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The Democrats wouldn’t negotiate. Instead, they slandered their opposition as terrorists, anarchists, cannibalistic pedophiles or whatever. The Republicans wouldn’t back down from their stand against the fraudulently passed and fraud-laden Obamacare. Meanwhile, they all exempted themselves from the main bone of contention. Two sides of the same coin argued over a bureaucratic behemoth that applies to neither of them, and they managed to raise their petty partisan squabbling to a level loud enough to drown out the crowd at a Seattle Seahawks game. And now, they’ve managed to “shut down” the government rather than reach some sort of compromise.

To be fair, the Republicans are closer to correct than the Democrats. Obamacare is riddled with fraud and waste, and President Barack Obama and his accomplices left virtually no lie untold in their campaign to impose it upon the rest of us. However, in the interest of further fairness, the Republicans knew this lumbering legislative golem slouched toward Washington, D.C., from the jump. Obama made clear his socialist sympathies long before the closing credits rolled on his coronation telecast. And his war to deploy the Obamacare blanket in order to smother America’s future took longer than the Ottoman siege of Vienna. The Republicans knew it was coming, but they snoozed at their posts until the Turks were in the town square.

Of course, now the GOP is howling at the moon over Obama’s and the Democrats’ mendacious brutality in forcing Obamacare down our throats. And some of them did manage to keep up the fight when Speaker of the House John Boehner and others took their eyes off the prize. Nonetheless, the idea that Congressional Republicans gladly accepted a career exemption from the same legislative monstrosity from which they’re supposedly rescuing the rest of us ought to hike more than few eyebrows.

All this week, both sides have hurled charges and countercharges at one another. But the fact that both sides are soaked in the stench of hypocrisy makes their squabble less Battle of the Bulge and more monkey feces fight at the zoo. The Democrats have proven that they’re better at lying, cheating and mugging than a New Orleans mayor. From exploiting deranged murderers and their victims in order to roll so-called “gun control” laws across America to reading your emails if they contain the words “tea,”  “party” or even “Jesus,” they’ve relentlessly hammered away at our Constitutional freedoms. And while the Republicans have occasionally displayed spinal fortitude at least as resolute as overcooked spaghetti, they’ve cowered more than they’ve crowed.

The Democrats lied. But the Democrats nearly always lie. The Republicans backed up until they realized America was as disgusted by their cowardice as it was by the Democrats’ mendacity. Both played the same roles they’ve been playing for decades. Ultimately, the politicians behaved exactly the way politicians always behave without proper supervision.

And that brings me to the really tough part: If you’re looking for the getaway driver in the Obamacare crime story, take a gander at that cat in the mirror. From the most twisted Democrat to the least forthright Republican, every one of the career politicians in Washington, D.C., supposedly represents a sizable number of Americans. But with spare few exceptions, none of them seem particularly interested in what Americans have to say. And we let them wander this far down the Tyranny Throughway. They may have done the crime, but we’re doing the time.

Next fall, the Nation will head to the polls to judge our would-be leaders. If the past few years have left you feeling as nauseous as a bulimic watching Michael Moore eating dessert, consider your options. You can continue watching both sides gorge themselves on your freedom, or you can stop the gravy train.

–Ben Crystal

Personal Liberty

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • independent thinker

    Wrong. Bill passes the Senate including a tax. Bill passes the house. Bill is signed into law. You are the one who needs a course in the constitution for taxes can only originate in the House according to the constitution. The SC rules the penalty fee for not getting insurance is a tax therefore the ACA is unconstitutional.

    • Alex

      I guess “independent thinker” equals WRONG thinker….

      • Deerinwater

        I guess “independent” mean “My way or No way”

        • denise0513

          http://www.examiner.com/articl

          This should help your understanding of the Constitution.

          • Average_Joe56

            Both of your links are “404 Error”.
            The page is there, but the articles are missing.

        • dan

          I wouldn’t call Obama independent or a thinker

      • denise0513

        Please take the time to read this. I am sure you will see that independent thinker is correct.

        http://www.examiner.com/articl

      • Vigilant

        Alex has called himself an “independent liberal.” If the shoe fits….

        P.S. “Independent liberal” is an oxymoron, and one who self-styles himself as such is a moron.

  • laura merrone

    The House tried to stop Obamacare many times and the resolution was defeated by the Democratic Senate. I say let the chips fall where they may and let the Democrats take the blame fully for the disaster Obamacare will be. I think the opposition now is just a symbolic one. However, it is affecting about 800,000 Americans and their families. Let the Titanic sink and let’s stop trying to rescue it….

    • vicki

      The Democrats will blame President Bush :)

      • laura merrone

        Exactly. They always do…

      • Alex

        I am not a Democrat, but even they are smart enough to lay the blame squarely where it belongs: to the Teabag House—the lowest rated House in its History.

        Not only has the Reich Wing’s inability to process the rapidly-changing political climate caused them to back into an embarrassing ditch of stupidity by shuttering the government, it has also induced GOP delirium tremens on a mass scale: THEY promised to “shut the government down”, they did so, and now throw up their hands and blame the White House!

        Obamacare is here—too bad for you. Massachusetts has had it for ten years with consensus approval. Do not forget that Medi-Care faced the same Fright Wing fear-mongering only to become an essential and very popular pillar in our social framework.

        You whiners—cowering in fear with your guns and superstitions, lost in the fog of your Amerikkkan Exceptionalism meme dream—sound and appear more infantile, more ridiculous, by the day.

        You are a very small legion of people incapable of growing up and facing the future. And your legion—or lesion, better yet— grows smaller by the month. Thank God!

        • hippybiker

          Are you an American? If you are, with the way you feel about your fellow citizens, then I am ashamed to call myself an American. You disgust me, you wretched little man!

          • Vigilant

            Neither Alex nor Dave are Americans. Americanism involves the recognition of our freedoms, a celebration of the foundation upon which she was built, and a commitment to her betterment.

            Those ideologues are interested only in abasement and destruction.

          • hippybiker

            Oh, and it is alright if Obama wipes his A$$ with that same Constitution? Dave is another example of someone who fell asleep in Civics class.

          • Larry Christopher

            Dave, Dave, Dave…come on now…”most Americans”? As usual your attempts at intelligence fall way short…somewhere between a common snail and a horsefly. The polls that are out from Pew research, Zogby, and Gallup all show a steady increase in the GOP candidates performances. The Democrats that are “standing firm”, are losing support. Of the 15 Democrat Senators up for re-election, only two of them are “safe”. The rest of the districts are beginning to lean Republican. Sorry to give you actual FACTS. maybe you can chat with the adults later.

          • Vigilant

            “The country is being hurt because the GOP ignores the Constitution…”
            Care to provide an example?

          • Vigilant

            You have just demonstrated in spades that you have absolutely no grasp of the Constitution.

            Every single thing you mentioned is Constitutional. You see, only the progressives believe they can ignore the Constitution if it doesn’t fit their idea of how things ought to be.

            You lose, loser. Best take a course in civics.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Dave the bigot,

            I suggest you quit while you’re behind. You are a mental midget on Constitutional issues and Vigilant will eat your lunch on this subject as he has on others.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • Vigilant

            Thank you for the kind words and support, Mr. Livingston!

          • Vigilant

            Again, if you can get past your blindness, my original argument was that, regardless of the Constitutionality of a law, the repeal of that law through the legislative branch is very much Constitutional. THAT’S what we were talking about before you got off on a tangent to demonstrate your ignorance on Constitutional matters.

          • Vigilant

            Dealing with the truth and reality is my forte, something alien to your brain.

            Impeachment articles didn’t mention “lying about sex,” since lying about sex is not impeachable. What they did address was perjury, something the Constitution describes as high crimes and misdemeanors. Of course, the Constitution carries no weight with you, but you are not excused for determining that perjury is not a federal crime. Hell, even the Democrats couldn’t deny that Clinton committed perjury.

            You have been able to find NOTHING in the Constitution that prohibits the House of Representatives from submitting a bill to defund ANYTHING. As for filibuster, the Dems have done it MANY times when they were in the minority. Filibusters are NOT unconstitutional, they are part of the rules and procedures adopted by Congress pursuant to the Constitution.

            I challenge you to come up with any Constitutional provision that backs up what you have said. Quit talking through your hat and do some research for a change. Your and Alex’s assertions are merely that, assertions without a shred of substantiation. Again, give me article, section and subsection of the Constitution that supports ANY of your gross misrepresentations.

            Any time you take me on concerning the Constitution, you are doomed to failure, Dave. When are you going to learn?

          • vicki

            Since when does a stamp of approval from a government agency equate to “Constitutional”?

          • Jana

            I notice the more you lose the more you start name calling and bullying. Oh you are so predictable.

          • Alex

            They fought against the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act and they fought against the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, for starters….

          • Vigilant

            And what parts of the Constitution, pray tell, were violated or ignored by those actions?
            Answer: none.

            In our Republic, Congressional debate on issues is not illegal, in fact it’s encouraged. Or would you simply shut down all debate on only political issues championed by he left?

            Once again, your comprehension of the Constitution is rudimentary at best.

          • Jackie Miller

            Your kind don’t even know what the hell the affordable care act/obomacare is. Why don’t you people get educated or turn in your voting rights. Watch this if you are brave enough. http://www.ijreview.com/2013/10/83292-watch-jimmy-kimmels-hilarious-obamacare-prank/

          • Don 2

            Ted Cruz for President!

          • Alex

            Not eligible….and certainly not qualified!

          • Don 2

            Please tell me, exactly what were Obama’s qualifications?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Natural born citizen he is not. A natural born citizen, ruled by the SCOTUS in 5 different cases, is a person born in the U.S. or its territories of 2 parents that are American citizens. His father was a Kenyan national and not an American, ergo, not natural born. Also, his mother was only 18 – 19 years old when he was born. By law, she would have to be 21 to pass down her citizenship to Barry, ergo, not natural born. Bush was the worst? Please go home and take your psych meds. Carter and Obama bin Laden are far worse than Bush. Here is an article about the government shutdown is due to the libturds and progturds.
            http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/12731/democrats-refuse-offer-negotiators-rather-shutdown-government/
            Looks like you have been, once agains, caught in a lie. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! ㅏ나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.”
            Benjamin Franklin
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

          • Don 2

            So, other than being old enough, and allegedly, a citizen, Obama had no other qualifications.

            And then, like a trained chimp, we immediately proceed to go after Bush, not than anyone was asking about Bush. What a trip you are!

          • vicki

            On what grounds is he not eligible?

          • Don 2

            Funny…..Hawaiian authorities are now saying that there is no birth certificate on file for Barack Obama. And even you must admit that, other than the obvious phony one put forth on-line by the WH, you have never seen an actual birth certificate for Obama.

          • Jack

            Don2:

            Why do you say something that is absolutely false?

            The truth seems to be a real problem for righties. You guys seem to have a real problem in either telling it or recognizing it.

          • Don 2

            Former Hawaii Senior Elections Clerk Tim Adams Now Swears There Is No Obama Birth Certificate
            http://redflagnews.com/headlines/hawaii-official-now-swears-no-obama-birth-certificate

          • Don 2

            Hawaii Senior Elections Official Tim Adams Swears on Signed Affidavit: No Obama Birth Certificate
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/hawaii-official-now-swears-no-obama-birth-certificate/

          • Jack

            Don2:

            Once again you have proved yourself to be an ill informed rightie who repeats lies just because they sound good to you.

            I checked your cites and researched the story. Both places you cited were merely repeats of Jerome Corsi’s 1-24-11 World Net Daily article.

            Why do you post such drivel as being the facts that back up your claims? I guess you think that everyone will be just like you – just blindly accept anything because it appears on a right wing site on the internet.

            First, Jerome Corsi is a liar who makes his living by duping people like you. WND is a joke. Have you ever stopped to think for even a second why it is that almost nothing they say ever happens? Of course not. It never occurs to you that maybe they aren’t telling you the truth when almost everything they say turns out to not be truth..

            If you would have done more than just read your postings you would have found out the following information about Tim Adams: (1) the position Mr. Adams had (senior elections clerk) was noting more than a low level data entry job dealing with voter registration and absentee ballots, (2) that he never had access to the “government data bases” he claimed to have had, (3) that his story has changed several times since he first told it on June 6, 2010 on the Council of Conservative Citizens radio show (4) that the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division neither investigates nor determines whether state or national candidates are qualified to be on the ballot therefore there would be no reason for the Division to be checking anything regarding Obama, and (5) that pursuant to the HIPAA. law it would be illegal for any hospital to release any information about a current or former patient – thus the hospitals could not say they did or did not have Obama’s birth certificate.

            If you would have read the Affidavit that WND had prepared for Adams to sign you would have seen that the document was a joke. The Notary signed it and notarized her own signature. The only place that Poor Mr. Adams could sign the document is below all the notary stuff on the second page. It appears that the notary signed and notarized the document before Mr. Adams signed it – otherwise Mr. Adams would have signed it in the proper place – the place where the notary signed it.

            Also, what Mr. Adams says is hearsay,- other people told me or I overheard something and would never be admissible in a court proceeding.

            I took the time to listen to/view several of Mr. Adam’s recorded interviews. I bet you didn’t listen to/view any of them did you?

            How did you like Mr. Adam’s video postings made in September 2012 in which he said he was going to vote for Obama and that Obama was a legitimate candidate?.

          • Jana

            I am not ashamed to call myself an American, I am ashamed to call Alex an American.

          • Jana

            Wrong as usual!!!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I don’t know what you are smoking, but put down the bong and step away from it. Here are some articles that will show why the libturds and progturds will suffer heavey losses next year.
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/watch-crazy-senator-claim-obama-cut-deficit-half/
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-crony-media-protection-racket/
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/palin-hits-obama-dont-pinpricks-sometimes-elect/
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/u-k-paper-u-s-longer-superpower-thanks-obama/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Whatever makes men good Christians makes them good citizens.”
            Daniel Webster
            American statesman
            “Defender of the Constitution”
            Devout Christian

        • Elseebee

          I don’t know where all of you folks get the idea that seniors LIKE Medicare- I hate it! My insurance plan I had from my employer when I retired wasn’t “cheap”, but they did an excellent job of taking care of my health. I did NOT voluntarily donate to soc, sec or medicare- give me back the money the govt took from me all those years and I would have a lot more money to live off of and would have better care than medicare gives me!

          • Karolyn

            We need to take care of our OWN health and not NEED insurance to “take care” of it. I survived just fine for over 20 years with no health insurance and only use Medicare for yearly labs (or if there should be an accident) because I take very good care of my body and don’t run to the doctor for every sniffle.

          • independent thinker

            Now that is something I can agree with you on. I go to the Dr. only if sick (which does not happen other than allergies thank the Lord) or a serious injury. That is the way I was raised. Like you said you do not go for “every sniffle”.

          • Robert Messmer

            It is the “Grass is Greener on the Other Side Syndrome”.

        • Larry Christopher

          This is such a hilarious post! For you to say you are NOT a Democrat is such an outright lie it’s ridiculous. Obviously you are not as intelligent as you claim to be if you want to place the blame on the Tea Party for a government shutdown. Your “Reich Wing” reference also shows your true colors. (I assume it’s the colors favored by most communists.)

          IF you had an ounce of common sense, you would have witnessed the FACT that the REPUBLICAN led House of REPRESENTATIVES have offered to FUND the ENTIRE government…can you understand that?? The ENTIRE government. They only want to delay the disaster called The “Affordable” Care Act. The ONLY ones that have wanted to shut down the government is Harry Reid, The Democrats in the Senate and your boy Barry.

          You are unfortunately right about ONE thing. Obamacare is here. However…it’s not “too bad for you”…it’s too bad for the country as a whole. Yeah…Medi-Care is here too…at least a little longer…but haven’t you heard…it is also BANKRUPT????? Are you so ingrained with stupidity and freebies that you don’t UNDERSTAND that these government SOCIALIST programs fail??

          Whiners? Because there is a group of people that are actually standing up against the never ending spending by the Democrats? Because they stand up for what is RIGHT and DECENT in this country? No…again, you are wrong. They are not whiners. They understand and agree with the thought of AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM. Anyone who doesn’t (such as the Liberal / Socialist / Communist / Progressives…in other words the DEMOCRATS) are the real whiners that want other people to always give them something for nothing. In other words…people like YOU!

          Your appear to enjoy trying to pass yourself off as something you are not. By the way…again you are wrong. The Tea Party is not a very small legion of people…and the infantile, American hating people on the left are losing their numbers at a much faster rate. It’s a shame you have to add the last part…”Thank God!” Your very words and actions only show that you have nothing to do with God. But keep trying…someday YOU may grow up and understand what has really happened…hopefully before it’s too late.

          • dan

            the only true colors alex has are in his undershorts…
            until his mamma washes them out for him

          • Vigilant

            His mother taught him to put on his underwear as follows: “yellow in front and brown in back.”

          • independent thinker

            He reverses them on Wednesday so he can wear them until washday on Saturday.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            D’oh! :-) :-) :-) FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Didn’t she also have him wear them on his head? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • Warrior

            Larry, try as you may but you will never get through to the “fascist goons” who “visit” this site. Or “obamanuts” if you choose. Remember when “dingy” referred to him as nothing more than a “house n$gger”? I guess they must have gotten past their “differences” for the good of the “collective”! FORWARD!

          • B

            You nailed it buddy!!! Great job Larry!!! Lets get these Comunists at election time!!!!

        • dan

          dear delusional alex:
          this is what happens when 51% tries to bulley 47%…..
          civil wars have been started this way
          and kingdoms divided

        • Vigilant

          “You whiners—cowering in fear with your guns and superstitions, lost in the fog of your Amerikkkan Exceptionalism meme dream—sound and appear more infantile, more ridiculous, by the day.”

          Translation: Alex does not buy into the Constitutional protection of the right of self defense under natural law . He disdains the whole concept of Creator-endowed rights, and turns his back on the history of American greatness.

          Bottom line: Alex is a misanthrope, atheist and Bolshevik whose “superstition” involves the true believer worship of the impossible communist utopia. He spits on the nation that protects his right to preach and advocate its downfall.

          In short, he’s one of the evil people who lives on the fringes of civilized society. He has never matured, and is not likely to, ever.

          • Alex

            I’m no atheist or misanthrope.
            Not a Bolshevik, either.
            Oh-for-three there, A-Fraud…..

          • Average_Joe56

            If you say so…but …you’re still an idiot….
            A swing and a hit…and it’s a line drive……….Home Run!

          • Vigilant

            One of the defining characteristics of your type is the propensity to lie. Deny what you want to deny, you’re fooling no one of normal intelligence.

        • Don 2

          I am not a Tea Party member…..but now I will join. +1

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Why would an atheist invoke the name of God? Must be in the process of converting. Why don’t you tell us what is American Exceptionalism? I don’t expect an answer, due to you not knowing the answer. Fortunately, you and your ilk are becomming a dying breed. You are now less than 2% of the world’s population, down from 5% in 1970. Could it be the big explosion in the Christian ranks around the world? Your whole post is nothing but personal attacks, argument to ridicule, and just plain bald faced lies. Here is an article about Obama bin Laden’s family and Obama bin Laden Care.
          http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/10/force-obama-family-join-obamacare/
          If it is so good, then why doesn’t he put his family on it? Doesn’t a leader have to set the example? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
          “A patriot must be a religious man.”
          Thomas Jefferson
          Signer of the Declaration of Independence
          3rd President of the U.S.
          Orthodox Christian

  • Warrior

    With “No-care” you can be absolutely certain, there will be an annual rush to raise the debt ceiling. Oh, let’s give it a try and see it collapse? Don’t think so. Like every other “Fed” program, this baby will be “coddled” and “nurtured” until it is made into a “success”! And the great part about it is, this “baby” will grow up much, much, much larger than “public edumacation”. Our new “unionized” baby boy will become the “endless” money stream only “demonrats” can dream of. It “REALLY” is the end of America as we know it. What an absolute mess the “progressives” have turned this country into. Putting a fence around the WWII Memorial and closing down WH Tours? We’ll “teach” you people a “lesson”! The “demonrats” call this “leadership”? Truly “unbelievable” and “painful” to watch this charade.

  • scott miller

    Liberals taking about constitutional laws and not knowing a single solitary thing about them.

    Congress did not even read the bill, how the hell could they originate the bill?

    Bill fails at being legal, unless you can get a court to rewrite the laws to make it fit.

    • Biff

      Correct me if I’m wrong… but didn’t SCOTUS rule the PP&ACA was legal? It’s hardly a bunch of “activist judges”… it’s actually got a slight Conservative/Republican bias… and they still said it was legal. What am I missing?

      • independent thinker

        The fact that the SC changed the meaning of penalty fee to mean a tax. As a tax it makes the bill illegal because all taxes must originate in the house not the senate.

        • Vigilant

          Correct. The act is not Constitutional law.

      • Vigilant

        What your missing is that Roberts sided with the activist justices Ginsburg, Kagan, Sotomayor and Breyer. That’s HARDLY a ” slight Conservative/Republican bias.”

        Learn who’s on the court and who is Conservative and who is not.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        I think you are in neeeeed of making that popping sound. What are you missing? How about knowledge of the subject at hand and knowing that the SCOTUS has been voting by party and politics for a long time, not going by what is constitutional or not. Here is an article about how the unconstitutional Obama bin Laden Care will affect Christians.
        http://www.zionica.com/2013/10/02/will-obamacare-affect-christians/
        Christians shouldn’t have to pay for something they do not believe in. Enough said. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
        “It is impossible to rightly rule the world without God and the Bible.”
        George Washington
        Founding father
        “Father of our country”
        Commander of the Continental Armies
        1st President of the U.S.
        Devout Christian

  • dan

    call their bluff : NO EXEMPTIONS

  • BTeboe

    You need to take some remedial government classes because you are more than confused.

    • Dave

      Explain please

  • Vigilant

    The sophomoric Dave has a less than a perfect understanding of government.

    You’ll find nothing in the Constitution that prohibits repeal of a law, Constitutional or unconstitutional. Or would you prefer a return to the Fugitive Slave Act since it was put into law by the precise process you outlined above?

    • Dave

      Oh so trying to get people better HC cheaper equates to the Fugitive Slave Act now?

      Well we can now see your level of psychosis.

      If the law is bad, people won’t like it, more GOP gets elected, repeal the law .

      • Vigilant

        “Oh so trying to get people better HC cheaper equates to the Fugitive Slave Act now?”

        Dave, it’s difficult to classify that remark. It’s either (1) a straw man argument (putting words in my mouth), (2) a non sequitur, since the conclusion does not follow the premise, (3) a case of ignorance of logic, (4) failure to read the posting with comprehension, (5) stupidity, or (6) all of the above.

        The correct answer is (6).

        P.S. To answer your question, no, trying to get people better HC cheaper does not equate to the Fugitive Slave Act. Any more stupid questions?

        • Jana

          Actually,So far, you and your liberal Socialists traitors have the market on stupidity… your words.

  • peter

    Someone going to explain to me if I cannot get a job and thus cannot afford to pay for Obamacare, how am I going to find the money to pay the fine for not having cover? Oh, I know I can try to borrow it from one of his banks! Fat chance of that happening so I guess I am just screwed ( again ?).

    • dan

      …been screwed since Nixon…I know exactly how you feel,but ,
      on the brightside , ahem, I think you’ll be poor enough for them
      not to bother with.
      be sure to reach out …people are generally willing to help all that they’re able if they know you need it…especially family

    • Karolyn

      I think it depends on your state. If you are in a state with expanded Medicaid, that can cover you. I’ve also heard there are subsidies for those who can’t afford it. I’m sure there are many in your boat, so there have to be provisions. I’m just glad I’m retired and don’t have to deal with it.

    • Mark

      It’s going to force Christians who appose abortion to enroll and I say no way
      .

  • Karolyn

    They had years to deal with this. Why have the republicans picked now? I heard about a guy who has planned a rafting trip down the Colorado River for 18 years with a bunch of others. They are camping outside the park and may lose a total of about $37,000 and all those years of waiting because of the republicans. People need to start screaming. I already have to my rep.

    • independent thinker

      Republicans? Reed, Obama and the Senate Democrats are the ones who will not compromise.

    • Vigilant

      “They had years to deal with this. Why have the republicans picked now?”

      They’ve attempted to defund all or part of Obamacare over three dozen times since 2010.

    • David Wallace

      Why is anyone accepting this crap? Get in the raft and go down river. F the barrycades and signs. Ignore the imposter-in-chief. Like Nancy said years ago “Just Say No”.

      • Karolyn

        And risk being in jail for his vacation?

    • Vis Fac

      Because Harry Reid has BLOCKED any Republican bills or dialog from being discussed in the senate. And up until now the people have been quiet and apathetic. America bought into ODUMBO so deeply because we have been dumbed down by liberal one dimensional indoctrination camps.

      Fortunately there are enough of us that have a good education and realize the ills and destructiveness of apathy. Nothing changes unless noise is made, until then it’s status-quo.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

    • Robert Messmer

      The Colorado River is not a Water Park ride. They have 1450 miles of river to choose from, really don’t think our broke Government has guards on both sides of the river for over a thousand miles. Go somewhere else and launch. Should be safe from the Coast Guard as they are too busy raiding land locked towns in Alaska.

  • Don 2

    Bill originates in Senate (Uncheck)

  • Truthful

    Just what I wanted to leave as a legacy to my grandchildren. Welcome to the communist country of the usa. Don’t even try to learn to think for yourself…we the government will do that for you. We will help you to get to the grave quickly and with nothing. Freedom??? Your parents sold out that right.
    God bless every believer, because He is the only one to trust.

    • Vigilant

      Dave, please look up “sabotage” in the dictionary. That’s what you, Alex, KG, nc and others of your ilk are attempting to do to the very foundations of our nation.

      • Vis Fac

        DUMB DAVE – KGB – Alex in La LA Land and nc were all dropped on their heads at birth. Other than being products of one dimensional idiot-ology or the products of their indoctrination camps masquerading as public schools there is no other possible explanation for their numbness

        Another possible cause for their malady is they ingested too many drugs or liberal Kool-Aid which destroyed their minuscule supply of epithelial neurons and glial cells.

        They pontificate and abase and belittle others because they believe they are all knowing which is compensation for their poor comprehension skills and lack of knowledge.

        The only people they fool are themselves

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

        • Alex

          Ad hominem nonsense with, AS PER USUAL, nothing to rebut the truth.

          You sad sacks moan and whimper and toss vitriol, but never add anything of substance…

          • Vigilant

            I wouldn’t say that, lamebrain. I gave you a lesson on the Constitution, if you’re man enough to accept it.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Looking in the mirror again, hmm? Here is an article showing how the IRS started going up Dr. Ben Carson’s backside after disagreeing with Obama bin Laden.
            http://www.dailycaller.com/2013/10/01/ben-carson-i-had-my-first-encounter-with-the-irs-following-the-national-prayer-breakfast/
            I guess that Obama bin Laden will crucify a member of the negro race if they are conservative. But alas! The libturds and progturds have been against the negroes since shortly after Thomas Jefferson left office. Just like your ilk. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Better to fight for something than die for nothing.”
            General George S. Patton, Jr.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          The personal attack and argument to ridicule. How can force be a traitor, when he is not the one against our founding fathers, Christian founding principles, and the Constitution, like you and your ilk are? I guess what President Reagan was right when he said, “The problem with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, just that they knoe so much that isn’t so.” Boy was he right about your ilk. Here are 2 articles about Obama bin Laden Care.
          http://www.dailycaller.com/2013/10/01/administration-will-not-release-number-of-obamacare-enrollees-on-opening-day/
          http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/10/01/physicians-prepare-to-deal-with-increased-demand-strain-on-practices-under/
          It seems that Obama bin Laden Care is not what we need. So stop being unamerican. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
          “If a person has the answer and doesn’t know it is just as lost as he who never knew.”
          Samurai
          *Sounds like your traitorous ilk.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      What do you call making our country more socialist and less free? What do you call the ever growing size of government? What do you call having an unconstitutional welfare state that breeds more welfare, more poverty, laziness, decrease in self seficiency, and lack of personal responsibility? Sounds communistic to me, just like you and your ilk. Here is an article about obamacare’s fraudulant navigators.
      http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/2013/10/02/seedco-obamacares-fraudstained-navigators-n1714618/page/full
      What else is new? Everything about this administration is a lie and God is taking his protection from us. Lord help us! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
      “Sometimes by looking back you can see a clearer path to what lies ahead.”
      Samurai

  • Mark

    I could say, better late than never for the Republican’s like Cruz who are new to the Senate and are listening to the people, but it might be too late. There are too many distractions going on now with Obama’s Baby, “Obama Care” to Socialize Medicine unfortunately and we are not moving forward on the Impeachable offenses that Obama has made. Benghazi for one. This was on his and Hillary Clinton’s watch and yet they continue to get away with it when they are guilty as Hell. Why won’t Congress start Impeachment proceedings on this guy? It’s not about skin color because he is half white and he is also a Muslim with a father born in Africa along with Obama himself. He should not even have been able to run for president in the first place. We all know that his Birth Certificate is a fraud just like the rest of him that has been so carefully hidden with the backing of all the corrupt people and money of those like George Soros, etc. Enough is enough. His Marxist Muslim Agenda for tearing OUR COUNTRY apart has gone on for way too long. If you can’t see this by now then there is no hope for you, but as for the rest of us, BE MAD AS HELL AND DON’T PUT UP WITH IT ANYMORE! Tell your state representatives and if they don’t do anything, then when it comes time, Fire Their Asses and get someone new in who will support the people and Our Constitution so we can live in the Democracy we have enjoyed and want for our children like our Founding Fathers and people fought for over 235 years ago.

    • Vigilant

      Conviction on impeachment is a pipe dream until the Senate goes 2/3 Republican. It ain’t gonna happen.

      • mnkysnkle

        Unfortunately your right Vigilant. But………..maybe if the Senate doesn’t impeach they can be served indictments for not doing their duty. Recalling the lot of them might just change their attitude. Some people say that would be very expensive, but look how much it’s cost us already.

  • $13614178

    We need more of the NEW BREED of Republicans the Tea Party is vetting for us . The old school are just that , and they need to be retired .

  • Tuffy Butler

    Ben is right both sides hurt the American people. Just in different ways. The problem is as I see it – most legislators are more concerned about the next election cycle and beyond to get any thing done. The extremism on either side is a rancid dish at best. It seems that the honorable term is virtually extinct with the majority of politicians – and if things don’t change ASAP “We the People” may be next.

  • Vis Fac

    Obama: Boehner only thing keeping government shut down
    By Oliver Knox Yahoo News

    President Barack Obama on Thursday blamed House Speaker John Boehner in unusually personal terms for keeping the government shut down and warned Americans that “you’d get fired” if you acted the way GOP lawmakers have acted in the standoff.

    “If you’re working here, and in the middle of the day you just stopped and said, ‘You know what, I want to get something, but I don’t know exactly what I’m going to get, but I’m just going to stop working till I get something, and I’m going to shut down the whole plant until I get something,’ you’d get fired,” Obama said at the M. Luis Construction Co. in Rockville, Md.

    Force Recon Says: I FIND IT ODD THAT UNIONS ARE ABLE TO HOLD THE GOVERNMENT AND PEOPLE HOSTAGE BY USING THESE VERY SAME TACTICS

    With much of the government shuttered for a third day, Obama ramped up pressure on Boehner to buck tea party “extremists” in his party and bring a clean, short-term spending bill to a vote.

    Force Recon Says: IT IS TYPICAL OF LIBERALS TO AFFIX LABELS AND ASSIGN BLAME TO FURTHER THEIR AGENDA

    “I want everybody to understand this,” the president said. “If the speaker of the House, John Boehner, simply let the bill get on the floor for an up-or-down vote, every congressman could vote their conscience, the shutdown would end today.”

    Force Recon Says: LIKE HARRY REID DOES WITH ALL CONSERVATIVE PROPOSALS?

    “The only thing that is keeping the government shut down — the only thing preventing people from going back to work and basic research starting back up and farmers and small business owners getting their loans — the only thing that’s preventing all that from happening, right now, today, in the next five minutes, is that Speaker John Boehner won’t even let the bill get a yes-or-no vote because he doesn’t want to anger the extremists in his party,” Obama said. That’s all. That’s what this whole thing is about.”

    Force Recon Says: I SUPPOSE ODUMBO’S OMNIPOTENCE AND STUBBORNNESS DOESN’T COME INTO PLAY EITHER. IT’S ALL THE REPUBLICAN’S FAULT NOT HIS OR THE LIBERALS!!!!

    Libertas inaestimabilis res est
    Semper-Fi

    • Robert Messmer

      Did he really say, “every congressman could vote their conscience”? If so, I would love to watch him prove the Reid or Pelosi have a conscience and know what it is.

      • Vis Fac

        Laughable isn’t it?

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

  • tree worm

    i dont understand how the president can blame the gop when Obama said himself he would not change his mind period, so he is taking the ppl hosatage, it is he whom is crippling the uneducated,poor folks that think they dont have any rights,over the parties and president, all it would take is for ppl to learn that they have rights and they can not be infringed upon, could be why the education system is like it is to keep dumbing them down

  • mnkysnkle

    Excellent surmisation Ben. I have a fantasy dream that the next election we will see a large influx of TEA party and independent candidates getting elected. This would put a monkey wrench in the process of corporations donating billions of dollars to both parties who are willing to take bribes. They might even find themselves without an avenue to lobby for special protection, and see their billions of dollars get wasted on the wrong candidates. Maybe it’s just a “wet dream”, but one can still hope.

  • rbrooks

    perhaps you should poll the americans who do not have, and can not get, health care.

    which one of the 535 corrupt crooks in washington are representing them?

    oh i forgot. this site is all about ‘your’ personal liberty and to hell with anyone else.

    • rbrooks

      they are reagan republicans. they are not the old republican (ike) party.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        And the democrats are not the same party of Thomas Jefferson, either. Remember they wanted smaller government and no federal bank? Not like today where they are responsible for us having a large, out of control government and the Federal Reserve. Here is an article showing another company going to the SCOTUS against Obama bin Laden Care.
        http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/09/family-owned-conestoga-wood-specialties-files-lawsuit-against-obamacare-with-supreme-court/
        Hopefully they win like many others have done. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
        “There are no atheists in fox holes.”
        Samurai

        • rbrooks

          what country and what god are you supporting today sammyeye. you will just flee this country if things get tough. just like you did with your last country when you rode the refugee boat to get here.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            SSDD, eh Robbie? I guess you understand what I said about the democrats is true, so you attack me. Nice attempt at duck and cover, but you have failed miserably. Look who is talking about fleeing the country, one living in Canada. You really stepped on yourself this time. Here is an article about Obama bin Laden Care.
            http://www.weaselzippers.us/2013/10/02/report-less-than-1-of-visitors-to-obamacare-exchange-websites-are-signing-up-for-health-insurance/
            Here is one where Boehner is finally showing some guts.
            http://www.thehill.com/homenews/administration/326257-no-sign-of-shutdown-ending-after-white-house-meeting
            Go Boehner go! Keep up the good fight against Obama bin Laden and his paid schills. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
            “True Christians are assured that no temptation (or trial) shall happen to them but what they shall be enabled to bear; and that the grace of Christ shall be sufficient for them.”
            Roger Sherman
            Signer of the Declaration of Independence
            Signer of the Constitution
            “Master Builder of the Constitution”
            Judge
            Framer of the Bill of Rights
            U.S. Senator
            Devout Christian

          • rbrooks

            another lie eh sammyeye. how many id’s do you post under.

            you tried this before. i am not robbie.

            but i do belong to sars. something you will never be able to do.

    • Robert Messmer

      They also don’t count for the Democrats…..check it out still going to be millions and millions of American citizens who are not going to be able to have health insurance.

      • Motov

        And millions who do have insurance, will watch their rates sky rocket,…. so much for the “affordable” part of Obozocare,… And watch the “quality health care” turn into something that doesn’t resemble quality.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Argument to ridicule. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Argument to ridicule. Here is an article showing how CBS lied about poll results dealing with Obama bin Laden Care.
      http://www.lastresistance.com/3300/cbss-bob-schieffer-polls-show-americans-favor-obamacare/
      Looks like the MSM is in bed with Obama bin Laden. Along with his gay lovers. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
      “Once a person is touched with power, they are never quite the same again.”
      Samurai
      *This sounds like the Indonesian citizen in the White House.

    • Nick

      Your right. My rights trump your sob story.

      • rbrooks

        what rights? you mean the rights you demand and deny everyone else?

        • Nick

          My God given rights enumerated in the Bill of rights by our founding fathers. Those rights. The same ones everyone else was given by God and everyone else enjoys.

          • rbrooks

            you mean the god given right to own slaves? to treat women as property? to kill anyone your god disapproves of ?

            some of those folks are not going to have any rights under your particular version.

          • Nick

            That would be your version. You leftists are the ones so obsessed with controlling ideology and slavery.

          • rbrooks

            it is your bible and your god.

          • Nick

            My God is a loving and forgiving God. I am sure he would forgive you too if you just asked. No reason to be angry, just ask forgiveness.

          • rbrooks

            your loving god that commanded slavery, chattel property and the deaths of all who refused to believe in him.

            you want the slaves to ask forgiveness for being created a slave. after all, it is their god given right to be a slave.

          • Nick

            Democrats held slaves, not God. I know it must be a burden to carry all that hate. Just ask forgiveness and accept God into your heart, he will help you carry that burden and that hatred will melt away.

          • rbrooks

            lol. god is a democrat then. where does that leave you.

          • Nick

            Same place I was in the beginning. Trying to talk sense to a willfully ignorant fool.

          • rbrooks

            it takes a willing ignorant fool to try and sell slavery to the slaves.

            it requires an equally willingly ignorant fool to follow mythology.

            you seem to be a good fit.

          • Nick

            Yet you are the one who carries all that burdensome hate and I am the one living a happy life.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Well said and good debate against a traitor. Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. I like the cat picture. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • rbrooks

            oh look. our boat refugee has washed ashore again.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Argument to ridicule. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.

          • rbrooks

            you are a bit ridiculous.

            what country are you a patriot of. certainly not the one you fled from. you have done nothing in this country but hold your hand out.

            which god are you referring to.

          • rbrooks

            what hate? i am glad that you are happy that ahca was passed.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            No one I know of is happy it was forced through Congress and the Senate. Stop your lying and misdirection.. But alas! You seem to be void of the mental faculties of knowing to tell the truth. Nick is right as you are full of hate and yourself. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.

          • rbrooks

            nick said he is living a happy life.

            you are still a boat refugee who fled from his country.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I see you are quoting the Koran again. Thou shaly not bear false witness against thy neighbor, atheist. You said the Bible says so? Then I challenge you to post where it says so book, chapter, and verse. I know you’ll try to do a duck and cover movement, but we both know you are lying. You and your ilk are traitors to this country, our Christian founding fathers, and our Christian founding, so just stay up there in Canada for we do not need you here. Here is something about the reasoning for the shutdown.
            http://www.redstate.com/2013/10/02/this-is-about-shutting-down-obamacare/
            You neeeeed to go back to church and study about how the democrats were the ones that spread slavery across America, were against civil rights for negroes, and passed laws making it impossible for negroes to vote across the South. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “None but God can satisfy the longings of the immortal soul; as the heart was made for him, he only can fill it.”
            Richard Chevenix Trench

    • Motov

      “Personal Liberty” has given you choices,..
      Obozo will jail and fine you if you do not do what he wants.
      Nick is right,…. My bill of rights trumps your socialized society.

      • rbrooks

        what personal liberty.

        • Motov

          The part that says liberty to pursue happiness.
          Obozo wants to rip us off our hard earned fruits of labor, and give it to those who done nothing to earn anything.

  • Motov

    I hope that “Obozo-bots” wake up and see Obozo for what he is,..

    • Nick

      Don’t hold your breath.