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  • Al Chemist

    Do not worry If you are a liberal/commie/democrat. The IRS only went after conservatives and conservative organizations. The NSA will probably do the same.

  • Oldmonkey

    Mike Rogers, R-Mich. is an idiot to think people reveal more information about themselves when they mail a letter than what the U.S NSA collects. When you mail a letter only thing available basically is location of the post office it is mailed from. Envelopes and stamps can be purchased in a high density zip code, as can the electronic typewriter for cash, wearing gloves. There is no reason to suspect every nearby mail box has a surveillance camera, and even if it does a hoodie, mask, and other disguises won’t make you more anonymous or invisible.

    With a cellphone even when you turn off your Broadband, GPS and other cellphone location devices, you can be tracked, and your routine traced by cell towers by cellphone number. Once you turn on your Broadband; BINGO! Association is made between Internet and YOU! If you hide yourself with a VPN, they know it; all you have done is make it more difficult, and more expensive to track. Until there is a Dictator who to his chagrin won’t be Obama, regardless of his greedy desire and obsession to be King. Obama’s objective being power hungry will be to force one of his daughters to marry the king. For now it will afford privacy, but don’t expect it to last.

    Home broadband provides more protection, but not much if you are already on their radar. Your more likely demise is an opened Email which may be from a friend or acquaintance’s computer with a keystroke capturing virus. A Linux OS is probably a stronger defense, but no promises. Your home phone even with VPN is vulnerable isn’t secure unless your service is overseas; it is just harder to get at which if you have their attention, costs time and taxpayer dollars they are willing to spend

    If you decide to get a VPN, check for whether the provider “Logs” HIde My Ass, and several other keep logs and flip them to NSA. Others presently don’t because at least for now there is no law requiring it (Don’t expect it to last long)
    VOIP with a VPN today certainly isn’t secure if it is provided by a major US cable, telco, or satellite provider. Long term, try to find one overseas in a country that won’t roll easy.

    • rwdodgerblue

      My cellphone is one of the older ones. It doesn’t have any bells and whistles on it. Just a simple phone. Can they still track it?

      • Oldmonkey

        You can be tracked cell site to cell site, and your whereabouts predicted. You give up your 4th Amendment rights when you turn your phone on. Smart phones are worse, especially when you turn on Broadband and turn on the G.P.S. If you are hated, you can be “Droned”

        • rwdodgerblue

          Thanks!

          • Oldmonkey

            Just wait to see what’s in store! Already police are driving around taking pictures of license plates linked to databases. Soon your new car will have a black box attached to who knows what in addition to being able to be disabled by the police & hackers.

          • rwdodgerblue

            Good thing I can’t afford a new car!

          • Oldmonkey

            If not they will find another way to snoop on you

          • rwdodgerblue

            I’m sure they will! But right now I feel fairly safe. I live in a small ranching/farming community. Plus, I live out in the boonies about 28 miles from town with only a few good neighbors. The nearest big city is 145 miles away. So for now I think I’m good, but time will tell for how long.

  • Oldmonkey

    Mike Rogers, R-Mich. is an idiot to think people reveal more information about themselves when they mail a letter than what the U.S NSA collects. When you mail a letter only thing available basically is location of the post office it is mailed from. Envelopes and stamps can be purchased in a high density zip code, as can the electronic typewriter for cash, wearing gloves. There is no reason to suspect every nearby mail box has a surveillance camera, and even if it does a hoodie, mask, and other disguises won’t make you more anonymous or invisible.

    With a cellphone even when you turn off your Broadband, GPS and other cellphone location devices, you can be tracked, and your routine traced by cell towers by cellphone number. Once you turn on your Broadband; BINGO! Association is made between Internet and YOU! If you hide yourself with a VPN, they know it; all you have done is make it more difficult, and more expensive to track. Until there is a Dictator who to his chagrin won’t be Obama, regardless of his greedy desire and obsession to be King. Obama’s objective being power hungry will be to force one of his daughters to marry the king. For now it will afford privacy, but don’t expect it to last.

    Home broadband provides more protection, but not much if you are already on their radar. Your more likely demise is an opened Email which may be from a friend or acquaintance’s computer with a keystroke capturing virus. A Linux OS is probably a stronger defense, but no promises. Your home phone even with VPN is vulnerable isn’t secure unless your service is overseas; it is just harder to get at which if you have their attention, costs time and taxpayer dollars they are willing to spend

    If you decide to get a VPN, check for whether the provider “Logs” HIde My Ass, and several other keep logs and flip them to NSA. Others presently don’t because at least for now there is no law requiring it (Don’t expect it to last long)
    VOIP with a VPN today certainly isn’t secure if it is provided by a major US cable, telco, or satellite provider. Long term, try to find one overseas in a country that won’t roll easy.

  • Oliver_K_Manuel

    They collect information on US citizens because they are afraid for violating the US Constitution and the first ten amendments – the Bill of Rights.

    1. Fear of nuclear annihilation, and

    2. Remorse for having killed hundreds of thousands of innocent citizens in Hiroshima and Nagasaki on 6 & 9 Aug 1945

    Convinced world leaders and leaders of the scientific community to

    3. Save the world and themselves from death by nuclear annihilation

    4. Take control of all humans by forming the UN on 24 Oct 1945 and

    5. Hide information on energy in cores of atoms, planets, stars and galaxies.

    Here’s the rest of the story:

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10640850/Creator_Destroyer_Sustainer_of_Life.pdf

    They will not succeed, but they are no more evil than you or me. They have many talents that will be needed to operate society after constitutional limits are restored.

    Society desperately needs wise leadership now, like the former leaders of South Africa that ended apartheid without destroying the government.

    With kind regards,
    - Oliver K. Manuel
    Former NASA Principal
    Investigator for Apollo

  • confuzzed

    Anything else we should be worried about then, or is that all?

    • billybob

      Great name you gave yourself.

  • Jurgy

    Folks who say “so what, all my conversations are boring anyway” do not appreciate the concept of privacy as written in the Constitution, nor the employer/employee relationship we have with the government – and that as our employees, we should be listening in on the government’s phones.

    • CatGman

      “We The People” are no longer their employers. We are their subjects.

      • billybob

        NO! We’ve become we the enemy!

  • An Old Seabee

    The only way to INSURE your can’t be tracked is to REMOVE THE BATTERY.