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Wisconsin Bull

October 5, 2011 by  

Wisconsin Bull

A Wisconsin judge has ruled that people in that State have no “fundamental right” to consume any food, own or use dairy cows or consume the milk their cows produce, without government permission.

The ruling from Judge Patrick J. Fiedler was in response to a suit filed by the Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund on behalf of Zinniker Family Farm and several other farms against the Wisconsin Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection.

Wisconsin is one of the most restrictive States in the nation where the consumption of raw milk is concerned. Raw milk sales are prohibited, but private cow share agreements (where people purchase shares of their own cows) are exempted.

A copy of the judge’s ruling can be read here. On page four the judge writes:

  • “Plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to own and use a dairy cow or a dairy herd.”
  • “Plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to consume the milk from their own cow.”
  • “Plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to board their cow at the farm of a farmer.”
  • “Plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to produce and consume the foods of their choice.”

This ruling begs the question: What country does this fascist judge think he lives in?

Hat tip:

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • Vicki

    The Judge writes:
    ““Plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to produce and consume the foods of their choice.””

    Let us then feed the judge just bread and water. After all WE are the government and he is a servant so lets see how he likes it.

    • Ted Crawford

      I agree Vicki! John Jay seemingly forsaw something like this and spoke out against it “The Law is intended to serve the people, not the people to serve the law”

      • Jeffrey A. Williams

        Here Here Ted! BTW it Jon Jay not John Jay.

    • lkar

      What is ironic is that you cannot consume your own milk, but you are entitled to your own sexual preference. I would venture that this same judge would be against any government intrusion ito homosexual rights, abortion rights, and illegal alien rights!

      • Rusticus

        You are incapable of understanding the simplest distinctions. You should have your keepers read you less complicated material.

        • http://F.B. john

          it appears that you cannot cnnect the dots.old west justice should be meted out here.this judge is ruling by the communist manifesto.

          • karel Eekels

            and to make it worse, he is getting paid for it in addition by the people of Wisconsin!

      • http://personallibertydigest michael

        Where did this judge come from… The USSR? Can’t drink my home made milk but I can sleep with any person I wish….. What BS…. Legalize fagets and lesbian to get mairred but not allow to drink ur own milk…. Them queers should help us with our freedom being infringed on….

    • Jeff

      Don’t give him bread the contents is grown by farmers.

    • Lost in Paradise

      I bet he would eat lead reeeal nice!

    • Thomas B

      No let’s not even give him bread and water. Let’s have him ask we the people for permission to eat, and then seize his assets as a communist fruitcake, then put him in prison and let him starve to death. That’s what the mutant activist judges and politicians have in mind for us once they have taken over completely and start burning us Christians in the furnaces. That is truly what we are up against unfortunately…they are just creeping along incrementally. It wouldn’t be a crime to do this to him. It’s going to be kill or be killed.

      • eddie47d

        Paranoia at it’s finest Thomas. “Christians burned at the stake”. Historically it was Christians who were burning other Christians they disagreed with. Should rules be relaxed on milk and dairy products for personal consumption? Yes I believe so as long as there is a disclaimer on the product that you eat or drink and do so at your own risk. The same with any food,beer,vitamins(herbal)that you grow or consume on your own or are willing to sell. Like any product buyer beware and it should be packaged to say so. We had a Listeria outbreak in this country and 20 have died and about 200 are still sick so will those farmers take responsibility for making one sick if they allow someone to consume a bad product? Pasteurized/Homogenized products should remain in all supermarkets to protect the consumer and the business.

        • Kat

          If the farmers are responsible for the listeria outbreak then maybe car makers should be responsible for all traffic accidents, ladder makers should be responsible for everyone who falls off, liquor distillers should be responsible for every drunk..well, you get the idea. I do not believe in willful negligence but I often wonder where these food borne outbreaks really originate. Obviously, the listeria didn’t grow on the food. Who put it there? That is what we need to ask. I also think, before we go hog wild finger pointing at the farmer’s responsibility to protect the consumer, we need to assess actual risk. The three things I mentioned cause FAR more deaths than tainted lettuce, milk, melons, etc. Yet the government isn’t pulling out all the stops to “protect” us from those evils. Look at legal drugs and our hospital care. How many deaths are caused by those entities. Is anyone shutting them down? I think we need to ask why the frenzy concerning raw milk and why the attack on the “little guy”.

          • Searcher

            What is the big fuss about raw milk? Hell I drank it from birth until I was 18, sometimes direct from the cow. I’m 76 now and in good health. And buy shares in your own cow? What kind of BS is this? The original cows in a farmers herd were most likely purchased, and then the herd was expanded through breeding, and now to consume the milk, or meat from that cow he has to buy it again. Who the hell does he have to pay, himself? One of the most ridiculous decisions I have ever seen handed down by a judge.

        • Thomas B

          We shouldn’t have the right to consume the foods of our choice without governmnet permission? And you agree with that? This is the socialist/communist vine creeping into our lives, as is their custom, to be incrementally snaeky. It has not to do with Christian paranoia, but anyone who is a Cgristian in this day and age knows quite well that we are the targets for elimination by the commie/gay/occult/mutants who push for the new world order. The new world order is/will be run by the gay/communist/occultists simliar to the nazis. This is how it is, not paranoia; and I’m helping to get the word out because alot of the innocent don’t know that the enemy is on attack throughout our system..I’m especially telling them to watch for creeps like you who will try to disuade them from recognizing the enemy. I won’t be able to stop us…you are born to fail.

        • Karolyn

          But those who choose to drink raw milk should have thr right to do so. I am sure most of the population would not. Eeeew! Right out of the cow?? I know people who will not eat eggs straight from the chicken! They will only eat them from the grocery store. Figure that one out!

        • metalflyer11

          Pasteurization & Homogenization to keep products safe? You say this because the FDA says so? Better educate yourself about what these processes do to food, especially milk.

          • Pippen

            Pasteurization & Homogenization to keep products safe? You say this because the FDA says so? Better educate yourself about what these processes do to food, especially milk.

            Well for one thing, the processes take all the natural vitamins and minerals out of the milk then what do they do? Replace them with synthetic vitamins and minerals.. Go figure.

        • MNIce

          Umm, eddie47d, Christians were first burned at the stake by pagan emperors in Rome. Haven’t you heard the etymology of “Roman candle”?

          I do agree that it is a bit of a stretch to go from usurping raw judicial power over slurping raw milk to persecuting Christians. (The usurping and slurping are both potentially dangerous, but the former is far worse than the latter because it cannot be mitigated by simple sanitation.)

        • DeJay

          We have a rotten self serving government. Pastuerization destroys the Life Force of most if not all liquids and makes them dead food. Add to that the genetically modified produce which if only is making farmers forced to buy their seed from Monsanto. Then some foods are radiated which also make them dead food. Can you read between the lines?? They’re trying to make us sick and die so the drug companies can thrive. The judge is blantly a communist and needs to be stripped of his power like a previous comment about the judge eating lead.

    • Kate8

      Vicki – What would logically follow this judges words are that we “don’t have the fundamental right to life”.

      The right to healthful food, water and essentials of life, and our ability to acquire and sustain these things through our own labor, comes from our very existence upon this Earth, from Creator, and not from any puffed-up, self-proclaimed little demi-god who sold his soul to the schoolyard bully because he’s holding the biggest stick…

      How long are we going to keep bowing to a system which has utterly turned on us? Do we really think we can enter the courts of the enemy and find justice?

      • William L Collins

        this judge need’s to be disbared tired feathered and put out of this country and sent to CHINA he and all the reast that feels the same way my great grand parents drank raw milk made there own raw butter rasied trere own meat and butcherd it cured it raised there own vegtiables caned them and they hardly ever was sick and lived to be 100 years old and worked and lived off the farm products they even made there own flour corn meal sorghum they where up at 5am every morning fed the teams got them ready to start work milked the cows that was 7days a week whent to bed around 9’30pm or 10pm and died in there sleep now all we got are people that can’t live with out stores

    • Handyman

      Vicki, why the bread he does not have the right even to water, unless the government (WE THE PEOPLE) gives it to him? I would not give him the time of day! Lock him up, he is insane!

      • Handyman

        I remember when this was a free country, without communist and muslim, influence!

        • bob wire

          Oh? when was that? When you was a busboy at the last supper?

        • Dale

          AMEN to that …is this judges last name obomma, or maybe moussellini, no I got it must be either Kagan or sotomiore? more no mind little dictators trying to take our constitutional rights away–again. far as I am concerned that can kiss my cow

    • MNIce

      I suggest we let the judge live on gulag soup for a while. I understand it was very fashionable in eastern Siberia between 1918 and 1991.

      Gulag soup recipe:
      1 head of cabbage
      40 liters of water

      Heat water to boiling. Throw in cabbage and cook until tender. Take out the cabbage and feed it to the guards. Everybody else gets one bowl of soup apiece.

    • Norman from Michigan

      This should be advertised in the Judge’s local newspaper and any other public journal in his jourisdiction every day starting 4 weeks before the next election for that Judge’s position. The voters will get him out for sure.

    • Vic Bailey

      We have to get rid of these Socialist asses before they start charging us to breathe! In Utah I heard that it is illegal to collect rainwater? How much more are the American people going to take until we clean house from the local all the way up to the federal crooks that are destroying our Constitution and our rights? NOW, would be fine with me! Semper Fi.

    • Linda

      Talk about conspiracy. It’s blatant now. About feeding the judge bread and water Ah no!!!! Bread is produced, ONLY WATER!!!!! And he should count his blessings.

    • Nancy Campbell


  • Karolyn

    I just got an email from ANH-USA about this. Here is the link. They have a link to send your views to Wisconsin lawmakers.

    This is totally unconstitutional. I think this judge has a screw loose. The people of Wisconsin really need to organize around this.

    • Karolyn

      Oh, too bad, the link for response is for Wisconsin residents. I certainly hope any readers from Wisconsin will use it.

      • libertytrain

        I did see a few comments on the net that he is a Democrat – I am not absolutely certain – it’s hard to find the basics on him with all the publicity out there right how – but A Dane County Judge in Wisconsin — most likely a Democrat — :)

    • Dale

      Karolyn, This Judge doesn’t have a screw loose, All his screws are missing

      • Bruce

        Hi Dale,

        No in fact this judge is ruling on what I keep telling all of you, he has not only the right to make such a rule he can also make any ruling he wants.

        “”The Constitution has not been in use in over 150 years.”” 1860 / 1868 / 1871.

        If you all want to fix the problem’s we face, as many of you ask well how do we fix it? >> Its very simple;<<
        ""REPEAL the 14th Amendment"" as it makes you a Slave to the state of the "Corporation of DC."
        If you all would please explore this, and this is the hard part you must "COMPRHEND" what the 14th Amendmebt means, then you would all understand that {the Constitution nor the Bill or Rights applies to YOU.}

        • Kate8

          Bruce – Good luck. Who is Congress is going to step forward and push to repeal the 14th Amendment?

          If it was an illegal Act in the first place, then it is null and void, right? Are we bound by illegal, unConstitutional Acts of Congress just because they say so? I would seem that most people believe that we are. But that would put us at the mercy of a government that is supposed to be limited…by…US. Meaning, they are ALL POWERFUL.

          Does any of this make sense to anyone? What if we, as a PEOPLE, declare our right and intention to ignore and void all ACTS and STATUTES which are unauthorized by SUPREME LAW and therefore cannot bind us?

          Perhaps we should all turn in our SS#s and declare our intention to end our slavery to DC and live free and sovereign. Sure, they’ll probably send in troops (UN troops, at that), but they are going to do that, anyway, at some point because we’ve given ourselves over to them by our compliance.

  • Cannon 12pounder

    Sounds like the judge needs a little fertilizer around his home to grow his own food. I would not sell him any. About 10foot high surrounding his place should do the trick.

  • http://none Houston Williams

    Pathetic, but please remember that while your article castigates the judge, as it certainly should, you
    have to ask “WHY” does this man comport himself this way? Is it just possible that he is serving the
    interests of the milk industry, which in turn presumes to control the government and the courts to do
    their dirty work? I dont presume to know the answer to this but my suspicions run very high. If Ameicans
    don’t roll up their sleeves and clean out the rot, the country won’t be worth a brass farthing. Very, very
    sad. I was born into a free country in 1938. Where did it go?????? H Williams

    • Lost in Paradise

      Now that is a damn good question.

    • LES

      The people just voted it away little by little. The politicians are doing what you voted for them to do

  • Ken

    Let them eat cake!

    • Bob Johnson

      thank you marie

      • Kate8

        Bob – Actually, Marie Antoinette never actually said that.

        It was a lie spread by the Illuminati (the same Freemasonic bunch who now control money and governments) to help initiate the French Revolution, toppling the monarchy in order to gain control for themselves.

    • Lastmanstanding

      over 45 million individuals in this country already are…it’s called food stamps, ebt, welfare, wic…the usa is headed down the roman path.

      i can’t wait till they start ripping dollars in half or notching the edges to save the paper…

  • Lorraine

    Just don’t drink cow milk at all. Cows milk is for baby cows – NOT humans. Read “The China Study” by T. Colin Campbell, Ph.D.
    Even my granddaughter’s pediatrician told us she did not need cows milk.

    • weederwoman

      Do you not use milk to bake with, to make gravy, to eat cereal, etc., etc. Besides, people should have the “fundamental right” to grow and use their own food.

      • George M. Steffens

        The people who make the laws, and who enforce the laws do not feel compelled to obey them. Therefore, why should we? They only exist in those positions to “protect” us. It is out duty to ignore bad laws and decisions.

    • Gerald T. Reid

      Lorraine, for the sake of your child, do some homework, you’ll have a healthier family.

      Get Money Out
      Add your name to our petition to Get Money Out of Politics.

      Gerry Reid
      We can neutralize the “Greedy Bastards” by removing money from the process. This would solve fund raising problems, lobbyists having to to pay for influence, PACS, corporations buying influence, free up legitimate legislatures to stop spending 80% of their time having to raise money to be re-elected, etc. 94% of candidates who raise the most money are re-elected, and these are usually incumbent…s. Lets level the playing field and give the opportunity to people who will legislate and SERVE.

      Amendment to US Constitution.

      “No person, corporation or business entity of any type, domestic or foreign, shall be allowed to contribute money, directly or indirectly, to any candidate for Federal office or to contribute money on behalf of or opposed to any type of campaign for Federal office. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, campaign contributions to candidates for Federal office shall not constitute speech of any kind as guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution or any amendment to the U. S. Constitution. Congress shall set forth a federal holiday for the purposes of voting for candidates for Federal office.”

      • Teyha

        Gerald, You’re off to the right start. However, how about for every dollar a union, corporation, non-profit organization…. gives to a candidate they must give the same amount to the Federal Govt. for use to bring down the debt or maybe first pay back the IOU’s to SS and the PO. Maybe we should make it for every dollar spent pay back two dollars? Either they stop giving or our debt is paid quickly. Maybe we should charge the candidate the same. You take money from the above, you pay the same to the government. This way normal people can run for office.

      • MNIce

        “Get the money out” – that’s just about the most counterproductive amendment I have ever seen! Only the very wealthy (e. g., George Soros) could run for office under that scheme. And don’t even get started with “public financing”. That gives the bureaucrats the opportunity to control who runs and how they campaign. It wouldn’t take long for the bureaucrats to figure out they can pick the candidates most likely to cave in to their government employees’ union!

        If you want to reduce the influence of money on politics, you must first reduce the influence of politics on money. If we didn’t have politicians or judges usurping power that doesn’t belong to them, we wouldn’t have people thinking it useful to bribe them. After all, nobody will waste a bribe on someone who can’t do what the briber wants.

      • DeJay

        A few days ago Obummer came to California to raise campaign funds. To attend the meeting, tickets were $7500 and the dinner was $800. Now who could afford that but the rich and they will expect and receive favors for their contributions. It seems insane that Obummer has any suppoort from the Democrats. The Democrats must have been bought or are communists.

    • Bob Livingston

      Dear Lorraine,

      Your are correct that you should not consume pasteurized milk. It is a dead food. Raw milk however, a staple in the human diet for thousands of years, is an excellent food that provides helpful bacteria, helps to build natural immunity to allergens and contains the helpful bone-forming enzyme alkaline phosphatase.

      Best wishes,

      • Sheldon

        I grew up drinking raw milk and it is fine. Not sure why more americans do not have a cow in their back yard along with chickens and a few goats. they would eliminate the need to mow the lawn. I have been really surprised that the EPA has not eliminated the use of mechanized lawn mowers.

      • eddie47d

        Okay Bob Livingston no argument with you about pasteurizing milk but since you do defend business interests what should they do to keep their products safe and transportable? What about shelf life for dairy products within a supermarket? Can whole fresh milk stay safe from lets say salmonella while sitting in a grocery cooler and for how long?

        • Bob Livingston

          Dear eddie47d,

          You write: “…but since you do defend business interests what should they do to keep their products safe and transportable?” What I defend, sir, is freedom and the free market. What I oppose is too much government regulation.

          For answers to your questions about raw milk, go here:

          Best wishes,

          • eddie47d

            Thanks for the answers Bob

          • http://None LBRTLVR

            thank you so very much for that link! :)

            whatever the pros and cons are, i am one who is all for the freedom for a person to make their own choices … to choose whether or not they want to find the answers and weigh the consequences, whether perceived good or bad for their own selves. sadly, too many people in this country have given up their ability to think and choose for their own selves. this has allowed too many others to think and choose for them to the point that mass deception reigns and even common sense barely exists for them, if at all … resulting in freedoms usurped and lost. holy yyyyyyIKEs, batman!

            very sad state of affairs. my hat is off to all who love and support true liberty and freedom! :)

      • Carol J

        I am allergic to cow’s milk, so I grew up on goat’s milk and (Yuckee) soya milk. Of course this would be illegal in Wisconsin since the goats belonged to my uncle who was also allergic to cow’s milk. His goats were cleaned, and the equipment for milking sterilized after each milking. I can’t stand the goats milk they sell in stores today. It tastes terrible. And also, can anyone tell me why they homogenize goat’s milk??? It comes from the goat already homogenized.

      • frank

        well, if I remember, raw milk killed Abe Lincoln’s mommy’s called milk fever .. it can also transmit e. coli.. typhoid… typhus … and many other fun-filled ways of going down the tube to apainful and suffering death i

        • Disgusted

          That is true, but when was the last time you heard of someone dying from drinking raw milk – oh yeah Abe Lincoln’s Mom – and how long ago was that. However front page today is news about people dying from eating cantalope – lets ban those! You dope.

          • bobambi

            Organic Pastures dairy in California, which since 1999 has sold 40 million servings of raw milk and raw milk products without one reported illness. California in the same period experienced at least 20 recalls of pasteurized milk products.

        • bobambi

          Actually Frank.. there is little known about the reason Abe Lincolns mother died and yes many said it was “milk fever” but the milk fever then was thought to be caused by toxic plants fed to the cow. If I am not mistaken pasurization will not fix that.

    • Sheldon

      Yea right. Mares(horse) milk is sweeter. Goats milk is creamier, Mothers milk is not in great abundance but is better. The problem is getting women to lactate enough to replace all the milk needed.

      • Sheldon

        I also heard that men can lactate too so they would not feel left out.

      • Supershell

        And it comes in such attractive containers!

    • Kate8

      Lorraine – Whether or not we need cow’s milk is not the issue.

      If we keep bowing to this kind of tyranny, it will never end until we are all dead.

      Our entire food supply is being corrupted. We cannot drink pure water unless we clean it ourselves. We are being told what we can and cannot do in relation to every aspect of our lives, our children’s lives…ALL of our choices are being taken from us and being declared to us by government.

      What if they declared to you that you MUST serve adulterated milk to your children? Would you be so blase about it then?

  • John Roane

    People rise up and take back your state and force these judges out and any other politician who supports them, and that is your right under the US Constitution. If you feel the judges are in the pocket of the milk industry don’t buy any milk from that industry as well.

    • Lost in Paradise

      I’m from Wisconsing, and most there are dems. It is like a police state.

  • steven

    If this judge is elected the people Wisconsin need to vote him out.
    If this is an appointed judge then I feel like we are all in trouble.
    Whatever happened to government serving the people not the people serving the government?

  • Joop Ketellapper

    I am a european from the Netherlands, a small but big dairy country and also dominated by the farm industry. BUT we have our own freedom and responsebility to consume raw milk and raw milk products. These are full of essential healthy foodstuffs in stead of the dead pasturised products from the factories ! It is a shame for the USA to have such a Wisconsin gouvernement.

    • Jeryl

      The problem with our country is that we have a government that is in bed with special interests – every big industry from coast to coast. There are very, very few politicians at any level of government, from local to national, that truly care about the people they govern. In addition, common sense in American government is the rarest of commodities.

    • mickey

      I think that many Europeans are seeing the plight of the US. Hopefully, and we are begging, European countries will continue to fight buying any GM products, seeds, food, etc, and make it to the international news. Only then will we see a change here in the US.

      Even little Haiti with their starving people refused US GM food. BM corn has just about destroyed Mexico’s corn crops. France outlawed GM products because the bees disappeared.

      We may not need bombs and military support from the EU but we surely need support for the food supply.

    • Lost in Paradise

      It is not just Wisconsin, it is the entire country and the government.

  • tom b409

    Wisconsin milk laws were established to protect consumers of milk from a host of diseases passed from cows milk to children. Roll back progress 100 years, then Cry ” Foul Loudly” when your children are dying. Study history not hysterics!

    • johnny

      Sorry your argument of Dying Children is ridiculous. People have been consuming milk for centuries and it has not caused any problems in the general population. There are those who due to their own body chemistry do not consume dairy products, but overall it is healthy to humans. If Your argument were plausible aour streets would be filling up with dead children……… scare tactic!

      • Bob G

        Me, my brothers, and all our friends were raised on raw milk in the 50s and 60s. No one died.

    • Disgusted

      People all over this country are drinking raw milk and have been for years. I haven’t heard anything about dying or sick people from it’s consumption. Maybe you should be standing on your podium screaming about cantelope!
      It is my right to choose what I want to drink and what I don’t. I choose to not drink soda and haven’t had one in over 20 years. I would rather they outlaw soda than raw milk – it would certainly make more sense.
      This isn’t about raw milk – the heart of this argument should be that the government is taking away your right to choose! They should not have the right to tell you what you can and can’t drink!

    • combat seabee

      The only reason cows milk would be harmful to people is because through government overreach, they have managed to debilitate our immune systems from which they were designed to work. Read the stats fool, even the use of all these hygenic,(?) bacteriacide hand washes have killed of the beneficial bacteria that we need to have a healthy immune system and combat the harmful ones.
      I grew upon a farm not a grocery store and the raw milk never hurt us children or our parents or our relatives who came for the summers to live on the farm. The problem is, we live not with “Mother Nature” but in concrete and brick superstores which have taken over our lives and bodies. How many toxins do you think you eat everyday even without you fear of raw milk? It will scare you fool!!!

      • Norman from Michigan

        Combat Seabee has a point about raw milk. As I also have grown up on a farm with milk cows I agree that raw milk is safe to consume. But we on the farm also know when it is fresh and kept refridgerated. We also would have to get our milk cows certified by a veternarian to sell or consume the product. Therefore it is fresh and safe to consume. When it gets old we would discard it. I was watching a 20/20 type show that exposed the lack of refrigeration and freshness in our food transportation. Reefers (refridgerated semi trucks) not being turned on. Perishable food in semi trailers standing to be unloaded for hours, unsafe temperature levels in transport, etc. The industry does not keep close enough attention or control on the products you and I consume and bacteria etc. enter our food chain.

    • lkar
      • independant thinker

        Thanks for the link Ikar. I was going to look for it myself when I ran accross your post.

        EVERYONE should read the article whether you are pro raw milk or anti raw milk.

      • http://None LBRTLVR

        thanx for another great site link! OMG! i got lost on that site! LOL so many great articles! recipes! DIY articles and links! very helpful, interesting and practical. :)

    • Jeryl

      If you comment wasn’t so pitiful and erroneous, it would be laughable. Say, do you work for the milk industry?

    • libertytrain

      it seems with all these laws on the books to protect us from unhealthy foods, people are still dying… what was it last week? Cantaloupes ?? All the rules in the world don’t seem to be protecting us very well… And the milk is no longer good old-fashioned milk – not with all the additives –

      • independant thinker

        And I believe it was yesterday I saw something about a big Romain lettuce recall for contamination.

      • okayfoods

        its the Mexican’s pissing on your food unclean handling or just natures animals playing with cantelopes like raccons etc. deer wild hogs in the fields

    • SmartAlice

      If people washed their hands, bacteria wouldn’t get into the milk, thus negating the reason for pasteurization. Raw milk is a healthy and safe food for consumption, and in our modern times of vast knowledge you’d think people would know how to wash their hands. That’s where the transference of impurities come from. Now go wash your hands and keep the good food clean.

      • Karolyn

        Well, you do have to make sure the cows are clean and disease-free as well.

      • okayfoods

        every person milking a cow teats always wash them usually a iodine solutions common sense city slickers

    • Karolyn

      Do a little research my friend!

    • bobambi

      Wisconsin milk laws are in place to protect big business… pasturisation only extends the shelf life of milk… not make it safer. Homogenized milk is not good for anything…
      Organic Pastures dairy in California, which since 1999 has sold 40 million servings of raw milk and raw milk products without one reported illness. California in the same period experienced at least 20 recalls of pasteurized milk products.

  • Pilot

    This judge’s ruling is unenforceable and should just be ignored and disregarded. Is he going to send government thugs to each and every dairy farm to make sure no one is consuming the milk from the cows they own? I suggest the judge himself should go on a one way trip to Siberia, where he may find the legal situation more to his liking.

    • Disgusted

      Yes, that is exactly what they will do. You Tube “raw milk farm raids” and you won’t believe your eyes. Your tax dollars at work storming small farmers farms with armed police like they were a crack house in the works. It’s disgusting.

    • http://LibertyAlert Bud

      All judges should be required to pass a test proving that they understand the constitution of the US. It appears that the meaning of the constitution is not taught in law school, and most of the members of congress are graduates of a law school.

    • Lost in Paradise

      No, I was thinking if you fill him with lead and take him to lake Superior, he will never come back.

  • dan821

    Very sad….

  • Ross E B

    Pasteurized milk was done to extend the shelf life of milk. This extends the profit from the product. Pasteurized milk is dead milk. It has very little value to us. The protein structure is changed in pasteurization. This helps to cause people to be lactose intolerant. Many people who are lactose intolerant have no problems with raw milk. Raw milk is safe if you get it from a farm that is careful with the care of the cows and the handling of the milk.

    • Disgusted

      You are very right. I have a friend who has 5 children and because of intolerance of pasteurized milk for some of them had 3 different kinds of milk (if you can actually call soy and rice milk…milk) in his refrigerator. After some research he tried raw milk and all of his children drink it without issue. He now has one kind of milk in his refrigerator.
      The state government and the federal government need to stay out of it.

    • Linda

      Ross E.B.,
      I had my own cow, and I can tell you that the milk was still fresh 21 days out! It is all in the handling. Pasteurization just gave the milk producers/sellers an excuse to be sloppy. Even Louis Pasteur would not drink pasteurized milk!

    • Carol

      Are you trying to tell us that there is no milk sugars in raw milk? It’s the lactose(milk sugar), and the non-production of the lactase enzyme by the pancreas that causes lactose intolerance. And don’t try to tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about. I happen to be lactose intolerant.

      • Bob Livingston

        Dear Carol,

        Yes raw milk contains milk sugars. But raw milk also contains a full complement of enzymes and lactase-producing bacteria the body needs to break down and assimilate milk sugar lactose. These are killed when the milk is pasteurized and homogenized. Many people who are lactose intolerant can tolerate raw milk, but not all.

        Best wishes,

      • bobambi

        Carol, no one is trying to tell you anything. If YOU are allergec to milk then don’t drink it..but who is to tell me that I cannot drink the milk from my cow or my neighbors cow? I am allergec to carrots.. so maybe you should not eat them…right?

        • Carol J

          I don’t recall saying that no one should drink cows milk. I just said that milk contained the sugar lactose and some people do not produce the lactase enzyme.

      • Jibbs

        Lactose intolerance occurs when the small intestine does not produce enough of an enzyme called lactase. Your body needs lactase to break down, or digest, lactose (the sugar found in dairy products).

        Lactose intolerance generally develops in individuals as they age. People tend to become lactose intolerant around their teenage years, or during adulthood (ages 30 to 40). Generally, lactose intolerance most commonly runs in families and is related to one’s family’s genes. Lactose intolerance can also be brought on by infections, chemotherapy, penicillin reactions, surgery, pregnancy, or from the avoidance of dairy products for a prolonged period of time. Additionally, specific ethnicities are more likely to suffer from lactose intolerance than others.

        On rare occasions, newborns are lactose-intolerant. Usually newborns outgrow the condition as they get older.

        One’s genes can play a key role in being able to consume dairy product without symptoms. One’s genetic make-up dictates if his or her body can produce enough lactase enzyme, an enzyme the body needs to break down dairy products. Many ethnic cultures are in fact more likely to be lactose intolerant because their diets call for low lactose intake. Over generations, these ethnic groups don’t pass on the enzyme to break down dairy because they aren’t consuming dairy.

        Lactose Intolerance by Ethnic Groups:
        African Blacks 95%
        American Indians 90%
        Asian Americans 90%
        North American Blacks 75%
        Mexican Americans 75%
        Mediterraneans 60%
        North American Whites 15%

        • Carol J

          Thanks for the info. I had been told, by my doctor at that, the it was the pancreas that produced the enzyme. I just read the Mayo Clinic report on it.

    • Karolyn

      Actually,pasteurization is to get rid of any bacteria; but it gets rid of everything of value as well.

  • 1minuteman

    small family run dairy farms have been raided by swat teams for selling raw milk. tell your congressmen to get out of our lives. we have a right to eat what we want. the fda, epa fcc etc have become the big bother henchmen for obama and the progressives.

  • Joe

    The judge must be a communist democrat like his idol obozo!

  • Barry

    What does’nt everyone in the Corrupt USA understand…..We do not have a enforcable Constitution.An illegal president know by all politians to be an imposter. I will say that 99% of all readers have not read the Constituiton ever. Make sure your children maintain the ignorance.
    Everyone continues to elect the same criminals expecting a different result. Keep watching Dancing with the Stars,stuffing your cake hole and here we are today. It is over and some are still claiming…Its against the “what?”

    • combat seabee

      Great post and I bet that transgender bender bono will win in the interest of the liberal political correctness bullcrap that they espew on everyone!!

    • weederwoman

      Agreed, 99% of people do not know what the Constitution says. Our family reads or listens to the Constitution, Bill of RIghts, and Declaration of Independence at least one time a year and often more. We make it a point on Memorial Day, Independence Day, and Labor Day to listen to at least one of them, if not all. It is a real eye-opener.

      • Lost in Paradise

        I think 99% of the people do not know we have one, let alone what a constitution is. LOL

    • Ted Crawford

      While I sincerely hope that the percentabe is significantly lower than 99%, I believe that a vast majoriety fall in that group. The saddest part of that is it is only 14 pages long including all 27 Amendments and, I, believe even the Declaration of Independence!
      Again I’m awed by the foresight of the founders. I believe that it was T. Jefferson that said “If a Nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be”

      • Jay

        I love hearing about the Founding Father’s… great men all, despite their faults (of which there were many) but certainly not gods. And they didn’t all agree with the new ultra-conservativism that is going around. In fact, George Washington, john Adams, and Alexander Hamilton, among others believed in a strong FEDERAL government… weird, huh?

    • Lost in Paradise

      Right on Barry! it is all over but the crying.

  • s c

    That judge is what some like to think of as an “intellectual.” Some “intellectuals” have all the common sense of a cracked brick. That particular judge in Wisconsin should be told straight to his face that NO Wisconsin judge has the right to breath air or to continue to live without the advanced, written permission of the people of Wisconsin.
    This kind of insane behavior is to be expected, but it should NOT be tolerated. A judge is supposed to be a source of wisdom and knowledge, and when that isn’t forthcoming, then the people have the RIGHT to protect themselves.
    That same RIGHT also covers elected lower life forms in all 50 states [57 states, according to a certain Washington yahoo]. We are very close to having to protect ourselves daily, and our non-leaders need to know that the days of gradualism are over.
    Tyrants MUST get what they deserve. If they don’t like it, let them flee to another country. Period. We do NOT need permission to be FREE!

  • http://Boblivingstonletter Lyle McDaniel

    Lord o mercy, Ijust found out I gotta die. after raising a bunch of kids on the farm and myself,drinking raw cows milk. my my I’m only 80 years old and expected to go way past 100. I’ll quit the cows milk and start on Jack Daniels, it isn’t pasturized

    • Ted Crawford

      You might just have something there Lyle! Remember Johnny Bond said that he didn’t take the Doctor advice to stop drinking because he knew a lot more old drunks than old Doctors!

  • Ted Crawford

    I find myself now a days almost continually awed by the wisdom and foresight of our Founders! I’m 63, growing up when I did we had a lagre amount of trust in our Government. Oh yea there was corruption, but by todays standards the Congresses of my youth would be considered a Saintly group!
    Got a little off track there sorry! What I wanted to share is a statement by Thomas Jefferson that when I first read it , I couldn’t understand th significiance of, NOW I DO! “If the people let the Government deciede what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live in Tryanny”

    • mickey

      Same here. Now the hay fields are being attacked. A man trying to build a house on his own property is being fined by the EPA for not planting trees on it and waiting 3 yrs to see what the eco system does.

      We are in trouble. The farmer down the road came down to see what I was planting in my own yard. Rarely ever saw him in 13 yrs, now it is more like every week.

  • mickey

    This is bizarre. I know WI is a diary state but it is full of pockets of the old type Europeans. I wonder how they are dealing with this.

    I just watched Vanishing Bees. They are gone–not just dead–gone. The few bees I had this year, after an absence of five years, were black and white, not yellow and black.

    That SB510 is dangerous. It was said it wouldn’t effect the back yard garden but we are seeing it.

    At first, I wondered about the insane behavior to protect us from ourselves but now I am beginning to suspect the government knows what is going on and the pollinators are are infected with GM stuff that reacts to medicines. Small wonder the doctor asks what medicines one takes. It certainly isn’t for our health but for the possible interactions.

    I too grew up with local dairy milk and didn’t have problems with lactose intolerance until much later in life. My kids also had real dairy milk. I wouldn’t feed the grocery store crap to my dogs, much less drink it.

  • Robert

    After reading this article I was applalled by the “gall and the oddasity and arrogance” of this judge. By what precendence did this judge use to base his ruling(s) on? If this ruling doesn’t give the meaning of “Absolute power corrupts absolutely”, then I don’t know what does. Do you? It is obviously clear he is mentally duranged in his mental capacity to make fair and just decisions. He has clearly shown that he is mentally incapable and he does have an ego to satisfy (Power over the people). I do not know what the proceedures are for your state but he has demostrated that he needs to take a “permanent” vacation from his position as judge for the state of Wisconsin because of his irrational thinking. How was this judge put into his positon? Was he elected by the people or by the state legislature. If he was elected by vote from the people then logic dictates that the people can remove him from his chair by special vote due to his “Mental Incompatence.” His thinking processes has failed him, obviously, which will give justification for his removal. And for his past rulings, to include this one, would become automatically become “null and voided”. So I say to the people of Wisconsin, ban together to stand against “his will” or be ruled under “his will”. The choice is yours. So I ask the people to do the “right thing” and help this judge for a much needed rest form his judgeship. This judge needs to understand that the people need relief to pursue about their own business without fear. This judge must understand he needs this rest. Remember, the people of Wisconsin have a choice but the judge cannot because he is mentally encapable of making any rational decision(s) on his own any more. Therefore, the people must prevail in this matter as soon as possible. The longer you wait, the longer it takes to replace. Remember, remove him for “No Confidence” and other charges for his sake. He needs rest and soon.


  • American Drone

    Judge Patrick J. Fiedler must be a disciple of Cass Sunstein.

    Perhaps he needs to have a meeting with Patrick Henry and Samuel Adams. I am sure that they would offer a desenting opinion to his “radical hippies of the 60′s” diatribe.

    Just when you think our country couldn’t drop any lower on the scale of stupidity.

  • Baba

    The Government Watch Dog is going way too far. It’s time for Wisconsin and other victimized States to stand up and do some legal yapping to get rid of the BS they are handed.”This Government” does not know what is good or bad. Look at the mess “The Government” has put us in. Now, we are not to drink or eat our very own products?! Looks like a BO “agenda” that is being carried out to the fullest. We have to figure out a way to rid ourselves of the huge epidemic and that is Big Government!!!!!

    • American Drone

      A good place to start is with one right we still have…or at least I assume we will still have come November 2012 and that is to VOTE!

      No worries though friends, our economy will sort all of this out by itself anyway. Then we can start over.

  • Alex

    They won’t even allow people to smoke the plants they grow in Wisconsin!

    • Vicki

      For a TRULY free people the possession of ANYTHING created, grown, obtained without fraud or theft, can not be illegal.

  • ByTheZ

    This is not just an issue for Wisconsin, sometimes these rulings grow legs and travel interstate. And it is not just an issue about Dairy-the FDA seems to think that they can tell the US citizens what they can or cannot eat or grow and push GMOs on us. It is about corrupt public servants and corrupted government ideology. I also consumed raw milk as a child and never got sick-in fact I have a very good immune system and never had any childhood diseases and don’t even get so much as a cold today-maybe thanks to raw milk. While you are at it look at the ingredients that are in the bread at the grocery store. Take the challenge and see if you can get some mold to eat that bread. These ingredients were added in the 90s to allow the baking industry to be lower their sanitary standards and extend the shelf life of their products. This trampling on our Constitution and our liberties and rights have to stop now! It is my opinion that our best hope is for Dr. Ron Paul to win the 2012 Presidential Election. I for one just got a second house in Wisconsin and will follow the link.

  • Sam I am

    Since we don’t have a fundamental right to consume what foods we want without permission from the state, then everyone in Wisconsin needs to call the local police or the judge’s office before every meal just to double check that the food you are eating is “authorized”. Just say that you heard about the case against raw milk, in that you are just being safe. Say that your kids are starving and you are still waiting for permission to consume foods A, B, and C. Watch CPS come and take your children despite being careful to always obtaining state permission before meals.

    • American Drone

      Or send them the “end result sample” of what we digested the night before so that they can examine it to see if what we ate was authorized by the State as a legally consummable product. :)

      If there is one thing that the State is really good at, it is “end result samples”!

      • Sam I am

        Putting crap on someone’s door could be considered a bioterrorism attack, (granted a pretty weak attack).

  • sean murrey ILLIniois

    A lot of bull.

  • General “Bull” Krapper

    Everytime I read articles like this I feel as if I’ve woken up in an alternate universe where USA stands for Unconstitutional System of AHoles. I bet if the farmers claimed that they were actually illegal Mexicans or Muslims they’d be allowed to do anything they want. — Stay Well/Stay Safe

    • American Drone

      Just think General, if the Founders were here today, their views could get them arrested.

      We were told we would get CHANGE and we are receiving it. Hang in there Comrades.

    • Sam I am

      Thats what I always tell people. I am a bisexual muslum hippie who is exploring the straight side of my bisexualness until further notice.

  • Sam I am

    A government powerful enough to protect you from every conceivable ill is powerful enough to ensure you aren’t protected at all.

    • Vicki

      Any power you give government to take away rights of those you do not like can and WILL be used against you when they get control of government.

  • American Drone

    There is an excellent book written by the founder of Gun Owners of America, by H. L. Richardson and I recommend it for everyone reading and replying to these posts. It is called, Confrontational Politics.
    It is a short and easy read, chocked full of great advice as well as being an excellent expose on why these wackos act the way they do, why they win, and how we can learn from this and apply the same tactics. William Butlet Yeats once wrote in Second Coming, “The best lacked all conviction, while the worst were full of passionate intensity”. Let’s reclaim that intensity.

  • Jay

    Did anyone bother to read the Order?
    First, it denies a SUMMARY JUDGMENT request, which is a request for a decision prior to any trial or production of evidence. The judge actually writes “The Court is unwilling to declare there is a fundamental right… without first being presented with significantly more developed arguments… ” Seems reasonable to me. After all, if I said that I love to eat marijuana and heroin… do I have a fundemantal right to grow and use them? Didn’t think so…
    More importantly, Judges have to decide the case before them, not some make believe case. The order makes clear, this is about a company operating a DAIRY FARM which SHOULD be regulated so hat the public’s health is not endangered.
    I know this isn’t a popular view here, but if you’re going to get angry about something, you should know the actual FACTS first!

    • American Drone

      Agreed, you should get your facts straight and not compare apples to oranges, or in this case, cows to mind altering hallucinogen’s, or better yet, animals to plants.

      If there is one thing “We the People” desperately need today is more government regulation and intrusion. Just the mere threat or idea that cases such as this can be decided by one individual, bending and abusing the powers placed in their hands to subjugate the many to their “point of view”.

    • Karolyn

      Actually, we SHOULD have the right to grow and eat WHATEVER we want! What about this:
      ■“Plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to own and use a dairy cow or a dairy herd.”
      ■“Plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to consume the milk from their own cow.”
      ■“Plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to board their cow at the farm of a farmer.”
      ■“Plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to produce and consume the foods of their choice.”

    • Vicki

      Jay writes:
      “After all, if I said that I love to eat marijuana and heroin… do I have a fundemantal right to grow and use them? ”

      Why yes you do. The fact that some people butt into your business is exactly why the Judge thinks the way he does about milk.

      For a TRULY free people the possession of ANYTHING created, grown, obtained without fraud or theft, can not be illegal.

      This would include milk, and herbs of any type. If you were a truly free people these freedoms would be self evident. For those who are slaves who think you are free, you often miss the big clues that your Master says what you can or can not eat.


    And just where does a stinking damn judge think he got the power and right to tell anybody what they can/can’t do with their own private property and body?! The sam S.O.B.’s that say a woman has the right to abort a baby because of her “right to privacy” would deny her right to drink milk from her own cow. More evidence that this government from top to bottom needs to be abolished and start over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Lost in Paradise

    Being from Wisconsin and living there for several decades,this comes as no surprise to me. It is a police state, and wants total control over its citizens. I own property there,but had to leave because of the local gestapo.
    I now live in a third world country, and have more freedom than I have in the country I love for many years. I really cannot believe that the once great country America is almost totally gone.
    If you yellow type can lose the color yellow, and get a good revolution organized and started I will come back and risk it all to recover America from the commies. An armed revolution, and not some pussy crap with banners and flags, or a VOTE EM OUT bull—-. You dreamers aren’t going to accomplish much by voting.
    In order for voting to work you would need to have a majority of republicans in all branches of government, and then you would need to show them who is really boss. The entire United States government needs to be dispensed with.GONE! Then a new constitutional government ready to be put in place. How is any of this going to happen with the country divided into at least 5 political camps?

    • Jibbs

      How are the firearms laws in that third world country you live in?

  • http://yahoo Reba

    This is insanity! What’s next? Anyone having a vegetable garden will have their house raided and garden destroyed? As for the listeria outbreak in lettuce in CA, The FDA was conducting a research program at the farm in Salinas to see how the pathogen affected vegetables. As for raw milk, I believe its healthier. I am tired of others saying we live in a free country. NO WE DON’T. This govt, from local, state, and federal levels, are as corrupt as the day is long.

    • American Drone

      Ron Paul nailed this enigma many years ago and still makes the same claim, of which I agree. A free market will correct any and all substandard products far better than government regulation. Regulations lead to even greater regulations, which then spread into all aspects of society and morph into loss of rights, left unchecked. A free market will simply drive the substandard product producers out of business by not accepting any product that is unsafe.

      I do agree with Jay to a point and that is we need a strong Federal gov’t, BUT, not the intrusive monstrosity that we currently have. We need a government that remembers that it works for US so that we can do what we do best: live free, be creative and in harmony with each other, support each other when needed, be an excellent example to the world like we used to be, and stay out of our neighbors business. A good government should work to protect us when needed but leave us alone otherwise. The few have this notion that the many are too stupid to be left alone to their own devices; however, history has proven otherwise. The problem began when gov’t decided that it alone knew what was best…perhaps there were good intentions along the way, but that too fell short due to a disease that is common to us all…human imperfection.

  • Lost in Paradise

    It is a really sad day for me, because I grew up in a mostly free America, and even Wisconsin was good then. Damn it now look what we have. [offensive comment removed]

    • American Drone

      How sad indeed that we need to denegrate fellow Americans with such metaphors.

    • Helana

      Clean it up…the color of ones skin is NOT the issue. It is a heart and mind iss.ue. If he..being our current gov..truly loved this country and our way of life..and our Constitution..there would be no problems. Why are people always making this a black white issue. In the end…we are all the same…we all have a heart that beats..blood that’s red..and we have to answer for the things we do wrong. The problem with he was a great organizer…but has never held a job in his life…so really..what wold he know about running a country…or helping to create the enviorment for businesses to create the jobs? He knows nothing about foreign policy..except to kiss up to the ones with oil and disrespect our allies. He was a fresh face..that people latched onto..because he cold speak well and captivate the masses. Little did anyone know he is useless without his telepromter. As for Herman Cain..he is a business man who knows how to create jobs…he does know how to make a payroll…he is a leader..he does get the job done. He has been a success and made a success of many companies. What positive things has BO done in comparrison? So back off with the name calling. Act like an American..Be Proud. If you don’t like something or how things are….get involved and positivly effect change for the better. Go vote..etc

      • Lost in Paradise

        Unfortunatly Helana we are not all the same, and are not all of the same thought pattern. If you would like to compare black and white, which of the two has been the most succesful over the centuries, and still is, and why? Truly, I wish with all my heart you were correct, but it is not to be.

  • DW

    This is just one example of the overall problem at all levels here in the U.S. Look at how the Federal Government continues to overstep the Constitutional authority given to it. This is just a list off the top of my head and could be much longer.

    There has been a concerted effort at all levels to destroy the U.S. and it’s Constitution. Look at every area the government is trying to take away rights. For instance look at the following very short list:
    1.)Parental rights. 2.)The right to assemble wherever they want without having to have a license or a permit. 3.)The right to grow my own food without the government telling me I cannot grow whatever I want or sell, trade, or give it to whomever I want without their permission. 4.)The government control of the internet essentially controlling the speech that can be used against the government. (This is already in the works by the FCC gaining control of it in spite of the Federal Judge ruling it was illegal for them to do it. Now they are trying to put Net Neutrality in place which gives them total control of the internet. 5.)Removal of the right to truly own our own property without the government being able to confiscate it under rules made up by the government. 6.)Removal of our ability to have electricity supplied to our house without the government monitoring and controlling how much electricity we are allowed to use. They are moving toward requiring these so called smart controllers in every home. They have already said they will start charging the persons who refuses to have these smart controllers installed in their house. These controllers will have the ability to openly monitor what is going on inside the house, but we are told this will be disabled. (Year right!) 7.) The right to own and operate a business without the government coming in and control it out of business. I know several instances where the government legislated a business out of business.
    These are just a few things to bring to your attention, I have not even scratched the surface. The fact is, if the American people do not wake up and see the U.S. is being taken over by the Marxist Communistic ideology, we can kiss the U.S. goodbye. At this point, the only thing I see that could possibly stop this takeover, is for people to wake up and recognize that the U.S. has thrown God out and repent ant turn back to Him. He is the only one who can save our nation at this time. The power has shifted so solidly in the favor of these Marxist Communists that the only one who can break that power it the one who brought our nation together in the first place, the Lord Jesus Christ.

    • Helana

      This is why I have told my husband…I would rather make aliyah (immigrate) to Israel and deal with dodging the occasional bombs..etc. at least there is freedom there. The gov isn’t oppresive..there isn’t this huge list of you can’t and you musn’t. So sad..this once great nation is being destroyed by a bunch of cowards. If they were real men..they wouldn’t behave the way they are

      • newspooner

        My understanding is that Israel is a socialist country. Correct me if I am wrong. I think we need to make liberty’s last stand here in the USA.

        • Helana

          Not entirely…but this country is. We like to say we are not. Our founders were not. Most of us in our hearts are not..but our leaders are…and they are forcing it down our throats.

          Still..either Israel…you are free to live..have your…life etc..without the constant inteferance of the gov

    • newspooner

      I don’t believe that our only hope is God’s intervention. We can still save liberty via the ballot box. But we need to get out there and wake up people one by one.

      • Lost in Paradise

        I wish that were true, but it is not. THe ballot box is not going to help this time. WE will need to fight our way out of this one with our guns and ammo. It is better to die fighting the bastards than to let them rule us with an Iron Fist.

        I could no longer stand it, so I moved to a 3rd world country, where I can have freedom. GO FIGURE! Knowing what is happening to the country I love, is tearing me to pieces, but what can one man do by himself. If my fellow Americans and Patriots would stand up and fight with their words and their weapons, I would return to help. But not until, will I return.

  • Helana

    Is this what our Men and Women fought and died for? NO! They fought for our freedoms..freedom from tyranical leaders in England, freedom from opressive invaders etc. They did not fight and die so we could be told by our can’t drink cows can’t eat the veggies you grow…you can’t put a well on your can’t do this or that. Give me a Break!! Our Constitution and Bill of Rights affords us the rights to such things. It is NOT illegal!. We do not live in Communist China or Russia. This judge needs to be removed from the bench.., any law he has made that is contrary to the real laws need to be overturned…so the people of Wisconsin can get back to normal life. We here in Hoosier country would not put up with it. Hmmm ..I wonder. If all us farmers..being I am one of them..would just stop feeding the country..and just took care of our own…I. think that would get the point across in a hurry. Oh sure they’d outsource that too…but who the heck would buy it..or could afford it. God Help Us All!

  • American Drone

    You nailed it…and it will happen.

  • Jerome Bigge

    People need to study American history. Read the writings of those who founded this country. You will note that they were an economic elite who feared the “common people”. This is why when the USA was founded only people of “means” were allowed to vote. The ordinary working person was not allowed to vote until later on in our country’s history. There is a difference between a “Republic” and a “Democracy”. We are a “Republic”. The Republicans through “Voter Picture ID” want to prevent the poor, the elderly, the people of color from being allowed to vote. This way they believe that they can prevent people more likely to vote Democrat from voting. Returning the US to the sort of society we once were, a society where only “those of means” had the right to vote.

    • American Drone


    • Vicki

      Jerome Bigge says:
      “This is why when the USA was founded only people of “means” were allowed to vote.”

      Well actually only people who owned property voted because they were the only ones who had something to loose when the tax man commith. The rest of us did not need to vote cause the whole of the people understood and enforced the Constitution. Government was small and focused on it’s proper role of protecting the rights of EVERYONE.

      Once the income tax became law then working folk had something to loose and needed (and got) the power to vote. As we see today our forefathers were VERY wise in limiting voting to those with wealth to loose. Now that everyone gets to vote we see the people getting wealth (money) from government constantly voting for those politicians who promise them more “bacon” from that government.

  • Joyceann

    I raised my kids on a farm, we grew our own produce, our own meat and our own milk and eggs. It is my right to do this. I sold many a jar, and gave the milk away. Nobody ever got sick and I didn’t find out later than government food was not good for you. This is just a way for government to shut down a food supply that the government can’t control. The judge said we don’t have a right to food. Who does he think he is? I’m sure that in the right to life, liberty and the persuit of happiness, that food and water are in there somewhere.
    We need to vote the government out of our business and vote out these judges. We can begin by doing our homework and using our power to reclaim America.

    • American Drone

      Your family and you didn’t get sick because the FED was not around to tell you how bad that was. Now that you know that this is bad for you, you have no choice but to get sick. Sorry, just telling you what your beloved FED wants you to know.

      Of course, I am being sarcastic, but there is truth in that sarcasm. We often do get sick, but not because of bad milk, but because of worry, fear, and angst all caused by the fear mongering of Big Brother.

      Trust the Lord

  • No fool

    Judge Patrick J. Fiedler has become too mentally incapacitated to perform his duties. He needs to be removed and replaced.

  • BigStick2012

    When are we the people going to rise up and say enough is enough, this guy is obviously incompetent, and borderline senile. I guess the people of Wisconsin like being puppy dogs, and maybe those that are okay with this ruling and like being told when, how, what, and where to do everything should all have their noses pierced so they can be led around by a leash. They certainly wouldn’t want to have to think for themselves on such important matters as what they can eat, no they might make the wrong choices and get a ticket or something. Remember ‘Demolition Man’ a computer with oblama’s voice and picture handing out citations everywhere. Can’t wait!!!!!!!!!

  • john

    Exercise your rights or they will atrophy. Could there be a better example of this truth than this ruling?

  • Tracy

    This is just more proof that our entire government from executive and legislative to the Judicial and press has been bought out by big food and big pharma. Soon you won’t be able to grow a potato in your backyard without nanny state approval.

  • Kimberly

    Does everyone understand now that the courts don’t give a rip about our “natural rights” that are supposed to be protected by the Constitution and the constitutions of the states? This is “tyranny” at its worst! And why when you vote for judges, be sure to check their records. I realize some judges are appointed, however, if you vote for people who respect your natural rights, then they will appoint judges who in turn respect your natural rights.

    Remember, this is not the only judge who thinks this way. ALL judges must swear an oath to support, uphold, and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. If a judge doesn’t do this it is an impeachable offense and the judge should be removed.

    • American Drone

      The United States of America was founded as a Republic, not a democracy, under the Constitution.

      The purpose of a Republic form of government is as follows:
      -To control and limit the Majority and protect the Minority by a written Constitution
      -To protect the GOD-given, inalienable rights and liberty of the Individual
      -Without this protection, the “Democracy” would result in a Majority with unlimited power over the Minority [mob rule]
      -Without which, there would be no legal safeguards for the Rights of the Individual or the Minority

      I guess the question is this: If our government refuses to abide by the Constitution, how long will the People continue to do so? If the Constitution is “null and void”, isn’t the government “null and void” by that same reasoning?

      “Our Constitution was made only for a MORAL and RELIGIOUS people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”-John Adams

  • Helana

    Jerome…you are so far out in left field that you need a map to get back. Not trying to be seriously my american brother..what you said is not so.

    Yes…we are a Republic..and not a Democracy as many are lead to believe. There is a difference.

    But the gov was never that do the republicans want to do that. Why would would say that? What historical proof do you have to back up these claims?

    Originally only slaves and women were not allowed to vote, but then even that changed.

    Now I agree there is to much gov intrusion into our lives..but the reason we have a need for voter ID according to the so illegal aliens don’t vote, also so there isn’t multiple voting going on. Like say someone was to vote in several different states..which has happened. Heck..people have voted in several different counties.

    So stop with the conspiracies

    • Jibbs

      Please go and re-read history and take some notes.

  • Rennie

    Free the cows!!!!! Let the judge pay their feed bill.

    • American Drone

      Come on Rennie, if we do that, the next thing you know, the pigs will want to be free. Then the pigs will want to hold office. Can you imagine a pig in office? Uh…well…you finish my thought.

  • http://yahoo Skyraider6

    he’s punch drunk from visiting to many breweries or wants to revise the industry in old mil

    • libertytrain

      Because of the unions the big breweries are long gone or just have a small face showing in Milwaukee….

  • American Drone

    Here is why we are to stop drinking milk altogether. This money is needed to fund something “far more important” than dairy producers contribution to our free market society. Silly us, what were we thinking. Let’s get our priorities straight as this article points out:’s-taxpayer-funded-spending-is-an-embarrassment-for-the-white-house/?

  • dufas-duck

    It is easy to figure out why the US is so messed up………

    DSA-Members: American Socialist Voter – Democratic Socialists of America – 10-1-09

    The Socialist Party of America announced in their October 2009 newsletter that 70 Congressional democrats currently belong to their caucus.
    This admission was recently posted on

    American Socialist Voter–
    Q: How many members of the U.S. Congress are also members of the DSA?
    A: Seventy

    Q: How many of the DSA members sit on the Judiciary Committee?
    A: Eleven: John Conyers [Chairman of the Judiciary Committee], Tammy Baldwin, Jerrold Nadler, Luis Gutierrez,
    Melvin Watt, Maxine Waters, Hank Johnson, Steve Cohen, Barbara Lee, Robert Wexler, Linda Sanchez [there are 23 Democrats on the Judiciary Committee of which eleven, almost half, are now members of the DSA].

    Q: Who are these members of 111th Congress?
    A: See the listing below

    Hon. Raúl M. Grijalva {D- AZ-07)
    Hon. Lynn Woolsey {D- CA-06)

    Vice Chairs
    Hon. Diane Watson {D- CA-33)
    Hon. Sheila Jackson-Lee {D- TX-18)
    Hon. Mazie Hirono {D- HI-02)
    Hon. Dennis Kucinich {D- OH-10)

    Senate Members
    Hon. Bernie Sanders {D- VT)

    House Members
    Hon. Neil Abercrombie {D- HI-01)
    Hon. Tammy Baldwin {D- WI-02)
    Hon. Xavier Becerra {D- CA-31)
    Hon. Madeleine Bordallo {D- GU-AL)
    Hon. Robert Brady {D- PA-01)
    Hon. Corrine Brown {D- FL-03)
    Hon. Michael Capuano {D- MA-08)
    Hon. André Carson {D- IN-07)
    Hon. Donna Christensen {D- VI-AL)
    Hon. Yvette Clarke {D- NY-11)
    Hon. William “Lacy” Clay {D- MO-01)
    Hon. Emanuel Cleaver {D- MO-05)
    Hon. Steve Cohen {D- TN-09)
    Hon. John Conyers {D- MI-14)
    Hon. Elijah Cummings {D- MD-07)
    Hon. Danny Davis {D- IL-07)
    Hon. Peter DeFazio {D- OR-04)
    Hon. Rosa DeLauro {D- CT-03)
    Rep. Donna F. Edwards {D- MD-04)
    Hon. Keith Ellison {D- MN-05)
    Hon. Sam Farr {D- CA-17)
    Hon. Chaka Fattah {D- PA-02)
    Hon. Bob Filner {D- CA-51)
    Hon. Barney Frank {D- MA-04)
    Hon. Marcia L. Fudge {D- OH-11)
    Hon. Alan Grayson {D- FL-08)
    Hon. Luis Gutierrez {D- IL-04)
    Hon. John Hall {D- NY-19)
    Hon. Phil Hare {D- IL-17)
    Hon. Maurice Hinchey {D- NY-22)
    Hon. Michael Honda {D- CA-15)
    Hon. Jesse Jackson, Jr. {D- IL-02)
    Hon. Eddie Bernice Johnson {D- TX-30)
    Hon. Hank Johnson {D- GA-04)
    Hon. Marcy Kaptur {D- OH-09)
    Hon. Carolyn Kilpatrick {D- MI-13)
    Hon. Barbara Lee {D- CA-09)
    Hon. John Lewis {D- GA-05)
    Hon. David Loebsack {D- IA-02)
    Hon. Ben R. Lujan {D- NM-3)
    Hon. Carolyn Maloney {D- NY-14)
    Hon. Ed Markey {D- MA-07)
    Hon. Jim McDermott {D- WA-07)
    Hon. James McGovern {D- MA-03)
    Hon. George Miller {D- CA-07)
    Hon. Gwen Moore {D- WI-04)
    Hon. Jerrold Nadler {D- NY-08)
    Hon. Eleanor Holmes-Norton {D- DC-AL)
    Hon. John Olver {D- MA-01)
    Hon. Ed Pastor {D- AZ-04)
    Hon. Donald Payne {D- NJ-10)
    Hon. Chellie Pingree {D- ME-01)
    Hon. Charles Rangel {D- NY-15)
    Hon. Laura Richardson {D- CA-37)
    Hon. Lucille Roybal-Allard {D- CA-34)
    Hon. Bobby Rush {D- IL-01)
    Hon. Linda Sánchez {D- CA-47)
    Hon. Jan Schakowsky {D- IL-09)
    Hon. José Serrano {D- NY-16)
    Hon. Louise Slaughter {D- NY-28)
    Hon. Pete Stark {D- CA-13)
    Hon. Bennie Thompson {D- MS-02)
    Hon. John Tierney {D- MA-06)
    Hon. Nydia Velazquez {D- NY-12)
    Hon. Maxine Waters {D- CA-35)
    Hon. Mel Watt {D- NC-12)
    Hon. Henry Waxman {D- CA-30)
    Hon. Peter Welch {D- VT-AL)
    Hon. Robert Wexler {D- FL-19)

    • Patriot

      It use to be if you were associated with any of these socialist groups your political career would be over…….now you can be active within these groups and for some reason it is ok! Just how far have we lost our way?

      • American Drone

        All in the name of tolerance, Patriot…all in the name and under the flag of tolerance.

        • Tony Cheatham

          To Americaan Drone.. Now we all know why you choose the name ‘Drone’!! Tolerance my butt. You are the perfect example of what’s wrong with America!

          • American Drone

            I was being sarcastic; the whole idea in this country of tolerance is a joke.

          • dufas-duck

            Actually, it is tolerance and tolerance comes in many different shades of gray. It depends on what the voters are tolerating. Most voters vote for what they is given to them, not what is the best for everybody.

            An example of tolerance might be Democratic Senator Byrd, a card carrying grand poo-bah of the Klu Klux Klan and the longest serving member of congress…. He was voted in again and again because he directed more federal tax monies from all the other states into his state than any other politician ever would or could. The voters kept voting him in for what he gave them. His votes were bought and paid for with other states federal taxes. His being a Klan member was tolerated for the voters gain, very similar to what the banks did, everyone else can go dig dirt as long as the banks got theirs…

            Tolerance is alive and well, it just depends on which tolerance one subscribes to…

    • Lost in Paradise

      It looks like there are many latino, black, and muslims in that list. No wonder we have such a mess.

  • Allan

    Ignorance and arrogance are often found together in the same person. This is why a large and powerful government is so dangerous to the freedoms, prosperity, and well being of the people.

    • American Drone

      Agreed. I also think that the time has come for the removal of the title of HONORABLE from members of Congress. Perhaps that title should be measured against the Constitution before it is bestowed…oh yeah, it is but it is ignored, I forgot. Sorry, I will go back to sleep.

  • graystroke

    This is the same metality that Australia used to tell its servanst that you do not have the right to protect your life nor your property so turn in your guns….and the Aussies said yep oki-doki… now fast forward to teh present and couple this ruling with ObamaCare and you have a totalitarian system that regulates all aspects of your life because it’s for your own good…..nice going Wisconsin hope you few libertarians up there put up a BIG fight…..

    • American Drone

      At least Wisconsin can conceal carry.

      Illinois is now the ONLY state which cannot. I suppose those of us that reside in Soviet Illinois are lesser Americans and do not warrant the same right as all other Americans.

  • Polski

    I must have missed it. There weren’t any instructions of how to correct these problems with the governments. You can talk all you want to, but that’s not going to correct our problem.

    • American Drone

      Actually, the cure has been mentioned often enough, VOTE! of course, a stronger cure is to PRAY FOR AMERICA as she has lost her way.

    • American Drone

      The point that you make is why I earlier mentioned an excellent resource by H.L. Richardson , founder of Gun Owners of America. He wrote a book called, Confrontational Politics, which discusses the concept of FULCRUM in public thought. Instead of trying to move the masses, move the fulcrum just far enough and the entire philosophy will shift, much like a teeter totter. Grass roots politics and thought, combined together, are the movers of the fulcrum, one person at a time. We must band together to amplify our voice. This is how the far left did it, the multitude of leftist organizations joined together to change America…now it is time to tip it back the other way.

    • TML

      I have a cure… see my last sentence below

    • Lost in Paradise

      It is called a revolution, and it does take more than ranting and raving. It takes organization, and TRUE PATRIOTISM, AND COURAGE. There is no longer an abundance of that in America.

      I am all to afraid that socialism has grown to large to take it down with out a blood bath. I’m all for it, if that is what it takes, and I know it will.

      The big question is how many of you, are willing to sacrifice your life for freedom?

      • American Drone

        I am…are you?

  • TML

    “What country does this fascist judge think he lives in?”

    I’d say that is an understated question.

    How does a judge in this country get away with making such a ruling?

    To say one has no right, can have it’s basis in law, but to say that they have no FUNDAMENTAL right… is just absolutely crazy. Epecially to grow and consume ones own food, which is not just a fundamental rights of American citizens, but a fundamental rights of human beings, and life in general.

    The man needs pulled off the bench and hung in the center of town.

    • American Drone


  • John R. Harbison

    I don’t know how you go about removing a Judge from office but some one should check it out and get it done

    • American Drone

      Letters to the Editor of your local paper(s), contact your legislators, letters to the judge and his office…any and all pressure has a cummulative effect. When it comes time to vote, and if he is up for election, FIRE HIM!

      • Lost in Paradise

        You sir are a dreamer, and not a realist. Please forget about the tooth fairy too.

        • American Drone

          Great…another quitter. Even if it turns out that I am wrong in trying, at least I can say that I DID TRY!

          So, what is your solution since you have yet to offer one?

  • Greg Endsley

    I live in Wisconsin. I’m telling the rest of the country that this is TYPICAL of the idiocy of this state. And it’s coming your way.

    • Karolyn

      Are YOU writing your legislatures, letters to the editors, the governor, etc.? If it happened here in SC, I would be in Columbia at the doorstep! I posted the ANH-USA (Association for Natural Health) link here earlier today. They have any easy one stop link to write to your governor and legislators.

      • American Drone

        EXACTLY! This is exactly what is meant by moving the fulcrum that I alluded to earlier today.

        Keep pushing and pressuring. Some say it is pointless…the alternative is none too appealing. I intend to go down swinging for the beliefs that I treasure.

      • Lost in Paradise

        Karolyn you are another foolish dreamer.We in Wisconsin have all done that, and it is of no use. They are in control and do not listen. They simply reply to your letters,emails, and phone calls with more rheotoric, and how they are doing many things for your good.

        In addition, the city and county government is like Nazi Gestapos, and have their own SS police.

        Don’t believe me? Move there and setup residence, and I will show you what I mean. I will need to move back to the U.S.,but it would be worth it for you to learn.

        • libertytrain

          karolyn lives in SC, by comparison Wisconsin would be unaffordable, though they did give welfare out very easily. That’s why all those folks were moving out of Chicago and into Kenosha – remember? — I don’t know if they are still passing it out to anyone who says they need it and are a minority.

        • American Drone

          Again, you state that it is a waste of time…again, I ask you…what are your solutions?

  • Jack F

    This story brings tears of sadness & madness to my eye’s. There are a lot of scumbag Judges and lawers that need to be fired in this country.

  • John

    Twenty-eight U.S. states do not prohibit sales of raw milk.[22] Cow shares can be found, and raw milk purchased for animal consumption in many states where retail for human consumption is prohibited.

    Most states impose restrictions on raw milk suppliers due to concerns about safety. As of 2009, the state of Connecticut has discussed creating possible restrictions upon the sale of raw milk to farms and farmer’s markets.[23] The FDA reports that, in 2002, consuming partially heated raw milk and raw milk products caused 200 Americans to become ill in some manner.[24]

    Many governmental officials and the majority of public health organizations hold to the need for pasteurization. Before pasteurization, many dairies, especially in cities, fed their cattle on low-quality food, and their milk was rife with dangerous bacteria. Pasteurizing it was the only way to make it safely drinkable. As pasteurization has been standard for many years, it is now widely assumed that raw milk is dangerous.[25] The Cornell University Food Science Department has compiled data indicating that pathogenic microorganisms are present in between 0.87% and 12.6% of raw milk samples.[26]

    Proponents of raw milk (in the U.S.) advance two basic arguments for unpasteurized milk. They claim that pasteurization destroys or damages some of the milk’s nutrients, and that while pasteurization may kill “dangerous” bacteria, it also kills off “good” bacteria that raw milk supporters claim to have health benefits.[27] The United States Food and Drug administration claims that this is false, and that pasteurizing milk does not destroy any of its nutritive value.[28]

    Proponents also invoke the benefits of direct-marketing when promoting the sale of raw milk. The ability of the farmer to eliminate the middle-man and sell directly to the consumer allows for greater profitability. Many manufacturers sell small-scale pasteurization equipment, thereby allowing farmers to both bypass the milk processors and sell pasteurized milk directly to the consumer. Additionally, some small U.S. dairies are now beginning to adopt low-temperature vat pasteurization.[29] Advocates of low-temperature vat pasteurization note that it produces a product similar to raw milk in composition and is not homogenized.

  • bob wire

    Well hmm? ~ It’s home of cheese heads and the state economy is linked to byproducts of the bovine.

    I’d suspect that this state is more sensitive then most to such matters.

    But anytime you get government into your business,life get crazy, it’s a given. The bad thing is maybe the farmer. Taking care of dairy cows is hard work and a everyday process. Sundays and Christmas means little to a cow. You are taking care of a herd of “girls” , two or three keeps me busy as a one legged man in a butt kicking contest.

    I hold no strong opinions at this time and it could easily be seen as a political football.

  • charlie61451

    Let’s see; you can own the cow, but you don’t have the right to consume the milk it produces. That’s like saying that you can own a furnace, but you don’t have the right to the heat it produces. I don’t see much difference between this judge’s ruling, and the aromatic brown pile that the cow leaves behind her after she has consumed the hay and grain that you probably don’t have the right to own, either.

    • libertytrain

      don’t give anyone any ideas about the furnace – that might be next…

      • dufas-duck

        Already there in parts of kalifornia. Can’t have a wood burning stove. Can’t BBQ.

        Soon, in the name of freedom, you will be able to run around in tight circles and allowed to eat dried grass clippings……nothing else.

        We, your leaders, are here to help and protect you…stay where you are, everything will be alright……..

  • Al

    It’s time to retire these kind of judges. A tar and feather party anyone.

  • Jay

    This judge needs to be fired! People were drinking raw milk long before homogenization, and corporate monopoly. This judge was obviously bribed, threatened, or blackmailed. Take your pick!

  • Libertarian58

    Why do we even listen to these communists? We need to start ignoring them. They can’t put 300,000,000 of us in jail. . .

  • Pathos

    “A society that surrenders freedom for security shall have neither”.

  • Winston Smith

    Watch TV – any day – and there are waves of commercials for “FDA Approved”, prescription medicines. Flashed on the screen in “fine print” are words to the effect: “TAKE THIS MEDICINE AND YOU MIGHT DIE!” But foods that have nourished millennia of us humans are “dangerous”?

  • Bob McCormick

    The judge is correct we have no rights anymore. It’s time to put government back in it’s proper place.

  • Andrew


  • Bob Eisenbart

    What county is this nut ball from? I think Judges like this should be made an example of by removing him from the bench in the next election process. Commerce is one thing, but what you do with your own cows, chickens, pigs whatever, is none of their business.

  • Bob Eisenbart

    Answered my own question. Dane county, wow who would have guessed!! He has made a decision to step down from the bench after 18 plus years. He will take up private practice in Dane county. Beware the “reserve judges syndrome”. These guys show up later and can’t be removed through elections like regularly elected judeges. It is a system that needs to be changed so that the people have that last say in whether they “serve” the people as a reserve judge or not. Off the milk point but important.

    • libertytrain

      Yep, Dane County – Madison, home of the union squabbles a few months back. Who would guess…. :)

  • BILLY V.


  • Pete Hans, Wausau WI

    Many of you do not know Wisconsin is a Socialist State run by Socialists, if you do not believe me look up the Mayors of Milwaukee in Google.

  • Paul D.

    There’s a joke that was old when I was a kid. . .

    Q– What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 50?
    A– “Your Honor.”

  • Mac

    Judge Patrick J. Fiedler, discloses his true allegiance by arguing that “economic well-being of the dairy industry” is at the heart of Wis. Stat Sec. 97-24(4).

  • Freescot1253

    This is a PRIME example how TOO MUCH POWER and AUTHORITY corrupts the system. Who is this judge to edict this kind of authority? I live in WV and will continue to eat what I raise, animal or plant, and NO judge is going to stop me. End of story.

  • gunsandammo

    Q. “What is the difference between a catfish and a liberal judge?”

    A. “One is a scum-sucking bottom feeder, and the other is a fish.”

  • Verus Langham

    Let’s just take a peek back in the era in which the Founders were putting together the foundations for this nation… some farmers, some inventors, some merchantmen: if it were a thing that they could foresee in future times they might well have included in the Constitution all the legal-speak words that would further define just what they meant by life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, to include (for the benefit of those who could not understand their clear meaning) such assertions as: “Yes, I own my own farm and I sell my goods to merchants who in turn package the goods and resell them to the community; I also sell to my neighbors and friends and we all enjoy the liberty to pursue the happy days whenever we sit at our tables eating and drinking the product of our labors… my, isn’t it noteworthy that no governmental regulatory body may in any way impede our personal pursuits of happiness by erroneously legislating the correctness for distribution and consumption of our livelihoods?”
    You know! It is beyond time when impeachment proceedings against such judges as this imbecile should have been done and over with. If given their full throttle, unchecked, they will next impose on us taxation on eating too much of fresh-homegrown produce and dairy products, else throw us into prisons for violating their edicts. We cannot fail to rally behind the state of Wisconsin to overthrow their burdensome jurists and legislators who think too much of themselves and their plan for our freedoms.


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