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No Politics In Perdition, Please

May 3, 2011 by  

No Politics In Perdition, Please

This won’t take long, kids. And it won’t be all that funny, either. Last night, as I was polishing a piece on an entirely different topic, the Drudge Report ran the headline. Then CNN began screaming that a Presidential address to the nation was expected for sometime after 10:30 EDT. Without seeming immodest, I knew it was coming. The President — any President — wouldn’t ask for a few moments of our time at that hour except under extremely unusual circumstances.

Say goodbye to Osama bin Laden, everyone. Say hello to Damnation, Osama.

In the coming days, weeks and probably months, the theories will fly, the credit will be claimed and the blame will be assigned. While most Americans celebrate the liquidation of one of the most perfect examples of globally influential evil since Stalin purged his last dissident and/or Mao issued his last little red book, there are other residents of our big blue marble who will react in an entirely different manner.

Islamofascists worldwide have already begun issuing messages of rage:

Oh God, please make this news not true… God curse you, Obama… Oh Americans… it is still legal for us to cut your necks.”

Of disbelief:

How can you convince me that all these years American could not kill or even reach him. Americans knew bin Laden suffered from health problems. Maybe he was approaching his death and they wanted to exploit it.”

And of revenge:

We regard this as a continuation of the American policy based on oppression and the shedding of Muslim and Arab blood… (bin Laden was a) holy warrior…

The first two were “man on the street” remarks. That last one is the official statement by the terrorist organization HAMAS. It should be noted that HAMAS has a stateside support group in CAIR (the Council on American-Islamic Relations). CAIR has released a statement ostensibly cheering the news of bin Laden’s execution; meaning either they’ve broken away from HAMAS, or the next jihadi reunion is going to be a little awkward.

I’d also be remiss if I didn’t point out that according to WikiLeaks, al-Qaida has promised to “Unleash a nuclear hellstorm on the West if bin Laden is killed.” Presuming WikiLeaks is credible — a debatable point — the War on Terror is far from finished.

But let me offer everyone a brief thought. For the time being, enjoy the news. A man who literally lived as the proud avatar of modern-day terrorism was hunted down and eliminated. Focus on the fallout tomorrow. Today, congratulate the men and women of our Armed Forces for forcing an animal like bin Laden to spend his twilight years running like a scalded camel. Praise the operators in Seal Team Six for flattening bin Laden like roadkill — without a single American casualty during what is being reported as a 40 minute (!) operation.

Osama bin Laden devoted nearly a quarter century to Islamofascist bloodshed, terror and mayhem. While the hunt took almost 15 years (bin Laden was the prime suspect in the 1998 U.S. Embassy bombings), in the end, Seal Team Six devoted less than an hour to hosing bin Laden down with .223 bug spray.

Today, bin Laden takes his place in Perdition alongside the worst aberrations of human nature. The time for recrimination, for bitter epilogues and politicization is tomorrow.

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • Jeremy Leochner

    A great and glorious day for our country. Personally I would have preferred Osama caputered so we could treat him like the common murderer he is and show his psychotic friends the true meaning of faliure in a court of justice. But I can appease myself with the knoweledge of Osamas inglorious and cowardly actions right up to his death and that his death is a symbol to all terrorists that the man who fancied himself a hero and self appointed agent of god was nothing more than a coward, a thief, a liar and a murderer and in the end he was traped by those who he harmed and couldn’t live up to the demands he placed on others who believed in him.

    • Mike

      Thankfully he was not captured. We would had to spend billions for a trial that would have been nothing but a dog and pony show. The same thing needs to be done to the groups of these radicals that are here in this country. Our military needs to be turned loose to do what they do best;kill the enemy. There are so many rules placed on the military that it is difficult for them to do their job. These rules are part of the reason for so many of our men and women being harmed and killed. The talk of not killing innocent victims is a joke. Anyone that is around these radicals are as guilty as the radicals themselves. Collateral damage occurs in war. The rules of not killing innocents gets out military killed and is why we lost Viet Nam and why we will loose in Afghanistan.

      • vicki

        “The talk of not killing innocent victims is a joke. Anyone that is around these radicals are as guilty as the radicals themselves. ”

        Interesting. That is exactly what the islamofacists say about the people in the world trade center.

        • Sutekh

          Vicky, Abraham Lincoln turned his military against his own people, just like Moammar Ghaddafy has done. Absolutely no one in the United States of America today, either Left or Right, (except for the extreme crazies, and we know who they are) would criticize Abe Lincoln for anything he ever did, including the suspension of Habea Corpus.

          I dare say that only the extreme crazies are going to suggest killing innocent civilians wholesale merely to “make a point.” That is what terrorists do. There is no such thing as “collateral damage” in a terrorist attack. What would be called collateral damage is exactly what the purpose of a terrorist attack is. Terrorists have no strategic or tactical targets. Their only goal is to kill innoecent civilians, including their own people. On the other hand, the tactical missions of U.S. troops have specific targets. The entire Muslim world knows who and what these targets are, and they know how to stay away from them. A Muslim who is in a post office in Mecca is perfectly safe from a U.S. attack. An American in a post office in Cleveland, Ohio, is not safe from a terrorist attack unless the U.S. military is out in force to prevent it.

          If a harmless soul such as Gunga Din wants to make a few extra rupees hauling water for a terrorist installation hidden in the jungles between India and Pakistan (or elsewhere,) he knows good and well what is eventually going to happen, and he has plenty of time to make up his mind whether he wants to be there or not and to act accordingly.

          The problem here is that the soft underbelly of U.S. culture has become so disconnected from any higher moral law that it cannot see any difference whatsoever between the assassination of Martin Luther King, and an assassination of Adolf Hitler. That kind of cynicism has made us such moral jellyfish and confused cowards that our enemies have no fear to attack us.

          Sutekh

          “Our country! May she always be in the right; but our country, right or wrong!”
          Andrew Jackson to John C. Calhoun, circa 1832

    • http://reformdc.com Richard

      If we are not willing to take the time and do the work ourselves for real change then we will forever be amusing pawns for them to play with. The founders of this nation have stated this in various texts.

      There are three Organizations that each focuses on one the top three cancers that are destroying the American culture. We need to stand together and turn Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness into laser beams.

      This site (reformdc.com) has these organizations listed as the top three ads. All three are free to join. All three require you to do very little work and may ask for a lot of work, like run for office. This is the only way that ideals reach a physically successful goal.

      An active role in government means more than news reports and voting. Like-minded people work together in order to attend meetings and see for themselves what there are teaching the children.

      If your thoughts include the words like can’t and won’t then keep on singing to choirs and hurling insults. Don’t need to ask “how is that working for you”, I can tell by the insults.

    • Jay

      Gee, that’s a bit harsh Jeremy!

      • Jeremy Leochner

        I suppose Jay. I guess I just have a strong dislike for people who send others to murder civilians, hide while sending more people to kill soldiers and more civilians and then dies while trying to hide behind someelse. No respect for the dishonorable I suppose.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        My mistake: hiding behind someone else.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      You do realise that bin Laden case would never go through the legal system properly. The case would have been dragged on for years.

      • Jay

        NadziejaBatki, I was being sarcastic. Personally, on the issue on wether the story that Bin Laden is dead is true or not, unlike some of the gullible here, I’m still undecided!

        • Bob from Calif.

          Bin Laden died in 2002

      • Jeremy Leochner

        I dont know on that. What I would say is I just think it would have been nice for the “weak infidel laws” or whatever he called them to be what did him in in the end. It would have been nice for him to be sentenced as nothing more than the murderer he was and show that no one can do anything, however tragic, that will destroy what we love and what we stand for. I apologize for getting preachy. But I will say at least he is gone and I can content myself with his demise at the hands of our troops after refusing to accept responsibility for his actions and I think it wonderful that our brave troops showed such honor in respecting the traditions Osama claimed as his own. Shows our soldiers and our countries dignity, tolerance and grace in victory and helps underpine how cowardly Osama was compared to those who he attacked.

        • 45caliber

          If we had simply captured him and attempted to try him in court, you’d have had every terrorist in the world trying to blast his way into forcing us to turn him loose. They would have hit targets all over the world with the idea that the other countries would have forced us to give in and release him. It isn’t worth the cost to have tried to keep and try him in court.

          • TK

            Exactly

      • Sutekh

        Any trial of a captured bin Laden would drag on until Obama or his successor had appointed an Islamicist imam or two to the Supreme Court. Then the court would end up telling us that we had some nerve going after bin Laden in the first place. There is a Democrat majority in the Senate, so it could happen. And, of course, fool Republicans, and fools who think they are Republican don’t have much ability to do anything about it, even if they had the motivation.

        Sutekh

  • http://! Angel Wannabe

    I’m not sure how many times, this guy can die, as much as gets noticed I guess._Osama is pronounced dead, DNA taken and then he’s dumped into the ocean??_-like good little sheep we’re suppose to take the GUV at they’re word._-Well You decide….

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/inside-sources-bin-ladens-corpse-has-been-on-ice-for-nearly-a-decade.html

    • Doc Sarvis

      You CAN’t be serious. This is laughable.

      • JIBBS

        I think you are laughable, I gather from what you always write, that you do no research of your own, and rely on what ever the government throws at you (a bone to chew) Spend a little time doing some research of your own. I find it so hard to buy into, that you always seem to have the answers and that you are always seem to think that your always right, how is it that you seem to take the government at their word?
        Do you really believe that the government never lie’s? And since you and so many others seem to have the correct answear, what is your source of information?? Please share.

        • Jay

          Doc doesn’t need to see evidence, like a dumb sheep, he will believe anything his master says!

          • Doc Sarvis

            I respect evidence but any thinking person will recognize this is a total sham.

          • Jay

            What is a total sham? The fact that we doubt the story is true, or that the news that Bin Laden is dead, is a sham? You really need to be more specific Doc!

      • Sutekh

        Doc, that’s why the biggest problem in a murder is disposing of the body so that it won’t be found. The only way that a death can be proven is if there is a body.

        That’s the biggest argument for the Resurrection fielded by Christian apologists — if the body was still in the tomb, why didn’t the authorities haul it through the streets and show everybody. The opposite is true, too. If Jesus were alive, all he had to do was walk back into town.

        I do not think we will see Osama come walking back into town, and I do not think that we will see his body, either. So another religion is born.

        George

    • TexasJohn

      It’s idiotic comments like this that give me a laugh in the mornings. What color is the sky on your planet, Angel?

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Well there Texas john, you go ahead and call it as you like, but quite Frankly,there is NOTHING you or anyone can say to make me believe, it took since 9/11 to catch this vermin, with all the technologies available today, ain’t no way in hell buddy!__me thinks YOUR the one in the clouds, and if you think this latest escapade is real, your the one who has been duped!_-NO BODY NO EVIDENCE!!!??, ONLY WORDS!

        • Christin

          Angel,
          I have to admit I thought it very strange to hear off the cuff that osama bin ladin was found, killed, and dumped in the ocean… is that what Arabs or Muslims, Islamists even do with their dead at death??? Have we ever done that with any other war criminal?

          I think it very odd that RIGHT NOW they have decided to find and kill Bin Ladin or at least report on his death and obama is taking credit, but isn’t BHO pro-Muslim and anti-Christian America? So why would he go along with this military strategy?

          I was wondering if BHO is trying to ENRAGE the entire Middle East Islamic population so they will amp-up their hostilities towards us, the Christian American infidels? This would give them the reason to create horrendous chaos and take over all nations for their Sharia law compliant dream… or nightmare.

          It is good that a man considered a terrorist mastermind is no longer able to plot jihadist murders on us or others, but I also did not rejoice with the announcement of Bin Ladin’s death…he will rot in hell for ever separated from God. It seems he has not been on the scene for some time and the Progressive Anti-American NWO Ruling Elitist crowd had been organizing in cahoots with the muslim Brotherhood the collaspe of regimes in the Middle East and Africa… to pave the way for the NWO to moe easily step on to the world stage.

          I haven’t watched the prison planet website, but will take a look at it.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Christian, that is MY WHOLE PROBLEM WITH THIS Osama death!__How odd, with all the available technology we have in Military & Science, and space, all the destruction Obama has done to the Country, and is currently on the path to campaign for re-election in 2012, how odd is it, that SUDDENLY we know where Bin Laden is, and we kill him! __Now this “is” ALL TRUE, then I think they knew where he was ALL ALONG, and were waiting for the perfect political oppertunity to do it!_

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            and BTW Christian, I didn’t rejoice in 2005 when I first heard Bin Laden was dead of kidney failure, or in 2007 when they he was shot, and I won’t rejoice now, at his third or fouth death, justice is done if he’s dead.

          • Kate8

            Angel – I’m with you. Obama’s approval has been tanking, and the evidence showing him to be a fraud is so all-encompassing, he’s just pulling every stunt he can to try to rally the goats.

            OBL was on dialysis and dying of kidney failure 10 years ago. People on dialysis just don’t live that long, especially when they live in caves and electric power is unreliable.

            This smells, and it’s just another heap of rot thrown on an already putrid pile.

            BTW, have you noticed how all the CONSERVATIVE talking heads are now defending Obama on everything? I can’t listen anymore. It’s outrageous. And they all keep repeating the same mantras over and over.

            How quickly most people simply buy into the headlines, no questions asked. And, of course, it now leaves the door wide open for more “terrorist” attacks, since the Islamic crowd is now, supposedly, proclaiming all bets are off.

            Who’d a’ever thought we’d get to this point. The BigBoys must be having some great laughs over how easily fooled we are.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            kate8, I don’t think all of us are that easily fooled, which is apparent on this site, there are a lot of like minded Conservatives(Libbies don’t count) on here!__Anyway, unless we are willing to run for office and try to change it, what we are left with, is forum b*tching and writing to our representatives, there is not much else left to do about.

          • Eddie47d

            Angel; Your video says he was put on ice and held for all these years. Then brought out for an opportune moment. That would mean that Bush and Obama are in collusion together.That would also mean that Bush didn’t want to take credit for his death and left this body lay there for a few years for the next President. All those video scenerios are flawed since no Republican is going to hand over a victory like that over to a Democrat. They never play nice so why do you think they would start now? If you say this mission wasn’t real then you are also saying the Navy Seal team is a bunch of deceitful liars. So which is it?

          • JeffH

            Angel, what raises a red flag to me is the quick burial at sea. I certainly hope and want badly to believe he’s dead and the operation in Pakistan WAS the end of Bin Laden but, as you and Kate8 have been saying, “WHY” should we all of a sudden start believing what the government, the POTUS and the MSM are telling us now?

            As for poor 47D, well he still hasn’t figured out that Obama and Bush ultimately work for the same people, and it sure ain’t the American people. Their delivery was different but “the end justifies the means”.

          • Carlucci

            First and foremost, why wasn’t OBL’s body strung up or drug through the streets for all to see? Oh, I forgot – we have to believe and rely on the “DNA evidence”. Yeah, right….

            Secondly, burying a muslim at sea is another faux pas. Their burial custom dictates that within 24 hours the body is wrapped in a cotton or linen shroud and buried in the desert, where the body ultimately mummifies under the hot sand. Many western muslims have adapted to using coffins and bury their dead in cemeteries, but the 24 hour rule is still the norm.

            These links are all good, but the first one (the nine lives of OBL) is a doozy. Listen to what the speaker says about what happened to Robin Cook from the U.K., who revealed that Al Qaeda is a DATABASE, not a terrorist organization.

            The nine lives of Osama Bin Laden:

            http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/1092.html

            Ex-CIA agent talks to Dan Rather about Osama Bin Laden, September 2001

            http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/744.html

            Benazir Bhutto tells David Frost in an interview in 2007 that Osama Bin Laden was killed by Saeed Sheikh, who was also responsible for the death of WSJ journalist Daniel Pearl and others.

            http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/242.html

            Pakistani students talk with ABC’s Chris Cuomo about Osama Bin Laden. Note his incredulous reaction to some of their responses:

            http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/397.html

          • vicki

            Just like the urgent need to bulldoze Mt Carmel, I am always suspicious of things that just have to happen right NOW and just “happen” to destroy evidence and protects the guilty.

            And since this announcement came from the same administration that “produced” the longer form birth certificate just before the report of OBL’s death and that very same certificate had been reported missing by both the democrat governor of the state of Hawaii and by people working for the state in a capacity to know, just causes all kinds of suspicion.

            Were they lying to us then or are they lying to us now.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Jeffh, HEAR, HEAR!, like I said, “No Body, No Evidence”, the Libs can think & say, whatever they’re elite masters tell them too.

          • Carlucci

            vicki asked “Were they lying to us then or are they lying to us now.”

            I would say both, because they lie about everything and they do it all the time.

          • Kate8

            Carlucci – There are informants who say that AlQaeda is an invention of the CIA, and OBL (who was ADMITTEDLY trained by the CIA) was a CIA agent.

            In fact, this whole “war on terror” is now said to have been in the making by the global ruling elite and their MIC, to use Islam to bring chaos and war, and their ultimate global governance.

            There are those who say Obama is a CIA operative. I wouldn’t rule that out, either.

          • Robert Smith

            Ohhhhh Kate!

            Obama working for the CIA.

            Don’t you remember that Bush Sr. was in charge of that?

            Seems to me it’s the extreme right who holds the CIA in their pocket.

            Rob

          • Christin

            WOW, Carlucci, those are GREAT websites…
            Why is it that that info is not made public and sent around the world three times already?!
            I will copy and send around to those on my e-mail list, Thanks.
            Keep up the great work.

          • Carlucci

            Kate8 – You got it.

            I just cannot and do not believe anything that comes out of D.C. Just like in Matthew 23:33 Jesus would refer to them as “a collection of snakes, sons of vipers”.

          • Carlucci

            This just came into my email account. It makes a heck of a lot more sense to me than the latest bullshit coming out of the district of criminals. Please forward to your email list so more people will be aware:

            http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/59.html

          • Vicki

            Robert Smith says:
            “Seems to me it’s the extreme right who holds the CIA in their pocket.”

            You are watching the wrong ball Robert.

            The proper axis to study political power is not left to right.
            It is 100% to 0%

            This video will help explain.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4r0VUybeXY

        • crystal

          I would like to believe Bin Laden is dead, but I’ve read maybe too many articles and too many questions are not popping up. Can someone answer this because I can’t find two articles detailing bin Laden’s death with the same information? If they shot him while he was at the compound, how did they get into the compound to collect his body without a serious battle breaking out? I’m sure the compound wasn’t empty. What time did he die and the exact date? What body of water was he buried at? When did they first measure his head in order to identify that it was him with this measurement? There are many more questions, I hope they can clear it all up.

          • Christin

            Crystal,
            Yes, this doesn’t all add up… how would our military men get in and out and take pictures and his body with them and get away from what would be a very protected place.

            I guess BHO and the DC Ruling Elites who think we are stupid sheeple thought we would fall for this ocean burial announcement of Osama like they thought we’s fall for the tampered Birth announcement of obama.

          • vicki

            Well these are the people that have to vote a bill into law so WE can find out what is in it.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU

        • independant thinker

          The one problerm I have with this is how quickly they said the DNA sample had been processed and proved it was bin laden. I have never heard of DNA being processed in less than 24 hours.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Independant Thinker, Its JUST ALL TOO CO-INCIDENTAL isn’t it?

          • Eddie47d

            DNA can be processed under 24 hours. Usually the backlog is so long a person has to wait days for it to be processed. Obviously they had the equipment and got it done quickly. The same with a blood test which can take several days because they are processed in the order they arrive. Exceptions can be made there also. This Bin Laden situation is a really big exception and had to be done quickly.

          • Kate8

            eddie – It had to be done quickly? LOL.

            More likely, since OBL’s been dead for years, it was done long ago, just waiting for a moment such as this.

            We live in a world of total deception, eddie. But just keep listening to the talking heads. That way you don’t have to concern yourself with thinking.

            Maybe that’s a plus.

          • 45caliber

            For once, Eddie, I agree with you.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            eddie47d, LOOK, I used to work in the Medical field, a STAT report means right away ( blood test or whatever), its usually done because someones life is in danger__when the person is already DEAD, WHY DO YOU NEED A STAT REPORT THAT QIUCKLY?????__wellll, my foot is tapping on the floor and I’m waiting response……..

          • 45caliber

            Angel:

            In this case it was done fast to insure that they had the right person without a doubt. I’m certain they KNEW they had the right person after talking with wives and kids – even if they didn’t recognize him. But this was too important a deal to simply sit on. And keeping the body around would have allowed too good a place for the Muslims to gather their hatred. It’s better to deprive them of that by dumping the body where they can’t find it before some of them start demanding the body to bury.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            45, Your response is at least believable!

          • Bruce D.

            45C, I agree. I think when the immediate threat of terror is over there will be more proof of Bin Larden’s recent death. I 100% believe that Bin Larden was killed a few days ago. I will be surprised if more evidence is not released in the future. Muslim terrorist are to be feared becuse they are willing to kill just about anyone including themselves. The government is right to dispose of his body quickly and claim it to be done in a proper way. Muslims have no problem killing school kids and claiming that as revenge. We have seen how mentally unstable Muslims are with the burning of the Koran.

          • independant thinker

            I did some checking and found that the common DNA test takes 5-7 days which can be pushed to 3 days if circumstances require it. Nowhere did I find anything that said 24 hours or less.

          • Cawmun Cents

            actually it is way less than 24 hrs…..but I wont tell you what my source is.

          • TK

            I am a cancer patient and as such I go to the head of the line at the lab for blood tests. Six vials are drawn from me every two weeks and the results are always back within the hour. My wife, who is healthy (thank God), had a check up recently and waited 2 weeks for her blood test results. They can speed it up when needed.
            If DNA testing really takes a minimum of 48 hours…maybe the DNA wasn’t actually completed at the time they said it was. They probably typed his blood and checked other markers and said “Good enough for now. Tell everyone the DNA matched.”
            In the end, he’s dead. Whether it was May 1 2011 or any of the other dates given…he’s dead. If he’s not…well, we’ll see one of those videos released…again…claiming he is alive and well and living it up in a cave somewhere.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Good question Texas John since it sounds like from Angel’s own words that Angel would be 100% sure the sky is brown and yellow if it fit the anti-Obama message.

        • JeffH

          …and you Doc, still believe that a brown sky is blue because Obama said it was…your point? You’re just at the other end of the spectrum aren’t you.

          • Doc Sarvis

            No, actually I am an Independent and proud of that.

          • JeffH

            Doc, I didn’t ask? If you walk like a duck and quack like a duck…well, you know the rest.

        • vicki

          If you live in the LA basin the sky is much more often brown then blue.

      • Amy Beth

        If a Democrat says the sky is blue then it has to be green. Deocrats lie about everything. Right?

        • 45caliber

          As long as the lie will serve, yes.

      • Jay

        Hey TexasJohn, you have a problem with people who don’t except things at face value and want to see proof? I sincerely hope you are not a judge you brainless gullible twit!!!

        • Carlucci

          I hope TexasJohn isn’t really from Texas. That’s an insult to Texas and Texans.

        • vicki

          Tis not as a judge he be dangerous. It is as a member of a jury that you should be most conserned.

        • Marty S.

          When Saddam Hussein-n-sons were taken out by the military the Commander in Chief Bush didnt mind showing off pics (albeit somewhat gruesome) of the trophies then. Just sayin. I guess even if its possibly false news it is still relatively good news these days eh?

    • JKO

      Angel I usually like what you have to say but this link says that the pictures are a fake. And, as an amateur photographer, I could tell it was fake. The expression on his face is exactly the same as the picture of him not dead, even down to the wrinkling.
      But I do agree that we need to see the pictures. When Saddam’s sons were killed their pics were shown, why not now with OBL? Maybe because we have a different president….?

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        JKO, there plenty of other articles on osamas death prior to two days ago. That’s the one I choose.__aside from that, if we as in America hane the technology to peer into to peoples homes with an xray trucks passing by, and start a fire on a boat thats in the water with a laser bean, why did it take 10 years to get this guy?_-I ain’t buying it!

        • JKO

          I don’t disagree Angel. I just have people pulling the Snopes card all the time and when you read the article you find it is not saying what they think it is. I want to see the pics as well. And whenever he died I am glad he is gone.

          • JIBBS

            It’s been proven that SNOPES has been wrong on more that several topics that they lay claim to.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Right On Jibbs! and besides its Liberal leaning as they mostly are!

          • JKO

            I agree with you both. I trust truth or fiction way more than snopes. I had a personal involvement with something snopes reported on and knew they were wrong. That is when I quit trusting them. But I do get emails all the time where they are used as proof of truth.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            JKO__ if i’m not mistaken, I read somewhere one of the sites, either truth or Fiction or Snopes had Soro’s involved in it?! I have to check.

          • Kate8

            Snopes was started by a liberal couple with Soros funding.

            It’s just another Progressive propaganda tool.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            kate8, Thanks, I knew one of those sites had Soro’s in it.

          • Eddie47d

            Townhall and Breitbart aren’t always accurate so maybe we shouldn’t trust anyone.

          • Kate8

            Well, eddie, there are journalists who dig to try to unearth the truth, and then there are those (such as Snopes) who go to great lengths to see that it’s never found.

            You pick your sources, we’ll pick ours.

          • 45caliber

            JKO:

            Snopes undoubtedly does report the truth most of the time. After all, most of what they check doesn’t matter one way or the other if they told the truth. It’s only on political things that I have to doubt what they are saying.

          • Jay

            Eddie Says: Townhall and Breitbart aren’t always accurate so maybe we shouldn’t trust anyone.

            Eddie, you may be wiser then you let on, but I suspect it was purely accidental. There’s a Chinese saying: “Believe only half of what you see and nothing of what you hear!” A good starting point, I think, for anyone who is really serious about truth!

        • Independent 1000

          I only have one question, if we had saved the body, could we do a reinactment of his last minute of life, and shoot him in the face one more time?

          • 45caliber

            Actually, one thing I’ve wondered is exactly WHEN he received that shot to the head. He was identified as the man who used a woman as a shield. The Seal show through her to hit him twice in the body. I’ve wondered (and I’m not insisting we need to find out – I don’t think we should) if the Seal didn’t shoot them both and then walk over to make sure with a third shot.

          • Cawmun Cents

            Or we could have played Haki-sack,with his severed head.

        • JKO

          I would be very interested to have that info Angel. I know snopes is run by 2 individuals that are left leaning. That is why they are my last resort and I try to find corroborating info in other places if I can.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            JKO, Kate8 said “Snopes” is supported by Soro’s”__I knew one of then were, but couldn’t remember which one.

          • Eddie47d

            Some of those sites say that isn’t true at all about Snopes and some say it is. So basically there is no truth either way unless you want to believe one liar over another.

          • Kate8

            eddie – Do you really think that the Snopes couple are going to admit that they take money from Soros to skew information?

            Think about it, eddie. How could a pair of liberals, sitting in their home office (or living room), possibly have all the world’s facts? And even more ridiculous, how could they not have their own bias, even if they weren’t being paid (which they are).

            I would like to think that only simple minds could fall for an idea such as Snopes, believing that it was the final arbitor of facts. But, alas, many, many otherwise smart folks DID fall for it.

            Does this now demonstrate how easily the human mind is manipulated?

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            kate8, I know a good friend of mine, was always tapping snopes for everything, but last week she sent ME the info in an email, they were tainted, sometimes ya gotta let folks find out on they’re own time. Hopefully if it’s really urgent, its not too late!

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        JKO, I actually got the impression of the pics on Prison Planet, were on there to show, the reality of a Photoshopped image can create, Especially if there is, theatrical Prosthetics involved!

        • JKO

          I agree. I had not been on the sight before, but am familiar with the “host” of the sight.

        • Kate8

          I heard last night on the radio, in an interview with a military ops person, that the photo circulating of the dead OBL has been going around for at least 2 years. As soon as that was revealed, it came down.

          You’ve got to wonder if the people behind all this stuff are really that sloppy, that stupid, or if this is all just to keep us in a state of outrage and perplexity.

          Psi ops, maybe?

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            kate8,(don’t know wether ya checked out the pics on Prison Planet or not but) the photos on Prison planet, are three of the same pic, in various degrees of photoshop, thats what I took them as. You can tell they are the same pic, the lips are in the same position in each pic!

      • Firefly

        The military has not released any official photos as of yesterday. That will come in time. Showing old obviously phony photos – well, what does that have to do with anything? According to very old Muslim tradition a body must be buried within 24 hours of death. If you think about why this is a custom I’m sure you can figure it out. While it is not part of Muslim tradition to be buried at sea unless one died at sea this also eliminates having his burial site become a shrine. In the end this was a fight between good and evil. Ultimately good will prevail and justice will triumph but there will be a lot of suffering to many along the way, and ultimate justice is not always in this world. Just be glad that if you are a decent caring person, devoid of hate for anyone, you will not be going where OBL went. The truly sad part is that the Law of the Universe, one of many, is that what you do to others will be done to you. This is why OBL and others like him are to be pitied. Killed, of course, but also pitied. Sometimes cutting off the head of the Hydra off will kill it but most likely it will grow another head. The war is not over, but justice has prevailed for now. By the way it is very difficult to fight primitive 7th century tactics with modern technology but not impossible. Four years ago information from someone who was water boarded in another country revealed the name of a courier that OBL trusted. It took two years to locate the courier and two more years of watching him to finally locate OBL. Those who criticize why it took so long have no idea what they are talking about. Bush greatly desired to catch OBL but it was not to be. I’m reminded of the American businessman who killed his wife and children, changed his name, and moved to another state, remarried and had a whole different life, and it took TWENTY YEARS to discover his whereabouts right here in this country. If the election was in the next month or two this would help the president get re-elected, but I agree with those who say it will have little value if the government and the FED continues to create inflation and depress the American economy.

        • Kate8

          Excuse me, but since when, when Muslim thugs kill Christians, do they worry about giving them a proper Christian burial? Or Jewish one?

          How is it that, with the capture of the world’s #1 most wanted terrorist, the priority was to strictly observe Islamic burial custom?

          Why are we forever scrambling to accomodate these murderous savages on every religious point, even to our own detriment?

          Sorry. None of this adds up. It makes no sense. Either we are complete wusses, or something else is afoot here.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            kate8, Well said & Right on Girl!!!

          • Eddie47d

            Because if we do it right they can’t complain about how it was done. Even a fifth grader can figure that out. That part cost little and accomplished alot.

          • 45caliber

            I wouldn’t worry to much about a muslim funeral. Unless it was recorded for release to the media, the funeral almost certainly consisted of some sailor shoving the body overboard with an anchor about his leg and saying something like, “Goodbye to bad rubbish.”

          • Kate8

            eddie – Please explain to me WHY we should CARE whether the enemy complains about how we do it? THEY ARE THE ENEMY, for Pete’s sake.

            All this nonsense does is make us look WEAK to those with whom we are at war. IT EMBOLDENS THEM.

            Eddie, this surprises me, even coming from you. You are even more simple minded than I thought.

          • JeffH

            47D says: “Because if we do it right they can’t complain about how it was done. Even a fifth grader can figure that out. That part cost little and accomplished alot.”

            I do believe even a fifth grader could have come up with a better reason than that ridiculousus comment. Worse yet, do you actually believe what you just wrote? ROFLMAO!

          • vicki

            Eddie47d writes:
            “Because if we do it right they can’t complain about how it was done. ”

            They can and they will.

          • Kate8

            What they should have done is wrap him in pork, and tell any others intent on slaughtering in the name of Islam, that the same thing will happen to them if they don’t back off!

            Why in the heck we coddle and cater to these barbarians is beyond me. They respond by thinking up the most vile atrocities demonly possible.

            It really saddens me that we’ve all been set up like this. This includes the Islamic peoples.

          • Cawmun Cents

            I think it can be summed up in one sentence.We are different than them.That is why we would do that.

      • Amy Beth

        The photos are still undergoing the photoshop process. The Gov. needs to make sure they get it right so everyone beleives that Bin Ladin is dead. Isn’t it a little funny how fast they disposed of the body so there’s no way anyone can ever check? Why Obama want to kill the one person that can help him destroy America? Hummmmmmmm seems a little fishy to me.

        • Kate8

          Amy Beth – EVERYTHING going on these days is fishy. Nothing is as it seems.

          • libertytrain

            It does feel that way for some reason, like 2 plus 2 is not 4 any longer.

    • Tom S

      Hard to get solid evidence he’s actually dead now that he’s “buried at sea”, what the hell is that all about? Supposedly, his head was blown away so of what value are photographs. I’d like to believe he’s finally fertilizer but am not stupid enough to rejoice in the streets just because bin bama said it’s so. One down, one to go?

      • 45caliber

        Tom:

        They said he was shot once in the head. From the front. His head wouldn’t have been blow away by any bullet I know about. The back of his head might be gone but the face would still be there.

        • Cawmun Cents

          A 3 1/2″ 12 ga. 00 buck,thats 18-30.cal pellets,could have made it hard for his momma to identify the mess that was left.Specifically coming from an Benelli M-4 Shotgun,likely choice of special ops.

          • 45caliber

            True. But the story I heard was bullets. Several other weapons can mess up a face too.

    • TIME

      Angel,

      Good post.

      It was stated by Barry and the media that “proof positive” as in “DNA” test that was a 100% match was used to prove it was OBL.

      Really how strange is that even the most {basic DNA testing} takes well over 48 hours to get results. BTW ~ Thats not proof positive by “Courtroom” standards, in fact it takes a week on the short side.

      How do I know this, Jim Watson is a good friend. I also lived just a few moments away from his Cold Spring Harbor Lab where all of this science was invented, Jim also aided me in work I did on DNA.

      So you Blow hards that think that OBL was killed on Sunday night May 1st 2011 and was tossed into the sea in less than 8 hours and they have proof positive by way of DNA, have displayed what mindless & stupid MONKEYS you are.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        TIME, I’m just not buying all this. Too coincidental, and I don’t believe in coincidences.

    • Average Joe

      Campaign mode now in full swing….who woulda thunk?…….Last week the Birth Certificate….this week Osama Bin Laden….I can’t wait to see what wonderful and amazing miracle Obama performs for us next week……Parting the Red Sea maybe?…..Sorry…all of this crap is just too convenient…anything to improve the ratings of the poser in chief….For those who disagree….your opinions have been noted and filed in my shredder….

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Hey Average Joe, You bugger, you beat me to the punch, I was gonna say the parting of the red sea next, all great minds think alike!!! :)

        • Average Joe

          Sorry Angel,
          I didn’t mean to grab your glory…I just know that you have to be quick around here….lol….yes “Great” minds do think alike…unfortunately…so do mediocre minds…as evidenced by the liberals.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Average Joe, Gotta have jist a funnin’ once in a while!

          • Average Joe

            Absotively and possilutely! ;)

          • Average Joe

            Angel,
            I am hoping that my comment “Sorry” wasn’t taken in the wrong way…it was meant as humor in response to your “bugger” comment above (as I was still laughing while I was typing)….sometimes translation from thought to written words get misconstrued…I truly meant you no disrespect…You always say things that I agree with…and I happen to love your sense of humor! ;)

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Average Joe, No offense taken! :)

        • Cawmun Cents

          I smell a budding e-mance…..

          • Average Joe

            lol…..nah…getting too old for that….It’s not that I’m too old to cut the mustard…I just can’t get the darn jar open anymore…..hehe

          • Average Joe

            However, we do share a lot of the views and values…that’s always a plus…

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Just a Lil’ fun cawman cents!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Why do the leftists ascend on this site? You would think, since they don’t like how we think, that they would stick with their own kind.

        • Kate8

          Nadzieja – Mostly, their paid (Soros money) to disrupt conservative sites.

          Some of them might have some illusion that anyone cares what they think.

          The good part is, for anyone on the fence, they leave no doubt about who they are.

        • Cawmun Cents

          To poke and prod us Nadzieja,to irritate us like a swarm of mosquitos,or a cloud of knats.But mostly to provide us with entertainment……thanks all you leftists out there in virtual-land!

      • Bob from Calif.

        Everything about this president is fake, except for the damage he is inflicting on this country.

    • Bob from Calif.

      Right on Angel. Some of these people need to do their homework, instead of believing the lies and propaganda that the MSM and this administration are feeding us.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        I’m hearing ya Bob!

  • http://www.diyyardandhome.com Dan

    There is politics in perdition. It’s filled with socialist, communities and someday, progressives.

  • Alex

    While obviously the credit for taking out the madman goes to the Navy Seal mercenaries, not one blip of an acknowledgement from Ben Crystal nacht that it took the Obama White House two years to kill him, while the previous Bush Regime, after promising to go through “every hole” in Afghanistan to locate bin Laden, giving up, and then redirecting the shallow Amerikan attention to an outright LIE of a war that has cost you fools over 5000 of your kids—not one little crumb of your rancid cookie?

    Hear’s the thing: Had the roles been reversed, and the 911 attacks occured during an Obama White House despite intelligence warnings, and Obama could not come up with the body and then sent over 5000 of your children to their deaths against someone who had NOTHING to do with 911 and then a Bush White House was on watch when they hauled the bastard in you people would be crowing your Reich Wing hearts out! Admit it, at least.

    The fact is this: The horrendous attacks of 911 happened during the Cheney/Rumsfeld Regime—despite prior warning—THEY were “on watch”, and failing to bring bin Laden to justice, killed a bunch of YOUR CHILDREN and scores of thousands of innocent civilians in order to take this wretched nation’s collective mini-mind off the tragedy they allowed to happen.

    Trying reading some REAL news, people!

    • Peter

      Wow Alex, tell us what you REALLY think buddy! But seriously, thank God for people who aren’t afraid to tell it like it is without the biased blinkers of the GOP on their eyes! Or the Dem shutters for that matter. Alex speaks the truth people. give credit where it’s due. You may not like much that BO has done, but you’ve got to admire this at least. If you don’t, you’re fools.

      • 45caliber

        Peter:

        It doesn’t matter who is/would be in the White House. The President has very little to do with it. Someone else found OBL. Someone else set up the plans to take him. Someone else made the attack; someone else killed him. All the President had to do was okay the attack – and if he hadn’t, it would have really looked bad. As far as I’m concerned, he okayed the attack. But that means very little when the rest is considered.

      • Carlucci

        Peter said: “You may not like much that BO has done, but you’ve got to admire this at least. If you don’t, you’re fools.”

        You must be kidding. I cannot believe you or anyone would buy into this “I killed Osama Bin Laden” hoax. Bin Laden died years ago. Obviously you didn’t bother to watch the 4 videos I posted earlier.
        People like you are Barack Obama’s wet dream.

    • JKO

      Actually this operation has been in the works for FOUR years, so both Presidents can have credit. But it is the military people who put their butts on the line, not either President.

    • JKO

      And I will say again Alex, Clinton was the first one who should have gone after OBL. Remember the first WTC attempt???
      And I will say again, Bush was President then I agree. And by the way things work out he is held to blame. BUT I will also remind you that he was TWO MONTHS later than any Prez in my lifetime taking office. I don’t know if you remember “the hanging chad” fiasco. Most Presidents begin the process of choosing cabinet members and becoming familiar with what is happening in our country in Nov. Bush had to wait until January (or late December) before the Supreme Court called him the winner. And Clinton made it very clear that he would not let either Gore or Bush be briefed until the winner was chosen.
      And did you mention that there had been several intelligence people that were concerned about “Arabs” wanting to learn to fly a plane, but not land or take off during Clinton’s reign.
      See I don’t mind the critisism of anyone, but let’s critisise them all.
      Maybe you should read the “real” news. Or maybe you should read all the news on BOTH sides. That’s why I am neither Dem or Rep.

      • kodster5

        JINX! LOL! We posted essentially the same thing at the same time!

      • 45caliber

        I agree. And Clinton was offered Osama’s head on a platter by Muslims who wanted to make up to us. Clinton turned them down – at least until everyone started paying attention to his love life – then he authorized a strike. The cruise missile on the camel, remember?

    • kodster5

      Let’s go back even further, guys. In reality, Osama bin Laden’s war of terror started even BEFORE George W. Bush’s terms. Remember, he was responsible for the attacks on the US Embassy in Kenya, et al, and they were in 1998. That’s Bill Clinton’s watch. Bill Clinton had THREE opportunities to get Osama bin Laden, and sneezed at every single time. This guy had 15 years of terrorism aimed at the US… the very nation that trained him to fight against the Russians in Afghanistan.

      • Firefly

        And don’t forget that when they heard the USA was going to retaliate against them, they laughed and said, “What are they going to do, sue us?”

        • Cawmun Cents

          A lawyer joke….ar-ar,give the man a pound of bacon!

    • JIBBS

      WOW!!, so tell us, what great country do you hail from?

    • crystal

      The first attacks were during the Clinton years and we’ve had problems with Osama since 1987. A little history goes a long way.

    • Tom S

      You liberals conveniently forget Sudan wanted to hand over Bin Laden in 1996 and CLINTON declined the offer. I cedrtainly don’t give bin bama any credit for the so called elimination (if it’s true). The cudos goes to the military, intelligence agencies and special ops units you liberal pond scum called mercenaries.

  • http://0 Anna G. McDonald

    It’s strange what some people think qualifies one to go to hell. The real truth is that everyone is qualified. To get unqualified one has to take the only path God has chosen to become so-acceptance of the free offer of Jesus Christ who atoned for our sins. How good or how bad we are has nothing to do with it.

    When I heard Osama Bin Laden had been killed, I did not rejoice! Not because I sympathized with him, nor did I doubt that he is in hell, but it revealed how few people really understand how to escape hell. I actually found myself crying for those people! Not only are they missing out on the real LIFE, but they are missing out on eternal life also. I’d hate the thought of spending eternity in hell with the likes of OBL!

    Sounds like a lesson in apologetics, huh?

    • JIBBS

      Why do people always bring God into the worlds problems? God takes no sides in any countrys problems, each country thinks that he is on their side. He sides with people who accept him, stop injecting to fit the needs of every of all involved, everyone’s view in different and let each find is way.

      • 45caliber

        JIBBS:

        Anne wasn’t bringing God into world problems. She was simply stating that God doesn’t particularly care for murderers – particularly ones who murders his own people as quickly as he does others. And she is right.

      • Kate8

        JIBBS – I would say, rather, that all the world’s problems are a RESULT of leaving God out of everything.

        God is NOT on everyone’s side, either. At least, not in the sense that you mean. He has made it very clear what we are to do to receive His Blessings, and He is an equal opportunity God if we follow His Ways. He will always side with those who love and honor Him, because those who do will love and honor one another.

        If people would be faithful to Him, we wouldn’t have all the conflicts that we do. Islam is a religion of hate, and I believe they are satanic. They’ve lost every war they’ve fought against God’s people, and they, ultimately, always will.

        If you are offended by God, He says He will be offended by you.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          Soooo true kate8!!

    • Cawmun Cents

      thats funny Anna,I broke into the mashed potater,and did the alligator…

  • Greg

    Alex,
    Take a chill pill buddy. The current occupant of the White House gets the credit, just as Bush had to take the blame for 9-11. Americans need to stick together when facing terrorism from abroad.
    It wasn’t exactly Obama who pulled the trigger. He authorized the mission because he is the POTUS. If anyone else had been in the WH last week (Republican or Democrat)I’m sure they would have done the same thing. WE, as Americans, wanted Osama dead. It’s done. Thank God for that.
    Now, let’s talk about fixing our economy for all citizens of this great country.

  • dan

    Just in case it’s true…I’d like to propose a toast to Seal Team Six and all the other folks in the servicewith a new drink I heard of: the Osama: two shots and a splash

    • kodster5

      Hear, hear! Raising my glass to Seal Team Six!

    • 45caliber

      Actually, I think it is three shots and a splash.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        45, thats called “Three Wisemen”!

    • Cawmun Cents

      4 oz.bourbon,4 oz.vodka,4 oz.tequila,4 drops of hot sauce……Atomic Bombed is the name it was given.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Cawman cents, Three wise men are Jack, Jim and Jameson!

  • Harry Sothern

    It’s obvious that Obama did the right thing by following what President Dush had started 4 years ago in the hunt for Bin Laden. Obama had no other choice, since he didn’t have a clue how to form a plan of his own. But Obama is a genius on taking the credit away from others – and that also includes the CIA and the Navy Seals.

    • JIBBS

      The hunt started in 2001-2002, not four years ago.

      • JKO

        It is this particular mission that started 4 years ago.

        • JIBBS

          The mission as a whole started in 2001-2002, old mission or new mission, it’s still the same…….the hunt for Bin Laden.

          • Cawmun Cents

            Actually Mr.JIBBS,it was ongoing before 9/11/01.He was being sought after(by our agencies)for nearly an entire decade before that. G.H.W.Bush was hot on his trail as president and as CIA director before that.

  • Harry Sothern

    Please excuse my typo error of President Bush’s name, in case anyone didn’t know who it was.

  • Raggs

    I find it strange that his body was desposed of less than a day after his death.. A muslim tradition?… Why would America honor a muslim tradition?… I heard that Seal 6 dosen’t even exist?

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      Raggs, that’s my problem, there is TOO MANY QUESTIONS on this!

      • crystal

        Angel, I agree with you. There are way too many inconsistencies and Obama (and the rest of our government) has lied on so many different levels about so many different things, it’s hard to believe anything.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          Chystal. Me too! As I see it, it’s NOT safe to believe anything coming outta Washington!

        • Average Joe

          I believe none of what I hear…and only half of what I see….I have better than average results of finding the truth that way.

          10 people can witness a murder and every story will be different…because each of them saw it from a different angle and as such…they each see something that the others may not have seen…Just an observation.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            AJ. At’s exactly how it seems to go, doesn’t it?

    • JKO

      I heard this too Raggs. My hubby and I discussed the burial as well. Maybe our military wants to be the better people. Instead of doing something like what has happened to Americans in other countries (being hung on display, dragged behind a truck, etc) our people took the higher ground and honored the persons religion. Muslims and Jews do have to be buried within 24 hours.
      I’m not saying I would have done the same, but it was a good idea.
      And I still want the pis released.

      • JKO

        sorry should have been pics

    • karolyn

      A former commander of Seal 6 has been interviewed and televised.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        K, a former seal called in Limbaugh today too, it may have been previously setup, but it was interesting what I could hear of it in the car, none-the-less.

  • James

    DNA test or no, I wont close the book on Osama bin Laden till I see a certified picture of his corpse. Why wont they show his picture? And, let’s not forget Major Hasan and the Texas massacre (44 shot, 13 killed), we would be remiss to assume he was the only muslim here, whom when faced with fighting his own kind, in the Middle East, or dying, he chose death. The only reason he is still alive is because no one else, at Ft. Hood, was armed.

  • Trish

    Only one reason to dump a body – You guys are so easily duped. DNA that fast – no TV CSI here, dumplins’. There’s a foreign website that reported his demise 4 mos ago..buried him. Not saying that’s true, but personally I see an agenda here for: higher polls, voter sway, blowing smoke to get away from bothersome accusations and trying to convince us he a true-blue American. Yeah right!! Read his books – he hates us and he hates the white from is mother. His mentor is a communist. He’s been caught in so many lies, it would be comical, but so many idiots believe them. Lies like, “My father fought in WWII.” His father was six yrs old, his stepfather was 7, & that’s just a drop in the bucket.

    • JIBBS

      I thought the same thing, that was the worlds fastest DNA test. Too bad their not that fast with murder suspects, think how much money these fast tracked DNA test “save” err, or hide.

      • 45caliber

        See my comment to Trish. The reason DNA tests take awhile is there is no need to rush them in normal situations. They don’t randomly take someone for a DNA test in a crime – they are already fairly certain they have the right person. And if they have him then they aren’t worried about finding him using the DNA info.

    • 45caliber

      Trish:

      You can get DNA tests that quickly – if the experts are standing by and ready to go. The problem with most DNA tests done is that they have to wait for others already in line to be done first.

      Actually, I’m glad they did kill him and dump his body. If they had kept the body some Muslim country would claim it for burial and make a big thing about the funeral. Further, they would make the burial site a holy place. We don’t need that unless we wanted to gather all the terrorist leaders in one place for the funeral so we could nuke the site.

      And I’m glad we didn’t capture him. If we had, the problems with trying him would be terrible – and the terrorists would be doing their best to kill as many people as they could first to “terrorize” the world into allowing him to go free.

      Even as it is, I expect to see a major increase in terrorist attacks over the next several years as punishment for killing their hero.

      • libertytrain

        I only heard this once on Sunday night before the official announcement and it was on CBS I think – they said that when osama’s sister died of cancer, the US Government procured her brain via some sort of court order to keep for DNA testing in the event they ever officially killed osama.

  • Independent 1000

    Thank You President Bush for setting up the policies and wherewithal to accomplish finding this criminal at some point in time. Oh yes, and thanks to the current POTUS for pulling the trigger.

  • judy

    President Bush did indeed put the policy in place to take out this terrible being. Clinton was too busy golfing (sound familar) to do it during his regime. Bush put in the order which thankfully was not recinded after his retirement and the Brave Navy Seals followed that order. Remember that President Bush was working with a Democrat filled congress so there were a lot of things he couldn’t get done. I do not agree with many things he did do but at least give him credit for the correct things he did. Thank God for our Brave Military people and their unfailing sense of duty to their country and it’s people. I have mixed feelings re: Bin Laden’s death-not that I don’t think it is a good thing-but I am a Christian therefore do not condone killing-turn the other cheek-yet we also read and eye for an eye-my spouse ( a navy vet) wishes they could have taken his sword and cut his head off like he did to our people! God Bless America

    • Richard Pawley

      Judy, no Christian favors killing but in war it is usually necessary. A few hundred years ago the French converted an entire tribe of Native Americans and they accepted the teaching that even self defense was wrong. They are all gone now, killed by other tribes who had no such belief. Remember that the only advice that Jesus ever gave to soldiers was to be “content with their pay”. He never said that soldiers should turn the other cheek, that was a general reference to when people are insulting you because you are a Christian. There are those who write on this site who obviously hate God and all He stands for, and there are others who feel that they are in no need of any help from anyone, God or man, yet God still loves them.

      Your husband would likely enjoy reading the 106 page classic paperback PRISON TO PRAISE by Merlin Carothers, a WWII and Vietnam Vet. It’s funny and amazing and even somewhat of an action thriller in how God works. You might enjoy it yourself. I once corresponded with one of the people in the book several times years ago. Another classic paperback you might both enjoy, is called GOD CALLING edited by A. J. Russell. Many books claim to be from God but this one actually is, and it contains over 360 different things that Jesus told a woman in England over a ten year period when she and her friend got together each day for prayer (and I presume tea), things like how the different churches have over-emphasized or under-emphasized things He taught, and what really counts, and why things are not always as we think they are, and how these two Christian women could change the laws of parliament without ever leaving their kitchen by the power of prayer, and much more. I’ve never met a follower of Jesus, regardless of what church they attended, who did not find value in both these paperbacks (both easily available on eBay). May God continue to bless you and all who read this.

    • 45caliber

      Judy:

      As Christians we do not have a command to not kill. We have a command to not murder. Therefore we have the right to protect ourselves and to kill those who wish to destroy us. You may have a personal desire to not kill but that isn’t always possible – or even desirable. I support the death penalty for that reason. Too many people are spared the death penalty and go on to kill again. The death penalty is NOT for punishment as many liberals insist – it is to protect society from further attacks by the same person.

  • crystal

    Oddly how Obama gets Osama during his re-election time.

    • JKO

      Excellent point crystal. But I am glad they did not wait until this time next year. Everyone will hopefully have forgotten about this by then.

      • Carlucci

        Yep. Makes you wonder what kind of rabbit they will pull out of their hat just before election time to dupe the masses.

        • Kate8

          Carlucci – Hard to say what he’s going to do next. I suspect that he will remain in office if that is the decision of the PTB. We have no way of really knowing if an election is rigged.

          If you think they care at all what we think, just look at what they’re doing in spite of our loud objections.

          I’m so disheartened to see conservative congressmen and other conservative voices now falling in line behind Obama. If you ask me, it can only mean that something major is afoot real soon.

  • FreedomFighter

    In my opinion:

    Time to treat Islamofacists and the countries that support them as “enemy of the world”.

    Give Islam 2 choices:

    1. Remove the radical elements inside your countries.

    or

    2. We will remove your country from the face of the Earth.

    As for America, this is no idle threat, America has the firepower to remove any country from the face of the earth. We Americans can exterminate these threats without ever touching the ground they live on.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • 45caliber

      Oh, I don’t have a problem in going after them as we did Saddam. However, I do NOT believe we should have rebuilt the country better than it was to begin with. I think we should have gone in, found him, and then left – with everything in ruins. And when we left, we should have told them, “Okay, we’re leaving. The damage is your payment for allowing people like him in power to do the damage they do. And if you allow them in power again, we’re going to come back and REALLY mess things up!”

    • Cawmun Cents

      I envision….somewhere in the Middle East a giant glass parking lot….with a 7-11 in the middle of it….the guy behind the counter,last of his kind…named Habib.They sell grape flavored Slurpees there.

  • http://com i41

    This muslim peice of s–t should have been put in a pig skin and roasted over a hog dung fire. Onumnutts sure proves he is amuslim to make sure the proper muslim proceedures were followed. Just like when the marxist muslim moron stopped the ational Day of Prayer and then brought in the rug scrubbing idoits into the WH, either had a van load of young boys brought in or a truck load of goats shipped in from Mexico, to party down for a few days! See how the military cut backs are starting to show with equipment failure as it did under another peice democrap s–t Carter.

    • Firefly

      And that would have inspired a hundred more suicide bombers all over the world. Think man, think!

      • Tom S

        And you don’t think this latest operation hasn’t inflamed Al Qaeda? They’re madmen, and will strike as soon as they are able. It wouldn’t take much effort to get plenty of explosives across the Mexican border by greasing a few palms.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          Tom s and Firefly, the Terrorists Muslim groups don’t need a reason to attack, other than the promise of 72 virgins.

          • 45caliber

            And the funny thing about the 72 virgins to me is that they are NOT promised in the Koran or the Qoran! They were originated by Mohammed’s nephew – who wasn’t a religious man or even a very nice person. He was kicked out by the majority of the Islamic followers after Mohammed died. He fled to Turkey and set up the Cult of the Assassin.

            He would bring in some poor man and put him in a stone cell on bread and water to pray for guidance. After a month or two, he would have the man drugged. The poor man, already half starved, would then wake up in a garden with dozens of women to wait on his every command. He got all the food he wanted, the best clothing, gold everything, and all the women he wanted. He even was allowed liquor and drugs! At the end of a week he’d be drugged again and wake up in his cell.

            He’d be called to the nephew then and told that the nephew had sent him to “Paradise” for the night. And he could send him there again – if the man would simply go kill someone for him. And if the man died in that attempt, he would go to Paradise to spend the rest of eternity there with 72 beautiful virgins to wait on him.

            Since the man had no watch or even calendar, he couldn’t tell the lies. So he’d jump at the chance to obey.

            And that is the source of the 72 virgins in Paradise! A big lie!

            What is even funnier to me is that it is believed more fully in Iran, the group that turned against the nephew, than it is almost everywhere else.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            45, I wasn’t aware of all of that, Thanks for the info!

          • Cawmun Cents

            The part they left out of the Koran is that the 72 virgins are nuns with ironwood rulers in their hands,and they treat you like the Blues brothers,in those old school desks,and knock you down a prepetual never-ending flight of stairs.Of course,compared to living in tents in the desert,making love to women with moustaches,and sniffing camel farts,it is really heaven.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Cawman Cents__IN CASE YOUR INTERESTED, I’VE BEEN LAUGHING MY AZZ OFF, SINCE I READ YOUR CAMEL FART AND NUNS WITH A MOUSTASCHE COMMENT!

    • 45caliber

      i41:

      I suspect the real funeral rites were made by some sailor who shoved his body overboard and said, “Goodbye to bad rubbish!”

    • Carlucci

      Good point. Most countries wrap the bodies of terrorists in pig skins and send them back to their place of origin. It is the ultimate insult. The Russkies did this to the terrorists who took over that theater in Moscow in October 2002. The Israelies hang bags of pig lard on buses.

      • Kate8

        Carlucci – It’s more than an insult. Pigs are considered to be unclean, and if they die with pigs they can’t go to whatever heaven they think is waiting.

        That’s why it was suggested that they put pigs on airplanes. They CANNOT die with pigs!

        It strikes me as really dumb that we don’t employ the obvious.

        • crystal

          Kate8,

          I know you don’t mean it like this, but I was thinking how one would feel sitting next to somebody on a plane who was holding a pig on their lap.

          • Average Joe

            Been there….done that…..oh you were referring to real pigs….sorry….lol

        • Cawmun Cents

          The PIGFAT BOMB!

          • Cawmun Cents

            This day brings a tear to my eye…my brothers idea of a pigfat bomb,is finally brought to the masses.Yes folks…we can render their buildings useless with pigfat.Then when they run out screaming Allah!we can pick off the ones that suit us and make the rest of em’ Catholics!…..haw!Disclaimer:this is in no way to be taken seriously by anyone ….the pigfat bomb is a figment of your imagination…..I just hope it squeals loudly like the Stukas did in WW2….OIIIINNNNKKKKK!!!!!!!SPLAT!Victory and ham sandwiches for everyone!

          • Average Joe

            We have normality. I repeat, we have normality. Anything you still can’t cope with is therefore your own problem.
            Douglas Adams

  • CJM

    We cannot be certain who died in that compound; there are sources that claim it is bin Laden while other sources say bin Laden has been dead for approximately 9 years (first report shortly after Sept 11 2001). However, there are reports of bin Laden’s demise in 2003, 2005, and 2007–so what year would definitely be up for grabs, depending upon who one wishes to believe. One would hope that the DNA is, indeed, bin Laden’s and not some fakirs.

  • 45caliber

    I saw an article in the Houston Chronicle this morning that caught my attention. They interviewed an Islamic cleric, a local imam. He stated that all the belief that Osama would go to hell was wrong. Their god (not capitalized) was a gracious god and didn’t punish like that so Osama would have gone to their heaven.

    Unfortunately (and I’m sure by design) there was no way to leave comments.

    However, in the Islamic religion there are only TWO ways to get to heaven. First, you can live a very good life – and you may still have doubts about getting there. Second, you can die fighting for Islam in a jihad. Supposedly Osama did die that way – but it was a jihad of his own creation.

    Since I doubt if a jihad of his own creation counts and because he certainly didn’t live a good life due to his constant plans for murder, you can decide where he ended up.

  • MaryLovesGod

    I am thilled to hear I’m not the only one who doesn’t believe Osama is dead! From the time I first heard about his “death” I didn’t believe it. It’s a lie folks! It took all these years to “get” him and then they dump his body into the ocean? Where’s the proof that it was actually him? Are we to just take the gov’s word and believe it to be true! I DON’T THINK SO! Everything the elite do is carefully planned! Obama needs this to regain popularity and to take our focus off of what he NEEDS to be doing as the so-called President of the United States. He has lied about everything to get himself elected and people fell for his lies hook line and sinker. It amazes me how people still continue to believe his lies!!! What will it take to open people’s eyes!!

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      Marylovesgod, your questions, are all the same questions the rest want to know, Welcome a Board!!! :)

    • Nadzieja Batki

      It doesn’t say much about the people who elected Obama and who will do so again. They are so bloody gullible.

      • crystal

        Well I know people who did vote for Obama, but even with the death of Osama state they will NEVER vote for Obama ever again (and some of these individuals are in their early 20s). I hope they stick to their guns.

  • http://com i41

    Jeremy the first poster here, you nailed that right on what a simple minded peice of goat dung this puke was. The only ones that think you were too harsch are the same idoits that think Onumnutts is a savior for our counytry. The only core values this pruple lipped jug eared moron has is to he is above everyyone else. If you want to confuse him throw a deflated bashetball or a bent golf clubs, both are as worthless as he is in real life.

  • rufusmin

    Don’t insult animals by referring to the terrorists as “animals”.

  • jopa

    MaryLovesGod: If your looking for some crazies you came to the right place.Welcome Aboard.

  • http://gunner689 gunner689

    You can bet your ass that gvt. lawyers are staying up nights trying to figure out how to try the SEALS for murder and war crimes and exonerate BO.

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