Is Obama The World’s Biggest Birther?

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Hello, I’m Wayne Allyn Root for Personal Liberty. Many Americans suspect Barack Obama was foreign-born. They have every right to ask the questions about the most powerful and mysterious man in the world, but I believe they have the story wrong. They are on the wrong path to unsealing the mystery of Obama’s background.

But the Obama defenders are equally wrong. They rudely label Obama’s critics as “birthers.” Interestingly, the person most responsible for spreading this birth rumor is Obama himself. So in reality, Obama is the world’s biggest “birther.” I was Obama’s classmate at Columbia University. And, boy, do I have a story to tell you.

I believe Obama is a fraud. But it has nothing to do with his birth. Obama’s critics have it all backward. They are looking in the wrong place. He isn’t a foreigner portraying himself as an American. He’s an American who fraudulently portrayed himself as a foreigner. So because of his own fraudulent actions, Obama is actually the one to blame for starting all of this conspiracy talk.

Months ago, MSNBC television host Rachel Maddow spent 15 minutes on her national show calling me a “birther.” I scratched my head, because I’m not — never have been, not for one minute. A “birther” believes Obama is a foreigner, not legally qualified to be President. I have never believed that.

I’ve always believed that Obama is 100 percent American. There, I’ve said it loudly. I’m a leading critic of the President, but I’ve always believed him to be American-born. He is as American as P.T. Barnum. And he lies and exaggerates like Barnum, too. While Obama is no foreigner, he is a fraud. Let me tell you the real Obama story.

In hundreds of media interviews, I’ve stated that even though Obama was my college classmate at Columbia University, class of 1983, and we shared the same majors (political science and pre-law), I never saw, met or heard of him. But the media has this story wrong, too. I’ve never said that my conclusion is Obama did not go to Columbia. On the contrary, I believe Obama graduated Columbia and we are classmates.

Where was he hiding for those Columbia years? My educated guess is he was smoking pot and attending communist meetings, plotting the downfall of America and capitalism. Don’t laugh; it worked.

While that was just an educated guess, Obama’s own autobiography backs me up. He personally admitted often attending Socialist Party meetings at Cooper Union in downtown Manhattan. With Obama, even your wildest guesses are often proven true.

But forget why he wasn’t seen at Columbia; the real mystery is how he ever got into Columbia. Stay with me, because this ties into the whole “foreign-born” story.

I’ve believe I’ve pieced together what happened at Columbia and here it is. I believe that Obama, an American citizen, committed fraud by portraying himself as a foreigner in order to gain almost impossible admittance to prestigious Columbia University (and probably Occidental and Harvard Law School as well). He lied and used fraud, misrepresentation, to weasel his way in.

Is that really a crime? Ask convicted criminal Frank Abagnale, the real-life star of the hit movie and best-selling book Catch Me If You Can. Portraying someone you’re not is called fraud and is punishable by years in prison.

It doesn’t take a psychology degree to figure out Obama’s fragile mindset as a young man. He spent his youth living a fantasy, wanting desperately to be foreign-born and exotic, instead of just a normal American kid from a struggling single-parent household. As a black teen with no dad, Obama undoubtedly faced racism and tough times. With help from mentors like Frank Marshall Davis, a communist, and Bill Ayers, a terrorist, he learned to despise his country of birth (America). As a dreamer and loner, he started to believe his own story of exotic birth, then he used that fantasy (aka fraud) to gain admittance to both Occidental and Columbia.

In too deep, he had no way out. Ironically, that makes Obama himself the “birther.” He’s the one who created the foreign-born storyline. By calling himself a foreigner, he became the birther.

The fact the leftist media (Maddow, Jon Stewart, Mother Jones and others) are so frightened of me confirms that I’m close to the truth. It explains why Obama sent the Internal Revenue Service to viciously attack me not once, but twice. (I won 100 percent victories in both audits.) I’ve gotten too close to both the Obama Columbia scandal and the Obama IRS scandal. The closer to the target, the greater the flack.

So let me explain why Obama needed to concoct a fraudulent story to get into Columbia. Getting into an Ivy League University is extremely difficult and transferring in is virtually impossible. Every year, 30,000 kids try to get into a college like Columbia. Only a small fraction are accepted (there were about 700 in our class of 1983). The battle is cutthroat. Virtually all 30,000 are straight-A students, have close-to-perfect SAT scores, and have achieved outsized success at extracurricular activities, too.

Into that dog-eat-dog competition stepped Obama, a young man with no achievements, except an exotic story of Indonesian upbringing. Obama could never have gotten into Columbia out of high school, and his odds of transferring in later were even worse. Last year, Columbia accepted only three transfer students in the entire world. Three. And I guarantee you all three had amazing scholastic and achievement records from other Ivy League colleges like Harvard, Yale or Princeton.

Obama had none of that. By his own admission, he was a poor student who smoked pot, rarely attended class and got mediocre grades from Occidental (a good, but not great, college). His only chance of transferring into Columbia was a made-up story of being an exotic foreigner.

It’s pretty clear how Obama got into Columbia; I believe it was by lying. Obama was a smart kid, even then gave “great interview,” and talked (lied) his way into Columbia as an Indonesian student, using his Jakarta grade school transcripts (and perhaps passport/citizenship papers) as proof. Columbia probably asked very few questions. They were thrilled to have an Indonesian student to brag about. They got what they wanted: “diversity.”

That was Obama’s edge that gained him admittance to the exclusive Ivy League world at Columbia and then Harvard Law School. But that also made him a fraud, who accepted admittance and foreign student aid under false pretenses.

Since selling this fraudulent story had succeeded beyond his wildest imagination, Obama was emboldened. So he used it again to sell a book. Remember: I’m not guessing here. It’s a fact that his book agent described Obama to publishers as “born in Kenya, raised in Indonesia.” There is physical proof of these exact words. Bleeding-heart-liberal Manhattan book publishers bought it hook, line and sinker.

All of this lying and fraud based on a fantasy built an impressive platform for young Obama. It got him the credentials he needed for a career in politics (Columbia, Harvard Law, professor at Chicago Law School). Next, he used that platform to run for office. He won and then won again, becoming a U.S. Senator. People started touting him as a Presidential candidate. All the lies and Barnum-like self-promotion had worked for Obama, too well. Now, he had a deep, dark secret to cover up.

His college records were his Achilles heel. He had to hide his tracks. His college records had to be sealed forever — not because he was a foreigner and unqualified to be President, but because he was an American posing as a foreigner. That makes him a fraud unqualified to be President. Keep in mind he almost certainly would have accepted foreign aid loans or scholarships. That is a crime.

And this story is important for another reason. It tells us everything about the man in the White House who created and sold a pack of lies called Obamacare. He promised it would lower our health insurance costs. Lie. They are up dramatically and set to skyrocket even more next year. He promised we could keep our present insurance. Lie. Millions of Americans are losing their insurance or, worse, their jobs. He promised our quality of care would not be affected. We’re adding 30 million to 40 million new patients, but no new doctors. The waits for care will be shocking. Another lie.

Polls prove 70 percent of all doctors are thinking of retiring. We’ll all be treated by foreign doctors with shaky English and untrustworthy degrees from the University of Grenada. Quality of care will plummet. So there’s another lie. And Obama said there are no “death panels.” Another lie. Healthcare will have to be rationed. Many Americans will either have the most effective treatments denied because of cost or they will die waiting in long lines for treatment. So there’s a lie that could cost you your life.

It all makes sense that Obamacare is one big lie. The man pitching it is a born liar. He made up fantasy stories, delusions, exaggerations, half-truths, cons and misrepresentations his whole life. He did it with ease — to get into college, to get into law school, to get his first book deal and to win political office. His whole life is about a web of fraud and deceit. We’ve been sold down the river by a con man in the White House.

I would love for Obama to release his college records and prove me wrong. But of course he won’t. He can’t, because at the top of his college admissions transcript would be the two words that would destroy his Presidency and legacy: “foreign student.”

No, I’m not a birther. I believe Obama is 100 percent American-born. While never questioning his birth, I’ve been in the media nonstop for five years questioning his allegiance to America, American exceptionalism and Judeo-Christian values.

And I’ve exposed his plan, created by husband-and-wife professors Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven at Columbia, to destroy capitalism by overwhelming the system with spending, debt and entitlements. That purposeful plan is proven by facts; please see record spending, record debt and record entitlements under Obama. This whole giant scandal wrapped in mystery is really about a plan to destroy America carried out by an American who always despised America, American values and capitalism and who posed as a foreigner.

No, Obama isn’t foreign-born, but I believe he is a fraud. And if so, it’s Obama who is the world’s biggest birther. Isn’t real life stranger than fiction? I’m Wayne Allyn Root for Personal Liberty. See you next week. Right back here. Same time, same place. God bless America and protect us from the fraud in the White House.

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Wayne Allyn Root

Wayne Allyn Root is one of America's leading Libertarian-conservative authors. Wayne's new book is The Murder of the Middle ClassWayne is a Capitalist Evangelist, serial entrepreneur, conservative media commentator, and proud champion of the middle class. He is a former Libertarian vice presidential nominee and Fox News regular. Follow Wayne on Twitter and visit Wayne's web site: www.ROOTforAmerica.com

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  • Richard Brooks

    An interesting position. I’ve wondered though, whether foreigner or fraud, if/when the truth ever comes out; what happens to all the laws and EOs signed by this person?

    • peter

      That is a good question. Probably those laws and EO’s will form part of another circus act which aptly describes the on going antics in Washington. We have to give him credit for having the sense to realize that he is surrounded by clowns and it is easy to be the Ringmaster when surrounded by a bunch of clowns. The American exceptionalism is becoming more and more laughable by the minute. What do we need to do about the embarrassment or are we just like Obama and too arrogant to care? What happened to us? Are we really that gullible or just plain ignorant?

      • To Tell The Truth

        We’ve become a nation of dumbed-down nitwits – products of government indoctrination centers (READ Public Schools) which long ago became more about jobs for teachers and the incompetent and not educating America’s youth. We are all doomed to oblivion by the huge history of racing toward mediocrity and worse

        • BJ

          And the biggest nitwit is WAR.

          • Ringgo1

            Yeah, you’re a BJ ok.

  • WTS/JAY

    What the majority of Americans does NOT know -Obama is a muslim!

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=22b_1380730865#Jd5jEe9HLWDGAh3z.99

    • lara

      MUSLIMS WAY OF LIFE IS TO LIE,I WORKED WITH A MUSLIM AGENCY AND BELIEVE ME THEY WERE THE BIGGEST LIARS I HAVE EVER MET. I QUIT…

    • KG
      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Whatever they’re paying you, KGB, you aren’t worth it.

    • smilee

      And you have no reason to believe this nonsense, if you did you would provide the proof not just say it as your word is worthless.

  • Motov

    The entire government is a lie. Since no one seems to care enough to impeach the moron in the WH.

    • FreedomFighter

      “The entire government is a lie.”
      Take a listen Maybe it will make more sense.
      Laus DeoSemper FI

      • Motov

        Yeah, I realized the puppet handlers have an “or else” policy where they remind politicians of a certain November day,….50 years ago.

  • Jim Read

    Any Patriot with half a brain can see through the smoke screen, Obama is doing exactly as his books describe him.

    • smilee

      Propaganda books and there are a lot of them now!!

  • RobinPC

    Foreign born or not, should be tried for treason and high crimes, and whether American or not, placed in an American prison for the rest of his lying life.

  • Dale Dubois

    Mr. Root, you are right on with your assessment of Obama. I’ve always thought that Obama was born in America as the time lines fit for him being an American and nowhere else. Will Obama ever be impeached for all of his lies and fraud and the answer is no. Why, because the Democrats and Obama lovers will never admit that they had one of the biggest crimes of the world pulled of in front of their eyes.

  • HueyDude

    We all know that Obama is a fraud, and his nose should rival that of Pinocchio, and he should be impeached. Seriously though, Wayjne, you’ve beat this Columbia thing to death. I’ve read at least four stories of Obama not being in class and none of your classmates ever seeing him. Write some new stuff!!!

  • hippybiker

    I believe in my heart that this fraud is a real Socialist/Communist. If the American people let them con us out of our firearms, we will learn what real Bolshevik terror really is.

    • Vigilant

      I would go so far as to say it’s not a matter of belief but a matter of fact.

  • KG

    Whine, whine, Sir-Whines -a-Lot, grasping for straws in a barrel of shaving cream. As the old by-line goes, “What will they think of next???”

    I think it is time for YOU, Mr Root, to ‘prove’ YOUR citizenship by releasing ALL of your tax records since 1983, Only by doing that will anybody be sure that you ARE an American citizen; and not a clothed Automaton.

    • FreedomFighter

      The Black Awakening
      Laus DeoSemper FI

      • KG

        I just love getting links to wacky websites designed in the early 90’s. It is nostalgic to see all of those black backgrounds with the animated GIF’s dancing around. It would seem as though you and your friends fear a ‘government out of control’ using mind-control techniques and such. But what if I were to tell you that Jesus Christ DID NOT say ‘fear the government’ but He did say ‘fear the church/religious nutballs’.

        Mark 13:9
        King James Version (KJV)
        9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.

        http://www.salon.com/2012/10/15/nypd_beat_homeless_man_in_synagogue_outreach_center/

        Matthew 3:7-12
        King James Version (KJV)
        7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees (Religious people) come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
        8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
        9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father (or that we are believers) : for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham (believers).
        10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
        11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
        12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

    • Ried

      So KG, do you have another explanation for why someone has paid big money to seal and hid Obama’s college records? This issue has been simmering since the “empty suit” was handed the Illinois US Senate seat. Why are his records sealed? What is being hidden?

      • KG

        Why won’t Mr Root release all of His records? Why didn’t Dick Cheney give His birth certificate to be vice president? Why was Ronald Reagan never questioned about HIS birth certificate?
        What is being hidden by all these people???

        • Vigilant

          Nothing was hidden; that’s the whole point. There was NEVER any cause to doubt their histories or origins. There is substantial evidence that Obama is hiding something. Reagan and Cheney never spent over a million bucks to keep heir personal records sealed from scrutiny.

          Why don’t you face Ried’s question head on instead of your usual diversionary Alinsky tactic?

          • KG

            Because it’s more fun doing it this way!!!

            Reagan and Cheney never spent a minute thinking about working people either.

            It’s not an Alinsky tactic if it’s true.

          • Deerinwater

            I need to read that book! ~ maybe I can put up a few pointers! I’ve heard so much about it ~ it’s got to be a “must read”.

          • KG
          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Cagey’s Bible.

          • Vigilant

            Along with the Communist Manifesto.

          • Vigilant

            It surely IS an Alinsky tactic if it tries to pass off speculation as immutable truth.

          • KG

            With that charge, you could indite the entire on-air staff of FOX, as well as the bellowing behemoth in Miami.

          • Vigilant

            The proclivities of Fox News persons is not the subject. It is your charge that “Reagan and Cheney never spent a minute thinking about working people.”

            Your head would explode if you were ever forced to stay on subject. You’re not being cute, you’re not engaging in intelligent debate, you’re merely playing the shill’s role as a provocateur.

          • Deerinwater

            Hmm, ~ I was under the impression that sealing of records was a common practice among modern presidents ~ and not actually a personal choice or expense but a burden on the employer. ~ as any information that might compromise the efforts in maintaining security is a serious point of contention.

            For it’s clear, ~ Tax payers spend truck loads of money in the efforts to protect any president. Why then would anyone want to make this effort more demanding and less effective?

            If anyone wanted to know something or anything about a candidate, the time to do so is before they go though the voting process and not after.

            Once fired, we can’t chase bullets down and install them back into the muzzle of the gun. ~ It’s not a reality to consider.

            Here a good story about presidential security and a “no fly zone” to ponder .

            http://stephenvillelights.com/

            http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/MUFON_releases_report_on_UFO_sighting_in_Stephenville,_Texas

          • smilee

            Only in the minds of fools most thought he was not hiding anything so it is no real issue.

        • speedle24

          Had anyone asked for any of that it would have been given. Get the difference Karl?

          • smilee

            You assume!

        • Ried

          I do not know about Mr Root or Mr Cheney. However, it was commonly accepted that Reagan was born and spent much of his childhood in Illinois. As a former actor, his history was pretty well known. Why are you avoiding the question about Obama’s secrecy?

          • KG

            You never did question Reagans legitimacy because he happened to be WHITE?

            I dated a girl in Los Angeles and I wanted to got to Tijuana. She said she couldn’t go. I asked her why? She said ‘I’m an illegal alien from Canada!’ Needless to say, that taught me a lot about immigration in America.

          • Ried

            Why do you avoid my questions?

            I did not question Cheney’s background because I never voted for him.

            Reagan is from a small town background, and could not hide any red herrings, if he had any. I never voted for him either.

            Chicago Tribune is a semi-reputable news source. They did publish information about Obama hiding his background. Look it up! You seem to have time. Why does Obama hide his past collegiate record?

          • KG

            The President is not withholding any records. It is the policy of most legitimate colleges and universities not to release personal information on their students. Would YOU like YOUR college transcripts published in public? Why not let the President have the same decency YOU would expect.

            Anyway, if he were proved to be the product of a blue dog and Satan, I would still want him to be President (as long as hes a Democrat).

          • Ried

            When asked, I have made copies of my transcript available for legit purposes. It was a requirement for professional licensing, as you may know.

            In 2006, an independent author wanted material for a biography on Obama’s life. He was stymied at every turn to obtain relevant material. Seems like the actions of a control freak? Of course every fool is entitled to his own opinion, right Mr KG?

          • Don 2

            …..a blue dog and Satan? Hmmm…..would you then be kin?

          • Don 2

            All it taught you was that she was an illegal. Sounds more like she was dumping you.

      • TML

        I disagree with this rhetoric. It’s the equivalent of saying, “if you aren’t doing anything wrong, what do you have to hide?”, and the idea that records were “sealed”, or that he spent a million dollars doing it, is a simple falsehood; college records remain confidential unless specifically released in accordance with the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act of 1974, which makes it illegal for Columbia University to release records of any student to reporters or members of the general public without specific written permission.

        • Crawford Conover

          IRAN SUX!!!

        • Don 2

          TML,

          You are arguing that Americans have no right to have their presidential candidates vetted; no right to know who he/she is. That is a pathetic position to take.

          • TML

            Of course not, I’m just stating the facts. There is no constitutional requirement on the President for the release of college or other such records, although I would certainly support a law requiring candidates to submit their credentials and records before we ‘hire’ them for the job.

          • Don 2

            If Obama is as smart as the Chris Mathews of the world keep telling us he is, why wouldn’t Obama want to voluntarily release these records, and show us all what a brilliant man he is?

            There were numerous lawsuits filed to unearth Obama’s past records. Floating the idea that attorneys defended these lawsuits w/o great expense is not credible.

          • TML

            “…show us all what a brilliant man he is?”

            I wouldn’t say he is brilliant, but even by his own words he was an average student at best.

            “There were numerous lawsuits filed to unearth Obama’s past records.Floating the idea that attorneys defended these lawsuits w/o great expense is not credible.”

            I’m not sure those lawsuits had to do with his college records, but more to do with his SS# and Birth Certificate. I don’t see how, under the Educational Privacy Act of 1974, that a lawsuit to obtain those records would even be viable, unless, as Mr. Root argues, that a crime has occurred.

          • smilee

            They all lost, 100% of them so what does that tell you??

          • smilee

            Frivolous all of them and all unsuccessful, even though frivolous they have to be defended and all for a bunch of idiots and snoops His brilliance is not in question and if you doubt that he won two elections against all odds the first president to reform health care after 100 years of failure to do that and again against all odds and last night won a major victory over the GOP, I think that record is brilliant and one does not have to want any of that but if your honest you have to ad is admit he overcome all odds and actually did it That is brilliant and it is not changed by your not liking it.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            There also is no Constitutional Power for Obama to Force us to buy Healthcare Insurance. But since when has that stopped him and his Liberal Progressive ilk?

          • TML

            Agreed, but unlike him and his ilk, I intend to stand by the Constitution.

          • smilee

            Then you have to admit Obamacare is Constitutional as it is and was found so!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Because you say so, Sleepee? You can do better than that.

          • smilee

            NO because the court and the Constitution says so!!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Where does the Constitution say so, Sleepee?

          • TML

            I disagree; to my understanding, the court ruled it a tax, which did not originate in the House of Representatives (the house closest to answering to the people) as required. This rule was bypassed via a “shell bill” which is not the proper method for such legislation. Besides that, I believe it to morally wrong to compel a person to purchase a product or service he doesn’t want or need, and fine him if he does not. The simple fact that it passed doesn’t indicate that it was constitutional (Ref. Alien and Sedition Act 1798)

            Which is to say nothing about the legitimacy of government dictating the medical industry under the misguided interpretation of “general welfare” http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/tocs/a1_8_1.html

          • smilee

            Try the opinion itself as what you understand is not what it says and it counts not the propaganda your putting your belief in. It is Constitutional,because it was passed but because the court found it was and that is what made it Constitutional,. The bill was passed by constitutional methods so your statements saying it was not are all false.

          • TML

            But again, it was not necessarily passed by constitutional methods. It passed through a “shell bill” which is not necessarily constitutional to the intent of Article 1 Section 7 Clause 1. And we can see recently the overall dissent of the people, and even the House of Representatives (from which the bill was supposed to originate). The court finding is a debatable opinion; not law.

          • smilee

            IOh but it was,no different than any the way any other bill was passed. What dissent of the people??, They re-elected the president and gave democrats enough power to keep the GOP radicals in their place as they proved again last night! Dream on sucker! It did originator in the house so that is a lie! Not a law?,your a big joke and it is is no longer debatable as the court has said.

          • TML

            It was a shell bill, which means it had no substantive provisions. Those provisions were then added to the bill that first passed the Senate, and was later ruled as a tax, thus did not originate in the House of Representatives. The dissent of the people is obviously those citizens against Obamacare, and the House of Representatives that were reluctant to fund the immoral monstrosity. And no, a court ruling is not actual law, smilee… they are not the legislative branch. And even if I were to accept that it was passed constitutionally, it remains debatable as to it not violating the Bill of Rights, particularly regarding the 10th Amendment and the inflated definition of “general welfare” delegated to the Federal government. I would expect, however, that it will not last long as we begin to see the negative effects even toward those that support the idea of universal health care.

          • smilee

            The truth would set you straight but as long as you cannot recognize it as and. your in denial you will continue to believe the propaganda you express. Not one word of y.our post is true!

          • TML

            Not one word huh? The denial appears to be your own then. I can see you’re as stubbornly zealous as DaveH when anyone dares question Mises. You’re quite a pair.

          • smilee

            I told the truth but I cannot make you see it if you refuse to look at

          • TML

            Ditto

          • KG

            Article One of the United States Constitution, section 8, clause 18:
            The Congress shall have Power – To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

            Article 2, section 3, clause 5

            The President must “take care that the laws be faithfully executed

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Where is the Power vested in Congress to Force people to buy Healthcare Insurance, Cagey?

          • smilee

            Article I, section 8, clause 1, I know you ignore it but it has never been changed or repealed so . to the contrary it still exists.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            And how does that clause give them the Power, Sleepee?

          • smilee

            Read Roberts majority opinion, he explains it very clearly

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I could care less what Robert’s opinion is, Sleepee. It is the opinion of a life-tenured unelected member of the Federal Government, and as such can be expected to be biased in favor of his Gang.
            Here is the Constitution for anybody who cares to investigate:
            http://www.cato.org/pubs/constitution/constitution_en.html

          • KG
          • Vigilant

            Still on that jaunt of “The President must ‘take care that the laws be faithfully executed’ after I gave you a laundry list of how Obama has regularly violated that law?

          • KG

            How many times did Bush or Reagan ‘chose’ what laws he was going to enforce?

            You are still full of it.

          • Vigilant

            Provide some credible examples and we’ll talk about it.. Failing that, you are merely talking through your hat.

          • smilee

            They have a right to vett but no right to snoop into private matters, he was well vetted to the majorities satisfaction so it is irrelevant!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            So you’re against snooping, Sleepee?
            Patriot Act?
            NDAA?
            NSA?

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          That might hold water if Obama wasn’t in the forefront of spying on Americans’ personal lives.
          Supposedly we are his employers, in which case we would have every right to know his background.

          • TML

            I believe there should be an Act passed in Congress that requires all candidates (even those participating in debate for nominations) to submit such information to the public trust, the same as any employer would require such information prior to being hired.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Sure, but why would they subject themselves to that voluntarily? Government isn’t, and never has been, instituted to protect the people. They only posture as such to gain the confidence of ignorant people.
            “To say governments were formed to protect the rights of men would be historically incorrect. Almost all governments were formed by ruthless men exerting their will over others through the use of force. Some governments, over time, evolved toward the rule of law, perhaps only because their rulers saw that this would sanction their own continued enjoyment of the wealth that they possessed. In some instances, this evolution involved one or more “revolutions” in which those who were governed were able to better establish the rule of law”.
            http://mises.org/daily/3427

            Consider this, for example:
            “It [the Constitution] had been drafted, in the first place, by men representing special economic interests. Four-fifths of them were public creditors, one-third were land speculators, and one-fifth represented interests in shipping, manufacturing, and merchandising. Most of them were lawyers. Not one of them represented the interest of production — Vilescit origine tali”.
            http://mises.org/daily/4254/Liberty-vs-the-Constitution-The-Early-Struggle

            Here’s a very good article on the dangers of Central Government and the Articles of Confederation:
            http://mises.org/daily/1296

          • TML

            “Sure, but why would they subject themselves to that voluntarily?”

            Then I guess the only other option would be for the public to require such release of records prior to Presidential elections, and if they refuse, simply don’t vote for them. But I don’t see it a far-fetched idea for Congress to encode such requirement.

            As for the quotes, while the first is factual, our Constitution was explicitly created to restrain government from infringing the natural rights of the people. The founders could have made any government they wanted, and some people even wanted George Washington to be their King.

            I think saying that, in the case of our government, it “evolved toward the rule of law, perhaps only because their rulers saw that this would sanction their own continued enjoyment of the wealth that they possessed.”, is arguable since the capitalist structure itself allows for the same freedom of each individual to keep the fruits of their labor (although that principle has sadly been diminished throughout the years).

            As is the second link stating that not one of them represented the interest of production, I must point out the opposition of the Constitution which led to the Bill of Rights and other protections against those special interests. Furthermore, from the second link, “simply putting the Articles of Confederation in the wastebasket and bringing forth an entirely new document of their own devising.”… I believe is utterly incorrect. The first Convention was called expressly for amending the Federal Constitution titled the Articles of Confederation and authorized by Congress with no limits as to the number of Amendments that could be proposed. The title changed, as legal documents often due after being amended, but was not an entirely new document. Many of the core principles remained the same (Article 2), etc., and most importantly, it was ratified by the many states. “These men” did not ignore the provisions. Even Jefferson spoke in reverence to the Constitution following the adoption and ratification, although there were indeed some things he felt needed added, taken away, or modified, as do I.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            All I see in you comment, TML, is a lot of conjecture and weak logic.

          • TML

            So was your comment and links, Dave. But my last 4 sentences were fact, not conjecture.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            References? You can claim fact all you want, TML, but your words alone are just conjecture.
            I would take the word of Jay Nock over yours any day of the week. Especially after having read “Conceived in Liberty” which relates a more accurate history of the US as opposed to that which the Court Historians have related in order to keep the sheeple content with Federal Government.
            Here’s another side of the story which most Propagandized people haven’t been made aware of:
            http://mises.org/daily/2335

          • TML

            “References? You can claim fact all you want, TML, but your words alone are just conjecture.”

            Do you reject the fact that it was ratified by all the states in order to claim “these men” (the Founders and Drafter of the Constitution) were “simply putting the Articles of Confederation in the wastebasket and bringing forth an entirely new document of their own devising.”? You can take Jay Nocks word over mine – I’m just a guy on the internet – but I can see no historical fact supporting his conjecture on that claim.

            Furthermore, the convention was indeed authorized to first amend the Articles of Confederation regarding commerce between the states, but they realized that other amendments would be needed to make it effective. So the first convention requested authorization for a new convention without limitation on the subject matter of proposed Amendments.

            “Under this impression, Your Commissioners, with the most respectful deference, beg leave to suggest their unanimous conviction, that it may essentially tend to advance the interests of the [U]nion, if the States, by whom they have been respectively delegated, would themselves concur, and use their endeavours to procure the concurrence of the other States, in the appointment of Commissioners, to meet at Philadelphia on the second Monday in May next, to take into consideration the situation of the United States, to devise such further provisions as shall appear to them necessary to render the constitution of the Federal Government adequate to the exigencies of the Union; and to report such an Act for that purpose to the United States in Congress assembled, as when agreed to, by them, and afterwards confirmed by the Legislatures of every State, will effectually provide for the same.” – September 11, 1786 http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/annapoli.asp

            Thus the Congress replied with authorization which placed no limits on the number of amendments that may be proposed.

            “Resolved that in the opinion of Congress it is expedient that on the second Monday in May next a Convention of delegates who shall have been appointed by the several states be held at Philadelphia for the sole and express purpose of revising the Articles of Confederation and reporting to Congress and the several legislatures such alterations and provisions therein as shall when agreed to in Congress and confirmed by the states render the federal constitution adequate to the exigencies of Government & the preservation of the Union.” – Report of Proceedings, February 21, 1787 (Journals of the Continental Congress, Vol. 38, Library of Congress

            Thus this proves the first Convention was called expressly for amending the Federal Constitution titled the Articles of Confederation and authorized by Congress with no limits as to the number of Amendments that could be proposed.

            And the fact that many of the core principles remained the same is evident by a study of the two documents. Article 2, for example, is what became the 10th Amendment which was thought to inherently be the structure of the Constitution (but added to remove all doubt). Article 4 Section 2 remained virtually unchanged. The Federal Constitution continued to refer to ‘The United States of America”. Or even the letters of those such as James Madison (whom you or Jay Nock are accusing of ignoring the provisions of the Articles of Confederation or “simply putting the Articles of Confederation in the wastebasket and bringing forth an entirely new document of their own devising.”)

            “…the language of the clause being in conformity with that of the clause in the Articles of Confederation, it would be qualified, as in those articles, by the specification of powers subjoined to it.” – James Madison to Andrew Stevenson regarding the phrase “common defence and general welfare,” (which helps show it was not an entirely new document) http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_8_1s27.html

            And do I really need to prove the last sentence? Jefferson was an Anti-Federalist I think it’s obvious to anyone who has read Jefferson would know he revered the Constitution, although he felt some key areas needed changed, or modified, but not the entire document from what it exists today. “I wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to our Constitution. I would be willing to depend on that alone for the reduction of the administration of our government; I mean an additional article taking from the Federal Government the power of borrowing.” – Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Taylor, November 26, 1798

            As for your final link, which I’ve read before; I agree with many of the things stated, but it does not support your initial statement, or the argument of Jay Nock that our Constitution was “…laid down under unacceptable auspices; its history had been that of a coup d’état…”. The simple fact that it was ratified by the many states alone proves his opinion, and conjecture, false. No one was being fooled, there are Just some things that need fixed, as you final link articulates.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I find your comment to be long-winded, obtuse, illogical, and unconvincing, TML. Since I can’t imagine anybody slogging through your so-called proof, I see no reason to waste my time rebutting it.

            Before anybody can judge just what license was taken by men who obviously were behaving much like the Lords and King that the colonists had broken free from, they should read this and get a flavor for how Men of Power use Government to give themselves special privilege:
            http://mises.org/books/conceived1.pdf
            http://mises.org/books/conceived2.pdf
            http://mises.org/books/conceived3.pdf
            http://mises.org/books/conceived4.pdf

          • TML

            Ah yes, we wouldn’t want them thinking for themselves, now would we. While some men obviously did behave that way, none of that verbiage supports your claim that the Constitution was “…laid down under unacceptable auspices; its history had been that of a coup d’état…”. I have shown otherwise to the objective mind.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Thinking for themselves by reading your comments? Oxymoron. What else would we expect from you?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            TML says — “As is the second link stating that not one of them represented the interest of production, I must point out the opposition of the Constitution which led to the Bill of Rights and other protections against those special interests”.
            How do you suppose that “the opposition….which led to the Bill of Rights”, in any way refutes that not one of the Drafters represented the interest of production?
            That is a completely illogical claim, TML. And that is what I’ve come to expect from you. You ramble, ramble, and more ramble, thinking somehow that the more verbose you are the more correct you are.

          • TML

            The key phrase was “against those special interests”. I understand you have a poor attention span and think only in short sentences, but try not to blame me for your lack of comprehension. Ad hominem is your only option when being proven wrong.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            My attention span is quite adequate, TML. But I can slog through only so much of your persistent illogical comments before I accept the fact that you will stubbornly cling to your belief system no matter how much logic you are presented.
            I have no interest in converting you from your religion, TML, and I believe that your obtuse comments are not going to attract enough readership to be a threat to malleable young minds — which is my main concern.

          • TML

            Do you even realize that your only rebuttal is personal attack? Most likely, and typically, because you can’t provide a logical rebuttal. You can’t even articulate your own arguments, nor acknowledge a single fact presented. You zealously and religiously cling to every word presented by Mises without question, and you have the audacity to claim my position “religious”, lol. Once again Dave, you are a lying, dishonest, walking dichotomy.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            TML must be looking in the mirror again.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            TML says — “Furthermore, from the second link, “simply putting the Articles of Confederation in the wastebasket and bringing forth an entirely new document of their own devising.”… I believe is utterly incorrect. The first Convention was called expressly for amending the Federal Constitution titled the Articles of Confederation”.
            Do you not get, TML, that the original pact was Titled — The Articles of Confederation — and that the Framers were authorized to “amend” it only? And that the new pact was called the Constitution of the United States of America — an entirely new Document, not just an amended Document? Your illogical argument could be easily stretched to say that the Constitution of the Confederate States was just an amended Constitution of the United States of America. You don’t change the name of an Agreement when you amend it.
            I believe your logic (if you can call it that) is “utterly incorrect”, TML.

          • TML

            I address that perfectly below beginning with your question, “References?”. It’s not illogical if you actually knew how to apply logic, but such things seem to escape your capability as evident when you resort to attacking the person rather than the argument.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Your circular reasoning, TML, is not Logic. It does become maddening though after being exposed to too much of it.

          • TML

            Obviously you don’t even know the meaning of circular reasoning. Can you show where I used what I am trying to prove as part of the proof?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            It occurs when part of your “proof” uses a claim as fact when it has not been established as fact.

          • TML

            Wrong, that would be called an unsupported assertion. And I provided support for my assertions in my post below beginning with a quote of your question “References? You can claim fact all you want, TML, but your words alone are just conjecture.”

            Circular reasoning, or circular logic occurs when “the reasoner begins with what he or she is trying to end up with”. I invite you to point out such error on my part.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Oh please. I don’t have enough dramamine available to wade through any more of your tripe.

          • TML

            That’s because you judge subjectively, rather that objectively, Dave. As evident in your near constant onslaught of insults to anyone who holds a differing opinion, much less opposing facts (much like smilee).

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Argumentum ad Hominem. Or should that be ad Nauseum.
            I will let you have the last word, TML. As if I have any choice.

          • TML

            LOL, you crack me up

          • TML

            Btw, thank you for making new posts when you want to add to your comments. I know it becomes a fluster cluck for late readers, but they aren’t the ones I’m arguing with. Peace out, friend

          • smilee

            Because that would be unconstitutional as it sets the criteria needed to be president.

          • TML

            While debatable, since such requirement would be for candidates even prior to nomination (otherwise many of the requirements of the two Parties would be unconstitutional); I will correct my statement in support of an amendment to Article 2 Section 1. Still, I suppose the simplest argument is not to vote for any candidate that does not release such records upon request from his constituency.

          • smilee

            Not debatable, the Constitution is what it says and is not debatable. You have the right to support an amendment but your not very likely to succeed. Vote for the best man and you do not have to have those records to determine thatt

          • TML

            “Not debatable, the Constitution is what it says and is not debatable.”

            I’ll concur

            “You have the right to support an amendment but your not very likely to succeed. Vote for the best man and you do not have to have those records to determine that”

            It seems to me there is already a de facto requirement of education for President in today’s society. I can hardly imagine the best man being a high school dropout with little to no education, anymore than I could understand hiring a lawyer who doesn’t have a law degree. But then, there isn’t really a question as to whether Obama has a degree from Harvard Law, and that education seems to have not done him or the public much good. So, I’ll reluctantly concur, for now.

          • smilee

            If the constitutional requirements are met then it is up to the voters and they can do as they like, your personal opinions may or may not be relevant the voters would decide that

          • Vigilant

            I may be wrong, but I think it would require more than legislation. The Constitution sets the requirements for becoming president/vice president. Adding requirements would require an amendment, I believe.

            A helpful amendment would be one which defines “natural born citizen” once and for all.

      • smilee

        Reid, that is all lies these records are private and none of your business and he has not spent one dime to seal anything he simply did not release them and he does not have to and no one can make him.and either way it means nothing.

        • Ried

          George Bush’s college grades were known to be marginal and he was often characterized as unknowledgible and out of touch. How did that become public knowledge?

          • smilee

            I have no idea, how did they?

        • Ried

          By the way, it was 2006 (if memory serves correct) in the Chicago Tribune that the statement was made about Obama spending funds with attorneys to keep his college records closed. John Kass was the reporter.

          • smilee

            Why would he as he only has to say no to affect that?

  • Vazir_Mukhtar

    Mr Root, take to heart a remark by Albert Einstein: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is idiocy.

    It’s time to drop the issue of President Obama’s citizenship. It’s even a bigger loser than the Tea Party Republicans’ attempt to defund Obamacare.

    Put your efforts behind a policy or program that can work. The idea that proving Mr Obama is not a native-born American citizen and that for that reason he cannot be president holds about as much water as a crocheted bathtub.

    It’s time for those who think there’s something to be gained by pursuing this to cease and desist.

    • Don 2

      Vazir Mukhtar,
      It is quite obvious that you were unable to comprehend the article.

      • Vazir_Mukhtar

        Don 2, there’s considerable difference between ‘unable to’ and ‘failed to.’ Perhaps I missed the point. After all, even Homer nods.

  • DavidL

    President Obama was born in the US. Cruz is Canadian. According to your “logic”, Cruz is disqualified to be president. Take your time. Figure it out.

    Here’s the answer. Both were born of American mothers. So it doesn’t matter where they were born. He’s an American citizen. But of course, using your past arguments, Obama is the “real” American and Cruz is a Canadian.

    Why don’t you investigate, track down, and write about something within your ability level. How about what their favorite color is? But first go get another lunch. Obama just ate yours.

    • CJM2

      While ovomit was born of an American mother, she was not of legal age to confer citizenship to her son (at that time, legal age was 21) according to the law. Ted Cruz was born in Canada to an American mother and a Cuban father; however, she was of legal age and could confer citizenship onto her son. In either event, NEITHER OF THE TWO ARE NATURAL BORN CITIZENS because by definition, BOTH PARENTS MUST BE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES. There’s the rub. I like Cruz, but he is not eligible to become the President of the United States; his father did not become a citizen until after he was born.

      • Vigilant

        By that thread of logic, we should repeal the Civil Service Reform Act of 1883 and every piece of legislation signed into law by Chester A. Arthur. His father was not a US citizen at the time of his birth.

        The precedent was set in 1880 when Arthur was elected as vice president. That precedent was never challenged in the courts.

        P.S. The 14th Amendment sets no age criteria for the mother regarding the citizenship of the child.

        • Carlucci

          Vigilant – Thank you for posting that information regarding Chester Arthur. I did not know that about him, but now I do. Thanks – !

          • Deerinwater

            Vigilant, ~ can knock it out of the park, ~ when he leans in on anything. Always great source relevant factual tid-bits.

          • Vigilant

            I appreciate the compliment, Deer.

          • Vigilant

            Thank you. I’ve a special interest in Arthur since he lived in my area and we attended the same school in Schenectady, NY (Union College).

        • KG

          The 14th amendment was meant to insure the citizenship of the “other Persons” in the Constitution. You know, the ones who are the ancestors of our President?

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear KG,

            You write: “You know, the ones who are the ancestors of our President?” Only if his father was Frank Marshall Davis, which I suspect. Barack Obama Sr., his claimed father, was Kenyan and his ancestors were not American slaves. So for your statement to be true it would open up a can of worms for POTUS’ birth narrative, wouldn’t it?

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • KG

            Mr Bob, I would hope that you were aware of what I was referring to. Not that his literal ancestors were the ‘other persons’ mentioned, but the fact that a part of his heritage is from that same group of people.

            Have you been hanging out with any homeless people who cough a lot? I was wondering if it were possible for you to contract a ‘germ’.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear KG,

            You write: ” I would hope that you were aware of what I was referring to.” Your words were: “You know, the ones who are the ancestors of our President?” That is what I understood you to mean.

            You write: “Not that his literal ancestors were the ‘other persons’ mentioned, but the fact that a part of his heritage is from that same group of people.” That is simply not true based on his professed birth narrative. My mistake for engaging you. I temporarily forgot you are deliberately obtuse and the consummate liar.

            The rest of your comment is typical nonsense from you.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • KG

            Dear Bob,

            Thank you for your warm hospitality and charming forum to exchange loads of nonsense back and forth. I know you cheer the day that America falls apart, like most of the ‘patriots’ here hope for, so you can have a hand at rebuilding America into your sick, demented, militaristic Theocracy that the ‘founding fathers’ actually wanted.

            Best wishes,
            KG

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Bob has immense tolerance. Most people would have banned your Evil self from this board long ago, Cagey.

          • Vigilant

            Well, KG, that would shoot any argument in the foot that anchor babies are US citizens. Thanks for your Constitutional clarification.

          • KG

            I’m not so sure. I think it is within the Penumbra of the document. The fact that someone born on US soil makes them a citizen would be lost on someone like McCain since he was actually born in Panama. Did that stop him from running for President?

          • Vigilant

            To refresh your memory, the comment referred to Obama.s mother’s age at the time of his birth.

            You might want to go back and read what you wrote, i.e., what the 14th amendment was “meant to insure.” As you so directly implied, it was not “meant” for anchor babies, it was meant for the newly freed slaves.

            And quit the “penumbra” sh^t. That’s a leftist dodge to write law that was never intended by the Constitution.

            McCain was born on US territory (The Canal Zone), which qualified him and was not seriously challenged in court.

        • smilee

          Surprise, Surprise we totally agree on something as you are right here.

      • smilee

        The Constitution confers citizenship on citizens if you are born in the US are not your parents an Indiana court ruled he was a natural born citizen so you are SOL in your bogus theories.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Oh yeah, that proves it. Because Sleepee says so.

    • S.C.Murf

      You deserve what you are going to reap. TIME for you to make that popping sound.

      up the hill
      airborne

  • Warrior

    After watching the house vote on c-span last night and the socialist “bash fest” of the Tea Party, I began to wonder how after 7 years did it become the “responsible” and “patriotic” thing to do to raise the debt limit? Why queen “nan” said it herself along with all the rest of the hoopin and howling “progressives” that rose up to justify increased spending.

    Deficit spending on “foreign war” must be very bad.
    Deficit spending on “homeland war” must be very good.

    Oh, I see why the “chinese” were becoming upset!

  • 1baronrichsnot1

    No! it’s been proven the man was born in Kenya, his grandparents did paper work in hawaii, then he was transported to Hawaii 3 days later! The “birth” certificate produced is a copy, and not even on the proper format! Now, that doesn’t mean that after that, say 20 years later, your lies theory wasn’t perpetrated for all the foriegn student loans, school entries, and his communist roots and participation in the communist party affiliations, and didn’t occur! To the contrary it apparantly did, clear to the most casual observer! He had affiliations with known communist, some quite rich, George Soros, Tides foundation, foriegn money, middle east money (part of jihad)? Both of these donors have the same goals, the overthrow of the free market society and our representative republic! All those things you mentioned did occur! All the birth questions and lies also occured! You would just be surprised how many commies are in the MSM, in big business, in our gov’t,(communist party doesn’t even put forward a candidate any more) the progressive party is stealing their thunder, people will accept communism or even marxism if they think they are dealling with democrats. That was the goal, america is stolen, the constitution is trashed, freedom is lost, so results the same? I sure enjoyed your article mr. Root. Interesting, and fodder for dwelling!

    • Korporal Knish

      Very early on there was a You Tube video of Obummer’s grandmother saying she was right there in Kenya when he was born, (that video was quickly removed), there were 2 men who worked for airlines that said Obummer’s commie mother was so desperate to get on plane to get back to states so that she (now without a husband) could suck on Uncle Sam’s teats & get all the free goodies for her very soon to be born kid, but the she was too pregnant to be let on plane, & they removed her kicking & screaming & then there are the 3 highway signs when entering Kenya from other nations that say, “Welcome to Kenya, Birthplace of Barack Obama”…there are many other clues….I believe 100% that he was not born here, but, people can make up their own mind, but certainly fraud was committed when he got aid as a foreign student in Indonesia.

      But forget all the evidence, all the books & pundits & birth certificates ,etc…Obummer’s vibrations & his philosophy & ideology, etc..are not part of the mandala of this nation & are anti-freedom, anti-liberty, anti-free enterprise,anti-West, anti-white, anti-Founding Fathers, anti-Truth & Eqaulity, !anti-life! There are millions of people not born here who came & love America so much for what it has given them…Obummer came here to destroy it & build a commie/socialist haven

      • Bob666

        Well -Well,
        You-Tube, that proves it all!

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          What better evidence than to see the words coming right out of somebody’s mouth?

          • KG

            Yea, just like when Reagan said this:

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Is Social Security a Ponzi Scheme? No, worse:
            http://mises.org/daily/5658/Is-Social-Security-a-Ponzi-Scheme

          • KG

            quote: It’s possible for everyone in the entire community to “live below his means,” that is, to consume less than his income and to save.

            Tell that to the single mothers who work at WalMart. And to think that the ‘savings’ to society would allow capital investment is ludicrous! The billions that the Walton inheritors receive every year goes into their pockets, never to be seen again. That’s why Rich people need to pay higher taxes. Capital that stands still does no one any good. It has to get back into circulation.

            Social Security is one of the greatest civic programs there is. Unless you want to have your parents move in with your family.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            If not for you Socialists, Cagey, people would either be earning more money or they could buy more with what they did earn. Who do you think pays for that 40% of GDP that the Government consumes?
            The Private Sector creates Wealth. The Government consumes Wealth.

            KGB says — “The billions that the Walton inheritors receive every year goes into their pockets, never to be seen again”.
            Never to be seen again? Quite the contrary. They use most of it to build new Walmarts and bring more affordable products to those poor people you claim to care for, Cagey.

          • KG

            You are still being deluded. The Walton heirs don’t spend a penny investing in Walmart, just on their own little pet projects. Then, on top of that, in spite of having almost 40% of Americas total wealth, they have managed to pay less taxes that the entire bottom 20% of taxpayers.

            Ayn Rand couldn’t have been a selfish and self centered as these creeps.

            http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-12/how-wal-mart-s-waltons-maintain-their-billionaire-fortune-taxes.html

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            What business is it of yours, KGB, what anybody spends their money on? If you want some, earn it by doing something for them that they will willingly pay for.

        • smilee

          It is a major form of propaganda now.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            It isn’t surprising that immoral controlling Liberal Progressives are upset with a medium that can show the words coming right out of the mouths of the lying Leaders.

          • WTS/JAY

            Much like your posts!

        • WTS/JAY

          Well well, bull-chit polls, that proves it all!

          • Bob666

            Now Jay,
            You and I both know that one can make a poll say anything that you want it to if that is your intention. Some polling organizations do very reasonable and objective polls that have been very accurate in predicting elections and other social/economic outcomes.

            There are classes offered in higher level mathematics programs that dictate the statistical process in order to arrive at an objective and accurate polling result.

            there are a great many polling organizations that will help you arrive at the answer you want, but those organizations lack mathematical and social ethics Jay.

            Say what you want, but there are polling organizations that have produced accurate results for years and they have far more factual credibility than much of what can be found on You-Tube.

  • Don 2

    What is unarguable, is the Cloward and Piven strategy being used to overwhelm and collapse the system with spending, debt, and entitlements.

    • Karen

      Don2 He said in an interview after becoming president elect
      that we would be fundamentally transformed and Americans
      would be overwhelmed. Unfortunately that is one thing he
      did not lie about.

      • Don 2

        I agree Karen. Obama said all along exactly what he was going to do…..fundamentally change America.

  • CJM2

    How can you say he went to Columbia when you never saw him in class or at the graduation? Doesn’t make sense to me. ovomit is not an American citizen by any means, period. Is he a fraud? Absolutely. Is he a criminal? Absolutely.

  • red neck

    It doesn’t matter where you were born if your father is Lucifer.

  • Flashy

    Mr Root, the question I have is how did you become accepted into Columbia?? I graduated from a university in New Jersey, Ivy League; and you obviously wouldn’t have made a mailing list for consideration to apply…jeesh. my major was PolSci/Pre law and I couldn’t recall more than four or five fellow students with my Major ( the ones I spent long hours with studying as a group).

    How’s the bookie biz coming Mr Root? For that’s obvious you never left the snake oil businezz with the garbage you strew. I’ll take Oregon State and give the points and Alabama not covering the spread.

    A Columbia grad becoming a bookie. lol

    • speedle24

      HAHAHAHAHAHA. Flashy, if you graduated from Princeton I am the King of Siam. If you actually did you wasted your money.

    • Carlucci

      C’mon on now, Flushy. Do you really expect us to believe that a troll like you attended, much less graduated, from an ivy league college?

      I call bullsh** -!!

      • WTS/JAY

        I call it being extremely stoned when he wrote his bull-chit comment!

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      You expect us to believe you’re a college graduate, Flashman, with all the inane comments you make?

      • Vis Fac

        FLUSHY received his degree on line for $1.50 He was outrageously shortchanged !!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

      • WTS/JAY

        Flashy graduated from Bong-college, DaveH.

  • Jeff

    No one is frightened of you. The only reason Rachel mentioned you was to show how dangerous it is for Repugs who want to be elected to share a dais with someone like you.

    • red neck

      I would say that like ALL liberal/progressive/communist scum suckers they are afraid of the truth.

      • red neck

        No point in arguing with a fool like you…

        • Deerinwater

          Who’s truth? ~ for there seems to be many.

          Fear is not a good choice of words. Apprehensive of the truth would work best.

        • Jeff

          You are completely unarmed in a battle of wits.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Don’t you ever tire of that trite Liberal Progressive talking point — The Koch Brothers?

        • smilee

          As long as they have any power they are dangerous for the country so we better talk about them. Last election they were not to successful and their slaves in congress got their butts spanked real hard last night so it seems to be having a positive effect.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            They are Americans, Sleepee. It is you and your ilk that is ruining our once Free country. You should go where they believe as you do — North Korea or Cuba.

          • Vis Fac

            SMELLY when are you going to stop being a COWARD and answer my questions? Everyone is waiting for you to man up I know better for you are nowhere near being a man more like sissified COWARD !!!
            Until you answer you have ZERO credibility

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

        • Jeff

          Obviously you are feeding at their trough. And the Koch Brothers are hardly imaginary boogey men. They have funded all these “grass roots” tea party organizations.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Wah.
            So what? Obviously there are special interests in the Liberal Progressive ranks. Why shouldn’t Libertarian/Conservatives be expected to do the same?
            Can you stick to specific subject matter instead of using the trite Liberal Progressive technique of Argumentum ad Hominem?

          • Jeff

            The point is people should be aware whose interests are being pursued. If an organization like Heritage or Freedom Works pursues a right wing agenda (e.g. climate change denial), it is certainly relevant that the group’s principal funders have a direct financial interest in policies that might be enacted. It’s that simple, Dave. It’s about transparency.

          • Vis Fac

            Jeff says “If an organization like Heritage or Freedom Works pursues a right wing agenda (e.g. climate change denial),”

            OK Jeff First it was “Global Warming” when that was proved false you liberals changed the name to “Climate Change” (a naturally occurring phenomenon) and you’ve obviously been alive since the beginning of time to witness (and accurately report) on “Global Warming” oops I forgot “climate Change” as being anything but a naturally occurring phenomenon do you have anything to support your OPINION do you have hard data? Therefore since you cannot all that you say is merely conjecture.

            What isn’t conjecture is the fact that the lazy lethargic and indolent like you who pay no taxes benefit directly (for now) from those” financial interests. What’s going to happen when (not if) your gravy train leaves the station without you?

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          • Jeff

            You just keep believing that. The scientists are lying and only the Koch Brothers and Exxon will tell you the truth.

          • Vis Fac

            I am a scientist pragmatist and realist you are a fool to believe un-substantiated garbage and a real Albert Gore idol. One of my sons is a geologist and can debunk any so called expert on “global warming” as being nothing more than normal weather. So go ahead and stick with the uninformed sheeple and believe what you want. The evidence is in plain sight and you are BLIND
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          • WTS/JAY

            Global-warming is a fact, FC, and the cause of it is due to the pollution coming out of Washington. Down, with global-warming deniers!

          • Vis Fac

            Global Warming? Naw got to be a housewarming? No a a back up of hot gases extruded through miles of clogged cranial cavities finally exiting the SCOTUS culminating in a mass of political BS with a stench so bad the Heroes interned at Arlington National Cemetery need gas masks. Either that ODUMBO passed gas while addressing congress. Same difference same effect. The DC Green Fog !!!

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          • Don 2
          • TheOriginalDaveH

            No, Jeff, it has nothing to do with Transparency and everything to do with Liberal Progressive Manipulation — in this case Argumentum ad Hominem.
            If you want to talk transparency, tell everybody what your occupation is. Never mind, it likely wouldn’t be the truth anyway.

          • Vis Fac

            And you are deathly afraid of the Tea Party for they scare the hell out of you. If the Tea Party takes control you’ll have to be responsible and fend for yourself no more free stuff taken from others you’ll perish because you are ill-prepared.

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          • Jeff

            The Tea Party has lost its credibility and its popularity couldn’t be much lower, even among Republicans.

          • Vis Fac

            If this is true then why hasn’t it vanished?? Why do you liberals say and do all you can to discredit them?

            Fortunately the Tea Party is alive and well this will be evident in the2014 elections and it has you (and all liberals) scared to death. You only wish they would go away !!!

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          • Jeff

            Give it time. I like them because they push the Repugs so far to the right they become virtually unelectable. The Repugs might control the Senate now without the teabaggers. But now they’ve shown who they are and their popularity will plummet.

          • Vis Fac

            Well Jeff we’ve given ODUMBO plenty of time (and rope) and now it seems his most staunch supporters have turned on him. I dare say it is not the Tea Party or the republicans he needs to worry about but all the people he lied to and SCREWED with ODUMBOCARE.

            You must be deathly afraid of the Tea Party because you seem to spend more time deriding it than promoting your misguided agenda.

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          • Don 2

            I noticed a campaign by the Dems today to declare the Tea Party dead, from Bob Beckel to Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid and Barack Obama.

            I think the Tea Party will be back with a vengeance.

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            And SHOULD.

          • Vis Fac

            It’s merely liberal wishful thinking liberals are DEATHLY afraid of the Tea Party especially now that their agenda has been found to be; shall we say less than ideal?

            ODUMBO”S lies keep piling up he needs to create more chaos and controversy to stay ahead of the game. He cannot run fast enough to escape it ODUMBOCARE is going to be his legacy from which will divide the DUMBOCRITIC party.

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      • smilee

        How would you know as you have no clue what is the truth.

        • Vis Fac

          Now how about answering my questions you COWARD?

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      • Vis Fac

        They’re certainly afraid of the Tea Party if they weren’t they would be no need for them to viciously go on the offensive emphasis on offense!!

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  • Pumpkin Puss

    I don’t know if Root is right or not, though it would not surprise me….however, Palin was 100% right when she told McCain The Lame to go on & attack all his unsavory relationships….The vitriolic racist, The Wrong Rev. Wright, domestic & foreign terrorists like Bill Ayers, the corrupt real estate guy, Tony Rezko, affiliations with commie racist lawbreaking groups like ACORN, etc..But McCain The Insane, the phony war hero who his captors labeled the canary, was afraid he would be called a racist….NO BALLS!!!

    To this day I still cannot believe that after all the Rev. Wright stuff came out & we learned this bum sat in those pews for over 20 years listening to all that hatred that he still got the nod over Hillary The Harlot & then got elected prez. That showed me how ignorant & insane the electorate was!!

    BTW, the great Dr. Ben Carson who was critical of ObummerCare was also audited. I guess IRS is a cabinet dept. in Obummer land!!

    • Deerinwater

      Guilt by association is much like attempting to catch the wind. ~ You know it there while all you will ever have is a hand full of empty fingers.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Spoken by someone who knows all about being windy.

      • Pumpkin Puss

        Are you not known by the company you keep? Isn’t it hard to keep defending this bum & his ineffective policies? Isn’t it tiring to keep making apologies for him? FACT: Bill Ayers & his wife tried to kill Americans & blow up the pentagon & they became unrepentant fugitives & Obummer is a very close friend who worked on books with him!! This is the kind of man leading our nation & you don’t seem to care. It is not my fingers that are empty but your discernment & your soul!!!

        • smilee

          So it is irrelevant to anything current, most do not share your phony concerns!!

          • Vis Fac

            SMELLY Instead of piping up with your usual NONSENSE ow about answering my questions you COWARD?

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    • smilee

      None of your BS is relevant to anything!!

    • smilee

      None of your BS is relevant to anything!!

      • TheOriginalDaveH

      • Vis Fac

        SMELLY SMELLY SMELLY do you even read what you post? You obviously haven’t the capacity to think so you offer these knee jerk retaliatory insults. You’ve got your head so far up your A$$ you are suffering from hypoxia induced madness. TCH TCH.

        And you want us to take you seriously?

        Now how about answering my questions you COWARD?

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  • Don 2
    • Deerinwater

      Well , if the DNC offers us a strong candidate in 2016 , I hope they have Ted Cruz to run against. It would be blow out.

      • Don 2

        By 2016, Obamacare will have pi$$ed the public off so much that even the Dems won’t want to see another Dem as president.

        You’re Not Exempt From The Math

        http://eaglerising.com/2254/dave-ramsey-destroys-obamacare/

        • Bob666

          2016 will tell us if you are correct Don

          • Don 2

            You’re an engineer Bob. Engineers deal with logic, facts and figures. You do the math.

          • Vis Fac

            Good advice I suggest you follow your own advice. You obviously didn’t follow the link!!

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          • Don 2

            Force,
            What am I missing?

          • Vis Fac

            Possibly that mathematics don’t lie and people do. Bob is merely stating nothing is certain except death taxes and voter fraud.

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          • WTS/JAY

            Bingo!

          • Bob666

            Don,
            Know anything about statistical sampling Don?

          • Don 2

            A little early to rely on the accuracy of population sampling results. There are still variables in play, unless amnesty is granted to illegals. In which case, the results are a given, and we are a one party nation. Like you said once before, that would be scary.

        • Vis Fac

          Being an engineer owing my own firm I have a complete grasp of mathematics. Mathematics is merely common sense and is absolute a commodity severely lacking in liberals who think the laws of physics math and common sense don’t apply to them.

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      • Vis Fac

        Don- Being a naysayer you are toast.

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    • TheOriginalDaveH

      A better choice:
      http://2016.presidential-candidates.org/Johnson/

      Let’s get away from the hopes and dreams that Republicans will ever lead us out of the wilderness.

      • Don 2

        Let’s remember that your guy was also a Republican when he was governor. Nothing personal, but he is boring, and doesn’t seem to generate any excitement among voters…..no fire in the belly, if you will.

        P.S. – I don’t have any hopes and dreams that we will get out of the wilderness…..period. I think our goose is cooked!

        • Vis Fac

          Well once the SHTF and things settle we’ll have a chance at regaining our nation. Those who deny this will happen will be those relegated to selective extinction those of us who remain will have the common sense and motivation to rebuild things. Those naysayers who manage to survive will have no say so. and be FORCER to be responsible for themselves.

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        • TheOriginalDaveH

          I don’t want a Politician with “fire in the belly”. It takes fuel to feed those fires, and that is our problem.
          I want somebody who will stand tough against the Big Spenders, as Gary did when he was Governor of New Mexico.

      • Vis Fac

        TODH I would need to conduct more research on Mr. Johnson before I can offer endorsement or pledge a vote.

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        • TheOriginalDaveH

          I would expect that. Here’s his issues page:
          http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/issues

          • Vis Fac

            Thanks for the link From the little I read I rather like this guy I’d like to see any negative press If it is too insane then I know he’d be what is needed usually the more vile the criticism the less substance there is to that criticism and more likely what the man says and believes is true. I am not in complete agreement with Mr. Johnson’s immigration agenda although certainly better than what is now acceptable I prefer a complete overhaul before any additional immigration to be made easier. You forget I am an Immigrant who had to jump through hoops in order to be granted asylum. I hope you can understand that I don’t take my US Citizenship lightly and believe every immigrant should complete the same process for admission Including the so called “anchor baby” family.

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          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I think it should be easier to immigrate, but that the rules should be strictly enforced.
            The immigrants are just scapegoats for the economic problems which have been created by our ever-growing Government.
            Some Libertarians, who are considered radical by the elites of course, suggest that the issue of illegal immigration could be solved simply by strictly protecting property rights:
            http://mises.org/daily/1980/The-Libertarian-Immigration-Conundrum

          • Vis Fac

            It is easy for those who haven’t had to endure to process to be as cavalier as you seem to be. Immigrants legal or not are a strain on the system until they become acclimated and productive members of society most immigrants today merely drain resources.
            Every day we see families of 6-8-10 with hands full of EBT cards knowing we are paying for housing medical and (liberal indoctrination) schooling. How much of your legacy is being used to coddle and support immigrants? When will enough be enough until you say something?

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          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Don’t blame the immigrants, Force, for accepting what is offered to them.
            The problem is with the Social Engineering, not the immigrants. There should be no safety nets that aren’t paid for by willing donors.
            And Force, one of the unfortunate downfalls of human beings occurs when they expect others to suffer because they have. It isn’t difficult to imagine how quickly things would go to hell if we all had to suffer other peoples’ afflictions.

          • Vis Fac

            I don’t totally blame the immigrants for wanting to get what they can I have a problem with those who only come to sponge off the system and don’t contribute to society except breed like rodents. At least they could learn English.

            As a condition for entry we had to learn English when I was naturalized I had to speak English When I registered to vote I had to know English as English was the only language our ballots were printed with.

            Now how many languages are our ballots printed in? Isn’t it a requirement to vote being a citizen and if those who vote are citizens shouldn’t they be required to be proficient in English?

            What the hell happened? DUMBOCRITES happened they insisted we allow NON-CITIZENS who don’t speak English the vote.

            I blame those who idly sit back and let this happen and of course the liberals who want more/all the votes.

            Dave you didn’t have to jump through hoops to become a citizen and you don’t have to see that others merely sneak into this country and are granted what I had to work hard to achieve.

            The whole immigration system is a mess and I’m PI$$ED that no one cares, and most encourage this unlawful behavior.

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          • TheOriginalDaveH

            All those problems would be cured if we shrunk Government dramatically. There should be no welfare. It’s not their money to give. Ballots should only be printed in one language. If the immigrants can’t read English, how could they possibly cast an intelligent vote?
            Vote Libertarian.

          • Vis Fac

            You have used the biggest little word in the English language “if” Government is not self monitoring in fact No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size.
            Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we’ll ever see on this earth!

            I don’t need anyone to tell me how to vote Liberals tell you how to vote too and look at the mess we’re in!!

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    • smilee

      NEVER!!! He cooked his goose with independents this last week!!

      • Don 2

        You can believe your own liberal propaganda and skewed polls, but you cannot speak for the voting public.

        • smilee

          Your right and the voting public spoke for themselves when they elected Obama twice and enough in Congress to put this idiot in his place, do not think they will change their mind on him as I cannot ever remember any in congress making such a fool of them self proving he has no skills to be president. and I doubt that will be lost on the voters, they .are smarter than that and you

          • Don 2

            But now the public is finding out how much Obama has lied to them and screwed them over:

            Democrats Are Not Exempt From The Math

            http://eaglerising.com/2254/dave-ramsey-destroys-obamacare/

          • Vis Fac

            Now the public i.e. illegals, deceased,and those who voted for ODUMBOCARE are finding out that ODUMBO and ALL DUMBOCRITES LIE. 2014 cannot come quickly enough. then listen to the wailing chorus.

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          • smilee

            What lies? The public came to know it was the tea party doing all the lying, They believed Obama not them so your statement is just BS. Your propaganda reference should also be ignored as it too is BS

          • JeffH

            PROOF oh ignorant one…PROOF?

          • smilee

            Wake up it is so obvious to all intelligent people there is no valid reason to question it.

          • JeffH

            You’re(not your)just so full of wisdom, yourself and intellect that a caveman or a sack of rocks could understand you.

          • WTS/JAY

            Intelligent people are questioning it, nonetheless! Not the least bit surprising that you are not questioning it, smilee!

          • smilee

            Not an intelligent thing to do but you without intelligence gets left out either way!

          • Don 2

            smilee, the video describing how Democrats and Republicans are not exempt from the math of Obamacare has nothing to do with the Tea Party. It describes how we’re all going to pay the Pied Piper in the White House.

            Please explain why the article is BS?

          • Vis Fac

            Because BS is SMELLY’S dietary preference. He eagerly eats the BS from BSDNC and other lame stream media sources and of course all the BS from ODUMBO.

            The old saying you are what you eats certainly rings true in SMELLY’S case !!!!!

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          • Vis Fac

            SMELLY when are you going to be realistic instead of being brainwashed? The Tea Party SCARES the HELL out of YOU. You waste too much energy on denial that could be put to good use on your educating reversing the brain washing you received in Liberal indoctrination camp.

            Now AGAIN I ask why haven’t you answered my questions you COWARD?

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          • Don 2
          • smilee

            Why shouldn’t they hang their heads in shame?? They caused the shut down without reason and it cost taxpayers about 30 billion for their silliness. Yes, they should apologize.

          • WTS/JAY

            You mean the two Gangs in Washington stole 30 billion, smilee? No surprise here! Too bad you’re not getting any of it, huh smilee?

          • Don 2
          • Bob666

            Quoting Newsmax?

          • Don 2

            I don’t have a problem with Newsmax. I have it delivered to my in-box. Do you have a problem with Newsmax?

          • smilee

            Well, he can try but he cannot succeed, their predictions are not very likely either so there will be no revolt and they will continue to run into brick walls as they did last night.. Obamacare numbers went up 8% since it started and people became more aware of what it is. Dream on sucker.It will never be the disaster that the haters of it hope for. This is a losing endeavor for the Tea Party and the longer they persist the more they will self destruct.

          • Don 2

            Hey smilee, this is Saturday, and Obamacare is still a disaster. The best estimates are that a mere 20,000 people have signed up for Obamacare, while 200,000 people have signed up for a one-way, no return trip to mars on a commercial spacecraft. Heh-heh-heh…..

          • smilee

            Signing up has not gone good but disaster is to strong a word on a startup this size with demand so high, I’m told by software engineers this is often the case and regarded by them as normal and not that much different than when Medicare went on line to do much the same things and had many of the same troubles but it works very good now, This is much ado about nothing but gives the GOP fodder to feed their obsession with destroying Obamacare so you hear this BS a lot. The signup, does not define how Obamacare will work and your premature with your analysis which is probably just repeated rhetoric not analysis,

          • Vis Fac

            Which voting public SMELLY? The illegals, the deceased, or the fraudulent??

            Now how about answering my questions you COWARD?

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          • Don 2

            Obamacare Train Wreck: Americans Tweet Anger, Surprise Over Cancellations, Higher Premiums

            http://twitchy.com/2013/10/17/obamacare-train-wreck-americans-tweet-anger-surprise-over-cancellations-higher-premiums/

          • smilee

            Tweet all the anger you like, it is not as you falsely describe it and people are starting to see through that and then you haters will be sol

          • Don 2

            I don’t tweet smilee, so they’re not my tweets, but it is a fact that healthcare premiums have gone up in 45 states due to Obamacare.

          • smilee

            Gone up but much less than in the past but not because of Obamacare as it does not regulate premiums, deductibles or copay’s so that is not the reason they went up, that was done by the insurance companies on their own as they have done for years.. They were expected to go up much than they did, This is the lies you are hearing from all those wanting to destroy Obamacare and you are a sucker for their lies.

      • Vis Fac

        AND you’ve been cooking yours for quite some time as well SMELLY !!!!

        Now how about answering my questions you COWARD?

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        • WTS/JAY

          Maybe smilee doesn’t know what a question is?

          • Vis Fac

            Yet SMELLY(and others) seems to know all the answers to all the problems. If you don’t believe me than just ask them. I’m sure they’ll set us straight and make no bones about it !!

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    • JeffH

      He’s as birthright qualified as Obama is…which goes against the Constitutional qualifications.

      • TML

        The argument for saying so lies in the mere belief that “natural born citizen” was restricted to “both” parents being citizens at the time of their child’s birth, but this is highly debatable. My conclusion coincides with the linked article, although with a slight variation of how that conclusion is reached.

        The constitution never defines “natural born citizen” and so such definition must be ascertained elsewhere. It would seem most likely that the idea originated from the Law of Nations, by Emmerich de Vattel

        “I am much obliged by the kind present you have made us of your edition of Vattel. It came to us in good season, when the circumstances of a rising state make it necessary frequently to consult the law of nations. Accordingly that copy, which I kept, (after depositing one in our own public library here, and sending the other to the College of Massachusetts Bay, as you directed,) has been continually in the hands of the members of our Congress, now sitting, who are much pleased with your notes and preface, and have entertained a high and just esteem for their author.” – Benjamin Franklin to: Charles William Frederic Dumas, Philadelphia, 9 December, 1775

        The often used phase to support the idea of this definition being limited to “both” parents is as follows;

        “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.” – Law of Nations, by Emmerich de Vattel § 212. Of the citizens and natives

        But this does not mean that parents (plural) implies “two” citizen parents, since clearly it is only the father who is considered.

        “I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father [singular] who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”” – Law of Nations, by Emmerich de Vattel§ 212. Of the citizens and natives

        ‘Parents’, then is in relation to ‘citizens’ (also plural) and not an indication or requirement to “both” parents.

        This is further exemplified by SCOTUS rulings that only mention the same plural use of the word ‘parents’ parallel to the plural use of ‘citizens’. This isn’t a technicality since as we see in the US Code – Nationals and citizens of United States at birth, the explicit intent to name both parents, 8 USC § 1401(c) “a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States” etc.

        Dismissing the age-old idea of female submissiveness, inequality, or sexism prevalent in early society that was obviously the core of Vattel naming only the citizenship of the father as important to be defined a ‘natural born citizen’ then logically it should apply also if only the mother was a citizen.

        Seeing as how the founders never defined natural born citizen within the Constitution, and delegated Congress to define rule for naturalization in Article 1 Section 8 Clause 4, which they did in the US Code 1401, “natural born citizen” should be equally defined with what constitutes a citizen at birth. Namely, in the case of Ted Cruz, 8 USC § 1401 (d) “[The following shall be citizens at birth:] a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;”

        • JeffH
          • TML

            I addressed those court rulings, but will further point out that those rulings, using your own link, supports my argument….. which agrees with me in referencing The Law of Nations, written by Emmerich de Vattel.

            I think it is objectively clear that the phrase used in the Law of Nations, in its use of the word parents (plural) does not imply “two” citizen parents, since clearly it is only the father who is considered (confirmed by Shanks v. Dupont), and thus ‘parents’ is parallel to the plural use of ‘citizens’, which the Supreme Court cases only mimic.

            Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 242 (1830) – “…then she might well be deemed under the circumstances of this case to hold the citizenship of her father, for children born in a country, continuing while under age in the family of the father, partake of his national character as a citizen of that country.”

            Minor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875) – “it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth”

            United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) – “all children, born in a country of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth”

            So, unless one holds a sexist view that the citizenship of the mother is not as viable alone, the it seems the court actually supports my argument that the definition of “natural born citizen” does not require two citizen parents.

          • JeffH

            I totally disagree that “parents”, plural, can mean anything but both parents. It is illogical that the plural can be construed as the singular, or one.

            Note, it is customary for children to take the citizenship as well as the name of the father but that does not make them a “natural born citizen”, only a citizen.

            In his definition, had Vattel required only one parent, he would have stated such, “father who is a citizen” or “mother who is a citizen” and not “parents who are citizens”.
            http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/09/natural-born-citizen-clause-requires.html

            CONCLUSION: It should be noted, that to define a term is to indicate the category or class of things which it signifies. In this sense, the Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

            Hence every U.S. Citizen must accept this definition or categorical designation, and fulfil his constitutional duties accordingly. No member of Congress, no judge of the Federal Judiciary, no elected or appointed official in Federal or State government has the right to use any other definition; and if he does, he is acting unlawfully, because unconstitutionally.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      No, and you don’t want him.

  • mark

    “No, Obama isn’t foreign-born, but I believe he is a fraud.” Most Americans believe that you are a fraud, Mr. Root, after your Romney victory prediction last fall and your lifetime of work in sports booking and Las Vegas.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      You have no credibility on this board, mark.

      • mark

        Outside of copying and pasting Von Mises links, you don’t have much credibility yourself, Dave.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          I shoot you down every time, mark. Not that I’m bragging, because it isn’t very hard to do.

          • smilee

            LOL!! ridiculous!!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Put down that mirror, Sleepee.

          • Vis Fac

            You certainly are SMELLY !!!! Ridiculous that is !!!

            How’s about answering my questions you COWARD?

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          • WTS/JAY

            Yes you are, smilee, you’re ridiculous!

          • Vis Fac

            YOU SMELLY and rbrooks are CONTINUALLY shot down because you are COWARDS that don’t answer direct questions.

            At least we provide verifiable proof even if it is copy and paste. You only provide pejorative character assassinating labels. (Another characteristic of a coward)

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        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          At least he posts sources, so what is your excuse? Here is an article about articles of impeachment being drawn up in the House.
          http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/articles-of-impeachment-handed-out-in-house/
          FO)R GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
          “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.”
          Genesis 1:1

      • smilee

        What makes you think you do??

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Because, unlike you Sleepee, I don’t lie.

          • KG

            Only where the ‘merits’ of fascism are endangered, right Dave?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            More lying slander from the Shill KGB.

          • Vis Fac

            Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill

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          • KG

            Oh, so your ‘hero of the day’ is a fat, drunk, pompous, closet Fascist?

          • Vis Fac

            Hit a nerve did I? Obviously this is the typical response from a blow-hard liberal who has been found out and SHUT DOWN.You label me a Fascist have you looked in a mirror lately??

            I’m going to ask you the same questions I asked the other blow-hard liberal cowards and DARE you to offer a LUCID response.

            Why are you liberal? Let me ask you as I have asked others and have yet to receive responses other than what “your” idea of a response should be. Why are you
            the first to use pejoratives to assault others (as you’ve done here) when you have nothing to support your argument then become incensed when others respond in kind??

            Aside from receiving free welfare, free food stamps, government support, having no personal responsibility, believing that you know everything and have authority
            to dictate others how they should live, and in lieu of providing solutions to problems (that you continually ignore) that would actually work instead enacting inane ineffective statutes. In short what have you provided that could be considered positive towards society?

            Why is it that you continue to champion for the safety of our children then reverse your concerns when it comes to government sanctioned murder of millions of innocents children through Planned Parenthood? You certainly make a lot of noise when a nut case goes off and murders school children by deafly mute about
            murder by abortion. Why is that?

            Another thing I have asked and again you liberals never have any response. What are you going to do when (not if) the money runs out and there are no more people to tax that pay your entitlements, print more paper? When asked about the bankruptcy of Detroit you liberals continue to blame it on mismanagement forgetting Detroit has been managed by DUMBOCRITES for more than 50 years yet STILL do not except responsibility!!! Why is that?

            Personally; I think the biggest draw to liberalism is the lack of having to except personal responsibility for oneself and assign blame of your failure on others.
            This eliminates the need to be proficient in school or at ones job. The old reliable liberal trademarked maxim ‘It’s not MY fault”. We all know it is an excuse for you to cop out.

            I am of the opinion that people with weak character and compromised morals are those who embrace liberalism. They are most often angry at success and because their lethargy and indolence will never let them achieve success so they hate, abase and ridicule those who have. We all know most people like to take the
            easy way out and in that respect the “most” here in the nation embrace liberalism.

            Since liberals feel (subconsciously) inferior and as misery loves company; liberals try to control others through statute inflicting as much misery as
            possible.

            Again; and I don’t expect a response: I would like to know why you think our Constitution is out dated and why you are willing to cede freedoms which when lost
            can never be regained sans revolution as our forefathers fought for. If you are at all honest with yourself you will see you are in error a grievous error that can be fatal.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • KG

            You cannot ‘shut me down’ as long as I’m willing to fight for what’s right and just. I’m not a ‘typical liberal’ just as you are not a typical ‘conservative’. Unless you are a typical conservative; for in that case, you have earned the title of Fascist.

            While I could defend my liberal outlook all by my self, Lawrence ODonnell has written a response that is as encompassing and effectual as anything I could write:

            “What did liberals do that was so offensive to the Republican Party? I’ll tell you what they did. Liberals got women the right to vote. Liberals got African-Americans the right to vote. Liberals created Social Security and lifted millions of elderly people out of poverty. Liberals ended segregation. Liberals passed the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act. Liberals created Medicare. Liberals passed the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act.

            “What did Conservatives do? They opposed them on every one of those things, every one. So when you try to hurl that label at my feet, ‘Liberal,’ as if it were something to be ashamed of, something dirty, something to run away from, it won’t work, because I will pick up that label and I will wear it as a badge of honor.”

          • WTS/JAY

            “There is an organic connection between liberalism and lies. Lying is the lifeblood and mother’s milk of liberalism. Liberals and the left lie effortlessly and naturally. They are far more comfortable with lies than the truth. Speaking the truth is almost an impossibility for them. It’s in their DNA.

            The fraudulently labeled “Affordable Care Act” is typical of the millions of lies liberals have told over the years. President Obama and Democrats made promises and predictions they knew were untrue. They lied about what motivated the embassy attacks in Egypt and Libya. They lied, and continue to lie, without a second thought and without the slightest remorse.” -Ron Ross

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Unsupported conjecture.
            One could bet without bothering to research, that every one of those achievements was promoted to aggrandize the Power and Perks of the Elites.
            Sure enough, here’s just one example:
            “But while the social lives of liturgical males revolved around the saloon, their wives stayed at home. While pietist women were increasingly independent and politically active, the lives of liturgical women revolved solely about home and hearth. Politics was strictly an avocation for husbands and sons. Perceiving this, the pietists began to push for women’s suffrage, realizing that far more pietist than liturgical women would take advantage of the power to vote”.
            http://mises.org/daily/1259/The-Progressive-Era-and-the-Family

            Progressives are always looking for new ways to grow their Power.

          • Vis Fac

            Liberals only fight for what’s right and just for THEM. Your right you are not the typical liberal you are a MARXIST Liberal the worst kind. FYI I never claimed to be a conservative and if you had paid the slightest attention to my posts you know that I am independent and a Constitutionalist.

            Lets address your comments on voting Liberals claim to be on one oppressed section of society only when it is to their benefit. i.e. Women tend to vote liberal so naturally the DUMBOCRITES championed Womens Suffrage again Liberals only fight for what’s right and just for THEM

            Black Americans (I say black because 90% never set foot in Africa and some black people come from the Caribbean and Central America so you had best get your facts straight and stop being politically INCORRECT) tend to vote for the party who promises the fee stuff which is which party? (one guess) DUMBOCRITES. Again Liberals only fight for what’s right and just for THEM!!

            Now we’ll address Social Security The SSA was setup as a program to aid the retirement of older people and had one blanket charter which has never changed sans shifting of some (not all) funds from the vast pool of the SSA to the general fund during (guess who) Carter’s administration. If that wasn’t bad enough Carter a Liberal decided it would be great if illegal aliens were allowed to have benefits they hadn’t paid into just to secure more votes. Again Liberals only fight for what’s right and just for THEM !!!

            Let’s address Bill Clinton and his many liberal vote getting moments. Not to be out done by Carter Clinton further allowed the raiding of the SSA coffers entitling illegals more benefits disability food stamps and health care out of the (guess what) the SSA funds once again Liberals only fight for what’s right and just for THEM

            One more little tidbit regarding Clinton’s legacy you’re gonna love this one!

            Bubba Bill mandated the Fannie Mae and Freddy mack grant loans those who could not afford or qualify for mortgages guaranteed by taxpayer dollars. Don’t you just love it?. What this did was to cause real estate prices to skyrocket because more people were granted loans up to 115% of the appraised value via “creative financing” (variable mortgage rates) Thus the artificially inflated housing and larger mortgages that people could not afford. Once Again Liberals only fight for what’s right and just for THEM

            Do you know what happened next? Around about 2007 These creative financing rates started to rise and those with creative financing could not afford their mortgages causing massive defaults. Well Fannie Mae Freddy Mac and the institutions that lent them the money took a hit and guess what? BAILOUTS the rest is history

            Remember Liberals only fight for what’s right and just for THEM

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • KG

            Quote:…you know that I am independent and a Constitutionalist.

            A perfect definition for a typical ‘conservative’. They are all independent thinkers and give lip-service to a document they don’t even really believe in or even know that well.

            I’m guessing you cheated on your taxes and can’t qualify for SS. Too bad. You must have believed Reagan when he said the SS won’t be in your future.

            The ‘creative financing’ was done by “independent Mortgage Brokers” who used the Freddy and Fannie programs to finance their own ‘ponzi’ scheme. I lived in Southern California and bought and sold some real estate during the late 2000’s. It was the ‘free money’ of Greenspan that accelerated home purchases to cover for Bush’s utter lack of growth in the real economy.

            And, I’m guessing you think that none of those people who were given their right to vote benefited you at all? Well, instead of having a recession, we could have another French Revolution. After all, TJ would say the

            “Tree of liberty” needs to be watered, eh? But, of course, “THEY” would never get to you, right?

          • WTS/JAY

            Unlike your hero, KG, who married into the wealthy upper-crust, and then started a crusade against capitalism. Can you say hypocrite? Did i mention Karl Marx was also a pederast?

          • WTS/JAY

            Karl Marx was a pederast.

          • KG

            So is Rush Limbaugh – how many people do you know who are single and go to third world countries where child prostitution is practiced carrying Viagra and Oxycodon?

            Some talk coming form a catholic! I knew some alter boys when i was growing up. They told me what was going on in the rectory! The TV with a VHS recorder, porno tapes, a beer tap, etc etc….

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Like I say, Cagey — You are pure Evil.

          • WTS/JAY

            Nowhere was Marx’s hypocrisy more evident than in his personal life. The champion of the working class knew well only one working class person: Helen Demuth, the maid who worked for his family.

            Marx, who railed against the exploitation of the workers, exploited his only worker both financially and sexually. In the forty-five years Helen worked for the Marx family, he never paid her a penny. She received only room and board, which for several years was as meager for her as for Marx’s unfortunate wife and children.

            In 1849-50, while the family plus servant were living in a two-room flat, Marx started an intimate relationship with Helen and got her pregnant. He refused to admit that the child, a son named Freddy, was his, and had him put out as a foster child.

            As Freddy grew up, he was permitted to visit his mother in the Marx’s kitchen, but was forbidden to use the front door.

            The man who claimed compassion for millions of oppressed workers never spoke a word to his own working class son. Hypocrite! If the quality of integrity is absent in the person, how can it be present in his or her ideas?

            Like many self-appointed intellectuals, Karl Marx, ‘loved humanity’ not humans. He loved the masses in the abstract not particular people.

            http://www.aish.com/ci/s/48898422.html

          • Don 2

            Prove your allegation about Limbaugh KGB. Prove that you’re not just running off at the mouth.

          • smilee

            Problem being davy you do not know the difference between a lie and the truth so that is irrelevant.

          • Vis Fac

            SMELLY speaking of being IRRELEVANT and being able to discern lies for truth fact form fallacy I need only point out you believe ODUMBO id the messiah and cannot tell a lie. To that end you are immediately disqualified to comment. That and being a COWARD by not answering my questions.

            So the amount of credence we give you is measured in micro give-a [expletive deleted] And so AGAIN I OWN you

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • JeffH

            Au contraire untruthfull one, relevant it is…you’re(not your)looking in the mirror again I see!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You don’t think I know the difference between you and me?

          • WTS/JAY

            Problem being, smilee, is that you consider the truth to be irrelevant to your lies. That, is your problem!

        • S.C.Murf

          From the rest of us smelly.

          up the hill
          airborne

          • JeffH

            Ditto that!

        • Vis Fac

          Because SMELLY you are a COWARD and refuse to answer direct questions which gives you ZERO credibility!!! You have no business commenting unless you can support YOUR opinion. Answering my questions might give you more credence however we all know you are too much a COWARD to respond and for that reason I OWN you!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

        • JeffH

          I’ll vouch for him but I know you, as well as mark, mark, mark, have no credibility whatsoever!

          • smilee

            Your not credible so your vouching for him is meaningless!

          • JeffH

            Only to a meaningless ignoramus like you sleepee!
            LMAO!

          • WTS/JAY

            Your English, is not very credible, smilee; in fact, your English is meaningless!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Look who is talking about no credibility? This is the pot calling the kettle black. Just shut up and go home. The propaganda kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you and your treasonous family out.

          • smilee

            Sammie, The Propaganda Kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth!!!..

        • WTS/JAY

          What makes you think?

      • WTS/JAY

        But he is, consistent!

    • Vis Fac

      Mr. Root’s prediction of a Romney win did not account for massive voter apathy and fraud. Consider the second worst performing president was soundly defeated by an actor who was then a governor that corrected the mess the former governor created.

      We now have a bought and paid for lame stream media lauding the less than stellar performance of the WORST president in US history and the dumbed down functionally illiterate believing that several precincts had 100% turnout and 100% voting for ODUMBO.

      So now we turn our attention to you. Gee what can we say other than you have been brainwashed and owned by the system as well!
      Now isn’t that better than labeling you a moron?

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

      • Karolyn

        Btu I thought WAR knows everything! Silly me!

        • WTS/JAY

          Yes Karolyn, you’re silly!

        • Vis Fac

          British Thermal Unit? what does that have to do with WAR? Better still what does any of the content of this (your) post have to do with the topic?

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • WTS/JAY

            Lol!

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Argument to ridicule. Just another libturd/progturd troll. Here is something about Obama bin Laden and the shutdown.
      http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/bombshell-white-house-planned-shutdown/
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
      “America is most justly called a Christian nation because Christianity has so largely shaped and molded it.”
      SCOTUS Chief Justice Brewer

  • KennyLLC

    Obama could very well have been born in Africa, since Hawaiian law allowed mere residents to apply for birth certificates since WWII. In some cases, it only took 90 days to get a birth certificate issued to a foriegn born child in Hawaii.
    LIKEWISE after leaving for Indonesia and his mother marrying Lolo Soetoro, he took on the name Barry Soetoro, and dual citizenship was not allowed. Nor has it ever, in Indonesia.
    Denial of American citizenship was necessary to enroll him in school there as a Muslim.
    When his mother got divorced and left him with his grandparents Hawaii again allowed a new birth certificate to be created and the old one sealed after only one year without his mother’s contact.
    His old Hawaiian certificate probably said “African” but Obama has paid good money to insure Hawaiian law trumps federal law.
    So what does that tell you about him and his character?

    • KennyLLC

      …Hawaiian law allowed foriegn born children to get fake birth certificates:
      “Acess to Original Birth Certificate Citation: Rev. Stat. §§ 578-14; 578-15; 338-20
      If a new birth certificate is issued, the original birth certificate shall be sealed. The sealed document may be opened by the department only by an order of a court or when requested in accordance with § 578-15. The birth parent may be provided a copy of the original birth certificate upon request. Barry Obama’s birth father did not have to consent to the adoption because he had been out of the picture for more than two years. According to Hawaiian law,
      When Parental Consent is not Needed Citation: Rev. Stat. § 578-2 Consent is not required from the following: A parent who has deserted a child for a period of 90 days without affording means of identification A parent who has voluntarily surrendered the care and custody of the child to another for a period of 2 years A parent, whose child is in the custody of another, who has failed for a period of at least 1year to communicate with the child or provide for the care and support of the child when able to do so”

  • LK

    Is Obama The World’s Biggest Birther?

    Communist in the NAACP, Democrat Socialist Party, Liberal Left ? similarly, mohammedanism, has formed 80% and 87.5% of these groups even though they were only 5% of the population. This helps explain why Holder is still the AG . The the look of the Future of the road we are on. The victims will soon come to include members of other religious leaders, journalists, artists, senior bureaucrats, judges, lawyers, students and intellectuals, criminal suspects, and foreign nationals. In this atmosphere of violence, many other people will be killed for criminal motives or simply at will. Bodies were often dumped into the streets. and at least twice as many civilians, had disappeared. They will expropriate businesses and properties belonging to the white devils (conservative) and handed over to his supporters. The businesses were mismanaged, and industries collapsed from lack of maintenance. This proved disastrous for the already declining economy. This described obama’s regime as racist erratic and unpredictable, brutal, inept, bellicose, irrational, ridiculous, and my be militaristic in the future or just NUTS !

    The SDS is the old leg ?

    • Vis Fac

      SDS = Radical MOB rule

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

    • WTS/JAY

      Hitler all over again!

  • Deerinwater

    “He isn’t a foreigner portraying himself as an American. He’s an American who fraudulently portrayed himself as a foreigner. So because of his own fraudulent actions, Obama is actually the one to blame for starting all of this conspiracy talk.”

    Oh boy ~ So? Whos on first? ~ No! Whos on second!

    I gotta hand it to you Mr. Root , it cannot be said that anyone might find you short on effort.

    That he could have been hatched in Timbuktu and raised up in the cane breaks by an old mamma lion and it not make an once worth of difference still seems to elude you.

    Let it go ~ my propitious friend ~ and move on to something that you might have a shot influencing.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Spoken by the master of obtuse.

    • Vis Fac

      Truth is always stranger than fiction this is why liberals always get things WRONG. Too bad you haven’t a mind capable of excepting anything other than one dimensional. What part of this concept can’t you understand?

      At one time I thought ODUMBO was a foreigner too. I was sure he was foreign born but when you connect the dots what Mr. Root says is MORE than plausible most likely possible or even fact. That is to anyone with an open mind!

      Think about tall the lies and cover ups you need to keep telling lies to continue to cover the first then more and bigger to cover those and so on. ODUMBO lies as easily as a fish swims in water. Eventually the fish gets hooked and then eaten.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

    • JeffH

      So says the Jabberwock! Sheeesh!

    • WTS/JAY

      Deer, perhaps you’ll believe the facts straight from the “horse’s mouth”…?

      http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=22b_1380730865#Jd5jEe9HLWDGAh3z.99

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    Who cares? What is important is where our Government is taking this country — Away from Freedom, towards Serfdom, and away from Prosperity. Those people who want to remove the Propaganda Blinders should read this, and many more:
    http://library.mises.org/books/Kel%20Kelly/The%20Case%20for%20Legalizing%20Capitalism.pdf

    By the way, here is the head donkey saying that Capitalism has never worked:

    What would we do without those wonderful Economy Fixers in Government? Be Free, Be Prosperous is what.

    • Vis Fac

      I keep looking for this clown’s nose to grow. I especially enjoyed the pop up tags refuting his entire diatribe especially the one labeling him as being “bank owned”!

      I got a kick out of his mentioning opportunity to succeed has been available to everyone yet liberals inherently don’t want opportunity to succeed but the opportunity to leech off the system

      However: Opportunity is missed by most people because it is
      dressed in overalls and looks like work. Thomas Edison

      AND

      The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is
      too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it. Michelangelo

      As Winston Churchill said Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.Winston Churchill

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

  • smilee

    Like playing a broken record it gets stuck and make a lot of weird noises. At the time Obama was attending Columbia he was unknown and being a black and unknown might be the reason you never seen him, but he was there! Another editorial without any merit.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      You know that how, Sleepee?

      • WTS/JAY

        He was there, majoring in English. ROFLAMO!!!

    • smilee

      That is because they are stupid! Only a fool would respond to them.and I am not a fool, you own that distinction!

      • WTS/JAY

        But you just responded, fool!

      • Vis Fac

        It’s Not that my questions are stupid it’s YOU who is stupid but more importantly you cannot answer them without showing everyone you are a MORON or defend your position.

        In which case makes you a LOSER and anything you say INVALID.

        I OWN YOU SMELLY

        NOW ANSWER MY QUESTIONS — WUSS OR SHOULD I SAY LOSER

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

        • Vis Fac

          So much for free speech here comments deleted by a spineless moderator afraid of the truth. Seems as though this site is becoming less tolerant than originally advertised

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • Don 2

            I have to agree with you on the free speech issue Force. I.ve had stuff deleted here that would be acceptable on prime time television. Quite a bit of censorship overkill. Time for the moderator to get in the real world.

          • Vis Fac

            So I’m not the only one. I find this disturbing And I thought only liberals deleted comments and opinionsthey couldn’t defend

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        The propaganda kid strikes again. Spreading his lies and filth. Here is something about the unconstitutional Common Core program.

        http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/2013/10/18/how-not-to-argue-with-parents-about-common-core-n1726684/page/full

        I hate to tell you, but you are a fool. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.

        “Courage is fear holding on a minute longer.”

        General George S. Patton, Jr.

    • JeffH

      Proof oh sleepee one, PROOF? Next you’ll tell us you were there and say “trust me, I know” too!

      FYI, he’s not all black…unless Stanley Ann Dunham is not his real mama or Obama Sr. isn’t his real daddy!

      • smilee

        White’s saw him as black as they do not recognize him as mixed or white just as black. So your irrelevant to my post!

        • JeffH

          I asked for PROOF sleepee…PROOF?

          Just because you say so isn’t proof and doesn’t make it true…ya dummy!
          IS OBAMA BLACK?

          Pew Research Center racial attitudes survey finds views differ sharply among racial and ethnic groups.
          Overall, about a quarter of Americans (27%) see President Barack Obama as black; a 52% majority see him as of mixed race.

          Offered a choice, most blacks (55%) say Obama is black, while about a third (34%) say he is mixed race.

          Among whites, the pattern is reversed. Most (53%) say he is mixed race, while just a quarter (24%) say he is black.

          Hispanics are even more inclined than whites to see him as mixed race; 61% do so.
          http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/is-obama-black/

        • Vigilant

          Still haven’t learned the difference between “your” and “you’re”? What a “maroon.”

          • smilee

            They are both correct here!

          • WTS/JAY

            To which items are you referring to as being correct here, smilee; your propaganda or your lies?

          • Vigilant

            ROFLMAO! You’re PRICELESS, smilee!

    • WTS/JAY

      Were you there, smilee?

      • smilee

        No I took Root’s word for that, do you think he is lying?

        • WTS/JAY

          Who, Obama or you?

          • smilee

            Dummy, Root, who taught you to read??

          • WTS/JAY

            Who taught you to write?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Who taught you how to interact with others? Are you mental faculties working this time or not? Here is an article about Hitlery Clinton and the bodycount for her to run in 2016.

            http://www.theblacksphere.net/2013/10/47-bodies-left-in-the-wake-of-hillary-clinton-part-1/

            This stupid witch has already had people killed over Whitewater, but how many more is she going to have killed before 2016? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.

            “In case of doubt, push on just a little further and then keep on pushing.”

            General George S. Patton, Jr.

          • smilee

            Sammie, The Propaganda Kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth!..

          • WTS/JAY

            smelly, Obama’s illiterate b*tch is trolling again!!!!!!!

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Argument to ridicule. The propaganda kid strikes again. Spreading his lies and filth. Here is an article describing a patriot’s pain. Something you and Obama bin Laden cause on a daily basis.

      http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/10/pain-patriot/

      Be a good little boy and go home and play. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.

      “I don’t measure a man’s success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hite the bottom.”

      General George S. Patton, Jr.

      • smilee

        Sammie, The Propaganda Kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth! Just some more propaganda!

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          The propaganda kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth! Since you are not a patriot, nor do you know anything about patriotism, you cannot comprehend what was said in the source I had posted. But alas! We can’t expect a person with no credibility to understand anything about patriotism. Here is an article about a person who stopped being a left wing wacko informant and became a leader in the Tea Party.

          http://www.politichicks.tv/column/brandon-darby-leftist-informant-tea-party-darling/

          Looks like he wised up. Let’s get more of them across this nation. Thank goodness your kind is a dying breed. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you and your treasonous family out.

          “A good solution applied with vigor now is better than a perfect solution applied ten minutes later.”

          General George S. Patton, Jr.

          • smilee

            Sammie, The Propaganda Kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth!……. Lies lies lies about me as you totally misharacterize me, you are not only a liar you just are incapable of understanding reality,

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            You just can’t handle the truth about your situation. The traitor strikes again, spreading his lies and filth! Here is an article showing how a new tax plan could end government education.

            http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/12935/new-tax-plan-end-government-education/

            Here is one that describes how Obama bin Laden won, but the average American lost.

            http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/12924/obama-wins-everybody-loses/

            Stop lying and spouting rhetoric about this administration’s policies. We do not need them you lazy, unamerican traitor. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you and your traitorous family out.

            “Religious services are regularly performed at the University by a chaplain, who is appointed in turn from the four principle denominations of the State. And by a resolution of the Faculty, ministers of the Gospel, and young men preparing for the ministry, may attend any of the schools without the payment of fees to the professors.”

            Washington D.C. Newspaper, 1820
            Article about the University of Virginia

            *No secular university there.

          • smilee

            Sammie, The Propaganda Kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth!,

        • WTS/JAY

          smelly, Obama’s b*tch is trolling again!

  • ONTIME

    So Mr. Root, while I am willing to listen to you am I to understand that Arpaio and Corsi and a number of other fine investigators have wasted their time consolidating and verifying collected evidence?….We wholeheartedly agree this POtuS in our Oval Office is a con artist and a Fraud and I would love to see his legally restricted credentials exposed and I would like to see a valid BC…..I want to see this crook and his cronies in jail.

  • LINDITA

    AS PEOPLE, COMPETENT JEB BUSH DESERVE TO BE A NEXT PRESIDENT. WE THE PEOPLE TRUST HIM TO GET AMERICA BACK. AMEN!

    • Karolyn

      Oh, please, heaven forbid! Not another Bush!! Never happen!

      • LINDITA

        TALIBAN BELIEVE IN CHARLATAN, AMERICAN PEOPLE BELIEVE IN POLITICIAN. SO, SAFE AGAIN WITH COMPETENT JEB BUSH. AMEN!

        • Motov

          I think the shrub has worn out his welcome,…
          How about Andrew Napolitano?

          • LINDITA

            AS PEOPLE, ALWAYS PATRIOT ROYAL BUSH FAMILY IS WELCOME ANYTIME. WE AMERICAN PEOPLE FEEL ROYALTY WHEN WE HEAR THEIR VOICE AND ALL THE SCREEN TV FILL FULL. THE BUSH FAMILY BRING ENTHUSIASM TO AMERICAN PEOPLE AND HOPE FOR THE FUTURE. AS PEOPLE, WE TRUST POLITICIAN RELIABLE COMPETENT JEB BUSH TO GET AMERICA BACK. AMEN!

          • Motov

            I do not share your beliefs, I didn’t care for the first 2 shrubs, As “Daddy” shrub welcomed us to the NWO.
            Then shrub junior signed the “Patriot act” which violates the 4th amendment (a GOD given right). Sorry,. I doubt any other shrub has anything good to offer America.

          • LINDITA

            AS PEOPLE, PATRIOT RELIABLE BUSH FAMILY SHOULD BE “TEST” TO KNOW AMERICA’S ENEMY. FOR EXAMPLE: “MOTOV” AUTOMATICALLY WENT TO OUR ENEMIES. LA,LA,LA……

          • Motov

            I have no clue what drug you are on.
            I dislike both parties because they are the same.
            Do you have a clue what the Constitution is about?
            Shrub Jr. has allowed our government to grow.
            Obozo has allowed our government to grow.
            I desire to see our Government shrink.
            To call me an enemy of the USA is unacceptable!
            I was polite in disagreeing with you.
            Typing in all caps is considered shouting and is also rude.
            From this point on, you are IGNORED.

          • LINDITA

            AS PEOPLE, WE SEE CRITICAL PERSON ESPECIALLY IN YOUR “POLITE” MORE THAN A “RUDE” PERSON. OPPORTUNIST IS LIKE ALLIGATOR SNAP WITH A TURTLE.

          • LINDITA

            TRIBE ROOT IN A GREEK SAID, ONE PERCENT IN AMERICA AND BEYOND. LA,LA,LA……

          • LINDITA

            AS PEOPLE, THE CATEGORY WHO DON’T LIKE AND SCARED FROM PATRIOT ROYAL BUSH FAMILY ARE: A TERRORISTS TALIBAN, MEN WHORE, BITCHES, TRAITORS, THIEVES, SABOTEURS, GLUTTONOUS, CAREERISTS, INCOMPETENTS, CREEPING, COWARDS, OPPORTUNISTS, RETROGRADES WHO HAVE A LINK WITH A FASCIST-TERRORISTS GROUPS TO INSTALL A GREEK FASCISM IN AMERICA AND BEYOND. LET SAY ARE CORRUPTED 25 PERCENT AROUND THIS BAD SEED, ONE PERCENT IN AMERICA AND BEYOND. 74 PERCENTS ARE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO LOVE AMERICA AND PATRIOT BUSH FAMILY. THIS IS A POLL FROM THE SIMPLE PEOPLE.

      • Don 2

        Karolyn, I agree with you. Jeb Bush is another progressive.

        • Bob666

          Don,
          I had Jeb as my Governor for two terms. He was OK as a Governor, but not exceptional. I believe that he hit the peter principal as Governor.

          • Don 2

            Hey, does that mean that Karolyn, you, and I agree on something? Hold on, I think I need a drink!

          • Bob666

            Well Don,
            It’s happy hour somewhere in the world-you might want to get a head start!

            ROTFLMAO

          • WTS/JAY

            Just as long as you are dissing Republicans, Conservatives and the GOP, they will be in full agreement with you, Don2. But God help you if you dare
            criticize the “Anointed One” and his Nazi-party; then there will be hell to pay. :)

          • Don 2

            The day that I stop criticizing the Great Destroyer Marxist Muslim in the WH is not on my agenda.

          • Vazir_Mukhtar

            Don 2, I hope you spend little time in your criticizing. All of us have so little time that you might want to consider whether you are putting yours to the best use.

          • Don 2

            What do you suggest Vasir, that everyone get in line with the liberal lamestream press of the last 5 years and give the Great Destroyer a pass on everything? Get a grip man!

        • LINDITA

          AS PEOPLE, NOBODY BELIEVE WHAT THE “TROUBLEMAKERS” ARE SAYING. JEB BUSH IS A REAL LEADER FOR AMERICAN PEOPLE. WITH HIM WILL BE WINNER EVERYBODY EXCEPT CHARLATANS, THIEF, SABOTEURS, TRAITORS, LIARS, MEN WHORE AND DEGENERATES FEMALE. AMEN!

      • WTS/JAY

        Don’t be so sure about that, Karolyn, we got Obama, didn’t we?

      • LINDITA

        AS PEOPLE, AUTOMATICALLY “KAROLYN” WENT TO AMERICA’S ENEMIES. NOT JUST THIS BUT, WHO IS WORKING UNDERGROUND TO LIVE A BUSH FAMILY IN SHADOW FROM BOTH PARTIES ESPECIALLY REPUBLICANS ARE GOING AUTOMATICALLY TO AMERICA’S ENEMIES. THIS IS A TEST TO KNOW OUR ENEMIES.

    • Carlucci

      Oh, God no – !! The Bush family are awful people. I hope you are kidding, “Lindita”. Read the truth about that family and hopefully you will be shocked out of your ignorance about them.

      • WTS/JAY

        I totally agree, Carlucci! Here’s a good source that exposes the Bush family in graphic detail…btw, Jeb Bush was in charge of the security detail for the twin towers prior to 911. Coincidence?

        http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/

      • LINDITA

        AS PEOPLE, PATRIOT BUSH FAMILY ARE AWFUL FOR CORRUPTED PEOPLE AND BEAUTIFUL FOR AMERICAN PEOPLE. WANT OR WON’T TALIBAN. THE GOD SAID THE FUTURE BELONG TO AMERICANS WITH COMPETENT POLITICIAN RELIABLE CAPABLE ECONOMIST JEB BUSH. AMEN!

        • WTS/JAY

          I love your spirit, Lindita!

      • smilee

        True but far better than any other suggested with the possible exception of Christy

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          And a whole heck of a lot better than anyone the libturds and progturds have. Here is an article where up to 20 states are calling for secession after the crap with Obama bin Laden Care.

          http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/10/call-civil-war/

          See what your ilk is doing to this great country? Your ilk only want the complete destruction of this great nation. If you and your ilk don’t like this country the way we were founded to be, then get out. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.

          “If a man does his best, what else is there?”

          General George S. Patton, Jr.

    • Motov

      No more shrubs please,… We had enough.

      • LINDITA

        AS PEOPLE, WE DON’T HAVE NOBODY FROM RELIABLE ROYAL BUSH FAMILY. THAT’S WHY AMERICA AND ALL THE WORLD IS INVOLVED IN A TALIBAN MESS. ALL THE BUSH FAMILIES FROM THE YONG TO THE ELDERLY MUST BE IN THE WHITE HOUSE. IT’S A TIME’S REQUEST. SAFE, AGAIN. AMEN!

  • Bob666

    Breaking from Newsmax.com

    Pew Poll: GOP Sours on
    Tea Party

    The tea party’s popularity has fallen
    dramatically among Republicans, while Texas Sen. Ted Cruz’s standing among tea party supporters has skyrocketed, a new poll finds.

    According to the latest Pew Research Center
    survey, only 27 percent of moderate and liberal Republicans view the tea party favorably, a dramatic decrease from 46 percent in June.

    In the poll taken from Oct. 9-13 of 1,504
    adults, nearly half of respondents overall, 49 percent, said they also have a
    negative view of the tea party. Only 30 percent said they have a positive view,
    which was down from 37 percent in Pew’s June poll.

    • Don 2

      If the MSM spent half as much time telling the truth about how Obamas’ policies are destroying America, Obamas’ poll numbers would be a minus.

      • Bob666

        So you consider Nesmax-MSM media Don?

        • Don 2

          This was a Pew Research survey. That suggests that a number of people were polled, who receive their information from a variety of resources. Newsmax simply ran the Pew poll.

          I’m curious. From the one sentence statement that I made, how did you come to your conclusion/question about whether or not I consider Newsmax-MSM media?

          • Bob666

            Because Newsmax is the source that I cited?

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Why do you just report about the GOP and Tea Party, but ignore the democrats numbers sinking as well? Here is an article about newspapers and Obama bin Laden Care.
      http://www.hotair.com/archives/2013/10/16/so-which-newspaper-is-going-to-file-wh-quietly-thinking-about-delaying-obamacare-story/
      This is a possibility, since the program is large, complicated, difficult to understand, and unconstitutional. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “It has been my pleasure on each returning Sabbath, to hold up before my enlightened audience the cross of Jesus, all stained with the blood of Him that hung upon it, as the only hope of the perishing.”
      Septimus Tuston
      Chaplain, University of Virginia

      • Bob666

        Pretty Simple answer to that Sammie,
        People like you live in your own little world of denial. Your first response to me when I started posting the polls were that I had the numbers backwards and the Tea Party was winning.

        Then you posted a poll with out any references what so ever to try and refute what I was posting. I deal with facts Sammie, not wishful thinking. One can’t solve a problem until you identify the problem and admit that you have a problem.

        If the Tea party stays on this track-you will all but guaranty a another democrat in the white-house in 2016

  • Karolyn

    This may be off-topic, but I just wanted people to see this story about the tea party congressman who has his 10 kids signed up for Medicaid, which he opposes. Can you say hypocrite?

    http://gawker.com/tea-party-republican-defends-being-on-medicaid-while-op-1446552792

    • Ried

      I see them on TV all the time, Reid, Pelosi, Obama, Holder, Hilary, McCain, etc.

      • Karolyn

        I was talking about the holier-than-thou tea party congresspeople. I am fully aware of many other democrats as well as republicans. The point is the tea partiers are supposed to be so very against government assistance.

        • Stuart Shepherd

          The witch has spoken. Probably a lesbian.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Forgive Karolyn. It’s the fault of that damn magic mirror who keeps telling her she is the fairest of them all.

          • Karolyn

            Apparently you approve of Stuart’s language, Dave. Language which you are fully aware that I never use. I made a perfectly appropriate remark, and I did not stand up for anybody on the other side. Why would pointing out a failing of a supposed fiscally responsible tea partier give you a problem?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Karolyn says — “Apparently you approve of Stuart’s language, Dave”.
            You came to that conclusion how, Karolyn?

            Karolyn says — “Why would pointing out a failing of a supposed fiscally responsible tea partier give you a problem?”.
            You pointed out a failing, Karolyn? I must have missed that. All I saw was your misuse of the word “hypocrite”.

          • Karolyn

            Collett is using a program he wants to see dismantled. Is that not being a hypocrite?
            You did respond to Stuart’s comment, thus giving it credibility.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            NO, using a program he wants dismantled is not hypocrisy.
            He would be a hypocrite if he criticized other people for “using” the program. Do you know the difference between supporting (or not) a program and using it?

          • Karolyn

            My, aren’t we articulate! And what difference would it make if I were a witch and//or lesbian?

          • Ron

            Karolyn…if you were a witch that is demonic and or evil in our world, so you’re on the bad guys side…..if you were a lesbian then you are not intelligent enough to make sound decisions for the well being of others because of the lifestyle you choose…if i was a hypocrite i would criticize your lifestyle and choices you make ..but i would watch the 2 of you in bed

          • Karolyn

            Ha! Ha! But how does lesbianism have anything to do with the well being of others?

          • Ron

            the effect the sin has on society… look at our country and the world today, no morals, no shame..politicians that vote for same sex marriage or abortion for example..should not be in a position of authority/leadership making decisions for you and me and yet read the posts here and you can see why this world is in dire straights! So you may think there is nothing wrong with lesbianism, same sex marriage, abortion..but none of these are good for society and especially when it is forced upon us by gov’t. Obama claims to be Christian, and no Christian would agree with the lifestyle or even abortion or they really aren’t Christian!!!

          • Karolyn

            Not everyone is Christian. Should everybody else’s beliefs be negated? Should we just have a fascist Christian government? Homosexuals are human beings just like everybody else. A majority believe in God and are Christian. This world is in such dire straights because of the negativity, hatred, greed and dissension. Nobody is forcing anything on anybody except extremists on any front.

          • Ron

            You believe whatever you want..but when your beliefs have to do with forcing me to accept your sinful, evil, socialistic, destructive lifestyles, then i have to call you on that!!! We shld have a “Christian society”, that is are euphoria. Your euphoria is all of the above…we should just accept everyone for what or who they are..and you think that is good for society! Homosexuals are NOT just like everybody else…you are blind and confused!! And if you believe the majority believe in God and are Christian..that is as hypocritical as you can get!!! This world is in such dire straights because of the evil thrust upon us and evil that your liberalism accepts as the norm!! Your Euphoria!!! I believe in God and the Bible…and yes, Jesus will return and set up this Christian society you don’t like, but it won’t matter because all this evil you accept in your life, you will not be around to enjoy it…you will have your euphoria planning a bbq with satan!!!!

          • Karolyn

            Each to his own. I believe there is no hell anyway, other than the hell we make for ourselves here on earth. So glad I have an open mind and accept people for who they are.. All that anger and hate mist be exhausting.

          • Ron

            no anger..no hate….just know the difference from right and wrong…amazing how you libterds perceive things and twist them to satisfy your desire for everyone to believe in your medicated euphoria and then to say you have an “open mind”… just proves the point that you all are blind and confused and you will never convince anyone that you aren’t wrong!! Have a good one!

          • Karolyn

            I’m not a liberal; I’m a libertarian.

          • Deerinwater

            An unruly tongue and a undisciplined mind, ~ is defeated person looking for attention.

          • WTS/JAY

            Who should be credited with the above quote, Deer?

        • Ried

          And I was talking about the holier than thou progressive liberals. I think the British would say “Tit for Tat.”

          • Karolyn

            I was not refuting what you posted! Geez! I have no love for several of the people you posted.

        • Don 2

          Karolyn,
          The Tea Party is getting a false rap as usual. Most do not have a problem with helping those in actual need of help, as opposed to those milking the system, simply because they can. Consider S.S. Disability for instance, where you have judges who admit to having never denied any applicant, or firms like Binder & Binder who have recently admitted that they know that 50% of the people that they represent are faking it. Now consider that S.S. Disability is expected to run out of funds in 2016. Are these issues expected to resolve themselves if everyone simply ignores them?

    • Stuart Shepherd

      You’re an anal opening, Karolyn.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Why is that a hypocrite, Karolyn? If we pay for a service, willingly or not, we have every right to use that service. He would be a hypocrite if he admonished others not to take the welfare that is offered to them. I don’t see any evidence of that.
      I would like to see Social Security ended for willing young people, but I certainly wouldn’t expect the folks, who already paid in, not to take it.

      • Karolyn

        Then why is it you’ve attacked me in the past for using government assistance and for being an AmeriCorps volunteer? It was a couple of years ago, but I do remember it. I’ve paid taxes my whole life too.
        The point is he is against government programs.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Because, Karolyn, you were promoting Government assistance. You really don’t get it do you?
          Promoting Government largess is bad.
          Voting for Government largess is bad.
          Taking what is given to you is something almost any human would do, although for sure I would have a higher opinion of somebody who would forgo that taking out of Principle.

    • JeffH

      K, here is a case of you not doing your homework but instead running with the liberal/progressive headline that Greg Collett is a hypocritical “Tea Party” congressman.

      Well, I searched high and low and the only people linking Collett to the Tea Party are the leftist/progressive rags putting out the story. Why am I not surprised that you would take them at their word without checking out the story.
      http://www.gregcollettforidaho.com/nbc-news-article

      This Idaho Tea Party Cheer website only lists Collett, along with a bunch or other mixed party candidates as the (R) running in Idaho District 11.
      http://teapartycheer.com/idaho/idaho-candidates/idaho-2012/id-republican-primary-state-representative/

      • Karolyn

        Mea culpa. I should have. Maybe he is ONLY a Republican, but he is still a hypocrite.

        • JeffH

          K, Why is he a hypocrit?

          • WTS/JAY

            Do you suppose K is being the pot calling the kettle black, JeffH?

          • JeffH

            Ya think?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! Is it possible for Ted Cruz to run for president? Here is an article that describes that possibility.

            http://www.eaglerising.com/2298/can-ted-cruz-president/

            I would vote for him, if he could run for election. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

            “Every government requires impeachment. Every man ought to be accountable for his conduct. Impeachment will be not only the means of punishing misconduct that it will prevent misconduct. A man in public office who knows that there is no tribunal to punish him may be ready to deviate from his duty, but if he knows there is a tribunal for that purpose, although he may be a man of no principle, the very thought of punishment will perhaps deter him.”

            James Iredell
            Governor of North Carolina
            SCOTUS justice appointed by George Washington
            Devout Christian

          • Karolyn

            Don’t you think taking advantage of something you are against is being a hypocrite?

          • WTS/JAY

            I believe DaveH already answered your question, Mrs. Pot:

            “Why is that a hypocrite, Karolyn? If we pay for a service, willingly or not, we have every right to use that service. He would be a hypocrite if he admonished others not to take the welfare that is offered to them. I don’t see any evidence of that.I would like to see Social Security ended for willing young people, but I certainly wouldn’t expect the folks, who already paid in, not to take it.”

            Capish, Mrs. Pot?

          • JeffH

            Did you read his response to having been labeled a hypocrite and being subjected to an overwhelming level of hatred and vitriol?
            http://www.gregcollettforidaho.com/nbc-news-article

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      This does not make the person a hypocrite. I know many people, here in Elkhart, that currently receive welfare payments. None of them like receiving welfare, nor do they wish the government to have such a program, but they need it to buy food and pay bills. This does not make them hypocrites. I’m sure that they would rather be working. Here are 2 articles about Obama bin Laden.
      http://www.westernjournalism.com/judge-jeanine-obama-showing-true-colors-government-shutdown/
      http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamas-impeachment-trial-war-crimes/
      Let’s start on his impeachment and bring him to trial for Benghazi, the unconstitutional attack on Libya, killing innocent people with drones, etc. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “Affliction brings out graces that cannot be seen in a time of health. It is the treading of the grapes that brings out the sweet juices of the vine; so it is affliction that draws forth submission, weanedness from the world, and complete rest in God. Use afflictions while you have them.”
      Robert Murray McCheyne

      • smilee

        Sammie, The Propaganda Kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth….

        • WTS/JAY

          smelly, Obama’s illiterate b*tch is trolling again!!!!

  • Karolyn

    This is nothing but the usual conjecture. Just WAR guessing at Obama’s life.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      That could be Karolyn,but he has more info on his life than I do. Ergo, I’ll take his word for it, unless you have information to the contrary. Here is an article about our country and Obama bin Laden.

      http://www.eaglerising.com/2311/president-obama-punishment-past-sins/

      Sook Young says hello. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

      “A pint of sweat will save a gallon of blood.”

      General George S. Patton, Jr.

  • Chuckb

    Does anyone have the slightest doubt why Barry hasn’t been disclosed for what he is. Every black in the country plus the majority of Democrats don’t care what or who he is, he’s black and he’s a Marxist. If Barry was dethroned for his fraudulent coverup, we would have anarchy in every large city in the country.and we know the Republicans don;t have anyways near the bravado it would take to Impeach this clown.

  • JeffH

    Talk about conspiracy theorists…mirror ignorant progressives…mirror!

    Just admit it jeff, you liberal/progressive ignoramuses just don’t like anyone that doesn’t agree with you…and the POTUS!

    Liberals’ Accusations Against Koch Brothers Are Classic Examples of Projection

    The [current] urge to demonize the Koch brothers is not just about attacking organizations or politicians that have received donations from them (in the case of Wisconsin governor Scott Walker, the amount is minimal), it’s also about creating a distraction from the fact that the American left in actuality is largely the creature of a handful of billionaires like George Soros, Bill Gates, Peter Lewis, Steve Bing, and Herbert M. Sandler. For all their bluster about “corporations” funding the right, it is wealthy fat cats who fund the left.
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-sheffield/2011/03/03/liberals-accusations-against-koch-brothers-classic-case-projectio

    • Vis Fac

      The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that
      they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so. – Ronald Reagan

      I’ve never been able to understand why a Republican
      contributor is a ‘fat cat’ and a Democratic contributor of the same amount of money is a ‘public-spirited philanthropist’. Ronald Reagan

      “Liberal Double Standards”

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

      • JeffH

        ‘Bout sums it up…”Liberal Double Standards”

    • JeffH

      You lefty dolts don’t like ’em because they choose to contribute to a variety of conservative, libertarian, and free-market individuals and organizations.

      You don’t like them because they’re polar opposites of the progressive movement you and your ilk so adore and the idea that they are committed to free societies and free market principles and support those who champion these things.
      – source Wikipedia

    • Jeff

      Bill Gates is a left winger? Why, because he spends money on curing disease in the 3rd world? The difference is that people who advocate for the poor are not personally benefitting thereby. George Soros isn’t seeking personal gain by advocating for a living wage or universal healthcare or any of the other causes you guys hate so much.

      • JeffH

        Living in your little nutshell you’ll never be able to understand the difference between what’s good for America and what’s bad for America.

        Bill Gates and Unicef kill another eight kids with their 5-in-1 vaccine
        http://therefusers.com/refusers-newsroom/bill-gates-and-unicef-kill-another-8-kids-with-their-5-in-1-vaccine/
        Gates supports, believes in and promotes eugenics around the world.

        Bill Gates Promotes Corporate Takeover of Global Agriculture – the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation purchased 500,000 shares of Monsanto stock valued at over $23 million.
        http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/bill-gates-promotes-corporate-takeover-of-global-agriculture/#

        Soros: Republic Enemy #1 – Illegal Market Manipulation, Felony Insider Trading, Villain, Currency collapses

        George Soros was a Hungarian jew and a friend to the Nazi’s, helping his Nazi’s “father” confiscate property from the Jewish population. To this day he feels no guilt or remorse.
        http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14700

        Now look in the mirror Unhinged Jeff…you’ll see exactly what you accuse staring back at you.

        • Jeff

          I really couldn’t care less what a Nazi like you thinks. You guys defend actual Nazis who deny the Holocaust, then try to blame George Soros for surviving as a kid. Go shoot something; it always makes you feel better about yourself.

          • JeffH

            It’s obvious you “don’t care”…no surprise here.
            Unhinged Jeff, you’re defending Soros, who embraced the Nazis, with a blind and rediculous lie.

          • Jeff

            He never embraced the Nazis, you lying tool. He did what he had to to survive as a 14 year old. You want to claim you’d have done something different? Go ahead and fool yourself. Meanwhile, the right wing of the Republican Party openly proclaimed that first we should leave the Nazis alone and then that we should have fought with them against the Soviets. Blame Soros if it floats your boat but anti-Semitism was powerful even in this country until at least the 1960s. I’ve known people who were denied jobs after fighting in the War because of religion.

          • JeffH

            Keep believing that Unhinged Jeff…you’ve bought into the whole progressive playbook so why leave that one out.
            FYI, you’re babbling again!

    • WTS/JAY

      Less Known Facts – about Bill Gates

      1. Bill Gates earns US$250 every SECOND, that’s about US$20 Million a DAY and US$7.8 Billion a YEAR!

      2. If he drops a thousand dollars, he won’t even bother to pick it up because during the 4 seconds he picks it, he would’ve already earned it back.

      3. The US national debt is about 5.62 trillion dollars, if Bill Gates were to pay the debt by himself; he will finish it in less then 10 years.

      4. He can donate US$15 to everyone on earth but still be left with US$5 Million for his pocket money.

      5. Michael Jordan is the highest paid athlete in US. If he doesn’t drink and eat, and keeps up his annual income i.e. US$30 Million, he’ll have to wait for 277 years to become as rich as Bill Gates is now.

      6. If Bill Gates was a country, he would be the 37th richest country on earth.

      7. If you change all of Bill Gate’s money to US$1 notes , you can make a road from the earth to moon, 14 times back and forth.But you have to make that road non-stop for 1,400 years, and use a total of 713 BOEING 747 planes to transport all the money.

      8. Bill Gates is 40 this year. If we assume that he will live for another 35 years, he has to spend US$6.78 Million per day to finish all his money before he goes to heaven.

      Last but not the least:

      9. If Microsoft Windows’ users can claim US$1 for every time their computers hang because of Microsoft Windows, Bill Gates will be bankrupt in 3 years.

  • Stuart Shepherd

    You are correct, Mr. root, but the birth certificate IS forged, as well. There is more than ample proof of this by the most expert witnesses. The reason is that Obama’s father was really Frank Marshall Davis (1905-87), a
    literal card-carrying member of the Communist Party—Party number 47544 throughout the 1970’s when he was a mentor to a young Barack Obama. At the time of Obamas conception (and birth), however, he was a pornographer and intimately associated with Obama’s mother enough to, at least, take risque photos which are in the public domain. He bears almost identical resemblance to Obama, while Obama sr shares little, if any other than his race, and was NOT in the US at the time of Obamas conception! Appearances, especially physical, do not lie and absolutely anyone could tell that davis is the father. his name was possibly on the birth certificate, but, in any case, the birth certificate is forged. Obama was born in Hawaii and he applied for and received funds at Columbia as foreign-born.

  • Sarah417

    Who cares WHERE he was born? Who cares WHO he is? Who cares what he once did in college? What is really important is WHAT HE IS DOING NOW to America.

    Mr. Root you took law in college why don you have OBAMA IMPEACHED. Isn’t there someone out there smart enough to rid our country of this inhuman piece of garbage. I’ve had enough of this game playing.

    • Vis Fac

      Only congress can sue for impeachment there aren’t any congress people with the spine to initiate impeachment proceedings lest they appear to be racist. Nixon and Clinton were impeached for far less malfeasance. however they were/are white.

      ODUMBO has a safety net consisting of the media Banksters and the blacks. I would have said unions but they are starting to do the DC shuffle.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Well said and keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! Here is an article about one of the many Muslim friends of Obama bin Laden. It seems he approves of the beheadings in the Middle East and is encouraging American Muslims to do the same to “infidels.”
      http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/10/al-shabab-justifies-jihad-beheading-urges-western-muslims-make-choice-today-follow-footsteps-hasan-merah-abhulmutallab/
      If I know anyone doing these things, or trying to attempt it, I’ll get them first before the police do. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “It is quite different from the nature of the judiciary’s office to make them faces of the policy of public measures.”
      Eldrige Gerry

      • smilee

        Sammie, The Propaganda Kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth.

        • WTS/JAY

          smelly, Obama’s illiterate b*tch is trolling again!!!

  • Karolyn

    here’s an interesting table showing the national debt since the beginning.

    http://cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm

    • Vis Fac

      One Hundred Dollars $100 – Most counterfeited money denomination in the world. Keeps the world moving.

      Ten Thousand Dollars 100 $100 bills $10,000 – Enough for a great vacation or to buy a used car. Approximately one year of work for the average human on earth.

      One Million Dollars
      $1,000,000 – a pile measuring 10″x8″x9″ not as big a pile as you thought huh? Still this is 92 years of work for the average human on earth.

      One Hundred Million Dollars $100,000,000 – Plenty to go around for everyone. Fits nicely on an ISO / Military standard sized pallet. 30″x30″x 40″

      One Billion Dollars $1,000,000,000 – ten palates of the above $100 million You will need some help when robbing the bank. Now we are getting serious!

      One Trillion Dollars $1,000,000,000,000 When the U.S government
      speaks about a 1.7 trillion deficit – this is the volumes of cash the
      U.S. Government borrowed in 2010 to run itself. Keep in mind it is double stacked pallets of $100 million dollars each, full of $100 dollar
      bills. You are going to need a lot of trucks to freight this around.
      If you spent $1 million a day since Jesus was born, you would have not spent $1 trillion by now…but ~$700 billion – same amount the banks got during bailout.

      One Trillion Dollars Comparison of $1,000,000,000,000 dollars to a standard-sized American Football field and European Football field.
      larger than the space needed to park a Boeing 747-400 transcontinental airliner that’s filling the football field

      15 Trillion Dollars $15,000,000,000,000 – US national debt (credit bill) has just topped the 15 trillion 2 months before Christmas 2011.
      Fills up two football fields to a height of the Statue of Liberty’s left shoulder from the base The Statue of Liberty seems rather worried as United States national debt passes 20% of the entire world’s combined GDP (Gross Domestic Product). In 2011 the National Debt will exceed 100% of GDP, and venture into the 100%+ debt-to-GDP ratio that the European PIIGS have (bankrupting nations).

      $ 114.5 Trillion Dollars $114,500,000,000,000. – US unfunded liabilities
      To portray this we’d need a show a pillar of cold hard $100 bills that dwarfs the WTC & Empire State Building – both at one point world’s tallest buildings. Dwarfing the Statue of Liberty.

      The 114.5 Trillion dollar super-skyscraper is the amount of money the U.S. Government knows it does not have to fully fund the Medicare, Medicare Prescription Drug Program, Social Security, Military and civil servant pensions. It is the money USA knows it will not have to pay all its bills.

      If you live in USA this is also your personal credit card bill; you are responsible along with everyone else to pay this back. The citizens of USA created the U.S. Government to serve them, this is what the U.S. Government has done while serving the People.

      The unfunded liability is calculated on current tax and funding inputs, and future demographic shifts in US Population.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

  • David Humberson

    I was disconnected from face book because i called a obama supporter an antiamerican just another point taken away from what i support nsa is watching us and if you against obama care they know and this is prissydents way of controll need help bad please

    • Vis Fac

      After being told these threads aren’t being monitored some of my messages have been deleted. I have apparently irked someone who cannot stand the truth. Most like SMELLY complained to the teacher as the posting in question was directed at him. So much for my first amendment rights on this libertarian forum !!! Might as well Be a liberal forum.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        There are various reasons for disappearing comments, but one I have encountered results because your browser stores certain information from a website, so unless you hit the reload button, you won’t get the most current information. Another issue occurs when you have a particular comment address in your browser address field. It appears to me that the comments posted later than that comment will not appear.

        • Vis Fac

          Is that why there is a notation that “this comment has been deleted” in the place where one once was and someone had responded? I think not! There is a moderator who has a bug up his butt deleting what he thinks is inappropriate. So again I say our first amendment rights are being usurped by those claiming to hold our rights as sacred.

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • Bob666

            Yo Force,

            “There is a moderator who has a bug up his butt deleting what he thinks is inappropriate. So again I say our first amendment rights are being usurped by those claiming to hold our rights as sacred”.

            I could not agree with you more. That being said, we are guest here and Bob Livingstone makes the rules. We are in his house and have a clear choice to be her or go elsewhere.

          • Vis Fac

            Comment Policy: We encourage an open discussion with a wide range of viewpoints, even extreme ones, but we will not tolerate racism, profanity or slanderous comments toward the author(s) or comment participants. Make your case passionately, but civilly. Please don’t stoop to name calling. We use filters for spam protection. If your comment does not appear, it is likely because it violates the above policy or contains links or language typical of spam. We reserve the right to remove comments at our discretion.

            It appears some can say what they want and others can’t. We all know there is “name calling” here even profanity so and I say again selective enforcement aka usurpation of first amendment rights.

            So peddle your wares elsewhere

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Bob666

            Force,
            go back and read my post again.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You left out that little factoid, Force. I can’t read minds (yet). This is a private website and Bob can set whatever rules he wants. As it is, though, he is amazingly tolerant. I would have thrown KG out a long time ago, as he is intentionally subversive and has nothing beneficial to add to the conversation. Sleepee is heading in that same direction, but he is good for comic relief.

          • Vis Fac

            I wouldn’t throw ANYONE out for if we are a true republic everyone would have a say so. KG is entitled to his opinion and I am entitled to tell him to fly a kite if I want. No one (in theory) is better than anyone else we should all be treated the same. In the end I am a “big boy” and if I cannot take the heat I should remove myself from the kitchen! Conversely I will not allow myself to be assailed without retaliation something that happens here in these threads.

            I agree with the comic relief as I view all liberal tenet comical Frustrating and stupid but most often comical in their so called logic.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Bob666

            Yo Dave,
            Thanks for backing me up, this is Bob’s house and Bob’s rules.

  • David Humberson

    I am against obama care because of our 1st amendment

  • WTS/JAY

    SOMETHING REALLY BIZARRE HAPPENED ON THE HOUSE FLOOR AFTER VOTE ON BUDGET DEAL: ‘YOU CANNOT SERVE TWO MASTERS!’

    A screaming woman, reportedly a congressional stenographer, was removed from the House floor on Wednesday night following a vote on a bill to reopen the government and avert a potential default.

    As she is escorted out , the woman can be heard shouting out bizarre phrases and claiming that the Freemasons wrote the Constitution, and therefore the U.S. is not “one nation under God.”

    “They go against God!” the woman yells. “You cannot serve two masters. Praise be to God, Lord Jesus Christ!”

    Listen to the audio via Todd Zwillich below: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/16/something-really-bizarre-happened-on-the-house-floor-after-vote-on-budget-deal-you-cannot-serve-two-masters/

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Well said and keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! I’ll bet that scared the crap out of the libturds, progturds, and RINOS. Why? Because she was telling the truth and quoting the Bible. Here are some articles that show how far these wackos and traitors will go to get what they want.
      http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-unleashes-riot-police-vets-protesting-white-house/
      http://www.westernjournalism.com/riot-police-vs-veterans-wh/
      How much lower will the pretender go to force people to bow before his will? I’ll never do it. NEVER! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “The advantage of being armed is the advantage which the Americans posses over the people of almost every other nation. In the several kingdoms of Europe, governments are affraid to trust the people with arms.”
      James Madison
      Signer of the Constitution
      “Father of the Constitution”
      Framer of the 2nd Amendment
      4th President of the U.S.
      Devout Christian

      • smilee

        Sammie, The Propaganda Kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth!!!!!!!!

        • WTS/JAY

          smelly, Obama’s illiterate b*tch is trolling again!!

  • David Humberson

    Just because you are in the service doesnt mean you are for freedom if we are made to buy something then dictatorship is next

  • David Humberson

    libery of speech has been violated to me today

  • David Humberson

    another step of communism

  • RatedBestComment

    STAY away from WorldNetDaily the site run by Joseph Farah. HE WILL NOT let your comment be printed if you even describe Barry as a “foreigner”! You cannot even describe Barry as a “man/child”. This will also get your comment taken down.

    Yet it wasn’t too long ago Mr. Farah printed a narcissist column (yep, about himself) proclaiming he was the most “tolerant” fellow around.

    Natch, I can’t rebut that without getting kicked out again because they forbade me to even use the word “negro” to get my point across about his hypocrisy. You cannot even put asterisk on your words as they kick you out anyway. But you can kick “whites” around there and the comments get printed. So go figure!

    I am PERMANENTLY BANNED there because I use the proper word “negro” and not “black” (insulting term by definition lookup) which is not a race.

    But anyway, let me comment about those that call you “birthers”. These are coming from “poopers”. Yes, people that believe Barry came from an area other than the regular birth canal you and I came from so to them he does NOT need a birth certificate!

    Yeah, poopers. REMEMBER THAT!

  • RatedBestComment

    STAY away from WorldNetDaily the site run by Joseph Farah. HE WILL NOT let your comment be printed if you even describe Barry as a “foreigner”! You cannot even describe Barry as a “man/child”. This will also get your comment taken down.

    Yet it wasn’t too long ago Mr. Farah printed a narcissist column (yep, about himself) proclaiming he was the most “tolerant” fellow around.

    Natch, I can’t rebut that without getting kicked out again because they forbade me to even use the word “negro” to get my point across about his hypocrisy. You cannot even put asterisk on your words as they kick you out anyway. But you can kick “whites” around there and the comments get printed. So go figure!

    I am PERMANENTLY BANNED there because I use the proper word “negro” and not “black” (insulting term by definition lookup) which is not a race.

    But anyway, let me comment about those that call you “birthers”. These are coming from “poopers”. Yes, people that believe Barry came from an area other than the regular birth canal you and I came from so to them he does NOT need a birth certificate!

    Yeah, poopers. REMEMBER THAT!

  • WTS/JAY

    Ex-Navy SEAL Ben Smith Drops Bombshell On FOX: “Government Is CREATING Conditions To Impose Martial Law”

    Ex-US Navy SEAL Ben Smith joins Fox News and drops a bombshell on the US government by revealing that the government ITSELF is CREATING the conditions necessary to impose martial law here in America. This is a must watch video for those who feel martial law is merely believed by conspiracy theorists. Veterans and US Navy SEALS see the same thing!

    http://www.teapartytribune.com/2013/10/16/ex-navy-seal-ben-smith-drops-bombshell-on-fox-government-is-creating-conditions-to-impose-martial-law/

    Follow Ben on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SEALBenjaminSmith

  • RatedBestComment

    I re-read what WAR wrote. I think it is an interesting angle and it might be just the way it happened.

    It could explain why Rush never touched the birth certificate story. We need those school records. We need that BC in Hawaii.

    Everything about our government is a FRAUD. From money to this phony negro. Yeah, think about that…..

  • WTS/JAY

    Americans “Ready To Kill” Over Obamacare…

    Obamacare doesn’t officially kick off until January 1st, yet millions of Americans are already at each other’s throats over it.

    Research from the U.S. Census Bureau shows that the country is now more divided than any other time in history since the Civil War era. In fact, 20 states including Texas, Georgia and Louisiana have threatened to secede.

    And despite a recent Supreme Court ruling making Obamacare the law of the land, only 24 states are moving forward with a key aspect of Obamacare- the expansion of Medicaid. Of the rest, 21 are opposed and five are deadlocked in debate.

    So far, every single southern state from Texas to Virginia has refused to widen Medicaid, a key provision of the Obamacare program. This will leave millions of Americans without coverage. That’s because they make too much money to qualify for Medicaid as it now stands, but not enough to get the subsidies to buy insurance in the new exchanges.

    The South isn’t alone in rejecting Obamacare. Liberal states such as Maine have opposed the bill. Pennsylvania, Indiana, and Ohio have yet to move forward with the expansion.

    Even legendary investor Warren Buffett, a one-time Obamacare supporter, said in 2010 he would scrap the healthcare bill and start over.

    One of the main architects of the bill, Democratic Senator Max Baucus from Montana said Obamacare is heading for a “train wreck” if it’s not implemented properly.

    Obamacare Tax Hikes Stoke The Most Outrage…

    While even Obamacare detractors applaud the requirement that insurance companies cover pre-existing conditions and put a stop to lifetime caps on benefits, they say these laudable benefits don’t compensate for the bills high cost – especially in new taxes.

    According to most experts, Obamacare will create no fewer than twenty new taxes or tax hikes on the American people.

    In fact, the Obama administration has already given the IRS an extra $500 million to enforce the rules and regulations of Obamacare.

    The new taxes don’t bode well for millions of middle-class Americans. Incomes for the rich have soared this decade but middle class workers have seen their wages stagnate and even drop since the 2008 Great Recession.

    Many fear Obamacare with its high insurance costs and new taxes, could provide the middle class a fatal blow.

    The 20 new Obamacare taxes are making Americans eyes pop out in disbelief. Take a look.

    With January 1 quickly approaching, millions of Americans are asking what they can do to prepare for all the new costs, rules and regulations.

    One expert, Dr. Betsy McCaughey, a constitutional scholar with a Ph.D. from Columbia University, recently wrote a best-seller showing Americans how they can not only survive Obamacare, but prosper through it.

    McCaughey claims to be one of the only people in the country – including members of Congress – who has actually read the entire 2,572 page law.

    Her book, titled Beating Obamacare: Your Handbook for Surviving The New Health Care Law, breaks the huge bill down into 168 pages of actionable advice.

    The book, written in an easy going, easy to read style, shows some startling facts about Obamacare not seen in the mainstream press.

    For example, she points to a little known passage in the bill that shows how you could get slapped with a $2,000 fine for not having health insurance – even if you do actually have it.

    She also goes into detail explaining how a third of all U.S. employers could stop offering health insurance to their workers.

    In one chapter, she shows how ordinary Americans will get stuck paying for substance abuse coverage – even if they never touched a drink or drug in their life…

    read more: http://moneymorning.com/ob-article/obamacare-war.php?code=dis-oc-war

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Well said and keep up the good fight fellow patriot. Here are some more facts about national healthcare from other countries that Sook Young found on the internet.

      Canada: A human patient has to wait 2 years for hip replacement surgery, while his dog can have it in 3 days.

      Great Britain: Wives and mothers wait for over 2 months before receiving a follow up exam after testing positive on a pap smear.

      Sweden: The wait for an ordinary diagnostic heart x-ray can take up to 11 months.

      Austrailia: Where patients languishing on government dental waiting lists while their teeth rot away.

      There is no fixing or changing this thing, for it is too big and is incomprehensible. It just needs to be thrown out and never be allowed to rise up from the dead. If you support this pretender, his administration, and their policies, then you are unamerican. No quarter! No quarter! We really need to sweep the field of these cowards and traitors. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

      “The said Constitution should never be construed to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms.”

      Samuel Adams
      Signer of the Declaration of Independence
      “Father of the American Revolution”
      Devout Christian

  • WTS/JAY

    Top 50 reasons people keep comparing Obama to Hitler…

    As Democrats continue viciously crucifying anyone who disagrees with them as Klansmen, suicide bombers, anarchists and misogynists, anyone who dares to notice the similarities between ourConstitution-shredding Black Panther-in-chief and other racist dictators is still being met with the same hysterical shrieks, convulsions and fainting as always from the book-burning tyrant-worshipers of the left.

    But Obama’s lawless, un-American attacks on dissent, rigged elections and appalling crimes against the Constitution are overwhelming and unmistakable at this point, and more than warrant such comparisons.

    Here are the top 50 reasons that sensible people cannot help but make this painfully obvious connection:

    50) He blatantly violated bankruptcy laws to force through payoffs for unions.

    49) He tried to persecute George Zimmerman after he had been exonerated in a court of law.

    48) He illegally tried to force through invented taxes without Congress.

    47) He illegally took foreign campaign contributions.

    46) He illegally used tax dollars to fund partisan campaign events.

    45) He arbitrarily decided to pick and choose which parts of his disastrous health care take-over to enforce until after the election.

    44) He blatantly disregarded an order by a federal judge to stop illegally trying to shut down all American energy exploration.

    43) He illegally bypassed Congress to repeal wildly successful welfare reforms.

    42) He illegally refused to enforce drug sentencing laws.

    41) He protected illegal immigrants as they protested for more taxpayer-funded handouts on “closed” monuments, but then sent in federal police to attack law-abiding veterans for peacefully disagreeing with him…all while deliberately making the “shutdown” as painful as possible for the American people.

    40) He staged phony “investigations” into illegal NSA spying, appointing White House cronies to pretend to clear their own names.

    39) He appointed dozens of unaccountable “czars” and racist lunatics to influential posts without the Senate.

    38) He used his illegal health care takeover to force through obscene partisan payoffs for political allies.

    37) He blatantly violated federal energy laws.

    36) He exploded the national debt while demanding unlimited borrowing power for himself.

    35) He illegally spied on everyone but Muslims and terrorists.

    34) He tried to illegally seize treaty-ratifying powers from the Senate.

    33) He corrupted and politicized the Census Bureau for partisan gain.

    32) He illegally attacked a sovereign country (Libya) with zero authorization from Congress.

    31) He illegally ordered his Department of Justice to stop enforcing the Defense of Marriage Act.

    30) He made illegal “recess appointments” while the Senate was still in session.

    29) He illegally enforced legislation already struck down by the Supreme Court (Voting Rights Act).

    28) He illegally used the EPA to impose drastic, devastating environmental regulations rejected by Congress.

    27) He had his EPA create phony employees and email accounts to hide his administration’s conduct from the public.

    26) He criminalized being a conservative in the military.

    25) He publicly called out and persecuted private citizens who dared to donate money to his opponents.

    24) He illegally seized media phone records and targeted journalists who questioned him.

    23) He tried to sue Boeing into submission for daring to survive crippling union abuses by moving to a Right-to-Work state (South Carolina).

    22) He tried to prosecute Bush attorneys for daring to write legal opinions that he disagreed with.

    21) He used the EPA to hinder political opponents.

    20) He threatened the broadcasting license of a Pennsylvania station just for considering airing an ad on his extreme anti-gun record.

    19) He smears, insults and blacklists any news media outlet that actually questions him.

    18) He had HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius issue threats and order private companies not to criticize Obamacare or correctly link it to cuts in benefits.

    17) He sued the state of Arizona for daring to enforce the most lenient immigration laws on the planet.

    16) He illegally ordered private companies and religious institutions to violate their own beliefs and provide contraceptives free of charge to all female employees.

    15) He illegally forced through speech-trampling attacks on everyone but unions, without Congress.

    14) He imposed his illegal, economy-killing health care takeover on an unwilling public through open blackmail and bribery.

    13) He aggressively suppressed military votes.

    12) He illegally distributed farmers’ personal information to environmental fanatics for harassment and intimidation.

    11) He abused his power to have Romney donors “investigated.”

    10) He launched partisan IRS attacks on the Tea Parties, anti-abortion groups, and individual critics during a major national election.

    9) He granted himself the power to assassinate any American citizen he deems “associated” with terrorists without any due process.

    8) He launched repeated “investigations” against any state that dared to require free (or nearly free) state IDs for voting (to prevent rampant Democrat voter fraud–see here, here and here).

    7) He illegally instructed his DHS to stop enforcing our immigration laws while quietly crippling our ability to deport virtually anyone (to import millions of new Democrat voters)…which enablednumerous, entirely preventable rapes and murders against Americans for years.

    6) He refused to let his Attorney General prosecute armed Black Panthers who were caught on video openly intimidating voters at polling places on Election Day in 2008.

    5) He is an open racist.

    4) He deliberately abandoned American officials and citizens to be savagely murdered in the streets in Benghazi, erroneously blamed critics of Islam, apologized to the terrorists, and silencedwitnesses to cover it all up.

    3) He illegally armed barbaric Mexican drug cartels to stage gun violence that would prompt and legitimize his attack on the 2nd Amendment (which did eventually happen)…and had his administration lie repeatedly about Fast & Furious while vindictively retaliating against whistle-blowers and threatening ATF employees.

    2) He launched a blatantly illegal attack on our gun rights.

    1) He armed, aided, funded, supported and protected Islamic terrorists at every turn…and evenrecruited them to highly sensitive government posts.

    It goes on and on, and on…and on (especially when you consider that the 10th Amendment makes much of what the Federal Government does illegal in the first place, as explained here… http://www.examiner.com/articl

    Act like a fascist dictator, get compared to one. It’s that simple.

    http://www.teapartytribune.com

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      True that! True that! Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! Many of these things seem to come directly from Mein Kampf. This pretender is no patriot, but one who wishes to destroy this country from within. Here is an article describing how the people of Colorado are recalling another libturd/progturd from state office.

      http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/10/evie-hudak-faces-renewed-recall-effort-colorado/

      Let’s hope they are successful once again. Less libturds/progturds in office means less trash to take out. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

      “A knowledge of mankind and of legislative affairs cannot be presumed to belong in a higher degree to the Judges than to the Legislature.”

      Luther Martin
      Delegate to the Constitutional Convention
      Devout Christian

      *Boy our SCOTUS of today sure doesn’t fit this requirement.

      • smilee

        Sammie, The Propaganda Kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth!!!!

        • WTS/JAY

          Hey smelly, did you hear the two gangs in Washington made off with 30 billion dollars? If you make haste and go stand in front of the White-house, who knows, old Obamy may just throw some “change” your way, i “hope”. Lol!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            D’oh! :-) :-) :-) Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. No quarter! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

      • WTS/JAY

        Ignore the little twerp smelly, Sam.

    • VT Patriot

      I can’t help but wonder who the moron is that gave this a down arrow?? Does obozo read this post?

  • Bob666

    Tea Party’s Image Turns More Negative

    Ted Cruz’s Popularity Soars among Tea Party Republicans.

    The Tea Party is less popular than ever, with even many Republicans now viewing the movement negatively. Overall, nearly half of the public (49%) has an unfavorable opinion of the Tea Party, while 30% have a favorable opinion.

    The balance of opinion toward the Tea Party has turned more negative since June, when 37% viewed it favorably and 45% had an unfavorable opinion. And the Tea Party’s image is much more negative today than it was three years ago, shortly after it emerged as a conservative protest movement against Barack Obama’s policies on health care and the economy.

    In February 2010, when the Tea Party was less well known, the balance of opinion toward the movement was positive (33% favorable vs. 25% unfavorable). Unfavorable opinion spiked to 43% in 2011 after Republicans won a House majority and Tea Party members played a leading role in that summer’s debt ceiling debate.

    for more information, see

    http://www.people-press.org/2013/10/16/tea-partys-image-turns-more-negative/
    For those who can’t deal with reality, vote here.

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    • jaybird

      We don’t care, we are recruiting more people and teaching our children to be patriots. We are trying to save the low information Demo from themselves because it will be too late when they finally wake up if ever.

      • Bob666

        Yea Jay-Vulture,
        Keep telling your self that, Ra-Ra!

    • Me Again

      OBAMA AND DEMS HAVE BEEN SAYING THE TEA PARTY PEOPLE ARE NOT AMERICANS, OBAMA AND DEMS ARE NOT AMERICANS, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE GOP THAT ARE NOT AMERICAN, THEY WANT TO TAX SPEND AND DO EVERYTHING AGAINST THE PEOPLE. TEA PARTY IS NOT ABOUT SOCIAL THINGS THEY ARE ABOUT FISCAL POLICIES (MONEY) YOUR MONEY THE MORE THE GOVT LETS YOU KEEP THE BETTER OFF THE COUNTRY IS. GO ONLINE AND SEE OBAMA’S “2016” THE WHOLE COUNTRY LOOKS LIKE DETROIT, WELCOMETO OBAMA’S WORLD & FOR THOSE WHO PUT HIM BACK IN OFFICE, U NEED MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATIONS

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    Ah, yes. Another fine day and a good day to stoke the fireplace with libturd and progturd logs. I just love the smell of bacon (communist pigs) in the morning.
    There’s nothing like it. Keep up the good fight fellow patriots. No quarter! No quarter! Here are 2 articles about what the libturds and progturds want in America. Guaranteed it isn’t what our Christian founders wanted.
    http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/10/march-toward-utopia-progressives-call-progress/
    http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/10/coming-food-stamp-riots/
    If this is what they want America to look like, I’ll be keeping my firearm at arms length. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
    You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
    “To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.”
    Richard Henry Lee
    Signer of the Declaration of Independence
    Framer of the 2nd Amendment
    Devout Christian

    • smilee

      Sammie, The Propaganda Kid strikes again, spreading his lies and filth!

    • janna

      samurai
      you haven’t answered me yet
      Why in “Gods” name does one has to have faith in “God to be a patriot
      ( I assume that is the protestant “God” no Catholics please)
      been talking to burning bushes again ??
      I’ve said it before but will do so again
      I fear no “God” because there ain’t none
      but by “God” I so fear his/her messengers

      • VT Patriot

        Well, comes the day when you breathe your last breath, you better hope you’re right. Otherwise, get buried with a lot of marshmallows.

        Jes sayin..

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Argument to ridicule. All of our foundiong fathers were Christian and believed in God, Jesus, went by the Bible, and many other things. Though there is no law saying so, but this is what I know to be true. It seems you have never served and have no change of understanding what I am talking about. Just remember this:

        “The fool hath said there is no God within his own heart.”

        Psalms 14:1
        Psalms 53:1

        People, like your ilk, tend to be cowards, traitors, and members of the 5th column destroying this country. Just read what our Christian founding fathers said about God, Jesus, the Bible, and Christianity in their letters, journals, speeches, etc., and you tell me what they think. Now get thee hence, satan. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

      • JRJ21

        How long have you been in this coma?God founded America and all our rights come from him,ever read the Declaration of Independence?

        • Liberty2012

          Humans founded America. Not God. Humans also stole the land from the original people: The Native Americans.

          • john

            God gave the land to Christians and this even benefited the Indians who were here and involved in so much witchcraft the land vomited them out.Ever even read the DEC. OF INDEPENDENCE?It’s in the first verse.You must have been public schooled.Who did the “original”natives steal it from?It’s called manifest destiny,America founded on the principal that all power rest in the individual citizen and not the usual king or dictator,go find a dictator to cuddle if you don’t like it.

          • Liberty2012

            “God gave the land to Christians and this even benefited the Indians who
            were here and involved in so much witchcraft the land vomited them out.” Interesting. I’ve never read that anywhere before. Do you enjoy rewriting American history?

          • Liberty2012

            “God gave the land to Christians and this even benefited the Indians who
            were here and involved in so much witchcraft the land vomited them out.” Interesting. I’ve never read that anywhere before. Do you enjoy rewriting American history?

          • LINDITA

            AS PEOPLE, IF THE NATIVE AMERICAS WILL CONTROL AMERICA YOU WEREN’T ABLE USING A COMPUTER?…

      • Paul

        I feel for you, Janna. It must be really empty and hopeless to live a life without God. I think you are just a victim, like most people, desperately looking for a truth you cannot find. God is called by many names yet none of us know His true name.
        Do you believe there is good and evil in this world? If so, you believe in God and just don’t know it, yet. Don’t worry, the time is coming when we’ll ALL know the truth once and for all. I pray I am worthy enough to be next to you when the time comes; I will shed tears of joy with you.

        • Me Again

          IF NO ONE TELLS YOU ABOUT GOD YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND. IF THESE PEOPLE READ THE PAPERS OF THE FOUNDING FATHERS THEY WOULD KNOW THAT THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED “UNDER GOD” THE PAPERS OF THE FOUNDING FATHERS STATE THAT GOD SHOULD BE IN EDUCATION AND OUR EVERY DAY LIFE. MOST PARENTS DO NOT TEACH THEIR CHILDREN ABOUT GOD. “BLESSED IS THE NATION WHO GOD IS LORD”. READ THE 5000 YEAR LEAP, ABOUT THE FOUNDING OF THIS COUNTRY, ATLEAST EDUCATE YOURSELF, THEN IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE, OH WELL.

      • LINDITA

        AS PEOPLE, I BET IF YOU DON’T HAVE A ROOT IN PREDATORY TRIBE GREEK. LA,LA,LA….

      • Jeff Sambone

        Without faith in God, one does not have the will to die for what is right. The first thing authoritarian gov’ts do is declare a state religion and all others are illegal.

  • independent thinker

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  • Motov

    I believe Obozo was found under a rock somewheres on the Love Canal, He got his birth certificate from a bubblegum machine, and he is really Stalin reincarnated.

  • rbrooks

    old wayne is having another tent revival. all you need is belief and faith.

  • jaybird

    I doesn’t matter where he was born, he has committed felonies by using someone else’s SS# and messing with the draft registry card’s dates.

    He was raised around communist/socialist and when he entered college, Saudi Arabia started giving blacks in America money for their education. 1979 article in the St. Petersburg Evening Independent by Vernon Jarrett (Valerie Jarrett’s father in-law), look it up. It indicates that they might have paid for his edu. helped him get into Harvard and helped seal the records. The Saudi’s want Islam in America. they give to our colleges and we hire Muslim professors that indoctrinate our children. He owes them, so he appoints Muslim Brotherhood sympathizers to the FBI, DHS, Treasury, State Dept., Pentagon. If you had a chance to view the WH guest list for the Ramadan Dinner you would have seen some names and depts. He gave extra money to Morsi each month (aiding and abetting the enemy) besides the foreign aid to the Egyptian Army. There are a lot of lawsuits against this administration

    • Me Again

      I READ 6 YEARS AGO THAT THE SENATE HAD WRITTEN BILLS TO ALLOW OBAMA TO REMAIN PRESIDENT, THAT IS WHY THEY WANT TO TRY TO GET RID OF THE 22ND AMENDMENT, TO ALLOW HIMTO BEPREZ FOREVER.
      WE ALL KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON,SO MY QUESTION IS “ARE WE THE PEOPLE AT NUREMBURG THAT SAW WHAT WAS GOING ON, BUT DID NOTHING?” HITLER GOT BY WITH KILLING 8 MILLION JEWS BY DOING THE SAME THING. LYING, CHEATING, YOUTH ARMY, MILITARY DOING HIS BIDDING, AND PEOPLE BACKING HIM, THAT IS WHAT IS GOING ON HERE ESPECIALLY THAT THE MEDIA (THROUGH SOROS’ MONEY) IS CONTROLLING THE DEBATE. WE ARE NOW A DO NOTHING BUNCH OF COMPLAINERS!