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Feinstein’s Got A Gun!

January 26, 2013 by  

Obama struggles with the oath. McCarthy makes the streets safe for madmen. And: Do crocodiles cry Hillary tears? All this, plus: Can we get back our deposit on the Death Star? Presented in 1080 hi-def, FOR FREE! It’s The Great Eight, from the Personal Liberty Digest™!

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • http://personalliberty Alondra

    “I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States…” – barak hussein aka barry soetoro aka barrack dunham aka barry dunham aka barak mounir ubayd aka Harrison bounel

    Yep, the disgust Thug-in-Chief four times took the Oath to support and defend the Constitution, but never kept his oath. He and DEMONcrats circumcised the Law of Land.

    But Yesterday was a victorious day for Constitution. I would like to send my sincere congratulations to Mark Levin and his team on their yesterday’s VICTORY for Constitution, for Republic and for the Rule of Law.

    The D.C. Federal Court of appeals ruled (3:0) that Usurper’s recess appointments to the National Labor Relations Board in January 2012 violated the Constitution and thus is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

    The Court also raised questions about the Kenyan jungle bunny pick for head of the Consumer Financial Protection Board.

    “Fiat justitia ruat caelum” – “Let justice be done though the heavens fall” Amen

    • http://personalliberty Alondra

      Another Chicago Thug, Rahm Emanuel, blackmails banks and financial institutions in the country:

      “Emanuel reportedly sent letters to the CEOs of Bank of America and TD Bank urging them to STOP LINES OF CREDIT, FINANCING for acquisitions and expansions and financial advising unless they get on board with gun control. Among other things, the former Obama advisor wants gun makers to support criminal background checks on all gun sales.”

      “In the past, the gun industry has stood in opposition to these safety measures. They opposed a ban on assault weapons on America’s streets, opposed a ban on military-style clips, opposed a criminal background check on all gun purchases and opposed any effort to crack down on criminal gun traffickers,” Emanuel wrote.

      From CBS Chicago:
      Last week, Emanuel ordered a portfolio analysis from the five pension and retirement funds for Chicago employees to determine if fund managers hold financial interests in companies that manufacture or sell assault weapons.

      This week, the Chicago Municipal Employees Annuity and Benefit Fund (MEABF) board voted to divest more than $1 million from three companies that manufacture assault weapons – Freedom Group, Smith and Wesson and Sturm Ruger.

      The Smith & Wesson produces AR-15 rifles and has a $60 million credit line with TD Bank.

      • Robert Smith

        Just picked this up from CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/26/us/colorado-fetus-lawsuit/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

        ??????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        I’ll bet it will make an interesting thread.

        Rob

      • Robert Smith

        “Among other things, the former Obama advisor wants gun makers to support criminal background checks on all gun sales.””

        Wow! What a concept… Criminals not being able to buy guns from gun stores.

        Rob

      • FreedomFighter

        Rob take a convicted felon into a gun store with you — see how far you get. Hope they dont hurt you during the arrest.

        The 2nd ammendment is to protect the American people from:

        “Democrat strategist Steven Rattner: “WE need death panels. Well, maybe not death panels, exactly, but unless we start allocating health care resources more prudently — rationing, by its proper name — the exploding cost of Medicare will swamp the federal budget.”

        30 Population Control Quotes That Show That The Elite Truly Believe That Humans Are A Plague Upon The Earth

        Read more at http://investmentwatchblog.com/30-population-control-quotes-that-show-that-the-elite-truly-believe-that-humans-are-a-plague-upon-the-earth/#6Kdv2ZLvJ7h8ew6s.99

      • Robert Smith

        Yes Freedom… I also saw the book “Population Explosion” from the former Bush advisor.

        So, clearly both sides are aware that the planet can only sustain so many people.

        Why does that right wing god keep “blessing” people with so many babies?

        Doesn’t make any sense to me.

        Rob

      • Warrior

        And ILL now has the dupious distinction of having the “worst” credit rating of all 50 states. Thank you all “progressives rulers” of ILL. Given enough time, I’m sure you can produce the same results for the entire country. There is no redeeming quality of “progressivism”, only despair leading ultimately to “destruction”. Psst, time to take their guns, I think they’re on to our ruse!

      • eddie47d

        Yes Rob its nice of the Catholic Church to take both sides of the same issue depending in how it favors them at the moment. Must get confusing in the court room.

      • Bill

        Good comment, Warrior
        Again, your insight is refreshing. I just cannot understand why the progrssives chose poverty over prosperity. For them it is just prosperity for the elite and control of the masses.

      • CZ52

        “Wow! What a concept… Criminals not being able to buy guns from gun stores.”

        Useless comment and a waste of space. It is already illegal for criminals to purchase a gun from a gun store (or even handle one) and the gun store HAS to run a background check on purchases.

      • JUKEBOX

        Bank of America has also frozen the bank accounts of some gun manufacturers, which I believe is a flagrant violation of the law. Also, GEICO has cancelled auto liability coverage on another gun manufacturer. These companies need to be punished by gun owners withdrawing all of their business from them, and telling them why.

      • Robert Smith

        From Bill: “I just cannot understand why the progrssives chose poverty over prosperity. ”

        Your “understanding” isn’t required. The fact is that “austarity” doesn’t work.

        Remember Forbes? Check out: http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/04/25/british-economic-austerity-bombs-as-england-double-dips-into-recession/

        “Since the moment English Prime Minister David Cameron instituted his government austerity program in the belief that taking huge sums of money out of the British economy would get England back on more solid financial footing, American conservative leaders have been fawning all over their Conservative Party counterparts—if not the actual nation that the British Conservatives lead.

        Today, the report card is in and the results are clear—the GOP has been backing the wrong horse…again.”

        Rob

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Robert Smith @ 7:35 am
        What surprise, O’Homobama’s media attacking Catholic Church!

        Why CNN is bringing the 5 years-old incident right now?
        Because the Chicagoan Thug is a King of Revenge.

        Wasn’t your CRIMINAL puppet’s campaign centered on the LIES, DECEITS and Revenge?

        youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=a5urR_mTTcY

        The CC and other religious and not religious institutions filed lawsuit against the Thug’s “obamaCare” UNCONSTITUTIONAL mandate.

        The CC is against same-sex “marriage”. It adds more fuel to his revengeful fire.
        The CC is against abortions. It adds more fuel to his revengeful fire.

        “We’re gonna punish OUR ENEMIES and reward OUR FRIENDS who stand with us on ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO US.” – the CRIMINAL O’Homobama, Interview with the Univision Radio, October 2010

        Please note: The Faggot says: “the issues that are IMPORTANT TO US”. His “us” means: Us=Myself+my thugs+my perverted buddies faggots, and not the issues THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO AMERICA PEOPLE.

        Robert Smith, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try again.
        “Trying is the first step towards failure.” – Homer Simpson

        P.S. I do not care about hypocritical and heretic CC. I do care that your FAGGOT disdain and circumcises CONSTITUTION – the Law of this Land.

        Best wishes,
        LiberalGIST Alondra, Proud Naturalized American, Un-Apologetic Christian Bigot, the Tea Party Lover (in any sense), definite Homophobe & Islamophobe, the PC snubber and the Hater of the VOLUNTARY Stupidity

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Robert Smith @7:36 am

        Wow!!! Are you ignorant, Rob, or stupid? Any way – both are shockingly awful.

        Please tell me: When and where criminals are buying guns legally in stores?

        Last year in Chicago were committed 536 homicides by firearms. None was legally owned.

        Rob, I guess you are a big boy and it surprises me that you did not learn yet that life is one crushing defeat after another.

        As always your left-wing buzzing is lack of reasoning.

        Regards,
        Alondra, Right-winger and Tea Party lover

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Robert Smith @8:18 am

        “The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God.” (Psalm 14:1; Psalm 53:1)

        “Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all[b] the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Then God BLESSED THEM, AND GOD SAID TO THEM, “BE FRUITFUL AND MULTIPLY; FILL THE EARTH AND SUBDUE IT; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” (Genesis 1:26-28)

        “Wickedness proceeds from the wicked.” (I Samuel 24:13)

        So Let’s start the Population Control with the godless O’Homobama and his followers.

        Robert, Ron White said: “You Can’t Fix Stupid. Stupid is forever”.
        I am TOTALLY agree with him.

        Alondra, Right-Wenger Un-Apologetic Christian Bigot and the Tea Party Lover

      • Matrix

        Robert Smith states;

        “Why does that right wing god keep “blessing” people with so many babies?

        Doesn’t make any sense to me.”

        Robert you ignorant fool, blaming God for the liberal’s injustice!

        It is the liberal that promotes the poor and the ignorant to multiply like rats by providing cash for each baby the spawn of scum produces!

        Every spawn is a vote for the dark one and creates the horror we now call America.
        Its sad that the average working American is having less children than ever before, as trash such as you and yours multiply like roaches.

        Don’t blame God for Satan’s disease to humanity, for it is you Robert and we know that nothing makes sense to the ignorant evil of society!

      • Robert Smith

        Hey Matrix, appreciate your opinion, but I gotta go with what the candidates from the extreme right say. Remember: “U.S. Senate candidate Richard Mourdock, who said that pregnancy from rape was “something that God intended”,

        BTW, the “welfare queen” popping out babies for cash is a myth. If it were true Octimom would be worth millions instead of doing porn (and failing at that too).

        Rob

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Gun grabbers not unlike all predators when they cannot get the prey in a straghtforward way sneak around and try to find the weakest prey and they usually find it. For the gun grabbers they found the weakest link and it is the law that is why they keep proposing these measures to gun grab or ammo grab or freezing bank accounts, or magazine grab, etc..

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Bill, the supposed progressives cannot produce or create anything of value but out of their envy and jealousy they will proverbially “fill the wells” of the producers or creaters by government intervention be it by regulations, decrees or anything their devious little minds can come up with.

      • sam1966

        Here is something that describes what the 5th column is doing to our Christian values:

        http://www.barna.org/culture-articles/600-most-americans-are-concerned-about-restrictions-in-religious-freedom

        If things keep going down this current path, we will lose all our religious freedom and our Christian founding. Sheesh Rob! SSDD, eh Rob? There are not too many people on this planet, but we just need to use things more wisely and find new sources to support our growing population. Abortion is not one. Murder is never a choice. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Rob out.

        “The Americans are the first people whom Heaven has favored with an opportunity for deliberating upon and choosing the forms of government under which they should live.”

        John Jay

        *In other words, blessed by God.

    • nc

      Alondra, you can send your best wishes to the “Chicago Thug” but he is not in Chicago anymore! Address it to the White House, Washington, DC. You don’t need to rush! He’ll be there for FOUR MORE YEARS.

      • Bill

        The next four years will give the progressives the time they need to move us closer to the policies of Greece and Spain.

        No wonder they want to take away the guns. The public sector workers with their higher than market perks and benefits will be the first ones to get hit. At least they won’t have any guns to riot with

      • ibcamn

        you can still send it there,Obama still has henchmen working hard there yet!in fact i think there are like six(or is it four)city blocks devoted to helping the forces of evil!(where the hell are the avengers when you need them?………ah,just looked,it’s eight city blocks and six blocks worth of water front!(and a few scattered city buildings!!)

      • Dennis48e

        nc the last I heard Rahm Emanuel had gone back to Chicago and gotten himself elected mayor.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Hi Nut Case. The Fraud O’Liar’s criminal roots and mentors are in Chicago. His house still there. Why he does not sell it?

        “He’ll be there for FOUR MORE YEARS.”
        Well, that we will see.

        “Fiat justitia ruat caelum” – “Let justice be done though the heavens fall”

        P.S. He, who laughs last, laughs best.

        Nut Case a.k.a. No Clue, Stay Tuned.

        “Great is TRUTH, and mighty above all things.” 2Ezdra 4:41

      • JUKEBOX

        He’s probably afraid to go back to Chicago, even though that is where his residence allegedly is. I don’t believe he has been back to this house over twice in the past four years, preferring to waste as much of the taxpayer’s money by going on vacation in Hawaii or his native Kenya.

      • Hedgehog

        nc, are you absolutely sure of that? Your crystal ball is that good? Obama absolutely, positively won’t be impeached? Air Force One won’t crash with him aboard? No one will assassinate him? He won’t die of natural causes? Boy, I bet the people who hold his life insurance policies are so relieved by your ex cathedra pronouncement!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You speak the truth for a change, the “Chicago Thug” is in the White House. But the worse is that the rest of the thugs across the country, be they male or female, have their tongues hanging out following him like a pack of wolves.

      • sam1966

        Are you sure no cajones? Here is something showing how someone found Obama bin Laden’s SSN# is a fake:

        http://www.westernjournalism.com/busted-1940-census-confirms-obama-alias-born-in-1890/

        Are you sure he’ll make it the next 4 years? We hope not. I want to see this nation get back to the ways our Christian founding fathers set us out to be, not the nonsense that is going on now. If you want the first one, you are a patriot. If you want the second, then you are the 5th column. I’ll bet I know which one you have already chosen. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

        “The birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior.”

        John Quincy Adams

    • Sarah

      Alondra. OK, you’re on top of current events. So what will happen? They will just move these men around to different positions until the populace forgets about it and then put them back.

      Hillary is taking responsibility for Benghazi, not. On the one hand she is responsible, but wait, someone somewhere didn’t send her the memo emails on Stevens asking for backup so it was someone else’s fault. So what will happen? She’ll be our next president.

      This administration is sending sixteen fighter jets and twenty tanks to Morsi. I would imagine they are doing this so that the Muslim Brotherhood will annihilate Israel and then the US. But our moneygrabbing top feeders will be there to create the new New World Order.

      My question. WHO AND WHEN is someone going to really, really do something about all this instead of giving lip service and making everything look good to the public?

      • eddie47d

        Sarah; Its time for most of these countries to fend for themselves and our $4 billion a year to both Egypt and Israel hasn’t done much more than arm the hawks of those countries. When we arm the hawks of any country they want to use that weaponry and then we feel obligated to involve ourselves further. Its that continuous circular firing squad we can’t seem to get out from under that is irritating.What are we getting in return for all this welfare we keep giving out to them?

      • JimboNC

        With cowardly Repubs crying in the corner, seems there are no heros anywhere willing to clean up the mess. Prayerfully, PRAYERFULLY we wait for salvation. The Founding Fathers would be outraged seeing scum appointing thugs to federal departments. The real problem is: we have to go by the Constitution and Laws of the Land while the enemy ignores them. Only when we realize we are not being UNCONSTITUTIONAL when we bend those laws saving the Nation will the populace wake up.

      • Mary

        Obviously Bush and C. Rice got the memos on 911 and ignored them and thousands were killed in our own country and Bush was re-elected. Don’t be a hypocrite. The memos that Clinton did not apparently see just expressed a need for more security, not a possible plot to attack the Embassy which was a surprise with no warning. Stop with all the crap. Four Americans were killed and it does not matter which terrorist group did it. What matters is making it safer for our Diplomats who are serving in foreign countries or bring them home. Congress is not without responsibility as they refused to increase the spending to give more security to these Embassies. Their is a lot of blame to go around. Clinton is only taking responsibility because this happened on her watch and she is the Sec. of State. I never heard Bush or Rice say they took responsibility. There is the difference between true leaders. They will admit when they screwed up even if they were not aware of the problem. They know they should have been. It is almost impossible to protect our American citizens. We cannot be expected to always keep those in foreign countries safe. It is the job of Diplomats to mingle with the people and promote good will. They are not military personnel there as a show of force. If Diplomat Stevens felt that his life was immediately in danger, he could have left the country at any time.

      • Robert Smith

        Mary says: “Four Americans were killed and it does not matter which terrorist group did it. ”

        Yup, because no matter who did the killing Mary is gonna blame Clinton or Obama.

        Sheeesh, what’s next, blaming Linclon for having put his head at the end of John’s gun?

        Get it: It’s terrorists. We need to be fighiting them, not fending off attacks from the extreme right. The right isn’t the majority of Americans. They lost the election. Get over it and let’s move on with business.

        Rob

      • Donna Jackson

        I so wish that someone would stand up and say “no more.”

      • Nadzieja Batki

        JimboNC, did you have to come to this site to let the people know that you are an additional fool who exists and is the follower of the Chigago Thug in the WH.Why should that matter as O and his pack heads will give you marching orders and do your “thinking” for you.

      • Robert Smith

        As the right wing does the Rush Limbo going lower and lower.

        Rob

      • sam1966

        Sorry Jimbo, but there are heroes and great Americans out there that want to turn this country around. They just can’t seem to run for office or get elected. Maybe because they are not with the status quo groups (Bilderbergs, Illuminati, Soros, CFR, or satanists/atheists), deemed too radical (Like going only by the Constitution, but not breaking or bending it.), don’t any any ploitical connections or any wackos supporting them (Michael Moore, Farrakhan, FFRF, Rosanne Barr, etc.), and are Christian (Forbid it Almighty God to have a believer in the true God and His Son Jesus in office). Hey Rob, what about Michael Moore, George Soros, Harry “Woody Allen” Reid, Pelosi, Boxer, Waters, Feinstein, and many more traitors and cowards on your side? Just go back to playing with your acorns and listening to that heretic Bishop Spong. Here is something that deals with you 5th coulmn types:

        http://www.westernjournalism.com/a-liberal-history-of-union-thuggery-and-civil-rights-perversion/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “To the distinguished character of patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian.”

        George Washington

    • mark

      Yeah, but he’s still President of the United States while you are an insignificant on-line crank. He’s making history and running our country while you’re posting on this cult website.

      • JimH

        Hi mark, You mis-spelled ruining.

      • Bill

        Mark,
        You are a good example of the dumbing down of America

      • TIME

        Dear mark,

        Lower case name, WOW ~ that reveals a lot about you, do you know that?

        It clearly expresses ~ not only how you see yourself, ~ but also, how little respect you have for others, { as you don’t respect yourself.} Yet ~ you wish to regale us with your lacking intelect anyway?

        Really, why is that again?.

        Yes indeed you would be someone I would really want to see opinions from, a person who “loths” themself. “NOT” really, ~ but hey thanks for thinking about us.

        Making history you say thats what Barry OMEN is doing? Really, ~ history?

        Lets break that down: ~ His, ~ as in what he claims, A Story, ~ A tall tail ~ A form of recanting what ever feckless rhetoric one so disires others to follow.

        * Also known as, Bull S%^& to persons who hold an IQ higher than a fruit fly.

        Let me just say ~ Thank you for your clear display of just whats broken within this nation.

      • Steve E

        That’s sounds so intelligent mark. Where did you get such insight?

      • eddie47d

        Chill out TIME there is also a Mark on this site so maybe mark is just keeping the names straight!

      • ranger09

        Well l am still waiting for him and congress to DO something for this country and its People. Four years just name something they have done that was worth while.These people spend so much time doing nothing for this country, But spend all their time getting richer off us poor working sheep,And we even pay them to do this.

      • Gail N.

        JimH — I had to laugh at your response but then I realized it wasn’t funny at all! Mark (or should I say mark). you’re an idiot. Just take your food stamps, buy alcohol and drown yourself.

      • Guest

        You are right about running it Mrk.
        RUNNING IT INTO THE GROUND!
        Hope you will be happy with the results!

      • http://sohereandnow.wordpress.com/ duckyack

        Why are you here?

      • Roger

        Yeah Mark soon as we change the way voting is done and we can get it rigged right we will put a republican in that office. How you like that

      • Nadzieja Batki

        O no more knows how to be a leader than you do. Keep flapping your tongue, we need to know how stupid both O and you are.

      • sam1966

        Here is something dealing with the pretender and his legislation:

        http://www.hotair.com/archives/2013/01/22/obama-concedes-obamacare-didnt-do-anything-for-rising-health-care-costs/

        Looks like the pretender is making history. He is making history of how fast he is trying to destroy the nation. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

        “The doctrines of Jesus are simple and tend to all the happiness of man.

        1. There is only one God and He all perfect.

        2. There is a future state of rewards and punishments.

        3. That to love God with all thy heart and thy neighbor as thyself is the sum of religion.”

        Thomas Jefferson
        Letter to Benjamin Waterhouse
        June 26, 1822

    • Karolyn

      Alondra – I am seriously surprised your racial epithet made it through Bob Livingston’s filters. Shame on you!

      • Dennis48e

        And just what “racial epitaph” would that be Karolyn?

      • Karolyn

        How did you miss “jungle bunny”?

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Dear Karolyn, I am surprised, that you still surprised.

        I have to disappoint you: I am NOT ashamed.

        And by the way, you just confirmed that you are RACIST. You let me know that “BUNNY” is NOT Negro creature, but Caucasian. Am I offended “BUNNY”?

        But Karolyn, isn’t your “leader” White Negro – 50/50 ?

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Dennis, Karolyn can read between lines.

      • Karolyn

        Alondra – OMG! You really are a hoot! :-)

    • http://nowebsite SA Dave

      Hi to Alondra
      Primarilly, Obama’s” goal is that of a socialist state, this calls for big government and big control over/of the total population, by way of keeping a large portion of the population, unemployed and recieving goverment benefits, who as Lenin said, would be what he called “useful idiots” at political election times, how many of these “useful idiots ” already exist.
      Obama, on youtube admitted that he is a Muslim, as such his first loyalty is to Islam, not yourself or the country, but Islam, same of which wants to imbue the worlds populations with that ideoloogy, effectively just another form of Islam please beware.

      Cheers, SA Dave

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Dave, unfortunately the Usurper’s goal is much worse – Dictatorial Communism/Fascism with the TOTAL control in ALL spheres of people’s life: What to eat; How much to eat; What car to drive; What light bulbs to use; What TV network to watch; Do not watch Fox News; Do Not listen Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity; Believe his LIES; etc.

        The CONSTITUTION is contempt and ignored; Corruption is flourishing; Discrimination and bullying of majority; Unmasked intimidation of opposition; Demoralization of our society on all levels by Executive Orders.

        Harry S. Truman, the 33rd President, prophesized in 1950:

        “The FUNDAMENTAL BASIS OF THIS NATION’S LAW was given to Moses on the Mount. The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings which we get from Exodus and St. Matthew, from Isaiah and St. Paul. I don’t think we emphasize that enough these days. IF WE DON’T HAVE THE PROPER FUNDAMENTAL MORAL BACKGROUND, WE WILL FINALLY WIND UP WITH A TOTALITARIAN GOVERNMENT WHICH DOES NOT BELIEVE IN RIGHTS FOR ANYBODY EXCEPT THE STATE.”

        It’s unbelievable, but he was Democrat.

        Now compare with the bastard, who is illegally occupying the White House:

        “The future MUST NOT belong to those who slander the prophet of islam…”

        Oh, REALLY?! When the word “slander” became the synonym for the “TRUTH”.

        Isn’t the self-proclaimed PHONY “prophet” was a murderer, rapist, thief, burglar, child molester/pedophile, LIAR. Please point what is not true.

        ALL crimes in the history of the religion of “peace” are perpetrated in the name of their satanic allah and phony “prophet”.

        “First they IGNORE you, then they RIDICULE you, then they FIGHT you, then you WIN.”- Mahatma Gandhi

        Cheers to you, SA Dave

      • Robert Smith

        Posted: “Isn’t the self-proclaimed PHONY “prophet” was a murderer, rapist, thief, burglar, child molester/pedophile, LIAR. Please point what is not true.”

        Gods and saviors generally do as they please. Remember the one they call “virgin” Mary was very young when that older guy (god) knocked her up: “She married Joseph and accompanied him to Bethlehem, where Jesus was born.[5] In keeping with Jewish custom, the betrothal would have taken place when she was around 12, and the birth of Jesus about a year later.[6]” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Mary) (original citation: ^ Allison, Dale C., Matthew: A Shorter Commentary, p.12 Continuum International Publishing Group, 2004 ISBN 0-567-08249-0)

        Rob

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Robert Smith, your incoherent nonsensical replies just proving the Libtardic mindset.
        Your Libtardic twisted two-cell crippled brain with high deficiency of the Grey matter is incapable to process the reality, and therefore you are parroting your irrational senseless craziness.

        Robert Smith, time after time you’re proving God’s claims:
        As a dog returns to his own vomit, so a DUPED CLOWN Robert REPEATS HIS ABSURD & IRRATIONAL FOOLHARDINESS. (Proverbs 26)

        I know, I know Robert, that “The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God.” (Psalm 14:1; Psalm 53:1)

        So let’ translate on the secularic language and re-phrasing Forrest Gump: “STUPID IS AS STUPID TALKS”

        “Magna est veritas et praevalet” – “The truth is great and shall prevail”

        With the Un-Apologetic and Bigoted Christian “AGAPE” – UNCONDITIONAL LOVE,

        Alondra

      • Robert Smith

        And Mary still got knocked up only to watch her kid tortured to death.

        That sure looks like a brutal god to me.

        BTW, 35 and unmarried in that time! I’ve heard it said that he might have been gay.

        Rob

      • sam1966

        I see that Rob has forgotten the stern warning that Bob Livingston has given him a few threads ago. I do believe that banning and blacklisting were 2 of his many choices about his ignorant tirades against God, Jesus, Christianity, and the Bible. Rob, when are you going to learn to stop lying and be quiet? People like you are what is wrong with this great country. Here is something showing what the COOTUS is doing to this country:

        http://www.patriotupdate.com/articles/obama-is-sinking-america/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “Don’t interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained for it is the only safeguard of our liberties.”

        Abraham Lincoln

    • http://www.facebook.com/robert.andersonsr Robert Anderson Sr

      You forgot-Obama’s REAL Daddy-Frank Marshall Davis !!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        The rest of the Frank Marshall Davis’s family is probably still alive but they are kept in the background otherwise the resemblence would be recognized. What results do we expect to get from people when they lower themselves using their ideology to the level of dogs in hea? And boy oh boy, these couplings were definitely from dogs in heat.

      • Robert Smith

        Let’s see what Frank Marshall Davis had to say in some of his work. I found it interesting.

        Check this out: “This idea of procreaton-only is an insult to the God in which the champions of this concept profess belief. I cannot imagine a Supreme Being, supposedly compassionate and all-loving, instilling in mankind the persistent drive for sex activity and then telling us we cannot satisfy this consuming desire when we need to, but instead wait only for those times when we want offspring. Such a god would of necessity be the Supreme Sadist laughing his holy a$$ of at, first, daily tortures inflicted on those who abstain through fear of His despleasure and, second, at contemplation of eternal punishment in hell for those who ignore His dictum and go ahead getting the relief their bodies demand. I, for one, refuse to accept such an insane idea of a God. I believe ses is primarily for pleasure and if there is a Creator, He stuck in reproduction as an after-thought.”

        That’s an except for “Sex Rebel: Black” written by Frank Marshall Davis under the pen name of Bob Green. I kinda like the way he thinks on that subject.

        My own thought along the same line is much shorter when it comes to a god and sex: If there is “inteligent design” why did that brutal christian god put the sewer through the playground?

        Rob

      • sam1966

        Rob Smith, may I once again remind you of what Bob Livingston wrote to you on an earlier thread, hmmm? I guess you won’t learn till you are banned. Anyway, Frank Davis is a coward and traitor. But alas! You’ll believe his 5th column rhetoric, lies, innuendo, and hate, won’t you Rob? Here is something showing how many people are in the dark and are starting to wake up:

        http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/01/do-americans-think-we-face-tyranny/

        Need to wake up Rob. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “When the people rise in masses in behalf of the Union and the liberties of their country, truly may it be said, the gates of hell shall not prevail against them.”

        Abraham Lincoln

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Robert, who knows who his REAL papa is. [comment has been edited]

        1. The 1991 Howard publishers’ booklet states: “Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. The son of an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister
        2. In 2004, long before presidential campaign of 2008, an article in the Kenyan Sunday Standard: “Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate”
        3. The Kenyan ambassador confirming that Barry was born in Kenya and also expressing his pride for his FELLOW-COUNTRY-MAN
        4. Who would know better than wife of the man, especially when she traveled with “anointed one” to his “HOME-country”:
        5. 3 (THREE) Hawaiian Official are denying existence of Obama’s Birth Certificate and gave SWORN AFFIDAVIT indicating the Kenyan charlatan was NOT BORN in Hawaii. Google it.
        6. The Governor of Hawaii Neil Abercrombie admited that there NO records of Obama’s Birth in Hawaii
        7. Attorney Pidgeon found a record for a name change from “Barak Mounir Ubayd” to “Barack Hussein Obama” on October 14th, 1982 in Skookumchuck, British Columbia.

        “I know Social Security numbers have been issued to people in states where they don’t live, but there’s usually a good reason the person applied for a Social Security number in a different state.” – Robert Siciliano, president and CEO of IDTheftSecurity.com

        The point is that he is NOT an American. He and his “FIRST” WITCH have a multiple SS numbers and addresses. They were hiding from the debt collectors.

        The SSA report confirmed that obama has an additional eight Social Security numbers. One of the numbers had DECEASED behind it.

        There are TWO different SSN on the WITCH Michelle obama, including one that does not belong to her but IS LISTED FOR HER at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, Washington, D.C.

        They committed the multiple identity thefts. BOTH ARE CRIMINALS.

        According to the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission (ARDC) of the Supreme Court of Illinois BOTH WERE DISBARRED.

        They never wanted to pay THEIR “FAIR SHARE”, neither their debts.

        “For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known.” (Mathew 10:26)

        “Fiat justitia ruat caelum” – “Let justice be done though the heavens fall

    • sam1966

      Well said Alondra, fellow patriot. I just can’t believe how much the 5th column just doesn’t understand the Constitution and our Christian founding. Here is something from a 5th columner saying that the 2nd Amendment was written to protect slavery:

      wwwpoliticaloutcast.com/2013/01/actor-says-2nd-amendment-created-to-defend-against-slave-revolts/

      Isn’t this something just too ignorant for a grown adult to believe? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

      “They who are decrying the Christian religion are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments.”

      Charles Carroll
      Signer of the Declaration of Independence

      • Fred

        Everyone can speculate all they want about where this country is going but all they have to do is read REVELATION

      • sam1966

        You are correct Fred, fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants.”

        Thomas Jefferson

  • dan

    ….glad he could find a Koran to swear on in private…in Shali Ali ,dhjminis and kafirs!

    • ranger09

      Well when you consider how many of the voters draw govt money(unearned) and all the govt workers that get paid large salarys and perks for producing very little, And more family and friends being added ea week to new govt jobs. No wonder he is still in office.
      Lets see he took 1 oath for the Blacks, 1 Oath for the Muslins, 1 oath for the illegal Mexicans, And then he took an oath for the usa.

      • ibcamn

        you got that right!Obama is a pick n choose leader from the behinder!HA HA,like i had said before,pick n choose,you think he’ll pick to talk about Cody Tucker,little black kid who went and stole his parents glock out of their bedroom and loaded it and,for no apparent reason,went into his 15 year old sisters bedroom and opened fire on her and then turned the gun on himself!?now,he had lees trhan what Fienstein wanted to regulate in ammo,i want to hear this in the news!some of you are so intent on calling them names,i say negro or blacks,(but they are children)so why does our black pres not talk about this?doesn’t make as good a news story?or shows Obamas fricking dumb dick to the bone law is just a cover-up for this black mans agenda!!….there is that gonna get through bob’s filter??the truth!!

    • JUKEBOX

      I’m surprised that he didn’t burn those girly man hands on the two bibles.

      • ibcamn

        True,his palms are white,and i think good ol Malcomb X,if he were alive today,not only would he be clawing at the coffin lid,but he would be dancing in that grave![what?,too much?],or maybe rooling in it to see how all the black singers and actors(ess)are bleaching themselves like Michele J…..but yes i to am surprised the whole white house has not gone up in flames,and if looks could kill,GOP speaker baihner would definatly be gone after the looks(and eye rolling)mrs Obama gave at speech!so there is a lot of crap floating around the white house now and the double bible thing,is that legal?or is it any bible they get their hands on?i’m sure for some add time Holiday Inn would donate some cash to the Obama fund for using one of their hotel room bibles!..i found one that the pages were stuck together,so never mind that,nasty!!

      • Karolyn

        JUKEBOX says: “Ugh, me have big manly tough hands. Me man!”

      • http://none SA Dave

        Good day Jukebox and can I say Alondra also,

        A touch of relevant humour.

        Muslim computer fanatic at party boasts that he has the whole Koran on disc,

        Another party goer asks him, would you burn a copy for me please. LOL, no it does not stand for Lots of love.

        Cheers

        SA Dave

    • robbiefine@hotmail.com

      I heard that after the first oath Obama and Michelle shouted “Allah Akbar” and Chief Justice Roberts joined in too. Then Obama burned a copy of the Bible and sung the Kenyan national anthem while holding his arm up in a Nazi salute and placing his other hand so that a finger under his nose made him look like he had a Hitler moustache. It was quite a scene. Then most of his cabinet members entered the Oval Office dressed in Arab garb with the women wearing niqab and hijab and they feasted on a meal of cous-cous and falafel. A fine time was had by all on your tax dollars (!). Of course no cameras were allowed and this secret swearing in is totally confidential. Please pass along all of this information to other patriots. They need to know the TRUTH. May God bless the U.S. & A.

      • Karolyn

        Just plain sick!

  • Dr Richard Wright Hogeland

    Democrat Senator Diane Feinstein is sponsoring the Gun bill
    I just at random googled Oakland Homicide
    Most of the vicitms – killed with fire arms – of course – you guessed it- are young blacks – living in the poorest sections of Oakland – why is that not surprising! Of the 103 homicides with fire arms 74% were blacks out of a population where the blacks represent only 28 % of the population
    The victims ages are mostly 18-25 years of age
    Oakland has the most homicides of numerous cities of similar size and population.

    Why – I ask – innocently – does not Diane – work on her own back yard – and get to the real root of homicides in her home State – ergo poor social and economic conditions are the cause of the homicides – not guns –
    but going further – why are not these young people taught to deal with their social and economic conditions – and if they are unable correct those conditions through hard work and discipline – and determination – to learn to deal with their unfortunate situations without killing other human beings?

    • eddie47d

      Whether Liberal or Conservative Republican or Democrat the black communities are always ignored. Ask yourself what are Republicans doing for black communities ? Even less than the Democrats! Blacks better wake up and realize that all they will ever get is lip service from either party and that there is no pot of gold at the end of the political rainbow. One advantage blacks do have is a strong religious faith and large church attendances.Yet its almost like they are waiting for God to come down and save them instead of saving themselves.

    • Bill

      Hi Dr Richard,
      You have hit the nail on the head. The made up crisis of guns is just smoke and mirrors for the lefts failed economic policies. They are trying to kill two birds with one stone: Divert attention from incompetance and take away the guns

      It is amazing how stupid people are to fall for it again again, It is kind of like Lucy and the football.

      I thought it was funny the diversion of “The war on women”. They take some ivy league college student, living on momma and daddies money and it is a crisis because the government won’t pay her $10 a month for her birth control.

      The REAL war on women is the lack of economic opportunity so that they can get ahead, be independent, support their children and build self esteem. As long as our economy stifles economic growth, women will be held down

      • Donna Jackson

        Amen!!!

      • http://naver samurai

        Yes, just leave sexual promiscuity and abortion off the table and I agree with you 100%. Here is some good news dealing with Obama bin Laden:

        http://www.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323539804578263793332301584.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

        Looks like he is starting to crash and burn. But alas! What has taken the courts so long? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “God gave me a successor!”

        King Sansang
        10th King Goguryo Kingdom
        November 208 A.D.

        *This shows that Christianity or the belief in God had spread to East Asia earlier than we learned in our books.

    • ranger09

      Politicians NEED crime, They have no will to see it defeated, Even if they did try to solve the crime problems They would have to start with themselves,
      They find that its easy to make and Enforce laws againest the Honest citizen, Not counting the Extra fees they impose on the Honest citizen, The criminal as we know do not follow the law or pay these fees
      When it comes to law Enforcement the police can always find the Honest citizen, They have problems when it comes to finding the criminal.

    • JUKEBOX

      You didn’t happen to find out how many of those murders were committed with a legally obtained firearm did you?

      • Robert Smith

        While you are at it please bring back a number for the folks who defended themselves with a firearm and saved their own lives and those around them. I’m sure it’s a big number.

        Legal gun owners aren’t just responsible for their own lives, but when they catch a crook they are saving the victims of the future. Dealing with bad guys isn’t just a right, its also a responsibility.

        That’s why I think there should be much more training offered and less politics. The NRA should be working more with Eddie Eagle than chicken hawks in congress.

        Rob

    • http://sohereandnow.wordpress.com/ duckyack

      Dr. Richard, it is unfortunate, but stereotypes don’t come out of thin air. There is always historical, empirical evidence that defines the stereotype, and in the case of poor black trash, the truth is, just like other generational welfare leaches, their is little personal strengths of character. No work ethic, spoiled and entitled, very little regard for self and human life, and a continuous blaming everything other than self for their plight. What or black, the difference is very little except that blacks will slaughter each other much more quickly than one white will murder another. We have spent decades trying to bolster a good self-image for the black population–as a retired teacher, I’ve seen the effort bend over backwards to raise personal self-esteem. Nothing works because their mindset is “white man, you owe me, and whatever I get, it will never be enough!” Whaa-whaa-whaa-I’m tired of listening to it! And I am by far, not the only one. A growing community of blacks agree that pushing whites must come to an end, or there will be serious damage done.

  • JAPCEC

    Alondra, you are right on point! another four years of this man will kill the America we grew up in and love for it’s greatness. I have a sneaking feeling he may just overextend himself and wind up another Bill Clinton. Differing circumstances and reasons from Clinton’s Lewinski gate but the effect will be the same. Anyone who is as full of himself
    (and something else I won’t mention here) is doomed to overreach his boundaries. The one thing we all need to pray for is that it happens sooner as opposed to later. The longer he remains in office, the more damage done to our country. Let’s not forget when the Lewinski problem hit the news, Bill was only one year into his second term. His “mentoring to a troubled youth”, as Hillary put it, effectively neutered him for the remainder of his term resulting in fewer of his policies to be brought forth and acted upon. All it took was one 24 year old intern for the mighty Bill Clinton to hit the rocks. I’m willing to bet that Big “O” gets every bit as cocky and overestimates his purview so badly it will ultimately lead to his demise. His hubris indicates he will most likely do that very thing and soon! It can’t be too soon for me.

    • eddie47d

      Yes Bill was cocky to say the least and took advantage of his position. Was it a national crises as the Republicans turned it into or a personal sin where he was outed and was forced to change his ways. For those who are political it will be the former and for those who are religious it will be the latter. If God teaches forgiveness and the sin stopped then you must follow your faith and move on. If not then you are the one sinning against God’s command.

      • JUKEBOX

        Clinton’s hubris does not come close in comparison to Obama’s thumbing his nose to the Constitution.

      • Bill

        Eddie,
        Now you are babbling.

      • eddie47d

        I wasn’t referring to you Bill since you have your panties in a bunch! Besides you have something against forgiveness and God!

  • Dr Richard Wright Hogeland

    I looked up the statistics on Homicides in Oakland and Los Angeles – the home state of the good
    Democrat Senator Diane Feinstein who is sponsoring the Gun Legislation
    I just at random googled Oakland and Los Angeles homicides -
    Most of the vicitms – killed with fire arms – of course – you guessed it- are young blacks – living in the poorest sections of Oakland – why is that not surprising! Of the 103 homicides with fire arms 74% were blacks out of a population where the blacks represent only 28 % of the population
    The victims ages are mostly 18-25 years of age
    Oakland has the most homicides of numerous cities of similar size and population.

    Los Angeles is even a worse case – in that City most of the Homicides are committed by Latinos and blacks –
    In Compton it is nearly 26 Homicides per 100,000 in Inglewood it is 19 per 100,000
    Los Angeles has a higher rate of Homicides than New York City and yet New York City has 9,000,000 population and Los Angeles about 4,000,000

    Why – I ask – innocently – does not Diane – work on her own back yard – and get to the real root of homicides in her home State – ergo poor social and economic conditions are the cause of the homicides – not guns –
    but going further – why are not these young people taught to deal with their social and economic conditions – and if they are unable correct those conditions through hard work and discipline – and determination – to learn to deal with their unfortunate situations without killing other human beings? Good schools would help – since the Latinos and the Blacks home – family life is so poor –
    You don’t have to be financially well off to know right from wrong!
    Guns have a negligible effect on the homicide rate
    So what is the real reason to control guns?
    Here we are painting all of the good guys with the same brush as the bad guys – because we will not face the real problem – the real problem is we have a large population of Latinos and Blacks – that have little family guidance – not a decent education – and until we acknowledge that problem publically – it will not be solved -

    Dr Richard Wright-Hogeland

    • JimboNC

      Dr. Richard Wright-Hogeland, is exactly right about that. You can take poor, uneducated people out of ghettos and put them in modern condos only to watch them trash those as well, because the ghetto-lifestyle cannot be taken out of them. They have no idea why people like nice homes, it’s a deep mystery to them. I had a poor friend tell me,” I don’t like pretty, nice, and clean, I like dirty, dingy and grubby.” Well employed, good salary, she still got her clothes and curtains for her apartment trolling neighborhood trash-cans.

      • nc

        Jimbo. just a brief revue of history will reveal that at different times is our history Jews, Irish, Italians and others “whites” were considered the scum of the ghettos who would never amount to anything> They have gone on to become the backbone of this nation, Visit the black colleges and neighborhoods with an open mind and you see where the folks whose grandparents were not allowed to learn to read and see the advancement they have made. Better still drop by Walmart and have a good look at the white folks who shop there and follow them home and see how they care for their digs.

        Pass this on to your mentor Dr. Hoglot.

    • ranger09

      Well over many years the blacks and the mexicans, and a few others have learned its easy to receive govt money and also to commit crimes, It beats working for a living, Just look at what the young people have for examples OUR POLITICIANS

    • JUKEBOX

      Don’t forget to mention the thousands of illegal weapons that are possessed by these criminals.

  • Zed

    I lived in San Francisco back when Feinstein passed her now infamous gun ban.
    The papers kept asking awkward questions about the FIVE handguns she owned, oh, and about the concealed carry permit that no one else is allowed to have?
    To appease the press, she decided to publicly give up ONE of her five handguns.
    And suddenly the press loved her again.
    To this day, words fail me concerning that whole fiasco.

    • ranger09

      Sorry folks You for got to add Stockton, ca to that list. And its real close to The Capital in sacramento When i was attending some special classes at the CJC i was invited to ride with some Police in stockton, What a cess pool, at that time it was the murder city of the country. Even the capital sacramento has bus.areas that all shut down by 9pm. Just shows you politicians DO nothing about the Real Criminals in our state or the country.

  • hank hervey

    Obama go home. We need our gun rights left the way they are.
    You need to stop drugs and drug lords.
    Need you to stop your stuppid over spending.
    Why not do your job and get a set budget and move own.

    • Robert Smith

      The drug lords can be blunted by ending the prohibition on pot.

      Some of the money problems can be solved with taxing lega pot, just like booze.

      But, it’s generally been the right that puts kids in jail for pot and ruins lives. That ain’t Obama.

      Rob

      • DavidL

        Saw your link from CNN. Very interesting. I am anxious to see how the Catholic Church “rethinks” its position of arguing, in defense of the wrongful death suit against them, that a fetus (unborn) is not a person.

        As you know, what is legal isn’t always moral and illegal not always immoral. It will be interesting to see if they seek that port in their storm.

      • Robert Smith

        I’m looking forward to it. I’d almost take a bet that it will be ignored around here.

        Kinda makes a mess of things when the church puts winning a lawsuit over its position.

        Rob

      • sam1966

        “Users are losers and losers are users, so don’t do drugs. Don’t do drugs!”

        McGruff the Crime Dog

        Here is what the pretender thinks of Christians:

        http://www.lastresistance.com//1090/obamas-buddies-sentences-family-to-prison-for-converting-to-christianity/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you and DavidL out.

        “A patriot must be a religious man.”

        Thomas Jefferson

    • ranger09

      Sorry hank, The politicians DO not want to stop crime, To muck money flows in their direction, Its easier to enforce laws againest the Honest citizens.

  • Steven Stresel

    I live in NY…the good part…upstate. I was watching Como saying “You don’t need ten rounds to kill a Deer”…clearly alot of elected officials in this country have no understanding of the Second Amendment…

    • Robert Smith

      Or if shooting deer. Hasn’t the good Como ever heard of practice, practice, practice?

      I used to buy .22 by the brick (500 rounds) and with a few rifels, a few friends, and some fresh paper go through it in an afternoon. Then I’d intro shooting small silhouette was such a novelty for city slickers who had no clue that a target had to be either live or paper.

      Rob

      • Bill

        Nice try, Robert
        But your “Good ol boy, gun owner who sees the need for gun control” is so transparent, and we can see through it.

        You are just a typical progressive making up stories on the net

      • Robert Smith

        Hey Bill, do you object to secured guns or trigger locks?

        After all, if trigger locks had been in place in CT there might be a mommy and a bunch of kids alive who aren’t. Don’t you think it’s wise to keep folks around the house, neighborhood kids, and crooks getting guns that can easily work?

        Except for you carry gun on your person (which is exactly where it needs to be in an emergency) what does it take away from any of your “rights” to put a trigger lock on everything else?

        Locking ammo is a pretty good idea too. Is yours locked up (again, except for what you carry).

        Rob

      • phideaux

        “After all, if trigger locks had been in place in CT there might be a mommy and a bunch of kids alive who aren’t.”

        Trigger locks would not have made any difference in the CT case because they are easy to defeat. Trigger locks prevent easy immediate access to a firearm but can be defeated in 10 minutes or so by a determined individual.

      • Robert Smith

        “Trigger locks prevent easy immediate access to a firearm but can be defeated in 10 minutes or so by a determined individual.”

        I sincerely doubt that. Can you show us a video on or demo someplace?

        Rob

    • http://govogue.wordpress.com govogue

      When laws are passed that abridge the rights of “We the People”, they have been enacted in treason and in violation of the the Oath of Office……..Period.

  • Robert Smith

    The caption on the painting behind Ben is, “Pull my finger.”

    Rob

    • http://personalliberty Alondra

      From???

  • http://http://johnnyangeladvocacygroup.net JohnnyAngel Advocacy

    Any…That’s A-N-Y, Government official attempting to pass this gun ban should be prosecuted for treason against the US Constitution!!!

    • eddie47d

      The District of Columbia vs Heller indeed gives the right to individual protection and gun ownership. It also says limits can be set in many circumstances. “Like most rights,the Second Amendment right is not unlimited.It is not a right to carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose”. There is nothing treasonous about asking for those limits/controls and that is what is open for discussion.

      • Frank Kahn

        No, eddie, it is not open to discussion. The meaning of the word infringe is set in stone. Nothing you, or any other self delusional anti-gun person, can do will change the definition.

        I know, from your past posts, that you think Clinton was maligned for political purposes. You THINK that they impeached him for sexual misconduct. You think it was an abuse of taxpayer money and congressional time. You think he was properly acquitted.

        He was wrong, he used lawyer tactics of deception and obfuscation to avoid conviction of a federal offense. He was impeached for perjury in congressional hearings. That means that he lied under oath. Then he used an incorrect definition of the word SEX to prove that he was not lying. He WAS having SEX with her in the Oval Office. To say that she was having sex with him, while he was a non participant is BS. Then, later, he did his famously quoted statement “that depends on what your definition of the word is, is.” To attempt to make something RIGHT or WRONG based on your PERSONAL definition of a word is WRONG.

        We dont need the Supreme Court to decide what the word infringed means, it is already in the dictionary.

        “infringed past participle, past tense of in·fringe (Verb)
        Verb

        Actively break the terms of (a law, agreement, etc.): “infringe a copyright”.
        Act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on: “infringe on his privacy”.”

        You will notice the words “to limit or undermine”, which means any limiting or lessening of something. It does not, however, qualify this with the clause “except for small limits or minor undermining”.

        So the usage of the words “shall not be infringed” in the second amendment says there can be NO limits placed on the right to bear arms. Not if eddie, jeff, Bob666, the supreme court, congress or even the president want to do it.

      • eddie47d

        I don’t agree with your assessment. Good night.

      • sam1966

        Care to cite a source on this Ed? As I read my copy of the Constitution, I see nothing about limits anywhere in the 2nd Amendment. If you’re talking about someone having an arsenal, you may have a point. There are 2 in my house, one for me and one for Sook Young, and they are in constant arms reach when we are at home. Here is something basically showing Feinstein is going for all our firearms:

        http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/24/How-Did-Shotguns-And-Handguns-Become-Assult-Rifles

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “I observe in the Virginia Constitution an abridgment of a right I do not approve. It is the incapacitation of a clergyman from being elected.”

        Thomas Jefferson

    • Steve E

      Yes, prosecute them and then execute them.

      • ranger09

        STEVE, WHO is going to prosecute them.??? These people protect ea other againest such things, But they are good at prosecuting the Honest citizens with the laws we allow them to make and enforce.
        But when you have a country of sheep just following the Bell, What else could you expect.

    • robbiefine@hotmail.com

      The 2nd. Amendment does not say guns, it says “arms”. Would arms, then, include all sorts of weapons? How about bombs? Don’t we think its wrong for government to be preventing us from arming ourselves with bombs? How dare they. Let’s face it if you want to shoot up a school and a classroom or two and all the kids in it why not use a bomb. That way you can blow up the entire building. Much more efficient. Government has no right to deny us the freedom of having bombs.

      • CZ52

        Until the gun control act of 1934 it was perfectly legal for anyone who could affort it to own cannons with little or no restrictions. Cities, counties, and states could own them as well.

      • eddie47d

        What’s your real point CZ52 that kids can then take their parents cannons and mount them on the back of a pick up truck and nail other kids in school that way. I know some of you are begging for a more insane world and dreams do come true.

      • http://www.facebook.com/bob.maroldy Bob Maroldy

        CZ52 is right. Prior to 1934 an average citizen could go into a hardware store and walk out with a Thompson submachinegun or dynamite or….. At that time there were no mass school shootings or similar. It was just the mobs killing each other that prompted the government to ban these things. The result? Good citizens deprived of things they did not misuse and criminals not affected. Today, the government wants to deprive good citizens of the means of self defense AND the means to resisit government tyranny by claiming it’s to “protect the children.”…….The result will be more crime against innocent people and an out-of-control government.

      • Vicki

        Bob Maroldy says:
        “CZ52 is right. Prior to 1934 an average citizen could go into a hardware store and walk out with a Thompson submachinegun or dynamite or….. At that time there were no mass school shootings or similar. It was just the mobs killing each other that prompted the government to ban these things. The result? Good citizens deprived of things they did not misuse and criminals not affected.”

        That is why I came up with an actual number of good citizens who are being deprived of their GOD given rights.

        That number is

        ~300 million. (Source US Government Census)

        We know from the FBI crime statistics that ~30,000 people are killed using a tool (gun) every year. (Varies a bit by year also)

        So that means that 99.99% of the population is INNOCENT.

        We need to STOP punishing the INNOCENT

        ~300 million Americans did not shoot anyone.

        Stop punishing the innocent for the acts of a few

        Stop it
        Stop it NOW

        • R. Fine

          God gave you the right to use a gun? Why didn’t/doesn’t God give that same right to people in other countries? Is God an American?

      • Robert Smith

        Claimed: “Stop punishing the innocent for the acts of a few”

        Well… What about that brutal god who killed EVERYONE in a flood except Noah and his kin? All those babies, all those good people…

        Why not follow the example of that god?

        Rob

      • sam1966

        Well said Bob and Vicki. Just ignore the bleeding hearts on this site and maybe they’ll go away. I see it is SSDD, eh Rob? Knock it off Rob! You’re going to be canned one of these days. Here is something about Obama bin Laden tearing up the 1st Amendment:

        http://www.lastresistance.com/1088/combating-terrorism-another-stab-wound-in-the-first-amendment/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “The Federalist may fairly enough be regarded as the most authentic exposition of the heart of the federal Constitution as understood by the body which prepared and the authority which accepted it.”

        James Madison

  • Linda

    Great résumé of reality .

    Just hopping many more people were able to reach you
    Thank you Linda E.

  • mark

    Hey Ben, Four More Years! Four More Years! Why don’t you and Romney go on a crying jag together. Call it the Loser’s Ball. No Monster’s Ball is better.

    • tweaver1945

      It will be all uphill for Barry who might decide he’d rather play golf, shoot hoops, or drink a few brewskis with ‘friends’ – or take another 7 million dollar vacation then work across the aisles. Oops, I forgot; he uses BiteMe as the backup quarterback when his back is against the wall.

    • eddie47d

      Were you angry at Nixon when he went bowling in the White House basement? Were you mad at G Bush when he chopped wood on his ranch and played golf? Were you mad at Carter when he spent time off in Plains? Yes Hawaii is a little further away and cost more to get there but it is one of our 50 states TWEAVER. What do you have against beer? As far as “reaching across the aisle” I believe that is also a Republican problem. Go ask R-Saxby Chambliss-Ga who says he is quitting because there is no one cooperating in Washington.

    • Vicki

      mark says:
      “Hey Ben, Four More Years! Four More Years! Why don’t you and Romney go on a crying jag together.”

      Ad hominem

      - mark: “Call it the Loser’s Ball. No Monster’s Ball is better.”

      Argument to ridicule.

      • Robert Smith

        Why don’t you go after the extreme right wingers around here when they do the same thing, Vicki?

        Oh! It’s that old double standard. Thanks for such a clear demonstration.

        Tactics over substance, Vicki. It’s easy to see through.

        Rob

      • Vicki

        Robert Smith says:
        “Why don’t you go after the extreme right wingers around here when they do the same thing, Vicki?”

        I will tell you the same thing that I tell eddie47d when he whines.

        I’m not your referee. Do it yourself.

      • Robert Smith

        Ah, so you think your one sided rules that you just apply to those who disagree with you are OK.

        Thanks for that insight.

        Again, typical double standard from the extreme right.

        Rob

      • sam1966

        Actually, the 5th column uses this as one of their basic attack patterns, but Rob does it to anyone that disagrees with him. He’s just a troll who is bound for hades. Here is something showing how Obama bin Laden is destroying the civil rights we have in this Christian nation:

        http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/21/MLK-Jr-Day-Obama-Presidency-Tragic-Fate-of-Civil-Rights-Movement

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “I would probably have to say yes, that the Constitution established the United States of America as a Christian nation.”

        John McCain

    • sam1966

      Hey mark, why don’t you grow up and get a life you troll? Here is an article showing that more and more county sheriffs will not allow gun grabs in their counties:

      http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/number-nations-sheriffs-refusing-enforce-unconstitutional-gun-laws

      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves mark out.

      “The reason that Christianity is the best friend of Government is because Christianity is the only religion that changes the heart.”

      Thomas Jefferson

  • JACK RODGERS

    ALL THESE LIBS WILL PAY FOR THIS ONE DAY SOON , OBAMA IS A MUSLIM WHO HATES THIS COUNTRY AND ITS PEOPLE, WHAT SS NUMBER IS HE USING NOW I WONDER ? GET HIM OUT OF MY COUNTRY WITH ALL THE FEINSTIENS , LOCK AND LOAD, OH MY GUNS COME AND GET THEM BASTARDS

    • Robert Smith

      Let’s all see how Jack moves to reduce fear of gun owners and introduce common sense to fit into American society (NOT).

      Rog

      • Bill

        Robert,
        If you want to introduce common sense into American society, then quit trying to tie the hands of the law abiding citizens in favor of the criminals. More gun laws are not needed, enforcement of existing laws are what’s needed

      • Robert Smith

        Hey Bill! How am I: “…trying to tie the hands of the law abiding citizens in favor of the criminals”

        I in no way want to restrict worthy citizens (non-criminals & non-crazy). What laws have I proposed that would do such?

        Aren’t background checks to find crooks trying to buy guns worthy? Would you fail one? How does it impede YOU from getting a gun?

        Let’s talk about trigger locks on everything except your carry piece. How does that restrict you in any way? Please explain.

        Locked storage if you don’t use trigger locks. You still got ‘em and you are move likley to keep ‘em if they are locked up and not out and about where kids or crooks may find them.

        BTW, quit lying about me. I’m a gun owner and I’ve taught many many people how to handle them and live with a few common sense rules to keep them safe.

        Rob

    • http://midcontent ridge runner

      Jack, the idoits that vote for the communist loving democrats and the muslim marxist never will admit what the SOBs did to freedom and the USA. Never have understood why the Jewish vote goes to the sumcks who beleive in total goverment controlled society. Wonder when the wailing will start, probably with in 6 months, since Obobo is shiooing several F-16s and 200 Abrams tanks to the Muslim Brother Hood puke must be send severaj mute under 10 boys to the marxist muslim moro n as these pedophile worshipping pervs, get tired of raping their kids and quit abusing their goats and camels. The only reason the sickos need woman for, is because they just roasted their best sheep, and sheep can not wash dishes. As for what SS number Onumnutts is using, since barry can not understand #s, his card is specially created, a couple of fat dogs and the saying of l love big fats.ve fat puppies

      • nc

        Ridge Runner, it is the ignorant rants of people like you that do the Democrats the most good. LIke the repugnut senators and their “good rape” speeches with others praising them> The women really ate that up at the polls! Mittens and his stupid “47%” speech> The catholic right screaming against “birth control” when 98% of the catholic women use the pill!!! (Lawyers for Catholic Hospitals are now arguing that until a fetus EXITS THE WOMB it has no legal rights)
        BOBBY JINDAL SAID IT BEST< " IT'S TIME FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TO STOP BEING THE STUPID PARY!!
        NOTE TO BOBBY: SORRY, BOBBY, THEY CAN'T HELP THEMSELVES! SEE RIDGE RUNNER COMMENTS!

      • sam1966

        98% of Catholic women use the BCP? Care to cite a source on this one no cajones? How about the big speech by Pelosi about having to pass the bill to see what’s inside it? How about Hitlery ranting about what should have been done at Benghazi didn’t matter? How about Obama bin Laden helping his brother in Kenya by being responsible in 1000 deaths? Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. You say that the GOP and conservatives are the stupid ones? With libturds like Joe Biden, you can’t say that your 5th columners are actually that smart. Here is something dealing with Obama bin Laden and the hostages in Algeria:

        http://www.westernjournalism.com/did-obama-stage-the-algerian-kidnapping-to-trade-the-blind-sheik/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

        “I don’t know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is One Nation Under God.”

        George H. W. Bush

  • ibcamn

    Obama will use every dirty trick he and his henchmen can think of,they sent GIECO ins. co. after a man who’s company makes firearms!no insurance on his vehicales(and all equipment or buildings under said policies)he and his company are literaly forced to stop manufacturing and delivery on his product,as we all know GIECO is a gov’t run ins. co.!Obama also has sent his SS division(the IRS) in to assault the people and companies who gave (donations) and supported Romney after the election and even before it was finished,these people and their companies are still under seige from Obama and his henchmen!this is why Obama fought so hard to get his hit list in his hot little hand.and he’s back to using the EPA in his assault on the American people!you don’t hear him going after all the parents of known gangbangers for asking how they are paying for all their gold chains beauty salon tretments(nails and weaves) and cadillac suv and big screen tv’s and doing it all on less than i make a month(and i don’t have any of those things)and you know they have just as many guns(if not more)in their house,and if their kids are felons,they can’t own them!why isn’t he doing more to stop gun violence that way rather than going after law abiding citizens,NEVER MIND,I JUST ANSWERED MY OWN QUESTION,I DON’T LIVE OFF THE GOV’T,I’M NOT BLACK OR HISPANIC AND I DON’T SUPPORT OBAMA,I DON’T LIVE IN A GHETTO OR INNER CITY ETC……so if we don’t want to be hassled by Obama and his henchmen,i should just do all the stuff they do!?!?!(didn’t M.J. take meds to change his skin color?)because if Obama keeps on infringing on our rights i will be an outlaw!then will he leave me alone too?

    • eddie47d

      First of all I don’t care for anyone who lives beyond their means and color has nothing to do with that equation. Secondly blacks as with every American have a right to self defense and the right to own a gun for that purpose. Yet some of you keep turning this into a black and white issue with emphasis on the blackness. I’ve already stated my opinion on assault TYPE weapons on the streets so I don’t care if you are black or white or Latino or live in a mansion or a trailer. There is no rational need for them and there needs to be laws controlling high capacity magazines. We need to set up a system where target shooters can use them at the range and for competitive purposes. Beyond that they are nothing more than an extension of an owners ego and false bluster whether some ghetto kid or an arrogant millionaire.

      • Dennis48e

        ” I’ve already stated my opinion on assault TYPE weapons on the streets …”

        More double speak from eddie.

        For any who missed it, in previous discussions on the subject eddie has indicated he considers ANY semi-auto firearm to be an assault type weapon. If they are banned he most likely would consider any other repeating firearm an assault type weapon.

      • eddie47d

        Correction Dennis; “over 10 rounds” but thanks for noticing.

      • Frank Kahn

        eddie, do you ever get tired of ranting about something that you have no say in? Do you even see the hypocrisy in what you said? Do you have any American English reading comprehension skills? The LEGITIMATE REASON for owning ALL TYPES of ARMS is clearly stated in the second amendment, and it is not hunting or target practice.

        And I wish I could have found a reply button for the intellectually handicapped person that thinks that keeping guns locked in safes or with trigger locks is not a detriment to self protection.

        My guns have never been locked in a safe and I dont own or use trigger locks because MY GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE. Haven’t had any stolen either.

      • Robert Smith

        Wow are you making the case that not all gun owners are as responsible as they might be.

        I find it sad that you brag about it.

        Rob

  • http://yahoo.com shade

    Feinstein is SOOOOOOOOO ugly, she needs a gun! To ward off evil spirits! No guy (good or bad) would touch that “ugly thang!” Even her bullets wear blinders so they don’t have to look at her on the way by!

  • http://midcontent ridge runner

    Too much long term bushman mindset is Obozo dirty trick bag, being a compulsive lair is just part of the muslim beleif, compounded by being a marxist loving idoit. Has anyone really looked at how many female pooches are in the communist democrap parties women must have to pass the mutt test. A filet tied around their neck sure wouldn’t help make them more acceptable. No wonder Whorehound had a wondering junk bag. If the muttishness isn’t enough, the vocal bi–chness mouth, is the real killer.

  • MexicansaysLibtardsRPukes
  • Oscar Pearson

    So, with all of the illegal moves and decisions Obama One is making, how come we have no leadership holding him accountable and filing charges? Are we that weak that we can’t stand up to a Dictator and say no more? In ANY other country he would have already been charged, found guilty and imprisoned. So what is really going on here?

    • robbiefine@hotmail.com

      What’s going on here you ask? What’s going on is that a majority of American voters went with the President and rejected the head clown put forward by the GOP. And the Electoral College result was a total wipe out for poor old Mitt. He couldn’t carry any of the key states needed to win. The majority of Americans favour Obama’s policies and now more of them will be enacted in his second term. I suggest you go back a couple of months and check out the election results. You do believe in elections don’t you? Are you really an American? Anyway, that’s what’s going on here.

      • Frank Kahn

        And when he steps over the line on guns thousands will die because of his stupidity.

      • Karolyn

        Frank – If thousands die, it won’t be because os HIS stupidity.

      • sam1966

        I believe in fair elections Robbie, but this one was stolen from the get go. Big world of difference there. Here is something about a congressman thinks that Obama bin Laden is a communist:

        http://www.prisonplanet.com/congressman-obama-only-upholds-the-soviet-constitution.html

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “The comparisons of our governments with those of Europe are like a comparison of Heaven and hell.”

        Thomas Jefferson

        • R. Fine

          Stolen? In what way was it stolen exactly? I can understand that some Republicans would feel that way because for months they were fed the line that Mitt was a winner. The Fox “news” people on election night went in to shock when the true results started coming in. My advise to you is that in future your should get your news from sources that are reality based.

      • sam1966

        Sorry dude, but the whole MSM was saying that Romney was ahead in every poll and declared Romney the winner in all 3 debates. Plus, when Obama bin Laden won, did you see the look of surprise on his face? Even he thought he had lost, so how did this happen? Just study for yourself and get back into reality. Here is something about your pretender in office:

        http://www.lastresistance.com/1110/obama-officially-arms-radical-islamists/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “By means of schrewd lies unremittingly repeated, it is possible to make people believe that heaven is hell – and hell heaven. The greater the lie the more readily it will be believed.”

        Adolf Hitler
        Mein Kampf

        • R. Fine

          I checked various polls every morning for at least 6 months and Obama led in virtually all of them every single day. Usually the only divergence was on FOX news – FOX was always the odd man out due to their wishful thinking.

          But let us just assume that the election was rigged. Do you mind telling us how Obama pulled that off. Several of the so-called swing states were/are RED states and Republicans were in charge of voting. How did Obama get Republican governors and election boards and attorneys general to fudge the results? Just asking how that might have been done even though the contention is totally ridiculous.

          • sam1966

            Just look at Philadelphia where they had not a single GOP vote. You know there is something crooked there. In Ohio where they said all but 7 counties voted for Obama? That is another lie. Need to wake up and smell the coffee as the fix was already in. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This seems to leave you out.

            http://www.faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-culture/the-bible-and-government

            This will once again help you know how we were founded and how Obama bin Laden is opposite of those beliefs. He wants to bankrupt us and then reshape us into a socialist state. Wake up!

            “If we and our posterity neglect religious instruction and authority; violate the rules of eternal justice, trifle with the injunctions of morality, and recklessly destroy the political constitution which holds us together, no man can tell how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us and bury all our glory in profound obscurity.”

            Noah Webster

            Most well known for his 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language, Noah Webster was a devout Christian and his worldview is evident in his intellectual works. Biblical references are found throughout Webster’s writings which also includes a translation of the King James Bible.

          • R. Fine

            Your comments are simply not credible. Not a single vote in all of Philadelphia for Mitt? That has to be false news. Where on earth did you hear that? As for Ohio are you telling me that the Republican state house and county election officials eliminated votes for Mitt? How did Obama get them to do that. Well, he didn’t because it is not true.

    • eddie47d

      Correct Robbie and first Oscar has to find a dictator in order to prosecute.

  • nickkin

    We need all the guns we can get & keep, to protect us from the Feinstines, pelosi’s and the likes. The govn’t is now becoming our enemy. Our law is the constitution and guns. Our families are in jeopardy. Obummer and his puppet minions want to become czarist’s. We need a third party since the Repubs have the insignia of a Rino. We can call the new party, ” the constitutionalist party”. We will keep the the National Anthem as our song, followed by guns & roses.

  • spyderdalton

    When guns are banned only criminals and government will have guns and there is no difference between the two…

    http://youtu.be/5To0r5y93mA

  • FreedomFighter

    This is not about Gun Control, its about control of the American people, this has happened many, many times in history, usually as a dictator or other totalitarian governmental system is implemented. The government fears and rightly so, the people don’t want to be treated like a collective of ants, enslaved with mandatory healthcare that opens the door to absolute physical control measures, silenced, disarmed, fed psychotropic compounds in the water that pacify, and with them as queens, and kings of a false utopia, very much a Dystopia.

    Mankind can come up with a better way to develop a society bound for the stars.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • FreedomFighter

      BTW the Finestien bill in congress allows government employee to carry whatever weapon, but not a citizen…blatently unconstitutional 2nd amendment infringement along with …congress shall make no law that only pertains to citizens and not them.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • Vicki

        Any government employee? Interesting.

      • sam1966

        I agree whole heartedly fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “Can the liberties of a nation be secure when they have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?”

        Thomas Jefferson

    • Robert Smith

      From ff: “This is not about Gun Control, its about control of the American people,”

      Tell me Freedom Fighter, how do trigger locks on everything except the piece you have on you stop any part of the 2nd ammendment?

      BTW, I’ll agree that trigger locks would not have helped in VA or in the theater shooting. Both of those had their guns legally.

      But trigger locks may have kept Colembine and CT from happening. Don’t you think it’s dumb NOT to secure your firearms when you aren’t right there with them? I know of at least one mother who might have lived had she locked her guns up.

      Rob

      • FreedomFighter

        I always thought communism was crap, really.– Alexei Sayle

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • eddie47d

        For such a “civilized” capitalistic country we sure do allow a whole bunch of unnecessary deaths. You can’t keep using the commie excuse FF in not rectifying our problems.

      • Robert Smith

        Hey Freedom Fighter, are you suggesting that trigger locks are a commy plot?

        Do you think Stalin or Castro would be proud of you if you kept your guns under lock and key while you weren’t in direct control of them?

        Do you think the CT shooter’s mother was a good American because she didn’t control HER guns?

        One think I’m sure of… She’s dead because she didn’t.

        Rob

      • Frank Kahn

        You use the words “may” and “might”, in reference to trigger locks and gun safes. Yes, maybe it would not have happened, and she might still be alive, but probably not. Your gun safety ideas are bunk, not worth considering and not effective in deterrence to crime.

        Even if you dont consider it an infringement, it still does not give the government the legal authority to mandate it. You want them to mandate a lockable liquor cabinet for all alcohol? Is it just to dangerous to keep your beer in the refrigerator? You know, some teenagers might steal your beer, get drunk and kill someone in a drunk driving accident (vehicular homicide in many states).

        Lets look at banning certain types (so called assault weapons) of guns. Okay, lets give the dictator in power (Obama) the power to dictate what we have or use. It is said to be unhealthy to eat fatty red meat and butter and eggs are high in cholesterol all of which contributes to deadly heart disease. He can now make it illegal to possess and consume those items, because it is good for the safety of the citizens. Unprotected sex leads to unwanted pregnancies and ultimately expensive abortions so everyone must either take mandatory birth control or be sterilized. He THINKS that GLOBAL WARMING is caused by man using fossil fuels so all fossil fuel usage must be illegal. Welfare and unemployment money is good for the economy so everyone should quit working and get on government assistance. I cant build a successful business so, the government will do it for me. Saying something bad about Muslims hurts their feelings so I have to go to jail if I do it. I dont buy health insurance so I am a drain on the money of those that do so he can force me to buy it even though I dont need it.

        Do I think Obama will do all of these things, NO, I just dont want to set a precedence that would give him the idea that he could if he wants to.

      • Robert Smith

        Awwww Frank, you sure do spew a lot of misinformation. Let’s watch: “Even if you dont consider it an infringement, it still does not give the government the legal authority to mandate it. ”

        The government can mandate all kinds of safety stuff. Seat belts are an excellent example. Don’t click it, get a ticket. Your car gets inspected, airplanes get inspected, trucks get checked (and drivers keep logs), and I’ve even got a 750kw genset that has to meet requirements and operate only at specific times if some conditions are present.

        Oh, and safety is never an “infringement.” It’s common sense.

        Rob

      • eddie47d

        Frank has fallen off the banana wagon in claiming that all fossil fuels will be banned. How naive and ignorant!

  • Mary

    Ranger09. “what has Obama done” within his 1st wk in office, he signed an Executive order ordering an audit of gov. contracts, and combating waste and abuse. He created the post of Chief Performance Officer,whose job is to make operations more efficient to save federal gov money. On his first full day in office, he froze White House salaries. He appointed the fist federal Chief Information Officer to oversee federal IT spending. He committed to phasing out unnecessary and outdated weapons systems. to that end, he also signed Democratic-sponsored weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act, which attempted to put a stop to waste, fraud and abuse in the defense procurement and contracting system. Through an executive order, he created the National Commision on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform. He pushed through and signed the democratic-sponsored American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, otherwise known as the “stimulous package”. The bill passed even though only 3 Republicans voted for it. In a major departure from the previous administration, he launched recovery.gov, a website that allows taxpayers to track spending from the Act. By the end of his first year, The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act created and sustained 2.1 million jobs and stimulated the economy by 3.5%. His massive TARP financial and banking rescue plan worked and he then leaned on the banks and others and recovered virtually all of the bail out money. He created the Making Home Affordable home financing plan. Oversaw the creation of more jobs n 2010 allone than Bush did in his eight years as President. Rescued the auto industry and saved as many as one million jobs. He doubled funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership which is designed to improve manufacturing efficiency. He signed the Democratic sponsored Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act giving the federal gov. more tools to investigate and prosecute fraud in every corner of the financial system and create bipartisan Financial Cisis Inquiry Commission to investigate the financial fraud that led to the economic meltdown. He signed the Democratic sponsored Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility and disclosure Act which was designed to protect consumers from unfair and deceptive credit card practices. He increased infraqstructure spending after years of neglect. He signed the “Helping Families Save Their Homes Act, to help millions of Americans avoid preventable foreclosures. The bill also provided 2.2 billion to help combat homelessness and to stabilize the housing market. Through the Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009, he and Congressional Democrats provided tax credits to first time home buyers, which helped the US housing market recovery. He initiated a $15 billion plan designed to encourage increased lending to small businesses and created business.gov, which allows for online collaboration between small businesses and experts re: managing a business. (this program has since merged with SBA.gov ). He signed an Executive Order instructing federal agencies to review all federal regulations and remore any unnecessary and/or burdensome regulations from the books. Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, saved at least 300,000 education jobs, such as teachers, principals, librarians and counselors that would have otherwise been lost. Dismantled the Minerals Management Service thereby cutting ties between energy companies and the government. Along with Congressional Democrats, provided funding to states and the Dept. of Homeland Security to save thousands of police and firefighter jobs from being cut during the recession.. He used recovered TARP money to fund programs at local housing finance agencies in California, Florida, Nevada, Arizona and Michigan. He signed an order banning gifts from Lobbyists to anyone in the Executive Branch. He signed an order banning anyone from working in an agency they had lobbied in previous years and put strict limits on lobbyists access to the White House. He held the first online town hall from the White House and took questions from the public. He became the first to have every White House event streamed. He approved the first voluntary disclosure of the white House Visitors Log in history. He issued an Executive Order on Presidential Records which restored the 30 day time frame for former presidents to review records, and eliminated the right for the vice president or family members of former presidents to do the reviews. Provides the public with grater access to historic White House documents and severely curtails the ability to use executive privilege to shield them. Improved aspects of the Freedom of Information Act and issued new guidelines to make FOIA more open and transparent when processing FOIA requests. He ordered 65 Wall Street Executives to cut their own pay until they paid back all the bailout money. Along with Congressional Democrats passed the Dodd-Frank , one of the largest and most comprehensive Wall Street reforms since the Great Depression. That legislation created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Through the Dodd-Frank legislation rules were passed so banks can no longer use your money to invest in high risk financial instruments that work against their own customers interest. He signed the american Jobs and Closing Loopholes Act, which closed many of the loopholes that allowed companies to send jobs overseas and avoid paying US taxes by moving money offshore. He negotiated a deal with Swiss banks that now permits the US gov to gain access to the records of criminals and tax evaders.
    AND I HAVE BARELY GOTTEN STARTED AND HAVE A HUNDRED MORE THAT I COULD TYPE HERE FOR YOU TO SEE. THEY ARE NOT HARD TO FIND, LOOK THEM UP INSTEAD OF REPEATING THE STUFF YOU HEAR FROM THOSE WHO TRY VERY HARD TO DISCREDIT THE PRESIDENT FOR THEIR POLITICAL AGENDAS.

    • FreedomFighter

      Everything government touches turns to crap.– Ringo Starr

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • Robert Smith

        Is that what you think of our military, Freedom Fighter? Since it’s touched by government it’s crap?

        We wouldn’t have had a space program and the benefits we’ve gotten from it if it weren’t for the government. Is that crap?

        All those elders on Social Security… Touched by society and the investment they made during their workign lives. Is that crap?

        Rob

        • robbiefine@hotmail.com

          Rob: People like Freedom Fighter don’t think beyond the superficial babbling they here on Fox and talk radio. So much of what government does is highly beneficial. In any case just the few examples you provided are so obvious and yet non thinkers will ignore even those. Sad really to base your life on some simple minded phrases that have no validity.

      • sam1966

        Like you robbie? Here is something that tells about how people, not guns, kill people:

        http://www.politichicks.tv/column/evil-men-kill-not-guns-the-story-of-reuben-samuel/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “…to attain a serious end it behooves not to stop at any means or count the victims sacrificed for the sake of that end.”

        The Wise Elders of Zion
        Protocol 15

        • R. Fine

          Yup, people kill people. But people with semi automatic heavy weaponry kill a heck of a lot more people and quicker than if they did not have a gun. No one wants to take your particular gun away. What most Americans want is for all gun sales to be preceeded by a background check and other measures to ensure that nuts can’t buy a gun. In the event you think anyone should be able to buy and own a gun that can kill 20 or 30 or 40 or 50 children literally in 2 minutes you might want to say so to the parents of those youngsters in Newtown who had their tiny bodies blown to sheds by a nut with a GUN.

          • sam1966

            I already had to go through background checks, a waiting period, and registered my weapons at the Elkhart Police Department. What Obama bin Laden wants for our country to have an unarmed citizenry. This is against the meaning behind the 2nd Amendment. Sorry dude, Americans are willing to fight for our God given rights under the 2nd Amendment. Are you ready to give up your firearms, hmmm? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

            http://www.lawandliberty.org/history1.htm

            Look at this and learn how we were founded and how Obama bin Laden is the opposite of our Christian founding.

            “The laws of nature are the laws of God, whose authority can be superceded by no power on earth.”

            George Mason
            “Father of the Bill of Rights”

          • R. Fine

            I hope you’re not insulted by my telling you that here in Canada we don’t need to have firearms. We don’t need to have machine guns or other heavy weaponry. Sure, we have hunters and sportsmen who, I guess, are registered or have a license or whatever. Like when you go fishing. Native people I think don’t need a hunting or fishing license but I could be wrong about that. Frankly I don’t know what the laws and regulations are and I’m sure I’m not alone. As far as I know you can’t walk around with a hidden weapon. I read a few years ago that a teenager was arrested for having a large knife up his sleeve so that must apply to a gun as well. And I was witness to some nut who came into my bank holding a knife. Within 45 seconds three coppers had him face down on the floor with a knee on his neck. Of course we have a mass shooting every decade or so or maybe every 15 years and we have underworld shootings (guns brought in from your country!) but mostly going around blowing people away is not part of our culture. We are also not paranoid about the folks we elect to government as you seem to be. Frankly I don’t think that paranoia is justified but I know it has come from your history: the revolution and the wild west and all that. It’s interesting that most Canadians – like Americans – look down our noses at countries like Somalia and Yemen and Iraq etc. because of all the religious and ethnic killing that goes on. We think of them as wild barbarians who can not adhere to what we would call civilized ways of solving disagreements. And yet if one looks at the U.S. without rose coloured glasses there really is some of that barbarity going on. The murder rate is really quite astounding and some of these mass shootings that are becoming more prevalent are shocking beyond words. I have many relatives and friends in your country (plus my parents were Americans and my wife is) and I know that many Americans think of the U.S. as the absolute best nation – under God and all that – but in many ways it simply is not.

    • eddie47d

      “Let us spend this day by lifting up those we love,mindful of the grace bestowed upon us by God and by all who have made our lives richer with their presence”. Thanksgiving Day Proclamation President Obama

      • sam1966

        Too bad he worships a false god named allah, Ed. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “I do issue this my proclamation, hereby appointing Thursday a day of public and solemn thanksgiving and prayer to Almighty God, earnestly recommending to all the good people to set apart the said day for those purposes.”

        Thomas Jefferson

        *Here is someone who really worshipped God, not the lies that the pretender is telling.

    • http://na Mike in NE

      Mary, your first sentence “what has obama done” within his 1st wk in office, he signed an EO ordering an audit of gov. contracts, and “combating” waste and abuse? Do you think the waste and abuse has stopped or even abated? It’s had time for success right? I think debt and spending (waste and abuse), has increased more than any president in history. Did your payroll tax increase? Does your $ buy any more or Less than four years ago? Time ran out for me read the rest of your thoughts.

      • Robert Smith

        Mike bleats: “Do you think the waste and abuse has stopped or even abated?”

        Well, at least Obama isn’t setting convicted crooks responsible for deaths free like Bush did for Scooter Libby.

        Rob

    • chuckb

      mary, i can understand now why you voted for him and now i certainly can’t understand why i didn’t. he should hire you for his mis-information and how to twist meanings department. i don’t usually read these long comments, now i’m glad i did, all this time i thought he was out playing basketball or over on the greens. .do you think he will run for a third term? he;s done such a fantastic job, as you clearly prove, ..
      you should have this passed to the media, there are a lot of people that don’t know how well off we are.

      • Mary

        Really, At least I am quoting from legitimate government and news websites with real information. All you have is a bunch of lies with no proof. Don’t you think it would make more sense to actually research things for yourself than listen to the right wing talking heads who have no proof, just a bunch of conspiracies from the uneducated, crazies like Glen Beck. Even FOX news could not deal with that crackpot but he is still at it and some of you are still drinking it all in. You know if you really want to , you can make a conspiracy theory out of everything but that does not make it true.

      • sam1966

        Here is something for you Mary:

        http://www.lastresistance.com/1126/we-need-hearings-on-un-american-activities-now/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “I concur in considering the moral precepts of Jesus as more pure, correct, and sublime then those of ancient philosophers.”

        Thomas Jefferson

    • Don in Ohio

      Mary, my, my, what a load of crap!

      Every one of the things you mentioned has/will result in:
      bigger GOVERNMENT;
      more DEBT,
      restrictions on free market,
      loss of personal freedom,
      and so on.

      Please provide your source for the statement that Odumbo created more jobs in one year than Bush in 8 years. Per the bls.gov website, IT SIMPLY AIN’T SO.

      BTW, The only jobs Odumbo can create are government jobs or Solyndra types where
      we, the tax payers, prop them up until they fail. GM too.

      Regards,
      Don in Ohio

  • Rubygirl

    Mary, Mary, Mary…this is all smoke and mirrors for the things he’s done behind the scenes. If he has accomplished all these things, the the US would NOT be in the shape it’s in. He had a “reason” for doing what you state he’s done. It’s all for his cronies and payback to the Unions. The American People are not any better off for all his “signing and enacting”.

    Just listen to his speeches. He’s all about America, patriotism, military and the middle class. But watch what he does in spite of this words. It’s all just a pretty picture he paints to get people suckered in to him so he can do what he wants!

    • Mary

      Rubygirl, Rubygirl, Rubygirl, wow, Are you saying you are part of the behind the scenes Presidential Administration and have this unique knowledge of what President Obama is really doing, not what he says he is doing? From the way you are talking, I am sure you are not. You give the President too much credit. He can do some things on his own but most have to be done through Congressional legislation. And from the looks of the Republican Congress again these four years, they are still determined to do nothing. Every President before him has used executive privilege to get certain things done and other Presidents have appointed people to certain positions when the house was in recess, yet only with this President has it suddenly become unconstitutional. We had a ban on assault weapons for ten years and no one screamed it was unconstitutional until this President wanted to do it. Hate is a very destructive thing and the Republican party is well on its way to destroying that party. To answer your question, yes I am better off than I was four years ago. I still own my home with no mortgage, my income has gone up, my children are grown, have good jobs and families. I still have the freedom to go and come as I please, worship the way I choose and do what I wish with my own money. If you lost your job or income, it was the fault of the economy or your own doing. President Bush started that recession during his terms. After all Clinton left him with a balanced budget. Obama did not take anything away from me or any of you even though you all believed the lies you were told 4 yrs ago. Well guess what you are still being fed the same crap now as you were then.

      • sam1966

        I see that Mary is still drunk on the kool aid. Here is something scary about 2016:

        http://www.lastresistance.com/1124/joe-biden-for-president-in-2016/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “We believe that Social Security legislation, now billed as a great victory for the poor and for the worker, is a great defeat for Christianity. It is an acceptance of the idea of force and compulsion.”

        Paul Ryan
        Senator from Wisconsin (R)

  • David Cook

    South Dakota has the entire thing right. Any person or government offical who aatempts to take any firearm from any South Dakota resident carring a valid CCW license with be subject to arrest and or civil prosecution or civil liability from the gun owner. Put that in you but and smoke it Fienstien. How would yo like to wake up next to her every morning?

    • Robert Smith

      More right wing “logic”. It’s so much fun to watch.

      Fienstein is ugly in your opinion so she should not be in charge of anything.

      Well David, assault weapons are ugly to a lot of folks, not just as an esthetic thing to look at but in the deed they are designed to do… kill people.

      So, you gonna advocate that assault weapons be banned because they look ugly to some people?

      Come on, Dave. ????????????? You judge just on looks?

      Rob

      • Vicki

        Robert Smith write:
        “So, you gonna advocate that assault weapons be banned because they look ugly to some people?”

        Don’t know about Dave but Feinstein sure does. Both her weapons bans focus on how they look. She even names them in this new ban.

      • eddie47d

        If someone is going to ban something they better be naming the product. That only makes sense.

    • JUSTIFIED

      Feinstein looks like she hasn’t had a bowel movement in a decade, and probably smells the same way, because she certainly sounds that way. You know, full of _ _ _ t.

    • Mary

      The President just asked that all guns be registered and rightly so. He did not say anything about taking away your guns. He proposed that all assault style guns should be registered and no more be manufactured. What is wrong with that? It does not go far enough in my view. You still get to keep your supper dupper killer gun as long as it is registered and if you go nuts, you can still slaughter children and other innocent people. At that point, having a registered gun only tells us where it came from and I am sure the shooter would not care if we knew who he was. Isn’t that the point of these nuts , to get their name out there for fame even if it is negative. After all there is no way to weed out all the crazies until they do something to call attention to themselves. Were you so angry when there was a ten year ban on assault style weapons less than a decade ago or were you even aware it was in existance? Strangely I never heard all this protest then. The 2nd. amendment only guarantees you the right to have firearms, not a specific type. It is indeed the right of the government to limit any weapon that is deemed unreasonable for the good of the majority. YOU can still have your handguns and rifles that do not fall into the assault weapons category. Why do you all insist the government wants to take away all your guns? NO ONE in the Obama administration has EVER said that. Only the NRA and some right wing talking heads are saying that. By the way, some of those on the Board of the NRA are gun manufacturers. Putting all this fear into people is really good for their business. Gun sales have gone sky high. They are not stupid, it’s all about money and many of you buy into it because you have been scared to death. I have a gun and am not afraid of the government, however, the nuts out there, with assaualt guns, do scare me.

      • sam1966

        All firearms have to be registered with your local law enforcement Mary. My 2 firearms are. Quit being a crybaby and stand up for the Constitution, not whinning about Obama bin Laden. Sheesh! Here is one that doubts the use of assult weapons at Sandy Hook:

        http://www.dailypaul.com/271679/assult-weapon-at-sandy-hook-or-not-coronor-vs-msnbc

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “I must beg you to read that Psalm. Read the thirty-fifth Psalm to your friends. Read it to your father.”

        John Adams
        A letter to Abigail Adams

  • http://na Mike in NE

    I would define an enemy as ANY politician, judge etc. whose votes, rulings etc. violates their Constitutional Oath and thereby shreds the Constitution. R/D= ANY. For the americans that advocate for violation are pretty much just “useful idiots”, which are being used by the enemy. Personally, I’m on the side of the Oathkeepers. Oath breakers, take a hike.

  • JeffH

    My letter to Feinstein..it’s been 3 weeks and I’ve yet to hear back from DiFi on this matter. Funny thing is I did get a response on an email I sent her last week. :(

    Senator Feinstein,

    I am a gun owner and want to express my views about the proposed legislation attempting to make it harder for law abiding people to enjoy the sports of shooting and owning a firearm.

    I am a retired Transportation Manager and I am genuinely concerned that the government plans to eclipse my usage of sport shooting.

    Gun ownership is one of the most ardent rights that I believe in. We need to enforce the laws we already have and get rid of the ones that are not enforceable.

    I realize as a legislator you have to show that you are receptive to our needs. I am not one that wants you to reinstall the ban on so-called assault weapons or regular capacity magazines.

    You cannot legislate “crazy.” In almost every instance of mass killing, there were ample red flags and warning alarms that either were avoided or were not acted upon by mental health professionals, family members, friends and acquaintances. While I deeply respect an individual’s privacy and civil liberties, the American people need basic awareness of what indicators to look for regarding potentially violent, psychotic people. Our collective safety begins with being collectively vigilant.

    We need to promote gun safety through public education so that younger generations will grow up with a well-rounded understanding of firearm safety.

    NOTE**
    In closing, I would like to emphasize that you work for me, not the other way around. I will not cower to you or anyones else’s gun grabbing mentality. I have an inalienable right to own the gun of my choice for any and all legal means up to and including my own personal defense of self and property.

    I will defend that right through every legal means afforded me by law and by the Constitution and fight you, through those legal means, every step of the way.

    Please reconsider the harm you will cause to legal and legitimate law abiding citizens by your, and others, overzealous attempt to implement a gun ban of any kind. Your attempt to limit or ban guns in America will only empower the criminals that have no respect for the law.

    Sincerely,

  • http://Yahoo.com Irene Grooms

    I don’t plan on giving up my guns and as far as i’m concern mrs, Fienstien cango jump in the darn ocean cause she thinks that she can have concealed weaspon and we can’t.

    • JUSTIFIED

      That might be a death sentence. I believe the consensus at the time of the Salem Witch trials was that witches can’t float, they sink and drown. Does anyone know if this old crone can do the dog paddle?

      • Robert Smith

        Are you suggesting she is a witch? Wiccan maybe?

        In reality Feinstein has long identified herself as Jewish.

        Who are you to challenge that? I hear that Jesus was Jewish too. Mary, Joe… The whole family back then.

        How can some say they love Jesus and then hate Jews? Some christians look so silly sometimes.

        Rob

  • Jimbo

    For 2 to 3 weeks the administration ranted that the Bengazi attacks were precipitated by an insensitive, anti-Muslim film. They suggested that Americans needed to restrict their speech. Obama even directed the justice department to identify the producer of the film, a man who wished to remain anonymous, for fear of retaliation against him and his relatives in Libya. Of course, all along it was a lie. They knew from the get go, that the attacks were a pre-meditated terrorist attack, unrelated to the video. The terrorists succeeded in their evil plans due to the Obama administration’s ineptitude and apathy towards the lives of the embassy staff. All they accomplished by repeatedly calling attention to the film was to turn more Muslims against us. And that is what I think Obama, a closet Islamic fundamentalist, wanted.

    Now along comes angry Hillary, who “takes responsibility”, and does not see why it matters whether it was a movie protest, or a few “random guys” who decided to attack. She’s STILL lying.

  • Karolyn

    Cop shot dead after pointing stun gun at man’s dogs while responding to domestic violence report.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2025812/Police-officer-Robert-Lasso-shot-dead-pointing-stun-gun-mans-dogs.html#ixzz1V83m5wOP

    • JeffH

      January 22, 2013

      Homeowner halts crime spree, WAFB, Baton Rouge, La. January 18, 2013

      Jeffersonville, Ind. homeowner Mike Dreyer was allowing his ex-wife to stay in a storage building on his property, when two burglars attempted to break into the shed. The ex-wife was inside when the thieves struck at 4:30 a.m., and used her cell phone to alert Dreyer, who was across the property in his home, to the threat. Dreyer retrieved a gun, came out of the house and confronted the criminals. Upon seeing the gun, one of the thieves dropped to the ground, while the other fled over a fence. After a brief standoff with the criminal who had jumped the fence, Dyer managed to call the police and hold the remaining burglar at gunpoint until they arrived. Clark County Chief Deputy Prosecutor Jeremy Mull told media that the captured criminal and his partner were on a crime spree before reaching Dreyer’s property. Mull went on to alert burglars to the dangers of their behavior, warning that “many more homeowners are now armed.”

    • JeffH

      January 15, 2013

      Armed Citizen halts car theft, KENS, San Antonio, Texas 01/15/12

      A man was visiting family inside a home in San Antonio, Texas, when he overheard a pair of thieves attempting to steal his SUV that was parked outside. The SUV owner retrieved a gun, went to confront the criminals, and fired after seeing one of the thieves holding what looked like a gun. The SUV owner’s shots struck both men. One of the wounded criminals attempted to flee in a getaway car, but crashed into a parked vehicle after making it only a block. Once police arrived on the scene, they discovered one of the thieves to be dead and took the other to a local hospital. Police noted that the SUV owner is not expected to face charges.

    • JeffH

      January 11, 2013

      Father protects infant son from violent attack, The Columbus Dispatch, Columbus, Ohio 01/08/12

      After pulling into the driveway of his brother’s home in Columbus, Ohio, Kelby Smith removed his 2-month-old son, still in his car seat, from the vehicle. While still in the driveway, an armed robber approached Smith and demanded money, prompting Smith to kneel down to shield his son. Smith, a Right-to-Carry permit holder, handed the man a small amount of money then drew a pistol, at which point the criminal retreated. But during his escape, the robber turned and pointed his gun at Smith, prompting Smith to shoot the criminal. Police captured the wounded robber a short time later after he sought medical treatment at a local hospital. Smith and his son were not harmed during the incident and police have not charged the armed citizen.

    • JeffH

      January 8, 2013

      Mother of two protects children from home invader, The Atlanta Journal Constitution, Atlanta, Ga. 01/04/13

      A mother of two was home with her children in Loganville, Ga. when she heard a repeated knocking at the door. Concerned, the mother called her husband, who told her to “get the kids and hide.” The mother complied, retrieving a gun and taking her children to a crawlspace. By the time they were hidden, the criminal who had been knocking at the door had made it inside the house and was making his way towards the closet where the family was hiding. The home invader opened the crawlspace door, at which point the mother fired six shots from a .38-caliber revolver, striking the criminal five times. The mother kept the revolver trained on the home invader as he exited the house. Once outside, the criminal tried to flee in his vehicle, but only made it a short distance before he was captured by police. Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman commented that “When you got five bullets in you, it makes you kind of disoriented.” The proud husband praised his wife following the incident, stating, “My wife’s a hero… She protected her kids. She did what she was supposed to do.”

      • Mary

        JeffH, no one is suggesting that guns be taken away from responsible adults. And unfortunately, not even the assault weapons are being taken away, just asking people to register them and then no more be sold. WE ALL want our guns to protect ourselves and families but the majority of people asked, want to get rid of assault weapons. That is not the same thing as taking away all guns and leaving people without protection. Most of those you mentioned, protecting themselves and winning ,were not using assault weapons.

      • JeffH

        Mary, don’t patronize me or the 2nd Amendment. I know what an assult weapon is, you obviously don’t.

        Yes Mary, there are many powerfull people in and out of our government that would like nothig more than to take every gun away from every law abiding citizen. You are believing what the anti-gun lobbyists are telling you.

        Obama, Feinstein, Bloomberg, Brady, Schumer, Cuomo, Emmanuel et al would like nothing more than to remove all guns from public use. Yes, that’s right, “ALL” guns…except their own guns.

        It’s not about saving “the children”.
        It’s not about reducing homicides.
        It’s not about reducing violence.
        It’s all about the politics of control…control of an unarmed citizenry.

        There are at least 100,000,000+- reasons why there isn’t a frontal push for full scale gun confiscation. Feinstein and Obama know this. They will slowly chip away at the 2nd Amendment thru “common sense” gun regulations until they have such an advantage that they can openly confiscate every law abiding citizens gun. When that happens only the government, the eletists and the criminals will have guns leaving the rest of us defensless to do anything about it.

        NOT ON MY WATCH! ~300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT ASSAULT ANYONE USING ANY FIREARM.

        ~300 MILLION Americans DIDN’T SHOOT anyone AT ALL. Not even by accident.

        Join us in telling them to STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT

        STOP IT

        STOP IT NOW

      • JeffH

        Mary, some comments about the idea that gun confiscation could never happen here in America. It can and has happened.

        You have seen this brand of abuse of freedom in the history books in the pages about days of gun confiscations leading to the terror of Stalin, Mao and Hitler. But you have never in a million years think it could happen in America.
        Well, it can and it did. And it will happen again unless we take action today.
        New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, Police Superintendent P. Eddie Compass unleashed a wave of confiscations with these chilling words: “No one will be able to be armed. We will take all weapons. Only law enforcement will be allowed to have guns.”

        Thousands of firearms were then confiscated from law-abiding gun owners. The police gave no paperwork or receipts for those guns. They just stormed in and seized them.

        Please listen to the story of Marie Galadis, a Baptist Minister, who was left alone to face roving bands of looters, robbers and murderers.

        You never saw this footage and you never will see it on ABC, NBC or CBS. You never will see the photos or read about these crimes in The New York Times, The Washington Post or any of the major dailies.

        The anti-gun media does not want you to see it because it will prove that everything they have been saying about how politicians and bureaucrats can be trusted to protect your Second Amendment rights IS A LIE.

        Brutally Disarmed – Take a look at the unbelievable violence caught by Fox News when police entered the residence of Patricia Konie, and demanded that she evacuate her home.
        You will see them body-slam this tiny woman into a wall, sending dishes flying, then confiscate her firearm and drag her from her home.

        Worst of all, Patricia’s gun is still locked away in Mayor Ray Nagin’s trailers. And just recently, Patricia was robbed in her home! For Patricia and every other gun owner, we need to fight back NOW.

        Realise that ~300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT ASSAULT ANYONE USING ANY FIREARM.

        ~300 MILLION Americans DIDN’T SHOOT anyone AT ALL. Not even by accident.

        Join us in telling them to STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT

        STOP IT

        STOP IT NOW

        Support the NRA, GOA, SAF and all organizations that are dedicated to protect your Constitutional rights and the 2nd. Amendment.

      • JeffH

        The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4

      • sam1966

        Well said fellow patriot. Mary is just a bleeding heart trying to stir the waters. She’s just a troll. Here is what a South Carolina County Sheriff says about these new gun laws:

        http://www.conservativebyte.com/2013/01/cnn-obama-can-ignore-the-law/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “Power always thinks that it is doing God’s service when it is violating all of His laws.”

        John Adams

    • JeffH

      November 29, 2012

      Jewelry store owner combats violent criminals, KGO-TV, San Francisco, Calif. 11/26/2012

      Two masked and armed criminals entered Joyeria Vanessa jewelry store in San Jose, Calif. and demanded money from the owner. In response, the owner retrieved a pistol and fired at the robbers. The shots missed, but sent the criminals fleeing to a nearby getaway car. Police made clear that the woman had a right to defend herself

    • JeffH

      November 27, 2012

      Woman defends son and home from burglar, The Joplin Globe, Joplin, Mo. 11/21/12

      A woman was at home with her three-year-old son in Wyandotte, Okla. when she was awakened by a knock on her door. The homeowner peered outside, noticed a strange man at her door and retrieved a .22-caliber pistol. The man then began breaking into the home, making it through one of two locked doors; at which point the woman opened the inside door and fired a shot at the criminal. The would-be burglar fled to a waiting getaway car and proceeded to cross the state line into Missouri. After viewing surveillance video of a nearby road, Missouri police were able to determine the criminal’s whereabouts and make an arrest.

    • JeffH

      October 23, 2012

      12-year-old girl defends herself from home invader, The Oklahoman, Oklahoma City, Okla. 10/19/12

      12-year-old Kendra St. Clair was at home alone in Durant, Okla. when a man began banging on the front door. Frightened, Kendra called her mother at work, who told her to retrieve a .40-caliber pistol and to hide in the bathroom closet. Kendra complied, and after calling 911, heard the criminal break through a back door. After about six minutes inside the home, the intruder made it to the bathroom closet where Kendra was hiding. As the home invader attempted to open the closet, Kendra fired at the criminal, striking him and causing him to flee. Police captured the intruder a short time later and transported him to a hospital. Following the incident, Kendra’s mother told local media about how her daughter was coping, stating, “She’s a trooper… She’s staying strong and confident. She’s handling this much better than I would have.” When asked about her experience, Kendra told reporters, “I kept my head on straight.”

    • JeffH

      August 14, 2012

      71-year-old Right-to-Carry permit holder defends elderly women, The St. Louis Post-Dispatch, St. Louis, Mo. 08/12/12

      A group comprised of one 71-year-old man and three elderly women were leaving the Grand Masonic Hall in St. Louis, Mo. when an armed robber approached them and demanded their valuables. The group complied with the robber, who walked up the street with the items, but then turned again towards the group. The elderly man, a Right-to-Carry permit holder, drew a gun and fired at the criminal, causing the criminal to return fire then flee.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Thanks JeffH.

    • JeffH

      June 28, 2012

      Husband and wife protect family from armed intruder, The Oakland Tribune, Oakland, Calif. 05/25/12

      A husband and wife were at home asleep with their three young children in their Santa Rosa, Calif. home when the family dogs alerted them to an intruder. The wife went to investigate and found a burglar outside dismantling a window screen in an attempt to get into the home. The wife alerted her husband, who retrieved a gun, confronted the criminal and detained him until police could arrive. When police took the burglar into custody they discovered he was carrying a 2-foot length of pipe, for which he was charged with being in possession of a dangerous weapon.

      • Robert Smith

        Lots of good reasons to allow good citizens to carry firearms.

        Thanks,

        Rob

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        New Year’s Eve, 2012

        18-year-old Sarah McKinley of Oklahoma City. On New Year’s Eve, the young man, 24 year old Justin Martin wanted in to Sarah’s house. Justin was accompanied by a friend, Dustin Stewart and he had a 12 inch long hunting knife. Fortunately Sarah’s doors were locked as the TWO MEN TRIED TO ENTER THE HOUSE, but could not. Sarah put a baby bottle in her son’s mouth, grabbed her 12 gauge shotgun and called 911. Eventually, Martin KICKED IN SARAH’S DOOR AND WENT AFTER HER WITH THE HUNTING KNIFE in his hand. In an act of self-preservation, Sarah FIRED HER 12 GAUGE SHOTGUN, dropping Martin in his tracks. Martin’s accomplice, Dustin Stewart fled the scene, but later turned himself in to police. When the police finally arrived they found Martin lying dead. AFTER EXAMINING THE EVIDENCE OF THE DOOR KICKED IN, THE KNIFE, AND THE 911 CALL, THE POLICE HAVE RULED THE SHOOTING WAS A JUSTIFIED USE OF DEADLY FORCE IN SELF-PROTECTION.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        GUNS SAVE LIVES

        January 03, 2011 – A 14-year-old boy home ALONE WITH HIS SISTER shoots a home intruder. WRAL has the 911 call.
        youtube.com/watch?v=IrESAKfGmmM

        July 12, 2012 – FL Elderly Man Saves a Cafe Full of People By Shooting Gun-Wielding Robbers
        http://www.mrctv.org/node/115057

        May, 2010, Seattle suburb, WA – An elderly 76-year-old Army veteran, a homeowner, shot an intruder who attacked him inside his home. The intruder hit Vern in the head and nearly killed him. Vern shot the suspect in self-defense. Vern suffered a head injury. He was treated and released from Snoqualmie Valley Hospital.

        youtube.com/watch?v=V5hhYzu0C5A&list=PLT_-h-k1p7sODhRwVqIwokdXD9ukHeAXq&index=13

  • James

    Obama,Removed the American Flag from AirForce One, He just gave 20 F-16 Fighter Jets as a gift to the Muslim Brotherhood-led country. This is wrong! He should not reward them with gifts for their bad behavior. He is sucking up. This is his roots (Muslim) Trying to disarm America, taking freedom away a little at a time.You people talk about Bush, maybe he wasn’t the best president but he didn’t go to war by himself, the senate went along with the intelligents report. Guess who was in the senate that voted…HILLARY, John Kerry, just to name a few. At least Bushis a good old American Boy!! Obama is a wolf in sheeps clothing. People will fing out but way too late. You had better put your politics aside and wake up.If Obama is stopping waste I would like to know where. He has made more debt than any president in history. Check it out!!

    • JeffH

      Correction: Four F-16′s not 20 and Air Force One still has the American Flag on it.

      Bush was another puppet and an elite liberal big government Republican aka RINO. He just seemed better than Obama because he wasn’t a smack talker. Obama is also a puppet and is a Marxist trained radical and a former Chicago commuity organizer. He’s now the community organizer in chief and still a liar.

      • JeffH

        James, I want to apologise on the F-16 issue. You are correct in that the US has promised Egypt 20 F-16′s although only 4 have been delived.

    • Robert Smith

      James, you really shouldn’t pass on stuff that is complete garbage.

      No, President Obama did not take the American flag off Air Force One.

      The American flag was removed from his campaign jet because it was a trademark of the plane’s originator, North American Airlines.

      McCain did the same thing on his camapign airplane.

      Rob

  • James

    ibcamn and Bill ——you are so right.

  • James

    Obama signs executive orders and goes against the constitution. He needs to be held accountable for these actions!!! We as americans need to up hold our standards and the constitution.

    • JUSTIFIED

      A viable and properly vetted candidate for President of the United States of America must be a “Natural Born Citizen”. Most are ignorant of what that term really means legally. It means that the candidate must be born to a Father who is a legal citizen of this Nation. If you don’t believe me, research it in the Federalist Papers that contextually document the reasoning of the authors that framed our Constitution. Obama is therefore technically and legally an illegitimate President. His latest provided birth certificate is known by experts to be a forgery, yet he has been sworn into office twice, by a Supreme Court Judge. Evidently, Laws are subjectively open to interpretation and selective enforcement when the Elites are involved. Government is better than Organized Crime, because you’re not accountable to any higher power, and you’re not punishable. People who seek power are never satiated, and they always abuse what power they do obtain. Sultan Obama is going to turn your Nation into an Islamic Socialist armpit serving the NWO. You must surrender your ammunition and arms to facilitate his “CHANGE”.

      • JeffH

        To be a natural born citizen, both parents must be US citizens, not just the mother, not just the father…but both parents.

      • Robert Smith

        Not quite right, Jeff.

        “In the United States, a person is considered to be born a citizen either due to place of birth within U.S. territorial jurisdiction (jus soli) or through descent from a U.S. citizen (jus sanguinis), or through some combination of those two elements. ”

        For more information you can go to: http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Natural-born_citizen

        Rob.

      • JeffH

        Robert, yes quite right.

        MINOR V. HAPPERSETT IS BINDING PRECEDENT AS TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

        The US Supreme Court first had to determine if Mrs. Minor was a US citizen. The Court’s holding states that she was a US citizen because she was born in the US to parents who were citizens.

        The Court in Minor did make a direct holding that Mrs. Minor was, in fact, a US citizen. The Court established her citizenship by definining the “class” of “natural-born citizens” as those born in the US to parents who were citizens. Then the Court included Virginia Minor in that class thereby deeming her to be a US citizen. And they did this by specifically avoiding the 14th Amendment and by specifically construing Article 2 Section 1.

        …the Supreme Court in Minor stated their holding as to the citizenship of Mrs. Minor (and therefore as to all women and men):

        “The Fourteenth Amendment did not affect the citizenship of women any more than it did of men. In this particular, therefore, the rights of Mrs. Minor do not depend upon the amendment. She has always been a citizen from her birth and entitled to all the privileges and immunities of citizenship. The amendment prohibited the state, of which she is a citizen, from abridging any of her privileges and immunities as a citizen of the United States, but it did not confer citizenship on her. That she had before its adoption.”

        It’s important to note that the Supreme Court in Minor did not hold that all women born in the US were citizens. Only those born to citizen parents in the US were deemed to be citizens by the Court in Minor.

        Since the Court was not required to construe the 14th Amendment – as to Mrs. Minor’s citizenship – the Court refrained from doing so. Instead, the Court construed Article 2 Section 1 as an independent ground by which the Court determined that Mrs. Minor was a natural-born citizen since she had been born in the US to parents who were citizens.

        The court added that “Additions might always be made to the citizenship of the United States in two ways: first, by birth, and second, by naturalization. This is apparent from the Constitution itself, for it provides that ‘No person except a natural-born citizen or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of the Constitution shall be eligible to the office of President,’ …

        “The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens. “

      • sam1966

        “The natives, or natural born citizens, are those born in the country , of parents who are citizens.”

        Emmerich de Vattel
        The Law of Nations

        *Needs to be both parents Rob. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

  • Strongman

    Great video!! Hahaha!!

  • jopa

    My my my all these negative comments about our President when the country is beginning to flourish again.Time to pull your head out folks and take a look at the stock market going into record territory, the job numbers are looking better, the economic outlook is strong for the country.Companies are beginning to hire, jobs are coming back to America, the Iraq war is over, Usama Bin Laden is dead, the American auto industry responsible for hundreds of thousands of jobs is back and we will be out of Afghanistan soon.This is just a partial listing of the great things that have happened since we were blessed with our current administration and I know things will just keep getting better.I know deep down in your hearts you know I am right on this , and if not you should go for a mental evaluation.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      LaLa Land keeps adding dunce inhabitants to its land of illusion and never seems to be overcrowded. How do you dunces do it?

      • Robert Smith

        Very simple Nadzieja…

        Look at the employment numbers, housing starts, and all the other good stuff going on.

        Remember, Osama is dead and GM is alive.

        Rob

    • Freedom

      Birth Certificate? Just print one up for the occasion.
      GM back building autos? Amazing how we can give them money to do that to charge more their product that has all the components made in China.
      The war is over in Iraq, it’s now in Ahghanistan, but we will be getting out of there soon, next stop Iran, or some other middle eastern nation that oil.

  • Yankee

    Feinstein got her?? full of crap!

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

    Hoplophobia, n. Irrational, morbid fear of guns (c. 1966, coined by Col. Jeff Cooper, from the Greek hoplites, weapon; see his book Principles of Personal Defense). May cause sweating, faintness, discomfort, rapid pulse, nausea, sleeplessness, nondescript fears, more, at mere thought of guns. Presence of working firearms may cause panic attack. Hoplophobe, hoplophobic.

    Hoplophobes are common and should never be involved in setting gun policies. Point out hoplophobic behavior when noticed, it is dangerous, sufferers deserve pity, and should seek treatment. When confronted about their condition, hoplophobes typically go into denial, a common characteristic of the affliction. Sometimes helped by training, or by coaching at a range, a process known to psychiatry as “desensitization,” a useful methodology in treating many phobias.

    Hoplophobic behavior is often obvious from self-evident irrational responses to real-life situations, and is frequently seen in the news media and public debate. When a criminal commits a crime using a gun, hoplophobes often seek to disarm, or make lists of, innocent people who didn’t do anything, a common, classic and irrational response.

    The idea of creating an enormously expensive government-run 90-million-name database of legitimate gun owners — which by definition would not include armed criminals — is a prime example of an irrational hoplophobic response to the issue of crime. How writing your name in such a list would help stop crime is never even addressed.

    An effort is underway nationally to have hoplophobia recognized in the DSM, the official directory of mental ailments. Resistance from elements in the medical profession suggest this may be quite difficult, but that does not reduce the importance of recognizing a widespread, virulent, detrimental mental condition commonly found in the populace. The actual number of undiagnosed hoplophobes is unknown, but believed to be in the tens of
    millions.

    • Robert Smith

      By your logic homophobics should have absolutely no say in gay rights.

      Thanks for that insight of how the right wing works. I’m looking forward to them dropping out of the marriage equality debate (although I doubt they will for some reason).

      Rob

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Robert: By your logic homophobics should have absolutely no say in gay rights.

        Would that be “Natural” or “Legal” rights, Robert? “Natural rights” are rights not contingent upon the laws, customs, or beliefs of any particular culture or government, and therefore universal and inalienable. In contrast, “legal rights” are those bestowed onto a person by a given legal system.

        Homosexuals already had/have all the same civil rights as anyone else. What you mean to say is, “privileges”? Of course, you’re going to mention “gay-marriage” which is an issue of “recognition”, not necessarily an issue of “civil-rights”. But, and the way things are going, it won’t be long before “same-sex-marriege” will be recognized as a legitimate-union, in par with same-sex. So be patient, Robert, you’re day is coming. Btw, have you picked a dress yet? Just kidding…

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

    LISTEN TO THE GOOD DOCTOR:

    Firearms instructor and Ph.D. psychologist Dr. Bruce Eimer
    expands on the hoplophobia epidemic the nation is suffering under:

    As a psychologist, I have been treating people with the emotional disorder of phobias for over 30 years. Phobias are emotional disorders characterized by an irrational fear of specific situations, activities or objects. They all have an underlying psychodynamic mechanism.

    Weapons phobias originate typically in childhood as a result of traumatic experiences that lead the afflicted individual to feel markedly vulnerable around knives, guns, sticks, etc. They do not necessarily stem from the phobic person’s being a victim of an assault although in many instances that is the case. Often, hoplohobics were abused emotionally and/or physically as children.

    As a result of their fears of annihilation, they feel vulnerable and angry. They both fear others and themselves such that if they were to lose control, they would be a menace too. The adult rationalization defense mechanism makes it safer to displace these fears on to an inanimate object such as a gun. Hence, the psychological unconscious really believes that guns have agency and kill. The idea of factoring bad people into the equation: gun + bad person = destruction does not occur to the psychological unconscious. It is too threatening to the psychological unconscious. It’s less threatening CONSCIOUSLY to blame problems on inaminate objects.


    A reader writes — Dr. Eimer, Thank you for the “Gun Therapy” article in the July 2010 Concealed Carry Magazine; I had never before made the connection between hoplophobia and projection. It’s obvious enough that some people are terrified of firearms and some are terrified of anyone having firearms but it never crossed my mind that someone would be terrified that they themselves could have access to firearms! –MM

    Bruce N. Eimer, Ph.D.
    NRA Certified Law Enforcement Firearms Instructor
    Affiliate Instructor, Defense Training International, Inc.
    Utah Concealed Firearms Certified Instructor
    NRA Life Member
    Column Editor for “Concealed Carry Magazine”
    Board Certified, Licensed Clinical Psychologist

    Chief Firearms Instructor, Personal Defense Solutions, LLC
    P.O. Box 6
    Huntingdon Valley, PA 19006
    Tel: 215-938-7283 Fax: 215-947-7860
    Email: dr.eimer1@comcast.net
    Company Website: PersonalDefenseSolutions.net
    Blogs: PersonalDefenseBlog.com GuideToHandguns.com
    Check out our DefensiveHandguns.com Discussion Forum.
    Sign up for FREE access to Dr. Eimer’s Concealed Carry Information Arsenal: PersonalDefenseSolutions.net/mailinglist.htm

    This last point is an important one, typically missed in literature on the subject, and first brought to my attention by a person suffering from hoplophobia. His greatest fear was that he might gain access to a firearm, and would not be able to control himself for it.

    Like the roiling self-destructive urge to throw yourself off the edge of a high place, and the love-of-life sanity that prevents you from doing so, hoplophobes lack certain mental stability and capacity to act rationally around guns that most people innately have. A hoplophobe fears, and actually might, grab an accessible gun and either blow their own brains out or begin shooting wildly at their surroundings. “The gun made me do it,” they fear and believe, fantasizing their own control of themselves away to an inanimate object, and denying any responsibility for their own actions. They project this lack of control they feel onto others. Hence, an overwhelming dread of the idea that people are out there in the world, with arms either tucked safely away at home, or safely carried on their persons. To a hoplophobe on the precipice of acting out a mortal fantasy, that’s anything but safe.

    This fear leads many to political activism, in the vain hope of banning guns for everyone, so their own morbid fantasy cannot be realized. It is irrational of course, because even a total ban on guns in this country would leave all the rest of the world’s gun makers in business. All the world’s criminals would remain fully armed, all the world’s armies and political forces would hold all the guns they could ever possibly want. Hoplophobes should be no more involved in setting gun policy than any other phobic person should be materially involved in the subject of their fears. Hoplophobes deserve pity, sympathy, and
    need treatment, not statutes. –Alan.

    http://www.gunlaws.com/GunPhobia.htm#Eimer

    • Robert Smith

      Very interesting read.

      Now, for the fun of it read it again. Instead of “hoplophobia” insert “homophobia.”

      As George T. would say, “Oh myyy…”

      Rob

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Robert: Instead of “hoplophobia” insert “homophobia.”

        What are you saying, Robert; that anti-gun advocates are homophobes? Hmm, you might be on to something there…what better cover for Conservative-homophobes to use than to masquerade as anti-gun, Liberal-hoplophobes. You’re a genius, Robert!

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

    “You don’t need to have a gun; the police will protect you.”

    “If people carry guns, there will be murders over parking spaces and neighborhood basketball games.”

    “I’m a pacifist. Enlightened, spiritually aware people shouldn’t own guns.”

    “I’d rather be raped than have some redneck militia type try to rescue me.”

    How often have you heard these statements from misguided advocates of victim disarmament, or even woefully uninformed relatives and neighbors? Why do people cling so tightly to these beliefs, in the face of incontrovertible evidence that they are wrong? Why do they get so furiously angry when gun owners point out that their arguments are factually and logically incorrect?

    How can you communicate with these people who seem to be out of touch with reality and rational thought?

    One approach to help you deal with anti-gun people is to understand their psychological processes. Once you understand why these people behave so irrationally, you can communicate more effectively with them.

    Defence Mechanisms

    Projection

    About a year ago I received an e-mail from a member of a local Jewish organization. The author, who chose to remain anonymous, insisted that people have no right to carry firearms because he didn’t want to be murdered if one of his neighbors had a “bad day”. (I don’t know that this person is a “he”, but I’m assuming so for the sake of simplicity.) I responded by asking him why he thought his neighbors wanted to murder him, and, of course, got no response. The truth is that he’s statistically more likely to be murdered by a neighbor who doesn’t legally carry a firearm and more likely to be shot accidentally by a law enforcement officer.

    How does my correspondent “know” that his neighbors would murder him if they had guns? He doesn’t. What he was really saying was that if he had a gun, he might murder his neighbors if he had a bad day, or if they took his parking space, or played their stereos too loud. This is an example of what mental health professionals call projection – unconsciously projecting one’s own unacceptable feelings onto other people, so that one doesn’t have to own them. In some cases, the intolerable feelings are projected not onto a person, but onto an inanimate object, such as a gun, so that the projector believes the gun itself will murder him.

    Projection is a defense mechanism. Defense mechanisms are unconscious psychological mechanisms that protect us from feelings that we cannot consciously accept. They operate without our awareness, so that we don’t have to deal consciously with “forbidden” feelings and impulses. Thus, if you asked my e-mail correspondent if he really wanted to murder his neighbors, he would vehemently deny it, and insist that other people want to kill him.

    Projection is a particularly insidious defense mechanism, because it not only prevents a person from dealing with his own feelings, it also creates a world where he perceives everyone else as directing his own hostile feelings back at him.

    All people have violent, and even homicidal, impulses. For example, it’s common to hear people say “I’d like to kill my boss”, or “If you do that one more time I’m going to kill you.” They don’t actually mean that they’re going to, or even would, kill anyone; they’re simply acknowledging anger and frustration. All of us suffer from fear and feelings of helplessness and vulnerability. Most people can acknowledge feelings of rage, fear, frustration, jealousy, etc. without having to act on them in inappropriate and destructive ways.

    Some people, however, are unable consciously to admit that they have such “unacceptable” emotions. They may have higher than average levels of rage, frustration, or fear. Perhaps they fear that if they acknowledge the hostile feelings, they will lose control and really will hurt someone. They may believe that “good people” never have such feelings, when in fact all people have them.

    This is especially true now that education “experts” commonly prohibit children from expressing negative emotions or aggression. Instead of learning that such emotions are normal, but that destructive behavior needs to be controlled, children now learn that feelings of anger are evil, dangerous and subject to severe punishment. To protect themselves from “being bad”, they are forced to use defense mechanisms to avoid owning their own normal emotions. Unfortunately, using such defense mechanisms inappropriately can endanger their mental health; children need to learn how to deal appropriately with reality, not how to avoid it.

    (This discussion of psychological mechanisms applies to the average person who is uninformed, or misinformed, about firearms and self-defense. It does not apply to the anti- gun ideologue. Fanatics like Charles Schumer know the facts about firearms, and advocate victim disarmament consciously and willfully in order to gain political power. This psychological analysis does not apply to them.)

    Identity as Victim

    If I were to summarize this article in three sentences, they would be:

    (1) People who identify themselves as “victims” harbor excessive amounts of rage at other people, whom they perceive as “not victims.”

    (2) In order to psychologically deal with this rage, these “victims” utilize defense mechanisms that enable them to harm others in socially acceptable ways, without accepting responsibility or suffering guilt, and without having to give up their status as “victims.”

    (3) Gun owners are frequently the targets of professional victims because gun owners are willing and able to prevent their own victimization.

    Thus the concept of “identity as victim” is essential. How and why do members of some groups choose to identify themselves as victims and teach their children to do the same? While it’s true that women, Jews, and African- Americans have historically been victimized, they now participate in American society on an equal basis. And other groups, most notably Asian-Americans, have been equally victimized, and yet have transcended the “eternal victim” mentality.

    Why, for example, would a 6’10″ NBA player who makes $10 million a year see himself as a “victim”? Why would a successful, respected, wealthy, Jewish physician regard himself as a “victim”? Conversely, why might a wheelchair bound woman who lives on government disability NOT regard herself as a victim?

    I would argue it’s because the basketball player and the physician believe that their identities are dependent on being victims – not because they have actually been victimized, but because they’re members of groups that claim victim status. Conversely, the disabled woman was probably raised to believe that she is responsible for her own success or failure.

    In fact, many people who have been victims of actual violent crime, or who have survived war or civil strife, support the right of self-defense. The old saying is often correct: “a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged.”

    From my observations, pro-victimhood is a feature of all of the anti-gun special interest groups, not just the ones mentioned here. Every organization that supports gun control apparently wants its members to be helpless, terrified and totally dependent on someone else to control every aspect of their lives. It doesn’t matter whether it’s a religious, racial, ethnic, political, social, or charitable group. From Handgun Control, Inc. to the Anti- Defamation League to the Million Mom March, they all want you to live in fear. In this scheme, soccer moms are “victims” just as much as are inner-city minorities.

    more: http://www.gunlaws.com/Hoplophobia%20Analysis.htm

    • Karolyn

      I have to say that I have only one time in my life felt such rage that I could hurt somebody, and that was when I was around 12 years old, and my brother had done something to provoke me. You know, there really are people who don’t get those feelings. In adulthood, I have never even used the word “kill” regarding another human being.

    • Robert Smith

      ““If people carry guns, there will be murders over parking spaces and neighborhood basketball games.””

      If someone wants a parking space enough that they are willing to pull a gun to get it I’m pulling out as fast as I can, even if I’m armed too. For those who stick around for a shoot-out, I say let ‘em (with the caviat that nobody else get hurt, which sadly wouldn’t be the case so another solution must be found).

      But, my attigude is: Evolution in action. It will show up for a few years but it will settle down.

      After all, except in movies of the “wild west” there weren’t that may irresponsible gunfights.

      Take the typical movie scene where a dozen guys come off the trail with pockets full of money and ride through town shooting. Didn’t happen. If it did every store owner, father, husband, brother, and a few wives, mothers, and sisters would be shooting back at the out of windows making sure those idiots never shot up another town.

      Rob

    • Freedom

      If you don’t have to have a gun and the police will protect, what protects you against the police?

  • concerned citizen

    The way Fienstein handles a firearm she should not be allowed to have a permit much less make up rules for me .

    • Freedom

      Is Feinstein a homophobe or a hoplophobe? She wants to do away with guns, but she carries a concealed weapons permit. That is like saying Let’s get rid of knives and use bats instead.

    • Freedom

      Let’ take away all the guns, knives, bats, rocks, and anything else that we can hurt each other with, and make things out of nerf material while shooting each other with bubbleguns. That ought to make it a safer world. But, we need to convince everybody else.

    • jopa

      concerned;I haven’t seen Feinstein handling a gun however I have seen people over the years that definitely should not have a gun.The country should have more training for sure.I remember that episode of Sarah Palin out hunting reindeer and there is another one that should not have a gun.I know it was only a TV show but it was so apparent she never held a rifle in her life.They did a fairly good job to make it look somewhat believable to anyone not that familiar with guns.

  • James

    Don’t be fooled background checks are just gun registration. They just try and fool the people.

    • Freedom

      Let me show you my birth certificate I just printed up this morning, it should be dry now.

  • clyde

    gun rights problem? I dont understand GUNS DO NOT HAVE RIGHTS,PEOPLE DO.

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