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Colorado Democrats Turn Backs On Homegrown Industry, 2nd Amendment With Gun Proposal

February 20, 2013 by  

Colorado Democrats Turn Backs On Homegrown Industry, 2nd Amendment With Gun Proposal
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The mindless trudge toward neutering the Wild West — and the rest of the Nation with it — slogs on this month in Colorado, a State where recent, highly publicized moments of cultural failings that involved firearms has swept from public consciousness the deeper history of civil gun ownership the State has long enjoyed.

If Democrats in the State Legislature aren’t careful, they’ll do more than hobble residents’ 2nd Amendment powers. They may send a good corporate citizen packing (its bags).

Magpul, an Erie-based maker of high-capacity magazines, will be compelled to move its operations out of Colorado if Democrat-sponsored House Bill 1224 passes in this year’s State legislative session. The bill aims to outlaw licensed gun owners from keeping or using ammunition magazines that hold 15 or more rounds — something that’s always been perfectly legal.

Started in 1999 — yes, the same year as Columbine — by a former Marine Corps sergeant, Magpul’s corporate leadership is unequivocal about how the company would respond if the bill goes through.

“We will leave if it passes,” COO Doug Smith said in a Denver Post article last week.

“If we’re able to stay in Colorado and manufacture a product, but law-abiding citizens of the state were unable to purchase the product, customers around the state and the nation would boycott us for remaining here.”

The irony of legislation that essentially makes a firearm accessory illegal for citizens but perfectly fine for government agencies is profound. It edges Colorado closer to one of the very conditions most abhorrent to Constitutional framers: taking the powers of defense out of the hands of individuals, while enriching the state’s power to do, with more capable weapons, as it sees fit.

Colorado wouldn’t be the first State to succeed in eroding citizens’ rights in such a fashion. But the dominoes are falling. The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, the quixotic lobbying group, lauds California, Hawaii, Massachusetts and New Mexico for having banned magazines that hold more than 10 rounds; New Jersey’s ban — like the proposed Colorado legislation — limits the capacity to 15 rounds.

Ben Bullard

Reconciling the concept of individual sovereignty with conscientious participation in the modern American political process is a continuing preoccupation for staff writer Ben Bullard. A former community newspaper writer, Bullard has closely observed the manner in which well-meaning small-town politicians and policy makers often accept, unthinkingly, their increasingly marginal role in shaping the quality of their own lives, as well as those of the people whom they serve. He argues that American public policy is plagued by inscrutable and corrupt motives on a national scale, a fundamental problem which individuals, families and communities must strive to solve. This, he argues, can be achieved only as Americans rediscover the principal role each citizen plays in enriching the welfare of our Republic.

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  • Buster the Anatolian

    Magpul, Arkansas will welcome you with open arms.

  • http://personalliberty Alondra

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  • http://yahoo bob peters

    What the F is wrong with you Colorado..you lost your balls and letting these liberal twits make girls out of you men.???

    • victoryintruth

      Colorado has been taken over by the Agenda 21 filth that began in Fort Collins some 20 years ago and metastasized to Boulder and in most of the state, as in all states. With the money of Pat Stryker (in Fort Collins) and her Gang of Four, they’ve increased the widespread corruption in Larimer County to new heights (or lows). Most of us are aware that the shooting tragedies out there–and elsewhere–were not as “advertised”. It’s just too convenient that all the purported lone gunman were on SSRIs and therefore convenient patsies or tools for the Second Amendment destroyers. I lived out there a few years ago and WOULD NOT go back there. They are highly fluoridated there and the green trash pretty much call the shots.

      • eddie47d

        The “green trash” is what is saving the state and keeping Colorado from being ruined by developers and reckless energy companies. I pity the state you moved too “truth” for now they have you trashing that state.

  • Jim

    I say move the company to another state, and to hell with Colorado, Les Baer ( custom gun manufadturer) moved from the Peoples Republic of Illinois to Iowa.

    • http://BookPrintPublishing.com Charlie Dog

      Come on down to TX where we’re almost free and the weather is warmer, especially near Galveston. A big plus is we don’t have a state income tax. It should be noted that we’ve got the only Rep who threatened Obama with a Letter of Impeachment if he tried to overstep his authority and skip Congress concerning shredding the Second Amendment on gun control by issuing an Executive Order. He didn’t. Another big plus is we (TX) have several billion dollars set aside in our treasury for a rainy day fund instead of being dead broke like some of the so called “pregressive” states like CA.. Our constution requires a balanced budget every year. And we’re trying to secede from Hussein’s 16 trillion debt that will probably be 21 trillion when his term is over, PS: He wants to change the constitution to remove the 8 year maximum for Prez. Look out !!!!!! Maybe he’ll give the rest of us a free phone especially if we vote multiple times for him. LOL Charlie Dog

  • http://Personallibertydigest Robert Mo

    Come to Missouri. We would be glad to have you. I believe Coors beer profits are going down.

  • http://www.facebook.com/raymond.johnson.5688 Raymond Johnson

    To Magpul: Come to Texas we would welcome the manufacturing jobs and you guys would save a butt load in taxes!

    • eddie47d

      A poll in Colorado which ended yesterday was 65% in favor of letting Magpul leave the state. This issue also has been voted on in the House of Representatives and passed 34-31. The State Senate will vote later on. We are fully aware that they will move to another state but somethings are more important (human life) than some of the products they make. Yes Colorado residents will only drive to another state to buy the same product and stock up. The same with fireworks which can be bought just across the border in Cheyenne. Magpul can still manufacture 30 round magazines but they have to be sold to the military. You know having the ability to kill dozens of enemy who are attacking your position. The needs between civilians and the military are as wide as the Mississippi River so Magpul will either have to adjust its business to reflect that or move.

    • victoryintruth

      Texas is looking better and better in many ways but you still have Rick, [expletive deleted], running things. He needs to go and be replaced with a Constitutionalist with brains and integrity.

      • momo

        Yeah, Rick ain’t the smartest person in the world, but he’s smart enough not to screw with a good thing.

  • dan

    Magpul : outstanding product and seems like outstanding management.

    It’s time to disarm the Feds:if high capacity mags are for war ,why do THEY need them on American soil unless they’re at war with the American people.We don’t need an occupying army asking for our travel papers and searching our belongings.They have no jurisdiction outside of “Federal Property’ despite their twisting of the interstate commerce act from whence ALL their ‘power’ flows.

    • ibcamn

      Dan,perfect point made!this regime has been at war the second Obama got his lunchhooks into America!the progressives have been slowly beefing up the police force for that exact thing!why you think its been an issue lately,our rights being trampled on by the police,why you think police corruption is running rampant in this country!?!police going(on orders from Obama)to hurricane Katrina victims and forcefully taking away their weapons away from them,they used guns against looters and for protection of their families,breaking into homes if you don’t comply!!they are using the police to turn this country into a police state!and the police are stupid enough to go along with it(god complex)and Obama knows the police have this mental problem!

      Dan,we have been at war with the gov’t,most people just don’t know it!

      ::go to you tube and just type in police,or national guard comfiscate guns from Katrina victims and see what you get,it’s just plain disturbing!-in one video,the police tackle and beat 80yr old woman to take her revolver(unloaded)from her!!

  • Scott

    The irony is that Trinidad State Junior College houses the oldest Gunsmithing School in the nation. When I went there over 40 years ago, we even built a rifle for the Governor, who used it on the “American Sportsman” network TV program. Times have sure changed. There was also a private gunsmithing school in Denver.

    • eddie47d

      Why would that change anything at Trinidad State? Your jumping to the wrong conclusion to think gunsmithing won’t be allowed.

  • tim

    I don’t live in colorado but I think you people who are asking these companies to move to your’e state are just like the same people who are using these crisis for thier own agenda!!!! If you lived in these states you would be pissed off they were trying to take your’e rights away!!!!!!!

  • ibcamn

    Remember people,this is what Obama wants,to close up companies(like these guys)and layoff the workers(to go on gov’t assistance)to depend on the gov’t.he wants that company gone!he wants you to boycott that company if they stay he wants all the new regulations to be put on that company if they start a new place(as to being grandfathered in)all this stuff is what the progressives sit home drooling over!and for you to have something illegal so they can bust you!know your rights and stand up against tyranny,vote!
    this is just the start of what’s to come!if these types of companies win against Obama,he will sick his IRS watchdogs after them,this is Obama’s favorite trick.he get’s upset if we win anything!this thin skinned man has no love for the American people!go back and lisyen to his speeches,they are all about things against America!against the people!against our freedoms!and this companies product is against his policy’s!the way he want’s this country to be without civilians owning guns and all the goodies that go with it!!

    • eddie47d

      What happened to States Rights that were the rage of Conservatives for years? If a state does or doesn’t want this business then shouldn’t that be up to the state and the voters. The last time I looked Obama is the President of the USA not the Governor of Colorado. As an example there are a few things that people don’t like about Gov Rick Perry of Texas yet it is still his state to run.

      • Vigilant

        The doctrine of states’ rights has nothing to do with the Second Amendment, eddie. The right to bear arms can NOT, by the Constitution itself, be abridged by the states, period. Whether or not the restriction of magazine capacity is even a Second Amendment issue is a legal matter to be considered separately.

        The thrust of the proposed law is obviously not about driving a business out of state, but about satisfying the blood lust of the left wingers. In all honesty, however, I see little here to concern any citizen outside of Colorado. Laws against manufacture, sale or possession of high capacity magazines will become as ineffective as existing “safeguards” in stemming the flow of illegal weapons. One will always be able to secure these magazines.

        On the other hand, click the link provided by Mr. Bullard and you’ll see that Magpul’s magazine inventory is but a part of their overall operation. COO Doug Smith is engaging in a bit of malarkey when he says, “customers around the state and the nation would boycott us for remaining here.” He fails to explain why customers outside the state would boycott his company.

        They are an Internet business and I suspect that neither staying nor moving from one physical location to another would have any impact whatsoever on his business.

    • Daveh234

      Again wrong on this. LBCAMM. It’s states rights and this is what they wanted. No Federal Govt. input Blame the State Legislature.

  • FreedomFighter

    Vote the Dems out — all of them — the midterm is coming. Take them to court for infringement and dont comply to illegal laws.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • victoryintruth

      Good luck voting anything meaningful. it’s an owned process. The democrat machine, funded by very powerful and wealthy filth, funded the switch in Colorado from a red to a blue state and the steamrolling continues.

      • eddie47d

        Wrong again “truth”. Conservatives and Liberals mostly get along in Colorado and give and take. Neither side controls anything for very long. Two years ago the Republicans controlled the House and Senate so politics averages out with wins and losses on both sides. We don’t let anyone get too power hungry and then it swings back the other way. Most Coloradoans are happy with that arrangement have been for decades.

      • victoryintruth

        eddie boy, I saw it first hand out there and know who and what was behind it. You’re very misinformed, to say the least. I saw the corruption up close and personal.

      • eddie47d

        That’s called debate “truth” ! Do you attack the Republicans when they have control and call it “corruption”.

      • Daveh234

        Lived in Colorado many times throughout my life. Wonderful state and it still is. You seem to be one sided in your views and have little respect for the majority who now have voted the way they wanted. That is American.
        This gun business these days is wrong on both sides. Just keep buying more guns and if all else fails they will either protect you from the “scary” idiotic majority sheep or you can sell them while the rabid gun freak show goes on and on.

      • victoryintruth

        Sorry, but both of you, eddie and Daveh, have no clue as to what has been going on in Colorado. Most who live there are blissfully ignorant of the treason that’s hurting everyone there and elsewhere. Most don’t look past the pretty veneer to see the ugly truths that are hidden.

        I don’t attack. Both republicans and democrats are and have been committing treason for many many years. It happens to be that the democrats are aligned with the treason of Agenda 21 at this time and are driving that utter train wreck in Colorado. THAT is not American. That us UN/foreign rule and entirely unconstitutional.

        Eddie, please remove your head from your behind and stop making this a d/r discussion. It is not.

  • Terry Sternaman

    THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE DOING THE SAME THING THE JEWS DID IN GERMANY, THEY DID NOT FIGHT BACK WHEN THEY WERE TOLD TO GIVE UP THEIR GUNS, AND TOLD WHAT THEY COULD NOT HAVE ! AMERICANS HAVE BECOME GUTLESS . OUR FORE FATHER WOULD BE FIGHTING AGAINST ANY TYPE OF GUN CONTROL / OR CHOPPING UP THE SECOND AMENDMENT. PEOPLE NOW DAYS JUST WON’T STICK TOGETHER. TO LET THEIR GOVERNMENT KNOW THAT THERE IS NO DEAL, LEAVE THE SECOND AMENDMENT ALONE, YOU ARE NOT COMING INTO MY HOUSE LOOKING FOR ANYTHING, NO POLICE STATES, NO NDAA. EVERY ONE FORGETS , THAT THE GOVERNMENT WORKS FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE , FIND SOME GUTS & STAND UNITED , FIGHT BACK

  • ranger09

    Well i guess it gives these overpaid politicians something to do, This crap has been going on for months And you would think that they would be spending more time trying to fix the major problems THEY have caused. But i guess you cannot expect these idiots to do anything to help this Country and its People. Also we only have ourselves to blame, We are letting them Compromise this Country down the Tube. The people are no longer Men and Women But sheep just following the Bell.

  • Jonathan

    “The irony of legislation that essentially makes a firearm accessory illegal for citizens but perfectly fine for government agencies is profound. It edges Colorado closer to one of the very conditions most abhorrent to Constitutional framers: taking the powers of defense out of the hands of individuals, while enriching the state’s power to do, with more capable weapons, as it sees fit.”

    It is not just irony, but tyranny.

    “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” – Thomas Jefferson

  • Dad

    One step closer to communism

    • eddie47d

      Not if its legally voted on and accepted by the people!

  • anthony

    You forget tha “We the people” are the last line of defense agains a tyranicval government. The second amendment was never called “The Bill of Needs” it is the Bill of Rights for a reason. Rights are inaleinable while needs are subject to interpretation. That is why the “You don’t NEED an AR-15 to hunt with” argument is gaining so much momentum. It never guaranteed our right to hunt. It guaranteed our right to self defense with the same, or at least equivalent weapons that could be used against us by a tyranical government. Don’t be fooled into thinking that the gun control scheme is about anything other than just control. More people die from medical malpractice, drunk drivers, and even regualr old pneumonia every year than guns, respectively. Do your own homework and educate yourself. This is just one big “Puzzle” of gradual changes, and restrictions that when coupled together eqaul our enslavement by those who are just “Looking out for own own good.” Don’t wait for the water to boil, but wake up and get out of the pot. The gradual changes are the dangerous ones because the effects are so hard to notice until it is too late.

    • http://yahoo Don

      that argument about not needing an ar-15 for hunting isnt how a lot of hunters feel. there are a lot of people who use the 223 caliber rifle to hunt coyotes and other predators. some deer hunters have turned to them too. supposedly they are a bit more accurate than a conventional weapon and don’t weigh near as much and are easier to handle. look in some of the predator hunting magaziness. you will see most of the hunters in the articles are using the weapons. the hell of it is any more people condemn people for possessing these weapons because of what a very few do and the masses must pay the price for iti. most of the gun killings in this country are from pistols. once again the masses must pay the price for what the few do. gun ownership should be based on what this country was founded on. its called the freedom of choice. why not make penalties in gun crimes so severe it would scare anyone from doing anything with a gun . it would be a better solution…. too many established gun laws of the past aren’t even enforced. why not start now?

  • James

    I find those that desire any kind of ban regarding weapons is ignorant of what the Second Amendment says and, more importantly, what the Second Amendment means!!! But even more, there are those that are willingly ignorant of the facts….and being a willing participant make the complaisant in the deeds done!

    It really doesn’t take that much study to get the drift of what was going through the minds of the writers of the Constitution, Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence! They wanted to insure the Country has and keeps the ability to defend itself from any such forces that would rise against the freedom and liberty of America! Simple!

    The Second Amendment is NOT about hunting…..NOT about sport shooting at targets and dummies…..the Second Amendment IS about having the ability to defend the Country from enemies from with-out and enemies from with-in!!!!! Simple!!!!!

  • Average Joe

    Bravo for Magpul. Glad to see another industry manufacturer standing up to the PTB. and bravo to these manufacturers as well!

    http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/02/gun-makers-boycott-governments-hostile-to-second-amendment/

    AJ

  • Liberterian

    It is said that politicians have to resort to deception in order to reach their personal goals against the will of the majority of the sane people not driven by endless fear and an incompacity to consider the outcomes of “stupid laws” driven by fear and igonorance. According to FBI statistics as many people are killed by knives hammers and blunt instruments as guns, so by gun control freaks logic, one should also register hammers and knives sale and maybe even basball bats. Colorado sounds like a forerunner in “stupid laws”.

  • http://midcontent ridge runner

    Any surprise over any dumbocrap coming up with more stupid laws or having more resrtictions on laws on abiding citizens, from doing a honest job with honest pay?

  • http://midcontent ridge runner

    Isn’t another drug head state?

  • Public Citizen

    This is what results from decades of California Liberals being allowed to “colonize” the State of Colorado.

    • joe1cr

      Colorado + California Liberals =Calorado or Colofornia either way you say it the state has been taken over by the liberal potheads of the 60′s and their offspring. When they are done there ,where will they go next ?

  • joe1cr

    Dear Mr. Smith feel free to bring Magpul to Jonh Denver’s other mountain state “Almost Heaven West Virginia” . We not only need the jobs ,but will defend your and our second amendment rights.

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