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Islam Is Afire While Obama Fiddles

February 2, 2011 by  

Islam Is Afire While Obama Fiddles

“Is that a fiddle I hear there somewhere drifting through those fired dry sands?”–Raphie Frank

Another week with Barack Obama as U.S. President and radical Islam grows even stronger. Egypt, America’s largest and most important ally in the Middle East, is aflame as revolutionary forces marched and even burned President Hosni Mubarak’s Ruling Party headquarters.

As I write to you the streets of Cairo are ablaze following a week of mass demonstrations in which thousands of people have attacked the police and ignored curfews. The people want to end the 30-year dictatorial rule of Mubarak, but radical elements are quickly bending the protests their way in an all out effort to turn the land of the Pyramids into the home of martyrs.

If the extremists in Egypt can do what they did in Iran, then the Middle East — home to two-thirds of the world’s oil reserves — will turn to Islamic law.

Egypt sits at the crossroads between Europe and the Middle East. Not only does it have the largest Arab population but also the strongest conventional army in the region. Since the fall of the Shah in Iran, Egypt has provided the glue that held the Middle East together. It was Egypt that was the first Arab nation to recognize Israel and it is always Cairo at center stage in any Middle East peace process.

Political analyst Simeon Mitropolitski sums up what is at stake:

“Egypt offers a completely different political and social model, something between the Iranian and the Taliban versions of Islamic state. In 1954 this organization was banned and shortly afterward it was accused of trying to assassinate President Nasser, a champion of alternative secular social and political model.”

Regardless of what is at stake, Egypt is burning and the Obama administration has once again been caught off guard.

On Monday, Washington was desperately trying to fly more than 2,400 U.S. citizens out of Egypt. It appears that no contingency plan was made for this revolt. Again, American intelligence services appear to be anything but intelligent.

So far the State Department has put a remarkable positive spin on events, just like they did when the Shah was toppled. But wishful thinking isn’t going to create a new Egypt built on Thomas Jefferson’s ideals. It is far more likely that America and the world will have to deal with an Islamic-ruled Egypt, if not now then in a few short years.

One of the most immediate worries is the Suez Canal, a waterway that opens into the Red Sea and which is a choke point for much of the world’s oil supply. Egypt’s primary export is cotton. The world isn’t going to fall apart because of a cotton shortage. Yet whoever rules Egypt also has their hands on the Suez spigot. This could have an immediate short-term impact on oil deliveries — the price of crude has surged more than $6 per barrel in just the past two trading days.

Rioting in Cairo could spread fast. Many businesses have shut down operations. Egypt’s stock market (EGX) has been closed after it fell 16 percent last week.

Outside of Egypt the financial center of the Middle East, Abu Dhabi, has been hit the hardest. On the Dubai exchange shares plummeted to a one-year low. If unrest grows and the Suez Canal closes it won’t be some far off stock exchange falling, it will be the New York Stock Exchange. But there is something far more worrisome than a 25 percent correction in the Dow Jones Industrial Average or even $5 per gallon gasoline. Rather think of the ramifications if Egypt, a center post of America’s war on terror, falls into the hands of the enemy.

Forget Robert McNamara’s incorrect domino theory that was projected for Southeast Asia in the 1960s. If Egypt crumbles there really will be a cascade of giant dominoes headed straight for the West and riding atop each one of them will be a crazed terrorist with a bomb strapped to his back.

It is still too soon to say what will arise from this revolt, but it could center on the growing power of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood (MB). According to the Business Insider:

“The MB would be calamitous for U.S. security. What’s more, their current defenders don’t really argue that point, as much as they seem to dismiss it as not important or something we can live with. The MB supports Hamas and other terrorist groups, makes friendly noises to Iranian dictators and torturers, would-be uncertain landlords of the critical Suez Canal, and opposes the Egyptian-Israeli agreement of 1979, widely regarded as the foundation of peace in the Mideast. Above all, the MB would endanger counterterrorism efforts in the region and worldwide. That is a very big deal.”

This leaves the United States at the mercy of another Iranian crisis, but this time around is far worse. 

True, Iran was a major oil exporter and Egypt is not. However the world was consuming only half as much oil when the Shah fell compared to today. More importantly, during the Iranian revolution Saudi Arabia had enough spare oil production capacity to replace all of Iran’s oil exports. In fact, the House of Saud increased oil output from 8 million barrels per day to more than 12 million barrels per day. That is something that Saudi Arabia can no longer do.

If another Islamic Revolution gains traction in Egypt how much longer will there even be a Saudi Arabia as we know it? Egypt has been a great counter-balance against extremism in the Middle East for almost 40 years. It has provided critical support to Arab oil producers like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and it has been the primary reason there has been peace between Israel and the Arab world.

The Middle East is a bigger tinderbox than ever and once again Obama has shown that, under his leadership, the world continues to become a less safe place. Is it his fault that Egypt is burning? No. But it is his fault that he and his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, didn’t see it coming and weren’t able to force Mubarak to reform his dictatorial rule before it was too late. Now the world will have to pay the consequences.

Action To Take

Double down on your oil investments. Canadian oil sands can only benefit from the trouble that is brewing in the Middle East. If you have not yet bought shares in Suncor Energy (NYSE, SU, $41) I urge you to do so. The price of the stock has doubled in the past two years. I expect that it could double again over the next year.

Yours in good times and bad,

–John Myers
Myers’ Energy & Gold Report

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • s c

    America’s foreign policy chickens are coming home to roost – again. America’s foreign policy wizards ‘gave’ us Mubarak a long time ago. They knew they could play him like a cheap violin (as long as American taxpayers foot the bills). When it came time to dump Mubarak and create another crisis, our “leaders” could rewrite history, be in a position to advise the prez and Congress and expect another generation of Americans to bend over and smile.
    It’s deja vu all over again, so to speak. This time around, we’re stuck with a tap-dancing wunderkind in the White House. Does anyone out there really think this used-up dictator plus an inept, untalented wunderkind scenario wasn’t orchestrated many years ago?
    The temptation to re-write history before it happens is an old fact-of-life in Washington. Some call it foreign policy. Some call it perpetual elitism. Whatever you call it, America gets hosed again.

    • RPH1045

      You need not to worry our great president Oduma8s had this done on Egypt and all the rest of those middle east countries. Its in his interest so he can destroy Israel and raise oil prices for his cap & tax on oil so he will have the money to run his World order Oduma-ss wants to rule the world HE IS A REAL NUT

      • skip

        Our Middle East policy for the last 60 some years has been uni-dimensional. Obama has been in office just two years, and there are 60 years of blunders and supporting non-popular governments to assure an oil supply that is never going to be enough to satisfy the needs of the world, let alone us. Can you not think beyond the next two weeks and your short term investments and interests? Our policies have destabilized the entirety of the Middle East – Iran now unopposed after Iraq was reduced to rubble; Saudi nationals organizing the 9-11 catastrophe while we funneled as much money as we could to the Saudi monarchy for the last 50 years, etc. You have to be insane to blame Obama or anyone else for not solving this mess in 2 years – it will take decades at a minimum, unless, of course, you employ the nuclear/military option, which will absolutely assure that our oil supplies from abroad will cease. Quit assigning blame to Obama, and realize that our foreign policy has had no long term vision or morality. We are now reaping the rewards of our short-sightedness and intractable cow-towing to oil interests abroad and at home. The Koch brothers control our foreign policy more than Obama or Hilary!

        • 45caliber

          All foreign policy concerning the Mid-East was vetted through the oil companies until a few years ago – and mostly still are. Back years ago (during the ’70s) any foreign policy request to the Mid-East was based on allowing them to raise their oil prices. Several of the leaders then were hesitant about raising prices, fearing that any raise in price would be shunned by the American people. The oil companies and Washington both assured them that we would never do that. I think it is one of the reasons that Washington refuses to drill here for oil now. They have a bunch of treaties with them to not do so, to keep buying regardless of the price.

        • Cliffystones

          “the nuclear/military option, which will absolutely assure that our oil supplies from abroad will cease.”

          Not if we use neutron bombs!

        • always right

          Sure, its been festering since the 70′s. We can thank the greens, the party of barry, for that. We could have been supplying and refining our own oil for 40 years now but they saw to it that we didn’t. AWAR got taken out of play by the leftists even though it is nothing but mud flat where they’re drilling now. Then the co-presidunces and their enviro-lackies locked up much of our coastal and western oil reserves by making then “wilderness” and forbidding coastal offshore drilling. And then the 0-bomb shut down our own oil drilling in the gulf so the Chinese and Cuba can come in and drill in our stead, even though a court overruled his dicktatorial decree. Sorry guy but the left is sole owner of these oil problems, the national debts due to oil, the devaluation of the dollar as a medium of trade for oil, the lack of domestic production and refining and the wealth we’ve lavished on the muslim despots since the 70′s. You own it, bubba.

          • Bruce D.

            Nice post Misguided. Enough experts have said green energy will not solve our energy problems at this time, that we need to use every source of energy we have to be independent. Natural gas and nuclear energy should have been pushed in addition to oil. Can anyone not say that in addition to the mortgage crisis the outflow of cash for gasoline and oil is also responsible for our financial meltdown over the last two years thanks to the greens and the left for their lack of common sense. And of course Obama has Zero tolerance for common sense which he has proven with his energy policy, his health care reform, and his handling of the gulf oil spill.

          • Eric Bischoff

            Always wrong, the earth is not your to rape and pillage so that you can keep driving your humvee. I realize that it takes a higher vision to see yourself past the carbon age but don’t be so scared it can and will be done.

          • Bruce D.

            Political nonesense Eric.

          • Kim

            Well said, always right. We have enough oil reserves here in the US to thumb our noses at the middle east’s hold over us. Thanks to the uninformed and misguided tree huggers, we are still dependent on imports…

        • FLEURDELYS

          Indeed Skip. I am glad you made it clear for the rest of the audience. Some of them are just looking to blame our president Obama for the whole legendary and the history of the world just because they don’t like the guy. They just dismissed the 60 years where Obama wasn’t born yet. To me it is more than being a bunch of cowards blinding themselves from the reality.

          • debalazo

            “FLEURDELYS says:
            …just looking to blame our president Obama… just because they don’t like the guy… a bunch of cowards blinding themselves from the reality.”

            Fleury, Obongo is not a president but an imposter. An illegal alien, subversive for Zionists, his puppetmasters, with Mossad rigging his votes in Diebold’s computers, and the Rothschilds financing the scam.

            Like the guy? Not even his cranky wife! She despises him especially after learning of his homo affair with Mr. Sinclair in a limousine, and his pot use as a youth.

            And the blind are the fools who cheered him since Chicago and still are waiting for a promised check every month to pay their bills.

            Reality though, is catching up with Obongo: Again the public wants to see his Birth Certificate. Do you know the penalty for usurping the presidency? Only a pot fool and blackmailed homo would dare serve his masters as he did.

      • Pat R

        The problems in Egypt are not basically from Obama. Believe it or not; this is being done to dissolve OPEC. OPEC is not a middle-east org. It had it’s birth here in the good ole USA. Thanks to Rockefellor and Bush. (I am not a Bush basher; in fact i liked Bush until I learned what he did to the Twin Towers. People wake up! 911 was an inside cover-up for the removal (theft) of tons of Gold from under the Towers by Bush and others. Tower 7 had to be destroyed to get rid of documents that were kept there. The chemical from in the dust was only made in Israel at that time. The airplanes were controlled from the ground, there were no TERRORISTS ON THOSE PLANES. The security films showing Atta and others in the airport were doctored; date and time was blurred and unreadable. If these guys were aboard these planes and died; why have some of them been found alive and well in other countries?
        The CIA is nothing but a Criminal org. They run the drug smuggling and Drug Cartels to fund Alquada! You don’t want to get in their way. They are Criminals.
        We have been lied to for decades.

        https://www.freeconferencing.com/playback.html?cn=94-43-28-63&e=2243221200000&cid=conferences/-17-65-6759-17-65-67-17-65-67-17-65-67126-17-65-67-17-65-6783-17-65-6753122121-17-65-67-17-65-670.mp3

        • Notlob

          PatR is living in his own exclusive world where no realty exists. He is a virtual voice and nearly alone!

          • debalazo

            “Notlob says:
            PatR is living in his own exclusive world where no realty exists. He is a virtual voice and nearly alone!”

            Unfortunatelly for those who extoll the dirty accomplishments of the beast from Zion, the evidence both photographic and verbal is such, only needed is a gutsy American President elected by the people, not by rigged computers tallied by terrorist Mossad, and cheered upon by dual-passport, dual-loyatly, israel-first Demoncreatures in Washington, to investigate, indict, and punish all the perpetrators of 911.

            To all complicit, ignorant, or naive, watch 911 Mysteries, 911 Missing Links, 911 Zero, and listen to the caught-off-guard declarations of such creatures as Silverstein, Rumsfeld, Bush Jr, Guiliani, and ilk, added to the uncovered actions of subversives such as Chertoff, Mukasey, Zekheim, Cheney, and the treasonous acts of all the government letter soup agencies involved in the cover up of that crime.

            The time to pay the piper is just around the corner.

          • Bruce D.

            This is one of those sites Notlob where some will think they are a lot more intelligent than you for disagreeing with ParR.

        • http://None Ray Rourke

          A good example of being sick in the head

          • debalazo

            “Ray Rourke says:
            A good example of being sick in the head”

            A good example of poor defense by a Freudian amateur psychologist, of the criminals who rigged the Towers, the terrorist Mossad, with Marvin Bush looking the other way, and turning off power so the security cameras wouldn’t catch the faces of the perpetrators for posterity. The ones Chertoff and Mukasey, dual-passport zionists, packed and sent to Tel Aviv before anyone could inquire on their activities on 911. Or was it SecuraCom, the israeli owned ‘security’ agency at WTC and at Logan airport, who shut down the cameras and dismissed the sniffing dogs while the rigging took place? And the Beast will be cast into Abyss for a thousand years.

        • Vicki

          I notice that most everyone went immedatly to demonizxing PatR typically using ad hominem attacks rather than countering his assertions which he provided links to his evidence.

          This leads me to consider that PatR is on to something and it should be investigated.

          • Marten

            What about ”Chertoff” he was a key part of the team that helped the FBI (Federal Bureau of Idiots)cover-up their role in the 1993 bombing of the WTC…He is the best example of the Self-propelled human garbage…what a scum bag…He’s still a busy man and he’s been at this fake terrorism scam, a long, long time……

        • Tazio2013

          PatR & debalazo,

          Welcome to the “truth tellers; it’s refreshing to read you words, especially with so many PDL pinheads in the audience.

      • FLEURDELYS

        Why does it have to be always about your interest ?
        Expecting the whole middle east to give up their freedom, their rights.Living under fear of torture if they use any free speech just for you to get cheap oil for your car. Why can’t you educate yourself with all the technology we got in USA and find a solution to your oil crisis.
        Our president campaigned on democracy, freedom since the day one as well as Bush declaring freedom in the middle east and others before…

      • EddieW

        Obaba is probably hoping that Islam will take over Egypt when Mubarak gets kicked out…I thought they wanted Freedom and Democracy not sharia lawe and slavery!!!

    • Misanthrope in Seattle

      I disagree with SC’s premise that the tumult in Egypt was “orchestrated by the White House several years ago.” Myers has it right: the Obama Administration’s lack of a cogent message and political soft-shoe clearly indicates that the White House and the CIA have been caught asleep at the wheel…. again.

      Obama needs to WAKE UP to the fact that a stable supply of oil is critical to the world-wide economic recovery and US national security and therefore demands his administration’s full attention. The fact that the situation in Egypt has caught him off guard supports the conclusion that he just doesn’t fathom the gravity of the issue which, in turn, portends ill consequences to the US and the global economy in the short term.

      • Bruce D.

        Obama doesn’t have a clue because creating jobs has a lot to do with whether people are satisfied with government or not. Even China understands that. Creating and maintaining government jobs only erodes the middle class more. It appears that many lost their jobs in Iraq because of the war which helped to sustain them. Mubarak being a military man put most of the 1.5 billion dollars we gave him into the military which will come back to bite us if the Brotherhood takes control of the country which seem likely because of the strick adherehence to the Koran and its commitment to jihad.

        • Jana

          Bruce d.
          You have a point there. People don’t trust our current Gov’t. Obama has done nothing to give us any hope of trusting them either. All we see is more of the same ol same ol, only much much worse, because he ran on an open policy and has lied.

    • American Patriot
    • patrick H.T. paine

      “To conquer, first DIVIDE!!!!!”

      Greetings MORONS,

      How are you all doing today? Who the (offensive words removed)
      gets up at this hour of the day to spout THEIR opinion about this crap? Seriously?

      The state of Islam is PSYCHOTIC. It is beginning, as you can see, to
      emerge from its own dark age…..similar to europe in the middle ages
      prior to Guttenburg. When this happened, christianity went every which
      way…..take your pick.

      Ever wonder why there are only two referential branches of Islam?
      Sunni and Shi’ite? ( there are more, but none significant to sweat
      the details )

      Most of the billion Islamist’s are illiterate. They rely on what the Quran says ( Koran wtf ) and means, through “intrepretation”. ( Does this concept sound vaguely familiar? )

      Even if they can READ, they have not read it in CLASSICAL ARABIC, and
      this makes a world of difference, especially to those who CAN read
      classical arabic. ( Does this sound vaguely familiar? )

      What is our interest here…..NONE! oops! I forgot, we are being exposed “once again”, for the hypoctites and mercenaries that we are.
      ( and that’s not quite correct, because it’s your elected government,
      and the corporations that have corrupted it that have an interest
      here, and maybe YOU in you work for them, or benefit )

      How ridiculous are we, to listen our “government” spouting the concept
      of the people of egypt having the right to have their grievances
      addressed by their government, when they are deaf to our’s?

      Do not ask for whom the bell tolls.

      • patrick H.T. paine

        “To conquer, first DIVIDE!!!!!!”

        Clarification: I have obviously used the descriptive term, “Morons”,
        in the nicest possible way.

        What is more interesting was the “censorship of so called offensive
        word”, but no word was used….because the word is an acronym….
        the phrase was used, for unlawful carnel knowledge, with the first
        letters capitalised, and followed by P.eriods. Who designs a “program”
        to catch that, and if not a program, what intelligent human would
        find that phrase offensive? Bold unrestricted legitimate language
        should heighten intelligent thinking? I wonder if that will be
        offensive?

        Personally, I find concepts like “saving our democracy” extremely
        offensive……but it appears that one can, over time, reduce the
        definitive meaning of words, by continuously repeating them
        in an erroneous context, until the usage becomes accepted, and
        the etymological history deconstructed.

        Ignorance is strength! Y’all have a nice day.

  • MJ Montana

    S.C.
    You wrote it’s deja vu all over again. Why not with Groundhog Day and all?

    One State Department dictator is another useful puppet for the Pentagon. Keeping Mubarak around but saying Saddam HAD to be overthrown makes Washington look even more stupid. And what was the Iraq war over anyway? Oh yeah DEMOCRACY, just like we have in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia (NOT!).

    Keep in mind S.C., many think that Egypt will turn into a true democracy. That will certainly be bucking the trend where more and more countries are ruled by Islamic goverments rather than securlar ones.

    • TIME

      Been to the UK or France or Germany lately?
      They have their hands full with the Muslims. We are closing our office in London due to the damage we have had to our business over the last few years.
      My lease is up and we are out of there, the tax’s are crazy, the laws more so but to also have to deal with the looting, smashing of windows weekly, paint removal weekly, you know kind of like what went on in Nazi Germany I have had enough.

      In Paris France these Muslims have all but destroyed parts of the city they shut down large parts of the city when its time for their daily prayers when they just plop down in the streets.

      If you have never seen any of this before you have “NO CLUE” how bad it gets. And its not going to get better any time soon. Life as most of you have grown to know is about to come to an end.
      Welcome to not only HELL, but what will end up being World War III.

      And Yes you’re government has brought this about, no mater where you live, the UK, France, Germany, Russia, USA, the only places I don’t see any Muslims is in China and Japan as they will not stand for that BS at all.

      • Jana

        Time,
        This is exactly what the Muslims (listen to how obama pronounces it as he pronounces it perfect ‘Mooslum’) want to do in the United States as well. Already they as you said plop themselves down on Fridays in New York as well as many other major cities. After all, remember we are the Great Satan here in this country and we need to be taken over by them and Islamaize us.

        • kate8

          TIME and Jana – It will certainly be interesting to see who steps forward with a treaty to “bring peace” to the Middle East.

          • Jana

            Kate8,
            Exactly. Thats when we know the time is at hand when they start proclaiming peace.

          • American Patriot

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RjnvQHWyLE

            Jewish Rabbi against Zionism in Israel

          • Jana

            American Patriot,
            He may be a Jew, but he is also a Kenite.

        • Dick Gazinia

          Even Beverly Hills is being Islamicized. The mayor is an Iranian who has a tough time with English as so many of his rich countrymen have bought into that community and outvoted everyone else. Why are we giving these people visas to move here.

          The Italians are having major problems with their Muslim immigrants as are the French, Ditch, Germans, and Brits. Why are all those doors open to people who hate the countries they are moving to and hate the cultures of those countries?

          And here… they are building more mosques. Just what we need.

          • debalazo

            Solution: Take all dual passport, dual loyalty israel first traitors in government, pack them to Tel Aviv, and end their open border multiculturalism, and any and all countries affected by such invasions will restore sanity and safety to their citizens.

            Do not condemn the invaders or trouble makers, indict the subversives from zion. Just look up their names in the government rosters and kick them out of your country.

        • TIME

          Jana,

          I have pictures somewhere of visit to Paris last summer it was mind numbing, and there are thousands of them doing this.

          Our office in London has had the windows broken out over the last few years no less than 10 times. I am not really sure what they want from me, well that is other than the signs they carry around with slogans like “Kill the Infidells.”
          I could be wrong but I think that means anyone who’s not them.

          I do know they seem to want the UK to give them more money for welfair as well they also seem to want other things such as I think its spelled, (Shreia Law) I can’t quite fathom why the Brits would want to have such. I am just glad my lease is up very soon.

        • debalazo

          Jana,

          When will you and yours admit it is zionist sponsored ‘multiculturalism’ that helps destroy sovereign countries to afterwards take them away from their rightful owners, the local people, like they did in former Russian Empire by the Bolsheviks, then the Soviets, and finally the ‘Russian’ Mafia? Look at England, France, Greece, Australia, Canada, USA, etc.

          Embedded zionist dual passport traitors in government pass laws to allow open borders of the destitute and radical in the world. Old story. We know all about it. And will stop both the invaders and the traitors. Smell the wind.

          • Jana

            deblazo,
            I don’t see the Israelites cutting the heads off of their wives. I don’t see the Israelites telling everyone if you don’t worship allah you must die. It wasn’t the Israelites that have been going around the world murdering others and being suicide bombers.
            You have no leg to stand on.

          • dr reality check

            Okay, strange bullet, we get it, you live in a world of conspiracy theories to explain your bubble of a world. I want you to know that I’ve personally contacted the Overton Window to hire Mossad to investigate your claims and fluoridate your water. Elvis is alive and he isn’t pleased with you.

        • BDOG

          AND PEOPLE STILL DON’T THINK HE’S A MUSLIM.

          • debalazo

            BirdDog,
            Why are you promoting the zionist propaganda that oBUMa is MooseSlim? His mother IS jew and his grand pops were jews! He is a Manchurian Candidate with all the trimmings, and ALL his papers hidden from everybody so he can usurp the presidency and get away with it.

            And all his handlers are zionists. Don’t you surf the net instead of watch ABCNNBCBSFOX?

            But the zionist shield around him is already crumbling. He will be indicted on subversion and usurpation of the highest office in the land. OUCH!

        • debalazo

          Jana,
          Your comments are quite naive. oBUMa the illegal alien from Kenya, is actually a crossed African with jew blood. And the mother predominates, so he is actually a jew, not an Islamist. The fanfare of his customes and head rolls is just a put on for naive, dumbed down Amerikhans. He is as Muslim for saying ‘Mooselim’, as Pancho Villa was Gringo for raiding Columbus, New Mexico. Remember? If you are American, that is.

          • Bruce D.

            And with that kind of comment you call Jana naive?????????

          • Jana

            debalazo,
            You are an Israeliaphobic. Your hatred for them and your fear of them is showing.

      • Brad

        Time,

        Well said my friend, the truth hurts but libs will only open their eye’s when the enemy is upon them and then ask for help, it’s almost too late.

        • spitfire

          Brad it sounds to me like the libs will join the enemy or maybe they are the enemy of the state!!! They will not call for help as they see us as the enemy and want us all gone no matter what.

          • Brad

            So true Spitfire.

          • Ted Crawford

            It certainly makes one wonder just where they do stand when you hear their pundits like Alan Colmes and Sam Donaldson singing the praises of Al Jezeera dosen’t it? It would seem that they have become the enemy!

          • Jana

            Ted Crawford,
            I certainly consider them my enemy. They stand for everything that is Anti America and Anti God.

          • eddie47d

            Al Jazeera is actually considered an open news source in the Middle East and criticizes those countries also. If we want an open and free press in that region then they are your best bet.(not perfect but hopeful)

          • Kinetic1

            Eddie,
            I’m afraid your words will fall on blind eyes. Facts about the large and varied nature of the Muslim community (not unlike the Christians) seem to have little chance of gaining a foothold around here. I hope I’m wrong, but it seems like they all know the “truth” and have little use for facts.

          • Bruce D.

            Eddie I actually like Ajazeera News station. I go between that and Fox News all the time. The rest of the news stations including BBC I find boring.

        • TIME

          Brad,
          I agree we have many problems that are just about to come to the surface so even the blind can see them. And its not going to be very long.

        • BDOG

          AN IGNORANT VOTE IS A DANGEROUS VOTE AND SO MANY LIBS DON’T EVEN SEE IT COMING.

          • eddie47d

            …and those who voted for Bush are then doubly dangerous. Sorry I couldn’t resist.

          • BDOG

            EDDY47D, I HAVE SEEN YOU POST HERE BEFORE , I DON’T THINK ANYONE GIVES A CRAP WHAT YOU THINK ANYWAY.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            boy! They learnabout you REAL quick!!!

          • eddie47d

            That is there loss if they can’t accept a difference of opinion.

      • RUDY

        What no one seems to want to pay attention to, is that OBAMA HIMSELF said that he would side with ISLAM when things got nasty. That is precisely what he is doing. He is working to orchestrate a majority world control through Islam, and that spells world chaos for us all. The muslims are a bunch of fanatically insane unguided missels, for lack of a better term, and they can only function on two purposes, murder anyone who is not muslim, and eradicate Israel. It has nothing to do with oil, although it does affect it, it has nothing to do with anything other than the two above cited circumstances. They are mindless zealots who will go to any extreme, and have no common sense. Obama is the conductor for all this and I can’t BELIEVE that anyone listens to this long eared jackass braying. I just want to projectile vomit any time I see his nasty face or hear his crawly voice. He is the epitome of the function of evil and destruction, and everyone just acts like we are dealing with just another presidency. Heh, we are dealing with setting up for having it all to turn into the middle east over here, because no one will take this jackanapes DOWN. Our own govt has turned against us using the very same tools which brought the ayatollah into Iran, and Mubarak himself had Sadat assassinated, so although he might be less radical than the muslim brotherhood, he was not a great guy either. Obama in telling him to step down just basically sanctioned his demise. He will get to LIKE this power, as he does all his destructive actions, and he will turn on US again. Wake up. Egypt is in trouble, but it spells WORSE DAYS for us if we don’t get things taken care of HERE! We have a prophetic scene playing out right in front of our eyes, we need to take heed and take action, or we will see it for real here. Except in OUR case, the military will fire on us. Believe it!

        • marvin

          RUDY
          coming to a street near you like egypt,can this take place here you bet will it mostlikely, but we god frearing american try talk then action,the talking is just about over,i do not care or need anyone to tell me what to eat dress sleep or who to agree with ,i am an american citizen,NOT A SUBJECT TO HIS GRATENESS WANT TO BE KING EL CID OBAMA or the liberal agenda,but we in the tea party want to steal al brain dead sharptons CROWN,if we did i would melt it down and make ammo from it

      • marvin

        TIME
        kinda of like what merkel of germany said multi culture is not working they don,t want to fit in they [immigrents]don,t want to change they want you to change wonder where she got that idea could it be from fact all over the world where islam is the religion and we are blind or just plain stuped to see

      • http://none mike duff

        In New York City Streets are blocked off for Muslim pray time. However it has also been happening on Main Street in Bethel, CT for a Christian service every Sunday morning for many years. Read the Koran and learn to fear.

      • Bruce D.

        Nice post Time. There are a lot of Muslims who want to impose Sharia Law on the rest of the world. It is not just a select few that Obama claims. O’rielly has had Muslims on his show who understand and enjoy western freedoms. The question is how many Muslims truly are looking for freedom and how many want to be dominated by strict adherence to the Koran and Sharia law politically.

      • FLEURDELYS

        The reason there are no muslims in China or in its neighborhood is because they don’t feed on dogs, cats and pets…as the locals do

    • Mike Keller

      Well I have read many of the responses to the report, and I agree, the Oboma Islamic group, ei. him and Clinton, are doing a very good job of making sure we become a Islamic state real quick. I know some if not most is saying right now, well there’s another idiot, no there in Government right now. I know no name calling, well I’m not! I’m like Rush, when is the truth name calling! I think that MJ Montana is not as informed as he should be. Mr Montana, take a look at History if you will. Who attacked us on 911? Who did we have blow up the US Cole battle Ship, who did we fight in Afghanistan, when they drug our dead troops through the streets so the world could see what they were doing to anyone who questioned them. Sir I could go on and on with stories, but how many do you need if you are an American to get you upset at Islamics terrorist, and we nor did we make Iraq a “Democracy” we made them a representative republic, just like us sir, not a democracy, look up the difference!

      • spitfire

        Are we really a Republic, or just wish we still were?? I think we have become a democracy in a very short time, and are headed for the last round-up like all democracies.

        • kate8

          spitfire – I have noticed for some time now that EVERYONE, regardless of political persuasion, refers to us as a “democracy”. I’ve not heard anyone use the term “republic” in as long as I can remember.

          It makes me cringe every time.

          • Carlucci

            Exactly. Democracy = Mob rule. D.C. = Federal Mafia.

          • Bruce D.

            I agree democracy is mob rule. It especially will not work in Iraq as the country is divided 70-30. The 30% wanted a say in government and without a Republic they would not have gotten that.

          • Bruce D.

            Democracy is the dream of Communists with the ultimate prize of one party rule. The goal of Progressives is to expand government so that it has total dominance over individuals and businesses to promote social welfare with the idea that they can control government with the vote once it has dominance over individuals. We need to acknowledge that we have inalienable rights as individuals and people cannot be voting on that. Governments need to be restricted with original intent of the Constitution with is under a constant assault.

        • bear

          Whoa Spitfire……..It’s been a while since we blew past the Democracy scene. We are strong into the Socialist/Marxist part of the indoctrination phase of full blown dictatorship and Communism. These politicians who are herding us are not Democrats. They are what we truly know as “progressive liberals.” Their agenda is to strip America of all its riches, eliminate the middle class and establish themselves at the center of the anthill as the elitists and us the ants. You and your desires for freedom, by their means, will become as irrelevant as which way the wind blows. Better believe this.

          • skip

            Where do the Koch Brothers, Wall Street, Big Insurance, and the other big lobbies fit in your description of who is herding us? Are they the so-called “progressive liberals?” It is a given that our congress and now our judicial system is controlled by big-money elites – where is the money coming from? Do you know, and can you tell us? I don’t think it is coming from the middle class, or the working man – they are essentially out of play.

    • 45caliber

      A lot of the problem is that liberals (particularly in Washington) have this wonderful fantasy of what the world should be like. And they are certain that most people have the same fantasy. So they are willing to believe that any action by the people anywhere in the world is a step toward democracy – their belief is that this is the best form of government as long as they are in charge. And they will be in charge since everyone (or at least the majority) believes that they are the perfect people to rule – not govern. And if the people doesn’t vote for what they want it is because the people are not allowed to vote or blinded or fooled or simply stupid. Everyone KNOWS that their fantasy is the best and they are the best people to do it.

    • JUKEBOX

      Never forget, a true democracy is three wolves and one lamb voting on their dinner for that day!

  • http://aol.com sean murrey

    he is in lala land not reality.

    • Pat R

      He is stoned on cocaine! Why all the impromptu trips to Afghanistan? He simply restocks, flying it home on Air Force One. No Security checks.
      You Go Boy! Your day on reckoning is knocking on your door!
      No, you are NOT God; as you recently stated in the Oval Office. Yes, you can be arrested! Which, by the way is looming on the horizon.
      YOU’RE GOING DOWN, SOON!

  • jd

    Why dont we just butt out and let people do what they want. Both here in u.s. as well as abroad. whether you have the ability to vote or not; trying to control people is fascist.

    • Bobber

      No, it is liberal/fascist.

      • eddie47d

        You all want a voice in government yet when it come to the Egyptian government you want to oppress the voice of their 85 million people. What hypocrites! You say you don’t want foreign entanglement yet you want to control the lives of those very people who have gained little in our billions in military support. If you truly believe in Freedom then give this process a chance. Stay on the side lines and encourage them to take the right path. Once again it’s not our country to win or loose.

        • spitfire

          Eddie what part of Egypt do you live? How is everything going for you there? I hope you have not seen the violence first hand. Then again, if you area muslim, it is probaby like the best party you have ever attended.

          • eddie47d

            So you believe in having a foot on the back of the Egyptian people. Whether it’s Mubarak or our military equipment keeping them in line. At this point there is very little violence and I noticed even John Meyers tried to trump that up. Our Revolution was messy too so what is going on in Egypt is quit tame.

          • Zoey

            Spitfire,
            I ask this question, what percentage of Egypts people want Mubarek out? What percentage support him? I find it odd that our media only portrays the protesters wanting him out. How many of their people are actually happy with the government? Of course if all you show on tv and the people that you interview are against their government that is what the world will see and hear. So, now the opposition has come to the streets and the media is putting the spin that violence has now broken out. I consider it violent when the original protesters were clubbing and hitting others and destroying property and looting, violence, don’t you? I’m not disagreeing with you in any way, just something to ponder, why doesn’t our media report the news on both sides? Isn’t it odd that is how they do it here in America too.

          • Bruce D.

            Good point Zoey. How many are looking for freedom, how many just want to loot, how many like the present government, how many want an Iranian type theocracy based on no freedom, and how many just want jobs. It is quite possible most just want jobs but more likely it will end up a theocracy like Iran. I actually hope I am wrong.

        • RPH1045

          I agree ,Obama isn’t he is getting involved. And its not any of the USA’s business. Also I think all people that chooses to come here, should have to adhere to our customs not us having to change to accept their customs. REMEMBER THEY ARE MOVING HERE. I WAS ALWAYS TAUGHT THAT YOU RESPECT PEOPLE WHEN YOU GO AROUND THOSE PEOPLE FRIEND OR ENEMY

        • Delores Smith

          eddie47d
          The man who wants to become the leader of Egypt admits that more than 30% of the population are the Muslim Brotherhood. This is not a question of supporting the people in Egypt…the Muslim Brotherhood are stirring up the people. MB founded Hamas and AlQuaida. This new leader wants to include Muslim Brotherhood in the new government. Sound familiar? Lebanon with Hezbollah until Lebanon fell…Hamas with Palestine on Gaza Strip
          …and now, Muslim Brotherhood wants to govern Egypt. Hamas and Hezbollah are on our list of Terrorists, but Obama does not have Muslim Brotherhood on the list of Terrorists. Obama, we are watching you. Put Muslim Brotherhood on our list of Terrorists…you know their history! Their clear goal is to take Israel and the United States. Obama, you won’t care, because you want to be Ruler of the Muslim World, but you are not qualified. Americans, keep contacting Congress with your views. We’ll get Obama out of office in 2012.
          Delores Smith Delores109@cox.net

          • eddie47d

            Maybe the Muslim Brotherhood is dangerous and maybe they are mostly ordinary citizens who are tired of being pushed around. Some say the Tea Party was extreme but I for one never believed that.The point is that every nation or group of people has citizens who are mad and won’t take it anymore. Sound familiar? There are degrees of oppression and believe me most Americans are not oppressed. So you have to look at the Egyptian struggle in a different context. How do they live and work and how much money do they live on each day.

          • Jana

            Delores,
            You are soooo right.

          • JeffH

            eddie says: “Maybe the Muslim Brotherhood is dangerous and maybe they are mostly ordinary citizens who are tired of being pushed around.”

            Again I’ll say, a little research can go a long way. Ordinary citizens they are not…

            Muslim American Warns of Brotherhood Danger:
            American elites are whitewashing the danger posed by the Muslim Brotherhood in nations like Egypt, writes Dr. Qanta Ahmed, a prominent Muslim American physician.

            Ahmed, who has firsthand experience living and working in Muslim lands, believes what is occurring in Egypt is “an Islamist movement’s a la carte dream come true.” But instead of telling the American public what is actually going on, the media is feeding them a steady diet of “well-spoken academics” providing false reassurances that the Brotherhood is not a major threat to liberty.

            “Make no mistake,” she writes, “the Muslim Brotherhood is a menacingly ambitious group which seeks staggering influence in international and domestic politics and has an unshakable view of installing an ultraorthodox Sharia through the bedrock of constitutions and democracy in a way that will favor repression, social control, and seek to expunge pluralism and secularism.”

            The American Muslim community is relatively small, spread out and diverse, Ahmed writes, so no one can claim to speak on its behalf. Yet, Muslim Brotherhood affiliates in the United States “function covertly as components to community advocacy groups who are inexplicably empowered by a naïve or perhaps deliberately wily U.S. administration fulfilling shortsighted politically correct goals while persistently failing to see the risks presented by engaging with such organizations at the exclusion of the influences of smaller and far more moderate groups.”
            http://www.investigativeproject.org/2547/muslim-american-warns-of-brotherhood-danger

          • Bruce D.

            I am not sure why Eddie cannot see that Delores. It is a mystery to me how people miss that side of the equation.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            If you never thought the TEA party dangerous, then why have I seen you post that they are gun toting rednecks??? You said that Sarah Palin was to be blamed for the Tuscon shooter. If that’s not saying that they are dangerous i don’t know what does!!

          • eddie47d

            Joe; I have never said that the Tea Party people are gun toting rednecks or that Palin is at fault for the Tucson shooting. You are a liar and a mixed up dishonest sort of a human. Showing your true colors gain?

        • 45caliber

          eddie: why not stay on the sidelines and keep our mouths shut one way or the other? It isn’t our business. Let them alone and when they finally get things straight, deal with whoever is in control on a straight-forward way. If they don’t want that, then ignore them.

          The ONLY time we should get involved in ANY country is when we are attacked. Then we should stomp them flat, tell them that next time we’ll do a better job of it if they try anything again, and then go home.

          • Pat R

            Remember the missile off the coast of CA recently? Why did it happen, and they lied to us again! The US had parked 2 nuclear armed ships in China’s coastal waterways. China asked them to move them and they refused to do so. Surprise! China sent a Sub and fired towards the USS
            Eisenhower. not to hit it , but to get their attention. In the process, the Luxury Liner in the area at the time had all of it,s controls fried, and had to be towed in.
            Our Government thinks it can do as it damn well pleases and treat any other Country as it pleases. This crap has got to stop.

          • 45caliber

            Pat:

            So that’s what that was about. In any case, it wasn’t China’s coastal waters. What China is claiming is about like the US claiming that no one except US ships can sail in the Gulf of Mexico. Not even those who border it like Mexico. So in a way, I agree with the US on this one. But it would have been nice to know why. Thanks for letting me know.

      • Kinetic1

        Bobber,
        Trying to control people is “liberal/fascist?” It could be said that America’s relationship has been one of love/hate when it comes to Saddam Hussein, but no one can overlook the support given to him by America and the CIA in the 70s.

        America loved Sadam when he was at war with Iran. It wasn’t until the late 80s/early 90s when Iraq’s relationship with Kuwait reached a head, that Sadam finally fell out of our graces. Iraq had long held that Kuwait was truly a region of Iraq, and after years of arguments over Kuwait’s resistance to reducing oil production to raise prices and help Iraq pay off Iraq’s Iranian war debt (much of it owed to America) Sadam invaded Kuwait. Even then, George H.W. Bush was reluctant to step in. We all know the story of “Desert Storm” and our military’s efforts to free the Kuwaitis (and their oil reserves), but how many people remember that we didn’t continue our push into Bagdad for fear of destabilizing the region? Even when we were at war with Sadam, we wanted him to continue to remain a force against Islamic rule.

        Fast forward to the prodigal son, and George W. Bush pushes to war with Iraq. And what do we get? A destabilized Middle East! Who would have guessed it? Bottom line, from Reagan’s funding of Sadam’s war with Iran, to Bush Senior’s reluctance to invade and Bush Jr.’s decision to “create” a democracy, the right has had no problem with exerting their control over other nations. So again I ask, how can you say that controlling people is “liberal/fascist”?

    • JUKEBOX

      If we did as you want us to do, Israel would probably nuke Iran and all of the radical Muslims that are dedicated to their destruction.

      • American Patriot

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RjnvQHWyLE

        This Jewish Rabbi says Jews lived in peace with Muslims for a very long time. So, who is the radicals? Jews or Muslims? I think that maybe we are all being played.

        • Jana

          AP,
          It sounds like you are the one being played! You don’t know the Word.

        • Bruce D.

          Jews have their own side to the story. The Muslim side which I happen to believe is that prior to 1948 Jews were legally buying land up to 6% of the population with the aid of others. The stipulation was that it could never be sold to Arabs once bought. Many Muslims did not want to sell their land and more so after they found this out. Several hundred thousand Muslims were pushed off their land in 1948 through the use of terror and war. They ended up in camps in Jordan where their descendants live to this day. Any harmony between Jews and Muslims came about by the Jews complete dominance over them with force. Now with Sharia Law being also a political movement enforced by terrorism and jihad it is not just Israel’s problem anymore. It has become a problem for the whole world.

        • Bruce D.

          American Patriot I saw the video after I posted. I do not think anyone can deny the Jews took Israel by force and displaced hundreds of thousands of Muslims. That is history and not reversibly. I think the problem is bigger than that now. Muslims want to establish religious/political dominance in the world and claim to be inspired by god to kill anyone who gets in their way. It does make the news in America but Muslims have been killing Thais on the average of one a day for the last seven years in the South of Thailand. Many are school kids and teachers because Thais will not cater to their culture in the school system.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        JUKEBOX,
        Israel will not nuke Iran if they want to continue to live healthy lives! Do you realize what exploding a nuke in all that sand would do to them, not to mention the rest of the world with the winds aloft??? The trade winds would take that radio active sand around the world. Just remember when Chernobyl went up, we registered rads here from it and that wasn’t a bomb in sand either!

  • http://deleted Claire

    Mubarak has been in office for what–30 years? Seems like all the past administrations did not have much of a problem with him. Why? Now that this issue has happened, what should be done? Go to war with them? We should mind our own business, quit sticking our nose in other countries’ affairs. Hell, with the corruption within our own government, I fail to see how we can take on another country’s problems and create a “democracy” for them when we can’t even operate our own country with moral ethics.

    • JUKEBOX

      Obama’s speech ic Cairo to the Muslim Brotherhood planted the seeds of dissent, and thus helped to start this fiasco.

      • Pat R

        No Obama fan here, but, Bush hosted a Youth Forum in 2008, and youth from this area in Egypt and other nations attended. This is the outcome of that Forum. They radicalized these young people to cause discontent, and have fomented it ever since.
        During reading articles doing research online, I came across a statement that caught my attention. I will try to find it again. In the article, the author stated that if the American citizens ever found out what the Leadership in this country had done to them; the people would revolt and hang them all on the steps of the Capitol! This remark came from someone who knew what was going on in the Foreign Country that is known as Washington DC.

        • FLEURDELYS

          I agree with everything Pat R have posted. I found out he did realy make his searches thoroughly. I also think his one of the smartest and intellect here.

  • Gary

    The muslim brotherhood is the new communism we fought around the world for 60 years. In the end, that turned out to be the best thing to do. However, look down the road a bit. If we let the muslim brotherhood and shiria law take hold in Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan, and others, what problems will we have to deal with then? We know what they stand for and its NOT in our best interests to let them gain power. So, do we just stand back( like we did in WWII until Japan bombed us) or do we try and “steer” the direction and government of these nations?

    It was stated that Clinton never got the chance to have a “cisis” like Bush got with 9/11 to show his stuff. It has been stated Obama needs such a crisis so he can show his spine of steel as Bidin claimed he has. Well, he has his crisis. this one could turn out to be much more dangerous than 9/11 was! This could be a crisis that will alter the entire world. It’s crucial how this president handles this. We may avoid an immediate issue, only to have a much larger mess to deal with later! Now is not a time to play politics. Now is a time to pay attention, and get it right the first time. Personnaly, this president does not have what it takes to do this right. He’s way to full of himself, and does not have a clear understanding of world issues. He has shown that way too many times already!

    • http://deleted Claire

      When I look back 30-50 years– I really do not find any potus that really had the guts/bal–s to do the job. Crude, but this is what I believe.

      • Jana

        Claire,
        Actually I think you are right. No one really ever knew what to do with them and their radical religion, and we always had this idea that we would be exempt from this mess. Then they started coming over here and was welcomed with open arms. Now they are treating the entire world as their rug to wipe their feet on. They are using our freedom of religion to mean freedom to take us over and make us turn to an Islamic nation too. This is their goal. It is in the Qu’ran and the Hadiths to do so. We are already incorporating Sharia law into our court systems in many places. We have Sharia law in our banking system. They are slowly and quietly stealing their way in to our society. Many of our fast food establishments and restaurants already use Halal meat. Once they get a strong foothold they plan on taking over.
        Just like the Mosque near ground zero. We haven’t heard too much about that recently, but they are proceeding with the plans to build it. It may take them longer than they had hoped, but it will be done one way or another.

        • Brad

          Claire, Jana,

          Both of you are right in my view but I also fear the end (WWIII). It’s coming and we can’t stop it; if the islamists take over a country that has nuclear weapons they won’t hesitate to use them, so Pakistan needs to watch out, they are next.

          If the MB gains momentum and they gain control of Eygept they will control the flow of traffic through the Suez Canal. We can’t afford 200 dollars a barrel of oil coming from Saudi Arabia and or Kuwait. The enviromentalists in our own country won’t let us drill for ower own resources, we have in the ground enough oil to last us more than 100 years and we can’t touch it, ask them why!

          • http://deleted Claire

            Brad–I am not a warmonger, but I firmly believe that we should NEVER NEVER cut back on our military/weaponry. This is Rule #1. We should never have allowed America to lapse into a weakened condition. Rule # 2– Be prepared–always be on guard, keep our eyes open and our ears listening. Paranoia? Nope, common sense. Rule # 3 –Keep our “friends” close and our enemies closer. In other words, don’t tread on America. Ever.

          • Brad

            Amen Claire!!!

        • http://deleted Claire

          Jana– I agree with your comment. They were greeted with open arms and they quickly and methodically pursued every opportunity they could get. Not all immigrants are evil, but some are/were. With the influx of so many foreigners into America for the past 100 years, I sometimes think “silently but deadly.” Paranoid? No, I am being realistic. I keep thinking they will get us from “within.” And they are.

        • http://www.America-Betrayed-1787.com Oliver Woods

          Jana, you are exactly correct in your comment on Muslim abuse of Freedom of Religion. This is their modus operandi everywhere and it is our own fault because Freedom of Religion spells cultural suicide. The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is a direct violation of the First Commandment: “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” Freedom of Religion is national idolatry and God pronounces death on any culture that embraces it. The Bible protects freedom of conscience for the “stranger,” but strictly forbids public worship of any other god, including Alah. Any nation that sanctions this will perish, for reasons that are now becoming obvious:

          “And you shall not wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt. He who sacrifices to any god, other than to the Lord alone, shall be utterly destroyed” (Ex 22: 20,21).

          • Jana

            Oliver Woods,
            AMEN!!!

          • kate8

            Oliver – Prior to LBJ, only immigrants from cultures compatible with ours were allowed to settle in America. They had to go through screening to show that they would be an asset to our culture.

            It was LBJ who opened the door to the Third World. I remember going on road trips during the early ’80s and being surprised to find middle easterners owning more and more of the motels and making real inroads into our economy, and wondering what would become of our culture because of it.

            Multiculturism is a communist tool to set nations up for decay and collapse. Political correctness was introduced to silence those of us who were uneasy about where it was all heading.

          • 45caliber

            I can’t see the connection to the 1st Amendment and Freedom of Religion. The 1st Amendment said that the government couldn’t interfer with the free exercise of religion – but it does all the time. After all, when they refuse to allow school prayer or a cross on public property, they are putting restrictions in based on some complaint by, usually, only one person. Madeline O’Hara was financed by the Soviets to push that because they recognized that people who are firmly religious can’t easly be conquered.

            The 1st Amendment was placed because ALL of the people in the colonies at the time had experienced government interference with their religions. They wanted to make it plain that the government had no business in religion. Unfortunately the government has turned that around trying to say that it means religion has no place in government. That is wrong.

          • kate8

            45 – The actual reason the public school system was put in place was to make sure that everyone could read the Bible. They felt that was important for people to be able to hold on to freedom.

            I know this will drive the progressives nuts, but it’s true nonetheless.

          • Bruce D.

            Nice post 45 Caliber. Really “congress shall pass no law” concerning religion is dead. Any victories in court of Christian intolerance comes through freedom of speech.

          • Bruce D.

            I have not studied it but maybe Congress isn’t passing any laws restricting religion. Activists judges are deciding that and freedom of speech is the only argument they will listen to concerning that.

        • http://None Ray Rourke

          At last some wisdom shows up here in this discussion. I wish more would come along.

      • spitfire

        Only two I can think of!

      • 45caliber

        Claire:

        I think Bush I made one mistake. He didn’t finish finding and killing Saddam. Otherwise he did exactly the right thing about Iraq. He drove them back, annilated their forces, and then pulled out without trying to “rebuild” their country.

        We started that stupid idea at the end of WWII, supposedly to give us power in the areas our of late enemies, Japan and Germany. Why? What good did it do us? Nothing. But it certainly cost us tons of money!

        • http://deleted Claire

          45caliber– I stress the fact I am not a warmonger, I want this understood, please. First off, if I were POTUS, and I had made the decision to attack another country, I would make damn sure my reasonings were legit, I would go whole hog, do what I had to do to accomplish the goal and get the hell out. No fooling around, no backpeddling, no ifs, ands, or buts. I would get the job done and get the troops home. This dilly dallying around is insane. The Iraq war has put America into a financial hole, right along with the continued unnecessary killing of our troops. Our troops are precious, they have sacrificed more for America than we ourselves have. This war has accomplished absolutely nothing–I would pull ALL of our troops out and bring them home in a New York minute. And I would make damn sure these troops would return to a good life back in the U.S. The veterans would be taken care of, no more BS when it comes to our soldiers. Their families have sacrified too, take care of them.
          War! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing!” Remember that song? The Iraq war is a perfect example of this song.
          Yes, Bush screwed around and now there is more of the same. It will be interesting to see if Obama starts getting our troops out by July–I am waiting….

          • Pat R

            Everyone blames Bush, but Mubarak is the one that demanded Sadam Hussein be killed.

          • 45caliber

            Claire:

            I agree with most of what you have said. But the Iraq “war” wasn’t nearly as expensive as trying to build up the country. Why are we doing that? That’s where most of the cost is going. (Why did we bother building up Japan after WWII for that matter?) I remember someone in the government saying that only 10% of the Iraqi people had access to any type of telephone before we went in but now all were going to be able to get and use them. So? Why did we spend the money to make sure they could? It’s just extra cost.

            When war is needed (and sometimes it is) do it and get it over with and then get out. We should quit trying to feel sorry for the people who were trying to kill you and pay them for it.

          • http://deleted Claire

            45caliber–WE seem to think along the same lines.

          • libertytrain

            Claire – change of subject you needn’t reply to – but I hope you are finished shoveling snow for the day -

          • http://?? Joe H.

            45caliber,
            I find this repulsive as well. Did Japan rebuild Pearl?? Or the phillipines?
            We should have went into Iraq reduced it to rubble and left! That is IF we were going to attack!

    • rosina

      Do not expect ANYTHING GOOD from the Bummer.
      You must know by now that he approves of Islam. It was his childhood religion after all. And, he approves of dictatorship. Don’t you recall how he bowed to and applauds the dictators of the earth such as Chavez. That is what is in his mind, HOW TO BE LIKE THEM.
      AND YES, World War 111 is definitely coming and it will be a war of religion in effect.
      This ‘usurper’ is NOT pro-America. In other countries they choose what they wish for THEIR OWN country and do not wish to be dictated to. So be it. Here, it SHOULD BE FOR THE GOOD OF THIS COUNTRY AND AT PRESENT IT IS NOT!

      • Jana

        rosina,
        And from all that I have seen of Obama he still holds Islam very dearly in his heart. He is a closet Muslim whose religion is Islam and he is slowly and very carefully emerging publicly.

        • kate8

          Jana – So true. And he’s being protected by everyone who is supposed to protect US from people like him. We have lost our gatekeepers.

    • Dr. Mabuse

      Right on the second point, Gary…
      Wrong on the first point. Let me clarify…
      “The muslim brotherhood is the new communism we fought around the world for 60 years.”

      Underground links to the Nazis began during the 1930s and were close during the Second World War, involving agitation against the British, espionage and sabotage, as well as support for terrorist activities orchestrated by Haj Amin el-Hussaini in British Mandate Palestine, as a wide range of declassified documents from the British, American and Nazi German governmental archives, as well as from personal accounts and memoirs from that period, confirm. Reflecting this connection the Muslim Brotherhood also disseminated Hitler’s Mein Kampf and The Protocols of the Elders of Zion widely in Arab translations, helping to deepen and extend already existing hostile views about Jews and democracy in Western societies generally.

      Given Hitler’s aversion to communism, its a non sequitar that he would have any long term affiliation with a communist organization.
      By proxy, The Americans aided and abetted some of the goals of the “Brotherhood” by their financial support of the National Socialist regime. (See John Foster and Allen Dulles).

      “If we let the muslim brotherhood and shiria law take hold in Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan, and others, what problems will we have to deal with then? We know what they stand for and its NOT in our best interests to let them gain power.”
      This is directly on point, note the writings of Sayyid Qutb:

      Qutb was the author of one of Islamism’s most important books, Milestones, which called for the restoration of Islam by re-establishing the Sharia and by using “physical power and Jihad for abolishing the organizations and authorities of the Jahili system, which he believed to include the entire Muslim world.

      The Sharia is a anathema to the Western way of thought, and the “clash of civiliztions” as one wag put it seems inevitable.

  • J.M.R.

    what do you expect from a rag head dick-tater here in the U.S.A. if we had a senate they would impeach this a&& and put him in front of a firing squad.

    • Karolyn

      Totally useless comment.

      • Brad

        Karolyn,

        Truth hurts, we must have hit a soft spot. When the history books are done with Obama it will be writen he was the worst president this country has ever seen since Jimmy Carter. Are you embarassed yet Karolyn?

        • http://deleted Claire

          I will take the liberty of answering this–No, I am not embarassed– I am heartsick. I am heartsick of what past administrations and current politicians have contributed towards this mess America is in.

        • Tazio2013

          Brad,

          Wrong again; cheney bush is without doubt the worst president in US history!

          • Brad

            Tazio2013,

            You sir are wrong!!! Are you insinuating that Obama is the best of the worst presidents because Obama ranks well below Carter. In two years Bush didn’t add over 4 Trillion to the national debt, gave us a national health care system that’s going to bankrupt this country, so try again fool, you are so wrong on so many different points.

          • JUKEBOX

            I thought Bush’s first name was GEORGE, not Cheney.

          • Lewis Munn

            Bush was nothing but a severely alcoholic brain-damaged tool run by commands from “shoot your hunting buddy” Cheney. I hear nobody blaming Cheney, or trying to find out who commanded him.

            You folks need to ease off on Bush and admit rather Cheney ran him as a figurehead, and then go back to who ran Cheney.

            Leave the poor brain-damaged guy alone, and go after those who hid behind him and ran him!

          • Pat R

            Bush stole us blind. Remember 911? That was done by Bush & Co. (both Bushes) to cover up the theft of the Gold under the Twin Towers and stored in a closed Airfield in the desert in Arizona. IMO that is why the Government has been so against Arizona on everything they try to do.
            Protecting the Gold! Obama knows about all this and they have been fighting the Global Settlements, but now the gold has been recovered and payments are being processed. Both Bushes, Obama and whomever else,
            including Bill and Hillary Clinton should be locked up and tried for Treason.

    • JIBBS

      @ JMR, you are correct, Labama needs to be removed asap, he has no idea what is going on or how to fix what went wrong. Maybe he is thinking of another week-end get away. Some place to hide til things cool off His spine seems to be more like that of a jelly fish, than steel.

      • eddie47d

        Jibbs;What should he do about Egypt? How would you handle it JIBBS? It’s a Muslim country so more than likely it will be run by a Muslim. Mubarak is a Muslim but has over extended his time in office. You wouldn’t put up with a 30 year term or even a 12 year term so which side are you on? Would you put up with the Internet being shut down like Mubarak did? Take a stand on the issue instead of useless verbiage.

        • Brad

          Edwardo,

          We already know Obama has no spine, he’s only inspired the radicals and ridiculed Mubarack. Egypt has voted for this corrupt fool for 30 year’s and yes it’s their problem not ours and Obama needs to keep us out of their internal affairs, instead he’s flaming them.

          • eddie47d

            Where is he inflaming them? Using caution and staying out of their way is hardly taking sides and we shouldn’t be stifling the voice of their people.

          • Brad

            Edwardo,

            Obama and Hillary step’d into it a few days sfter the riots started, he backed Mubarak which infuriated the rioters. Obama has backed off recently only because he was told to by his masters.

          • Tom from Idaho

            Mr Ed. If you read the article, there was no intelligence in the intelligence community and Hillary’s State department to keep anyone apprised as to what was (is) going on in Egypt. Also, if you read the article (which is apparent that you did not), we (the US) need to be very wary of the ramifications if the Muslim Brotherhood (basically a terrorist group) gets power in the government of Egypt. That is the point of being involved at all. Those ramifications are important to the rest of the world as well. This regime (i. e. Obama’s) has had several opportunities to make the world a better place just by supporting for the good and he blew it (on purpose, I think). Iran just this past year is a good example of that. Now we have the same ‘ol corrupt same ‘ol dicatatorship with sharia law in Iran. That pattern will continue until someone helps empower the people in those countries. It’s about the real and true “social justice”. Isn’t that what you are for, Mr. Ed?

          • eddie47d

            Absolutely, Mubarak has been in power too long if you hadn’t noticed. Maybe he was trying to pull a Castro and ignore the plight of his people. Some leaders just don’t understand when it is time for them to go.

          • Brad

            Edwardo,

            Hmmm Egypt has a population of 83 million and approximately 1.5% of the population is rioting, so what’s wrong with the other 98.5% of the population. So the minority is making the majority cowtow to their whims, you and this administration approve of this behavior. God help us all.

          • eddie47d

            You did make a good point about that 1.5% So should we put that in Tea Party terms. The majority of Americans voted for Obama in 2008 and some of you refuse to accept that. So there is a minority out there saying he is wrong. Then we’ll go to 2010 where those small crowds of Tea Partiers made in roads in the elections But according to you since they didn’t represent the majority they shouldn’t have a voice. Now remember a few Tea Party candidates did win but under the Republican banner. So since they were so small in number on the streets that would make them irrelivant and we should stop listening to them.

          • Jana

            eddie,
            The TEA Party people are not out there tearing the country apart. They are not out there robbing and stealing and causing fires. They are peacefully exercising their right to gather together because they are like minded.

        • RPH1045

          I think that Obama is a Muslim,and you said that Murbarak shut down the internet, isn’t thats what Obama wants to do to us with his kill switch on our internet here and to think he wants to become a dictator but he isn’t yet is he.

          • kate8

            RPH0145 – The PTB need to be able to prevent communication during a state of civil unrest. That is what they plan for us as well, as they are marching us toward the same thing.

        • Michael J.

          eddie47d,
          Using MSM logic it seems that Obama’s heated rhetoric spoken at his 2009 speech in front of students at the Egyptian University and subsequent snippets aimed at Mubarak himself in recent days may have given rise to this violent, bloody upheval reminiscent of the Tucson travesty.
          I mean, I’m just sayin.

          • eddie47d

            Yeah, you are always “just saying” or is that saying nothing relevant in this case.

          • Brad

            Edwardo,

            We already know the MSM slants to the left, they won’t protray Obama in a bad light. So who’s tell the truth?

          • Michael J.

            eddie47d,
            Definition of relevant = Having a bearing on or connection with the matter at hand.

            Sounds pretty relevant to me. Just because you can’t escape the parallels, doesn’t give you a reason to change the subject.

          • eddie47d

            Brad; Fox leans to the right and won’t say anything bad about Palin. So get over yourself and stop playing tag team unless you have something important to say.

      • 45caliber

        JIBBS:

        Whenever Clinton was in trouble, he attacked someone – a camel in a tent in Afghanistan, Somalia, etc. Whenever Oblama gets in a crack, he takes a vacation. I’m not sure which costs us the least money.

    • JR

      For what? Because is supposedly is a Muslim…ohh gasp…show me where it is written in the constitution that a Muslim can not be the president of the US? So, even if he would come out openly and state he is a Muslim (something he is not and everyone who has studied Islam knows this) this is still no legal reason to impeach. In fact, don’t you believe in your governments function and hate? Trust me, if there would be anything he did that would stand up legally to warrant impeachment…some Obama hater in congress….and there are many….would already started the process.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        JR,
        No because he isn’t a natural born citizen!

    • spitfire

      J.M.R. you are totally correct, but the problem is the senate is mostly Democratic liberal communists, bent on the destruction of America as it is currently.

  • http://wwwroyaltoypoodle.com maxi

    It looks like Egypt is going from bad to worst. A dictator may not have been their ideal ruler but if the Muslims take over things are going to get much worse again. The graves left by Hussein are going to be filled again with more bodies. those anti Muslim dissetants will be targeted. the people protesting probably don’t have a clue.

    • eddie47d

      Egypt is a Muslim country and ruled by a Muslim. They have been Muslim for at least a thousand years or more. If you can’t help them in their cry for Freedom then step aside.Maybe Mubarak thinks he is the new Pharaoh.

      • Brad

        Edwardo,

        Mubarak is a moderate muslim and not very religous, he hates radical islam and the terroists, it was the MB which killed Anwar Sadat for making peace with Isreal. So you are telling us now, you would rather see Egypt opressed further under islam and sharia law, give us a break you have no idea what you are talking about.

        • eddie47d

          Yes the killing of Sadat was a tragedy for this peacemaker. We have groups in America that want to kill Obama. Are you proud of them? Do you want to jail them or stop them from voting. Mubarak jailed and tortured thousands of Muslim Brotherhood citizens. He inflamed the situation and turned more Egyptians against him.It’s shallow trying to stay in power as long as he did and it’s clear he has lost touch with his fellow Egyptians. I am not trying to beat up on Mubarak and I’m sure in the past he did some good. We have term limits for President so why do you tolerate it so much in other nations?

          • Jana

            eddie,
            We have had “groups” that have wanted to kill every President. That is why they are protected by their body guards and the Secret Service.

          • Brad

            Edwardo said,

            “Yes the killing of Sadat was a tragedy for this peacemaker. We have groups in America that want to kill Obama. Are you proud of them? Do you want to jail them or stop them from voting. Mubarak jailed and tortured thousands of Muslim Brotherhood citizens”.

            I will never approve of any group which condones the murder of any individual to include our president, you must or you wouldn’t have posted the comment! Do you have proof Mubarak jailed and tortured MB members?

            “He inflamed the situation and turned more Egyptians against him”.

            Corruption is what inflamed the country, lack of jobs, people not being able to take care of their own business, that’s why they are rioting.

            “It’s shallow trying to stay in power as long as he did and it’s clear he has lost touch with his fellow Egyptians. I am not trying to beat up on Mubarak and I’m sure in the past he did some good. We have term limits for President so why do you tolerate it so much in other nations”?

            Congress set term limits on the president, only after FDR passed away while in office in 1945 and while serving his forth term. Tolerate term limits, it’s their country, they set the rules, if Egyptians have voted for Mubarak for 30 years it’s what they wanted.

          • eddie47d

            Yes Brad they have been tortured. Maybe a few of them deserved it but not the thousands who have been jailed. That is a leader out of control.

          • Brad

            So where’s the proof eddie47d

          • JeffH

            Brad says: “So where’s the proof eddie47d”?
            History shows that eddie has no proof.

          • eddie47d

            I know you can’t help it Jeff but stop lying. Stop telling others to do your homework for you too. Look up Muslim Brotherhood and torture. What I said is not in defense of M.B.’s assassination attempts either. Some of their history is as sordid as Nassars and Mubaraks.From 1954 on(Nassar) did jail and tortured thousands. Not so many under Sadat but Mubarak resumed it. In 2005 the Ikhwans (M.B.’s)won 20% of vote which didn’t please Mubarak and he jailed the opposition. Then set up rules to further keep them out of power. Something you surely must approve of?) The Muslim Brotherhood made further inroads in the 2010 elections (Ikhwans) and the crackdowns continued. Those last elections and beatings spurred them to the streets just as much as the Tunisia overthrow.I certainly hope that the M.B.’s don’t get too powerful but they are part of the political process in Egypt.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JeffH,
            I think I just figured it out!! eddie doesn’t know how to post sites!!! He has to get someone to do it for him! When he doesn’t have someone, there he refuses to post sites!!

          • eddie47d

            Poor Joe can’t stand the truth so he turns to ridicule.If you can prove me wrong then go for it or back off. Play nice or I’ll put Pelosi in bed with you tonight.

          • JeffH

            eddie, you are a riot. I want someone else to do my research for me? I’m a liar? ROFLMA!

            You said, “Mubarak jailed and tortured thousands of Muslim Brotherhood citizens.” Now the Muslim Brotherhood is a nation with citizens? I’ve done my homework and I know you already read it, you even made your typical weak attempt to ridicule me without success and you have the nerve to accuse someone of not doing their own homework. You are a liar and a complete hypocrit to the nth degree.

          • JeffH

            …and JoeH, you’re 100% correct!

      • Dan az

        Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak’s announcement today that he will not seek re-election and his country will have a peaceful, democratic political transition, if true, has “pulled the rug,” from under the feet of the fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood, former Assistant Defense Secretary K.T. McFarland told Fox News’ Neil Cavuto.

        Now there is a “fighting chance that there will be a peaceful transition,” McFarland said, noting that it previously had been believed that Mubarak planned “to rule from the grave,” pushing for his son Gamal to succeed him in the presidency he has held three decades.

        “The Muslim Brotherhood just had the rug pulled out from under them,” she said. “This will be a peaceful transition. They [the protesters] are not burning the American flag

        Read more on Newsmax.com: Ex-Defense Official McFarland: Mubarak Foiled Muslim Brotherhood
        Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama’s Re-Election? Vote Here Now!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Danaz,
          I don’t know about that. The news reels I saw on Fox and BBC showed there was still a lot of fighting going on! They just might not be willing to wait till his term is up!

      • 45caliber

        eddie:

        Where are you getting the idea that the people there are “crying for freedom”?

        The ONLY people I’ve heard say that are the press – and I don’t like their opinions.

        The people there are upset because they don’t like the corruption and the lack of jobs/bad economy. At least that is all I’ve heard them say. They want the existing government replaced to eliminate those problems. If it is replaced by another dictator who does clean up the corruption, they will be happy with him.

        • eddie47d

          Maybe those who lost their Internet access are the ones “crying for freedom”.I doubt if the word has a clear meaning in any “dictatorship”.I also doubt if the Muslim Brotherhood understands the concept either.So we have to listen to several sources.

  • http://Yahoo Anne Crickenberger

    Has it entered anyone’s mind that Obama may be fueling this mess in Egypt. I know the Islamic radicals are just waiting to get in and take over Egypt. This is the Islamic terrorists’ goal to spread Islamic law over the entire globe and I don’t care what (so call peace loving Muslims) say they are supporting the radicals with money and other help to achieve this. Obama is a MUSLIM we can tell by his actions not what he says! He was raised as one and he has been photograph taking his shoes off and praying with them in the White House. If anyone believes anything Obama says now you really are one of the most stupid people in the world or the most naive!

    • Karolyn

      So you say. And who are you? Oh! I guess you’re a psychic and a scholar of world politics?

      • Brad

        Karolyn,

        Who canceled the national day of prayer? Who invited Muslims to the white house to pray on ramadon? Who bowed and kissed the ring of the King of Saudi Arabia? Who never travels with his wife in the middle east? Karolyn go ahead and believe in your potus because I don’t, he has even stated in times of trouble he would side with the muslims.

      • http://timesays dave

        Karolyn

        Based on what i read of Annes posts she does indeed have a good grasp of what is happening with the world , which is far more than i can say for you ! You have no clue Karolyn!!
        It was Karock Insein Nobuma that went over to the university of Ciaro several months back and was bad mouthing the United States and inciting hatred amongst the young students of the university. That was all part of obumas apology tour that did even more to cast the United States in a bad light to the world along with his bowing to foriegn dictators.
        Weakness breads agression. nobumas wink wink nod nod type of coddling of islasmists is breading a rapid escalation in violence in the world in general. The trashing of the US economy by nobuma and the trashing of the dollar by the fed is escallating inflation ( food infllation is soaring) and people are rightfully concerned where their next meal will come from and if they will be able to afford it.
        Those same kind of riots could come to a neighborhood near you someday if things continue in the direction they are going currently in the US with the scumocraps in congress and nobuma racking up trillions in debt and the fed printing dollars with reckless abandon to try and keep up.

      • American Citizen

        Karolyn, you can bury your head in the sand, but you’ll be kicked in the end.

    • http://deleted Claire

      Anne–sorry, but if you believe most of what other politicians say, then you are naive too.

      • Jana

        Claire,
        Anne is right. Read the Hadiths and read the Qu’ran and you will see that these are the mandates of Islam.

        • Jana

          Again, Anne C is right. Look at his actions. Where is his love? His love of the Qu’ran and of Islam is great. Only if you have blinders on would you not see this.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Jana–I made a comment referring to ALL politicians re–her last sentence. You know good and well I do not harbor any favoritism to the muslim cult and their so-called Quran.

          • eddie47d

            Anne; We have been Egypt’s caretaker for about 40 years which includes Sadat. The Egyptian people are their own people,they want their own life. They don’t hate Americans like some of you hate this MUSLIM nation. You want to control their lives and be able to tell them what to do. Well,after 30 years of Mubarak they feel they have had enough. Back off and encourage free elections and less influence from foreign sources.Before us they had the Russians trying to influence their lives. The Russians built the Aswan Dam but even that wasn’t enough for them to be manipulated by them. Nurture this transition and stop stirring up their anger even more.

          • Michael J.

            eddie47d says;
            “We have been Egypt’s caretaker for about 40 years which includes Sadat”.
            True enough Eddie, Sadat was assasinated for making peace with Isreal by radical Islamist extremist associated with the Muslim Brotherhood. Right or wrong Mubarak has had the support of American Presidents in exchange for maintaining peace with Isreal to the tune of 1.5 billion per year. What has changed is that we now have a president who shares the same disdain for Isreal as the radical Islamist extremist.

          • Dan az

            Some in Israel have compared US president Barack Obama’s response to the crisis to that of former US president Jimmy Carter to the Iranian revolution in 1979. Obama has called on Mubarak to show restraint and pass unspecified reforms in Egypt.

            “Jimmy Carter will go down in American history as ‘the president who lost Iran’, which during his term went from being a major strategic ally of the United States to being the revolutionary Islamic republic,” Aluf Benn, an analyst in Haaretz, wrote.

            “Barack Obama will be remembered as the president who ‘lost’ Turkey, Lebanon and Egypt, and during whose tenure America’s alliances in the Middle East crumbled.”

            Still, the Obama administration has stopped short of calling for the resignation of president Mubarak, and as of Sunday, the Pentagon continued to have high-level discussions with the Egytian military.

            Former Israeli general Yaakov Amidror said that in the short term, Israel will face increased smuggling activities in the Sinai peninsula, where the authority of the Cairo government has been further weakened by the unrest.

            As a result of Israel’s blockade of the Gaza strip, widely lambasted as inhumane and an obstacle to the peace process, weapons, fuel and other goods enter the Hamas-controlled territory.

            “They will now try to get in everything they couldn’t get in before,” Amidror said.

            Israel captured Sinai in 1967 and then ceded it to Egypt in the 1979 peace deal. The area was demilitarised as part of the agreement.

            For now, the unrest seems to have had the opposite effect. Gaza smugglers said the supply routes have been disrupted and that they have not received any merchandise from Egypt since Friday, apparently because of difficulties in transporting the goods across Egypt to the Gaza border.

          • eddie47d

            Michael; That was Reagan that lost Lebanon. Because Carter lost Iran makes it even more imperative that we moderate which side we are on in Egypt. The people have spoken so we have an opportunity to make the right decisions and encouraging a voice for the average person in Egypt. This should have been done at least 20 years ago so why have we allowed this to fester for so many years? These protests need to work themselves out first and encouragement for an orderly transition. How about less money for military hardware and more for schools and higher education. What a novel idea in changing a country!

          • Jana

            Claire, that last comment was not made to you but Karolyn’s post. My bad, I should have put her name on it. I do know you and know that you do not hold with the Muslim cult. :)

          • http://deleted Claire

            Jana– No problem.

          • Michael J.

            Eddie47d says:
            “Michael; That was Reagan that lost Lebanon”.
            I don’t know where Lebanon comes into play here, do you think that Sadat was president of Lebanon or something?

            Everybody agrees that the Egyptian people deserve a better shot and Mubarak should receive the same justice as Hussein did. I mean Saddam, not Barak, (because of the name it’s so easy to confuse the two).

            Egyptians are screaming for democracy right now and Allah knows they deserve it, but deserving something is no assurance that you will get it. We may instead be witnessing a radical Islamist take over which would mean a net loss of our largest ally in the region, put extremist in control of the Suez Canal and spell doom for Isreal. Not to mention inflicting Sharia law on 80 million people who would probably rather not have it.

            And lastly, how is it that when the stakes are so high in such global confligrations as this, that all you liberals consider as a solution is building more schools and providing higher education?

            You, all by yourself are justification for the following old addage:

            “Want to save the whales? Call a Liberal…
            “Want to save the planet? Call a Conservative…”

          • eddie47d

            It was Dan who mentioned Lebanon and Conservatives better hurry up if they want to save this planet. Some of them are pretty good at killing whales though. Oh I guess conservative American don’t do that anymore but do little to stop Japan and Norway from doing the same.

          • Michael J.

            eddie47d,
            What would you have us do, nuke Japan again, and Norway too, boy, some peace monger you are!

          • eddie47d

            Trying to be brilliant again Michael? I wouldn’t wish nukes on anyone and am fairly disgusted with conventional wars to. Japan breaks the laws on hunting Whales all the time by labeling these kills scientific research. They are full of it and make money on the deal too. Every nation has there bad apples and it takes years to get them to stop.

    • Michael J.

      Anne,
      Yes, it has entered my mind that Obama, his administration and appointed czars are woven together like a rug with the Muslim Brotherhood.

    • spitfire

      Yes Islam is now making its move on world domination, and have been in preperation for this how many years?? Those of you who do not believe in the bible should maybe rethink that one, and those of you who do know what this all means. It is now moving rapidly towards a great event.

    • http://timesays dave

      Anne

      I think You make a great thought provoking point .

  • Tazio2013

    John Meyers continues to channel Glenn Beck so, suggest that all you crusading christian, white wing wackos relax and take another sip of Fox Noise Kool-ade. Eighty million plus Egyptians just want a bit of freedom from the tyrant Mubarak that the Republikrats maintained in power for thirty years . Maybe this will cause the Ashkenazi Israelis to start thinking and acting like decent human beings. Definitely a drama worth knowing on the Internet.

    • rosina

      tHIRTY YEARS OF REPUBLICANS????
      GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Check your history and you will see that in the last thirty years, the demoncraps ruled the roost for MOST OF IT in the Congress.

      • Tazio2013

        rosina,

        Wake up; the operative word is “Republikrats”. FYI, the US has had one party rule since 1913. Do you understand the meaning of “Hegelian Dialectic”?

        • Al Sieber

          Tazio,I understand exactly what you’re talking about.

          • spitfire

            My question to both Al Sieber and Tazio 2013 is do you believe in “Hegelian Dialectic”?

          • Tazio2013

            Thanks, Al; it appears that there are only a few of us “Onepercenters” who actually think before we write.
            The vast majority of these crusading christian, white wing wacko, PLD pinheads can only regurgitate the palin beck/fox noise nonsense.

          • Michael J.

            Tazio,
            OK, that’s your thesis, But my antithesis is that news and knowledge are where you find them. It’s the job of each of us to synthesize.

          • Brad

            Tazio,

            So you think before you write, how do you know all of us are “white wing radicals” it sounds as if you are being racist? You must be a black left wing radical, am I being racist or does the truth hurt!

          • Dr. Mabuse

            Yo Spit,
            Its not a question of belief. The dialectic is an algorithm.
            It seems to be working if one uses 1913 as the point of reference.
            Didn’t Stanky Bernanke say he wasn’t gonna reveal where the money went to? I wonder what the “solution” for that is?

          • Al Sieber

            So Spitfire and Brad, I’m suppose to agree with you guys and disregard what Tazio says? you need to read history regarding the Federal Reserve, which was established around Christmas 1913, you need to read “The History of the Money Changers” by A. Hitchcock and get away from the right left paradigm. also F.D. Roosevelt was a SOB, he really escalated the Socialist take over of the U.S.. the problems we have now are a result of the Fed. Reserve and complacency.

        • http://timesays dave

          YOU !!!! Mr Tazio and your ilk are the ones that need to wake up. You come on here spouting off about issues that it is obvious you dont have a clue about. There hasnt been anyone from isreal in the last 50 years strapping a bomb to their waist and going out and blowing up innocent civilians!!! You seem to have an intense hatred for Israel and the jewish people as well as for conservative principles and i would think after 40 years of the cancer of liberalism in this world people would have finally had enough of it . The rulers of most middle eastern nations came into power while liberal democraps ruled in this country.
          Jana has it exactly right about you Tazio.

          • Dr. Mabuse

            Can you explain to me the difference between an Israeli Jew and a Israeli Zionist?

          • Al Sieber

            Dr. Mabuse, I can explain the difference, but it would take several pages, and I always get in trouble on this website. people that want to know can go to “iamthewitness.com. people are to sensitive to this issue and are brain washed by political correctness which started under the Clinton Adm.

          • Al Sieber

            dave, if you think Israel is such a innocent country then you need to do some research, I’ve been over there a few times, and seen things I didn’t believe, and they suppress their own people, they are not a Democracy, they’re a Theocracy and they have great influence in our Govt., there’s a difference between Zionists, and the Jewish people, there are Christian Zionists also, take the time to find out. I’ll probably take a lot of “Flack” for this post but, I can handle it.

      • Jana

        rosina,
        You are so right. Tazio sounds like he is a Muslim coming from Islam and will try to say anything to cause a bad reaction. The democrats are being infiltrated by Islam. They are just pawns in their hands.

    • Zoey

      I feel sorry for you, all you Democrats know how to do is name call and point the finger of blame at anyone but yourselves. I think that the president is a Muslim at heart, that is how he was raised and schooled in his younger years. He studied the Koran. So he is at odds with this whole situation, he doesn’t know how to react. He doesn’t want to upset the Muslims and he’s walking on thin ice. However, he is NOW the president of the US., and he must get his priorities straight. He needs to stand up and say we will not tolerate The Brotherhood of Muslims or any radical group running the middle east.This is an extremely dangerous situation, we need strong leadership!! I feel bad for us all, Democrats and Repubs alike, because a man was voted in who had no world experience at all,and with Muslim roots. He just doesn’t know who to side with. This is a mistake that we most likely will come to regret when world war three starts or the radicals go in to destroy Israel and we have to choose sides. I just want to make some honest points and not name call like you have chosen to do. We need to unite and do what is right for “OUR COUNTRY”.

      • eddie47d

        All too often “taking sides”,especially with international situations is a code word for war. Maybe it’s time to stop taking sides and stay out of the business of other peoples business. We will still be friends with Egypt if we play our cards right. It can’t come down for their people to choose pro-American or Anti-American so the decisions must be on them.

        • Michael J.

          eddie47d,
          Agreed, We’ll leave you alone if you go somewhere else to do your business instaed of all over this thread.

          • eddie47d

            Another censorship cop.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            I didn’t see anything about censorship in Michael J’s post to you. I have seen a news story about your hero Nobama wanting a killswitch for the internet and I haven’t seen you arguing against it. HYPOCRITE!!!!!

    • Tinman

      Yes and Real Americans want a break form the freeloaders. We would like to keep our money that we work for. Not give it in the name of taxes to freeloading libatards who want to pass it around to the lazy ones.
      “DOWN WITH THE EAGLE UP WITH THE CROSS”

  • Karolyn

    Well, today the pro-Mubarak protesters are fighting in the streets. No one really knows what will happen. It’s up to the Egyptians.

    • bob wire

      kinda like it should be don’t you think Karolyn?

      Let’s the meanest, most determined dog win.

    • Michael J.

      Karolyn,
      Not pro-Mubarak protestors, rather Mubarak mercenaries. We’ve seen this movie before, non-uniformed government thugs sent in to disperse the crowds. Straight from the Iranian Mullah’s handbook, “crowd suppression for dummies”.

      • Karolyn

        I was amazed at the Mubarak supporters attacking American reporters. I just thought to myself “What a-holes.” Don’t they know that the US has been a Mubarak supporter? I guess they’re just ignorant sycophants. Nobody had any problems with the anti-Mubarak people. They were all peaceful. It figures.

  • Moby

    Bob, you do know Mubarak was there for thirty years, right? He came to power when Reagan did. So why don’t Reagan, Bush I, Clinton and Bush II have any responsibility for this dictator’s rule? Admit it, they were all fine with him just like Reagan was okay with Saddam Hussein because he was a bulwark against Iran. Singling out Obama is just another sign that either you don’t know history or just like to distort it for your own purposes.

    • eddie47d

      Well said and it’s getting rather old.

  • Tazio2013

    And for those very few followers of John Meyers/Glenn Beck who are sufficiently intelligent to comprehend the current situation in Egypt, read this for a knowledgeable POV based on principles of objective reality:

    http://www.thedailybell.com/1731/Middle-East-Dreamtime.html

    • Jana

      Tazio,
      I knew it! You are a Muslim. This site is a Muslim / Islamic site. They blame us for EVERYTHING.
      An unnamed source even declares we have had secret meetings with their youth to start these uprisings.

      • Tazio2013

        Jana,

        Google “objective reality” and get back to me when you grow a brain.

        • Brad

          Tazio,

          Get back to us when you have some “objective reality”

    • spitfire

      Tazio are you able to make your own mind up on a subject, without reading another mans opinion???? Is a book another mans opinion,or fact??

      • eddie47d

        You are right yet most on this site bring up far right threads and say they are the gospel.They aren’t always truthful either.

        • Brad

          Edwardo,

          Two wrongs don’t make a right, at times the truth hurts no matter where it comes from.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          This from Mr huff n toke himself eddie!! Again, HYPOCRITE!!!

  • Ron

    The UNited States Government needs to keep its nose out of every other countries business.We fight their wars & what does it change?Nothing.The US is becoming the laughing stock of the world.We help them & what do we get in return?Suicide bombers,leftist radicals,higher oil prices.It is a pity we let the environmental nuts run the oil supplies here.The US has enough oil in the ground right here to turn the tide on the countries that we are depending on right now for crude.Dismantle OPEC,bring the foreign aid money back to who it really belongs to, US,drill,drill,drill.Get the egotistical nuts out of the White House & get someone in that will not drain the working US citizen of every last dime we have.Signed:A GOD fearing,Gun toting US citizen like many more that are fed up with doing without!!!!!!!!!!

    • JIBBS

      Then tell your buddy Barry, to let us drill for our own oil ! Oh yeah, he wont let us. Would you like to be President of the SHEEPLE club ?

      • eddie47d

        Since you want to go off subject. They opened up 3,000 wells in Colorado so they are indeed drilling for oil and natural gas. That is all in just one county so now they have 18,000 well heads working.

        • Brad

          Edwardo,

          Whats your source, the greenies would have been all over the opening of 3000 so called oil wells in Colorado?

    • Jana

      Ron,
      You are so right. We should be using our own natural resources while working on new energy ideas. We need to get off of being dependent on other countries.
      I heard a man talking about the fact that they used to issue permits to search and drill, one every three days. Now they issue one every 30 days, and if all of the i’s are not dotted or t’s crossed correctly, you are denied and your new request goes to the bottom of the pile. The oil rigs are leaving to go to other countries.

    • spitfire

      Ron from a diehard conservative, I will say you are mostly correct, except about us messing in other countries business. Really think about that for a few minutes and see if you can tell what would have happened if we had done what you suggest since lets say WWII? We are and have been the “worlds police department”. The world, like any city, needs a police department. WE have chosen to be that police department to provide us with our security and standard of living. It is not that we care so much about the rest of the world, it is that we care more about ourselves and America.

      Imagine what will happen if that police department is taken away. Its really scary for sure.

      • BobbyB

        And that’s the problem. I don’t recall anyone asking us to be the worlds policeman and I’ve been here for 57 years. When the new Boogie Man, the Islamofascist came to being, those desiring their destruction claimed that Hate us for our freedom. That’s not the case. Those that hate us hate us for our meddling. They hate us for the millions of innocents we have killed to enable our business interest around the world.
        If we are the worlds policeman, we have failed miserably.

  • Richard

    What is Obama good for besides the oppression of the American people? I wish we had John Bolton in the White House!

    • eddie47d

      Compared to what? You sound like another childish spoiled American who wants more and more and then you still aren’t satisfied! You may be depressed but stop depressing the rest of us.

      • Brad

        Edwardo,

        We want commonsence leadership not far left or far right leadership that’s going no where fast. Bolton, Trump these guys would provide commonsence leadership that this country dearly needs.

        • eddie47d

          The Denver Post,National News. Your attacks against “greenies” doesn’t cut it with this one and seldom does.

          • Brad

            Sorry Edwardo have to bust your bubble again,

            From the denverpost 11/17/2010 Cash-strapped Colo. state parks MAY open up to more oil, gas drilling. Goggled the story I did.

            Read it and weap edwardo they MAY open up oil and natural gas drilling, so it hasn’t happened yet, get your facts strait dude.

          • Brad

            By the way Colorados state legislature has to approve any type drilling, they’re going to consider it but it hasn’t happened yet.

          • eddie47d

            You didn’t burst my bubble for it had nothing to do with Rocky Mountain National Park. These wells are in Weld County Colorado and the permits have been approved.

          • Brad

            Again Edwardo wheres your proof,

            That’s right you have none, at the end of 2010 weld county held only 36% approved drilling leases where as garfield county held 34% of the leases totaling less than 1800 proposed wells. There were a total of 36 active drilling rigs working those 1800 leases. The high was 2888 in 2008 and has fallen the last two years to the 1800 level. There has been only one organization to strike light sweet crude and that was back in Feb. 2010. So where are the 3000 rigs you are talking about percounty?

          • eddie47d

            Weld County is one county and all 3,000 permits were issued for that county. There may be more in other counties but I don’t have the figures.

  • Victoria DeLacy

    It is not all that surprising that Obama refuses to intervene against practitioners of Islam no matter how radical they may be, given that his actual convictions were on display in recent years as he rejected traditional observances of the National Day of Prayer in the White House for the first time ever yet had no aversion to embracing an observance of the Muslim Ramadan. We have seen where his empathies dwell, and that is unfortunately NOT with Christianity. We will hopefully see a change to more appropriate leadership with a new Commander-in-Chief to be elected to that position from the Republican side in 2012. In the meanwhile, time to PRAY per II Chronicles 7:14.

    • Jana

      Victoria DeLacy,
      EXACTLY.

      We know him by his actions, and we know him by the company he keeps.

  • Jack54

    Subject…If it wasn`t for our leaders…the majority of all people on this earth would be friends!

    A long time ago I was watching a program on PBS…on the Trans Siberian Railroad…it was taking place during the early 1970`s…before the end of the Soviet Union…a young German couple were taking a trip on the Trans Siberian Railroad…a trip on this railroad was more of a pack/bring your own excursion than the wine and dine of western world transportation…the young German couple brought their own beer, wine, bread etc. for the trip…as did others taking this trip…the German couple met Russians etc…during the trip the Germans became friends with Russians…they learned to share together…to put past biases behind them regarding the war of destruction intiated by Hitler…

    Personally, I have worked for Islamic owned businesses…and have worked with Islamic people…the people with the cash…the owners…they cling to the old Islamic ways…why?…because it gives them total control…even a little more so than the curent US politically correct system of capitalism…

    I worked with this young engineer named Ali…he was my computer scheduler…he was foreign born from Mauritius…he graduated from a college in Michigan…the Islamic owners who hired him did not pay him very well…he was renting a room…I told him he could move in with me…I had a large (3) floor townhouse…I lived in the bottom floor with my dog Morgan…Morgie the Corgi…the bottom floor had its own bathroom/shower, carpeting, was cooler and Morgie could run around on the carpet covered concrete floor without creating a noise problem…

    Anyhow, according to Islam…dogs are evil…dogs devoured Mohammeds carcuss…also, Islam forbids the drinking of beer and eating of pork…within a month after Ali had moved into my townhouse…he was drinking beer…eating pork that we grilled on the barbeque…and walking my dog…and loved it…he was becoming a western world American…of course the Islamic group accused me of corrupting him…too bad…I told them that in the US Ali has these freedoms…although a business owner in the US can essentially terminate your employment at will…

    In watching CNN and the current uprising in the Middle East…I sense that most of the people have a desire to live in a Democracy…to be friends with westerners…most of the Islamics I worked with had this same desire…but there was always the fear of the more radical owners…the fear of conforming to the doctrines of Islam forced upon them by the owners/leaders who benefit from the dictatorship focus it allows them…

    Have a nice day

    • Jana

      Jack54,
      That was a beautiful example of the truth. There are a lot of Muslims who truly good people. Also, a lot of Muslims just want to partake of the freedoms this country gives them.
      The problem with Islam is they are about control. You will notice that you will hardly ever hear from a Muslim/Islamic woman. They would not be allowed on these sites, nor are they supposed to have an opinion other than what her husband believes, let alone express it.

      • BobbyB

        There are some christians that are the same way

        • Cawmun Cents

          Make no mistake,here under the Christian God,you have freedom to complain,be homosexual,adulterers,thieving,owning firearms,speaking out in public.A Christian may not like you doing these things and may try to get you to stop,but the Muslims will just kill you all.They will smile at you leftist and act your friend.But as soon as they make the laws they will cull you like a nun culls a bad habit.You have the choice out there you leftist scum,who is going to be your God?Theirs or ours?You make the choice and live with it.Because you damn sure will die with it if you choose wrongly.You may hate Christians,but you know us.You dont know anything about the muslims and how you will be treated once they attain power over you.One or the other make your choice now…let us know who do you trust?That way we know who is for America and who is against America.

  • Ray

    Why is anyone suprised at Obama’s silence?
    The only thing he has done in his life is talk, talk, talk – without a clue of what means.

  • Tazio2013
    • spitfire

      Tazio2013. May I ask you a serious question? What country are you from??

      • eddie47d

        spitfire;Are you against freedom and democracy(republic)? Do you value your rights but want to suppress other peoples desires to want the same things you have? Do you look at other nations and expect them to bow down to us? Nor should we to them! Are you one to look at another country and say they are not like us so let’s exploit them? They are poorer and that give us a right to use them to satisfy our needs? Do we treat them with respect when we are doing business with them? Do we allow their governments to be corrupt or insincere about helping their own people;as long as we get what we want? Depending on how you answer those questions will determine how you really feel about freedom and America itself. These questions could relate to any country and to even those countries that use and abuse us.

        • Brad

          Right now Edwardo, I believe you would undo all our freedoms and cowtow to the worlds dictators. America has the utmost respect for other country’s but we won’t take crap off of another country trying to bully us or our friends.

          • eddie47d

            Then stop bulling them! That is a two way street and what they have isn’t ours and what we have isn’t theirs. Treat them fair and square and expect the same from them.If they don’t want to play nice then we can always come home. Rather simple actually.

          • Brad

            Edwardo,

            That’s where you don’t get it, the US is the most giving nation on this earth, what you call a two street I agree with. Communication has to be two way, we put our best foot forward and have had it stomped on so many times but when the shoe is on the other foot we will welcome the other country with open arms, so the two way street doesn’t go both ways. I spent 20 year’s in the US Navy and never did I see the military or the US diplomatic corps bully another nation unless it was an enemy, ie: Iraq 90-91. In 2003 a lot of anti-war protestors were making the claim we where in Iraq for the oil; today how much Iragi oil has the US taken from them? Its simple dude NONE, NODA, NOTHING.

          • eddie47d

            We aren’t getting the oil from Iraq because too many wells were damaged in the war. Iraq can’t even rebuild these wells and get them up to capacity.That is why we aren’t getting the oil we were expecting.

          • Brad

            Come again edwardo,

            Iraq in 2010 had been producing approximately 2.0 million barrels a day. Try again friend

          • eddie47d

            Pray tell where that oil is going then?

          • JeffH

            Iraq: BP, Chinese win lucrative oil contract
            July 1, 2009
            BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) — Iraq awarded a lucrative oil contract to BP and China National Petroleum Corp., government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said Wednesday, while rejecting other companies’ offers for other oil fields.

            The joint BP-CNPC bid was for the al-Rumeila oil field, one of the largest in the world. The energy companies are expected to increase production at the oil field by 50 percent, to 285,000 barrels a day, for a service charge of $2 for each additional barrel produced, al-Dabbagh said in a statement.

            The Iraqi government rejected bids for five other oil fields and a natural gas field because the bidders did not agree to the service charge set by the Ministry of Oil, he said.

            Iraq plans to open bidding this year on 10 more oil fields and one natural gas field, all of which are undeveloped, Jihad said.
            http://edition.cnn.com/2009/BUSINESS/07/01/iraq.oil.contracts/index.html

          • JeffH

            Iraq Targets 12 Million Barrels a Day, Defers OPEC Quota Limits
            Bloomberg – March 16, 2010
            Iraq expects to produce 12 million barrels of oil a day within seven years and won’t even discuss OPEC quotas until 2012 as output accelerates after years of conflict, the country’s oil minister said.

            Iraq produced 2.39 million barrels a day, according to Bloomberg estimates.
            http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aj5r0M3eA4UM

          • eddie47d

            Good information Jeff but rather sad that China got the bid and not the USA.

          • JeffH

            eddie, and take note that it was a joint venture, BP-China.

      • Tazio2013

        spitfire,

        Republic of Texas; home of Ron Paul and the Libertarians.

        Semper fi!

        • Al Sieber

          I agree with that, Ron Paul is where it’s at.

  • http://google.com mathilda

    It is a shame for the goverment to keeps the american farmer down, not growing crops, as I see alot of land that was used to have cotton, ect. now is just a pasture, as the goverment pays them to keep us from not growing stuff. If the farmer had its way we would be the number one on the planet on growing and shipping produce and other markets, we would be number one, now we are depending on othe countries. Like the canal, they are saying if it falls we are in trouble. Well,Egypt should have a president like other countries, vote them in and then vote them out. If they try to be a dictator, take them out, and vote someone else in there. Muslims are spreading like ants around the world. This is a planned thing, so they can take over the world. Obama’s faith is muslim and the people made the mistake of putting him in there, now we have to get him out before it’s too late. And as far as these wars go, why are we fooling around, we have the ability and the ways of getting them. We should go in, take out, and get the war over with. Seems this is another vietnam war, don’t make anybody mad, and hold back. IF US made a statement, we don’t fool around, and back it up, other countries won’t be so happy to mess with us.

  • SteveB

    If America is going to be able to survive in this world and be a leader, we better start taking steps to be strong and independent….instead of at the mercy of the oil producing countries. We have the resources….let’s use them. We have the brains….let’s use them. What we don’t have is strong leaders.
    In the words of Teddy Roosevelt,”speak softly….but carry a big stick”! He knew that was the only language some people understand….and that’s the only language these radical muslims understand as well. We’re so afraid of looking like “Bullies” to the rest of the world that we resort to “diplomatic butt-kissing”….thinking we’ll gain cooperation with these extremists.
    We better start being more self sufficient before these threats are once again at our doorstep….or, not only won’t we carry a big stick….we won’t have any stick at all. Let’s get rid of Obahma and Hillary Clinton and get someone with real courage, experience and backbone…..and above all “foresight”!

    • http://deleted Claire

      SteveB–Whom do you have in mind that has real courage, experience, backbone and foresight?

      • SteveB

        My pick would have been Norman Swartzgopf….but he’s out of the picture now.

        • http://deleted Claire

          Good pick.

    • Sam

      He has bad hair and a world class ego, but Donald Trump is a tough, shrewed businessman and loves this country, we need him. The other republican potential candidates, except for Palin, are too anxious to compromise with the liberal/progressive/socialist democrats.

      • http://deleted Claire

        Sam– Bad hair?!! LOL I would vote for Trump–he couldn’t be any worse than what we have had in the past or the future.

      • Jana

        Sam,
        I have listened to Trump and he sure does have a lot of wisdom. He has business savvy and has a way of getting things done. He has a lot of common sense. So far from what I know, and his life is pretty much an open book, I would vote for him too.

        • JLC

          Jana — He also knows how to say “You’re fired!” For the man at the top. that is a plus!

      • spitfire

        We need a real “Dirty Harry”! For love of country. GOd we need your help more than ever before. I hope you are in a helping mood!

        • Jana

          spitfire,
          The One True God has given us authority over evil. The sad thing is those of us who knew better have set back and allowed God to be taken out of our schools, and out of our courtrooms and if it were possible out of our entire land. Thankfully with Obama’s help we have been awakened.
          We are learning our lessons and calling on The One True God in earnest as well as we are making a stand.
          When we allow God to be taken out of our land, His hand of protection that He has had over us all of these years, is being lifted. We who know the TRUTH can make a difference by putting God actively back into our lives and actions and not let God be eradicated from this country. The rest of the people can just enjoy the benefits.

          • kate8

            Jana – Good post.

            The one place from which they can’t remove God is our hearts and minds. That is where it matters the most.

            When people no longer honor Him or value his Ways, corruption ensues. That is why tyrants always work to turn people from the ways of goodness and knowledge of His Presence, because this is the only way they can assume power. True people of God will never bow to tyrants.

            Unfortunately, most organized churches have already bowed, and are complicit in holding people captive to the Beast system. It is the acceptance of this in people’s hearts that is the real abomination of desolation, as WE are the true temples of God.

            The way to bring God back is from within US. And we are many.

          • bob wire

            Jana, you seem to attempting to speak for a lot of people besides yourself this morning. Now you might well find an amen, and spotted support for such talk and some of it I might even agree with.

            But speaking like the voice from the burning bush is a real turn off for many people.

            Just saying, your subjectivity is waning and interfering with your message.

          • Jana

            Whats the matter bob? Truth too much for ya?

          • bob wire

            well if the truth being “We’ve learned” I suppose so Jana.

            “I’ve” learned there is good reason for separation of church and state and if anything,~ this “Islam” scourge should bring that “reason” into sharp focus for everyone to see the pitfall of failing to keep clergy and matters of the spirit out of government business.

            The very nature of each is to grow and intertwine, requiring constant pruning at the protest of the most righteous.

          • Jana

            Then bob, you truly haven’t learned anything. You are to be pitied.

          • kate8

            Jana – You go girl.

            You know you’re doing good when you provoke posters like b w.

          • bob wire

            Oh I’m learned to be careful with self proclaimed righteous people that are quick to offer the “WORD” when it was NEVER solicited. But since you insist~

            What is stopping anyone for conducting themselves and living an example of their beliefs without the need of dropping a tag line where they got their insightful wisdom?

            Is there some fear of possibly being confused with an infidel or being seen as simple wrong? I don’t think so.

            Why the need to openly proclaim being Christian when it not necessary and not being solicited is what I ask.

            If I were to claim 5×5=25 because I attended Gorden Elementary school, doesn’t enhance my statement regardless where I got the belief. It is enough to be simply ~ CORRECT.

            You are exhibiting a unnecessary proud’ness, a virtue your very bible has warned us about.

            It is for us to live the example that identity’s us and our good works. To incite people to search for what is different about us that they too might wish to have what we enjoy.

            Isaiah 5:21
            Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight.

            Matthew 6:5-6

            “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

            Mark 1:35

            And rising very early in the morning, while it was still dark, he departed and went out to a desolate place, and there he prayed.

            A man’s pride brings him low, but a man of lowly spirit gains honor. Proverbs 29:23

            Living a Christian life has never been easy, and we all blunder and fall short. But it’s something to live and strive for every waking moment.

          • Al Sieber

            BobW, like that, Matthew:6:5-6, not to many Christians know that passage or follow it.

          • Jana

            bob and al,
            I know you both think you are very cute, but you are not.
            No one on this site has been praying that I know of.
            You see, when you heart is full of deception and lies and evil it comes out in what you say.
            Jesus himself said in :
            Matthew 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
            35. A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
            36.But I say to unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37. for by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

            I love the Lord my God with all of my heart. I dwell in and study The Word. I will continue to speak as I have. If you don’t like it or don’t approve all I can say is YOUR BAD, not mine. No one is forcing you to read my postings. You do not mock me, you are mocking God.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            bob wire n Al,
            Jana is simply witnessing! The Lord commands us to not hide our light under a basket but to let it shine in the night and curse the darkness!! Go Jana, LET YOUR LIGHT SHINE!!!!

          • bob wire

            “Jana is simply witnessing! The Lord commands us to not hide our light under a basket but to let it shine in the night and curse the darkness!! Go Jana, LET YOUR LIGHT SHINE!!!!”

            Thanks Joe, and I do understand and have no desire to attack but direct. Jana is just not accepting it with the intent I offered it. Rather then completely ignoring her, I chose to interface with her in matter of point and for that she offered me her pity.

            Letting you light shine is something to “see” and in deed it can be seen without proclamation if it’s the real deal. There is no need for public display, jubilation or open Praises to the Lord. ~ It’s a given, a known factor by Christians. Don’t wallow in GOD for all to see. Offer reverence to God in your homes and places of worship or among known fellow Christians.

            If you desire attention, you whisper, you create a condition where people thirst to know. People tend to run from people that openly display righteousness, and speak as “we”, separating themselves from others. It is very polarizing and not the Christian way, the way of Christ, to walk the example for all to see, to be not afraid, to be not offended. You cannot be offended if you are right in the Lord. It’s impossible.

            Only after you have walk it, only then might you talk it well.

            I have only Jana’s best interest at heart, and I hope not only she but everyone that might indulge me, strive to understand the message offered by Matthew. It will only made you a stronger more understanding Christian and lighten your daily burden.

            “wide is the path and narrow is the way” and that’s no joke.

            You and I will fail, ~ seems I do everyday, but I don’t stop trying to get it right and I hope you are as well.

          • Al Sieber

            Jana, I wasn’t attacking you, I was just agreeing with BobW on the bible passage.

          • Jana

            Bob,
            You are right, I did NOT take what you were saying as, in the attempt that you say you were saying it in. You in essence were telling me not to bring God’s Word into the subject. A polite way to say shut up if you are going to bring up God or HIS word in the subject.
            ************
            You stated:

            I’ve” learned there is good reason for separation of church and state and if anything,~ this “Islam” scourge should bring that “reason” into sharp focus for everyone to see the pitfall of failing to keep clergy and matters of the spirit out of government business.

            The very nature of each is to grow and intertwine, requiring constant pruning at the protest of the most righteous.”************

            The problem is now that we have left God out of the subject for too long.

            Also, the passages you were bringing up are about praying. I have not been on this site reciting prayers.

            It is NOT possible to keep God out of Gov’t business. God has had His hand of protection over this country BECAUSE we were founded in HIM. We have been eradicating HIM out of our country and out of our lives. Now we have schools that are totally out of control, children killing children. Our morals have gone down the drain. Our country has been weakened to a dangerous point. People who serve a false god are moving into our midst to take us over and we are letting them. We have abandoned God, told HIM to get out, so now His protection is being lifted from us.
            If you cannot comprehend this, then you truly are not as smart as I thought you were, nor as wise as you think you are.

            Maybe you need to spend a little more time in your closet of prayer listening.

            As I said before, with the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. I do take time daily to study the Word. I do go to my closet of prayer and pray. However, the Bible also states if we be ashamed of Jesus then He will be ashamed of us. We can turn our country around with GOD’S help, but we must NEVER be ashamed of HIM.

          • Jana

            Bob,
            Concerning your last post,
            To whisper and hide your faith may be your calling, but it happens to be my whole life, and is NOT my calling. We are not all feet, nor all we are fingers, nor all eyes, but they are all part of the body. We each have different functions.

            I do not consider myself righteous as that may be what you consider yourself, but I am someone who is a student of the Word of God. I will never outgrow my need to study or pray.
            As you said,”You cannot be offended if you are right in the Lord. It’s impossible.”
            I am sorry I offended you by bringing God into the subject. I am sorry the Truth of what Jesus himself said offended you. Your own words labeled you.

          • Jana

            Al Sieber,
            I apologize.

      • LES

        A business man like Trump would be an excellant choice, we have had mostly lawyers and look where that has got us.

    • eddie47d

      Steve;Your another one who wants to take from the Muslim world and by any means possible. That has left millions in poverty and a handful of egomaniacs and trillionaires running these countries.That has been a recipe for disaster and for several Presidents. It’s time for a change in the way we do business.

      • Brad

        Edwardo,

        Steve said nothing of the sort, you’re just putting words in other peoples mouth, what a good ol lefty has been trained to do. Steve wants to see this country strong and prossperuss again. Yes Steve is right, there are times when we need to speak softly and cary a very big stick.

        • eddie47d

          He sure did and he would be more than happy to bully another nation to get what he wants. He wants to play conquer like Teddy Roosevelt by kicking Spain out of Cuba and taking over the Philippines. Different era same motive. The Philippines more or less worked out but Cuba was a disaster. We over react to everything and sometimes we win and sometimes we loose.

          • Jana

            eddie,
            What Steve said was we can’t be afraid to look bullies in the face. There is a vast difference between being bullied and being a coward. He said nothing about bullying anyone else.

          • Brad

            Edwardo needs a history lesson,

            McKinley was President when the US declared war on Spain. Cuba started revolting against spanish rule in 1895, the following year 1896 the phillapines revolted against spanish rule. In 1898 when the USS MAINE was at anchor in Havana Harbor when a huge explosion ripped open the ship killing 266 US sailors. The US declared war on spain, in turn the US came to the aid of cuba and the phillapines and helped kick the spanards out. Cuba was a free country until the communist took over in the 50′s. The phillapines have been free except for a short take over by japan from 1941-45. In 1898 TR was a army officer and lead the ruff riders up san jaun hill never a crusader/conquerer. Dude you need to get your history right before you spout off at the mouth, you make yourself look stupid to many who read this blog.

          • eddie47d

            So I gave the shorter version but thanks for the history lesson. Most Americans by now know that ship wasn’t attacked by Spain but blew up by spontaneous combustion in the magazine hold. We didn’t think back then either and just reacted by beating the war drums. Kind of like we did in the Gulf of Tonkin to get the Vietnam War going. More over reacting to achieve something we had our eye on but couldn’t achieve diplomatically.

          • 45caliber

            eddie:

            you complain about the war with Spain and TR. Keep in mind that the war was fought for the same reason Iraq is fought now – to free the poor from oppression by the rich. And TR was a liberal. (A very stupid reason to me but then, I think the oppressed should fight their own wars.)

            Incidently take a look at why we got into WWI and WWII. In both cases, our politicans deliberately set about fooling the public into allowing them to declare war so we could rush to help people getting the s*** kicked out of them. Was it a good idea or not? I’m still not sure. We just have to live with what did happen, just like we have to live with what is happening in Iraq and Afghanistan now. We certainly can’t wave a magic wand and put everything back the way it was before 9/11, now can we?

      • 45caliber

        eddie:

        You told steve our policy with the Muslims was wrong. Is it? Why did we get into WWII? We didn’t have to when we did. We certainly didn’t know about the concentration camps or what they were doing then. It is in hindsight that we realize we did a good thing to stop that. Is it now a bad thing to do the same thing?

        • eddie47d

          At the time we could have cared diddly squat about the Jews in Germany. We were out to save England and France and other reasons. The Jews were only an emotional afterthought and yes their plight should have been on our radar. Then we should be concerned about those imprisoned by Mubarak,Assad,or the Saudis or how about those in Yemen or Sudan. There should also be more support for Amnesty International who exposes what is going on in these countries. But wait! This site has said they are a liberal group so close your eyes and pretend that there isn’t anyone in Syrian jails or Iran or Egypt. The plight of the Jews didn’t seem important and these “new” governments know they can get away with what they are doing behind closed doors. Who cares until after the fact!Sadly their plight isn’t worth a full blown war and few nations are willing to boycott these dictators. We must find new ways to deal with rouge nations but Conservatives hate diplomacy. It seems to always come down to staying out of other countries business or more war.

  • robbe

    This cowboy doesnt even have a clue of geography thought in primary schools..The flag is not egypt but Turkish flag..!! Besides Egypt doesnt sit across between Europe and middle east but Turkey..
    I dont get involve more of his nonsense talks..
    Shame for the management that publish this kind of articles without any control

    • Tazio2013

      robbe,

      It’s refreshing to read something from someone who displays his ignorance so openly.

      • Tinman

        tazio2013, go home and stuff your face with pork. You little child molester!

        • Al Sieber

          Tin, is it necessary to resort to name calling?

  • http://com i41

    Onumnutts said if a dust up ever happened with pedophile goat abusers , he would embrace the pervert muslims. Have any doubt why he is loping the lizard as the muslim brotherhood is taking over in other countries. How many loads of those sand crab n—-rs have been shipped into the USA from Palistines, Yemanias, Iraqs,palistananes, and any other pervert muslim area. The sick perverts will not assemulate, and are putting up mosques all over even in podunk little cities. In Sioux Falls SD the muslims now have 4 mosques as well as their own mosque in AVERA McKeean hospital. Durning their rug kissing sessions, any female nurse going down the hall by their rug rolling sessions must be escourted by a male. Guess it is about time for the Christians to start knocking the goat abusers in the rears and out of here, AVERA is a Catholic hospital open to everyone. If the pervs want to hug a rug 5 times a day, get the hell out of the midwest. I think SD is a CCW and open care state. See the state legislature has a manadtory gun ownership bill in the hopper, for every adult to own a handgun. Go gun ownership and Christians, since it is time to to ship out and clean out the ideology driven sand loving perverts!

    • spitfire

      Wow sorry to hear they are in Souix Falls of all places. I always thought of that city as a nice place to live, and a true center piece of what America is all about. I have not been there for a long time, and it is a good thing I did not move there like I had planned.

      I have a question for you. What happens if a nurse walks down the hall when they are having prayer without a male companion? Who in the hospital and the city for that matter supports this foolishness?

      I guess it should not surprise me, as you have a company there called HTI that is all about liberalism and spreading the disease as fast as possible. That must be what they are doing in Souix Falls.

      If it is happening in a place like Souix Falls, then it is all over for us in America, in addition to every other thing that is currently happening and with the current liberal government we are really doomed as a republic.

    • peter robison

      There is a lot of hate in your comments, I am sure if it was not the muslims, you would find someone else to hate. You must really dislike yourself.

      • bear

        Peter, Can you clarify your statement about Spitfire’s hate? Who is his “hate” directed at? Why does he have this hate and why do you condemn it? Too many things in our society today have been renamed. I.E. Garbage collectors are now sanitation engineers. You call his emotion hate, I call it rage. Rage is not a bad thing. It usually drives us to getting off our dead asses and doing something about a situation that has become intollerable. That’s what I see. I too am outraged at what is happening in our country with these Muslims. Their intent is not peaceful. When they plop down for their prayers, they do it in a manner that disrupts all other’s daily lives and they expect us to stay out of their way and honor them while they have absolutely no regard for the rest of us. The U.K. and France are all but covered up with these people doing as they please and creating huge problems with the flow of daily life. The rest of us worship God in a fashion, within the walls of our churches and synogogues and impose no threat or inconvenience to any others. Why can’t they do the same? Why are we putting up with this crap? This is America, If they want to live here, why can’t they assimilate as our fore fathers have? What the hell makes them so special that we have to change everything about our lives to accomodate them?

        • Brad

          Thanks Bear for putting some perspective in the mix.

        • Al Sieber

          bear, I assume you’re a Christian, a Christian follows the teachings of Jesus Christ who preaches against hate and violence, most people don’t study the scriptures,or live by them. I’ve never met many real Christians in my life.

          • Jana

            Al,
            And you probably wouldn’t recognize one if you did.

          • Al Sieber

            Jana, why are you attacking me on the Christian issue? yes I would know a real Christian if I saw one.

          • bob wire

            Al, it’s the matter of degrees of understanding at play here and I don’t know of anyone that’s a fast study that could gain a encompassing full understanding in 5 years much less 5 months. The study has no end.

            I was provoked with a flaring Christian display to respond on a point, in hopes so light might be offered on Christian posture as offered not only by the Gospels but through out biblical text and was scorned for my efforts.

            Oh well, I did try but like so many other “growing events”, people only listen when they are “ready” to hear. And that being impart, the very reason for solid Christian posture, as it incites this “ready’ness” in others to want to know, to want to listen as they too “want” what you have found. They want your peace, they want your calm.

            If Colonel Sanders went around boosting the nature of his 37 secret herbs and spice recipe and throwing fried chicken legs at everyone that passed by, nobody would buy his chicken. In fact he would be laugh at and make sport of for his behavior even those it might be the best fried chicken you could wrap your lips around.

            Anyway, I wish all the very best while seeing no apology required. But I offer it anyway and wish for Jana what she seeks.

          • Jana

            Al Sieber,
            Again, I do apologize. I was reacting when I shouldn’t have been.

          • Jana

            bob wire,

            Maybe you ought to go back and reread how you came across before you make yourself out to be the victim here.
            You came across that I should not be talking about the Lord or quoting scripture.
            Yes, I attacked on that and probably always will. I feel VERY strongly about this subject.
            I do want to tell you that I appreciate that you have conducted yourself as a gentleman throughout this whole discourse. For that I thank you.
            May we agree to disagree on this subject and move forward?

          • bob wire

            Jana ,It’s a non issue as much now as yesterday. I enjoy you and your posting and want to see your best.

            There is nothing wrong with having a little fire in your spirit and wanting to share your excitement.

            I encourage everyone to be mindful, it’s more powerful then most might believe and only gets stronger the closer to the “way” you learn to walk. As with all power, it comes with responsibility .

            Best Wishes,

          • Jana

            bob,
            Every word you have said in our discourse seems to shout out that you are ashamed of what you say you believe, but at the same time you are trying to present yourself as an authority on a subject that you give the appearance of knowing very little about. This is the same type of trick leftist have been using to try and control others that do not agree with them, so they use manipulations and lies.

            It is evident through your own words that you have never really had a personal relationship with the Lord. With your own words it appears you are religious and a pacifist.

            With your own words you reveal that you are ashamed of everything pertaining to Christianity.

            bob, Christianity is NOT a religion, but is a way of life. You either are, or you are not.

            When you love someone, you don’t hide it. I love my husband and am proud of him and everyone around me knows I love him. I love my God, and am proud of HIM and everyone around me knows it.

            I encourage YOU to be mindful and not to give the appearance of being so ashamed of the LORD our GOD and that means you need to reconsider the way you have learned to walk.

          • bob wire

            Hmmm? Thanks for your response,

            There is no shame. ~ Perhaps we can get what I’m attempting to present in another way.

            Pride is a element of the flesh and of this world. We are attempting to transcend this world in spirit and in mind while still being held captive by the physical world.

            Pride is not truly necessary, but something to surround yourself in,~ your security blanket. If your were strong enough you’d have no need of pride.

            God~ simple is! and so ~ You simple are! shame, pride, honor, are simple manifestation, You create, you make them, ~ God doesn’t, ~

            Can a mountain or an ocean or a bee or a cow be ashamed?

            Are you Jana, a human capable of a spiritual experience.

            or are you a spirit having a human experience?

          • Jana

            bob,
            You truly are a man of many words without meaning.
            There is none so blind as those who will not see.
            again I will reiterate,It is evident through your own words that you have never really had a personal relationship with the Lord. With your own words it appears you are just religious and a pacifist.

          • bob wire

            Well, if that’s what bring you joy Jana, have a pleasant trip.

            Send me a card when you reach your destination so I know you made it safely.

            All roads lead to Rome.

            http://www.tagged.com/dancecard

            We’ve overextended everyone’s indulgence here, forgive the hyjacking folks.

      • 45caliber

        peter:

        Hate is not necessarily a bad thing. It can focus your attention and energy on a bad subject. However, most hate Ive seen (and I’ve seen some from the right) is from the left. Read some of the comments by liberals about Palin for instance. They mystrify me.

        On the other hand hating someone or something does not mean you hate yourself first. I’m not sure where you get that idea.

        One final thing to keep in mind. You are not paranoid if someone really IS out to get you.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          45,
          I think that goes just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you!!!

    • spitfire

      How about a reinactment of “Little Big Horn” and the Muslims are the calvary?? That would draw spectators from all over the USA.

      • eddie47d

        Now you want to be a drama Queen with that silliness. Sioux Falls ha a population of 1,270 Muslims. I’m sure it is still a fine city to live in so stop being so scared of everything. I know it’s hard to fathom because Christians aren’t exactly welcomed in the Middle East but we are a better people. We have tolerant laws that welcome a variety of people around the world. I believe in immigration and population control but not because someone is of a different faith or rich or poor.

        • Brad

          Edwardo,

          The problem with muslims they won’t assimlate to our culture and do not respect our laws, now they expect us to add sharia law to US law, uh no it doesn’t work that way dude. They need to assimulate or go home plain and simple, so do you or go live in a country that loves your train of thought.

        • American Patriot

          Look everyone, Eddy has his panties in a wad again with everyone this fine morning. get a friggin life eddy.

        • eddie47d

          I think it’s more like Brad and AP who have their panties in a wad. Did you both wake up on the wrong side of each other this morning?

          • Brad

            We love proving you wrong dude!

          • eddie47d

            So I’m wrong, because you hate certain people? I doubt that! Go spread your poop somewhere else.

    • Charles C

      bob and Jana, you take whatever space you need to discuss these things, there’s no reason to apologize.

      This conversation began with i41. I do not agree with the way he presented his case, which was pretty much against muslims. I think it is right to state what you believe clearly, and that political correctness is a stupid facade, but is there not an opposite to that as well? Is it not possible to be overly offensive? Hate can be a good thing, only when it is hate of evil. Hating people themselves just because of the religion they believe in is not right. Did Paul the apostle hate the people he witnessed to, who were of a different religion? Maybe the word hate has come to have a different meaning today. An accurate way to describe hate would be how God views sin. God does not tolerate sin in His presence. God hates sin so much that even His own creation, mankind, does not have a place in His presence if they are spotted with sin. But God loved us, His creation, so much, that He sent His Son – the God of heaven and earth sent His Son – to suffer and die in our place, to wash us, and make us clean in God’s presence. Not just Jews, not just Gentiles. Not just Americans, not just Arabians, not just people who recite the Bible in Latin. The Son of God came for His creation, mankind. That is what I believe.

      Now I’m going to ask a question – Are we as Christians responsible for making sure no muslims reside in this country? Personally, I don’t believe so. Are we supposed to preserve the fundamentals of this country? If God calls us to it, we had better. If in any way in our everyday lives God shows us ways we can, definitely. I believe we should stand up for what we know is the truth about our country. But I don’t believe we do so by discriminating against people of a certain ethnicity or religion. We are not fighting against them. We are fighting against what they believe. That does not mean we do not punish people when they do something contrary to the laws of this country. But I don’t believe we are supposed to preemptively rid this nation of people we suspect will do us harm. Speculation can go as far as the craziest speculator will take it. And who will the nation be rid of by the end?

    • Charles C

      bob and Jana, you take whatever space you need to discuss these things, there’s no reason to apologize.

      This conversation began with i41. I do not agree with the way he presented his case, which was pretty much against muslims. I think it is right to state what you believe clearly, and that political correctness is a stupid facade, but is there not an opposite to that as well? Is it not possible to be overly offensive? Hate can be a good thing, only when it is hate of evil. Hating people themselves just because of the religion they believe in is not right. Did Paul the apostle hate the people he witnessed to, who were of a different religion? Maybe the word hate has come to have a different meaning today. An accurate way to describe hate would be how God views sin. God does not tolerate sin in His presence. God hates sin so much that even His own creation, mankind, does not have a place in His presence if they are spotted with sin. But God loved us, His creation, so much, that He sent His Son – the God of heaven and earth sent His Son Jesus Christ – to suffer and die in our place, to wash us, and make us clean in God’s presence. Not just Jews, not just Gentiles. Not just Americans, not just Arabians, not just people who recite the Bible in Latin, and not just those who reject everything having to do with tradition. The Son of God came for His creation, mankind. That is what I believe.

      Now I’m going to ask a question – Are we as Christians responsible for making sure no muslims reside in this country? Personally, I don’t believe so. Are we supposed to preserve the fundamentals of this country? If God calls us to it, we had better. If in any way in our everyday lives God shows us ways we can, definitely. I believe we should stand up for what we know is the truth about our country. But I don’t believe we do so by discriminating against people of a certain ethnicity or religion. We are not fighting against them. We are fighting against what they believe. That does not mean we do not punish people when they do something contrary to the laws of this country. But I don’t believe we are supposed to preemptively rid this nation of people we suspect will do us harm. Speculation can go as far as the craziest speculator will take it. And who will the nation be rid of by the end?

      “For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
      Nor are your ways My ways”, says the
      Lord.
      “For as the heavens are higher than the
      earth,
      So are My ways higher than your ways,
      And My thoughts than your thoughts.”

      Isaiah 55:8-9

      • Charles C

        sorry, I kind of posted the same thing twice

      • Jana

        Thank you Charles C.,
        We don’t mind anyone coming into our country who is willing to assimilate into our country. What we do mind is someone coming into our country to take over our country. That is where the big difference is.
        There are many good and wonderful people that happen to be Muslims residing in our country. I don’t believe these wonderful people are discriminated against. The radical Islamists are the ones we have to watch out for. We must not allow them to take over our country and force us turn to their religion.

  • JR

    It is NOT our business what they do or not do, they are a sovereign nation. How would we feel if say Russia or China would tell us what to do or not to do?
    Sticking our noses into other peoples business is was brought us the hate of many countries, the Iranian hostage incident 9/11 and many more.
    When will Americans learn that we are NOT the worlds keeper? The earlier the better. Our budget would be balanced and our people would have jobs not 2 wars and 160+ US bases on foreign soil.
    Wake up people and mind your own business, because if not there will come the day where someone will makes it they’re own business to hit the bully and hit it hard.

    • Al Sieber

      JR, I have to agree with you, we need to mind our own business and stay out of foreign entanglements like the founding fathers warned us about.

      • Jana

        I agree, I think we have been way too involved in other people’s (countries) business. Now however we are involved and it does affect us in every way. The radical Muslim group would take over it could hurt our economy even more. That is why we want to be allowed to drill here in our own country and use our own resources while we are working on new sources of energy. We are cutting our noses off to spite our faces.

        • 45caliber

          Jana:

          I don’t like the idea of the radical Muslims taking over. Not because of what it might do to our businesses but what it will do to their own people. However, it will do one thing. It will identify many of those radicals. Then, if they don’t mind their own business, we can know exactly who to find and where they are.

        • Al Sieber

          Jana, where it’s gonna affect us is at the fuel pumps, it already is. maybe $7.00 gas by years end, and $4.00 a gal. by May. we have our own oil reserves here.

  • peter robison

    Once again the right wing just doesn’t get it. Go back and read your history books, the war of 1812 was a popular uprising by American citizens to get rid of oppression by a foreign power. If it was good enough for the U.S. why do so many of you oppose the right to self detemination for others. You are so hung by your fear of the Muslims (As you were with the Communists) that you can’t see these events for what they are. People the world over want to be free, and the internet has empowered them, we should be rejoicing, the world will be a safer place. The U.S. has supported Dictators like Mubarek for their own selfish reasons for too long, and at the expense of the oppressed. The President’s response to this situation is right on.

    • Sam

      Then you should love $7.00 gasoline. Maybe you can get a ringside seat with Obama and Hillary as they cheeron their radical friends.

      • Jana

        Sam,
        There is nothing worse than people like peter who are blind to the truth because he doesn’t want to see it.
        We have no FEAR of the Muslims, we just know them for who and what they are. Just like we know who and what peter is.

        • eddie47d

          Peter is right and yes you do fear Muslims and want to deny them a chance for freedom and a better life. ALSO The price of gasoline was going up before the Tunisia overthrow so stop exaggerating everything.

          • Jana

            Sorry eddie, but you are WRONG again.
            I do not fear the Muslims. Some are really nice and good decent Americans, but the radical Muslims are evil and have evil intent. They want to bully us into submission. I will look the bullies in the face and say NO.

          • eddie47d

            Well I don’t see you taking on those on this site who say Muslims in America should be exterminated or never allowed on American soil. Saying there are good Muslims doesn’t mean much if you sit back and accept Christian extremists who want to annihilate anyone who isn’t like them. Their talk doesn’t help the good Muslims one bit but endangers their lives. Muslims in America do need to adapt faster for their own good so these confrontations don’t get over blown.

          • Brad

            Edwardo said,

            “Saying there are good Muslims doesn’t mean much if you sit back and accept Christian extremists who want to annihilate anyone who isn’t like them”.

            So what christian on this blog wants to annihilate anyone who isn’t like them, give us some proof, if not you need to shut your pie hole, you have been wrong too many times today.

          • eddie47d

            I think you have been wrong too many times today and I will definitely point out those who have made those disparaging remarks about killing Muslims. It may take a few days but we’ll start with i41 and Castaway. Since you want to be in denial maybe you ought to shut …. … ….

          • Brad

            Sorry Edwardo,

            “It may take a few days but we’ll start with i41 and Castaway”. Why i41 posted once today and nothing in his post states muslims must die and castaway hasn’t posted to day, not once, so try again dude.

          • eddie47d

            You sure know how to evade. i41 mentions Muslims on a regular basic so that means you’re not paying attention. You loose another 10 points.

    • samuel997

      Reply to peter robison says:
      February 2, 2011 at 8:45 am
      Once again the right wing just doesn’t get it. Go back and read your history books …

      Reply: Ok read the history of today’s IRAN. It was another Democrats government. What happened? Has it improved freedom? Among innocence and leftism US and the Western is letting they run free. This has not appeased the Muslims and the Western will have by the end to face what they want to avoid: confrontation with Islam.

      • eddie47d

        Why do you have to always be confronting them? Why do you always assume the Middle East is the 51st State and that their oil is ours? For a web site that says it’s not nice to take other people’s money you sure like to take other people’s oil.Since the majority of these Middle Eastern countries are as under developed as they were 50 years ago (poor) then apparently our poking our nose over there hasn’t done much good. Then you have John Meyers trying to enhance his Canadian oil portfolio by working up your fears. Nothing changes except the anger level.

        • Jana

          eddie,
          Fore Pete’s sake.
          Firstly, we buy the oil! Secondly, we want to drill our own oil. You are not on a good roll this morning.

          • eddie47d

            We are drilling our own oil sweetie but it will never be enough for you. Where’s are moral responsibility when our businesses go into another country. Even if we pay for this oil and yet the people are exploited again by their own leaders says alot about our values. WE really don’t care. If their leaders are deliberately keeping their citizens poor when they are receiving billions from us then there isn’t much difference between that and slavery.That in it self may not be our fault but then we should stop doing business with them.

          • 45caliber

            eddie:

            “Even if we pay for this oil and yet the people are exploited again by their own leaders says alot about our values. WE really don’t care.”

            As I read this, you are saying that we should step in and MAKE their government take care of their citizens whether they want to or not. And I thought you were blaming us for doing just that in Iraq – even though we aren’t getting oil from them. Make up your mind. Which do you want?

            Actually, your second statement is true as far as I’m concerned. I really don’t care how they treat their own citizens. That is the responsibility of their citizens, not me.

        • marvin

          eddie47d
          history back 60 70 years ago the greedy american oil companys went to kuwat saudi and just about every middle east country and put up the money and men and rigs to drill for the oil at their own expence after the wells were put in to production the great people of your beloved middle east nationalized all production and kicked out the greedy americans that had found drilled and put in production the oil the camel jockey did not know oil was their could not drill it and did not care for it

          • eddie47d

            You are correct and we still went back in there and let them get away with it. That just shows how desperate and dependent on oil we are.

          • 45caliber

            eddie:

            dependent upon oil – yes. And there is no harm in being that way – as long as we attempt to use our own and keep the costs down. Sooner or later we will find an alternative but forcing us to quit using oil completely won’t do it – at least not economically.

            We are also dependent upon natural gas, coal, nuclear, and hydro-power. In fact most of our electricity comes from those four sources. Oil is seldom used for generation of electricity. SO – should we stop using all of those too? I think we should continue to use ALL sources instead of trying to focus all our attention and future to just one.

            Try something on solar power – for instance – some time. Calculate how many square miles of solar panels would be required to produce enough power to provide all that is needed for any state. Then compare that area to the amount of area of the state. See what you end up with. Then consider what would have to be removed and replaced with these solar panels to get that much area. It might surprise you.

          • Al Sieber

            eddie, alternative power can not run a country, I’ve been off the grid for over 13 years and still have to run a generator a few hours a day.

        • Lewis Munn

          As I recall, we BUY their oil. Not take it!

          Of course, buying, that would be the conservative ways; Liberals may just take; they seem to have fewer inhibitions relating to Morality, and forcing what they want, as we understand and observe it.

          • eddie47d

            I said we buy their oil but don’t care how these governments abuse their people. It’s real simple to figure out why their citizens are always poor and angry and we shouldn’t be apart of that. Show a moral backbone and get the hell out from under these dictators.

        • 45caliber

          We are “taking” their oil? Where? The last I heard we were paying whatever price they asked for it. And they are the ones setting the price, not us. Further, we certainly didn’t free Kuwait and attack Iraq over oil. We don’t get a bit from either. It all goes to Europe. And I don’t believe that even you are going to insist that we are controlled by Europe, forced to fight their wars for them.

          • bob wire

            Good argument and a interesting spin. I personally believe big oil and it’s income doesn’t require a one national platform to see it’s interest carrying out and oil to flow to market.

            It’s very easy to use proxy to act in your interest without your label being attached to the project in question. Making it a gray area.

            But it should be clear why we went into Kuwait, Albright failed (for some reason)to adequately convey to Saddam (a very hard man to talk too), that Kuwait was off bounds. Now where she wasn’t instructed well or Saddam was impossible to communicate with, is up for interpretation. Maybe “read my lips” was counting a thousand points of light, and missed a memo? I just don’t know.

            In any case, the invasion of Kuwait forced the US hand to intervene, which few people seem to question.

            Of these other two invasions, Iraq was pure BS and distracted American resources in Afghanistan with their attempt to chase down one long legged Arab and his closest support.

            To invade Iran was a Bush (the decider), Chaney, Wolfiwitz, and Karl Rove brain fart! with Rummy acting as Cheerleader.

            What could go possible go wrong? Chaney wanted to get his men in there to find out what was really in the ground. “W” wanted some “Pay Backs” for Daddy and be known a War President and Saddam was being insolent and showing great disrespect to the world community and Donald (the cheerleader) was wanting command to blow some stuff up in the name of America and all the might it could bring to bear.

            All of this military activity for TWO very bad men!

            It would be a cake walk, the people would throw flowers.

            Well, we’ve sure thinned out the bad men, but I’m afraid in the process, we’ve made some new ones.

            Now we are paying them to not fight. Encouraging others to be “very naughty” so they too might get a pay check. To get the money you must prove that you are dangerous too!

            What a crock of $hit!

    • 45caliber

      peter:

      you are right; the war of 1812 was fought against a foreign oppressor. But I can’t see your corilation to Egypt. No one is attacking them except THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT. If they want to get rid of it, it is certainly fine by me. All corrupt governments that want to enslave their own citizens should be done away with. (And somehow I’m reminded of our own….)

  • spitfire

    I am new to this site and would like to know if it is mostly liberal, or conservative?

    • http://deleted Claire

      Strictly Conservative, with a spattering of Liberals. I am not being hateful, I am telling it like I see it.

      • spitfire

        Thanks for the headsup Claire, but all I see here is mostly liberal muslim loving posters, and anti-patriots.

        • JR

          If you want to call “self styled” wannabe patriots and “”real American” haters on the right or the left….patriots …no you will not find them here. This site is for sane people not insane people. It does gets visited once in a while by extremists from both sides, but they generally don’t stick around very long.

        • bob wire

          “but all I see here is mostly liberal Muslim loving posters, and anti-patriots.”

          Hmm? You see that do ya? Well? ~Quick Draw, you know how you go here and I trust you can find your way out.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            bob wire,
            come on bob, give him a chance, we did for you, didn’t we????

    • JR

      Its conservative, conspiracy, liberal nutcases united….welcome to the club

      • bob wire

        or primary conservative, with a dash of radical right, heavy on the conspiracy and touch of blue dawg.

    • Cawmun Cents

      What we have here mr.spitfire,are a bunch of people who argue left and right,who dont get that there is a religion of approximately 1 billion people,whos entire goal is to convert others or see them dead.They argue apples and oranges,but it all comes out to nothing while their worst nightmare(not our own govt. by the way)of Islam plots to kill us one and all.The one world system,which is coming sooner than anyone will admit,is comprised of people who hate specifically:Jewish,Christian,Capitalism,individual rights,and the American way of life.If we continue to exist then their world government cannot.So then we must die or be converted to Islam.These folks arguing on here wont see it that way but it is a fact.They will continue to argue that diplomacy and peace are the way to stop this,but they fail to understand the nature of the enemy that is going to destroy them(they are not intrested in John Lennons dream).Therefore they deserve to be destroyed because of their denial.

      • Cawmun Cents

        Bottom line is we have a choice to make. A decision that requires we take a hard line look at the world situation. We either sit on our hands like we did prior to WW2,or we get active and commence to do what it takes to survive. There is not one speck of grey area here. We will either do something or be destroyed literally and completely.You can huff and puff and blow smoke up other peoples exhaust pipes,but in the end you will be confronted with a thie choice of do it or die.

    • American Patriot

      spitfire, It is mostly people that think that Muslim’s flew planes into the world trade center. When in fact it was an inside job. Buildings do “NOT” fall into their own foot print. “NOT” 3 buildings. Yet people refuse to acknoladge the number 7 building that collapsed later that same day the same way the world trade buildings did. Check out “9-11 Loose change” on youtube and listen to all the people accounts of what they saw and heard before the planes hit the twin towers on 9-11. You decide then who to believe. American’s are demanding another investigation.

      • Tazio2013

        American Patriot,

        Kudos to you for some essential truth telling. You undoubtably realize that truth tellers are a minority group at PDL with the majority of posters being white wing wackos, crusading christian clowns and delusional disciples of cheney bush, palin beck and the fox noise crowd. Their ignorance is, however, amusement for the truth tellers.

      • Al Sieber

        American Patriot, you got that right, thanks for bringing that up, but it usually falls on deaf ears.

    • marvin

      spitfire
      we are just good old americans that belive in god country and famly 99 % are conseritive 1 half of a % are liberal and the other half% are morons that stand for nothing and just want to cause trouble hope that will ansure your post

      • 45caliber

        marvin:

        I think you are closest to the right answer.

      • Tazio2013

        Marvin,

        You are definitely a “halfpercenter”.

    • Carlucci

      Hi Spitfire,

      I’d say this group is a mix of political opinions, many seem to be conservatives, some are independent/libertarian (like me), with a couple of old hippie flower children thrown in for good measure.

      There are bloggers on here that come out with some of the funniest lines that keep me smiling. We also have many voices of calm and reason like Claire and Kate8. I love to read their posts.

      Willkommen, Bienvenue, Welcome – ! Come on in and stay awhile.

  • AMP

    World War 1 & 2 were started by Fanatics Christians who wanted to rule the world where millions of innocent people were killed. Now Fanatics Muslims have started the same. Since they could not win direct war, they have started proxy war using terrorism as a weapon. I strongly believe that Religious Leaders are the main characters behind this. Most of Religious leaders are brain washing people by misguiding them and they are in both religion.

    • Brad

      Lets see WWI was touched off with the killing of King Ferdinand of Austria by a bosnian serb who was a socialist, that’s if my memory servs me right. Germany’s monarchy had many faiths but a lot were athiest. WWII was started by Japan in 1932 when they invaded manchuria and then china, if memory servs me right, the Japanese are buddists, hmmm. Germany invaded Poland in 1939, Adolf Hitler was an atheist, he didn’t believe in god, hmmm so was it christians who started WWI & II or was it mad men hell bent on world domination.

      • JR

        Actually, Adolph Hitler was a christian, He visited RCC and the Sunday mass, endorsed christian values at speeches and thus had the support of main stream Christian organizations. I do know that there is an effort by some to read all kinds of stuff into his life and write books about…especially by some Christians that do they’re best to deny the facts and try to distance them self from the past. But be your own judge, research his speeches and his life…not at a right wing church blog site but authenticated historic sites and you will find, that Hitler was well rooted in his christian believes….and that some of his hate for everything Jewish was actually the then still practiced doctrine by the RCC that the Jews killed Jesus. I grew up during the end of WW-II, remember as a child seeing bombed out buildings and destroyed towns, seeing piles of death people being pulled out of the rubble after a deliberate attack that destroyed the common peoples homes but left the “target” the ball bearing plants unscathed. I saw what happen when US and British pilots still had bombs left and in order to get rid of them emptied them over hospitals even though the white crosses were on the roof of the building….well, its all water under the bridge….but the fact still stands, Hitler was a practicing christian and he never ever closed down a christian church he deemed just and main stream. Although he was ruthless against all he deemed cults such as Jehovah witnesses and others.

        • Brad

          JR,

          You need to read this http://www.answers.org/apologetics/hitquote.html

          Here’s another source http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1699/was-hitler-a-christian if hitler was christian why did he embrace Nazism.

        • Jana

          JR,
          Have you ever heard the term RHINO it means a Republican in name Only. Therefore it might introduce you to the term A Christian in name Only. You know them by their fruits the Bible says. Hitler produced very bad fruit. So we know he was not of God.

        • libertytrain

          Jana – with you on that one – a lot of people say they are Christian but their work demonstrates otherwise.

        • eddie47d

          …and Brad AMP did say all religions are the root cause or reason for wars. Christianity isn’t immune from wanting wars.

          • Brad

            Sorry Edwardo got to burst your tiny bubble again,

            “and Brad AMP did say all religions are the root cause or reason for wars. Christianity isn’t immune from wanting wars”.

            No matter what the cause, Edwardo would have every conflict since the dawn of time started in the name of God. Atleast common sence people know that man starts wars against other men whether it was religion, calling another out, assination, anothers minerals, oil, and the list goes on. Eddie47D can’t use common sence he has to use the party line, the athiest line that religion starts it all.

          • eddie47d

            I’m a Christian and I do go to church every Sunday. So don’t patronize me; AMP made a valid point and there are many reasons for war and religion is right up there. So chill out.

          • Al Sieber

            Religions are the cause of most wars, just study history. all religion is, is control over the people, a way to control you, like Govt.. now beliefs and faith are real, especially if you believe in yourself. the other cause of wars is territory, mineral wealth etc. just ask the Rothschilds.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            I know of a prostitute that went to church EVERY SUNDAY like you!! but every other day of the week she was plying her trade!! Remember eddie not by acts but by the son!!!

        • Lewis Munn

          A Christian is one who follows the teachings of Jesus Christ, not one who goes to a given church.

          Period.

          Tell me how Hitler followed the teachings of Jesus Christ as written in the Bible? I think you are mislead by the popular misconceptions of those who do NOT read the Bible and confuse going to a church building from time to time with Christianity.

          Even Jesus acknowledged there would be many who claimed Christianity but never followed what Jesus commanded. And He will disown them, too, even if they had head knowlege and fine rituals.

        • Al Sieber

          JR, thanks for sharing that with us, I have friends that I grew up with that immigrated here from Germany after WW11 and they told me similar stories. but Hitler wasn’t that fond of the Lutheran Church, he had the head Reverend throw in a concentration camp, but he survived. Rev. Martin Niemoller. read the persecution of the Christian Churches, Rise and Fall of the 3rd Reich.

  • Patrick

    Well,Well,Well yet another foreign disaster we give Millions(sometimes Billions)of dollars,arms,business and in some cases blood of our armed men and women military forces to dictators,gangsters like Mubarak,Shah,Macros,Saddam(Ronnie’s friend),Pinchott etc (God Knows how many Dictators we supported in Central America)and yet in the same breath we preach about Freedom,Liberty,Justice etc and then we wonder why people in the rest of world don’t like us.This policy was adhere by both Democrat and Republican administrations down the years,it seems old Teddy Roosevelt policy of “Somoza(a dictator in Nicaragua)might be Son of Bitch but he is our son of bitch” will go on for years—a great way to make friends!!!!

  • Pete NY “R I P FEDERAL RESERVE BANK”

    I lay the blame squarely on the Federal Reserve Bank and Dick Nixon. Both created a monster debt bubble and inflated food prices.

  • bob wire

    While I tend to think Islam is a radical religion, there seems to be evidence there are moderates that practice the faith.

    Where is the evidence of these radicals activities in this “movement”

    And is it going to get down to where you or I are the ones to make the decision on what, who, when and where radical Islam is an eminent threat and demanding a strong response directed to other sovereign nations?

    Facing the cold hard facts, we have large investments and logistical interest in Egypt. We had supported and defended a man that has had 30 years to shape the will of his people and evidently he has failed to do so.

    So what is the smart thing to do, knowing whatever you do will be in plain view and for the world to judge?

    I say, don’t blink and allow a few more cards to be played before we raise the stakes in this game.

    • 45caliber

      bw:

      You are right; there are some moderates in Islam. In fact there are a lot of them. Unfortnately, they don’t control it and it is very doubtful that they ever will as long as those in control are willing to kill at the drop of the hat.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      bob wire,
      45s post was never more prominate than when the muslims in England forcably pulled people from their car on 9/11 and made them, under threat of violence say allah is great!!!

  • Raggs

    Welcome to WW3.

  • samuel997

    I have no illusions on Egypt. The “revolutionaries” are always as they where but the Westerners went into stupidity and leftism. The Left is ruling the world. What to say about the Americans? Voting to a Muslim president thinking to improve their relationship with Muslim world? Just gave them a green light, gave then strength and confidence. Among innocence and leftism US and the Western is letting they run free. This has not appeased the Muslims and the Western will have by the end to face what they want to avoid: confrontation with Islam.

    • bob wire

      I think that you and Quick Draw are singing for the same piece of sheet music. While I might wish to do the same, my thoughts are tempered with the knowledge that just because I don’t want see or know something, doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist.

      I’m not ready or prepared to see the world open up that can of worms at this point in time just because someone else is trying too!

      “Islam is the world’s second largest religion after Christianity. According to a 2009 demographic study, Islam has 1.57 billion adherents, making up 23% of the world population.[1][2]

      Islam is the predominant religion in the Middle East, in northern Africa[3][4], and in some parts of Asia.[5] Large communities of Muslims are also found in China, the Balkans, and Russia.[6] Other parts of the world host large Muslim immigrant communities; in Western Europe, for instance, Islam is the second largest religion after Christianity, though it represents less than 5% of the total population.[7]

      Approximately 50 countries are Muslim-majority.[2] Around 62% of the world’s Muslims live in Asia, with over 683 million adherents in such countries as Indonesia (the largest Muslim country by population, home to 15.6% of the world’s Muslims[8]), Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh (all three being successor states to the former British Raj).[2][9] About 20% of Muslims live in Arab countries.[10] In the Middle East, the non-Arab countries of Turkey and Iran are the largest Muslim-majority countries; in Africa, Egypt and Nigeria”

      • spitfire

        Correct Bob and what do you think the outcome of this rapid growth will be? What will it mean to America?

        • JR

          It will mean that America as much as it likes it, will not be the center of the universe any longer….but that is nothing new…some people just have to get use to the fact that they are not the worlds keeper and they are not better than anyone else. America will play an ever reduced role on this planet. And a lot of it is our own fault…we as a country have developed other nations an build them up to stand on they’re own. Don’t expect them to be thankful and little slaves forever…that’s against human nature. They will evolve and surpass its master after all we showed them everything we knew and now they have all the energy to build up on this and to surpass us…most of our energy was spend to get to the point we are, leaving us with little to go on. So, if those countries decide to be a Muslim country…who are we to say it can’t be? They are sovereign and can do as they please. In the end, it will not mater as Christianity, Islam and all other religions will go the way other ancient religion have gone…they will collapse and be replaced with something new. And although we believe that our religion is the only truth and the be all on this planet, so did the followers of those ancient religions. History has shown this over and over and will repeat itself….independent of what we want or think is right.

          • 45caliber

            I think a lot of our politicians are actually campaigning in these other countries. They want to show their concern so if we ever do end up with a one-world government they may be able to use that to insure they are the leaders in that also.

            I seriously doubt that we shall end up with any one world government anytime soon. The One Worlders don’t really plan on a one world government if you look. They plan on a reduction in population with them being leaders of a part of the earth and the ability to ignore the rest of it – at least for their lifetime.

            A one-world government would require an economic system, an education system, and a values system that are close to the same throughout the world. Otherwise it cannot work. And I can’t see that happening soon even if they are trying very hard.

            [They are trying to bring us down to the same economic level as the rest of the world, want to reduce our education system while building up that of others, and certainly want a single value system (ready to take Islam) since they believe that in a war they will win.]

        • bob wire

          It means there will be great change or die out.

          We all live inside a flowing time continuum, the really good news is, ~ one lifetime is but a blink of an eye and the next time you are unlucky enough to ever pass this way, your recall will be so distance it will be referred to as only a permutation of random events.

          Enjoy your life, enjoy your battles and don’t bite off more then you can chew and choke in the process.

          • 45caliber

            I’m not worried about my NEXT pass through this existance – if that occurs. I’m worried about my children and grandchildren’s passage through this. And it looks more iffy every day.

          • bob wire

            me too 45. ~ Buried my Father mother, some 12 years ago, During the funeral services it came out she left 196 decedents.

            I was somewhat taken back by such a large number. It’s most difficult to see forward a hundred years and what lies ahead. Land, Liberty, the tools of Law, air, water, food and a strong appetite for the graces of life are some of the most basic thing one might leave your children.

            My Grand father left me only his memories and all the rest seems to pour from them.

  • Delores Smith

    JOHN MYERS – ANOTHER GREAT ARTICLE – Thank you.
    Isn’t it odd that a man that has been in office for 30 years suddenly has a revolution? In my opinion, they are being stirred up by the Muslim Brotherhood.
    MB founded Hamas and AlQaida, as you know. Hamas, AlQaida and Hezbollah are on our list of terrorists, but Muslim Brotherhood is NOT. Obama, bring your list up to date, MB is 30% of the population in Egypt and they want to be part of the government. Their history is well known. Delores Smith Delores109@cox.net

    • bob wire

      hmm? Hitler came to power with a 30% popularity. 30% is a dangerous amount of opinion.

    • Norm

      Delores Smith
      Is Egypt part of the US?
      Is Egypt threatening the US?
      Read the Constitution, not he Christian bible

      • Lewis Munn

        Norm,

        You read the Christian Bible and answer your own question.

        Maybe you need to read the Qur’an and find out what THEY say about religious duties also, treatment of women and slaves, and so on.

        Be sure you do not call the Jewish faith Christianity, either. But compare Christianity with Islaam

        Become enlightened in those areas you expound upon!

      • 45caliber

        Norm:

        I don’t believe these people mentioned the Bible or Christianity until you did. Don’t change the subject.

  • Delores Smith

    AMERICANS,
    We will get through this together. We have a lot more strength than Obama thinks. Obama is looking foolish in the United States and in the eyes of the world. He is almost out of office. Let Congress know how you want
    them to vote.
    Delores Smith
    Delores109@cox.net

    • Norm

      Delores Smith
      I think Obama will be a 2 term Pres. Polls show 53% favorability and the economy is breathing again. The Republicans have nobody who can beat him. Imagine if Palin were president – we would be in another illegal war.

      • eddie47d

        Delores: All recent Presidents have made us look foolish at different times and that includes Clinton.Bush did the most damage in foreign involvement so I do believe Obama has a long ways to go before he can top that.

        • Jana

          eddie,
          Obama topped it in his first few months in office.

          • 45caliber

            I agree. On his first trip around the world.

          • eddie47d

            Not even close!!

        • Lewis Munn

          Remember, Eddie, Bush the twig was brain-damaged by alcohol when younger, and run by “Shoot your buddy” Cheney. Be careful whom you accuse.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Norm,
        don’t dismiss the fact that there are people in the know that are predicting another downturn in the market! That combined with the upswing in the prices of gasoline very well could be Nobama’s Waterloo!!!

        • Norm

          Joe H.
          There are people who predict Armageddon as well

  • jopa

    Once again the Egypt is burning and the Obama administration is caught off guard.What a dumb statement, what was he supposed to have had a fire truck parked in Egypt?Oh the good old days of Bush where he would have said something stupid to piss off the Egyptians to make them more anti-American.The protesters are trying for democracy in their country so the best thing to do is sit on the sidelines and hope for the best.Thank you Mr. President

    • 45caliber

      jopa:

      Where did you get the idea that the demonstrators are wanting democracy? For some reason that seems to be the comment by a lot of liberals and some conservatives. As far as I can tell, they do not. I’ve not yet seen that mentioned BY THEM. They want less corruption in government, more jobs, etc. None of that is required only by democracy. Even a dictatorship can provide that.

  • Pete NY “R I P FEDERAL RESERVE BANK”

    I think we need to focus on what really matters: nullify bad Federal laws and Court rulings and remove Obama from office. Audit the Federal Reserve Bk. Minimize the Federal government. Lets get our own house in order. Thank you.

    • Norm

      Pete NY “R I P FEDERAL RESERVE BANK”
      Heil Hitler. You would have made a great SS man.

      • Brad

        So Norm,

        When was the last time the fed was audited? Let me say it slowly for you N E V E R, and now they are setting in motion QE2 to deflate the dollar even further. Open your eye’s before it’s too late.

      • Pete NY “R I P FEDERAL RESERVE BANK”

        @Norm. Just recall what JC said to you the other day. Remember? Loud pop followed by a bright light.

        • Norm

          Pete NY “R I P FEDERAL RESERVE BANK”
          Remember the reply: Simple minds are easily amused. You would know all about walking the earth with your head up your a*s.

          • Pete NY “R I P FEDERAL RESERVE BANK”

            Cmon Norm, JC is an artist with words and timing. Everyone was in stitches, even those none would label “simple”. If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

      • 45caliber

        Norm:

        If being an SS man is necessary to cut back on our government spending, then I’m ready to become one. But actually I don’t believe Hitler or the SS had any desire to cut back on government spending so I fail to see your link.

  • spitfire

    This is only for the sake of argument and to see what you all think about it.

    Islam is not a religion,it is a vicious cult,using religion as a mask. It is however, a complete system.
    Islam has a fake religious component, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

    Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’
    When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).
    As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

    United States — Muslim 1.0%
    Australia — Muslim 1.5%
    Canada — Muslim 1.9%
    China — Muslim 1%-2%
    Italy — Muslim 1.5%
    Norway — Muslim 1.8%

    At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

    Denmark — Muslim 2%
    Germany — Muslim 3.7%
    United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
    Spain — Muslim 4%
    Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

    From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
    They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. ( United States ).

    France — Muslim 8%
    Philippines — Muslim 5%
    Sweden — Muslim 5%
    Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
    The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
    Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

    At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
    When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).

    Guyana — Muslim 10%
    India — Muslim 13.4%
    Israel — Muslim 16%
    Kenya — Muslim 10%
    Russia — Muslim 10-15%

    After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
    Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

    At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

    Bosnia — Muslim 40%
    Chad — Muslim 53.1%
    Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

    From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

    Albania — Muslim 70%
    Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
    Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
    Sudan — Muslim 70%

    After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

    Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
    Egypt — Muslim 90%
    Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
    Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
    Iran — Muslim 98%
    Iraq — Muslim 97%
    Jordan — Muslim 92%
    Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
    Pakistan — Muslim 97%
    Palestine — Muslim 99%
    Syria — Muslim 90%
    Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
    Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
    United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

    100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s (supposed) to be peace because everybody is a Muslim: we know however that this isnt true is it…?

    Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
    Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
    Somalia — Muslim 100%
    Yemen — Muslim 99.9%

    Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons…and they are coming to a neighborhood near you…so keep thinking they are not going to harm you and they “accept” you

    • JR

      Gawd,

      When do you guys get over it and stop being cut and paste parrots?

      In the end, the definition of what is a cult is in the eyes of the beholder. For you, Islam is a cult obviously seen from the eyes of a fanatical christian….but on the other side, christianity is as much a cult as seen through the eyes of an Islamic fanatic.
      If you look at it from an atheist point of view, all religion is superstitious nonsense.

      Declaring something else a cult just because it is different then the believes you have is born out of narrow mindedness and fear.

      • Jana

        JR,
        Isn’t that what Islam stands for? Narrowmindedness and fear. Control. Bullying. That is your religion. Enjoy.

        • Carlucci

          I heard an interview yesterday on the radio with a mooslim man. Islam means “submission”. It does not mean “peace” as we have all been lead to believe. Far from it.

          The Sunni mooslims are a sect whose mission is to force conversion of the world to this false “religion”, and yes I would definitely call it a cult after what this man said. Their “god” Allah started out as a graven image – a small statue carved out of a rock. Of course there are cults in all religions, but this one is really scary as it is growing by leaps and bounds.

          Having lived in Saudi Arabia for a few years, it is known as “religion by the sword”. Their flag features two swords crossing.

          I don’t know about anyone else on this list, but I am stocking up on pork products………….

      • eddie47d

        spitfire;That same thread has been posted here at least 4 times. But being new we’ll let it slide. Welcome, and yes this is a liberal bashing Muslim hating site so you should feel at home.

      • JLC

        JR — I have been retired for more than 20 years now but, for 21 years prior to my retirement, I worked for a large American company as a field service engineer. I have worked in a number of Moslem countries, including Egypt, Turkey, and Somalia, as well as a few others. Without elaboration, you can take this from one who has seen it first-hand: YOU DO NOT WANT TO LIVE UNDER ISLAMIC LAW!!!

        • bob wire

          I’ll take your word for it!

          No booze, treat women like dogs, Manhood & honor destroyed because a woman gave a little up, goat abusers ! Wipe their bottom with their hand a claim a pig is a dirty animal, what more do I need to know?

          They’d have to throw in a magic carpet before I’d even consider it!

      • Karolyn

        Amen, JR.

      • Cawmun Cents

        You mean someone that claims an angel(supposedly Gabriel if you believe what is alledged)gave Him revelations that he should gather an army and rob caravans intil he could afford to impose his religion on others?Why would you call that a cult?Gee I dont know…Perhaps because it directly conflicts with what nearly all other religious practices condone.But what do I know?…Apparently very little,And dont bother telling me that people in the name of Christianity have done awful things…I know that.But our God doesnt tell us to convert or kill others even if some claim to do it in his name.That cannot be said for Islam.It is a directive of their “Prophet”.

    • bob wire

      Oh! it’s documented they kill their own in greater numbers then anyone else.

      If you are looking for an argument, you won’t find it here with me.

      But I’d like to think that we are all bright enough to understand, it’s not within any one person or nations power to make right all wrongs, to make just all the unjust, to feed all the hungry, to heal all the sick, to lift up all the down trodden.

      Some battles, no matter how noble, how worthy are not winnable.

      It is mother nature that will offer the thinning of the herd and it would be wise to follow her lead.

      The War is not for us to start but for us to endure. As a matter is simple fact, the war has long began.

      This Egypt flare up but one battle and it’s not really up to us to win it. The control of Egypt comes at great cost, while the 20th century business interest found it most useful.

      Today in the 21 century, I’m not convinced that same usefulness might exist. Needless to say big business and special interest might well hold different views, having became use to status quo for so long. Maybe it is they that should make “arrangements” and keep Government interest to the side, allowing supply and demand forces to actually work with the true intent of Capitalism allowing more people to enjoy what we seem to preach to the rest of the world?

      “Yesterday is history, tomorrow a mystery and today a gift! that’s why we call it “present”

      Eleanor Roosevelt (18184-1962)

      • Michael J.

        Bob Wire,
        Well, at least her mind wasn’t homely.

        • bob wire

          yea, Michael, I think maybe God had something special in mind for her,but it was not for this world.

    • 45caliber

      spitfire:

      The Koran is big on vengence. As long as everyone has a common enemy (anyone not Muslim) they fight together most of the time. But when things are all Muslim they begin to remember those vengences. I always thought the Hatfield/McCoy Fued to be stupid, but these clowns take the prize.

      Some will quote cases that go back over a thousand years. “Your many-times great grandfather robbed my many-times great grandfather. Therefore I have to punish you for it.” “Ah, but your many-times great grandfather stole a goat from mine first! So the vengence is mine!”

      There was a sad case in Bosnia that highlighted this for me. Two families lived next door to each other for over a hundred years. The fathers of both families had arranged marriages between them. One father had wed his daughter to the son of the other. When the war there broke out, the father of the woman went next door and shot everyone in the family – including his own daughter and grandchildren. When asked why, he recalled some problem several hundred years before. When asked why he had killed his own daughter and grandchildren, he stated that she had betrayed him by marrying to son (even though he was the one to set it up!) and the grandchildren were actually the children of the son (as if his daughter had nothing to do with it!).

  • Norm

    WASHINGTON — The uprising in the streets of Cairo presents tricky domestic politics for the Obama administration, as each diplomatic move is judged through multiple lenses, including promoting democracy abroad, Israeli security, and U.S. aid and military contracts.

    So far, Republicans lawmakers have showed restraint. On Sunday morning, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) applauded President Obama for his handling of the demonstrations against Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, going so far as to proclaim himself (in spirit) part of the administration.

    “I think the administration, our administration, so far has handled this tense situation pretty well,” the Ohio Republican told Fox News Sunday. “Clearly reforms need to occur in Egypt and frankly any place around the world where people are calling out for freedom or democracy, I think we have a responsibility to respond. And I think listening to the Egyptian people, working with the government to bring more democratic reforms is all in the right direction.”

    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) offered much the same during an appearance on NBC’s Meet the Press.

    “Well, I don’t have any criticism with President Obama or Secretary Clinton at this point,” he said. “They know full well that we can’t give the Egyptians advice about who their leadership is. That’s beyond the reach of the United States. And I think we ought to speak as one voice during this crisis.”

  • spitfire

    What did Mitch really mean by this statement?

    • bob wire

      He is saying, let us pause for a moment, wait and listen for that second shoe to hit the floor.

      • http://deleted Claire

        This is terrible, Obama may get a shoe thrown at him too. However, when that happened to Bush, I had to laugh, not out of disrespect to Bush, but out of the silliness of the act. It didn’t prove a thing to me. It was some sort of custom that the shoe thrower believed in. Different strokes for different folks.

        • Michael J.

          Claire,
          In the Muslim world, throwing a shoe, hitting someone with a shoe or indeed even showing someone the bottom of your shoe is considered showing the ultimate disrespect for that person. Bush actually chuckled sort of in disbelief when it happened. It would be interesting to observe Obama in the same unexpected circumstance, the results might be quite telling.

          • 45caliber

            It actually goes back to the Bible when Jesus told his followers if they were turned away to “shake the dust from their feet” in retaliation. And a lot of Islam is based on the Bible. Therefore they believe that showing the bottom of your shoe or throwing the shoe is one of the worst insults.

            It isn’t any sillier than some of our own customs. I find most “customs” funny.

          • http://deleted Claire

            I can tell you one thing–if someone threw a shoe at me, I would have picked it up and thrown it right back.

          • Carlucci

            Yes, because the feet are considered to be the dirtiest part of the body. Same thing in Thailand. You never sit facing someone with the soles of your shoes towards them. It is considered to be the height of rudeness.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Carlucci– I will remember this–the next time I sit near s politician I do not care for, I will be sure to let him see the bottom of my shoes!! lol

  • 45caliber

    Let’s just watch and stay out of the whole thing.

    I once was talking with a man about South Africa. He was very insistant that we needed to “do something about the government there.”

    As I told him then and is true now, we have no authority there. The ONLY way we could affect this would be to send in troops. And if we did, who are we going to support? In any case, we’d have to take over and BE a tyrant! Just leave them alone and let them work out their problems, good or bad. And at the same time we work out our OWN problems! When I told him that then, he said, “But we’d have to do …” And I said, “Exactly! We’d have to DO something instead of talk about how we could force someone else to do things our way!

    • http://getgrassfedwheyprotein.com James click for grass fed whey protein

      I agree 45caliber.

  • kevin

    We need to take care of the criminals within our own midst. Many of the atrocious foreign policies were put in place in our own names, which many of us had no clues whatsoever. I’m afraid what’s going on there would be happening here too before too long! Be fare, Obama just came in at the very end of mighty America; he didn’t have anything to do with past foreign policies; he might just regret to be president at the end of mighty America.

    • 45caliber

      kevin:

      I will admit that Oblama inherited problems. The real problem is that he is creating even more of them. Instead of creating more, he needs to eliminate the ones we have. For some reason he doesn’t seem interested in doing that. I can only suppose that he believes (like most politicians of both parties do) that a politician can only gain fame by what he puts into practice and not by eliminating the bad stuff.

  • Ronald Johnston

    osama obama is right on track with his evil agenda to destroy us.

  • Tinman

    kevin were you just born or have you been on another planet for the last two years?
    Bozone obama is a commie trying to ruin America once and for all. Get off the kool aid and libatard ways.

    foreign policy Teddy Roosevelt style:
    “Speak softly and carry a big stick” to foreign policy Barack Obama style: “Speak softly, bow deeply, and apologize often.”

    • Norm

      Tinman
      Big sticks cost money. We’re beyond broke and the patriotic American right wing nuts hate to pay taxes. They also think that the Constitution empowers us to rule the world.

      • bob wire

        You are only saying that because it’s True Norm!

        • Pete NY “R I P FEDERAL RESERVE BANK”

          NO. Norm is saying that because he is a confused troll.

          • bob wire

            Well, I think history is on Norm side of the argument in this case.

            but, ye~a?, Norm has spent some time under the bridge.

            But even Trolls rock and roll.

          • Michael J.

            Bob Wire,
            Thanks for jogging my memory, I do remember Norm’s band playing rock -n -roll under the bridge. I think the name of the band was Fragrant Vagrant. Name of the album was “Under the Over Pass”

          • bob wire

            Hmm? Are you sure you are not confusing Norm, with “Under the Bleachers” by the Seamore Butts band?

      • 45caliber

        Norm:

        The alternative to NOT having a big stick is not having a country or freedom.

        However, we already have the big stick – we just need to maintain it. That costs some less.

        Besides, if we cut our waste, that will do quite enough by itself. It isn’t the military that is bankrupting us; it is the various programs and departments that are set up “because it would the nice thing (or right thing depending upon who speaks) to do.”

        We need to make a list of everything done by the government and then mark them as NECESSARY or NICE TO HAVE. And everything in the “nice to have” list needs to go away until we have our debt and spending under control. Then we can see what “nice to have” things actually should be put back into service.

        For instance, it is nice to give to charities – but the government was never set up to do that. So all government “gifts” to charities need to go away. The same with foreign aid.

      • 45caliber

        Norm:

        You said the “right wing nuts believe the Constitution gives us the right to rule the world.”

        I think you have the side wrong. Most people considered right wing – even the nuts – prefer to remain at home and worry about our own affairs. It is the liberals who look at the bad things others are doing who want to go save them. Historically, it has been the Democrats who have gotten us into wars, not the “right wing nuts”. (I am excluding all wars fought because we were attacked first since it doesn’t matter who was in charge then.) In fact the Libertarians, who I believe are as right wing as you can get, want to pull everyone back to the U.S., put a ring around our country and ignore the rest of the world regardless of what they do.

    • eddie47d

      Tinman wants us to build more missiles (Big stick)and keep our military all over the world. Then we will collaspe like Russia did under the shear weight of that cost.

      • Michael J.

        Das va donya, pipsqueak.

      • 45caliber

        eddie:

        We don’t have to build them – we have enough. We just need to maintain them. Keep things correct – and simple.

  • http://com i41

    spitfire,the nurse gets escourted by a muslim guard that monitors the doorway, wheather they want to be escourted or not. A nurse is sending times, what shifts, she has worked and days in a week or 2. The pervert muslims building a $6 million mosque in the spring if they get they get the approval. They already have 3 mosque now. Between the muslims and the illegala the state is starting to get a grip. A few states are using Az laws as a blueprint to clear out illegals using the law enforcement for contacts. Islam is not a religion it is an ideology, created by a pedophile feel good freak. When the feel good crap didn’t work for the slub, which is the first part of the Queeran, he found it was easier to use frear and voilance to get and keep followers. The sich bastards last works as he was croaking were to fight and kill to take over the world. Any one watching the socialist liberal media sure isn’t showing many females, with the UN f–k El Bonehead’s close relationship with the Muslim Brotherhoood. Sure doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see the radicals, following Onumnutts handbooks for radical numnutts. Gathered from Alinski and Marx, master plans. What the hell we are still giving these goat abusing perverts our borrowed money for, is a wonder, same goes for the worthless UN. The idea of moderate muslims crap, they are only moderate when the number aren’t tooo good for them. try a 3 to 1 for rhem and see how moderate they are. Go to any college where those sand pervert orany city and see how moderate they are. The only thing those sand and vine hanging perverts under stand is severve force, talking is awaste of good air! If the feely meely envior s–t birds of the socialist one world feathered morons gathering to whine, would let USA sell its crude oil on the open markets, instead of leaving the massive supplies under ground and in full tank farms, we wouldn’t have to support the pervs or worry about the damned canel. The camel jockies would suddenly be going going back to their camels and goats. But since braindead idoits voted in all the soros socialist slubs 4 years ago, millions stay unemployed, food prices are going thru the roof, fuel and any other needed items will triple in price. Because with scarity and new regulations for banking, cap and trader, and employers requirements, it will be pretty disminal for a long term out look. What sorry bastards do the American get to thank, idoits that voted for Onumnutts, all Soros Socialists Pukes, airy fairy queers of tthe green envior ideology. With 3 decades of idling 30 million acres of productive farm ground by paying landowner to do nothing, it will finally hit home. Might have to turn to worthless screw around golf courses into neighood gardens, all have piped in water for irragation and good soil with handy facilities.

    • Jana

      i41,
      You are so right. Mohammad was a pedophile. A 56 yr. old man that ‘married’ a 6 yr. old girl.

  • K. Shonk

    It is instructive to remember that Mubarak became President as a consequence of the assasination of Anwar Sadat, an assasination that occurred as a consequence of a “fatwa” issued by a Muslim cleric (the same one later involved in the New York Trade Center bombing) and carried out by Islamic fundamentalists in the military. Sadat, just like Mubarak today, had become unpopular because issues over food (as well as the Egypt-Israel peace treaty. Sadat’s lifting of price controls was meant to stem food shortages but was very unpopular.

    If the 30% of the Egyptian people are members of the Muslim Brotherhood as some say, the situation is extremely critical. It might even become a situation comparable to Hitler’s rise to power in Germany in 1930 when, with 30% of the popular vote, Hitler was included in a “unity” government and went on to exploit that position to take over Germany. If the Muslim Brotherhood starts using intimidation politics to polarize the Egyptian people, Egypt and the world will be on a very dangerous path. Two years will tell the story.

    From Wikipedia: According to Tala’at Qasim, ex-head of the Gama’a Islamiyya interviewed in Middle East Report,the Islamic Group (al-Gama’a al-Islamiyya) that organized the assassination and recruited the assassin (Islambouli). Members of the Group’s ‘Maglis el-Shura’ (‘Consultative Council’) – headed by the famed ‘blind shaykh’ – were arrested two weeks before the killing, but they did not disclose the existing plans and Islambouli succeeded in assassinating Sadat.[27]
    On 6 October 1981, the month after the crackdown, Sadat was assassinated during the annual victory parade held in Cairo to celebrate Egypt’s crossing of the Suez Canal.[28] A fatwā approving the assassination had been obtained from Omar Abdel-Rahman, a cleric later convicted in the US for his role in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Sadat was protected by four layers of security and eight bodyguards, and the army parade should have been safe due to ammunition-seizure rules. As Egyptian Air Force Mirage jets flew overhead, distracting the crowd, Egyptian Army soldiers and troop trucks paraded. One troop truck contained the assassination squad, led by Lieutenant Khalid Islambouli. As the truck passed, the assassins dismounted, and Islambouli approached Sadat. Sadat stood to receive his salute, whereupon, Islambouli threw three grenades at Sadat, only one of which exploded, and additional assassins rose from the truck, firing assault rifles into the stands. After Sadat was hit and fell to the ground, people threw chairs around him to protect him from the hail of bullets. He died from bullet wounds to his aorta though he also had intestinal and neck wounds. The attack lasted about two minutes. Sadat and eleven others were killed, including the Cuban ambassador, an Omani general, and a Coptic Orthodox bishop. 28 were wounded, including Vice President Hosni Mubarak, Irish Defence Minister James Tully, and four US military liaison officers.
    The assasination was intended to spark a public uprising leading to installation of a Islamic government.

    • http://deleted Claire

      K. Shonk: I appreciate your post, it brought back memories. This was a sad day.

      • eddie47d

        It sure was and it forced Egypt to choose another extremist course. They invoked their own Patriot Act and the people suffered. They need another change and one that keeps all extremist’s at bay.We should pray for a strong Egyptian leader who will cherish personal liberties but not cave in to the Egyptian radicals.

        • Brad

          eddie just go home

        • eddie47d

          What! You don’t care about personal liberties then maybe you ought to be the one who goes home.Adios.

          • Brad

            Bye Bye little edwardo and good ridence.

          • eddie47d

            Double Adios!!

    • Robert Pa.

      No problem, a few “Megatons” should solve the problem.

      • Michael J.

        Won’t work, they have several 5000 year old bunkers right outside of town.

        • 45caliber

          But those bunkers won’t hold all of them.

  • chucky

    Let’s turn back the clock. You as an American had a choice in 2008. You had a choice between a man who served his country in the armed forces,Was a P.O.W. during the vietnam war, Served in Washington as a Senator(not 18 months)Was more of a centralist could cross the aisle and produce by compromise. The other canidate has three alias names(anyone I ever met in my life experience that changed their name(I do not mean a woman getting married) usually 99% of the time spelled trouble or was problematic) Had all of his college records sealed, Had evidence that he was a member of a church that hates, his father was a communist, his mother worked to spread socialism, If you look at the both men and really looked at the lives they lived your choice should of been easy as an American. I voted for John McCain because he was the best of what was offered of the canidates to choose. If you stop listening to media spin and come to your own conclusion by checking out the biographies of the canidates,Then you as a citizen will serve your country well

    • bob wire

      It was McCain’s too lose, and “he” did! now reset your watch and come up to speed. The world needs your help chucky.

      • Michael J.

        bob wire,
        McCain took a dive at the behest of the progressive grand wizard, same as Romney will do in 2012.

        • bob wire

          Well, whatever he did, it didn’t work!

          I think McCain waited until the final 4 days to suit out and really get on the “message”. Up to that point, he had been shadow boxing with an illusion of having a game.

        • Karolyn

          And how would you say he took this “dive?” By making Palin his running mate?

          • Curtis

            Exactly. A credible VP and McCain would be president right now.

    • JR

      The reason main street America voted for Obama and against McKain was the realization that by voting McKain the US would have been on its way to WW-III.
      The majority in this country would have voted against McKain because of this even if the oppose candidate had 2 horns and a whipping tail.

      • Peter Waldo

        Obuma and Hillarious Bomb are now leading us to WWIII by fomenting this anti-US and anti-Israel, pro-Islamofascist revolution through their union, marxist, community activist allies.

      • LES

        They voted against Goldwater because he was a war monger and Johnson was not, we all know how that turned out.

        There is no evidence McCain would start WWIII, he saw war up close and would probably have worked to to prevent it.

        • chucky

          Great point Les anyone who has been to war will do everything in his power to prevent it,And if provoked into war will try to end it sooner not later. Let me put it this way, If you are the CEO of a corporation were given a choice to hire only one of these men as your top excetutive as president of your company by their resume and life experiences alone which man would hire?

        • bob wire

          yea , well we could hope I guess. But “Bomb Bomb Bomb ~ Bomb Iran” sounds a little more like “pay backs” to me.

        • debalazo

          LES,

          McSqueal is yet to face prosecution for stupidly killing many of his fellow airmen aboard a carrier, only saved cos his father was an Admiral.

          Then later when captured by the NVs he squealed in exchange for a pain killer, the point where his navy pilot buddies entered the North to attack Hanoi, and the Viets had a ball shooting them off the air, until the US invaders realized they were hoodwinked, though not by whom.

          That puppet and traitor works for the zionic mafia, not the people of his country. He would gladly start WW3 for the glory and profit if israel and the Roths. He wanted to escalate all present wars until election time, after all, he is blackmailed and can be exposed just like Dubya the Boosh could, and oBambi can be, if these worthless people dare not obey their marching orders from the ZOG in the DC Latrine.

  • chuckb

    egypt, democratic reforms! lol lol, you mean sharia law under the caliph. barry will be the first one to congratulate egypts new leader and will bring his own rug.
    barry is more inept by the day, he’s even less than carter if that’s possible.

    • bob wire

      I don’t care if they want Jerry Springer as long as it what a majority wants. They will be the ones left to enjoy or suffer their decision.

      In someways, we could be hurt and some ways we might be helped.

      I don’t feel too bad about not having to sending them a big fat check every quarter.

      I wonder where Israel stands in all of this? She is bristled up and working contingency plans would be my guess.

      • Michael J.

        bob wire,
        Jerry Springer is Jewish. If he were to go to Egypt, you’d have to resurect Moses to get him back out again.

      • 45caliber

        BW:

        They are also trying to help the existing government where they can. That’s why they agreed to letting Egypt have some armed soldiers in the Siania.

        • bob wire

          hmm? well, it sounds reasonable and in good faith. As allies and neighbors, silence sends a poor message of good will.

  • American Citizen

    The biggest reason we remained friends to Egypt is because it has control of the Suez Canal through which the oil ships come. We have a treaty with Egypt. The situation there is harrowing now with the people there destroying their heritage and not knowing what is really ahead of them. Obama made a speech there a few years ago encouraging them to want democracy. Now he’s just wringing his hands, not really knowing what to do. It’s best if he just keeps his mouth shut.

    • 45caliber

      One problem with your comment. The Suez Canal cannot handle supertankers. In fact, several years ago it was discussed that the US might fund widening and deepening of the Canal for that purpose. We didn’t do it because of cost and because we didn’t trust their government.

      I do agree that a lot of ships go through there – but not carrying oil.

  • Robert Pa.

    Let it “Burn”!!! These people have acted this way for tens of thousands of years. Dogs only fight for less than a minute then quit. People aren’t that smart!! Remember, “You can’t fix Stupid”!!!!
    Maybe they will vote in a dozen Ayatollahs to really mess things up and reverse things several thousand years.
    “Be careful what you wish for”!!!

    • 45caliber

      Hey, if herding goats and cutting off heads was good enough for Mohammad it is good enough for the rest of them! Why should they want to come up to the modern civilization?

      • debalazo

        “45caliber says:
        Hey, if herding goats and cutting off heads was good enough for Mohammad it is good enough for the rest of them! Why should they want to come up to the modern civilization?”

        Am sure he meant chopping off his enemies, right? How about olden jews sacrificing babies to their satanic god Moloch? Cool?

        Herding goats? How about one Isaiah urging his flock to capture as many slaves as possible, and make them work the land and feed them? Honorable?

        What is worse, dust in Mohammed’s eye, or a log in Isaiah’s? Or across his blunt fanatical brain? No wonder the brave terrorists in Tel Aviv order such massacres of children and women in Palestine, to the glee of the civilized worshippers of Moloch.

        • Jana

          debal,

          The Jews that did this sacrificing were worshiping idols. As you said a satanic god moloch. So you know they were out of God’s will.

          You said “What is worse, dust in Mohammed’s eye, or a log in Isaiah’s? Or across his blunt fanatical brain? No wonder the brave terrorists in Tel Aviv order such massacres of children and women in Palestine, to the glee of the civilized worshippers of Moloch.”

          I have never heard of your story about Isaiah. Probably one of your Islamic fables.
          Mohammed had a huge log in his eye, not a little bit of dust. He is a Pedophile. He was a real sicko.
          Are you a brave terrorist? You sure sound like you support terrorism.

          • bob wire

            I believe goat boy is , how you say? attempting to Convert the infidels!

            It’s A Zionist plot and fight for control of the world as foretold in early scripture. Or something to that effect?

            Just another voice crying in the wilderness. Repent! and follow me! I know the truth and where I’m going!

            It’s already been done, ~ turned out rather poorly if memory serves.

  • http://getgrassfedwheyprotein.com James click for grass fed whey protein

    For one, I think the United States is the ally of the Egyptian people, not one man or one regime. We’re the ally of the government of Egypt as long as that government represents the people.

    Two, I think Mubarak is to blame for anything that goes wrong here for not transitioning and transforming his government in all his years as a dictator, not Obama.

    I hope things tip towards the modern, educated men and women who want better opportunity, better productivity for Egypt, and a better life, and not the radicals. It’s definitely a tipping point. If it goes the wrong way, I lay the blame at Mubarak’s feet.

    Governments are essentially mobsters, and legalized mafias that have the sole power to use coercive force to extort money from the people to build their power. Some governments are just worse than others. I hope Egypt gets a half way decent one.

  • chuckb

    james
    james
    people in the carter administration said the same thing you are repeating, guess what, we got iran. do you think we should have listened to muslims claiming the shah was a terrible dictator, he jailed dissidents and so on? do you think for one minute that this uprising in egypt is not a planned event by the muslim brotherhood or hamas, these people (animals) are after one thing to destroy israel, so remember something else, when they attack israel guess who will have to join the fracas. we will be in the middle of ww3. mubarak should use the army and remove the protesters and then hold elections in sept and keep the brotherhood banned.

    • 45caliber

      One of my cousins was dating an Iranian student at the time of the Shah. He went to every protest in America to protest the Shah. (Of course, with his face covered) I asked him one time why he hated the Shah so much.

      He said that the Shah was taking all the income from the oil for himself. That he wanted the Shah out so they could split up the money.

      I asked him then how much the Iranian government (the Shah) was paying for his schooling, his income while at school ($35,000 a year) and his other costs.

      Later, when the Shah was forced out, he was recalled by the Iranian government. He went back happy, certain that he was going to be a millionare.

      Six months later he managed to sneak a letter out to my cousin. She let me read it. He was desperate to get out. All people who the Shah had tried to educate were being killed one way or another. They had started a war with Iraq (the reason we supported Saddam at the time). He and others like him had been placed in the army. They were to attack – without weapons – to give those behind him a human shield. He was going to try to sneak out and get away …

      We never heard of him again.

      So I believe the Shah was the best choice in the first place.

      • bob wire

        and so we hear “The rest of the story” ~ things aren’t as they seem.

        Good story! I love it! ~ I lost a pretty long legged Rockette to one of them bootlegging cigarette sale’ing, slime-balls, New York sand monkeys. ~ Women!

        • debalazo

          “bob wire says:
          I lost a pretty long legged Rockette to one of them bootlegging cigarette sale’ing, slime-balls, New York sand monkeys…”

          Geeeh, bobby! Thou should have keepeth yer mouth not-open!! See what ya just said?? If one of these depreciated sand monkeys took yer woman (maybe coz he was a better stud?), where that leaves you?? Bottom of the barrel!

          Prudence, bobby, always look at yourself in the mirror before you spill the beans out of yer mouth, or cast a stone at others in public!

          • bob wire

            LOL! maybe so, ~ But I wouldn’t live in NY just for her. It was good but it wasn’t that good. A hoofer’s professional career is very short, they dream of spin offs and hitting it big and sometimes they do. Lots of glamor and being seen.

            The big city has taken many a pretty woman only to spit them out. That’s where she was headed with her cigarette boy, living on family money and untaxed cigarettes.

            Women are subject to the same flaws and failures of men and do stupid thing. But hey, I went with Joplin for 6 months,it was never about “keeping” anything but just how long you could ride the wave, you know all along it’s to end.

            Load up on sweet memories so you have something to think about while waiting for your next bowl movement.

      • debalazo

        45er,

        Now you forgot your own medication! “So I believe the Shah was the best choice in the first place”.

        ‘Choice’? Whose choice, the iranians, or the zionist holywans infiltrated in the US Gov? Coz if the ZOGgie wans selected the Shah, then they could have cheap oil stolen for Tel Aviv. Just like they do through Haifa in Iraq today, no thanks to dummy maximus Dubya The Boosh. See the repetitive connection?

        Always these holywans toeing into every place they can extricate some benefit for free, aka, rapine. And yet, the Mess Media plays dumb, or blind, to their callous ransacking of the world resources.

        And no, I don’t mean the mossleans, I mean the jews.

        • bob wire

          45, I think English must be his second or third language, watch out he’s a mean one! I think he’s got him feeling hurt, darn it! I hate it when that happens!

    • debalazo

      chuckie,
      if the Sha was imposed by the ‘West’, and so was Mubarak, why do you resent the people, or even the ‘brotherhood’, to depose these pathetic tyrants who cheat their people and their countries for a foreign power or two? Who gives the US (or ZOG) and israel the right to nose into other country’s affairs, then complain these people hate them?

      And what has the USA gotten from their favorite pet (or suburb), israel, and holywans in general? Lemme repeat: 911, USS Liberty, USS Cole, Beirut, JFK, 2.3 Trillion from the Pentagon, stolen nuclear secrets, stolen war technology, WW1, WW2, Pearl Harbor, Lavvon Afair, 14 Trillion just stolen by the FED… ad nauseam!

      And yet to be allowed by American sleepers, WW3, as promised by a holywan of these, the fanatic lunatic Pearle, right after 911. You live in Tel Aviv, don’t ya?

      • Jana

        debal,
        You are opening your mouth and proving our point. Islam is evil.

  • marvin

    floods feast famine wars and rumors of war earth quakes fires pestilence,the world wide, the horsemen of the apocalypse are on their way no man knowest the time or day but the signs are their for all to see ,old bible truth that some will scoff at

    • Norm

      It is between fifty and sixty years since I read the Apocalypse, and I then considered it merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy, nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams…. what has no meaning admits no explanation.
      – Thomas Jefferson, to Alexander Smyth, January 17, 1825

      • debalazo

        Norm,
        That’s almost 200 years ago. Jefferson would jump out of his socks if he lived today to see how the Christian Bible predicted today’s incidents and concocted agendas by a group of self-adoring fanatics who claim ownership of a land they only squatted as passer-bys out their abode in Shinar, Babyloonie, to inflict pain and sorrow on the world through deceit, rapine, and war, by creating conflict and pitting nation against nation in their maddening quest for world domination at any cost in human life, of their imaginary or deserved enemies.

        Jefferson may have erred on Apocalypse, but not on the perpetrators. He had an eye on them all the time. You should have quoted also the letters he wrote to Washington on the rapinous banksters of the time.

    • JR

      There always have been floods, famine,wars, earthquakes and epidemics, always have, always will, and it has nothing to do with the apocalypse or the bible.
      Its called the cycle of life on this planet. Christian believers have ample of times during the last 2000 years believed the apocalypse has arrived…they believed it when the Muslims conquered part of Europe, during European wars, during the little Ice Age and crop failure and the millions starving to death, during the pestilence and the black plaque…..and still we are all around and kicking. I firmly believe that the so called end times are nothing but the innate wish for Jesus to return and an inherent death wish by a lot of adherence to the modern version of the bible. The fact that today’s bible is nothing but a PC version of ancient scripture and 2/3rds of the original books are not included in it because they did not adequately promote the type of control and message the organized church wanted at the last recompiling of the bible has me question many of the doom and gloom parts as included in the modern bible. Many of those parts are included to help the organized church to control they’re sheep and i.m.h.o. has nothing to do with the original message of salvation.
      Many of the bibles passages have to do with mass control and have nothing to do with the message of Jesus.
      Research when the concept of hell was invented and for what reason…and you will find that what I am saying is true. Organized church and religion will be the destruction of the true message and the true meaning of christianity.

  • JeffH

    The US and other non-muslim nations have an even bigger dilema to be faced with if the influential jihadist “Muslim Brotherhood” wrestles control of Egypt rather than a pro-democracy regime. This very well could be the match that lights the fire for WWIII and every non-muslim country should be very concerned.

    Since it signed the U.S.-brokered Camp David Peace Treaty with Israel back in September 1978, Egypt has been the recipient of billions of dollars in U.S. military equipment, including state-of-the art fighter planes, warships, missiles, battle tanks and electronic equipment. The weapons in the Egyptian military arsenal include F-16 fighter planes, attack helicopters, frigates, advanced Sidewinder and Hellfire missiles and Abrams battle tanks – purchased mostly with U.S. Foreign Military Financing.

    Egypt was designated a major non-NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) ally by the United States in 1989 under the administration of President George H.W. Bush.

    This status allows Cairo access to more sophisticated U.S. weaponry and opens the door for entry into cooperative research and development projects alongside the United States.

    Egypt has one of the strongest militaries in the Middle East, behind Israel and Turkey and ahead of Iran in terms of advanced firepower – air and sea power, armored/mechanized capabilities.
    http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/01/29-0

    “It is the nature of Islam to dominate, not to be dominated, to impose its law on all nations and to extend its power to the entire planet.” –Hasan al-Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood

    “Allah is our goal; the Messenger is our model; the Koran is our constitution; jihad is our means; and martyrdom in the way of Allah is our aspiration.”

    • eddie47d

      Sounds like a group of American Militiamen sitting around the campfire.Stroking their guns,quoting passages out of the Bible and dreaming of taking over Washington. Every country has it’s angry fanatics…but does anybody have the power to stop them and keep them from imploding.Most of the time we can only let things play out.

      • always right

        Eddie, you’re an a$$hole

        • American Patriot

          STANDING OVATION BY THE PEOPLE WITH CLAPPING AND SCREAMS OF “BRAVO”

        • JeffH

          always right, it’s hurts eddie much more to prove him wrong or point out his mis-information than to stoop to his level and name call.

          • eddie47d

            Just pointing out the hypocrisies Jeff and you popped up.

          • JeffH

            eddie…and where was the “hypocrisy” in my original post? I won’t hold my breath waiting for you answer.

          • eddie47d

            You were not apart of the original conversation Jeff. You butted in and then claim I was talking about you. You weren’t the hypocrite but since you chimed in again I think I’ll make you one too. A big Azz Hypocrite.

          • JeffH

            eddie, WRONG again. All of these comment were posted under my “original” post.

            JeffH says:
            February 2, 2011 at 1:04 pm

            Your resonse was and I’ll quote:
            eddie47d says:
            February 2, 2011 at 1:29 pm
            Sounds like a group of American Militiamen sitting around the campfire.Stroking their guns,quoting passages out of the Bible and dreaming of taking over Washington. Every country has it’s angry fanatics…but does anybody have the power to stop them and keep them from imploding.Most of the time we can only let things play out.

            Trickle down responses under my ORIGINAL post…and you’re trying to tell me I’m wrong? Why am I not surprised that you’d try to deny the obvious.

          • JeffH

            …along with your foul mouth…

          • eddie47d

            oops! I guess it did relate to your post. My apologies.

          • JeffH

            eddie, Thank you and accepted.

        • eddie47d

          The feeling could be mutual -AR

      • JeffH

        eddie says: “Sounds like a group of American Militiamen sitting around the campfire.Stroking their guns,quoting passages out of the Bible and dreaming of taking over Washington.”

        eddie, as it applies to you died in the wool, head buried in the sand, it can’t happen to us, you’re all insane, walking and talking liberals it might sound that way. To the rest of the non-liberal thinking world and the more enlightened/informed, heads not buried, real people here in America we just have to remember what happened on 12/7/1941 and 9/11/2001.

        In case you haven’t heard, there are Islamic Muslim Jihadist fanatics and terrorists here in the USA and around the world that will kill you and your kids in a heartbeat if you are not “one of them”.

        I’d ask if you knew something that the rest of the people don’t know, but you prove over and over again that you don’t, so I won’t ask.

        • American Patriot

          Jeff, I hate to bust you bubble. But, 9-11 was an inside job. The underwear bomber was another staged attack. I just wish people would start researching these issues. Go to infowars.com today and listen to the accounts of what was seen by an Attourny and his wife. That underwear bomber was escorted on board the plane that day by some well dressed men before the flight took off 13 months ago. IT WAS STAGED! LOOK UP ALL THE EVIDENCE. OK? I’m just trying to get people to start looking at things. Please check out infowars.com. Click on listen to Alex now.

          • debalazo

            AP,

            Alex Megaphone Jones is a zionist shill. He always overcoats the predators with such titles as Illuminati, Globalists, Masons, Vatican, rogues, Death Cults, Boners, and similar misleading and protective titles. But never dares mention the word ‘j-e-w’. Shhhh…!!

        • JeffH

          One more little point you seemed to have “overlooked” is that “IF and when” the Muslim Jihadists get control, which they are trying to do, they will also control Egypt’s military resources and hardware.

          Wouldn’t you consider that a real problem for the mid-east and western influenced non-muslim nations? I certainly would and I’m sure many nations can agree with that thought.

        • JeffH

          American Patriot, Thanks but you’re not bursting my bubble at all. I have my doubts also. If you payed close enough attention to my postings and comments, you’d know that I realize everything that happens “is not what it appears” up to and including presidential assasinations and attempted assasinations. I won’t rely on Alex Jones for all of my research but I do take his points into consideration. I think it’s necessary to filter all of the info available and draw conclustions from that info.

        • Lewis Munn

          Jeff,

          Eddie is just nostalgic for the excitement of those two dates, and wants to see if his history book is really accurate, or if maybe the conservatives in the US did not really start those wars, and history books are all lying!!

          • JeffH

            Lewis Munn, he’s just the board’s liberal harpy.

      • debalazo

        eddie,

        None of my biz interfering with other’s conversations, but, have you heard of one such Thomas Jefferson? He proclaimed openly that every 20 years there should be a revolt (revolution?) to oust the tyrants in Washington, as power corrupts, and unlimited (liberal) power corrupts liberally… or something.

        And who would accomplish such task? None other than the People’s Militia! The only one authorized by the Constitution to bear arms! That Militia rubbing their long rifles and reading the Bible for inspiration (to cast the Beast from Babylon into Abyss a for a thousand years?).

        It pays to read American history, keep guns oiled, locked and loaded, and read the Christian Bible to stay in focus.

  • JeffH

    Something we all should read and understand.
    Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan) Infiltration and Influence in America
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1974810/posts

    The FBI captured this document it in a 1991 raid on a Muslim suspect’s home in Virginia. This “explanatory memorandum,” as it’s titled, outlines the “strategic goal” for the North American operation of the extremist Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan). Here’s the key paragraph:

    “The process of settlement [of Islam in the United States] is a “Civilization-Jihadist” process with all the word means. The Ikhwan must understand that all their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” their miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and Allah’s religion is made victorious over all religions. Without this level of understanding, we are not up to this challenge and have not prepared ourselves for Jihad yet. It is a Muslim’s destiny to perform Jihad and work wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes, and there is no escape from that destiny except for those who choose to slack.”

    Is this just alarmist paranoia? Not at all. This is a reality we all must face, whether as peacefull and friendly Muslims, Christians, athiests or complete non-believers.
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1974810/posts

    • debalazo

      “JeffH says:
      Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan) Infiltration and Influence in America
      http://www.freerepublic

      What me worry?? We KNOW, because strange people always publish those ‘clues’, that moose limbs are going to attack, convert, or invade America. But why on earth these same mysterious investigators never post all the crimes ALREADY committed against the US and its people by the holywans who did 911, the USS Liberty, the USS Cole, the Marine post in Beirut, the Lavon affair, JFK, the FED-IRS-IncomeTax, all crimes against Americans? And insist on driving this country and the world into WW3? Why the hypocrisy by the ‘freepers’?

      Besides, it was ‘British’ Rothschild agents who created ‘Wahaabism’ or ‘radical islam’, to have another tool of disruption and division in the ME, prior to their latest exploit, El-Al-CIA-duh, to spawn and front their ‘War on Terrorism’ (on Americans and the world)

      Were it not for holywan dual-passport ‘representatives’ who imposed open border immigration laws in the USA, same as they do in all balkanized countries, Muslims and Christians would be minding their own business, instead of fearing or distrusting each other.

      • JeffH

        debalazo, plenty of us here are well aware of the “Zionist” Rothschilds and we can easily get caught up in our perceptions of cause and affect. Believe what you may but I’m going to go out on a limb here(maybe not)and say you’re completely obsessed with the “zionist” conspiracy. I can’t really say there isn’t a “zionist” conspiracy taking place around the world and I can’t say with complete confidence that there is. What I do know is that the House of Rothschilds has been operating for hundreds of years with their International Banking Cabal and buying, manipulating and controlling the economy and govrnments, including our own. I’m quite sure they are the penultimate force driving the major events and economies of the world. They are that powerful.

  • Raggs

    You have to understand that a 30 year rule of a dictator in any country is not much different that a 40 or 50 year term in office in the US.

    We have the exact problem as Egypt, only we call our crooks “elected”.

    • Karolyn

      Oh, please Raggs, you cannot compare our country with theirs! Give me a break!

      • Raggs

        No comparison of the countries, just a comparison of the “elite”.
        You cannot tell me that you think that we have a prefect system and everyone that is “elected” are angels…

        My question to you is … Why the hell do we need politicans to make a life long career out of any branch of office?

        Power corrupts!!!

        • Lewis Munn

          Would it help if we gave them all random sobriety tests…with no announcements before hand?

          • Raggs

            Bleep-Bleep-Bleep….

        • 45caliber

          Raggs:

          Your comment reminded me of a science fiction story I read years ago. The politicians in it were picked at random from the population and could only serve for a term or so. Most didn’t want the job. But it was the only way they had determined to get decent people instead of criminals for the job.

          • Raggs

            Yeah… also the herder and the sheep. It makes me sick.

      • debalazo

        Of coure not, Karolyn. Egypt has an ‘open’ dictatorship of the submissive to israel and the zionist occupation government in the US, while we have here, since 1913, a ‘closet’ dictatorship by zionists over lame and dumbed down sheeple, via pre-selected puppet ‘representatives’ who proclaim were elected by the sheeple, yet sold their coats for a few shekels more.

  • Peter Waldo

    Obama and Hilary are at fault for not seeing this coming? Not quite. They are a part of this revolution. Obama and Hilarious have been behind this for three years. It has been shown that soon after Obama’s inauguration that he was facilitating grass roots personal media revolution seminars for foreign community activists. Look at the seminars in Columbia University.

  • Dr. Mabuse

    Can a guy get some more vitriol around here?
    Come on gang, I know you’re up to it !!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/user/PalesInComparison#p/u

    • bob wire

      LOL! he he he! your bad! too funny!

      politics is so ~ mean!

    • Raggs

      Give me a freakin break…. you make yourself appear stupid by posting that link.

      • Karolyn

        Oh? And what’s wrong with that link Raggs? If it was against Obama, you would have posted it yourself!

        • Michael J.

          karolyn,
          What’s wrong with the blatant propaganda video is that it doesn’t mention Obama’ affiliation with Rev. Wright, William Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Frank Marshall Davis, Van Jones, Anita Dunn and a list of other communist that’s longer than a Moscow census report.

          And there’s his involvement by proxy with the Muslim Brotherhood and their current seige on Egypt which has seemingly slipped by the makers of this video.

          I could go on for two days compiling an adequate list of what’s wrong with this video, but what’s the use, Liberals have a synapses disconnect when it comes to absorbing facts.

          • bob wire

            Well Sir, It doesn’t mention Mister Keating either. ~ or the Palin extended family drug bust Or elaborate on how the Reagan hated McCain for the way he treated his wife. Nancy despised McCain and took his discarded wife into care. She was in the hospital when McCain dumped her!

            So if you think some omissions warrant ignoring some truths, where might it end? ~ Only when you are satisfied with it?

            I’d don’t believe that your satisfaction are any more important then mine!

          • Michael J.

            Bob Wire,
            Don’t know who Mr. Keating is. Don’t know about a Palin family drug bust. When it comes to McCain though, if you hold him down, I’ll pee on’em. I was fond of the Vietnam Vet, ex-POW senator at one time, but have since learned to loathe the hawkish by day, vote with the Democrats by night RINO. Nope, he’s all yours as far as I’m concerned, do with him as you wish.

          • bob wire

            Well Michael. John was always reckless and a victim of his own undoing.

            But today, his is simply a senior political animal, a product of the GOP and the influences Capital Hill and the most affluent in the nation.

            It is for this reason, he was found in a disconnect with many American in Nov. 2008.

            I would gladly hold him down for you, but bring a sack lunch for I fear the line will be quite long.

    • Lewis Munn

      I’m sick and tired of Vitriol. Can’t we switch to Prussic acid for a bit, and then move to Lye after Lye?

      • Raggs

        You know what Lewis…. I’m sick of a lot of things!
        I have a long list of those things that obama has and is doing.
        And you throwing gasoline on the fire helps nothing…but that is the progressive mindset afterall…

        • bob wire

          While I surely don’t encourage or approve of airing out personal family digressions of politician, it’s long known that “others” don’t mind at all. And in fact this clip is actually a response to just a few thrown at Obama and his family from right wing partisans.

          I challenge you or anyone to expose one lie in this short clip of data that I see as being painfully accurate and highlights the searing absurdity of GOP talking points and banter.

        • bob wire

          “I have a long list of those things that obama has and is doing.”

          Raggs , I like to see that list!

          But what I wouldn’t want to hear, is things my children use to pull on each other and label them as serious transgressions that demanded my immediate attention.

          Example ! ” Daddy !,Luke is looking in my room again!”

          “`Daddy, Mandy has hid the remote!”

          “Momma!, Rachael has locked me out and got my hair spray!”

          “Daddy!, Rachael and Mandy are being mean and won’t let me play!”

    • Pete NY “R I P FEDERAL RESERVE BANK”

      Slick Willie calibre farce. No one can prove that Obama was a law professor at Harvard. Not even Obama. BTW, how many States are there in the USA? 57?

    • Karolyn

      Oh, I love it!!!!

  • JeffH

    Somethin everyone should read and understand.

    Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan) Infiltration and Influence in America
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1974810/posts

    The FBI captured this document it in a 1991 raid on a Muslim suspect’s home in Virginia. This “explanatory memorandum,” as it’s titled, outlines the “strategic goal” for the North American operation of the extremist Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan). Here’s the key paragraph:

    “The process of settlement [of Islam in the United States] is a “Civilization-Jihadist” process with all the word means. The Ikhwan must understand that all their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” their miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and Allah’s religion is made victorious over all religions. Without this level of understanding, we are not up to this challenge and have not prepared ourselves for Jihad yet. It is a Muslim’s destiny to perform Jihad and work wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes, and there is no escape from that destiny except for those who choose to slack.”

    Is this just alarmist paranoia? Not at all. This is a reality we all must face, whether as peacefull and friendly Muslims, Christians, athiests or complete non-believers.

  • misguided

    Maybe the US is not drilling for the oil in the US because they is trying to use up all the oil in the middle east and then the US will start pumping oil here and control the world. Is that not what the US wants.

    • debalazo

      misguided,

      Oil is the blood of the earth. The Russians found that out around the time of the ill fated, zionist inspired Vietnam war, where so many innocent, and US cannon fodder for israel (remember one Kissinger Khazar?), died for nothing?

      The Russians drilled thousands of feet under granite rock, to find inexhaustible deposits of oil and gas, created by Methane gas and heat. ‘Fossil fuel’ my foot! Google ‘Peak Oil is a Zionist Scam’.

      And the Russians (Soviets) started two of these wells in Vietnam, one in N. Korea, and have several of their own on their soil. But the western vampires cannot replicate yet their accomplishment nor they have their secret technique, plus it takes some 30 years to hit black gold, so they want to invade all countries with ‘shallow’ wells like theirs to have a comparable supply in case something happens with their expansionist and criminal rapinous wars of invasion, for the glory of zion, and the Zionist Occupation Government (ZOG) in the USA.

      Fear not. We live on the water planet. Google ‘Water4Gas’, ‘Joe cell’, ‘Browns Gas’, ‘HHO’, H2O2′, and start experimenting with these Hydrogen fuel cells. They work. Watch their videos, then make one and kick the vampires to swim into their oil ponds!

      • 45caliber

        devalazo:

        If I thought you knew what you were talking about I might pay attention. But you lost all credibility when you started saying that the Vietnam war was fought because of Israel. Are you sure you took your medication today?

        • Raggs

          :)

        • debalazo

          45er,

          That expression ‘your medication’ is such a worn out line from Tel Aviv, your credentials are glowing in the dark.

          Of course! Learn to tie knots, and you can track back Nam to ‘israel’ via the Roths, the financiers of all wars including the Independence War.

          And since they founded, helped by Hitler and IBM, their outpost called ‘israel’ in Palestine to steal all oil to strangle the world by witholding it, like they did through the US by denying oil to the Japs earlier on, and since ‘israel’ is so indispensable for their fractal agenda of world slavery, AND….

          …since Kissinger is but one of their zionic agents of rapine, and Kissinger was involved both in the continuation of the failed French invasion of Nam, and the lie about the Tonkin Gulf ‘attack’ to the US Fleet by a torpedo canoe (or kayak?), to further the invasive war same as oBUMa did recenlty with Afghanistan, all for oil (Nam has oil in its coastline)…

          …to mention ‘israel’ is not to mean the actual squatters of Palestine, but the Roths’ outpost in general to strangle the ME and the world by stealing and locking all the Arab oil. Get the picture now? THAT’s how Nam, and all wars of rapine, connect to ‘israel’.

          It’s the jews, Mickey, not the moose limbs!

          • bob wire

            I know what we were told, as for myself ~ I wasn’t too busy and the draft was breathing down my collar, so I thought I mine as well go limit out on gorillas!

            And was I ever disappointed when I see how scrawny they were. Gorilla just didn’t seem to fit at first.

            But what they didn’t have in size, they made for with being sneaky, quick, low down and meaner then hell. They like to cut people open and play with your guts awhile before you died. You really don’t want to know it all. A sadistic bunch of little ba$tards.

            I hate that we went but hate more that we had to leave and leave the Southern people. They never had the heart for the fight. It was a blood bath after we left and that’s another thing you just don’t want to really know about.

  • LES

    Over the last 100 years, on the whole, the US has done more good for more people in the world that all other nations combined. Millions of people owe their freedom either directly or indirectly to the US. When the US is no longer a super power totalitarianism will slowly descend over the earth.

    • Lewis Munn

      LES,

      On what do you base the scenario time-frame? I will predict that totalitarianism will fall like the curtain on the stage after the US takes our last bow!

      Been predicted before, also, and I doubt you want to be here on earth when the light of Liberty goes out!

    • debalazo

      “LES says:
      Over the last 100 years… US has done more good for more people in the world… Millions of people owe their freedom… to the US.”

      Are you in the military? Coz Smedley Butler was. And he said wars were
      a racket, and that 100 years before him the US owned NO foreign territory, complying with the wish of the Founders.

      Today, so many lives have been lost to judeo-American wars for oil
      rapine and the imposition of jew banking cartels, something like 170
      million victims in the past century alone, including all the duped
      military used as cannon fodder for the bankster gangster war profits,
      making your claims invalid. This includes, of coz, the victims of the
      Brooklyn Bolsheviks sent to Russia by the jew banksters, with the
      complicity of the US government and the financing by Wall Street
      Khazars and the City’s Rothschilds.

      But if by ‘freedom’ you mean having a puppet on the strings of the
      Pentagon-White House, the IMF and the World Bank, all jew enterprises
      (so somebody doesn’t say am pointing at ‘zionists’ only), you should
      ask the German people if they are free.

      Or the Aussies if they are oppressed and disarmed by pro-zion goblins.

      Or what price ‘liberty’ by Henry Kissinger, to the Vietnamese.

      Or how free the Kingdom’s subjects are by the intervention of US military in Hawaii.

      Or at what cost Old F*rt Bush imposed Pinochet in Chile.

      Or Nicaragua suffered with the Reagan-Bush Contras.

      Or how Mexicans bleed today with Dubya’s and ChoicePoint implanted Calderon.

      Or how torn and chaotic former Bush’s comrade territory of Iraq is today.

      And how bloody was/is the US invasion to liberate mooselimbs from tyranical Taliban in Afghanistan.

      Or how happy are Pakis with the US bombing their bros and friends in order to protect them from El-Al-CIA-duh renegades.

      And the Serbs, the Somali, the Lebanese, the Palestinians, the Egyptians, with US liberating napalm, cluster bombs, drones, phosphor skin warmers and depilators, ad nauseam.

      And Panamenians, Grenadans, Haitians, Cubans, Venezuelans, Puerto Ricans, Bolivians, Argentinians, about American liberating qualities of their death squads or torture experts, all trained at the School of the Americas (sounds romantic!).

      My memory fails me, but that is a good roundup of the best or quasi best killing machin… er, liberation and democratization army in the world. ‘judeo’ also, because ZOG has been in control since 1913, and they reap most of the spoils of liberation wars.

      They actually liberate resources too. Oil, gas, gold, uranium, and cannon fodder, these last, from carnal bondage.

      Google:

      War is a Racket
      A Century of US Military Interventions
      A Century of War
      The Lie of the century – False Flags and Wars
      War Made Easy 1, 2, 3, 4.
      Bagdad Attack 2007

      • Tazio2013

        debalazo,

        Congratulations for your excellent summary; I will copy and save for future reference. It must be noted that none of the usual white wing wacko, crusading christian zionist PLD responders responded. It appears that they were blinded by facts, truth and objective reality. Looking forward to reading your future postings.

      • Jana

        debal,
        I believe war is a racket, so where does that put the Muslims in their wars. All they have ever done is fight. What ‘Racket’ are they aiming for? World take over?

        • bob wire

          Jana , the Jews and Arabs has been being play dirty ticks and been mean to each other for centuries.

          I forget their names, but there once was a troop of Jews living outside the city. One of the young Jewish men fell in love with a pretty Arab maiden of the ruling family inside the city.

          This brought about great tension and consternation and even more so when a wedding proved a necessity. But it was decreed that there would be no wedding unless all the men in the city accepted circumcision to purify themselves as to Jewish law.

          It was on third day after this community circumcision when the soreness was at it peak and the men in the city could only hobble about that the Jewish leader and his men lay siege to the city and took whatever they wanted, women included.

          Now whether this story it true or not, I really don’t know. But it does offer us a flavor for the way things once were and why they are what they are today. And perhaps accounts for goat boy’s penis obsession even to this day.

          Daniel,Abraham,Moses,Samuel,Saul the list is long,~ these are all leaders of waring Jewish nations, military men that the bible offers in a kinder gentler light to for us to read, ~ but it’s all there ~ in your bible for you to dig out and understand.

          It was hard times in a hard land and it took hard people to endure and survive.

          The bible tends to offer a particular viewpoint, much like Fox or MSNCB. This accounts for the need of the many authors often covering the same events we see so often in scripture. There was some attempt made to offer balance but Jew and Hebrew slant still dominates.

          I wish I knew and understood more. The bible combined other recorded history text makes for a lifetime of reading pleasure.

          • Jana

            bob,
            There was indeed a story similar to what you are eluding to, but it did not happen as you say.
            This girl had become friends with the sister of this man who was the kings son, from the city. She was going to visit his sisters and he saw her in the field and raped her. He told his dad to get her for a wife for him.
            Her brothers were outraged. When the King came to ask for her hand in marriage, they replied that she could not marry an uncircumcised man. In fact all of the men in the Kings house needed to be circumcised. They agreed to it.
            While the men were recuperating from this circumcision, and were very weak, the brothers went in and killed them.
            If you know the scriptures in the Old Testament you will find that God often had His people go in and destroy a nation men, women, children, even down to their animals (You know the Bible story where Joshua marched around the city of Jericho many times and the last time had all of his people blow their trumpets and shout and the walls came tumbling down.) because they served a false god. Plus they had intermixed with fallen angels and produced giants. God wanted to keep the blood line clean for Christ to be born. Satan was trying to destroy that bloodline.
            You said the Bible tends to offer a particular view point. You bet it does, it offers God’s viewpoint.

            If you also read in the scriptures God says “My name is Jealous. I am a Jealous God. He does not want us worshiping false gods. He wants us to worship and love HIM and not be ashamed of HIM.

  • Lewis Munn

    Misguided…how long will it take to use up all the oil in the Mideast? How long will it take the US to fall at the present rate of currency inflation? Which will come first?

    Suggest reading German History just a bit pre-Hitler, as a guideline.

    • 45caliber

      How long will it take to use up all the oil in the Mid-East? Not that long. I understand that the MOST any country there has is 15% of what they started with. Most have less. That’s why the Arab leaders are so busy trying to invest elsewhere. They know that their piggy bank is drying up.

  • debalazo

    WOW! Such prophets of doom!

    And yet, the ‘radicals’ and ‘revolutonaries’ are no one else but the people of Egypt! Fed up with a dictator imposed on them by both USA and israel!

    Is there any other terrorist nation in the world? Ah-yes, England, or should I say, the Rothschild empire within the empire. And unless the Roths are behind the people of Egypt, yeah-sure, then USA-israel have nothing to fear.

    But if the people of Egypt succeed, and who hate israel and all its crimes against humanity, its world terrorism, and its sucking money from US tax-robbed payers to finance its constant wars and subversion around the globe, especially in the ME, then the Egyptians with their Arab brothers will help clean up the ME for good.

    No infection can last a hundred years. Only if the people cower and procrastinate, can the would-be rulers of the world attain their unholy agenda.

    • Peter Waldo

      You should call yourself de-balled aho..

      • bob wire

        ha ha ha ! I like it! It’s got a nice “ring” to it!

        • debalazo

          “bob wired says:
          ha ha ha ! I like it! It’s got a nice “ring” to it!”

          bobby, as long as it doesn’t ‘ring’ inside your mouth, you can keep on laughing all nite. I mean, after de-balling Mr aho. Yuk!

          • bob wire

            Okay Goat boy, I suppose that has some meaning you can’t seem to get out?

      • debalazo

        (offensive comment removed)

        • bob wire

          Okay Goat boy. We get the picture, ~ you’ve got penis issues ~ I’m beginning believe it’s a parental influence thing or maybe it’s just something in the sand.

  • debalazo

    eddie,

    None of my biz interfering with other’s conversations, but, have you heard of one such Thomas Jefferson? He proclaimed openly that every 20 years there should be a revolt (revolution?) to oust the tyrants in Washington, as power corrupts, and unlimited (liberal) power corrupts liberally… or something.

    And who would accomplish such task? None other than the People’s Militia! The only one authorized by the Constitution to bear arms! That Militia rubbing their long rifles and reading the Bible for inspiration (to cast the Beast from Babylon into Abyss a for a thousand years?)

    It pays to read American history, keep guns oiled, locked and loaded, and read the Christian Bible to stay in focus.

    • Karolyn

      Yes, read he words of Jesus and act the opposite!

      • debalazo

        Oh-Karolyn,

        you sweet thing, do you only read the nice thingies in the Christian Bible? Isus (‘J’ was not invented until the 16th century AC, and so was the ‘jew’ word) was noble, but firm in the face of evil. How about ‘turning plowshares into swords’…? To shave in the morning? Don’t think so!

        • Michael J.

          deballasso,
          You must be new here, karolyn goes by the 12 steps in the Big Book.

          • bob wire

            right! and Karolyn knows there are many things offered to pick and choose on the “plate of life”. That she chooses only the “good” and rejects the “bad” is a deliberate effort and not the grazing of a goat that will eat anything that stands still long enough.

          • Michael J.

            Bob Wire,
            Nah ah ah ah ah, goats are vegetarians, all their food stays still ya goof!

          • bob wire

            I was thinking more along the lines of windshield wiper blades, garden hose,trees,roses, spent shotgun shells,vinyl house trim, etc.

          • Michael J.

            Bob Wire says,
            “I was thinking more along the lines of windshield wiper blades, garden hose,trees,roses, spent shotgun shells,vinyl house trim, etc.”

            OK, I give, what the hell has any of that stuff got to do with the price of Vodka?

            Sounds like the debri field formed by a dumpster explosion.

            Is it happy hour already Bob, cause ya sound a bit wired?

            Doin my best to humor you Bob, but you sure don’t make it easy.

          • bob wire

            Well Michael, I enjoy hearing you blow your horn too!

            I can tell, your are pulling your punches,

            don’t for my sake, I can handle it.

            I enjoy brisk, edgy word play and have worn some real shiners before.

            ain’t scared.

    • Peter Waldo

      Jefferson read the Revelation of Jesus Christ (book of Revelation in the Bible) once. Decades later he said he hadn’t read it since that one time and that he still considered it the rantings of a mad man (schizo in today’s terms). That should give you an idea of the anti-Biblical world view of Jefferson. Just look into the lying slander that he used and/or paid for against John Adams in order to get himself the presidency. Jefferson also wrote his own version of the Bible. I’d be careful quoting Jefferson if you have a Biblical world view.

      • Karolyn

        Jefferson believed in the teachings of the Bible as a plan for living a good life but not in the concept of Jesus Christ being the saviour and son of God. I read that he cut out all references to that in his Bible.

        • debalazo

          Karolyn,
          The problem was the Church appropriated JC as their ‘God’ to control the masses, being them ‘the intermediaries between God and man’, and of course not even JC assumed that role. Read the ‘gospel according to Thomas’, the Twin, Dydumos Judas Tomas, the twin of ‘Jesus’ (Isus), and you will read the enlightened man speaking to his disciples, teaching them the Law, that’s all. Jefferson must have known this concept through the Rosicrucians and repudiated the interpretation of the Church, not JC himself.

      • bob wire

        I didn’t know that about Jefferson but I feel much the same way about revelations, it’s screwed up far more people then it’s ever helped.

        Anyone would have to be in the same “timezone” to begin to make sense of it and that “timezone” is no place to ever find ones self.

        Personal Preference of course, I wouldn’t look down on anyone that wanted to try. But after 3 months and they start talking strange, it’s time to detox and get some space from it.

      • debalazo

        “Peter Waldo says:
        Jefferson read the Revelation of Jesus Christ… Decades later he said… the rantings of a mad man (schizo in today’s terms)”

        [you are putting words in Jeff's mouth. On the other hand, what did Jeff understand at that moment in time about 'revelation' or attunement with Transcendancy? Allegory? Symbology? The planes of higher consciousness? Evolution of the Psyche? Jeff was a revolutionary patriot, not an Avatar! Give him a break for misunderstanding Scripture.]

        “…anti-Biblical world view of Jefferson.’

        [again putting words in Jeff's mouth. He disagreed instead with the Roman Church concepts, dogmas and creeds imposed on the sheeple, and since the Romans 'edited' the early texts before the final compilation, who can blame him for his distrust towards it?]

        “…lying slander that he used and/or paid for against John Adams in order to get himself the presidency.”

        [you are assuming. Stick to known facts. Although, wasn't Adams actually the son of a 'jew'? Jeff mistrusted 'jews', and rightfully so. We are at the edge of Abyss, where they should be instead. You know, the Prophecy...]

        “..Jefferson also wrote his own version of the Bible. I’d be careful quoting Jefferson if you have a Biblical world view.

        [Jeff was a Deist, not a Catholic, Protestant, etc. and despised the Church just as he despised the subversive 'jew' banksters-corporatists. His letters to Washington spell it so. But 'wrote his own Bible' is going too far. Even if only the Christian Text. Besides, my quote of Jeff was not biblical, but revolutionary against a most probable corrupted federal government, as it has been all along, up til O-Baah-maa got plucked into the WH, precisely by the jews, not the muselims.]

  • Raggs

    Does this pit one against the other not only in Egypt but on a global scale?… You bet your ass it will!

  • Raggs

    A solution ,but one that is off topic.

    Progressives want a competency / mental examination prior to any citizen wishing to purchase a gun… Well I say the same thing should be applied to voters…

  • chuckb

    we can expect barry to make this his routine in washington before long.

    http://downloads.cbn.com/cbnnewsplayer/cbnplayer.swf?aid=17933

  • Janice Fortin

    Do you really think this administration, with such expressed admiration for Islamic Muslims, was “caught off guard”? Carter might have been just stupid, but this administration is sinister. If they wanted to make sure Egypt did not fall to the muslims, they’d find a way, but instead CLAIM TO BELIEVE MUSLIMS, KNOWING FULL WELL ISLAMIC MUSLIM AGENDA DOES NOT PROHIBIT LYING. In fact, it is their expertise.

    • Karolyn

      You people are just so totally off the wall. I keep thinking I’ll get used to it, but every time I see a post like this, I just shake my head in disbelief!

      • bob wire

        It’s funny , that just 20 hours ago the right winger was singing a different song.

        It’s taken them a while to make something up! ~ and even now they are not all others.

        Tomorrow will bring with it even more anti-obama sentiments for what he has done and what he didn’t. You and count on it.

        It just takes them a little time on the harder ones.

        • Michael J.

          Bob wire,
          Could be that your right, after enduring eight years of lambasting, false accusations, conspiracy theories, unfettered fabrications and out right lies spewed forth like projectile vommit from MSM at the same pace as the last lap in a Nascar race. And then you wonder why is poor Mr. Obama getting all this? The Biblical answer would be “Ye shall reap what ye sew” But the modern day equivelent is more like “Paybacks are a M—– F—–!”

          The truth of the matter lies somewhere in between with the eight year media philibuster against the former administration being 80% false while the critisism against Obama is 80% true. Obama makes it easy with his Communist and Muslim affiliations, his eligibility issues, his disdain for anything American and his persistent anti- American policy making, nothing need be conjured or fabricated, merely report the facts.

          • bob wire

            Michael, It wasn’t eight year ~ “W” was courted the better part of his first term and enjoyed a kind media and a rubber stamp congress.

            Not to say “W” went without opposition but not of the furber, canker and intensity we find today.

            True , his last 3 years were rocky, ~ but by all accounts considered, there should have been more.

      • Michael J.

        Karolyn,
        When you shake your head, do you hear a rattle?

    • American Patriot

      W,e here in America have a game show called wheel of fortune. But, In the Muslim world. they have a game show called, Spin the camel tail. Then they let depravity and gravity take over. The end result? Tail always points toward hell.

  • chuckb

    janice f

    this administration is caught off guard in almost everything they do.
    barry is endeared to the muslims, he was a muslim at one time and i do believe he still carries a card and has s rug in his closet. you have to be ignorant, stupid or naive to believe in such a cultish religion.
    it’s no wonder they hide barry’s school records of course if you check out his political record while a state senator and u.s. senator it gives you an indication the guy is not too bright. i feel he will end up in assisting the muslims to take over egypt by his non-action, we have supplied egyt with abrams tanks and f15 fighters so that’s a plus for the rag heads. this equipment is probably dumbed down so the camel herders can operate them.
    barry will probably celebrate with the brotherhood acknowledging their success in bringing democracy to egypt when the dust settles.
    remember carter and ramsey clark felt the same way toward khomeini when he took over iran. it runs in the progressives blood.

    • American Patriot

      Chuckb telling it, like it is.

    • Michael J.

      chuckb,
      True enough, but without spare parts, all that hardware has a life expectancy of about 6 months in the desert sand before it turns to scrap metal.

  • Peter Waldo

    The Obomber administration was NOT caught off guard. They’ve been working behind the scenes to facilitate this the last 2 years. His campaign officials helped train Egyptian community activists to use personal media (facebook, twitter, etc.) The unions and the usual suspects in the left have coordinated and/or helped in many ways.

    • Karolyn

      Another psychic!

  • chuckb

    peter waldo

    barry probably has acorn and the seiu working in cairo, they did a great job for him in 2008, egypt has a lot of people with the same mentality to work with.

  • http://com i41

    Since Barry is a muslim and El BARA Luba Bluba is another certified goat abuser from the UN heiarcharcy. They both like clos male roommates and have no compulision of killing perverts who know of their sick behavior. only safe place for them is to destroy USA and other civilized nations and all become radical muslims dictator run nations. Soros Socialists are definitely psychics on drugs who cann’t find their way out of their exhaust vents with their pointy skull caps.

    • bob wire

      There is no bottom in the depth of you depravity i41.

      When I think you can’t speak any lower, you out do yourself.

      You never cease to amaze.

      Some of it , I’ve developed a fondness for.

      Goat abuser, ~ that’s just too rich.

      • Karolyn

        He is, at times, amusing, no”? Some time ago I posted that i41 might just be a scholar putting everyone on by his language. This was when I first encountered his posts. I have since come to the conclusion that he is, unfortunately, who he portrays himself to be.

  • rick

    islam bought barry soeteros life, long ago. they bought him the presidency. no experience required. his own words from his books, from interviews, youtube videos, whatever, his job is clear. he stands with islam. and EVERY communist politician, every supreme court justice and every joint chief is complicite in this crime against their country. only question left, was everyone bought with gold or some country’s currency, or promised a bunker, for when the real shiite hits the fan? we’ll all find out at the end of 2012.

    • bob wire

      You are entitled to be wrong, everyone is.

      But bearing false witness comes under the heading of “Naughty”

      Crimes against the spirit.

      I don’t believe jail times is offered , but dress light!

    • debalazo

      rickets, chuckeebee, i4Wan, Peter Waffle, Janice Tortas, etc,

      stop trying to paint Obongo as a moose limb! his commie momma IS a jew! Still living and working at the Ford Motor Co in NY. Her Social Sec number still active. Her parents were also jews, 60′s commies, wanted by congress to investigate them for subversion.

      So, moose limbs are NOT commies, but jews are, they wrote the book on it. Therefore, Obongo is a crypto jew, handled by jews, installed by jews, and only jews can rip off Trillions at the jew FED with the footprint of Obongo as collateral. Hmmmm… Are you all on Megaphone, by any chance of Talmudic coincidence??

  • chuckb

    rick

    i think you have made a good point.

  • Eric Bischoff

    Once again the mean, illiterate, ignorant crowd, writers included, that spends way too much time in this site professes to know what the reality is when they don’t have a clue. Most comments are sadly laughable ridiculous, ludicrous, absurd, risible, preposterous; foolish, silly, idiotic, stupid, asinine, nonsensical, crazy, insane, outrageous, harebrained, cockamamie; informal cockeyed, daffy.

    I realize that some can’t deal with a black muslim being our current president and that explains their assinine birther sentiments. That helps them deal with this fact. That keeps them from foaming at the mouth and keeps their convulsion in check. Mind you these same people usually also have no respect for any minorities or women for that matter.

    You know nothing of what our government is doing or not doing behind the scenes yet a lot of you you profess to know.

    One thing is for sure, Western so called democratic countries have blood on their hands for screwing up this area of the world for too many decades now. They have created and forced the most divisive artificial borders on this geography. They have, and continue to, meddle in the political affairs, foment coups and assassinations and support the most despicable brutal repressive corrupt dictator regimes.

    Mouth breathing, knuckle dragging pundits on Fox can’t get past the fact that people can have a peaceful revolution to ask for freedom of assembly, freedom of speech, democratic elections and JOBS. So they crank up their disinformation machine to get all of you to believe that the Muslim Brotherhood is going to take over and Egypt will go to hell and Israel will disapear. Never mind the fact that the brotherhood is just a small portion of Egypt, their focus has been on charity for the poor which makes them very busy and they had nothing to do with starting this revolution.

    Sean Hannity, a sad little man who pretends to be so tough always with his football pacifier in hand, is obviously afraid of everything and incaple of love and compassion. We should be ashamed of ourselves for allowing despicable human beings like that to speak for us in prime time.

    Egypt is the second argest recipient of our tax dollars, second to the already obscene amounts that we give to Israel. All foreign aid must be spent on the military industrial complex. So what do we do? If we cut it then the usual war profiteers, GE, Boeing, Raytheon, Lockeed Martin will lose Billions in business and a lot more Americans will be out of work unless of course we start another war somewhere.

    We’ve created a monster and we don’t know how to stop it. If our government doesn’t stand with the people we are doomed.

    A poor muslim setting himself on fire was the spark that started the revolution first in Tunisia, the fuel is massive inequality and oppression. This is just the beginning.

    I pray that all oppressive governments, dictators, kings and princes fall in this area. It is time.

    • JeffH

      Eric the Red, so nice to see that you have elevated yourself to be above all of the “laughable ridiculous, ludicrous, absurd, risible, preposterous; foolish, silly, idiotic, stupid, asinine, nonsensical, crazy, insane, outrageous, harebrained, cockamamie; informal cockeyed, daff comments, although I find yours to be right in line with those you laughable ridiculous, ludicrous, absurd, risible, preposterous; foolish, silly, idiotic, stupid, asinine, nonsensical, crazy, insane, outrageous, harebrained, cockamamie; informal cockeyed, daffy” although you’ve readily join the ranks of those you abhor.
      You said: ” that some can’t deal with a black muslim being our current president and that explains their assinine birther sentiments”.
      Your racism is showing through Eric, and I fail to see the connect between the “black muslim” and the “birther” issue. If I understand correctly, a big majority in the Obama camp say that Obama’s NOT a muslim and he most cetainly is no more black than he is white, but again the Obama campsters still like to play the worn out deck of race cards much to there detriment. The “birther” issue just doesn’t fit into your “black muslim” theory.

      Eric, admit it ,you are a racist! And a very hatefull one at that.
      You Marxist/communist/liberal/progressives seem to have an inbred hate gene in your pool.

      Are you an American and,if you are,have you ever considered revoking your citizenship?

      • JeffH

        Ohhh, that’s right, you’re not one of “those” progressives, you’re the good kind. NOT!

      • libertytrain

        JeffH – at least he admits what we all more than suspect. He is Muslim.

        • JeffH

          You betcha! Let’s see if the board libs attack him for that “lie”?lol

      • bob wire

        “I fail to see the connect between the “black muslim” and the “birther” issue. ”

        Well it”s good that you don’t!

        It’s a stretch, but I do. But it’s very fuzzy !

        and can’t be spoken.

        • JeffH

          Why is that not a surprise???

  • Eric Bischoff

    “You can’t depend on your judgment when your imagination is out of focus.”

    ~Mark Twain

    • bob wire

      Love Sammuel Clemments

      ” A man judges a good cigar by a bad one”

      ” There are lies,damnable lies and then there are statistics.”

  • Eric Bischoff

    Here’s an interesting one.

    Top CIA Spy Takes Over Deadly Egyptian Protests

    http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1444.htm

    • Tazio2013

      Eric,

      Outstanding postings and enjoyed reviewing “whatdoesitmean.com”. Agree that Hannity is a sad, despicable misinfotainer, but have you heard Glenn Beck lately? He makes Hannity seem almost normal.
      I’m certain you’ll agree; the next few years will see some big changes in the global geo-political, socio-economic, psycho-cultural, religio-spiritual and, most importantly, fiat-financial system. If you have not already done so, suggest that you subscribe to The Daily Bell as they seem to me to be on your “onepercenter” wavelength.

    • bob wire

      Eric, we seem to be experiencing a lot of disinformation “allegedly” coming out from “Russian sources” these days.

      It’s a trend as the demand for information good or bad becomes easy to market.

  • bob wire

    Hmm, sometime early morning ~ some media labeled it as an all out civil war.

    There was several shooting. I think that it’s premature to label it as such.

    But things are becoming much more violent.

    I still think it’s Egypt’s business and it for them alone to deal with.

    If we some much as touch it, some interest will attempt to sell the whole ball of wax to the US. We don’t need that.

    While it might be foolish to hope for, ~ but could a nation of Islam be attempting to come into the 21st century by their own hand?

  • chuckb

    eric bischoff

    shove it!!

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    I would like to know what kind of goverment we will have if Obama
    has his way? I lean toward a Taliban type.

    • bob wire

      It very difficult to see such a statement as that more of a child that knows only when mother gets home and what’s in the frig.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Eric,
    You can`t stand the truth, now can you? Here is some other left wing
    stupidy you might like to check out. Move on.org >> Organizing for America >> The Huffington Post >>Francis Fox Piven >> I think you will enjoy these more than the Daily Bell. You seam to like stupid things.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Go ChuckB

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    JeffH,
    Boy, You sure have our mutual friend Eric figured out.

    I could`t have said it better. Where did you find all those
    names to describe him. I give you 100%. Keep after these
    left wing kooks for they know not what they do.

    • JeffH

      Charles, if you read Eric’s rant you’d know I “stole” them from him. All to often they are what they accuse.

  • chuckb

    charles

    i disagree these left wing kooks know exactly what they say, years of marxist education in the public schools has impaired their ability to think for themselves, they are a recording of the teaching system.

    • bob wire

      but how was chucky immune and remain unaffected by such an awful experience as public education?

      Home schooled, Kriptonite, from another planet, slept thu it, raise by wolves ?

  • http://gunner689 gunner689

    What else would you expect from BO ? He’s one of them.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    chuckb,
    You are probley right,no you are right.The left knows exactly
    what they are doing.It`s time we not only take our country back,
    we also need to take our schools back. It`s long over due.
    The left have had control of our schools a lot longer than they
    have our country. America, rise up and throw these bums out.They have messed with us to long.Pay attention who you vote for on these so
    called school boards.Make these people let you know what they stand for.Parents get involved with the schools. There are many ways to do this.Find the ways and do it.

  • jopa

    Charles wants to have a Taliban type government, well that is not going to happen here in the United States of America when we have a great leader such as President Obama.The Democrats are the true majority in our country and our high values and standards will always prevail over tyrannical attitudes of the opposition.USA the greatest country in the world and we even have the Green Bay Packers. GO PACK GO.It just don’t get no better.

  • dr reality check

    The article doesn’t suggest much knowledge about history. What does Obama have to do with it? The article would have us make the same fatal mistake we made with Iran; support a dictatorship and then, when the inevitable revolution occurs, we get much of the blame and an Islamic dictatorship results. If this happens, it will be partly because of our support of Mubarak, not our lack thereof. The US never learns from history and makes the same mistakes over and over again. We lost Vietnam, then made the exact same fatal mistakes in Afghanistan and Iraq.

  • JCB

    Honestly, I`ve nearly lost hope in the government of the USA.
    It seems to me that we`ve lost our way. Complacincy has taken over the majority. Our leaders have forgotten the meaning of enimies.
    We are o intangled with politics and being politically correctit1s sickning.
    I had a teacher in the 50`s that told us we were going to be destroyed by ourselves by loosing site of the price to be paid for true freedom. There must be a standard that account`s for principles. The only action that now is followed is let anybody and everybody pretty much do as thay please. Then spent a fortune to defend their right to do so. Thus, lost nation glue that binds us together. When are we going to learn and realize that not everyone cares about the big rightious picture. Our prisons are overflowing with people that are just not going to conform to a standard of living set up by our founding father`s. And the sad thing is we treat the rest of the world the same way. There will always be bullies on the play groung and in our world. We have become so dumbed down that we cann`t tell the difference.
    Watch out for the Muslims, they are serious to please their Allah.
    At even the cost of blowing up their children. Why doesn`t that
    offend every person with common sense. It`s just basically unhuman.
    BUT, we defend this depraved lost souls while they steadly work
    to achieve their cause. Live by the sword, to achieve an unrightious
    control of any society is suicide. Don`t you understand history,
    these people have been cutting off heads for centuries. People like
    President BO, and Sec. Clinton and all the rest or just wrong.
    We`ve had it. Our leader in the world, cann`t even prove where he was born and sides in prayer with the faith of enimies who are dedicated to killing America. Then we have a Sec. of State, who said
    or tried to actlike she did not know her president husband was sticking his private parts into anything that would recieve it and then on world wide TV, blames it on politics. That`s only the surface of the iceburg called ” I don`t care, as long as it`s not happening in my house then let freedom play on, what ever the subjector cost”.
    So my high school teacher was right. Most of American`s can not tell the difference. As it goes we are doomed. It`s just that simple. May you, who`s ever reading this please wake-up, wise-up and stand-up, and act. I forfather`s gave everything, to give us what we had, if we could keep it, DAH !. Than the self-centered enemies of
    true freedom and democracy began to work to kill it..
    We have been asleep and they are alive and well. So it be.
    It`s just about to late to reverse, that`s why I`ve almost given
    up hope for the rightious living and leading od America.Only GOD
    can help us now, may He care for our grand-children.
    SADLY, Just another dumb American

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Jopa,
    Thats the trouble with you left wing – loons you don`t know how to read or understand English. I did not say I wanted a Taliban type
    of goverment. You better have some one that understands English read
    it to you.This is how you people work,through lies and deceit.

  • jopa

    I read your post again and it said in plain Engish that you lean toward a Taliban type government.Shame on you.But I guess you are entitled to have your own opinion.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    jopa,
    if you read it again ,you will see that I meant if Obama has his way,
    we will have a Taliban type of goverment.No way, did I say I wanted
    a Taliban type of goverment. I`m sorry, that you miss understood me, maybe, I should have worded it a different way.

  • jopa

    Apparently I did read it wrong and I guess readings and beauty are in the eye of the beholder.No apology necessary thank you.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Jopa,
    Thank you!!!!

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Dow with AOL

  • SiliconDoc

    Let’s face it the libtard in office is just as stupid as Carter, but with an evil twist. Not only has flappy disaster yappered publicly that under his plan electricity costs would neccesaarily skyrocket, coal companies would shut down, but he has the libtard hatred for oil – so far as the demonic baby murdering democrats are concerned, if the Suez Canal clamps shut like dummy closed the spicket in the Gulf, and a gallon of gas goes to $5, the libtards can add on a $2.50 per gallon al gore tax, then “bring in the new green economy” as the USA crumbles, the dollar crashes, and all hell breaks loose, the libtard revolution “unfolding” the “end of capitalism” and the “ushering in of the lib new world order” of by the government, for the government, and of the government, FOREVER. The lib utopian marxist commie athiest dream world they’ve all been working for since they stripped, humped, and banged their heads in the 60′s.
    They will win, they will take it down, and they can hardly wait for their glorious “revolution”.
    The sad part will be when it finally dawns on them what a terrible epic disaster they created, and by that time, of course, it will be much too late.

  • http://google mike b.

    The mooslem brotherhood is ready to take over the world, led by King Thug Hussein Obama. Take off your shoes, kneel, and put your burkas on your head. This is what you idiots voted for when you voted for this THUG!!!! New America, Hope and Change led by King Hussein Obama. Hussein for re-election, wow, we cant wait. America is now a mooslem nation. Good job americans. Hope and Change. Get your kooorunns ready and be sure to memorize. Islamic official language of US within 10 days after Hussein Obama is re-elected by his fellow mooslem americans.

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