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Blaming Soldiers For Bad Policy From Elites

September 26, 2012 by  

Blaming Soldiers For Bad Policy From Elites
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U.S. soldiers train Afghan police and soldiers.

The government elites in the United States have perpetuated failed foreign policy initiatives in the Mideast at behest of the military-industrial complex while simultaneously attempting to make the U.S. occupation of certain countries in the region appear to be purposed for training the citizenry to provide safety for themselves. For American soldiers, the sham has had fatal consequences.

In Afghanistan, the number of “green on blue” attacks — strikes by Afghan soldiers being trained by Americans (whom they often shoot in the back) — has been increasing over the past year. But rather than admit that the war in Afghanistan (Iraq, Libya, technically Syria and soon Iran) is a failed undertaking perpetuated only to continue the flow of profits to monied elites connected to the military industrial complex, the Pentagon has taken to faulting the American troops.

Over the past three years, 97 U.S. and NATO troops have been murdered by uniformed Afghan “allies.” And currently, the entire Arab world is rife with hatred for America and her foreign policy — though, for political reasons, the anger has been blamed on a ridiculous and terrible YouTube video.

Unwilling to admit the folly that is American foreign policy in the Mideast, the Pentagon has decided that American soldiers in the region need to undergo more rigorous “Islamic sensitivity training.”

“There’s a percentage [of attacks] which are cultural affronts,” Joint Chiefs Chairman General Martin Dempsey explained in a recent interview.

According to the New York Post, American soldiers in the Mideast should observe the following rules in order to avoid becoming the victims of fratricide:

* Wear surgical gloves whenever handling a copy of the Koran.
* Never walk in front of a praying Muslim.
* Never show the bottom of boots while sitting or lying across from a Muslim, which in Islam is  considered an insult.
* Never share photos of wives or daughters.
* Never smoke or eat in front of Muslims during the monthlong Ramadan fasting.
* Avoid winking, cursing or nose-blowing in the presence of Muslims — all viewed as insults in Islam.
* Avoid exiting the shower without a towel.
* Avoid offering and accepting things with the left hand, which in Islam is reserved for bodily hygiene and considered unclean.

For more than a decade, the United States has fought wars of futility in the Mideast. And support for American policy in the region is no greater than before. Despite the efforts to blame all of the unrest on Islamic hatred for Americans’ way of life, one would be ignorant to believe that drone strikes in Pakistan that routinely kill civilians, support for the Muslim Brotherhood that angered many in Egyptians and America’s myriad other past transgressions in the Mideast have nothing to do with what is happening to American troops in Afghanistan at present.

The Nation’s ruling elite will never admit that Mideast peace and democracy is an unattainable option as long as the United States is involved. U.S. soldiers are agents of an occupying foreign military in the eyes of people of Mideast nations. And if their behavior is any indication, they don’t like it.

Instead of blaming Islam (or, worse, the behavior of American heroes overseas), perhaps it is time for America’s military-industrial complex to admit to the public that there is little left that can be done in the Arab world, withdraw from the region and stop allowing American soldiers to be sitting ducks for profit.

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • http://Newsmax George

    Amen. Let em fight and win. Support them 100%. Or bring em home

    • Feargy852

      Fight to win the oil and gas you mean yes ?? So it is ok to use your military might to invade another nation and steal and rape ???

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        Natural Gas and Oil here in the U.S. we have the biggest oil field in the world, even more then all the Middle East but, obozo has to make sure we are indebted to his college education backers who are from the Middle East. If not reveal his college information and I’ll get off this mad mans case, since he won’t he has plenty to hide especially to do with his non-citizenship.

      • T-man

        we are paying over $100.00 a barrel for gasoline to inrich the middle east who’s stealing?

        Rape ? it is easy to make claims where is your proof?

      • Feargy852

        Hey Benjamin, you are so correct in some of what you say !! However America does not have the biggest oil field in the world. America’s oil fields are well past their optimum production stage and are starting to dwindle. America however does have one of the worlds largest reserves stockpiles of oil. They do not touch this reserve for any purpose. Hence the reason for invading other sovereign nations and taking control of the oil fields there. The reason for the $100 price on the barrel is specifically because of the war situation !! Prices on oil always go through the roof during all conflicts, unfortunately it wont be coming down any time soon, as America’s next port of call is Iran. You can probably see oil rising to $200 a barrel then. Try live in Ireland, we pay I.70 Euro a ltr, thats approx $2.40 a Ltr which equates to approx $10.80 a gallon. Tell me what do you pay for a gallon of petrol ? Im guessing no more than $1.60 a gallon ??

      • slapjack

        Get your head out of your butt. That thinking died with the T-Rex.

        • Feargy852

          The only thing that died out with T-Rex is that wars were usually fought on a sound an noble ideal, but this is not the case anymore. All America’s invasions into other sovereign nations is driven solely by Greed and the never ending thirst for more oil. How is it then that America has never considered entering North Korea ?? Here we have a total fruit cake of a leader who has starved to death millions of his own people by way of famine. Oh but then again there is no oil here, and also he has nuclear ballistic missile capability ! Not such an easy target hey !!!!

    • tom s

      Let’s just bring them home & stop giving all of those countries our tax money. Those countries have been at war with someone or another for centuries and will continue to be. Meanwhile we send them our tax monies so the corrupt leaders can pocket most of it and supply our enemies that are killing our troops.

      • Feargy852

        I am afraid you are wrong in your assertions that these people have been at war with somebody over the ages !! You really should read up on your history before making a stupid generalizing comment like that !! The only times these people have fought was when their countries were invaded by foreign nations i.e like for instance today with America been the foreign invaders !! Ignorance really is not an excuse for your lack of knowledge, if you really wanted to be informed about such matters you would make it your business to do the research and learn the historical facts and the truth before talking rubbish. However, you are just like the majority of Americans today, you simply choose to be brainwashed by that great propaganda machine you call the media and you swallow every word that your administration throws at you without questioning a single thing !! The word ‘robots’ comes to mind…. : )

      • OneGuess

        @Feargy852: “The only times these people have fought is when their countries were invaded by foreign nations…” If this is true, Feargy852, then why are there Arabs outside of Arabia? I mean, didn’t the Arabs from Arabia conquer many, many countries and keep them? Hmmm?

    • http://Yahoo JD

      George, In the late 60′s, I and many , many others were saying the very same thing.The Congress and elites just would not shut up and do their job, and let the military, and personel do theirs. They lost it in Nam and from the beginning, tried their damndest to lose Iraq for Bush. And very sorry to say, our own Pres. and company, seem to be filling in for Hanoi Jane and hollywood now. Thank GOD the troops are treated a hell of a lot better when they come home. Then as now, they love their country, let them do what they were trained to do,peotect. fight, and WIN.

  • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.marcoux.39 Benjamin Marcoux

    WOULD’NT IT BE IRONIC IF GOD SOUNDED THE TRUMPET BEFORE THE ELITIST COULD ENJOY THEIR “SPOILS “OF THE FAR EAST WARS ON ISLAM ?

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

      Amen and that just might happen, then obozo wouldn’t have to worry about those christians who he hates, being a person of a false book and false religion, lead by a false little god, the reason for death, rape and murder for islam, they worship satan who is the father of all these terrible things.

  • Patriot1776

    The Pentagon has become nothing more than another spokesperson for obama and his pro-perversion, pro-islam, anti-American beliefs. Instead of standing up to support the true heros and patriots who have fought against the spread of communism and socialism and tyranny, they have degraded the image of those great men and women by allowing open homosexuallity, parading in gay celebrations and abandoning service men and women.

    • r k

      Yes Patriot1776, Obama is a war mongerer, but you are contradicting yourself. You say that “….for obama and his pro-perversion, pro-islam, anti-American beliefs”
      If Obama is pro-islam why does he keep fighting a loosing war in Afganistan or sending drones to Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libiya which are all islamic countries and creating the anger against USA. At the same time when stupid Romney says we should not cut military budget, all you Repubs, support really big time war mongerer Repub politicians.
      It just shows most of you Repub voters are nothing but falls patriots and delusional people.

      • http://yahoo bob peters

        Mohammed Obama???Barack Putin??? What is the mans name??? Well,whatever it is our troops deserve more respect..to appease the enemy is to degrade our troops..time to come home and fight on the real front…the border…RESPECT_GIVE IT_GET IT…or forever shut the hell up.

        • http://gravatar.com/124andmore MikeR

          bob peters: I don’t think Obama is a muslim. He’s an anti-American marxist He manipulates muslims and christians to achieve his fantasy of transforming America into a marxist country. If he wins another term, he will achieve his goal through executive orders. He will appoint more leftists to key federal positions, he will appoint more leftist federal judges, and he will probably have an opportunity to appoint at least two more leftists to the Supreme Court. A Republican majority in the House and Senate could thwart his plan, but only if Boehner, Cantor, and McConnell are replaced by stronger, more conservative leaders.
          Ronald Reagan said “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.”

      • kkflash

        Obama continues to do the foolish things you listed in the Mideast because he’s a foreign-policy moron who doesn’t have the USA’s interests at heart. You, RK, are the delusional one for thinking Obama is anything but a lying, socialist crook.

      • eddie47d

        Obama has shown far more respect for our troops than hypocrite Cheney ever did. Who cares if a soldier is gay Patriot 1776 they are still soldiers fighting for your freedom. So why be so condescending towards them. No service member is being abandoned and all who fight for this country deserve great respect including woman.

      • Joan

        You don’t get it. The muslims will kill all Americans when they can and will not kill the Obama’s because they are with the muslims.

        • Feargy852

          Where do you get this nonsense from ? ” Muslims will kill all Americans if they can ” !! What is your justification and proof for making such a retarded comment like this ?? The only Americans that are been killed are after all invaders in foreign nations !! They were not invited there but instead invaded for the purposes of capturing all the natural resources there i.e the oil and gas !! Tell me, if a foreign nation invaded America tomorrow with the same purpose in mind would you not join the revolt and launch an attack on these invaders in your country ? I suspect you would indeed Yes ?

      • eddie47d

        Joan “of dark”.!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/michael.papich.9 Michael Papich

      This is not a new development. The seeds thereof go back several decades. Remember the Calley trial!

    • GiveAwayJimmie

      Agree with your statement—-our military is becoming to politically correct.

      • Feargy852

        Armies have always been and will always be political tools. At the end of the day it is down to the American people what purposes their military is used for !! Hopefully in the future it will only be used for noble causes and not causes of greed.

  • Thomas

    Another VietNam or ” How to Make Money ” part 4

  • CARROLL BENOIT

    Afghanistan~WAR, Some one from the Top down has forgotten this Even 3,000 on 9/11.

    * Wear surgical gloves whenever handling a copy of the Koran.
    * Never walk in front of a praying Muslim.
    * Never show the bottom of boots while sitting or lying across from a Muslim, which in Islam is considered an insult.
    * Never share photos of wives or daughters.
    * Never smoke or eat in front of Muslims during the monthlong Ramadan fasting.
    * Avoid winking, cursing or nose-blowing in the presence of Muslims — all viewed as insults in Islam.
    * Avoid exiting the shower without a towel.
    * Avoid offering and accepting things with the left hand, which in Islam is reserved for bodily hygiene and considered unclean.

    • eddie47d

      We should respect others cultures as best as possible whether a soldier or a tourist. Yet I got a kick out of the one about no nose blowing. Even Muslims have to blow their noses especially in a sandy dry region. How can they not do so?

      • http://none dave landsbergen

        MAKE BELIEVE THEY’RE SNEEZING. LET’S STOP HOLDING BACK THE OCEAN OF WAR . GET OUR GUYS BACK TO THEIR FAMILIES. DIDN’T OBAMA PROMISE THAT??

    • Joan

      Will do, only when they follow and respect our way of life.

    • Art

      Screw islam and the morons that think this is a religion. Nothing but a bunch of murders

  • Sheral Danker

    I say withdraw all troops from the mideast and let them make it on their own. We are trying to help train Afghan soldiers, yet out troops have to be so careful of everything they say or do to keep from hurting the Afghans feelings. What about our feelings when our boys are maimed and killed. Get out, let the Afghans make it on their own, and see what that does for their feelings.

  • Robert

    This all sounds like votes for Ron Paul. Foreign intervention when it is absolutely necessary and for the benefit of the United States only.

    • http://yahoo gator

      Robert, your right, it’s too bad RON PAUL didn’t have a chance. it just proves, you have to be a puppet of corporate greed to get nominated to run for president.
      RON PAUL isn’t there because he’s FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE; so sadly we have a lameass republican running against a potus who hates AMERICA and everything for which it stands.
      we’re in deep guano!

      • michiganminuteman

        gator, stop being a dumb-ass and stop letting the MSM tell you who and what Mitt Romney is. He is a very sucsessful buisiness man and a good family man. People need to do some reserch of their own. Mitt looks like he is just the man this country needs at this point in history. You are a willing victom of miss-information, dumb-ass

        • http://gravatar.com/124andmore MikeR

          michiganminuteman: Very well said.

  • momo

    Declare Victory and GET OUT!!!

    • Feargy852

      Victory hey hehehehe Really ?? Look closer to home people, look at F.E.M.A !! Wake up before it is too late !!

      • momo

        I was being sacastic. That was first said by Senator George Aiken (R) Vermont, who told both Presidents Johnson and Nixon to declar victory and get out of Vietnam.

    • http://yahoo gator

      to hell with victory, BRING THEM ALL HOME NOW! NOW!

      • michiganminuteman

        I agree with you on this point, bring them home!!!

  • http://gravatar.com/124andmore MikeR

    Sam Rolley: I agree that we should get out of the Middle East. We should have bombed Iraq and Afganistan and then come home. Eisenhower warned us about the military-industrial complex in his exit speech. However, coming home won’t solve the problem of islam. The koran teaches muslims from childhood that infidels (everyone who isn’t a musim) must be either taxed, enslaved, or killed. Our government was foolish to allow muslims into this country. Now they are a threat from within. Every American should read the koran at least once to fully understand the threat of islam. We have enough oil and natural gas in the U.S. to last for at least two hundred years. We should drill for oil, secure our borders, increase our air defense, increase our submarine fleet, and become very selective about who we allow to enter this country. All embassies in islamic countries should be closed, and all types of aid to those countries should stop. Of course I understand that our present leaders (Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Boehner, Cantor, McConnell) are too weak to make any of the changes necessary for our survival. They benefit enormously from the military-industrial complex, and their primary concern is getting reelected.

    • http://yahoo bob peters

      true true,,,,,Too many brain dead morons here in the USA.. They keep voting for these fools …There will be a revolution one day and all these traitors or so called washington elite will meet the wrath of the patriots who love their country…

    • Feargy852

      Bomb Iraq and Afghanistan for what reasons ??

      • bern

        Love your posts…so true!! wish there were more here with your thoughts..

      • http://gravatar.com/124andmore MikeR

        Feargy852: For the same reason that people climb mountains – because they’re there. If that isn’t an adequate reason for you, how about this one: All muslim countries are breeding grounds for terrorists. The only good muslim is a dead muslim. If you think that is hateful, then read the koran. Muslims are intent on creating a global caliphate, and they don’t want peace, they want global jihad. You won’t understand or believe that until you read the koran and the hadithe. Islam should never be compared to other religions. Islam should be compared to the KKK, nazis, and the mafia.

        • Feargy852

          I would have compared America to the 3rd Reich actaully !! But then again who sure one of the guys who bankrolled them was none other that grand pappy Bush !!! Do your own research buddy, I am well versed inn most religions. Americans should concern themselves with what is happening on their own soil. F.E.M.A, Fusion Centers, Mandatory inoculations ( coming soon ) !! Thes are both just a few of the issues coming your way shortly. As for terrorists !! America is the home ground of terrorism and the best of them are sitting in your White House and Administration. There are that many Militia and illegal groups in America you could fill a few countries with them. Trust me, the sh.it is going to hit the fan very soon in America and when it does you are going to standing there with your thumb up your ass wondering whats going on !!!

          • http://gravatar.com/124andmore MikeR

            Feargy852: I assume from your crude thumb reference that you are a homosexual. It’s because of guys like you that I avoid drinking fountains.

      • Feargy852

        Well MikeR, You have just answered the question on exactly what type of intellect you possess !! It is common practice for individuals who have neither the ability or brain power to engage in a proper dialogue or debate to then merely resort to vulgar and idiotic comments !! The thumb up your ass analogy was derived in America if you must know back in the 1940′s and generally referred to a gormless fool with no clue as to what was going on around him !! But I really did not expect you to know or be aware of this, after all it would involve reading and increasing ones intellect and this is something you obviously have never done in your life. There is an old adage which says ” if you you do not have anything constructive to say then it is best to keep your mouth shut” !! As for fountains I would not know, but you sure do seem to know a lot about where the homosexual sect hang out !!!

        • http://gravatar.com/124andmore MikeR

          Feargy852: I think you probably have one of those rainbow stickers on the back of your gaymobile.

      • Warthog0

        To get rid of all older munitions before expiration dates?

    • michiganminuteman

      You are right, and they (muslims)have infiltrated all the way up to the White House! obama is a clear and present danger to the security of the USA!

  • Doris

    Is this sensitivity training for real..? If it is..What a damn insult to our brave troops..I wish they would get our guys out of that ungodly place..God knows you cannot fix stoopid,and they are a bunch of uncivilized idiots..We all need to start calling the whitehouse and insist
    that they bring our guys back home now..where they belong.. I got so mad when I read this,

  • Ted Gager

    God help us and those being sent to the slaughter by the self righteous profiteres who shield themselves and their families from the devestation they perpetuate on others. We are all to BLAME for not rising up and putting an end to it. The masses, as we are called, should over run DC leaving decimation in our wake. Let them know what it is like to be under foot as they run to hide from those they dishoner….

    • Feargy852

      You have hit the nail on the head my friend !! At the end of the day change can only come about by the will of the American people !! American people in general need to start waking up and seeing what is been perpetrated in their name.

      • retiroe USA Special Forces

        You have some good words but a large group of your facts are not quit up to snuff. An example; when did countries in central Europe invade the Muslim world? You may be well read but the material you have studied is the problem. Like with a computer junk in; junk out.

  • Thomas Martin

    Even our military top brass does not know what to do…Maybe it is time for forget sensitivity training and say to hell with our boy president and fight this thing to win..I really dont care how many of those muslims we do do kill over there…just win the damn thing…No nation has ever been successful in fighing a protracted war.

    • eddie47d

      I assume you are referring to G Bush as the “boy president” since he’s the one who got us involved and set up those policies.

    • Feargy852

      You say fight to win !! Again what are you fighting for ? what is the real reason for been there in the first place ? I mean the honest reason ok !

    • r k

      You are nothing but a brainless, BUTCHER.

  • Chester

    MikeR, Islam is a lot like Christianity, like it or not, If you carefully read the Bible, and select which parts of it to practice and which to say have no bearing on your life,. you can wind up just as nasty and ill-tempered as any self-immolating Muslim. The Koran is as filled with contradictions as the bible, so it depends on which parts you believe and practice just what kind of person you are. Islam’s biggest problem is that it is still a teenager in a world of adult religions, so it has to have its fits and throw its tantrums just to prove to the others it matters.

    • http://gravatar.com/124andmore MikeR

      Chester: It is clear to me that you are just another fool who defends islam without ever reading the koran or the hadithe.

  • Edward

    As a retired U S Navy CPO with 26 years service all I can say is [expletive deleted]! America has the best equipped, best trained fighting men/women in the world……………YET THEY ARE HAM STRUNG BY STUPID POLITICIANS IN THEIR $1000 SUITS IN d.c> A WAR IS FOUGHT TO DESTROIY YOUR ENEMY NOT [expletive deleted] FOOT AROUND AND DON’T DISTURB HIS SENSIBILITIES…………….EITHER FIGHT OR GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE

    • Feargy852

      Can you tell the reasons for the so called war ???

  • Joy

    THE WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST MUST BE STOPPED! It has nothing to do with peace, and democracy, but of greed for money, and natural resources! Our veterans are dying to make bankers, and corporations rich! BRING OUR CETERANS HOME! STOP SENDING FOREIGN AID TO THE MIDDLE EAST! The money is propping up dictators to live a lavish lifestyle at taxpayers expense! This Administration is bombing them with drones, and killing innocent women and children… Provoking the people! No wonder they hate us!! Spend wasted tax dollars in America… On veterans, putting America back to work!

    • Feargy852

      Dictators may I add that were all put in place to serve a purpose by none other that America !

  • kategray

    That is worst mistake is to disenfranchise the TROOPS. If your expect the troops to protect YOUR back you had better think twice. WAHT IS THE PRETENDER AND CONGRESS THINKING?

    • eddie47d

      Bringing our troops would hardly disenfranchise them and may even show that we truly love them. Why should they be continual fodder for the Military Industrial Complex?

  • http://www.facebook.com/joelscopeland Joel Copeland

    At the risk of sounding trite, “He who has the gold makes the rules.” I see so much advertising to join the military, all the “Army of One,” “A Global Force for Good,” “We Do The Impossible Every Day,” “The Few, The Proud, etc” I’m not condemning pride in service, but there’s all this marketing to swell the ranks with young minds and bodies, then sacrifices them for military-industrial complex profits. Just like in Vietnam, WE’RE NOT ACCOMPLISHING ANYTHING!!!!! Nothing except profits for few, and death for many. What an honor! [expletive deleted]. Service to our country should not mean being served on a platter to appease any foreign nation. I’ll happily defend my country, but does that mean I have to kiss the ass that I’m kicking? Define “defending”: Are we REALLY protecting our nation and our allies from anything other than risking their profit margins for oil, trade, and military hardware sales? I wish better things for our young than this capitalist-elitist crap that chews them up and spits them into an early grave. You don’t change thousands of years of Islamic influence and barbarism in a mere eleven years. Just look at those who participated in the Crusades and the Hundred Years War and you’ll start to get the bigger picture.

    • Feargy852

      I have to agree with you totally Joel, the sole reason for American troops ‘Invading’ any country is all in the name of capturing natural resources, namely oil and gas !! To use the reason ‘Democracy’ is laughable. Today in America Democracy has been eroded without the average American even been aware of this fact. F.E.M.A ‘s basic function is to oversee martial law in America. Agents of F.E.M.A by law can enter any American citizens home without a warrant and they can also arrest without charge and furthermore they can detain citizens indefinitely without any reason whatsoever. The truth is we are now in an age referred to as the Post-Democratic Age.

      • http://www.facebook.com/kent.perry.7 Kent Perry

        First of all, it was the SIX day war and one of the Countries Israel attacked was the United States in a relentless effort to sink the USS Liberty and blame it on Egypt to manipulate America to get into the war effort with them, but it failed and the Liberty was able to make it to a port for repairs while hundreds of US Sailors died that day, another thing died along with them, and that is any reason what so ever to be allies with Israel ever again. It wouldn’t be the first time Israel attempted to frame another Country by attacking us and in some cases, our own Government was in on it too. This is why having a lobby that operates in the United States but whose entire agenda is to get support for a Country OTHER than the United States is totally asinine. Yes I am talking about AIPAC.

        By the way all you people who claim Islam is such a darling such an innocent and that they have never been in wars for centuries etc,. The Muslim Country’s may not have been but the Muslim PEOPLE, live for Jihadism and there has been tribal wars between shia, sunni Kurds, the turks the list goes on and on. Those that compare Islam to Christianity, notice they have to go back centuries and bring up the crusades, and GOOD THING THERE WERE PATRIOTS CALLED CHRITSIANS BACK THEN ELSE YOU MAY ALL BE SPEAKING ARABIC, moreover, NO religion has brought more to civilization than the Christian religion and that is a FACT that is undeniable. Science, spawned out of the Christian faith, the concept of Hospitals and Universities, in fact Harvard and Yale were both projects funded by Christians and were originally Christian universities. The main difference between the Christian who commits murder and the Muslim who does the same,. is the Christian disobeys God when he does such an act whereas, the Muslim commits acts of murder to Obey Allah and the {so called } Prophet, Muhammad. (Pigs be upon him).

        As much as I agree to the suggestion, America should mind its own business, now that we ARE there, it seems many have a problem with our Military bases being close to Oil and Gas lines. Why does this not make sense to you people? OF COURSE we want to protect such areas, where do you suggest we put our bases, in remote areas of the desert so they can cut our gas lines and fuel thereby having our tanks and various other military hardware that runs using the combustion engine. There was a time when we DID have corporate interests there with the unocal oil In 1997, Unocal sold its western United States refining and marketing operations after an attempt to build the Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline to run from the Caspian basin.

  • charlie

    If I remember correctly the Bush Administration put us there with the phoney terrorist attacks, chemical plants, Twin Towers , Pentagon, and phony baloney crashes with wrong type debris. You republicans are a strange bunch. Totally absorbed with hate and war until a Democrat is in office and then you all use your (stupid) wisdom and common sense.
    Where are your heads people. You know that stupid rooster in the cartoons that says I say I say. That should be on you republican posters the symbol of the Republican Party. After Feeding the BS to you, they put you all out to pasture to graze. Yes all too many grazers in this country.
    Watch some educational programs on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, Grazing Republicans And Democrats. Knowledge is there for the taking. I spoke to some republican friends the other day and they said they would never watch the documentary on the twin towers it was too painful to watch. Give Me A Break.

    • kellys

      I believe the democrats voted for this as well. Your “my pig is better than your pig” argument is failing. This kind of thinking is why Americans as a whole can not fix their country, they refuse to acknowledge the evil in their own ranks wether they are Democrat or Republican. The toilet that is DC is overflowing with terds, it is time to flush and plunge repeatedly and get them all out.

  • braindeadus

    “We walked in so we can walk out of the middle east “a quote from Ron Paul. Wake up braindead america vote these idiots out of office. You had a chance to vote for a true american in Ron Paul, he would have gotten us out of all these problems. Have your on opionion, don’t be a follower vote for the man not the party.

    • kellys

      Thank you!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=8368139 Jim VanBeek

    Maybe the Muslims need the sensitivity training. They need to be more sensitive when a foreign power invades and occupies their country. They should be more sensitive when bombers and drones drop bombs wiping out neighborhoods. They should be more sensitive when we embargo their nations and their children starve to death. I am shocked at the insensitivity of the Muslims!

    • 2004 done

      Yes, I too think we are wrong to give them aid, and we must be simply lucky that they are taking American $, equipment, and lives. I only hope they can become smart enough (globally, of course) to stop accepting our assistance. The same with the U.N., although the idea of foreign “diplomats” not having to follow our laws or customs while spying is especially appealing. I think I just broke my sarcasm bone. Do not forget Michael New, patriot.

  • Feargy852

    I too am a serving soldier but under the flag of a small European country ! Soldiers are people at the end of the day and as such they too have a moral compass. As a soldier I know there is such thing as an illegal act, and as such I also know that it is my choice to carry out such a command or order !! To hide behind excuses is really no reason at all and on this point any soldier who carries out an unlawful order is himself/herself accountable in a court of law. The real problem I feel is the lack of education among American troops. Ok, it still does not not excuse a lot of the actions performed however it does go along way towards to explaining it. Is it any wonder that Army recruitment offices pop up all over America and usually in areas of deprivation. This is no accident either, it is done so by design, it is the best and easiest method for recruiting mass numbers. The down side to such an exercise especially in the lead up to any invasion is that the troops in question get insufficient training and little or no indoctrination into the cultures and the peoples of the countries for which they are about to invade. Also, American people as a whole must share most of the blame !! It is all well and good to wave your flag and shout Patriotism, but eventually you too must ensure that your troops conduct themselves in an honorable and lawful manner. In the modern world ‘FEAR’ is without doubt is possibly the most powerful weapon that any nation can propagate against its own people ! Realistically though people should not swallow hook ,line and sinker everything their Government tells them. People should use good reason and judgement and see the facts for they really are. The history of the last 20 – 30 years alone should be sufficient evidence to show that the American people are been constantly lied to by their Administration in the event of wars. Fear is basically a tool used for mustering support from a people and again recent history shows alto clearly that it has been used to gain support for military action against middle eastern nations ( countries with natural resources I may add ). All of these issues are closely tied together !! wither it be the actions of troops on active duty or the reasons people give their support in the first place !!

    • factnotrhetoric

      A patsy is someone set up to take the fall for a very evil person.

      Until American Soldiers wake up and recognize their war crimes, they are the patsies of the UN/NATO world takeover.

      Until American Citizens wake up and recognize the UN/NATO war crimes, America will be the patsies of the UN/NATO world takeover.

      It’s against the Geneva Convention, and a war crime to:
      1) Kill 30,000 Libyan men women and children
      2) Bomb and destroy the Libyan Civilian Water infrastructures and water-repair factory
      3) Steal 144 tons of gold from the Libyan people’s central bank
      4) Fund and arm over 2,000 Al Qaeda to invade and overthrow Libya
      5) Kill over 30,000 Syrian men, women and children
      6) Kill over 30,000 Afghanistan men, women and children
      6) Kill over 1-million Iraqi men, women and children
      7) Assassinate over 3500 Pakistani men, women and children with drones.

  • http://Yahoo Maynard

    Ignorance is our enemy. 9/11 WAS NOT Caused by Muslim terrorists!
    Some of the so-caled hijackers turned up alive. They were brought here because strings were pulled. They were not extremists Muslims. They could not fly Cessnas let alone huge airliners. Why would they target accountants at the Pentagon instead of the big brass and .Rumsfeld.
    I could go on and on but many of you would go right on blaming the Muslims. You have been brainwashed.

    I challenge any of you to ask me a question about the WTC building collapses, the Pentagon Attack, the anthrax letters, Osama bin Laden was scapegoated. Look at the impersonator on the video we “claim” to have found in Afghanistan.

    You cannot be so obtuse to fail to see that the WTC Buildings were brought down by CONTROLLED DEMOLITION. The Empire State Building was hit by a bomber in 1945. Why is it still standing?

    • Feargy852

      Also why was it that the 400 million tonnes of rubble was was shipped to china in a matter of weeks ?? No scientific investigation carried out whatsoever !! Also all the concrete in the towers and building 7 was basically pulverized in mid air and was then spread all over lower the lower city in the form of dust. How does dis happen, I mean logicallly how does this happen ?? It can only happen by way of explosives !!!

  • mark

    Hopeless, unwinnable wars are America’s specialty: the War against Alcohol (Prohibtion), the War against Drugs (prices are down, use is up after blowing billions and imprisoning millions to no avail and zero effect), Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. We have the best trained, best paid, best equipped, and most expensive military in the world. And they can do just about everything – except their main job, win wars. Because the wars they are assigned are hopeless, unwinnable ones since the majority of the people in the lands where they fight support the enemy’s values and culture over ours. But politicians and war ethusiasts (there are many of those on this site) never seem to get this.

    Virtually no American would ever accept our occupation by a foreign army with a different religion and culture. But these same Americans don’t seem to understand that Muslims overseas feel the same way. As long as we militarily occupy them, they will fight us forever. The only way to triumph would be to kill every man, woman, and child in these nations – and then that would make us worse than Al Qaeda, worse than the Nazis. And then the enemy wins an even bigger victory – they have destroyed all of America’s values. So let’s just get out as quick as we can. Obama has a 2014 exit date for which conservatives have criticized him (They want to stay in Afghanistan longer!). I would favor leaving much sooner. Like in 6 months – about the time it would take to do so in an orderly manner. Right now Al Qaeda and Taliban enthusiasts are joining the U.S.-trained and equipped Afghan security forces in droves. They then turn around and kill Americans with their new weapons and training the very first chance they get. If continuing to support this is not madness, I don’t know what is

    • kellys

      Obama had a 2009 exit date the last time he campaigned,

  • ladybug

    If you voted for Obama because he is black, you are a racist. If you didn’t vote for Obama because he is black, you are a racist. I did not vote for Obama because his campaign was all talk and no substance. He did not say what “Change” was and now we know and I’m glad I didn’t vote for him.

    Obama apologized all over the middle east because he figured that would make them all gooey inside and they would regard us highly. All it did was make us look weak and encourage them to attack more. Our soldiers being shot by the people they are helping to train is so totally unacceptable it is ludicrous. The Afghans should be left to kill each other only (which they do so well). Get our soldiers out of there.

    independent voter

    • Feargy852

      You say your soldiers are been shot by the people they are helping !! Show me a few examples where these people are been helped by your nations presence there ?? Do not kid yourself, your army is a foreign invader and the people of the invaded country is doing exactly what any invaded people would do !!

  • http://att Mark S

    No nation has ever in history defeated the Afganistans. Every nation that has tried it has failed. The Russians lost big there. What I don’t understand is the necessity of teaching the Afgans how to fight. If they could sdefeat the Russians and actually destroy their army and air force, why does the United States think they have to teach the Afgans how to fight.

    • Feargy852

      Hehehehe very good point !! The Afghans have a history of winning wars that goes all the way back to the times of Alexander the Great. Ohh also, how is that the drugs export from Afghanistan has increased a thousand fold since the American army has landed there. The drugs situation in Europe has gone crazy since America ousted the Taliban.

      • momo

        Hey, somebody has to make money on the deal. High risk agriculutre import/export (i.e. drugs) have a high profit margin.

      • Feargy852

        Yes that is true, however while the American authorities practice a zero tolerance on drugs at home, the CIA are doing what they have always been good at !! i.e trafficking drugs in huge consignments right across Europe !! Basically Afghanistan today is to Europe what Laos and Vietnam were to American in the 50′s, and 60′s.

      • momo

        Did I forget to mention the feds are hypocrites?

    • http://www.facebook.com/kent.perry.7 Kent Perry

      Depends on what you mean by winning. The fact is, OUR standards fo winning the wars we fight, have this asinine Marshal Plan atached to it. In otherwords, when we bomb a Mosque, our tax payers pay up to build a new one. When we bomb infrastructure, Dams Bridges, etc, we pay to re-build them. But the most IDIOTIC part of our foreign policy is called “Regime Change” or spreading democracy. This encompasses a MASSIVE effort on the part of our soldiers who, by and large are not equipped to be social workers and trained killers simultaneuosly. Their is so much that makes NO sense at all and why we have anything to do with that place when we don’t even buy our oil from there, Ill never know.

  • Donnie

    If anyone thinks Obama does anything for the good of America, just consider this fact:
    Barrack Hussein Obama and Osama Bin Ladin both had very close friends that bombed the Pentagon.

  • Feargy852

    Truth be known the orchestrators of 9/11 and the pentagon are still in the Administration

  • http://none Carter

    The The Mandsanto Corporation(the ethenol in your gas tank) is taking over land from Iraq s farmers.One of the former? lobbiest for Mansanto is in the white house.Smoke and mirrors.One World Govt.The only enemies are the Banks,big business and socialist Govt.s divide and conquer,and they get rich.

    • Feargy852

      It is so refreshing to see somebody who sees things exactly for what they are !! All these shouts of Liberty and Freedom are simply hogwash !! The real reasons for American invading any foreign territory is solely based on GREED !!!

  • Seeker1212

    You can’t win wars if you’re concerned about Collateral Damage..!! If we enter into a war or military conflict with any nation, then it should be with a clear objective of accomplishing the established goals, or this country should not enter into the conflict.

    The rules of engagement set by this country, “are [expletive deleted] on the battle field”. The rules should be comparable to the rules of the combatant that our soldiers are sent to battle.

    If this country is forced into a war in the Middle East, then the rules of engagement should be based on the beliefs and ideology of the Muslim culture. Muslims are barbarians, wither they are moderate or radical, no type of mutilation is too severe, as long as it’s done to their perceived enemies,

    These people don’t fear death, the greatest fear of the Muslim is being beheaded, as it prevents them from finding their way to heaven, therefore every Muslim combatant, dead or alive, should be beheaded, and their head not left with the body.

    • Feargy852

      Can you tell me honestly what is the War about ? what is the real reason for this onslaught ?

      • momo

        So somebody can make money.

      • http://none Charlie

        Feargy852,,,
        The current war is just a continuation of the age old war started way back with Esau and Jacob
        see Genesis chapter 27, 28 for the beginning… IF,,,you have no ,or little interest in the history book called The Holy Bible,,,then you will never figure out the historical dates and reasoning of why all past and present wars have happened and are happening … Know The History Book and know History , because The Victor , King Jesus Christ ,had The History Book Written…
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        • http://gravatar.com/124andmore MikeR

          Charlie: Have you ever read anything other than the bible? Your knowledge seems to be very limited.

      • eddie47d

        Yes Charlie but God gave man the ability to think for himself and to be able to turn his destiny around.The Bible doesn’t tell us we have to have war and certainly not for envy,greed or profits.

      • http://none Charlie

        eddy47d,,,
        Your comment shows your ignorance of The King of America,,,What did King Jesus say at Matthew 10 :34,, also see what The Commander said at Luke 19:27…
        Heathen , repent or perish ,,,Acts 2:38 or out the gate………. Meanwhile,,,,,,,,,,,
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

      • eddie47d

        Then you better start repenting and get America out of those wars. Those verses don’t change a thing I said.

  • Honestly

    This is exactly my belief of Obama and his administration. These things did not happen during the Bush administration. Please do not misunderstand me. I did not agree with everything Bush did either, but at least he did not apologize for our country, nor did he need to. We could hold our head up, but now Obama’s desire to destroy our country is what this is about….See 2016…Obama’s America. A real eye opener, if you want to really see.

  • oldgringo

    No need for the US to be there in the first place….No need for us to do any killing’s…..These Rag Heads do a good job of killing each other…..So why bother…..There is no way we can fit our ideals of Democracy into their way of thinking which has been inbread into their lives for centuries…..Forget it…..Bring the Troops home and give em a job….If there are any left in this Country!

  • Feargy852

    You make reference to American ideals of Democracy !! Give me your definition of ‘Democracy’ ?? Then look closer to home at the constant erosion of Democracy and liberty in America today !!

  • http://jvarner9142@yahoo.com John

    Interesting. We are training their Islamic citizens who hate and kill us to protect their Islamic citizens who hate and kill us. Ever wonder why the Russkies got out? They left it to the stupid Americans. Bring our troops home to train us to protect ourselves against all the Muslims Obama is letting into the country.

  • dalene44

    The pentagon and Obama administration seem to be advocates for the Muslims. They also seem racist as I’ve seen very few African Americans in uniform except on the Hawaiian base when Obama went there several years ago.

  • Feargy852

    God you really are missing the real issue !! The issue is not that they are Muslims and that you most likely are Christians !! The people in charge will always turn things about so you believe that it has all to do with religious beliefs, this suits their cause perfectly. I just wish you would wake up and use the brain you were gifted with. Do your own research and stop believing every single thing you are told by your administration and more so by your media machine. Fear is the greatest tool that any country can use against its own people, and as it stands Americans have allowed themselves to be Scared of other religions and for no good reason except that they believe everything they are been fed by the people in power. I am a Christian, I reside in Ireland, however I have lived in a few middle eastern countries. I found them to be very peaceful and loving people and they certainly loved to discuss and share ideas. All religions are fundamentally the same and teach the same basic message. However it is only when extremist fundamentalists get involved and twist the religious teachings that serious issues can result. These extremist fundamentalists exist in the Christian realm also on that point do not delude yourself. If a foreign force were to land in America in the morning claiming that they were there for for the sole purpose of instilling there beliefs and so called democratic values, how would you feel about this ? If factions within America revolted against this presence and in particular to the measures and methods been used by this foreign force who you be in agreement with the revolting groups ?? I suspect very well you would !! Now, put yourself in the shoes of any Muslim who has to live under these exact same circumstances ! Are you beginning to see the real picture ?? Please do not delude yourself by thinking that your Army is in these countries out of any noble ideal to bring Democracy there. Your Army is been used in a major plot simply to invade countries that have huge resources of oil and gas. There is no other reason, it is all about the capture of natural resources around the globe. It is however somewhat ironic,as alternatives power sources have been readily available for decades and whats more most of this power could be obtained freely. This leads to another issue and that is why are these alternatives are not readily available to the public ? The answer is very simple ! it is because the people in control of the oil want to exhaust all avenues in order to reap the profits from whatever oil or gas that remains on our planet. The reason for wars have never changed over the centuries, and those reasons have always revolved around ‘Greed’. People in America need to wake up and see the true reasons for why their Military in is foreign lands !!

    • mad as hell

      you got that right.

      • Feargy852

        I am glad to see you agree with my point ‘Mad As Hell’ : )

  • Feargy852

    Ohh for Gods sake man get your head out of your ass !! Most Army recruitment centers are located in areas of deprivation across America !! Where do you suspect most of these recruitment offices exist ? Yes thats right, in predominately Black areas, then Spanish American areas.

    • momo

      There are poor white people too. Unfortunately the poor always fight the rich man’s war.

  • Ronald White

    “Islamic sensitivity training.” OK ! We give Muslims’ the right to have their house of
    worship here in the USA. Top that for “Islamic sensitivity ”
    Now if these cowards who shoot us in the back while we are training them to fight for
    their own freedoms, Lets make a glass parking lot out of their [expletive deleted] country.
    Bring my grandsons home. Go Marines Come home.

  • Jimbo

    Stop calling them “The Elites”! That is true only in THEIR minds.

    Remember when Bush senior stationed US troops in Saudi Arabia in preparation for the liberation of Kuwait? His administration told our troops they could not display Christian religious medals for the campaign! So even while we are spilling American blood, liberating Muslim countries, we are not allowed to practice OUR religions and customs?! It’s INSANE! Our Founding Fathers died to give us our liberty. They must be rolling over in their graves knowing our troops have to surrender those freedoms and die for people who don’t respect us.

    It should be made clear to our Muslim “friends” that they can either respect our freedoms, or give up our aid (financial and/or military). Ditto Muslims planning on visiting our country or settling here. They should swear an oath to uphold our constitutional freedoms.

    • Feargy852

      Muslims are not and were never the issue, plus they have always respected your rights and freedoms. Now maybe I missed something ! bu who exactly invaded whose country ? Ohh that right America invaded Iraq then Afghanistan. They probably had a lot to do with the DE-stabilization of Libya and Syria also, after all both situations stank of CIA black ops. American troop invading other countries has damn all to do with American Liberty except for the fact that you seem to take a lot of liberties going into other countries to take their oil and gas.

  • http://NA Hank

    Mark & Feargy, you two are so mis-informed is it laughable. I have worked with the Afghan people for 8+ years & no I am not in the military. The Russian were defeated by Afghans that were supplied weapons by the US. Watch Charlie Wilson’s War one time, although it is NOT 100% factual it is more close to history than either of you have any idea actual history of Afghanistan.
    The majority of Afghans, the Pastuns, Dari, & Farshi’s are all in favor of ridding their country of the Taliban. Many are progressive & educated to know that the world moves forward with technology, education, and economical bases. Many had their taste of freedom before the Taliban took over their country. They were then invaded bu Pakistani Taliba and other foreign fighters to once again put the Afghan people hostages in their own country.Being a tribal & third world country, they did not have the infrastructure, government, or nationalistic cohesion to fight off the Taliban. The Afghans will tell you they would go to war in a minute to fight Pakistan who has harbored the Taliban & that use and demand the Pakistani rupee in Afghanistan for solid currency.

    Being a third world country of course involves vast corruption at all levels of a young & struggling government. The tribal areas outside major cities has little or no support from the federal government & is distrustful of it. This is where the regional constrution teams hiring local contractors are building schools, wells, and power stations with assistance from the various countries, 47 of them including China who is busy locking up the mineral & mining righs….NOT the USA.

    By the way did any of ytou know that China controls 90%+ of the world precious metals?
    Do you know that the Obama administration has made a deal with China who holds 1.3 trillion dollars of USA debt so they can buy US banks now? Do you know that the Bank of London now deals in Chinese currency? It is not the USA other Muslim countries should be concerned about. All countries should be concerned abouy China. The USA
    is NOT here grabbing up any of of the gas, oil, or mineral rights.

    The dis-information you people are being fed by the main stream press & some guy or woman posts on it is all unbelievable.

    The world is NOT what you are being force fed!

    • http://none Charlie

      Hank,,,
      Some very valid points,,,but,,,tell us ,what China’s relation ship to The Bible is??? Also where is China and / or The USA called out in The Bible??? Meanwhile,,,
      Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

    • Feargy852

      You are correct in your evaluation that China basically owns America today, this is a result of buying up so much of America’s Debt !! However, consider for one moment what do you think that America can offer China today ? What is America’s strongest asset ? Is it not its Military power and capability !! So it is fair to assume then that China would seek to use America’s Military for their own purpose am I correct ?? Well then take the Iraq conflict into consideration ok ! Who do you suppose got the majority stake in the oil fields after the conflict was more or concluded ?? Bingo, you got it in one, ‘CHINA’ !!

    • Feargy852

      There is nothing that you have said Hank that I do not disagree with ok. But what gave America any right to interfere in Afghanistan in any way whatsoever ?? ohh yeah the cock and bull story of Osama Bin Laden I forgot about that !! Have you ever heard of a contries right to self determination ?? Let Afghanistan create its own future not the future that America or any other western power wish to impose there. Plus how do you account for all the military bases located along the oil pipelines now.

    • letitsnow1

      sort of right, but it will be china and the muslims together that will try to take control of the world……………

  • g

    I say this is just another Vietnam and when Americans get tired of the fact that nothing has really changed in over 10 years of our being there then they will push for the useless killing of American soldiers to stop. When we leave it will be just like when we left Vietnam, nothing really changed. The real story why we are there is greed for money and power as so many have said and sorry to say so many people are killed not for protecting the USA but for making the elitists safe in their cushy homes richer.
    Even here in the USA we are being ripped off of our Constitutional rights by the same greedy SOBs who made the TSA bs. I think Americans should just say my religion says I can not subject my body to your grubby hands and eyes like the Muslims do. But then again our country has separation of church and state so we can not practice our religion here.. What a fricken joke the TSA is just like it’s inventors.

  • http://facebook.com kahuna

    To end all issues, why don’t we just turn over the “Producer of the video” that cause up rising toward our “Soldiers and Americans” to a MUSLIN country. His doing caused anger blaming America because he’s living in shelter of our laws.
    Furthermore cut off Foreign Aide to the countries that say the uprising is justified. The innocent will suffer this action, however one or couple rotten apples will decay an entire bushel.
    Bring all our troops back home, kick the U.N. our of New York, close consulates in those countries and beef up our borders. Monies saved doing this should go back to citizens that pay taxes.
    As for the Middle East? Let Isreal do their thing, they did great during the three day war back in the 60′s. They may do it in one day if they had their way.

    • michaeljbeglinjr

      I’m with you on all points except one. There is no way whatsoever that the producer of this video deserves punishment. He has every right to say what he likes. That is the whole point. America should not give up its right to Free Speech just because some muslim gets his feelings hurt. Or even if ALL of them get their feelings hurt. Disrespecting a “religion’s” prophet is NEVER an acceptable excuse to kill another person. Never.

      We need more people to produce similar videos, maybe with mohammed naked in a strip club? Better yet, mohammed as a stripper! Or mohammed eating a pork chop, wiping his fingers on a prayer rug during ramadan.

      Muslims neither deserve nor merit any special treatment for their superstitious beliefs.

    • letitsnow1

      agree with most of what you say, but the vedio did not cause the attacks , it’s the way of the terriost and obuma knew about it before hand. doesn’t that make you think, it’s what he wanted and why?

  • michaeljbeglinjr

    This is not the first time the government has tried to blame our troops for its failed policies.
    Our troops are being ordered to train their killers. I wouldn’t be too thrilled with that job, myself.

    It is way past time that the muslims need to go through Civilization Training. They need to be taught to respect other religions besides islam. They need to be taught that non-muslims are human beings, and deserve to be treated with respect. They need to be taught that tribalism ended centuries ago in the non-stagnated, non-islamic world. That region will never have effective governance until tribalism is ended. I would be happy to see islam enter at least the twentieth century. I would be amazed if they could enter the twenty-first.

    American troops are NOT the ones that need more training. Obama is the Neville Chamberlain of our time. I am sick of an administration that continues to encourage islam, to the detriment of our Constitution and our rights. The administration needs to take that list of rules and shove it.

    • letitsnow1

      so dam true!

  • Carl Manning – Sic Semper Tyrannis

    Perhaps, it’s time they admit that 9/11 was a cruelly sick hoax they played on the American People with the help of the MSM, the CIA, Saudi Intelligence, Pakistani Intelligence, and the Mossad. Perhaps, it’s time they admit that they are secretly funding the homemade terrorist organization they created for the Soviet war in Afghanistan known as “al Qaeda” to keep the war going killing our innocent young men over nothing but a manufactured lie and a manufactured war to go along with it.

    • Carl Manning – Sic Semper Tyrannis
    • Carl Manning – Sic Semper Tyrannis

      I am ex-military myself, so please understand where I am coming from when I say tell your sons and daughters, relatives, nieces, nephews, uncles, aunts, and friends and even acquaintances and every one you meet on the street to get OUT of the US military NOW. Our troops are being slaughtered and maimed for nothing more than the sick LIE of 9/11. They are not protecting us from “terrorists”; they are being used to perpetuate profits and help Israel, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia surround Iran by killing off many innocent Muslims. This is not honorable; in fact, it is downright evil and un-Christian.

      • http://gravatar.com/124andmore MikeR

        Sic: I don’t believe that you are ex-military. You are a muslim.

        • Feargy852

          I am inclined to agree with you that your brave servicemen/women are nothing mote than food for fodder or lambs to the slaughter in an exercise that accomplished nothing whatsoever except to line the pockets of those at the top, i.e company executives and policy makers.

  • Mike

    Romney and Obama are both exactly the same on almost every issue, imperialism, abortion, amnesty, open borders.
    How can any of you stick up for Romney? He was just on telemundo telling all the mexicans he’ll give them amnesty and free college while our kids have to pay. ROMNEY=COMMIE the rhyming is not a coincidence.

    you are believing campaign promises (lies). Take a look at the truth, his record of things he has done in the past. Things like Romneycare, support of open border amnesty etc. Romney is the second biggest commie in America right after Obama.
    You are all just voting party and the lesser of 2 evils. If you want anyone to believe anything you say, tell the truth, for example – Romney not as big of a turd/traitor as Obama.
    The only non RINO the republican party had was Ron Paul, if you idolize Romney either one you believe his words and never looked at his record or two are a closet commie (a RINO) compared to out in the open commies (Dems). Lets be honest here, all of you “anyone except Ron Paul people” are the reason we are stuck with a RINO. Why? Why? Why? If you claim to be conservative then how come you didn’t support the only real conservative candidate for president? No one trusts the republican party for a reason RINO’s, every last backfire that has destroyed conservative image is because of RINO’s like BUSH, McCAIN and ROMNEY.

  • John

    Our men and women have had their lives on the line some as many as six and seven tours through no choice of their own which is more than any of the wars we have been in so if one wishes to put blame on our troops then I say look no lower than our top Brass to include Senate and Congress after all we do take our orders from them, our military does not start Wars. Our men and women have done a wounderfull job and need to be commended for it. When they come home welcome them home properly, not the way we did our Vietnam Vets, remember they are over there protecting our freedom.
    Retired U.S. Army Vietnam Veteran Lest We Forget.

    • Feargy852

      Protecting What Freedom ??? What have any of these countries ever done to America……. Nothing whatsoever !!!! Also American’s have very little freedoms today in their own country. The bogus so called war on terror was really only an excuse to set up organizations such as F.E.M.A which when you scrutinize you will see has already eroded American Freedom and Liberty to a massive extent !! Most people I think realize that the wars are all a sham and a lie and on that note soldiers too have a conscience and know the truth from the lie. If they choose to partake in a lie then they must settle this score with their own conscience. To partake in a war which is propagated by a lie is the same as a soldier carrying out an unlawful order especially if that soldier knows the war is all a lie. The bottom line is that the choice is done to the individual. I think one of your own in history demonstrated this point. Possibly one of the greatest heavy weight boxers of all time ‘ Mohamed Ali’ refused to partake in WW2. Now there a real man of Conscience !! I do realize though that so many soldiers go where they are told to go and do not have the intellectual ability to make an informed choice. This sadly is down to lack of education and this is one of the primary reasons why many of the military recruitment centers are set up in areas of mass deprivation. Most Americans who support the war on Muslims do so simply because they were told Muslims carried out the 9/11 attacks !! To believe this story is a kin to believing in the tooth fairy. All the evidence is there to see for yourselves yet you choose not to accept the truth !! The truth is way outside your comfort zone and is a bitter pill to swallow and as such it will cause most Americans to question the very fundamentals of their great nation !! The reasons for America’s conflicts has never had anything to do with Muslims or any other ethnic group, it is simply economics driven and the real goal has always been the natural resources in the countries for which America invades. Next on the list is Iran, yet another country with vast supplies of oil, but here again American troops will be sent to war on yet another lie.

      • Carl Manning – Sic Semper Tyrannis

        War with Iran will start WWIII, and it will be NUCLEAR. It will bring massive bloodshed and invasion by the Russian and Chinese troops to America for the sins of our leaders after they blow us to Kingdom Come with nuclear warheads. This is the price of continuing to elect ignorant, unprincipled “leaders” who refuse to question the official government LIES like 9/11 Steel Twin Tower skyscrapers were brought down by jet fuel, Oswald killed Kennedy, TWA Flight 800 was brought down by a fuel leak, FBI Murrah Building was brought down by a truck full of Ammonium Nitrate, Vince Foster committed suicide, Ron Brown died in a plane crash, Senator Paul Wellstone died in a plane crash, the DC Madam Jeannette Palfrey committed suicide, the Apollo missions actually walked on the Moon, Osama bin Laden was murdered by SEAL team 6, and Obama presented a legitimate Birth Certificate and SSN because his birth was published in a Hawaiian newspaper. This is your federal government: a cesspool of lies and fairytales, and they’re counting on you being stupid and lazy enough to believe their incessant bullmanure. Their lies are now catching up with them. Our enemies are preparing for invasion when these crazy Neocon/Israeli idiots attack Iran. You get what you vote for. God gave you a legitimate candidate for President, and many of you bit His hand off. That man was Ron Paul. Now, we must suffer the grave consequences of that decision.

  • Carl Manning – Sic Semper Tyrannis

    The only war any of us should be supporting is the ongoing war against the District of Criminals!!! THAT is America’s biggest enemy of all!!!

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