against him.
        I would not be surprised if they also write articles over on the the liberal sites and the communist blogs under different names….it’s all for the money.
        So, as long as you keep this in mind you will see that this site also has a lot of plus to bring to the people. It provides a space and medium for like minded people to discuss actual and up to date viewpoints. So don’t be to hard on those writers, remember they have families to feed to.

        • Rob D

          where’s your proof of those backers or is it just a hopeful guess. I have found people always accuse someone of what they are guilty for, meaning liberal writers (NPR) accusing conservative writers.

          • Kate8

            Well, since Odumbo is trying to force anyone posting on the internet to accurately identify themselves, that would silence a lot of people for fear of reprisal as dissidents.

            Let’s hope that doesn’t happen. A few brownshirts visiting would pretty end the discussion.

        • Jay

          JR, so right you are dude! Interesting little tid bit, a poll was recently conducted to determine who the average citizen trusts the most.

          The list according to most and to the least trusted:
          1.Scientists
          2.University professors
          3.Teachers
          4.Pastors
          5.Parents
          6.Government
          7.Blogs or bloggers

          I said to myself, how peculiar that blogs and bloggers were included in the list, and at the bottom.
          Well of course its at the bottom of the list, since such a public forum is the last vestige where freedom of speech can still be exercised. And be sure, that conservative blogs such as these, are monitored and infiltrated by moles. Very easy to spot them. You shall know them by their words!

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            The fact that parents and pastors are not 1 and 2 is very telling. The fact that professors are not last is also very telling.

          • Thamera

            I trust a poll less than an article just about any day. Polls can be manipulated to project almost any outcome that is desired simply based on how the questions are asked and what is asked as well as the group the data is pulled from. Case in point, this ridiculous poll that you posted here. As a collective, scientists have been a group that have gotten more things WRONG than they have RIGHT! LMAO

          • Jay

            Very troubling as well!!!

          • Robert S

            I thin I would put Bartenders at the top of the list.

          • Carlucci

            Lawyers and psychiatrists aren’t on that list? You’ve got to be kidding me. I would have put them right up at the top.

          • Vigilant

            Jay,

            Do you have a source for that poll?

          • Jay

            Absolutely, Thamera, just to be sure, I was not implying that polls are legitimate. I posted that as a critical response to JR’S ludicrous allegations he made in his post regarding Mr.Myers. By using the ridiculous poll, I was pointing out the fact that these social forums are infiltrated but for the purpose to disrupt and discredit. The fact that blogs and bloggers were at the bottom of the list, indicates to me the lack of mainstream influence on the people that engage in these social forums, and therefore, the subverts, take it upon themselves to undermine our collective and accurate perception of the state of our country. Perhaps that was a bit to subtle?

          • Frank

            a cite for that poll, please. I’d like to see that one since it deviates from anything I have seen.

          • Jay

            Vigilant, it wasn’t my intention to make the poll the focal point. It was what the poll implied. It implied two things to me. One, the fact that it was purposely placed at the bottom of the list, was a way to discredit and to give impression that blogs lack any sort of legitimacy. Two, I got the impression that blogs are of a concern in that freedom of speech cannot be curtailed, and, as well, due to the fact that main stream media does not have a dominant voice in these forums, they none the less, feel the need to assault these forums with subverts.

            The poll was presented on The Agenda with Steve Paikin.

          • Thamera

            lol :D that was good Jay

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I have to take issue with two of the groups on your list. One, is parents. I fully trust my parents more than anyone on the face of this planet that is walking around. They have my best interests far above all other men. The second is my pastor. I fully trust my pastor with everything, and to any and all of you out there, if you have a trust issue with your pastor, by all means, you need to find a new place of worship. My pastor is a man after God’s own heart, and it is evident by not only his words, but his actions. That is the telling tale. Those two would not be on my list at all.

          • Jay

            Beberoni, that is not my list! I just posted it.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Then I would like to know who the poser is that compiled this list, because I dont believe it for a minute. If you cant trust your parents or your pastor, your living in a different world than me, because those two are # 1 and # 2 on my list of people I trust, and on the list of 99.9 percent of the people I know as the top two we can trust. I would say who ever put together this list, has an anti God, anti family, anti American agenda. Sounds like a liberal to me.

        • Thamera

          Really JR? Back to the same old posts? That would mean calling Mr. Livingston a liar now, since in former threads he has addressed you directly regarding your mis-guided biases.

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear JR,

          More ad hominems? I addressed similar claims about me from you a couple of days ago. And as I’ve already stated, Mr. Myers is compensated by my company for his contributions. I gave you the benefit of the doubt before. But now I know that, rather than your being misinformed, you are simply lying.

          Regards,
          Bob

          • JeffH

            JR has two strikes now and still hasn’t been censored. Talk the same smack on a liberal website like Newsvine or the Kos and out you go…complete with full unadulterated censorship!

            Thanks Mr. Livingston for allowing these schills to play by the same rules as everyone else.

          • libertytrain

            Jeff, you are so correct.

      • JIBBS

        What would expect when the Costituion is throw aside. You should try reading it. And I thought he was going to end the two wars we are in, now he has started a third. Gitmo will be closed, oops, the trials will continue. Here, have some healthcare that nobody wants, and the list goe’s on, need I say more?

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        “Bob Livingston” and his ilk just plain don’t like him

        There is nothing there to like. He is a constitutional usurper. He is dedicated to brining down our country, and campaigned saying so in so many words. We intelligent thinking voters saw that and voted against it and we are still opposed to it.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Not sure what you are saying there, as you seemed to lean one way then back the other. But rest assured, Obama is on his way out, and will lose by one the largest counts in the 2012 election, if his party even lets him run. Already over 60 of his henchmen were sent packing in 2010, and the rest are soon to follow. This country loves what is going on in Wisconsin, Indiana, and Arizona, where states are finally doing the right thing, and trying to enforce immigration policies and balance state budgets, things the Federal Government not only refuses to do, but lends a helping hand in backing illegal immigrants and keeping states in debt. But those are just the facts.

      • Mike in MI

        Marv -
        You think you’re not part of the “status quo” O’Bomber is destroying?
        How do you plan to avoid the crunch when his hobnailed basketball shoe descends? Do you dream there will be some sort of marvelous discrimination to it? It’d be a first.
        But, I guarantee you when he tells his muslim friends to have at it, you better answer their one question about what you worship right. Or, doesn’t Allah want you…either?

      • bbstacker

        Koch Brothers…Like The Heritage Foundation. Mighty fine outfit for those who prefer the truth or at least the perspective of seeking the truth where Christianity and Self-Reliance are concerned. What is nonexistent in the context of zerobama is that the MSM is dead-silent on his “oil war”…no Sheehans screaming outside the WH gates, no protests in the streets with banners of obama and biden with demonic eyes. Nothing…just….crickets.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Marv… Are you one of those who lives off the government? Is that why you embrace Barry so tightly? Is he providing your food stamps and welfare check?

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          And extended unemployment, and more WIC, and more Project Head Start that has been proven to be a multi billion dollar waste. Yeah, I think Marv is one of those. And I for one, am tired of paying his way.

      • JeffH

        Marv, when all else fails, attack the “messenger”. You “talk the talk” but until you provide some “concrete” facts in your attack on Mr. Livingston you can’t “walk the walk”. I’d suggest that you zip it or produce some irrefutable facts!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        So Marv, let me get this right. Its a color thing with you? I mean, why else you would mention “rich white guys” instead of just rich guys. Is it because they are white they are bad? But if they were black rich guys, that would be ok? I mean, why you gotta even mention the color of these guys? I will tell you why, because your a racist, or you wouldnt have even mentioned anyones skin color. And just as Obama is a jerk, it has nothing at all, and I mean nothing at all to do with his skin color. He is half white you know. It has to do with his political affiliation with the democrat party, who is wholly owned and guided by one George Soros, the anti-American. So put your race card away Marv. A black one, well, a half black man, is now president. If he can do it, any one else can do it. Color can no longer hold you back, and its been proven. So the race card is dead, put it away, and quit trying to stir up racial hatred. Shame on you.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      ASG:

      Are you a complete idiot, or just a part-time idiot? Littel Barry does not have a clue. He is nothing more than a Chi Ka Go gangster community organizer. It’s time you people pulled your heads out of your a$$e$ and saw the light of day.

      Why don’t you nit wits move to Europe and leave this great contry for real Americans? That way you can live under the kind of socialist / facsist regimes you seem to admire so much.

      • Sue B

        Old Henry,
        Keep it up – your messages are great and right on!

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          SueB:

          As the Duke said: “Life is tough pilgrim. It’s even tougher when you’re stupid”.

          Too bad he and Mr. Heston are dead, or maybe it’s good. It would, however, be VERY intersting to hear what they would have to say about Little Barry Soetoro the facsist Kenyan constitutional usurper.

          • Kate8

            Old Henry – Our parents’ generation would NEVER have allowed Soetoro to set foot in our WH.

            They had to wait 2 generations to dumb us sufficiently down to the point where they’d put someone like him in front of a camera and get him elected.

            We’ve become a disgrace to the memory of all those who’ve before us, many of whom gave their lives to prevent this very thing from becoming reality in America.

          • JeffH

            Old Henry, this ones just for you and all of the freedom loving patriots.

            John Wayne “America Why I Love Her”
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sekHkR5BKOY

          • Eddie47d

            Great video Jeff but can we get the Koch brothers to stop polluting this beautiful country and the Massey Mining Co. to stop killing it’s workers? Can we get BP to stop desecrating our beaches? Can we stop those crony capitalist anti- environment lawbreakers from bending the rules in there favor but at our expense? Can we keep America The Beautiful?

          • JeffH

            eddie, as the great iconic American Patriot John Wayne once said:

            “Life is tough, but it’s tougher when you’re stupid.”
            (thank Old Henry)

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            JeffH:

            Thank you for the link. It gave me goosebumps while I listened. “They’ll take my John Wayne movies when they pry them from my cold dead hands”. How’s dat fer a spin-off?

          • JeffH

            OH, amen and ditto that, along with my guns…LMAO!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Good post Old Henry. I have a picture of the Duke next to my desk, and under it, it says “Now just why in the hell do I have to press 1 for English”. Lots of truth in that little sentence.

      • Carlucci

        I agree. ATTENTION ALL LIBTARDS- !: Line up to the left and get the hell out of America. Find a place where all of you control freaks can micromanage and tax each other to death.

        • Carlucci

          P.S. And good riddance to bad rubbish.

          • Eddie47d

            Thank God Liberals aren’t going anywhere!Someone has to watch you foxes trying to guard the hen house.If you foxes are so good and want to be team captain again you better try alot harder. You left Liberals with one heck of a mess and it’s been tough digging out. Yes those Liberals have taken two steps forward and one step back but at least we can see daylight. How about grabbing a shovel and help dig us out if you’re not afraid of a little work.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Eddie:

            I can’t imagine liberals thanking God for anything. They are their own god.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            eddie your a lying little liberal. Those left wingers have not taken a step forward at all. They have taken at least 10 backwards, and are still going that way. But your not interested in the truth, that is obvious to anyone who has read any of your posts.

        • Jay

          Carlucci, that was sublime!!! LOL!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Isnt it just wonderful how the press never investigated and made it front page news day after day after day, about his relationships with Tony Rezko, a slum lord con man, Bill Ayers, a domestic terrorist. Rev. Wright, a racist pastor, Obama’s muslim studies, Michelle’s 6 figure salary at the Hospital for a part time job. How does all these things just get glossed over? Had this been a Republican or a Libertarian, it would be filling up the papers and TV news still today about all these relationships. But the long legged Mack Daddy gets a pass. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Its all so wrong.

    • Jay

      ASGreen, you need some serious therapy! First of all, he’s a puppet, not a leader of a Sovereign nation, and like the spineless puppet of wall street that he is, he will do as he’s told. He is systematically destroying this country, as per his instructions from his masters, and whatever he may performs abroad is nothing more then a dog answering to his master’s whistle.. You are seriously deluded, ASGreen!

    • JIBBS

      WTF, are you that stupid? Please go TROLL somewhere else!

      • Jay

        It appears we have a serious mole infestation!!!

    • Bert Cundle

      Hillarys Falt… O’bomba the Duck in the Crock pond!

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        I heard some commentator waxing on the other day about how tired, terribly tired, Hillary is.

        I got to thinking about that and realized that she probably is since she is doing two jobs. Sec of State and President (again).

        • bbstacker

          and all of that DRYCLEANING! Oh my! Ha!

          • Kate8

            Old H – I would thing that treason could get a bit stressful after a time.

            Hillary has been knocked down a couple of pegs since her WH bid. She’s finding out what a rough bunch she’s been playing with.

            A far cry from the idealistic college socialist activist of her youth.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Kate8:

            I might have missed it, but I have not heard that reprobate chld molester / rapist she’s attached to defending her as of late.

        • JeffH

          Old Henry, you’re killing me today. Keep it up, you’re on a roll!

          two thumbs up

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            JeffH:

            Thank you. And if I don’t get outta this chair and DO something i’m gonna look like a roll….. Gotta get back to my bikini weight for my summer sun worshiping.

          • JeffH

            OH, I hope you make it but I’m not envisioning any of it, except the part about the sandy beach…lol

    • http://Persoanllibertydigest Jim

      I can’t believe you actually saying this propaganda– do you actually believe it — The United States of America should not be involved in a civil war in Libya, a war for oil for Britain and France. If we the world wanted to take out Mohmar — We should have supported the Brits sending in their special ops forces and had them expedite his departure from this world — We need to remember that we are BROKE and any expenditure not in our national interest, is a total waste of our country’s limited resources. The military hardware were using around the world costs the tax payers millions to replace and repair — Next you’ll be telling me we need to rebuild what we destroy in this war — Come on get a grip

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Jim:

        Yes we are BROKE! Who is going to reimburse us for this unfunded war?!

        Do you, or anyone here, know how many pounds of jet fuel those planes use per minute / hour to maintain the no-fly zone?! I heard it takes EIGHTEEN tankers running constant re-fueling missions for the FOUR ships maintaining the no-fly zone.

        • Kate8

          Old H – Have you ever thought about how much jet-fuel those planes burn spraying chemtrails over the entire globe, 24/7/365?

          And they say WE waste energy? (We pay for that, too, BTW.)

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Now Katie, you’re becoming conspiratorial. Eddie’s gonna be on ya like a duck onna June Bug….

        • Eddie47d

          Old Henry; I don’t like our little busy body business in Libya but did you do this much harping and complaining when Bush invaded Iraq? If not then don’t worry about jet fuel if you didn’t care about the Trillion dollars spent in the other wars.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Edwardo:

            I did complain about Bushy’s spending, but there weren’t places like this to vent. Or, at least none that I knew of. However, at the time we were not in the financial disaray that the country is currently in. And Obama has accelerated the spending to dizzing heights as his most recent budget proposal shows

            And remember, W would not have been in the White House if Albore had carried his HOME STATE. He would not have needed FL.

          • JC

            Eddie47d says:
            March 23, 2011 at 3:04 pm
            Old Henry; I don’t like our little busy body business in Libya but did you do this much harping and complaining when Bush invaded Iraq?
            ________________________________________________________________

            Damned Straight! Iraq was and is an illegal war.
            Were you paying attention to conservative blogs back then eddie?
            Or do you just assume all us conservatives had our noses up Bush’s butt? Hardly!
            For the most part we are Constitutionalists eddie…that means no foreign intevention.

        • JeffH

          OH, was that the sound of an F-18 that just flew by or was it just another liberal whiner!

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            JeffH:

            Probably a liberal whiner on a wind-powered skate board.

    • Conservative at Birth

      You missed the point of the article. Obama, failed to lead, and chose to follow instead. He waited 6 months to provied the troops that had been requested in Afghanistan, and then did not provide the number requested. He is indecisive at best. He will be proven to be seen as one of the worst Presidents in our history, along with Carter, Wilson, and both of the Roosevelts. You may want to lay off the kool aid for awhile and quite being an ostrich.

      • Thamera

        Oh no, it’s not a failure of leadership…didn’t you know, Obama just “takes his time” and “listens to all sides” before making a decision! I know, it must take a lot of vacations, golfing and partying and mulling over his picks for his basketball brackets to help him make a decision. LOL! Let’s pray we don’t find ourselves then in an immediate national crises that requires immediate leadership…and you people wonder why Obama is criticized? (JR)etc.

        • Kate8

          Thamera – Ever notice how Barry and his entourage disappear on vacation every time they stir up a crisis?

          It’s like the bully who throws a punch and then turns tail and runs.

          Are they betting that someone just might, at some point, try to retaliate? Or maybe, even, hoping so?

          • Robin from Arcadia, IN

            Kate 8… Be careful… JO will be raising up to tell you that Barry has only been on 2 weeks of vacation this year and that you are jealous. You and I and the majority of the United States knows that Barry ducks out every opportunity he gets. He should be balancing the budget and be here to discuss Libya. But alas, he is leaving that to Hillary!

          • Eddie47d

            Now if Pawlety leaves the shores of the USA will you criticize his every move?

        • Patty

          Tamara – Actually, he is waiting for the “real” person in charge of him to get back to him to let him know what he is suppose to do. And then he has to wait for his script writers to put it in the teleprompter. Then and only then can he address the American people.

          • Kate8

            Patty – You got it.

            He’s proven time and again his inability to speak coherently off-the-cuff.

            No doubt they’ve admonished him not to ever do it again, but to wait until he’s given his script. Getting him out of the country is the best way to keep him away from having to do press conferences.

            Of course, they always select WHICH press, and have pre-approved questions.

          • JeffH

            Maybe the teleprompter went on the blink…his non scripted speech sounds like this: Today I ummm huuh sat down with mmm uhhh my advisers and uhh mmm duhhhhh….you get the gist of it anyway.

        • 45caliber

          “Working Vacation”: a vacation where at least one minute of work must be done so you can farm the cost of the vacation off on someone else to pay.

          Sounds like Oblama’s “trips” doesn’t it?

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            45:

            The problem with Little Barry’s trips is that WE are stuck wtih the tab to haul him, his family and the outragous entorage around whether his “working” or jerking off in the snadtrap behind the number 9 green.

          • Kate8

            Old H – At least Clinton just went ahead and used the WH sinks.

            Ugh. I’m going to be sick.

    • fedupwidit

      no one is tearing into Obama for doing what he did, at least not me, it is the way he did it, he is so freaking arrogant he is going to act without any constitutional guidelines whatsoever, only COngress can declare war, he answers to the united nations not the USA and that pisses me off and it is going to get his dumbass impeached!

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        fedup:

        “and it is going to get his dumbass impeached!”

        Don’t hold your breath. Remember, we have a Speaker who has stated he thinks Little Barry is a citizen of our country. He is a spineless DC elitist who is in on it up to his neck. The only hope will be the TEA Party House members.

        We need to attend our Reps Town Hall meetings this month while they are home AND RAISE ABSOLUTE H*LL!!!

        • Kate8

          Old H – My Congressman came right and and said that it’s doubtful Congress will take any action against him, no matter what he does.

          He said it’s up to US. He said it’s ALWAYS been up to us.

          How? Wait until the next election?

          What do we send those “reps” to DC for, anyway?

          We may not have a country by 2012.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Kate8:

            YOu should have told your rep EXACTLY what you stated here. Looked him right in the eye so he could see the FIRE in yours. My rep has a meeting tonight, but it’s about 40 miles one way and I have no way of getting there.

    • catzpaw

      You are living in the land of Oz, ASGeen. Obama is piece by piece destroying this country. His war in Libya is just another step to bankrupt this county. This make three wars he is fighting which are very expensive. If you think the national debt doesn’t matter, you really have your head in the sand. Obama knows that is the best and easiest way to bring this country down so he is doing everything he can to raise it. Does this sound like a true American or a Libyan Muslim set on the destruction of the United States. Actions speak louder than words.

      • Eddie47d

        Are you implying that Obama is a Libyan Muslim? I guess that guy has been born everywhere according to you truth seekers.

    • 45caliber

      AS:

      Is this supposed to be sarcasm? I find it hard to believe that we have someone in the US who is this blind.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        45:

        My good man, we have MILLIONS of them….

        That’s what makes Libs “blue”. They have their heads up their a$$e$ and can’t breath.

        • Kate8

          O H – It’s not just a coincidence that the a$$ is their mascot.

          • 45caliber

            Kate: True. I’ve always thought they picked the correct animal considering it is stubborn and dense….

          • Jay

            LOL, you two are killing me!!!

    • http://www.wellington-luxury-homes.com Katerina

      @ASGreen- Hmmm, so if Obama is doing this to save the people of Libya from this awful dictator and his torturing his people, etc… does that mean you were supportive of Bush the second, getting Sadam out of power in Iraq? Because he was known for putting his people through paper shredders and his son raped many virgins. While these dictators are horrific- the ones who come into power after them- are no better. Libya is a tribal country, there is no clear leader, they will continue to kill and torture each other even after their dictator is out of there.
      We are not the policemen of the world. We have hungry children here in the U.S. to feed, we have people here we need to help. While I like the idea of getting rid of evil men in power- how many of our sons and daughters need to die to only see another dictator rise up? You are not going to have democracy in most of the middle east. You are going to have theocracy.
      In Afganistan- there is a man there who was a Muslim. He fought in the war for their freedom along side Americans. He lost one of his limbs in the war. He has a wife and 6 children. One of his children is handicapped. He converted to Christianity. In the NEW Afganistan he was arrested and then sentenced to death because of his religion. Of course, the media did not cover this. The president of their country was asked to intervene. You know what he said? If this is the law, then this is the law. So is that what our sons and daughters died for???? The end of the story is that Hillary CLinton did broker a deal to get him and his family to the US for political asylum.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Katerina:

        You spoke very well, and true. After reading your post I vaugly remember that story. Since he was a Christioan I was suprised that Hillary could be bothered.

        “We have hungry children here in the U.S. to feed, we have people here we need to help”. And after Little Barry and his boss are done here there will be many, many more….

      • Jay

        You are so right, Katerina! The commanders of the western coalition forces, including their politicians, lack serious understanding regarding the mentality of the people in that region. Despite what they would have us believe, they are not there for humanitarian reasons, far from it. These intrusions are for the purpose of maintaing power and control. Seems every now and then, they feel the need to reassure themselves of that fact! The strategy is simple, the coalition send in subverts to stir up the people, when it reaches crisis proportions, the coalition comes to the rescue.

      • Eddie47d

        Katerina; You are right and thank you for the story. Karzai is a puppet and a weak kneed leader. He won’t stand up for anything except padding his bank account. Also thank you for giving credit(Hillary) where credit is due.

    • JC

      ASGreen says:
      March 23, 2011 at 12:19 am
      John Myers, how dare you tear into Obama? He is doing exactly what he needs to do to bring a mad man like Momar Quadafi to justice for his crimes against innocent civilians. For the first time in decades the United States has a President who actually cares about people around the world and the freedoms and rights that they deserve.
      ——————————————————————–

      Are we talking about the same “mad man” who has been doing business with the US for over 30 years?
      And while we’re rescuing the entire planet from itself…what should we rename the planet…Obamaland?

      You have NO idea what morality truly is.
      We have NO business ineterfering with the internal affairs of a sovereign nation, NONE!

      If we habd this “revolution” to the revolutionaries on a silver platter they will not have earned it and they will merely be dependant on the US…like half the planet already is.

      We can’t afford it andf Obama is merely engaiging in what has become an age old American Tradition of nation building…which is agin none of our business and completely immoral.

      Now! head on down to Starbuck’s for a latte and a group hug.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        “they will merely be dependant on the US…like half the planet already is”.

        And according to stats half the U.S. population.

        WE MUST ATTEND OUR REPS TOWN HALL MEETINGS AND RAISE ABSOLUTE H*LL ABOUT THIS!! We must also demand his removal.

        • Kate8

          O H – I hate to tell you, but our Congress is not listening to us anymore. They take their marching orders from the same group as Soetoro, and they carry a bigger stick than we do.

          Congress has become irrelevant, just as the Canadian Parliament has. I don’t think they’re concerned about the 2012 election, either. Harry Reid is a perfect example of this.

          If we even have a 2012 election.

    • bbstacker

      If you think FDR was a great leader, you have no clue about the reality of his history. FDR “ran” America for 12 years, and the ONLY thing that shutdown his running of this Republic into the ground was World War 2. FDR spent money like a drunken Obama, but then, Obama has spent like a drunken idiot, to the tune of 1.4 TRILLION dollars in one single year, and had yet to secure the Southern border of the United States or “fix” an economy augmented into default because of his mismanagement and having NO clue about the Constitution or fiscal responsibility. Quack-daffy doesn’t deserve one cruise missile of your federal tax dollars, he poses no threat to the United States, only to Europe who was already setting up shop to bring him down. Zerobama can’t decide what to have for lunch without somebody handling that for him, I am quite sure. Where is the MSM enraging the masses of lemmings to go camp outside his retreat, storm the gates in Washington, burn effigies of him, and wave the banners of “No blood for Oil” or “Obama Oil”? Where? …crickets

    • libertytrain

      AsGreen -Wow this has to be tongue in cheek sarcasm.

    • spitfire

      Get back in your cage !!!

    • RobinP

      What in the hell have you been smoking???

    • RobinP

      What have you been smoking? You are a total idiot and obviously blind.

    • DaveH

      Oh sure, AS, and you know who the opposition forces are?
      The truth is that it is none of our business to be involved in other countries’ politics. We can’t even tell who the bad guys here are, and we’re supposed to take sides in a foreign country?
      Only zealots will follow their party leader no matter what stance he takes. Liberals are Zealots with only one real main goal — taking the money of others.

    • chow

      I don’t know if your post is meant for real or sarcasm but I read it as a joke.

      • Dawn

        I thought it was a joke too!!!

    • herman richardson

      Are you on dope?? You have to be or else you are an idiot.

    • raw livic

      You are drunk on the clowns Kool Aid..2 nations with Mad Men as leaders have obtained Nuclear Weapons under the watch of this Nobel Peace Prize Clown and now he goes and picks a fight that you have no clear objetive.It’s clear the man is a bathone with no leadership ability. While the world burns he’s haming it up with his posse in Brazil telling them how to drill for oil–Sorry Clown the world can see you behind the smoke and mirrows you use to mask your Idiot plans.

    • wandamurline

      And sir you are a fool. This man deserves to be impeached and it done immediately. The first reason he should be impeached is that the Constitution of the United States of America does NOT give him the power to declare war on a country that is not in the act of war against America without congressional approval, and that is a fact. Look it up if you don’t believe me. Second, he should be impeached because he has committed crimes against the American people. One of the few responsibilities given the federal government by the Constitution is to keep America from invasion. When you have 12 million illegal aliens in this country from Mexico…then Mexico has invaded the US. Not only does Obama and Holder do nothing to stop the carnage, they actually choose to aid and abette the invaders. The impeachable reason is whey Obama and Holder sued Arizona, a state of this Republic, in defense of the invaders from Mexico and then allowed Mexico to sue Arizona also. This is an impeachable offense and should be done immediately, and then charges of treason filed against both of them.

      • Vigilant

        The War Powers Act gives the president 60 to 90 days to act before seeking official Congressional authorization for military action. That’s a fact.

        I’m no fan of Obama, and I think he’s totally misguided in getting involved with Libya, but what he’s doing is legal.

      • Eddie47d

        Wandamurline; If you want anyone to take yourself serious then head on down to Dallas and put a rope around Bush’s neck and then see if you can get Cheney out of his bunker. Did he ever come out? They helped a whole heap in getting these Middle East fires burning and most of the illegals came in during that same time period. That is if you mean what you say and want to impeach. Set an example with the real culprits and then I will believe what you mean. If not then I will believe something else.

        • Jay

          Eddie47d, let the dead rest in peace. We are presently dealing with the living dead, let’s focus on him!

          • Eddie47d

            Set an example when it was relevant not after the fact as you all seem to be doing with history.

        • libertytrain

          I think it’s very telling that eddie is encouraging a lynching, KKK style. hmmm.

    • Dawn

      I thought ASGreen was being fecetious, but after reading other comments I gather he was actually being serious … WOW …

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Just another proof that some people shouldnt be allowed to pro-create. That shallow end of the gene pool that guys like AS come out of are killing us.

    • Cathy

      If you think that FDR was a “great leader” it’s easy to see why you defend Obozo. Isn’t it strange that the 22nd Amendment was ratified after he died in office to make sure that the US didn’t have another FDR stay around too damn long? HIS policies, i.e., the “New Deal,” prolonged the Great Depression.

      Now this clown in the WH is doing the same thing…destroying the economy of the US…with his idiotic policies.

    • traderphil

      ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?? What has Obama done to help anyone except his Banking and Corporate sponsors???? That is right !! NOTHING!! Unless you call spending more of taxpayers $$$ than ALL OTHER PRESIDENTS COMBINED, TO DATE!!! Not a single person has been charged after the Banksters robbed the world !! The SAME people who ran the finance system before the global rip-off are STILL IN THE SAME POSITIONS!!! In fact Obama has even INCREASED the number of Bankers in his inner circle!! GoldmanSachs were his BIGGEST CONTRIBUTORS during his election campaign and he has surely paid them back by allowing them to get off scot free, as they made RECORD PROFITS while the rest of the world falls apart under the Banksters blatant use of Derivatives!!!! He will prove to be the absolute WORST President the USA has ever had!!!! Time will prove that !!!!! Unfortunately! He can talk well though and most people do absolutely NO DUE DILIGENCE and respond with emotions instead of common sense!!! It WILL and IS costing you dearly!!!

    • vicki

      ASGreen says:
      “and the freedoms and rights that they deserve.”

      Interesting turn of phrase. Not the freedoms and rights bestowed opon them by their Creator but that they deserve. And who pray tell is going to decide which they deserve?

      ASGreen: “This is his humanitarian mission that is saving lives”

      Shooting missiles and rockets at people is humanitarian? Why then are you and other liberals so upset with Bush? That’s all he did on those 2 little wars liberals have railed against for YEARS. Oh and was barry going to end those any time soon?

      Hypocrisy anyone?

    • Red

      His bombing of Libya has nothing to do with any humanitarian. He is letting the UN use our troops and treasure for their own goals. Kis interest is in creating a base for the Muslim Brotherhood to take over in Libya and Egypt. You are a mental cripple f you belive one word of what you say. If such were the case4 he would have told somebody7 in our government before he ceded to the UN Security Council

    • fundamentalattributionerror

      Great comment ASGreen. I could not agree with you more. Bravo!

    • ONTIME

      I’ll be willing to buy you a good lunch at a drive up window if your right about Lib-Ya…..It’s real emebarassing to realize that all this time the enemy of my enemy is nothing more than my enemy too.

      Barry is a illgitmate embarrassment, unwilling to submit to the law he violates.

    • S.C.Murf

      This statement could not be farther from the truth, why has he turned his back on the murder and mayhem that is taking place just across our border with Mexico. He doesn’t have to cross an ocean for this one just go a little to the south and he won’t even do that. That’s because his handler has told him not to. What a waste of human flesh he is.

      up the hill
      airborne

  • http://google mike b.

    Hussein Obama is a THUG!!!!

    • ASGreen

      Five worded arguemnts don’t count, esecially when two of them are the name of AMERICA’s President!

      • Mike in MI

        AS Green -
        I’ll bet, if he were ABLE to be H-O-N-E-S-T, ol’ BO Plenty would tell you different. He represents something or someone else that he can’t, at least won’t, expose. What do you see that indicates he seems to like our nation, fundamental national organizing documents and declarations, our economic system, our legal establishment (except that at present it allows him latitude to wreak havoc on it all) or any part of our heritage?
        President??? Mole-in-Chief, I’d say.

        • 45caliber

          lol: BO Plenty is the PERFECT name! Particularly if you have ever seen the original!

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          We must remember Little Barry is saving Russia untold millions in the KGB budget as they no longer need spys here. They have Obama.

          • 45caliber

            True. And all the other countries too.

      • JC

        That wasn’t an argument Green..it was a statement, and a correct one at that.

      • bbstacker

        Usurper. Soros puppet. Jackass. Mr. Executive Order. Czar boy. Transparency reinvented to mean Invisible. Bush was a progressive, but this one is an outright liar.

        • DaveH
          • bbstacker

            Dave is the Man! Excellent video Link…and…wait for it….Proof that zerobama is liar. He delivered a winning ToastMaster performance to cloud the minds of those who chose not to dig up the truth on him: nobody from nowhere with no experience to do what he debated he’d accomplish. It was far easier to deal with one question at a time on the panel, but now that he’s in the real deal, it’s a whole ‘nother ball game. So…he goes on vacation…to escape the heat.

          • Eddie47d

            Dave and his piece-mealed videos. Hip Hip Hooray! The Republicans did stop his withdrawal timeline.He has withdrawn troops from Iraq and his first term isn’t over yet. Nice try Dave and you may still win with the last one.

          • JeffH

            DaveH, now you’ve done it…gone and pissed 47D off.

          • DaveH

            Yep, Jeff, and he has the same lame comment as usual. If Obama wanted the Troops out in 2009, the Republicans couldn’t have stopped him.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            DaveH:

            Good link. I am going to return the calendar that I bought as it is printed incorrectly.

          • vicki

            Eddie47d throws out another impossible eddie47d Fast Factoid:
            “The Republicans did stop his withdrawal timeline.”

            Eddie, do you ever wonder why your credibility here is so close to zero as to be zero? It is statements like above. The democrats and Obama had 2 FULL years of super majority and filibuster proof Congress and the Presidency yet you make a fools statement like that. Even if the Congress were 100% Republican they STILL Could not STOP him from withdrawing troops. He is the CIC.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Hey AS, just living proof that American’s make mistakes sometimes. And they also are smart and learn from them, and that is why this piece of (sensored by me) will be voted out of office in 2012. And probably by the largest amount of votes ever. Watch and see AS.

    • herman richardson

      And ASG must be getting a big check to have such thoughts

      • Red

        It is because of jerks like A. S. Green that we have a radical Muslim in the White House

  • http://google mike b.

    Lord have mercy 2012 cannot get here quick enough! I guess Hussein Obama is the world’s police chief now! I don,t think America has ever had a pres. declare war on foreign soil. No consulting congress. why doesnt he extend his so-called humantarian mission in Rowanda, Iran, N. Korea, Egypt, Yemen and Endonesia. He is wasting money and resources the US does not have. We are stretched too thin, he is bombing Pakistan, troop-surge in Afghanistan, troops still in Iraq. He should give his phony Nobel Peace prize back. He is suppoting these rebels in Libya, whose identy and loyalty is unknown and many have ties to terriosts. He is so all-over-the map and flip-flopping it is pathetic. We are nearing $5 gas, rising food prices, inflation, possible nuclear meltdown in Japan and runaway spending and debt in our shrinking economy, rising un-employment near 10%, which is more like 20% counting people who have give up and all the extra IRS agents hired, and where is Hussein Obama? Where is his minions in the mainstream media who got him elected, and why are they not asking Hussein Obama these questions? What is he doing? What is our mission there and what is the exit strategy. If Bush had done this the criminals in the mainstream media would be harrasing him 24/7. Great article and observations Mr. Myers and keep up the great work PLD. We must vote Hussein Obama and his THUG adm. , including THUG NO. 1 HOLDER, out in 2012 to restore America to its once great status and respect and a un-apologetic, proud, patriotic, real american with a valid birth cert. , president who loves America. We must do this for our children, and their children!! God bless America, while we still can and before Shira Law will prevent us praying!!

    • karolyn

      WA WA WA! Same S–t over and over!

      • Mick

        karolyn says:
        March 23, 2011 at 7:30 am
        WA WA WA! Same S–t over and over!
        *********************
        karolyn You’re so well set on defending the left that when that S-t as you call it come to hit you square in the face don’t come and cry to me, you won’t like the outcome………..

        • karolyn

          Mick – In my lifetime it’s hit me square in the face more times than I’d like to admit. I have no doubt that no matter what happens with anything, I will survive and thrive. I come from sturdy Polish peasant stock! I just calls ‘em as I sees ‘em. Glad I don’t get my rocks off [offensive word removed] and complaining all the time and making things worse! Have a wonderful day, Mick!

          • Mick

            karolyn says:
            March 23, 2011 at 8:17 am
            Mick – In my lifetime it’s hit me square in the face more times than I’d like to admit. I have no doubt that no matter what happens with anything, I will survive and thrive. I come from sturdy Polish peasant stock! I just calls ‘em as I sees ‘em. Glad I don’t get my rocks off [offensive word removed] and complaining all the time and making things worse! Have a wonderful day, Mick

            *******************************
            karolyn……………..
            I am glad you’re under the impression that you will survive and thrive, try to tell that to the the Muslims, they are so found of women,,The bastards have already taken over Europe, why do you think France was so eager to get involved in this crisis and with the help of people like you America is headed in the same direction in a hurry.

            As for the complaining you’re referring to in your post, good grief girl, you people are masters at it and make a mountain out of mole hills on a regular basis but when it comes to the destruction of our country , not a peep….get you priorities straight………..

          • JIBBS

            I’m insulted that you are Polish, I guess you forgot what Hitler did to us, with you leading the way, it looks like it may happen again. Please, just stop talking and go spend a few days and study history, and not the NEW school books that they print now.

          • Jimmy

            On Sunday, as we read the Sunday paper, my wife (who has been a fanatic Obama supporter for years) asked me, “why are we bombing Libya?”
            I showed her what Barack said, and she asked, if we are there because Khadafy is killing his own people why are we still doing nothIng in Sudan? Mass killings of both Muslims and Christians continues and yet we still ignore the Sudan. Democrats and Republicans alike ignore the untold thousands (potentially millions) of people murdered/martyred there.
            Then we saw that Barack actually notified us that we were actually bombing Libya in a “hastily” arranged statement while he was in Brazil on a working family vacation. This is the sort of announcement that should have been made from the Oval Office. After the casual presumptive was he treated the men and women serving our country in the US Military forces I wouldn’t be surprised if not one active duty, inactive duty, former military, or retired refused to vote for such a self serving egotistical thug in 2012.
            At least before Bush attacked Iraq he had a congressional vote authorizing the action.
            But this president as no trouble substituting his judgment for that of congress and the Courts. When will someone tell this tyrant in chief “no” and enforce that “no?”

            .

          • Mick

            Jimmy says:
            March 23, 2011 at 9:47 am
            On Sunday, as we read the Sunday paper, my wife (who has been a fanatic Obama supporter for years) asked me, “why are we bombing Libya?”
            I showed her what Barack said, and she asked, if we are there because Khadafy is killing his own people why are we still doing nothIng in Sudan? Mass killings of both Muslims and Christians continues and yet we still ignore the Sudan. Democrats and Republicans alike ignore the untold thousands (potentially millions) of people murdered/martyred there.

            &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
            So Jimmy ! Did your wife change her mind about this phony !
            Do tell…………………

          • DaveH

            You do complain all the time, Karolyn. Damn, get your mirror out, woman.

          • karolyn

            If you look at my posts, you will find that I do not complain. I comment on others’ posts, state my opinion and try to post positive things.

          • karolyn

            Mick – My priorities are right where they should be, thank you very much.

          • libertytrain

            karolyn you are not always successful about being positive. :)

          • DaveH

            You’re complaining about our complaining, right now on this thread. You have got some heavy blinders on.

          • 45caliber

            Jimmy:

            Definition of a “working vacation”:

            A vacation that requires at least one work moment so you can shove the entire cost off on someone else.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I assure you Karolyn, that Shariah law is not fun, especially for women. You walk down the street, all wrapped up where you cant see, and you accidently bump into a man. Your husband has you killed, because you dishonored him by touching another man. That is the extent of your rights as a woman. And if this doesnt make you want to realize who these people are, and wonder why your democrats on the left fully support them and bow down to them, then God help you woman, because to anyone with eyes and ears that work, they can see them for who and what they are, and can see who supports and defends them. Wake up girl.

    • Marv

      You sir have rolled all the crazy into one nice, neat nut-shell.

    • Jay

      mike b, don’t blame obama, he’s just a little puppet, and like a puppet, he moves, perform and speaks according to his master’s wishes. To blame him for the destructive policies that undermine this country, is to lend him way to much credit.

      • fedupwidit

        my thoughts exactly, Obama does’nt know his rear end from 3rd base! He is taking orders from his blackberry, but still he is aiding and abetting in my book so I say impeach his sorry ass!

        • 45caliber

          I did notice one interesting fact about this whole thing.

          He was willing to take the orders from the UN without any questions about American laws. I don’t believe even Clinton did that.

          • DaveH

            Clinton was in love with anything in a skirt. Obama is in love with himself.

          • Kate8

            Dave H – LOL.

            Yes, and they are both good-time charlies. Nothing they like more than to get down with a good, extravagant party, on our dime.

          • Jay

            UN: unbelievable nonsense. We should stop funding the UN and with the money we save, rebuild the twin towers at ground zero and stick a Confederate flag on it!

          • 45caliber

            Jay:

            I think we should stay in the UN – it’s a great way to collect info on the enemy – but we should also use our veto power on any bill, etc. they come up with that is detrimental to our country. But I also believe we should find an island somewhere and give it to the UN as a headquarters, shutting down the one in New York. Then it would be harder for them to spy on us. And if it sinks, who cares?

          • DaveH

            The longer we stay in the UN, 45, the sooner One World Government will come.

          • Jay

            45caliber,Yes, keep your friends close and your enemy closer. Kicking them out of New York would be a good thing since they are desecrating US soil. As for the island, make it real tiny, with shark infested water all around!

        • Jay

          Flog him first, then impeach him!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        You are correct sir. It is blatantly obvious that this man is no leader, and that he has no leadership skills what so ever. He floats whichever way the wind blows, just like a good democrat, always checking polls to see what they tell him will give him favor with the groups, instead of doing what is right for the country. He reads what his teleprompter says, and is nothing more than the figurehead the democrats have placed there. But he doesnt do the thinking or the planning or none of it, as it is not in him to be a leader. That is clear to see by anyone who looks for the truth. He just doesnt have a whole lot on the ball.

    • spitfire

      Well I hope when it is all over, and 2012 is finally here, that you fellow citizens have the brains to elect anyone but another Democrat.I do however, know that you will try to get another loser into office that we cannot afford.

      • DaveH

        Wishful thinking, Spitfire. But the truth is that we the voters have kept our heads in the sand for over 100 years as the Leaders built the framework for the Big Government takeover of our lives. And now there are so many people sucking on that Government teet that it is going to be an uphill battle. It’s not going to be easy to convince the Greedy trough-feeders that their lives will get worse, not better, under Socialism.
        That’s why I put this link in as often as I can in the hopes that worldwide experience will be enough to wake some of the trough-feeders up to reality (and it isn’t pretty). Waking them up, of course, requires that they take their heads out of the sand long enough to study this website. The reality of Big Government:
        http://heritage.org/index/Ranking

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Mike B:

      We could be shed of Hussein in a matter of weeks if the leadership (and I use that term loosely) in the House would vet Obama, Soetoro, or whatever his name is, and REMOVE him from office.

      Right now the GOP has no one who can beat him in ’12. The current crop is pretty sad. Just a bunch of has-been reruns, many of whom are RINOs.

    • http://none ucsjimj

      Very good summation of the entire mess. You libs out there should hold your nasty comments to yourselves. Anyway we all should be thankful for this freedom we all share. Everyone should remember we are only a pen stroke away from losing everything. Keep the Faith!

  • http://google mike b.

    Hussein Obama is NOT a great leader. He is great at leading us to a economic and military disaster. Carter sure is breathing easier now after seeing how amatuerish and pitiful a leader Hussein Obama. He is a great leader of his minions in the mainstream media, who brain-washed the ignorant, gullable american people, who failed to do their research on this idiots background, and made America’s last and fatal mistake of electing this dangerous man. He is great at leading community organizing of crooks at ACORN, protesters and union Thugs. Hussein Obama is doing a great job of leading this county to HELL!!!

    • Mick

      mike b.

      How so right you are but the Liberals imbeciles are determined to sink our country they’re too dumb to realize that once our freedom and wealth are totally gone they will be in as sad of shape as we conservatives are….We better start to weed out this garden of ours or we will have a very poor crop…………..

      • spitfire

        With the “power of the gun” I hope, and not a rake and a hoe. These new garden gophers are dangerous.

      • 45caliber

        It isn’t so much that the libs want to sink our country – it is that they refuse to admit they made a mistake and try to come up with reasons that will convince themselves that they didn’t make a mistake after all. That’s one reason they always say, “Just wait! He will make things better! Sooner or later! Really! In another six months … or a year … or …”

  • http://none Pat McMahon

    Obama cares less about humanitarian. This is all about more muslim control including our own military. God help us all

    • karolyn

      I’m really curious. Where do you people get this ridiculous info? Since I don’t listen to Rush or any of those jerks, I would assume it’s them? Sheeple.

      • JIBBS

        SO, where are the 400,000 healthcare jobs that lobama nancy promised obamacare would create?

        • spitfire

          You have not paid for them yet!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            And Im not going to either.

      • fedupwidit

        well Karolyn, being out of a job because of these crooked politicians one has plenty of time to study, where does people get this info? The internet for one, that is we can research as much as we can, what he has not paid a team of lawyers to block and hide from the public. Rush Limbaugh, Hannity or any of those turkets molds my way of thinking. I do my own research and I can tell you something about Obama just stinks to the high heavens. His voting records or lack of voting I should say can be found on the internet gov. records, Google his quotes, and you tube his interviews goog god woman, spit out the kool-aid and see for yourself!

        • msmama3

          THANK YOU! People like Karolyn are the reason we are in this mess with this idiot-in-chief they elected without researching his past voting record nor digging into his past BEFORE he became the “Senator from IL” or the “Anointed ONE”! Half of the brain-dead that voted for him still believe he is doing a wonderful job! I’m confused as to what planet they are even living on. It’s certainly not the one where we live. Unemployment higher than it’s ever been with NO hope in sight of it changing. Gas, groceries, utilities skyrocketing and no way to counter the rising prices. Get a grip, Karolyn! Do your own research and quit listening to MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, NPR, Comedy Central nor even FOX to get your viewpoint. Start being an American citizen and become enlightened before you vote for Obama or anybody like him again….PLEASE!

          • karolyn

            Gas has gone down a couple of cents here!

          • Vigilant

            Don’t you know? When gas goes up it’s Bush’s fault. When it goes down it’s to Obama’s credit.

          • 45caliber

            I think the libs are in a bad case of denial. They KNOW they screwed up but don’t want to admit it even to themselves so they desperately hunt reasons to say he is a wonderful President. Some of their reasons can really be hilarious at times.

          • vicki

            karolyn says:
            “Gas has gone down a couple of cents here!”

            Wow….just wow. Gas has gone up over 150 cents and your excited that it came down 2 cents?

          • karolyn

            Vicki – I choose to focus on any good I can find rather than perpetuate and promote the negative.

          • Vicki

            Karolyn there is a good side to all of this. The hypocrisy of the left/liberal/democrat is fully exposed to the world including the sleeping Americans. The accusations and treatment of President Bush over high oil prices and how it was all a collusion between Haliburtn and Bush vs the dead silence over obama and soros and the Brazilian oil company.

            Yes there is good to find if you look.

      • Thamera

        Karolyn: Just a suggestion, maybe you should try and listen to them instead of follow blindly what you hear OTHER people say about them. And btw, I listen to NPR too. Where do we get information? Myself, I am an avid reader and studier of history. I am also well traveled and have taught government, history and literature. I also participate in local government and participate in discussion and discourse with people I agree with and people I disagree with.

        • karolyn

          Well good for you Thamera! We all have our own interests.

          • Thamera

            karolyn: you asked, remember? Where do we get all our information? Just answering your question :)

        • 45caliber

          Tham:

          I got interested in history at an early age. But I prefer to find out what happened vs. what they try to tell you happened. It can sometimes be amazing. It does require a lot of research. My wife and I laugh, but I’ve got more history books – particularly on the Middle Ages – than any library in this are including the college. I like to read anyway – between my wife and me we have over 30,000 books. In fact, we have more room for the books than we do for us!

          • Thamera

            .45 that is incredible. It makes my 300-400 look paltry by comparison! I always look for books and bookshelves when I go into a home and sadly I don’t see a lot of either. I am a strong advocate of reading and am shocked with the illiteracy in our country as well as the almost hatred to pick up a book by some individuals that I have worked with. It makes me wonder if the textbook isn’t to blame! haha.

      • spitfire

        Its called brain power, something you do not possess!

      • Jay

        You should listen to the people you mentioned, perhaps then your comments would carry some weight!

      • Kate8

        karolyn – If you don’t listen to Rush, how do you know he’s a jerk? Because NPR says so?

        Hypocrite.

        • Eddie47d

          How do you know NPR told her so??…..

          • Kate8

            eddie – Check back. It was a question.

            She says she listens to NPR, and they do slam conservative TS hosts.

            But who cares? NPR or some other whacko liberal source…there’s no difference.

        • Karolyn

          I listened to him a couople of times, but he was so so bad, I can’t bring myself to do it again. He just give me the creeps.

          • Kate8

            karolyn – Why? Because he holds people accountable for their actions?

            The truth is, liberals call him names because they disagree with him.
            That’s hardly a discredit to him.

      • vicki

        Silly us. We get it by reading the news. For instance. Barry says no to US drilling oil. To dangerous. A little while later we find that someone has arranged to lend some company in Brazil 2 billion dollars. No big deal other than some evidence barry helped with that or did it with money he controlled.

        Assuming it was really his money there is not much we can say. Yet. Then a little while later barry takes a vacation in Rio (brazil) with his family and advisers. There he promises to help them drill for oil. In the very same waters that he told the US companies not to. He also promises to provide billions of YOUR dollars (mine too) to “help” this one convenient company in Brazil. He ALSO promises that we will be a good customer of their oil. (Using your and my money yet again)

        Poking around we discover that the company has a major stockholder. G.Soros.

        Can you say Hypocrisy. Can you say graft?, corruption?, REAL Crony Capitalism?

        Btw do you still blame President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Haliburton? If they really were guilty they were MUCH better at hiding it.

    • 45caliber

      Pat: You may be right. He made no comments or moves about this until the other Arab nations got on board first.

  • Fly By Night

    Doctors know how to take care of Obama: Make him live within his means.
    :-(

  • Polski

    It’s really hilarious to read you republicans chewing on Obama when you supported the worst president ever, Dubya, for 8 years. I think Obama is a terrible president, but so was Reagan, Nixon, Eisenhower, Bush 1…..you get the picture. I suppose that since this is a republican blog, you get to say all those really hilarious things, that have nothing to do with truth.

    • BigBadJohn

      At least I am not the only one with open eyes.

      Folks on this blog rip on Democrats for spending when Reagan tripled the national debt and George Bush doubled it again.

      As I like to point out, GWB inherited a 100 billion dollar deficit and turned it into a 1.5 trillion dollar deficit. A 1500% increase.
      Obama inherited a 1.5 trillion dollar deficit and turned it into a 1.8 trillion dollar deficit. A 30% increase.

      But I do not agree with Obama, he needs to get serious about his campaign promises or go down in history as another GWB.

      • Mick

        BigBadJohn says:
        March 23, 2011 at 7:58 am
        At least I am not the only one with open eyes.

        Folks on this blog rip on Democrats for spending when Reagan tripled the national debt and George Bush doubled it again.

        As I like to point out, GWB inherited a 100 billion dollar deficit and turned it into a 1.5 trillion dollar deficit. A 1500% increase.
        Obama inherited a 1.5 trillion dollar deficit and turned it into a 1.8 trillion dollar deficit. A 30% increase.

        But I do not agree with Obama, he needs to get serious about his campaign promises or go down in history as another GWB.
        *************************
        BigBadJohn….You’re really into that fuzzy math…

        • Thamera

          The “Big Bad Bush” argument is getting very old! Can we focus on the present?

          • Robin from Arcadia, IN

            Thamera… Bush had issues, as all of the presidents do. But nobody could be worse than Barry. And I still doubt he is American. I have a right to my opinion and that’s what I believe!

          • Jovianus

            When y’all stop blaming Obama for the ills this country has suffered for what the GOP has led us into (beginning with Reagan and ending with Bushii), the we’ll stop naming the true culprits who caused this mess we’re getting out of.

          • vicki

            Jovianus says:
            “When y’all stop blaming Obama for the ills this country has suffered for what the GOP has led us into (beginning with Reagan and ending with Bushii), the we’ll stop naming the true culprits who caused this mess we’re getting out of.”

            You mean these guys?
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

          • vicki
          • Vigilant

            Jovi calls it “this mess we’re getting out of.”

            “Getting out of?” You are truly blind.

        • spitfire

          BigdumbJohn is into that liberal math, that gives you whatever you want whenever.

      • JKO

        Sorry the deficit is now over 3 TRILLION not 1.8. He printed an extra trillion within the first few months in office that we could not back. And recently digitally printed 600,000,000,000 more.
        I do agree that every president in my life time (Eisenhower was prez then) has failed in one way including Regean – my personal favorite. THEY DID NOT CUT SPENDING ON THINGS WE DON’T NEED OR THAT ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
        I have known many many people on both welfare and unemployment who were perfectly capable of getting a job. The attitude is that certain jobs just don’t pay enough. There are always jobs they just don’t all pay $25 an hour.
        My dad was in the USAF for 30 years. I remember as a kid that he would go to work on base and come home to go to work at the corner gas station to make extra money, especially around Christmas.
        Three years ago I had to work 2 jobs and had many days where I worked 12 or more hours. I don’t say this to brag. It’s just that I was raised to believe that as long as I can work I should. I would not even consider welfare or foodstamps.

        I say this because my taxes go to pay for people’s needs and I have known many who took advantage of those taxes. This is not what our founders envisioned for our country. It is programs like welfare, etc that are causing so many problems. They are unconstitutional and actually bad for us.

        I live in a place where government aid abounds and some here don’t even know how to find a job. Others don’t even try. And one more thing – there are more kids here being raised by someone other than a parent that it is not funny. Our government taught them this by dolling out the checks every month.

        • Jovianus

          You realize the frst year in office he was operating under the final Bush budget right? Jeesh …

          • Conservative at Birth

            The Bush budget, as you call it was the Congressional and Senatorial Budget that included the $ 800B Tarp that Obama voted for. You should get the facts straight. If you think that Government spending is good for the economy, I suggest you reasearch what happened during the Hoover (who was a Democrat before he became a Republican) and Roosevelt during the 1930′s, and read what Morgenthau (Secretary of the Treasury) had to say about it. It increased unemployment every time, as it has now and will continue to do every time it is tried. Socialism always fails and leads to Totalitarian rule. Read some history, for Gods Sake.

          • SunnieD

            Are you serious?? Bush was operating under the budget of a DEMOCRATIC house – you know, the Constitutional requirement!

          • Thamera

            So anything Bush may have done wrong gives Obama a pass? Don’t you people have anything new to add to the argument?

          • bbstacker

            Thank you! Congress approves the budget. Bush might have signed it, like Obama signed on for QE1 and QE2, but congress run by the drunken liberals Reid and Pelosi dreamed that insanity into fruition. When Dennis Kucinich is calling for impeachment, you know we are on to something! Congress authorizes war. Obama is so far outside the Constitution that he might as well be sitting over at the UN. Where’s that quote from Zero…oh, here: “… But I do have an unyielding belief that all people yearn for certain things: the ability to speak your mind and have a say in how you are governed; confidence in the rule of law and the equal administration of justice; government that is transparent and doesn’t steal from the people; the freedom to live as you choose. These are not just American ideas; they are human rights. And that is why we will support them everywhere.” Seems that he’s perfectly fine at both lying to our faces AND extending well-wishes to everybody who cannot hold him accountable for fluffy words. Transparency is to Obama as a brick wall is to a window. And, that line about not stealing from the people and the one about freedom to live as you choose is so far over the top for this liar that it defies even the greatest profanity to put it into raging terms. Stunning.

          • DaveH

            Did you Liberals cut George Bush that same slack when he inherited Clinton’s bad economy? Of course not.
            By the way, I was no Bush fan.

          • Eddie47d

            Bush was cut alot of slack and probably too much on the al Qaeda question. Neither Bush or Clinton took al Qaeda seriously.

          • JeffH

            47D says “Neither Bush or Clinton took al Qaeda seriously”. Do you want to qualify that comment a little further? Hmmm, Bush seemed pretty serious to me.

            Bush: Arabs Join with US to Fight Al Qaeda
            http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=4480535

          • vicki

            Jovianus says:
            “You realize the frst year in office he was operating under the final Bush budget right? Jeesh …”

            I trust you have become more educated recently by reading the comments. Bush has no budget. Obama has no budget (in several ways :) ) Budgets are created and voted on by the Congress who are the only ones with the power to spend money.

            Now like all Presidents, Bush put in his request for what the budget should look like but Bush did not create the budget. Congress did. That would just happen to be a DEMOCRAT Congress for the time you speak of. And since obama voted FOR that budget you can say he got what he voted for.

            Time for him (and you) to manup and fix the problem instead of blaming others.

          • JKO

            Jovianus, I’m not referring to what Obama inherited, I’m talking about how he tried to solve the problem. We should have learned from Germany that you don’t just print money with NOTHING TO BACK IT UP.

        • 45caliber

          JKO:

          I agree. I saw a report once that was given the Johnson about Welfare. It was made by some think tank who were asked to determine what could be done to help balance the economy since the military was going to be cut back and draft was to go away. (Back about 1965-66.

          They suggested that welfare be used to take productive workers out of the job market to prevent over-producing. BUT – they also emphasised that this could only be a temporary solution and could not be used for long term needs as people would latch onto it and never get off.

          That is where the government has failed us.

        • bbstacker

          My faux paux…the “thank you” is for JKO.

          • karolyn

            faux pas

      • DaveH

        I can’t (and won’t) defend George Bush (either one), but you are wrong, John, about Reagan. He did his best and considering the Free-Spending Congress that he was saddled with, he did pretty darn good.
        The Democrats were screaming that he was cutting the budget to the bone when all he managed to do was slow the Spending Growth. And RINOs in his own party were telling him that he had to “compromise”, meaning of course to allow spending growth.
        The Democrats controlled the House of Representatives throughout Reagan’s Presidency, and they controlled the entire Congress for his last two years. Reagan vetoed more bills than any previous or following president in my lifetime. If we don’t agree with all the spending, then we need to wake more people up to the fact that the Congress passes the Spending Bills. The best the President can do is veto them but even then the Congress can override the Veto (as happened with 18% of Reagan’s vetoes).
        If Obama has his way, that will change. We will have a President that isn’t accountable to Congress.

      • JC

        BigBadJohn says:
        March 23, 2011 at 7:58 am
        At least I am not the only one with open eyes.

        Folks on this blog rip on Democrats for spending when Reagan tripled the national debt and George Bush doubled it again.

        As I like to point out, GWB inherited a 100 billion dollar deficit and turned it into a 1.5 trillion dollar deficit. A 1500% increase.
        —————————————————————-

        This just in: Reagan is Dead and Bush is no longer in office.
        That you disagree with the Kenyan is commendable…

        • Eddie47d

          Carter is no longer in office yet you keep bringing him up,what gives?

          • DaveH

            He does? When?

          • JC

            Carter who? Did you post in the wrong spot eddie?

    • JIBBS

      SO, are you saying that Carter and cigar dipping clinton were great, out of the last 80 years, the dems had control for well over 40 of those years.

      • 45caliber

        The Dems had control of Congress for over 50 years, regardless of who the President might be. It’s only been in the last few years that people are starting to get concerned about that.

        • Thamera

          THANK YOU for bringing up that most salient point! (.45)

        • DaveH

          Here is a listing of the party in control since 1945:
          http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/l/bl_party_division_2.htm

        • DaveH

          But 45, you are expecting the Liberals to know the role of Congress in our Government. Could it be that you are expecting too much?

          • Vigilant

            Yes, Dave, that would be expecting too much. For them, the Constitution is just a “loose guide,” kind of a recommendation rather than the Law of the Land. Hell, they don’t even know what the Constitution says. They depend on Obama and the 9th Circuit out on the left coast to tell them.

          • 45caliber

            Don’t you know? The law is “living”. It can change depending upon what a judge says it means. Therefore there is NO law except for the one the judge makes at that moment. All the liberals say so.

            Kind of reminds me of ole Judge Colt…

      • Robert S

        Can you tell me what has improved in this country in the last 50 years being run by the Dems or Republicans?

        • DaveH

          Well, the Government Spending has improved (if you count increasing it as an improvement).
          In 1950, Government spent 20% of our Gross Domestic Product. Government now spends 40% of our Gross Domestic Product.
          And I don’t feel one bit safer than I felt in the 1950s. I do feel poorer though, with the exception of the ridiculously cheap electronics and such that are produced for us by those Big Bad Corporations that the Liberals love to attack.

        • Vigilant

          TV reception.

    • Jay

      Polski, don’t you ever get tired of exhuming graves?

    • DaveH

      You suppose wrong, Polski. Many of us are Libertarians, who have just had to endure the long string of Big Government builders that the average person is just starting to see through. Leaders in both the Republican party and the Democrat party have done their best to silence us for obvious reasons. But now we have the Internet to spread our Principled message, and thanks to Rupert Murdoch we have voices on Fox Business Network (John Stossel, and Judge Napolitano’s Freedom Watch).
      We are the only party that has consistently stuck to our Principles of Freedom and Small Government.
      For Individual Liberty, Personal Responsibility, Free Markets, Limited Government, and Peace — Vote Libertarian:
      http://libertarianparty.org/platform

    • Carlucci

      Polski – Who says people on this blog supported Dubya for eight years?
      Who says most of the people on this blog are republicans? I know I sure don’t fall into those categories.

      • Carlucci

        P.S. Long live the Libertarians. They have all the good ideas.

        • JC

          Indeed we do. :)

    • Red

      The truth is an unknown word in the Obama White House. Both bushes are U.S. ctizens, use their own SS cards, graduated from college legally, submitted their pertinent personal records for review, are devout Christians, help those in need, never urged U.S, citizens to riot and attack one another, and are great fathers. No one is certain where this sorry excuse for a human being came from, or why he hates the American people. He is this country’s biggest enemy and, if not stopped before 2012, he may very well destroy our country.

      • JeffH

        Red, I have to question whether the Bush’s were as good as you say?

        Also, Obama isn’t doing it on his own…he has a lot of help. He probably has to get permission to go to the potty.

  • karolyn

    Well, it looks like Khaddafi is on the run now, so this is all a moot point.

    • DaveH

      No, it’s not. If you saw a gun battle and picked one side to take out, what do you suppose would happen to you?
      Murder is not okay just because the gang size is greatly increased.

  • Dave from Ohio

    The headline of this article should not be Obama’s War. It should be “Obama’s Second War”, since the activity in Afghanistan is clearly reflective of Barack H.(I did not include his middle name) Obama’s direction instead of the actions of George W. Bush.

    • BigBadJohn

      Yup After cornering OBL in Afghanistan GWB let him walk away so he could go after the guy who really attacked us – Saddam.

      • JKO

        Paleeeeze.
        Why don’t you mention the fact that Clinton could have taken OBL and would not. And we knew then that he was behind the bombing in 93. And I have heard the tape that proves it.
        We both have the right to have an opinion, just get out ALL the facts.
        And I did criticise Bush for going into Iraq as did many on the right.

        • Jovianus

          1. Clinton tried. Several times. And please don’t try to say Sudan was ready to trade OBL away…that’s such a crock of BS it isn’t worth taking about anymore. There was no deal available nor one which was trustworthy.

          2. Remember the screams of ‘wag the dog” and “aspirin factory’ when Clnton did go after OBL as well as take out the al Qaeda chemical factory in….tadaaa …the Sudan? (now really, you think the Sudan was honestly going to trade away OBL )

          3. You heard the tapes. Yep…no doubt they were real.

          4. 9/11 occurred because we had a screw up of a president…BushII

          • JIBBS

            Dam, you know everything, and are never wrong….

          • Rob D

            “9/11 occurred because we had a screw up of a president…BushII”

            Really, i thought it was Clinton and his indecisiveness about capturing OBL that brought on 9/11. The half hearted attempts, passing up offers to turn him over. I am such a fool, NOT!

          • msmama3

            With Bush only being in office for approximately 9 months when 9/11 happened, that was DEFINITELY on Clinton! He was the indecisive President with the bombing of the USS Cole, the embassy bombings, the WTC bombing & the list can go on & on. The terrorists knew Clinton was NOT going to retaliate for anything they did to us overseas, so they pulled off 9/11. THANK GOD WE HAD GEORGE W BUSH as a TRUE LEADER for that time. If Hillary or God forbid, Obama, had been on watch, we probably would have been invaded by now!

          • 45caliber

            Clinton tried? Several times? LOL!!!

          • DaveH

            Come on people. Go easy on Jovianus. Don’t you know that Liberals have a license to spread unsupported and fabricated facts?

          • Vigilant

            Ah, the liberal mindset! Bush is in office a little over seven months, after Clinton allows OBL to get away unscathed, and 9/11 is Bush’s fault. Yet, Obama’s been in over 2 years, and the economy is….Bush’s fault!

          • Vigilant

            Jovi revises history: “Remember the screams of ‘wag the dog” and “aspirin factory’ when Clnton did go after OBL as well as take out the al Qaeda chemical factory in….tadaaa …the Sudan? (now really, you think the Sudan was honestly going to trade away OBL )”

            “Wag the dog” came about as a result of Kosovo, idiot, NOT the Sudan bombing. Moreover, your comment is pure leftist speculation concerning Sudan’s offer. Had you a non-revisionist bone in your body, you’d understand that the important thing was that Sudan made the offer AND CLINTON TURNED THEM DOWN. The “seriousness” of the offer is/was not the point, and no one in the world, save you, have contended that Sudan’s offer was spurious.

  • Homer

    Want to know the “REAL” Obama? Get the BIRTH CERTIFICATE! You will find that this is a Muslim born in Kenya, and raised in Indonesia and has told people what they want to hear just to get in a palce where he does NOT belong and is not legal!!! People should have seen this coming! I ID!! Now this man drags this country into a war we have no business being in!! This is an IMPEACHABLE Offense! CONGRESS “ONLY” has the power to make and declare war! NOT the (acting) president!!

    • karolyn

      ARE WE TIRED OF HEARING THIS MANTRA OVER AND OVER – YES! YES! YES! Voicing this opinion ad infinitum does nothing but promote more unrest!

      • Jay

        And the MANTRA will end when he produces his birth certificate!!!

        • spitfire

          Yes, because it would prove what most of us believe, that he is illegal, and would need to go.

        • DaveH
          • DaveH

            Keep in mind that Donald is a Big Government sycophant.

          • DaveH

            This video is a great study in Liberal debating methods.

        • JC

          Exactly right Jay…it should be on billboards across the country.
          On the Interstates and Hi-Rises everywhere…
          “Where is the Birth Certificate?”

          • Kate8

            JC – There are quite a few billboards that say just that, where the billboard owners will allow it.

            Many of them won’t.

            Do you read WND? They are the ones doing it.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            JC:

            Where’s the birth Certificate? In Kenya, of course.

          • JC

            Henry, I’ve seen photographs of signs on Kenyan Highways that say; “Welcome to Kenya, Birthplace of Barack Obama”
            They’re proud of their boy and rightfully so. How often does an African village idiot become a POTUS?

      • JIBBS

        So, where is the correct bc, he did not provide it, and what he did provide won’t get you a drivers lic. What the heck is he hiding that he has to lock down all his info. Hell, background check’s for a job show more than lobama did. I’d realy like to know who he is, using the same background checks that all Americans go thru to get employment. Come on Karolyn, your so smart, you must know something, it really piss’s me off to see someone run there mouth, and say nothing. It’s so simple a caveman can go thru a background check. That bc from factcheck is not the correct type of bc, you and the rest of you leftee’s know it, but don’t have the stones to admit it, the the man can’t be a legal(Pres.) You wish to think so, but according to the Constituion he can’t, until all his info. is verifyed. Sorry, but thats the hard cold facts, and sometime’s the truth and facts hurt…too bad

        • Jay

          It seems reasonable to assume, that he could end all the controversy regarding citizenship status, by SiMPLY producing the proof! He’s an impostor, masquerader, pretender, imitator, deceiver, hoaxer, trickster, fraudster, swindler; a fake, a fraud, a sham, a phony, and a scammer to boot!!!

      • Thamera

        Karolyn: for me, it is not so much his failure to produce a birth certificate, as it is his arrogance that somehow excludes him from having to produce a document that every, other single American is required to have and produce if necessary for much less, like getting a driver’s license and only further illustrates his “elitism.” A birth certificate should not be shrouded in mystery and should be easily and willingly produced. After all, aren’t the REST of us expected to do so when required? I think so!!!!

        • DaveH

          The same goes for the Federal Reserve. We are letting people who have tremendous power over our lives get away with Opacity! It’s time to stop it.

        • Carlucci

          I agree. What bothers me most is that B.O. just seemed to come out of nowhere, like a phantom fart…

      • bbstacker

        unrest because of what? the TRUTH? I got one for you then: “The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth.”
        -H.L. Mencken

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Yes, Karolyn old news is tiresome. I feel the same way everytime President Bush is mentioned.

        • Eddie47d

          …or Carter.

    • Marv

      You sir…need to get a grip.

    • Rob D

      The fact is that he has not produced a BC for one of two reasons.

      1. He is NOT a legal citizen of the US of A, or
      2. He is using it as a distraction to keep people off the real issues.

      Either way, he is a master manipulator and liar that needs to be removed from office, jusy like a majority of our congressional members, both dems and repubs.

      • Rob D

        Especially Harry ‘cheat to win’ Reid and Nancy ‘stretch’ Polosi.

      • Kate8

        Rob D – Someone should do DNA testing, as well. We don’t even know for certain his parentage. He could be anyone.

        Stanley Dunham was in Kenya prior to “giving birth” and heading for HI. The people in his life have been avowed communists, and mostly Muslim. His “parents” ditched him after he was born, and left him to be raised by “grandparents”. They must have had great parental instincts.

        So he says. I think he’s hiding a great deal.

    • Kinetic1

      Homor,
      The number of constitutional experts on this site is amazing. Am I to assume that 90% of those posting here have a law degree? Of course I’m being facetious since most if not all of the claims of unconstitutional acts on this site are likely wrong. Take the war powers act that is getting so much press these days: The United States has been involved in over 260 major military actions since 1776, but only five of them are because of a declaration of war. Yep, only 5. As noted on one site “Practically all of the founders were still alive when Thomas Jefferson deployed Naval forces against the Barbary pirates without a declaration of war.” I don’t recall any calls for impeachment then. And with the War Powers Act of 1973, the actions of our current President are even less in question.

      So, is the War Powers Act unconstitutional? It has yet to be tested, but this could be the time. Republicans are so quick to attack anything Obama does that it would not seem all that strange that, after 38 years and numerous military actions they would challenge this President like none before. On the other hand, if Congress overturns the act, then they will have to take full responsibility for any future military actions, and that is just not something they want to do.

    • msmama3

      It’s not only the birth certificate. He also doesn’t have a valid legal Social Security number, in fact he has several! Why isn’t this being investigated? What happens when one of us regular citizens get caught with more than one Social Security number, ask several thousand sitting in jail for Identity Theft! Plus there are all the other “frozen” records hiding everything about his past. I know there have GOT to be some REAL journalists out there that could dig up all this. I know for a fact that one Attorney, Dr. Orly Taitz has been investigating & she is hitting brick walls everywhere she tries. Plus she now has lawsuits to fight being brought against her trying to destroy her financially so she will give up. There’s not much this administration won’t do to hide exactly who this impostor is!

  • louie

    Get rid of Barack Hussein Obama…..

  • Homer

    HOW is this Obamas war? He is NOT authorized by anyone to make or declare war!! He is NOT a king, and the U.S.Forces are NOT his to do what he wants as he wants!!! STOP THIS MAN!!!

    • spitfire

      He could have said NO to the U.N., we will not participate. Other countries did.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Spitfire.. He could have stayed home instead of running off on yet another jaunt out of the country and do his job! Congress is in this loop and he didn’t bother to go to them.

        • karolyn

          The trip to Brazil had been planned for some time.

          • Robin from Arcadia, IN

            So Karolyn, are you saying that he couldn’t postpone it, even for an unbalanced budget crisis where Washington is on the verge of shutting down, or a new ‘military encounter in the middle east’?

          • Kate8

            karolyn – It’s the same excuse he uses EVERY time he leaves during a crisis. It’s wearing thin, and stretches credibility.

            It goes to show where his priorities lie.

          • Eddie47d

            Nixon went to China while the Vietnam War raged.Stop acting like it is so unusual, for it is not.

          • Kate8

            eddie – NO president has gone on vacation at the outset of EVERY crisis.

            Stop excusing him. He’s whooping it up as he’s sending our youth off to their deaths.

    • DaveH

      This should be a wake-up call to even the most ignorant Liberals. This man is a loose cannon and a huge threat to our way of life. It’s time for Impeachment.

  • bob wire

    “Yet with Libya, the President is using the same logic and rhetoric as George W. Bush used during the U.S. war against Iraq that began nine years earlier to the day.”

    That is at the very most a half truth.

    “O’ is a pragmatic as I have said personally and you have been told by other, leaving it safe to say that “you” don’t know you “O” is.

    • JIBBS

      Bush went to congress.

      • CurtisS

        Yes, Bush went to Congress… something about weapons of mass destruction wasn’t it? Have you found those WMDs yet? Maybe if Obama sent Hillary to the UN with a lie, kind of like Colin Powell’s use of “faulty intelligence” you’d be okay with this?

        • DaveH

          Since when do two wrongs make a right?

        • Robin from Arcadia, IN

          CurtisS… You are not comparing apples to apples here. Regardless of what you can drag up about President Bush, Barry did not go through Congress with his decision… Bush did.

          • Eddie47d

            Oh,so if Obama went to Congress and lied like Bush did then it would be okay? You need a better line Robin.

          • Kate8

            eddie – Now, that’s a hoot.

            Maybe Bush was misinformed about the WMDs, maybe not, but the leading dems believed it as well. Did they all lie, too?

            One would have a harder time finding something that Obama HASN’T lied about. If his lips are moving…

  • John R. Harbison

    Well I’ll tell You I have been around a long time. Been in international sale for well over fourty years and have delt with ever walk of life. I don’t care if he’s a Demo or Rep. there is something Way Wrong With this Pres. Obama cat.

    • Cribster

      Indeed!

      It’s as though his entire being is contrived, there is nothing real about him, he is a non-person. You can hear it in the tamber of his voice and see it in the way he walks not to mention his disasterous poilicies based on everything but reality!

      The frat boy is the epitome of “progressive” indoctrination.

  • http://Safari John Flath

    Excuse me. did I just hear that George bush brought us to war in Iraq that was just?
    This statement sounds like it came out of the mouth of the devil. A 100% lie.
    George bush was a DESERTER in the military and he is one spoiled brat. He is demonic and so is Obama.
    Obama is taking over where bush left off.
    The US will fail very soon and its people will become very poor. It is bankrupt and morally in despair.
    Its people call evil good and they call good evil. They are a divided nation and it will soon collapse.
    It is solid fact. The international bankers rule this country and American have no say.
    The elections are all fraud and controlled by the magic diabold voting machines and the judges are in their pockets too.
    Its over people. Get ready for Hell to come to the US. America is now a defeated nation.

    • karolyn

      Why are you so hell-bent on making your prophecies come true by voicing them over and over. The more you speak of the demise of this country, the more it stands a chance of really happening. That is why it is incumbent upon those of us of a more positive mind to speak even louder about how this country will prevail; and you naysayers will be drowned out.

      • Marv

        The “End Timers” just love this stuff. Fits their world view.

      • bbstacker

        working both sides of the street, are you? Nah, can’t have it both ways. Politicians are driving this Constitutional Republic into the abyss, whether you agree with “us” or “them”, we are all sinking in the same bloody canoe. We hang together or we hang separately, but we’ll all hang unless we figure this out, get back to the Constitution, hold these vermin accountable, and put people in government in limited roles who do the Constitutional necessities and LEAVE US ALONE

        • 45caliber

          I agree with you completely.

      • DaveH

        A positive mind? More like positively Naive.

    • 45caliber

      Bush was a deserter? LOL. You should check your sources. In fact, you should notice that Dan Rather isn’t around any more due to the FACT that he broadcast lies about that.

      • Kinetic1

        45,
        Maybe you should check YOUR facts before spouting off. Rather got a raw deal. While it’s true that the memo he reported on turned out to be a fake, many of the allegations in the memo have be substantiated. The allegations were that Bush did not serve his full time and received “special favors.” In 1974 the Boston Globe did the research and found that “Bush fell well short of meeting his military obligation” and that “The documents Bush signed only add to evidence that the future president — then the son of Houston’s congressman — received favorable treatment when he joined the Guard”

        “Twice during his Guard service — first when he joined in May 1968, and again before he transferred out of his unit in mid-1973 to attend Harvard Business School — Bush signed documents pledging to meet training commitments or face a punitive call-up to active duty.

        He didn’t meet the commitments, or face the punishment, the records show. The 1973 document has been overlooked in news media accounts. The 1968 document has received scant notice.”

        “The reexamination of Bush’s records by the Globe, along with interviews with military specialists who have reviewed regulations from that era, show that Bush’s attendance at required training drills was so irregular that his superiors could have disciplined him or ordered him to active duty in 1972, 1973, or 1974. But they did neither. In fact, Bush’s unit certified in late 1973 that his service had been ”satisfactory” — just four months after Bush’s commanding officer wrote that Bush had not been seen at his unit for the previous 12 months.”

        So yes, Rather was forced to step down for mistakenly promoting a fake document as proof of Bush’s failure to serve, but only the document was fake. The facts that back it up were available from many other sources.

        • DaveH

          Blah, Blah, Blah. Bush is bad. So what? Does that somehow exonerate Obama from evil doings?
          Try using that faulty logic in court. But your honor, George has killed people too!

          • Eddie47d

            Oh yes Dave; Liberals are bad and Conservatives are good.Try using that in court when defending all the Conservative screw ups. But your Honor, they were not real Conservatives! Think that will pass muster?

          • Kate8

            How about this, eddie: “But Your Honor…we’re liberals! Truth and honor don’t figure into our ideology. We go by “any means to an end”.

          • Kinetic1

            DaveH,
            Note that I was responding to 45′s claim that Bush served honorably based on Dan Rather’s ousting. I didn’t say anything about exonerating Obama, just that 45′s recommendation that you “check your sources” was hypocritical.

          • JeffH

            47D, maybe you could provide some of the conservatives blunders?
            I just can’t seem to recall any conservatives running our government and making decisions.

    • Ellen1

      John Flath: they just can’t see it. No amount of discussion or proof will make it understandable for these people. They’re well-meaning but entirely misled.

      • karolyn

        Ditto in answer

      • DaveH

        Perhaps you two could enlighten us?

        • JC

          Actually dave, for a change Flath makes a couple of valid observations.
          Thing is, all the Liberal policies and Obama himself are doing nothing but exasperating the problem.
          A return to a Constitutional Republic and abolishment of the falsely named Federal Reserve are the place to start.
          Liberals and too many Republicans just don’t get that.

  • http://getgrassfedwheyprotein.com James_s

    So you either criticize him for inaction or you criticize him for committing military forces like a neocon warmonger or liberal do-gooder. Which is it?

    • Jay

      Both!!!

  • pennsyltuckian

    Y’all just figuring out that Ovomit can’t decide what socks to wear without help from his kids. This PoS is the worst thing this country has ever seen. He has no standards, no back bone, can’t make a decision on anything besides the basketball tournament and is wasting amazing amounts of money on nothing. He has given control of the country over to a bunch of socialist loons like Pelosi, Reid, etc. and just signs what they tell him to. At least Jimmy Carter had standards and is now only the 2nd worst president in the history of the US thanks to Obumbler.

    • 45caliber

      Come to think of it, I wonder what a DNA test would show about him and his kids … He seems too shallow to be able to produce kids ….

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        45… Odd you would bring that up. I wondered, too. Could it be possible that Soros equipped him with a ready made family? It could happen.

        • Eddie47d

          Double swill at one time. Imagine that!

        • Kate8

          Especially when you consider the outing of gay lovers, and his affinity for gay bath houses.

      • JC

        It would show that he is the illegitimate son of King KameaMea and Amelia Earhart…and we have a Certificate of Live Birth to prove It! LOL

  • http://aol.com sean murrey

    another reason for impeachmenthe is a fraud, commie muslim and he stinks as a so called leader.

  • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

    Obama is a community organizer, nothing more. He is incapable of leading. His inaction was simply his vote of “Present”. It also could be that Soros was on vacation, or possibly the teleprompter was broken.

    The brain-dead electorate is getting EXACTLY what they deserve. The sad part is that we smart, informed, thinking Americans must suffer because of the idiots in this country that are allowed to vote.

    If we ever get this country back on track we need to round up all Obama voters / supporters and ship them to Africa, Cuba, China and any other sh*t-hole country that these morons seem to admire so.

    • karolyn

      Old Henry – Don’t you think this would be an awfully boring country/world if we all thought the same? Sounds like communism to me.

      • Marv

        It’s only Communism when the Dems do it…when the GOP does it is is Patriotism!

        • Carlucci

          I disagree. It is communism BECAUSE of both parties. There is really no difference between the two.

          • 45caliber

            Very Little.

          • Jay

            Well said, Carlucci! The house is completely rat infested!

      • Mike in MI

        karolyn -
        Then get ready for “an awfully boring world”. When the Stink ‘Bama gets done with his plans he’ll set his compatriots under the crescent moon loose on whoever is left and they will saw off the tongues of everybody who doesn’t think like them…at shoulder level. Then throw them all in one pile. Thus…everyone, karolyn included, will be coerced to think mohammed thoughts and they’ll like it…no “or not” accepted.)

        • Kate8

          Obama, SEIU et al, have ADMITTED that a one-party system is their goal.

          We are very, very close to that now.

          • JeffH

            Kate8, here’s the latest news on the SEIU.

            Former SEIU Union Official Exposes Plot to Collapse U.S. Economy
            Former SEIU banking and finance boss Stephen Lerner was allegedly caught on tape during a March 19 forum describing a union-led plot to “destabilize” the country, bring down capitalism, crash the stock market and destroy the American economy for the purpose of redistributing wealth.

            “Students would also be encouraged not to pay back their estimated $1 trillion in student-loan debt. And government-employee union members should go on strike unless governments agree to coerce banks into accepting new terms. Finally, the recent “disruption” in Madison must spread to Wall Street and cities across America, Lerner suggested.
            http://thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/crime/6808-former-union-official-exposes-plot-to-collapse-us-economy

          • Kate8

            JeffH – I just happened to have a chance to watch Glenn Beck these past 2 days, talking about this very thing. I guess it’s creating a bit of a stir.

            BTW, I read where Beck may be thinking of leaving Fox and having his own outlet.

        • karolyn

          It just amazes me that there are so many psychic conservatives seeing the future! Won’t your face be red when it doesn’t come to pass!

          • Kate8

            karolyn – I hope with all my heart that things DO get better. I’ll be the first to rejoice at being wrong.

            The direction things are going is just not looking promising. If these people in control are not stopped, it will be YOU with the red face. But by then it won’t matter, as we’ll all be in the same boat.

          • DaveH

            What amazes me, Karolyn, is that you are sticking up for a man who is using our armed forces to attack a country that has not attacked us and is in no way a threat to us. He is killing people to support others whose motives we have no knowledge of.

      • spitfire

        What part of Black do you not understand????????????

      • bbstacker

        You should spend a few minutes reading some history. Just the 20 years leading up to April 19, 1775 might be a nice start. Every Colonial American, a British subject no less, didn’t stand up and fight that day, it was a three-way split, where 33% were willing to give up everything for posterity. Do you know what that means. This transcends anything that this potus or any single potus can lay claim to; I doubt many give a damn about posterity or what the Founding Fathers, God rest their souls, intended to hand to us. This finest of experiments has never been successfully created on Earth, and will likely never be again, because the Divine Intervention required to have brought all the components together on this continent only happen once in human history. If you knew and understood the blood and treasure sacrificed to allow us to have this “debate” over an insignificant human, who unfortunately is sitting at the desk of this Constitutional Republic, you would honor the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and know in your heart that anyone who so much as touches the Liberty of the people is in contempt.

      • JC

        Good Point Karolyn…and a very good reason to keep cultures seperate and distinct….each to his own country. That way the world will still have many flavors rather than be one big, beige, globalist, taxpaying herd of sheep.

        • Jay

          JC, that happens to be her favourite flavour!

          • JC

            Beige or Sheep? :)

          • Jay

            Sheep that go out on a friday night and paint the town beige.

          • JC

            hahaha “snork” hahaha
            Too funny!

    • Mick

      Old Henry says:
      March 23, 2011 at 8:17 am

      The brain-dead electorate is getting EXACTLY what they deserve. The sad part is that we smart, informed, thinking Americans must suffer because of the idiots in this country that are allowed to vote.

      *************************************

      Old Henry,,,,,,You’re right, the liberals don’t have the intelligence to realize that it will come back to bite them in the a$$ and do not see that their kids are going to pay a dear price for their stupidity….

      • 45caliber

        Ah, but they won’t be around when that happens so who cares? At least they hope so. So the kids/grandkids suffer … they have theirs.

        • spitfire

          However 45 I do not think it will take that long to come around, as some already is.

        • Kate8

          45 – How many times have we heard, “Oh, it won’t happen in OUR lifetime”.

          As if that makes it no concern.

          Only it IS happening. Now.

          • 45caliber

            I agree. And I’m worried about my children and grandchildren.

  • EN400

    As a member of the military, now in my 39th year, I have never been so worried for it and my country. I knew he’d eventually play the military card, he’s already played the race card. God help us.

    • 45caliber

      Agreed. He’s getting desperate about next year. He has to show leadership someway. He just chose this one.

  • Raggs

    Is there any doubt that Q-daffy is currently gathering islamic extremist against the US?
    I’m sure even as dumb as obama is he knows that as well.

  • Al Sieber

    This man sure don’t deserve the Nobel peace prize, all he’s done is lie about everything.

  • Abdulrasheed

    We are surprised that people are still criticizing Obama for taking part in the Libya War. I don’t actually understand what people want. Should the whole United Nations allow Gadaffi to wipe out the entire eastern part of Libya together with Mustaraf. Just look at the number of casualties within the weeks Gadaffi started launching maven on his citizen under the pretext that he can rule them for ever. Imagine allowing one person to rule the United States of America for forty two years, how will the writer of this article feel. You don’t know exactly what the African are going through and we don’t pray that you guys fall into the hand of tyrants like Banangida and Abacha in Nigeria, Gadaffi in Libya, Paul Biya in Cameron, and so many other leaders who don’t have consideration for their citizens.

    • karolyn

      Than you, Abdul.

    • Jay

      You are wrong, Abdulrasheed, first, the instigators were sent in to stir up the people. When it reached crisis level, the instigators came to the rescue. Can’t you see that?

      • karolyn

        And you know this how???

        • bbstacker

          start digging…look up “seiu” and muslim brotherhood/hamas. The red pill or the blue pill. The web is a million times more informative that beck/hannity/limbaugh/donald duck/ or your mama. Search!

        • Kate8

          geeze, karolyn. If you ever did a little research on the plans and protocols of socialist/communist takeovers, it’s all written out, step by step.

          There exist many videos of people like Soros, Pivvens, Van Jones and many others, speaking these very moves and machinations in their own words.

          You have the political understanding of someone in grade-school. It’s fine if you choose not to learn about the world, the PTB and how they operate, but your naive comments are embarrassing.

          • Karolyn

            I don’t give a crap where it’s written. There is still no proof that this machinations are taking place. It’s all conjecture, and that is what’s dividing us.

          • Jay

            Kate8, have you noticed, every time Karolyn hears the truth, her temperature goes up?

    • DaveH

      That is exactly what we’re trying to prevent here Abdulrasheed, Tyranny.
      Our Constitution forbids us from going to war unless approved by Congress. Even the War Powers Act (which is Unconstitutional) does not allow military action against a non-attacking country without the approval of Congress.
      So the president is acting outside our laws.

    • JC

      I’m a little confused as to what you are tring to say Abdulrasheed.
      perhaps it’s a translation thing. You say you “don’t” pray for us…
      Ok that’s about what I expect from the Muslim world but the word “don’t” doesn’t seem to belong in the sentence.
      And I have to ask….we already know how the Muslim world sees us as the Great Satan and a nation of Infidels who must die…
      So why should we be involved in a conflict where both sides hate us?
      Just who are we supposed to be backing here? certainly not the dictator, but why anyone else, anyone at all…after all we’re Infidels, why would you want our help?

      • JC

        PS Abdul…if you guys need any guns, call BATFE.

  • JKO

    I just want to point out one thing that ya’ll seem to have forgotten. When Papa Bush left Iraq there was this little thing called a treaty that was signed by Saddam. Almost everyday after that he, Saddam broke the treaty. All through Clinton’s “reign” this was going on. I have a family member that went to Bagdad in the late 90′s and saw a nuclear warhead ( he was in the Air Force).Saddam was not to have these. So all Bush was doing was enforcing the treaty – which the UN refused to do.
    Now we can discuss whether this was the time, right thing, etc. But we did have the right to go into Iraq.
    And I will agree that Bush may have had an alterior motive – I can’t read minds.
    We do not have a treaty with Libya that I am aware of, so I don’t think the same can be said about Obama. And for him there does seem to be an alterior motive.

    • JR

      What he actually saw a “nuclear warhead”? Roflmao, thanks I needed that laugh on this dreary snowy morning.
      Of all the lies and rumor spread by the right this takes the cake. You probably also call yourself a conservative christian …never mind the lies you propagating….or do you believe just because its the internet it does not count as a lie? People like you are the reason the rest of the world thinks the American right is full of cooks.

      • Conservative at Birth

        What exactly is the American Right cooking?

        • Thamera

          haha good question conservative…bet we won’t get an answer.

          • Thamera

            Actually I was baking cookies! haha…chocolate chip :D

        • Jay

          LOL!!!

          • Kate8

            Jay – We’re a bunch of cooks! Oh the pain…my sides hurt.

            Must go check the oven. Got…COOKies!

            Actually, I come from a whole family of cooks!

            LMAO!!!!!

      • JKO

        JR it was my brother – in – law who was an USAF officer. He was there in the Clinton years with the UN peace keepers. They would go to check machines that would go off if Saddam released gas into the atmoshere. He has a PhD in polimer chemistry and his specific job was to find antedotes for gases like that.
        That was not even the scarey part. At that time they were ahead of us in forming these gases by a long way.And when he reported this info to his superior officers, nothing ever came of it.
        SOOOOO stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
        I believe very little of what I read on the internet. I have too many things to be untrue.
        You know the right does not consist of a bunch of mind numbed robots. Most of us think for ourselves. I have noticed that the talking points from one lefty to the next can be exactly the same. On the right, while the story may be the same, at least the words coming out of the mouths of those speaking are not verbatim.

    • 45caliber

      One of the biggest laughs I got about Saddam was the oil. He was supposed to ship only a certain amount and that was all. However, there was a pipeline that ran to Beruit. Some reporter checked the tankers being loaded with Iraqi oil that were going to France and Germany. Both countries were getting more oil that Saddam was supposed to sell TOTAL. That was one of the reasons the both countries were so upset about Bush going in – they were getting their oil at a greatly reduced price to provide Saddam with extra cash. But the UN was careful, right?

      The libs keep insisting that Saddam had NO WMD’s and therefore Bush had no reason to go in. However, there were satellite photos of a huge convoy of trucks loaded with missiles going into Syria less than two weeks before we invaded. There were also some buried rockets found – I had a friend in the military who saw those. But you won’t convince any of the libs about that. They have their minds made up and don’t want to be confused with facts.

    • bbstacker

      Most people will never have this insight. Just the experience of life that will never afford many the perspective of another culture or mindset. The middle east is tribal–always has been and always will be. They have no definition of democracy, and we are not a democracy in the United States of America; we are a Constitutional Republic. The more the clock ticks, the more I’m open to the idea that government has duped us into these alleged conflicts, for whatever reason. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPnT6B5HpkA
      Isn’t a part of the communist idea, and this was linked to Woodrow Wilson and his progressives in the ’30′, to “give them useless things to do”?

  • Bert Cundle

    Why anyone would want to be President of U.S.of A. Puzzles me! Must be an egotistical thing…

    • 45caliber

      That’s why we have so many bad Presidents getting in. The honest, hard-working people have no interest in the job.

      • Thamera

        No doubt .45. I have not been happy with our selection of candidates for the presidency in quite some time now. I have been hearing positive rumblings about Huntsman (sp?) out of Utah though. Know anything about him?

        • 45caliber

          No, I don’t.

          • Kate8

            45 – Let’s just hope that we can come up with a …COOK!

    • JC

      Makes you wonder why anyone would spend 10 million of their own dollars to get a 4 to 8 year job that pays a 1/2 mil a year?
      Must have one hell of a Dental Plan.

  • Rennie

    I was once asked (before they were elected) if I thought Obama/Biden would crack down on Iran and stop their nuclear weapons and ICBM production lines, and I said then I thought they would be more likely to bomb Isreal. I had no idea that they would be helping Iran create a Shia empire stretching to the Atlantic, (at the cost of our alliances in the region), or that we would be helping the very people takeover Libya who have been killing our troops in Iraq. I guess you could say they have surpassed my expectations.

  • SteveB

    From Obama’s Cairo speech…..”Each nation gives life to this principle in its own way, GROUNDED IN THE TRADITIONS OF ITS OWN PEOPLE”…..What about the traditions that gave life to “this country”? What about the laws…and beliefs…and traditions that took us from thirteen tiny colonies to the greatest nation in the world? What about those Christian values that made us care about our neighbors and other struggling people all over the world…enough to share our resources and rescue them from disasters…and give our lives so that they might be free?
    That a president of The United States Of America would make a statement like that to a crowd of Muslims…who could care less about our welfare….or the welfare of the world is just plain redundant.
    “Show me, Mr. President, how the world is so much a better place because of those Arab traditions….and,if America is not a Christian nation…what has been our caring,giving motivation to the rest of the world. If Cairo is such a pleasant place….filled with so much valuable tradition…why don’t you move there…and stay there…and be their President? Apparently, you are more comfortable defending their values and traditions than ours!

    • 45caliber

      The only thing that I’m aware that the Arabs gave the world was algebra – and I suspect a lot of school children have regretted that.

      It was once pointed out (by Louis L’amour) that it is a mark of stature in that part of the world to own a library. Many families have scrolls that date over a thousand years. However, it is NOT a mark of stature to be able to read them. He stated that over 90% of what they have hasn’t been read in centuries – and they won’t allow anyone to try to read them today for fear of learning that many of their stories are false.

      • Thamera

        most interesting

  • jopa

    Are you people not paying attention.This is not a war this is an odyssey.There hasn’t been a war declared by the United States since WW11.If our President didn’t act swiftly like he did there would have been a massacre of tens of thousands and he didn’t have time to gather congress together.I think there still celebrating New Years or on spring break like a college kid.If all those people would have died what would the headline be today.I don’t like the odysseys, police actions,skirmishes,and conflicts but I think this may have been the right move.Bush seniors I also supported.

    • 45caliber

      He acted “swiftly”?????

      Where did you get that idea? He sat on it for weeks and acted only after France and Britian did!

      • bob wire

        Correct, “O” waited for the international community, but not the US congress at the disappointment of many.

        I’m sure it was a hard call and time was not in these opposing forces favor as the window to act was rapidly closing as things were in motion.

    • Jay

      jopa, you crazy fool, stop drinking your bathwater!!! LOL!

  • jopa

    JKO: When you say a member of your family saw a nuclear warhead in Iraq that should make Rick Santorum happy.He also was about the only person that said they found WMD in Iraq.If one of my family members said that I wouldn’t tell anyone but I would watch him closely.

  • Dan

    If Kaddafi goes away, who will take his place? Will the hundreds of millions of dollars spent on this Libyan excursion which we don’t have, have been wasted? What’s to keep an even more dangerous anti-American nut-case from taking over? Is there any kind of end-game strategy here, or is this just a belated knee-jerk reaction?
    If this were truly a humanitarian mission meant only to shield civilians from a murderous dictator, what about Rwanda, Sudan, Yemen, Bahrain, etc.,etc.? Finally, just as in Afghanistan, there is no clear definition of victory. Incompetence and fecklessness seems to be the order of the day.

    • spitfire

      Good post. The middle east and the barbarians within, are a total waste of time.

    • bbstacker

      Maybe…maybe this is the “game”. Put in another even more stupid and ruthless monkey to give us something to pound on with more of our fiat money stolen from the Citizens to keep us occupied watching the Mindless Stupid Morons bleating on the flat screen about terrorists that absolutely must be defeated. Maybe we are all being scammed by our tyrannical gov’t. Maybe this is all just another new flavor of kook-aid intended to distract the Citizens from the immediate issues of our OWN Republic here at home. When was the last time you wrote YOUR reps @ the local/state/fed level? Still, this threaded debate has been engaging! Woo Hoo!

  • http://personalliberty Confoundmeoncebut nottwotimes

    Most electorates are Led To Believe what is NOT True ( to the bensfit of The Few )…And hasn`t that been the way of ”this Demonic Democratic way of Government since Washington cut down the cherry tree ? Come on, folks ..Stop hasseling one another and let`s find a workable solution to this critical position we are experiencing on a daily and on-going basis. Insist ”Our Congress members either ‘ get off the pot’, or else make an attempt to Aim in the proper direction…( Which is Right here in This country. ) Allow the middle east to do what they do best..making war between themselves. and stop providing Both Sides an endless supply of ammo to continue..and to stop instigating. Can’t this country survive without the “War Business?’ Where have our morales and sense of justice gone ? We Do Definitely need a Congress that Does the job it was Elected ( And we pay them ) to do..and that is..to Stop its’ constant squabbling about who gets to sit on First and who sits on Second…and so on . What kind of leadership is THAT ?? Since when is Declaration of war against Any Country A ONE-Man Decision ?? What are we, Anyway ? People, it is our tax dollars “These war-mongers ‘ are throwing down the drain . Isn`t it time for Change ? And I don`t mean the “”kind of Change B.Obama obviously meant. Endless War is Not my idea of Democracy. Is it Yours ? There has been a lot of good points ‘voiced’ here…from all sides. So.. lets` get our ‘ducks in one row’ and find a solution to aim for..and collectively, Go for it . We could all benefit from That kind of action . Is it possible ?

  • momplayer

    My grandmother always said “Make sure your own house is clean before looking at the neighbors.” Never before has this better stated.We’re so worried about the rest of the world that we are not cleaning our own house.We’re being invaded by illegal rats from the south,people being killed by the thousands, with guns we furnish them ,foreclosures and unemployment and and over all decline in this country and we’re worried about the rights and deaths of people in Libya.We’re sending aid to Japan,Chili,Indosnesian,Haiti and anywhere else there has been a disaster.Where were these countries after Katrina,Mt St Helena ect ect. I don’t remember any of them here rendering aide. Lets do our house work before cleaning our neighbors.

    • JIBBS

      Several countries tried to help with the B.P. oil spill, but they were not “union”, and guess who put a stop to that….

    • spitfire

      Some actually did contribute, even Indonesia,but you are correct, we can no longer afford our obese foreign policy.

    • 45caliber

      momplayer:

      We are sending money to almost every country in the world, regardless of whether they have a disaster or not. We rebuilt Japan after WWII – and I’m expecting them to want us to fund the entire rebuilding now. We need to stop all of it.

      Canada has actually given us some aid a few years ago but I don’t remember the reason. Everyone else assumes that since we are the richest country in the world they don’t need to give us help.

      But some did offer help during BP – and were turned down by you-know-who.

      • JC

        as a side note 45, Canada parked 3 of its naval vessels off the coast of New Orleans after Katrina. A hospital ship and resources for rescuing stranded citizens as well as food and water purification.
        They were told to stand down as their help was not required.
        Good ol FEMA took care of everything…

        In any event, Canada has been an ally and a good neighbor to us.

  • Dan

    Hmmmmm Does anybody wonder about the significance of Obama being in Brazil? The …what was it 90 Million he gave to a brazilian oil company of which George Soros JUST HAPPENS to be a major stock holder in. If the oil supply in Libya drys up I would think the Soros/Obama Brazil deal would be worth TRILLIONS. Can anyone say conflict of interest? Obama is a disgrace not just to Americans but to everyone on the planet

    • Conservative at Birth

      It is $ 2B not $ 90M, and Soros sold his holdings in Petrobras after Glenn Beck exposed it.

      • Conservative at Birth

        And the President of Brazil is a Comrade to boot.

  • Joey Biden

    Will somebody PLEASE impeach this mindless idiot president.

  • msmama3

    EN400
    Thank you for your service to this THE greatest Nation in the world! I wish we had more of our military willing to speak out about how this progressive/socialist ‘movement’ in America is destroying this once great country. The idiots that keep voting for these same politicians & expecting different results in DC, are tearing this nation down to a third world country. I too am afraid for the first time in my life for the outcome of all the drastic spending that is being carried out & the policies being implemented by this Administration. We need a LEADER and we knew Obama was just an organizer when he was being pushed upon the American voters with his “Hope & Change” campaign. Am I the only person in the country that realized that he NEVER NOT ONCE explained exactly what “Hope & Change” really meant to him (except for the statement of “we are just a few weeks away from the fundamental transformation of America”). Even in that statement, he didn’t have the guts to admit that he was changing the government to a socialist gov’t! And all the “blind followers” believed the hope & change bit to mean he was going to clean up DC, bring the troops home & at long last bring Peace to the Middle East!! Yea, right!
    OldHenry…..THANK YOU! I have long said, IF YOU DON’T LOVE LIVING IN AMERICA THE WAY IT WAS FOUNDED BY THE FOUNDING FATHERS….THEN LEAVE! I have a big family & a LOT of friends that will be more than happy to help anybody that wants to live under a socialist/communist, progressive/liberal government to move to a country that is already set up with that particular style of government. And there are many to chose from. So get packing! AMERICA IS A REPUBLIC….NOT A DEMOCRACY! Learn the difference people! God Bless this nation!
    And yes for those of you out there, I AM a Tea Party Member, I believe in the Constitution as the rule of law of the land, I am very much PRO Israel, I am a 9-12er & believe in the 9 principles & 12 values that this nation was founded upon. The US’s first intervention in any of the governments in the Middle Eastern countries is one of the mistakes we as a government made. We need NOT to be the police of the world. America should come first. Use our own resources, coal, oil, natural gas, solar, wind, whatever & get OUT of other countries governments….NOW!
    Does everybody not remember just last year, was it, the Lockerbie bomber was released & the Libyans were throwing parties in the streets? And now our military is bombing to “free the rebels”? What is wrong with this picture? The Libyan people are just using the US military to accomplish their goals & this Pres has fallen for Hillary & Bill’s rhetoric, hook, line & sinker! These people that are wanting us to oust their leader, have killed as many or even more US servicemen/women than Al Queda! We should NOT be involved in any more wars UNLESS we are attacked on US SOIL!
    Thank you Dr Livingston for all the information you provide & the platform for those of us who chose to speak up about things we find important! God Bless you and your staff!

    • Thamera

      Well said mama3. The sad thing is most people have no idea about the 9/12 project, what it means or what they are. Instead they wonder where on earth do we get these ideas? Some even suggesting that we are just “sheeple” for listening to the likes of Beck or Fox News (god forbid!) and cannot possibly have any basis for our ideas like the 9 values or 12 principles that our nation was founded on. Or what we even mean when we make reference to our founders. yah, we are just sheeple! haha

  • Debra Milton

    There’s much more to this war then meets the eye. Since we’re certainly no longer considered (average Joe) our Governments employer and The President rides as a lone wolf I can only guess at what HIS plans could possibly be. Maybe HE believes HE’s the MAUDI and Libya disagrees. OH well time will only tell the ending to this story or should I rephrase that as nightmare.

  • Henry Ledbetter

    It seems to me that the bombing of Libya only hasten the rush to Armageddon where the blood will flow to the horses bridle for two hundred miles. One nation from the east which I believe is China, will send 200 million troops to fight antichrist but Our Lord will appear and all the gathered armies will turn on Him. Only those that personally know Jesus win. Having known Him for 41 years now, I can highly recommend Him to those that may not know Him.

    • S.C.Murf

      Thank you Henry, amen

  • Bert Cundle

    When our protesters Scare the Government… Government overpowers. Remember Park in L.A.? What if U.S.S.R. Got a No Fly Zone over L.A. ?
    And Passed out weapons to the protesters???

  • EN400

    msmama3:
    Service members have their hands sort of tied when it comes to expressing a political opinion at the risk of being brought up on charges. During the Clinton administration we were forbidden to repeat Monica Lewinski jokes under threat of severe punishment.

    By the way, I was never so embarassed for my country and military when slick willy was in office. I’m just hoping for the best, planning for the worst.

    • msmama3

      I didn’t think I could be any more embarrassed than when “slick Willy” was in office either….UNTIL NOW, that is! I never EVER dreamed this country would become so apathetic that it’s electorate would put an out & out socialist/marxist/communist in the White House! I understand the active military has it’s hands tied as to whether they can speak out against their sitting Commander-in-chief. I’m sure it has to be really hard with the crop we’ve had over the past 15 or so years! I’m just thankful folks like you are speaking up and trying to get people to see the light now! God Bless you for trying.

      • Jay

        The electorate was not what got him in, the one’s who own our debt put him in! To whom you are indebted, the same will enslave you.

    • Thamera

      No kidding EN400. I spent some time in Canada during his (Clinton’s) presidency and you should here what even they were saying about him! It was truly embarrassing. Talk about the butt of the joke! gah.

    • bbstacker

      Molon Labe. ;)

    • DaveH

      Remember, EN400, that you swore an oath to uphold the Constitution against all enemies, foreign or domestic. That overrides all else.

  • http://AOL.COM FRENCHIE

    WELL, I SEE THE “RED HORDE” IS OUT IN FULL FORCE TODAY, PRAISING “THE MESSIAH”, CHUGGING THE KOOL-AID LIKE IT’S COMING OUT OF A BEER BONG, & GENERALLY TALKING SH!T A MILE A MINUTE ABOUT HOW “THE DEAR LEADER” IS WALKING ON WATER THROUGH ALL THIS B.S. & DOING NOTHING WRONG, AS USUAL. I KNOW IT’S HARD TO ADMIT YOU’VE BEEN DUPED BY A SNAKE-OIL SALESMAN, BUT DAMN….C’MON GUYS. IF YOU CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS JOKE OF A PRESIDENT, YOU’RE NO SMARTER THAN A MENTALLY DEFICIENT CHIMPANZEE ON ACID. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU VOTE A PERSON INTO THE NATION’S HIGHEST OFFICE WHO HAS NO MILITARY EXPERIENCE WHAT-SO-EVER, ONLY VERY LIMITED EXPERIENCE IN GOVERNMENT, PERIOD, & IDEALS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN BY TIME & HISTORY TO BE DISASTEROUS FAILURES OVER & OVER AGAIN. BY NOW, ANYBODY WITH ANY KIND OF COMMON SENSE KNOWS THAT THE WHOLE MIDDLE EAST IS NOTHING BUT A LOST CAUSE & WE CAN’T STOP WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON THERE FOR LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF YEARS, NO MATTER HOW MANY BOMBS WE DROP, OR HOW MANY YOUNG LIVES WE DESTROY & END TRYING. I SAY SCREW ‘EM, LET THEM FIGHT IT OUT ON THIER OWN WITHOUT ANY UNNECESSARY LOSS OF LIFE FROM U.S. TROOPS. LET THE U.N. DEAL WITH IT WITHOUT US. YOU NOTICE CHINA’S STAYING OUT OF IT COMPLETELY, DON’T YOU ? THAT’S BECAUSE THERE’S NOTHING TO BE GAINED BY GETTING INVOLVED. I USUALLY DON’T AGREE WITH ANYTHING TO DO WITH CHINA, AS I ABSOLUTELY HATE COMMUNISTS. BUT DAMMIT, THERE’S A TIME WHEN EVEN THE ENEMY MAKES A SMART MOVE. OH, THAT’S RIGHT, CHINA IS NOT THE ENEMY TO YOU PEOPLE. IT’S A “SOCIALIST PEOPLE’S PARADISE”. WELL THEN, URGE YOUR “DEAR LEADER” TO STAY THE HELL OUT OF IT IF HE CAN’T MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS FOR AMERICA, WHICH HE OBVIOUSLY CAN’T. THERE’S WAY TOO MANY EXAMPLES OF HIS INCOMPETENCE & INCOMPREHENSIBLE ACTIONS TO ARGUE THAT HE KNOWS WHAT HE’S DOING. EVEN YOUR OWN DEMOC-RATS IN CONGRESS ARE SAYING HE SHOULD BE IMPEACHED FOR HIS IDIOCY & CIRCUMVENTION OF THE CONSTITUTION. YET, YOU BLINDLY FOLLOW HIM & WORSHIP HIS EVERY MOVE….AMAZING ! THAT’S POLITICAL EDUCATION (READ THAT,”BRAINWASHING”) AT IT’S FINEST. I AWARD YOU ALL (LIBERALS) NO INTELLIGENCE POINTS & MAY GOD HAVE MORE MERCY ON YOUR SOULS THAN HE HAS HAD ON YOUR MINDS & THE IMPLEMENTATION OF “COMRADE OBAMA’S” POLICIES WILL HAVE ON YOUR ASSES…..AMEN.

  • http://google mike b.

    Hussein Obama is a THUG!!! The we he is talking about is his THUG administration and piece of crap Soros. A.G. Holder is KING THUG NO.1!!!

  • http://comcast.net PRESTON W.ATHEY

    Kick The United Nation out of AMERICA.See if another country will foot the bill!They can put us in WAR without CONGRESS’S VOTE. It’s Insane to cator to this War mongoring BUNCH of oil hunger crooks. Check on the counties that we are so call fighting Terrorest in,OIL,OIL AND MORE OIL.
    The New World Order is calling the shots.They know that Obummer can’t make the right choices.So big money Will.
    Long live AMERICA and GOD BLESS HER.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    msmama3,
    Excelent post, could`t have said it better. I do believe one thing,the most dangerous people in America aren`t who you might think,
    but are the people who voted Obama and his loons in to begin with.
    Why can`t they see who Obama hangs his hat with? I know it`s a job to find out, because the media won`t tell them. This scares me more than
    anything.Here are just a few of Obamas friends and adviseors, that people need to know, what they stand for and what part they play in the the present adminastration.> Cass Sestien, Velorie Jarett, Andy
    Stern,Bill Ayers, Van Jones, Jeffery Jones, Rev Jerrmey Wright, Anita
    Dunn, Richard Trumka, George Soros,John Podesta, and to many to name.
    The Apollo Alliance, every American should know who these people are and where and what part they have played in in forming the present
    goverment. I could go on and on, but it drives me nuts.

    • Denniso

      It drives you nuts? That’s pretty obvious. You’ve reall got some ‘bad’ people in your list there,don’t you…Wow,John Podesta!

      You appear to be,like many rightwingers,off the edge of sanity w/ your fear mongering and paranoia. Take a walk,get off these sites and lighten up on your brain.

      • JIBBS

        Please go Troll somewhere else.

      • bbstacker

        You have never done your homework. Never. You have the responsibility to dig up the dirt on these people, that is all that this Patriot was passing along, but you ridicule him for mentioning a name that you are totally and arrogantly ignorant about when it comes to the NWO vermin who are more than happy to have ignoramuses like you sucking their hind teat. May the chains rest lightly upon you, as we will certainly forget you. Podesta needs a cabin boy, and you probably fit that description.

        • Denniso

          You sound as unstable and misguided as the first guy…amazing! Yes, I’m really afraid of the NWO…big bad boogeyman!

        • 45caliber

          bbstacker:

          Denniso and others like him are convinced that if NWO or some similar group does take over, they will be rewarded for being supportive and all we bad conservatives will be the ones punished. They never seem to realize that the new leaders are only interested in workers and not welfare recipients as followers/slaves. They don’t need people to vote as told; they will have the power.

          • Denniso

            You ans most others here have been reading too many fantasy books,or comics. There is no NWO but we should beware of real actions that Cheny/Bush did,like illegal surveilance of citizens,lying us into a war and wrecking the economy.

      • DaveH

        As usual the Liberal Denniso prefers personal attacks to facts.

        But keep on posting, Denniso. You are the best advertisement we have to wake the fence straddlers up to the real nature of Liberals.

        • Denniso

          DaveH, the guy who fakes libertarianism and hates all things government,but has lived his whole life off gov’t money.

          • Eddie47d

            Only Dave’s hairdresser knows for sure! LOL

          • Jay

            Denniso, that made no sense…

          • JC

            no sense at all….

          • DaveH

            Denniso is frustrated with me because he chose the wrong profession to claim he had a business in.
            Isn’t it odd that when you ask these Liberals what Government job they have, they usually say they have their own businesses? I suspect that is something their trainers put them up to.
            It’s interesting also that he would choose to claim I have been feeding at the trough all my life for two reasons.
            1) That would make me somewhat of a hero for refusing to be bought.
            2) It demonstrates exactly why people shouldn’t partake at the trough, because then the Liberals will claim that once you do, you can never leave (kind of like the Mafia).

            But then, I never said Dumniso had any brains.

          • JC

            DaveH says:
            March 23, 2011 at 11:16 pm
            Denniso is frustrated with me because he chose the wrong profession to claim he had a business in.
            Isn’t it odd that when you ask these Liberals what Government job they have, they usually say they have their own businesses? I suspect that is something their trainers put them up to.
            ———————————————————————-

            And when the crash comes…and it will, I’d bet a dollar that all these government people and especially IRS agents will be claiming they are accountans and such…not Agents.
            Kind of like the Nazi’s after WW2 claiming they were Swiss.

          • Denniso

            DaveH…’frustrated w/ you’?? Hardly,since that would mean you matter,which is certainly laughable. All I’ve tried to do is get you to confirm or deny that your salary and retirement were paid for w/ tax money. Pretty simple…if you did aeronautical engineering as you say, then the odds are very good that your pay came from gov’t contracts,meaning tax money…and in your terms that means money stolen from the people. You bash the gov’t and gov’t workers and we would just like to know if you had a sudden conversion or are a hypocrite…that’s all,no big deal,right?

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Frenchie,
    As I said, the most dangerous people in America, are the ones
    who voted for Obama in the first place.

    • http://AOL.COM FRENCHIE

      I TOTALLY AGREE, BROTHER…I TOTALLY AGREE !!!

      • bob wire

        Feel free to fear me then.

        You would have prefered MCCain?

        MCCain stated that we needed to be in Libya, yesterday!

        McCain wants US troops in Iraq for the next 10 years.

        I fear there is too many people today that speaking and voting without bothering to thinking.

        • Jay

          bob wire you dope, we are saying both parties are in cahoots!

          • bob wire

            Why the name calling, child?

            You looking for a spanking?

          • Jay

            I don’t play that kind of kinky game there, Bobby boo. Whatever turns your crank though, you’re probably born that way, I suppose!

  • DaveH

    Wow, the Liberals are out in force on this one — If it’s war by Bush, it’s horrible — If it’s war by Obama, it’s great.
    What a bunch of hypocrites.

    Make no mistake, Folks. This is about One World Government with the UN in charge. Obama is practicing his power now on Gaddafi. Next it will be on us if we don’t start getting together and stopping the other madman — Obama.

    • 45caliber

      I agree with you. Hypocrits are the perfect word for them.

    • JC

      Bob Livingston made a very good point as to the UN.
      What is to stop the UN from bringing the might of the planet against patriotic Americans opposed to Globalism?

      One thing and one thing only….A very heavily armed populace.
      I mean 180 to 200 million smokin mad Americans.

      • bbstacker

        It’s even better than that! Blades of grass comes to mind…

      • Jay

        Count me in!!!

      • JC

        BTW, Bob only posed the question.

        The last two sentences were my own.

    • bob wire

      “Wow, the Liberals are out in force on this one — If it’s war by Bush, it’s horrible — If it’s war by Obama, it’s great.
      What a bunch of hypocrites.”

      Oh really! Just any old war, is the same as the next?

      Well Dave, ~ Seems to me, we are just attempting to finish “more” of what the GOP leadership has left undone around the world. Taking out the garbage.

      Your “Messiah” Ronnie Rayguns lead off with this and for damn good reason if I recall. ( don’t you just like to hear that?)

      So enough of your self-righteous hypocritical BS.

      But you can call it Obama’s war if you want too, I don’t mind.

      One thing is for certain, ~ I don’t expect Libyan’s to throw back roses like we were promised in IraQ!

      • Jay

        Hey bobby wire, isn’t your shift about over? Mole!

      • DaveH

        I guess Reagan is back from the grave. The War in Libya is Reagan’s fault now.
        You are an unbelievable Ignoramus, Bob Wire.

      • DaveH

        And, Bob, if you’re going to comment any more, could you please supply me with an interpreter? I don’t speak obtuse.
        When I try to read your garbled comments, I feel like I’m watching an old Cheech and Chong movie.

        • Jay

          DaveH, I think it may actually be Chong with the user name, bob wire!

        • bob wire

          MolE? WTF !

          Dave, well just do the best you can with the reading thing, I understand , “It’s HARD!” ~

          Ronnie should have finished this guy off long ago.

          Seems that you guys don’t know the difference between a “Good” fight and a “Bad” one.

          This man has American civilians blood on his hands, blew a civilian carrier up mid air and the people poured out and fell to the ground, women, children. Think about that for a minute before you get all huffy and bad with me.

          Where is your backbone?

          Let’s hug him to death, like he was a tree! Hehehe!

          But seriously, ~ work on those comprehension skill, they will serve you well later!

          • Denniso

            There’s our friend DaveH making more personal attacks…Bob Wire has said before that he has reading difficulties,but you have to attack him.

          • DaveH

            As usual, obtuse.

          • DaveH

            By the way, Denniso, Bob said this — “So enough of your self-righteous hypocritical BS”. So you Liberals can dish it out, but we can’t respond in kind? Sorry, Dumniso, I’m not a Christian, so I don’t have to turn the other cheek.

          • Denniso

            Obtuse?? You really can’t understand that Bob Wire has said he has some reading difficulty so he sometimes has trouble typing? You don’t need to be a Christian to know what’s decent or not. As to turning the other cheek, I don’t have to worry about that either,but it seems that supposed Christians here don’t as well.

      • JC

        bob wire says:
        March 23, 2011 at 3:26 pm

        But you can call it Obama’s war if you want too, I don’t mind.
        __________________________________________________________________

        It isn’t Obama’s war…It’s the UN’s war.
        The UN is now our president and it just happens to look a lot like a Black Guy from kenya for some odd reason.

        Go Figure…

  • JiimCO

    Are you kidding Mr. Meyer’s, the neocons in charge of the WH in 2002 would have been ecstatic had there been this kind of uprising against Saddam … they wouldn’t have had to drum up all that phony WMD intel to make a case for invading Iraq!

    As for Libya, are you complaining that Obama is not doing enough … or to he is doing to much? I for one see no problem with letting Europe lead on this one, this problem is closer to their home then ours, let them bear the cost.

    • JC

      They’re just as broke as we are.
      Unless, maybe…China could lend them a couple of billion US?

  • http://com i41

    Preston W.A., don’t forget the jug eared bastard gave Mexico a check of 2 billion also, to go out in the gulf, and start drilling where BP was banned. Agree with kicking the removing the UN, who wants to keep the UN here, the elitist azzes who want to be under Un world control. Since when did USA, do a damn thing thinks is the boss of the week. Don’t here a work from the soros socialist dumbocraps worring about paying the tab! What is the soros socialist’s plan oil for peace, with USA paying above market price, or is it the new salvage yard for our jet planes. Since stupid pukes think we can downsize the military and use junk like Nuts Carter did and kill our pilots as a bonus. Best thing to do to clean out the goat abusing perverts, is just light up the sky with a fireball. We don’t know what we are supporting, torch the whole bunch like getting rid of ants in a building. Kill them all and let ST Peter sort out the mess. We definitely need to take out Moron Queerdaffy, Clypso Louie Fkaduck, “rev” Lonny Coon Wright, all goat abusing bros at a Nambla boys retreat with Onumnutts being the MC. Or just wait for the muslim walk a thong to Mecca and really stomp on an ant hill, bring in a USA flying rock crusher to the rock, should make great concrete rock for the next hog raising plant for bacon and McPork sandwiches and Ribs joint of the desert.

  • EN400

    My brother-in-law voted for the Kenyan. Made his wife vote for him too. When asked why, can’t give a substantial answer (he’s SUCH a democrat) and at every oportunity, I rub his nose in it. He’s starting to piss and moan about unfolding events and I remind him that he voted for him, now he’s got him. He drank the coolaid. I bought him a rifle for Christmas (much to his dismay) and I got his wife an O’Bama Chia Pet. I hope Sara runs. She’s GOTTA throw out all the socialists out of office.

    • bbstacker

      and a zerobama chia pet? You Da Man! (did you give him cartridges, too?…get him to an AppleSeed)

      • EN400

        Yup, A brand spanking new Ruger 10-22. (22 LR is what killed Bob Kennedy) and a couple hundred rounds of 40 grain. I’m taking him to the range this spring. AND the wives. Everyone will become proficient. One day they’ll need it.

  • Thamera

    Those in my family who voted for Obama could only say they liked what he said and how he said it. They were hoping for change. The got it! Are they happy now? AH……No! lol

    • Carlucci

      What about all of those clueless college students who voted for Obummer,
      and now they can’t find jobs? The joke is on them (and lots of others).

      • bob wire

        Yea , well they are smart and know that the GOP Senate tabled over 150 pieces of legislation focusing on employment offered by the 111th. DNC congress.

        They are bright, just a little lazy to make it to the poles and explains the good midterm gains by the GOP and their “mandate”

        I wouldn’t count on the youth vote if I was you.

  • JeffH

    Maybe there will be a push to impeach Obama for bypassing Congress on the Libyan attacks and sleeping with the real enemies, the UN and their hidden “directors”(think House of Rothschilds, NWO). Seems the ole boy is pissing off the hardcore liberal bunch in DC.

    Anybody remember this Obama lie from 2007?

    2007 candidate Obama said: “The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.

    As commander-in-chief, the president does have a duty to protect and defend the United States. In instances of self-defense, the president would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent.”

    This sums it up well, although there are still some who’ll wallow at his feet forever.

    “Hypocrisy, Thy Middle Name is Hussein” by Ben Johnson

    The U.S. Constitution restricts the warmaking power to Congress. Article I, Section 8 gives the legislative branch alone ability to “declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal” and “calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.”

    • Vigilant

      JeffH,

      The War Powers Act gives him the authority. Presidents have violated the intent of the Constitution for so many decades, it’s unlikely anyone will call Obama on this.

      Harry Truman went into Korea without authority as well. He claimed being a member of the UN gave him the proper go-ahead.

      • JC

        I guess the UN was really our president then too…

  • Henry Ledbetter

    EN400 Thanks for your 38 years of service and I pray many like you may refuse an unlawful order, if it should come to such a time as that. In our part of the country we still respect and honor our troops.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    JeffH,
    I`m glad more people are finding out who the Rothschilds are.The father Jacob and the son Anthony,are the two George Soros answers too.
    Here is a thought to be hold. Our Federal Reserve Chairman
    ( Ben Bernanke ) is a cousin of the Rothschilds. Print more money
    Big Ben, till the dollar is worth nothing. The Weimar Republic is
    on it`s way.

  • Danny Buckles

    Folks write,and call your congress and senate members and demand IMPEACHMENT A run over dog has enough sense left to know that is what we need.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    EN400,
    You might tell your brother- in- law that there is no longer a Democrat party, it was hijacked by the Progressives and now is the Progressive party, even though they hide behind the name Democrat.
    The only way he is going to get his party back is to vote Republican
    in 2012 and maybe in 2016 he will be able to vote for a real Democrat.
    As much as it hurts for a Democrat to vote Republican, this is the only way they can regain control of their party. Obama and his Marxist
    goons have to be driven out of Washington and maybe the country
    forever.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    En400,
    Obama and his crew are beyond being Socialists, they are nothing
    but a bunch of Marxist trying to destroy this country. I don`t
    feel bad for your brother-in-law, I feel sorry for his kids, if
    he has any.

    • Denniso

      I don’t like to insult people directly,but you guys sound like raving lunatics. Maybe you’re little kids who are clueless and know nothing,which could account for your obvious ignorance.

      • JC

        Ignorance of what? seems like they know exactly what they mean…Obama is an Anti-American plant. That much is obvious.

    • JeffH

      “I don’t like to insult people directly” That is a blatant lie!

  • misguided

    It’s not Obama that is splitting the people in the US. It is the people that is writing in this blog. Especially the one that wrote it.

    • http://deleted Claire

      misguided–Regardless of who the president is, the MSM/talk show hosts, all of them, have been dividing this country for many years. This didn’t just happen. It just happens to be much worse now. And to be honest, I am rather sick and tired of hearing all of them and their so-called opinions. I will do my own research and form my own opinions. I refuse to be “sheeple” to any MSM, radio talk show hosts, or any party.

      • Kate8

        Claire – Hi!

        Just curious. Where do you find unbiased information?

        • http://deleted Claire

          Kate8– You and I both know there is no such thing as unbiased reporting. For example, as far as politics is concerned, I try to “catch” every politician that happens to be on TV, I will listen to them speak (whomever they may be) but I will not waste my time listening to the anchors spew their opinions AFTER the politician has spoken. I don’t want to hear the opinions of these people, I want to hear what the politican says. Thus I form my own opinion about a politician. If these people that freely give their biased opinions are so damn smart, why don’t they run for POTUS?

          • Kate8

            Claire – Okay, I get it, and I hear ya.

            Although, I wouldn’t trust much of anything coming out of a politicians mouth, either.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Kate8–You know I don’t believe everything that comes out of a politicians mouth, the same applies to the anchors. “Believe half of what you see and none that you hear.” I try to “sit back” and really, really observe and listen to the politicians. There are some that belong on Comedy Central. One thing that stands out is the shallowness of some of these politicians.

    • Karolyn

      AMEN!

    • Carlucci

      misguided – your name fits you like a glove. If you really feel that way about the content and opinions on this blog, why are you here?

      • libertytrain

        yes, Carlucci = that is a great question. And why, the “always positive” speaking Karolyn, is cheering him on? Why the heck do these people come here – probably because since the conservatives are not allowed to post on the lib sites, they get bored with the lib sites and have to come to a site that is gracious enough to allow all points of view.

  • chuckb

    now i know why barry has been vacationing so much, he’s looking for a country that will give him asylum. how come every democratic president has been a loser. even jfk was fading before his death and he was the best of the bunch. fdr was a complete failure, without ww2 we may have lost this nation due to his policies. barry doesn’t rate mention, he’s a complete loser, we have never had a president this bad even beats out carter for last place.

  • Tierra Teneil/Johnnie Blando

    Well, the way I see all of this is totally different. Myers and Wood keep tyrying to portray Obama as incompetent,(they are totally brain dead like our government, liberals, and half of America). On the contrary he is very competent and deliberate, they just refuse to see it and acknowledge it, just like our Congress and half of America. Obama hates America and he is purposely doing everything in his deliberate power to destroy this nation physically, spiritually, morally and economically. He knows that Arabs and their religion would never submit to democracy.(He is one of them and he is their de-facto leader, so wake up all and smell your ass holes, and if you don’t wake up, best kiss it goodbye) All this is a ploy by the Arab world to get the west to over-throw the leaders that are preventing the Sharia-law gang from taking over. They haven’t got the power to pull it off, but they know how stupid the west is, and they have brilliantly manipulated them in doing the heavy lifting for them (Bombing them,….to bad the Guy from Egypt folded like a deck of cards at Obama’s beconing). Myers and Wood have been way off base for a long time on Obama and the Arab world,….sorry guys, but your totally stupid on this subject.

    • libertytrain

      I dare say the way you see it – may very well be wrong.

    • Karolyn

      And you obviously know all!

  • Kate8

    I just had to share this. I hope some will watch it.

    Some days, when I have to go out (which is not often), I make a point of speaking to people around me, smiling and being friendly. More often than not, I get a smile (and a bit of surprise) back. It lifts my heart, and I feel like I’m bringing a moment of lightness to a heavy world.

    I believe that this is what will save us: restoring our humanity.

    This video is a sampling of America on a New York subway, a place where people normally do not interact in any way. How wonderfully surprising people are when one bothers to look closer.

    http://www.republicmagazine.com/videos/just-keep-going.html

    • Karolyn

      I loved it, Kate! Actually, NYC has such a bad rep when it comes to the friendliness of the people I always had friendly encounters with New Yorkers whenever I was in the city. Here in SC, everyone waves as you drive down the street and says hello in the stores whether they know you or not. The one time I went back to NJ after I’d been here for 6 months, I was already used to the behavior and was taken aback at the lack of friendliness. Being a Jersey girl, I had always thought we were friendly. Of course, the video is not about friendliness;; but, yes, when you take the time to acknowledge someone, the results can be very surprising.

    • JeffH

      Kate8, I, too, enjoy extending a little friendly respect and courtesy to people when I go out. Opening and holding doors open for people behind me and even some ahead of me, looking people in the eyes with a smile usually gets a hello and best of all, I make a point to say “thank you for your service” to those in uniform whom I run across all of the time. When I have a couple of extra bucks I might give it to a homeless person on occasion. Where I live, people are far more friendly than in the Bay Area or SoCal.

  • jopa

    President Obamas poll numbers are still climbing.Other than the Ratmuffin polls his at 54% and climbing.America is truly proud of their great leader and he has done more for this country already in the short time he has been in office than the previous four presidents.However we have to also give Hillary credit.The world looks upon us with envy.Thank you.

    • bob wire

      What are you trying to do Jopa, start a riot?

    • Vigilant

      jopa,

      HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA (TAKE A BREATH) HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

      • Vigilant

        jopa, do you have wet dreams over Obama?

    • Jay

      hey jopa, I love your standup comedy show!!!LOL!

    • JeffH

      Presidential Approval Ratings — Barack Obama
      Gallup – 48% (Mar 14-20, 2011)
      Average for U.S. Presidents Since Franklin D. Roosevelt: 54%

      Rasmussen – 26% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve, 47% of voters say they at least somewhat approve (March 23, 2011)

      CNN – 50% approval (March 15, 2011)

    • JC

      BEST LAUGH OF HE DAY AWARD. LMAO

  • Ronald Johnston

    osama obama – this evil man has not done anything since he was a child in Indonesia which would convince me that he is anything but an evil terrorist.

  • http://com i41

    Viglant, jopa has dreams of Hillary since he likes short choppy rides, and Hill is coupled up, short legged, a a chubby shetland type. Mean and head strong and needs a strong hand and a split bit to control her, don’t think jopa can handle that.Since Onumnutts is like a camel always bowing down on a rug, jope and crawl up Barry’s neck to get seated.

  • Geoman

    Obama disciples -Green and kinetic 1 .You are totally out of it !!!

    The pretender in chief is a charlatan and subversive in his “adopted” country -USA.

  • JeffH
  • http://personalliberty.com Tattoomama

    http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-politics/stupid-presidents-how-america-blew-up-the-middle-east/

    The above is the first article of the 2-part series. Mr. Myers does not “play favorites” – the last 5 presidents have done a rather abysmal job of diplomacy in the middle east. In fact the only difference between dubya’s and the chosen one’s grades is that the chosen one has only taken 2 years to get his F while it took dubya 8 years to earn his F. And jopa’s comments have to be sarcasm–he couldn’t possibly believe that nonsense.

  • barbm

    i’ve read that, if the rebels should be successful, the muslim brotherhood will take power and institute strict sharia law. so what will be different? it’ll be worse, and they’ll still hate us no matter who is in power.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Barbm:

      Jovi posted a link yesterday in answer to one of my posts It went to a Washington Post peice about the Brotherhood. It was interesting and informative. I am not saying I swallow it, but it was food for thought. Maybe Jovi can post it again.

      We must, indeed, be sure of whom we are trying to bring to power over there. Just as we should have been more careful about whom we brought to power over here….

  • FreedomFighter

    Impeach Obama now, remove this traiter to America from office.

    Watch and be prepared, June-July this year, they must consolidate power or fail. Hope they fail.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • Jay

    Hey folks, I found an interesting post by a blogger named Texcin.

    I was reading about Bergs supreme court lawsuit against Obama being dismissed today . This was the second lawsuit against Obama about his vault birth certificate not being showed.

    Berg stated that if Obama isn’t really born in US that he could be blackmailed about it. I know theres been many post on here about the BC controversy , but I never thought of this being something someone could blackmail him with.

    Then I started thinking if someone was blackmailing him already .Who would be gaining something from knowing he wasn’t born here and who has the know how to get the BC and blackmail him with it?

    Then I started thinking about how the Clintons are really running the show. Hillary got the cabinet post she wants and 70% of Obamas cabinet picks are Clinton people.

    Obama received alot of flack for picking all these Clinton has beens , but he continued to pick more. There are so many able , smart , fresh political people Obama had to pick from but he keeps picking Clintons people.

    So my question is, could the Clintons have a copy of the vault Bc that Obama REFUSES to show and is blackmailing Obama and telling Obama who they (the Clintons)want in the cabinet post?

    Written by Texcin

    • Jay

      World Net Daily broke the story of Army Major Stefan Cook, who argued that he should not have to deploy to Afghanistan because President Obama has not proven that he is a natural-born citizen, therefore he is unable to serve as Commander-In-Chief.

      This is something that will receive little, if any, coverage from the mainstream media.
      However, the fact that the U.S. Army revoked the orders of a soldier about to be sent overseas based wholly upon such a claim is unprecedented.

      Birth Certificate Vs. Certification Of Live Birth
      July 17, 2009

      We just did a story bringing to light how the U.S. Army revoked the orders of a Major scheduled to deploy to Afghanistan after he filed a lawsuit claiming that the deployment would be illegal due to the fact that Barack Obama has failed to produce a birth certificate, therefore he has not proven his eligibility to be Commander-In-Chief.

      To say that we started a firestorm would be putting it mildly.
      We had our fair share of rational responses, as well as the usual off-topic comments, accusations of being right-wing nuts, etc.
As well as a few that were too obscene to put into print.

      It turns out that our theory that the document presented by Obama appears to be homemade has some support, in that it seems that there is a difference between a “Certification of Live Birth” as opposed to a “Certificate of Live Birth.”

      Our friend Pamela at Atlas Shrugs also presents a compelling case that the document presented as proof that Obama is a natural-born American citizen is indeed a forgery.
      And for you Obamanites who claim that there is no difference between a Certification of Live Birth and a Birth Certificate, we, as well as the State of Hawaii, would have to disagree with you.

      Pay close attention to the following Hawaiian legal statute:

      “[§338-17.8]  Certificates for children born out of State. 
(a)  Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

      
(b)  Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate.  The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.

      
(c)  The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]”

      Everybody get that?

      As long as an adult can walk into Hawaii’s version of the Department of Records and provide proof that they are a legal resident of Hawaii, the document is issued.

      The child, on the other hand, could have been born in Hawaii, Kenya, or a back-alley in Budapest.
      How much more proof do you disciples of the Messiah need before you will admit that there are legitimate reasons to demand answers on this issue?

      Of course the fact that Obama may have been elected to our nation’s highest office in direct violation of the United States Constitution is not something that would greatly trouble a dedicated Kool-Aid drinker.

      The above info was from: Infowars.com

      • Denniso

        The fool who refused to obey orders to deploy was court martialed…it’s alie that his orders were revoked.
        And,at some point you jokers will have to give up on this baloney and start following flying saucers,right?

        • Thamera

          hmmmm…birth certificates and flying saucers….I’m sure you could produce your birth certificate if asked Denniso…why can’t the president? It is a very simple question.

          • Denniso

            It’s a dead issue,except in the minds of some confused rightwingers. When you file for the presidency you have to prove citizenship,and he did. The governor of Hawaii allowed people to look at the birth certificate and now it’s a done deal. If there were anything at all to the question something substantial would have come from it,rather than just the same old baloney. It’s over,and there are important issues to deal with…get on to them.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Jay:

      That if FACINATING! And it is absolutely something the Clintons would and could pull off.

      However, they both want Hillary in as POTUS so why not expose it during the campaign?

      • Denniso

        Good question…the answer is because it’s made up and a total lie.

        • Jay

          What is a total lie? That he is an American citizen with a valid bc? You are right Denniso, it is a lie, finally, you see the light!!!

      • Jay

        Old Henry, anything is possible with the far left fundamentalist wackos! They don’t play by the rules, that is for sure, and they couldn’t find their ass with both hands and their ass!!!

  • Gayle

    The rebels have been outed. They are some sort of muslim terrorist. Aylam Choudray, a muslim “thinker” in the UK, stated,(we did not need the no-fly actions taken by USA,UN, and France, the rebels were going to defeat Mummy Godawfuldaffy, and the muslim brotherhood would take over, ((like Egypt)). obama seems to delebrity stall waiting until he can help his cohorts. My opinion! This choudray went to college in the east, South Point, I think. We need to stop educating these USA hating terrorist. Including obama, he went to Occidental, they finance foreign students. Thanks CA. for that. I wish I had kept the websites I read because it gave indepth infor on obama and michelle from people who knew them. Sorry, but in my opinion you can’t say enough bad about this current poser and company.

  • bob wire

    Where is the JOBS??????

    Donald Trump is “IN” !

    GOP is wants to cut Cooperate Tax 25%

    So is Cooperate Tax really too high ! 25% high?

    Does anyone know the current rate?

    I’ll loose my posting if I browse?

    • Denniso

      Ok genius,what are the impeachment charges? Being black? Being a moderate liberal?Being raise in Indonesia? Having a good looking wife?
      Being smart enough to do the job,unlike the previous dimwit? Not caving in to the rightwing nutjobs?

      • Denniso

        Obviously my response was meant to Red…

      • Vigilant

        Dumbiso,

        I already outlined some high crimes and misdemeanors for your fellow traveler Jovi Anus earlier. Read, my man, read.

        • Denniso

          YOU have outlined impeachment charges? Wow,I’m impressed. I don’t think I’ll waste any time looking for your charges. The fact is there are no high crimes that would come close to charges…you guys don’t have enough to do apparently,so you waste your minds on pap.

          • http://gunner689 gunner689

            How about not being a naturalized citizen and violating his oath of office to defend the Constitution ?

    • Vigilant

      bob wire,

      I’ve told you twice in other postings that the corporate tax rate is 39.4%, second only to Japan (39.5%) amongst the industrialized nations.

  • Red

    All the unhappy people on this blog need to contact their representatives in Congress and demand that impeachment articles be submitted. Get everyone you know to do the same thing. Do it often to get their attention, otherwise, they will never know your true feelings. You pay these people $175,000 per year to represent YOU. They only work three days a week, and some sleep, rent free, in their offices. Rattle their cages. Let them know they can be replaced.

    • JeffH

      Red, I do it several times a week. I’m in California. I do send Boehner emails quite often and remind him who he works for and what is expected from him and tha Republicans and I’m not a Republican or a Dem. I have subsribed to Boehner and McConnel’s websites so that I can hear what they’re saying and see what they are doing.

  • http://google xdemocrat

    Why dosent Hussein Obama print a copy of his birth certificate on his presendential website? You are right Mike B he is a THUG!!! TRUMP 2012!!!!!

  • pete

    You got to have hope and optimism ! One of the best words of advice is “to grow where you are planted” (usually you see a dandelion or some type of flower growing out of some cow manure). We got Obama as President right now and at least for the next 2 years. How can we optimize this situation to our freedom loving benefit ?

    We could try to have Obama impeached ? What are the Vegas odds for success ? You tell me ….

    Or we could try another approach – persuasion ! How can we persuade (peacefully of course !!) President Obama to do what is right ?

    If we could persuade President Obama to be the President we want, we could stop the crazy one worlders …. But how ?

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    This war is just another way for Obama to spend our money.He wants to see the Arab world in turmoil.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Maybe so, but now he is stirring up his homeland: Africa.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Wiselady

    Wiselady says:
    3-23-11

    Now I understand why Henry47d gets very confused! His taro cards must not be working.

    My father in-law passed away and two years later, my step mother in-law, who was very dear to me, became became very ill over something that could have been taken care of quickly. When the doctor became frustrated that her daughter would not respond to his calls, he asked me if I would sign for her to get some surgery done, and she could probably go home within two days. I had no authority to sign her,but only daughter could. She refused! Her daughter was busy reading her taro cards and did not know how to decide whether her mother should have the minor surgery or not. She visited her only one brief time during the whole time she was in the hospital… while she was busy doing her cards! I CRIED!

    I was with my stepmother almost everyday but she passed away after a few days of having been in a coma…It was difficult for me to accept such negligence on her daughter’s part. I got worse!

    Her dauhgter did not want to give her a funeral, much less a memorial service in the church where she and my father in-law had worshipped and had done a lot of volunteer work.

    I argued with her in tears and let her know that her mother was going to have a funeral memorial service in the church she loved dearly and that she and her daughter were welcomed. She agreed to come ..but only if it were to be held outside the church, under the big oak. tree. She and her daughter came! It was beautiful that I God’s power
    prevailed over the taro cards.

    I give Christ all the glory!

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Wiselady

    Denniso!

    Doesn”t the CONSTITUTION HAVE ANY MEANING IN YOUR HEART?

    Obama took an oath to protect and obey it! He has violated his oath too many times.!!

    READ IT! READ IT AND STUDY IT. THERE IS NO OTHER DOCUMENT THAT GRANTS US THE FREEDOM TO BECOME WHAT WE WERE MEANT TO BE!

    Read C.S.Lewis’ “Mere Christianity”. He was an atheist and became aChristian. He died on the same day that Pres. John F. Kennedy was killed so his death went unnoticed, what a very sad day.

    Lewis’ wife, Joy, was a Communist but became a Christian before they married. She died before he did and then wrote, ” A Grieve Observed”, he began to doubt God but realized that HEAVEN was real!!

    • Denniso

      What exactly are you talking about?

    • Jay

      Wiselady, his [offensive word removed] question after the statement you just posted simply means, he has NO HEART!!!!

      Traitors have no heart, just hungry stomachs!

  • Thamera

    wiselady: the constitution threatens people that have no appreciation or understanding for the values and principles that it was predicated upon. Just like the question of Obama’s birth certificate. They become unhinged at even the mere asking because (gasp) what if they are wrong?

  • http://google xdemocrat

    Denniso, if you think Hussein Obama has a good-looking wife, youre not only ignorant youre also blind. She looks like a fat monkey!!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      The woman is as “street ghetto” as they come, and she is not attractive at all. But is really good at spending up our taxpayer money, let there be no doubt about it. She will go down as the most expensive first lady ever in the White House. Shame on her for that, in these so called hard times.

      • Denniso

        We could call you two racist,or just dumb/juvenile,for mocking a woman’s appearance. My guess is that you can’t stand the idea of a smart,educated, Black woman being first lady…horror of horrors!! What is America coming to?? I can also imagine that you two and others who demean her appearance,as you and they do w/ most Dem women,are not exactly beauties yourselves. Grow up and look at what’s in a person’s heart and mind. You don’t like her politics? Fine,but try sticking to that and be a little adult about things.

        • libertytrain

          ah, so that’s racist but using the term redneck in an unflattering manner is not. Oh, I get it. It’s ok for the left but not the right. For the record, I think Mrs. Obama is attractive, though I don’t agree with most of what she pushes.

          • swampfox

            just goes to show what happens when you give a oragutan a face lift!
            i know that was mean,but just had to say it!

        • JC

          Are you kidding Denniso, she’s as dumb as a stick. The POTUS staff have had to keep her under lock and key because of the stuff she spouts off.

          • http://gunner689 gunner689

            Maybe Dummiso likes his women on the knuckle dragging side. She could do a drop shot laying on her back.

          • Denniso

            Would you two enclose a picture so we can see how great looking you are? Then we can laugh at and mock you,because I doubt you win any modeling competitions.

  • jopa

    OMG: Another republican pervert trying to make a bid for the presidency.Donald Trump on national television claims he let Moamar GaGa Daffy put up a tent on some property he owns and apparently they did some camping together and he said he “screwed Gaddafi”.This he claims to make him a man of the world and knows all about making foreign policy.

  • mark

    I voted for Obama and will vote for him again in 2012. Yes, I am disapointed in him on not leaving Afghanstan and Iraq immediately and now getting us involved in Lybia. I am for the USA tearing up all treaties and no longer being the world’s policeman. But when I look at John McCain being President, I am cringe. The problem is that both parties do not put the social needs of the American people first. Cut the military budget in half and use that money to balance the budget and give American Citizens good social services!

    • swampfox

      iran would love to have you in the whitehouse!!!
      you would vote for this worthless scumbag weak kneed jerk off again after seeing what he’s done!
      what are you,just plain dumb??????
      good lord,how can you be so obtuse?????

  • jopa

    mark: Very well said and 65% of America agrees with you.

  • http://google xdemocrat

    Hussein Obama was, is and always will be a muslim THUG!!! I

  • http://google xdemocrat

    Mark and jopa are WRONG!!! If youre right, and i doubt it, then 65% of America is WRONG also. This 65% is why the U.S. is in un-controllable debt and deficit, 10% un-employment, $5 gallon gas prices, rising food prices and the communist, marxist, Rev, Wright(GD America fame). This 65% you speak of is responsible for the destruction of America. God bless this once-great nation and vote this THUG adm. out in 2012(including king THUGS Soros and Holder)so our kids and grandkids may have some chance of a future!!

    • Denniso

      Here I thought you were a reasonable person,and now you sound like you’re insane. Pity…

  • http://google mike b.

    Ronald Johnston i suspected Hussein Obama may have been a terriost before the election, especially with his ties to so many shady characters, including Willam Ayers, who was connected to terrisom. Nom in afraid my worst fears are coming true. God bless America!

    • Denniso

      Now that’s a genius comment!

  • jopa

    Old Henry: Africa is the homeland for all of humanity when are you going to join us.

    • swampfox

      we’ll send obama back to you in 2012!!!!!!

  • jopa

    mikeb: Nobody has more terrorist ties than the Koch brothers in that their grandfather was the kommandant at Buchenwald.If they ran a gas station and Soros had one across the street Soros would have the star of David as a symbol of his heritage on his pumps and the Koch brothers would have a swastika on theirs.The Koch brothers are worth 44billion and use their money for the tea party express to push their agenda of polluting America and making this a nation of the haves and the have nots.Many people have died due to their business practices and they are also known as the Benzine brothers.

  • Thamera

    Jopa: you do know by his own admission, Soros helped the Nazi’s find the Jews hiding from the German Nazis? They may have been born Jewish but that doesn’t mean they have any alliance with the plight of the Jew. They changed their name to Soros not only to escape the Nazi’s but to help the Nazi’s round up other Jews! That is what Soros did and he does not deny it! In fact he (Soros) said that was one of the best years of his life! And what might I ask is Soros using his money for? He (Soros) doesn’t have an agenda???? Maybe the Koch brothers deserve criticism but Soros is certainly no angel. Unlike the Koch brothers, Soros actually participated in WWII in the destruction of his own people!

    • Ed

      If you want to learn more about the Judaic ties to Hitler, go to http://www.hitlerDVD.com. History, you see, has been completely re-written since the 70s, in particular, when the fiction TV mini-series show “The Holocaust” was aired in 1977.

      Also, the origins of the Zionist so-called Jews and the time of the Judaic founding lends much to understanding the events taking place now and through the last century, and why our land is in the state it is in.

      The truth is not pretty but I would rather know it than the BS we have been fed during my lifetime of 65 years. Perhaps you will feel the same or will simply accuses hundreds of historians worldwide, including those of the same origin (especially their leaders past and present, and their encyclopedias, of being “anti” a certain breed of humans.

  • Ed

    It is abundantly clear that many of those commenting haven’t a clue as to the factual job of the President of the United States of America or the role America should operate in.

    It is also abundantly clear that most haven’t a clue as to how presidents and how most, if not all of Congress, is actually put in office. Search vote fraud and the role of the most powerful lobbying groups that are foreign controlled by the Federal Reserve international banking cartel.

    Clearly, since he cannot prove otherwise, Obama is not eligible to hold the office, as no illegal alien is. But, he is a con man and that is exactly what the controllers of the US Government, Inc. needed. They had to prove they could put a foreigner in office that would obey their every edict.

    They proved any rather ignorant man or woman could be put in office with the second Bush and that leading crime families, Bush and Clinton, would be accepted- or appear to be since the same bankers also control all major media.

    Most do not know, another fact that is abundantly clear, the actual jurisdiction of the federal, or state (and state created) governing bodies politic, or that the president’s has no lawful power to interfere with another country’s and its people. It is Congress that orders, but only as specified, by declaring war based on an invasion in progress or one that is factually imminent.

    Congress may also (with the other country’s permission) use a Letter of Reprisal (or Letter of Marque if on the high seas) to seek out a one that irrefutable carried out an act of aggression against or done damage to an American in a criminal fashion. It may NOT authorize by any other means an invasion of another land.

    (See Article I, Section 8, Clause 11, Constitution for the United States of America for the authority of Congress, including the above.)

    Anyway, it goes on and on as to the frauds now considered truth by so many. The elite are quite knowledgeable in brain washing techniques and they have sure done the job on probably as high as 90 percent of the people and all that believe the vote puts people into the highest offices.

    Folks, the real America is not the Ameri-Ka the controllers have created through fraud, lies, coercion, and a host of other crimes against America and its people. The real America knows it place and that is to have no foreign entanglements or have any foreign bunch running things or controlling them through so-called money, and for darned sure to never allow lobbying groups to control, whether foreign or domestic.

    The real America values freedom, human rights, the family unit, and all the rest of the mores the American people once held, such as not being criminally attacked by government (such as being coerced to pay fees, property tax, etc. that are as illegal as you going to your neighbor, holding a gun on him, and demanding one week’s pay so that you can keep using your own property).

    What was never valued – at least by the common man – was killing other people in order to free them or sanctioning murder, genocide, and the like. How I wish people would simply follow the Ten Commandments whether religious or not, and stop the BS of obeying rules and regulations, such as the traditions of men, that are coercively forced upon our people (meaning the common people of the world).

    Leave others alone to rid themselves of their government, which are in fact, no more tyrannical that your local county, city, state, and, of course, the leader of them all, the federal government.

    The world would love us for it but – I assure – the world will increasingly hate us as we allow bums such as Obama and his handlers to keep on as has been done for the past 40 to 50 years, maybe longer, as America was converted to fascist state controlled by foreign interests.

    • Jay

      Ed, I don’t speak for everyone here, but I would be willing to venture and say that most of the bloggers here, including myself, agree with you!

      It is without a doubt, that this take over, you so poignantly illustrated, could not have been possible without first conditioning and indoctrinating a significant portion of the populace through the use of communist propaganda and the application of subversive communist techniques, or, as you said, brainwashing.

      The “bread and circus” physiological welfare system that offered a delightful communist buffet, consisting of propaganda dishes such as, anti patriotism, atheism, relativism, and all destructive ideology that would otherwise be contrary to the country’s original characteristics, seems to have done the job.

      What people should know about communist take over, is that, communism does not wage war for take over of a nation with guns and tanks, but with subversive ideologies, with communist propaganda, with ideas and techniques that are applied for the purpose but to divide a nation.

      Why destroy a nation’s infrastructure with a protracted costly conventional war when dividing a people and convincing them first, that their political system and their moral laws oppress them.
      That their perception of reality and religious ideals are not only wrong, but destructive and narrow minded. That there is no such thing as absolute moral laws which are necessary and critical for the stability of a nation. That all have the right to reference only themselves with respect to what is the moral absolute.
      As a result, the religion of ” moral relativism”, created numerous social subcultures that instigate and manipulate the political system and society in order to maintain and impose their individual world view, thus creating further splinter and fragmentation of its society.

      Further, the nation’s economic system, capitalism, since its contrary to socialism, must be destroyed, but first, the nation must be reeducated and indoctrinated to believe, that capitalism is evil, selfish, destructive to everyone and everything, including nature, and that the more benign system of socialism which is all inclusive, should but one yield to it, must be viewed as superior.

      So why waste precious energy and resources to invade and control a nation through the conventional war application, when you can just simply turn its citizens against her and against each other until such time affords itself, when you can just simply waltz in, and make yourself at home?

  • jopa

    Thamera:Yes Soros did mention some jewiah family had been pointed out by the Hugarian family that had taken him in to hide him from the Nazi’s.Soros was a 14 year old kid at the time and you try and make it sound like he was the engineer of the holocaust.One of the best years of my life was when I was 14 also and it doesn’y mean there has to be any nazi’s connected to it.The Koch brothers today are participating in the destruction of America.Thank you.

  • http://google mike b.

    Denniso, Thank You!! I thought it was a genius comment also.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Thamera,
    You can`t argue with a person like jopa. The man can`t read.The answers can be right in front of him in writings or on tape and he will come up with a different answer that is being shown. I even let him use his own resource`s, (Wiki) I checked out what Wiki had to say about somethings and jopas answers were altogether different from
    those of Wiki. You want to stop the so called Dems? Just ask them,
    was Van Jones A Communists? They will come up with every answer made
    to man. They all know very little about who Obama hangs his hat with
    Jopa knows, though he will never admit it.He dosen`t want anyone to know how stupid he is, like most people who voted for Obama. These
    people are the most dangerous people in America and will be the
    downfall of this country.

  • jopa

    Charles: I just happened to type in Van Jones and Wiki came up with some thought another person had on Van Jones so I really wouldn’t consider them a 100% reliable source.They are no different than what you and I put in print here just our opinions.Same as Fox,MSNBC, Brietbart,Limbaugh etc.Is Van Jones a commie, well you and I will probably never know and who cares.Where does Obama hang his hat?You and your trick questions.I never saw him wear a hat.Thamera is Van Jones a Communist?

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Jopa,
    What you had to say about Van Jones, is your opinion. What I had to say, is not my opinion, I can prove every thing I said. The man has been caught on tape admitting he is a Communist. I have much more
    comming from reliable sources that also say he is a known Communist.
    Talk to the right people in Oakland Cal and you just might find the
    truth.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Jopa,
    I don`t want to talk about Van Jones with you any more.You won`t
    believe or dig deep enough about this man to find out the truth.
    You keep thinking the way you do and you and a lot of other people
    are going to wish you had listened to some of us Independents. It`s not only Van Jones, it`s a whole bunch of people that Obama has lined himself with. I have done at least a couple hundred hours of work in finding out about some of Obamas people, and the reason I did, was because he gave me a lot of reasons to. You can`t find out about a
    person in five minutes.You have to take the time and not everything
    will be bad about the person you are checking on. The bad has to out
    do the good for that person to be really bad. In Jones case, it does.

  • Obama Fan

    John Myers: finally he is showing his stand-up and fight attitude.

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