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A Tenther’s Guide To The Election

October 30, 2012 by  

A Tenther’s Guide To The Election
PHOTOS.COM

ten·ther ˈten-thər  noun

1. A person who supports the Constitution: every issue, every time, no exceptions and no excuses.

2. Those who actively use the principles of decentralization to advance the cause of liberty.

see alsoTenther Movement

Ron Paul is out. Gary Johnson and Jill Stein are not going to win. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney represent the classic “lesser of two evils” situation. Rocky Anderson and Virgil Goode are barely a blip on the radar.

Look, I’ve heard all the arguments in this Presidential election. A vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for Obama. A win for Romney means the right will go back to sleep like they were under George W. Bush. The lesser of two evils is still evil. And more.

Like every other Presidential election, people everywhere are shouting from the rooftops: “This is the most important vote of your lifetime!” But all these arguments are missing the point entirely.

The 2012 Presidential election is not a make-or-break election. America, as the Founders envisioned, has already been broken for a long, long time.

Broken

That’s no understatement, either. Pick a clause of the Constitution, and it has likely been violated to the point of nonexistence. Read through the Bill of Rights and you’ll see how few of those essential liberties are truly in place today.

We live under a Federal dictatorship of sorts. Sure, you get to choose your oppressors every few years, but those people still claim the power to do plenty. They tell you what kind of light bulbs you can own and how big your toilet can be. They will arrest you for growing a plant in your backyard and fine you for not purchasing an insurance product. They relentlessly spy on you, monitor phone calls and read emails.

They drop bombs wherever they want around the world; Constitutional requirements for Congressional declarations of war are now considered an anachronism. If they don’t like your opposition to what they do, they’ll use a drone to watch your every move, then kidnap you and keep you in a secret military prison. They call that one “indefinite detention.”

We now have free-speech zones; business and environmental regulations that should be the purview of the States or the people; corporate bailouts; and endless excuses for the lies, rules and failures. It’s never-ending. And, all the while, officials keep debasing the currency in the hopes that their house of cards continues to stand.

Ole King George would have salivated at this kind of power. But, today, some people seem to think that simply casting a vote every few years is all they need to do to advance the cause of the Constitution and your liberty.

They’re wrong.

Top Five

So what’s a good Tenther to do on Nov. 6?

Like my friend Steve Palmer wrote in a recent article, the No. 1 most important thing is not what happens on Nov. 6. What really matters is:

… what we do on 364 other days of the year. If we go back to sleep because we’re happy that the winner is wearing a red jersey or a blue one, we’re doomed to be exploited. If we stay vigilant and ensure that the use of force by government is limited to its Constitutionally legitimate role, then society will bring the blessings of prosperity to all of us.”

I’m not trying to talk you out of voting for one of the Presidential candidates — or even into voting for a different one. More than 90 percent of potential voters are already dead set on who they’re going to vote for — or against, most likely.

My goal here is to encourage you to do more. Since you’re already set on who you’ll be voting against, spending time reading, watching or complaining about any of the candidates is nothing more than a daily soap opera. You can certainly spend your time far more wisely — and help us all in support of the Constitution.

Here’s my list of the top-five things a good Tenther can do this election season.

5. Vote For Good State And Local Candidates

It seems like everyone forgets about the little guys. But these are the people who can change the world. Like the Constitutional structure that the Founders gave us, a revolution in thought and action isn’t a top-down proposal. It’s bottom up.

So check out your State and local campaigns and vote for people that support the Constitution and your liberty. There are some great ones out there, surprisingly enough. Here are a few examples:

Aaron Libby is running for re-election in the Maine State house. He’ll be introducing one of the strongest Obamacare nullification bills in the country.

John Logan Jones is also in Maine — and a strong challenger, too. He was well-positioned to run for Congress, but recognized the absolute need for State governments to take “an activist role in reasserting powers” stolen by the Feds.

My friend Anthony Rice is running for city council in Rancho Cucamonga, Calif. And Mark Hopp is running for county commissioner in Alamance County, N.C. These are the kind of guys who will have absolutely no qualms pushing legislation to nullify the National Defense Authorization Act (like 16 communities around the country have already done) and just about anything else on a local level.

David Simpson is running for re-election to the Texas State house. He’s been leading the charge to nullify unConstitutional searches and seizures by the Transportation Security Administration.

Bernie DeCastro is running for sheriff in Marion County, Fla. And Ray Seidel is running for sheriff in Lincoln County, N.M. Both of these guys have been endorsed by Sheriff Richard Mack; and, if they win, they could establish some of the freest counties in the country.

Matt Shea is running for re-election to the Washington State house. He’s a relentless supporter of the Constitution and has worked on legislation to nullify NDAA and Obamacare and worked in support of sound money and more.

4.  Educate

Read. Learn. Share. As more people learn about Constitutional principles, the more good people will take action locally, where real change can be affected.

“Nullification: The Rightful Remedy” is a power-packed DVD that can introduce people to these issues in less than 90 minutes.

Our Last Hope: Rediscovering the Lost Path to Liberty is the essential guide to the Tenther movement. It’s the owner’s manual.

Liberty Classroom’s State Nullification: What is it? is a fantastic, free resource.

3.  Lobby Your State And Local Representatives

Hammer away at your local politicians. They usually get ignored; so when they start getting just a few calls to support a particular issue, they’ll start paying attention. Call the ones you know are your opposition, too. Sometimes, politicians are so slimy that they have absolutely zero principles. (OK, sometimes is too modest.) Those people will change with the wind. If you press them, you can make things happen.

The Tenth Amendment Center has model legislation ready for introduction in your area regarding the NDAA, Obamacare, drones, Constitutional tender, the TSA and more.

2.  Vote To Nullify 

There are ballot initiatives in play around the country. You can vote to ban Federal or State insurance mandates in Montana. You can drive a truck through the unConstitutional drug war in Colorado, Oregon and Washington State. You can stand up for healthcare freedom in Florida, Alabama and more.

Check those referendums and vote “yes” on anything that defies Washington, D.C. Every crack in the armor will make us stronger.

1.  Organize

The most important thing you can do right now is organize. This really encompasses all the previous four, and will make every future effort even stronger. Educate people in your community. Build strong support networks for local candidates and referendum campaigns. Get teams of people together to lobby those already in office. And build strong campaigns and coalitions to nullify unConstitutional Federal acts.

You can use the Tenth Amendment Center’s Nullify Obamacare Organizer’s toolkit (pdf) to help you along. It’s a free, 17-page document filled with ideas and methods that work. And, no, you don’t have to focus only on the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act; you can use these time-tested strategies on whatever issue is most important to you. You might even want to head up your own nullification campaign.

Truth

Bottom line? The time to act is now. Not next year or next fall. Not next month or next week. Today, not tomorrow. Right now.

If all you’re doing is voting, you’re not doing enough. Please start doing more. There. I said it.

While I know that statement will likely irritate some people, I firmly believe it to be the truth. And on truth, Thomas Jefferson couldn’t have been more right:

“It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.”

–Michael Boldin

 

Dr. Michael Cutler

is a graduate of Brigham Young University, Tulane Medical School and Natividad Medical Center Family Practice Residency in Salinas, Calif. Dr. Cutler is a board-certified family physician with more than 19 years experience. He serves as a medical liaison to alternative and traditional practicing physicians. His practice focuses on an integrative solution to health problems. Dr. Cutler is a sought-after speaker and lecturer on experiencing optimum health through natural medicines and founder and editor of Easy Health Options™ newsletter — a leading health advisory service on natural healing therapies and nutrients.

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  • Dennis48e

    “It seems like everyone forgets about the little guys. But these are the people who can change the world. Like the Constitutional structure that the Founders gave us, a revolution in thought and action isn’t a top-down proposal. It’s bottom up.”

    DaveH take note. That thought has been pointed out to you several times but yet you still insist on working from the top down.

    • danny

      A word for Michael Boldin, He sounds like another Ron Paul supporter that is such a sore loser. He wants to water down the Exstreem importance for Mitt Romney To win The Whitehouse. And he is also missing the point of this Election is to win both the Senate and Congress. This Nation is made up of “WE THE PEOPLE” and we the people don’t need some “loser”, like the one who wrote this article telling us it is too late. Get out there and Vote Conservative Republican, and Demand you Representatives vote as they were voted in to do. And God Bless America.

      • rb

        “…a revolution in thought and action isn’t a top-down proposal. It’s bottom up.” Guess you forgot to read that part.

        • Steve Van Osdell

          You either ‘get it’ or you don’t. All I can do is toss the seeds. I have no control over whether they land on fertile soil or hard rock! And just where, exactly, has following your strategy gotten us? Talk about the definition of insanity? i.e. doing the same thing over and over again (every 4 years) and voting for one of the racehorses owned by the ‘mafia’ (aka New World Order Bankers) and expecting a different and glorious outcome. I say NO THANKS to that. Besides, there isn’t an ounce of difference between Romney and Obama anyway – only a little in their rhetoric! As I told my mother – anyone who votes their true beliefs and conscience, even if for a 3rd party which won’t win (this time!), is NOT throwing their vote away. But, people who run out under the control and influence of the 2 mainstream parties and vote for what they perceive as the ‘good cop’ in a ‘good cop/bad cop’ set up staged scenario… THOSE are the people who are truly throwing their vote away! Maybe if Obama were to be re-elected, more people would WAKE THE HECK UP, whereas with Romeny, everyone goes back to sleep and tune back in to favorite sports and reality TV shows.

      • Warrior

        I’ll break it down to simpler terms. Don’t vote for a single demonrat and everyone else is fair game.

      • Steve Van Osdell

        Danny, do you really keep up with geopolitics or just crawl out from in front of the boob tube only every 4 years? I realize that I agree with you more than a Democrat, but as a former Republican (now a Libertarian), I have to wonder how much you really know. I think you need a good dose of Alex Jones at infowars.com. About a month of learning from Alex should flush out all that ales you, and get you some real knowledge in the process. I would also suggest that you re-familiarize yourself with the definition of insanity – because dumbed down Americans display this every 4 years when they go out and vote and are convinced that either a Democrat or Republican (depending on your persuasion) is doing to miraculously save the country and turn it around. I got news for you – with EITHER of them – AIN’T GONNA HAPPEN. If the mafia owns all the horses at the race, don’t you think they laugh at you behind your back when you and a friend go to the races and try to decide which horse to bet on? They don’t care which one you bet on because they own all of them!!! Wake up man, and stop being a mouthpiece for one of the corrupt to the core main parties!

      • JC

        danny, I am confounded as to how you managed to put “Conservative” and “Republican” into the same sentence. The Republican party is about 2 degrees right of the Democrats. They’re all about massive government incursions into our lives, same as the left.
        They’re all about massive “security” measures that don’t do a thing for security, but do take away even more of our rights. I already voted for Romney as being the lesser of two disgusting weasels that don’t give a damn about America or Americans…but I have to wonder….what if the Kenyan low life won again….would it help bring about the massive anti-government movement this country so desperately needs?

      • http://www.facebook.com/doris.carman Doris Carman

        You can demand the two houses vote your way all you want, but they dont do it. They were going to impeach obama? not. they were going to get rid of Geitner and Holder? not.They are in it for the pensions.

      • DaveH

        Michael is right, danny. I’ve witnessed the same events election after election for 40 years now. And no matter how many times the result has been Bigger Government (every time), still the blindered sheeple keep trying the Lesser of Two Evils paradigm.

      • http://www.facebook.com/michaelboldin Michael Boldin

        You certainly don’t have to listen to my advice. For many, the Constitution is quite extreme. But I’ll take Jefferson and Madison over those who hate their work any day.

        • Jeff

          The haters being those behind the Civil War Amendments (13. 14, 15)?

      • Vigilant

        So, Jeff, you’re saying you want to bring slavery back?

        • Jeff

          Are you talkin’ to me?

      • JC

        Vigilant says:

        October 30, 2012 at 12:38 pm

        So, Jeff, you’re saying you want to bring slavery back?
        ______________________________________________________________________

        You can’t possibly expect to be taken seriously on any level with a question like that Vigilant.

      • John

        What good does it do to vote for another anti-constitutionalist because he is a Republican? Actions speak louder than words. Mitt Romney was for gun control before he was against it. He created Obamacare in taxachussets. It isn’t sour grapes, it is just that some of us are principled and have a backbone.

      • Ann Wilson Kingsley

        @danny: No one is a sore loser. This isn’t a soccer match or a football game where the stakes are low and Rah! Rah! works to help the outcome. Both mainstream candidates are Socialist, and both report to the same New World Order Globalist sponsors who paid for their advertising. I love Boldin’s article, but there is one thing with which I disagree: It is not the Federal Government control that we have as a problem so much as it is Federal Government control by corporations. Corporations are the new feudal system. The same monarchies and aristocrats are in control of the corporations that controlled the feudal system, and now they are allied with wealthy industrialists. The Middle Class is headed for slavery as serfs, dependent on large corporations for a meager living. The Tea Party needs to get ALEC banned, the Republican organization where lawmakers, lobbyists, and corporations meet to craft our laws. The Tea Party also needs to step on any proposed law that allows corporations to have an advantage over the Middle Class. The problem in our country isn’t poverty, but upholding and maintaining the Middle Class, so poverty does not develop. The monarchies and aristocrats do not like the Middle Class because they are a pesky nuisance. What we are finding is that the Middle Class is very easily manipulated. The Middle Class is always very busy,, and they do not take the time to research issues. Too many of them are just looking for a hero to pin their hopes on. The Middle Class must start looking under the hood to examine everything they hear because they are being duped over and over again by both Republicans and Democrats. If a voter starts from the premise that everything he hears is a lie, which means every issue needs investigation then we will have an educated Middle Class.

      • BR549

        No, Danny, Boldin isn’t a sore loser. He’s a realist. Right now, we don’t have any MAJOR candidates who aren’t in the globalists’ back pockets. For over 100 years, this country has been plagued with a disease brought on by parasites like the Rockefellers and their socially dysfunctional banking maggots (or is that magnates?). They’ve managed to convince everyone that life is all about money and not about our social relationships. They would have us believe that our prime connection should be with our bank as opposed to our friends, families, and neighbors, and rather than everyone join in for an Amish style barn-raising, these people would have us believe that owing money to a bank does more for our independence than appreciating our neighbors for helping raise the barn. They’ve twisted our value system upside down with THEM, coincidentally, always being at the deep end of the feeding trough.

        Boldin may be correct about Stein and Johnson, sadly. In the 2008 election, I contacted all of the realistic third party offices and suggested that the only way any one of them was going to win was if they ALL threw their supporters in support of ONE single candidate. As much as pride and egos can’t let some things go, if these people can’t do this for Team US, we ALL lose. Nader, Paul, Barr, McKinney (she’s sharp, BTW), Baldwin, Gravel, and at the time Kucinich; all of these people SHOULD have been willing to bow down and put their country first. Instead, they bowed out and left the voters out in the cold.

        In this election, I’m not hearing anything different. I’m not hearing that all the candidates were willing to support Jill Stein, Johnson, Anderson or whomever. Out of all the other candidates, I may lean toward Johnson, but what good is it if we, as third party supporters, are all still willing to follow our leader to voter oblivion because we picked yet another loser. Instead, these potential “leaders” SHOULD be helping to decide which among them should be the standard bearer for us all so that we can all put our eggs in the same basket and not risk losing our brethren on the wings of the undecided to voting for the lesser of two evils ……. again.

      • http://todaysconstitution.wordpress.com usirius

        Actually danny, Romney is Obama and will continue his illegal policies. I can list 47 of them here AGAIN if you need them; here is just a few from the list:
        Neither candidate supports immediately balancing the federal budget or paying it down.
        They both believe in big government.
        They both have a track record of being big spenders while in office.
        Romney supported/supports Obama’s “economic stimulus” packages.
        Both support TARP.
        Neither candidate wants to eliminate the income tax or the IRS.
        They both want to keep personal income tax rates at the exact same levels for the vast majority of Americans.
        Both are “open” to the idea of imposing a Value Added Tax on the American people.
        Both believe that the TSA is doing a great job.
        Both support the NDAA – indefinite detention with no crime committed, pre crime arrests, etc.
        Both of them supported the renewal of the USA PATRIOT Act.
        Both candidates believe that the federal government should be able to indefinitely detain American citizens.
        Both candidates believe that American citizens that they SUSPECT MIGHT being terrorists can be killed by the president without a trial.
        Obama has not closed Guantanamo Bay like he promised to do, and Romney actually wants to double the number of prisoners held there.
        Both candidates support the practice of “extraordinary rendition”.
        They both ship jobs out of the country.
        They outsource jobs here inside the USA to foreign nations – repairing our roads, bridges, building cars, etc becasue no o ne in America can do those things.

        Okay, more then a few. But definately NOT the complete list.
        Another important one is they both support Agenda 21 which takes away any property or business, or cars, etc away from us. We will no longer be ALLOWED to own property, cars, a business, etc (Look up Alabama’s Senate Bill (SB) 477 which bans it in that state).

      • 45caliber

        Ann Wilson:

        You need to do some study. It is no more the corporations that control government than it is some minority group. A few of the real leaders get their money from corporations but very few actually work or have ever worked. Corporations are made up of workers.

        Basically you can call the real leaders of both the Demos and the GOP whatever you like – One Worlders, intellectual elite, etc. – but they are simply people who are convinced that because they have inherited their money and have made more by investing that they are smarter than everyone else and therefore deserve to tell everyone else how to live. And, since it also insures that no one ever puts them at risk of losing their money, if they help themselves at the same time it is only fair. After all, they are better than the rest of us and deserve to have the perks none of us should have.

        • http://awkingsley.wordpress.com awkingsley

          My response to Danny was obviously in regard to candidate donations. You need to do your reading, Globalism is about corporate control.

      • SamFox

        So Danny, where is the ‘conservative Republican’ you have in mind? Since it’s not possible to accurately call Mitt ‘conservative’, who’d ya have in mind?

        Ron Paul, who many foolish un-researched sheep like to trash, was the only true major ‘party’ candidate who was running who actually IS a fiscal conservative. Ron would have come with a marvelous bonus; Ron is also a Constitution advocate who would follow our Founder’s advice.

        Mitt? Here ya go:

        Romney exposed
        http://tinyurl.com/86meydk

        Fake Conservative Mitt:
        http://www.newswithviews.com/Nelson/kelleigh123.htm

        Snakes On A Campaign, M Romney, by Southern Avenger
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3etUOq7hVE

        Romney & 0bama the same.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWDJEc92d38

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vS9SF3vc-A

        Thanks.

        SamFox

      • http://todaysconstitution.wordpress.com usirius

        As far as “another Ron Paul supporter”.

        I can tell from your comment tht you do not know that our government is a Constitutional Republic and what that entails. We owe our allegiance to that document, not anyone who is temporarily occupying positons to do the duties the Constitution assigned that branch. That is all they are Temporary help. Are they illegally taking powers not assigned to them. Sure. Because it is up to the ones who made the states, which created the Constitution, which defined what the federal government can do, broke it into three branches, reitereated our natural rights that they are forbidden to ever mess with … This knkowledge that ALL American citizens are supposed to have is why education was dumbed down. Here, something that might help you to understand, the emphasis is mine:

        “God provided that in this land of liberty, OUR POLITICAL ALLEGIANCE SHALL RUN NOT TO INDIVIDUALS, that is, to government officials, no matter how great or how small they may be. Under His plan OUR ALLEGIANCE AND THE ONLY ALLEGIANCE WE OWE AS CITIZENS or denizens OF THE UNITED STATES, RUNS TO OUR INSPIRED CONSTITUTION which God himself set up. So runs the oath of office of those who participate in government. A certain loyalty we do owe to the office which a man holds, but even here we owe just by reason of our citizenship, no loyalty to the man himself. In other countries it is to the individual that allegiance runs. THIS PRINCIPLE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE CONSTITUTION IS BASIC TO OUR FREEDOM. It is one of the great principles that distinguishes this “land of liberty” from other countries”. J. Reuben Clark

        Think of it this way: the Constitution assigns duties to those who serve within the three branches of our government. A US President is assigned the duty of enforcing the legal laws of our nation (legal laws MUST follow the US Constitution or are illegal, and can only be enforced by thsoe who do not understand their Oath, or are willing to obey orders without question – Germany – or are assisting in the destruction of our legitimate government willingly.

        Like assigning a child the duty to clean their room: it does not matter if the room is in a house, a palace, or a space ship – their job is to clean their room. The job does not change, understand?

        The first question a Presidential Candidate SHOULD always be asked is where they stand on the US Constitution and will they keep their legally binding Oath? If they say no, or that they want to change our government they should be discarded as a candidate.

        Ron Paul has fought for our legitimate government for his whole polical career against those who were bought and sold with no honor, no honesty and are willing to destroy our nation, take YOUR life, your chidlren’s life, etc.

        Let me know if you are finally willing to understand YOUR part of the US Government – because here in America – “We the People” are sovereign. And what happens here is what WE allow.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=558588562 Jim Smith

        Get your head out of your rear.
        Its already been explained why the 2 party system is corrupting this country and you ignorantly profess to keep on doing the same thing. People like you are the problem.

      • Stuart Shepherd

        Thank the Good Lord God Almighty in Heaven one of y’all blessedly enlightened “Liberty Alert” “10ther” Libertarians finally put it all in one nutshell and what you can reasonably do about it that would be the most productive!!!! I read this newsletter daily. It is, BY FAR, the most astute and even actually quite profound often. They talk about “Starbucks socialists”- I never wanted to be an “e-mail libertarian/conservative” but I couldn’t see how to be effective other than voting (and I live in DC so even that’s not going to do much, if anything). You made my day.

      • Theresa Kelly

        Obviously you don’t get it! Mitt is a globalist just like Obama!
        If conservatives voted by principals instead of a party we could actually save out country!
        If led by conviction and moral value you would have to abandon 95% of the republican party! The GOP is as corrupt as the Democrats!
        They serve themselves, the interest of banks and large corporations, NOT the interest of the people,
        What used to be called (Post of Honor) these politicians have corrupted into Seats of Greed and Seats of Power. And who my friend wouldn’t? The most evil and corrupt of men except save a few will move heaven and earth to become a congressmen president senator of these “United States.”
        God help us! Ben Franklin gave this exact warning in his letter The Dangers of Salried Beuracracy and conservatives who vote for the GOP have failed to heed it! The people who should know better!

        • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

          How can anyone take a political party seriously if they can’t even operate a convention without a teleprompter with the results already pre-written?

          These are supposed to be political people who should already know how the House, the Senate, and how conventions are run. What the 7734 do they need a word-for-word script for?

          Follow the agenda, call the votes and debates as needed, and record the results. Business as usual for politicians.

          If the people who are chairing, and their parties, need to do this stuff off of a script, why in the 7734 are we voting for them to do this for a living?

          – Smoov

      • Old Henry

        danny:

        Conservative Republican has become an oxymoron over the last few decades.

        I hear / see that God Bless America mantra all the time. However, God will not bless Ameican unless America first Blesses God.

    • TIME

      Dear Dennis,

      Its not Dave H thats the problem with this nation ~ hell he was not even born when the BREAK’S took place.

      He just like YOU are just as guilty of these CRIMES ~ if you think that Dave H is the ROOT of the problem,
      So to are all Americans who have let down their guard. As I noted on Monday 29 10.- 2012 ~ we lost this nation in 1840, when what we all know as ” CENTRALIZATION” ~ took place, ~ from that point forward ~ the door was open for the Vampire’s to enter the nation’s government and replace it with what we now have.

      So Please at least learn whats broken ~~ rather than worthless ~ let alone 100% totaly controlled grid locked down ~ mass media bag~O~ crap rhetoric.

      There is no { we the People,} Little or other wise~ again in case you missed it the first time that took place in ~ { 1840. }
      If you attended { any } ~ PUBLIC school / PRIVET ~ than you never learned the TRUTH in any way shape or form, and its been compounded by the TON yearly from 1948 onward by that special plactic box we all call a TV ~that feeds all of us ~” Tela + Vision + Programing” ~ daily 24 hours – 7 days per week,
      BTW ~ this goes for all of you what I posted above. If you less than 100 years old you never learned the Truth about anything in school. * Thats the way it is folks rather you like it or not.

      You all need to learn why ~ so here are the ROOT’S for you to start your quest for TRUTH, Andrew Carnegie, & Jonh D. Rockefeller, ~ the English Orphanage system of teaching ~ Thus ~ ” Teaching Doctrine” ~ thus ~ “IN~DOCTRINATING” you / MAKING ~ stupid.

      To do this you can do many differant viens of research that will bring you to the same page, TIME after TIME ~ {as in with all science if you can reproduce the same results you have have the truth.}
      If you so wish to start to break the mold and learn something ~ Start with John Taylor Gatto at least you have a fighting chance of { learning something,}

      Thank you.

      Peace and Love be with you. Got your bus tickets yet?

    • DaveH

      I love how people like to put words in my mouth. Don’t you have anything better to do, Dennis?

      • http://gravatar.com/cbgard Carlucci

        Michael Boldin is right on – ! We must focus at the STATE level. This article reminds me of what Margaret Mead said:

        “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.”

        I can think of many good examples of this quote – Mahatma Ghandi, MADD, the Tea Party, medical marijuana, and most recently, a victory is close on GMO deception:

        http://www.infowars.com/dont-celebrate-yet-but-a-grassroots-victory-against-gmo-deception-is-now-inevitable/

        Here in Texas, ex-CIA goon Lieut Gov. David Dewhurst lost BIG TIME to Ted Cruz in the election for a senate seat to be vacated by career politician Kay Bailey Hutchison. Ted Cruz is endorsed by the Tea Party. Texans were furious with Dewhurst because he put pressure on democrats and a few weak kneed republicans in the Texas legislature to vote down legislation to rid us of the TSA at our airports.

        http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/07/tonights-second-biggest-loser.html

        Hopefully this article is correct and Rick Perry is the next to go:

        http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/07/tonights-second-biggest-loser.html

      • Deerinwater

        Hmm? It’s these sweeping generalization that you sometimes make, we all are guilty of it at times~ while yours is sometimes snappy and biting ~ so people snap back David.

        You are a bright person, ` work to improve, I have had too. As I have offered many times ~ polarizing people by attempting to insult or demising them closes their mind, not open it.

        I confess, sometimes I am guilt of just not caring to attempt to try with some~ but we should.

        Accept the fact, we need a public consensus for any change that you might wish to implement. This requires numbers of people that share your views. Pissing a lot of people off , telling them how dumb they are is not a good way to do that.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Leadership is always from the top down to lower, President (King), Judges, etc.. The leaders do good then the people mimic, the leaders are evil then the people mimic. It always follows the same pattern throughout history.

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        Yeah, but revolutions spring up from the bottom…

        – Smoov

      • Vicki

        There are leaders and there are rulers. The difference is significant.

        Leaders say “go this way or else” then go a certain way and wait (for you to follow, or not)

        Rulers say “go this way or else” then put a gun to your head to make it clear that there is only one “else”.

        Leaders honor your God given free will.
        Rulers force you to follow their will.

        Leaders will come back to get you when you change your mind.
        Rulers will toss the dirt on your grave.

      • http://todaysconstitution.wordpress.com usirius

        Actually, that is true for countries that have a person or group of people as their government: Dictators, Monarchies, etc.

        Here in the USA our government IS the US Constitution – a document – not any of the people who temporarily occupy positions within the Federal government, nor those who also temporarily occupy positions within our state republic governments.

        The reason why the Constitution of the United States of America is attacked so much is destroying it destroys our government, our liberty, our way of life. Notice that the stronger the attacks are on it, the worse our lives have gotten. When “We the People” are doing OUR job as the sovereign of this country and hodling those temporary workers accountable for their illegal actions then that will change.

        Unfortunately they have made many of the FBI, SS, and Law enforcement around our nation criminals like what happened in Germany (slow takeover of the constitutional government there, using the police – plus militirizing them – and military against the people because they the ones that are trained to “follow orders”, etc)

    • JeffH

      Boy-O-Boy…another attack pointed at DaveH. I guess his message just scares the beegeeses out of some of you and that means he’s been very effective with his own mwssage.

      Scary that such a consistant proponent of freedom and liberty, a dedicated Libertarian, and a man who’s attempts at sharing his knowledge of and dedication to feedom and liberty with others that choose to cast a blind eye at BIG government, the government’s continued usurption of the Constitutionid, freedom and liberty, crony-capiltalism, the failures of socialism and Keynesianism. All of this has become the focus of such personal, and most probably, somewhat orchestrated attacks.

      This is how I see it and personally, I’m gratefull to have him here. He has certainly opened my eyes and thought process. For that, I thank him.

      If I were Dave, I’d consider these attacks a badge of honor.

      • DaveH

        I appreciate your kind words, JeffH.

      • George E

        JeffH,

        I’ll second that. I don’t agree with everything DaveH says, but I think he is certainly a valued contributor to this site, worthy of being heard and listened to..

      • JeffH

        George, well said. I may not always agree with Dave either but he’s gained my respect and understanding…whether I agree or not.

      • JC

        I’ll be the first to third that. :)

      • Dennis48e

        “Boy-O-Boy…another attack pointed at DaveH.”

        If you are refering to my comment it is not an attack on DaveH rather only pointing out the fact that he never promotes grassroots efforts to build the libertarian party. All you ever hear out of him concerning voting is “vote Gary johnson” or the more generic “vote libertarian” in connection with presidential voting.

      • JeffH

        Dennis48e, you are either blind or ignorant…I’ll assume you’re simply blind. Yes, that was an uncalled for personal attack.

        Pay attention son…Yes, he’s passionate about what he believes in, Libertarianism, but to say that all he does is promote a vote for Gary Johnson is just not true. His message has always been consistant and unwavering …one of freedom and liberty.

        Would you feel better if Dave constantly railed for the lesser of two evils…Romney or Republicans? Probably so!
        and more often than not…enlightening.

        You either haven’t been around long enough or you haven’t paid attention to the majority of his posts.

      • http://www.facebook.com/charles.agnew.16 Charles Agnew

        ABSOLUTELY!

    • Alex Frazier

      You’re confusing governance and economics.

      Governance is bottom up. It’s a representative republic that is by the people, of the people, and for the people. The government is not our master. It is our servant.

      Economics is top down. Entrepreneurs capitalize on supply and demand. They borrow money (that’s top down) to build a business. That business employs workers (that’s top down also). Those workers spend their earnings in their local communities and the economy thrives.

      So people create the government (bottom up), and money creates business (top down).

      • tony newbill

        And Obama is trying to make it all Government Bottom up Taking control of the private sector wealth creation way way way to much and thats a Dictatorship US Constitution Forbids such action and Calls for Impeachment of such people that become too dominate of the structure which you have described here Alex !!!!!!

  • GALT

    Broken
    That’s no understatement, either. Pick a clause of the Constitution, and it has likely been violated to the point of nonexistence. Read through the Bill of Rights and you’ll see how few of those essential liberties are truly in place today.

    Since this is an endless message why is it that the people who repeat it never seem to
    have an explanation of any kind as to how any this was possible……..a simple direct
    explanation……that explains how “what exists” came to be……….

    Where are the common law and equity courts?

    The answer to that question is all you need to know…….because knowing it and
    acting on it, is all that is required……..no voting, no campaigning, no protesting, no
    complaining, no guns or bullets………you do not need to understand or believe the
    back story……….you need only take the simple steps outlined……

    Like the magic of a country western song played backwards……..the constitution and all
    your rights are once again available to YOU……then you show two people…..etc, etc, etc.

    Knowledge and a pen are the only weapons required for this ‘revolution”……

    http://www.supremelaw.org/authors/freeman/freeman4.htm

    “If you continue to do what you always did, you’ll continue to get what you always got.”

    • TIME

      Dear Galt,

      A more clear path let alone obvious path ~ can not be found, what a beautiful post!
      Thank you my friend.

      Peace and Love be with you my friend, Please get a bus ticket,

    • http://twitter.com/elenag861 elenag86 (@elenag861)

      Agreed. Great post. But what happens when the knowledge that the pen writes has no affect on the modified automatons? Someone said that all it would take is a 1 1/2 generations to change a country. Well public ed has had more than that. And I think we have been experiencing the results of their Pavlovian training.

      • TIME

        Dear Elenag,

        Wow ~ Now thats a good question, I think you know the answer as its written within the confines of the very Doucment we hold as the Root of this nation. { BTW }a doucment that was based on the {Native American tribes} method of governing.
        ~~Thats also why the 2nd Amendment was written, ~ as it was sure not for hunting chickens.~
        As we all have been told by the CRIMINALS in the City State of DC.

        Please also note again I bring up the $43 TRILLION DOLLAR LAWSUIT that has been filed against these Globlist Criminals who make Madoff look like a baby.
        Also ~ Again the { Children } of the CNBC Exc that reported on this lawsuit, were killed by being stabbed to death, ~ now so you get what we are dealing with his children were ages 2, and 6 and they were “”stabbed multiple times.”"

        We are all going to loose a lot, and you all have to be ready for stepping back in TIME, as in after we clean up the MONEY issue, it will be back to making $5K per year on the high end. But at least it will be {real wealth} and not this Hyper inflated worthless paper.
        Of what ~ again to buy a single OZ of silver takes $39.00 paper dollars, and thats as of today,~~ after a few more rounds of QE 3 that number will be more in line with $250.00.

        Peace and Love be with you. Got your bus tiucket yet?

      • GALT

        Well if people are stupid, they at least understand “money” and for the common man
        this is exactly what the pay off is…….no more fees, fines, or taxes…..no more being subjected to stupid laws that seek to punish you, when no harm or damage is caused…..

        Whether it is greed or desperation the result is the same and the learning process an
        education in itself……..because getting the Constitution back is only the first step, once
        that has been done, we are faced with the daunting task of having to re-argue it all over again………and the process of fighting back will also prepare people for this task…….

        • Jeff

          Is it purely coincidence that the word “money” is contained in the name Romney?

      • Vicki

        Jeff says:
        “Is it purely coincidence that the word “money” is contained in the name Romney?”

        You forgot to mention that ‘R’ is left over. R as in Republican. Coincidence?

        • RichE

          I think it’s a pirate “R”, as in “Arrrr! Money!”

    • DaveH

      Ad Nauseum. Galt is like a broken record.
      This fellow (bonaventure) has a good comment about the United States Corporation:
      http://mises.org/community/forums/p/385/2899.aspx#2899

      • GALT

        Unfortunately, that is not even a relevant comment, let along a good one……anymore
        than this article written by Boldin is anything more than a call to waste energy on things
        which will have no effect or the idiotic belief that Ron Paul or Napolitano could restore to you that which you have unwittingly VOLUTEERED to surrender………

        There is no secret law……..it is admiralty and maritime law and the flag flies in every
        court room state and federal……….while the UCC is also in place in both state and federal jurisdictions………

        All those little bits of evidence that are clearly unconstitutional……..and every other thing
        that is seemingly off…..as your “privileges, benefits and immunities” are whittled…..all
        of it is explained by the fact that you are no longer operating under “common law”…..
        nor do you reside in a state…….nor are you identified on any legal document as
        DavidH………You are now DAVIDH……..and you live in a two letter designated
        federal district………….and apparently you have been in a coma all your life……..

        ad nauseum???? you betcha……..in every way possible and at every opportunity….
        noting the cheerful fact that you are PAYING your unfair share and part of everyone else’s
        that understands this TRUTH. So every time you open you wallet to pony up, think
        of ME TOO……….

      • DaveH

        As I’ve said before, Galt, I have no fear of you convincing people with your grammatically poorly written and disjointed comments. So I feel no dire need to bother with your comments.

      • GALT

        Actually you can’t respond intelligently because you have never bothered to READ the information provided……or you wouldn’t have posted that link as an interesting comment….when it was irrelevant.

        What you seem to be in dire need of is a way to stop the re-distribution your hard earned
        money, because you can’t stop complaining about it………..

        So since you are not going to do anything to help yourself and you are not
        concerned that others may listen and do something to help themselves ( which has
        got be the stupidest self contradictory position ever held by a human being ) why
        is it that…….

        You keep responding saying that it doesn’t matter and that you can’t be bothered to
        respond?

        It is amazing the sheer number of idiots that waste time repeating that very same line…over, and over and over…….

      • DaveH

        Galt tries his adolescent manipulative techniques once again, as usual. You’re boring Galt.

      • GALT

        Yes DavidH, for those of childish intellect, FACTS would be quite boring, after all living
        in fantasy land where you can just make stuff up and avoid REALITY requires no effort
        what so ever………as you so aptly demonstrate.

        • Jeff

          Creepy Bastard (aka DaveH) knows only one thing. His MONEY is his MONEY and any taxation is the same as theft. Creepy Bastard uses public roads and the internet, presumably he went to school somewhere, he benefits from the society in many ways, but his MONEY is his and nobody else is allowed to look at it. Sounds like a 4-year-old except the 4-year-old probably has a Mother who encourages sharing. It’s the difference between a human and a Creepy Bastard.

          • tony newbill

            Good God Jeff you want to Give a bunch of Cronies more Money and control , don’t be foolish man !!!
            And to top it all off the Top Crony wants to cap Growth and Limit tax revenue growth by this limitation on growth his extreme Regulatory Bolsheviks have going on and then expects to Raise taxes to Compensate for this CABAL on Liberty For crying out Loud man this Guy is not this stupid so hes got a master plan that will bring down the capital system and you are buying into this ???

          • Jeff

            I’m not talking about tax rates. Creepy Bastard equates the very concept of taxation with theft. So do the rates really matter?

          • tony newbill

            Pennsylvania , Ohio are Not hearing this I bet !!!!
            So OHIO are you Going to Vote for Yet again Obama because He says he will get you manufacturing JOBS and then He drop the ball like he did before ??????

            Right here in this article 2008 Hillary and Obama are at each others Throats about the Manufacturing Jobs in OHIO and how Clintons trade policies were at fault for the Out sourcing , and then Obamas Economic Adviser says don’t take it Serious Folks ,
            http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/03/clinton_goes_af.html
            I think we need to try someone NEW maybe he has a WHOLE NEW IDEA !!!
            Northey makes case for Romney election
            http://www.cattlenetwork.com/e-newsletters/drovers-daily/Northey-makes-case-for-Romney-election-175992361.html

          • Jeff

            Ohio is adding manufacturing jobs. The Chrysler plant Romney has been lying about is adding jobs. What would you have Obama do – start a business and employ people himself? You say government can’t do anything, then you blame Obama for not doing anything. It can’t be both ways. Meanwhile, look what Romney (he;’s the major investor) is doing in Freeport, Illinois with the Sensata factory. The whole plant is closing and all the jobs are going to China. If he really wants to fight for American manufacturing jobs, wouldn’t this be a good place to start? With a personal commitment that might cost him a huge windfall profit? But then he wouldn’t be Romney, would he?

          • tony newbill

            Jeff You just took a Crap all over Obama by saying he has nothing to do with the Jobs in Ohio and hes AWOL on the Jobs leaving for China , looks like you are starting to see the Light , I knew you would the longer we debated ……

          • Jeff

            Can you actually read and understand a sentence? I said you said the government can’t do anything.

          • tony newbill

            Jeff lets talk about this , • MSN Money
            Should FEMA be run by the states?
            ht tp ://money.msn.com/politics/post.aspx?post=7ccf234a-f324-4cb9-baae-dc362f18decb&ocid=vt_fbmsnmon
            I think Yes because the Money being controlled by a federal Government thats too ideologically perverted to be Preemptively focused on states needs and tries to centralize the relief efforts causes bottle necks in distribution efforts . States being in more control would spread the resources out and better access faster would be a better result . All you need to do to see a Example of the Use of money and resources by Ideological Federal Officials is in this Video …. ht tp ://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/25/obama-on-leno-these-banks-are-profit-seekers-which-is-precisely-why-we-need-to-regulate-them/

          • tony newbill

            Jeff its Obamas Money right ?? We better get use to this NEW Currency that will have on the front in BIG Bold Letters BEG and I might trickle some down to you after me and my cronies get done …. oh and get to volunteering for the work we need done on fixing our roads and hoeing the fields if you want something to eat because China cut off our regular parts supplies so i had to declare a State of Economic National security nationalizing and rationing the supply on hand , so you all work for me now so get use to it !!!!

          • tony newbill

            Oh and Jeff when we are out in the fields the New Snap-on Truck will be a Cart pulled by a Donkey and he will be distributing Hoes, Rakes, Shovels and other hand tools to Hand working the Fields rather than tools to fix tractors , same with the Road work Picks and shovels for that , too so this will eliminate those Useless eater now won’t it ????

          • tony newbill

            Jeff I think rather than go down that road of who Really wants to go Backwards to reduce population growth , it would be better to go with this guy , listen to what this Iowa state sec of Agriculture says , Northey makes case for Romney election
            http://www.cattlenetwork.com/e-newsletters/drovers-daily/Northey-makes-case-for-Romney-election-175992361.html

    • John

      I’ll tell you how we got here. The Warburgs came here at the turn of the 20th century and elected a president named Woodrow Wilson. He created a central bank which allowed foreigners to control our currency. He also created income tax and abolished tariffs on imported goods coming into the USA. As if all that wasn’t bad enough, Teddy Kennedy came along and changed immigration policy to let any scum sucking pig that wanted to come here come here. Very breifly, that is why we are no longer a constitutional Republic.

  • Sailor

    The Omoron deception is rather clear…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw&feature=related

    • cbgard

      I don’t watch a lot of mainstream t.v., so I hadn’t heard about the 43 trillion dollar lawsuit and tragedy of Kevin Krim, @ CNBC until I read TIME’S post above:

      TIME says:
      October 30, 2012 at 8:33 am Dear Elenag,

      “Please also note again I bring up the $43 TRILLION DOLLAR LAWSUIT that has been filed against these Globlist Criminals who make Madoff look like a baby.
      Also ~ Again the { Children } of the CNBC Exc that reported on this lawsuit, were killed by being stabbed to death, ~ now so you get what we are dealing with his children were ages 2, and 6 and they were “”stabbed multiple times.””

      I don’t know if anyone has seen the following:

      http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=147459

      .

  • Paul Wells

    This is great information! I seriously wonder though, how many will actually act on it?

    • http://www.facebook.com/michaelboldin Michael Boldin

      Hopefully….many. Many already are, which is why there’s already a tenther movement happening around the country, but it’s going to take more to make it successful in the long run

      • DaveH

        Great article, Michael.

      • GALT

        Actually sir, Mr. Boldin, your article was a piece of recycled garbage, which could only appeal to the “functionally illiterate”…….

        Confused?

        You use your set up to establish that the government is ignoring the constitution, they ignore lawful money, limits on declaring war, and just about anything they want that is inconvenient……..

        But you in your wisdom are involved with a movement that believes that an amendment
        is going to make a difference………how’s that working out for ya buddy???????

        Idiots leading idiots……I guess the leader’s are getting paid…..looks like you are getting
        paid……….so how does this work…….just keep babbling as long as the money comes in?

        It’s not like the government cares,,,,,,,you are just another fool distracting the public from the TRUTH……………better yet, be an excellent idea if they let everyone believe you actually represented a threat………sound familiar?

        Does that improve sales? or donations?

        Enjoy buddy……while you can……remember though, in most cases the TRUTH doesn’t pay well………

  • MD

    Great article! Really well thought out and said.

  • http://freedomat5am.wordpress.com/ New John

    Very, very , very well said. (And this from a guy who thinks the word “very” should be removed from our language. ;-)

    I will share this far and wide.

    Keep fighting the good fight, Michael; we’re with you.

    Thank you.

    New John
    Freedom At 5 AM

    • http://www.facebook.com/michaelboldin Michael Boldin

      Very (I’ll just use one) much appreciated. thank you…

  • yankee doodle dandy

    I was with you until you tried to tell me which way to vote on the TSA, NDAA, and the ACA. That’s democracy for you, some people have a differnt views of reality.

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear yankee doodle dandy,

      You write: “I was with you until you tried to tell me which way to vote on the TSA, NDAA, and the ACA. That’s democracy for you, some people have a differnt views of reality.” So you admit you don’t believe in freedom?

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Eightsouthman

        I’m always amazed at those who seem to like being repressed or think the Reps or Dems are the answer when it should be obvious they’re the problem. Just how many rights can these people lose and still get on a major party wagon? I’m more amazed they think that somehow being a cheerleader must protect them from the state. Just step on that crack in the sidewalk after some govt. idiots have passed a law not to, find out what your undying loyalty gets you then.

        • Steve Van Osdell

          Eightsouthman – AMEN BROTHER!! It is pitiful isn’t it? Sounds like you are an INFOWARS.COM listener and know what is going on and wide awake.

      • TIME

        Dear Steve and 8 Southerman,

        As you must kow by now the method of what was written down all those years ago by a few real men. ( Was ~ back then we elected “ADVOCATES” ~ to be our voice as in we the people,) ~ who elected our Congress persons, as well that each states Governors appointed each states Senate persons.

        Now what we have are “LAW MAKERS” ~ as they feel we are just to stupid to know whats good for us.

        As well as I noted above, the issue is ~~”CENTARLIZATION” ~~ of POWER.

        That Completes the circle, ~ to take away your Rights granted under the Bill of Rights as well makes the Constitution ~ Null & Void. Oddly ~ By your own Consent, due to the same protocol used every TIME, ~~ Create an problem,~~ have event, ~~ have solution in hand, then have the people BEG for that very Solution. .

        Look ~ what all of you need to understand is this: There are two sides of LIGHT, there is Good and there is EVIL, ~ both see things from a differant point of view based on the lights used by each.

        Thus if your a ” BENEVOLENT” person you see positive light,
        Yet if your a “Malicious” person you also see a light but its different.

        Thus ~ both have a like balance, ~ just a totaly different ~ platform..

        Peace and Love be with you. Got your bus tickets yet?

      • Nadzieja Batki

        No, Time, that is not the way it is. You can do more damage to a people when people perceive that they are being done good. They won’t question the motives as to why someone wants to do them “good”.

      • TIME

        Dear Nad,

        Some day you may wish to look into ~ “Comprehension”

        Peace and Love be with you.

    • roger

      right yankee, until it’s YOU who gets dry-humped by a TSA goon right before you get locked up indefinitely by NDAA without charge or trial. Then maybe your tune will change, but probably not……..

      • nc

        Roger, What is your reply to these headlines? “TSA “DRY HUMPINGS(?)” SUSPENDED! Wacko with an undiscovered crotch bomb blows up plane carrying 300 school kids on school trip. ”

        “Don’t touch our bodies! We don’t care how many die.” Signed: Personal Liberty Alert
        PITIFUL!! TAKE A BUS!!

      • DaveH

        You’re the coward, NC. You take the bus.

      • JC

        nc….how stupid can you possibly be?
        the TSA has NEVER caught ANYONE that was a threat of ANY kind
        What they are in place to do is humiliate Americans….veterans, old ladies in wheel chairs, little children….you know! Like the Brown Shirt NAZI’s they really are.
        They have got to go right along with all you liberal (socialist) Pcs. of….work.

      • http://www.facebook.com/charles.agnew.16 Charles Agnew

        80 year old Grandmothers don’t carry bombs in their “Depends” nor do 2 year old toddlers! No one puts their hands on me without my permission! I will never fly again. Till this Country get’s off this politically correct “horse[expletive deleted]” we’ll never be safe! Racial profiling? You’r damned right! Sorry if i offend you or make you uneasy but decisions should be based on FACTS! Fact is, 99% of EVERY terrorist attack on our Country and others have been by Muslim Males between the ages of 28 to 35! Ya don’t have to ba a damned “rocket scientist” to figure this out people! Wake ta hell up!

        • George E

          Well said…………

    • http://www.facebook.com/michaelboldin Michael Boldin

      It’s an election guide. You were expecting “advice” on how to vote, right? I just happen to focus all my energies on getting to the constitution…

  • Steve Van Osdell

    Voting for the lesser of two evils…. the greater evil you vote against this election will quickly become the lesser evil you will find yourself having to vote FOR in the next election. (quote by Stephen Van Osdell – ME!) By definition, this approach creates a downward self-fulfilling spiral into the abyss. I believe that if Jesus Christ was running as a 3rd party, my friends would be criticizing me for voting for him because ‘a vote for anyone else but Romney is a vote for Obama’! They don’t understand what voting your conscience means.

    • http://freedomat5am.wordpress.com/ New John

      …the greater evil you vote against this election will quickly become the lesser evil you will find yourself having to vote FOR in the next election.

      Nice. I like it.

      • Mamamia

        I’m liking the 3rd party thing. Until we find out the we are voting the lesser of 5 evils! I hope not.

  • NOWANDTHEN

    When people in this country has had enough,you better believe they will do something about it!!!This country has been on a down hill fall ever since LBJ,then of course after him came RMN(a double hit right in a row)So your not telling me something I don’t already know!!I But I will tell you something that you may not know,I’m sure the hell not going to vote for a third party(as I would like to do)and give obama another 4 years!!!Thanks but no thinks!!!!

    • Jeff

      State’s rights! Always and still the battle cry of the wannabe oppressor. Environmental regulation at the state level? That’s a joke. Air and rivers do not respect arbitrary borderlines. Weakening the federal government has one aim – the empowerment of big business. Nature abhors a vacuum. If we, in the form of government, don’t make the rules, they’ll be made by the Exxons of the world. And they won’t respect the 10th amendment either.

      • tony newbill

        JEFF don’t Let the Power and Independence be consolidated into a Central Power like the Federal Government , what are you doing man , are you wanting to reduce the US Flag down to a ONE STAR FLAG ??? REPORT the TRUTH about what the Bureaucrat , Technocratic and Political Ideologues are screwing up and planning, and why BIG GOVERNMENT like the FOUNDERS WARNED us Against is Now Threatening the Liberties and God Given right to Life and the Pursuit of happiness is under siege by the very Ideologues we were warned would be coming , over and over and over again , its Our time to realize this and deal with it , and Vote these people out of Power !!!!!
        Justice with Judge Jeanine Opening Statement 10/27/12
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Mg-e71IDAUw
        Globalists Suggest Engineering Smaller Humans to Preserve Natural Resources
        h t t p : / /occupycorporatism. c om/globalists-suggest-engineering-smaller-humans-to-preserve-natural-resources/

        • Steve Van Osdell

          My wife (very happily married for 12 years) is from Ukraine (former Soviet Union). I traveled there in 2007 for the 75th anniversary of the ‘Great Starvation’ which happened under Stalin in 1932. My wife is of the strong opinion that all you folks who want to live under a centralized all-powerful federal government should have had to live under Stalin back when. Then you would change your ‘tune’. She also sees mainstream media here as no different from the government controlled ‘Pravda’ and ‘TAS’ back in the day of the CCCP (USSR). I see a lot of voices here (shockingly so) who I believe would have been cheering Caesar when he crossed the Rubicon and brought his legions into Rome! Oh, how true it is that ‘those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it!’.

      • eddie47d

        Absolutely true Jeff. What short memories some have in the terrible destruction some big businesses had on America. They became wealthy by ruining other important aspects of our lives. Then the taxpayer had to come in and clean up after them and I don’t believe most Americans want to return to those days. Maybe someday we’ll find a decent balance.

      • boyscout

        You do have a point Jeff. I am not in favor of eliminating Federal government, just reining it in, restoring checks and ballances (and thereby the Bill of Rights) and keeping them out of my back yard and bedroom.

      • DaveH

        So many ignorant statements by Jeff, but you gotta love this one — “Weakening the federal government has one aim – the empowerment of big business”.
        Pick up a copy of this book to learn just how wrong (as usual) Jeff is:
        http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Ripoff-Business-Government/dp/0471789070

      • DaveH

        And here’s a Free book (thank you Mises Institute) from which you can learn how Government (at all levels) has been aiding fraudulent banks since the beginnings of our country:
        http://mises.org/Books/historyofmoney.pdf

      • DaveH

        Probably before you read “A History of Money and Banking in the United States”, you should read this book to get a better grasp for the concept of money:
        http://mises.org/books/whathasgovernmentdone.pdf

      • 45caliber

        Jeff:

        Finally, a liberal who realizes pollution crosses boundaries! We have several Congressmen who are convinced that if they shut down all industry in the US it will keep our people safe. When pointed out to one of them that the companies would simply move to another country and build there (getting rid of all our jobs) the Congressman replied that at least the people wouldn’t get any pollution because it wouldn’t cross the border into our country.

        The real problem is the level of pollution. Texas has a decent environmental agency. But the EPA tried to set up car standards for pollution that even NEW cars couldn’t meet. The only way you could drive is if you bought a new car (they were exempt from the standards for two years) or if you were on welfare (those cars did not have to be inspected). Many of the standards are ridiculous. For instance, it is okay to have an area contaminated with 30,000 ppm of lead since it was next to a highway intersection that the government would have to clean up while a 3 ppm level was too high if it was on private land. Explain that one.

      • 45caliber

        Steve Van:

        You are right about the history and the Soviet Union! Every preson who insists that socialism is the way to go should have to live in Cuba (as an example) for 5 years. History has so many errors in it (at government requirements) that it is almost useless in high school. What REALLY happened has been one of my hobbies for many years. A local high school girl realized that one of the things in her history book was wrong and brought it to the teacher’s attention; she was told by the teacher that “this is the way the government wants you to learn it so you better learn it this way. And it WILL be on the test!”

        I would urge everyone to make a study of history – to find out what happened so we don’t repeat the errors made. I’ve said many times that any time you hear a politician say “Look to the future!” that he’s trying to insure you don’t realize he’s making the same mistake others have made before – and it didn’t work then either.

    • John

      What is the matter? You didn’t like tricky Dick Nixon’s secret plan to end the Viet Nam war? Or were you just upset that he created five new federal bureaucracies? Of course, it might have been that funny business about gold, or maybe it was the wage and price controls, or the first gas lines, or the fact that his actions created the libertarian party? There is just so much! He might even be considered the father of voting for the lesser of two evils.

  • Roger R. Fernandez

    Dear friends:
    After a great deal of thought and prayer, I decided to write about something that has been bothering me for quite some time (beyond the stumbling economy) and that is going to be resolved once and for all satisfactorily, I hope, in the coming general election. To explain my uneasiness that has now become a real fear, I need to trace, as briefly and respectfully as possible, first the origin and then the development of my profound affection and admiration for this country and my present worry about its cloudy and, most importantly, endangered future.

    In 1954 I first came to the United States of America from my native Spain, via Italy, to study at Marist College in Poughkeepsie, New York. That was the opportunity I needed to realize a dream that I and many other students had, at an international Marist school in Grugliasco, near Turin, Italy, to come to study in this captivating country. As I wrote in my first book, Odyssey to Opportunity, the history of this unique country fascinated me and “I soon came to appreciate and admire the courage of its Forefathers who, braving untold suffering, showed unyielding faith and fervent yearning for liberty…” My mind would often go back to that historic moment when the Founding Fathers of the Republic “valiantly strove to reap the truly rich harvest of a nation that was to live in freedom”. Furthermore, “I thought that their true genius was to build for posterity a respectable and secure home for liberty… That remarkable period of achievement, I found it embodied in its people’s manners: helpfulness warmly tempered by goodness of heart; openness, jealously nurtured by a sense of fair play and resourcefulness, modestly fostered by simplicity”.

    Such was the country of which I became very fond and which I had to abandon when my permit to study here expired upon my graduation from Marist College in 1958. After a three-year hiatus, I returned to the USA from Cuba where I had spent the previous six months working as a translator for Prensa Latina, alongside Gabriel Gacía Márquez when he was writing his Nobel Prize winning novel Cien años de soledad (One Hundred Years of Solitude).

    My half-a-year stay in Havana became one of the most stressful and agonizing periods of my life, for the attacks and threats against the USA were constant, persistent and never-ending. Fidel Castro’s frequently and loudly professed objective was to bring his revolution to this, his most “despised” country, and to bury the capitalist system that this great nation had been leading. Seditious propaganda from Havana was being faithfully and methodically sent to most of the Colleges and Universities in the United States. It aimed to radicalize this country and derail its economic and political system by the end of the 60’s or beginning of the 70’s.

    With great difficulty, very few material possessions and a visa that the American Consulate had issued for me in Durban, South Africa, I returned to New York on the 21st of November, 1960. After obtaining the Department of Immigration’s permit to work here legally (with the Declaration of Intention to become an American citizen) and to continue studying towards my Master’s and PhD degrees, I taught five years at Wantagh High School in New York and then moved to California to teach at Los Angeles City College, where I sadly experienced in 1967 the nefarious effects of the students revolt that was at the time plaguing this country.

    I remembered, then, the 1960 radio appeal that the renowned Spanish Communist female leader Dolores Ibárruri (world known as “La Pasionaria”) broadcast from Czechoslovakia to all people in Cuba: “We have already achieved Revolution in Cuba. Now we must do the same in the United States of America. The liberal press will help us in the endeavor”. Remembering, furthermore, the Cuban seditious and incendiary propaganda that was flooding our Colleges and Universities, I thought that the “revolution” had indeed reached the United States.

    Fortunately it did not succeed, but the struggle towards that end still continues to this day, for the forces that propelled that student rebellion continue yet very active in this country. William Davis Eaton accurately defines them when he writes in his book Liberal Betrayal of America and the Tea Party Firestorm: “The rebellion of the new liberalism, some now call it progressivism, began the 1960s riots against authority on hundreds of college campuses…” For his part, Glen Beck did expose, with well researched evidence on his Fox News television program, just last year, some of the activities and numerous verified left leaning links of those doleful forces, bent on dismantling the economic political system of this great nation.

    In the 2008 presidential election, Barack Obama managed to infatuate millions of people into blindly voting for him, even though he lacked practical experience to govern and tolerating disposition to listen. Hiding his radicalism as well as his aversion for the principles that have made this country the envy of the world, he presented himself as centrist and proclaimed, later on, that his objective was to “fundamentally transform” the country. This means dismantling the system of freedoms, including freedom of religion and of expression, that our Forefathers built for us. Thus, he has governed ideologically from the radical left, subversive of the Constitution, instead of pragmatically from the center and respectful of it, as partly evidenced by his attacks on Catholic teachings and on conservative radio and television programs.

    In addition, “to fundamentally transform” this country, Obama chose priorities that the majority of the people did not like, but that would consolidate the true program of his presidency to bring about the decline of the country: to usurp first, in order to redistribute later. So, his first priority was to create a privileged economic pact that would allow him to do whatever he wished, not with his money nor with private money, but with public funds. In other words “redistribution of wealth” as his domestic precedence, inspired from Saul Alinsky’s Marxist ideology and encouraged from the White House by Van Jones, a self-avowed communist “czar”, who was literally screaming “Give them the wealth! Give them the wealth!” Finally, Van Jones had to resign, but his plan of redistribution still lives on, even by extension, through Obamacare.

    At a second level, Obama initiated the redistribution of power as a foreign strategy as he clearly insinuated in his speech at the General Assembly of the United Nations in September 2009 and openly showed in Libya’s latest rebellion “leading from behind”. He even promised to the then Russian president Dimitri Medvedev, at the Nuclear Security Summit last March, that he would be “more flexible” after the November election. This position does not establish a new initiative of leadership. It institutes rather a new strategy of contraction and timidity, which has left defenseless, for example, our Consulate at Benghazi, Libya, where our ambassador and three other American heroes were murdered, after the Administration refused to send them the help they requested to repel the terrorist attack.

    It is evident, at least to me, that The United States needs a regenerating metamorphosis, a historical turnabout. It is also clear to me that this country has to decide between two diametrically opposing destinies: to recover the essence of a free and world inspiring country or to reinvigorate the evident despotism that has been gestating under Obama with his abusive “executive orders”, several of them considered unconstitutional. We now have the opportunity to reclaim a future, respectful of the Constitution and defender of the original principles and ideals of the Republic, as proposed by Mitt Romney, or continue Obama’s disastrous present idealized from his father’s anti colonial dreams and the Marxist aspirations from his mentor Saul Alinski.

    On a very personal note, after fleeing a Communist tyranny during my youth, I feel that Obama is trying to push me back into it during my old age. I do not believe that the American people will allow this or any president to dismantle the system that the Founding Fathers bequeathed to this great and unique Republic. But I also feel that Romney and Ryan will regain that inheritance and return to our beloved land its historical greatness.

    Roger R. Fernandez

    • Steve Van Osdell

      Roger, I’m a native born 63 year old American with ancestors back to the beginning of this country and my wife is, like you, also from a former communist country (Ukraine – former CCCP) and we can only say that we WISH that what you say was true about Romeny being our salvation. Sadly however, we both feel strongly that you are badly mistaken. See Bilderbergs, New World Order, NDAA indefinite detention (which Romney also said he supports!) to mention just a few things you need to learn about. You are never too old to learn.

      • tony newbill

        We Know Obama is a Head strong Ideologue and Romney is Not a head Strong ideologue but one that will Listen to the Peoples Voice . Obama has Not lead with the voice of the majority AT ALL and thats a FACT !!!!

        • Jeff

          You’re dreaming. Romney will listen to your voice if you can write a big enough check. The man is a human calculator. He’ll close an entire city, ship the jobs to China, then tell us how it all pencils out in the long run. Well, people live in the short run.

          • tony newbill

            Jeff the Jobs here in the states will be the advancement of food production through alternative means and you will not get that from obama and his minions they don’t want food abundance they want Uncontrollable Food and energy inflation to drop us all right into their control when they crash for the final time the free markets that give us are freedom from the oppressive Government that ideologues like Obama and his minions want to Harness as the tool to ZERO growth in resource usage and population growth common JEFF they say this out of their own Mouths !!!!

          • Jeff

            Just keep believing that nonsense. Remember, Glenn and Rush will always tell you the truth. Stay stupid all your life.

      • Steve Van Osdell

        Tony, about Romney being the type who will ‘listen to the people’…. I hope for your sake you aren’t holding your breath on this one! You sound like a nice, idealistic, young, and NAIVE person!

        • tony newbill

          Steve are you telling me to vote for obama or not vote at all , whats the logic here Sir ??

          • Steve Van Osdell

            Tony, I’m telling you that there is ‘doodley squat’ difference between Romney and Obama. My wife voted for Romney while I voted for Gary Johnson (absentee). I told her she’d have to make her own mind up, and even though very difficult, she voted for Romney because being from communist country (former USSR) she sees Obama for what he really is. But, she realizes that Romney is also poison, just his poison isn’t quite as strong. I’m telling you that as long as people in this country continue to accept the corrupt 2 party system and where they are only given 2 choices, and where the ‘masses’ are strongly guided in those choices by the mainstream corporate controlled media, NOTHING is going to change much – maybe just slow down a hair. I can understand average people who don’t read and understand all the underlying workings of the New World Order feeling like they need to vote for Romney. Just don’t tell me how wonderful he is! That is like saying arsenic is good for me, but cyanide (Obama) will kill me. Arsenic will kill me too, just a little slower! I want to vote for something/someone who IS NOT poison at all, even if they can’t win THIS TIME!

          • tony newbill

            Steve its funny Anderson Cooper is not at CNN and he can’t keep a job on his own ratings , I can’t get this to post so Google this phrase and it will come up with the Link, CNN’s Anderson Cooper activates ‘Operation Mockingbird’

          • tony newbill

            Steve why I am pushing Romney is because we need to buy time and we won’t get to buy any time with Obama back in , his taxation pans that we don’t even see yet are going to fully collapse the free markets . Don’t you want to have just a little more time to try and find a path back ???

      • George E

        Steve,

        We’re going to get either Obama or Romney as President in this election. Obviously, neither is perfect in any number of ways. However, I can see a definite difference in philosophies between these two men, a difference that may very well steer the country in the wrong direction, so I’ve voted for Romney to try to correct this problem. I am not diluted into thinking that Romney will suddenly transform the country into the Constitutionalist government that the founders originally visualized, but I do believe he can give us an opportunity to continue the struggle toward this goal. I’m convinced Obama wants to transform the country in a way that you won’t have that opportunity much longer.

        • tony newbill

          George You are right , Obama even said the US Constitution is a Tired old rag that has never worked never will , so transformation is his Goal away from that and to the Dreams of his Fathers

      • Kate8

        It would seem that the reality of the situation is that Obama and Romney represent the two greatest factions of those who are enslaving us: Obama is from the communist faction, allied closely with Russia/Putin and China.

        Romney represents the NAZI faction, the European NWO/Rothschilds.

        Granted, the lines are somewhat blurred on these psychopaths from our point of view. They all seek absolute power and nothing for us. No doubt they care little which one wins. Even though they have some infighting going on, I’m sure they plan to take care of one another.

        Either way, we the people lose out on this one, as usual.

        BTW, it also seems that the plan is to cause one series of disasters after another, so that the homeless survivors will be “cared for” in their local Camp FEMA. When the dust settles, those who survive CF will be relocated to newly built UN Agenda 21 controlled cities, fully chipped and assimilated into the Borg Matrix. (Note that these cities are already built and awaiting in China. It seems that the Chinese are well ahead of us.)

        Romney won’t save us from this. He’s for it. Obama has declared himself fully behind with Agenda 21.

        If this is not what we want for our children and grandchildren, we’d better come up with another plan.

        Has anyone seen this?

        http://www.ubuntuparty.org.za/p/home.html

      • Nadzieja Batki

        jeff, you are stupid all the time if you believe anything O says, even if he told the truth it would still be a lie.

    • George E

      Roger,

      I enjoyed your post. Thanks for your thoughts. Please continue to contribute to this board.

      There is one additional thought I think is worthy of mention here. If Obama gets re-elected he will likely appoint one or more justices to the Supreme Court, a body that is fairly well balanced right now, though more left than I’m comfortable with. No doubt he will appoint very liberal Justices who will never vote for anything other than socialist ideologies. This is the “gift” that will continue giving for at least the next 20 years, and will fundamentally transform the country. Unfortunately, there is no absolute guarantee that a President Romney won’t appoint Justices who are moderate or even liberal on some issues as some past Republican Presidents have done, but there can be no doubt that President Obama will appoint hard left Justices given the opportunity. I think we’ve got to take the opportunity to move the court center-right whenever we can to reflect our culture and the majority view of our people, and a President Romney is our only opportunity to do that at this time.

      • Steve Van Osdell

        Yes, you are right I’m afraid. But imagine an election where we had a REAL choice – like day and night difference? If we don’t start looking to another party and other non-mainstream backed candidates then it will never happen. I voted Gary Johnson just to let the system know they need to be scared and that I had to guts to vote from someone the New World Order does not want to ever come to power!

      • DaveH

        If you travel West, George, do you really have any hopes of ever reaching a destination North of you?
        In 4 years it will be yet another Lesser of Two Evils choice as it has been for the 40 years of my voting age. When do you throw in the towel?

        • George E

          DaveH,

          Good question. I’m definitely not ready to throw in the towel and give up to the socialists. That’s what “throwing in the towel” means to me.

          If I were a Libertarian strategist, which I’m not, I’d have to take a view of the world much like the socialists have. They realized that they couldn’t win majority elections in this country on a 3rd party ticket, so they elected to get their candidates in office by running as Democrats. This has worked for them, and now one of the biggest socialist in the country has now become our President. If I really wanted to change the culture in this country to a Libertarian view, I’d take note that the Tea Party actually made a difference in recent elections by working through the Republican Party. This is the way Libertarians should do it as well, I think. You will get your candidates in office quicker than running as 3rd party candidates, and actually have an impact on Republican Party politics. But handing elections over to the socialists because you can’t get your 3rd party candidates elected is just not a good practical long-term approach to obtaining your goals, I don’t think.

      • DaveH

        How has that working within the Republican Party worked for you, George? Has Government gotten any smaller?
        How in the world would you think the Republicans would take us away from Socialism when their Party was founded in the mid-1800s on the concepts of Mercantilism (Crony Capitalism)? And when their party started the Progressive Movement with Theodore Roosevelt? If you paid any attention at all, you saw the way they swept Ron Paul under the rug at the convention. To think that you can change the Republican Party from within, is some mighty powerful wishin’ and hopin’.

        • George E

          DaveH,

          It’s tough, but the best shot you’ve got, I think. The Tea Party is making a difference working within the Republican Party.

          • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

            > The Tea Party is making a difference working within the Republican Party.

            based on what metric, do you believe this?
            (not trying to be condescending, an honest question. I hear people say this kind of thing all the time, but I just don’t see it.)

            – Smoov

          • George E

            Smoovious,

            I don’t know of any metrics on this, so I’m obviously giving you my opinion. I base this opinion on the following: 1) a number of Tea Party candidates won Republican primaries against “establishment” Republican candidates, 2) several Tea Party candidates won elections when they weren’t expected to by the “experts”, and 3) Tea Party Congressmen/women often drove agenda items in the House of Representatives to the chagrin of many establishment Republicans, Democrats including the Obama administration, and main stream media. This was pretty good since the Tea Party is a “people’s grassroots movement” which was endlessly attacked with unfounded allegations by all of the above as being an extreme right-wing racist organization.

      • JeffH

        George E, it’s an overstatement to say that the Tea Party has anything to do with the politics in the Senate or Congress. I’d have to say they’ve been relatively successful at supporting candidates. It’s a slow process trying to find real Constitutional candidates and even though the Tea Party movement has had some success endorsing and supporting certain candidates through the election process…it’s not magic that candidates suddenly declare themselves to be conservative…That became the theme for most candidates before the 2010 mid-terms despite the majority of them are nothing more than neo-cons. Remember that the Tea Party movement is a movement of human beings and humans are not infallable.

        The’re patriot that do love their country though but do not trust our government…that’s the lind of common ground I share with the Tea Party and that’s why I am in support of the movement.

      • http://personallibertydigest wyatt48

        Justices need to start rule by law only. There should be no legislation from the bench. That is not what the justices are elected to do. They are to settle disputes within the law. Not make new rulings by precident or try to influence laws.

    • Jeff

      You conveniently leave out the most important aspect of the student revolt of the 60s you so despised. (I take it you were a devotee of Franco.) It was the Viet Nam War. Were students just supposed to go quietly to their deaths in Viet Nam. Maybe that’s how it was done in your Fascist Spain, but here, not so much. If you want to equate that with Stalin, I just want to know what the HELL you could have a Ph.D. in.

      • DaveH

        The Vietnam War as produced by the Neocon Progressives, the other side of the Progressive coin. What do the Neocon Progressives and the Liberal Progressives have in common? They both advocate Big Government and they share many of the same Crony Capitalists.

        • George E

          I’d make a couple distinctions between the Progressives and Neo-Cons regarding the Vietnam War. First, while both Eisenhower and Kennedy had military advisors in Vietnam, it was really LBJ that got this country into that war in a big way, and did a very poor job of conducting the war in a way that would end it in our favor. He did not run for re-election because the war was so unpopular by the end of his first elected term. Nixon got us out of the war, but wanted to leave as victors, not losers. Militarily speaking, he did that. It was the Democrats, primarily, in Congress that cut off support to the South Vietnamese government after our military left that played a principle role in causing that government to fall to the Communists. Of course, Nixon’s own political screw-ups didn’t help either.

          The Vietnam War was a terrible event for this country in many ways. History may decide that we shouldn’t have gotten involved in it the way we did. However, I don’t think that final chapter has been written yet, at least in my mind. There are still too many strong personal feelings about the war to be completely objective about it. Nevertheless, I do think it is pretty clear that while people and politicians of both major political parties supported much of the war, especially early on, it is true that LBJ and his administration took the lead in getting us deeply involved in the war almost to the point of no return, and it was the Democrats who took the lead in “throwing in the towel” when it became clear it wasn’t going to be a quick and easy war to win. We definitely shouldn’t go to war when it’s not necessary, but when we do go to war, we should fight to win, not give up when the going gets tough. I think the Democrats probably violated both of these rules in Vietnam.

      • DaveH

        You do know, George, that there are Neocon Progressives in both parties, don’t you?

        • George E

          Yes.

    • Sol of Texas

      Roger — This is a well written comment. I wish other posters were so articulate in written form.

      Though I don’t think Romney will be the savior, he has a chance to lead the country in a better direction. I hope he and the next Congress will.

      I support the liberty Republicans (not the social- or neo-conservatives as I consider them authoritarians and ant-liberty). I am appalled at the way many pro-Romney supporters have lied and misrepresented Libertarians. The mindless pro-Romney and Santorum supporters have driven me into the Gary Johnson (liberty Republican) camp by their bullying and despicable bleating throughout the 2012 campaign.

      I hope we can unite for a better America after the election is concluded.

      • Roger R. Fernandez

        Thanks a lot for your constructive comment. I do share some libertarian ideals and not necessarily nor exclusively all the positions of the Republican Party. (I campaigned and voted for Bob Kennedy in the California primary, June 1968…). But, it is important that we unite to stop and reverse the direction this country is going at the present time, away from the virtues, ideals and principles on which it was founded. For now, the only way to go back to our origin is to elect Romeny and Ryan. If you want to read my books in English, yahoo or google me, writing my name this way only. Roger R. Fernandez

    • http://www.facebook.com/charles.agnew.16 Charles Agnew

      Mr Fernandez, i could have said the same thing but not as eloquently as you. Nevertheless, i can assure you that the same spirit and love for this Country is still alive and well just as in 1776. The American people have become lazy and complacent. But if push comes to shove…we will prevail! We always have! Same thing as Yamamto said after the attack on “Pearl”. I think we have awoken a sleeping giant!

  • Bob Davies

    How about a flood of “THINK LIKE A TENTHER” bumper stickers. Many won’t know what that means, but it will start a few conversations. Who knows where that may lead? It’s fun as you learn how to get them thinking.

    • http://www.facebook.com/michaelboldin Michael Boldin

      not a bad idea…

  • KG

    The tenth amendment means nothing without the rest of the constitution.

    For all of you who think the government should do nothing, then don’t drive on the interstate highways, don’t fly out of any municipal or city airports, don’t drink any water, and don’t breathe any air.

    Thanks to “The People” or, the Government, we have all of these privileges to enjoy. And if you think a strong central Government was NOT the intention of the “founding fathers”, then why was the constitution written in the first place? I mean, if the Articles of Confederation worked, then why the need for the Constitution? You guys are full of [comment has been edited].

    • Steve Van Osdell

      People ignorant of history (and who make up their own versions of it as they go and/or only know enough to be ‘dangerous) I find always have to resort to foul language – for lack of nothing more intelligent to say. A telltale sign for sure.

      • KG

        Wow. You describe Bill O’Reiley perfectly.

      • Steve Van Osdell

        To KG: Sorry, I turned OFF FoxNews and all the others about 4 years ago. Wouldn’t waste my time listening to any of them (save for maybe Judge Napolitano). I disconnected cable and don’t have satellite. if I watch TV, it is because I’ve playing a DVD movie or documentary or watching YOUTUBE by streaming. http://WWW.INFOWARS.COM for me! That is where you get the real truth – like it or not.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        It appears that the Dems/Progs/Leftists spend more time watching and listening to Fox channel, to Glen Beck, to Rush, the Drudge, the Breitbart and all the Conservative talk shows like Savage and Prager and Medved and Shnitt and Boortz, etc., and sites like this just to hear and counter what is said. Desperation is making Dems/Progs/Leftists really worried.

    • http://www.facebook.com/michaelboldin Michael Boldin

      It’s a logical fallacy to assume that because a group of people created a government stronger than the previous – that they’d also support government going beyond the limits created in that 2nd one.

    • DaveH

      KG says — “For all of you who think the government should do nothing, then don’t drive on the interstate highways, don’t fly out of any municipal or city airports, don’t drink any water, and don’t breathe any air”.
      Why not, KG? They stole our money, against the will of many of us, to create those things. Why in the world do you think we shouldn’t be able to use them?

    • momo

      KG, constitutional scholar—not. This is the same clown that said communism was in the constitution.

  • Carol

    Vote for Romney and Ryan if you want the ultimate money machine and associations with people with dirty money.
    And what is the garbage about Communism? The extreme right, who will bring hate, fear, ignorance, and anti-science back.

    • tony newbill

      Carol the Romney Ryan platform is to bring greatness and wealth Abundance to ALL in the world . And an educational Value that seeks to allow FREEDOM in choosing the sense to seek a sustainability in Live and Liberty with their daily Pursuit of happiness , not the TOP DOWN mandates of a Obama Centralized dominate controlling force that mandates you to succumb to their Ideologue or pay with your Loss of Liberty !!!!
      Obamas MOTTO is , ” It will Trickle down from ME or it won’t trickle down at all ” !!!!

      • Steve Van Osdell

        Tony Newbill – I wish you could hear yourself when you talk about Romney! I agree with you about Obama, no doubt. But, you make Romney sound like the ‘messiah’ just like the other side did Obama. You sound like a brainwashed communist extolling the virtues of Uncle Joe Stalin! Are you that dumbed down man? I’m shocked almost speechless!

        • tony newbill

          Steve Common give a little thought to Romney having worked with a 87 % democratic Legislature when he was Governor and got the job done making state budgets balance and they want Obama care to be a state by state ran program that together with the right to cross state lines to seek the best priced Insurance will empower the Free market to self correct its manipulated and Subsidized position thats the farthest thing from FREE markets we have ever seen . But we been in this state of complacency for a very long time and the Manipulation of the MEDIA is why we are at this Point …. Have you ever heard of ” Operation Mockingbird ” ???? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

      • boyscout

        HaHaHaHaHaHaHaaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaaHaHaHaHa

        • tony newbill

          go put that flag pin back on your lapel or take off the uniform !!!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      So you are defensive about communism because people believe it is a bad system of government. We have communism lite and full bodied across our borders, north and south. You don’t even have to cross any oceans to enjoy it. Don’t bring it back here to the US. It is not wanted.

    • DaveH
    • DaveH

      Carol says — “The extreme right, who will bring hate, fear, ignorance, and anti-science back”.
      Ignorance? Science?
      You mean like the Homogenic Global Warming Science Hoax, Carol, which Obama embraced?
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtevF4B4RtQ

  • Carol

    If you want power, dirty money and support of the wealthy, vote for Romney.

    • Sherylynne

      Carol, I could not disagree with you more. I would suggest when assessing our current president it woud be prudent to pay more attention to his actions than his words. Power, dirty money and support of the wealthy” defines and describes Barack Obama’s actions. His words bait the uneducated, under-educated and poor. And, the abolition of the middle class has been his achievement.

      • Sol of Texas

        Sherylynne — Yup!

    • JC

      Carol, crony capitalism has got to be stopped…but right now were focused on preserving the nation from the Kenyan Marxist. Why don’t you just sit this one out and let the Americans handle it? ;-)

  • Steve Van Osdell

    Remember, Obama AND Romney both 100% support section 1021 of the National Defense Authorization Act (oka, Indefinite Detention Act). AND OUR ELECTED CONGRESSMEN AND SENATORS VOTED TO PASS IT!!!

  • NOWANDTHEN

    Thanks,I Will!!!

  • Seeker1212

    All you ultra libertarians preach the same logic, although much of what you say is true, the way you present it. is what is very scary to the average citizen.
    It’s not the party, whether you have a two, three, or four party system, it’s very likely there would be no change, because of the power that the elected person gets with the position.
    Only when you make the elected official totally accountable to keep the promises of his/her platform, the reason that they were voted into office, and pass a law that the elected official, both local and federal can be removed by the people through special vote without waiting two to four years to remove that person can we see real change..

    • Steve Van Osdell

      Scary? Really? What the Republicans and Democrats (both supportive of the corporate military industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us so specifically about) should be WAY MORE SCARY than us Libertarians. I really had to laugh at your comment.

    • http://www.facebook.com/michaelboldin Michael Boldin

      you know the country is a mess when talking about the constitution and constitutional remedies – is “scary”

      But like Jefferson said – truth.

    • http://www.facebook.com/marie.cullen.52 Marie Cullen

      AMEN! This is what should be taking place. Hold them to the highest moral standards, make them answer for everything they do, and say. They need to know that there will be consequences to lying to the American people and we will not hesitate to throw them out! It is like dealing with small children, if allowed to behave without any consequences for their behavior they will run wild. Let’s get this started!

    • boyscout

      Eventually we must eliminate the control of those who buy and sell influence and direct the propaganda even if we have to retrieve it from their cold dead hands.

  • MR. JOHN HENRY BLACKBURN (Citizen Liberty Patriot)

    Representation through taxation and a lack of communications was the 2 driving forces behind our liberty from england rule and the designs of our constitution. It was written in all its glory by the same kind of guys that are subverting it today to gain control and reap the wealth of the lands and the toil of the people and when communications came, the need for representatives has fallen to the lowest of lows. Short of becoming a target for the ORDER, all I can say is that were I president, I could put this country back in the hands of the people with one feld swoop of a pen in “one” (1) presidential order that would stand the tests of the law of the land and supreme court and the constitution and give the government of this fine nation of citizens back to the citizen people. FACT: EVERY REPRESENTATIVE (For THE LAST 100 YEARS AND MORE) be it by casting thier votes for their (NOT) constituent majority vote… or by not acting to stop every vote that wasn’t 100% had in accordance with the constituency majorities … have violated thier oaths and are triable for treason and acts against we the people and hangable. THIS INCLUDES THE PRESIDENTS for signing any legistlation that was had by these means.
    Now go home and figure out how to become a real constituent that demands the voice of the constituent majoity be had and get this country back in the hands of the people and the order of the constituent majorities and for those of you who do not like that idea deserve what you get !!!!

  • http://liberty Tony

    TO Everyone: I know that i sound like a skipped,scratched old 33 rpm record. But, both candidates are pathetic. Also, it’s obvious the incumbent will be re-elected. The best bet is vote third party which i did last week in early voting. That was for Gary Johnson of course. Thus, that’s the step to take to go in the right direction.

  • JIMBO

    At age 5,Thomas Jefferson had more KNOWLEDGE & IQ than OBAMANATION has today.
    OBAMANATIONs latest brain-storm is to have a ‘Secretary of Business’. Already with 432, Departments (was 56 in 2008) OBAMANATION will people tripping over each other on taxpayer money. On NOV.7th I picture OBAMANATION under his bed covers with a flash-light. On the bed headboard it says “LAME-DUCK SESSION COME TO ORDER”
    OBAMANATION says ” I’ve got til JAN. 20th to keep destroying the AMERICAN DREAM,
    and make it a EURO-GREECE Economy.

    MITT ROMNEY has 3 more DEBATES !…
    God Bless America… AGAIN… SOON…

  • Dorian Douglas

    2 points.

    1 The main article is wrong about “the lesser of 2 evils”. Unrestrained by not having to ever run for reelection, Obama has told us that he will govern unrestrained to collapse our government and our society. We will not be a Republic by 2016.

    2 We will see what the make-up of congress is. But based on the revolution caused by the Tea Party in 2010, and the number of Tea Party in Congress, we have some built-in restraints for Romney to govern, even if he is not a true constitutionalist. And he WILL have to run for reelection in 4 years.

    Will we get our country back completely in 4 years, even under Romney? Hey, it has taken us 80 years (many would argue even longer) to get to where we are, so we have a lot to do to erase the mistakes of the past. But we have one chance & one choice to make a start. And at least Romney will give us an economy to propel us onward & upward, while we rebuild our “constitutional compliance”.

    Dorian Douglas

    • JIMBO

      Thank You Dorian and God Bless you.
      Mitt Romney is a Counterfeit Conservative But because he is a
      BRILLIANT Business-Man, he will help “US” fix AMERICA.
      OBAMANATION, his ILLEGAL CZARS, CRIMINAL CABINET and OBAMACARE would take America from SOCIALISM to FASCISM which he has planned from DAY 1 !
      GOD BLESS AMERICA… AGAIN… SOON…

  • DaveH

    Michael says — “Sure, you get to choose your oppressors every few years”.
    Well put, Michael.

    • http://www.facebook.com/michaelboldin Michael Boldin

      Thanks, Dave…

  • http://yahoo david

    divide and conquer we are divided on account of oboma 4 more yrs. he will conquer.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      If a people have polar opposite ideologies of government how do you expect people to walk together (agree)?

      • Karolyn

        Compromise

    • Nadzieja Batki

      The only great thing O did was to wake this nation up. I don’t believe that is what he intended but it is good that it happened.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dan.mancuso.56 Dan Mancuso

    To Bob Livingston;
    I think I may be finally getting your drift, I hope. Many of us fear voting our conscience and voting for a third party, because it will lead to another four years of even worse Obamachinations. The truth is it could be just as bad or worse under the the other puppet of the two party system. Correct me if I’m wrong, but are you saying forget your fear or deal with it and vote your conscience because the only way to get to the other side (back to Constitutional ideals) is to have to go through the fire? The out come is not a sure thing and is very frightening! In any event, thanks for making me think, more.

    • DaveH

      The only way to shrink government dramatically is to elect Politicians who want to shrink the government dramatically. The other kind, Obama or Romney, will definitely not shrink Government.

      • Sol of Texas

        DaveH —

        I think you are right on this matter.

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear Dan Mancuso,

      You write: “I think I may be finally getting your drift, I hope.” I believe you are.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

  • Capitalist at Birth

    Silly conversation. A third party will never win any election outside of some rare local situation. Libertarians still have open borders in their platform Do you really think open borders will work? Look at the invasion going on right now as we speak. And these illegals are voting, now and have for quite some time.

    • http://liberty Tony

      To Capitalist at Birth:
      The answer to your question is a big YES!! Immigrants are the backbone of our economy. They keep the wheels of industry rolling. Without them, our society would come to a grinding halt within 5-10 yrs. True, our nation has to weed out criminal types; however, in a modern econ. sense open borders are needed to bring in new ideas, innovations/inventions. Therefore, time to allow immigrants in. Also, our nation is based on open immgration. Thanks!!

      • 45caliber

        Tony:

        First, you REALLY need to take a better look at the illegal immigrants coming in. They are not the backbone of the economy as you said. In fact, they take more out than they put in. That has been documented by everyone who isn’t liberal.

        Second, name one new invention by an illegal immigrant in the last 25 years that means anything. I certainly can’t! Such things came from well-educated LEGAL immigrants – and the feds haven’t been allowing very many of them into the US for nearly a century now.

        Quit getting your data from KOS or Huffington and actualy do a little study.

      • http://liberty Tony

        Alright 45Caliber:
        What about the Doctors from India that are finding better treatments along with cures for Cancer and HIV? What about the Chinese engineers that are creating better rockets and other type of innovations for our transportation industry with outer space? I tell you what, your views will keep this nation back and allow nations in Asia with Africa, that’s right Africa to advance. You now need to reflect. Don’t believe the crud you see on Fax and Fiends/Fox and Friends or the garbage you read on Amren with Stormfront for it isn’t true. Farewell for now!!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        They are worthless as doctors, they were worthless in their home countries and they are even more worthless here. How low do you want the standards lowered so anyone can be accommodated?

      • 45caliber

        Tony:

        I said, “an invention by an ILLEGAL immigrant.” You are speaking about legal ones yet your comments were to lead us to think of illegal ones. As I said, the LEGAL ones who have good educations do a lot of good but few are allowed in. In fact, the last I heard there was about 100,000 legal educated ones allowed in each year vs. millions of non-educated ones who take us to the cleaners. You’ll have to do much better before you can convince me or anyone else who reads these comments.

    • DaveH

      Crony Capitalist says — “Libertarians still have open borders in their platform”.
      I’ve corrected him before on that, but still he insists on blurring the issue.
      From http://www.lp.org/platform
      “3.4 Free Trade and Migration
      We support the removal of governmental impediments to free trade. Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders. However, we support control over the entry into our country of foreign nationals who pose a credible threat to security, health or property”.

  • Cecil Edwards

    You people just do not get it. If Obama is re-elected he will gut the constitution even more than it is today. If one of the moderate to conservative SCOTUS justices were to retire or otherwise leave the court due to medical issues Obama has a list ready to go. Eric Holder for Clarence Thomas, Hillary Clinton for Anthony Kennedy and Cass Sunstein for Antonin Scalia. Does this not give you a warm fuzzy feeling. At that point anything is possible and the Bill of Rights become subjectto the UN charter. HELLO

  • RichE

    You know you’re a Tenther when … you realize you don’t like Obamacare while driving down the Interstate.

  • http://www.sweatyfederalist.com sweatyfederalist

    Michael is 100% right on continuing the Tenther mission regardless of which boob wins. That said, one boob (Barry) promises to raise taxes in January 2013 and the other (Mitt) promises to keep tax rates the same. On this one issue I believe the sincerity of both men. So being greedy enough not to want to share more of my (or my boss’s) wages with the Federal Government, I will cast my vote for Mitt on November 6th and then continue fighting to restore our constitutional Republic on November 7th.

    In Liberty,
    The Sweaty Federalist

    • George E

      Now that’s common sense and good judgement at work. Thanks.

  • Lawrence

    The bible says “My people are destroyed for lack of knowlege” God was telling his people that they had forgotten their heritage and subsequently their God. Is that not also true of our once great country? We as a nation have pretty much gotten the true God of the bible out our lives and God is turning us over to our own confusion, yes and delusion. We have lost our way. I pray God will grant America time to repent of our many evil sins. If we don’t repent we are in many ways lost.

    • http://none Charlie

      Lawrence,,,
      Thanks for Hosea 4:6,,,you said what America in general has been lacking for many years … The Constitution alone will NEVER take America back to freedom,,,because,,,it alone did NOT bring us freedom in 1776… Notice the reason for the Constitution is the first part of the Constitution,,,it’s called “The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America… In the first page of that Declaration The Almighty God is called out at least twice… Notice ,in The Bible King Jesus says He has the same Power and Authority as His Father , The Almighty God, see that at Matthew 28:18, and other places in The Bible… The battle cry of the American founding fathers was “No king but King Jesus”…
      So, today, King Jesus and His Law Book , CANNOT , be second place in taking back the freedom America had under The Mighty Commands of King Jesus Christ… Meanwhile…
      Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

      Charlie Freedom

  • Attila

    Yes, all of these things are good, but may I point out that there is a strong and growing sentiment in the Republican Party to support reforms in those directions. There is none on the other side of the aisle. Just saying a pox on both of your houses allows phony two faced “Blue Dogs” to get in power after which they empower the statists. I would add to your list:

    -Vote in primaries for the most libertarian candidate. Send them money and pass the word. Get involved with the local Republican Party and push for them. A large number of people are in favor of these reforms.

    -There are enough “TEA Party” types in Congress now to bend the system back into line if there is a Republican majority and they grow every election cycle. Remember that the political class bends to the wind, in Congress and at the top. That includes Romney.

  • ONTIME

    In the 09 election I refused to mark a candidate for the POTUS and I know I was right, it was the one part of my ballot that the choice between dumb and dumber made me understand that the choice of a hardcore liberal and a old RINO that had sold out the R party more than once was no choice at all. I know to this day either of these people would have made little to no difference as to what has happened, economically, fiscally, energy wise, foreign policy and morally policy wise in this country. I knew we were in for a big lesson, our learning curve has diminished, out ethics slipped and we have allowed a communist to occupy our Oval Office, there is definate proof available. This guy has destroyed constitutional law, rule of law, violated exec privilege, run religion into the ground and is a moral disaster as a person…I know from whence I speak and men like Corsi, Arpaio, Levin and a woman such as Orly Taitz have spent the time researching and exposing this Fraud in our WH, they in my opinion are real Americans, heros that deserve recognition and if we win this election with a creentialed man for president, then many of us will give these people the respect they have coming….

  • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

    Does anyone posting here know what it is called when someone believes that they are right and everybody else is wrong?

    It’s called Schizophrenia. And the subcategory is Paranoid Type.

    Paranoid type: Delusions or auditory hallucinations are present, but thought disorder, disorganized behavior, or affective flattening are not. Delusions are persecutory and/or grandiose, but in addition to these, other themes such as jealousy, religiosity, or somatization may also be present. (DSM code 295.3/ICD code F20.0)

    • Nadzieja Batki

      tlgeer, you cannot help talking about yourself and the Dems/Progs/Leftists that are walking and working along side of you and O.

    • DaveH

      Sociopath:
      http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

      Hmmm. Describes Progressives pretty well, doesn’t it?

    • TIME

      Oh my dear Little tigeer,

      You may need to deeply ~ rethink your level of intellect, as you clearly have not even a sliver of a clue what your talking about. So, on that note if you can comprehend this ~ good ~ if not that would fail to shock me at all.,

      Who is the { father of modern “Psychology”?} ” Sigmund Freud” From whom did he recieve his funds to author his works and why?

      Who, is the person who used his uncles protocols to futher ensalve the Human race by way of mind control thats still used to this very day? { Edward Bernays } and who was his Uncle again? Oh My GOD ~ Sigmund Freud… Say its not so…….
      Who also gave massive amounts of money to Mr. Bernays to explore his methods of mind control?

      Who was related to both of these persons ~ and yet again ~ who ~ funded this person on his theory? Here’s a hint, this guys name was Charles Darwin,

      Who funded Karl Marx, who wrote the base protocol for the behavior patterns of the above noted people.

      A hint on all of the issue of funding ~ “The Rothschilds” ~ OMG, say it’s not so Joe.

      As you’re clearly just one more in a long line of ~ Un-educated people with opinions based on nothing but thin air, ~ perhaps you should spend some TIME and learn something rather than being a TOOL of stupidness.

      By the way do you know that a Rothschild advocate has the term for people like you, Henny Kissinger calls people like you ~ “worthless eaters”

      Pease and Love be with you.

    • tony newbill

      tigeer you said you wanted proof of Obama enabling the ARAB spring alliance well Russia says so , I guess they are not happy with the Kind of flexibility Obamas Work around Congress is going either , such a dictator huh ??? http://gulagbound.com/35486/russian-authority-claim-us-illegally-giving-weapons-to-syrian-rebels/

    • http://none Charlie

      tigeer,,,
      Which is worse? a “functional psychotic” or a Bible Christian ???

      • Karolyn

        That’s aa good question.

  • 45caliber

    One of the problems with Washington is that too many of the laws (called regulations) are made by career government officials who are never voted for in their entire lives. Most are simply low and middle management people who actually write out the regulations for their bosses to rubber stamp – because the bosses have too much to do (at arguing or “playing” politics) to ever read those regulations. And it doesn’t matter who is elected – those same government employees will remain there year after year until they die of old age.

  • AZ-Ike

    Very good article, Michael. I have been commenting for at least the last two years on the fact that it is more important to elect new and constitutionally committed Representatives and Senators than to concentrate on electing a new (lesser of two evils) President.

    But, as you state, it is equally, and even more important to start the process in our individual States. A return to a constitutional America must start at the State level – and States must (by threat and force (recall elections), if necessary) use the Nullification procedure to take back State Sovereignty and protect their citizens from our unconstitutional and overreaching federal government.

    You are also correct that it will take a great deal of active commitment and re-education of the people to make this happen. The Arizona Legislature introduced legislation in the 2012 Session to nullify NDAA, but although it passed both Houses, it was vetoed by Gov. Brewer. Although the AZ legislature passed a Resolution for Healthcare Freedom, and the AZ Constitutional Amendment was voted for by Arizonans, a nullification of Obamacare did not get past the introduction stage. Our work is set out for us.

  • Jeremy Leochner

    With the utmost respect for Mr. Boldin-”We live under a Federal dictatorship of sorts. Sure, you get to choose your oppressors every few years, but those people still claim the power to do plenty. They tell you what kind of light bulbs you can own and how big your toilet can be. They will arrest you for growing a plant in your backyard and fine you for not purchasing an insurance product.”

    First: The key words are “of sorts”. If you have the ability to say a dictatorship “of sorts” its not a dictatorship.

    Second: “Sure you get to choose your oppressors every few years”. First we have the opportunity to choose our state and local representatives more often then that. Second again if you can choose your leaders in an election it is not dictatorship. And ours is a real election becuase even those who oppose the present administration and the status quo are elected.

    Third: “They tell you what kind of light bulbs you can own and how big your toilet can be.” Annoying, overzealous and intrustive yes, dictatorship that destroys the constitution no.

    Forth: ” They will arrest you for growing a plant in your backyard”. Actually they do not depending on the number, size and the intended use of the plant. And if you have a medical license the situation gets even more murky. So if this is dictatorship it is a waffly one because there are loopholes.

    Fifth: ” fine you for not purchasing an insurance product”. This is a dumb idea but does not equal dictatorship.

    Now as for the comment : “business and environmental regulations that should be the purview of the States or the people; corporate bailouts; and endless excuses for the lies, rules and failures. It’s never-ending.”

    First: “business and environmental regulations” should not be the purview of the states. If they were pollution and environmental damage would happen in states with less regulation and the same goes for business violations.

    Second: The people are in control of the regulations through the government that is “of, by and for the people”. So it is not bad for the government to be in charge of regulations if good people are in government which will do no good if the government is not in charge of those regulations.

    Third: “corporate bailouts; and endless excuses for the lies, rules and failures. It’s never-ending.” These are valid issues but are still not evidence of dictatorship.

    Mr. Boldin brings up numerous valid points about drone strikes and excesses of executive power. He also makes valid points regarding the need for organization and getting involved in state and local elections. However he loses me when he tries to paint the present administration as a dictatorship “of sorts”. The President has made mistakes and immoral decisions. These should be the basis by which we the people judge him. However when we start applying emotional charge and start accusing the Presiden tof something he is not doing we are weakening our ability to have an honest and just process. Nullification takes us down a slippery slope if we base it on the belief that the president is a dictator “of sorts”. The President should be held accountable for his actions and he will be so. And it can be done without Nullification and without denouncing him for being a dictator “of sorts” when he is not.

    • DaveH

      So let me get this straight, Jeremy (aka Flashman).
      If a group of people get together and vote to steal your money, or kill you, it’s okay because they voted?

      • TIME

        Dear Dave,

        And what else would one expect.. I do see that in some ways the light is on, ~ but saddly the bulb is just too loose.

        Is there a way to get the buld in the socket tighter?
        I just don’t know.

        Peace and Love be with you. Got your Bus tickets yet?

      • Jeremy Leochner

        No Dave it is not okay. Problem is no one voted on stealing peoples money or killing people. If the government starts killing people like with drones then they should be held accountable. Or if they steal money by investing n companies that go bankrupt. I know full well President Obama makes bad mistakes. That is why I find it so odd for someone to call him a dictator and then mention all sorts of petty political complaints as the reason why.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Forgive me Time if I do not see the usefulness of denouncing Obama as a dictator and then using petty complaints as evidence. Disagreement with a President is not the same as dictatorship. And using terms like that misleads the public and gets them unreasonablly angered. And ureasonable anger is not conducive to good political decisions. And that is universal, it knows no party or ideological allegiance. I am trying to be reasonable and judge Obama on the decisions he made and the effect they have, not on what it feels like he did and the effect it feels like they are having. Whether its economist Jack Welch questioning the unemployment rate because “this economy doesn’t feel like the employment improved to this level” and “these numbers don’t smell right”. Or Mr. Romney stretching the truth to make Obama look worse then he is-

        1:http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/26/mitt-romney/romney-says-obama-plans-4000-tax-hike-middle-class/

        2: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/18/mitt-romney/federal-regulations-quadrupled-under-obama/

        3: My personal favorite: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/05/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-barack-obama-has-doubled-deficit/

        Obama has made mistakes. But when I hear politicians and pundits exaggerate and outright fabricate mistakes and decisions made by Obama they lose me. I feel Obama is a better choice the Romney. While I have some conservative and even some libertarian views I prefer Obama to the other candidates. Obama is not a dictator. His record is some what wanting but I do not see it as warranting the mention of dictator and nullification. Such ideas and plans are needed in extreme situations and the situation we are in is not it. Paranoia is just as bad over confidence.

      • tony newbill

        Jeremy Leochner Obama is so anti US Constitution that makes him a wannabe dictator . When he is so head strong that he cannot compromise and then goes around the US Democratic process this is traits associated with a dictatorship . If it has to usurp Congress to get done then its Not a Democratic process known in the USA as a REPUBLIC . Romney made the Compromises with a 87 % democratic legislature to get the Job done in Massachusetts and so he will get the job done as US President .

  • Combat seabee

    Doris Carman,
    The House of Representatives can say and do all the things that they want to do, BUT, with Harry Reid and the dems controlling the senate, everything the house does becomes a moot issue as he tables everything. And they say that the Republicans are the party of NO???? Ask Harry just how many balanced budgets by the house he has tabled? I think it’s around 22 instead of allowing a vote. Hmmmmmm, the dems even voted 97-0 against oblowholes budget because he didn’t ask for enough tax increases in his mind!!!

  • tony newbill

    After watch Obama On Leno talk about his views of People Who Profit , ……. My question becomes if Obama is going to be so Harsh on Resource supply Expansion with regulation from the Extremist ran Agencies like the EPA and those extremist NGOs suing at the drop of a Hat over resource productions then how does supply expand and profiting be the way we FIRST FEED a Growing POPULATION and Second to generate a tax rate large enough to pay off the National debt and balance the entitlement programs , if the so called rich are not able to grow and Profit enough with Obamas Over regulations and Limits to Capital Formation ????

    Obamas MOTTO is , ” It will Trickle down from ME or it won’t trickle down at all ” !!!! and that means get use to 8 % average unemployment and 1.5 % GDP because that Pleases my Environmentalist Marxist Bolsheviks base of supporters , right Mr. President ??

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/25/obama-on-leno-these-banks-are-profit-seekers-which-is-precisely-why-we-need-to-regulate-them/

  • http://google David

    Democrat or Republican, the voters made government the way it and it is up to us to gut it out. Put your energy where it counts and get off your butt and be resilient to failure.

  • pete

    One of the first lessons in democracy is found in Thucydides who wrote the History of the Peloponnesian War.. The Athenians voted to invade the city of Syracuse. Why did they vote to do so? The Athenians wanted the plunder and the slaves they could collect by destroying that city. The lesson: the voters in a democracy are not necessarily moral. The majority can vote to steal your property and take your life. Without the structure of enforced law, a democracy or a republic can turn deadly violent… and that is why defending to the Constitution is so dearly important. Without the protections afforded there, we are a lost society. We have to remove from power those who will not do their duty to protect the Constitution.

  • David_of_Hawaii

    This country was broken 200 years before the Declaration of Independence, Constitution and the Bill of Rights were written.
    What chance did the American Indians have against the White Man’s hordes, guns and diseases as they were pushed from sea to shining sea, marched in the Vail of Tears, and otherwise killed or placed on reservations.
    What choice were the Africans given as they were enslaved, chained, and crowded into hot dingy bilges and shipped to the Americas.
    Were the Hawaiian people given an option when their Queen was overthrown under the threat of the US military and a gunboat in Honolulu Harbor?
    It took another hundred years after the Constitution was written before women gained the right to vote.

    Might makes right and the rich and powerful always make the laws to work in their favor.
    Do you think that it takes a 100,000 pages of tax laws to give succor to widows and orphans? No, most of it is loopholes for the rich and powerful so that they can keep themselves rich and powerful as they manipulate the workforce here and overseas to make the most profit regardless of what it does to the local economy.

    Who builds the brightly lighted casinos in Vegas and elsewhere? Every machine, every game is rigged on the side of the house and are marketed to keep the sheeple gambling. The stock market is the same and the taxpayers always end up footing the bill for the bailouts. The rich and powerful are never really hurt by a recession or depression, In fact, they usually gain by purchasing farms and lands at a song that the struggling little guys can no longer hold on to.

  • http://omanuel.wordpress.com omanuel

    Ron Paul was shut out of the campaign because he threatened to return this country to the Constitutional form of government [1] that recognized the Divinely endowed rights of American citizens to “Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness” !

    Now the race is NOT between Obama and Romney: It is a race to get one of them safely across the finish line to get a four year (4 yr) extension on the UN’s losing sixty-seven year battle (2012 – 1945 = 67 yrs):

    1. Truth, Reality, God, Nature, vs
    2. The UN’s Godless communism

    1. The powerful force [2] at the core of the Sun, vs
    2. The powerless force [3] of wannabe world tyrants

    1. Constitutional government of Jefferson [1] versus
    2. The one-world government of the United Nations [3]

    Here’s the story, from 24 Oct 1945 to 6 Nov 2012, and the countdown:

    http://omanuel.wordpress.com/about/#comment-1581

    This battle is a repeat of the classical battle between good and evil that St Francis of Assisi explained in prayers and hymns [4] eight hundred years (~ 800 yrs) ago.

    [1] Thomas Jefferson and the founding fathers,
    The US Declaration of Independence: http://tinyurl.com/5yr32
    The US Constitution: http://tinyurl.com/yqm97q and
    The US Bill of Rights: http://tinyurl.com/dugh9

    [2] Oliver K. Manuel, “Neutron repulsion,” The Apeiron Journal 19, 123-150 (2012) http://tinyurl.com/7t5ojrn

    [3] The United Nations, “Core Agenda 21″, http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/

    [4] St Francis of Assissi, “The Prayer” & “A Classical Hymn” (1225)

    http://www.easwaran.org/the-prayer-of-st-francis.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSb1-9i-fDA

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      “Ron Paul was shut out of the campaign because he threatened to return this country to the Constitutional form of government [1] that recognized the Divinely endowed rights of American citizens to “Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness” !”

      Ron Paul was shut out of the campaign because his views are too radical, and the people didn’t like them.

    • http://omanuel.wordpress.com omanuel

      I prefer limiting our government to these guidelines [1] rather than the UN’s Agenda [2]:

      [1] Thomas Jefferson and the founding fathers,
      The US Declaration of Independence: http://tinyurl.com/5yr32
      The US Constitution: http://tinyurl.com/yqm97q and
      The US Bill of Rights: http://tinyurl.com/dugh9

      [2] The United Nations, “Core Agenda 21″, http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/

  • gemmom

    I agree that everyone should be diligent in finding out what their elected officials have been doing during their past term, and vote for the very best one’s that keep us free from the things that hurt our future. Once again, I disagree with the philosophy that by voting for Mitt Romney you are voting for more of Obama – it is not true. Go to: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=JKOem7wiVIO&vq=large. If you vote for Obama, you are voting for a person who has no regard for our constitution or our constitutional rights, and who bows down to Islamic leaders. If you vote for Mitt Romney, you will be voting for a man who loves this country and its people, and will stand up to anyone who opposes the constitution and our constitutional rights. If you vote for Obama, you will be voting for someone who does not have respect for the Bible or biblical principles. If you vote for Mitt Romney, you will be voting for someone who does love God, the Bible, and biblical principles. Have any of you Googled “The Cloward-Piven Strategy” yet? The downfall of America has been politically engineered by our beloved Democrats. Anyone would have to be totally insane to vote for one this election.

    • http://omanuel.wordpress.com omanuel

      Democrats and Republicans are part of the UN plans to form a one-world government.

      Ron Paul was shut out of the Republican convention to avoid having an election where voters could choose to vote for either a.) or b.):

      a.) A Return to Constitutional government

      _ The Declaration of Independence: http://tinyurl.com/5yr32
      _ The US Constitution: http://tinyurl.com/yqm97q and
      _ The US Bill of Rights: http://tinyurl.com/dugh9

      b.) Continuing to form a one-world government under the
      _ UN’s “Core Agenda 21″: http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/

      Nobody would chooseb.), if they had a choice !

      Oliver K. Manuel
      Former NASA Principal
      Investigator for Apollo
      http://omanuel.wordpress.com/

      PS – Here’s documentation of deception about the powerful force</b at the cores of heavy atoms, like U and Pu that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, respectively, and the core of the Sun that made our elements, birthed the world, sustains life, and endowed us with the inalienable rights THomas Jefferson described in the US Declaration of Independence

      “Neutron repulsion,” The Apeiron Journal 19, 123-150 (2012) http://tinyurl.com/7t5ojrn

    • http://www.facebook.com/kansas.bright Kansas Bright

      Your information is incorrect. Romney does NOT stand for the US Constitution and our natural rights protected by it. Nor does he “love God, the Bible, and biblical principles” as hjis actions below and others not listed here show.

      He supports the Patriot Act, NDAA, UN’s Agenda 21 (where we are not longer to be allowed to own property, our own businesses, cars, etc),
      TARP,
      the Federal Reserve,
      TPP,
      supported Obama’s “economic stimulus” packages,
      supports GMO foods for all EXCEPT him and his (deliberately poisoning the people – yes the facts are in),
      Obama’s auto industry bailout was ‘his’ idea, was the one who developed the plan that Obamacare was later based on, big promoter of universal health care, against a full audit of the Federal Reserve, said that Federal Reserve Chairman Bernanke did a good job during the last financial crisis, Both felt that Fed Reserve Chairman Bernanke deserved to be renominated to a second term, on record saying that the president should not question the “independence” of the Federal Reserve, supports the Federal Reserve,

      believes in big government, has a track record of being big spender while in office, does NOT support immediately balancing the federal budget or paying it down, does NOT want to eliminate the income tax or the IRS, wants to keep personal income tax rates at the exact same levels for the vast majority of Americans, is “open” to the idea of imposing a Value Added Tax on the American people,

      believes that the TSA is doing a great job, believes that the federal government should be able to indefinitely detain American citizens with NO crime committed, believes that American citizens that he SUSPECTS MIGHT being terrorists can be killed by the president without a trial (Murder under our laws), and Romney actually wants to double the number of prisoners held in Guantanamo Bay, supports the practice of “extraordinary rendition”,

      supports the job-killing Free Trade, supports shipping jobs out of this country, supports outsourcing jobs here inside the USA to foreign nations (repairing our roads, bridges, etc),

      is extremely soft on illegal immigration,

      supports a “cap and trade” carbon tax scheme (like the one Obama wants) as long as long as the entire globe goes along with it,

      has a very long record of supporting strict gun control measures,

      has a history of nominating extremely liberal judges,

      has a horrible record when it comes to job creation,

      plans to add “signing statements” to bills when he signs them into law,

      believes that the president has the power to take the country to war without getting the approval of the US Congress,

      plans to continue running up more government debt even though the U.S. government is already 16 Trillion dollars in debt, etc JUST LIKE OBAMA.

      Little of what I listed above shows that a vote for Romney is “voting for a man who loves this country and its people, and will stand up to anyone who opposes the constitution and our constitutional rights”. In fact it is just the opposite. Either you do not understand the US Constitution which can be remidied, or you are a shill for Romney.

      Then he supported or refused to press charges on election fraud committed to make him the republican presidential candidate where people were injured, etc and you say he is “love God, the Bible, and biblical principles”? Your definition of that must conflict with MY definition.

  • http://omanuel.wordpress.com omanuel

    The 2012 Presidential election would be important IF we could vote for either a.) or b.):

    a.) A Return to Constitutional government

    _ The Declaration of Independence: http://tinyurl.com/5yr32
    _ The US Constitution: http://tinyurl.com/yqm97q and
    _ The US Bill of Rights: http://tinyurl.com/dugh9

    b.) Continuing to form a one-world government under the
    UN’s “Core Agenda 21″: http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/

  • gemmom

    I’m sorry, I didn’t type that in right on the youtube video. The correct one is: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=JKOem7wiVIQ&vq=large. This is a wake up call for anyone who thinks Obama’s principles are in the right place.

    • Jeff

      “Climategate” is nonsense. The science is real whether you choose to believe it or not. Frankly, your opinion is about as persuasive as is a grain of sand in holding back a hurricane. There are too many independent researchers who have studied the issue and find substance there to simply dismiss it. Cold winters in some places are not inconsistent with the overall theory.Richard Muller, a UC Berkeley physicist used to be a skeptic and even received grant money from the Koch Brothers. He is no longer a skeptic.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/07/science/earth/extreme-heat-is-covering-more-of-the-earth-a-study-says.html

      http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/04/the-lag-between-temp-and-co2/

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/31/richard-muller-climate-change-good-science

      Since you’re citing Orwell, ask yourself who has done the most to manipulate the language. It was the manipulation of language that Orwell was most concerned about. The Republicans have been masters of it. “Death tax,” “death panels,” etc. The Republicans study the words they use to have impacts they know are patently ridiculous. Newt Gingrich instructed Republicans to always use negative terminology to describe Democrats as weird or treasonous or diabolical. Frank Luntz has made a career of the misuse and abuse of language. Orwell would have had enough material for a dozen more books.

    • Jeff

      Gemmom:

      Wake up call? Is that what you call that video? How about utter crappola? In the words of Lillian Hellman, every word in it is a lie including “and” and “the.” I thought it was an SNL audition or Stephen Colbert in drag. Then I realized this woman is serious – seriously crazy!

  • Steven Goldstein

    As usual you incite your followers with broad generalizations. Protection of the public is the responsibility of the Federal gov’t. That protection doesn’t and shouldn’t pertain only to external military threats but also to the threats born of greed from corporate America [ another variable the Founding Fathers never could have forseen]. Those that put profits before the welfare of the public need to be have their actions curtailed by laws. The American public deserves and is entitled to protection from the multitudes of pharmaceuticles, industrial wastes and pollution generated by the offenders.
    AND the last I heard ours is a living law dependent on our interpretation. That interpretation isn’t written in stone as you would have us believe. How ironic that you refer to King George for he surely would agree with your view that the public should have no protections. I don’t trust that “good will” of our corporations will overide their greed.
    I can’t help but wonder if the delatarious effects of pollutants became obvious in months or years instead of decades if you would still be opposed to the laws that attempt to govern their release.
    HOWEVER, I will agree with you with regards to eavesdropping on the general public. I work for a company that has cameras trained on its employees~~We’re not a defense contractor and don’t handle any “sensitive” information we sell building materials!!! George Orwell, my hat off to you. You were indeed a prophet.

    • Jeff

      Do you ever feel like a reporter bringing news of the outside world to the cave dwellers on these sites? The bubble is nearly impenetrable, but we must assume some actual information can occasionally get through. Perhaps this storm will convince a few people that there may be something to climate change. Unless, of course, you believe the official line on this site that hurricanes are divine retribution for gay marriage.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/01/opinion/kristof-will-climate-get-some-respect-now.html?emc=tnt&tntemail1=y

      • George E

        Jeff,

        When “informed” people try to convince “uninformed” people that a long term, multi-century weather trend can be proven by a single event (hurricane), that’s not being honest with the folks. The problem with global warming theory is that it can’t be proven, so proponents have to believe it on faith. Maybe you’re right to believe it. Maybe you’ll get the proof you believe in over time, but please don’t scoff at those of us who want more proof before agreeing with you.

        • Jeff

          No, one event proves nothing like one home run by Barry Bonds proves nothing. But there are consequences to heating the planet and the oceans. The truth is in the statistics. When once-a-century storms become once-a-decade or better, it’s like Bonds going from 40 home runs in a season to 70. The steroids didn’t hit the home runs but they made a very, very good hitter unbelievable.

          • George E

            Jeff,

            You are free to believe anything you want. Just don’t push your beliefs on me. We do have freedom of religion in this country……..

          • Jeff

            “Jeff, You are free to believe anything you want. Just don’t push your beliefs on me. We do have freedom of religion in this country.”

            You might want to so inform the Christian Right about that one. They not only want everyone to share their religious beliefs; they push extremely partisan positions due to their “religious” beliefs – often in the face of overwhelming scientific evidence. If you want to believe the earth is 6,000 years old and the Flintstones was a documentary, that’s your own business. But when you push social policies based on that belief, that’s when the rest of us can step in and ridicule those beliefs.

          • George E

            As I said. Everyone is entitled to believe what they want. Just don’t push their beliefs on me, regardless who they are.

          • SamFox

            Jeff, I take you you are a disciple of Darwin.

            Do me a favor, in fact bless the whole scientific community. Tell us please where the 1st whatever it was came from to make the Big Bang. Where did the matter that came as a result of the BB come from? Give it a shot.

            My self, I kinda go with cause & effect. Some one said that for every action there is an equal & opposite reaction & that an object in motion will stay in motion unless acted upon by an out side force, stuff like that. So what was the cause of the BB? We know the effect, as for sure there is a solar system & lots of space, comets, suns, planets & so on. So these all came from some compressed matter that just exploded but nothing was causing it?

            Where did DNA come from? It just ‘appeared’?

            Then tell me how a single cell could figure out what to do next. It had no brain or appendages. No conceptual ability, no way to know what he would need in the ‘world’ out side his water or what ever it lived in.

            How did that CELL get there? It just happened because of a set of circumstances that hit just at the right time?

            Again let me ask ya something. Science says the sun shrinks a bit every so often. So… how big would the sun have been 100 mil years ago.

            Here, these people explain it much better.

            http://www.icr.org/article/sun-shrinking/

            If the link doesn’t work, go to the Institute For Creation Research & look for the article, ‘The Sun Is Shrinking’.

            Man, you guys talk about Christians wanting to push their religion on peeps. What do ya think you all do by saying Darwin’s hypothesis just A-OK in school, but are afraid of creationism & won’t allow both to be taught so people can make up their own minds. Who is that doing the pushing of their religion?

            In the face of WHAT overwhelming evidence? There is NO real proof for Darwinism. Not even enough to raise it to the level of theory FROM what it truly is, a basic hypothesis.

            It sure takes a LOT of faith to believe in Darwin…that I do know.

            SamFox

          • Jeff

            Science may never provide answers to such ultimate questions. It can do only what it can do unlike religion, which can’t do anything, but pretends it can do everything. If you want to accept scientific findings and say God set the whole thing in motion, that’s fine. A lot of scientists would even agree with you. But to discard Darwin and all the climatologists because your reading of the Bible conflicts with what they say is just stupid. The Earth is not 6,000 years old and hurricanes are not divine retribution for gay marriage.

            But since you’re asking questions, let’s see. The Bible says Adam and Eve had 2 sons, Cain and Abel. Cain slew Abel and asked “Am I my brother’s keeper?” Was that question definitively answered or was it meant to raise the issue for all time? We’re still grappling with it today. Then, Cain took a wife. From whence did she come? Do you think that just maybe the Bible, for all the wisdom it contains, was never meant to be read literally?

    • George E

      Steven,

      You made a comment about the “greed of corporate America” in your post. This pushed a “button” with me because I often read similar comments, especially from Liberals, who frequently talk about the greedy rich and/or greedy corporations. Like many people, I’ve been trained to accept the notion that the wealthy, and especially successful businessmen are often greedy. This is real and is the dark side of capitalism, and is to be expected, but isn’t necessarily a bad thing for our society. That is, when businessmen are greedy in their own interests, they grow businesses and create jobs where their employees, suppliers, and communities benefit. So, that kind of greed, while not always pretty, does beneficial things for our society.

      Now, I’d like to point out that greed is not isolated to the wealthy. There are greedy people in every income level. There are lots of people, not all, but lots of people, for example, who take hand-outs from the government because they can and they are “free”, not because they need them. Everyone I know has seen this, so I’m pretty sure it’s pretty rampant. This sort of greed does no good for anyone. It unnecessarily taxes the public, and corrupts our culture. So, I think it would be helpful to keep “greed” in perspective.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kansas.bright Kansas Bright

      “AND the last I heard ours is a living law dependent on our interpretation”

      You are incorrect. That is the ‘interpretation” of those trying to destroy our legitimate government – destroy the one that DOES protect us from the greed of the corporations, the dangers of pollution, etc. From those who made the US Constitution, our forefathers and framers:

      “It is often asserted that the world has made a great deal of progress since 1776, that we have had new thoughts and new experiences which have given us a great advance over the people of that day, and that we may therefore very well discard their conclusions for something more modern. But that reasoning cannot be applied to this great charter. If all men are created equal, that is final. If they are endowed with inalienable rights, that is final. If governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, that is final. No advance, no progress can be made beyond these propositions”.
      If anyone wishes to deny their truth or their soundness, the only direction in which he can proceed historically is not forward, but backward toward the time when there was no equality, no rights of the individual, no rule of the people. Those who wish to proceed in that direction cannot lay claim to progress. They are reactionary. Their ideas are not more modern, but more ancient, than those of the Revolutionary fathers.” Calvin Coolidge

      “I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” Thomas Jefferson

      I … place economy among the first and most important of republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of dangers to be feared… And to preserve (our) independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. Thomas Jefferson, from a letter to Governor Plumer, July 21, 1816.

      “And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale.” Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, Monticell

      “History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance.” James Madison

      “It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.” Thomas Jefferson to A. L. C. Destutt de Tracy

      “Our Constitution was not written in the sands to be washed away by each wave of new judges blown in by each successive political wind”. Hugo L Black, Associate Justice, US Supreme Court

      “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government”.” Patrick Henry

      ”We, the people, are the rightful masters of both congress and the courts – not to overthrow the constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution” Abe Lincoln

      “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government – lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.” Patrick Henry

      “God provided that in this land of liberty, our political allegiance shall run not to individuals, that is, to government officials, no matter how great or how small they may be. Under His plan our allegiance and the only allegiance we owe as citizens or denizens of the United States, runs to our inspired Constitution which God himself set up. So runs the oath of office of those who participate in government. A certain loyalty we do owe to the office which a man holds, but even here we owe just by reason of our citizenship, no loyalty to the man himself. In other countries it is to the individual that allegiance runs. This principle of allegiance to the Constitution is basic to our freedom. It is one of the great principles that distinguishes this “land of liberty” from other countries”. J. Reuben Clark

      “If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was and never will be … The People cannot be safe without information. When the press is free, and every man is able to read, all is safe”. Thomas Jefferson {and right now the “press” is owned by a cartel}

      “The Constitution is colorblind, and neither knows nor tolerates classes among citizens.” John Marshall (That does not mean then, as now, there were not corrupt people)

      “A constitution is not the act of a government, but of a people constituting a government; and government without a constitution is power without a right. All power exercised over a nation, must have some beginning. It must be either delegated, or assumed. There are not other sources. All delegated power is trust, and all assumed power is usurpation. Time does not alter the nature and quality of either.” Thomas Paine

      “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
      If Virtue & Knowledge are diffused among the People, they will never be enslav’d. This will be their great Security. John Adams, letter to Thomas Jefferson, July 16, 1814

      Basically the US Constitution assigns the three branches their powers and duties. Because those people who created the states, and the states created the US Constitution and assigned its LIMITED powers and Duties – those who occupy those temporary ositions to carry out thsoe duties are taking powers for themselves our legitimate government does not allow. The states have a republican form of government to counteract and to deal with ALL matters not directly assigned to the federal government by the states through our Constitution.

      Taking more powers for themselves is an attack on the USA by domestic enemies. Currently we have a lot of Domestic Enemies within the federal government, and some within some fo the state governments. We are under attack from within. Hope this helps you to understand our government. Since YOU are the head of the government as are all citizens, it IS up to us what we will allow those temporary workers to get away with; and thus is critcally important for you, and the rest of the American citizens who do NOT understand our legitimate government and that it is NOT a “living” Constitution but is under attack.

      • George E

        Great post! Thank you so much.

        • Jeff

          Did you notice Obama has been endorsed not only by Colin Powell but also by Mayor Bloomberg (an even better businessman than Romney) and by The Economist magazine? Those latter two endorsements might have something to do with the concept of math.

          • George E

            Everyone is entitled to an opinion. I just happen to believe Romney can’t be any worse than Obama for the economy. In my opinion, Obama has approached fixing the economy like a socialist/non-capitalist/statist would, and that’s all wrong, I think. His position regarding production of fossil fuels and funding of “not-ready-for-prime-time” wind/solar companies with taxpayer money alone is enough to totally disgust me.

          • Jeff

            And you’re entitled to yours but the “socialist” label is not only silly – it’s politically loaded and tends to end discussion. Virtually every decision Government makes could be called socialistic in some sense. We don’t leave anything entirely to the private sector and things wouldn’t change that much under Romney. But you’d NEVER call him a socialist no matter what he did as President. So, is the “socialism” in the party label, in the actions taken, or Obama’s “foreignness”? There’s certainly more than a hint of xenophobia on this site.

          • SamFox

            Jeff, when Mitt continues the 0 agenda the way 0 continued the Bush agenda, I sure will call Mitt a socialist. You make a lot of assumptions for us in your head, but your Rules For Radicals tap dancing won’t get ya off the hook.

            Trying to say calling 0 & co what they are, socialist, is silly only proves my point.

            0′s socialism is serious, not silly. You are silly to try to massage that truth in favor of 0 & Cloward & Pivon’s collapse the system agenda. Which is what 0 & many others since at least 1913 have been working toward. That is exactly why we had the ‘Federal’ Reserve sneaked into law by ‘progressive’ Dems in 1913.

            VERY WEAK low life attempt at trying to snake in that we are racist who oppose 0.

            If 0 had half the platform of a true US Patriot statesman like Ron Paul, Sheriff Mack or Judge Napolitano & real US patriots like them, I’d support 0. If 0 were really uniting, cutting spending, had brought the transparency to Congress like he promised, had not add more in 4 yrs. to the nat. debt than GWB in 8, was truly honoring the Constitution rather than ignoring & trashing it…. shall I go on?

            It was your man 0 who said “We are only five days away from the fundamental transformation of the United States of America!” In the light of what 0 has done, I’d say that’s not a good thing.

            You like what 0 said about energy?

            “Under my plan for cap & trade, electricity rates will necessarily skyrocket!” Now we know that he meant it as he attacks coal plants, shuts of the Canada pipe line & keeps oil from being drilled.

            Quit the crap, wake up & get real. Your sneaky snake jive won’t fly. Some of us really do look stuff up.

            SamFox

          • George E
          • SamFox

            Jeff, who cares who endorses 0 or Mitt. They both stink to high heaven.

            Math?

            How about you tell us how much more 0 has added to the national debt in 4 yrs compared to GWB in 8. Another math problem for ya: At the rate the 0 admin. is adding to the nat. debt, how large would it be in 4 more years.

            Math? You mean like the way the unemployment numbers are manipulated? How about the way inflation is figured without adding the rising costs of energy & food. What kind of math is that?

            Deceptive, disingenuous, fuzzy…those come to my mind.

            0 & co are great at math alright. When it comes to manipulating the numbers any way.

            SamFox

          • Jeff

            I think those endorsements mean a lot to some people, particularly in light of all the loose talk of “socialism” on sites like this.

          • SamFox

            Yo Jeff, those endorsements are only meaningful in any + way to those who are supporters of the 0 socialist agenda or the grossly un & under informed.

            Loose talk of socialism? How is it loose talk to say that fed govt central planning replacing a free market entrepreneurial system IS socialism?

            I take it you have no idea what system made this the prosperous nation we once were. It is not capitalism that failed. Capitalism has been systematically dismantled by the fed govt via excess regulation & taxation. Then there is the crony capitalism played by, say Jeff Immelt at GE with Captain 0. And 0′s bailouts for green companies that turn around & fail.

            Govt taking over the auto industry is socialist. Nationalizing industry & health care is NOT Constitutional, nor is all the bailing out of 0 friends on Wall St. & the banks. Few if any of the burroacracies are legal under our Constitution. An expanding police state, indefinite detention, using drones to spy on US citizens, the ‘Patriot’ Act, 0 & co using drones to kill American citizens with out a trial…

            I don’t know where you been, but all that stuff & what I left out, that crap is all socialist, communist, Marxist, Fascist…call it what ya want, it’s BIG BROTHER GOVERNMENT!!

            It sure isn’t free markets at work.

            SamFox

          • http://www.facebook.com/kansas.bright Kansas Bright

            @Jeff & Mort

            The problem is BOTH the Democrtic and Republican partys are corrupt. Both *Obama and **Romney became presidential candidates due to election fraud.

            * The 2008 Democratic Nominating Committee (DNC) document did not include language stating that Obama was qualified to be a candidate. The 2008 Republican Nominating Committee (RNC) document did, as is normal. This shows that the DNC knew that Obama was not qualified, or why change the form? Then add ACORN, New Black Panthers actions at the elections booths, vote flipping, dead voting, a dog voting restaurant voting, “The Democratic presidential primary petitions that put then-candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton on the 2008 primary ballot in Indiana are the focus of a criminal investigation. There are allegations that numerous signatures and names on the petitions were forged, so many in fact, that questions have been raised as to whether now-President Obama even qualified with enough legal signatures to get on the primary ballot in the first place”, etc…

            ** 2012 Election Rigged Vote Fraud – Primary/Caucus/Maine, fraudulent forms in 11 FL counties, a criminal election fraud complaint has now reportedly been filed with law enforcement in the state of Florida against a Republican firm – owned by a paid Mitt Romney consultant, robo calls saying that all candidates except Romney dropped out to still mark Romney on the ballot… Dead voters, vote flipping, etc

            It is past time to dump both the Dem and Repub partys and do something new – No party at all. Candidates will have to run on their own merit, background, on the issues, etc.

            Obama is a socialist, let me prove it. Some history for you from our not so distant past. This information is from the Nuremberg Trials:

            What happened in Germany in the past was not a “fast” takeover – the destruction of its legitimate government was done slowly over a decade, and quite possibly 2 or more decades.

            The chief instrument of keeping cohesion in plan and action was the National Socialist German Workers Party… First they were to infiltrate the legitimate government and from within bring about “change”… So began the first part of the “plan” which was to subvert the Weimar Republic.

            Some of their declared purposes sounded good to many good citizens, such as: “profit-sharing in the great industries,”… {Take from the 1% and share with all} “raising the standard of health.” The Party said that a “strong centralized government” was needed. It demanded the creation of a strong central power with unconditional authority…

            The plans were for the overthrow of, and then the “capture” of the legitimate central government so they could change it to what they wanted. {Happening here – how much of our Constitution, our legitimate government is now being followed? Is Obama following the blueprint for the Executive branch? Did Bush or Clinton follow it?}

            A separate government was set up within the legitimate government within the Party to exercise outside the law every sanction that any legitimate state could exercise and many that it could not {Obama’s “Czars”, TSA, DHS}.

            The Party had its own secret police, its security units, its intelligence and espionage division, its raiding forces, and its youth forces {DHS, TSA, look up “Obama youth”, etc on youtube}.

            It also established administrative mechanisms over time {Patriot Act, NDAA, warrantless searches, warrantless spying, TSA, numerous Executive Orders, etc} to identify those who supported the legitimate government.

            They “encouraged” the populace to inform on their own neighbors, friends, family {“See Something, Say Something”, and other videos the DHS put out here in America}.

            “Uncontrolled search and seizure is one of the first and most effective weapons in the arsenal of every arbitrary government. Among deprivations of rights, none is so effective in cowing a population, crushing the spirit of the individual and putting terror in every heart.” Justice Robert Jackson, Chief U.S. Prosecutor at the Nuremberg Trials

            They created a “Party” police system, which became the pattern and the instrument of the police state, which was the first goal in their plan. {DHS and TSA – starting to arrange themselves throughout our nation to control our every move and where we can go: at airports, bus stations, train stations, even on our own roads}

            A presidential decree was created suspending the extensive guarantees of individual liberty contained in the constitution of the Weimar Republic…

            Those decree’s were restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion – including freedom of the press, On the right of peaceful assembly, the right of association,
            And violations of the privacy: postal, telegraphic, and telephonic communications;
            And no need for warrants for house-searches,
            Orders for, confiscations as well as restrictions on property, etc all taken away under the guise of “keeping the people safe”.
            {much like what is happening within the USA today, as all of the “restrictions” on our freedoms are “for our own safety”}
            Many were arrested as “belligerents” – no real crime committed, just disagreeing with the destruction of their legitimate government.

            Secret arrest and indefinite detention; without charges, without evidence, without hearing, without counsel, and no court could issue an injunction, or writ of habeas corpus, or certiorari. The German people were in the hands of the police, the police were in the hands of the Nazi Party, and the Party was in the hands of a ring of evil men who wanted to rule the world.
            {NDAA, Patriot Act, various executive orders, warrantless arrests, New World Order, etc}

            The concept then was to control the world; the concept now is to make a one-world “government”. What is the difference?

            But don’t worry, Romney, if elected, will continue on ith these polices and add to them; exactly like Obama continued Bush Jr. Bush jr continued Clinton’s. Clinton continued Bush sr. etc.

            Now you can see that not only is Obama a socialist, he is the worse kind. This is an attack by domestic enemies upon our legitimate government. Remember that if you don’t like a con man, then he cannot con you. Romney = Obama = No Free America.

          • Jeff

            Sounds like a Billy Joel song. Hits some hot button “issues” but shows no understanding of what’s real and what’s nonsense. ACORN? You think saying the name means something? And the New Black Panthers – 3 idiots in costume? Only on Fox News do those references mean ANYTHING. In the real world, they’re as real as the War on Christmas.

          • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

            They only mean anything to people who have bothered to look into them and know what it represents.

            To the rest, yeah, it is just meaningless stuff to toss around. Nothing to see here, move along little sheep…

            – Smoov

  • http://omanuel.wordpress.com omanuel

    I agree, Kansas.

    The root of the problem is UN-directed, self-centered geo-centrism, Kansas

    Purposeful ignorance of the Sun’s pulsar core [1] that has a sphere of influence extending out ~ 120 AU beyond the Earth [2].

    That is why natural events, like global climate change and spikes in the cosmic-ray produced C-14, are reported to be mysteries.

    http://joannenova.com.au/2010/01/finally-the-new-revised-and-edited-climategate-timeline/

    http://www.nature.com/news/ancient-text-gives-clue-to-mysterious-radiation-spike-1.10898

    Here’s the rest of the story: https://omanuel.wordpress.com/about/#comment-1659

    -Oliver K. Manuel
    Former NASA Principal
    Investigator for Apollo

    References:

    [1] Oliver K. Manuel, “Neutron repulsion,” The Apeiron Journal 19, 123-150 (2012) http://tinyurl.com/7t5ojrn

    https://omanuel.wordpress.com/about/#comment-1659

    [2] Ron Cowan, “Voyager’s long goodbye – NASA probes find surprises at the edge of the Solar System,” Nature 489, 20-21 (6 Sept 2012)

    http://www.nature.com/news/voyager-s-long-goodbye-1.11348

  • Mort

    FOR ONE THING THE TEA PARTY WAS STARTED IN ENGLAND BY THE REPUB.PARTY SO PEOPLE WON’T THINK OF THEM [REPUBS] ASTHE LIARS THAT THEY ARE..NEW FACES HELP. SECOND.WE DON’T WANT A 2PARTY SYSTEM LETS JUST HAVE ONE DICTATORSHIP WE HAD THAT UNDER BUCH CARL ROVE HAD YOUR REPUBS DEREGULATE WALL ST BANKING. MORTGAGES AND OTHERS . DO YOU REMBER ENRON THEY PUT US IN THE POSITION WE ARE IN TODAY SO OBAMA CLEANED IT UP THE COUNTRY IS ON THE RIGHT COURSE YOU HEAR FROM REPUBS ARE WE BETTER OFF THAN 4 YRS AGO IF THAT ANT A STUPID QUESTION DON’T MESS WITH MEDICARE MEDICADE THE LIE IT WILL COST MORE ,PEOPLE WILL LOSE JOBS THE PORTION THAT IS IN EFFECT HAS SAVED A BILLION AND A HALFDOLLARS.NO JOBS LOST IF ANYTHING IT HAS CREATED JOBS..NO TAX ON THE 2% REAGEN AND CLINTON DID IT THE COUNTRY HAD MONEY, BUCH C UT TAXES AND STARTED 2 WARS THE SURPLUS CLINTON LEFT WAS GONE BEFOR THE IRAQ WAR OBAMA PUT US IN A 15 TRILLION DEBT.THATS WHAT COMES OUT OF MOUTHS OF OUT AND OUT THIEFS[EPUBS] THEY WANT THE GOVT OUT SO THEY CAN DO THE SAME THING AGAIN ITS NOT CONGRESS THAS CREATING THE PROBLEMS..ITS YOUR REPUB PARTY.IN SPITE OF THOSE THIEFS THE COUNTRY IS GOING FORWARD. REPUBS GET IN KISS YOUR COUNTRY GOOD BYE

    • Jeff

      I endorse the sentiment.

  • Rennie

    I’m still waiting to hear Romney and Ryan promise to repeal all the executive orders, the NDAA, TSA, Patriot Acts, invasion of privacy, assumption citizens are guilty unless proven innocent, internet freedom, or that the only, I said ONLY difference between Oyster Creek and Fukushima is October happened to be refueling month, otherwise all the wind and surge damage to the 50 mile radius downwind wouldn’t matter. If I heard Romney promise to shut down the nuclear plants which only supply 8.26% or our power and have produced waste for the last 60 years no one has yet figured out to dispose of safely, and promise to stop building more as Obama has funded, I would support him. If I heard R&R defend teh Tea Party, Tenthers, Oathkeepers, or just anyone who believes in the US Bill of Rights, Otherwise screw him I’m voting Johnson.

    • George E

      Rennie,

      That’s fine. However, please keep this in mind. We’re going to get either Obama or Romney as our next President. Johnson has no chance of winning this election. I suggest that If it really makes no difference to you whether Obama or Romney gets elected, please do whatever you want. But if you do care, please vote for the candidate which you dislike the least, and try to get the candidate of your choice elected next time. Let’s try to get the best of our bad options if we can.

      • AWKingsley

        In response to George E: However, It is only when Libertarians start making a better showing in the polls that politicians will have to start listening and catering to their demands. Every vote for the candidate who does not win is a vote that was thrown away according to your assessment, including “ALL” Republican votes when Republicans lose an election, so why not vote your conscience instead of voting for the lesser of 2 evils? Voting for the lesser of 2 evils is still voting for evil. A vote for the Libertarian Party will begin the rehabilitation of our freedom and economic landscapes, so why not begin today to make those changes instead of putting that decision off until we have no country left? It took men of courage who laid their lives on the line to gain America’s freedom in the first place. Surely men and women with any courage at all can be expected to do the one little thing that insures our freedom and economic security by putting their votes on the line by voting for the Libertarian Party – Gary Johnson.

        • George E

          Do whatever makes you happiest. I’m probably a little sensitive to this issue because I voted for Ross Perot a few years ago because I thought he had a better understanding of the economy than George Bush. What I ended up with was Bill Clinton. All things considered, I would have much rather had George Bush. I learned my lesson and will never make that mistake again.

          If I had my way, the Libertarians and other 3rd parties would have done everything they’ve done to promote their cause, but then negotiated with both political parties to get the best platform they could get that furthered the Libertarian cause by throwing their support to one or the other candidates rather than run their own candidate. I believe they would have done more good for themselves doing that than running a candidate for President who has no chance of winning at this time. But then that’s just my opinion.

          • Jeff

            Yes, the relative peace and prosperity of the Clinton years were truly awful. We wasted 8 years during which we could have occupied the entire Middle East. But what’s peace and prosperity in comparison with . . . . . . Monica. For 8 long years we waited for a blow job so we could impeach W, but he was too busy destroying our economy and our credibility abroad.

          • George E

            Such a weird sense of humor…………..

          • Jeff

            I find your post humorous. After enduring the 8 year disaster of W, you choose to talk about how bad Clinton was?

          • George E

            I don’t hate Clinton. He just impresses me as a politician thru-and-thru without a lot of personal character. He did have the good sense to hire Dick Morris and moved his policies to the center after taking a “whipping” at the polls, something our current President doesn’t seem to understand or be willing to do. Having said that, I believe Clinton is a true liberal with socialist leanings at heart, and would have really screwed things up good if allowed to follow his instincts.

          • Jeff

            Just keep believing that. Vote for every right wing moron that comes along and wants to lower his own taxes, not giving a damn for the country. Keep thinking that all pro-environment policies are wrong because they might cost some money. Always look backward, not forward, for solutions. Anything pre-FDR will do, right?

          • George E

            Jeff,

            Do you really think our politicians, especially Democrats, know anything about balancing a budget? Most of them have never run a company or balanced a budget. Most started out as lawyers and became politicians. It doesn’t matter how much they take from us in taxes, they will never balance the budget unless we insist they do. Go ahead and give them more of your hard earned money and watch them squander it away like they are doing now. If that makes you feel good, then please be my guest. Write them out a big check and send it in. Just don’t count on me to do the same.

            I’m for responsible environmental laws and regulations, like most folks, but this BS that Obama has been engaged in where he’s trying to shut down our fossil fuels industry is awful. We could have many more jobs if he and the EPA would step back. But NO, they are determined to kill these industries regardless how weak our economy is. This just proves to me that he’s either incompetent, uncaring, or tyrannical or some combination of all of these characteristics. Otherwise, I don’t think he would push for this, especially right now. If that’s what you mean by “moving forward”, count me out. Go ahead and vote for your “superior intelligent” liberal/socialist politicians. Maybe one day you’ll see the error of that kind of thinking, especially if you get what you evidently want.

          • Jeff

            I think that despite the rhetoric, Republicans are much worse on fiscal matters than Democrats. Compare the record over the past 50 years and you’ll see that I’m right. The biggest budget busters? Reagan and W. Our only MBA president so far? W. Apparently, you want W Redux.

            I think running a company is poor preparation for the Presidency. A company has a built-in goal – profit. The President is not looking to turn a profit. It’s easy to write a budget that punishes all the people who didn’t vote for you like Paul Ryan did. Cut taxes for your supporters and cut the Hell out of programs for the poor who tend not to vote Republican. Getting people who aren’t soulless Bastards like Ryan to vote for it might be a little harder.

            How does buying companies, closing factories, and outsourcing jobs prepare Romney to stand up to the far right in his party like Norquist and Limbaugh? How will it equip him to stand up to the military when they want to invade somewhere? He is vulnerable on his right flank to any charge he’s not strong enough on defense (unlike, say, Eisenhower or even McCain) and has NEVER shown any political courage. If the Generals say “bomb,” Mitt will salute and give the order.

            If Romney gets elected, buy all the “defense” stocks you can. It’ll be W and Halliburton all over again.

          • George E

            Jeff,

            Think what you want. I disagree with you and think you are mis-guided in your assessment. I don’t think Republicans have done a good job of balancing the budget. I just think Democrats are especially bad at it because they don’t seem to even try to keep government spending down, unless it comes to cutting defense. However, they’re all pretty bad at it, so we can’t depend on any politician to cut spending without a lot of pressure from the voting public.

          • Jeff

            That’s the point. It’s easy to say “cut spending.” It’s like saying Congress has a 10% approval rating. Then 90% of Congressmen get re-elected. What exactly do you want to cut? I’m sure it’s easy for you to come up with a list because you’re not running for office. But getting a consensus on what to cut is a bit tougher. I’m sure you’ve seen this before, but take a look at the true source of the deficit. It’s not PBS, foreign aid, or Planned Parenthood. And it’s not Obama’s stimulus.

            http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/obama-romney-deficit-debt-chart.php

            So, Romney wants to cut taxes even more, increase defense spending, and balance it by cutting unspecified loopholes and deductions (all of which have constituencies), Big Bird, and Planned Parenthood. It’s not that Romney is bad at math. He thinks you are, and he’s a liar.

            George, I don’t expect to change your mind. You’re a dyed-in-the-wool right-winger and you’ll vote for Romney come Hell or high water. Just don’t fool yourself about why.

          • George E

            Jeff,

            I’m starting to get tired of hearing liberals say Romney is a liar. I don’t think he’s a saint, but he stands about a mile higher than Obama, in my opinion. Speaking of lying politicians, I think you’re going to be really embarrassed when the truth finally comes out about the Benghazi attack. Obama and his administration have done some pretty terrible things and they are covering it up with the help of the MSM. Back to Romney’s lies. The last allegation I heard about this had to do with Romney saying Chrysler was going to shut down the Jeep factory in this country and open one in China. I heard what he said, and he didn’t say that. He did say that a Jeep plant would be opened in China and they (obviously) would build Jeeps there, but he didn’t say that the US factory would be shut down. He wouldn’t know that even if the company did plan to shut it down because they hadn’t announced it yet. Logic tells me that if Chrysler builds Jeeps in China that might/probably would mean they would build fewer Jeeps in the US factory, but the actual number is probably still unknown. Nevertheless, this is a lot to do about nothing in my opinion. It’s just something the Dems have fabricated so they can call Romney a liar. It’s getting old……………..

            If you’re proud of Obama’s fiscal record, I can’t understand why. His greatest accomplishment during his first term of office was to double the US federal debt for little gain, other than bigger government, to show for it. His other big “accomplishment” was to enact a new national healthcare program (Obamacare) which most folks don’t want, and won’t be able to afford when all costs are totaled up. It’s such a great program that many of his buddies have requested, and been granted, waivers so they don’t have to participate, but the rest of us hardworking middle-income people will have to pay the price. Oh, and let’s not forget that he has done everything he could to shut down our fossil fuels industries while wasting millions of our tax dollars on unsustainable wind and solar manufacturing companies. Great job. I really look forward to 4 more years of these “good times”.

          • Jeff

            I guess you missed his ads because they did say that. But Romney’s dissembling started way before the Jeep ads. Remember when he said Obama made the economy worse? Then when he said he didn’t say that? Romney is apparently unaware of the invention of video tape. He has taken every possible position on every possible issue. . . this week!

            You’re tired of Romney being called a lying, Etch-A-Sketch candidate? Tell him to stop acting like one. I get a little tired of reading the idiotic names Obama is called, the ridiculous charges, and the moronic comparisons to Hitler.

          • SamFox

            Jeff is right on this one!

            In a net search, look up an article by copying & pasting the following terms in the search box–

            NewsWithViews Kelleigh Nelson The Phony Right Wing, Mitt Romney

            Then, at YouTube, look up

            Snakes On A Campaign, Mitt Romney by the Southern Avenger

            Then look for

            Romney Exposed, An Open Letter About Mitt Romney

            There is a LOT more on how Mitt has lied his way across the political landscape, but this is enough to get ya started. He is every bit the lying snake that 0bama is.

            Don’t ya get it folks? The R & D ‘parties’ have been elected & kicked out & this has been repeated for decades.

            SO WHY HAS NOTHING MUCH CHANGED????? Please wake up!!

            I voted for Gary Johnson on my early ballot. I am tired of the ‘two party’ trap!

            SamFox

          • http://www.facebook.com/kansas.bright Kansas Bright

            Jeff, some information for you:

            The Democrat Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.

            January 3rd, 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress.

            January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee. The economic meltdown 15 months later was in Banking and Financial Services.

            Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 – the Democrat Party.

            Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 & 2009 as well as 2010 & 2011.

            In that first year, they had to contend with G. Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when he somewhat got tough on spending increases. (That does not mean he is not a War Criminal, Murderer, and Committed Treason which Obama pardoned him for).

            2009 – Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office.
            Plus at that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budgets.

            Barack Obama was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete 2009.

            If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Obama, who voted for those budgets.

            Hope this helps you to understand how our government works. Though with all of the illegal activity by all branches of the federal government I am not surprised you are confused.

          • Jeff

            So any Democrat in office anywhere is to blame whenever the economy goes bad? Obama is responsible despite the Republican House, but Bush is not responsible because he had a compliant Congress for only 6 of his 8 years? Maybe you could join Romney in the cast of Cirque de Soleil.

          • http://www.facebook.com/kansas.bright Kansas Bright

            Actually Obama had a Democrtic congres for ~ two years.
            Bush is scum – but recognizing where legislation comes from (except the illegal executive legislation – EO’s) is important. I have been fighting to have Bush arrested since he was assigned the office by the courts. Clinton and Obama also. All 4 (both Bush’s) for Election Fraud, Treason, War Crimes, and Murder (under our laws they all ‘meet the requirements’).

            Both the Republican and the Democratic parties are CORRUPT. Both practice Election Fraud, both lie to us and ignore the votes “We the people” have for candidates in order to put in the person they are told to put up as a “candidate” for us.

            When you, and others start to realize that it does not matter if it is a Dem or a Repub put into office, they are owned by other then the people they take the legally binding Oath to represent. That it is time to put away the bad corrupt party system – and have free candidates only. Yep, no party.

            Then they will have to stand and run on the merits of their policies, their background, etc instead of us being spoonfed the goop they now feed us.

            We also need to arrest for prosecution the head of the FCC and about 4 immediate layers below. Why, because they are the ones who were supposed to stop monopolies and cartels from taking over our information systems. Uninformed or lied to voters cannot make decent decisions.

            “It is the purpose of the First Amendment to preserve an uninhibited marketplace of ideas in which truth will ultimately prevail, rather than to countenance monopolization of that market, whether it be by the Government itself or a private licensee. It is the right of the public to receive suitable access to social, political, esthetic, moral, and other ideas and experiences which is crucial here. That right may NOT constitutionally be abridged either by Congress or by the FCC.”. Supreme Court, Red Lion v. FCC in 1969. (emphasis mine)

          • http://www.facebook.com/kansas.bright Kansas Bright

            Actually Neither Romney or Obama is concerned with balancing the budget. Both support and endorse big government – do NOT listen to their words, research their actions. They are so alike with such minute differences that they are two sides of the same car traveling down the road to destroy the USA.

            Both support Agenda 21 which takes away OUR right to own property, businesses, cars, etc and takes the ones we alreay own away from us.
            Both support shipping jobs out of the country.
            They both have a track record of being big spenders while in office.
            Neither candidate supports immediately balancing the federal budget or paying it down.
            They both support outsourcing jobs here inside the USA to foreign nations.
            They both have a horrible record when it comes to job creation.
            Both candidates are extremely soft on illegal immigration.
            Both candidates plan to continue running up more government debt even though the U.S. government is already 16 Trillion dollars in debt.
            Both want to persecute people who need medical cannabis and who use it legally according to state laws.
            Both support the FDA which bans natural cures in favor of the pharmaceutical companies that profit from our illnesses.
            Both of them support attacking Iran.
            Both support TPP, which is a nightmare.
            Both support NDAA and the Patriot Act.
            Romney supported/supports Obama’s “economic stimulus” packages.
            Romney says that Obama’s auto industry bailout was ‘his’ idea.
            Romney was the one who developed the plan that Obamacare was later based on.
            Both been big promoters of universal health care.
            Both candidates are against a full audit of the Federal Reserve.
            Both have said that Federal Reserve Chairman Bernanke did a good job during the last financial crisis.
            Both felt that Fed Reserve Chairman Bernanke deserved to be renominated to a second term.
            Obama and Romney – both are on record saying that the president should not question the “independence” of the Federal Reserve.
            Both fully support the Federal Reserve.
            Both candidates have a very long record of supporting strict gun control measures.
            Both support TARP.
            Neither candidate wants to eliminate the income tax or the IRS.
            They both want to keep personal income tax rates at the exact same levels for the vast majority of Americans.
            Both are “open” to the idea of imposing a Value Added Tax on the American people.
            Both believe that the TSA is doing a great job.
            Both candidates believe that the federal government should be able to indefinitely detain American citizens.
            Both candidates believe that American citizens that they SUSPECT MIGHT being terrorists can be killed by the president without a trial.
            Obama has not closed Guantanamo Bay like he promised to do, and Romney actually wants to double the number of prisoners held there.
            Both candidates support the practice of “extraordinary rendition”.
            They both support the job-killing Free Trade.
            Romney has said that he will support a “cap and trade” carbon tax scheme (like the one Barack Obama wants) as long as long as the entire globe goes along with it.
            Both candidates have a history of nominating extremely liberal judges.
            They both have a horrible record when it comes to job creation.
            Like Obama, Romney also plans to add “signing statements” to bills when he signs them into law.
            Both believe that the president has the power to take the country to war without getting the approval of the US Congress.
            Both support the use of drone strikes against innocent Muslim civilians.
            Both support the Western backed terrorists in Syria against the elected President Assad. (The same terrorist blamed for 9/11. Plus now we know that Obama has been using our money to fund and arm the very group(s) we were told had a part in 9/11.)

            Neither of them support the Constitution of the United States, our legitimate government, nor the American people. Look at their ACTIONS, not what their speechwriters write for them to say to us to get elected.

      • http://www.facebook.com/kansas.bright Kansas Bright

        George, the only way we will get Obama or Romney this time is if unaware people keep voting for them, the “lesser of two evils” or “vote the party line”. As long as people like you buy in to the idea that “We have to vote for the dem or repub candidate… you are still being herded down the narrow lane of no escape.

        Yes, there is election fraud – WRITE or CALL your representatives and DEMAND prosecutions – since there is many witnesses and videos showing it happening – open and shut case. But prosecutions will ONLY happen if they are hounded by you.

        Vote for a third party, take a pic of your vote as proof. There are places that will compare the actual proven votes to the foreign counted and likely election fraud count. If that count is off by proven votes by even 1 – it shows that there was inaccuracy in the count.

        Then we have a case. Best if you had a write in and copied notorized it – but a picture of your actual ballet and the form you had that shows where your “mark” was made corresponds to candidate X name. Please.

        • George E

          Kansas,

          I don’t argue with your ideals, only with your strategies. If the goal is to build a new political party, then that’s one thing, but if it’s to build a new political philosophy, that’s another. In the first case, it matters that you run candidates with your party label on each and every ballot you can get on, and differentiating your philosophies and candidates from all others. In the latter case, it doesn’t. It only matters that you find ways to make your political ideals acceptable, and indeed preferable, to a majority of the public. I like the way the Tea Party has gone about it. They expressed philosophies that main stream conservative Americans (of all political parties) can agree with and support. Then they looked to both political parties for endorsement of their ideals. As it turned out, only some of the Republicans endorsed these ideals, so naturally the Tea Party endorsed Republican candidates who spoke out in favor of Tea Party ideals. I think other political movements might learn something from this approach. It’s a fairly quick way of aligning with people on ideals rather than party labels, and just because you align with some politicians of another party doesn’t mean you agree with everything that party or all of its politicians stand for or have done in the past. It only helps to get your message out in the public arena to help it become more acceptable to the public over time. In the final analysis, the battle will be won or lost by how many Americans you win over to your ideals, not by how many politicians run for office with your party’s label. We have to change the culture, and that’s the battle we’re losing……………badly……………..to the socialists/progressives. Time is not on our side given the trend. We must find ways of joining forces to defeat this threat, or all will be lost……………soon. It may be too late already.

  • NOWANDTHEN

    Makes me wonder who the hell is Romney running against,O-BOMB-a,or Bill Clinton?I Hope that Romney cleans both their clocks!!!VOTE ”ROMNEY/RYAN 2012!!!We can’t afford another 4 years of an unconstitutional President ,thats destroying our Nation!!,lets all vote that creap out of office,right along with all of his Friends !!!!

    • Jeff

      Hey Creep:

      In your dreams!

  • NOWANDTHEN

    Dreams have been known to become real!!!And by the way,what is the reason for ”name calling?”Oh,never mind,I see your a Democrat!!!!!!

  • STRIGHTOTHEPOINT!!!!!!

    Jeff-On some parts I Agree,Others,I don’t,sure we]ve been screwed by both parties,at times,however right now there are only two canidates that are able to win,Obama, or ROMNEY….Take your choice….by voting a third party this will only aid Obama,if you don’t like oboma don’t vote for a third party.if you like oboma vote for him.!! 4 years of screw=ups is enough for me If you want to be A screw-up go ahead and vote for Obama !!!!

  • tALLDARKANDHASOME!!!!!!

    I’m voting Romney/Ryan!!!!!

  • Bert Cundle Sr.

    I’m NOT Playing Politics… Never has the Victor been Anointed beacuse of “one” Vote ( Mine) Therefore I won’t feel like a Looser — If what I vote For Looses. I Can’t be blamed for the winner when they Crash! — Of all the Forign Languages alowed in the Ballots —– My Vote will be the loudest if 80% of the U.S. Citizens Boycotted!

    • Jeff

      OK Bert, I hear that Calvin Coolidge is quite a guy. Hope he wins.

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