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Mayor Bloomberg Moves To Relax Gun Rules, But Advocates Still Unhappy

May 24, 2010 by  

Mayor Bloomberg moves to relax gun rules, but advocates still unhappyNew York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has said his administration will simplify the process whereby New Yorkers can obtain gun permits, reversing what gun rights advocates have long criticized as arcane and restrictive rules. However, his move appears to have failed to satisfy gun proponents.

The decision—which the administration explains is meant to increase efficiency by allowing for better investigation of applicants who might not qualify for a gun, while processing those fit to have them more swiftly—has been described as a reversal for Bloomberg who has been known for his anti-gun policies, according to The New York Times.

However, representatives of the Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) have said that on reviewing the new regulations they see the announcement as "a lot of flash and very little substance."

The program, which Bloomberg said will streamline licensing requirements, reduce renewal fees and speed up the application process, "sounds good on the surface," said SAF executive vice president Alan Gottlieb.

He noted, however, that there is only one handgun licensing office in Manhattan and only one office for registering and licensing rifles and shotguns in Queens.

"The handgun application fee is $340, and there is a $94.25 fingerprinting fee on top of that. This fee structure screams ‘for elites only’ because those fees are outrageously expensive for average citizens," Gottlieb concluded.
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  • JC

    As long as there is a registration of any kind there is an historically proven danger to the public from government itself. Perhaps Bloomberg has seen which way the wind is blowing and does not want to appear to be “too” unAmerican. Is there a civic election coming in NY?
    Bloomberg is merely posturing.

    • s c

      That’s right, JC. Herr Bloomberg is doing his overpaid parrot schtick – again. He couldn’t care less about issues that outrage conservatives. This is what ultraliberal progressives do – THEY LIE, while they expect the rest of us to think they’re
      telling the truth.

    • http://www.hotmail.com marylou

      Congratulations on your astute post!
      Agree completely. There’s a Constitution!
      We don’t require HIS permission!

    • James

      JC, Well said. In the Pennsylvania Democratic Primary, Sen. Specter failed to be re-nominated by his own Democratic party. And in Kentucky, Dr. Rand Paul won the Republican nomination for Senator, over that state’s governor. Both were unexpected upsets. Things’r lookin’ up.

      • Kanawah

        James says:
        May 26, 2010 at 7:38 am
        JC, Well said. In the Pennsylvania Democratic Primary, Sen. Specter failed to be re-nominated by his own Democratic party. And in Kentucky, Dr. Rand Paul won the Republican nomination for Senator, over that state’s governor. Both were unexpected upsets.

        ****************************************************************
        Specter is no democrat. He is out, and good ridence.

        Paul won the primary, and promptly bit both legs off up to the hip.

        With a little luck, we will have 2 new DEMOCRATIC senators next year.

  • Al Sieber

    It really doesn’t matter, I believe they already passed the U.N. small arms treaty.

    • airangel

      you can petition the small arms treaty

      While everyone was watching the oil spill, Hillary Clinton SIGNED the U.N. Small Arms Treaty, potentially leading to an effective ban on all privately held semi-automatic weapons in America.

      http://www.rallycongress.com/2/3244

      I signed it.

      • Steve

        Airangel;
        Thanks for the link. I went the whole route and sent the emails to my reps and obama. It would be good for all of us to send the link to all on our email list.

        Pres. Obama Rep. Walden, Rep. Merkley, Rep. Wyden.
        The U.N small arms treaty is just another “end run” by our Liberal government and Sec. of State, Hillary Clinton. Did any of us expect anything different from this administration? No. Have all of you seen the statue out front of the United Nations Headquarters in N.Y.? It is time to GET THE U.N. OUT OF THE UNITED STATES. They have done nothing but subvert our Constitution, and forward their “One World Government” agenda for years. Peace and prosperity through enslavement of the worlds people is their game, but they can’t enslave America as long as we have our second amendment intact.
        If you don’t support the 2nd amendment and the Constitution of the United States, then I will actively campaign against you in 2010, and in 2012.

        Sincerely,
        steve scott

        • airangel

          thanks, yes the link automatically pops up your states representatives and Obama based on your zip code probably and then you fill in the letter. My letter of course was smoking! Gave them an earful on guns, immigration and the Mosque going up by 9/11 site wanting Sharia jurisdiction (I don’t remember how many blocks or area they want their own jurisdiction)…you’ll need guns just for that when they try and force us to convert to Islam…told the Prez he’ll create another Gaza hot area right in NYC

          • Steve

            I’m a little disappointed there have only been 9 people sign it.
            Was the petition just started today?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            airangel,
            Thanks so much for the link!!! I was the first to sign from Ohio. That saddens me!

      • Al Sieber

        airangel, thanks for the link.

      • http://GOGGLE vaksal

        THANK YOU AIRANGEL ,IT SEEMS I WAS THE FIRST PERSON IN CALIFORNIA TO SIGN IT,THANKS AGAIN.

      • JC

        Done! Thanks airangel.

      • rwnut

        airangel…Just signed petition. 4th from Kaaleeforneea.Thanks.

    • 45caliber

      Hillary signed it. But it cannot go into law unless the Senate okays it and then Oblama signs it. Even then, they will have a hard time collecting mine. Right now the Senate doesn’t have enough votes to approve it. Even many of the Dems are against it. Let’s keep it that way this fall.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        45caliber,
        how do you think I feel? I just bought mine three weeks or so ago!!! what a crock!!!! i served this country for 6 years 3 months and 26 days and would do so again in a heart beat yet my government doesn’t represent my constitutional freedoms!!!

    • James

      Al Sieber, let’s remember treaties do not take precedent over the U.S. Constitution and those federal laws enacted pursuant thereto. If a treaty violates our right to bear arms, it’s unconstitutional.

  • C J Madden

    The reason Blooburg’s advocacy for the new regulations has “little substance” is because he is a man of little substance–who can follow a liar?

  • Bill

    The problem with the midget mayor of New York is that he is mad at the world because the city built the sidewalks too close to his anal outlet. He also thinks the constitution should be shredded.

  • Mick Russom

    Bloomberg is a scary statist authoritarian lunatic that is a gun grabbing America hating psychopath. Towels walk around with impunity under his executive purview, but law abiding tax paying US citizens are stripped of god given and enumerated rights by this psychopathic lunatic.

    The Gun Grabbing has to stop. Anyone who is a gun grabber is an enermy of freedom and liberty and is comitting treason with the power given to them.

  • Norman

    Only free people have guns. Protect this right{second amendment} at all costs or live as slaves.

    • rwnut

      Norman…HOORAH FELLOW PATRIOT!

  • Jim H.

    The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. If I can’t afford those high registration fees, It sure seems like a back door form of infringement to me. The Bill Of Rights is for ALL Americans, Not just the ones who’s mayors and governors allow to have them.

  • DavededumbbugydrvrNOLA

    Its The Election !!! ,stupids. We’ve already had one Pennsylvania Democrat Party Hack shouting, ” I’m a conservative! I’m really really really a Conservative” in order to suck in the gullible and Uninformed. Its not a surprise move on Gungrabberg’s part to try the same tactic,now the midterm elections have begun – and the writing is on the walls for the Anti-american, Anti-Constitution faction’s puppet candidates and incumbents. Heck,even the dimwit Harry Reid is setting up a “tea Party shill contender to run against in Nevada later this year. Norman and Jim H. ya’ll Are correct

    • JC

      Call everyone stupid…that’s the best way to make your point.

  • Sodbuster

    We have the usual bluster from Bloomberg and Hillary. Hillary thinks the UN will take our guns. Maybe from some but I will keep mine. We have big things coming we will probably need ours. We may need our guns as we have hordes of “who knows what” coming across our borders.
    Keep up the drumbeat-vote the ins out!!

  • mutantbuzzard

    Agree with Daveded, RINO’s will claim to have chainged their spots, as it is clearly open season on them, thankfuly there is no bag-limet on RINO’s this election season. Bloomingidotberg’s anti-gun actions are loud and clear so this pro-gun stance is highly suspect but welcom. How about some real support for liberty and the 2ond ammendment Mr. Mayor? Addopting liberal gun laws is counterproductive to liberty.

  • Jim H.

    A legal U.S. citizen who wants to own a firearm in NYC( a right protected by the Bill Of Rights), has to pay a registration fee(be registered)and be FINGERPRINTED for a fee. In Arizona the people there are taking flack because an ILLEGAL may be asked to show ID. I guess if it’s honest CITIZENS it’s ok to treat them like criminals, but not the criminals.

    • rwnut

      Jim H…..You are exactly right. REGISTRATION=CONFISCATION.They are trying to make it so expensive you cannot buy a gun or ammo. Look what happened to Australia and England. Every one had to register their guns. That doesn’t sound to bad to some people. Once everyone registerd,they then proceded to confiscate the guns. No questions asked! And you had better not be caught defending your property. Many are in jail for defending themselves, and property is awarded to the criminal.

    • James

      Jim H., the Bill of Rights is restrictive clauses that apply exclusively to the federal government. Just as the First Amendment’s “Congress shall make no law” applies to the five rights mentioned therein, so the Second Amendment’s “shall not be infringed” also applies to Congress.

      • Jim H.

        James, The Bill of Rights is for ALL Americans. Not just the ones who’s local governments sat OK. Shall NOT be Infringed, Means just that.

  • 45caliber

    I want to be able to keep a gun in my home for protection if someone breaks in. I want to be able to take my gun out hunting or to a range when I want to do it. And I don’t want everyone and his brother to know what I have or how I keep it. Any laws or regulations that changes that are ones that have to go.

  • Marjy LaGesse

    This is such crap from Bloomberg. More restrictions do not bring down crime. It only burdens legal ownership of guns. The fees NY is charging is ridiculous but everything in NY is ridiculously expensive. Folks need to take a gun course and get familiar and comfortable with fire arms. We need to teach gun safety in our schools as well. A safe society is an armed society.

    As far as Hillary and Start, what a joke. COngress will not sign off on this and even if they did, we will never relinquish our guns. A right to bear arms is given under the Constitution and we have an obligation to protect that right at all cost.

    • airangel

      That’s the problem, they are trying to tear down our constitution piece by piece with the “New World Order”…International Law will rule…these Anti-Americans HAVE to go. Bloomberg lies and can not be trusted as far as you can throw him.

  • RICH

    Someone Ask The Jewish Mayor………If He Thinks It’s Ok To Have Freedom Of Weapons In Jewish Israel And Not In His City’? Jews All Support Citizens Of Israel To Have UZI’S And Yet In America They as a “GROUP” Are Against Any “SECOND AMENDMENT’ That Is Proposed for American Citizens. I Wonder Why””””?

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      HEY RICH,THEY HAVE TO DISARM ALL THE ( GOYIM)> THE CATTLE SO THEY CAN ,ROB,STEAL,KILL THEM WHEN THEY WISH,THEY HAVE BEEN ROBBING,STEALING,AND KILLING THEM FOR YEARS,BUT NOW THEY WILL DO IT AT THEIR LESIURE.WAKE UP TIME AMERICA,WERE ALL BEING TAKEN ON A RIDE THAT WILL END IN SLAVERY,TO THIS BUNCH.GOD THESE CLOWNS RUNNING THE CIRCUS IN GOVERNMENT,ARE INSANE.

      • RICH

        VAKSAL’ YES I KNOW THIS…..I WAS MAKING A POINT…..SCHEMER (SCHUMER)LAUTENBERG,BOXER,FEINSTEIN,LEVIN,LIBERMAN,FEINGOLD,LOWEY,ACKERMAN,And All Their Cousins,,!,,,,,,,,,Are ALL Anti-Second Amendment For American Citizens…BUT………Support Their Cousins In Israel For Having ALL The Weapons They Need To Kill Innocent Palestinian’s””! AMEN’!

    • rwnut

      Rich…..They don’t want you to be able to rise up and defend yourself against a Totalitarian Regime. First and Second Amendments are wiped out by any dictator. Uninformed and Unarmed.Yo Mama Obama is now working to control the press and take your guns.By the way,he has said he want’s to control the internet.Be extremely wary.Keep some hidden!

  • ONTIME

    Bloomberg is a facist, a lib in the disguise of a unatractive RINO, why NY has this man in a leadership position is their own fault and are getting what they voted for.

  • Don Coe

    I have been an activist for the NRA for more than ten years.When I campaigned against the phony group, Mayors against Illegal Guns,I scanned down their website and found Wallmart,as one of their major supporters.I urge every one to e-mail Wallmart to question why they sell guns,ammo and hunting licenses,but support such a radical agenda.When I contacted my local mayors about this they either would’nt face me, or had a lame excuse that they were ask to join, but did’nt know what it was about. I think every one who shops at Wallmart should boycott them until they take their name off this website.

    • Steve

      That’s a shocker. Apparently WalMart doesn’t want my business anymore.
      Thanks Don, I will be writing them a letter as soon as I leave here.

  • http://GOGGLE vaksal

    WHY NOT PUT GUN LAWS TO THE BALLOT,THEN PEOPLE LIKE BLOOMBERG,CLINTON,AND THE MAYOR OF CHICAGO,ALL WOLVES IN SHEEPS CLOTHING WILL GET THE POINT,AND THAT IS DONT MESS WITH THE ( UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION) BY PASSING LAWS THAT HAVE ABRIDGED THE NORMAL PEOPLES RIGHTS TO OWN WEAPONS,THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN EVER GIVEN THOSE RIGHTS TO INFRINGE ON ANYONES 2ND ADMEN.RIGHTS,WHO DO THESE PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE TO EVEN SIGN ANY AMERICANS RIGHTS AWAY,PAY FOR THAT RIGHT, WHAT NONSENSE,HOW ABOUT THE MURDEROUS FELONS,WILL THEY GET REGISTERED,SO JUST ANY GUN CONTROL IS MUTE,AND IN THE END THESE MORONS IN POWER WILL SEE THE DAY THAT THESE VERY ACTIONS OF GUN CONTROL WILL PIT EVERY AMERICAN IN THIS NATION AGAINST THESE USERPERS OF THIS NATIONS LAWS,THEY ARE TRAITORS AND NO LESS THROW THEM OUT DONT VOTE FOR THIS VERMIN IN THE NEXT ELECTION,IF THEY SUPPORT GUN CONTROL,WEATHER DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN,SACK THEM ALL VOTE FOR ANYONE ,BUT DONT SUPPORT THEM WITH YOUR MONEY ,TIME,OR BALLOT VOTE,THEY SHOULD ALL BE IN PRISON.

    • rwnut

      vaksal….HOORAH!

  • chuck b

    rich

    if you research axelrod, emanual, bloomberg their family’s all immigrated from the soviet union and have communist backgrounds, this is representative of the current admin. its hard to figure with barry being a muslim, however, they most likely use barry as a tool and he’s not smart enough to understand what is happening or he has converted to communism. did the soviets have gun control, you bet!!

    • rwnut

      chuck b…..And you can bet you’re -ss the commie in the White House has read Hugo(bull frog)Chavez’s book that he tried to pass to him at their meeting on tv last year.Chavez new exactly that Hussien O was a Commie socialist.Chavez’s only mistake was that he put Hussien O. on the spot on national tv. Hussien was not ready to openly declare it. I predict he will declare it soon.

  • http://GOGGLE vaksal

    ANOTHER PUPPET PRESIDENT,WELCOME TO THE (NEW WORLD ORDER) CHAOS. THEY ALL MUST HAVE FLUNKED AMERICAN HISTORY,AND MAJORED IN COMMUNIST HISTORY.NEO-COM LEFT WING CRIMINALS AT BEST.WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO DOING THE WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE,THE VOTING PUBLIC?

    • rwnut

      vaksal….Remember how the healthcare bill was passed? That’s what happens to the Will of the people by a dictator.

  • http://gmail i41

    Onumnutt will use an executive order so it doesn’t have to be approved by the house and senate! Just like the muslim did to spend over 20 million to bring in Hamas and other terrorist muslims. I know that becaused I called my Federal representives and started chewing when I was told Onumnut got the move out of the Stat Department, which Hillary is the head of!

  • Marilyn

    I read an interesting comment today that if they (the government) gets gun control into this country, it will lead to total destruction of the Constitution, which includes gun rights! These are being infringed upon a little bit more each year! Our Muslim president will see to this soon! I have a lot of family and friends, as well as my self, which have declared that they will have to find them first and they may find the wrong end if they persist in this stupidity! I am very old and I never dreamed that this country would ever find itself in such a mess so quickly as BO has managed in about 3 months time. Now after a little more than a year the people are at last beginning to wake up. I fought him for almost a year before he was elected because the signs were all there. Primarily the never ending lies that he told and tells! I could not convince, intelligent, caring people, in my own family that BO was not only NOT AN AMERICAN but a communist! Research him and see for yourself!!! The Clintons tried and failed at what BO has accomplished! Research that also!

  • http://espionageaction-actionadventure.blogger.com Stephen Russell

    Maybe NY needs some of CA illegals to stir up the pot some for OK concealed carry in NYC.
    Then see things change.
    Or 9-11 2 in NY?
    But not on 9-11.

    Hey mayor scrap that Mosque in NYC near 9-11 site or lose TOURISM dollars.
    Your call Mayor.

  • http://GOGGLE vaksal

    IT SEEMS THE STATE DEPT. HAS BEEN ASLEEP AS THE MAYOR OF NEW YORK,A MOSQUE IN NEW YORK CALLING FOR THE RIGHT TO IMPOSE SHARA LAWS,GOD WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE THAT WOULD LET ANYONE IN THIS NATION WITHOUT REALLY CHECKING THEM,MAKES A PERSON THINK THE FOXES ARE GUARDING THE HEN HOUSE AND THEY WANT GUN CONTROL,SOMETHING STINKS,LET CHAOS RULE AND YOU GET MARSHAL LAW AND THERE GOES THE CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS AND WITH THAT ANY RIGHTS WHAT SO EVER,SMELL THE STINK,IT LOOKS LIKE THE DECK IS STACKED AND EVERY AMERICAN OF EVERY RACE IS HEADING FOR THE BIG SHOOMZE,SO LOOK OUT WHEN SOMEONE TELLS YOU THE ARE GOING TO SELL YOU THE RIGHT TO OWN A WEAPON,IT IS NOT THEIRS TO SELL IN THE FIRST PLACE.

  • Hey Look At This

    http://www.rallycongress.com/2/3244

    In case any of you missed it here is a link Airangel posted above.
    As you probably know by now Sec. of State Hildegard Clinton signed the United Nations Small Arms Treaty. There is a petition at this link that you can sign telling Obama you DO NOT SUPPORT THIS TREATY! At the same site you can also send FREE emails to Obama and your individual senators telling them that they better NOT SUPPORT ratification of this treaty or you will be campaigning AGAINST them in 2010 or 2012 and you will be voting for their opponent.
    The site is very user friendly, and even sorts your senators for you from your zip code. It only takes a few minutes and your last name is NOT posted on the site, only your initial. This is probably our ONLY chance to stop this. Please take the time to do it, and please pass this on to your friends and family on your email list….

  • http://lowellmassey@gmail.com lowell massey

    hey america wake up before all of rights and freedoms are lost forever! here is some of the nonsense that is up for passage. outlawing firearms,granting amnesty for illegal aliens,outlawing our flag in schools,removing ten commandments from government office’s. there are so many of them it makes my head spin. if we don’t stand up and fight for our freedoms and rights this adminstration and the UN will do away with them. when this happens they will impose thier new world order transforming us into a flock of blind sheep. now is the time to rally for our country! GOD BLESS AMERICA

  • Joe Doakes

    Bloomberg sees the writing on the wall and is preparing to defend his blatant abuse of the second amendment. I’m a New Yorker. I have 5 pistol permits including a New York one. It is no good in New York City. If I step one inch over a line on a map with my concealed weapon I’m a criminal and will face a tougher penalty than a drug pusher poisoning our children or a rapist that rapes our daughters. Bloomberg, and those of his ilk, live in an insulated world free from the risks we face. I carry a pistol to defend my life and innocent life within 50′ of it and only if the defense is justified. After 9/11 I got the hell out of NYC after I realized my personal safety is not on their radar. If we win the Chicago gun case, NYC will be next.

  • Joe Doakes

    I should also note I’ve got this idiot for a neighbor now. You can’t escape these people. They should start their own country or move to Switzerland.

  • Robert Cassidy

    November elections will be the first and last opportunity for all legitimate American citizens evict a decisive share of subversives from office ..If that fails , expect some nasty possibilities …eg…police state dictatorship…..economic collapse …..civil war ….balkanization of the USA into various affinity republics
    Throughout history the maledictions of unjust, corrupt, oppressive and wasteful governments have led to similar consequences .

    • rwnut

      Robert Cassidy….You’re right on every point.I believe the Big O is biding his time.When the time is right and the right event occurs,he will declare himself dictator.What’s to stop him,but a civil war? The communist/socialist Obama will declare the constitution null and void. Remember how the healthcare bill was passed? Remember also what side said,”Never let a crisis go to waste”.

  • rwnut

    I heard on Fox news that there is a Tea Party member running against Ol’ Shifty Eye Shumer. He is a former CIA agent and Veteran,but I can’t recall his name. Mike Bloomers and Shifty Eye Shumer are two of the sneakiest Snakes on earth. He’s trying to go for the NRA and other gun owner vote. Clinton admitted again on tv last week that the NRA cost him the election.Bloomers knows what’s coming down!

  • rwnut

    Want to see what happens in a sanctuary city for illegals aliens?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FM-ezylcAU

    Watch it to the end.It’s not very long.

  • Kanawah

    The second says “To insure a well regulated militia……” AKA National Guard, beyond that, all fire arms are fair game. The assault rifle ban should be reinstated, PERMINENTLY.

    • rwnut

      Kanewahaha…..The Supreme Court has said more than once that “the people” referred to in the 2nd,4th,9th,and10th Amendments means individuals.US vs. Verdugo-Urquidez,494,U.S.259 (1990).Why don’t you try concentrating on criminals who kill people,instead of trying to destroy the Constitution and disarm the law-abiding citizen? Cars kill people,Islami’s in airplanes kill people,bombs in shoes and matches kill people.Ban them all,Kanewahaha. Your intentions are the same as Hitler’s Castro’s,Stalin’s,Idi Amin’s,Pol pot’s,Kim Jong Il’s,Qaddafi’s,Mao Tse-tung’s,Clinton’s,and Obama’s,disarm the people for the leftwing commie takeover. What part of “Militia” and “the people” don’t you understand? With you it’s not about understanding or the Constitution, it’s about your little anti-American,screwball agenda.

    • Jim H.

      Kanawah, Use the definition of militia as it was when the constitution was written, not the modern definition. The National Guard was formed in the early 1900′s, not the late 1700′s. That might give you more insight of what the Founding Fathers meant.

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