Do Not Buy The Obama iPhone 5nSa


Since I’ve upgraded to the new Samsung Galaxy S4, I have never understood why anyone would want an iPhone, but that is beside the point. And I do realize many people are Apple fanatics. But here is a very urgent warning about why you should not buy the iPhone 5S or even upgrade to iOS 7.

I have been shocked that people are waiting in line for what is essentially barely an upgrade with no major benefits. The biggest change is cosmetic; instead of white, it is now the color gold. That brings to mind the disconnect most modern minds have between the color gold and the real thing. Today, Olympic gold medals have almost no gold in them and people proudly show off their “gold” credit cards as a prestige symbol when all it is is a fiat currency debt card colored gold.

Of course, most of those waiting in line are actually homeless people who were paid by someone to stand in line. But it is still strange to see.

An excellent video of the actual prospective purchasers (as far as we can tell) waiting in line for days or weeks for this new phone can be seen here, including a man sleeping with his head in a plastic bag.

It does smell mostly of marketing (possibly even paid for in part by Apple and the U.S. government), as many of the people waiting in line are the aforementioned homeless people being paid to wait in line — along with a smattering of apparently insane people.

That Apple and the U.S. government are in cahoots has already been proven by Edward Snowden and the proof has been published in The Guardian:

The first — and best known — is Prism, a system allowing the NSA easy access to the personal information of non-US persons from the databases of some of the world’s biggest tech companies, including Apple, Google, Microsoft and Yahoo. Later, it emerged Microsoft had worked to circumvent its own encryption to enable NSA access to customer records.

So it is not out of the realm of possibilities that this is a National Security Agency-sponsored event.

There are only two other changes that I can see in the iPhone 5S, aside from the new gold color. This version has a faster processor and it has a fingerprint scanner that can and most likely will send your details directly to the NSA, CIA and U.S. government.

A faster processor is always nice, but that’s literally the only real improvement. The scanner that’s being touted as an improvement is actually just a way for a crony corporatist organization to pass along your online activities and whereabouts to a fascistic government. You have to love these slaves, lining up to be fingerprinted.

The best video we’ve seen on the new iPhone 5N(S)A is here:

And then we saw this. Outside of many Apple stores, New York’s best and finest (ahem), the New York Police Department, were handing out this flyer.


We hope this is not real, but the fact that “avaialble” was misspelled does seem to add credence to it being real — especially with U.S. police departments actually having a policy of hiring people with low IQs.

The Top Information Post reports that numerous people have received this brochure from NYPD.


If it is true, it is amazing that the new iPhone, which for all intents and purposes just takes your fingerprints and uploads them to government databases, has the New York police handing out brochures saying to upgrade to iOS 7.

If you ever needed a wake-up call to the fasco-communist police state of America, this should be one. If you insist on sticking around within U.S. borders as the surveillance state puts on the finishing touches, then at least arm yourselves with the actionable advice to help you cope with it and live as free as possible by signing up for TDV Homegrown. Click here to learn more about that.

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  • MexicansaysLibtardsRpukes

    I don’t Like CrApple! I like my Galaxy Note 2, Unlocked, Unbranded -(No At&t/T-Mobile logo That comes with Bloat ware garbage)

    • VulpineMac

      Obviously it’s branded… By Samsung
      Just as the iPhone is branded by Apple–and nobody else.

      • MexicansaysLibtardsRpukes

        Im talking about Branded logo that has At&t/T-Mobile logo! Not the phone it’s self that has company logo! Samung, CrApple, HTC, ect

        • VulpineMac

          Better look again. Many of those Android phones have the carrier’s brand on them, not the manufacturer’s.

          • MexicansaysLibtardsRpukes

            You Look again! Other Counties cell phones have no logo of cell carriers! US have no freedom of choice to buy Unlocked phones Unbranded The Key Word {No Cell carrier logo} Mine has no logo I got mine overseas!

          • VulpineMac

            Again false, as we do have freedom of choice and yes, we CAN buy phones unlocked–even iPhones. Most people choose not to because the up-front price of most better models is high and they are easier to pay for on a contract basis. From there it’s a personal choice as to which carrier to use. Not everybody is willing to pay $500-$600 or even more for a phone by itself, but they are willing to pay $80-$120 per month when it includes the phone and a given level of service.

          • MexicansaysLibtardsRpukes

            Again you are wrong! Why is there no other Unlock Unbranded phones-No T-mobile/Att&t logo! in US market? There is no freedom of choice The cell providers is holding consumers hostage. You are paying more on contract phone versus buying phones unlocked! Even C-net had the comparison contract phones will cost more than buying unlocked phone with no bloat ware crap! Now there is few cell makers are coming out of the closet to sell phones Unlocked to US market even the cell providers dont like it! True CrApple is doing it, Sony is doing it. I believe HTC is doing it, only on some models to test the waters. There is lot more people rather buy phones unlocked rather than being stuck on contract and forced to take a plan that cost more rather than pick your own plan!

          • VulpineMac

            I’ve said it twice, I’ll say it again: It is very possible to buy non-contract phones from most manufacturers, whether they be Apple, Samsung, HTC or whomever. That refutes your consistent argument.

            However, it is much EASIER to buy on contract because the individual does not have to pay $400, $500, $600 or more up front and can spread the cost of the purchase itself out over two years (the typical contract length).

            There is plenty of freedom of choice. In the U.S. the iPhone is available for use on all networks (except maybe Blackberry’s). Most other phones are available for use on all networks–including T-mobile, AT&T, Verizon, Sprint.

            The point is that what you say is NOT available, IS. People may WANT to buy unlocked, but unless they can afford the relatively high purchase price of the device itself, most choose the contract route simply because it’s cheaper in the short run.

  • Seeker1212

    If you’re smart, you’ll dig around in the junk drawer and fish out your old phone, it might not have all the bells and whistles and features of your new phone, but it won’t tell the government where you are and where you were and who you’ve been talking to.

    • Chester

      Actually, all that information is available from ANY cell phone. All they have to do is pull phone company records. Seems they even can track to which two or three cell towers had you in sight, then do a bit of triangulating to determine exactly where you were.

      • Michael J Carter

        and can any of you actually tell me you have never been fingerprinted in all your life? They had all this info for a long time on you, it’s nothing new. The only thing is the finger print tech has been tried and didn’t work as it’s easy to break….just as it suppose all ready has been cracked and broken into…

        • VulpineMac

          Take a look at how it was supposedly ‘cracked’. It required physical access to the device itself, the users’s own fingerprints and tools not necessarily available in the average home. It wasn’t a ‘crack’, merely a very targeted attempt to spoof the owner–who, by the way, was the one who performed the stunt.

      • independent thinker

        When done properly they have to get a warrant, pull the records, go though the records, find which towers you pinged off, do the triangulation and determine where you WERE when you made a call. All of that takes time perhaps not a lot but time nonetheless. It tells them where you were not where you are unless you are one of those who live with a phone glued to your ear and in use almost constantly.

  • Doug

    Operation ID is available for your Android phone as well, as is phone tracking and recovery services. Note that Google is also mentioned in the PRISM article above. Android is developed by Google. NSA was pushing Android use before Apple because Android can be secured as SE-Linux. Finally, your old phone’s voice security has been cracked long ago, and although it may not have GPS, they can still track you via the cell towers you use. If you’re on the grid – you’re on the grid.

    • PoliTecs

      Exactly. And, google helped the NSA with building their backbone network, their back door to the data mining. Just read the evidentiary article on this with actual cited facts a few weeks ago.

      The only big data company right now that is publically fighting the government for disclosure is Microsoft. Been in this industry for more than 20 years, I have always found Microsoft more aligned to the OpenSource (Linux) anti government crowd than any other company. And my point bears itself out, Microsoft just yesterday released the numbers of NSA search requests and is leading the charge in court for more disclosure.

  • Daniel F. Melton

    I’ll give one thing to the “newer, better, faster, more bells and whistles” crowd. It makes the tried and proven technological survivors (used to those who can’t understand) much cheaper. The failures have already been long ago relegated to the scrap heap.

  • PoliTecs

    While I am sure the NSA is all over this technology, I must ask, were you drunk or high when you wrote this!? This is the kind of writing that the left makes parodies with on SNL! You make conservatives look like John (umpa-lumpa) Boehner look like a REAL Conservative!

    A bunch of open-ended non-conclusions and evidence is an un-verified paper from the NYPD!? Come on… this isn’t reporting, this is complete shooting off the hip!

    Do some homework and learn WHAT the NSA is actually doing. Your section on: “The first — and best known — is Prism…” quote is old data. t has been verified that the accusation on ‘back-doors’ for Microsoft’s BitLocker technology has been written and publicly refuted by the very engineer(s) that created it. I am NOT absolving MS in total but with generalizations like this from out of date re-tread data makes you just as culpable as the NSA with disinformation and propaganda!
    If we are going to win this fight for individual freedom, THIS IS NOT going to help us get there!

  • D.

    Amusing. About the only word I can come up with to describe the article. I guess what most people with this mind set possess the inability to realize that we as a society have brought it on ourselves.

    You may say this level of scrutiny wasn’t needed a year ago, five years ago, a decade ago, but au contraire, it’s been there all along. Think about it. We as a society have had to have the latest and the greatest. The most convenient. The easiest, the thing that means we expend less effort to do just about ANYTHING that we do.

    You used to go to the library to look something up. Now what do you do?
    You used to pick up a pen and paper to write a letter. Now what do you do?
    Call a friend?
    Leave a note?
    Plan a route?

    It’s not the technology that is to blame. It’s the human factor that desires the path of least resistance to obtain the desired end result. Our “need” for fast, instant results has led to the creation of the technology, that in the end, can so easily be exploited and utilized in ways that were only part of sci-fi just a few short decades ago.

    Do not blame this on the tech companies. Do not blame this on the gov. Blame this on society’s desire to be entitled to information in a fast, quick, and now, most of the time effortless method.

    The ecosystem that allows this was only created because it was demanded by the end user.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      All this verbiage just to say that you believe we apparently got the government we deserve.

  • VulpineMac

    Sheesh! Talk about conspiracy theories! First off, this is little more than an anti-Apple rant. This also tries to express opinion as “established fact” with nothing to go on, especially since the fingerprint sensor argument was debunked days ago. Meanwhile, iOS 7 itself DOES improve the security of the device as it makes a stolen phone much more difficult to wipe and re-sell which in turn makes it less likely to get stolen in the long run.

    Finally, you need to understand the definition of Fascist, or rather, Fascism.
    “fascism (ˈfæʃɪzəm) — n
    1.any ideology or movement inspired by Italian Fascism, such as German National Socialism; any right-wing nationalist ideology or movement with an authoritarian and hierarchical structure that isfundamentally opposed to democracy and liberalism
    2.any ideology, movement, programme, tendency, etc, that may be characterized as right-wing,chauvinist, authoritarian, etc.”

    That’s right, Fascism is extremist Conservatism. How, then, can what the author is talking about be considered Fascism?

    • chocopot

      Another misinformed fool. Fascism is and has always been a left-wing ideology.

      • VulpineMac

        Then what is Socialism?

        I think you need to do some studying. They can’t BOTH be left-wing, after all. Everybody knows Republicans are “right wing” and oppose all forms of liberalism.

        That definition, by the way, is from the World Dictionary.

        Now, WHO is misinformed?

        • chocopot

          Try reading all of that. What is socialism? It is communism-lite. Try to keep in mind that the term “liberalism” as used today is surely not what we know as traditional liberalism. This is from the Concise Encyclopedia for “liberalism”: “Political and economic doctrine that emphasizes the rights and freedoms of the individual and the need to limit the powers of government.” No sane person would even attempt to suggest that the Left today, the Democrats, the so-called Progressives (the misnomer of all time), believe in individual rights and freedoms and limiting the powers of government. What is happening today in the West, and especially in this country, is a rapid takeover of the private sector, one big chunk at a time, by a central government hell-bent on the total control of every aspect of life in this country. That is not liberalism, democracy, freedom, or individualism, that is fascism on its way to eventual communism. The differences between Stalin (communist) and Hitler (fascist) were far fewer than their similarities. It is you, not I, who need to study some history; I have been doing it for 50+ years now, and what I see happening in this country is very scary. If you value your freedom (or what’s left of it), you had better open your eyes.

          • VulpineMac

            “Try to keep in mind that the term ‘liberalism’ as used today is surely not what we know as traditional liberalism” Your opinion; not necessarily fact.

            “No sane person would even attempt to suggest that the Left today, the Democrats, …, believe in individual rights and freedoms…” And exactly who is trying to destroy individual rights and freedoms? Who is doing everything they can to destroy Women’s rights? Who is trying to destroy our freedom OF religion–the right to worship whom and how we please? Who is trying to destroy how we live our personal lives? Certainly NOT the Democrats.

            You claim to have been “studying” history for 50-some years. I’ve been living it longer than that. Maybe you need to pull your head out of those biased books of yours and look at the REAL world.
            By the way. It appears you didn’t read all of that definition of Fascism even on your own link:
            “Full Definition of FASCISM

            often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.”
            Isn’t that EXACTLY what the Tea Party is trying to do?

          • chocopot

            You are a lost cause: brainwashed and indoctrinated. Go back to worshipping your hero Obozo.

          • VulpineMac

            So because you can’t refute my argument, you make a straw man attack on me without knowing anything about me. While I know you won’t believe me, I am a registered Republican and that CAN be verified. What I don’t have is any political “heroes” because almost all politicians are self-centered fools whose intent is only to enrich themselves at the cost of their constituents. There are a few who at least try to represent the people who voted them in, but they are almost invariably shouted down and smothered by the rest of their party–both parties.

            NO politician should be a career politician. No more than two terms should be permitted in any given political office.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            You can be a registered Republican because the Republican party has done a shift to accommodate the culture. For all intents and purposes you might admit to calling yourself what I call you, a Dem/Prog/Leftist because of your objection to the article and comments of the Conservatives and Libertarians on site. You gave yourself away and yes the Conservatives and Libertarians are still Individualists even though their attitudes and values and words and message are identical.

          • VulpineMac

            I get the idea that I have been a Republican longer than you have been alive. I’ve seen the changes. I’ve lived through the changes. Some are good, some are bad. I would prefer to resist some of the Changes that the current group that calls themselves “Republicans” want to make because they are blatantly Anti-Individualist.

          • vicki

            He may not be a lost cause but we do need to get him to look at a dictionary :)

          • The Conservative Atheist

            The problem is that after a certain point, it doesn’t matter which extreme you do. It’s all about control. It’s not about conservative vs liberal. It’s not about democrat vs republican. It’s about freedom vs tyranny.

          • vicki

            This video shows that rather well

          • Nadzieja Batki

            NO, because the Tea Party is still made up of Individualists even though they come together to form a group cohesion for a purpose. Once the meetings are over they go home and resume their Individual state of being.
            Dems/Progs/Leftists/Fascists form a Collective “mind” and look to leadership to take care of them. Being Individualist scares them because it forces one to take the bad as well as the good of life and that is too much uncertainty to carry.

          • VulpineMac

            Wrong! Fascism does not form a “collective mind”, it is patently dictatorial and has been since the term was coined back in 1932 or so. Mussolini was Fascist. Hitler was Fascist. Saddam Hussein was Fascist. They all concerned themselves with making everybody do what that ‘leader’ wanted with no concept that there could ever be some other way to live. The Tea Party is out to kill Democracy at any cost, though that is NOT where they started. The Tea Party is blatantly saying “It will be OUR way or NO way.” That is not democracy.

            Our government was set up with checks and balances designed to prevent any one group from gaining too much power and give the People some say in how this country is organized; it is a Republic. The primary intent of such a system is to find compromises between extremes–and now neither extreme is willing to compromise. If even one side gives in a little, the media calls it “caving in to the ___ (other party)”

            We are destroying ourselves because we are literally tearing this country apart. Any tear in the fabric of this nation could be the trigger that lets some other group destroy what we have spent more than 225 years to build. Your own argument proves it.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          What do you think Socialism is? You are almost living in its clutches and yet you do not see it. Perfectly nice and polite and smiley people practice it and approve it and even religious denominations approve and practice it and even the new Pope is as Socialist/Marxist as is possible to be. Europe, South America, Africa, the ME, the islands of the Pacific have been living under it. America is not there completely because it still has people of the Protestant belief system and Individualists but give it another twenty years plus/minus a couple it will catch up with the rest of the world.

          • VulpineMac

            While trying to criticize my comment, you simply emphasize the fact that what we have is NOT a fascist government as described by the author, though we are still far from Communist

          • Nadzieja Batki

            So what is your complaint? You have reading comprehension problems only you can solve for yourself.
            Academic definitions of Socialism/Communism/Fascism are not equal to the reality and the damage these ideologies cause. Would you like the definitions better if we called the people who espouse these ideologies Liars, Thieves, Coveters, Murderers, Lazy, Malevolent, Evil, etc.,etc..

          • VulpineMac

            It seems you are the one with reading comprehension problems, as you continue to try and equate Fascism with Communism with Socialism. They. Are. Not. The. Same.

          • vicki

            They may not be the same in your eyes but they bear ONE CRITICAL trait.

          • VulpineMac

            Sorry, biased source. Show me a NON-biased source.

          • vicki

            Ad hominem against the source.


            No such thing as a NON-Biased source anyway. None the less the narrator presented a clear and concise argument to support the position.

        • vicki

          VulpineMac askes:

          Then what is Socialism?

          so·cial·ism noun ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm :
          a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

          • VulpineMac

            I might remind you that the bail-outs of GM and Chrysler in ’08 were launched by a Republican president, not the current Democratic one. In both cases, our Federal government has managed to divest itself of the majority of both those companies.

          • vicki

            You are new here based on your name so I will caution you that conservatives here have no love for a president based on the label he has after his name.

          • VulpineMac

            Currently I have no love for any politician, no matter what party he or she may belong to. I have been monitoring these boards for months and normally choose not to comment. However, I will speak up when I see speculation and outright lies being presented as truth.

          • vicki

            Be welcome but come with facts to backup your assertions. Facts (like the proper definition of Fascism) require links to substantiate the assertions of fact if you want to have any credibility that is.

          • VulpineMac

            Ok then. Show the the FACTS that Apple is working hand-in-hand with the NSA while also proving that no previous fingerprint-sensored digital device was not–or vice versa.

            My whole argument in this thread are the statements that our current government is Fascist and that Apple is working hand-in-hand with that government. Neither of of these statements is true. They are both speculation at best (or worst if you choose to think that way.)

          • Ron r

            You will never convince a regressive that fascism is a reich wing thing.

          • vicki

            Take that up with the authors. I am not the one that made the claim.

          • VulpineMac

            They why are YOU the one arguing the points?

    • vicki

      Umm.. and where did you get the wrong definition of fascism?

      Here is the correct definition (with supporting evidence)
      “: a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a
      dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not
      allowed to disagree with the government”

      1. often Fascism a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of
      belligerent nationalism and racism.

      b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.

      2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.

      You should probably watch this video which explains why left vs right is not the correct axis to discuss government tyranny.

      The axis that we care about is the amount of government.

      Btw since Conservatives want smaller government it can not be possible for extreme conservatism to be = to fascism.

      • VulpineMac

        Why did you leave out the term “right wing” that is clearly in the definition (linked to merriam-webster dot com) below?

        Do we have too much government? In some areas, yes. In other areas, no. What we have is a government fighting itself, filled with way too much duplication of effort because of so many who don’t even know what is already extant within our government. Our government needs to be consolidated, which would have the effect of removing waste. Limiting government for the sake of limiting government destroys the good as well as the bad. The middle ground MUST be found where both sides get what they need without pandering to any special interests–of any kind.

        • vicki

          VulpineMac writes:

          Why did you leave out the term “right wing” that is clearly in the definition (linked to merriam-webster dot com) below?

          I didn’t. I presented a direct copy from 2 websites. I also provided you with a link to a video showing that left vs right is NOT the valid paradigm when discussing excessive government. Here it is again so you don’t have to search for it.

          • VulpineMac

            World English Dictionaryfascism (ˈfæʃɪzəm) — n
            1. any ideology or movement inspired by Italian Fascism, such as German National Socialism; any right-wing nationalist ideology or movement with an authoritarian and hierarchical structure that isfundamentally opposed to democracy and liberalism
            2. any ideology, movement, programme, tendency, etc, that may be characterized as right-wing,chauvinist, authoritarian, etc

          • VulpineMac

            The key word here is “Extremes”.

          • vicki

            VulpineMac writes:

            The key word here is “Extremes”.

            See the video.

          • VulpineMac

            As I said before, I did see the video and I simply don’t believe what it says. It is totally biased towards a single viewpoint very clearly ignoring or disputing established facts.

          • vicki

            Very good. (I did find a British dictionary that used your definition

            That blue thing there is called a link. It is what you should have provided to your assertion that something called a
            “World English Dictionary” had the definition you provided.

            Now you can focus on the real problem. Definitions. It is really hard to communicate with words if you change the definitions. I suggest that you might consider using the Websters dictionary to provide consistency in discussions for the USA.

            You will also notice (if you bothered to watch the video) that the left vs right paradigm (from France as you may have noted) is still not a good paradigm to analyze governments.

            The best paradigm I have found is in this video which I encourage everyone to watch.

            The paradigm is 100% vs limited vs 0% government.

          • VulpineMac

            So what you’re saying is that you are an Anarchist–that you want no government at all, is that correct? That would be worse even than the old, famous, Wild West. Nobody would be safe from anybody. No laws. No order. No education and No jobs. We were actually headed in that direction before the current administration took office.

          • vicki

            VulpeneMac writes:
            “So what you’re saying is that you are an Anarchist–that you want no government at all, is that correct?”


            Watch the Video. If that is what you get from it than you have my sympathies.

          • vicki

            We might think of them like a circle. Where they meet they are the same (100% government control) regardless of the supposed cause.

          • vicki

            Agreed which is why we must focus on the

            100% vs limited vs 0% spectrum instead of the left vs right spectrum. The left vs right one was obviously created to divide people so they would fight amongst themselves instead of uniting against the common enemy of a free people. That enemy being unlimited government.

            See this video for a good description of the problem and the solution given to us by our founders.

      • VulpineMac

        I watched enough to realize that it was anything BUT unbiased and only proved that some people will believe anything they are told, even when history has already proven those statements wrong in some cases.

        I don’t watch political programming of any kind due to the fact that they only give you one side of the topic. I do read political newsletters so I know what each side is saying and base my own opinions on the truth–on verifiable facts rather than mere hearsay and opinionated viewpoints. Too often topics and statements are taken out of context–intentionally isolated to completely change the meaning of the original statement. This is done by both sides against the other. I vote based on the measure of truth vs untruth stated by a given candidate.

        But I DO vote–unlike the vast majority of people who continue to feel like their one vote can’t affect the outcome. If we ever, EVER had a 100% turnout at the polls, our politicians would be absolutely shocked. Here in the US we rarely see more than 40% of the people vote at Presidential elections and sometimes as low as 5% and even lower at State and Local elections.

    • disqus_Y38bxN0VuX

      Where did you get this definition. Fascism has nothing to do with being conservative…Somebody with a half a brain must have made this up

  • dan

    Just load up the bus to the FEMA Camp….
    going ghost (goin’ fishin’) is one of the few pleasures allowed ‘married’ men…
    ah , privacy (wink-wink)

  • REK

    if they put this much effort into keeping illegal drugs,off the streets this would be a better county

    • Nadzieja Batki

      That is a personal moral failure of each drug user and seller and no government can contain such a beast.

    • vicki

      For a TRULY free society it can not be possible for possession of anything grown, made, bought or squired without force or fraud to be illegal

    • john396

      Only one problem with banning something….IT DON’T WORK!!!

      Didn’t work with alcohol, doesn’t work with drugs, won’t work with guns….or anything else….

      Need to legalize all the drugs and REGULATE them, get the freaks off the worst of them, so they aren’t out killing innocent people in a drug fueled frenzy.

      But someone will say drugs destroy lives & families….(forgetting that prison sentences do the same thing).

  • FreeIsNotFree

    The accusations laid out here ALL SMARTPHONES are guilty of. Recommending Google Android instead is like recommending soy burgers instead of McDonald’s silicone burgers (both are bad). The only answer is to go to 7-11 burn phones no one knows of except close liberty conspirators. All smartphones will carry the 5S’s features in the future. Let’s not single out Apple for something everyone is guilty of.

  • FreeIsNotFree

    Google IS the NSA.

  • FreeIsNotFree

    A liberty-minded website requiring traceable registration to post is LAME.

  • Jon Blackburn

    Every cell phone has a listening device that can be turned on by any
    government even when the phone is off. Every cell phone can be tracked.
    It’s been this way since the car phone. What amazes me is that it’s just
    now coming across as a revelation.

  • whocares

    Here is an idea. Worried about the government listening to your boring life? DON’T GET A CELL PHONE…

  • john396

    I have a concealed carry license, so they already have my prints….
    But he is right, the 5S seems to be no big upgrade, and I looked at the Samsung, and it looks pretty slick. (Just need to read some reviews & see just how they are once ya had them for a while.)

  • VulpineMac

    So while you are disagreeing with me, you’re agreeing. Please note that you said, “the people should be educated enough and active in the process to hold politicians accountable.” The problem is, they don’t. They hear promises, they hear spin, and they believe it, even when the things they are told BY these politicians are patently an inarguably false.

    Term limits ensure that no individual gets too much power and no payer will be able to afford paying off a new Senator, Representative, Governor or whatever every four to eight years. It makes things more difficult for those trying to buy legislation because they simply don’t know how a given freshman will react to the attempt. It will also force the legislation process to run much faster as delaying a vote for a couple years on the hope that you’ll get more backers could break that legislation permanently as the backers could be replaced by then.

  • ibn insha

    Corporations gather this information to paddle products to you. It is in their best interest for you to be free and buying their products. They cannot arrest you. Government can.

  • vicki

    “The countries that come closest to what you are talking about is Castro’s Cuba, Saudi Arabia etc…”

    Is that really what you get from the video?

  • Robert Messmer

    Dave Just what is it that we don’t have here and Obama doesn’t want? Sure don’t have a Republic anymore with the government breaking and ignoring laws on a daily basis. We may not have made it (yet) to a full fledged Democracy but we are being pushed there rather quickly by the current administration.

  • Shorty Stuff

    Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t watching you.

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    Shill Dave gives his usual “Don’t worry, be Happy” comment. His bosses must reward him well.