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Election 2012: How The Winner Will Destroy America

November 6, 2012 by  

Election 2012: How The Winner Will Destroy America
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The United States has suffered through hollow and uninspired elections over the past several decades. One might think that at some point long ago the American public would have finally struck a plateau of disenfranchisement, that we could sink no further into despondency and that there is a saturation limit to the corruption of our voting process. Unfortunately, that is not the case.

In all honesty, I have never seen more people gut jumbled and disgusted with our electoral system than I have in 2012. Sure, there is still a hyper-gullible segment of the populace that continues to play the game; but even those idiots are beginning to admit that the choices offered are dismal at best and catastrophic at worst. The fog of the false left/right paradigm is starting to lift. In its wake are lost, wide-eyed, flabbergasted followers without a coattail or a talking point to cling to. Sudanese refugees have a better chance of survival than those people do.

Even in the more obvious of fraudulent past elections there was at least an attempt by the establishment to present a pageant of conflicting ideologies (George W. Bush vs. John Kerry comes to mind). There has always been the Democrat who pretends to be anti-war, the Republican who pretends to be small government, the Democrat who pretends to defend our right to privacy, or the Republican who pretends to be pro-2nd Amendment. But in 2012, even the theater of rhetoric has disappeared. Both major party candidates seem to be sharing the same teleprompter.

So now, the average American is asking a new set of questions. He does not wonder how these men will change things for the better. Not at all. Instead, he wonders which one will do less damage while in office. This is the terrible reality we have come to understand in our society today. It is a sad awakening, but a necessary one.

As you read this, the new President of the United States is being “chosen” or has been chosen. Whoever the “winner” happens to be is ultimately irrelevant. He does not count.

The candidates are mascots — middle-management cronies running through the motions to distract the masses while enacting the policies of their superiors. They are fry cooks serving greasy, overpriced democracy with no real sustenance.

What does matter, though, is what comes next. I’m sorry to say that the idea that one man will do less damage than the other is a naïve sentiment. Whether Democrat Barack Obama or Republican Mitt Romney wins, the crimes and calamities wrought will be exactly the same.

Take a look into my crystal ball and see the future. Here is how the winner will destroy America:

He Will Continue The Policy Of Dollar Devaluation     

Neither candidate has expressed any interest in protecting the value of our currency, and both candidates have supported steps toward quantitative easing and fiat printing in order to delay an inevitable national debt crisis. Both Romney and Obama have sung the praises of Ben Bernanke and the private Federal Reserve despite the consistent failures of that despotic institution to produce any tangible economic results with its Keynesian methods.

Over the next four years, the dollar will see a vast devaluation and a loss of world reserve status, leading to stagflation (a combination of the worst elements of deflationary and inflationary crises in the same event). Skyrocketing prices and crumbling unemployment will be the highlights of the winner’s Presidency, because he will never take measures to reign in or dismantle the primary root cause of the problem: the Federal Reserve itself.

He Will Continue Extreme Government Debt Spending

Neither candidate has offered a practical or operable solution to the $16 trillion official national debt problem we now face, let alone the tens of trillions of dollars in entitlement obligations that the Treasury Department never talks about. A nation can live off food stamps and credit for only so long before it implodes like a wet paper sack. We have become a nation of debt addicts and money hounds searching for our next fix of foreign or central bank cash.

The fact is: Both Obama and Romney would increase spending while using fiat injections to buttress an ever-weakening economy in the name of “stability.” The new President will claim that if spending cuts are initiated, it will send the U.S. financial system into a tailspin and a “return” to recession conditions. (Of course, that will be a lie. We have not left recession/depression conditions since 2008.)

He Will Support And Expand Wars In The Mideast

There is no such thing as a mainstream anti-war candidate in 2012 — not even a fake one. Obama’s measures of state violence and complete lack of respect for the sovereign internal matters of foreign nations surpass the madness of George W. Bush. Obama has even gone so far as to assert that his office has the right to assassinate American citizens without trial, evidence or due process of the law. Not only has he asserted the right to this power, he has used it. Romney’s position, hilariously, is that Obama has not gone far enough. Either way, the winner is going to leap like a vile locust into new countries and unleash a plague of laser-guided death. The next President will be a war-hungry President.

He Will Lock Down The Web And Limit Internet Speech

Both Romney and Obama have expressed a desire to establish cybersecurity measures that include vast new governmental authority over the functions and operations of the Internet. The ultimate goal? To gain legal precedence for the right to dictate Web content, up to and including the ability to label any website a subversive threat to national security or a recruitment tool for “extremists.”

With the establishment spreading completely baseless accusations of cyberthreats coming from every corner of the globe (but mostly from Iran), it would seem that they are conditioning the public for a future encounter with a cyberevent and telling them whom to blame when it occurs. The problem is that the most prominent cybersecurity threats to the Internet in the past few years have come not from the Mideast, Russia or China, but the United States and Israel. (Remember Stuxnet?) Keep this in mind when our new President blames the next cyberattack on a convenient political target and then uses the event as an excuse to regulate the Web.

He Will Erase American Civil Liberties

The next President will find or create a reason to diminish Constitutional protections, including our right to trial and due process. Both candidates have offered unflinching support for the National Defense Authorization Act and its provisions for indefinite detainment. Neither man has ventured any concerns over the broad nature of the language involved in the labeling of “terrorists” and “extremists.” Literally anyone can now be categorized as an enemy combatant and a threat to national security for almost any reason, and that appears to be the way Obama and Romney like it. That is to say, they both want totalitarian powers; or, at the very least, they have made no effort to turn them down.

It is important to note that there has never been a government in history that sought out such powers and did not actually use them. Only a fool would assume his favorite elitist candidate in 2012 will not use the extreme authorities now amassed for the executive branch over the past decade.

He Will Embrace A Globalist Dynamic And Abandon American Sovereignty

Both Obama and Romney are surrounded by “advisers” who are also members of the Council On Foreign Relations — an institution that, on a regular basis, openly calls for the dissolution of American sovereignty and the creation of a centralized global system dominating the financial, social and political life of every nation in the world. With the economic stability of the United States on the verge of oblivion, it is very likely that a historic crisis will ensue during the next President’s and that he will respond by suggesting a new global system as the solution.

This system has already been created, in part, by the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank in concert with member governments. It revolves around the issuance of a new world reserve currency (Special Drawing Rights) as the centerpiece. I can guarantee with absolute certainty that the next President will promote an IMF rescue package coupling the dollar to the SDR and turning over full economic control of America to an international body. He will make it sound rational, reasonable and even advantageous; but, in the end, he will be selling the globalist snake oil he was conscripted to sell before his election campaign ever started.

In 2012, it will not be about voting. It will not be about winning. It will not even be about getting to the next election. It will be about survival. As big a joke as the 2012 elections have become even to the generally unaware, I am not laughing. I do not need to look at the promises of either candidate. I do not need to weigh their half-assed quick-fix policies. All I have to do is look at the current downward trend and understand that the President, whoever he is, will continue it.

If anything is to truly change, it will be because we, as Americans, finally walk away from the game, enacting our own solutions and our own opposition instead of handing over our power every four years to sniveling errand boys wrapped in flags, expensive suits and self-righteousness. This election will mark the beginning of upheaval and renewal for better or for worse. It is certain that the next guy in the White House, Republican or Democrat, is going to be a part of the problem — nothing more.

– Brandon Smith

Brandon Smith

is the founder of the Alternative Market Project, an organization designed to help you find like-minded activists and preppers in your local area so that you can network and construct communities for barter and mutual aid. Join Alt-Market.com today and learn what it means to step away from the unstable mainstream system and build something better. You can contact Brandon Smith at: brandon@alt-market.com

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  • http://ladychf@att.net Harriet Brown

    You are giving your opinion to many people and they may be weak enough to believe you.
    the truth is that Mr.Bush put us in the position we are in now. No one could turn this around in 4yrs. The Republicans are the reason we have problems that we find ourselves in. Nixon open the trade with China and cost us jobs. Then Bush put the nail in the coffin. When Clinton left office our economy was very strong. The reason I know that is because my investments made money. I was worth 1.5 and when Bush left office I was worth 9 hundred thousant if I was 20-25yrs old I could make it back but I am 69 and retired and I have to live off this income for the rest of my life. Obama may not have fixed everything but at least we are moving in the right direction. Romney would take us back to the Bush years and I can’t afford that. It would have Jesus Christ to fix it all and President Obama is a man.

    • Vicki

      “the truth is that Mr.Bush put us in the position we are in now.”

      My my my. You would think that by now the liberal would have found someone/thing new to blame for the democrat total failure to lead. With full control of government from Jan 2009 to Jan 2011 and all we got was obamacare, no budget and lots more debt but still the liberal blames President Bush.

      Sad.

      • James Andrews

        You hit it right on the nose Vicki! But don’t worry……when the poop truly hits the fans, we the people will still be in charfge. Remember; these crooks work for US! America is also well armed, for the most part. We must alsays make sure it stays like that as well. Never support anti-gun rights politicians! Our founding forefathers put the Second Amendment into our Bill of Rights for this very reason-so that we the people can defend ourselves against our own corrupt government, should they turn on us. They were extremely brilliant men!

      • Flashy

        One has to laugh every time a TPer comes back moaning about Bush still being blamed for where this nation is at today. Piled up debt, wrecked the financial markets, destroyed alliances and international goodwill, overburdened the military, burdened the Middle Class with taxation, debt, and socialized the risk while privatizing corporate gain. gave us a country on the abyss of falling off the economic cliff into a Depression, losses of almost 1 million jobs a month, stock market falling like a rock, major manufacturers about to be sold off leaving us with heavy manufacturing totally off shore, regulatory and security agencies totally politicized, ineffective, and riddled with corruption, … and this is all to be ‘fixed” and negated in three and a half years …all with the extreme Right fighting every inch of the way to stop any reform and “fixes” …

        But…but…the Dems were in control of Congress the last two years! Is the oft repeated cry…ignoring the lie within. Think..elections in ’06. Congress takes it’s seat in ’07…the crash begins autumn of ’07 and rolls into Big time early ’08. leaving any Congress taking its seat in january ’07 a mere 7 months to “fix” what is already in place and rolling.

        Folks…no matter how you spin it…this administration has done a darn good job repairing the disaster wrought by the GOP extremists during their time in power. The budget deficits were ALREADY IN PLACE when this administration’s budgets began to take effect in ’10. The freefall in unemployment had to be halted before being reversed…one cannot stop an ocean liner and turn it on a dime. Federal spending has flatlined during this administration. Employment numbers coming back. Under any measure, in any field…we are far better today than in ’09 when President Obama took office.

        Under any measure.

        Yet, to the extremists, they yell and scream nonsensical rantings. Ask them for specifics? naw….they have none. Cut the budget, slash the spending, eliminate agencies! that’s the hue and cry. OK….with sequestration looming and immediate and draconian cuts ahead if nothing done, is that not what the extremists desire? An immediate drop in GDP of up to 2%? Sending this nation straight into another Great Recession? No…is the answer. just those programs which hit the Middle Class. But which ones? how much? What about the ramifications ? No answer…

        That is the problem with giving the extremists any respect for their views. They lack specifics…as in, they have none. no alternatives. None.

        So if y’all want to criticize where we are today…then come up with specifics. Accurate ones. Not the faked hype and lies usually accompanying the rantings.

        Otherwise, get off to the side, play with yourselves and mutter about ‘dark conspiracies’, and let the People rebuild what you wrecked.

      • deerinwater

        Life is about how you react to it Vicki ~ Bush as the nations leader directed us as a nation of people to go down a wrong path. ~ by giving into the lowest common denominator of mankind, “revenge” fostered from the events of 9-11. This revenge was exploited with war profiteering and serve the geopolitical purposes of globalist not to mention the military complex and all the Hawks.

        Extracting justice from a few men, ~ you don’t attack whole nations. With all the surgical warfare devices are our disposal, ~ Bush overrode top military bass advice and used a sledgehammer.

        Bush surrounded himself with with “YES MEN” ~ none what might shine brighter then himself ~ and without question was one of the worst world leaders we have experienced in many decades.

        History will never shine bright on W, Bush, no matter how much you attempt to defend him Vicki.

        The Bush administration opened Pandora Box, ~ and the events of this continue to unfold today.

        You can thank W Bush for scattering Islam all over the world at record speed as Muslims flee their homes in fear of what has been unleashed.

        You can thank W. Bush for two protracted unfunded wars that offer America no material gains for their investment. of 7 trillion dollars and cost the live of 9,700 Coalition Forces, not to mention arms, legs, eyes and skin.

        Whatever you say , whatever you elect to believe Vicki, will not change these facts.

      • Chester

        Well, miss Vicki, if Mr. Bush didn’t do ALL of it, he most certainly did do most of it. Mr. Obama DID stop the landslide toward universal unemployment we were in, and even got it somewhat turned around. Sorry if that doesn’t fit your preconceived notions of what that no good black man in the head office has done, but it most assuredly is a factual statement. GM is up and running, AND making money, and the same is true for Chrysler, there are a LOT of teachers, city police officers, and other state and local employees who did NOT lose jobs, all thanks to Obama and his efforts. Granted, it took some help from a not totally divided congress to get all this done, but it has been done, and done fairly well. Sorry you don’t like it, but is truth.

      • Steve E

        There we go again with the liberal mantra, blaming Bush. Got anything intelligent to say? You libs sound like the same broken record.

      • Reykool

        There are still idiots, members of the BUSH Fan club ,naive enouth to believe in the LIBERAL / CONSERVATIVE , (Left/right) paradigm,playing the blame game the same way the Obama Fan Club do….America is a managed centrally planned economy much like the old Soviet Union,with the Federal Reserve taking over the role of the Politburo and it did not start with Obama or Bush. The fact is, The US stopped to be a democracy using free marcket capitalism a long time ago, America is in fact a CORPORATIST OLIGARCHY…. so keep blaming each other ! that is exactly what the Corporate ruling elite want you to do : THE BEST SLAVE IS THE SLAVE WHO THINKS HE IS FREE.

      • DaveH

        Flashman says — “One has to laugh every time a TPer comes back moaning about Bush still being blamed for where this nation is at today”.
        Actually, we laugh when a multi-personalitied, lying, plagiarizing, Liberal Progressive shill who has been proven over and over again to have no credibility, still has the temerity to issue forth his useless comments.
        Yes, Flashman, I’m talking about you.
        Ask me to prove your lack of credibility, Flashman.

      • Flashy

        Predictably, DaveH attacks personally because he has nothing of value. not even a Mises link to an article you never read and, if you ever did, not understand?

      • Goodwater

        Mr. Andrews – The American people are not in charge. Oh sure, we vote to elect our representative but when they arrive in the Beltway the elites statist have already prepared the laws that will be passed. Who are the elite statist – the members of the Bildebergs, the Council of Foreign Relations, the Tri-Latereral Commission, the Wall street Bankers, the Trade unions, the Teacher Unions which indoctrinate our children with the International Baccalaureate Curriculum, the Farm Bureau (big Agri conglomerates), the Federal Reserve, the National Chamber of Commerce, the Senators and Representatives who have made it a career and have been in office than 25 years+, the K-Street lobbyists, the One-World-Government proponents (Google Point of View and then type in Agenda 21 in the webpage Search). This is just the partial list that controls Washington- We the People have no influence on what goes one in Washington.

      • DaveH

        Chester says — “Mr. Obama DID stop the landslide toward universal unemployment we were in, and even got it somewhat turned around”.
        Disclaimer: I didn’t like Bush when he was President, and still don’t, but guess what? He isn’t President anymore. And Obama makes him look like a saint.
        Some truth:
        Employment totals when Obama took office (Jan 2009) — 133,561,000
        Employment totals in June 2012 (latest actual figures) — 133,436,000
        For those who can’t do simple arithmetic, that is a 125,000 loss of jobs since Obama took office.
        And he has spent Trillions to “stimulate” the economy:
        http://padminiarhant.com/?p=2024

        Wouldn’t it have been more cost-effective (although still wrong-headed) if he just distributed that money to each and every American? For those who can’t work with big figures $2 Trillion (total stimulus under Obama) is about $6500 per person, or $20,000 per average family in the US.
        Why didn’t they do that instead of doling it out to their Crony Capitalists? The answer is obvious. They (Politicians, Crony Capitalists) are taking advantage of the rest of us.

      • DaveH

        Flashman says — “Predictably, DaveH attacks personally because he has nothing of value”.
        Again Flashman proves his lack of credibility.
        Anybody, who takes the time to read my typical comments and to read Flashman’s typical comments, knows that the amount of factual intelligent content of my comments far exceeds that of Flashman’s comments.
        The so-called “personal attacks” were simple fact, provable fact, which is why Flashman never takes me up on my challenges to ask me to prove what I say about him. He knows that I can do it.
        Here is just one example of his depravity. He plagiarizes somebody else’s work about snipers, but it turns out that the original author based his article on the ignorant research of an assistant who couldn’t find any real snipers to interview, so instead talked to some guys at a gun club. My guess is that they either were ignorant blowhards, or they were purposely messing with the researcher.
        Follow the whole thread for complete exposure of Flashman’s depravity:
        http://personalliberty.com/2012/01/25/your-choice-ron-paul-or-a-wheelbarrow/#comment-517886

      • Jeff
        • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

          JEFF what about the trade deficit that Obama said he was going to fix the flawed Clinton trade Policy , this he was able to use effectively against Hillary to replace her as the democratic candidate in 2008 , and he has just continued the same policy and debt that only declined because the GDP depression he has done nothing about is Now back in his Campaign Rhetoric like was in his 2008 rhetoric so HOW CAN WE TRUST OBAMA WILL FOLLOW THROUGH THIS TIME WITH MAKING THIS CHANGE ???

      • Smilee

        Steve E says:
        November 6, 2012 at 7:54 am

        There we go again with the liberal mantra, blaming Bush. Got anything intelligent to say? You libs sound like the same broken record.

        It is not a liberal mantra it is simply the truth, Bush created the mess for the most part as he stood back and did nothing to prevent it and as far as saying got anything intelligent to say, you should look in the mirror there you will see the real lack of intelligence.

      • Steve E

        Smilee, If you want to blame Bush of the past, let’s not stop there. Let’s go all the way back to Adam and Eve…If Eve had never ate that damn apple…It make only sense in your logic.

      • Nobody’s Fool

        Vicki, all they have is Blame Bush. oBlamer has no ideas other than to destroy everything in their path–everything that is American–and then say, “Bush did it!!” They are nothing but losers, but unfortunately they have foisted upon us all their “loserness” and our freedoms have gone out the window. I’m now pulling for the Mayan Calendar to be right and to end it all on Dec. 21. But just in case that is true, I am moving my birthday up a week. Send money.

      • Mary

        This seems to be the latest attack on the left. Turn everything around that the right did and blame it on the Democrats. We have seen it time and again coming from Romney in his campaign speeches. The truth is, Bush did screw up the country and not just financially, and the truth is, it could not have been fixed in four years. The truth is the Republican Congress agreed and refused to work with the President because they were ticked off he won the election. As stated by SC Senator DeMint (R) the number one goal of the Republican party was to make sure Obama failed and would not be re-elected. The truth is these people are as un-American as one can get. In the past, when the duly elected President won, we all accepted it and worked together. If the country fails, it will be for this reason. The truth is, the Tea Party Conservative party was formed out of bigots who suddenly wished to “take back their country” when the black man got into office, yet they sat on their rear ends just watching Bush and his thugs lead us into a war they lied about. The truth is the majority of Americans want healthcare reform. The truth is Obama has done much to help Americans and keep us safe. The truth is the right wing propaganda machine has lied and twisted the truth to discredit our duly elected President. And the truth is Romney has changed his stand on almost every important issue and has lied more than any candidate in history. The truth is many Americans would rather have Romney in office than a black man. The truth is we have come a long way in this country but many are still bigots and self rightious conservatives who wish to destroy the freedoms of those who do not share their ideology. The truth is many self called Christians are anything but. The God they profess to believe in will be their judge.

      • http://yahoo Charles Arthur Williams

        Vicki: The Democrats didn’t have complete control for 2 years ! At the end of 09 one Senator changed to Ind. So the Democrats lost the Super Majority in the Senate which opened it up so the Republican’s could use Filabuster’s ! Then Republican’s set records for using Filabuster’s the last 3 years !

        • Jeff

          The supermajority was a misnomer anyway. The Democrats overachieved in 2006 and 2008, winning seats in largely Republican states and districts. Those democrats were more conservative than most and were not automatic votes for Obama policies. The Senate could have passed anything Obama wanted with probably 55 votes, but under the McConnell Rule 55 votes aren’t enough to pass anything. I wish they’d at least bring back true fillibusters so these [comment edited] like McConnell and Jeff Sessions would be forced to read from the Bible or the phone book just like their hero Strom used to do.

      • Robert Smith

        Steve says: ” You libs sound like the same broken record.”

        That’s right. The FACTS haven’t changed. Bush put America into the dumper. It’s that simple.

        Rob

      • http://yahoo Charles Arthur Williams

        Steve E: You may want to blame Eve, but she didn’t know, It was Adam that was told by God not to eat from the tree. So it was Adam that caused the fall of man !

        • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

          “Steve E: You may want to blame Eve, but she didn’t know, It was Adam that was told by God not to eat from the tree. So it was Adam that caused the fall of man !”

          If you want to get technical, it was G-ds fault. He’s the one that grew the tree.

      • ssgrick

        Actually Vicki the democrats were in control of the house and Senate as of 2006 they gained super-majorities in 2008. Bush had to fight Reid and Piglosi for the last two years of his Presidency. Here’s a complete breakdown of what happened and for you liberal non-believers, well you can obtain this information from the Congressional Record.

        REMEMBER JANUARY 3, 2007
        The day the Democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009, it was actually January 3rd 2007, the day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, at the very start of the 110th Congress.
        The Democratic Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.
        For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is “Bush’s Fault”, think about this:
        January 3rd, 2007, the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress:
        The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
        The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
        The Unemployment rate was 4.6%
        George Bush’s Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION!
        Remember that day…
        January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee.
        The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy?
        BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!
        THANK YOU DEMOCRATS (especially Barney ) for taking us from 13,000 DOW, 3.5 GDP and 4.6% Unemployment…to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES!
        (BTW: Bush asked Congress 17 times to stop Fannie & Freddie – starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy). Barney blocked it and called it a “Chicken Little Philosophy” (and the sky did fall!)
        And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? OBAMA
        And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie?
        OBAMA and the Democrat Congress, especially BARNEY!!!!
        So when someone tries to blame Bush…
        REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007….THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!”
        Bush may have been in the car but the Democrats were in charge of the gas pedal and steering wheel they were driving the economy into the ditch.
        Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democratic Party.
        Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 & 2009 as well as 2010 & 2011.
        In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.
        For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budget.
        And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete 2009. Let’s remember what the deficits looked like during that period:
        If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.
        If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself.
        In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is “I inherited a deficit that I voted for,
        And then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th.”

      • Mike

        Actually, there was a Democrat majority in House and Senate from 2007 to 2011! So many forget to emphasize THIS IMPORTANT FACT!(so, don’t blame it on GW Bush).

      • Kate8

        Holy cow. The liberals are here in force today.

        You all seem to forget that many of our problems were put in place by Bill Clinton. They were just never implemented until Bush took office.

        I hate to tell you jokers, but the Bushes own ALL of them, including Obama. Clinton answered to them, Obama answers to them. Romney will answer to them. They all belong to the same controlling powers. I can’t believe how, with it all being right out in the open now, you Lefties still fail to see this.

        Tools and fools, every one of you.

        What a joke.

      • Steve E

        tlgeer and Charles Arthur Williams. So we can all agree that it was Adams fault and not Eve’s or Bush’s. But it was the woman that got Adam in trouble. That sounds like real life.

        • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

          No, I said that it was G-d’s fault for growing the tree. If he didn’t want them to eat from the tree of knowledge (nobody said it was an apple tree) he shouldn’t have made it.

      • Rick

        Don’t tell us that we have to find a new person to blame. You can’t change history…it is what it is! It was the Republicans fault for all this mess because of 2001 – 2009 under Bush.

      • Gary

        We need a leader who will support our troops and make America strong again.. Cut off those who don’t support the USA .. We don’t need a leader who is weak and un-American and Muslim.. Screw the Green Machine and get oil and coal back up and running again.. Obama had his chance and hasn’t done anything for America..

      • vicki

        Boy can you see the liberals and conservatives in this part of the thread :). For amusement why don’t you liberals tell us (with cites) which policies of President Bush were so evil and when did obama change them.

        Meantime, since the housing foreclosure crisis is most often pointed to as the cause of the financial meltdown lets look at this tidbit from the President Bush years.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzWrnUezDOU

        Note in particular (Around 4:00) who tried to stop the impending problem. And note who blocked it. Liberals probably want to avoid that link as it contains objectively verifiable facts.

      • JeffH

        Vicki, LMAO at all of the “stupid is as stupid does” crowd crowing their respones to your comment. There’s none so blind as those who will not see.

        Hitler was a terrible, evil person but he wasn’t stupid…he had a plan and I can see by the responses to your comment that a lot of people here would have made good little German’s too!

        Zig heil herr Obama!

      • Vicki

        And about this blame President Bush for the crisis. Lets see who else REALLY (as in factually) had a hand in creating the crisis.

        http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/090412-624522-obama-launched-subprime-crisis-with-lawsuit.htm?p=full

        Yep that really nice boy currently in the White House.

      • JeffH

        Tony, yep, that and a few others.

      • JeffH

        Jeff, you kill me sometimes with your ridicule of links from mises, FOX, Breitbart, etc, etc.

        What I have noticed is that you cling to the ultra progressive Think Progress, TPM and Media Matters as your “go to” sources.

        Now Jeff, who ‘ya really gonna believe for fair and balanced political info?

        It’s usually somewhere in between!

      • Vicki

        Jeff says:
        “The one thing that could stop him is the extraordinary suppression of the vote in swing states”

        Those darn republicans. How dare they stop the dead from voting.

        • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

          “How dare they stop the dead from voting.”

          Do you have any proof that the dead are voting? If so, what is it?

        • Jeff

          The people I’ve seen standing in endless lines waiting to vote looked quite alive to me.

          • http://www.facebook.com/martha.weems.1 Martha Weems

            I think Obama would say it’s not his fault they’re dead…it’s Bush’s! Sorry….I couldn’t
            help myself!

          • Jeff

            OBAMA WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Vicki

        JeffH says:
        “Vicki, LMAO at all of the “stupid is as stupid does” crowd crowing their respones to your comment.”

        What is also very amusing is the number of people who think that I actually approved of President Bush and his little wars. Just goes to show they really aren’t paying attention.

        One guy somewhere in this thread even dropped the race card on me. It failed of course. It is really hard to be racist against ones own race.

      • Vicki

        (tick tock, tick tock, tick…)

      • eddie47d

        The problem with that housing market video Vickie is that it was anti-Obama not pro-fact. Almost without exception the complete housing bubble was between 2005-2009 being the Bush years( 2005-Jan 2009). Obama was a junior Senator who couldn’t possibly have that much power within the Senate as your video stated. Because of that housing crises yes most of the foreclosures occurred under the Obama presidency. Not surprisingly they left out the Bush video telling Americans in 2005 he believes that home ownership should be encouraged.Nothing but a political propaganda film Vickie . Now tell us all how is Bear-Stearns doing? In other words Jeff H not much more than a Nazi (sieg heil) film meant to destroy Obama with cleaverly crafted snippets.

      • DaveH
      • Ana

        James, you are wrong. This will probably be the last free election in our lifetime. Obama is now going to rule by Fiat and use and use executive orders to subvert, or as he puts it, work around the Constitution.

        • Jeff

          So you’re saying this election WAS free? Meaning Obama could have lost? Why would he risk losing if he could have become a dictator just by desiring it?

      • Donna

        Hi Vicki, I think Harriet Brown and other liberal loons like her will always blame Bush. That’s become their MO. Now that we know BO has been re-elected, who are they going to blame for his past 4 years? Let me guess, Bush. PATHETIC!!!!

        • Jeff

          It’s not about blame, but most people recognize there are facts and then there’s bull[expletive deleted]. Regardless who was to blame, the economy was literally going off a cliff when Obama took office. Treasury Officials told Congressional leaders in September 2008 if they didn’t save the banks, we wouldn’t have an economy on Monday. Fortunately, there weren’t too many tea party types around, Congress acted, and we’re on the road to recovery. In order to maintain that recovery, some necessary regulations were put in place. I think we probably need more regulation a la the Securities Acts of 1933 and 1934 that became dated and were largely gutted in 1999.

          When FDR took office in 1933, no one held him responsible for the Depression because it had started 3 years earlier. When Obama took office, the Great Recession was just beginning so it’s easy for demagogues to “blame” Obama for everything bad that happened after he took office. The truth is the stimulus, while it should have been larger given the magnitude of the hole in demand, worked. It might have worked better if it hadn’t included so much in tax cuts included in a vein attempt to garner Republican support, but it worked. If you look at a graph showing employment gain/loss before and after Obama’s inauguration, the results are quite stark.

          Fortunately, enough of the voting public is smart enough not to buy the snake oil offered by Romney and Ryan, to wit: more tax cuts, more defense spending, more impoverishment of the poor and lower middle class. So, it’s not a question whether Bush was personally responsible for the 2008 Crash but whether we want to return to those pre-Crash policies. Fortunately, the voters said no. Now, the ball’s in Boehner’s court.

          • BR549

            Jeff commented on Election 2012: How The Winner Will Destroy America …. in response to Donna:”….. Regardless who was to blame, the economy was literally going off a cliff when Obama took office. Treasury Officials told Congressional leaders in September 2008 if they didn’t save the banks, we wouldn’t have an economy on Monday.”

            And when Bush took office, despite the “claimed” Clinton Surplus, once we factor out the switcheroo of intergovernmental holdings to preserve Clinton’s image, he actually left us further in the hole. Of course, Bush then made it worse, and Obama worse than him. It isn’t about what they inherited from each of their predecessors, it’s the fact that each of them has taken their marching orders to take this economy into the toilet, while at the same time using our military to support globalist foreign policy, NOT a sensible US foreign policy. So, if you keeping hearing that disturbing little voice saying, “nothing changes”, that’s why.

            Also, as far as the Romney/Ryan snake oil, you won’t get any argument from me. But what brand name did you find for Obama’s brand of snake oil?

          • Jeff

            You’ll have to explain how Obama made it worse. Even Romney had to back off that lie. You can claim he hasn’t brought the economy back quickly enough; you can’t say he made it worse when you consider where we were in January 09.

          • BR549

            Jeff stated: Jeff stated: “You’ll have to explain how Obama made it worse. Even Romney had to back off that lie.”

            Romney had to back off NOT because it was a lie, but because he would have been forced to explain WHY Obama had made it worse and, in the process, he would have exposed his own, and Obama’s involvement with Bilderberg, the Trilateral Commission, and the Council of Foreign Relations. He would not have been able to show that his platform could offer anything different than the same downward path that Obama was taking us down ……. AND ……. eventually that explanation would have people asking questions about which group of people ARE really calling the shots and, quite frankly, the elites have not wanted people being made aware of the big plan.

            On that same note, that was why Clinton blew up at a reporter one day when the reporter asked him about the FEMA detention camps. Remember, this was back in the ’90s, when far less of this material had been leaking out.

            All I can say, Jeffy, is that you better get with the program or you are going to be in for one HUGE surprise. This crap is going on all around you and under your nose, with OUR tax dollars, and people are still being mesmerized with Hope and Change, which was exactly why Obama was selected; his gift of oratory. He has that in spades, I’ll admit, but that was the only reason Rockefeller and that bunch pulled him out of the crowd …….. to lull people to sleep a little while longer, while they put everything further into motion.

        • Smilee

          Hi Vicki, I think Harriet Brown and other liberal loons like her will always blame Bush. That’s become their MO. Now that we know BO has been re-elected, who are they going to blame for his past 4 years? Let me guess, Bush. PATHETIC!!!!

          Bush did what he did and you cannot change that history by wishful thinking, he is guilty so why is it wrong to blame him, you blame those that are cleaning up after him whom did not cause it, how pathetic

      • Gordon

        GEEZ what a whiney bunch of piss pots. It’s no wonder this nation is in such a condition.

        The great social experiment of the 1960s has finally come to pass. The socialist revisionist history and the failure to TEACH children the basics of society and life has resulted in a bunch of whiney piss pots that will end up stealing food from their neighbors when the collapse comes. Thank GOD that you don’t live around here.

      • Gordon

        The bottom line is that youz spend valuable time trying to place blame than trying to fix the problem. The Japanese as a society are laughing at America.

      • http://Personallibertydigest Roland

        All you Kool aid drinkers are going to wake up one day & ask “what happened”? Where are my free-bee’s? And this new Kool aid, taste like crap, bitter! The whole political system is rotten, on both sides. But….., since 1997, the dem-o-rats controlled capital hill, & that’s when the spending spree started. We’re already in the new world order, most don’t realize it. Don’t believe me, what’s Hillary doing with the UN? Just one example. Folks, keep your powder dry, & may God have mercy on our souls!

        • Ana

          We can’t blame the left for this fiasco. They are to be commended. They got their people to the polls if they had to piggyback them all the way there. Our problem is with the right wing of the party. They refused to come out and vote for Romney.

      • Jeanie

        Vicki, yes, Bush made some errors but, the House and the Senate were in complete control and they are the ones that pushed the debt sky high. So, get off the Bush bashing…..the election is over…..your Obama is in office now…..try to straighten him out before it is too late. OK???

        • BR549

          Jeanie,
          Your response to Vicki, “Vicki, yes, Bush made some errors but, the House and the Senate were in complete control and they are the ones that pushed the debt sky high. So, get off the Bush bashing…..the election is over…..your Obama is in office now…..try to straighten him out before it is too late.”

          The real problem starts SOooo far back that most people can’t wrap their brain around it; even before the Revolutionary War. But ignoring most of the early the negative factors of the argument for the moment, 1973 seems to stand out. During the Nixon Administration, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and Cheney, were already together; GHW Bush would later come up through the sidelines and through the CIA in the mid ’70s. It was THIS GROUP that had been running the show under Reagan, while Reagan was busy waving his flags and denouncing communism. What Reagan apparently didn’t understand was that this group was already well on its way (since Nixon) to aligning the US for an eventual globalist takeover along the Chinese model of communism.

          Under Carter, we were sold on FEMA as being an agency to coordinate government agencies during emergencies, when it was subverted into coordinating control of the government itself. There is no one single party responsible for the mess we are in, since whichever president was in office, there was never resounding response from the legislature for impeachment. Whether Republican or Democrat, either the House and Senate members were complicit, like Sen. Daniel Inouye, in the cover-up, totally brain as many were, or intentionally denied information and kept in the dark if they did try to get to the bottom of it.

          Bush (both of them, actually) Clinton, Obama; they’re ALL in this, thick as thieves. Unfortunately, there is no straightening out Obama, since he isn’t the one calling the shots. His job was to sell this package to a gullible population, same as it was for the Bushes. We have natural resources, we have water, we have a population willing to work and yet what do we have? Successive legislatures and presidents have allowed the actual ownership of our resources to be sold to foreigners, TV stations to be owned by foreigners, our manufacturing base to be sent overseas …….. and all this was no mere, series of piss-poor managerial decisions; they were all intentional in order to eviscerate the US economy for a globalist takeover.

          It is why so many of our troops have been stationed around the globe, repeatedly, one conflict after another; to keep our personnel and resources occupied while the PTB keep sending in foreign UN troops into the US, on the sly, for the purpose of “training”.

          but I digress….

      • Tony Ruiz

        Bull pucky

      • Tony Ruiz

        No, you’re patently wrong and just another irrelevant voice

      • JJM

        Add – DemonRat Congressional control of both House and Senate from 2007 to 2011.

        • Ana

          You’re beating your head against the war. The libs don’t have the intellectual capacity to understand facts.

          • BR549

            Ana wrote: “The libs don’t have the intellectual capacity to understand facts.”

            Ana, you hit the nail on the head, only I have to say that they are counterbalanced by about as many pseudo-conservative Chicken Little supporters. No matter which party we are taking about of the CORRUPT TWO, the real issue is flat out IGNORANCE, because if these meatheads actually had any clue about what was going on under their noses, they wouldn’t vote for any of these clowns and our election process would take a whole new direction.

            As I said in an earlier post, we SHOULD all be in a state of mourning this week; even if Romney had won. All those people who are jumping up and down in the streets are absolutely CLUELESS what is about to happen.

          • Jeff

            Why don’t you inform us poor cave dwellers instead of speaking in riddles?

          • BR549

            Jeff stated: “Why don’t you inform us poor cave dwellers instead of speaking in riddles?”

            Not while you people are still hiding in your cave. Try coming out in the sunlight for a bit and get some understanding of what I others here have been talking about. Nothing personal, but it’s too dark in there and you can’t see anything.

            And remember one thing, Jeff, there are just as many people, who profess themselves to be “conservatives”, who are as much in the dark about what is happening, so this has nothing to do with party affiliations.

          • Jeff

            It may be that I’ve missed out on some of your earlier wisdom, but when I read your posts I see a lot of vague allusions to conspiracies involving the Rockefellers and the Bilderbergs. To quote Clara Peller, “Where’s the beef?”

      • http://www.robstgeorge.com Rob (StGeorge) Manwiller

        Isn’t it just amazing the amount and degree of ‘selective outrage’ the left-wing nutjobs have? It’s infinite! When America falls they’ll blame conservatives for THEIR ignorance. The lofty all-knowing left. What was our God thinking when he made the liberal mind? Oh,well, even God could a bad day during his creation.

      • Ron Christopher

        You cannot change his mind Vicki. The guy is an idiot. He fails to say that Bush had a democrat congress for the last two years of his administration. It was those democrats who killed the financial market beginning with the housing. It was the democrats who said, the poor have a right to a nice house even if they cannot pay for it. As far as Clinton goes, he had a republican congress.

      • http://www.facebook.com/ronald.christopher.393 Ronald Christopher

        You cannot change his mind Vicki. The guy does not know his history. Jimmy Carter started it and Clinton demanded it go further. Bush had a democrat congress and it was that congress who stated that all was well. That is when the financial market crashed and the housing development crashed. And let us not forget, it was the Congress who approved of Bush’s retaliation against those who blew up our towers. And obama attacked Libya without congress approval.

      • walter agard

        You have to look at the ROOT cause of the problem and how it started” The answer is Bush. OBAMA only did what he did to make people survive.What if he had abandon the auto industry.Do you ever think about that.there are more wonderful things he did too,but he could not repair this badly damaged economy in 4 years. nobody hates Bush, but he caused these problem. It is logical, if you can’t it then maybe you are blind,or have a terrible hate in you. snap out of it, then siff out the negatives also the posatives and you will find the answer..

      • http://facebook tydub

        sad, but true

      • Susan L

        Try 2007. The last two years of Bush’s final term the Democrats had control of both the House and Senate. What does that say?? Bush gave us many bad things, wars, Prescription Drugs and No Child Left Behind, but he did try to get the Democrats to investigate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac many times before they imploded. The Democrats own this!!

      • Lilimay

        Both of you are missing the point! The world-wide economic problem that America is a part of can never be fixed until the cause is fixed!

    • Jim B

      The Dems ran the country in Bush’s last two years in office…. remember! You have to start looking at your current leader if you want to continue the blame game.

      • Flashy

        Bush, the American Taliban and the TP extremists ran this nation into the ground. Protest the blame being placed where it should, and deny any policies which to repair the damage…then say “it’s everyone’s fault but ours! We know what to do! ” And patriots they are, should Obama receive another four years, they’ll fight using every dirty trick and lie they can conjure up to keep their failed policies in place.

      • Vicki

        Flashy (without bothering with any evidence) says:
        “Bush, the American Taliban and the TP extremists ran this nation into the ground.”

        Just think of the kind of power such people would have to wield to do all the damage in spite of the democrats having full control of the House, Senate and Presidency. for 2 full years.

        Why it makes you almost believe in the Bilderberg conspiracy.

      • DaveH

        What gets me is that the Big Government followers have neither logic nor experience on their sides, but still they cling to Socialism. But it will work this time! Sure, dream on. Socialism is and always has been about the Leaders. They happily feather their own nests at the rest of our expense while their Followers drink their Kool-Aid.
        Wait, I think I hear Flashman coming with the pitcher now.

      • momo

        Flashman the whiner at it again.

      • Vicki

        Jim B writes:
        “You have to start looking at your current leader if you want to continue the blame game.”

        Doesn’t that require that they HAVE a current leader?

      • Tony Ruiz

        You’ve got it right

        • Smilee

          The GOP senators blocked the agenda thus no complete control by the democrats and besides the damage was already mostly done in 2007 when they took the majority so your distortion of history does not ring true

        • Jeff

          Yes, whenever anything goes wrong, look for the nearest Democrat to blame. If no one else available, blame the D.C. Mayor.

    • willie lee

      More Bush blaming? Is that all you Dems can do? I guess besides shove gas up 100% rack-up 6 trillion more in debt, make the highest taxes and regulations on small business than anywhere in the world, expose our children to homosexual conduct in schools we pay for, on and on….WTH? What planet do you live on?

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        Yeah it was that Dang Bush that got me kicked off facebook for 15 days because I had the audacity to give my Opinion about the UAW suing Romney for Profiteering off Obama Bailout of the Auto Industry that was nothing but a revaluation of the Stocks of the Autos which benefited anyone who held those stocks so I said how do you signal out Romney and man they had me censored in a matter of minutes turning off my Page like a light switch !!!!! So there already is web censorship Brandon .

      • Jeff

        Tony:

        I am certain it was your eloquence that caused Obama to order Facebook to dis you like that. Maybe the secret service had to investigate a threat to the President. In fact, I think he was reading your posts while he was looking down during the first debate. He knows you, and you alone, have the information that can bring him down. The only thing he could do to stop you was suspend your Facebook page. He couldn’t afford the gas to send a black helicopter your way. But now that he’s shrinking the Navy, he’ll be able to afford something stronger.

        I used to have a client, an osteopathic physician, who was convinced he was involved in some sort of global chess match with the Pope. He would chart plane crashes and show how they all happened in places he had recently been. And if anything happened on April 20, forget about it! It’s called paranoid schizophrenia.

        • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

          JEFF nice effort to use the appearance of Threats against your LEADER to give Cover to the Desire of the Progressive Communist Party to Take away any opposing views of their Agenda to save Earth From Humanity both is Size of population and rate of consumption of THEIR RESOURCES !!!!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/eugene.sevene Eugene Sevene-THE PATRIOT

        He came from that planet where if you tell a lie you explode NOT. Fact If it benefits a politicians career he/she will lie to you. I don’t have it now but I had a video tape of Jimmy Carters first fire side chat, which I lost in a fire, where he said ” It is not until you become president that you find out just who is running this country”. He said he would have one every month,but it was three months until the next one, right after he was told he could not make statements like that again. People called him a do nothing president. If you were threatened you would be careful to and have a laid back attitude. I am an independent and a disabled veteran so I can make statements and really don’t care if I step on your toes. I don’t make these statements because I want to be your friend, I make them because I have done my research, unlike some of you, for if you had done your own research you wouldn’t say some of the things you do. It is obvious that you don’t have all the facts, and I am talking about both sides. Fact:: one man does not run this country. Fact ::one man has tried to run this country by ignoring the laws and constitution by passing the congress and senate and implementing executive orders. One of which allows him to establish work camps for citizens of OUR country. Don’t take my word for this DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. I especially like the one that allows him to arrest detain and execute anyone on his word without due process. Go on with your name calling and vote for whom you will for this, as of today, is your right. According to my research I will give no guaranty that this will be the case four years from now. I wish every American would be an American first and forget about party, which being a member of a party is a socialist concept, and start thinking about what is best for our country instead of self. I have said all of this because I am concerned for our children and grandchildren and the state of the nation we are leaving them to deal with. I ask all the people to be AMERICANS first and when you do your research keep an open mind and trust in God. .

      • Flashy

        Willie –> “More Bush blaming? Is that all you Dems can do? I guess besides shove gas up 100% rack-up 6 trillion more in debt, make the highest taxes and regulations on small business than anywhere in the world, expose our children to homosexual conduct in schools we pay for, on and on….WTH? What planet do you live on?”

        More Bush blaming? Nope…blaming the right wing extremists and American Taliban along with Bush. Gas rices are about as high as they hit during Bush’s term before the recession crashed the economy and lower demand caused them to fall to an artificial low. Actually, using the correction values of the dollar and improving economic situation, today’s prices are about the same as any other time. Debt is almost all Bush and the extremists. Federal spending has basically been flat lined since Pres. Obama;s budgets began to be our budget. Funny…almost every small business i know say their taxes have stabilized, they’re getting killed by state taxes and the inequality of the market and GOP regs which favor Big Corporations. . WTF ? What ‘homosexual conduct” ????

        Whatever planet I live on…lat i heard was Earth. Wherever you’re from…please…stay there.

      • momo

        @flashman, so if our dear leader gets re-elected who’s he going to blame in his second term. I bet I already know your answer.

      • eddie47d

        The ball will once again be in the court of Congress. It would be nice to see a better performance out of them and not have the same circus act from the last 4 years.

        • Jeff

          OBAMA WON!!!!!!!!!!

      • Mike in MI

        Flashy -
        You’re about as slippery a scum bag as I ever saw; exception: Braka Hosein OBagBalm.
        You sure seem to like the idea of Braka having “flatlined the deficit since he took office.”

        Well what should we expect, Funk-breath? The deficit is measured by budget relationships you out-house fly.

        Please, point me in the direction of the budgets proposed, passed and signed by any dolicocephalic, Chicago Canal Carp lovin’, Ghetto Con-man in the last four years. (Lots of folks like to talk about what a nice, likeable fellow Braka is to keep his poll number high. Well, why wouldn’t he be a nice, likeable fellow? You seldom come across a successful con-man who comes on you like Mike Tyson with a new set of chompers.)

        Oh, By the way you wizard of logic, you,… a ‘way up top you made a little error in your finagling about how long the poor Dummykrauts had from January ’07 when they took over ’til they somehow ran out of time to get the economy turned around. You said it was only seven months. There must be some sort of Progressive Math equation written as outhouse wall graffiti here. What happened that was planned for August of 2007 that you are privy to that the rest of us can’t possibly understand? You’re so much SM-m-m-mor-r-rt-ter-r-r-r than the ray-ist un nus, you slick lipped lizard you.

    • http://yahoo.com colin mincham

      i totally agree bush put us in this mess the republicans are always the cause of middle class peoples misery all they think about is lifting themselves up and putting the working class down they give themselves raises on the backs of the middle class tax payers they wont the middle class to work for minium wages at the same time raising taxes the middle class will never get ahead under the republicans mitt romney will continue the same old policies as bush and look out for those special interests wake up middle class you will regret voting for the republicans if romney gets elected he will destroy america for the working class

      • J-M

        Colin, OBAMA destroyed the middle class! He took away our shovel ready jobs and gave the money to welfare recipients. (social services) Now we have to pay MORE for health insurance, which most of the middle class can’t afford anyway. We have to pay NOT to have it (punished) because it’s too expensive for us. He has hired more gov. workers, whose salaries WE CAN’T AFFORD TO PAY! He has given money and US purchased goodies to those maniacs in the middle east. He has allowed the banks to take our homes, but rewarded those same banks with my tax money. Don’t you get it? Obama hates the middle class.

      • Vicki

        J-M says:
        “Colin, OBAMA destroyed the middle class! He took away our shovel ready jobs and gave the money to welfare recipients.”

        But mostly Obama gave the money to his CRONY Capitalist friends like the owners of Soylandra.

      • eddie47d

        Are you still playing that game Vickie? Few made much of anything off of Solyndra because the market went to China.They became the winners while we lost again because of delay tactics in Congress.

        • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

          EDDIE47d what did Congress delay on the Solar market that forced it to china ???

      • Vicki

        Eddie47d evades the 800 lb elephant in the room by writing:
        “Few made much of anything off of Solyndra because the market went to China.”

        And so where is the 500 MILLION? Either it went to Cronies of Obama or it is proof positive that government is incompetent at choosing winners. Or both. Not just Solyndra but all the other failed companies that got BILLIONS of dollars to spend.

    • DaveH

      Harriet says — “You are giving your opinion to many people and they may be weak enough to believe you”.
      No, Harriet, the weak-minded will believe you.
      Read this book to get just a starter-clue on what Leaders are really all about:
      http://library.mises.org/books/John%20V%20Denson/A%20Century%20of%20War%20Lincoln,%20Wilson%20and%20Roosevelt.pdf

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Between the Pie in the Sky Libertarians and their totalitarian brethren it is difficult to breath in here. Blah blah blah Same old diatribe from all of you. Boring.Please note that I did not call you names and act immature, like you usually do.

      • DaveH

        Crony Capitalist,
        Feel free to dispute anything I say. You can’t, so you choose instead to ridicule me — typical weapon of choice for ignorant people who choose manipulative tactics over substance.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Predictable name calling. Nah nah nah. I win you loose. Sticks and bones will break my bones will never hurt me. Please do not pick up any sticks or stones. i know how and am prepared to defend myself to the death.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Just because I do not agree with the open border policy of the Libertarian Party. Which by th way, is why it will never be anything but a fringe party for kooks and loons like Ron Paul and Gary Johnson, etc. You can now launch your attack diatribe on me because I don’t agree with that part of the Libertarian Pary.

      • DaveH

        Crony Capitalist is still spreading his “Open Borders” lie.
        Here is the truth, straight from the Libertarian Pary Platform:
        “3.4 Free Trade and Migration
        We support the removal of governmental impediments to free trade. Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders. However, we support control over the entry into our country of foreign nationals who pose a credible threat to security, health or property”.

        See for yourself at — http://www.lp.org/platform

      • DaveH

        Just when I think that Crony Capitalist can’t get any more immature he says this — “Please do not pick up any sticks or stones. i know how and am prepared to defend myself to the death”.

      • DaveH

        Crony Capitalist says — “Predictable name calling”.
        Then he proceeds to call names:
        “Please note that I did not call you names and act immature, like you usually do”. That isn’t name-calling in the very same sentence?
        “it will never be anything but a fringe party for kooks and loons like Ron Paul and Gary Johnson”.
        “Or will you continue to display your lack of maturity and intellect?”.

        Are you completely oblivious to your own comments, Crony Capitalist?

      • Vicki

        Capitalist at Birth says:
        “Between the Pie in the Sky Libertarians and their totalitarian brethren it is difficult to breath in here. Blah blah blah Same old diatribe from all of you. Boring.Please note that I did not call you names and act immature, like you usually do.”

        Interesting. Do you realize that claiming someone is acting immature (when they are not) IS name calling? Are you aware that statements like “Pie in the Sky….” is argument to ridicule? Which is another way of saying name calling? It is also ad hominem as DaveH is a well known libertarian and thus would be in the group CB is talking about?

        Now CB has plausible deniability in the way English works but the inference is clearly there.

      • Vicki

        Capitalist at Birth says:
        “Just because I do not agree with the open border policy of the Libertarian Party.”

        But you like obama’s open border policy? At least with the Libertarian party there is some tracking.

        Capitalist at Birth: “Which by th way, is why it will never be anything but a fringe party for kooks and loons like Ron Paul and Gary Johnson, etc”

        Argument to ridicule (kooks and loons like….) I.E. Name calling.

    • tymtrvlr

      Oh please, you tool. Anyone with more than 1 brain cell knows damn good and well that, Ronald Reagan got us out of the financial mess your boy jimmy the peanut boy carter got us into, skyrocketing costs of living. Then along comes billy bubba lewinsky clinton, living off the legistlation Reagan put in place, then the dot com bubble came along helping clinton’s marxist climb to more power, getting people like you to believe he had anything to do with it. It was bill clinton that created the housing and real estate mess with his marxist belief that everyone should have the right to a house whether they could afford it or not. And don’t forget that it was a Republican by the name of John Casich from Ohio that finally balanced clintons budget, as the country was going over the edge financially. People like you tend to forget the facts and spread your spew without thought. G.W. Bush was not the greatest president, but the country prospered until barney franks and the bill clinton Fanny and freddie debacle slammed us into the ground financially. And if the wars are such a problem for you, then why hasn’t your cowardly worthless god obama actually pulled us out of iraq and afghanastan? Don’t forget that Bush had to deal with the 9-11 disaster, that wasn’t a cheap fix, and how about hurricane katrina? Now we have seen just how impotent your boooyy obama is, the hurricane sandy disaster was handled even worse by your booyyy. How about Benghazie, obama lied and innocent people died. Keep spewing your marxist tripe, there are still alot of us that survived the carter years, the clinton years, and hopefully the nation will survive the obama years.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Other than Clinton/Reno forcing banks to loan money to people who would never have qualified previously (inner city minorities/non whites) and did not have to have a down payment at all (previously a minimum of 10% down payment was required) which created the FALSE demand; was the revocation of the Glass Steagall Act originally enacted in 1933 which prevented traditional banks from playing the market games that led to this mess. I predicted this in the year 2000. I am surprised it took until 2007. It should have happened much sooner. Just like the current QE bubble will pop within the next two years. This will make the housing bubble look like Child’s play.

      • Bill

        Good comments Tymtrvlr
        It amazes me how ignorant to the facts the progressive posters are. Or maybe they are just making things up to sell a political cause.

      • DaveH

        The Glass Steagall Act (Banking Act of 1933) was a political tool used by the Rockefeller Group to hobble their competitors (the Morgan Group). There is no inherent reason that bankers are any less risky when they have investment divisions than when they don’t. Whether they own investment arms or not, still their credit can go to those who do, even if not directly. The Glass Steagall Act was merely the typical Government smoke and mirrors to convince people that they’re worth the 40% of our GDP that they consume each year.
        And noteworthy is that one of the sections of the Glass Steagall Act allowed the Fed to use U.S. government securities in addition to gold as collateral for Federal Reserve notes. Gee, I wonder who that benefited, Crony Capitalist?

        • Jeff

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          I sent you a list of financial crises, none of them in the U.S. between 1929 and the S&L crisis of the late 80s. I asked you to point out any others. It seems like Glass Steagall worked pretty well or else we were just lucky. As you likely know, the S&Ls were not subject to banking regulations. When you deregulate, you get banks growing too large, gambling, and ultimately a crisis. The pure free market at work, Austrian style. Most sane people believe reasonable regulation of banks is the way to go.

    • DaveH

      Harriet says — “No one could turn this around in 4yrs”.
      In fact, Harriet, there was only one recession that lasted more than 2 years in the country’s history before the Federal Reserve and Progressive Big Government, and that one was very mild. Government meddling is what causes our recessions to be long and severe. Read this book if you want to wake up (doubtful):
      http://library.mises.org/books/Murray%20N%20Rothbard/Americas%20Great%20Depression.pdf

      • Capitalist at Birth

        I have read that book Dave H., along with other Mises, Rothbard, Hayek, Sowell, and many other brilliant economists. Will you quit calling me names now? Or will you continue to display your lack of maturity and intellect?

      • mark

        Dear DaveH,

        I beg to differ. There were several long, sustained downturns in U.S. economic history before the creation of the Federal Reserve: 1807-1813, 1837-1843, 1873-1879, and 1893-1897. Estimated unemployment during these recessions/depression were around 20% for many years. Human suffering and declines in GDP were also very sharp due to the fact that no income stablizers existed in those days, such as Social Security payments, unemployment insurance, food stamps, AFDC, or even private company pensions. I always prefer scholarly books that are peer-reviewed to internet articles that are not properly researched or cited and make lots of unsubstantiated claims. A couple of good ones on U.S. economic history are Michael Lind’s Land of Promise (2012) and Ronald Seavoy’s An Economic History of the United States 1607 to the Present (2007). They give a much more complex understanding of these economic crises than the Austrian School ideologues do. I have read Rothbard and the others but find them too didactic and narrow in their anaylyis.

        Best, mark

        p.s. I agree with you completley on another front. If you believe in the ideas of Gary Johnson, you should definitely go out and vote for him. People should vote their conscience. And I am not saying this just because I support Obama. As you mentioned in an earlier post, in some states Johnson may actually help Romney.

      • DaveH

        Mark,
        First of all you need to provide some references since I can’t just take your word for anything. Secondly, most of History has been written by Court Historians who have no economic experience so rely mostly on information as presented by those in power who obviously are going to slant things their way. This book is written by an expert economist who demonstrates rigorously that many of the supposed economic downturns were actually periods in which Real Incomes and Economic Prosperity advanced for the average citizens:
        http://mises.org/Books/historyofmoney.pdf

      • DaveH

        In fact, between 1800 and 1913, the dollar savings of the citizens actually gained in value by almost double, as opposed to the great loss in value that has occurred since 1913.

      • DaveH

        From “America’s Great Depression” by Murray Rothbard:
        “Generally, depressions last a year or two; prices and credit contract sharply, unsound positions
        are liquidated, unemployment swells temporarily, and then rapid recovery ensues. The 1920–1921 experience repeated a familiar pattern, not only of such hardly noticeable recessions as
        1899–1900 and 1910–1912, but also of such severe but brief crises as 1907–1908 and 1819–1821. Yet the Great Depression that ignited in 1929 lasted, in effect, for eleven years”.
        And:
        “The depression of 1873–1879 was a special case. It was, in the first place, a
        mild recession, and second, it was largely a price decline generated by the monetary
        contraction attending return to the pre-Civil War gold standard. On the
        mildness of this depression, particularly in manufacturing, see O.V. Wells, “The
        Depression of 1873–79,” Agricultural History 11 (1937): 240.”.

        • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

          “Yet the Great Depression that ignited in 1929 lasted, in effect, for eleven years”

          Yes, it did. And that was because of the lack of rain in the mid-west. That made things to much worse for this country.

      • Flashy

        “Mark,
        First of all you need to provide some references since I can’t just take your word for anything. “<— DaveH

        Seriously Mark..do you really expect DaveH to have a mind and look up the truth himself? besides, anything more complex than reading the title of a Mises link is over his head and beyond his capability…. (you really don't think he's read any of the links he posts do you? For a fact, he rarely reads what he posts…)

      • DaveH

        As usual, Flashman goes for the personal attack in lieu of any facts.

        You have no credibility on this board, Flashman.

      • Ana

        Tigeer, the Great Depression lasted for 11 years because of ineffective policies instituted by the Roosevelt administration, not unlike the ineffective policies instituted by the Obama administration today. Roosevelt never got us out of the Depression. WWII and the Military Industrial Complex did.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      The simple fact is that you and your fellow Dems/Progs/Leftists believe that the Welfare State that you helped keep alive is your Messiah. God said that men would have to work for a living, you and your fellows believe that government will make men work for your living.

    • http://goggle danny buckles

      Harriet Brown the way you started your post, I thought you were smart and was condeming the pecimist that wrote this article. Turns out you are as dumb as he is . You can’t see what a dismal failure Obama the give away man is. We need a man like Mitt Romney with work ethics to turn this Nation around. Are you so stupid you can’t see that half the poulation can’t support the other half. Plus the entire Muslim Brotherhood Nations. Obama’s brothers. Vote Mitt Romney Our only present hope.

    • Tina

      Harriet, you’re apparently yet one more American who doesn’t understand the very simple concept of who truly controls the purse strings. Here’s a hint: It’s CONGRESS. Do you know WHY we had a favorable economy under Clinton? Because he had a republican controlled congress that actually passed and balanced a budget, reformed welfare, and slashed taxes during a tech boom. On top of this, as much of a slime ball as Clinton was, at least he WOULD reach across the aisle. Obama doesn’t know the meaning of the word. Instead, his mantra is “We won, you lost.” Talk about the great uniter! He’s turned out to be a partisan, race-baiting hack that cares only about his personal vendetta and agenda against this nation. His loyal serfs are too punch-drunk to see that they’re little more than useful idiots to an agenda and they’ll be tossed under the bus once they’ve served their useful purpose.

      The Democrats controlled congress the last two years of Bush’s final term, and the first two of Obama’s. FOUR YEARS of Dem control in Congress, two with an uber liberal president in the Oval Office and all they did was spend, spend, spend and ram legislation down our throats that more than 70% of the American population did not want. They have not passed a budget the entire time Obama has been in office – by LAW the Senate is required to do so…. instead they spend, spend, spend.

      You can continue to blame Bush all you want, but you can look to your lovely out-of-control Democrats to thank for the current death spiral. It boggles the mind how out-of-touch Americans really are with the actual process of how gov’t works.

      • Mike

        AMEN! Thank you, Tina.

      • deerinwater

        ” Talk about the great uniter! He’s turned out to be a partisan, race-baiting hack that cares ”

        It was only W Bush that claimed to be a “Uniter and not a Divider”

        Gov. Bush: ‘I’m a Uniter, Not a Divider’

        Aired February 29, 2000 – 10:02 a.m. ET

    • Ron

      Harriet, You are wallowing in the Democrat Pool of Mistaken Certainty. The reason Clinton did so well is because he worked with the Republican Congress to achieve their goals. The reason obama had such a difficult time was because his democrat congress in 2007 and 2008 spent us into extreem debt and created the financial bubble that exploded and caused the depression we are in now. Befor the democrats were elected into office in 2006, the DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77, the GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%, and the unemployment rate was 4.6%. Look at the History Harriet, the History!!

      • Bill

        Clinton also “saw the light” when he could not get his liberal policies through congress. He moved to the center and, against his liberal roots, even reduced the capital gains tax

      • alpha-lemming

        To Bill….
        That’s because Bubba was ALL about Bubba… whatever it takes to remain in the oval office/limelight. Chairman Oba-Mao is much more of an idealogue (although he did cave on the current tax rates…. not soon enough to save his a$$ in the mid-terms) and compromise isn’t really in his lexicon.

        • Jeff

          He has compromised plenty. Have you not heard the Republicans reject the very idea of compromise? Emerge from the right wing bubble to get some air once in a while.

      • Mike in MI

        Heard about compromise, Jeff? – Of course, everybody has.
        Here’s how it works. The Prez sends a proposal to the House for their consideration and mark up. It is so unAmerican Oblamer hardly gets any of his fellow House Dems to go for it. But, the House (Repubs, Tea Partyers and Dems) works out a counter proposal, passes it and submits it to the Senate.
        Hairy Reed takes it, sneers and tables it…to never hear the sound of debate in the chamber.
        Thus, Obama can (could…it is too late now) truly say, ” Them Republicans haven’t sent me a single thing…Not one bill has hit my desk from Congress.”

        • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

          At this late hour of fiscal insolvency continued gridlock a Dictator will rise driven by more of the demands of those who just want someone to help them …..

        • Jeff

          It’s uncanny, like you’re a fly on the wall!

    • http://twitter.com/TexomaPatriot freePatriot (@TexomaPatriot)

      This has to be a comment to draw out others because it is so full of untruths that it can’t be serious. What about all the gov’t drains on our economy (affordable housing act ie fannie mae and Freddie, highest corporate tax rate in the world! 16 Trillion in debt as a once productive nation? Big gov’t isn’t giving us a chance to suceed.) If you want a little better perspective at least watch the movie Atlas Shrugged.

    • Vigilant

      “I was worth 1.5 and when Bush left office I was worth 9 hundred thousant [sic] if [sic] I was 20-25yrs old I could make it back but I am 69 and retired and I have to live off this income for the rest of my life.”

      Dearie, I wouldn’t expect too much sympathy on your “plight.”

      I don’t believe anyone will lose sleep over the facts that (1) you blame President Bush for your bad investment decisions, and (2) your annual income based on life expectancy is $69,230 per year. Notwithstanding your wailing and gnashing of teeth, there are many who wish they were as well off as you.

      P.S. If you seek to blame anyone besides yourself, try the Democrats who were in power in Congress who ignored the admonishments of the Bush administration over the Fannie/Freddie debacle, which sent the nation into the tailspin it caused.

      You may also blame Obama’s Fed Chairman Bernanke when hyperinflation destroys the value of the assets you hold.

      • Vicki

        Vigilant writes:
        “You may also blame Obama’s Fed Chairman Bernanke when hyperinflation destroys the value of the assets you hold.”

        Ummm. Actually assets (gold, silver, stocks, houses etc) tend to go way UP in value during hyperinflation. It is paper money or that funny number in your bank statement that goes down :)

        Just think of how much a loaf of bread was worth (Wiemar republic) and it is a consumable asset. :) http://covertress.blogspot.com/2010/10/weimar-republic-hyperinflation-redux.html

        • Donald Darden

          I won’t mind leaving this world wnen the ? time comes, as I see far worse coming our way. To call it hyperinflation is almost a joke. What it will be is so much money in circulation (but not in our hands) that prices won’t actually rise, the dollar becomes worthless. It has happened before. The argument then becomes what can you invest in and hold so that you have something to barter with when nobody will accept money anymore. or want so much money that you just don’t have it? Bread is not the anwer, because it only lasts for a few days. The traditional way has been to use gold or silver as bartering chips. The trouble is that gold can be faked by composites and cladding, and silver can be hard to distinguish from other metals and may not be pure itself. I favor American made coins that predate 1965 that are guaranteed to be 90% silver and about 10% copper. Their stamping, weight, and size does a lot to make them identifiable and acceptable to others.

      • Vicki

        Donald Darden says:
        “I favor American made coins that predate 1965 that are guaranteed to be 90% silver and about 10% copper. Their stamping, weight, and size does a lot to make them identifiable and acceptable to others.”

        It is a very good way to find chips of silver and gold with assayers marks imbedded in them. But they can be counterfeited too.

        Also keep in mind that lead is a useful metal. I recommend it be in those cute little brass containers for easy assay and storage.

    • SarahR

      Harriet Brown. I’m so sorry for your loss but don’t blame it on Bush AGAIN. A Democratic controlled Congress took over in 2006. Obama voted against bush often and voted against Bush when he asked that sub-prime loans be investigated seventeen times. Obama inherited his own bad economy. Then in his first two years Democrats were still in control. What good did he do with that? Nothing. Now let’s go back to Clinton. Clinton was destroying our economy as badly as Obama is now until Americans voted in a Republican Congress led by Newt Gingrich. Clinton was forced to balance the budget and did so for four years. You can lead Democrats to facts but you can’t make them think.

    • steve

      like i said yesterday, it’s the same body with a different face. you trusted in man to make you money and you didn’t watch your money like you should . you are the irresponsible one for trusting some else with your money. don’t blame anyone for the market going up or down . you are gambling and you know it and when things go bad it’s someone elses fault not yours . your 69 .grow up and take responseability for you decisions.

    • http://thisone hangman

      Obama is NO MAN. He is a spawn of the devil, and has fools like you believe in him. Of all the wrongs he has committed, (crimes, really) giving billions of our money to our enemies, not to mention all the weapons he gives to al-quaida, have to be some of the worst acts of treason commite3d. And you call that disgusting homo a man?

      • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

        “Obama is NO MAN. He is a spawn of the devil,”

        Oh, for heaven’s sake, grow up and stop listening to the voices in your head. Obama is not evil, he’s just another politician.

        • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

          Obama is a politician following the lead of those who believe its time to transform Liberty into a Controlled state because they think Liberty under the economic system called Capitalism that promotes Individual Prosperity is Creating a Consumption rate thats Killing Earths ECO system

    • http://yagooft.info FREE

      Simply amazing how so many are still blaming Bush. If obama happens to win, it will allow him to complete the total destruction of America he has started in first four years, and when people see the recession convert to depression, then we will see how many of the deaf, dumb and blind will still be blaming Bush.

      • Vicki

        FREE writes:
        ” then we will see how many of the deaf, dumb and blind will still be blaming Bush.”

        All of them. They will just say that it took 8 years to create the mess so it will take at least that long to clean it up. They would use that in campaigns in 2016 to justify why Democrats should be elected.

        If President Bush really had even 1/10 the power they attribute to him he would be a god.

        • Donald Darden

          Very true. Fact is, I felt Bush was really set on saving this country, but he seems to have lacked focus on a number of internal problems. But how much can you expect one man to do? And since when did we begin thinking our only recourse to problems took Presidential action? You are really looking at the failure of the Congressional method of running a country. I remembe4r feeling that were were fortunate when in a lame duck session that Congress could not do more, because it had no vision, no idea of what America was all about. Better no new laws than more bad ones.

      • Karolyn

        Daniel – I heard some congressmen being interviewed about the devisivness in congress, and one of them said that the people were lucky they had not been in session because they had not been coming up with more worthless crap for a while.

    • Smilee

      DaveH says:
      November 6, 2012 at 8:26 am

      Flashman says — “Predictably, DaveH attacks personally because he has nothing of value”.

      Again Flashman proves his lack of credibility.

      “Anybody, who takes the time to read my typical comments and to read Flashman’s typical comments, knows that the amount of factual intelligent content of my comments far exceeds that of Flashman’s comments”

      Davy, is this the JOKE of the day??? You have no credibility only idiotic assessments and statements, The fruit of closed minds. .

      • Karolyn

        OMG, Dave. Do you have a scorecard between you and Flash? This just gets ridiculouser and ridiculouser between you and so many people. Your self-righteous “I’m better than you are” has gotten a little boring. You must have copious files the way you keep track of other peoples’ posts so you can cite them to try to prove your points. With your knowledge and intelligence, it should be beneath you to engage in such schoolyard antagonism. Never ceases to amaze me. And don’t think I’m excusing the same kind of behavior from anybody else. I certainly respect your views and always have, despite what you might say about me. You have taught me a lot over the past couple of years; and for that I am grateful. Now go ahead; blast me for having an opinion. I could care less.

      • DaveH

        Feel free to prove me wrong any time you want, Sleepee.

      • DaveH

        Another “Positive” comment from Karolyn. Is your magic mirror broken today, Karolyn?

      • DaveH

        Karolyn says — “Your self-righteous “I’m better than you are” has gotten a little boring”.
        I’m self-righteous?
        It isn’t me who votes to help myself to other peoples’ money.
        It isn’t me who votes to make other peoples’ choices.
        It isn’t me who votes to meddle in other countries’ business.

        If I’m self-righteous, Karolyn, what does that make you?

      • DaveH

        It must kill you Liberal Progressives that you can’t just tell your lies on this board and get away with it.
        You’ll just have to live with it, Karolyn.

        • Jeff

          CB:

          If you were a bit less creepy, some people might actually listen to what you have to say.

    • Texas Ride

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      Foreigner omaumau, OWNS the last four years. I could post a list of his crimes against this country that are tmtc. Everyone of these crimes the foreigner committed is destructive to YOUR life and the country in which you live. People like you are reaping the benefits of other people’s labor! Where is your “Shame.” The communist party has been in control the last SIX years! You may praise them now, but in the end, they will turn on the non-productive and try to eliminate YOU. They won’t want to feed you either!

      This article is depressing even though it holds many “truthes.” A true election would have been a discussion of the problems the author outlines. Notice that none were discussed by either candidate. The REAL problems are never brought out in public by any politician or aspiring politician! What about all the things that have been swept under the rug…like Benghazi, Fast and Furious, the Death of 22 Seals,
      Why don’t politicians bring up the outrageous power, loss of liberty and massive taxation that obamacare brings with it. Why are these not discussed in public! Why isn’t the foreigner’s civilian army being talked about! While the foreigner guts our military, he is recruiting his own, personal army that obamacare pays to create and maintain.

      The foreigner in the oval office passes executive orders like he is already pharoah! He rules against the Will of the People! That, my friend, is called tyranny! The American people must decide if they have the guts to take back their Republic and return to the Constitution..Today is only a start! Vote even if this election will most likely be determined by FRAUD. This is a farce and has been for a long time…Purge Washington of the corruption? It is too deeply embedded.
      Only with divine intervention can our country be saved. That does not mean we sit around and wait for it to happen. A great individual will be used to start the cleansing of our country which has come under the rule of, “The Demented!”

      Ask yourself one question: “How do I like the way my country is being governed?”

    • Elda

      How is it that the left always forgets it matters who holds the Congress? Clinton did well because the Congress was controled by Republicans. I hope Obama wins so he can hold this basket of C#%P for all time. Some people just need to learn the hard way.

    • Bill

      If you are 69, then you surely would remember how Reagan turned around the Jimmy Carter fiasco in only about three years. The Carter recession had 15% inflation, 10% unemployment, motgage rates of 21 % and a GDP that was running about 1%. In three years the GDP was running 7% and if you could breathe, you could get a job.

      You surely remember those times, given your age. Obama, in almost 4 years has a GDP of 1.5% The old “It’s all Bush’s Fault” mantra does not apply anymore. If Reagan could turn it around in three years, so could Obama. Maybe it is because he is a bumbling idiot

      • Flashy

        Ah yes..the so-called “reagan Revolution”. build an artificial stimulated economy on debt, begin the massive wealth redistribution to the wealthy stealing from the Middle class, transforming us from a manufacturing nation to a service oriented nation, cut wages, make two income families a mandatory item for living standards to be kept high, and massive spending on defense for a wasteful multiplier effect of one of the lowest on the economic ROI scale.

        i had Reagan pegged as the worst President ever to malign this nation…until Bush II exceeded that low standard.

        • Donald Darden

          Nixon and Carter were both worse Presidents. Let me add Obama to the group. Reagan had to come into an office that was really out of favor to Americans, and brought it back by just being himself. I have to give him that. Now had I lived at the time of Lincoln, I would have really worried about whether the Republic would still be intact with all the control he added to his office, and it is only in the aftermath that we see him as a great man because we survived.

      • deerinwater

        “Nixon and Carter were both worse Presidents.”

        ~ No, sorry ~ Nixon was a very capable leader and tactician with many national and inter-national achievements to his credit. ~ while it true Nixon had many enemies inside his own party and opposition as well. His cynical suspicious personality was justified. ~ He broke under the load, a flawed man but a great American Statesman none the less making him one of the best GOP President of modern history lead only by Ronald Reagan who was actually a hybrid, democrat turned republican when the pot was right and he felt the calling.

        As for Cater, the highest IQ of any modern President, ~ he did not possess the capacity to wield power which rendered him an ineffective leader but it was not that he was stupid but because he was a nice man, swimming among sharks. Carter a very principled man, and thought other statesmen were as well, attempted to lead the nation as Deacons would the business of a church congregation, as responsible grown ups with their egos checked at the door.

    • Ted Crawford

      Harriet
      Article 1, Section 7, Clause 1 Constitution of the United States of America!
      The Bush administrations average annual deficit increase, for the years 2000 thru 2006 was 2.7%. Beginning mid-2007, the deficit increase began a meteoric rise, culminating in mid-2008, at OVER 6%! The economy experienced it’s collapse just a couple of months later.
      The only difference was the swearing in of the 110th. Congress – Harry Reid (D) Nevada – Senate Majority Leader and Nancy Pelosi (D) California – Speaker of the House!

      • Flashy

        Actually ted…the economy began it’s downward spiral in mid 2007….and crashed a year later.

    • Ron brown

      Actually most everybody on these pages is wrong the economic downfall was caused by the Clinton administration forcing banks to give mortgages to people who clearly could not pay them back, then the bush administration was too weak kneed to reverse this cruelty caused caused thousands of families to go into bankruptcy and thousands more to lose their jobs.,

      • Vicki
      • Flashy

        “the Clinton administration forcing banks to give mortgages to people who clearly could not pay them back”

        another big lie fomented by the extremists who try to escape the blame of the Bush/Cheney debacle.

        This simply is not true. You’re speaking of the Community ReInvestment Act of 1977. All that did was require bank and lenders to record the amount they received from a community in deposits, and document the lending practices of the institution for that community to establish that each community was treated equally and not red lined. It carried NO PENALTIES except that the record was a major factor in determining whether a merger or acquisition would be subject to additional requirements to address any inequalities in lending. it ensured that if a community had its residents deposit $100 in a savings account, the bank would direct some of that back to the community via lending. Whether it be commercial loans, mortgages, lines of credit, auto loans etc.

        No one ever held a gun to the heads of the bank saying they had to lend ….

        If such is your thinking, you’ve been corrected and you would be spreading a falsehood if you continue to insist banks were forced by the government to lend money.

      • Vicki

        The astute reader will notice that Flashy offered no proof of his claim that banks were not punished for failing to loan money whereas the link I provided direct evidence of the penalties. Here is another.

        http://www.ajtt.org/?page_id=91

      • http://www.facebook.com/ronald.christopher.393 Ronald Christopher

        Not quite true Ron. Jimmy Carter started that process and Clinton hammered it into the ground.

    • Barb Winters

      The only way America will be destroyed is if Obama wins. The things he has done to and
      ‘for’ this country are obscene. He cannot tell the truth, bows to the enemy, changes the Constitution. hates America, as well his wife does too, reduced our Mililtary endangering our safety, sent our money to other countries that we so badly need, put about 20 million more on food stamps, indirectly murdered 4 Military men and then lied about it.

    • http://none Francine A. Skronski

      Obama is the man. He sure is the man who is destroying America. And when he does will that make you proud?

      • deerinwater

        We were circling the drain the day Bronco Obama was sworn in Francine. ~ W couldn’t get out of town fast enough to suit him fearing the mailman might show up with the bill before he did.

      • http://yahoo.com Joann Flanagan

        Religious Freedom Yes!
        Obamacare no!
        Joann Flanagan

    • Glenn

      I hate to tell you this, but it wasn’t Bush that put the nail the coffin. Clinton signed the document to start NAFTA. It wasn’t Bust that signed it. Yes, he did draw it up but did not sign it. Then it not only was north america trade association, but it opened up the doors to give our jobs and free trade to all countries. You had better get your stories right before you start blaming on someone you don’t know about. The unions demanded Clinton not sign it but he still did.

      • Jeff

        Yes, Clinton pushed NAFTA, but it was essentially a Republican policy with roots as far back as Reagan. In the House, it was passed primarily by the Republicans; most Democrats voted against it even though Clinton was president. This is one of the reasons Clinton has been called “our greatest Republican president.”

        • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

          JEFF spinning again …. The WTO was a CLINTON DREAM NOT a Reagan republican One and NEWT pushed back hard against Clinton on it before caving in and supporting it , my guess is they all went to a Party and bought each other off and its been down hill ever since !!!!

      • deerinwater

        “Glenn says:

        I hate to tell you this, but it wasn’t Bush that put the nail the coffin. Clinton signed the document to start NAFTA.”

        This is true Glenn ~ Clinton signed and supported the Bill that crafted the “HAMMER” . How that HAMMER was used after he left office is the responsibility of the “USER” and not Bill Clinton.
        Like any TOOL, it can be and was misused and abused. Long term oversight was next to none.

        If we are to hold the original creator of a “tool” responsible for everything the tool does and not the “USER” of the tool, ~ our thinking is flawed. ~ there would be fewer tools to work with.

    • ROGER, Irish-Canadian LIBERTARIAN

      Harriet Brown, you are a PERFECT example of the problem ,of which Brandon smith is talking about,-completely dumbed-down.You cannot see the “forest for the trees”. I haven’t wasted my 72 years believing the propaganda but it seems you have.

    • General “Bull” Shipper

      Harriet Brown, Better to remain silent and be thought of as an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. When one makes idiot statements like these all doubt is removed.

    • Roman

      Typical Democrat blaming game. Unwillingness to take accountability. 4 years of Obama spending twice versus Bush and you are still blaming whoever but yourselves! Unbelievable…

    • Nancy

      Sorry Harriet Brown! I know for a fact that things started to really take a turn for the worse in 2006 when, ya, the democrats took over the House and Senate!! That is when the “you know what” hit the fan!!! Every time we have a majority democrat ANYTHING the “you know what” hits the fan! My own 82 yr old Mom, whom grew up in Pennsylvania and now lives in Upstate, NY has never seen such disrespect, distasteful behavior coming from the democratic party in her life!!! Most folks, I would be willing to bet, have no idea what the democratic platform or,for that matter, the republican platform is!! Most people vote how their parents vote. No one these days seems to know how to do anything on their own accord! I am a republican and have always put God first in everything I do!! I suggest you try this yourself and stop pointing fingers because NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE is above God!!! If you believe in God than you would NEVER agree to the horrible, evil things the democratic party stands for!!!!

      • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

        ” I know for a fact that things started to really take a turn for the worse in 2006 when, ya, the democrats took over the House and Senate!!”

        The Dems didn’t take over the House and Senate until 2007. The election was in 2006.

    • Steve E

      This is why I voted for Obama today;

      Obama has kept us much safer than any President ever.
      Don’t let the Right propagandize you about the Benghazi, Libya incident. Yes, there were four Americans killed, but there could have been a lot more killed had President Obama acted in response by sending military support in there. If the military had responded, there would be a lot more deaths. Never mind the fact that it would be the attackers who would die. The President said that it was not a terrorist attack, and he doesn’t lie, he said there were not terrorists in the attack, it was just people. And you can’t kill people who are not classified as terrorists. I believe him. And even though he said that the cause of the attack was based on a You Tube video, and then people on the right (far far right) are trying to throw facts out there that prove the video not to be the cause of the attack. So what if it wasn’t really the cause, it could have been the cause, and perhaps, even could be the cause sometime in the future. The far far right is also throwing spin out there that the White House and State Dept. knew many facts about the attack within hours after, and even during the attack. That’s a bunch of bull. They are even going as far to say that the White House and State Dept. were forewarned about the danger a month prior to 9-11. If you don’t believe me about what the far far right is up to, just Google Benghazi. There is so much more that the far far right is doing to degrade Obama. They have been even talking about horrific things like gun running in Mexico with cartel drug dealers. Don’t believe me? Google: Fast and Furious. Don’t believe that stuff the right is telling you, you are perfectly safe with President Obama.
      Don’t let yourself be brainwashed by the right.
      Vote Obama! (Don’t drive or take a cab. I’ll pick you up at 9 tonight)
      Never let a good crisis go to waste.

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        Steve E do you really know who it is you supported ???? http://www.silentconquest.com/

      • Jeff

        Good job. I hope you live in a swing state.

      • Steve E

        Jeff, I do, I live in VA. I heard already that Obama was winning so I voted for Romney (don’t anyone else do that) to make it a closer race. Go Obama! Noticed how I covered my butt by voting for Romney in case Obama keeps screwing up, and I can say: “Hey! I didn’t vote for him”. Pretty slick uh?

        • Jeff

          Was it called shell shock, battle fatigue, or PTSD when you checked into the hospital?

      • JeffH

        Steve E, I’m pretty sure you don’t expect many to see the actual sarcasm in your comment. Very good! :)

      • Steve E

        JeffH, you are right. I was just performing an IQ test on the forum.

      • BR549

        No, Hesiod, addressing your response to Steve E about his feeling so much SAFER under Obama, he just hasn’t connected the dots yet, unfortunately. Many of these people won’t do so, sadly, until it’s too late.

        I mean, let’s say we ran across one of them who could INTELLIGENTLY discuss NDAA, drones, the wars (and why we seem to have a concatenation of them), offshoring of our manufacturing sector; if we were able to actually FIND one of them that wasn’t merely an apologist dismissing these insults to our Constitution and the rights of every living thing on the planet, we ‘d have to sit back and ask ourselves what is it that they have come to realize about the overall situation that we had somehow missed. I mean, that would be the fair thing to do.

        But we never see that. They don’t have the familiarity with the relevant issues so there is no intelligent dialogue. The one thing we do see is meaningful dialogue about the global warming issue, and while I think everyone is united in agreeing that we need to be responsible stewards for our “home” planet, the factions differ on how to go about it and what are the causative factors.

        I have been researching the link between the use of barium dropped into the atmosphere. For decades, the government insisted it wasn’t happening only NOW we realize they had been lying to everyone because there was a larger agenda, and it wasn’t to increase the albedo (reflectance) of the atmosphere. Sure, I think very well meaning scientists thought it would help, but why barium? Barium, as it turns out, is “tuneable”, to use their own term. It responds in different ways to different frequencies, those, as no surprise, that are also found being used by HAARP, which the government had tried to dismiss for as many decades.

        I think, when it all comes out, we will find that the HAARP and Chemtrail programs, after having been seized from the inventor and militarized, was later discovered to be a way to INCREASE global warming thereby bringing this Hegelian cycle right back home to the globalists who had pushed it in the first place. The theory being that once they stop the programs, and after they have had a chance to tax the snot out of every country on the planet, they can then stop the program and, lo and behold, the warming would subside or at least go back to its former rate of gradual incline.

        ….. I’m getting off track here. All you can do, Hesiod, is let these people find out for themselves. When all these shows out on TV now are about ZOMBIES, what these people don’t understand is that those shows are referring to them; the unconscious ones who will be storming their neighbors houses for food because they never saw this coming. It’s also why gun sales are OFF THE CHARTS.

        Lock and load.

        • Iamdone

          To iterate every single one of those drones circling the United States CAN be armed. Remember that. Also remember the internment camps barry re opened a few years ago and read bill ayers book. Don’t be surprised if it doesn’t come to fruition. Better yet tries to come to fruition. I can see a revolution brewing. Louisiana has already applied to secede from the US.

          • Louis Lemieux

            If a majority of voters in Louisiana would vote by referendum in favor of Louisiana’s independence I would gladly accept their decision.

          • BR549

            Unfortunately/Fortunately, Iamdone, no state is allowed to secede from the others under the Constitution. That was why the southern states had attempted to first nullify the actions of the northern states, and when the North thumbed its nose at them, THAT was when the South said FU and attempted to secede. But if they had been successful, (not unlike Iran wanting to be left the hell alone today to pursue its own interest and destiny), that would have set a precedent for other states (or countries, today), to dump the US and its continual violation of sovereignty through unrestrained hegemony.

            In order to secede, as I understand, the Union would have to be disbanded and that can only happen with a 2/3rds vote. Or perhaps, with a 2/3rds vote, other states could amend that part of the Constitution. I dunno, but the globalists would be looking for any reason to tear the Constitution further to shreds. That’s why, I believe, no one has been able to dive into it. Any legislator who claims that it has become “antiquated” or outdated, is serving some other purpose that that of the Constitution and the American people and is a traitor. There is no other discussion on the topic. These people should, from the oath of office they swore to, be throwing themselves under a bus to preserve that document. Instead, they are are shredding it with small slow cuts behind our back.

            We should all stand up for Louisiana because it will soon be everyone else’s turn. God bless Louisiana.

      • 71unicorn

        Gee – just four killed – So that’s okay – typical Obama thinking!

    • Karolyn

      Harriet – OMG! You are ONLY worth $900.00! You poor thing!

    • http://gravatar.com/dalene44 Justin57

      Harriet: It was Democrat Community Reinvestment Act that forced banks to make loans to unqualified buyers and Clinton who signed the repeal of Glass Stegal that made it possible for the banks to bundle and sell these bad mortgages. Republicans are not innocent but give the Dems the credit they deserve. The dot com bubble began to burst just as Clinton left office..I remember, I was there. Barney Frank and congress were alerted to the inevitable housing collapse but they just ridiculed the messenger.
      Comparing Obama to Jesus to truly delusional and reveals your mindset.

      • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

        “It was Democrat Community Reinvestment Act that forced banks to make loans to unqualified buyers”

        Wrong. What it forced banks to do was to consider ALL the buyers income. Not just the ones that the banks wanted to consider.

    • Sandy

      I say we fire them all and take our country back. We should all be armed and protect our own stuff and carry our own load. Our forefathers had a good reason for writing the 2ed amendment. Very smart individuals.

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        Harriet get over the bush thing and yes Obama could have done a Better job in 4 years because he had ZERO Interest against the debt to work with , Carter had us up to 21 % at the end of his attempt to bring down the capital system and save earth from humanity but Reagan beat him back cause people still had faith in the FREEDOM of capitalism and so even with a 4-5 % M1 Bond market he was able to rally private Investment back in to fund the Government while the Durables grew and expanded the supply overall in all sectors and by the end of his term the Innovation in Technology that was Unleashed with the tax incentives he put in place made Bill Clinton LOOK really good for the first 6 years of his 8 until he started telling the regulators to look the other way on the book cooking in the tech sector that crashed right after he left office . BUT Bill Clinton had a time BOMB to take down the Free market with wealth and resource Consolidation and that was his WTO formation of a NEW NAFTA , and I will fault BUSH for continuing this Flawed and Failed trade policy AND OBAMA TOO , for sure after he lied about changing it and even used this debate with Hillary to beat he out of the Primaries !!!!!

      • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

        Our country hasn’t gone anywhere. YOU just don’t like what the majority has decided.

    • Cindie Taylor – Proud American

      You are lucky to have so many investments. I only had a 401K and I think I speak for a lot of middle class people that have one, but I was making money before Obama came along, I have lost thousands. My parents are on fixed income and have had no help from this administration, and now with OBAMACARE, they may not get the care they need. Sure they got a little raise in social security, but then the cost of healthcare went up and took that away. If this man is re-elected, all small businesses will suffer. This man does not know anything about running a business. I just don’t understand what people see in this man unless they think he will be giving them a handout and want to become more depend on the government. We as people will have to take a stand and be louder to what we need (no matter who is elected) and that we know what is best for us and don’t need the government meddling in our business as if we are children. Yes our country needs help, but we can get it on our own without interference from other countries. This president says he will “hear us”, where were those big ears the last 4 years when people were protesting about obamacare? He has sent out a loud message that it’s his way or no way, by having meetings behind closed doors with only the democrats, signing into law while the house was out to recess, did away with Day of Prayer at the White House and allowed the Muslims to have one, bowed to our enemies, have taken expensive vacations on our money, have doubled our debt instead of decreasing it as he promised, bailing out companies that either went ahead and closed or laid off thousands (at least with Bush I got a stimulus check – my tax $$ – and it was put back into the economy to keep businesses open and people employed) the list goes on and on. Look it up, it’s all been in the news. I don’t believe we will be better off with BO, but see it to go further down hill. It will take a genius to get us out of the mess he has created and this mess isn’t Bushes fault – not after 4 years – grow up people.

    • http://www.facebook.com/thomas.stewart.75098 Thomas Stewart

      Hay Hey Harriet [comment has been edited] First You Must Put Down That Obama Kool-Aid?? Now You [comment has been edited] Must Step-Up To The Plate And Stop Blaming GW Bush, Your Birther-In-Chief Obama Who Has Never Been Vetted For This Job??? However When His “Lock-Box” Is Opened!! End Of Game!!

    • Peter Sagi

      It goes back a lot further than Pestodent Tush, sweetheart! If you want America restored, there are things going back as far as the Civil War that need to be reversed. But for starters, for practical purposes, the real garbage was put in place during the FDR/new deal era. Bottom line … for all practical intents and purposes, its your particpation in socialistic insecurity/use of a socialist slavestate number. According to the slave enumeration bureau, aka the social security administration, having and using an SSN is not required to live OR WORK in the United States. But try getting a job, bank account, insurance policy, etc. without one. It is your participation in that program, voluntary in the eyes of the law, whereby you “volunteered” to waive your status as a sovereign Citizen and became a “US person” subject to the tax codes, made yourself the subject of executive orders, waived your inalienable rights in exchange for privilege known as “civil rights” etc. A good place to start your wake up process is the video “Bursting Bubbles of Government Deception” viewable for free on youtube in 8 parts/77 minutes long total. Google it.

      Pete

    • http://mac.com jackie cox

      the simple reality is >>>Our economic system was designed around accrued taxation from the mines, wells, farms, to the smelters refineries, mills, fabricators engineering design companies, manufacturing, distribution, to retail>>> accrued taxation placed on american industry provides the revenue for our treasuries to support our infrastructure—When our political arena were bribed to allow countries to import without import taxation, or paying their share of accrued taxation as our companies are required to do, the stck exchanges simply exported our industry to offshore slave states, then imported our products without paying tax american industry is required to pay, the result, most of ur manufacturing companies have been exported, the slave goods super stores have shuttered our small businesses, When we stopped making in america what we consumed, and exporting to the world, we lost our independence, along with our ability to support our infrastructure—the schemers behind globalization, is the world class mafia some 250 dynasties throughout the world, their main control over our nation is the gang of 6, federal reserve board, who collect whatever % they want from our cash flow, in return they do nothing, but elevate themselves to virtual nobility, owning or controlling the cartel of oligopolies that supply the world with their trash—the 3 presidents who tried to remove them, Lincoln, Garfield, and Kennedy were all murdered—they see america as a risk to their plan, and know a resurrection of import taxation would return our jobs, and independence, while responsible government would remove them from control of our money supply, prosecute them for the criminality they are and seize their assets acquired with money stolen from american taxpayers—-just 2 families, the rockerfellers, and rothchilds have acquired more than 100 trillion in geophysical and economic assets world wide, with our money—globalization, or, free trade results in a loss of more than 3 trillion in loss accrued taxation to our treasuries, not to mention a nation where our youth cannot make in america what america consumes, and when they staged a protest at the NYSE,(the finger of the fed) they were beaten pepper sprayed, abused, for simply asking that our jobs we return to our nation, as the youth of our world self educate themselves on the internet they achieve higher magnitudes of literacy than the lawyers, judges, politicians, financial magnates who rule over our nation with and iron hand of predatory law, so the youth are turning to anarchy, and in time will simply eliminate the concealed nobility of our nation, hiding behind the predatory laws they enact to, continue the academic caste system created to separate the classes. A highly literate people without hope become a dangerous people in deed, and will turn to violence to remove Nobility wherever it exists, the legal-medical-insurance fraud mafia will disappear, as will our prisons of servitude, The government will begin to continually modernize themselves using information technology, law and medicine will merge, people who expose deviant behaviour will be treated for the cause, as crime and punishment has been passed by time, the several hundred thousand judges who hold court each day, incarcerating those without legal funds, while releasing those with the cash to pay the legal mafia off, will disappear—Our nation and the world will return to the natural law of respect, so we can be what we can be without legal intervention

    • http://PersonalLiberty Jean Hamilton

      You are absolutely crazy if you think Bush did this…The President does not do what the Senate and House does… These two houses were run by the Democrats..IT was then that they took over and started the down turn of this country. You two had better study up and truly find out where this all started.. Try with Dodd, Frank and how they themselves created the housing bubble.

    • Annie

      Ms Harriet Brown, Now Now Now aren’t you just the greedy little Lib. I thought it was the duty of anyone with your wealth to redistribute it to the less fortunate. Don’t think of it as loosing $600,000 but think of it as helping out someone less fortunate. You should be proud to have done your part. It’s easy for you to redistribute other peoples money but when it’s your own it’s somehow unfair.

    • BR549

      Harriet, sweetie, Bush the Idiot was merely number 5 out of the last 6 administrations with the goal of surrendering this country to globalist interests; slow enough and clandestine enough so that the voters would only see a gradual degradation from what “appears” to be death by natural causes.

      I’m surprised that a kid that appears as young as Brandon has amassed the amount of knowledge on the issue as he has.

      Every one of Brandon’s points has been discussed in the political underground for YEARS, but only those people who have had their chins super-glued to the corporate owned networks are now left dealing with denial and disbelief.

      Sorry to burst your bubble, but Brandon’s is spot on target with his material. This is a BLOCKBUSTER article and those of us to whom this is information is no surprise can only congratulate this young gentleman for being so well informed so early in his years. Me? It took 45 years to understand this material.

      Great article Brandon.

    • http://none Jeryl

      You are, of course, wrong. The US economy was great until after the 2006 elections when the Democrats took control of the House and Senate. The economy began to tank after that. They Dems protected Fanny & Freddie from any efforts to rein them in. It is laughable to hear progressives blame Bush (who I’m not that fond of either) when they are the ones who caused it all along.

    • BR549

      Harriet Brown stated: @ November 6, 2012 at 1:04 am
      “The Republicans are the reason we have problems that we find ourselves in. Nixon open[ed] the trade with China and cost us jobs. Then Bush put the nail in the coffin. When Clinton left office our economy was very strong. The reason I know that is because my investments made money. I was worth 1.5 and when Bush left office I was worth 9 hundred thousant if I was 20-25yrs old I could make it back but I am 69 and retired and I have to live off this income for the rest of my life. Obama may not have fixed everything but at least we are moving in the right direction. Romney would take us back to the Bush years and I can’t afford that. It would have Jesus Christ to fix it all and President Obama is a man.”

      Part 2:
      I had to comment again because you have this so backward. This issue predates even Carter; i.e. it can be traced in various steps even further back to 1971, 1963, 1952, 1937, 1933, 1913, 1871, on back to Alexander Hamilton believing we’d be so much better off with bankers in charge.

      First of all, Clinton left Bush a financial ‘House of Cards’ cleverly concealed by burying the debt among intra-governmental holdings. He wasn’t nearly as bad as Bush was, however, but then, Clinton’s assigned duties were to introduce illegal wire-tapping, depleted uranium use used among our troops on the field, another massive build up of FEMA, the repeal of Glass-Steagall, and signing the Commodity Futures Modernization Act …… ALL of which severely downgraded how our own government treats its own citizens.

      All I can say is that if you have any stocks, it’s time sell them; actually you should have dumped them years ago. It’s all rigged, like a bad card game in a dark room in Vegas.

      I wish I had better news for you, but right now the best thing I can suggest for you is to follow up on the information Brandon has presented here and you really have to make up your own mind. Important thing though is don’t get depressed”; get angry and join the ranks. Double dose on your fish oil supplements; it’ll help with the mood management.

      I lost $500K when Bush the Idiot got into power, but I was fortunate enough to have friends who pointed out that he was just as much a puppet as Clinton and now Obama. Brandon is telling you the God’s honest truth.

    • Elton

      For a woman of your age one would think you would have gained some little bit of wisdom, but alas it seems you missed out somewhere. I guess some people are just born without a brain

    • Ana

      Hariet, seems you either swallowed the liberal bullcrap lies hook, line, and sinker or you’re just another one of the typical lying liberals who thinks everyone has forgotten how we got to this point in our economy. Sure you can fool some of the people but you can’t fool all of them, especially when hard statistics are readily available on the net for anyone intelligent enough and not lazy enough to research them. All the below are facts that are easy to verify. But don’t take my word for it do the research yourself.

      On October 9, 2007, 11 months before our “economic crisis” occurred (that was actually created), the Dow hit its highest point ever, closing at 14,164.53 and reaching 14,198.10 intra-day level 2 days later. Unemployment was steady at 4.7%. But things were already being put in place to create the havoc we’ve all been experiencing since then. And it all started on January 3, 2007.

      The day the Democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009, it was actually January 3rd 2007, which was the day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, at the very start of the 110th Congress.

      The Democrat Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.

      For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is “Bush’s Fault”, think about this: January 3rd, 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the House.

      At the time:
      The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
      The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
      The Unemployment rate was 4.6%
      George Bush’s Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB GROWTH

      Remember the day…
      January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee. The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy? BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!

      Unemployment… to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES!

      Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie – starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy.

      And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? OBAMA. And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie? OBAMA and the Democrat Congress.

      So when someone tries to blame Bush, REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007….
      “THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!”

      Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democrat Party.

      Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 & 2009 as well as 2010 & 2011.

      In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.

      For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budgets.

      And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete 2009.

      If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.

      If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself. In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is I inherited a deficit that I voted for and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th.

    • http://thisone jht39

      Many of you Blame Bush but our rconomy was bboming until the Democeats got control of congress and back then rhey had a budjet and the democrats controlled every dollar spent. Not like nthis president that has never passed a required budjet. The Republican congress has sent several budjets to the democratic senete and all was tabled and never brought up for disscussion or votes. With no budjet they had no spending controls which has blown our national debt through the roof and this was caused bythe democratic controlled senate..

    • tom

      actually those things you talk about with Clinton, was a the result of Reagan’s programs, Clinton did nothing notable. What we need is another Ronald Reagan, and a congress and senate that have worked in the trenches and know what it means to survive in this country. what I am talking about here is real working class people. voting only works when a person votes for the right people, and we have not done that for a long time.

      • Ana

        Urgent: Election fraud volunteers needed in WI, OH, PA, VA, FL

        http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd559.htm
        The people in those states need to:

        First thing Monday is to find out who your electors are and how to contact them.

        Call the State Republican headquarters or the Secretary of State.

        Then fax them a letter explaining the problem (or fax my column with your letter) and ask he/she file a formal complaint with the Secretary of State over the election results. That complaint must say the elector rejects the numbers and only a hand recount and counting military votes will give us the true vote. Military should not be penalized because state Secretary’s of State didn’t get the ballots out in time even though they’ve had four years to get it done.

        Have as many people as possible sign the letter to the elector.

        Then follow up with phone calls everyday this coming week. Persistence pays off. He who makes the loudest noise gets heard.

        GOP electors should jump at this and I don’t know why one wouldn’t. It was a mess on Tuesday and still is.

        Six US House seats are still being counted or contested.

        Millions of votes in California had not been counted as of yesterday:

        http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2012/11/10/vote-fraud-who-destroyed-prop-37-on-election-night/

        Devvy

        • BR549

          Ana wrote: “Election fraud volunteers needed in WI, OH, PA, VA, FL”

          And it appears at least AZ, NM, CO, WA, and OR, as well. As far as I’m concerned, BOTH of those parties should be sent to their rooms without dinner and have their asses paddled black and blue, but what happened in these other states is just more of the same crap we had in 2000 and 2004. S.S.D.D.!

          It seems that both sides have so little faith in this “democratic system”, that each of them can’t fathom having to live in a country where the majority of the people just might not see things their way, and rather than take a chance on discovering just how that general population would like to vote in order to determine its own destiny ……… they have to CHEAT to win. It’s like saying, %$#& the rest of those people, they don’t know what I know, and everything will be better in the morning if only I can get MY party to win.

          Michael Connell, Bush’s tech guy, was on his way to testify about the Ohio situation and had become a threat to those dutiful minions within the Bush Dynasty. “Politicians of rebellious stripes have such bad times with aircraft… Sen. Paul Wellstone, Sen. John Heinz, General Alexander Lebed, Congressman Hale Boggs, Congressman Nick Begich, Governor Mel Carnahan, Congressman Lawrence McDonald,” …….. and now we can add Michael Connell. This political MAFIA is ruthless and last Tuesday was just another in a series of bloody battles between the Luchese and Gambino families. The trail of bodies that has followed the Bush, Clinton, and already the Obama rises to power is staggering.

          “WASHINGTON, Dec 20, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ — Michael Connell, the Bush IT expert who has been directly implicated in the rigging of George Bush’s 2000 and 2004 elections, was killed last night when his single engine plane crashed three miles short of the Akron airport. Velvet Revolution (“VR”), a non-profit that has been investigating Mr. Connell’s activities for the past two years, can now reveal that a person close to Mr. Connell has recently been discussing with a VR investigator how he can tell all about his work for George Bush. Mr. Connell told a close associate that he was afraid that George Bush and Dick Cheney would “throw [him] under the bus.”

          “A tipster close to the McCain campaign disclosed to VR in July that Mr. Connell’s life was in jeopardy and that Karl Rove had threatened him and his wife, Heather. VR’s attorney, Cliff Arnebeck, notified the United States Attorney General, Ohio law enforcement and the federal court about these threats and insisted that Mr. Connell be placed in protective custody. VR also told a close associate of Mr. Connell’s not to fly his plane because of another tip that the plane could be sabotaged. Mr. Connell, a very experienced pilot, has had to abandon at least two flights in the past two months because of suspicious problems with his plane. On December 18, 2008, Mr. Connell flew to a small airport outside of Washington DC to meet some people. It was on his return flight the next day that he crashed.”

    • John

      Bush may have began a debt, however, Mr. Bush’s debt was only in the billions. Where as Obama’s debt took us into the multiple or Trillions and climbing. Where do you get off with your louzy insignificance you call thought as to Mr. Bush?
      It was and since his re-election still is and will be for at least 4 mo’ yrs. be Obama’s debt to increase and totally degrade the Citizens of the U.S.of A. Just look at what his epa has done to American jobs since he first obtained his position of president. Then, take a close look at those 500,000 jobs he said he helped to make – They went over seas. NOT one stayed here in America.

    • Stephanie

      No, dimwit, the Republicans did NOT put us in the position we are in now. If you knew anything, and you do NOT, you’d know that something called the Community Reinvestment Act caused the majority of the problems we have now. Jimmy Carter started it and Slick Willie Clinton doubled down on it. It was nothing more than a bill to ensure the minority vote. It forced banks to lend money to people who didn’t need it so they could buy a house. Because liberals see “rights” where they don’t exist. That is what caused the banking collapse. Obama and the Democrats have spent $6 TRILLION in only 4 years. That deficit amount is more than Presidents Washington through Bush COMBINED. Companies have already announced thousands of layoffs since Hussein’s election due to Obamacare. I expect unemployment to skyrocket in the next few months. We’ll all be paying higher taxes because Obamacare won’t be repealed and it’s all because of dumb[expletive deleted] like you. So not only will the rest of us suffer, I hope Obama supporters like you suffer twice as much as a result of his Communist policies.

    • mudguy

      So it still is Bush’s fault. You need to stop drinking the dumbocrats coffee. I too am 69 and before Obummer I was getting $4,000 a year interest on my IRAs, now $900. Your Obummer did nothing for his two years to help the economy when he had both the Senate and the Congress. All he did was put a nail in the coffin of the worlds best healthcare system. I do hope that you being 69 that you stay heathy because you will have to get your governments permission to have a stint, joint replaced and if you are released from a hospital you can’t be readmitted back for any reason for thirty days. Sure sounds good to me. Oh hope you will able to even find a doctor.Majority of doctors are going to either quit or cut back on taking medicare patients and a lot of are going to quit altogether. Oh yes over $700 billion have taken from your medicare to pay for your wonderful NEW HEALTHCARE. You have forgotten that your dumbocrats had control Congress the last two years of Bush’s. Your Barney Franks was over Freddy and Fanny and look what happen the housing market. Time your dumbocrats take part of the responsibility. What happen to cutting the deficit in half in four years. So if Bush’s deficit was unpatriotic what doubling it patriotic? A real American would have never voted for this man. Hope you will happy living in the new USSA that he has created and the freedoms you have lost and the freedom you will be loosing.

    • Be123

      OMG… look, it’s a walking, talking, Obamabot. It keeps repeating all the empty sentences the liberal media put in it’s empty little head. How cute…..NOT!!!!! 69 and you still don’t have any sense.

      • olinda

        you all see what happens en New Jersy …the governor take the president around to check the missery the people is living…and he said to them help is in the way…every body jump happy they run give the vote to him so he winn the elections and no help is coming for the people..did you see what i see….they going to cold,hungry,no gas,no money……bad…bad..God bless them,and people across help ,becouse they need it………

    • Firewagon

      “Obama may not have fixed everything but at least we are moving in the right direction.”

      You may ‘believe’ ‘you’ are moving in the right direction; however, America’s economy is not! In 2008, under your blame game target Bush, the American economy was still ranked numero- uno, #1 in the world – today(?), not so much, we are #5 and falling……….as they say, you can take that to the bank, or perhaps not!

      • http://yahoo.com Joann Flanagan

        Well if you consider religious persecution the right direction we certainly are moving tward it under Ceasar Obamus Obominus!
        Joann Flanagan

        • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

          By stopping the interference by employer’s of the Doctor/Patient relationship?

    • http://alsina846.wordpress.com George Ruiz

      you are Fool if you think that obama is moving in the right direction, it is the ilks of you that voted for this muslim undocumented communist back in office.

    • olinda

      I am a woman ;i learn form my parents and grandparents to be a woman and learn to be one..to learn to work hard if we want to prospere in live,and if we have children we have to teach them how to survive on this life …we have to work to get things we want and never count to get free money from the goverment as longer you have hands and feet to work….i love my country but i dont want to live like the sanganos in the beecolony living and not working ..i love to be free ,help and teach other ..be independen….and stay away from goverment…….

    • Jeff

      Can you explain how you know so much about Harriet? Have you been spying on her – following her to the Welfare Office? How many Cadillacs does she have?

      Why can’t you accept that millions of people disagreed with you and voted for President Obama. He won the popular majority and 332 electoral votes. You think all, or even most, of the people who voted for him were on Welfare? If you do, you’re even dumber than you appear.

      If I were anything like you, I’d assume from your last name, you must have snuck across and are trying to “pass” as legal. Can you prove you’re not an illegal wetback? I don’t suggest taking any trips to Arizona without your i.d. and your autographed picture with Mitt Romney and Tom Tancredo.

    • turfbarn80

      We’re moving in the right direction? I guess that means the amnesty he’s going to demand for the 20 million illegal aliens who will steal our representation and sovereignty doesn’t matter. It means we have to add 47 million people into a health care system with no more doctors than before, (including new illegal aliens who qualify without paying.) It also means stiffer fines for earning too much. Pummeling job creators will only mean continued high unemployment. It also means more audits of businesses who contributed to Republicans. How about the debt he was going to cut in half but added 6 trillion for us to pay off?
      Old Democrats on Social Security have a stake in ignoring what their party has become: a Socialist halfway house whose end goal is to create such economic overload and chaos that they can invent an excuse to dictate every term of our existence. Republicans make convenient scape goats. True, Republicans have spent too much but Democrats spend and borrow even more. How does that fix things?
      Obama’s idea of “fundamentally transforming” the U.S., means placing Communists and Muslims with ties to the Islamic Brotherhood in high positions. It means going around Congress whenever it gets in his way and issuing fiats like he’s an emperor. It means covering up a botched ATF operation selling guns to Mexican drug lords who killed a Border Patrol Agent with them. It means apologizing for America all over the world and insulting our oldest allies. It means ignoring days of warnings and pleas by our embassy personnel, then arresting an American film maker for inciting the “spontaneous” Benghazi attack. Obama is waging the most treacherous and malignant power grab we’ve ever seen, while fooling the gullible among us., who are concerned with free stuff and little else. If you’ve never heard of the things I just mentioned you exemplify the typical Democrat voter. Check out the “Obama phone” lady on YouTube to see another one.
      I hope you enjoy the IRS notice you’ll get in January demanding to prove you have insurance. Oh wait, you probably have medicare and won’t have to jump through the hoops we will.

    • BR549

      George wrote: “to harriet brown, you are a stupid person”

      Hey George, don’t be so hard on the girl. At age 69, she’s at a stage in her life where she was expecting to be able to retire and yet we all know she’s going to be in for a real bummer when she finds out what is REALLY happening.

      The PTB know all too well the effects of their decisions on the US population and they are actually expecting us to become unglued and start attacking each other out of total frustration and desperation. I think you know of all the preparations they have been making to that end. That is where we have to make choices.

      There will be many ZOMBIES out there after TSHTF, those who blissfully rock themselves to sleep at night having voted for their favorite candidate this last Tuesday. Truth is, as you know, there was absolutely nothing to celebrate, that is, of course, unless one was a masochist.

      Some people are going to be scared as the reality sets in, and some of those will be able to shake it off, step up to the plate, and want to learn how to field-strip an AR, others will roam the streets no different than the mindless zombies reflected in the all to frequent movies out presently, looking for food and water to steal, since they’d been brain dead up to this point; hence the reference to zombies. At the shooting ranges, they even have zombie targets: http://www.zombietargets.net/

      Who knows, Harriet might just knuckle up and become a great reloader or a damn good cook for the militia. People will either GET IT …….. or they won’t.

    • John

      You guys keeping blaming Bush for the current bad economy and you say no one could turn it around in four years, but what you do not realize is that the reason we feel this way is that Obama has not done much to fix the economy. Most things he is doing only makes it worse which includes massive spending, the war on energy, masssive regulations, raising taxes [obamacare has many taxes hidden in it], increase in the costs of medical care [obamacare has done this], massive give aways [free phones and food stamps, and the bail out of GM which has resulted in GM outsourcing jobs to china.

      • Smilee

        The exit polls last Tuesday ls that 60% still believe Bush was responsible for the economic disaster and that Obama needs more time to turn it around. This is why Romney’s take of the economy did not sell with the electorate and one of the reasons Obama won and much bigger than anyone expected

    • nickkin

      Cut the Blame-Bush-crap Harriet…….if the government lets you live long enough, you will use this poor moronic excuse for the next 8 years…..the blame game are the voters that can’t tell flim-flam from cotton mouth. Recognize your enemy or go back to your happy ending, feel good leftist-commie hollywood stories. The current reality – program is an administration that allowed 4 dead americans to entertain the leftist voters. When they win the oscar you can all claim the title to say ” I helped write this script and I deserve this entitlement of winning the ” oscar-meyer weini trophy “.

    • Barbara

      At least President Bush didn’t travel the world apologizing for America. Maybe we should dig up the bodies of the thousands of American troops buried around the world and bring them home. We have nothing to apologize for.

      • BR549

        Barbara wrote: “We have nothing to apologize for.”

        Well, that would depend on how much we happen to understand about what has been really happening to and from within our own country. As long as we still believe we have the right to all the world’s resources and to hell with any other country’s sovereignty, well, I suppose one can find some way to call anyone who objects to our attempts to build more empire as terrorists who hate freedom and democracy.

        The ONLY thing we have to apologize for is being too asleep at the switch, while these corporatist communist thugs have stolen the keys to our government offices.

        • Ana

          No Capitalist stole anyone’s resources anywhere in the world. We purchase the world’s resources. It is not up to capitalists to police what the leaders of those countries do with the money they get for their resources.

          The left is always screaming about the Imperial West, but I’m sure there’s not a slave living under the communist state that wouldn’t have change places with someone living under imperialism. Funny how leftist avoid that comparison.

          • BR549

            Ana wrote: “No Capitalist stole anyone’s resources anywhere in the world. We purchase the world’s resources.”

            Yeah, right. I think you need a refresher course in US History concerning Allen Dulles, the CIA, United Fruit, and the slaughter of Guatemalan tribesman so that Americans could have more bananas on their tables.

            Author John Perkins wrote a great book called, “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man”. Try reading that before commenting on how we so graciously and fairly we compensate others for THEIR resources.

          • Jeff

            It is true that the CIA was involved in lots of shady activity concerning third world countries prior to Frank Church’s committee made that activity a bit more difficult – Guatemala, Chile, Iran. Why does Ana think the revolutionaries in Iran in 1979 and since have referred to us as The Great Satan? It was the CIA that intervened in 1954 to overthrow Mosaddegh and install the Shah. It didn’t take much either. The Brits were afraid Mosaddegh was going to nationalize British oil interests so they whispered the magic word in Ike’s direction (“socialist”) and the deed was done.

    • http://yahoo.com Joann Flanagan

      Ceasar Obamus Abominus is certainly erasing Civil Libertys! Look at the way he attacks the Ist Amendment with Sibelious’ Mandate!
      Joann Flanagan

    • http://yahoo.com Joann Flanagan

      Ceasar Obamus Obaminus is certainly erasing Civel Libertys with his decadent attack on the Ist Amendment!
      Joann Flanagan

  • Harold Olsen

    The economic downturn actually started with Clinton and got worse with Bush. Obama, however, made it worse. He has not even made an attempt to fix the economy. In fact, he’s gone out of his way to make it worse. All he wants to do is spend, spend, spend and that never helps the economy. He”s a worthless POS and deserves to be thrown out of office. If Romney wins, do I think things will improve? Well, I don’t call him Obamaclone for nothing. He may make slight variations on Obama’s policies but, for the most part, I believe he will continue them. One thing I am almost certain of, he will not get rid of Obamacare. He created it via Romneycare and will not get rid of his own creation. I didn’t vote for either of them, but, I will say this, if things improve, even slightest under Romney and he DOES get rid of Obamacare in its entirety, I will vote for him in 2016. He did not give me a reason to vote for him this time around and he will need to give me a very good reason to vote for him the next time. There is only one way he can do that and that is to turn things around even a little bit and shrink the damn government so we don’t have a bunch of useless bureaucrats running things.

    • willie lee

      Well said Harold. But I don’t think you give Romney enough credit. Yes he’s been wishy washy but he’s got the smarts for business and has the heart for causes that empower people.

      • http://Facebook Elise Robb

        You are right Willie I agree with you 100% he is a smart man and we can not say that about Obama, he is a total IDIOT. His brain is fried from all the drugs he did in his college years and with his friends in Chicago. Romney some how will fix our country no matter what this person said here, I have faith that he will do all he can to bring us back to be the America we were or close to it. The last 4 years have being like the most stressfull years for many people including me. God Help Us if for some reason Obama cheats with those people who are voting 3 and 4 times in Ohio and some of the states that they do not require ID cards because then we will be in real trouble. We will be in worse shape than Europe is now with the Euro.

      • DaveH

        Both of them are smart men, Elise, and they both are making fools out of many of the voters.
        Why so many people acknowledge the tyranny that has been the normal case throughout History, but then turn a blind eye to our own Leaders is something I have never figured out.
        Of course they aren’t going to tell us — “Yes, I am taking advantage of you, so that me and my fellow Cronies can live high at your expense”. How long do you think they’d last with such honesty?

      • Ana

        Ultimately, we the people are to blame for all our financial problems by electing lawyers to represent us. What the hell do lawyers know about finances? Shouldn’t we be electing economists, accountants, and business people who actually had to balance a budget? Oops, scratch the last one. We had a chance for a great businessman who created thousands of US jobs but we ditched him for a loser with a bad track record. I have absolutely no doubt we are going to rue that day.

    • Smilee

      willie lee says:
      November 6, 2012 at 7:27 am

      He is running for President not Business man of the year, President is managing a government and not a business and require two very different skill sets. Look at his four years as Governor of Mass. where he was a failure and demonstrated his incompetence in that job and will most likely do the same if president.

      • brenda

        Romney can’t be any worse than o dumbass .

      • hesiod

        wait until you see what your groid in chief does now. America deserves the destruction he is bringing, we have become a nation of parasites.

      • nickkin

        You got your facts wrong smilee….he pulled mass. out of the red. It seems that you picked up a common disease that o-jackass has……lie-ectomy of the larnyx.

    • Ana

      Harold, you’re mistaken about the Bush aspect of running up the deficit. Read my post to Harriet above for a fully researched explanation of why we are where we are at today. BTW, no insult but you were a fool not to vote against Obama. I have no doubt that he is determined to collapse this economy. I hope for your sake you are self-reliant and living in a rural area where you can hunt and fish to survive. Because if the economy collapses and the dollar follows suit you’ll have to wait in line to dumpster dive for food.

  • JimH

    May the best candidate win. (although we may not all agree who that may be)

    • http://Facebook Elise Robb

      I honestly believe that Romney will be best regardless, at least he will follow the constitution and he will not try to turn us into an Islamic country, we are a christian nation. Romney did mention in one of his speaches about how China wanted to take over and deminish the value of dollar so I am sure he meant he will not let them do that. Obama will make US worse than it is now, all he cares is about his muslim brotherhood and he will give all our tax payers money to them. I think it makes a differfence who wins and is not Obama, we had enough of him way to long. He should have being inpeached a long time ago.

      • mark

        Elise, Newsflash: all our tax money goes to defense, entitlements (Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid), social programs, and corporate welfare. All our tax money does not go to the Muslim brotherhood. What planet are you living on?

      • DaveH

        This man runs circles around Obama and Romney when it comes to honesty, understanding of Freedom, and understanding of Economy:
        http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/

      • Smilee

        Elise Robb says:
        November 6, 2012 at 7:31 am

        How do you know Romney will follow the Constitution???? We know Obama will as every law brought to the Supreme Court that he signed into law has been upheld by them so that is of concern go with the known result.

      • Ted Crawford

        “every law brought to them….has been upheld by them” ONLY because Justice Roberts,(legislating from the Bench) took it upon himself to re-write PPACA! The Law was originally written to use Article 1 Section 8, Clause 3 as it’s authority! In that format it was found to be UN CONSTITUTIONAL! Roberts re-wrote it using Article 1,Section 8, Clause 1 as it’s authority, thereby enacting the largest, single purpose, tax increase in the history of the United States!

      • brenda

        If we are lucky Romney will remove all rag head muslim from our government.

      • Mary

        You really need to get out of that right wing bubble you are listening too. Do you even listen to yourself? So the right screamed about Obama sitting in Rev. Wright’s Christian church for over 20 yrs and you still think him a Muslim? You should do a little more research on that religion. Muslims do not drink alcohol and the President is often seen at ball games and etc drinking beer. NO one has ever seen him stop what he was doing to put down his prayer rug, kneel and pray at scheduled times of the day. These are mandatory for Muslims. Obama did not live with his father who left when he was a baby and went back to Africa. He was raised by his white Mother and Grandmother in America. Yes, he is half black and he has the right to embrace his Aftrican roots, just as I have the right to embrace my Scottish, English, Irish roots. That does not make me wish to change how I live in this country. President Obama is a decent family man who raises his children to be good caring citizens. He is more like the average American and believes in helping those who are suffering from loss of jobs, poverty and illness. If that makes him a bad person, then I side with him. Thanks to his healthcare bill, all Americans will benefit from some of the rules in place and even those with good health insurance cannot be dropped if they cost their company too much or be refused by a company if they have a pre-existing condition and kids can remain on their parents policies for 4 more years til they are 26. He signed the Lily Ledbetter act which guarantees women will get equal pay for equal work. He has stood up for our Veterans making sure they get the benefits they need, especially those wounded from the two wars we have been involved in the past years. He gave orders to kill Bin-Laden and many of the thugs in that regime. He bailed out the banks and the auto industry which are thriving again and they have paid back most of that money. It turned out to be the right decision because the US is coming out of the recession faster than other countries who just let things take their course when the recession hit arount the world. The stock market is soaring, housing is again on the upswing and jobs are steadily coming back. The President wants growth in Science and Technology that will ensure we keep up with the rest of the world and remain a strong power. He wants all Americans to be able to have access to higher education which will also benefit our country as well as those who seek it. Financial Advisors will tell you the recession is over and it does not matter who is President, the economy will continue to improve as it has always done throughout history. These are cycles of highs and lows that are normal ocurrances. YOU have not lost any of your freedoms in the 4 yrs Obama has been our President. You can still vote, you can still worship the way you wish and President Obama wishes to maintain the course we are own so your freedoms will not change. He wants to raise taxes on the very wealthy only 4%, the same as it was when Clinton was President, which will help bring down the debt. He has lowered taxes on the middle class and given tax breaks to small businesses. He will not make this country Muslim or Socialist or any other lie the right wings has tried to scare you with. Fear is their number one weapon to get your vote. I do not know about you, but I would rather my tax dollars go to helping struggling Americans than giving billions to oil companies that already make profits in the billions. I would rather help struggling Americans than have my tax dollars go to foreign countries to help those people have health care and food. I would rather my tax dollars go to help Americans and social programs than to unjustified wars that are started for political reasons. If that makes me a bad person, well bring it on. That makes me a Democrat.

        • Jeff

          The freedom Elise has lost is her memory of the past with a President who looked like her!

      • Ana

        Mark, I have a newsflash for you. We gave 1.5 billion to Egypt which is now run, thanks to Obama, by the Muslim Brotherhood.

      • Ana

        Mary, Obama’s false prophet friend, Jeremiah Wright, was a former Muslim. But there is a problem with that because in Islam there is no such thing as apostacy. Which means once a Muslim always a Muslim. For a Muslim it is acceptable and even encouraged to lie about your true beliefs to infidels (that’s me and you, unless you happen to be a Muslim, then you should know this already). This goes far to explain why his sermons have nothing to do with Christianity and everything to do with political rants against the United States and Israel. Wake up!

      • Smilee

        Ted Crawford says:
        November 6, 2012 at 9:32 am

        Obama’s solicitor general argued in oral arguments before the court that it was constitutional under both paragraph one and three of article one, section eight, the court said it was constitutional under paragraph one and not under three and in the decision that no matter the label put on it taking money from the electorate was a tax. Roberts stuck to the arguments made before the court and did not himself inject his view, just ruled on its constitutionally and he got right despite the fact you do not like it which makes you in favor of him legislating from the bench.

        • Ana

          Obamacare has no language in it that it was a tax, nor was the bill written as a tax. The law originated out of the Senate because the Dems were selling it as a purchase, not a tax. Since the Supreme Court has ruled that the law is indeed a tax, it would have had to be initiated as a bill in the House. That never happened. Congressman Charlie Rangel introduced H.R. 3590, titled the “Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009″ to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 modifying the first-time homebuyers’ credit for members of the Armed Forces and certain other Federal employees. That bill was unanimously passed in the House. It was then sent on to the Senate where Harry Reid gutted H.R. 3590, deleted all the contents after the first sentence, and replaced it with what became the “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act” of November 19, 2009. Harry Reid did a criminal act when he tampered with the original bill and passed it off as a bill originating from the House, which it clearly was not, and was a clear violation of the Origination Clause. Roberts, or any other judge, does not have the constitutional authority to create or rewrite law. The court only has the authority to judge whether the commerce clause (which was why everyone went to court to begin with) was constitutional or not.

  • GALT

    “It will not even be about getting to the next election. It will be about survival. ”

    Brandon Smith is the founder of the Alternative Market Project, an organization designed to help you find like-minded activists and preppers in your local area so that you can network and construct communities for barter and mutual aid. Join Alt-Market.com today and learn what it means to step away from the unstable mainstream system and build something better.

    C’mon Brandon……no shocking video?

  • Jim B

    This is a time for getting it done, candidate Obama could not execute, he failed to become President following the 2008 election. He is still candidate Obama. Romney is already transitioning into a President.

  • Craig

    Sorry, but Ron Paul isn’t in the race any longer. Romney, along with the TEA party congress members will start to turn our country around. It’s going to take time and will be painfull, but we have to move in the right direction. If Obama wins re-election, we are done, period.

    • http://personallibertydigest Joel

      If obama gets re-elected it will take 7 generations to undo his damage and that is if we go straight to undoing it after his next four years. This is a true assessment.

      • mark

        No, it is not a true assessment, Joel. It is simply your conjecture. No one can predict with any certainty where our country or our economy will be 4 years from now.

      • Elda

        I remember years ago the left saying the drought was so bad it would take several years of higher than normal rain fall to refill the reservoirs in central California. Within a few months of this proclamation we had one storm that not only filled the reservoirs but caused extensive flooding. I take these statements of “it will take years” with a grain of salt. God is in charge and it will take as long as it takes for His people to turn their hearts to Him.

      • Ted Crawford

        While i understand your positions here mark and Elda, I find myself agreeing with Joe! I agree with Patrick Henry in attempting to predict the future. “I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no other way of judging the future but by the past”

      • Mary

        So Joel, how do you know so much? Do you have a crystal ball or is it possible you are listening to the doom and gloom right wing? If there is civil unrest and fighting in this country if Obama is re-elected, it will come from the frightened right wing who would really like to see this happen. Sane people will continue the way they always have ,earning a living, raising their families, attending their desired church of worship and making the country a good place to live. The President did not change your world drastically in the past 4 yrs,. If you do not have a job and I do not know if you do or not, he did not take it away from you but he did extend the unemployment benefits for folks for over two years. If more people are on food stamps, that is the reason. Obviously you have been watching the movie 2016 which is fiction written by a foreigner from India who now lives here in the US and is a conservative right winger. He has never even talked to or met Obama but he claims to know what is in his heart by doing some research on his father in Kenya, who is dead and never lived with his son. Really? HO hum!

      • http://yahoo.com Joann Flanagan

        Two Centuries of Religious Freedom gone overnight thanks to Obamacare!
        Joann Flanagan

    • DaveH

      No there is no Ron Paul, but there is Gary Johnson who is a close replacement since Ron won’t run, and by voting for him you won’t be rubber-stamping the non-choice that the PTBs have put before you:
      http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/front

      • Smilee

        But you would also be assured of losing, it is a cop out vote as it has absolutely no effect and probably would help Obama win

      • DaveH

        The cop-out vote is the one cast for somebody you don’t agree with because they have a better chance of winning. I will vote for the Principled Politician every time whether they can get enough intelligent votes to win or not.

  • willie lee

    This guy is so unbelieveably jaded he just speaks in absolutes without backing-up his conjecture.

    • DaveH

      Please enlighten us, Willie.

      • mark

        Dear DaveH,

        I read your article and am also well aware that the Founding Slaveholders did not believe that the people should have anything to do with electing the president democratically. This should be done by an elite group of electors – wealthy, educated, powerful men like themselves who could always shortcircuit the will of the people, regarded as dangerous to them. But powerful groups of electors were inevitably dominated by forces of the 2 central parties as they have been since the Early Republic and would never cast their votes for a minority third party candidate for the Presidency. Thus this system dooms Third Parties seeking the presidency to defeat.

      • DaveH

        You can’t even figure out how to put your comments in the right thread, mark, and you think the readers are going to put any credence in your very illogical comment? The Constitutional rules have nothing to do with the dominance of the two parties, and no matter many times you say they do, it still will not be true.
        Our Founders were smart enough to know from history that Democracies always devolve into 2 wolves and a sheep voting what’s for dinner, so in their wisdom they tried their best to protect us from such things. The voting rules were one such attempt, but as many of the Founders knew, the protections they wrote are useless without an educated populace.

  • canoworms27

    In 2016 if things have not improved, look for the Tea Party to have a third party candiate to run?

    • mark

      Fine, except under our Constitution with its Electoral College, no third party candidate can EVER win. You can thank the Founding Slaveholders for that. Thanks to their undemocratic system of electing presidents Romney may gain a majority of the popular vote and still lose the election just as Al Gore did in 2000.

      • DaveH

        Explain to us how the Electoral College keeps out 3rd parties, mark.

      • DaveH

        For those who don’t understand the wisdom of the Presidential election system as presented by our Founders:
        http://mises.org/daily/545

        In a nutshell, why would States join a Union where the most populous states would have a huge advantage over the least populous states in the elections of the President and Vice-President?

      • http://none Charlie

        mark,,,
        Yep, you have pointed out the big problem,,,but,, who’s going to fix it ???

      • DaveH

        Mark hasn’t pointed out anything except that he can make fallacious arguments.

        • Donald Darden

          True enough, David, but I see the Electoral College as a key element to the way out of the mess we are in, so don’t slam it too hard.

    • mark

      DaveH, the Constitution doesn’t keep third parties out but it make it almost impossilbe for them to win since a party has to capture a plurality in each individual state to win it in the electoral college. This favors the 2 large established parties especially in the big, decisive states, such as Caifornia, New York, Florida, Texas. Given their sizes, organizational strengths, and fundraising abilities, the big parties are virtually unbeatable in these large, populous states vs. smaller third parties. They are in effect 2 giant monopolies that make it almost impossible for smaller parties to win. Under a more parlimentary system, third parties have more influence and representation and they can also tip the balance in the formation of ruling coalitons, such as in Europe, in Israel, Japan, etc and gain at least some of their goals.

      • DaveH

        You didn’t even read the article I posted, did you Mark?
        Nevertheless, your comment proves nothing about your original statement which was — “Fine, except under our Constitution with its Electoral College, no third party candidate can EVER win”.
        The Constitution and its “Electoral College” have nothing to do with whether a 3rd party can win or not.

  • Elizabeth

    What lies you are speading…Obama is the one that will bring total destruction to our country. Romney has no such plans. You are an idiot.

    • Karolyn

      Wow! Are YOU misinformed! Do some homework. No matter who is elected, nothing ever changes. Have you seen any changes? It doesn’t matter if Mr. Smith goes to Washington. They always have to follow what has been laid out for them even if they start out fresh-faced and optimistic, which Romney certainly isn’t.

  • Raymond Kenick

    GUYS, nothing is going to change to you get a complete house cleaning in Washington all they care about is lining there own pockets

    • Elda

      How do you see Romney lining his pockets if he is going to donate his pay to charity? He is not in it for the money…..he has his and wishes for everyone else to have an opportunity to get theirs. He knows the government is in the way of that happening. He is just tired of all the handouts.

      • DaveH

        Oh please, Elda.
        The President’s salary is just the tip of the iceberg. There are far greater perks than that available to those who choose to represent the Crony Capitalists. And the greatest draw of them all is the Power that is craved by those who gravitate towards Leadership positions:
        http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/beware-the-psychopath-my-son/

        • Jeff

          CB:

          Kudos on reading something other than Ayn Rand and Austrian economists. I wouldn’t have thought you one to frequent such a liberally-oriented website.

      • DaveH

        Another ad hominem attack from Jeff who can’t present a logical argument so must stoop to manipulative tactics.

  • billbranch

    Obama must go. Romney can at least start to reverse the damage done by the socialist and his ilk. Ironically, this morning on the radio (on an NPR segment) the speaker was describing the earliest elections. The participants were white male property owners. How far we have fallen in what people think is progress.

    • DaveH

      If Romney makes it, Bill, you can get back to us in a few years and tell us how he’s made our country less Socialistic.

  • Nanci Rubin

    Seems Brandon should get his head out of the clouds and look at what IS happening. Maybe he should have watched 2016. No matter who gets in, God is still in ultimate control and His will be done. Sad to see young people as jaded as Brandon. Maybe he should have lived through a thing, before speaking beyond his limited experiences. Folks, wake up. Bush is not running. The Dems have been in control, Clinton screwed the country over and all the liberal mindset scream, “foul, foul.” So sad.

  • http://www.facebook.com/george.somsel George Somsel

    Brandon Jeremiah, you are the idiot, not the people who expect that if Romney is elected things will improve. I think that in addition to the obvious things such as the repeal of Obamacare (or neutering it if we don’t win the Senate), we will see a return to greater civility. One of the tragedies of the current administration is the corsening of society with the encouragement of unrestricted sexual activity and homosexuality to the point where contraception and abortion can be broached as an issue in the election. The President tends to set the moral tone of the country. Obama has signaled his encouragement of low standards by his association with rappers (note that I do not call them artists) who tend to live in the gutter.

    • http://personallibertydigest Joel

      George you almost said it, it’s a choice of character and so many in the last election could not see Obama’s astounding lack of character. The question is if you can’t see an obvious lack of character what does that say about YOURS?

      • mark

        Yeah, Joel, Obama can’t match the sterling moral character of Willard Romney, billionaire corporate raider and company wrecker. He’s a man all our children can look up to with pride.

    • mark

      Earth to George, the rappers Obama associates don’t live in the gutter: they live in mansions. Most of them are highly successful capitalists, members of the 1%. Their top rate will rise from 35% to 39% like all the movie stars and film executives who back Obama. And they support this. They are willing to pay slightly higher taxes to the federal government which they have stated over and over again in their support for Obama. They want to pay higher taxes to their government.

      • stopspending

        The .01% can pay the additional taxes. It is the small business owners that will struggle. And what will the gov do with that extra money? More solyndras? More bailed out financial comp and auto industry? More shovel ready jobs that “weren’t so shovel ready”? Spending is the real problem, not taxes. Until we get spending under control, you can tax 100% and we will still not solve our problems.

    • DaveH

      George says — “I think that in addition to the obvious things such as the repeal of Obamacare (or neutering it if we don’t win the Senate), we will see a return to greater civility”.
      Why do you suppose Romney will get rid of ObamaCare, since he sponsored the template for it, RomneyCare?
      How do you suppose that Romney will return us to greater civility when he doesn’t even want to afford that right to citizens in Foreign Countries where we have no business being?
      How can you give the benefit of the doubt to a man who supports the National Defense Authorization Act with it’s Constitution-busting indefinite detainment provisions?
      We will continue to have lesser and lesser civility because one-size does not fit all, so as long as we have Big Government imposing their will on us and other citizens around the world, about half of the population is going to be always pissed off.
      The only way we are ever going to get back to civility is with Individual Freedom, Personal Responsibility, Free Markets, and Limited Government. And there is only one Political Party which embraces those Principles:
      http://www.lp.org/platform

    • Karolyn

      George – So. St.Mitt is going to singlehandedly civilize our society! In order to do what you propose, he would have to institute laws against many civil liberties: outlaw homosexuals, etc. etc. You would have the country go backwards and be the laughingstock of the world. (which, btw, wants to see Obama re-elected). You people are just so up-tight and self-important and self-righteous. Down with anybody who is’t like you! That is NOT what this country is about. As far as a lack of civility, your “side’ has contributed to that as much as anybody, and people will not change, unfortunately. (starting with the politicians)

      • DaveH

        Karolyn says — “You people are just so up-tight and self-important and self-righteous”.
        Ahh, you gotta love her Positivity.

      • JeffH

        “Ahh, you gotta love her Positivity.” :) …and her hypocrisy…

      • deerinwater

        Saint Mitt ! Oh Karolyn , ~ that’s funny! Saint Mitt and Bronco Obama , too funny ~

        So much for Roots Christian Land side. ~

  • Devora

    There is choice: the lesser of 2 evils! Obama is evil personified, a radical muslim; he is just such a good liar. We definitely don’t want him! So please don’t put an American and a muslim in the same boat.

    • http://personallibertydigest Joel

      nothing good about a liar!

  • Fred

    I agree there is nothing left but an illusion of choice, a left-right facade, lesser of two evils, but personally I don’t feel as fully prepared as I would like to be for the proverbial s__t hitting the fan and would like a little breathing room to earn and better prepare for the apparently inevitable. That being the case, no matter how dismal a potential failure a Romney presidency turns out to be, the initial rah-rah feel good buzz of an Obama defeat will get people investing again and give me the opportunity to save before the fall. An Obama win will destroy any chance of that.

  • Ted Crawford

    Don’t you guys EVER get tired of this constant Anti-American, actually Anti- anything but Ron Paul, immature rhetoric! You, blinded by idealism, would turn over the reins of the Nation to the one person who would absolutely guarantee the end of America!
    From his Isolationist( I know ‘noninterventionalist’[ die, expire, crook, pass away,etc.]) Foreign Policy, to his Maginot Line, Medieval Seige mentality National Defense Policy, it’s a none starter! It’s actually akin to a KKK member, in full regalia, strolling into a Black Panther meeting singing ” Can’t touch this” ! It begs, no DEMANDS attack, sooner rather than later!

    • DaveH

      Are you just naive, Ted, or does the power of taking other peoples’ lives excite you?

      • Ted Crawford

        ” An Idealist is one who, on noticing that a Rose smells better than a Cabbage, concludes that it will also make better soup” H.L. Mencken
        DaveH you are welcome to all the ‘Rose soup’ you want. While it wouldn’t be my first choice, I’ll still take the Cabbage soup, thank You anyway!

      • DaveH

        I didn’t think you could give me a rational answer.

  • Elda

    Wow Brandon…..aren’t you just a little ray of sunshine. Don’t you know most of us reallize it doesn’t make any difference? Most of us know it has already been set up for us to fall. For me at least it means the difference between being shot in the back as I run away…..obama, or standing up with my chin held high and taking it in the heart trying to do the right thing, not that I believe Ronmey is the right thing….but I am still standing up for the United States Constitution. Maybe we can hang on long enough through the crash to pull that out of the ashes and build again. Of course that will be after all the progressives have eaten each other.

  • http://www.facebook.com/walter.back.39 Walter Back

    The bottom line is we the people need to stand up and take back what our forfathers fought for and gave us this once great country. Now this generation today has/is giving it all away under the false hope and change promise. So wake up folks and lets start with Immigration reform and the rule of law.

  • Edward J. Krigbaum

    You guys didn’t go back far enough. Jimmy Carter and his Democrat Congress passed the CRA (Community Reinvestment Act) This was legislation that forced bank to make loans to people who didn’t qualify. Bill Clinton and his Demo Congress passed legislation that put teeth in the enforcement of the CRA. That’s why we had a housing boom, a lot more tax revenue in the Treasury, and “apparent” prosperity. But, it was all going to fall apart sometime, and it began at the end of Bush’s term and finished at the beginning of Obama’s. The Keynes philosophy of the gov’t spending it’s way out of a financial downturn simply added to prolong the misery. )Just like it did with Hoover and Roosevelt) Barack Obama, Chrs Dodd, and Barney Frank provided the cover for the people at Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac, so they could make the millions in bonuses and then skip out of town. All of these people: Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Franklin Raines, Jim Jones, Jaimie Gorelick. Maxine Waters, Diane Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, and a whole host of [expletive deleted] in the government were all involved in the conspiracy to destroy this country, and sholud be prosecuted for TREASON, or in the case of some, incompetence, and should spend major time in a rock pounding jail. That’s the only way others who come along later will get the messaage: don’t mess with the American People.

    • Leanne

      AMEN! Finally a bit of truth!

    • Smilee

      The legislation did not force banks to give loans to someone who did not qualify but if they did qualify then they could not discriminate. Two very different things. Giving loans to those whom did not qualify was the banks decision. Not all banks did this and if you were right then all would have had to do this. This recession was caused by the banking industry and is also the reason for Greece, Spain,Ireland, Iceland and others to a lesser degree whom all invested heavily in these toxic banking instruments. Canada, Norway and others did not and their economy’s are fine and some booming. True, our government looked the other way when it was happening but blame the guilty not the ones you wish were guilty.

      • Ted Crawford

        Come on Smilee, even Jimmy knew it was a flawed act! After getting it passed and taking all the applause and pats on the back, and clearly believing it would get him re-elected, that is, if he never used it to expose those flaws, he did absolutely nothing with it! It just sat there on the books untill LBJ, attempting to create his “Great Society”, foolishly attempted to use it! Every administration from then on used it untill the flaws finally collapsed the Economy!

        • Smilee

          Your knowledge of history what is flawed here

      • Ted Crawford

        I know ! I got the names wrong! ment to say that Carter was attempting to upstage Johnsons “Great Society’ with CRA, and that it was Bill Clinton who first used CRA!

  • mark

    OK, Brandon, I guess I’m one of “the hyper-gullible segment of the populace that continues to play the game.” One of ” those idiots,” you talk about with the charity that is so characteristic of this site and its authors. Because I am going to go out and vote today — and nothing you or anyone else says will stop me. Heroes like you will stay home and not vote. Congratulations on your courage. It stands in stark contrast to the obvious cowardice of those American who stood in line for hours in Ohio and Florida to vote early these past view days, and those who will wait in long lines to vote today – you know “those idiots,” who believe in a democratic republic as all our ancestors have for so many generations.

    Maybe you could hang out a banner on your home: “Hooray for Apathy!” I see by your photo that you are quite young. I guess you represent the New America. It must be too much of a hassle for you to participate in the elections guaranteed to us under the Constituion. It is that Constitution and its electoral college that prevents the viability of legitimate third parties like the Libertarians. Maybe you should work to amend that part of the document and move toward the popular election of our presidents in the future. I would genuinely support you there.

  • Chester

    Mr. Smith, if you truly believe all that you have stated herein, it is time and past for you to pack up your bags and head for some other country. Just off hand, I can think of none that would match your expectations of absolute liberty with absolute safety from all harm. It seems that pair are always at cross purposes, and can not exist simultaneously. You can have absolute liberty only if you are the only one existing in a given area, and absolute safety only in the grave. Life is all about compromise, which is a word the Tea Party seems to have forgotten exists in the English language.

  • hanna

    I look at all of those who will vote for obama and i shudder. If you are homosexual,lesbian,child molester,muslim brotherhood,black panther,approve of killing babies and the eldery,dead,illegal alien,Iranian,government worker,union thug,islamic terrorist,convicted felon,Mao supporter,communist,bin laden..then you will vote for obama.

    • Texas Ride

      Exactly Hanna!

      Those amoral, criminals make up the majority of omaumau’s supporters! The one percenters that support him, EXPECT REWARDS and lucrative deals. What else needs to be said!

      Omaumau likes money to spend! He takes as much of it as he can for HIMSELF! And, the moocher, is also a money grubber, wasting tax dollars on expensive clothes, and her own entertainment. Omaumau has bought himself an estate in Hawaii, with our money and his bank accounts grow with each outrageous deal and the kick-backs that come with it. Why are Americans willing to SETTLE for his crimes and treason! WE don’t have to settle for the status quo! It can be changed!

    • Karolyn

      Oh, please, get real!

  • John Galt

    Nothing will change, remember it has always been George W. Bush’s fault since LBJ’s administration. I suggest you all shut up, buy Gold, Silver & Lead. Cherishing the 2nd Amendment. Proscribe and repatriate all Moslems including Obama & Bill Maher The Rioter.

  • http://rvsisters.wordpress.com apoloticalpundt

    They always say that a person deserves what they get, but I have been voting for years and all I am going to get is what everyone who didn’t vote, wanted big brother government to take care of the, etc., etc., deserves!! It’s a little disconcerting and definitely not what they taught in school!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/gregbeaty Greg T Beaty

    It is funny that Obama and supporters seem to want to blame anyone but Obama. It has been four year already. Why do the Democrats always blaming someone else for the problem they created? A real leader take what they are given and make it better something Obama has not done.

    • http://NotAvailable Philip A. Sandi

      Obama was busy cleaning the mess that republicans created by running America broke with their two unnecessary wars. After the clean-up you want to come and take over? NOOOOOOOOO! Wait for 2020

      • Ted Crawford

        Who do you think you are kidding here Philip? Should the fates prove they hate us and Obama be re-elected, he could honestly, for the first time, blame his problems on the last administration!

    • Elda

      One word……NARCISSISM!

  • Jon

    I think you all missed the point of this article. You have no real clue what’s going on. The US is being dismantled by our own politicians both major parties are doing it. Through executive order every president AFTER Reagan is party to this. BOTH parties. Not just Republican, nor Democrat, both. Reread the article. We are being put into a NEW WORLD ORDER. The middle class is too rich compared to the rest of the world and needs to purchase less to be more fair to the rest of the world. But, keep blaming each other. The fact you are ready to fight each other is proof that you don’t understand what the UN is doing under sustainability. Dig deeper and look at the facts that are hidden in plain sight. Read the UN’s Agenda 21 and look at the articles put forth in the newspapers about tiny houses being great, about global warming (it’s larger than our planet, our whole solar system is), about everything happening. I know it’s tough, but the spin from our news agencies is legal and the FCC laws were changed so this could all happen. The world will become one big government and you will be told what you can eat or drink and what you can do. Keep the division going, and don’t bother looking into this because “it can’t happen here”. Information will be filtered so you can’t get the truth, nor talk to anybody about it. You will be labeled a radical if you don’t drink the Kool-aid the BOTH parties are giving you.

  • Lawrence

    It is a dismal looking future for America and the whole world, however, if you are a christian, look up . God is still on the throne and is in complete control. Our redemption draweth nigh. Jesus Christ is our only hope. I look forward to his return.

  • AMSOIL JOBBER

    STOCK UP ON “EVERYTHING”

  • http://NotAvailable Philip A. Sandi

    Your frustration is unfortunate. God understands what is happening in the United States. People with bad eyes don’t see and shouldn’t be heard for it but people with bad eyes of understanding are a menace to society. For they want everyone to agree with their views. And America is all about unity in diversity not uniformity. Barrack H. Obama believes in America’s freedom and wants everyone to live it Muslims, christian, Jews, Lesbians, Homosexuals, Literates and non-literates, Whites, Blacks, Hispanics and even animals, ghosts and spirits. This is why he will be judged by history as the better of all American presidents. Congratulations Barrack H. Obama!!!!

    • Elda

      Yuck….I just lost my breakfast.

      • Fred

        me too

    • Texas Ride

      You just heard from one of the “Fruits and Nuts.”

    • Ted Crawford

      Yes Philip, I see his tremendous efforts to unite us! ” The Election is over, I won”, Elections have consequences”, “They can come along, they just need to ride in the back”!
      with such an all inclusive attitude such as that it’s very hard to understand why we are even more divided as a Nation than ever before in History! At least it would be, if we lived in Progressive World!

  • stopspending

    There are really only two choices that have a chance to win this election. We already know that O will over promise, overspend, pick winners and losers with our money, leave our American’s unprotected and let them be killed, Is that what you want for four more years? Not sure we can return from that since he is enlarging the 47% that do not pay taxes to the tipping point where the voters are beginning to vote “free stuff” for themselves at the expense of the 50%. Romney has a history of turning things around – companies, states, Olympics. Pick a proven leader not someone that has experience only as a failing president or community leader, or someone that can not get elected this time. Vote for your local and state leaders to push the kinds of reforms we need.

  • http://personallibertydigest Louie

    Liberalism is a mental disorder

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

    Brandon Smith , There is One thing that we can say about a Big Difference between Obama and Romney regarding Romney wanting to keep a Strong Navy and Develop US Domestic Oil energy and why Thomas Jefferson Started the Navy , and in that difference between Obama and Romney I find that isn’t it Ironic that while Obama won’t call the Jihad Movement terrorism and continues to let Iran propagate their Nuclear Ambitions which would be a destabilizing event in the free market pricing of OIL , while actually saying they have won the war on terror and is planning Shrinking the Navy , it was because of Muslim Pirates that the Navy was Started by Thomas Jefferson to counter the Jihad of Muslim Pirates ???? http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/jefferson.asp

  • Leanne

    I am aware of Agenda 21 and the push for a NWO. Also aware of the attempt to control population. Looking out my window now and watching the planes fill our beautiful skies with chemical trails of aluminum, barrium, and strontium (since the late 90s). Neurological diseases are rampant. I am so frustrated but have nowhere to turn but God. I have lived the American dream but now I fear for my children and grandchildren. I have been trying to educate others but they just can’t believe a NWO could happen to us. I have only one vote so must make the best choice available. Instead of spending money on a candidate who doesn’t have a chance of winning, please take your funds and buy commercials that educate people about the dangers we face. Once they see the danger is real, they will accept an alternative candidate. Meanwhile, please support Romney who actually has a chance of winning and work with him.

  • Jensaus

    Gary Johnson is the peoples choice for POTUS.

    • Leanne

      Most people don’t even know the name Gary Johnson. How can he be their choice? I took an online presidential test with many questions. When my responses were tallied, I agreed with Romney 91%,with Johnson 56% and Obama 20%. Never looked at Johnson before because I didn’t want to waste my vote. Again, you must educate the populace about the dangers we face using tv commercials while the media still allows it.

  • Amber

    The best way I feel to respond is in voting for the Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson. 4 years ago when I worked with Ron Paul’s campaign, I heard over & over the concern that voting outside the two party system is a “wasted vote.”

    When one considers the content of this article the reverse becomes far more true. No, Gary Johnson will not win, nor would Ron Paul have, but when the democrats and republicans are all establishment candidates – right and left wings of the same bird – the same allegiance to the same group of elitist criminals… there is no choice. The house always wins… It seems to me that the most wasteful vote one can cast is for either Romney or Obama.

    Voting for the Libertarian candidate sends a message. The elitists will stop at nothing to put one of their chosen cronies in office. Going along with their game says you’re happy to lay down and let them march onward to the destruction of your country (shame on you)… Real patriotism is shown when you stand up and go the other way… when you step away from their game and petition to rewrite the rules. The more of us who vote our conscience and NOT the system, the more awake we show ourselves to be and THAT is the most powerful thing one can do with their vote today.

    We have little power left in our voting system. We don’t get to decide. Our leaders are appointed, as we have only an illusion of choice… If we want something to change to something other than more of the same crap, we gotta think outside the box. We can’t vote Obamney. We won’t get anyone else, but we can’t give our vote to either of them because either choice is a choice for more destruction of America. When people are no longer afraid to vote for who they believe in instead of the lesser of the evils they believe can win, then things could change… but until then I’ll be voting from my empowered philosophy and refusing to be part of the two party paradigm.

    • Jeff

      Amber:

      Your first problem is in accepting the premise of the article. Don’t. It’s nonsense.

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        JEFF Shouldn’t you let people like Amber be free to consider for themselves what we exchange as debate topics ??

    • Texas Ride

      Who is Gary Johnson!

      You are wasting your time.

      Maybe in another life when it doesn’t take a Billion Dollars to campaign for Presidency.

  • roger

    why waste more gas time and energy to vote. for what??

  • jim

    …While the people retain their virtue,and vigilance,no administration,by any extreme of wickedness or folly,can very seriously injure the government ,in the short space of four years… Lincoln’s 1st Inaugural Address

    It’s not that Democrats are ignorant. It’s just that they know so much that is not true. Ronald Reagan

  • Norm

    What a Bunch of beings ignorant to the real history of our government. The Democratic Party has a strong lead in the dictoral presidents that are the ones that have the real accountability for the morass that this nation. The president currently in office is as underhanded as Woodrow Wilson the man that wanted to destroy the inferior beings in this nation, and that is precisely the same mentality to a great extent as the incumbent dictator who believes that he should be the Big brother as indiated in Orwells “1984″. LBJ was real piece of work but the incumbent is guilty of treason against the Citizens of the United States. Only the congress has the authority to enact laws real historians of the constitution of this land would validate these charges. Mr. Romney is a man of tried and true integrity and has the godly foundation that made the Founders successful. Only the Carpetbaggers are to Blame for this nations gradual demise and the majority of those have been Democrats Unfortunately. Bribery has made wealthy those who swore to protect and defend all our rights and this nation.

  • Capitalist at Birth

    Unfortunately many of you have too much free time on your hands. Judging from the remarks and total distortion of facts, it does not surprise me that many of you are not gainfully employe. Good Luck. You will need lots of it. Now I must depart, as I have many more productive activities to pursue. Good Day.

  • William Parsons

    When are people going to realize that there is two Democrats running . One liberal and one conservative . They have different theologies but their Master is the same . Anything short of the Constitution is Evil . The Constitution is to prevent man from playing G*D . It is not a perfect world and man can not create a perfect world . There would be more peace and stability if man stop trying to control things with fear and what if’s . The last I knew in G*D we trust . Let’s get back to being a nation Under G*D make these peoplefollow the CONSTITUTION . Anything short of that is a nation under man .

  • http://alsina846.wordpress.com Linda From NYC

    What this article says that we have to evils, no matter who wins we are doom, the economy will falter and the one world system will be put in place. However Romney is the lesser of the two evils, at least he is not a muslim, and he won’t have your head decapitated. I rather take my chances with Romney than with obama, who thinks he is king and above the law. I do believe that Romney will win, all we can do is hope and pray for the best and for those of us who believe in God, read your Holy Bible , all of what is happening is coming to pass, is in the Bible. Nothing surprises me anymore,

    For Jesus said,

    Matthew 24:6 and you shall here of wars and rumors of wars, see that you be not troubled for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

    Matthew 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes in divers places,

    Matthew 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

    There is a lot more, if interested read it for yourself and you would be surprise that many prophesies coming to pass.

    God does not support same sex marriages (That is a abomination, God destroy Sodom and Gomorah)
    God does not support of killing, killing of babies ( abortions)
    God does not support a nation who is encouraging the enemies of Israel to divide their God given land. The judgment of God will fall on that nation.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gail.steelhammercohen Gail Steelhammer-Cohen

    Oh by all MEANS vote for Obama – it won’t matter – all you are thinking of is your money – how about your FREEDOM – your right to a fair hearing if you are accused of a crime – your right to KEEP your property and income – your freedom of speaking about your beliefs and your right to bear arms – there is so much more at stake here – what a bunch of morons

    • Patriot

      Amen! The fool fails to see what is right in front of their face!

      • Jeff

        If you think Romney will appoint Justices to the Supreme Court who believe in civil liberties, you are deluded. More Scalitos on the Court will mean the Bill of Rights (other than the 2nd amendment, of course) won’t mean much. It will be nearly impossible for a police officer to violate the 4th and 5th amendments and the 8th, well, we’ll be back to 1789.

    • Karolyn

      And you seriously believe Romney is any different??? They are all the same! However, at least Obama believes in the PERSONAL LIBERTY of allowing women the right to control of their own bodies Also, do you seriously want mor money going into the military and more bloodshed?

      • Texas Ride

        Women have always had the right to control their own bodies, they just prefer to ignore the fact that they get pregnant when they sleep with everyone that comes along!

        And, I don’t want to buy their birth-control so they can continue to have “baby free fun.”

        • Jeff

          Now, now. I hear you might have a shot at the Correctional Center with papers that look like pardons. No, better try deaf girls. If they hear your idiocy, it’ll be a no go.

  • arthur julia

    I wonder if politicians like Dodd and Frank urging banks to lend more and more to people who didn’t have the resources to repay oversize loans.Bush isn’t to blame for the resulting bubble that burst giving us all our troubles.Its idiots like Dodd and Frank who are primarily responsible for this disaster.when you pay out more than you take in you are headed for the cliff and thats where we are about now

    • Jeff
      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        JEFF God Forgive you for being such a Tool for the LEFT !!!

        Barney Frank Was saying the Housing market as in Great shape all the way Over the Cliff who took over the Congress in 2006 and furthered the call for Cheap loans and Installed the Trojan Horse in the Treasury who was sold as a Conservative but that was a Lie because Hank Paulson was the founder of one of the Biggest ANTI Growth Environmental Organizations in the world so the conflict of Interest to see Abundant growth in the capital markets when this growth is Extremely Opposed by Such Environmental Organizations just gives reason to the cause of Collapsing the Housing industry and what better way to do it but to use DEBT as the tool , and Obama is NOW BUILDING THE BIGGEST BUBBLE YET to POP !!!!…. Hey, Barney Frank: The Government Did Cause the Housing Crisis http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/12/hey-barney-frank-the-government-did-cause-the-housing-crisis/249903/

    • Smilee

      Arthur, it all happened before the Dodd-Frank law not since, wake up and smell the coffee.

  • Barb L

    There is a lot of rhetoric about who started this liberal cess-pool we are in. The idiot Libs blames Bush, actually the Congress of Bush’s terms would be ones to blame, both groups were controlled by the D.D.D.Democrats! However they were just continuing the plot set up by good ol’ boy Jimmy Crapper, oops, Carter, and then your sex craved Billy Clinton! So you see the Libs are as usual to blame for all this. Osama Obama is just the icing on the cake. Also I’ll take the American, Republican over the Radical Muslim Jihadist any day!!

    • Jeff

      Bush actually had a very compliant, Republican Congress for 6 of his 8 years in office. And, yes, Bush policies are what’s driving the debt whether you like it or not, B-B-B-Barb!

      http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/obama-romney-deficit-debt-chart.php

      • Barb L

        The D.D.D. Democrats was not a stutter, it’s an abbreviation of what they truly are Damn Dumber than Dirt Democrats, and The Congress was not compliant during Bush’s era!

        • Jeff

          Other than immigration reform and the privatization of Social Security, what did Bush propose that he didn’t get passed? Also, I noticed you had no comment about George W. Hoover’s causing the deficit.

  • Patriot

    The excuses are starting to fly all around us, sounds like a Romney landslide is brewing! I hear the rumbling, do you? The landslide started 2 years ago and yet these political hacks did not take the cue. We need to back our new President, this will not be the end, this is just the beginning of taking our country back. The people will send a huge message today and we need to put average, common sense folks into office and cutoff the ruling elite, now. This will take many years of dedication, the end result will be a much stronger America built on the Will of the people! I must believe that the country that put an unknown person in power with no record of accomplishment is looking for a complete outsider that will do what’s right for the people and country rather than play the political non-sense game. Stay in the fight my friends! I now know how our founders felt when 30% plus of the population supported the tyranny of the crown rather than fighting the liberty & freedom fight. This fight has always been worth the price, We the People know better than these life-time political hacks!

    • Texas Ride

      Patriot, Good Post!

      We are NOT DONE! America is here to stay, IF Americans want it badly enough!

  • johnC

    Many are just delusional to think the people have retained their control of the government when it fact it has been given to the banks and big money, To the likes of George Soros, Bill Gates, The Rockerfellers and others this destruction was caused by a Democrat president Woodrow Willson. He even lamented later after the fact that he had sold out the country to the banking cartels by the creation of the Federal Reserve. History has shown that no Fiat Currency ever remains stable and that it is used to steal the wealth of a country isideously, silently it robs the wealth of the workers and in the end makes only 2 classes of people the super rich and the slaves. This Fiat currency will collapse we will witness it happen as the Federal Reserve prints more and more worthless paper and at some point its value will be recognozed for what it is worthless. The real value and currency is Gold and Silver…but how long will you be permitted to own it before you are required to turn it in for the next worthless Fiat currency. This has alreay happened in the US once Check history for this when FDR made it illegal to own Gold. It was done to inject more worthless dollars in to the economy than actually existed thus making it appear the economic policies were working …when in fact it was draining the life blood out of the economy. The collapse will come soon I am sure of it. why else run the debt up so high because they know they will never pay it back. It is just like running your credit cards up to the max and then not paying them. The collapse will come and it won’t be pretty

  • DaveH

    Great article, Brandon. Unfortunately, it has fallen on many purposely deaf ears.
    http://asalesguy.com/2009/12/08/selling-to-the-monkeys/

  • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

    Everything Mr. Smith is true but I’m planning ahead by reading and believing John 3:16. The counterfeit FRN’s will be exposed leaving America destitute. The Mid East in going to experience more wars if not, the war. The people that have learned to hate us instead of love are cognizant of our new war policy, that is, preemptive wars. Are they planning a preemptive strike on America? With us charging on like a bull in a china shop on our road to empire I think that might be a distinct possibility. The world, particularly Russia, China and Iran that we know of, are cheering for Obama, Why? Because Romney’s let known that the Zionist have a ring in his nose. A win by Romney could create a preemptive strike on America. That’s not to say Obama’s action couldn’t trigger one as well. He wants to take America intact, like a good communist. You poke a guy to long and eventually he’ll swing back and try to make it a sucker punch.

  • Jeanette

    This is why we bought land in a country that we concluded (after much research) will likely be one of the last to succumb to communism/Marxism/U.N. Agenda 21 globalism. We are selling off assets now, preparing for the move.

    Hopefully, we will be able to get out before the American Iron Curtain comes down (the State Department’s proposed new passport application, which will be used to keep Americans here, and keep their money accessible for confiscation by the Feds.)

    To those Americans who support the takedown of this country by Muslims and/or Marxists: You will get exactly what you deserve. To the rest of America: I wish we could help every single one of you, but all we can do is wish you the best of luck.

    • Texas Ride

      So, Jeanette, you are going to “cut and run” like cowards! Stay and help your country, instead!

    • Karolyn

      Not very American of you. Will you give up yoru citizenship too?

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        Karolyn how American is this ???? http://www.silentconquest.com/

        • Jeff

          Oh please, the guy is not a political prisoner. He’s in jail for violating the terms of his parole. He’ll spend a lot less time confined than many of the completely innocent people swept up by W and held at Gitmo or rendered to other countries to be tortured.

          • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

            Who attacked the USA on September 11 , 2001 JEFF ? You talk as If GWB caused the attack with GITMO Lord Jesus Forgives you for this Misguided sense of what is good and justice Jeff I know he does .

          • Jeff

            Are you capable of holding more than one thought in your head at a time? So Muslims attacked us on 911. Does that mean anything we do in response is justified? Even W had more sense than that.

      • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

        I would say Jeanette isn’t leaving America, America left her and her family. America was an idea that people’s from many countries came to. Instead of learning what made America great, and that was it’s relation to God, they brought the same form of government the came from. There’s times to stand and fight and times to cut and run. Only a fool would stay in burning building.

      • Karolyn

        Very sad, Tony, that there are those who would restrict free speech to appease a segment of the population who take themselves too seriously. it’s all about fear.

  • http://personalliberty Pat Alexander

    America will not be destroyed! We Americans may have to fight in the trench right here on American soil again, but we Americans will keep America alive and well in the end!

  • tgeer

    Interesting projections. Hopefully none of this will happen, but we’ll have to see. After all, none of us are able to tell the future.

  • Bill Cooke

    Both the Democrats controlled by the Council on Foreign Relations and the Republicans controlled by the Bilderburgers want a New World Order. Both want to spend money they do not have. The Bushes were Skull and Bones and wanted the same thing. The masses follow what people tell them unless people know the truth. Read the Book None Dare Call it Conspiracy by Gary Allen and you will find the truth of all of this. The more recent update is Hope of the Wicked. None of those in power are who we really want. We need a Constitutionalist who follows the constitution and not the laws that have been written by rotten Specialist interests.

    • Jeff

      Isn’t that book a little out of date? It was around when I was in high school 40 years ago. No new conspiracies to explore or is it the same on-going conspiracy? Can’t anything ever happen that’s not orchestrated by the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, and the Illuminati?

      • DaveH

        We can learn from the past. Especially so, since the “national security” excuse makes it so difficult to investigate current events rigorously. Leaders don’t change. They will always gravitate to absolute power unless the citizens wake up and stop them.
        What I don’t understand is that so many Liberal Progressives are very suspicious of Big Businessmen (often rightly so), but completely naive about the nature of Leaders. Those books about the past shed great light on the nature of Leaders and their political Cronies.

        • Donald Darden

          David, you have to first recognize false assumptions and characterizations about the inherent nature of man. All of us can be tempted by greed, envy , lust, or some form of covetousness. It’s part of what we are. To , or shape a think you can bring people completely out of such feelings, or shape a society where they just don’t exist is way out of the arena of reason. Recognize the false assumptions, and then see where following such trails take you.

          Big thing about books that endure is that someone hit on something that others want to accept or believe. You start off on how many is inherently good and noble, there are people that will see themselves in a new light and want to believe it shines just for them.

      • Karolyn

        Dave – Just because someone is a liberal does not mean they are so naive that they believe politicians and trust them all.

  • http://saxonheater.wordpress.com saxonheater

    As much as I hate the man, my fundamental problem with Obama (and the Democrats) is that he has no respect for the law, except as a tool to solve problems on his own agenda. Seventeen illegally appointed “Czars,” willful failure to enforce legislation on the books, disregard for existing legislation like The Hatch Act (which made it illegal for Kathleen Sebelius to attend the DNC), abuse of power, evidenced by knowing failure to enforce the Administrative Procedures Act on his own agencies – these are only a few of his many, many transgressions.
    In general, and of late (JFK was an exception), the Democrats treat the ends as more important to the means. In general (and Bush Jr. was an exception, given things like The Patriot Act) the Republicans tend to recognize that the means ARE the end, and that the constitution defines those means – an outlook that defined this country for 200 years.
    Essentially libertarian, I agree with the latter approach. But doesn’t “Of the people, by the people, for the people” suggest something beyond punching a few chads every four years? The elephant in the room, folks, is the electorate – us! So the question that begs asking is what are we going to do about it?
    I spent a third of my personal assets on a documentary that cut the TSA down to size (Please Remove Your Shoes.) I’m sure each of you has a special talent for writing, organizing, convincing your congressman to pay attention. The point here is that we needn’t be enslaved by the presidential nomination process, and we can collectively have an effect on government. Can you imagine what would happen if even 1% of the electorate descended on the 535 elected reps. in congress with their opinions on a routine basis? (A new slogan? “An email a day keeps the despots away.”)
    Cheer up folks. Let’s stop blaming the Executive branch, congress, the Fed, the media, and go do something about it. We needn’t join Brandon’s grim survivalist group if we wake Washington up before his “vision” becomes real. And frankly, Brandon, though you write well, you’re still a little young to conquer me with the wisdom of your years, so if you don’t mind, I’d prefer to believe that there is a solution to this mess.
    I’ve been to VietNam, and I’d rather die trying to save the US as it is. Are we all to tired and jaded to even try? At least a million Americans (and I knew a few) died trying that themselves, which is partly why we’ve gone as far as we have. While the Democrats view the Tea Party as pointlessly disruptive, they HAVE a point: we’re not going to put up with the status quo. As long as we enlarge that movement, corrupt government will break before the country does.

    Fred G.

  • Barb L

    Jeff, Bush tried for years to get rid of Fanny and Freddy the so called compliant Congress stood by and let the housing market go down and didn’t care, it wasn’t just the last 2 years of Bush’s term either, he fought it for years.

  • brett

    an article i can agree with. funny how it contradicts the very status quo agenda that this site encourages. muslim/marxist/socialist/federalist/commie/liberal bla bla bla are nothing but distractions. conservative vs. liberal is an obvious ploy to distract and divide. stop playing along and demand that global monied special interest stop running our country. we are most certainly disenfranchised when billions are spent every election.

    • DaveH

      The agenda of this site, brett, is and always has been the Discussion of Liberty. You need to pay more attention.

  • Sol of Texas

    Brandon —

    You have a comprehensive list. It pretty well describes how and why our civilization will continue to descend.

    I wish yellow-dog democrats and knee-jerk republicans would stop being Tories and convert to fundamental American patriotism.

    I am sorry Mr. Franklin, (i.e., Benjamin, who was the father of our country). The response to your statement is: “We cannot keep it”.

    See …
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/keeping_america_ldcYRIsxtBxLQWRhi6un2M

  • Theresa

    Awesome article! There is no difference between the two political parties any more! They always prove to be liars!

  • http://yourfunds4life.info Joe Frisicano

    Disillusioned!
    Everyone needs to read Brandons article again and Goodwaters comments.
    Wake up Americans! Only God can fix this mess we are in, not Allah!

    • DaveH

      Unfortunately, there is no god. So we’re going to have to fix it ourselves.

      • Donald Darden

        Oh, there is a God, of that I have no doubt. But things are going to turn against man, until we all become too aware that man is unable to handle it all on his own. By then it will be too late. See, I have a guide that pretty much outlines this for me, and I pay attention.

      • Karolyn

        That works, Dave, because we are all one. So if we all worked together, it could work.

  • Tom

    I’m amused that the same GOP elite that were so anxious to throw Ron Paul and his delegates and all their supporters under the GOP Greyhound, as well as send 8 TSA agents to the Clearwater Airport to harass and threaten Ron Paul, his wife and granddaughter as they prepared to board their PRIVATE AIRPLANE back to Texas, are the ones telling us how badly they now need our votes. Pretty funny.

  • http://www.facebook.com/larry.kellogg.98 Larry Kellogg

    Bush and Kerry were dumb and dumber, and set into place as such with a predetermined script to dupe the masses, that really don’t seems to know any better. Has anyone ever heard of Independents or are we to be stuck with elephants and asses forever. The voting and political system is a joke (a very bad joke) and a hoax. Wake up AMerica!!! .

    • DaveH

      You could help change that, Larry:
      http://www.lp.org/

      • Donald Darden

        Voting was once recognized as an important responsibility. Increasingly, people see it as a way to keep what they have or get more, regardless of who pays the price. The rich are fighting to keep what they have, and succeeding for the most part, behind corporate identities, lawyers, and crafty accountants. It’s the middle class that suffers the most, and a day is coming, not far away, when there will be no middle class. You don’t see that, then study the subject of Socialism a bit, particularly whether it succeeds or not.

  • http://yourfunds4life.info Joe Frisicano

    Shouldn’t the newest comments appear at the top?

  • Ron Maguire

    Help me to understand something. First off, I’m not defending president Obama for all this debt the country is facing. His predisesors have already done this. So to blame him for all of it would be a falicy. Presidents nowadays are nothing but pawns for congress to do as they wish as they have been decades. Yeah! Absolutely! Our beloved US is heading down the tubes. I always thought since I was a child that our preamble states We the People. Well, who in the hell is that? Because foreigners are buying 7-11′s and passing them off to their families to beat having to pay taxes. Individuals within Congress are making money hand over fist from outsourcing what demeaning jobs are left that illegals and other foreigners are occupying. It’s not rocket science to figure out who really runs America into the ground. The president nowadays doesn’t really matter anymore. It’s just someone to blame. Then again what do I know. I’m just some dumb union ironworker that wishes none of this was true.

  • Rafael

    Do you know that a national central bank came right out of Karl Marx’s Communist Manifesto? Dr. Ron Paul knows it. That’s why he has spent years trying to get rid of it. He knows that there is no such thing as a central bank (Federal Reserve) and honest money at the same time. If others of the political class know it, they aren’t saying so —
    particularly not the two rubes auditioning for chief puppet to the banking interests and globalists.

    • DaveH
      • Donald Darden

        Woodrow Wilson signed the bill called the Federal Reserve Act in 1913. Then it was backed by 900 banks, meaning the banks took charge of our currency. He realized later what he had done and wished it could be undone. It can be, by act of Congress. I doubt even a Republican-led Congress will try. After all, the 100th anniversary will be here next year, and they are mostly in bed with special interest lobbiers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

    JEFF such an elitist point of view that you have ….. and what about that name calling claim you had ???

    JEFF SAYS : “Finally, the real deal. I’ve seen lots of posts here from pretenders but finally, a real honest-to-God Texas Moron. Were you the official Village Idiot while W was away or did you just kind of pretend?” Good Job being a uniting force of reason just like your Leader Obama and how well he has Governed these past 4 years HUH Jeff ???

  • TexasMom43

    I am sick to death of corrupt and stupid politicians (Pelosi comes to mind here) and sick to death of what both major parties have become. Sicker of our media – what a bunch of lunatics, “tingle up the leg” etc. We need to clean out the entire stable and start afresh.
    Beginning with our Constitution and the original ideas of our Founders.

  • Kay Cleveland

    I can only say I am amazed that so many have had their head in the sand for the past four years, or have turned a blind eye to what has been taking place in the White House the same four. Obama is a Radical Muslim/Communist indoctrinated/Islamist. He has a Communist Propagandist {from youth} Valerie Jarrett, as presidential advisor, He has entertained on numerous occasions The Radical Islamist is OUR White House. He has diminished our military to level our country to less than the Middle East Terrorist. He has armed the Syrian Islamist Terrorist with weapons our military stockpiled from the death of Q’addaffi. And it is really time that Americans started praying for God to shed his grace once more on America. Read “The Harbinger” or “What In The World Is Going On” by Dr. David Jeremiah. A real wake up call for America!

  • Howard C

    All of you who are still stuck on the Left vs. Right crap are mind-boggling. The Republicans and Demacrats are equally to blame for the sad state that our country is in. They divide and conquer and that is it. They have people like the ones on this website pointing fingers at each party while they do their dirt and serve their own interests. As long as “WE THE PEOPLE” squabble over petty disagreements and refuse cooperate due to those disagreements they have the power. If we joined together as a UNIFIED CITIZENRY and said ENOUGH!! their power is nullified. As long as we continue to be willfully ignorant they continue to control us with an ever tightening reign. Voting is not enough to fix things in this country. The only way to correct the problems we are facing in this country is to get rid of the 2 party system and remove all of these corrupt liars that hold positions in our government.

    • Jeff

      You sound like the theorist during WWI who proposed solving the U-Boat problem by draining the ocean. How do you propose accomplishing any of what you want and what would keep new parties from forming?

      • Howard C

        People like yourself are the ones I am talking about. I believe that I was quite clear in the statement that I made. Our Forefathers successfully defeated the British using only 20% of the male population at the time. You obviously would’ve been part of 80% that were either loyal to Britain or didn’t want to be involved had you lived then.

        • Jeff

          It’s the fun part of authoring your own alternative history. You get to be the hero and everybody else plays the fool. I suppose had you been born a generation or 2 earlier, you’d have been Churchill only you’d have snuck into Germany and assassinated Hitler.

      • Howard C

        Dude you are a jackass.

        • Jeff

          Thank you for letting me know that. My wife hasn’t told me that for at least a week. But I couldn’t help noticing you ignored my question.

      • Howard C

        One word….. R-E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N. I assumed that you got that from my previous post.

      • DaveH

        Jeff says — “My wife hasn’t told me that for at least a week”.
        Funny, Jeff, but now back to a serious discussion. I agree with your wife.

      • DaveH

        Howard, revolutions rarely work. More than likely you’d trade one Power-hungry psychopath for another Power-hungry psychopath. The best chance we have is to educate everybody we can.
        Read this:
        http://mises.org/daily/5363/The-Next-American-Revolution-Wont-Be-Like-the-First

  • H Dean Fuller

    Gman says:
    Only about 10% of Americans are patriots. We are no longer a Republic or Government of Laws. Take the Supreme Court. They are siding with one side or the other side of an argument. They should only side with and defend the Constitution even if their politics don’ t agree with what the Constitution states. Instead they interpret what the constitution states in ways to suit their personal politics. Example: I give you Chief Justice Roberts who could not figure a way to interpret the Constitution to justify his politics, so he just change the wording of the argument placed before him. (on the so called affordable care act). This is a brillant decision if you are a Progressive. (Progressive = Totalitarian Socialist or Communist take your choice). About 90% of our politicians have socialist political views and don’t even know it. Thats also true for at least 50% of Americans. Its also true for the Democrat and Republican partys. I don’t know if the problems can ever be fixed. I do know that our public education system will never fix it. Our education system is just another program that has its own politics, and againb the people involved don’ t even know that they are part of the problem. Our whole system has become corrupt. The 40% of people I didn’t cover are just folks who are being battered by the whole problem, they don’t have a clue.
    I did have one teacher who gave me a great truth, and over my life it has proven to be true. The amount of education a man gets has nothing to do with his intelligents. Education only measures itself. The most educated man in the world could still be the most stupid. So as long as we don’t vet politicians and find out who they really are it won’t be much longer before the end of America as I once knew it.

  • Bob Spencer

    So the sheeple have spoken. They fail to recognize the fact that the Democrats took both the House and the Senate in 2006 (the last two years of GWB.and the first two years of Obama). They had super majorities in both houses for that time frame. Mr Obama was a Senator in 2006 and voted for a lot of the finacial mess. Then Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, and Maxine Waters effectively shut down any reining in of Fannie and Freddie that GWB wanted done.The housing bubble happened because the Democrats wanted people who couldn’t afford houses to have one. This financial mess is mostly in the house of the democrats.

  • walter agard

    James andrews, the problem i am seeing with you is HATE causing you to not seeing the ROOT CAUSE of this problem we have.Vicki Bush caused it and that is true.I don’t know how you cant see that. It is logical,something that happens. Either you are a racist and you dont want to admit it, or you just hateful because if you are behaving like that then you don’t have any sense.You are running away from the truth with lies.It is very,very simple to understand.Even if it was OBAMA did this ,you cant blame any else but OBAMA. Can you understand that?

  • FreedomRules

    After all this dribble, I’ve had enough. I’m unsubscribing. Brandon is as nutty as the rest of you drones.

    • DaveH

      Try changing your name to something more honest.

    • Vicki

      Bye.

  • Joe Hammond

    How right the article is that the true rulers of this sad Empire called the United States of America are not any different regardless of the pseudo-party they claim and in true fact, impose puppets on us that take the flack while they continue to loot the treasury through unneccessary wars and outrageous government contracts while placing the money absconded with into safe house areas such as the Caymans and Luxembourg so that it is no long available for usage in the Empire. Then, as they send other’s offspring to fight, die, and be maimed in the wars for profit they have inflicted on us through the use of the media and illusions of threat, their offspring matriculate through the private university system that is the gateway into the positions of control occupied by the families who own and control the Empire. Do they fight? No longer. The losses the ruling class had during the Second World War (example: Joe Kennedy) has created in them the need to implement such wonderous ideas as the S-2 deferment during the Viet-nam debacle and the religous deferment for those who go on “missions” to spread mythology across the globe in places like the suburbs of Paris. This and the end of the draft have insulated the offspring of our rullers from the consequences of their decisions and designs that the lower and middle class cannot escape.

    The dream of the Republic formed by brave wealthy men long ago is deader than a doornail. The Republic is an Empire; 5 corporations control over 90% of media information; the wealthy choose our candidates for Empire President without a care for anyone but themselves; and we are responsible for more wars than the old Soviet Union and Communist China put together! “Beware foreign entanglements” is laughable now. The Bill of Rights is good for rolling paper. Slavery by race has been replaced by wage-slaves by class.

    This dying Empire is caught in a Black Hole that prior Empires such as the Athenian Empire and the Roman Empire found themselves in. Soon, tyrants from the wealthy will determine what we see, hear, and know much like that predicted by Aldous Huxley Jr. in “Brave New World”. A pill will make you happy. A pill will make you hard. A pill will make you sleep. A pill will keep you working longer and longer……

    How proud the Founders would be to see our addled, pill addicted, ignorant, sports worshiping, over-sexed, money religion Empire that has replaced the vision of a Republic…that we couldn’t keep………

    Revolution now. Revolution tomorrow! Revolution for survival!! Pray it be non-violent but if not then let the tyrants beware!

    • Howard C

      Well said. I agree completely.

  • ONTIME

    Apparently a reply isn’t in the stars today……

  • dbur

    I don’t believe any president can save us. A good president can slow down our demise, but to be saved a large portion of our population needs to change how they think, and there’s little optimism that will happen.

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      We no longer have a president. We have a dictator or an emperor or a tyrant occupyimg the office. The media once again proved they can control the people’s thinking. Sure I’m going to vote, but not for president. That’s giving me a choice between a hangmans noose or electric chair. Christ made a choice and he chose the liberty and morality we will experience with him in heaven. I’ll Fight for those things while I’m here but I’ll be prepared to go with Him to a world that has everything I wanted in America. John 3:16

  • Karolyn
  • Bill

    I guess you people didn’t read the article. Both DEMS and Reps are to be blamed. They work for those who seek to enslave us NOT for the people. Quit defending those who have brought this destruction of America. Bush=Clinton=Bush=Obama= Romney if elected.

  • Donald Darden

    I have been following and researching what is happening in Ammerica since I heard the first Obama speach back in 2008. The fact is, Democracy in this country is failing, and I know why and who is making it happen. I’ve also come up with seven fixes thRemember. Justat the States of a Republican Congress can make happen that might, just might, turn things around. But getting someone’s ear or getting it before their eyes is super tough. I’ve tried submitting an email to Personal Liberty Digest, and it got kicked back by abo Mail Administrator. Anybody interested enough, try me at PC_Doer@yahoo.com. That’s not my best email account, but then I might get swamped with replies.

    Remember, just 7 steps. And they can bypass the President if done by the States or a clear majority in Congress

  • norml14u

    In my opinion, and I did own businesses all of my life, Mr. Obama doesn’t know how to work or what to do when he does work. When the people voted him in, it was because he seemed so dead serious about “not resting until this or that was made right” or “he would work all of every day” to make the United States the shining light for the rest of the world that it always was. I bet his handi-cap in golf has improved and probably his 10′ jumper is better, other than that I don’t think he’s done any good things for th U.S.
    All I see is posturing, complaining and signing EO’s that put him in a position to really do some kind of damage, if he decides to. Since Obamacare was declared a tax by the supreme court, it is ILLEGAL. ANY REVENUE GENERATING LAW has to originate other than the presidency. Why doesn’t anyone press the issue. It’s the Law!!
    Having “I did not have sex with that woman” Bill( liar impeached president) as your ACE IN THE HOLE to go out and get you votes should tell us something about the system. Does N>A>F>T>A> ring a bell for any one? Boy, do we have “open borders” and free trade!
    Just vote today and vote for what’s right. Then tomorrow , let’s us the people get involved and start cleaning this mess up one person at a time!
    may God bless and Defend us and shine the light that opens our eyes, on the unrighteous,that we know where to begin

  • Donald Darden

    Sorry about the typos. My hands are cold and my cursor is moving unexpectedly. That was America and “I’ve come up with seven fixes that the4 States or a Republican Congress can make happen…”. These are seven new and slightly radical ideas that came to me after much reflection, and yet we need them or something much like them to save this Democratic Republic. It’s not going to happen on its own.

  • http://comcast the fisherman

    Yes Bush left us with something to remember,a war that was not needed for there were no wepons of mastdistruction there. But then you do not have to belive this . But look what is come soon. Now all you have to do is— bend you knees grab your ankles and kiss your a— godd by.

    • http://comcast the fisherman

      Note– Deerinwater read m last report. Bush left us in dirtywater

  • JeffH

    I want to share this email I recieved from DownsizeDC.org…one of my favorite tools for political information and contacting congress,senate and the white house.

    Should You Demote Democracy?
    By Perry Willis

    Something to consider on election day . . .

    Where once we believed in the divine right of kings, now we believe in the divine right of pluralities and majorities. We call this democracy, and it has led us to a strange place . . .

    Actions we once rejected from Kings, we now accept from politicians.

    Is that progress?

    We convince ourselves that democracy is progress. How? We tell ourselves this story –
    •America is great.
    •America is a democratic republic. Therefore . . .
    •Democracy is the key to greatness.

    Perhaps, but has democracy always lead to greatness everywhere?

    For instance, we all know the terrible story of democracy in Germany in the 1930s. Have we really learned the lessons that example has to teach?

    It’s important to notice what America had that Germany lacked. Only the American State had a Bill of Rights with strong prohibitions on State action. Congress shall make no law . . . !

    Our Bill of Rights has often been ignored, yet it’s protected us too. I can point to no election that ever turned back the rising tide of State power, but I could name court decisions defending the Bill of Rights that did.

    This suggests a partial conclusion . . .

    Limiting state power is more fundamental than democracy to both greatness and goodness.

    But does this mean that courts and a Bill of Rights are the key to limiting State power? Look deeper . . .

    The Bill of Rights has never changed, but court decisions have. Why?

    For instance . . .

    Why was state enforced racial segregation upheld and then overturned? No new majority was elected on this platform. No new court was appointed to specifically render this verdict. Instead . . .

    Public opinion changed, and then the political “leaders” followed.

    This change in opinion was caused by civil society — NOT by The State, NOT by politicians, NOT by people voting, NOT by democracy. It was caused by people like Jackie Robinson and Martin Luther King, Jr., and by new technological forces like television.

    Look closely at the history — political “leaders” like Eisenhower and Kennedy reacted to events, they did not cause them. Even LBJ’s famous civil rights legislation was largely the exclamation point to a social transformation that had already occurred.

    The central importance of social forces over political (democratic) forces can be seen even more clearly in the case of infamous “N-word.” No court or legislature ever outlawed the use of this word, yet no word in the English language is more forbidden.

    Render the verdict . . .
    •Beliefs are primary.
    •Limits on state power are crucial.
    •Democracy is a doubled edged sword that can oppress as easily as it protects.

    You should think and live accordingly . . .
    •Demote democracy from your pantheon of gods.
    •Focus on moral beliefs instead.
    •Limit the State’s power to cause harm by opposing The State’s anarchistic freedom to INITIATE violence.
    •Foster this social change by elevating persuasion over elections.

    Take a step today. Educate. Persuade. Share this essay with friends. Ask them to think about it, and to consider subscribing to the Downsizer-Dispatch. They can subscribe using this form. https://secure.downsizedc.org/newsletter/

    Perry Willis
    Co-Founder
    DownsizeDC.org, Inc.

    • Jeff

      “Public opinion changed, and then the political “leaders” followed. This change in opinion was caused by civil society — NOT by The State, NOT by politicians, NOT by people voting, NOT by democracy. It was caused by people like Jackie Robinson and Martin Luther King, Jr., and by new technological forces like television. Look closely at the history — political “leaders” like Eisenhower and Kennedy reacted to events, they did not cause them. Even LBJ’s famous civil rights legislation was largely the exclamation point to a social transformation that had already occurred. ”

      For a change, there is some truth to what you say, but you downplay the importance of leadership. Yes, parts of the country were ready for desegregation before LBJ signed the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, but parts (the South) were clearly not. How long would Blacks in the South have had to wait for their civil rights in the absence of those laws? At least another generation. I would say even longer but for the effect of television. Even today, there are renewed cries of “state’s rights” and we know what that means. All you have to do is look at Florida. The segregated water fountains are now the enormously long voting lines in largely Black areas. Is it a surprise every year that people might want to vote so maybe you need to put more voting machines (maybe more polling places) in those parts of the state?

      • JeffH

        Jeff, why does it not surprise me that you didn’t know where my post originated? You’re playing in the wrong sandbox fella.

        • Jeff

          Excuse me, I didn’t realize you were the Opinion Nazi of this blog; I thought you were just the regular kind.

      • JeffH

        Jeff, LMAO! :) :) :)
        More than you’ll ever realize!

      • 45caliber

        Jeff:

        You insist that the South has/had problems with Civil Rights. Perhaps you should check the North, particularly the NE. I’ve run into more racism in that area, in Chicago, and in Southern California than I have in the rest of the US that I have visited. The South was forced to intergrate – but the same judges ruled that the North didn’t need to do it. The NE is all about business – by any method – while I can still make million dollar deals in the South with a phone call and/or a handshake. When a Northerner is caught in some mode of cheating, he always laughs and insists that “it is only business”. Most of the rural South was already intergrated even though it gets the blame for most of the problems.

        A black friend from Pennsylvania came down here on a business trip (to Texas). She said she was amazed because everyone accepted her here. She was treated as if she was a guest, even at the hotel where she stayed. And she said she could see that most other blacks here were treated the same way. I was amazed too; I hadn’t realized that there was still that much problem up there. On my later trips up there, I could see what she meant. Perhaps you should make your own observations instead of listening to some of the liberal posts.

  • Louis Lemieux

    Libertarians don’t believe in the FED. Who is going to give those newly printed dollars that have to increase as Gross Domestic Product increases and to whom are those new dollars going to go to? Money is just a very workable and convenient substitute for everything else that is out there. You tell me and I may vote libertarian! We cannot live today in the US with the same amount of dollars we had 20, 30 years ago.

    • Vicki

      GDP is measured in $. So if there are more $ then the products can sell for more $ and the GDP number gets bigger. The value of the products has not gone up. Just the number of $ available to buy those products.

      Such is the nature of inflation.

      • Louis Lemieux

        Vicki, you fail to realize that with time doubling what’s out there you have to double the amount of dollars too to stay even. Yes, we get inflation if extra money, more than doubling the amount is printed.

      • Vicki

        You can’t make that connection. GDP is measured in dollars. If I increase the number of dollars, say double and do not create more aggregate items the GDP could easily double by the simple action of increasing the aggregate price of the items. IF GDP measured the number of items instead of their “price” it might be a useful measure.

        Supply/demand affects absolutely everything. Including whatever is used for money.

  • old hillbilly

    Predictably, the flasher comes in riding a dead deer & draging some tin cans behind them – neither one knows their one end from another. Lots of clatter & nothing of matter.

    Times are very bad & fixing to get “very badder” if the commie muslimn wins. Remember the mission required firing everyone who voted for debt ceiling increases – if not now, for sure in each future election

    • Vicki

      I did vote against all incumbents. Since I live in California you can quickly guess who I voted against.

      • Jeff

        Thank Goodness your vote is meaningless. We have enough thinking people in CA to easily absorb a few conspiracy theorists like you.

      • Vicki

        Jeff writes:
        “Thank Goodness your vote is meaningless.”

        Which explains why liberals get dead people to vote. It’s all meaningless anyway.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jayson

    Mr. Smith has it correct. Neither Obama, nor Bush, or Clinton, and all the Presidents down the line are to blame for what ails America. After all, they were only doing their jobs and obeying orders; because that’s what good-employees, hand-puppets, gophers, yes-sir-men, trollops, domesticated-whores, and the unscrupulous, who would sell their mothers if the price is right, do; they simply obey orders. Does anyone here believe, that what we call a president actually has a original thought, or the policies he implements originate from the president? If so, you are sadly deluded, whoever you are! Thank you Mr. Smith, for pointing that out…

  • http://none Chuck

    Kills me how you guys know everything except how to make things better. I agree with most of what you say and I know it is the world bankers running everything. SO TELL ME WHAT WE DO TO FIX IT

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jayson

      The answer is in your question, and the word “WE”, you so aptly used. Until “WE”, collectively, realize the reality out-lined by Mr. Smith…well, there’s no chance in hell, is there? Since the majority do not see, much less, care to look. So we do not have a “WE”, now do we? So until then, there’s nothing that can be done…except, spread the word!

      • Donald Darden

        I beg to differ on the meaning of WE. The colonists were not all of one mind set when we fought for our liberties from England, and not everybody had a say as to what went into forming our new government(s). You first have to recognize the necessity and act, and let the others do or not do as they see fit. That’s the way it works. To think that a Democracy has changed that is just misguided.

  • MasterBlaster

    Well, another gloom-n-doom piece of literary rhetoric. This Smith person is another “expert” wiper-snapper who has learned everything from books, from living with Ma and Pa and probably attending some university dominated by know-nothing academians. Granted, we are in a fix now, but what does gloom-n-doom do to help fix the problem? I’ll tell you what…absolutely nothing. All it does is add to the desperation of the not-so-well-informed. What Mr. Smith should do is offer some kind of solution, or at least alternative to his bleak and desolate scenario. Like my pappy used to say: “Sonny, don’t become a part of the problem, become part of the solution.” I have lived long enough (70 years) to know that the American people can do anything they set out to do by just putting their minds and efforts toward it. What’s wrong with our society today, in my opinion, is that we have become too self-centered, too selfish and too complacent. Our standard response to a problem is “if it doesn’t affect me personally why bother.” Well, if we allow the government to continue in the path they are heading, it is going to affect all of us “personally!” I am a war veteran, and believe you me, most Americans don’t know how good they have it. I have also lived in several foreign countries and visited many others; and, diddo, we don’t know how good we got it. So stop listening to people like Smith, stop bitching and moaning and get involved with your local community and elect those folks who believe in what you do, and have similar principles as yours. Don’t forget that those folks who run for local offices may one day aspire to head for Washington; and, who knows, maybe it will be you. I, for one, believe in the American people and for the principles America stands for…how about you? Am just sayin…

    • http://none Chuck

      AGREED your so right we need ANSWERS not gloom and doom

      • Donald Darden

        I;ve got seven, maybe 8 concrete answers. You just have to know what needs fixing, then figure out a way to do it with the system we have. Took me awhile to come to understand all the problems that I can relate to know, but I see a way out for most of them. I think with those in place, the system will start getting back on track.

        Remember Prohibition? That was a definite minority that got their way by doing something unheard of. Remember the banning of prayer in Public Schools? Another sneaky approach. Things can be made to happen, but you have to know when and how.

    • Karolyn

      Good post.

      • Donald Darden

        I concur, and feel that the educational system in America is largely ingrown. Too many people in teaching positions have no real life or job experience to bring into the classroom, and they are out of touch with what it take for students to survive on their own or make good judgement calls.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jayson

      I think Mr. Smith did, offer a solution, MB. But first you need to wake up and smell the coffee. Because sadly, you missed the point of the article, as well, for all your talk of solutions, and looking at the bright side, you, yourself, failed to offer any solutions, just a lot of criticism. Btw, do you possess any, internal dialogue?

    • Joe Hammond

      Without a doubt you propose possibilitiies that are optomistic and rely on a people that are engaged in their destiny. But when I look about at either the classes I teach at the college or the people that I talk to in the stores the constant is that “what’s in it for me?” Sacrifice is out of style here. Our leaders preach the doctrine of greed as a virtue while our religious institutions become bigger and more technologically innovative by using theatrical lighting and scenery as well as making them television studios while the poor and needy remain poor and needy. Guards at large places such as New Life in Colorado Springs remove the unwashed and unwanted so they do not offend the wealthy. Membrship in mega-churches is limited and you must donate a basic amount far beyond the ability of the poor and needy.

      Are all religious denominations like this? Absolutely not! But the ones who get the media attention, the ones that are held up as “great” are the ones who discriminate against those who do not have enough. And this becomes the focus of so many who think only through the lens of the media bosses who control the information through advertisement and news. Is there anyone on any television show from the big 5 who is not a model of thinness and facial “beauty”? Is everyone in the Empire a near model in looks and size? Look about and make your own decision.

      What would Jesus Christ do if he came back and saw what has been done in his name? What was it he did to the money changers…..?

      We must learn to sacrifice and turn away from greed. Only then can we become great again. We must kill the God of Money and look down on the super wealthy who take all and give back so little and let them know that we see that the “Emperor has no clothes!” Then proceed to embrace those things that share and help those who need it while ostracizing those who worship at the Golden Alter of Greed.

  • Dee

    Blame game won’t change where we are! Does anyone have concrete solutions?
    Obama game guarantees about 4.3% increase. Ryan’s budget is about 3.2% increase which means 1.1% DECREASE of the actual CONTINUED increase.. We are in trouble no matter who wins cause NO ONE wants to cut expenses. The graphs are clear… nonsense from both. People don’t want to cut anything.
    Definition of Democracy – Two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner!!

    • Donald Darden

      You are right about what people increasingly want. And that is the harsh reality we are faced with. Democracy began on a false premise that all men are created equal. We are neither born equal, nor do we move on through life at an equal pace. Even in their own times, Franklin and Washington stood above the rest. But I agree with those that say that all men should be equal in the eyes of the law. But then how far should that law extend?
      To terrorists and traitors? I don’t think they should be considered the equals of others that do better with their lives.

      There are answers, if you first understand the problems. I’ve been researching this matter since the days I watched Glenn Beck on the Fox News Channel and heard Obama first speak, promising to bring jobs back to America. A President can’t do that. I knew it,
      and surely he did to. He was talking to the gullerable in the audience, and of course that made them believe him and later vote for him. I knew him then for the liar that he is.

      I know many of the problems we have to overcome, and would you believe, I have narrowed it to seven separate steps to bring us back. These would have to be enacted by the individual States or a Republican-led Congress, meaning we could work around an entrenched President fighting to have it all his way. But who is going to bother to find out what those seven steps are?

    • Donald Darden

      You nare certainloy right as far as you go, but it takes more power and focus than any Democratic or Republican form of government can bring together. I have concrete ideas, but I’ve yet to get them to a party of any influence to consider. My emails all come back rejected. There are so many people that want to speak out at once that you keep hitting choke points. Right now I am swamped with almost 100 posts into my own inbox, and that is after only about three hours of registering. There needs to be structure somewhere and someone to prescreen what comes in and who it goes to.

  • 45caliber

    What do we need to do to pay off our debt and get our country back on track?

    I sat down and considered every method I could think of. I’m listing them here. I would appreciate it if others can offer other solutions.

    1. Pay off the debt. First it would take many years to accomplish – and would take half of the income the government gets as well. Second, as was said many years ago, it would require the politicians in Washington to put the country before their spending to buy votes. As my Granny said once, the chances of that are “fat” and “slim”. [Still, if we could, it would require us to reduce our government spending to only the critical items (Obamacare isn't one of them) and would encourge companies to grow.]

    2. Declare bankruptcy in the government. Well, that was done once back in the ’30′s and it didn’t do much good then either. In fact, the Federal Reserve was established when the government turned ownership of the money over to four families (three are the Rothchilds, the Vanderbilts, and the Rosevelts – and it was FDR who gave part of it to his family). Three sold their shares to the Rothchilds who now own it all. Any attempt to declare bankruptcy would be blocked by them.

    Further, you can bet that any court in the land would give those the country owes anything they demanded in return. You can bet that the federal courts would be giving away our raw materials and national parks (among other things) to China, Japan, etc. who had any of our bonds.

    3. Pay as much on our bills as possible with the government bonds of other countries that we own. Fat chance of that! Most, like Mexico, believes that any money we have “loaned” them (including China) is their’s to keep. There is no way they would be willing to cash in all the bonds we own from their countries so we could use the money to pay off our own loans. [Back when Reagon was in office, he appointed a committee to investigate paying off our debt - and they found that we owned more foreign government bonds than we had sold/loaned out. So they started talking about controlling the deficeit rather than paying off the debt. Now?]

    4. Do as Russia did. Rename the country and declare that all loans owed are no longer valid since the country that borrowed the money no longer exists. Again, your chances are fat and slim, particularly when you have the same people in power we do now. Russia again is a good example of how not to do it.

    5. Stage a civil war. That way – if the right side wins – we can get rid of all the dishonest politicians in Washington and point out that THEY were the ones who borrowed the money and THEY can pay it back – if they are still alive. But … do any of you honestly believe that at least some of those now in office wouldn’t be more than willing to lean on the button that fires the nukes if they thought there was even the slightest chance they would lose their power? I don’t. And I don’t want one landing next door in Houston.

    6. Break up the country into several smaller countries. Now that one I suspect might be possible as all those politicians in Washington would be interested in having their own place to rule. And that would truly end the country of the USA and get rid of all debts. Of course, those smaller countries would be easier to defeat by foreign countries.

    7. We can always hope for an attack by some alien race from outer space to force us to set aside our quarrels to survive. That has always seemed to make mankind do its best – provide a common enemy. Or perhaps NASA will do the impossible and come up with a cheap easy way to immigrate to other worlds so we can escape the controls on this one. But I personally don’t plan to hold my breath until it happens.

    8. Finally, we attack and take over the world. Then loans become meaningless and our politicians would have even more power. Unfortunately, I think many of them are in favor of that and plan on it. But I can’t truly see it happening. It would cost more than even they can borrow and there are far too many people who would object. Besides, the world is just too big to handle as a single entity.

    Of course we can always plan on the One Worlders taking over by elimination of 90% of the population by several different means. It doesn’t matter what you call them, there are several groups who are considering this. Of course that also means that we will have to plan on surviving both the reduction in population and their attempts to take over and rule everything afterwards.

    So … anyone else have any ideas that MIGHT work? (And forget socialism, you libs. It has never worked in the history of mankind and I certainly don’t see it happening now. Besides, it also requires a huge reduction in population to be do any good at all. And I’m really not interested in being in the part that gets reduced.)

    • Donald Darden

      Nationalizing the Federal Reserve is the way to go. Take total control and break matters down to where we can manage them. The government once again becomes the only source of the dollar. There is nothing else that will get the job done.

  • http://google David

    Though I can rational your sentiments and “last rites” for our democracy, I take exception with the conclusion. Yes, for many elections we have been bilked time and again. After the voting is over you see a trend voters have followed that engages turmoil and resentment about our elected candidates. Many vote for self interests opposed to the good of the country. Aspiring candidates portray not only what they promise, it is the element of vagueness or omission they cave too that can win elections. Otherwise, pick your dialogue that best satisfies both sides rather than outwardly states specifically the solutions of change to resolve problems. It is commonly called the “kick the can syndrome” or stalled in bipartisan gridlock.
    True leaders persevere in what is good for America. Others lack the fortitude to be the custodian of their promises. They become enshrouded in opportunities of self and the revolving door of special interest groups.
    The passion of the human spirit tells me Americans seeking achievement are not giving up. Mitt Romney is the man to start turning it around. Note! The results will not happen overnight. It will take a generation with the ultimate edict for all citizens involvement.

  • John

    Brandon I am truly sorry! The folks posting on here just don’t get it! They go right back to Republican/Democrat debate and slide into partisian arguments! This is why we are lost and will never recover and will go the way of Rome!

  • FreedomFighter

    A man died and went to heaven. As he stood in front of St. Peter at the Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him.

    He asked, “What are all those clocks?

    St. Peter answered,”those are ‘Lie-Clocks’ , everyone on earth has a Lie-Clock. Everytime you lie the hands on your clock will move”.

    “Oh” said the man, “whose clock is that?”

    “That’s Mother Teresa’s. The hands have never moved, indicating that she never told a lie.”

    “Incredible”, said the man. “And whose clock is that one?”

    St. Peter responded, “That’s Abraham Lincoln’s clock. The hands have moved twice, telling us that Abe told only two lies in his entire life.”

    “Where’s Pres. Obama’s clock?” asked the man.

    “Pres. Obama’s clock is in Jesus’ office. He’s using it as a ceiling fan”.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • DaveH

      Abe Lincoln was a Railroad Lawyer. Get real.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jayson

        LOL!

  • DaveH

    Well, I voted.
    Now I just sit back and wait for Out with the Old, and In with the Old.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jayson

      Ha, same old same old…no kidding! Well, it seems people just haven’t had enough of it, i suppose.

      • Donald Darden

        Your problem (or rather Our problem) is that too many people think they are in a position to get a whole lot more of what they want. It could be, too, until the economy falls apart.

    • deerinwater

      Well David , you voted your convictions ~ and that is all that was asked of you. That is more then what many Americans did. ~

  • enoughalready

    Hangman your right he is the spawn of the devil, all the Obama lovers have him up on a pedestal and worship him. Free – great comment you are so right but these fools will still blame anyone but Obama. Bush is no longer President,I didn’t know he was still phoning it in to Obama that must explain it. The past four year have been Obama’s added debt and failure. But you don’t want to see or hear it, you just want to lash out at anyone who disagrees about your king.

  • http://www.facebook.com/martha.weems.1 Martha Weems

    YOU ARE WRONG WRONG WRONG. Maybe it is too late to really “save” America….I
    don’t know, but what you are saying is that it doesn’t matter whether we have a lying usurper who hates everything our forefathers gave us in our Constitution, has no useful experience in even running a business, has a love affair with our enemies etc etc etc (I could go on and on)….OR we have a man of integrity who loves America, and wants to restore our Constitutional rights and freedoms…..an ethical man who will do his utmost to undo all the wrongs that have been forced on us over the last 4 years! Well, I don’t
    agree with you and it is obvious that I’m not alone here. We would rather take our chances with a true American who cares for, and loves this country. Thank you very much!

  • Motov

    People forget The Democrats had control of congress during Bush’s last 2 years in office.
    Congress writes up the budgets the President only signs it. So Oh-blah blah in essence inherited his own “pew”, (Which he voted for) with Pelosi in charge of the house.
    How can that be Bush’s fault?

    • deerinwater

      “during Bush’s last 2 years in office.
      Congress writes up the budgets the President only signs it. So Oh-blah blah in essence inherited his own “pew”, (Which he voted for) with Pelosi in charge of the house.
      How can that be Bush’s fault?”

      Because the decision to fight two unfunded wars had already been made by then ~ the 110th Congress found themselves innocent passengers to a train wreck with no brake, no steering and no reverse??????

      “Reasons for Democratic win

      Beginning just after George W. Bush’s reelection, political analysts point to a number of factors and events that led to the eventual Republican defeat in 2006. It is generally agreed that the single most important issue during the 2006 election was the war in Iraq, and more specifically President Bush’s handling of it.
      Public opinion polling conducted during the days just before the election and the weeks just after it showed that the war in Iraq was considered the most important election issue by the largest segment of the public.[27] Exit polling showed that relatively large majorities of voters both fell into the category of disapproving of the war or expressing the desire to withdraw troops in some type of capacity. Both brackets broke extremely heavily for Democrats.[28] The issue of the war seemed to play a large part in the nationalization of the election, a departure from previous midterm elections, which tended to be about local, district-centric issues.[29] The effect of this was a general nationwide advantage for Democrats, who were not seen as being as tied to the war as Republicans, led by George Bush, were.
      President Bush himself, seen as the leader and face of the Republican party, was a large factor in the 2006 election. Exit polls showed that a large block of the electorate had voted for Democrats or for third parties specifically because of personal opposition to or dislike for Bush. The size of the segment that said it had voted specifically to support Bush was not as large.[30] Opposition to Bush was based on a number of factors, these not limited to opposition to his Social Security plan, the slow response of his administration to Hurricane Katrina, his perceived inaction in the face of and association with rising gas prices, and as mentioned above, his continued commitment to the war.[31]
      Congressional approval, which had been slightly negative since before the 2004 election, began a steady drop beginning in March 2005. Congress’s unprecedented and unpopular involvement in the Terri Schiavo controversy is often pointed to as the catalyst for this drop. Congressional scandals, such as the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal, the sentencing of Duke Cunningham to over eight years in prison, the indictment of then House majority leader Tom DeLay, the corruption of William J. Jefferson and Bob Ney, the misconduct of Cynthia McKinney, and the Mark Foley scandal all continued to pull down congressional popularity. In the months leading up to the election, congressional approval ratings flirted with all-time historical lows. Because congress was controlled by Republicans, this high disapproval affected Republicans much more negatively than it did Democrats.
      Democrats were successful in portraying the congress as a lazy, greedy, egotistical and inefficient “Do-Nothing Congress.”, which they contrasted with their “New Direction for America” campaign. Indeed, the congress had been in session much less than previous ones had[32] (including those under Republican control), and numerous public opinion polls showed that large majorities believed that the congress had accomplished less than normal. This too, took a toll on Republicans (as the leaders of the government).
      The listed scandals were all dwarfed by the highly publicised Mark Foley scandal, which broke in late September and rapidly metastasized to include the House Republican leadership. Florida Representative Mark Foley, who ironically headed the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children, was found to have been making sexually lewd and highly inappropriate contacts online with male congressional pages, and it was soon found that members of the Republican leadership knew in some capacity of Foley’s advances, yet took little action. The scandal allowed Democrats to adopt corruption as a campaign issue, and exit polls on election day showed that corruption remained an important issue, one that Democrats held an advantage on.[33] In addition, many (at the time and after the fact) cited the scandal as an event that sealed the fate of the Republican congress.[34][35] After the election, top Republican strategist Karl Rove specifically named the Foley scandal as the cause of the Republicans’ loss of congress.[36]
      The result was that on election day, many congressional seats had been touched by Republican scandals and were easier to pick up for Democrats than under normal conditions. These include but are not limited to the Montana Senate, Virginia Senate, CA-11, PA-07, PA-10, TX-22, OH-18, FL-16 and NY-20 races.

  • Eli. TeK.

    tell me why I shouldn’t vote for Mitt Romney
    and instead I should vote for the child killing president we have now

    • deerinwater

      I think that would be a waste of time, ~ I haven’t got it.

  • JON

    OBAMA WON!!!!!!!
    ALL THE HATERS ARE LOSERS!!!!!
    OBAMA WON!!!!!!!
    ALL THE HATERS ARE LOSERS!!!!!
    OBAMA WON!!!!!!!
    ALL THE HATERS ARE LOSERS!!!!!
    OBAMA WON!!!!!!!
    ALL THE HATERS ARE LOSERS!!!!!
    OBAMA WON!!!!!!!
    ALL THE HATERS ARE LOSERS!!!!!
    OBAMA WON!!!!!!!
    ALL THE HATERS ARE LOSERS!!!!!
    OBAMA WON!!!!!!!
    ALL THE HATERS ARE LOSERS!!!!!
    OBAMA WON!!!!!!!
    ALL THE HATERS ARE LOSERS!!!!!

    • Iamdone

      1. Grow up
      2. When everything goes to hell in a hand basket you will one of the first to yell and scream

  • Irene

    Mr. Smith: It certainly sounds as if you’ve given up on the U.S. — perhaps you should leave, take your like-minded comrades (if there are any) and start your own colony on the moon. Learn to work with others — I’m afraid your nihilistic outlook will not win you supporters.

  • Jerry

    There are those that made a choice today that will curse this day. The same people thru their ignorance will never understand what their voice has done to destroy the AMERICAN way and the freedoms we before today could enjoy.

    Gods plan for us may well be simular to that experienced by the Isrealites after the exodus from Egypt

    Just a point to ponder. The OBAMA CARE or ” The afordable care act ” has little to do with providing any type of quality health care but rather a massive control of the masses. I view it as the first step in the total replacement of the CONSTITUTION of the UNITED STATES.

    I feel sorry for my fellow Democrats, that were devided by party v/s ethics Politics is the only profession that can win and be rewarded by lies and deceit.

    ANSWER: PRAY, for only GOD can create the solution.

    • Marty S.

      I agree with you Jerry and now that O has the upper hand and is re-elected he will be un-leashed to finish his radical agenda including establishing multiple terms as President/ Puppet – in – Charge. FEMA camps are no longer just for hurricane vics but “temporary” housing for those who disagree with his policies. Keep spiritually fit and pray for intervention by God himself in this unusually intense and interesting time of tribulation. If Romney had won we would likely be dealing with riots at the moment at least on the Left coasts.

  • Newspooner

    A communist by any other name is still a communist.

    • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

      its amazing that 70 years ago we fought a World War to defeat Communism and Marxism only to return to it as Policy 70 years later …… because of this , , Here is the kind of People who elected Obama last time and this time .
      Life at the End of Empire
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpSUkjuABXM&feature=related

      • JON

        What a load of crap!

        • BR549

          JON commented on Election 2012: How The Winner Will Destroy America (in response to Tony Newbill).

          “What a load of crap!”

          Well, after reading your in depth review, above, and having reviewed YOUR intellectual contribution, below,
          “OBAMA WON!!!!!!! ALL THE HATERS ARE LOSERS!!!!! OBAMA WON!!!!!!! ALL THE HATERS ARE LOSERS!!!!! OBAMA WON!!!!!!! ALL THE HATERS ARE LOSERS!!!!!, I would have to ask if Tony’s contribution might have been beyond your attention span?

      • BR549

        Back during the McCarty years, when the focus was on ferreting out communism, McCarty was right on target. But it wasn’t so much a problem within the general population as it was the takeover by the same set of forces we are seeing today within the legislature and the executive office. Eisenhower managed to spill the beans a little more, but the PTB weren’t going to assassinate an aging and popular war hero at the end of his term in office.

        Anyway, McCarthy was trying to tell everyone what was taking place, but it was taking place within his own ranks, and when he got too close to the truth they did what they did with Goldwater (who later on also saw this coming) and they made him out to be some kind of political whacko. And of course, the masses just slurp down the pablum.

  • black as coal

    prepare to be enslaved , this idiot (well then again, its the american people that buy into his bull[expletive deleted]). will destroy america as we see it. how can americans be so shallow.

  • J

    An increase in “Food Stamps” during any presidential term only shows how much of a failure the leader was in his term. Real job growth does not increase food stamp particiption!

  • Texas Ride

    We lost America tonight.. Can anyone believe that half the country voted to keep dictator omaumau.

    Watching the crowd cheering at his acceptance speech is more than nauseating as he mesmerizes the crowd in hitler-like fashion.These people don’t understand what he is saying or they wouldn’t be cheering.

    He has been given the opportunity to unleash his worst on this country…and his worst is yet to come. Prepare.

    • JON

      I guess you better go hide in your bomb shelter and unplug from the internet so they don’t find you. Evidently, your life sucks so bad that what you have to say is only a reflection on you, and not on The President of the United States. Where do people like you learn all your fear-based-the-sky-is-falling crap anyway?

      • Texas Ride

        Crawl back in your hole and be sure to take a big dose of that koolaide with you. You are going to need it. Your fantasy is about to crumble..

  • JON

    The other half of the population spoke today and reelected The President.. You’re just upset because you didn’t get what you thought you were entitled to. And just because you think America is going to hell in a hand basket because of Obama doesn’t make it so! Grow the hell up!

    • Texas Ride

      Omaumau would have been elected if not one person voted! Get real and educate yourself about what is happening in the world.

      • Texas Ride

        I need to re-phrase that. Omaumau has never been “elected.” He was “selected” in 2008 by the real rulers of this country and they put him in the presidency again last night. If not one vote was cast, he would still have been put back into the oval office.

        But, just a side note, 47% of the supposed majority vote shouldn’t have been allowed the privilege.
        Anyone that lives off the labor of others should not be allowed to participate in any election. No one that lives off other people’s money should be able to vote themselves benefits. Nor should they be able to vote for a politician that will redistribute the wealth of others to them.
        It is unconstitutional for the government to take from one group and give to another.

        The providers, the ones that pay the bills, might just get tired of your game and take their skills and do something else. That would leave the “takers and whiners” to fend for themselves. It would leave them to depend on their socialist government to provide…instead of the working Americans. I would put money on who survives. Without the “providers” your ideology FAILS! It fails when left to support itself! And good riddance. You marxists shouldn’t be so arrogant. Yours is a fragile and dependant ideology that is always doomed.

        • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

          “He was “selected” in 2008 by the real rulers of this country and they put him in the presidency again last night.”

          Exactly. He was selected by WE THE PEOPLE who selected him in 2008. If you think anything differently, get over yourself.

          • BR549

            Texas Ride’s stated: “He was “selected” in 2008 by the real rulers of this country and they put him in the presidency again last night.”

            Then, tlgeer responded with: “Exactly. He was selected by WE THE PEOPLE who selected him in 2008. If you think anything differently, get over yourself.”

            Sorry there, TL, TexasRide nailed the situation with perfection. The problem is that people who don’t yet understand that difference are always insisting that we’re wearing tin-foil hats or looking for aliens. That way, they can continue to convince themselves that there isn’t anything worth firing up those last two warm brain cells.

  • Tyron

    Firstly you can find comfort in knowing that your country isn’t the only one in debt and run by a bunch of corrupt crocodiles stuck in a tree leaving everyone to wonder how they got there in the first place.Countries around the world including mine south africa were once powerhouses in the financial and military sectors,with military operations running through sub saharan africa,exporting technologies to usa,turks,israelis and so on.Now multi national companies of ours such as Denel (equivalent of your lockheed martin) have crashed over the years,our gold standard having been abandoned,our gold and platinum mines no longer the biggest in the world,Diamond mines closing doors with labour union issues,our current president never serving his jail term for a rape conviction,stealing R600m($75m) to build himself a luxury private residence,the need to purchase his own (air force one),in a nutshell the current “new” government has blown every penny the “old” had made which was a substantial sum.The point being is our country,yours and many others are in absolute turmoil and nothing ever seems to change,people talk of a stand and a revolution but rallying an entire nation against its government is near impossible.

    God help us all.

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      “our current president never serving his jail term for a rape conviction”

      What conviction is that? Where, and when, did the conviction happen?

    • BR549

      Tyron stated: “Firstly you can find comfort in knowing that your country isn’t the only one in debt and run by a bunch of corrupt crocodiles ………. Countries around the world including mine south africa were once powerhouses in the financial and military sectors,with military operations running through sub saharan africa,exporting technologies to usa, turks, israelis and so on. ……………… The point being is our country, yours and many others are in absolute turmoil and nothing ever seems to change,people talk of a stand and a revolution but rallying an entire nation against its government is near impossible. God help us all.”

      Indeed, one has to ask oneself HOW all of these large and micro economies have all of a sudden hit the skids. Did the supply of oil dry up? Has a series of tsunamis totally devastated every shipping port across the globe? NO.

      What has happened is that the international bankers have spent a couple hundred years convincing us why we need them so much and when the whim strikes them, or if they think the peasants are getting too unruly, they contract the money supply. Of course the average meathead voter would say to himself, “This is AMERICA, that will never happen here, Hoorah”, or “If that happens, I’ll just barter in the underground market; screw those people in DC.”

      Well, in the case of the latter, legislation has been introduced all over the globe to curtail self-sufficiency and force populations into dependency. Of course, the Obamanoid libtards are still lining up to be [expletive deleted], but when it happens, they’ll take it with a smile and ask for more.

      I can’t say much more for those equally blind as a bat Romney supporters. They must like the abuse as well. The PTB are hoping that enough people will stay in their state of stupor long enough so that they can position their chess pieces in time so that no one or no one group or country will have a chance to resist Agenda21.

      For those diehard holdouts who are still wiping up the spilled beer from the victory party last night, they might want to look at Agenda21′s “Bio-Diversity Map”. It shows, in light blue, the areas that Americans will be forcibly be relocated to after the takeover, with about 90% of the US population straddling both sides of the Appalachias from the southern border of New York down to the Gulf of Mexico. I’ve actually seen the UN manual and the map is in there. The rest of the US will have severely restricted populations allowed to live in those other areas. THIS is what they have according THEIR master plan.

      So, again, I would invite those individuals who still believe that they WON last night to ask themselves what the heck is really going on behind the curtains. All these countries and economies can’t be suffering from the same levels of malfeasance all at once. If it were solely about loans, why is it that NO one country is making out like a bandit here (China doesn’t count, wrt this argument)? The reason is that all the money is being sucked up by the greedy bankers and their political stooges.

      • Jeff

        The problem with your analysis is you’re too ready to blame sinister forces engaged in conspiracies. You approach the problem from a basically leftist, even Marxist, direction, but you propose no solutions other than eliminating all bankers. In other words, drop the bomb and start over. I don’t think that’s a sensible position. Read something by Greg Palast. You won’t agree with him but you may like his analysis. I’ve found the same thing with conservative talkers. Sometimes they will analyze a problem from a left-wing perspective, then offer a solution that bears no relation to that analysis.

        • BR549

          Jeff stated: (in response to BR549)
          “The problem with your analysis is you’re too ready to blame sinister forces engaged in conspiracies. You approach the problem from a basically leftist, even Marxist, direction, but you propose no solutions other than eliminating all bankers. In other words, drop the bomb and start over. I don’t think that’s a sensible position. Read something by Greg Palast. You won’t agree with him but you may like his analysis. I’ve found the same thing with conservative talkers.”

          Thank you for that “professional” analysis, since nearly everyone has me pegged as being to far to the right. Nice try, though.

          I actually shed those left/right monikers decades ago; one, because they no longer fit my profile, and two, because too many people couldn’t discuss the weather without resorting to a left/right paradigm. What the Democrats represent now is not what the party represented 200 years ago, and the Republicans actually admirably represented the working farmers and workers. What the Republicans represent today is a relic of the Federalists.

          Right? Left? In? Out? Up? Down? No, I consider myself SIDEWAYS: it’s more objective and realistic.

          As for those “sinister forces”, you’d be wise to look into the material I have been posting here. There are quite a few others here who very much understand exactly what I’ve been referring to. Or stay in the dark; certainly, it’s your choice.

          • Ana

            Shyte, even JFK wouldn’t recognize the Democratic Party today because it was infiltrated by radicals and communists in the late 60s along with the CPUSA’s infiltration into the media, universities, public school systems, unions, etc. What many don’t know is that at one time the CPUSA and the Democratic Party were mortal enemies. Contrary to the fallacy that modern day libs like George Cloony like to advance in his movie Good Night and Good Luck, the House UnAmerican Activities Commitee was actually started and run by Democrats.

            For a great book on the subject read The Communist, about Obama’s mentor Frank Marshall Davis, card carrying member of the CPUSA. In his own words he tells how he started running fellow CPUSA party members in local Democratic elections throughout the country and even ran and won office himself in Hawaii. He said it was the only way he could break the back of the Democratic Party. So if you’re wondering why so many modern day Democrats don’t resemble or have the same philosophy as Democrats of the past it’s because they’re two different parties. What we refer to as Blue Dog Democrats today were actually more like Democrats of yesterday.

          • BR549

            Ana, wrote: ” For a great book on the subject read The Communist, about Obama’s mentor Frank Marshall Davis, card carrying member of the CPUSA.”

            Mentor? Don’t you mean ….. FATHER?
            If you slim down Frank Marshall Davis and add in Ann Dunham’s chin, you’ve got a dead wringer for Obama; all the other features and lightly complected. One curious thing to note has been the comparative width of Obama’s nose as a teenager compared to now.

            Other interesting features that Obama shares with Frank Marshall Davis and NOT with Barack Sr., from a more medical perspective, are the angularity and narrow width of the “philtrum” (between the underside of the nose and the upper border of the vermillion of the upper lip), and that area known as the tuberculum labii superioris (or procheilon), which is the fuller slightly puffy protrusion at the center of the upper lip.

            When compared with Barack Sr., who has a predominantly wide philtrum and not even a hint of a procheilon, one can start asking a lot of questions. Bear in mind that Ann Dunham ALSO has these same upper lip features, the latter of which has attained medical notoriety in that women with those pronounced tubercles tend to also have more [comment has been edited] ……. but that’s another topic. But Barack Sr. being the daddy? Not hardly.

            My two cents.

          • Ana

            I agree with you especially since Frank Marshall Davis said in his memoirs that he and his wife broke in (sexually) a young girl named Ann. Unfortunately, unless someone takes a dna test of BO and compares it to FM Davis’s son, we’ll never know. Wonder why Trump hasn’t thought of that? LOL!

          • Jeff

            And if you found out your “real” father was the milkman, how would it change who you are?

          • Ana

            It doesn’t. And we can’t say that he over all influence Obama’s since Obama has been surrounded by that ideology since his birth.

          • BR549

            Jeff wrote: “And if you found out your “real” father was the milkman, how would it change who you are?”

            Exactly! But considering what appears to be blatant lying to the public to avoid any political controversy or discussion of links to communism, what other skeletons are in his closet? I don’t think you really want to hear what other topics there are in this regard, but that’s my response.

  • Ray D.

    All presidents are delivery boys,so to speak.Or another term for them,puppets.They can only do so much because they are contained by the congress and senate.No matter what party you are associated with,they can never see eye to eye and there will always be squabbling among them.They are suppose to be working for the people of this country,when in fact they are actually working for their own agenda and what ever they think would satisfy their own needs.
    I am a 68 year old man and i have voted for both parties.Some lived up to my satisfaction and some hadnt.But i have to say this.When they start stomping on the constitution and start trying to change them.That is when i get furious and very worried.I am not a war monger or a gun nut.But i do believe in the second amendment and the right to protect one self.Because the police cant be every where.Lets not forget what happened in Germany back during Hitlers reign of terror.He took all the guns away from the population so as they couldnt defend them selves against the government And we all saw what happened when all guns were confiscated.I have one little pistol and that is kept in my house for my own protection.Most people dont think any thing, such as an attack on themselves or a loved one can ever happen.But lets not kid yourself.Every one is vulnerable.And this country is full of people who want to harm you and to steal every thing you have worked hard for.I for one will not let this happen because i have this right to protect myself.And i will.So the point to this message is,dont mess with my god giving rights to life.I am not here because i chose to be.But while i am here on earth i want to live it until i choose to leave it in harmony.

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      “And we all saw what happened when all guns were confiscated”

      Since the US Supreme Court held that the 2nd Amendment applies to individuals, in the summer of 2008, there have not been any confiscation of guns. So, where are you getting the idea that this will happen?

  • Baz Metse

    So much damn drivel it hurts, you lot are unbelievable. The god botherers here pathetic all, when did god give any of you the right to say what it will or will not do. You quote from a book written by men and espousing what they want, it’s simple really. Who’s going to write a book and not claim they’re the chosen, please. There’s no children of god if all are not, you know compassionate god etc. More than 90% of posts choose to miss the point of the article and you all argue while we’re placed on a fast train to a cliff and all you people can do is argue what seat you want. No wonder where in the mess where in, get in your cars go off to work Baa like the sheeple you are and live in your self isolated cocoon. Oh! and don’t forget to turn on your TV’s so you can be reminded what to think. Thanks for the article it’s good but if this is the forum that comes of it BYE,

  • Ana

    Now I know how Jews and decent Germans felt when Hitler was appointed Chancellor of Germany. I’d rather there be gridlock and nothing done than any of the plans Obama has for this country. I’m sure Iran and Russia are ecstatic right now. BTW- Just wondering how flexible Obama is going to be with the Russians? Guess that means the nuclear balance of power disappears in their favor. What’s going to happen with Bengazigate? Or Obamacare, which will increased insurance premiums and cost Americans jobs because 1 full time employee above 49 full time employees will cost an employer thousands in penalties, so what employer is going to hire full time workers? Is the Catholic Church going to be forced to be a party to murder in order to comply with the law? What about the issue of Obamacare being in violation of Equal Treatment under the law (5th and 14th Amendment) with all the exemptions they gave to Unions and their buddies? Why isn’t someone taking them to court over that illegal aspect of the law? Or the fact that since the law was deemed a tax by Justice Roberts it is unconstitutional under Article 1 Section 7 Clause 1 which dictates taxes originate in the House? What about the small arms treaty that’s pending in the UN that the Obama administration plans to sign on to which will violate our 2nd. Amendment rights and potentially allow the UN to send in foreign troops to disarm our people? Or the other UN bill that’s pending which will hand the keys of the internet over to the UN where they’ll have the power to tax individuals usage fees? Of course, the individuals are us fat greedy Americans. Not to mention that that one act will eliminate our right to free speech as our speech will be censored by that bastion of liberty. And the list goes on and on. The saddest part of this whole scene is that the majority of the idiots who voted for Obama probably don’t even know any of the dangerous issues I mentioned much less have the ability to understand the full implications, that is, if they even care. I have no doubt that after Obama is finished this country will resemble Kenya in 4 years if Iran doesn’t finish us off first with a nuclear bomb or an EMP attack. But, we shouldn’t worry about that, should we? After all, Obama told us that Iran is just a little country and no danger to us. Sure and pigs fly.

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      “Now I know how Jews and decent Germans felt when Hitler was appointed Chancellor of Germany.”

      No, you don’t. Your are just being hysterical and not dealing with reality.

      “Or Obamacare, which will increased insurance premiums and cost Americans jobs because 1 full time employee above 49 full time employees will cost an employer thousands in penalties, so what employer is going to hire full time workers?”

      This proves that you do not know what is in the law. Try looking it up, the official one not the synopsis that you have been reading.

      “Is the Catholic Church going to be forced to be a party to murder in order to comply with the law?

      1. Since when is birth control equal to abortion? It’s not even close. 2. Nobody has the right, including employers, to come between a Doctor and their patient. It has nothing to do with religion.

      “What about the issue of Obamacare being in violation of Equal Treatment under the law (5th and 14th Amendment) with all the exemptions they gave to Unions and their buddies?

      Those exemptions were to give the states time to come up with a comparable health care program. Those exemptions expire at the beginning of 2014.

      “Why isn’t someone taking them to court over that illegal aspect of the law?”

      Because it’s not illegal.

      “Or the fact that since the law was deemed a tax by Justice Roberts it is unconstitutional under Article 1 Section 7 Clause 1 which dictates taxes originate in the House?”

      Because it was passed, it is legal. Just as the US Supreme Court said that it was.

      “What about the small arms treaty that’s pending in the UN that the Obama administration plans to sign on to which will violate our 2nd. Amendment rights and potentially allow the UN to send in foreign troops to disarm our people?”

      No, it won’t. Try reading the actual Agenda 21. Not the hype that you have, quite obviously, been listening to.

      “Or the other UN bill that’s pending which will hand the keys of the internet over to the UN where they’ll have the power to tax individuals usage fees?”

      See the above answer.

      Of course, the individuals are us fat greedy Americans. Not to mention that that one act will eliminate our right to free speech as our speech will be censored by that bastion of liberty. And the list goes on and on.”

      Except that your allegations are not true.

      “The saddest part of this whole scene is that the majority of the idiots who voted for Obama probably don’t even know any of the dangerous issues I mentioned much less have the ability to understand the full implications, that is, if they even care.”

      Do you mean that we actually read the bills and agenda’s, and that we know how our government actually works? As opposed to you? We do, you know. And if we didn’t care we wouldn’t have bothered to read the actual bills and agendas.

      “I have no doubt that after Obama is finished this country will resemble Kenya in 4 years”

      Why would you even think this?!?! Obama is a US Citizen, and he has never lived in Kenya. Provide facts, please.

      “if Iran doesn’t finish us off first with a nuclear bomb or an EMP attack. But, we shouldn’t worry about that, should we?”

      Israel is more afraid of Iran than we are, and they should be. They have stated that they believe that Israel has no right to exist. They are just annoyed at us. BTW, nobody sane will use a nuclear weapon.

      “After all, Obama told us that Iran is just a little country and no danger to us. Sure and pigs fly.”

      When, exactly, did Obama say this or hint this? Please, be specific.

      • Ana

        I’m not being hysterical. Obama is a grave danger to this country. I happen to be a Catholic who believes, as my church does, that life begins at conception. Forcing the Catholic Church to pay for their employees Day After abortion pill is a violation of our 1st Amendment right. Though the deceptive Obama administration tried to make this about a women’s right to choose, with its phony war against women, that was never the issue. The issue was our 1st Amendment right to practice our religion without government interference. If you’re too ignorant of our Constitution to understand that then I can’t help you. Don’t be surprised when the Supreme Court upholds the First Amendment and sides with the church.
        Employers with more than 50 full-time employees must provide health insurance or pay fines. This is already impacting employees who are getting their hours cut down to part-time as a result. Obamacare drives more restaurants to cut worker hours to part-time. http://washingtonexaminer.com/obamacare-drives-more-restaurants-to-cut-worker-hours-to-part-time/article/2510582
        As for exemptions from the mandate there is nothing about a time limit in the section below. It was included to appease the unions to get their support for the bill. It clearly violates the 5th and 14th Amendments.
        Sec. 164, Pg. 65 is an exemption for union employees and their families & community organizations (ACORN).
        In addition to that outrage there are also these privacy issues –
        Sec. 163, Pg. 58-59 beginning at line 5 – Government will have real-time access to individual’s finances & a National ID health care card will be issued!
        Sec. 163, Pg. 59, Lines 21-24 – Government will have direct access to your bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.
        Who the hell in their right mind is going to maintain a bank account? What about the right to privacy you libs always screech about?

        Obamacare has no language in it that it was a tax, nor was the bill written as a tax. The law originated out of the Senate because the Dems were selling it as a purchase, not a tax. Since the Supreme Court has ruled that the law is indeed a tax, it would have had to be initiated as a bill in the House. That never happened. Congressman Charlie Rangel introduced H.R. 3590, titled the “Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009″ to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 modifying the first-time homebuyers’ credit for members of the Armed Forces and certain other Federal employees. That bill was unanimously passed in the House. It was then sent on to the Senate where Harry Reid gutted H.R. 3590, deleted all the contents after the first sentence, and replaced it with what became the “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act” of November 19, 2009. Harry Reid did a criminal act when he tampered with the original bill and passed it off as a bill originating from the House, which it clearly was not, and was a clear violation of the Origination Clause. Roberts, or any other judge, does not have the constitutional authority to create or rewrite law. The court only has the authority to judge whether the commerce clause (which was what Obama was selling and why everyone went to court to begin with) was constitutional or not.

        Your ignorance and naivity of Islamist’s mentality is breathtaking. Here is a clip, but there are literally dozens more, of Obama the idiot saying that Iran is a tiny country and no threat to us. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew5qP2oPdtQ
        He further states that the Soviet Union was a greater threat simply because it was big. What a friggin moron! As a matter of fact Iran is an even greater threat than the USSR ever was because, according to leading expert on the ME Bernard Lewis, (a frequent commentator in the Atlantic and NYT, along with other left wing rags), mutually assured annihilation is not a deterrent to Islamists but an inducement. If you haven’t figured out that on 9/11 there were people who hated us so much they were willing to kill themselves just to kill us, then you know nothing about the mentality of Islamist and are in no position to critique me or anyone else who knows the facts. BTW – To the Iranians Israel is referred to as the Little Satan. Guess who they designate the Great Satan? Wake up, we are targets too. When they lob off missiles on Israel they’ll be lobbing off missiles in our direction too even though they know that it will mean their certain destruction because death is better than life to these fanatics.

        • Jeff

          So, if the Catholic Church buys an apartment building and decides some of the City’s safety or labor regulations violate its religious liberty, it can ignore them?. What if a Church objects to minimum wage laws? Is it bound to pay its employees the minimum wage anyway? We’re not talking about the Church operating as a Church but as an employer in commerce like everybody else. Nobody is silencing the Priest in any way.

      • BR549

        Thank God Alabama has taken the lead to nullify ObamaCare. Other states are following in various degrees and ferocity, and it is their right to do so. Nullification is the last resort before taking up arms against a government running out of control, but some people have become so used to believing that the federal government is our savior ….. [loud buzzer sound inserted here] WRONG.

        The states collectively, and obviously the people within them, give the federal government whatever “LIMITED” powers it has to operate. It is the banking industry which has chosen to turn that around for its own benefit and it has done so, so effectively, that some people have become so willing to give up their common and natural law rights to save it.

        LIncoln has been written in the history books as having freed the slaves, but first and foremost, he, like Bush the Idiot’s suspension of Posse Comitatus, used the federal army to squash any southern hostility to the North’s blatant disregard for the Constitutional process. The South had tried repeatedly to work within the system, choosing eventually to invoke nullification and the Feds, under Lincoln, chose to NOT respect those states’ sovereignty. It was the same hegemonic bull[expletive deleted] we are seeing today with Iraq and Afghanistan, only then, Lincoln turned it against his own American citizenry ……. simply because he had no other way to answer to the banks and the control by the Rothschild family.

        • Smilee

          BR549

          Thank God Alabama has taken the lead to nullify ObamaCare. Other states are following in various degrees and ferocity, and it is their right to do so.

          {RESPONSE: IT IS ;LIKE BANGING YOUR HEAD AGAINST A BRICK WALL TO EASE YOUR PAIN, THEY WILL SURELY FAIL}

          Nullification is the last resort before taking up arms against a government running out of control, but some people have become so used to believing that the federal government is our savior ….. [loud buzzer sound inserted here] WRONG. The states collectively, and obviously the people within them, give the federal government whatever “LIMITED” powers it has to operate.

          {RESPONSE: WRONG, THE US CONSTITUTION DOES AND THE STATES CANNOT OVERRIDE IT}

          It is the banking industry which has chosen to turn that around for its own benefit and it has done so, so effectively, that some people have become so willing to give up their common and natural law rights to save it. LIncoln has been written in the history books as having freed the slaves, but first and foremost, he, like Bush the Idiot’s suspension of Posse Comitatus, used the federal army to squash any southern hostility to the North’s blatant disregard for the Constitutional process. The South had tried repeatedly to work within the system, choosing eventually to invoke nullification and the Feds, under Lincoln, chose to NOT respect those states’ sovereignty. It was the same hegemonic bull[expletive deleted] we are seeing today with Iraq and Afghanistan, only then, Lincoln turned it against his own American citizenry ……. simply because he had no other way to answer to the banks and the control by the Rothschild family.

          {RESPONSE: THE CIVIL WAR WAS OVER 147 YEARS AGO, GET OVER IT. IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SO MANY WHOM ARE SO OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE REAL WORLD TODAY AND YOU CLEARLY ARE ONE OF THEM}
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          • Jeff

            QUERY: Could Alabama similarly ignore or nullify the Civil Rights Act? The Voting Rights Act? Federal Minimum Wage? How about the 14th Amendment? 13th?

          • BR549

            Smilee wrote: “QUERY: Could Alabama similarly ignore or nullify the Civil Rights Act? The Voting Rights Act? Federal Minimum Wage? How about the 14th Amendment? 13th?”

            Well, because the North was so much more bound up with European banking involvement that Thomas Jefferson had warned us so much about, and it was giving the South no breathing space to evolve out of its slavery usage, the South had little recourse. It has been theorized by many, and I agree, that the slavery climate was changing globally and the South was already on its way to evolving away from it. So, to answer your question about the Civil Rights Act, it’s a moot point, because even though the wording of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence gave everyone supposedly “equal” status, in fact, states were having to work up to that ideal. The South was headed that way anyway, albeit slower than the North.

            Voting rights? No
            Minimum Wage? You betcha
            14th Amendment: No, but for reasons far too lengthy to engage in, here.
            13th Amendment: We covered that

            The 9th and 10th Amendments weren’t put there as some oversight. They were included to intentionally emphasize that the federal government got ALL of it authority from the several states; “several” meaning that the states were continued to be recognized as the seats of their own authority, except for that SMALL part they agreed to relinquish under the 9th. The document’s somewhat Boolean approach to establishing what the newly established federal government could and could NOT do clearly left the power to the states; NOT to the federal government, but business and banking interpretations, as vestiges from the sour-grapes British Crown, were quick to corrupt our system. Unfortunately, over the last 200 years, little has changed. What has changed is that the PTB, through the 14th, have attempted to deny the citizens the very individual sovereignty they once enjoyed during colonial times; a necessary step in reducing our country’s citizenry to be put under Rothschild (et al) servitude.

            But back to ObamaCare; ObamaCare is controlled health care with the insurance companies (they wrote the bill) making out like bandits. I have no interest to engage in that farce of a system. If the government wishes to PROVIDE health care for everyone, that is admirable, but if I, like the majority of people, wish to make it an individual choice, the feds have absolutely ZERO authority to impose such a law; and I do mean ZERO.

          • Smilee

            I did not write any of what you say I did someone else did

          • Jeff

            You can be a heroic mountain man like Clint Eastwood . . . . .until you have a disease that requires treatment. I know, you’ll cure it by eating bark. We’re not all so ingenious as you believe yourself to be. Most of us got over the feeling of invincibility in our 20s.

          • BR549

            Jeff wrote: “You can be a heroic mountain man like Clint Eastwood . . . . .until you have a disease that requires treatment.”

            Still missing the point, I see. As one woman, who had come to see me after six years worth of seeing these self-aggrandizing “experts” and at least as many prescriptions, it took a mere two weeks on ONE supplement and a discussion about her diet to TOTALLY clear up her issue.

            Then, I’m remembering the referral I took about one gentleman whose doctors had suspected him as having Parkinson’s, but never once questioned him about his multi-cup per day coffee habit, which, it turned out, was the only problem.

            Another case involved a woman who had come to me after visiting her “specialist” at a MAJOR university hospital about a very high cholesterol level. After I gave her several plans to choose from. A month later, she came back to inform me that her total had dropped 93 points and that her cardiologist’s jaw dropped, saying that it was “impossible”. No meds, no rhabdomyolysis, no side effects, NADA.

            I have many, many more.

            But go ahead, you do it your way. That’s what the industry is begging for, uninformed people who can’t even figure out what questions to ask.

          • Jeff

            These cases you cite are all real, but so are the thousands of breast cancers and other types, Type 1 diabetes, and a thousand other ailments that require medical attention. If you don’t get it, you die. And the emergency room, while it will stabilize you after a heart attack or put your broken leg in a cast, will not provide ongoing insulin, cancer therapy, nor the kind of preventive care that might prevent a heart attack. You’re pointing to individual cases where an overworked doctor overlooked something as reasons we don’t need doctors. There are people who smoke and drink and live to be 90, too. I don’t recommend trying it.

          • BR549

            As long as you bury your nose into the allopathic methodology, that will, unfortunately, be the only thing that will make sense to you. It’s your choice.

            At some point, I DID say that allopathic medicine had its place, and it does. But just as much as we need to be able to intervene in very extreme circumstances, there are many other people who take the utmost pride in living more within the laws of nature, instead of irresponsibly assuming that someone will always be there to rescue them at the last minute for doing things that more disciplined people would consider STUPID.

            While many MDs are too well informed about the many pharmaceutical offerings to address various health issues that are caught too late, far too few of them can elaborate on the assault on the detoxification pathways needed through the taking of those pharmaceuticals. Then we typically see patients with 8, 10, 14 or more meds and no one looking at the larger picture.

            It doesn’t sound like you understand, so I won’t grind your nose in it any further.

            I’m done here, anyway. Have a nice day.

          • Jeff

            I probably agree with you on this issue far more than you think, but you’re not addressing the big issue. If there are situations calling for medical involvement and the person can’t afford health insurance, are we to just let him die? A healthy, in great shape 40 year old develops Type 1 diabetes. No behaviors made it happen – purely an autoimmune disorder. Without insulin, he dies. With it, he lives a normal life. Does he have to move to Canada to stay alive?

          • BR549

            Jeff wrote: “I probably agree with you on this issue far more than you think, but you’re not addressing the big issue.”

            Jeff, I just said in the last post that Allopathy had its place. THAT is the larger issue, even if you continue to try to redefine your objection to natural medicine.

            You wrote: “If there are situations calling for medical involvement and the person can’t afford health insurance, are we to just let him die? …… A healthy, in great shape 40 year old develops Type 1 diabetes. No behaviors made it happen – purely an autoimmune disorder. Without insulin, he dies.”

            Who said anything about letting anyone die? You are COMPLETELY missing the point. First of all, Diabetes is very complex and it takes into account a whole host of factors, but to address your immediate comment is this quote from the following:
            http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/54/suppl_2/S125.full

            “Early nutrition has indeed been implicated as a potential risk factor for later type 1 diabetes (76),” ……….. which is precisely one of the points I’ve been trying to illustrate.

          • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

            My grand-niece has Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis. She has had it since she was about 2 years old. She is now 5. My cousin’s wife recognized the symptoms and suggested that my niece ask her Doctor. She does, without any doubt, have it. It is not curable.

            My niece is a nutritionist. She and her daughter eat healthy meals and snacks.

            I am glad that you were able to help the people that you have. But, in reality, there are a majority of illnesses that are not caused by anything that those people did. In some cases, it is a genetic pre-dispossition for it. In some, there is nothing to indicate that there is.

          • BR549

            Tigeer wrote: “in reality, there are a majority of illnesses that are not caused by anything that those people did. In some cases, it is a genetic pre-dispossition for it.”

            Again, for the THIRD time, allopathic medicine has it’s place, ….. as does holistic. And far too many times, even when people SAY they eat healthy, SOMEWHERE in their dietary and stress profile are blatant aggravating factors, and what MDs peg as hereditary are only adverse family genetic traits, normally suppressed, where the body has run out of suppression capacity. Relative to using food based medical intervention, there is a class of dietary supplements referred to as nutraceuticals. Metagenics is but one of them.

            The Gerson diet might help in her case; some have seen improvement with it for RA, and I would look at gut permeability allowing inappropriately sized proteins through the intestinal lining. Proteins SHOULD have been cleaved through gastric acid and/or gastric enzyme exposure. Anything larger than di-or tri peptides starts to present a problem where permeability arises (through inflammation) and then presents recognizable proteins, at least enough to challenge immune recognition. Thus, we have this one statement from one site: “Several studies have shown that many rheumatoid arthritis patients have low levels of stomach acid (hydrochloric acid) and pepsin in their stomachs.” (which leads back to what I was saying)

            So, people can actually be eating all the right things and still have their digestive system running under par; like having a V8 engine with two shorted plug wires and wondering why the plugs are dirty, the O2 sensor keeps spitting OBD2 codes, and the expensive catalytic converter has become trashed. Something like that.

            That’s the avenue I would have approached this from, and that’s not even knowing any particulars about your grand-niece. And while we are on the topic of autoimmune issues, while the foreign entrants into our blood stream are supposed to be ‘targeted’ by the immune system, many times there are some protozoans and other troublesome organisms that mimic the protein structures of seemingly benign proteins that might have slid through our lax “gut security” while we’re under stress.

            Here is just one site on the issue, but attempting to find relief without finding the problem is only using the child as a guinea pig. Unfortunately, the medical insurance companies don’t want to pay for the tests that might be necessary, so many people are on their own.
            http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11600741

            Has she had a Lyme titer, BTW?

            A good naturopath would follow all of this.

          • Jeff

            It’s ironic that in the places where diets are the least healthy, opposition to the Affordable Healthcare Act is highest.

          • BR549

            Jeff stated: “It’s ironic that in the places where diets are the least healthy, opposition to the Affordable Healthcare Act is highest.”

            Opposition isn’t just from those places; there is absolutely NO authority to impose what the health insurance industry has been passing off as Affordable Health Care. It’s one thing to do a damn good job of offering it to the public, and in doing so, perhaps one would be stupid not to participate, but this plan has nothing to do with health care and is more about efficiency and the bottom line for the industry. That’s why many MDs are thinking of dropping out.

            Personally, I think the idea is very sound, and I have no objection at all to participating in health care for all, but not if they force me to have to personally use it as my only option while it still reeks of corruption.

          • BR549

            Smilee,
            “RESPONSE: THE CIVIL WAR WAS OVER 147 YEARS AGO, GET OVER IT. IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SO MANY WHOM ARE SO OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE REAL WORLD TODAY AND YOU CLEARLY ARE ONE OF THEM.”

            It’s nice to see that we still have so many people slurping the pablum and without any clue as to what the Cilvil War was actually about. Jeez, I was reading about this stuff in high school back in 1967. You, apparently, feel competent enough to comment after having a thorough understanding of Barney the Dinosaur. I am NOT from the South, BTW, as much as it would suit your argument; I’m just a dyed in the wool northerner, who happened to learn the truth.

    • BR549

      Ana stated: “What about the small arms treaty that’s pending in the UN that the Obama administration plans to sign on to which will violate our 2nd.”

      Under Article 6 Sec. 2, the people are bound under treaties made by the legislature. One, the president, by himself cannot engage anyone in a treaty, and two, Article 6 Sec 3 states that “The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution …..”

      The short of this is that no Constitution violating treaty can be engaged in by any above mentioned member. So, Hillary and Obama’s attempts to curtail the 2nd Amendment are in violation, period. This is the single largest issue (the 2nd Amendment) that the bankers have objected to for almost 200 years, that citizens should be allowed to own guns.

      It is no wonder that the only people who are still pulling the broken down Brady Bill cart have ZERO comprehension about why the 2nd was ever drafted or what the consequences would be if it were never there. These people are brain dead; totally brain dead, yet, without even boning up on the issues for any informed discussion, they are, today, dancing in the streets saying, “OBAMA WON!!!!!OBAMA WON!!!!!”

      • Jeff

        The 2nd amendment is the only portion of the Bill of Rights that DOES state a rationale. But that rationale is strictly at odds with the manner in which conservatives like to interpret the amendment. It is clear from reading the two clauses together that the amendment essentially says the Federal Government is staying out of gun regulation and leaving it to the states. To read that entire amendment as guaranteeing every American the right to own a firearm requires mental gymnastics available only to a true ideologue. Add to that the enormous destructive power of modern firearms (particularly assault rifles) compared to muskets and you have a policy that is truly insane.

      • Ana

        Jeff, your argument is absurd. No one is talking about housing violations here we’re talking about government compelling a religious institutions to be an accessory to what we consider murder. That’s a whole other kettle of fish.

      • Ana

        Jeff, again your argument has holes. The Second Amendment was strictly designed to protect citizens against a tyranical government, as in the case of our revolt against the British. It was strictly designed to enforce the basic premise of our Republic; that we own the government, the government doesn’t own us. That was not the case prior to the revolution. Citizens were the subjects and property of the King.

        One of the best lines I ever heard was in the movie Fail Safe. ‘If every Nazi was greeted by a Jew with a gun do you think the Holocaust would have ever happened?’ This is more important today than since the revolution where the present administration views the citizens as subjects and not citizens.

  • Chris

    Well we’ll never know who is the lesser of 2 evils…….but……..while people like to blame “one” person……..remember all the brainless behind them. I hope for Jesse in 2016.

    • BR549

      Chris stated: ” I hope for Jesse in 2016.”

      Jesse may talk like a street person, but managed to acquire a decent financial profile along with becoming governor of Minnesota. NO ONE, I repeat, NO ONE could ever question Jesse’s loyalty to this country. We should be focusing our election efforts on a candidate who actually supports the Constitution instead of just talking about it while continually pandering to banking interests.

      If Jesse got into office, I’m having this feeling that non-globalist foreign heads of state would respect the hell out of him for having testicles enough to fight this level of corruption. As with any run for the executive office, no one president has ever been able to juggle all the balls without having a trusted set of advisors. The only problem has been that, for the last 50 years or so, all these so-called “advisors” have been hand picked by the likes of Rockefeller and represent the banking industry, i.e. the Rothschilds.

      I could see Ralph Nader as one hell of an advisor.

  • vietnamvet1971

    Our Savoir Obama and the Socialist are going to save us and the USA, lets get Real, America is done with will some one turn out the lights.

    People Please quit Living & Dreaming in your Fantasy Land.

    • Jeff

      I knew Agent Orange destroyed brain cells, but I had no idea the extent of the destruction.

  • http://torahperspective.com Banner Kidd

    By looking at some if the comments here it becomes clear that many can’t read this true assessment of the left/right paradigm without putting on their favorite red or blue glasses. This is why those who seek to enslave us will succeed. Wake up! We are being lied to by both sides!

  • braindeadus

    Don’t cry to me I am a Ron Paul supporter you voted for these two socialist now live with whats coming.

  • http://gravatar.com/cajungram cajungram

    I have heard many black people say that slaves built this country. Well, now they can be proud because a non-slave black, who’s father is from Africa, will destroy all their hard work and bring this country down to the same standards as Haiti and all African nations. How ironic.

    • Mary

      Well said…..

    • Ana

      What’s even more ironic is that Obama’s family was slave holders in Kenya.

  • Gene

    Appears to me too many here has drank to much of the Kool-aid. Hope you like Communism. Let lay-offs’ begin.

    • Ana

      You’re wrong. Who we choose did make a difference. We had a choice between being a free and properous nation or becoming a nation that is as poor as Kenya. We choose the later. Maybe you don’t realize it but Capitalism can’t work in a vacuum. Or to quote JKF – A Rising Tide Floats All Boats.

      Obama is going to, as he says, tax the rich, all as he wages a war on the middle class with the hidden tax of inflation. But the rich, who are the job creators, have enough money where they don’t have to stay here. They can go to totally free Economic Free Zones anywhere throughout the world and not be taxed a penny. When the rich decide to up and do that we are really screwed in this country.

  • James Corbin

    Dave H —— You know what you are talking about —–Right on——-They keep saying about Bush, Obama has been in office for four years——-If Bush was so bad why would Obama follow suit and increase debt? He will destroy us

  • tom

    A lot of you out there are blaming our government for our problems, the real truth is this is our fault, we have allowed this to happen, yes this government is a product of our lack to check and balance them. If things continue the way they are the only out will eventually be another revolution.

    • Mary

      Yes, Tom, unfortunately that is the direction we are heading in very quickly. We have become a fat, lazy, complacent society who has turned a blind eye to our government and whate they were doing. Now we have the pay the price and do something to finally change it.Anyone with half a brain knows the truths, but how to approach the situation in the best way is the question.I’m looking for answers right now. We must demand our government gives us the information we seek and listen to us, or we must do what it takes to bring back the premise of what America was founded on in the first place. A break away from government. It has failed us miserably.

    • BR549

      That’s true, but the average person in the bleachers didn’t swear an oath of public office to support the Constitution. No one put a gun tho these politicians’ heads and made them take office; they VOLUNTEERED themselves as being expert enough social managers to at least hire qualified assistants to help out.

      So, if everything was so above-board, transparent, honest, and hunky-dory, why are we in the mess we’re in? It’s because they lied, and even if they had been challenged by corrupt elements, they had an obligation to step down, come clean, or impeach the other bastard who got sucked into the darkside. But nothing ever gets done and nothing ever changes for the better. And they remain silent.

      The population may be lax, but as far as the legislature is concerned, it is entirely an issue of integrity.

      They’re all guilty; if not for acts of Commission, then acts of omission.

  • http://Yahoo.com Maynard

    Let’s see if we can create a bit of agreement here: Can’t most of us agree that Bush was not a Conservative? Can’t most of us agree Obama is not a Liberal? If anything he is a bit of a populist who has expanded medicare and medicaid to include everyone but we all are supposed to contribute to its upkeep and noone can be denied because of preexisting conditions or thrown off by an insurance company when the treatments get expensive. The pooling of everyone will bring down costs.

    Where is there any evidence Obama is a Muslim? Where is the evidence Muslims are such terrible people? If we go back to their beginnings, they and the Jews admit, they are descendents of Abraham through his son Ismael. They believe in the Ten Commandments as we do. In Iran, there are many Jews and they do not want to leave. There are even some Jews elected to their Parliament.
    I know they have been smeared with the accusation that they caused 9/11. The first attempt to connect Muslims with violent attacks came in the 60′s when the USS Liberty was attacked by Israel. The intent was to sink it with our own government’s approval and then pin it on Egypt so the US could enter the war on Israel’s side. The captain called for help and when it started out LBJ ordered the assistance to pull back. Just when it looked like the ship was doomed, a Russian spy ship came over the horizon and the Israelis retreated. The surviving sailors were forbidden to speak of this but by now the facts have emerged.
    The next major effort to smear all Muslims was in 1993. The FBI set up a sting operation. They used a former Egyptian Army officer named Ahmed Salem to be their intermediary with a group of radical, extremist Muslims. When the FBI ordered Salem to give them real explosives to use in the basement of the WTC, Salem couldn’t believe it. So, he recorded the FBI in case they would try to wrap him up in the plot too. When the WTC basement was blown up enormous damage was caused and six people were killed. Salem turned his tapes over and it was published in the NYTimes what the FBI did. Still, somehow, it was generally ignored and the FBI got away unscathed.
    The next effort proved more successful. Saddam was angry with Kuwait because they were sending drills diagonally and extracting some Iraqi oil. Furthermore, he wanted to annex Kuwait as there really was no historical reason for them to be separate. He got secret assent from the US and then we used it as a way to double cross him. To get the American public suitably outraged, Papa Bush had the pretty little Kuwaiti daughter of one of their ambassadors take a seat in Congress to tell her tearful, well-rehearsed tale of the tiny terrified Kuwaiti tots being ripped out of their incubators. It worked like a charm and the US carpet-bombed untold sitting ducks and practiced using radioactive bullets, developing Gulf War Syndrome. Still, since it made some Muslims (Kuwaitis look sympathetic, it was not a perfect way to smear all Muslims).
    By the end of the century, the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) which included many dual US-Israeli citizens, neo-cons like the Bushes, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Condoleezza Rice, Phillip Zelikow who would later lead the “Investigation” into 9/11 and many other Bush Administration luminaries met and wrote down their brilliant ideas. They wrote that “absent some catalytic and catastrophic event like a New Pearl Harbor,” the US public would not support a whole hog military buildup and crusade which was aimed at absconding with that nice rich juicy Middle East Oil. They did not say that last part, they just wrote longingly about “Peak Oil” and how it was going to run out and as oilmen, at least formany of them, that would be the end of the world.
    Sure enough, they got in power, (Vy hook and by crook and the Supremes) and got their War Games all lined up for cover-up, sent the airliners which may well have been drones or remote controlled, on their way, and took out the WTC and the Pentagon. Bob Livingston has already informed us about his belief that this was an inside job. I made an attempt to add more details, but I got very few who responded despite me typing my little finger tips bloody. I am willing to do it again if for no other reason than to show all you Bush defenders, yes, the Bushes are the American crime family that has reached the highest political pinnacles, and plunged us in the deepest economic and political depths, from which we barely escaped not just with Bush and Cheney’s departure, but again with Romney and most of the same crew almost back in power.
    Please respond. Call me names if you wish, but true refutation uses evidence, logic, analysis and reasoning.

    • BR549

      Maynard, as I recall, the Israelis had caught the US surveilling their radio transmissions to their tank commanders and infantry to violate the cease fire. Maybe the other stuff was going on too, but Johnson’s actions that day were nothing short of treason, even if was the president. There’s never a Lee Harvey Oswald around when you need one (except that LHO was just another patsy, like Ahmed Salem, the underwear bomber, and the long list of other dingleberries that our own FBI has used to “supposedly” route out terror.

      No argument from me. You had a lot of relevant info; I was just surprised that someone was willing to wrote more lengthy posts than me. You’re right on about the Bushes, but just to stay on focus, the REAL problem after Rockefeller, ca 1973, was GHWB sliding in under the radar to sabotage Reagan’s honest attempts at the presidency. To them, Reagan was just another useful patsy, like everyone in their way. Both Clintons are in this just as deep and they should both be cited for treason, and now we have Obama carrying the globalist relay baton. Nothing partisan about it; it’s merely an issue of integrity and loyalty, and none of these bastards since Reagan has had any. I liked Carter, that was until I found out he too was a Rockefeller stooge.

      I’m not sure if you caught my post on another thread about Sen. Joe McCarthy, back when he was doing his inquisition thing, but he wasn’t so much trying to point out that we had communists in the population as he was trying to bring public awareness to the fact that they had already infiltrated the legislature (something like what actor Jamers Gregory, playing Senator Iselin, did in the 1962 “Manchurian Candidate”, by accusing the legislature of having xxxx number of card carrying communists, except that McCarthy was closer to the truth).

      • Jeff

        You give McCarthy too much credit. He was a drunk searching for an issue to keep his name in the newspaper. He couldn’t find a communist in Red Square.

        • BR549

          Jeff wrote: “You give McCarthy too much credit. He was a drunk searching for an issue to keep his name in the newspaper. He couldn’t find a communist in Red Square.”

          Open up those books a bit deeper to the back pages and you’ll see that he was our ‘miner’s canary’ informing us of a burgeoning deeper problem. Like Ike, when he (actually his speech writer) struck out the word ‘Congressional’ from the “Military-Industrial-Congressional-Complex” for his now famous TV speech, he was having to bring focus to a huge problem without having himself get viewed through a rifle scope by several over-industrious CIA employees.

          McCarthy was yelling “the Commies are coming”, and they were; just not from Russia; they were coming from political forces already deep with in the US.

          • Ana

            Yep, Roosevelt’s cabinet was full of CPUSA card carrying, report to Stalin, communists and outright Soviet spies.
            BTW – The UnAmerican Activities Committee was formed by Democrats to investigate Communist infiltration in all segments of society. Before Communists infiltrated the Democratic Party, the Communist Party was the mortal enemies of the Democratic Party. Though Liberals have done such a good job of rewriting history on the subject, writings from Communist of the past, tell the real story of how they were not only persecuted by the Democrats but how they decided to infiltrate the party as a way of stopping that persecution.

    • Ana

      Obama care does not bring down health cost and it does not save a person from bankrupcy due to medical cost. It does, however, infringe on our freedoms and is unfair in that it doesn’t treat each person under the mandate equally. It also is bad for employers and has some severe anti-constitutional privacy rights embedded in it. Here are just some examples – READ THIS CAREFULLY

      Employers with more than 50 full-time employees must provide health insurance or pay fines. This is already impacting employees who are getting their hours cut down to part-time as a result. Obamacare drives more restaurants to cut worker hours to part-time. http://washingtonexaminer.com/obamacare-drives-more-restaurants-to-cut-worker-hours-to-part-time/article/2510582
      As for exemptions from the mandate there is nothing about a time limit in the section below. It was included to appease the unions to get their support for the bill. It clearly violates the 5th and 14th Amendments.
      Sec. 164, Pg. 65 is an exemption for union employees and their families & community organizations (ACORN).
      In addition to that outrage there are also these privacy issues –
      Sec. 163, Pg. 58-59 beginning at line 5 – Government will have real-time access to individual’s finances & a National ID health care card will be issued!
      Sec. 163, Pg. 59, Lines 21-24 – Government will have direct access to your bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.
      Who the hell in their right mind is going to maintain a bank account? What about the right to privacy?

  • Eagleeye

    I have seen the same vision since 2008 concerning a new monetary system rather than the dollar. You see, Satan cannot put “THE MARK OF THE BEAST” on Americans as long as the dollar is king so this administration COLLAPSES THE DOLLAR BY DEBT! Then they CONFISCATE ALL MEANS OF DEFENSE ie. GUNS AND AMMUNITION so then they can ENFORCE “THE MARK OF THE BEAST”! People have laughed at me since I had suggested this and yes they still as they voted for Obama twice. Soon BUSINESSES WILL FAIL AND CLOSE. Then people will completely DEPEND ON GOVERNMENT FOR FOOD, WATER, MEDICINE, HOUSING, AND OF COURSE BEST OF ALL “WE ARE ALL GOING TO PAY OUR FAIR SHARE”! PREPARE TO DEFEND WITH YOUR LIFE! Just as Andrew Jackson said “Frank Marshall has his law. NOW LET THEM ENFORCE IT! WE MUST STAND TOGETHER AND PRAY FOR YHWH’S PROTECTION AND SHIELD AS WE MARCH TOWARDS THE GOAL OF “FREEDOM” AND “EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL”! If the feds come WE HAVE A DUTY AND AN OBLIGATION TO STAND UP AND FIGHT TO THE DEATH AGAINST “TYRANNICAL RULE”!!!! With the GUIDANCE OF YHWH and YESHUA WE SHALL PREVAIL FOREVER IN ETERNITY! FOR WE “STAND WITH TRUTH AND LOVE”!!!! PREPARE TO DEFEND!!! PREPARE YOUR SOULS FOR ETERNITY!!! PLEASE IF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBTS ABOUT YHWH WATCH “AMAZING DISCOVERIES” WITH RON WYATT!!!!! Once you view this THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN DENY “THE FATHER OF ALL THINGS”!!! Soon man will be told of YHWH’S TRUTH and at that time will have to decide whether to live in “eternity” or live on Earth and DIE! WE ARE SAVED BY YHWH AND NOW WE MUST STAND WITH HIM AND FOLLOW HIS TEACHINGS AS TIMES ARE GOING TO GET EVIL FAST! “YHWH PLEASE FORGIVE MAN AND BLESS YOUR FOLLOWERS!!! “HAVE MERCY ON OUR ENEMIES AS THEY COME IN FRONT OF YOUR LIGHT”!!!!

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      If you are truly having dreams like this then, IMHO, you need some serious psychiatric help.

  • Louis Lemieux

    Brandon Smith says: “Election 2012: How The Winner Will Destroy America.“ No doubt the kind of America Mr. Smith wants will be destroyed but not the kind of America most Americans want.

  • Iamdone

    No longer can you liberals blame Bush. Barry is coming into a ‘new’ presidency (SIC) that HE alone made. From the last four years I have seen what he is passionate about: playing golf, hobnobbing with celebrities, taking expensive vacations on MY dime ( he and michelle spent more money to keep them in style than the ENTIRE monarchy in Great Britain ) , getting to work at 10 and leaving at 4 ( you can check this out easy to do), turning our friends and allies away and embracing radical islam and bowing to enemies. Being a narcissist, it is all about barry and no one else.

    Now let’s see what ‘tricks’ he has played. Student loans. Too bad he lied, the interest goes up in Jan, medicare that he took 715 BILLION dollars from the fund obamacare, your payments increase about 3+% in Jan ( oops he lied about that too) Bush tax decreases ( whatever you want to call them,) sunset in Jan, anyone owning a house and selling it 500k or more ( and in some states this is nothing) you will pay about 3.8% sales taxes on the SELLING price, come Jan when sequestration hits and all of the defense contractors file lawsuits because barry told boeing et al to hold off until after the election, OUR tax dollars will be defending the contractors who blatantly BROKE the law, the Harm Act because barry told asked them to hold off so it wouldn’t hurt him. LIES LIES LIES I already know some contractors that have already joined the law suit. Hundreds of thousands of people are slated to lose their jobs with sequestration. These people right now are paying taxes to fund welfare, unemployment, etc. when they are not working who is going to pay for them and the others? This will also devastate the economy even more. If you have no money you don’t buy goods, you don’t eat out, don’t buy cars, etc etc. also those vendors/companies that provide services to those federal workers from paper to pencils to flak jackets will too be out of work. Oh didn’t barry explain what sequestration really would do to the economy? OF COURSE NOT. Did anyone that heard about it care enough to research? Probably not. This country has become a bunch of ‘ it is all about me and today’ and what can I get for free. NOTHING IS FREE Someone like me is paying for it and I have had enough. I no longer will donate or contribute. In VA alone a person on welfare with all of the benefits makes $75,000 a year. Yes SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND on welfare. The American people as my dearly departed Grandmother used to say were bamboozled.

    Lastly four years is a long time but not a life time. I pray to God our country is not destroyed beyond repair.

    God help us.

    • Louis Lemieux

      Distortion of the truth using mental contortions is repugnant to human intelligence

      • Iamdone

        Don’t believe? Conduct your own research, everything can be verified . I have already done mine. So sad there are still kool aid drinkers. You too will suffer the consequences of a bad decision.

  • 71unicorn

    Gee- I thought this election was just like watching “Dancing with the Stars”.
    Simply a popularity contest with little merit due to performance by the winner. We all know the better dancer does not always win. This election boiled down to who did the best selling job. Romney with his ideas could not compete with Obama’s giveaways to the unions *bought votes in OH), promise of amnesty to illegals (bought CA, FL and CO), expansion of government (bought VA – proximity to DC jobs) just to mention some of the so-called swing states.

  • 71unicorn

    Can we please get off the blame “Bush” game. It is really get old. I would not be surprised if Obama tried to emulate the mayor of NYC trying to get a third term to “finish the job”.

  • Ted Quick

    A Quick Note:

    The inmates have taken over the asylum. Nearly every American is worse off today than they were yesterday, tomorrow will be worse than today and so it will go. The give-me-more-free-stuff crowd is still in control. The slackers will take more from the producers weakening America even more. What those on the left, who are still producing, don’t understand is that they are going to be weakened as well because they are targets along with the rest of us. While they may be blind and in denial about the financial disaster screaming towards us, their futures are as perilous as ours.

    There is some number of that infamous 47% who really are “on the dole”, (either because of physical or psychological handicaps or they’ve simply decided to live off of the rest of us) who, along with BO and his circle-of-power, are the only winners in this year’s election. Any of us who are still paying even a small part of our own way, (including those on the left), are going to be carrying a growing burden as this out-of-control regime demands evermore from a contracting working public.

    In their book, The Miracle of Freedom, 7 Tipping Points that Saved the World, by Chris and Ted Stewart (a highly recommended read by the way) they pointed out that only approximately 4.5% of the 100-110 billion people who have ever lived on this earth have lived in what we think of as a free society. And 50% of our fellow Americans just voted to destroy that freedom.

    It is inarguable that we became the most successful country to ever have existed because of the freedom bestowed upon is by our Constitution. That freedom gave us the opportunity to create, market and sell products and services that the public found desirable; that’s the free-market system or (that most detestable of all words to the left), capitalism. Capitalism created America, the America that we’ve come to love and respect. Our freedom to pursue our dreams, as long as they were not detrimental to others, is without question the energy that fueled our engine and built our once great nation.

    One can argue, and the left does endlessly, that the wealthy have taken unfair advantage of the downtrodden, but there is not another country in the world whose poor are as wealthy as our poorest. In fact, many of our poorest are better off than all but the wealthiest from most other nations. So the left’s argument falls on deaf ears because the truth is so wonderfully obvious to anyone who actually “thinks” instead of simply feeling. It is so much easier to be a victim than it is to stare reality in the face and make changes. The left can’t understand (or doesn’t care) that life is not fair and that it never will be. All their policies do is to make life even more unfair to those of us who are actually making the effort.

    So America, the new America which is being sculpted by this reelected administration, is heading towards doomsday. How much more can be tolerated: 60% more national debt than 4 years ago; Obamacare costs have begun with catastrophic increases around the corner; a fictitious 8% unemployment number; a fiscal cliff hitting us January 1st, a president who ignores the judiciary and Congress by issuing unconstitutional executive orders and who (based upon the evidence I’ve seen) was responsible for the murder of four innocents in Benghazi. All this, while 50% of our country blithely congratulates itself for reelecting the most dangerous president our country has ever seen; a party so blinded by its ideology that it’s incapable of seeing the sickening truth that lies ahead.

    I pray for wisdom and a way out.

    • http://facebook tydub

      Ted Quick, its appearent that you hate the fact tha the president got re-elected but, you and hateful people like you may never be happy again because the face of America is changing. With the explosion of the latan population and the voting patterns of all the other so called minority groups people like yourself who are consumed with hate no longer have the majority vote. Therefore, the only thing left for ignorent, small minded, hate consumed people is to get on blogs and belly ach about how terrible everything is going to be because the man who was going to make it hard for everyone except white people did’nt get elected.

      • Ted Quick

        My, oh my! I won’t bother correcting your spelling and your grammar but instead say that I’m sorry that you and those on your side are so blinded by your ideology that you are incapable of seeing the truth. Since you obviously aren’t able to recognize a habitual prevaricator I can understand why you can’t tell the difference between a destroyer and a builder. Your blindness protects you from the truth, so I don’t expect you to understand what I have to say, but just know, that If the ship goes down, you too will be on it.

      • Ana

        Democratic policies are hurting the poor and minorities more than any other group. You fail to realize that inflation is a tax that the poor can least afford.

  • 71unicorn

    Oh – I forgot to mention that since I am from MD and a registered democrat (yes-that is the truth), you should all be warned that a white Obama clone is waiting in the wings.
    Martin O’Malley has his sights set on 2016. He loves taxes and spending, and even though MD is one of the wealthiest states (lots of government and defense related jobs), if you make over $100K you are considered rich and that is reflected in MD income tax rates (special millionaire tax did not cut it). Buyer beware!

    • BR549

      71unicorn wrote: “Martin O’Malley has his sights set on 2016.”

      Unless he’s approved by Rockefeller and Bilderberg, his ass ain’t goin’ nowhere; at least not toward the presidency.

  • Tincansailor

    Most Americans just don’t get it yet. It doesn’t matter if a D or an R steps up to the plate. They don’t work for us anymore. R’s play for the War machine and D’s play for the unions, gays, minorities and global warming scam artists. But they both want us divided on all issues. Why is this? Because if we ever came together as a nation that loved and respected each other, we would be a powerful force that they could not stop. That’s why they own our media and feed us propaganda that we accept as “news”. Please educate yourselves now or perish like Europe is about to do. Peace

    • Ana

      I had to laugh when I read your post. So R plays for the war machine. For the record, the majority of the wars in this country were presided over by Dem presidents. BTW – It’s always the Dems who impose the draft. For all the young loosers who voted for Obama there is a good chance their butts will be drafted under this president. It will be a good way to get rid of a large segment of the population when the libs impose gun control.

  • dhip

    The GOP is the only thing that has stood against Obama pushing our country into a total slide toward communism and a muslim state. Unfortunately, those getting their free cellphones and all kinds of government gifts have thought differently, wanting their freebies to continue, as they have. Interestingly when you look at the voting, you realize that the majority of the votes for a socialistic state come from large population centers where people don’t have the personal strength of self, their fears being in their own abilities to survive without the help of someone else, like the government, their only real friend. As well, they look to immigration of the poor so they can take advantage of them while at the same time creating a ruse on the self-sufficient Americans. And that inlcudes blacks who they have taken advantage of for decades. And they call these people progressives.

    You can look to mid-America, where people are more self-sufficient and show the strength of their being able prosper based upon their own abilities, not worrying about the government to take care of them. They are one of the facets that made our country great, self-dependency and the resolve to prosper, without government intervention and without having the government making everyone equal in terms of their abilities and achievement. Tax the rich more so you can lessen their incentive to achieve and innovate, and have more to spend on their socialist ways and bloodsuckers wanting still more

    • Ana

      I also originally thought that what you said was true. But then I heard some statistics that spun my head around. There were 3 million less Republicans who voted for Romney then who voted for McCain in ’08. Out of 80% of Conservatives only 20% choose to vote. Their reason for not voting – Romney didn’t have their values! Since when did this election become a referendum on Romney and not on Obama? I was stunned when I heard this. I can’t understand these people. It’s said 60% of Americans are against Obamacare. Well, if that’s true, where the hell were they on election day? Conservatives marched on the WH against Obamacare. They protested Scotus over Obamacare and outnumbered pro-Obamacare protesters 3-1. So why would they think it’s more important whether homosexuals get married, or a woman has an abortion, than a new law that will enslave the nation in debt and take away our right to choose our own heath care plan?

  • Rob56

    I want to thank all the contributors of this web site for helping me make a final decision. I will remove myself from all future mailings. As you who post here do not have a clue whats going on in your own backyard let alone the USA.

  • http://gravatar.com/dalene44 Justin57

    Scary how “leftists” have been so easily indoctrinated without being aware of it. They have fallen for the same rhetoric and routine all tyrants have used to seize power. Simple minded fools.

    • Smilee

      Your just a sore loser filled with hate

      • Donald Darden

        Not just the simple minded, though we have them among us. Intellectuals who love the ideology of it, those that sit each Sunday and hear it from the puplit like it was straight from God’s lips, and of course those that fail to find their own place, but now have a home among others that believe that this is the way to go. I’ve had disputes with some that call themselves Socialists online, and guess what? Either they preach the tag lines from some Socialistic document, or they try to knock you down with veilled insults, but they never run facts at you. I don’ think they know what the facts are.

  • Alicia Wallace

    Scary stuff I pray that God will Step in and help us in this dark scary place..

  • http://www.facebook.com/ralph.j.destefano Ralph J DeStefano

    You know it”s pretty funny to hear everyone cry it was Bushs fault we are in this mess but don”t realize that at that time the house and senate where controlled by Democrates and to tell you the truth it”s the democrates who got us into this mess to begin with so enough with blameing Bush already and start holding your present Pres. accountable!

  • C.J n NE Ohio

    Yes Indeed, It does’nt matter that Oba became Pres’ it’s going down, as they cut off every freedom, our Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the basic principle of Liberty, Pick an Amendment and all are under attack, Obama ,4yrs’ ago, in less than 2 weeks after being sworn in as Pres’, signed Order, FOCA, the Freedom of Choice Act. It allows the freedom to legally Abort a baby, for any reason, at any time of the pregnancy,in any manner ( Acid mixture to fry the baby/ shove a Vac in and tear the body apart , pulling the baby out feet-first just till the base of the skull is exposed,then the ‘murder’ers’ jam an insturment up into the head/brain, tearing the brain apart and the a quick vacumn and then the baby’s body is probubly sold knowing how depraved we the Gov $ PPH and Worldwide Murder/Contraception. Also, if the baby is alive and survives the abortion is to be left to die,set on a table, a basin,their necks broken. Obama siigned FOCA in Jan,2oo9.and now a group of “Leaders’ decide who gets what treatment or not. World’s on fire so Oba may not finnish his term but take a New Position. Hug and kiss your loved ones n the Kids It’s written all thru the Word of God n Son, Jesus.What are you gonna do about Jesus? Only you can answer .So??? Close to the Edge

  • Big Burly

    Not a lot of sensible commentary in this spiel. Puerile name calling and finger pointing is not a solution to the mess we are in — where we are as a nation is not the doing of one POTUS or another. Bush was not blessed with a particularly stalwart Congress, particularly in his last 2 years. Clinton played fast and loose not just with the truth. The ready easy money and loose credit of the Fed Reserve, the wink and nod about the unscrupulous actions of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and other similar institutions in the 90s is a major contributor to the mess we find today. NO FIX has yet been discussed — those who think that what BHO’s administration has done for banking and to the auto and insurance industries needs to get a better education about money and who has it.
    Even under BHO, Congress is playing an enabling role.
    Continuing resolutions are not the same as budgets folks. We can all wish to kick the can down the road — however, the consequences of that are similar to what happened in Weimar Germany, Argentina more recently and what is happening in Greece. Poor people in our country will starve and the misery index for all but the super wealthy will increase.
    I do not share all the prognostications in this editorial piece.
    We will get some of what is described if we do not stop pointing fingers at each other.
    We need to push Congress to start acting in the best interest of those of us who live on Main Street and in the rural areas of this country.
    I am pretty sure we can get a good start on fixing the problems — but everybody has to pay a price and get a job. The hurt ahead has to be fully shared if we want our kids and grandkids to have a better opportunity.

  • KQJM

    It’s because of fear mongering like this that the election was lost. The continual portrayal of the POTUS as “the enemy” serves no national interest, no public policy, whatsoever. It’s thinking like this that the American Public rejected during this election…. but you still don’t get it, you still put the blinders on and continue the “prophesying” a future of “us” against the “destroyers”, of making yourselves the saviors and enlightened, and anyone who fails to jump on that train as a “liberal and enemy”. I think it’s called “narrow minded”.

    • JON

      You are so right about the fear mongering.

      And speaking of fear….

      Scientists discovered the “fear center” of the brain. It’s called the Amygdala. There was a study where they scanned the brains of conservatives and liberals. There is a actual physiological difference between the two. In the conservative brain the Amygdala was significantly larger. That is probably why conservatives have a tendency of reacting in a more fear-based manner; manifesting itself into anger. It helps to explain, but not to excuse their behavior.

      • Ana

        Americans have a right to be fearful now and for the future. Obama and his administration are far left radicals who are a mortal danger to the very principles this country was founded on – namely the Constitution. Anyone who doesn’t realize this has either got their head in the sand or is wearing rose colored glasses. For a portent of things to come try reading one of Bill Aye’s books. Friend and confidant of Obama (no matter Obama tries to distance himself from the man), he once advocated revolution and the overthrow of the US, splitting the country into 3 sectors and handing one over to the Soviet Union, one over to China, and one over to Cuba. Ayes no longer has to advocate revolution since the American public has willingly voted themselves into their hands.

        • Jeff

          I’ll bet you never said anything similar about Sarah Palin whose husband was a member of the Alaska First party for years, a party advocating the secession of Alaska from the Union. The difference is that whatever crazy thing Bill Ayers may once have said, Obama has never adopted any of his positions. If you insist on tying every politician to everything his most radical associates or supporters have ever said, then every southern Republican would be allied with the White Citizens Councils of the 60s and in favor of a return to Jim Crow.

          • Ana

            Read Bill Ayers present day works. They are not much different than his writings of the past. All envolve the enslavement of the American people. You say that Obama doesn’t hold the same views as Ayers but you would be wrong. Contrary to what Obama would like you to believe, that Ayers was just a neighbor who allowed him to jump-start his political career in Ayers livingroom, the truth is much more disturbing than that. Obama met Ayers while he was attending Columbia University. Ayers, leader of the Weather Undergroud, was in NYC at the time bumping off Brinks trucks with members of the Black Panter Party. Isn’t it beyond coincidental, that Obama, who has himself stated in both his books that he knew no one in Chicago, nor had any relatives there, should wind up going to Chicago to work for Bill Ayers father as a Community Organizer?
            Son’t be a fool! Obama and Ayers of two of a kind.

        • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

          “Obama and his administration are far left radicals who are a mortal danger to the very principles this country was founded on – namely the Constitution. Anyone who doesn’t realize this has either got their head in the sand or is wearing rose colored glasses.”

          The problem with your statement is that Obama and his Administration are not far left radicals and never have been. What has been happening is that the people that you listen to have continued repeating that they are for so long that you no long know what a far left radical is. And you refuse to believe facts when they are pointed out to you.

          As for Ayers, what he did when Obama was 9 is immaterial. He, quite obviously, no longer feels that way or he wouldn’t have joined the “establishment” that he fought against 40 years ago. This “horse” is dead and to continue beating it is a waste of effort. We, the majority of voters, have listened to this crap for over 4 years. We looked at the supposed evidence and decided that it had nothing to do with the present. That doesn’t mean that we were wrong. It only means that we didn’t agree with your assessment.

          BTW, anytime someone trys to say that Obama is evil, that Obama is out to destroy our (and his) country, that everything that Obama has done is wrong, you are going to get arguments from those of us who tend to look at both sides. And from those of us who are very well aware that politicians are not evil, they are just politicians. Trying to assign anything else to what they say or do is just not sane.

          • Ana

            Obama was not 9 when Ayers was terrorizing the US. He met Ayers while he was in Columbia University. Ayers sent Obama to Chicago to work with his father as a Community Organizer. A total BS position, btw. Obama has surrounded himself with far left radicals and hard core communist. Read the Communist. It tells the story of about Obama’s mentor (and some say Obama’s real father), Frank Marshall Davis, one of the heads of the CPUSA. Reading the writings of Davis is like listening to an Obama speech. David Axelrod, Valerie Jarret, and the rest of the mob all have ties to CPUSA, either directly or through their relatives, as in Axelrod’s father was a card carrying member of the CPUSA , as was Jarretts father-in-law. You need to do a little research before spouting off about things you know nothing about.

          • Ana

            BTW – Ayers didn’t change his goals or philosophy, just his tactics. Same way Frank Marshall Davis ran members of the CPUSA as Democrats to break the Democratic Party which he considered a mortal enemy of the CPUSA.

          • BR549

            tlgeer wrote: “And from those of us who are very well aware that politicians are not evil, they are just politicians.”

            Well, used car salesmen are just used car salesmen, too, but SOMEHOW they, like attorneys, have seemed to gain a reputation somewhat contrary to that of Mary Poppins. Hitler was evil, but I have no problem throwing the Bushes, the Clintons, Rumsfeld and particularly Cheney, in that same category. They all need to see jail time or a noose. The one thing that sets apart is that …….. they took an oath of service to support the Constitution.

      • BR549

        Jon infers that the conservative mind is more “fear based”. Well, John, check this out:
        http://lcap.psych.ucla.edu/pdfs/amodio_natureneuroscience07.pdf (Pg 2, 2nd paragraph)

        “…… Specifically, liberalism (versus conservatism) was associated with significantly greater conflict-related neural activity when response inhibition was required.”

        With particular emphasis on the last five words of that quote, that would seem to indicate that libtards get worked up over nothing and start making problems where there were none. What was that you said about fear?

        • Jeff

          Was your post written by Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert? You talk about this extremely technical study that, by itself, proves nothing, then to counteract the pretense at intellectual honesty, you regress to form on this blog and insult all who disagree with you by using the blog term “libtard.” The ironic thing is some of your analyses are far more left wing than anything you’ll ever hear from Obama or any other Democrat.

          As much as I can understand the study after a cursory reading, it appears that conservatives keep things simple. They rely on their first reaction without a lot of reflection. This is helpful if you’re a hunter-gatherer. Friend or enemy? Potential prey or potential predator? These are questions better kept simple as reflection may get you killed. In a more complex society, a bit of reflection is generally warranted. We don’t often need to make the kind of snap decisions we do when hunting for food with nothing but sticks and knives.

          • Ana

            Sometimes things are simple as black and white, right and wrong.

          • Jeff

            And sometimes they’re not.

          • BR549

            Jeff wrote: “Was your post written by Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert?”

            Jeff, I was only responding in kind to your ridiculous assertion that conservatives operate out of fear through their amygdala gland, which, BTW, is normally associated with the sense of smell. I wasn’t inferring that the article I presented focused on “libtards” or that they were inferior; only that, as this article stated, liberals and conservatives fire up different parts of their brains when dealing with the same political issues.

            Again, from another paragraph on Pg 2 of that study, “Taken together, our results are consistent with the view that political orientation, in part, reflects individual differences in the functioning of a general mechanism related to cognitive control and self-regulation1–3. Stronger conservatism (versus liberalism) was associated with less neurocognitive sensitivity to response conflicts.”

            Apparently, you get testy when someone throws your crap back at you, which is just what this part of the article seems to bear out. What a coincidence.

          • Jeff

            Maybe conspiracy theorists have poor memories. I never posted anything about the amygdala gland. I have read some things about physiological differences that may account for differences in political attitudes but don’t consider myself conversant enough to claim any expertise. I recall in college studying personality and politics and while the subject matter was fun, it’s nearly impossible to remain objective when studying something so clearly subjective.

          • BR549

            Jeff wrote: “I never posted anything about the amygdala gland.”

            You’re right; my bad. That was Jon.

    • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com Gillysrooms from Australia

      I’m glad you realise and hit the problem on the head. People just dont realise that history is just that and a new set of circumstances have developed from past government fiscal issues managed poorly and we never going to return back to the good old days again. The democraphics have changed…some of the old have died and new folk are getting closer to voting age and they dont even remember Bush or what is was like in those days. The Republicans main problem is its membership and supporters are too vocal and cant be disaplined with a modern strategy. Everytime a Mormon church follower and Republican makes a statement on church laws …he loses votes for the Republicans.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Mary

    Whether Republican or Democrat we as Americans of the U.S.A has lost all our rights. Our votes don’t count, our survival don’t count. Government has not been listening to the American people for quite sometime now. But we are intend to pay for all their spending, no jobs, except all the immigrants that are here illegally and their religion. Where is our rights? They are being taken away from us everyday as we sit here griping about what to do next. We as Americans don’t stand up and exercise our rights we keep waiting for someone else to do it for us. Well, WAKE UP AMERICA! If your not willing to they aren’t either. We were once a nation founded on God but now we are a dying nation w/o God. As far as Obama goes I truly believe that he does not have the United States best interest at heart.

    • Ted Quick

      Obama clearly has only his own selfish interests at heart. How can I stay in power? What must I do to stay in power? What must I do to assure Michelle’s election in 2016 if I haven’t figured out a way to bypass the two-term limit? How long do I have to hang onto approving the Keystone Pipeline (and other requests on my desk) before I’m privately offered billions to sign off on them? Will my removal of Petraeus from his office preclude him from testifying against me and will that protect me from my direct involvement in the murder of the 4 innocents in Benghazi? And I could go on for hours. Mary, he doesn’t care about the blacks, Latinos, whites, rich, poor or anybody else. It is ALL about himself and his power, period!!

      • Jeff

        Is it pure coincidence that you find all Democrats motivated by personal greed and all Republicans motivated by love of Country? Particularly interesting given that Romney’s tax plan could have been written by his personal CPA.

      • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

        ” How long do I have to hang onto approving the Keystone Pipeline (and other requests on my desk) before I’m privately offered billions to sign off on them?”

        Until the new environmental evaluations on the changes in where the pipeline is going to go are submitted and evaluated.

      • Ted Quick

        This is a response to Jeff & tlgeer: Jeff, I did not say that all Democrats are motivated by personal greed nor did I say that all Republicans are motivated by love of country. I said Obama is only.interested in his own power and control and that includes the power and control over all of you on the left. Tigeer, If 3 years is not enough time to evaluate the location of the Keystone Pipeline (he said he needed more time) then he is indeed either incompetent, which he is not, or he has an agenda he won’t speak about. If you believe otherwise I’m saddened by your naivete.

        • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

          “Tigeer, If 3 years is not enough time to evaluate the location of the Keystone Pipeline (he said he needed more time) then he is indeed either incompetent, which he is not, or he has an agenda he won’t speak about. If you believe otherwise I’m saddened by your naivete.”

          The President doesn’t do the evaluations. Plus, it was changed because the people near the aquifer protested. Loudly. I guess you’re not too knowledgeable about the environmental impact reports.

    • BR549

      Mary wrote: “We were once a nation founded on God but now we are a dying nation w/o God. As far as Obama goes I truly believe that he does not have the United States best interest at heart.”

      It has been accurately pointed out that no president since the early ’70s has gotten into office without the blessing of David Rockefeller. Well, it seems that Rockefeller had given his blessing to George Soros’ own hand picked and globalist compliant and oratorially gifted shoe shine boy, here, Obama, and here is a what our friend Rockefeller had to say about his loyalties to his own country. The following is from his book, “Memoirs”, from 2002.
      “Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure; — one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”

      So, all of these overexuberant, jumping-up-and-down-with-glee, hyperventilating, panty-wetting libtards have one huge ass surprise coming their way and from the looks of things, they won’t have to wait all that long. But importantly, Romney was also part of that same problem.

      For someone to be totally aware of all this corruption and still vote for Obama, I probably don’t mind as much, since we have all been denied any true choice, but when these dutiful brain-dead minions keep popping up out of the woodwork to apologize for Obama’s treason, it becomes apparent why ammunition suppliers have now come up with Zombie Targets, because after TSHTF, these people will be demanding that someone feed them, since they had made absolutely ZERO attempts to educate themselves to the truth.

      You’re spot on about God, though, Mary; too many people have allowed their own egos to run their lives instead of acknowledging that they needed to answer to a power higher than themselves.

  • Ana

    A thank you note from an average American

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/07/a-thank-you-note-from-an-average-american/#ixzz2BgfNRBwg

    Thank you, America. Thank you for re-electing Barack Obama.

    Thank you for solidifying Obamacare. Thank you for ensuring that my health insurance rates will rise to the point where my employer drops my coverage. Thank you for future higher prescription drug prices, for lower quality care, for long lines to see my doctor, and for allowing a board of 15 people to determine my fate. Thank you, America.

    Thank you, America, for making sure our media will be taking a coffee break for the next four years instead of holding our elected officials accountable (unless they’re Republicans, of course). Thank you for making sure we’ll never find out about how we lost a brave border agent who was shot by a gun from a government gun-running operation. Thank you for making sure we won’t find out about why our president lied about the circumstances surrounding the death of an ambassador. Thank you for seeing to it that we won’t find out that the government’s response to Sandy was worse than its response to Katrina. Thank you, America.

    Thank you, America, for making sure we’ll continue to have an education system that teaches children that you are bad while ignoring the genius of your Declaration of Independence and your Constitution; that teaches children about birth control and gender equality but steers clear of God; that teaches children to rely on the government for the things they need instead of on themselves. Thank you, America.

    Thank you, America, for ensuring that we will continue to run up huge deficits. Thank you for ensuring the continued abuse of the Fed, which will be free to print more money, eventually making it worth less than the paper it’s printed on. Thank you for piling that debt on my children, so they’ll have to work for your government and China’s, rather than for themselves and their families. Thank you, America.

    Thank you, America, for making sure our military strength will be greatly reduced, in men and in supplies and equipment. Thank you for cementing poor relationships with our allies while coddling our enemies. Thank you for ensuring Iran gets a nuclear weapon, which it will not be afraid to use, probably resulting in another deadly global conflict down the road. Thank you, America.

    Thank you, America, for ensuring that proposed regulations on oil drilling and coal mining will be implemented, which will cause gas and electricity prices to spike. Thank you for ensuring that we won’t be able to build new power plants and refineries. And thank you especially because these things will cause our everyday necessities, like food and transportation, to cost us more than ever before. Thank you, America.

    Thank you, America, for ensuring that our religious institutions will be dictated to by your government, that they will have to provide services such as contraception and abortion even though doing so defies their most basic beliefs. Thank you, America.

    Thank you, America, for making sure we will continue to further divide ourselves into groups and see ourselves only by our race, gender, age, sexual orientation and income, instead of seeing each other as Americans. Thank you, America.

    Thank you, America, for the judges who will soon be sitting behind the benches in our courts, who will render decisions based on ideological social beliefs while ignoring the Constitution they’ve sworn to uphold. Thank you, America.

    Yes, thank you, America, for all of these wonderful gifts you’ve given us by re-electing Barack Obama.

    Of course, if I was bitter, I would have used another word besides “thank” in front of “you.”

    • Jeff

      I hear they’re looking for people just like you in Rightwingloonistan. No one reasonable is permitted. For entry, you must pass an entrance exam dealing with the real Obama Agenda – World Tyranny or Personal Enrichment. I believe there are trick questions concerning the social good of Bain Capital’s closing down American factories. Clue: the correct answer always somehow involves Jesus.

    • Ted Quick

      I appreciate you sharing Jack Finn’s article. He says it about as clearly as it can be said. While those in the left will criticize anyone who dares to fool with their ideology, they will be blindsided when the inevitable happens while we on the right at least know what to expect. Of course it will be our fault (or Bush’s) that we hadn’t warned them, but I’ve developed pretty broad shoulders over the last 4 years so any criticism from them will run off like water in a warm shower. We have a better chance of winning the Powerball than we have of educating those on the left. In light of everything that has happened in the last four years the left’s continued intransigence is all the proof one needs that there is no common sense conversion possible. Ana, you, our fellow conservatives and I had better get back to work since the pool of takers will be escalating geometrically in the upcoming weeks and months.

      • Jeff

        It’s the right, not the left, that never learns. Tax cuts, tax cuts, and more tax cuts are your solution for every problem. The Clinton and Bush Administrations proved that your ideas about tax cuts creating economic vitality are nothing but baloney. But we’re still living with the stupid Bush Tax Cuts, and they’re continuing to harm the economy.

        The second part of the Republican trilogy is deregulation, particularly of the banks. We had roughly 55 years of no financial crises from FDR’s passage of the 1933 and 1934 Securities Acts (including Glass-Steagall) until the late 80s when the S&L scandal broke. S&Ls were not covered by banking regulations. Then in 1999, Glass-Steagall was repealed (yes, Bill Clinton was president but the prime forces behind it were 3 Republican Senators, chiefly Phil Gramm). Within 10 years, another major banking crisis.

        Now we have Dodd-Frank in place. Is it strong enough? Probably not, but what do the Republicans want to do? Repeal it and replace it with what exactly? Nothing, because that’s what could pass the Republican House.

        The third leg of the Republican trilogy? Pre-emptive war. These are the reasons Democrats are so elated Obama won. With a Republican House, it’s not that Obama can really do much. But the Republicans won’t be able to undo what he did in the first two years, and the Neocons will be out of power for at least another 4 years.

        • BR549

          Jeff wrote: “It’s the right, not the left, that never learns.”

          Really. Well, if that’s the case, those of us on the sidelines can have our laugh, while we watch those at the ends of this dysfunctional spectrum cast stones at each other like angry kids at the playground; angry because they each wanted a longer turn on the see-saw. If ever I read a juvenile statement about politics, THAT was it.

          BOTH the right AND the left are brain dead. Both believe their [expletive deleted] doesn’t stink. Meanwhile, while both you and your perceived ‘enemy’ are duking it out with each other, the globalists are hoping you’ll keep up the good fight, while they transform the very society you live within to the point that even the change-hungry liberals won’t be able to recognize anything. By that time, it’ll be too late, and their slope-headed UN soldiers (acting as a private army for the globalist bankers) would be all too willing to bash down your front door because you dared mention a Bill of Rights.

          No, but keep it up. You’re doing a great job of proving my point exactly.

          • Bert Cundle Sr.

            Who is the RIGHT & Who is the LEFT? Connection to government?

        • Ana

          I knew we were in trouble when during the second debate it became apparent that Obama didn’t understand simple economics. He couldn’t seem to grasp that if more people are working, more taxes are collected, which means more revenue is generated for the feds. Instead he kept maintaining the same tired screed that the rich don’t pay their fair share, which is just the same commie argument of the bourgeoisie against the proletariet repackaged for a modern audience.
          For the record, things were pretty good under George Bush up until 2007 when the Dems took over the House and Senate.
          At the time:
          The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
          The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
          The Unemployment rate was 4.6%
          George Bush’s Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB GROWTH
          What you fail to realize is the rich today don’t have to stick around to be slaughtered (literally) like they were in the past. They can pick up their chips and leave. There are Free Economic Zones all over the world that would be more than happy to have them relocate their businesses there. When they do that this country will be screwed.

          • Jeff

            But how many jobs were created – even before the Crash in ’08? Not many compared to the Clinton years of somewhat higher taxes. And it’s a myth that lowering tax rates increases revenues. It never works. And I think it’s presumptive of some blogger to think she is aware of some economic theory the President is unaware of. He simply disagrees and for good reason.

      • BR549

        Ted wrote:
        “We have a better chance of winning the Powerball than we have of educating those on the left.”

        THAT was PERFECT!

        As a side note, I’m just curious as to just when our parties developed these “attributes”. The British Tories became our conservative Federalists, while the Whigs became our more liberal Democratic-Republicans. The Federalist Party was short lived, the monikers shifted, and the main thing that has shifted since then appears to be how the parties advertise their ‘party persona’. BOTH parties are now secretly in lockstep with the banking industrialist globalists, while each pretends to represent a faded vestige of core values from the past.

        The Republicans, odd as it sounds used to represent the workers and farmers who had little sense of the workings away from the farm scene. They had “trusted” their representatives to politically negotiate in their stead, while the Democrats, at that time anyway, tended to be more educated on the issues and more willing to stay on top of their own destiny.

        Now look at what has happened; the Republican and Democrat Parties have kept BOTH their constituents in near total darkness about the REAL issues at hand and what is left is a population still clamoring for those values of days gone by. As they continue to obsess about all the things going wrong with their country, voters point to their fellow countrymen who’d voted for the other party, instead of recognizing that the new enemy is now, not in England, but in Washington, wearing $4,000 suits and being given their marching orders by secretive banking families.

        • Jeff

          “Now look at what has happened; the Republican and Democrat Parties have kept BOTH their constituents in near total darkness about the REAL issues at hand and what is left is a population still clamoring for those values of days gone by”

          I have read some variant of the above in dozens (hundreds?) of your posts and I still don’t WTF you’re talking about. Where’s the beef?

          • BR549

            Jeff wrote: “I have read some variant of the above in dozens (hundreds?) of your posts and I still don’t WTF you’re talking about. Where’s the beef?”

            You’ve asked politely, so I won’t resort to sarcasm and just assume you have a true willingness to learn more of the truth of what is happening to us.

            I had been a dyed in the wool Republican for 27 years, up until Bush41′s reign of terror. That was when I disaffiliated and went Independent. When Clinton came on the scene, he was lying just as much as Bush was (this was 1992). That was when I had no choice but to side with Perot. I was amazed that he was able to garner such a large percentage of the vote, but that was because of money. Having money and being patriotic, it seems, are not mutually exclusive; unlike what we have seen with every president since then.

            I can’t say if any light came on for me, rather it was a series of opportunities to view some news sources that the main stream would too easily dismiss as fringe. Somewhere in all that fringe was an element of truth, and over the last nine years, in particular, I’ve become much more able to filter out the garbage from those fringe articles and mix it into a useable formula. It seems, also, that a lot of other people have been doing the very same practice and it is AMAZING how close in ideologies we all are, whether we had come from formerly Republican or Democrat backgrounds. These petty, party, soap-box ideologies have taken up the minds of the “average” voter, to the point where they can’t see a fellow patriot standing next to them with an outstretched hand, and that is sad.

            ‘Divide and Conquer’ is what those in control of this mess have done; some of it acts of commission, others, acts of blatant omission; all to further their own personal war chests. The levels of corruption are staggering and it doesn’t favor any one party.

            About 30 years ago, I began re-reading US and German historical accounts and began asking some questions. They led to other questions and soon became apparent that all these wars weren’t about what we were being led to believe. Maybe I was a bit late in realizing this, because I am now discovering articles written during the Viet Nam period, but back then, no one was at all interested in any criticism of what would become known as globalism. Today, it’s almost a household word and the globalists have plastered it out there 24/7 so much that it is taken for granted that’s it’s a good thing. It isn’t.

            I suppose at some point in the evolution of the consciousness of man, he will come to realize that pooling collective energies for more heavenly goals would, out of necessity, require man to voluntarily (that’s a key word) lay down his arms. Put another way, if our world leaders ALL spent more time being transparent, hiding no secrets, and working actually FOR the people, I can see a time when people might have guns around as memorabilia only, like archaic historical artifacts such as Jefferson’s old signet ring or old Native American arrowheads found out in the back yard; useless by today’s standards, but a reminder of the way things were and where we had come from.

            I’ve listed a number of more recent information sources within these posts, as have other contributors. All I can say is that it depends how hungry anyone is for the truth and how much they’re willing to sift through the tomes of material to change their mindset.

            Jeff, please trust me on this, this is NOT about one party being any better than the other; the problem we ALL face is so much larger than that and there are also many other people here who would be more than willing to assist you in that journey. But you have to get out your shovel and start digging ……. and have some faith. Also have faith that there would be hard core Republicans also willing to challenge what they’ve been spoon-fed over the last few decades and who are more willing to learn the truth.

            There’s Anais Nin’s famous quote: “And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom.”

            We’re all in this together. Sorry if I’ve been too hard on you in earlier posts.

          • Bert Cundle Sr.

            CAREFULL… You know too much!

  • Bob

    Just what we really need a doomsdayr of oh well it really doesnt matter who we elect america is going down the toilet anyway. Some friggin american patriot you are lowlife

  • Bert Cundle Sr.

    If ya can’t unite the UNION… Devide The Union… And Rule your Share… NEW REPUBLICIAN WAY!!! Susceeding in Some States, Is UNION BUSTING!!! Some now are only reaching for the benifits of unity, with out complying! Told ya Romney was not a Statesman!

  • Ana

    Half the country already realizes Obama doesn’t like America and the Americans in it. The other half is going to wake up shocked one day to find out he dislikes them just a much.

    Does Obama Doom America?
    By Quin Hillyer on 11.14.12 @ 6:10AM
    The question so many people are asking.
    The refrain started many weeks, even months, before the election, but its frequency and intensity has increased nearly exponentially since Nov. 6.
    “I don’t know if we can survive another four years of this,” people say. Or, “do you think we can survive four more years of this?” Even Bill Kristol, not prone to defeatism, speculated on what might happen “even if America can survive the next four years of Obama.” [Emphasis added.] The words aren’t coming from alarmists. They come in face-to-face conversations, or in emails, or on the phone. They come from Washington, from New York, from New Jersey, from Minnesota, from Alabama, from New Orleans — from all over. Serious, ordinary people, some of whom live and breathe politics and some of whom pay almost no attention to current affairs, aren’t panicking or exaggerating. They are really worried about what this man in the White House will do now. And they’re really worried about whether America as we know it can survive.
    It is not an idle worry. Barack Obama and his minions play for keeps. And they are playing for a vastly different America than the one with which we have been accustomed for 224 years of this constitutional republic. Fight a war in Libya without even asking for a congressional resolution? No problem. Appoint executive officers without Senate approval, when the Senate is still in session? Sure. Issue executive orders directly contrary to law, on multiple occasions? Of course. Refuse to enforce duly constituted laws? Check. Repeatedly question the very legitimacy of the Supreme Court? Check. Refuse to honor congressional subpoenas and legitimate Freedom of Information requests? Ignore court orders (about offshore drilling) so flagrantly that you are found officially in contempt of court? Insult or even abandon allies? Whisper to foreign leaders of traditionally adversarial lands that you will have “more flexibility” after re-election? Deliberately cover up deadly mistakes on the Mexican border and in North Africa? Check, check, check, check, and check.
    This man runs a vote-fraud-enabling, military-vote-suppressing, domestic-energy-destroying, debt-exploding, credit-limit-undermining, defense-gutting, abusive-regulation-promulgating, power-centralizing, religious-liberty-attacking, crony-corporatism-expanding, Constitution-trampling administration. He politicizes everything and demeans politics and the presidency simultaneously. His opponent (according to his closest political associates) was a “felon.” The opponent was proximately responsible for a woman’s cancer death, deliberately outsourced jobs, and led a “war on women.” Women, meanwhile, should look to government for sustenance from cradle to grave, should vote as if giving up their virginity, and should “vote like [their] lady parts depend on it.” Attack, attack, attack; demean, demean, demean; trivialize, trivialize, trivialize; and never once outline a second-term agenda other than demonizing the wealthy and confiscating their wealth. This is a man using the presidency to serve his own power, no matter what the cost, rather than honoring the power of the presidency by the restraint inherent in treating the office as greater than the man who holds it.
    Obama discards promises with astonishing regularity, prevaricates about the past with impunity, uses race as a cudgel while claiming to unite us, taxes the middle class (e.g., on medical devices) while saying he would never do so, and guts welfare reform while claiming he’s strengthening it. His mentor was a Communist; his top aide’s in-laws and grandfather were major Communist activists; his chief political strategist worked for Communist-linked journalists; he started his political career with a fund-raiser at the house of domestic terrorists; he repeatedly and enthusiastically said the man who most deeply influenced his faith was a preacher in whose pews he sat for 20 years while the preacher spread racial hatred and anti-American venom (after which, according to the preacher himself, a close Obama associate offered to “buy” the preacher’s silence); he got a sweetheart deal on his mansion via a financial alliance with a crook named Rezko; and he himself wrote that he made a conscious decision while still a very young adult to embrace racial grievances and hang out with hard-left counter-culturists.
    Is there the slightest thing in that background to suggest that he loves the same America most Americans love?
    “Voting is the best revenge,” he said. How instructive. Revenge for what? Is it revenge against “bitter,” middle class Americans who “cling” to “guns and religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them”? Is that why we need to “spread the wealth”? Or why we must not reform America but “transform” it?
    And that’s just Obama’s person. His policies are worse. This nation absolutely cannot survive much more of his deliberately created debt. Our economy is being stifled by 68 regulations per day — 6,125 regulations or regulatory notices in just the 90 days leading up to Nov. 12. Our medical system cannot survive Obamacare — with doctors retiring at record rates, or refusing to accept Medicare or Medicaid patients, with premiums rising through the roof, with medical-device companies already cutting back on research and development, and with increasing numbers of companies dropping insurance coverage of their employees.
    And that’s not even to mention the horrifying dangers of a desperately weakened defense force, a refusal to call terrorism by its name or fight it accordingly, and a betrayal of allies combined with kowtowing to powers antagonistic to everything about the American nation.
    Can we survive all this? Well, as Ronald Reagan would say, weare, after all, Americans. We are a rather hearty people, and an inherently decent people too. But never, ever, not even under Jimmy Carter, were we led by a president who thinks the United States has been anything but an overwhelming force for good in the world. Until now. And that should frighten us.
    In my first post-election column four years ago, I warned that Obama’s Alinskyites would first find a way to steal a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate (check), eventually try to undermine the filibuster entirely (check), liberalize laws and practices against vote fraud (check), abuse the power of the Justice Department (check), tilt the playing field in favor of unions, use regulations like a cudgel, inspire radical “street demonstrations” (check-check-check), and incrementally but steadily erode our civil rights (HHS mandate, anyone?).
    All of that is child’s play compared to what Obama can do now that he no longer faces re-election, now that he can appoint more and more judges to rubber-stamp his abuses, now that he can issue more executive orders and administrative fiats, now that he can use the full and awesome power of the federal behemoth he has so assiduously expanded in size, scope, and authority. Unless we watch out, one fears, columns such as this one will be described as seditious, and our speech rights will be as threatened as the religious liberties of Catholic charities and Baptist hospitals already are.
    These things can happen, though, only if we don’t fight back. If this be sedition (which it isn’t), let the Obamites make the most of it. At some point the sleeping American public will rouse itself and insist that we are indeed Americans, and we are better and freer and stronger than the Eric Holders of the world think we are. The Obamites will not succeed. We will not let them.
    http://spectator.org/archives/2012/11/14/does-obama-doom-america

    • BR549

      Ana wrote: “The Obamites will not succeed. We will not let them.”

      Ana, at least that lengthy and well written article goes to show that it isn’t just a few of us here that have a handle on what’s really happening.

      Look at the number of political talk shows that are now discussing REAL Constitutional issues instead of the diaper fodder politics of just ten years ago. NatGeo, Discovery, Tru TV, and the History Channel all airing Prepper-style TV shows, Guns and ammunition sales are off the charts, the number of Doomsday and Apocalypse films are coming out one after another, along with this twisted interest in vampires and zombies. Fox and CNN have even broaching serious issues with respect to violations of the Constituition, but are light years behind Russia Today (I know, go figure). The tabloidesque topics of Jesse Ventura’s show Conspiracy Theories, I believe, was intentionally formatted to address the working class, who might have less occasion to frequent that information on their own. Whatever the case, it looks like he has been pretty much on target with all this, even though many of the voters are now becoming hungry for far deeper content.

      The elites have spent, quite literally, a thousand years in learning how to control the masses so they can stay in charge. It has nothing to do with managerial skills, but sheer brute force, and while the rest of mankind is making some attempt to evolve domestically and spiritually, these hemophiliac throwbacks from an ancient time continue to equip themselves to live in luxury, occasionally tossing some peasant over one of the turret walls to remind the peasants who is in charge and to not dare question authority.

      As the level of awareness increases worldwide (except for the mindless Obamaoids and those bible-thumping grain-belt Bush supporters), people are getting wise to all this and they wish to be a part of real change; and not this communistic, masses controlling, Hope and Change crap which was a part of the UN’s Agenda21 takeover plan all along.

      Whether people are picking up on all this consciously or unconsciously on the collective, the fact remains that people, those who are paying attention, anyway, realize that something big is on the horizon beside a false hyper-awareness being generated by over exuberant Hollywood scriptwriters.

      The Obama people, as well as those who thought Romney was going to do any different, are clinging to ideals of the past that have no hope of fruition simply because of corruption. All 50 states have petitions to secede, now, and yet no one wishes to secede; they just want the corruption out of government. Yet as long as each politician keeps pointing the finger elsewhere and assuming they’ve been doing a great job, the secessions will continue to gain support. Of course, this is what Obama was planning on; getting a gullible population poised for that unique moment in US history when the legislature could legally suspend the Constitution for what IT perceived to be “the will of the people”. Then, it would be a free lunch for the UN and all their paid mercenaries.

      As author and four administration presidential advisor, Dr. Steve Pieczenik, referred to the other day, our upcoming threat will not be coming from Al Qaeda, Iran, North Korea, Russia, or even China; it will be from mercenaries working for the New World Order.

      Here’s a guy who has been plugged into the system since Viet Nam, who has been a Senior Policy Advisor, along with Chalotte Iserbyt and Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, and all of them are pointing out the direction we are being taken in towards a UN takeover. Meanwhile, Obamanoids are fighting to understand the world around them and are angrily resistant to the truth.

      • Ted Quick

        First off, I enjoy your writing, both what you say and how you say it. It is a pleasure to read a well-thought out piece that shows a depth of understanding. But then, of course I agree with your points. What you and Jack Finn (the article presented by Ana — thank you for that, Ana) have to say suggests that there are probably more than a few of us who see what’s being perpetrated against us. While most of what I write about is the right vs the left, you are absolutely correct in suggesting that there is little difference between them and that there are forces outside of those extremes who are more powerful and more dangerous. Forces who are making indelible headway towards accomplishing their end. Their level of subtly and stealth prevent them from being seen except by the most astute. While I don’t understand everything at work here, Agenda 21 and the likes of it are moving things beyond that which is readily seen. The question is, what are the answers? As for you, keep it up.

        • BR549

          Ted wrote: “Forces who are making indelible headway towards accomplishing their end.”

          I had been listening to Alex Jones for many years on his show at:
          http://www.prisonplanet.com/
          The problem was that, while very passionate about what he does, in the past he would break away from his normal broadcast delivery and start in with this “foaming at the mouth” routine, ranting like their was no tomorrow. Well, the reality was that while Alex was pointing out all these connections, Glen Beck, Rush, Hannity, Shepard Smith, et al, were all completely dismissing what he had to say and they’d start making tin-foil hat jokes. Now, these guys are all doing the backstroke trying to catch up with Alex. Beck, it’s of no surprise, has been gradually increasing his plagiarism of Alex’ material, often pulling direct quotes out. If you get this post in time, make an effort to listen to Alex’ show from yesterday. The show cycles over and over until his next late morning broadcast.

          To be accurate, Alex wasn’t the only one attempting to bring this information to light; there was David Icke, Mike Savage, Drudge Report, along with a hundred other sites, each one adding more of what they’d uncovered. There were a ever-growing list of truly patriotic former government officials like Dr. Paul Craig Roberts (former Asst. Sec. of the Treasury under Reagan), Catherine Austin-Fitts (former Commissioner for HUD), Dr. Steve Pieczenik (former Dept of State official under four presidents, I believe). All of these people along with many many others have been regular guests on Alex’s show.

          Alex has cleaned up his act A LOT. He’s added more reporters and commentators and he’s doing a great job. You can get a mountain of information off that site, but remember, journalism today is not what we had come to rely on with Cronkite, so there will always be a few seemingly tabloidesque articles in there that you put off into the corner for the time being. But to be sure, there is NO more flag waving stalwarts like our perception of Cronkite, even though we’re now coming to understand that Cronkite was just funneling the government approved pablum about the wars. It’s what they all had to do to get along back then.

          I have also recently discovered Clyde Lewis’ show (7pm-12am, M-F). He’s on “The Voice of Maine” up here and affiliates across the country. The show is called “Ground Zero”. While he needs a refresher course on the 9/11 WTC thing, his approach to other issues is truly remarkable.

          You had stated, ” While I don’t understand everything at work here, Agenda 21 and the likes of it are moving things beyond that which is readily seen.” So true, my friend, and that is their intention. Even Bilderberg member Donald Graham (owner of the Washington Post) received special acknowledgment from his Bilderberg cronies from his tireless efforts at helping to keep the existence of the group suppressed from the public eye.

          The good thing is that Alex is bringing up the issue about secession and what it really means, and as I have stated, I don’t believe anyone wants to secede from the Union, rather, they want to secede from the globalist corruption that has stolen our legislature of weak-minded and self-serving politicians. The feds will more than likely try to turn all this around and brand all the secessionists as terrorists, but that’s only to deflect the heat off the fact that our government has become so dysfunctional.

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