Mayors Against Illegal Guns Inflates ‘Violence’ Stats With ‘Victims’ Shot By Police, In Self-Defense


Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG), New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s pro-gun control outfit, recently rattled off a list of names of victims of gun violence at a New Hampshire rally. The event made headlines for the group’s inclusion of shooting “victim” Tamerlan Tsarnaev — one of the guys suspected of instigating the Boston Marathon bombing, who was killed in a shootout with police.

Outrage and public pressure elicited a next-day apology from MAIG, but the slip got 2nd Amendment advocates interested in the other names MAIG was using to round out its list of gun violence vicitms.

Turns out, the group has been using a list on the Slate website that tallies the number of Americans “Killed by Guns Since Newtown.” It’s just a list of names of people who died from a gunshot wound (or wounds) — not a retelling of the stories of their deaths.

The Washington Examiner noted Friday:

A preliminary analysis of the list of shooting “victims” New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s group Mayors Against Illegal Guns is reading at rallies for new gun control laws finds that one in 12 are crime suspects killed by police or armed citizens acting in self-defense.

The review of 617 killings found that 50 were suspects in crimes ranging from assault to murder, not the type of violence Bloomberg’s group suggests in its “No More Names” campaign to draw attention to the estimated 6,000 gun death “tragedies” since the mid-December Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings in Newton, Conn.

To use the Bloomberg group’s logic, one would have to accept that everyone who’s shot and killed by a police officer or by a citizen acting in self-defense categorically fits the description of a “victim” of gun violence. Examples of police shootings are, sadly, abundant; but it’s unlikely every cop shooting is a tale of bad cop, poor victim. Even fewer, perhaps, are the instances of reported self-defense shootings that turn out to be false.

As Nick Leghorn succinctly put it in a blog over at The Truth About Guns, “In the minds of MAIG, I guess being shot by a gun is like instantly being turned from a sinner into a saint.”

Personal Liberty

Ben Bullard

Reconciling the concept of individual sovereignty with conscientious participation in the modern American political process is a continuing preoccupation for staff writer Ben Bullard. A former community newspaper writer, Bullard has closely observed the manner in which well-meaning small-town politicians and policy makers often accept, unthinkingly, their increasingly marginal role in shaping the quality of their own lives, as well as those of the people whom they serve. He argues that American public policy is plagued by inscrutable and corrupt motives on a national scale, a fundamental problem which individuals, families and communities must strive to solve. This, he argues, can be achieved only as Americans rediscover the principal role each citizen plays in enriching the welfare of our Republic.

Join the Discussion

Comment Policy: We encourage an open discussion with a wide range of viewpoints, even extreme ones, but we will not tolerate racism, profanity or slanderous comments toward the author(s) or comment participants. Make your case passionately, but civilly. Please don't stoop to name calling. We use filters for spam protection. If your comment does not appear, it is likely because it violates the above policy or contains links or language typical of spam. We reserve the right to remove comments at our discretion.

  • independent thinker

    GASP. Bloomberg and MAIG lied. I am devastated. Tell me it isn’t so. Sarcasm off.

  • independent thinker

    GASP. Bloomberg and MAIG lied. I am devastated. Tell me it isn’t so. Sarcasm off.

  • vicki

    From the OP
    “Mayors Against Illegal Guns Inflates ‘Violence’ Stats…”

    Bring it on. They re going to have REAL difficulty getting past this easy to verify statistic.

    Since the tragic shooting of students and teachers in a supposedly Gun Free Zone

    ~300 MILLION Americans Didn’t shoot anyone. Not even by accident.
    Stop punishing the INNOCENT for the acts of a very very very few.

    Stop it

    • Nadzieja Batki

      But, Vicki, it is easier to punish the innocent 300 Million Americans.

  • Richard Gibbard

    Who wants to join my new group, Gun Owners Against Illegal Mayors? (GO-AIM)

    • momo

      How do you sign up?

  • FreedomFighter

    Another reason you cant trust anyone in government or lamestream media. America is a captured country owned now by foreigners and the owners don’t like the natives.

    Laus Deo
    Semper FI

  • JimH

    Figures don’t lie, but liars figure.

  • garygerke

    The NYPD have turned into Nazi thugs rivaling Chicago and Los Angeles police departments in shootings and assassinations of the general public.
    These paramilitary police units have suspended the Constitution when they see fit and lie about in court. They are effectively alienating the general public to the point of violence, there will come a day, not to far in the distant future, when civilians will start shooting these would be Gestapo thugs.

    Think about it….Indiana has past a law that under certain conditions it is legal to defend yourself against the tyrannical police thugs.

    • vicki

      Think about it….Indiana has past a law that under certain conditions
      it is legal to defend yourself against the tyrannical police thugs.

      Link please?

      • independent thinker

        I think I saw something about that a month or two ago but do not remember just where. I agree he needs to post a source or link.

        • mnkysnkle

          All you need to do is “Google it”. “Indiana law, it’s legal to shoot police”. And see what you get. I remember reading the article myself at several news sites.

          • vicki

            He’s making the claim. He needs to back it up with evidence. (You are welcome to help of course)

      • garygerke

        New Indiana Law Allows Citizens to Shoot Police Officers

  • Maynard Runkle

    The LA Police “lost” the evidence and had photographs destroyed when Robert Kennedy was murdered. The coroner reported that powder burns behind his right ear showed he was shot from point blank range yet the government stuck with the Sirhan Sirhan “lone nut” claim even though he had never been close enough o behind RFK to make that wound. RFK would probably have won that election and could have revealed thee truth about his brother’s execution by a frontal shot which made a huge exit wound in the back of his skull. Fragments from the occipital region and brain matter were exploded out the rear and sprayed a motorcycle policeman. After the faked Washington autopsy a small neat entry wound was revealed in a DRAWING. The official photographer’s photos were not revealed and he supposedly killed himself with a bullet to the right temple despite the fact he was left handed. The President’s brain was “lost” as it would have shown the massive damages contrary to the drawings.

    Since those successful cover-ups our government has been a series of unnecessary wars for war profiteering and oil deposits control and false flags like the Gulf of Tonkin Lie, the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty to allow the US to blame Egypt and come to their aid if needed. Don’t forget the Incubator Babies Lie, WTC ’93, the Oklahoma City Bombings, 9/11, the anthrax scare and the Boston Bombings.

    • Meteorlady

      Funny – JFK was executed less than 6 months after signing Executive Order 11110 which would have effectively put the Federal Reserve out of business. It also cleared the way for LBJ to get all his Great Society programs instituted which have cost us our freedom, our economy and have left entire generations with a poor education system, bad housing programs and welfare.

  • MZAZ86442i

    Back when I studied the Holocaust in high school,, I remember thinking, ‘How did Hitler get over 6 million people to follow along blindly and not fight back?’ Then I realized, I’m watching my fellow Americans take the same path.

  • Alan404

    Funny isn’t it how Mayor Bloomberg, while obviously guilty of conspiracy to violate federal law, gun law no less, remains unindicted, despite his admittedly sending “”agents””, people he was paying, traveling in interstate commerce, to make what were illegal gun purchases from gun shops, which are federally licensed facilities. I guess that with enough money and “”connections”” one can get away with most anything, all the while assuming the most holy of holier than thou attitudes.

  • Meteorlady

    This came from “connect the dots”:

    From the early 1970’s through the late 90’s “the number of handguns owned by Americans increased 160 percent… Yet over that same period, the murder rate declined 27.7 percent.”

    Up until 1968, there was no federal law to prevent any child from buying a high-capacity semi-automatic pistol, or a high-capacity military rifle, or a semi-automatic shotgun, and buying as much ammunition as they could afford.

    Availability of “assault” weapons was not a problem in the 1940’s, 50’s or most of the 60’s… yet no juvenile had ever committed a multiple homicide in a school until 1975, when a sixteen-year-old shot and killed a student and teacher in Brampton, Canada (yes it happened first in Canada). Four years later the United States experienced its first two and injured nine more at school across the street from her house in California.

    Five thousand years of recorded history, five hundred years of gunpowder combat, one hundred and fifty years of repeating firearms – and yet despite it all, no one can find a single case, anywhere in the world, where a juvenile committed a multiple homicide in a school prior to 1975.

    Common sense tells us that maybe this isn’t about the gun after all. Maybe it’s about the person who’s holding it.

    That means we have an issue with our society and with our families and our schools. We have issues with parenting and mentoring and bullying and the way we treat depression and anxiety. We have an issue with kids’ finding pleasure and solace by playing video games in darkened bedrooms and basements instead of running around outside with friends. We have an issue with kids’ spending hours’ on their phones and computers texting and posting on Facebook instead of having real, personal connections and conversation with others. We have an issue with kids’ having unfettered access to the worst the internet has to offer instead of the best that our communities can provide.

    We have a lot of new issues in America, but access to guns isn’t one of them.

    1n 1999, New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd made a claim about those who talk about entertainment violence that is still heard today. “Blaming Hollywood and the culture, the republicans’ tired ploy,” she wrote, “is a glib solution anyway. It’s much easier than doing the hard work of financing and mounting a campaign for meaningful gun legislation, which might take years.”

    Dowd believes that those who implicate entertainment violence are only looking for a scapegoat. The truth is – those who blame guns are the ones looking for a scapegoat. It is always much easier to look at “how” violence is carried out (that is, with a gun) than to look at “why” violence is carried out. Yet, in almost all cases besides those involving guns, that’s exactly what we do: We look at the “why.”