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Bailing Out Obama: The Federal Reserve’s New Mandate

January 19, 2011 by  

Bailing Out Obama: The Federal Reserve’s New Mandate

“Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?” (“Who watches the watchmen?”)

The Federal Reserve is a traitor to the American people and the nation it has sworn to protect. Recently, the Fed has acted less like a central bank and more like President Barack Obama’s personal piggybank. The Fed seems hell-bent on re-electing Obama for a second term regardless of what it costs.

How is the Fed doing this? By creating trillions of new dollars to re-flate a U.S. economy that is fundamentally flawed by the unprecedented spending of a President and Congress.

The Federal Reserve’s recklessness — orchestrated by Chairman Ben Bernanke — is putting at risk the savings of every American. His actions are straightforward — to create trillions in new aggregate dollars, making each existing dollar able to purchase less.

The central aim of America’s central bank seems simple: Hold together the economy until Obama is re-elected in November 2012. This month the Fed began a second round of quantitative easing, or QE2. This second round of cash creation is meant to jump-start the economy and silence Obama’s critics who complain he hasn’t engineered his promised recovery.

In December the Fed exceeded its authority for the first time when it began purchasing $600 billion in U.S. Treasury securities. Besides flooding the world with fresh money, Bernanke announced in January that he wants to keep interest rates low so the fledgling recovery can fly.

According to Forbes, the Fed’s actions have drawn opposition around the world.

“China, Russia, Brazil, Germany and the U.K. all believe that it will seriously weaken the dollar, possibly forcing other countries to devalue their own currencies and impose more trade restrictions against the U.S. Brazil and other emerging economies also fear that by loosening credit, the Fed could cause new destabilizing asset bubbles abroad.”

Forbes doesn’t point out that none of this is in the Fed’s charter. Instead the job of the Federal Reserve is to faithfully manage the economy and create stability for world markets.

I stumbled upon one of my old textbooks which said: “One of the statutory goals of the Federal Reserve System is to ensure stable prices. This goal can only be achieved if the public believes that the Federal Reserve is taking effective measures to ensure them.”

That is how the Fed is supposed to operate. Created in 1913, the Federal Reserve System had two prime directives: “The dollar over the President; the economy over the Party.”

And for nearly a century the Federal Reserve followed that code of conduct. It was through such actions that the Fed helped establish American economic dominance.

Even after President Franklin D. Roosevelt made it so citizens could not redeem dollars for gold, there have been extended periods when Americans trusted in the dollar more than they trusted gold. Consider President Ronald Reagan’s two terms and the decade that followed. During most of those years, Paul Volcker was Chairman of the Federal Reserve. The result was that between January 1980 and June 1999, the price of gold fell from $850 per ounce to $253 per ounce.

But that was a different era. Today the Federal Reserve and its Chairman no longer hold sacred protecting the purchasing power of the dollar. The once-independent Fed now seems intent on serving the President and promoting his economic policies.

Of course, Bernanke has been a loyal public servant to two Presidents. He was first appointed by President George W. Bush in the winter of 2006. Then Obama re-appointed him. Over those five years Bernanke has used every power at the Fed’s disposal to pump up the U.S. economy, even though it has delivered a devastating bear market for the greenback.

In a short statement given in Martha’s Vineyard in August 2009 with Bernanke at his side, Obama lauded the Fed chief’s “temperament, courage and creativity.” It was these personal characteristics, said Obama, that had helped Bernanke navigate America out of a Great Depression.

President Obama left out the one characteristic that Bernanke seems to have in spades — loyalty. Only loyalty can explain why Bernanke has been playing fast and loose with interest rates while initiating monetary policies that have spawned hundreds of billions of dollars in fresh new money.

Bernanke certainly has more than his share of critics. During his second Senate confirmation, 70 Senators voted in favor of Bernanke, but 30 voted against him. That was the narrowest margin by which a Fed chairman was ever won a nomination.

Still, Obama and many members of his administration applaud Bernanke. As long as he can keep the Chinese lending and investors from balking on Big Board stocks, Bernanke can help Obama be re-elected.

But holding the economy together won’t be easy. The Chinese and other foreign investors are growing restless about throwing money into U.S. Treasuries — those pesky bonds Washington needs to keep selling every week just to stay in business. Meanwhile, people like Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas) are not turning a blind eye to Bernanke.

According to Paul: "There is something fishy about the head of the world’s most powerful government bureaucracy, one that is involved in a full-time counterfeiting operation to sustain monopolistic financial cartels, and the world’s most powerful central planner, who sets the price of money worldwide, proclaiming the glories of capitalism.”

And there is more to this than just Paul’s opinion. There is hard evidence that the United States — under the leadership of Obama and his loyal lieutenant, Bernanke — is headed for an inflationary maelstrom. Fueled by the Fed’s program of quantitative easing, MZM money supply has soared $475 billion in the past six months. This is the money the Fed lends to the banks which is then lent out at a multiple. That is why MZM is sometimes referred to as super-money, and can be a catalyst in creating inflation.

Another broad measure of money, M2, has also been rising at an alarming rate, as you can see in the chart below.

That the Fed is pushing such rapid monetary growth may underscore just how frightened Federal Reserve Governors are that we will see a double-dip recession, perhaps even a full-fledged depression. But remember, the Fed is supposed to be worried about protecting the integrity of the dollar. It appears instead that the Fed wants to protect itself along with the rest of the Ruling Elite.

More than 150 banks shut their doors last year. Five-hundred banks could close this year. The Federal Reserve will do whatever it takes to see that doesn’t happen, the dollar be damned.

One final thought — it is probably premature to celebrate the eviction of Obama from the White House in two years as much as we might like to. There are a lot of powers at work, the Federal Reserve included, that will be working to ensure the status quo.

Yours in good times and bad,

John Myers
Myers’ Energy and Gold Report

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • JeffH

    In June 2009, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke ,a cousin to the Rothschilds, promised Congress that the Fed would not monetize U.S. government debt. Now that is exactly what the Federal Reserve is doing. According to former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, the unelected Federal Reserve is actually accountable to nobody.
    According to Greenspan, nobody in the U.S. government can overrule anything that the Federal Reserve does which, if true, would put the Federal Reserve above the law.

    We are headed for an absolute economic disaster, and the Federal Reserve is leading the way. Anyone who claims that there are not legitimate reasons to audit and abolish the Federal Reserve just does not get it.

    • TIME

      Jeff,
      As you & I both know drinking from the “Bottle of Stupid” has become a common factor with the mass’s of Tellie EwE’s.
      My God ~ Regis will get more hits on his retirement than the Fed being audited. Whats that say about our culture?

      Its strange how we can tell people over and over the same things and they just can’t get it, its somehow just too easy to float on that Twinkie in the sky with that soft glove over that STEEL HAND.
      Oh what will they do when that STEEL hand is exposed for what it really is?

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Time:

        They will come pounding on the doors people who paid attention and prepared. They will demand we help them / take care of them. They will perish, as will many of us who were ready.

      • DaveH

        Nero fiddles while Rome burns.

      • Angel

        Some of us DO get it!

        • http://none LindyMaeUSA

          I “got it!” a long time ago while 98% of the “Sheeple” were more interested in “drinking the Koolaid!” than accepting the TRUTH! So be it!

          • BigBadJohn

            Ya I agree too bad those sheeple reelected Bush even though it was clear he was trying to bankrupt america….

            How do you think we paid for Bush’s tax cuts and Bush’s two illegal wars – The fed simply printed the money

            Pot calling the Kettle Black

          • JC

            BBJ…so, while no one in the above posts mentioned Obama, or even the Democrats…you come out firing at Bush. Are the libbies really that brainwashed that they repeat the same tired old talking points even when they are completely irrelevant. I didn’t like Bush either, but I have to ask…
            What pot is calling what kettle black?

          • John Woodbury

            Thanks, JC my reply would have much less well stated. We need to get rid of the freaking leaches and leach feeders. If I hear one more b—h say Bush’s illegal wars, I am going hit hyper write. The freaking Democrates could have stopped both, but they did not. While Iraq was not needed, in hindsight; what would you have us done about Osama Ben Laiden and the Talaban, just saying ”OH, you naughty boys”, just does not cut it. Well, all you guys have fun in America I live in China where, unless wacko NK goes off, I am safe.

          • Denniso

            There’s that word again from people like John Meyers…’traitor’. That’s not true or helpful to the country to be calling people or institutions ‘traitor’. That’s how we keep the hate and vitriol going and I guess that’s what Meyers and most here want to do,even after the Tucson blood bath. It’s a little more than hyperbolic to use words like that, it’s dangerous for the society and country.

            The Fed is doing exactly what they are supposed to do, keep the economy running and reduce unemployment. They are not political and function independently. You rightwingers are just terrified that the economy is improving and w/ it Obama’s chances for re election. Too bad for you guys,but we aren’t going to watch the economy stay sluggish just so you can defeat Obama in 2 yrs. Grow up and pitch in to help improve the economy and the country.

          • JC

            Denniso, you’re right. We shouldn’t be calling Obama a traitor as it is an improper use of the word. He’d have to be an American to be a traitor wouldn’t he? I prefer the term enemy combatant or imposter to describe him. :)

            And you had to bring up Tucson didn’t you?

            Here’s a little background on the lunatic that did the shooting that the Liberal left media doesn’t mention:

            MEDIA USES TUCSON TRAGEDY TO PUSH ANTI-GUN AGENDA

            Moments after Jared Loughner went on a shooting rampage at a Tucson grocery store on January 8th, media pundits began trying to blame conservatives for the attack (even though Loughner was a mentally ill anarchist who listed The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf as two of his favorite books).

            First, the media and the political talking heads said it was because of our “rhetoric.” When that didn’t work, they started blaming gun laws.

            They are escalating their attacks on gun rights, hoping to push their Liberal agenda in the wake of this horrible tragedy that killed six innocent people and injured thirteen.

            Remember, it was Obama’s former Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel who famously said during the banking meltdown, “You don’t ever want a crisis to go to waste; it’s an opportunity to do important things that you would otherwise avoid.”

            Here is their crisis: a 22 year-old cultish pothead with an Obama bumper sticker on his car, wielding a gun in a parking lot at a Tucson-area grocery store. Oops… the leftwing media forgot to report about the Obama bumper sticker on Lougner’s car even though several of his neighbors told them. Because, minus the bumper sticker, this was just the crisis they needed to silence their conservative critics and take away our Second Amendment rights. They have labeled you the enemy because you believe in the Constitution and cherish the right to own a gun. Surprisingly, so does the woman Loughner targeted—Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords. She is a staunch gun-rights advocate. Was she the enemy, too?

            Alan M. Gottlieb
            Chairman
            Second Amendment Foundation

          • JC

            John Woodbury, I would not care to pick an argument with you over Bin laden and his part in things…I would like to point out that the Bin Laden’s and Bush’s have been friend for many years and that they jointly own The Carlyle Group…a munitions distributor. Do you think the wars are hurting them?

            Also, I don’t for a minute believe one tiny bit of the “official” 911 story. Too much of it makes no sense at all when closely examined and most of it flies in the face of physics and science.

          • Kyle Butler

            The problem is that people of insufficient intelligence and education have a tendency to make opinions about topics the have not researched. The Federal Reserve was instituted to regulate the economy, keep the value of the U.S. dollar high, and to stop executive or government interference in private sector financial affairs. The U.S. dollar is the “world’s reserve currency”. Many international commodities, such as oil, have their value based on the U.S. dollar.
            The dilema we face is that “The Fed is” NOT “doing exactly what they are supposed do”. Unemployment statistics are gathered only by the amount of peope filing for unemployment. It does not include all the principled individuals who go right out to pursue other employment. So the real unemployment rate is above 13%, and the economy is steadily plummeting. The continuous printing of Fiat money(unbacked currency) brings an increasing decline in the value of the U.S. dollar. The U.S. dollar lost 11% of its value at the end of 2010 and continues to decline. The U.S government is the largest debtor in the world. They owe more money than can ever be paid, and do not receive enough revenue to even pay the interest on their debt. As soon as the debt holders, such as China, stops accepting the U.S. dollar as payment, our currency will rapidly devalue and hyperinflation will insue. Pity the citizens dependent on government programs for their income. Beware citizens who keep their money in banks because in the event of a financial crisis the government will freeze all financial transactions that the FDIC insures.
            A for Obama, a re-election seems unfathomable. He will defeat himself, and so will every future president elected as long as they use the Federal Reserve as their own personal trust fund. I like to stay independent of the political machine and the parties responsible for the financial chaos plaguing this once great nation, the only legitimate candidate to the presidency is Texas senator Ron Paul(aka Dr. No). This lone senator understands that the legislatures responsibility lies not only to its constituents, but to limit the amount of bills passed into laws and regulations in their sessions. Limited government as was originally intended. The concept of checks and balances, personal accountability, and moral obligation has been lost to the majority of our so called representatives. That is why the “Tea Party” movement has gained increasing numbers and political influence. It is an earnest effort but about a half a century too late. There are too many corrupt politicians in both parties, influenced special interests, to repeal all the laws and regulations it would take to put our economy and our nation back on the right path. I’d like to be optimistic about the future, but I am a realist. The declining trend of the economy and the U.S. dollar, not to mention the ever increasing bureaucracy and unconscienable actions by the power brokers in Washington have started this country on a self destructive course that apathetic Americans simply do not wish to see. The Founding Fathers would be appalled by our lack of direct action. Our personal liberties are constantly being extinguished and if the freedom loving citizens of this country wait to long before making a pro-active stance it will be too late for all of us.

          • Denniso

            You’re blinded by partisanship or hatred…the dollar is stab;e compared to all other currencies,and that is what matters. The economy has been improving for a year and most of the stock market losses have been recovered.

            Obama gets relected by 5 points in 2012…get used to it because he’s not going anywhere. You get to hve a black president for another 4 yrs.

          • Denniso

            stable…

          • Kyle Butler

            Your petty if not in depth response was enlightening. I can see by your expansive explanation that you cleared up my misconceptions on all the intricate topics I covered. You are blinded by your ignorance and your own opinion. The fact that your response involved hatred as a motivation for my response shows exactly how militant you are. I never blamed or condemned Obama for anything. I simply stated an obvious conclusion to an ongoing situation that an educated 9 year old could see. In actuality, it seems that with your argumentative tone, you prefer to blame everyone who doesn’t agree with your highly factual opinions. Besides, you never included in your response a statement rebutting the facts about the true responsibility of the Federal Reserve, Fiat money, the U.S. debt, or limited government. If you know anything about the stock market, then you’ll know that as the value of the dolar goes down the cost of gold and precious metals go up; basic economics. That trend has been obvious for years; not to mention the currency exchange. The stimulus money that was given to the states has already been used on their budgets. They have created more work not more jobs. State employees have benefited greatly from the stimulus, most noticably State Highway workers,but average working people have lost out. It is not hard to see why a person of your vast intellect would think jobs were being created. Just for your information, Obama is mulatto not black, but don’t worry your ignorance is secured for posterity.

          • denniso

            Sorry, I didn’t see much ‘intricate detail’ in your comment. I also said,’blind partisanship OR hatred’…so if you claim to not be an obama hater then we’ll leave it as blind partisanship.

            Nothing Obama has done,other than the stupid health insurance mandates,has taken us further down the path of tyranny. Loosing freedoms? You can nail Shrub for that w/ the illegal surveilance of citizens and more. Spending a trillion on the drug plan for seniors is also Shrub’s idea. Cutting taxes on the wealthiest and impacting the debt by another trillion you can also lay on Bush.
            The ramped up drug war that has cost us a trillion over 30 yrs was Reagan’s idea, and lead to more of a police state as well.

            Obama inherited the worst economy since the Depression and has had to spend money to stabilize it. It appears to be working, and if he hadn’t done it you would be calling for his head for leaving the economy to it’s own devices. Sure we have a larger debt now,but there was essentially no choice…every economist said so.

    • Sharon Mancuso

      You expected something different? Not I,its status Quote

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      Well done JeffH, as always! :)

    • Lewis Munn

      Sounds like Germany pre-WW2, all over again. Do we collectively never learn, or are our money managers deliberately trying to sink our nation for their own purposes?

      But my wood stove also will burn bales of fake money, if/when it comes to that!! Just like Germany!

      Only problem is I bet the government inflates the money but not my SS payment, so I will never have bushels of money to burn. I will get a death doctor with a lethal injection ready so I no longer burden the economy! Or tell my children and grandchildren how it really was in the good old days compared to now!

      Might have to cut down my trees to keep warm! That cares for next winter! After that…2012-and-froze-to-death.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        I’m hearin that Lewis. It costs our Daughter $80 a week to keep gas in the car just to go to work.
        -_We have a woodstove too. Haven’t used oil in a while now. I light her at 6 in the morning. Keeps it a cozy 75 degrees, and at night the temp only goes down to 70 degrees.

        • Lewis Munn

          Glad for you and your stove.

          When it is 30 below out up here, it takes electric heaters AND the stove to keep even this semi-earth-sheltered house warm! And the electric company says the new regulations will raise my electric bills by 400% in the next couple years!

          Not getting easier to live with all the modern “improvements” in this country.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            I know how it is Lewis. If I might make a suggestion, if you have older windows?__I bought a bunch of black blankets at Walmart,$3 each. Sewed them up as curtains, weight the bottoms of them in the hems. You’d be surprised how much cold air they keep out.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Lewis, I also use Kerosene lamps, they create a little heat too! :)

          • HFlashman

            Lewis…did you expect your electric company to say rates will go up because they need to pay executive bonuses ? Of course they’ll blme in on new regs. If they regs were being wiped out, they’d blame it on deregulation. If nothing changed, they’d blame it on nothing changing. C’mon…..

          • Granny Mae

            Lewis Munn,

            I can sympathize with you. My electric bill this past month was $400.00 and that is here in Florida ! Obama said our electric bill would necessarily soar. I guess so! What are the elderly to do? I guess we should all take that end of life counceling he say’s we should get ! Let me tell you this, his people are at this very moment working like crazy to make sure he gets elected next time and they may just succeed. People get tired of hearing all this and begin to turn a deaf ear and that is what his people are hoping for. This tragedy in Arizona has become a boone to Obama. Not that he wanted it to happen but his people will never let a tragedy go to waste. The speach writers gave him the best speach he has had and he practiced on how to deliver it and he succeeded, even the people that have had nothing good to say about him had everything good to say about him on that one ! That may not seem like much to most people but in the Obama camp it was everything and you can bet from now on he will ride that wave forever. Suddenly hearts have softened toward him and he will move to the middle all the more. Not that , that is where he wants to be but it is where he needs to be to win in the next election. After his win it will be business as usual and he will not move to the middle again because he doesn’t have to. People don’t be fooled by this man in the next 24 months. He is going to play you like a fiddle ! We need to find the best person for the presidency now and get behind him 100% and put everything we have in that person. Remember Obama has all the money of the unions behind him along with Soros and many others! Don’t be fooled by one or two acts of kindness, it is an act !

          • Denniso

            There are no new regulations that are to blame for elec rates going up. Cap and trade never even got voted on. If you don’t know by now,the utilities raise their rates as often and as much as they can get away with,just as insurance companies do…it’s called ‘free enterprise’. Sellers charge what the market will bear and that means as much as they can get. Most utilities are near monopolies,which is why we have gov’t agencies watching them,but the regulators don’t have much power and don’t want to get in the way of supply and demand and so called market forces.

          • Granny Mae

            Denniso

            In this state the prices of electricity go up when the cost of fuel goes up and it has really gone up here this past month. Obama has had everything to do with that !

        • Richard Pawley

          It’s wonderful if you have some acreage and can grow your own wood. I heat with propane and it’s 62 at night and 70 during the day. Science has proven that’s it healthier and you sleep better if it’s around 60+ at night. A towel or night cap over your head will keep 90% of your body heat from escaping during the night too. Our ancestors knew that but we have mostly forgotten.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Richard, to be quite honest,I like a little cooler_ so I let the fire die down a while in the afternoon__and then kick it up little by lil and then high around 9, then the temp holds at around 70 til morning. I take care of my Grandkids so I keep a lil’ warmer for them too.

          • kate8

            Wow, you guys. I never let my house get over 63 deg. during the day, and nights I turn down the heat to around 50 deg. Of course, we dress warm, but if it gets warmer than this we’re roasting.

            I always find it funny how, during the summer, temps in the 60s feels great, but in the winter it’s too cold.

            Curious.

          • Granny Mae

            Kate8,

            I haven’t had temps that low in years. I have nerve damage in my leg and foot and when it get the least bit cool my leg gets to hurting to where there is nothing you can do to stop it except to warm it up ! It is a royal pain in the neck ! The rest of me is quite comfortable and still the leg is hurting ! I even wear heavy sweat pants in the summer and cover my one leg with a blanket when the air conditioning is on ! I hate that but what are you going to do? I never dreamed I would one day wear heavy sweat pants in the summer in Florida ! I am just as uncomfortable in the summer as I am in the winter. What a bummer ! I’ll get over it though ! LOL !

      • Jeff

        Not if you move to Brownsville, Texas. They have warm winters there.

        • Belcara

          Brownsville,
          Soon to have no drinkable water. Bloom where you are planted.

          Bel

      • JUKEBOX

        The lethal injection is Obama’s version of the gas showers, but much more covert. It’s the old boiling frog syndrome!

        • BigBadJohn
          • Robert Berry

            Big John…Are you still talking?…Best you just shut up and let everyone think you’re a fool than to just keep talking and take away any possible doubt….. George Soros boast of his control over Obama and the DNC then states..Quote by Soros: America is in the way of Globalism and I will do what ever it takes to bring America to her knees…..George Soros also stated… Quote: I will give up all my money to get rid of George Bush….(As it is Soros spent 23 million to discredit George Bush. See: Whistleblower Mag Dec 2010)… Big John…You’re in good company if …you think Soros is a good guy.

          • JC

            BBJ, no he’s from Kenya. :)

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            If it looks like a turd, and smells like a turd, and walks like a turd and talks like a turd, then you can bet its a turd. Nice post turd.

    • HFlashman

      JeffH;

      First, to make it clear, I am not a fan of Bernanke. Never have been. What he did immediately following his appointment by BushII had far reaching effects which tied up options if we hit a financial crisis … which we ultimately have. Then came TARP I and his failure to a) see the meltdown coming; b) take action before it reached meltdown stages; c) not have a plan togther in case of meltdown; and d) gave away the keys to the vault without having concessions.

      Does the FED need reform/ Absolutely. As it stands, Bernanke cannot be removed. Which may or may not be a good thing. It certainly should be debated amongst policy makers. Reagan had his battles with Volker…where Volker was vilified by the Right, but which in the end resulted in Volker being proven correct. So the question would be…should a FED Chairman be subject to political gamesmanship and subhject to removal by political fiat?

      As to the current situation, what Bernanke is attempting is to prevent another Japan-type stagnation. When Japan ht the economic/monetary skids in the early 90′s, they did the tried and true monetary policy which was dictated by ‘the book’…and which sent that economy into a 10 year period of economic stagnation in which it remains in a semi state thereof even today.

      Bernanke studied that situation. Fact being, he made his name in his analysis of the period and in suggesting alternative paths Japan could have followed.

      Today? What Bernanke faces is beyond anyting this world has faced since th 30′s…and anything he tries will be subject to debate and criticism since it is untried in any period of history. The conditions present cannot be put in any “box”. ANY policy would be an experiment. Bush and the GOP have placed us in unprecedented times concerning an economy wracked by recession on all fronts, a world which also went into a tailspin at the same time, and a world wide financial system depependent as never before in an overall integrated operation.

      To be fair to bernanke, he has to also take into effect monetary policies from around the world as well as the US policy. Also to e fair toBernake, had the Bush/GOP regime not went and had to unfunded wars and also gave away the cash to the wealthy in the beginning of th e Bush/Cheney cabal…we would have been much better placed today. They stripped the vault, handed out blank checks, privatized proft and socialized debt…and screwed us without even using Vaseline to ease the pain.

      We don’t know what is going to occur as Bernanke’s policies mature. There are way too many variables at work to make any prediction. Anyone who tries is merely guessing. What we do know for certain is that had Bernanke followed traditional monetary theory to combat the Bush?GOP Recession…we would either be in a complete full blown world wide Depression or entering a period of decades long stagnation ala’ Japan.

      • LiarsMustBeDefeated

        You don’t know what the effect of Bernanke’s policies will be? To bad for you.

        • HFlashman

          Nope..I proffer no one does. If you claim you do…then according to your name, you must be defeated.

          • Vicki

            One of Bernaki’s policies has an obvious and well known effect. Whenever you dramatically increase the supply of ANYTHING without increasing the demand the VALUE goes down. This equation works on every possible transaction. Including Money.

          • Steve

            Here’s a newsFLASH for you. He’s destroying the value of the dollar. Now considering that the dollar has depreciated by 97% since the FED was created and is currently in a state of rapid depreciation I think we’ll soon see the time where the dollar is worth 1 cent of what it was when the FED was created. Hello??? So if you have worked hard enough to have some dollars then they are not going to be worth nearly as much. If you don’t have any dollars then I guess it’s no big deal to just vote again for Obama and whoever wants to be in charge at the FED is ok. Also, you types always forget that the Dems have been in charge of Congress for 6 years. Blaming Bush for all of our problems makes you look partisan and stupid.

      • Dave M

        @ H Flashman

        The Fed’s problem is fairly fundamental and universal due to the nature of fractional reserve banking. What is finaly unfolding started before Obama ever was born so he wasn’t and isn’t the problem.

        What I take umbrage to is the fact he apointed the architects of this disaster to oversee the fiscal policy of the US. The trillions of dollars that were created were used to backstop bad debt. The future generations of citizens will pay for the careless lending practices of banks and debtors who in any other circumstance would have gone bankrupt.

        The fed socialized the debt [to the taxpayer], yet privatized the profit of the banks. Four out of five dollars of stimulus money ended up offshore due to the fact most consumer goods are made off shore.

        We would have been better off to let the “too big to fail” simply fail. The best case scenario will be, as you pointed out, a Japanese style stagflation. The worst case scenario is ever increasing inflation with an eventual collapse anyway.

        • Suzette

          I agree – they should have let what could have happened happen and then dealt with that.

        • Steve

          That’s right LET THEM FAIL!

          LET CORRUPT BUSINESS FAIL!
          LET CORRUPT GOVERNMENTS FAIL!
          LET BUSINESSES RUN WRECKLESSLY FAIL!
          LET GOVERNMENTS RUN WRECKLESSLY FAIL!

          It’s like borrowing money to give to a junkie. You are STUPID if you do it.

        • JC

          Thomas Sowell: Federal Reserve a ‘Cancer’

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp3HEBNvZjk&feature=player_embedded

        • JC

          Even Ralph Nader is getting on board with the End the Fed movement.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYXVD7uBU2s

      • DaveH

        It’s interesting that Flashman blames Bush for TARP but by omission absolves the Democratic Controlled Congress:
        http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/l/bl_party_division_2.htm

        Anybody, who has put the study time in, knows that the current meltdown was caused by the easy money policies of the Federal Reserve and by coercive pressure put on banks by Politicians (mostly Democrats) to lend to uncreditworthy borrowers:
        http://mises.org/daily/3130

        • DaveH

          Usually, comments with two links haven’t been published. So I broke it up into two seperate comments. Then lo and behold this one appears.
          Sorry about that.

        • HFlashman

          yo Dave…think back. TARP was put together then ramrodded through in less than 48 hours. Paulsen was Treas. Secretary and was given authority by Congress to make the deal. He didn’t deal, he just wrote blank checks without putting conditions on.

          Had he done with TARP I what was done with TARP II (putting conditions on the money), my guess is we wouldn’t have given away half of what TARP handed out for free.

          One issue whcih is stalling any recovery is the banks refusing to ease credit restrictions. Why should they? They know full well and legislation on that will be stoppd by their paid GOP lackeys in Congress and the Party of NO.

          Obama has called for easing of credit restrictions from Day 1…and the banks, now havng the cash given by Paulsen under TARP I are snubbing us. And the banks know that with the Party of No bought and paid for they can ignore any pleas to help Americans.

      • DaveH

        It’s interesting that Flashman blames Bush for TARP but by omission absolves the Democratic Controlled Congress:
        http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/l/bl_party_division_2.htm

        Anybody, who has put the study time in, knows that the current meltdown was caused by the easy money policies of the Federal Reserve and by coercive pressure put on banks by Politicians (mostly Democrats) to lend to uncreditworthy borrowers:

        • DaveH
          • Dave M

            @Dave H,

            I am pleased to see there are more followers of the Austrian school of economics on this site. If more people would educate themselves, like you have done, the world would not be in this perpetual mess of booms and busts.

            Fractional reserve banking and the welfare/warfare state have a symbiotic relationship, one is not possible without the other. If you deny the banking cartel the ability to control money they become a toothless tiger. That is why they, the Fed, are so fearfull of a 100% reserve requirement on demand deposits and or a gold standard.

        • DaveH

          Read Thomas Sowell’s book “The Housing Boom and Bust”. You won’t? What, are you racist?
          http://reason.org/news/show/the-housing-boom-and-bust

        • herman richardson

          I want some of what you are smoking!!

          • Vicki

            He provided links. Go forth and become elucidated.

          • DaveH

            Lol. I’m not smoking. In fact, I don’t drink, smoke, or do drugs. I am high on life and knowledge. However, Herman, I do champion your right to put whatever you want in your own body.

          • Dave M

            @ Herman,

            Why not educate yourself a little herman. The links he is providing are not some radical right-wing diatribe.

          • JC

            Stick to your pills herman. Smoking is bad for you. ;)

      • JJ

        Never in the history of the world has printing money been beneficial. It will lead to only one thing, Inflation. I can’t help but believe that this is not an intentional attack against the US money system, because no fool in his right mind would do what these people are doing. This problem is not that complicated. The only reason that it looks complicated is because these people want to keep doing business as usual and fix the problem. That’s impossible. I don’t know why the US thinks that we are so great that we can do things and make them work that nobody else in the history of mankind has ever been able to do. i.e. Socialism and printing money to pay our bills.

        • DaveH

          No Fool in his right mind? Well, not everybody is being foolish. The people in power and the rich (those who know how to profit from inflation) will benefit. The rest of us be damned.
          Government benefits greatly from inflation. It (inflation) forces people into higher tax brackets (more money for Government) and allows the Government to pay off past debt with cheaper dollars.
          The Rich can buy up depressed property from the masses (using the leverage of borrowed money), hold it for a while until the inflation rears its ugly head, then sell it later for a big profit to the masses who by that time are rushing in again to be sheared. You know — Buy High and Sell Low, something the masses do well.
          Note that I am not damning the Rich for that. Why not make a profit if the rest of us are too ignorant to invest wisely?
          It’s time we change that equation. Get Educated. Learn how to protect yourself from Government Folly, and hopefully end the Government Folly by voting out the rascals.
          Vote Libertarian!

          • kate8

            DaveH – One thing I find very interesting regarding the AZ incident. No where except in European news has it been reported that Judge Roll had just 72 hours prior ruled against Obama’s attempt to confiscate our senior’s retirement funds.

            Did anyone even know that he was moving forward on this already? And what happens now that an obstacle (Judge Roll) has been removed? Why hasn’t anyone been talking about this push to steal people’s retirement savings? Why has it been kept quiet until it’s a done deal? Are we now wide open to lose our retirement to gov’t confiscation?

            How much more is moving forward that we should know about?

          • DaveH

            Kate,
            It has been going on for a long while. Fortunately, so far, they haven’t been able to get the numbers together to do it.
            I warned people about tax deferred savings accounts 30 years ago. I told them that what “Caesar giveth, Caesar can taketh away”. The best way to insure against that is to not allow Government to have any strings in your savings.
            One time, I explained a scenario where the Government could confiscate our savings without any overt action by inflation like they had in Argentina in the 1980s. One guy (who I didn’t know) overheard my conversation and replied “That can’t happen here in the United States!”. OooKaay.

          • kate8

            DaveH – I knew Obama had talked about it, but you’d think someone, somewhere would have mentioned it was happening now. But not a single mention from anyone in media.

            With all the lip-flappin’ about transparency coming from this WH, it’s more apparent with every move he makes that secrecy prevails. Everything he does is intended to further strap and degrade the citizenry, and take all we’ve worked a lifetime to build.

            He isn’t even bothering to deny it anymore.

      • DENNIS

        STOP BASHING BUSH,,, HE CALLED FOR INVESTIGATIONS INTO THE FANNIE MAE FREDDIE MAC PROBLEMS YEARS BEFORE IT HIT,,, THE DEMS SAID, “ALL IS WELL” AND DID NOT ALLOW BUSH TO DO ANYTHING. THAT HAS BEEN COVERED UP/FORGOTTEN BY THE LEFT. I HAVE HEARD THE WORDS FROM BUSH’S MOUTH ABOUT LOOKING INTO THE PROBLEM AND HEARD YOUR BOY LOLIPOP FROM MASS. CLAIMING ALL WAS WELL. AND THE BIGGEST RECIPIENTS OF CAMPAIGN DONATIONS FROM FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC, WERE TWO DEMOCRATS, ONE NOW OUT OF OFFICE AND NUMBER 2 IS OBAMA. THAT IS ALSO FORGOTTEN/COVERED UP BY THE LIBERAL MEDIA. IF THE DEMS HAD NOT FORCED THE BANKS TO LOAN TO ANYONE THAT WANTED A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE THEY COULD NOT AFFORD, THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED… NOW, WE WILL ALL STARVE THANKS TO THE MUSLIM ILLEGAL ALIEN IN THE WHITE HOUSE. AND THE GOV. OF HAWAII HAS STATED HE CANNOT FIND THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE ! WILL WONDERS NEVER CEASE !! YOU CAN’T FIND SOMETHING THAT DOESN’T EXIST !!! MAKES YOU GO HHHMMMM

        • herman richardson

          I think you and bush ie baby must be kin folks-something I sure would not claim

          • Vicki

            I think Herman should look up argumentum ad hominem.

        • Vicki

          Evidence to support Dennis’s assertions
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Herman? Herman??? (chirp, chirp, chirp)

        • Dave M

          @ Dennis,

          Seriously Dennis it wouldn’t matter much whether it was a Republican or a Dem in the Whitehouse when it comes to economic policy. The only possible candidate for President, at the moment, who seems to have a grasp of macroeconomics is Ron Paul.

          The whole system is rigged by various cartels be it Big Pharma, insurance, banking ect.

          You should investigate the theories of the Libertarian movement.

      • Pat R

        When are you people going to wake up and face the facts? Washington is BROKE and can not be fixed! This government by the the UNITED STATES CORPORATION is doomed to failure and is 99.9% there now. The Federal Reserve belongs to IMF; as does the whole of Washington, DC.
        This whole issue is a “PLAN” that has been very well orchestrated to bring down America and the world to implement the NWO. This year will bring absolute Chaos and failure.
        People, we have only “one” chance to prevent the total collapse of the United States. Join the Republic and get involved with developing a government of, by, and for the people. Save this Country for our kids and grandkids!
        http://www.republicfortheunitedstates.org

      • Dan az

        Monetarists are neither supporters of socialism nor monopoly capitalism. They are instead supporters of the third way – the free market system – which opposes both aforesaid forms of economic totalitarianism. Friedman was a monetarist and a strong supporter of the free market system (even in the educational system by supporting use of school vouchers).

        In the current economic setting, Freidman’s writings suggest that cutting spending to reduce the fiscal deficit would result in less transitional unemployment than raising taxes to do so. In other words, the solutions proposed by the Bush and Obama administrations of massive government intervention in the markets will prolong unemployment compared to reducing government spending (which is diverting national resources away from productive industry).

    • chick

      maybe you haven’t noticed, but the entire goverment listen’t to no one. they are running amuck,and no one want’s to stop it or don’t know how.. I knew before he was elected,the Obummer was going to be bad for the counrty,guess I was right.. vote this jerk out

      • Robert

        Reports from Hawaii govener can not locate a birth certificate, only can find papers filed by obama’s grandparent statint that he was born. not proof he is even eligable!

      • DaveH

        Obama is just the tip of the iceberg. People need to quit blaming the Presidents for everything and start paying much more attention to the Congressmen they elect.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          DaveH, Especially if they knew just how lil’ say Presidents really have, It’s mostly all Congress that call the shots and of course the elites.

          • taxpayer

            Angel, if the president has so little power, how did he hire so many czars, his cabinet, appoint judges, and the list goes on. He goes on tv and lies yet many believe him because he is the president. He can send troops in places we haven’t even heard of. He is protected from the law and can take trips anywhere he desires at taxpayer expense. As any single person in this country he has the most known power. as a group congress can do some things but they have to have a majority.

          • DaveH

            Because, Taxpayer, the Congress has been slowly (through lack of initiative) been ceding their power to the president over the decades. They could take it back if they wanted to.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            taxpayer_ if the President had as much power as you say, he’d be King Obama.–Although He thinks he is right now.

          • BigBadJohn

            Angel you are delusional – Have you forgotten about all of Bush’s “signing statements”?

            Basically they stated that he would not honor clauses that he did not agree with EVEN THOUGH BOTH THE CONGRESS AND THE SENATE APPROVED THEM.

            Bush Grabbed a TON of presidential power and Obama inherited it.

          • JC

            Taxpayer, Because the hiring of those czars was a further perversion of our government, and that’s just A-OK with the gangsters over at the Fed.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            bbj and your delusional if you think the Obamanites are STILL going by the Constitution, He and his band of Merry thieves have made mockery of it_get a life!

      • herman richardson

        in your airless mind that would do what?? You could not find an honest government official if your life depended on it, and by the way it does

    • Dr. Mabuse

      “According to Greenspan, nobody in the U.S. government can overrule anything that the Federal Reserve does which, if true, would put the Federal Reserve above the law.” Aye lad, and therein lies the rub…
      Either we as a nation are going to have rule of law (and this applies from immigration policies to white collar criminals) Or, we’re not.
      Just consider… who would you place under citizen’s arrest for a violation of Federal or State statute law? It appears that our appointed law enforcement officials lack the huevos to enforce establihed law, so where does that leave the rest of us?
      As far the Fed goes, I like what Andrew Jackson did.

    • Wanda Murline

      The bankers of America, the elists of America and a lot of foreign bankers worked very hard to have a “one bank”…for years they have manipulated the economy of America and are solely responsible for a lot of the money crises (depressions) we have had…1807, 1873, 1929, and yes, 2008. Even though the Federal Reserve was not actually implemented until the early 1900′s…you will notice they did not name themselves a bank (because the people were not fond of banks), these elists and foreign bankers have been screwing with our economy for over a decade…it started under Hamilton. The Federal Reserve is a monopoly as it has no competition, therefore, for that reason alone, it should be disassembled and put to rest.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      JeffH:

      Well said. Bravo!

      The Fed is a confusing and murky entity: by design.

    • EddieW

      The dollar is going to collapse!! Many foreign banks will no longer even accept the dollar in payment!! China is getting out of it, and once it loses it status as Reserve Currency…which is in the procceess right now, we will end up like Yugoslavia, a loaf of bread that cost 1.00 within a month went to 1 TRILLION dollars!! So Food first, then junk silver,NOT collector coins! (easier to spend) then gold to protect yourself and family!!!

    • JAFO

      http://www.soveriegn.freeservers.com/rothschild.htm

      Copy and Paste above link for why the name “Rothchild” is significant… Note also the time and political situation at the moment “Big Ben” was appointed and confirmed…

    • Dan az

      Under the gold standard, governments that print too much paper money risk runs on their gold reserves. Runs occur as holders of the paper seek to convert to gold before the vaults are empty. A run on the dollar is what happened in the late 1960s, which culminated in President Richard Nixon closing the gold window in 1971.

      “Closing the gold window” is a euphemism for the U.S. defaulting on its promise to other countries to redeem dollars for gold. As an alternative, Nixon could have devalued the dollar and continued to redeem. In effect, he chose a one hundred percent devaluation, a de facto default on the promise to redeem.

      In the 34 years before Nixon closed the gold window, the money supply in the U.S. grew less than two fold. In the 34 years after Nixon’s action, the money supply expanded 13 fold and the Fed Reserve has taken the US gold.

      • BigBadJohn

        Well Said.

        Now finish the story – between Reagan and GW Bush they increased the national debt close to 600%

        • Steve

          If you are going to point fingers don’t forget that dick with ears in the white house.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Question I have is, as I dont know, is with the Chinese pushing to basically have their money recognized more, and getting away from the use of the US dollar, how would this monetary shift affect the fed? Would it take their power away? Would it make them take steps to fortify our dollar? Or are they involved with the Chinese money also? Let me know what you think about this please, as you appear to be pretty knowledgable on this, and Im not.

  • Vicki

    John Myers (The OP) writes:
    “The Federal Reserve is a traitor to the American people and the nation it has sworn to protect.”

    When did the reserve or any of its people swear to protect the American People? Just curious. I hadn’t seen it.

    • MJ Montana

      Good point. I found this:

      Feb 2 2006
      Ben S. Bernanke on Wednesday became the fourteenth Chairman of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Chairman of the Federal Open Market Committee, succeeding Alan Greenspan. The oath of office was administered in the Board Room at 9:00 a.m. by Vice Chairman Roger W. Ferguson, Jr.

      I cannot find however what the exact oath the took. Does anyone know?

      • chick

        honor and do what you are told buy higher up’s.. the big money people

      • Disgusted

        The only oath I could find that he is required to take is as follows:

        The law applicable to the Chairman and all other members of the Board provides (in part):

        No member of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System shall be an officer or director of any bank, banking institution, trust company, or Federal Reserve bank or hold stock in any bank, banking institution, or trust company; and before entering upon his duties as a member of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System he shall certify under oath that he has complied with this requirement, and such certification shall be filed with the secretary of the Board.

  • JeffH

    Bernanke came out in strong opposition to the Federal Reserve Sunshine Act of 2009, proposed by Ron Paul. The pending legislation calls for a full auditing of the Federal Reserve Bank. Bernanke argues that audits would compromise ‘independence,’ seeking to deny legislative victory for the Fed’s leading opponent, Congressman Ron Paul.

    Speaking to the House Financial Services Committee on July 21, 2009, Bernanke spoke of the ‘threat’ of audit-reviews: “Because government reviews may be initiated at the request of members of Congress, the threat of reviews could be seen as efforts to try to influence monetary policy decisions.”

    Bernanke argues that the Fed is already allowing audits of its operations. But many, like Ron Paul, contend that the current audits do NOT provide a full disclosure of the Fed’s secret activities. The sham auditing system presently in use, provides for an outside auditor RETAINED by the Fed’s own Board of Governors, as well as an internal in-house examination conducted by the Fed’s Board itself.

    The current law disallows auditing of three areas: 1) Transactions the Federal Reserve makes with international financing organizations 2) Deliberations and decisions of monetary policy 3) Transactions made by the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC).

    The FOMC is a component of the Federal Reserve Bank, charged with overseeing the nation’s open market operations, that is, buying and selling: government bonds, foreign currency, and gold. Members of the FMOC include, Bernanke, Kohn, and Rosengred (Boston Federal Reserve).

    Methinks It’s iime to unseat The Elite Banksters in power like Bernanke & “End Their Stranglehold On Our Lives Once And For All”.

    • chick

      I for one, would love to see someone like ron paul get into the white house, maybe they could make the hard choices to shut down all this spending the goverment is doing…

    • kate8
      • JeffH

        kate8, I was checking the links to this website yesterday also.

        [International Bankers-Fed Res]Cartel capitalism has enjoyed a long standing love affair with communism, as the late Gary Allen so eloquently pointed out.

        “If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth program, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of superrich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all,” Allen wrote. “Instead it becomes the logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs. Communism, or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite.”

        Hu Jintao did not arrive here to eat dinner in the the Old Family Dining Room at the White House and talk shop with Obama the teleprompter reader and his Goldman Sachs, CFR, Trilateral Commission, and Bilderberg advisors.

        • Vicki

          The popular communist sound byte
          “From each according to his abilities, to each according to his need” says it all for those who can read and comprehend English.

          Everyone will work as hard as his abilities will allow
          Everyone will be given ONLY what they truly NEED.
          Humans have a way overblown sense of need.

          Air, water, food (not fancy), protection from the elements (most any cage will do).

          Some elite must enforce the simple rule.

          Communism is clearly a system of wealth concentration in the hands of some “elite”.

          I offer as evidence every “communist” government since the invention of the word.

          • Dan az

            If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks…will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered…. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. – Thomas Jefferson in the debate over the Re-charter of the Bank Bill (1809)

          • patrick H.T. paine

            “To conquer, first divide!”

            That popular rendering of communist ideology carries no defining
            standard regarding the evaluation of ability/need……..it requires
            an assumption, and the one that is most common, is the one you
            have made……..maximum ability in return for satisfying minimum
            need. Contrary to your claim regarding the obvious comprehension
            of the implied meaning, if it were in fact obvious, your interpretation would not have been necessary.

            If we approach this at the simplest level using the physical requirements for mechanical work ( physical labor ), the more
            work performed, the more energy required…….

            The description, as stated, is value neutral…..similar to
            whether one views a glass….as either half empty, or half full….
            in terms of quantification……there is, in fact, no difference.

            What is more significant is the ease with which these assumptions
            are suggested and maintained…….in spite of the simple analysis
            required to invalidate them………

            It is strange from a historical perspective that “communism”
            ( marxism ) rejected religion……”godless communists”…..
            when from a moral or human value perspective, they share similarly
            stated “ideals”……..so much so that one would have thought, the
            two would have been natural allies.

            It would seem, in the end that “idealism” of any sort, is confounded
            by human nature itself……so whatever ideals “communism” was
            intended to achieve…….the reality of the result is probably
            best expressed by the following: “They pretend to pay us and we
            pretend to work.” I submit to you, that any system which attempted
            to “validate” your assumed equivilancy of maximum effort in
            exchange for minimal return, would inevitably fail, no matter
            what “economic label” it claimed, as defining it.

          • Vicki

            patrick H.T. paine writes:
            “That popular rendering of communist ideology carries no defining
            standard regarding the evaluation of ability/need……..it requires
            an assumption, and the one that is most common, is the one you
            have made……..maximum ability in return for satisfying minimum
            need.”

            Hardly an assumption on my part. Merely the ability to read and understand English will do.

            patrick H.T. paine writes:
            “Contrary to your claim regarding the obvious comprehension
            of the implied meaning, if it were in fact obvious, your interpretation would not have been necessary.”

            The meaning is obvious. However years of brainwashing (or soft living?) has convinced many people that they “need” a lot of things that they actually do not need.

          • patrick H.T. paine

            “To conquer, first divide!”

            Not to belabor the point, but it is you who are providing both the
            values attached to abilities and needs, and it would seem to be
            a knee jerk ( brainwashed ) reaction to the word: communism.

            You further confuse this, by contradicting your minimum need in exchange for maximum ability, by suggesting that (those in charge)
            are creating artificial need ( unneccessary want ) to further their goals…….which sounds suspiciously like consumerism.

            No communist attempt ( claimed? as in the Soviet Union ) even came
            close to satisfying basic needs, let alone managed to provide
            anything that resembled western consumerism, and the elites in
            this case, were simply political and ruled through the power of
            the gun. ( military and police ). What people wanted ( desired )
            was provided by the black market.

            The “elites” you seem to be referring to, are the capitalist ( free
            market but not really ) one’s, who have control indirectly, by
            corrupting government, and by this indirect method, control the
            military……and yes, mindless consumerism is encouraged, as is
            debt.

            I don’t believe it is useful to suggest that this is “communism”, since it distracts from the point that you ARE trying to make……

            Yes, there are elites that are benefiting from what exists and we can
            certainly expect them to continue to try maintain this condition for
            as long as possible……..( even if in the end, they are equally
            doomed by the result )

            But the cause of the reality we are confronted with is based on
            an assumption which is no longer sustainable……..infinite growth.
            For this assumption to be true, would require infinite energy…..
            and the reality that such a source of energy in not available, but
            also that the energy we rely on is diminishing, is beginning to
            assert itself.

            If you have access to Netflix, you might want to watch the documentary, Collapse…….or rent it on DVD. ( you have glimpsed
            a piece of the problem, but communism has little to do with it….
            and the “elites”, bankers, corrupted politicians and corporations,
            do not have the skill sets or the motivational understanding of
            their own self destruction, to initiate actions to mitigate the
            reality of the future we are facing. )

    • Dan az

      One of the most ungodly and fraudulent institutions ever perpetrated on the American people and the world, is the Federal Reserve System which through deceit became the central bank of the United States in 1913. The idea came about on a meeting in Jekyll Island off the coast of Georgia in 1910. The bankers in this country, especially J.P. Morgan, created a currency panic in 1907 in order to get the American people to accept the idea of a central bank.

      A central bank already existed in England from as far back as 1694. The Rothschilds completely dominate the banking system. It is estimated their wealth goes into the trillions.

      Baron Nathan Mayer Rothschild boasted:

      • “I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets. The man that controls Britain’s money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply.”

      The idea of a central bank is to so enslave the people of the country to a debt money system that you continue to collect taxes continuously which just covers the interest. The duped people of the United States are paying about $400 billion dollars per year to the IRS which is the collection agency for the Federal Reserve. By the way, the Federal Reserve is a privately owned bank with 10 private members. The Chase Manhattan Bank is a member which is owned by the Rockefellers who are Rothschild Agents. I will list the ten member banks at the end of this article..

      • JeffH

        Dan az, always good information. This info has been posted on more that one occasion yet needs to be continually posted so that those that fail to grasp the evil intentions of the “elite” international banksters headed by the Rothschilds will understand why the world is so war torn and economically screwed up and who is actually controlling the “history”.
        Keep it coming…

  • http://foundersrevolution.blogspot.com/ Patriot1776

    I am still stammering on the ridiculous assertion that the Federal Reserve is responsible for the economic success of our Union! We are an economic power due to liberty, and free markets IN SPITE of the falicy of central economic planning!!! The fact that we are collapsing is not due to some derailment of the Fed’s intended objectives, it is because liberty and free markets are almost non-existant in our modern era of centralized government and centralized economic planning! The Fed and the government have created so much regulation and malinvestment (not to mention insurmountable debt) that is has to come crashing down at some point. And that time is here.

    • http://foundersrevolution.blogspot.com/ Patriot1776

      fallacy

    • Lewis Munn

      Agreed.

      We have seen this happen all over, when greed and secrecy override and overrule good fiscal policy.

      But since we do not vote these people in, we cannot dispose of them by vote.

      • Wanda Murline

        I things don’t change, we are going to have a full fledged revolution in this country. When that happens Berneke would be wise to get out of town along with a lot of others in power. Never underestimate the power of the people…the King of England did that, and that provided us with a free Republic that has lasted over 200 years, and it will continue to last even if we have to take down the current regime. Our forefathers gave us that authority…they even stated that it was our “responsibility” to take down any tyranical government that does not represent We The People. I think we have one right now, and it is going to be interesting when they finally drop the last straw on the camel’s back…unrest is coming, get prepared for it.

        • DaveH
          • Vicki

            Darn that “free press” thing. It’s uncovering all those secrets.

            Secrets protect the Guilty.

          • JeffH

            Imagine that?

        • Pat R

          Wanda:
          We have not lived in a free republic since the 1860′s; before the War.
          The UNITED STATES CORPORATION was started in 1871, and has acted like our government ever since. All of our governments; federal, state, and local are separate Corporations. All of our Courts are Corporations for Profit. Each court in this country has a Dunn & Bradstreet. Usually the Judge in each is a member of the board of it’s own Corporation. Justice is not served in these courts.
          Your Birth Certificate even has a Dunn & Bradstreet Number and is openly traded on the stock markets. To the Corporations, we are known as “Human Capital”, otherwise, just cattle. They own us lock, stock and barrel. We are the collateral for the massive debt that the UNITED STATES CORPORATION owes. Plus the land, of course.

          http://www.republicfortheunitedstates.org

        • Dan az

          Woodrow Wilson signed the 1913 Federal Reserve Act. A few years later he wrote: I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men. -Woodrow Wilson

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            You said a load when you pointed out to the “being controlled by credit”. Romans 13:8 tells us, “let no debt be unpaid”. We are a nation in debt. Even some churches go in debt to build and expand, which is totally against God’s word. Just another aspect of this country going against God’s word. Until we get this right, we are bound to fail. Thats just how it is. If one looks around, they will find this to be true.

    • Bob

      you hit the nail on the head.

    • JJ

      Amen

    • Dan az

      Her is a little history on the puppet masters!
      In 1773, a wealthy goldsmith and coin dealer named Mayer Amschel Bauer (1743-1812) summoned 12 wealthy and influential men to his place of business in Frankfurt, Germany. His purpose for the meeting was to impress upon these men that if they pooled their resources, it was possible to gain control of the wealth, natural resources, and manpower of the entire world. He then outlined a 25 point plan on how to accomplish it.

      The plan was put into operation and evidentiary information exists that Bauer aligned himself with Adam Weishaupt who was the founder of the Illuminati whose aim was and still is world domination. Bauer later changed his name to Rothschild which means “red shield.” He took it from the red sign which hung outside his place of business. The eagle was clutching 5 golden arrows in its claws. It was supposed to symbolize his five sons. Presently the red shield represents the official coat of arms of the city of Frankfurt, Germany.

      Later on each of the five sons were dispatched to a major city in Europe to establish a branch of the Rothschild banking firm.

      Son #1 – Amschel – Remained in Frankfurt and propelled Germany to financial success under Bismarck.

      Son #2 – Salomon – Went to Vienna, Austria. he became a leader in the Austria-Hungary Empire.

      Son #3 – Nathan Mayer – Went to England where he took control of the Bank of England.

      Son #4 – Carl – Went to Naples where he became the most powerful man in Italy through his banking skills.

      Son #5 – James Jacob – Went to Paris where he established the central bank. He was credited with dominating the financial destiny of the nation of France.

      By 1850, the House of Rothschild represented more wealth than all the families of Europe. Shortly after he formed the Bank of England, William Patterson lost control of it to Nathan Rothschild and here is how he did it:

      • Nathan Rothschild was an observer on the day the Duke of Wellington defeated Napoleon at Waterloo, Belgium. He knew that with this information he could make a fortune. He later paid a sailor a big fee to take him across the English Channel in bad weather. The news of Napoleon’s defeat would take a while to hit England. When Nathan arrived in London, he began selling securities and bonds in a panic. The other investors were deceived into believing that Napoleon won the war and was eyeing England so they began to sell their securities too. What they were unaware of is that Rothschild’s agents were buying all the securities that were being sold in panic. In one day, the Rothschild fortune grew by one million pounds. They literally bought control of England for a few cents on the dollar. The same way the Rockefeller’s went into Japan after World War 2 and bought everything 10 cents on the dollar. SONY=Standard Oil New York, a Rockefeller Company.

    • JC

      Amen Patriot. That’s exactly right.

  • James

    A traitor? Really? Maybe you didn’t get the word seeing as how your office is in Canada–but Americans are trying to move past overblown cartoon descriptions of policies that we don’t agree with.

    Additionally-the only reason given for this “traitorous” conduct is loyalty? The President only nominates the Chair and Vice-Chair–both of their terms expire in 2014. Their terms on the Fed do not expire until 2020 and 2024 respectively. What–even if they could convince the other 4 members of the Fed to go along with this “traitorous” act is in it for them? The re-election of Obama? That seems to be a rather thin reason.

    I understand the disagreement with the practice of Quantitative Easing-but I think you should have more evidence before you brand someone a traitor. Like Nazi or Fascist–these terms should be reserved for those who truly deserve them.

    • Lewis Munn

      I have not called them traitors, tho evidence is building that their loyalties are not to the very best interests of the United States of America or its Citizens. Maybe good for the illegals?

      But the secrecy, and the policies that are debasing our currency are equally harmful whether they are branded traitorous, or just ill-advised and out-of-control.

      I wonder where the money is of those who excuse the policies that are ruining it for the rest of us? Are they buying US notes personally, or investing in gold with the idea of making a killing when the US collapses? Their own investments might tell a lot!! But I’ll bet they are as secret as Obama’s education!!

      • DaveH

        Lewis,
        He may be talking to John Myers.

      • Dan az

        In November of 1910, some of these vultures came together at the Jekyl Island Hunt Club on Jekyl Island, Georgia. What were they hunting? The biggest prize of all, the absolute and complete control of all the money in America which means control of all America and with it the power to make slaves of all the people.

        Those who attended were: Senator Nelson Aldrich (Nelson Rockefeller’s maternal grandfather); A. Piatt Andrew, Economist and Assistant Secretary of the Treasury; Frank Vanderlip, President of the National City Bank of New York; Henry P. Norton, President of Morgan’s First National Bank of New York; Paul Moritz Warburg, a German who was partner in the New York banking house of Kuhn, Loeb Co.; Benjamin Strong, an aid to J. P. Morgan.

        Paul Warburg was credited as the architect of the bill which was passed by Congress and signed by traitorous Woodrow Wilson. It was entitled the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. America once again had a central bank but this time they had placed America under an absolute dictatorship. President James Garfield had insight into this situation:

        • “It must be realized that whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolutely master of all industry commerce.”

        The Federal Reserve was incorporated in 1914 and has been creating a completely unnecessary national debt ever since. In simple terms, the Fed creates money as debt. They create money out of thin air by nothing more than a book entry. Whenever the members of the Fed make any loans, that debt money is our money supply.

        The United States went bankrupt in 1938 because of this system. It took the Fed only 25 years to bankrupt the USA. Can you imagine how little time it would take these vultures to bankrupt a developing nation? The American people are paying about $300 billion dollars a year in interest to this phony organization. When you look in the Washington, D.C. phone book, you will not find the Federal Reserve in the Government section as they are a private concern.

        The national debt is increased about $1.71 billion dollars every day (as of October 12, 2004) . Have you taken a look at your money? It says “Federal Reserve Note” which means it is an instrument of debt. There is no real money in circulation.

  • Sharon Mancuso

    Obama is Onutso!!!!!!

    • bob wire

      Hmm? not sure what that is? Animal, plant or mineral?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Its a Kenyan.

  • Richard

    Not only is the Obama administration destroying the economy of our country, he is adversely affecting the economies of the whole world! How did we get stuck with this dude in the White House? Answer: liberal voters. They are to blame.

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      Richard, answer, SOROS!

    • Eric Bischoff

      It’s always either us progressives or the illegal immigrants!

      God forbid conservatives, whose main purpose in life should be to balance the books but somehow never manage to, would ever take responsibility for anything.

      • Lewis Munn

        We cannot take responsibility for what we do not control, like the liberals planted all through the government.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          Right On, Lewis!

        • Kinetic1

          Lewis,
          Take a long hard look at history and you’ll find that the economy goes in cycles. Both the Dems and the Reps have had their good times and bad. President Obama came in at one of the worst and his administration is trying to find a way out of this mess. It’s easy to say that, like our own finances the answer is simply to cut spending and live within our means, but the national and world economies are a little more difficult than our own. If the White house began instituting all of the cuts thrown out there by the right, our system would take a huge hit. The Republicans in the House know this and continually make grand gestures but few solid proposals. Look at how they boasted about what they were going to do once the gained control of the house.
          “You’ll see the cut and grow playbook begin to take hold over next three weeks,” Cantor said. “We’re going to be about cutting spending and cutting the job killing regulations that this administration has been about over the last two years.”
          And now they are now backing down.
          “Once we get to the State of the Union I expect this president to put some action behind the words he’s been about,”
          Oh, we don’t have the power to do anything so we’ll just wait for the President to bring us HIS budget. Cantor won’t even commit to the 5% cuts to the Congressional budget that they promised last year. And even if they do move forward, that’s only 1/3 of the cuts recommended by Obama’s fiscal commission.

          I will say one thing for all these fiscal red flags being thrown around; The more we can keep people’s fear of economic tragedy growing, the more money speculators will make on their Gold investments.

          • DaveH

            You’re right about that, Kinetic. Both parties are to blame, but Democrats are quite a bit more spendy than Republicans.
            However, we need to quit putting our faith in either party.
            Vote Libertarian, for Individual Liberty, for Personal Responsibility, for Free Markets, and for Limited Government:
            http://libertarianparty.org/platform

          • Dan az

            For those unfamiliar with the BIS – it is the central bankers’ bank. It is above all governments, is exempt from the laws of its host country – Switzerland, and its regulations, which are adopted among its 53 member Central banks, become in effect part of the banking law of those nations without legislative approval (such as that of the US Congress). Yet they effect the economies of those member nations and that of the world, as we are still experiencing, a’ la Japan. The BIS is in most respects, when combined with the IMF (International Monetary Fund) and World Bank, a worldwide version of the US Federal Reserve System. Here is former JP Morgan Chase CEO Walter Shipl­ey on this point re the IMF:

        • Eric Bischoff

          We never had debt until Reagan came along,
          Why? because we taxed the rich, which by the way, only they can most afford it and it keeps them from going crazy speculating

          Then comes Reagan with Supply Side Economics
          Drop taxes on the rich you make more money
          deregulate make more money.
          They dropped taxes on rich from 74% to 28%
          Economy went into a tail spin
          92-93 recession The deficit exploded
          Reagan then doubled taxes on working people
          The largest tax hike ever on working people

          Well! how is that working out so far?

          Well the rich have definitely gotten much richer but we as in the rest of us and the Country are broke and deep in debt. Oh well blame it on Obama and Liberals!

          Keep believing that!

          • DaveH

            If you are talking about the rich (Crony Capitalists) who use Government as their bully boys to stifle their competition, I agree, it’s a problem. But how do the Crony Capitalists ply their trade? Big Government is how. As Government Grows, Corruption Flows. Look to Mexico for an example of that.
            In fact the poorest countries on this earth have the biggest governments per capita.
            You want to end Crony Capitalism? Then get Government out of the Marketplace. Remove their protection from competition. Let the consumers decide which companies succeed and which companies fail.

            What gets me is these pie-in-the-sky Progressives who are offering gasoline to put out the fire. They keep whining that we need more government. It gets bigger. Problems continue and even grow. Then the solution they suggest is even more Government.

            How much bigger does it need to get? This is a chart on Government Spending from 1950 to present. It graphs the Government Spending as a percentage of GDP (Gross Domestic Output):
            http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/downchart_gs.php?year=1950_2010&chart=F0-total&units=p

            It just keeps growing, and growing, and growing.

          • JeffH

            “We never had debt until Reagan came along, Why?”
            It seems we’ve had debt forever…I find that comment utterly unbelievable.

            Ever since Alexander Hamilton refunded the debts of the Revolutionary War with a federal debt, the United States only went into debt to pay for its wars. But then in the 1930s the administration of President Roosevelt attempted to get the nation out of the Great Depression with federal borrowings.

            When the US government was created after the election of 1788 the federal debt was floated by the first Treasury Secretary, Alexander Hamilton. Experienced in banking, Hamilton stabilized the dollar and refunded the debts incurred by the states in the Revolutionary War as an obligation of the new federal government. The federal debt stood at 35% of gross domestic product (GDP). By the 1830s the Revolutionary war debt had been paid off—just in time for the Civil War when federal debt climbed back up to 33% of GDP. Still, the Civil War debt was pretty well paid off by the turn of the 20th century.

            Used to be that the National Debt only went up to pay for wars. After World War I, the federal debt stood at 35% of GDP. But then came the Great Depression, and President Roosevelt decided to spend his way out of trouble. Government debt, including federal and state and local debt rose to 45% of GDP. But it was World War II that really entered new territory. After the end of the war in 1946 government debt stood at 121.2% of GDP. For the next 35 years successive governments brought down the debt, but then came President Reagan. He increased the debt up over 50% of GDP to win the Cold War. President Bush increased the debt to fight a war on terror and bail out the banks. President Obama is increasing it to fund anything that needs a cool trillion or so.
            http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/debt_deficit_brief.php

          • Dan az

            The gradual victory of Hayek’s anti-regulatory, pro-market economic views in the West, largely through the influence of Milton Friedman particularly in the 1980s Reagan-Thatcher period (Friedman was an economic advisor to President Reagan) began a worldwide deregulatory trend that eventually included the financial sector. The Economist magazine praised him as “the most influential economist of the second half of the 20th century…possibly of all of it“. In 1988 he received the Presidential Medal of Freedom and the National Medal of Science. Initially the results of implementing his pro-market prescriptions were largely positive. Excessive government regulation, particularly in more socialist economies, had in fact created a stranglehold on businesses – especially small to medium-sized – that was doing far more harm than good.

          • Dan az

            Pushed too far the same views that initially helped business resulted in an extreme anti-regulatory environment that began to benefit only the largest companies as they were increasingly freed to use their economic power to warp the free markets in their favor. This became particularly true in the financial sector in the 1990’s when they succeeded in getting part of the 1933 Glass-Steagal Act repealed with passage of the 1999 Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. A host of federal and state regulatory acts stemming from the experiences of the Great Depression were repealed in the 1990s and beyond. Branch banking and interstate banking became widespread resulting in numerous bank mergers consolidating most banking into a handful of banks later deemed TBTF (Too Big to Fail) and so were given special, favored treatment by Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson and later Secretary Tim Geithner and Fed Chairman Bernanke with taxpayer-financed bank bailouts and low interest loans. The foxes were rewarded for gutting the hen house.

          • JC

            Where ya been Eric…America has been broke since the 30s.

          • DaveH

            Jeff,
            You weren’t really expecting honesty from a Liberal(oops, Progressive) were you?

          • JeffH

            DaveH, you’ll be the first to know if that ever happens.lol

      • Vicki

        Conservatives DO balance their books. RINO’s and Democrats don’t.

        • HFlashman

          (snicker)

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Its been the liberals fault for years, and it still is, and as long as they are in bed with satan’s son, George Soros and others like him, they will forever be at fault, because they are under the influence of the dark side. They are immorral, indifferent, and think of themselves as better than us all and think they should tell us what to think and do, like the socialists they are. It is, all their fault.

    • bob wire

      Well, ~ I don’t believe Obama has destroyed America’s already dangerously failing economy. ~But it’s a matter of fact, that all the big money interest “response” to Obama or his direction change sure has!

      Actually this economic shut down occurred well before Nov 08 election results were in. And needless to say, “O” wasn’t big business 1st choice, ~ rather enjoying “status quo” and feel comfortable with McCain in their pocket.

      It’s much like musical chairs, as long as the music plays and everyone appear to be in contention for a chair,~ everyone is happy. But when the music stops and some are left standing, only then does the sadness begin.

      In our case today,~ the music has stopped and the winners remain seated while preventing the music to play again.

      They are sitting on the wealth that they have accumulated over the last 30 years and show no more interest in the game.

      They can sit, a long time, I like to call such a strategy, “Mexican Sweat” They are waiting ~ waiting ~ for someone to blink.

      They feel that they need better “incentives” to continue. For now, there is no penalty large enough to encourage them to do otherwise.

      Then you factor in, they are working on a global level and they haven’t really stopped business activities at all, they have just stopped the focus in the US.

      Why should they? They need a good reason.

      So you can blame “O” if you want too ~ and be maybe be half right. You can blame the Federal Reserve and be half right as well.

      But I think we might consider ~ the big movers and shakers of big business can live “anywhere they want to” ~and they do!

      They have taken their toys and gone somewhere else, a place where the weather is fine, the view gorgeous and the government most friendly and the people willing to bow and serve them.

      America has spend the last 30 years investing in military might and nation building, ~ and all but ignored infrastructure or investing in itself. We are now,~ without question ~ the baddest cats to ever walk the face of the earth.

      This unique position has placed men of great power and influence to expand their global aspirations. The world is truly their oyster.

      The Boston “Big Dig” has been the last big civil project America has undertaken. Prior to that, we had what? Eisenhower’s public highway expansion of the 50′s and before that ~ Hoover Dam?

      While as a nation we take great pride in the many achievements of NASA and all the spin-off of development, I consider NASA primary military.

      For a Nation our size and wealth, our money has been poorly spent UNLESS ! there is something,~ some equity to gain ~ worth the price we have paid for such a fine military. For today, we crumble and rot from the inside out while few seem to notice.

      I don’t know what it’s going to take to change things ~ Americans can’t raise families and thrive on $10,000.00 per. years like the people in some countries can and there a limit to how many rocket scientists we need. Everybody can’t have a government job, Everybody can’t work for a government sub-contractor.

      We must offer incentive to get people moving! The carrot or the stick!

      Today, both the carrot and the stick is to small for these big players.

      So they sit!

      • Yvan

        Bob wire – This is the best post I have read for many months – It is deadly accurate. It’s sad to think that we are man1ipulate like pawns on a checker board. The worst thing is to see the poor voting for the riches thinking that they will provide jobs. For China may be.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        You are right that it shut down prior to the 2008 election. Ive been saying that a long time. It shut down the last year, maybe a year and a half of Bush’s second term, when it became pretty darn clear, thanks to the liberal press’s continually assault on the Republicans, that a democrat was going to be elected. Now all business, they all know, that democrats are highly against business and success. They know that their taxes were soon going to be raised, that the dems were going to take away tax cuts as they had promised they would (which they ended up lying about like they always do), and business tightened up preparing for the incoming tax monsters. If they dont, when all these new democratic taxes and fee’s hit them, they would sink and go out of business. But they planned ahead, slowed down, laid off people to keep the cash reserves to pay the democratic tax monsters. It is all true, check with any properly run business. It is the only way to stay solvent. And Obama in over 2 years has ran it straight downhill, screwing up at every turn. Now you watch, because Im telling you true. Everyone knows that Obama and the rest of his thugs are going bye bye in 2012. About 6 months into 2011, or late this summer, the economy will start picking up, and business now knows that this incompetant fool has been rendered powerless to do the evil deeds they set out to do to American business, and the economy will start to pick up, and by the time a republican comes into power in 2012, then it will take off big time. Of course, by then, the dems will say its because of what they did while in office. That is how they work, and the liberal press will do their dirty work in spreading their propaganda of lies to the general public. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people that dont know the truth, and they will buy into what the TV tells them. Its pretty sad.

    • eddie47d

      Richard, George had already done that before Jan.2009. Obama saved the day in short terms but can he shore it up for the long run. I do have doubts on that unless the debt hemorrhaging is stopped. We may still be the wealthiest nation on earth but not always the smartest. Today John Meyers brought up some fair and honest questions on the Federal Reserves and how it effects the US and the world economy.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Saved the day? Have you looked at anything objectively at all eddie? We are in far, far worse shape than when Obama took over in 2008. The unemployment lines are growing. Government is growing and the private sector is sinking. Thats a bad, bad thing eddie. All he has done is expand government handouts and create more government jobs, that we all get to pay for, for the rest of our lives. He expanded welfare, food stamps, unemployment, abortion, social security handouts to illegal aliens. He spent our money fighting Arizona’s right to protect their borders, because the federal government not only wont do it, they are spending millions of our dollars to keep them open. Unbelievable. This guy is the biggest failure to ever hit the White House, and I cannot believe you cannot see it. Wake up eddie, you cannot possible be that naive.

    • ruth

      by acorn and their dead votes and cartoon tricks. did obama even win, i wonder, was it fixed(probably)i would not doudt it at all.

    • Dan az

      One of the greatest coverups in history was the Killing of the President. If you believe the Mafia did it, then I have ocean front land in Kansas for you to buy. President Kennedy was murdered over money, $4 billion dollars worth. You see, he had printed $4 billion worth of non-interest bearing money which meant he began to chop at the profits of the vultures. Interest free money means the national debt is eliminated and the power of the international banking element is broken. So to prevent Kennedy from abolishing the illegal Fed, he was assassinated. Coincidence? As soon as the traitor Johnson was in office, he recalled all the debt free notes and continued our country in the same path of ruin. There, the mystery of the killing is over. Just follow the trail of the money.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        And I fully believe that Lyndon Baines Johnson made more money by taking payoffs than any president in history. He made millions escalating the Vietnam War so that his buddies could get rich, and he got paid. And Im sure the fed threw him more than a couple of bones also. I would like to see a full scale investigation into that guys finances. Im sure a lot of dirt would be uncovered.

  • Robert Hauser

    Since when has the hoax known as the “Fed” ever sworn to serve the American people? No, I am serious: is any official of the “fed” even required to take the standard oath of office as required by Article VI of the Constitution? The “fed” is not even a bank…it is a privately owned (Rothschild) credit cartel and not a federal agency in any lawful sense of the term. So I doubt seriously that even Benny the Buttface Bernanke, chairman of the board of governors is required to take that oath….and even if so, he would be invoking KOL NIDRE while he was administered that oath which is the exact equivalent of having his fingers crossed behind his back. It was on the crest of a wave of Goldman-SUCKS loot that the Almighty Fudgesicle rode right through the front doors of the White House, so it should strike no one as surprising that the jewish money cartel wants to see him permanently installed as eternal dictator in the White Brothel.

    • Dan az

      Now that the Federal Reserve was firmly in place, schemes had to be constructed to get the government to borrow so a continuously growing national debt would happen. So here are some coincidences: The Federal Reserve is created in 1913, then in 1914 we have World War 1. Right at the end of World War 1, we have a depressed economy especially in the Weimar Republic where 2 billion marks could buy a loaf of bread. In 1917, we had the Bolshevik revolution in Russia. A man named Lord Alfred Milner was a front man and paymaster for the Rothschilds in Petrograd during the revolution. He later headed a secret organization called The Round Table which was dedicated to a one world government run by wealthy financiers under socialism.

      Then, lo and behold, in the 1920′s we see a little known corporal with 12 men meeting in a beer hall in Munich while in America the Roaring 20′s were in progress until October, 1929. Then the Federal Reserve withheld money from circulation so bills could not be paid, while simultaneously they were calling in all their loans which caused the stock market to crash. By 1932 the price of stocks had plummeted 80%. When the bankers plunged this nation into a depression on that fateful day in October, at the New York Stock Exchange was a visitor, his name was Winston Churchill who stated after the crash of ’29, “Now I know who wields the real power.” The key to understanding the Great Depression is to realize that when the Federal Reserve had contracted the money supply, there was not enough money in circulation to pay bills, to hire people, to pay back loans, etc. The crash of the stock market was the symptom but the cause was the Fed restricting the money supply. This is their weapon which is used today. When they flood the country with money, this causes inflation.

      Then we come into the 1930′s and the rise of Hitler. Hitler was also funded by Wall Street through the Industrialist I.G. Farben. Let’s test the theory of follow the money. Here is a little known corporal with no money meeting in a beer hall in Munich with only about 12 men. In a seriously depressed and defeated country, there begins to rise another military dictatorship. By 1934 the Nuremberg Rallies were in place and Germany was rebuilt. In that countries’ economy who had that much money to rebuild Germany into a powerful country which marched across Europe and almost defeated Russia in the first 24 hours of Case White (The invasion of Russia)? The answer is the bankers of the USA and England. In fact, a banker named Bernard Baruch was President Roosevelt’s personal advisor during World War 2. Baruch made $200 million dollars as a result of World War 2. During WW2 the Rockefellers were selling oil to the Germans from their Standard Oil concern in Argentina.

      The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) was formed in 1919 in Paris, France by Colonel Edward Mandell House who was known as Woodrow Wilson’s alter ego. The CFR was and still is dedicated to the one world rule under a new world order. In fact, every war has been planned by the CFR. Every American President since 1919 has had their cabinet filled with CFR members. Also our traitorous Presidents fill their cabinets with not only CFR members but those of the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers, the Yale Fraternity of the Skull and Bones (George Bush was a member of this).

      These members insure that the will of the bankers are done, even if the President is not a member of any group. After WW2, was fought another war was created known as the Korean War (which was started by a phone call from John Foster Dulles), then the Vietnam War. During the Vietnamese War, the Rockefellers had a metals processing plant going full blast in North Vietnam. The Rockefellers have the blood of thousands of Americans on their hands because of their supplying the Russians with weapons and metals. The North Vietnamese received their weapons from Russia. The only reason these rats are never indicted for treason, is because since WW2 there has never been a declared war which means if we have no official enemy, there can be no aiding the enemy AKA treason.

      Presently we have skirmishes such as the Gulf War of 1990 which was an experiment by the New World Order crowd to see how fast they can assemble an army in case a country does not choose to obey the dictates of the banker bosses. Of course funding for the gulf war came from borrowing money from the Fed. Wherever you hear of a limited war, or some type of political destabilization, think of the money trail. Wars are started in foreign countries, then our President goes there and gives millions of dollars of borrowed money which normally goes into the pockets of the dictators. Nowhere in our Constitution is it written that our government is to borrow money and give it away.

      • Dave M

        @ Dan az

        Good post Dan, historicaly it has allways been the banks that were the winners in any war. Look at the Swiss in WW2. They played both sides and got away with it.

  • http://MozzelaFirefox Jo

    The Federal Reserve is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!! Nationalize our bank. Congress is to coin our money not a private bank!

    • Richard Pawley

      What is interesting is that this was never voted upon in the Supreme Court. The Democrats, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Marxists, or whatever name they used then or will use in the future, back then, under Wilson, they simply went around the Constitution (just like healthcare) and anything else they deem is ‘best’ for the poor ignorant masses and ‘the poor they love so much’. Sorry, I don’t buy it. I liked JFK but I was younger then and I doubt he would be a Democrat these days. He’d probably have to be independent.

      However, it’s a bit extreme to say that the owners of the FED are traitors. As I understood it the primary ownership is, and always has been, overseas. In one of my books I pointed out that one year one of the American owners gave each of their employees, some 29,000 of them, a half million dollars for a Christmas bonus. Hey, it’s only taxpayer’s money. Times are hard so that was cut in half a couple of years ago. The point is I always assumed that the President was hand picked by them to do their bidding. They have always wanted a one world money system that they could control and like Brazil outlaw gold in private hands so that only they controlled the world’s economy.

      As we bow down to the new world power that we have helped create with our money, China, it will be interesting to see if the owners of the world’s Central Banks can control China too. I really have no idea. What they need and will eventually get is a super depression that I first wrote about years ago and when the population has shrunk from famine and disaster, impose the ‘solution’ of a new world-wide money system (theirs of course) that the masses will readily agree to because of the stability it will supposedly offer. That may yet be some time in the future. It’s all about the love of money and that love has loyalty only unto itself. It’s why Jesus said that, not money, but the LOVE OF MONEY, was the root of all evil, and now the FED is again threatening the very depression they threatened us with in 2008, if we didn’t give them 3/4 of a TRILLION dollars then. Well, Bush and Obama and Lieberman and McCain (and most everyone else) rushed to give them the money, not my congresswoman, but she was new then, and since then we have given them more money than there is, and still they want us to increase the national debt more because over 40% of that money is just interest to them. For every TRILLION we increase the debt, over 400,000 MILLION goes to them! Anybody can get by on a hundred million unless you are George Soros or the owners of the FED. I see no answer to all this. The USA Titanic has hit the iceberg. The Tea Party construction workers are working furiously to keep the ship from sinking. It’s already been afloat a lot longer that the original because it was originally built according to the design of the US Constitution but the leaks of corruption and waste are throughout the ship. Believer’s can pray for guidance and direction for their own families and that those in congress do what is right and not just what is expedient. Everyone else who is not in denial can follow other advice given elsewhere on this site about preparing a lifeboat for a time when food and water will be far more important than rate of return or percent of gain. I’m not even sure these aren’t the beginning of the so-called “end of days” that the Bible talks about and the Bible Code implies. They could last a very long time but without God’s help and intervention it is all down here from here. True Christians know that and it’s why the ‘world’ listed as one of man’s enemies by Jesus, as in “The enemies of man are the world, the flesh, and the devil” hates Sarah Palin so. She represents the self-reliance and freedom that God deigned for all men and women, but even in the churches there are those who want to lord it over others and often demand things that God never demanded. “All my followers know and love the simple rules I gave when I lived on earth as a man,” Jesus once said, “many of them would be puzzled over all the rules of your churches. In all things simplify!”

      “May you live in interesting times” was the ancient Chinese curse and we are living is some of the most interesting times that have ever been. The president has done one good thing and that is to awake the populace to the Constitution and how this government is supposed to work. May God bless and guide the newest members of congress so that they might actually save our ship of state before it sinks on the shoals of sheer stupidity and irresponsibility. We can handle the tripling of prices that will eventually come because of all the waste of the previous 111th Congress and the Treasury just creating dollars out of thin air, but we cannot handle the destruction of the economies of the world that will follow that great inflation. We must slow this all down if possible. May God help us!

      • http://MozzelaFirefox Jo

        WOW!!! Blessed is the nation who’s God is the Lord! If God couldn’t find righteous people in our land, I believe we would have gone under along time ago. The international bankers and the elite are messing with God’s country and I truly believe Obama is a wake up call to the U.S. Voters need to find out who they are really voting for. Dig deep into their candidates background and know what the really stand for. I believe in miracles. We sure need one.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Amen. His misdeeds waking us up may end up being a good thing for us in the long run, but for now we will pay for Obama’s misdeeds. But at least some have woken up from their slumber. Unfortunately, eddie hasnt yet.

          • Dan az

            I think thats impossible Beberoni because that would require a fact that he would not be willing to read or hear.

      • S.C.Murf

        Thank You

        up the hill
        airborne

      • Robt Hauser

        I refer to the “federal reserve” banksters as traitors because, as defined in the Constitution, treason shall consist only of making war on one’s onw country or aiding and abetting its enemies…..I believe that taking control of a nation’s currency by deceit and subterfuge and manipulating it in such way that it renders the working people of that nation as bonded slaves for life well qualifies as treason….you can make war on a nation in far more ways than with guns, bombs and/or planes. Enslaving a nation’s people is worse than killing them all off.
        Their occasional token gestures of largess toward their employees don’t mean a damned thing.

      • HFlashman

        What is interesting is that this (Constitutionality of Fed Reserve) was never voted upon in the Supreme Court. <—Pawley

        Maybe because there isn't a question about it? The Supremes don't create cases…they hear cases in dispute on appeal. If the SCOTUS hasn't ruled on the constitutionality of the Fed, it's because no one has seen fit to take the dispute that high. Fact is …. if an appellate court had ruled the Fed is unconstitutional, the SCOTUS would take the case because of the federal question and functions of the monetary system require it.

        Y'all scream and rant about the Fed being 'unconstitutional" ? Hey…go for it. Knock yourself out. Take it to the courts.

        • Dan az

          The American economy has been sucked dry by the Federal Reserve System. Americans think they own property but the truth is the entire United States has been mortgaged to the bankers. The Rothschilds and Rockefellers become richer while the peoples of the world become poorer. The International Monetary Fund and the World Bank are also designed to loan money to developing nations with the understanding that they will never be able to repay so with every loan made to a country, it becomes their death knell. The entire world has been plunged into a debt economy which means 6 billion people are in debt to about 250 men. But keep in mind that all their wealth is phony because it is created money without any gold backing.

          I really laugh when Wall Street bows down to Ben Bernanke who is nothing more than a boot licker of the International Banking element who takes his orders by phone too. So many people rejoice when the Federal Reserve has a policy meeting and no interest rate increase happens. The truth is that we should never have a Federal Reserve to begin with. They print money, loan it into circulation, and the American people are strapped with more debt.

          I remember leaving materials on the Federal Reserve at a meeting of Concerned Women for America. The next day I went back and not one copy was taken. The reason given me was because it was not approved material. Groups like Concerned Women for America and the Christian Coalition and Rush Limbaugh are something known as controlled opposition. They are allowed to exist as long as they do not bring up the real issues. If they stick to the created liberal Democrat Vs. conservative Republican agenda, they can exist and the bankers will even make them famous. But you will never hear a Beverly LaHaye, Tim LaHaye, Jim Dobson, Billy Graham, Gary Bauer, or any other famous Christians ever tackle the real issues like the illegal Fed which causes all the poverty in every country. If these people would think for a minute that if $350 billion dollars a year was not being sucked out of the economy and was used for the people in this country, we would surely have enough to help other nations and our own problems. Crime would almost be non-existent with a monetized money system. The Great Commission would also be funded without worrying if there will be enough left over to feed the children.

          THE TEN MEMBER BANKS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE
          All owned by the Rothschilds
          Rothschild Bank of London
          Warburg Bank of Hamburg
          Rothschild Bank of Berlin
          Lehman Brothers of New York
          Lazard Brothers of Paris
          Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York
          Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy
          Goldman, Sachs of New York
          Warburg Bank of Amsterdam
          Chase Manhattan Bank of New York

          Now ask a question – Where is the Federal Government of the United States listed and how much does it get? I will answer it for you, it is not listed because the Federal Reserve is private and it receives nothing.

          WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! WAKE UP!!! THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS ILLEGAL AND OUR IMPOTENT CONGRESS REFUSES TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND ABOLISH THE FED. THEY WOULD RATHER ALLOW US TO REMAIN IN BONDAGE FOREVER. DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS ARE BOTH USELESS ENTITIES BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY THE BANKERS.

          I PERSONALLY WILL VOTE CONSTITUTION PARTY. THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE YOU INDOLENT AMERICAN.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Thats why you should start showing some respect for the right flashman. You see, one of these days, as we keep circling the toilet, its going to come down to that “keep the powder dry” that you lambast at times. And its going to be these same right wing guys, that will take their guns and ammo, and rise up against the fed and group like them, and make a stand for America. You might want to consider that when your attacking everyone that isnt a pacifist appeaser like you.

          • Denniso

            When the right rises up w/ guns, they get shot down pretty quickly…
            remember the wacko ‘republic of texass’ people? In jail…remember the
            Motanna militia crazies? In jail. Try it and see what happens over and over…

  • http://! Angel Wannabe

    R, Presidents are bred & born, Groomed in protocol, and set in the winds until they’re time is come. “No one” just happens to be lucky enough to be elected President!

    • Lewis Munn

      Well, one “no one” with an unknown or indeterminate past, all records sealed against inspection, etc is our President now. How did that happen?

      Must be the conservative’s fault somehow, right?

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Lewis, I think Obama was bought and paid by Soros. One of the Many multi-billionaire puppeteers. Theres two agendas the one the master elites allow us to see, who try to make us think we take part in, and the other agenda that no one sees behind the curtain, like the Wizard of OZ__ The one no one sees, is the one that runs everything.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          Lewis__ here’s is an excellant link, a very informative guide to Leftists and was originally posted by JeffH___

          http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/

          • eddie47d

            Angel; More of Jeff’s propaganda pages.

          • Vicki

            Counter the (alleged) propaganda with truth (and cites to back up your assertions). Failing that your proof by bald assertion is just another fast eddie factoid (I.E. Fiction)

          • JeffH

            George Soros: Barack Obama’s Money Man and Agenda Puppeter.
            Much of Barack Obama’s socialist agenda and ideas for the United States comes directly from Soros and in turn through his network of leftist funded organizations. This includes the funding of organizations that advocate abortion, open borders, amnesty for illegal aliens, a cap-and-trade tax, to prevent man-made global warming, huge cuts in defense spending, increasing the minimum wage and the world poverty tax just to name a few.

            Many wonderful videos of Soros to watch…if you really want to know about him.
            http://raymondpronk.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/goerge-soros-barack-obamas-money-man-and-agenda-puppeter/

        • http://yahoo richard

          angle, so was the rnc

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            And Congress Richard, is home to 81 Socialists, not what America was made of!?

        • Dan az

          The Two Step Plan to
          National Economic Reform and Recovery
          1. Directs the Treasury Department to issue U.S. Notes (like Lincoln’s Greenbacks; can also be in electronic deposit format) to pay off the National debt.

          2. Increases the reserve ratio private banks are required to maintain from 10% to 100%, thereby terminating their ability to create money, while simultaneously absorbing the funds created to retire the national debt.

          These two relatively simple steps, which Congress has the power to enact, would extinguish the national debt, without inflation or deflation, and end the unjust practice of private banks creating money as loans (i.e., fractional reserve banking). Paying off the national debt would wipe out the $400+ billion annual interest payments and thereby balance the budget. This Act would stabilize the economy and end the boom-bust economic cycles caused by fractional reserve banking.

          • Dan az

            Support the Monetary Reform Act – write your Congressman today!
            this is a link that most be read by all that care and want to do something about it.http://www.themoneymasters.com/monetary-reform-act/
            Now instead of bitching and moaning about it lets do something about it and hold there feet to the fire until its done.Come on people here is your chance to stop this insanity by doing what you all do best Write your congressman today!!!!!

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Soros bought and sold them long, long ago. And the scary part is, now is the time for them to start paying him back, and who knows what depths they will sink to in order to give him what he wants in return for propping them up with his billions. Its a scary thought as to what he wants with his bought democrat party.

      • Robt Hauser

        Every minute of every solitary damned rotten day in this country, the Rothschild owned “federal reserve bank” is proving beyond any reasonable doubt and to a moral certainty that Hitler was right. Anyone who has read MEIN KAMPF in its original and UNADULTERATED German (and not any of the numerous bogus jewish “translations” as in senator Alan Cranston (1939)) would realize this.

    • bob wire

      Al Gore was just such a man, He had been groomed for the slot as I understand it by a wealthy man from Tennessee from the beginning .

      But in “O” case, ~ I say he was groomed for a difficult world for a mixed race child by a very progressive mother.

      • Robt Hauser

        By “progressive” I must assume you mean a self-hating white trash Grade B porn queen. Such has been most of the “progress” in this country….

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        And mind conditioned at a young age by his muslim father. Dont leave that part out. Its pretty important.

  • Heimy Brownstein

    It has always amazed me that even the big shot bank presidents are either too stupid to understand this scam or igored it because of the sweet gravy flowing from their jobs! I have asked the ignorant for years, if the United States Government owns the Federal Reserve who gets the interest the United States Government pays on the money it borrows from the Federal Reserve? Simple question! But these idiots never have the answer! Right now Obama has got us so far in debt the interest on that debt can’t be serviced by any means of cash flow coming from the people! If the government was collecting this interest we would literally have money to burn! Take the time to read this link! Learn about the real government who has run the USA since 1913! We have never elected a single one of them! It was set up to look like a government agency! The President gets to select the Chairman of the Fed from the list provided by the Rothchilds, Rockefellers and other Jewish Fed owners! Then the Presidents selection is confirmed by the senate! If the process fails they simple produce another candidate from the same family!

    http://www.wtv-zone.com/Mary/BIGGESTSCAMINHISTORY.HTML

    • Teresa

      TY Heimy…glad that your getting the word out…I just wish that everyone would OPEN their eyes.. Everyone is so focused on Dem vs. Rep, L vs. R, PLEASE WAKE UP PEOPLE….THIS IS ABOUT ALL OF US…”WE THE PEOPLE”. ONE WORLD ORDER. It does not matter what side of politics your on because we will all be slaves or dead! WAKE UP!!!!!!!!

      • shar

        Bilderbergers.

        • Teresa

          YOU GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Dan az

        U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, introduced last month H.R. 1207, the Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009, a bill requiring that an audit of both the Fed’s Board of Governors and the Federal Reserve Banks be completed and reported to Congress before the end of 2010. We support Dr. Ron Paul and this bill which is gaining momentum in Washington, D.C., as more and more representatives add their names to its bipartisan support. We urge you to call your Congressmen to support this H.R. 1207. Thank you.

    • JeffH

      Heimy “The President gets to select the Chairman of the Fed from the list provided by the Rothchilds, Rockefellers and other Jewish Fed owners! Then the Presidents selection is confirmed by the senate! If the process fails they simple produce another candidate from the same family!”

      Let’s make a small correction, the owners are Zionists.

      • shar

        Bilderbergers for sure.

    • Robert

      I agree, not only are they controlling gold, they are controlling gas and oil prices also, and what is making everything go up, gas and oil and what is controlling our money, they are, the filthy rich, the Fed, and Obama! And I do agree they are trying to get Obama reelected, they will not admit this never, just like they never will admit that gas, oil and gold prices is driving this economy to extinction, do they have to worry about money, no, why should they care, they just keep getting richer and richer, they will never care for the people, as long as they get what they want, and usually it is their on way, not what the voters or people say!

      • DaveH

        Robert,
        Prices are going up because more paper dollars (and electronic dollars) are being created. There are more dollars chasing fewer goods, so naturally prices increase.

      • shar

        Bilderbergers again.

  • http://aol.com sean murrey

    they are all traitors the whole bunch should be tried for treason.

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      Sean_ the corruption level is too high for a charge of treason, all politicians cover each others azz’z!

    • Belcara

      Now there is a thought. Have you seen the movie, Numenburg Trials? No spell check for Numenburg, could be Neumen..oh well. If the Republicans would put their action where their mouths are we may someday have justice in this country again.

      Bel

      • DaveH

        nuremberg trials

      • shar

        Again the Bilderbergers.

  • chucky

    All I can tell anybody with large families is stock up on canned goods and other non-perishable items now because food will almost double in a year(global demand, devaluation of the dollar,ect.) We put shelves in our basement and our goal is to stock a years worth of non-perishables, dry goods and we hope to find 2 or 3 freezers to put down there for meats and poultry.Have a 1000 gallon gas tank and filled it at $2.20 a gallon. We are using our land to grow vegtables again this spring. We all sat down and discussed and decided that we would rather be ants than grasshoppers(aesop fable) when the time comes. When we planted a garden last year I noticed how it brings a family together finding the right seeds and planting day with the youngsters getting involved teaching them how to grow a garden. We have told the next generation of our family that if it gets bad price wise for goods in America to come home for awhile and stay with us and save money. Sounds like the panic button has been hit at our home, but I have found that staying a step ahead of potential problems is always the best course of action. Hopefully people will understand that 90% of government in America is self serving first and the people come last. Dems and Repubs will finger point at each other and try to accomplish nothing because they like the system the way it is. Big lobby/earmark money that they control= power. The American Politican has lost it’s scruples for years now. But nobody wants to admit to it. want to send a messege to Washington? DO NOT VOTE FOR EITHER PARTY FOR JUST ONE ELECTION, THEY CAN NOT POSSIBLY DO ANY WORSE.If everyone held to this you will see a more humble Washington.

    • Lastmanstanding

      chucky, millions of us are with you in preparation…better stock up on ammo.

      • Belcara

        Dear Lastman,
        If the proverbial THEY own/control food, water and shelter what use is ammo?

        Bel

        • JC

          They don’t “own” our food and water. The guns may end up being used to retrieve what was stolen, but is naturally ours.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Yes sir. You are correct. Sometimes a good offense is the best defense.

        • Lastmanstanding

          Bel. THEY may think they own it/us. Let’s see if they REALLY have the balls to see it through now that we are on to their crap. NO WAY THEY WILL BREAK ME! Me and millions of other American Patriots, “will be THE LAST MEN AND WOMEN STANDING.” Hope you are with us…

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Thats why I told flashman not to be so quick to attack the “keep the powder dry” folks, because someday he will find he just may have to depend on us to help his butt survive.

    • Lewis Munn

      Vote, but vote for a 3rd party that adheres to principles we can live with. When a 3rd party gets powerful enough to swing the votes, politicians will listen, for a while anyhow!

      • Belcara

        Ditto,
        Just don’t let the 3rd party join the interrelated boards of the Multinational Corporations that own, run this country. If they get a taste of power and greed that the Republicans gets snared with every time, we will continue to have the same problem over and over again. We need home bred patriates who realize the snares and temptations to join the rich and turn on us. The rich hate, dispise, abhor the middle classes and we had better get that clear in our minds that you cannot be a Rothchild, Kennedy, etc and also care about average Americans.

        Bel

    • Belcara

      Chucky,
      Draconian law just passed. Stockpiling food may be a crime. The water belongs to the government (for our use and for us to pay for but not ours to water our gardens with bathwater), food belongs to the government and not ours to plant, transport, store, etc..We have been and are being made jobless, homeless, and who knows if we won’t end up as displaced citizens in refuge camps while the NEW OBAMA citizens move in and take over.

      Bel

      • DaveH

        I ran across this while researching your claim. Note that Obama had not yet taken office when this article was written:
        http://us.altermedia.info/news-of-interest-to-white-people/government-declares-new-crime-food-hoarding_4216.html

      • shar

        All Executive Orders should be exposed.
        All Czars should be fired – why should we pay for these people?
        The Bilderbergers and The Fed/Central Bank is running the show – try the “Secrets of the Federal Reserve” on the Library of Congress website.

        So encouraging to see so many people are getting the word out about what is truly happening before it is too late, i.e., sea grab, land grab, internet grab, food grab, every grab you can imagine is going down with BO and his thuggery. Unbelieveable. I hope Nancy got her train over to wine country in California like promised. We should all write in for WAIVERS from EVERYTHING!!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        The government cant even afford to hire people to exercise warrants that are issued for criminals, so how are they going to protect every well and lake to keep us from water? They would be getting shot right and left, and that is exactly what will happen when they try this.

  • Bitter Libertarian

    “The Federal Reserve is a traitor to the American people and the nation it has sworn to protect” That statement is true but the realization that a Private bank that is Owned by International Bankers and European Interists CANNOT possibly be loyal to the nation is “Sits” in.

    My Statement is this; “The Presidents, Senators, and Congresmen who choose to allow the Federal Reserve to continue to RAPE America are Traitors to the American people and the nation they swore an oath to protect.”

    The Fed is CRIMINAL because it was NEVER intended to do US any good…the Politicians who allow it (and dont anyone DARE to excuse any politicians responsibility here) are TRAITORS and COWARDS for not Ending the FED. PERIOD.

    • Carlucci

      Amen – !! Andrew Jackson got rid of the central banking cartel with the support of the American people. How can we do it again?

      Recently I read an article that said there are communities in America that use their own currencies since there is no law that says people must use FRNs in the states. Ron Paul confirmed this. Check it out:
      http://www.berkshares.org/Video/WSJ.htm

      Years ago, we used to pay for stuff at Academy and Walmart with Liberty ten dollar silver coins made by Norfed. If anyone still owns some of these coins, you know how beautiful they are. (I still have some and they are now worth about $30.00 each).

  • Contarian

    Your article presupposes that the “Fed” (a wholly owned, private banking cartel) is even concerned as to who is “President”. Please be advised, these “people” slide whomever they wish into that now puppet office, and reap the rewards of their on going criminal enterprise, unhindered by any who would speak up.

  • Disabled Veteran Brian

    Traitor is too weak a word for Helicopter Ben and his boss/master, Obama. I do not, repeat not, advocate violence against officials, elected or appointed. I believe in God and follow in an ancient Buddhist principle of Ahimsa, harm no one. That said, I also practice martial arts and allow no one to harm me. I also believe that the nut job president and his minions have much to fear, as power crazed dictators and evil underlings that try to maintain power by ANY means possible fear losing that power more than anything. Wipe out the savings and retirement hopes of 300 million people while our self serving president and his Immelda Marcos style wife can live as pampered elite….sure. Spend hundreds of billions of their money any way that comes to mind…sure. Lie, steal, cheat, ruin, trample personal liberty guaranteed by the founding fathers, absolutely. The British said it best, every king should have a rope around their necks, it helps keep them upright. What I have left in savings and retirement funds is headed to help rope the current liars and find someone of honor.

    • Lastmanstanding

      DVBrian. Thank you for your service and God Bless you.

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      Thank You for your service Disabled Veteren Brian and God Bless!

    • bob wire

      Thank you for your “sacrifice” and what campaign ribbon do you honor?

    • Robt Hauser

      This is not martial arts in the streets where a code of honor prohibits you from attacking someone simply because he looks at you with menace….and Benjamin Buttface SHALOM Bernanke’s “boss” is not the Almighty Fudgesicle Mackdaddy….it is quite the other way around. Obama does what he is told by the Rothschilds through their buttfaced proxy, Bernanke. They are traitors and they deserve harm. Unlike you, I do very much believe in harming my proven enemies before they get a chance to harm me in this realm of parasites….and particularly the KOL NIDRE invoking enemies of this country. Passivity and waiting for them to attack us has already shown itself to be national suicide and will be this country’s epitaph when in fact they already have as of December 23rd, 1913, and that alone is all the license we need to make war on them any and every way we can. End of report.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Offense is the best defense my friend. Being proactive is much better than reactive.

  • jimmy joe

    The Author of this author is correct.the federal reserve is nothing but embezzelers of the fruits of americas labor redistributed to those who hate america.But we have to up the ante’not with just the federal reserve.Any lawmaker,or law enforcement.who has sworn an oath.must be held immediately accountable for violating their oath.They are under oath from the time they take their oath.until they are relieved of their oath.24 hours a day 7 days a week.When they are proven to,lie to,or about others.perjury.when they obstruct,aid,and abeit,or refuse to uphold the laws on the books they swore to protect,and defend.Contempt for the law.harboring fugitives from justice.aiding forein invaders,and enemies,foreign,and domestic.I could go on forever, the corruption,and criminal activism.that our lawmakers,law enforcement,and anyone else.especially judges,and politicians.who violate their oath of office.same consequences,reperations to the agreived,or victims,and penaltys,no more censures,or slaps on the hands.Immediate removal from their official status without pay.until they have exausted their appeals,and defense.that will end the same status quo raping of america’s fruits,and human lives,rights,and liberty trafficking,for votes.that has been our government policy for over 100 years 10 fold the last fifty years,90 fold since 9/11.”My oath is my Bond accountability act”Why are we forced to keep,and continue to hire.Those we can’t fire.Based on the selfish criminally minded natures of their constituencys,and special interest.who continue to keep them in power,and atthority.because,they are lawless,corrupt,and have no respect for the oaths they take.We the people.that respect,and abide by the law.even if we dis-agree with certain laws.must have a recourse of immediate action.to force others who don’t,and think they are above the law,violating said laws,and oaths.without legislative,and executive action,by the constituents representatives to change said laws.under the constitutional limits of government.Under those limits in the constitution,The declaration of Independence,And bill of rights,According to constitutional amendments.If outside the confines of what is written in said documents.Jimmy Joe”The Liarfryer

  • Stephan F.

    Excellent article that provoked a point I want to make. And this most important point has to do with just how this ‘mother of all frauds’ has been allowed to operate for so very long, and how it’s allowed to continuously create havoc without being challenged.

    The reasons are many, of course, but imho the two primary ones are: ignorance and self-interest combined with greed. It’s the ‘self-interest & greed’ aspect I believe needs to be exposed because, curiously, it never seems to catch the light of day. Why? Blindness & fear by the media (and even so-called ‘conservative’ pundits) — the topic is just too hot to handle by anyone. Let me explain.

    The Federal Reserve is no different than any other government created agency or program. And as we all know, once a government program, always a government program. It’s the closest thing mankind has come to creating perpetual motion. Once you start one, there’s no turning back. The first & foremost interest of gov’t bureaucrats, who are really the beneficiaries of any govt program, is to grow, slowly at first, and then faster & faster. Why — self-interest & greed. As the bureaucracy grows, more & more people jump on the bandwagon for their own personal enrichment. This in turn further induces more & more miscreants to join in on the fun with the intent of fattening their wallets too – govt jobs pay well, haven’t you heard? Then the agency or program starts co-opting others outside their group. In the Fed’s case, it’s the entire banking system! From there the sky’s the limit, and after awhile it seems that half the country is now advocating for even more bureacratic growth so we can “get more things done”. It’s become unstoppable, and slowing it down becomes impossible. Get in the way and be prepared to be steam-rolled. Again, it’s the same with all government agencies or programs.

    So, based on the preceding, my main point is this simple & logical question : are government employees, politicians, gov’t contractors, and anyone else drawing a check from the government enslaving private sector workers who pay for their livelihoods? Gee…… you think? (And I thought slavery ended somewhere around 1865).

    Feel free to copy, distribute, sell, use, quote, plagiarize, trash can, or do anything else you see fit with the ideas in presented here.

    We appreciate your writings, and please, keep spreading the word. Thanks for listening & Best Regards!

    Stephan F.

    • Lewis Munn

      Maybe we should all get jobs with the Fed and never have to worry again??

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Sorry, I will do without and suffer before I would join an illegal band such as theirs.

    • DaveH

      Very good, Stephan.

  • Demoncrat Exorcist

    The Federal Reserve should be done away with totally as should the EPA and the Education Department. The government has grown beyond the bounds set by our own Constitution, and the elected officials that are suppose to represent us are really representing their own interests.

    • shar

      The fed should go, the czars should go, all of the land grabs, sea grabs, food grabs, health grabs, everything should go – pray for this country that we can get it back from all of these Executive Orders and regulations taking us all over. It will make slavery look like a picnic.

      • Carlucci

        Everybody should join Nullifynow and ignore all the b.s. coming out of Fedzilla. California and Arizona ignored federal law regarding medical marijuana. People ignored Prohibition and made their own bootleg whiskey and bathtub gin. When the rubber meets the road, it is amazing how resourceful some people can be.

        • Robt Hauser

          That’s right…it is long past time when we took the law into our own hands the exact same way the signers of the Declaration did and the framers of the Constitution and bill of Rights. This country is cursed with more “laws” than people as hard as that may be to believe in this obscenely overpopulated world and country….there are at least three separate and distinct “laws” for every two people within our borders whether they belong here or not. There are times when I feel that there is but one place left in America where the Constitution is honored in the observance rather than in the gross breach….and that is the square foot I now stand on. But I am here and standing…and the oiligarchs and financial parasites that have usurped and usurized this country right out from under us know where they can go with their vastly unanimously ANTI Constitutional “laws” and what they can do with them when they get down there.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      The EPA, the IRS, the Dept. of Energy, and many many more need to go. And turn the schools over to private learning institutions, and look at all the billions of dollars, and the national debt would be paid, no problem. Of course, Im thinking clearly, and our government isnt.

  • David in Ma.

    But, doesn’t it all come down to Congress failing to do their job? Especially, for the last 6 to 8 years, the democrat controlled congress?
    Anyone who voted for or is considering voting to re-elect obama or his democrat puppets, should give serious thought to entering into counciling, they have a big problem with reality.
    I am convinced that the liberal mind is wired backwards, ever watch that jerk Alan Coombs (sp) on Fox? What a piece of work he is!

    • DaveH

      I agree about Alan, David. It is great that they have him, so the rest of us can see the Liberal mind in action.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Your right. And this guy Obama has been good in exposing the liberals for what they really are, as he keeps exposing their stupidity on most everything he approaches. Very, very revealing to those paying any kind of attention at all.

  • slim4x4

    I can’t find the constitutional amendment for the Federal Reserve Act.
    Only the part where Congress shall coin money.

    • Lewis Munn

      What has happened then to the good old silver dollar? Not seen any in a long long time. Is Congress falling down on its responsibility there?

    • shar

      The Secrets of the Federal Reserve on the Library of Congress website.

    • DaveH

      There wasn’t one, Slim4x4. It was created by an act of Congress in 1913.

  • Ken

    Dear Dude:
    I do not understand how so many american people think corporations pay taxes. I have estimated a number of projects for diferrent coroprations and can tell you that they simply add the taxes to the product that they are producing. In other words the person working for a wage pays 100% of all taxes in the good US of A.

    Also the 2.5 trillion dollars in the social security trust fund was spent by congress and replaced with treasury bills. In other words there is no money there as those bills will need to be redeamed with tax dollars. Good luck with that one

    They are all traitors and shouly be given a fair trial and then shot

    • Vicki

      Ken writes:
      “I do not understand how so many american people think corporations pay taxes.”

      DOE did it. Seriously. With the help of the MSM. The moment you go into business for yourself, optionally forming a corporation you KNOW that you have to pass on ALL expenses to your customers. If you don’t you do not stay in business.

      DOE=Dept of Education

    • JC

      And every dime of the income tax dollar goes to pay the interest on the loans from the Federal Reserve. Just the interest.
      Now there’s a Ponzi scheme of Grand Proportions.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Your wrong, or a liar. I work for a Corporation, and we pay thousands of dollars in taxes, federal, state, and local. Along with employee payroll income taxes. And lest you forget, we as people pay 7.5 percent social security tax, and the companies we work for, pay the other 7.5 percent. That is a large amount of taxes. And no, we do not up our cost to our customers to allow for this. Who do you work for? Have you ever had someone give you a job that doesnt have any money? Have you ever been give a job by someone who doesnt pay taxes? Then your working illegally. Your post has no truth in it sir. You are obviously a liberal that hates business, and may I remind you, without business, we are doomed as a country. Get over yourself.

  • Dewman

    I do believe that most (even FOX) of the TV forces are working to get Obama re-elected, “conservative” Charles Krauthammer labeled him the come-back kid within a few days of the mid-term. The lame duck was used to place the noose over our heads and now the FED has their hand on the drop gate handle. And almost no News outlets called them out, Obama called that productive. They love this guy, and can’t stand “We the People”.
    The Tucson gunman was “very convenient” for the anti-liberty crowd. We must stay the course, don’t be afraid to stand on righteousness, we are right.
    I’m a firm believer in Jefferson’s statement “A central bank is a greater threat than a standing army”. Jefferson was obviously referring to a real threat.
    It was President Abraham Lincoln who said: “The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, and more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces as public enemies all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe”.
    A Central Bank had been rejected by every president until Woodrow Wilson, now it is the norm. This has been going on a long time and will not stop. We must not give up in the struggle to get our nation back. Get involved in your local government. Don’t be led by your TV.

    The Congress has 2 basic duties, print money and to defend the border, in my opinion they do neither. Instead they spend their time devising new regulations to control us and take our money. We must back Ron Paul’s quest to audit the Fed. Hang tough this will take a long time to turn around, but at least there are many voices out there leading the way. …Buy American….
    Thanks John.
    PS, check out prisonplanet.tv, or google alex jones.

    • shar

      Any president that has questioned the federal reserve has had “trouble” in the form of attemted assasinations or assasinations. Look at Kennedy’s Executive Order #2111? I think that is correct. That caused him BIG trouble!

      • shar

        11110

      • shar

        Look at President Kennedy’s Executive Order 11110 and see what kind of trouble that got him into!! Scary!!

    • John Myers

      Dear Dewman,

      Thank you for reading and thanks for your mention of two books that only and hour ago I was speaking my editor about, Brave New World and 1984. I hope you and the other readers had the opportunity last night to watch the PBS show Frontline. “Are We Safer? …

      I think you will find this to be the correct Web link.
      http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/are-we-safer/#

      See if you can, pull it up and watch it. It is chilling.

      One last think I would like to say to my readers is that the Fed is a complex beast. When I was a young man just starting out my late father was good friends with Mr. Ed Durell who spent much of his later life trying to get to the bottom of what makes up the Fed. For any of you that would like to know more about trying to determine what the Federal Reserve is, I can suggest this book at: http://www.amazon.com/Banking-George-Edward-Durell-Foundation/dp/0913969745.

      Thanks again to you Dewman and to all you for reading and for sending your comments; even the ones that challenge me. They keep me and the rest of us on our toes.

      Yours in good times and in bad,

      John Myers

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      No sir, Fox News would have nothing to do with trying to get Obama elected. Obama and his liberal ilk hate Fox News, because they report the truth about the democrat liberals. No, Fox would not support him.

  • Patriot

    I find it very interesting that their is not one Liberal/progressive/Maxist posting to this article! The silence says it all!!!!

    • Karolyn

      And what is “it all”? I just have nothing to say.

      • S.C.Murf

        Then Karolyn you do admit that you are a Liberal/Progressive/Marxist?

        • JeffH

          S.C.Murf, give ‘em enough rope and they’ll always hang themselves.

        • Karolyn

          I admit to having left and progressive leanings; and most people here describe me as a lefty. However, I am too middle of the road to really be so labeled. I have only recently come to this conclusion after a lifetime of considering myself a leftist. I might add that this blog has contributed to my questioning my politics.

          • Vicki

            Karolyn may have come here as a liberal but she does have an open mind and she is rethinking some of her opinions.

          • DaveH

            Karolyn,
            Here’s an article I think you will be interested in:
            http://www.cato.org/pubs/catosletter/catosletterv9n1.pdf

          • Karolyn

            Great article, Dave.

          • http://foundersrevolution.blogspot.com/ Patriot1776

            Karolyn, I am glad to hear that you are open minded. If only more people were open to hearing the other side of things we might actually be able to come together as a people and see that we all want the same thing. Liberty.

          • denniso

            Being ‘open minded’ is a two way street, and I seldom meet modern rightwing people who are open to other opinions in the least.

          • Karolyn

            You are right Denniso, especially if they are Christians.

          • Vicki

            Karolyn writes:
            “You are right Denniso, especially if they are Christians.”

            Careful of backsliding Karolyn. Your open minded status presumes that you do NOT engage in ad hominem attacks. Doing so is prima facie evidence that your mind is not open.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Karolyn, you may have been on the left, but I see you coming out of it. You make intelligent posts on some things, and have revealed in some posts as to what your made of and what your thinking, and your not a left wing liberal. It would seem to me some have swayed you in the past to think a certain way, but your starting to see things as they are and are forming new thoughts about things as the day’s pass. Keep learning and investigating things, not taking what others say and what TV and newpapers say as the truth, but searching all avenues and making an educated stance. Your on the right track. You go girl.

          • Denniso

            Being open minded also doesn’t mean remaining ignorant…

    • JeffH

      There are a couple, they just haven’t “drawn any blood” yet.

    • mythbusting

      Hard to argue with facts that are the antidote to emotional ranting from the left crazies:

      http://www.federalreserve.gov/BOARDDOCS/SPEECHES/2002/20021121/default.htm

    • DaveH

      You need to look again, Patriot.
      They do seem to lay rather low when the subject of money is introduced. Could it be because they know little about money matters (except how to spend it)?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        And there is one more part about it they are good at Dave. Standing around and accepting it as a handout. A large portion of the left are living on government handouts, so they know how to receive free hand outs.

  • http://com i41

    All the years of Greenspan and Volker a bearing fruit and Helio Ben is just another pinhead. Never had any doubt that Fed Reserve wants Onumnutts back in office. Banking Reform Bill proved what a bunch of idoits that are known as the Nazi Soros Socialist Party. They gave hedge funds a pass on regulations, which Soros is a massive player in them, especially the mega ones. Now local banks are contolled by beltway morons who gets a loan. Seen how well that worked with Fannie and Freddie, both exempt from regs.

  • http://www.TomBlairEA.com Thomas Avery Blair EA

    Let’s face it…we are in an economic “war” and our nation is losing to those nations that are more conservative in their fiscal policies. “Generalisimo” Obama is surrendering our wealth to those nations and culture that will eventually use our wealth to acquire weapons to literally kill us and he apologizes to our enemies if and when our military does something right!
    .
    With “The Fed” backing him, Obama will indeed win the 2012 election that November. One has to wonder whether or not the portents of disaster surrounding that date of December 21st 2012 might not be another “day of infamy” in American history, and possibly or likely actually brought about by Mr. Obama’s economic and social policies and supported by the gutless and self-serving “talking heads” in the US Congress, on Wall Street, in the banking industry in general and “The Fed” in particular after all?

    At least food for thought, is it not?

    Respectfully submitted,

    Thomas Avery Blair, EA

  • Bitter Libertarian

    http://dailyreckoning.com/a-word-of-advice-to-financial-authorities/

    Heres a sampler…”

    Now, both America and Europe are the Old World. Their social welfare model is failing. It was developed as a response to the needs of the nation state in the early days of the industrial revolution. It was suited to an era with expanding populations, fast-growing wealth, large pools of factory labor and almost unlimited resources. Governments needed to keep the urban masses under control. It was no good to provide them with security, insist that they obey the laws, and let it go at that. The politician that promised only a dollar’s worth of benefit for a dollar’s worth of taxes was soon replaced by one who promised to give back $1.20…or $1.50. In theory, this made perfect sense. Once government became recognized as the servant of the people, rather than their master, the people had a right to get their moneys’ worth. And then, why would anyone willingly submit to the authority of a government if it delivered no more than the citizen could get on his own? Why allow yourself to be forced to pay into the government’s social security program, for example, if it paid out no better than a private plan? Or, if the government’s health care system delivers no more or better service than you can get from private plans, what’s the point?

    The promise of government’s social welfare projects was that they would take money from the few rich and the many as yet unborn in order to give it to poor and middle class voters. That is, voters thought they could get something for nothing. And, for a very long time, governments could deliver. They simply relied on the next wealthier, larger generation to make good on promises made to the previous one. It worked for 150 years. But now the next generations are often smaller. And maybe poorer. The old live longer. And there are more of them. The rich are too few to pay the bills. The rate of growth has slowed down. The return on additional inputs of debt have turned negative, while trillions in unpaid debt and commitments comes due.

    Again, governments in the Old World have borrowed and promised too much. But rather than default honestly and openly, (forcing the people who lent imprudently to take the losses) they try to put the burden of the losses onto the innocent citizen…and the unenlightened investor.”

    • Dewman

      You nailed it.
      ” The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other peoples money” Margret Thatcher

  • Eric Bischoff

    Get real already! everything is not about Obama or Sara Palin.

    Every time we REACT without thinking things through we are skirting with disaster.

    I have always been one who wondered how we could ever allow the Fed for so long but we have a lot other problems as well.

    Our capitalist system is based on perpetual growth which some people are finally starting to realize is NOT SUSTAINABLE.

    Our massive appetite for stuff and lots of stuff is driving our economy and the world economy but that’s NOT SUSTAINABLE.

    Our captains of industry’s never ending search for ever cheaper labor and deregulation is also NOT SUSTAINABLE

    Another massive intricate part of our economy is the Military Industrial Complex. Our Empire and hegemony is NOT SUSTAINABLE.

    Our energy systems are old and antiquated and massively inefficient. The carbon era is coming to an end, it is NOT SUSTAINABLE.

    Let’s face it our systems and our behavior is why we are sick and the planet is sick. It is bankrupting us.

    But we have to make some intelligent decisions. Do we blow it all up and have a a blood in the streets revolution as a lot of you seem to want and then go through generations of misery, poverty, high crimes, killings and lawlessness. What’s that gonna solve besides letting the criminals take over. Just look at Russia.

    Or do we roll up our sleeves and act like the beacon of light the world expects us to be and figure out calmly and intelligently how to gradually change our model without violence to a new and better system based on all we’ve learned. A new system that the rest of the world will want to emulate.

    A system that values ALL people and the environment equally with business and profits. The only decision we need to make is, are we in here for the long run or just for our own short term greed?

    • Bitter Libertarian

      “Or do we roll up our sleeves and act like the beacon of light the world expects us to be and figure out calmly and intelligently how to gradually change our model without violence to a new and better system based on all we’ve learned. A new system that the rest of the world will want to emulate.”

      I agree 100%. The problem is that many people are feeling squeezed, and in many ways for good reasons. Their elected decision/law makers are not listening, sooooooooo how can these people make a peaceful change when their peaceful tatics are ignored. I am not advocating bloody, violent revolution but Eric you and I both know either the people running the Govt are going to get more violent, or the people are..either way Humanity will decide its had enough.

      The interesting topic is what will spark it!

      • DaveH

        Bitter,
        I suggest you reread Eric’s post, carefully. He is not advocating Freedom like you and I.

    • Dewman

      So do we turn over our illusion of freedom, for an all controlling, all knowing benevolent central government. Like in China where you work, live and die in a work camp, for the good of the mother country. Collectivism is not the answer.
      I agree that our system where the uber rich get richer while the populous watch Snookie is stupid, but the couch potato is free to be the best couch potato that he can be. And the CEO of The Home Depot can give himself a multimillion dollar bonus while paying the average employee $11.00 an hour, and we all support his decision because either we own his stock or we purchase his product.
      The only thing that works is people being interested and involved and not being so selfish that we compromise our principals as long as we get ours and the other guy lives in a labor camp so that we can have cheap crap.
      Which is the best golden rule; He who has the gold makes the rules. Or “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”

    • eddie47d

      Good reasoning Eric and you too Libertarian at 9:12am

    • Carlucci

      Eric, I think you meant “flirting with disaster”, not “skirting with disaster”.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      You made some good points, until you came upon the carbon era not being sustainable. I believe it is for a long, long, long time. There is coal and oil everywhere that no one for one has tapped into, and much much more that they havent even looked for yet, and more is being made underground where they have already been. And no, I do not believe for one minute that our burning oil and coal will ever destroy our air or ozone layer. Its just not going to happen.

      • Denniso

        So it’s not going to happen because you say so? Despite virtually all climate scientists disagreeing w/ you? But you are also a scientist as well,right? No? My mistake…

  • Raggs

    http://dailybail.com/home/there-are-no-words-to-describe-the-following-part-ii.html

    Want to know where your money is?…. Watch the link above.

  • Lewis Munn

    Well, we persecute private schools, especially if church-related and having and teaching good morals. Also if teaching real economics.

    We let the public schools kick out the moral teachers and add courses in immorality.

    We glorify winning, at any cost.

    What can we expect, really?

    • Karolyn

      Can you show incidents of “moral” teachers being kicked out? It is my understanding that it is really hard to fire teachers unless it’s due to breaking of laws. Also, I have not heard of immorality being taught.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Karaolyn, Don’t worry its coming, the State of NJ has proposed dropping tenure to five year!__If your a good teacher you stay, if not, your out!__Why should tax payers be forced to pay the saleries of lousy teachers, teaching they’re children???__Its time they’re weeded out and it’s to take some that union power, and give it BACK we the people!

        • Karolyn

          I agree, Angel. Having seen Oprah’s show on “Waiting for Superman” and the way bad teachers continue to teach despite producing undereducated kids, I feel the same way.

      • 45caliber

        Karolyn:

        It’s only been a few months since a Christian coach was fired from a school in Minnesota because one of the Muslim boys on his wrestling team announced he was Christian. The coach said he had said or done nothing to convert the boy, but the principal was Muslim too and was firing as many Christian teachers as he could, replacing them with Muslims. I forgot the school site but I’m sure you can find it on internet if you look. I would say that the coach was a moral person fired for doing his job. And that is only one example.

        • DaveH

          Please research that, 45, and post a link. That would be important information if you can back it up.

        • Karolyn

          I would say it would be impossible to fire teachers because they were Christian. That would surely be in the courts. You can’t even fire them if they’re bad teachers! I would also think the coach would be in court too.

        • JeffH

          45caliber, this happened in Michigan.

          Dearborn schools settle with Christian coach fired by Muslim principal. A wrestling coach who claimed he lost his job at a suburban Detroit high school because of his Christian beliefs settled the lawsuit for $24,500.

          Gerald Marszalek, 65, was a coach at Fordson High School, where Muslim students are a majority. He said his troubles with the principal began in 2005 when a volunteer assistant, the Rev. Trey Hancock, introduced some wrestlers to Christianity during a camp away from school.

          Marszalek’s contract wasn’t renewed in 2008 after 35 years. The Dearborn district had denied any discrimination and said the coach was an at-will employee who reported to the principal, Imad Fadlallah.
          Fadlallah, described as a devout Muslim, recently left as Fordson principal under Michigan’s enhanced retirement program for school employees.

          In an interview Tuesday, Marszalek acknowledged the settlement amount wasn’t much. He said he closed the case based on advice from his lawyers.

          “It’s over. He’s gone,” Marszalek said of Fadlallah. “Hopefully they will be more careful. The wrestling program went down the dumper.”
          http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2010/10/09/dearborn-schools-settle-with-christian-coach-fired-by-muslim-principal/

          • HFlashman

            He settled for how much? On advice of attorneys? (my guess is the amount settled for is the exact amount of his fees).

            OK..he didn’t have a case. Now what was that about firing Christian teachers? You’d think there’d be a ton of lawsuits if it were the case…instead we get a coach who was dismissed…and settled for nothing.

            Or is someone going to state that Michigan judges are all Muslims as well and discriminating against Christians?

          • DaveH
        • DaveH

          All any doubters need do is to look at the countries in this list of Muslim Majority countries and then look each up in relation to the amount of religious freedom they allow (use search terms: countryname + “religious freedom”):
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_majority_countries

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I wouldnt doubt that at all, especially when your dealing with a state that would willingly elect one Al Franken. That says a lot.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        When they started teaching that we grew from a bird pooping on a rock and the sun fermented it and up we stood, instead of teaching kids the truth, that God created them, immorality was being taught. When we started teaching kids that its good to have two dads and no mom, or two moms and no dad, we started teaching immorality. When we tell the kids that they cant pray in school, immoral. When we teach them in 6th grade how to put on a condom, immoral. And Im sure Ive missed a few.

  • LiarsMustBeDefeated

    When I say liar I include people who repeat lies unintentionally. Many of these liars don’t know they are lying. Think for yourself and act accordingly. By itself THAT will bring about big changes.

  • http://! Angel Wannabe

    Eric, What isn’t sustainable is the “crazy” regulation imposed on industry and manufacturing over the years, thats driven them all off shoreand The Jobs went with them!__ I did a study just in our town alone last_I collected several newspapers articles, and in the last 35 years 21 manufactures & industries left our town.

    Now The first reason they shut down, was no co-peration with the Unions & comapnies. The second was EPA & regulation, 3rd reason for shut downs were, owners death and mismanagement of new CEOs. Now, I’m no economics genuis eric, but why is it you can’t see, what all the tax and regulation has done to this country?!___Its not JUST OUR TOWN!

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      Eric, forgive the typos_Thanks

      • Eric Bischoff

        No need to apologize for typos but I say it’s about GREED.

        • DaveH

          Do you think it’s not about Greed when somebody takes somebody else’s money? Do you think it’s not about Greed when Government officials grow their power and perks?
          Do you think, given that there are a percentage of people that are sociopaths in our society (in any society), that those sociopaths are somehow excluded from serving in Government where they have the power of Force?

    • Eric Bischoff

      I am sure you are right Angel, everything is because we levy taxes and regulate and it’s the immigrants stealing our jobs and those damn unions trying to make sure we have 40 hour work weeks, vacation and sick pay and safety regulations and no child labor. What were we thinking? We should eliminate all of it and go back to being in the middle ages and may the strongest and meanest or most armed win. That way business will thrive (for a while) and people will be working for slave wages and some can party until it all completely falls apart. Oh and let’s not forget XE corporation will be the only police and fire force left and they will only protect the super wealthy. If that’s what you favor than so be it.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Eric, C’mon__This is not the the late 1800 or 1900′s!_Children aren’t used as slave labor any longer in the US! There are no 7 year old “Newsy Boys” selling newspapers til all the hours of the night on a loney street corner.16-20 straight work are a thing of the past.
        The Unions of the day are gone!__They’ve grown corrupt like everything thing else and have out grown they’re need!
        My husband was in the Union and a Union rep to boot. Unions aren’t for those that follow the rules, Unions are for keeping the trouble makers azz’z outta trouble!__Meanwhile back at the ranch__They continue to collect money from individuals, they’ll probably NEVER HAVE TO DEFEND!__They’re nothing more than a glorified insurance company!

        • Eric Bischoff

          You are right this isn’t the 1800′s but what you gloss over is that the people you can’t stand, progressives and liberals are the ones who fought the conservatives for all of these improvements in our society. Do you really think they are going to stand by and watch all of their gains in society destroyed by people who are hell bent on going backwards, with no other strategy for all problems than lower taxes, deregulate and destroy only the parts of govt that are supposed to protect us except of course for the military and prison industrial complex.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Eric, The Unions did they’re good duty. But the Unions just as greedy as the corporations you accuse. It depends on how you see it going backwards Eric, going forward(Progressivism) is NOT always in everyone’s or everythings best interest. Some are better left to stand, or back away from.

      • DaveH

        We can flap our jaws all we want about whether regulations are good or not, and get nowhere. Experience is the best teacher. Pick individual links to get information about each country’s ranking. Learn the reality of regulation (The Governors get richer or more powerful, the rest suck eggs):

        http://heritage.org/index/ranking

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Let me for one minute expose your lie in giving unions credit for something, that I know for a fact is an out and out lie. I work for a non union electrical contractor, who pays our guys almost the same as the union scale, but actually more, because they are driving around 26,000.00 fully equipped company vans with a company gas card that costs them nothing, and they take it home every night. Then they get paid vacations and paid holidays, and the boss know their wife’s name and their kids names. The union electricians around here, they get no paid vacations, and no paid holidays, and either do any of the union construction workers. Only those who work as what they call inside labor with a company. But it isnt because of unions we get paid vacations and holidays, because we get them here, but my buddies that are union electricians they dont get them at all, and never had. Then there is that other thing. Our guys work year round, and dont get laid off. The union electricians get laid off each and every winter around year, with the exception of a very few. Those sir, are the facts. And actually, many of our jobs, are getting called back to places where the unions got the bid on a job, and cut corners and used undersized wire and pipe and breakers and screwed up a lot, and yet it seems once they complete the job, they are gone and not liable for it. Unbelievable. My company guarantee’s their work, for as long as that company is in business. I guess that is why we are busy all the time. And like one that got hit by lighting, and called us desperate for help, we had 6 guys there within an hour and a half to get them going. Try that with the unions. It would be like this – “Yeah, we will get a guy there next week some time. We will call you and let you know”. Yeah, its kind of like that. But these are just the facts, I know, I live it.

        • Denniso

          And you think that your pay would stay where it is if the unions were gone? They fight for livable wages for skilled workers like electricians and that influences all the wages in the field. The only reason you get a decent wage is because of the unions. See if you can’t figure it out.

    • Raggs

      Angel…. Did you know that obama wants to go through all of the past many years regulations that are not in use today and reinstate them?

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Raggs_ Nah I didn’t hear that one yet Raggs, I’m not surprised in the least, Obama is Hell bent on takin’ all of us down to Socialism.
        I can attest to the fact that we all have our idealogies how the Country should be run. But I CANNOT fathom that the Obama Admin insists, what they do is for the good of the Country, no way in hell! The only thing they do, is for the good of themselves and they get us to pay for it_ all the way around!

        • lallyby

          It could be that they are trying to evade war with the emerging India,China,and other parts of the world where character,and philanthropy are forbidden by their religion.Karma is a strange thing to have held against you by 3 billion people.Our way is not their way,and it seems as though the powers that be think their way might be superior at this point.One day we will know what the truth is,but it’s not TOday.It seems as though the President and his cabinet have already voted for their version of truth.Maybe”Dubya”plumbed him up,before he took control and all these things had been set in motion already.”Hard tellin’ not knowin’,”a friend of mine always said.But only time,and competent Historians(something that does not exsist these days)will tell the tale.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Bush-Cheney-Halliburton. Get over yourself. After 2 years, its all on Obama and his Chicago thuggery. They have failed, and failed miserably, and now they are without power, and they are going home. Get educated and quit pointing fingers. Its as old and worn out as the race card. Its dead and gone.

      • Karolyn

        Obama has instructed all agencies to go over all regulations and get rid of those that aren’t necessary. Quite the opposite of your post.

        • 45caliber

          And those regs that aren’t necessary are those that restrict what the government can do.

        • JeffH

          Karolyn, you’re correct on that. It was done with an executive order.
          Still, the executive order, similar to one former President Bill Clinton signed in 1993, doesn’t cover independent agencies, including those that oversee the financial services industry such as the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Federal Reserve.
          http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110118/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_regulations

        • HFlashman

          Karolyn…did you expect them to tell the truth about Obama’s regulatory reform order? Even as Obama does something which they’ve been clamoring about yapping their gums…they can’t bring themselves to tell the truth about it. They twist it into a lie, then call it (the lie) proof he’s sending us into ‘socialism’ (whatever that means at any given point in their discussion)

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Waaaaait a minute there flashman, I think I said “I didn’t see that yet?!”_-Don’t be so quick to jump to conclusions.

          • JeffH

            Wah, wah, wah! The only one twisting on this is you HFlash.

  • robert k

    on 12-2-2010 USA today published an article which revealed that the top 8 US banks were “given ” 9.39 TRILLION DOLLARS to keep them solvent. [ money- section "B" ]

  • Aix Sponsa

    “He who has ears to hear, let him hear.”
    The time for telling is soon past.
    The time is soon coming to stand up for what you believe.
    There are those who talk, and those who act.
    Pray that your time of flight is not in winter.

  • http://outlookexpress Edwin

    The fed may be a genius on the economy but every citizen knows that when you can’t climb out of the hole; quit digging. We all have the common sense that we have to have a budget and spend what we have and not assume we will go from minimum wage to being a millionaire. The whole fault is giving a thieving government an open account without any restrictions. If our government were truly serving the public there would be a freeze on spending on most of the bureauracies bringing it in line with the revenue brought in.
    If you had a spoiled contemptious child would you give them your credit card and car keys and not be concerned? I think not but that is what the public has done with a bunch of common thieves called government.

    • Eric Bischoff

      Yes but WE Americans are the ones who run for govt and get elected and then get corrupted and never do what we campaigned to do. WE Americans run the govt, WE are the thieves. WE are the cheaters always looking for ways around laws. WE are the teachers. WE are the overpaid CEOs which deep down inside you all wish you could be. You all talk about the problem areas like they are foreigners we should just do away with. How is that going to solve anything.

      Can we start with a law that says that you must raise my pay and make whole the amount of money I have saved every time you devalue the dollar by printing more?

      • Vicki

        Attempt at guilt by association. Including teachers and CEOs with thieves and cheaters.

        Attempt at guilt by association by claiming that some (most?) of the few who are elected and then become corrupt are the same as “We, the People”

        Our forefathers warned us that our form of government was meant for a moral and religious people and is wholly unsuited to any other.

  • pam

    The bad taste in my mouth about this administration just gets worse and worse’ and if he gets bck in office in 2012, then hope the Mayans are right because it will definitely be the end of this country as we know and love it! I saw that ABC special last night. Started out all about Gabby and her astronaut husband at her side. And I ws movedof course. Then it turned into political Repeal Obamacare Voteday Eve propoganda. And I turned it off! Personally I believe this should be voted on by real people – the American people! Not a manipulated bought government body making decisions for us!

  • 45caliber

    The Rothchilds owns the Federal Reserve. They also make all their money by buying and selling various currencies around the world.

    This is the reason Ron Paul and others have called for an audit of the Federal Reserve. They print and issue millions of dollars a year – but who is to say that they don’t print billions more for their own use? They can then use those extra dollars to buy foreign currencies while selling dollars that cost them only a few cents printing costs. They get richer and the US gets weaker as more dollars appear that no one knew about. (That is one reason that the government doesn’t like counterfeit money. It lowers the value of real money.)

    It USED TO BE that the dollar was to be shored up and maintained as the base against what all other currencies were floated. But that changed once the Euro began to be used.

    When the dollar was to be shored up, in times of troubled economies, they would raise the prime rate interest – which reduced the amount of dollars available. That would stabilize the currency – even though I wasn’t always happy about it – and keep the dollar worth something.

    But now in this economy situation, they are no longer trying to stabilize it. In stead they are making more dollars out of worthless paper and “buying” treasury notes made of worthless paper. The dollar gets weaker and weaker, which gives them more ability to buy and sell.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    To Jeff H,
    I didn`t know Bernanke was a cousin to the Rothschilds.George Soros answers only to Jacob Rothschild, or to Jacobs son, Anthony.It makes me wonder what and if Bernanke has any
    thing going on with Soros.It would be very intersting to know.In the grace of God,I hope not.However, I do believe the powers in Washington
    are truley trying to destroy America and our way of life.Obama said,”he
    was going to transform America and spread the wealth, not only here
    but through out the whole world.” WE do know that the Rothschild`s,George
    Soros believe in one world goverment.The question is,if Obama and Bernanke also believe this?This will explain why the Fed are printing
    a lot more money.We are heading to become the Weimar Republic in one
    hell of a hurry.Pleas America, stop these people,before it`s to late.

    • JeffH

      The ultimate goal is a “one World Government” governed by the eletists at the top of the food chain. The top dog is the Rothschilds Banking Cabal. Our government has been infected, from the top down, with these “One World Government” supporters.

  • DaveH

    If you read nothing else about the Federal Reserve, read this article. Short and excellent:
    http://www.forbes.com/2010/11/24/dollar-inflation-federal-reserve-opinions-contributors-lawrence-hunter_2.html

  • Mary

    I agree with Pam. Congress will never get it because they are being controlled by the large corporations of this country. I am saddened but not surprised to see that the Republicans are going to waste 230 billion in an effort to repeal Obama healthcare because the insurance industry put many of them in office and is collecting favors OR lobbied them so hard they cave to the gifts given to them to vote their way. We will never have a government for the people until we drastically change the rules regarding political campaigns and rid congress of lobbyists put in there by large business. I say forbid all candidates from spending money to get elected and also we should shorten the campaign time frame. Good candidates can’t get in Congress because they go broke trying to fight the corporate candidates with endless sums of money and as they run out of money they also run out of time so pull from campaigns or get weeded out by the wealthy. Why is everyone running for office now when they just got into office… President Obama has two years left and he is already campaigning. It is way out of control. No one spends time on the real issues facing Americans. All they ever do is campaign before the election and then use their office to get re-elected. When do they ever do any work to help us? Look closely… they don’t work on anything for us. I say thrown them all out of office and start from scratch with new rules that cut out campaign contributions and shorten the timeframe for campaigning.

    • Vicki

      Mary writes:
      “Congress will never get it because they are being controlled by the large corporations of this country.”

      Not corporations. ONE corporation. The Federal Reserve.

  • Pete NY “R I P FEDERAL RESERVE BANK”

    When did the Fed actually stop being a model Federal Reserve Bank? You are too dam kind to the monster.

  • DaveH

    Here is another excellent article:
    http://mises.org/daily/1353

    Note that the panic of 1907 (the centerpiece of a recession which lasted from may 1907 to jun 1908) was the main excuse used for the establishment of the Federal Reserve. It was a 1-year recession.
    Contrast that to the Great Depression, many smaller recessions since, and then the current economic recession/depression.
    Yep, the Federal Reserve really saved us from calamity (Not!).

  • Baba

    Rembember the words of President Jefferson about banking.

  • 57girl

    The Federal Reserve is a traitor to the American people and the nation it has sworn to protect.
    ***********
    Okay, now I’m confused. When has the Federal Reserve ever sworn to protect the Nation? Their sole purpose is to counterfeit money at interest to enhance their private banking portfolio. The Federal Reserve really has nothing to do with our Government aside from the fact that they convinced two or three Congressmen in 1913 that they were the answer to our Nation’s problems. We’ve gone down hill every since. In cahoots with Obama, they are minting money from nothing and raking in millions in interest, while Obama continues to weld the power of the Presidency. Both sides win, while the people of this Nation continue to get screwed. I hope Ron Paul will shine the light once and for all on the real function of the Federal Reserve. Believe me, they are not our friend and they are not protecting us. Quite the contrary.

  • Jeff

    My father served in WWII as a Navigator/Bombardier on a B-24 Liberator and was shot down over Romainia. After the camp, in which he was held prisoner was liberated by Russian troops, he came back to the states to serve 19 more years with the U.S. Air Force before retiring honorably. I served 22 years (honorably) with the U.S. Army and visited Vietnam and Iraq (Desert Storm) in combat tours. My two other brothers served honorably in the Navy/Army as well. WE ALL served our country as did thousands of other Americans to defend and protect the Constitution and the Judeo/Christian lifestyle from those who would destroy it all.

    Before my Dad died (thankfully)from Leukemia in October 2001, I overheard him remark to a fellow military retired friend from his hospital bed, as they watched the news coverage of the 9/11 destruction, “What have they done to our country?” At the time and until just recently, I had believed he had meant the terrorists as “they”, but today and after all that America has witnessed since the twin towers fell, I truly believe my Dad meant “they” as the US Govt, Congress, CFR, Bilderbergers, Fed, Skull/Bones, World Bank and the global financial elites.

    Ever since the American experiment began, there have been factions and secret groups within and without the institutions of government whose main goal was to corrupt the present system, destroy it’s libertarian ideology and reshape it’s cultural structure into something other than what Jefferson, Adams and Franklin intended.

    Americans, then and up to now, have lived, worked and died believing in the Bill of Rights, the Constitution and the American dream. The secret inner circle of the evil elite in every generation belived in a separate standard: They lived, worked and died to pass the torch of manipulation and control to the next generation, knowing the Bill of Rights, the Constitution and the dream were all a sham. The purpose of the sham was to keep the people in line long enough so that one day “they” would bring about a one world conglomerate in which a small governmental body controls it all (Read “The Unseen Hand” by A. Ralph Epperson).

    Finally, I believe that the United States and Israel were the only countries remaining that delayed the global elite (Illuminati) from accomplishing it’s final goal of world governance. THEY believe that without the ability of the U.S.to aid Israel’s defense, it will be snuffed out quickly. THEY are going to bring America to its knees soon and the only HOPE any of us can have for our future,that of OUR loved ones and grand-children is found in the LOVE of Jesus Christ. Without Christ there is eternal darkness.

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      Jeff, Thanks be to you and your Families service for us & America__God Bless you and Yours!

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Jeff__ a lot of folks know about the Illuminati and The Secret Societies, sadly not enough believe it. Its also the real reason behind the constant Christian persecution. As the NWO is spelled out for those with ears to hear in the Bible.

    • Antonio

      Jeff I think that you are a little off on the ILLUMINATI subject. The fact is that the illuminati owns and runs America. Take a look at all the signs and syymbols, if, you know what they are. For the Pentagon was designed from thier great symbol called the pentagram. Most of you people know this symbol BUT do not know its real name. It is your “star”. Yes, a five pointed star is a pentagram and that is the symbol of the ILLUMINATT and there is 50 of them on our flag and the 13 strips are to resembel the 13 families that control your world the is for the 13 layers that make the incomplete pyrimad on the back of your dollar. And JEFF i know that you served in the military thank you but sit there and the US is the only one stopping the illuminati. i have a channel on youtube where you can watch my videos, if, you want to. http://www.youtube.com/frombabeltoireland click the upload botton and watch my series “the 2012 nwo agenda 1/13″ i go all back to NIMROD so i hope you dont lost. by the way here is what henry kissinger thinks about you.

      “Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy.” – Henry Kissinger

      • kate8

        Antonio – I checked out your site and watched the first video. I am going to check out the ones you suggest, as well. Very interesting.

        Here’s another one you might find enlightening. Two parts.

        The man being interviewed I found to be most credible and qualified to speak on the subjects. The first video is on the use of false-flags, past and to come.

        The second is on what’s happening with our eco-system, why the fish, birds and other life is dying in large numbers, and where it’s going.

        The most credible and startling information to date, especially for those who aren’t aware of just how far technology has come.

        http://dprogram.net/2011/01/18/jeff-rense-with-dr-bill-deagle-animal-die-offs-earth-in-peril/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wordpress%2FBcwy+%28Deprogram%29&utm_content=Yahoo%21+Mail

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          kate8, I watched them ALL, I just finished. Awesome vids, well worth the time!

        • Dan az

          Kate
          Remember when I said that my kid was cid and filmed that bombing well he spent 6yrs in levenworth after that even after he gave the camera over to the suits there.This just proves that it was an inside job or false flag that I have been saying for so long.Thanks for the site!

      • JeffH

        Antonio, have you explored to this website yet?
        True Conspiracies, the Illuminati and One World Government
        http://www.trueconspiracies.com/

      • JeffH

        Antonio, this is another website that I have found both fascinating and interesting.
        Sinister Sites – Israel Supreme Court
        The Israel Supreme Court is the creation of one elite family: the Rothschilds.
        http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1229

    • Will-CA

      God Bless you and your family Jeff. I Thank you and your family’s service. America couldn’t exist without great Americans like you.

      God, give us grace to accept with serenity
      the things that cannot be changed,
      Courage to change the things
      which should be changed,
      and the Wisdom to distinguish
      the one from the other.

      Living one day at a time,
      Enjoying one moment at a time,
      Accepting hardship as a pathway to peace,
      Taking, as Jesus did,
      This sinful world as it is,
      Not as I would have it,
      Trusting that You will make all things right,
      If I surrender to Your will,
      So that I may be reasonably happy in this life,
      And supremely happy with You forever in the next.

      Amen.

    • John Myers

      Dear Jeff,
      Thank you for you thoughtful comments and thanks to you and your family for life-times of service given to America. I am very appreciative of you and other readers.

      Sincerely,

      John Myers

      PS — I am a huge history buff, especially the air war of WW II. Last night I just finished reading my Christmas present, a book given to me by our eldest son who is a teacher in London. The book is called: The Battle of Britain: Five months that changed history May-October 1940. It was published only a few months ago.

      You can look at a link to it at: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Battle-Britain-Changed-History-May-October/dp/0312675003.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      He is the ONLY hope, and He is the only thing the darkness cannot cover up. In the end, the Light will prevail, but before He does, darkness will cover all the earth.

  • Robert

    We need to throw obama out, The new govnor of Hawaii, cannot locate a birth certificate for Mr. O. How sweet it would be to toss him out. Prosecute polosi fo vetting him in the first place and make the new speaker acting pres.

  • S.C.Murf

    I have a question, The bible talks about the last day’s and a time when all Arab nations come against Israel and are defeated, then Russia join’s them and they are defeated, then China and N. Korea head towards Israel and this is when Jesus returns before this world is destroyed with Nukes, Where in God”s name is the U.S.,England and G.B.? Why are we not mentioned in the end times as not coming to Israels rescue? What has happened to us? Anybody got a clue? Are we going down the tubes?

    • Bitter Libertarian

      If your broke, no longer a top world player, or in civil war, you cant send an army….

      Its also stated (not an exact quote) “So to shall it be like the days of Noah when the son of God comes again” IMHO … we not exactly there yet if you understand what it was like then..

    • BobbyB

      Um, when the bible was written by men years ago, they didn’t know the US was here. The earth was still flat

      • S.C.Murf

        The bible was written by God thru man. So what your saying is that God didn’t know the U.S. would be here at this point in time? Get real

        • Karolyn

          God may have known, but man did not and did not write about it; so I guess God didn’t tell them about it.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Karaolyn, EVERYTHING is spelled out in the Bible. What matters is, how far you are in your walk with GOD, what’s been revealed to you, and whether or not you accept it.

    • Teresa

      SC…We WILL be One World Order before the return of Jesus Christ. Russia Will be a great power again, for Jerusalem will be taken, the women raped…this is during the reign of the antichrist. This will also be a time when the Lords word will be almost unheard around the world. Russia (and others)will be struck down by Gods sword when he returns for they will come to destroy Isreal. This, as told will NOT happen. There will be a calling of all nations to meet of peace….(this will be by lies) the final battle will be where????….Mt. Zion…..we are not there yet….you only think we have seen hard times….

      • HFlashman

        Whoa…

        Just for curiousity…those who are non members of the sect you belong to…what are you projecting our fate to be ?

    • Teresa

      Here is a little hope for you to SC
      http://www.cufi.org/site/PageServer?pagename=Brogs_blog

    • kate8

      S.C. Murf – They are mentioned, if you know what you are looking for.

      Britain is the Lion, the US and other western countries are young lions, and America is the eagle. Russia is the bear, etc.

      The symbols used also represent all the elements of creation: the eagle is water, the lion is fire, the bull is earth and the man is air.

      Once you learn the codes used in scripture, you know how to decipher what it says. With God there is no time, no past nor future. God sees all as He exists outside of time.

      Plus, history repeats over and over. What is has been before, and will be again. There is nothing new under the sun. All of creation operates in cycles, whether we want to believe it or not. The Universe is alive, and within it are many cycles within cycles, wheels within wheels, all interacting and interplaying in perfect order.

      Ask for guidance from Spirit and persevere in your study. Now is the time things are being revealed to those who watch.

    • Dave M

      We will be shopping at Wallmart.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      All the Arab nations did come after Israel in the 6 or 7 day war in 1967, depending on what account you read, and Israel defeated them all. As for mentioning these other countries in the Bible, I have never read them listed as such. Some think when it says “the bear” it is Russia, but not necessarily so. In Rev. 16:16, it is written that all the Kings will be gathered at Armageddon. And in Rev. 17:12, it refers to the 10 kings who have not yet received a kingdom, which is believed to be when we come under the rule of a 10 nation one world government, and that is what the world is gearing towards right now. But as for mentioning the list of countries you mentioned, I see them in there nowhere at all, so I would like to know where you got this information from.

  • ONTIME

    This administration promised it would induce extreme hardship on the citizens and if there are any doubters out there then your real time and fantasy time are definately confused but a few more monetary hits on your income will solve this doubt, it won’t do a damn thing for getting this country back up and running.

    The Fed has been a thorn in the backside of this country for far to long and oversight is needed, the only way this can take place is to either brutally revolt or push these electees to the point of a mental break down to put that kind of public oversight in place. Without forcing these types of controls and transparency, there is no hope the Fed will perform in a legal or ethical manner.

    • Anthony

      Oversight, my a$$ ….. it needs to die.

      THE FED needs a good dose of Andy (by god) Jackson.

      • JC

        Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin!

        Every man is equally entitled to protection by law; but when the laws undertake to add… artificial distinctions, to grant titles, gratuities, and exclusive privileges, to make the rich richer and the potent more powerful, the humble members of society — the farmers, mechanics, and laborers — who have neither the time nor the means of securing like favors to themselves, have a right to complain of the injustice of their government.

        Andrew Jackson

        Amen that Anthony

  • Pegasus66

    Glad I struggled to the end of this long list of posts – - Jeff, you are so right. I have The Unseen Hand (Epperson was wrong about Jesse James but not much else.)

    There is a new book, Crisis by Design by John Truman Wolfe (2010) that deals strictly with the banking industry and its financial arms, naming names. Goldman Sachs figures prominently. You all would enjoy reading this book. 170pp. You see exactly why government and business and all the other players just can’t quite seem to “get it right”. Their theories/game plans fail to “see” the total control of the global central banks. The ultimate power rests with the Bank of International Settlements (BIS) and its brand new Financial Stability Board (FSB). All true power rests here and is TOTALLY unaccountable to any elected authority anywhere. The FSB will make or break currencies and countries according to globalist interests. READ THE BOOK.

    • Anthony

      Will have to look at the local Book Store.

      All Amazon.com had was in paperback.

  • chuckb

    how funny, about everyone here has an opinion qbout bernanke and places the blame on him, next they blame bush, how ridiculous. the democratic congress and senate are as much to blame as anyone. barry was a sitting senator when the tarp bill was voted on and yes, he voted for tarp and if you go back and check he voted yes on every disastrous bill. then we made this idiot president and for two years we have had a democratic president, demo majority senate and congress. it doesn’t take einstein to figure this one out. you can shut down the federal reserve and shut down wall st, i don’t believe there is a way out of this mess without repealing and reforming healthcare, shut down all emigration into this country. remove the illegal population, open up our oil reserves and break up the oil company monopoly. divorce ourselves from saudi arabia and first of all remove all senators and congressmen who have grownup in wash. d.c. apply new terms for the representatives. most of all send barry back to kenya.

    • Anthony

      Actually, Chuck … Woodrow Wilson was a PROGRESSIVE.

      And, even then, no matter how you grifted the language, it was a semblence of communist philosphy in of itself. It is the Progressives who have cornered the market under false illusions and gullible/weak, lazy, cowardly Americans who were and still are, always about SOMEONE ELSE DOING THE FIGHTING.

      Ronald Reagan said it best: “Trust, …but verify!”

      In 1914, anyone who had disagreed with the creation of THE FEDERAL RESERVE, fuond themselves as Losers in the election that year. A very clear message was sent in 1914 that has reverberated in the so-called Hallowed Halls of Congress ever since. You give THE FED a hard time, you will be fired and quickly. Either pucker up or get out. That’s the true nature of being Stupid enough to give away “control of our own currency” to a private cartel.

      What’s worse, is generation after generation has allowed this travesty to remain in place. Most prefer to sit in denial. And, that’s a sad statement to make about America.

      • JC

        Woodrow Wilson:
        Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.

      • JC

        Woodrow Wilson:
        I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.

  • Norbert Ueberschaar

    C’MON AMERICA AND WHOLE WORLD – WE HAVE TO GET RID AS SOON AS POSSIBLE OF THAT G.D. B.H.O., AN ISLAMIC INFILTRATOR OF OUR HOLIEST SHRINE -WHITE HOUSE. EVERY DAY OF HIS PRESIDENCY COST AMERICA MORE THEN WHOLE ‘”9-11″
    OSAMA’S “SON” IS DOING GREAT JOB FOR HIS ADAPTED FATHER!!!
    IMPEACH HIM!!!!

  • BarleyWheets

    The All mighty American dollar is supposed to be based on the amount of GOLD we have in our Gold Reserves! What happened to that base? How can the Fed Reserve or anyone else break that rule? That was a legislation made many years ago.

    • BobbyB

      Nixon did away with it

    • 45caliber

      That ended when the government decided to allow citizens to own gold again. So did the gold reserves. I’m certain that all that gold at Ft. Knox made someone rich but it wasn’t me. And I’m also certain that none is there now. Besides, it didn’t cover our money for decades. There wasn’t enough gold for the money used. Money today is supposed to be covered by our economy. Yeah, right.

      • Vicki

        45caliber writes:
        “That ended when the government decided to allow citizens to own gold again. ”

        I presume you mean that they both happened at the same time. Co-relation not causation

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      They snuck all the gold out of Fort Knox and moved it to the basement of the Federal Reserve building in New York years ago. And what these foreigners that have control of it have done with it, nobody really knows. They may have moved it all already to their own swiss banks or wherever, but the sad thing is, only they know, and no one in authoritive positions such as senator and governor or president and vice president seems to be asking these questions, when they all as one unit representing these same United States of America, should all be banding together, asking such questions, and holding these guys all responsible then kicking their foreign butts out of our country and removing them from controlling anything.

  • DaveH

    One of the wisest things that I ever heard from any College Professor was mainly about child rearing, but in reality can be applied to people at any age.
    That is, if you want a child to NOT do something, you punish the child. But if you want the child to DO something, you reward the child. This is true because punishing a child to make them DO some positive action plants a negative seed in their minds about whatever the particular action is. They will do it will you are standing over them, but later in life they will associate that positive action with pain and avoid it.
    Why do I bring this up? Because that same principle applies to people and work. We can’t compel (force) people to want to work. But we can incentivize them. When people are left Free to profit from their positive actions and to pay for their own mistakes, they will naturally become the best people they can become.
    We can only achieve that condition by protecting people’s property rights, so their hard work and sacrifice are rewarded. The harder we work, the more goods and services are produced, and the better off we all are. Even the slackers benefit from the surpluses produced by Freedom.
    How does this relate to the Federal Reserve? Because by printing excess unbacked money, they are taking our property away by making our savings worth less (inflation).
    The best we can hope for is to get our Markets back to Free Markets where the consumer is king. Back to voluntary choices and unfettered productivity.
    The alternative? We waste more of our money hiring the people (Government) to protect us from our laziness in researching products before we buy, doing our own due diligence before we invest, etc. We spend $2 to save ourselves $1. Not a good investment.
    The only place in the markets where the Government has any legitimate business is in prosecuting Fraudulent operators. That is, those who blatantly misrepresent their products, or through some method of force stifle their competitors.
    Vote Libertarian.

    • Vicki

      Your professor was exactly correct. Humans are trainable by reward or punishment or both. Both is FAR more effective both initially and, as you said, over time.

      • Anthony

        It is said, that Genghis Kahn was once asked:

        Which would you prefer, to be feared or respected by your people?

        His response was said to be almost immediate –

        “I want my people to ‘fear’ me. What else…”

        • Anthony

          DaveH – my comment here, is in relation to how THE FED deals with our elected Officials.

          And, yes, humans when very young are blank slates that can be conditioned just like any other living being. The real problem for the last half Century has been for people to spoil the child and spare the rod. Children learning to (and getting away with) tell(ing) their Parents NO when advised to do something is where all the rangling is created. I was lucky. My daughters were basically good growing up – but, we lived in a small town away from the city nonsense.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      That same principle applies to all these people that live on government handouts. They have learned that if they sit there doing nothing and stick their hand out, that the government will reward them for bad behaviour and give them free money and food. And they continue to do this, simply because the government condones and rewards such behavior. If they were told, no, you go get a job, or make them pick up trash along the roads, or help pave roads or something to earn this money, many would change their approach to live and start being productive members of society, instead of being sponges sucking the life out of it.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Two books a must read.Read these two books in order and you will see what could happen in America.Book one has allready happend.

    Book 1 1984 George orwell

    Book 2 Brave New World Aldous Huxley

    • John Myers

      Dear Charles,

      I could not agree more with you on these two books. I was talking to friend of mine today whose thinking I respect greatly. Before I even read your comment he said I needed to buy these two books and read them again.

      They scared me when I read them in high school some 37 years ago. Given what is going on now I have a feeling I am going to be even more afraid after I read them again.

      Best,

      John

      • Denniso

        Those two books should never be read by kids who don’t have the maturity to understand them,as is true of most high school kids. They are not so simplistic as to put the blame soley on a tyrannical gov’t which has stolen all of our freedoms. The point is that gov’t AND corporate power can work together to enslave us. Corporations have been working to mold us all into consummers and little workers and they use their power/money to get gov’t to heilp sometimes. Anyone heard of the power of advertising? Billions spent in remaking the human mind into what works for the sellers and pushers…

        • Denniso

          Here’s an example of corporate power and control over our lives and using gov’t to further their aims.

          http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/19/whats-good-for-g-m-is-good-for-homeowners/?hp?hp

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Shame on those evil big business guys that pay us an honest days wage for an honest days work. Without them we would have nothing in this country, and Im tired of guys like you demonizing them. And Im tired of lazy people not working screwing things up. Please read the following and take them under consideration. Ecclesiastes 5:18. Proverbs 22:29. 2 Thessalonians 3:10-11. Proverbs 10:26. Proverbs 13:4 Proverbs 6:10-11, which for all to see, says laziness leads to poverty. Proverbs 18:9. This might give you some true insight into working for a living. Thank God we have business’s that provide us jobs to do this.

          • Denniso

            And I would suggest you read some Mother Goose and Grims Fairy Tales.

  • Anthony

    QUOTE:
    “That is how the Fed is supposed to operate. Created in 1913, the Federal Reserve System had two prime directives: “The dollar over the President; the economy over the Party.”

    And for nearly a century the Federal Reserve followed that code of conduct. It was through such actions that the Fed helped establish American economic dominance.”

    THE 2ND PARAGRAPH … is a load of crap … period.

    If it’s the truth, please explain 1929. And, every OTHER recession that was “scripted” to occur on regular intervals – BY THE FED and no one else.

    IF they were actually following those marching orders – this Country would NEVER experience “any recessions or depressions in economy standing, at any time in the last 100 years”.

    THE BOTTOM LINE HERE is the fact that once the Bill was signed into Law – that was it. The Revolution was OVER. And AMERICA LOST.

    John Myers – you need some schooling from G Edward Griffin – that much, is certain.

    • Anthony

      Real Books to read are:

      1. Creature from Jekyll Island
      2. The Naked Capitalist

      Then, read Hamilton’s Curse and How Capitalism Saved America

      • Anthony

        YOU might as well follow up these books – listed above – with the final nail in the coffin….

        The Communist Manifesto

        “And for nearly a century the Federal Reserve followed that code of conduct.

        Ha …. utter bull$hit….

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          One you need to read, The Holy Bible. Only it was written as a guide for believers, so until you change your life around, it will remain a total mystery to you.

  • Raggs

    Lets give this idiot more rope?
    I think we can all see it is always to the cost of the TRUE people.

  • chuckb

    anthony, i read the naked capitalist many years ago, in fact i read so many political books i was ready for the revolutuon. a good friend belonged to the birch society and furnished a lot of reading material.
    one book that really influenced me was written by pres. somaza of nicaragua ‘nicaragua betrayed” at that time it started to all fall in place and i could see what was happening in the country, jimmy carter did turn the country of nicaragua over to the communist and each succeeding demo presideent has become more progressive towards communism, i don’t know how to judge barry, i do believe he is a muslim regardless of how they cover it up and i do believe he is supportive of the communist cause, i believe he is nothing but a puppet for the secret powers behind him and he speaks and does as the teleprompter tells him, he seems to know little of what the bills he signs stand for, the people surrounding him are all dubious, i believe most are leaning towards marxism. the country may need a revolution or bankruptsy to divorse itself of the course we are on. maybe palin, she’s the only one that would have the guts to shut down the un and get rid of the fed reserve.

    • Raggs

      chuck… You stepped into the trap.
      You have to stop and think for yourself..

      Liberals always rely on an outside source for what they would have everyone call a “good cause”.. If you cannot see what that means than you need to search…

      I will say that obama prey’s on people that are too stupid to think for themselves… The sad thing of this is is that the people that think for themselves get’s smaller..

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Barry is a communist sympathizer. But so was another guy and they made a national holiday after him. Go figure.

  • Wim Vonk

    Mr Myers would be a lot more believable if he was not such an Obama hater. Obama has only been in two years and these institutions have been around for a long time. America’s decline started well before Obama. Does Mr. Myers think that if McCain had won the 2008 election the U S would be much different. These are mostly all global events beyond the scope of any President. The world is in the hands of large Coporations and it is they that tell Obama what to do.

    • Raggs

      Wim… This is not the cartoon channel.

    • Dan az

      Whim Vonk
      Start reading my post its called facts and see what you come up with later!

    • Dave M

      @Win Vonk,

      The buck stops with Obama now. He is the man in charge therefore he IS responsible for the Fed.

      I will concede that Obama has zero comprehension of economics. Ignorance and inexperience is no excuse. He campained on the slogan of “change” and “hope” ect. All he did was further imbed the government into the private sector through takeovers of various industries [GM, Chrysler] and backstoped Wallstreets mistakes with QE-1, QE-2 ect. ect.

      Where is the hope and change?

      • Denniso

        Wim Vonk…you make a good point and the crazies attack you for it. It’s true that the biggest ‘threat’ to our freedom and democracy itself is corporate power and influence over the elected gov’t. The rightwing is cozily in bed w/ corporate power so they have to ignore the real threat,and in order to distract their followers,they accuse our elected leaders of wanting to enslave us. They are doing the bidding of corporations in trying to demonize gov’t and render it powerless to monitor and regulate big biz for the good of the country. It’s kind of amazing to watch millions of people being duped so well and easily by the rightwing power mongers.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          No sir. The biggest threat to our freedom and way of life is the democratic party. Lets examine. They sold our jobs to Mexico-Clinton. They let the enemy blow us up time and time again and did nothing – Clinton. They installed the commies controlling Nicaragua -Carter. They gave enemy terrorists caught trying to kill us lawyers – Obama. They gave billions of dollars away to failed business ventures – Obama. They sold our technology to China – Clinton. They brought about the inception of lying to the people and lying to congress to get their way – Franklin Roosevelt. They created a money sucking agency to wean us off foreign oil and never did, and now is 250,000 people sucking money off the top – Carter and the Dept. of Energy. They embolden the enemy by apologizing to terrorist countries for our success – Obama. Yes, its is the democrats that are bad for America, no doubt about it.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Because someone writes the truth and exposes someone for who they are and what they are and what they say, makes him a hater? Wow. How does that work?

  • chuckb

    raggs
    i don’t understand, what trap did i step into? and i always try to think for myself. search for what?

    • Denniso

      Chuckb…please address this one simple point,that we’ve been through many times before. If Obama and his people are leaning toward Marxism/communism, then why did he bail out the biggest corporations in the country,rather than just handing out cash to we the small people? Why are his economic people and many others in his administration right out of corporate america and the financial industry? Your claims are hollow,and I think I see why….you disclosed that you read much from the John Birch society. They were/are nothing but kooks and sometime fascists. They are so obsessed w/ extreme rightwing causes and terrified of anything that looks or sounds like ‘socialism’,that they don’t define anyway,that they lose all credibility and rationality. You have done your mind a great diservice by reading pure crap…oh, they are usually racist,violent and bigotted as well.
      And I’m serious, you should read stuff that doesn’t have as obvious a bias as anything from the John Birch society.

      • chuckb

        denniso

        if you check out the people in the administration and barry’s staff there are a lot of them who are very controversial left wing activist,
        rahm emaual, david axelrod,both of these guys are offsprings from russian commiunist. check out the czars he appointed.

        first off communism in itself is not a bad thing. you might say christ was a communist, man himself is the problem not the word communist. when you start giving people something for nothing or something they have not earned, they become less inclined to earn their own way and will live off the labor of others. the dictators that control a communist society got there by promising people something for nothing. the democratic party has in the pretense of promising people something for nothing has encompassed a large segmnent of the population. this amounts to welfare, unionism, healthcare and education. so when you want to control a country that’s the route you take, everybody is acceptable for something free.
        now you are going to say, well we can’t let people and little children starve or do without healthcare, communism, after it gets a foothold does exactly that, half the population works the other half doesn’t produce so in time the leader turns into a dictator in order to control the starving mass. china found out over many years socialim doesn’t work and has turned to a form of capitalism, this so far is working for them. man must have an incentive and ambition or else he fails. we are breeding a nation of ignorance and complacency by our welfare system and allowing the immigration of mostly ignorant people with no skills to enter our country, these people are coming from nations that are doing nothing but breeding more starving people. so what is our country doing? we are turning our country into the same thing these people left. barry is nothing more than a puppet for the marxist controlling him. i would say people like soros, lewis are formost in the shadows and they are just a small part of the problem, the democratic party is really nothing to these people only a tool to control the vote.
        you evidently don’t like the birch society, well that’s your choice. years ago when i knew some of the birchers i found them to be very loyal americans and well educated. i read a lot of their books which were referenced and i found to be quite true. i also have read books written by liberals, i don’t read as much anymore, i do reference back to one book “the iron curtain over america” by john beaty. this gives a good referenced history of the period between ww1 thru the 2nd and leading up to the korean war. i don’t read political fiction and don’t believe in conspiracy theories.

        • denniso

          Chuckb….you didn’t answer my point… if Obama and his people are so Marxist and leftwing, then why have they seemed to help the bankers and financial industry out? Why not let them collapse if it would serve their march toward Marxism/socialism? I don’t care what their purported politics are, what matters is what they are actually doing. The rich continue to do very well,large corporations have seen record profits for the past 2 yrs,and the working people are still struggling. How is that Marxism?

          • chuckb

            denniso

            check out who these rich powerful bankers are. mostly jewish with communist leanings.- the russian communist jews migrated from the soviet union in the thirties and being astute, intelligent people they worked there way into control of the banking, media, unions and politics (democrat party) of this country, they are now in control of the white house. they pull barry’s strings and he is nothing more than a talking puppet.
            you will note that even the senate and congress has their share.

          • denniso

            So, are you trying to say,since you didn’t answer my question,that we have Marxist bankers and financiers playing w/ capitalism? So wouldn’t that really make them capitalists? If a liberal owns a big company and runs it like a capitalist,isn’t he a capitalist? Unless they have a very long plan designed to take over capitalism and make it over into Marxism,all the while they are being capitalists, why would you care what they think philosophically or politically? That would be quite the big conspiracy and you said you don’t believe in conspiracies.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Are you stupid? Why did he bail out the biggest corporations? To ensure the democrat party gets all those UAW Union votes for years to come. Are you kidding me? You couldnt put two and two together and figure that one out? He bought union votes with our money. That is exactly what it was about.

        • Denniso

          So you want to be considered bright after a comment like that? If all actions of a president are just political,then that would mean that Cheny/Bush invaded Iraq to get the votes of rightwingers. Would you agree w/ that?

  • robert cosenza

    its time to take back our country,ask your self are you better off today then you were 1 year ago.remember its we the people not washington the people,but we the people when in the coarse of human events,you know the rest or at least you should.to straigten out this country we need frank serpico for president and bob barr for vice president.for those of you who don,t know frank serpico,just goggle the knapp commission.if the politicians aren,t going to help us,who bye the way are working for the people,not the other way around.then we must,get it done ourselfs

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  • Dave M

    After following the rebuttals to the posts for a few years now I can see the problem with most people here is they cannot properly identify the enemy to a just society. The problem is not left wing vs right wing but Statism vs liberty. The left or the right will allow you to vote yourselves into slavery but neither will allow you to vote for liberty.

    The modern state considers itself the supreme being and the electorate just a tax base. Cartels and multi-national companies clued into this long ago and have become part of the ruling elite.

  • Donald

    The FED nearly always tries to help the administration in power regardless of party. Reason: Changes in administrtions results in instability. Instability is not good for the economy.

    Nothing new here

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    To Denniso,
    Chuckb is right.You have to have industry in a Marxist/
    Cmmunism country. The difference between them and us, the goverment
    ownes all of the industry, including the banks.All the money goes to the goverment.The goverment decides how much you get.You will get paid the same as every one else doing the job that your doing.It
    makes no difference who the best worker is. It`s up to the goverment when its up to your health who gits treated or not.The goverment pretty much runs your life.I hate to keep bring it up,I`m not sure people don`t understand,or turn a blind eye,or maybe just don`t
    care,or maybe just don`t know what Obama stands for or what he says.Obama said,I going to transform America and spread the wealth.People like your self just don`t get it.(Think Denniso Think) PS Also, he is going to spread a lot more of our wealth to poorer countries through globel warming laws that make us all even,because we are to blame that Obama says is warming the globe.He is by far the worst President we have ever had.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Hey Denniso
    Here is a question for you. What lawmaker has the most money and a very large company. and what party does he belong to?I`m
    not going to tell you, however, he is a Senator.I`m sure he is in with the goverment just like all the other big company`s. Actually,
    his wife an her parents own the company.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Sounds like some Heinze ketchup to me.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Does the guy look a lot like Herman Munster?

  • Rennie

    Everyone remain calm. China will step into the void and restore order once the USA falls into chaos.

  • chuckb

    denniso

    the chinese government is communist yet they turn to the philosophy of capitalism to save their country. barry is turning to communism to destroy ours. he is controlled by the same ideology that ruined the soviet union. his strings are pulled by the democratic party leaders.

    • Denniso

      So the Democatic leaders are also communist and are trying to destroy the country? And why would they and Obama want to destroy the country? You said you don’t believe in conspiracies,but that sounds like one. Obama and the Dems appear to be trying to rescue the country from the collapse of ’08,the greatest collapse in 80 yrs,and actually they are working to destroy the country. Something’s wrong w/ that theory Chuck,and it is a conspiracy theory. I think you read too much John Birch stuff. They of the all white,Christianity only party.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Because the United States is a Christian nation, regardless of what Obama has told the world. And Obama is a muslim, and all muslims, not just some, but all muslims view Christianity as the enemy and want them dead and exterminated. Now you can believe the rhetoric that it is a peaceful religion, but if you study it at all, and read that in thier mind we are infidels and must die, its pretty darn clear.

        • Denniso

          So, let’s say that 75% of Americans are Dallas Cowboy fans, and the rest are fans of all the other teams…would that make America a Cowboys nation?

  • chuckb

    denniso

    i don’t know if the john birch society even exists today, however, i did find them far more patriotic than the the democratic party since the sixties. you can’t possibly deny that barry recruited a lot of people who are of the marxist tilt and known communist affiliation as czars in his administration, you cannot deny bill ayers his mentor is not of that breed. these people have an agenda that i do not agree with.
    mccarthy uncovered the communist threat to this country and john and bobby kennedy were sitting at his side during those hearings, he had the blessing of the catholic church. the communist in the media drove this man to his death with their slander. in the nineties mccarthy was proven right even by the media, they did not make a big deal out of it and the story was on the back pages of the newspaper.
    you can ridicule this all you want,but prove it;s not true.

    you claim this administration is trying to pull us out of this
    financial trouble we are in? how by passing such legislation as the healthcare bill, their stimulus package, no, i think they are deliberately trying to destroy this economy in order to establish a socialist/communist type government. like i said before barry soetoro when senator voted for the tarp bill and every piece of bad legislation until becoming pres. now he signs it into law.

    this guy is an idiot, he’s nothing but a front man for powers behind the scene, do you know anything about this guy for sure, nobody else does either. and you talk about the white christian party, the john birch society. at least they had this countries interest in their heart.they didn’t travel throughout the world putting this country down and kissing some muslims ass.

    • Denniso

      It’s been 2 yrs now that Obama has been working to save our capitalist system from itself…a system that always winds up devouring itself w/ greed and corruption in the financial and corporate sector. You think Obama is trying to destroy,yet he has helped the stock market recover most of it’s disastrous losses from the crash(a low of 6700, now pushing 12,000), and helped job recovery so that we have had job growth every month for a year now…just not fast enough to accommodate new workers coming into the market every month.
      It seems a funny way to try to destroy an economy,increasing the number of jobs and growing the stock market. Obama has pushed for a few liberal policies,but not much. The healthcare bill is almost exactly what the Republicans proposed in opposition to the Clinton plan back in ’94 or so. It caters to the corporate medical/insurance industry and is not even close to what liberals wanted…universal single payer funded by taxes,like Medicare is.

      If you see McCarthy as an American hero then we are light years apart. He destroyed hundreds of lives by conducting a witch hunt based on lies,fear,innuendo and demagoguery. If you believe in freedom,then why can’t someone believe in any political philosophy they want? We allow Fascists,capitalists,socialists,communists,greens
      and more to hold their beliefs. The only line we draw on beliefs is if they actively advocate overthrowing the gov’t. Many rightwingers right here could be held on that charge today,couldn’t they?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        That is an out and out lie denniso. We have not had job growth for every month for a year. According to the New York Times, a liberal rag mind you, in 2010, Jan.9.7, Feb. 9.7, March 9.7. Even for 3 months. Then 9.8 in April, a rise you see. 9.6 in May, 9.5 in June, a drop. 9.5 in July, then up again in August to 9.6. Sept.9.6, Up again in October to 9.7. Up again in November to 9.8. Up again in December to 9.9. So where are you getting that we had job growth? If unemployment is going up, your losing jobs. If your going to lie, at least tell one that cant be blown out of the water so easily.

        • Denniso

          And you should be careful who you call a liar before you know what you’re talking about. Job growth means adding jobs to the economy,which we have been doing for at least a year or more…the unemployment numbers have stayed near 9 1/2 % because w/ the continual population growth in the country,which means more new workers looking for jobs every month,we haven’t added enough new jobs to move the unemployment number down. If we have 100,000 new workers coming into the job market every month,but only create 100,000 new jobs ea month, the per cent of the unemployed stays the same. We need to create more new jobs ea month than the number of new workers joining the workforce ea month in order for the unemployment number to come down.
          The last quarter I believe the number came down to 9.5 %….you should learn before you pounce.

  • David

    All of this commentary is spiked with partisan mumbo jumbo. The fact is the two parties are linked in a gigantic corruption scheme, and whoever winds up in the White House is forced to play out the script. Thus, no change. If we don’t implode before November 2012, we’ll wind up re-electing Nobama or that idiot Sarah Palin. Meanwhile, America is drugged into complacency by airhead consumerism and the media. Late 1800s Vienna anyone ?

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I will take that idiot Sarah Palin anyday. And I would love to sit her down side by side with you and give you both an IQ test, and show you just who the idiot is sir. We all know, that would be you.

  • chuckb

    denniso

    first off how do you save a capitalistic system by applying socialist rules. this man has done nothing to save this system, our un-employment remains status quo. his bills are nothing but tax burdens on this society and future generations. he is not creating new jobs, government employment is not creating jobs, they are another burden on the tax payers. he at this very moment is creating another catastrophe by cutting off our oil supplies and causing the price of gas to sky rocket. we are headed for a deeper recession becuse of this. the only reason i can see why he would do this is to promote his battery operated cars and make people dependent on solar and wind power, none of these have proven to be reliable or cost efficient, batteries will probably never work to expectations along with solar. his interest is political (gm-chrysler unions). i don’t judge a man by his political affiliation and that goes for the presidency, i judge what he does and says. so far he has shown most of all he dislikes this country, he sympathizes with the islam religion, i believe he is a muslim and most of all i think he is a fraudulent president and a liar.i hold the democratic party responsible.

    as far as mccarthy is concerned i watched the mccarthy hearings from beginning to end, that is what they showed on tv and i beg to differ with you about destroying peoples life. the communist party isn’t some country club organization. you will have to go back to the russian revolution and see what their interest is and how they operate. i watched these so called movie producers, politicians and other people called to the witness stand and take the fifth amendment
    to cover for their communist activities, then scream witch hunt. do you like john f kennedy? or bobby kennedy? most democrats do and i liked john kennedy as an american patriot not as a democrat, however, i must say he was the best of any of the coming democratic presidents. both he and bobby stood by mccarthy in these hearings and were part of the investigations, do you ever hear anyone referring to kennedyism?? what mccarthy (who served in the u.s.air force in ww2 and decorated)warned this nation of this communist movement starting back in the fdr admin. they have made great progress over the years with the help of the tainted news media and hollywood and our education system. so everytime i hear someone use the term mccartyism i see someone who was propagandized by the media and education.
    if you can give up your liberty to live under a sociopolitical government and police state, then vote for the present administration that’s where they are headed. and if you still want to defend communism check out any communist country and see if you would like to live under a totalitarian government. i sure don’t.

    one more thing about the john birch society, i wasn’t a member, i did have friends who were. i disagreed with them on a lot of their beliefs and convictions, i did respect them for being great americans.

    • Denniso

      We’ve come through the biggest economic collapse since the great depression. The stock market lost trillions of $$ and bottomed out at 6700…millions of people temporarily lost 1/2 of their pension funds and stock investments. If you don’t think that stabilizing the banks and financial industry, and getting the stock market back up to near it’s previous high, is saving the capitalistic system as well as all of our finances, then you are hopelessly partisan and immune to any argument. See my reply to Beberoni above about our unemployment numbers.

  • chuckb

    denniso

    we haven’t come through this recession, what makes you think we are?
    the un-employment figures the admin. is putting out are not true, they don’t indicate the number of people who have run out of un-employment benefits or people who have quit looking for work.
    lets get off the my side is winning game and look at this situation in reality. i don’t know if you are infatuated with barry because he is black or half white, the man is doing nothing for this country, he hasn’t the experience and it shows, he is too liberal and in my personal opinion a true socialist/marxist, wants to spread the wealth and run this country like some of the african countries, how many of those are successful? “o” i think hillary would have been a far better choice for president as far as the liberals go. the banks didn’t need to be stabilized they should have let them go bankrupt like any business, the same with general motors. we would have been far better off today had they done this and not passed these stimulus bills or healthcare.he has increased the debt 17% this last year, you call this successful.
    i predict he will step down from the presidency in 2012 and hillary will take the nomination.

    • Denniso

      I’m not ‘infatuated’ w/ obama…and the administration is using the same measurements of unemployment that are always used,so there is nothing suspicious about it.

      If you don’t call getting the stock market back to near where it was before the crash progress,then what do you call it? Going backward? You’re looking at and dwelling on the negative and missing some of the positives, because you are blinded by anger/hate/distaste toward Obama and liberals. One should try to stay objective when looking at the economy and not let emotions lead.

  • Joe Bieliunas

    Chairman Ben Bernanke: Under the George W. Bush administration, Ben Bernanke was sworn in as the Chairman and one of the board governors of the Fed or the US Federal Reserve System. He also served as the Head of the Federal Open Market Committee, the Fed’s main monetary policy-making body. His tenure on the Board of Governors will last until January 31, 2020 and his Chairmanship of the Fed will last up to January 31, 2010. He WAS working for George W Bush, you pompous idiots, so who is to blame? George W Bush that’s who and now the Bob Livingston’s of this world are blaming this bailout and recession and joblessness on the Obama admistration. Just like the WMD’s, remember them, weapons of mass destruction that never existed, this too is the Bush administration’s fault. Obama is cleaning up after the 8 year of GOP rule.

    • chuckb

      joe bieliunas

      maybe you should check out the system we have in this country, the president can’t spend one dime without congressional approval. the fed res. chairman can’t spend one dime without the approval of congress. the democrats have controlled both houses since 2007, that means they have spent this country into oblivion, henry waxman no doubt one of your hero’s has chaired the oversight committee since 2007, bush made a mistake in trying to appease the democrats, however, you have to look no further than congress to set the blame. your other hero barry soetore was a sitting senator and voted yes on every disastrous bill congress produced then when president continued to take this nation further in debt. go back and check the records you obviously don’t know what you are talking about.

      • truesoy

        Not so fast, there are ways around. Remember when Bush sold to Congress and the american people that Saddam had WMD, and that there was an imminent danger to the area if we did not act?, and we did. Remember what happened to the budget then? why? because once they sell you on a program the president gets an endless supply of funds. In the case of Iraq the tactic for congressional approval was ‘support for our troops’ ’cause to do otherwise would be almost ‘treason’. So he got his money, always; to the point that he was able to set up a separate funding(discretionary funds)that was not even included in the budge for which congressional approval was no necessary for it to be spent.
        Could Congress have stopped it?. Most likely not. They would have been branded ‘unpatriotic’ by the same people that now clamors for fiscal restraint, and for a reduction of the deficit,and that blames Obama for everything they failed to do anything about during the previous administration, where it all started.

        • Denniso

          Hypocrisy works well for the Repubs because their people don’t care about it and they can they launch any and all political attacks regardless of the truth. It’s pathetic that it works for most of the Repub sheep,because all they care about is damaging Obama any way they can.

  • http://charter.net susanburnette

    just get rid of the federal reserve or mack them show just where all the money goes. no one is above the law no matter who they are.

  • The General

    Nobody has mentioned the Interchange Fee Cap and the fed’s mandate to fix the price that debit card transactions can be run at. This appears to me to be an attempt by the government and the fed to set a precedence that would allow them to determine if any business is charging too much (or profiting too much), then regulate their pricing. Banks have already begun raising fees on checking accounts to cover the lost revenue. Could this be part of the plan to give the banks a reason to incrementally take money out of the hands of it’s account holders, or is it an attempt by the gevernment to put the banks outof business so they can take them over? Coincidentally, I also see that now the Post Office and the IRS are going to start issuing debit cards. I think this is very suspicious.

    • Denniso

      You’re watching or listening to too much fantasy, and become paranoid.

  • fred

    If obama is an american like you think. How is it he had a foreign student loan to go to college?

    • Denniso

      That’s just another myth pushed by the Obama haters…give it up. Why do you think the Repub leadership is not making an issue of these dumb myths,if there is anything to them?

  • truesoy

    Bob Livingston wrote about Obama:…..unprecedented spending of a president and congress…
    Somebody, anybody for that matter, should inform Mr. Livingston that President Obama did not get to sign a budged of his own until Oct. 2009, almost one year after becoming president. All that time, up and until Oct. 2009, he was working with the budget handed to him by the Bush administration, and it was already ‘bloated’ (banks/Wall Street bailout, auto industry bailout, etc.)
    We can also discuss the state of the economy and so on but, that’s another issue for another day.

  • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

    Dear truesoy,

    Actually, John Myers wrote that. But if you are insinuating that anyone contributing for this site have not adequately pilloried Mr. Bush and the Republicans for their spending practices, you haven’t been paying attention.

    Best wishes,
    Bob

    • Denniso

      I have been here for over a yr, and I’ve seen little of the kind of pillorying of Cheny/Bush or Repubs in general that comes close to that dished out to Obama and the Dems. If any Repubs are scolded at all it’s because they are percieved as in bed w/ the Dems, the true ‘evil doers’. No, I haven’t read every article,but I’ve read at least 1/2, and that’s my take. I am not in love w/ the Dems or Obama,I just see them as much better than the Repubs,who are being radicalized more and more. No where have I seen an article decrying the destruction wrought on the country by Repubs,as happens often w/ the Dems. The bias is very clear,which is OK since it’s the site of an ‘ultra conservative’…it’s to be expected.

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Denniso,

        Mr. Bush left office in January 2009. That was two years ago. Mr. Bush is no longer relevant to the discussion–although liberals can’t seem to let him go. Mr. Bush’s policies regarding domestic spending, the “war on terror” and stealing our freedoms were horrendous for our country and, to lovers of liberty, he was an atrocious president. But the economy now belongs to the Congressional Democrats (who had the majority for four years) and Mr. Obama, who conspired with Mr. Bush on TARP and the bailouts beginning in November 2008.

        Perhaps that is why you haven’t seen as many articles pillorying Mr. Bush during the last year you have been here.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

        P.S. To see my take on Mr. Bush’s eight years in office, go to http://www.boblivingstonletter.com (subscription required). Archives from my newsletter back to 2002. Or you can purchase my book, 40 years of Bob Livingston and sign up for my newsletter, if you’d like.

        • Denniso

          Bob Livingston….but Cheny/Bush are still relevant, since most of the problems we have now either began under them or weren’t addressed under them. Obama is cleaning up the atrocious messes left behind and from the very beginning of his term the rightwing has only attacked rather than try to help or stay out of the way. The two wars begun by Bush that have bled the country in our sons and daughters and in money, should have been attended to w/ enough resources and intelligence such that they could have been ended one way or another before Obama even came in. Afghanistan…10 yrs, Iraq…8 yrs, and counting.

          The stalemate w/ Iran and North Korea over nuclear weapons…absolutely nothing accomplished by Cheny/Bush for their 8 yrs in office.

          The largest economic collapse since the Great Depression began under Bush,whether he deserves all the ‘credit’ or not.

          Soaring healthcare costs and medical bankruptcies during the 8yrs of Bush,w/ NO action or even thought on the crisis developing.

          All of these were either ignored by Bush or caused,at least partially, by him and his atrocious administration over 8 yrs. As soon as Obama was elected and even before he was sworn in, he was vilified and attacked by the right, and it wasn’t long after that you and your writers joined in. There was absolutely no sense of fairness or concern about working together for the good of the country.
          The many extremists on your site quickly followed suit and echoed the savaging of Obama and Dems in general. That didn’t happen in a vacuum.

          Thanks for your comment…

  • truesoy

    Noted. But you ‘pilloried’ Obama in most instances for the wrong reasons, like healthcare reform that will save us, taxpayers, money while making it possible for other americans, just like you and I, to get adequate coverage without fear of cancellation in times of need. You, conservative republicans ‘pilloried’ Obama for an stimulus plan that was necessary to rescue as much as possible of an economy that was in shambles, and had he not done so you all be saying ‘he sits and do nothing, and that he is incompetent; either way he loses. Now, it does not go without saying that I agree 100%, because I don’t, but so far he’s done pretty good, although I know that conservative republicans would not admit to it because is not in their agenda ( I refer to the shakers and movers that mobilize the rank and file (you)into action). If Obama was to walk on water they will get to parade downtown carrying a sign that says: “he is so stupid, he can’t swim”, and no one could convince you otherwise.

    Best wishes,

    Truesoy

    • Denniso

      Jobs have been added to the economy for a year after the crash,though not enough to bring the unemployment number down, because of the growth of the population every month.

      The stock market is almost at 12,000, nearly recovering all the previous losses in investments and pension funds.Tou can notice that the Repubs are not paying any attention to that progress.

      If the economy recovers this year close to fully w/ unemployment dropping to say 8%, the Repubs will go after Obam on social issues,or
      his citizenship or religion. Their plan was laid out even before he was sworn in…attack,attack,attack, even if the attacks make no sense,even if he fixes the mess left behind by Bush/Cheny.

      I would guess that another thing the Repubs will attack is his war policy if the economy improves sufficiently. They will never pull together for the good of the country,we surely know that by now.

  • dave

    All you people still don’t get it. You have all your eyes on the money.You should be watching the shells to find the all important “pea”. While the shell game is going on its the people in the back ground,Pelosie , Reid , Joe (bonehead Biden),They are the ones getting the dmage done!You all focus on the small shit,while the turds just slip righr on by. Ever hear the pharse,” cut off the head and the body dies”. Quit f—ing with the tail,the head does the damage!I really find it hard to believe that we have so many blind,dum assed idiots in this country,bitching at each other for what you all should have been paying attention to for the past 50 odd years.And they had it figured right,for letting them go unattended for so long,and now see who you are blaming,each other!while you are arguing amongst youselves,they are coniving against all of us.And Its workink ,just as they planned!

  • bill thomas



    “West gov’s borrow to opay interest, cant pay off loans.”
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