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How Jimmy Carter Ruined America Twice

February 28, 2013 by  

 

Until Barack Obama came along, Jimmy Carter held the title “Worst President in U.S. History.” Now, Carter may have taken the title back. You would have thought he’d be satisfied with almost destroying the U.S. economy and almost breaking the spirit of our country once. But, no! Thirty-three years later, Carter is now instrumental in helping Obama finish the job he started.

As President from 1976 to 1980, Carter came close to wrecking our economy and our entire country. An ultra-liberal, politically correct do-gooder, just like Obama, Carter announced his Presidency would be dedicated to “compassion” and human rights. And, just as had happened during Obama’s tenure, the leftist gobbly-gook “feel-good philosophy” led to disaster.

The Carter nightmare included four years of crippling high unemployment, stagflation of 13.5 percent, unimaginable 21.5 percent interest rates, record gas prices, shortages and gas lines, a doubling of the deficit from $27 billion to almost $60 billion, U.S. embassy personnel in Iran held hostage, an unsuccessful hostage rescue attempt, the embarrassing decline of our military, and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. America almost did not survive Carter.

Along came a true patriot and American hero, Ronald Reagan, who turned Carter’s malaise and misery and the worst economy since the Great Depression into the greatest economic turnaround and expansion in world history. Reagan showed the world that America was indeed the “shining beacon on the hill.” Reagan made us great again and, by doing so, exposed Carter as an incompetent, ultra-liberal laughingstock. To make matters worse for Carter’s legacy, the U.S. hostages in Iran were released on Reagan’s Inauguration Day. Carter never forgave Reagan or America for leaving his reputation in tatters.

Carter wandered the wilderness for the past 33 years, growing more angry and bitter with each passing year. He took out his anger by embarrassing the United States and meddling in foreign affairs. He spent the past 33 years denouncing Israel, praising nations that supported Muslim terrorists, defying the U.S. travel ban to Cuba and praising tyrants like Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Yugoslavian dictator Josip Broz Tito and North Korean despot Kim Il Sung. He oversaw election fraud and corruption in Venezuela and Haiti and declared everything fair and square. The man has spent 33 bitter, disgraceful years venting his hatred for America.

Now, Carter has finally gotten his revenge. Angry at America’s success since Reagan, including those 40 million new jobs created since the early 1980s, Carter might be the man most responsible for Obama’s re-election, allowing him to continue the destruction Carter began all those years ago in 1976.

How did Carter help re-elect Obama? Mitt Romney was poised to do to Obama exactly what Reagan did to Carter. A brilliant businessman and turnaround specialist, Romney was the perfect man to again save America. He would have turned around this Obamageddon economy in two years with low taxes, reduced spending and smaller government — exactly how Reagan saved us from Carter. But along came that secret tape where Romney discussed “the 47 percent” of Americans who want government to give them checks and will vote for the politician who keeps the checks coming. The release of that tape was the beginning of the end for Romney. His reputation, likeability ratings and Presidential campaign never recovered.

Well guess who released that damaging tape? It was Carter’s grandson, Democratic operative Jimmy Carter IV, getting sweet revenge for Grandpa.

Carter’s grandson said: “I’ve been hearing all my life people making fun of my grandfather, or saying that he was a bad president, or things like that, and I’ve just gotten used to it. And it’s nice to be able to hit back.”

Upon seeing the tape of Romney’s remarks, the former President said in an email to his grandson: “James: This is extraordinary. Congratulations! Papa.”

It may not have been the only reason Romney lost, but it certainly did more damage to his campaign than anything Obama said in months of campaigning. And so, with the help of Carter’s grandson, history was changed. Instead of a modern-day Reagan, we got stuck with a second, disastrous term of a modern-day Carter. If Carter had been re-elected back in 1980, there very likely would never have been 40 million new jobs over the next 25 years. America’s military and economy probably never would have recovered, and we’d have a lower standard of living and gasoline prices of $8 per gallon — just like in the European socialist countries both Carter and Obama want America to emulate.

But thanks to Carter’s grandson, it’s Groundhog Day. Carter gets a do-over. We’re about to see what would have happened if we’d never elected Reagan and had given Carter a chance to finish the job of destroying America. We’re about to see if Obama can finish the job of destroying the U.S. economy in a second term — all in the name of tax and spend, compassion, fairness, social justice, and human rights.

Once Obama is done using Carter’s ultra-left policies to gain retribution and redistribution, I can imagine only that America will be a shell of its former self. America’s military will decline, the U.S. economy will continue in misery and malaise, inflation will return to unimaginable heights, debt will continue to rise, and gas lines and rationing will once again be part of our lives. America will be anything but exceptional.

Congratulations, Carter. It took 33 years and your grandson’s help, but you’ve finally gotten your revenge on the American people and American exceptionalism.

Sadly, just like a second term of Carter, I can promise you, this will not end well.

I’m Wayne Allyn Root for PersonalLiberty.com. See you next week. Same time, same place. That’s when I’ll present to you the solution, the perfect model to save America and the U.S. economy. Carter and Obama won’t like it. But it is proven to work. See you next week. God bless America.

Wayne Allyn Root

(W.A.R.) is a former Presidential candidate, the 2008 Libertarian Vice Presidential nominee, and a Libertarian-conservative national media star. His new book, “The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide” is a #1 national best-seller in bookstores, as well as an Amazon #1 Finance and Conservative bestseller. A former CNBC anchorman and host (then known as Financial News Network), Root is the ultimate Capitalist Evangelist: a blue-collar S.O.B. (son of a butcher) turned CEO, small businessman, serial entrepreneur, business speaker, and TV/radio commentator on the topics of business, economics, entrepreneurship, and politics. Root is a regular guest on Fox News, as well as on hundreds of conservative talk radio shows across the United States. His opinions reach tens of millions of Americans as a regular columnist and commentator for many of the most popular political and business websites, including FoxNews.com. He also writes regularly for The Washington Times. He is the bestselling author of eight books. Root serves as national spokesman for several companies, as well as a Senior Economic Advisor. Root is also well known in the television and media industries. He has hosted, starred and produced many television shows. Today, he is a producer of the highest-rated television show on Travel Channel. Because of his success in the diverse fields of business, media, sports, entertainment and publishing, Root was awarded his own 180-pound granite star in the Las Vegas Walk of Stars. Only 60 legends in the history of Las Vegas have received a star on Las Vegas Boulevard. A native New Yorker and graduate of prestigious Columbia University, this Capitalist Evangelist proudly resides in Nevada, a state with no income tax. His website is ROOTforAmerica.com.

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  • Jeremy Leochner

    Couple of things

    1: Carter cannot be blamed for the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

    2: Carter is the reason the hostages were released. Iran chose to wait till Reagan was inaugurated.

    3: There is a reason Romneys comment did so much damage. He labelled nearly half the country lazy and unwilling to take personal responsibility. And he included in that group military veterans, the elderly and the working poor. Romney destroyed himself. He needed no help from Carter. Romney was no Reagan.

    4: Yes how dare Obama care about things like “compassion, fairness, social justice, and human rights”.

    5: Mr. Root you do realize that the term “American exceptionalism” was created by Joseph Stalin. And if America is so exceptional why do you fear for her so much.

    • Vicki

      “In Marxism

      In June 1927 Jay Lovestone, a leader of the Communist Party in America and soon to be named General Secretary, described America’s economic and social uniqueness. He noted the increasing strength of American capitalism, and the country’s “tremendous reserve power”; a strength and power which he said prevented Communist revolution.[23] In 1929, the Soviet leader Joseph Stalin, disagreeing that America was so resistant to revolution, called Lovestone’s ideas “the heresy of American exceptionalism”[24]”

      That Stain was disapproving of American exceptionalism is enough reason alone for us to embrace the term. The concept predates Stalin by many many years
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism

      • JWZ!@#$890

        You go girl

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Yep, Vicki loves the mention of Joseph Stalin becuase it allows her to go off on one of her obfuscatory and distractatory sentence exercises. And, as I predicted, one of the mindless actually gives her a “you go girl”.

        Something I posted on another thread bears repeating here. Yes, America IS “exceptional” in many ways, some of them listed in this piece.

        AMONG INDUSTRIALIZED NATIONS, THE UNITED STATES HAS THE

        *highest poverty rate, both generally and for children
        *greatest inequality of incomes
        *lowest government spending as a percentage of GDP on social programs for the disadvantaged
        *lowest average number of days for paid holidays, annual leaves, and maternity leaves
        *lowest score on the United Nations index of “material well being of children”
        *worst score on the United Nations gender inequality index
        *lowest social mobility
        *highest public and private expenditure on health care as a percentage of GDP

        THESE TRENDS ARE ACCOMPANIED BY THE

        *highest infant mortality rate
        *highest prevalance of mental health problems
        *highest obesity rate
        *highest proportion of population going without health care due to cost
        *second lowest birth-weight for children per capita, behind only Japan
        *highest consumption of anti-depressants per capita
        *third shortest life expectancy behind only Denmark and Portugal
        *highest carbon dioxide emissions and water consumption per capita
        *second lowest score on the World Economic Forum’s environmental performance index, behind only Belgium
        *third-largest ecological footprint per capita, behind only Belgium and Denmark
        *highest rate of failure to ratify international agreements
        *lowest sppending on international development and humanitarian assistance as a percentage of GDP
        *highest military spending as a percentage of GDP
        *largest international arms sales
        *fourth worst balance of payments, behind only New Zealand, Spain, and Portugal
        *third lowest scores for student performance in math, behind only Portugal and Italy, and far behnd the top in science and reading
        *second highest high-school dropout rate behind only Spain
        *highest homicide rate
        *largest prison population per capita

        These deplorable consequences did not just happen as the result of economic and technological forces over which we have no control. They are the results of conscious political decisions made over several decades by both Democrats and Republicans who have had priorities other than strengthening the well-being of American society and our environment. Many countries, notably in Europe, took a different path, one that was open to us also. America may have invented the middle class, but while others improved on our grand idea, we let it slip away.

        James Gustave Speth, “We’re Number One”, Yes Magazine, March 22, 2011
        http://www.yesmagazine.org/people-power/on-american-superiority

      • nc

        Vicki, 1927 and America is wide open and running under unbridled markets! 1929 the bubble burst under Hoover and the economy goes to it’s knees! (SEE PICTURES OF SOUP KITCHENS AND APPLE SELLERS) !! !932 and in comes the biggest “socialist” in our history compared to the past Presidents! 1945, AFTER 12 YEARS OF THE “SOCIALIST” AND HIS POLICIES WE WERE THE NUMBER ONE NATION IN THE WORLD!!
        Could it possibly have been that the policies that the moss back CONSERVATIVE Republicans, then and now, call “socialism” were the policies that were needed to bring US back from soup kitchens and apple CARTS? You know, why the founding fathers said they were forming a “more perfect union” TO PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE( OF THE NATION) AND THE GENERAL WELFARE SURE AS HELL NEEDED SOME PROMOTING DURING THAT PERIOD! Times were so hard the Mississippi River did not run but 3 days a week and most businesses were not dong that well.

        We are still NUMBER ONE IN THE WORLD and have never had a true conservative President! That’s a pretty good argument for never needing one!

        PS: If you and Mr. Livingston are not embarrassed by Mr. Root’s insane rants then I am embarrassed for you and Mr. Livingston!

      • Dave67

        RBT,

        Your list will show the difference between a conservative and a liberal.

        A Conservative will use that list and say you hate America

        A Liberal will see that list as a challenge to make our country better.

        Too bad the Conservatives here will never get it.

      • Vigilant

        RBT, there are a number of difficulties with that list, or should I characterize it as a screed?

        First, consider the source.

        Yes! Magazines list board members and contributing editors reads like a Who’s Who of globalism, environmentalism and socialism.

        Interesting that you can hit the “subscribe” button as part of an ad on that site below the image of Van Jones saying “YES! Magazine is the most important publication in the US.”

        (http://www.yesmagazine.org/new-economy)

        That’s right. Van Jones, admitted communist.

        Second, the list assumes that globalist and social collectivist philosophies are the only way to go. Using the UN as a source is suspect to begin with.

        Playing with statistics is another (intended) fault. For example, “lowest government spending as a percentage of GDP on social programs for the disadvantaged” is a loaded statistic, belied by the fact that a whopping 62% of our annual budgets are devoted to social welfare as compared to less than 20% for military expenditure.

        Take also, “highest rate of failure to ratify international agreements.” Given the UN’s devotion to making the world one big socialist utopia through such agreements, I’d say that’s an admirable statistic. Of course, that’s a thorn in the side of the communists who would prefer the US give up its sovereignty (and Constitution) in favor of the misery that inevitably results from statist governments.

        Then we have, “lowest spending on international development and humanitarian assistance as a percentage of GDP.” I would challenge that prevarication to its face. The generosity of the American people and government during times of international tragedy are legend.

        Or perhaps, “lowest average number of days for paid holidays, annual leaves, and maternity leaves.” A more fitting call would have been “workers of the world, unite!” Such palaver bears witness to the bankrupt nature of socialism. We’ve seen the results of the hedonistic demands of labor unions in Europe in such places as Greece and France. And, glory be, someone failed to note that the relative laziness of European workers has given their countries chronically low GDP growth.

        I could go on. Suffice it to say that, while some statistics are valid on that long list, the lack of integrity and the political predispositions of the list builder make that list suspect from the outset.

        P.S. “Distractatory” is not a word, Mr. Administrator.

      • http://personalliberty 300 win. mag

        RBT, let’s blame the US for everything, it is such a bad place. Why are you still here and not in your beloved Europe? Most of what you stated is the fault of the parents not teaching their kids right from wrong, helping them to learn and giving them some sort of work ethic. Now they expect the government to give them everything. It is sad that we now demonize CEO’s, we should teach our children that one day they can become one. It sad that if someone works hard and gets ahead they are demonized. It is sad that we have a President flying around demonizing people for getting ahead, instead of trying to elevate all people to greatness. He should bring us together, not dividing us by income, race and age.

      • Vigilant

        “Could it possibly have been that the policies that the moss back CONSERVATIVE Republicans, then and now, call “socialism” were the policies that were needed to bring US back from soup kitchens and apple CARTS?”

        nc loves to perpetuate the stupidest of myths, but that’s nothing new for socialists and statists (one and the same).

        You’re wrong on TWO counts. (1) It was WWII and ONLY WWII that brought us out of the Depression, and (2) economists recognize that FDR’s socialist policies both lengthened and deepened the Depression.

        Not to forget, the Supreme Court ruled most of FDR’s socialistic programs as UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Vigilant takes umbrage at “the list” and talks of “difficulties”?

        First, let’s deal with his “P.S. “Distractatory” is not a word, Mr. Administrator”, because it has a direct relationship to the “difficulties” Vigilant has demonstrated in this comment. .

        It most certainly IS a word, Vigilant, along with evasivatory, obfuscatory, and one other one that slips my old and tired mind. I made the four of them up in response to that little “lesson” Vicki gave us a while back about the four types of sentences. They have roots that should be easily recognizable, I have used them a number of times, and they are FAR more valid than many of the trash words that are used by the mindless on this site. You are welcome to use them any time they suit your needs.

        There are a number of difficulties with Vigilant’s “screed”, the first and foremost that he has failed to see the forest for the trees. He has ignored the basic point behind the list and run into the forest to madly whack at a few of the trees.

        “Consider the source”, he says? Consider the implications of the CONTENTS of the article, I say in return. And none of it is news. Each of the things mentioned has been reported on extensively by a number of sources, both left and right. Why doesn’t Vigilant comment on the thoughts in the closing paragaph?

        “Yes! Magazines list board members and contributing editors reads like a Who’s Who of globalism, environmentalism and socialism”. And this is a surprise? What do the mastheads of conservative magazines read like?

        “Second, the list assumes that globalist and social collectivist philosophies are the only way to go. Using the UN as a source is suspect to begin with”. That’s opinion only there. Vigilant should access and read the whole article before he makes such assertions. (and try to do it with an open mind)

        Vigilant warms up on his frenzied chopping of a few trees with the old “Playing with statistics” complaint, and segues over into the “we will lose our sovereignty” horsepucky (with nice dollops of “Constitution”, the UN, and “statism”—meaningless but apparently obligatory)

        Vigilant really gets up on his soapbox with, “The generosity of the American people and government during times of international tragedy are legend”.
        Yes, the “generosity” of “the American People and government” needs to be reworked just a bit, perhaps? As in addressing these things here at home?

        *highest poverty rate, both generally and for children
        *greatest inequality of incomes
        *lowest score on the United Nations index of “material well being of children”
        *worst score on the United Nations gender inequality index
        *lowest social mobility
        *highest infant mortality rate
        *highest prevalence of mental health problems
        *highest obesity rate
        *highest proportion of population going without health care due to cost
        *second lowest birth-weight for children per capita, behind only Japan
        *highest consumption of anti-depressants per capita
        *third shortest life expectancy behind only Denmark and Portugal
        *highest carbon dioxide emissions and water consumption per capita
        *third-largest ecological footprint per capita, behind only Belgium and Denmark
        *third lowest scores for student performance in math, behind only Portugal and Italy, and far behind the top in science and reading
        *second highest high-school dropout rate behind only Spain
        *highest homicide rate
        *largest prison population per capita

        Vigilant again swings his axe without careful aim. “workers of the world, unite!”? Vigilant must be a member of the plutocracy and/or corporate oligarchy who wants to subjugate the worker and turn this country into a feudal state—he certainly talks like one when he says the worker’s desire to share in the wealth and prosperity of their labors makes the workers “hedonists” and “socialists”, and “lazy”. Don’t they have the same rights as the plutocracy to seek “happiness”?

        I’m sure Vigilant “could go on”—-too bad he didn’t do that. I would asks that all focus on what the “list” tells us about the country. Vigilant chose to attack it rather than do that, but of course his “political predispositions” have colored this comment from the outset.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        300 win. mag parrots the usual mindlessness with:

        Why are you still here and not in your beloved Europe?
        Most of what you stated is the fault of the parents
        Now they expect the government to give them everything
        It is sad that we now demonize CEO’s
        We have a President flying around demonizing people for getting ahead
        Dividing us by income, race and age.

        He has learned his lessons well and drained the last drop of Koolaid with all that.
        (PS—-didn’t Romney and the Repugs spend a billion dollars spouting this kind of stuff?)

        My favorite is “We should teach our children that one day they can become a member of the 1%, the greedy rich that are stealing from the 99%”. It’s sad that 300 winmag doesn’t see that is no longer true, that our children will be “lucky” if they don’t end up further down the ladder than us.

      • http://personalliberty 300 win. mag

        RBT, how are they stealing from us? Why do you think I drank all the the kool aid? All I am saying is we should be responsible for our selves. So that makes me evil? How so?

      • Jeremy Leochner

        My problem isn’t with American Exceptionalism Vicki. Its with those who claim America is so exceptional and then inexplicably go on and on about how in less than 5 years Obama has managed to destroy “the greatest, best country God has ever given man on the face of the earth”. That’s what I don’t understand. How we can be so great and at the same time be so easily destroyed.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        300 win. mag, I said “you drank all the koolaid” because of how you are “burping” all the tired old “talking points” back to us, starting with the VERY tired “If you don’t like it here, leave” which is about as mindless comment as can be made. It appears all too often on PLD when people can’t make a real argument.

        I too think we should all be “responsible for ourselves”. What disturbs me is that the 1% are making it harder for that to occur. The “middle class dream” of “anyone can make it big” is disappearing in America because the 1% have rigged the game in their favor. They are accumulating wealth by denying opportunity to the 99%.

        This used to be a country in which everyone took some responsibility for everyone else’s well-being and happiness. The items on the “list” show that has changed, and most of them are due to our income and wealth inequality.

        Never said you’re “evil”. You don’t sound evil to me, just misguided—–you HAVE drunk too much koolaid.

      • Vicki

        Jeremy Leochner says:
        “My problem isn’t with American Exceptionalism Vicki. Its with those who claim America is so exceptional and then inexplicably go on and on about how in less than 5 years Obama has managed to destroy “the greatest, best country God has ever given man on the face of the earth”. That’s what I don’t understand. How we can be so great and at the same time be so easily destroyed.”

        It’s not a bad question Jeremy. The answer is that the rot has been going on for MANY years. obama just happens to be helping it along too fast and it is waking up the sheep.

      • Vicki

        Vicki (me) says:
        “That Stain was disapproving of American exceptionalism is enough reason alone for us to embrace the term. The concept predates Stalin by many many years”

        Right Brain Thinker doesn’t and says:
        “Yep, Vicki loves the mention of Joseph Stalin becuase it allows her to go off on one of her obfuscatory and distractatory sentence exercises.”

        Let’s see….
        ———————————————-
        ob·fus·cate
        “1 a : darken
        b : to make obscure
        2 : confuse
        intransitive verb
        : to be evasive, unclear, or confusing
        ———————————————-

        Nope. My statement clarifies Jeremy’s attempt to ob·fus·cate stalin’s creation of the term to imply that because the term was created by a communist then the term must be bad.

        —————————————
        distractatory

        The word you’ve entered isn’t in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the search bar above.
        http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/distractatory
        —————————————

        Now why am I not surprised that RBT was making up words? Or maybe just can’t spell?

      • APN

        RBT said: And, as I predicted, one of the mindless actually gives her a “you go girl”.

        Once again, the mindless num-nuts asserts his superiority over us mere “Americans”.

        We get it RBT, you really don’t like “America”, well, BOY, I hate it for you, MOVE!!!!

        I’m sure that Hitler, Stalin or a Mao Tse-Tung like regime would be sure to place you at the HEAD of their “Let’s exterminate the mindless crowd” death squad.

        People like you are nothing more than a want-a-be bully but to cowardly to do the things you would really like to do to us “Simpletons”, in person.

        Bottom line RBT, hardening of the arteries is a bitch, isn’t it!

        APN

      • Jeremy Leochner

        I think its a good point Vicki. My only question is Where did it start?

      • Vicki

        Jeremy Leochner says:
        “I think its a good point Vicki. My only question is Where did it start?”

        1930′s FDR’s New Deal?

        Progressivism late 1800′s early 1900′s?

        War of Northern Aggression?

        So many choices.

        One of the reasons you KNOW that America is or was great is how long we lasted beyond what the founders expected.

      • Vigilant

        Pretty much as I figured: RBT’s umbrage over my citing him for a word that doesn’t exist in the English language would offend his natural right to speak in tongues. Should we all adopt Sanskrit as a mode of communication?

        Then, deliciously, “It most certainly IS a word, Vigilant, along with evasivatory, obfuscatory, and one other one that slips my old and tired mind.”

        No, RBT, sorry to burst your sociopathic bubble, but neither distractatory nor evasivatory is a word.

        Then, we see the basis of his claim that they are actual words: “I made the four of them up in response to that little “lesson” Vicki gave us a while back about the four types of sentences.”

        Alas, the truth comes out! YOU MADE THEM UP. A couple of points:

        (1) Do you think that makes you witty or cute?

        (2) Are you so arrogant as to believe that when you make up a word you are entitled to designate it as a word in anything other than a tongue-in-cheek fashion?

        And lastly, your Al Goresque claim that you made up the word “obfuscatory” is indeed an example of arrogance. Again, sorry to burst your bubble, but the word has been in use since before you were born. Of the words shown, it was NOT made up by you.

        But to lead off your diatribe with such an insignificant thing? You have a real knack for going after the capillary.

      • Vigilant

        RBT has been indeed schooled in the Alinsky art of “obfuscatory” language of diverting the subject. For example,

        “Vigilant really gets up on his soapbox with, “The generosity of the American people and government during times of international tragedy are legend”.
        Yes, the “generosity” of “the American People and government” needs to be reworked just a bit, perhaps? As in addressing these things here at home?”

        Tut, tut, Mr. school administrator, you may have been able to get away with that type of topic diversion when you were programming tender minds, but it doesn’t stand up to the “steely eyed” mature minds of the truly educated.

        Be so kind as to show us the logical connection between America’s (alleged but untrue) “lowest spending on international development and humanitarian assistance as a percentage of GDP” and its alleged lack of generosity “in addressing these things here at home.”

        Methinks your failure to undertake an argument on the basis of logic is a most eloquent demonstration of the serious failures in teaching our children the efficacy of pristine logic, and using facts to back up their arguments.

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Vigilant,

          Careful now. RBT will accuse you changing the subject, getting off topic or avoiding the question.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Vigilant fails to notice that I don’t “take umbrage” over much on PLD, that I concentrate on seeking truth and pointing out the untruths that others like Vigilant spout so casually.. He DOES, however, show that HE is an “umbrage taker” with these two back-to-back comments. Any logical thinker will reach that conclusion after reading them.

        In true Frank Kahn style, he persists in arguing “grammar” (once again failing to see the forest for the trees) and attacks me rather than addressing the CONTENT of the “list”.

        The words DO exist because you can see them on the screen in front of you, they ARE in English, and they DO have roots that can be easily interpreted. Like ALL words, they are “made up”. I think of one that seems to have made it into some dictionaries—-”ginormous”, an ugly word that is a hybrid of gigantic and enormous, to look at it. Is it a real word? Not to me and I’d never use it, but I recognize its meaning when I see it.

        Why does Vigilant waste our time with this argument? Is he trying to be “witty or cute”? Apparently not, because “sociopath” is rather vicious, over the top, and inappropriate here, although it certainly does illustrate that “umbrage” problem Vigilant has (and quite “deliciously”, too). I feel compelled to answer Vigilant’s viciousness to some extent—-such mindless anger and lack of focus should be noticed.

        Vigilant asks, “Are you so arrogant as to believe that when you make up a word you are entitled to designate it as a word in anything other than a tongue-in-cheek fashion?”
        Wasn’t I doing a “tongue in cheek” thing with Vicki when I first posted those words? And anyone who uses the English language is “entitled” to make whatever they wish with it—–words, ideas, arguments. What IS arrogant is the way many abuse the language (and the concepts of truth and honest debate) with the mindless horsepucky they post here on PLD.

        OH!—–tail wagging time! Vigilant has found a bone with “obfuscatory”. Still whacking at a tree in the forest that he has missed, but he is driven by that”umbrage” thing. I don’t recall the exact word I coined, but DO apologize for the major sin if I did in fact claim “obfuscatory”. Do you think that will invalidate everything else I have posted here?

        And which is this supposed to be, witty or cute? I vote cute, because it’s not very witty.
        “You have a real knack for going after the capillary”.

        And in his second comment, Vigilant, just can’t resist bringing in “Alinsky”, as Vigilant continues to “divert” us from the subject—–American exceptionalism. Much easier to attack me, of course, than address the substance of my comments. The mindless on PLD will say to him “You really told RBT! Excellent comments!!”, and Vigilant will feel good about what he has done and continue to wander in the forest..

        I said, and it bears repeating, Vigilant really gets up on his soapbox with, “The generosity of the American people and government during times of international tragedy are legend”.
        Yes, the “generosity” of “the American People and government” needs to be reworked just a bit, perhaps? As in addressing these things here at home?

        To which Vigilant replies, “Tut, tut, Mr. school administrator, you may have been able to get away with that type of topic diversion when you were programming tender minds, but it doesn’t stand up to the “steely eyed” mature minds of the truly educated”.
        Not sure whether he is trying for cute, witty, or tongue-in-cheek with “steely-eyed mature minds of the truly educated”—–some mixed metaphors there—–but it caused this truly educated, mature-minded person with “steely eyes” to chuckle. Having “steely eyes” is a very important thing for high school administrators—-can’t tell you how much time and how many words I saved by just laying “the look” on a bunch of students who were “walking the edge”. I learned “the look” from USMC DI’s.

        Vigilant would waste my time by having me look up things to “prove” my point. Sorry, Vig, but I have better things to do—–the way it works anyway is that YOU cite figures that show the U.S. is in fact NOT the lowest spender and that I have lied. Google around and you’ll get many hits, one of which I quote here,

        “Western nations can clearly afford to spend more to address the problems afflicting impoverished nations. Only the Scandinavian countries invest more than 1% of their gross domestic products (GDP) in foreign aid. The United States, Japan, Germany and the other leading economic powers spend proportionately much less. The United States spends only 0.12% of GDP — one-eighth of one percent — in overseas aid. Japan and Germany spend more, but not much more; only about 0.4% of GDP — four-tenths of one percent”
        (Note also that 0.4% is 3-1/3 times bigger than 0.12%, so we DO lag quite a bit behind there)

        “Be so kind as to show us how what I said is (alleged but untrue)”. Did Vigilant fail to notice that I left that item out of the list in the last comment anyway? I was hoping to get Vigilant to focus on the “at home” items on the list, or did he miss “As in addressing these things here at home?”

        Vigilant finishes with the typical “I said it so it must be true” logic of the PLD poster on the right, and just refuses to see the logic or fact in what I have said. Methinks his failure to undertake an argument on the basis of logic will be most evident to anyone who cares to really read our exchange.

        His two comments are the most eloquent demonstration of the serious failures in teaching our children logic and using facts to back up their arguments, since he is neither logical nor does he use any significant “facts” in them. (Or maybe he just didn’t pay attention and it’s his fault, not the school’s?)

        Focus on the problem, Vigilant—-the problem is not me—-reread the article, reread “the list”. Dust off some “pristine logic” for us and use it.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Bob Livingston says:

        “Dear Vigilant, Careful now. RBT will accuse you changing the subject, getting off topic or avoiding the question”.

        Hmmmmmm. I’m having trouble categorizing that comment as “witty”, “cute”, or “mindless”. I say “mindless” only because it looks to me that you have taken a small swipe at me without really reading our comments. It is true that I will accuse Vigilant of “all of the above”, because he IS guilty of doing exactly those things—he needs to be careful when he messes with the bull. And a careful rereading of our exchange will bear that out.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Vicki (her) says nothing of importance, choosing to waste our time with a dik-shun-erry lesson and some more obfuscatoriness. Now why am I not surprised that she would do that? Or that Vicki is making up arguments? Or maybe she just can’t think?

        And APN says his usual angry and mindless stuff

        As if the ever-mindless “We get it RBT, you really don’t like “America”, well, BOY, I hate it for you, MOVE!!!!” is any kind of an argument. Old and tired, APN.

        And “Once again, the mindless num-nuts asserts his superiority over us mere “Americans”. No, not all “mere” Americans, APN, just guys like you and Frank.

        (rant) Hitler, Stalin or a Mao Tse-Tung like regime, (more rant) HEAD of their “Let’s exterminate the mindless crowd” death squad.

        (stupid attempt at an attack) “Bottom line RBT, hardening of the arteries is a bitch, isn’t it!”

        Why can’t APN find something intelligent to say rather than waste what little reasoning ability he has on attacking me?

      • Vicki

        Right Brain Thinker says:
        “Vicki (her) says nothing of importance, choosing to waste our time… ”

        Which you seem to have been quite happy to do since you read it :).

        - RBT: “Now why am I not surprised that she would do that? Or that Vicki is making up arguments? Or maybe she just can’t think?”

        I’m Blonde. My ability to not think is legend. (Just read some of my other posts :) )

        - RBT: “(stupid attempt at an attack) “Bottom line RBT, hardening of the arteries is a bitch, isn’t it!” ”

        It was certainly more creative than the ad hominems the right brain has come up with.

        - RBT: “Why can’t APN find something intelligent to say rather than waste what little reasoning ability he has on attacking me?”

        Have you considered taking your own sage advice?

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Vicki says:

        “I’m Blonde. My ability to not think is legend. (Just read some of my other posts”)
        That’s funny—have you seen the YouTube clip, “the Girls of Fox News”? You should look at it—-it might explain why the “men” are so hot to watch Faux. (or are you one of the “girls of Fox” yourself?)

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNj0T4uK3lE

        And “hardening of the arteries is a bitch” is “creative”? C’mon, Vicki—-you can’t expect us to believe you really think that’s creative? Or are you just supporting the new troll in the next cubicle at “SHILLS-N-TROLLS-R-US”—APN?—-DaveH’s replacement? Maybe he’ll reward you by buying you a coke or sharing his barrel of Cheetos with you)

        And, Vicki, I always take my own sage advice—-haven’t you noticed?

        ~314.9999 MILLION AMERICANS haven’t come near PLD today.
        STOP PUNISHING THOSE OF US THAT DO!
        STOP IT NOW!!

        • Bob666

          Yo RBT,
          “~314.9999 MILLION AMERICANS haven’t come near PLD today.
          STOP PUNISHING THOSE OF US THAT DO!
          STOP IT NOW”!!

          Now that was funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Yo devil#Bob,

        “~314.9999 MILLION AMERICANS haven’t come near PLD today.
        STOP PUNISHING THOSE OF US THAT DO!
        STOP IT NOW”!!

        Now that was funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        Hope so—-made me chuckle when I typed it. I sure hope Vicki finds it to be just a bit “creative”. I live for her approval, you know. (Have you looked at the “Girls of Fox News” YouTube clip yet? It’s worth watching).

        • Bob666

          Yo RBT,
          I see that you still have that sexual tension going on with Jana & Vicki!

      • Vicki

        Right Brain Thinker doesn’t and says:
        “~314.9999 MILLION AMERICANS haven’t come near PLD today.
        STOP PUNISHING THOSE OF US THAT DO!
        STOP IT NOW!!”

        That’s the beauty of free will RBT. No one is forcing you to stay are and take the “punishment”. Whereas the

        ~300 MILLION Americans who DIDN’T SHOOT ANYONE don’t get the choice

        STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT for the acts of a very few.

        STOP IT
        STOP IT NOW.

        Oh and thanks for helping to bring attention to this self evident truth.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Say goodnight, Vicki. Today’s Laugh In Show has ended.

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        “(And knock off that “sexual tension” crap, especially with Jana. I don’t want to be accused by her of doing anything “improper”.)”

        Agreed! Elevate our conversation gentlemen, ~ Strong minds and sound thinking does not have a penis. Ayn Rand was as tough as a nickle steak and gifted with a steel trap for a mind.

        Give credit where credit is due and offer the greatest of respect to thoughtful commentary, it will only enrich your life and you to stand taller than you stood before.

        I guess that you know, some languages are predicated on gender. The cultures that speak such languages seem to all fall in the category of “The Little Train that couldn’t” yet come so close.

        I’m not for certain what that all might mean, ~ but a good idea, is a good idea and not predicated on who presents it.

        • Right Brain Thinker

          deer says, “Elevate our conversation gentlemen, offer the greatest of respect to thoughtful commentary, a good idea is a good idea and not predicated on who presents it”

          I agree. Too bad we don’t have more “good ideas” and “thoughtful commentary” being posted on PLD.

          • Bob666

            Yo Deer & RBT,
            We should and I am as guilty as any, but I will also say that when I respond, I do so in kind because I was taught to never let a bully have control. If I had a dollar for eveytime I have seen a post to me that started out with name calling, I would be a far more wealthy man.

            But Deer is correct, I need to be the better man and based on many of the post that I read, that should not be difficult.

          • Right Brain Thinker

            Bob666 says, “When I respond, I do so in kind because I was taught to never let a bully have control. If I had a dollar for every time I have seen a post to me that started out with name calling, I would be a far more wealthy man”. My sentiments exactly—My concept of “in kind” is to hit the fools with three times as much fact, twice as much logic and much more subtle and elegant “name calling” than they employ. One must sometimes lay an outright “anal orifice” on someone, but that can usually be avoided.

          • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

            Those without sin , cast the first stone.

            We know how they work, ~ direct the conservation away from the topic by whatever means.

            Seek high ground is all I can tell you. ~ They don’t enjoy discussion the GOP track record. ~ or the fact that a libertarian government can be found only in a two or three isolated small nations scattered about the globe today. The only way it would possibly work on a large population ~ is to install local ” enforcers” ~ much like the Taliban. That would sure be a lot of “Enforcers” to come up with!

            They are attempting to reinvent themselves to be seen as pure and clean as freshly fallen white snow. They fell from the sky, full grown, owing no one nothing and demanding their “rights” as they are attempting to take away yours for some moral principal that supersedes the living in defense of the unborn.

            They wish to take away organized labors voice from the bargaining table while Corporate buys it’s place at the table.

            They wish to restrict your one vote by restricting access to the polls and redistricting.

            They make claims of opposing the elite while they defend the elite at every opportunity.

            They wish to make government the enforcer of their own notions of Christianity by uniting church and state into one and passing legislation that restrict personal freedom.

            They wish to take over our school systems and install Creationism as a core study.

            Elevate the discourse ~ and hammer and hammer.

            The GOP has some very bright people that incite their dummy’s ~ They are sort of like Muslim suicide bombers. ~ They get their dummies all worked up with a head full of self righteous Holy Crap and Talking points ~ and send them out to reek havoc and disrupt.

            Beside a poor track record, the GOP main weak spot, ~is their dummies! They are an embarrassment! They misspeak under pressure and fevered anger.

            Just remember, your reaction is the only thing that you actually have any control of.

            Control yourself, ~ and entice them to reach beyond them limits. ~ and when they do ~ hammer them with politely delivered hard facts. Research your topics ~ Avoid open ended statement. Avoid speaking in absolutes.

            As for myself, ~ I attempt to stay based inside what I know ~ or at least feel comfortable with and look forward to be proven wrong.

            I just want the factual truth to be exposed , ~ land where it may ~ and be nice. They hate it when you are nice.

          • Nick Czudy

            Amen Deer In Water. That is only a short glimpse of what they are doing.

            The one point that really hits home is that there are a few smart people that are filling the heads of their minions with hate and lies and send them out to do their bidding.

            That is a good explanation of how they operate. The ones that follow blindly are just like the jihadists. They are not swift enough to understand what they are being told and they will repeat the talking points and lies without vetting the info.
            Their problem is that the rest of the population can see through this. So their base is small and shrinking.
            Deer, you have an eloquence with your words that I cannot match.
            Keep it up. haha. It is really pissing off the right winger managers.
            warm regards.
            Nick Cz

          • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

            Thank you Nick,

            Just an old dyslexic plumber here that learned long ago, ~ you got to serve somebody, ~ go slow, be sure and don’t bite your nails.

    • eddie47d

      “America’s military will decline” Conservatives have been saying that all my life. We still have overkill capabilities,troops in over half the countries in the world and we are the number one arms dealer in the world. Wayne must still have that losers fever thinking up all this trash talk. Ron Paul was sick of our disastrous foreign adventures and our misuse of military resources. An over bloated military budget is no worse than an over bloated Dept of Education and we have both!

      • AK Tom

        From an overbloated military budget to a paper tiger. Oblamer is doing his level best to set US up for defeat. The death of 30 Navy Seals by carelessly placing them on one slow moving Chinook helicopter making them an easy target, six aircraft carriers all docked at one port, the rules of engagement our soldiers have follow in Afghanistan, the START treaty, the list goes on, and on…and on

      • http://google mike b.

        Hussein Obama is a Thug!!!! Obaminism= Thugery

        • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Darwan Winkler

          I say, You need to met a real Thug.

          • Bob666

            Yo Darwin,
            Mike is one of those “special” guys. He will soon call you a “punk” and read you the riot act.

      • eddie47d

        AK Tom; Soldiers die in war and they are transported in large numbers. What part of that don’t you get? That wasn’t the first helicopter to get shot down and it won’t be the last. 76 Airborne Rangers died in one battle at Dak To in 1967 and the enemy won that one. Did that make President Johnson a bad President for that reason. Did it make Gen Westmoreland a terrible leader for allowing it to happen. That seems to be your thinking!

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear eddie47d,

          You write: “Did that make President Johnson a bad President for that reason. Did it make Gen Westmoreland a terrible leader for allowing it to happen.” It was not the cause of Johnson being a bad President and Westmoreland being a bad leader, it was the effect of Johnson being a bad President (and despicable, evil human being) and Westmoreland being a bad leader.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

      • APN

        Eddie said ” Did that make President Johnson a bad President for that reason.”

        What made Johnson a bad President was the simple fact that he was a progressive FOOL. Boy, he was a genius, ” We gonna wipe out dat poverty in Amarica, we gonna have three chickens in every pot! We gonna win this wOO on proverty in AMARACA by giving the peoples some FREE CHICKENS!

        Shucks, Edidiedum, what happened, 17 Trillion in debt and still got folks that ain’t got no chicken in da pots?

        Shucks, and I thought we AMARICANS were “Progressive??”

        Only a sheep can led to the slaughter….. Eddiedum.

        APN

        • Bob666

          Yo APN
          Were you born pissed off or did someting bad happen along the way?

          BTW, I remeber Carter quite well and I voted for Regan-But left the GOP in his second term.

          • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Darwan Winkler

            As did I. ~

          • Bob666

            Yo Darwin,
            I sure for the same good reasons.

    • Fed up

      Jeremy, where’s Flashy when you need back-up?

      • eddie47d

        Fed Up: Is that the extent of your reasoning today? Now if your mentally challenged and can’t debate the facts I’ll give you a free pass this time.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        I don’t need back up Fed up. I am just saying what I believe.

  • Harold Olsen

    I hated Jimmy Carter. He was a terrible president. When he was in office, I was still a Democrat and I did not vote for him. Romney’s comments, whille probably true, were rather stupid. Politicians, especially one running for president, should use discretion in what they say. There is always someone out to get something on them. They should always assume that anything they say is probably being recorded. What was actually funny about his 47% comment was that the “fact-finders” on one of the news channels (I think CNN) said that Romney lied. It was not 47% but only 46.4%. In any case, if Romney had been elected, I doubt that things would have been much better than they are now. I considered Romney to be little more than an Obama clone and even received a couple of death threats on Twitter from some of his followers for saying that. Just the thing I’d expect from liberals. and Romney is a liberal so were most of his supporters.

    • Warrior

      In retrospect, obviously the wrong brother was voted in. By now, “billy beer” would be challenging “Bud” as the “king of beers”.

      • Bob666

        Yo Warrior,
        tried Billy Beer once since it was on sale at the “Big Star”, trust me, Budweiser had nothing to worry about!

    • RivahMitch

      Actually, Carter has been redeemed by the Kenyan fascist (sort of). He’ll no longer go down as the worst president in American history because the mulatto Mussolini has claimed that distinction.

      • eddie47d

        Biased much Rivah? Obama’s first term has been evaluated and even he is not considered the worst and as I said earlier Carter is nowhere near the worst either. Look up the facts,polls,lists and see for yourself instead of being a sheeple about everything that is said around here. Almost all polls list Taylor,Hoover,Nixon,Harrison,Grant, Tyler, Fillmore ,Pierce ,A Johnson,Harding and Buchanan as the worst.

      • Don 2

        But, Jimmy Carter will go down in history as the manly man president, who fled from a “killer rabbit”

      • Dave67

        Don 2,

        Carter served his country on submarines… Reagan made promo films for the Army.

        Amazing what you find out when you actually look at the two men and actually what they “did”.

    • Jeremy Leochner

      Harold Romneys comments were not true. He equated paying no Federal Income Tax with being lazy and not taking responsibility. Forgetting that among the list of Americans who pay no federal income there are people no right thinking person would call lazy and lacking personal responsibility.

  • eddie47d

    So much desperation here! The only person at fault over that 47% remark is Mitt Romney. It wasn’t edited to make Mitt look bad it was his own words or don’t Republicans take responsibility for what they say.

    • APN

      No more so than the Dems Eddie…….. Get it?

      APN

  • Butch

    Did I hear Wayne correctly? “A brilliant businessman and turnaround specialist, Romney was the perfect man to again save America. He would have turned around this Obamageddon economy in two years with low taxes, reduced spending and smaller government …” Romney was “perfect”??? He was a flip flopping RINO that NO ONE that wasn’t a neo-con, wanted. You could make a mix tape of him stating his adherence to BOTH sides of any issue, maybe even worse than Obumma. He said he would have supported the NDAA. He agreed w/ Obumma on virtually every talking point that mattered. Wayne, you need to resign or at least stop calling yrself a Libertarian or just call yrself a LINO. Ron Paul was the perfect candidate to turn America around, we’re just too stupid as a nation to choose what’s best for us. After all, we re-elected a Kenyan usurper fraud TWICE. I know, Obumma cheated but Robney and the hopelessly corrupt GOP robbed Ron Paul repeatedly so its impossible for me to feel sorry for Bankster puppet Robmey. Now America’s dying a slow agonizing death, because that’s what America chose.

  • E Gabris

    The 47% reflected the true Romney and the voters respond accordingly. Add to this the self-deportation comment and the Republican efforts to restrict voting by minorities and the cause of the result of the election was clear. The stupid comments on rape did not help either.

  • http://www.chandostransportsolutions.com GraemeB

    And of course Britain had interest rates of 28% which was caused by Carter. And West Germany went into deficit for the first time post war, because of Carter. The price of oil had nothing to do with Carter but with OPEC, just as it has nothing to do with Obama now. It is called supply and demand. Reagan came into government just as the rest of the world was rebounding from the recession of 1978-81. Reagan reversed his trickle down tax policies by increasing taxes in his second term. The trickle down tax policy does not work anymore than it does now.
    I think a Romney presidency would have been an unmitigated disaster as I don’t think he would have known what to do.

  • http://rice4us@verizon.net Walter Agard

    all presidents make mistakes sometime or the other they are humans like any of us .What about Bush. He causes the situation we are in today.Many of you dont want to admit it and I thaught that ha was the worst president .No boby don’t hate him for that. It was his decision as president .

    • Robert Smith

      What Mr. Root failed to mention was the secret mind control from the new world order that forced Romney to say what he did about the 47%.

      Shoot the messenger rather than the source of the comments.

      One of the few times Romney was honest during his run for President and you want to blame Carter for it.

      That sure looks twisted to me.

      Rob

      • APN

        Robert, just how old were you during Carter’s Presidency?

        I’ve lived as a young man through the mire and the muck of his progressive lunacy. He was the biggest NOTHING that has ever held the office of the POTUS, prior to Obama.

        Explain it!

        APN

      • Robert Smith

        Doesn’t change the FACT that Romney was dismissive of 47% of America.

        We need a president that represents ALL Americans. Carter did that when he was president, and Obama is trying to do that now.

        Rob

        • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

          Robert Smith says , “We need a president that represents ALL Americans. Carter did that when he was president, and Obama is trying to do that now”

          I say, excellent summation Mr. Smith. And for anyone that sees it any other way, ~ I will be forever in their eyes like onions.

          Liberty and justice for all ~ or none. ~ It’s something to “aspire too” and what being an American is all about.

          As I child, You and I repeated it over and over again until we believed it as being a way to think , ~ a way to believe, or did we not?

  • Motov

    Obozo’s first term was more like spend and spend, and now the tax hikes. His lies will only get worse. “Recession” will be “Depression” as Obozo plans to make Roosevelt look like a Saint by the time he is out of office. I just hope the sheeple wake up to this threat of socialism gone awry.

    • eddie47d

      I just finished up looking at several polls on the Web about worst and best Presidents. NOWHERE was Carter listed as the worst so who is fooling whom? Reagan wasn’t the best President either although he did rank #3 in one poll. G Bush was listed as worse than Carter. One poll showed both Republicans and Democrats having Lincoln as the best President and F Roosevelt and G Washington were always in the top 10. I think some of you need to troll the Internet more closely and find out the real facts instead of believing the usual smear.

      • MNIce

        Jimmy Carter was consistently ranked among the worst presidents until Mr. Obama came along. Two things have changed that. One is historical revisionism by Democrat propaganda artists. The other is the obvious arrogance, corruption and incompetence of the present administration – it has lowered the standard for the Presidency so much as to make the entire Federal government an object of contempt, fear and loathing.

      • eddie47d

        Do you care if Wayne tells the truth or not? Carter isn’t listed anywhere as the worst President as he states! Carter was weak on more than one front but he is still more honest than you know who!

        • Bob666

          Yo Eddie 47,
          Carter was not an effective leader, but I also must admit that Carter was one of the most honest men ever to win the Whitehouse and his life after the presidency has been 100% up standing.

          From an economic point of view, Carter’s years were painfull, but that pain stopped soon after Regan was elected. Unfortunately, The “W” years will be the gift that keeps on giving for years to come and would be regardless of who won the election in 2008.

      • APN

        Eddiedumbo said : I think some of you need to troll the Internet more closely and find out the real facts instead of believing the usual smear.”

        Your ignorance never ceases to amaze me Eddie. Let me get this straight, if the “Internet” says it, well heck, It must be TRUE!!!

        Let me see here, I just visited a website that said “EDDIEDUMBO” is a genius, in fact, if you ask him, he is a rocket scientist , just like RBT, who specializes in “Jobal” Warming from teaching a science class in High school!!

        Well heck, IT MUST BE TRUE! No way around it, if the “Internet” says so.

        LMAO!

        APN

        • Nick Czudy

          APN.
          If what I think you are saying is that what Eddie 47 is wrong to use the internet to find out the facts is ridiculous. Then are you saying that if you say something or Wayne Allan Root says something from your partisan viewpoints, that the masses should listen to you or Wayne as being factual. Wayne has been found to be wrong much more often then he has been right prior to the election. Nothing personal Wayne. But you expend a lot of hot air that is pure bull.

          One of the best advances in the world in the last decade is search engines like Google and Bing to be able to search the world instantly for articles, facts and stories to be able to get facts and the truth. You will find many parisan stories searching the web but you will also find a lot of real, unbiased facts as well. That is the skill you need, Is use the great search engines to find out the facts. They are all there.

          If a source of information, that was not political, or partisan, does a study and gives a report, then being able to find it on the internet is the sane and rational thing to do. That is the best way for us to backup our statements and opinions.

          I do not understand how you can ridicule Eddie 47 for using the internet to find out facts.
          That is something that more of the right wing bloggers here need to do.
          I think that what I have seen, since arriving at this site is that when one side, that is politically motivated, says something that may not be true or factual, that the followers repeat those same theories without vetting the facts.
          There is a lot of that going on.
          I did not search out this site to disagree with its viewpoints. But its spam invaded my mailbox to invite me here. So I am here and I do not always agree with what is being said here. In fact Wayne Allen Roots discourse here is more like someone that is high on marijuana, then a sane and rational opinion. Luckily there are members of this site, that will question and debate what is being said.
          We need you to do that as well and back up your words with facts. We all do not live under the Right Wing bubble and so do not take it as gospel, just because it has been said here.
          You need to do the same.

  • Doc Sarvis

    Wow. And anyone who brings up the President prior to President Obama on this site is chastised for going too far back in history. I guess if you have to go that far back in history to come up with a story you are really desperate.
    Certainly, many don’t think much of Carter and will call him the worst President in history. Practically every President holds that “honor” with some subset of our population. Why even “he who’s name must not be spoken here” who held the office prior to President Obama has his detractors. Perhaps it is because he didn’t read his Presidential Daily Briefing and let the worst attack on American civilians occur on 9/11/01, or threw our country into a false war killing thousands and maiming thousands more of our brave fighters (killing and maiming 100s of thousands of others) while not paying for the war, diverting resources for that war while starting another war (Afghanistan), AND wrecking the economy (with some help from others). Even the worst of Carter’s acts don’t come close to that distinction.
    Mr. Root; once again, in your first paragraph (first sentence this time) you shoot your credibility in the foot.
    As for Romney being the savior you so wished for, many conservatives on this very site acknowledge he was little different from President Obama. I mostly agree with that assessment though I know that Romney would have made life even more comfortable for the rich and difficult for the poor and middle class (see the referenced 47% tape). They even shared the same health care ideals. Romney did have the same NeoCon advisors that President “he who’s name must not be spoken here” had so that would have hurt us.
    Fortunately, most thinking Americans voted to have the leadership of President Obama for another four years.

    • Right Brain Thinker

      Why can’t we just say it?
      BUSH BUSH BUSH
      As you point out, a far better candidate for “worst president” than Carter or O’Bama.

    • Dave67

      Doc and RBT,

      GWB never existed to these people… To these people, we went from Clinton and right into Obama. He is persona non-grata with the delusional here…Same with the GOP dominated Congress from 1994-2006… Everything wrong is all liberals/Democrats doing and these people believe liberals and Democrats are one in the same.

      9-11 was Clinton’s fault
      Tax cuts while engaging in 2 wars had no impact on our deficit.
      The Katrina response debacle was all the fault of the Democratic mayor of NO
      The Patriot Act just appeared one day…
      3000 People dying on 9-11 was horrible but what happened in Bengazi was the worst act imaginable and even though there has been hearing after hearing and people like Graham and McCain got the answers to their questions (when they bothered to show up for the hearings) its not enough!!
      Saddam was somehow responsible for 9-11, They know it somehow… They just don’t how they know it (Bush, in the lead up to the Iraq war, mentioning Saddam everytime he mentioned Bin Laden or 9/11 had no impact)

      Conservatives suffer from a disease called conservatism… where you have selective memory, have no ability to understand history or cause and effect. One of the most obvious symptoms is a serious lack of mathematical ability.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        I keep touting the book, The Republican Brain, by Chris Mooney. Has anyone who visits PLD read it besides me? It explains the “disease” of the conservative brain very well. And no bones about it, although there ARE good things about the conservative mind, it is dysfunctional in its present “mindlessly adhere to ideology in the face of fact” state.

      • APN

        ….and is this more of your “Science” RBT???

        Sick pup!

        APN

      • Right Brain Thinker

        APN says:
        “….and is this more of your “Science” RBT??? Sick pup!”

        Yes it is, APN—-science, something you seem to deny. Fool!

    • Bob666

      Whats up Doc!
      Yes, Carter was bad-no doubt, But Bush left his indelible mark on history. Right now there is a race to the bottom between Obama and Bush and I believe unlike his skill at war, Bush will win this contest.

      • APN

        …and that is the first thing that 666 has stated in a long while that I agree with…

        ODUMBO will win, trust me!

        APN

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        You can’t be trusted with a stick of gum APN.

  • Right Brain Thinker

    WAR once again shows us how out of touch with reality he is (except for the “reality” of sayong outrageous things to boost his “footprint” and make more $$$ from that—-that’s why he panders). He will, no doubt, get much support for his “views” from the mindless today, and they too will go very far afield as they ignore reality.

    I just love the fact that WAR would encourage the Repugnants in their belief that it was NOT their fault that THEY nominated Romney and that it was Jimmy Carter’s fault (and his grandson’s—-LOL) that Romney lost. Good job, WAR—–keep the Repugs thinking that way rather than looking at their real problems and we’ll see the Dems in control for the next 50 years.

    • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Darwan Winkler

      Complete agreement RBT, ~ unhealthy and unhelpful thinking at it finest.

      Most all Candidates depend and expect their words to be broadcast by media.

      The GOP has sold out to outside influence (corporate lobbyist) to such a degree that they can no longer openly discuss the issues of the day and server both their masters, Corporate interest and Americans without appearing disconnected from the voting public.

      Mitt Romney will tell us that Corporate interest are people, while we know the primary reason business forms a Corporation is to limit personal liability and shelter gains. The average American voter is limited in such areas.

      To expect these two forces to share the same laundry list of what American “needs” are and agree on a plan to make it happen is not inside the understanding of “probably” .

      In 2007 Obama stumped that he would address the heavy influence of lobbyist activity on the Hill. ~ But much like closing Gitmo, ~ it’s proved very difficult to do while greater matters supersede such efforts. ~ I think maybe he had their own coffee pot moved to the basement and their White House designated parking moved thirty steps farther away for the back door.

      While lobbying activity is nothing new, ~ here is America ~ it went on Steroids in response to the creation of EPA under the Nixon Administration and when viral under the Reagan administration.

      After 40 years ~ Capital Hill is now awash in special interest money, ~ While both parties are guilty as Cain is taking this money and pandering to corporate interest ~ the GOP has became a glutton and a lush while showing no remorse or repentance to the practice.

      As Dick Chaney would say ~ “It’s fair game” Seeing the practice as an “Equal Opportunity” grab-fest of sorts. And of course Dick Chaney is a Cooperate man and a product of the corporate world not unlike Mitt Romney.

      The 40 year resulted in polarized political discourse and paralyzed the functions of government by making national politics a full body contact sport. A spectator sport with enough appeal the average voters feels required to chose and support his team at every opportunity as Mr. Root has just done, in defense of his losing candidate via an attack on Jimmy Carter and this family.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Well said, Darwan. I hope you’re not implying that the EPA was the sole cause of the lobbying “boom”. The creation of the EPA and the passage of the Clean Air and Clean Water Acts did in fact bring about a massive backlash from the fossil fuel interests and the manufacturers that saw them as requiring pollution cleanups that would affect the ever important bottom line. Actually, I think that was only part of a general mobilization on the right, and that time frame also saw the creation of many “institutes”, “foundations”, and other right wing so-called “think tanks” that have proved to be nothing more than propaganda arms for the plutocracy and corporate oligarchs. And a lot of undiscerning folks on the right have drunk their Koolaid, unfortunately.

        • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

          RBT ask, “I hope you’re not implying that the EPA was the sole cause of the lobbying “boom”. ”

          I say, Oh, no,~ not the sole cause, ~ but only to establish a “time line” and allowing cause and effect to do it’s magic.

          I had always thought that the Reagan administration with the Kick Off point in the “time line” in the Corporate take over of America.

          But after reading “Who Stole the American Dream” I had to rethink the place in history that it started without going back to the discovery of “FIRE”, ~I see it as the reaction of Corporate interest to establishing the EPA as clearly is a defining moment .

          The seed to the attack on regulation and labor was planted. Corporate America did not approve of this legislation as it handicapped them in the world market place and they were tired of “Sharing the Wealth” with workers that were just as selfish and greedy as management was , while “labor” not seeing the big picture, not even willing to see the big picture. Labor is subject to be spoiled rotten just like management. I’ve seen it while working in the factories as young man before I became an independent. The can’t be pleased! ~You pay the too much, they don’t need to work everyday, you pay them too little, they come in but don’t produce and always complaining regardless.

          It took several years, 9 to 10 years of effort to build this lobbing underpinning and muster the power to effect great change. Reagan was always a “pitch man” for Corporate America, even when he was a Democrat. ~ by 1980 Corporate America was ready to take back what they claim to be theirs. “Profits” Reagan was the right man for the job, ~ right time, right place.

          This shifting of power and responsibility might be all fine and good if it had stopped with Reagan’s administration, the adjustment in balance of power and equity made between sole ownership, labor and corporate . But it didn’t stop there, but continues today as Labor and sole proprietorship fights for survival on an unlevel playing field against Corporate giants.

          Today, Americans are being told Corporations are people! And like people, have the right to vote! ~ If that is the case, ~ the people need what Corporations enjoys, Tax breaks, limited personal liability and subsidies!

          Corporations now have the power to influence and affect great change, ~ while laboring Americans see the power of their single vote and their voice muted by this influence.

          I don’t see any change in this political dynamics in the near or distant future ~ this is the way it going to be. ~ This leaves us to come to grips with the position that we find ourselves in today ~ control what we can control and offer opposition when we find it just.

          But don’t expect to win every fight. ~ Sometimes winning or losing is just a manner of perspective. ~ Think of it as “Lost dogs and mixed blessing”.

          Globalization , like Climate change is real ~ Something to deal with ~ as rising water floats all boat. ~ for some to have more, others will have less.

          Those childhood memories of Mayberry and Aunt Bee’s apple pie are of yesterday and won’t be returning in our lifetime. We have the fond memory, ~ what more might we hope for? ~ Tomorrow’s children would reject our Mayberry, it having been replaced by something else. They will never miss it.

      • Bob666

        Yo Darwin,
        Let me repeat this again, Take big money out of politics and “We the Prople” will stand a chance. Money is power and power rules!

      • APN

        RBT said: He will, no doubt, get much support for his “views” from the mindless today, and they too will go very far afield as they ignore reality.

        Once again, a “School teacher”, alias the self-appointed WORLDS GREATEST GLOBAL WARMING SCIENTIST” asserts himself as the expert on “Reality”?

        LMAO!

        APN

      • Right Brain Thinker

        APN insists on following me around and proving his mindlessness to all with his ongoing personal attacks. Ho-hum. Yes, APN, but I don’t need to assert my superior knowledge on global warming or my superior grasp on reality (as compared to you and Frank), because it is one of those things the lawyers call “self-evident” like “the sky is blue”, and it’s not worth arguing about. Enjoy your delusional LMAO’s, because others are also laughing at every post you make—-laughing AT YOU. Or is that your motivation? Are you the class clown that would rather be laughed at than ignored?

        I once had a kid like you in a biology class who was always making stupid remarks. I said to him one day “You know, Dave, you do pretty well on tests so I know you’re not stupid. I really can’t understand why you want everyone to believe that you are stupid. Why don’t you use that brain to make real contributions in class? And think up a really funny joke every once in a while and share it with us—-we’ll laugh—-just stop making dumb comments five times in every class period”. He got quiet and was quiet for a couple of days. When he next put up his hand, I called on him and he said with a straight face, “I’ve been thinking about what you said and I’m not going to be stupid anymore”, at which point the class cracked up. I said, “Great Dave, I know you are not stupid anyway and I’m looking forward to the “new” Dave”, and went back to the lesson. From that day forward, Dave was a joy to have in class, had a good sense of humor that he showed once a week with a good joke, and started to get better grades. Talking to his other teachers, we all saw the “new” Dave, and he made the honor roll next quarter. Since he was hearing much the same from all his teachers (and counselor and parents), I don’t take sole credit for his turnaround, but I DO feel good that he reached his “tipping point” in my class.

        Can you do a “turnaround”, APN?

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        I look forward to the day ~ APN’s browser fails to work as it has in the past.

        It’s not my call but ~ I give APN a down vote for failing to add anything constructive to a thread and constant personal “Flaming”.

    • jopa

      BobHi;All you have to do is google” Reagan and Greenspan” and you will see exactly how they were able to raid Social Security and rip off the Seniors of trillions.Ron Reagan was a bad bad man and a mediocre cowboy.

      • APN

        HAHAHA!!!! RR was the BEST President of MY lifetime to date! How old are you??

        10, 20, 30????

        If you had lived through the disaster of Jimmy Carter’s Presidency, AS I DID, well, you would clearly understand just how FOOLISH of a statement that is!

        APN

      • Uknowho

        APN,

        I lived through both presidents too… Reagan was garbage… Carter was a bad politician. The right’s complete whitewashing of what Reagan did and didn’t do is an amazing PR job. Just does not have much to do with reality.

      • jopa

        APN: I will be 64 this year and how old are you sonny boy??

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        And I will be 65 in 3 days. ~ Seems we both “lived thu” Eisenhower and part of Truman.
        Jopa you and I were both in the 1st grade when the 1st nuclear submarine, the USS Nautilus was commission and sent to sea, 1955.

        APN you are a pup here. Control your tongue and you might learn something.

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        How Ronald Reagan and Alan Greenspan Pulled off the Greatest Fraud Ever Perpetrated against the American People
        by Allen W. Smith / April 14th, 2010

        As Newsweek magazine put it in its March 2, 1981 issue, “Reagan thus gambled the future — his own, his party’s, and in some measure the nation’s—on a perilous and largely untested new course called supply-side economics.”

        Essentially, Reagan switched the federal government from what he critically called, a “tax and spend” policy, to a “borrow and spend” policy, where the government continued its heavy spending, but used borrowed money instead of tax revenue to pay the bills. The results were catastrophic. Although it had taken the United States more than 200 years to accumulate the first $1 trillion of national debt, it took only five years under Reagan to add the second one trillion dollars to the debt. By the end of the 12 years of the Reagan-Bush administrations, the national debt had quadrupled to $4 trillion!

        Ronald Reagan and Alan Greenspan pulled off one of the greatest frauds ever perpetrated against the American people in the history of this great nation, and the underlying scam is still alive and well, more than a quarter century later. It represents the very foundation upon which the economic malpractice that led the nation to the great economic collapse of 2008 was built. Ronald Reagan was a cunning politician, but he didn’t know much about economics. Alan Greenspan was an economist, who had no reluctance to work with a politician on a plan that would further the cause of the right-wing goals that both he and President Reagan shared.

        Both Reagan and Greenspan saw big government as an evil, and they saw big business as a virtue. They both had despised the progressive policies of Roosevelt, Kennedy and Johnson, and they wanted to turn back the pages of time. They came up with the perfect strategy for the redistribution of income and wealth from the working class to the rich.

        If Reagan had campaigned for the presidency by promising big tax cuts for the rich and pledging to make up for the lost revenue by imposing substantial tax increases on the working class, he would probably not have been elected. But that is exactly what Reagan did, with the help of Alan Greenspan. Consider the following sequence of events:

        1) President Reagan appointed Greenspan as chairman of the 1982 National Commission on Social Security Reform (aka The Greenspan Commission)

        2) The Greenspan Commission recommended a major payroll tax hike to generate Social Security surpluses for the next 30 years, in order to build up a large reserve in the trust fund that could be drawn down during the years after Social Security began running deficits.

        3) The 1983 Social Security amendments enacted hefty increases in the payroll tax in order to generate large future surpluses.

        4) As soon as the first surpluses began to role in, in 1985, the money was put into the general revenue fund and spent on other government programs. None of the surplus was saved or invested in anything. The surplus Social Security revenue, that was paid by working Americans, was used to replace the lost revenue from Reagan’s big income tax cuts that went primarily to the rich.

        5) In 1987, President Reagan nominated Greenspan as the successor to Paul Volker as chairman of the Federal Reserve Board. Greenspan continued as Fed Chairman until January 31, 2006. (One can only speculate on whether the coveted Fed Chairmanship represented, at least in part, a payback for Greenspan’s role in initiating the Social Security surplus revenue.)

        6) In 1990, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York, a member of the Greenspan Commission, and one of the strongest advocates the the 1983 legislation, became outraged when he learned that first Reagan, and then President George H.W. Bush used the surplus Social Security revenue to pay for other government programs instead of saving and investing it for the baby boomers. Moynihan locked horns with President Bush and proposed repealing the 1983 payroll tax hike. Moynihan’s view was that if the government could not keep its hands out of the Social Security cookie jar, the cookie jar should be emptied, so there would be no surplus Social Security revenue for the government to loot. President Bush would have no part of repealing the payroll tax hike. The “read-my-lips-no-new-taxes” president was not about to give up his huge slush fund.

        The practice of using every dollar of the surplus Social Security revenue for general government spending continues to this day. The 1983 payroll tax hike has generated approximately $2.5 trillion in surplus Social Security revenue which is supposed to be in the trust fund for use in paying for the retirement benefits of the baby boomers. But the trust fund is empty! It contains no real assets. As a result, the government will soon be unable to pay full benefits without a tax increase. Money can be spent or it can be saved. But you can’t do both. Absolutely none of the $2.5 trillion was saved or invested in anything. I have been laboring for more than a decade to expose the great Social Security scam. For more information, please visit my website or contact me.

        Dr. Allen W. Smith is a Professor of Economics, Emeritus, at Eastern Illinois University. He is the author of seven books and has been researching and writing about Social Security financing for the past ten years. Read other articles by Allen, or visit Allen’s website.
        - See more at: http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/04/how-ronald-reagan-and-alan-greenspan-pulled-off-the-greatest-fraud-ever-perpetrated-against-the-american-people/#sthash.LbZWoIC4.dpuf

  • Dave67

    LOL… How is Carter responsible for the 1972 Oil embargo again? Oh thats right he wasn’t. It was Carter’s guy Volker that faixed the interest rate mess, not Greenspan.

    Carter was a horrible politician but the most moral man we had in that seat in my lifetime. He told the truth. Unlike that liar in chief Ronald Reagan. A true Patriot? Reagan told us we would NEVER negotiate with terrorists… Yet he did just that and sold our enemies weapons to pay to put his thugs in Nicaragua in power to replace the old thugs. He should have been impeached for Iran-Contra and Bush 1 should have had his butt thrown in jail for lying about his role in IC.

    Reagan let 200 marines get blown up in Lebanon and his response? A few sloppy rounds from a US Battleship sent into the hills while we cut and ran. Reagan was a coward.

    Under Reagan, worker productivity continued to get better, their wages? Stagnated… The wealthy did really well though and I know this crowd cares deeply about their plight.

    When Reagan left office, he got on a plane and flew to Japan for a couple million to talk to his favorite country, Japan. Carter left office and fought to bring conflicts wherever they may be to an end, bring awareness to social injustice in the world and helped contruct homes for the poor and less fortunate. Oh and while he was in office, got Israel and Egypt to stop fighting each other… What a jerk.

    We should all “wonder in the wilderness” like Jimmy Carter… he has lived his life more in linie with another JC (Jesus Christ) and any right wing loon that claims they are Christian that was our President.

    Root seems to ignore the fact that the tremendous debt we have now had its origins with Reagan. The man tripled outr debt… oops. The man gutted our mental health system and threw many of these people on the streets… oops

    Root is good for comedy, not much else.

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      Carter might of been a moral man but he forgot all the wealth at his disposal was the people’s, not his. Hge wanted to build a utopia with everybody elses money. He is what you’d call, an innocent. He can see no wrong in his actions and didn’t want to hurt anybody either.

    • jopa

      Dave67;It was also Reagan and Greenspan that figured out how to put Social Security funds into the general fund and rob it of trillions.Reagan Bad,Carter Grandson new American Hero.I would still like to thank the person that made the video that saved America and brought out the truth in Romneys hate for the majority of Americans that if you didn’t have a few million you were a low life piece of crap.Obamas election was Gods way of shedding his grace on thee.Watching all the economic indicators God was right once again and Obama was his choice.

      • BobHi

        Hey Jopa, you butt wipe demoRat–it was one of your own, LBJ, that moved Social Security funds into the general fund, and today nothing but worthless IOU’s remain in that supposed social security vault.

        If your knowledge of historical facts is so abysmal, all your other comments lack any credibility whatsoever. Of course, that statement is true of all the troll dumboRat posters on this site.

        • Bob666

          HiBob,
          “Hey Jopa, you butt wipe demoRat”
          What a class act you are!

        • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

          Bob HI says “Hey Jopa, you butt wipe demoRat–it was one of your own, LBJ, that moved Social Security funds into the general fund, and today nothing but worthless IOU’s remain in that supposed social security vault. ”

          “How Ronald Reagan and Alan Greenspan Pulled off the Greatest Fraud Ever Perpetrated against the American People
          by Allen W. Smith / April 14th, 2010

          “When Ronald Reagan became President in 1981, he abandoned the traditional economic policies, under which the United States had operated for the previous 40 years, and launched the nation in a dangerous new direction. As Newsweek magazine put it in its March 2, 1981 issue, “Reagan thus gambled the future — his own, his party’s, and in some measure the nation’s—on a perilous and largely untested new course called supply-side economics.” -

          “Essentially, Reagan switched the federal government from what he critically called, a “tax and spend” policy, to a “borrow and spend” policy, where the government continued its heavy spending, but used borrowed money instead of tax revenue to pay the bills. The results were catastrophic. Although it had taken the United States more than 200 years to accumulate the first $1 trillion of national debt, it took only five years under Reagan to add the second one trillion dollars to the debt. By the end of the 12 years of the Reagan-Bush administrations, the national debt had quadrupled to $4 trillion! -

          “1) President Reagan appointed Greenspan as chairman of the 1982 National Commission on Social Security Reform (aka The Greenspan Commission)

          2) The Greenspan Commission recommended a major payroll tax hike to generate Social Security surpluses for the next 30 years, in order to build up a large reserve in the trust fund that could be drawn down during the years after Social Security began running deficits.

          3) The 1983 Social Security amendments enacted hefty increases in the payroll tax in order to generate large future surpluses.

          4) As soon as the first surpluses began to role in, in 1985, the money was put into the general revenue fund and spent on other government programs. None of the surplus was saved or invested in anything. The surplus Social Security revenue, that was paid by working Americans, was used to replace the lost revenue from Reagan’s big income tax cuts that went primarily to the rich.

          5) In 1987, President Reagan nominated Greenspan as the successor to Paul Volker as chairman of the Federal Reserve Board. Greenspan continued as Fed Chairman until January 31, 2006. (One can only speculate on whether the coveted Fed Chairmanship represented, at least in part, a payback for Greenspan’s role in initiating the Social Security surplus revenue.)

          The practice of using every dollar of the surplus Social Security revenue for general government spending continues to this day. The 1983 payroll tax hike has generated approximately $2.5 trillion in surplus Social Security revenue which is supposed to be in the trust fund for use in paying for the retirement benefits of the baby boomers. But the trust fund is empty! It contains no real assets. As a result, the government will soon be unable to pay full benefits without a tax increase. Money can be spent or it can be saved. But you can’t do both. Absolutely none of the $2.5 trillion was saved or invested in anything. I have been laboring for more than a decade to expose the great Social Security scam. For more information, please visit my website or contact me. -

          - See more at: http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/04/how-ronald-reagan-and-alan-greenspan-pulled-off-the-greatest-fraud-ever-perpetrated-against-the-american-people/#sthash.0rjPe9rd.dpuf

      • Dave67
  • dan

    although you make a point about Carter….I think it’s the media and the GOP that we have to thank for Obama : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAPt5cxPEhs

  • James Hanrahan

    Fellow Americans, as a Conservative American for many years, I have to say, America is doomed! Obama has won, we will become whatever he and the Progressive Democrats want it to be. Obama has won every battle he has had with, Conservatism. He has achieved all the goals he has set for himself and his, “Svengali,” George Soros. We will now be plunged into a, “Financial Depression,” that we may never recover from, it will last for years, our descendants will struggle to pay off the debts that Obama and the Democrats have piled upon us. By the time the American public realizes what has happened, it will be too late to fix it! America, the country that the world saw as the, “Country Of Opportunity And Freedom,” will no longer exist, it will be just another third rate nation! What will emerge, is, if we’re lucky, a “World Governance!” Everyone will be controlled by the, United Nations, all laws and regulations will be made by them. We will be ruled by their edicts and we will have to answer to their, “Judges.” Americans, through their, lack of attention, threw away their, standards, morals, freedoms and all that made America the country it was founded to be! Americans fought for, in most cases, to free other countries from, “Despots, Tyrants, Oppressors and all who would suppress freedom. I have to say, it was great while it lasted, we shall never see a country such as America again, it was a great experiment and for awhile, it worked, it took a very talented, “Charlatan,” to defeat it but he did, with the support of, Labor Unions, Minorities, Homosexuals and uninformed Americans! We were, entertained by, Sports, Hollywood, Broadway, Television and the Main Stream Media, they did not do the job they were supposed to do! We had a compliant news media who, lied, exaggerated and supported every misdeed that the Democratic Party perpetrated on America. I think that covers most of what caused the demise of the once great, United States Of America! When America Turned Its Back On God, God Stopped Protecting It!

    • Adolf Schmidt

      Your right, 100%! I think the time has passed for a recovery, a turnaround, and both sides know it! We are watching a elaborate theatrical production, only meant to keep us occupied while they prepare the elite for the financial collapse that is almost surely emanate! I do believe when the entitlements(food stamps, welfare, housing, SS, and disability) are gone, the people will turn on each other to survive! The old and disabled will die off first, the rest of what’s left, will resort to stealing and killing to make ends meet! Obama has the paper work ready to impose martial law and seize control of all energy and food resources! It’s convenient that Obama is pulling the troops State side this next year! It’s also convenient to have ordered enough bullets to have run the war in Iraq for 30 years! Once the Country has been purged of the strain on it’s economy, they can rebuild. Now there will be enough jobs to go round, and the immigration reform supplied plenty of cheap labor! The people that run our government are just that, people! They have the same faults as anyone, they are not special! Open your eyes and don’t follow blindly! I hope I’m wrong, but too many things seem to say I’m right! If I’m wrong, life goes on, no problem! If I’m right, then God Bless and all my best wishes for you and your family!

  • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

    Yeah, and if Mitt had wings he could fly. ~

    But he does not and I am glad.

    What is a Wayne Allen Root promise selling for today’s market?

    So many times of being wrong should have a down side for an odds maker.

    So neither Mitt Romney or yourself should held responsible for your own words?

  • Vigilant

    I don’t often disagree with you, Mr. Root, but I think your perception of the facts may be a tad clouded by your supreme dislike for Carter.

    Even if Carter had a direct effect on the election via the release of that tape, Romney’s remarks about the 47% were true. You’re implying it’s OK for a politician to pander to the people, that Romney should have lied to the electorate as much as Obama to fight fire with fire. I do not agree. It was the ignorance, greed and short sightedness of the people that put Obama back in office.

    Secondly, you make a whopping assumption that Romney would have been another Reagan. I think we have found enough differences in political philosophy between the two to gainsay that contention. Your assertion that “Romney was the perfect man to again save America” is highly debatable.

    • Warrior

      Maybe, just maybe, we would have gotten policies to promote the “private sector”. Without those we are doomed! Obviously not enough understand or care. I voted for Carter and it was the last time I ever voted for a demonrat. Ya know, Jesse Jr. was diagnosed with a bi-polar disorder yet he displayed ALL the same behavioral patterns as the rest of the “progressive caucas” including the “fraud”. One can only conclude that “progressivism = bi-polar disorder” and right now there is an epidemic of “sick people” in gubmint.

      • nc

        Warrior, what makes Jessie, Jr ,any different from Spiro Agnew and other Republicans who have been connected to fraud and stealing? No conservatives have ever been guilty of fraud or stealing? Really??? None??? Ever???

    • Jeremy Leochner

      Vigilant Romneys comments about the 47% were not true. Unless you believe Military Veterans and The Elderly and The Working poor are lazy and have no responsibility.

  • FreedomFighter

    I lived thru Carter, it was dismal, then came Reagan and I was again proud to be an American. Reagan was dazzleing example of a good president.

    Now we have Obama, and it is dismal.

    Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.–John Adams

    Laus Deo
    Semper FI

    • Dave67

      facts are stubborn things.

      tripling of our debt
      Iran-contra
      Allowing 200 Marines to be blown up with no response
      Stagnation of middle class and poor wages while the wealthy’s skyrocketed.. (but we will make it easier to hang yourself with credit cards)
      ketchup as a vegtable
      The most corrupt administration in our lifetime besides Nixon.

      Reagan was the personification of style over substance and he led us down the path where we are today.

      I used to be a Young Republican in college and I voted for him. I seriously regret that vote. He is no hero.

      • Caitalist at Birth

        You must have been a Rockefeller Republican, which is another form of totalitarianism dating back to the likes of Lincoln, Nixon, G, H. W,. Bush, and Teddy Roosevelt.

      • Dave67

        Caitalist at Birth,

        Please review what the tern “totalitarian” means because its clear you have no clue. Castro was totalitarian, Saudi Arabia is totalitarian…

        The United States has never been anywhere close to totalitarian. I do wish the rightists would understand the big words that they throw around.

      • FreedomFighter

        Sorry Dave67, you spew garbage as fact:

        Nobody allowed an attack on 200 marines, terrorists rarely ask permission. For the rest of your diatrab, investigation reveals the things you claim as “fact” on face values, have like an onion layers of “fact” and as you dig deeper you always seem to find a elite progressive down that rabbit hole.

        Im not 20 with no concept of history, I was living during these times and no amount of a rewrite by you will change that.

        Reagan was not perfect, but was exceptional as a president, loved America and American values and if he were running against Obama he would win in a landslide of unimaginalbe degree.

        Laus Deo
        Semper FI

      • Dave67

        And FF so was I. It is a fact that Reagan did nothing in response for that attack. His administration was corrupt, he did us no long term economic favors.

        He was a good cheerleader as long as you didn’t bother to look at the details.

      • eddie47d

        Freedom Fighter if it wasn’t allowed (241 killed),(which it was because of lack of security) then you and your cohorts have no grounds in which to attack Obama on Benghazi (4 killed). I think you are ignoring historical facts to rewrite your own lopsided agenda.

  • http://www.libertarianboard.com reality

    Walter, Obama has spent more than Bush and has increase the deficit and debt. He’s also raied taxes on businesses – something he said he wouldn’t do during a recesion because it would hurt jobs and economic growth…but he did it anyway. Obama owns this mess and he made a bad situation worse.

    • Dave67

      Name the spending that put him spending more than Bush 2 please. Be specific.

      Do you know what happens to Gov tax receipts during a recession?

      How about spending on the social programs that get people retrained and back to work, how about programs that prevent people from starving when they can’t find a job??

      • Caitalist at Birth

        Who’s money are you talking about spending? Somebody else can pay for it. Right? The deficit spending will lead to a devaluation of the dollar. It is now worth around 7 cents compared to 100 years ago. Thank God for the increase in productivity or we would all be living in cardboard shacks. Where do you think the money to pay for your fantasies will come from when you have destroyed all of the producers? You need to read “Animal Farm” by George Orwell. It provides a perfect analogy that even you can understand if you open your mind.

      • Dave67

        Caitalist at Birth,

        Please stay on point. The money we spend is ours, it was ours when Reagan spent us into oblivion, it was ours when Bush used 9-11 to get us into Iraq.

        Its called being in a society, Libertarians may not care about the country but the rest of us do. It takes money to make a society run in a developed country. You can either pay for what you spend or put it on credit. Reagan kicked “putting things on credit” into high gear.

      • Charlie R

        Dave67:
        Sorry to say that if someone has to explain how Obama has out spent every other president put together you missed the details in the news.
        Here is a clue, SIXTEEN TRILLION and GROWING

        Soon people will become very aware of Obamas impact the wallet and discover that choices that were taken for granted are forever gone.

        Consider this:
        Every time the government makes a law … government gains more control and we lose freedom.
        Every time the government raises taxes they get more “wasteful buying power” and we have less disposable income.

        How much longer do we wish to feed this BEAST?

        • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

          Charlie R say ; “Sorry to say that if someone has to explain how Obama has out spent every other president put together you missed the details in the news.”

          I say, ” So you are sorry that we can’t all drink for the same poisoned well? ”

          “Well Charlie if you wish to be and stay misinformed that is your right”. ” It’s right that I would never deny you as it is guaranteed by our constitution and it works very well for the rest of us”.

          “How else could we get people to buy Edsels and ocean front property in Arizona or defeat you in elections?”

          “Why don’t we up that number to say, 20 trillion that Obama has spent, just for more effect?”

  • mohican

    Did the 47% comment help Obama win? maybe.

    With lower overall voter turnout in 2012 compared to 2008, Romney got 1 million less votes than McCain did in 2008.

    Romney lost because he was an unappealing candidate who had a guvenatorial record he could not run away from.

    Romney lost because of his treatment of primary opponents and the heavy handed tactics of the Republican party, especially leading up to and including the convention.

    Many people, myself included walked away from the Republican Party in 2008, and were repulsed in both 2008 and 2012 at the parties treatment of Ron Paul.

    Jimmy Four was as much an amusing sideshow as he was a campaign killer.

    • rendarsmith

      I know. I can’t believe people are still making these excuses as to why Romney lost. Is it really that hard to figure out?

    • Caitalist at Birth

      Why must you continue to bang your head against the proverbial brick wall? Ron Paul is not now, nor has he ever been electable to any national office. You libertarians continue to beat this dead horse. Why? Why? Why/

      • Bob666

        Yo CAB,
        While you are correct that Ron Paul was difficult to elect, we supported him because he lacked the “Ick” of the GOP & DNC which have been purchased and are now owned by special interest.

        Does that answer your question?

      • rendarsmith

        Well, how did nominating Romney work out for you?

        • Bob666

          Yo Radar,
          Good response-sad truth and quite funny, but far more in touch than WAR.

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Caitalist at Birth,

        You write: “Ron Paul is not now, nor has he ever been electable to any national office.” Ron Paul would have been electable if he had opposed Obama alone, as he would have drawn votes from the Conservatives, from Republicans and from the pro-civil liberty, anti-war left. However, Republican and MSM dirty tricks prevented it from happening. Romney was never electable and I told you that many times.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • Dave67

        Bob L,

        Ron Paul who I agree with on serveral issues could NEVER win. What is his biggest achievement in the House? Has he authored any bills that passed into laws? Until big money is out of the political process from the bottom, up…Ron Paul or a 3rd party candidate has no chance. Even if Paul was alone in the race. The corporatists that own the tea party and the GOP would never allow any threat to their dominance to achieve power.

        Romney would have been a complete disaster and I am thankful that this corporatist, tax evader elitest lost.

      • Average Joe

        Dave67 ,

        “Romney would have been a complete disaster and I am thankful that this corporatist, tax evader elitest lost.”

        No matter which of the two “media darlings” took the election the only losers were… the American people.

        AJ

        • Bob666

          Yo Joe,
          “No matter which of the two “media darlings” took the election the only losers were… the American people”.

          I would agree with you on that comment.

      • Dave67

        AJ,

        Then change the dynamic. Stop the biggest threat to this country. Big money in the political arena. I vote for people that want to clean up the system, not maintain the status quo.

      • TML

        Talk about beating a dead horse. Still parroting the same nonsense. Fascinating that even the mention of Ron Paul has such an effect on intellectually deficient minds.

      • Average Joe

        “AJ,

        Then change the dynamic. Stop the biggest threat to this country. Big money in the political arena.I vote for people that want to clean up the system, not maintain the status quo.”

        To do so will require real sacrifice. The only way to stop big money from involving itself in our political arena…is to stop them from having big money to involve themselves with. How pray tell can that be done?
        We all need to start voting…with our wallets. Remember, money is the only language that they speak fluently…other than power ( if they lose the money…they lose the power.
        Candidates will promise us the universe and all the bells an whistles to go with it…if we will only vote for them. Once elected, they have no more use for any of us…until the next election. On the other hand, if we all stop spending our money (buying their products , watching their networks , paying for their cable,phones, cars etc.) which keeps these big money entities in power…the money will dry up and so will the influence.
        The way I see it, if you are not willing to sacrifice a bit of luxury for a small amount of time to change our current political situation…then you don’t have any room to complain…because you are fueling the fire and are not part of the problem…you have become the problem. Starve the beast…it is the only logical way to approach the problem.
        Whatever they are selling…we aren’t buying……..

        AJ

      • APM

        Bob Said:

        Dear Caitalist at Birth,

        You write: “Ron Paul is not now, nor has he ever been electable to any national office.” Ron Paul would have been electable if he had opposed Obama alone, as he would have drawn votes from the Conservatives, from Republicans and from the pro-civil liberty, anti-war left. However, Republican and MSM dirty tricks prevented it from happening. Romney was never electable and I told you that many times.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

        __________________________________________________________________

        …and yes Bob, you told me basically the same thing, and yes, you were CORRECT!

        I hate it when I’m wrong, BUT, it happens!

        APN

  • jlmr

    this is horrible. but it does explain alot! carter IV will go down in history as the man who helped destroy america. this is mean to say but I hope he winds up needing help and gets turned down. evil breeds evil.

  • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

    No doubt that Carter was bad for America. He also gave Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac the lies of which we are suffering today. Reagan was good but Reagan never once vetoed a spending bill, In his presidency the natonal debt climbed to one trillion for the first time. Believe it or not Clinton was better for the economy. But that’s the past which we never seem to learn from. But Romney? For the economy Romney would have been better that the communist Obama no doubt but what about foreign policy? Now that we know longer follow the sage advise of the founders and poke our nose in everybodies business, our our foreign policy can bring about our demise as fast as the economy. Romney was and is smitten with Zionism, like Bush and Blair were and are. The Zionist movement was conceived in hell. It has NO scriptual backing. Even Orthodox Jews will tell you that. The Zionists in DC almost cost Hagel the appointment to secretary of defense/offense. If Romney had been elected, we would be at war with Iran with Russia and China at their side by how. Netanyahu has a ring in Reomney’s nose. The Zionist movement is pseydo political/religious. It has the power to cause men to die for it. Ask Bush and Blair. For the most part it controls Washington thinking. It and Obama’s communist thinking are at odds with each other. Netanyahu loathes Obama. For foreign policy Obama is better than Romney but when it comes to domestic policy Romney would of been better. Ron Paul would of been better than both by far. We were looking for cake and wanted to eat it to.

    • Caitalist at Birth

      Your ignorance of economic historical facts is astounding. Clinton had little to do with the economic success in the 90′s. He did however, have a great deal to do with the Housing Bubble and it’s predictable collapse. Care to debate the subject?

      • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

        Perhaps you should read the charts from Reagan on before debating me.

        • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

          Which charts ? As there are clearly two different reflections of the Reagan years. ~ Reagan cut taxes, raised taxes, shifted tax burdens, down sized, up scaled, deregulated, regulated while creating a borrow and spend economy and still could not stay in budget.

  • Bob666

    Well,
    WAR continues to approach life from the bubble seeing only part of the facts and using only part of the facts to sell snake oil.

    Romney lost because he lacked substance and could out flip-flop slick Willie. He let the GOP run his campaign and they catered to a demishing base which equals fewer votes.

    While the 47% issue was one of the final nails in his coffin, the GOP was nailing it shut with a nail gun. WAR only proves that he has a very limited view of reality and I do belive that limited view said that Romney would win by a land slide.

    A limited view of reality is a very sad thing.

    • Jana

      Bob666,
      I always said Romney was too nice and didn’t know how to fight fire with fire. He never answered any of his attackers which he should have.
      He just wasn’t devious enough to come up against the Chicago thuggery style election that was performed.
      I never doubted that Romney was smart in business, but not in tactics or government.

  • ibcamn

    i remember all the crap carter did,not good.and i suppose carters grandbrat went to a liberal progressive collage and learned plenty from his grandad!it shows!did not know it was a carter who turncoated on the United States,-again!!

    • Gary L

      The apples don’t fall far from the tree.

    • eddie47d

      So the grandson exposes the truth about what Romney really thinks about his fellow Americans and you call him a turncoat. Reagan also had plenty of faults so will you spend time calling him out. Not likely! You’re like two birds with those comments….cheap cheap!

      • APM

        Go change your TWEAT TWEAT Diapers Eddie. You must be a direct descendant of JC!

        APN

  • MNIce

    Mr. Root, just as it is unjust to condemn a son for the sins of his father, it is unfair to condemn Grandpa Carter for the deeds of his grandson. At most, he can be criticized for his approval of grandson Jimmy’s video. But giving him the blame for the re-inauguration of Mr. Obama? That’s a stretch.

    The video would have gone nowhere if there was not an element of truth to it. Mr. Romney called it correctly – half of the nation no longer wants to be American, but would rather live like the socialist kleptocracies of the Third World, with pretensions of emulating the socialist kleptocracies of Europe. When the government becomes an instrument to fulfill covetous desires, the nation has been stolen by thieves. Mr. Romney’s error was in underestimating how many thieves we have in the electorate.

    Don’t misunderstand, you liberals who kiss the outhouse after Mr. Obama uses it. I know you don’t believe you are thieves. You think you are so compassionate, kind and caring when you insist the government provide umpteen services for “the poor and disadvantaged.” But where does the money to provide for those services come from? It comes from the people who work hard to provide for their own families so they will not be public charges, and it’s taken from their pay before they can spend one dime on groceries for their children. It comes from inflationary printing, which devalues dollars around the world. This devaluation steals from the people of other nations, all poorer than our own, that have adopted the dollar as their currency because of its supposed trustworthiness. This includes Panama, Ecuador, the Philippines, and a number of tiny, resource-limited Pacific Island nations. Just remember that when you cheer for the latest expansion of the Unaffordable Care Act, you support draining what little savings an Ecuadoran farmer might have. Those who “do charity” with other people’s money taken by force are robbers just as much as those who entertain themselves with other people’s money taken by force.

    • Liberty Lover

      Outstanding comment, MNice. Lincoln once said you can’t fool all of the people all of the time. Obama laughed and said, you need only fool 51% of the people most of the time.

      • APM

        LL…SAD BUT TRUE!

        APN

    • Don 2

      You are right on with your comments. I’ll add that, unlike Americans who spend approx. 10% of their income on food, many of these people in poorer nations have to spend 50% of their income on food, and it is because of this intentional devaluing of the dollar by America, making their lives more miserable and desperate, that they have cause to hate America.

      But, who cares, just keep the printing presses running so I can keep my free Obamaphone…..

  • rendarsmith

    Romney to do to Obama what Reagan did to Carter? Romney isn’t even a conservative! When are Mr. Root and these other people going to figure out that ROMNEY LOST BECAUSE HE WAS ROMNEY! He didn’t win over the conservatives! Many conservatives didn’t even vote because they didn’t see any difference between Romney and Obama. Most Americans are sick of these proxy wars in the Middle East. Romney was gun-ho about starting a war with Iran! Why do you think so many conservatives supported Ron Paul? That comment exposed by Carter’s grandson did not lose the election for Romney. Choosing another Karl Rove crony RINO is what lost it. Quit making excuses! Listen to the voters and start nominating grass roots conservatives instead of these liberal RINOs! If you keep ignoring us, we WILL NOT vote for your candidate!

    • Jana

      rendarsmith,
      I agree.

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        I too agree with that summation , `Romney was rejected and rejected early ~ but the GOP machine promoted him anyway, And why I say, there is a major disconnect between the GOP and the average American voter today.

        The GOP machine represent corporate interest first and foremost, the will of the people coming in a distant second.

  • http://www.facebook.com/spotmeows Michael McVey

    It wasn’t Carter’s fault. It is always what happens when the GOP establishment chooses the candidate. It happened with McVain in 2008, Rob the (public) Dole in 1996 and Carter’s own opponent in 1976.

  • Eddie G.

    I hated the Carter years and despise the Obama years even more. American voters well fulfill what P.T. Barnum said,”There’s a sucker born every minute”. Years ago people were smarter,after one miserable term they fired Carter. Now we’re stuck with the aftermath of a fraudulent rigged election plus re-run stupid voters for 4 more years of Obama and his coup of overthrowing this country. So far with the help of a milquetoast congress he’s succeeding especially by reviving the gun issue which has been dead for years with no problems until some mass shootings by paid for administration loonies fed fuel to the gun haters including Obama himself. History shows everytime in every totalitarian regime that public disarmament is number one priority to establish absolute rule over the people.

    • Caitalist at Birth

      Obama is ten times worse than Carter. It will be the worst time in Americas history since the Civil War.

      • Dave67

        LOL! Ok there John Wayne… Conservatives have nothing to do with the current gridlock, the economic conditions in this country at all…

        Obama got elected and immediately became dictator which is why the GOP has engaged in record filibusters in the senate, has held up record judicial appointments and prevented much of what Obama wanted to do… because OBAMA HAS ABSOLUTE POWER!!!!!

        Scary stuff indeed.

        • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Darwan Winkler

          Dave 67 says, “because OBAMA HAS ABSOLUTE POWER!!!!!”

          I say, That is simply not true, for he does not.

      • Dave67

        Darwan,

        Oh yes Obama does… Ask any of the right wing nutballs on this site. He has absolute power. He alone has taken your liberty. He alone has spent all the money we don’t have. He killed Seal team 6 in Afghanistan, He alone has stopped the recovery.

        Obama is evil. GWB is persona non grata and Ronnie Reagan was a saint.

        If you don’t understand that, then you don’t listen to the conservative propaganda that gets spouted here every day.

      • APN

        Well DW, not yet, but the little boy-king is steadily working at it.

        APN

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        “If you don’t understand that, then you don’t listen to the conservative propaganda that gets spouted here every day.”

        I gave up both TV and radio media some time back, ~finding it inaccurate, depressing and mean spirited and often three days behind print.

        If something is afoot and on going ~ I might watch.

        Things I can’t do anything about, ~ there is little need to be “ahead” of the story. Too much speculation and slant. There’s just too many “grassy knolls” and “red herrings”.

        Like this man they speak of, coming forward and claiming responsibility for Bengasi. ~ He could be a decoy and running interference for someone else. Such information must be confirmed by more then one or two creditable sources. All the pieces to the puzzle must fit ~ not one or two.

  • harleydavidson

    Had obama not gotten re-elected, obama would have been in contention with Carter for the worst president title. Carter could have shaken off the title of the worst president. But because of his grandson, Carter once again hold on to the title of the worst president in history. You gotta love grandsons.

    • Tim L.

      Sorry to interrupt your delusion dude, but Bushy wins worst president title, hands down, no matter how you try to twist it.

  • Don 2

    Visitor’s, instead of wasting your time reading all these postings from the Alinsky radicals feverishly trying to defend this loser of a president, just go to “The Jimmy Carter Un-Presidential Library” – Dedicated to the worst president and worst ex-president in U.S. History!

    http://tmq2.wordpress.com/the-jimmy-carter-un-presidential-library/

    • Dave67

      Extremely biased propaganda is so much better than factual info isn’t it Don?

    • Bob666

      Yo Don,
      Does “W” have a simular site?

    • eddie47d

      Don Hermann Goering has spoken for the reich wingers as their official propaganda minister! or did Wayne already do that?

    • Average Joe

      Nice fishing…I se you caught a couple of them already….Looks ike a couple of bottom feeders to me…mucksuckers…..lol

      AJ

      • Dave67

        How DARE anyone have a different opinion right? How DARE anyone counter a right wing propagandist right?

        Unless, you go along and say YES to all the conservative babble, you are a bottomfeeder.

        I gotcha.

      • eddie47d

        I see Don Goering’s 1st Lt showed up to form the proverbial firing squad in support of the authors debauchery of the facts!

    • Average Joe

      Make that three bottom feeding… mudsuckers caught (sorry, eddies’post hadn’t appeared when I posted).

      “Dave67 says:

      February 28, 2013 at 11:11 am

      How DARE anyone have a different opinion right? How DARE anyone counter a right wing propagandist right?”

      Feel free to have any opinion you so desire, nobody here is stopping you (obviously, because you’re still whining).

      “eddie47d says:

      February 28, 2013 at 11:39 am

      I see Don Goering’s 1st Lt showed up to form the proverbial firing squad in support of the authors debauchery of the facts!”

      A firing squad? From the the guy who wets his pants at the mention of firearms ( okay, go change)….dang eddie, you get funnier everyday…but don’t quit your day job…clown school has not been kind to you….

      AJ

      • Dave67

        Sorry Avg Joe… the only whiners are the right wing loons who cry about all the freedoms they haven’t lost… the delusional who think Obama is trying to take their guns and the moronic who don’t understand history and economic failure that was 40 years in the making but blame Obama for not doing anything to fix the mess (the filibuster Senate and the “just say NO” House do not even register)

        That describes your type of buffoonery doesn’t it AJ?

      • APM

        AJ, all I can say is “SWEEEEEEEEEEET!!”

        APN

      • Average Joe

        Dave67,

        If your going to engage iin a battle of wit…in the future…please arm yourself…… If you’re going to try to be a smartass, first you must be smart…otherwise you’re just an……

        AJ

        • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

          Average Joe says,

          “Dave67,
          “If your going to engage in a battle of wit…in the future…please arm yourself”

          I say, “Hmm? Witt? ~ just wits? no hard facts? ~ My moneys on Dave67. Sorry. ~

          Keep it above the belt, shake hands and come out fighting ~ I’d enjoy the match-up and contest.”

      • Average Joe

        Deerinwater,

        Please attempt to keep up with the conversation…nothing , I repeat nothing within the whole of the conversation required any “Facts”……. Someone left out the “smart”…and it wasn’t me….I guess you were just being an….

        AJ

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        Average Joe, are you saying that such a statement as ; ““The Jimmy Carter Un-Presidential Library” – Dedicated to the worst president and worst ex-president in U.S. History!”

        ~ is somehow beyond any response other then too support and defend while the rest of us should just be silent ?

        I don’t think so Tail gunner Joe! ~

        The “Right” has enjoyed a 30 year field day of kicking Carter around ~ and if any of us wish to take this “solicited opportunity to defend Jimmy Carter with facts or simply wit, I ask you, ~ WHY should we Not? What is it that affords you or this site “Immunity” from a stinging rebuttal?

        JC Quotes;

        “Government is a contrivance of human wisdom to provide for human wants. People have the right to expect that these wants will be provided for by this wisdom.”

        –JIMMY CARTER

        “Human identity is no longer defined by what one does but rather by what one owns.”
        ― Jimmy Carter

        “If you fear making anyone mad, then you ultimately probe for the lowest common denominator of human achievement.”
        Jimmy Carter

        ““America did not invent human rights. In a very real sense, it is the other way around. Human rights invented America.”
        Jimmy Carter

        ““Unless both sides win, no agreement can be permanent.”
        Jimmy Carter

        ““We should live our lives as though Christ were coming this afternoon”
        Jimmy Carter

        “We must make it clear that a platform of ‘I hate gay men and women’ is not a way to become president of the United States.”
        Jimmy Carter

        “Republicans are men of narrow vision, who are afraid of the future.”
        Jimmy Carter

        “War may sometimes be a necessary evil. But no matter how necessary, it is always an evil, never good. We will not learn how to live together in peace by killing each other’s children.”
        Jimmy Carter

        “Globalization, as defined by rich people like us, is a very nice thing… you are talking about the Internet, you are talking about cell phones, you are talking about computers. This doesn’t affect two-thirds of the people of the world.”
        Jimmy Carter

        “I say to you quite frankly that the time for racial discrimination is over.”
        Jimmy Carter

        “I think what’s going on in Guantanamo Bay and other places is a disgrace to the U.S.A. I wouldn’t say it’s the cause of terrorism, but it has given impetus and excuses to potential terrorists to lash out at our country and justify their despicable acts.”
        Jimmy Carter

        “I thought then, and I think now, that the invasion of Iraq was unnecessary and unjust. And I think the premises on which it was launched were false.”
        Jimmy Carter

        “I have often wanted to drown my troubles, but I can’t get my wife to go swimming.”
        Jimmy Carter

        • Bob666

          Yo Deer,
          While I did not vote for Carter, but he is without doubt a decent human being and I respect his steadfast adherence to his personal beliefs. My three favorites are:

          ““America did not invent human rights. In a very real sense, it is the other way around. Human rights invented America.”
          Jimmy Carter

          ““Unless both sides win, no agreement can be permanent.”
          Jimmy Carter

          ““We should live our lives as though Christ were coming this afternoon”
          Jimmy Carter

          As far as past presidents go, there has been no better “past” president in his personal conduct after the Whitehouse is in the rear view mirror.

  • Ken10

    If Mr Root can blame President Carter for President Obama’s second term victory (and its accompanying horror) I guess I don’t have to feel so bad about blaming President (such as he was) George W. Bush for the Incredible mess we find ourselves in. It’s soooo much more fresh in memory. Let’s hear something from Mr Root about he origins of Liberalism in say, Genesis.

    • Jana

      Ken10,
      Are you joking?
      You have never felt bad about blaming Bush for anything.

      • Tim L.

        Well, there is an awful lot to blame W for, in case you didn’t notice.

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        Yeah, ~ I think that he was joking ~ big hickeys takes a long time to go away. ~ W was forced into action early and had 7 good hickey making years to leave his mark.

  • Stuart C. Ashley

    Hi Wayne;
    Although your statement that Obama is Carter reincarnated is plausable; Romney is no modern-day Reagan. Romney has more in common with Obama than he does with Reagan. The only one with the right ethic to save the USA, but apparently not the leadership ability, was Ron Paul. Maybe there is some hope in Rand. Time will tell.
    Cheers! Stu.

    • Adolf Schmidt

      I still think under the names on the ballot, they should put “None of the above”! Maybe we could get someone with some integrity in office! We should also have each candidate draft their own version of Constitution to see where they stand, and hold them to it! An IQ test wouldn’t hurt either.

  • http://www.facebook.com/russell.jenkins.1232 Russell Jenkins

    If you really want to make the comparison between Carter and Obama, just look at the 1979 Iranian hostage crisis. Carter failed in an attempt to rescue these hostages. if he had succeed, he would have likely won re-election. Thirty three years later, our Benghazi consulate was attacked by a group Obama had just given guns to…. the ones they used. There was a small army of security forces at the safe house that were ordered to “stand down”. Except, two of those soldiers defied that order and rescued all but two at the consulate…. TWO! They paid with their lives for doing what was right. If all two dozen staff members had been taken hostage only to rescued a few weeks later by those security forces, it would have propelled Obama to a landslide victory in the election. Instead, it took a Hurricane and voter fraud to win it. Why else do you think they made desperate screw ups like blaming this on a You Tube video? They were caught, exposed, and no one reported the truth. Obama would stand trial for capital crimes if this was ever really investigated.

    • eddie47d

      Reagan had those hostages handed to him on a silver platter after Carter did all the negotiations and rescue attempts. Reagan also got a free pass when those 241 Marines died because of lack of security. Reagan also got a free pass after the Lebanon embassy was attacked and 11 inside the compound lost their lives. More deaths but the Russell Jenkins don’t care because he’s an arrogant Republican attacking someone who lost only four on his watch. The only fraud is you Republicans grandstanding on the issues and throwing the political football around.

      • http://aol CommonSense4America

        The Iranian ragheads gave the hostages back when Reagan took office because they knew that he would not put up with their sh-t.

        • Bob666

          Yo CS4A,
          And they knew Regan would sell arms to fight the commie boogy man?

          • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Darwan Winkler

            CommonSense4America says;
            “The Iranian ragheads gave the hostages back when Reagan took office because they knew that he would not put up with their sh-t.”

            I take it that you don’t know the whole story?

            I would offer you a link to guide you on ~ but why bother? Waste of time.

            I liked Reagan ~ but he really wasn’t all that great my friend.

      • Dave67

        Common,

        LOL! Reagan was a coward…. See the attack in Lebanon and his response.

        But don’t change… don’t you every change… comedy like that is priceless.

      • eddie47d

        Carter didn’t either but Americans are so impatient and eager with threats of war. Boy has that been proven time and time again.

    • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Darwan Winkler

      Quote; “. Carter failed in an attempt to rescue these hostages. if he had succeed, he would have likely won re-election. Thirty three years later, our Benghazi consulate was attacked by a group Obama had just given guns to…. the ones they used. ”

      I say, ~ you are playing fast and loose with the facts. ~ Carter didn’t fail, the military failed and Carter accepted responsibility for their effort.

      And the actors that killed Ambassador Stevenson has yet to located and apprehended, ~ so for you to know what weapons were used or where they got them is quite a stretch as the weapons could have came from as many as 6 to 16 different sources.

      Obama’s administration did aid the international forces that that aided in the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi or Colonel Gaddafi Kalphy ., ~ this is true and correct.

      This attempt to use language like words are hand grenades might work with the company that you keep, ~ but it won’t work here.

      • Charlie 69

        The “Gent” that organized the Benghazi raid has been interviewed by many news networks. It just seems Obama does not have the capability of “finding” him. PS He was seen sipping latte at a cafe miles from the building he destroyed. Get a life.

      • Jana

        Darwan,
        Carter did too fail!
        He had cut back the military budget so much that the equipment (helicopters) were in such a state of disrepair that the mission was doomed to start with. It takes good equipment for our men to practice with, which they didn’t have the equipment or practice. Ergo they failed.
        You bet it was Carter’s fault.

        • Bob666

          Yo Jana,
          respecfully-No, it was a flawed plan that failed. I’m not taking up for Carter, he really did blow as a president, just as “W” did.

      • Jana

        Bob666,
        You are right, it was a flawed plan. What makes people good at what they do? Practice. When the military is cut back like it was under Carter and like Obama wants to do the maneuvers and practicing of our military will cease to a great degree. Without that practice they are not efficient. My brother in law is in the military right now. He is a CW5 and he does maintenance on the different helicopters. He is already feeling the brunt of the cut backs because they can’t get the parts for repairs. Just like under Carter.

      • APM

        Darwin the monkey thinker strikes again, he said” say, ~ you are playing fast and loose with the facts. ~ Carter didn’t fail, the military failed and Carter accepted responsibility for their effort. ”

        I actually lived through JC’s DISASTER as the POTUS! He spent the majority of his time quoting his daughter Amie(A CHILD) on ADULT issues. He spent the rest of his time speaking about AMERICA as “The BREADBASKET” of the world.

        The term “FOOLISH” would be an understatement of the century when it comes to this man. I paid 14% interest on my first home loan under this very naive person. I was lucky because the less fortunate were paying up to 21% on their first mortgage!

        You have NO IDEA what you’re talking about because obviously YOU DID NOT LIVE under the VERY NAIVE PROGRESSIVE RULE of this person!….. AND, NO, HEXX NO, it was not a failure of our BRAVE MEN in the military that attempted to save our people in Iran! It was however, a complete FAILURE of a foolish man elected as the POTUS.

        BUT, Ronald Regan, a REAL AMERICAN PATRIOT and a REAL man came along, just in time, to save us from the FOOLISHNESS and projected WEAKNESS of Jimmy Carter.

        Obama will exceed him in HISTORY.

        APN

        PS> How did Ronald Regan deal with Iran? He didn’t have to because he made it VERY CLEAR that he WOULD NOT NEGOTIATE with a “Bunch of BARBARIANS! You think maybe that is the reason the hostages were released prior to him being sworn in as the POTUS?????????????

        • Bob666

          Yo APM
          “PS> How did Ronald Regan deal with Iran? He didn’t have to because he made it VERY CLEAR that he WOULD NOT NEGOTIATE with a “Bunch of BARBARIANS! You think maybe that is the reason the hostages were released prior to him being sworn in as the POTUS”

          Yes, Regan knew how to deal with Iran-he sold wepons to them & I voted for Regan-twice.

          Me thinks APM that you have the most selective memory on this board.

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Darwan Winkler

        APM says; I actually lived through JC’s DISASTER as the POTUS! ”

        Golly Gee Wally! ~ aren’t you the guy I told I wasn’t going to address anymore of your nonsense? Or was that APN? You sound the same with ~ superfluous comments.

        In any case, ~ I’m glad that you “actually” lived though Jimmy Carter’s tenure ~ or I suppose I’d be addressing a dead man or the “unborn” You know there is a lot of “unborn” that the GOP takes special interest in? They are Everywhere! They a more concern with the unborn than they are with the born!

        So tell us, ~just how difficult was it to live in the world of rising coffee and sugar prices, a downsized candy bar and $3.00 gasoline? It much have been a real b1tch!

        I guess by now that you actually buy you own food and cloths as well?

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Darwan Winkler

        Charlie 69 says:
        February 28, 2013 at 11:45 am
        “The “Gent” that organized the Benghazi raid has been interviewed by many news networks. It just seems Obama does not have the capability of “finding” him.”

        And you believe him? ~ How very cleaver of you Charlie! I guess you believe everything that you hear if it on TV.

        That could be part of the problem Charlie. ~ So we can depend on radical Muslim’s telling us the truth all the time or~ just if it’s on TV? ~

        These people love people like yourself. ~ wind you up and watch you go!

        I don’t watch television much ~ but I have not read anything about it, the lest you could do is offer a link if you wish to support your argument.

      • APN

        Darwin the monkey thinker said: So tell us, ~just how difficult was it to live in the world of rising coffee and sugar prices, a downsized candy bar and $3.00 gasoline? It much have been a real b1tch!

        I guess by now that you actually buy you own food and cloths as well?

        _______________________________________________________________

        Are you a THC addict or what? The price of a gallon of gas during RR Presidency averaged about $1.30 a gallon? Downsized candy bar? Who cares? You eat that Xhit? No wonder you’re stupid.

        Your last comment belongs to you, so answer it yourself, you seem to be proficient at doing so. Only a dumb progressive would rely on another person to provide such things.

        If you think JC was a even a fair President, well, you’re dumber than I thought!

        APN

        PS> WHAT IS IT WITH YOU AND THE TIDDELS??

        • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Darwan Winkler

          It’s DarwAn, ~ got it? I know it’s complicated ~ but you can do it!

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Darwan Winkler

        Janna say, “Darwan,
        Carter did too fail!
        He had cut back the military budget so much that the equipment (helicopters) were in such a state of disrepair that the mission was doomed to start with.”

        Well, ~ the mission failed Janna ~ as the copters attempted to land too close together on loose blowing sand ,the prop wash lifted the sand, creating a a zero visibility condition and the two collided, ~ crashed and burned. Sad, very sad. ~ We learned about loose soil and prop wash in Nam during the dry season. Somebody “forget” !

        President Carter accepted full responsibility, but it’s failure didn’t have anything to do with a cut defense budget, So I’m not sure why we are arguing.

        while on the other hand the 117th GOP lead Congress had cut military budget some 300 million dollars starting in 2009 and some suggest contracted security for Ambassadors suffers from it.

        ” Blaming Benghazi on Budget Cuts
        Ed Krayewski|Oct. 12, 2012 12:45 pm

        Democrats seized on a cut in embassy security funding to deflect criticism of the administration’s poor handling of the terrorist attack at the U.S. consulate in Benghazi on 9/11. The charge was brought up in a contentious congressional hearing on security failures in Benghazi and repeated last night by Vice President Joe Biden, who after saying they weren’t aware of requests for more security in Benghazi, pointed out “the congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for, number one. So much for the embassy security piece.”

        Republican Jason Chaffetz, on the committee that held hearings on Benghazi this week, acknowledged voting to cut embassy security funding:

        “Absolutely,” Chaffetz said. “Look we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have…15,000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 contractors, a private army there, for President Obama, in Baghdad. And we’re talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces. When you’re in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices. You have to prioritize things.”

        US military budget in 2009

        “The 2009 U.S. military budget accounts for approximately 40% of global arms spending. The 2012 budget is 6–7 times larger than the $106 billion military budget of China, and is more than the next twenty largest military spenders combined. The United States and its close allies are responsible for two-thirds to three-quarters of the world’s military spending (of which, in turn, the U.S. is responsible for the majority).[37][38][39]“

      • MLR

        Hi APM or APN
        How did Reagan deal with Iran? He gave them (our then enemy Iran) arms to fight our then friend, Iraq. With money he got from the drug deals with the Contra’s. AKA the Iran Contra affair, that Teflon Ron got away with. The hostages were released as Reagan was being sworn into office, a final insult to Carter by the ayatola Khomeny or however you spell it. Because of his hatred of Carter because of his Camp David accords, you know the PEACE deal between Egypt and Israel.

      • APN

        MLS said: “Because of his hatred of Carter because of his Camp David accords, you know the PEACE deal between Egypt and Israel.”

        What is your point MLS? Only a naive very FOOLISH person would try to establish a “Peace Treaty” between a bunch of Jackasses in the sand an Israel. What was the outcome of this great Carter Peace treaty?

        Have you ever studied the history of the ME????? The only thing that these jackasses in the sand understand is BRUTE FORCE and those who don’t understand 1,000′s of years of PROOF are doomed to repeat it. You know, those in the ME who consider a WOMAN a possession and below the standard of a DOG. How do you attain “Peace” with such Barbarians, as RR correctly called them? And I agree with him, give them plenty of weapons so maybe they can exterminate themselves….go figure?

        APN

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Darwan Winkler

        Yea, You are that same dumb sh1t ~ ~ You have no respect and no common sense ~ I’ll be glad when Mr. Livingston has had enough of your immature insolence. ~ And he will, ~ if you don’t clean it up. Mr. Livingston is a very tolerate man, but he has his limitation. There has been many a$$holes like you come and go. ~

        I was 32 when Carter was elected ~ and I was doing what most 32 year war vets were doing, ~ working , making more money the I’ve commanded since, living large and glad to be alive. The battle of inflation carried over from Nixon tenure had the nation in a vise.

        ~ While neither president created this inflation, ~ it was created by the nation standing down from the Viet Nam war and a shift in supply and demand forces. ~ In 1967 the year before I left for Nam, ~ I worked on a 500 pound bomb line that when 24/7 ~ making a nickel more an hour that my 40 year old electrician father did at the time. Every major machine shop in the US was “turning” 24/7 engaging in the war effort. My single longest work week was 76 hour. I had many weeks like that, ~ at $2.45 per hour and overtime pay it made for a fat check for the times.

        The merit of the Viet Nam war ~ another topic.

        All of this economic prosperity came to a slow stop by 1973~ as us war vets came home to no jobs and slow rising inflation. In 71 I went to work for the Sheriff Office as a deputy with a stellar DD214 in hand.

        The cost of imported crude and rising inflation was what Jimmy Carter inherited. ~ It could not have been avoided by either President, Nixon or Carter. For it was largely the war effort that fueled the economy during the 60′s and this economy remained flat until Ronnie Reagan started up the war machine again in the early 80′s ~ while it was not for all to enjoy but select American interest and supporting vendors that engaged in the construction of what the Federal government wished to buy. ~ So it was government spending that fueled Ronnie Reagan’s economy ~ anyway you wish to view it. Along with the sifting the tax burden off Corporate interest and onto “others” , business took flight once again.

        You must be a child to suggest that you lived through Jimmy Cater’s administration, like it might have been a grand feat. ~ to not remember what Nixon’s ~ rate freeze and wage freeze was like, ~ or when gasoline pegged the $3.00 mark. ~ or when a candy bar when to half it’s size for the same price overnight.

        Living though 4 years of Carter ~ was a piece of cake Mister. ~ This obsession that “opposition” has with wanting to demonize every sitting democrat ~ is nothing we haven’t heard before ~ why not attempting to actually look at history and current event in a unbiased time line ? View the world in a more objective matter. What has happened yesterday cannot be change or undone but if we can see the world as it really is, it helps us understand what we see happening today, only then does it all start making sense.

        But if you want to change or misconstrue history and see it differently because it suits you ~ you blind yourself to today. Which is what you are doing with what seems like nothing less then verminous hate for all opposition. Where did you learn to behave that way? What make that “acceptable behavior” for you? ~ are you mimicking want you entertain yourself with? ~

        This is not the Love Boat, I’m not looking for love, exciting and new. I wouldn’t have you for a friend to begin with~ but I’m not here to be your enemy either. I here to shine some light in dark corners. The more you hop and jump about in the light, the more light I will shine.

        Carter was not the most “effective” president that we have ever had ~ no argument there.

        But for the record, Jimmy Carter was a very bright man, one of the brightest presidents we’ve had in fact.

        IQ rating

        147 Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)

        132 Harry Truman (D)

        122 Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)

        174 John F. Kennedy (D)

        126 Lyndon B. Johnson (D)

        155 Richard M. Nixon (R)

        121 Gerald R. Ford (R)

        176 James E. Carter (D)

        105 Ronald W. Reagan (R)

        98 George H. W. Bush (R)

        182 William J. Clinton (D)

        91 George W. Bush (R)

        http://www.blogforarizona.com/blog/2007/01/presidential_iq.html

        • Bob666

          Yo Darwin,
          Reading your post took me down memory lane. Hyper inflation was the new problem of that era and Nixon’s economic policies of Phase 1, Phase 2 & Phase 3 with price controls, kinda odd that we have never seen that policy sense?

          Times are dificult now, but those times were extra scary times. I’m going to bed to have a bad dream about Trickey-Dickey “I am not a crook” Nixon (and yea,I voted for him).

      • http://www.facebook.com/russell.jenkins.1232 Russell Jenkins

        Actually it is liberal idiots who throw around the football, playin fast and loose with the facts expecting intelligent people not to look deeper for the facts. A few weeks into the Benghazi scandal it was exposed that the week prior to the attack, the group responsible received weapons from the US. If you watched anything other than MSNBC, you would know that. i do speculate on my views but that is because one can only speculate when so much remains repressed and hidden. But I will tell you this, I have heard no better reason why Benghazi happened, unless you want to go back to that You Tube story.
        As for Carter, as I remember it was 8 lost and it is just typical for liberals when they are backed into a corner by the facts to point at a Republican and say, “But, he did this or that” as if it makes it all OK for his guy. Carter was a disaster to our economy and a weak fool in the office who, as Commander in Chief WAS commander of the military and responsible for the deaths of those men. But, at least he tried to send a rescue for hostages and failed. I will give him credit for trying. Better than organizing the taking himself for the sake of an election which is what I think Obizmal did.
        All you ever hear from liberals is, Bush did this, Regan did that, so let Obama do what ever he wants to the total destruction of our country. Frankly I am tired of the wishy washy weak minded occupiers who can’t even debate actual facts, just point and blame someone else.

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Darwan Winkler

        APN says ” Only a naive very FOOLISH person would try to establish a “Peace Treaty” between a bunch of Jackasses in the sand an Israel. What was the outcome of this great Carter Peace treaty? ( peace between Israel and Egypt that is still honored today even with the whole region on fire)

        Have you ever studied the history of the ME????? The only thing that these jackasses in the sand understand is BRUTE FORCE and those who don’t understand 1,000′s of years of PROOF are doomed to repeat it.” ~~~~ Middle East? have you? all of it? ~ The Middle East is a rather large piece of real-estate and 1000 years is but a blink in time. I’m fairly certain i have not studied it all.

        Our bible tells us, ~ What Jesus Said About Peace, most people think he was a pretty smart guy on such things.

        Matthew 5:9 “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.”

        Mark 9:50 Salt is good, but if the salt has lost its saltiness, how will you make it salty again? Have salt in yourselves, and be at peace with one another.”

        Luke 6:27 “But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,

        Romans 12:17 Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all.

        1 Corinthians 7:15 But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace.
        James 3:18 And a harvest of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

        I say, ~ War maybe hell but it’s easier to have than peace on this side of the grave.

        We Work for peace or fight for hell, ~ it’s a choice, a choice both the wise and foolish make.

        I was in a Cat house off Canal Street in Saigon, and someone had wrote on the bathroom wall, “Fighting for peace is like f-cking for virginity” ~ that still sticks in my mind today. Of all places to find wisdom, who would think of a whore house on Canal Street, Saigon.

        I would agree with APN, for a Muslim extremist there is no peace ~ but allow that to be their choice and not ours.

        Don’t be found guilty of making no attempt for peace.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Darwan, you should have posted the rest of that clip. It’s fun to read (and makes the point that Carter’s IQ is the only real one on the list—-the others were “cooked” a bit in the study.) Here it is:

        I have to wonder if there is a confirmation bias (wishful thinking) in this study. I mean, really, Johnson smarter than Eisenhower? Get real.But Jimmy Carter’s IQ is the only actual IQ score here; he released his IQ test scores to the public (that man is scary smart).

        Purely based on subjective and completely unscientific criteria (call it a hunch), I would say that Truman is overrated, Eisenhower is way underrated, Kennedy is overrated, Ford is overrated, H.W. Bush is underrated, and W. Bush is way overrated (that man used to be pretty normal when he was Gov. of Texas, but now he’s high-function mentally-handicapped and couldn’t possibly be out of the 70s).

        Since the fun here is to slap arbitrary and subjectively determined IQs on public figures, let’s do some potential future Presidents, shall we?

        181 Albert Gore (always destined to be second to Bill)

        225 Hillary Clinton (30 of Bill’s points were actually borrowed from Hillary)

        180 Barrak Obama (same number of degrees he’s turned on running for President in ’08)

        300 John Kerry (which is why normal folk can’t understand anything he says)

        100 John Edwards (his score is actually 178, but he insisted that he only get an average score in solidarity with the common man)

        148 John McCain (pre-hug)

        91 John McCain (post-hug. It seems to have rubbed off…)

        100 or 50 Mitt Romney (he can’t decide whether he’s an average blue or red stater)

        119 Rudy Guilliani (reverse the score for a big surprise)

        infinity Sam Brownback (God helped him on the test)

        101 Newt Gingrich (blames Democrats for rigging the test, claims his actual score is higher than Brownback’s)

  • eddie47d

    Greg Murphy (facebook) accused someone of being a taker because that person said that red states receive more government subsidies. The top 10 states that receives those subsidies are N Mexico,Mississippi,,Alaska,Louisiana,,W Virginia,N Dakota,Alabama,S Dakota,Virginia and Kentucky. 9-1 RED states and the lone blue state has several Indian reservations and military bases. Alot of 47%ers in those states!

    • alpha-lemming

      Reminded of the quote…..”There are lies, damned lies, and statistics”. Look at the numbers, not the population percentages. In terms of numbers, NYC all by itself recieves more subsidies than the top 5 red states…COMBINED. Little slights of hand, and missing the forest because of the trees manipulation like this is why you’ll always hold a warm spot in our hearts as our “Special ED(die)” rep.

      • Dave67

        Alpha, And they may more into the Fed Gov than those states COMBINED. IL, NY and CA are subsidizing the taker states in the south and midwest. The only reason TX is not is because they are fleecing the country with their oil money.

        Too bad most conservative’s actions are not consistant with their rhetoric.

      • eddie47d

        Yes Alpha those subsidies do add up in red states. Oil subsidies, military subsidies, corn and wheat subsidies and so forth. There was no slight of hands which you are trying to pull out!

  • steve in AZ

    “Mitt Romney was the perfect man to save America”? OMG. Precludes any chance whatsoever that I would read the kool-aid or watch the video. Get a grip, neo-con.

    • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

      Yeah, I was surprised to read that as well. ~ Mitt Romney was a walking contraction that was oblivious to the struggle that 90% of Americans are confronted with, insulated by abundance his entire life. ~

      I say, “Good for him but not my kind of guy for leadership material”. Our world is seen in the abstract by Mitt Romney. I do believe that Mitt wanted to fit in and be liked, ~but the separation just too wide. Mitt was void a reference point to connect with most Americans. Even Richard Nixon was a much better people person.

      Mitt was constantly attempting to find common ground, ~ He liked trees, he liked hotdogs, he like cars, ~ and stated so! If he’d made it to Louisiana, he’d liked watermelons ~ well? ~ what’s not to like about such things?

      He never managed to reach beyond the insulation of entitlement and connect with the average American.

      This places Mr. Root is sort of a odd position really, ~ how did Mitt Romney ever appeal to him? ~ was it the wealth, ~ the illusion of being a big winner? of being cleaver? What was it that sold Mitt Romney to Mr. Root? ~~ or was it simply being the last man standing in a contrived GOP run-off and he had no other choice?

  • Nick Czudy

    Wayne Allen Root, As usual you have not pulled your head out of your a*s yet. You are foaming the same hate and lies that was evident from before the election.
    The people that follow you, unfortunately will eat up your hateful rhetoric. As you were talking you choked a few times and your mouth was foaming. The hatred was so self evident from your choking. You could hardly contain your hate. Why do you and your followers hate so much?

    You always paint Obama as an extreme leftist. I have never seen the slightest indication of being an extreme leftie. He sits somewhere in the middle with everything that he has said and done. He has taken a lot of flack from his more extreme members of the DMC. He has taken the massive spending that previous GOP admins have racked up and has steadily been reducing spending. That facts are on the web. You do know how to look up the facts don’t you?
    He has never ever, talked about wanting a European type of socialism. That wish has only come from the Rightie pundits, like you, as it seems you must yearn for him to go in that direction. Show just a single time when he has yearned for extreme left socialism. Go ahead, I dare you.
    From what Obama has accomplished in the last 4 years, he already is poised to be the best President ever. It is no doubt that Bush is the worst.
    If Mitt, the *wit* got in, there would be massive more unemployment and the top 1% would never have to work again, as he would be milking the middle class to keep lining their bank accounts, with more money.
    The GOP obstructionists have done everything possible to obstruct and to sink this country, yet with even with all of these negative forces, the country is progressing to a new high in economic growth and a steady path to paying back the countries debt.
    Just ask your GOP compatriots to get out of the way and let Obama do the work that the GOP do not want to do.
    JImmy Carter’s grandson, did the most important service in the last election, by showing the American public, what a lyer and hypocrite, Mitt Romney really was. He did us all a big favor.
    So just as accurate your election predictions were Wayne, this rant of yours is just as off the mark. What I do not understand is how you manage to prosper, when you are so off the mark. I guess there are enough stupid people that think like you do, that are willing to support your crazy views.
    I must say that the whole time I was listening to your rant and watching you foam and choke, I was laughing inside. I will give you credit for starting my day with a hearty laugh. Thanks! Nick Cz

    • http://aol CommonSense4America

      Like all good leaders, Mao, Stalin, Hitler, especially Hitler, Obama SOUNDS good. His unspoken goals are terrible, his actions are just the opposite of his words. Unfortunatly, he does make Jimmy Carter look good.

      • Nick Czudy

        Hi Common Sense.
        Yes Obama talks pretty good. His deeds follow his talk. It is obvious that you are worried and paranoid. Can you tell me how Obama’s actions have not backed up his words?

        He saved the USA out of the worst recession since the great depression. It took money to stimulate the economy, But compared to the rest of the world, his actions have keep the USA at the top of the rebound.
        He has enacted many new laws to give equality to many Americans. He has gotten us out of 2 wars and kept us out of two others. He got Bin Laden.

        He has reduced the deficit over the last 4 years and is well along the way to balancing out deficit and starting the long road to reduce our debt.
        I will remind you that this was done without the help of the GOP , but with a fierce opposition and outright obstruction of the GOP. So I would like you to tell me just how his words do not follow his deeds?

        Today the stock market is about to top its highest level in 5 years. If only the GOP would not keep manufacturing false, self inflicted wounds, then all of the cash that is sitting in Corporations bank accounts would be spent to really get the economy going.
        regards. You must have learned by now, that you cannot take anything that is said on this blog and coming from the right wing pundits as the truth. It is not in their best interested to tell the truth. But their lies are so easy to see. Everything that they say is contrary to reality. I know that you are smart enough to see past this politically charged rhetoric.

        Nick Cz

        • Motov

          What drugs are you on? He promised affordable health care that was paid for, reality says it will add much more to our debt. Unemployment/under-employment is at highest in years. We have more federal jobs than ever before, putting an even greater strain on the deficit, The two wars continue, with no end in sight. The deficit has grown at an unbelievable rate, His new tax hikes will further cripple an already anemic economy.
          Everything the Criminal at large has done, has not benefitted the Taxpayers at all but has made it worse. We cannot “spend ourselves to prosperity” , that has never worked and it never will. The only solution to fix our Government, and what ails this nation has retired.
          We blew that chance when the GOP elected itself a liberal candidate instead of a true constitutionally conservative.
          Now enjoy sky rocketing prices, as our dollar will lose its value as everything begins to crumble, because people like you have no clue that they are only puppets, following the orders of masters who are so wealthy, and evil, and incredibly deceptive to make you think everything is just peachy keen, while they rip you off of everything you got.

          • Nick Czudy

            well Motov, I will answer all of your comments and concerns.

            As far as health Care. The US has the worst system in the world. The GOP have been taking money from the Hospitals and HMO’s for decades to keep the current system in place. Here is a link for you to get educated on how hospitals have been raping and pillaging Americans for decades.
            http://healthland.time.com/2013/02/20/bitter-pill-why-medical-bills-are-killing-us/

            Read how under Medicare, that the government has beat down the abusive billing practices of the “Pricemaster” to pay a more reasonable amount. It is this overcharging that has made the US Health system the most expensive in the world. The only true solutions is Universal healthcare where all the costs are made at cost and not the huge profit that is accepted by you and most Americans in the current system. When Obama procured these savings, on the over billing abuse, it was tried to be shown as stealing money from Medicare to put into Obamacare. This was one of the big lies that Romney was pushing during the election.
            The only solution is to get health care out of the hands of profit gouging entrepreneurs and into the hands of a non profit government (We the people), This could be at the state level or if not, then at the federal level.

            The unemployment is not the worst in years. The job market has been improving consistently over the last 4 years. Even though the GOP has done everything possible to make Obama’s policies fail. Can you think of how much better the economy would be if they actually did something positive, instead of just obstructing? Obama’s policies did not fail. That was the big lie that the GOP was trying to use, during the election campaign. Most Americans did not accept that premise.

            “The two wars continue, with no end in sight” Motov, You are wrong, one war is done and the other is scheduled to end in one year. Bush started them and Obama is ending them. He also got Bin Laden.

            “The deficit has grown at an unbelievable rate, ” wrong again. It has been growing at a rate of 1.4% of the GDP. This is the lowest growth rate from the last three decades. That is another of the GOP lies. The deficit has been reduced over the last 4 years. Here is a link to the government chart that shows how Obama has steadily decreased the deficit.

            http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012-05-22/commentary/31802270_1_spending-federal-budget-drunken-sailor

            http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/05/22/11814072-the-spending-surge-that-never-happened?lite

            In a few more years he will balance the deficit and start paying back the debt. It is important to keep the economy growing and not spending cuts now, to increase revenues.
            Spending is not the problem now, it is jobs and the economy. When the jobs and investments increase, then the revenue will increase and the debt can be paid off. This process will take about 10 years. It cannot happen as fast as the recession hit us.

            To sum, up, if Mitt won the election, we would go back to where the 1% would be making a ton of money and paying little taxes and the middle class would be going downhill.
            If you constantly abuse the masses, eventually you will hit a brick wall and the nest step is revolution. That is the rode that the far right think is the best for everyone.

            Motov, you need to stop drinking the right wing bubble kool-aid and join the modern world.

          • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

            Impressive posting Nick, keep up the good work. There is just so much too do. ~ As soon as we get one fire stomped out, they lite two. They love to lite fires.

          • Motov

            You bought those lies? Obama and the status quo has deceived you.

          • Nick Czudy

            Motov. You said” You bought those lies? Obama and the status quo has deceived you.”

            Hmm I do not think so. I have an open mind and I can see what is happening around me.
            The one thing that I have learned in the last few years is that there is a pervasive trait that the Right Wing seems to live under a bubble and when someone there says something, you tend to believe it without question. I have come to the conclusion that the GOP lies 80% of the time and the Dems less at 20%.
            I have also come to the conclusion that there is a lot of money behind the GOP, coming from the likes of Sheldon, Nelson, the Health Care Industry, the oil companies, and the 1%. The purpose if clear. It is to influence the government to make laws that will ensure their continuing wealth to the chagrin of the rest of the country. Now I am not a socialist or a union sympathizer, but the way the system has been groomed from the previous GOP governments, it has made it almost impossible for the middle class to survive.
            Obama is making a fair and balanced approach to all of our problems. One just has to listen to all of his words and I know that I am listening to a moral and intelligent man.
            He seems to be the only adult in Washington.
            It is so obvious that the GOP. especially in congress are on a campaign to obstruct any thing positive to help America. These are not patriots, these are traitors.
            From what I remember of the tripe that you wrote, you fall in that area of 80% Right wing rhetoric. Keep an open mind and do some research to vet what you hear.
            regards Nick Cz

      • Jeremy Leochner

        There is a slight difference between Obama and Mao, Stalin and Hitler. The difference is when Obama says he wants to help people he actually wants too. That’s why he is denounced as a “politically correct do-gooder” with a “feel-good philosophy”.

      • Motov

        Mr. Cruze I certainly do not trust the GOP anymore than I trust the Democrats.
        In my mind both are actively destroying what is left of our Constitution.
        If you think Obozo really cares about this country, you are sadly mistaken.
        “Obozocare” was brought up to a vote before anyone had time to read it, and would take even longer to translate politician language to layman’s terms to understand it.
        One of Obozo’s promises was we would have time to examine legislation, before our representatives voted on it,… That was a lie! And now that it was passed, people are waking up to the fact things will get worst in medicine.

        Truth of the matter is you need to look beyond the 2 parties and find out who is really running the show, But my beliefs are considered whacko, so when the time comes where everything starts to fall apart,.. It was designed to fall apart, 100 years in the making.

        • R. Fine

          No one had a chance to read the Affordable Care Act? Are you kidding? The darn thing was argued about for 2 years or more. I watch Fox “News” daily and for months and months just about every commentator was slamming the ting every day. Of course the stupid thing about it was that as they slammed detail after detail they would then announce that no one had read it! I always wondered how they knew anything about something that supposedly they nor anyone else had read.

          • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

            “No one had a chance to read the Affordable Care Act? Are you kidding? The darn thing was argued about for 2 years or more. ”

            Correct ! ~ They may well have not read it, ~ but it wasn’t because they were denied the opportunity.

            The truth being, it was a huge piece of legislation and loaded with scary legal terms. ~ It would not be too difficult to find something to not like about it. ~ While the same could be said of every contract that I have found necessary to sign in my lifetime.

            The Affordable Health Care Act deals with some of the worst case scenario’s know to mankind ~ his health and his money and the lacking of either.

            The core of this Legislation was crafted by members of the GOP years prior.

            Life has some hard choices to make, that so many didn’t want to make them is understandable. ~ While things could not continue as they were. ~ Absorbent 300% increase of cost in just 20 years, ~ The practice of dropping the insured or denying the insured. ~ That the well employed enjoyed discounted cost via federal subsidies at the cost of all tax payers.

            This ability of Insurance providers to cheery pick who they elected to cover is over.

          • Bob666

            Yo Deer,
            I beleive that most of that legislation was crafted under Nixon? and basically updated?

      • Motov

        Oops sorry that was directed to Nick Czudy ,

  • tony newbill

    PEOPLE of EARTH , the ELITE DO NOT WANT a Supply-Side Growth Leader in Washington DC any more because of THIS ….. and what Prove this is all the Corruption and lack of Will to Run the USA within the Confinements of the US Constitution , its simple as THAT !!!!! Obama is stalling with all the theater and drama while the debt piles up and brings us closer and closer to Collapse so a NEW Economic system can take shape around the idea of Control YOU and YOUR Rate of Consumption .
    http://e360.yale.edu/feature/too_many_people_too_much_consumption/2041/

    • tony newbill

      This is why they want to Disarm you , then these controls can be forced without opposition . Heres a Little Preview of that kind of control , Listen to this Audio and how they are changing the minds of the Young to except the fundamental Change Obama talked about in 2008 , http://grist.org/population/crowd-control-7-billion-people-one-last-chance-to-save-the-planet/

    • tony newbill

      Jimmy Carter was trying to take down the Capital system back in the 1970s just like Obama is doing today only Obama is doing this on a worldwide scale along with the elite leaders of the world , thats why its going so well so far .

      When you listen to this video you will see the economic Policy Obama is following this lead .
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGk39KJ_MbA

    • tony newbill

      Here is the proof that while the debt Explodes this pattern of Economic growth will Do Nothing to Stop the Impending Collapse !!! Carter Must be Happy and is about to tell you to put on your sweater again !!!!!!!

      U.S. economy grew 0.1% in fourth quarter
      http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-economy-grew-01-in-fourth-quarter-2013-02-28?link=MW_latest_news

      • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

        The economy collapsed years ago but for some reason people are satisfied with paper instead of the commodity it supposedly represents. I don’t think anybody knows when the last Federal Reserve Note was printed that actually had value. I’m sure they have been counterfeit since the Shrub Bush’s time and since then, print paper and let the good times roll.

        • tony newbill

          they are running people out of a secure level of supply while fascinating them with a Paper Pacifier making promise after promise just like the Bolsheviks did to the Republicans around Russia to gain control of the Farm resources that once was accomplished then supply shortages took down the republics .

          History is getting ready to repeat itself people !!!!!

  • TML

    “Mitt Romney was poised to do to Obama exactly what Reagan did to Carter. A brilliant businessman and turnaround specialist, Romney was the perfect man to again save America.”

    Now that was funny!
    Wayne, you lose more and more credibility every time you write such idiocy.

    • hipshotpercusion

      TML. You must be on some seriously mind altering chemical, or you are snot nosed kid who wasn’t around(as I was)during the disaster of the Cater years. Come back when you clean up, or become a rational adult.

      • hipshotpercusion

        Sorry for the typos. the old eyes are not what they used to be. Hi Hi!

      • Bob666

        Yo Hipshot,
        “Mitt Romney was poised to do to Obama exactly what Reagan did to Carter. A brilliant businessman and turnaround specialist, Romney was the perfect man to again save America.” Now that was funny!”

        I got to say, He (TML) nailed this one down. Romney as not, nor ever could be another Regan.

      • TML

        hipshotpercusion says “TML. You must be on some seriously mind altering chemical, or you are snot nosed kid who wasn’t around(as I was)during the disaster of the Cater years. Come back when you clean up, or become a rational adult.”

        Perhaps train those old eyes on what I actually said, a little closer. My comment wasn’t in response to perceptions of the Carter years being disastrous or not, although I can certainly think of other Presidents who were historically worse than Carter. No, what I thought was comedic idiocy on the part of Wayne was comparing Romney to Reagan, and saying he [Romney] was the perfect man to save America – along with the fact that he is still going on about it after the election is long over. There was actually very little difference between Romney and Obama.

      • TML

        I also think it’s funny to watch him rail about Carter doubling the national deficit from $27 billion to $60 billion, when under Reagan the nominal national debt rose from $900 billion to $2.8 trillion during Reagan’s tenure (more than doubling), with an average national budget deficit per year of $237.5 billion, as compared to an average national budget deficit per year of $56.9 billion during Carter’s tenure.

        That along with many other claims tends to wane credibility for Wayne.

      • Old Henry

        Naw hipshot, it’s not you eyes. It’s your keebord. They mis-spell words.

      • MNIce

        TML: Don’t try to fool us by telling us this apple is a better quality than that orange. If you compare Reagan’s deficits with the amount of interest he had due on the debt at the end of the Carter administration, they were about the same after the first year or so. In other words this was a problem inherited from the previous administration, but Ronald Reagan was too much of a gentleman to publicly place blame for it. (Don’t forget that interest rates at the time were much higher than they are now, so that added up in a hurry.)

      • Dave67

        MNice,

        LOL read the SOTU speech from 1983. In it he is blaming the high unemployment rate and the general state of the economy on Carter.

        The right wing propaganda machine sure did a number on many people here.

      • TML

        MNIce says “If you compare Reagan’s deficits with the amount of interest he had due on the debt at the end of the Carter administration, they were about the same after the first year or so. In other words this was a problem inherited from the previous administration…”

        Isn’t that the same ridiculous claims that liberals give for Obama these days – that he inherited this mess? If such an argument isn’t viable for them, then it wouldn’t be viable concerning Reagan. If we accept it as a valid point, it must then follow that even Carter “inherited” his mess. Heck one could even say that the hostage crisis was inherited by the folly of Eisenhower in 1953. Every President could therefore say the problem during his administration are inherited and that we should attribute the problems during one Presidency completely to the prior administration in every instance, and follow that all the way back to Washington. That’s ridiculous. I say, just as Obama owns the problems, failures, and successes that exist under his administration; Reagan owns his, and Carter his. Enough with the blame games.

    • DEE

      LOL LOL I AGREE TML, HATERS NEVER MAKE SENSE. THEY TALK WITH SUCH LUNACY.

      • John Woodbury

        Yes you are right Dee and you sure do.

  • Sarah

    About the ’50s David Rockefeller started a group titled Bilderbergs made up of intellectual elite and world bankers. These are the NWO globalists working hard at making a one world government. They have made it look as thought we are voting for our own choice but not so. They are responsible for the two nominees. Haven’t you noticed that no matter who is president things stay the same. They front whoever runs, Republican or Democrat. Only the Bilderbergs win. They put someone in to bring down our economy as in Greece, Italy, France, Spain, etc. JFK wasn’t suppose to win. He was Assassinated. LBJ did as assigned “The Great Society” it started many social programs. I believe Nixon was set up. Ford did as assigned he initiated the subprime loans which was the beginning of our downfall. Carter kept going with it but failed. Reagan wasn’t suppose to win. They attempted assassination. Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, Obama were placed in order to bring down the economy. America and Israel are the only ones standing in their way of world domination. Please wake up America and see it for what it is otherwise Clinton II will be the next president. We will no longer be free.

    • http://www.bigsunday.com Truth

      The reason nothing changes in Washington is because the Republicans keep nominating a Progressive. The last Conservative in office was in 1923 when he cut spending by 50% and taxes by 50% which resulted in the Economy going up fast and has been coined the “Roaring 20′s”. The Progressives then got elected to Senate and Congress, wrecked the Economy and convinced America we needed FDR. We have had a Progressive President ever since and that includes all the Presidents.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        The problem truth is the same policies that brought about the “roaring twenties” made the stock market crash and the depression possible. The problem with so called Reaganomics or Trickle Down Economics is the flip side of it is the bust. Yes it can produce rapid economic development and wealth. But its built on shifting sand. Its built on peoples lack of questioning the economy. If at any point anyone asks a question the whole thing crumbles. You spoke of the last Conservative being Warren Harding. Well his policies brought both the roaring 20′s and the depression 30′s. That may have been why America turned towards progressives.

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        Yo DUMBO……yup, I mean you….”truth”…….

        Everything you think you know and made you possible, began in 1932…..

        The middle class did not appear until after 1945……and the debt was well over
        100% OF gnp….NOW GDP.

        Also, the “gold standard” actually caused the crash…..with a little help
        from Wall St. ( whole lotta help……in FACT….all of the help.)

        The sad part about your condition is that you listen to “scumbags” who tell
        you they can see the future………

        Would you pay $15, 000 for 150 pounds of granite?

        If yes, free free to continue to LISTEN to this “thing”.

    • Old Henry

      Sarah:

      Good post and good points…

      You are preaching to the choir, but you will surely be pillaged by our “resident” loony liberals. Just remember that liberalism is a mental illness and disregard them as the chattel they are.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        A political ideology is not a mental disease Old Henry. If it were than anyone who believes in any idea that stems from said ideology would be suffering from a mental illness.
        Merriam Websters defines Liberalism as:

        1
        : the quality or state of being liberal
        2
        a often capitalized : a movement in modern Protestantism emphasizing intellectual liberty and the spiritual and ethical content of Christianity
        b : a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition, the self-regulating market, and the gold standard
        c : a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties; specifically : such a philosophy that considers government as a crucial instrument for amelioration of social inequities (as those involving race, gender, or class)
        d capitalized : the principles and policies of a Liberal party

        So if liberalism is a mental illness than anyone who believes in or supports intellectual liberty and the spiritual and ethical content of Christianity, individual freedom from restraint, progress, the essential goodness of the human race and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties is someone who suffers from a mental illness.

    • Bob666

      Yo Sara,
      very interesting post, beyond words actually.

    • http://yahoo don

      kennedy went against the powerful who decided the way this county was run he was snuffed. he wanted to take the federal reserve out of the country. they had him snuffed. lbj was their man and gave it to all of them. in comes nixon another of their men. i believe he started the wheels rolling in the giveaway of our manufacturing base. the big bankers have decided all of our candidates almost all the way in the past history. it was said the bank of england manipulated the war of 1812. the nwo was in effect back then. any candidate who would have gotten in their way like perot, buchanan, ron paul never get chosen because the powerful manipulate the media and the voters are ignorant to most of it. buchanan lost to the elitist yes man bob dole. perot lost to the elitis yes man bush . ron paul lost to the elitist backed yes man romney. nader would have never made it either.right now we are also fooled by the idiot we are stuck with. rand paul better make a lot of waves to even have a half a chance in 16. the elitist backed hillary will probly go against owebunhole who is looking at a third term by bypassing our constitution. the elitist owned media woul probly try to push him out just like they did ron paul. the voters need to look at issues for the nex 3 years and ignore what happens in the 2016 beauty padgent like cappaigns which fool most of the voters and the are ignorant to fall for it every time. we the people could take this country back if people watch everything closely and would not let themselves be manipulated by th press. something needs to be done now. if someone who was not elite backed won in 2016 there would have to be a huge security detail so we would not have another jfk like killing by the elite murderers.

  • Oligarchic monkey

    Obamas policies are largely based on that monkey Romney and his policies in Massachusetts. Remember, the top 1% are statists….they love buying givernment to shield them from their shenanegans. The republican party is alliweed to be in place to absorb the energies of the segments of the population opposed to oligarchic, large government programs. Idiots like the first Bush, “no new taxes,” and then the degenerate “christian” goofball, his kid. Put them in place, they deliberately blow it, and then give us their full blown statist fool. Bush #41, Clinton(S). Bush #43, Barry. Come on, the toddling fool McCain?! Lovely candidates. Im sure the illiterates in the US will vote for one of these selections provided for them. Hey, look for the next criminal, Jeb Bush, as the.partys savior. Or better yet, how about Neil Bush? Savings and Loan anyone? Scum. All of them. Keep hopin. Keep votin. Fools.

  • Howard C

    Dear Lord!! People WAKE UP!! It is not about Republiars Vs. Democrooks. They are all in it together. Washington DC is owned by the FEDERAL RESERVE. All of the politicians are puppets and slaves to their masters. It’s like WWE wrestling… The Rock comes out and says “I hate you Undertaker and I’m gonna kick your butt” then the Undertaker comes out and says “I hate you more Rock and you are wrong because I am gonna kick your butt”… then they go have beers together after the show. These politicians act like they are completely against each other in front of the cameras, but behind closed doors they pat each other on the back while causing division amongst us the CITIZENS over petty domestic issues. ROMNEY=OBAMA. WE ARE ALL FUCCKKED because of these crooked bastards.

    • Bill

      Good comment Howard C,
      And the lemmings just fall in line towards the cliff

      • Motov

        Finally, someone who sees through the fog!
        When will we be tired of having two evils to vote for?
        When will we see that neither party has taken our Constitution as a document “blueprint” on how our Government is supposed to run?
        Both parties spend money we don’t have, on things that do not help us, and they talk about “draconian cuts” which in reality is just a denial to increase spending, there are no “real” cuts in that at all. What part of BROKE don’t you morons understand?
        Yet they continue to spend like a teenager with an unlimited credit card lost in a very large mall!! STOP the insanity! STOP the corruption, STOP driving this nation into the ground!

        This nation is heading right into disaster, but no one cares, just as long as their little worlds are intact, I got news for you, if you don’t start caring you won’t even have a little world to worry about.

  • http://personalliberty Alondra

    WHAT THE KENYAN MARXIST AND ONE OF HIS MENTORS KARL MARX HAVE IN COMMON?

    Both used multiple names.
    Marx: Karl Marx a.k.a. Monsieur Ramboz a.k.a. A. Williams a.k.a. Karl Moor

    The Kenyan Fraud: Barack Hussein Obama a.k.a. Barry Soetoro a.k.a. Barrack Obama a.k.a. Barrack Dunham a.k.a. Barry Dunham a.k.a. Barak Mounir Ubayd a.k.a. HARRISON J. BOUNEL a.k.a. Barry Soebarkah

    Marx: “[I]n COMMUNIST society, where NOBODY HAS one exclusive sphere of activity but each can become accomplished in any branch he wishes, SOCIETY REGULATES the general production and thus MAKES IT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO DO ONE THING TODAY AND ANOTHER TOMORROW, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticize after dinner.” (The Communist Manifesto)

    The Kenyan: In his Monarchical Ruling he is accomplishing his wishes … it possible for him to sleep until 10:00, after breakfast go to play basketball, after lunch give an interview to darling MSM, where he can LIE and mislead American People; after dinner blame Republicans, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Fox News for his problems; next day play golf after breakfast, after dinner have party with the perverts and dance the dance Hip-Hop for Homos like he danced on the Ellen Degeneres Show
    (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsWpvkLCvu4)

    Marx: “RELIGIOUS distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress. RELIGION IS THE SIGH OF THE OPPRESSED CREATURE, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. IT IS THE OPIUM OF THE PEOPLE.‎” (The Communist Manifesto) (Complete nonsense!)

    The Kenyan: “THEY (Americans) CLING TO GUNS OR RELIGION”.

    He Constantly distorting and twisting Bible into the Communist Manifesto.

    Covering Christian symbols in the George Town University during his teleprompter reading.

    In Three different occasions he OMITS “Creator” during reading the Preamble of The Declaration of Independence from the teleprompter

    The White House memo to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center released Sept. 14, 2011 stated in part: “No religious items (i.e. Bibles, reading material, and/or artifacts) are allowed to be given away or used during a visit.” But NOTHING was said about koran. (?!?!?!)

    Marx and the Kenyan CRIMINAL both are for the COLLECTIVE “salvation”.

    Karl Marx COULD NEVER HOLD DOWN A REAL STABLE SALARIED JOB, he was utterly EGO-CENTRIC and oblivious to the plights of his poor wife and children, he lived off donations from his faithful friend Engels for most of his life.

    The Kenyan FRAUD COULD NEVER HOLD DOWN A REAL STABLE JOB, he is utterly EGO-CENTRIC and obliviously lived on his communist and islamist friends donations and thefts, which he perpetrated by using his forged IDs, multiple SS# and multiple names.

    ALL documents that the Kenyan FRAUD has presented to the public are FORGED.

    “For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known.” – Jesus Christ

    “Great is TRUTH, and mighty above all things.” (2Ezdra 4:41)

    Anyone, who like liberal Jeff thinks that I am “really nuts” and disagree with the FACTS I presented, please, do NOT hesitate to debunk them, but with the REAL facts. TY

    • Dave67

      LOL

      So Marx and Obama are alike because they have different names… LOL Brilliant really… You know how to connect the dots there. Junior G-man badge goes to Alondra!

      The rest is just nonsensical rantings of a lunatic on the right.

      Don’t ever change. The sane people need to know what the kook brigade looks like.

      • Bob666

        Yo Dave,
        “The rest is just nonsensical rantings of a lunatic on the right”

        Pigsty needs her medication changed, when did they instal Wi-Fi in the nut house???

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Dave, it’s always encouraging to get the compliment from the enthusiastically devoted and dutiful Libtard like you. I agree with you that Melvin Purvis would be proud of me.

        But on the other hand, David, you disappointed me with your lock of understanding or the intentional twisting of my statement’s meaning. Neither is good, dear. It just confirms how lamebrained and twisted Libtardic mindset is. It’s sad. It’s veeeery sad.

        But any way Dave, I think you earned the carrot from your master for your bully. So continue to worship him zealously. Maybe he’ll raise your title “donkey” to the “mule”. Let me know if you need the recommendation.

        Good luck Dave. Keep your fingers crossed and your tail up.

      • Nick Czudy

        Dave. Alondra is pretty amazing. It is so amazing for her to come up with so many sure fire ways to detect our amazing dictator. haha. I really enjoy this bog. I am laughing and smiling every time that I read some of the comments.

        Everything is so black and white with their answers. Does it matter that it is a pile of bull? The truth is not an important issue here. The only thing that matters is that it sounds divisive and nasty enough, so that it will satisfy their image of what Obama truly must be.

        One point that she made was his removing religion out of his daily government. Amen. I truly admire him as the first President in my lifetime that did not invoke the name of God in everything he does. What ever he believes is for him alone. I am extremely happy that he has taken it out of our politics. It does not belong there. This point really irritates those that are deeply religious. America is a secular state, and there is nothing that is God given in our politics. Keep God in your homes, hearts and church.
        The criticisms of him being a Muslim is therefore such a joke. I am sure that Obama is not a heavy duty religious zealot.

        Alondra’s account of a typical day in the life of a communist worker is also a joke. Far from doing what ever they want, they had a set duty and that is what they will have to do for life. Sleeping in and doing what ever they please is funny. I have a cousin in Russia. He looks after tractors. In the summer he has to work his ass off. In the winter, once the maintenance is over, he plays cards and twiddles his thumbs. But he is Mr. Tractor man, forever.

        The idea that Obama gets to sleep in until 10:00am every day and play golf and basketball is also a joke. From the info that I have heard, he is up at 5:30 each day and with coffee in hand, does more before most of us have had breakfast. He plays a game of golf with John Beighner(sp) and Tiger Woods and now he just plays all day and every day. Sure. George Bush played more golf in one month then Obama has played in 4 years. It is good that he is keeping in healthy condition as we all know that a healthy body keeps a healthy mind.
        The other thing that these people do is call him by all sorts of names, By denigrating him immediately, it tells us that the rest of what they are saying is equally biased and hateful. That is one thing that I have noticed on most right wing blogs on this site. Very few of the right wing bloggers call him by his name. They only have to say Hussein to be instantly connotating that he is a Muslim. All of the other names are thrown in to keep them breathing hard and foaming their hate. Then they say, praise the lord. How can they be religious on one hand and then such haters on the other hand? It beats me.

        “he is utterly EGO-CENTRIC and obliviously lived on his communist and islamist friends donations and thefts, which he perpetrated by using his forged IDs, multiple SS# and multiple names.”
        Where do they get all of these alias names? I cannot speak of that issue. If I am to consider how much of what else they say that is pure bull, then I automatically am lead to believe that this is just more verbal crap.

        But thank you all, for making my day and making me laugh.

      • Uknowho

        Alondra,

        Its ok, that Obama sure is a bad man isn’t he? Don’t worry, We know he sole your unicorn and we will find it for you.

        Let me introduce you to 2 nice men in white coats. Tell them how Obama stole your unicorn and they will help you find the unicorn once you give them its description.

        Then you can be happy again.

      • John Woodbury

        Right and your is all looney lefts farts, nothing against the loons BTW. Notice he said facts, no your word or President’s Obama

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Uknowho says: “Its ok, that Obama sure is a bad man isn’t he?”

        Uknowho, the Kenyan FRAUD is not simply “a bad man”. He is sickeningly disgusting organism in the human flesh.

        And sorry, the rest of your comment, Uknowho, I guess that without tequila is no way to understand.

        The next time, please try to be coherently articulate. Thanks

    • Karolyn

      I wonder how many of Alondra’s “facts” can be verified. Or did they come off one of those chain emails people like to send (that people never check the veracity of)?

      • Bob666

        Yo Karolyn,
        I’m quite sure that Alondra has all the verification that her in-box can offer since you know that all of those emails and web sites are correct don’t you?

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Karolyn: “I wonder how many of Alondra’s “facts” can be verified.”

        Sheeple Karolyn, move your fat buttocks and masturbate your lazy brain and do the research.

        But do not use “those chains” of the Libtards postings in Snoops, Yes magazine, Daily Kos, MoveON, Skeptoid and alike – hard chore Libtardic’s falsehood.

        “The heart of DUPE Karolyn PROCLAIMS her FOOLISHNESS (as always).” – King Solomon

        P.S. Wise Up, Karolyn!!!

        • Bob666

          Yo Karolyn,
          Was that good for you? Alondra is one angry woman, banded from most dating sites-her personality is a deal breaker.

      • John Woodbury

        Bobby, do you have the hot for KK (Komrade Karolyn)?

        • Bob666

          Yo John,
          I was not aware of that, you do know that customers of hookers are refered to as “Johns”?

  • Ollie Grande

    frank, you question has an incredibly DEFEATIST tone to it. You ask the question from a perspective that you do not want to reach out, and if you do you will compromize principles. Not reaching out will will insure future defeats. In truth Frank,the mainstreamers within GOP DO NOT HAVE TO DO A THING! It is BEING DONE FOR YOU bi theLibertarian wing. LEave it to us. You do your thing and we will do ours. There are many blue collared people, youth and minorities who embrace the principlers of free makt Austrian economics, fiscal conservativism, decentralized power,national sovereignty, less regulation, non interventionist foreign policy, and LIBERTY. To support these causes is not compromizing principles to any limited governent Anti statist. All you have to do is sit back and let the only growing segmnt of GOP, the GOP Liberty cauces GROW as it has been. Do not try and destroy it, as t NEocon, wall st, country club elitist inner core of GOP has gone all out t o do so. Just let us do our thing unmolested by the rockefeller/Kristol Neoconwing of the party. Lets not forget that in the primaries, the candidatethat got the most votes from 1st time voters and minorities wa sron PAul, the 2nd most fiscally conservative member of the house and 5 time winner of National TAxpayer’s Union’s #1 ranking in congress, awarded annually to the most fiscally conservative member of the house based on their quntitative tallying of over 200 votes cast tht impact taxes and

  • Rosco1776

    Comparing Romney to Reagan is a joke!! The gop shot themselves in the foot by nominating a joke. What we have is two sides of the same coin, they are both robbing us, they just spend it differently. The gop won’t save us.
    Nothing to see here, move along!

    • http://www.facebook.com/jim.finch.9212 Jim Finch

      Amen to that Rosco. What a laughing stock Alan Root has become. I can’t understand why he is still a commentator on this site. I hope Bob Livingston doesn’t pay this joker for this sort of dribble.

  • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

    So my little super failure….how’s your tax persecution coming?

    Why don’t you grow up and become a “hedge fund”?

    No talent?

    The key to Personal Liberty is…..EXPLOIT EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING!!!!

    Do you know how to get silver from banks? Thousands and thousands of dollars?

    Would you PAY to find out?

    This would solve your tax problem, NO?

    • Mike in MI

      Sure we know how; it’s easy. Become an ass ‘olshiat of an ACORN ghetto conman, bank shakedown and protection, reclamation, extortion and redistribution recovery gang.
      They are pure magicians ’cause their leader is able to make the MOST illegal activity white as Chicago snow.
      Just the sort of thing GALTs endorse and encourage for every community. Its great fun. You just tell the dumb-cluck people you’re doing it for them and hand them a few pennies…while you as leader are raking off piles of cash into secret accounts and laundry facilities. Just what any smart ghetto conman would do…who has to go by the pseudonym Harrison Bounel for safety.

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        Still confused, Mike in MI?

        You have a completely Republican administration there, do you not?

        The one that approved all those tax breaks for the Korean Company, that
        was on line to produce batteries for the “Volt”? The one that’s paying people
        to do “nothing”, because that is what this “deal” requires?

        Watch carefully and closely, because the wonders of free market, capitalism,
        are not far behind…….the next step will be the wonders of “privatization”, where
        you start selling off “public resources”…………

        “He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past,
        controls the future.”

  • Jeremy Leochner

    On the issue of comparing Obama to Carter there is an interesting video everyone should watch:

    http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/262524/january-21-2010/the-word—two-faced

    • Dave67

      Jeremy,

      That is great… the other one is what Jon Stewart says.

      “There are 2 Obama’s, the real one and the Marxist, Communist, Socialist Totalitarian dictator that conservatives make up”

      • Don 2

        Colbert Nation (Comedy Central) and Jon Stewart are your news sources? Now, that explains everything…..two confirmed [expletive deleted]

        Maybe you should both try Cartoon Central next time? LMAO

      • Uknowho

        The funny thing is Don, Jon Stewart has more thought provoking interviews and honest dialogue that any of those blowhards on Fox and CNN. You know the state of news is bad when a comedy shows gives you better information that a supposed “news” channel.

  • Johnny D

    Wayne I agree with you rating Carter and Obama as this countrys worse presidents and your assumption that Rodney would have put this nation back on a path to prosperity.

    • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

      Kermit was the BEST….then came RODNEY.

      • S.C.Murf

        Followed by galt

    • nc

      Johnny, have you ever considered a source other than Wayne” Landslide “Root to evaluate Reagan and Carter?? Like a life long Republican economist and former candidate for the Republican nomination for President> STEVE FORBES?? AS EDITOR IN CHIEF OF A LEADING, SOME SAY THE BEST, MAGAZINE ON ECONOMICS ONE WOULD ASSUME HE WOULD NOT ALLOW ANYTHING IN HIS MAGAZINE THAT WOULD REFLECT BADLY ON HIS BELOVED PARTY AND IT BELOVED SAINT, REAGAN! RIGHT???
      I refer you to a major study, with the approval of the editor-in-chief, Republican Forbes, in an edition of Forbes Magazine, entitled “PRESIDENTS AND PROSPERITY” which ranked all of the administrations from Truman through GHW bush on major economic standards like employment, unemployment, inflation. GDP etc.etc.! Carter ranked ABOVE TRUMAN, IKE, NIXON AND GHW BUSH!

      ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE THE GUTS LOOK IT UP AND STUDY IT!!! ! “PRESIDENTS AND PROSPERITY” AT FORBES.COM!! TRY AN OPINION OF SOMEONE OTHER THAN A VEGAS BOOKIE.
      PS; THE ONLY REASON THAT DADDY’S BOY BUSH IS NOT LISTED BELOW CARTER IS THAT HIS ADMINISTRATION WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE STUDY SINCE HE WAS STILL IN OFFICE AT THE TIME AND RUNNING UP SUCH DISMAL FIGURES THAT HE WOULD HAVE RANKED BELOW HIS FATHER WHO WAS LAST IN THE STUDY;

      KOOL AID DULLS THE BRAIN AND DENIAL IS A MENTAL DISEASE!

      • JUKEBOX

        I am so glad you have recognized that Obama has a mental disease, because he is the KING of denial. He has denied everything including sequestration being his idea.

      • John Woodbury

        nc does that stand for nut case? Just asking!

  • tncdel

    Romney lost because he was too namby-pamby towards Obama. He should have played hardball with the dog-eatin’ Kenyan by, when Obama demanded his tax returns, demanding from Obama a genuine birth certificate while also calling for an independent investigation and DEPORTATION hearing for Obama [since a non-U.S. citizen is NOT entitled to impeachment proceedings].

    And while Romney was scheduling the deportation hearing, by twisting RINO Boehner’s arm to arrange it [as the House could have done (for the Senate has exclusivity only when it comes to impeachment proceedings)], Romney should have fired one salvo after another about the many egregious acts by Obama THAT ROMNEY DIDN’T EVEN BRING UP:

    Like how Obama unconstitutionally gave out over a million work permits to illegal aliens, despite over 23 million of our own citizens out-of-work, and also has been unconstitutionally giving them amnesty for a mere $465 processing fee.

    And Romney should have countered Obama’s criticizing of Romney on abortion by exposing the fact that Obama is so extremist that he even defended killing NEWBORN babies who survived abortions!

    Also Romney should have called for answers on Benghazi, “Fast & Furious,” Solyndra, etc., etc. Romney has a veritable smorgasbord of “entrees” he could have assailed Obama upon, but all he did was nibble like a fat woman on a diet.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

    If the “mormon-brawler” had won we’d be just as screwed as we are now…It would have made NO difference! The oligarchs rule, through their own laws, manipulation, brainwashing and by sheer force, when and if, necessary!

    Oligarchy: (from Greek ὀλιγαρχία (oligarkhía); from ὀλίγος (olígos), meaning “few”, and ἄρχω (archo), meaning “to rule or to command”), is a form of power structure in which power effectively rests with a small number of people. These people could be distinguished by royalty, wealth, family ties, education, corporate, or military control. Such states are often controlled by a few prominent families who pass their influence from one generation to the next.

    Throughout history, oligarchies have been tyrannical (relying on public servitude to exist) or relatively benign. Aristotle pioneered the use of the term as a synonym for rule by the rich, for which the exact term is plutocracy, but oligarchy is not always a rule by wealth, as oligarchs can simply be a privileged group, and do not have to be connected by bloodlines as in a monarchy.

    The Athenians used interesting techniques to prevent the rise of oligarchy,
    especially during the fourth century BC, after the restoration of democracy from oligarchical coups. The Athenians used the drawing of lots for selecting government officers in order to counteract what the Athenians acutely saw as a tendency toward oligarchy in government if a professional governing class were allowed to use their skills for their own benefit. They drew lots from large groups of adult volunteers as a selection technique for civil servants performing judicial, executive, and administrative functions. They even used lots for very important posts, such as judges and jurors in the political courts, which had the power to overrule the Assembly.

    Forms of government and other political structures associated with oligarchy can include; aristocracy, meritocracy, military junta, plutocracy, stratocracy, technocracy, theocracy and timocracy.

    What we have presently is Corporate oligarchy, or a Corporatocracy.

    Corporate oligarchy is a form of power, governmental or operational, where such power effectively rests with a small, elite group of inside individuals, sometimes from a small group of educational institutions, or influential economic entities or devices, such as banks, commercial entities, lobbyists that act in complicity with, or at the whim of the oligarchy, often with little or no regard for constitutionally protected prerogative.

    Monopolies are sometimes granted to state-controlled entities, such as the Royal Charter granted to the East India Company, or privileged bargaining rights to unions (labor monopolies) with very partisan political interests. Today’s multinational corporations function as corporate oligarchies with influence over democratically elected officials.

    So exactly what would Romney have done differently than what Obama is doing currently? He would be doing the exact same, that being; serving the interests of the Corporatocracy!

    • Mike in MI

      BINGO !!!

  • pissed of & liberal

    ” Romney was the perfect man to save america ” ? it’s official wayne allen root has lost his mind.

  • Alex

    Sorry, W.A.R. but in between trading arms-for-hostages and arms-for-drugs, Reagan went to Bitburg to lay flowers at the graves of Nazi SS officers. Reagan claimed that the SS were, and I QUOTE the Evil Reagan his own bad self, “victims, just as surely as the victims in the concentration camps” {!!!}

    Though his stinking corpse rots in Ventura County, the “soul” of Reagan burns in Hell, right between Josef Stalin and John Wayne Gacy.

    Shame on you, W.A.R.!

    • Capitalist at Birth

      [personal attack has been removed]

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        Why the personal attack CAB? ~ why not embrace the content? unless of course you can’t or it’s just too difficult to do and too much to ask of you.

        Mr. Root has voiced his opinion and set the playing field in motion with boundary lines that does not include personal attacks for voicing an opinion.

        To demonize Jimmy Carter for 30 years and now attack his Grandson for telling the factual truth is to solicit a defense for Jimmy Carter by it’s very nature.

        Personally, I think that it a very off the mark and a ugly view of Mr. Root but I will not go there, respecting his right to voice an opinion as I have one too!

        If you have one, share it. Otherwise, put a sock in it.

  • James

    If the grandson is anything like his grandfather, he is a total, unadulterated ahole.

  • http://midcontent ridge runner

    The things that Jimmy Carter had going for him, was his smiling not scowling wife, didn’t vaction all the time, actually did work and live around Americans, beleived in Christanity, educated from 1st grade to end of college as an a useful citizen, and actually did something in life. Compared to this dog roasting muslim marxist, that keeps chashing parked cars and barks at dreams.

    • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

      Roslyn was a divine saint and pleasure. Southern lady with southern charm.

  • Uknowho

    Jimmy Carter has a moral man… You can’t say that about Bush, Reagan, Nixon, Clinton. Reagan was no hero. He was a coward and and economic disaster. The one thing Reagan could do is make you feel better enen though he was pulling the rug out from under you. He was a great snakeoil salesman and many bought his BS.

    • Capitalist at Birth

      You obviously live in a fantasy world.

      • Uknowho

        And you live in the conservative bubble where 2000-2008 did not happen, Iran Contra did not happen, Watergate did not happen. The Patriot Act just magically appeared.

        CAB and Mr Root, Remove your head from your hind quarters and join us here in a place I like to call the real world and leave your fantasyland in the conservative bubble.

      • Bob666

        Yo CAB,
        I would say that Uknowho Nailed that one quite accurately.

    • Charlie R

      In response to “Carter was a moral man”.
      Yes indeed he certainly projected that image, didn’t he?
      He also projected that he was a humble man, and he sure did that , did he?
      And every one knows JC (thats Jimmy Carter) did not drink booze either, right?
      And, was it not impressive that he carried his own bag off the airplane. Sure was!
      What a guy, the best president ever. Right?

      Well, what you is is not always what you get,so lets start with his image of carrying his own bags……. The bag was MT.
      Now did you know that he and “Dizzy” ,his wife, were known to have rocking parties with … lets just say “beverages”. And according to additional FBI leakage Carter was anything but humble.
      So thru the prism of the camera and a corrupt press we got a distorted image of Carter.

      On the other hand the Bush presidency was always demeaned by the press and if that is not understood your falling for blatant media bias especially from the New York Times which is an “agenda driven news source for which the it has become legendary since the 1960′s

      Two books serve as reference material for my comments:
      1-The Absence of Power by Pierre Salanger
      2- Journalistic Fraud by Kohn

      Both are educational on Carter and the NYT …. should be they read popular opinions (myths) may be dispelled by their contents understanding of just how corrupt the NYT influences the TV news media talking heads will be eye opening

      Have a great day!

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        It appears that both of your sources has a fiery personality Charlie . Kohn is a book pusher, ~ and far right winger with an ax to grind.

        Jimmy Carter is as he appears to be, no more and no less. ~ Both of your sources personal income depends on them selling print and lip service. ~ Everyone is searching for a place to market their goods. ~ To go against common perception can be seen as a marketing tool. What if I told you that Cinderella was really the Grinch that stole Christmas?

        “Life after ABC
        After leaving ABC, Salinger moved back to Washington, D.C., and became an executive with the Burson Marsteller public relations firm before returning to France in 2000. Until the late 80s, Salinger had been a popular TV pundit in France, and was a frequent guest on French news and public affairs shows when someone was needed to explain or interpret American events for French viewers. Salinger even hosted a program for the cable network A&E in the early 1990s called Dining in France.

        Salinger later became known for his claims in November 1996 that friendly fire from the United States Navy was the cause of the TWA Flight 800 crash. In November 2000, he became exasperated when he was denied permission to give exonerating evidence as part of his testimony before the Scottish Court in the Netherlands to try two Libyans for the downing on December 21, 1988, of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland. Salinger stated that he knew who the real bombers were, but was told by trial judge, Lord Sutherland: “If you wish to make a point you may do so elsewhere, but I’m afraid you may not do so in this court.”[13]

        He later made a permanent move to France, making good on his promise that, “If Bush wins, I’m going to leave the country and spend the rest of my life in France.”
        Salinger died in October 2004 of heart failure in Cavaillon hospital near his home, La Bastide Rose, in Le Thor, France, at the age of 79.[14] He is buried in the Arlington National Cemetery across the Potomac River from Washington, DC.”

        “Bob Kohn currently serves as founder, Chairman and CEO of RoyaltyShare, Inc., an outsourced royalty processing solution[clarification needed] for the music, book publishing, brand licensing, and motion picture industries.[1]
        Until recently,[when?] Kohn served as Vice Chairman of the Board of Borland Software Corporation, where he previously served as senior vice president and general counsel. He also serves as Chairman of Laugh.com, a comedy record company he founded with comedian George Carlin.
        In 1998, Kohn co-founded EMusic,[2] the MP3 music-download service. EMusic sold its first downloadable music file for 99 cents on July 23, 1998. Once listed on NASDAQ under the symbol EMUS, the company was acquired in 2001 by Universal Music Group.[3]
        Prior to EMusic, Kohn served as vice president of business development and general counsel for Pretty Good Privacy, Inc., the developer of the controversial PGP encryption software;[4] senior vice president of corporate affairs and general counsel of Borland International, Inc.; associate general counsel of Candle Corporation, a mainframe software company; corporate counsel for Ashton-Tate, a personal computer software company, later acquired by Borland; and associate attorney at the law offices of Milton A. “Mickey” Rudin, an entertainment law firm.
        Kohn served as associate editor (and is currently on the advisory board) of the Entertainment Law Reporter, a professional publication that provides monthly updates on legal developments affecting the entertainment industry. He has appeared as a media commentator on The O’Reilly Factor, Scarborough Country, and other cable TV news programs.
        In 2003, he wrote Journalistic Fraud: How The New York Times Distorts the News and Why It Can No Longer Be Trusted, a book with a thesis similar to that of Bernard Goldberg’s Bias. Kohn’s book describes a climate of liberal bias in which reporters routinely slant or spike news stories to ensure that the media presents a liberal point of view.
        Journalistic Fraud specifically speaks of The New York Times’ news pages, as opposed to its opinion pages or media in general, which are not the concern of the book. Kohn cites copious examples of what he claims to be journalistically poor leading sentences and biased topic choice and placement in the news articles of the paper. He states that the news articles are (or were at the time) biased, and political opinion in newspapers should be confined to the editorials.
        On September 4, 2012, Kohn submitted an amicus brief in US v. Apple opposing the Department of Justice’s settlement and theory of the ebook price fixing case in a 5 page comic strip.[5]

  • Judith

    Really? Carter is the worst president? Not Nixon? Not Bush? You do remember that Bush got us into 2 unfunded wars? The first time in American history that taxes weren’t raised to pay for the wars – you know that right? And Saint Ronnie? You do know that he raised taxes 8 times right? And Romney lost because James Carter revealed his comments? Its not Romney’s fault that he actually said those things denigrating half of his fellow citizens? Shouldn’t Romney take responsibility for making those comments? Don’t you guys claim to be all about taking responsibility for your own actions? Get out of the right wing bubble!

    • Capitalist at Birth

      Who is responsible for your ignorance?

      • Uknowho

        Having a verifiable record is really inconvenient isn’t it? But I for one am glad that Romney got caught expressing his true elitist feelings. Ole Tricky Mitt Romney never had to work for anything. He was given his opportunities by his wealthy dad and this guy has the stones to talk about leaching?

        LOL.

        What fools the GOPERS are… This is why they are heading for irrelevancy. Old white men who desparately want to cling to power will only get you so far in the future.

      • S.C.Murf

        Udon’tknow whatdoyou. when the old white Men die off and don’t pay the tax bill then you will be left with no check to draw from obama, what are you going to do then?

        up the hill
        airborne

  • Capitalist at Birth

    Actually Obama, Carter, Nixon, Johnson, F.D.R., Wilson, T. Roosevelt, and Lincoln would probably round out the top eight. But, of course you wouldn’t agree with that, would you?

    • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

      Well, hmm? You are leaving out 37 Presidents that were better or worse?

      Buchanan, Taff, but a few ~ The Grant administration was laced with gaff, giving us great days for the snake, bad days for the frog.

  • Charlie R

    So, you say Jimmy Carter grandson sunk Romney…. now that is creative!

    I guess the republican party philosophy had nothing to do with Romney’s loss. Romney’s comments were dead wrong. Had he taken the time to clarify what groups composed
    the 47% and the growth in unearned public aide, he could have reversed the negatives and gone on the attack . But no Romney like NcCain was milk toast and possibly ignorant of the facts.

    Where was the Romney and Republican response to Obamas attack dogs? Where was Christy, the supposed, Republican mouthpiece for taking on Obama ? How about another chorus of Kum Bi Yah Chris… Republicans did not have the courage or the smarts to compete, period.

    Did you miss Tad Romney’s comments after the election ? He said: “His dad just didn’t have the heart to fight the fight”. Now that speaks volumes doesn’t it ?

    Face facts, Romney and the Republican Party’s negative philosophy, particularly on (Rowe vs Wade) , birth control, and government provided contraceptives. Remember Sandra Fluck? One could say she too, like Carters grand son, “Flucked-Up” Romney’s chances to be president.

    The future is bleak for Conservative ideals because Democrats own the “language of politics” and they get their message across to the masses (.i.e they tell the masses what the masses want to hear.) And,the Republicans cannot “market” themselves out of a paper bag.

    The only Republican that had any impact in the last election was….. RUBIO!
    Now, go figure out why RUBIO made the biggest impact and you will begin to understand the real reasons that Romney and the Republican’s lost, again.

    • Nick Czudy

      To charlie.. I basically agree with what you said.

      The GOP decided early on, that they would paint Obama’s policies as having failed and so they constantly pushed that idea. The problem was that his policies actually didn’t fail and the amazing thing was, that without the power of Congress and all of the obstruction, he was able to govern and make positive changes. I think that this “failure” strategy and their insistence on constantly pushing it made them not believable.

      Mitt changed his mind so many times during the primary and then to the general election, that the independents, did not know who they were really getting.
      The GOP had gone so extreme right that even though they think that they are the solution for what American needs, they are actually going too far right and are scaring the rest of the country.
      Even now, they are going to have their big gathering and all of the key speakers are the same old extreme tea partiers, that lost them the last election. They seem to think that there is nothing wrong with their message or policies, it was only their delivery of their views was the problem. IF they keep deluding themselves. they will never win another election. This is even with all of their gerrymandering and elections tricks.

      The sad thing was the the very best GOP candidate that they had in the last election was one that got primaried out early in the process. This was John Huntsman. He would have won the election for the GOP if the tea partiers did not force him too far to the right. He would be identified as being a RINO. The current GOP are trying to eject all of the RINOS out of their districts. If they do this, then they will lose. Most Americans are sick of the constant politics and obstruction.
      Rubio is the great hope for the GOP, but he will never be able to stand up to a good Demographic candidate. He is tied too closed with the extreme right wing for him to win.

      As far as Christie, I could see him, jumping over the aisle if the GOP keep ostracizing him, the way that they did this week. But he would not run against Hillary.
      Someone else said it here. There was something about the Conservative brain. Their emotions control their actions. Common sense and the facts, so not seem to be important to them. It is only the purity of their thoughts and their wish for things to go back to the good old days that rules their lives.

      • Charlie R

        I totally agree that some of the best candidates got drummed out.
        So pick up on the “drummed out part” and consider the following election anomaly.
        Prior to and during the primaries, there were die hard democrats that I know personally and they openly admitted that re-registered as republicans to vote for a weak R candidate because they know that O was their candidate.
        Now I do not know how massive this was nationally but I do know that it was part of the tactics used by Democrats where I reside which happens to be in the greater Chicagoland area.

        So, the question is : Was The republican party invaded by staunch democrats?
        Illinois , if I remember correctly went 60 40 Obama and that proportionality was was mirrored in other Blue states. What do you think Nick ?

        • Nick Czudy

          Charlie. That is an interesting idea. I would think that it is quite possible. But as far as registering as a republican, I have no info on that.
          What I do know is that in certain states and races, that Democratic candidates actually ran ads that promoted a certain GOP candidate. Clare McGaskell did that in her riding, I think it was in Indiana. She ran ads for Richard Mourdock. It worked. He won the primary and she cleaned his clock in the general election.
          This happened in a number of races. The problem was a big issue for GOP primaries. The people that come out to vote in the primaries are predominantly the zealots and really politically motivated. So they kept killing the long running RINO’s and replacing them with the likes of Ron Brown in MA(I meet with Kings and Queens every day) , Donelly (I am not a witch) , Mourdock (A woman that gets raped has some natural body function to prevent getting pregnant) There is another that is still in power in Georgia, that said,that Evolution, and science comes straight from the gates of hell. The GOP then put this guy on the Congressional Science committee.
          These candidates are so ridiculous and whoever voted them into the primaries have a few screws loose.
          As far as did Dems sign up for the GOP. I would think that it is possible. I am on all of the GOP mailing lists, as well as the NRA, NAGR and this blog site. They came after me and invaded my inbox without my invitation.
          I get two emails from Rand Paul every day. Most of the time, his rants are typical tea party, but today he had one for the right to work, that I actually agree with.
          On the gun lobby emails, they do not give you a chance to express your feelings. You only can accept their agenda as they describe it. It is funny, as I signed in on one of the surveys as “Ban All Assault Weapons”, under the first and last name. Then the next time I get another letter that is addressed to Dear “Ban All Assault Weapons” Haha If they only read their mail.
          During the election, there are many dirty tricks that are used to gain advantage. The GOP were really good at lying and giving false information. For example the “Jeep factory is moving to China” There was a lot of voter blocking in Florida, Ohio and other GOP run states. There are a lot of dirty tricks that both parties use. But if I was to rate them as to how dirty they each are, I would give the GOP a score of 80 and the Dems a rate or 20%. It seems that the have no limit to how low they will go.

          In congress and Senate, they are more concerned with their politics. They try and make themselves look great to their supporters and they would rather do stuff to hurt the country than to compromise on their politics. In other countries, there would be a word for this. They are called “Traitors”. they would be hanged. Here they call themselves “Patriots”. Haha We are really a f*cke* up country. The laughable thing I always hear is that America is the best country in the world. Maybe once. But another blog from another member here, had a list of the US being rated as very low in many categories.
          I start getting sick, when I hear that we have the best Health System. What a joke. We can only brag that we have the most expensive system in the world. There we are a winner.
          warm regards
          Nick Cz

      • Charlie R

        Nick; U make some xcellent points.
        Re: the dems d party switch;

        When the D’s switched to R’s for the primary they did not have to re register for the presidential as the presidential is “open and u can vote D or R; then that gave the switchers plenty of time to reregister.
        I still would like to know if this theory had legs?I would have thought the R’s would have looked ate i given the amount or fraud perpetrated by Dems this last election

        We still should hang traitors!
        Damn problem is we don’t have traitors any more.
        Now they are called “Politicians”

        Im movin on …catch U again sometime

        • Bob666

          Yo Charlie & Nick,
          I am not aware of the switching of parties to vote, But I have several of my angry old white friends in Georgia who are GOP members who voted for Obama in the primaries back in 2008 because they feared Hillary and did not believe a black guy could get elected as president.

          In some states like Georgia, I understand that you can cross party lines in the primary elections. I do have fun reminding them Who they voted for everytime I get one of those emails of political fiction from them.

          Facts are always stranger than fiction!

          • Nick Czudy

            Bob,.
            I think that during the primaries, I heard that some states allowed both sides to decide who they wanted to vote for. So if Obama was a forgone conclusion, it freed up the the dems from having to vote in the Dem primary, leaving them to infiltrate the GOP primary and help to elect the kooky candidates. This sure sounds like a possibility. But I have no hard facts on that, nor do I know anyone that did that.

            I guess that if they only voted once, then there would be nothing wrong with this.

            But I have to take my hats off to Clare McGaskell (?sp). She actually bought TV ads for Richard Mourdock. These were not attack ads. She was extolling his virtues and how he would be a good Congressman. That was brilliant. During the election, she had double the votes that he got. It was not even close.

            regards
            Nick Cz

          • Bob666

            Yo Nick,
            Richard Mourdock was a gift from god to Clare McCaskell. I have been an independant for over thirty years now and while I’m not crazy about the democratic party, they tend to be the most sane group right now.

            I left the GOP due to the invasion of the religious right and the inmoral deeds of Lee Atwater (Karma paid him a visit) and watching the GOP in the last 12 years had been painful as they lose touch with reality just a little bit more every day.

            If I were the GOP, I would accept a RINO with oper arms over a democrate, but they seem to have the “my way or nothing” mentality and are losing more and more every day and then get pissed because all the groups the offened vote for democrates.

            Yes, it is a gift from god!

          • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

            That’s my story Bob666, ~ to the button!

            If that’s what it takes to claim to be a “conservative” today, ~ then I don’t what to be one.

            But I am a conservative, yet to be bitten by a “Werewolf” and mutated into some unnatural , unholy abomination like Lee Atwater.

            This is a “sick clubhouse” they present to the world today. I wouldn’t pay the entry fee to step though their door.

          • Bob666

            Yo Deer,
            We are in agreement on the GOP. Atwater got his in the end and if there is a god or Karma, Rove will get his just desert!

          • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

            I know what you mean, ~ and let’s keep Chaney on that “short list” of deserved rewards and entitlements.

            Chaney could wear a size 15 Hat already, a few more hats sizes would be becoming on him.

    • Uknowho

      Charlie,

      You should know by now conservatives are never responsible for anything. You will never hear Bob L or any of his compatriots admit anything is the conservative philosophy’s/policy’s fault.

      Its always someone elses doing.

  • Leslie Shively

    I believe that the mainstream media are behind all the Obama propaganda. The media is head over heels crazy about him. They hide everything that is wrong with him as President by glossing over it or never speaking of it at all! There are people out there that just believe what they want to. When Romney said what he said, those of us that watch the news stations that tell the truth AND back up that truth recognized it as “sad but true.” Open your eyes people before it is too late. It may be too late already but the problem is NOT the Sequester.

    • Nick Czudy

      Hi Leslie. Pleasure to meet you.
      You and many of the Right like to blame the left wing media from falling head over heals over Obama. The reason is that he acts like the only sane adult in the room. The GOP and their media backer, FOX, just cannot get out of the biased politics.
      Just today for example. I started with FOX and then had a little dose of CNN and MSNBC.

      Fox immediately got into the Bob Woodward being threatened by the white house for blaming Obama for this “Sequester” fiasco. Meanwhile I am seeing tons of quotes live from John Boehner saying that he got 98% of what he wanted from the “Sequester” bill.

      Well FOX started ranting about the underhanded Obama team and milking it for their advantage. (their #1 priority is to find something that they can use to make Obama look bad) Everyone for an hour ranted about what thugs the white house was. ‘
      Meanwhile on CNN, they actually had Bob Woodward who read off the two emails, which were cordial and friendly and totally in a different context. They called each other friends and as was the Benghazi deal, nothing of consequence.

      So in this case, the main street media did their due diligence and contacted the newsmaker to get the real story and vetted their news and FOX did not. When this happens day after day, you eventually know that you cannot always believe FOX, as they are not diligent and should not be believed. Now things like the truth and facts do not seem to be important to those living under the Right Wing Bubble. But the rest of the world likes to have the truth and real facts.

      FOX and Sen McCain, spearheaded the Benghazi incident over and over and over…..
      They were not interested in the actual cause and solutions to the killing. They keep ranting about what Susan Rice said. Not for a week or even a month, They would not let this go , going on for months ad naseum. A lot of us are a little swifter and we understood what happened in a few days.
      It makes me think that because it is something that the GOP might have done, they therefore think that Obama and the Dems would also do it. The thing is that the Dems would not have thought to do that. It is something that the GOP would do and therefore they assume that Obama would also do it.

      Today you have Obama being concerned about the “Sequestration” and willing to compromise and Beihner and the rest of the GOP congress all leave for the weekend on Thursday at 2:00 pm as if there was no problem. They won’t give an inch and pass the buck to Obama and the Senate. This is the duty of Congress to deal with budgets and money.

      No the main street media are just giving the coverage to FOX and the GOP that they deserve. They need to start acting like responsible adults and not children. then maybe the Main street media, would treat the GOP equally.

      • visitor from another planet

        Well said, Nick. Fox Noise, erh, News is as propagandistic as Pravda, just the other side of the coin. If Obama invented the cure for cancer Fox would report: “Obama fails to come up with the cure for the common cold. The state of medicine is disastrously set back decades. Massive layoffs and corporate bankruptcies are anticipated.”

        The type of honest journalism practiced by the likes of Walter Cronkite is almost extinct.

      • jimmystory

        WOW, swifter Nick & From another planet!
        I’m always startled by the differences in how (un)informed the (liberal)conservative voices are in our national bipolar politics. I get news off various network sources, and I actually watched a Fox News report that said just what you did about Woodward being cordial with his source (which he’d have to be if he wants to stay “in the loop”, of course).

        Benghazi was “nothing of consequence”, really? This president literally went to sleep on his own most significant foreign policy venture (re-making Libya) while the ugly results of that venture played out in the first killing of a U.S. Ambassador since the Carter administration, in fact, HOURS after the attack started (and months after the ambassador pleaded for help). Having served in the military, I find it astonishing that no forces were on alert September 11th in the Middle East, and especially Libya!? Did ANYONE, let alone the President who ordered intervention there, really not know Libya was a dangerous place? I think one of Romney’s biggest mistakes was not making a BIGGER issue of this, especially in the 3rd debate when Bob Schieffer handed him that question. But it’s still astonishing how little it mattered to the masses, thanks (again) to a remarkable media whitewashing (much more like Pravda, representing the state). This one-sided reporting has existed since Watergate, and has only been balanced the past several years by radio, internet, and Fox. Apparently we’re more concerned about the 47% than the “you didn’t build that”, about Romney being wealthy than the economy being poor, about “Iran-Contra” than Chinese government campaign contributions, and about electing (gasp) a Mormon than an absentee, pot-smoking exchange student given a degree in community organizing from Columbia.

        By the way, Claire McCaskill is the Senator the people from Missouri (vs. Indiana) are stuck with another 6 years thanks to the ignorant statement made by Todd Akin (vs. Richard Mourdock). Democrats successfully made that ridiculous sentiment apply to the entire Republican party with help from the press, and that may have been the most costly thing for them, since the emotions are carrying so much more than the facts. I totally agree with your comments on the primary processes in these states that cost Republicans what should have been easy wins…replacing Lugar with Mourdock in Indiana was even MORE stupid than the Akin thing (his comment was after he won the primary).

        W.A.R. hypes things a bit (as all commentators must to sell), but his point is pretty remarkable, especially considering how little the source was covered compared to the 47% sentence. The vindictive bitterness of the Carters sullys Jimmy’s legacy even more, while the magnanimity of the Romneys (and Bushes, and Fords) loses elections…

        • Nick Czudy

          h and Hi Jimmy
          I will comment on your reply to me.
          I am coming to my conclusions as an open minded independent.
          Listening to the GOP during the last election campaign and to the stuff that is written in these blogs as compared to the Dems has led me to my conclusions.

          I do listen to fox every day for about two hours. I also take in about the same with CNN, CBC, BBC and MSNBC.
          What I do not like about FOX, is that they come out hitting real hard against the DEMS on any story, They come out with an obvious bias that is readily observable in their delivery.
          Especially Bill O’Reilly. His “No Spin” monologue is so slanted that it is hard to listen to what he says. When he has a guest and their answer does not fit his agenda, he cuts them off. His worst rant is that line that “Obama won because he gave gifts”.
          The Dems actually account for a majority of the the government income and taxes and the Right Wing part of the country are takers as well. Probably the majority.
          You can say that the GOP message was to offer gifts to the wealthy and corporate supporters. It is hypocritical to accuse Obama of giving gifts, when the GOP has been giving gifts and taking huge sums of money from the wealthy for decades. Unfortunately, they have been doing well in the last few decades and the masses are waking up to this fact. In many countries, this is considered bribery. I am not sure how it is tolerated here.
          The idea that someone putting millions into the hands of the politicians is considered free speech is a joke. It is bribery.
          One reason that we have such a screwed up medical system is that they have accepted this bribery for decades and let the hospitals get away with the rampant overcharging that gives them their huge profits. We have been raped and pillaged by the hospitals for so long, we have become numb to it and cannot see the injustice in the system.
          Obamacare is only a small step in the right direction to right this wrong.
          Here is a link that brings this to light.
          http://healthland.time.com/2013/02/20/bitter-pill-why-medical-bills-are-killing-us/

          To summarize, the GOP are for the wealthy and the powerful and the DEms are for the people. What I have seen is that

          thanks for correcting me on the mixup with the states and races when discussing Mourdock and McGaskell. I was wrong. but you got the idea. I did not want to take the time to search up the exact state and race info.
          You are right that Americans passed these traits onto the rest of the GOP caucus. In many ways they are justified to do this. There is a lot of these traits that are GOP talking points. There was a mixed response from other GOPers weather to support him or denigrate him. It is a part of the GOP platform that is offensive and disturbs a lot of Americans. The tea Party is hitting hard on good Conservative candidates because they are not as pure or right wing enough. This extreme view is not healthy and good for the country, It is also tearing apart the GOP. being conservative is not being extreme. It is a contradiction in terms. If they are so fixed on getting their agenda, then maybe there should be a slot in the party to make it two parties. The obvious problem there is that the vote will be split and either side will never win an election any more.

          In the future, the party will have to re-evaluate their positions and policies and decide what they want to do and what they stand for.
          If the current line of speakers at CPAC is indicative of where they are headed then it looks like it is the same of party. This is sad that they cannot break out of this mold.
          They are fronting the same extreme members with same old extreme views.

          The only sane people in the party that I can see now is Christy and Huntsman. Ron Paul had a lot of good points but was a little too Libertarian.
          Marco Rubio will never beat HIllary and there is no one else that can. Bobby Jindal was right in saying that they need to stop being the “Stupid Party” Most Americans do have a brain and can parse the bull s*it from the truth and will never elect a party that is constantly lying to them.
          The GOP and the right wing have the constant battle of keeping their zealot base happy with the lies and statements that will foment the hatred and noise or whether to speak to the rest of the country. They constantly chose to keep the base happy with one kind of rhetoric and then when in a General election they change their platform to be more moderate. Which are they?
          The success of the GOP will depend on them being able to speak to everyone and to not cator their talk just to their loyal zealots.
          On the issue of Benghazi. What is so hypocritical and beating a dead horse on this issue is what the GOP are harping on. The real issue is tragic and the issue should be about how it happened and what went wrong. Yes 4 men were killed. there were more than 3000 killed in the Iraq war and in Afganistan. That is also tragic.
          The rediculous issue is that all of the noise coming from the right, the GOP and FOX is what Susan Wright said. That is the whole ridiculous part of this issue.
          The right are only interested in trying to find some form of scandel in the Obama government, so that they can finally have some little bit of talking point to discredit him.
          The interest is so politically biased, that it is making the GOP look like the ruthless, political machine that they are. Let it rest. We the people do not care what Susan Eright said. We got it. She said what she was told to say as the story was breaking.

          To have senators McCain, Ayott and Graham to hold up the work of the Senate to get more on Benghazi is ridiculous and makes them look very partisan and petty. The GOP should let it go. There is nothing of benifit there for you. This is the problem. FOX, the Right Wing media spend too much time of these types of issues and not what are the real problems. in America.
          To take this further, we can see how both houses are willing to make decisions based on politics and not the health of the country. This type of governing is not making Americans enamored with the GOP. What I see is a party that only cares about getting back in power and letting the wealthy make more money and have more power.
          Anyone with a brain, that is part of the 99%, can easily see who has their concerns at heart.
          So that is the problem with the GOP and the Right wing party. (This was the gospel according to Nick Cz. haha)

  • http://www.facebook.com/dholyer Dean Holyer

    Back in the 1975-76 school year, 10 grade for me. In my Beginning Essay class we were asked to write a paper on how the state of Colorado would survive another 200 or more years. I went a step further and wrote a paper on what would destroy America if we did not fix the problem.

    The paper pointed out that our increasing dependency on the government doing every thing for us down to wiping our asses after going to the bathroom would kill us as by the start of the 21st Century happened taxes would be over 50%. Thus America would no longer be powered by and for the people but become puppets of the Government. As I graduated High school the nation did not look like it had a bright future with Mr. Peanut as President

    America seems to be in such a dull future as those times where then, I have no idea whom it will be but if there is to be a bright shining future for America we need a leader that understands that the g;ory of America comes from believing in the power from the people not the puppets of Washington DC. Whom our current leader represents. Or as I’ve called him since 8 seconds after he won. And that mame is Mr. O’buma, I know that is a misspelling but it to me is more a true spelling based on his purpose.

    • Right Brain Thinker

      Dean Holyer says he wrote a paper in his Sophomore year of HS, in which he talked about “the government doing every thing for us down to wiping our asses after going to the bathroom”. Yep, definitely “sophomoric”. In case everyone is not aware, the word “sophomore” comes from the Latin roots “sophos” (wise) and “moros” (fool), and Dean is still behaving that way (the “moros” part particularly).

      He proves my point with “Mr. Peanut”, “puppet since 8 seconds after he won”, and “O’buma”. Strange thing, Dean—–most intelligent and grown up Americans I know called him “the president of the United States”.

      Grow up if you want anybody but the sophomoric to listen to you.

      • Alan

        Get a life RBT! When are you going to grow up and quit talking down you nose at people? It’s no wonder our schools are in the condition they’re in when considering people like you are the ones who’ve been in charge for so long.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Alan says, “Get a life RBT! When are you going to grow up and quit talking down you nose at people?”. Alan reveals to all that he too is probably one of those people that others “talk down their noses to”, and he doesn’t like it.

        If Dean would speak like an adult, I for one wouldn’t “speak down my nose” at him. Dean needs to “get an adult brain”, and so does Alan, if they don’t want to be called “sophomoric”..

        And Alan doesn’t need to thank me for the efforts I made in the schools to improve education and thereby the country—-it was my patriotic duty and a good way to spend a life.

  • Craig Beagley

    Well there you go, sounds like a horror flick “Revenge of the Peanut Farmer”!

  • Cheerio

    Hmmm no Mitt was not the perfect or ideal person to save America…. The American People are. Mitt is every bit big G as O is. Ron Paul was our George Washington.
    Mitt is financed by same corporations as sitting chief…. Both push for Federal Gov…….???????

  • http://www.speedi.tv James Pratt

    I am an old guy and it is almost amusing to me to watch this bipartisan bickering when i know from all that I have studied that, despite the rhetoric, all of these people are serving the same masters who represent the shadow government that runs this country. Why do you think we still have our jobs and factories being shipped out of the country, uncontrolled immigration providing cheap labor and diluting the American workforce, major corporations who pay no income tax, a CIA that, historically has been a top drug trafficker, polilticians who want to disarm the country, politicians who are taking away our Constitutional Rights, politicians who want to run Social Security and Medicare into the ground, wars with no real purpose other than to expend materials and our young soldiers, an NSA that is buidling a massive data center in Salt Lake to collect information on everyone, and a homeland security that is suppose to protect us but might really be there to keep control. Ask yourself, is the middle class gaining or losing? Come on guys, let’s stop our bickering and throw all of these bums out of office and give the power back to the people.

    • sondra

      So true James. Isn’t it time We the People stand together & demand the “hired help” in
      Washington obey the law-the Constitution of the United States. The one they swore to uphold & defend “so help me God”. Those that cannot or will not we demand they step down or be walked out-all benefits stop. How long would any of you keep your jobs if you ignored the rules?

  • hk

    Wayne Allyn Root- America’s Jeff Spicoli REALITY.. Gee AMERICA “I JUST DONT KNOW” MR ROOT, aka SPICOLI, since you like to write in the PAST, start with Bushmeister and his 2 terms of CRASHING the Economy????? Where were you and your poison pen when Bushmeister requesting and getting his 2 WAR making bigger holes in OTHER PEOPLES COUNTRIES?? GEEE MR SPICOLI:”I JUST DONT KNOW” How about america giving you some tasty waves and a surf board and pot for a good buzz…COWABUNGA ….

  • Hey you

    It doesn’t seem to matter who is “President”. It’s all an ego game with deluded voters being the losers. One person, king, president, dictator, or whatever, is not the determining factor. Any real student of history knows that all bloated political empires end the same way. It was fun while it lasted, so don’t cry too much over the end of the USA.

  • http://morninglightalterations.wordpress.com dabudamasta

    Hey Wayne, Has anybody ever told you that the election was over and Romney lost it? I gather you must be a devout student of history because you are still analyzing events that happened during the Carter era. But please can’t you think of more recent vents to talk about like the government budjet sequestration, politicising women’s reproductive rights, transvaginal probe for women seeking abortion or even about legitimate rape issues, Pope Benedict XVI resignation scandal issues.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kurt.vanluven Kurt Van Luven

    Mr Root, I am disappointed! I thought you had seen through this fake Left Right crap already! I am quite proud of voting for Gary Johnson, he appears to have been the closest we have had in some time running who sounded like an ADULT!

  • Dad

    Well, little Jimmy… your political gymnastics did nothing to change history… other than electing a communist AGAIN! The height of insanity is electing the same incompetent Marxist and expecting a different outcome.
    Like you, grandpappy is still an idiot… and his record has not changed. Petty jealosy, childish envy, un-Christian-like revenge… looks like grandpa was as big a failure with his family as he was for the country.

    • pissed of & liberal

      A communist? i thought they elected Barrack Hussien Obama of the Capitilist Democratic party

  • Jim B

    Well that’s a dead horse, isn’t it!

  • R. Fine

    Why are you casting blame on the person who released the tape? After all it was Mitt who made the remarks. Granted it was a secret behind the scenes meeting but nevertheless the American people certainly have a need to know the true thoughts of those seeking high office during an election. Don’t shoot the messenger.

  • JON

    Unlike you, Wayne, when Jimmy Carter ran for President he was actually elected. Jealous? Unlike you, Wayne, Jimmy Cater has done a lot of positive in the world.

    • R. Fine

      What I find interesting is the slamming of Jimmy Carter or his grandson when it was poor old Mitt who was the one that made those stupid (but honest) remarks. Why blame someone who merely reported Mitt’s position and attitude?

      • Bob666

        Yo R
        “Why blame someone who merely reported Mitt’s position and attitude”?

        Why, beacuse republicans are never wrong. It is always someone else who is at fault, Obama did not get elected-it was fraud.

        And when they self destruct-you guess it-conspiracy!

        • Nick Czudy

          Hey Bob, Of coarse it was a conspiracy.
          In his first post election interview this week. Mitt Romney, lamented that he lost the election, because he was unable to get his message out to the minorities.
          Jon Stewart hit it exactly on the nail. He said that Romney failed because his message actually did manage to get out to everyone. :)
          Warm regards. Stock market on an all time high. Big message from the GOP congress this morning, how all of a sudden they are concerned about jobs, training, reducing debt and bi-partisan co-operation. Haha.. Really. They are a model of what it means to be Bi-Partisan.
          I watch this stuff, and follow the daily news, because it is more entertaining than any TV series. I get a laugh every day.

          More food for thought. The prostitute sex scandal came out today that it was all staged and paid for by some lawyer. I wonder what right wing politicians is behind this.
          The place to look is who is running against Mendez on the GOP side in the upcoming election, and the money that is behind that person. haha. Again, this is better than any scripted TV series.

          Yesterday I joined a website to take Rep (DR) Paul Broun off of the Science Congressional Science Committee. Here we have the GOP put Mr. Evolution and embryology are straight from the depths of Hell, guy on the science committee. Do you know how ridiculous that is. He also said that he has evidence that shows that the earth is about 9000 years old and that it was made in about 6 days, which matches what is being taught in the bible. This is about the very last kind of person to put on a science committee. He is the shining example of the Anti-Science guy. This is like the days of Copernicus where he was hesitant to say that the earth was not the center of the universe as it would label him as a heretic and he would suffer greatly. We cannot have such obvious nut cases being on a committee that has to deal with real scientific issues, global warming and NASA. Here is a link to a web site that is petitioning for him and Rep Mourdock to be taken off of the science committee, They would be better served to be on a Religious Committee. This is somewhere, that they may have a more relevancy.
          Truth is stranger than fiction. Haha Have a good day. cheers. Nick Cz

          Here is the link:……http://www.change.org/petitions/house-science-committee-remove-rep-paul-broun#share

          • R.F.

            Nick: It was a delight to read your message. You are quite knowledgeable – nice to see some logic around here. Cheers, R

          • Bob666

            Yo Nick,
            The GOP I once belonged to:

            http://www.creators.com/opinion/jim-hightower/let-s-adopt-these-planks-from-gop-s-national-platform.html

            What we have today is not our parents GOP, very un American.

          • Nick Czudy

            Bob,
            Thanks for the link to HighTower’s article. Isn’t it true. He is correct. The current GOP has morphed into a totally different entity now. There is no resemblance to the party of old. The movers and the shakers that are steering the party now, are single minded and they want to force their agenda onto the rest of the conservatives. hahaha. They talk so much of freedom, but they want to force their views on everyone. Maybe it is in their genes? I do not know. But I know a zealot and a nut case, when I hear one talk.
            Lets see what happens at this upcoming CPAC conference.
            If they think that their polices are OK, and they have to just repackage their presentation to the masses, I will know that they are doomed to lose more elections.
            I cannot see any other coarse for them, as they have all of the same old faces that are speaking there. These are not conservatives. These are zealots and extremists. They do not belong in a Conservative Party.
            I hope that you survive the snow storm today. Warm regards. Nick Cz

          • Bob666

            Yo Nick,
            Yes, todays GOP is not about freedom-it’s about control and purging of those who disagree with them.

            As for Snow, it was 77 degrees under blue skys in the Florida Keys today and the sunset is something to behold!

  • jopa

    Carters grandson does deserve a lot of praise for researching and actually bringing Romneys true nature to the public’s attention and virtually saving America from doom and gloom.However I just wish the individual that set the camera up would come forward so I can see with my own eyes the the number one hero in this saga.President Obama would have won without the 47% tape but it was nice to have that little extra cushion in there and now we have America prospering once again.We still have a ways to go but we sure are on the right track.

  • marsha

    carter and obama , cut from the same cloth, a dirty rag

    • robbiefine@hotmail.com

      Not much point in blaming a relative of a person who took and released the video. The real problem for Mitt was his comments and beliefs in the first place. Actually I’m glad the citizens of America got to find out what the Mittster had to say in private.

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