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A Really Rotten Anniversary

February 15, 2013 by  

A Really Rotten Anniversary
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It was 100 years ago this month that the 16th Amendment to the Constitution officially became the law of the land. Since this is the one that authorized the Federal government to implement a graduated income tax in the United States, you’ll understand why I say that Feb. 3, 1913, was a very bad day for liberty.

One of the many complaints against King George in the Declaration of Independence was that “He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.”

But the amount of colonists’ “substance” that was taken by British authorities was the equivalent of a gnat’s nibble, compared to what our rulers in Washington seize from us every day. I think it’s safe to say that without a graduated income tax — a key plank in The Communist Manifesto, by the way — there is no way that we would have the gargantuan government we face today.

By the time the income tax was imposed on us, the rules had already been rigged so the super rich could hide their wealth in foundations and family trusts. The income tax would keep most of us from ever hoping to compete with them, while giving government the funds it needed to offer a gullible public all of the bread and circuses it could want.

But it wasn’t just the legalization of the income tax that made 1913 a truly terrible year for freedom. That was the same year that the Senate foisted the Federal Reserve System on us. In the past century, its money-creation policies have caused the U.S. dollar to plummet.

Since the conspiracy to foist the Fed upon us succeeded (if you doubt that statement, read G. Edward Griffin’s monumental study, The Creature from Jekyll Island), the dollar has lost way more than 90 percent of its value. It now takes more than 20 Federal Reserve notes to equal the purchasing power of a single buck 100 years ago.

Yes, the dollar has lost about 95 percent of its value since the creation of the Federal Reserve. That’s quite a record. The situation can only get worse, since the Fed continues to pump out $1 trillion a year to help finance Obama’s out-of-control deficits.

Oh, and let me mention one more tragedy inflicted on our country back in 1913. In March of that year, Woodrow Wilson became the 28th President of the United States.

Wilson helped foist a bunch of “progressive” policies during his first term. But nothing did as much damage as his success in getting us into World War I. One of the most duplicitous men to ever hold our Nation’s highest office, Wilson campaigned for re-election in 1916 on the slogan “he kept us out of war.” But all the while, he was scheming to get us into it.

Once we were committed to battle, the new slogan became that we would make the world “safe for democracy.” What a bunch of baloney. At the end of World War I, instead of more “democracy,” the world witnessed a rise in some of the most murderous and destructive dictatorships in history.

Yes, the old order was dead — to be replaced by communism, fascism, socialism, and Nazism.

Wilson’s dream of using the war to create a world government fell apart when the U.S. Senate refused to ratify America’s membership in the League of Nations. But as the leader of the victorious allies, he did succeed in forcing the losers to sign the Treaty of Versailles. That agreement’s incredibly harsh terms paved the way for Adolf Hitler’s rise to power in Germany and led to another world war.

Famed free-market economist Milton Friedman argued that Federal Reserve policies brought on the Great Depression. That led directly to the election of Franklin Delano Roosevelt and the New Deal. There was no President in the past century who did more to promote the growth of government than FDR. Longtime socialist leader Norman Thomas said Roosevelt implemented more of his policies than he ever could himself.

And let’s not forget Roosevelt’s lies and manipulations that got us into World War II, all the things Roosevelt did to give aid and technology to the Soviet Union during the war, or the horrible concessions afterward that condemned millions of people to a lifetime of slavery under communist rule.

Yes, FDR has to be high on every conservative’s list of the worst Presidents ever. But nothing he did changed the country as much or had an impact as long-lasting as the momentous events that took place one century ago.

A few years ago, I had the privilege of interviewing then-Congressman Ron Paul for Personal Liberty Digest™. During our discussion, he said what this country really needed to do was “repeal 1913.”

While his statement was clearly meant to be rhetorical, I could tell Paul was excited about the concept.

“That way we could get rid of the income tax and the Federal Reserve at the same time,” he said. “If you repeal big government, you stop the hemorrhaging of the dollar. You repeal inflationary conditions. You restore a sound currency, which would go a long way to restoring a sound economy.”

Yes, a lot of good things could happen if we could just repeal 1913. Don’t you wish it were possible?

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

–Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

    There are direct and indirect taxes……and the Supreme court has ruled
    on what income is…….as well as noting that the “amendment” granted no
    power to the government, it did not already have……..The Federal Reserve
    Bank…..operated on the Gold Standard, thru 1970……and there is no
    such thing as “sound money”…….but there is THIS:

    http://www.supremelaw.org/authors/freeman/freeman4.htm

    “He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past
    controls the future.”

    The Gold Standard and Wall St. brought on the Great Depression.

    This time all it took was Wall St.

    The Lord’s of Finance

    It is commonly believed that the Great Depression that began in 1929 resulted from a confluence of events beyond any one person’s or government’s control. In fact, as Liaquat Ahamed reveals, it was the decisions made by a small number of central bankers that were the primary cause of the economic meltdown, the effects of which set the stage for World War II and reverberated for decades.
    In Lords of Finance, we meet the neurotic and enigmatic Montagu Norman of the Bank of England, the xenophobic and suspicious Émile Moreau of the Banque de France, the arrogant yet brilliant Hjalmar Schacht of the Reichsbank, and Benjamin Strong of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, whose facade of energy and drive masked a deeply wounded and overburdened man.

    After the First World War, these central bankers attempted to reconstruct the world of international finance. Despite their differences, they were united by a common fear – that the greatest threat to capitalism was inflation – and by a common vision that the solution was to turn back the clock and return the world to the gold standard. For a brief period in the mid-1920s, they appeared to have succeeded. The world’s currencies were stabilized, and capital began flowing freely across the globe. But beneath the veneer of boomtown prosperity, cracks started to appear in the financial system. The gold standard that all had believed would provide an umbrella of stability proved to be a straitjacket, and the world economy began that terrible downward spiral known as the Great Depression.

    As yet another period of economic turmoil makes headlines today, the Great Depression and the year 1929 remain the benchmark for true financial mayhem. Offering a new understanding of the global nature of financial crises, Lords of Finance is a reminder of the enormous impact that the decisions of central bankers can have, of their fallibility, and of the terrible human consequences that can result when they are wrong.

    ©2009 Liaquat Ahamed; (P)2009 Tantor

    Liaquat Ahamed’s Lords of Finance is an excellent read on the financial predicaments of the 1920s. Though we face different circumstances today, Ahamed’s history of the era offers much understanding on how we got here, providing valuable knowledge on where we need to go.

    Lords of Finance focuses mostly on the four men who ran the central banks of the US, Britain, France, and Germany in an era of great financial turbulence leading to the Great Depression. It is an excellent popular history, painting a wonderful picture of the era and of those whose helped, for better and worse, to define it. It also does a good job of laying forth the financial conundrums in a way people can understand.

    Mr. Ahamed’s main contention is that the gold standard was the main culprit behind the currency turbulence of the 1920s. However, I think the story he tells leads to a little different conclusion — debt was really the main problem — and the gold standard both a catalyst aggravating the situation and a hindrance in developing solutions. The end of WWI saw a much different world than the beginning, especially in the financial sector. Most important, three of Europe’s great powers became indebted to each other and the new American financial colossus, representing a shift in underlying economic power that would cause havoc for the next ten years. Ahamed writes:

    “They burdened a world of economy still trying to recover from the effects of war with gigantic overhang of international debts. Germany began the 1920s owing some $12 billion in reparations to France and Great Britain; France owed the United States and Britain $7 billion in war debts, while Britain in turn owned $4 billion to the United States. This would be the equivalent today of Germany owing $2.4 trillion, France $1.4 trillion, and Britain owing $800 billion. Dealing with these massive claims consumed the energies of financial statesman for much of the decade and poisoned international relations. More important, the debts left massive fault lines in the world financial system, which cracked at the first pressure.”

    In his seminal The Economic Consequences of the Peace, Keynes wrote the war debt, particularly the punitive reparations placed on the Germans, would lead to economic calamity. Over the course of the next decade, Germany, Britain and France would scramble to keep this debt from crippling their domestic economies and exports. The debt led to continuous currency volatility, including Germany’s hyperinflation of the early 20s and then the collapse of the entire system by the end of the decade.

    Lords of Finance is the story of the constant interaction between the four nations’ central banks and their attempts to create a stable currency situation, with the US playing the role of lender of last resort. Mr. Ahamed shows how sticking to the gold standard aggravated the situation and getting off the gold standard eventually alleviated some of the problems. However, the debt and underlying real economy imbalances in the system would take a decade and half and another world war to come to a resolution.

    The gold standard was not so much a cause of the currency destabilization as a catalyst. It forced more frequent and severe valuations and revaluations than was necessary. Gold is an anti-inflationary money base and inflation is finance’s worst enemy. All debt loses value with inflation, thus if you want the money you lent back, you want to keep inflation at a minimum. The natural scarcity of gold helps curb, but does not prevent inflation.

    This is important for understanding the present global economic predicament. The question of debt, not just in the US, but in Greece and other nations in Europe is leading the news. Yet, even without the gold standard, debt is causing increasing turbulence in currency markets. Our modern lords of finance are just as fearful of inflation as their predecessors, and while they don’t have gold, they have derivatives and other financial innovations as a catalyst. They are fearful of losing their money. They are slowly turning the screws on many nations to create no more debt and pay what they owe. The debt and increasing volatility are beginning to jam the wheels of commerce.

    The debt problem of today is exponentially larger than the 1920s. In the past decades, we have added layer upon layer of “innovative debt” on top of more traditional debt. Advocating more debt, without getting rid of existing debt, will slowly strangle the future. Mr. Keynes understood this better than his disciples.

    Just as after WWI, the debt and currency volatility are pointing to underlying real economic imbalances. Unlike in the 1920s, the US is not the planet’s largest creditor, it is the largest debtor, yet it still plays the role of lender of last resort. Ahamed writes of the 1920s:

    Eventually the policy of keeping US interest rates low to shore up the international exchanges precipitated a bubble in the US stock market.

    Today, Mr. Bernanke keeps interest rates low and pumps up not only the US stock market, but creates new bubbles across the globe. Neither this or the debt ocean created in the last thirty years is sustainable.

    We have new lords of finance. While the Fed remains powerful, debt has grown to such a degree to make it less so. Over the years, the Fed has ceded power to our new lords of finance on Wall Street and in the mega-banks, who have created more debt in the last several decades then the world has seen in all its previous history. At some point, just as the WWI war reparations and war debt was written down or off, we are going to have to do the same without cratering the economy. We need to dethrone the new lords of finance and place the real economy, in all its diversity and concreteness, in charge. We need to bring this queer thing known as money down from the marble palaces and into the democratic assembly.

    Joe Costello was communications director for Jerry Brown’s 1992 presidential campaign and was a senior adviser for Howard Dean’s effort in 2004.

    Also see Extreme Money…..

    http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/11/extreme-money-by-satyajit-das/

    • Howard Roark

      Another thing that happened in 1913 was the new amendment that gave the people the power to elect the state members of the US senate. prior to the amendment each states US senators were appointed by their state legislature. the actual job of the senate is to represent the interest of the state itself and not the people of the state.(the elected members of the house of representatives is there to do that function.) as appointees they could vote with the states welfare in mind and not be beholden to the voters. as a result we now have two houses of representatives and things get passed that otherwise would never see the light of day as they would be harmful to the interest of the sovernty of the individual state.

      • Howard Roark

        The reason that the progressives, liberals,etc took us off the gold standard was the same reason that governments have always done so. so they could use inflation as a tool to steal money from its citizens. on the gold standard the government has to openly tax the citizens for the money to use for social programs. (Buying Votes) with a fiat paper system they print the extra money and give it to their friends which causes more money to be chasing the same amount of goods making them cost more. this causes the money that is saved by responsible citizens to lose buying power. in effect that buying power was stolen.

        An example of how it works is this: when the first dollar was stolen from me for social security candy bars were a nickel. that dollar would have bought 20 candy bars. now they give that dollar back to me and tell me that they have paid me back one hundred percent. that dollar today may if im lucky buy two candy bars. then to rub insult into injury they try to make me feel like i havent paid enough into the system. as the lying bastards tell me “You will get back more than you ever paid in” rewcent studys have shown that i will never get back the buying power thay have stolen from me.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Howard has hit upon something when he says,
        “An example of how it works is this: when the first dollar was stolen from me for social security candy bars were a nickel. that dollar would have bought 20 candy bars. now they give that dollar back to me and tell me that they have paid me back one hundred percent. that dollar today may if im lucky buy two candy bars”.

        Does Howard understand that the growing wealth and income inequality in this country has concentrated wealth in the hands of the 1% to the point that they are able to still buy 15 candy bars? Not 20 perhaps, but way better than the two the 99% can buy, and that’s why the whole “game” has been rigged to go the way it has..

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        from a quick perusal of today’s offerings, and every other day…..there aren’t
        too many people that do……and the from the face book crowd it looks like more mushrooms have joined…….

        the new bottom up format……will also encourage even more mindless rhetoric
        than before………..

        oh well

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Do you think the “new mushrooms” in the facebook crowd understand that they are losing a lot of anonymity by using facebook to access PLD and make comments? I wouldn’t go within 100 yards of actually joining facebook, but the thumbnails alone can open many doors.

        I’m reading a new pot boiler by Brad Thor (titled Black List) that begins with an Author’s Note stating:

        “All of the technology contained in this novel is based on systems currently deployed, or in the final stages of development, by the United States government and its partners”

        It is about what can happen if certain folks take over cyberspace—-one scary book even if none of it comes true—-if even half of it does, we are doomed.

        And is it even possible that we can see “more mindless rhetoric than before”?
        I’m actually close to OD’ing at present levels.

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        Can’t say I read much fiction these days and while I am familiar with the name,
        his books follow a single character from what I can see, so unless I catch it
        ( the series ) at the beginning, I tend to avoid those author’s when actually
        seeking a fiction book to read.

        Black 9/11 by Paul Gaffny may be the most dangerous book to be released
        in some time seriously exposing the plutocrat/government/mechanism and a
        single name seems to be a constant from the mid thirties……and it doesn’t
        start with O. or C. Technology is a central point, while omissions of facts and
        testimony in the so called Commission are glaring…….as a teaser it turns out
        that the “flight recorders” recovered at so called crash sites, can not be
        authenticated as being from the flights involved, and revealed signs of
        data tampering BEFORE the events they supposedly recorded. Also,
        that the manuevers executed by these inexperienced pilots too complex
        and precise to have been performed by them, and that the targeting for
        each plane, was a specific point in each building, based on what was at
        those locations.

        Don’t get Facebook or Twitter for any number of reasons, on the top of
        the primary one…….I guess for a lot of people, the world is a lonely place,
        besides being just another distraction of the bread and circus diversions
        available to the unwitting……

        I found this interesting though on the link to Extreme Money by the author.

        “Please use the comments to demonstrate your own ignorance, unfamiliarity with empirical data, ability to repeat discredited memes, and lack of respect for scientific knowledge. Also, be sure to create straw men and argue against things I have neither said nor even implied. Any irrelevancies you can mention will also be appreciated. Lastly, kindly forgo all civility in your discourse . . . you are, after all, anonymous.”

        You gotta love it.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        That is among the best paragraphs ever posted on PLD. Love it indeed!

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Tony posts a good link to “Feds To Use Social Media For Biosurveillance”. This is exactly the kind of “spying” that Thor’s book is built around, but at a much higher level—-I’m nearly done with the book and it is a good read for anyone who likes just plain shoot ‘em-up, special-ops, conspiracy potboilers. More importantly, anyone who wants to examine where we may end up if the conspiracists are right should also read it. (PS to GALT. Yes,Thor’s books do use the same characters, but he backtracks and fills in enough in each one that they can stand alone. I like this book because it really reads like non-fiction in its extensive exposition of what is being done and what is possible—it IS truly scary).

        To the point of Tony’s link. This is “camel’s nose under the tent” kind of stuff if one wants to believe the conspiracists. Sounds like a good idea, right? See who is complaining about “the sniffles” and where and get a head start on providing medical care or vaccines? Yep, every little bit helps, but this is an awful small “bit” and the same “heads up” could be gathered from reports from doctors and hospitals (as it is now) or by drug stores reporting their “flu” medicine sales. Why do they need to be looking over our shoulder here?

        No, somebody thinks it’s better if every facebook and twitter account is “watched” for the appearance of keywords like “sniffles”. How about watching for other keywords too? Like maybe “guns”, “secession”, “big government sucks”, “don’t pay taxes”, “progressives are poopheads”, and “O’Bama is a Kenyan”?. I don’t know whether I read it in the book or somewhere else, but Google is either actually or allegedly “mining” your web searches and “tailoring” what it gives you to what Google thinks you “want” to see. The implications of that are disturbing. If you are a right wing nut and frequent wing nut sites, you will gradually be directed to even more of them and “steered” away from any sites that contain truth. If you are a truth seeker like me, when you search for truth and hit all those wing nut sites of the circular firing squad that parrot each other, Google will decide you LIKE being there and send you to even more, while at the same time “hiding” those sites that speak truth from you. I’m having difficulty wrapping my right brain around all the implications of that.

        • tony newbill

          Its simple , while they say in the media they want you to know the truth they actually don’t .

          Think about it , Obama has from day one said he would be the most transparent Administration EVER …. Has he ?????

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        tony…..you don’t get to be a success in the media by telling the TRUTH…..

        Success in the media requires telling the right truth, at the right time, for
        the right reason………( at the behest of the right person )

        and then being willing to lie, prevaricate or dissemble, the rest of the time, because
        it beats actually working for a living.

        The TRUTH only gets told as a last desperate gasp, in the real world, because
        there are no more lies to tell, that will work.

        And even if you understand this……eternal vigilance is still demanded.

        Not a whole lot of “optimism” in that…….hang in there guy, and never, ever
        go with the simple way out………strive to look for the one step beyond
        simple…….we are an arrogant species……..two steps beyond simple….
        would be genius.

  • Ron r

    You know chip,everyone is a constitutional scholar now days. Get out and vote next time instead of crying on the Internet .

    • Ted

      Right you are! Getting out the vote is important but ridding us of the blatant, in your face voter FRAUD is even more important. Is voter ID dead? If so, getting out the fraudulant vote only means more of the same s–t….

    • Capitalist at Birth

      Are you suggesting that liberty loving Americans participate in voter fraud, as do the Totalitarians?

      • Howard C

        No they arrest citizens who try to commit voter fraud while they (both parties) have the whole dammed thing rigged.

  • nc

    Chip, those ‘events” are 100 years old> In those 100 years of “Oppression” what has kept the thousand and thousands who have risen from the status of DIRT POOR to extremely rich? and the rise of middle class to two cars and second homes and children with college degrees??? What a terrible turn of events after 1913!!! Yeah, right!!
    Give us some research on the countries who have done better during that time instead of your constant bitching about every thing not being done your way!
    Here’s a drill> Line all of your toys (car, bike boats etc.) in the drive way. Go out into the street and look back at what YOU OWN , including what is not showing, and then say “HOW COULD MY GOVERNMENT HAVE TREATED ME SO BADLY AND DENIED ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE ALL OF THIS “NOTHING” I HAVE?? This drill is for all of the TRUE CONSERVATIVES here also! You know, the ones who have never had a leader from their ranks that helped create the greatest country on e

    • Robert

      Chip Wood is a “voice crying in the wilderness” and the willingly ignorant refuse to listen to his sage advice. Anyone that sheds light into the darkness as Chip Wood has done will not go unpunished, such is the sad state of affairs in the good ole USA. I stand with Chip Wood. His articles are very thought provoking, worthy of all who would listen and learn from this very great prolific writer. Chip Wood’s articles are like grand-slam homeruns! Unlike his opponents who strike-out each and every time. Opinions are like noses, everyone has one and the 1st Admendment gives all the right to freely express their intelligence or lack thereof!!!!! Thank GOD, Chip Wood expresses the intelligence that the 1st Admendment says he has the right to do. Wish others would do the same.

    • Capitalist at Birth

      Everything Chip has stated is fact. If you choose to ignore it you have chosen ignorance over knowledge. Is that what has you so distraught?

    • Ted Crawford

      You imply, against all empirical evidence to the contrary, that America couldn’t or wouldn’t have achieved this and possibly even more, and in a more sustainable, albeit necessarily slower, manner, without all this Socialism!
      America had risen from a group of thirteen , often disjointed colonies to a major world power in the first 100 years, yet you , somehow, seem to believe we couldn’t have maintained our success, using the method that had gotten us there in the first place!
      Proof positive that the term “Progressive Logic” is, deservedly one of the Worlds Ultimate Oxymorons!

    • Brad in TX

      NC it would not take me about a few seconds to do your dril, as over the past 4 years I have lost all toys mentioned and now am searchuing for the ability to just servive.so thanks for reminding me how terrible Obma has madee it for many, and growing that many daily!

      • nc

        brad in TX, how ironic that you live in same state as the true cause of your dilemma, george w. bush, and are too much in denial to admit that there is where you trouble started. What is SO difficult about taking a look at the USA when bush started and the CONDITION of the country when it came time for him to leave??? Do you really think Obama would have spent the money he did had he not had to face an economy on it’s knees and two wars not of his making??? REALLY??? REMEMBER THERE ARE ADULT INDEPENDENTS WATCHING YOUR ANSWER WHO WERE OBSERVING THE CONDITIONS AT THE TIME!!! WHAT CAUSED THEM TO VOTE THE WAY THEY DID IN 2008 BO?? A NATION IN GREAT SHAPE OR A NATION WITH GROWING PROBLEMS???

    • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

      Hey nc, those things in the drive way wouldn’t have been a result of the government’s in the first place. Our government of the past didn’t have anything to do with corporate success. As for the last 100 years: you can’t take a people’s freedoms and liberty away from them in one night…especially not an armed persons freedom. No, you’ve got to do it slowly and make it seem as if it’s not being done. Then one day the people wake up and they’re not free. Of course there will always be those who are rewarded for their loyalty…that is as long as they remain compliant. Are you hoping to be one of them?

      Does your government really create the opportunities for success or are those opportunities already there and only need to be taken advantage of by the people? The government guarantees NOTHING.

      Hmm, our so called government, that for some reason we now feel is made up of some kind of elite group of people, was supposed to be comprised of people who have an understanding of and a connection to those they serve. We no longer have anything in common with that group of criminals.

      • nc

        Katrael, have those you call “criminals” served you well enough that they have kept foreign armies out of your yard? Well enough that you can still say anything you want? Travel anywhere in your country you want? Own the guns necessary to defend you and yours from real criminals! Have those “criminals in Washington” locked you up? tortured you? taxed you to starvation??
        HOW MUCH MORE DO YOU THINK THEY OWE YOU??
        TO ALWAYS DO IT KATRAEL’S WAY??? AIN’T GOING TO HAPPEN AND THANK GOODNESS IT AIN’T CAUSE YOU DON’T SOUND REAL SOUND IN THE HEAD TO ME!

        • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

          nc, I haven’t been on line in weeks. You’re the one that’s sick in the head. I never said that those criminals owed me anything with the exception to be honest and they can’t do that. It’s the governments job to keep other nations from invading and that’s exactly what they owe all of us. We shouldn’t have to kiss their A$$ just because they do what they are supposed to.

          We can’t say anything we want and you know better than that.

          What’s the matter nc? I guess that you can’t stand it when people express what they desire for their government to do for them? Besides, I’m not asking for food stamps, government housing, or any other government benefits. So where do you get your crap from? “HOW MUCH MORE DO YOU THINK THEY OWE YOU??”

          And you don’t want the government to do it your way?

          Sounds to me like you’re some kind of government kiss A$$.

          And yes they are criminals because they break the law. Well, we are probably all “criminals” because every one of us is probably guilty of breaking a myriad of laws that we can’t even know exist

          The criminals in charge are slowly taxing the life out of us and using their ill gotten gain to fund criminal activity like supporting gay rights.

  • BigIron

    DISCLAIMER: All that follows in my opinion only and no further claims are made. The use or attempted use of anything herein is your own responsibility entirely. It is suggested that you do your own research if you are to believe it.

    Yes, 1913 WAS a very BAD year for liberty. It saw the following:
    The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 (passed into law on December 23, 1913 / that date alone should arouse dire suspicions) which set up a “private money system” based upon debt, a fiat currency. This was placed under the control of a cartel of private, international banks which is still in control of it today. They have used it to strip the wealth of our Nation.
    The 17th Amendment which further eroded the separation of powers checks and balances by making the election/selection of Senators by popular ballot..
    The 16th Amendment which created “no new tax” but allowed for the collection of a “usage fee” on the use of “Private Money” (debt based money) known as the Federal Reserve Note using the fraudulent term the “Income Tax”. If you aren’t paid in FRNs then there is NO tax owed. If they had told the people of this then WHO in their right minds would have used the @#$% things. What was the alternative? … “lawful money” (Constitutional money / see Section 16 of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 for the required remedy to the fraud).
    Actually, the Fed deliberately caused the market crash of 1929 by injecting large amounts of liquidity into the market and then suddenly withdrawing it. No one had the funds to operate (cover their “shorts”, etc. and so …). Actually, some were in a perfect position to reap vast profits. I have seen a photocopy of a note sent by someone connected to the Fed that warned a friend to be in a safe position by a certain date!
    FDR ruled with an “iron hand”. He was a “despicable” character but controlled his public image with that “iron hand”; one didn’t go against him without being well bloodied. He was (before he became president) involved with encouraging the people to use the FRN because it was “the patriotic thing to do” (does aiding and abetting fraud seem in order?).
    If one uses “lawful money” in all their dealing even today there is NO “Income Tax”. This is hidden from you on the form as “taxable income” vrs “untaxable income”.
    Their is NO law requiring us to pay income tax (someone offered $100,000 to the first one who could find such a law and it’s never been collected) … You see it actually IS all “voluntary” …. when we follow FDR’s request to use FRNs, we volunteer to pay the tax! It’s called an “adhesion contract” and it is fraud but unless you know that it is it is still a “contract” and, under international law, a contract can be enforced by any means necessary. Doesn’t that sound like the IRS to you!

    DISCLAIMER: All above in my opinion only and no further claims are made. The use or attempted use of anything herein is your own responsibility entirely. It is suggested that you do your own research if you are to believe it.

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      For the gold standard to work is for the paper certificates have 100% backing in gold or silver. Consider. If you had twenty $20.00 gold pieces you could buy a $37,000.00 car with them. If the paper cerificates representing those gold pieces still had !00% backing you could use them to. Inflation / counterfeiting, call it what you will is the culprit. If the value of gold was determined on the free market then the purchasing power of money would be determined by the ingenuity of industry. One man can do what it use take hundreds or even thousands. No what’s lacking in this? GOVERNMENT. The only function when it comes to money is the government police to find out if the money is counterfeit or not. Todays counterfeiter use to be the one that checked on counterfeiting.

      • nc

        CHRISTIAN, WHAT HAPPENS TO GROWTH WHEN THE GOVERNMENT CAN GET NO MORE GOLD TO HOARD TO BACK THE MONEY? THAT’S AS BIG AS WE CAN GET?? WE KILL THOSE WE CAN’T FEED?? CONSERVATIVE DEATH PANELS? UNLIMITED ABORTION RIGHTS? CONSERVATIVES WANT TO LEAD BUT THEIR BRAINS JUST AREN’T LARGE ENOUGH! THAT’S ONE THING THE SJV GOT RIGHT! SOMETHING MADE ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE!

        Do we turn to something more plentiful than gold??? Like sand? Guess who owns the most sand? The same people who owned the most oil! We now become controlled by SOEC instead of OPEC! SAND OWNERS ECONOMIC COUNCIL! IT’S SOMETHING ALL THE TIME!!!

    • Right Brain Thinker

      It’s good that Bigiron has given a prominent disclaimer at both ends of this piece. Many of the folks who have tried to not pay taxes based on this horsepucky have been sent to jail because they were deluded enough to believe any of it. I seem to recall reading that some folks who set themselves as “advisers” and sold this horsepucky to them also went to jail for that. Big must know that and that’s why the disclaimers. Which raises the question—-why would he tell us about something that he knows will get us locked up? Does he own stock in one of the private companies that run prisons and wants to see the inmate population go up? Hmmmmmmm?

      I’m finishing up my 2012 tax return right now—I’m going to get a refund and I’m more than willing to pay those taxes to gain the benefits of living in the USA. Now if we could only get rid of all the loopholes for the special interests and get the greedy rich to pay their fair share, things would be great.

      • Butch

        I think that any of us would settle for you using ANY part of your alleged brain. Instead yr a big mouthed bulls@#tter dogging people for having the courage or audacity for standing up to their corporate slave owners.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Hey, Butch—-doesn’t this statement count as “standing up to the corporate slave owners”? “Now if we could only get rid of all the loopholes for the special interests and get the greedy rich to pay their fair share, things would be great”.

        I’m not “dogging people for having courage or audacity”, I’m dogging them for being deluded into doing the bidding of the corporate slave owners. The corporate slave owners have planted all the crap in your brain about big government, tyranny, too high taxes, immigration, gays, abortion, guns, etc. They want to distract and divide us while they continue to turn the U.S. into a corporate feudal state. While you rant and rave, THEY are sticking it to YOU. You need to slow down and try to figure out who is and who isn’t on your side before you start the stupid name calling.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Right Brain Thinker, of course the Fed will win. It owns the courts, especially the tax courts where one is guilty until proven innocent. Have you read the tax law? It does say that the tax is to be computed by the people who pay it. Well, if I compute that I don’t owe them anything then what’s their problem? They go broke…that’s what’s wrong and they can’t stand for that. An avalanche of tax payer revolt would start If just one person would be allowed to get away with it. Also, that is why they started payroll deductions in the first place…few would voluntarily pay something they didn’t feel they owed. So now we are supposed to feel good when the fed is kind to us? I see that you are one of those who “feels good” because you’re getting something back.

        On the other hand, we do need taxes to help fund things we can’t do for ourselves, but that can be done collectively. The question remains: what should be funded and how should those funds be collected? Sales tax, property tax(really just a way for the rich to steal a poor person’s land) excise taxes, import duties and so on? We don’t need property taxes nor income taxes to do what we need done and we sure don’t need to give our government more than half of what we earn. As far as paying a fair share.

        Your definition of fair share will differ greatly than somebody else’s. I’d be willing to bet that if some rich aunt or uncle were to leave you a fortune and the government grabbed 90% of it before you could blink that you’d feel different about that fair share. What would happen if you invested everything you owned into a business that eventually would become successful just to have the government come and take 90% for it’s fair share? I’d bet you’d feel differently. Especially after working 80 or 90 hours a week to get that business going..

        You make some good points with your arguments, however your arguments apparently stem from your lack of experience.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Katrael thinks he sees “that I am one of those who “feels good” because I’m getting something back”. Is he another motivated reasoner who sees what he wants to see in other folk’s comments? I said nothing about how i felt about the refund—I DO feel better getting a refund than the alternative of owing more money, but one can’t read that into my comments either.

        “On the other hand, we do need taxes to help fund things we can’t do for ourselves—-the question remains: what should be funded and how should those funds be collected?—we don’t need property taxes nor income taxes to do what we need done and we sure don’t need to give our government more than half of what we earn”. Sounds nice but it’s all just opinion—-all the taxes we now have in place came about for good reasons at the time—yes, we may need to look at some, but the country has come too far to just abandon the idea of “taxes”. What alternatives do you see?.

        Again, Katrael puts “thoughts into my head” when he says.
        “I’d be willing to bet that if some rich aunt or uncle were to leave you a fortune and the government grabbed 90% of it before you could blink that you’d feel different about that fair share. What would happen if you invested everything you owned into a business that eventually would become successful just to have the government come and take 90% for it’s fair share? I’d bet you’d feel differently. Especially after working 80 or 90 hours a week to get that business going”.

        Perhaps Katrael is projecting his own thinking onto me but I would have no problem with the government taking a “fair share” of all of it with one BIG (very BIG) proviso. That all the loopholes for special interests and corporations be closed, that capital gains income be taxed at regular rates, that hiding money offshore be outlawed, and that the greedy rich and corporate oligarchs who are destroying this country be prosecuted (with the worst of them being executed for treason, preferably by hanging on live TV).

        I figure that we could end up with a top rate of maybe 50% if we worked at a truly fair and progressive tax system in which the 99% got their “fair share”, and would be glad to scrape by on the $5 million I’d keep if I made $10 million or the $500,000 I’d keep if I made $1 million. Actually, I wouldn’t have any problem surviving on the $1 million left after 90% of $10 million was “stolen” from me, again providing that everyone else who made $10 million wasn’t “getting away with anything”. And I would darn well demand that the government spend our money wisely if it took that much. If I ever do become “rich”, I will not be one of the “greedy rich”.

        I’m not sure what is meant by “however your arguments apparently stem from your lack of experience”. Apparently? Lack of experience? I’m nearly 73 and started working and paying into the system when I was 13—-what do you perceive that I have missed?

        • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

          Right Brain Thinker, I won’t weep for the 1% that get 90% of their wealth taken, however it won’t be them that gets their wealth taken it’ll be the bottom 99%. The 1% seem to control the monetary system so it’s no wonder that we’ll never see what you think should happen. I believe that you lack any understanding of what it takes to make a business work and that what you want in “fair share” will only cripple the hardest working people and eliminate good competition. I doesn’t seem that your working and paying into the system included any business building? That’s what I mean by lack of experience.

          I figure that we could end up with a top rate of maybe 50% if we worked at a truly fair and progressive tax system in which the 99% got their “fair share”, and would be glad to scrape by on the $5 million I’d keep if I made $10 million or the $500,000 I’d keep if I made $1 million. Actually, It’s like I said: your idea of “fair share” and somebody else’s is different. Are you currently a wealthy man and just speaking from experience or are you just saying what you said above because you think you wouldn’t mind giving the government 50% of what you make straight off of the top. I’m not projecting anything into the half of the brain that you claim to use. I asked you questions or didn’t you notice the question marks in my posts? <—like this one. .

          "I’m finishing up my 2012 tax return right now—I’m going to get a refund and I’m more than willing to pay those taxes to gain the benefits of living in the USA" I'm sorry if I interpreted this statement to mean you were happy with the government because you're getting a refund of what they don't really need to take.. I understand the difference between willing and happy.

          I also take issue with your statement that all rich people are greedy. Why is it that you think this? Is it because you are one of the downtrodden who envy the rich? Now before you tell us you didn't say this let's look at your statement, "Now if we could only get rid of all the loopholes for the special interests and get the greedy rich to pay their fair share, things would be great." Perhaps there could be rich people who aren't greedy? How would you know when a rich person is or isn't greedy? Aren't you doing what you said I might be doing…projecting?

          At what level does a person become rich? Is that anyone who makes more than you? Are you hiding behind poverty as if it's some kind of a virtue and poor people don't do harm to this country? I guess you think only rich people can do bad things?

          Don't you see anything wrong with this system at all other than your seemingly myopic view of rich people?

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Katrael is again projecting and reading into my remarks what he WANTS to see rather than what is there.

        K “won’t weep for the 1% that get 90% of their wealth taken, however it won’t be them that gets their wealth taken it’ll be the bottom 99%. The 1% seem to control the monetary system so it’s no wonder that we’ll never see what you think should happen”. I’m glad he agrees with what I said, because he has just restated it here. Of course, it is K speaking (projecting) when he talks about it “never happening”—-I remain hopeful.

        K says, “I believe that you lack any understanding of what it takes to make a business work and that what you want in “fair share” will only cripple the hardest working people and eliminate good competition”. Making a business “work” is not rocket science, K. After all , this is America, and everyone can become rich—-nothing stands in their way but their own laziness, right? I’m sorry to say that you are apparently one of the parrots that repeat the mantra of “it will cripple the hardest working people and eliminate good competition”, i.e., “don’t tax the job creators”, i.e., “trickle down works”. All that is just the smoke that the greedy rich blow to obscure the truth. Warren Buffett got it right when he said that he didn’t know anyone among the rich that wouldn’t continue to invest in order to make bigger bucks even if taxes were higher.

        “I doesn’t seem that your working and paying into the system included any business building? That’s what I mean by lack of experience”. Presumption, assumption, and projection.

        K says, “I’m not projecting anything into the half of the brain that you claim to use. I asked you questions or didn’t you notice the question marks in my posts? <—like this one".
        I would suggest you don't get too "snarky" with me, K. If you have read any of my stuff, you will know that I DO know what a (?) means and that (") means more than a quote, and that I don't suffer fools gladly. As in, "mess" with the "bull", "feel" the "horns". And so you don't misinterpret that the way Frank Kahn did, let me define those terms—-"mess" means distort or misinform, "bull" means "truth and rational discourse", "feel" means "hear lots or argument from me", and "horns" means "argument based on facts and logic".

        K says, "I'm sorry if I interpreted this (doing 2012 taxes) statement to mean you were happy with the government because you're getting a refund of what they don't really need to take. I understand the difference between willing and happy":
        I'm sorry you misinterpreted it to the point that you misstated my intent to everyone. Please take a little more time in future to really understand what I say before you comment on it. And the "what they don't really need to take" is an opinion that you need to support if you want anyone to listen. We have government—-it needs to be paid for—-government levies taxes—-that's the way it works. IMO, they need to take less for use in some areas, more for use in others, and the "taking" needs to deal with the wealth and income inequality that is destroying this country.

        K says, "I also take issue with your statement that all rich people are greedy.", and then adds, "Now before you tell us you didn't say this let's look at your statement, "Now if we could only get rid of all the loopholes for the special interests and get the greedy rich to pay their fair share, things would be great."
        Sorry, K, but I will tell you EXACTLY that—-I didn't say ALL rich people were greedy. If you look at my posts, you will often find that it put (") around "greedy rich" to indicate that—-the "greedy rich" are a subset of the "rich", and they are the ones who have pushed the system so far in their greed that it no longer works for the 99%. Of course, the NON greedy rich seem to be perfectly content to let the "greedy rich" lead the way on stealing wealth from the 99%. Only a few, like Warren Buffet, have spoken out an raising taxes and getting ALL the rich to pay their fair share. In that respect, it DOES appear that we could justifiably call nearly all the rich "greedy". No?

        Questions, questions, questions from K. All of them just an attack on the messenger rather than seeking any substantive answers. Ask away, K, but don't expect me to play mere rhetorical games with you. Take some time to digest what I've said above instead. A couple are worth answering right now.

        "I guess you think only rich people can do bad things?" Lord love a duck, K!—-that sounds like something WTS/JAY would say on one of his more "evil" and "devious" days.

        "Don't you see anything wrong with this system at all other than your seemingly myopic view of rich people?"
        SEEMINGLY? Myopic? Don't you have the courage of your convictions to say it outright? Is it myopic or not? Is the "seemingly" and "myopic" in your head (projecting) or in mine? It's certainly not in mine, because it's pretty clear that I see "something wrong with the system" and have stated it in this exchange rather clearly.

        • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

          Right Brain Thinker, since when is a question an attack? It’s simply a need to know.

        • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

          Right Brain Thinker, Are the greedy rich just the top 1%?

          I don’t believe in trickle down economics although I do believe that very few poor people create jobs for people.

          I can understand income tax on capital gains, but I don’t see income taxes on everybody’s wages as being necessary. I definitely don’t see property taxes as being necessary. Government can generate revenue through other means such as sales taxes, but I think they are afraid of that. I don’t have any proof of that it’s just my feelings about an organization of people that I don’t trust.

          Go ahead give me facts they don’t scare me.

          No I don’t think nearly all rich people are greedy anymore than the average person is. I believe that you are just projecting your feelings and thoughts onto a group of people that you envy? I also don’t feel that taxes are going to fix what’s wrong with this country and I sure don’t feel that our current government can fix what’s wrong because I don’t feel that most politicians in Washington have the average person’s interests at heart. Just my opinion. I believe our problems don’t stem from income inequality; they stem from massive ignorance, envy and greed.

          • tony newbill

            Ever since the WTO False free Trade agreement was established back in 1994-5 we have seen these Multinationals Trickle the capital into the lower labor lower cost to produce nations while we subsidized our US and EU economies with credit to the consumer to the point that collapsed with the housing and now we have just a cash only economy that is forcing us all to work cheaper and cheaper in competition with these lower cost nations unless you are in the political correct categories of our economy kissing up to the Printers of Obama bucks that is supporting the cause for collective Salvation !!!

            Some how I think this was Planned ………..

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            tony newbill, I believe you are correct when you say you think all of this mess was planned. The average person is too far removed from the real power politics to be able to do anything about what goes on behind closed doors in the halls of government. Besides, they are too distracted with survival and “reality tv” to have time for anything else.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Katrael says, “Right Brain Thinker, since when is a question an attack? It’s simply a need to know”.
        It’s not too hard to identify “need to know” questions. They tend to be straight forward and not biased and politicized as are the string of K’s questions that I referenced. If you want to make some biased point, K, just do it—state it outright—-don’t try to be clever and hide it in a “question”.

        K is right back at it with, “Right Brain Thinker, Are the greedy rich just the top 1%?”
        The greedy rich are the greedy rich, K—-reread my comments until you understand them.

        And K “doesn’t believe in trickle down economics although I do believe that very few poor people create jobs for people”.
        Good to hear that K is smart enough to NOT believe in something that NOBODY with a brain believes in anymore, not even the people who preach it. They just keep repeating it because there are still some fools out there that can be manipulated into doing the dirty work of the plutocracy—-the “shrink government, cut taxes on the job creators” crowd that are their foot soldiers in the war to let free markets and capitalism run unfettered so the greedy rich can accumulate even more. And poor people don’t create jobs for people? What about for the health care profession, since their health tends to be poor? How about the police and the courts and prison system, since so many get swept up there because they can’t buy their way out as the greedy rich and there lawyers always do? You can be sent to prison for a longer term for stealing a loaf of bread than the Wall Street manipulators will ever get for stealing trillions from the 99%.

        “Government can generate revenue through other means such as sales taxes, but I think they are afraid of that. I don’t have any proof of that it’s just my feelings about an organization of people that I don’t trust”.
        Spoken like a true plutocrat—-sales taxes are regressive and hit hardest on the people that can least afford to pay taxes of any kind. Sales taxes have minimal impact on the rich. Property taxes are progressive in that they hit hardest on those who CAN afford to pay—-those with veritable “castles” and multiple homes. You speak of “afraid” and “no proof” and “feelings” and lack of “trust”? You need to get educated so that you can come out of that rather foggy sounding state and think rationally about our dilemma. Read some Kevin Phillips—-access the site “Who Rules America” and look at the data there about “rich” and “poor” people and taxes. Look at the figures on income and wealth inequality worldwide—the U.S. ranks below many third world nations.

        “Go ahead give me facts they don’t scare me”. Ignorance is bliss—-go to Who Rules America and scare yourself with the facts you can find there.

        K says, “No I don’t think nearly all rich people are greedy anymore than the average person is. I believe that you are just projecting your feelings and thoughts onto a group of people that you envy? I also don’t feel that taxes are going to fix what’s wrong with this country and I sure don’t feel that our current government can fix what’s wrong because I don’t feel that most politicians in Washington have the average person’s interests at heart. Just my opinion. I believe our problems don’t stem from income inequality; they stem from massive ignorance, envy and greed”.

        A mish-mosh of thoughts there, some of which I can agree with, others of which hardly classify as real “thoughts”.

        “No I don’t think nearly all rich people are greedy anymore than the average person is”
        I don’t either, not ALL, just all those who, like Romney did, make their money by “playing” with money rather than truly investing, creating jobs, or producing a product. Along with those who move jobs overseas and destroy American jobs because they can maximize profits. Along with those who avoid taxes and employ armies of advisers to help them do so. Along with those who hide their money in offshore accounts. I have to laugh when you talk about the average person being greedy—-the average person barely has the proverbial pot to urinate in—–what is he greedily accumulating but debt?

        “I believe that you are just projecting your feelings and thoughts onto a group of people that you envy?”
        Why are you so hung up on this “projecting” thing? Have you been reading Frank’s “Psychology for Dummies” book? If you had, you would realize that you are the projector here not me. I am not rich by any means, but my net worth is pretty substantial—-substantial enough to make me feel a bit guilty about it. I certainly do NOT envy the “greedy rich”—–they are going to have that huge problem with “camels and the eye of the needle” when their time is done. What they are doing to the country and the 99% is immoral.

        “I also don’t feel that taxes are going to fix what’s wrong with this country and I sure don’t feel that our current government can fix what’s wrong because I don’t feel that most politicians in Washington have the average person’s interests at heart”
        I can agree with the last half of that statement. Unfortunately, that is why we are having such a difficult time dealing with taxes, because a serious overhaul of our tax structure CAN go a long way to “fix what’s wrong”, but the greedy rich are fighting it tooth and nail.

        “Just my opinion. I believe our problems don’t stem from income inequality; they stem from massive ignorance, envy and greed”.
        We can agree on the “massive ignorance and greed” parts of that. The envy that hurts us is the envy of the least rich of the greedy rich for the most rich of the greedy rich—-they want to have too much also and will stop at nothing to accumulate it.

        • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

          Right Brain Thinker, just what I thought, you don’t know anything about wealth, how it’s made and yes it’s obvious that you envy anyone with more money than you have. You’re probably a communist.

        • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

          Right Brain Thinker, your the dummy. I’m just responding to your numerous statements that I’m the one that might be projecting my thoughts into somebody else’s head.

        • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

          Right Brain Thinker, if you feel guilty then get rid of what’s making you uncomfortable. Give it all away and live free. You must not have had to work for your wealth?

        • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

          Right Brain Thinker, All greedy people both rich and poor are a problem. Unfortunately I don’t see any solution to this particular problem.

  • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

    But, the 13th Amendment was NEVER RATIFIED, It never became part of the Constitution. I believe that the vote to have it included lacked 3 votes, and there weren’t as many states then as there are now. Either the states didn’t vote for it themselves internally or they were counted and didn’t vote for it. That ungodly president Wilson sold his soul to the bankers making up the federal reserve. Nearing his end even he lamented what he had done.

    Aside for our having to fund the federal government directly, it opened the door to federal funds by the people. All that the Fed had to do is buy enough people with other people’s money and the states would dissolve and we would have a central government. It took eleven years to come up with a federal government system that wouldn’t have the power it has now. From the beginning the fed was FORCE. Now it was an EVIL FORCE, a many of us know now. Who’s living off the people’s hard earned wealth? The Fed of course. Up until 1910 the fed’s income was confines to FET’s, federal excise taxes The federal government shouldn’t be any larger than the smallest states government if it confined itself with it’s proper duties.

    • Charlie

      Non-Christian , Christian ,,.
      USA Inc. is NOT operating per Constitutional Law NOR Biblical Law… So,,,? what “”Law”” are they under ??? You don’t know,,, That’s why most Americans are suffering from Hosea 4:6… Try to have a pleasant day……… Meanwhile…………………….
      Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

      Charlie Freedom

      • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

        They’re operating under Satans persuasions. Only a fool couldn’t see that.

    • Right Brain Thinker

      TCA repeats some of the same old “it wasn’t ratified” horsepucky There have been many court cases brought, most of them being dismissed right up front as frivolous, and every one that was actually heard upheld the 16th. Stop wasting our time.

      • Butch

        You are either stupid or a bald faced liar. There are many many people who the IRS has sued and LOST. And they’ve NEVER EVER shown the law on the books, liar.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Sticks and stones, Butch I am neither stupid not a liar. What you are is a self-deluded motivated reasoner who only hears what he wants to hear and believes what he wants to believe, ignoring the truth along the way.

        I’m not talking about the IRS suing people, I’m talking about suits trying to overturn the 16th. (Although I’m quite sure that anyone who attempted to use the wing nut arguments against the 16th.as a defense lost to the IRS).

        “And they’ve NEVER EVER shown the law on the books, liar”.
        Whatever the heck are you talking abpout, fool? What “law”? What “books”?

      • Howard C

        Oh you are a liar and an idiot Really Brainwashed Troll. Here to confuse the issue being discussed.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Let’s see, Howard C sees something I said that he doesn’t agree with.
        OK, then Howard points out my “errors” and we debate the issue for a while, correct?
        NO? Howard just calls me more names. ????????????
        Hmmmmmmm?

        I don’t think the “issue” is “confused”, I think HOWARD is confused—-greatly.
        Perhaps Howard would help us focus by defining the “issue” we are discussing?

  • Zamono

    I do remember much of the national as well as international history from my high school and college education that Bob relates in this article, however, it seems to me that it was lectured in a much more positive light,; especially at high school.

    One of the lessons we must never forget deals with the axiom of unintended consequences as they happen today just like they did back them. Of course some of those so-called “unintended consequences” may have very well been intended by Presidents Wilson and FDR.

    Another axiom concerns the old adage of “the means justifies the ends”. It appears to me that specific axiom not only aligns with the Progressives and the Liberals across the globe but particularly with those here in the United States. The Progressives have a clearly demonstrated history of stating false and misleading statements as well as out-in-out lies as they hide the truth to get policies and bills passed into law that advance their agenda regardless of the damage it does then and later to everyone.

    The bad news is that most Americans are unaware of these dirty politics, back room deals and the behind the curtain situations that happened prior to and leading up to these negative institutions being foisted on the citizens. One bright light is Bob Livingston and another one who does so brilliantly is Ann Coulter. If you want both historical and much more recent information on who did or said what and what happened then read Ann Coulter’s books and her column. They are enlightening and she writes with wit and wisdom that includes some razor sharp sarcasm that makes it easy and fun to read.

    It would be great if our elected officials actually repealed ALL the liberty stealing laws on our books in rapid order. Doing so with simultaneous seizing of the records of the Federal Reserve in order to perform a current and forensic accounting would be a positive thing for all citizens of this exceptional nation.

    • Right Brain Thinker

      “The Conservatives who shill for the greedy rich and the corporate oligarchy have a clearly demonstrated history of stating false and misleading statements as well as out-and-out lies as they hide the truth to get policies and bills passed into law that advance their agenda regardless of the damage it does then and later to everyone. Or they obstruct the efforts of others regardless of the damage it does then and later to everyone”. Well said, Z!

      Z’s tummy must be ready to burst from swallowing all that right wing horsepucky. A “bright light ” and “brilliant” are words used by Z used to describe Ann Coulter. When I first discovered Ann Coulter and read her first books many years ago, I fell mildly (very mildly) in love with the woman. Wouldn’t have wanted to be married to her, but she wrote some good stuff back then—-probably agreed strongly with half of it, and only objected to less than 10%..

      Sad to say that she has gone the route of Rush Limbaugh and has become nothing but an intellectual whore who panders to the mindless right. What “wisdom” she used to display has been replaced by mindless pandering and parroting of the same old horsepucky Her “wit” and “razor sharp sarcasm” have turned into mindless bitchiness and relentless hammering at rationality that are only “fun to read” for the ignorant and those suffering from confirmation bias. She is a has been and is fading from the scene, in spite of all her attempts to reach the bottom and appeal to those who dwell there.

      I may not have finished reading her last book—I was becoming ill by the 1/3 mark—-can’t recall if I was able to “gut it out”.

      • Elton

        The moniker ( right brain thinkler ) would infer that you actually have a brain. As of yet I see no evidence of such in your posts….

      • Howard C

        Hey everyone it’s Really Brainwashed Troll here to interject nonsensical idiocy into the discussion. How are you doing Really Brainwashed Troll? Still not letting facts get in the way of your BS I see… Keep up the good work!!

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Since Elton and Howard have no real arguments to make, they resort to the usual refuge of the mindless and ignorant. Name calling. And attempted “cuteness”. If we want to see name calling and cuteness, we can all go down to the playground of our local elementary schools and ask the teachers to point out the dumbest kids Tii bad we have to see it on PLD so often.

        Let’s see if I can provoke some more by stating, “Glenn Beck is even sorrier than Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter”.

        (And I’d love to hear a coherent definition of “nonsensical idiocy” from someone who is idiotic enough to string those two words together).

  • FreedomFighter

    During our discussion, he said what this country really needed to do was “repeal 1913.”

    End the Fed

    Laus Deo
    Semper FI

  • tony newbill

    on this anniversary the global elitists are breaking apart on their economic alliances as the Bible says happens over and over and history has shown through the times of Oppressive acts against gods people and today we yet again witness the acts of history beginning to repeat again !!!!

    The race for who is going to be the world’s trade currency is ON !!!!!!!!
    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/petrogold-are-russia-and-china-hoarding-gold-because-they-plan-to-kill-

  • Ted Crawford

    I agree that the events of 1913 ended our Republic! We became a simple Constitutional Democracy at that point, and of course this current end was perfectly predictable! In fact it was predicted by our Founders, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson , John Adams, and even many Historians of that time, Alexis de Tocqueville, Alexander Tytler, should we, foolishly allow our Republic to degenerate into a Democracy!
    However another date during Wilsons reign might have, ultimately provided the instrument that will bring about our final end. April 18, 1919 is the date that Wilson successfully inserted his ill advised proposal for a “League of Nations” into the Treaty of Versailles! While that specific proposal was ultimately rejected, it was clearly the precursor to the United Nations!

  • http://Arkybill.cominprogress Bill Henry

    Another thing that people forget is that there was not any limit to how much of your income they could take.

    • Shawn Frost

      Well…not completely true, Bill. They do have to stop at 100%

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Shawn Frost, I chuckled at your statement that, “Well…not completely true, Bill. They do have to stop at 100%” Can’t get anymore than that can they? The sad thing though, they may not get 100%, but they did figure a way to rob future generations of their wealth even before they are born.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest roadrunner

    “The Amercian Republic will endure unti the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.”–Alexis de Toqueville. That day has arrived!!!!!!!!! It is no long “government of the people, by the people, for the people; it is government of the government, by the government, for the government. We have been sold out by 537 lawmakers in DC. That includes the president and the vice president.

    • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

      roadrunner, “sold” is a good word for what happened to us. Not only did we get the Fed and everything that goes with it, but those 537 elected officials are nothing but corporate stooges who are owned lock stock and barrel by the the banking system that purchased our government through the deal at Jekyll Island back in 1912.. This 1912 purchase was only the coup de grace to what Lincoln did to this country.

  • Bimbam

    Three things about this article.

    One: the worst destructive presidents always seem to be Democraps.

    Two: The number 13 always seems ominous events occur that have very, very, bad repercussions.

    Three: It is now the year 2013.

  • BrotherPatriot

    Yep this mans testimony is an accurate account of what’s going on due to the Zionists gaining control of American’s money supply in 1913. The force that got that to happen have given us the great depression, ww2, the JFK assassination & all that touches, and of course 9/11 & giving us a muslim president. These people still are in power.

    Excellent article Mr. Wood. I appreciate your work & honesty.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GemBPvSsbG4

    Follow all 7 of the clips of Dr. Alan Sabrosky’s testimony. Wake up my brothers & sisters of the world.

    God Bless.

  • Tony

    The 16th Amendment did not authorize a graduated income tax. The Amendment was passed to keep taxes on “incomes” (gains from investments in federally connected entities) from being taken out of the category of indirect taxes.

    A practical example would be being taxed on stock in a federally connected entity. The owner of the stock could claim the tax was directly on his stock, and would require apportionment. But the federal gov’t would say, no, it is an excise on the GAINS from the stock which were derived from a gov’t granted license. The 16th Amendment simply clarified that the gains (incomes) from whatever source derived are to be taxed as an excise and apportionment would not be required since it is not the stock itself that is being taxed, but rather the GAINS from the stock.

    This has been spelled out in many Supreme Court cases since 1916. It is not disputable, and anyone who claims the 16th Amendment authorized the present day “income tax” is wrong.

  • MLR

    Wilson was a conservative Democrat, He has much more in common with todays Republicans than todays Democrats.

  • Dave Bishop

    It is an interesting thesis, but history has not repeated itself. We have been in the clutches of Democrats, Democrats posing as Republicans, and puppets making Republican noises of protest while endorsing the Democrat agenda, just as Bush did when following Barney Frank’s lead down the trail to Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac…after endorsing no child left behind.

    I love the words of Marco Rubio and Rand Paul, for the most part, but I cannot imagine a world in which Ron Paul held the reins. I am not for anyone who holds the ideas of Utopia that he has.

    Much as I hate to see it, I have no doubt that the sheep will not depart from the course the Big O has set for this nation. God help us.

    • http://personalliberty Alondra

      Facebook Censoring Protests Against Obama Events.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=f-ZTINjI1Sc

      Please pass on to ALL your contacts on your e-mail list.

      “Fiat justitia ruat caelum” – “Let justice be done though the heavens fall”.

      • tony newbill

        Heres what Happened to my account in NOV 3 days before the Presidential Election after I received a message from someone I did not know about a Lawsuit by the UAW against Romney for profiteering off the Obama bailouts for the Delphi parts manufacturing firm , so I wrote a Post at the Facebook page after going to there and said I thought they needed to sue the entire Wall Street sector because every one benefited because everyones stock values rose back up with the bailouts !!!
        Face book came in a Shut down my page and told me this,

        ” Posting to Pages Temporarily Disabled
        We’ve noticed that your account has been posting spam and irrelevant content on Facebook Pages. Because of this, your ability to post on Page walls has been suspended for 15 days.

        If you continue to post spam after this block has been lifted, your account could be permanently disabled.

        You can learn more about Facebook Community Standards here:
        http://www.facebook.com/communitystandards

        I understand that posting spam is prohibited and against the Facebook Community Standards., Click the Box to agree ”

        So I have been Blocked ever since .

      • tony newbill

        Hey take a Look at this … More Fascism to corrupt the economic system and an alliance to network on data mining ???
        Hey Wall Street Who Needs True value Growth when all you have to do is Kiss up to the State and fold into the Harness of Tyranny !!!!

        http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-02-15/facebook-gets-a-multi-billion-dollar-tax-break

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Tony, I knew that Mark Zuckerberg got Tax Break like GE did.

        The Kenyan Fraud’s team “obama organizing for America”, developed the massive DISINFORMATION campaign. Thru DHS hey hired 3575 paid shills to use an Internet as a misinformation tool to attack Conservative sites and Christians. They will go after Christian “bigots” and “homophobes”, pro-lifers, pro-God’s marriage, pro-guns, pro-Constitution. Their task is to vilify & nullify. The goal is to destroy all American & Conservative VALUES.

        Listen this (@32:10)
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=F1dBz3TTM7c

        Just look how many jerks we have on this website: Robert Smith, Jeff, satanist bobby, Flashy, Jopa, Nut Case, Drakulette Karolyn, Donna, christopher allen Horton, Mary…
        Do not hesitate to add to the list.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        HMN, … I JUST FOUND A BENEFIT TO Google. IT HELPS IN FINDING THOSE WHO INSULT YOU.

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      This nation was nortfounded by republicans and democrats. The power those two have is with the people’s consent. Today we have a true democracy, the majority imposing it’s will on the minority. When we had a constitutional republic, the minority were guaranteed rights, something that doesn’t exist anymore.

      • MLR

        Christian American,
        Who you trying to kid? yourself? The minority have more rights than the majority. The minority gets its way despite what the majority wants. In the senate just look at the fillibuster rules.

        • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

          MLR, I thought long about your statement to The Christian American about minority rights. Who elects those senators?

          • MLR

            Katrael, From 1960 to present, Presidential election years, there is about 55% voter turnout, non-presidential, less than 40% turnout, and for the most part getting lower every year. But because those that run are in the race by how much money is given to them, I would say. big money runs things. Of course I could be wrong, your representative and senater could have the publics best interest at heart.

          • tony newbill

            MLR , heres what my senator has to say in response to my questions about the cost at 20 K per family of 4 as was reported by the IRS last week , Dear Tony,

            Thank you for contacting me to share your concerns about the health care reform law, also called the Affordable Care Act. While we may disagree about the merits of this law, I value knowing your views on this important matter and I appreciate the opportunity to share my perspective.

            I support the Affordable Care Act because I believe that, on balance, its component pieces are important improvements on a system that currently leaves hundreds of thousands of Oregonians without insurance entirely, or without coverage when they need it most, and is busting the budgets of businesses, families, and governments at every level. The law includes four main pieces:

            1) It invests in prevention on the theory that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, and treating complications from chronic diseases is far more expensive than routine prevention.
            2) It sets up new marketplaces where individuals and small businesses can shop for private insurance policies. These markets, called exchanges, have three advantages: they enable consumers to compare plans on an apples-to-apples basis; they enable individuals to join a bigger group so they can get a better deal; and they create better competition that may help reduce the cost of health care.
            3) It puts in place a new Health Care Bill of Rights that will guarantee that insurance companies can’t deny you because of a pre-existing condition or kick you off your policy when you get sick or injured, that kids can stay on their parents’ plans until age 26, that women don’t pay higher rates than men, and that plans will no longer cap benefits at an arbitrary lifetime limit. While I understand the unease many people have with the individual mandate, the only way this bill of rights works is if everyone has insurance, otherwise people could wait until they were in the ambulance on the way to the hospital to sign up for insurance, which would drive insurance premiums through the roof and make it out of reach for almost everyone.
            4) Finally, the law takes steps to deal with our coming workforce shortages as baby boomers retire from health professions and simultaneously require more and more health care services.

            I appreciate that the health care law has inspired passionate responses on both sides. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me and giving me a chance to share my perspective. I hope you will continue to send your observations and thoughts my way.

            All my best,

            Jeffrey A. Merkley
            United States Senator

          • MLR

            Tony,
            Do you agree with him? Personally I do, but I live in Nevada.

          • tony newbill

            MLR if you half to pay all 20 K up front for Obamacare weather we use it or not for a family of 4 when the way my insurance works today we only pay the 5 K deductible per member if we use the care , while we pay the Premium of 485 per month for the policy , don’t you think paying it all up front to Obamacare weather you use it or not is wrong ? Plus how many people in the USA can afford 20 K a year when they are only making 50-60 K with both parents working ?

          • MLR

            Tony, Yeah I think it’s wrong to have to pay 20K up front, but do you really have to? If that’s true probably 3/4 of the people in this country would never be able to afford it, especially since millions of working people make less than 20K to begin with. The reason big Pharma wants the American market is the way healthcare is set up before Obamacare, because there is so much money to be made. I think the whole thing is a mess. I am lucky enough that the company I work for will provide me with heathcare for life, at minimal cost to me. I got enough years in and old enough, when they started joining the rest of the companies out there cutting back on benifits I am grandfathered in. At least for now? Who knows what else they will do to cut costs so the top can get even more?

          • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

            MLR, You answered my question. The people that vote elect the people in our government. As to the declining numbers of people who vote? I guess that they don’t feel that any of the candidates running will do anything to fix our problems so they’ve given up? I agree that big money runs things. There is no short term solution to this seemingly eternal problem.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        The Christian American, I agree with what you say happened when they changed the way senators were selected; that it changed the balance of power and that now the minority don’t have any guaranteed rights through our government. I feel that the “mob” is able to change the laws on a whim because of these changes and that our constitution no longer means anything to them.

  • Patriot66

    While the liberal socialist’s within our government are in the process of conveniently handpicking which amendments to dismantle in order to bring about global enslavement of all mankind; why don’t the more liberty minded, rational members balance this by attacking the 16th amendment. I propose we do away with all direct taxation that flows from individuals and corporations to the central government, by forcing them to get funding directly from the States, on a voluntary basis. Think of the power this would give back to the people! If Congress and the Senate could accomplish this, it would save the US taxpayers trillions of dollars every year. No longer would congressmen have to beg and plead, just to get back their voters hard earned tax dollars from the central government. They wouldn’t have to tack on pork barrel appropriations to bills that are unrelated to their causes. This one simple reversing of the tax flow would resolve a very large portion of this countries corrupt and unconstitutional spending problems. Use your imagination, and I bet all of you could come up with how this would benefit all of us, except the central government. Imagine, only States having the power to impose income taxes. This would promote competition between the States since, if a State’s citizens did not feel they were getting their moneys worth, they could simply move to a State that supports their ideals. The efficency of reversing the flow would be astronomical, what ever is left over from the State, could be slated for the central government, if they behaved!

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      In the beginning, money flowed up. From the people, to their towns, next the counties, then the states and last of all, to the Fed. Each level had control over how much the next level would recieve. Senators were appointed by and answerable to state legislatures giving the states control over the fed, and the money it recieved.Between the amendments the states have lost control of the fed. Money flows from the people up to the fed, and then down the ladder, WITH CONTROLS. With out repealing amendments I don’t know how to fix the situation. Draw a pyramid. Thats how America worked. Now draw a spinning top. That’s how America is working

      • Freedom

        S*** flows done hill, which rung of the ladder are you on?

  • http://www.facebook.com/dave.b.hersey Dave B Hersey

    Jesus is coming soon are you putting your money to feed Him’ or clothed Him,, visiting the sick or the jailed you should be carefull who you give your time & money too

    • Freedom

      I don’t think there are too many people washington that know how to read KJV, NKJV, NLT, NIV or any other version. But, I bet there is one person that knows how to read the Koran.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        That’s a pretty silly thing to say, Freedumb. Since English is our national language, shouldn’t just about everybody in Washington “know how” to read a bible written in English?. And, for that matter, any Koran also written in English? I only read Korans written in English, since that’s the only language I read well.

      • Abby

        English is NOT our national language. We don’t have one.

  • Hey You

    What is this link to Facebook supposed to do besides eliminate many responses?

  • http://yahoo ROHBAR

    A Duty to the Creator to Preserve Freedom and Unalienable Rights
    Samuel Adams emphasized the moral responsibility of Americans to preserve the heritage of freedom
    and unalienable rights with which the Creator had endowed them.
    He said,” It is the greatest absurdity to suppose it [would be] in the power of one, or any number of men,
    at the entering into society, to renounce their essential natural rights, or the means of preserving those
    rights; when the grand end of civil government, from the very nature of its institution, is for the support,
    protection, and defense of those very rights; the principle of which…are life, liberty, and property. If
    men,through fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up any essential natural right, the
    enternal law of reason and the grand end of society right to freedom would absolutely vacate such
    renunciation. The right ot freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of man to
    alienate this gift and voluntarily become a slave. (Quote in Wells, Life of Samuel Adams, 1;504.)

  • http://yahoo ROHBAR

    “It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains.”
    Patrick Henry
    “If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival.”
    Winston Churchill
    “Resistance to tyranny becomes the Christian and social duty of each individual… Continue steadfast and, with a proper sense of your dependence on God, nobly defend those rights which heaven gave, and no man ought to take from us.”
    John Hancock
    Signer of the Declaration of Independence – Governor of Massachusetts

  • http://www.google.com Pompeii

    Very impressive showcase. I would applaud you for such work

  • http://omanuel.wordpress.com omanuel

    See this recent posting on Power to the People, “Fear and Loathing of Humans – Pathology Behind The Climate Change Movement”

    http://tinyurl.com/a2ocxtq

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