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Eric Holder’s Excellent Adventure

November 19, 2011 by  

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • http://naver samurai

    Another good one, fellow patriot! Eric Holder needs not to resign, but to be charged under the law, arrested, handcuffed (Not to Barney Franks or Boy George), and incarcirated. I hear Guantanimo is very nice this year. I agree about what you say about the OWS scurges. If they are the 99%, I really hate to see if that reflects on our great country. Holder took a trip to the Carribean? Maybe they can pull his passport and leave him stranded there. I know this won’t happen, but its just a merry and joyous thought. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    P.S. Down with the pretender and let’s get a real American (Not one with a fake birth certificate and SSN#) into the White House.

    • Warrior

      I say invest in corrugated packaging. There’s going to be a whole lot of moving taking place in about a year.

      • Joe H.

        Warrior,
        i always KNEW rosie didn’t like it EITHER way!!! BACON??!?!? HA HA!!!!

    • moonbeam

      My sentiments exactly!

      • http://naver samurai

        Thank you moonbeam, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • talkinbout

      Bill Maher is funny. Ben Crystal is not.

      • Jimbo

        Bill Maher thinks the 911 terrorists were brave heros.

      • http://naver samurai

        And you are a moron, talkingabout. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Eli Jones

    If we can get Holder’s scape, it will greatly weaken the White House control freak. The “Fast And Furious” guns will be used to kill for years and years to come. Because of Eric Holder’s and Barack Obama’s gun running, US border agent Brian Terry and US immigration customs enforcement agent Jaime Zapata were killed by those guns. Also over two hundred of Mexico’s citizens have been slaughtered by Holder’s and Obama’s guns with many more deaths expected. Obama and Holder used 10 Million dollars of our tax money to finance their deadly Fast And Furious insanity. The “Fast And Furious” scheme was launched by these tyrants to create a motive and garner public support for more illegal gun control laws.

    SIGN THE PETITION TO PROSECUTE ERIC HOLDER FOR “FAST AND FURIOUS” (and pass it on)

    http://act.theteaparty.net/5273/prosecute-eric-holder/

    • Wu Ming Ren

      Another Leftist example of the ends justify the means. To make an omelet you have to break a few eggs. They know their own people will forgive them once they get enough violence occurring to cause their side to rise up and demand UN intervention, with the small arms treaty and the eventual elimination of the Second Amendment. It’s all good, when the people are completely disarmed and the Left can finally have its way with them, the ends justify the means.

    • JUKEBOX

      Holder is probably down in the Carribean checking on the offshore bank accounts that the Mexican drug cartels set up for him and Obama, at the taxpayer’s expense, of course.

      • Mike in MI

        Jukebox -
        Could be. But my money is betting he’s down there burying bodies in the furrows of Michelle-mah-belle’s new garden. That’s the one with all the flowers they’ll be harvesting for “medical pain relief”, or maybe “insectcides – you know…”roach” control.
        The American natives taught the Puritans and Pilgrims to use fish for fertilizing their corn. But, human bodies make Mari-j lots more better. Oblama-lama-ding-dong’s probably already promised each OWS participant a kilo after they come out of the polls – voting for ????????

    • http://naver samurai

      I’ve just signed it. Wu, I’ve heard that it didn’t pass legislation. Though I’m sure they may try again. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriots! We are winning and they are becomming despirate (sp) to hold onto power. Ergo, the great increase in lies and shirking of responsibility. Next year, there will be some “real change” in this country. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Joe H.

        Please God!!! Ron Paul/ Judge Napolitano in 2012!!!! Republican nomination or write in, What ever, JUST DO IT!!!

        • http://naver samurai

          Sook Young and I are starting to agree about Ron Paul. Let’s see if Indiana will at least put him on the ticket, if he is nominated. If he is, he sounds like the one who can help this ailing country. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • JC

            Take a look Samurai.

            Ron Paul Reality Check:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EKaq4qoQvOs

            80 reasons to vote for Ron Paul

            Ron Paul continues to be ignored by the main-stream media, even after statistically placing first, along-side Michelle Bachmann in the Ames Straw Poll on August 13th. Below, is a list of 80 reasons why you should vote for Ron Paul. This is a short list (I have one listing 116 that I am working on typing).

            1. Ron Paul served his country as a Flight Surgeon in the air force and the air national guard.

            2. Ronald Reagan has called Ron Paul one of the most outstanding leaders: “Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country.” – Ronald Reagan

            3. Believes national defense is the single most important responsibility the Constitution entrusts to the federal government.

            4. Voted to authorize military force to hunt down Osama bin Laden and authored legislation to specifically target terrorist leaders and bring them to justice.

            5. He will Make securing our borders the top national security priority.

            6. He will avoid long and expensive land wars that bankrupt our country by using constitutional means to capture or kill terrorist leaders who helped attack the U.S. and continue to plot further attacks.

            7. He will guarantee our intelligence community’s efforts are directed toward legitimate threats and not spying on innocent Americans through unconstitutional power grabs like the Patriot Act.

            8. He will end the nation-building that is draining troop morale, increasing our debt, and sacrificing lives with no end in sight.

            9. He will follow the Constitution by asking Congress to declare war before one is waged.

            10. He will only send our military into conflict with a clear mission and all the tools they need to complete the job – and then bring them home.

            11. He will ensure our veterans receive the care, benefits, and honors they have earned when they return.

            12. He will revitalize the military for the 21st century by eliminating waste in a trillion-dollar military budget.

            13. He will prevent the TSA from forcing Americans to either be groped or ogled just to travel on an airplane and ultimately abolish the unconstitutional agency.

            14. He will stop the government from taking money from the middle class and the poor to give to rich dictators through foreign aid.

            15. Ron Paul’s national defense policy will ensure that the greatest nation in human history is strong, secure, and respected.

            16. He is the leading spokesman in Washington for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies based on commodity-backed currency.

            17. He is known among both his colleagues in Congress and his constituents for his consistent voting record in the House of Representatives

            18. Dr. Paul never votes for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution.

            19. A man of principle and family values. He has been married to Carol for over 50 years, and are the proud parents of five children and have eighteen grandchildren.

            20. Ron Paul consistently voted to lower or abolish federal taxes, spending, and regulation, and used his House seat to actively promote the return of government to its proper constitutional levels

            21. He serves on the House Financial Services Committee and the Foreign Affairs Committee.

            22. He has been a distinguished counselor to the Ludwig von Mises (who was mentioned on Rush yesterday, 11/18/11) Institute, and is widely quoted by scholars and writers in the fields of monetary policy, banking, and political economy

            23. He has received many awards and honors during his career in Congress, from organizations such as the National Taxpayers Union, Citizens Against Government Waste, the Council for a Competitive Economy, and countless others.

            24. Dr. Paul’s consistent voting record prompted one Congressman to comment that “Ron Paul personifies the Founding Fathers’ ideal of the citizen-statesman.

            25. Ron Paul will Veto any unbalanced budget Congress sends to his desk.

            26. Will continue Refusing to further raise the debt ceiling so politicians can no longer spend recklessly.

            27. Will continue fighting to fully audit (and then end) the Federal Reserve System, which has enabled the over 95% reduction of what our dollar can buy and continues to create money out of thin air to finance future debt.

            28. Will fight for Legalizing sound money, so the government is forced to get serious about the dollar’s value.

            29. Will END the corporate stranglehold on the White House.

            30. Will drive down gas prices by allowing offshore drilling, abolishing highway motor fuel taxes, increasing the mileage reimbursement rates, and offering tax credits to individuals and businesses for the use and production of natural gas vehicles.

            31. Will work to eliminate the income, capital gains, and death taxes to ensure you keep more of your hard-earned money and are able to pass on your legacy to your family without government interference.

            32. Will oppose all unfunded mandates and unnecessary regulations on small businesses and entrepreneurs.

            33. Ron Paul will fight to put you back in control of your health care decisions, save you money on medical expenses, and institute reforms that will once again make America’s health care system the standard for other nations to follow.

            34. Ron Paul will repeal Obama-Care and end its unconstitutional mandate that all Americans must carry only government-approved health insurance or answer to the IRS.

            35. Ron Paul will allow purchase of health insurance across state lines.

            36. Ron Paul will work to provide tax credits and deductions for all medical expenses.

            37. He will work to exempt those with terminal illnesses from the employee portion of payroll taxes while they are suffering from such illnesses or are incurring significant medical costs associated with their conditions.

            38. He will work to give a payroll deduction to any worker who is the primary caregiver for a spouse, parent, or child with a terminal illness.

            39. Will ensure that those harmed during medical treatment receive fair compensation while reducing the burden of costly malpractice litigation on the health care system by providing a tax credit for “negative outcomes” insurance purchased before medical treatment.

            40. Guarantee that what is taken from taxpayers to pay for Medicare and Medicaid is not raided for other purposes.

            41. Make all Americans eligible for Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) and remove government-imposed barriers to obtaining HSAs.

            42. Stop the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) from interfering with Americans’ knowledge of and access to dietary supplements and alternative treatments.

            43. Prevent federal bureaucrats from tracking every citizen’s medical history from cradle to grave by prohibiting the use of taxpayer funds for a national database of personal health information.

            44. As an OB/GYN who delivered over 4,000 babies, Ron Paul knows firsthand how precious, fragile, and in need of protection life is.

            45. Dr. Ron Paul spent his entire career in the medical profession working to uphold this simple principle of “Do No Harm” by ensuring his patients received the best care he could give them, even if they could not afford it.

            46. Ron Paul believes it would be inconsistent for him to champion personal liberty and a free society if he didn’t also advocate respecting the God-given right to life—for those born and unborn.

            47. After being forced to witness an abortion being performed during his time in medical school, he knew from that moment on that his practice would focus on protecting life.

            48. As a physician, Ron Paul consistently put his beliefs into practice and saved lives by helping women seek options other than abortion, including adoption.

            49. Ron Paul will work to help Immediately saving lives by effectively repealing Roe v. Wade and preventing activist judges from interfering with state decisions on life by removing abortion from federal court jurisdiction through legislation modeled after his “We the People Act.”

            50. Will remove restrictions on drilling, so companies can tap into the vast amount of oil we have here at home.

            51. Will Repeal the federal tax on gasoline. Eliminating the federal gas tax would result in an 18 cents savings per gallon for American consumers.

            52. Ron Paul will lift government roadblocks to the use of coal and nuclear power.

            53. He will eliminate the ineffective EPA. Polluters should answer directly to property owners in court for the damages they create – not to Washington.

            54. Make tax credits available for the purchase and production of alternative fuel technologies.

            55. Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.

            56. Will stand by granting no Amnesty – The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

            57. Ron Paul will Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

            58. Ron Paul will End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.

            59. Ron Paul will Protect Lawful Immigrants – As President,
            Ron Paul will encourage legal immigration by streamlining the entry process without rewarding lawbreakers.

            60. He will Help parents better educate their children by providing parents with a $5,000 per child tax credit for tutors, books, computers, and other K-12 related educational needs.

            61. Paul will Ensure that the federal government treats high school diplomas earned through homeschooling the same as other high school diplomas.

            62. Dr.Paul is a strong supporter of the National Right to Work Act.

            63. Voted to defeat Big Labor’s “Card Check” scheme.

            64. Voted against the Police and Firefighter Monopoly Bargaining Bill.

            65. Ron Paul’s exceptional record on Right to Work issues earned him the prestigious Everett Dirksen Award from the National Right to Work Committee.

            66. Ron Paul is Introducing legislation to repeal the “Brady Bill” and the so-called “Assault Weapons Ban.”

            67. Authoring legislation to end U.S. membership in the anti-gun United Nations to ensure American tax dollars are not used to fund global gun control schemes like the so-called “Small Arms Treaty.”

            68. Ron Paul is Writing a bill that would allow pilots and specially trained law enforcement personnel to carry firearms in order to protect airline passengers and help prevent future 9/11-style attacks.

            69. Ron Paul has stood as a champion for law-abiding gun owners, and he will continue protecting your Second Amendment rights as President.

            70. Paul will support a Liberty Amendment to the Constitution to abolish the income and death taxes

            71. Ron Paul will eliminate the IRS!

            72. Capital gains taxes, which punish you for success (and interfere with your efforts to hedge against inflation by purchasing gold and silver coins), will also be repealed.

            73. Ron Paul has consistently endorsed legislation to let Americans claim more tax credits and deductions, including on educational costs, alternative energy vehicles, and health care.

            74. Dr.Paul believes it is immoral to tax senior citizens twice by requiring them to include Social Security benefits in their gross income at tax time.

            75. Would Restrain federal spending by enforcing the Constitution’s strict limits on the federal government’s power, which would help result in a 0% income tax rate for Americans.

            76. Will work for passage of comprehensive audit legislation, and he will also fight to legalize sound money so Americans will have alternatives to the Fed’s inflated paper money.

            77. Ron Paul will lead the charge to end the dishonest, immoral, and unconstitutional Federal Reserve System, enabling America to take a giant step toward economic security, financial responsibility, and lasting prosperity.

            78. Will allow the liquidation of bad debt.

            79. Will allow bankruptcies to occur, no more bailouts!

            80. Ron Paul has introduced a bill to eliminate the $1.6 trillion the United States owes the Federal reserve.

            The media is doing everything it can to pretend Ron Paul doesn’t exist…which is exactly why we should be supporting him.

          • JC

            Mind you, on the down side, I heard on CNN that he doesn’t support Federal relief for homeless kittens…

            The Cad! LOL

          • http://naver sook young

            The video was very interesting and thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

  • Dan W.

    Put the traitors in jail.

    • Evermyrtle

      Jail is the only place I would recommend, we are feeding them already, anyway. Hopefully if they are in jail we can decide what they eat and it will be so much more economical. I almost forgot, LIFE SENTENCES. is what I suggest!!!

      • http://naver samurai

        Maybe we can send Obama bin Laden to be among his brothers at Guantanamo. Maybe we can send them all to Indonesia or Kenya. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Mike in MI

          Sammie -
          Those people are not stupid. They figure they dealt with his parents once.
          The son of a scum bag went back again and has not been asked back since…that I of. You????

        • Mike in MI

          Redo: “…That I KNOW of . You????”
          Oh, and Slick Willy has already given his OK ($$$$) to use his private air-strip.
          Well, gee – what’s a guy to do??? Fer sum rezin, funds don’t seem to be coming in like ’08.
          Now…why would that be?

          • http://naver samurai

            Could it be that the average citizen is starting to wake up to what they allowed to be in office? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • John Hardman

    Eric Holder has satisfactorily completed His predestined mission in life; to disgrace Himself, his Family, His Office and single handedly started the Implosion of the entire treasonous Obama Presidency.
    This is the same guy that stated from His office that “The United States is a Nation of Cowards”. How fitting that He chose to hang himself on his own petard.

    • Joe H.

      John Hardman,
      Yup, I’m such a coward that if they gave him the chair for the death of those two border guards, I’d volenteer to flip the switch!!! I’m tired of politicians trying to bring about the down fall of my country!!

      • http://naver samurai

        I’ll stand with you and make sure all the wires are correctly connected. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Insurgent

    Washington DC is America’s cesspool for liars, whores, and thieves.

    • exbuckeye

      D.C. is the rectal orofice of the world, possibly the solar system,
      maybe even the whole galaxy

  • http://personallibertydigest Lyle McDaniell

    jail is too nice a place for him, a rocpile making little ones out of big ones down south in the sun.and all those connected with him .

    • AJ

      No he needs to dangle from a branch for his treasonous acts.

      • Angry Citizen

        ….And he needs to dangle from cajones so that it really hurts.

        • http://naver samurai

          Now that’s messed up. True, but messed up. Keep the comments coming. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • exbuckeye

      There’s a nice ‘resort’ place I recommend in Arizona.
      Sheriff Joe runs a tight ship for all aboard!!

      • moonbeam

        Don’t forget Pelosi. I’m sure there’s a spot open on the chang gang. She and her ilk made insider trading legal for them and illegal for the rest of us. Now I know how bushboy did it and got away with it and Martha Stewart went to prison.

        Why do We The People stand for downright blatant corruption such as this to continue?

        • Joe H.

          Moonbeam,
          while I agree that Martha got a little shaft, I still don’t like her as she messed up my local Sears Hardware, turned it into a poor excuse for an appliance store, and now it has closed!!! did you ever look at some of the garden tools(?) she designed?? CRAP, all of it!!!

          • E.W.

            All items are made in China, that’s why it’s all crap. Read labels, you’ll see. Nothing is made in the U.S. anymore… nothing.

            We are a nation of services. There is a email going around.. buy or give U.S. American items this year for Christmas. Give Gift Certificates for cleaning house, vehicle detailing, theater, concerts, Hair cuts, massages… restaurants. These are all services. Support your local craft shops/services.

  • http://Awaytosaveameasly20BillionDollars Bob Bortz

    Are you aware of the 20 Billion dollar portion of the stimulus package that will pay doctors $44,000 to implement an Electronic Medical Records (EMR) system in their practice? This stimulus (also referred to as the Health Information Technology for Economic and Clinical Health (HITECH) Act.) bribes physicians to use a “qualifying” EMR system that provides the Federal Government with certain data about their patients (YOU).

    First off, wouldn’t you think if a doctor wanted an EMR system, they’d go ahead and buy it because in theory, they help the physician reduce documentation costs, save time, and provide better patient care. All of this is highly debatable, but should we taxpayers be funding this project? For years, doctors have been putting these systems in, and for years, they’ve been throwing them out because they haven’t met their expectations. Now, part of the ObamaCare calls to provide cash incentives (bribes) of $44,000 to EVERY physician who will install an EMR which qualifies for what the government calls “Meaningful Use”. The “Meaningful Use” criteria really amounts to a joke, and I won’t bore you with the details, but believe me, when I tell you that many many many physicians who up till now never put an EMR system in, are doing it now, JUST TO GET the $44K (your’s and my hard earned money). Many physicians, as soon as they get the money, will probably stop using the system because they still won’t be meeting their expectations. They won’t be saving the doctor time or money. What really irritates me is this little ditty. There are web based EMR systems available that qualify under the “Meaningful Use” guidelines that are absolutely FREE for the doctor to use. All the doctor needs is a PC connected to the Internet.

    The Federal Government’s argument for paying for this is that in the long run, if ALL physicians used these systems, then a reduction in the cost of healthcare delivery would occur. There’s absolutely no proof for this, and even if there was, if why wouldn’t a doctor do it on their own, and why should we taxpayers underwrite the cost of this, especially at this point in time. Our country simply can’t afford it! The only people it’s really helping are the EMR vendors. They have fallen into the biggest government sponsored win fall of all time!

    Some have accused ObamaCare of wanting access to your personal health records. They have denied this. This past year, we have had to capture 3 new pieces of patient information to place into the EHR so our clients using EHR systems could meet “Meaningful Use” and get their $44K. They are Race, Ethnicity, and Preferred Language. This data could have been captured from an insurance claim, filed by the doctor, but you decide if its worth paying a doctor $44K so they can provide this information about their patients to the Fed.

    If this is a part of ObamaCare, and IF ObamaCare gets repealed, then would we still be needing (or wanting) to pay doctors this money? If we act too late, I don’t think we’ll be able to ask the doctors for the money back. They are beginning to make payments now. They will be paid in three installments. A practice of 3 physicians would receive $132,000!. Even if the doctors are choosing to purchase a system because they don’t like the FREE one (maybe it isn’t as good), they just don’t cost this much money, and like all things computers, they’ve been steadily decreasing in price, except for the fact that now their sales pitch includes “hey doctor, why wait, now the government will buy it for you!”. The only problem with this is it’s not the government paying for it. IT’s YOU AND ME!

    It’s important to freeze funds NOW. A physician should purchase or install a particular EMR system because it benefits the physician, not to claim $44K in taxpayer dollars.

    Our elected officials are having such a hard time trying to cut the budget. Lets help them out by letting them know how we feel about this item. At the least, because there’s a good possibility that the act may be repealed, it only makes sense to at least temporarily, stop these payments now!

    There are probably other plans underway like this that I’m unaware of, but I’d propose our congress and senate vote to place a moratorium on distributing ALL undistributed stimulus funds until the programs are further scrutinized. Look at SOLYNDRA!

    Bob Bortz

    • Duffy1949

      Bob B
      You are right on target. In addition the EMR is not as private as perceived.I personally don’t believe it saves time and/or money. Entering information in a computerized system is extremely time consuming especially if the person entering the information is not proficient in using the computer.

      • Joe H.

        duffy,
        My Dr. already has it and one thing it DOES do is cut down on false prescriptions. The system is connected to all pharmacies in the area and it sends the prescript to them and the patient then picks them up. Their system was part of the system installed in the hospital as they are connected in both Dr.s and billing. It also automatically generates records, as well. I had to have some records for a specialist and the records were generated in less than an hour when used to be you had to give them a few days notice for all record copies!

        • Joe H.

          also, the Dr. doesn’t type on a computer, he writes on a PDA. it is decifered and downloaded to your records.

        • Wu Ming Ren

          A long read, but at least read the last two paragraphs if you don’t have time for the whole lot.

          When my clinic transcribed all my hand-written records into the data files, they decided to cut down on the data entry effort by gisting the contents rather than providing a verbatim transcript. This caused me a lot of grief, because I was seriously harmed by many blood pressure medications, and I suffered many years, while the doctors tried and then abandoned one drug after another. Now, my record no longer lists all the drugs that I am not able to take or the side-effects each caused me. Some of those side-effects were not listed anywhere in the literature. Each of us is unique in our tolerance of drugs, and I am particularly sensitive. I can’t be alone in this.

          What really angered me was after working so hard to identify a weird, low-dose cocktail of five different drugs, some of which are not even commonly prescribed anymore (I have to make sure the pharmacy has the pills on hand a week before I ask for a refill), my doctor moved away. The new doctor immediately wanted to eliminate all my drugs and get me back to the starting point of the commonly prescribed Norvasc. I refused to let him treat me and found a new doctor that allowed me to stay on the pills I knew were working, but I had to convince the new doctor by showing her my records, as the clinic’s records had no entries. Even now, my records have been updated, but with the caveat, “Patient reported.” Surely, some arrogant doctor down the road will dismiss my claims and run me all through this crap again.

          Norvasc made my legs swell up so much that my skin split, leaving ugly lesions that could not heal. I couldn’t leave the house because I couldn’t get a pair of pants over my legs or shoes on my feet. If I went out in shorts, people would stare and back away, thinking I must have leprosy or something. The lesions oozed clear fluids so bad that I had to wear socks so my feet wouldn’t be slippery on my hardwood floors. They gave me Furosemide to get the swelling down, but it didn’t work. Instead, it caused severe, disabling gout. Then they gave me Colchicine for the gout, and I puked my guts out. They tried Lisinopril, but it made me cough like a poodle every few seconds. They gave me Diovan, Catapres, Nifedipine, and more, each one variously causing my heart to either pound like a jackhammer or beat irregularly and erratically. They gave me one drug after another, forcing me to take it for a certain time to see if the side-effects would wear off with continued use. The side-effects didn’t stop until I stopped taking the medicine. Eventually, they ran out of drugs, and then started in with minimal doses of those drugs, none of which did anything for me on its own, but when they got to five different drugs, each at a minimal dose, finally I got my blood pressure down.

          The point of this long explanation is to tell you that there is no such thing as “one size fits all” in medicine. Yet ObamaCare will attempt to pound square pegs into round holes, and if it doesn’t work for you, too bad for your side! Every doctor I’ve seen since getting my blood pressure under control is taken aback by the long list of drugs I am taking and immediately wants to get me down to one magic pill. That magic pill is probably the one he needs to write a prescription on in order to qualify for the Alaska cruise this year. I am certain that under ObamaCare, a “government” doctor will someday override all that has gone before because the “government manual” says the most effective treatment for high blood pressure is clearly spelled out and deviation from the standard treatment protocol will not be allowed. (I was in the military for 12 years; I know how government regulations work).

          The whole purpose of the digital health record is to allow for statistical analysis of diseases, treatments, costs, and results. Those falling outside the cost-effective parameters determined by government bean counters will simply not get the unique, individual treatment they need. Such “difficult” patients may get farmed out to other clinics or doctors, because each doctor’s performance will be measured by cost effectiveness, and difficult patients will become as hot potatoes to them.

          Another purpose of the digital health record will be to locate all the firearms that escape being cataloged by other means. Why else would the nurse ask: “Does anyone in your household smoke? Take illegal drugs? Drink alcoholic beverages? Own a firearm?” They try to say that it’s a safety issue relating to health, yet they don’t ask if you have vicious animals living in the home, or have bathtubs, or steps, or power tools, or pesticides, or motorcycles, or whatever. There are more things that are dangerous to people than firearms, yet firearms are the thing they ask about, and they’re lumped in with other pariah activities. And how innocently do they ask one’s children these questions!

    • William

      I am an ER doc. I can tell you that EMRs are mandatory if one wishes to receive Federal funds, i.e., Caid and Care. They are tedious, useless formats to record anything pertinent to medical problems but are an excellent way for teh Feds to collect personal data. I believe this was the only reason for their inception. Bamacare makes it illegal for Docs &/or Institutions to request monies up front. Therefore all will have to eventually accept whatever monies or dictates this Socialist Communist Progressive regieme deems fitting.We are already forced to worry more about documentation than we are about the patient’s (NOT “consumers” as the Gov would have them labeled) problems. Vote your conscience in the primaries but we must come together in Nov 2012 or be prepared for bloodshed. May God help us.

  • Gayle

    When the water gets hot holder and obama suddenly have trips to take. Don’t they know we’ll still be here when they get back. I’m so ready to see and hear the last of them and all their supporters.

    • bob wire

      It does seem that way, doesn’t it. He leaves and allows the rest of government to do their work, having left them with something to keep them busy while he was gone. (Bosses do that all the time) After all, there is some 400 of them to do it. It’s not like they are left “under staffed” or have little to do.

      O has had a busy week, if you’ve been keeping up. Shoring up of the US military presence in the Pacific, opening up of a new Marine base 150 thousand strong in Australia,buying some 78 used British jump jets, relaxing relations with Burma and working his way to China for a “come to Jesus” meeting with President Hu Jintao as they discuss trade & currency issues. There has been a new focus in foreign affairs this week, all directly and indirectly focused on China and southern hemisphere of the Pacific.

      So, Gayle ~ he’s had a full week and when he returns he will deal with what did and didn’t get done.

      I’m not suggesting any of this is good or bad, it’s just been a busy week for everyone and what made the “news”

      • Sovereign4Ever

        @Bob Wire (I bet Barb is your wife’s name… lol): I’m curious as to why you say the following but yet are unwilling to say whether you believe “any of this is good or bad”. Are you straddling the fence post or the barbed wire connecting the posts? Either way, it must be a tad uncomfortable.

        “… Shoring up of the US military presence in the Pacific, opening up of a new Marine base 150 thousand strong in Australia, buying some 78 used British jump jets, relaxing relations with Burma and working his way to China for a ‘come to Jesus’ meeting with President Hu Jintao as they discuss trade & currency issues. …”

        • JC

          150,000 strong US presence in Australia? When we need them here at home? I have to wonder if this isn’t just the UN presence in Aus. for the upcoming Martial Law Gala we’re expecting in the western world? I hope not.

          • Stan

            150,000 Marines in Australia is not correct. I believe the commitment made was 15,000. The United States Marine Corps is limited to 200,000 members, except during certain Wars like WWII, when Congress raised the level because of wartime necessity.

          • eddie47d

            What’s a “little” exaggeration among friends,right JC.

          • http://naver samurai

            Even if it is 15,000, where are they coming from? We don’t have the resources for this as we are spread out very thin around the world. If we are doing this because Obama bin Laden is having a tizzy fit with China, then I say do not build the base. We need them here and over there keeping an eye on China. We can’t tell the Chinese what to do, just like they can’t tell us what to do. It seems like Obama bin Laden is out to start another war. This time, it’ll we with a well trained and regulated army and not a bunch of wackos wanting to die for allah. China also has nuclear capability that can span the world in a matter of minutes. I can just see a mushroom shaped cloud somewhere in America because of this moron in office. My family is trained and ready for just such and emergency, are yours? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • eddie47d

            We could see mushroom clouds coming from the Reagan and G Bush Presidencies. So your point is pointless unless you are an anti-warrior on all American wars since WWII.

          • JC

            eddie47d says:
            November 19, 2011 at 3:36 pm
            What’s a “little” exaggeration among friends,right JC.

            Coming from the King of Hysterical commentary…
            that’s rich Commie boy.
            It was a simply a response dipstick…I didn’t come up with the number. Still, we don’t need, and Australia doesn’t need any American military on Australian soil. It’s a sovereign nation isn’t it?

          • JC

            eddie47d says:
            November 19, 2011 at 6:39 pm
            We could see mushroom clouds coming from the Reagan and G Bush Presidencies. So your point is pointless unless you are an anti-warrior on all American wars since WWII.

            WTF are you talking about? Do you EVER make sense?

          • Joe H.

            COMEON JC!!! THIS IS eddie WE ARE DISCUSSING!!!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            JC , now we know that ed-duh never makes sense. If he ever tried to think to make sense of something, his brains would explode and start oozing out of his ears. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. Sheesh ed-duh, where di you see any mushroom shaped clouds during Reagan, Bush I, or Bush II terms in office? Neeeeed to be making that popping sound.

        • JUKEBOX

          BOB WIRE is what the MSM and Democrats refer to as “MODERATE”.

          • s c

            Jukebox, it’s more a matter of a ‘moderate’ who leans “hard to port,” and is in dire need of a good dictionary. I haven’t researched it yet, but I suspect that the term (moderate) was given to us by utopians who manipulate language the same way Lenin did [he said a DEMOCRACY is 'the rule of the
            herd']. By the way, America is a Republic – not a half-assed, limp-wristed democracy, contrary to what some useful idiots on this website think and say.

          • http://naver samurai

            Both of you are correct, but you left out the part about his posts being exceedingly long at times. Then they still say nothing. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Joe H.

            samurai,
            He could just say “Crap” and it would take three paragraphs!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Ha, ha, ha, ha! You’re cracking me up today, fellow patriot. Keep up the good fight! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • bob wire

          “Sovereign4Ever says:
          November 19, 2011 at 9:50 am

          @Bob Wire (I bet Barb is your wife’s name… lol): I’m curious as to why you say the following but yet are unwilling to say whether you believe “any of this is good or bad”. Are you straddling the fence post or the barbed wire connecting the posts? Either way, it must be a tad uncomfortable.”

          Don’t have a wife ~ at the moment, but if I did, Barb would work well but it will most likely be a Debbie the way things are going.

          As far as comfort goes, I am as comfortable with the facts as you seem to be with your desires. I have never noticed my “comfort” to be anyone’s priority~ except for maybe Debbie.

          With good, comes bad and with bad comes good. What is seen as a bad investment short term could easily be a great investment for tomorrow.

          It’s always being known China would someday be a force to reckon with on several levels. ~ China plays a “long game” while the US, tends to play a very short game.

          Owing China money has advantages, they are invested in America. It seems most people here see that as “bad”. I asked you, Has anyone ever owed you a lot of money? I have and it’s delicate position to be found in.

          Nixon open this door, Clinton made it into a gate, George and Obama walked through it and the world will never be the same for it. There is no “going back”, it’s not an option. We are left to play out the game for the good and bad of it. China is a worthy friend and adversary and a balance must be kept.

          China has noted these latest changes, shift in focus and registered their concerns. It is good that they not think we sleep and hold ambitions when our leaders set down to talk. All must come to the table in some position to bargain. Don’t you think?

          • Wu Ming Ren

            I’m not sure if owing someone a lot of money is a good analogy here. I mean, if you owe the mob a lot of money and don’t pay up, you may soon find yourself face down at the bottom of a footing for a tall building. If China ever gets the idea that the U.S. cannot repay its debt, we won’t have any leverage at all. Maybe we’d end up turning over real estate to get our I.O.U.s back. The Federal government owns something like 650 million acres of prime land, with lots of resources on and under it. That might some day become a ransome payment to those playing the long game.

          • http://naver samurai

            Interesting Wu Ming. I’ll have to check that out. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Molon Labe

        Bob you are one of the sheeple lemmings that refuses to come to terms with the reality of how this traitor-in-chief is absolutely destroying our country!
        WAKE UP OR GET OUT!

        • bob wire

          Get out of what? your head? LOL! ☺

          I am awake thank you, Just because I don’t carry a belly full of hate and behave like a rabid dog lashing out at all that “offends” does not mean that I am sleeping.

          I offered a list of what happened this week and you see it necessary to attack me for it?

          I take it that you didn’t like the news? ~ So who’s sleeping today, waking up just long enough to swallow more poison?

    • Angry Citizen

      Gayle, those two are like little children, who, as long as their parents are out of sight, everything is o.k., and they won’t be punished; Almighty God is out of sight, but He sees what’s happening, and will reward the two little culprits…in His time.

      • JUKEBOX

        Those two only give MINIMAL lip service to GOD in their normal duplicitous way.

        • http://naver samurai

          Both of you are correct. Obama bin Laden is no Christian, he’s a muslim. So his god is a false one. Lat’s get back to the ways we were founded and this country, with God’s help, will right itself over time. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • bob wire

            You keep saying that as maybe it could make it true!

            I don’t care if he is Santa Claus from Utah with 10 wives.

            Claiming to be a Christian today does not have a lot of meaning when it’s pontificated by everyone and their dog and used so loosely.

            “I’m a Christian and I hate his guts!” ~ too funny!

            “Two months before Oscar Ramiro Ortega-Hernandez allegedly fired shots on the White House, he asked an Idaho University student to videotape him as the second coming of Christ.

            “It’s not just a coincidence that I look like Jesus. I am the modern-day Jesus Christ that you all have been waiting for,” Ortega-Hernandez says in the 20-minute video”

            Evidently Oscar has actually seen a real picture of Jesus! I wonder how he did that?

            One more delusional right wingnut Christian bites the dust! Maybe Oscar enjoys a good crucifixion as well?

            You have already got a bunch of people killed and a Congresswomen shot through the head ~with all the wild and crazy talk, just how much more of this Christian work do you have planed for us?

          • http://naver samurai

            Wrong again Bob! The man who shot the Congresswoman from Arizona admitted there was no God, ergo he was an atheist. Second, Obama bin Laden admitted on a nationally televised speech that he was a muslim (On all the major MSM networks). Third, this person claimed to be Christ? Now we both now the man was insane and not a Christian, so what’s your point? Care to cite a source to where he said such things, hmmm? He associates said he was going to do something about Obama bin Laden, not that he was Christ. Neeeeed to get your facts straight before you post. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Karolyn

            Sook – You have your terrorists mixed up. bob is talking about the one who just this week fired shots at the White House. He’s mentally ill and in a videotape intimated that he is Jesus.

          • http://naver sook young

            Sheesh Karolyn, can’t you tell me from my wife? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Karolyn

            Ooops! Hey, both names start with “S”! :-)

          • bob wire

            Jed Lee Loughnear returned to court today, where authorities established that the accused mass murderer is still insane. According to a government psychiatrist, Loughner believes he killed Gabrielle Giffords, has “several imaginary friends,” and lost TV privileges because he thought the tube was sending him messages. When doctors informed him that he is insane, he was reportedly “devastated.”

            And you are right Samurai ~ he was not just a christian but a critic of Christians! Self Elevated !

            This is the paranoid worldview that Jared Loughner absorbed as he watched Zeitgeist obsessively. He was not the only one obsessed with it. The film has created a worldwide “movement” with thousands of followers, in which the director, Peter Joseph, has joined forces with Jacque Fresco, promoter of the utopian “Venus Project” that promises a currency-free “resource-based” future.

            “They do not want you to think too much.… You had better wake up and understand that there are people guiding your life, and you don’t even know it,” says one of the film’s “experts,” anti-Masonic conspiracy theorist Jordan Maxwell, near the end of Zeitgeist, after the narrator has denounced “the stupefying downward slide” of American education. A few minutes later, while images including Jesus Christ, Bill O’Reilly and Saddam Hussein flash across the screen, the narrator says: “The last thing the men behind the curtain want is a conscious, informed public, capable of critical thinking, which is why a continually fraudulent zeitgeist is output via religion, the mass media and the educational system.”

            Did Jared Loughner imagine himself part of that “conscious, informed public”? Did he believe his demented rantings represented “critical thinking”? These are questions that those trying to understand the carnage in Tucson may need to begin asking.

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            snacktastic
            28 Sep 2011 4:49 PM
            “lost TV privileges because he thought the tube was sending him messages” returned to court today, where authorities established that the accused mass murderer is still insane. According to a government psychiatrist, Loughner believes he killed Gabrielle Giffords, has “several imaginary friends,” and lost TV privileges because he thought the tube was sending him messages. When doctors informed him that he is insane, he was reportedly “devastated.”

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            28 Sep 2011 4:49 PM
            “lost TV privileges because he thought the tube was sending him messages”

          • Joe H.

            samurai,
            how convenient for abummer!! a guy shoots at the White House AND declares he’s Jesus!!!! Now watch abummer try to outlaw Guns AND GOD!!!! Too damn convenient!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            This is possible. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Wu Ming Ren

      Their trips are merely to give the media a chance to reset and put time between screw-ups, because the American public, in general, has a very short memory/attention span. If anyone tries to bring up something from before the reset, the media is all, “That’s old news. Nothing to see there. Moving along. Moving along.” My wife uses a similar tactic when procuring new clothes. She’ll buy something and put it in the back of the closet. Months later, she drags the new dress out and wears it for the first time, and I say, “Hey, that’s a pretty dress. How much did it cost?” Then, with a straight face and without even technically being caught in a lie, she says, “This old thing? Why I’ve had this for months.” Okay. Nice side-step of the actual question. It’s what the Obama administration and the media have been doing all along. “What? This old deficit? Why, Bush started it years ago! Ain’t my fault.” That’s supposed to be the end of the discussion, even as the American deficit grows larger, faster than ever before in our history.

  • bob wire

    There seem to be no end to the smorgasbord of disinformation contrived by the charlatan of “facts” and his strange spin on “funny”. Bill Maher doesn’t have to make his material up as the crazy right provides it with a straight face and serious as cancer. Maher only has to recite it verbatim with pauses and befuddled facial expressions.

    Mr. Crystal maybe if you attempted to be more serious you too could be seen as funny if that’s your ambition. This “Dangerous Dav” approach to funny has it’s limitations to an adult audience.

    • Dntmkmecmoverther

      Hmm. You are trying ever so hard to be eloquent…but you failed. Chrystal is trying to laugh and have his audience laugh at the utter stupidity of our incredibly stupid culture (which by your revelation includes YOU). He succeeds in his vocation; you fail in yours. I guess that balances us out, eh Bob?

      • bob wire

        Who am I to deny you your funny? If a green turd in a pickle factory works for you, ~ fine!

        • Joe H.

          I don’t know bob, anyone that would support abummer might just EAT that fake pickle!! BTW, didn’t you say you support abummer???

    • Gseven

      Personally I’m not aware of anything that Maher has ever done or said that was humorous. And actually, it is the Left that continues to amaze at how they can, with a straight face, tell you that raising taxes and more government spending will stimulate the economy. Strange, didn’t work for the Soviets, didn’t work when FDR tried it. Didn’t work when Wilson tried it.

      Let’s see, worked really well when Carter did it… no, no, let’s see, near 11% unemployment when he was President.

      Reagan comes in and it takes two years to correct what Carter screwed up. Good God, how long is it going to take with the Pretender and Chief once we have someone that actually does love and respect his Country and the Constitution?

    • JUKEBOX

      Bill Maher gets more exposure on this website than he does on HBO with his few thousand viewers.

      • Joe H.

        JUKEBOX,
        AND HE STILL HASN’T MADE ME LAUGH!! NOW CRYSTAL DAM SURE HAS!!!

    • Karolyn

      Crystal does try too hard. And now they have the girl who introduces him who he throws a funny line to. She does REAL well with that!

    • http://naver samurai

      Ah yes! Classic liberal strategy. If you don’t like what someone is saying or don’t understand it, always go to the personal attack. This was one, but you just used the old “velvet glove” touch. Sook Young and I think he is funny. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Joe H.

        samurai,
        her problem is Mr Crystal doesn’t look good through rose colored glasses!!! now Maher, HE looks good through rose colored glasses!! It’s that RED thing, don’tcha know!!!

        • http://naver samurai

          Is it a laser that is making that red dot on his forhead? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Jay

      Personally, i think Bill Maher is extremely funny, and although his sharp wit is usually aimed at the Conservatives, i’ve heard him rip into the left as well, and lately, has shown no mercy to obama. Actually called him a clown, and the white house puppet. I was surprised!

      • Karolyn

        Jay – You bring up a good point. Some people won’t even give a new source a chance if it is at all linked to being liberal. It’s like the website I like, “Common Dreams.” Yes, it is left-leaning; however there is still a lot of material that is worth reading; and the comments are generally pretty interesting and mostly against Obama. As long as a site is not over the top going either way, I will use it. PLD is more balanced than many others, which is why I come here. I also like the alternative medicine division.

        • bob wire

          Void a preconceived notion or “label”, most people don’t waste the time thinking; is this right or left thinking.

          They are are amused, flattered, shocked, offended or entertained and only later attempt to understand why.

          This is the joy of humor.

  • Karolyn

    So what’s wrong with a porn star helping kids to read more?

    • bob wire

      Retired porn star, and none worse the ware is seems. Stranger things has happen. I suppose if you wish to think of her as a transgressor you can.

      If I’m not mistakes, there are allowances and redemption offered for such things. Would you be one to deny the works of redemption by the redeemer? Such notions we find as bedrock by the Christian faith, to love and forgive. As you judge, so too shall you be judged. Shall the first stone be cast by those among us without sin, please step forward and show us your face.

      Gotta love it ! being Christan is the harder of two roads, UNTIL you really get it, but still a fight, everyday.

      • Dntmkmecmoverther

        Better check out your assumption that she (the porn queen) is a believer first off; and that she is repentant. Two doctrinal issues on which redemption rests…and can not be glossed.

        • bob wire

          It uis for you to behave like a Christian regardless Sir! You don’t cut a way of live and faith off and on like a light switch.

          Your sin is your sin, her’s is hers. Her sin does not make you immune from sin.

          Understand? I don’t think so. It’s clear, that you fail to understand your Christian responsibilities.

          • http://naver sook young

            Sorry Bob, but do you really set a good example for Christians to follow? Judge not lest you be judged. I do agree that we shouldn’t judge her on her past, but we are saying that maybe she is not the one the children need to look up to. Children at that young age are fragile and very impressionable, so what she was may psychologically affect their young minds. Could, not will. I hope this is a good answer for you and thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

          • bob wire

            an excellent answer and so I ask you, do you set a good Christian example Sook YounG?

          • http://naver sook young

            Yes I do. I do what I can everyday to set a good example. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife os the Samurai

      • http://naver samurai

        You also forget that when we repent, it must be from the heart and not lip service. Second, you must not commit the same sin again. Do you understand? I think you need to do a bit more reading before posting about Christianity. Faith is a good thing, but faith with no knowledge accomplishes nothing. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Alex Frazier

        What I personally find so incredibly dumbfounding is that this sort of reaction is what we get when there is but the mention of a porn star reading to children.

        But it’s perfectly okay for there to be military recruiters in the high school, influencing young men to join the military due to the benefits, like college, etc., without ever stressing the warning that they could very well die in the military.

        They did that with my eldest son. He’s seventeen now. They got him all hyped up to join the Marines. When I asked him why he was interested, there was no talk about defending his country, doing his duty, or even about wanting to kill Muslims. He was intersted because he could save money, get a lump of cash for college, and get more physically fit.

        So I showed him some online news footage. Since seeing the lines of flag-draped coffins, he hasn’t said much about it.

        But this clearly shows the mentality of our country, that recruiters can put our sons in jeopardy, encouraging them to join the military so they can go fight a war that has nothing to do with us, but a porn star, not peddling her wares, can’t read to children without the wickedness of her trade being made an issue.

        In other words, it’s okay for them to send my child home in a box, but it’s not okay for a woman of questionable morals to read to him.

        Gotta love it.

        And to be clear, I don’t object to the military. I don’t object to the voluntary choice to join and do your duty. I don’t encourage cowardice. What I object to is the recruitment without full and proper disclosure, using incentives to attract instead of patriotism to provoke.

        • Karolyn

          Thank you, Alex!

    • http://facebook Jungle Jim

      “What Is Wrong with a porn star,Helping Children to read?”..
      It Depends on the Reason;Promoteing Pornography?,Promoteing Religion?,Brain Washing,for any CAUSE,Just to be Consuidered “FUNNY”,There Are Many Things,Which May Cause,A PORN STAR,To Teach Children to read,Most of Which is Detrimental to a Childs Mental Developement,character,Financial,or Religious Understanding and Developement,Now,Please Respond,With Your Answer,To “What IS Wrong,With a Porn Star,Teaching Children to read”

      • Karolyn

        OMG! She was probably reading children’s literature. Judgments are easily made when no facts are present. As bob wire mentioned, how do you know where she is in her life today? You people are so quick to judge and have your guru, Ben Crystal, to egg you on!

        • Joe H.

          karolyn,
          Just how do YOU know where she ISN’T in her life??? As far as you know, she could have been molesting the kids while she read to them. YOU don’t know anymore than anyone else so quit being so holier than thou!!! DAM, I get so dam tired of you preaching to everyone!!!

          • Karolyn

            Who’s holier than thou? Not me! I’m not the one on his pedestal judging EVERYBODY. I’m just identifying behaviors exemplified by holier-than-thou people.

        • http://naver samurai

          Sorry Karolyn, but the decisions we make in life always follow us for our whole lives. If she was a porn star, then she’ll always be known as that, no matter what she changes. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Karolyn

            I have heard stories of pron stars who have turned their lives around and lived good decent lives. Everybody has the ability to change and should not be judged on past behavior.

          • http://naver sook young

            This is very true Karolyn. People can change their lives around, but they need more than just a psychiatrist or will power. They need God and Jesus to help them go through the steps to change their lives to becoming a better person. Do you remember a singer from the 80′s and 90′s named Appilonia? She did many videos with Prince. While being together, she had sex with him, became drunken, and became addicted to narcotics. She became a Christian and with God’s help, overcame her addictions, broke off her relationship with Prince, and became an evangelist. So you are right that some people can do it, but some people, no matter how hard they try, cannot. I know this lady is a former porn star, though she may have gone through some life changes, her past will always follow her. She’ll always be known for her illicit movies. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

    • http://naver samurai

      She does not set the good example for the children to follow. Neeeeed to do that also, Karolyn. If you have a pastor talk about God and Jesus, great! If you have an astronaut talk about going to the moon and back, great! But what can a porn star talk about? Nothing! What’s wrong with a porn star teaching children to read? That’s like asking what’s wrong with Hitler, Stalin, Mao, or Ho Chi Mihn talking about government and ideology. It’s just as bad as having Hitler or a member of the KKK talk about race relations. Neeeeed to look at every angle before posting. Since you say that you’ve studied so much about women’s problems, I’m surprised that you would ask such a thing. You know how such people are thought of in this society. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Karolyn

        You have got to be kidding me! So you are saying that someone in the porn industry can’t read “Cinderella” to a group of children without influencing them the wrong way? WOW is all I can say! Have you ever heard of strippers who do the work to go to college so they can become doctors or lawyers? I know you judge them, but I’m not talking about God or judgment. Just because someone is in that line of work does not mean that they don’t leave their work at the “office” and play with their kids like most people do when they get home.

        • Joe H.

          karolyn,
          And these kids aren’t going to go to a buddies house and maybe find a copy of the triple X rated cinderella and the seven dwarves starring a stripper, but there’s ALWAYS the chance they WILL see it starring this bimbo!!!

        • Void1972

          Karolyn
          I must agree with you because most teachers have sold out our children and America for thier own personal wealth, just as a whore sells their goods for profit. What is the difference if a porn star slut teaches our kids or an educated whore?
          If you wonder why America went from #1 to 25 out of the top 30 Industrialized nations in education, in just 15yrs, just look in the mirror and see the face of dumb liberalism to destroy all that is good with America and replace it with your stupidity. your stupidity is winning!

          • Karolyn

            Your screen name aptly describes you.

          • http://naver sook young

            Why do you always say you are just talking about someone’s behavior, but then you made an uncalled for personal attack? We women in today’s world have to get passed making personal attacks and try to use the knowledge God has given us. He, just like you, is entitled to his opinion and has the same rights under our great Constitution. Please, let’s try to be bigger than this, OK? Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

          • Karolyn

            Sook – I guess I too fall prey to the trap sometimes. Mea culpa. He was wide open for that one with a name like “Void.” I just couldn’t help myself. Of course, I’ve been called worse.

          • http://naver sook young

            I understand Karolyn. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

          • bob wire

            So just how much validity should we place on titles and labels Sook Young?

            Who wants to smoke cigarettes named “Sky Walker” or hire an Attorney from a firm named “Dewey Scrum and Howe” or take a posting serious from “Void” or “Lastmanstanding” or “Conservativeatbirth” for we know such notion impossible as these labels indicative of a most short sided view of life or directed at humor.

            As I find myself today cleaning and changing the diaper of the last man standing, I can assure you, it’s not all as noble as it is perceived to be nor have I ever met a conservative infant in my 63 years.

            I find Such “labels” most deserving attack for their short-sided view of the human endeavor to just simply “survive”, I find them most juvenile, unworthy of serious consideration being found void of vision or personal experiences.

            These people chose these screen names and they are “not” forced upon them.

            Leaving you to call me just~ “Bad Bob Wire” if you will, ~ or my given name, “Long Shanks” which I find overtly precocious and much too revealing. ☺

          • Joe H.

            Bob,
            more likely your real name is Needle Dick, the bug f@#$er!!! Long Shank??? Dream on, DREAM ON!!! To the ladies, excuse my prophecies!!

        • http://naver samurai

          There are other jobs they can do besides stripping and porn. Many of them always talk about the money and they tend to have very low self esteem. Neeeeed to investigate the subject a little more closely and take off your rose colored glasses. Though I know you have a different opinion and you mean well, but try to study harder and stop just taking the female side all the time. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Karolyn

    At least one of our founding fathers would have backed OWS – Robert Yates.
    http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/11/18-2

    • Dntmkmecmoverther

      Yates although an antifederalist, was so, due to his concern over the ‘giving up of rights’ and/or the stronger federal government being put together which he feared might endure to suppress those rights.

      The OWS folks on the other hand are content to ‘take whatever they want’ even while attacking the rights of those in their midst. Rapes, murders, filth, stench, theft, violation of personal property are all part of the mantra of the occupiers. They are NOTHING like the anti federalists who fought as patriots of the new Republic.

      Based on historical evidences, Yates would NOT be a supporter of the ows folks at all.

      • JUKEBOX

        I wonder if “RULES FOR RADICALS” saw a spike in sales during the OWS demonstrations. Of course, I also wonder how many OWS demonstrators can read beyond a second or third grade level. “JACK AND JILL WENT UP THE HILL TO GET THEIR FREE FOOD AND DRUGS. AFTER HAVING SEX, JILL CAME BACK WITH ALL OF THE GOODIES”.

      • Karolyn

        Just keep judging. It must make you feel good. That usually is the case. When one denigrates or judges another, it is done to make one feel superior.

        • s c

          k, your words are hollow and scripted. Your childish defense of Holder indicates that you would defend a Hitlerian personality. In at least one respect, that is exactly what you and your ‘pals’ are doing by defending Holder and Obummer.
          If no one has told you yet, Obummer is the new brat on the block who is OWNED by the “establishment.”
          You’re making the same mistake demonstrators made in the ’60s. They didn’t get it, and you don’t get it. Your borrowed ‘morality’ has neutered your conscience.
          It’s no sin to be wrong. The sin is in being blinded and not seeing it for what it is. Every day, DISCERN. Sift and sort. Ask questions. Challenge, and know that you know. “Feeling” is not good enough.

          • Karolyn

            SC = I was not referencing Holder but was speaking to the judgment of OWS protesters.

          • eddie47d

            What would you expect from SC who always jumps to conclusions in her scripted comments. Sometimes she doesn’t even know what the conversation is about yet keeps posting away. Maybe she needs to be Put Away before she harms someone with her pointed words. LOL

          • http://naver samurai

            Karolyn, our founding fathers may support peaceful petitioning and protest, but not the law breaking and attacking of the local law enforcement personnel. I also don’t think they would approve of them crapping on police cars either. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Karolyn

            ONE picture of ONE person, probably a homeless derelict, crapping; and it becomes part of the whole group!

          • Karolyn

            samurai – Face it! You really have no clue what the “Founding Fathers’ would make of it. Personally, I believe they would applaud civil disobedience – people standing up and being counted – whatever they’re standing up for!

          • eddie47d

            They sure like to lick up on that one pooping incident. Must be an obsession!

          • Joe H.

            sc,
            Leave it to eddie to talk about licking up poop!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Here goes Karolyn and Ed talking poop again. Like I said before Karolyn, they would agree with peaceful protest, but not breaking laws and attacking police officers. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. Licking up poop? What do you know about that ed-duh? Was that your union job to lick the poop off of your boss’ shoes for a bonus? Or is that what you did to someone who brown nosed the boss? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Joe H.

            BTW eddie,
            now whos getting violent?? YOU! ” maybe she needs to be taken out before she hurts someone with her sharp words”!!! I know damn well you don’t mean to take JC out to DINNER!!!

        • moonbeam

          Don’t waste your breath, Karolyn. See, these guys are mad because instead of the porn star making movies for them to “drool” over, she is helping children to learn to read. So, now she’s no good, dirty rotten, low down shame to them…see. However, that’s not the case while they enjoy her movies. you know it’s true.

          • Joe H.

            moonbeam,
            i could care less WHAT moves the bimbo would make! I have a wife of 35 years I still drool over, I don’t need a FAKE woman!!! Besides, she is like a doorknob, in that EVERYONE has had a turn!!! She might excite YOU, but most definately NOT ME!!!

          • http://naver sook young

            I can’t understand why a mature, grown woman would want to do such things to themselves. Why would she want to take the chance of being infected by some disease or worse? I’ll pray for her. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

        • Void1972

          Karolyn

          True Americans in the Tea Party go to Washington for one day and have a peaceful, clean and patriotic protest against the destruction of America, and the government behind it, and are labeled terrorist, racist and radicals by our media, black caucus, liberals and the obamanation.

          A bunch of filthy, stinking communist, socialist, drugged out union thugs takeover cities for weeks, cause tens of millions of dollars in damage, rapes, robberies, overdoses and murders, and they are labeled good Americans by the media, liberals and the obamanation.

          Good is bad and bad is good.

          This is how communism began in Russia and China, by making good people look bad, and bad seem good.

          The good go to work and try to do the right thing for their families, God and country.
          These are the conservative Tea Party.

          The bad do everything against family, God and country.
          These are the liberal flee baggers, the same type of “peasants” that made communism possible for the destruction of Russia and China.

          Do your homework on the true beginning of communism and the families behind it, and you will see that they are still in the process of a one world government.
          Read “To Eliminate the Opiate” by Marvin Antelman.

          The sheep continue to live their lives as the world
          burns around them. It’s wake-up time.
          God bless America, and those who fight for her!!!!

          • http://naver sook young

            Maybe she can also read the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx, where he says that religion is the opiate of the masses. If you need a copy Karolyn, tell me and I’ll ask my husband to find a cite for you to download it. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

    • JC

      Big proponent of gang rape was he?
      Or maybe he was just a litterbug…
      Or…OR! maybe he was an advocate of arson?

      Go back to bed Karolyn.

    • JC

      Oh! And speaking of sexual assault…The TSA is 10 years old today.
      Hope you choke on your cake you low life maggots. :)

  • del

    Time to impeach and jail the racist idiot holder who thinks its ok for his “new black panther” jerks to intimidate white voters. As for the muslim squatting in the white house time to hang him for fraud, treason, tryanny against We the People…what a pair of crooked thugs with no skill to be in government….

    • Joe H.

      arantee you, if one of those racist progressive punks tries to intimidate me or mine, I will be arrested!!

  • Daren

    Doesn’t Holder remind you of a little ole weasel. He has those thin set beadie eyes, his little ole mustace, his total lack of emotion and always on the hunt. The hunt for revenge for some reason. Just like his spoon buddy obama. They both hate the foundation of American values and are willing to do whatever it takes to destroy the framework our founding fathers set up. Holder and Kagan are nothing else but, obumer and the radical dumocrat liberals personal attorney and court jester.

    • http://charter howe

      Holder was involved in a corrupt cover-up concerning a foreign business (Chiquita Banana). He is a well educated lawyer who has partnered with Obama to take us down the road to Marxism. He is a lawyer who has no ethical boundaries and manages to blame evrybody else just like his master in the Whitehouse. Holder has committed several impeachable offenses, but to get BOO HOO Boehnor to start impeachment proceedings would be like howling at the moon. We have a chance to clean house in Nov 2012, I hope the polls do us right.

    • JUKEBOX

      Daren, I have a vision of Holder in a chicken house, killing as many chickens as he can, with blood dripping off his chin. Substitute humans for chickens, and you have a better picture of his true personality.

  • Daren

    BOB WIRE: Your correct but your missing a key factor in all this with your thoughtful reminder above, however, Christian’s have never been taught to lay down their arms in order to defend our values and beliefs. Christians are under attack from Obama, Holder and the radical army they are aligned with.

    • eddie47d

      Go back to bed with Blackwater,the neo-nazi’s and the rest of your assorted friends Daren. Check under your bed for the rest of them before you turn off the lights!

      • http://naver samurai

        SSDD eh ed-duh? Why the classic liberal strategy of the personal attack? I don’t think he warranted one in this case, do you? It is true that Christians are being persecuted around the world, in this country also. We are not being jailed or killed, but our rights are being stripped from us everyday. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • eddie47d

        He made a personal attack, and what do we call you when YOU make a personal attack? Arrogant?? You do your own popping!

        • Joe H.

          eddie, ANOTHER LIE?!?!?!? Where did he make a personal attack??? Point it out in his post to bob!!! HYPOCRITE!!!!

        • http://naver samurai

          I agree with Joe H. Care to show where he made a personal attack? I would really like to see about him saying not to lay down arms is a personal attck. Popping sound won’t do you any good. Your head seems to be permanently affixed to the inside of your arse. No operation or popping sound possible. When you pass gas, that’s just the sound of you exhaling when you breathe. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Joe H.

            samurai,
            That sound you hear when he passes gas is his ears flapping against the insides of his colon!!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Ha, ha, ha, ha! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • http://naver sook young

          Are you going to respond to my husband and Joe H? Thank you.

          Sook Young
          Wife of the Samurai

      • bob wire

        “Christians are under attack from Obama, Holder and the radical army they are aligned with.”

        If you truly feel this way, I would expect you to offer some validation that would support your claim. What makes you believe this and please share it with me.

        I would not think that I ask too much of you to do so.

  • http://facebook Jungle Jim

    While You Folks are,Commenting,On Your Computers,This Week,I Sent A Message,ToSenator John Cornyn,and Kay Baily Hutchison,Senators From Texas, And Respectfully Requested,They Contact Your President,And Ask For His Immediate RESIGNATION.
    I Am Aware,They Most Probably,WILL NOT ask him to RESIGN,However,After 10 Days,I Intend To Submit Another Request,Allowing 10 ndays For a Response,After Which I Intend To Lodge a Compliant,Citeing their Lack of RESPONSIBILITY,In Requesting,Obamas,Resignation,And Since Kay Baily Hutchison,Is Retireing,Soon,I Will Only Say Good Ridence,However John Cornyn Is In His,Mid Term Stage,And Either He Follows up on my Request,Or I Begin a Campaign,Against His RE- ELECTION….NUFF SAID!…….

    • Karolyn

      Oh, I bet they are shakin’ in their boots. Jungle Jim has spoken!

      • http://naver samurai

        Voting is a powerful weapon against those already in office. They may be shaking in their boots if enough votes go the other way. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Joe H.

          samurai,
          Especially if they were elected by a narrow margine!!! they say ech caller or writer equalls something like twenty votes. now if they get, say, a hundred or a thousand letters like his, well, let the shakin’ begin!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            I don’t know about Ohio, but my representative is Joe Donnely and he’s been receiving a lot of letters like that. You can tell by what is printed about him in the papers. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • MNIce

      Before you send your message, get your comma key unstuck. You have far more commas than the natural, grammatically correct usage would require. It makes your text difficult to read; one must ignore all of the commas and mentally insert commas where they really belong. It’s like listening to Mr. Obama making a speech without his Teleprompter, “The uhhh Republicans want to uhhh kill everybody with uhhh dirty air and uhhh dirty water …”

    • bob wire

      “.NUFF SAID!…” by whom?

  • http://facebook Jungle Jim

    Happy THANKS GIVING,Everyone,I’m Going TURKEY HUNTING…..

    • JUKEBOX

      You might want to go to Washington, because I have seen a few thousand Turkeys there, and at the OWS demonstrations.

      • Joe H.

        JUKEBOX,
        QUIT STEALIN’MY THOUGHTS!!!LOL!

        • http://naver sook young

          I’ve only seen pigs at these demonstrations. Thank you.

          Sook Young
          Wife of the Samurai

          • bob wire

            I seen pigs with pepper spray too Sooky!

            brought their own seasoning!

          • http://naver sook young

            If the students were told to break up their protest, then the police/campus security are allowed to use pepper spray aren’t they? Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

  • s c

    We’ll have to leave reasons and causes to America’s psychiatrists and clinical psychologists. When someone like Holder can do what he’s done [responsible for DEATH is his worst crime for now], and is not capable of remorse, you KNOW you’re dealing with someone who MUST be removed from his position.
    That having been said, almost the SAME must be said about those who will LOOK for reasons to support him at ALL costs. Such is the mentality of those who praise vermin like Obummer and this CRIMINALLY INSANE administration.
    Frankly, it is the SAME mentality that brought into power in WWII GERMANY the semihuman plague named Hitler. HOW is it possible that ANYONE can find ways not to see what they MUST see?
    Are they afraid to admit that they made a mistake? Are they so EVIL that they act like they’ve signed a CONTRACT to protect Obummer and his minions? In law, those who aid and abet crime are also GUILTY.
    When someone like Holder is in law enforcement, hesitation is your worst enemy, and it will come back to haunt you. In Holder’s case, it’s like giving a gun and a badge to Al Capone.
    Spread the word to all corners of America. We have a wannabe felon who’s disguised as the Attorney General. He is a disgrace to the legal profession, and he thinks nothing of using weapons to destroy our constitutional rights.
    He is, in fact, a new breed of criminal. He is the spawn of generations of self-made scum who will say and do ANYTHING to get what they want.
    To combine law and the power that goes with it to destroy a nation from within begs the need for a new category of TREASON. Is this the reputation that America’s wannabe utopians would give America?
    Are they any better than Holder? Holder must GO, and all who support him MUST GO!

    • Duffy1949

      sc
      Amen,Amen, Amen. In addition, Obummer,Biden,Pelosi,Reid and many more should be ousted.This country is rapidly failing and if the same players get re-elected, we’re DOOMED.

    • MNIce

      sc, the word you’re looking for is “sociopath” – one who literally has no conscience, but is only concerned about his personal ambitions and gratifications.

      I’m not sure this completely applies, rather there is a related phenomenon, the self-righteous leader who rationalizes anything he does as being for the good of the whole of the people he serves. Such people often become famous, but not in a good way since they are often tyrants. Examples perhaps include Pol Pot, Mao Tse-tung, Adolf Hitler, and Vladimir Lenin.

  • http://charter howe

    The Senate Democrats voted for an Internet takeover by the FCC CZAR last week. President Obama said that if the net nuetrality bill was passed to stop the govt takeover of the Internet, he would veto it. Several democrats who do not want the govt takeover voted to kill the bill anyhow to eliminate Obama’s involvement to veto the bill. OK lets make a note here, health care is govt controlled, so is student loans, communications and regulation of all the countries finances and a huge drive to disarm law abiding citizens using the United Nations Global Ban that Hillary is working on for the President. Duffy49 is right, I pray that we have a normal election in 2012 and WE THE PEOPLE can vote these commie criminals out of office.

  • Ms Skwerl E Muckenfutch

    Well, at least there was a bright side….bacon. Delicious, tasty, non-government approved bacon.

  • SMSgt Z (ret) Nam 68

    Ben

    Again you failed to enlighten and you facts;sorry lack of facts was total and all encompassing.The Occupy Rally I attended was attended with real Americans who have jobs and demand change
    OK wing nuts start the name calling now

    • Karolyn

      They don’t want to hear the truth – only what their gurus feed them.

    • lazor1

      lol SMSgt Z (ret) Nam 68, the changes they are demanding if they got their way would eliminate their jobs. at least when the tea party have rallies they clean up after themselves, unlike any demorat group who always leave a mess, raped women, molotive cocktails, pooped on flags, std’s urine,head and body lice. injured police, and princess nancy says god bless em

      • s c

        lazor1, I make it a habit to ‘monitor’ certain responders. More and more, I can’t help having the feeling that the character two slots above your response is a “poser.” The language is WAY too far to the left, and I know damned few vets who would use that programmed ‘language.’
        Add to that some fuzzy sentence structure, and I think we have yet another utopian who’s trying to act the part of someone who “cares” about America.

      • eddie47d

        We look at SC as a poser for the right in her copy and paste comments. The Sgt has been around for awhile so get use to a little competition. This isn’t the SC site for only you sweetie!

        • http://naver samurai

          Now you know they monitor certain language on this site, ed-duh. You sometimes the words offensive remark/comment removed on this site. Couldn’t this be somewhat monitoring? I could be wrong, but this is just my opinion. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          P.S. Another personal attack again, I see. SSDD eh ed-duh?

          • eddie47d

            I see you never question SC’s personal attacks. Protecting your own by chance? So much hypocricy so little time time to point them all out!

          • http://naver samurai

            I will admit to making personal attacks, but they are not as many as I used to post, along with my language improving. You, on the other hand, have gone in the opposite direction. So who is the hypocrate now? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • JeffH

          …and you eddie remain the board liberal harpy parrot…Polly want a cracker? baaarrraaakkkk!

          eddie the repeating parrot… the most obedient bird you can buy! Just tell him any phrase, and he repeats it back to you. Interrogates suspects with double ineffectiveness! eddie comes with his own hanging perch, batteries not included.

          • http://naver samurai

            Is he the bird or the stain the bird makes on the windshield as it flies by? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • http://naver samurai

      There will be some “real change” by voting Obama bin Laden out next year. Remember January 20, 2013 is Obama bin Laden’s last day in office. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Jay

        Obama is Bush with a sun tan!

    • Joe H.

      Gee Sarge,
      If they have jobs, then how do they spend all that time at the protests???? I know, they just fly in for the weekend, right??? Tea time and all that stuff doncha know!!!!! You need to perform that rectal labotomy!!!! In other words you need to remove your cranium from your rectal orifice!!!

      • http://naver samurai

        Ha, h, ha, ha! I sware you crack me up. Maybe the sarge hasn’t taken his meds today. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Jack

    Get the names, addresses and ssn’s of each OWS protester. Divide the cost of: Police, Fire, Sanitation etc. etc., by their numbers, wherever they gather. Send them the bill. Might take a month or so, but you will be left with a group of people whoes very presents and actions, at a rally, will be indefensable, even by the leftist LSM. It will go away. Then we can get back to removing Hussein and Holder.

  • perkedup

    did you all hear about the budding romance between US and Austrailia? Hot stuff…. read aussie papers.

  • Buck

    Don’t be so hard on Holder , he is just following the bosses orders !

  • Jay

    While promising Hope and Change, obama’s real promise is clearly being translated as HopelessCorruption!

  • http://deleted Claire

    Holder should be thrown out of office. He knew what was going on, how could he not know. He should go to Chicago and be with his buddy Rahm. He would “fit” in with that crowd. Better yet, put him on the border and make him be a border patrol agent. It is way past that time we got some honest folk in these positions. He disgusts me.

    • http://naver sook young

      I agree with you Claire. My husband and I have brought home a german shepheard puppy and she is very cute. How are your dogs? Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

      • http://deleted Claire

        sook young–Glad to hear you have a puppy. She will be a lot of fun, and you both will enjoy her. Dogs are man’s best friend. I am glad I have all my dogs, they sure make me smile in these trying times. I have my girl and boy entered at the show in southern Illinois in December. Hope we win.

        • http://naver sook young

          I also hope your dogs win. We’ve decided to name our puppy fluffy. My husband wanted to name her Michelle, but I didn’t think the name would fit. Thank you.

          Sook Young
          Wife of the Samurai

          • http://deleted Claire

            sook young–Sure wish I could post pictures of my dogs for everyone to see. Fluffy sounds nice. It is fun to pick their call names.

          • Joe H.

            sook young,
            If you two love the pup like I know you will, it will give you years of enjoyment, love, and loyalty. My Sam drives me nuts at times but when he gets cold, he’s right on my lap!!!! We had a neighbors Dobie get loose and when it came into our yard, it was a little threatening, growling at me and my buddy. Sam was out there and even though the dobie was about four times his size, he was gonna protect me at all costs!!! That’s loyalty! I had my hands full holding the little fella back!!!

          • http://naver sook young

            Thank you for the story Joe H. I’ve only had fluffy less than a week and she has already ripped apart a pair of my husbands socks. I had to pick her up because my husband was talking about mystery meat for dinner. I know he likes fluffy, but he doesn’t like her chewing up his socks. Good luck on your dogs doing a good job at the show, Claire. Happy Thanksgiving to you and everyone.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

  • Jay

    Eustace Mullins – Who Rules Your Rulers?

    http://vimeo.com/16602293

    • m_c_hill

      Jay,

      Mullins may well define an alliance of forces that exhists, but never questions WHY. Perhaps you need to consider that the organizations may not be aligned to the detriment of the American Citizenry, but might more accurately be defined as an alliance to defend religious and personal freedom. Some of your time should be spent investigating who stands Opposing this alliance.

      http://thereligionofpeace.com/

      You may be satisfied that the Christians started the first crusade. Islam built their mosque on the Temple Mount, and invaded and controlled much of africa and Europe, well before the first ‘Crusade’. was launched.

      The Islamisist have their own plans for a NWO, and there is little room in it for U.S.A. Their definitions of personal property, and individual rights is diametrically opposed to my own, even if not yours.

      The Islamisist claim to bear no ‘grudge’ against other religions, and at the same time claim they have no ‘right’ to exist.

      • Jay

        Well m_c_hill, i do appreciate your effort. However, i do recognize zionist propaganda when i read it! Notwithstanding the reality of the radical fringe, and that, in all religions, Christianity included, that can be wielded by the unscrupulous for nefarious purposes, your assertion that the organizations may not be aligned to the detriment of the American Citizenry, but might more accurately be defined as an alliance to defend religious and personal freedom, if i understand you correctly, seems contradictory at best. If what you are saying is that, the western alliance is embroiled in the middle-east for the purpose to defend religious and personal freedom here, and around the world, than my response to you would be that, you sir, are either sufficiently propagandized, or you are purposely trying to mislead. Please explain to me why here, in our own country, the State, including all governments throughout the West, for decades now, have been waging a war on Christianity and personal freedom, and undeniably, with the intent to not only eradicate Christianity and liberty from public life, but more insidiously, from the consciousness of their own people! With this in mind, are we to believe that the western alliance/coalition’s true intent, with respect to its imposition in the middle-east is for the purpose to defend, and safe-guard liberty, and religious freedoms? Actually, i do understand correctly what you are saying, however, i must strenuously disagree! How is it that you cannot recognize the blatant hypocrisy, here, on our own soil, of the very ones who claim to be champions of liberty, and religious freedom abroad, while at the same time depriving their own citizens of the very same? No sir, you are not deluded. However, i will grant you the benefit of the doubt, and point to your true intent with respect to your missal. Nice try!

        • m_c_hill

          Sir, I do not feel that is what I meant by my message, or that my message was my complete thoughts on the subject. I feel too many assume because the Zionist stand against the Islamisist that this conversly means that we have been manipulated into standing beside them against against their enemy. This is a common enemy to the entirety of Western Civilization and all religions not Islam; it is a real and present danger.

          If you paid attention to the link I chose it was to point out that this Islamisist attack is worldwide against 5 differen major religions including people of Islam that are not on the same ‘hate’ page.

          I am saying that if you ignore that, and you think any kind of placation is going to seperate us from their Zionist enemies and put us on the side of their friends after that; then you are the one mistaken.

          The enemy of the Islamisists by their own definition is anyone and anything that is not of Islam, and includes any that are of the Islamic faith that are in any way agreeable to be tolerant of anyone that is not of Islam.

          There may well be moderate Islamics, But they are an anathema to the Islamisist. The Islamisist will not stop untill you and I are dead or Islamic.

          The same can not be said for the Zionist. The zionist wishes to preserve and potect an Israeli State, not run the world. They may well try to control as much of the world as they can to achieve that goal, and there are certainly ‘powerful’ zionist constituents. The
          end goal of Zionist is to preserve and protect Israel, not to kill you or I, and I put that in a whole different classification.

          There are other NWO organizations you should be trully worried about.

          The zionists are not responsible for this country teetering on the brink of chaos. You need to place that responsibility on the Politicians this country has chosen since WW2 and before. Before WW2 facism was an attractive option to too many Americans – Hitler demonstrated the evil side of that program, and many Americans thereafter had a shor affair with Communist Ideals. USSR finally demonstrated that a failed system also. If anything the Zionist have steered us to the middle and stability. A strong and faith based America is the only Ally they can count on to stand beside Israel.

          Central banks are an unfortunate aspect of the push to One World Government, unfortunately in another wrongheaded decision by US Americans made attractive with the false notion that Interdepencency would sponser cooperation and peace.

          The unfortunate truth about Central Banks is they create a larger pool of money and credit. The country(politicians) have borrowed too much from the pool in the false assumption that economies always expand and that we will always be able to pay back any amount.

          If that sounds familiar it is the same bubble and burst cycle you see in the housing market. Government politicians refused to let the bubble burst, they are the ones that allowed the bundling of bad assets into bad paper sold to banks, Wall Street, and aroung the world.

          Now the world is in the shape it is because the politicians refused to let the bubble burst and mortgage lending to reset to a sane level.

          No conspiracy needed, just stupid self interrested politicians.

  • bob wire

    Sunday Night, nice weekend, ate and drank too much ~ I’m getting so big I can now actually wear jeans big enough I can actually get my hands in the pockets!

    I’m looking for any up side to 63 that I can find!

    Like Palin’s dad observation, ~ they are not retreating , just reloading. They will be back. This ain’t over yet.

    nite ~bw

  • wayne

    i can give you one reason not to vote ron paul in , HE FIN INSANE giving him the white house , is like giving ur 15 yr old the keys to your brand new bentley , NOT and ben flippin halarious , keep it up , great job

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