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Forgetting Ronald Reagan

February 10, 2011 by  

Forgetting Ronald Reagan

All right, this needs to stop before it gets completely out of hand. Even President Barack Obama is doing it these days: “I think Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America…” And you’re hard at work changing it back; right, Mr. President?

I met Reagan once. I was a kid, barely old enough to reach the copies of National Review at the book store. It was 1980, and he stopped in my town to remind us how much worse off we all were than we had been four years ago. To the best of my recollection, dark-horse Presidential candidate John Anderson came through town the following week, but by then he might as well have been a zebra on the track at the Kentucky Derby. The real jackass in the race never visited my town.

His physical stature paled next to his ineffable presence. He filled the room, and when he spoke to you, even if you were a snot-nosed kid who was never going to be able to vote for him, he was speaking to you. I immediately liked him.

He reminded me of my father.

Ronald Reagan reminded everyone of their fathers. At least, he reminded them of the fathers they grew up watching on television. Reagan would have understood that there was NO WAY you were the one who sliced a three-wood off the back porch into the neighbors’ garage; and besides, the neighbors were jerks anyway — putting their house right there.

As evidenced by the stampede of Democrats who cast ballots in Reagan’s favor in 1984, he was nearly everything to everyone. Reagan was the proud patriot who eulogized the heroes of Pointe Du Hoc. He was the indestructible superhero who shrugged off an assassin’s bullet while being wheeled into surgery. He was the soft-shouldered father-figure who held us in his warm embrace as we mourned the Challenger crew. He was also the glowering Titan who warned off danger, punished those who threatened our safety and made the bad guys rethink their career paths.

He was, of course, far from perfect. But, given that the last perfect guy who trod these earthly climes ended up nailed to a tree, I suppose we can and should forgive him his humanity.

While Reagan made patriotism stylish again, evoking Heaven itself in his effusive homage to America; he made life a living hell for Democrats. Even as they made gains in Congress in both 1982 and 1986, the Democrats couldn’t conjure up a candidate who could believably stand in the shadow of the Great Communicator without disappearing entirely. In 1988, George H.W. Bush had merely to run on his record of standing next to Reagan on a couple of choice occasions and Michael Dukakis was cooked. However, eight years of life as Reagan’s boy Friday meant only four years for Bush the elder. In fact, it could be fairly said four years of reminding us that he was not Reagan cost Bush four more years in the White House.

Reagan left the White House 22 years ago and this mortal plane seven years ago. But his legacy still lingers. The mere fact that everyone who could spell “Gipper” took a moment to observe the passing of his 100th birthday last Sunday is testament to his lasting influence. No one put together a special for LBJ’s 100th. Even Obama has tried to stroll in Reagan’s oversized shoes of late.

Last weekend, ABC’s John Berman whined that the observance of Reagan’s 100th was sending politicians over the edge:

"There is Reagan Airport, the Reagan Building, the Reagan Library. Then there is the church of Reagan, where candidates worship."

Hey, they ALL get libraries, John. There’s even a Clinton library, but you have to be 18 to get in. And have fun reading back issues of Juggs by the light of a purple neon moon.

With the 2012 Presidential race already heating up as everyone with an eye on the Oval Office begins making “I’m just sightseeing” trips to Iowa and New Hampshire, allow me to offer some advice to the prospective candidate:

Stop comparing yourself to Ronald Reagan. Although the media’s goal is to diminish you by comparison — which is itself an acknowledgement of Reagan’s greatness — they have this one right. I met Ronald Reagan; you’re no Ronald Reagan.

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • s c

    If progressives have anyhing to do with it, Reagan will be buried again. Of course, that does seem to be a bit impossible. He’s doing his best to act like Reagan, make everything Reagan did seem dangerous and immoral AND still cater to his moonbat, America-hating voter base at the same time.
    Maybe he forgot that no one forced him to become a prez. People will gladly line up to help him pack his bags and he can scurry back to Chicago. Maybe he can go to work for Rahmbo.
    As a last resort, he could move to Arizona, and help clean up the many tons of trash deposited there by his illegal chums. Or, he could work for Gore, and try to persuade Mama Earth to stop heating up Chicago (it’s been SO doggone hot there lately).

    • lkar

      I was a collage student when Reagan was elected president. I would say it was he more than anything that inspired me to conservative principles. I should point out that the truth and logic of conservative principles has kept on the right.
      However, as Ben pointed out, he was not perfect. I am still pissed about amnesty and its utter failure! If true immigration reform (not amnesty) had been acomplished under Reagan, I think his legacy would be even greater!

      • Ted Crawford

        Yes Ikar, on the immigration issue he failed to see the progressive bait and switch move in time. In spite of that we see that the progressives believe we are still unaware of their goals in that area. They try to pass an amnisty bill (dream act) without first securing the borders! Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me! Secure the borders then we will TALK about limited amnisty!

    • Bob

      What Reagan did:

      Supported Apartheid in South Africa.
      Supported terrorist groups in Central and South America.
      Appeased terrorists in Beirut.
      Cut and ran from Beirut.
      Raised taxes 11 times as president.
      Sold weapons to Iraq and Iran.
      Armed, funded and trained future members of Al Qaida and the Taliban.
      Illegally mined the Nicaraguan harbor.
      President during the Savings & Loan scandal.
      Doubled the national debt.
      Played politics with the lives of American hostages in Iran.
      Signed off on gun laws while governor of California.
      Once a union president.

      Find the real story, in the BEST book, of saint raygun:

      http://www.harpers.org/archive/2010/02/hbc-90006567

      • JC

        And you think all of that was done by “one guy”…”one President”?

        Let’s see…The CIA, The Military Industrial Complex and a host of Corporations are also at play here.

        You might as well be saying JFK trained Cuban “patriots” to invade castro’s Cuba. When in fact it was a CIA Black Op…just like the Al Quada (sp) training was.

        Presidents don’t go near any of that stuff…it just happens and that is what is wrong with this country.

        • JC

          PS…the rest is just business as usual for any President. They have no real power, or at least not as much as the owners of the Federal reserve, that’s for sure.

      • Vicki

        What Reagan REALLY did.
        ““…Mr. Gorbachev, Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!””

        That is a proper description of Reagan’s legacy to the world.
        http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2004/06/the-legacy-of-ronald-reagan

      • DaveH

        So then, Bob, you must agree that the best Government is Small Government?

        • bob wire

          sorry, not the bob you are asking. But permit me to say, large or small or simple words like effective are really not the words went need to be looking for to describe the government we would like to have.

          yes we need small effective government but effective in what way? ~ And small in relation to what?

          That deserves some thought.

          And yes BOB, Reagan did all those things and much more. ~ both bad and good and much we still suffer the effects from today.

          But attempt to understand Ronnie was endeared by the American people in a very special way. He took away much but he gave us something we badly needed at the time. He played a perfect game with Europe and the world is better off for his efforts today.

          Thanks for the reality check, some wish to be blind to it, but I hope that you might learn to honor the man for what he was and the good that he did and not be bitter.

          I was much like youself once, I finally let it go and feel better for it and you will too.

          • Vicki

            This might be a good description of the government we would like to have.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4r0VUybeXY

          • bob wire

            Thanks Vicky, yes I’m watched that maybe 4 times, when it was presented on another thread perhaps by you. It’s very well done and offers insights into the matter of labeling of governments.

            Of course you know that it does present a bias and directs the mind. Now where it is valid is the question to be answered, I suppose.

            Like I said , I had to watch it several times to understand what was bugging me with it. Beyond the straight linear path that truly doesn’t exist in real life the author does attempt to present a simple “mind picture” of labeled government and how they might compare with one another.

            When it narrows the spectrum down to a Republic “being the rule of law,limiting government and leaving the people alone” and of course this might be desired but is just doesn’t happening.

            And, then too, why would something like the ACLU be held in such contempt by so many Republicans if rule of law was so highly desired and sought after?

            It was an interesting thought provoking piece of work and I’m still chewing on it. Many Thanks bw

          • Vicki

            You are most welcome Bob. I probably am the one who posted the link before. I too have watched it several times and get new insights in the process. Like noticing the similarity between a democracy and that scene in Egypt that I have mentioned where 15 people voted on what to do with a truck.

            I have long known that democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner but that video really helps make the concept personal. The examples of a majority taking ones home or business or children. The example from the old west.

            It is a thought provoking video.

  • Bill

    To even mention Reagan in the same breath as Barry is sacrilegious. There is no comparison, not even in the same league. Barry will never come close to emulating Reagan’s greatness, accomplishments,nor his allegiance of the American People. Face it, Barry your days in the White House are over and there will be a new name on the lease. Pack your bags now.

    • Lomax

      I hope you are right about Barry’s political demise. I sure hope he is not re elected. We’ve had that scumbag in the White House to long. By comparing him with Ronald Reagan, the numb scull Time magazine is trying to over shadow Reagan with this light weight. If Fox News hadn’t brought it out, no one would have noticed. Time is going to wind up like Newsweek, sold for $1.00, which is more than it is worth.

      • Ted Crawford

        Yes Lomax about $1.50 more!

      • Kinetic1

        Hmmm, Freudian slip I guess. That should be God LIKE status.

    • Kinetic1

      Bill,
      “Sacrilegious”? So you admit that the right has lifted Reagan to God lie status?

    • Aix Sponsa

      About Barry, the cowboy said it best. “A cow pie don’t turn in to a bouquet just because you drop a few daisy seeds in it.”

  • JeffH

    My thoughts on President Reagan are of how he made Americans feel proud to be Americans. As I look back and reflect, I’m reminded of the challenge to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev to destroy the Berlin Wall.
    “…Mr. Gorbachev, Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!”
    Later on in his speech, President Reagan said that he noticed these words spray painted on the wall, “‘This wall will fall. Beliefs become reality.’ Yes, across Europe, this wall will fall. For it cannot withstand faith; it cannot withstand truth. The wall cannot withstand freedom.”

    As Americans, we are now seperated by a new wall, one that threatens the very foundation of our great nation. A wall we must tear down. A wall that will fall because “it cannot withstand faith; it cannot withstand truth. The wall cannot withstand freedom.”

    It was President Carter who attacked Reagan for injecting “hate and racism”, for being a “warmonger…and it ultimately backfired.
    It all sounds so familiar. The more things change,the more they stay the same.

    Ronald Reagan came to DC with just three stated goals.

    First, to bring the USSR to its knees. His victory over the USSR was attested to by former Soviet officials.
    Second, to get the economy deregulated and moving again.
    Third, to reduce taxation and the size of government.

    Two out of three Isn’t bad, considering he never had effective control of Congress from whence all spending is decided.

    Personally, I consider him our last real Presidents.
    One doesn’t have to like him but one should acknowledge that to the degree that the world was safer and more prosperous than it was, we owe him a debt.

    Ronald Reagan was a great American.

    • Michael J.

      JeffH,
      Good job Jeff, but brace yourself for the onslaught of Reagan haters. So fearful, even after his passing that another one like him will appear and again wipe the slate clean with irresistable logic and pride in country.
      We can only guess as to what the effect of one so great might have on the problems we face today. Would the dictators of the world be so brazen? Iran released the hostages on the day Reagan was inaugurated. Reagan demolished the wall with words alone. Reagan kept union dogs at bay by firing the air traffic controlers.

      • karolyn

        “another one like him will appear and again wipe the slate clean with irresistable logic and pride in country.”

        I, for one, do not see that happening.

        • Bruce D.

          Come on Karolyn. I am positive someone will come along. This is one time I would have agreed with you on a positive outlook and instead you come out on the negative side. Life is kind of funny in a way.

        • Michael J.

          karolyn,
          Which would you prefer, another Reagan or Hugo Chavez? How about Fidel Castro or Hosni Mubarak? These are the type leaders that the left produces and I’m guessing one of them would be more to your liking.

          • Kinetic1

            Michael J,
            This inflated image of Reagan’s greatness shows the ability of the right wing talking heads to create a golden idol for all Republicans to follow. You folks talk about his tough stance on foreign relations, but have you forgotten the whole series of Israeli insults and even provocations against US Middle East policies: “Annexation” by Menachem Begin of Syria’s Golan heights and a public dressing down of the American ambassador who complained about it. The invasion of Lebanon in 1982, which ended a US-brokered Israeli cease-fire with the PLO, followed by Begin’s refusal to stop bombing West Beirut until the US sent in Marines to supervise the withdrawal of its PLO and Syrian defenders. That was followed by the violation of Sharon’s pledge not to invade undefended West Beirut, but rather to let the Lebanese Army take it over. There was also Begin’s instant rejection of the “Reagan Plan” for Mideast peace, and the simultaneous proclamation of 10 new Jewish settlements on the West Bank. And this is just Israel!

            Reagan had an image that was bigger than life. There is little doubt that he inspired many to feel proud about America in a way that we had lost after Vietnam and Watergate. But the miraculous achievements that he is so often credited with often overshadow the truth. Few seem to know that Carter was close to a deal with the president of Iran that would have released only 4 of the 12 billion dollars in Iranian assets frozen by the U.S and would not have allowed any arms to be shipped. SURPRISE! The hostages are released within minutes of Reagan’s inauguration and the Iranian’s get all their money AND arms. Oh, and let’s not forget the many violations of U.S. law encompassed in Iran/Contra. So how tough is Reagan?

            Liberals are not afraid of Reagan, but we are disgusted by the Right ignoring the many disparities in his legacy that you continue to ignore. Listen to yourselves, you won’t even accept his decision to implement an amnesty plan without blaming it on a moment of weakness while working with progressives! How many politicians do we have to suffer through comparing themselves with Reagan? Reagan the great tax cutter who raised taxes a dozen times. Reagan the champion of smaller government who increased the size of government, including the IRS. Reagan the tough as nails commander who pulled our troops out of Lebanon after our soldiers were attacked. Did you know that, according to the 9/11 Commission Report (p. 68), Reagan’s response in Lebanon INSPIRED Bin Laden, who viewed the United States as a “paper tiger” because of its rapid withdrawal after the attack? Oh, for you second amendment folks, let’s not forget that Reagan fully supported the Brady Bill. Really, when it comes to the true legacy of Reagan, what’s to be afraid of?

          • Vicki

            Kinetic1 says:
            “Reagan the great tax cutter who raised taxes a dozen times.”

            Funny. Every time I check it is Congress that raises and lowers taxes. Hence it is Democrats that raised taxes all those times.

          • Kinetic1

            Vicki,
            I posted this further down, but it applies to your comment on taxes as well.
            The right often comes to Reagan’s defense with the excuse that the Congress is in charge of spending, but you seem to ignore the fact that the President purposes the budget that Congress accepts or denies. Of course the Congress does have the power to amend the purposed budget, but the President has Veto power. All this having been said, President Reagan never, NEVER purposed a balanced budget. Not even close! And the Veto? Well, he tried to veto a 14.2 billion appropriations bill, which he claimed would “bust the budget, but in fact the bill’s spending levels were lower than what he originally proposed! (You can thank the Heritage Foundation for that bit of information.) He supported the largest tax increase in history, wasted billions on the “Star Wars” defense system and, when you consider what was passed as opposed to what was spent due to fluctuations in unemployment, the economy etc. Reagan proposed spending $29.4 billion more than Congress passed.
            Congress may have passed the bills to raise taxes, but Reagan supported and signed the bills. In some cases he even proposed them.

          • Vicki

            Kinetic1 writes:
            “Congress may have passed the bills to raise taxes, but Reagan supported and signed the bills. In some cases he even proposed them.”

            So you are claiming that Reagan had all the power? What were those lovely democrat (remember they were the majority) representatives to do? Go against the great and powerful OZ and say no to spending. Not that I have ever seen democrats say no to spending.

            Sorry Kenetic1. The president can not write law. Congress creates the budget. It is upon their shoulders the blame must be set. No presidential power in history has ever created a budget. If they do not create it and vote for it then no presidential power can make it happen.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Vicki, the progressives just don’t seem to get, that the President has Veto Power & the Military, and not much more power. That’s why I always found it sooo funny when they bashed Bush, when In reality, the last two years of Bush it was the Dumocrats majority in congress!

          • DaveH

            Reagan vetoed more spending bills than any other President in the last 50 years. Is it somehow his fault that he was dealing with a Free Spending Congress?
            Funny that the Liberals always talk about his budget busting, but say nothing about the wild spending that Obama actually encourages.

          • Kinetic1

            No Vicki, I’m not suggesting that Reagan had all the power, but he did have the power to veto those tax hikes and he didn’t. He also has the responsibility to produce a recommended budget, as per the Congressional Budget Act of 1974.

            “The Congressional Budget Act of 1974 requires that the President of the United States submit to Congress, on or before the first Monday in February of each year, a detailed budget request for the coming federal fiscal year, which begins on October 1.”

            So, if the Congress approves the President’s budget and it increases the deficit, Is congress blameless? Of course not, but you can’t lay all the blame on Congress and hold the President blameless either. There is a balance built into the system that you folks seem to ignore when you want to lay the blame on the Democrats. Again I will point out to you that there are items in the budget that are fluid and may increase or decrease after the budget is approved. The success in anticipating the changes is based, in part on the Presidential budget teams ability to forecast the growth of the economy. Reagan was almost always overly optimistic, resulting in actual spending that exceeded that approved by Congress in all but one of his budgets. Given this, President Reagan’s proposed budgets were larger than those past by the Congress by 29.4 Billion dollars. So next time you want to lay the blame for Reagan’s record deficit on the Congress, just remember that it would have been worse if they had passed his proposed budgets as requested.

          • Vicki

            Kinetid1 writes:
            “There is a balance built into the system that you folks seem to ignore when you want to lay the blame on the Democrats. ”

            Would that be the balance that liberals always ignore by saying the president did it? We are just re balancing the system by pointing out who actually creates and votes for the budget. So anytime you guys want to stop blaming the president and start blaming the congress and the president you let us know. Until then we will continue to remind the new folk that CONGRESS creates the budget and votes for it. Or not.

          • eddie47d

            Vickie; Reagan did raise taxes 11 times; and next time you want to blame Obama for the deficit, well blame it on Congress and keep him out of it. I love the two faced silly arguments and it will flip flop back again. I won’t even have to hold my breath on that one.

        • Jana

          JeffH,
          Extremely good post. He did indeed make us feel proud to be an American. Unlike Obama who goes around and apologizes to the world because we exist.
          He was not perfect because he was HUMAN, but he certainly was wise, and he certainly was GREAT.

          • bob wire

            Yea Jeff can get the word out! ~ There is maybe 6 to 10 posters like Jeff here that have their thoughts together and will take the time to share them with us.

            I loved and hated Reagan, ~ now~ years later, I’m just respectful and thankful. But we need to all understand , what can cure today can also kill tomorrow.

            It’s not a straight path that we travel. All of our many challenges are not the same. There is a time to stand like the might Oak and a time to bend like the Willow, bring forward “all” of our talents to bear.

    • Bruce D.

      JeffH, I liked your post. There is something impressive about it that touch me in some way. I still pine for Ronald Reagan. Good job JeffH.

    • TIME

      Jeff,

      I agree that we have had only one President in modern times that was a “True American” as well stood for what “Freedom” really means,
      Mr. Reagan was that man.

      The rest aren’t worth a box of cow pies from Johnson – Soetoro.

      Saddly as rust never sleeps, niether has the
      “Progressive’s New World Order” their agenda is on tract and is coming to its end game very soon.

      Thats why I ask you all ~ “Please Wake Up People” I beg you, if you have children, grandchildren, or what ever, please get out of the pot of boiling water, do it NOW!

      Yes, its NOW boiling, Yes, its really HOT, Yes, if you stay in you will be COOKED. Is that really what you want?

      Was you’re life’s dream to be Human soup?

      Have you always wanted to be a SLAVE to the State?
      Was that really you’re lifes dream?

      Have you felt that chains of bondage were what would make you really happy?

      If you answered YES to any of these questions, just go back to sleep.

      • Lastmanstanding

        TIME. Thanks for your always accurate and truthful insite.

        A few people are waking up, but saddly I don’t believe fast enough. Those on all the freebies are lost. It won’t be until their “looking down the barrel of the gun,” that it will become apparent, (and it will be the govt gun.) These sheeple (for some reason that word is so appropriate!) are simply being used for their vote. It is a shame to see these fools (I meant to say folks!) with no belief in their own abilities and the opportunties that so many have fought and died for.

        Stay safe in your travels and God bless you and your family, especially, “YOUR” son…

        • TIME

          LMS,

          Thanks for the kind words, I have tried to wake as many as I can. I can tell you that at a dinner party what I say fails to make friends.

          What I can also add to that is that every progressive NWO type I have met is very taken back by what I know of their game plan.
          That speaks Volumes beyond words.

          Whats even Louder is that they also tell me time after time I am 100%
          on target. That should wake the dead, yet brain washing done right seems to have a lasting effect on the slow witted and or brain dead.

          • Mike In MI

            MAN, OH MAN, TIME -
            I’d love to see you in action some day. Given the people you move among – from what I’ve read in your posts – I’l bet the floor is covered with puddles of urine when you leave. But, I’ll also bet that a guy with as much heart and love as you leaves a sweet savor in the air.
            Yer the best, man. Give ‘em heaven.

          • Lastmanstanding

            TIME. I live in a small town about as far from Barryville as I can get. I’ll tell you and anyone else that will listen. The progs to oversee the area are already in place. (In their own minds) Real, honest Americans in our community have these smug bastards on the run. They control the media and have a direct pipeline to taxpayers money like I’m sure you can imagine. They lie, cheat and scam just like the crew in DC. I fact, There is a couple in the neighborhood that I call barry and michele. This couple had nothing until 2 years ago. They hooked their wagon to the progressive machine and now the taxpayers are picking up the tab in a big way. Things have never been better for them

            I could continue for days. It is amazing what you can find on the worldwide web in a few hours! It is easy to see why govt wants to control it.

          • Lastmanstanding

            TIME. Sorry for accidental submittation!!! (premature submittation!!!lofl…

            Anyhow, perhaps it will work out,God willing. Those who prepare will stand the best chance.

            I have drawn my line in the sand. All we can hope for is that others will do the same before it is too late.

            You can have dinner with us anytime…

      • Al Sieber

        TIME, I agree, and it’s hard trying to wake some people up, a lot are unreachable, but some are coming around slowly.

        • TIME

          Al,

          All we can do is keep up the good fight.
          Keep in mind God judges you on you’re actions, not you’re faith.
          Thus if we act in a way that is benevolant yet agressive we are in fact acting as agents of GOD’S word.

          No Man is is God like, nor should corrupt men rule over good men.

          • Al Sieber

            Thanks TIME, you know what’s up.

          • Jana

            Al,
            We desperately need to teach our children the truth about what is going on.
            If we don’t teach them, the world ie: school agenda’s, teachers, and even other kids, will teach them. You know the old adage the blind leading the blind.
            Our kids are the future, and they need, better yet they deserve to know the truth so they can go forward with factual knowledge.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        As Always well said TIME & God Bless!

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      Well said JeffH!

    • Kinetic1

      JeffH,
      Here are some more inspirational Reagan quotes:
      “I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself.”

      “Facts are stupid things.” -at the 1988 Republican National Convention, attempting to quote John Adams, who said, “Facts are stubborn things”

      “Trees cause more pollution than automobiles.”

      “We are trying to get unemployment to go up, and I think we’re going to succeed.”

      “My name is Ronald Reagan. What’s yours?” -introducing himself after delivering a prep school commencement address. The individual responded, “I’m your son, Mike,” to which Reagan replied, “Oh, I didn’t recognize you.”

      And finally
      “Politics is just like show business. You have a hell of an opening, you coast for awhile, you have a hell of a closing.” Yep, that sounds about right.

      • JeffH

        Kinetic1, what’s your point?

        A people free to choose will always choose peace.
        Ronald Reagan

        Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today’s world do not have.
        Ronald Reagan

        Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty.
        Ronald Reagan

        Democracy is worth dying for, because it’s the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man.
        Ronald Reagan

        Entrepreneurs and their small enterprises are responsible for almost all the economic growth in the United States.
        Ronald Reagan

        Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
        Ronald Reagan

        Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged.
        Ronald Reagan

        Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.
        Ronald Reagan

        Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
        Ronald Reagan

        Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other.
        Ronald Reagan

        Government’s first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.
        Ronald Reagan

        Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
        Ronald Reagan

        Governments tend not to solve problems, only to rearrange them.
        Ronald Reagan

        How do you tell a communist? Well, it’s someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It’s someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
        Ronald Reagan

        I’m beginning to understand….

  • Warrior

    Ben.

    A great opening paragraph! lol.

  • Bruce D.

    Thanks for the post Ben Crystal. Well done and appreciated.

    • Jana

      AMEN.

  • Jim

    I can only hope and pray that our next president will get American on the right track again. We have not had a worthwhile president since Reagan.What we have now is something else.

    • Aix Sponsa

      I often tell this story:
      I take one white pen, and one colored. I say, these are both pens. Each is different. Both write with ink. Each has differnt words on them. I hold them out and ask someone to “pick one”. When they pick one, I ask them, “Who picked that?” They always answer, “me”. I say, NO, I DID. They look at me strangely. I say, “NO, I gave you the choice. I chose the ultimate outcome. Republican or Democrat, what’s the difference.”
      Sometimes you can see the lights come on in their heads.

  • http://! Angel Wannabe

    Ronald Reagan_ not to be worshipped as a Messiah or God, he was simply a “Gift” from God!_
    His kind demeanor, his eternal optimism, the belief he had in America and the American People, just broke through the political haze in Washington!_-I remember he always referred to America as “the Shining City on the Hill” and that “America was the last stand on earth, that if we lose freedom here, there is no other refuge!”
    Like JeffH said above, I can still hear Reagan say, Mr Gorbachev, “Tear Down This Wall”
    There hasn’t been a man like him in White House since he left,(No President Obama you are not like Ronald Reagan)and I don’t see any on the horizon, that could begin to fill his shoes. His Memory is a force to be reckoned with, enemies feared him, the people he Governed believed in him, we had the best of both worlds!
    He was the epitome of a true American and is sorely missed.

    • Bruce D.

      Nice post Angel. One thing about Reagan that stood out was that people who opposed him, and there were many, still liked him. He treated his enemies as his equal and did not talk down to them. He knew who he was and what his truth was. He did not have to talk down to people to get his point across. People respected him for that.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Well said Bruce, thats what I say too, he was the type of man that demanded respect, not by force or coercion, simply by his demeanor. He was kind to everyone, something that I’ve not seen in a long time.

        • Jana

          Angel,
          I remember my father in law talking about when he was overseas, he knew he had a country behind him. When Carter was Pres. they all felt like they were on their own.
          This is how our whole country feels now, that we are on our own. We have no President that represents us, but is only ashamed of his own country.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Jana_ thats what I said about Obama._ While Dubya wasn’t perfect,my heart sank the day he took off in that chopper, and Obama took the oath of office, I did my homework, I knew where we were headed with Obama.

      • Ted Crawford

        I also noticed that during his tenure we had little trouble with the leftist countries! He didn’t have to talk tough. He simply stated his purpose and they understood, boys this guy woun’t warn you with toothless rhetoric, he’ll just turn you over like a burger on the grill!

        • Angel

          Mmmm… the Marxist-elected government in Nicaragua seemed to hold off Ronnie’s “Freedom Fighters” pretty well.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          Ted, Peanut Farmer Carter couldn’t get the hostages released, soon a s Reagan took over they were released. They knew Reagan wouldn’t put up with it!

          • Kinetic1

            Angel,
            I know you won’t know this since the right wing does there best to keep it secret, but “Peanut Farmer Carter” was taking a tough stance with the Iranians, refusing to release more than a third of the assets we had frozen or give them the arms they wanted. Reagan, on the other hand gave in to their demands. Is that how Reagan cowered his opponents? By giving them what they wanted? Were they shaking in their boots as he handed over the money?

            By the way, that’s Lieutenant James Earle Carter, Jr., USN, a respected Lieutenant who was among the the first officers chosen by Admiral Rickover (then a captain) to serve on the new Nuclear submarine fleet. He left the Navy to attend to the family business after the death of his father. Perhaps you could show some respect for a man who served his country with honor, showed his commitment to his family, and quietly stood firm against our enemies as President where other presidents would have chosen to puff themselves up and put on a show.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Kinectic, Respect works both ways!

          • Kinetic1

            Ohh, cut to the quick.

          • independant thinker

            “Reagan, on the other hand gave in to their demands.”

            Kinetic, the hostages were released so soon after Reagan was elected he had no chance to give in to their demands even if he were so inclined.

          • Kinetic1

            Independent Thinker,
            Read up on the Iranian President’s account of that time period. Reagan’s people were negotiating with the Ayatollah at the same time that Carter was negotiating with the President. It wasn’t legal, but it made for good politics.

          • Aix Sponsa

            When Carter too office, he dressed casually, carried his own bags, etc. I remember my father saying, “Carter is too much of a good old boy, too bubba, too common man. World leaders will never take him seriously when he says something.” 20/20 hindsight concurs.

          • Jana

            One of Carter’s problems was he couldn’t make a decision.
            Now days, when he makes a decision its the wrong one. He is more of a Socialist leaning towards Communism.

    • Tazio2013

      Angel Wannabe,

      It never ceases to amaze me that the you and your ilk; i.e., the palin beck/fox noise masses, are so ignorant, misinformed and delusional that you actually believe all the mythology and neocon spin on “Saint Ronnie”.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        hey Taz, find someone else to bother with your crap, I’m busy!

        • Jana

          Angel,
          We are all too busy for the ramblings of Taz.
          Good post.

      • Vicki

        “It never ceases to amaze me that the you and your ilk; i.e., the palin beck/fox noise masses, are so ignorant, misinformed and delusional that you actually believe all the mythology and neocon spin on “Saint Ronnie”.”

        Is there anything in there that is NOT an ad hominem attack? Totally devoid of even so much as a talking point. Sad.

        • Jana

          Vicki,
          That’s Taz for you. Totally devoid.

    • Kinetic1

      Angel,
      Heartfelt words from someone who didn’t actually know the man. How about some thoughts from those who did?
      James Garner – “Listen, I was vice-president of the Screen Actors Guild when he was its president, and we used to tell him what to say. He can talk around a subject better than anyone in the world. He’s never had an original thought that I know of, and we go back a hell of a lot of years.”

      Bette Davis – “Everybody called him ‘Little Ronnie Reagan the boy scout’ at the studio and we didn’t think he was terribly bright. For instance, in DARK VICTORY he is playing a gay man and he never really understood that. I will grant that he did give one good performance in his career–in KING’S ROW. He did love to talk, though. He would go on and on and would eventually bore everyone. Jane Wyman divorced him because he was a bore.”

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        kinectic, and your point is??__His original job was to be an actor__Sorry K, But no one can ACT as patriotic as Reagan was__Thats not gonna cut it!

        • Kinetic1

          Angel,
          I never said that he wasn’t patriotic. To the contrary, I believe that he felt strongly about our nation’s greatness, but even the biggest fool can be patriotic. My point was that he might not have been as great a man as he is portrayed by the right. I believe that his vision of America’s greatness and place in the world may have blinded him when it came to the crimes he committed in it’s name.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            K_ and the Obama crimes?___Healthcare and whether its Constitutional?
            Scoffin up the Internet, because he can’t take the heat & dissent of free speech, and hides behind the lie “its for the safety of the Country”??___Tappin phones emails,__all in the nmae of saftey?__Passin 2300 paged laws BEFORE THEY are allowed to BE READ???_Big promises of transparency_and locked out the repubs on closed door deals____and now the NOv elections are over Obama, wnats to work together___C’mon_C’mon_ Kenectic_Really?_-When you can come with something Bambi has done so far, that been good for the country and just the Liberal Ideology, I’ll listen, not until then. __The only good I’ve seen, is the insurance companies cannot cancel someone when they become ill.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Angel Wannabe,
            Well said and very, very TRUE!!!

          • Kinetic1

            Angel, do you always loose control like this when pushed? I was not comparing Reagan to Obama, I was comparing President Reagan to the President Reagan that the Right has created over the last 30 years. The only person who has been as perfect as the Reagan you all pine for is Jesus. President Obama is not perfect, and I didn’t say he was, but he has nothing to do with this discussion, except that some of you can’t help but suggest that we who disagree with you think he is the messiah. So, if it will make you happy,

            “Healthcare and whether its Constitutional?” 2 Judges have ruled all or part unconstitutional. More than a dozen ruled it Constitutional or refused to even be bothered to hear the case. We’ll just have to wait and see how high it goes.

            “Scoffin up the Internet, because he can’t take the heat & dissent of free speech, and hides behind the lie “its for the safety of the Country”??” You know full well that it has nothing to do with dissent. The government already has control of T.V. and Radio in an emergency, so it’s only logical that they would want control of the Internet as well. It is even more critical since the internet is a source of vulnerability in our government, our financial institutions and our communications. This is not to say that I like the idea. Giving the government this kid of power opens up all sorts of avenues for corruption and abuse, so I’m not going to be happy either way.

            Passin 2300 paged laws BEFORE THEY are allowed to BE READ???” Are we taking about Obama or the Congress?

            “Big promises of transparency” I agree. He has let us down on this one.

            “and locked out the repubs on closed door deals” Come on, Angel. Obama rolled over on demand after demand from the Republicans. Even when they told him that no matter how many concession he made, they would still vote no, Obama continued to give in to Republican demands. That’s the real failure of the Health care bill, too many concessions to Republicans.

            “and now the NOv elections are over Obama, wnats to work together” I can’t imagine why. As I just stated, no matter how many concessions he makes the Republicans will whine that he locked them out.

            As for what good he has done, it’s likely that you would disagree with most anything I mention, but what the hey.
            The Obama administration has, among other things created
            Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, the biggest financial reform law since the Great Depression.
            Created the Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection
            Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility and Disclosure Act
            Established a credit card bill of rights.
            Reformed credit card swipe fees.
            Created new criminal penalties for mortgage fraud.
            Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals.
            Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations and reports. (Bush loved to use that one.)
            Handled the bailout of GM, helping them to return to solid ground while avoiding a major financial catastrophe.

            There’s a lot more, and I could make a list of his failures as well (though I’ll bet you would argue those with me as well). The point is, Reagan is not the saint the Right portrays any more than Obama is a messiah.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Hey Kinectic, There’s a BIG difference between p*ssed off and Passionate!__You haven’t seen p*ssed off yet! :)

          • Jana

            Angel,
            Good going girl. Keep it up.

      • libertytrain

        kinetic -I actually did have the pleasure of face-to-face talk with one of his pals from the good old days – and he didn’t have the same take on Mr. Reagan.

      • Aix Sponsa

        Those are wonderful compliments to Mr. Reagan. He had the aptitude and ability to listen carefully to others, refine their ideas, and present them honorably and forcefully with his likeable personality so that others truely considered those words, whether they agreed or not. He was respected by most, and by that respect they gave him consideration.

  • PatriotDog

    Do you really think that Obama is acting more like Ronald Reagan? Thank again!!
    Obama is using the description of what Mohammad Alli did when he was ahead in his fight and wanted to gain energy to finish off his fight.  It’s called the “Rope-De-Dope”.  He is falsely appearing to go more to the center after he has gotten his Holy Grail of Obamacare and Financial Reform bills passed.  He didn’t get Cap’n Trade nor the infamous “Card Check” (which is against the free and personal vote) into law.  If Obama gets re-elected, I’m afraid that all hell will be let loose.  He will have nothing to lose as a lameduck President.  EVERYONE MUST FIGHT TO ELIMINATE THIS MAN FROM OFFICE BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE ALONG WITH ALL THOSE OTHER PROGRESSIVE MARXISTS WITHIN THIS ADMINISTRATION.  IT’S NOT THE FREE MARKET THAT IS THE PROBLEM.  IT’S GOVERNMENT GETTING IN THE WAY TO LET IT GROW.

  • http://gunner689 gunner689

    Happy Birthday Mr. President. Thank you for all that you represented and for your leadership. We miss you and need your kind again, now more than ever.

  • Eric Bischoff

    Oh Ben bringing Reagan to the level of Jesus, have you lost your mind completely. It’s amazing to me how delusional people can create an alternate reality that suits their limited minds.

    Let’s review some facts.

    He was the John Birch Society’s favorite candidate. Need I say more.

    He opposed CIVIL RIGHTS

    He sided with the APARTHEID REGIME of South Africa. Even Desmond Tutu called him a racist

    He DESTROYED the CALIFORNIA FREE TUITION University system, one that was the envy of the rest of the country. But hey he believed that education was a privilege for the privileged. God forbid we should educate the masses! Who would be left to put in jail!

    He removed Solar Panels from the white house and killed alternative energy research. We’ll never need that!

    He DEREGULATED BANKING and then Oops! we got the S&L crisis. Granted unlike today Banksters people went to jail for that one. Not the Bushes though. Remember Silverado!

    As all good Conservatives in power seem to do. He tripled the gap between the amount of money the federal government took in and the amount it spent. He did this by cutting tax rates by an average 25 percent, while aggressively increasing defense spending.

    He went after the Middle Class and the workers of America with a vengance. Wages have been stagnant ever since. Then he turned around and gave MASSIVE TAX CUTS to the WEALTHY. Yeah that’s Jesus like.

    He is responsible for our out of control health care costs. Before he became President he was a shill for the Medical Industrial Complex. He made LP records to sell us on HMOs.

    He was a likable B Movie actor. He was elected by big money, aren’t they all. He wasn’t that smart and he surrounded himself with traitors, crooks and thieves. Someone should investigate whether he was mean or if he just let a bunch of ruthless thugs make policy for him. The Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld and the NeoCons were all from that era.

    For Christ sake!, he should have been impeached for treason for the secret dealings with the Iranians so that they would not release the hostages under Carter therefore threatening his being elected. From there it was all downhill. His administration kept right on going secretly and illegally selling a lot of weapons to America’s enemies. But hey blow jobs are what we care about!

    He didvided the country and we have never recovered since. What planet are you Reagan lovers all living on?

    Bedtime for Bonzo. Enough with the lies!

    So let’s review Conservative Reaganomics

    When Reagan came into office
    We were the largest manufacturer in the world
    We imported raw materials
    and exported finished goods
    We were the largest creditor in the world
    Everyone borrowed money from us
    We had no trade deficit
    25% of our nation’s labor force was unionized which means,
    50% of our labor force had a job where a single worker
    could raise a family, buy a home, a car and send kids to college.

    30 years later, in just 3 decades

    After lowering taxes for the rich
    After massive Deregulation
    after craming free trade down everyone’s throats

    We are the largest debtor in the world
    We have the largest deficit in the world
    We are the largest importer of finished goods
    We are the largest exporter of raw materials
    Our citizens are less educated, sick and broke
    We have high unemployment
    and it now takes 2 workers to try and raise a family
    People who have worked their whole life
    have seen their retirement savings wiped out.
    We are the world’s largest 3rd world nation
    We’re embroiled in war after war
    and we’ve so angered so many people that
    they are willing to commit suicide to get back at us.

    Knowing this, do you still love Reagan and trickle down economics and free trade?
    Do you still want to have Republicans and Neocons to regain power and apply their stupid destructive policies that only make the already rich richer?

    Aren’t you finally ready for a real progresive agenda?
    It’s not that scary, Reaganomics is scary.

    Remove the blinders, open your hearts and your minds, educate yourselves.

    Read about a much better successful alternative to our failing crony capitalism and pretend free trade. Examine the very successful Mondragon model of Spain and Italy’s Emilia-Romagna. Worker Owned Cooperative Corporations. These models show that there’s more to life than what’s been dreamed of in our cold war philosophies. Local cooperation and the ability to produce for highly competitive international markets needn’t be mutually exclusive — the two can blend like oil and vinegar.

    Don’t be so scared your whole life.

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      Eric “Ta Ta”! :) CRICKETS!—CHEEP CHEEP!

      • Ted Crawford

        Angel, it becomes very easy to understand and therefore ignore people like kenetic and eric after reading comrade Alinskys book Rules for Radicals. One of his favorite tactics is to amass a hugh number of statistics, infuse them with their own partisan view point and spew them everywhere in an attempt to overwhelm the less informed!
        I’ll agree that it is hard to read the sad rantings of this delusional man, it does bring into focus why the progressive legislators feel the need for massive 2000+ page bills, and progressive bloggers post long wordy posts almost completely devoid of anything substantive!

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          And Ted C, thats how they get a hold on those folks not informed. If they’re sitting in the middle of the road, uninformed, they Can are swayed. On the same note,what the Conservatives have to say may not be what confused folks wanna hear either, its a toss. All we can do is just keep talkin and just hope like the dickens, we can break through to them, and finally hoist them onto our side of the boat!

    • Michael J.

      Eric Bischoff,
      Your post will have the longevity of a fart in a tornado.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Michael J____ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Angel Wannabe,
          Eric says REAGAN surrounded himself with crooks?!?!?!? what the hell does he think Nobummer has done?!?!?!

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            JoeH, Thats just waaay too funny for words!!!!_EGADS and OMG!!!

    • Bruce D.

      I read a few lines of your post Eric to see where it was going. I am sorry you were not able to share Reagan’s greatness like the rest of us. We do not expect you too though. People know Reagan’s legacy and place in history. You cannot rewrite it in a blog and expect credibility.

      • Eric Bischoff

        God forbid anyone would fact check me before being incensed. I realize it’s not easy to accept that you have been fooled by propaganda. No one likes to be made a fool. But the truth has to be told.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          eric , weve not been fooled, BUT YOU HAVE ! ;)

          • Jana

            Angel,
            What can you expect. Eric is an Obama worshiper.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Jana Ats what I’m sayin and the Progs are upset, because we fondly remember Reagan. When they put forth a Reagan from the left, then we;ll talk!!__quite frankly it’ll be awhile! ;)

          • http://?? Joe H.

            About the second tuesday of NEVER!!!!

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            JoeH, At’s what I’m sayin!!

        • JC

          Why bother fact checking ANYTHING you say? You’re a statist/communist/ liberal…you people operate on lies and propoganda at the best of times.

          • Bruce D.

            Well said JC!!!

          • JeffH

            JC, thanks for saving me from wasting my time on this commie.

        • Eric Bischoff

          I see the usual cast of characters are here. You guys are so predictable with your circle the wagons and let’s back each other up with stupid childish moronic asinine one liners methods.

          • JC

            That we back each other up is the operational part of what you have said here. Unlike you commies who will be turning on each other the minute the tide turns back to Americanism.
            There is the difference between Patriots and invertebrates.
            Have a nice day. :)

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            JC, Boy ain’t that the Truth!!!

          • Jana

            Eric,
            You are also very predictable!

          • JeffH

            Speaking of predictable…Eric the Red.

          • eddie47d

            The only thing predictable is the commie rants from the right.

          • JeffH

            eddie47d says:
            February 11, 2011 at 10:15 pm
            The only thing predictable is the commie rants from the right.

            …spoken like a true supporter of the commie…

      • Eric Bischoff

        Maybe that’s the problem ADD. You are not capable of reading more than a few lines and absorbing. But yet you already have an opinion on my post. You are all living with soundbite propaganda and you think you know. We have the biggest and most media and we know the least about what’s going on in the world and in our own politics. And that’s a sad fact.

        • Bruce D.

          You can’t really cut and paste a long post like that and start it off with a bunch of nonsense and expect people to read the whole thing.

        • Bob

          Good posts, Eric.

          I enjoy reading them immensely.

          Please continue your work, defending America, from Conservatives!

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            BOB__Defending America from Conservatives?!!___HAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAHAAAA!!!!
            __Can you hear laughter Pharaoh?

          • john

            Yeah, god post Eric, continue with your plagiaristic post.
            In other words, continue to display your ignorance.

          • Eric Bischoff

            It’s the nature of the beast.

            Conservatives are fearful, paranoid always holding things back afraid to change.

            Progressives can’t help themselves they want to constantly improve/change things. They will make mistakes but at least they try and try again.

            Progress is never easy, if it was everyone would be doing it!

            Like it or not we are all enjoying the fruits of hard fought progressive battles.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Eric,
            It’s like a machine. If it ain’t broke it don’t need fixin!!!!

          • TIME

            Eric,
            So Progressive want to move forward really? So lets see to chip people is progressive, why is that?
            I know the answer straight from one of the top, so whats you’re explanation?

            Is it also progressive to say that the vast amounts of people should be removed from the living?
            Please explain whats progressive about that idea?

            Can you also while you’re at it explain whats Progressive about a “slave state?”
            You know thats where the pee-on’s work for the masters of the Castle keep, as in a two class system, the Have’s, and well the slave’s. Please do explain whats Progressive about that.

            Perhaps you’re views would be far more informative as to what progressive’s really want as you claim to be one I am sure you can explain it to everyone with vivid detail.

            Now please do keep in mind I am not being combative, I am asking you why you feel the noted issues above are Progressive?

            Thanks for you’re responce in advance I am sure you can shed far more light on the Progressive movment than anyone else.

          • Jana

            Eric,
            If you call people out of work, prices soaring, our country in deep debt under Obama, fruits, then they are very sour fruits.

          • Jana

            Eric,
            AND, we certainly are NOT enjoying them!

      • Kinetic1

        Bruce D.
        How true, The re-write of history has come from years of right wing propaganda and there is little chance that a blog will convince you of the truth. We try to point out the many errors and fallacies, to educate you regarding the many immoral and illegal actions taken by Reagan during his term as President of the Screen Actors Guild, Governor of California, and finally President of the United States, but we know that most of you won’t even take the time research the facts presented. So carry on with your false idol. You will never see a man like him again, because even he wasn’t a man like him.

        • Bruce D.

          The problem with your educational process is that it leads to control over individuals and society by trying to debase a man who stood for individual freedoms, liberty, and the greatness of America.

          • Kinetic1

            “a man who stood for individual freedoms, liberty, and the greatness of America” No matter what laws he had to break or people he had to sell out.

          • Jana

            Kinectic,
            That sounds like Obama

    • Ted Crawford

      Most of your post is idiotic drivel. An example with regards to “his” increased spending, Artical 1, Section 7, U.S. Constitution clearly puts the Nations Pursestrings in the hands of the Speaker of the House. That was one Tip O’Neil, Democrat! Reagans accomplishments inspite of that is what points out his effectiveness!

      • Kinetic1

        Ted,
        The right often comes to Reagan’s defense with the excuse that the Congress is in charge of spending, but you seem to ignore the fact that the President purposes the budget that Congress accepts or denies. Of course the Congress does have the power to amend the purposed budget, but the President has Veto power. All this having been said, President Reagan never, NEVER purposed a balanced budget. Not even close! And the Veto? Well, he tried to veto a 14.2 billion appropriations bill, which he claimed would “bust the budget, but in fact the bill’s spending levels were lower than what he originally proposed! (You can thank the Heritage Foundation for that bit of information.) He supported the largest tax increase in history, wasted billions on the “Star Wars” defense system and, when you consider what was passed as opposed to what was spent due to fluctuations in unemployment, the economy etc. Reagan proposed spending $29.4 billion more than Congress passed.

    • Dr. Mabuse

      Eric,

      There is no future in throwing alarm clocks off into the boneyard.
      Let the dead bury the dead.

      • Eric Bischoff

        Not as long as our crooked politicians and ignorant masses who elect them are all falling over themselves and making Reagan out to be the greatest president ever. That’s an insult to intelligence.

        • Bruce D.

          The problem with you Eric are the sources from which you derive your so-called intelligence. To use a quote, “garbage in-garbage out”.

          • Eric Bischoff

            More baseless factless ASSumptions.

    • Al Sieber

      Hey Eric, I get the John Birch society’s magazine, “The New American”, they got a bad rap years ago, so what’s wrong with them?

      • Bruce D.

        I think Al that they had a bad rap because they were before their time or ahead of the curve. People over the years now understand what they were talking about. The tactics use to demonize them are common on the left now.

        • Eric Bischoff

          I am sure you are right especially if you regard paranoia and a campaign against civil rights to be something to be proud of. You might want to follow the money. The Koch family’s money is all over this and now they are funding Tea Parties which some of you have been fooled into believing are just honest healthy well meaning grass roots movements. Wake the hell up.

          • Bruce D.

            To come out with that kind of a post about Reagan causes you to lose credibility. You can’t expect to get it back by slandering other people. Who is it that you stand strong for???/

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Eric_ no YOU WAKE UP, Haven’t you heard,the Democratic Party’s been Hijacked, Soros is your boss now__Hows the Pay there, Hourly or piece work?

          • Eric Bischoff

            Well at least Soros has pledged and is giving away his entire fortune to charity before he dies unlike your bosses the Koch brothers and Rupert Murdoch and the Saudi prince. Who is the fool?

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Eric_ the Koch brothers & Rupert Murdoch and the Saudi Prince with ah hem, 14% stock in Fox news, aren’t trying to fundamentally transform America into Socialism either!__You Libs hate anyone that has money,(except yourselves) no matter wether they were born to it, were self made Millionaires or what have you, and your kind think because someone has money they stole it and your entitled to it, go make your own millions!__LOVE_Your Serve!!!!!

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Oh and Eric__ Soros didn’t pledge to give away his fortunes, I know who did, his name was John Huntsman of the Huntsman Cancer Institute, who said it, I believed your confused, or are trying to hijack ANOTHER fine Man’s Repertoire, like your trying to do with Reagans?!!

          • Eric Bischoff

            Angel you sure have a lot of ass-umed crap in your head about who I am and what I believe. I try and tell you but obviously you are not interested in reading about it. You would rather listen to yourself speak about what I believe rather than hear it from me. What’s with that?

          • Eric Bischoff

            It’s not the people with money that is the problem, it’s how it sometimes is made, how it is used and what it tries to buy and influence that matters.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Eric, Money is like sex, it’s only a Big Deal when your not getting any!___Why spend your time here,trying to change the think of Solid Conservatives, especially, if you feel so strongly about the little man. __ Then Go out and do something to help them!

          • JeffH

            Eric the Red! Funding the Tea Party is a good thing. The funding of socialist/communist organizations designed to undermine America’s government, freedom and liberty as Soros is doing is a bad thing.

            Soros funded: Enemies of the State
            http://jds-midknightreview.blogspot.com/p/herods-temple-model.html

          • JeffH

            FYI-Soros funded Enemies of the state also include the SEIU, AFL-CIO, ACLU, a host of militant environmental organizations, the Black Panthers, the New Black Panthers, the Open Society Institute, CAIR, The Nation of Islam, Black Liberation theology, the KKK (originally, an exclusive Democrat organization), the Democrat Socialist Party, a host of feminist organizations, the United Churches of Christ, the Southern Poverty Law Center and the OFA.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JeffH,
            Speaking of the TEA party, did you hear they have two new progressive targets??? They are looking to defeat Debbie Stabinow who supports the fairness doctrine. funny she should decide to do that seeing how her husband was a vice president of Air America!!!!
            the other one is Olympia Snowe. she has supported odumba care, and was behind radical judges elena Kagan and sonia Sotomayor!!! I’d say they were both good choices to bring down!!

          • Al Sieber

            Hey Eric, you need to check out the interview with your buddy G. Soros on 60 minutes.

          • Al Sieber

            Eric, how money is made? how about Soros, your buddy, selling out Jews to the Nazis for money, when he was a kid? justify that. he’s proud of that.

          • Jana

            Eric Bischoff says:
            February 10, 2011 at 1:55 pm

            Angel you sure have a lot of ass-umed crap in your head about who I am and what I believe. I try and tell you but obviously you are not interested in reading about it. You would rather listen to yourself speak about what I believe rather than hear it from me. What’s with that?
            *****************

            Oh we know what you believe. You are a man of many words who paints pictures of himself very well. We know you, we recognize you for what you are, and we reject what you have to say because you have a distorted viewpoint. We could nickname you Mr. communist.

          • JeffH

            Jana, that’s what I been sayin’ all along…way to git ‘er done girl.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Hey Al Sieber__Check this out below

            http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=260577

          • eddie47d

            Jeff;Soros is funding the KKK? You are grasping at straws in your desperation to slander. You’re as credible as a flying fruitcake.

          • JeffH

            eddie, at least a straw and “flying fruitcake” have more credibility than ole Eddie47D…!

    • Tazio2013

      Eric Bischoff,

      Tip of the hat to you for being so bold by telling the truth about “Saint Ronnie”; the most brain damaged (early signs of Alzheimer’s disease during his first term is a medical fact) POTUS and the man indirectly responsible/culpable for killing 241 US Marines in Lebanon in 1983. The white wing wackos, crusading christian conservatives and radical republican reactionaries who frequent PLD may wish to apply the principles of objective reality to this statement before you react with your typical foolishness and nonsense.
      Looking forward to reading at least one intelligent, rational, knowledgeable reply. Semper fi!

      • Bruce D.

        I am looking forward to you writing one Tazio2013.

    • http://wellington-luxury-homes.com katerina

      Hey Eric,
      You can put down Reagan all you want, that is your opinion.
      As you point out things that really don’t matter in the grand scheme of the universe I will point out why me and my family will forever be grateful to Reagan.
      We lived on the border of East and West Berlin. We saw people get shot for trying to escape to the west. My family is from Latvia. We were very wealthy land owners and business owners in Latvia so we made Stalin’s hit list. We escaped and were sponsored by a family in Tacoma WA after my family spent 5 years in a refugee camp in Germany. We prayed every day that we would have a President here who would undo what FDR did to Latvia.
      Thank you President Reagan, for pushing the east to tear down that wall! That wall is an eery wall. One side, the west is a wall of freedom of expression through graffiti , yet all you have to do is turn to the other side, the east, and see not one sprinkling of paint, no freedom of expression, yet many bullet
      scratches rest as a stark reminder of what happened to anyone who expressed their desire to be free.

      So for me and my family and many Latvians, Reagan was a hero and a brave human being who we are forever grateful for for after all all the material things don’t mean a thing if you do not have the freedom to enjoy them.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Katerina, your story is touching, God Bless you and your Family and Glad your free!

      • Bruce D.

        Nice post Katerina. Most of us understand what you are saying. There are some that do not want to understand.

      • Eric Bischoff

        Katerina, yes in my opinion he was not the hero and saint a lot of you make him out to be. But I have formed this opinion based on many facts that a lot of you just can’t seem to face. So what you just turn a blind eye. and create this illusion!

        I don’t know your entire story how could anyone but I know this. The stories we get from people who have money and escaped from oppressive governments are not the same stories we get from the people who staid behind and fought to make their countries better.

        If Reagan hadn’t escalated an arms race maybe the Soviet Empire would have had a different outcome. A more peaceful and prosperous one. We destroyed many economies with a stupid and pointless arms race. Always with manufactured information to scare the masses into opening up their wallets and giving up their sons and daughters.

        And what did we accomplish, we tore down a wall in Berlin and built two walls one in Palestine and one on the Mexican border.

        Isn’t it time we have an Egyptian moment in this country and tell the Military Industrial Complex and Banksters Industrial complex that they have to go. Enough is enough!

        • Bruce D.

          Like I said Katrina. Some people do not want to understand.

        • Jana

          Katrina,
          Eric comes from a Communistic ideology, so you have to consider the source when it comes to him.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Jana , H*ll eric should know how stalin worked then, hes one of them, isn’t he?

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Eric,
          that arms race was what finally was the down fall of the Soviet Union, One of the most oppressive and inhumane governments the world has ever seen!! There are people today walking around free thanks to that collaps!!

    • independant thinker

      “Oh Ben bringing Reagan to the level of Jesus,”

      This deliberate distortation of what Ben said is enough to discredit the rest of your rant. Ben said Jesus was the ONLY perfect person and that Regan had faults. In admitting regan had faults Ben is putting him far below Jesus.

    • Aix Sponsa

      Geez Eric, you sure can twist em, baby. YEEEEHHHHHHHAAAAAAAWWWWW.

    • Vicki

      Eric Bischoff says:
      “Oh Ben bringing Reagan to the level of Jesus, have you lost your mind completely. It’s amazing to me how delusional people can create an alternate reality that suits their limited minds.”

      Ad hominem attack. the rest of the post is irrelevant. Too bad. He wrote a lot that might have been facts.

      Lets be daring and look at the first one or two.

      Eric Bischoff says:
      “Let’s review some facts.
      He was the John Birch Society’s favorite candidate. Need I say more.”

      Argument to ridicule.

      Eric Bischoff says: “He opposed CIVIL RIGHTS”

      Proof by bald assertion.

      Sigh. And not even 1 cite to back up his “facts”

      But this post is a lot shorter than it could have been :)

    • Marten

      Way to go Eric……

  • Polski

    It truly is amazing that people who supported Dubya for 8 years are complaining about Obama. Obama is a lousy president. Dubya was much more lousier. I got my spelling inspiration from the “collage” student in one of the earlier posts. Reagan hurt the country in many ways that are being ignored. Like they say, the victors write the history books. And people said that the Soviets were revisionists of history…..WOW……LOL….I liked the previous post about the free market, the “GOVERNMENT GETTING IN THE WAY TO LET IT GROW”. You have to admit, Dubya didn’t do that, and we all benefitted with AIG, fanny mae, General Motors, etc. etc.

    • Ted Crawford

      Would you care to point out these ” many ways” or are you content with yet again another Alinsky Rant?

    • Jeep

      Polski? Like you, or your ancestors are from Poland? If that is the case, I find it interesting that you fail to mention Reagan’s role in the freedom Poland now enjoys. I would think that would be enough. But, apparently, some people are never satisfied.

    • Vicki

      Polski writes:
      “Dubya didn’t do that, and we all benefitted with AIG, fanny mae, General Motors, etc. etc.”

      We befitted just fine until government got involved. Both in causing the mess and then spending our money to bail out those failed businesses.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivmL-lXNy64
      (listen starting at about 2 min into clip)

  • jopa

    President Reagans greatness lives on in his son Ron junior.He would make another great president with his honesty and integrity.Wouldn’t it be nice to say we have Mr, Reagan as our president again.

    • Eric Bischoff

      I like Ron but let’s be honest what chance does a gay man have in america of ever becoming president.

      • JC

        About as much as you do of becoming an American?

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          JC, “SHOT SCORE”!! ;)

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Eric WHO REALLY CARES???

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Eric_ your words___”I like Ron but let’s be honest what chance does a gay man have in america of ever becoming president.”

        I’ll say again WHO CARES?__I never cared what Reagan did behind closed doors, and I sure as heck don’t care what Obama does__ what makes it different if they’re Gay?__The only problem I have with gays is they’re d*mned, screaming flamboyant arrogance about it!_like they’re something special cuz they’re different.

      • Aix Sponsa

        Are you gonna run?

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        Probably pretty good; look what we elected last time and how that turned out. Maybe next time we can elect a female, one-legged midget lesbian. That should cover all the major bases.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          gunner689__LMAO!!!

    • http://gunner689 gunner689

      You’re right; Michael Reagan would make a good president.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        gunner689 Agreed!!

  • Angel

    Reagan? Worst president ever.
    Some FACTS:
    - Raised taxes six out of eight years. Don’t blame the Democrats, he had the veto power.
    - Legalized ABORTION in California in 1970.
    - Cut and ran from Lebanon
    - Negotiated with terrorists, sold arms to IRAN! Then lied about it twice on national TV and again in a court in 1990.
    - Broke the law by violating the Boland Amendment
    - Tripled the national debt to about $3 TRILLION
    - Complete racist – opposed a Federal holiday for Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., supported the apartheid government of South Africa, stood with racists (and convicted ones at that) throughout the South
    - Despite complaining about HUD, turned it into a government program to aid cronies and Republican contributors with sweetheart contracts with no oversight
    - Most corrupt administration ever – most investigations, most scandals, most indictments, most jail time. Yes, worse than Nixon and Clinton COMBINED.

    Wake up people! As Ronnie said, “facts are funny things”

    • Tazio2013

      Martin K,

      He was the second worse POTUS; cheney bush was the absolute worse to date.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Taz, I gotta hand it tO you Liberals, you do try to disrupt things,
        I’ll give ya an ATTA BOY!!!!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Angel Wannabe,
          Taz is like the scarecrow, If he only had a brain!!!

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            JoeH, Only in the land of OZ!

          • Jana

            Angel,
            It would have to be a pretend brain like the one in Oz.

  • P Burgess

    So Reagan said ,tear down this wall, but the Russians did not shake in their boots, in fact it was over 2 years, closer to 2 1/2 years before it happened and that was due to a mis worded message to let more people go to the other side, and if you remember the pictures of its demise the people were taking it down. I doubt that his statement had little to no effect on it.
    Reagan gave amnstey to 2 1/2 million illegals.
    He and Gingrich took away 2/3rds of social security from a select group of government employees, although FULL QUARTERS had been paid in, social security was not supposed to have been fooled with.
    What was so great about Reagan, other than a good communicator?? ZILCH

    • Bruce D.

      Gorberchev gives Reagan credit for ending the cold war and he would know as he was the other party. So what are you talking about?

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Bruce, the Progressives won’t give any of our own any credit, your wasting your time.

  • 45caliber

    I had one thing against Reagon. His amnesty program for illegals. But considering that he agreed to that on condition of sealing our border, I suppose I can forgive him since the Democrats reniged on their promise.

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      45_ Reagan was a friggin saint compared to what we’ve had since, I don’t care how you slice it!

  • http://! Angel Wannabe

    I gotta laugh at you progressives, your as predictable as an Enema. I think Conservatives can even smell you coming too_ lol
    I love how You think by coming on this site and roll off a few numbers and a opinion, that we’re ALL gonna stop, drop and roll over to your rhetoric and wait for another story, to enlighten us with. Sorry but My Dad was the only one I’d sit for a story for!. Your “Facts are Funny Things parroting, and your optimism is only commendable, to those interested in comic books, BUT STILL, your welcomed to TRY and Re-write those, and add Obama your Messiah as the current hero of the day. The comic book audience are the only ones, who’ll believe it! My guess is alot you Progs downing reagan weren’t even born when he served, you’ve just read some stuff and think you know!__I’ll let ya to it then_Lol!__Have a great day! ;)

    • Angel

      So predictable – anyone that disagrees with your empty-headed mentality is a progressive. Some of us that have supported the conservative movement for over 40 years remain appalled at the FACTS of the Reagan years. He wasn’t a true fiscal conservative – he was a channel for gutting the government to the sole benefit of his benefactors. He made government the biggest it ever was in history. Reagan was the ultimate “comic book” hero, Angel – no substance, just made up. So, stop, drop and roll over to the library and get some FACTS.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Well Well we have a new Messiah wannabe on board here on this site___ Martin K__How’s about you Go pound Sand!___Your NO Conservative, your nothing but a Progressive Plant. Your sheep skin slipped off!_Your only here trying to disrupt a Celebration of a Memory of a fine man, its not workin’! Pick up your signed Soros checked and don’t let the door hit ya, where the Good Lord split ya on the way out! :)

        • Jana

          Angel,
          Martin K is NOT a conservative. Go back and read his previous post. He is one of those weirdos, you know Communist/Socialist aka Progressives.

          Someone who would want our country to turn to Socialism or Communism is a weirdo.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Jana_ Every last one of these Progressive Liberals and they’re think, are just Power Hungry B*stards! They even gotta try and rule the conversation, the bunch of dopes!

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Martin K, and besides, my post was to Progressives__if your a REAL conservative, why did my post strike a chord with YOU???

    • Kinetic1

      You know Angel, those little emoticons you use really do a good job of highlighting just how smug you are. I’m sorry to disappoint you, but it is the very fact that I lived through the Reagan years that encourages me to try and dispel the right’s fantasy image of the man. His natural charm and abilities as an actor made him a man whom many Americans could look up to. The Right saw this and immediately began the process of transforming him into the false idol that you all worship today. It’s not easy, but the truth about the man is out there for those who care to look.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        kinect your words__”The Right saw this and immediately began the process of transforming him into the false idol that you all worship today. It’s not easy, but the truth about the man is out there for those who care to look”

        Well kenectic__Your on a Conservative site, pushing your Messiah’s message of supposedly being law, isn’t that the same thing your accusing us of?___Problem with that is, we are where we belong, your an outsider!!!!__Ya gotta get up earlier K.

        • Kinetic1

          Angel,
          You need to spend more time reading and less jumping to conclusions. I do not hold President Obama to the level of greatness that you on the right hold President Reagan. I see and readily admit to Obama’s failures, though I also recognize his successes. I see President Reagan’s successes and failures as well. Where we find ourselves most at odds is this image you all seem to have of Obama as the anti christ. A Muslim in disguise trying to pull America down. Before you label me an extremist, take a look in the mirror. My views are far more reasonable than yours.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            kinectic__your right on one point, I do think Obama is a Muslim, but I never said he was the Anti-Christ.

          • Kinetic1

            Please not that I did not use quotation. I generalized due to the broad spectrum of hatred towards the President displayed on this site. I apologize if I implied that you, in particular had called him the anti christ.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Kinetic apology accepted!

          • Jana

            Kinectic,
            What do you see as Obama’s failings? I would really like to know. You all talk about him like he is a god. Oprah calls him the ‘chosen one’.
            Plus I will reiterate right now with you that I am sure Mr. Obama is a likable man and so is Michelle. It is their policies and ideologies that we don’t like. No, we didn’t like him running all over the world and putting our country down. To me that means its not his country as he not only puts it down to the rest of the world,but he doesn’t respect the Constitution nor does he respect our freedoms.
            Again, you said you see and readily admit to Obama’s failures. Admit a few and let us see your fairness.

          • Kinetic1

            Jana,
            To begin with, don’t try and lump me in with a Y’all. Next, it’s rather funny that you would claim that I speak of Obama as a God in a stream of posts about the greatness of Ronald Reagan. To quote Angel
            “Ronald Reagan _not to be worshipped as a Messiah or God, he was simply a “Gift” from God!”
            Yeah, just try to find one time when I came close to gushing over President Obama like that. As for Obama’s failings, it’s late and I’ve already listed several in a previous post, so I’ll just hit on a few.

            In 2008 polls showed that Americans favored the direction that the Democratic candidate’s health care plan was heading. Once in office, Obama found the Republicans opposing many aspects of the plan supported by the majority, but instead of moving forward, President Obama tried again and again to appease the Republicans, who used this time to chip away at support for reform. When you have the support, you have to move forward.

            Candidate Obama promised transparency. I’m not seeing enough of it. (no pun intended, but …)

            Most of those I know who voted for Obama believed he would never support the Patriot Act. I want to hear, from his own mouth why he let us down.

            I also want to know why he refused to allow investigations into possible crimes committed by the previous administration.

            Enough for now.

          • Jana

            Thank you Kinectic,
            That was a little better response than I thought I would get.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Kinetic 1_ Last post for now I’m off for a shower, some grub and a Lil Glenn Beck, and I know that just fries your cookies!!

        at any rate___you and I are on different pages K, no matter how you slice it__I believe we ALL have a chance to be whatever it is we want to be, either to make millions or be as poor as church mice.
        I don’t think I or ANYONE else should be responsible for putting someone else through college, or seeing to it someone else has a home, when I’m struggling to keep mine!!!!
        I help those less fortunate where I can__I tithe to organizations who I PICK in the amount I can afford. Not my Government!
        I think its wrong, for a political party to use the down trodden as a means for votes, and hide behind the lies that they the Liberal party is that of the working man. phooey!
        I don’t think Unions belong in Government!!!!
        Soros doesn’t belong in Government!
        and I don’t want America to be a NANNY STATE!
        I’m tired of the Guv telling me what to eat, what to drink, where I can smoke, and I’d like to tell YOU and the rest of them, to kiss my butt at main street!!!_ and I’m being nice_

        I want the Guv, to get the h*ll outta of the way and stop these crazy taxes and regulations on business, and give our manufacturing and industry and entrepreneurs some incentives to come back on shore!

        I want the Guv, to stop pussy footing around on our oil, we need jobs__get rid of that moratorium and open up the drilling NOW!

        Obama’s selling us in the tank, and all you liberal parrots can do is blame Bush, bring up a bunch of numbers and dates, that don’t mean a damn thing and it sure as h*ll ain’t creating jobs, is it???!_ Ya just keep, squawking and parroting what ever Obama says, like hes some kind of God!__I don’t like his policies or what he stands for.

        __Now you can take this post back to your boss, along with some of the other posters comments, and discuss your next conservative attack strategy! You guys only think you know how conservatives think _ nuff said

        • JeffH

          You go girl! Nuff said #2!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JeffH,
            did you see today in the paper that they are finally drilling in the Niobara Shale underlying Colorado, Wyoming, And Nebraska?? They have a new process and it could out produce the Gulf of Mexico in FOUR YEARS!!! VERY GOOD NEWS!!! Within ten years it could reduce oil imports by as much as 50%!!!! this was reported today by the AP!!

          • JeffH

            Joe H., no, I hadn’t heard but I will definetly check it out…

          • JeffH

            Joe H., I see they are doing “horizontal” drilling and consider it far more productive and easier on the environment even though it’s 4 times more expensive.

        • Kinetic1

          Please Angel, enjoy your Beck fix. I think he’s either a nut job or a shill for the Religious Right, but I watch him from time to time. It’s no skin off my nose what you want to watch. In fact, you can smoke where you want, so long as your filthy habit does not place other people’s health at risk. You should also eat and drink what you want, though I reserve the right to support our government’s power to stop manufacturers from using poisons in our foods. Hey, I enjoy a hostess cupcake from time to time, but if the USDA finds out that the cream filling can cause cancer, I think they have a responsibility to put a stop to it.

          I don’t feel like going through the rest line by line. Suffice it to say that I want the best for all my neighbors in the USA and I’m willing to pay my share (and we do). I also want to know that all children will receive the best education possible, not just the children of the wealthy. Maybe that’s too much to ask, but I can’t accept anything less.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Kinectic< your words "though I reserve the right to support our government’s power to stop manufacturers from using poisons in our foods.

            My words, then your lib friends, to stop MONSANTO'S Genectically Modified seed Company!__Thats our food too!

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Kenectic__your words< "I also want to know that all children will receive the best education possible, not just the children of the wealthy.

            They use to get a good education, until the NEA got in there and started revising history!
            Kids use to get good education until teachers got tenure and the schools are forced to keep and pay for less than "up to standard" teachers and Who are video taped making a mockery of the system!
            The teachers that are only in for the union wage, are giving the decent ones a bad name!_-get the union the h*ll outta it!
            The bottoms gonna drop outta everything, if these wages and prices don't start comin down, THE SKY IS NOT THE LIMIT WITH OUR WALLETS!

          • eddie47d

            Angel; What the heck does Monsanto have to do with liberals? You are one confused woman!

        • Kinetic1

          Angel,
          I have one last thing to add. In high school, my German teacher told us how the schools in Germany tested her in what would be the equivalent of our 9th or 10th grade. Those who did well were allowed to continue their education through University. Those who did not show an aptitude for learning were directed to choose a trade to study. I have often thought about that, and given that recent studies show that as many as 36% of college graduates show no significant improvement in the key measures of critical thinking, complex reasoning and writing, I’m not so sure that we shouldn’t embrace a similar system.

          • libertytrain

            we pretty much had that system, then it became “uncool” to be a tradesman and everyone had to go to college. Another foolish progressive mistake.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Kinectic, its time to go home now, get yer lunch box and time card and __DING Days over, have a nice night!!!

          • Kinetic1

            libertytrain,
            The closest I recall is shop classes in high school, most of which are being lost due to cut backs in our schools. I wouldn’t blame the decline on Progressives though. Studies showed that college graduates earned more than those who did not get a degree, and every parent wants their child to do better than they did. How many wealthy Conservatives do you know who encouraged their kids to become plumbers? Americans just forgot how to respect each other. Watch an old Ozzie and Harriet and you’ll notice that Ozzie calls the man working on his sidewalk “Mr. …” It was ok to be a milk man or a bus driver. If you were an adult, if you worked for a living or had retired, as long as you respected yourself, you deserved respect. Now a bike mechanic or a clerk must just be working their way through school. Of course back then a bike mechanic or a milk man could support a family on what they earned.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            kINECTIC, your words <"kids showing no measure of Critical Thinking"

            H*LL they don't teach kids critical thinking at all anymore, they teach them WHAT TO THINK!_-Thats what happens in progressivism, sorry to burst your bubble Kenetic.

          • Jana

            Angel,
            Not only do they teach them what to think, but what their rights are and if they are crossed, how to sue.

          • eddie47d

            Sorry,Angel;You have become the Ding A Ling!

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            eddie_ nothing else to add so you attack ___F off!!! :)

  • Angel

    Ben Crystal wrote: “Ronald Reagan reminded everyone of their fathers. At least, he reminded them of the fathers they grew up watching on television.” So a phony image – just like what we have now.

    • Bruce D.

      Many of us did have good fathers as probably Ben Crystal did. It might seem phony to someone that did not.

  • Bob S.

    Hey Eric,

    I notice that you said President Reagan was responsible for killing California’s “coveted” college free-tuition system. Have you notice that California has a $23 billion deficit?? When are you folks going to realize that nothing can be provided “free”. And, oh by the way, in case you had not noticed, a college education DOES NOT ensure success or a job in this life…..

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      Well said Bob S!

    • Eric Bischoff

      It didn’t have a deficit then.

      • Jana

        Eric,
        We know that anything for FREE will eventually become a deficit later. As you noted they are in debt now. They are practically bankrupt now. Common sense is common sense.

      • JC

        Hmmm…maybe the deficit was created by all that “free” stuff?
        Wait a minute…that would mean it’s not actually “free” wouldn’t it?
        DUH!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          JC
          But just look at all those illegal a$$holes they helped!!! What’s a little 30 billion deficit when THAT happens??? What a bunch of MAROONS!!!!

        • Bruce D.

          Now that is good logic JC. I enjoyed that post, short and very effective.

          • JC

            Bruce, you and I know how simple it is. Sadly too many people think the government can actually provide things for them. It can’t. The government produces nothing at all of any value whatsoever. It robs Peter to pay Paul and and Paul of course thinks this is a wondeful idea. Paul voted for the Kenyan. ;)

    • Eric Bischoff

      You are right, why pay to educate people when you can pay to incarcerate them later. Then Corporations can make profits for life on their wasted lives. Build more prisons, grow the police state, I get it, it’s the conservative republican and tea party way. Because let’s be honest getting government out of our lives does not include getting rid of the police state does it!

      • Bruce D.

        The reason why there is so much crime is that progressives have instilled in many a sense of entitlement. There wasn’t rampant crime before entitlements. People would work for whatever they could make. The left has instilled in people that if it is not given to them they will steal it. That in some way they are entitled to have what others yours.

        • Eric Bischoff

          Yeah you just keep believing that!

          • Jana

            Eric,
            WE will, but we don’t need your permission to believe it.
            And, to your post below,
            your blood can boil all it wants. You are still wrong.

        • Eric Bischoff

          This one really gets my blood boiling. The entitlement hypocrisy. Blame it on the poor, sick, disabled, unemployed, retired and single parents who are working but need food stamps. You should be ashamed of yourselves for believing these lies.

          When in reality there are many big 400 pound gorillas in the room and entitlement for the poor is not one of them. Corporate welfare as in subsidies to wealthy corporations. Oil and big agra come to mind. And the obscene military/police/prison industrial complex costs. These are the things we should be focused on and then let’s not forget perpetual Wars.

          26 year old vegetable cart vendor Boauzizi set himself on fire on the steps of city hall in Tunisia because he could not bare his coorupt Ben Hali Dictator government oppression and police corruption anymore. He sparked a revolution in the middle east.

          Which side are you on? Dictator Mubarack and Dictator Ben Ali or the poor?

          We gave Mubarack a dictator $2Billion a year in aid and he amassed $70 Billion all the while his people are trying to live on $2/day. Could you do it? Do you still want to harp on poor entitlement?

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Eric, Your words> “This one really gets my blood boiling. The entitlement hypocrisy. Blame it on the poor, sick, disabled, unemployed, retired and single parents who are working but need food stamps. You should be ashamed of yourselves for believing these lies.”
            ___In my Opinion, No one says all of us don’t need a hand up sometimes, but entitlements are not meant to be A WAY OF LIFE!__Medicare and Medicare was already in place for the poor and aged, you liberals sucked the money dry with corruption, just like Haiti. The sick & disabled who can’t pay are a whole different story.__BTW my Mother was turned down for disability, and she was crippled since she was 11. Don’t tell me about the down troddened, I watched her suffer til she was 76,_ she never gave up and neither should anyone else!

            “Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.
            Chinese Proverb

          • Eric Bischoff

            Haiti! you want to bring up Haiti. The country that the americans and the french have completely destroyed and for what for cheap labor for stupid T-shirts! Haiti that has had their democratically elected government overthrown by us multiple times. Haiti a country that used to be able to feed themselves until we forced the IMF and world Banksters on them who forced loans on them and then made them convert their sustainable small farm food economy into a mono culture rice economy which we then wiped out with NAFTA when the Texans dumped their cheap SUBSIDIZED rice on them and wiped them out. Thus the migration to cities, slums et al.. They will survive but no thank to us. That Haiti. And you think this was a liberal idea problem. How about a fascist behavior problem.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Eric, Huff n Puff is calling, your straying too far from the heard. Your constant Babel, doesn’t work here__ and no matter how many times you repeat your rhetoric__IT WILL NOT TURN INTO THE TRUTH!

        • Kinetic1

          Let’s see, President Roosevelt signed the Social Security Act on August 14, 1935. So all those gangster wars that went on before that, those were not a sign of “rampant crime”? You might also note that violent crime really took off during the Nixon years, grew steadily through Ford and Carter’s first year or two, dipped through his third and forth, then took back off during the Reagan years, peaked late in the term of Bush 1 and began it’s rapid and steady decline in the second year of Clinton’s Presidency. I guess it was all those Liberal policies that the right are known for.

      • Aix Sponsa

        Did you ever hear of the frog and the scorpion?

    • Eric Bischoff

      The total cost of sending every single public university undergraduate to college for a year, a group makes up 75 percent of the total college enrollment, was $39.36 billion in 2006– 2007 according to the Council of Higher Education. That’s not an insignificant number, but that’s less than half the cost of the AIG bailout, or the cost of five months in Iraq (in October 2009, . Just put that into consideration when you consider the billions more we are about to pump into Afghanistan, then Pakistan, then Yemen….. We can send our kids to school or we can send them to die. Choose wisely.

      • Aix Sponsa

        WHEN the islamic communities worldwide unite against the infidel, they will control 70% of the known oil. Think about that one.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          AIX, the Libs don’t care such stuff as oil, all they wanna do is make sure Obama looks good, wether its a lie or not!

  • Art@Delaware

    Reagan was without a doubt the greatest Pres. we had in my lifetime and i am 54 yrs old. Even in my younger days when i was a little liberal before i fully matured and realized liberalism doesn”t work i still thought Reagan was a great Pres. Now I am a Constitutional Conservative and proud of it. The lefties on here should go back to their own web sites where they can bash Reagan in peace and i will stay here and praise him.

    • Eric Bischoff

      Sorry buddy it’s not your website just like it’s not your america. You better wise up or this country is doomed and it’ll be your fault. We are all americans and we need to compromise and figure out how to make this work together. United we stand, divided we will fall.

      I am not going to sit by and let ignorant people destroy what’s left of this dream. I want a seat at the table and I want representation and you will have to entertain some of my ideas. Last time I looked we were sort of a free country. The patriot act certainly has set us back.

      A lot of you have fooled yourselves into thinking that the problems are related to the left when the left has never governed in this country. This has always been a right of center conservative government, republican/democrat it does not matter and you can’t admit it because then you’d have to face the fact that you and your conservative ideas are responsible for this mess.

      Obama is not and has never been a progressive and all the name calling will never make it so. He is merely continuing a lot of the Bush policies and Wall St and the Banksters are still screwing us.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        ERIC Obamas not a Progressive his name was on the list of the Socialist party its no longer on the list because he’s no longer in Congress!

        ““Obama’s socialist backing goes back at least to 1996, when he received the
        endorsement of the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) for
        an Illinois state senate seat …. Obama’s stint as a “community organizer” in Chicago
        has gotten some attention, but his relationship with the DSA socialists, who groomed
        and backed him, has been generally ignored.”
        PDF of the 81 Socialist’s in Congress are available on line!!!

      • Bruce D.

        Eric says: “Obama is not and has never been a progressive and all the name calling will never make it so.”
        Try to kepp some reality in your posts Eric. You are going from bad to worst.

      • Eric Bischoff

        That’s right because the two of you wouldn’t know a real progressive idea if it bit you in the arse. You do way too much ass-uming.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          PDF online Eric, All 81 names are on it, can’t run and hide__ya can try and lie to smooth it over!

      • Aix Sponsa

        My my my. Seems like an angry outburst from someone unable to reconcile his individual place in life to the overall society.

  • http://wellington-luxury-homes.com katerina

    We lived on the border of East and West Berlin. We saw people get shot for trying to escape to the west. My family is from Latvia. We were very wealthy land owners and business owners in Latvia so we made Stalin’s hit list. We escaped and were sponsored by a family in Tacoma WA after my family spent 5 years in a refugee camp in Germany. We prayed every day that we would have a President here who would undo what FDR and Stalin did to Latvia.
    Thank you President Reagan, for pushing the east to tear down that wall! That wall is an eery wall. One side, the west is a wall of freedom of expression through graffiti , yet all you have to do is turn to the other side, the east, and see not one sprinkling of paint, no freedom of expression, yet many bullet
    scratches rest as a stark reminder of what happened to anyone who expressed their desire to be free.

    So for me and my family and many Latvians, Reagan was a hero and a brave human being who we are forever grateful for for after all all the material things don’t mean a thing if you do not have the freedom to enjoy them.

  • Raggs

    Reagan was by far the best president this country will ever see.

    It sickens me that obama attempts to wear his shoes.

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      Raggs_OBambi will never where Reagans shoes, his heads too big! :)

      • Raggs

        Yeah I know and I’m glad… It just sickens me that the lame stream media try’s to protray obama as likeness of Reagan.

      • Bob

        saint raygun, was an amiable dunce

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          Yeah Boob, Er Bob, so are you! :0

        • Raggs

          Bob, you must have liked it when that stupid artist protrayed obama as Christ.

        • Vicki

          Bob writes:
          “saint raygun, was an amiable dunce”

          Proof by bald assertion AND 2 ad hominem attacks in the same sentence. Well done. Not very useful but it was artful.

    • Aix Sponsa

      Raggs, I think the cowboy said it best. “Just cause you sprinkle a few daisy seeds on a cow pie, don’t make it no bouquet.”

      • JeffH

        Aix Sponsa, mind if I call you Woodie?

  • Art@Delaware

    this is not ment to be racist but Obama couldn”t even shine Reagans shoes much less wear them.

    • Kinetic1

      Art,
      If you have to lead with “this is not ment to be racist”, it will likely be seen as such.

      • independant thinker

        Perhaps, perhaps not. But, if he had left it off you would have jumped on him “with spiked boots and a pike”.

        • Kinetic1

          i.t.
          A wiser man would have chosen an analogy that did not require a disclaimer. Would I have said anything without the disclaimer? I don’t think so since I do not immediately think of blacks as being the only people who shine shoes, but the disclaimer suggests that Art might think that way. Is Art a racist for not considering this? Not necessarily, but I thought I might point out what he failed to consider. You know, for future reference.

          • Jana

            Yes Kinectic, YOU ARE PERFECT! (in your own mind).

          • Kinetic1

            Far from it Jana, just ask my wife.

          • Jana

            Kinectic,
            Just ask any of us. :)

  • armyvet

    Obama wants to compare himself to Reagon? He, when campaigning wanted to compare himself to Lincoln!! No way. John F Kennedy said, “Ask not what the Country can do for you, but what you can do for your Country.” Ronald Reagon said “the Government is not the solution, the Government is the problem.” These two statements are truth, no matter what your politics are.

    The difference from these two men is Obama’s philosophy is the exact opposite. He says the Government is the solution to all problems, stand back and let it solve all problems. Let the Government do for you, even if you don’t like it. We will tell you about it after it has been signed into law.

    • 45caliber

      You forgot to add, “… and we’ll let you pay for it all as well.”

      • 45caliber

        I may be wrong, but government is the only entity that I know about that can borrow money to spend without my permission and then insist I owe the money to them.

  • JeffH

    President Ronald Reagan’s economic achievements were among the most important of his presidency.
    To appreciate the magnitude of Reagan’s achievement, it is important to recall just how bad the economic situation was in 1980. America was in a recession that year. The national unemployment rate was averaging more than 7 percent, yet, inflation remained dangerously high. The consumer price index was 12.4 percent higher than a year earlier. Inflationary expectations, combined with monetary tightening by the Federal Reserve, caused interest rates to hit the highest levels in U.S. history. The prime rate went above 20 percent at mid-year and was still above 15 percent when Reagan took the oath of office.

    Jimmy Carter was totally baffled by the combination of economic evils.
    By 1986 the U.S. inflation rate was down to just 1.1 percent and real gross domestic product was rising at a healthy pace. The unemployment rate and interest rates were still stubbornly high, but on a downward trend. Although the U.S. economy had suffered a sharp recession from July 1981 to November 1982, it was far less severe than most economists expected, given the drop in inflation.

    To Reagan’s credit, he never wavered from his commitment to end inflation, even during the darkest days of the recession in 1982, when his party was suffering huge losses at the polls resulting from the economic slowdown. He remained steadfast because he was certain of the outcome and because the stakes were so high. Reagan firmly believed that the Soviet Union’s tottering economy was being kept afloat only by skyrocketing prices for its export commodities, such as oil and gold. Thus, stopping inflation was central not only to the health of the domestic economy, but to the defeat of communism as well.

    President Reagan also believed, rightly, that increasing the production of goods and services was another key to ending inflation.
    He pushed for lower tax rates to encourage work and investment, promoted free trade and deregulation to foster competition and resisted political pressure for government intervention in areas such as corporate takeovers.

    Along with with Margaret Thatcher, he restored the idea that private individuals and businesses were the true sources of prosperity, not government. They gave legitimacy to free markets, open trade and sound money, in contrast to socialism, planning and price controls, which had dominated economic policy throughout the world for more than half a century. The renaissance of growth and freedom in Eastern Europe and the Third World owes much to Reagan’s and Thatcher’s discrediting of the socialist idea and their tireless defense of economic freedom.

    It is sad that President Reagan was not able to fully comprehend the magnitude of his own achievements in his last years, or even to enjoy the grudging respect of his enemies. I expect his stature will grow in future years as historians put Reagan’s accomplishments into context. In the end, I believe they will conclude that he was among the world’s greatest leaders, someone who changed the course of history for the better.

    Critics of Reagan’s policies will continue to point to his budget deficits in the as the price of his success. But given the magnitude of Reagan’s accomplishments in stopping inflation and bringing about the collapse of the Soviet Union, I don’t think his failure in this area should be held against him.

    I also believe that is why some of the Democrats on the left and the POTUS are focusing on becoming more “Reagan-esque”. Don’t be fooled into becoming a fool.

    A leopard cannot change it’s spots and the Marxist in charge told everyone on national TV that he hasn’t “changed his spots” either.

    • JeffH

      Today, what would Mr. Reagan do? He would appeal for the liberation of women in the Muslim world, he would call for the freedom of Sudanese Christians from slavery and genocide, he would demand that the brainwashing of Palestinian and Iraqi youth to become suicide bombers be stopped. He would also launch a strategic energy initiative to liberate the United States from its worst chemical dependency – Middle Eastern oil.

      Ronald Reagan promoted freedom, upholding the American example of the shining city on the hill. We cannot do less.
      http://www.heritage.org/Research/Commentary/2004/06/Achievements

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Keep Posting JeffH__Its awesome!!!

      • 45caliber

        I believe you are correct about what he would have done today. And it is sad that we don’t seem to have anyone in either party who can step up to fill his shoes.

    • Eric Bischoff

      Jeff you obviously have your rosy coolored glasses on for Reagan.

      How then do you explain these facts which seem to fly in the face or your version?

      When Reagan came into office
      We were the largest manufacturer in the world
      We imported raw materials
      and exported finished goods
      We were the largest creditor in the world
      Everyone borrowed money from us
      We had no trade deficit
      25% of our nation’s labor force was unionized which means,
      50% of our labor force had a job where a single worker
      could raise a family, buy a home, a car and send kids to college.

      30 years later, in just 3 decades

      After lowering taxes for the rich
      After massive Deregulation
      after craming free trade down everyone’s throats

      We are the largest debtor in the world
      We have the largest deficit in the world
      We are the largest importer of finished goods
      We are the largest exporter of raw materials
      Our citizens are less educated, sick and broke
      We have high unemployment
      and it now takes 2 workers to try and raise a family
      People who have worked their whole life
      have seen their retirement savings wiped out.
      We are the world’s largest 3rd world nation
      We’re embroiled in war after war
      and we’ve so angered so many people that
      they are willing to commit suicide to get back at us.

      Knowing this, do you still love Reagan and trickle down economics and free trade?
      Do you still want to have Republicans and Neocons to regain power and apply their stupid destructive policies that only make the already rich richer?

      Reagan’s foreign policies and his ridiculous and discredited trickle down economics have brought us to today.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Hey Eric_) stop trying to out post JeffH, it makes ya looks stupid and is annoying to those of us who enjoy his posts.___wink ;)

        • Eric Bischoff

          still trying to be an angel. It needs work! It’s a debate isn’t it or do you just want to hear the rattles in your head and nothing else.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Eric You can call me anything ya want,I can take it__ but it’s so obvious that your trying to out post jeff___And most of us know looooooong post DOESN’T MEAN YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKINFG ABOUT!!!
            I’M JUST SAYIN……… ;)

        • Eric Bischoff

          But a more important question is:

          Can you disprove anything I have brought forth about Reagan?

          Have you really read anything I have posted?

          Can you comprehend any of it?

          Is it too upsetting for you?

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Eric, Eric__Really I’m not that enthusiastic over you, I like yanking your chain!

          • Jana

            Angel,
            I have noticed something about Eric B.
            He likes to talk and rant and talk and rant. We all know him by his super long posts. I remember another man named Hitler that ranted and talked and ranted and talked, and he was known for his super long speeches too.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Jana, thats what I think too,!WOW! like I said ___
            A Long Post, Does not nessasarily, a good post make!
            I’d rather read much info in a short post, than a long one, cuz I bore easily__lol

      • 45caliber

        And exactly what problems do we have today that aren’t the fault of Clinton, Bush, or Oblama? I don’t recognize any. So why blame them on Reagon? We put people into office to solve problems – but it seems that most seem to feel that they need to create more problems of their own to get fame.

        • Eric Bischoff

          Read the facts and explain yourself. You and your thinking is responsible for this mess. You have a lot of explaining to do.

          Which part of he started these policies do you not understand?

          When Reagan came into office
          We were the largest manufacturer in the world
          We imported raw materials
          and exported finished goods
          We were the largest creditor in the world
          Everyone borrowed money from us
          We had no trade deficit
          25% of our nation’s labor force was unionized which means,
          50% of our labor force had a job where a single worker
          could raise a family, buy a home, a car and send kids to college.

          30 years later, in just 3 decades

          After lowering taxes for the rich
          After massive Deregulation
          after craming free trade down everyone’s throats

          We are the largest debtor in the world
          We have the largest deficit in the world
          We are the largest importer of finished goods
          We are the largest exporter of raw materials
          Our citizens are less educated, sick and broke
          We have high unemployment
          and it now takes 2 workers to try and raise a family
          People who have worked their whole life
          have seen their retirement savings wiped out.
          We are the world’s largest 3rd world nation
          We’re embroiled in war after war
          and we’ve so angered so many people that
          they are willing to commit suicide to get back at us.

          • Aix Sponsa

            Eric, since the stock market is down 80% since 1999 (based on gold value, not fiat money), while controlled by a socialistic congress, whose fault is that?

          • Aix Sponsa

            So it is OUR fault that muslims are suicide bombers? LOL…. you take the cake Eric.

      • Eric Bischoff

        Put your money where your mouth is.

        Are you just going to ignore the facts and just paint a flowery picture like that’s what really happened?

        Do you have an explanation for what’s happened and how we got here?

        I know many of you believe in the definition of Insanity. Doing the same thing over and over and expect different results.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          Hey Eric, Obamas the only President I know of, that continously blames the previous Administration for all of the US problems. The Bush smear was designed to make a virtual unknown senator (soros pick), Obama look good coming in as President. That way when Obama did screw up, he didn’t look like he didn’t know what he was doing and had someone else to blame for it_ YAY its ALL BUSHES FAULT!

        • chuckb

          DO NOT APOLOGIZE FOR SENDING THIS BECAUSE ALL OF IT IS TRUE.

          If George W. Bush had doubled the national debt, which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have approved?

          If George W.. Bush had then proposed to double the debt again within 10 years, would you have approved?

          If George W. Bush had criticized a state law that he admitted he never even read, would you think that he is just an ignorant hot head?

          If George W. Bush joined the country of Mexico and sued a state in the United States to force that state to continue to allow illegal immigration, would you question his patriotism and wonder who’s side he was on?

          If George Bush had pronounced the Marine Corps like Marine ‘Corpse’ would you think him an idiot?

          If George W. Bush had put 87,000 workers out of work by arbitrarily placing a moratorium on offshore oil drilling on companies that have one of the best safety records of any industry because one company had an accident would you have agreed?

          If George W. Bush had used a forged document as the basis of the moratorium that would render 87,000 American workers unemployed would you support him?

          If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a TelePrompTer installed to be able to get through a press conference,would you have laughed and said this is more proof of how inept he is on his own and is really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?

          If George W. Bush had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to take Laura Bush to a play in NYC, would you have approved?

          If George W. Bush had reduced your retirement plan’s holdings of GM stock by 90%and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have approved?

          If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special Olympics, would you have approved?

          If George W. Bush had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful and historically significant gift, would you have approved?

          If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod containing videos of his speeches, would you have thought this embarrassingly narcissistic and tacky?

          If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia, would you have approved?

          If George W.. Bush had visited Austria and made reference to the nonexistent “Austrian language,” would you have brushed it off as a minor slip?

          If George W. Bush had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with people who cannot seem to keep current in their income taxes, would you have approved?

          If George W. Bush had stated that there were 57 states in the United States , would you have said that he is clueless.

          If George W. Bush would have flown all the way to Denmark to make a five minute speech about how the Olympics would benefit him walking out his front door in Texas , would you have thought he was a self important, conceited, egotistical jerk.

          If George W. Bush had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to “Cinco de Cuatro” in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the 5th of May (Cinco de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, would you have winced in embarrassment?

          If George W. Bush had misspelled the word “advice” would you have hammered him for it for years like Dan Quayle and potatoes as proof of what a dunce he is?

          If George W. Bush had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a single tree on Earth Day, would you have concluded he’s a hypocrite?

          If George W. Bush’s administration had okayed Air Force One flying low over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan causing widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they actually get what happened on 9-11?

          If George W.. Bush had failed to send relief aid to flood victims throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made homeless than in New Orleans, would you want it made into a major ongoing political issue with claims of racism and incompetence?

          If George W. Bush had created the position of 32 Czars who report directly to him, bypassing the House and Senate on much of what is happening in America , would you have approved.

          If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so, would you have approved?

          So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and impressive? Can’t think of anything? Don’t worry. He’s done all this in 21 months — so you’ll have two years to come up with an answer.

          Every statement in this email is factual and directly attributable to Barrack Hussein Obama. Every bumble is a matter of record and completely verifiable.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Well done chuckb!!

          • Eric Bischoff

            Yeah and with enough if’s you could put Paris in a bottle.

            We may not like Obama’s performance but given what the last bunch of crooks did to this country and the sad state of affairs they left this place in, if you can’t differentiate between Bush or Obama or if you think Bush was better than Obama you are clueless.

            I don’t like Obama, I certainly didn’t like the Bushes, I didn’t like Clinton, I am still waiting for a great man/woman to lead this country. There isn’t a worthwhile contender on the list yet. If you elect Palin, I am afraid that’s it. The world is a big place, there are lots of other great places to live. I don’t want to be around mediocrity and stupidity.

            I am sorry but I hold the bar a lot higher than that and as a matter of fact a lot of people in the world expect it of us.

          • Eric Bischoff

            chuckb can have long posts and you approve!
            Bit Hypocritical aren’t you Angel?

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Eric, Yes I am Hypocritical when I wannabe, and I don’t need your permission either!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Eric,
            Is that “There are plenty of other places to live” remark a promise??? I sincerely hope so!!!!

      • JeffH

        Eric the Red says: “Jeff you obviously have your rosy coolored glasses on for Reagan.” Sorry to disappoint Eric the Red, NOPE!

        Jealous Eric the Red? The way I’m looking at it now is… if it pisses you off Eric the Red, then it must be a good thing.

      • Aix Sponsa

        Typical revisionist history. And Eric, you have never actually been to a 3rd world nation, have you?

  • Eric Bischoff

    Our tax rates today are at their lowest point since the 50′s. That and the state of our economy speaks volumes.

    • JC

      You’re right it practically screams…

      YOU CAN’T TAX AND SPEND THE WAY TO PROSPERITY!

      Bail Outs, Stimulus or Monetizing Debt are all just slick terms for

      “WE’RE GOING TO TRASH THE ECONOMY”

      • Eric Bischoff

        Most administrations have run the country this way some more than others. Clinton did balance the budget and hand over a surplus which Bush proceeded to squander. But he can’t even get any respect for that.

        The people who blame this whole mess that took 30 years to develop on Obama are clueless and probably racists. They can’t get past the black man in the white house. They’ll never admit it either.

        Like it or not we were at the edge of the cliff probably much worse that the politicians or the media would want us to know.

        Bailing out our auto industry is a lot more palatable than bailing banksters and Wall St who then stopped loaning, froze the economy, posted record profits and gave themselves obscene bonuses.

        Gutless politicians surround themselves with and hand over the keys to the very people that destroyed the world economy.

        They should be in jail.

        • JC

          “None” of it is palatable and you have this right…they should ALL be in jail. That includes the kenyan.

        • chuckb

          eric b

          clinton never left bush a surplus, he never had one .
          the deficit was almost eliminated in FY2000 (ending in September 2000 with a deficit of “only” $17.9 billion), but it never reached zero–let alone a positive surplus number. And Clinton’s last budget proposal for FY2001, which ended in September 2001, generated a $133.29 billion deficit. The growing deficits started in the year of the last Clinton budget, not in the first year of the Bush administration.

          • JeffH

            chuckb, point taken. Eric the Red clings to the “Clinton balanced budget” myth. Then again, he also clings to the “progressivism” is better ideology too. No surprises there.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Eric,
          That’s an outright LIE about Clintoon leaving a surplus!! Proven FACT!!!

      • bob wire

        Tax and spend to prosperity?

        well? want else do you do with collected revenue?

        and how does prosperity come if no one is spending?

        • JC

          Mr. Wire…I have seen too many of your posts to believe you are actually that stupid.
          It is not up to the government to get people to spend for starters.
          It is criminal of the government to take our money and bail out corporations that should have gone down the tubes in a “real” free market.
          It is criminal of the government to devalue our currency with said bail outs.
          It is criminal of the government to allow a private corporation to print money at will and thus manipulate the value of all we do.

          Shall I go on…and on…and on…or do you see where I’m going with this?

    • Vicki

      Eric Bischoff says:
      “Our tax rates today are at their lowest point since the 50′s. That and the state of our economy speaks volumes.”

      Where to begin. :) Co-relation does not equal causation.

      And what is sad is the “fact” presented to try and convince us of a causation is false. Well it might be false. There is no “tax rates”. There are tax rates. Several. Absent more data the truth of the “fact” is indeterminate. As such it is useless as a fact.

      For amusement let us however look at the marginal income tax rates from 1950-2011

      Highest 1952 with a 92% rate. (top bracket.)
      Lowest 1988 28% rate (Thanks President Reagan)

      Well I don’t know about you guys but things went VERY well in the years including and after the lowest rate.

      Then the rates started up under several Democrat (and RINO) administrations. Then things got really bad after the rates went over 39%.

      Then came the “evil” bush tax cuts and things got better for a while inspite of the war on terror.

      So Eric if you wish to claim causation I am happy to accept the lower tax rates. Much lower. And soon please. 35% is way to high.

      http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html

  • Palin12

    February presidential birthdays:
    Ronald Reagan…Feb.6….40th
    Abe Lincoln…..Feb.12…16th
    Geo. Washington.Feb.22…1st
    Sarah Palin…..Feb.11…45th…tomorrow! Happy Bday Sarah!!!

    • Jana

      Yeaaaaaaa,

      HAPPY BIRTHDAY SARAH.!!!

      • JeffH

        …I’ll 2nd that…Happy 45th Sarah.

    • Raggs

      Hey so what is obamas BD?

      Nobody knows!…

      • Palin12

        sometime in August, allegedly.

      • chuckb

        might be april 1st, fitting.

        • Raggs

          :)

  • armyvet

    When Eric mentioned a President surrounding himself with thieves (Czars?) and other crooks, I thought he was talking about Obama!

  • http://com i41

    Bob at 11:58. Reagan didn’t endanger the hostages it was Nuts Carter, The hostages were released durning his inaguration, he scared the hell out of those pedophile goat abusers. Pervert don’t have much back bone just look at the marxist muslim moron in the WH. You post like a true Soros Socialist puke!chuchb, great post. Eric B, are just a f–king moron or actually cann’t read,our tax rates are the lowest because every is out of work and our economy sure des speak volumes, the stimulas didn’t work, Onumnutts job creation czar took 135 billion of stimulas taxpayers money and went to China to create jobs over there, what is that braindead socialist going to do take the rest of the stimulas and go to Russia? This crossbred marxist muslim moron gave hs union thugs and Wall Street corrupt rump buds. His close buds consists of tax cheater , domestic terrorists, anti-Americans like hiim, has close ties to Soros and the Soros Socialist Democrats, said he was a muslim and would back the muslims if push came to shove, is still trying to take over all private owned property, and plans on destroying the USA. The reason we don’t produce anything is the massive amount of regulations and taxes, we are the world highest, business have the largest amount of regulation and the largest force of government smucks of any country in the world. Even China and Russia are lower, we have too many redundant agencies. Any sorry freak that finds this jug eared purple lipped jackass a dream person is either a union moron and a demcrat. He sure is a ouT of touch with reality socialist azz. Everyone knew he was a marxist alinski loving socialist communist by his own words.

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      !41___WHEW!_ HOT D*MN, You tellem” Bubba!!!

  • JeffH

    Progressivism: Philosophy of Evil
    Masquerading as the savior of humanity, in reality all socialism, whether labeled socialism, Nazism, fascism, communism, or progressivism is the very essence of evil.

    “Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places”.
    Ephesians 6:11, 12

    When Ronald Reagan labeled the Soviet Union as the “Evil Empire”, the progressives went nuts. When George Bush called Iran, Iraq and North Korea “The Axis of Evil” they went nuts again. Progressivism, the Americanized version of European and Asian socialism, is made up mostly of hard-core socialists and secular humanists. Progressivism does not recognize the concept of evil. It believes in the perfectibility of human nature and the promise of utopia here on earth to be brought about by the enlightened, benevolent hand of government.

    For those unfortunate enough to live under one of the forms of socialism, life consists of misery, oppression and deprivation. Considering the consistent failure of socialism during its hundred and fifty year history, it is difficult to understand how any sane person could voluntarily choose it as the preferred systems of government and economics.

    Socialism is never presented as “socialism”. In fact, the most ardent supporters of socialist policies(like Eric the Red)are offended when someone identifies them as socialists. In America, socialism is sold under the pseudonyms of “liberalism” or “progressivism”. For that reason, most people who support socialist policies do so without knowing they are embracing socialism. The essence of socialism is deception.

    At first, it appears that socialist policies are motivated by the highest of human ideals, compassion, concern, caring, sympathy, etc. Socialists’ appeals are made on behalf of the poor, the children, the disenfranchised, and those who have been unfortunate in life’s lottery.

    The reality is that socialism appeals to the basest of human flaws: jealousy, hatred, greed and envy. The progressives’ most potent weapon against capitalism is class envy and jealousy, they perfected the technique of demonizing “big business”.

    Socialism in America is represented by the progressives in and out of government, primarily in the Democratic Party but extant in the Republican Party as well, only to a lesser degree. The true “Axis of Evil” in America, that threatens to destroy the most successful system of government in world history are the progressive politicians, public sector unions, and federal bureaucracies.
    http://illinoisconservative.wordpress.com/2010/03/12/progressivism-philosophy-of-evil/

    • Vicki

      JeffH writes:
      “Considering the consistent failure of socialism during its hundred and fifty year history, it is difficult to understand how any sane person could voluntarily choose it as the preferred systems of government and economics.”

      I have not found any evidence that sane people anywhere have voluntarily chosen socialism. Every government I have found that is socialist uses the power of government to FORCE sane people to live under socialism.

      Even the nice folk here who espouse socialism only do so until the government comes and takes all they own. For the greater good of course.

      • Karolyn

        the only reason socialism doesn’t work is because of the way people are raised in society. We are raised to think it’s all about ME. It is a very unfortunate fact.

        • Vicki

          Karolyn says:
          “the only reason socialism doesn’t work is because of the way people are raised in society. We are raised to think it’s all about ME.”

          You may have been raised to think it is all about you but that is not true for many of us. Now how would you raise YOUR children so that a small group of people (the government) could own and control the means of production and distribution.

          When your children reach their teens and rebel against parental mandates they will realize their slave status to this government of yours. How do you intend to convince them to accept their slavery?

        • http://?? Joe H.

          karolyn,
          you missed one other big reason, That is that we were born to be free!!!! If you want to live in a repressed society, then do so, just not HERE!!!

        • JeffH

          K, sorry to tell you this, but my folks didn’t raise me that way either. I see some of the “now” generation is focused on themselves, but not my generation. I think it’s more of a “progressive” thing…just my opinion of course.

      • Jana

        Karolyn,
        That is what is called HUMAN NATURE.

    • Bruce D.

      JeffH, another outstanding post. It has a lot of insight and worded well.

    • Bruce D.

      I would like to e-mail your post JeffH to a few people. You should repost it again in the future. It is the last post and maybe not read by everyone. Some people just really do not understand the harmful effects of socialism and the degeneration of society that follows it.

    • Raggs

      obamaism… by definition the turd that sunk the ship.

    • Jana

      Wow JeffH,

      Excellent, excellent post.

  • David

    Reagan started several trends that have devastated this country, from which we may never recover. First, his deficit spending tripled the national debt and made us debtors to our enemies. Second, he turned America into a trade deficit nation, costing us trillions of dollars in deficits and the loss of tens of million Middle Class jobs. Third, his amnesty drew in an additional thirty to fifty million illegal aliens and most of the problems we have today. Fourth, he thought he was above the law and illegally laid off thousands of federal workers who were supposed to be protected by the Civil Service laws. He was deeply involved in the Iran/Contra scandal and other scandals. Fifth, he fled Lebanon with his tail between his legs and illegally armed our enemies. There are others but I don’t have the space…In short, he was one of the worst presidents in American history.

    • JeffH

      David, thanks for straightening things out…and to think that so many like to blame Bush…OMG…it’s been Reagan’s fault all along…ROFLMAO!

      • Vicki

        Wow The power that man, Reagan, had. It’s a wonder he didn’t rule the world though I bet there are liberals somewhere that would say he did :)

        • JeffH

          …or at least say that he tried…

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      David, ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!_Where in the H*ll did he come from?__lol

    • Ted Crawford

      A couple of points david. With regards to the deficit, by Artical1, Section 7 U.S. Constitution, clause 1 “All bills for raising Revenue SHALL originate in the House of Representatives” the Speaker of the House for Reagans entire term was none other than Tip O’Neil (D) Massachusetts!
      As to Amnisty that was Reagans half ot the deal made with the progressives. He promised to grant amnisty to 1.5 million, turned out that as usual the progressives had missreperesented the number it was 3 million, illegals the progressives would help to secure the border. Surprise, surprise they LIED!
      As to the Air Traffic Controllers, they had a no strike clause in their contract. When they went out on strike they put themselves outside the laws and made themselves vulnerable!
      Perhaps you should re-read comrade Alinskys book. You might become as good as kenetic! He is the resident master of Alinsky tactics here.

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