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Why Community Activists Shouldn’t Run The U.S. Economy

February 2, 2012 by  

Barack Obama was a community activist. He had never invested in, managed or started a business, much less served as CEO. He had no relevant experience to operate as CEO of the world’s greatest and largest economy. But we gave him the job anyway, and he failed. Wayne Allyn Root asks: Why are we surprised?

Wayne Allyn Root

(W.A.R.) is a former Presidential candidate, the 2008 Libertarian Vice Presidential nominee, and a Libertarian-conservative national media star. His new book, “The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide” is a #1 national best-seller in bookstores, as well as an Amazon #1 Finance and Conservative bestseller. A former CNBC anchorman and host (then known as Financial News Network), Root is the ultimate Capitalist Evangelist: a blue-collar S.O.B. (son of a butcher) turned CEO, small businessman, serial entrepreneur, business speaker, and TV/radio commentator on the topics of business, economics, entrepreneurship, and politics. Root is a regular guest on Fox News, as well as on hundreds of conservative talk radio shows across the United States. His opinions reach tens of millions of Americans as a regular columnist and commentator for many of the most popular political and business websites, including FoxNews.com. He also writes regularly for The Washington Times. He is the bestselling author of eight books. Root serves as national spokesman for several companies, as well as a Senior Economic Advisor. Root is also well known in the television and media industries. He has hosted, starred and produced many television shows. Today, he is a producer of the highest-rated television show on Travel Channel. Because of his success in the diverse fields of business, media, sports, entertainment and publishing, Root was awarded his own 180-pound granite star in the Las Vegas Walk of Stars. Only 60 legends in the history of Las Vegas have received a star on Las Vegas Boulevard. A native New Yorker and graduate of prestigious Columbia University, this Capitalist Evangelist proudly resides in Nevada, a state with no income tax. His website is ROOTforAmerica.com.

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  • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

    Lots of government workers get top jobs with high paying salaries because they got top marks at University. President Obama is no different if his team of government and economic advisers have the skills needed to run an economy which is NOT run like a business, otherwise it would have been declared insolvent long ago.

    Businesses cannot force people to pay tax to pay for services they dont want or need under threat of going to jail. Businesses must entice buyers with a good produc or service at a reasonable price to encourage them to part with their money. When businesses fail to attract enough buyers and income…they go bust, whereas governments go bust when they get to a GREEK TRADEGY situation and then all the other businesses are going to be on their own to try survive. This is were some international companies spread their investment portfolio of businesses throughout the world for such eventualities.

    Please tell me if you know what the total value of ALL the Assets of Land & Buildings anywhere on earth, Cash in Banks, Stocks, bonds, furniture, trucks, buses,office equipment and other Chattels and stock on hand owned by the USA government is more or less than their total Liabilities they owe to anyone. Does anyone really know? We wont count tax collections in progress or wages being paid..
    Then do the same again for EVERY INDIVIDUAL State in the USA …DOES ANTONE of all the business people who run their own businsees really know this question?

    Does Wayne Allyn Root know the answers? Please advise.

    • rapidio

      So was Corzine his great warhorse? Managers are also known by their appointees………..Holder makes one heck of a legal consult also…can’t even figure out how to not copy George. Actually I prefer that he do nothing

    • TIME

      Gilly,

      First off the “United States inc.” is a { Corporation } its not a Government, its at best a De Facto format.

      This is all due to the 13th & 14th Amendment, plus the added; DC Act of 1871 thus the forming the Corporation known as the United States Inc.
      Of what they / as in the US Inc can do anything they so wish based on the 13th and 14th Amandments, as well the noted DC Act of 1871 Plus all other ACTS they have brought about from 1871 on.
      In plain words they set up the system long ago and now have the rails all in place to bring about the end to their plan.

      The only people in the America’s who think otherwise are the
      “UN AWAKE” as in still not able to look the TRUTH in the EYE.

      As to Obama he was not elected, nor for that fact has any CEO of the United States Inc. from, US Grant to Obama.
      They have all been appointed to be the CEO by their masters its a win / win as both are 100% in the loop so only the voters think their vote’s are worth something.
      Pull the PLUG people dislodge from the system they can’t make it with out you, but you can make it without them.

      Please note – Just as with any well done puppet show the Masters are never seen by the public, that is unless you lift the viel and look behind it. Who of you out there has the balls to do that?

      In 1933 the amount of registered Voters hit the 51% mark or whats noted in the Business world as a “TAKE OVER Mark.”
      Thats when the US Inc gained its 100% full power thus all Americans then became little more than Chattle where the American people traded their God Given Rights for Priviliges granted by the Corporation known as the United States Inc.

      Saddly the mindless sheep have allowed what’s happened to unfold. Thus Perhaps its time for a complete RESET not unlike 5000 years ago when the waters removed from the earth of its worthless eaters.
      Perhaps next time humans will get it right, stop following week men, stand up understand that we have God’s blood in our viens we don’t need POLITIC’S nor mans laws, we have been granted GOD’S Laws.

      On a related note to the 13th & 14th Amendments as well the DC ACT of 1871 – a quick question to any of you.
      Why do you all think the issue of Illegal’s has never been addressed nor will it ever be fully addressed?

      What do the 13th & 14th Amendmends deal with?
      If you all still can’t get the picture, then there really is no hope.
      As this topic would open Pandora’s Box thus expose all of you to see the TRUTH’S about what I keep posting on the 13th & 14th Amendments, as well the DC Corporation known as the United States Inc.

      So it will be better for the Corporation to just grant all ILLEGALS – “Legal status.”
      Note thats what has been pushed for years and guess what it will be the only method ever explored for all the reasons I just gave you, how bloody easy is that to understand.

      • FreedomFighter

        Well said Time

        Gelding Liberals?

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNdidQ5Z62o&feature=related

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

        • http://google gary gerke

          Gelding liberals no!!!!!!!!!
          Confronting and killing the communist enemies of the republic..YES!!!!

          • Tom W.

            Starting with Nancy Pelosi? Just kidding Bob, Just kidding!!!

      • DaveH

        I’m sure you guys have seen this website:
        http://www.republicfortheunitedstates.org/
        But whether we’re a Republic governed by a Constitution, or a Corporation, doesn’t really matter if the majority of the citizens have been successfully Propagandized to Not understand the Principles of Freedom.
        That is the problem. And it is our task to overcome the Propaganda and convince those people of the benefits of Liberty — both Spiritual and Economical.
        I have longed for self-determination since my teenage years, so it’s difficult for me to understand why anybody would want to be under the thumbs of others. But that voluntary serfdom is apparently a reality. Our task is to reveal to those people the fact that with Freedom they have a choice.

        • Reggie

          Have you read “Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand?You should.Your remarks suggest that you are intelligent enough to understand what Rand was all about.Protecting the INDIVIDUAL from society.I am not a Dem or Repub.I am a Randite.I am against taxation.Giving your Government the power to levy taxes is consistent with selling your soul.The rich are rich because they EARNED it.(In most cases).The poor are worthless cancers who are ignorant,stupid,or lazy.The folks who create JOBS in this country are the inventors,investors,and CEO’s.Yet THEY get penalized for their vast contributions TO society in the form of taxes.The worthless poor contribute nothing,yet they are valueable to lib polits.As Hillary Rodham said,they are useful idiots who vote.

      • Gman

        Gilly: since I must be one of those who don’t have a clue, please fill me in. Not being a strict follower of the Constitution, as it was written for a select group of people, I had to look up the thirteenth and fourteenth amendments and the 1871 DC act. I got my info from Wiki Answers. The Thirteenth Amendment abolished slavery in the United States.
        The Fourteenth Amendment gave African Americans citizenship and that no state could deny the equal proctection of the law to all citizens.
        The Fifteenth Amendment gave all male citizens the right to vote.

        Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_did_the_thirteenth_fourteenth_and_fifteenth_amendments_say#ixzz1lF07lfSU

        Concerning the 1871 Organic Act i found this information:The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 aka “An Act to provide a Government for the District of Columbia (41st Congress, 3d Sess., ch. 62, 16 Stat. 419, enacted 1871-02-21) is an Act of Congress, which revoked the individual charters of the City of Washington, the City of Georgetown, and the County of Washington and created a new city government for the entire District of Columbia. The legislation effectively merged what had been separate municipalities within the federal territory into a single entity. It is for this reason that the city, while legally named the District of Columbia, is still commonly known as Washington, D.C. However, this act was abolished in 1874, and while the name did not change, the territorial Governor was replaced with a three-member Board of Commissioners appointed by the President. This system existed until 1974 when the District of Columbia Home Rule Act allowed for District residents to elect their own mayor. Info found in the Daily Render, Nicholas Schiller.
        So I want to believe that you are saying that the amendments allowed for previously owned “chattel” to become more productive free men” and therefore add more substance to the economy of the U.S. And the Organic Act was to enable the Government to become centralized concerning it’s power, enabling it to force it’s desires on all the people of the U.S. without incurring any individual liabilities for the “masters”. Please enlighten me if I have wrongly interpreted what your message is as I am thoroughly piqued interest wise.

        • Vigilant

          Gman, it was TIME, not Gilly, who made the ridiculous comments about USA, Inc.

          TIME and I went through this a few weeks ago, when I called him on this foolishneass and challenged him to quote ANYTHING out of the 1871 act that purports to do what he claims. I’m still waiting for an answer (which will never come, because the whole thing is another bogus conspiracy theory).

          The 1872 act merely did what thousands of US communities did and still do: it incorporated the District of Columbia to facilitate business transactions and define liabilities. I’ve read the act several times, as it is easily accessible on the Internet, and it does NOT incorporate the USA.

          TIME, I still await your answer. And I caution you, I expect nothing less than any quotation out of the act that does what you claim, NOT a second or third hand “what somebody else says” answer.

        • Vigilant

          Gman, I question your statement “Not being a strict follower of the Constitution, as it was written for a select group of people….”

          May I inquire which select group you are talking about?

          • Gman

            Hey Vig: Not long ago there was a staunch conservative who made a statement that summoned for me the notion that non white folks were not represented by the Constitution. Can’t remember his name but he posted an article on this site. He was making the overall statement that minorities were not the focus of the Constitution, as he denigrated people of color without using any overtly harsh language. I’m just repeating (paraphrasing) this gentleman’s thoughts. And besides, we al know that minorities have been given the shaft over the years and are yet still getting it. You folks are just mad that your own people are kicking you in the butt for that stuff you all love sooo much; moolah. As long as there is enough to go around and a few scraps can be doled out to the “less fortunate” everything is honky-dory. So get off your high-horse,and realize that you don’t mean dung to your own folks if you ain’t got no scratch.

          • JeffH

            Gman, you’re so full of it your eyes are brown!

          • Joe H.

            JeffH,
            I believe that more than his eyes are brown. I could care if he is Black, White Pink, or Purple, I just get tire of the same old” minorities are still getting the shaft” speech!!

      • mark

        Yeah, that terrible 13th amendment that ended slavery, we should definitely overturn that! What a mindset! You’re literally one hundred and forty-seven years behind the times. Let’s all go back to the good ol’ days of slavery! What a typical Libertarian stance. Let’s bring back child labor, drawing and quartering criminals in the town square, and denying voting rights to non-property holders as well. Oh and don’t forget the gold standard and no central bank. This is why if Ron Paul could run more than one thousand more times for President of the United States he would overwhelmingly lose over one thousand times. He has as good a chance a winning the U.S. presidency as Ahmadinejad.

        • TIME

          No Mark it did not, if you could in fact read and understand what you have reviewed it would have been quite clear.

        • kkflash

          Mark,
          Your lack of understanding of what a true Libertarian believes is eclipsed only by your inability to understand what you read. Ron Paul is one of the most freedom-loving patriots in this country, yet somehow you’ve twisted your understanding of his Libertarian message to be pro-slavery!? Please continue to rant and troll this website, as your thoughtless and inaccurate statements do much to crystallize the thinking of Libertarians, and to disillusion your liberal colleagues.

        • Brian

          If you think returning to the days of slavery is a typical Libertarian stance then you know absolutely nothing about libertarianism.

      • Sophocles

        Time…(2/2/12 7:57 am)..I don’t think your book of fiction will hit the best seller list. Don’t quit your day job!

      • wes

        Your message was quite hard to understand because you jump around too much and talk about issues as though everyone is supposed to know what you’re talking about.
        Most pople are not mindless sheep, they are simply a part of the system and don’t know any better. It isn’t like the behind closed door policies of our politicans are ever discussed openly, so how would the public know these things? I do because I pay attention and listen and read and I have a good grasp of how corrupt the system is, and how people like this current idiot are placed in power by their rich and powerful handlers. Unfortunatley most people are more interestd in everyday life and paying their bills to pay attention.

    • clarence swinney

      Total Wealth in Usa 54T–Total Income 12T
      Google to get world Wealth

      • Mac

        You have not piqued my interest enough to get me to look up your references, “54T” and “12T”. If you want people to pay attention to your coded message, give us more of hint as to what we will find there.

        • Joe H.

          Mac,
          Come on, man, don’t make it worse that it is!! 54 Trillion and 12 Trillion!! It’s not a CODE!!!

      • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

        Are you sure, Clarence, those numbers still stand today?

      • Warrior

        And this just sums up today’s predicament.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVseabUhg8M

    • clarence swinney

      FEW THINGS WE KNOW
      In oecd nations we rank
      #2 Least Taxed—30% of GDP from fedstatelocal
      #2 Least taxed corporations—- 1.5% of GDP
      # 4 Inequality–since 10% own 80% wealth and get 50% of income while 80% own 12% of wealth and get 12% of income.
      END OF EMPIRE straight ahead

      • DaveH

        Apparently, Clarence, your source is only counting Revenues. Government Revenues don’t tell the whole story because it’s the Spending (Revenues + Borrowing) that really counts. Total Government Spending in the US is 44% of the GDP.

        • DaveH

          Here are some figures for Government Spending for the Top Ten Economically Free countries (US being #10):
          Hong Kong — 17% of GDP
          Singapore — 17% of GDP
          Australia — 33% of GDP
          New Zealand — 43% of GDP
          Switzerland — 34% of GDP
          Canada — 44% of GDP
          Chile — 24% of GDP
          Mauritius — 24% of GDP
          Ireland — 48% of GDP
          United States — 42% of GDP

          http://heritage.org/index/explore?view=by-variables

          Note that the 44% of GDP spending for the US that I stated in the above comment came from another website that I had visited in the past, and can’t find now.

          • Flashy

            Yeah…all of those listed are well known for the militaries they have.

            take out the military budget…figures are MUCH different.

            The question then becomes, what’s the price willing to be paid for the huge military/industrial complex we desire?

          • DaveH

            I’m all for greatly reducing our Defense Spending. Are you, Flashman?

          • Flashy

            Absolutely. I do believe we need a two ocean navy, and I do believe we need a healthy but not oversized armed “boot’ force.

            If you rely on what the military states they need, you’ll not get a valid answer. They’ll need a doubling of the budget every year fer chrissakes.

            I think a defense budget pegged to the annual budget is appropriate. I believe Defense is 20% of the total budget. It went way up under the republican administration we suffered under. I think if the Defense came to 15% of the total budget, and let the JCS fight it out who gets what, we should be doing fine.

          • Mike in MI

            UHM-M-m-m Fleshy -
            With all your indepth can you get your director to divulge where he hides the budget so anyone, anywhere can get any sort of idea about how much is being spent anywhere. Why are they afraid to publish?
            Or, have they already published it on some gossamer veil that was so transparent we all missed the info?
            Or, was it printed and redacted (oblama’s version of publishing) in the Fast & Furious” info sent over to Congressman Issa’s committee?

          • Joe H.

            Yeah, Flashy, we gotta watch that Irish military!! 8500 active and 13000 reserve army, 933 in the airforce, 1144 in the navy, and operating 21 bases, all in Ireland, it sure is a domineering force!!!

          • wes

            Dave, Hong Kong is out a country, it is a city in China, so you can drop them. Id Ireland is 48% troour 44, then we would be #8, not 10 once you delete Hong Kong.

      • kkflash

        Not that I believe any of your uncited figures, but for argument let’s assume one of your statements is correct: “10% of the earners get 50% of income.” Here’s a fact and citation for you: Those 10% of taxpayers paid more than 70% of the US income taxes in 2009!
        http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html
        You may be right about the “inequality” issue after all. The top 10% are paying way more than their share of the taxes!

        • Flashy

          Then the answer is getting the lower incomes to a higher level. Difficult to do when the wealthy have all the cash and aren’t creating any jobs…

          • wes

            It’s difficult to create jobs in a down economy flashy, which shouldn’t be too hard to understand. I have lost 3 good customers in the construction industry over the last 2 years because they didn’t have the cash flow to survive, and the banks aren’t loaning money in spite of the fact that at least 40% of that failed stimulus money is still being held by said banks.
            This claass warfare BS Obummer is pulling on you is apparently working, even though it is a bunch of trumped up nonsense. The wealthy pay the majority of the taxes already, so penalizing them further would be economic suicide, which this administration can’t understand, or does and could care less.

        • http://personaliberty.com joem

          If the top 10% pay most of the income tax that is not helping much.the country is in a very big mess.correct me if i’m wrong but income tax is only a small part of the income needed to run the country.? sales,realestate,and the dozens of taxes are what pay the bills or am i wrong.?
          and with unemployment so high and all the foreclosures we’ve seen and are still seeing and no relief{jobs}insite what is it that you think we can do to stave off total collapes of our once great nation.?

          • Mike in MI

            joem -
            No answer after all this time? Fleshy must not have entree’ to Goebbels’ office this week.

      • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

        Clarence Swinney, raw statistics are never as clean cut as they appear, as some corporations pay taxes in other countries and then not taxed in the USA so that they dont get taxed twice. These agreements are made between some governments, so the raw low taxeation figures are not always accuratley reflected in the statistics.

        Then there are companies who transfer prices to low tax areas or increase or decrease the cost of money to increase or reduce profits in the highest taxing areas. So this I hope explains why your stats may not be too reliable and why the rates of taxation which your government wishes to increase…will not necessarily increase total revenues to the Federal Budgets.

        Taxation is a price too which also needs to be competitive with other nations, and the lower your percentage tax is, the higher your overall tax collections will be as corporations from abroad would freely and voluntarily move their head offices to the USA to reduce their tax rates and in so doing will creating more jobs with flow on effects in higher demand for office space, more support staff getting wages, more cafes providing lunches to the extra staff…it trickles down pretty fast and all those new job recipients will pay taxes on their new found incomes. Dr RON PAUL knows this stuff.

        • Mike in MI

          Well gee, GILLYS -
          Wouldn’t you think that even a commiemunity organgrinder could figure that out? And probably has at that. So, he has done everything he can to obfuscate. That way the bills come due next year which is when he’ll raise our taxes and blame it on his predecessor – Nasty Pelosiy and the ’08-’09 conservative congress led by none other than that awful “Contract on ‘Meric’r” Gingreich, hisself.
          That’s why I know he’s selling us downriver to George Soreass.

    • Ellen

      People coming out of prestigious universities with excellent grades may get great jobs, but they don’t get the top job. Also, Obama refuses to release his grades, so he may have been a ‘C’ student. Considering he can’t string together a grammatically correct sentence, it’s hard to believe he was an ‘A’ student.

      • Flashy

        yeah…it’s common knowledge C students are Presidents of the Harvard Law Review. He graduated with Honors, Magna Cum Laude

        • vic

          Hes so proud of his accomplishments that hes had his entire past records sealed. Yup, hes an open book(sarcasm).

        • DaveH

          You know you have no credibility on this board, Flashman, so how about you post some references to back that up?

        • http://html Bob

          GOODNIGHT MICHELLE, FKED THE HONKYS AGAIN TODAY. first time I ever even thought this.

          • JeffH

            JeffH says again: Bob, your comment was unnecessary!

          • Mac

            Until I read Obama’s “Dreams” book I didn’t believe he was such a racist either. People, just read the first half of the book – I can’t believe the Democrats would back someone who admitted to the thoughts and behavior he describes himself doing and having.

          • cawmun cents

            You mean you are suprised that those who advocate a”womans right to choice”and sponsor the killing of nearly 50,000,000 unborn people,would back Omamba?
            Hmmm.
            -CC.

        • TIME

          Flashie, Lets come back to earth for a moment can we?
          Can you prove that statment about the Harvard Law Review?
          NO – you sure can’t all you can do is parrot the BS you have been told. You have ZERO proof of anything, as in ZIP, NADA, NOTHING.

          • Flashy

            Prove he was President of the Harvard Law Review? Or prove he graduated with Honors?

            You have got to be kidding. Both are on record and easily found. Do a simple search.

          • JeffH

            Flash…then it’s easy eough for you to cite your source…isn’t that what you always ask??? You’re just another incredible Alinsky trained “monkey”.

          • Flashy

            LOL…you have no clue who Alinsky was do you? or that Dick Armey handed his books to the TP as guidebooks. It’s a foreign sounding name and it’s the latest ‘evil sounding name’ to toss out against Pres. Obama is all you know. BTW…Saul Alinsky died when Obama was about 13 or so…so saying Obama met or was taught by him (one of the latest claims0 is a lie.

            Fact is, Alinsky counted William F Buckley as one of his friends.

            Now..if you need someone to hold your hand to help you find Pres. Obama’s being Pres. of the harvard Law Review or graduating with honors…you are far below any mental acumen which i associate with.

          • Brad

            Flashy,

            I see you don’t know anything about Ohnumbnuts, his college transscripts are sealed to include his harvard law degree, so, if you have a resource post it, prove us wrong DUDE. If you can’t prove us wrong about Ohnumbnuts and his so called degrees and honor’s then sir you need to shut the Fin up…

          • Flashy

            Never said anything about his transcripts. I stated he graduated with honors 9magna Cum laude) which is an open and public information. I also stated he was President of the Harvard Law Review..again, open and public record.

            Hate ta tell you this…but one doesn’t earn graduating Magna Cum Laude without a nice GPA.

            So…why would you want his transcripts? you think harvard gives aways Honros and the Law Review picks C students?

          • JeffH

            Flashy, you brought this up yesterday and I responded to you directly…and yes, you are the consumate Alinskyite in every thing you say…you, sir, have learned your lessons well. But…so have many of the rest of us come to undrstand our the enemies amongst us, like you and your ilk, because we too have taken the time to read and understand the Alinsky methods. You fool no one!

            If you care to read what I posted, here it is.
            JeffH says:
            February 1, 2012 at 3:09 pm

            What is most amazing(not really) is that Flashy continues down the same path each and every day providing nothing more that talking points, rhetoric and all to often attempting to deflect and change the direction of a discussion with questions “of morality”. So Alinsky…

            You can go to the link and read the rest!
            http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-politics/the-winter-of-our-discontent/?replytocom=725776#respond

          • JeffH

            Flashy says DUH once again…”BTW…Saul Alinsky died when Obama was about 13 or so…so saying Obama met or was taught by him (one of the latest claims0 is a lie.”

            Now who said Obama met Alinsky? It was Hillary that met and was impressed by Alinsky…Obama just studied Alinsky…

            “Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.” –Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist Saul Alinsky

            Obama helped fund ‘Alinsky Academy’: “The Woods Fund, a nonprofit on which Obama served as paid director from 1999 to December 2002, provided startup funding and later capital to the Midwest Academy…. Obama sat on the Woods Fund board alongside William Ayers, founder of the Weather Underground domestic terrorist organization…. ‘Midwest describes itself as ‘one of the nation’s oldest and best-known schools for community organizations, citizen organizations and individuals committed to progressive social change.’… Midwest teaches Alinsky tactics of community organizing.”

            …. Obama spent years teaching workshops on the Alinsky method. In 1985 he began a four-year stint as a community organizer in Chicago, working for an Alinskyite group called the Developing Communities Project…. Camouflage is key to Alinsky-style organizing. While trying to build coalitions of black churches in Chicago, Obama caught flak for not attending church himself. He became an instant churchgoer.”
            http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm

          • Mac

            Flashy, it seems to me that Harvard would have as much interest as Obama in keeping his transcript secret, to cover up the fact that his Magna cum laude and other other honors were based on race and politics rather than his actual achievements. If he actually made good grades deserving of the honors he received, why would he and they NOT publish his transcripts?

        • DaveR

          Where are his scholarly law papers? All of the people I know who were on Law Review at their respective law schools have at least one paper published in their law review. And where are his scholarly papers/books from his association with the law school of University of Chicago, was not this supposed to be his primary reason for being there?

        • JeffH

          Bob, your comment was unnecessary!

          • noel

            (offensive words removed) bob was spot on!!! OBAMANOS!!!

        • Pariot

          Flashmann,

          My sources tell me that Obama never went or graduated from Havard, it is all a rouse to fool people like you!

          Prove me wrong, big boy!

          • eddie47d

            Instead of mocking Flashy Mr Pariot way don’t you prove him wrong! Look up Harvard Law Review yourself and the information is right there at you fingertips. Obama was elected as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review in 1990.It also says he went to the university between 1989-1993.

          • Flashy

            I’d have your sources prove they are right.

          • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

            Pariot

            Barack Obama
            http://www.nndb.com/people/208/000055043/ -
            Obama was raised by his mother until about age 10, when his maternal grandmother in Honolulu took him in. He graduated with honors from Harvard Law …

        • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

          Flashy

          College education of American presidents
          http://www.successdegrees.com/collegeeducationofamericanpresidents.html -
          A whole lot of them – 25 including Barack Obama – were lawyers, though not all of those 25 actually completed law …. Amherst College (graduated with honors) …

          • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

            flashy

            Michelle Obama Biography – Barack’s Wife
            http://www.woopidoo.com/biography/michelle-obama/index.htm -
            Obama went on to study at Princeton University where she majored in sociology and graduated with honors in 1985. She went on to study law at Harvard Law …

        • Patriot

          My sources are 100% correct, the reason the records are said to be sealed, is because there are no records! The records of his enrollment, how he paid for school and any record of his writings in the Review do not exist. The fraud with our President goes way beyond you will ever know! The Manchurian President is in the WH!

      • http://google gary gerke

        AMEN…..OUR PRESIDENT WILL NOT RELEASE HIS COLLEGE GRADES….WHY!!!!!!!!

        • Flashy

          Did Bush release his?

          • libertytrain

            don’t know don’t care. he’s not the president and hasn’t been for a few years now…. you sure spend a lot of time worrying about Bush.

          • Mac

            Yes, Bush’s records have been shown. Now show yours, and Obama’s.

          • Brian

            Yes and you liberals teased him about them. Why is Barry so afraid to release his?

      • Mike

        Yes, if only he could score high like Dubya in that regard.

      • Joe H.

        Ellen,
        There was a guy with a PHD that was interviewed by the news a while ago. Why? He was a floor sweeper. He couldn’t get a job in his chosen field!! A degree with even stellar grades doesn’t guarantee a good job or top wages!!

        • Joe H.

          Mr Livingston,
          could you please tell me why my comment is awaiting moderation? I don’t believe I have broken your rules and I haven’t been warned that I know of. Thanks in advance.

          • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear JoeH.,

            I’m afraid I cannot. I have checked our filter system and don’t find a post by you trapped anywhere. It must a gremlin of some kind. Sorry. Can you try and repost it?

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • Joe H.

            Bob,
            no need, the system let it go through. Must have been a glitch. I was worried I had eclipsed a rule I hadn’t read. Mea Culpa!

    • Onewomantaxpayer

      Gillsrooms, you are obviously asking this question using the mindset of a person who lives in a socialist country. In America, the government does not OWN all of the assets, money, stocks, bonds, buildings, land, furniture, etc. They only “OWN” that which they “take” from the individuals who earn those assets through their own hard work, or inheritance. If the government is spending more than it is taking in from tax revenues, a deficit results. If this practice continues, the deficit grows. Only two things can stop it: cut back on spending, or increase revenues. The major differences in the ideologies of the two major political parties lie in ways and means of cutting spending and growing revenues.

      • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

        Couldn’t there be a third solution? Like change the mindset of the swayed government by voting them out? and by instituting mandatory training courses for all the government bureaucrats – the so-called public servants – that they must go through and pass the final tests to prove their total dedication to the public welfare?

        • Mike in MI

          Tom the Observer -
          While you’re observing see if you can observe the hordes of people flocking to the polls to vote.
          I think maybe you need to change the last line above. Remove the words in the last line “…the public…”. Now you’ve got the facts.

    • JANIE PEASE

      SORRY gillysrooms, BUT YOU ARE WRONG, WRONG—business men are trained or have college degrees don’t let them fool you they know what they are doing and they are corrupt if they say they don’t know everything that’s going on that’s bull hockey….they have contacts and people working for them that are in the so called “field” outside the office that’s what they are getting paid for you lame brain or either they need to resign and get somebody that does know what they are doing or better yet maybe they were hired on false pretenses without being qualified like someone else we know…..BO

      As far as BO is concerned sounds like you are making excuses for him in that who knows if BO was a business person or not there was NO investigation on him you fool don’t you read the articles and he has YET to provide any valid credentials whatsoever…..get your head out of the sand and focus on R-E-A-L-I-T-Y

      • wes

        Have you ever seen or heard of a comma or a period there Janie? Wow…

    • eddie47d

      Why do Conservatives equate GE with Democrats when they have been an American Icon for over a century under Republicans and Democrats. Obama can’t stop GE from practicing Capitalism and getting the best deal for their company anymore than all the other Presidents. GE has been a Global Company for decades and has factories in several major countries including Brazil,China and Japan. They have expanded their business long before Obama so why the uproar now? Yes I know about the X-Ray facility of GE’s that just exported themselves to China. GE has been doing about 80% of their business overseas for their worldwide customers. So nothing is shocking about that if you believe in Free Enterprise. Yet as Conservatives say the government should not mettle in private business. So we really can’t do anything to bring them back unless THEY choose to.

      • JeffH

        eddie, eddie, eddie…”Obama can’t(won’t) stop GE from practicing (crony)Capitalism and getting the best deal for their company anymore than all the other Presidents.”

        Obama Empowers Jeffery Immelt, Chairman and CEO of General Electric, as the Ultimate Crony Capitalist? DUH!

        For the last three years, Mr. Immelt has been in the vanguard for this new relationship between business and government, as a member of the Administration’s “Economic Recovery Advisory Panel”.

        During the wild Congressional spending spree of the last couple of years, GE miraculously became the largest beneficiary of the government’s Troubled Asset Recovery Program (TARP) bank bailout. Although GE did not initially qualify for TARP, the company’s $18 million annual investment in battalions of Washington DC lobbyists convinced Administration regulators to push that “reset” button and extend TARP guarantees and subsidies to GE. Public records demonstrate GE Capital, the company’s massive financing arm, pocketed $120 Billion in loans from the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation at interest rates of less than 1% and snatched 25% of the entire $340 billion in subsidies from “Temporary Liquidity Guarantee Program” (TLGP) rescue fund.

        The Obama Administration has bank-rolled GE’s continued transformation from a consistently profitable American manufacturer to a predominantly off-shored and spectacularly leveraged financial casino powered by taxpayer dollars. The Administration and Jeffrey Immelt have greatly benefitted from their Crony Capitalism relationship…
        http://biggovernment.com/cstreet/2011/02/04/obama-empowers-jeffery-immelt-as-the-ultimate-crony-capitalist/

      • Brian

        Maybe ut has to do with the fact that GEs Imelt is a big Obama fan and that Obama brought Imelt in to create American jobs while at the same time his non-tax paying company was creating jobs in China with our money.

      • eddie47d

        Google: Ask Matt Krantz where he says GE didn’t really accept TARP money and the money they did accept was paid back with interest. So the government made a profit of about 2 billion from them.

    • Norm

      Nice write up – here in the most prosperous country that helps the world with our money, a degree is not enough. Hell even here one can sleep through classes and get a passing grade. And voting Not Present says one has not read the bills he votes on. Most of us do not dream and make a million. Knowledge beyond counting people is needed, but nice writing.Ge real.

  • Michael J.

    Mr. Root,
    Your points are well taken, but as a matter of fact 95% of PLD readers/contributors will consider you to be “Preaching to the choir”.

    But here’s an answer to your question anyway. Barack Hussein Obama II was appointed POTUS by the Rothschild family with all of the campaign and media hoopla being merely a formality. The CFR which was created to drive the media built him up and now have the option of continued support or tearing him down in support of their next puppet drone (Romney) at their discretion same as was done with Obama’s predecessor, Bush.

    And onward goes the perpetual right left paridigm mind game. The Rothschild plan for world domination is so dastardly, so destructive that it requires two parties in order to proceed undaunted. With only one party at their disposal, this downward spiral of the planned demise of capitalism and western society would die as a result of public disapproval and disgust. But by controling two parties, unaware and for the most part shocked voters wrongly assume that by voting out a “D” and replacing it with an “R” that things will somehow get better without realizing that same unseen, unelected wizard pulls the strings of both parties from behind the curtains.

    Oh woe is us.

    • Lastmanstanding

      Thank you MJ…you get it…how many more like us out there?

      • http://Elizabeth Elizabeth Olcese

        I get it and I have, but try to explain this to any liberal! I keep telling them, it’s not what you think and there are bigger things than left or right. We need to take back the government and the country FIRST, then worry about all the stuff we bicker about. And all the stuff we bicker about? Gee, wonder WHY! Could be that is how the Rothchild’s, etc. have it worked out. So we are too busy bickering about minutia while we are sheep being lead to the slaughter. Just point me to ground zero. I really DON’T want to be here in the end!

        • clarence swinney

          YOU HAD TOTClinton to Bush to Obama
          Who Dug the Deep Hole? Who Fumbled the ball?
          Numbers rounded

          Clinton left Bush an 1800B Budget
          Bush Left Obama a 3500 Budget

          Clinton left Bush a 240B Surplus as far as the eye can see
          Bush left Obama a 1400B Deficit as far as the eye can see

          Clinton left Bush 5,700B of Debt
          Bush left Obama 11,800B of Debt

          Clinton left Bush a 237,000 net new jobs created per month
          Bush left Obama a 31,000 lowest number since Hoover.

          Clinton left Bush 17 Million Manufacturing Jobs
          Bush left Obama 11 Million Manufacturing Jobs

          Clinton left Bush a 10,800 Dow
          Bush left Obama an 8028 Dow

          Clinton left Bush Peace on Earth Good Will From Most Men
          Bush left Obama Hell on Earth Two disastrous wars. Enmity of 1500 Million Muslims

          Clinton left Bush a President most highly rated of any peacetime President in Asia, Africa, Europe.
          Bush left Obama the most hated President in history
          Bush left Obama an Housing Tsunami and Financial Volcano
          Bush left Obama, in 2008, an 8500B Bail out commitment Yes! 8500 not just 700
          Bush left Obama his Takeover of Fannie/Freddie, AIG, and first bailout of Chrysler
          Bush increased maximum loan by Fannie/Freddie from $300,000 to $729,000
          Bush increased FDIC maximum deposit coverage from $100,000 to $250,000
           clarence swinney–political historian–lifeaholics of america burlington nc
          author-Lifeaholic–Life story of Workaholic failure to Lifeaholic success
          Best seller list in haw river nc population 200 and growingAL CONTROL OF OUR GOVERNMENT FOR 6 YEARS.THANKS.

          • Ellen

            Clarence, Your facts are twisted. Clinton left Bush a lower debt and annual surplus because of the Republican Congress that took over with the landslide mid-term elections. Clinton had us going in the opposite direction. Unfortunately for Bush, he had a Democratic Congress for his last 2 years and all the excess spending they could get into any bill that passed. Let’s also not forget that Bush and many Republicans in Congress tried for years to rein in Fannie & Freddie, but Democrats wouldn’t do it. That foolish notion that everyone should own a house caused the destruction of our economy. Our top people at the Fed were too naive to see the impact of the housing bubble on the entire economy. Currently, illegitimacy and illegal immigrants are destroying our economy, our school system and filling our prisons. These are 2 things Democrats love, so they won’t address the problem. When Republicans attempt to address the problems, they are labelled racists and genophobes. The idealists and ignorant believe them. We’ve become a country full of ignorant people who don’t stop and think things through; they simply believe the lies and distortions told to them. Is it any wonder the US is deteriorating?

          • Flashy

            Lest we forget…Bush was AWOL during a time of war, drove a few companies into the ground AND traded Sammy Sosa from the Rangers.

            Yet none of that mattered to the Right.

            Carter was a successful businessman. Ummm…. thinking about it, one would have to go a ways back to find a President who was successful in business and attained the WH.

            None of the current GOP contenders can state they were successful in business except for Romney. Good luck if you want Mitt in the WH…talk about a disaster

          • DaveH

            This isn’t a Football Game, Clarence. Who cares which Big Government Politician spent the most of our money wastefully? All that matters is that they’re doing it, and we need to stop them from doing it.

          • Wyatt

            Sorry , Obama is at the helm and it is his responsibility . The old “not My Fault” routine doesn’t fly . Every President in history has inherited the previous Presidents , success and failure’s and taken the responsibility for whatever their outcome was . I suppose that running the nations debt up to twice what it was when he took over is Bush’s fault ? This idiot has been office 3 years now and he is still singing its Bush’s fault . Who was sitting in the Oval Office when the country”s credit rating was down graded ? Barry Obama thats who ! So go peddle your liberal rhetoric elsewhere . The man is a failure from the word go , whats more , everyone with any sense knows it . Obama can’t accept that his beloved COMMUNIST form of government was a failure . In all it lasted 75 years total while the United States and her Constitution have been here for 200 plus years and did very well up until the bleeding hearts began their campaign of socialism . I suggest you take a look around and smell what you are shoveling . If allowed to continue , Obama and his Cronies will be the ones with the power and the money and his faithful liberal followers will be waiting on their welfare check and food stamps

          • JeffH

            clarence…you continue to post the “myth” of a Clinton surplus for Bush…either you know there never was one and are lying or you can’t be fixed…personally I think it’s both.

            ONE MORE TIME…Time and time again, anyone reading the mainstream news or reading articles on the Internet will read the claim that President Clinton not only balanced the budget, but had a surplus. This is then used as an argument to further highlight the fiscal irresponsibility of the federal government under the Bush administration.

            Yes, the deficit was almost eliminated in FY2000 (ending in September 2000 with a deficit of “only” $17.9 billion), but it never reached zero–let alone a positive surplus number. And Clinton’s last budget proposal for FY2001, which ended in September 2001, generated a $133.29 billion deficit. The growing deficits started in the year of the last Clinton budget, not in the first year of the Bush administration.

            Clinton clearly did not achieve a surplus and he didn’t leave President Bush with a surplus.
            http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16

          • DaveH

            Can you imagine, Jeff, if one of these Liberals was on trial for murder?
            ‘But your honor, Theodore Bundy killed 30 people. I only killed one’.

          • JeffH

            DaveH, yeah…they always have an excuse…

            My dad always said that excuses were for losers and it’s proven daily right here…then again, what else have we come to expect from these liberal types. Sheesh!

          • libertytrain

            Jeff, DaveH, our dear Claire has lost Bob. I just found out and tears are in my eyes for her and him.

          • JeffH

            libertytrain…My heart just sunk and I do feel the pain also! Please, if you will, pass on my deepest and heartfelt condolences to Claire and her family. My prayers are with Claire and her family.

          • libertytrain

            Jeff – consider it done.

          • kkflash

            Clarence:
            “Clinton left Bush a 10,800 Dow, Bush left Obama an 8028 Dow”
            The liberals’ Bush-bashing knows no end of fabrication, exaggeration, and misappropriation of facts.
            The actual facts are that Clinton, who took office on 1/20/93, presided over a Democratic Senate and House until 1/2/95, a time when the S&P 500 (a much broader measure of stock performance than the 30 stock Dow index)moved from 435 to 459 (decimals omitted). This lackluster performance of the stock market during the “Clinton/Democrat” years is +5.5% over 2 years, less than the commonly accepted rate of inflation.
            The Republicans gained control of BOTH houses in the 1994 elections, & from 1/2/95 until the end of his term in 1/19/01, the moderate Clinton, who was actually able to work with Republicans, saw the S&P 500 go from 459 to 1342, a prolific gain of 292%, or 19.6% annually over 6 yrs of Republican-controlled Congress.
            George W took office 1/20/01 with a narrowly Democratic Senate, and a narrowly Republican House, a condition which remained for 2 years, during which the S&P500 went from 1342 to 880 (the “dot.com bust”), a 2yr. loss of 65% with a mixed Congress.
            Republicans again gained control of both houses in the 2002 elections, and taking office 1/2/03, they presided for the next 4 yrs., while the S&P500 rose from 880 to 1418, a gain of 61%, or 12.7%annually.
            In Bush’s final 2 yrs. he was saddled with a narrowly Democratic Senate and heavily Democratic House. The result for the S&P500 was a 63% drop during the mortgage crisis from 1418 on 1/3/07 to 902 on 1/2/09, the day the then heavily Democratic Congress took their seats.
            The S&P recovered somewhat from the mortgage crisis during Obama’s first 2 yrs., going from 902 to 1272, a gain of 41%, and gained another 4% since with a mixed Congress. It’s still not reattained the heights reached 5 yrs. ago when Republicans were controlling all 3 positions.
            Over the last ~20 yrs. and 3 administrations, the facts show that large stock market gains have occurred with Republicans in control of the legislative branches, and stock market losses with a mixed Congress. An all-Democrat legislature produced large losses in one case, and gains in the other two.
            There’s no data to support the accusation that George W Bush was bad for stock markets, as he presided over both the greatest gains (under the Republican legislature) and the greatest losses, once under a Democratic and once under a mixed legislature.
            If stock market performance is any indicator of the nation’s economic health, we should all want Republicans in all 3 branches to achieve that best. Personally, I think Ron Paul in the White House, exercising fiscal restraint over a Republican Senate and House would produce the best combination for the economy and jobs.

          • Joe H.

            Kk,
            I suppose then by your train of thought that Bush is also responsible for the approximate seven year flux of the market?? WOW~!!! Is that man powerful!!!

      • Sirian

        Oh there’s plenty of us that understand it LMS. But the problem lies within the rest that refuse to see it or those that simply ignore it altogether. MJ is correct but still, those that are and will remain ignorant to the facts are what the parties feed off of. You play both sides against the middle and either way you go, D or R, control is maintainable.

      • Flo

        I get it too. Elections and the two parties are for the rubes so we feel like we have control of the elections. Sadam Hussein was the only guy on the ballot and won unapposed every election. In this country, the Rothschilds pick the two candidates so the election doesn’t really matter anyway. Note how the real patriots never get anywhere near the nomination election after election. They don’t have the right pedigree and backing and are made to disappear early in the phoney campaigns. Exception is Ron Paul but he will never get the nomination and his participation is just for entertainment.

        • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

          Flo, if what you and some others believe both D and R are puppets controlled by Rothchilds (who knows what) is true, then why not create one that does not behold to or plays the game for Rothchilds. I am sick and tired of hearing the notable political commentators that exhort their audiences to vote for the candidates that can win because they are affiliated with these two major parties but not necessarily bent on serving the Country and the People’s REAL INTERESTS. I do agree with Ellen, who says too many American Voters are not mentally educated enough to select the right Presidential candidate to serve. There is a lot to do and a long way to go to reform this Great Country!

    • vic

      Michael J, best post in awhile. there are SOME enlightened people out there. I have tried explaining this to people but they’re too stupid to listen as they are mired in the failed “Its Dems vs Reps” paradigm. Even when Obumma drives the US off a cliff if re-elected, who will the liberals blame? Bush jr, the arab spring, japan nuclear crisis, earthquakes, other natural disasters and republicans. being liberal means NEVER having to take personal responsibility.

    • Gman

      Michael: If you know this, and this is supposed to be a site that produces enlightened readers, smart Americans who want to set this country on the right path, why so much party politics associated with this site ? How can these “intelligent” Americans not see what you are seeing ? What party has ever been able to stay the course as far as the everyday American and his/her ability to process the “dream” is concerned ? Who gets screwed in terms of money distribution ? The wealthy scream about income redistribution because they don’ want the money they steal from working Americans to go to them/us. Why can’t the “smart” people wake up and at least attempt to take control of their destinies ? If we acted in concert just like the wealthy do I think we could make some headway. But as long as wee act like “sheeple” we will continue to be hearded, not heard. If a person wakes up after it’s too late does that mean they have always been asleep ? Folks, nobody is going to right this wrong for us. That’s just not the history of this fine country. We the PEOPLE have got to see to this OURSELVES.

  • http://mozilla Robert E. Lee

    want a President who HATES HIS COUNTRY; ELECT A PERSON WHO HAS MADE A LIVING OFF OF RABBLE ROUSING THE victims [supposedly], even though they are not victims;; they just want more had outs; and look, he is giving away America to the DO NOTHINGS TO EARN IT CROWD;; his voter base ;;get it?

    • clarence swinney

      Clinton to Bush to Obama
      Who Dug the Deep Hole? Who Fumbled the ball?
      Numbers rounded

      Clinton left Bush an 1800B Budget
      Bush Left Obama a 3500 Budget

      Clinton left Bush a 240B Surplus as far as the eye can see
      Bush left Obama a 1400B Deficit as far as the eye can see

      Clinton left Bush 5,700B of Debt
      Bush left Obama 11,800B of Debt

      Clinton left Bush a 237,000 net new jobs created per month
      Bush left Obama a 31,000 lowest number since Hoover.

      Clinton left Bush 17 Million Manufacturing Jobs
      Bush left Obama 11 Million Manufacturing Jobs

      Clinton left Bush a 10,800 Dow
      Bush left Obama an 8028 Dow

      Clinton left Bush Peace on Earth Good Will From Most Men
      Bush left Obama Hell on Earth Two disastrous wars. Enmity of 1500 Million Muslims

      Clinton left Bush a President most highly rated of any peacetime President in Asia, Africa, Europe.
      Bush left Obama the most hated President in history
      Bush left Obama an Housing Tsunami and Financial Volcano
      Bush left Obama, in 2008, an 8500B Bail out commitment Yes! 8500 not just 700
      Bush left Obama his Takeover of Fannie/Freddie, AIG, and first bailout of Chrysler
      Bush increased maximum loan by Fannie/Freddie from $300,000 to $729,000
      Bush increased FDIC maximum deposit coverage from $100,000 to $250,000
       clarence swinney–political historian–lifeaholics of america burlington nc
      author-Lifeaholic–Life story of Workaholic failure to Lifeaholic success
      Best seller list in haw river nc population 200 and growing

      • Michael H.

        See Ellen’s post above: You’re wasting your time as well as board space which could be used for better purposes IE. Spreading the truth about Abummer’s agenda’s as regards his communistic and socialistic views. As for the spending out of Washington the best way to stop it is to quit funding it. Stop filing Federal Income Taxes. They can’t put the entire population (or rather the portion they claim should be paying taxes) in jail.

        • Thinking about

          What Ellen forgot to add was Bush and his Republican congress icnreased the spending and so if the republican congress was responsible for the balanced budget in Clinton adminstration then it was some of the same who increased the spending..I know I am wasting my time giving this information but here it is, deal with the truth.

          • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

            This is for Thinkingabout. Take a survey of who made up the Congress during Bush and Clinton’s terms and when the spending shot up and who exactly voted to up the spending and for what purpose, then perhaps you can a better and more just assessments. Your political dialectics are full of holes! Don’t crown it with “TRUTHS”!

          • JeffH

            Thinking about, you’re right about wasting time…our time that is.
            Why do you liberals continue to lie about a balanced budget under Clinton when there never was one. It’s a myth, never happened and Clinton never left Bush a surplus either…just as Bush never left Obama one.

          • Thinking About

            Tom you have ask the easiest question I have had in years. For the first six years of GWB administration there was a republican majority in Congress. Since this might be news to you perhaps a small amount of searching might bring you the rest of the facts, read it and weep.

      • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

        Sorry I might offend you. But your statements are all basically deformed by your eagerness to defend one side against the other. It does not take a genius to know that the fortune of a country, especially this Country of such an extraordinary background, is built on a long line of events and developments. To accredit Clinton for all the successes this Country had achieved through several decades is like giving kudos to a teenage heir for the success of a multi-billion dollars corporation he has just inherited. I personally had heard people of other countries snickered at Clinton’s Lincoln Bedroom’s rentals. And I certainly cannot believe Carter being pictured as a consummate CEO just because he was good at his peanut business. There is quite a difference between peanut business and other much more complex or sophisticated businesses. And, besides, your stats are not exact and have no base to stand on.

      • Joe H.

        Clarence,
        I’LL POST THIS IN CAPS, SO YU CAN SEE IT. CLINTOON DID NOT LEAVE A SURPLUS!!! DID YOU CATCH IT THAT TIME???? Clinton simply spent the same money (social security) TWO places at the same time!!! Can you go into a store, buy a beer, walk out and into another and buy another beer with the same cash? NO!! Hopefully that brought it down to a level that even YOU can understand!!

        • Joe H.

          Goog Lord in Heaven!!!! I just realized how Abummer got elected!!!!

          • Joe H.

            Make that Good Lord in Heaven. not GOOG!

  • Bob Wilson

    The following makes you wonder why he ever got elected!
    Let’s review a little:
    There is an obvious agenda and we are living through the fundamental transformation of our country. Undeniably, there is no accident or coincidence. These are verifiable facts and incidents. Do you think it matters now?
    WHEN Obama wrote a book and said he was mentored as a youth by Frank (Frank Marshall Davis) an avowed Communist, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN it was discovered that his grandparents were strong socialists who sent Obama’s mother to a socialist school where she was introduced to Frank Marshall Davis. He was later introduced to young Barrack Hussein Obama. People said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN people found out that Barrack Hussein Obama was enrolled as a Muslim child in school and his father and stepfather were both Muslims, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he wrote in another book he authored “I will stand with them (Muslims) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction” people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he admittedly, in his book, said he chose Marxist friends and professors in college– people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he traveled to Pakistan after college on an unknown national passport, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he sought the endorsement of the Marxist Party in 1996 as he ran for the Illinois Senate, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he sat in a Chicago Church for twenty years and listened to a preacher spew hatred for America and preach black liberation theology, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN an independent Washington organization, that tracks Senate voting records, gave him the distinctive title as the “most liberal senator,” people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN the Palestinians in Gaza set up a fund raising telethon to raise money for his election campaign, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN his voting record supported gun control, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he refused to disclose who donated money to his election campaign, as other candidates had done, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he received endorsements from people like Louis Farrakhan and Mum-mar Kadaffi and Hugo Chavez, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN it was pointed out that he was a total newcomer and had absolutely no experience at anything except community organizing, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he chose friends and acquaintances such as Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn who were revolutionary radicals, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN his voting record in the Illinois senate and in the U.S. Senate came into question, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he refused to wear a flag lapel pin, and did so only after a public outcry, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN people started treating him as a Messiah and children in schools were taught to sing his praises, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he stood with his hands over his groin area for the playing of the National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he surrounded himself in the White House with advisors who were pro-gun control, pro- abortion, pro-homosexual marriage and wanting to curtail freedom of speech to silence the opposition people said it didn’t matter..
    WHEN he aired his views on abortion, homosexuality and a host of other issues, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he said he favors sex education in kindergarten, including homosexual indoctrination, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN his personal background was either scrubbed or hidden and nothing could be found about him, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN the place of his birth was called into question, and he refused to produce a birth certificate, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he had an association in Chicago with Tony Rezco. . . a man of questionable character and who is now in prison and had helped Obama to a sweet deal on the purchase of his home– people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN it became known that George Soros, a multi-billionaire Marxist, spent a ton of money to get him elected, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he started appointing White House Czars that were radicals, revolutionaries, and even avowed Marxist/Communist, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he stood before the Nation and told us that his intentions were to “fundamentally transform this Nation” into something else, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN it became known that he had trained ACORN workers in Chicago and served as an attorney for ACORN, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he appointed cabinet members and several advisors who were tax cheats and socialists, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he appointed a Science Czar, John Holdren, who believes in forced abortions, mass sterilization and seizing babies from teen mothers, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he appointed Cass Sunstein as Regulatory Czar who believes in “Explicit Consent,” harvesting human organs without family consent, and allowing animals to be represented in court, while banning all hunting, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he appointed Kevin Jennings, a homosexual, and organizer of a group called gay, lesbian, straight, education network as Safe School Czar and it became known that he had a history of bad advice to teenagers, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he appointed Mark Lloyd, as Diversity Czar, who believes in curtailing free speech; taking from one and giving to another to spread the wealth; who supports Hugo Chavez, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN Valerie Jarrett was selected as Obama’s Senior White House Advisor and she is an avowed Socialist, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN Anita Dunn, White House Communications Director said Mao Tse Tung was her favorite philosopher– and the person she turned to most for inspiration, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he appointed Carol Browner as Global Warming Czar, and her being a well-known socialist working on Cap and Trade as the nation’s largest tax, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he appointed Van Jones, an ex-con and avowed Communist as Green Energy Czar, who since had to resign when this was made known, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN Tom Daschle, Obama’s pick for health and human services secretary could not be confirmed, because he was a tax cheat, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN as President of the United States , he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia , people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he traveled around the world criticizing America and never once talking of her greatness, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN his actions concerning the Middle-East seemed to support the Palestinians over Israel , our longtime ally, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he took American tax dollars to resettle thousands of Palestinians from Gaza to the United States , people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he upset the Europeans by removing plans for a missile defense system against the Russians, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he played politics in Afghanistan by not sending troops early-on when the Field Commanders said they were necessary to win, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he started spending us into a debt that was so big we could not pay it off, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he took a huge spending bill under the guise of stimulus and used it to pay off organizations, unions, and individuals that got him elected, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he took over insurance companies, car companies, banks, etc., people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he took away student loans from the banks and put it through the government, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he designed plans to take over the health care system and put it under government control, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he claimed he was a Christian during the election and tapes were later made public that showed Obama speaking to a Muslim group and ‘stating’ that he was raised a Muslim; was educated as a Muslim; and that he is still a Muslim. . . people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he set into motion a plan to take over the control of all energy in the United States through Cap and Trade, people said it didn’t matter.
    WHEN he finally completes his transformation of America into a Socialist State , people will finally wake up. . . but it will be too late.
    Add these up one by one and you get a phenomenal score that points to the fact that Barrack Hussein Obama is determined to turn America into a Marxist-Socialist society.

    Two Things to Think About!
    “The penalty that good men pay for not being interested In politics is to be governed by men worse than themselves.”-PLATO.
    “A Constitution Of Government Once Changed From Freedom, Can Never Be Restored. Liberty, Once Lost, Is Lost Forever.” ~JOHN ADAMS
    NEXT TIME DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

    • Bill Lee

      You are oh so right in your assessment. Good quotes to! Thanks for doing you homework.

      • Flashy

        He forgot to list the fathering of a child out of wedlock when he coupled with an alien from outer space.

        What a crock of BS….

        • Dale on the left coast

          Flashy . . . which item is WRONG?
          He did miss the Chicago Boys Club though . . . lol
          6 Trillion and counting by the “Pretend” pres . . .

        • Brad

          Hey Flashy,

          Truth hurts doesn’t it…

        • Blue Devil

          Flashy — I had not heard of that incident! Would you care to document it? Snicker, snicker!

          • Joe H.

            Flashy? Document?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    • Warrior

      Ya see Bob, the “progressives” have all sorts of cats that dirty their sandbox.

    • clarence swinney

      Obama was elected because of his predecessor sordid record
      Clinton to Bush to Obama
      Who Dug the Deep Hole? Who Fumbled the ball?
      Numbers rounded

      Clinton left Bush an 1800B Budget
      Bush Left Obama a 3500 Budget

      Clinton left Bush a 240B Surplus as far as the eye can see
      Bush left Obama a 1400B Deficit as far as the eye can see

      Clinton left Bush 5,700B of Debt
      Bush left Obama 11,800B of Debt

      Clinton left Bush a 237,000 net new jobs created per month
      Bush left Obama a 31,000 lowest number since Hoover.

      Clinton left Bush 17 Million Manufacturing Jobs
      Bush left Obama 11 Million Manufacturing Jobs

      Clinton left Bush a 10,800 Dow
      Bush left Obama an 8028 Dow

      Clinton left Bush Peace on Earth Good Will From Most Men
      Bush left Obama Hell on Earth Two disastrous wars. Enmity of 1500 Million Muslims

      Clinton left Bush a President most highly rated of any peacetime President in Asia, Africa, Europe.
      Bush left Obama the most hated President in history
      Bush left Obama an Housing Tsunami and Financial Volcano
      Bush left Obama, in 2008, an 8500B Bail out commitment Yes! 8500 not just 700
      Bush left Obama his Takeover of Fannie/Freddie, AIG, and first bailout of Chrysler
      Bush increased maximum loan by Fannie/Freddie from $300,000 to $729,000
      Bush increased FDIC maximum deposit coverage from $100,000 to $250,000
       clarence swinney–political historian–lifeaholics of america burlington nc
      author-Lifeaholic–Life story of Workaholic failure to Lifeaholic success

      • thin line academy

        Clinton was hated in africa lest we forget mogadishu, not to mention clinton never had to stand america on his shoulders after the greatest attack on US Soil. Clinton was a coward and a hipocrit who was the first president to not give a cost of living increase to the us military personel. Clinton never had to start a war because he was the most laughed at president in US History as noted by key world leaders. The only reason clinton was loved in Asia was because of his various trade agreements that began this entire economic slide. Learn your economics before you open your mouth. I stand behind bush for ever because he HAD to make decisions these other two POTUS never could…

      • Vigilant

        Swinney, for a person who claims to be a “political historian,” that’s one word too many. Political, undoubtedly, historian, not a chance.

        I normally bypass your long list of unqualified statistics, half-truths and lies, but today as I was scrolling through your third identical posting, the following caught my eye: “Clinton left Bush Peace on Earth Good Will From Most Men.”

        Convenient memory, sonny. If Clinton had not refused to apprehend or kill Bin Laden when offered to him on a silver platter more than once, much of the carnage that followed would never have happened. Granted, that’s an “inconvenient truth” for you, but truth nonetheless.

      • Joe H.

        clarence,
        you DO know what repeating the same thing over and over and over and expecting a different outcome is, don’t you?? no matter how many times you repeat it, it isn’t going to make it the truth!!! Is insanity rampant in you family tree?

    • Eddie

      People said it didn’t matter……Then they called you racist. WELL,,,,it does matter. Obama MAY have been born an American, but he surely was not raised as an American.

    • kkflash

      What a great compilation of Obama’s accomplishments. And all can be readily proven.

  • Dave

    Once again, another ignorant right wing article… A community organizer should not be president…

    Lets review… George W Bush… Do you conservatives remember him? Funny none of the republicans running for office say they are Bush Republicans. Why is that? He had all of the right wing loon qualifications. military experience (Did a fine job protecting Alabama from the Viet-Kong “0″ attacks on his watch), business experience with 3 companies (too bad he ran them all into ground) and Gov expeience (Gov of TX and his big achievement is?) But somehow.. Bush was the worst president in the past 150 years, 9/11 happened on his watch, the economy collapsed on his watch, 5T in new debt is attributed to HIS policies while 987B of new debt is attributed to policies Obama put in. (look it up)

    Obama is not a great president for sure but this guy talking about Obama and belittling him because he decided to help poor people as opposed to making tons of money in private law practice is just silly considering the GOP picked the worst president in the past 150 yeas and they thought a Hollywood actor made sense to put in the WH and it was his voodoo economics that set the stage for the economy collapsing due to deregulation, bad trade policy and tax cut and borrow.

    Obama also had to deal with a GOP who’s only stated goal per Mitch McConnell and Rush Limbaugh is to make sure Obama and the country fails so they can regain power and help destroy the country like the disaster we had from 2001-2006. (Where was the tea party? Oh… being hatched up by Dick Armey and the Koch Brothers to rebrand the the GOP in 2007). How many filibusters were put forth under Obama buy the GOP Senate, now comapare against 1994-2006 when the Dems were the minority. The GOP purposefully obstructs during the week and then goes on TV on the weekend complaining how little Obama has done. The economy is slowing turning around despite the GOP’s efforts and that does not bode well for their 2012 election prospects.

    Conservatives can make a fine bumper sticker, run a good ad campiagn…they just can’t lead for the benefit of most Americans.

    • cthru

      WOW! You said it all and very well–especially the last sentence.

      • smilee

        “DITTO”

      • Flashy

        Absolutely nailed it.

    • Bill Lee

      You are so brainwashed it’s not funny. Obama has outspent all past presidents combined since the founding of our country. He has repeatedly lied and broken the oaths he said when sworn into office. He’s BY FAR the worst POTUS we’ve ever had and should be thrown in jail as a traitor.

      • Dave

        Bill,

        Sorry that is a lie… 979B in new debt is attributed to policies Obama put forth. that includes the stimulus amnd the HC law. Policies George W Bush put in place accounted for 5T in new debt.

        I know its tough for you right wing loons to understand that things on Fox news and right wing talk radio are false at times but this BS you state is the biggest whopper this side of “Obama is not a US Citizen”

        • DaveH

          Oh come on, Dave. You’re equivocating. Obama could have stopped any of those expenditures if he wanted. And can you cite references for your claims?
          Here’s a site which shows that just the Stimulus Spending under Obama exceeded $3 Trillion:
          http://stimuluspackagedetails.com/total.html

          • Dave

            Come on yourself.

            http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2011/07/bush-vs-obama-on-spending-its-no.html

            Look that polcies started by each. Obama could NOT stop both wars on a dime, The GOP held the unemployement benefiot for millions of people hostage so the Bush tax cuts could continue (here is a hint, the rich do not need or deserve those tax cuts, the tax rate under Reagan was bad? Yes or no? How did the rich do under reagan?)

            Read and learn

          • DaveH

            Learn what, Dave? To be as ignorant as yourself?
            Obama promised in Campaign Speeches to get out of Iraq in March of 2009. It didn’t happen, did it?
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WYTKj8pU5M
            And don’t cite his recent withdrawal (2 years late) because that was compelled by the Iraqi Leaders who didn’t want us in their country any longer.

          • DaveH

            All one needs to do is look at the chart here to know, Dave, that your cited article is full of it:
            http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_spending_chart

        • Joe Brooks

          Hey Dave

          Unfortunately I do not see either party as advocating for the vast majority of Americans. BO is just another Communist/Corporatist slave labor exploiter, placed in his position to spout free trade propaganda and add more Americans to the unemployment line and Federal dependency, pushing wages down even more. Notice he just passed 3 more “free trade” agreements.

          Here are some interesting discussions of “free trade” with Red China that you may want to watch. I find it incredible that the USA, the supposed leader of the free world, would employ/enrich the State Capitalistic Communist slavers in any way, shape or form.

          Dave H, please watch these and then comment.

          http://www.tradereform.org/2012/01/connecting-the-dots-on-trade/

          Cleon knew what he was talking about:

          4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Naked_Communist

        • Flashy

          I don’t know. Hard to list the lies and whoppers from the Right. I’ve pretty much taken the view that if it’s cited by the GOP, the TP, or the American Taliban … it’s suspect. The wealthy are “job creators” and “we are patriots!” rank right up there as well.

          Lest we not forget the various claims attributed to “Founding Fathers” (which requires an assumption that the hundreds in that category all thought alike), or claims some act or policy is “unconstitutional’ (despite numerous court rulings to the contrary), etc etc

          • Joe H.

            Flashy,
            Yup, like if it is submittede as a bill it will be on CNN!! Oh wait, that was Abummer. If i don’t turn the budget around in three years, I will be a one term president and rightfully so! Wait that was Abummer too! I will close gitmo my first year in office! Nope that was Abummer as well. Well for sure this, I will have us out of iraq within a year! Once again Abummer! Darn, I guess there are quite a few whoppers told by your hero out there, as well!!!

    • FreedomFighter

      “Once again, another ignorant right wing article… A community organizer should not be president…

      Once again Dave uses insult to make a pointless point of some kind, A commu;nity organizer is a socialist/communist and should never be president of a free nation.

      “Lets review… George W Bush… Do you conservatives remember him? Funny none of the republicans running for office say they are Bush Republicans. Why is that? He had all of the right wing loon qualifications. military experience (Did a fine job protecting Alabama from the Viet-Kong “0″ attacks on his watch), business experience with 3 companies (too bad he ran them all into ground) and Gov expeience (Gov of TX and his big achievement is?) But somehow.. Bush was the worst president in the past 150 years, 9/11 happened on his watch, the economy collapsed on his watch, 5T in new debt is attributed to HIS policies while 987B of new debt is attributed to policies Obama put in. (look it up)”

      Obama has held office for 3 years plus, its his economy, his ever mounting debt, his deliberate destr
      uction of the American system. As president, he owns everything done or not done under his watch.

      “Obama is not a great president for sure but this guy talking about Obama and belittling him because he decided to help poor people as opposed to making tons of money in private law practice is just silly considering the GOP picked the worst president in the past 150 yeas and they thought a Hollywood actor made sense to put in the WH and it was his voodoo economics that set the stage for the economy collapsing due to deregulation, bad trade policy and tax cut and borrow.”

      Not only is Obama not a great president, he is probably the worst in the history of the United States, what ever the rest of your spewing is irrelevant.

      “Obama also had to deal with a GOP who’s only stated goal per Mitch McConnell and Rush Limbaugh is to make sure Obama and the country fails so they can regain power and help destroy the country like the disaster we had from 2001-2006. (Where was the tea party? Oh… being hatched up by Dick Armey and the Koch Brothers to rebrand the the GOP in 2007). How many filibusters were put forth under Obama buy the GOP Senate, now comapare against 1994-2006 when the Dems were the minority. The GOP purposefully obstructs during the week and then goes on TV on the weekend complaining how little Obama has done. The economy is slowing turning around despite the GOP’s efforts and that does not bode well for their 2012 election prospects.”

      Wow you have just found out the Amerian system is not a dictatorship, I know how confused you can be considering Obamas now acting as a dictator. Obama has done nothing to enrich the American People or make America a better place, only thing he does is something that will maintain his power.

      “Conservatives can make a fine bumper sticker, run a good ad campiagn…they just can’t lead for the benefit of most Americans.

      Anyone with an average intellect and a history book can prove you in error, starting with George Washington and working forward.

      You sir are nothing but an excuse maker for a failure of a president that should have stayed a community organizer, rabble rousing other socialist commis such as youself.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • Dave

        Well Freedom,

        Glad you understand the United States is not a dictatorship. If you understand that so well then why do you blame Obama for the economy?

        What exactly has Obama done to warrant the worst president in history?

        Did a major attack happen on his watch?
        Did he use that attack to invade and occupy a country that had nothing to do with the attack?
        Did he engage in two wars and give out tax cuts while increased spending?
        Did he fumble the fed response a disaster badly (Katrina)?
        Did his branch out a CIA agent?
        Did he come up with the Patriot Act?
        Did he expand the Fed Gov?

        Nope… that was Bush but you are completely brainwashed by the right wing loon media.

        Semper Fi

        • DaveH

          Dave says “Did he [Obama] use that attack to invade and occupy a country that had nothing to do with the attack?”.
          No, Dave, he attacked Libya, Unconstitutionally, and without any provocation whatsoever.
          Dave says “Did he engage in two wars and give out tax cuts while increased spending?”.
          No, Dave, he engaged in three wars and gave out stimulus packages to Crony Capitalists which the taxpayers are now on the hook for.
          Dave says “Did he come up with the Patriot Act?”.
          No, Dave, but he also didn’t let it expire, did he?
          Dave says “Did he expand the Fed Gov?”.
          Surely that was a joke, Dave? Maybe it wasn’t, you being an Ignorant Liberal.

          • Dave

            DaveH,

            The one area that Obama lost jobs was the Gov sector. He has shed jobs there…

            You are correct Obama continued the Patriot Act, Gitmo is still open but the reality is… Your side CREATED BOTH!!!

            Now on to Libya. You are correct, Obama did not do the right thing as far as consulting Congress. He deserves flak for that. But lets compare. Iraq vs Libya.

            Iraq has cost this country 1.7T to date, 3T when its all said annd done (VA HC, reconstruction etc) and over 5000 Americans dead and 30000 permantently indured for what again???

            Libya has cost this country 1B and ZERO American lives.

            It is the difference between the conservative way of doing things and the smart way.

          • DaveH

            Dave,
            When one talks about the size of Government, one talks about their total spending, regulations, etc.
            Obama has certainly not Shrunk Government.

            And “my side” (the Libertarian side) had nothing to do with the Patriot Act.

            And there is NO comparing Libya, Dave, only a Liberal Mind can justify an Unconstitutional murderous excursion into Libya which attacked us in no way.

            By the way, if you had any brains at all, Dave, you’d remember that I don’t support any of the military excursions.

          • Flashy

            A question;

            “he attacked Libya, Unconstitutionally, and without any provocation whatsoever”

            Ummm…so you take the position Muammar Qadaffy wasn’t a threat to the US? That Lockerbie, the german nightclub bombings killing American Servicement, and the numerous KNOWN fiundings of terrorist attacks mean diddly squat in realtion to our safety? And President Obama’s assistance under alliance treaty with NATO is a bad thing?

            Interesting you are such an advocate of Muammar, and what he stood for and symbolized…

          • DaveH

            I take the position, Flashman, that Libya was NOT a threat to the United States at the time Obama attacked, and more importantly they had in no way attacked the United States:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution
            “the President can send U.S. armed forces into action abroad only by authorization of Congress or in case of “a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces”.

          • Flashy

            1. No President, including Reagan, ever recognized the war Powers Act as being valid.
            2. So Muammar wasn’t a danger to the US eh? So what would you need to have him as a danger? Another Lockerbie? Another seies of nightclub bombings killing scores of US servicemen and women? That’s like saying bin Laden wasn’t a danger to us after 9/11 …. jeesh.

          • Joe H.

            Dave,
            What about the jobs lost to the construction trades with the loss of the pipeline? What about all the jobs lost in the alternate energy corps that got almost a billion dollars of taxpayer money then went bankrupt??

        • FreedomFighter

          Semper Fi in your post — loyal to what?

          Laus Deo — Praise be to God
          Semper Fi– Allways loyal

          basic translation, since this is pointed in my direction as a sub-message within a message, a weak attack by a weak mind and soul, consumed with self loathing and hate, I pity a man without god and loath servants of the enemy.

          I have read the book, it ends badly for Lucys and Tares.

          Laus Deo
          Semper Fi

          • Dave

            Loyal to the United States…

            Which is more than I can say for anyone who voted for NAFTA (a GOP idea) or any free trade agreement with a country that pays their people pennies on the dollar, allows any foriegn national company or country to have a say in US politics and policy or voted for the BS war in Iraq.

            What are you loyal to? Hmmm? The idea the invasion and occupation of Iraq was done to protect our freedom? Are you that much of a sheep?

          • Joe H.

            Dave,
            I believe Nafta was brought up during CLINTOONS reign!!

    • Capitalist at Birth

      Your ignorance is astounding. Congratulations.

      • clarence swinney

        IGNORANCE? HERE IS SAMPLE

        Clinton to Bush to Obama
        Who Dug the Deep Hole? Who Fumbled the ball?
        Numbers rounded

        Clinton left Bush an 1800B Budget
        Bush Left Obama a 3500 Budget

        Clinton left Bush a 240B Surplus as far as the eye can see
        Bush left Obama a 1400B Deficit as far as the eye can see

        Clinton left Bush 5,700B of Debt
        Bush left Obama 11,800B of Debt

        Clinton left Bush a 237,000 net new jobs created per month
        Bush left Obama a 31,000 lowest number since Hoover.

        Clinton left Bush 17 Million Manufacturing Jobs
        Bush left Obama 11 Million Manufacturing Jobs

        Clinton left Bush a 10,800 Dow
        Bush left Obama an 8028 Dow

        Clinton left Bush Peace on Earth Good Will From Most Men
        Bush left Obama Hell on Earth Two disastrous wars. Enmity of 1500 Million Muslims

        Clinton left Bush a President most highly rated of any peacetime President in Asia, Africa, Europe.
        Bush left Obama the most hated President in history
        Bush left Obama an Housing Tsunami and Financial Volcano
        Bush left Obama, in 2008, an 8500B Bail out commitment Yes! 8500 not just 700
        Bush left Obama his Takeover of Fannie/Freddie, AIG, and first bailout of Chrysler
        Bush increased maximum loan by Fannie/Freddie from $300,000 to $729,000
        Bush increased FDIC maximum deposit coverage from $100,000 to $250,000
         clarence swinney–political historian–lifeaholics of america burlington nc
        author-Lifeaholic–Life story of Workaholic failure to Lifeaholic success
        Best seller list in haw river nc population 200 and growing

        • DaveH

          I’m only going to address one thing here because I usually quit reading a person’s comment after one detected falsehood.
          Clarence says “Clinton left Bush 5,700B of Debt
          Bush left Obama 11,800B of Debt”.

          From Politifact:
          http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jan/22/rahm-emanuel/5-trillion-added-national-debt-under-bush/
          “When Bush took office, the national debt was $5.73 trillion. When he left, it was $10.7 trillion”.
          You’re off by a Trillion, Clarence. I know, chump change to a Liberal.

        • DaveH

          Bush was a rabid spender. We know that. But Bush’s rabid spending does not excuse Obama’s even more rabid spending.
          Only in Liberal minds do Two Wrongs Make a Right.

          • Dave

            DaveH,

            Once again, you leave a few things out. Bush had help… You brain dead conservatives love to talk about smaller gov and fiscal responsibility when you are the minority in Congress. When you get in, you have expanded the Fed Gov (See Reagan and Bush 2) and spend like crazy.

            Conservatives suffer from selective amnesia and if you want to find out about who crashed the economy, watch “Inside Job”. Then you will see how the big bank invasion of the Fed, the reregulation of the banks and wall street (which you nutballs think is a good idea) and bad trade policy geared to break whats left of the unions up. Unions BTW moron is the only seat the middle class and poor in this country have at the money table. But people like you are brainwashed to go against your own finanial interests and think that corporations and the “free” market are omnipotent and do now wrong. Well we got an education in 2007 how wrong conservatives are once again.

      • Dave

        Typical right wing critical thinking right there.

        What is your MENSA number?

        • El Gringo

          What is your MENSA number Dave?

          • Mike in MI

            Hey El Gringo -
            Liberals don’t get a MENSA number. They get a menses number – measured in gallons.

    • clarence swinney

      Great. So good to read a Wee bit of truth here
      1980-2009—we borrowed 13,000B–10,000 by three so called conservative presidents. Our Tax book was used as a Christmas Tree for goodies for Rich and corporations.
      Today, were we to burn the Tax Book we get an added 2500B of revenue or a huge surplus. Rich will never allow it.
      In oecd nations our ranking:
      #2–least taxed 30% of gdp in fed state local
      #2 least taxed corporations—1.5% of gdp (6% in past)
      #4 Inequality–10% own 80% wealth and get 50% income As 80% own 12% and get 12% income big time inequality

      • Brad

        Clarence,

        Answer a few questions,

        1. Why is the US deficit 101% of GDP?

        2. Why is US spending at 46.6% of GDP?

        3. Why has congress spent us to the tune of some 7.2 trillion in deficit spending since 2007?

        Inquiring minds want to know why, dino’s have been in charge since 2007 then in 2010 the dino’s and rino’s. I blame both sides of the house, but I blame Ohmama even more becuase of his ideology and blatent hate for America.

      • Brad

        Hey Clarence, are you envious of the rich, is it because you never made anything of yourself?

        • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

          Brad, I just venture to guess. Clarence is a loyal and staunch subscriber to Obama’s ideology and principle, which is shown throughout his presidential campaign: REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH.
          Why work when you can just by “law” take from others (those who have worked)? At least he does not resort to killing them by guns or hard labor camps like in China from 1950′s to 1970′s. But he uses “laws”, “executive orders” and maybe some other new “inventions”. He is such a creative Community Organizer! He does not abolish Patriot Act; he can now use it for his intelligence collection; he even exhorts people to make reports directly about anything suspicious of malcontent of his policies. Etc. etc. etc!

    • DaveH

      Do you even know what a Right-Winger is, Dave?
      Read this FREE (being a Liberal, you ought to love that) Book by Lew Rockwell and grow a brain:
      http://mises.org/books/leftright.pdf

      • Dave

        Yeah, I do… Its the VP that said deficits don’t matter… Its the ones who think deregulation of the financial industry and wall street was a good idea…Its the ones that tax cut and borrow was a good idea… It was the person that put Allan Greenspan in charge of the Fed.

        As ignorant the right are about who and what liberals are, you should not throw stones in that glass house.

        • DaveH

          Read the book, Ignoramus, and learn something.

          • Dave

            Understand History Conservative (My word for ignoramus)

        • DaveH

          A Liberal is anybody who thinks Big Government is the solution to our Problems.
          A Conservative is somebody who thinks Big Government isn’t the solution.
          You, Dave, are a Liberal, hands down.

          • Dave

            DaveH. LOL… your definition of liberal is right out of the Reagan/Rush/Fox propaganda book nice try. Maybe you should try and think for yourself and research the liberal movement in the USA.

          • DaveH

            Conservatives are those who want to stick to Traditional ways.
            Liberals are those who want to change the Traditional ways.
            In the beginnings of our country, the Revolutionists were considered to be Liberal. We now call them Classical Liberals.
            The True Conservatives these days would be nearly equivalent to the Classical Liberals.
            You don’t have a clue, do you Dave?

          • DaveH

            Read the book, Ignoramus, and be the first Liberal on your block to actually have a brain.

          • Sirian

            DaveH,
            Have you noticed how the liberal fools always jump on the “Reagan/Rush/Fox” stump when they have no other leg to stand on. Typical, isn’t it?

          • DaveH

            The problem is, Sirian, that they’re too Ignorant to understand when they’ve been beaten badly.

          • DaveH

            Here’s another you should read, Dave:
            http://mises.org/daily/3823/Origins-of-the-Federal-Reserve

            Get yourself some education.

    • J c

      Wonder why the right wing sheep can’t acknowledge what is so obvious? I think Obama is making the best of a bad situation–he isn’t a dictator and can only do so much, in fact compromises too readily IMO to the obstructionists.

    • Jefferson Thomas

      People who want Liberty and Freedom don’t want or need political hacks from the republocrats to “lead them”. People in government should be nothing more than employees of the citizens who hire them to protect the citizens from criminals internal and external to the country.

      Become a self leader. Get government out of the way.

      Try to see past the false dichotomy of democrat and republican. They are flip sides of the same coin that have hijacked the machinery of government for the benefit of their own unearned power and theft of the wealth created by value producers. They all (elected and unelected government persons along with their corporate quislings) want to use the three tools of government…force, coercion, and fraud for their pet agendas instead of competing in the market place of ideas and product production. One can see why this is the case as it is much easier to take what someone else has produced through hard mental and physical effort through taxation and regulation than to put in that effort yourself.

      “Thou shalt not steal” applies to government criminals whatever disguise or guise they use as well.

      Elect Ron Paul. Start the process of dismantling government agencies and power. Reclaim your God given rights from Natural Law.

      As William Wallace said…Freeeeeeedom!

    • cawmun cents

      Have you noticed anyone who was poor before Obama was president that is no longer poor now?
      Just asking.
      -CC.

    • Dale on the left coast

      “Make tons of money in a private law practice” . . . lol . . . like WITH A TELEPROMPTER?
      In his 20′s Bush was flyin an Fighter Jet . . . the O was doin drugs and hanging with marxists . . .
      Bush had his shortcomings . . . spent 4 Trillion in 8 years . . . but the loon in the WH today has spent almost 6 Trillion in a little over 3 years . . . but you lieberal tards are ok with that!!!

    • kkflash

      Yes. Let’s review:
      Paragraph 2: Bush-bashing- boring, ancient history. Get a life.
      Paragraph 3: “Obama is not a great president for sure…” – the only true statement in this paragraph.
      Paragrah 4: Obama had both houses in his control. How can you blame the GOP for obstructing the destruction of the Constitution of the USA? Nevertheless, the Dems passed Obamacare, which is both unconstitutional and immoral. BTW, 1994-2006: the greatest stock market rise in history, economic prosperity, jobs.

  • roderick usher

    Wayne Root is an honest man.

    • NC

      Roderick, Wayne Root ia a paid right wing talking head just like those at Faux Noise. The left wing has them also!
      Who directed the first trip to the moon? What experience did he have in going to the moon and back? But he was smart enough to GIT ER DONE!!It’s a matter of having the intelligence to recognize the problems and find the people and method to GIT ER DONE!

      Obama inherited a problem whether or not your level of denial will allow you to accept that! When he went looking for people to help with the problem 47% of the people(republicans) decided to take a walk because a man with a funny name had handed them their a$$ in the election!Mainly because a Republican with a masters in business had just blown our economy!So much for Mr. Roots argument that it takes a business back ground to run this coutry. Mr Root might be honest! But smart? Not so much!!

      • DaveH

        NC shows his ignorance, as usual.
        Space exploration has been another of many Government boondoggles which could have been done much more efficiently by private enterprise if Government would just get out of the way:
        http://reason.com/archives/2012/01/25/a-twinkle-of-hope

        And Wayne Root is a Libertarian, NC, not a Right-Winger.
        I’ll give you that Obama inherited a Problem, NC — the Leviathan Government. But his solution has been to Grow it ever larger. Not the correct solution for the average citizen.
        You couldn’t even qualify to carry Wayne’s book bags, NC. And his bags would be full, unlike Flashman’s book bags.

      • kkflash

        The Dems in control of Congress during Bush’s last years were the one’s responsible for the economic disaster in 2007-08.

      • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

        I respectfully object to all your three points:
        1) How do you know Mr. Root is nothing but a talking head hired by what you called Right Wing. Just look at his curriculum vitae and you will discover he is a self-made businessman. He does have his own views and principles and his own life and political philosophy.
        2) To know who to use to get things done is a good thing and quality befitting a chief executive. But the way to get it done and the goal to reach are even ore important. Wastes do not speak well for an executive. And hidden goals certainly can tarnish everything.

      • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

        And here is my third point to NC’s argument:
        3) The core of the situation does not lay in what Obama has inherited.
        After all Obama sought the Presidency. He ought to know what he was getting into and he ought to know, before getting into it, if he was capable of shouldering the task. If he didn’t make the right assessment, he had no one to blame but his own inadequacy and ignorance, or perhaps his arrogance or his hidden agendas?
        Frankly, I feel or believe many an American Voter gave their votes to him because they wanted to make it a “historic” event (the First Black President)! As far as the GOOD REASON goes, in such event RACE should have no place in it. Either one is QUALIFIED in all aspects required of a President, or he should not be given “a chance to try, like some of my color friends urged me. But what alarmed me, at least, is not only the lack of know-how but his agendas so clearly displayed and recognized by me but tinted in different colors in other voters’ eyes. As far as helping poor is concerned, Americans are perhaps the most generous people I have witnessed; but I dare to challenge anyone that those “perpetual poor” really deserve sympathy.
        I don’t believe anyone likes parasites in their midst!

  • Deerinwater

    People who shows up, run the country and they come in all shapes and sizes, but they show up.

    The GOP is attempting to restrict attendance it appears, I wonder why? Are they afraid?

    • clarence swinney

      YES! Of their record
      Since 1900 each “significant” Recession was under a Republican president–They gave us Depression I and II
      Since 1980, they initiated our involvement in 10 foreign conflicts.
      Since 1980, they took 600 budget to 3500 a 1000 debt to 10,000 and job creation to 99,000 per month from 218,000 under Carter and itsy 237,000 under Lord William Of Hope Greatest of 2Oth Century

      Can you blame them for hiding?

      • Skyraider6

        1941 Roosevelt, 1964 Johnson 1916 Wilson guess ? demos, what wars

        • Flashy

          Actually, ‘Nam was Eisenhower. The reference was since 1980. And are you suggesting WWI and WWII were initiated by the US?

          • DaveH

            For those who would like to better understand the US involvement in World War II:
            http://mises.org/books/pearl_harbor_greaves.pdf

          • DaveH
          • Palin16

            Flashy,
            Bullcrap on blaming Ike for Vietnam. He had only a few hundred military advisors there, as did JFK. The gulf of Tonkin incident occured under LBJ’s watch, and then the bombing and napalming began. LBJ stated he would not be the president that let SE Asia go the way of China (so-called “domino theory”). He then escalated the war in Nam. The My Lai Massacre also occured on Johnson’s watch. Get your facts straight flashy. While you’re at it, remember Truman gave the go-ahead to nuke Japan, and was exalted to hear of how many deaths occured.

        • Flashy

          Actually, VietNam was Eisenhower. The reference was since 1980. And are you suggesting WWI and WWII were initiated by the US?

          • ValDM

            Flushy,
            Actually, You are so wrong on so many levels, it’s mind-bending. The truth of the matter on Viet Nam is that it was Truman who sent ADVISORS to S. Viet Nam in 1954. Yes, Eisenhower DID send more ADVISORS & troops who did training. Then we had Kennedy who in even more troops to train. But where it gets really interesting is when LBJ pulled out ALL the stops by sending even MORE war fodder & Congress that interfered with the generals in charge, by telling them how to fight that war. You see, they were making HUGE profits off of this war & didn’t want it to end.

            Care to enlighten us with any more of your brilliance? (sarcasm intended)

          • Flashy

            I didn’t know about Truman sending in military advisors to Vietnam. i had thought it was Ike. As to the rest, the article was about who initiated wars and armed conflicts since 1980. I tossed in Ike since someone had attributed it to LBJ…who, as you state, escalated that conflict into full fledged combat.

          • cawmun cents

            Obama has recently sent advisers to Central Africa,are you going to say that it was Bush’s fault 10 years from now?
            Just asking.
            -CC.

    • Flashy

      If you are referring to yesterday when the GOP had an independent member of the media arrested for no reason other than he was going to tape the hearing on health and environmental damegs due to fracking…and the ABC crew ousted from the hcambers as well…

      Gotta love them GOP Constitutionalists eh?

      • DaveH

        References Please, Flashman. You know you have no credibility on this board.

        • Flashy

          Various news media

          • Brad

            O.K. what news media outlets? I never heard of what you’re talking about.

          • Jefferson Thomas

            Must be right if the news media reported it in various ways…is that what you said or meant Falshy?

            We all know that persons who are in journalism are 100% objective, don’t we? They have no politcal, religious, or philosophical beliefs of their own and their professor at college who is dependent on the state for his salary had no influence at all…right? :)

          • Flashy

            ABC has it on their website, as does MSNBC, as does Mediaite.

            Took 10 seconds. I now realize a simple search is beyond your limited mental capabilities….You guys satisfied?

          • Jefferson Thomas

            @Falshy,

            I will say first of all that I am not a member of the GOP nor am I an apologist for them and their many anti-constitutional stances and unconstitutional laws they are responsible for passing. That said, you “forgot” to mention a few other items in the story. The main person you mention as a member of the “media” is in fact a radical environmentalist film maker named Joshua Fox who was the director of the anti-fracking film called “Gasland” He did not have press credentials to be taping the hearings at the Capitol according to USA Today and was charged with unlawful entry. He was released today at 3:00p.m.

            article at http://content.usatoday/communities/ondeadline/index

            It is quite likely that Mr. Fox did all of this for publicity for a upcoming sequel to his first film “Gasland” and he will be appearing on MSNBC tonight.

            The report update says that ABC did not assign anyone to the hearings indicating the crew may have been impersonating an ABC crew. Try reading articles all the way to the bottom of the page and thinking about motives Falshy.

          • Flashy

            LOL…OK, you go withyour story that he “may” have been there to disrupt the hearings, even though there was never any indication of such. you can go with the view he was a “radical environmentalist’, even though that is not borne out by any facts other than subjective labeling, and you can go with any other accusation not borne by the facts.

            Your choice. However, note it was ONLY the GOP members who objected to his presence. That he was there under normal ordinary circumstances, that it was a public hearing, and the usbject was on fracturing and testimony concerning the effects..environmental, social, economics.

            ironic that y’all scream about speech and what is being suppressed….then laugh and minimize the very item you are suppressing. If there was nothing to hide, why was so much effort made to hide it?

            Read other articles on it..and perhaps listen to his interviews. Also…I take it you would place Joe Scaraborough in a “liberal” label? For he called it no less a term than ‘disgusting” …

          • Jefferson Thomas

            @ Falshy,

            Snicker, hahaha, you always amuse me Falshy. Read what I wrote again. I did not say that he “may have been there to disrupt the hearings” those are either your words or words from the press. Read your own words “accusations without facts”.

            As to your characterization of my being subjective…. I can only reply that I subjectively choose to be objective with the facts in play :), If you can get past the influence of your meds, roll that one around in your gray matter for awhile.

            Actually the Capitol Police objected to his presence because he did not have credentials as a member of the media. Notice again that ABC said they did NOT send a crew to the hearings.

            Speech was not hindered, nor was the public right to know according to the press report the hearings were webcast online. The members of the committee were most likely taking their cue from Mr. Obama with the webcast in their attempt to be more transparent :). What Mr. Fox did not like was not being able to get footage that he could portray in the manner he chose in his upcoming sequel to his first movie (my subjective interpretation of motives :)).

            LOL nothing was suppressed or hidden. It is all over the news media because that is what Mr. Fox wants for free publicity for his movie.

            Who are y’all? Y’all callin us a y’all? Y’all are a y’all. Y’all ya.

            Joe who? Your attempt to use a “authority figure” who has no authority, it fails. bzzzzzt

            Testimony by who? Portrayed in which sound bites? From whose subjective perspective?

      • kkflash

        Flashy,
        How do you manage to attribute the arrest of a trespasser to the GOP?

        • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

          That is easy! The agenda of smearing whoever is against or suspicious of opposition to their agenda.

  • Insurgent

    First and foremost, the US should not have an arrogant, cocky, egotistical, illegal, lying, Kenyan, Muslim chigger sleeping in the White House at night and impersonating a US president by day.
    This sorry sack has no respect for Americans or America or anything it once stood for through its history.
    This imposter is making the US the biggest joke in the world!!!!

    • smilee

      I guess you do not believe in democracy and free elections as the means of deciding whom sleeps in the white house

      • DaveH

        This country was established as a Republic, Smilee, because our Founders were well-read and they knew that Democracies invariably ended up with the Majority trampling the rights of the Minority.
        Our Founders were wise enough to know that the closer Government was to the citizens, the easier it was for the citizens to keep their Leaders in line. That, of course, is why Leaders and their Politically Connected Cronies prefer Gargantuan, Remote, Central Governments where it is much easier for them to get away with their shenanigans.

      • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

        Nothing against the DULY elected unless by cheating or fabrications!

    • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

      Insurgent you are being rude to the Office of President of your own country when prattle on as you do here. He was chosen by the people freely and without coersion?

      • DaveH

        Our elected Presidents were never intended to have King-like stature, Gilly.

      • JeffH

        The office of the President maybe but to the president himself…an emphatic no! Obama reaps what he sows and deserves as much respect as he gives and he himself disrepects the position of the POTUS…

        • DaveH

          And he disrespects the main law of the land (The Constitution) as well as disrespecting the citizens’ Freedom.

          • JeffH

            One recent & perfect example…NDAA – The Feinstein Amendment 1031(e) – The language which precluded the application of Section 1031 to American citizens was in the bill that we originally approved…and the administration asked us to remove the language which says that U.S. citizens and lawful residents would not be subject to this section.

            The Obama administration never had a problem with Section 1031 of the bill and indeed acted to ensure it applied to American citizens.

      • Don

        GR in Aust. ,,, Damm right he is being rude, but to get respect you have to show respect, not only that, but obammy lied every time he opened his mouth, so why don’t you mind your own business ?

        • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

          I am minding my own business Don, and your rather rude to try to deny me my opinion in this forum. Its people like you who help to keep your voters in the dark ages. Your voters need to be encouraged to think for themselves and debate ideas from whatever source they may come from not be bullied into submission by the likes of you. Believe me its people like you who drive the fearful to voter for your opposition, without thinking about the better aspects of your favourite. You should be ashamed of yourself but i doubt whether you have any shame as a bully type.

      • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

        JeffH made very clear distinction between the Office and the person, who occupies that office. Americans are law abiding citizens and of course they respect the Office. They also respect the person that occupies that Office on condition he fulfills his duties that chiefly stay in serving the People and the Country, not just certain segments of people he is interest in. As for coercion there are different kinds of coercion. Mental coercion, such as exertions by political groups, labor groups etc. not to mention propagandist indoctrination through mass media, untruthful words or promises. Physical coercions, such as posting black jacket thuds holding bats or some other unfriendly demeanor at polling stations. Then, various schemes of fraudulent votes, too many to mention. Gilly, they have made it a science, you know. You should come here and see it all.

        • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

          Visiting America my grandfathers home of over 30 years early last century in California and Boston where I have other relatives is not on my priority list, although my sons University freinds from Australia this summer have only recently sent reports of having his shoes stolen by a coloured person in Pennsylvania last month.

          Modern google technology permits me to look into your towns without taking the risks of all those mad men with guns …lol. I am tho very aware of the Australian political process and the power Rupert Murdoch exserts over the media having experienced it myself some years back, but when it comes to making judgments on what your current President has been doing since he took office…its nigh on impossible to know what extra information he has become aware of since he swear allegiance to your still great country, that we will never become aware of and the VAST responsibilities which he is now taken on to direct. I believe that many of you are being totally unfair to blame everything that happens in USA to OBAMA.

          OBAMA does not hire or fire millions of Americans every year…its the millions of small and large businesses who do… yet politicians get all the blame or accolates for negative or positive job numbers.

          As i said before the President has access to more information which he uses to guide his actions and many times he is unable to tell us the ‘real truth’ for a variety of national interest reasons. So lets carry on a debate without blaming the man. Play the game not the man..in my opinion will get better results in the longer term.

    • NC

      Insurgent, the last time I recall America being a “joke” to the world was 9/11 when there was laughing and dancing in the streets of foreign cities after we had taken a lick because we had an imbecile in the White House. You know the one!!! The one that proceeded to start wars that “created more terrorist than we killed”, to quote the generals who had to fight them.Actually you and Freedom Fighter are the biggest jokes I know!! Have you ever voted for a winning President?

      • Jerry

        Did we really fight the war to win? This war still must be fought only it will be a lot worse. You might try reading your Bible. Also the whole world will be against Israel but of course they will win but 2/3 will be dead.

      • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

        I really don’t know where you are coming from. You simply make your statements, based on what? Name the cities where people danced and celebrated and name the American generals you said there were more new enemies created. I can only recollect that most major countries’ head of states expressed concerns and sympathy. Of course, the old enemies would dance and laugh, and perhaps more of them exhibited disbelief US could be so savagely attacked.
        Let me ask you one question and I know you would not (or would not dare to) answer on this board: Did you dance or celebrate or feel vindicated on 9/11 bombing? Be HONEST!

  • jopa

    Dave;Great post, very well said and all the facts right on the money.

    • Capitalist at Birth

      Ignorance loves company, evidently.

  • Tall Ted

    Mr. Root makes a compelling point, if you ignore history. Here is the summary of the presidents’ backgrounds since WWII.

    George W. Bush – business man. Not particularly successful. His one success was as President and minority stockholder in the the Texas Rangers baseball team, he successfully lobbied governments to finance the building of a new stadium, thereby increasing the team’s value.

    William J. Clinton – politician. When he wasn’t in public office, he was a lawyer.

    George H.W. Bush – politician, government employee.

    Ronald Reagan – actor, spokesperson.

    Jimmie Carter – Businessman – ran his family’s peanut farm.

    Gerald R. Ford – politician.

    Richard Nixon – politician, lawyer.

    Lyndon Johnson – politician, businessman. He owned a radio station, a government granted monopoly.

    John Kennedy – politician.

    Dwight Eisenhower – government employee.

    Harry Truman – businessman. haberdasher in Kansas City, MO.

    So, out of the last twelve presidents, only three have had any appreciable business experience. So obviously, business experience is not a major requirement to be a successful president.

    • smilee

      A citizen born here, 35 years of age and have lived in the US for 14 years, the only requirements for being president as decided by our founding fathers and since then a part of our constitution. As government is not a business why would some think that as important, we have had to many business men in government and not enough statesmen and business men always seemed to be more interested in giving all kinds of breaks for businesses at the determinant of the people, “We the People” get forgotten and used.

      • DaveH

        From Article II, Section 1:
        “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States”.
        The question is “what is a natural born citizen”? And what does it really matter? If a guy is destroying our country, does it really matter if he was born here or not?

    • eddie47d

      Business experience is not necessary to lead a nation so thank you Tall Ted. Personally I don’t want a cannibalizer of companies like Romney has done or someone who hides his wealth in a foreign country.

  • http://www.motorcars Brad

    Dave put down the glass of cool aid

  • CQB

    Not exactly accurate…Deregulation started with Larry Summers in the Carter administration…and where is Summers today?? In Barry’s administration in WH…to date Barry is the worst President in history…with the latest State of the Union speech another accumulation of ridiculous lies…definitely destroying the country, taking away more of our rights and freedoms every week, and taking us towards a Socialist/Communist totalitarian police state…and the economy is not slowly turning around if you look closely…it is still in a downward spiral with the facts covered up by the state run media

    • clarence swinney

      HAHAHA
      Tall Ted says:
      February 2, 2012 at 8:22 am
      Mr. Root makes a compelling point, if you ignore history. Here is the summary of the presidents’ backgrounds since WWII.

      George W. Bush – business man. Not particularly successful. His one success was as President and minority stockholder in the the Texas Rangers baseball team, he successfully lobbied governments to finance the building of a new stadium, thereby increasing the team’s value.

      William J. Clinton – politician. When he wasn’t in public office, he was a lawyer.

      George H.W. Bush – politician, government employee.

      Ronald Reagan – actor, spokesperson.

      Jimmie Carter – Businessman – ran his family’s peanut farm.

      Gerald R. Ford – politician.

      Richard Nixon – politician, lawyer.

      Lyndon Johnson – politician, businessman. He owned a radio station, a government granted monopoly.

      John Kennedy – politician.

      Dwight Eisenhower – government employee.

      Harry Truman – businessman. haberdasher in Kansas City, MO.

      So, out of the last twelve presidents, only three have had any appreciable business experience. So obviously, business experience is not a major requirement to be a successful president

      • cawmun cents

        So your claim is that Acting is not a business?
        Just asking.
        -CC.

        • Tall Ted

          CC – An actor is a private cpontractor who sells his services to someone who makes movies or presents plays. Before he was elected governor, the only people Reagan hired were his agent and any servants he had.

          • cawmun cents

            Since when is private contracting not a business?
            Thats like saying that advisory commissions are not done through stuctured business.
            If I am a private construction contractor,is that not a business?
            Of course it is.
            Same with acting.
            So what is your point?

    • NC

      CQB, where are you getting your data if not from the “state run media”. Could I get a list of your sources and who gathers their data.
      Tell me if I’m wrong but I think you sat down to hear the SOTU speech already of an opinion that anything OBAMA SAID WOULD BE ALIE. Or has he just started SINCE the speech to lead us toward that SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST TOTALITARIAN POLICE STATE you say is his plan?
      Hoestly, have you not heard that SAME ACCUSATION by the right wing of EVERY DEMOCRAT CANDIDATE SINCE

      • steve in AZ

        Everything Obama says IS a lie.

  • http://NA SPARKY SAYS

    He made believers out of the koolaid liberals who want something for nothing ,not knowing that he was picking their pockets at every move they make.

    • eddie47d

      The Robber Barron’s on Wall Street picked our pockets for several decades and few blinked. There are those who defend their immorality all the time.

  • CP

    I have seen several HONEST people on here, but the mistaken ones seem to make a whole lot more noise. Could it be that defeat Obama is a noisier drum, or just that the Obama haters have better amplifiers?

    • clarence swinney

      RIGHT WING FREAKNUTS NEVER SAW A NUMBER OR A FACT
      IN RELIGION AND POLITICS YOU GO ON– FAITH —
      I BELIEVE WHAT I BELIEVE I DO NOT WANT FACTS TRYING TO CHANGE ME MIND
      LIKE REAGAN–”GET A GOOD OPINION AND IGNORE THE FACTS”
      GOOD OLD BRAIN DEAD AFFABLE DUNCE

      • Dale on the left coast

        Clarence . . . lieberals love “facts” . . . their own facts, they just make them up as they go . . .

        Reagan, 1964: “…there is no such thing as a left or right. There’s only an up or down: [up]…, the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order, or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism.” . . . The USA today seems to be in “DOWN” mode under the guidance of the Amateur!!!

        Here’s a nugget from Goebbel’s own throat – 30′s leftist/socialist -

        “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State “

    • Tall Ted

      CP – this is a far right wing website. It is a place where right wing extremists get their prejucides and beliefs confirmed and express their frustrations and blow off steam.

      There are similar progressive websites.

      With billions of websites worldwide, you’d think that there would be a place where people who cared about this country, both left and right, could gather to discuss the issues of the day somewhat calmly, without name-calling or insults. But if there is such a site, I haven’t found it.

      • ValDM

        Tall Ted,
        You state that this web site is where “far right wing extremists”…….vent. Then you go on to sound reasonable about discussion of the events of the day without “insults & name calling”. Sounds an awful lot like to pot calling the kettle black.

        I’m not, nor ever have been “far right”, and I have been insulted by you for your generalizations. If you feel you have something to say, then by all means, say it………AND PROVIDE source materials to prove it. Otherwise, sit down & shut up, because from what I’ve read of your postings, more of what you say is a thinly veiled insult, carefully glossed over with a barely disguised sneer.

        • JeffH

          ValDM, ditto that! I’d be guessing but there’s probably an underlying subconcious reason why he calls himself “Tall”. :)

        • cawmun cents

          His/her politically correct slip is showing.
          But his/her feigned politesse,cannot make due when the gloves come off,and there is tension in the ranks.Oh well,so much for political directness……Current TV.
          -CC.

  • sj

    Red or blue Koolaid?

    • Okie Ron

      I’m not sure what color the “kool-aid” is that you’re referring to, but that warm, yellow stuff they ‘been raining down on you for the last 30 years, calling it “Tinkle-down Economics”?

      That ain’t lemonade.

  • Skyraider6

    Obama is a sorry excuse to represnt America. Keep Air Force 1 home and buy food for the poor instead of wasting fuel.Check on the cost of maintaining the plane.

    • mark

      Yeah, you’re right before Obama became president there was no Air Force One and presidents never used it to travel all around the country and the world. Prior to Obama all the past presidents in the last century used bicycles for all their presidential travel.

  • steve in AZ

    Sorry, EPIC FAIL, Mr. Root.

    1.) I don’t believe Obama’s failures are due to lack of experience so much as they are to his determined efforts to destroy our nation. For those efforts I would award him a B+.

    2.) You would do a better job in any of those positions you mentioned; CEO,Fire Chief,union leader,etc., than BO has done as POTUS merely because you appear to be a decent human being who would do his best to succeed and build rather than to destroy.

    To lay his success at destruction of our nation at the door of incompetence shows a total lack of knowledge of our enemy and his agenda.

    Please get a clue. Know your enemy.

    DONATE NOW so we can VOTE RON PAUL 2012!!!

  • Xavier

    Did you readers know that the state of Georgia has a subpoena against obama and his attorney? It is in court right now because so it seems, after an investigation, that the social security number obama is using comes from a person who is no longer with us. The courts in the state of GA say that in order for him to initiate a ballot in Georgia that he must materialize his original birth certificate as a Natural Born Citizen of the USA.

    But do not let me stop you, here is the sibpoena as it was sent to me,

    http://libertylegalfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Order-Denying-Ds-Motion-to-Dismiss.pdf

    and here is the story:

    http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/?p=4138

    What I do wonder about is what will it happen to the members of the DNC for allowing this to slip through the cracks. The libs are noxious and not even the KKK, which was created by the democrats in the first place, have the evil ability to create what is happening today in the USA.

    Also, the campaign team of Newt Gingrich has been notified of this as well. Is it a lie? Or is it a fact? I do not know, but my source states that what is happening in Georgia is yet to be televised. No wonder why.

    Regards,

    Xavier

    • steve in AZ

      Yup, Xavier, I was aware. Supposedly, this same scenario is in different stages in other states. Obama can avoid appearing in court due to his status as President – however, should he not, there may be so many states who refuse him a place on the ballot due to his failure to provide proof of citizenship that he would be unlikely to be the democrat candidate.

      Enter Hilary. Although I despise her and see her as a more viable candidate for the dems, at least if she won, our president would be an American. We have serious issues. Our best chance to deal with them would include an American president, even of the red variety.

      DONATE NOW so we can VOTE RON PAUL 2012!!!

      • smilee

        This is the largest frivolous lawsuits in American history and after so many years it has not gotten any real traction and not very likely to. Until and unless the SC hears it then it has no chance of succeeding unless someone can convince the SC to hear it which to date all attempts have failed and no lower court has ruled on it as yet or no trial has occurred and all attempts to date have failed in this and most likely will continue to. WHAT A JOKE!!

        • Flashy

          Somewhere i saw a list of the number of lawsuits, the amounts in $$ ordered to pay for filing frivilous lawsuits, the number of bar reprimands against attorneys filing those lawsuits, and the various claims of the lawsuits.

          It’s amazing the extent the Right goes to excite people and then use it to garner money.

          • steve in AZ

            You girls don’t get it. This is a new effort to keep the kenyan (yes, small case)from repeating his POTUS trick a second time. This time he must put up (prove his citizenship) or hopefully shut up (go away). Good night and have a pleasant existence.

            DONATE NOW so we can VOTE RON PAUL 2012!!!

          • Sirian

            Well, Flash-o-man-o, if you saw a list “somewhere” then why don’t you go back to that “somewhere” and recover that list and post it to back up what you say. Isn’t it honorable to back up what you say with FACTS to support it? Then again, “being honorable” is obviously one personal trait that you have yet achieved. Oh yes, I know, it’s to much trouble. You can never question you own beliefs and career of idiocy. Why? Yet instead you honestly wonder why the most of us view you as a very well indoctrinated spook with credibility truly lacking, if any at all. The day you draw yourself out of the lovely quagmire that you relish to flounder about in, then, and only then, will you be considered someone that has something to say that may very well be worthwhile. Until then, forget it!

  • KUSA

    My personal opinion is that President should not run anything. It is not his job. He only should protect us from enemies and protect Constitution of USA. Are we demanding from president being socialistic – communistic president to be dictator and run the country? I believe it is error from our side.

    • smilee

      Your free to believe what you like but what the Constitution says holds power your beliefs do not. Keep spinning your wheels!!

      • Angel Wannabe

        smilee, the Constitution was put in place originally to protect We The People and to provide an Enviroment where Capitalism could flourish!__Now Crony Capitalism, buys people, Politics and legislation and has infiltrated and corrupted absolutely!!
        Churches and ordinary citizens used to care for the sick and the down trodden, as the tax burder grew, the less money was left in our pockets to tithe, and the GUV sailed in and saved the day with entitlements or should I say a new round of Democrat voting base!
        Bam Bam is just another in a lonnng line of puppets!
        Don’t bother replying, I had my say!

        • JeffH

          Angel Wannabe…Mainly, the Constitution provides the framework for our republican form of government. It confers specific authority to each of the branches of government and to the several states. And it provides for certain protections of civil rights that no majority can abridge or abrogate.

          The power and limitations of the president are clearly defined under Article II, Section 1,2,3,4.

  • jerry

    Big mistake, BO has been successful beyond his dreams. His mandate is to weaken America so that sharia will eventually take over. What might appear to be be a good thing like Osamas death was likely planned by the islamic heirarchy as he was either dieing shortly or already dead. Likely reports and orders to and from islam were carried by Michelle on her trips to Spain and Africa. Think what could have be secreted on a SD card.

    • smilee

      WOW!! WHAT A SICK IMAGINATION YOU HAVE!!

    • Okie Ron

      UNREAL. Look guys. ‘Just do America a favor and SECEDE. You can hatch paranoid plots against an evilduer world, drill-baby-drilla your little patch of dirt until it’s a greedy little hell-hole. Then you can go war with each other and burn your New Confederacy down on your own heads, all the while blaming Obama’s “UnaNonaRealAmerican” Niggakenyan voodoo for all the problems your greed and ignorance has created. You’ll have Fox News as the Propaganda Ministry and Out-of-Control Unregulated Capitalism as your official Jihadi State Religion.

      ‘Just don’t overthrow America, ’cause the rest of us who don’t beat your constant CommuNaziHomoSocialist Terror drum still want to rebuild this country, and we don’t want to do it at the point of your guns. Americans have accomplished a lot more by cooperating with one another than they have by hating one another. And hate is the only tune y’all know how to play.

      Just take your own part of the country and we’ll take the rest…only you kinda have to take the crappy parts, ’cause you don’t like nature and natural parks and conservation (ironic for “Conservatives”) and you’re gonna foul your own nest the way you would if we in the middle and left of America let you have your greedy little way. Make it like the Confederacy of old, with lots of dumb white sharecroppers sucking up to their plantation-owning CEO’s.

      Just remember, if you go to war with America, no matter how many of us you kill–just like President Cheney was wrong about his “war to nowhere” in Iraq–the American People Will NEVER Welcome You As Liberators.

  • 45caliber

    What I can’t understand is why Congress is not only allowing but encouraging the President to take over all control in the US. Why do they automatically grant whatever he demands of them? Why do they accept his appointments without even censor when he appoints people during recess? Why do they accept his orders without a complaint?

    • smilee

      WHAT???? THIS HAS BEEN THE MOST OBSTRUCTIONIST CONGRESS IN OVER HALF A CENTURY, PAY ATTENTION TO REALITY, THEY HAVE STOPPED EVERYTHING HE HAS WANTED DUE TO THEIR USE OF THE FILIBUSTER AT MOST EVERY TURN. tHIS RULE ALLOWS THE MINORITY TO BE IN CONTROL AND CAN AND DO STOP VOTES AND THEN TURN AROUND AND ACCUSE THE PRESIDENT OF HIS POLICIES NOT WORKING WHEN THEY HAVE PREVENTED HIS POLICIES FROM BEING IN EFFECT. HOW TWO FACED THEY ARE IN ADDITION TO TELL AN LIE TO GET OUR WAY WHICH THEY HAVE PERFECTED AND YOU HAVE FALLEN PREY TO THEIR bs

      • http://html Bob

        not true

      • 45caliber

        smilee:

        If that was true, we wouldn’t have the Oblamacare Program. Nor would we have gotten the “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” repealed. Or many other similar programs. In fact, I don’t remember a single case of filibuster although there were some threats of it.

        • smilee

          45
          From July 09 until Jan 10 the democrats had 60 votes in the senate and that is when the Affordable Care act was passed. A six month window when the republicans could not stop it with a filibuster. Credit Senator Frankin for that as if had lost in MN in the recount that took until July this would not have become law. Remember it was passed on Christmas eve 2009. 70 bills out of 7000 in 2011 became law and that sure gives credibility to a do nothing congress it is really not disputable.

        • smilee

          I think there was 73% filibustered, many votes were taken and fell short of the 60 required, I guess your memory is either missing or you rally have not been paying attention.

      • Dale on the left coast

        pull it out Smilee . . . get a breath of fresh air!!!
        Congress last year passed over 26 bills that never made is past the dinasaur Reid in the Senate . . . the O and his gang of theives has not passed a BUDGET IN OVER 1000 DAYS . . . unprecidented in US history. Is it incompetence, stupidity or does the O have an agenda?
        What’s your excuse?

        • smilee

          SO, there was a lot more than that which got to the floor that the GOP filibustered. NO Budget, true there is no year long budget, the president proposed one as required by law but congress never brought one back to his desk except in increments, technically there is a budget as all expenditures require an appropriations bill to keep the government functioning and those have been passed so in effect there is a budget. Congress failed and with one house in each party I guess then there is a pox on both parties. But the government has not yet been shut down so they have appropriated money so in effect there is a budget not just one for the whole year and that is the fault of both parties within the congress.

      • eddie47d

        Republican obstructionism for starters!

      • Jefferson Thomas

        Gives me an idea. Hmmmm….POP there it goes, POP – People’s Obstructionist Party. If we could get enough people elected to congress we could side with either republicans or democrats to obstruct any new laws from passing…I like it! :)

  • Kerry

    That is all you are worried about on obama? How about when he was in the choir at Rev. Wright’s church, Chicago in ’99 when he smoked crack with his two fellow choir members(Donald young was the leader)and Larry Sinclair, when they all had sex together ending with obama becoming a serial killer on them? How about obama’s dad and grandad being Mau Mau’s that enjoyed chopping every whitey they saw, chopping off their limbs before gang raping them(Barry missed out on that fun)but at least he was born in the hospital in Mombasa Kenya! How about him convincing King Abdulah he was a jihadist muslim while in Pallestine(how many jews did he kill-Israeli jews of course)for the King to give Harvard $20 million for Barry’s Diploma? How about his Supreme Court Justice Kagan who while being Solicitor General to the Supreme Court stopped every lawsuit against Barry until his “Black” Attorney General got into office to seal all of Barry’s documents, records and lawsuits while he spent campaign funds to hide them until then? Besides being a invading, felon, jihadist muslim illegal alien because he never applied for US citizenship(he does have an Indonesian, and a British citizenships though)! Just how many more FELONIES does that ——- must get to become elligible for treason? He has at least 30 now! I guess with his 3 names I have found so far on him(Barry Obama II, Barry Soetoro, Barry Secbarkah) to go along with the 27 Social Security numbers he has makes him elligible for about $200k a month when he does claim it? With 7 states denying him election eligibility so far(Georgia, Massachussetts, Illinois, Alabama, Arizon and New Hampshire) what is this walking felon gonna do?

    • cawmun cents

      The Wild Hickory Nuts expect that their ploy of having(been hired)to come here to make us all seem like lunatics is working.
      Their disinformation,and black science tactics are legendary.
      1917-2012….they havent changed a bit.
      The only difference is that they dont realize that the veil has been rended and they cannot hide in the shadows,from those with gifts from God.It is easy to pull a sheeps wool over his eyes,but much harder to do so dressed as a wolf.For those of us who can see the ploy for what it is,there is derision poured out making us seem like loons.
      For those who cannot see the knashing of teeth for the smile of the seemingly friendly,they wear their stylish wolves-wool well and cover with pretense their intent.But sheep know their shepherd,and wont go grazing over the hill for greener pastures which do not exist.
      Wild Hickory Nut accusations aside,the left would be much better at black science,if they could actually make anything happen like they portray it.Good luck at that lefties,you are mgoing to need it.-CC.

  • Bert Cundle Sr.

    POLITICS PLATFORM: C H A N G E . . . The President & All Politicans, have a TIME LINE… “TERM LIMITS”. Even if we ever do get someone in control… they get booted out!

    • Brian

      Bingo! Term limits is the first thing we should do…

  • Steve

    This country is easy to run. If you follow the Constitution.

    • Bert Cundle Sr.

      NULLAFIED by STATES RIGHTS!

  • Bert Cundle Sr.

    Remember… Government Knows all about us! But, we only know what government wants us to know, about them!

  • Kerry

    A Toast to the Usuper, Fraud, illegal invading felon(over 30 to date), jihadist muslim, crack smoking queer, Barry Obama! First a Treason Trial followed by a firing squad of the US Army! Then everything that this bought and paid for gay in office will be cancelled, all of his cabinet hung along with his American hating wife and his anchor babies will be sent to Mexico’s boystown to be good working girls!

  • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

    What are the differences in the following three religions?

    Catholic, Church of England and Muslim?

    Anyone really know?

    • Bert Cundle Sr.

      A savior 2000 years ago. & A Prophet 5000 Years ago.

      • Xavier

        And one rides camels and wears towels on their heads…..simple enough!!!

    • Jefferson Thomas

      The Catholic Church is a statist organization using parts of christianity that originated in Rome.

      The Church of England is a statist organization using parts of christianity that was originated by the monarch Henry in England.

      Islam is a statist “religion” originated by the “prophet” Mohammed that combines plagarized elements of Judaism, Christianity, and the old moon god religion of Arabia. It also includes whatever whimsical notions that came into Mohammeds deranged criminal mind. Although I can’t quote a source, I think Mohammed may have studied what Constantine did when he consolidated the power of the church and state with the Roman Empire.

      All of these religious forms are evil because they combine the power of the state and religion into one.

      There is no man or group of men who should have this kind of power over the individual who should be free to make decisions of conscience on his own as long as he does not initiate force, coercion, or fraud against some other person, their property or their contract.

      There is only one who will combine all in a future monarchy of justice. His name is Immanuel.

  • jopa

    Smilee very well said bu please turn off the Caps lock.Makes it too hard to read.Thank you.

  • mark

    Yeah, community organizers shouldn’t run the country. Let’s have a big businessman, corporate raider, or Wall Street stooge do so instead. Someone like Trump, Romney or the Goldman Sachs crew. You know, those highly competent, and experienced businessman who raped and wrecked the entire U.S. and global economy. I’d rather have my child grow up to be a garbage collector than work on Wall Street. Garbage collecting is a useful, honorable, and necessary profession. Most of the Wall Street cabal belongs behind bars. But who is going to put them there when they own the U.S government and both political parties.

  • R.H.Karsten

    I can remember when “community activists” were called WARDHEELERS. The Chicago area has long been known as a great training ground for such an occupation.

  • David

    If he failed so badly, then why have U.S. corporations been posting record profits ( historically ) for ever single quarter since October of 2009 ? With the 3rd quarter of 2011, the last reported. Posting a record $1.5 trillion in after tax profits.

    And corporate taxes ?

    As a percentage of federal revenue. they have dropped from 30% more than 50 years ago to less than 10% today.

    In 2003 we were warned that if we continued to give corporations more and more loopholes. Allowing them to pay less and less. That it would lead to massive deficits over the next decade and beyond. And what happened….. As corporate taxes continue to fall. And they find more and more ways to pay less and less in taxes. Deficits increase. Now we have the top 200 corporations paying anywhere from 0 to 18.5% in taxes. ( not 35% ) as most of us are lead to believe. And some are shocked when deficits increase when revenues are at 50 year lows ?

    • Okie Ron

      Careful, there….you’re using math and logic and factual data…the clever, America-hating mind-cancer of the Elite!

      RealAmericans don’t “drink the kool-aid” of numbers and facts that educated idiots toss around to prove stuff, preferring to drink the warm, yellow shower of Tinkle-Down Economics.

      They DO realize that ain’t lemonade, though. Right?

      • David

        I had just about given up all hope that there was a single person here that could understand any of that STUFF…. You KNOW…Stuff like the relationship between revenue and deficits.

        I’m glad to see there was at least one.

    • Jerry

      When I was in business most extra money was used for expansion or up grading equipment,even things to make the job easier for employees. I don’t think they are doing that much right now for a reason.

    • Dale on the left coast

      No mention of the 6 TRILLION in run-away spending . . . don’t forget the 15 – 25% real unemployment numbers.
      Then there’s the devalued dollar, 30 to 35% in the last 4 years . . .
      Are there some successful business . . . you bet!!! But these guys are not spending their lives on the golf course.

  • http://liberyalearts john p.

    don’t for get the democrats in congress and the democrats
    in the senate are the blame just as much as Obama .they
    voted for what ever Obama wanted .so if you vote to get
    rid of Obama .get rid of the democrats that’s been there
    to long .when you vote split your votes and vote for new
    people .then we might be able to save our country.

    • steve in AZ

      make that the democrats and republicans and we’ll be in complete agreement, my friend.

  • Raggs

    Mr. Root
    Very well spoken and how so true…..

  • Okie Ron

    Place your hand over your heart and repeat after me:

    “I pledge allegiance
    to the logo
    of the United States of America, Inc.

    And to the Corporation
    for which it serves,
    one multi-national subsidiary
    under Greed

    Fully divisible
    and subject to liquidation
    with liberty and justice
    to all who can
    afford it.”

    In the years since Dwight Eisenhower–the last real Republican–warned that America was at risk of being seized in a coup d’etat of corporatocracy which would insinuate itself into our entire way of life and rule us from within, the Nixonian/Karlrovian right which threw him under the bus has been C-R-O-W-I-N-G that anyone who reads a book is an “elite” and anyone with enough wealth and power to loot prosperity away from the American people is a RealAmerican SuperPatriot, we are beaten constantly over the head that America is threatened from the liberal.

    Now we are warned on this site and those like it that there are vast, complex, Obammanid Kenyaniggavoodoo CommuNaziHomoSocialist plots to turn America into a vast police state where our officers all become jack-booted robots killing RealAmericans–rage-filled and armed to the teeth–in their beds.

    The same government that completely bungled the response to Hurricane Katrina is now, through the miracle of America-hatingSatan, going to get their act together and incarcerate all the good white people of America in secret FEMA extermination camps when they can’t even cooperate long enough to balance a budget or find the money to fix the potholes in the road.

    It’s ironic that while this rabid fear drum is beaten CONSTANTLY in our faces, the real coup d’etat already happened and you didn’t even notice it.

    America already has Death Panels. They’re called Insurance Companies.
    They plow their profits into lobbying to make sure that all Americans have the priviledge of donating their money to companies that are empowered to give that to their shareholders while doing everything in their power to make sure that no money is ever paid in healthcare benefits. Sure, thanks to the evilduer libs, a little bit has to get paid out to the sick “dead-enders”, but if they had their way, we would just give them our money and shut up.

    America already has a vast extermination camp network in place. It’s called the corporate private prison system. As soon as the corporations–beholden to deliver as much cash as possible to their shareholder–began replacing state and federal government departments of corrections, they plowed their profits into lobbying for Republican candidates and “Get Tough On Crime” legislation to incarcerate as many “products” for the corporate prison system as they could. Here in Oklahoma, we lock up more women than any other state in the union, mostly on minor drug charges that could more cheaply be addressed with rehab. We even make sure their kids can come and stay with them in prison to ‘keep the family together’…this way our corporate prison marketing system can grow an entire new generation of ‘products’.

    Congratulations! America now locks up more of its citizens than any other country in the western world.

    Here’s a stock tip, kid: Invest HEAVILY in privatized corporate prisons! They’ve created a system to scoop up Americans and shove ‘em into rape factories with an efficiency and profit-margins that FEMA could only DREAM of. Americans are kinda stupid and die to protect the people who totally intend to convert them into legal tender, so as an investor, you have to know you’re going to make a ton of money off of these little narrow-minded chumps!

    Finally, the Cheney Administration–the full blossoming of the post-Eisenhower Republican dream of a military-corporate-industrial takeover of America–introduced America’s first full-fledged Corporate Army into theater combat operations–with Blackwater Security in the “Decider’s War” (I also like to call it the “War President’s War”) in Iraq. They may have created several bungled blood-baths and actually opened fire on soldiers of the United States of America on occasion, but at least they got us used to the idea that even wars could be instigated and fought with the goal of turning human beings into legal tender–and there’s none of the messy accountability for their actions that soldiers of the United States of America have to provide. Corporations are People, after all, but they’re not deadbeats like you and me, so they only have to answer to their shareholders. They have “corporate immunity”. And so do their killing machines.

    In our zeal to bend America further and further to the corporate right, we have saved ourselves from soulless jackbooted socialist automatons of right-wing legend, and we’ll be lovingly embraced by our corporations, who see each and every one of us as a money-maker.

    After all, back during the Confederacy that we all get so nostalgic for, our Job Creators of that time had succeeded in amassing a vast wealth in the single-largest economic engine that America had, circa 1860: Trafficking in human beings as slaves. While the lib abolitionists may have wrecked America’s economy by dragging us into the prosperity of the industrial revolution, there’s no denying that our plantation owners were all models of the Confederacy’s genius for Job Creation.

    Today, the take-over continues; by replacing our Supreme Court with a Republican-Corporate Supreme Court, they’ve seized the ability to dole out justice to the highest bidder.

    By using that Supreme Court to auction off our elections to the highest bidder (Citizens United), they’ve installed for themselves the protections to make sure that the people of the United States will shine as a beacon of slavery to the world–all for the sake of profits to international shareholders who long ago offshored themselves to more hospitable places to live.

    America, as a broken-infrastructure, destitute, polluted, cash-machine for shareholders–gunned-up, angry, and seeing enemies everywhere but where they really are–just won’t be a good place to live anymore. If you’re super-rich and having the time of your life, NOTHING harshes your buzz like living in a walled compound, surrounded by a bunch of impoverished, rage-filled sharecroppers in a broken country, so it’ll be time to go.

    The irony is that, in constantly beating the drum that educated people are “elites”, greed is always good, government can never do ANYTHING right, and corporations ALWAYS do, the right wing in America will completely liberate us from the tyranny of Big Government…

    …because they replaced it with the tyranny of Big Corporate long ago.

    Eisenhower warned us.

    • Dale on the left coast

      Eisenhower warned us. Yes he did . . . he warned us of the WELFARE INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX . . . that is now soon to pass 40% of the population.

      Where are these folks today ? ? ?

      “What Barack Obama has accomplished is the single most extraordinary event that has occurred in the 232 years of the nation’s political history”
      Jesse Jackson, Jr.

      “Does it not feel as if some special hand is guiding Obama on his journey, I mean, as he has said, the utter improbability of it all?”
      Daily Kos

      “He communicates God-like energy…”
      Steve Davis (Charleston, SC)

      “Not just an ordinary human being but indeed an Advanced Soul”
      Commentator @ Chicago Sun Times

      “I’ll do whatever he says to do. I’ll collect paper cups off the ground to make his pathway clear.”
      Halle Berry

      “A quantum leap in American consciousness”
      Deepak Chopra

      “He is not operating on the same plane as ordinary politicians. . . . the agent of transformation in an age of revolution, as a figure uniquely qualified to open the door to the 21st century.”
      Gary Hart

      “Barack Obama is our collective representation of our purest hopes, our highest visions and our deepest knowings . . . He’s our product out of the all-knowing quantum field of intelligence.”
      Eve Konstantine

      “This is bigger than Kennedy. . . . This is the New Testament.” | “I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don’t have that too often. No, seriously. It’s a dramatic event.”
      Chris Matthews

      • Okie Ron

        Nonsense, man.

        ‘Just for the record, let’s be clear: Eisenhower never mentioned a “Welfare Industrial Complex”. I know you guys at Fox News are burnin’ books and re-writin’ history as fast as you can–and your fellow travelers will be happy to lap up anything you make up as if it came from the Sanctified Pie-holes of Lord Limbaugh and Lady Ann themselves, but I’m calling (offensive word removed) on that one.

        Then again, the propensity of people on here to make (offensive word removed) up and call it the truth has been well established. How else can you account for a chubby-cheeked Aryan like Lord Limbaugh being able to photoshop a pic of Obama in a Hitler uniform and you’re willing to believe it as if it were taken back in the 1930s–which, I guess REALLY testifies to the Evilnegritude of this Antichrist to the Right–he was even able to use Kenyaniggavoodoo to go back in time and make himself the leader of a white racist culture who hated black people all most as much as they did Jewish liberal intellectuals.

        But then, y’all are through the looking glass and fueled on some hi-octane bullet-lovin’ hatred, so I guess reality isn’t a strong suit anyway, huh?

        Ike knew what he was talking about, having served in the military, and he was talking about a MILITARY Industrial Complex–where major corporations are so inserted into the decision making process that they pull the strings in where America blows it’s money–mostly on them.

        That’s why during the Cheney Presidency, we were able to take the righteous wisdom of a coupla chickenhawk draft-dodgers and propel us into the longest war in U.S. history, which will have cost us that $4 trillion that you’re beatin’ on poor people and the middle class for all the time. It served it’s purpose: “W” got his picture taken on an aircraft carrier. It gave Cheney a second term, made him both a War President and a Decider, and you all came outta the woodwork to declare that anyone who had doubts about the wisdom of that debacle was a traitor.

        And it’s worth noting that,while “W” crowed and stutted up and down the deck of that aircraft carrier, Obama, quietly and with little fanfare, acheived in a coupla years what Cheney and his boy flopped around killing G.I.s for almost a decade trying to do–and handing out cash to their corporate cronies in the process. Obama got Bin Laden. If Cheney had done it you’d have ticker-tape parades and chant “U-S-A!” and “Death to the Liberals”. Obama does it and you suspect he’s tied to Al Qaeda.

        THEN you got the cajones to say that it’s the lefties that are engaging in class warfare and dividing America!

        You applied the Bush Doctrine to class warfare the same way you apply it to racism. You’re first out in the streets with guns bullying people, all in the name of ‘protecting us from racism and class warfare’.

        The Nazis, after all, weren’t war criminals, they were just a poor, misunderstand, armed to the teeth band of RealPatriots who were victimized by a global, centuries-long, clever conspiracy by liberal Jewish intellectuals. And only the Fuhrer and a few of his close friends knew that the fair and balanced way to defeat ‘em was to practice the Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive self-defense–shove ‘em into ovens before they can buy guns and murder you in your beds.

        This clever Fox News/Glennbeckian re-writing of the past as the justification for rednecks to beat on anyone they don’t like is as old as, well, the Nixon White House–where Roger Ailes and Cheney got their start.

        But don’t let me stop you from making stuff up…if raging and hating this black man will keep you spinning like a top and your cash keeps flying out to the corporate welfare state you created for the well-off, I’m sure the “job-creators” appreciate your efforts. ‘Just not enough to create any jobs–those are going to China where slave-labor is already accepted. It’ll get here, but it’s taking longer than expected.

        On this site and more like it, I’m sure there is enough hatred stirring and enough weapons in your possession that if you don’t get your way, you are entirely prepared to take with the bullet what you lose with the ballot. The Republican Party IS the Party of John Wilkes Booth, after all.

        But don’t make Cheney’s mistake all over again:

        You may succeed in overthrowing America, but the American people will NEVER Welcome You As Liberators.

      • Okie Ron

        If my reply comment is awaiting moderation, I hope it’s not because I said something inflammatory…unlike the erudite, eloquent, and well-reasoned reproofs above, such as:

        “Gelding liberals no!!!!!!!!!
        Confronting and killing the communist enemies of the republic..YES!!!!”

        • cawmun cents

          There must be something in the water where you are Okie Ron.
          What percentage is the military Industrial Complex of Americas economy?
          What percentage is the social programs(y’know like housing and developement,green energy,loan modifications,welfare,foodstamps,all the stuff thats meant to keep folks from staying poor?)and the healthcare programs of Americas economy?
          Lets depict this accurately.
          If your government has sworn enemies,who have claimed that they wish to destroy your nation,then a military industrial complex is bad.
          But if you have gubment do-gooders,who thrive on making the poor think that they are working for them for fifty years,but nothing changes,that is good.
          If you try to remove a dictator with one of the more powerful militaries in the known world,and attempt to keep radical religious folk from obtaining power over the nuclear stockpiles of unstable governments,that is bad.
          But if you,through abortion and its advocacy,kill 50,000,000 unborn folks who cannot defrend themselves,that is good.
          Hmmm.I am confused.
          -CC.

      • smilee

        Dale on the left coast says:
        February 2, 2012 at 1:23 pm

        Thats “MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX” I have been reading your posts you sure are one confused individual with a lot of words but with no facts or sense of reality

  • Joe

    A community activist is precisely who the PUPPET MASTERS wanted in the office. Obama fails miserably (and this is a major understatement-there are no words that describe his level of failure) as a representative of the American people, but is winning Gold medals left and right in his role as TRAITOR and sell-out. He brilliantly conned and duped the trusting, naive, and the simple minded, who have a hard time remembering to breathe, let alone having a clue as to how the world really operates. In their defense, the choices were scum and scummier (you decide which is/was which). It hurts me to see so many simpletons, who are otherwise good people, fall for the SUCKERBOB, rope a dope, infantile psychology that the social engineers have put out there. These traitorous dog turds aren’t qualified to wipe my ass, yet here they are successfully running the biggest scam/Ponzi scheme ever perpetrated! There’s a reason that racism and socio-economic differences are cultivated and kept alive. Keep the masses distracted and “fighting” over meaningless trivialities and they will never UNITE. A united concensus among the populace would put all of these trashbags in prison for life, immediately!! This is their greatest fear, and despite all of their efforts, the giant that is free humanity is awakening. Why do you think they are passing all of these tyrannical “laws”, designed to instill fear and immobilize. These scumbags have committed such atrocities that, for them, this is their only option to not get hung for treason, or at the very least end up in prison for life. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!! Otherwise, fix up the basement for the long haul, because your kids WILL be living with you until you die. When this happens, look in the mirror and you’ll be looking at the reason for it. The level of tyranny that you live under is the amount you are willing to tolerate!!!!!!!!

  • Dad

    Wow… everywhere you look, there is evidence of decades of lower quartile educational performance. Now I understand how we got in this mess.

    Unions, illegals, deadbeats, and Dems will continue to push towards communism. BTW, the Pilgrims tried communism initially… it failed miserably… just like Russia, China, Cuba Venezuela, and everywhere else.

    • Okie Ron

      Boy, I’m with ya–reading some of the distorted hate rants and screwball understanding of history presented by some of the comments on this site, I have to conclude that a lot of folks were sitting stoned through Lynerd Skynerd concerts rather than paying attention in school and reading an occasional history or social studies book.

      Now y’all have awakened, hung-over, with cotton-mouth, and y’all are P*SSED!!!

      And you’re not allowed to blame a system that has seen real wages for the middle class drop steadily since the 1970s while the top percentiles of the economic ladder have seen their salaries and bonuses blossom by 300+%.

      It can’t be that you just got hoodwinked by a clever financial system stacked against you. It has to be that mysterious CommuNaziHomoSocialism Voodoo has worked it’s evil magic and helped all the “job creators” send all the jobs to Chinese slave labor while leaving you losers behind.

      Not everyone who’s read a book is an “America-hatin’ terrarist elite”, and not everyone who’s filthy-rich is an America-Loving Patriot. ‘Just some food for thought.

  • Angel Wannabe

    151 days in the Senate, I believe, as stated above a community organizer/Marxist and TPTB gave Obama the most powerful seat in what use to be a Wonderful Country!__TIME, I thoroughly agree!__Our voice & votes means nothing, hasn’t for a long time!__

    Thanks to Bob L, TIME & G beck, I took all of they’re advice starting in 2009 and have been researching the history of it on my own!__Quite frankly, I’m sick at not knowing what we are and a little ashamed. We’ve been royally hosed, its our fault! We were too damned lazy not to have been more vigilant and watchful of who we voted for. NOW The choice is made for us, by TPTB. Can any of you naysayers explain why, NO MATTER WHO IS VOTED IN, IT ONLY GETS WORSE?
    Search your hearts, you can’t tell me you can’t see we’ve been had!_-You libbie sheep will find out all too soon, when the the TPRB are done with ya’s and toss your azzes to the side of the road, like road kill.
    Folks who aren’t awake, better wake the hell up soon and take responsibility for your lives and the lives of your family!

    • Sparkle

      Gee, you write like a real Angel — though not a very educated Angel, not a very wise Angel. You, my dear Angel, are the one who has been had. You are looking to false prophets for truth. They have never delivered truth. Are you by any chance someone who lives south of the Mason-Dixon line? Those red states seem to have lost their minds and replaced them with horrendous hatefulness, and unGodly self-righteousness.

      • libertytrain

        Oh dear sparkle, a little judgmental, and very unGod-like lumping ALL people, living in the South, into some sort of group…what a sad, very small, very unkind statement about the South and Angel.

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Sparkle,

        As someone born and raised “south of the Mason-Dixon line” I take great umbrage at your erroneous characterization. Southerners, as a rule, are not hateful, ungodly nor self-righteous. If you visit some of our fine locales you will find that it is a place where people passing one another on the streets say “hello” to strangers, men hold doors open for women and give up their seats to women if none are available, and strangers help strangers in a myriad of ways. (I offer our experiences during the tornado outbreak last April and again a couple of weeks ago as examples, where people from all over the state came to the aid of their neighbors with donations of money, clothes, shelter and labor, which was going swimmingly until FEMA got in the way.) Churches abound—we have more churches per square mile than any other region of the country—and their parking lots overflow on Sundays.

        Do we always behave in a “Christian” manner? Certainly not. We have our faults, we have crime and we have disagreements, like anywhere else. We are an independent lot, but we are also a patriotic lot. Unfortunately, our men offer themselves up as cannon fodder more than any other region of the country because of this sense of patriotism.

        And for the record, many Southerners—and Red State residents in general—view the Blue States as a foreign country as well. But just because you and I don’t see eye-to-eye doesn’t mean we are evil or you are evil, we are dumb or you are dumb, we are hateful or you are hateful. It just means we come from a different place, with a different upbringing and a different value set.

        I encourage you to visit the South and see this for yourself. See its beauty and learn its history. I also encourage you to take a look at something you probably haven’t considered in a while: the U.S. Constitution. While there is still some right in this country, there is much wrong as well. We can correct this only by returning to Constitutional governance. Red Staters and Blue Staters have a lot of differences, but the Constitution should be one thing we all have in common and should be able to agree upon.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

        • libertytrain

          Dear Mr. Livingston, you said that so well and beautifully -

  • Old Henry

    Well Mr. Root since you have also never been a Communist you could most definitely never be a union leader.

    I enjoy your comentary each week and this one was very well aimed and stated. This is a message that needs to be trumpeted from the roof tops.

  • FreedomFighter

    Our community organizer Marxist NON-PRESIDENT, this video explains why we are attacked, insulted, its the model for take over of a country by MARXISTS

    “Marxism in America” by Lt. Gen. (Ret.) W.G. Boykin – OAK

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7w3ZEbC09k

    We must move these usurpers out of goverment and media and take back our schools and NEVER LET THEM CONTROL PRIVATE WEAPONS.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Angel Wannabe

      FF, Been following him for a while now. Correct me if I’m wrong, but Boykin just bowed out of West Points prayer breakfast, as someone didn’t like his take on Muslims and gave him trouble about it.

      • FreedomFighter

        Dont know Angel, been preping for next what I thinks going to happen within the 12-24 months, hope it does not happen.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

        • Angel Wannabe

          FF, Not sure its going to be that long__we’ve an election in there yet, “IF”.

  • noel

    for a president who promised transparency, he has been no more than a typical DIMocRAT!!! after all, you can’t outpromise a DIMocRAT!!! cabinet full of tax evaders and frauds, yet the american people are so dumbed down they still have him near a 50% approval rating? amazing what a bunch of morons our liberal arts universities are turning out. i’ll tell you what, when the economy stays frozen as a result of his promises and the unemployment rate, which btw is well over 14% in actuallity, goes even higher, these socialists ideologues will be looking for work for themselves and their kids. only then wiull they realize how ignorant they have been to elect obongo!!! then, it will already be too late. better hope someone will be elected who will actually work through a deficit reduction that’s FOR REAL!!! quit giving money we don’t have to foreign countries, able bodied welfare do nothings, millionaire subsidies, & cut spending accross the board. ron paul has it right on many fronts, but in regards to irna and illegal drugs, save marijuana, he’s a crackpot. can’t support him on that garbage!!! theme for 2012? OBAMANOS!!!

    • Sparkle

      Noel, haven’t you heard we are slowly coming out of the recession, which is the rate (“slowly”) most economists predicted would be the best case scenario? Are you aware the costs of seven years of war we endured under the previous non-tactical, draft-dodging war-mongers in the White House was not included in the budgets for those years? President Obama put it all on the books, plus he got handed the Hank Paulson/GWB/Dick TARP program debits as well, both huge reasons for budget increases; and, of course, given our indebtedness we are paying a lot of interest on the debt. In early 2008, “The Three Trillion Dollar War,” written by Joseph Steiglitz and Linda Blimes projected the Iraq War alone, which the Bush administration had said would be a $50 billion war was at $3 Trillion and counting. That was almost exactly four years ago. Do not lay blame for the economy at this President’s feet. He was a not very experienced politician when he achieved the office of President, but his instincts were good and his heart and his brain were big. Amazing the messes left by the previous administration did not bring him down. Amazing too the very personal hatred he and his family have endured with dignity and coolness. Amazing the GOTP is adamant they will run against this man, rather than run for something noble. The recent State of the Union address marked the only time, I have heard President Obama take credit for his accomplishments. He is definitely not a cowboy boots-on-the-desk braggart, although I’ve heard many describe him as arrogant. I ascribe their feelings to a deep down belief no man of color should be so intelligent, literate and eloquent. I have feared for his life every day since he was elected and I will fear for it for the next five years. He will be re-elected. I will vote for him, but I will be as happy for him (but not the country) if he loses or wins. He does not deserve the hellish hatred from the likes of most of the commentators on this board.

      • libertytrain

        goodness sparkle, your hatred is dimming your name.

        • JeffH

          :) … not to mention his/her lack of honesty…can’t be fixed I tell ya, just can’t be fixed… :)

          • libertytrain

            nope, can’t be “fixed” :)

  • noel

    GOOD JOB BOB!!! THE TRUTH CAN BE PAINFUL TO THE DUPED!!!
    OBAMANOS!!!

  • Chad

    First off, Bush was blamed for economic issues before he was even sworn in (via the Liberal media, go back and check it out). 9/11 occured 9 months into his presidency, hardly enough time for that horrible act to be attributed to his policies. We can thank the prior administration (Clinton/Gore)for not acting. If anything Pres Bush should be remembered for his leadership and ability to unite the country under catastrophic events. I went to Iraq to support his move. I spent 6 years there in the past 7 years. Things were going well and I felt safe until Obama took over, this past year was not safe at all thanks to his horrible policies.

    To all the Bush/right-wing bashers do your homework. Oh wait I’ll do it for you.

    The day the Democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009, it was actually January 3rd 2007, the day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, at the very start of the 110th Congress.

    The Democratic Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.

    For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is “Bush’s Fault”, think about this:
    January 3rd, 2007, the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress:
    The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
    The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
    The Unemployment rate was 4.6%
    George Bush’s Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION!
    Remember that day…
    January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee.
    The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy?
    BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!
    THANK YOU DEMOCRATS (especially Barney ) for taking us from 13,000 DOW, 3.5 GDP and 4.6% Unemployment…to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES!
    (BTW: Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie -starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy). Barney blocked it and called it a “Chicken Little Philosophy” (and the sky did fall!)
    And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? OBAMA
    And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie?
    OBAMA and the Democrat Congress, especially BARNEY!!!!

    So when someone tries to blame Bush…
    REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007…. THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!”
    Bush may have been in the car but the Democrats were in charge of the gas pedal and steering wheel they were driving the economy into the ditch.
    Budgets do not come from the White House.. They come from Congress and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democratic Party.
    Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 & 2009 as well as 2010 & 2011.

    In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.

    For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budget.

    And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete 2009. Let’s remember what the deficits looked like during that period:
    If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.

    If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself.
    In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is “I inherited a deficit that I voted for,
    and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th.”

    And keep in mind that the numbers favor Bush even while dealing with national catastrophes. Obama has only created catastrophes.

  • Michael O’Hara

    Boy, what baloney. All politicians are “community activists” – it’s how they get elected. They don’t get “hired” by a boss or a committee – they walk the streets, listen to people’s complaints and promise to organize a response to those problems. Some of the actually do get elected and then do organize their governments to do something about the problems.
    Running a company is not the same as being an elected official at any level, from village mayor to president of the US. The president has limited powers and must convince people to follow his lead, when a CEO can just command the employees to do something, with only occasional oversight by a board.

  • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

    Can I just add my opinion that you are all wasting too much time on trying to prove if Obama personally had high grades or not or if he did this or that. All these issues are irrelevant and your wasting time on past negatives. You should be promoting the Republican of your choice with his positives and how his positives and his positive policies will benefit your USA economy and welfare.

    It should also be remembered that University or other degrees are of no real importance unless you are a Doctor or Building or roads engineer etc, but if you are the head of an organisation…ALL you need are the skills to utilise the correct ppl with experience and qualifications to get whatever job done.

    In Australia I know of many ‘uneducated’ success stories who have become billionaires in many different industries and they themselves never got to University or Oxford, Harvard, Princeton etc

    Where has your spirit of adventure and free enterprise gone when you wish to lockout anybody from achieving anything they want to achieve including being the PRESIDENY OF THE USA?

    The job of President requires not just a panel on an interview panel to decide but tens of millions of voters look, listern, scrutinise, read papers, watch TV, watch what has been going on in Congress of his current term and then they decide with their vote. That one important job of PRESODENT OF THE USA is decided by many voters, not just a few job selectors.

    This time, the voters who vote for Obama may vote for him again because they might not have liked the performance of the Republicans blocking Obamacare, or when Congress went on holidays without passing a bill to permite the payment of wages to thousands of Airport workers…im sure those airport workers will remember that… Many times it is the the opposition who give the incumbent govt more votes…by stupid acts of political bustardry…you might think they were smart political moves at that time to gain importance amoungst your peers…but the thousands of Airport workers or other thousands of suppliers who had their payments delayed will remember what you did not what you are promising.

    Obama already has an advantage over all your candidates except DR RON PAUL. The Obama advantage is he is offering free medical services in return for higher taxes and given that the poorest in your nation outnumber the higher earning taxpayers they wont care who is going to get taxed to pay for the program.Most people dont care if Warren Buffet or the local engineer has to pay more tax to pay for this great idea of Medical services for lower cost and with the baby boomer numbers swelling substantially and worrying about how they going to pay for medical services for cancer or if they need to sell their houses etc

    I can assure you Republicans that your pushing s..t up hill to do any good with Romney, or Gingrich or Santorum. Whereas Dr Ron Paul might pursuade them to support Ron Paul because the guy is simply a VERY WISE MAN. His foreign policy is simply COMMON SENSE, his reasons why the military should not be sticking their noses in everyone elses business and to encourage free trade are all good COMMON SENSE doable ideals. RON PAULS ideas can make the OBAMA CARE supporters swing over because RON PAUL is TRUSTWORTHY…HONEST….GENUINE…..BELIEVES IN WHAT HE SAYS…HE HAS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD…HE TALKS LIKE A WISE MAN WITH A MILLENIUM OF YEARS EXPERIENCE LIVING ON THIS EARTH.

    • libertytrain

      I think I kind of have to agree with you…

  • Sparkle

    I’m an independent, who has voted for as many Republicans as Democrats in my several decades of voting. After eight years of Bush/Cheney and the Tea Partiers elected to office in 2010, I will not be voting for a GOTP candidate until the GOP becomes the GOP once again, and not some ultra-right, Victorian-era morality bunch, whose views on science hark back to the ignorance of past centuries, when wise people like Galileo were forced to denounce their scientific truths. I will proudly vote for the Harvard Magna Cum Laude graduate, the American, the big thinker who actually cares about the citizens — all of them, the excellent family man, who has had so much hate and defamation heaped upon his head. One day this “retro-era” of racist hatred and religious self-righteousness beyond all reason will be known as an ignorance blip in America’s history. President Obama will be re-elected. Get used to the idea. The hate spewed by the other candidates and their supporters (Donald Dummy, Rush and Glenn to name just a few) will firm the resolve of people of reason to re-elect the only Presidential candidate.

    • Grace

      I voted for BO and regret it. He lied to the American public and gave more tax breaks to the people wno need it the least. He has further polarized Americans from each other and been a puppet to the special interests even though the union is destroying public education. He appointed a controversial woman to the Supreme Court in Elena Kagan (Jewish) which will have consequences for my lifetime. He has done nothing to reign in the FED and continues to spend money without following through on promises to constrain spending including stopping pointless wars while our borders remain unsafe. The world is less safe with him in power. I agree with you however that the current Republican candidates cannot beat him.

    • JeffH

      Spark(ie)le…man-o-man we have another paid “hate” troll on the board…new name, same-o, same-o…

  • Dave

    DaveH says:
    February 2, 2012 at 10:18 am
    Conservatives are those who want to stick to Traditional ways.
    Liberals are those who want to change the Traditional ways.
    In the beginnings of our country, the Revolutionists were considered to be Liberal. We now call them Classical Liberals.
    The True Conservatives these days would be nearly equivalent to the Classical Liberals.
    You don’t have a clue, do you Dave?
    ————-

    You said it yourself and sunk yourself with your own words…

    Conservatives like to stick to traditional ways…

    That means Conservatives of their time wanted to stick with slavery, for women not to vote for for the elderly poverty rate to be 30-40% and not 10% (Conservatives of the day did not like SS, and they still don’t)

    Liberals faught for Civil Rights, Women’s rights and for more economic fairness. I will put the liberal record of achievement in this country against any the Conservatives have.

    Once again, you have made yourself look foolish.

    “The True Conservatives these days would be nearly equivalent to the Classical Liberals”

    Thats is a hilarious statement with no basis in fact. But if it makes you feel better at night to want to be a closet liberal draped in a conservative costume… By all means.

    • JeffH

      You trolls are really something…in your own minds! Leave it to a liberal to put his/her own spin on anything…ya’all can’t be fixed!

  • Bert Cundle Sr.

    Becomeing President of the U. S. ~ Is like Getting the job at a Department Store & Christmas, 2nd. term is staying for the returns…

  • Grace

    A Democrate was destined to win in the last presidential election cycle and Barack Obama happened to be in the right place at the right time after the media crucified Hillary (the more competent candidate). Obama is a polarizing individual who lacks the experience necessary to lead our country. His job as our president is to provide leadership and “hire” people smarter than himself to fill key roles since he relies on these individuals to advise and direct him. Herein lies the problem – without experience, he has placed incompetent people in key government roles and controversial appt to the Supreme Court (Kagan). The FED continues to operate without constraint and oversight. He is a puppet for special interests, and it is a lovefest, since he does everything he is told to do. That is the whole point and why the media supported him in the first place. He will win again for this reason, and because the Republicans do not have a relatable candidate running (young, women, and middle class do NOT relate to either Mit or Newt – and there is a reason why the media continues to ignore Ron Paul and others).

  • CQB

    Barry’s State of the Union was just more lies…

    But what’s the truth? What really happened to the $80 billion investment by U.S. citizens in Obama’s auto industry bailout?

    + + We’ve Been Lied To…
    On May 29, 2009, with General Motors nearing bankruptcy, the GM stock price hit a 71-year low of 75 cents per share. That put the market capitalization (i.e. the actual market value of the company) of General Motors at less than a half-billion dollars.

    President Obama came to the rescue with a $60 billion bailout. As of today, despite the infusion of $60 billion into GM, the company’s market capitalization is just $38 billion and Obama is claiming victory! That would be the same as buying a “fixer-upper” house for $5,000, pumping $600,000 into the house and selling the house for $380,000 — while claiming the whole episode a financial success.

    + + It gets worse….
    That’s just the tip of the iceberg. LIberty News investigative reporter Michael Becker has just posted a detailed look at what really happened to Obama’s $80 billion auto bailout — taking into account additional factors which make the actual cost to taxpayers even higher.

    • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

      CQB, your not reading between the lines when OBAMA is talking about success because firstly Stock Market values dont always value a company based on its true asset value less liabilities but seondly, the success is /should be measured in how many people kept their jobs, and how many suppliers to GM kept their jobs and businesses going and of all those tens of thousands maybe millions of families where able to keep paying their mortgages to keep their homes by not defaulting. The feds and States i imagine are now still collecting taxes off all those people and businesses still employed as a result of that $60 Billion invested in a failed company.

      If OBAMA had not assisted in the fashion they had…then imagine the flow on effect if the 202,000 employess had lost their jobs and their families had lost their homes, their children swept into poverty and food stamps? How many businesses rely on GM for business suppliying parts and other services, Wiper blades, trims, Caterers, the local lunch shops and cafes where they buy their lunches … I bet that number would swell to several million who would then need to look for work for a japanese or Chinese car maker.

      So when a President says he was successful…but the primary figures dont appear to add up…its because your calculations are based on the wrong calculations and figures and again your saying it would have been good for the Republicans to have pointed out that Obama let another million people lose their jobs and homes, so your Candidates could point the fingure and say how bad the Obama administration had failed the people of the USA.

      Now we all know that the demise GM has just been delayed because they are not too efficient and really too expensive and not as good a car maker than some japanese carmakers and it should be a stern warning to all their 202,000 workers to re-organise their affairs in the next couple years before the Republicans win office. The bailout gives the 202,000 current workers enough time to find another job with a Japanese or other Asian car marker and gives all those businesses and suppliers time to diversify so that when GM goes bust, it wont hurt them too much. Can I add that the smart ones will do as I suggest but the lazy ones will wonder what happended when GM goes bust next time.

      And let me also remind you that most of those GM workers might remember that their jobs where saved by the OBAMA administration, but you want them to know that you would have let GM go bust when it did and 202,000 would now have lost their jobs under your ideas and those of the candidate that you are now supporting or implying that you would support.

    • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

      And let me point out another very good reason why it was important to save those jobs of American workers at GM…an IMPORTANT STRATEGIC REASON you cant put a value on in $US dollar terms….can you guesss?

      Lets say the USA suddendly is involved in a much bigger war and needs to maker more tanks …it could call on those American workers to build them, whereas if all those 202,000 or less or more Auto reliant worker teams had been broken up …the USA might have to ask the Asian companies and metal shops to do the job instead…but who would you trust more to make the extra Armery ? The workers at GM or other nations?

      Sometimes maybe every time, a government has other reasons why it does not want another foreighn nation to buy the left over pieces of a bankrupt GM, all its tooling equipment, technology and intellectual property, technical management skills etc …just like JEEP now owned by the Japanese i think?

      Now I want to hear from those Republicans with an apposing view as to why GM should have been let go bankrupt.

      • JeffH

        Jeep is a division of Chrysler Group LLC, a subsidiary of Fiat.

        • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

          My information suggests it was sold off to japanese, but i’ll do more research…but i know its no longer owned by usa interests.

    • http://N/A Robert Root

      It has become painfully obvious that ultra-conservative repubs.have a firm hold on the United States of Amnesia. Since 2001 in the war(s) 6500 US troops are dead, 50,000 are wounded. The war cost well over a trillion but because Bush wouldn’t include the numbers in his budget, we can only get a educated guess at the amount of $$ spend and even less of an idea of how. There are over a million Iraqi’s and Afghan’s dead and 80 % were innocents. I need to know just what we have to show for this trillion dollars. Billions of dollars were just “lost” in Iraq but between KBR, Xe , and Halliburton we know with their Cheney “no bid contracts” they made money had over fist, and according to many troops for some very shoddy business practices. How many of the Bush administration running that war avoided military service? How in the hell can they understand what “incoming” means. Romney’s went on missions and carried briefcases not guns If Romney was president the preparations that saved lives, property, and a lot of anguish would never have happened. ” We cannot now afford to pay for national disasters.” Just ask Cristie who he would rather have in the White House right now. Sure lets privatize FEMA and watch it go to hell. The capsules and rockets that took Americans to the moon didn’t have the Jones Co. on their side, it said NASA USA and so it was socialism that put men on the moon. Now the small and non-intrusive repub party has redefined rape. Ultra-conservatives are deciding what women can / should do with their bodies. They are in the bedroom.. Catholics according to church dogma can’t use any form of birth control save for rhythm,now Ryan is a Catholic who wants to force his religious beliefs the Catholic dogma on those who do not believe the way he does. What the hell is with this religious tyranny. If you don’t want to use birth control DON’T if you don’t want an abortion don’t get one, if you don’t want to marry a person of the same sex DON’T. This intrusion of religious dogma on those who have no such beliefs is what happened in China and Russia post revolutions in a communist government. Who’s the communist ? If your 15 year old daughter is raped first she will have to prove some slime ball raped her, then she will have to take this child out of a crime to term. Vary on that dogma and go to prison .
      Women must have these babies, take them to term, deliver, but then they don’t have to feed them, house them or educate them when they can’t afford to. Now women who are raped will have to “prove” it was rape while some very low life criminals walk. What the hell are you doing ? You can own 500 AK 47 with 100rnd drums and no one is trying to take that freedom from you, but that is how you , the gun lobby and NRA want it.You want it your way to hell with the beliefs of others. When Obama is reelected you can go to Canada where there is no Fox news or hand-guns or people packing. Obamacare is in place, and French is mandatory in 90% of the schools. Your taxes will double and the prime minister is friends with Obama. However Canadian banks didn’t get involved in the sub-prime boondoggle because they respect their people enough not to allow such crimes against their people. Far more oversight on the centralized banks. PS Jeeps will stay right here romney is delusional. It gets worse every day. This is a man who’s idea of rebuilding a company is to strip it of it’s assets, claim any retirement funds, fire the workers and outsource the work to Asia. You had better open your eves and shut off Fox this county is getting better every day without you. Look around the word no one wants you in their country, Obama is far far more popular everywhere except in this untra-con bubble you have dug for yourselves. You are one of the 5 least liked , trusted, respected, desired belief structure in the world tied with North Korea. You can and will go on calling Obama a communist and hearing what you want to hear and disregarding all the rest , but for the love of the USA don’t take anyone with you especially those who’s freedom’s and rights you have / will trample into the ground. Your pushing ultra conservative Catholic Dogma, your believing people who are so shady their “news” isn’t allowed to broadcast in Canada. (Fox) your willing to steal the food right out of the mouths of the poor, sick, elderly, and disenfranchised and deliver it up to the wealthiest people on earth as if they need it. Your selling the American soul to the highest bidder.
      This isn’t “your country ” nobody took it from you, you didn’t have it in the first place, and your attempt to take back that which isn’t yours is tearing our country apart. What happens when everyone must be just like you ? ou shove your beliefs down the throat of others and blame them for your craziness. You are not a live and let live people, you are not a Golden Rule people, you are puffing up, shooting the likes of Gabby because you don’t like the way thing are going. I put up with those war criminals Bush /Cheney for 8 miserable years while he forced his war economy on the USA and left it in shambles. I don’t want to see that ever again and neither should you – - – - Robert Root

  • jopa

    eddie47d;Every time someone mentions GE I think of Ronald Reagan and the TV show General Electric Theater.I guess my age is beginning to show and that was when Reagan admitted he was a liberal before he became a RINO.A flashback from the past when Reagan was the host for years.

    • JeffH

      Reagan was fired by General Electric in 1962 in response to his reference to the TVA as one of the problems of “big government”.

      Michael Reagan contends that Attorney General of the United States Robert F. Kennedy pressured GE to cancel The General Electric Theater or at least to fire Reagan as the host if the program were to continue. The series was not dropped because of low ratings but political intervention, Michael Reagan still maintains. Michael Reagan said that Robert Kennedy told GE officials that the company would receive no federal contracts so long as Reagan was host of their showcase television series.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Electric_Theater

      • JeffH

        TVA being the Tennesse Valley Authority

  • jopa

    What Michael Reagan the adopted son of Ronald Reagan said on any topic was always under scrutiny and not given much thought before being dismissed,Ron Reagan junior on the other hand is brilliant.Michael Reagan has been fired from many radio programs over the years and hasn’t really found his place in the world.He is not a great communicator.

  • http://ru42354.wordpress.com roberoo2

    Mr Root
    Perhaps you would like to lose a couple of pounds ….. of money, Obama is statistically favored by 77% to win this election. America has caught on the the fact that upon watching Romney speak (lie) one finds themselves asking if Romney can tell the truth. His newest lie concerning Jeep should be the straw. He has 10 years of tax returns he has said “trust me” rather then produce them. Ryan is NOT in any way ready to assume the presidency neither is Romney. Why wouldn’t Mitt go on late night TV ? Why only Fox ? We will see of Mitt has told the truth in a divorce case, but you can’t paint this pig with lip-stick. He lies, he flips, he has money in foreign banks, he has outsourced thousands of jobs to China taking away hard working American workers jobs just for his bank account. He comes from a privileged background and wants to rub it in the Middle Classes noses. How many years was he a governor 4 why ? He HAS changed his position on every major issue in the campaign EVERY ONE ! — from Pro-Choice, taxes, education, Oh and don’t you think those folks in the path of Sandy are thanking GOD Obama is president now ? Huh ? Huh ? !!! well Christie is ! Ask him.. or just listen to the truth as it is something your not good at in any form. Mitt is bush on steroids .. nothing new just more of it. You live in the United States of Amnesia… What did we gain in Iraq , Afghanistan ? WHAT? Mr man in a bubble. I just hope some of you neo-con T-baggers will ex-pat to Canada — oh wait they are Socialists..Pro Choice… same sex marriage, ….established Obamacare, AND they do not allow Fox on Canadian broadcasting stations. Their hearing rendered that Fox willfully revises history, news, reports, studies, you name it Fox doesn’t have the integrity to tell the truth and so they aren’t broadcast there. So wanna put your money were your mouth is ? No ? I thought as much. Your just another talking point drone, who isn’t welcome in any other country and it’s sad. !! ……………….because I had hoped you 1%’ers and 1%’ers wanna be’s would leave the USA as it is obvious you don’t love it. The only way you repugs can win is to lie, cheat, practice self-delusion, and demonize anything you don’t like. Your “party of no” is treason as you have put your party/ political aspirations ahead of the American people, dollars over people, you encourage greed, You are NOT nice people but then again neither were the Nazi’s. Perhaps N. Korea will take you in after Obama wins as they aren’t nice people either. You need your own country to screw up (like bush did) because most of America is tired of your lying, self-serving , greedy, lead by fear and misrepresentation. Why now buy the Caymen Islands romney has his money there and you can spend your money to buy something worth while as opposed to buying people and the government. You know not how to earn anything save for an unsavory reputation, if it isn’t to your liking you buy it and destroy it. You and yours really are miserable people but after Obama wins, you can justify going somewhere else as your a racist and will /can’t ever see Obama for what he is. A president who saved our bacon, got us out of Iraq, halted jobs going over seas, well it goes on and on but why tell you , you already know it but people like you are in denial, self-delusion. There is always the long walk on the short plank for you unAmericans. Check to see if Romeny or Ryan or their kids have served in the armed forces. How about Cheney, Limbaugh, hannity, beck,O’ Reilly none of you, and bush’s daddy kept him out of the line of fire. Your phony, your unAmerican, your verbal bully’s who don’t practice what you preach. . . My people would be very happy to see you go to Canada but they don’t want you or your blood money. Outside of this bubble you live in here in the USA because we tolerate liars cheaters, greedy basturds and “the party of NO” no one wants you. Look around you people can’t buy respect, you can’t buy trust, outside of the US you can’t revise your criminal history. Thank God your a flash in the pan as humans can’t live on hate and blood money.After Obama wins and you want to leave I will vouch for you, but only in Somalia, because they are so much like you. Chow !! PS you talk about some one taking “your country” well they did, they are called the Bush administration and Cheney ran this country for 8 years. He robbed this country blind through KBR and Halliburton.. NON-BID CONTRACTS ??? Just what makes you think this is “your” country, you don’t join the US military? You don’t pay taxes, you don’t create jobs, you are a taker and you took the wealth of this country and put in banks in the E.C. We took back this country just before it slid into oblivion and your so much into power and greed, you lost this country . We fought your wars, we went without health care so you didn’t have to pay for the health care of those who worked in the US, you want to help those who are already making well over a million a year, but you don’t give a damn about the majority of the US – -the Middle Class. You have kicked us around long enough and you just got used to easy money.. go fight your own wars, steal your own 401K’s and pensions, bust your own unions, refuse a good education to your own kids, go to the ER when you need health care, pay 36% taxes, have some clown running for president tell you he has no use for you, and live in a post-Sandy world with romney as president, when he says “we can’t afford to pay for national disasters ” when you home is 5 feet under water ” and insurance co’s don’t pay for acts of God. You work all your life for what you get and have it wiped out only to have a president tell you, he can afford to take your tax dollars but your on your own in crisis. Ask Cristie… Let us know your mailing address in Canada — oh and leave your guns at home, they don’t want a bunch of crazies with guns in their streets. On the other hand their banks didn’t get into the “sub-prime” rip-offs because they care more about criminals taking advantage of their people. You know about the only place you can go were they won’t kick you out is the Moon and I’d say you better get started before romeny sells it to China…..

    Robert Root

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