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Who’s Your Daddy?

January 12, 2013 by  

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Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • phideaux

    Another classic Ben. Keep up the good work.

    • Karolyn

      Now THAT was certainly a funnier comment than everything Ben had to say! :-)

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Karolyn, do NOT worry. It’s very understandable than with your brainal menopause you can’t understand the GOOD humor. It happens sometimes in the nature.

      • http://naver samurai

        Karolyn, if you think so little about Ben’s humor and ability to communicate, then why do you come here every weekend? I don’t mind, just asking. If you think Ben was funny, then take a look at this:

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “A patriot must be a religious man.”

        Thomas Jefferson

    • FreedomFighter

      One of your best Ben, my wife was laughing out loud in the kitchen hearing it.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

    • Michael Andrie

      i am a growing addict to these skits . longer and more of them … just like any other addict huh ? surprised the liberals aren’t for it because they are all for addictions .

    • Karolyn

      What are you talking about Michael? “Liberals are all for addiction.” What is that supposed to mean. If you are talking about legalizing drugs, not only liberals are for that. You can see that evidenced here on this site.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        “A DUNCE has no delight in understanding, but in expressing HER own foolishness.” (Proverbs 18)

        Karolyn, Michael Andrie is “talking about” Ben’s “SKITS” and that “supposed to mean” that he is “addict” to the Ben‘s “SKITS”, not your nonsense.

        Karolyn, beside the “COMMON SENSE” & “LOGIC” you have problems with the English as well.

        Michael Andrie wrote about HIS addiction “to these skits”.

        Synonyms for the “skit” are: gibe, taut, joke, mockery, jeer, laugh, prank

        The Webster dictionary’s definition for the “SKIT” is – “A short theatrical sketch or act, usually comical. This is exactly what the Ben’s “SKITS” are.

        So, Karolyn, since when the word “SKITS” became the synonym for the “CRACK” or “POT”?
        Dear, time after time you are PROVING how twisted, incoherent, illogical and DISJOINTED YOUR Libtardic mindset is.

        Once I gave you an advise to seek the psychiatric help. It still on the table.

        P.S. Karolyn, if you will reply, please follow my thoughts and not your illogical imagination and fantasy. Please jump and submerge into REALITY. Thank you.

        With no respect for idiotic stupidity, Imperfect Alondra

        P.S. This is for Ben. Ben, you owe me THANKS for my Pit Bull fight for you, man.

      • Karolyn

        My dear MRS. Perfect – Michael’s direct quote was “surprised the liberals aren’t for it because they are all for addictions.” He was referring to liberals being “for addictions” in general. I will never stoop to your level and use your type of language in response to anyone.

      • Michael Andrie

        Karolyn you Are almost correct when you made comment that “liberals are all for addiction” … what i am inferring is addicted to welfare benefits free birth control throwing a pep rally for every abortion … those type addictions

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Karolyn, again you tried your best and again you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.
        Michael Andrie, you missed the Lefts addiction to the LIES, Distortions and STUPIDITY.

        And of cause Karolyn is right (at least once) – Crack & Pot as well.
        I think Karolyn smocked alot today.

        P.S. “You Can’t Fix Stupid. Stupid is forever” – Ron White

        Karolyn, it’s not “hate” tirade. It’s called “Announcing the TRUTH” with love.

      • Karolyn

        Alondra – “with love”? OMG! You speak with love? You have to be kidding! As far as “smocking”, if I did, that would only help me to be more aware of truth.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        So Karolyn, what keeps you coming to this site? You do realize that you are not trusted, nor believed, not even liked by the majority of the posters. We are not interested in educating you because you can not be educated.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Hi Nadzieja, vain attempt. Just think, WHERE Miss Karolyn will get such attention without moving her buttocks?

        P.S. The problem is that she isn’t interested in her education. She and her comrade Eddie declared the war on “EDUCATION”.

    • sam1966

      I second that motion. Sook Young heard what you were saying and keeps laughing when we talk about this clip. Here is something that tells about the starting of the Second American Revolution:

      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

      “Governments could not give rights essential to happiness. We claim them from a higher source; from the King of kings, and the Lord of all the earth.”

      Rev. Johnathan Dickinson
      Signer of the Declaration of Independence

  • http://personalliberty Alondra

    Ben, as always fine and dandy, not for Libtards’ mindset and intellectual deficits.

    • Warrior

      Think about this. Rahmfather wants to close some underutilized high scrools in chicago to save money. OF course, the teacher union is totally against this act of treachery, so the city establishes a “blue ribbon” panel to study the issue. Well, they announced the results of their hard work yesterday. THis stalwart group has come to the conclusion that these scrools cannot be closed because it would be too dangerous to mix the “rival gangs”.

      Ahh “progressives”, they are just amazing creatures! Oh BTW, chicago IS a “sanctuary” city in case you didn’t know.

      • Bill

        Good comment, Warrior
        It is a good example of our tax dollars at work. If they raise taxes on the rich, this is a good example of how the money will be spent

        Lower taxes, Fire the unions

      • You Were Expecting What?

        Warrior, the collective IQ in the Chicago (read” City Full of Druggies and Criminals”) is still just a single digit number, and you could put them all in one school, put razor wire arount the whole place, and throw in just enough food every day to feed half the population. That way, the population would self-control their numbers, something their parents are incapable of doing since they all think from their groins.

      • JUKEBOX

        Rahm would not have to put armed guards in these schools, because the gangs will handle the security with their “illegal” guns.

      • eddie47d

        Expecting: I have to agree that many do think “with their groin” yet that is traditionally true about any race or nationality who are poor in their surroundings. Whether in white Romania,the slums of Brazil or the poor areas of Thailand. I read years ago that when a group of Haitian women were asked why they have so many children and they responded “that they have nothing (possessions) and kids give them something that is theirs”. I’m just saying its a worldwide problem.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        DEMONcrats, Libtards and ALL other corky Leftists, like eddie47d(onkey) a.k.a. DEMONcratic Ass,

        C O N G R A T U L A T I O N !!!

        Now you have the REAL occasion for celebration of your FRAUDULENT “victory” for which many parasites, idle freeloaders and enviers voted 2 and more times.

        You voted for the “FAIR SHARE” a.k.a. Tax increase on the top 2%. Now you have it.

        According to the Tax Policy Center’s analysis the taxes will affect more than 77% of Americans:

        Households making between $40,000 and $50,000 will face an average payroll tax increase of $579 in 2013;

        Households making between $50,000 and $75,000 will face an average payroll tax increase of $822;

        Households making $100,000+ will pay an average of $1,950

        The median U.S. income of $50,502, the federal government tax rate will increase from 25% to 28%; the federal government tax will be an extra $126 per month, or about $1,512 per year.

        The Bush’s a $1,000-per-child tax credit will expire. So add to the total tax increase amount.

        Again, congratulations Libtards. You got your “FAIR SHARE”.

        What the Magic Book says? – Goes around, COMES AROUND.

        Alondra, Proud Naturalized American, Un-Apologetic Christian Bigot, the Tea Party Lover (in any sense), definite Homophobe & Islamophobe, PC snubber and Hater of the VOLUNTARY Stupidity

        • BR549

          Alondra, I would hope you also understand that the Republican Party is just as complicit as the Democrats. Eddie has been politely inquisitive with me on occasion on other threads, which is why I might be inclined to give him some latitude, and that is a far cry from his brain-dead socialist brethren. But what we have to also watch for is those from the brain-dead right, who still labor under the misconception that THEIR party representatives are somehow better than the Democrat Party representatives.

          I had joined the Tea Party back when Ron Paul’s supporters had started it, but after the faltering Republican Party co-opted it because they were having traction problems, I went back to hinterlands of being totally Independent.

          Many of us are becoming victims of our own frustration with the direction our country is taking and I have certainly taken my fair share of pot shots at a few of the hard core libtards here, but I think we have to realize that what we really have in this country is an EDUCATION problem and that if we were all up to speed with what is REALLY happening, we wouldn’t be having these arguments on line.

          I mention this (not to pick on either you or Eddie) only because this is EXACTLY how the globalists are expecting us to behave and we can’t let them have that luxury. They are expecting us to become so frustrated with not being able to find any discernible targets, that we start attacking each other instead, and that is exactly what is happening.

          As the poo starts hitting the fan, there will no doubt be a whole slew of liberals who will be jumping ship and hoping they can find even a BB gun, because believing in this Hope and Change crap is going to start getting old REALLY FAST. I’ll bet that when the time comes, Eddie will come around a lot faster than some of the others and he could be someone you could share a trench with. That’s my take, anyway, but I’ll let him speak for himself.

          My two cents.

      • Karolyn

        “Miss Perfect” What can one say to someone who knows it all?

      • BMWSID

        Go ahead and mix them. Let them thin each other out! It will be that many fewer for Obammy’s personal police force draft!

      • eddie47d

        Bingo! I told you all she’d wake up like an angry old grizzly bear and strike back with them big paws of hers. At least Alondra has some important facts this this time to go along with her extra helping of snarky remarks. We all knew taxes would be going up for a few years now because Congress has been fiddling while Washington burns. My property tax went up $520 today because of 3 bond issues that were approved in November which I voted against. That’s the way the cookie crumbles!.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        “The mouth of DUNCE pours forth foolishness.” (Proverbs 15)

        Karolyn a.k.a. Miss Libtardic Stupidity, you already said so much nonsensical incoherent jumble that it would be nice for you to pause for some time and wonder about your absurd stupidity, ridiculous ignorance and so incredible illiteracy on so many subjects.

        BTW, contrary to your overestimated self-esteem and self-worthiness I am conscious that “‘There is NONE righteous, no, NOT ONE” (Rom.3; Ps.14; 53)

        Karolyn, as a matter of fact I don’t care one single bit what you and your blame-brained supporter eddie47d(onkey) a.k.a. Ass, godless hard-core libtards, think about me. Sorry, but I don’t.

        And “[W]ith me it is a VERY SMALL THING that I should BE JUDGED BY YOU (D OR BY A HUMAN court. In fact, I do not even judge myself…but He WHO JUDGES ME IS the LORD.” (1 Corinthians)

        Karolyn, if you would not be so godless you would know that ONLY Almighty God is PERFECT.
        Think about that, Draculette Karolyn.

        P.S. Sorry for not being Politically Correct. I am NOT.

        My Magic Book teaches me:
        “Answer a fool ACCORDING to HIS/HER folly, lest he/she be wise in his/her own eyes.” (Proverbs 26)

        BTW, I am not “Miss” as you are. I am a Mrs.

      • Karolyn

        No sense in crying about it, right eddie? (which is what we hear here on a consistent basis. Wah! Wah! Wah!

      • Karolyn

        Never mind being politically correct, are you able to be civil, Alondra? Do you so intelligently discourse with people in person like this?

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Yes BR549, I “understand that the Republican Party is just as complicit as the Democrats” very well.

        I am not a Republican. I am Independent and a strong supporter of Tea Party. I voted Republican, because it’s a slower march into the distraction of Republic, and because I had NO alternative choice/pick.

        Republicans are the same traitors as DEMONcrats. They had ONE chance to not re-elect the crier John Boehner as a speaker. He is the same political prostitute as snake Reid and witch Pelosi. Equal!!! The House should to elect Allen West as a Speaker.

        We do not have an EDUCATION. We have INDOCTRINATION.

        “Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever” — Vladimir Lenin, Soviet Dictator

        “EDUCATION IS A WEAPON whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed.”– Joseph Stalin, Soviet Dictator

        “When an opponent declares, ‘I will not come over to your side,’ I calmly say, ‘YOUR CHILD BELONGS TO US already… What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. IN A SHORT TIME THEY WILL KNOW NOTHING ELSE BUT THIS NEW COMMUNITY.’” – Adolf Hitler, Speech November 1933

        “…modern methods of propaganda. Of these the most influential is what is called education … Where all children go to school, and all schools are controlled by the government, the AUTHORITIES CAN CLOSE THE MINDS OF THE YOUNG TO EVERYTHING contrary to official orthodoxy. .. THE POPULACE WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO KNOW HOW ITS CONVICTIONS WERE GENERATED.” — Bertrand Russell (British philosopher, historian, social critic), “The Impact of Science on Society”

        As late as 1981,William H. Seawell, a professor of education at the University of Virginia (University of USA) said: “Public schools promote civic rather than individual pursuits. . .We MUST focus on creating citizens for the good of society. . .EACH CHILD BELONGS TO THE STATE.”

        Leftists=Fascists=Communists=Liberals=DEMONcrats are against Privet, Christian Schools or Home-schooling because they want to take from parents the authority over children and INDOCTRINATE a.k.a. BRAINWASH them with THEIR “history” and THEIR “values”. They do NOT need FREE THINKERS. They NEED obedient, compliant, submissive & silent, doers/executers.

        The “great leader” Barry the Deceiver, in his State of the Union Address on January 24, 2012 said:
        “We also know that when students don’t walk away from their education, more of them walk the stage to get their diploma. When students are NOT ALLOWED TO DROP OUT, they do better. So TONIGHT, I AM PROPOSING that every state — EVERY STATE — REQUIRES THAT ALL STUDENTS STAY IN HIGH SCHOOL UNTIL THEY graduate or TURN 18.” (Applause)

        What it tells you? He is taking the ideas from the real ABSOLUTE AUTOCRATS.

        Barry O’Liar is categorically against School Choice, but he did not send his daughters to the Public School.

        The parents send their children to the public schools, colleges, universities for an education, for which they are paying fortunes because the PAYMENTS INCLUDE HIDDEN PRICE FOR INDOCTRINATION A.K.A. BRAINWASHING.

        Watch on the YouTube “Banned College Lecture! U.S False Education Exposed”

        In the public schools in Detroit, MI, according to the U.S. Department of Education, only 7 percent of the eighth graders are grade-level proficient or better in reading.

        To save an EDUCATION in America we have to break the power of the teacher’s union.
        Obama’s “invest in education” means invest in Teachers’ Union, who pay him back by support and “money laundering”

        “The direction in which EDUCATION starts a man will determine his future in life” – Plato, influential Greek philosopher

        “If a man neglects EDUCATION, he walks lame to the end of his life” – Plato

        This is my “dime”.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Karolyn @ 5:10
        Yes Karolyn, I am “so intelligently discourse with people in person like this”. But people I am with are on the same intellectual and philosophical level. They know to separate the lie from TRUTH.

        Karolyn, the Truth units, the Lie divides. It’s an axiom of reasoning, which commends itself as evident and accepted as true without controversy.

        The bible says that distortion of TRUTH is EVIL.

        Very often the truth is not pretty and costly.

        The Libtards HATE the TRUTH. It’s undeniable fact. Therefore they labeled the TRUTH as a “hate” and “incivility” with the purpose to silence/censor truth permanently.

        I am sure Karolyn, you heard many times “You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” It means: If you do NOT KNOW the TRUTH, so you are the slave of LIES and DECEPTIONS.

        What is the truth? It’s a reality = actual fact and not an opinion, supposition or an assumption. The truth is based on the knowledge of God’s Truth. People sin because they lack of knowledge of the God’s TRUTH.

        Motto: “Magna est veritas et praevalet” – “The truth is mighty, and will prevail”

      • Karolyn

        It’s all in perception, Alondra. What you BELIEVE is truth may not be another’s belief. And I do mean “belief.” Why fight about it? Why does it bother you so much that people don;t agree with you?

      • Bill

        There is a solution to bad kids, a job. The problem is the failed econimic policies of the the liberals in office perpetuate poverty.

        A thriving, free market economy cures a lot of ills

      • Bill

        You could also add to your self description “Passionate fighter aganst Stupidity” , and you could use John Waynes saying ” Life is tough, and it it is even tougher if you are stupid”

        Keep up the great comments

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Bill @January 12, 2013 at 9:19 pm

        Bill, the Libtards philosophy is:

        1. “Civility for me, but NOT FOR THEE”
        2. “Tolerance for me, but NOT FOR THEE”
        3. “Free Speech for me, but NOT FOR THEE. You shot up, because your speech is a “HATE” speech.”
        4. “Do as I say, not as I do”

        Libtards are using the offensive maneuver – “Shock Attack” – in attempt to place the “enemy” under PSYCHOLOGICAL pressure with the purpose to keep an “enemy” on defense. And they hate when the “enemy” goes on offense.

        “You Can’t Fix Stupid. Stupid is forever” – Ron White

        As John Wayne used to say “That’s just the way it is”.

        Bill @January 13, 2013 at 12:27 pm
        Bill, thanks for the support and encouragement. It helps to uphold the spirit of confrontation with the Ms. Liberal Stupidity.

      • Vicki

        Alondra. May I offer a suggestion with respect to Karolyn? Rather than calling her names, (even if you feel it justified) try asking her to explain why she feels that it is a positive thing for her to take your money for her pet causes. She doesn’t even have the courage to do it herself. She hires government agents (IRS) to do it for her.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        I thought you said you were God, Karolyn, so how is it you don’t act like God.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Vicki, I respectfully disagree with you. Alondra is correct in calling Karolyn what she is. It is not name calling as we have been brought up to believe. Leftists advance when they shut people up. We are supposed to know what Leftists are and how they behave and if we have to call them the predators that they are so be it.

      • Vicki

        Nadzieja Batki says:
        “Vicki, I respectfully disagree with you. ”

        Accepted. However I (and possibly many of those who WOULD listen to Alondra’s opinions) skip over them cause we don’t want to spend time untangling the useful opinions from the ad hominem attacks. Even when they are justified.

      • Kate8

        While I completely understand the outrage toward the blatant injustice being perpetrated upon our country by communist/corporate factions, to the point where “there are none righteous, no not one” among our political class…

        And that there is a great deal of trepidation about things which are coming at us in increasingly rapid succession, and which do bode ill for our nation…

        With all due respect, I have come to realize that if we are to speak of these things while making reference to Christ, we would be wise to consider how Christ would view our words to those with whom we disagree. He always spoke with compassion and respect while relating absolute truth to even his most ardent enemies.

        I have come to realize that it serves no good purpose to be unkind…although sometimes it is so satisfying to the ego mind… But if we are going to represent ourselves as lovers of Christ, we might consider exactly what words he might use and what is his attitude toward those who hate him.

        Otherwise, we might want to leave him out of our opinions, because if they reflect poorly on him… well, we might want to think about that.

      • Vicki

        Well said Kate8.

      • sam1966

        Well said Kate 8 and good listing of facts Alondra. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriots. Here is something marking the 40th anniversary of roe vs. wade (I use small letters to show the disgrace of this day.). Sook Young and I have donated to this red envelope movement and we hope some other patriots do also.

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “Cursed be all that learning that is contrary to the cross of Christ.”

        Rev. Jonathan Dickinson
        Signer of the Declaration of Independence

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Kate says: “…how Christ would view our words to those with whom we disagree. He always spoke with compassion and respect while relating absolute truth to even his most ardent enemies.”

        Wrong Kate. Christ NOT spoke “with compassion and respect”. He spoke angrily with the hypocrites: Scribes, Pharisees and Sadducees, DISTORTED the TRUTH and TWISTED the Scripture.

        As you know Hypocrisy is FALSENESS and PRETENSE, which always involves the DECEPTION of others and always was considered a LIE.

        How John the Baptist, who prepared the way for Jesus and Baptized Him: treated Scribes, Pharisees and Sadducees (the enemies of the TRUTH):

        “BROOD OF VIPERS! Who warned you to flee from the WRATH to come? 8 Therefore bear fruits worthy of REPENTANCE” (Matthew 3:7; Luke 3:7)

        Here is HOW Jesus Christ treated them
        “you shall not be like the HYPOCRITES.”

        “do not be like the HYPOCRITES, with a sad countenance. For they disfigure their faces that they may appear to men to be fasting. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward.”

        “BROOD OF VIPERS! How can you, BEING EVIL, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.”

        “HYPOCRITES! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you…”

        “HYPOCRITES![a] You know how to discern the face of the sky, but you cannot discern the signs of the times.”

        “But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, “Why do you test Me, you HYPOCRITES? 19 Show Me the tax money.”

        “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. 14 WOE TO YOU, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES!”

        “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES!”

        “SERPENTS, BROOD OF VIPERS! How can you escape the CONDEMNATION OF HELL?”

        “WOE TO YOU, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! For you are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. 28 Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of HYPOCRISY and LAWLESSNESS.29 “WOE TO YOU, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES!”

        “appoint him his portion with the HYPOCRITES. There shall be WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH.”

        “He began to say to His disciples first of all, “Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is HYPOCRISY. 2 For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, nor hidden that will not be known.”

        “cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”
        This phrase appears in Gospel 8 (eight) times.
        How do you think, this warning Christ spoke with “compassion and respect”?

        • Katrael

          Alondra, I don’t want to interrupt the thread with my comment but I feel I need to say something. I like what you have to say and how you say it. I consider it a compassionate act when someone forcefully points out our incorrect behavior. How else would you get their attention? It’s the same thing as shouting at a person standing on the railroad tracks with the train coming. Keep up the good work and welcome to this beautiful country.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        “Then Jesus went into the temple of God[f] and drove out all those who bought and sold in the temple, and overturned the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who sold doves. 13 And He said to them, “It is written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer,’[g] but you have made it a ‘den of thieves.’”

        Kate, how do you think, when Jesus drove out the money changers and the buyers and overturned the tables and the seats, He did it politely with the smile or He was angry? When He did reproach people calling them “thieves”, He did it kindly with the excusable smile?

        “The heart of fools PROCLAIMS FOOLISHNESS.”
        “A dupe lays open his folly.”
        “The mouth of fools pours forth foolishness.”
        “The mouth of fools feeds on foolishness.”
        “A fool has no delight in understanding, but in expressing his own heart.”
        “Do not speak in the hearing of a fool, for HE DESPISES THE WISDOM”
        “Answer a fool ACCORDING to HIS folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes.”
        “As a dog returns to his own vomit, so a FOOL REPEATS HIS FOLLY.”
        “The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God.”
        “A wise man’s heart is at his right hand; but a FOOL’S HEART AT HIS LEFT.”


        P.S. I intentionally did not include the Books, Chapters and Verses. Read Bible for yourself. Especially New Testament.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Katrael, THANKS for your kind words and encouragement.

        May God BLESS America.

      • Kate8

        Alondra – Christ directed his wrath toward those who knowingly were the perpetrators of evil. When it came to those who suffered from the delusion put upon them by said perpetrators, he said (at a time of his greatest suffering at their hands), “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do”.

        Alondra, their are evil ones who have, with great malice, caused great damage to humanity, using methods of distortion, confusion and our innate desires toward self-gratification to corrupt our minds and our bodies. Yes, THEY are deserving of our greatest contempt, because they DO know what they are doing. But their victims are unwitting for the most part, and do not understand what they are doing because their ability to process thought (and their exposure to erroneous information) has been impaired.

        However, Christ also told us to love our enemies, and to do good to those who seek to harm us. By blessing our enemies we free ourselves from our own negative attachments to them, as anger and outrage only harm ourselves and are, in fact, the exact aim of such enemies.

        “Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.” “Judge not, lest ye be judged.” “Let he among you who is without sin cast the first stone.” “…turn the other cheek.” He also tells us that we will be hated because of him.

        “What is the greatest commandment?” Christ was asked by his diciples.

        “Love the Lord thy God with all your heart, all your mind, all your soul and all your strength”, he said. And the second greatest is to “Love your neighbor as yourself”.

        In other words, his Greatest Commandment to us is LOVE, because Love puts all things right.

        All I’m saying is that the trolls are victims of this ideology, and have sold themselves for a few “pieces of silver”, and their own treachery will come around to mete the consequences. They have been brainwashed and indoctrinated since childhood, and do not understand what lies beyond the false promises of the evil ones.

        Outrage and ridicule are the methods of those deluded ones. How do we perceive ourselves as better than they if we use those same tactics? Sure, it can be fun to engage in banter with them at times. God knows, I do it, too. But just be aware that coming across in that way only serves to further alienate and divide. If we are at peace within ourselves, we can look (as Christ surely did) with compassion at those who are the victims of illusion, and pray for them.

        Christ spoke the truth like the cut of a sword (the symbol of truth), but he aways spoke from a place of complete peace within his heart. That is why his words had such impact. Remember the storm at sea, and his admonition to his frightened diciples that, no matter how stormy and fierce things seem, we can command the elements if we are in a place of stillness within. He said, “Peace! Be still!” He was really commanding our hearts, not the weather.

        Christ is the epitome of patience for those who are lost. He came for the lost. The saints do not need saving. Who among us perceives ourself to be without fault?

        All human emotion stems from two primary states: Love and fear. Only Love has the capacity for healing. Anger, hate, contempt… derive from fear, and can only result in more of the same.

        I only mention this because I became aware, upon reading your posts, that they became very tedious and judgmental. You may speak a lot of truth as you see it, but your meaning is lot to those to whom you are speaking. These people do not, for the most part, know Christ, and the Christ you present is not one anyone who did not know him would want to know.

        But that’s just me. It’s apparent that there are others who agree with you, so my opinion doesn’t really matter. Just take it for what it is worth, which may be nothing. Of course, you are free to say whatever you choose, however you choose to say it. Your opinion is as valid as any, and I do respect where you are coming from.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Kate, reading your reply, I had feeling that I am reading Genesis 3. I will not address each your paragraph, as usually I do, because tomorrow I have 3 hours trip.

        You wrote: “Christ directed his wrath toward those who knowingly were the perpetrators of evil.”

        Christ directed his wrath not only toward those who knowingly were the perpetrators of evil, but toward those who unknowingly were the perpetrators of evil and who rejected the TRUTH as well.

        “But their victims are unwitting for the most part, and do not understand what they are doing because their ability to process thought (and their exposure to erroneous information) has been impaired.”

        It’s totally UNTRUE.
        Some people are just lazy, some do not believe in the “FAIRY TALES” and “MYTHS”, but majority choosing doctrines, which “SUIT THEIR OWN DESIRES”.

        “They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work.”

        “…Even some of you will DISTORT the TRUTH in order to draw a fallowing.”

        “…damnable heresy, denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their pernicious ways. And because of them THE WAY of TRUTH WILL BE SLANDERED. In their greed they will MAKE UP CLEVER LIES to get hold of your money. But they are condemned long time ago, and their destruction is on the way.”

        “Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.”

        “Do not love the world or the things in the world.”

        People want SALVATION. But “SALVATION” requires HURD SPIRITUAL work. Not one hour a week.

        You wrote: “Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.” “Judge not, lest ye be judged.” “Let he among you who is without sin cast the first stone.” “…turn the other cheek.”
        All these citations are taken out of context., I’ll address two of them.

        1) Vengeance aka revenge, is a harmful action against a person or group in response to a grievance; payback, retribution, retaliation. Where you see my revenge?

        2) “Judge not, lest ye be judged.” – this phrase has been quoted out of context.
        The Scripture tell us to rebuke and correct:

        “Rebuke your neighbor frankly so you will not share in their guilt.”

        “…go and point out their fault … If they still refuse to listen, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.”

        “…CORRECT, REBUKE AND ENCOURAGE—with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when PEOPLE WILL NOT PUT UP WITH SOUND DOCTRINE. Instead, TO SUIT THEIR OWN DESIRES … They will turn their ears AWAY FROM THE TRUTH AND TURN ASIDE TO MYTHS.”

        And this is the TRUTH:
        “Do not rebuke MOCKER or he will hate you; Rebuke a WISE man and he will respect you.”
        “He who refuses CORRECTION goes astray.”
        “Whoever corrects a mocker invites insults; whoever rebukes the wicked incurs abuse.”

        You say: “And the second greatest is to “Love your neighbor as yourself”.

        Here is what means to love your neighbor:
        “So he answered and said, “ ‘YOU SHALL LOVE the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,’[h] and ‘YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’
        …But he, wanting to justify himself, said to Jesus, “And WHO IS MY NEIGHBOR?”
        Then Jesus answered and said: “A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, who stripped him of his clothing, wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. Now by chance a certain priest came down that road. And when he saw him, he PASSED BY on the other side. Likewise a Levite, when he arrived at the place, came and looked, and PASSED BY on the other side. But a certain SAMARITAN, as he journeyed, came where he was. And when he saw him, he HAD COMPASSION. So he went to him and BANDAGED HIS WOUNDS, POURING ON OIL AND WINE; AND HE SET HIM ON HIS OWN ANIMAL, BROUGHT HIM TO AN INN, AND TOOK CARE OF HIM. ON THE NEXT DAY, WHEN HE DEPARTED,[J] HE TOOK OUT TWO DENARII, GAVE THEM TO THE INNKEEPER, AND SAID TO HIM, ‘TAKE CARE OF HIM; AND WHATEVER MORE YOU SPEND, WHEN I COME AGAIN, I WILL REPAY YOU.’ So WHICH OF THESE THREE DO YOU THINK WAS NEIGHBOR TO HIM who fell among the thieves?”
        And he said, ‘HE WHO SHOWED MERCY ON HIM.’”

        This is the most distorted verse. The Jesus’s definition of “Love your neighbor” is totally different than yours is.

        Jesus Said: “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.”
        It means that He came to bring the SPIRITUAL WAR.

        P.S. You said: “I became aware, upon reading your posts, that they became very tedious and judgmental.”
        Kate, you DO NOT HAVE to read them. Just skip them.

        “He who justifies the WICKED, and he who condemns the JUST, both of them alike are an ABOMINATION to the LORD.”

      • Kate8

        My dear Alondra – I fully understand where you are coming from with your arguments. I cannot disagree with your assessment of these passages. My concern is for inner peace and well-being, which is only realized by the Spirit of Divine Love.

        What I disagree with you on is the use of name-calling and like tactics, which are exactly those used by the Left. Calling someone “dunce” and “libtard”, i.e., are not productive. I know how I feel when called names, though I understand the negative energies behind it.

        Also, results are what we need to look at, and blasting people with words of hellfire and brimstone only turn people off, so it depends on whether your intent is condemnation or drawing people toward Christ. Their response is their own. We can only be responsible for our own actions and intent. If we are rebuffed, we are told to shake them off like shaking dust from our feet.

        Christ was Absolute Truth. His wrath was borne of Love, like the wrath of a parent toward an errant child. He was never mean-spirited.

        Also, hurling wrathful (or any) scripture at the lost is meaningless to them (“casting pearls before swine). And I am aware of said scripture, but I try to place the entire scriptural message within context, and examine it from the truth of my heart.

        Like I said, the symbolism of the sword is “Truth”, and it is double-edged.

        The bottom line is, we become what we think and speak. If we hurl negative energies toward others, we will be consumed by negative energies ourselves. If we seek to dwell in the Holy Spirit of Love and Oneness with Creator, then we are blessed and at peace… “the Peace which passeth understanding”…

        We are to separate ouselves from vile people so that we do not become like them, or even be affected by their evil in any way… And so that our children to not associate with them and take them in marriage, corrupting virtue.

        Christ chastised evil, but he was the embodiment of Purity, Love and Peace. His purpose was to cast out evil so the good could come forth. Who among us can claim that we possess this virtue?

        Christ also condemned the legalistic attitude of the Pharasees, who lived by the letter of the Law but knew nothing of the spirit of the Law. He said that he came to write the Laws upon our hearts, and the greatest of these is Love.

        Our own primary imperitive is to purify ourselves, so that we can be a Light unto the world. For every person who enters the Kingdom (Consciousness) of God, serves as another anchor for that Consciousness, increasing it exponentially. That’s all I’m saying.


      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        My dear Kate, I will not spend my time “analyzing” your “righteously pacifistic” and
        hypocritical demagoguery, which brought America where she is now.

        The Leftists were very successful in their efforts to choke, strangle, suffocate (sorry for the language you might not like, but I used to work in Law Enforcement system – not in America) the truth and common sense by inventing and forcing PC thru legislations/rules/regulations/legal codes upon Conservatives and FREE Speech and thus suppressing and restraining the TRUTH and COMMON SENSE. They were in the TOTAL control. But now they are furious because the Conservatives said: ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and finally started push back.

        You are using Biblical sentences without understanding their meaning. I already explained you what is meaning Christ’s “Love your neighbor”. His “love” does not mean “be tolerant, indulgent and permissive”.

        What means “…turn the other cheek”
        A slap in the face was and IS among the most demeaning and contemptuous of acts. To strike someone elsewhere on the body might cause more physical harm, but a slap in the face was and IS an ATTACK ON one’s CONVICTION / INTEGRITY/ PRINCIPLES and regards as an humiliation/ shame/ indignity.
        It was to be TREATED WITH DISDAIN. Even a slave would rather have been stuck across the back with a whip than be slapped in the face by his master’s hand.
        So what Christ told his disciples and followers was: The wicked will mistreated you – ridicule, mock, held in contempt and make fun of you, but “DO NOT FEAR THEIR INTIMIDATION”

        “A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master. It is enough for a disciple that he be like his teacher, and a servant like his master. (Matthew)

        You wrote:
        “blasting people with words of hellfire and brimstone only turn people off”
        Please prove your statement.

        You wrote: “Christ was Absolute Truth. His wrath was borne of Love, like the wrath of a parent toward an errant child. He was never mean-spirited.”

        Christ’s wrath WAS NOT “borne of Love”.
        His wrath was grounded on the RIGHTEOUS ANGER toward “who practices evil/sin”.
        And parents do not use “WRATH” “toward an errant child”. They discipline/ punish/ castigate “an errant child”. If Parents will use their “WRATH” “toward an errant child”, the child definitely will be dead or invalid/disabled.
        “He who spares his rod hates his son, But he who loves him DISCIPLINES him promptly.” (Proverbs)

        “Do not withhold correction from a child, for if you beat him with a rod, he will not die.
        You shall beat him with a rod, and deliver his soul from hell.[b]” (Proverbs)

        Christ was, IS and ALWAYS be an Absolute God’s TRUTH.
        “Jesus Christ is the same YESTERDAY, TODAY, and FOREVER” (Hebrews 13:8)

        About “name-calling”.
        “LIBTARD” – This word comes from two words: Liberal and Retarded. I did not coin this term. But I do like this word. One word reflects two meanings: Ideology and Thoughts Condition/Mental Perversion.

        “DUNCE” – The word is derived from the name of the Scholastic theologian and philosopher John Duns Scotus, whose works on logic, theology and philosophy were accepted textbooks in the universities from the 14th century. The followers of Duns Scotus were called Duns/Dunsman
        The term DUNS or DUNCE was coined by opponents to the followers of Duns Scotus. But with time the term DUNCE became a synonym for one incapable of learning and is using in Philosophy.

        “STUPID”/ STUPIDITY is characteristic of the mental “quality” or state, which means: slow of mind; lack of intelligence; lack of capacity for reasoning or care.
        It may be caused by: Ignorance, Deliberate choice, Accident, A forced act.
        ALL terms are legal, but you are trying to censor them and rebrand them into the “L word”, “D word” and “S word”.

        Those are NOT a “name-calling”. Those are the descriptive theoretical “qualities”, characteristics, attributes, points of the mental condition and/or ideology.

        Kate, I find your criticism/judgment hypocritical.
        In your comments you are using such words as “Useful IDIOTS”; clueless troll; their STUPID laws; who are making STUPID statements; They are just STUPID.

        And I will finish with your response to Karolyn:
        “I don’t care what you think. I’ll CALL A SPADE A SPADE and not put a happy face on something just so I can feel good about it.”

        P.S. “Judge not, lest you be judged” and “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.”

        Kate, I respect you, your English is good (not like my, English – third language) but, please do not use terms and verses, which you do not understand, because it’s distortion of the TRUTH.

      • Kate8

        Alondra – I have readily admitted to using derogatory terms myself, so your assessment of hypocracy is valid. I have come to reassess much of that.

        I also find you just a bit arrogant, as you seem to think you are the final word on scriptural meaning. Your understanding may be a bit different from mine, and we can only respond from our own understanding. I have spend many hours in prayerful comtemplation, and trust what the Lord speaks to me. The time will come when the truth will be revealed.

        I’m sorry to have stirred up this can of worms with you. You are, obviously, a woman of great forcefulness. Force is not my way.

        I am well aware of the evils of our time, and have spoken of it often. It is getting worse every day. We have become so divided even among ourselves, so that we attack even those who are on our own side.

        Carry on, Alondra. You are a warrior. There is a time for war, a time to kill… and so the cycles go.

        I was once a warrior, too, but no more. My understanding of everything has changed…shifted. Remember, Christ is not of this world. This world is passing away…as all things pass away. Only Love is eternal.


        • Katrael

          Kate8 here are a few verses that come to mind about this name calling issue:
          Mat_3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
          Mat_12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
          Mat_23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
          Luk_3:7 Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? KJV

          And on the subject of wrath:
          Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years have ended, Satan shall be released from his prison,
          Rev 20:8 and he shall go out to lead the nations astray which are in the four corners of the earth, Goḡ and Maḡoḡ, to gather them together for battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea.
          Rev 20:9 And they came up over the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the set-apart ones and the beloved city. And fire came down from Elohim out of the heaven and consumed them.The Scriptures
          How’s that for love?

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Kate, Thanks for responding.
        I would like to address some points.
        1) “I have readily admitted to using derogatory terms myself”.
        Good. There is NOTHING wrong in using the “derogatory” terms. They are in our linguistic vocabulary. They are descriptive and useful. But we just have to know “when”, “how” and “whom” to say them. In some cases they are “derogatory”, in other cases they are descriptive/ revealing/ unmasking and bring to light hypocrisy, falsity, inaccuracy, misconception, fallacy.
        The word “STUPID” is NOT derogatory.
        Stupidity is produced by: 1) Ignorance; 2) Choice; 3) Forced act or Accident.
        We ALL are the “victims” of our own “STUPID” actions, which we performed accidently/unwillingly or by force by third party.
        And you were RIGHT then, when you said: “I don’t care what you think. I’ll CALL A SPADE A SPADE and not put a happy face on something just so I can feel good about it.”

        2) “Your understanding may be a bit different from mine, and we can only respond from our own understanding.”
        There should not be “your” or “my” understanding of the Biblical TRUTH. It’s not about “opinion” how to discipline child. It’s about knowledge. Please do not take it as arrogance. I am talking about knowledge. I have degree in Philosophy and Theology. Each my point I supported by the Biblical passage. But in College we also study the history and culture of the Biblical time Israel.
        The word “Philosophy” is the Greek word, which literally means “love of wisdom” = Philia/Love + Sophia/Wisdom. The female name Sophia/Sofia means “wisdom”.
        There are the false teaching about Biblical concepts of “Forgiveness”, “Anger”, “Love your neighbor”, “Render therefore to Caesar the things (Taxes) that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” (Matthew 22:21), which the preachers, who are preaching “social/economical” justice, totally distort Scripture.

        Joel Olson. Jim Wallis and others are WHO are pleasing “prince of the darkness” and not God;
        Whose “both their minds and consciences are corrupted. They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny Him” (Tit.1:15-16)

        “There will be false teachers among you, who will bring in damnable heresy, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their pernicious ways (evil teaching). And because of them THE WAY of TRUTH WILL BE SLANDERED. In their greed they will MAKE UP CLEVER LIES to get hold of your money. But they are condemned long time ago, and their destruction is on the way.” (2Peter 2:1)

        The false prophets/teachers/preachers/pastors are successful in their agenda because they know that people are lazy and do not read Scripture and follow their false teachings without questioning.
        To attract people to their “churches” they preach no sin (homosexuality, adultery, envy, laziness lie, pride, hypocrisy, etc.), repentance or judgment. They do not want to hurt churchgoers “feelings”. Joel Ostin and his wife Victoria, Benny Hinn and many others TV-evangelists are good example of such preachers.

        “…they are blind guides.[d] If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.” (Mat.15:14)

        3) “The time will come when the truth will be revealed”
        Kate, the TRUTH was revealed 2,000 years ago. Jesus Christ revealed it.
        1. Realize and accept that you are a sinner, because:
        “But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousness are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.” (Isaiah 64:6)
        “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.” (1John 1:8)
        “…as it is written: ‘There is none righteous, no, NOT ONE…” (Rom.3:10; Ps.14:3; 53:3)
        2. Repent.
        “Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” (Matthew 3:2; 4:17)
        “…repent and believe in the Gospel.” (Mark 1:15)
        “…unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.” (Luke 13:3)
        3. Confess Jesus Christ as your LORD and your Savior and completely put your trust in Him, obeying and follow His teachings.
        “Whosoever will confess Me before men, him will I confess also before My Father, which is in Heaven. But whosoever will deny Me before men, him will I also deny before My Father, which is in heaven.” (Matthew 10:32-33)
        “If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is LORD and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved … For the Scripture says: Whosoever believes in Him, shall not be ashamed.” (Romans 10:9-11)

        “In Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.” (Col.2:9)

        “But is now has been manifested by the appearing of our Savior Jesus Christ, who abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the Gospel.” (2Timothy 1:10)

        Kate, you know that Jesus was raised on the third day
        “For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ DIED FOR OUR SINS according to the Scriptures,4 and that He was buried, and that He ROSE AGAIN the third day according to the Scriptures” (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)

        We now in the THIRD God’s day:
        “But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with LORD as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” (2Peter 3:8)

        The response is too long, but I would like to end on the fun tune

        Man: God, is it true that Your 1 year is as 1000 of my years?
        GOD: Yes.
        Man: God, is it true that 1 million dollars for You are as one penny for me?
        GOD: Yes.
        Man: GOD, can You give me one Your penny?
        GOD: Yes, but you should wait one My year. Until then you have to work.

        God Bless You

        Maranatha! Come, Lord Jesus!

      • Kate8

        Alondra – I, too have spent many years studying scripture, and to say that there is only ONE meaning or way of understanding it doesn’t even make sense.

        You do know that scriptures are interpreted many ways by many men. Hence, we have many squabbling factions of Christianity (and Judaism, as well). So, which interpretation do you decide is the correct one?

        We find a group, a church… whatever, and we subscribe to the doctrine of that group. Every single one of them differs in how they perceive scripture, depending on which “enlightened” prophet they choose to follow.

        I have studied so many religions, philosophies and factions of Christianity, always coming to the same conclusion: ever single idea is someone else’s idea; someone who claims to have been touched by the Holy Spirit and given the REAL truth.

        So, one day in quiet desperation and discouragement (I have always had a passion for knowing the TRUTH, not someone else’s idea of truth), and plead that there could only be ONE that is true, or NONE are true. Here is what God said to me in that moment:


        All of the college education in the world is still only other men’s ideas. I refuse to accept truth from anywhere except from the TRUTH Himself. I prefer to always go straight to the Source. It took me a lifetime to come to the place where I hear and know His Voice, so there is nothing anyone could say that could make me doubt what He tells me.

        Our understanding of our Creator evolves over time, as we come to know Him intimately. That is the only thing that ever matters. No church has ever been able to hold me for more than a very short time. If things do not resonate within me, I move on. Now I no longer seek truth from churches or any groups. I just ask directly.

        I respect your position, Alondra. Go with what feels true to you. We all follow the path on which we are guided. I only attempt to encourage people to consider that they may not have as complete a notion of truth as they think… that there might be a greater picture at play than they believe.

        Godspeed on your journey, Alondra.

        • Katrael

          Kate8: Interpretations? Yes there are many interpretations of the Scriptures. However, the Tanak has been preserve very carefully over thousands of years. The process before mass printing was available was tedious and there were many strict rules about how to write new scrolls. My point: if you want to know what the Tanak (Old Testament) says you need to able to read the Hebrew itself. The vast majority of people don’t know how. There can only be one interpretation in spite of your wish to believe otherwise. The messages contained there were created to be understood by the common man of the age in which they were written.

          The Brit Chaudesha (New Testament) has many problems as there were no rules for the careful copying of these texts. Still, if you want to understand what is an accurate translation of these texts then you have to have a full understanding of the Tanak as if anything contradicts what is written there then the translation of the New is faulty. Yahoshua, Yohanan(John the Babtist) and the Taught Ones all got the information that they preached to the people from the Tanak. The Brit Chaudesha didn’t exist back in those days and Yahoshua(Jesus) said:

          Mat 5:17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Torah or the Prophets.1 I did not come to destroy but to complete. Footnote: 1The Law and the Prophets is a term used for the pre-Messianic Scriptures.
          Mat 5:18 “For truly, I say to you, till the heaven and the earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall by no means pass from the Torah till all be done.1 Footnote: 1Lk. 16:17.
          Mat 5:19 “Whoever, then, breaks one of the least of these commands, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the reign of the heavens; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the reign of the heavens.
          Mat 5:20 “For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees,1 you shall by no means enter into the reign of the heavens. Footnote: 1Mt. 15:3-9, Mk. 7:7-13, John 7:19, Acts 7:53, Rom. 2:23-27, Gal. 6:13. The Scriptures

          So how is it that there can be many meanings other than those that were intended to be understood by those seeking the truth. I understand that Yahoshua’s message was not to be understood by the vast majority of people he preached to in his day, but that was not the fault of Yahoshua or the Torah as it is the fault of the people listening to the message. They preferred to believe as you do that there can be many interpretations of the same message. You better learn to understand Torah.

    • eddie47d

      I get it Warrior and what you are advocating for. Mix the gangs within the same schools cause disruptions and more chaos then have more reason to label Chicago as a violent city . Yes there is always something behind your master plan too!

      • Bill

        Yes, Eddie, that would be a good solution to the gang problem. Just put them together and let them kill each other.

      • Karolyn

        Bill – There really is no such thing as a “bad” kid. If there were enough programs to educate these kids who live in ghettos that they can have a better life, there would be no gangs. Of course, as with so many, your only solution to a difficult problem is deat treating the aftermath and putting bandaids on bad situations.

      • old hillbilly

        Bill & me outnumber eddee – time to let them do what they do. Eddie can take all their guns & re-arm them with clubs & knives. dig a big trench, throw some money in it & let nature take its course – when its full, cover it & dig another until there’s peace in the valley

      • eddie47d

        Old Henry: Is that the traditional Conservative way or strictly your point of view?

      • Karolyn

        Unfortunately,there are far too many people in the world with the negative attitude of Bill and Old Hillbilly. Too many think death and destruction are the answers, when, in actuality, love is the only thing the world needs to overcome its ills.

      • jcfromdc

        Karolyn, you are so naive!!!! No such thing as a “bad kid”??? Are you BLIND????
        I have two nephews who have been GIVEN everything; lots of toys on birthday and Christmas, private “progressive” schooling, a nice, very nice home, better than I can afford for myself.
        They are the most disrespectful, ungrateful, disobedient, spiteful children i have ever known. They were plucked out of poverty as infants, before they knew what is is or was. They are 8 and 11 years old now. The 11 year old has a very high IQ, but was put back a year in school because of performance. The 8 year old robbed my wallet last Thanksgiving, was recently caught shoplifting, and is being tagged as the class bully in school. The parents, my brother and his lovely bride, are afraid they will “crush their spirit.” I personally would like to crush their bones.

        You blame poverty. I say, “Balderdash, rubbish, and poppycock!” My brother and I grew up borderline-poor. I am not some hoodlum and neither is he. My parents were kind but very firm. His two urchins will probably spend most of their adult life in and out of JAIL if current and continuing behavior is any indicator. They have NO concept of the consequences of bad behavior, thanks to their parents and “progressive” education, who treats them as “victims” and pins blame everywhere but where where it belongs… the parents and schools themselves. When there are no consequences for bad behavior, more bad behavior ensues.

        Poverty has NOTHING to do with it. The difference is that those with some means can “bail out” their kids, and yet it STILL will continue. I witnessed the EXACT same scenario with a neighbor’s kid growing up. It is killing me ot see it again. My nephews are the next Menendez Brothers.

      • Karolyn

        Obviously, it’s not the kids’ fault but their parents if they aren’t taught properly. However, we were speaking of gangs. We are all born knowing right from wrong, knowing how to live a good life. Unfortunately, we are corrupted by society and those around us.

      • Peter 10-nov-1775

        It is called quality control. It is also called late term abortion.

      • eddie47d

        That didn’t make any sense Peter. Are you saying JCFROMDC’s brother should have had his kids aborted or not of had any kids at all?

      • Katrael

        This reply is for Karolyn. You live in la la land the land of there are no bad people only the misunderstood and misguided. Well, you’re wrong as usual. The solution for any disease is quarantine. Put all of the homosexuals in their own cities determined by their birth sex, feed them only the minimum to sustain life and in just one generation they will be gone. As for the gang members? Do the same only give them 1/2 of what they need to live reducing the amount in proportion to their population and eventually they will disappear also.. I agree with what You Were Expecting What? had to say about gang control.

      • Karolyn

        Katrael – Let me guess…..You’re a good Christian, right? Laughable! If more people were as enterprising, creative and intelligent as gays, we’d be better off! I can name you several towns I know of that came back from the brink of ghetto because of gays buying property, opening businesses and raising property values. You seriously believe that if all gays currently here were gone, there would be no gays in one generation? You have got to be kidding! Most gays are born of heterosexual parents. The kids I know of with homosexual parents are all straight! And…they are wonderful, intelligent, spiritual people.

        • Katrael

          Karolyn, I’m not a christian I’m just on the same side of many of the morality issues that christians are. Sure a gay person may be talented and gifted in some ways, but they are anti species and they comprise less than 5% of the population and are therefore abnormal. If I were really a good christian I’d call for the death of every homosexual alive today. I don’t however. I say isolate them by birth sex, feed them for life and then they will die off leaving no offspring.
          There will always be gay people because sickness is part of our human condition. My point is that gay people who have sex with their own kind don’t have offspring. Two men having sex together won’t create children. I thought you were more intelligent than you seem to be? I don’t care at all that gays add to the economy they are a blight on humanity.

      • moonbeam

        jcfromdc – you said a mouthful there! These kids today are freaking animals. They have never learned there’s consequences for your actions. Disrespectful insolent liars is what many of them are today. A good ass whippin’ is what is needed. They work like vitamins and when correctly applied (put a sting to that ass they’ll never forget) you”ll never need Ritalin.

        When I was growing up, boy, you toed the line or paid the consequences. After I grew up I looked my dad in the face and said “THANK YOU!!!” and gave him a big kiss and hug. He just laughed and said “You’re welcome.” I’ve never been in trouble, arrested or jailed because my dad taught there are consequences to your actions.

        My own child, never caused me any trouble because I wasn’t taking any. Sure, she did the normal stuff teens do, thinking they’re slicker than oil, but never any problems. When she turned 13 I said “This day my foot is going up your ass. When you turn 18 I will pull it out.” When she turned 18 I pulled my foot out and put a shoe on it. I got tired of hopping around on one foot while the other was engaged elsewhere. She now has a college degree, runs her own business and has children of her own.

      • Karolyn

        katrael – Why do you care so much what other people do????????? It is not a sickness. What you spew is a sickness!

        • Katrael

          Karolyn, Homosexuality is most emphatically a sickness. It’s a disease that people like yourself wish to push onto the majority of the population. People like yourself try to spread this disease by insisting that we teach our children that this vile practice is normal because it exists. Cancer is normal also, but you won’t find people trying to say that we all aught to have it or that we should allow those who have it to keep it.
          Are you serious about your question that “Why do you care so much what other people do?????????” I care because what people do and don’t do has an effect on me and mine or don’t you understand that? Do you really think that each of us live in some kind of isolated bubble of space time where we can’t be affected by other people’s actions? You are either a homosexual yourself or know somebody who has conned you into accepting their vile practices as being good and normal.

          I’m not a christian but I do believe what the scriptures say about homosexuality.Lev_20:13 ‘And a man who lies with a male as he lies with a woman: both of them have done an abomination, they shall certainly be put to death, their blood is upon them.

      • Warrior

        Actually eddie, I’m attempting to reconcile why “forced busing” and “integration” was soo important 40 years ago. Wasn’t there fear of reprisals back then? Anyway, just let the inmates run the asylums. Take your pick, unions, politicians, kids with dim futures or all the above. It’s sad anyway you look at it but it doesn’t have to be this way. So, keep supporting the “blue team” and this IS the RESULT!

      • Karolyn

        Katrael – I have had many lesbian and gay friends; and they are some of the best people I’ve ever met! I like to point one who is a great guy, is Christian, AND conservative. Too bad our own PLD contributor, Chris, isn’t here this weekend to comment. I believe the best way to live is to “live and let live.” I don’t care what anybody does, as long as it doesn;t affect me personally; and if I had a homosexual couple living next door minding their own business, i could care less. Have you ever actually had a conversation with a gay person about their life? Who on earth would CHOOSE a life that includes ostracism, hate and all-around pain? Those who I have known knew they were different as children, and some tried the straight life, but it was a lie. Then there are those who finally realized who they really were after marrying and even having children. You must love the Westboro Baptist Church.

        • Katrael

          Karolyn, I had a brother who is now deceased who was gay. I’ve had several gay acquaintances through the years. I used to go camping and herb hunting along the river with a man who was gay and he used to talk about his preferences. These people understood how I felt about their evil preferences and that I could accept them as long as they weren’t engaging in this evil practice. I never felt threatened by the man I’d go camping with nor any of those whom I knew. They weren’t threatened by me. They understood how I felt though. Still it needs to be taught to young children that this is a vile practice not to be engaged in. We can’t change people and few of those who have this disease will ever change. They don’t have to practice what they feel. if they feel compelled to engage in deadly homosexual activities then they are no better than animals.
          I don’t have to love any organization that condones this activity. .

      • Karolyn

        PS Katrael – As far as the Bible goes, there are different interpretations I’ve found that use a different translation of the original language that say a different story. And, of course, there is also the fact that millions of people do not believe the Bible is the truth.

        • Katrael

          Karolyn, I can read the original Hebrew and it most emphatically states that those who engage in homosexual activities are to be killed when caught. Just thought you’d like to know. Lev 20:13 ואישׁH376 אשׁרH834 ישׁכבH7901 אתH854 זכרH2145 משׁכביH4904 אשׁהH802 תועבהH8441 עשׂוH6213 שׁניהםH8147 מותH4191 יומתוH4191 דמיהם׃H1818 I had trouble getting this to paste correctly but this is the Hebrew version of the verse I quoted the other day. the words are followed by a Strong’s Concordance number so you can look them up and know that what you are saying is false. You’ve been lied to.

          As far as other people believing the bible or not? This book is true and the words in it come from YHWH and he doesn’t care whether you believe them or not because in the end you will reap what you sow according to what’s written there. A fair warning has been given.

      • Karolyn
        • Katrael

          Karolyn, these gay christians are correct when they say there is no scriptural prohibition against female to female sex because females can not have sex in the sense of penetration with a sexual organ. Male homosexuality is strictly forbidden. You obviously didn’t do your homework on this and instead of relying on others for your information you should read the scriptures for yourself? Obviously you are afraid of what you’ll find there as it will undoubtedly condemn youe lifestyle and your deranged point of view. The website you sent me to only shows the confusion these poor deluded homosexuals live in. I read quite a bit of what was on the page you sent me to and will read more.

          Well, I did read the rest of the page and they show absolutely no proof that the scriptures condones gay marriage or homosexuality. .

          The scriptures most emphatically don’t condone polygamy as claimed in the website. In fact all instances mentioned in the scriptures indicate that polygamy leads to trouble and polygamy is not homosexuality,. The Scriptures only relate the stories about the people who engaged in polygamy and it doesn’t say anything about condoning the act.

          Jesus(a pagan name for the messiah) most emphatically condemns homosexuality please read this and understand: Mat 5:18 “For truly, I say to you, till the heaven and the earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall by no means pass from the Torah till all be done.1 Footnote: 1Lk. 16:17. In other words Yahoshua (the real name of the messiah) said that the full force of the Torah (the law) was in effect until the heaven and earth passes away. If the heaven and earth pass away there won’t be a mankind to commit homosexual acts so the law will no longer be needed. The heaven and earth won’t pass away.

          Apparently you didn’t bother to really read this page you sent me to as they show no proof of “gay Marriage” as it claims to do. You apparently are deluded.


      • sam1966

        Wrong, wrong, wrong Karolyn. A person who states about there being different interpretations of the Bible and the Constitution are just trying to twist it to fit their beliefs, not going by the the way it was written. This shows ignorance the warping the meaning behind them. You keep talking about the gays, but they are abominations in the eyes of God. There are many places where it says gays should be killed (Old Testiment) or tells how they play into the last days and being sent to hades (New Testiment). Here is something that shows how the 5th column, gays are part of this, are trying to use dictatorial powers over the people:

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        “That Book (THE BIBLE) is the book upon which this republic rests.”

        Andrew Jackson

    • Bud Tugly

      Alondra -

      I may share some of your political opinions, but your manners are inexcusable. It is great to disagree and debate positions, but it is not great to be so disagreeable.

      You say you are a naturalized citizen – welcome to the US – but did you leave your manners where you came from?

      One of the great glories of our wonderful country is that it was built on the compromises made between our founding fathers. They expressed their diverse opinions, weighed them, and concluded what was best for the common good.

      Intractable obstinacy solves nothing.

      Perhaps you may benefit from a nice chilled suppository.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Come back to this site when you mature emotionally or when you actually turn into a male.Alondra says things as they are, if you don’t like her don’t read her comments.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Bud Tugly:
        “I may share some of your political opinions, but your manners are inexcusable.”
        Oh, REALLY?! I’m doubt you share “some” of my political opinions. And more – I am sure you share NONE of my political opinions.

        My “manners” are NOT Politically Correct. PC is an invention of the Luciferian Alinsky’s Liberals. And what you really find in my “manners” inexcusable – it’s the exposure of the Libtards’ LIES, DECEPTIONS, DISTORTIONS of the REALITY and the FACTS and mental PERVERSIONS and sexual DEPRAVITY.

        BT: “It is great to disagree and debate positions, but it is not great to be so disagreeable.”

        What a contradictory Libtardic crap. “It is great to disagree” but “it is not great to be so disagreeable.”

        By “shaming” me you are attempting to suffocate my conviction. Do NOT try, because I am going to bite.

        BT: “You say you are a naturalized citizen – welcome to the US – but did you leave your manners where you came from?”

        Yes, I am very PROUD naturalized citizen a.k.a. PROUD American, contrary to you. I came here and was accepted as a whole package – with my heart, soul, spirit and convictions. And I do NOT need YOUR welcome. For me is more than enough God’s welcome.

        You, Leftists are welcoming illegal immigrants, because you desperately need ILLEGAL voters.

        BTW, my “manners” and EDUCATION incomparable with the Libtards’ wicked manners and worthless and useless PUBLIC education, which is not an education, but INDOCTRINATION.

        BT: “One of the great glories of our wonderful country is that it was built on the compromises made between our founding fathers.”

        Oh, REALLY?! Now you are talking about FOUNDING FATHERS.
        You Libtards distorted ALL facts of American history; you made godly FOUNDING FATHERS godless; you are distorting, twisting and contemptuously ignoring CONSTITUTION – the LAW of Land; You are desecrating Old Glory – the Flag of the USA by spewing and stepping on It. For you it’s just a piece of cloth, which means NOTHING.

        What incredible HYPOCRISY!!!

        “Those who don’t know history are destined to repeat it.” – Edmund Burke

        BT: “Intractable obstinacy solves nothing. Perhaps you may benefit from a nice chilled suppository.”

        I even did NOT try to solve “something”. You MUST to take GOOD shower to wash out your disgust HYPOCRISY.

        “Woe to those who CALL EVIL GOOD, AND GOOD EVIL; Who put DARKNESS FOR LIGHT, AND LIGHT FOR DARKNESS; Who put BITTER FOR SWEET, AND SWEET FOR BITTER! Woe to those, WHO ARE WISE IN THEIR OWN EYES, and prudent in their OWN SIGHT!” (Isaiah 5:20-21)

        “Wickedness proceeds from the wicked.” (I Samuel 24:13)

        THERE IS NO NEUTRALITY between GOOD and evil and should not be.

        “Between good and evil there is no reconciliation.” – Alexander Soljenitsen

        “All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.” – Edmund Burke

        “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”

        “We have been silent witnesses of evil deeds.” – Dietrich Bonhoeffer

        “(T)he foundation of our national policy will be laid in the pure and immutable PRINCIPLES OF PRIVATE MORALITY; … the propitious smiles of Heaven can NEVER be expected on a NATION THAT DISREGARDS THE ETERNAL RULES OF ORDER AND RIGHT, WHICH HEAVEN ITSELF HAS ORDAINED…” – George Washington, First Inaugural, April 30 1789

        Libtard, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson for you is – never try again, at least on this site.

        Alondra, Proud Naturalized American, Un-Apologetic Christian Bigot, the Tea Party Lover (in any sense), definite Homophobe & Islamophobe, PC snubber and Hater and Fighter of the VOLUNTARY Stupidity

        P.S. Next time blame the guy who can’t speak English.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Nadzieja, Thanks “comrade”. :)

        Be calm. The Libtard just doing his job: trying to strangulate the knowledge and suffocate the precious TRUTH

        “If you really want something in life you have to work for it.” – Homer Simpson

        P.S. Unfortunately “The penalty GOOD MEN pay for indifference to public affairs is to be RULED BY EVIL MEN.” – Plato

        Alondra (my short signature)

      • sam1966

        Yes, they founded us as a Christian nation. Here is what will happen across the nation as we get to be more and more the ways of Obama bin Laden:

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “Hold fast to the Bible. To the influence of this Book we are indebted for all the progress made in true civilization and to this we must look as our guide in the future.”

        Ulysses S. Grant

        • Frank Kahn

          I tried to go to that link but keep getting a page not found error.

          • sam1966

            UH oh! Well then, here is something showing how Pelosi wants Obama bin Laden to use the Constitution to bypass Congress:


            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

            “Real change can only happen when we commit ourselves to rebuilding civil society in America, meaning a society based on family, religion (Christianity), civic and social institutions, and peaceful cooperation through markets. We cannot reverse decades of moral and intellectual decline by snapping our fingers and passing laws.”

            Ron Paul

    • Bill

      I like your self description

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Thanks Bill for comprehension and support. I appreciate it very much. 

  • http://personalliberty Alondra

    Dear Freedom and Wisdom loving thoughtful and logical Americans,

    Last week I provided you with the list of the wicked, corrupt, mentally pervert and morally depraved parasites whom you should to CLAIM as “dependents” in your 1040 Tax form for 2012.

    But I unforgivably forgot to include:
    The CRAZY Joe (“a big f**king deal!”)
    The PROSTITUTION Service for the U.S. Secret Service Agents
    Planned Parenthood – the leader in INFANTICIDE (this year you paid them $542 million for 333,964 abortions)

    • eddie47d

      “Wisdom loving thoughtful and logical Americans”. That certainly leaves you out Alondra for you are hardly loving always thoughtless and even more hateful and illogical. I know your name has to be on your own list for being “wicked,corrupt,morally perverted and morally depraved parasite”. We could add several other names in describing your mental capabilities and none too kindly! For starters I could just borrow more of your own words because you are F* CRAZY,a PROSTITUTE for the devil and a prime candidate for INFANTICIDE! Maybe we can talk later Ms Whack Job please say hello to your sister the Wicked Witch of the North! I do see the striking resemblance!!

      • You Were Expecting What?

        Eddy Boy, it’s clear yo’ momma threw away the baby and raised the afterbirth.

      • Bill

        Whoh, don’t get your panties in a twist, Eddie
        Did you get in a fight with your boyfriend? Are you having a bad day? Just take a prosac and mellow out

      • eddie47d

        I don’t Expect anything different on Saturday and I’m never disappointed. I see you have a fetish for creepy comments yourself as with several others.

      • hipshotpercusion

        Talk about hate. Wasn’t it the Prince of Peace who said…”you would notice the mote in your brothers/sisters eye but ignore the beam in your own.”

      • eddie47d

        That’s my whole point Hipshotpercusion and always has been. If commenter’s want to be nasty about anything then they get nasty back and Alondra is today’s queen of mean! I’m seeing if anyone will stand down or become just as mean and so far “mean” wins.

      • old hillbilly

        The serpent speaks with a hiss and a lissssp – I’ll bet he knows where Hoffa went.

      • eddie47d

        He’s probably buried in your backyard Old Hillbilly! You said earlier you know how to get rid of “problems”.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        eddie47d(onkey) a.k.a. Ass, a.k.a. SPECIES E. Africanus, SUBSPECIES E. a. Asinus, Phylum Chordata, CLASS Mammalia, ORDER Perissodactyla, FAMILY Equidae, GENUS Equus, SUBGENUS Asinus,

        I think you missed my reply to your childishly ridiculous, cheap and senseless barking, so I am reposting it again to your information, which you freely can add to your file.

        eddie47d(onkey) a.k.a. Ass, on December 29, 2012 at 3:19 pm you wrote:

        “There is NOTHING that is “highly educated” or informed about you Alondra. I’ll give you a choice: are you a Pit Bull or a Barracuda or just a plain old useless excuse?”

        eddie47d(onkey) a.k.a. Ass, That was the highest point of your “intelligence”.

        Here you have my reply, which I’m sure you missed:

        Alondra says: December 31, 2012 at 5:13 pm
        eddie47d(onkey), I do NOT “give you a choice”, because there is no choice in the definite certainty.
        You, eddie47d(onkey) and Karolyn, both, are like a yappy Chihuahuas with a sourly bitter snippy barking, which is nothing more, but highly MISERABLE and pathetical, totally incoherent nonsense.
        You both have not a plain or flavored excuse for your stupidity.
        “STUPID IS AS STUPID TALKS” – you proved it multitude times.

        eddie47d(onkey),To be ignorant means not knowing, to be stupid means REFUSING to know. Neither is good. Happy New Year, eddie47d(onkey). I wish you to WISE UP.

        P.S. eddie47d(onkey) a.k.a. Ass, you definitely aren’t the German Shepard nor a Pit Bull.
        You even aren’t a Chihuahua. I am sincerely sorry that I insulted Chihuahua. You are a dickheaded Mongrel – mixed breed of STUPIDITY, BANALITY, ABSURDITY, MEANINGLESSNESS, MINDLESSNESS, CHILDISHNESS, FOOLISHNESS, IDIOCY, IMMATURITY, SILLINESS, RIDICULOUSNESS, SENSELESSNESS

        eddie47d(onkey) a.k.a. Ass, stop your sourly bitter snippy barking. Go to kennel club for an education.

      • Karolyn

        Tit for tat.

      • jcfromdc

        The Witch of the North was the the GOOD one, dear.

      • eddie47d

        No Alondra I don’t miss too much around here and yes I heard your December spiel. Do you keep all your “flattering” remarks on file so you can remind yourself what a foul mouthed trollop you are? I bet you have reams of BS piled up in the backyard storage shed or is that where you hide the bodies!

      • Katrael

        Tsk tsk Eddie, you need your mouth was out with soap.

      • Bill

        Go Getum, Alondra
        Take no prisoners

      • sam1966

        Alondra, d’oh! :-) :-) :-) Keep up the pressure as Ed is beginning to crack. We have all done it before and Ed always breaks apart. I do agee somewhat with what they are saying about the bad language, but it is your God-given right to freely speak. So, speak away. Here is something about insurance rates going up due to Obama bin Laden Care:

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “I must beg you to read that Psalm. Read the Thiry Fifth Psalm to your friends. Read it to your father.”

        John Adams
        A letter to Abigail Adams

    • Bill

      You forgot the liberal posters on this site because they want us to carry their load for them.

      • e

        Like you Bill she’s just looking for bodies to bury, aka “those getting in your way”.

      • sam1966

        Hey e, why don’t you look at this? This shows how the 5th column is seeking to get rid of the 22nd Amendment:

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “Power always thinks…that it is doing God’s service when it is violating all of His laws.”

        John Adams

  • nobodysfool

    eddie47, I see you escaped the nurse again before she was able to medicate you. How many times do I have to tell you, the meds are helpful to you. Quit trying to avoid them.

    • eddie47d

      Who are you trying to fool, fool? It’s not too late to lock you up in the same ward as Alondra! She was a heck of a good looking nurse too . I should have let her catch me! LOL!

      • tony newbill

        Bring Clarity to the conflicts of truth about the state of Food Inflation on the Average Income earners

      • Bill

        So now you are into putting women down. You really did have a fight with your boyfriend

      • Karolyn

        Bill – Have you read Alondra’s comments? I do not believe she has posted one without including insults. I guess for some people, that’s the only way they know, and, personally, I feel sorry for them. Anybody who cannot get their point acrosss without denigrating or insulting others and being rude and crass has a communication problem.

      • eddie47d

        Admiring good looking nurses or any woman is hardly “putting woman down” Bill or didn’t you like my humor? Remember Alondra is the Wicked Witch of the North so she doesn’t count! LOL! Now don’t you worry your pretty little head off Bill for Alondra will be back with a vengeance and she’ll be twice as mean!

      • Bill

        All of your buddies have ben posting rude comments ever since they have been on this site.

        So why all of a sudden are you preaching civility

      • Karolyn

        Bill,I have always “preached” civility. I have never been a confrontational person, preferring the high road to arguments that lead nowhere, and unless SEVERELY provoked, never fly off the handle and speak the way so many post here.

  • http://midcontent ridge runner

    Did your momma put too much sugar in your MSG sugar teat this morrning, before sending you out to play on the interstate. Or did she let you out of your holding pen, to spray you and your pen down to kill your cooties? Get a tight haircut and shave while loose.

    • eddie47d

      Ridge Runner; Were you peeking in my window again while I was taking my morning shower. You naughty little pervert! Can you scope out more houses and children’s playgrounds while you are up on the “ridge’?

      • Opal the Gem

        I see eddie is in his usual “fine” form today. Three posts and nothing but insults to other posters.

      • eddie47d

        Contraire Opal and strictly responses to others who have thrown out their insults. I didn’t think you’d be smart enough to notice that either! So please tell me Opal was Alondra’s post copasetic to you and agreeable? Was Nobody’s Fool ‘s fine with you? Was Ridge Runner’s something you would have said? Now if you want to talk smack then don’t expect anything less from others. Oh I forgot I have listened to your insults before so no need to answer.

  • http://midcontent ridge runner

    Eddy actually it was Omoron’s security group that stated, you were the missing shower buddy of Obozo, the other 3 “good buddies” that expired in a month before he announced his run as his planned dictatorship run. As for being up on the ridge, we all need to get another gun before you socialist/marxist try to get our firearms.

    • eddie47d

      Never went missing Ridge Runner but after reading Alondra’s comment and others I know some of you have lost your minds. I’ll check the classifieds and see if anyone has found them!

  • dan

    …still cracking me up, Ben.Don’t ever change a thing…why mess with perfection.
    LMAO…I like jelly -beans,too!

    • http://none pissed of conservative

      i loved it when he laughs like a witch..who was the lady he was calling the witch??

      • sam1966

        Take you pick of Hitlery, Nancy, Barbara, Dianne, Maxine, Michelle, etc. There are so many to name that it would be my longest post yet. Here is something on how our governemnt has overlooked the Hyde Amendment and is illegally giving money to fund abortions in this country:

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “We have appointed a continental fast. Millions will be on their knees at once before their great Creator, imploring His forgiveness and blessing His smiles on American counsils and arms.”

        John Adams

  • Gordon

    Just couldn’t waste the time to read all the Eddie trash and the replies. Bye Bye

    • eddie47d

      Did the truth hurt Gordon or is it that you can’t stand someone challenging Alondra’s trash talk? If she is a spokesperson for Conservatism then you all are in big trouble. Remember my previous comments are strictly REPLIES and if those nasty comments weren’t said I probably would find something better to do today Since you won’t be back have a nice day. Bye Bye!

      • Opal the Gem

        “…you can’t stand someone challenging Alondra’s trash talk? ”

        eddie you have not shown you have the mental capacity to actual challenge her. All you have done today is throw insults and make snarky remarks with no attempt at having a discussion. You put out no effort to dispute and SHOW she or any other poster was wrong.

      • eddie47d

        Agreed Opal ! They are snarky remarks and I’m waiting for someone ANYONE to make an intelligent comment that can be rationally discussed and that (at least so far) leaves everyone out, (except Karolyn) Today at 10:47am I’ll put everyone in the Idiot Brigade (including myself). Now does anyone have anything important to say?

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Oral the Gem, eddie47d(onkey) is furious because he did NOT liked his scientific name I gave him last weekend.
        I am re-posting it. Here it is:
         Alondra says: January 6, 2013 at 12:54 pm
        Average Joe, on December 2, 2012 eddie47d(onkey) expressed his discontent that I branded him a d(onkey), but honestly, I did NOT want to insult him in any way. I just thought that the “d” in his name states for “democrat” and as we know their emblem/symbol is “donkey aka ASS”.

        Here is eddie47d(onkey) complain (December 2, 2012 at 12:45 pm):
        “When you head straight to the name calling “donkey” your shallowness is front and center. Making a phony claim that “stealing is not winning” shows your Revengeful spirit and that you are willing to lie to console your loss.”

        Well, we all know that the Donkeys’ behavior has a notorious reputation for STUBBORNNESS, because the stubbornness gives them a much stronger sense of “self-importance/significance/ meaning/ weight/ worth” and “self- support “.
        So I am proposing from now on to use a scientific name for him to relieve his melancholic despair and to reinforce his broken self-esteem.

        Here is how this idea illuminated in me:
        Elephant met up with an Ass.
        “Hello there, Ass!” Elephant greeted Ass.
        “Hello,” the Ass replied rather stiffly. “I am happy to see you. But, however, I would like to ask you: PLEASE do not call me an Ass from now on”
        Elephant get PUZZLED and asked the Ass: “HAVE YOU STOPPED BEING ONE?”
        “Well, in a CERTAIN SENSE, yes,” the Ass replied.
        “You see, the word “ASS” IS A SYMBOL OF STUPIDITY, so I have been given a scientific name.”
        The Elephant wondered: “A SCIENTIFIC NAME? What name are you referring, Ass?”
        “A scientific one”, the Ass repeated and right away explained it:
        “SPECIES E. Africanus, SUBSPECIES E. a. Asinus, Phylum Chordata, CLASS Mammalia, ORDER Perissodactyla, FAMILY Equidae, GENUS Equus, SUBGENUS Asinus.”


        (Russian Fable “What is in a name?” modified and adjusted by me)

        Average Joe, did your opinion changed about eddie47d(onkey) and the rest of ASSes?

        Just wondering.
        Oral the Gem, as you can see the eddie47d(onkey)’s spirit is very Revengeful and his personality is childishly capricious and whining. It is in response of his low self-esteem and insecurity.

        He wants to back me into a corner or squash against the wall, but I am a piece of work. He can’t bite me, because I have my teeth.
        Read my next post. It describes eddie47d (onkey) behavior thru another Fable.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Oral the Gem, you said; “eddie you have not shown you have the mental capacity to actual challenge her. All you have done today is throw insults and make snarky remarks with no attempt at having a discussion. You put out no effort to dispute and SHOW she or any other poster was wrong.”

        Oral, you are correct, eddie47d(onkey) does NOT HAVE the MENTAL CAPACITY to challenge anyone. He is just the sheeple who mentally fully related to the O’Homobama flock WITHOUT CRITICAL ANALYSIS OR RESEARCH. They undermine their own individuality and willingly give up their rights. Look at all the sheeple. They have exactly the same prescribed opinions, views, using the same talking points, mantras, labels.

        When person can’t articulate HIS idea, present the FACTS and defend the FACTS without lies and distortions, so what he does? Makes “snarky remarks” and calling the truth “hate” and “insult”.


        Well, here is another fable, which describes the eddie47d(onkey) and alike behavior:

        Along the streets Big Elephant was led … A crowd of gapers followed on his heels.
        All of a sudden Pug springs up in front of them. And seeing Elephant, he raises a great disturbance and BROUHAHA. He lunges, barks and hollers and does it best to pick a quarrel and a fight.

        “Hey neighbor, stop your fussy noise. You deal with Elephant” – a Mutt intones.

        “Look at you barking yourself hoarse. The Elephant just promenades and DOESN’T CARE ONE BIT ABOUT YOUR NOISE.”

        “Ho ho!” Pug says, “THAT’S JUST WHAT I ENJOY, since I can’t be a REAL TOUGH GUY … THAT WAY, the other Libtards will say: ‘To bark at Elephant this Pug must be a real strong mug!’”

        (Russian Fable modified and adjusted by me)

        Oral the Gem, did you recognize eddie47d(onkey) in Pug?

        Just wondering.

        P.S. Of cause for eddie47d(onkey) a.k.a. Ass (sorry, the scientific name is too long) and Draculett Karolyn it’s a “hate” speech.

      • Frank Kahn

        Please provide us with a link to the thread where you did not instigate the trash talk. I do not agree with Alondra’s method of pushing her point, but I dont disagree with her point. You on the other hand are just as single minded and abusive in your personal attacks as she is while having no discernible credibility in your logic.

      • eddie47d

        Alondra; Why do you lie so much? “shallowness is very front and center” as you say so why troll for attention. Someday you’ll grasp that you practice exactly what you preach to others. You insult folks upfront – I wait until they insult me or what I believe in and then let them have it. In other words you seldom think before you speak! You are over educated and arrogant!

        • Frank Kahn

          I dont know, Eddie, maybe I am just feeling like picking on you today. Here is your post to Alandra

          “Alondra; Why do you lie so much? “shallowness is very front and center” as you say so why troll for attention.”

          Why do you assume she is lying, and it would appear that you also troll for attention here.

          “Someday you’ll grasp that you practice exactly what you preach to others.”

          A little grammar police action here. You are mixing your metaphor here. Did you mean “you SHOULD practice what you preach”, or “you practice what you ACCUSE OTHERS OF DOING”?

          ” You insult folks upfront –”

          proof by bald assertion, no evidence is given to support that Alandra insults people before they exhibit their own tendancy to insult first. If, however, you mean that she uses the descriptive adjectives in her statement before her facts and reasons, then I agree. Would you prefer if she waited to the end of the post to use them?

          “I wait until they insult me or what I believe in and then let them have it.”

          I must be very careful here to avoid a proof by bald assertion. There are two parts to the statement that are not congruent. You make two statements as if they are the same which is not true.
          The first statement “I wait until they insult me” is a lie, that makes you a liar. There are many examples of you replying to a poster with unsupported personal attacks before they have insulted you personally.
          The second statement “I wait until they insult what I believe in” is a subjective perception. If I say that banning assault weapons wont solve the mass murder problem, which you disagree with, it is not insulting your belief. If I say all people that want to ban the, so called, assault weapons are idiots, then I am insulting you and your belief. Because of the difference in the two, you are also a liar here. There are also numerous examples of you doing personal attacks on someones intelligence because they have an opposing opinion to you.

          ” In other words you seldom think before you speak!”

          Whoa, these next two are real knee slappers

          “in other words” would imply that somewhere, earlier in this post, you made some statements that could be interpreted as having similar meaning. Would you be so kind as to point out that occurrence. Leaving out the fact that speaking is a function of the brain (thinking), this is also proof by bald assertion. In fact, much of what she said shows that some form of thought was given to her choice of words.

          “You are over educated and arrogant!”

          Lets accept that the way she says things shows some arrogance, okay with that said, I hope you can clear up the rest of this strange sentence.

          “over educated”? Maybe you can explain your definition of over educating ones self. Is it like a drug, and you fall into an induced stupor, or do you have withdrawals when you stop studying? Is she OVER educated because she is MORE educated than you? Does TOO MUCH EDUCATION make you STUPID or IGNORANT? Does getting too much EDUCATION make it impossible for you to UNDERSTAND LOGIC? Is too much EDUCATION a problem for you? Or, were you actually trying to give her a back handed compliment?

          Now, I understand that you sometimes feel insulted because someone disagrees with you but, the only personal attack I made on you is when I pointed out that you were lying about something in your post. I gave reasons for my conclusion, but not examples, if you want some examples I will find them and post a link for you.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        eddie47d @January 13, 2013 at 2:07 pm

        eddie47d(onkey), at least once prove my “lie”.

        “You insult folks”. – Please name “folks” I insulted. Only you and your “twin” Karolyn are complaining without any prove.

        “you seldom think before you speak!” – I am thinking after reading your comment and before my reply.

        “You are over educated and arrogant!” – Sorry, eddie, but I am disagree with your protest. The exposure of the lies and boloney isn’t “arrogance”. And I am confuse how I should react to your complain about my EDUCATION – Is it compliment or a Liberal war on “Education”?

        eddie47d(onkey), are you having a crash on me? Just tell me, and stop post your incoherent and contradictory stupidities.

        P.S. Eddie, please stop to lie, to vest the space and time and I’m agree to withdraw the “donkey” part from your name.

        Think about. Shaw your Liberal “compromise” and I’ll stop to post Russian fables.

        Alondra, Proud Naturalized American, Un-Apologetic Christian Bigot, the Tea Party Lover (in any sense), definite Homophobe & Islamophobe, PC snubber and Hater and Fighter of the VOLUNTARY Stupidity

        • Frank Kahn

          Is it true that Russia is the mother of all Elephants?

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Frank: “Is it true that Russia is the mother of all Elephants?”

        Yes, Russia is the mother of the fables’ Elephants and the real beautiful Siberian tiger and different kinds of bears.

        The mother land for Elephants are Africa and Asia.

        • Frank Kahn

          I am pleased that you affirmed that correctly.

          I have a friend who immigrated from Russia who made that statement to me. I chastised her for stating something that was not true unless she meant there were wooly mammoths or something in Russia. She explained the meaning of it to me after I finished. She is not really a Russian, her father was a Polish Jew so they did not allow her to claim being a Russian. It didnt really matter since she was born in Kiev, which is not in Russia to start with.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Frank, I am not Russian. I am 50/50 (Spaniard & Belorussian).

        Now Belarus is independent country, but it was one of the 15 Soviet Union’s Republic.
        Belarus has borders with Ukraine & Poland. I was in both countries. I still have friends in Belarus and here in America in NYC lives my childhood friend from Belarus.

        • Frank Kahn

          okay, Belarus, since bela sounds like Latin Bella I thought the name meant Beautiful Russia but it actually means White so is it White Russia? If so, is it white because it’s citizens are from the Caucasus Mountains? I just finished reading up on it and that is not the reason, appears that there are many theories as to the reason it is called white. I also noted that Belarus people dont necessarily like being called white Russian because it is somewhat incorrect.

  • BR549

    Ben, you’re so irreverent. I love it.

  • http://midcontent ridge runner

    Eddy, you never were missing, yes we all forgot Michelle never travel with jug ears anywhere, even over to pedophile worshipping, rug shagging countries, since jug ears always need a ball shagger on the pasture pool range.

    • eddie47d

      Case in point! You need more proof Opal than Ridge Runner?

  • dunce

    That is a great picture of clinton staring deep into monicas mouth. What was he thinking?

  • Dubi

    Karolyn says:

    January 12, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Bill – There really is no such thing as a “bad” kid. If there were enough programs to educate these kids who live in ghettos that they can have a better life, there would be no gangs.

    Karolyn says its a ghetto problem, God says its a heart problem!
    “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?”
    (Jeremiah 17:9)
    More programs are not needed, knowing and following Jesus Chfrist are!

    • Karolyn

      Duh, Dubi, I’m including spiritual programs in the mix, whether Biblically based or not. Caring dedicated people are what’s needed. I’ve seen shows about some of the programs for kids on the street and in some schools that really make a difference. if more people cared and weren’t so wrapped up in their own little worlds, there would not be as many problems with kids.

      • Dubi

        Karolyne, watch the video and you will see a part of the problem and no amount of programs or so called religeous programs are going to rectify it.

        Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
        Romans 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
        Romans 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

        Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
        Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

        Every baby born is born with a sin nature and the cure isn’t more programs or religion, the cure is a new nature, a heart transplant that happens when we acknowledge we are sinners in need of a saviour, repent and ask Christ to take charge of our life!

      • Dubi

        Forgot to add this at the end of last post:
        Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

        • BR549

          Dubi wrote: “Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death …”

          Wow, I didn’t know we were discussing Mr. New World Order, Bush Sr., Bubba Clinton, Bush’s retarded progeny Dubya, and the Liar in Chief, Obama. All in one fell swoop.

    • Motov

      It’s the whole ghetto thing, Starting with the attitudes. They live in their nasty habitat because they made it a nasty habitat. If they cleaned up their mess it would reflect better in their neighborhoods. If they took responsibility for their lives instead of relying on others to do it for them, the picture would look much different. The kids run around in gangs instead of learning the value of team work that benefits and not destroy whatever they can get their hands on. Until they realize it is up to them to pull their weight and do something useful, and have the willingness to carry that out, all the money in the world won’t help them. Like an alcoholic, until he see’s that he is the problem, he cannot get well. Once they admit to themselves, then a 12 step type program can work wonders.

      • Karolyn

        The point is early education! That is the ONLY answer. Rather than spending money on bandaids later on.

      • Bill

        The answer is to boost their self esteem through a great job. But you will not have that with the liberals failed economic policies. In fact you are creating dependency by promoteing poverty over prosperty and providing another govt agency that blames their problems on someone else.

        As long as poverty prevails, it is much more easy for make their living selling drugs and get their self esteem from being the baddest dog in the dog pack

        • Motov

          The real answer is first they have to recognize their lifestyle is causing their misery.
          The second step is to become willing to change, then you have something to work with.
          Otherwise it will be just like pulling a pig out of the muck, clean it up, then setting it free,
          it will make a beeline for the muck.

  • Motov

    Excellent job Mr Crystal, as usual, Keep up the wonderful work.

  • chuckb

    karolyn, you don’t take into the equation, there are no bad kids, i disagree, some are born bad and only god could make them different. a lot of these ghetto kids are born from drug mothers, they have mental problems and they roam the streets in gangs,

    • Karolyn

      Nobody is born bad, and everybody has a chance given the right tools and opportunity. There are just not enough programs and opportunity. You cannot blame the kids really. However, occasionally, one will break out and climb the ladder.

      • chuckb

        karolyn, these drug babies are not able to function as normal kids, there are no cures and we have cities full of them. they will kill you without hesitation or remorse.

      • Karolyn

        chuck – I think you need to do a little research and be educated before commenting.

      • Frank Kahn

        In one of your earlier posts you stated the cause of the problem correctly. But then you went off on a liberal tangent. Yes the problem lies in their early childhood development. It is there that their GANG mentality is formed. The cause of this is the PARENTS. The solution is the PARENTS. Social behavior is controlled by beliefs, and beliefs are ingrained into a persons psyche from a very early stage in life. To change a belief takes a very long time and the original belief CANNOT be REINFORCED while the change takes place. Since the GANG MENTALITY is a product of their family life, your programs (ran and paid for by US) aimed at changing them would require that they be totally removed from their environment. The cost of such an undertaking would be monumental. It would be more effective to either re-program the parents, or put in place some form of preventative system for procreation. Since none of the possible solutions, that might actually work, are socially acceptable, we have no solutions available to us.

        I do object to you using the ghetto as your backdrop for this condition. Unless you are suggesting that all poor people that fall victim to the GANG MENTALITY live in ghettos then you are being racially biased.

        It is, correctly, identified as a “something for nothing (legal)” mentality. It is a lack of pride of true accomplishment problem. It is a lack of parental cohesiveness problem. It is a MIGHT is RIGHT mentality problem. It is a YOU OWE ME attitude problem. It is a DO AS I DO parental role model that is BROKEN problem.

        Opportunities are there for the taking, they however are earned not given for free. If you give something for free, you reward the LAZY GANG MENTALITY. This is true across all racial and ethnic boundaries. If a poor person wants my help to improve his / her situation, I will offer them a job so they can WORK to improve it. This gives them self esteem as well as a better life.

      • Karolyn

        There are private inner city programss that do work. The problem is too few and far between. Not enough support financially and physically.

      • Vicki

        Karolyn says:
        “Nobody is born bad, and everybody has a chance given the right tools and opportunity. There are just not enough programs and opportunity.”

        So how did we manage to survive in the past when there were far fewer programs and opportunity.

        Oh wait. There were programs. Churches and community centers had lots of them. Opportunities. Children were allowed to work and to learn good working skills in the age range you suggested earlier in this thread.

        Then the progressives came.

        • Motov

          Don’t forget the self help groups like AA NA CA Etc. 12 Step programs work if the person makes it work. You must be committed otherwise you are going to continue down the path of destruction.

  • chuckb

    karolyn, the liberal society doesn’t like to place blame on drugs because so many are users themselves.
    llegal Drugs and Pregnancy
    If you abuse drugs, you are taking a chance with your health and the health of your baby. Babies born to mothers using street drugs often are born smaller and too early. And they tend to have behavioral problems such as hyperactivity.

    Marijuana — To get the full effect of marijuana, smokers inhale deeply and hold
    the smoke in the lungs as long as possible. There are many harmful gases in the smoke that are passed along to the baby. Marijuana may slow the baby’s growth. After the baby is born, breathing marijuana smoke can make the baby sick. The baby can have breathing problems and catch colds and other illnesses more easily than other children can.
    Cocaine/Crack — Cocaine can cause many problems for your baby before and after
    birth. There is a higher risk of miscarriage and stillbirth. Babies born to women who
    abuse cocaine may be difficult to comfort and have feeding problems. They can
    require special care. Sometimes, they can have blood circulation problems and brain damage. Long-term behavioral problems may also result from use of this drug.
    Heroin — If you are a heroin addict, your baby probably will be born addicted and will
    need special care and medicine as he or she goes through withdrawal. If you use heroin, your baby is at higher risk for premature birth and poor growth.

    Other street drugs such as speed (amphetamines), LSD, hashish, uppers, and downers also can cause problems with your baby’s growth and health. Mothers with addiction problems may not have good nutrition and health care, causing more problems for their babies..

    i would suggest you take your own advise and educate yourself, the ghetto gabgs are made up by a lot of these so called crack babies and if you think for one minute they can be reeducated, think again. the liberal mindset doesn’t want to face the facts.
    the occupant in the white house may be a prime example.

    • Vicki

      chuckb says:
      “karolyn, the liberal society doesn’t like to place blame on drugs because so many are users themselves.”

      I don’t know why they have any problem blaming drugs. They have no problem blaming guns. And at least drugs have known abilities to disrupt moral thinking patterns.

  • Karolyn

    Geez, chuck, of course I know drugs harm babies; however, all of these things do not mean a child is hopeless. They are still human beings and deserve a chance at a good life; and it is possible.

    • Vicki

      At what age do they become human?

      • Karolyn


      • Vicki

        WoW? Isn’t that a MMORPG?

  • chuckb

    karolyn, I have a copy of and world report from sept. 1965, they made a report on the watts riots and after effects, the situation rising from the ghetto’s. they have a story on some of the children running the streets, they didn’t know their parents, they were mentally unstable and didn’t think they were capable.i have had experience with some of these off springs and in my opinion they are not worth the effort.

    • Karolyn

      OMG, chuck! Human beings are not a disposable commodity!

      • Frank Kahn

        Tell that to your administration.

      • Kate8

        Good one, Frank. This current regime definitely DOES view humans as disposable… anyone, any time, for any (or no) reason.

        I might also remind anyone who doubts this that they have everything in place for mass genocide in America. Just why would they do this unless they have some really bad plans.

        Answer: they wouldn’t. The fact that they’ve done this many times before should at least give pause…

  • Ben Bennet

    What’s wrong with the dude’s eyes?


    Ron Paul and Frank Zappa on the Danger of American Fascism

    • http://personalliberty Alondra

      Jay, Watch this Video if you did not see it yet:

      DHS has placed an order for 450 million rounds of Hollow Point ammo
      Our rights do NOT exist anymore.
      Our regime already is fascistic.

      • Vicki

        Our rights DO exist. They were given to us by our CREATOR. We hire mercenaries to PROTECT those rights. (See Constitution, US) Since they are NOT we need to fire them and hire some that WILL honor their contract and oath.

      • Kate8

        You are so right, Vicki. No one has the authority to take away our natural rights. We relinquish them.

        Likewise, no one is going to give them to us. It is up to us to claim them and not back down.

        If anyone else had the right to claim authority over us, then that would suggest that some have rights and others don’t, that some people are better than others. And those who demand that government commit crimes of plunder and oppression upon those singled out because of their financial status, are just as guilty as those who do the dirty work.

        It’s too bad we have so many people who justify committing crimes upon others because of their own personal needs, desires or opinions.

        The greatest crime here is the complete obliteration of all aspects of Love and morality, because a people who lives by these things quite naturally steps up to assist those in need, and creates a society which can provide a place for everyone.

        To corrupt a society as we have allowed in America can bring only one result: RUIN.

        Again, that is self-evident to anyone willing to look.

      • WTS/Jay

        No, i have not seen this one in particular, Alondra; however, i’m all too the familiar with the information in the video presentation. As for the 450 million rounds of ammo, i’m just wondering if that isn’t just an attempt at mind-f*ck, if you catch my drift… I say that because, if they truly wanted to commit the deed as the purchase would imply, they would have done it by now. But because they haven’t, simply means that they can’t and so they must rely on the use of psychological-torrorism!!! Keeping in mind that our government has become the tool for “terrorism” wielded by the fascist-corporations that own them, and understanding the “application” of terrorism, in that; it’s not so much about destruction and death, necessarily, but rather, keeping your “target” in a state of perpetual-fear which eventually renders your target completely “exhausted” and demoralized…if this is so, and i truly lean towards that, it is very important, therefore, that we react to the constant barrage of “propaganda” which is nothing more than psychological-terrorism with the appropriated response, that being; that we recognize it for what it is and we will not allow such to solicit from us, the desired response! It is also imperative that we keep our eyes and focus on the “ONE” who is truly in charge, and not the “storm”!

      • Vicki

        WTS/Jay says:
        “… is very important, therefore, that we react to the constant barrage of “propaganda” which is nothing more than psychological-terrorism with the appropriated response, that being; that we recognize it for what it is and we will not allow such to solicit from us, the desired response!”

        By definition ALL terrorism is psychological. It is notoriously hard to frighten the dead. The tools of terrorism include the sword (Sandy Hook, 9/11 etc) AND the pen (propaganda). The pen is well documented as being mightier than the sword.

        Let us take up our pens yet again and tell those who (supposedly) work for us that we are NOT afraid and that they MUST STOP being afraid for us.

        This site makes it easy to tell your representatives to not be afraid.

      • WTS/Jay

        Ha ha, Vicky! Most excellent!!! Now they know from yet another…that we are not afraid! TY for that…!

      • sam1966

        Here is something that describes what the 5th column thinks about school children:

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “I have examined all religions, and the result is that the Bible is the best book in the world.”

        John Adams

    • http://personalliberty Alondra

      Jay: “if they truly wanted to commit the deed as the purchase would imply, they would have done it by now.”

      Jay, I believe they TRULY wanted, but I think that they couldn’t, because:
      “military endorsements for Gov. Romney outnumber those for Obama by 100 to 1. And today, a shining example of the military’s support for Romney comes in the form of a Washington Times ad in which 500 former admirals and generals endorse the GOP candidate for president. “

      The ad’s headline: “We, the undersigned, proudly support Governor Mitt Romney as our nation’s next President and Commander-in-Chief.” It is then followed by the names of the 500 former military figures announcing their endorsement.

      “The move comes days after Democrats celebrated the coveted endorsement of former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff GEN Colin Powell, a long-time Republican who endorsed Barack Obama for the presidency, just as he did in 2008.”

      obama’s endorsement:
      1. General Wesley Clark, USA, (Ret)
      2. General Colin Powell, USA (Ret)
      3. Major General Paul Eaton, USA (Ret)
      4. Admiral Donald Gutter, USN, former JAG of the Navy, (Ret)
      5. Admiral John Nathman, USN, (Ret)

      They do not have Military support.

      BTC, do you know anything about General Carter Ham?
      He disappeared. It’s looks like the purge in the Stalin time.

  • WTS/Jay

    Russians Learned “Gun Control” Lesson

    “Moscow fell to the Bolsheviks not from a lack of weapons to defend it, but from the lying guile of the Reds.”

    Russian warns Americans not to fall for “you can trust us” trick.

    “Do not be fooled by a belief that progressives, leftists hate guns. Oh, no, they do not. What they hate is guns in the hands of those who are not marching in lock step to their

  • WTS/Jay

    Definition of terrorism:

    2) Technique used by Governments to manipulate public opinion in order to further an agenda.

    “The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the ‘devil’ only in order to drive the TV watcher to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism.
    The country behind this propaganda is the US …” Former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook

    They wrote in the old days that it is sweet and fitting to die for one’s country. But in modern war, there is nothing sweet nor fitting in your dying. You will die like a dog for no good reason. – Ernest Hemmingway -

    The pioneers of a warless world are the youth that refuse military service.
    -Albert Einstein -

    “Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.”
    - George Washington -

    “It is part of the general pattern of misguided policy that our country is now geared to an arms economy which was bred in an artificually induced psychosis of war hysteria and nurtured upon an incessant propaganda of fear.”
    -General Douglas MacArthur, Speech, May 15, 1951 -

    “War paralyzes your courage and deadens the spirit of true manhood. It degrades and stupefies with the sense that you are not responsible, that ’tis not yours to think and reason why, but to do and die,’ like the hundred thousand others doomed like yourself.
    War means blind obedience, unthinking stupidity, brutish callousness, wanton destruction, and irresponsible murder.” – Alexander Berkman -

    “The aim of military training is not just to prepare men for battle, but to make them long for it.” – Louis Simpson -

    Nothing is more despicable than respect based on fear.
    - Albert Camus -

    It is when power is wedded to chronic fear that it becomes formidable.
    - Eric Hoffer -

    You see what power is — holding someone else’s fear in your hand and showing it to them! – Amy Tan -

    One of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the great struggle for independence: – Charles A. Beard -

    “Another time, another war. Still, the same Masters of War” – Bob Dylan, 1963 -

    “To repress rebellion is to maintain the status quo, a condition which binds the mortal creature in a state of intellectual or physical slavery. But it is impossible to chain man merely by slaving his body; the mind also must be held, and to accomplish this, fear is the accepted weapon. The common man must fear life, fear death, fear God, fear the Devil, and fear most the overlords, the keepers of his destiny.” – Manly Palmer Hall (Occultist and 33rd degree Mason)

  • sam1966

    Here is something that we could tell all Obama bin Laden supporters (47% of Americans on the government dole.). This is a great story of someone who overcame odds and made something of themselves:

    FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

    You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

    “The general principles on which the Fathers achieved independence, were the general principles of Christianity.”

    John Adams
    June 28, 1813

  • Terry Storie

    ,,,,,funny, and has to be right!!!!……


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