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A Righteous Kill

October 4, 2011 by  

A Righteous Kill

If you’re trying to figure out why President Barack Obama has lately appeared to be over-inflating that birdcage he calls a chest, U.S. aerial drones executed wanted terrorist and expatriate American Anwar al-Awlaki, along with his similarly American-by-birth sidekick, Samir Khan, last week. Therefore, Obama gets to walk around in his John Wayne shoes for a bit.

Let me be clear: I oppose virtually everything Obama planned to do, has done and/or will do during his four years in the White House. But the executions of al-Awlaki and Khan are not on the list. I know my kill-’em-where-you-find-’em attitude gets me sideways with some folks, including Bob Livingston and Congressman Ron Paul.

We shouldn’t be in the business of whacking people like we were in Tony Soprano’s gang and our victims were wearing wires in the back room at Satriale’s. But occasionally, the role America should play and the role America must play are not the same role.

Sure, it would be easier to simply let these animals continue spouting off about jihad in Jihadi-stan (Yemen, in this case). Consider it: Jihadi-stan sucks. It’s dirty, the food is terrible and the women are all dressed like beekeepers. You can’t tell if that’s hot Fatima or that hook-nosed Ayesha walking down the (dirt) street; and even if you could, walking around dressed like beekeepers in 110 degree heat all day makes them both smell like hamsters.

The problem is that al-Awlaki was not play-acting at terrorism. Al-Awlaki exhorted his followers to kill what he calls “infidels” and you call “the Nelsons from two houses down.” And punching his ticket hardly lowers the intellectual temperature in the human room. It’s not as if, given enough time, he was going to abandon his holy war against the infidel crusaders and concentrate on that cure for cancer he dreamed about as a junior jihadist.

For those of you who object to Obama trying on his big-boy shoes after al-Awlaki’s execution, that’s an unfortunate door-prize you keep when you win a Presidential election. The military scores the touchdown, and the President gets to spike the ball. George W. Bush did it, George H.W. Bush did it, Ronald Reagan did it and even Bill Clinton did it — although Monica Lewinsky helped. Jimmy Carter never did it; but, as we found out later, he was rooting for the other team.

I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with sticking Islamofascists to a bulletin board like human thumbtacks — no matter which country they call home. Does it violate Yemeni sovereignty? Possibly, but ours is more important. I will concede that that sounds jingoistic; but from time to time, it’s perfectly reasonable to remember that the United States is better. They want to kill us because we live by ideals which are anathematic to them: free elections (unless ACORN is involved), cold beer and letting women drive (hey, maybe… nope — my mom will probably read this). And they have proven that — given time and some luck — they can do it. We, in turn, kill them because they’re planning to kill us.

However, what Obama failed to learn and his supporters will never acknowledge: If you want to dine on the spoils of war, you must use the utensils of death. Suddenly, the same people who spent the eight years of the Bush Administration decrying the idea of American troops even mildly inconveniencing Islamofascists have become the most hawkish people since Gen. Douglas MacArthur asked for permission to nuke China. The same doves who wanted a public trial for Khalid Sheikh Mohammed are now channeling their inner Rambo over the executions of al-Awlaki and Khan. Barack Obama the candidate deplored secretive actions against Islamofascists. Barack Obama the President demands credit and respect for ordering them. Even some of their fellow travelers are compelled to recognize such blatant hypocrisy. On Sunday’s broadcast of the no-longer-compelling Meet the Press, Democratic Party sock puppet E.J. Dionne Jr. wandered off-script: “You’ve got to be honest and say what would liberals say if George Bush had done this?”

I do believe we already know the answer to that one.

–Ben Crystal

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • ron

    So from one bird chest to another right Bill. If Obama told a republican they had great smiles they would shoot themselves in the face to prove him wrong. Great americans you are Billy and the jets.

    • Brad

      ron,

      What planet are you from? You would allow our government free reign to do anything it wanted without fear of due process. They have commited treason against our country by supporting and providing aid to our enemies, but as US citizens were they tried by a military/civilian tribunal; NO. What gives this president the right to assasinate US citizens; if this was a republican president, you would have been up in arms against him/her, calling for impeachment proceedings. My opinion, I’m glad they’re gone but was it the right way to do it, questions will always linger.

      • Vagabond

        brad the SLIMEBALL renounced and forfeited his citisenship the moment he took up arms against the united States. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE PEOPLE,

        • Brad

          Vagabond,

          I totaly agree but, were they tried for treason, acts against the US in general, did they renounce their citizenship or did the US take their citizenship?

          • FreedomFighter

            The right thing done the wrong way, to confuse. Tis a slippery slope opening the way to kill more Americans.

            Laus Deo
            Semper Fi

          • Patty

            Ditto Freedom Fighter.

          • Patty

            Agreed Freedom Fighter.

        • Kimberly

          To Vagabond and others: The Constitution has specific laws for the trying of a person for “treason”. Even those who take up arms against the US are allowed due process. Abraham Lincoln himself committed treason when he sent in troops to Virginia to fire on American citizens and started a war where over 625,000 people died. The blood was on his hands, and he suffered the consequences of his actions, because the federal government wasn’t going to impeach him and try him for treason. Even the Bible states under God’s Law where the Founding Fathers took their example, “do not oppress the stranger that is in thy land.” The other point is that Congress has not formally declared war on Islam or any country where Islam is practiced, therefore, al-Awlaki cannot be considered a war combatant or as committing an act of war. But even in times of war, men/women were given trials. Now that does not mean I am sympathetic toward the believes of Islam or their practices, however, we MUST be “fair and just” and be an example to the rest of the world that we can be “fair and just”. There’s good reason why Thomas Jefferson had the Treaty of Tripoli drawn up.

          • Betty Jo

            I agree with Ron Paul on this one.He did not have a trial. What does the evidence show. Some of it is political propaganda to build Obama up to show that he is doing something about terrorists.

          • Forrest Gump

            Tell it to the 6k+ people who died in the twin towers ten years ago. Islam has declared war on us. That’s what Jihad means, you moron. As Ben said, we kill them because they are planning to kill us.
            Don’t tell me that if some guy had plans in his basement to kill your family and you knew about these plans and also had a bead on him and could easily take him out, ending your cause for fear, that you would instead try to take him into custody and take him to trial. You know as well as we all do that these little rag-head SOBs glory in the chance to go to court so they can spout more jihadist rhetoric and possibly become living martyrs for their cause.
            The only way to seriously deter their kind of thinking is by harsh example. (i.e.: They plan the deaths of others and receive death as a consequence.) Coincidentally, all crimes committed should be dealt with swiftly and harshly so as to deter others from considering crime as a viable option. Read the book Starship Troopers for a clue on where our society is going if it survives the coming economic troubles and Obama’s presidency and fails to deal more effectively with criminal acts.
            Due process? I think AL-Ewok got his due process…but even if you don’t think so, you can’t deny that he got what was due to him.

          • Bruce

            Kimlerly, Saddly we have not followed the Constitution in over 150 years so your post as well thought out as it is is 100% worthless.

            PLEASE ` All of you will you please wake up, read the 14th Amendment and how it came to be, do your Research aka Due Diligance and you will have no other way of looking at this nation again.
            All of the problems we face today all stem from the 14th Amendment. So no matter what goes on, or who you vote for it makes no differance at all.
            Therefor we must “”REPEAL the 14th Amendment”" then all said Amendments after that will fall on their own, and we all will gain our “FREEDOMS” back, and the NWO will fold like a cheep table from Wall Mart.

            If you all wish to keep playing in the “Political Theater” thats been playing out for the last 150 years — then events such as this will keep happeneing over and over, until its “YOU” that’s the TARGET.

            So will you ALL wake up already.

          • Kimberly

            @Forrest Gump (and as his name implies, “stupid is as stupid does”.) I’m glad you’re not in a government office and I hope you don’t vote, because that would be dangerous. We have the rule of law for a reason, and if you don’t want to follow the rule of law, that makes you an “anarchist”. And by you’re thinking, it sounds like you are perfectly happy with the “imposter in chief dictator” who’s ordering unfettered assassinations.

            We’ve been doing things the “stupid way” for over 100 years because our leaders chose to abandon the principles of the Constitution. Look where that has gotten us. Is America better off than it was over a 100 years ago? NOPE! And why? Our leaders have brought down on us the fruits of their stupidity. You reap what you sow. For every action, there is an equal or opposite reaction. When you do things right, you receive blessings from it. When you do things wrong you reap despair and even death. Common sense, or at least it should be.

          • Kimberly

            @Bruce See my reply to Iris. The reason our government isn’t following the Constitution now is because of WE THE PEOPLE, who were asleep on the job. Since WE THE PEOPLE put these yahoos in office, WE THE PEOPLE, are responsible to wake up and remove them. To step back and say “now it’s useless” is “giving up”. You might as well just lay down and die right now, because you believe there’s nothing left or no hope.

            The 14th Amendment was written regarding slavery and making sure that the freed slaves were treated as citizens. It was for that purpose and that purpose alone. It accompanies the 13th Amendment. Now Congress and others are trying to rewrite it and use it for another purpose.

            The problem is WE THE PEOPLE have been brainwashed and dumbed down by the public screwel system, the news media, movies and entertainment. Now it’s up to us to get smart again, and deprogram ourselves.

            Congress is a cross section of the people who put them there. So what does that say about THE PEOPLE? People are destroyed for lack of knowledge. But as history shows with the Great Reformation and the American Revolution, when you reverse ignorance, great things happen.

            So don’t be so quick to give up. There are many people waking up now, but it will take a whole lot of time and patience on our part. However, this plays out, it is not the “End of America” as we know it.

          • FederalistNo84

            @Bruce
            You said “All of the problems we face today all stem from the 14th Amendment. So no matter what goes on, or who you vote for it makes no differance at all.”

            I see several issues with what you present. First, the problems we face go back much further and Alexander Hamilton stated the problem sufficiently in Federalist No. 84. “I go further, and affirm that bills of rights, in the sense and to the extent in which they are contended for, are not only unnecessary in the proposed Constitution, but would even be dangerous. They would contain various exceptions to powers not granted; and, on this very account, would afford a colorable pretext to claim more than were granted. For why declare that things shall not be done which there is no power to do? Why, for instance, should it be said that the liberty of the press shall not be restrained, when no power is given by which restrictions may be imposed? I will not contend that such a provision would confer a regulating power; but it is evident that it would furnish, to men disposed to usurp, a plausible pretense for claiming that power. They might urge with a semblance of reason, that the Constitution ought not to be charged with the absurdity of providing against the abuse of an authority which was not given, and that the provision against restraining the liberty of the press afforded a clear implication, that a power to prescribe proper regulations concerning it was intended to be vested in the national government. This may serve as a specimen of the numerous handles which would be given to the doctrine of constructive powers, by the indulgence of an injudicious zeal for bills of rights.” The point being we have always elected “men disposed to usurp”. We keep in mind that Hamilton is talking about what will be the Bill of Rights, amendments 1 – 10.

            The next point is the difference between Bill of Rights and Amendments 11 – 27. We look for the following. “The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.” We can easily see the difference between “limit of power” and “expansion of power”. You say we must repeal the 14th amendment? I say we have many amendments to repeal and they all involve expansion of Federal power.

            An education in the United States Constitution and The Federalist is required. Almost none of the people we elect know anything of either. Why? Because American citizens don’t understand the subjects either. So they elect the wrong people.

            Our Founding Fathers told us this was a life long fight. We fight darkness in high places.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Kimberly,
            Study your science a little more. that would be equal AND opposite reaction!! The way you state it is not only wrong, it is impossible!!

          • Kimberly

            @Joe H. LOL! Yeah, yeah, you’re talking about Newton’s 3rd law, and I have studied the sciences and physics. So I type fast from memory, and proofing my own writing often doesn’t work. So what? You’re picking nits because you have nothing of value to contribute to these threads. I noticed you knew exactly what I was talking about, though. But how about sticking to the topic at hand, or go away. It’s easy to pop in with snarky comments, but not so easy to give an intelligent, well thought-out response.

        • Iris

          Be sensible, folks. The man had proven he was a threat to our very lives. It was HE who gave up any right to citizenship.

          Thank God we are a bit safer now.

          • Kimberly

            Iris wrote: Be sensible, folks. The man had proven he was a threat to our very lives. It was HE who gave up any right to citizenship.

            Thank God we are a bit safer now.

            Iris, we are not “safer now”. We are in more danger than we’ve ever been. YOU are now a target of the federal government anytime they choose. Remember Waco and Ruby Ridge? The federal government will kill you and not think twice about it. You are dispensable to them. The Clinton Administration murdered women and children at Waco. Burned them to death and tried to cover it up! For God sake, wake up!

            When you use the word “proven” be careful. You get your information from the news media. Doesn’t matter which, but you trust the information you’re given is the truth. I have learned only believe half of what you see, and none of what you’ve heard.

            Al-Alwaki did not renounce his American citizenship. He retained “dual citizenship”. Our God, whom you thank, would not approve of such a thing. The five books of the Law are testimony to how “the stranger is to be treated in thy land”, especially if he comes to seek refuge.

            The Founding Fathers believed in “One Law, One Land.” They also followed “The Law of Nations”—those laws which fall under “common law”, that nations agree not to violate against each other, and “assassination” is one of them.

            If we are to be “beacon” to the world, we MUST be “fair and just” and follow the rule of law. Otherwise what kind of example are we to the rest of the world? Shall we be the “brutes” that the Romans were?

            Or do we go the way of Jacob’s sons, when they disobeyed Jacob in killing the young man to got their sister pregnant? And Jacob shouted, “YOU MAKETH MY NAME TO STINK!”

            This imposter president has MADE THE NAME OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO STINK! It’s time we all come together on this!

          • Marten

            Please, please Iris, We don’t want you to reproduce, for we have enough IDIOTS already!!!

        • Brian

          If that is true then there is no way one can commit treason since you have to be a citizen to be charged with treason.

      • DaveH

        So Ben Crystal thinks it’s okay for the President to assassinate anybody he doesn’t like? He says “Al-Awlaki exhorted his followers to kill what he calls “infidels”. If that’s good enough reason to kill somebody from afar with no trial whatsoever (because the Government says so), then obviously Ben’s comment condoning the hit gives those left-wingers plenty of reason to Drone the Crystal household.
        Why don’t we just throw out the Constitution and Reason, and just have a Free for All, Obama’s and Ben’s style? We all just kill whoever we think needs it. We don’t need no damn trial. It’s just a waste of taxpayer payer money having them useless trials.
        How do you “terrorist” right-wingers think you’re going to fare under the new rules? How many of you have condoned killing those “terrorist” Islamics? Sounds like good enough reason to me to end your lives (at least if you think like Ben and Obama).
        Uh-oh, I think a hear a buzzing sound in the distance. Got to go.

        • speedle

          Anyone on the right or left that thinks these terrorists should be given “due process” in an American courtroom just simply have no sense of self preservation. In war, there is no due process. One kills the enemy in as large numbers possible and in any possible way. The purpose of war is to eliminate enemies before they eliminate you. Now that’s not hard to understand is it?

          Can you not simply make the distinction between some reprobate marching in the streets and causing havoc, and a dedicated enemy who is determined to kill you? If not, you are a moron and subject to Darwin’s law.

          And all you living room attorneys who try to spin the Constitution to include the rights of criminals and despots need to go back to your day job, cause you ain’t makin’ it as a legal expert.

          • Betty Jo

            What about the US using depleted uranium in the Iraq war? Was this right?
            Does the end justify the means. We did not and do not belong in the Middle East. If we would have stayed out of it we would not be having all this trouble.

          • DaveH

            Speaking of Morons, Speedle. With your way of thinking we don’t need courts. We’ll just let Government do as they damn well please. They pretty much do that anyway these days thanks to nimrods like yourself:
            http://mises.org/daily/5693/The-Police-State-Abolishes-the-Trial

            I mean if the Government calls somebody a “terrorist”, they must be, just ask Janet Napolitano.

        • Brad

          DAveH,

          If you re-read the article you will see in the second paragraph Ben didn’t accept Ohmamas killing Al-Awlaki and his buddy.

          • Brian

            Brad, you need to learn to read.

            “Let me be clear: I oppose virtually everything Obama planned to do, has done and/or will do during his four years in the White House. But the executions of al-Awlaki and Khan are not on the list.”

          • Forrest Gump

            @ Brian: “We shouldn’t be in the business of whacking people like we were in Tony Soprano’s gang and our victims were wearing wires in the back room at Satriale’s. But occasionally, the role America should play and the role America must play are not the same role.”

            http://www.hookedonphonics.com/

          • eddie47d

            Ben is playing good cop bad cop so he can cover all of his bases.

        • Glade Lizard

          UH Dave H, you might have forgotten that us “right-wingers” have all the guns and cling to our Bibles, don’t start that fight with words or guns. Even though I agree with most of what you said that this action crosses over into very dangerous territory, it was ordered by a career politician in the White House, grasping for straws to satisfy somebody in his feeble attempt to show strentgh and ride the wave to re-election! Right wingers did not order this “assination”, we just glad the man is gone. We can debate the rightness of it without blaming left or right. Let’s be Americans again and protect our freedoms.

          • DaveH

            Glade you need to reread my comment. I was referring to the fact that those on the left refer to right wingers as “terrorists”. You know, like in the Janet Napolitano memo?

      • djdrew103

        This ass was sitting next to a known terrorist when he died, whom he agreed with, worshiped almost like an idol, helped conceal as an enemy of the US, and correlated known hazardously lethal information in his efforts. He was a citizen? Spies can be put to death outside US boundaries without a trial. CIA does it legally all the time… nuff said! End of argument.

        On Friday, an American drone strike in Yemen killed U.S.-born cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, a key al-Qaida figure, and Samir Khan, a Pakistani-American who produced the terror group’s English-language Web magazine, Inspire.

      • JUKEBOX

        Obama wants these people killed instead of captured, for fear of what might be exposed about his ties with radical Muslims. He also would have to make a decision about where to imprison them, which would present a problem for him and AG Weasel Holder.

      • ron

        Former president Bush invaded a country under false pretenses, and cost the lives of American soldiers. It matters not that this president is a democrat if he were republican I would feel the same way about this matter. You act against the United States citizen or not, you suffer the consequences. If Bush and Cheney had done this Benny boy would have no problem and would be calling anyone including you who did not agree un-American. Wake up and smell the bias.

    • Handyman

      Is there a possibility that obozo had them killed, because if they were allowed to talk, the fact that obozo is involved in the killing of Americans, by muslims, may be revealed, through them, and their first hand witness?

      • Handyman

        What would that make our acting pres?

        • Forrest Gump

          Al Capone’s successor… (i.e.: just another Chicago mobster…)

      • eddie47d

        Would that same scenario play out for G Bush in the killing of Saddam. Even though he had a trial(and good riddance to him too)maybe George was also trying to cover something up also.(that is your way of thinking with Obama). Another thing a few of you have said Obama is pro Muslim and won’t defend America against Muslim insurgents which is another line of doo doo. It’s not hard to come up with fanciful mud slinging without an once of evidence. The bottom line is that he doesn’t hate America and he doesn’t hate Muslims but he does see who is harming us.

        • independant thinker

          “Would that same scenario play out for G Bush in the killing of Saddam. Even though he had a trial(and good riddance to him too)…..”

          Saddam was tried by the citizens of Iraq not George Bush. You can argue all day over what if any influence the US had on the outcome but the trial was by Iraq NOT the US.

        • Jay

          Of course G. bush was trying to cover something up by taking out saddam. Its no secret that georgie and saddam did business together. I think at some point old saddam told georgie to go fly a kite, and well… we all know what happened after that!

      • ron

        Handyman they may have revealed the oil and wepons contracts they have with Halliberton and the Cheney family. You sound so un American.

    • Mirage

      You’re correct Ron … most of the people on the right, and on this site, have such a blind hatred for Obama, that no matter what he does, it is never good enough, and they demonize him as the devil incarnate.
      Their hero here on this site, is apparently Ron Paul, a guy who has been basically decrying al Awlaki’s assasination without a trial! The guy has rocks in his head. If people here wanted real change, they’d check out the site, Get Money Out.
      If Obama has stepped up and said killing al Awlaki was illegal and the only justifiable form of justice was through capture and a fair trial, most of the people here would cry sharia law was decending on America.
      Oh well, you can’t fix stupid.

      • djdrew103

        Asinine

        I cannot believe the abundance of fools out there in the American public who would grasp this campaign banner and willingly start waving it around, with no intelligence at all. Nothing against any commenter here, of course. Yet out there, out in the general public, is there really such an abundance of idiots who fail to see the stupidity in claiming this guy had rights as a US citizen?

        Everyone keeps talking about treason. Everyone keeps lying to the American people about this guy’s :rights:.

        Answer me one:

        Who said the order was put out to kill the guy for “treason”? Did I miss something?

        This guy was a terrorist plain and simple, whether he hid behind journalism or not. A terrorist is an enemy of the United States of America. He held secret the will and makings of many actions that the terrorist organization held, not in a truer sense of journalistic privilege, but in total support of their actions, and even led recruiting campaigns. That is an enemy of the US. By his own actions, by his own description, he was an enemy of us, the people. Even if a person is a citizen of, or once was a citizen of the US of A, it does not preclude their being labeled and titled an enemy of the US by their own actions. If this fool was on US soil, it might be another matter. But being on foreign soil, being that they were active as an enemy and present with the enemy, their rights as a citizen were circumvented.

        For us to try to deceitfully use a foundation and basis of false claims and deceit, it makes us look stupid as a people, plain and simple. That makes us as lethally potent as any enemy of the US. I have often said that the threat from within our borders is as dangerous as the threat from without those same borders, and some folks prove that point to a tee.

        Just because Ron Paul grasps the chance to smear Obama on this, you tout your anti-Obama flags and brandish them like banners. Yes, that’s right. You are not using your freedom of speech; you are abusing that freedom to support propaganda!

        If someone stands on the other opposing side of the battlefield and fires rounds at our troops, and he is shot down like the dog that he is, he is rightfully put to death for his actions. This traitor was a closely held utility and tool of AlQaeda. But fools will paint a picture of it as an abuse of this guy’s rights as a citizen of the US!?

        To use anything to merely spout off some more anti-Obama trash, it paints people ever so brightly, and shows just how far from the truth they will go to attain their goals. For Ron Paul to use this as a campaign tool, he is a fool also and rightfully called so. This is the moron you think needs elected?

        This TERRORIST had no rights to citizenry. He gave up those rights when he traitorously went to the other side. He was nothing other than the scum and trash that declare a Jihad against our nation. For you to grasp the situation as Ron Paul did, makes you just as guilty! To those outside this group of course, if my saying so pisses you off, all I can say is “I hope the hell it does!” You should be ashamed to call yourselves Americans. Go stand by our troops as they return home and shout out the claim that we murdered a US citizen on foreign soil, and abused his RIGHTS. I dare you.

        Any and all objective viewpoints Ron Paul may have made in my book just went out the window, and a traitor label stuck on his skeletal skinny behind. Ask any soldier out there right now, if they support Ron Paul’s critique of that action of shoving a missile down a traitor’s throat, and see what their opinion is.

        Have the Gallop do a poll among US soldiers and see where Ron Paul stands beside Obama on that one! It was under Obama’s admin that we got Osama Bin, and now we have targeted an AlQaeda leader and got a traitor as a bonus! Obama is the commander in chief folks; he gets to tout his own personal victory flag. Under both Bushes, they failed to rally their war powers to catch Osama. Under Obama’s administration, and his policy to put those same powers into high gear to catch Osama, he was successful. Luck or not, his administration got the grand prize.

        That’s it in a nut shell. You out there, sling your “slash and burn” verbalization of Obama now. He’s a shiny angel compared to you. I call it “slash and burn” because you are ready to burn anyone at the proverbial stake as long as it fits your protocols for supporting your unworthy candidates, no matter how much it leaves our countryside desolate and lain to waste and ruin.

        Each and every family of our fallen or wounded soldiers should have your addresses and phone numbers and allow them the stand outside your respective disrespectful homes and use their freedom of speech to condemn your actions and opinions! They have a right to seriously put a verbal ass stompin’ on you for your own treacherous words. They have a right to tell your kids and Grandkids just how willing you are to go to great lengths of supporting a traitor in the name of your greater ideas of good. It just proves how much trash we got in the US that needs garbaged up and labeled “Hazardous Material”

        You’re not fighting for our rights as citizens; you are fighting for the rights of those who wish to completely abolish those rights, and the very lives of our citizens.

        It is a direct enlightenment for one and all on just how stupidly arrogant our populace can be. The damage your words are allowing right now overseas as newspapers reply too and exemplify your own actions is as dangerous as bullets. Go get a plane ticket, you’re on the wrong side of our borders.

        Note to the editor: this comment’s sole intent and purpose of the author’s perspective, is an expression of his viewpoints and directed to non-members existing within the means and boundaries of the United States of America. Any usage of its contents to claim otherwise without the expressed consent of the author is explicitly forbidden.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          djdrew103,
          nobummer will never be a “shining angel” in any reasonably thinking man/woman that uses even 1% of their brain!!!

          • djdrew103

            And that en toto is your complete response to my reasoning in my “longwinded” (I’ll say it before someone else does) verbal repertoire explaining just how “legal” it was to blow this guy up while sitting next to one of the highest targets in our war against terrorists that day? That is the highest level of educated response you can provide.

            You merely verify what I say about just digging for trash to lead the people blindly for your own misguided goals. You would opt for this poor excuse of a leader in Ron Paul who preaches so pretty, but is a tool himself?

            Our country is surely in a mess,and most won’t admit that “hell”, the whole world is suffering from this financial mess. I guess we should let your Ron Paul run it for a while. I doubt if such literary responses as you offer will never change from the mental misfits out there, (speaking-in-general of opposition parties) that would blindly follow the folly that is being clay modeled and molded by the Repugs.

            there’s no question this guy needed wasted, and most of the complainers out there that merely wish to use this as another masked attempt to complain about everything they can, would have slit this guys throat if they could have got away with it, but would sit here and use it as trash attacks on the current administration. I tire of the total hypocritical bias of the tactics and pursuits.

            This fool got killed while in the company of one of our major enemies and any one that wishes to abuse that as some form of a political Folly can actually feel free to think that you expect us to believe your hype like a bunch of moronic sheep. Your offers to cure are more deceitful than what you claim the faults of the current presidency is guilty of and we aren’t blind.

            May Ron Paul be blessed and may the blind lead the blind, our country needs the lesson.

        • RangerWW2

          djdrew103 says, So much that at my age I wouldn’t even try to answer
          everything he says.. So I’ll just answer the important parts of his post…Everyone that doesn’t think as he does is an idiot…Ron Paul
          has rocks in his head and he hates him… Obama with his sealed records is the best thing that ever happened to the U.S.of A., And if
          the Kenyan decides that someone is a potential terrorist, then why go
          by the Constitution…after all even one of our former Presidents, told one of his aides to stop shoving the Constitution in my face, it’s just a g– d— piece of paper. Maybe dj. you’re not worried but
          those GI’s coming back from the war, and old veterans like me, have
          been designated as potential terrorists, by the Homeland Security Administration.. I don’t relish the thought of this Kenyan muslim placing a target on my back..especially after fighting and bleeding
          for the country that he is illegaly representing as president.
          Article II, Section I. And with our borders wide open, this ‘usurper’
          is not only above the law.. he IS THE LAW !

      • JUKEBOX

        You’re right, Obama and Holder are the two most highly educated “STUPID” men in Washington today, and they will be that way until they croak.

  • http://paulitics.us Paul Coonan

    At least Anwar al-Awlaki got to cross something of his “things to do before I die” list which was “have dinner in the Pentagon shortly after the largest terror attack in the US.”

  • Tazio2013

    “The Day America Died” by Paul Craig Roberts / FYI

    What do Americans think will be their fate now that the “war on terror” has destroyed the protection once afforded them by the US Constitution? If Awlaki really needed to be assassinated, why did not President Obama protect American citizens from the precedent that their deaths can be ordered without due process of law by first stripping Awlaki of his US citizenship? If the government can strip Awlaki of his life, it certainly can strip him of citizenship. The implication is hard to avoid that the executive branch desires the power to terminate citizens without due process of law.

    Governments escape the accountability of law in stages. Washington understands that its justifications for its wars are contrived and indefensible. President Obama even went so far as to declare that the military assault that he authorized on Libya without consulting Congress was not a war, and, therefore, he could ignore the War Powers Resolution of 1973, a federal law intended to check the power of the President to commit the US to an armed conflict without the consent of Congress.

    Americans are beginning to unwrap themselves from the flag. Some are beginning to grasp that initially they were led into Afghanistan for revenge for 9/11. From there they were led into Iraq for reasons that turned out to be false. They see more and more US military interventions: Libya, Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan and now calls for invasion of Pakistan and continued saber rattling for attacks on Syria, Lebanon, and Iran. The financial cost of a decade of the “war against terror” is starting to come home. Exploding annual federal budget deficits and national debt threaten Medicare and Social Security. Debt ceiling limits threaten government shut-downs.

    War critics are beginning to have an audience. The government cannot begin its silencing of critics by bringing charges against US Representatives Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. It begins with antiwar protestors, who are elevated into “antiwar activists,” perhaps a step below “domestic extremists.” Washington begins with citizens who are demonized Muslim clerics radicalized by Washington’s wars on Muslims. In this way, Washington establishes the precedent that war protestors give encouragement and, thus, aid, to terrorists. It establishes the precedent that those Americans deemed a threat are not protected by law. This is the slippery slope on which we now find ourselves.

    http://lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts328.html

    • Handyman

      communist muslims don’t follow the us constitution, that includes obozo!

      • ron

        Ok you two so I say lets take Bush, cheney, and Rumsfield to trial for killing american soldiers in Irag in an unjust war, while at the same time letting Bin Ladin off the hook in Tora Bora actions that prlonged the mission. Then we turn or eyes on the so called crimes of this president for killing an avowed terroist who had and was planing to kill fellow Americans. I will take the chance of this president being right and even give him a pass on this one compared to the WMD lie told to the American people.

    • Al Sieber

      I agree Tazio. the president over stepped his bounds.

    • DaveH

      Well-said, Tazio.
      The sheeple have been lulled into buying one Government excuse after another for violation of the Constitution. The Constitution was established on a moral basis. That moral basis does not end outside of our country. To believe so would be to think you can act however you want at your neighbor’s house, as if the rules at your house need no longer be applied if you are somewhere else.
      We need to take the long road back to once again become a moral nation, a nation of people who once again recognize that if you want other people to abide by a moral code, you must abide by your own moral code.
      There was a reason our Founders put the Fifth Amendment in the Constitution. They knew that Government could not be trusted, and they tried to protect us from that. Now, we have ignorantly turned a blind eye to reality and cheer on Government killings as if we were at a football game cheering our favorite team.
      There is only one excuse for taking the life of another and that is self-defense. We have let Government go way beyond that criteria. We need to stop it NOW.
      Otherwise, don’t be ignorantly surprised when you see that little red dot on your chest. It will just be a matter of time.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        DaveH,
        I think you should have said self defense or the defense of others. Say, for instance, if I was in a restaurant and was armed. While sitting there, I see a man draw a bead on a child with a gun. I guarantee you I would pull, aim and fire in a heartbeat!

        • DaveH

          I approve, Joe. But in that situation, you know personally what the score is, unlike the second-hand information we get spoon-fed by our sociopathic leaders.

          • DaveH

            And you would be tried in a court of law for your actions (hopefully exonerated), as it should be.

  • Mama6

    I am confused on why no one understands RULE OF LAW. Is there absolute proof? If so put him on trail. He was in the Pentagon after 9-11…arrest him! Why do they not arrest him and put him on trail? Answer: There is not enough eveidence. This is a very slippery slope. Why can’t the President say you are a terrorist and have you asasinated Mr Crystal. I for one see this as a bad sign that our govt has thrown Rule of Law out door and is now turned into some sort of Nazi-Stalin-Communist nation.

    • Handyman

      bozo is involved with the U.N., NWO, run by communist muslim, United Nations, New World Order!

      • eddie47d

        Handyman,You could say the exact same thing about the father and son Bush Presidencies, except maybe changing two words to Christian Nazi’s. So don’t let your head explode with your comical nonsense.

        • Jay

          The bush family and the obama’s are two wing of the same ugly bird. Of course, one is left-wing, the other the right-wing, and together, they work to get the bird to the mutually agreed upon, destination! I thought that was rather obvious.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Jay,
            Darn you! There you went and ruined eddie’s arguement!!!

          • eddie47d

            Sure didn’t Joe not in the least.

  • Stephen

    Awlaki was a Dual Yemeni/US citizen. Awlaki was in Yemen. Awlaki had been living in his family’s home town. Awlaki was waging war on the United States.

    The United States is returning war against those who wage war against the citizens of the United States (risking and expending United States citizen soldiers in the process). The United States targeted and killed the Yemeni Awlaki. The United States Citizen Awlaki as well as the United States Citizen Khan were colateral damage victims.

    Government is a gun or a sword and it protects the INNOCENT Lives, the Liberty, and the Possessions of the people for their good. Government is NOT supposed to do charity, nor involve itself in the failed experiment of public education. Governments CANNOT do charity which is unconditional love, because governments only dispense largess with mandates, strings, CONDITIONS, and overt and covert demands for political remunerations. As for education, what has a gun to do with education. Governments involved in these two things are usurping the responsibilities of the people to do charity and to educate their own, and in so doing governments are entangling themselves in religion.

    Let governments do what they are supposed to do, and not chafe at the expense of buying guns and tanks at the expense of such monies going to feed the poor which governments cannot do without distractions from their primary aims, and we will not see BIG government nor experience the theft of monies that WE use to fulfull our responsibilities.

  • http://www.easyinvest.co.za peter

    John Wayne just turned in his grave!

  • SMSgt Z retired Nam 68

    This individual was a combatant just as much as someone on a battle field carrying a AK47 therefor a legitimate target.It matters not that he was a US citizen .He chose to go to war with his country and the rest of the non Muslim world .Think it was great that a Hell Fire missile took him out
    Go Air Force

    • Al Sieber

      Yeah, right, so you agree the president can do anything he wants? even Charles Manson had a fair trial. what he did was to go against the constitution and this could be a impeachable offence.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Al….Barry has overstepped his authority so many times since taking office that no one should be surprised at what he might do. Maybe citizenship should have been stripped from Al-Awlaki. He would be evil with it or without it. Other countries are much more severe in their punishments than the United States. I am sure that him and his followers were more than a little surprised when the drones came sweeping in. They were probably counting on a ‘fair trial’….

        • Al Sieber

          I know Robin, but that doesn’t it right. so, what’s next?

          • djdrew103

            Doesn’t make it right? In what way? They targeted a known terrorist and the other got blown up as an accessory to the crimes. What’s the big deal. Now everyone wants to make it a special issue of killing an “American” without a trial. So blindly ignorant of our current reality of the world. People quote Constitutional amendments as if the are actually presenting an intelligent argument. There’s no room for argument. If hypothetically, we had an armed special forces unit sitting outside the kill zone and had this guy in their sites, you think they should have radio checked for a warrant to arrest this traitor?

            You sicken me and the people who offer their lives in this war on terror. Go ahead and shame us as a weaker moronic belligerent people, just as the Extreme Islamic Jihadists claim us to be. You prove their point. You dishonor every grave dug for our troops making their final trip home. You use this crap for political ploys and it shames me that you call yourselves Americans. I want no part of your version of America. We are truly weak, worthless infidels.

          • Al Sieber

            Hey Drew, kiss my sister’s a$$, you unconstitutional jerk, you wanna debate the issue? go for it you troll. read the constitution, any time, any where pal.

          • Al Sieber

            And Drew, my granddaughter is over there fighting for I don’t what. anytime pal.

          • Al Sieber

            Lets debate it drew ?

          • Al Sieber

            You don’t have a pair do you drew?

  • Andrea B

    Dear Mr. Crystal,

    I really enjoy reading your articles, and I always enjoy your sense-of-humor. I know you mentioned that your opinion varies from Congressman Ron Pauls, and you gave ample reasoning for why you feel the way you do. Your perspective, I would imagine, is shared by many.

    But I would like to mention the slippery slope that puts ALL of America on:

    It’s now acceptable to have ARMED SWAT Teams forcibly enter a residence and murder a Marine veteran, even if they have the wrong house. However, it’s still NOT acceptable for a disabled American veteran to shoot an ARMED robber that is holding up his pharmacy…unless, of course, he wants to spend the remainder of his life behind bars.

    It’s acceptable to have ARMED officers storm an Amish farm for selling cheese across state lines.

    It’s acceptable for ARMED officers to storm a music store and confiscate their inventory under the guise of ‘saving trees.’

    It’s acceptable for ARMED officers to bust down your door, scare the crap out of your children, and face-plant you in your yard under the guise of delinquent student loans.

    I wonder how much longer he will wait before he mows down the Wall Street Protestors with a tank?

    Yes, thank Allah for Obama, saving us all from Anwar Al-Awaki by ‘putting him down like a dog in the street.’

    I know I feel safer when Obama’s wearing John Waynes’ boots. How about you?

    It is not my intention to be disrespectful. My intent is to switch peoples knee-jerk reactions from one of instant gratification to one of equal rights for ALL Americans.

    For Liberty,

    Andrea B

    Ron Paul 2012

    • SMSgt Z retired Nam 68

      “I wonder how much longer he will wait before he mows down the Wall Street Protesters with a tank?”
      Believe the protests that started in NYC and have now spread to other cities is just what the progressive left wanted so there will be no tanks sent just a whole lot of arrests and lot’s of media coverage.

      • Robert Smith

        Wall street is the problem. Attention needs to be focused on that.

        Getting wealth by moving money around isn’t capitalism. It’s stealing or at best gambling with our money. Neither should be legal.

        Rob

        • Randy

          Those Wall Street protestors are Obama supporters – why would he mow them down? They’re doing his bidding.

          • eddie47d

            The problem with arresting Wall Street protesters (about 1000 now)is that the real criminals who wrecked our economy are still inside exploiting us and our markets. No handcuffs for them.

          • Jay

            Randy, how are wall street protesters obama supporters? I think they are people who are waking up to the realization that the game is rigged, and that, not in their favour!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        SMSSgt Z,
        don’t forget martial law!!!! Remember, martial law, no elections!!! He’s slip sliding away in the polls!!!

        • Al Sieber

          I heard that too Joe.

    • Robert Smith

      Andrea uses the following example: “However, it’s still NOT acceptable for a disabled American veteran to shoot an ARMED robber that is holding up his pharmacy…unless, of course, he wants to spend the remainder of his life behind bars.”

      For the actual video of the robbery you can go to: http://abcnews.go.com/US/life-sentence-oklahoma-pharmacist-sparks-debate/story?id=13719078

      Although there is a great deal of sympathy for simply x-ing out a bad guy there are rules. Mr. Erstland didn’t follow those rules and took the place of judge, jury, etc. That was wrong.

      Bing tried by 12 is generally better than being carried by 6, but he was in NO immediate danger when he did the deed that convinced 12 to send him to jail.

      Rob

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Robert Smith,

        You write: “Although there is a great deal of sympathy for simply x-ing out a bad guy there are rules.”

        Do those rules also apply to the President? Apparently not anymore.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

        • Robert Smith

          Bob asks: “Do those rules also apply to the President?”

          Although there is a great deal of sentiment that a President should not do this or that I’m curious…

          Is there a specific rule that was violted? Those yahoos declared war on US. What’s the problem with shooting back?

          Rob

          • Andrea B

            In answer to your question, he violated the 5th Amendment of the Constitution…our “Rule of Law.”

            How do you know that Al Awaki ‘fired’ on the US…did you see proof of that at his trial? Oops…nevermind.

            But hey, thanks for giving away our ‘innocent until PROVEN guilty’ concept of liberty. I’m sure it’s a small price to pay for “safety.”

            Ron Paul 2012

          • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Robert Smith,

            How about Amendments 5, 6, 8 and 14 for starters? The precedent has now been set that the President can order the assassination of anyone critical of US foreign policy. If that doesn’t frighten you then you are a fool.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • Al Sieber

            You’re right there Bob, it could be anyone of us also.

          • djdrew103

            Do those rules apply to the president….come on! We are not idiots! What general, what Kernel, what Major, What soldier, when confronted with a known terrorist, is bound to present him for trial? If a long range US military sniper had of found this guy in his sights and clicked one off for the greater good of Allah, who claims that this jerk had the right of a trial as a citizen. This guy professed himself to be a terrorist, and thus an armed enemy of the US. Plain and simple, smear Obama enthusiasts or not!

          • eddie47d

            Those who spoke out against our war in the 60′s were rounded up and sometimes shot at. No one should fear speaking out against bad government policies so Bob L is usually correct on this issue. Bob understands the slippery slope when governments interfere with the affairs of other governments and what it leads to. No one is going to miss al Awlaki including myself but who will it be next time.

          • Jay

            I think to relinquish “due process” is fool-hardy at best, and if we do, we are in essence embracing a dictatorship. The notion that one individual should decide the fate of any man, is the can of worms that we shouldn’t hasten to open! This man, O, needs to be locked up, if for no other reason but for public safety! The man is a menace!

          • Stephen

            Bob Livingston, Awlaki was a DUAL Yemeni/US citizen. Does this Duality give him double rights? Or for that manner, can having DUAL citizenship produce a single or double liability?

            It looks like to me that the American response was against a Yemeni Citizen, living in Yemeni conclaves, one of which was his tribal hometown. This particular Yemeni Citizen, having spied out HIS enemy and learned their ways, safely in his Yemeni home, waged war against America using his skills. When America targeted and killed this Yemeni citizen, they as colateral damage killed the US CITIZEN Awlaki, as well as the United States Citizen Khan, another colateral victim.

            I am a true natural born Citizen blooded to the land with Cherokee blood along with my Irish foreign ancestry. I do not plan to go to another country because I have none, other than here. If I am to be classed as a “terrorist” here, and I am standing my ground here, perhaps defending my home, I would expect that Obama has no other way but to bring me to trial, and if I were to hold my ground with a weapon, perhaps hold a hostage, then they would take me down by some SWAT team. Because I have not been playing games like Obama has with his birth details, I would THEN expect all of you folk to get all over him were he to “assasinate” me without just cause.

          • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Stephen,

            If your blood is that of the Cherokee nation, you more than most should understand the danger of the cliff Obama just leaped from. (An offense this egregious cannot be termed a slippery slope.)

            You write: “This particular Yemeni Citizen, having spied out HIS enemy and learned their ways, safely in his Yemeni home, waged war against America using his skills.”

            What evidence, beyond the word of the government, do you possess that this is so? Regardless of where he lived, he was still an American, and the 5th, 6th, 8th and 14th Amendments guarantee certain rights to him as such.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

    • EltonJ

      He’s a Dictator.

    • Earl

      I do believe that Al-Awlaki was assasinated in 2009, and again in 2010, according to a Brasscheck video I just saw yesterday. That makes 3 times!!!!!!!!!!????

  • CJPR

    Bush and Cheney just liked to pose in their cowboy boots, while Al Quaida survived and thrived. Obama is actually getting the job done. Republicans are The Gang That Couldn’t Shoot Straight — leading us into Iraq when our enemy was in Afghanistan. If you want a war fought properly, if you want to fight and win,
    Democrats do it right. Republicans just know how to posture and bray “Mission Accomplished”, when they are not even coming close.

    • EltonJ

      CJPR,

      A War on Terror isn’t the answer when it takes longer than a decade. We should have nuked Afganistan when it was clear that there wasn’t going to be a quick way to win a land war in Asia. That would have cowed the muslims. (Sure, other countries would use theirs but what choice do we have? We have the most Abominable Weapon ever made, we should use it.)

      • Ronbo

        What if they thought that they should nuke America? Don’t allow your fear and ignorance to drive your mind under the sand.

    • Ted Crawford

      Yea CJPR they did a wonderful job with the one they started in Viet Nam! Some believe that they even took out one of their own to make it happen! GET A CLUE!!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        ted,
        Hate to burst your bubble, but if you are talking about JFK, he was one of the ones that got us involved in Nam and guaranteed them our protection!!

    • Jay

      I was under the impression that the democrats were a peace loving gang. When did that change CJPR? If memory serves, when Bush was invading, you left-looneis were protesting. Now that you have a democrat as president, the dems are now leading the charge. Interesting!

  • FederalistNo84

    Anwar al-Awlaki was an American citizen. The Federal government has now assassinated an American citizen and violated the United States Constitution in the process. Some will say he was a terrorist. Where is your proof? Where was the due process that could have allowed the taking of his life without violating the US Constitution?

    Not that long ago a report surfaced from DHS. How many of us remember just what types of US citizens were listed in the report? I certainly fit the DHS profile. Does that mean I am now a target for assignation because of my religious and political positions?

    I suggest, those people that support Federal assassinations of American citizens are transferring their Natural Rights to the Federal government. In the process they are seizing my Natural Rights and handing them to the Federal Government also. Consider this, should you become an enemy of the State (DHS) where are your Rights protected by the United States Constitution? I’ll answer the question for you. You don’t have any Rights because you gave them away.

    The Plain Truth about Executive Assassination
    http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/freedom-watch/index.html#/v/1198379522001/the-plain-truth-about-executive-assassination/?playlist_id=158146

    • Al Sieber

      Thanks for the links.

    • Robert Smith

      Federalist asks: “Does that mean I am now a target for assignation because of my religious and political positions?”

      Let’s go ask Dr. George Teller about that.

      Let’s go ask Dr. David Gunn.

      Let’s go ask Dr. John Britton.

      Let’s go ask Dr. Barnett Slepian.

      Of course the above list doesn’t include the others who were killed and maimed in the bombings and killings from the extreme right.

      Rob

      Rob

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Robert Smith,

        There is a huge difference between a state-sponsored assassination and one carried out by a lone nut. You are lost in a left/right paradigm that we do not subscribe to here.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

        • Robert Smith

          From Bob Livinston: “There is a huge difference between a state-sponsored assassination and one carried out by a lone nut.”

          Ain’t a “loan nut.” In fact Dr. Gunn’s estate sued because although Griffin originally claimed to be acting “for God” (a much bigger organization than any nation… Just ask some christians). His attorneys would later assert on his behalf that he had been brainwashed by another anti-abortion activist, John Burt.

          John Burt was successfully sued by the Gunn estate for his part in the death of Dr. Gunn.

          So, are religions as powerful as nations? Some seem to think they are and they don’t have any due process. WEll… There is the Maleious Malificarum. How’s that for due process?

          Rob

          • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Robert Smith,

            You are comparing apples to macadamia nuts.

            Plus, you cannot the pin the actions of a handful of insane people on an entire religion. I can assure you that no sane, practicing Christian endorses the murder of an abortion doctor any more than they endorse abortion.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

      • FederalistNo84

        Robert Smith,

        You have missed the point completely. This thread is about Federal government assassinations, violations of the United States Constitution and NOT the actions of individual citizens with religious issues. Although, I am completely against abortion because it is murder. But I digress.

        I invite you to study the United States Constitution and The Federalist (Federalist Papers). In case you didn’t know, The Federalist is comprised of 85 Pamphlets which explain the need for ratification of the United States Constitution. We had defects in the Articles of Confederation as I’m sure you are aware.

        Have a nice day.

        • TML

          Don’t forget the Anti-Federalist papers

        • Robert Smith

          Federalist says: ” This thread is about Federal government assassinations, violations of the United States Constitution and NOT the actions of individual citizens with religious issues.”

          MOF, the dead guy proclaimed WAR against America. That makes him an enemy combatant and fair game.

          Rob

          • FederalistNo84

            Robert Smith,
            You openly stand against the United States Constitution. Your thinking is convoluted at best. No doubt you have learned how to think by the EXTREME LEFT. Your thinking leads to blood lust and WROL.

            United States Constitution:

            Article 3, Section 3, Clause 1, Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

            Article 3, Section 3, Clause 2, The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

          • Kimberly

            I would also add that Congress has not formally declared war on Islam or any muslim country. We are not technically “at war”, but doing “police actions”. Without the formal declaration of war by the law of the Constitution, Congress is engaging in an unlawful police action and not subject to laws regarding war that THE PEOPLE have established. Remember, the federal government was formed “by WE THE PEOPLE”. The president, Congress and Supreme Court are only allowed the powers that are given to them by the people as outlined in the Constitution, especially Congress, in Article 1, Sec. 8.

            Last time I read or heard, the Constitution is still part of supreme law of the land, unless the states and the people vote otherwise.

          • RangerWW2

            What did the woman at Ruby Ridge do to be murdered by a government sniper, while she was holding her baby in her arms…. What did the
            women and children do against the government in Waco, to be burnt alive.. When the government can ignore the Constitution, and break the law… aren’t they the outlaws ? Evidently they can do anything and murder any one they claim is a terrorist, because our Constitution is
            just a piece of toilet tissue, and it’s null and void..

  • Ronbo

    Who wrote this nasty, snarky piece – especially calling the President’s chest a “birdcage”. Not cool – kind of being a d–k. He is the duly elected President; who are you(?) some self-appointed nitwit?

    Although I do agree that assassinations are always wrong when there has been no trial or due process. Any President who assassinates is wrong. This can not stand.

    Please start being a brave nation again. I’m sick of all the fear and over-coddling and Patriot act bull. Danger is a part of life. We’ve always had terrorism and always will. Get over your fears and get up and out from under the bed. Don’t take my liberties because you are full of fear and angst!

    • Ted Crawford

      Ronbo, I’m reminded at times like this of what Thomas Jefferson said. “A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will loser both and deserves neither.”
      I don’t knoe if you are aware of it but you pointed out what you believe to be “snarky behavior” while, within the same sentence, you ingage in it yourself. It’s hard to always observe proper attitudes!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      ronbo,
      Although I respect the office of the president of the United States of America, I will respect the holder of said office when he earns it, and so far he hasn’t!!

      • RangerWW2

        Joe H. My sentiment exactly, No one knows if this Kenyan is even legal
        with his sealed records.. Patriotism means to stand by the country. It
        does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official
        save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country.
        Theodore Roosevelt.. This Illegal has done more damage to our nation without firing a shot… than any foreign enemy could have done
        in that time. my opinion.

  • http://yahoo Skyraider6

    has anyone ever heard obummer say i love this country the USA i don’t think so John Wayne he’s not
    semper fi

  • kentucky colonel

    I am automatically in favor of ANYTHING the ACLU is against and opposed to anything they are for. They are the most dangerous people on earth, by far.

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear kentucky colonel,

      That is a foolish policy.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Al Sieber

        Bob I like your style, I wish I could be that calm.

      • RangerWW2

        I agree that the most dangerous organization in the US is the subversive ACLU.. Founded by a communist and run by the communists,
        and there’s only one thing the communists want, the demise of our
        Republic.

    • Brian

      You sir, have been duped. While I don’t agree with everything the ACLU does, to go against everything they support simply because they support it makes you nothing but a closed-minded fool.

      • RangerWW2

        Brian, are you a communist? Because in my 87 yrs. I haven’ seen a communist organization like the ACLU, (a misnomer) ever do anything
        that didn’t benefit the communists in some way. So the one you call
        a fool.. I call a Patriot, and I’d take him to watch my back in combat anytime.

    • Randy

      Even a blind hog (ACLU in this case) occasionally stumbles across an acorn.

    • http://gmail.com David J. Sanchez

      Thank you Bob Livingston. Some of these people don’t realize that the ACLU does back some idiotic causes but it is better than the alternative of disallowing them their right to work independently on cases that at times are pertinent to the cause of liberty. Open your eyes Kentucky colonel, there is much more to this issue than you can imagine. The ACLU does champion some causes that are ridiculous, but things work out for the best in the end.

      • eddie47d

        Thank You David

      • RangerWW2

        There are people who should open their eyes… and it’s not the Kentucky Colonel. Check out the ACLU on the internet.. You’ll love them if you’re a communist or an atheist.

    • Jay

      I understand where the Colonel was coming from. Personally, i detest the ACLU. I’ve yet to find one thing they have done that merits recognition. Can anyone think of something? Any takers?

  • http://aol.com sean murrey ILLIniois

    When this POS became our enemy we had every to kill that bastard.

  • AL ATKINS

    Who wanted to toss the first stone of warrants and go with the FBI to serve them on him, HUH, and that means you too ACLU?

    • Brian

      Right, because we have never captured or detained a single terrorist.

  • former walmart person

    Who cares about man child. No one I know gets all the credit and none of the blame. You want the credit? Then take the blame as well, Obummer.

  • Pastori Balele

    America and the world is safer without those four. At least we can breath fresh air. Thank God we have Obama as President of US and the World.

    • Randy

      Are we really safer? There’s 2-billion Muslims and if 10% are radicallized (true believers in the Koranic garbage) that’s around 200-million crazies. How on earth are we a safer place for sending this guy to 72-1/2 virgins?

  • http://www.foundersrevolution.net Patriot1776

    The underlying issue here is that executive ordered assasination of a U.S. born citizen sets a precident for future activity of a similar nature. While Awlaki may have truly been an enemy, what about the next one? how about ten years or so down the road when their sights may be set on an anti big government type of patriot whom they deem a “threat?” “Well we have done this before and we must protect the American people from all kinds of extremists” is likely what we will hear at that point. This is why it is important to follow the rule of law in this case and all cases. Call me crazy if you want. But I see it coming.

  • Ken

    only one Hugh problem here, both of theses guys were American citizens.

    So now you agree that we can bypass any constitutional safeguard on due process as long as the President ok.s it? Something drastically wrong with your thinking pal, only leads to a downhill spiral in our society.

  • TML

    “I know my kill-’em-where-you-find-’em attitude gets me sideways with some folks, including Bob Livingston and Congressman Ron Paul.”

    You can add me to that list.

    “But occasionally, the role America should play and the role America must play are not the same role.”

    Why should we ever separate what America should do and what America must do? This is purely an attempt to rationalize your own prejudice to serve your own cause, and has no foundation in virtue.

    You obviously have a prejudice against the people of Muslim culture, as you attempt to insult their way of life down to a dirt road, and not just the so-called terrorists preaching Jihad.

    I’m betting you don’t even know where the word Jihad came from do you? It came from the Crusades… and I won’t attempt to give you a full history lesson, which you are badly in need of, I’m sure… but this reaction of Jihad is in direct consequence to our wars with Muslim nations, just as it was then. It’s nothing but a technological repeat of the Crusades, and they see it as such, since we are only at war with “terrorists” (War on Terror), which has become, to the Christian nations, synonymous with Muslim. It’s not about “killing the infidel” you fool… it’s about fighting back against a nation that fails to do what it SHOULD do… stop going abroad in search of monsters to destroy.

    And you would have us believe that it’s ok to kill anyone where they stand, especially an American citizen, without trial or due process of law… in a barbaric and cowardly fashion… a fashion that is more despicable than the Jihad you wish to condemn… for preaching Jihad to the nations we constantly bomb? And all for the sake of doing what you think we must? You’re a fool, a hypocrite, and a traitor to the American Constitution, Sir.

    “Does it violate Yemeni sovereignty? Possibly, but ours is more important.”

    And you think that’s ok, huh? What would you have to say if our sovereignty was violated I wonder? Let me guess… “kill ‘em where they stand”, right?
    Interesting that you condemn others for the same thing you are guilty of.

    “They want to kill us because we live by ideals which are anathematic to them”

    They don’t want to kill us because we are a free nation with different ideals. They hate us because we are over there, violating their sovereignty, invading their countries, killing their people. Wake up and get a clue

  • http://n/a John Beach

    When Barack Hussein takes out Anwar and Samir it makes you think that, just perhaps, he is more “Barry who’s sane” and or than “bury who’s not…..”
    Let’s hope there are not too many more Muslim Americans of the treasonous ilk. They give us reason to question our domestic security and tax our tolerance.

  • Donald

    When the Special Forces unit arrived, there was the hope that Bin Laden could be captured alive. He pulled a rifle and not a white flag and the Special Forces shot him in self defense. There was no time for a trial. Bin Laden sealed his fate by his own actions. He chose martyrdom over a trial

    • Earl

      Hate to keep repeating this, but Bin Laden died of kidney failure in 2001, was buried in Tora Bora, and was in a hospital in Pakistan the day 9/11 happened. He has been reconstituted 7 or 8 times since then, in a variety of faces and beards, not to mention noses. Just thought U should know that. (from multiple sources).

  • Old Henry

    “walk around in his John Wayne shoes for a bit”

    That would bring the Duke straight outta his grave. A commie foreign national dirt-bag Muslim IN HIS SHOES?!

  • Barbara

    I was going to put your column in junk mail – where it belongs. But then I thought, better that I see the swill you are putting out. Republicans have proven themselves to care nothing for 99% of Americans – they need to go.

  • Barbara

    This was a great country before bush jr stole the election and ruined it. The scary thing is that republicans are still trying to put us in a depression – and it looks like they may get their wish. Our funeral though.

    • http://gmail.com David J. Sanchez

      Barbara, please do yourself a favor and wake up by getting past the old worn out phrases and conundrums of the 60′s and 70′s. Both political party’s have their problems, Democrans and Republicrats. It should be the persons ideas that you are voting for and not a party. Get past all the ignorant hype. I was going to make a comment about how we are all future targets of this President,who rules by Executive order (fiat) and feels that he can declare a fellow American citizen a target for assassination, whenever he needs to pick up his sagging popularity ratings in the polls. Is there anything that this man considers sacred, as he does not think that the U.S. Constitution is worth following. There are those that marginalize and call Constitutionalists kooks, but if we do not come to our senses very soon, this Nation will be nothing but a memorable note in history. Representative Dr. Ron Paul is and has been the only consistent stalwart of the Bill of Rights and the U.S.Constitution, and deserves to be elected President of this country. What presently separates us from other nations in the world ? It is reprehensible what we have allowed to happen to this Nation and our Constitution.

  • Sivispace

    I agree completely. Criminal defendants deserve and are guaranteed Due Process. However, the two treasonous Islamofacists elected to be enemy combatants. Enemy combatants are not entitled to Due Process. They are not entitled to warning or even time to duck. Declare war against this great nation and you are fair game. The Jihadists may consider America to be a snake but we are a rattle snake and they are going to get bit. And there is no antivenin for the American Rattlesnake.

  • Allan Denial

    What ever happen to due process? Oh I forgot it went out the door with the Patriot ACT. Going it to another Country and murdering people and you wonder why they hate us.

    • 45caliber

      Allan:

      Please tell me in detail just how you would serve “due process” on these two men in Yemen? I’d really like to know since I’m certain that this will come up again. Further, I’d like you to explain how you would NOT be equally guilty of further crimes they commit by refusing to apprehend them when you have the chance.

      • DaveH

        How did they know where he was for the Drone attack? China is reporting that they got the wrong guy. Who knows? If they can’t get close enough to arrest him, how can they be sure?
        It very much disturbs me how many Americans march in lockstep with whatever killings the Government orders, and in Foreign countries at that, where we really have absolutely no business being.
        What gets me is that Government has a history of staging false flag events to get their way, and lies are like candy to them these days. Still the armchair warriors will sit in their easy chairs shouting “Rah-Rah-Rah, kill those rotten people”, when in fact all we have to go on is the word of lying Leaders.
        No wonder Hitler had it so easy.

        • DaveH

          We’re supposed to be the good guys. Those ideals are long gone.

          • Al Sieber

            Dave, I heard that too, the wrong people? whoops.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        45caliber,
        you would politely walk up, knock on the door, and say ” excuse me sirs, I have to arrest you, both! Of course, then they would have no choice but to surrender and be arrested!!! Yup, Uhuh!!

  • 45caliber

    “… walking around dressed like beekeepers in 110 degree heat all day makes them both smell like hamsters.”

    Actually, if they smelled like hamsters, people wouldn’t object. They smell more like goats – or perhaps camels.

  • ONTIME

    This is another hedge fund that the Mysery Man is using to endear himself in some way to the military who does not trust him and for good reason, ask the SOP SEAL Team 6 people. Take notice of how many of them are now deceased and remember they crossed him three times previous.

    This guy consistently has plan A and B working simultaneously, it is a give and take, one day you think you are rewarded but you soon find out that the reward is surplanted by a tax to take it back your hard won reward. This guy doen’t like to lose anything and his Chi-Town political schemes are devious but obvious, if you trust this guy then you have shaken hands with the devil……count your fingers.

  • Joseph

    If an american citizen joined the nazis to kill our soldiers during World War 2, would you hold your fire to give him a fair trial? On the battlefield you shoot so you don’t get shot. Wake up.

    • Kimberly

      That’s only in time of war, where war has been formally declared by Congress according to the Constitution. The last time Congress declared war was WWII. They haven’t made a formal declaration of war ever since. We’ve done nothing, but “police actions” since then–and police actions are not technically “war” with both sides declaring war on each other and meeting on the battle field. I don’t care what the media or the government is calling it today, they are wrong.

      • DaveH

        And that war was nothing like we’ve all been brainwashed to believe.
        If you really want to know the truth, read this (long, but worth it):
        http://mises.org/books/pearl_harbor_greaves.pdf

        Leaders are liars.

        • Kimberly

          I agree, Dave. Being a student of history and living as long as I have, I’ve seen history rewritten before my very eyes.

  • Alex

    The Tea Party fools aren’t drinking tea—-it is kool-aid.

    • Patty

      Where did this come from Alex? How ludicrous. You were the shill booing at the republican debate, weren’t you?

  • Jeri Smith

    Isn’t there still laws on the books about citizens that are traitors to there country, America? Couldn’t there have been a trial in absentia? Couldn’t this actually have been done legally and had the same result? Just wondering.

    • FederalistNo84

      Jeri Smith,
      The States created the Federal government and defined it’s powers in the United States Constitution. Treason is within Federal Jurisdiction.

      Article 3, Section 3, Clause 1, Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

      Article 3, Section 3, Clause 2, The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

  • 45caliber

    Actually, the only thing I’m sorry about with this execution is that I didn’t get to press the trigger.

  • allosaur

    Big bad Barry be da bomb–only for jobs and the economy.

  • DaveH

    Read this, and wake up. It’s no wonder they hate us:
    http://www.iranchamber.com/history/coup53/coup53p1.php

    • Al Sieber

      Thanks for the link.

  • Donald

    Let’s say an American citizen who owns an airplane, steals an Atom Bomb and radios the control tower he is going to drop the bomb on New York City. Do we hurry up and give him “due process”, or just shoot him down?

    • AJ

      Well if it was the Bush Chaney administration we’d tell the military to stand down, let the bomb be dropped, and then declare war on something and send troups everywhere and fund the military industrial complex!

  • Adrian Van Gorder

    HELL NUKE ALL THOSE RAGHEAD’S, THOSE STINKING INFIDEL’S!

  • Thor

    All the talk about ‘Constitutionality’ and “Due Process” is beating a dead horse.

    Al-Awlaki was born in the United States, but in 1978, when he was seven years old, he and his family returned to Yemen.(UPI, Nov. 13, 2009.)

    First, one cannot say for sure he was an ‘American citizen’ for two reasons: 1) he did not consider himself to be one; and 2) the Supreme Court has yet to decide if being born in the US gives one automatic citizenship.

    Due Process then does not apply. Furthermore, even if it did, the Commander and Chief–even if you don’t like him–takes an oath to defend us–you and me–against ‘all enemies, foreign and domestic.’ That would include even American citizens, in which case, due process only applies to those in custody.

    Sadly, even Satan gets to quote scripture from time to time.

    • 45caliber

      Further, the law used to be that a child would receive dual citizenship if born here until they became 18. At that time they were required to make a declaration as to which country they were loyal to and would lose the other citizenship. It is obvious which country he chose, isn’t it?

    • Kimberly

      Thor, you are almost right, and that IS interesting, however, you’re forgetting another constitutional aspect and that is “The Law of Nations” mentioned in Article 1, Sec 8 of the Constitution. Since Congress has not formally declared “war” on Islam or any of their countries, our government is still bound by the Law of Nations. And you are forgetting the Founding Fathers believed in One Land, One Law. The law was to apply to ALL those residing in the country regardless of citizenship or not. This law goes back to the Bible where God instructed the Israelites on how to deal with the “strangers that are in thy land”. Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, and Madison bring these things up many times in their documents. This is why we MUST read The Federalist and as many of the letters and writings of the Founders we possibly can to understand the “mindset”. That mindset was good wisdom. And because al-Alwaki never formally renounced his citizenship, he was technically still a citizen. Now I am no in anyway condoning what he did, but we MUST follow the rule of law, or we are no different than the anarchists.

  • Al Atkins

    Even though Congress has not declared war we have been at war ever since 9/11. What’s been going on in Afghanistan and Iraq for the last 10 years? So those guys had declared treason and were fighting against us as Al Queda. Actually we need to bring all the troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan now, and just fight Al Queda the way we did Bin Ladin and these guys.

  • FederalistNo84
  • http://al@bellaproducts.com al metcalf

    This is the problem. Whether this clown needed to be killed is not the issue. Either we are a Nation of Laws or we are not, that is the issue.
    Neither of these two were place on trial in a court of law. So therefore they were still Citizens of this country even if they were fighting for our enemy.
    The first step is to identify those who are committing treason. Then hold official hearings and find them guilty of treason, strip them of their United States Citizenship and publish the findings.
    Now, they are valid targets for our military.
    We have been in the war for many years and we have yet to identify and tag these traitors. We captured John Lynd fighting for the Taliban with a gun in his hand. Where is he now?
    This is all politics and show for the fool…

  • Gerd

    Ovomit wouldn’t fake getting Bin Ladin or Al Awlaki would he? Oh, of course not. No witnesses, no bodies.

  • Marvin

    We have become a rogue state. We were taught to forgive. But the military would destroy the entire earth with depleted uranium etc just to win.

  • AJ

    Ya Obummers just a puffed up blowhard that is telling lies evry time his lips move. His recent hits on those people are nothing more than his Chicago ganster style politics to get himself re-elected so he and his wife can spend more of our money, destroy the country, and fill his and his croneys pockets with our cash.

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