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Fear And Loathing Of The Tea Party

May 10, 2010 by  

Fear And Loathing Of The Tea Party

With all that’s going on in America and in the world it’s a shame that yet another article defending the Tea Party movement needs to be written. But three incidents over the last couple of weeks prove that the corrupt, unfounded and ridiculous notion that people who oppose the actions of an increasingly fascist regime and a corporatist Congress are fomenting terror continues to gain traction.

First it was an item sent to the website, Patriot Post, from a military source. That source provided a briefing paper for an upcoming exercise at Ft. Knox, Ky., that sought to prepare for a possible protest at the Ft. Knox, United States Gold Depository by “Local Militia Groups/Anti-Government Protesters/TEA Party.”

The paper, entitled “Exercise” and dated April 23, stated:

“TEA Party organizers have stated that they will protest at the Gold Vault at a future date. Mint Police are on a heightened alert status to deal with a large crowd on the grounds. Anti-Government-Health Care Protesters have stated that they would join the TEA Party as a sign of solidarity.

“Threats against the US Bullion Depository and Fort Knox have been made. Type of event is unknown, except that it will be ‘significant.’ The ‘significant’ event is a concern to local and Federal Law Enforcement Organizations, as these groups are armed, have combat training and some are former Military Snipers. Some may have explosives training/experience.”

A follow-up intel update paper, dated April 26, warned of viable threats “against the US Bullion Depository and Ft. Knox.” It stated:

“Many members were extremely agitated at what they referred to as Government Intervention and over taxation in Their (sic) lives. Alcohol use ‘fanned the flames’. (sic) Many Military grade firearms were openly carried. An ad hoc “shoot the Govt. Agent” event was held with prizes (alcohol) given for the best shot placement. Components for bomb making are reported to have been on the site. Some members have criminal records relating to explosive and weapons violations.

“Also (sic)
In defiance to (sic) Regulations, the TEA Party Activists along with Anti-Health Care Demonstrators have stated that they will protest at the US Bullion Depository, ‘Stating that it is their right to demonstrate against the Government for redress of wrongs.’

“Local detention centers are being made ready for mass arrests.”

After Patriot Post’s Mark Alexander wrote about the exercise and posted the two intel updates on his site he was contacted by senior command staff at Ft. Knox. Alexander then wrote:

“There was a security exercise at Ft. Knox this week, but an officer in the security loop altered the scenario ‘in order to make it look more realistic.’ Those alterations were described in my essay, exactly as they appeared. The command staff informed me that the alterations were not approved at the command level and that the individual who circulated the scenario through official channels will ‘receive appropriate counsel.’ I was assured that Command staff would not have authorized such a scenario.”

Alexander also wrote that he removed the two intel reports* from his site at the request of Command staff.

The second incident occurred in Quincy, Ill., on April 28. With President Barack Obama arriving to speak nearby on the subject of Wall Street greed, the Quincy Tea Party was out in force. The gray haired grannies and grandpas were all ramped up and armed—with signs and a bullhorn or two—to protest the president’s visit. While they stood peacefully on the sidewalk, a police riot squad—decked out in helmets with face masks and other heavy protective gear—marched in lockstep in the street in front of them, ordering them back on the sidewalk. It was an obvious—and utterly ridiculous—attempt at intimidation from the regime.

The third was a quote by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg in the days after a car bomb was found and defused in Times Square. Rather than point the finger toward the obvious choice—Muslim extremist followers of radical Islam—Bloomberg told CBS’s Katie Couric: “If I had to guess—25 cents—this would be exactly that, somebody home-grown, maybe a mentally deranged person or somebody with a political agenda that doesn’t like the health care bill or something. It could be anything.” [Emphasis added]

This is how the regime quashes dissent. It started as soon as the Tea Party began to grow a little more than a year ago, with those who head up the regime calling Americans names like Nazi, un-American, radical and dangerous. Leftist groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center (better described as the Southern Preposterous Lie Center) used their typical tactics of linking Tea partiers with Skinheads, the Ku Klux Klan and the militia movement.

The sycophantic Obama-fawning media followed suit by associating a disgusting homosexual practice called tea-bagging with people who were exercising their uniquely American right of free speech and peaceful assembly. (If you need to find out what tea-bagging is, Google it.)

These terms and messages spread through the blogosphere and are now in common usage by liberals and progressives.

Using such derogatory terms about their fellow citizens provides leftists, progressives and fascists an air of superiority. It allows them to dehumanize those they disagree with, which then gives them the justification to oppose them. But in doing so they only belittle themselves. They show themselves as devoid of morals, ideas and class—without the ability to engage in rational discussion.

Much like when the President—with his smug elitist arrogance—told an audience: “So I’ve been a little amused over the last couple of days where people have been having these rallies about taxes. You would think they would be saying thank you.”

Not hardly, Mr. President. Not hardly. And you are not so dumb that you don’t know why they’re protesting. And we know why you, your fawning media acolytes and the elitist corporatist elected class in Washington (from both the Left and Right and hereafter known as the collective “They”) treat Tea partiers with such arrogant disdain.

They do it because They fear the Tea Party protestors are a threat to their power. They understand that their policies are opposed by the majority of Americans who have finally… finally awakened to their abuses.

And Tea partiers, They fear you because they understand their big money donations from their corporate sponsors, the illegal votes that community organizations like the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) drum up, and the thuggish activities of the unions will not be enough to overcome your moral drive and determination.

A recent poll by Gallup found that 28 percent of those surveyed identified with the Tea Party movement. That means you number in the dozens of millions—despite the attacks on your movement. Understand that is a large number, no matter what They say. Although Tea partiers skew right politically, its members broke out demographically much like the rest of the U.S.

That means that Tea partiers are husbands and wives, grandfathers and grandmothers. That means Tea partiers are homemakers and business owners. That means Tea partiers are blue collar workers and white collar workers. That means Tea partiers are employed and unemployed. That means Tea partiers are veterans of World War II, Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf Wars, and military operations in between. And it means Tea partiers are self-reliant.

And that’s what They fear. Tea partiers aren’t ready to bow down to the altar of big government like so many of the elitists want and expect… and have sought to foster for these many years.

But if the regime has managed to convince—without any evidence or any instances of violence—even some in the military that it is “realistic” to pose Tea partiers as dangerous and that opposition to a government takeover of the economy and the businesses that made America prosperous is evidence of a crime worthy of imprisonment in local detention centers, then it’s not just the Tea partiers who need to worry.

(Editor’s note: To prove their existence screen shots of the intel papers posted on Patriot Post have been saved, but Personal Liberty Digest will respect command staff’s request that they not be posted.)

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • angel-wanna-be

    We will see how amused the President and his Administration are in November?!? We will see, who will be wearing a smug and arrogant smile when the votes are counted. The Administration can’t get anymore obvious, in trying to stir up trouble, with the wearing of riot gear at a peaceful gathering of Parents and Grandparents voicing dissent at a rally. They are lying in wait to use martial law. In speech and action, it is a continuation of the Hysteria, the progressives breed on all counts.To even further the Obama agenda, This morning as per Fox News, Seniors at a Government owned Nursing Facility, are now, not allowed to to say Grace before partaking in their meals. Silent meditation has apparently taken the place of prayer. America is beginning to look more and more, like a communist country. If I choose to pray, and am openly seen, then this regime may as well ready the jail cell and cock they’re guns, because that’s what it will take to stop me from prayer. This cronyism has got to stop!__GOD BLESS AMERICA, KEEP THE FAITH!

    • William L. Turner

      With all these czars that obalama has appointed to his admistration, you would think that this is ussr. This Anti-American so-called leader has to be stopped. What else do you expect from a muslin?

      • TDMW

        Do you know what muslin is? It’s a kind of cloth! Your brilliance is shining through for all “elitists” (aka – smart, educated people who don’t believe all the lies and deceit being spread about our President.)

        • denniso

          I would just suggest that Bob Livingston read some of the comments on his own site for the past 6 months or so. The vast majority here have sounded like calls for violent revolution against a duly elected president. All the talk of guns and treason and taking back the country and demonizing illegals, liberals and Obama. It’s obvious to most of us that there is a fine line between words used and violent action taken…we’ve already seen some unbalanced people take up violence recently.

          When Michele Bachmann says to her admirers, ‘we’ve got to take them out’…When Palin uses a rifle crosshair on a map to show which politicians to go after…what do we think that means? It’s obvious to anyone willing to be honest. Violent languague can lead to actual violence, pretty simple fact.
          go after

          • timr

            Amen Denniso…….Could you imagine if a group of Black citizens were carrying guns with them, outside of a school where Bush or any white President was…..???….There would have been arrests big time…but it’s okay now, since we have a Black President……..

            Look at these militia groups, and the organizations that are asking for their Country back, and their Liberty back………WE KNOW what they are talking about…..and it’s all about not having a White Male as President………..These people are looking just like Timothy McVeigh……the same rhetoric…….and THAT should concern the American people……….This Country is looking Stupid, because a bunch of hate mongering, red-necks, what to take over this Country……..Message to the Confederacy……YOU LOST………..

          • JeffH

            denisso, you continue to post these rants based on your own inner fears. My God, you constantly accuse the Tea party movement and Republicans of being the violent ones and yet there is not one confirmed violent action that has been proven as a Tea Party action, not one.
            I realize that no one is home at your house, but I also must inform you that nobody is listening to you anymore.

            Remember the Boy Who Cried Wolf, also known as The Shepherd Boy and the Wolf? The moral is stated at the end of the fable as:

            Even when liars tell the truth, they are never believed. The liar will lie once, twice, and then perish when he tells the truth.

          • Average Joe

            denniso says:
            May 10, 2010 at 9:08 am

            Since I have been following Bob’s site for quite some time now (over a year), I have only two questions for you Denniso (or is that Dunnoso?)…Have you ever had real honest to goodness original thought with that brain of yours?….All I have ever seen posted by you is just typical leftwing “talking points”…never any facts to support your position on any issue…which leads to my second question….
            How much are they paying you to come here (and I am sure other conservative disccussion groups as well) and try to rile us up?
            For the record, I normally do not respond to you for these very reasons…You are a paid schill…..as such…you are not worth my valuable time. I will refrain from aknowledging your posts in the future and hope that others do so as well…. (maybe you will go away when you can’t get the desired reations from us….).

          • JeffH

            They’re back…timr and their ilk are on the clock again…

          • Average Joe

            timr says:
            May 10, 2010 at 9:28 am,
            So, if I happen to disagree with Obama or you ….it is because I am racist? I have trouble with that term…simply because the only race that any of us belong to is…the human race…if you can’t get past that…then there is no hope for you.

            Usually the person who brings up race in any issue….is the racist.

          • http://PERSONALLIBERTY ODETTE

            THAT MEANS WE ARE TIERD OF BIG GOVERMENT.ITS THE HARD WORKING PEOPLE THAT NEED HELP,NOT THE ILLEGALS, AND THE ONES WITH THEIR HANDS OUT FOR GOVERMENT HELP.

          • skipfoss

            I totally agree with Palin,Bucanan and all other AMERICANS it is time that we take our country back before it is completly taken over by YOUR president this half-breed son of a white trash whore Muslim communist. If you don’t beleive that he is a muslim and a communist read the history of his life he was raised by grand parents that were communist his father was a Muslim and a communist he was raised and taught in a muslm school hewas mentored by adevout communist,he has been a 20yr member of a muslim communist church. All of his czars are communist and all of his programs are communist or fascist in nature .He and his comrades in arms are ready to let all of these wet backs and Jihadist become citizens. This administration and its backers such as the Bilderberg group Tide center, Acorn, Rockefellers and George Soros are all communist and fascist,you are what you run with. As far as being duly elected,HE IS NOT ,he is a Kenian as addmited to by his loud mouth wife on two or more occasions during his campaign. There has not been adisaster or uprising so that he can call for Marshal law so that he can have a reason to call out his brown shirts and confinscate our guns and imprison those that disagree with him. If this keeps up there will be riots and armed rebellion agianst the take over of our nation one industry at a time. He has already given the UN and Interpol the right to come in with out warrants to kick in your door and take your weapons or you fo that matter for what ever reason they come up with,if you don’t beleive me go to the white house site and look up EO-12425. But you Obamabots will not beleive it until you are stand in a line waiting to be tatooed and shoved into an interment camp. As for me I will go down fighting and take out as many as I can which will be plenty,I have several area set up in the mountains where I live stocked with food and lots of ammo”DE OPRESSO LIBRE”

          • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

            That guy who was packing heat outside the rally where Obama was speaking (who had a legal right to do so, by the way) was a BLACK MAN.
            The media cropped the photo to hide his face, and then looked like a bunch of lying fools when the truth came out. Still, it’s not a good idea to take a firearm to a peaceful protest rally. What was he thinking?

          • timr

            Hey EVERYONE ON THIS BLOG………read SkipFoss………He proves my point that racism has bubbled to the surface…………Just read his Timothy McVeigh garbage, and then tell me his words aren’t racist……….I bet SkipFoss is still……..”Dreaming of a WHITE X-Mas…….just like the KKK used to yell out…………

          • Palin12

            timr…do you also go by the name of American Liberal?

          • timr

            A blogger that calls themselves, PALIN12…….is going to question ME……….???….NO, I don’t consider myself a “Liberal”, OR a “Conservative”………but I DO know, that I wouldn’t vote for an idiot like Palin…………

          • angel-wanna-be

            JeffH, WOW, the Libs come out at night, but they’re up and out in force during the day too!____How ya been?

          • JeffH

            angel and Palin, they’re spewing the same old messages we’ve seen for so long now! When they don’t get any arguers, that’s when the ridicule and name calling starts

          • Rick

            the only violence that was ACTUALLY caused was caused by liberals! Check it out. the guy who bit off a person’s finger was a liberal! The person who pushed a man down just because he didn’t agree with him was a liberal! And I could go on and on! To talk about violence (which I am not convinced actually happened) and to ACTUALLY commit violence are two different things. Keep going, liberals! Keep causing violence! It gives conservatives something to fight you with

          • Sidewinder

            Yeah Rick
            Anyone with any doubts should read about Crash the Tea Party. Thats the mentality.

          • DaveH

            Jessica,
            My guess would be that the assault-rifle carrying black man was working for the left. I mean, first of all, like you said, how many people would be so brazen as to carry an assault-rifle to any area where the president was speaking? And exit polls showed 94% of the black voters voted for Obama. So, what are the probabilities that the man was a Conservative? Pretty Slim!
            The Liberals think nothing of helping themselves to our money. What would stop them from Dirty Tricks? Nothing! They have little in the way of morality, which explains why they so fear religion (I am atheist, by the way, but I have morals), so I wouldn’t be surprised at anything they might do.

          • DaveH

            This is how those peaceful Liberals behave:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTCPj6G7044

            This is how it is. We give them free money. They get used to it. They turn on us when we want to stop giving them our money. Like Spoiled Teenagers.

          • crystal.glass

            I’m African American and I disagree with just about everything Obama has done since he was elected. Does this make me a racist also? I also went to a “Tea Party” rally. I didn’t see any of what the media has been portraying the “Tea Party” to be. It was really peaceful and I was surprised to see so many 20-year olds holding up signs. This isn’t an older generation thing at all. Since I actually went to one of their rallies, I guess that puts me in league with Timothy McVeigh.

          • denniso

            Average Joe…in response to your post above, you say Im a paid shill and so you don’t usually read my comments…well, if that were true,I’m not paid enough to read your junk…and who’s forcing you to read anything?

          • MSSouth

            You are missing one major point. This, that you are describing as probable violence to come is seen through the eyes of a liberal. And as we know, that is what happens when liberals demonstrate. Name me one time when a conservative group has met to protest that has turned violent other than when the ranks are infiltrated by liberal goons. Your groups are the violent ones. That is one thing that has bumfuzzled the idiots in D.C. It makes them appear really stupid when the light is shown and all they see are average people standing up for the right to voice their protests.

          • John

            Good lord Deniso, you actually think the Tea Party is advocating actual violence? What say you then about the Hispanic history teacher in L.A. who speaks of “40 million revolutionists north of the border”? Is that not promoting violence? And why isn’t the media bringing that to light? The Tea Party talks of taking back our government through peaceful means, i.e. the ballot box while radicals like that moonbat preach revolution? Which do you consider the greatest threat?

          • denniso

            Why do the rightwingers ‘protest’ w/ guns strapped on? Just to show they can do it legally? No, they’re trying to intimidate people w/ their show of force. Take the stupid guns off, leave them at home and use your intellect in protesting. I’m afraid that to many people, gun waving protests shows a definite lack of a brain.

        • Average Joe

          TDMW says:
          May 10, 2010 at 8:47 am, Never made a typo?…lookie thar (spelled so you can whine some more)…N&M right there next to each other on the keyboard….who woulda thunk?….Mighty small of you there…No argument…but gotta pick at someone just the same eh?…Libbies…..God help us all……

          • timr

            Average Joe……..YES, I do believe that with the election of Obama, some racists have come to the surface…..Do I think all are racists, NO……but you can’t deny things like, carrying Guns outside an elementary school, while the President is speaking outside……You can’t deny, that after only months of Obama taking office, we saw signs that read….”We Want Our Country Back”, and what that meant to people……..And, what about the birthers, and the one’s (on this blog) who are calling him a Muslim, JUST to enrage theyr’e fellow americans, even though they know full well, that he is Christian….These people want to somehow show that Obama is different than most americans…………..And JohnH……..why don’t you tell me, if it’s okay to carry guns outside an Elementary school while the President of the United States is inside…..??……..YES, I admit to being an Obama supporter, but there are some of his policies that I’ve been against……….but you can’t deny, the hatred out there, not to mention the increase in Militia Groups…….AND the fact that Obama received more death-threats, in the first year in office, than the last 10 Presidents received Combined…….that is from the FBI…….Average Joe, and JohnH, wea re NOT losing our country or our Freedom or our Liberty……..Where were you guys, when “W” was tapping your phone calls………???……isn’t THAT talking away your privacy and Liberty…………..??/

          • Average Joe

            timr says:
            May 10, 2010 at 10:07 am,
            Boy, you sure read an awful lot into my post ….
            I don’t recall mentioning anything about guns etc…just about you “rascist” remarks. However, the last time I checked…the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution is still in effect…The right to “keep and bear” arms. The Constituion applies to everyone….equally. That means that you can’t agree to it sometimes and disregard it when you don’t like the implications that may or may not follow.

          • timr

            Hey Average Joe……..if you feel comfortable, at a gathering, when people are carrying side arms, then go ahead and stand next to them if you want………I don’t think that is what the Framers intended……You 2nd Amendment guys have stretched that part of the constitution BEYOND it’s intended meaning………..The Secret Service should feel rightfully nervous, (especially with all of the Death threats against Obama,) when they see people carrying guns to a Presidential speech, or to a SCHOOL…….a SCHOOL, Joe, while the President is inside speaking………….Just NUTS, simply NUTS…………

          • american

            If you can’t see what’s right before your eyes I feel sorry for you. Obama is practising Marcism 101. And how home G.W.Bush gets crap for scanning phone calls for key words to prevent terrorism but Obama can Sh– on our Constitution, push through a health bill without anyone reading the whole thing, have government control our banks (goodbye free trade) and no one has a problem? Don’t you think black panthers outside of voting booths in Phili was a bit much? And isn’t it strange how many more votes there were than voters?
            If it were Al Gore he’d be jumping up and down shouting “No Fair!”
            If you think all the tea party is about is skin heads and guns then you must be a typical, uninformed liberal!
            Read the Constitution, go back and study the history of the Unite States of America and why it was founded and maybe you’ll get it.
            I guess you don’t have any relatives that ever did anything the right way. My great grandparents came into America through the front door, Ellis Island. They wanted to be here, to make something of themselves. They WANTED to learn English (the one common language) Now English as a second language is offered in every school to anyone and they still WON’T learn.
            I’m sick of feeling like I’m visiting a foreign country everytime I see a label on a box or on a sign.
            The U.S.A. is a melting pot of all people. Get that through your thick skull, didn’t you ever watch Saturday morning cartoons?
            I hope enough people can get these Socialists out of office before they can do more damage.

          • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

            My grandfather came from Sicily through Ellis when he was 5 yrs old. My mother was a first gen american. She spoke three lang: English, Spanish and Italian. She refused to teach me anything other than english, She felt that I was an American and English was the only thing I needed to know, she was proud that we were American. We never grew up thinking we were anything but American. We did not even call ourselves Italian American. Italians never went on welfare, we all worked hard for the American dream. Thats why she never could tolerate cubans who came here with their hands out much less mexicans illegally at that. All my grand parents came here legally.

          • Average Joe

            timr says:
            May 10, 2010 at 10:43 am

            An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.
            Robert A. Heinlein

          • Sidewinder

            I don’t see the Marxism, american.

            Some mistake me for a Liberal because I don’t share the right’s hatred for Pres Obama. He is what he is, but so far not as destructive as Pres Bush. Time will tell, he’s not done yet…
            Bush used the Constitution as his personal Prison Honey Pie.

            But I don’t see the Marxism. He’s governing as a corporatist, just like Bush did, although a little more left leaning.

          • http://www.newfederalistpapers.com V.R.B.

            “timr says:
            May 10, 2010 at 10:07 am
            Average Joe……..YES, I do believe that with the election of Obama, some racists have come to the surface…..Do I think all are racists, NO……but you can’t deny things like, carrying Guns outside an elementary school, while the President is speaking outside……You can’t deny, that after only months of Obama taking office, we saw signs that read….”We Want Our Country Back”, and what that meant to people……..And, what about the birthers, and the one’s (on this blog) who are calling him a Muslim, JUST to enrage theyr’e fellow americans, even though they know full well, that he is Christian….These people want to somehow show that Obama is different than most americans…………..And JohnH……..why don’t you tell me, if it’s okay to carry guns outside an Elementary school while the President of the United States is inside…..??……..YES, I admit to being an Obama supporter, but there are some of his policies that I’ve been against……….but you can’t deny, the hatred out there, not to mention the increase in Militia Groups…….AND the fact that Obama received more death-threats, in the first year in office, than the last 10 Presidents received Combined…….that is from the FBI…….Average Joe, and JohnH, wea re NOT losing our country or our Freedom or our Liberty……..Where were you guys, when “W” was tapping your phone calls………???……isn’t THAT talking away your privacy and Liberty…………..??/”

            Timr PLEEEAAASSEEE!!! Stop drinking the kool-aid because it has fogged your brain. Here’s some reasoning beyond your sound bites;

            “We want our Country back” or “Take our Country back”:
            Obama is a liar, plain and simple. He conducted a Campaign to change America, espousing many common themes that Americans agreed with, yet when he took office and even up to this very day, he has leaned so far left that it is surprising that he can walk a straight line.

            “Birthers”:
            The Constitution states very clearly that the President must be a natural born U.S. Citizen. So what happens, some people go and try and check this and are met with a lawsuit by Obama blocking their inquiry that has cost over a million dollars and counting. So I ask you, what is it that the man has to hide?

            “Hate, Death Threats, Etc.”:
            Let’s face it, there are some people out there that don’t use common sense to carry a gun to an event that the President is attending. Most of us know better. As far as hate goes, I HATE the President’s policies and I LOATHE being lied too. Personally, I don’t know Mr. Obama but I understand that he is a very intelligent and personable human being. So in light of that, I could probably be friends with him even though I disagree with him politically.

            Did I vote for him or would I vote for him, HELL NO!!!

            “Freedom”
            Whether you realize it or not, our personal liberties have been under attack for many years. This is plainly a big government thing that both Republicans and Democrats are guilty of. Obama, his Czar’s and Democratic Leadership have taken a quantum leap of relieving us of personal liberties. Mandatory Health Insurance is just the latest of a string of insults to the Constitution and the people that it was supposed to protect. It has been the proverbial “Straw that broke the Camel’s back”

            In closing, I want you to consider following Obama’s advice to graduates last week. Take a look at both sides, not just Fox News. It was an obvious jab but in doing that he probably made the most substantial comment ever. Everyone slants the news to their own way of thinking so get all the sides and make up your own mind! Don’t let the talking heads make up your mind for you!

          • timr

            Hey V.R.B……..I’m not drinking any Kool Aid……….and guess what.???I don’t watch any Cable News, because your’e right, it is ALL slanted Left or Right…………You said that Obama is changing America??…….No V.R.B…..he wants to change what’s wrong with America, but flag-waving Patriots like yourself deny that there is anything wrong with this Country That is called Blind Loyalty………….He lied to you…..are you serious??…….What about Bush lying to the American public about WHY we went into Iraq…………???…….That lie, my friend, got people KILLED, do you understand that???………….what about the 9 Billion $$$ that we lost in Iraq through Haliburton………..Were they being truthful to YOU, V.R.B…..???Obama has proof that he was BORN in Hawaii…….does THAT make him a Natural born citizen……….You know they polled thousands of Americans, and 48% of them, didn’t know that Hawaii was a State………That is how fricken ignorant these people are……………I KNOW you don’t want to be lumped with these people, V.R.B……….I’ll grant you the right to disagree with his Policies……..You’ll be surprised that I have disagreed with several of his Policies………but, as you can see, there is viceral hatred written right in these Posts, and there is the same, when we start questioing Obama’s Citizenship, and we say things like, “We Want Our Country Back”………Guess what V.R.B…??…..these words were uttered 10 fricken days after Obama was elected……..and your’e telling me, that it isn’t about Race………??/………..I have one thing in Common with you………I want to hold our Government accountable and every turn, but I ALSO want to hold the Crooks on Wall Street accountable for almost taking down our Financial system………I don’t hear ANYONE on this Blog, who are willing to go after THAT kind of arrogant POWER………………I respect you views, V.R.B………but please, don’t deny, that there is real hatred out there for this President, and reasons, are Racial………as wells as Policy driven………..Young people voted for this President and, unfortunately, it’s the older people who still control this Country…………Go Bless you, V.R.B……….

        • Bob Peary

          TDMW
          Don’t be afraid of the truth.The biggest lie about Obama is the idea that he is a president for all of america.This guy despises america.He wants to make this a second rate nation.I’ll be damned if we’re going to let him do it!

          • timr

            Bo, Obama is smarter than you the rest of your red-neck “posse”…..and that scares you. So put your guns away and get a Job……….

          • JeffH

            timr, did they teach you to be a racist or is it a natural thing?

          • Jerry W

            to timr:
            My first choice for pres was Cndellsa Rice. I thought that then we could get over the ‘black’ and the ‘woman’ barrier nce ad forall. O was a little happy to see the bama et elected, since that would get rid of the racial barrier – I didn’t realize itwould also take over the studid barrier. If you want a racist, you don’t have to look anyfurther than the bama.

          • DaveH

            timr,
            Yes it would indeed bother me if I thought Obama was smarter than I:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrsBKGpwi58

          • JS

            Bob Peary says:
            May 10, 2010 at 9:19 am
            TDMW
            Don’t be afraid of the truth.The biggest lie about Obama is the idea that he is a president for all of america.This guy despises america.He wants to make this a second rate nation.I’ll be damned if we’re going to let him do it!

            Reply
            Mr Peary, what a fool you are. Stop getting you information from right wing propaganda radio and Fox News. They are experts in deception and half truths.
            If President Obama hated this country why did he start mopping up the mess Bush left as soon as he took office? Why did he go around the world letting many other countries know there was a new administration in town that was not going to berate and degrade their country.

            Why has the respect for this nation all over the world, markedly increased since this president took office. I never saw any celebrations around the world when Bush was elected either time, but there were major celebrations in sighs of relief when Pres Obama was elected.

            Tell me just how the entire world including the overwhelming majority of this country be wrong and you back woods tea people be the only ones right?

            It’s time for you to have a little dose of the truth. The truth is simple.
            (1)The right wingers screwed up big time. As a result America threw them out of power and in the ditch.

            (2) Now they are pissed off as hell because they are out of power. They are using their 91% of radio talk shows to spread every lie and mis-truth possible to infuse the brains of the unlearned and gullible.

            (3) The truth of the matter is they don’t think this president is doing a bad job at all and thats the problem. The better he does the more they try to derail his success, by spreading lies and mis-truths.

            (4) The truth is there is no way there going to get back to making another mess in Washington by telling the truth about this president.

            (5) They are depending on people like you to be fooled and hood winked because they desperately need your vote. Its all about getting back in power. It’s not fun to be out of power. They claim to be the family values, church going crowd, but they never hesitate to lie, twist the truth, and cheat, if it gets them closer to a win.

            The truth has nothing to do with anything. If ling doesn’t work then they will stop at nothing to filibuster (over 130 times) to stall progress. The more the administration accomplishes the worse they look. They are out to save their jobs with all the perks to hell with the country and the citizens. It’s all about getting back in power.

            Where were the Tea people when Bush refused to veto a single pork bill sent to him by his righties the help doubled the national debt. Where were they when Bush crammed through a 750 billion dollar big pharma bill for seniors, with out one dime of it paid for. Your buddies Rush, Hannity Beck, never said a word about it. Where were you tea people
            when Bush was twittling his thumbs for 10 days after Catrina.
            Now Obama is the President he gets hammered by you folks at every turn
            Why? Because he is doing a great job, and thats the worst news the right whack nuts could have.

            You would do well to diversify your news sources, and quit sucking up the lies and lather the whack-nuts want you to believe.

          • DaveH

            Why, JS, do you think your news sources are any more reliable than Fox? I have watched them all, and Fox News wins hands down for giving both sides of the story.
            And you say Beck never said anything about Bush’s reckless spending? That is a lie. It’s typical Liberal Speak. Say anything you please. Don’t bother supporting your misinformation:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv1QXjMbASU

        • StarMind

          Well I am a smart and very educated person and what is obvious to me is the lies that constantly flow from Obama, his administration and the Main Stream Media. It is a shame that a self proclaimed “smart and educated Person” such as yourself has let propaganda rule their minds instead of Truth.

        • Dan

          TDMW,

          You might notice that the M and N are next to each other on the keyboard. The important debate is about liberty and tyranny.

          Elite is not a pejorative term, neither should be elitist. It can be argued that the general populace is not trained to rule and that a ruling class is necessary to optimize order, justice, efficiency, etc. in government. Monarchy was such a system. Royalty was trained and educated to rule. The established Churches (Roman Catholic, Church of England, Lutheran, etc.) were partners with the monarchies in ordering the lives of all subjects. Those who prefer rule by the elite today are Progressives. The Age of Reason and The Enlightenment created the philosophical foundation of Democracy. This form of government calls for the maximization of individual freedom for the citizenry and the minimization of central control. The American Revolution created such a system, which has met with phenomenal success, in my opinion. The Obama administration, in concert with Progressives in Congress and in the court system are trying to transform our government into an oligarchy. The rulers will not be Royal families*, but will still be a ruling class. The ruling class will be composed of academicians, journalists, and advocates of “social justice”. They will be largely educated in the elite universities and will be Progressives.

          Having this magnificent Democratic Republic transformed into a modern tyranny would be the most tragic event in the history of mankind. It would be like painting over the Sistine Chapel ceiling with a nice periwinkle blue. It would be like tearing down the Pyramids to build huge shopping malls. Actually it would be far worse. Too many people have suffered and died fighting tyranny, supporting liberty, for us to allow these sacrifices to go for naught.

          • DaveH

            Well done, Dan.

          • http://www.newfederalistpapers.com V.R.B.

            Dan, Very well said!! Thanks for your insightful contribution.

          • Tone88

            Every post on this blog needs to neal down to Dan’s comment and recognize rationality at it’s core… There are a few here that are trying to dilute common sense – ain’t gonna F’in happen (using my best trailer-trash Thomas Paine jargon).
            Times that try men’s souls…
            Cheers,

          • Lewis Munn

            TimR, and others,

            I do not know what you call “Christian”, but the Bible defines it as someone who follows the teachings of Christ as a true guide, and has turned control of his life over to God. The Bible has the definition in it.

            So many, especially the leftists, seem to define “Christian” in various political ways, which is not what Christianity is.

            Christians do seek the guidance of God in making life’s decisions, and there is plenty of guidance in the Bible. Including that you will know a Christian by his/her actions, avoiding even the appearance of evil, and having Christian love for all.

            You leftists especially need to read the Bible and at least know what a real Christian believes, and does. I personally feel that when anybody uses the word “Christian” for someone who obviously does NOT follow the teachings of Christ, there is little point in listening further; that person who misuses “Christian” has proven he has little knowledge and no credibility in the area in question.

            Does Obama follow Christ’s teachings in the Bible? Does he lie? Does he prefer non-Christian company? Does he love all mankind just as he loves himself, and is he willing to be a servant, or does he raise himself to be a master?

            I think all who use the term, “Christian”, should be enjoined to use it correctly, and carefully, realiizing that this reflects a heart orientation, not external “religious” activities!

            There is a really Christian church that meets in the government buildings; Obama has not been found humbly worshiping with the real Christians in the Capitol buildings, has he?

            Be careful how you judge, that you not find yourself judged and found wanting.

        • http://none John Detwiler

          TDMW you are obviously a dullard (For your enlightenment a stupid person) If you are a Obama suporter and his polisies.

        • 63rdpatriot

          Here is an a idea for you Obama is a duly elected president idiots. Forget the birth certificate. The fact that his father was not a citizen of the US makes him a duel citizen. Why don’t you read your Constitution and see what it says about duel citizens being President? He is not eligible, (or qualified) for that position. Forget the fact that he has spent over $1.7 MILLION tax payer dollars on lawyers to fight showing ANY of his documents. Idiots like you will never look this up for themselves, it just easier to deny it. Forget the fact that McCain was vetted by the congress, but the usurper Obama was not. No room here for conspiracy theories. If you love his socialist ideas so much, why not move to a socialist country. Canada is right next door.

          • timr

            Hey 63rd Patriot…….You give the word Patriot a Bad name……..
            Why don’t YOU leave this Country, and take your red-neck friends with you……because you make me sick with your hatred……..

          • JeffH

            timr “Why don’t YOU leave this Country, and take your red-neck friends with you……because you make me sick with your hatred……..”

            Oh, how we have longed to hear those words. You guys and gals are a hoot! You really made 63rdpatriot look like the idiot didn’t you! Or maybe the other way around. Yeah…the other way around works for me…timr…

          • timr

            I feel sorry for you JeffH……..I really do, the fact that you defend this hatred of Obama………and this constant rhetoric about how Obama is…….”Not One of Us”………..

          • JeffH

            timr, I need not one ounce of pity from you, but I will give some back to you.

            Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
            John Adams

          • DaveH

            Timr,
            Do you ever post any facts? Or are personal attacks all that you can do?

          • EltonJ

            Timr:

            Why are you spewing all the hatred?

          • timr

            And Jana……I have many reltives who served in the Miltary, during WWII, Korea nad Vietnam, so don’t preech to me about Patriotism………..ALL Soldiers do the Job they are asked to do, and if they come back speeking against the policies, they are called un-patriotic………..Guess what, Jana………I serve in the inner city communities helping kids read and write, and help then see that they DO have a Future………So guess what, I’m not leaving, because these kids need me………….Jackie Robinson said, “One’s life can be measured,by how they help people that have less than them”…………Why don’t you walk in the shoes of the pooer peole I work with, and THEN, and only then can you wave your Flag…………

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            timr is a piece of work. It appears as I just read multiple post by him/her, that this person is an uneducated racist that is full of hatred for mankind. This cat needs to move to Canada or Mexico, or maybe even Iran so that those around him will think the same way.

          • libertytrain

            timr – I’m so sorry – if you are helping kids in the inner city to read and write – despite that it is a nice thing to do (I did that in the 60′s), please stop until you learn to spell. We need these kids to learn – I was lucky when I worked with the kids back then – I could spell, read and write.

          • Lewis Munn

            Remember there are a growing number of Muslim Cities ruled by Sharia Law you muslim wanna-be’s can move to and enjoy the full benefits of being a Muslim! I suggest you take your families and go as soon as you can get the visas! And then you can be totally happy.

        • marvin

          TDMW to just say we are spreading lies about your king when this man obama said, i won set down shut up, you disagree we will get in your face, arizona is misguided, people lose there job they cling to god and guns, white cops are raciest, you sir or madam just to keep from saying something i can not take back,you are ether an idiot that can not read writing, or can not hear ether way befor posting get your facts stright befor saying we are spreading lies

        • angel-wanna-be

          TDMW, GEE Willickers, Thanks for the explanation of the Muslim clothe, WHO KNEW?

        • Bekka

          It’s muslim!

        • gregory

          YOU KNOW WHAT HE MEANT JACKASS!!

      • timr

        William, you are proving to other Americans, why your movement IS racist…..Calling our President anti-American…………Why don’t you go to your next KKK meeting, and stop wasting our time with B.S. rhetoric………..The President is a Black man who is smarter than you, and the rest of your angry white bretheren……THAT is what scares you…….

        • mark roberts

          This President is a bafoon! I always heard that NOONE could ever br
          worse than Carter, well Obowma has certainly sucedded in that goal.
          Now he is going to try to put a kook in the supreme court! I do know how to think for myself. I do not need to rely on a teleprompter!
          Our country is headed for the same problems that Greece is now facing.
          The only growth in jobs is in the Govt. sector not the free market system. very soon our paper money which has no value will not be accepted for debts, private or public. I guess that you will blame Bush for that too!

          • timr

            Mark, you must have been in a Coma during the Bush years……..If you can’t see, what these Crooks in the Financial Industry did, then you you are blind as a bat…………

        • CJ

          Timr, how little of you to use the “race card” just because someone disagrees with another. Just because he’s (half) black doesn’t make him right (which seems to be YOUR point). If that isn’t a racist comment, nothing is. The most racist comment ever made is someone couldn’t be racist BECAUSE of their race. Racism is an equal (race) opportunity act. Your posts here continue to prove this point. Good luck fixing the problem with that chip on your shoulder.

          • timr

            CJ, I’m not saying if you disagree with Obama’s policies, that that makes one a racist…….but when you start asking for your Country back, and calling him a Muslim, and asking him for his birth certificate, and you carry guns to the school where he is speaking………YES, I believe his election has brought some racism to the surface……..but to DENY that it has, is simply turning a blind eye to it……………at the same time, you and others, and even myself, have the right to question his policies………but NOT with these signs of hatred and these call-to-arms…….against him………..

          • JLC

            CJ, I am a relative newcomer to this site but, one thing that I have noticed is that, approximately 100% of the time that the “Race Card” appears, it has been introduced from the LEFT wing! The pot calls the kettle “black.” Or, that a racist remark, too?

          • timr

            Why would republicans bring up Race……….???…….Have you seen the racial make-up of the Tea Party????……..The right NEVER wants to bring up Race……..and I agree with an earlier post, who said, that southern Democrats were KKK members too…….He was right, they were……..They were called “Dixie-crats”, and they are all became Republicans after the civil Rights Legislation………..

        • JeffH

          To Bob Livingston, Monday is a new work week and it appears the internet hacks are back to work in force, as usual.

          Thank you for providing this conservative venue. It’s obvious that it is effective based on the “alphabet” posters, off color remarks and ineffective innuendos.

          To all, STAY ON COURSE and keep some powder dry.

        • Doug Rodrigues

          Your racist remark is bogus. For the first time in American history we have a president (small P) who is of the Marxist ideology, who surrounds himself with Marxists, Maoists, and Communists in the form of his “Czars.” Obama said, “You will know my policies by the people I surround myself with.” Okay, I take him for his word: He’s a Communist. What does that have to do with race? You so-called Liberals, i.e. “Progressives,” (read: Communists) don’t have a leg to stand on in defending a subversive president, who functions in concert with a subversive Socialist Democrat Party “leadership.” All of you “Useful Idiots” that Karl Marx mentioned, either are the problem, or have been dupped by the Democrat leadership into slowly overthrowing the Constitution of the United States. Think about it.

          • timr

            Hey paranoid, Doug……….Did you like Bush listening in on your Phone Calls????…….You sound like Senator Joe McCarthy…..(do you want me to explain to you, who he was?)………………

          • kj1

            poor timr … posts a lot of ‘smart’ answers but no real statements of his own … by the way, hussein is trying to figure out how to get around mirand, stick his name next to mccarty’s !!

          • Jana

            People,
            We must realize that timr is only on here to FORCE his Socialistic agenda rants on all of the rest of us.
            He is the racist.
            He is a coward as he is so afraid of the TEA Party movement that he has to come on here and spout his hatred and claims of racism. That is their agenda, and that is what we know them by, their idiotic rhetoric which never changes.

            Those of us on this site who have served our country by putting themselves in harms way, or who have husbands and fathers who have served this great country (so idiots like him can have their say) are told by this loser to leave this country? HA! He hates it so much let him leave.

        • Save America Susie

          TIMR, Its NOT the fact that he’s a black man….He’s just the wrong black man. I would have GLADLY voted for COLIN POWELL, as I RESPECT him very much, but he wasn’t running. At least he EARNED the presidency with his long, and distinguished career. But his wife didn’t want him to run. She wanted him to retire. He was supporting McCain until the last minute and then someone twisted his arm, and suddenly he was an Obama fan over night. I don’t know what happened, but several people seemed to be dropping like flies suddenly and changing their votes. Even McGovern (friend of Hill & Bill) suddenly turned on Hillary, and with tears in his eyes said “I am forced to Vote for Obama.” Forced? I am still thinking on that one. Saw this on TV with my own eyes. I have many Black friends and LOVE them very much! It has nothing to do with whether BO is black. Actually, he is mostly NOT, so you can’t blame it on that. There are several black men in this country who are more qualified & deserve to serve as President MUCH MORE than BO. We never heard of BO until he started running after only a few months in the Federal Senate. Why were not these other Black men selected who had earned that right?

          • timr

            Susie……..have you checked the Senate and the Congress lately…….????……Theyr’e aren’t too many African Americans there……..And to say there were better qualified Blacks out there??……..Let me ask you……..Was Bush, the most qualified White man……..or is Sarah Palin the most qualified White woman????…….or was Clinton, the most qualified White Man???………The fact is, is that Racism HAS bubbled at the surface since Obama was elected…….does that mean it’s a majority, NO……but to deny it, is to deny our American History, and what worries me, susie, is this CRY out there, that we are losing our Country and our Liberty and our Freedoms……..Bush took away many of our Freedoms aftr 9/11……Where were these strict constructionists then????????????

          • Dr Mabuse

            Hey Susie, I understand your comments about Colin Powell…
            but he, like everyone else is not pure as the driven snow.
            He was brought inside by Frank Colluci, (CIA Operative and one of the chief orchestrators of the assasination of Patrice Lumumba). Powell was groomed by Casper the friendly Weinberger, (High potentate of Reagan’s Bechtel Mob, (Hank Schultz, Jim Baker, etc.)
            Lets not forget how he perjured himself in front of the UN in regards to WMD in Iraq. Its not a Black or White thing in regards to the Presidency. You could place Kal-El in the oval office and the results would be the same. (I wonder if the great unwashed would be screaming for his birth certificate?)

          • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

            Susie, you are so right. You don’t have to be a racist to dislike Obama. He is the worst possible choice for America’s first black president. His incompetence is almost painful to watch, and his policies are dangerously naive and counter-productive. I wish Congoleeza Rice had run instead of that old fool McCain. A brilliant, classy, self-made woman, A foriegn policy expert who was admired by our allies and feared by our enemies. Even Allen West would have been a better president. He is a black conservative Republican who is running for U.S. Congress here in Florida. A successful businessman, a staunch conservative, and a decorated Iraq War veteran who has proven under fire that he knows how to take command and deal with terrorists. I hope Florida’s Tea Party Voters will endorse him.
            Dr. Rice and Leutenant West are only two of the many qualified African-Americans who should have been our first black president. Instead, we got an inexperienced community organizer with a radical agenda and questionable sexual orientation, trying his best to drag our nation down into a socialist hell. I am much blacker that he is, and I can’t even stand to look at him anymore.

          • Save America Susie

            Great Suggestion Jessica! Condy Rice for Prez!! Love it! She had a long dedicated career, and was much more qualified than BO. She really served in a real capacity as Secretary of State. Had the experience in foreign relations. But sadly, she is a woman. That is last “glass ceiling” is it not?

          • Save America Susie

            I am sure there are many fine blacks who could take the office of Prez as well and do it justice!! What about Asians? I think they are also in a minority fewer than blacks, and yet there are some good Asians representatives. But the Asians are not playing the race card I notice.
            What about an American Indian President? Its not just about Blacks. We are all equals here. There are many intelligent people in all racial groups. Experience tends to be the issue for me.

          • Save America Susie

            TimR..I am so glad to hear you say that you don’t believe MOST people are racists. I am glad you clarified that for us. Because it seemed like you did. Yes, there are several good blacks who outrank Bo in experience in our nations capitol. As for your question about “W” you ask me, when I found out what “W”s experience for Prez. was, I was surprised! I thought he had a longer career in politics than that. But at least he was Governor, which is EXECUTIVE expereince. Most Presidents are either a Governor or a Senator. But FEW have been just Senators. Some have been less, but they were not the greatest presidents either. At the time, I just voted for the Conservative. After 9/11, I was much more aware of politics. I think a Candidate should have to show dedication & patriotism for his country at the very least. Not disdain for her. As for Palin, she actually had more experience than “W” at that point when McCain picked her. At least she had about 16 years in elected office when McCain chose her to be his VP. She was a Governor. She had a 75% approval rating as Alaska’s Governor. People don’t give her enough credit. They just don’t like her mannerisms. They are afraid of a women president I think too. That is why Hillary was knocked down as well. That is prejudice. Actually Hillary had more experience as Federal Senator than BO. I agree with you, I see also that we are losing freedoms. But we CAN turn this around, I believe.

          • angel-wanna-be

            TimR, I’ve noticed, your spending a hell of alot of time posting, telling all of us on this site, that there is still too much racism in the United States___I think you’ve got the problem with Obama being black!___ENUFF SAID!

        • StarMind

          This is not a matter of race no matter how hard you Socialist try to make it so. It is a matter of the Constitution, Rights and our Freedom all of which are being abused and threatened.
          Our Country is a Republic regulated by the Constitution and not a Socialist Dictatorship as much as you would like it to be. What I find humorous is that you Socialist are trying to label Loyal Patriotic Americans defending the Constitution with terms such as “Nazi” or “Racist” when these are Socialist traits. The Nazi Party was a Socialist Party and sooner or later Socialist always gets around to their Racist Foundations and seeks to filter out the undesirables from society. Hitler the Socialist did a pretty good job of it. What size oven do you take?
          We the People believe that all men are created equal and that is our foundation. We believe in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, we defend them against those who try to destroy them.
          Obama was not Elected according to the Law of the Land, The Constitution. He is not a Natural Born Citizen as required. In order to be Natural Born both of his parents would have to be American Citizens and obviously this is not the case.
          Our Founding Fathers wanted to make sure that the President would not have a conflict of interest in his loyalties and obviously Obama has many. His own words clearly reveal his loyalty is to the Nation of Islam and strongly against American Foundations.
          Obama is not the duly Elected President of the United States and it was an act of Treason for the DNC to have submitted him as a Candidate and against the Constitution for him to be on the Ballot much less Sworn into the Office.

          • timr

            Hey StarMind…….why don’t you get together with SkipCross, and put on your Hoods, and start a Rally……..You both make me sick………..

          • Vicki

            Timr: In a debate are you familiar with argumentum ad hominem?

            If so you will know why most of us have learned to ignore or poke fun of you and yours. Yes I know some conservatives do the same thing and they should stop. Makes it easier for us to spot the liberal folk in the debate.

          • JeffH

            …another wonderful comment by timr…keep those cards and letters coming timr, don’t disappoint…

          • timr

            Vicki…….I don’t let this viseral hatred towards Obama go un-checked……….Questioning his citizenship, and his Religion, and all……….THAT is being done because of his Race, and if you can’t see that, then your’e blind………..Dis-agree with his policies, that is fine……..but this other race-bating hatred is obvious, and I’m not going to turn the other cheek on this…………All of the so called “birthers” have ONE motive…….and You and I know what that is…………so don’t ask me to ignore this, because I’ve seen this stuff before in this Country………….

          • http://koolha12@yahoo.com Sidney Smith

            annoncement and implementation of the National Economic SECURITY AND REFORMATION Act immediately, Joiny resolution sign by congress March 9, 200o, and President Clinton Oct. 19, 2000. see nesara.us, this is major reformation of the United States government Inc. and the united States of America, removes lawyers, Federal reserve Bank, Corporations from the Governments, because the original organic 13th Amendment has never been amendmented to be removed from the U.S. Constitution which as citizen becomes lawyer loss his citizenship and cannot hold any public Office.

          • Jana

            Oooooh,
            and we notice how tmir also has an anger management issue. He is an angry, racist, Anti American who is full of hate. We know them by their very words.! Listen to his rages.

          • timr

            Hey Jana….Yes, I get abgry when I confront racist remarks against our First Black President…………I LOVE this Country, but I don’t turn a Blind eye to waht’s wrong with it…….All of this Fake Patriotism makes me sick……..Karl Rove and his cronies went after Veterans………..Vietnam Veterans who served this Country……….so don’t tell me about anti-Americanism………….Politicians lying about WHY we sent troops into Iraq……….YES, I’m going to question our Government on that………..What do you want me to do, wave a damn Flag and where Blinders, Jana……….????

          • timr

            Hey Jana….Your’e saying that the Katrina victims just sat back waiting for handouts??………..You prove my point. You are just as heartless as your ex-President AND the Mayor AND the Governor………Those people don’t have the economic means to get out……..as they do in Palm Beach………….How about the Nursing home patients who couldn’t get out….Were they just looking for hand-outs……….???……….I hope to God, Jana, that YOU are never in a position, to go through what those people went through, and if feel ok about saying what you said about them, I really feel sorry for you Girl……….I really do…………..

          • Jana

            I am trying this again. I answered timr and it went all the way to the bottom, so I am sending it again.

            May 10, 2010 at 10:58 pm
            timr,

            You aren’t the only one that can get angry, but YOU are the only one here calling racism, YOU are the one using garbage mouth language. YOU are the one who is not willing to have a discussion. It has to by your way and your way only. YOU don’t have to turn a blind eye, because YOU are blind already.

            I guess I don’t have to tell you about anti Americanism because YOU personify it.
            You asked me: and I copied and pasted your own words,

            ………”..What do you want me to do, wave a damn Flag and where Blinders, Jana……….????”
            I want you to act like a decent human being which you haven’t been. I also doubt you even have a flag to wave.

            YOU are a distorter of the truth, and a perverter of the truth. You distorted what I said about Katrina. For your edification I will say again, it was up to the Mayor and the Governor of the State. But YOU want to play the blame game so badly that you are willing to pervert and distort anyones views that you don’t agree with.
            timr, you are pathetic! I feel sorry for you BOY. You act like a BOY.

            You are a normal Socialist who distorts the truth whenever it fits them. Where I come from BOY, we call that telling lies.
            You use the same rhetoric over and over. Some people can at least talk or write without using bad language, but you aren’t one of them. As angel said, YOU NEED TO GROW UP.
            Just because you try to out talk people doesn’t make you right

          • timr

            First of all, Jana……I’m not a boy……and I really don’t care where you come from……..Have you read some of the posts on this blog, and the things said about Obama?…….Do you DENY that racisim exists, and that it’s not a coincidence, that Obama has received more death-threats in his 1st year in office, than the last 10 Presidents combined……???………….Perhaps I’m the only one mentioning race on this Blog, but let’s face it, it’s a Republican Blog, and you know as well as I do, that Republicans NEVER want to talk about race……..Perhaps I’ve been inciteful on my posts, I’ll grant you that, but ALL I see on this Blog, are words like socialism, and Communism…….and Marxism………and How were’ losing our Country and our Liberty, and our Freedoms……..Let me ask you Jana……is THIS intelligent conversation on the issues???……….You’ll be surprised, but during the Bush years, I hated, simply Hated the left going after him personally……..but what’s happening to THIS President is quite different………..Let me ask you…….the Republicans had the White House, and both Branches of the Legislature for 6 years……..6 years……..and what did they accomplish???………..It’s your’e right to vote Obama out of office in 2012, but DON’T deny the viceral hatred toward this guy, that’s out there………..and to the rest of the blogger out there……….to many people RACE is always an issue, on BOTH sides………….Let’s have a conversation without throwing out words like socailism, because they get us NOWHERE………..

          • timr

            And Jana……..Your words were, that Katrina victims had their hand out, saying “feed me”……….Tell me, what kind of compassion is in THOSE Words?????????

          • libertytrain

            timr – Unfortunately the poor people of New Orleans had a real “brilliant” Democrat governor and mayor as well. The Governor REFUSED to ask the President for help. As much as he wanted to, he couldn’t step in without it being legally read as the Federal Government taking control of the State from it’s people, i.e. lousy governor. Don’t you read? And the mayor, God only knows why he kept his people imprisoned in the city when he all those buses, empty, waiting at his disposal to help his people. He and she should be held responsible for the deaths of those who died.

          • Vicki

            Timr says:
            “Republicans NEVER want to talk about race”

            Thats cause there is nothing to talk about. We are all of the human race. All attempts by democrats and or liberals (and the random other also trying to divide us) to race bait republicans fail cause republicans are colorblind.

            As to Obama and speaking only for myself I did not even know what his cultural heritage was till way late in the campaign. I did know I did not like his campaign promises. My favorite one is still “hope and change” conveniently leaving out what the “change” was. Though with his slip of tongue with Joe the Plumber we got to see a glimpse of what he had in mind.

            As to Obama’s citizenship that is not in question. He is from all useful accounts a citizen of the US thru Hawaii. Now is he a natural born citizen I do not know cause the evidence to support or deny this have conveniently been blocked from public access via millions of dollars in lawyers to keep all of the early history of Mr Obama from the public.

            Since it would be trivial for Mr. Obama to release the more detailed birth certificate yet he spends millions to prevent that disclosure I suspect that he is either hiding something interesting or, less likely, is making use of the controversy to help divide Americans.

          • Vicki

            Timr says:
            “All of the so called “birthers” have ONE motive…….and You and I know what that is”

            They want to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America. Silly of them. To actually want to uphold the social contract that formed the greatest nation in the history of the planet.

            I did notice that Mr McCain was thoroughly grilled as to his “natural born” status. Why so shy about grilling Obama? Perhaps you have a “race” problem. Don’t like White Males? Want to divide us into little squabbling groups? Is that your one motive?

          • Jana

            Yes, timr, I did say that they sat back and waited and asked for hand outs. Two years later they were still waiting for others to help them out. I live in an area where they came after Katrina, and lived it. We got in there and brought in food, we took clothes, we even bought clothes to help out, and volunteered many man hours, but when it came to the point after several months where we were able to help them find jobs they started bad mouthing us. Hmmm, were you one of the Katrina victims? They didn’t want to work. Some of them did want to work and we were able to help them, but a lot of them we could never seem to do enough for. We owed it to them was the mentality.

            No timr, I don’t deny racism exists. you have been spouting it so much I know it exists. It shows that you have an agenda, and that is to be an antagonizer.
            Personally I don’t give a flip about anyones color. There are people that I like and people that I don’t like. I have friends that are black and hispanic and Vietnamese and Korean. My next door neighbors are from Mexico here legally, and we all get along great. They are good neighbors.I choose my friends through their personalities and our likes and dislikes and we enjoy each other. There are a lot of caucasions that I don’t care for and have nothing in common with. Whatever color your skin is I know we would never be friends. You are not a nice person and I don’t like you.
            You have come on to this site for the sole purpose of causing trouble.

            You asked,”but ALL I see on this Blog, are words like socialism, and Communism…….and Marxism………and How were’ losing our Country and our Liberty, and our Freedoms……..Let me ask you Jana……is THIS intelligent conversation on the issues???……….”

            If it is something that bothers us, so YES it is intelligent conversation. These things exist and Obama has surrounded himself with self avowed Socialists, and self avowed Communists. Do you bother to listen to Obama when he speaks? If you bothered to pay attention to what he says instead of worrying about the color of his skin you would hear him speaking very dangerously of controlling others speech.

            I do doubt the viceral hatred of “this guy” as you said, what we hate are his scary politics. Socialism, Corporatism, and Communism are closely associated with Obama and since it is the truth, we cannot be scared of the truth. You want to wrap it all up in racism as an agenda, but that IS NOT the truth, it is Obama’s political agenda that bothers us, just like it is your agenda of antagonism that bothers us.

        • skipfoss

          Timr you are wrong your president is not a black man he is a half breed and yes he is anti american and has always been he taught it to all that had any thing to do with acorn and all of mhis marxist buddies like Ayers and his wife and his black muslim brothers in the black panthers like the ones they would not prosicute for standing in front of a polling place. If a white group had done such an act they would have been in jail for life

        • Jack

          The KKK was founded by white Southern Democrats. Harry Truman was a member for a short time; Hugo Black (SCOTUS) was a long time member and, of course, the most famous KKK menber of all – Sen Robert Byrd (D-WV).
          So there…..

          • Lewis Munn

            Before I read the next round, Chester Arthur was one of our acknowledged worst Presidents. It has now, way too late, been proven he had a forged birth certificate, and lied about his nationality.

            I think because he had to lie, and became a very bad president, we need to worry about the precedent and be sure Obama is not a re-run. one bitten, twice shy! It is better to be sure than sorry, but history does repeat itself if we do not believe and learn from the first time around!

            And Chester Arthur is not more than mentioned in passing in most history courses today!

            Obama: I like the idea at first of a Negro President, but the more I heard of his promises and the less substance he gave to them, and the more socialistic he became, the less I trusted him. Now, he is forcing laws through that hurt me as an older person. His mother must have been scared by an older person while carrying him.

            Louisiana. As a ham operator in the past, I was glad the hams turned out to help communications, only to be stiff-armed by the political people there. Hams traditionally are always ready for emergency communications, and this was no exception. When all the area communications were down, writing notes does not work But one very useful, and donated, emergency service, on the site within hours, was rejected by the Louisiana folks, with the judgment from the outside being that they WANTED to make a political issue out of the suffering of their people.

            I saw the same thing in my home town, after 5 tornadoes hit in a line through the county, where the local CD director was a CB operator, and even tho the skip was so bad they had to have cars every mile and relay messages, and the hams had a high location, and radio cars all set up within hours, the Civil Defense refused to allow the hams to help in any way!

            Politics over people! Happens far too often, and some questions need to be asked I think, more often than they are.

        • Airangel

          @timr…Obama is half white. It’s not about race. It’s about his policies in rewarding the less than deserving (aka illegals, criminals and business owners) by stealing from the hard-working who give of their own free will to charities and volunteer their time because they want to help the less fortunate…there is a BIG difference in GIVING and TAKING or FORCING YOUR WILL on others. Every hard working American has the God given right to earn what they can and enjoy and pursue a quality life, have prosperity, happiness and independence from overbearing Government. Our Government is supposed to be limited for this very reason of creating animosity amongst the citizens that pay for it.

          • timr

            Airangel…….the problem with your views on government, is that you NEVER……..hold Business accountable, when they are the very Industry who almost brought down our entire Economy……..so Government HAD to step in……….We need SOME checks-and-balances in our Economy, or we will end up just as we did 2 years ago……….

        • marvin

          timr,, you are proof that alot of black people like you are racist you think we don,t like obama cause he is black, skin tone has nothing to do with not liking his policy, if you are to blind or stuped to see the real reason we disagree has nothing to do with race but agenda,so if we disagree with something obama said or does we are kkk or racist you need help

          • timr

            First of all, Marvin, I’m White, not Black………..Secondly, I’m not saying, that the reeson one might disagree with Obama, is because he’s black………I’m saying…….the WAY many people are disagreeing with him, is because he’s black……….Take a look,……..why do you think all of those rally’s last summer were about…….”He is not like us”, and all of that………Was it because of his policy in Iraq………..NO……….it was a way to show how “different” he is, from the majority of White America……..and the Birther stuff as well……….THAT was ALL based on Race, so don’t tell me, that Race doesn’t matter, because in THIS country……RACE ALWAYS matters…………..Do you remember Katrina??….Huh???…….if that hurricane was in Palm beach florida, would the response have been different??…….You bet it would have…….and you know it…………

          • del

            …..Do you remember Katrina??….Huh???…….if that hurricane was in Palm beach florida, would the response have been different??…….You bet it would have…….and you know it…………
            Just out of curiosity do you think there should have been a difference in the response?
            Personally I think it would be a smart move to take care of your assets before your liabilities.

          • Jana

            del,

            You said:
            ….”.Do you remember Katrina??….Huh???…….if that hurricane was in Palm beach florida, would the response have been different??…….You bet it would have…….and you know it…………
            Just out of curiosity do you think there should have been a difference in the response?
            Personally I think it would be a smart move to take care of your assets before your liabilities”

            You bet the response would have been different because the Governor of FL. would have asked help as well as the mayors of the affected cities.
            Hurricanes have hit FL. and they didn’t just sit back like babies that have no gumption with their hands out saying feed me, take care of me, I am helpless, like they did in Louisianna. They had people in authority that rose to the occasion and helped their own people. Remember, the Governor has to ask for the Feds to get involved.

          • angel-wanna-be

            TimR, yeah we all remember Katrina___and how all you Libs blamed Bush for dragging his feet, while thousands of school buses and other forms of transportaion, sat in water up to there roofs, when they used could have used for bussing the people the hell outta there, four days BEFORE Katrina hit!!!

        • angel-wanna-be

          TimR, Yeah I’m shakin’ in my boots!!__Egads!__The Black and white stuff ended a looong time ago, come out of your cave, take a deep breath, and view the world, Son!!__There may have a few on here that’s on the right, who spew race, but it doesn’t speak for all of us!__Grow up for God sake, dry your ears!

          • timr

            Hey Angel-wannabe……just look at some of the entries on this Blog, and tell me, that Race still doesn’t matter……..Your’e right, it’s not as bad as it used to be, but, there are still a large element out there, and THEY don’t want to see a Black man as President……..I won’t cry, but I will certainly fight against this hatred and racism……..I won’t sweep it under the rug, like the Catholic Priests did, or the Conderacy……….

          • timr

            And Angel……..I’m not your son, let’s get THAT straight………and why don’t YOU grow up……….

          • JeffH

            timr, you hold hatred in your heart and racism in your mind.

            For what reason doest thou harbor such resentment for your fellow man? It could very well be to cover the pain in your soul.

          • angel-wanna-be

            tIMR, GROW UP, CHILD!

          • Jana

            timr,
            Just look at who started all of this hatred bigotry on this site. YOU. You have so much rage in you it is unreal. You conduct yourself like an out of control pathetic person who won’t, no, refuses to even listen to reason.
            you have the typical rant of the lunatic left.
            Not all leftists are lunatics, but you certainly come across like one.

        • DaveH

          Timr,
          Alan Keyes is black. Why didn’t you vote for him? Are you racist?
          No, of course not, you are just an ignorant Liberal who has nothing better to debate with than the childish techniques of name-calling, ridicule, and condescension. Get back to your Eighth Grade class and quit pestering us.

          • timr

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        • Darrell

          timr…paranoid, racist & Obama-struck. Solely here to provoke & bait. Must be disheartening to see those tea partier’s not hate…but you keep up the spin like the good little lackey & useful tool that you are.

          • Jana

            Darrell,
            You have timr pegged. He is a tool. Bought and paid for. It is his job to come on to this site to provoke and bait. The only problem is he is showing his true identity as to his own prejudices. He is a pathetic person.

        • American liberal

          Timr:: good posts….. And of course your correct… These people are hardcore racist… All the birther nonsense and Marxist crap… If these rightwing traitors were really concerned about tyranny , Marxism and Paling around with terrorist, the last administration was all those things…. These are the same people that think torturing humanbeings is a goodthing…torturing people are exactly what communism and tyranny are….the wiretapping, outting CIA agents… Firing judges that didn’t toe the line, secret prisons …lying their way into the war aginst Iraq, These are all things that if these poor excuses for humanbeings could have called tyranny and they embraced it… These rightwingers are as low on the humanity scale as they come…so yes.. These are racist traitors…. Their is nothing patriotic or religious about these people… Don’t ever count on honesty from these people … They don’t know the meaning of honesty…

          • Peter

            I’m not sure where you get the right wing racist crap from. Many of the Tea Party members are of varying races Native American, African American, Japanese American, Chinese American, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian and no declared party etc… Every inventory of every Tea Party gathering has been very close to a cross section of America.But of course you don’t want that to be true nor does the Obama administration because that wouldn’t generate enough hate for them. Military grade weapons can be a military firearm from any period Rev War, WWI, WWII etc… the bomb making matt’ls might be just a can of black powder used to fire antique firearms. I really pity people such as you. You are ready to believe anything you hear as long as it causes fear and hate. You are the ones who foment hate against themselves by your actions and words. I picture some one cowering under his bed covers, trembling in fear at every sound you hear. You thought your savior had arrived, with his promises to unit the nation and all he succeeded in doing was fanning the flames. Soon you will realize that that was his intent from the start. He wants nothing more than to promote class and racial hatred. Poor against rich, black against white, you feed right into it and he wins. Look at Obama’s past, when has he ever done anything to promote racial tolerance. His whole life has been devoted to promoting hate. All of his friends were radicals and anarchists. You are who you associate with. I’m sorry you didn’t get your savior. Better luck in 2012!

          • timr

            Hey American Liberal……..these people don’t want to remember when the Bush Administration “trampled” the Constitution…….and if the Obama administration had outted a CIA Agent, they would be up in arms about it…….

          • Jana

            timr,
            See, you don’t read with comprehension. When we started realizing what was happening, we started trying to become active and do something about it. A lot of us were still asleep during the Bush admin., but we started waking up during the last couple of years of his admin. and started writing to him and to our congressmen. That’s why Obama was voted in because he promised an “open administration which has been proven a LIE. He promised it would NOT be business as usual, boy was that right, more secrecy and even Chicago thug syle arm twisting. But you choose to ignore this and keep spouting your hate and keep on antagonizing. A lot of people are still asleep thinking Obama is doing an ok job, but they are waking up fast.

        • David Weber

          Obama, the smartest person in the whole world, has taught me that there are 57 states in Amerika. On a side note, there are 57 islamic countries in the world. Funny coincidence don’t you think? Maybe that’s why he bowed down to the Saudi king, you know to show his allegiance to his Muslim, I mean Christian faith. I love how he says “we’re going to redistribute the wealth.” Hmmn. Curious, that is EXACTLY what the communist party wants to do too. Seems to make him a radical communist muslim to me. Just saying…

          • timr

            Hey Mr Weber…….wasn’t Bush seem=n holding hands with the Saudi Prince……..Have you ANY idea, the long friendship that the Bush Family has with Saudi Arabia and their Oil…..???…….Get Real

        • Ted Crawford

          timr; Your post is wrong on so,so many levels!! To begin with your assertion that the term “Anti-American” is racial. America is the melting pot of the world! There is no American “Race”, therefore your comment is ridiculous on it’s face!
          Secondly you state that he is “black and smarter” than we are. In this case you are ,at least, half right! He is black. The assumption that he is smarter, is just that, an assumption! He does have the advantage of a superior education. One ,by the way, not available to 95% of us! Education,like IQ, is simply a foundation. One may have a foundation suitable to a skyscraper,yet proceed to build a chicken shack on it!
          Thirdly, you refer to us as “Angry white brethern”. Again,you are half right! We are angry! I,and many others,however am not white!

          • Peter

            Small correction. He’s half black. He can’t even do that right!

          • timr

            Hey Ted, your friend Mr Beboroni called Abama a Leper and Anti-Anerican…………What else do you want me to say??

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Note to timr – He is a half white man, ok. Have you see his mother? He is half white. That doesnt qualify him as a black man, so put your racial epitahs away. And he is anti American. Any man in that position, who willingly sets free prisoners of war in Abu Garaib, gives them lawyers to defend them, while imprisoning our our soldiers for killing them, then goes around the world apologizing to our sworn enemies, yes sir, that is un American behavior, and that in itself makes him un-American. Any man in his position who not only fails to enforce our laws, i.e. illegal immigration, but lambasts Arizona for taking action against it, once again proves his anti American rhetoric. Arizona had to take action because this leper and his Chicago thugs wont. They desire those illegal alien and hispanic votes, and they are willing to turn a blind eye to their illegal activities to get them. Un-American – Yes sir he is.

        • gregory

          TMR, slow down and think about what you are saying.. i thought the president is white isn’t he? and what constitutes white and black, it seems your fix’d on this black thing, doesnt that make you the raciest? i havent heard anybody on this site say anything about white and black except you!! stop the hate baiting, it only makes you look stupid, is this what your culture of corruption is about? give it up
          YA RACIEST REDNECK!!!!

      • jsin

        news flash-bush started the whole “czar” bit-i thought it was a bad choice.

        • JeffH

          jsin is another of the leftist paid “alphbet” poster

        • A Legal Immigrant

          It was Clinton, but your probrably still wet behind the ears, and know little about world history. But its not entirely your fault, your likely a product of our federally mandated “dumbed Down” education system. Its a process that’s been going on for awhile, both repubs and Dems, and BO, or Barry Sotero. (his real name) just happens to be the pawn in play at this juncture. That’s why the Tea party exists, becuase we are sick and tired of being lied to by self serving politicians. And that’s why there are large numbers of Americans leaving, and ditching the citizenship, so as to not be on the hook for Obama’s massive entitlement programs that we simply cannot afford. By bankrupting the US, he opens the door for a one world currency, and the end of American Soverienty, by the full implementaion of NAFTA, which was pushed by Bush Sr, Clinton, and Bush JR, and now Obama. You see its all part of a much bigger agenda. Watch the movie Zeitgeist, its 2 hours long and available on You-Tube..until the regime orders it taken down. The emphasis on reliegon in the first 30 minutes is to show how people can be dupped, and have been for years, big government is useing these same techniques to fool the masses. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kHhc67GopM

          • Peter

            They don’t understand it so they fear it.

      • Tim Layman

        All of this venom directed at President Obama. I would like to know where the Tea Partiers and all of these other so-called patriots were when the real facists (Bush/Cheney) were busy creating the world mess we have today?

        • Sidewinder

          Tim…
          They were listening to Rush….and not seeing it.

          • Save America Susie

            I never listen to Rush. I think that is too wide a generalization to say we all do.

          • Save America Susie

            I also think that the Tea Partiers are just “the tip of the ice berg”. Many more support them that don’t take part.I think you will be surprised in November. The reason why no one much was out demonstrating (except Cindy Sheehan and the like) when Bush was President, was he was not trying to fundamentally change this country. It was still America. The Tea Party is in every major city in this country and even small towns. The numbers of which you have no clue! What you don’t understand is Bush actually loves his country.

        • Citizen Kane

          There are a lot of idiots here…and both of you are classified as such. Wake up and smell the coffee. Obumer is taking our country into a sh*thole. Tarp, Czars, SPEND< SPEND< SPEND out of a recession? Wow. He is in the unions bed and we are in deep trouble. Tax our way out of our problems while we spend our Great Grandchildrens savings. Hell….let's bail out everyone. Wake up America. Get rid of all of the Congress and Senate and El Presidente. Start over with real people…not Lwyaers and Douche bags.

          • Sidewinder

            Did you just call me an idiot?

            Heres a part of your quote: Wake up America. Get rid of all of the Congress and Senate and El Presidente. Start over with real people…not Lwyaers and Douche bags.

            Why not go back and actually read some of my posts, before deciding to shoot your mouth off and make yourself look like a fool.

            LOL!!!

        • DaveH

          Tim,
          I didn’t approve of Bush. But Bush is gone. Get over it. Obama is the problem now, and he is a much bigger problem than Bush was.
          By the way, for all of you who attack Bush as a war-monger, but absolve Obama, read this:
          http://www.examiner.com/x-27874-Alameda-County-Progressive-Examiner~y2009m10d30-Obama-orders-more-drone-attacks-since-taking-office-than-Bush-did-in-8-years

          • timr

            Bush was, by far, the most incompetent President EVER……….

        • Average Joe

          Tim Layman,

          Why do you ASSume that we weren’t pitching a fuss about Bush/Cheney? Many of us have not been pleased any policies comming out of Wahington for decades (as in more than 10)…Some of us just happen to believe in limited Constitutional government (limited to those things listed in Article 1 Section 8). We believe that most decisions should be made on the state and local levels…not on the Federal level. If you are not happy with your state government…you can either change it, or…you can move to another state that fits what you believe…..if everything is controlled at the Federal level…where can you go?
          Stop following the progressive propaganda machine of the “collective” and start thinking for yourself.

          Political tags – such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth – are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.
          Robert A. Heinlein

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          BUSH-BUSH-BUSH-BUSH-BUSH-BUSH-BUSH-BUSH-BUSH-BUSH-BUSH-BUSH-BUSH-BUSH-BUSH-BUSH. After all this time, this is still all youve got to offer? BUSH-BUSH-BUSH-BUSH-BUSH. Its tired and worn out, he has been gone a year and a half, and these guys have offerered and done nothing but dig a hole. Put away the excuses, and come up with a solution please. Its so easy to play the victim, that 3 year olds do it.

        • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

          George Bush is kicking back, enjoying his retirement, watching the s**t hit the fan. You can’t possibly blame this current mess on him. Give it up.

      • JS

        With all these czars that obalama has appointed to his admistration, you would think that this is ussr. This Anti-American so-called leader has to be stopped. What else do you expect from a muslin?

        Mr. Turner It is people like you that demonstrate to the rest of the nation (the 75% that want nothing to do with the tea party)just how ridiculous you statement really is. It appears that in general Tea Party people are some of the most uninformed folks in the nation.You will continue to be as long as you keep getting your information from right wing propaganda radio and Fox News.

        Do you even know who appointed the first CZAR? I sure you don’t.

        It was your beloved Ronald Reagan. Your right wing friend William Bennett was the first drug czar.
        For your information a czar in nothing but an advisor to the president on any given topic. There are education czars and a whole host of others (nothing but advisors)that simply advise the president.

        So wise up and educate your self. And Oh by the way while your trying to get some basic education, I might inform you that the president is not a (Musiln)or a Muslim, he happens to be a Christian.

        • Save America Susie

          I believe he is a Christian for the sake of politics, ala Rev. Wright,(sitting under him for 20 years must have done something). We have never had a president that didn’t at least claim to like the Christian God. And MOST claimed to be Christians. Remember Jesus’ parable of “The Wheat and the Tares.” If you don’t know it, it would be worth looking up.

    • don

      I do not get it. Has anyone read their history? Guess not. I wonder who are using Nazi tactics. Evidently the libs in this country would like to see that horrific time re-visited. I DON’T and what is going on now with the un-american civility by the left is disturbing. I expect even worse from these folks that are trying to destroy America. Most of them did not serve their country anywhere and have know how expensive freedom is. they are the losers as they spend all of their time and effort to try to destroy this country. This fight is not about land or money. One thing that no man can take from another man is the freedom to make his own choices about his life. Where he will live, how he will raise his family. You take a man who would take his God given rights away from us , well, not from me he won’t! There can be no doubt about the price, but we will pay it!

    • nickwolf

      Tea Baggers have no faith! They don’t follow the teachings of Jesus Christ ? They also have no Country! They are by definition of George Washington “Traitors” to the United States! “These laws were not passed by a King, they were passed by the Representative majority in Virginia, THEY ARE THE LAW OF THE LAND ! “. He then put down the insurection (The Whiskey Rebellion) by point of bayonnet with a Militia formed in another State and marched to Pennslyvania to put down the Whiskey Rebellion, who also used the Tea Party Slogan! George Washington called it what it is ….Treason!
      The Whiskey tax affected Washington more than anyone else, he was at that time the biggest whiskey distiller in the Country?

      The things the t-baggers say are slanderous, false and Hate crimes….they have no basis in truth. The Majority elected representatives of the United States of America are not “Fascists” …. but all of you are UnAmerican Dog’s.!!!

      Keep shouting people down in town hall meetings, threatening old ladies with guns and your little bag strings will be cut and
      your lies neutered! By the MAJORITY!

      Just because an election does not go your way, does not give you the right to not follow the law. Your Racist, unintelligent rants have no basis in facts, you don’t debate the points with true Americans…you are afraid of the Truth. You are afraid of other opinions, which would easily falsify your slanders. Your representatives are brain dead bigots who destroyed our Country over the last 8 yrs…..We the People are not letting you back in Power! You should pray that your side does not get the chance to finish the job on the destruction of the middle class.
      You are dupes, blinded by ignorance and hate and being led by the noses by your real enemies, the super rich corporations that stop any regulation on your behalf. You are therefor MASOCHISTIC PONYBOYS FOR THE CORPORATIONS! Not Rebels at all….just cowardly slaves.
      We are out of the Recession in record time! Jobs are starting to return, even though it usually takes 3 – 5 yrs for full job recovery after recessions. Kensian Economics won again, like it did for Reagan, and Nixon and the last 7 recessions. Following Beck, Palin, Limpballs or your don’t spend nonscense would have caused a depression. Now its almost time to start reducing the deficit….Something that was not there during the last Democratic President! We had a surplus!
      SO STOP COMMITING SUICIDE !!

      • Sidewinder

        Nickwolf…
        define fascism….

        Then explain our system.

        Then explain the differences.

        • Sidewinder

          Perhaps he’s still studying?
          …its been severals hours now…

      • timr

        Don, the Tea-Baggers are a bunch of middle class, bored, White Americans, who have NEVER involved themselves in a cause before, but feel they can shout out hatred at Town hall meetings, and disrupt democracy in action…………If they want ALL of the power to stay with Corporate America, then they will see this Financial Industry collapse AGAIN………..The Reagan Administration got rid of ALL regulations, which has caused this recent meltdown, because we let the system run wild and un-checked…………..And Clinton got lucky with the Internet boom………Who do you blame during the Bush Administration…..???…….Bush or the Republican congress????

        The Middle Class is dying, and that is because of Corporate Welfare………sending Jobs overseas, Clinton signing NAFTA……..it ruined Manufacturing in thes Country…………and then…..Bush cuts taxes during 2 Wars……….which has NEVER happened……….

        And Don, I never agreed with ANY Bailouts…….whether they were Car Companies OR Banks…………

        • Marilyn

          Wow, such hate and intolerance from those who profess tolerance and compassion. Anyone who doesn’t agree with your dreams of Utopia is your enemy? Those of us who have defended the Constitution and The United States of America with our blood, sweat and tears have fought and will continue to fight for your right to spew the hate and vitriol you do. Can the came be said for you? Obviously not!

          • Average Joe

            Marilyn,

            Pay no attention to Tiny Timr…He’s been “LObamatized”….. I thought that they pretty much quit doing those operations back in the 50′s…but there seems to be a resurgence in the procedure over the last couple of years. God news though…the procedure is reversible…with large doses of education…….We must hold compassion for them as they are, after all… “Handicapped”.

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.
            Robert A. Heinlein

        • Palin12

          timr….your description of what “Tea baggers” do is incorrect. Tea baggers are what homosexuals do with their boyfriends.

          • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

            The term “teabagger” is not only obscene and offensive, it’s also really stupid. Back in the days of the original Boston Tea Party, there was no such thing as a tea bag.

        • Peter

          You know that the Tea Party people are all middle class. You’ve checked their incomes???? You know what one of your problems is, you see the writing on the wall. Obama is a one term president and when he’s out, its correction time. Just get those crying towels ready cause by the end of this year the House and Senate will be full of those “right wing nuts” and in 2012, the rest of the trash gets taken to the street. I just get a warm toast feeling every time I think of it. I wonder if Obama has screwed things up for every black politician. At least he has made Jimmy Carter feel good, he took away his title as worst president ever.

        • gregory

          TMR, why be a hater? why are you such a raciest?

      • American liberal

        Nickwolf…. Good post…you got it right…

        • Jeep

          AL, is that the best you can do? Lib rant = “good post”…how silly…

    • Radio UpNorth

      The TEA-Party are brownshirters of Libertarian Aynn Rand Czarist fascism.

      The Corporate International Socialist are more than thriving in the American Capitalist system. The TEA-Partyites well know that. They are either spreading Livingston kinds of propaganda as liars or as retards.

      You can’t have political democracy without economic democracy.

      Where you have less than 1% of the top level income earners making more income than the bottom 50% under some malapropo propaganda called “trickle down” economy. The bottome gets nothing. The revenue stream is dry from too many capitalistic Corporate International Socialist sponges.

      But, break the system. Keep the money you steal and siphon without taking your fair share of the tax burden. It will also be a pleasure to watch your world crumble and decay, just like in Greece.

      Good luck in holding out when the rabble crash through your gated communities with all of their guns blazing.

      • JeffH

        Radio UpNorth and his favorite cry of the “Corporate International Socialist” is back. The “Che Guerva” rallyers are all present and accounted for. Ant-American, ant-corporatist, anti-capitalist and who could forget the anti- Corporate International Socialist. You and your Che Guerva “crew” are the socialists here.

      • JeffH

        Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage’s whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men.
        Ayn Rand

      • DaveH

        I’m waiting for you and your “rabble” to break through my gates. It will be my pleasure.
        Oh, and that 1% you speak of pays 40% of the income taxes. The bottom 50% pay only 3% of the income taxes. Yet, they get an equal vote. Talk about taxation without representation!
        You’re ignorant Radio. Get some education. Try these web sites for starters:
        Cato.org
        Reason.org
        Mises.org

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Question is, how are they going to blame their defeat on Bush, since that is all they know how to do, is blame Bush.

      • Sidewinder

        Hey Blaberoni, glad I caught you…

        Read my post 2 posts down, and maybe you will get some idea why I don’t like Pres Bush or his lasting legacy of constitutional violations.

        Get your head out of the Dogma…

        • DaveH

          Sidewinder,
          I was no Bush lover. But Bush is gone. Get over it! Damn. I loathed Clinton, but he’s gone too. Why waste your time talking about Bush when Obama is the here and now?
          Big Government will never be the Solution. They are always the Problem, no matter who the leader is.
          Vote Libertarian. Get us out of this death spiral:
          http://libertarianparty.org/platform

    • Nick Nickolis

      These are The Lobbys out To Destroy Th Y.s.A. The Southern Law and Poverty,The Cult Awearness Net work at Waco,The Students For a democratic Socity,ACLU. ,ADL., AIPAC.Weaterhmen Bill Ayeirs,The American Jewish Comgress,The Wolrd Jewish Congress,World Zionist Oganization And the 50 pages MORE of Jewish Funded Front Organizaition that are FUNDED and Paid For by American Taxed (EXTORTED)TAX Dollars across America.They Are All Anti America,Anti God,Anti Constitution,And Worst ANTI CHRIST.and Pro Israil and the destruction of Pallistine and the Middle East.
      The Changed Our Mony Our Laws Anf Our Morality
      If You Are Not Anti The Anti American The You are ANTI AMERICA AND ALL THE FREEDOM YOU USED TO HAVE . IT IS ALL GONEThanks to You and Them

  • Randall

    The socialists in both parties know where they want this to go. If you still believe in the “Two Party” system, you’re in for another rude shock.
    Lesser of two evils begets, what?

    • Sidewinder

      Hi Randell
      Yes theres been a whole lot of unfounded concern over whether or not Pres Obama is a socialist. You are correct, our 2 party system is not serving us.

      The reason I say Americans should not be overly concerned about Presidents with socialist backgrounds is that there are unseen filters and checks within the system. I believe the President is not the highest authority in the land. I don’t know who, or where they are, but there is something within the system, that is in place to ensure continuity of government. I cannot see them, but I see the effect, so I know its there.

      To clarify what I mean, America cannot function as a cohesive state, much less a super power, if we struggle with revolution every 4 to 8 years. “They” will NEVER allow say a real socialist to turn our political and economic system upside down, then 4 years later a fascist or reinvent our whole system yet again. Then back again 8 years later.
      That would create total instability.
      And I cannot say I disagree with ensuring continuity.

      Republicans and Democrats fight over the small differences, but work together on America’s direction, trade agreements, ect.

      It is my firm belief that America is a corportist state. Our 2 parties are parties of left leaning and right leaning corportists. Some, like obama may come from far left leaning, even socialist backgrounds when coming up in the world, but in order to govern, one must govern the American Corportist State as a corportist. Left or right leaning, they give us the choice.

      Our problem is we all realize something is wrong. We do not recognise America. This is not the America we read about in school. Somewhere along the line many decades ago, they changed our system without our consent. Its similiar yet different. They did it through gradualism.

      The only political candidates that will really be allowed to run, are those who are suited to run this present system.

      They don’t want any Jessee Ventura’s. They never saw him coming. And they DON”T want Tea Partiers. The Democrats have openly stated they want to discredit and take down the Tea Party. The Republicans….I think they want to hijack it, and absorb it.

      The Tea Party MUST remain free and independent from the 2 other major parties.
      The Tea Party MUST get some real central organizing, in order to weed out the nut jobs.
      And the Tea Party MUST gain MASSIVE grassroots support, and like a massive battering ram, ram straight through Washington. Without the numbers, both in support, and in getting a large amount of Tea Party Candidates elected to Congress…the Tea Party is nothing.

      • John S

        I could not agree with you more. You have posted one of the best comments I have seen to date on any site. The USA was formed by the people and for the people and it is time for the people to awaken and take it back. The TEA party is and will be a force as long as it remains of the people and centered on the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Thank you for your post.

        • denniso

          We have had a creeping corporatism for more than a century… big oil, railroads, automobile, mining, logging and military suppliers have fought and paid to gain control over the gov’t from the beginning of the country, it’s the way a representative democracy works. If it takes a lot of money, as it increasingly does, to run for and hold onto public office and we allow the corporate class to lobby and finance elections, this is what you get as a direct result…the majority of politicians owned in some degree by corporations and business in general and doing their bidding so they can stay in office. What else would we expect to happen?

          The facts though point to the Repubs being totally owned by corporate America and the Dems less so…and that does make them different.
          Just look at the recent ruling by the ‘conservative’ leaning Supreme
          Court allowing unlimited corporate money into elections, and supported by most Repubs as a freedom of speech issue. It’s patently
          obvious that it opens up the door to even more control over our gov’t officials and will diminish the power of our individual votes more yet.

          We need less money from big corporate players in the electoral system, not more, yet it’s mostly the Repubs supporting more money and less restrictions on campaign financing. We need public financing of national elections to cut the cord between big donors, corporate or not, and no Repubs will support that…it’s pretty clear if you look at history to see that almost all Repubs are on the side of corporatism…a gov’t bought,paid for, and run by multinational corporations.

          • CJ

            Denniso, your point holds NO creditibility. Until the government got involved “fixing” the system, our country was strong, and getting stronger. Then the liberal attitude got greedy and thought they could spread the wealth. The country has been on a down-hill slide ever since. If capitalism isn’t allowed to make the money, where do you think it will come from? Liberals never learn until they run out of other peoples’ money.

          • Sidewinder

            I have high regaurd for your opinions Denniso. Well thought out.

          • WarriorH

            Did you know that the “sponsorship from Corp” is split approx 50/50 between the parties? Why do you libs constantly attempt to always tie Corporations to Repubs?

          • JeffH

            WarriorH…it’s called “freedom of speech”. As you can see, they all like to abuse it.

          • DaveH

            Are you that dumb Denniso, that you can’t vote for your own candidate regardless of the Big Money ads? The truth is that it takes a lot of money for a new candidate to get the kind of exposure that it takes to unseat an incumbent. Even with all the money spent on campaigns in a free society, it is very rare that an incumbent gets thrown out of office. They have years of exposure over their challengers. If the ignorant people calling for campaign reform get their way, it will be virtually impossible to unseat them. That’s why RINO’s like John McCain pushed for Campaign Finance Reform. They don’t want to lose their powerful postions. If you want firmly entrenched leaders, vote for Campaign Finance laws.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Having this many followers, in as little time as they have been around, sends shivers up and down the spines of the Washington insiders. They know their days are numbered, and instead of hunkering down and making plans to make things better for all, they are content to continue to lambast the other side, with Democrats attacking everybody and the Republicans attacking the Democrats. The Tea Party has a plan, has made it known, and is growing everyday. We have needed a third party for a long time, and soon it will be done.

          • Sidewinder

            So are you saying you are supporting Corporatism Blaberoni? Is that what you are trying to say?

            Here is our system:
            Corporatism is a system where businesses are nominally in private hands, but are in fact controlled by the government. In a corporatist state, government officials often act in collusion with their favored business interests to design polices that give those interests a monopoly position, to the detriment of both competitors and consumers.

            Think FDA, think all those in Congress who are involved in influence peddeling, ie, accepting cash for special favors, or representation. Think all those elected officials that are given high paying jobs in the very industries they represented after they leave office.{Chris Dodd} Think Barney Frank, and his lies protecting Fanny Mae.

            So you are saying you support this?

            I don’t. I would like to see a government free of influence peddeling. Where the laws, rules, and regulations are applied fairly across, the board for all. Not mafia style capitolism, where racketeering is the name of the game.

          • Sidewinder

            So you like Bush, and you like the Tea Party???
            Why?
            You seem mixed up completely. They stand for different things.

            Why not just remain a Republican? For you, it would just be so much easier….

          • DaveH

            Then, Sidewinder, you are advocating Smaller Government? As Government Grows, Corruption Flows. That is a fact that has been proven throughout the world.

            And SideWinder, why the slur on Beberoni’s name? He is one of the most polite commentor’s on this board. I don’t think he deserves that.

            You put yourself squarely in the class of the childish Liberals when you pull stunts like that.

      • angel-wanna-be

        Sidewinder, checks and balances and filters as you say, are pratically null and void in a majority rule my friend.

        • Sidewinder

          But thats just the problem Angel.
          We merely have the illusion of majority rule.

          Those filters ensure that only certain people will even make it onto the ballot. Read what I said about those filters ensuring continuity of government.

          We cannot have revolution every 4 to 8 years and expect to function as a cohesive state much less a super power. No one will be allowed to come in and change our political or economic system.

          Thats why I never feared Obama’s socialist leanings….because he, like all previous presidents will govern as a corportist.

          What I do fear, is out corportist sysyem.

          • Sidewinder

            Thank you John.

          • jsin

            the tea party should concentrate on campaign finance reform,to get the money out and the will of the people in. If they could focus on a clear,sane message the media couldn’t color tham as a bunch of crazies

      • nickwolf

        No debate can never get a “massive” amount of people in any party! Your brain dead rants are easily rebuked in any public debate forum. You are right about the Corporate States of America, but that happened long ago. Only regulation can help that. It’s all we have. Even a third party would easily be corrupted by big contributors….so stop dreaming.
        Obama’s regulations are necessary for the Country! He can’t get what we really need, so all we can do is chip away at their power by regulations for the people!
        Obama is the only thing standing between Corporate greed and your freedom! And even thats not enough!

        • Sidewinder

          Hey Nickwolf…
          There is nothing treasonous or unAmerican in starting a third party. And nothing wrong in wanting a government to represent the voters and not special interest.

          And in that, I urge all to practice NONVIOLENCE. And even be careful in choosing your words, as words can influence others.

          • Sidewinder

            I am 100% for Wall Street Reform.

          • Save America Susie

            Sidewinder, The problem with getting a third party involved–(and I can understand the need for that)–however, its that we will get just what we got when Clinton was elected. He won by the smallest margin ever. But Perot bumped out a lot of the votes that would have gone to a more Conservative candidate. The libs will always win when three parties are in volved. However, we used to have the Whig party, until Lincoln was the first Republican candidate ever. Now that is defunct. So that may be the exception to the rule. What are your thoughts?

          • JLC

            A side note here is that BOTH current major political parties began their lives as third parties!

          • Sidewinder

            My thoughts?

            1. A vote for a third party is not a wasted vote.

            2. Not voting your conscience is a wasted vote.

            3. Like someone said earlier, The lesser of 2 evils leaves you with what?

            4. Voting for either of the 2 current parties will only get you a corportist who will represent special interest and not you.

            5. The definition of stupidity is doing the exact same thing over and over, but expecting different results.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Goverment regulations are the things killing this country the most. We do not need a bigger and more powerful government, running and regulating everything. We need a smaller government that lets the free market determine who succeeds and who doesnt. Look at the things the government runs – The school system, the post office, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, the national debt. All of them are broke and busted, as soon will be our health care system now that they went and stuck their hands into that. No sir, you are wrong. We do not need more government regulations, we need less of them.

          • Sidewinder

            Blaberoni is my very favorite person.

            He/she is helping me work on patience.

            Less regulation huh? How about no regulation, would that be even better? No food standards…no safety standards, think about it. No standards in banking. What do you mean, I DON”T HAVE an account? No standards at the Nuke Plant. Hey who needs regulation anyway? It just cuts into profits.

            Why not start at the top, and read all the posts all the way down.
            I am smiling .

            Blaberoni….Do you suffer from Stockholm Syndrome?

          • DaveH

            That’s what courts are for, Sidewinder. If you have been wronged you can present your case to the courts for redress.

            Regulation is misused by Big Government to do the very thing you say you dislike. That is to protect their Crony-Capitalists from competition. The small upstart competitors can not afford to jump through all those regulatory hoops like the well-funded Big Corporations can.

            The consumer is the best regulator of all. Do you honestly think food companies, for instance, could poison their customers and continue to attract buyers to their products? Look what happened to Jack in the Box over the E-coli contaminations. It damn near put them out of business.

            Regulations stifle economies. Look at the countries at the top of this list (pick the name of the country to get more info), and the countries at the bottom of the list (the most heavily regulated). Then tell me that you would like the United States to be like them:
            http://www.heritage.org/index/Ranking.aspx

          • Keep the high ground…

            Beberoni,

            I absolutely agree with you regarding regulations and big government… Sidewinders remarks are an example of why I really love “free Speech”. Anyone who wants to paint thinks as either Black or White, doesn’t have a very strong grasp on reality. Having them say that in their own words reduces the time needed for argument/disagreement. Thanks Sidewinder.

            Anyway, back to your comments reference our overbearing regulatory system. Just so happens I’ve been a Safety and Environmental guy for over forty years (even before we had national agencies responsible for such regulations) and a professional aviation guy even longer. Each of these areas are needful of regulation and standards (not the same thing by the way), but the one thing that often get’s in the way of that balance required of good regulations is an understanding of “why we need them in the first place”. A good answer to this question is we need regulations to make operations safer or more efficient or to protect things we value as a society. But what has occurred over the past couple of generations in the United States is a move toward over regulation and bloated bureaucracies. Without getting into a real technical review of our national regulatory system, I’ll just use one example to demonstrate what I mean…the US Military has a very complex mission defending the interests of this nation, but all of its service related safety, aviation and environmental regulations run into a few hundred pages (that’s counting all services), while each of the civil counterparts run into the thousands. Why? The simple answer is the assumption within the Military is the JOB still has to be done. What we have done/allowed on the civil side is loss of focus regarding this one simple fact. And by losing that focus, it no longer drives regulations. What often drives regulations is an unrealistic political agenda which is very risk averse and does not give proper weight to getting the job done by those being regulated(i.e. businesses). I could also mention that most regulators have little or no Real world experience in their areas of expertise outside their regulator responsibilities, but no need to make this more complex than what I’ve already stated.

            So, we don’t need to get rid of regulations… we need to make them smarter and simpler to comply with, so they actually do something other than STRANGLE our national production and energy.

  • Geronimo

    As a teacher, regarding the prayer in schools issue,I say let the kids pray. It’s the only way some of them can pass.

    • Right Wing

      That is truly an unfathomable post from a teacher. If you find that children need to pray to succeed, then you have failed. Prayer is to enhance the focus and spiritual strength not provide the final saving in your failed profession. There is no such thing as a bad student, only a bad teacher.

      • Dan Burke

        I know the US has wonderful safeguards to protect against tyranny (socialism?). However, while these have served us for many years, here’s a few of my concerns and why I might have hope that Americans are “waking up.” How many of us just voted without having really listened to what the politicians were really saying? Or if we did, we did not contemplate the consequences of their positions? We are getting what we voted for. We just did not pay attention. Unfortunately, if we believe that we cannot lose our republic that our Founders created, then we have learned very little. How did Hitler take over Germany? On several fronts. In addition to being elected and then corrupting their system (which feels like it is happening to some degree here and now), his people taught the youth and turned them against the people. Coincidence then that our modern “progressives” target our youth. During the health care debate, was the call for us to report our neighbors with opposing views a freudian slip? And as for educating our youth, where did all those choirs of youth come from sings praises to Barack Obama come from? Are we teaching youth to “worship” a man? Suddenly he is the brilliant genius whose going to save the world instead of all us parents and hard working common men and women…. We CAN lose America!

        • TDMW

          First, remove the blinders from your eyes. Can you not see that the real overtaking happened during the 8 years of the Bush administration? And what Obama is being accused of is him actually trying to take our country back for the American people? Are you really that blind???

          • Ray

            What a bunch of lapdogs. Here’s the liberal agenda in a nutshell. Don’t look at the harms your party is causing. Blame everything on Bush. Forget that the majority does not support Obama, keep your blinders on and follow like a good little lapdog. Then pretend like the tea party movement is violent, even though there has been no violence. After that, associate the tea partiers with the KKK and make them out to be racists all the while pretending like you’re the smart enlightened ones. Pretend that all the tea party people are stupid red necks. I mean after all, that’s what Nancy Pelosi does so why shouldn’t these other liberal lap dogs do so also? Oh then make up inane names to call them like tea baggers (because that proves how superior you are).

            Don’t lead, be a bunch of followers. I used to think the liberals just didn’t care what they did to America. Now I realize they don’t understand what they’re doing. I mean the socialists at the top have an obvious agenda, but the little lap dogs that continue to follow them just don’t get it. It’s very simple really: They get some of you with no sense to follow them blindly. Then they spread propaganda that all those that oppose them are either violent, racist, or both. That way they can sit at the top and let us fight it out. All the while they get rich taxing us to oblivion. The original tea party happened when England was taxing us to the tune of 14%. We had a war for independence based in good part on that 14%. Now taxes (all inclusive) are close to 50% for the average American, and the liberals can’t figure out why those of us who haven’t hit the snooze button on life don’t want to see taxes increased to pay the medical bills for illegal immigrants. Just remember lapdogs, November is looming and so is 2012.

          • JLC

            TDMW, I believe that you have a typo in your post. From what I see with my tired, old (more than 80 years ) eyes is that our wannabe Lord and Master is trying to take the country FROM the American people!

        • jsin

          dan, please stop watching fox news

          • DaveH

            Is that all you’ve got, Liberal? Dan puts a lot of time into a good comment, and all you can do is slam Fox News? Until Fox News came along, all we got was sycophantic pandering from the MSM. It is ironic to me that when Fox News lets both sides say their piece, you Liberals call them right-wingers. That is why the American people are waking up. They are finally realizing that they have been propagandized for decades by the MSM and that you Liberals have tolerance only for your own biased views.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I agree, a good teacher can stimulate the mind of any kid, if he or she wants to. Problem is, so many of them just want a check,and dont have an interest in doing their job. I would say judging by this guys comments, he is one of them. A student is only as good as his teacher.

        • Sidewinder

          LOL!!!

          No….some kids really are stupid….LOL!

          • Sidewinder

            Or what did Bush say? “Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?” —Florence, S.C., Jan. 11, 2000

            Or this Timeless Beauty: “Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

            Freud is rolling……

          • DaveH

            Do you think disparaging other people will elevate your self esteem, Sidewinder?
            You make some pretty good comments. But then you lower yourself to Liberal manipulative techniques in others. Stick to the facts, please.

      • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

        Right Wing, Geronimo was being sarcastic. Where’s your sense of humor?

  • Termite75

    We will be on our way to turning this country around when we:
    1. Close our Borders
    2. Reinstall God and Patriotism [Pledge of Allegiance] in our schools and government.
    Until then we will continue our free fall towards socialism.

    • http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/29/60minutes/main2625305.shtml cemott3rd

      Yes mindless rote patriotism is what we need! And more belief in sky Gods…

      • Texas84

        I would say you have a 50% chance if a “Sky God” exists. I’ll say he does.

        Your choice.

        • JeffH

          In the end, cemott3rd will find his place to stand. He might want to bring a basket of marshmallows and got dog along with him.

    • Sidewinder

      I think more specifically, we need to put the 2 parties on the outs. End our system of Corportism, and get back to a freer form of capitalism. Corportism is what we see when we see politicians serving special interests.

      • DaveH

        Exactly,
        Get the Government out of the Marketplace. Give the power back to the consumer. Vote Libertarian.

    • Chaos Factor

      Keep religion out of public schools…if you want to pray , then do so…you can part without making the public spectacal you seem to want… Go to a private religious school if you want…. I’m sure you’d raise a fit if a Muslim child pulled his or her prayer rug out and prayed toward Mecca.. Or a buddist child wanted to praise Budda….school needs to be devoted to learning real fact… Not personal issues of Faith….as the population changes your god may not be the popular religion so someday you may than liberals for keeping religion out of public schools and government….the words ” one nation under god” weren’t even in the pledge till the mid Fiftys…

      • angel-wanna-be

        C. FACTOR, Your words are Nothing more than Revisionist Theory Rhetoric.

      • melva

        No one said we want to make a spectacle of ourselves over religion, but we should be able to pray when and where ever we want the same as any religion. That does not mean that we or anyone else can pretend to take hours to say a small prayer or interupt anyone else while in prayer. That is not what any religion is asking for. Your idealogy is the reason there is so much anger in this country about religion. Everyone needs to respect the others religion and stop the stupid remarks and arguments.

      • Chaos Factor

        ” typo “… You can pray … Without making a public spectical..

        • jill infidel

          Apparently you haven’t heart of TIZA Acadamy… The muslims do have a publicly funded religions school… and they are doing it all over under our noses. Don’t be fooled – they are a real threat.

        • JLC

          Chaos, the word is “spectacle.” Get yourself a dictionary. Or, better yet — go back to school.

        • DaveH

          So then, Chaos, you are for voucher systems, so people can send their kids to the schools of their choice?

      • del

        yes I would raise a fit if some towel head prayed to Mecca or Budda or what ever. This is a christian founded country. If you don’t like it get out. They need to go to a muslim country or a buddist country and sounds like you need to go with them

        • JeffH

          del, this is a christian based nation but also a very diverse religeous nation. Your use of “towell head” and your comment only shows how narrow minded one can be. You could use a drink of water and maybe a e-think.

          • del

            JeffH I am sorry for getting to emotionally involved and offending you. …….Actually I am not sorry if I offended you. That is the problem today. People are to worried about saying what they truly believe because of the risk that they might offend someone. So instead they offer a candy coated version of their true feelings instead. However, I can, will, and do withdraw my “Towel head” statement. Only because after taking a drink of water I realized that towel head may not be appropriate due to the fact that the 2 or 3 Muslims in this country that are true patriots might not appreciate it. So with that the hand full of Muslims in this country that are patriotic you have my humblest apologies.

          • JeffH

            del, I’m not offended and don’t need an apology. You addressed the point I was making and that’s appropriate. I agree with that “political correctness” needs to take a hike. Tell it like it is, but your “towell head” comment was not unlike the comments about the Tea Party being a bunch of “baggers”.

          • JLC

            JeffH — As usual, you have made a good point. When I was in school, the Teacher overseeing our debating team gave a very good piece of advice: “If you can’t get your point across without name-calling or offensive language, you don’t have a point worth making.” Or, words to that effect.

          • del

            JeffH I humbly stand corrected

          • JeffH

            del, not to worry. I think we were both on the same page all along.
            Lets give ‘em hell today and in November!

        • timr

          Del……you can join the others at the Christian right KKK Rally……….What gives YOU the right, to say, that ALL Americans are Christians……….It’s Racist rhetoric like yours, that keeps this Country looking like an in-bred, Red-meck State………Go back to that Trailer-park rock you crawled from……..

          • del

            Look again you idiot and see if you can find where I said everyone is a christian. I was stating that if you don’t agree with a christian based belief fine. Just keep your northern liberal mouth shut.

          • del

            By the way do you even know what the KKK stood for originally. I bet not. you only know what the government sold the vast majority of the public on.

          • Ted Crawford

            timr; How in this,or any other,world can you drag the term “racist” into a discussion on religion? You are,clearly, the most eggregious racist it has ever been my misfortune to encounter!!!

        • timr

          Del, the KKK was for a WHITE, Anglo-saxon nation, and that is what these Tea Baggers want……to go back, to what it was like during the Boston Tea Party……..Guess What you IDIOT…….many Americans of Color, didn’t like what this Country was about back then……….and all we here, is how GREAT it was back then……….Not for ALL, my friend………….

          • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

            You say that the Tea Party Movement wants to take our country back to the bad old days. That’s odd, I don’t see it. On April 15th we held a Tea Party rally at our all-black church, and it turned into one of the best parties that I’ve attended in months. A lot of white folks showed up out of curiosity, along with some Cuban-American Marco Rubio supporters. The liberals are desperately trying to divide us along racial lines (divide and conquer), but it’s not working. There is a strong solidarity among those of us who resist big government intrusion and taxation without representation, and we come in all colors.

          • JeffH

            timr, isn’t it about time to turn your shift over to another shifty blogger?

          • del

            timr, The KKK was originally founded to beat the piss out of dead beat husbands and or wife beaters. They found bad publicity threw the actions of then a few ignorant men who got there kicks from abusing and murdering people of color. ( this still happens today)The government got involved in my opinion due to the size of the kKK and the real threat they were to the government itself. Keep in mind this group of what later turned out to be a bunch of thugs was made up of several people that held higher political offices. In the governments eyes it’s size was the threat not what they were doing. Do you really think anyone in office gives a hoot what happens to any of us regardless of color? The last klan, group, club, or however you want label it standing are the christian. Is it any wonder why we are steadily moving away from religion. People united are strong and hard to rule. These highly educated people know this.

          • timr

            Amen and good for you Jessica……..I sincerely believe what you say, but do you honestly believe that the Tea Party is multi-cultural????????……….I highly doubt it……but I do not doubt YOUR beliefs……….We all want less Government, but I would like LESS power among the corporations as well……..We de-regulated our economy, so much, that it almost came to a complete halt……Why don’t we question Power of ALl kinds, not just the Government…….because you assume that Corporate america has our best interests at heart…….Guess what, they don’t always do, but we CAN’T vote THOSE people out………If you don’t like what a Politician is doing, you can go to the Polls…….but Guess What………it’s the Corporate Lobbyists who have the control………

            Question ALL Power, Jessica…….

          • DaveH

            I sure get tired of hearing the Deregulation myth. We are a long way from deregulation:
            http://reason.org/news/printer/the-myth-of-financial-deregula

          • angel-wanna-be

            TIMR, I’ve read a lot of your posts, “Who, what, the hell are you fighting for”?___Your race baiting!!__You act like a ticked off runt of a litter of pups, who’s stuck, sucking hind teat!___If you think it’s better out front, then move!!!__Your just ranting!!!

      • timr

        Chaos Factor is right……I’m sick of these right-wing religious nuts who want to force their religion on all of us……..You all know, what Chaos said is right……if a muslim kid pulled out a rug, to pray in class, you people would have fits………..The founding Fathers were very vague on religion, because they were weary of a Theocracy. They DID not want Religion in the Public Sectors of government………..

        • Ray

          Wow you’re amazingly superior aren’t you. So now every Christian is a racist and a nut too. I get it, you’re all about freedom for gay people, every different race except whites right? So everyone is equal in your sight unless they’re a white Christian. But we’re the racists? Hilarious….

          • timr

            Ray, i’m for rights for ALL people……….and I don’t want the Government or any elected official tell me, who I should pray to…….YES there is alot of right-wing religious wack-jobs……..Does it make up ALL of the the Christian Community……???……..certainly NOT……….and Ray…….Whites have NEVER had to struggle for rights in this country…….WE have had it pretty good, wouldn’t you agree??…………..

          • del

            timr, I would say that the whites that started this country struggled quite a bit you stuttering idiot.

          • Vicki

            Timr: Irish Catholic. New York and vicinity. Investigate and get back to us. You can start your studies in the early 19th century.

        • DaveH

          I’m atheist, Tim, and the only people I know who have tried to force me to do anything I don’t want to do have been the Big Government loving Liberals.

        • angel-wanna-be

          TimR, I’m one of those Christian, BIBLE THUMPIN’, Right Wing Nuts and we don’t give a damn, who you ATHEISTS want to worship, or if you want to worship anything at all,__What we want is, for YOU ATHEISTS TO STOP TELLING US, AND THE REST OF THE WORLD, WE HAVE WIPE GOD OUT OF EVERYDAY LIFE, JUST TO SUIT YOU!___MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS!___ FOR EXAMPLE:_ IN GOD WE TRUST, THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, AT CHRISTMAS, THE NATIVITY, GOD FORBID IF WE WISH ANYONE A MERRY CHRISTMAS “THEM’S FIGHTIN’ WORDS”!__IF YOU DON’T WANT GOD IN ANYTHING, toooough sH*t!!!___ DON’T LOOK AT IT, OR TURN IT THE HELL OFF!___WE’RE NOT GOING TO STOP OUR WORSHIP, JUST BECAUSE YOU DON’T LIKE IT, WHO DIED AND LEFT YOU BOSS?_-I’M TIRED OF HANDFUL OF PEOPLE GETTING THEIR OWN WAY, WHEN THE A MAJORITY OF US, DO BELIEVE IN GOD AND ARE NO LONGER AFRAID TO SAY SO!

          • Jana

            angel-wanna-be

            AMEN. I agree. I don’t care if anyone wants to believe in God, or doesn’t. That is his or her business, but don’t tread on my rights to do so. Don’t take away ESTABLISHED holidays either. If they want to add more fine, but don’t dome in and take them away.

        • David Weber

          timr- I would have a big problem if Christians went around sawing people’s heads off with dull butterknives and posting the video on the internet. Have you seen the Nick Berg video? That is EXACTLY what muslim extremists did. Or how about the video where grownup muslim terrorists were teaching young ‘want to be terrorist’ children to do the same thing? One of the children had to hack at the poor infidel’s head for some time to get it to come off. I wonder if the new mosque near Ground Zero will provide this form of ‘day care’ for its patrons? Read the Koran. I did. The muslims will cleanse the world of all us infidels. One thing though, they despise atheists most of all. Having communism as your religion, aka atheism or government is god, won’t keep your head on your shoulders.

        • Ted Crawford

          timr; If you are interested in facts and not revisionist theory, you might want to access the Constitutions of the original colonies. In the vast majoriety of them,11 I think, one was required to be “A member in good standing of a congragation” to even run for office. It ,therefore,seems they did want Christians in public office!
          Just for your information, I’m a Diest not a Christian! That being said,facts are still facts,and history is still history!

      • allison

        Your comment has allowed me to get off the fence regarding how I feel about prayer in public schools. I think that by having a moment of silence, our gov’t-run schools are exemplifing their support of the 1st amendment. Whether a person chooses to take a moment for prayer or not is their choice, as is to which religions’ God they pray. Furthermore, the Pledge of Allegiance is ONLY appropriate in a gov’t run school. To take away the moment of silent meditation in public schools, and the Pledge of Allegiance, is to slowly take away our youth’s knowledge of our history. It’s taking away teachable moments – it’s taking away the opportunities for young maleable minds to ask “why” or “why not?”.

        • JeffH

          allison, I agree and well said.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        The muslim kids are allowed to do that, because we cant offend them. Its been done allready. But dont you dare let an American kid bring a Bible to school, pray, or talk about Jesus. Its allready here. The double standard applies here also, that is rampant all over this country.

        • Jana

          Beberonie,
          We are seeing it more and more. The problem is we have set back and allowed our rights to be taken away. The TEA Party movement is standing up and saying enough already.
          God Bless the TEA PARTY MOVEMENT.

          • http://hubscher1@earthlink.net bob hubscher

            I am slowly moving in your direction for the reasons you mentioned. There are to many political games being played in Congress and the Odunbdunb has not done ONE thing that has benefited this country yet.I really thing everyone writing in this site should go to the history channel or the many places such as the public library and review what a dictator ship is really is.Check out the likes of Hilter, Stalin,Musolinni,the Chineese Emperors,.The first and most violent acts are always
            against there own people to keep them in line. Also learn about slavery and the original slaves. It has been around since the beginning of time.One country conquored another and all of their people became slaves.IT DID not start in our country’s brief history
            SORRY. If you traced your family line back far enough we all could find indenture relatives in our family
            trees that were slaves. Finally this all out attack on Corporations are juvenile. First they owned by us a stockholders and what other entity employs most of the citizens in this country.
            Finally these old fuddy duddies in history did a pretty good job of getting us where we are today. Are we perfect. Heck no.But we are much better off than we could have been.Our so called poor people are every other countrys’ middle class. Why do you think all of the world is killing themselves to come here.? Yes we all need to stay involved to keep improving in all areas of country as we move forward. We also have to own up to our mistakes with the biggest one now is HOW DID WE EVER ELECT THIS NITWIT AS PRESIDENT and his thug buddies to lead this government!
            The truth in combination with real facts will set you free. Also keep in mind opinions are like rear ends. Everybody has one.

        • Vicki

          Do you have some links to stories supporting the double standard? It would help us to educate some who are here to learn.

    • Right Wing

      Put the two party system on the outs is right. The general consensus here, unless you are a liberal provocateur, is that the government has become the overbearing juggernaut that the founders tried to prevent. It is time to turn the ship around.

      • Sidewinder

        Right on Right Wing…..

        The Corportist system allows much more power in the hands of a central government, than was ever intended by the founders of the American Government. Somewhere along the way many decades ago, the decision was made to slowly change our system. Our Constitution no longer suits our present form of government, and they find ways to work around it, and when neccessary run over it.
        If they replaced it, they would awaken the people, so they leave it in place for now.

        But some of us are light sleepers….

      • JeffH

        The two party system has been meaningless for decades now. Oh sure, we the little people have subscribed to a two party system, but both parties are really controlled by a few people with a much higher goal to control the world’s economies and thustly reach their goal of a “One World Government”. Think about the global economic problems around the world. The Rothschilds, Rockefellars, Soros’ have the wherewithall to accomplish a dream that has existed for hundreds of years. Think IMF and EU…Europe, Greece, France, Germany. The USA is the last hurdle in the quest for global control, power and greed.

        • timr

          I agree with you Jeff, but the Corporations now, are taking control of what Governments used to do…….There needs to be checks-and-balances……Both the Republican & Democratic parties are beholden to Big business and the Lobbyists……….BOTH are corrupt, and Both cater to the Power Brokers……………

          • JeffH

            …and then there are the Omama puppeteers controlling the elections, the candidates, the economy just through their 501s and 527s contributions. It’s much bigger than the corporations. We tend to think local when the real problem is the globalists need for greed and power over the wolrld. Unfortunately for them, Americans have a certain kind of freedom these guys can’t buy or control.

          • DaveH

            Corporations only have power through the force of Government. Shrink Government back to its Constitutionally intended size, and that corporate power will go away.

          • Vicki

            Hundreds of evil corporations have spent years trying to force people to buy health insurance. They didn’t succeed. Now thru Obama’s Healthcare the government will point a gun at your head and force you to buy health insurance.

            “evil” corporations is just another scare tactic of the elites in government who want to control us. Government shows itself to be nothing but force.

          • denniso

            Wrong again Dave…shrink gov’t so much that it loses too much power and you leave the field to corporations to run amok and commit abuses against people and the environment…look at history before we had a gov’t to rein in big business.

          • Average Joe

            Who took the oath of office? Was it our elected officials or was it the corporations? Who has the responsibility to the American people?…Is it our elected officials or is it the corporations?
            What it boils down to is this…..Our elected officials are supposed to look out for the American people, instead they are taking bribes from the corporations in order to enrich thier own lives while allowing the corporations to write the legislation that we the people must live under. The problem is not that the corporations have “taken over”….it is that our elected officials have decided that they can make more money for themselves by playing both sides of the fence (they collect a ‘paycheck’ from the American people and then they get kickbacks from the corporations to pass legislation that favors the corporate interests).
            The problem IS our elected officials….they are supposed to have “morals” and not take bribes…they and they alone are responsible for all of America’s woes.
            Remember that fact in November (that those 535 people are resonsible for ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS), and vote these lazy self serving idiots out of public office.

            You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don’t ever count on having both at once.
            Robert A. Heinlein

          • DaveH

            As usual, Dumniso, you spout nonsense. This country became the wealthiest country on earth. Why? What did we do or have that no other country could? Limited Government is what. And now, as it grows larger, we have one economic mess after another.
            Big Corporations can’t force us to buy their products without the Government Bullies. In a Free Market, the consumer is King. In a government controlled Market, the people who are closest to the power brokers in the government are the ones who succeed.
            You are so ignorant, that you believe the corporate leaders who can’t force us to do anything, are mostly evil, but the people in Government who can force us are angels.
            Get real, Liberal Zealot.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I agree that this is a good place to start.

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    Obama and his administration are so out of touch with ‘real America’. Marshall Law is exactly what they are waiting to declare. They are so intimidated by the ‘baby boomers’ that they are trumping up ‘news’ that is fictional to scare the public. Yes… wait until November Barry. You will see just how well informed the voters are becoming. The days of voting party lines are over. People are fed up with your kind of ‘change’.

    • http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/29/60minutes/main2625305.shtml cemott3rd

      They ARE the baby boomers, and 28% a majority does not make, ESPECIALLY if it splits the GOP electorate!

      • JeffH

        cemott3rd , you are correct in your 28% assumption, but always remember that contrary to everything we’re being told by the news media, the numbers show that the Tea Parties represent the vast majority of Americans. Nobody has to be a Tea Party participant to agree with them.
        For those who somehow weren’t tipped off by what happened in Virginia, New Jersey, Massachusetts, the town halls and virtually every poll for the last year, the overwhelming majority of Americans oppose Obama’s Constitution-trampling war on free market health care.
        Most Americans agree with the Tea Parties on limited government and on virtually every economic issue, whether it be deficit spending, unemployment, the bailouts, taxes…everything (see here). Most Americans also agree with conservatives on national defense, abortion, gun rights…you name it.
        Even ultra-liberal states like California voted overwhelmingly against gay marriage and illegal immigration
        We are a right-of-center country. The extremists here are the ultra-partisan leftist radicals in Washington shredding our Constitution, trampling our rights and systematically annihilating the free market.

        • Jana

          JeffH,
          I have never been to a TEA Party, but I have a some close friends who do and I know for certain they are not violent or evil, they are middle America, saying enough is enough.
          As Bob Livingston said,”
          That means that Tea partiers are husbands and wives, grandfathers and grandmothers. That means Tea partiers are homemakers and business owners. That means Tea partiers are blue collar workers and white collar workers. That means Tea partiers are employed and unemployed. That means Tea partiers are veterans of World War II, Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf Wars, and military operations in between. And it means Tea partiers are self-reliant.

          And that’s what They fear. Tea partiers aren’t ready to bow down to the altar of big government like so many of the elitists want and expect… and have sought to foster for these many years.”

          I, Jana have heard it asked why didn’t we make a stand during Bush’s Presidency. BECAUSE WE DIDN’T SEE IT. As soon as we did, that is when we stood up. Before that we were busy, and not involoved in a lot of the political problems. I did however write to Bush and my Congressmen and women when I was aware of different problems and laws that were being passed that I was not for.
          I have been busy raising a family, working, and trying to be the best mother I could be. I thought our biggest threat was terrorism. All of a sudden the World was in trouble. The US was going into a depression, and yes, it got my attention as well as a lot of American Citizens.

          Yes, I believe in the Rights of our citizens to gather together in Tea Parties or whatever. Yes, I support the Tea Parties and for those don’t, either they do not know what they are talking about on what these Tea Parties represent, or they don’t want to know the truth!

          • JeffH

            Jana, so very well said. I, too, had my complaints about Bush, Clinton, Sr., and Carter but worked long hours and wasn’t interactive. That all changed early in 2008. I thought Obama would be good for this country, listening to all of his lies while lying in a hospital bed. Once I was able, I did some serious homework and BINGO! What I found out scared the begeezes out of me. This guy was a straight up radical Marxist/socialis/communist. That’s when I got active. And the Tea Party people? What can I say, some of the nicest people I have ever met.
            Thanks for your well informed comments.

      • DaveH

        Then quit splitting the vote on Republicans, Cemott, and vote for the only Party that promotes Individual Liberty, Individual Responsibility, Free Markets, and Limited Government:
        http://libertarianparty.org/platform

        • Vicki

          Vote Libertarian. Its the only way to be sure.

  • Dale

    I am 100% for the teabaggers. What I am afraid of though, is one day Obamination will turn the military against them. However, I also hope the military will then recognize his fraudulent agenda and turn against his socialism agenda. What a shame, such a great orator cannot be a great president. And for the blacks in this nation, if he does not win reelection, I am afraid he has set you guys back another 100 years. You must understand the United States of America, and THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, the corporation, when you do, you will understand how they perpetuated the biggest fraud ever on the American people.

    • http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/29/60minutes/main2625305.shtml cemott3rd

      So the “Obamanation” is a corporatist socialist? That is an oxymoron…

      • Sidewinder

        No cemott3rd

        Brought up a socialist, but governing as a corportist. Understanding what he can, and CANNOT do.
        Putting some of his personal beliefs aside in order to do the job he has now.

        Trust me, what I say is true. Ever notice, no matter who gets elected, America never really goes socialist, communist, fascist, or even gets back to being a government for the people, by the people?

        The continuity of government is ensured no matter what. True radicals are not allowed in. Many reasons for this. Bear in mind, America has a large nuclear arsonal also…..cannot have revolution every few years.

    • Al Sieber

      Are talking about what happened under Franklin Roosevelt when he sold us out to the corporations?

    • jill infidel

      If you are for us, why do you use the leftist, disgusting sexual term for us? It is the TEA party not teabaggers, what you do in you own home is your business but I have never let someone drag their ball sack over my face… maybe that’s what you like….

      • Sidewinder

        OH!!
        Crude, but to the point! LOL!

      • TIME

        Jill, Super point and well stated.

    • JLC

      Dale, scratch “Teabagger” and substitute “Tea Party” if you please. If you look “Teabagger” up — I did, just this morning — you will realize that “them thar’s fightin’ words, podner.” Other than that, I can’t argue with you.

  • theSauk

    Interesting commentary, all told, but based on your own words, are you saying that the administration of Quincy, Ill is even farther right than the Republican Party? Facists are the extreme right-wing in world politics, not left-wing. To call Obama ‘Facist’ is to say he’s even more conservative than the Tea Party. I would also like to see verifiable evidence of the “… a police riot squad—decked out in helmets with face masks and other heavy protective gear—marched in lockstep in the street in front of them…” America is not a military society and this statements reeks more of propaganda that factual reporting. I’m not saying it didn’t happen, I just find it hard to believe that it did.

    • walt

      Sauk, You need to do some reading about Facism, I don’t think you really understand what Facism is.

    • jbird
    • George E

      Sauk,

      This video (http://www.wimp.com/thegovernment/) should help explain why we don’t see Fascists as right-wing.

    • Sidewinder

      theSaulk
      I think you are looking at it in terms of absolutes. You are seeing a left side and a right side of a spectrem.

      I prefer to see it as a circle. With socialism and fascism right next to each other, and corporatism a varient of the two.
      And within corportism, a left and right side. Just mild shades of differences.

      Its a matter of recalibrating our perspectives. I believe theres a reason we were never taught these things in school. We cannot fight something if we don’t even understand what it is. And propaganda talk radio, and tv, continues to pit the right against the left and vice versa, in absolutes, to keep us blind. While we fight amoungst ourselves, the Machine rolls on…unchallanged.

      • DaveH

        Unfortunately, the English language is not a perfect language. Whether we have a Fascist government, a Communist government, a Corporatist government, or a Socialist government, the real problem is that it is just too damn Big and Powerful. We need to shrink the size of Government and get our individual Liberty back.

  • Chuck

    No. I don’t believe that Obama and his cronies are the least bit amused. What we are seeing is nervous bravado. They just don’t want America to see how much they fear the American taking a stand. The terrorist have been shouting that the streets of America will run wit blood for years. If we don’t come to our senses, socialism will bankrupt our country just like it has Greece and there will be rioting here that will make Greece look like a kindergarten squabble. California, the largest liberal state, is on the verge right now.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      California is getting ripe for a civil war, as the hispanics have taken over the southern part, having seats as city council, mayors, lawyers, judges, and now climbing up to congressman and more, and they pretty much got it under their control. However, their loyalty to Mexico instead of the United States will be their downfall as a United State, as they strive to let more and more illegals in, and somehow the federal government is taking other state’s moneys and pouring into California to help them. Its suicide, and California is committing it right under everyones eyes, but in the perfect sense of political correctness that the left started and perfected, nobody is allowed to say a thing lest they be labeled a racist. Look at the state of things there, and tell me Im wrong, and Ill say your a liar.

      • JeffH

        Berboni, being a life long Californian, I disagree with the “civil war” idea. Most Californians are nothing more than the trough feeding sheep we have to listen to on this website every day. The people are getting fed up, but whether there are enough to start a california recovery, I don’t think so. I know I and quite a few others like myself are ready to “exit stage 1″ if the November elections don’t start a new trend towards conservatism here.

  • American Liberal

    If anything this small group of malcontents is losing steam…this groups real leaders are just using the ” party” as a mouth piece to protect their tax status….and in typical rightwing logic this artical whines about being called names while calling this lawfully elected administration a ” regime”….a facist regime… And other silly accusations … Then to complain about the police keeping an eye on these domestic terrorist ?.. These rightwingers that supported Bush..( and they did) were only to happy to support caged protest zones for people protesting Bush and his real facist policys and real tyranny…if a progressive protester had so much as a a tee shirt on during the Bush administrations years in office they would be arrested, turned away from republican events and tear gassed…Bushs secret service watched for cars with bumper stickers like ” No Blood for oil” and before these people even left the parking lots they would be turned away, arrested or harrased ….now because the baggers.. and that’s what dangles from their baseball hats.. Want to carry weapons to protest they have the gall to wonder why the police are watching them…?..progressives don’t need to protest armed.. And now I’ll tell them what they told me when I protested Bushs real tyranny… If you don’t break the law then you need not worry…as the economy continues to improve these rightwing articals will become even more ” hysterical”… I’m not so sure the November election will be the landslide some of you on the right think… With the 24 hr news things can change overnight…

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      American Liberal… You are underestimating the Tea Party movement. I am not in a position to attend rallies and such, but I am behind them and I do send e mails out. And, I know I am not the only one who can’t physically be with the group, but I can vote and I agree with their agenda….

      • DaveH

        Yeah, tell that to Bob Bennett, Liberal:
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100509/pl_nm/us_usa_politics_utah_1

        Hopefully, McCain will be next.

        • Al Sieber

          DaveH, all the people in Ariz. that count are gonna make sure McCain doesn’t get elected again.

          • denniso

            The tea party will be ancient history in a year…anybody remember the name of Ross Perot’s third party?? No, we mostly don’t, yet he garnered something like 19% of the vote in ’92 as a third party candidate.

          • DaveH

            Ross Perot was no better a choice than Bush Sr., or Clinton.

          • DaveH

            Al,
            I sure hope (and dream, too) that you are right. I have even considered campaigning for Hayworth, but then that would be going against my grain because I don’t believe even the conservative Republicans are capable of getting this country back to Freedom.

          • denniso

            I would bet that if DaveH was alive in ’92 that he supported Perot…now he doesn’t like him?

    • Right Wing

      AL you are still living in the past. When are you going to wake up and see the forest through the Bush? It looks to me as though you are trying (thanks to possible funding through Joyce) to start your own poll? Your goal is, and always has been to antagonize and minimize on this site. There are only a handfull of possible reasons any liberal would post here: 1.) you lack any cerebral communication on liberal sites 2.)you secretly agree with rightys but need affirmation 3.) you are employed by some liberal foundation to disrupt and/or feel it is is your duty to do so 4.) you simply think it is fun to be the pepper in the soup 5.) This is the least likely….you believe that you are contributing to a group that desires meaningful change and you insist everyone should agree with your goading counter points as the correct answer.

      I am sure that you are not trying to make converts here with your comments? If you are then you should know the definition of insanity, “repeating the same process over and over while expecting different results”. You might want to consider why you even visit this site and do a self assessment; it could be you need help.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Right Wing…
        Your post to AL was great. You summed up his ridiculous rhetoric that he posts every time he shows up on this site! I usually don’t read all his posts because they don’t change from one subject to another. He just don’t get it, but dyed in the wool libs don’t…

      • Commonsense

        I hope you have noticed how his spelling has improved, and the grammar as well? He also comes because he is a closet “Tea Party wanna be” and that’s fine. It’s obvious that he comes to this site to make sense of his life. You just can’t do that at those liberal sites. You stay with us al and some day, you to will be able to use common sense.

      • Sidewinder

        Well in American Liberals defense, I think he likes the dual of debating.
        I often don’t agree with him, but he does make many valid points from time to time. But thats only my opinion.
        I don’t think he’s a bad guy. I think we all want better government.

        • Sidewinder

          Now I’m gonna get kicked…LOL!!

          • American Pie

            We all have this right to discuss these issues as a result of the Bill of Rights. The US Constitution is being trampled upon by the 600 or so elected and appointed “Leaders” in Congress and on the Hill.These people were elected within a 2 party system supported with corporate money. The Tea Party is not a political party at all, but a movement of like minded people who fear that further twisting of it’s constitution towards international corporatism will further reduce our freedom. We may well be living in a glass house protected from collapse by corporate puppeteers. To blame current financial problems on Bush is rediculous. Freddie and Fannie have been setting us up for that fall since Clinton. Clinton, oddly enough, did good things for the federal budget, but but the personal finances of Americans who found themselves in a position to suddenly “own a home” were derailed by reality. We cannot play house if we cannot pay for it. Their failure created the domino effect that precipitated our current financial crisis. Who got bailed out? Corporations did. Americans were left holding the bag. These Americans have, not only the right, but the responsibility to take back some control over the country that they pledge alliegence to. This will upset the Democrats and the Republicans. Corruption does not care what party it belongs to. Be an American. Understand what is going on and VOTE accordingly. If that makes me a teabagger to someone, so be it.

          • Claire

            Sidewinder– I won’t “kick” you that is for sure. I agree with you. I do have to say that it will not make much difference who gets elected this fall or in 2012. It is going to take years to get out of this mess. Republicans? Democrats? Neither party is reputable. It was both parties that played a very active role in getting this country where it is today. I don’t blame any one party, especially when both are at fault.
            As far as watching some videos, I scrutinize them. Some of the videos that are on the Internet are full of half-truths with a touch of propaganda added for effect. The same with other “stuff” that is posted on the Internet. Some of it is “over the top.” I really wonder if there is much a person can believe from what is on the Internet, radio, TV, newspapers, magazines, etc. They ALL lean left or right.
            Quincy, Illinois? Odd, I live not far from Quincy and I sure didn’t hear anything detrimental.
            With all the hate that is floating around, any President would have to be protected.
            I think that if commom sense does not prevail, we are in for a shitload of trouble. And we will be causing some of it ourselves.

      • DaveH

        Right Wing,
        I think American Liberal is a conservative plant sent here to make Liberals look Ignorant. I applaud the great job he is doing.

        • libertytrain

          DaveH yep, probably so.

        • JeffH

          DaveH, good one, I couldn’t help but laugh at that one…lol!

          • denniso

            Boy, are you guys smart…

          • libertytrain

            Well, Denniso when all you can do is shout ‘racist’ all day long – what else is there to figure than you just are plants – not very bright ones. But the Lord knows you try.

      • David Weber

        or 6) you get ‘tingles’ up your leg when you are the butt of jokes after posting on non-communist websites or 7) liberalism is a mental disorder or 8) you enjoy providing laughs for non-communists (aren’t you sweet) or ….

    • angel-wanna-be

      Your quite funny American Lib,__the progressives marched in the damned streets with a replica of Bush hanging from a hangmans noose__ and how about the movie based on the Asassination of Bush__all of this was OK I presume, and just ofted as political jargon?__But the Nasty SCARY Tea Partiers are pegged as domestic terrorists??__
      I DO BELIEVE AMERICAN LIBERAL, THAT YOUR ONE SANDWICH SHY OF A PICNIC!

      • http://yahoo peterb

        He’s not the brightest tool in the toolbox

      • JLC

        Angel, the expression that I grew up with was, “A bale shy of a load,” but I’m going to remember yours. I’m still chuckling!

        • angel-wanna-be

          JLC, “One Can Shy of a Six pack, is another good one!___lol

          • Jeep

            Maybe, “one taco short of a combo plate?”

        • Average Joe

          One Burger short of a Happy Meal

    • del

      You have one heck of a imagination! Bush this Bush that. …Oh ya how about when someone said obummer was a high yellow and and and he had them shot on the spot. Or or or when he made all the white people bow down to the blacks at a dinner in the white house.

      • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

        That’s the flakiest rant I’ve read here in a long time. You been hittin’ the booze, or what?

        • del

          I was mocking American liberal. Try to keep up. lol

          • DaveH

            Del, leave the fabrication of facts to the Liberals.

    • JeffH

      He’s back…keep on believing.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Landslide it is Mr. Liberal. Whether it be at the hands of the Tea Party or the Republicans, the Democrats are done, finished, caput. They lost New Jersey, Virginia and of all places Massachusetts, 1-2-3. If you dont see a pattern of thinking by this great nation right there, then you are truly in denial.

      • DaveH

        Beberoni,
        I wouldn’t call Scott Brown a good thing for the Republicans. He is just furthering the erosion of the Republican Party.

  • TIME

    Having lived, as well traveled all over Europe during the last 40 years – the one thing I can say with out even thinking about it is the following;( AMERICANS will never be like the mass of Europeans.)

    Why?
    We have been grown on FREEDOM, we have been grown on being able to do as we please, as in if you want to be a Scientest, or a Doc, or a Fireman, or an Artist, thats all within your abilitys to do so. There are no social status road blocks. Only quasi road blocks made up by the Press and the Spin Doc’s from the Political pretzel logic think tanks.

    In Europe your born in to the job you will have for life, just as your father did and his fater did before him.
    Unless your from the Ruling Class your still a turd in Europe.

    Why do you think the people in Europe want to come to the US, and those that say they don’t if given the chance would be here in a heart beat.
    Don’t kid yourself with the twisted hype the media works out for you.

    Strange how all the people I know from China have said the same thing over and over, “Americans have no idea how good they have it.”
    Strange I get tha from folks from Russia too, as well all the Eastern block countrys that are now free from Marxist control.

    Why do you think all the Britsh Rock Stars live here in the US?

    Its sure not due to things being so great in the UK, either tax wise, or fitting into the “UPPER CLASS” system, as they don’t even with the Title “SIR.”
    They are still looked at as nothing more than common trash by the English Government, but trash that can bring some possible TAX moneys in.

    So with the gang of thugs we have in DC that want to bring that system here so we can all enjoy the “ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT” gig.

    Real Americans even ones who have only been so for a short period of time as in {{ LEGAL Imigrants }} are forced to join Tea Party’s and or 9/12 groups to try and keep America from dropping into the abyss of a Marxist / Socialist form of Government.

    Thats why BarryO and his gang of thugs not only in congress and the senate but his UNION Thugs let alone – the tightly controlled MEDIA lap dogs, work so hard to belittle and sully anyone who dare challenge or expose thier game plan.

    • http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/29/60minutes/main2625305.shtml cemott3rd

      “In Europe your born in to the job you will have for life, just as your father did and his fater did before him.
      Unless your from the Ruling Class your still a turd in Europe”

      This is nonsense! I lived in Europe for 4 years and the system tests students to see what they can and want to be and provides FREE education to them so they can do what they can and want to do regardless of social status. Now having a business that is not in your field is a bit more difficult than here, but I always thought Doctors and Lawyers should stay out of real estate and restaurants…

      • Right Wing

        Go back.

      • melva

        If you think it is so wonderful why are you here in the United States? No one is forcing you to stay. LEAVE

        • s c

          Melva, all that wannabe progressive did was prove that it’s possible to spend 4 years in a European school and NOT get an education. If he’s an example of what is being ‘produced’ in Europe, then their schools have been severely dumbed-down, too. That space cadet might be able to get a ‘job’ as an education czar, a politician or a Fannie Mae intern, but he won’t be able to get a REAL job.

      • http://yahoo peterb

        Having been born and raised in Europe and immigrated here LEGALLY I can
        only say, you have no idea of what you’re talking about. Four years huh?
        ‘typical observation of a tourist.
        You are totally ignorant as to why people all over the world want to come to the U.S.A.
        I haven’t seen a mass exodus leaving this country, have you?
        But you are most welcome to start one.

        • DaveH

          Thanks, Peter.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Gee, if its so great, why did you come back here? Proof enough for me. You must have been one of the turds.

      • Time

        Bubba, Nothing is FREE, no matter where you live. Schools are paid for by the workers tax’s paid to the Government.

        As for the rest of your mindless rant its 100% total BS.

      • Jeep

        “FREE education”? I don’t think so…someone pays for all that “FREE” stuff.

  • http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/29/60minutes/main2625305.shtml cemott3rd

    I’m confused you’re now calling the liberals “corporatist”? Most of the pro-corporate, free trade, no regulations, market driven retoric and movement has always been from the right, but now you are saying this is a leftist agenda?! I mean if you FINALLY beginning to understand that it isn’t OUR government that is so much a problem but the corporations and their lobbists that control it, then GREAT! You’re barking up the right tree! I mean if you now realized someone like Rep. Billy Tauzin (Dixiecrat turned Republican, turned head of the PHARMA lobby group for $2 MILLION A YEAR!) who SHOVED the Medicare drug bill down Congress’s throat in the middle of the night when everyone was asleep with the finesse of an extortive mob henchman, and with no way to pay for that new Bush/Cheney entitlement that runs up the deficit MILLIONS daily, is the real enemy of the American people, I say WONDERFUL! http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/29/60minutes/main2625305.shtml BUT to insinuate that this is NOW some lefty liberal Democratic agenda is well silly, to say the least…

    • Sidewinder

      cemott3rd
      The problem is the vast majority of Americans have no real idea what kind of system we have in America. There is so much propaganda on the airwaves, most have been led to believe this is a battle of left wing VS right wing idealogy.

      It is not.

      BOTH the left leaning Democrats, including Barney Frank and Cris Dodd, and the right leaning Republicans are all corportists. They serve special interest, they do not serve you.

      The problem, the confusion, lies in our perspective. America is not free market capitalist, nor is is socialist, or even heading socialist. It is Corportist, and the 2 parties fight over whether it will be a more left leaning or more right leaning Corportist State.

      Heres a decent definition of Corportatism and how it differs from socialism:
      Socialism is a system where the government directly owns and manages businesses. Corporatism is a system where businesses are nominally in private hands, but are in fact controlled by the government. In a corporatist state, government officials often act in collusion with their favored business interests to design polices that give those interests a monopoly position, to the detriment of both competitors and consumers.

      Yes, both the Democrats and Republicans are Corportists. I have long said our 2 party system does not represent the people, it represents special interest.

      The Tea Party is a threat as it stands right now, because it is operating OUTSIDE that corportist system. The filters and checks within our system, are working hard to prevent any outsiders from gaining access and changing the Corportist State. Change would equal revolution. Revolutionaries are considered terrorists.

      The 2 parties will work very hard independently, or together if necessary to destroy the Tea Party as it currently stands. Hijacking it and filling it with corportists is the way I fear the republicans will destroy it. Discrediting the Tea Party as racists and terrorists is the way the Democrats are trying.

      God willing the Tea Party will survive…..

      • Sherron

        Very well said Sidewinder and I agree with you!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        If the Tea Party allows God in their party, and its people are filled with the Holy Spirit of God, and govern for the people and not themselves as God would have it, and they ask God to lead them, He will deliver the other partys as footstools for them to put their feet on. That how it is, but it seems those in politics would rather shun God and lock Him away in a closet, then they wonder why things are in the shape they are in. Gee, I wonder why?

        • Sidewinder

          Hmmm
          I think God is a personal issue.
          You cannot save a nation unless you first save the individual.

          • Sidewinder

            How can you “Get God into a political party?”

            Got anything else???

          • angel-wanna-be

            Sidewinder, the old proverbial, so goes the people, so goes the nation.

          • Claire

            I have always heard not to mix religion with politics.

          • angel-wanna-be

            Claire, Judeo-Christian religion is naturally mixed in with politics, our Judicial system is based from the Bible. When the mass Exodus of slaves from Egypt, led by Moses, in time, could not handle all of the disputes of and between the thousands of people. Moses father in law, Jethro said to him, to choose among the most able bodied men_ is so written below_

            2. (17-23) Jethro advises Moses to delegate the job of settling disputes.
            So Moses’ father-in-law said to him, “The thing that you do is not good. Both you and these people who are with you will surely wear yourselves out. For this thing is too much for you; you are not able to perform it by yourself. Listen now to my voice; I will give you counsel, and God will be with you: Stand before God for the people, so that you may bring the difficulties to God. And you shall teach them the statutes and the laws, and show them the way in which they must walk and the work they must do. Moreover you shall select from all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them to be rulers of thousands, rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens. And let them judge the people at all times. Then it will be that every great matter they shall bring to you, but every small matter they themselves shall judge. So it will be easier for you, for they will bear the burden with you. If you do this thing, and God so commands you, then you will be able to endure, and all this people will also go to their place in peace.”

            The Truth is in the Bible, it’s our choice to believe it, or not.

    • D.Cherney

      your right…
      this is like a role reversal, right calling the left corporalist”

      take the below statement as well, topsy tervy_ problem is I don’t think the republican know who they are or what they believe anymore and they sure are upset that they had such a humiliating last presidency!

      ” people who oppose the actions of an increasingly fascist regime and a corporatist Congress” sounds like a socialist to me…

      • Sidewinder

        I think the Republicans know exactly who they are.

        I think the republicans just don’t know what to tell us right now.

        • http://yahoo peterb

          Sidewinder, you are one of only the few that makes any sense.
          Thanks for your input.

        • JeffH

          Sidewinder, I agree wholeheartedly. I think a lot of Republicans realize they’re sitting on opposite sides in the same boat. November elections will prove that point as many of the “old guard” will go he way od the socialist minded Dems. Many are trying desperately to hijack the Tea Party movement, without success and I think it’s too little too late. Look for some new faces to emerge with some Tea Party support.

          • JeffH

            meant to be… I think a lot of Republicans realize they’re sitting on opposite sides in the same boat with the Democrats.

          • Sidewinder

            Thank you both.
            Denniso, is worth listening to. He/she, may come from the left side of things, but has made some very keen observations.

          • Sidewinder

            Don’t Tread On Me.

          • DaveH

            Sidewinder,
            Denniso is a Liberal Zealot who spends most of his comments personally attacking people. I’ve seen very little worthwhile comments under the Denniso name.

          • denniso

            Sidewinder…Thanks for the compliment, but now you’ve made people like DaveH mad. You’ve also made some good comments..keep it up,we need sane people here who actually have something to say.

          • DaveH

            Dumniso,
            You are one of the most delusional posters on this board. And you think you are sane? Who’s running the asylum?

  • SHOWME

    American Liberal says:
    May 10, 2010 at 6:25 am

    May god bless you as you struggle to accept reality. It will take divine intervention for you to come out of darkness

    • American Liberal

      Showme….I’m not interested in your GOD… Especially any god that would have such hatefull followers as you on the right…you are hatefilled people… And using christianity to promote your hate… I don’t want it, and I don’t want your vile hatefull religion in my government or schools ….

      • del

        and we don’t want you in our CHRISTIAN FOUNDED COUNTRY either

        • timr

          Del……..this is NOT a Christian Founded country……..Was it the Christians that raped and pillaged the Indians??????……Was THAT a Christian-thing to do????????

          • del

            Once again the actions of a few give a bad name to everyone. Oh and yes it was a christian founded country.

        • timr

          Ask the Indians, if it was the action done by the few………

          • del

            Well I need to go no farther than my grandmother to get that answer.

          • Jeep

            I’m confused by your rhetoric…are you saying that all white Christians are, or were rapists?

      • angel-wanna-be

        American liberal___BLAH, BLAH, BLAH___

        • angel-wanna-be

          Hey AM LIB, heres some good reading on the Original Intent of our Founders__”Original Intent”_by David Barton__”Lives of the Signers of the Declaration of Independence” < original reprint of 1848)_David Barton__"Setting the record Straight American History in Black and White"_David Barton____Try reading some info that HASN'T BEEN REVISED!!!__you'll find the hell out, wether or not we we're founded on Christian principles. Sadly, In your case I'd doubt you'd believe anything you read.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Are you one of those guys, that when it comes judgment day, and God takes those who never believed in Him, and tells them that He will give them their hearts desire, and send them to a place where He will never bother them again or have to hear His name again, that thinks that this is a mean and hateful God? I mean, he gives us what we want in our heart, so how is giving someone what they lived their life for as a way of eternity, hateful and mean? I call it just rewards. You know, you reap what you sow. You get out of life what you put into it. You tell God he isnt real and not worth your time, so He will give you want you want. So dont label Him like you do. He will give us all what our hearts desire. If you desire to be apart from Him, have at it man, but dont complain and call names. Live with what you want.

        • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

          Everybody, please, enough with the religion. I come here to read intelligent people discuss hard politics, not listen to bible-thumpers and Jesus-haters argue. You’re both wrong, and you’re both right. Let it go.

        • Sidewinder

          Yeah, seriously, when people keep bringing up the religion when trying to talk politics, and cannot make a coherent case, they wind up coming off looking like nutcases. That may put off some people sitting on the sidelines who might want to read the Bible, but fear sounding like a fruit sometime down the road.

          When your actions wind up turning people away from the Bible, who you serving Blaberoni?

      • DaveH

        Most of the Vile, Hateful behavior I’ve seen on these boards comes from you and your fellow Liberal Zealots, Am Lib.
        But keep it up. That way I don’t have to work so hard to convince people what lowlifes Liberals are.

      • David Weber

        American Liberal – my ‘vile religion’ teaches me to not lie, steal, kill, commit adultery and also many other morals which are necessary for a civilized society. Communism on the other hand promotes ‘social justice’ aka ‘redistributing the wealth’ aka ‘stealing’; promotes ‘pro-choice’ aka ‘abortion’ aka ‘the murder of unborn children’; just a few of the many ‘virtues’ communism has. So why is God=bad but communism=good?

      • denniso

        Del…you can’t chase people out of our country who don’t like your god or anyone else’s god…that’s one thing that separates us from some other countries…like or lump it.

  • http://gmail i41

    cmt3rd, Yes liberals are corportists, see who is on the board of directors, Hillary, was on Wal-Marts boarad, the housing Sec. under the Clinton’s, who lost 300 million and had not a clue where it went, sat as on the board, in 2004 along with a couple more Clinton sppointees,were on the board. Donn’t pay their taxes , Geithner,got a big golden parachute, before becoming Treasure Sec, and this crook is going to watch over everyone else. You still have warm fuzzy feelings, thinking dems care about the common tax payer?

    • Chaos Factor

      It is amazing how these rightwingers whine about name calling but have called our president every childish name their tiny little minds could think up…. They’ve all of a sudden discovered words like facism, tyranny but braced both during a republican administration … And make no mistake…. These tea baggers are nothing but republicans being used by people that only care about more wealth going to the very rich….

      • http://yahoo peterb

        Having a problem having an intelligent conversation??

        • Sidewinder

          LOL! You’re funny!
          I know what he’s saying.
          When Democrats do it, they cry. When Republicans do it…..they are mute.
          Its true.

          • DaveH

            Yes, there is some name-calling and ridicule from the right. But the Left owns it. They are hands down the champions of Childish Manipulative tactics.

      • David Weber

        Chaos Factor- from reading your posts I understand why you don’t post with your real name. I wouldn’t want anyone to know I had posted that stuff either.

      • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

        Screw that “redistribution of wealth” crap. I don’t like paying 50% of my hard-earned money just so some fat loser can sit on his butt, watching TV and eating government cheese on my dime. Socialism sucks! Just ask the Greeks.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Tom Daschle and many more of them didnt pay their taxes either. Shame is, if you or I did this, we would be in jail, yet they get a free pass.

  • Chaos Factor

    Most of the ” Baggers” are ” nutcases”… And being funded by the rich … Most of these tax protesters don’t understand their taxes have gone down and it’s rich anti tax republicans disguised as Tea protesters just fanning the flames…. And these rich people funding the Tea protesters whould be the last ones to actually take up arms aginst our lawfully elected government….. They like to use terms like ” Keep Your Powder Dry”.. But they would be on the sidelines cheering on any armed revolution ( which would be a disaster for you)…this is all about protecting the rich at the expense of poor rightwingers that don’t even understand political process…they follow Glenn Beck and he openly mocks them… Hannity called the tea baggers Timothy McVeigh wanna be’s ….and if bet the larger part of the baggers are on one government program or another… Like social security, Medicare or used Unemployment insurance at some point…a lot of the people on this site claim to have some sort of disability judging from the posts on the medical articals on this site …wake up baggers… You’re being used by people who want you to fight their battles abs keep you poor and themselves rich….

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Chaos Factor… What is a bagger? Do you have any clue what you speak about? Perhaps your opinions would be better accepted on a liberal site. You should have learned something by visiting this site, but it is obvious that you are wearing blinders.

    • Markus

      Chaos Factor: Your name epitomizes your statements. Why don’t you do yourself a favor, and just go turn on MSNBC, eat your meds, smoke out, gain another 100 pounds and maybe, just maybe you’ll wake up one day, look in the mirror, and finally realize that your a complete, utter failure at everything in your life, and that it is YOUR fault, not ours.
      Get a life moron, your complete lack of reality is just stunning. Move out of this country if you don’t like us-Canada and Mexico are dying to have a loser like you!
      Liberalism is a mental disorder.
      Liberalism is Facism.
      Liberalism is going to get us killed.
      And you my friend are a complete zero. Grow up.

    • Sidewinder

      Chaos Factor…..There should NEVER be ANY talk about any kind of armed revolution. That IS for nutcases.
      Any violence against the most powerful government in the world would be met with force. And squashed very quickly. Peaceful revolution that works within the limits of the law and uses the system to change the system cannot be stopped as easily.

      I think its of utmost importance that the Tea Party get some strong central leadership quickly and weed out the nutcases, hijackers, and Democratic infiltrators and agitators if they expect to survive. They are wide open right now.

      I think your perspective of what the Tea Party actually is, is wrong.

      When America gradually changed from what we once were to a corportist state without the consent of the people, and when the constitution no longer suits our present form of government, and its being worked around, or run over when necessary, then this form of government is not a ” lawfully elected government.”

      Peaceful revolution. Use the system to change the system.

      Unless of course you like the fact that our leaders serve special interest ond not the people.

      Corportism:
      Corporatism is a system where businesses are nominally in private hands, but are in fact controlled by the government. In a corporatist state, government officials often act in collusion with their favored business interests to design polices that give those interests a monopoly position, to the detriment of both competitors and consumers.

      • Chaos Factor

        Sidewinder… I agree, their shouldn’t be any talk about an armed takeover of our elected government, But don’t kid yourself… That’s exactly the message the Tea baggers and and the Rushs, Hannitys Fox news and all those other rightwing goons are trying to insinuate .you know it and I know it…the powder they talk about keeping dry… It’s not about baking a cake… And the Rushs, Hannitys and rich republicans riling these people up would be well behind any revolution they start.. If they would be so foolish to do something that stupid..

        • angel-wanna-be

          Chaos Factor, My husband and I happen to be a Conservative Repubs and we are far from rich, we don’t live off Government entitlement programs either!

        • Sidewinder

          Chaos Factor
          “That’s exactly the message the Tea baggers and and the Rushs, Hannitys Fox news and all those other rightwing goons are trying to insinuate .you know it and I know it…the powder they talk about keeping dry… It’s not about baking a cake…”

          Well I think you are reading too much into the keep some powder dry phrase. I take that to mean stay self sufficient. Guard the Republic. I don’t take it literally…..

          I do agree with you…that the Right Wing radio and tv personalities, serve as agitators. I see them as serving the system, by creating confusion and an incorrect perspective amoung the masses. Its too bad to, so many listen to divisive personalities like Rush. The Left has its own outlets for this same purpose.

          My unfortunate advice for any fools contemplating armed insurrection is this: If you want to commit suicide, do it at home, and not on national tv. You will not further the cause of freedom by those actions. In fact you will only serve to undermine it. You will discredit those who believe in a constitutional for the people, by the people government, and you will bring down a whole new stack of anti gun and anti speech legislation on the rest of us.

          Use your brain.

          • Save America Susie

            One thing I know for sure–NONE of the talk shows are advocating violence. They make that quite clear, and even underline it, constantly. This will only be by the VOTE and by PEACEFUL demonstration. I think the left is spreading rumors of the opposite, but it is not true. The talk shows stress NO VIOLENCE! PEACEFUL DISAGREEMENT instead. Maybe the left doesn’t know that, because they never listen to them and so they are just making it up as they go along. As for myself, I listen to ALL types of news, not just one point of view. That is the difference between some on the left, they only listen to he left. They don’t get a full spectrum of types of news.

          • Ray

            That’s the problem with you liberals. There CAN’T be any anti-gun anti-speech legislation according the CONSTITUTION. You know, the thingy that gives us the rights we have which are inalienable???? Oh that’s right, you’re liberal and nature don’t care about such things. If you think there should never be any talk of revolution I guess you’re not a big fan of Thomas Jefferson huh? I guess he was a racist red neck too right? Well are a couple quotes of his. I suggest you read up on American history. Or perhaps you like the rest of the Obama worhippers don’t care about such things as liberty, freedom, reasonable taxation. etc…… Either way here a couple of nice Jefferson quotes for those who do believe our founding fathers knew what they were doing.

            “Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.” – Thomas Jefferson

            “A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned – this is the sum of good government. ” – Thomas Jefferson

          • Save America Susie

            Ray, I love your thoughts! Great Jefferson quotes too!!

        • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

          The phrase “keep your powder dry” is just American jargon for making sure you protect yourself, nothing more. There is a saying among the old folks: “praise the Lord and pass the ammunition”. That doesn’t mean they want to go out and shoot somebody.

        • DaveH

          History is riddled with examples of Socialist purges. The Liberals warn of the dangers of the Right-Wingers becoming violent, like a Magician distracts you with one hand while deceiving you with the other.
          It is the Socialists and Marxists that almost exclusively have conducted purges throughout History.

          • anitamurie

            What the hell are you talking about? Tell me all about the “Socialist purges” in history. Who’d you hear that from-Glen Beck? You’re an idiot.

          • Jeep

            anitamurie, and you are ignorant. Ever hear of the “Great Purge” in Russia? Or, maybe the Ba’ath Party purges? Ever hear of Pol Pot? Or, maye Mao doesn’t count in your world? Do you ever read about the North Koreans? Or, perhaps the socialist genocides in Africa throught the last century were too small for you to concern yourself with? Is it that Mussolini was not harsh enough on 300,000 Ethiopians and Lybians in the name of socialism? And, close to home, what about the 60,000 Hatians Papa Doc “lost” while wielding the “alturistic hand” of socialism until 1971? But, I would have to guess that the tens of thousands murdered in Cuba by Castro “had it coming”, huh? Should I continue?

          • DaveH

            As usual, a clueless Liberal attacks with name-calling and a substanceless comment.

    • JeffH

      American Liberal and Chaos Factor and several others here are cut from the same mold. Like denisso, they constantly cry about gun toters, violence, racism, hate, anger, Tea Baggers, right wingers, etc when in fact they’re attempting to incite these types of behavior.

      They have studied and mentored themselves with the classic teachings of Alinsky. Plant the seed and watch it sprout! What wasn’t taught is that the door swings both ways and don’t let it hit you in the arse on your way out. We’ll see how they all squeal like a pig and scurry for their place at the trough when the elections are over.

      This is just starting to get interesting.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Geez. I mean, I read your post earlier about calling people, basically hate filled, and things like that. But your posts are all full of hatred and name calling, and out and out lies saying this person and that person said this and that, and they just arent true. Its not hard for all of us that read this posts in this forum, to see just who is full of hatred. You can hate on me, but Ill say a prayer for you, whether you want it or not, your getting prayed for. I would invite all of you to pray for this guy also, as he appears to be in deep weeds right now.

      • DaveH

        You are too nice to those creeps, Beberoni.

  • s c

    As usual, some hardcore twits have to be tossed into reality. Obummerbamabubba is many things to many people. Basically, he is anything but a leader. He is using and abusing corporations in an attempt to use whatever political concept is ‘convenient’ (socialism, communism, fascism, etc.)
    Fortunately, he is also an opportunist, and that is a great weakness in someone in his position. He does not handle criticism, and that is another weakness. For a prez to act as though any dissent is not to be tolerated is proof that he is willing to create as much misery as possible in his short stint. Maybe he should stock up on catsup and various spices, as his menu will have a constant supply of inedible events and mounting dissent from now on, folks. Let him ENJOY every bit of it.
    Bush had his Katrina, and Obubbabummerbama has his off-shore oil rig. TOUGH #^&*!. ENJOY, prez.

  • Right Wing

    Good article Bob and it sums up much of the discussion and sentiment embodied on the site. There are of course the the fringe leftists that try to blur the focus but generally just make the reading format of the post threads mildly confusing (due to the humorous nonsense they espouse). Keep up the good work. Cheers to all you Tea partiers.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    If BHO, Pelosi, Reid and other liberal democraps loathe tea partiers so much, perhaps they should ask – what is the reason for having tea parties in the first place? Then they should just look in the mirror!! YES!! These leftwing socialist statist politicians should blame themselves!! If they weren’t thumbing their noses at our Constitution and governing so much against the will of the American people, there’d be no need for the Tea Party activities we’ve seen over the past 15 months. Most Americans should know by now that Tea Partiers are civil, peaceful and tidy. Of course, with the leftists in power now, staying peaceful may become more difficult as they may soon push the American people too far. LET’S HOPE IT DOESN’T GET TO THAT POINT!!

    • timr

      Earl….are you forming your own Militia???????

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        If he has to, there will be millions of others ready to jump in to save this country. One thing I have learned being born an American and having lived here all my live, is us Americans love our freedom, and were not going to let anyone take it away, let alone our own government. The government that tries it, will not be around long.

        • timr

          More paranoid, Anti-Government, Pro Timothy McVeigh Jargon…….
          Wake up people, we are NOT losing our country…………..you have the right to elect an old tired war-horse like John McCain, soon enough………….(by the way, I would have voted for McCain in 2000, but the Rove-crew helping Bush, de-railed his campaign)

          • angel-wanna-be

            TimR, AHH, Let’s see__ How’s ’bout Soros bought Obama’s ticket to the White House? What other lies can you dream up to explain the virtual rise of an unknown Senator, named Obama winning the Presidential seat?
            Talk about pulling a rabbit out of hat!!

          • DaveH

            Bush and McCain were both promoted by the Liberal MSM over much more viable Republican Candidates, as the MSM wants the most Liberal candidate whether they are Republicans or Democrats.

          • David Weber

            timr- sure you would have voted for McCain. He is a progressive after all. Guess what, so was Bush. And Clinton. And Bush 41. Reagan has been the only President since 1980 that hasn’t been a progressive. Both parties have been infected with progressives since Woodrow Wilson (a Republican) and FDR (a Democrat). We get it. You’ll get it come November too.

        • Sidewinder

          LOL!
          My sides ache! You posts are high comedy.

          • Sidewinder

            Blaberoni…

          • DaveH

            Only people with a dearth of information need to personally attack others.

  • James

    cemott3rd – Your turn now. Go ahead say something that means something. Bumper stickers are like opinions…. everyone has at least one…. some more.

  • Rob

    Hi Guys
    Goggle Nesara and restore America plan
    and look at what is in the works.

  • Laura Schlegel

    Obama gave the middle class fed tax cuts on income reproted for 2009. Obama wants to reign in the profiteering out sourced/off shored invested corporatists, big insurance/pharma, the Fed, banksters and Wall St that gambled away our economy with global ripple affects. He’s even said yes to letting people carry their guns into national parks.How did the last 30 yrs of erroding the regulations that protected workers, consumers, US economy, civil rights, and illegal war, and policies that kept US dependant on dirty fuels work for US? Talk about dehumanizing! There’s a BIG difference in stabilizing our infrastructure for upward mobility for all and a sustainable US economy (The American Dream) and a Socialist or Marxist Dictatorship.

    • timr

      Laura is absolutely correct…………..!!!

      • David Weber

        timr – no she is not. In Obama’s own words concerning cap-and-tax er trade : “electricity prices will necessarily skyrocket”. That doesn’t seem too upwardly mobile to me. I guess we can ‘redistribute’ some more wealth so the janitor, teacher, etc. can afford to heat their home. Maybe China can give Obama some more stash money? Or how about Andy Stern ‘workers of the world unite’ giving us taxpayers some of his union money? You know, spread the wealth around. Oh wait, that money is going to be needed for Obama’s re-election campaign.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      He also expanded food stamps, welfare, unemployment, government offices, and how do you think that gets paid for? By upping taxes. Ive been comparing my check stubs against last year, and Im seeing that for some reason more taxes are being taken out. Hmm. Ive received notices for my house that my property taxes are going up. Hmm. The excise tax on my automobile went up. Hmm. The taxes on the business I work at just jacked up, and will go up more when the Bush tax cuts are rescinded, which is coming real soon. We expect 20 guys or more to lose their jobs when this happens, to free the money up to pay the tax monsters. So Im glad this change worked for you, but pretty much all the people I talk to, all have jobs and work, and we all seem to be getting penalized, while those that dont work get rewarded, and we arent to happy about it for some reason. Hmm.

    • DaveH

      Laura,
      The poorest countries have the dirtiest environments. The surest way to ruin the environment is to weaken our economy with more Government growth.
      And there has been no deregulation, just different regulations. Big Government is alive and well and will continue to be as long as ignorant people buy into the propaganda. The leaders love people like you. Stay clueless and keep them rich and powerful.
      http://reason.org/news/printer/the-myth-of-financial-deregula

  • Chaos Factor

    The Government should keep an eye on this group… These are anti government domestic terrorist…. Ultra rightwing…and as close to Nazis as you can get…The History channel did a series on Hate groups on the Rise in America last week.. Like the Ayran brotherhood, American Nazi party, KKK and Skinheads … And the quotes from those Anti American, Anti government racist sound just like the rightwing quotes from this site …especially the phony claim of being ” Christians ” to condone your hate… Their is nothing at all patriotic or religious about the hate these rightwingers spew…good people?.. No.. These rightwingers are as hatefilled and vile as they come…

    • Sidewinder

      Hate?

      What hate?

      Show me the hate…..

      • Sidewinder

        Actually, I have not heard anyone supporting corportism here, that would make everyone here LESS Nazi like than even the government. Since corportism is not too far off from fascism.

        • DaveH

          Sidewinder, are there two of you? Sometimes you behave like a Liberal and other times you say some pretty good stuff. Are you trying to confuse me, lol?

          • denniso

            Does that happen often Dave???

          • DaveH

            You’re so clever, Dumniso. Even if you have to say so yourself.

      • http://yahoo peterb

        Sidewinder, chaos factor is besides himself trying to be heard and make an impact. He is the cover page of the liberal playbook.
        I doubt that he even understands the conversation.

        • Sidewinder

          Perhaps his name says it all?

      • JeffH

        Sidewinder, perhaps it is those that accuse others are subconsciously accusing themselves! Naw, they’re just spewing their vile dribble and are infact the real haters. Why is it then that the liberals are the only ones to use the “hate” word? They are what they accuse others of!

        • Sidewinder

          Yes, double standards. Look for the Silver Lining. They always give you one, you just have to be smarter.

        • DaveH

          It is common for people to project their faults onto other people.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Once again, your lying vitrial hatred filled posts show your true colors again. Full of hate.

  • Al Sieber

    Still the same old right -left paradigm.

  • Biff Jones

    Obama is a racist Ass%^$#. The more his socialist sycophants run their mouth, the more we prepare.

    • timr

      Prepare for WHAT, Biff……???………A racial revolution………???……..A white Anger revolution??????…….Go form a Militia, and I’ll laugh at you when your’e arrested………

      • JeffH

        …ahhh! the power of speech lead many down a crooked path.

      • del

        There you go trying to put words in some ones mouth again!

      • DaveH

        It is the Socialists who will start the violence. They usually do.

        • David Weber

          Mao Zedong said ‘political power comes from the barrel of a gun’ Anita Dunn said Mao was one of her favorite philosophers. Mao killed millions. So did Stalin and Pol Pot. I see a pattern here.

          • DaveH

            Yep. They want to help themselves to the money of others. They get on this board calling us foul names. They have no problem with forcing a product on those who don’t want it. They routinely spread misinformation. I wouldn’t put anything past a low-life Liberal.

    • Mick for thought

      Please try to use words and logic that qualifies your statement.

  • Chaos Factor

    Robin… Of course you’d like the liberals, democrats and anybody else that doesn’t buy your hatefilled rants banned from your rightwing sites… Then you claim you want to follow the constitution … You rightwings would love to have books and anything else that doesn’t fit your rightwing agenda of hate to be burned or banned… Just line the Nazis did….so put your white sheets and hoods on with your bible in hand abd burn away…..this countrys biggest threat is from the rightwing…. Al Qaeda hasn’t been able to inflict the damage that the rightwing has done to America

    • Sidewinder

      Chaos Factor is so confused….

      And he’s psycic too….he actually knows what we all secretly think…..

      And remember kids….nothing gets your sheets Whiter, than Clorox bleach. Praise Jehovah!!

      • David Weber

        Priceless! I’ll go buy some chlorox right now. LOL!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      You mean like the left wing liberals, who,through their affiliate the ACLU, have fixed it so you cant read the Bible in school or pray. So that college kids are forced to attend classes and read the Koran to learn tolerance, but you cant have a Bible study on campus. Do you mean forced things like that?

      • Sidewinder

        Yes double standards….Get over it, its a game. As long as you can go to church, who cares.

        Its just a game. They can’t change you, so stop reacting.

        • David Weber

          It is a deadly game. In the Koran, which I have read, muslims are to kill, convert or tax all who do not follow their faith. If any religion should be banned from schools it should be islam. Otherwise sharia here we come. Maybe if Christians killed non-believers then we would get the same rights as the muslims.

  • Mick for thought

    My best friend in the world has been to 5 TEA party events. He has passed along to me what a great time he had discussing important issues but is concerned how our government, whoever leads it, will pay for the bare essentials we would want the government to do.
    -protect our borders
    -build infrastructure
    -maintain our military
    -maintain our internal defenses
    He was angry that several loud mouth idiots chanting birther stuff drew the camaras towards their childish antics.
    If the TEA party is to become a true party and challenge the 2 parties they want to defeat they NEED to become more disciplined.

    • JeffH

      Mick for thought, I guess you are blind to the leftists that infiltrate the Tea Party protests with the full intent of dicrediting the movement by being stupid and drawing media attention to themselves. Ever seen the website “Crash the Tea Party”? If they’re still around, it explains their intend very clearly.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        And we all know that the liberal media knows exactly who they are and where they are, and are going to make sure they get them on camera for all to see.

      • Mick for thought

        I will follow that lead you presented but my conservative/libertarian friend tried having a conversation with 3 of these fellows and was accused of being a lefty and as he continued to try and reason with them one gentlemen pulled up his pant-leg to show the pistol he was carrying as he gesture my friend to leave. Sure there may be some infiltration to the TEA parties but denying that some of those attending are just crazy right wing radicals is just another form of blindness that can be cured by accepting the truth.

  • zephyr

    Lets face it, it’s 1984. BIG BROTHER is here and if we don’t vote out the Congress that is fostering OBAMANATION we have only ourselves to blame. Any one who did their homework before the 2008 election would have known that Obama was raised and mentored by Socialists and
    Communists. What would you expect from that background, a Capitalist? He lied every day during his campaign. And when he said he was going to fundamentally change the United States he wasn’t kidding. And he’s still lying. I guess everyone who voted for CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN is suffering buyers remorse. At least I hope so! And, even worse, he’s brought CHICAGO POLITICS to D.C. Worst president we’ve ever had. OBAMA has replaced CARTER (#39) as the most inept and corrupt of the 44.

  • http://gmail i41

    Chaos, did you notice on history channel, the new black panther organization and their history, the mexican gang groupos ,didn’t numnut Kenyan Holder go after the blacka who sttood in front of voting precents, no they got a free pass cause dey is black,or how the left spouting groups all have tie to the democrat party in a few short years, All the cities that have gun laws, that let Clypso Louie’s loony group carry guns and walk around with a stick up their rears, now there is a bunch for vine hanging nuts in clothes. Never hear a word from you liberal urine brain dead morons on gun rights. In our prisons why do you think the blacks all be come prayer rug muslims? Being a queer is supposed to be a death sentence for a muslim, so I guess a pedophile worshiping group isn’t static for the new black standads, Calypso Louie and Obamee were good buds.

  • zephyr

    @ CHAOS FACTOR
    We don’t want you banned from Conservatist blogs. We like to read your ideas and thoughts. You give us insight into your warped and twisted world. Keep up the good work! The only hate-filled rhetoric I read comes from you radicals who can’t see and won’t admit what is clearly verifiable if you research Obama. SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD NAME FOR A HAS BEEN! OBAMA that is. E Day is coming.

    • timr

      Don’t worry, Zeypher……..you’ll get another White Man in the White House……soon enough……….

      • JeffH

        …timr, if you couldn’t promote racism here would you promote it somewhere else?

      • del

        I wonder what ethnic group pays the highest percentage of your monthly check.

  • Sidewinder

    Yes….its a very old tactic of discrediting, called Guilt by Association.

    Get some left wing infiltrators into the Tea Party posing as Racists, then smear the whole group, as likeminded.

    But it should be obvious to all, that if the Tea Party was truely that racist, the Left wouldn’t feel that they needed any help in self destructing.
    The fact that the left, groups like Crash the Tea Party, even feel they need to infiltrate the Tea Party, tell me everything I really need to know.

    Read about CRASH THE TEA PARTY and you will understand the “Racism.”

  • mark

    “A recent poll by Gallup found that 28 percent of those surveyed identified with the Tea Party movement”
    Thank your Deity 72% “the majority” of other Americans don’t have these righteous, fire breathing, ultra conservative, religious Nutjob view. The Tea Partiers are what the far right have been wishing for- useful Idiots willing to spread their ills… for free.

    • JeffH

      mark, “Thank your Deity 72% “the majority” of other Americans don’t have these righteous, fire breathing, ultra conservative, religious Nutjob view.”

      72%, I’d bet you flunked math and general comprehension in grade school.

      Tea Partiers Are Fairly Mainstream in Their Demographics.
      28% support
      26% oppose
      38% neither oppose or support
      8% have no opinion.

      kinda blows your simple theory doesn’t it!

  • Last Generation Freedom Fighter

    Now I do not a don’t believe in him, but karl Marx said, “Democracy is one step from socialism” however Thomas Jefferson, one of the greatest patriots in History, said “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure” So if you put these quotes together they say that if Liberty and Democracy are not kept in check and rebalanced every now and then. All those freedoms from Democracy would be lost to a Socialism rule.

  • Dave

    The Tea Party called themselves Tea Baggers before they figured out what it meant. I have seen several videos of this on Jon Stewart. It doesn’t mean the Liberals need to keep calling them that but it hardly “Shows themselves as devoid of morals, ideas and class—without the ability to engage in rational discussion.” At least not the way the neo-cons keep using “eletists” which is intented to avoid rational discussion.

    • JeffH

      …and some people have the nerve to critisize those that listen or watch FOX news. Jon Stewart…yeah, a real source of the heartbeat of America.

      • Save America Susie

        I agree. Jon Stewart is mostly a comedian! What kind of real news can be gotten there?

        • Save America Susie

          I think the confusion about the “Tea-Baggers” term happened when there was an e-mail movement to send Tea Bags to Washington DC as a demonstration similar to the Boston Tea Party, when they threw tea in the harbor. But first people were sending actual tea bags to the White House as a PROTEST. Maybe that is where the term started? Then they told them the White House was banning the bag part, saying it was now being considered an “unknown substance” and would not accept them. So people sent JUST the TAGS instead, (which they could simply clip off their tea after they drank it.)That was not continued because then the Tea Parties took off across the Nation with great excitement about demonstrating for Freedom of Speech and against big government!

        • timr

          John Stewart is a Comedian……..so is Glenn Beck……..They are ALL entertainers, and none of them, should be taken seriously………….

  • Joe Kane

    I think the Tea Party should select a political slate and present it to the People who oppose politics as usual no matter who is in office. Dem. or Rep. We do need a clean government. One that doesn’t rely on the assets of big business for donations weather leagally or otherwise. And the Pork raids on SSI account has to be stopped. SSI would be solvent if it was left alone.
    I for one detest the present state of our leaders desire for their own gratification rather than that of the people they are suppose to represent.

  • Ron

    Tea Partiers are not right wing nut jobs. They are not a small group of malcontents. They are a large, loosely organized group of people who are fed up with the political trends in America. They realize at their core that the political class in America has come unhinged from its base—the American people. Tea Partiers want to call these people back to their constitutional responsibilities. They have been unable to do that on their individual initiative but they have found in the Tea Party a somewhat organized place to express their frustrations.

    Liberals and Progressives display their arrogance simply in their attacks against the Tea Partiers. Why would they call tham names, insult them and rail against them if they are not afraid of them. Does the political class have something to fear–you betcha. And it is not pitchforks and guns and violent rebellion. The political class understands in their gut that, at least in some corners of this country, the jig is up. The emperor is exposed as naked. We don’t like having legislation rammed down our throats. We don’t like legislators doing what they think is best for us even when we overwhelmingly tell them to stop. It’s time for the politicians to come home. It’s time for the American people to bring the government back down to the size and scope envisioned by the founding fathers. The Tea Partiers know that such is their vision even if they cannot articulate it to the satisfaction of their betters.

    Come November 2010, America will have a chance to begin to regain her roots. There are good people in government, and I hope that the good ones can retain their seats. My congressman from MN (John Kline)is one of them. But, if the only way to cleanse the system is to throw them all out, then, so be it.

    • jsin

      i think what people ar afraid of is how easily there fellow Americans can be mislead by republican sponsored news sources and off the wall conspiracies. We all want small efficient government and we want to get rid of the corruption but lets keep our feet on the ground and keep the conversation based on facts. It all comes down to reforming the campaign financing. The guy with the most dough wins. The guy with the most dough is owned by the corporations, the corporations need to fight wars, spill oil, contaminate food, it equals more money for them so they can elect their guy.

      • David Weber

        Soros, SEIU, AFL-CIO etc. won the last election for Obama. Nobody on the left or right wants to ban them from donating to political parties. However, the left wants to prevent corporations from donating. Why? Could it be, that it is a good way to silence the opposition. Of course if you’re into Socialist utopias, I suppose that would be a good thing right? Power and control people. Power and control.

  • steve kasarski

    I am convinced that this administration is fomenting the tea party people to do something violent so that obama will be justified in issuing a national emergency (martial Law) so that he will effectively receive more powers which could lead to cancelling elections and having his right hand man eric holder issue orders to all police agencies around the country to confiscate ALL guns to prevent even more violence!

    • jsin

      i dont see why the tea party would bring their guns unless they planned on using them. I am a gun owner and i believe it is just inappropriate. I understand tah it is legal,just not appropriate. Bad manners you mught say.

      • JeffH

        Gee whiz, I’ve never heard those “talking points” come out of a liberal’s mouth before. Almost sounds scripted.

        • jsin

          (words removed for offensive content)why dont you go tune you banjo (offensive word removed)-the complete lack of thinking amongst you right wing (offensive word removed) is completely alarming who would have thought people could be so (offensive word removed)

    • Ted Crawford

      Yes Steve! Isn’t it interesting that holder has done a complete 180 on Marinda!! Is that in preparation for the “uprising of the Tea Partiers” that he intends to create,probably with ahca,moveon,seiu thugs?
      Given this administrations blatent disregard for public oponion, they surely have something monumental up their sleves!! Given that the recent attempt to tweek the unemployment numbers failed, all the “new jobs created” and unemployment still rising,they must create something spectacular to regain the momentum!!

  • Harpo

    Why do some of you keep calling the current administration socialist when it is outright Fascist. They are using the some procedure as Hitler and Mussolini did when they took over Germany and Italy.

    • denniso

      Steve and Harpo…you guys are clearly off your freaking rockers. This is the kind of talk that can lead to violence and is nothing but idiotic as well. If you want to look at parallels between what Hitler did and current times, look back at the fearmongering that Cheny/Bush
      used to march us into an asinine and illegal and murderous and expensive invasion of Iraq…look at some of the comments on this site regarding the immigrant worker issue on the border, calling humans that dare to cross our border cochroaches, vermin, scum and more.

      How you can ignore what people on your side have done and said, while
      casting Obama as a Hitler-like leader is truly astounding…I can only
      imagine that you don’t have the intellect to know what you’re talking about or you’re just blindly partisan.

      • jsin

        bush-cheny were much more hitler-esque and the republicans via fox and the am talk drones pull more Orwellian misinformation everyday, example- obama sabotaged the oil well. Dont you find it strange how it is labeled “liberal media” but every corner,nook and cranny of the country you can dial in rush or hannity, but try and find progressive radio and it is very difficult. So dont call it liberal media when we know all to well that our media is predominantly right wing.

        • David Weber

          Nobody wants to listen to progressive talk radio. That is why Air America went bankrupt. They were able to recoup some of their lost investment by selling the ‘private’ information of their members list. I hope you weren’t on that list.

      • JeffH

        Another lovefest in the making.

        • angel-wanna-be

          JeffH, R2D2, makes more sense than some of these libs!

          • JeffH

            …certainly better programmed!

          • angel-wanna-be

            JeffH, BEEP BEEP! :)

    • timr

      Harpo, why don’t you follow Harpo Marx, and stay silent…..???
      It would serve us ALL very well………

      • JeffH

        timr, isn’t recess over…you’ll be late for class…

        • del

          LOL You know he doesn’t go to school!

      • Ted Crawford

        We have all just witnessed a MIRACLE!!! timr just posted a comment that failed to use the term “racist” His pay will surly be reduced for this breach!!

  • Tammy Ambos

    It’s funny that you mention how terrible “they” are to call their fellow Americans “Nazi’s, un-american, dangerous,” etc. when these are the names that Tea partiers have been calling our president and our government, all Americans. We do not fear the Tea partiers, only that they seem so very, very wrong, and they are the ones calling Americans names. Our great president Obama has never stooped to their level. He is so above that.

    • jsin

      well he isnt so great, health care was a sellout, he caved on the drilling we see how thats going, drone attacks in pakistan are up”meet the new boss, same as the old boss”

    • Sidewinder

      Tammy I think it less important get to caught up in what individual voices from within the Tea Party are saying, and better to focus on the stated purpose of what the Tea Party is. To counter a 2 party system that does not represent you or me. Ignore any racists or infiltritators.

      No Taxation without Representation.

      Corporatism is a system where businesses are nominally in private hands, but are in fact controlled by the government. In a corporatist state, government officials often act in collusion with their favored business interests to design polices that give those interests a monopoly position, to the detriment of both competitors and consumers.

      Do you see that? They often act to the detriment of both competitors and consumers. Consumers ARE voters. Its Special Interest that gets representation. I said the other day to American Liberal, our form of capitalism resembles Mafia style racketeering.

      No taxation without representation.

      Support the Tea Party. Ignore the fools.

      • denniso

        You’ve got it precisely backwards…it’s corporations controlling gov’t, not the other way around. It’s obvious if you look at where the money comes from. Corporations buying gov’t officials to enhance their ability to make more money. Gov’t becomes the tool of big biz, that’s the long history of our country and all capitalist societies that dont force controls on big biz.

        • Sidewinder

          You make a sharp point.
          But I think those bribes are bribes to a more powerful authority, in order to allow the corporation in question to benefit.
          Without the bribe, they don’t benefit.

          Good point though. I’ll look a little closer.

          • Sidewinder

            Corportism is extremely close to facism. I think the difference lies in who is really in control. Sometimes it is hard to tell.
            Judging from the bailouts, and Obama’s control of GM, I would say its the government who is in control.

            This is a good one though. I can’t say for sure if you are right or I am. I think we are very close….

          • denniso

            I don’t think it’s a black or white question…there is always a combination of power and who controls it, between the gov’t and big biz…certainly many people in gov’t enjoy some of the power and make big money on their connection to big biz. And corporations are always trying to get ahold of as much power as they can to further their biz interests. It’s a bit like a dance between the 2 w/ money and power shifting back and forth.

            But I also think that w/o the best of gov’t fighting against monopoly and abuse by big biz, we would be in even more trouble than we are now.

    • skipfoss

      He has never listened to their ideas ,he has done just the oppisite of what the majority of the people want,they have only called him what he and his comrades are he does not represent the people he ignores them the half breed eletist bastard needs to be put out of office by what ever means possiblebefore he has the time to complete his Fascist agend. He is a treasonist half breed son of a whie trash whore that has been raised as a Muslim Communist and now that he has the power he is trying to take over every function of our people’s lives he controls banking ,manufacturing Housing and now education. He can decide what education a person can hsve or if they can have it he and his czars have major control of the media and if they can’t control one of them then they turn the others loose to demean and out right lie about them just as they do those that stand up against their take over and like I said he needs to be taken out by what ever means neccessary.

    • David Weber

      Our great prez said “if they bring a knife to a fight we’ll bring a gun”. Which is ironic considering he said ‘if we’re attacked by a non-nuclear state using biological or chemical weapons we will not use nuclear weapons in response’. I guess if, say the Afghan Taliban, were to wipe out, say San Francisco, using nerve gas, we would just loudly scold them at the U.N. And if we caught one of their operatives before the attack, we could just get them a lawyer so that their co-conspirators would have enough time to finish the attack. I feel safer already.

  • Matthew Duncan

    American was founded as a Christian nation.

    Then American’s started to elected non-Christians to political offices.

    And now American’s wonder why we are a Christian nation in name only.

    Any ideas why that is?

    • jsin

      seperation of church and state “under God” was added to the pledge in the 50s

      • Save America Susie

        Sorry, but you will NEVER find the words “Separation of church and state” in the U. S. Constitution. The only thing Amendment #1 says is that we should not establish an official religion. It never says God should not be honored here. What it really says is:

        “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or PROHIBITING the FREE exercise thereof…”!

        In other words, you cannot PROHIBIT anyone from exercising their religious faith, (as long as what they believe is not a crime, as may be the case in some extremist cults or terrorist groups.)

        The term “separation of church and state” came from one of the founder’s opinions. But that wording is not in the actual Constitution. Yet we have Bible verses all over the government monuments and buildings, and most of the Presidents have prayed at government functions over the many years of America. Including George Washington! It’s clear the government people were not against prayer in the gov. meetings in the founding days. People are just panicing in these modern times, when the founders weren’t so paranoid. I believe there is still a paid minister who opens the congressional meetings today, unless he was recently removed from doing so. Anyone know?

    • Mick for thought

      In the Bill of rights the term is Freedom of religion, no freedom of only Christian based religions. Are you for the Constitution or against it?
      First Amendment:
      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

      • Save America Susie

        Yes, We should all the right to believe our own faith and express it,whatever it is (as long as what we are expressing is not a crime).

        • Mick for thought

          Correct.

    • Sidewinder

      We were founded in part on religious FREEDOM. Even freedom not to believe in God if one so chooses.

      Religion is a person thing. It can be our moral compass, and it can guide elected officials in the capacity of their jobs. I agree.
      I think you are getting way too wrapped up in religion and politics. You cannot save a nation without saving the individuals first.
      So its a personal thing. Simply electing a so called Christian to office is not enough. Richard Nixon was a christian. George Bush claimed to be one. B.J.Clinton was often seen clutching a Bible.
      Better to judge a man by his actions instead of his words, religion or appearances.

      Even those pedophile preists claimed to be Christians.

      • Sidewinder

        My above post was for Matthew Duncan

      • Save America Susie

        That is so true! A person is not a Christian, just because he goes to a Christian Church, any more than a person can call himself a “car” just because he sits in a garage.

        Jesus himself said there would be fakers in the church. Check out His “Parable of the Wheat and the Tares” (weeds).

        Some people are not there for spiritual reasons, some for power (Rev. Wright), and some for business contacts, and some for POLITICS!

  • http://ken.robbie@yahoo.com Kenneth Murray

    Chaos Factor is living proof that idiotism still exists in this country, It’s people like this that has allowed this country to detiorate down to it’s present condition, with the sludge of the present administration in control of the throttle.

  • wake up

    People defending Obama for the sake of his skin colour. Divide and rule at it´s very best. The (white) “elite” just love it.

  • Frank the Libertarian

    The sad thing is that allowing yourself to hate anyone for their religion is against Christian Principals.
    The sad thing is that Obama is not a socialist, Bush started it and Obama continued it.its called FACISM. Why? Because FORCE is involved.

    Both sides need to understand that they the elitest are using you and your fear of Muslims or your fear of Christians. I would suggest both sides need to look through History…For the Right Find me an instance before 1945 where Muslims were a problem to the US, and for the left, you need to understand that the “thing” that specifically allows you to seek change is the same thing you wish to eliminate..its very ironic that you will destroy Freedom in your quest for what you believe you are entitled to. Kittle do you realize that OBAMA offers you nothing that you dont already have. You just need to exercise your rights as an American.

    It does no good to think that any nation on Earth will survive a sickness like Racism if its in the form of skin color, lifestyle or religion. Hitler used Fear to turn Germans against German and so many Americans are so damn blind they cant even see they are being sold the same plate of garbage. The others are being told they donmt have reights & freedoms, but they already do and are sold on the idead that they dont.

    All I can say is it worked FOOLS They got you all fighting.

    • Time

      Frank, Good post dude!

    • Keith

      Hey, sounds like a lot of what I have been saying. I love the healthcare right. People, no one in this country has eveer been denied healthcare. Yet, they made you believe people had been denied life-saving care. I have talked to several people who claimed they were ddenied care. When you get down to the brass tacks, their insurance would not cover something they wanted or needed. That is a denial of coverage, not a denial of care. SOLUTION: Get a plan that covers the things you want/need or pay for it out of your pocket. Well, that was until the healthcare fiasco passed. Now employers will drop coverage all together beccause it is cheaper to pay the fine than to cover the employees. This is working exactly as Democrats designed it because they ultimately want single payer. They will stand up and announce the bill failed so the only other option is single payer. Then the real rationing of care will begin.

      • timr

        Keith….why don’t you spend some time in other’s shoes??……..Until YOU are denied coverage, or until YOU are hit with a disease, and are not covered, even though you have Insurance with your Epmployer……….Then you will know what this Healthcare system is ALL about………..Too many people are getting rich at the expense of people’s lives……….THAT is not what this country is all about……….

        • JeffH

          …timr, don’t get your crying towell out just yet, nobody is sobbing…heard those words of yours from a few “bleeding hearts” around here before.

          • libertytrain

            New batch of paid leftists this week. What losers.

        • Joe Kane

          Hmm! Obamacare and Medicaid. Isn’t that the same thing except with Obamacare you have to pay or be fined?

          • JeffH

            Joe Kane. simplistic and spot on…

        • angel-wanna-be

          TIMR, I walked in those shoes!!!___still living to tell about it__ without Government entitlements. Who’s getting rich at the expense of others???___You don’t deserve anything in life friend, ya work for it!__God say’s “there will always be the poor among us”__We give when we can, and so do alot of other folks. What right does the Government have to TELL US WE HAVE TO BE CHARIABLE, to spread the wealth around?__ AND then TAKE OUR MONEY OUT IN TAXES??__SAVE YOUR CRAP, entitlement junkie!!!

    • Save America Susie

      I agree basically with your statement about not hating people just because they opposed you. However, Just because a person expresses an opposite opinion does not mean they are expressing hate. They are merely expressing “Freedom of Speech”. The other person then may interpret that as hate, when it really isn’t. They are just reading into it something that is not there. Unless of course their foul language betrays them. If a person is really trying to persuade someone, they would not use name calling or imply the other was stupid. That just shows anger. They would use reason & temperance instead.

    • Jeep

      Okay, I guess I will answer for the “right”. You asked, “For the Right Find me an instance before 1945 where Muslims were a problem to the US”. Well, I suppose that you have never heard of the Spanish-American War? We got tangled up with these guys called Moros. Ever heard of them? It was their habit of tying up their extremities and taking drugs before battle that caused us to develop and adopt the .45 cal pistol. Anyway, they were first converted around 1380 by a wandering Mohammedan missionary. Without getting into the long history, America became involved in a protracted war with these guys in 1903. Known by many incarnations since, the latest MILF warriors are just as fanatic about about jihad as ever. In fact, we just lost 4 American soldiers recently in a continuation of this war which is now considered part of the global war on terror. Just a little history lesson for you.

  • Arcadia CA

    I don’t think the terms Nazi or Hitler are ever appropriate to use from either side. Don’t let their use and meaning degenerate to the point where all they mean is that you disagree with someone.

    • Tom

      The term Nazi means National Socialist, and they had programs much like those Obama is instigating, such as Health Care. National Socialism and Fascism are very similar to Communism. One needs to consider Hitler and Stalin rival totalitarians fighting for the same territory.

  • Granny

    I am an elderly grandmother, Tea Party Rally attendee, Believer in God and his son, Jesus Christ. I respect the tenets of Ghandi and Martin Luther King, jr. re: non-violence. I also believe in the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights in total. In her book, “Atlas Shrugged”, Ayn Rand stated (paraphraase) if the Government wished to control its people, all that was necessary was for the Congress to pass laws which thinking people could not abide by in good conscience, and then they could be prosecuted and incarcerated when they violated those laws. She was way before her time. Take a look around you.

    • JeffH

      Granny, good words of wisdom. Thanks

      I’ll mention that the libs will ridicule your Ayn Rand comment, she drives them batty!
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      Do not ever say that the desire to “do good” by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives.
      Ayn Rand
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  • Another Voice

    LMAO! If the current administration were even half the ‘fascist regime’ you guys claim it is, then the Tea Party people would have been arrested and thrown into prison ages ago. If our government was really trying to ‘takeover our lives’, then there would have been no coverage of the rallies on TV.

    Security forces are now standing by at the protests just in case somebody decides to take the advice of Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Michelle Bachman, etc., and actually tries to commit an act of violence.

    ‘Liberals’ aren’t afraid of the Tea Party, but the establishment GOP certainly is! When Tea Party candidates run for office, they are going to split the conservative vote. A senator from Utah has already been ousted, and there will be more to come. The GOP is doing its best to woo the Tea Party people, but so far it hasn’t been working all that well.

    And as for the liberals trying to ‘quash dissent’, I believe it’s the Tea Party that is the most repressive. Just check out the forums on the Tea Party sights: most of them state that ‘liberal trolls will be banned.’ But anyone can say anything in a liberal forum.

    Who are the real fascists here?

    • Keith

      Um, evidently you don’t listen to Beck, Limbaugh, et al. If you did, you would know they consistently tell people they DO NOT SUPPORT, ENDORSE OR CONDONE VIOLENCE OF ANY KIND. If you quit milking you slop from HuffPo and the like, you would know these things.

      • Save America Susie

        I agree. People who fear the talk radio and think they are advocating violence have not been listening at all, & are just going on rumor. The talk radio, over and over, stresses PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATION & the VOTE.

    • timr

      To: Another Voice………I was on a Tea Party Blog for awhile, and I disagreed with many of their Posts, and I was BANNED from that site…………These Tea Baggers don’t want Free Speech or the Free expression of Ideas……Most them have NO idea what the U.S. Consitution is all about…..they think that a Balck man being President is unconstitutional…………

      • JeffH

        timr, maybe you could provide a link or the name of the “Tea Party blog” so I can see just how racist you want them to be. I doubt that you’ll do that for me though, you being the racist and all!

      • del

        Lol

      • Airangel

        OB is half white making him Mulatto, not black (America is a diverse, multi-race culture from many generation so your RACE CARD doesn’t work in this era – we’ve come a long way baby)

        Mulatto denotes a person with one white parent and one black parent, or more broadly, a person of mixed black and white ancestry.[1] Contemporary usage of the term varies greatly, and the broader sense of the term makes its application rather subjective, as not all people of mixed white and black ancestry choose to self-identify as mulatto.[2] Some reject the term because of its association with slavery and colonial and racial oppression, preferring terms such as “mixed”, “biracial”, “mixed-race”, and “multiracial”.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulatto

      • Jeep

        Just call this for what it is from timr, a lie…

    • Kim McGough

      What people will come up with to make something look so bad, if it is against thier beliefs, then it is bad, wrong, hateful, and so on. What is going on in this country is not good. It would be nice if everyone would dicuss all these issues in a controlled manner. All this name calling, race card bull…ect needs to stop. This is what divides a nation, or family, church, or community. Sure we all have are opinions and are entitled to them., This kind of hate between you all is very dangerous, and it is on both sides. Yes there is a problem in DC, but all this junk will not solve it. Yes the police will have to be present at any kind of rally just because of idiots on both sides love to cause problems. No private citizen should carry a gun to any of these functions, just because of this. It is beginning to look like civil unrest because of hate. I don’t care for Obama, but then I did not care about alot of the former presidents, or congressess either, to much on pet projects, and not enough for the good of all people, including all races, walks of life, and trying to push out God and the Christian. All other religions all alright as far as out government and judicial branch is concerned. Well folks if you don’t like what I said I really don’t care. But to all of you who belittle the christian way, I will say that if you ever tried it, you would like it, because you can actually feel God in your life, and that would bring a big change in your thinking. So don’t put down some thing that you know nothing about. If this country servives this division it will be a mirical

  • Sherron

    I am relatively new to this site (a friend suggested it to me) and I have read some very enlightening information here, I have also read many of the comments. Currently I dont label myself as conservative or liberal (even though I was raised by liberal parents) I am dismayed with a lot of the anger that leads people to say some of the most hateful things I have heard and read….and it has been on the left and the right. I am trying to educate myself on the issues and seperate truth from lies. Thanks to all of you that have posted what seems to me to be well thought and worded information. I will keep reading and learning…
    Peace

  • coachT

    I have just one questions to ask,, WHAT has Obama really done for the GOOD of the country,, NOTHING,, I am sick and tired of hearing about, the race card , He is destroying our country, If you don’t think so, I just wish there were a place on earth that he and you could all go,, let him be your President, and lets see how things go,, WAKE UP people YOU can’t be that stupid, really, just look at what he has done to hurt this country and the LIES he has told, HEY go read , learn ,, find out for yourself. Then come back and talk about it, but STOP using this race card,,

    • timr

      Caoch T..I have ONE question for you………What did Bush do in 8 years………???

      Your’e an uninformed idiot, that’s all you are………but don’t worry…….you can vote in a White President next time……….

      • JeffH

        timr, didn’t you know you shouldn’t answer a question with a question!

        The rest of your comment falls pretty much in line with your other posts. Glad you are enlightening us about youself.

  • Frank the Libertarian

    Granny is spot on.

    @ Arcadia CA..I am referring to a Political Leader who used manipulative emotional ways to instill Fear and hate, ultimately destroying the people from within & without.

    Theres a fine Line between Patriotism & Nationalism and their Opposites. Problem is that Line is played heavily and used by the Controlling Elites to further their adjenda. I reference the Elites only as a name, in reality We are to blame for sleeping & Trusting.

  • John

    Since when do lesbian jewish midgets represent the majority of the United States population? This is typical of a communist, promote the candidate least likely to represent the values of the majority of the American people. From our deeds we build our character. Obama is showing what he is made of.

  • http://Yahoo Jerry D.

    News Flash!! Dateline November 9, 2010….The Associated Press has just reported that huge numbers of TEA Party activists are responsible for the “pounding’ that Liberals and other Progressive took in yesterday’s election. The former majority party lost 60 seats in the House and 12 seats in the Senate. President Obama has demanded recounts and declared Marshall Law, to quell the obvious upriising taking place around the nation. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are in shock. They had little to say about the occurances. Peacful crowds, flocked to polling places. SWAT teams were dispatched to control the larger than usual crowds. Sources have suggested major voter fraud, as Conservative candidates overwhelmingly won control of Congress. Obama is said to be livid………News at Eleven……

    • USN-Pops

      Let Us Pray.

    • Save America Susie

      Perhaps we should all vote by ABSENTEE BALLOT and then we would avoid the “swat team” problem, “IF” there actually was one.Then they could not claim there were any riots when there were not.

    • JeffH

      Jerry D., you’ve just announced the liberal’s worst nightmare. I like it though…

    • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

      Snap! Jerry D, that paragraph deserves to go viral. You should post it on every blogsite that you can think of. The most exquisite humor must always have a sharp grain of truth.

  • Keith

    See lots of good comments on here. Too easily people still try to pin everything on Bush for some reason. So, I suppose the best thing we could have done was turn a blind eye and pretend 9/11 never happened? The invasion of Afghanistan was the first step into deficit spending under the Bush admin. Or are people referring to Bush’s links to big business and big oil? Since business creates jobs in this country, what do we do as a nation, create laws that are hostile to business and depress jobs? Or do we create laws that are business friendly and spur job creation? How is the best way to get out of a budget shortfall? Do we cut spending everywhere we can and balance the budget out or do we jack taxes sky high on everyone to make up the difference? HHHHMMMMM, New York and California are models of success (sic) in jacking taxes sky high to make up the difference. Raising taxes invariably produces the same result, lackluster investment. Lackluster investment invariably produces the same result, high unemployment. We can go way back to the beginning of last century and look at the Forgotten Depression. The Forgotten Depression was a result of Woodrow Wilson’s first great experiment in leftist statism. For those who don’t know, statism refers to the idea that the state knows better than the individual what is best for the individual. In 1919, the stock market crashed. At the same time, Warren Harding was elected President and began changing course with the country. He slashed taxes and cut government spending. Harding died in office but Calvin Coolidge took over where he left off. The result is know as the Roaring Twenties. After Coolidge, Herbert Hoover was elected and he laid the framework for the Great Depression. After careful analysis of the Great Depression, the consensus among most economists is the Great Depression lasted six years longer than it needed to under Roosevelt’s New Deal. Fast forward a few years and we have the Vietnam War and the Arab Oil Embargo that killed our economy. Jimmy Carter and Congress had no ideas on how to get us out of the demise. Luckily, Ronald Reagan came in and did just what Harding had done. The result was an explosion in economic growth that is unrivaled. 25 years of virtually uninterrupted growth and over 40 million jobs created. People try to point to Bill Clinton as the catalyst for job creation in the 1990′s. Unfortunately, that is not accurate either. The job creation was a result of a pay-go policy established by a Repiublican congress. Clinton was hog tied and could do nothing but support the spending cuts and declare “The era of big government is over”. Bush took over just as we were coming off the dot com bubble collapse. He put the surpluses in the hands of the American people to help jump start the economy. And, it was working until 9/11 hit. Even after 9/11, the economy rebounded in fairly short order and the tax cuts enacted helped spur business growth. That led to the DOW hitting its all time high in October 2007. Even after 9/11, Republicans were busy slashing spending and working to balance the budget. From 9/11 until the FY 2007 budget, Republicans slashed deficit spending every single year. The FY2007 budget was the lowest in 5 years and the fourth straight year for deficit reductions. It is amazing how the economy expands when the government gets out of the way and lets it work. In FY2007, the unemployment rate was somewhere around 4.5%. So today, we have at least twice as many people out of work. We have to ask what happened to turn a booming economy into a bust economy? Well, the first thing that happened was Democrats taking control of Congress in 2006. By the time they were sworn in, in January 2007, the FY 2007 budget was already complete and signed. The FY 2008 budget brought out GWB’s veto pen. As a result, Democrats were forced to trim their budget down but it was still larger than the previous fiscal year and that was just the harbinger of things to come. In FY2009, Democrats in congress sidestepped GWB all together by passing pork filled continuing resolutions until Barack Obama took office. Mr Obama both voted for and signed the FY2009 budget, the largest in history. Then they pass pay-go and announce a spending freeze. That’s nice, let’s freeze the budget at (then) 3.4 trillion dollars then raise taxes to pay for it under pay-go. Since then, it has gone up to at least 4.4 trillion and will likely rise higher than that. Okay, so now we are officially obligated to spending two to three times more money per year than we can collect in tax revenues. That is why they are now talking about the VAT and taxing checking accounts. They are going to tax everyone one way or another before it is over. But, the free spending democrats brought on the latest economic collapse. The statist policies of the left wing always lead to economic collapse. What I find extremely ironic is many states of the former soviet union are beating us at our own game, capitalism. What our government wants to do is Europeanise our entire governmental and economic systems. These former soviet states have opened up their economies and now utilize the Fair Tax, with no other form of taxation. Their economies are doing extraordinarily well. I have yet to see any of those states go broke or ask for loans or bailouts. Yet, before this is over, we will be forced to pay into a system for bailing out failures. At the state level, those states that aren’t big welfare states and begin improving their economies and bedgets ahead of states like California and New York will be forced to subsidize those failures. Why should I be forced to prop up anything that is proven to fail? I shouldn’t. I say if it fails, get rid of it and put something in there that works. It is quite certain the system we are pursuing at the federal level right now always fails but we keep trying to reinvent that same broke wheel. Why? Because of the greed and thirst for power at those levels of government.

  • Frank the Libertarian

    If the current administration were even half the ‘fascist regime’ you guys claim it is, then the Tea Party people would have been arrested and thrown into prison ages ago. If our government was really trying to ‘takeover our lives’, then there would have been no coverage of the rallies on TV.

    For the Record, the “ages ” you speak of could only have been in the past 18 months…
    The patriot act is a Farce and facist, started by Bush Continued by Obama..it keeps no one safe.

    This administration has the power to reverse many of the Unconstitutional laws, codes & rules yet it has reversed nothing! It has Stolen (Legalized Plunder)from the American People. It has sat back and allowed Private institutions to run the American economy into the dirt. It has Crossed the line of its authority (as many DEM & REP admins have in the past)and VIOLATED the Constition, the very same Constitution that empowers both the right voice & the left voice.

  • Frank the Libertarian

    @ Keith, Start with an Honest monetary system, abolish the FED. A limit on how much money exists limits Corporate power, not their value to society. :)

    • Keith

      True, but even though wwe might control how much money WE (as a ntaion) have, we cannot control that of other nations. Even if they don’t control a lot of dollars they could control lots of different currencies, creating the same problem. So I suppose now you will be looking for a single worlddwide currency controlled by a single worldwide government?

  • no1rightway

    Tea parties are an embarrassment to the Republican Party and and people who love this coutry. They succeed only in spreading half-truths and lies and obscure the reaal issues in favor of reactionary nonsense.

    Livingston bemaoans the use of’typical tactics of linking Tea partiers with Skinheads, the Ku Klux Klan and the militia movement.” While referring to the police presence in Quincy as “marching in lockstep in the street in front of” ” The gray haired grannies and grandpas ” err… Pot meet kettle.

    • Keith

      Long ways from it since he told exactly what transpired versus all these complete fabrications the left throws out there about Tea Party people.

      • no1rightway

        Have it your way.

        • JeffH

          …which IS the “right way”…

          • no1rightway

            >>…which IS the “right way”…<<
            Right way to what?

  • http://www.yahoo.com jiz

    fist of all, this is the most moronic diatribe i have ever read on the net, except maybe from Sean Hannity.

    look you should just separate. let all the progressives have their own country and you backwards folks can have yours.

    hopefully morons like you won’t have access to nukes!!! yikes!

    later corporatist scum!

    • Keith

      HHHHMMMMM, I would be all for two different countries. I assume you were referring to my initial post. Please, by all means point out what is wrong so I can give you the official links to show you what is actually true. If you took time to research on your own to find the information it is there. All you need do is research and see for yourself rather than trusting anything that comes across the airwaves from whomever it may be.

    • Dan

      jiz,

      Love the idea! We split into two countries. The Progressive country will be populated by college professors, trial lawyers, tax accountants, and the like. The other country, (you might call it the bumpkin country or the dummy country if you like) will be populated by entrepreneurs, tradesmen, engineers, and the like. The smart money is on us bumpkins and dummies.

      • timr

        Dan, there are NO Tradesmen left………we have sold out our Manufacturing Base……….and NO I won’t trust the Palin-loving bumpkins with this country………Why are they from Small Towns??…………because no one wants to live there………….

        • del

          I wonder what the crime rate is in your neighborHOOD? I bet everyone wants to live there!

      • angel-wanna-be

        Dan, Amen, buddy!!

    • Save America Susie

      The problem with that is that families and friends would be torn apart into two different countries. You now, two best friends that were loyal to the end were famous classic actors Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda. Jimmy was a Conservative and Henry, a Liberal. If they can do it, so can we. But some of you would rather die than do so.

      My sister voted for BO, and I shuddered at the thought. But I still love my sister, and would defend her right to her opinion. Sadly, she won’t talk about issues at all. And only listens to CNN. She has rose colored glasses. She really believes BO has altruistic intentions. It is certainly her RIGHT to believe that. Just as it is my RIGHT to disbelieve BO. But we don’t hate each other. It not a matter of hate but of difference of opinion.

  • Gatormaid

    When we grew up if it was bad, now it’s good . And if it’s good now it’s bad. Things have been turned upside down. It’s bad to pray. Don’t listen to your parents. They don’t know what they are talking about.If you break into our country(illegal alien) let’s reward you w/ free money , house and a job.We don’t have jobs for legal people in this country,but we’ll give a job to an illegal alien.Let’s make drugs legal and tax them. What genius came up w/ this hair brain idea? We’ll just drug them into compliance. Then they will be zoned out and not care what (WE) do. I never thought I’d live to see my country go down the toilet, but that is what is happening. The Gov. thinks we are to stupid to understand what is good for us. So they don’t listen when we say”We don’t want this!!!” , and do what (THEY) want. When we do speak up, They pull out the race card and say we are starting trouble.Well if you know your Bible you know where this is all headed. It’s all there…last chapter.

    • Frank the Libertarian

      One drug that has been very distructive if abused, and legal already exists as proof that our “war on drugs” is pointless…its Alcohol. The 18th amendment was the war on Alcohol and it stands as a testimony that any time you make something illegal…you empower it to be run by criminals & make criminals millionairs. People had the sence to abolish the law that made Alcohol illegal. Let people decide what they put in their bodies as THEY ALREADY ARE DECIDING THIS!!! I wont used drugs and 99% of the people I know will be unaffected.

  • eddie47d

    Don,9:08am,You assume too much with your Nazi talk.I served my country and despise the Dick Cheney’s and Rush Limbaugh’s who didn’t serve. That’s because they have abused their status of privilege time and time again. Their comments are extremism (un-civility) run amuck. Rush get’s paid way too much for lying. I would have brought Bill Clinton into the mix because he abused his privilege with Monica,but that was his personal lack of discretion. Rush and Dick abuse their power when ever they speak out.

    • JeffH

      eddie47d, gee, you’ve never said anything extreme before. Come to think of it you’ve never said much of anything before that had any meat in it.

    • Save America Susie

      I am wondering why Edwards has been declared a hopelessly unforgivable due to his affair, but Bill Clinton has now been promoted to Sainthood. Can anyone tell me why?

      • JeffH

        Clinton “did not have sex with that woman”! Right!
        And Obama’s a moderate! Right!

        • angel-wanna-be

          JeffH, and the moon’s made of green cheese!!:)

          • JeffH

            lol!

  • ceberw

    Gee, the article starts out calling those the author disagrees with ‘Facists’, then goes on to complain about others using names like ‘Nazi’ for others. If you really want civil discourse on politics, you need to start with yourself.

  • Marilyn

    If you give all the rich, working man’s money to the non-working poor, that is the end of a Nation. Are we nearing the “last chapter?”

  • Skychief

    I’m an Optimist, Pessimist, Realist, Idealist
    I’ve loved hate and hated love
    I’ve stepped into the Styngian blackness to see the light
    I’ve chastised hope and embraced despair
    I’ve laughed at the indigent and praised the tyrants
    I’ve mocked the truth and perpetuated lies
    I’ve enabled villains and discredited heroes
    But, so have you

    • Gymbo

      OPTIMIST
      IDEALISTIC + REALISTIC
      COMMUNIST + CAPITALIST
      SEXIST
      OPPORTUNIST

  • Airangel

    A different approach with all the nastiness running amuck…I read this passage in an article and thought it very appropriate to touch on.

    “No one would allow garbage at his table, but many allow it served into their minds” Fulton John Sheen (1895-1979)

    What would we expect of someone who feeds only on fast food and unhealthy snacks filled with sugar and fats? A healthy body? Long life? No, we would expect physical health to be largely the product of physical intake. Is it any different in the spirit?

    Modern culture is saturated with unhealthy spiritual food—from the lusts of the flesh and the eyes, to the human pride of the self-life, to elaborate and deceptive worldviews and philosophies. Hundreds of television channels, dozens of newspapers and magazines, unlimited cyberspace images, and a number of other media compete for our attention. We let many of them actually win our attention. And much of what we feed on is unhealthy. In our pursuit of wisdom, our minds often hunger for genuine nutrition.

    “You are what you eat” applies not only in the physical world, but also in the spiritual. There’s no way to take in junk without becoming sickly.

    God calls us to watch our diets. It pleases Him when we care for His temple, our bodies. But it pleases Him much more when we care for our minds. Our thought life is where His Spirit most prefers to work, shaping uncluttered hearts and imparting wisdom to uncluttered minds.

    Even so, we do not make a smooth highway for Him into our souls. Through our entertainment, we let ourselves be bombarded by an incessant PR campaign for the ways of the world. Find a balance. Watch what goes into your mind. Without hindrance, let His thoughts nourish you…don’t believe everything you read or hear, always seek truth and not propaganda.

  • skipfoss

    Timr; Hussien has never proven his education just as he has never proven his legal citizenship,he has sealed all of his records and has paid aprox 1.5 mil to keep them hidden so as far as I am conserned his education is as fake as he is. If you can not speak a complete sentence with out a teleprompter I am not impressed with his proclimation of his education, NO PROOF=NO EDUCATION

    • jsin

      Reagan used a teleprompter

    • timr

      SkipFoss……….your’e a fricken red-neck…………
      By the way, did YOU finish the 8th Grade????

      • JeffH

        timr, if it eren’t for name calling and insults, you’d be speechless.

    • JBR

      Ignore TIMR, he’s just ranting and isn’t even lucid. He’s simply spewing, regurgitating the far left talking points. There’s no reasoning with someone so close minded. Typical tactic of using ad hominum attacks, making false accusations and vile name calling. Nothing original there.

      • JeffH

        He’s another lackey schill for the left…he’ll be gone at the end of his shift.

    • Save America Susie

      I agree…Every person running for president should have to post their credentials in every town hall for all to see. That would be true transparency! Otherwise, someone not valid could slip through the cracks. And possibly has. A person has to show more proof for being the CEO of any large company than BO has presented. Its a valid statement. American just wants proof that’s all. Not that is isn’t there.

  • Frank the Libertarian

    Bush, Clinton, Regan, Bush Sr, Obama, Johnson, Carter, Ford, Nixon, all eight are guilty and as Guilty for allowing the road to destruction to have been paved on their watch. I know some will tout Regan as the exception, and perhaps he did as much good as bad, but they all are Guilty of allowing a private Bank destroy America, AND Guilty for Violating the Constitution with our wars in Vietnam, and the Middle East.

    • Airangel

      and guilty of granting Amnesty..started on Reagan’s watch…now we have an oozing leak and aftermath that needs immediate attention

  • eddie47d

    i41;Liberal equals corportists,how quaint. I’m sure there is a grain of truth to that but don’t pat youself on the back too hard. The CEO of Yahoo just received $42 million and only “worked” 7 months. She was one of many who received that much money in recent months. Ceo’s seldom earn their salaries for it has become a given. These corporate kings are ruling America and only contribute to their own egos,not the welfare of the Nation.

    • JeffH

      …sounds like an “International Corporate Socialist” to me…CHE…CHE…CHE…CHE…

  • Gymbo

    It has always ben a source of great irritation for me that Obama is credited for high intelligence by those who should know better, including a majority of much-respected conservative pundits and bloggers. The fact that he graduated in Law with high honors seems , to them, to be proof positive of superior intellect. They manifest the attitude which has contributed to a large degree to the success of the scam the Alinsky/Axelrod organization has perpetrated: an insistence on” being fair” – a fatal weakness in defeating an enemy whose strategy is based on deceit and guerilla tactics.

    It isn’t just a matter of errors in speech, in elementary history, or geography, or economics, or simple business practices. It is also in lying in matters where his dishonesty is obvious to any reasoning mind. He sat for 20 years in Wright’s Cathedral of Black Liberation Gospel and never once observed an anti-American rant. Bill Ayers was just an acquaintance that he ran into occasionaly in the neighborhood. He is a lover of Urdu poetry. Of Pushkin. These are simple-minded, flagrant lies. No person of intelligence would expose his inadequacies by such obvious lying.

    And there is the desperation of his team to maintain total and complete silence on anything that relates to actual achievement: no scholastic records at any level. All “lost”. No reference to his performance as a manager in Ayers Annenberg Challenge debacle. No quotes from his publications in Chicago’s black newspaper.

    And the dim-witted things he does in foreign relations. Gives the Queen of England an ipod of his speeches. A full bow from the waist to an Arab potentate whose high state is totally due to sitting on an ocean of oil. Endlessly criticizing his predecessor. Cottoning up to communist banana republic tin-pot Jefes. These are not the acts of an intelliigent person, aware of his world stature. His rhetoric, delivered with great panache and air of plausibiliy, does not stand up well to fair analysis.

  • ONTIME

    Barry Sotero, a Alinsky student, who like Bubba Clinton believe that truth is relative and that facts only serve to get in the way. This is why libs need a Minstry of Truth to guide them and to tell them what the meaning of is, is.

    Libs love to tell you all about what they do not know and expect you to listen as though each of their words were written in stone.

    This should serve to tell you why the libs live in absolute fear of having their views and agenda challenged, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are two such documents that make their efforts miserable failures.

  • CS

    totally incredible how much the liberal mind has been INFECTED by the communist based and “created” education system that stemmed from avowed communist John Dewey in 1933 when this traitor imported from germany’s frankfurt school ALL of their professors and implemented them in high positions within our public and university education system. this means these commies wrote the books and decided the curriculum for our education system since 1933. thus you got the 1960′s and out of that commie mess you NOW have in POWER those commie radicals that are now in their 60′s running this country!!! the illegal in charge is a product of that radical thinking as his entire history is made up of close associations with anti american commie radicals with anti american agendas!!! the truth hurts!!!!! so wake up you dumbed down idiots and educate yourselves to FACTS and connect the dots!!!!

  • Skychief

    So much to say with so little space. If someone voted for Obama because he was black or they were black, is that not racism? Bottom line is nobody cares what color he is as long as the Constitution is followed and Capitalism is embraced. We have 535 people representing us. SS, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. would not be bankrupt if they did not want it to happen. When a corporation donates to both parties they expect a return on their investments. Thus, a campaign is so expensive to run that our representatives sell their souls and our futures to get these funds. I could go on about past administrations but, they are not in power now, so I will focus on Obama and his. Just listened to Louis Farakahn and how he stated Obama was selected before he was elected. Obama’s parents, step-father, grandparents and his mentor Frank M. Davis were Marxists. In Obama’s own words in his book Dreams From My Father he said he sought these type of radicals out to align himself with. He found Christ through Black Liberation Theology, a very racist religion. He has practiced Saul Alinsky’s Rules For Radicals and continues to do so. Communist Professors Cloward/Piven said you may have to overload the country with social programs until the economy implodes and that is exactly what is happening. He is ignoring our borders and he will do what he can to give illegals the right to vote. He states that the spreading of the wealth around is a good thing. He will not investigate Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, which owns the majority of our mortgages and has helped cause the housing bubble and at the same time he lets Black Panthers go free after being convicted for election intimidation and fires Inspector Gerald Walpin (against the law he cosponsored) when a friend and donor was found guilty of misuse of government funds. He goes to Pakistan 2 times in college when it was illegal for Americans to go there (anyone know how). No school papers are ever shown. He gets into Harvard through the influence of a Saudi Sheik which is a big donor. Two hundred million in campaign donations from the Middle East in increments of under $50 a pop on prepaid debit cards. Campaign funds to democrats from Wall Street that are over 5 times more than given to Republicans. Promises no new taxes, pull out of Iraq, close Gitmo, no lobbyists in his administration, healthcare debates on C-Span, passes laws that no one can read after promising to have those laws on the internet for a week prior to the vote, chastises anyone that disagrees without addressing their concerns, uses Teabagger term, incites racial divides when 80% of the country wants are borders secured, will not let a real objective reporter question him. Promises 8% unemployment if stimulus bill is not passed immediately. Does not spend stimulus to create jobs but instead uses the funds to pay off political donors and increase entitlements. Prints and borrows money we don’t have. Insults our allies and embraces our enemies. I could go on, but those are just a few of the lies and anti-American practices going on. You wonder why people are upset? Saul Alinsky taught that the truth means nothing and the end justifies the means. As long as you promise the poor rewards, they will follow. The real power is in the white middle class. If your opponent does something right take credit for it, if you do something wrong, blame your opponent for it. Launches his career in William Ayer’s living room. How many Communist bombers do you think the average American hangs out with? You blind followers can’t defend him anymore just by calling others names and saying it is all Bush’s fault. There is an agenda here and people are listening to other sources besides liberal run media. By the way, Cloward, Piven and Alinsky preached that the best way to overthrow the country is to infiltrate government, the educational system and the media. You best make changes from within. There is just too much going on for the people who love this country and its premise to ignore anymore. Since I’m rambling, our forefathers opened each session with a prayer. There were 10,000 Bibles printed to be put into schools. Seperation of church and state has been so maligned when its real purpose was to not have one denomination in control, not to turn your back on God. Thanks for letting me say my peace.

    • chuck b

      great article!! that should hold the demo’nistas for awhile

    • Airangel

      Way to go Sky! You pinpointed the biggest points of why anger is rising and why no one trusts a President with an “erased” background…if he is so “for the people” then let us trust him by proving who he is and where he came from…if he is above board, let him prove it.

  • rcknrll

    wow…too funny how libs forget all the violence during Bush…the same signage was used and death threats were made. Let’s not forget the attempted poisoning. People started getting pissed during Bush and especially when the democratic congress took over in 2006. That’s when the rage started to set it….then we elect a “moderate” who is spending far more than Bush ever did. So this is why the rage…not due to racism. Remember a large majority voted for him as a moderate just to find out how much of a radical lefty he is. If you can’t see it, then you’re blinded by your “love” for him. You should always be critical of all presidents, watch the money trail and never hold them to a standard of “messiah”. Be careful what you vote for. It IS time to take back our country, but it should have started far before Obama got elected.

  • http://GOGGLE vaksal

    A OUTLOOK FROM AN OLD GUY,THE AMERICA I ONCE REMEBERED WAS ABOUT BEING AN AMERICAN ,NOT WHITE,BLACK,OR ANY OTHER RACE,AND IT WAS BASED ON THE TRAIN OF THOUGHT THAT THE (UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION )WAS THE LAW OF THE LAND AS THE BILL OF RIGHTS,TO BE PROTECTED BY THE ELECTED REPRESENTIVES OF EACH STATE,BUT IS THE PROPERTY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO BE HELD FOR ALL TIME IMMORTAL,SO WHAT HAPPENED? WHEN YOU HAVE A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT THINK THEY ARE ABOVE THE NATIONAL LAW OF THE LAND,CHAOS ,THATS THE PROBLEM,AND THE TEA PARTY IS THE BEST REMEDY IN SIGHT SO FAR,ITS TIME TO VOTE OUT THE LAWLESS REPRESENTIVES THAT HAVE VIOLATED THE VERY TRUST OF THE OFFICES THEY SWORE TO UPHOLD,AND THAT IS WHY I SUPPORT THIS MOVEMENT,BECAUSE IT IS EVERY AMERICANS RIGHT TO VOICE,ANYTHING THAT VIOLATES THEIR GOD GIVEN RIGHTS AS AFFIRMED IN THE( UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION ) AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS,ITS SAD TO SAY THIS,BUT ALL AMERICA HAS BEEN BETRAYED BY IT ELECTED REPRESENTIVES BOTH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS,ALL FOR PERSONAL GREED,TIME FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO PUT THEIR FOOT DOWN HARD ON THESE GODLESS,MONEY HUNGRY PEOPLE IN OFFICE,FOR THEY ARE DIVIDING THIS NATION INTO CHAOS.

    • Joe Kane

      Well said “Vaksal” well said!

  • Frank the Libertarian

    For anyone who is looking out your window patting yourself on the back stating that since we can type here, own guns (if there is no law prohibiting it)we are not experiencing FACISM…wake up…Its called Creeping Facism (Socialism) and its here and its real. The Goverment has too much power, and is grabbing more every year. Its not for the Good of all mankind either. Your delusional if you think it cant happen here in the USA and even more delusional if you think that “flipping the coin” will solve the problem either.
    Complete Removal from power is the only solution, both parties need a good long rest away from power.

    • JeffH

      Frank, so true.
      Hillary, Obama and the Cult of Alinsky: “True revolutionaries do not flaunt their radicalism, Alinsky taught. They cut their hair, put on suits and infiltrate the system from within. Alinsky viewed revolution as a slow, patient process. The trick was to penetrate existing institutions such as churches, unions and political parties…. Many leftists view Hillary as a sell-out because she claims to hold moderate views on some issues. However, Hillary and Obama are simply following Alinsky’s counsel to do and say whatever it takes to gain power.

      “Obama is also an Alinskyite…. Obama spent years teaching workshops on the Alinsky method. In 1985 he began a four-year stint as a community organizer in Chicago, working for an Alinskyite group called the Developing Communities Project…. Camouflage is key to Alinsky-style organizing. While trying to build coalitions of black churches in Chicago, Obama caught flak for not attending church himself. He became an instant churchgoer.”

      Obama helped fund ‘Alinsky Academy’: “The Woods Fund

      • Skychief

        Hillary did her thesis on Alinsky and almost went to work for him right out of college.

        • JeffH

          She actually had a couple of face to faces with Alinsky. I did find a copy online. The title is “There is only the fight…” An Analyisis of the Alinsky Model” by Hillary D. Rodham May 2, 1969
          http://www.scribd.com/doc/24567737/There-is-only-the-fight-An-Analyisis-of-the-Alinsky-Model-by-Hillary-D-Rodham-May-2-1969

          Every voter needs to read it from front to back. But there is a problem. The Clintons are suppressing distribution of this document. There are only two copies available to the public. One copy at Wellesley College in Massachusetts and a second copy which Wellesley sends out on interlibrary loan.

  • CS

    in conjunction with Dewey (the father of modern eduation)what a joke, this traitor was instrumental in securing many positions for these german commies in the guess where?? THE MEDIA!!! so now you gotr the story in a short nutshell, our educationsystem riddled with commies and the media riddled with commies! Mccarthy was hammered because he KNEW these facts and was exposing it but he was quickly silenced by Edward R Murrow another young associate of dewey’s!!! murrow knew the cat was out of the bag as he helped dewey in this traitorous effort!! and gusess what Murrow went on to be an acclaimed TV broadcastor fomenting his crap on tv!!! Yes the tea party people ARE a BIG threat as they KNOW the major trouble this country is in and NOW is the time to stop the corporatism communism that bush sr, clinton, bush jr and NOW the final PUPPET put in place by the REAL puppet masters of the world who are bent in destroying america as america is the LAST bstien they have on their world dominance march!!! the illegal alien said he would “fundamentally change america” what an advance warning!!!! you will be enslaved sooner than you think!! oh it can’t happen here!!! thats exactly what the REAL powers want you to think as they incrementally put in place their facets of war against the american way of life!!!! just look around and read everday there is a new crises that rahm emauel says “must be taken advantage of in order to do what they normally would not be able to do” tell me what do you think this scumball ment??????? in the end the german led EU will dominate us, we will be a 3rd world nation you can count on that!!! there is irrefutable PROOF of this occurance in our immediate lifetime!!!

  • CS

    the liberal mindset is incapable of discernment!! I have encountered this FACT for many many years!!!they actually are just UNABLE to get it!!!!! their reasoning is flawed as their god is satan, (the father of lies) “he who deceives the whole world’. ONLY a TRUE Bible based person with the TRUTH of Jesus Christs TRUE Gospel is able to understand WHY todays world is the way it is!!! Its not rascism that is the reaon this illegal is not liked its his policies and worldview for america coupled with his tyrannical form of governing that REAL America LOVERS do NOT WANT!!!!!!

    • timr

      Hey CS……..Why do you refer to Obama as an Illegal, and then say, that the Conversation has nothing to do with RACE……

      can someone answer this for me??……..This guy and others on this site, are proving my point………….

      • CS

        again another twisting of words and the true meaning of the words from yet another infected LIBERAL mind! to break it sown into something liberals might UNDERSTAND> an “illegal” is just that, NOT a race, but a fact of non citizenship of a particular country that that “illegal” invades and then portends to be of that country without being lawfully naturalized thus causing harm to the country being invaded financially and/or physically.
        thus the soon to be proven illegal in power is an illegal period!!!!

        • del

          CS Illegal may be the politically correct term, but I sure do like “parasite” a lot better

      • Darrell

        “Hey CS……..Why do you refer to Obama as an Illegal, and then say, that the Conversation has nothing to do with RACE……

        can someone answer this for me??……..This guy and others on this site, are proving my point………….”

        Well, timr you’re the only one making the assertion linking race & illegal immigration as a race issue. But you keep up the spin it confirms your ignorance!

        People are concerned over illegal immigration because it is….illegal…as well as the brazen violence & drugs that illegals bring into the border states especially.

        Never mind, you aren’t listening I know, the increasingly deranged accusations of racism you spin are making you deaf to commonsense. Stop it timr! Before you slit your wrists with rage….!!! I think it’s time for an LOL about now….

        • timr

          Darrel…….Keep wearing that “sheet”……..you make me sick…….

  • Frank the Libertarian

    Its very possivble that Russia may be the next best place to live as the USA crumbles under the weight of Tyranny & Facism. (or should I call it “Light Facism” since they havent shot me in the head yet?)

  • CS

    this illegal has stated that he thought the founding fathers erred when writing the constitution!!!!!!!!!!!!! did you get that!!! the constitution that was the BASIS THAT MADE this country the greatest country on the face of the earth this illegal thinks is flawed!!! thats because he has been educated in the spirit of satan, communism!!!!!!! facts you cannot deny as his history PROVES it!! where were the americans when this illegal was elected why did they NOT not vote for him!!!?? I understand mccain was a patsy put in by the “elitists” as well to ensure that their real PUPPET was elected!!! but anything would have been better that what we have now!!! and are getting on an hourly basis!!!!!!

  • eddie47d

    Right Wing at 7:09am , Think for a minute will you! You attack Obama over and over and over again and You expect the same results. Maybe you will wear everyone down with these same ol’ comments. I know the winds are in your favor with everyone nervous about the economy.Many of you can’t stand a different point of view and you want American Liberal to go away. American Liberal didn’t state anything that wasn’t a fact so take a chill.

    • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

      Eddie47d: Reading liberal posts at this site is like watching somebody toss a handful of scorpions onto a crowded dance floor. Some people will jump away, others will attack. But it’s all fun to watch.

  • chuck b

    its strange when some of you demo’nistas keep on harping about cheney and rush. they never served, well, did bill clinton serve? no, but he did go oveseas and protest againmst his government. did barry soetoro serve? no, but he went over seas and degraded his country.

    one compared the tea party as nazi’s, he saw the show on tv. (natl geo. carried a show last week about the amer nazi party) he failed to mention who narrated part of the show, none other than mark potok an attorney for the so. poverty law center. this org. is nothing more than a communist front org. so its like the kettle calling the pot black.

    i am a member of the tea party and have never heard anything detrimental towards our country. these people are all patriots and a lot of veterans. they do not approve of barry and its not his color they object, its his policies. the demo’nistas have to bring in the color of a person to use as a tool or wedge. barry can’t really be blamed he is not capable of running this government, he is only a mouth piece, an organizer, the tool for a shadow government you can’t see or hear. the only way to stop it short of revolting is vote them out in november if this fails then we can expect failure of our way of life.

  • Rick Quill

    Allright I’ve got to reply to timr to set the record straight on a few items. First of all, Obama IS a muslim AND HE IS A SELF-PROFESSED MUSLIM at that!! In his own book he wrote a passage wherein he stated that “if religion becomes an issue I will side with Islam”. As far as this all being drivin by “racism” is just plain absurd. Granted, there naturally will be those who still live in the dark ages and are racist but an overwhelming majority of Americans who are standing up to be counted and to decry the direction Obama, Pelosi, Reid and company are trying to take us in are not racists. I for one wanted to see former Gen. Powell on the ticket but then he threw his support behind Obama. Now I think of Powell as just as dangerous to our country as Obama and the current administration (actions speak louder than words). I did notice another poster on here who said they supported Condolesa Rice and I would support her too if she ran. At least we KNOW she’s a true-blooded American. By the way, I was an Intelligence Analyst in the Air Force for over 20 yrs before retiring 4 yrs ago with the years since 9-11 focusing on terrorist groups, their mentality, their agenda, and their founding beliefs just to name a few areas of focus. With that said I also knew of Obama’s upbringing and he was raised as a Muslim from age 6 thru 10 while he lived in Indonesia (Indonesia, by the way, is the world’s leading exporter of “radical” Islam and most of the Taliban and Al Queda leadership have their indoctrination roots in Indonesia). You see?….I did my research on him when I first learned of his intent to run as I did with all of the candidates only because I wanted to know who I was voting for. From age 11 thru 17, while Obama lived with his grandparents in Hawaii, his closest friend, mentor and confidant with whom he spent practically all his time with when he wasn’t in school or at home was an individual named Frank Marshall Davis who had long before been well established as a member of the Communist party as well as ardent promoter of Communism in America. He became a member of the Communist Party during WWII and it has never been established if/when he ever denounced his membership. Further research into this man also revealed that he was an author known as Bob Greene who “secretly authored a hard-core pornographic autobiography called “Sex Rebel: Black” published in 1968″. This was an appalling catalog of admitted real-life decadence laced with perverted sexual activity, bisexuality, rape – and the seduction of children. The bottom line in all of this is that one’s true character is defined by their associations and the longer, more established ones association with someone the more telling of their true character. Taking that into consideration you have to be honest with yourself and take a hard look at the long-term associations Obama has had with the likes of Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright, Frank Davis Marshall just to name a few. And then put those associations into context with his own admittance of being a Muslim and where he will side if religion should ever become an issue. My best advice to you is to become educated on what you speak of before you speak out. Since you obviously have access to a computer and the internet may I suggest you start with Googling Obama and Wikipedia. From there you may want to do some research on Wahabism which is the radical teaching that is followed by Muslim terrorists who are waging Jihad against the Western World. Wahibism just so happens to be the foundation of the school that Obama was enrolled in as a child. Of course we all know that you won’t take it upon yourself to become educated before speaking and that you will continue to rant and rave in concert with the progressives in Washington without doing your homework and basing your opinions on fact rather than what your (apparently highly-esteemed in your eyes) Socialist leaders want you base them on. Nuff’ said.

    • timr

      Let me guess, Mr Quill, you live in a small homogenous town?…..So what you are saying, is that we should only elect Christian, White men?……….If you were an intelligence analyst, I feel sorry for the security of this country………because you are showing your hate, for an ENTIRE Religion, and, you obviously have never heard of the Christian crusades, have you……….and what about those catholic Priests………who abused children with the entire Catholic church covering it up……….were THEY Muslim??

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear timr,
        Please cease with the race-based rants. It seems all you can do today is call others racist and it has grown tiresome. Please contribute substance if you plan to keep contributing.
        Best wishes,
        Bob

        • JeffH

          Thanks again Bob.

      • Airangel

        Timr – Mr. Quill’s analogy was very constructive and informative which is more than I can say for your childish rants

    • Peter

      Good post. Timr just doesn’t get it. I really think he is as thick as he sounds. His 15 minutes! Obama really does not stand up to scrutiny.

  • Gymbo

    The twisted beliefs of the Liberal:

    We wear blinders, unwilling and unable to see the evil in humankind, despite endless to the contraries: thus, we believe that everyone has some good in them, which allows for negotiation, no matter the deeds one has done.

    We are so consumed with the notion of global warming that we are willing to burden the American populace unnecessarily, despite the availability of oil in Alaska and off our coasts.

    The ills of the world are always the fault of the American government, especially if occupied by a sitting Republican president or Republican majority in our congress.

    We are so consumed with eradicating Judeo-Christian principles, tenets invaluable in shaping our nation, from our everyday lives, all for the expense of our own collective morality.

    We wish to indoctrinate our youth in their innocence, by force-feeding progressive values and alternative lifestyles into their daily school curriculum.

    We believe in open borders, encouraging illegal immigration and subsequent sanctuary cities, even at the unnecessary burden to the American taxpayer for education and health care costs.

    We believe in feeding the addiction of those who nurse at the teat of big government in the form of welfare and entitlements.

    We must eradicate the free market society that has propelled our country to the forefront in innovation and craftsmanship, for those who have riches and invested in jobs for millions of American workers do not deserve said riches.

  • CS

    don’t worry there will NOT be a place to live on this planet that is NOT under the “big bosses” control!!!! the WORD of GOD specifically states that hundreds of times!!!! its all coming together in super fast time now!! Gods proclaimed “delay” for the end times manifistation is over!!!
    america is under end times prophetic rule NOW!! the “house of israel” meaning the lost ten tribes is in the first stages of captivity that can actualy be SEEN by the discerning eye!!!! “mannaseh and ephraim will come against Judah” what do u thnk that means??? look it up in full context!!!
    its all spiritual people!!! and its ALL written and it ALL WILL come to pass just as ALL of the hundreds of other prophecies have come to pass!! the Unerrant WORD of the Creator of the Universe has planned!!! so the bottom line is this, come out of this world because “your citizenship is NOT of this world” Man cannot and is incapable of solving the problems facing this worlds man made satan inspired world!!!

  • skywolf23

    so freedom of speech is an abuse of power? you can criticize them if they never signed up for the armed forces, but does that negate any opinion for the countless number of people that did not serve? obama never served, clinton never served, bush 2 only served in the national guard, and may have gotten favors pulled to get him that position. kerry served but spoke out against the armed forces time and time again.

    serving or not serving does not grant anyone any special title or lack thereof to express a viewpoint.

    my bigger nitpick with rush is that he had often said on his show well drug users and addicts should be thrown in jail, smoke a joint goto jail, was rushes stance. meanwhile he was eating oxycontin like candy, doctor shopping he was more of an addict than any pot head, and just as illegal in how he obtained his pain meds. so i see rush as bit of hypprcrite on issues.

    but to equate lack of service with some lack of honesty when so many presidents have not served, so many talking heads on the left never served, and so many on the extreme left even have a sense of disrespect and looking down on people that serve.

    why should we fear obama and crew?

    because they used the nea and schools to brainwash children. to concoct left wing propaganda under the guise of education is just unexcusable and disgusting.

    to release security memos about right wing groups and equate them with terrorists, while no mention of muslim or left wing groups like elf.

    to brand critics as racists, no matter what the criticism is, a constant pattern is to just throw the term racist out and try to get people to back off.

    to ressurect things like the fairness doctrine, allowing government to tell radio and tv what shows they can have on? to single out fox news and demonize them as a right wing tool, but no mention of abc cnbc, cnn as left wing tools.

    to want to bring back card check for union voting. like the only way to get a fair and free vote is to not have a secret ballet. but to have union people standing in the voting booth with you. how in any sane world can this be rationalized as anything but thuggery and vote rigging is beyond me.

    to make up lies about the tea party. oh they are kkk and nazis and carrying guns and threatening fort knox, and politicians.

    now i never recall bush taking pot shots at television stations and newspapers, trying to use NEA and school programs to concoct pro right wing propaganda, i never recall bush purporting the only way to have fair elections is by having someone from the sanctioned side going to the voting booth with you. these are all things that this white house has stood up for defended and actually done.

    so is obama and crew facist? i think it is hard to argue anything but, particularly when they use their power to try to indroctinate children especially. but there is a whole overarching pattern and a clear belief of what this white house things is all fair and good, and it all smacks of control.

  • Airangel

    I really don’t know where we’re heading…Bernanke just agreed to create UNLIMITED numbers of unbacked dollars out of thin air to bail out European debtor nations!

    Yesterday, Fed Chief Ben Bernanke announced that the Federal Reserve will print UNLIMITED numbers of U.S. dollars and then use them to buy bonds offered by failing European governments. (junk bonds)

    and you wonder why Tea Partiers are so FED-UP with GOVERNMENT…they are being completely mindless of TAX-PAYERS and STEALING!

    First, the Fed printed billions to bail out Fannie and Freddie … billions more to bail out failed bankers … and billions more to bail out failed automakers …

    Now, Bernanke plans to print an UNLIMITED number of dollars to bail out Greece, Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Spain … the entire European Union!

    Over the weekend, Bernanke and the Fed ALSO agreed to create unlimited numbers of unbacked dollars to bail out Japan … plus up to $30 billion to bail out Canada … plus billions more to bail out the government of Switzerland. WE ARE BROKE! DON’T HAVE THE MONEY!

    • CS

      its all a shell game!!! the ‘bosses’ are meeting as we speak (tri lateral com) and then in early june the higher level of “bosses’ will meet (the bilderbergs) then they will have their agendas implemented by the CFR and the UN and all their underlings I could name a lot but its useless!! wake up to reality you understand it but not to the magnitude, keep reading and studying and you will. I suggest reading the book of daniel and then revelation slowly it will come together quickly!!

  • Frank the Libertarian

    Obama is in office as the POTUS..he is either our representative and Guardian of the Constituition or he is NOT. Its that simple. Regardless of anything about the man, his actions & words are what he is being judged by.
    To the Liberal Left, if you enjoy the freedom of Speech he has Violated your rights. To the Right, you know what he violates. I say he has violated everyones rights because he has plundered your property and taken ownership of your health.
    If he REALLY Cared for the Left & the Right as the POTUS is suppose to do, then he had other choices he CHOSE to IGNORE. Therefore he is Guilty of Treason, that simple.
    I say he because if he truely wanted Freedom & Liberty there were about 50 better ways of helping Americans. Goverment is FORCE and in many ways a poster child for Incompetence except when it comes to making things work less efficient.

  • CS

    so my fianl comment today is that what america is experiencing has been proclaimed in its entirety within the pages of the ONLY BOOK that can give you the FACTS of human existence, the purpose of our existence, the facts of what was here BEFORE creation and the future of man inot eternity and I assure you its NOT what mainstream man made religions have taught you!!!! if they even taught you anything!!!

  • chuck b
  • Frank the Libertarian

    My suggestion to anyone who reads here is this;
    1-Keep it simple, if the Politician Violates the Constitution they get one chance to redeem themselvs. If they fail, they get tossed.
    2-If they Violate one part of the Constitution they are Guilty of Treason regardless if they suit your personal adjenda or not.
    3-Right or Left, we need the Constitution to exist freely, we cannot cut one part and expect it to suvive a butchering.

    If anyones rights are getting Violated its a problem for EVERYONE, not just the ones under attack, for is one side gets favored the other side takes a hard revenge, almost what we are in right now!

    I use to say Hurray for the Right they protect the 2nd amendment..dumba$$ me forgot all about the other amendments… :( They work together to keep the Chains binding the Goverment, an dbinding any goverment is a good thing. We need to rebind the Goverment, not attack each other.

    • CS

      suggest going to rense.com and reading the 45 communist agendas for the united states!!

  • eddie47d

    C.S. Your “voice” was too generic and biased. “Their God is satan”? Some of us go to church every Sunday and ocassionally read the Bible when not in church.The Bible also talks about the elite,(wealthy who ignore the plight around them). Too many brush off corporate greed like it’s not their concern. They “worship” this form of worldview envy!

    • CS

      yes I am biased to the true teachings of Christ!! NOT any man made govt or man made religion! need to know there is a cause and effect for everything what is the cause of this worlds sickness?? WE SEE THE EFFECT and soon we will see even more effects!

      • CS

        and the effects stemming from the causes will be from the CREATOR!!

  • eddie47d

    Keith at 10:34am; “Limbaugh doesn’t support violence”? Please. He always stirs up trouble and then says,”now don’t get me wrong”. IN other words he stirs up bitterness and wrongdoings then denies responsibility for having said it and all in the same breath.

    • jim

      eddie, Tell me of one violent incident caused by any thing Limbaugh said.

    • Darrell

      What radio host wouldn’t? Rush is mild and reasoned in both his opinions and delivery…

      I’m sure you and your ilk will see racism in his words if he…rang a take out & ordered a pizza…but you keep that tune up!!

      • denniso

        Anyone who takes Limbaugh seriously and thinks that he knows anything and is harmless, is deluded or stupid…Limbaugh is a snake, though a rich one, thanks to his gullible and infantile listeners who want permission to hate liberals,environmentalists,femminists and all else who Limbaugh disagrees with. He’s also not harmless fun or entertainment.

        • angel-wanna-be

          Denniso, if you think Rush is bad, you ought hear Wilkow, he’s Rush on Steroids!!!

        • Jim H.

          Denniso, I will ask again, what violence happened because of anything Limbough said?

          • denniso

            That’s why he can get away w/ stoking the fever of violence, because it’s all but impossible to connect him to any violence directly…and when something happens the cops don’t usually care what the perpetrator says about his motivation,aside from the facts in a case.

            If you listen to the fatcat drug buyer and have any sense yourself,then you know what he’s up to…building up hate and fear against Obama and liberals in general.

          • Jim H.

            Denniso, Limbaugh is on while I’m at work, so I miss it. Again you can’t give a example, just insinuate unfounded accusations. Since I don’t have a chance to listen to his show I was hoping you could tell me. I guess NOT.

    • Jim H.

      Eddie(my cats name), I’m waiting for an answer. Denniso tried, but really couldn’t. So answer me.

  • JBR

    Ignore TIMR, he’s just ranting and isn’t even lucid. He’s simply spewing, regurgitating the far left talking points. There’s no reasoning with someone so close minded. Typical tactic of using ad hominum attacks, making false accusations and vile name calling. Nothing original there.

    • http://personallibertydigest robert williams

      This O B Bull —- Obama if you dont know what the Bo is for yes it stinks but worse then anything you had ever asmelled befor or Ever will Smell if somthing ti the trouth Just or Acording to the Bible to Ob And his Group It Wont Be Politicaly Right it Can only Be Implamented in The O B Ditator.s World if it is Unjust Our a Lye our if it is Against Gods Word Its OK With the Jerk offs. this is a fact Told to you By Robert Like it our Not IT IS A FACT TRY AND DEYE IT WHIN YOU FIND YOURSELF IN A FEMA DETENTION CAMP JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE AGAINST THE CORUPT DICTATORAL Bums In There TEmporary Positions they Hold For a short time FOR Whin God Comes Back yhe Frout Cakes Will LOuse And Forever Burn In Hell.

      • denniso

        Just another good, solid, rightwinger…

  • angel-wanna-be

    Well, Well, we seem to been taken over by Liberals today. And quite nasty too!__ What’s the problem, Liberals, did you p*ss off the boss, by not squashing enough Conservative Rhetoric?__Are you on a paid commision for converts or hourly?__If so, you’ll go broke here!__ It matters not what you Liberals say or how you say it, Race is NOT an issue. Even if Bambi was blue, I and a lot of other folks, would still agree, his fascist policies suck! Dissent is dissent, no matter which side of the road it falls on. The only thing that matters is keeping the debate peaceful. We will, but will you?__I have to give you Liberals credit, You keep trying to ignite a firestorm on this site here, but the difference is, those of us, that don’t agree with you, already know what your trying to do. Quite frankly it’s a waste of time to roll the die, How’s ’bout go play in the freeway!

    • JeffH

      angel-wanna-be…heh heh! Caught like a fox in the henhouse.
      “I love it when a plan comes together”…Hannibal-The A Team

      • angel-wanna-be

        JeffH, You got it baby!___lol

  • Kevin Amish

    Socialism always promises healthcare, education, jobs, etc…but has only ever been good at three (3) things; 1.) breaking their promises, 2.) oppressing their subjects, and 3.) killing their dissadents(sp).

    Any other questions as our president takes us down the road to proven failure? I didn’t think so!

  • robert brown

    You poor misguided constitution/Bible thumpers (yeah, some people realy need ‘authority’ to guide them) fail to realize that both documents are organic and can be used almost by anyone to prove anything they want. Please, resort to reason instead.

    • Kevin Amish

      Mr. Brown,

      Sir, with all due respect, you might want to consider that true ‘Christians’ the ones who believe and admit that Jesus Christ is the Son of the Living God, have a bigger perspective in life, one that extends far beyond this world. If you would be willing, I would love the chance to share some of those truths with you, inviting you to have an opportunity to share in that life as well.

    • Kevin Amish

      Mr. Brown,

      I would also like to add that I have been a Biology Teacher at a very large high school in my area. I have had to deal with the ‘Evolution’ mindset of people who try to use ‘reason & science’ to prove the Creation of the world. Reason & science does not fully explain how and why the earth (as well as other planets, the solar system, etc) was created because there are so many loop holes. We know that Charles Darwin was extremely short-sighted, had a bad case of ‘tunnel vision’ (so to speak) and had a very limited perspective on ‘how and why’ the earth (and it’s species) came to be. There have been no factual findings to support his theories and, in fact, new discoveries are proving his theories to actually be wrong.

      To prove a fact, you have to have more than ‘reason’ to make it happen. Unfortunately, ‘reason’ alone, has been proven to be ‘not enough.’

  • Kevin Amish

    I would like to suggest that everyone please sit down and read the Declaration of Independance followed by the Constitution of the United States. Both are awesome documents, complete, and without scruples. Please take a few minutes to think about what they say and what they mean to you as an individual, guaranteeing personal freedoms and granting you the freedom to think and speak individually, respecting others in the process.

    Now understand this: EVERY government official, military personal, state and local police officer, etc…especially those who hold office, that when taking office, each one was sworn ‘to protect the Constitution of the United States of America from it’s enemies, both foreign and domestic.’ Meaning, that anyone who tries to dismantle, destroy, nullify, put an end to, etc…any part of the Constitution of the United States of America, is in violation of that oath, making them subject to impeachment, possibly setting themselves up to being labeled as an ‘enemy of the state’ including the president.

    Anyone can have loose-lipped rhetoric against this fact, to be able to do that is a result of that very same Constitution that you may be speaking out against, but the fact that it’s true still remains…and will not go away!

    Funny thing…I always hear and read about people fleeing from communistic / socialistic countries to ‘obtain a better way of life’ but I NEVER hear or read about it from a capitalistic country…they all want to stay! Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I wonder why that is?

    • CS

      here here!! foreign and DOMESTIC seems as those we have a domestic problem that needs to be fixed or eradicated by the military, where are the Pattons when you need them?

    • Time

      Hi Kevin,

      Just overall super posts you have provided, thanks for taking the time and stating so many “TRUTHS,”

      That most who would tend to disagree with you who also saddly post here with the single intent to stir the pot as well to inflame others, they just can’t fathom TRUTH or reason and saddly I don’t know if they ever can or will.

      God Bless you and keep you safe my friend, TIME

  • CS

    another liberal infected anything goes voice! wow! NO the Bible you call a document cannot be used to prove anything you want!! its only that satan filled mankind is unable to comprehend the FACTS of the message the Bible gives!!!

  • CS

    “lest those days be shortened NO flesh shall be saved” Hmmm wonder what Christ was talking about?? “what seems right to a man leadeth to DEATH” another quote that a liberal won’t understand!!

  • Rick Quill

    Obviously timr you missed my entire point. No I do not believe, as you seemed to glean from my post, that we should only elect christian, white men. Nor do I have a hatred for Muslims. Just the opposite in fact. I do, however, have a hatred for the radical faction of Islam that is waging this jihad against the free world and trying to force their beliefs and teachings on ALL christians. Not all of Islam is of that mindset. But Bin Laden stated from the very beginning after 9-11 that his goal was to convert Christians to Islam and those who won’t convert then they need to be killed in the name of Mohammed.

    Nor do I condone the actions of a few wayward Priests in the Catholic Church and I will leave it up to the courts as well as God to mete out the appropriate punishment(s).

    I suggest you go back and reread my post but in the meantime your response only proves the point that you “Libretards” see, hear and read only what you want to and that you don’t base your arguments on facts. If you did you would not be posting the dribble that you spew.

    My final thought, however, is that you are extremely fortunate that ignorance when it comes to history and current affairs is not a crime. Otherwise you would surely have found yourself in prison a long time ago. Perhaps even worse……your head cut off by some Taliban/Al Queda member lucky enough to have met you.

  • http://www.churchofthemuzzelflash.com/ Freeman

    Now that we gots a Tea Party, maybe we should start dunkin them…?
    I know, elections and all that nice peaceful stuff, not participating, etc.
    So we got black ops, swat teams, and now the military involved.
    When are citizens going to start enforcing our rights?
    After all, violating basic rights seems to be in vogue now. Maybe at one of these rallies those gathered might simply take the enforcers down. Just overpower them by numbers, handcuff them, and put them in the paddy wagons they brought for us…sweet dreams are made of these.
    Accordingly, how about using legalities to reduce these shows of intimidating forces?
    The choice is simple, quit the whole system (taxes, elections, etc.), or use peaceful force to overtake/retake them.
    Educated, wealthy, and not functioning as a real protest…?
    The Tea Party might look into offering a legal fund through donation, in order to address the ideas these people seem to like to put on us! Remember the down your throat health care, was a show of ‘force’.
    Isn’t anyone tired enough to offer their legal expertise to combat these intimidater’s?
    Recalling those who did it all might get things started, hmmm?
    Filing civil rights suit against each public servant who authorized the execution of the crowd control?
    I’d love to do this peacefully, BUT, I don’t see any of ‘them’ leaving because their conscience bothered them, you?
    The work is great, the laborers few…
    GIT-R-DONE!

    • CS

      the problem is that these liberal godless communists have rammed political correctness down our throats for decades, they have been under the radar for 70 years planning exactly what is happening and the normal everyday joe has been dumbed down by the steelers, britney, and the rest of slight of hand they offered until now is their time and they got control over everything by a slow gradual process until america is in its last gasping breath to stave off the attack of the REAL power of the world, which is in europe!!!

      • Sidewinder

        The hunt for domestic “Terrorists” has become the New McCarthism.

      • denniso

        Poor CS…feeling a little panic and fear at the rise of the evil LIBERALS???

        • denniso

          Now, now Freeman…you’re sounding a bit treasonous and your comment is really just so much drivel…look it up.

        • JeffH

          Oh yeah!

          bringing in the sheep
          bringing in the sheep

  • http://gmail i41

    timr, I think you would like to be a red neck, you could be one if cut you dreedlocks and get a good hide scrubbing! Progressive liberals are so in lock step with the fake muslim President. If he had really had to show his grades, school enterance records, his missing years spent in madrasses, and exactly what mud hut where ever, that was, then I think more people wouldn’t have a problem with the phoney. The issue isn’t if he is black, blue, purple, orange or green. He is such a eleitist, he has done nothing but dream and go to school and sell drugs and agaitate. He is so damn dumb he couldn’t pour urine out of a boot, if the instructions were written on the heal. He continues to spend and waste money, that is borrowed, sometimes spend twice, and he has not a massive clue, the screw up he has made. Unless he is planning to be come a dictator, because he sure is following the centuries of failed play books of dictators. As for dems and their pus brained snuck, putting down anyone that disagrees with them. Hopefully the next to elections can aspirate and incise their ilk form office. Then people will not have to put up and listen read what these scrouts refering to tea parties as nazis and the kkk, which were democrat off shoots. The dems are giving our borrowed money to IMF to loan to a socialist country, what do we get, we pay the interest, when if ever will be get paid Omoron the numnut, appointed another over educated, do nothing, to the supreme court, she hate the military, beleives in the BS of being a dean and doesn’ like corporations and thinks there is people who are invisable and don’t have rights. Just what the courts need some one who doesn’t beleive in the constitution and want to revamp it, which is stood for centuries. Lib democrat socialists will wrap their lips around that nugget and increase the vacum, on that far left dream!

  • http://freeusa.webs.com/ Acerdude

    I am the Tea Party. I have been in the Tea Party since it began. I can authoritatively say that the crap the government says about us is just that, crap, it is false.

    I am also a Benefactor Member of the NRA and I was awarded the Defender of the Constitution Award.

    These clowns in the White House are the true enemies of the state and we in the Tea Party seek legal and Constitutional PEACEFUL methods to stop these tyrants from destroying our future. I am also inviolved in a class action lawsuit against the Federal government for what they have passed in the unconstutional Health Care bill.

    See the website if you want to see a copy of Obama’s long form birth certificate proving he was born in Kanya… http://freeusa.webs.com/

  • http://gmail i41

    Freeman, trail lawyers are bunk buddies with democrat party, check out how dems hide papers, bury papers , even destroy paers by carrying them out in their underwear, do they get prosacuted or jailed, no, when private land is taken for private development, or voting places are blocked by known racists black thugs, any legal repercutions, Nooo! Now his Att. Gen. is planning to deny gun ownership right to former military service persons, also a long with this, a hand pickup group will decide who can have a ccw permit, and in this same plan groups will be determined, if determintal to government interior peace will be monitoried. Have anything in common with the National Socialist Democrat Party? People don’t just think the muslim’s radical inner group are looking out for the good of the USA. think again about the National Democrat Party and their back room deals. Omoron just spent over 20 million dollars to bring more muslim terrorists to the USA to live off our borrowed money, this group includes Hammas and other Palistine thugs here, any questions. I called my Congessional Rep. and started asking questions, guess what, the staff couldn’t back away fast enough, it was an excetive order I was told, no checks or controls, didn’t hear a squeak for the dem Congress, have you, never will. Probably send these muslims to NY, Detroit, or LA, for training on explosivies and destroying the USA. Omoron said, in his own words, if religion was involved he would go along with Islam, still have doubts on his allegance to the USA or his radical czars and appointments?

  • jim

    In other articles about the Tea Party movement I have asked the people posting against it to tell me what part of what the Tea Party stands for is wrong and to tell me what the real truth is. They never have. I see name calling and false accusations ( racist, haters, KKK,), but never a true rebutal. They resort to, where were they 8 years ago. Your mad that the group you hate so much didn’t form sooner? Make up your mind. I’ve never seen so much blind hatred for something that they can’t say why. What part of smaller government, less taxes, a balanced budgetor getting back to the Constitution don’t you like?

    • Time

      Jim,
      Its going to be hard to get an answer from people that are here just working to inflaming you and others like us.
      They really don’t care about anything but the {end game,} that is again is to push your buttons and anyone else who feels that we need to get back on tract with the foundation of this country, rather than the path BarryO and his Marxist Czars want for us all.

      That makes these buffoons spew this crazy vitirol about anyone who dare disagree with the Pretzel logic they toss out like so road apples.

      Note how many have used the term “Raciest” in just this blog today, the good folks on this sight are not raciest, but if these buffoons make that statment long enough they will get someone to do an act that may provide them with the case they are working so hard to make.

      I am not sure we should push them out as they offer a {glance into the PERVERTED mind set of the Progressive movement.}
      This in the big picture lets us know what the next steps are.

      I am sure that we will see a push from BarryO and his specail Czars to remove sights like this sight, why – due to its being not political correct as in working for BarryO and his henchmen, as well I am sure that the Marxist in DC are working day and night to find some way of making that happen.

      Afterall once the First amnd is shut down the next step is the 2nd then its Checkmate. Game over.

      • denniso

        Jim…here’s what’s wrong w/ the tea party. They sat mum while Bush made gov’t bigger than ever w/ the trillion $$ drug plan…they kept quiet when Cheny whipped the country into a war fervor w/ lies to get support for his Iraq invasion, murdering thousands of civilians and thousands of our young people, and costing an eventual trillion $$…
        your tea party tough guys kept quiet when Bush broke the law and violated your supposedly beloved constitution w/ illegal surveilance and spying on Americams…

        Then we elect a Black man president who’s trying to fix the biggest mess we’ve been in, including the economic collapse that began under Bush, and you guys go ballistic and scream that Obama has wrecked the constitution and is a want to be dictator and you have to take back your country. And though Obama has done and said nothing as president about guns, you people are strapping guns on and trying to intimdate others w/ your lousy clint eastwood imitations.

        That’s waht’s wrong w/ the hypocrital tea party.

        • JeffH

          yawn!

          • denniso

            sure JeffH…that’s just what dummies do in class, isn’t it?

          • JeffH

            YaWWWWWWNNNN!

            bringing in the sheep
            bringing in the sheep

          • libertytrain

            Denniso – it would have been difficult for the Tea Party movement to act at those times, since they didn’t exist at those times, but they do now —

        • Airangel

          Denniso, OB is half white…mostly white people died to end slavery and the KKK because it was just wrong…yes there are some that are still racist in this world but for the majority we are a very diversified, cultural society…mankind will always fight for good vs. evil and wrong doing…as I said to Am Lib…I hope you both can see your own “white racism” and find peace in your heart…look to the good in people, not their skin color

        • Jim H.

          Denniso, So you’re saying the Tea Party movement should have happened sooner? Better late then never, Don’t worry they’re here now, help is on the way. How many times are you going to repeat that LIE about it being about RACE. It’s really getting tiresome. Condi Rice would have gotten my vote, I’m not sexist or racist. Rice was smart enough to know she doesn’t want the office of President. We just strongly disagree with this mans policies. Bush has been gone for 17 months now, your blind hatred can start dying down now. So try again what’s WRONG with the Tea Party movement.

          • denniso

            Jim, once again…were you and other conservatives calling Bush/Cheny names and demanding their birth certificates and screaming that they were shredding the constitution and busting the budget? You don’t have to have a ‘party’ formed do you before you can open your mouth and complain…only a handful of Repubs ever crtiticized what Bush did. Why not? Why now?

            I don’t think it is all or even mostly racism…I think the conservatives are blindly loyal to their presidents and then automatically attack when a Dem is elected, even if the policies are
            very little different. And even if, like now, the Dem inherits the problems from the Repub.

            It’s mostly hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty fuel by hatred and fear.

          • Jim H.

            Denniso, We didn’t need to ask about Bush’s birth certificate, he can show one. I didn’t like when Bush did the stimulus spending, so when Obama decided to do it even more I was also against it. Now in your mind was it BAD when Bush did it, but GOOD when Obama did the bale outs? Or were both Bush and Obama WRONG, or did you agree with something Bush did. If it was good when Obama did it it was good when Bush did it. If it was wrong for Bush then Obama screwed up too. This Obama inherited all this, argument, since he was telling us every thing that was wrong while he was running for President, I would think he should have known what he was getting into. So he should quit sniveling. I wouldn’t call standing up for something you really believe in hypocrisy, or fear, just knowing what you believe and standing up for it. Now are you against the balanced budget, do you want even bigger government, you want to be taxed MORE? Besides the false accusation of racism or they didn’t form in time, what is wrong with what the Tea Party stands for?

          • denniso

            The only good thing Bush ever did was to listen to all economists who warned that if he didn’t prop up the financial system we would have a depression that would make the ’29 depression look like a picnic. Some Repubs went along w/ him and are now paying the price,like Bennet from Utah being forced out for supporting the tarp. Bush tried to bail out the auto co’s but the repubs blocked him…I’m glad that Obama did it.

            And you’re evading the main point…Why weren’t conservatives shouting over the abuses of the constitution by Cheny/Bush? Why are they so hyperbolic now? It’s obvious to any objective observer…they hate Obama because he’s a Dem, w/ a slightly liberal turn and some of the hatred is racism, because he’s black.

          • JeffH

            DUH!

            bringing in the sheep!
            bringing in the sheep!

          • Jim H.

            Denniso, I’m not evading your question of why the Tea Party movement didn’t start earlier, I just don’t know the answer to the question. It could be they don’t have the blind hatred towards Bush that you do. I thought you got past that RACE issue, but like the broken record you are you have to come back to that LIE, because you just CAN’T come back with anything substantial.

          • libertytrain

            Jim – Condi would have gotten my vote. I don’t think we’ve seen a more brilliant person in public office – and she was a woman. I think you are correct, she was far too bright an intellectual star to even want the presidential job. I believe her incredible talents would have been wasted there.

    • JeffH

      jim, blind hatred is a powerful drug to these libs. My mother would backhand me to this day if I showed that kind of hate towards anyone.
      Their confusion tells them that “when in doubt, lie, cheat and steal and call them every name in the book and don’t forget to hate them”.

      I don’t understand it, never could, never will. I’ve never “hated” anybody in my life and don’t plan on starting anytime soon.

    • jsin

      as long as the tea party acts as an extension of fox news it cannot be trusted and yeah they are 8 years late

      • JeffH

        jsin

        bringing in the sheep!
        bringing in the sheep!

  • American liberal

    The founders wanted to make sure their was a seperation of church and state… And if you rightys had any commonsense you’d want religion and government seperated too…. In the not to distant future this country isn’t gonna have the white European face it has now and when your no longer the majority youay not like the religion of the majority.. What your doing will blow up on your Christian faces…. And you’ll deserve it…..you could also find yourselves to be the victims of the samekind of racist attitude you spew now…

  • American liberal

    Your white power is just about at it’s end and that’s what’s driving this hate for our president…. It has nothing to do with spending or anything else this lawfully elected president has done…. The hate and lies started well before he was elected…. You rightys might be in for a suprise in November… I believe democrats and progressives will do far better than you think… I’d bet that president Obama will get his second term… Which will drive you rightwing racist nuts…

    • Airangel

      Am Lib..have you looked in the mirror and judged your own hate and “white racism”? you need to find peace in your heart and forgive whoever has hurt you so bad that you are blinded by a misguided hate…more “whites” than “blacks” as you call it…died fighting to free and end Slavery because they were just as disgusted with some “rich elitists” doing something very wrong. It was also mostly white compassionate majority that overthrew the KKK because it was wrong…All races inherently fight for the “right” reasons and most of those “reasons” are good doings vs. bad doings so please try to see the truth with your own eyes and don’t falsely accuse…it could very well be a white person that saves your life one day…look to the heart and soul of a person, not the color of their skin. May God Bless you and have mercy on you.

      • denniso

        Are you intentionally ignoring the hundreds of thousands or millions of black slaves who died in the slave trade and on the plantations?
        Women,kids,old men…

        • Jim H.

          OR the Jews until Moses saved them, or the Brits& Irish that were taken by the Vikings. History is full of injustices.

        • JeffH

          bringing in the sheep!
          bringing in the sheep!

        • David Weber

          denniso – This may shock you. Slavery is still practiced in some parts of Africa. Genocide is still practiced (you have heard about Sudan right?)there today as well. Where is your outrage? But I forgot, that’s just multiculturalism right? If this is all Bush’s fault, why hasn’t Obama stopped this? Wouldn’t he want to get credit for saving the world from the evil Bush=Hitler?

        • libertytrain

          Denniso – I’m sure you will say the slave trade from days of old, with the black kings selling their captives to the both black and white merchants who all profited from the slave trade, is GWB’s fault. I’m sure the slavery rampant in Africa today and other parts of the world including this country where young girls are held as sex slaves, is also GW’s fault. What are you doing to help stop the slave trade going on in your life time? There’s nothing we can do to change what occurred 200 years ago in this country…ever. But you can help those that need help today. Let me know how it goes once you begin trying to stop slavery in 2010.

    • libertytrain

      American Liberal – and what are you doing to eliminate slavery in this world today? Sitting on your computer calling people racists doesn’t accomplish anything when there really are horrors that really could use some more warm bodies to step in today, like the slave trade in other parts of the world, the sex trade and slave trade illegals have created here with young illegal gals and other’s forced to work as slaves…You’re all talk – no action. Move to actual physical action. Then maybe you will have earned the ability to tell us who you think we are – perhaps by then your brain will be aware of the truth rather than the stream of garbage you’re being fed by your leftist handlers.

  • American liberal

    Robin… Read my post again concerning the rich and you tea baggers…. I didn’t day the baggers were rich… I said the rightwing rich are funding you tea baggers… They’re using you because they know their Bush tax cuts will expire in 2011… Most of you tea baggers are older people and most of you are on one or another government programs like social security , Medicare , medicaid or have been…..most of you have also been on unemployment at some point…when you hear ” your taxes are going up.”.. It really means ” the Tax cuts on the top 2 % are going to expire and their taxes are going back to the same tax code we had during Clintons presidency … Youre being used and that’s why were gonna see more articals like this one … Bob Livingstons taxes are going back up to 33.3 and he needs you riled up…

  • http://totus-blog.blogspot.com Ron Russell

    It seems when you on the left have nothing left to say you always fall back on the race card—you’re beginning to sound like the boy who hollowed wolf one too many times. Keep it up and the term “racist” will lose whatever stigma it has left. I pray you guys just keep tossing that term about.

    • denniso

      And why do you ‘pray that the term rascist keeps getting tossed around? So that people will be free to be rascist?

      If you think that some people aren’t actual rascists then you’re pretty naive or unaware, and those people should be called on it, by all of us, you and the rightwingers as well.

      • JeffH

        denniso, doesn’t even deserve a response. You toss your hate and drivel at everybody like a handfull of pennies. Go back to your pack, cower to the alpha male and bay at the moon.

        • denniso

          JeffH…’hate and drivel’?? Because I know as well as anyone w/ a brain that we still have racism in this country? Tell me, why would he pray for the word racism to lose it’s stigma? Answer the question rather than just call me names..

          • http://totus-blog.blogspot.com Ron Russell

            Sure we have racist, but your defination of one is anyone who opposed Obama and liberalism—enough of your BS! I’m tired of hearing it, nuff said!

          • denniso

            Ron…no, everyone who’s opposed to Obama is NOT a racist. But if you can take the debate, it’s a free country…get off the site. Simple.

          • denniso

            Of course, you didn’t answer as to why you pray that the word racist loses it’s stigma…

          • Jeff

            Heh, heh heh!

            Bringing in the sheep
            bringing in the sheep

          • http://GOGGLE vaksal

            I REALLY LIKE THIS SITE,BECAUSE IT BRINGS OUT THE BEST OF THE NAME CALLERS AND FINGER POINTERS THAT SOUND AS IF ANYONE ON THIS SITE IS RACIST,WELL IT SEEMS THAT THE LIBERAL BUNCH ARE CONCERNED,ABOUT ANYONE JUST POSTING WHAT THEY THINK OR FEEL. THIS IS STILL AMERICA,THE LAND OF FREE SPEECH AND EVERYONE HERE IS VOICING WHAT THEY THINK,AND THE TEA PARTY IS GOING TO BE THE VOICE OF THE AMERICAN VOTERS,FOR ALL RACES THAT ARE SICK OF CORRUPTED PARTYS BOTH DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN,SO LIVE WITH IT DENNISO, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE FED UP WITH THE MARCH TO DESTRUCTION ,THAT HAS BEEN SUPPORTED BY THOSE WHO COULD HAVE STOPPED IT LONG AGO,AND IF I REMEMBER RIGHT,IT WAS A DEMOCRAT THAT SIGNED (NAFTA) AND GAVE AWAY THIS NATIONS INDUSTRIAL BASE,AND ALL THE LIBERALS BACKED ,THIS IN CONGRESS,AND PUSHED IT AS A GREAT ECONOMIC MOVE THAT WOULD BENIFIT THIS NATION,SAD BUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU HAD A BETTER IDEA,AND WENT ONE STEP BEYOND AND BANKRUPTED THIS NATION LONG BEFORE BUSH GOT INTO POWER WHY? BECAUSE WHEN THOSE HIGH PAYING JOBS LEFT,THEY WERE REPLACED WITH JOBS THAT MONKEYS CAN DO,HAMBRUGER FLIPPERS,CARWASH WORKERS,AND A REAL MONEY MAKER DISHWASHING,THE REASON I HAVE POSTED THIS IS IN ALL IVE POSTED IS THERE ONE BIT OF RACISM,NO JUST FACTS AND AS FAR AS POSTING SLIGHTS AGAINST MY FELLOW BLOGGERS,AND NAMECALLING THAT IS FOR STREET TRASH TYPE PEOPLE,AND I KNOW YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THOSE TYPE PERSONS,BUT A REAL STANDUP,LIBERAL COMMUNIST TYPE THAT WANTS TO SET US ALL STRAIGHT,ON THE ROAD TO TOTAL GOVERNMENT CONTROL,IF I AM WRONG PLEASE TELL ALL OF US WHAT NEW DREAM WORLD LIFE,YOU THINK IS BEST,MAYBE MINDLESS SHEEP, PLEASE KEEP THE RANT YOUR BAD SIDE IS A WAKEUP CALL FOR EVERYONE THAT LOVES FREEDOM,DENNISO ,THE SLEEPING GIANT IS WAKING UP AND ITS NOT GOOD FOR YOU NAME CALLERS AND TROUBLE MAKERS,TELL THAT TO THE OTHER LEFTIES TOO.AMERICA IS STILL THE LAND OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE,AND NOT JUST FOR THE RADICALS OF THE LEFT WING, OH,AND RUSH LIMBAUGH IS NOT WHAT I CALL A REAL TEA PARTY LEADER,FOR THE TEA PARTY IS WHAT SHOULD BE RIGHT IN GOVERNMENT,NOT CORRUPTION IN GOVERNMENT,DENNISO HOW ABOUT THE MILCON SCANDAL,DIANE FIENSTEIN,AND THE 123 DEMOCRATS THAT INVESTED IN THE WAR INDUSTRIES OF THIS NATION AND MADE A FORTUNE ,OF COURSE MEMORY LOSS? YOU SEE WE ARE THE VICTMS OF ALL THESE ELECTED PEOPLE NOT DOING THEIR JOBS,THAT MEANS YOU TO DENNISO,WE HAVE ALL BEEN USED,AND THE TEA PARTY MAY BE THE LAST CHANCE TO SAVE ALL THE RIGHTS WE HAVE SAY WHAT WE THINK,SO PLEASE THINK ABOUT IT,AMERICA IS BEING DESTROYED FROM WITHIN.

          • libertytrain

            Only a leftist plant would keep harping that it is racist not to vote for a person we didn’t agree with politically. You absolutely make no sense. Sharpton and his group of pals, early on, before obama decided to run – ‘said he was too white – black folks wouldn’t vote for him cause he was white.’ Now that was what I was taught is a racist statement. Perhaps those nuns were wrong, but that’s what I was taught.

      • Barb

        Well dennisso, you should know because you lefties are the racists!You guys keep it alive and well not us!

        • denniso

          We keep racism alive?? We’re the racists? Are you nuts? We keep it alive because we try to stop it, while you good ‘conservatives’ stop it by ignoring it?? You need some help in logic, my dear.
          Now that’s some double speak…look below at i41 and tell me who’s racist…

          • Jeff

            bringing in the sheep
            bringing in the sheep

          • Peter

            Correct! They are the true racists. Everything is about race as far as they are concerned. Tea Party is protesting (must be racist), Anti Healthcare Bill people are protesting (must be racist), Black Man joins the Republican Party ( he’s an Uncle Tom). Dr. King had it right about the color of a mans skin, but if you followed his teaching, you would have to stop hating and yelling Racist every time someone passes gas!

          • libertytrain

            constantly calling everyone a racist is not actively stopping anything. But it is demonstrating that the left has nothing else to say – you really need to learn new lines.

          • angel-wanna-be

            Denniso, I’m almost amused.

          • denniso

            I’m pleased that I can amuse you a little…the world is pretty grim lately and we need some amusement…don’t we?

          • JeffH

            The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.

          • angel-wanna-be

            Denniso, the world is only grim if you play along. Ya gotta know your heart, do what’s right and read the bible. His plan is in there and already laid out, all we need to do is follow it. It’s when WE get big headed and think we know better than God, is when we get our azz’s in trouble.

          • denniso

            I’m not talking about my life looking grim, but the grim lives of millions around the world. War,exploitation,wasted lives,environmental
            destruction…my life, like most of us Americans, is good and easy.

  • Nick Nickolis

    When it Comes To The Anti American Jewih Conspircy,Of the ADL. ACLU.AIPAC,World Zionist Organization and The Southern Law and Poverty Org. ETC.,Etc> ETC. involvement,started with Wodrow Wilson,Bernard Barouch,Louis Brandisa and furtherd By Franklin delano Roosevelt and it will not be posted on this Site as they own you and you Children You Pay Their federal Tax on you food to See and Speak,Work Drive and use Your Toilet

  • Kim McGough

    HEY CJ and the rest, timr is having a blast with all of you, you know some just do this for fun or maybe aggravation. But people like timr and am lib really beleave all the junk that they put out and hope someone will reply so that they can ridicule them.

  • chuck b

    amer lib

    the zoo keeper must have left the cage unlocked, here you are again spouting off your liberal diatribe. one good thing about all that’s happening is the lame of mind that voted for barry are starting to see what a mistake was made. the tea party is a huge success and its starting to show, people aren’t buying your propaganda so you are resorting to that old demo’nista playing card “race”, insults to the
    elderly and the needy. our white faces are disappearing and what do you have left? a 3rd world country. so wise guy or gal show me a free industrialized, scientifically advanced country that is not run by white faces???? you left wing commies live to live off someone else, be it a unionized job or government. you can’t make it on your own.

  • http://google mike b.

    Where were all of you liberal thugs who support Huseein Obama and his marxist, communist radical regime when the Black Panthers were intimidating voters outside the polling precincts in Phil. when this anti-american thug Hussein Obama was being elected. They were carrying billysticks and threatning anyone who didnt vote for thier fellow thug Hussein Obama and average american citizens were scared to vote thier will and do thier american duty. The thugs have took over the american government and in the process of intimidating and threatning anyone whoi dosent agree or go along with H

    • denniso

      Lies, lies, lies…and, ‘the thugs have took over’?? What grade are you in??

      • anitamurie

        OMG, I have never seen such stupidity. Don’t even bother arguing with them, denniso Most are barely literate. I’ve tried to understand what they’re saying but when I do, they are so offensive; I have to laugh!

        • JeffH

          OMG!

          bringing in the sheep!
          bringing in the sheep!

        • angel-wanna-be

          Anitamarie, “me thinks, ye been sippin’ a wee much of the Libbie koolide___Saavy?

        • denniso

          anitamurie…hi there. Some here are a little smarter than others, and sure, it’s a struggle at times to understad what the hell they’re trying to say,other than ‘taking back their country’, and ‘Obama’s a communist’…but, nevertheless, I’ve improved my still slow typing skills…and, I’ve talked to some pretty dense and shrill rightwingers in my life, but never so many in one place and I have to admitt that the challenge is a little fun. It also forces me to keep up on my own arguments so that I can try to poke holes in the feeble dikes of illogic on this site. And, there are a few of us more sane people here who are sort of jointly trying to fight some of the most ludricous ignorance in the hope of turning some of these people around.
          It is pretty funny at times, if sad…

          • JeffH

            DUH!nisso, keep your lovefest moving forward. Arguements? You’ve got none! Name calling and ridicule, now that’s your specialty! You have found your niche in life and you are sticking to it.

          • angel-wanna-be

            jEFFh, I haven’t learned one damn thing from what duh-nun-sio had written, still the same ole’ “if I can’t impressem’ with logic, then I’ll bafflem’ with BS”__ in the great words of Queen Victoria,
            “We are not amused”.

          • denniso

            Sorry if you have trouble w/ comprehension, but don’t give up…keep studying and working at it and eventually you’ll get it.

          • angel-wanna-be

            Denniso, when you have something concrete to offer, my comprehension will kick in, I need a chanllenge to operate, Ya know anyone who might provide one?

  • http://gmail i41

    Lib, did your mama get you burbed, after eating your bottle of liberal swamp water, we all are waiting to hear what you live on, welfare, for mental incompetence, or a government check, or mama’s checking account? I see your liberal socialist democrats are still a bunch of racists. If there is more white Chrisatan Presidents, than multicolored , well let s see, USA was settled by white europeans and contructed by, there were tribes of indians wondering around, and dying off half of the groups,in the winter, due to hunger and they didn’t grow or find enough food sources. Thet were alwaysw fighting eash other. They got their ass kicked a few times, when taking on superior forces, because they wouldn’t advance or develop anything new, but they didn’t have to assemalate like the tribes did when beating another tribe. The Cherokee had a form of alphabet and writing. Of course your liberal ancestors wanted no part of making them become part of this great nation. Indian tribes live a form of socialist government group planning, as tribal friends and workers have stated. No individual development,and want government giving and providing them everything to live. Bands couldn’t live too long in one spot, because of disease and no concept of latrine use. Libs always claim they aren’t racists, until another race comes to live into their comfort zone, you dems are the most meanest group of hyopacrits I have ever work around or lived around. All the way from when I was in school. Same goes for blacks, mexicans, and indians. get more than 2 together and they are always talking smack about whites. If you go to colleges, the muslim smucks all put down white women non stop, and yet the boneheaded bimbos buy the BS, from the camel strokers.

    • denniso

      Well, well…see any racism here JeffH????

      • JeffH

        DUH!nisso, why do you all of a sudden need my assurances? What I see is someone far more honest about what he says than you have ever been. Do I agree with everything i41 says? NO! At least he is honest unlike your hateful self.
        In your case, you destroyed your credibility from day 1 of my arrival to this website and you haven’t changed your diatribe one iota since that day.
        I’d like to understand what fuels your hatred and unhappiness? I think you spent too many days on acid, tweeked your brain a bit and now lounge around with a beer belly, drinkin’ cheap liquor, unshaved and unkept, a bit of body odor and just plain blame everybody else for your woes.

        • denniso

          More personal attacks, surprise. And I do have a beer belly though I don’t drink,except orange juice, nor do I smoke anything. My older brain is about as clean and pure as it can be w/ all the grim world news it ingests.

          • JeffH

            …not to mention all the hate bile you spew every day.

          • JeffH

            DUH!DUH!

            bringing in the sheep!
            bringing in the sheep!

  • chuck b

    denniso

    i want you to know right from the mouth of a racist, i am a racist, i prefer my race to all others even tho i have to share my race with some i don’t care for, like white left wing demo’nistas.

    one other thing, i don’t hate people of other color and have enjoyed their friendship all my life so far.

    so if anything i would say you and people like amer lib have no self pride and are wimps to the core.

    • denniso

      So, you are a racist?

      • Jeff

        NO! You are the racist!

        • denniso

          I’m just reading what he wrote…

          • JeffH

            You’re a racist!

    • denniso

      If I cared what you think, those would be fighting words…but, how could I be bothered by the words of an old and feeble no-nothing rightwinger? Can’t…

      • denniso

        My comment is meant for Jeffy,of course…

      • JeffH

        DUH!nisso, You’re a racist! I wish you did care, then I would request you provide a neutral spot where we could “discuss” it!

        • denniso

          How old are you? 80?? 90???

          • JeffH

            DUH!nisso, I thought you had no backbone…I was right, you were wrong! Try it, you might like it!

  • 2336

    My, my, my! Cass Sunstein would be proud of the liberals we have seen posting here!
    For timr, and TDMW, if Obama gets his way and “fundamentally” transforms our nation – you’re not gonna like it, not one bit! In addition to other rights that they’re currently stepping on in an indirect manner they’re getting ready for a full frontal assault on freedom of speech. How you gonna like Obama when the government controls what you can post on the internet?

    • timr

      I’ll ask YOU 2336……….Did you like Bush tapping into your phone calls……..???………….My guess is NO………….

      • angel-wanna-be

        TimR, Wake up kid, the Government can and does, tap phones, check your emails and intercept your bank transactions__you have no privacy at all, and it’s even worse now with Bambi. He’s thin skinned and doesn’t like opposition! __FCC, likes you, your on their side!!__ Read up kid, arm yourself with some facts, then come back, and we might let you play with the big kids.

  • http://google mike b.

    Where were you piece of crap liberals when the Black Panthers were carrying billysticks and intimidating voters in the 2008 election in front of the voting precints in Philadelphia? These thugs were threatning the average american citizens who were trying to do thier patriotic duties of voting. The thugs were bullying voters into voting for the thug Hussein Obama and forcing thier anti-american, radical thug regime down our throats. How come you are so silent on that. The only way you constitution, american bashing liberals can accomplish anything is through the chicago thugery political machine and his minions in the stae-controlled mainstream media. Beware americans the thugs have took over our country led by the biggest thug of all Hussein Obama, who will do anything to force americans to accept his radical, american bashing, constitution-trampling, regime and marxist, communist policies. Hussein Obama will do this by any means possible, including his proposed “private” army, black panthers and bashing law-abiding, average american citizens who are just protesting massive government intrusion and trampling on our consttutional rights. Hussein Obama is just using his Alinski tactics of attacking his accusers of the antics he has in store, case in point the thugery of the black panthers in help electing Hussein Obama. True hate is the pastor of Hussein Obama, rev. wright, who as we know spews his anti-american retoric with such quotes as GD America, not God bless America, and with the tragic deats of nearly 3,000 americans said ” America’s chickens have come home to roost. Ayers, Acorn, Alinski, Wright, Black Panthers, and the ring leader Hussein Obama are all indoctrinated in anti-american hatred. You tell us who poses the most danger to this country now? It is not the Tea Party, who are just standing up for our nation and constitutional rights, or Hussein Obama and his radical thugs.

    • denniso

      I’ll tell you who poses the greatest danger to our country…the people who are threatening violence and fueling violence by their descriptions of their president as a communist and anti Christ and lying that he is not the legitimate president. And those hotheads who are taking guns and assault rifles to protests w/ the idea of intimidating others. And those people who are demonizing humans,whether ‘legal’ or not and contributing to a police state mentality.

      That’s who’s posing a danger to our country.

      • DaveH

        No, the greatest danger to our Country comes from the Liberals who are trying their best to put words in our mouths and incite us. Liberals like Dumniso, and Am Lib.
        The conservatives are too busy working for a living to engage in violence. It is the Liberals who are living on the money of others who have the time to riot and incite violence.

        • rjg

          Easy DaveH

          Do you want me to rattle off another list of liberals who have contributed to society :) Most Liberals like most Conservatives and Libertarians work for a living and are decent people. As a matter of fact while most people were blogging away(both right and left) I was at work.

          • denniso

            Sorry if you think we’re trying to ‘incite you and put words in your mouths’…all I’m trying to do is discuss tough issues and point out the major flaws in your positions and logic…too tough on you? I’ll try to ease up on you guys.

          • DaveH

            Then you might explain to me why, if they are such contributors, they have the need to spend the money of others, and force their way on others?

          • DaveH

            And, Dumniso, Tough on us? Hardly. You rarely say anything of substance. As I have said many times, I welcome your weak, manipulative comments, as I can see no better way to wake people up to what a typical Liberal is all about.

          • rjg

            DaveH
            I’ve tried to be nice but I’m really sick of the rhetoric. Your constant liberal this and liberal that…. Why is it always “ME” “ME” “ME” with you. Why don’t you step away from the computer go outside and take a look around. Your life is not so bad is it?

            I don’t know what you do for a living but in my line of work we use Calculus, Physics, and Trionomety every day! Where do you think this all came from? Do you think that it is any coincidence that the civilizations that investested in science and infrastructure have come the farthest.

            Have you heard of Albert Einstein or Robert Oppenheimer. How about Stephen Hawking? All those Government Engineers at NASA? Do you think life would be better if Issac Newton had toiled in the fields instead of being an intellectual?

            So I guess I’ll turn the question on you and say “Why do you keep taking from these people and showing not an ounce of gratitude”.

            Sure we can argue about the role of Government but in the end Laws and taxes are the adminssion we all must pay to live in a civilized society.

      • Barb

        We are simply calling it as it is! Obama is a dictator not a president and a destroyer not a leader of the people. The only violence at any protests so far since he’s been in office is the Liberal protests against Arizona’s Immigration Law! Not the Tea Parties! One guy carrying a gun does not count as protesters bringing guns to Tea Party rallies, sorry! If you can’t see the truth about Obama then you are part of the problem, and far from any solution! And yes you are the racists and frankly we are getting tired of the same old ploy, it doesn’t work any more, pal!

        • http://personalliberty.com Beronica Bill

          I agree 100%.if this was the Republicians who were in office (and they would have been if they had cheated like the Democrats)and they were pulling the crap that obama and his lapdogs are doing,they would have driven him out of office already, they would be yelling impeach him…I believe obama is afraid of the Tea partyers, he doesn’t want anyone bucking him about anything,he already makes threats saying you don’t agree or you buck me (Obama) he says you will be find and could be arested and trown in jail,he wants to put anyone and everyone in jail who stands up for their rights and their Country,if he takes our guns and our freedom we have nothing..he never should have been able to run for the President of the United states to begain with he isn’t even a Citizen of the United States,the Democrats would have made him prove he was and they would have demanded proof before he could run. He does not concider himself the President of the United states of American, if he did he would do what all of our other presidents have done, PROTECT our Country and do what is best for the Citizens,instead he conciders himself the ruler of the World,he thinks he is God well I tell you he is not God and he will someday stand before the one and only God to be Judged for all his wrong doings. I want to see him removed, his goal is to destory America and so far he is doing a good job,I say stand up and fight and take back our Country NOW.he is a liar and a deceiver and if anyone think that this Obama health Care is a good thing you are as crazy as he is..there is over 2000 pages I heard one of the Christian Broadcast share some of the things that were inreform and they are not good. Do what we know the Democrats would do if the Republicans were in and doing what Obama is doing,Storm the White House and remove him.

          • jsin

            fox news poisoning over here-if you dont agree with his policies thats undrstandable but please come back from faux news land

        • timr

          Barb, as I’ve said to the rest of these idiots……..Obama is smarter than you and your trailer park friends, and THAT scares you…………..but don’t worry, this will all go away if you vote Obama out of office…………..(God help us, if it is that simpleton, idiot, Sarah Palin)………Oh, that’s right, Barb, Palin makes you, look smart, doesn’t she……………

          • Barb

            timr, You see right there you show your true colors! A pure racist! Trailer park friends? I suppose that is intended to be an insult, however I don’t think people who live in trailer parks are all that bad in fact I think they are pretty good hard working Americans. If you think I’m so stupid why do you even bother with me? Could it be because I am right and you can’t stand that, just like you attack JeffH and Angel Wanna Be and all the rest of us savvy, smart, informed, patriots on this blog! And it’s not if we vote his sorry a.. out it is WHEN we vote it out in 2012! Oh yes and you say Osama Obama is intelligent, that is a good one. He can barely put a sentence together without a dozen ahhs in it and he is not running the show, his many puppet masters are. He makes you look intelligent! And you seem pretty brain dead to me!

          • angel-wanna-be

            Barb, I’ve read over most of TimRs posts and they’re all the very thing, he’s accusing the rest of us, he’s nothing more than a race baiter. The one thing I’ve learned about liberals is, as soon as they run out of talking points, they’re screwed. To stay in the game, they revert to name calling and insults. None of their point of view, is something that I haven’t heard before, same ole’ yadda, yadda, yadda.

        • DaveH

          Barb,
          The news story that I read (I think in the Arizona Republic) stated that the gun-toter was an “unidentified man”.
          Can you believe that? He was toting an assault rifle near a Presidential venue and he was “unidentified”?
          Does anybody really believe that this man was a Conservative? Would the news media remain silent about his ID if he was a Conserative?

      • jsin

        the guns thing was pretty bad-just asking for problems i know its legal-so is farting in church

      • angel-wanna-be

        Denniso, you, and those like you are the greatst danger to America! You spew nothing but insults and names calling, you have no facts, no links, and no truth or proof, of us, the opposers of the Obama policies, engaging in any kind of violence!__WHAT’S REALLY SAD IS, YOU’RE A DAMN GOOD LIAR,__You should run for office, rumor has it the Dems are going to lose some seats come Novemeber, they’ll need replacement liars, better bone up on some more tongue waggin’___C’mon, Buddy, we can take it!

        • JeffH

          angel-wanna-be, well said…give em hell!

        • denniso

          I guess I should thank you for the compliment..thanks, and how would you know that I’m not in office already?

          • JeffH

            DUH!nisso. Oh. we all now much more about you than you care to admit!
            In office? Maybe in an ACORN office!

          • angel-wanna-be

            Denniso, Trust me, It wasn’t a compliment. I only compliment those who earn it!

          • angel-wanna-be

            Denniso__if you’ve run for office and in politics, I trust you’ve changed you name, so no one really finds your an idiot!

  • chuck b

    denniso

    truth truth truth!!!! it hurts doesn’t it.

  • DaveH

    “Information becomes a distraction”. Heaven forbid that we have too much information. Obama must put a stop to that distraction. Maybe Cass Sunstein can do it:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfQr_FxHB0M&feature=player_embedded

    • angel-wanna-be

      Dave H, No Cass Sustein can’t do it , he’s too busy working for an Animals right to sue their humans???___RIGHT!?!!___I’ll bet if they hooked him up to check for brain activity, they’d pronounce him brain dead. These crazies are just oozing out of the woodwork!

  • DaveH

    “Right now Eric Holder is arguing in the courts that you have no reasonable right of expectation of privacy in your e mail or privacy of location if you have a cellphone because they can triangulate you. Without a warrant they want to be able to read your e mail.”

    Where are the Liberals who protested loudly about the Patriot Act?

    http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/40456/

    • http://personalliberty.com Beronica Bill

      they already are reading some peoples email,if I would get email that said anything about Obama,Healthcare Reform Prayer for our Country and there was a pitition to sign and I try to forward it to Family and friends it would not be sent..obama made a remark about it to one of the Christian New Stations some broadcasters, his emails were not being sent.(Obama) said he knocked him off line.he hates Fox News you know because,they are the only News Station who tells the truth,Obama tried to shut them up.if you want the truth sign up for the newsletters.Liberty Counsel.com and newsmax.com

      • jsin

        sorry,but fox lies all the time try reading a newspaper-usa today-wall street journal etc. or check out demoracy now for some real news fair and balanced

        • DaveH

          Lies require intent. Do you have any proof that Fox News has intentionally told untruths? And traditionally, USA Today has leaned to the left. But they have reported some non-liberal things lately. Are they changing their ways? Who knows. All we can hope to do is gather as much information as possible, and figure out what makes sense and what doesn’t.
          What makes sense to me is that since Government has assumed immunity to morality (stealing, killing, lying, etc.) and since they have great power at their disposal, they are hands-down the most dangerous organization to our Freedom and Well-Being. Much more so than those evil Big Corporations that the Liberals wring their hands about.

  • chuck b

    denniso

    wrong again, its not them, its people who think like you who are duped by people like barry soetoro. and you don’t understand by allowing the illegal aliens to invade our country is no different than allowing a foreign army to enter, the only difference they are coming in un-armed. and your assumption we are the law breakers when we try to enforce our law. that’s what barry is trying to make you think.
    i will never be able to comprehend the liberal mind, maybe they have lost too much blood from their bleeding hearts and its effecting their thinking.

  • EltonJ

    One question:

    Why are they [timr and denniso] spewing all the hatred? It looks like these people are the ones that are going to blow up and kill their fellow Americans.

    • Jeff

      DUH!Nissa is capable of snapping at anytime. He/she has been totally incoherent for at least a year now! Just repeats the same stuff over and over and over.

      • jsin

        if your talking about the az law it is pretty lame and they arent even going to enforce it in tucson. it would be much easier and effective to go after the employers, but these are the guys with the cash so we dont want to disrupt them. i am from there and i have actually gone to interviews for jobs at places where the parking lot was filled with mex. vehicles,so you know the wages will be poor.lots of these guys get work visas and just commute-8 bucks an hour is pretty good if you live in mexico.Az is a right to work state-very little union presence, wages are low for everybody because of legal and illegal imigration. You cant blame a guy for taking care of his family by whatever means possible, as long as working here is more feasible than working there they will cross, GO AFTER THE EMPLOYERS

        • JeffH

          jsin, Who are you babbling too? What are you babbling about? Yu’re on the wrong site. Adios amigos!

    • timr

      Hey EltonJ………it’s your heros who form Militias……..not mine………..

      • JeffH

        timr

        bringing in the sheep!
        bringing in the sheep!

  • angel-wanna-be

    AS PER FOX NEWS, THE NURSING HOME THAT IMPOSED A POLICY ON IT’S RESIDENTS, OF NO MEAL TIME PRAYER, HAS JUST REVERSED IT’S POLICY, AFTER AND OUT CRY FROM THE MAYOR, TOWN RESIDENTS AND FOX NEWS, THANK YOU GOD, WE WON ONE!!!!

    • jsin

      thats great- freedom of religion-not freedom from religion

      • Jeep

        “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;…” I see where it says we are free to practice any religion we choose, not one established by the govt. Sorry, but I just don’t see where it says freedom FROM religion.

    • Save America Susie

      Angel…That goes along with the 1st Amendment…”Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise there of…”. I think people forget that second part, don’t they? Free expression. That is why they have squashed every effort lately to pray in the name of Jesus. That is not free expression.

      • angel-wanna-be

        Save America Susie, your right!__I’m sick to death of the Liberal Mindset treating Christians as if they have no rights. We live on the East Coast. In our own town, over the years we’ve had and influx of Muslims, Mexicans, Hispanics. I don’t care who they worship or where or even, if they don’t at all, but I’m tired of respecting everyone elses religion and having my own religion which is Christianity, stomped on, as if we’re a bunch of lepers. In town on street corners, We’ve have’had people passing out religious tracs, we repect them, take one and move on!!__ I’m sick of constantly being bombarded by atheists, who cry to remove the Ten Commandments from Federal buildings, the Nativity at Christmas, our Crosses at buriel sites. They need to mind their own damn business!
        If Removing God from everything is a Liberal brand freedom, they can talk ALL they want, as for me and my house, we serve the Lord!
        We cannot serve two masters, it’s each our own choice.

        • denniso

          It’s pretty simple,really…we allow religious diversity in this country and the constitution mandates that all religion is kept out of all gov’t…gov’t cannot promote any religion. That means Christianity and any other…

          • angel-wanna-be

            Denniso, What it means, is government is not allowed to tell it’s people who and what to worship. There is NO state Church. THAT’S THE FREEDOM, we choose!!!__Now, you tell me why, most Government sessions begin the day with prayer!!!!___As per David Barton, Wallbuilders, there were 22 original palm sized Bibles, that were originally given to Congress back in the 1800′s, once they were voted into office. HE HAS AN ORIGINAL!___You libs and your damned revisionist theories, you believe ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING, WITH OUT CHECKING FACTS!!!. Read the original federalist papers, the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence!

        • http://none Jeryl D

          Angel, you and Susie are absolutely correct. It can easily be argued that Christianity is the only religion in America that one can persecute without fear of retribution. However, if Christians, primarily Evangelicals, would wake up and vote their convictions, they could sway every major election. To CS: I agree, we are most likely (no human can say for sure) in the End Times. These things have to happen and it will all go the way God has written. Time to start looking up!

          • angel-wanna-be

            JerlD, Thanks and Your right, we are in the end times and have been for a long time. I’ve read the Bible about 5 times through and just started again. Trust me, I’m still an amature, for everytime I read it, Gods reveals something that I hadn’t seen before. Although I am Christian, I was never and angel, I’ve learned the hard way. This younger Generation believes they have a better way than Gods. Now, The streets are littered with babies having babies, legalized abortion, drugs, the perverse, homosexuality and a powerful Government who only cares about lining there own pockets. We are indeed on a slippery slope, sliding towards hell. We need to get right with our creator.___God Bless

          • denniso

            You should know that almost every generation of Christians for the past 2000 yrs has thought exactly what you think…that the end times
            are here, or back then….don’t you see, that even though things usually look bad aound the world, the world doesn’t seem to end?

            People should be spending the energy they are wasting on the ‘end times’, instead on working to fix the messes we find ourselves in.

    • mark

      Angle, you couldn’t possibly be any dumber, but keep it up, you’re also incredibly funny.

      • angel-wanna-be

        Mark__ apparently your not much smarter, you mis-spelled ANGEL!!!’
        HAVE A GREAT DAY SWEETIE!! :)

  • http://gmail i41

    timr,just what the hell do you want, income limits, have you ever been a CEO of anything, except the sand box, with no workers> If you can, do something constructive in society, besides whine about someone making too much money, CEO’s salary is set by the board of directors, which most directors are the spin the bodle group that does chosing. They serve on each others boards, if you have a problem, don’t shop there or buy there or support the business. In reguard to Wal-Mart I don’t shop there, check out smaller stores, usally they can beat them if you check the quality. Either you liberal dems are too damn lazy to get a tough job or don’t want any more money than what your moma (government idoits) tells you what your allowance will be. That is why unions and socialist dems work like a finger and a nose, when central control sends signals they both feel good together. Why don’t you dems cut the salary of staff and Congress, charge the president for vacations, no else gets free travel at million dollars a pop. Use a puddle jumper for trips, think of the energy and his carbon foot print, just like Goofy Gore and his whining. Dems are the ones who came up with the minium tax, chech out Omoron and Michelles tax returns (if the are honest and not a lie). You and I would be taxed 3 times as much, all our gifts and special goodies would count. housing and food furnished would be taxed, plus add on SS tax with it. So denniso, why don’t you and you numnutted group, go listen to air america or find a liberal democrat blog, sorry they went bankrupt and did the democrat standrad move didn’t pay taxes!!!

    • jsin

      who would protect the super wealthy?, their riches are made using our society and infrastructure which we all pay for, we have a minimum wage how about a maximum wage lets say 5 million, thats plenty for anybody the rest should be taxed or re-invested into the infrastructure of there company. I happen to work for an outfit that seems to invest very little in their infrastructure, so when these 20 million a year ceo’s are all gone the company will be in a shambles,in the 50′s and 60′s the top execs made maybe 30 times more than the janitor, now they make about 300 times more, the middle class is fading, the middle class is what makes up the economy. You can thank your unions for holding together whats left of our fading middle class, thank your unions for a 40 hour work week,child labor laws, safety standards etc- the massey mine was a non union outfit.If the rich paid their fareshare of taxes(and if the government didnt waste so much)the middle class wouldnt be burdened so much. The tea party is supposed to be middle class blue collar right?, well the repubs are far worse to unions than alot of dems even though both parties are pretty bad. righties say “no big government” lefties say “no big business” but really they are one and the same. all this bickering is just a distraction.Does anyone out there think campaign finance reform would not be a good first step, so every candidate would be on an level playing field, so you could vote for somebody based on his or her merits not just on how much money they had to spend on their b.s. message

      • Mick for thought

        My first job paid $1.65 per hour in 1972. Now minimum wage is $7.00 per hour but with inflation and cost of living adjustment this would equal $0.94 per hour in 1972. The poor get poorer for working the same tough jobs and the rich get richer steeling from the poor and middle class. You are correct that the salary some of these executives make is completely outrageous. What is more outrageous and obscene is the industries we bailed out are still paying obscene bonuses for people who failed the do their job. Would you give a bonus to the janitor who cannot mop a floor or fire him?

        • denniso

          Why have I seen no rightwing outrage over the multi million $ bonuses
          paid out by the companies taxpayers saved?? Loyalty to their keepers?

          • Mick for thought

            Unfortunately not only is the right indebted to big money. The left wins their election with money also. Most of that money comes from very rich special interest groups. This is the main reason you will see me coming back to financial reform again and again.

          • denniso

            You’re right, Dems also beg for money too, since it’s mandatory for campaigning…but, at least the Dems are pushing for reform of Wall St. What we really need is public financing of all national elections w/ no private money allowed in campaigns. It’s obviously the only way to cut the cord between big money and the gov’t. But, the Repubs fight all campaign finace reform because they want the money to remain in the political system.

      • Jeep

        Wow…you got all the talking points on class envy and class warfare! Classic! I might have to print a copy of this one, just to reread it when Pelosi takes home her millions, or Obama cashes his checks next year. Yeah, let’s tell a private business how to run things! And, screw freedom…it’s obviously overrated. Govt control of things has worked so well around the world, that we should follow their lead! I mean, really…

        • jsin

          what do you do for a living angry one?

          • Jeep

            As if it really should matter…I am quite well employed. I paid a considerable amount in Fed taxes last year and am really looking forward to paying “my fair share” over the next year. But, those that know me understand that there are few who could match my undying devotion to my country.

            And, if repeating your liberal rants, and poking fun at the absudity of it all makes me angry in your view, then so be it. I have nothing to prove to any liberal goofball around here, or anywhere else. Common sense and conservatism will defeat progressive mind speak and socialism every time.

    • timr

      Hey I41………I never said I wanted limits on CEO pay…….but I DO want to limit their POWER, though……..You people always want to go after Government (which you should), but you don’t want ANY checks on the Crooks on Wall Street……..You were obviously born with a silver-spoon in your mouth……….I really feel sorry for CEO’s……..boo-hoo……..those poor bastards…….I suppose Bernie Madoff is your hero.??????///

    • timr

      You call Obama……..Omoron??……..What does that make Bush……..???…………..Your’e a Joke

      • JeffH

        timr, you’ve already established what you are all about here earlier.
        The mouth is runnin’ but nobody is home.

      • JeffH

        bringing in the sheep!
        bringing in the sheep!
        bringing in the sheep!
        bringing in the sheep!

  • ABinGA

    My guess is, if you want to see a bunch of racists, wait ’till Obama loses in 2012. Some of us will not be surprised but you lefties will be caught off guard.

    • Barb

      ABinGA, You got that right! And it’s gonna be ugly!

  • jerryBB

    I don’t consider mysrlf a racist i just don’t think obama should have been allowed to be a senator. I don’t think he should have been allowed to run for dog catcher much less for the presendency.he by all accounts is not edgible. His goons that he is saddeling us with ts even worse. NO HOMOSEXUAL(penevile) should have any connection with any child until that child until the child is old enough and eduicated to mak their own decison. His WHEEZE kid has said that it would be benefical for a young person to have relations with and older person. TO me this is un forgiveable. THE WHOLE SHEBANG NEEDS TO BE EXCHANGEDFOR SOME THING BETTER. I would vote for Bill Cosby

  • Jana

    timr,

    You aren’t the only one that can get angry, but YOU are the only one here calling racism, YOU are the one using garbage mouth language. YOU are the one who is not willing to have a discussion. It has to by your way and your way only. YOU don’t have to turn a blind eye, because YOU are blind already.

    I guess I don’t have to tell you about anti Americanism because YOU personify it.
    You asked me: and I copied and pasted your own words,

    ………”..What do you want me to do, wave a damn Flag and where Blinders, Jana……….????”
    I want you to act like a decent human being which you haven’t been. I also doubt you even have a flag to wave.

    YOU are a distorter of the truth, and a perverter of the truth. You distorted what I said about Katrina. For your edification I will say again, it was up to the Mayor and the Governor of the State. But YOU want to play the blame game so badly that you are willing to pervert and distort anyones views that you don’t agree with.
    timr, you are pathetic! I feel sorry for you BOY. You act like a BOY.

    You are a normal Socialist who distorts the truth whenever it fits them. Where I come from BOY, we call that telling lies.
    You use the same rhetoric over and over. Some people can at least talk or write without using bad language, but you aren’t one of them. As angel said, YOU NEED TO GROW UP.
    Just because you try to out talk people doesn’t make you right.

    • Jana

      The answer to tima was supposed to go way up at the top. I reposted it up there, so disregard this one.

  • N. J. Stone

    I really want to know just how well the ‘Change is workin’ for the demorats. Let me tell you about our son. He was a cancer patient at age 8, there was no protacol for his rare brain tumor. The doctors told us they were going to throw everything they had at him, either cure him or kill him. So needless to say in the back of our minds we were thinking about a funeral. Well, there was a good outcome, they did cure him, he was the only child in his perticular clinic to survive! Fast forward to the present time; he is now 47 years of age, and heis on disability, after he worked for 15 years, he eventually got to a point where he was unable to walk across a room without falling. The hospital where he was treated said he was experiencing latent after effects of treatment and his growth was stunted. It us 3 years to get him on disability. which is social security and SSI. On Medicare he can now be seen by doctors that are trying to help. His Neuro doctor said his brain was litterly burned up by cobalt, which is no longer used. He is aging faster than healthy individuals his age. I want to let you know that your damn govt. has never given us one damn thing, ever! We don’t have much, but what we have we have worked for since we were both 16 years old. We are both well over 65, and wonder what will happen not only to our health care, but our son when we lose our healthcare, because its coming, and anyone who thinks otherwise is just plain stupid. Try these figures on for size; upwards of 40% of black seniors have Advantage plans, upwards of 60% of Hispanic seniors have Advantage plans, as we do because they pay better than plain medicare, and most have no premiums. Just what do you think is going to happen when they are taken away, and all they have is Oblamma care!! It ought to be a sight to behold! All those who are cronicly ill will be visited by some buracrat sent by the ‘death squad’, well, I’m here to tell you I’m a crack shot and my boss and I are constantly practicing at the range. I intend to defend my turf and family, and I guess they will have to take my gun from my cold dead hand!!!
    P. S. We just found out our son is a type II diabetic also.

    • jsin

      read a newspaper turn off the fox-fox is destroying democracy

    • rjg

      I don’t know much about the US system so of couse I have a few questions.

      Are social security and medicare not government programs in the US? What about this advantage plan you speak of?

      I can assure that there are no death squads in Canada or Europe and there are no death squads coming to the U.S either. You are being lied to for politcal reasons.

      Good luck to you and your family.

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      TO:NJ STONE,I FEEL BAD THAT YOU FOLKS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME,I HOPE THINGS GET BETTER FOR YOUR FAMILY,YOUR PROBLEMS MAKE MINE TOTALY MINISCULE IN COMPARISON,BEST WISHES.VAKSAL.

  • http://lesliebard.blogspot.com Leslie Fish

    Two complaints with your article, Mr. Livingston.

    First, I — like a lot of Tea Partiers — am NOT a Conservative; I’m a Libertarian. Second, I looked up that “disgusting homosexual practice” and found that it was nothing but oral sex.

    Stop thinking in terms of 50 years ago. The political “left” and “right” have both split into two distinct parts: the Libertarian and the Oligarchal. The TP — indeed, the whole new grassroots Reduce Government movement — is Libertarian. You’re still sounding like an old-style “Conservative” Oligarch. Are you really that panicked by oral sex? Do you really want to have some Proper White Church getting government power? Do you really want to stomp everybody who’s not a rich old straight WASP? Wake up and smell the coffee; America left all that crap behind decades past.

    If you want to stay an ally of the Tea Party (and its associated grassroots groups), then drop the “Ultra Conservative” label and attitude and get with the Libertarian ideal — or you’ll be left behind.

    • Allan

      Hard to understand how you get panic about oral sex from Bob’s article.

    • Barb

      Leslie, since you had to “look it up” perhaps you should have read further! #1 It’s oral sex between two male partners, homosexual sex, and to a lot of us that is disgusting. #2 If that is their choice fine and dandy but do not accuse us heterosexual Tea Party members of these disgusting acts, that is the insult and the rub. That is why they use the term Tea Baggers and Obama uses it ALL the time, real classy president you guys have!

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Leslie Fish,

      First, you say you are a Libertarian. I say, “Good for you.” You can join me in my efforts to reduce the size of government to its constitutionally-designed parameters, close down the unconstitutional Federal Reserve and return America to the republic our founders envisioned. On that I’m sure we agree. Panicked by oral sex? Not at all. However, as a Christian I find homosexuality a disgusting practice. As a Libertarian, you should appreciate I have the right feel that way. This in no way implies I believe government should be legislating morality. As a Christian I am insulted that the Left would associate a practice I find disgusting with a movement I endorse. They do it for no other reason than to insult and demean the Tea Party. Obviously the Left has a problem with battling on the field of ideas as, more often than not, they resort to name calling and race baiting.

      Second, I disagree with the idea you posit that the Left and Right have split into two distinct parts. That view is too simplistic. And by the way: judging by the Tea Party members I know and have spoken to (and they are many) I have learned that they come from all over the spectrum. There are some who are far more liberal than am I, and some that are far more libertarian.

      I’m not sure what you mean by your reference to a “Proper White Church,” nor do I understand how you have reached a conclusion from reading my writings that I “really want to stomp everybody who’s not a rich old straight WASP.” There you show your ignorance (lack of knowledge, education or awareness).

      As to the ideals of the Tea Party: I doubt I will be left behind. I have been espousing these same ideas for 40 years (subscribe to The Bob Livingston Letter, http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/) and you can read the archives to see what I mean.

      Finally, you said you had two complaints. What’s the second one?

      All the best,
      Bob

    • Jeep

      I guess Leslie is the arbiter of standards for the TEA Party movement now?

    • http://none Jeryl D

      Leslie, did someone strike a nerve or what? I am somewhat libertarian in my views, yet am a bit to the left (of Genghis Khan, that is). There’s nothing wrong with arch conservatives. That used to be where mainstream America was when I was a child. I’m anti-racism with a passion, but I’m also a white, Evangelical Christian who believes that everyone of every hue should be proud of their particular background. And, I agree with an earlier writer: there’s only one race on earth – the human race. No one should be judged by the amount of melanin in their skin. Livingston hit the nail on the head. Live with it.

  • Allan

    Fellow Conservatives-

    I hope we end debating with the progressives on this site, if only because it’s useless. We’ll always be racist and uneducated in their minds. In truth, it is they who race-bait in order to stimulate the minority vote. I believe that our political energy is better spent working for a campaign, or even running for office. We include common-sense, experienced, hard-working folks who Congress desparately needs more of.

    • JeffH

      Allan, so true.

      • denniso

        Allan…so you’re afraid to have your views challenged? That’s pretty typical of the rightwing, but it doesn’t have to be so. You can work for candidates and still have the guts and time to confront others in political debate, and if people here don’t display racism then they won’t be called on it. Simple. Do you really only want a feel good discussion w/ no debate on the validity of your positions? Are you so sure of your views that no one can say anything at all to make you think about them slightly?

    • mark

      Allen, actually that won’t happen. You see, if there were no progressives or opposition you and your like will boil in your own juices until you turn on each other. It really depends on who your supreme leader is; the Rush followers might find something distasteful coming from the Hannity camp or it might be one of Bob’s failed snake oil schemes, where he may throw a little far right rhetoric in the mix to keep you all happily, back in line and against any form of compassion.

      • JeffH

        Now that was a real open mind statement…yeah! go mark.

        Have you ever heard a hairlip dog bark? mark mark mark!

        • angel-wanna-be

          JEFFH___OMG—-ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!

          • angel-wanna-be

            JEFFH, STILL LMAO____!!!!!___TOOOO FUNNY!!

          • angel-wanna-be

            JEFFH, I’M OUT, GRANDKIDS COMIN’ FOR A VISIT!—HAVE A GREAT NIGHT!

        • mark

          LMAO! that was funny! took me back to childhood. BTW, how many years are you now jeffy boy.

          • JeffH

            mark mark mark, crawled out of the walls for another round.
            I’m young enough to handle you my boy.

            By the way, did you ever find out who shot your paw?

      • rjg

        I thought the snake oil statement was interesting.

        All this being pumped full of fear and what do you know a few clicks later someone has all the answers for only $99.

        • angel-wanna-be

          rjg, yeah $99 and 40 years more experience than you!

  • Right Wing

    Timr, denniso, amliber, kimmie, et al. The expression of opinion in any form does not equal a call to violent action. That is syllogistic logic (where there is smoke, there is fire). You mistakenly believe that conservatives, rightys, or whatever slant you want to use are racist, militant drones…and you would be wrong. I don’t see race playing into the discussions here except when someone like Timr “plays the card”. Such comments insult people of color that are part of the movement to turn toward the constitution in the face of political corruption and unrestrained corporate power. Your attacks do not support a greater focus of preserving OUR freedoms and repaying the debt we owe to those that gave their lives for it. To those brave men and women I defend the constitution with my life as it is called for. Toward what appears to be your misguided direction of relinquishing individual freedoms to a larger more controlling government…I grit my teeth and say NO.

    We the People accept that there are diversities or ALL kinds in a free country but DON’T TREAD ON ME. Don’t push your racism against me when it is disguised as an anti-racist agenda. Don’t push your socialist political ideologies against me when it is disguised as correcting the political mistakes in the history of the Republic of America. Do not take advantage my earned income through corporate greed that is unchecked or too large to question. Don’t take my tax money to give to someone who is able, but unwilling to work. Do not allow the government to act as a power that rules the people…it was intended to operate by and for the people. These are the concerns Americans share. You cannot isolate US into one group. We are not black or white, women or men, haters or lovers; we are all of these. We are Americans. We are responsible for the debt of freedom and we see freedom slipping away.

    The goading posts (like yours) are deliberate attacks on “the group” of reform minded Americans. You, the mainstream media, ex-presidents, the current president, etc. have tried to incite the group into violence because then you can draw the focused ire of the entitled masses that support your agendas. The louder you scream the clearer we see your fear. Whether you like it or not, this is a war, a fight, a battle…these evoke images of ultimate struggle and metaphorical brandishing of arms and bloodshed.

    You need to realize that you, the media, the president…cannot stop Americans that are focused on reclaiming the intended constitutional direction of this country. We the People wrested it from the hands of a monarchical tyranny by debt to the lives of those that fought for it. Fortunately, they left us with a more civil means to do the same…THE VOTE. So when you see language here or elsewhere that you wish to interpret as inflammatory, racist, violent…go ahead and lose sleep over it. WE The People are awakening and in November…prepare for battle, load your guns, aim at the target, and VOTE.

    • denniso

      We don’t lose sleep over the violent languague of most on the right…we know that it’s mostly blowing smoke and that when one or two of your violent buddies goes too far, the police usually deal w/ them. But, if you don’t think there is a connection between inflammatory words and the occasional assassination in the history of our country, then you’re obviously naive or don’t care that presidents and civil rights leaders do get killed…

      • http://none Jeryl D

        I’ve been around long enough to have seen many riots, acts of terrorism (domestic and otherwise), violent outbreaks at demonstrations, etc. What’s amazing is that the vast majority of the violence is perpetrated by leftists, not conservatives. People like you like to call conservatives “Nazis.” That’s interesting because the Nazis were extreme leftists, not conservatives. The Nazis were, officially, the National Socialist Party. The vast majority of violence in American politics comes at the hands of leftists, union advocates, et al.

        • denniso

          The Nazis were not even close to being leftwing,rather extreme rightwing, which is why some of the rightwing in our country actually
          supported Hitler before the war. He was the counter balance to the socialist movement sweeping the world during the Great Depression.

          And, it’s clearly wrong to say that ‘the vast majority of violence comes from the left’…just look at the assassinations in our country
          going back to Lincoln,who was killed by pro slavery forces. Most, not all, of our assassinations are committed by extremist on the right.
          The lesson should be to avoid extremism, a lot of which is currently
          being fomented.

      • JeffH

        You thought process is oh so limited by the matchbox size of your brain. To live in such fear of your fellow man is to not live at all!

      • Right Wing

        denniso…again you would be wrong. If you believe inflammatory rhetoric always leads to violence then you are also pushing for violence. You do nothing on this site but throw slants and childish remarks. You and your kind NEED a violent action to occur to justify your complete disdain for anything conservative and right. Because we have free speech and the power of the vote we do not need violence. We can express our opinions openly. Town criers like yourself only cast stones when you have no power or control over free speech and your kind will be the first to riot when you don’t get your way. It looks as though you are afraid of violence and truly believe the rightys are out to get you? We aren’t out to get you…we just don’t want you goose stepping around our country.

        • denniso

          Your comment is a bit convoluted…but, goose steppers are usually extreme rightwing.

          • JeffH

            Obama led the choir at Rev Wright’s church, often longing for the flock to follow the herder.

            Sowing in the morning, sowing seeds of kindness,
            Sowing in the noontide and the dewy eve;
            Waiting for the harvest, and the time of reaping,
            We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the sheep.

            Bringing in the sheep, bringing in the sheep,
            We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the sheep;
            Bringing in the sheep, bringing in the sheep,
            We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the sheep.

  • Neil

    Hey timr:
    You must be a eunuch then. Ay !

  • DaveH

    From the Huffington Post:
    “Food prices jumped by 2.4 percent in March, the most since January 1984. Vegetable prices soared by more than 49 percent, the most in 15 years. A cold snap wiped out much of Florida’s tomato and other vegetable crops at the beginning of this year.”
    “a cold snap”? I thought we were having Global Warming?
    Another notable thing is the fact that we get a large portion of our fruits and vegetables during the winter from Mexico, Chile, and other South American countries. Isn’t it convenient that the media puts in that blurb about the cold snap in Florida? How many of our fruits and vegetables come from Florida in the wintertime?
    I point this out because I heard the same kind of crap during the Carter years as food prices started spiraling upward. It was always somebody else’s fault not the Government. But the Government (through the Federal Reserve) is responsible for the creation of our money supply. It is the excess money creation that drives price inflation.
    Keep this in mind as inflation starts rearing its ugly head in the coming months.

    • angel-wanna-be

      Dave H, Good post!___Global warming my azz, but I do have to give Al Gore credit though, he did find away to fund his future with Global warming, he’ll never have to worry about where his next meal coming from, he made his money based on lies
      Inflation?__I grow my own veggies___but Gas prices keep going up here too now, last I saw $2.95 a gallon. I guess I’ll start driving my Deere!____lol

  • Ed Weirdness

    I support the Tea Party movement, both physically and financially. I am troubled though by the recent hubris of self-appointed leaders of our movement. I say self-appointed, because I don’t recall voting for anyone to lead the Tea Party(s), nor did I think that a national convention in Tennessee (poorly attended) was reflective of how the majority in our movement feel things should go. Indeed, I’m disturbed that these ‘so-called’ party leaders are behaving little different than the leadership of the Democratic and Republican Party’s. Just this morning, I’ve been deluged by e-mails from erstwhile ‘party leaders’ and ‘spokes people’ all declaring that the ‘Tea Party’ was solely responsible for Senator Bob Bennetts primary defeat”. Doubtless the party may have played a significant role, but the people of Utah played a much larger role acting through their representatives. Utah Tea Party members deserve some credit, but nationally, Tea party members probably had very little to do with the Bennett defeat. More importantly, this hubris is petty and misplaced, as there are numerous RINO Senators (John McCain) who will be a much better test of our movement. Further, we must not lose our focus. First and foremost, our objective has to be removing Democrats as the controlling majority in Congress. It’s one thing to thump our chest and yell ‘fear me’ at Republican incumbents, and another thing entirely to win a Congressional majority. Being able to thump an incumbent we don’t like may be invigorating from an ‘I’ll show you’ standpoint, but it’s of little pragmatic benefit if doing so allows Democrats to attain or retain even one seat! The mid-term elections should focus on handing Congressional Democrats and the Obama administration an historic, unmistakable, monumental, abysmal defeat. A complete undeniable repudiation of their policies and agenda. In doing so, we demonstrate that the will of America’s citizens will be the guidance for our governance going forward. Certainly it galls some of us that we may have to accept that some RINO incumbents will be returned to office. However; RINO’s, just like their Democrat counterparts will likewise be observant that America’s citizens have had enough. We’ll send the message that never again will we allow partisan interests to captivate power, usurp our will or undermine our interests. The mid-term elections are vital to our democracy. The primary elections that are winding down as I write this, are the exact spot where we, the voters, have any say in who gets to run to represent us. After the remaining primaries, we have got to focus on stopping a Congress and an administration that disregards our views, values and interests. We cannot allow a ‘get even’ mentality to color our judgment, and yes; we may have to hold our collective noses, and elect the ‘lesser of two evils’. Sure voting the ‘lesser of two evils’ is still a vote for evil, but; if you recognize that it’s also a vote for ‘less evil’, and if you accept this challenge as part of our movements long term ‘overall evil reduction strategy’, we can stop the very real threat that Congressional Democrats and the Obama administration represent. Beside, we’ve got more elections coming up in two years, and if we vote for ‘less evil’ again, and again, and again, after that, eventually, we will eradicate evil as a concern in our government.

    • Jeep

      Well, thought out post Ed. I think that too many are thinking of the “big win” in November. What we all have to remember is that this is a war, and November is just a battle. There will be setbacks and bumps along the way. But, it could all come apart if we don’t acheive the “slash and burn” victory many seem to be counting on. I propose that stopping the jugernaught is only step one. From there it will be a matter of purging the RHINOS and regaining some credibility. Eventually, I would like to see a conservative/libertarian third party that is competitive in a real way. But, I fear many are taking the eye off the prize and will be suprized when the progressive liberals are not soundly trounced in the fall.

    • http://none Jeryl D

      In any movement without a specific leader, two things tend to happen. First, natural leaders begin to rise to the forefront and do what they’re gifted to do: lead. On the other hand, opportunists also start taking the lead, where they can, so they can use the movement for their own benefit. It’s up to us, as individuals, to have the discernment to tell the difference. But, either way, movements need leaders to become all they can for the cause of social change. I hope the Tea Party Movement remains loose and remains a true grassroots movement of We the People. You seem to have a lot of discernment: use it.

    • JeffH

      Ed, well said and well thought out. These primaries and ultimately the Nov elections are just the first of many hurdles we Americans must cross. The bleeding must be stopped before the wounds can start healing. As you well know, many people are still confused about the Tea Party movement and what they represent. Political tags, affiliation with the GOP, political cling-ons, funded by the right and all of the rhetoric from the left to discredit the Tea Party.
      I think it is great that the movement doesn’t have a “national leader” because each participant has the opportunity to communicate and speak with their own people in their own communities, compare noted, ideas and ultimately candidates and move forward without a party affiliation. I just wish those that don’t understand would make an effort to attend a local gathering of Tea Partiers and discover who and what they’re about for themselves.

  • Ed Weirdness

    If we’re the ‘tea baggers’, then by extension wouldn’t that make Liberals the ‘tea baggee’? Nancy Pelosi as tea baggee, Yikes! There’s a visual I won’t soon forget!

    • mark

      Ed, you are pretty damn weird, but other than that, you simply don’t make any sense. But you keep jabbin away weird one.

      • JeffH

        You’ve certainly made your “mark” on these pages.

  • http://google mike b.

    angel wanna be you are doing a great job of battling these ill-advised, racist liberals. Thank God for your effort you a true american. The rest of conversatives are too busy trying to hold on to our jobs before Hussein Obama gives them to illegals or terriosts. Were trying to support our families while we still can and before Hussein Obama and his thug regime takes everything and every right we ever had and leaves nothing but massive debts for our kids and grandkids. Fox News just tells it like it is and that why they have more viewers than msnbc, cnn and headline news combined. They tell the truth without a liberal slant like new used to be and was intended to be. Fox uses thruth and facts and liberals base nothing in truths and facts only in race-baiting and childish emotional name-calling. To liberals the truth hurts that why they and Hussein Obama and his thug administration do not like Fox News as in any dictatorship they despise anyone who rejects thier marxist, communist agenda and is why they embrace the state-controlled mainstream media. Hussein Obama is all-out pure thug and so is his minions in the democrat-controlled, juvinile, criminal congress. We need to vote these constitution tramplers out in nov. and # 1 thug Hussein Obama out in 2012. We need to do this for the sake of our kids and grandkids so they may have some sort of glimmer of hope for a future in this once great nation. God bless america now before it is too late which it almost is with this dictator Hussein Obama in office and Pray we somehow make it pass his rule and tyranny until this thug and we can breathe easier again.

    • jsin

      real news over here-http://www.democracynow.org/

      • denniso

        What a long winded and delusional rant…and all wrong.

  • http://yahoo CHRIS T

    mike b is right thugs thats all the democrats are and all the liberals on this page go angel wanna be

  • Michael Knight

    Bob , I read most of the comments posted & there are a lot of people who don’t know enough history to be able to see what is really going on. So commenting on your excellent work is mostly a waste of time except to say thank for being a sentry and sounding the alarm.

  • wayne

    timr says:
    May 10, 2010 at 9:28 am
    Amen Denniso…….Could you imagine if a group of Black citizens were carrying guns with them, outside of a school where Bush or any white President was…..???….There would have been arrests big time…but it’s okay now, since we have a Black President……..

    Look at these militia groups, and the organizations that are asking for their Country back, and their Liberty back………WE KNOW what they are talking about…..and it’s all about not having a White Male as President………..These people are looking just like Timothy McVeigh……the same rhetoric…….and THAT should concern the American people……….This Country is looking Stupid, because a bunch of hate mongering, red-necks, what to take over this Country……..Message to the Confederacy……YOU LOST………..

    Look at this morons statement… Hate mongering? Redneck? I think not.

    It’s people like you who have rolled over to many times & allowed our country to go down the slippery slope & path that it is on now. It “un informed” morons like you that only ask “what’s in it for me” WIFM. You are probally an uneducated, unemployed person who is afraid that his free lunch / free ride is about to come to an end.

    You probally voted democrat your whole life, worked for the other guy (when you were willing to work)took advantage of every free ride America had to offer & now you are worried about having to work for a living & pay taxes.

    Boo Boo ignorant one

  • Andy

    No Mr. you don’t need to explain any of you’re back ground it would just be an other great big lie anyway. Besides it’s about time the American people stop listening to even one word of it.

    Andy

  • Quinn

    Somewhere in the declaration of independence, or the constitution, Americans are cautioned against the blight of tyranical government, and should one come into being, that it is your duty to take up arms against it. How prescient that the founding fathers of American would include that statement, given the times in which you now live. The American Constitution is taking a beating, as are you rights and liberties, and they need to be defended. If you do nothing, you will have nothing in the end. Your dollar is constantly in decline due to inflation orchestrated by the Fed, which, constitutionally, should not even exist. Yet it does, to the detriment of every citizen in the US. Yet you do nothing to stop it. Your country is under seige from elements that do not care about the freedom that the constitution provides you. They seek to circumvent it through nefarious means and they are succeeding admirably. It is amazing at how easiliy the greatest achievement of men is being so easily and steadily eroded from within. Liberalism, and its promoters is a cancer that is eating away the substance of your once great country. Take it back, or lose it forever. And don’t trust anyone who takes money from corporations, period.

  • http://beltleash.com Joseph R Carreiro Sr

    I feel sorry for most of the people that voted Democratic in the Presidential election. The reason they did is that they lacked the Internet in their lives and were not informed on what was going to take place when the election was over if the Democrats won and they did. Now that they can see the actual dilemma the country is in they have a great chance in November to rectify the problem by treating their vote as sacred and voting out the problem makers.These are not just problems occurring they are disasters.We cannot keep going down this current road and survive. Do we want this Nation to be free as it once was or be a country we don’t even recognize.

    • denniso

      Are you really this ignorant of the facts? All of the mess we find ourselves in began before Obama was even elected…the unpaid for wars,the economic collapse,the busted budget…all of it in Cheny/ Bush’s reign. Come on guy, open your partisan eyes, for the sake of our country.

      • JeffH

        Going forth with weeping, sowing for the Master,
        Though the loss sustained our spirit often grieves;
        When our weeping’s over, He will bid us welcome,
        We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the sheep.

        Bringing in the sheep, bringing in the sheep,
        We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the sheep;
        Bringing in the sheep, bringing in the sheep,
        We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the sheep.

    • rjg

      Hi Joeseph

      Do you have actual stats that would indicate that the Democratic voters had less access to the internet?

      • JeffH

        rjg, oh what webs the liberals spin. Joseph says: Democrats “lacked the Internet in their lives”. Joseph said nothing about access!

        I’m quite sure you can figure it out from here. Glad I could clarify that for you. Your welcome, thank you.

        Nice try though!

  • Henry Ledbetter

    Without honesty and integrity which we seem to have turned away from, no nation can prosper. I am old enough to remember that a man’s word was his bond. “Rightiousness exalts a nation but sin is a reproach to any people.” “Blest is the nation whose God is the Lord.” It seems to me that we put God out and He has finally said; OK, let me see how you do without My blessings.

  • John

    I fail to understand why any of us, (yes, I included myself) would even begin to try and reason with timr. He is totally blinded by hate and a sense of entitlement. He scolds all of you for being hateful and racist and yet he injects it in his every post. No common sense is ever evident in his debate (if you can call it that), typical of those who voted the community organizer in and view positive change as the socialistic path we are on.

    He moans about Halliburton but fails to understand or admit that Obama’s administration just gave another no bid to them. He talks of Bush’s ”
    lies”, yet they are the same “lies” democrats proclaimed before Bush came into office. He rails against “Wall Street” crooks, yet he omits the fact that it was the Democrats who gave them a pass and blocked reform when it was attempted in 2004 with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The same Democrats who are themselves in bed with the Goldman Sachs and like. He no doubt moans about losing jobs overseas yet he would be the first to want to yet higher tax corporations and then wonder why they left. Who is really to blame? Or does he really want that answer? And he dares all to walk in the “poor peoples” shoes before they can wave a flag. Please… I admire his humanity but the self righteous attitude is a bit hard to swallow given the glimpse of his views. I served in Vietnam and never relied on an entitlement, I believe we are on a disastrous course with spending. I want to take our country back, back to what made it great, not see it slide into another Greece or worse. He cannot understand a conservative view, that is fine. I cannot understand a liberal viewpoint, but I can reason and debate rather than resort to insult. And yet to him I am a “hater” a “racist” and a “redneck”. His viewpoint and the people who share them will never understand so why waste our time? Just vote them out in November and end this “change”……..

  • http://www.archivale.com/weblog/ Marc de Piolenc

    What is most hopeful about the Tea Party is its diversity. The aptly-named “occult technology of power” rests on one simple tactic: divide and rule. If you can get people to distrust one another, you can do almost anything you like. Few people have the courage to act alone, and fewer still the skill and discipline to do it effectively. Those in power are safe as long as we are divided. But now here comes a bunch of people who don’t identify themselves as black, white, Catholic, Hindu, blue collar, white collar, but instead call themselves and each other Americans. It would be impossible to overestimate the danger that such a movement poses to the current power structure. As Patrick Henry put it, in his famous “liberty or death” address to the Virginia Convention: “Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us.” Then as now, the threat to the “enemy” to whom Henry refers is not armed resistance, though of course that is what the enemy, then and now, has claimed. Today as in 1775, our militias are not capable of fighting a pitched battle against disciplined regular military units. What they fear today, and feared then most of all, is disobedience. There are not enough jails to hold us all, not enough goons to guard us, not enough bureaucrats to station one in every one of our homes, clubs and businesses to ensure that Their will is done, if we simply say NO. They know, and They fear.

    • denniso

      Your militias?? And just who are they? Are they the tea party gun waving mob? Or the militias hid out in the mountains and deserts waiting for the signal?

      You’re right that your ‘militias’ are not up to the task of armed insurrection…they would be mowed down by the real militia.

      • JeffH

        BOO!

  • Jim H.

    Denniso, A militia by definition is a citizen army. no war is started yet so no militia has been formed. I still have hope for elections to solve our differences, if not we really don’t know how many will participate in an insurrection. You also assume that the military units would stay loyal to the current administration. The militia may get some unexpected help.

  • JPW-

    I could probably become a teaparty member except for a few things like I do’nt make $250,000.00 so now I’m actually paying less in taxes now than when Bush was in office I realize the movement is in reality a millionaires movement to keep the tax cuts of the rich in place.When it comes to gun laws we now have more gun rights than when Bush was in office.We can carry them in national parks and even go into Starbucks if we want.Sure i’m for gun rights and free speech but teapartiers seem to have a need or perhaps a fear that they have to or even want to carry a gun in Starbucks.There is a time and place for most things and carrying guns to public meetings and using profaniity around women & children is not my cup of TEA.I believe 80% of the people of the tea party movement do’nt even realize it’ hidden agenda.

    • JeffH

      JPW-You can’t prove one accusation or observation you have just put your liberal spin on…lies and deception…BUSTED AGAIN!

      At least your agenda is out in the open.

      • JeffH

        JPW-don’t ever show any of your comments to your friends or family…they just might not excuse you blatant ignorance of the issue.

  • http://personalliberty.com John Otradovec

    Bloomberg is an idiot;He presides over a city that is apart of a state that is bankrurpt. He tells the criminals in Arizona to come to new york city so we can protect you and give you free healthcare. Then he is upset that the attempted city bomber was’nt a wacky white guy but a home grown Muslum.Hopefully the next wave of Muslum bombers will get to Bloomberg before they get to us. They have hidden that Muslim away that killed the 13 and wounded 39 at Ft. Hood; we are all doomed

  • JPW-

    Jeffh All have to do is look to see how many multimollionaires are backing the tea party movement from Beck ,Limbaugh, Armey,Palin and several people on this site.They are not looking out for the person making under $250000.As far as taxes Ijust had to compare the taxes paid on earnings over the last few years simple math.If you were a gun owner you would realize the additional rights President Obama signed into law.So okay blow some more smoke and feed your lies all people are not stupid and they are beginning to catch on to reality.So sit back sip on your $18 dollar a pound coffee and dream up some more falsehoods.

    • JeffH

      JPW-Proove it big mouth…what you see is power of the people…run scared little man…you cannot provide one shred of viable evidence because there is none to be had. Jealousy has ruined many a man and woman! If you knew just a tiny bit about the Tea Party movement you might understand, but all you do is listen to Madcow and Oberego and your Messiah and Co. talk the same crap you’ve parroted here every time you post.
      You might want to use a good mouthwash to clear that crap smell from your mouth, with all the bullsh-t drivel you launch out of it.

      You got nothin…nothin…!!!You’re going down…and down hard!
      Next time remember to bring the right weapon not the left one.

      • JeffH

        I’ll throw a couple more rocks at you…great support isn’t always in the form of dineros compadre…moral support goes a very long way and all of the negative, deceptive lies perpetrated by the left are backfiring because of the Limbaughs, Becks, Palins, Hannitys, Armeys that give their airtime to expose the evil left and administration’s lies and deciet. It’s all blowing up in your faces…and for very good reasons…Good always ends up winning over Evil.

        The gun issue, you’re dumber than even I realized. You can even check and see that Obama has a 100% voting record in support of anti-gun legislation. That my surprised lefty is pure unadulterated fact!
        Get ready for a complete takeover by conservative America. Starting in a state near you in 2010. Better get used to it…mouth!

    • JeffH

      While I’m on a roll, you better go back to school little man…this is the big leagues now, where men are men and the ladies are pretty and tough too.
      Don’t ever bring a spoon(from your trough) to a gunfight!

  • JPW-

    Jeffy Jeffy Jeffy all this name calling and hate filled blabber settle down.You sure take it hard when your lies become exposed I would suggest Three tylenol a good nights rest get up in the morning and see it my way and you will be so much happier.Smile//

    • JeffH

      JPW-name calling…little man, big mouth, mouth and liberal…wow…hate…not even close, not a part of who I am.
      The actual fact of the matter is that you are speechless and can’t support your liberal spin.
      Thustly, you cannot prove your accusations and as liberals usually do, you will slink on out of here with your tail between your legs licking your wounds.

  • JPW-

    Jeff; You are a man of wisdom at times and I do agree with you 100% at times like when you say things like;”Good always ends up winning over Evil”.That is why we have Mr. Obama as our president.Even Sarah Palin believes it is God’s will who is chosen as president not the voters.When someone mentions Bush’s evil deeds in the past it is a reminder not to repeat history that causes so much suffering.That is why it is so important to know your bad history so as not to repeat it.Sounds to me like you have little man syndrome.I bet your about 5ft 2 135pounds and drive a corvette.You know the car to make you look macho.

    • JeffH

      JPW-nope…I’m 4’11″, 112# and drive a Ferarri Maranello…red, have a class III firearms license with a gun vault full of fully automatic weapons buried deep in the basement of my 6200sf compound on my 2300 acre ranch in Oklahoma. My other car is a 66 chevy pick-up, immaculate, with the easy rider rifle rack and a pump shotgun in the rear window. I do like the freedom of open carry with my 44 magnum, especially when I visit all of my friends at Starbucks Nice try though.

  • JPW-

    Hmmm must be a differant Jeffh, last week you lived near San Fran. or are you just tryimg to fool me. Gotcha you Betcha.The only part I may truly believe is the Ferrari.When I was in San Fran I did’nt see to many rednecks as I’m sure I more closely fit the bill than you.

  • JPW-

    Jeffh One of the easiest things to also verify is you do’nt have any friends at Starbucks to visit with your guns.You are here on this site twenty four hours a day seven days a week.This is your only life.So sad.

    • JeffH

      JPW-all you do is whine…that clearly verifies who you are…a whiney sniveler…you never have provided one ounce of proof to support your original comments about who and what the Tea Parties are.
      Change the subject all you want, it just doesn’t hide you from the fact that you don’t have any facts.

  • JPW-

    Jeff;Do’nt have time to list all the misinformation you give out but here is one for now. Dick Armey is considered to be a tea party leader.He makes $750000 a year as a lobbyist and heads up a group called Freedomworks.The sad part is Freedomworks is for amnesty for illegals.I do’nt think too many people support that idea but he is your hero.I do know the real story is the amount of money he makes is over $250000 and does not want the tax exemption to expire which is the real goal behind the leaders of the tea party.That’s why I called it the Millionaire party.All this birther chanting and saying I want my rights back and do’nt take my guns is all smoke to cover the leaders true agenda.I believe people are going to have to think a little more independent than follow this group.All true and easily verifiable.Very busy day today gotta go.BYE

    • JeffH

      JPW-total babble…do you know the differance between the Tea Party Express and the independent Tea Parties around the nation? You think the Tea Party people are all high dollar people? Dick Armey isn’t a Tea Party leader and never was and FreedomWorks http://www.freedomworks.org/about/chairman-dick-armey has no connection to the Tea Party movement. You’ve confused yourself and still have not produced one verififiable fact. There IS a huge gap between your concieved perseption and the real facts…do your homework and come back when you have something concrete…remember, if you can’t do the job right then don’t do it at all.

    • JeffH

      JPW-all I ask is that you provide the verifiable information as you say, “All true and easily verifiable.” I provide links, why can’t you? That’s all I’m asking…proof!

  • JPW-

    Jeffh; The link you provided above if you read it including the sidebar information you will realize how right I am. I wondered about the section where the president of FREEDOM WORKS said we educated thousands.I guess when these people signed on they did’nt have a mind of their own.Probably they were brainwashed like Mitt Romney’s daddy George.The smoke is starting to clear and tea party activity and membership is on the decline.You can only fool some of the people some of the time but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.Thank you so much for the link.Have a good day

    • JeffH

      JPW-you just keep grasping at straws and come up empty! There is nothing, nada that indicates any monetary contributions to the Tea Party. Reporting about and showing support of the Tea Party successes is far removed from financing them or “leading” them.
      I’m afraid you’ve been fooled once agin.

      Like I’ve said before…don’t bring a spoon to a gun fight, otherwise you just end up eating your words.

      An FYI so yu can understand, the Tea Party movement didn’t start until 2008…FreedomWorks started in 2003…and has no connections to the Tea Party movement.

      • JeffH

        Just so I understand, the MSM and the “left” have attached Armery/FreedomWorks to the Tea Party.

  • JPW-

    Jeff;Sure I know the differance between the Tea Party and Tea Party Express.The tea party is funded by millionaires trying to fool average Americans that they are working on their behalf.The Tea Party Express is a couple of buses one filled with Millionaire marchers,and sign holder, the other is filled with baloney sandwiches to feed the participants with the smoke filled eyes.

    • JeffH

      JPW-Once a fool always a fool. I’m finished with this post, I’ve made my case and all you’ve done is the usual liberal “chatter” without one substantiated fact, link or otherwise, not one.

      See ya wouldn’t want to be ya.

  • John Doe

    What was your “conservative” position when the Bush Fascists were destroying America????

    • Jim H.

      Bush destroyed America? Wow, I missed it.

      • JeffH

        Isn’t John Doe in a cold box somewhere with an anonymous tag tied to his toe…seems a little cold don’t ya think?

  • dick tracy

    I sign up to this page to use it in one of my school papers. I just cannot believe that so many people congregate in such a place to discuss such ridiculous topics.
    Obama is not a US. Citizen: We must have the dumbest government intelligence in the world to let an immigrant runt get to office.
    Obama is a Muslim: freedom of religion is not accepted in the US.
    Obama will take over your money an your life: I like health-care companies charging me $200 a month for just being able to carry a card with their label on it, its a privileged.

    Let’s vote for a Republicans who spend millions of dollars discussing these important arguments which are so necessary for the american way to continue.

    No wonder that everyone looks at republicans as if they were crazy people. You kind of ARE! I agree with the some subjects, but I don’t think there are any Republicans smart enough to put together an argument without sounding like a hateful moron.
    Republican = Appeal uneducated Americans and old folks who live in fear of a black person moving into their neighborhood. sad…

    • Jim H.

      Working on the school paper? That will be good experience for when you GROW UP. With all of your 17 to 18 years experience, I don’t know if this 52 year old will ever catch up. I can tell by your comments that you didn’t closely read the comments, or you wouldn’t have the view of us that you do. I’ll bet your editor works hard to correct your work.

  • Robert

    when they fear law abiding citizens you know that dictators are in the wing trying to forment terror so they have an excuse to declare marahall law and institute a dictatorship as did Hitler.

  • http://ri7044@gmail.com Robert Ingram

    At this point you should be convinced there are no intelligent liberals.

  • Dan

    There are probably even some Democrats in the Tea Party. I wonder how they like to be called terrorists? The current government is only getting more people mad by their tactics. Don’t they realize that they are the ones strengthening the tea parties as they open more eyes to their tactics?

  • alphie223

    HAVING LIVED OVER 6 YEARS UNDER NAZI AND SOVIET OPRESSION, I CAN ASSURE YOU AMERICANS THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FASCIMS, COMMUNISM,MARXISM,ETC. UNDER THOSE REGIMES, YOU WOULD BE DEAD OR IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP FOR UTTERING THE SLIGHTEST CRITISISM OF THE GOVERNMENT OR PARTY IN POWER. MY FATHER WAS KILLED BY THE NAZIS FOR NO REASON AT ALL, WITHOUT DUE PROCESS, AND SO WERE MILLIONS OF OTHERS. YOU WOULD NOT HAVE THE 1ST AND 2ND AMMENDMENTS. POSSESION OF FIREARMS WAS A CAPITAL OFFENCE AND THERE WERE NO ELECTIONS. THE NAZIS AND SOVIETS KILLED HUNDREDS OF THEIR OWN HIGH RANKING GENERALS FOR THE SLIGHTEST SHOW OF OPPOSITION TO THEIR DICTATOR LEADERS INCLUDING THE FAMOUS DESERT FOX, FIELD MARSHAL ERWIN ROMMEL. YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT OBAMA ARE RACIST BECAUSE HE IS BLACK. BUSH CAUSED MUCH MORE FINACIAL DAMAGE BY WAGING AN UNNECERARY WAR. HE ALSO TAMPERED WITH YOUR CIVIL RIGHTS AND ALLOWED TORTURE OF PRISONERS. WAKE UP

  • Sherron

    alphine223 I am sorry for your loss (the death of your father) and you are right, we sometimes forget about all that is right and good in America and how peopel in other countries do not have the freedoms that many of us take for granted…thanks for the reminder!

  • Kurier Radek

    Dear alphie223,

    George Bush is no longer POTUS…how long will the liberal, mindless “blame game” continue?

    I’m wide awake and breathing in the free air of America! Unfortunately, and quite unbelievably based on your so-called history living under the oppression of totalitarian governments, it is YOU who does NOT understand the nature of the beast!!! I find it quite incredible your illogical, steroscopic view of reality. True patriots, those freedom-loving Americans who understand the intimate details of America’s foundational, absolute truths realized what is becoming of a once great nation….the grotesque, ill affects of the liberal disease. A cancer eating at the heart of what America is supposed to represent.

    America is rapidly losing its liberty because too many “Americans” (including America’s political leaders) have little understanding of how vital our Constitution is to liberty and prosperity. I attribute much of this to the extent that most of academia and “higher” learning institutions teach the American heritage, they more often than not denigrate it as “racist, sexists, or homophobic.” In contrast, the true patriots of today uphold and defend the principles of liberty on which America was founded. This is what the Tea Party movement is all about; regular citizens standing up for the rule of law.

    The United States of America is, indeed, a unique and special place. You cannot in good conscience honestly say that the leadership structure in place today is defending the very principles which made America become the greatest nation of opportunity and prosperity the history of the world has ever known. Progressives, the radical leftist, Marxist and the disease of liberalism have been eating away like an aggressive cancer at the heart of America’s absolute truths. They treat the U.S. Constitution, coupled with the philosophy behind it (as stated in the Declaration of Independence), with disdain and contempt. They are radical Marxist revolutionaries hell-bent on “fundamentally transforming” America into a Euro-style socialist welfare state all in the name of power, command, and control OVER the people. This is NOT what America is about! The foundation upon which the United State was formed, (Constitutional Representative Republic “Rule of Law” & the Declaration of Independence), quickly emerged the U.S. as a beacon of liberty and prosperity for the world…”a shining city on a hill.”

    We now have a White House and a Congress that reject the principles of limited government set forth in America’s Declaration of Independence and that animate our Constitution. In fact, they are SHREDDING our core foundational precepts striking at the heart of our liberties. They want ultimate control. The Obama Administration and Congress have little appreciation for the principles of limited government that made America successful. I have a funny feeling that WE THE PEOPLE will triumph in the end. Freedom is too precious a thing to let tyrannical despotism infect our rights as citizens. The governed bestow power to our elected officials at all levels. The power comes from the people. They continue to mock, belittle, and make disparaging remarks about the VOICE OF THE PEOPLE at their own peril. The 2nd Revolution has begun. Which side will you be on?

  • skipfoss

    If the nation does not wake up what the Nazi’s did will be mirrored here it has already started by the nationalzation of health, banking manufacturing and education

  • Save America Susie

    The problem, Alphie, is that Germany didn’t see it coming UNTIL it was too late! I sympathize deeply with what you have said, but what you are talking about was when tyranny was already on-going. Many here are talking about nipping it in the bud. Why wait til it is upon you? That is all we are saying. The Founders warned us, and we should constantly be reading their words, and life stories, to get the full picture. And be ever vigilant against a root or seed of tyranny.

  • JeffH

    Dan, through polls taken, about 8%+- are Democrats.

  • http://donthaveone Beberoni

    And the numbers are growing , both from Democrats, Republicans, and Independants that have long looked for something new besides the same old same old.

  • JeffH

    Beberoni, you added on what I didn’t. Thanks and very accurate.

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