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Who’s The Idiot Who Foisted Daylight Saving Time On Us?

March 11, 2011 by  

Who’s The Idiot Who Foisted Daylight Saving Time On Us?

Who’s the idiot who foisted daylight saving time on us? Oh, wait, I know. It was Congress. That shouldn’t come as a surprise. Most of the really dumb things this country has done over the past 50 or 100 years began with something the politicians and their do-gooder friends dreamed up.

It all began back in the dark days of the Great Depression, I’m told. The idea was that moving clocks forward in the spring and back in the fall would give farmers one more hour of daylight each day. All of the money they’d save not having to burn kerosene or use electricity for that extra hour would save so much money the depression would soon be over.

Sure it would.

Truth is, all of the New Deal schemes Franklin Delano Roosevelt and his cronies could think of (some of which were modeled very closely on the economic practices of their buddies in Soviet Russia) didn’t do a thing to end the depression. What did bring that ghastly period of massive unemployment to an end was America’s entry into World War II. It got our factories roaring again—but at a terrible price.

With that depression long since gone and farmers having dwindled to a tiny fraction of our population, why then do we still have daylight saving time inflicted on us?

And not just inflicted, mind you, but “improved?”

The wizards of Washington decided in 2007 that if seven months of daylight saving time is good for us, eight months would be better. From 1986 until 2006, daylight saving time ran from the first Sunday in April until the last Sunday in October. Then Congress decreed that it would run from the second Sunday in March until the first Sunday in November.

I don’t know how many folks were late for church the first time the new rules took effect, but I’ll bet it was a bunch.

By the way, here’s an interesting twist in the law imposing daylight saving time on us. No state or municipality is required to follow it. But any that do (and that’s almost all of them) must follow the dates Congress imposes.

You may be aware that Arizona has never agreed to change its clocks. If you live there or do any business there, you certainly are. So for part of the year, Arizona is on the same time as California; the rest of the year, it’s on the same time as Colorado.

Confusing? Wait, it gets worse. Even within Arizona, the Navajo Nation decided it would obey the Big Chief in Washington. So it goes on daylight saving time with the rest of the nation.

Except it’s not the rest. Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Guam, the Virgin Islands and American Samoa all decided to opt out of the time-changing deal. Hot as those places can be, I guess they didn’t need an extra hour of sunlight in the summer.

If you think all of this can be difficult to keep straight, consider what it must have been like in Indiana for most of the 20th Century. First, the Hoosier State is split into two time zones and, until recently, neither area participated in daylight saving time. Under the old system, 77 of the state’s 92 counties were in the Eastern Time Zone—but stayed on standard time all year. But two of those 77 followed the example of the larger cities nearby—even though those cities were in the States of Ohio and Kentucky—and adjusted their times each spring and fall.

The counties in the Central Time Zone—mostly ones in the Northwest, near Chicago, and the Southwest, near Evansville—alternated. Some followed daylight saving time, some did not.

More than two dozen efforts were introduced in the Indiana legislature to put the entire State on the same clock, so to speak. But until April 2005, they all went down to defeat. But that year a measure to join daylight saving time finally passed. But get this: 18 counties are in the Central time zone, while 74 others observe Eastern Daylight Saving time.

Are we having fun yet?

So this Sunday at 2 a.m. you’re supposed to turn every clock in your house forward one hour. (And don’t forget the clock on your microwave, your stove and in your car.) Says who? Says Congress, which in its infinite wisdom decided back in 2004 that an extra hour of daylight at night would save us beaucoup batches of energy.

Are they right? I have absolutely no idea. It means it stays darker longer in the morning. And it seems to me that sending our children off to school when it’s still pitch black outside is a bad idea.

Nor am I convinced that an extra hour of daylight at night is all that great. I remember when I was a youngster, back when the earth was cooling, how much I hated being sent to bed when it was still light outside. I had a very simple philosophy then: Night was for sleeping, daylight was for playing. (Okay, it was also for homework and chores. But those weren’t nearly as important to me and my friends.)

I’ve learned to my surprise that moving the start of daylight saving time is no minor matter. Microsoft has issued a warning that users of its software “should view any appointments… as suspect” until they have been reconfirmed. That sounds rather ominous, doesn’t it?

What’s the problem? Well, it turns out that any software written prior to the enactment of the new law has the time change wrong. Your computer or other digital device will tick off the hours as usual this coming weekend—but come April 4 will move all times forward an hour.

This reminds me of the time our company accountant missed a meeting with one of the most unusual excuses I’d ever heard. He claimed that the time on his computer had somehow been reset for the time zone in Tahiti, or something like that.

Anyway, all of his calendar reminders and appointments were off by several hours. Could the same thing to happen (albeit on a lesser scale) next week? We’ll soon find out.

My point is none of this was necessary. Someone needs to remind our Congress people, “It’s not nice to fool with Mother Nature.”

Here’s a suggestion for those lawmakers: Why don’t you do us all a huge favor and just leave things alone?

Come to think of it, that’s a pretty good idea to apply all of the time.

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

–Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • s c

    So DST goes back to FDR and his unique brand of social engineering quackery. If it served a purpose, that time is long gone.
    Why do our world-class leaders think we’re better off with it than without it? On the whole, DST is just another example of unnecessary Uncle Scam ideas that never die once they’re started.

    • http://aol Bill

      As usual, blockhead is wrong. It started at the onset of us going into WW1.

      • DaveH

        Was the name-calling necessary, Bill? Is it like impossible for you Liberals to just state a fact without personal attacks? Here is the history of DST according to Wikipedia:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States

        • Eric Bischoff

          DaveH complaining of name calling. Now that’s precious!

          On the wikipedia issue, was that before the Koch Bros hired NMS to rewrite Wikipedia and whitewash their image. http://thinkprogress.org/2011/03/09/koch-wikipedia-sock-puppet/

          • DaveH

            As usual, the Liberal Eric attacks the messengers instead of refuting the facts.

          • Jana

            DaveH,

            They are perfect examples of the MEAN SPIRITED (take your pick) evil, leftist, liberal, Socialist, Communist wannabe, Democrats.

            Harry Reid’s favorite quote is “the mean spirited Republicans.” We have allowed that to go unchallenged for far too long. They are the ones who stated that the Republicans needed to sit in the back of the bus. They are the ones who snuck a $105 billion dollar budget for the Health Care Bill in the bill. They are the ones who wrote the bill in back rooms and would not listen to the people. They are the ones who insisted no one should have time to read it or understand it. They are the ones who manipulate and try to intimidate anyone who doesn’t agree with them. They are the ones who think they are smarter and more intelligent than everyone else, and that they should run our country and the rest of us should just go along with it. Wrong.

            Yep, the dirty ugly old black covered with soot pot calling the kettle black needs to be called out!

          • JeffH

            Jana, I can only agree with you…well said!

          • Denniso

            Enough w/ the bickering! Why don’t we all agree that we should leave the damn clock alone and let it stick to sun time. Maybe if Dems and Repubs band together we could stop this twice yearly dance w/ the clock and restore some sanity to our day and year. It isn’t like it’s rocket science to get rid of the change,we just need some of the passion and unity that both sides have exhibited lately…unite for a good cause.

        • skip

          You wingnuts are going to blame Roosevelt for everything – I’m sure you would prefer the sun to rise in the west and set in the south. When I grew up, the whackos said we were messing with “God’s time!” As if God decreed where the Greenwich meridien would be placed! It seems that all you can do is spend your energy suspecting and hunting down some conspiracy that is taking away your ability to live life exactly as you want it, the rest of the people be damned. That mentality went out with the discovery of fire, guys – it didn’t work. What has transpired since then is civilization. The events of the past weeks, and reading these blogs, convince me that you want to back away from civilization (forget about anything resembling culture) and regress to mere settlement, as in Tombstone in the 19th century, and then back to homesteading and defending your cabin with whatever weapon you please. There is plenty of room for that mentality and approach in the Libyan desert – give it a try. But don’t convert us to a desert and dust bowl again. But what the heck, it won’t take much work to back up the 6 thousand or so years you probably think is the time this earth and the universe came into being – you’ve taken us back 50 years in about 10 seconds in Wisconsin, and at that rate, we’ll be in the Stone Age in less than 4 hours. Up and at ‘em – time is a wasting!

          • Robert

            This is great, a certified babbling nutter lecturing on sanity.

          • DaveH

            Daylight Savings has nothing to do with Civilization, and everything to do with building Government bigger. And you Liberals won’t quit building it until our country has completely collapsed. Even though history and current events have shown that as Government Grows, the Economy Slows.

          • Vigilant

            “But don’t convert us to a desert and dust bowl again.”

            What a hoot! Blaming conservatives for the Dust Bowl is a new low for the lefties.

            “But what the heck, it won’t take much work to back up the 6 thousand or so years you probably think is the time this earth and the universe came into being…”

            Even better! An article about DST ends up as a leftist springboard to persecute Christianity.

            “you’ve taken us back 50 years in about 10 seconds in Wisconsin, and at that rate, we’ll be in the Stone Age in less than 4 hours. Up and at ‘em – time is a wasting!”

            No, 50 years is just about right, I’d say, when it comes to out-of-control government.

            How do you explain your compulsion to jump on your horse and ride off in four directions at once? I guess only a like-minded Alinsky-ite would understand that.

          • Vigilant

            Come to think of it, Tombstone would have been a better environment than we are in now. At least the communists were in much fewer number and probably would have been hanged for their sentiments.

          • Michael J.

            Skip,
            What you liberals are really saying is that you’re all scared to death of losing your L.A. fashion queen lifestyles. Ya see, Liberals don’t produce anything and are nothing without being able too absorb a living from the producers, the creative conservatives that made your life possible. No civilizations were ever begun by liberals, like parasites, liberals always show up later because in order to survive they require a thriving host from which to draw the blood of life. Now day liberals owe everything to our courageous ancestors who shed their blood for the liberal’s right to be a fool. How do you think things would have turned out if the pilgrims dropped off at Plymouth Rock had been the Beekman Boys? 48 hours later there would have been nothing left of them aside from a pile of droppings, because the indigenous inhabitants would have ate them.

            You liberals are nothing but a bunch of pathetic weaklings because your professors made you that way. Lacking the ability to think for yourselves as a result of socialist indoctrination and planned dumbing down that is so engrained that victims are unaware of their own blindness in matters of common sense. With courses like abstract reality where it is taught that nothing is 100% right and nothing is 100% wrong, no black or white solutions, just infinite shades of gray leaving no direction in which to turn, which culminates in mass societal paralysis, Exactly where and how the elite communist want you. Perched shivering with fear on the edge of a precipice, peering down into the new dark ages that you have helped create

          • Jana

            skip,
            By the way, its people like you that keep bringing up that we Christians think the world is only 6,000 years old.
            Sorry to disappoint you, but anyone that actually studies the Bible and goes back to the original Manuscripts knows that this world is probably millions of years old. There is a faction that does believe the 6 thousand year theory, but most of us know the truth.
            You are a perfect example of a MEAN SPIRITED (take your pick) evil, leftist, liberal, Socialist, Communist wannabe, Democrat and in your case I will add very misguided person.

          • JIBBS

            blah,blah,blah……alot of words that say nothing, again!

          • Jana

            wow Jibbs,
            That was an intelligent group of words, NOT!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            jibbs,
            I would say that unintelligent response perfectly matched your intellect!!!

        • Rice

          DaveH and Bitter Libertarian, the third word in the title of the article is “IDIOT” and you are criticizing commenters on name-calling? You people are so incredibly hypocritical. If the author had done 3 minutes of research he wouldn’t have blamed FDR. Or maybe he would have. You guys never seem to let facts get in the way of a good story.

          • DaveH

            As usual, the Liberals mount personal attacks instead of just presenting the facts.

          • DaveH

            And, Rice, that “Idiot” was a nameless person. Not the same as you Liberals who just can’t seem to make a comment without personally attacking your target commenter.
            Yes, many of the non-Liberals on the board resort to personal attacks, but the vast majority of us only do so when a Liberal comes on and draws first-blood. Don’t expect all of us to come to your gun fights with knives. We will defend ourselves.
            Some of us are so pure as to turn the other cheek and be civil to those Liberals who launch vicious personal attacks on our comments. Kudos to them. But, I’m not one of them.

          • Kinetic1

            Dave,
            The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks.

          • Bitter Libertarian

            Rice, To be a Hypocrite, one must do the behavior that they are criticizing, please elaborate where I was name calling? If you wish to accurate describe MY behavior you could say it was favoritism, or selective criticism of a certain behavior, in doing so you would be more accurate. Now if you asked me why I didnt “pounce” on the author of the article for his name calling, you got me.

          • Vigilant

            Rice is incapable of identifying a rhetorical question. Go back and take an English course, simpleton.

          • Rice

            Yes Bitterh, “hypocrite” was referring to your complaint of name calling when the article’ title begins with “Who’s the IDIOT…”. Sorry, to confuse you. I thought that was pretty clear.

          • Vigilant

            Perhaps you’d like to enlighten us as to whom was being called an idiot in the article headline? Once again, the operative word is “rhetorical.”

          • Rice

            Oh come on Vigilant. You can’t find any humor with ‘name-calling’ complaints in comments on an article that starts out with ‘Who’s the idiot…’ and then goes on to incorrectly implicate FDR as being the idiot? Regardless Vigilant, and I know DaveH’s and Libertarian have my back here – you aren’t supposed to name-call. Simpleton? Your words are hurtful.

          • Bitter Libertarian

            Bitter Libertarian says:
            March 11, 2011 at 9:52 am
            Name calling pretty much discredits your complaint.

            Hmmmmm…….dont see any confusion there…

          • Vigilant

            “…you aren’t supposed to name-call. Simpleton? Your words are hurtful.”

            As Forrest Gump’s mother always said, “stupid is as stupid does.”

            Case closed.

          • Vigilant

            Rice calls it “an article that starts out with ‘Who’s the idiot…’ and then goes on to incorrectly implicate FDR as being the idiot?”

            You obviously didn’t read the second sentence, dummy!

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          DaveH:

          I thought these liberal types were so proud of being “labeless”?

          • Eddie47d

            Dave H. is doing a little bit of grandstanding over much of nothing. Eric and I have listened to your name calling on a few occasions so take a chill.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Well Eddie, it’s the liberals who say they do not like the use of labels. Kind of like after the AZ incident they wailed about the need for civility. Think Wisconsin.

            I am not a liberal thank the good Lord.

          • DaveH

            Eddie,
            I rarely personally attack anybody without them drawing first blood.
            I would pit my percentage of personal attacks against yours or your fellow Liberals any day.

          • Eddie47d

            Touchy aren’t we? I’ll have to point you out next time on that first blood comment.

        • Bert Cundle

          Some of us Liberals Express Truths that others can’t percieve… Before there were Clocks, The Time was measured by Daylight & Darkness. Than the Clock That a measurement of Time Day/Night. The Seasons Caused Ballance Problem… Hense: DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME: Adjusting the CLOCK TO THE DAYLIGHT!

          • Michael J.

            Bert Cundle said:
            “Some of us Liberals Express Truths that others can’t percieve…”

            A-Yup, Lysergic Acid Diethylamide will do that.

          • Bert Cundle

            Michael:
            Or… Beacuse we don’t have our head up our recktal orface.

          • Jana

            Bert C.,
            No, its the fact that you are like all MEAN SPIRITED liberals, you just THINK you are smarter than everyone else.

          • Bert Cundle

            JANA:
            You think you are Smarter than Liberals? Beacuse you have direction? There are 2 sides to Direction… Right & Wrong. Or beacuse you have no Direction? Rot wateing for things to get better for you!

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Bert:

            It’s not that we think liberals are stupid. It’s just that they know so much that just simply isn’t so.

          • Bert Cundle

            The ones that Slam Liberals Dont Know what a “Real” Liberal is ~ Beacuse Many people that claim to be Liberal “ARN’T”
            The Expansions of The Basic Defineing… Reduce the Basic!

          • Jana

            Bert C,
            There you go again, trying to put words in other people mouths. No one said we thought we were smarter than you liberals/Communist wannabe’s, just smarter than you liberals/communist wannabe’s thought. You liberals are the one who thinks you are smarter than everybody else and should rule us. We are on to your tactics. You all seem to think if we want to follow the Constitution that our Government was founded on that we are mean spirited. However, we are finding that you all are the MEAN SPIRITED ones who want to control. The majority rules, but not in your playbook.

          • Bert Cundle

            “LIBERAL” IS THE -OPPOSIT- OF RULEER! You must have been tought wrong… Did you go to Government or Church Run School? ( That would explain it!) Liberal Is { FREELOVE } Free to Love… NOT Controlling in any way!!!

          • Jana

            Bert C.,
            You are right, its SUPPOSED to mean that, but just like everything that Mean Spirited people get a hold of, they pervert it, and twist it and now you have the current liberalism that means control and ruling and Mean spirited and Socialist/Communist wannabe’s.
            Your heart may be pure, but its not what is going on in actuality.

          • Bert Cundle

            JANA: PERVERTS; Government People Payed By U.S. Citizens, Speaking for AMERICAS! EVERY TIME I HEAR A POLITICAN SPEAKING TO / FOR AMERICANS, I want to stuff them in a Led Casket!

          • Bert Cundle

            Jena: The Inturnal Turmoil, in United States, is ignored by most people, beacuse they want to get in the FLOW… The internal combustion Engine, has “4″ Stroles… Intake/Compression/Power/ EXHAUST!

          • Jana

            Bert C.,
            I guess this all makes sense to you. I personally don’t speak mechanic.
            Another point is I didn’t call them a pervert I said the liberals perverted, distorted, ruined what true liberalism means.

          • Bert Cundle

            That is one of the many signs of the U.S. of A. Melt Down! Politicans appear to be to blame! But The Citizens with their heads barried in the sand, beacuse it is easer to ignore than to rebel. We are the sheep, they are the sheepards. For near 50 years I been trying to Civilize U.S. of A. & California… Trying to abolish the Criminal System; But The Government uses the Criminal System – Like the Preacher Uses The Bible! ( I Rebel against the way they do that to…)

          • Jana

            Bert,

            How have you tried to abolish the criminal system?

          • Kinetic1

            Remember the words of the un-named bush aid, who spoke of us common folk living in a “reality based community”;
            “…when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities..” You “will be left to just study what we do.”

            And you want us to trust these guys to run our Country? No wonder we’re in the mess we’re in.

          • Bert Cundle

            JANA: USEING THE COURTS… Demanding that I Be Tried in a Civil Court! Sueing the Criminal Courts & Cal. Department of Correction! I have Dedicated My Life to Destroying the Criminal System, And, Struggleing to inforce the CIVIL SYSTEM every chance I Get!

          • Jana

            Bert,
            What was going on? Were you being tried in a criminal court for a civil offense?

          • Bert Cundle

            A VICTOMLESS Insident: Refered to as a Missdemer, But Used as a Feloney, beacuse I Represented my self… NO Lawyer (Criminal Lawyer Representing me!) They wanted me to except a Criminal Lawyer as my Savior ” Real Christian of them!” I’m Doing “Life” on a MISDEMEANER!

          • Jana

            Bert,
            There is no such thing as a victimless incident especially since you have become your own victim.
            Why are you blaming or mad at Christians? Our laws are stated and are for the Christians as well as the non Christians. The law isn’t prejudiced.

          • Bert Cundle

            Jana… You Don’t see the Connection between LAWS & Religion? Codes Used as Law Is why there are so many CODES! The Civil Code s the Respect the Rights of others,as well as others must respect your (My) RIGHTS. Our Acts are based on Respect; Fear; Laws & Orders! THE TEN COMANDMENTS Have been enlarged to be the PENAL Code!

          • Jana

            Bert,
            If you represented yourself, I can see why you are in prison. You are a very mixed up person. It is sad that you do not have a personal relationship with God. Having a personal relationship with God, our Heavenly Father, has nothing to do with religion, it has to do with a relationship. It has to do with getting a Bible and studying the Word of God to find out what He wants from you. The first thing He wants is your love. The second thing is your obedience to Him. There is such joy and inner peace when you know Father, and know you are in His will. Jesus Christ died to take our sins on himself to pay for our sins that when we come before God we are spiritual virgins. We have not worshiped a false god and especially not bowed down to satan.
            I know this is not what you want to hear, but it truly is what you need more than anything else. You need this more than food or water.

          • Bert Cundle

            JANA: I see that You Have Drank The Cool-Aid! You have “NO” Perception of God! Did You Create Yourself? Appairently you have been molded to be what Preachers want you to be! God ISN’T Male or/and Female… Is Time M/F ? Is Space M/F? Is Life M/F? You like Modern Believeing Christions have been DUPPED!

          • Jana

            Bert,
            Then we have nothing else to say to one another. I will add, you are in a much bigger prison than the building you are in. You are in a prison of lies and deceit. Wow. You are the one who has been duped.
            I shall not come on this site any longer so good bye.

        • Donel

          Every one that makes a mistake, are they a block head? No.
          Bill was wrong too. It did not start in WW1, my Dad was in WW1.

          Were you there in the 40s? I was. It started during WW2, as everything was rationed. Gas, sugar, sigarettes & Lucky Strike Green went to war, it was used for camouflage.

          So too, was energy, called day Light Saving time.

          In restaurant’s sugar was taken off table’s, to keep people from taking it. Then put back on after WW2. But not the screw up time.
          One Big Head Ache.

        • Bud Offutt

          Forgive me for saying so, but you sound just like the IDOTS that are
          in Washington making these stupid laws! It seems that every crook, sharliton,or otherwise shady person is all the American people will vote into the White house! I must ask, are you a politician?

      • Robert Hauser

        The author indicated that he wasn’t certain and yes, it was during the so called Great War to end all wars and ram mobocracy down everybody at the point of a bayonet. And I have a rather authoritative small treatise here on global timekeeping that maintains that daylight SLAVING time was actually dreamed up by a brit about that time. Quite unfortunately it caught on in the U.S.

        Back in the early 1930s a humorous dance band number with vocal was composed ridiculing the idea…I think it was Ted Weems orchestra as I recall….somewhat of the genre of “Fifty Years from Now” that a couple of Depression era Homer & Jethroe novelty singers got going back then.

        The whole idea of daylight slaving time is, like most of flatulates out of the kind of social misengineers that this country is cursed with, covered with flies—-if you wish to get up an hour earlier in the summer months…then GET your ass up an hour earlier, don’t force everybody else to set their clocks ahead just because of YOU…iti is about like these Moronic Motherly types who got themselves conned into believing that fluoridated drinking water was “good for their kids teeth (NOT!!!!!)” and who, so typical of braindead soccer moms throughout the land, made the leap: I think EVERYBODY should be made to do it.

        STUPID
        STUPID
        STUPID

        And so consistent with latter day America.

      • Carol

        So, both are right. It started in 1918 and then was abandoned until FDR brought it back.

      • JIBBS

        Hey you! Bilieboy, you are the block head. DST start in Germany in fro 7 months between 1918 -1919. The German people rebelled at the idea, and it was repealed. DST in the U.S. started in Feb. 1942. So there you have it. Next time, if you don’t know, ask. It pay to do your homework.

        • Donel

          Thank you Jibbs, you know your history. 1918-1919 is before my time. But I do remember when change the time came in 1942. then it was all about save energy, light bill.

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        Bill,

        The first national observance of Daylight Saving Time in the United States was in 1918, to save energy during World War I. This lasted seven months before being repealed. A similar, year-round, national observance went into effect in World War II, starting February 9, 1942, and ending September 30, 1945.

        For the next two decades, there was no national rule regarding DST. Individual states, cities, and towns could start or end it at any point. This led to nationwide confusion, as the country became a patchwork of different observances. Finally, in 1966, Congress passed the Uniform Time Act, establishing DST as beginning on the last Sunday in April and ending on the last Sunday of October. No area was required to observe daylight saving time in the first place, but those that chose to do so were required to use the nationwide starting and ending dates.

        Those starting and ending dates have changed over the years. From 1986 through 2006, DST ran from the first Sunday in April to the last Sunday in October. Beginning in 2007, the observance starts on the second Sunday in March and ends in the first Sunday in November, adding an additional month.

        • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

          Daylight Saving Time;who needs it.

    • Harold Olsen

      I read somewhere that it was Benjamin Franklin who first came up with the idea of daylight saving time. He is apparently credited (blamed?) for it officially. At one time, I also read that it was Julius Caesar who first came up with it. When I read that my reaction was that he got what he deserved from the Roman Senate. Et tu Brute?

      Whomever it was, I hate it. I wish they’d do away with it. We spend about 8 month a year on DST and only about 4 months on standard time. I think it’s ridicules.

      • Cathy

        It WAS Benjamin Franklin who first came up with the idea of daylight savings time when he was in Paris in 1784. I’ve always thought it was a stupid idea. (Sorry Ben…)

        “Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody care?” –Chicago

        • CJ

          Cathy, by the way… it’s Daylight SAVING Time, Not SAVINGS. But anyway, does anybody even remember when we didn’t change our clocks one year. Nixon’s administration decided not to. Don’t think anybody got hurt from that.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            CJ:

            Are you filling in for Tom Anderson today?

          • skip

            All of you who are frightened of a one hour time change should definitely stay home – you certainly can’t go north or south because the sun sets later in the north in the summer, later in the winter; and totally forget about travelling east to west – look how many time zones you would cross and run the risk of complete collapse and disorientation. And I would be sure that you would never travel abroad – not only is the rest of the world involved in plots to destroy America, but the time change would do you in; but all the other countries of the world are a bunch of Nazi/Fascist/Communist/socialist/buddhist American hating who- knows- whats and you wouldn’t want to interact with them, I’m sure.

          • libertytrain

            skipper – I’ve read a lot of comments but sure didn’t see any mentioning being frightened of the time change. Are you perhaps on the wrong site? :)

        • karolyn

          As long as I don’t have somewhere I need to be, I don’t care. Time is a human invention anyway.

          • Vigilant

            True, true, and as a retired old fogie I have a great deal of leeway in putting things on MY schedule. However, the PTB don’t change their opening and closing times so we have to make adjustments to accommodate them.

            It gives those folks who work regular schedules more daylight for their after-dinner recreation, not a bad thing.

            Personally, I think DST should be made permanent time. Light is life and darkness is depression.

      • Aix Sponsa

        Franklin got the idea when he visited France. Check it out.

        • Vigilant

          It makes sense. Paris is 48.5 degrees north latitude, roughly equivalent to Havre, Montana. Summer nights you can still read a book at 10 P.M., but in the winter it gets darker and lasts longer than in most US locations.

      • Aix Sponsa

        After 55 years, 99% of all the people that I have ever met anywhere PREFER that the clocks ALWAYS BE ON SUMMER TIME.

        Even when we were kids we hated it getting dark at 445 pm. Granted there is a big difference between actual clock/daylight if you are on the eastern or western edge of the zones.

        I think that DST conditions the children of the working masses to go to sleep in the light because lots of them will be working midnights in some 7/11 anyway.

      • David

        Fully agree, both on the idea originator and the desire to eliminate DST. I hate it! The Wikipedia article is good but fails to mention that the whole state of Michigan is really in the wrong Time Zone in the first place–Michigan is in the Eastern Standard zone but the Sun rises in Detroit (eastern edge of the state) 48 minutes later than it does in Boston, MA–Michigan should be in the Central Standard Time Zone. When the zones were established, the financiers in Detroit (only big city at the time) wanted to be on the same time with those in NYC so the state went on EST. Michigan is also fairly high in Latitude, so the daylight hours vary quite a lot between winter and summer. With the hour shift from DST and the fact that the state is in the wrong zone, school kids definitely do go to school in the dark for a significant part of the DST period.

        When I was growing up in Detroit, the farmers (they had some influence back then) all objected to DST–the only people who wanted it were those who wanted more daylight after work to play golf or tend their gardens. I’m not a “morning person” so anything that makes me get up earlier is anathema to me. (Did I say I hate DST?)

    • CJ

      Great, the liberal ad-hominems kick off, right off the bat. They are relentless to prove they can’t debate the issue.

    • Meredith

      I love DST and wish we had it all 12 months. I hate that it is dark at 5:00 PM during the Winter months – so depressing.

      • David

        Instead of having the government force everyone to change their clocks, or (if DST were made permanent) effectively putting everyone in a different Time Zone, why not just have businesses and laborers set up their opening/closing hours to be an hour earlier? If a shop now opens at 0800 in Standard Time, instead of establishing DST all year long, just open the shop at 0700. Problem solved, and the Sun is still more or less overhead at noon (the original idea of Time Zones in the first place). Admittedly, there might be some local non-uniformity but I don’t see that as a real problem–each person would know when the businesses they frequented were open, just as is the case now (not all businesses open at 0800). Banks might not like it, but who cares about what banks like?

    • Dell

      Come on tell the truth! It was businesses that felt they would earn more if there was one more hour of “play” and shopping time for adults. Congress didn’t dream it up on their own. These special interests pressured their congress reps through their campaign donations and lobbyists to convince their representatives it was a necessasrt thing. I abhor the daylight savings time but my neighbors love it so I’m in the minority on this one.

    • Andee

      Yep and biologist say our bodies never conform to it and indeed is bad for them – particularly those that are depressed. Do we not use more electricity during these months as it is dark in the morning and we do not sleep as we need to because it is too light to do so?

      It is particuarly hard on the creatures too….their clocks do not change and you see more slaughter on the highways, animals breeding when they should not be, etc.

      • CurtisL

        Andee… Daylight Savings Time has no effect on “the creatures”. Animals have evolved (or were created) to function normally in the daylight allotted to them throughout the seasons.

        • libertytrain

          I think you misread what he was saying. The animals are still out doing their thing in the early morning dark hours that suddenly have more traffic on them because the animals don’t adjust their internal clocks. No one told them to look both ways before crossing in Daylight Saving Time.

          • CurtisL

            Thank you LibertyTrain, I see your point. I guess it was the line “…animals breeding when they should not be” that confused me. It’s not the animals, it’s the people. But, now I’m wondering how many people regularly commute to work through ‘wild animal” territory? Whatever the cause, animal – vehicle collisions are awful for any reason.

          • libertytrain

            Curtis, far more people than one would imagine travel when the roads are dark. We’ve had 3 deer commit suicide with our car on three separate occasions over the last 10 years, not to mention the endless critters I have swerved to miss. City people can and do have this problem as well. Big problem with deer in the City of Asheville, Milwaukee and many others.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            libertytrain,
            I live in a small town and right at the end of our street, we have a herd of about 12 to 20 deer and about 6 or 8 coyotes!! The DNR knows they are there and the only thing they will do is tell you that with the coyotes, don’t leave your small dog out alone at night!!

          • libertytrain

            Joe – don’t forget to let them know it’s Daylight Saving Time – :)
            It’s amazing how much wildlife there really is – they have got to live somewhere!

      • Randy G

        Aint that the truth.. Back in the 1970′s during the wnter N.H. had a problem. It was getting dark before 5 P.M., Kids were playing in the street & getting hit by cars because of the dark. So, the NH legal people got the idea to go on daylight time & move the clock forward 1 hour , so 5 pm was still daylight, problem solved!!???? NO! The kids got hit in the dark mornings on their way to school.

    • RW

      After reading these posts for about 10 minutes, I feel like I wasted a lifetime:(

  • TIME

    I sure do miss Arizona they didn’t partake in this lunacy.
    Hey Fun Blog Chip.

    I find its so strange it takes most folks weeks to get with the program after these stupid changes. So on a scale of 1 – 10 for productivity, I give this worthless program a ZERO.

    • Chris

      If I wanted more daylight at night, I would go live in Norway for the Summer.

      • skip

        Why don’t you try Antarctica then – total darkness at every level seems to be your goal!

        • Mary Kay Andrews

          My goodness Why all the acrimony? There are some people who visit this site who are, to be kind, a little bit twisted. Saying you like or dislike changing your clocks because some government agency says so is like saying you like peanut butter with jelly. Are you here just to pick a fight?
          I hate daylight saving time, but, so what? If you like it, great.

    • DaveH

      You’re being generous, TIME. I think it’s most likely that DST is costing our country Billions of dollars each year in missed work time and unnecessary scheduling changes.

      • DaveH
      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        And, DaveH, it’s causing Global Warming!

        • Vigilant

          LOL! And I always thought it was giant termite farts that were reponsible.

          • Jana

            Old Henry and DaveH,
            You two are so funny. I am still laughing. Keep it up.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Vigilant,
            Can you say COW FLATUENCE?? Or if you are into being a cad, COW FARTS!!!

      • Andee

        Yep and it is not good for our health…physicians that study this have stated so, biologists and other scientists have stated so. Our natural clocks never truly acclimate to it ….

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Who better to discuss this issue than…. TIME himself!

      • JeffH

        Old Henry
        I do enjoy your “tongue in cheek” type of humor.

        • Vigilant

          OH is always there with….a stitch in time.

          • TIME

            Did I hear my name being called?

            Have a good weekend folks, Pray for the people of Japan.

          • libertytrain

            Have been all day.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            I listened to Little Barry’s “press conference”, or as much as I could stomach. (I have a low tolerance for lies) I kept waiting for him to blame at least the tsunami on Bush, if not the earthquake as well.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Old Henry,
            i heard Bush stayed in bed all night and day so he couldn’t!! Wait, how did he know to do that???? HMMMMMM!

          • Jana

            I woke my husband up and made him watch some of it with me last night. It was like watching a horror movie. Cars going in both directions and both directions were leading them to the rushing water. Then, to see their cars being swept off the road.
            Now their nuclear power plants are in trouble and one is leaking. Natural disasters happen, but it sure is sad to watch. We have amazing technology to watch something like that within a few hours clear across the world.
            Yes, we are praying too.

  • spepper

    In light of current circumstances, it might be worth considering for Arizona to declare itself an independent republic– since it is being invaded by an armed aggressor to the south– with an outlaw federal goverment’s blessing that refuses to hold up its end of the “constitutional bargain”…..

    • Robert Hauser

      You’ve got that right…the people of Arizona seem to be the only ones left in the land who don’t suffer from severe and terminally advanced cavitation of the brain. Bottled water must be the law there….but then, they put the most repulsive wart hog from here to the far side of Hell in as Arizona State governess—-Janet Winer Napolitano, current Secretary of Gnomeland Security

      • Dan az

        Robert
        Can you think of a better place to send her? She wasn’t welcomed here any more! So sorry everyone but better there than here!

    • Andee

      Well, WA is threatening to secede as is TX, perhaps this could become fashonable!

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        And that Kenyan facsist was touted as being such a unifier…

  • Pete0097

    I HATE THE TIME CHANGE. It screws me up for weeks.

    • Aix Sponsa

      Gives us a break. You got to be shxxtng us.

  • Tazio2013

    Yo Chipster, you old white wing wacko; don’t you have something more important to whine about than DST?

    Suggest you read today’s Daily Bell, including reader feedbacks, and offer your comments:

    http://www.thedailybell.com/1850/Peter-Kings-Terror-Hearings-Take-Over.html

    • Temlakos

      You are bringing “Nine-Eleven Truther” nonsense to a discussion about an unrelated historical event. Ordinarily, I would welcome a further discussion of the issues that seem to trouble you. But the comment space of this article isn’t the place to do it.

    • JIBBS

      TROLL !!!

  • Susan

    I don’t much care how it came about. I love it. I can’t wait for Sunday and the time change. It makes a huge difference to me!!!

    • http://wordpress usfrog

      I love it too ! I have known Europe BEFORE time change and let me tell you that in countries where electricity is much more expensive than it is in the USA, it does make a difference on the bill. In the fall, you can stay outside longer hours before it gets dark. Going to bed when it’s still daylight is not an issue, in higher latitudes you have daylight all night, that is why people have shutters.If countries around the world have adopted it, chances are it’s not just because of Congress !

      • skip

        Come on now, we all know that DST is a
        communist/nazi/fascist/socialist/progressive/liberal/islamist/jewish/catholic/buddhist/confujcianist/scandinavian/siberian/bolshevik/albanian plot to take away our rights to self determination. Get real – the threats out there are overwhelming, and we’ll each need a small tactical nuclear weapon to defend our property and manhood.

        • Kinetic1

          skip,
          You forgot the Druid and Egyptian Sun worshipers. Given the current trouble in Egypt, there may be a connection!

      • Vigilant

        Having spent 19 years in the Netherlands and Germany, I can tell you I miss those “rouladen” here. It was great to roll them down and get a good night’s sleep regardless of the light level outside! When theywere in place, it was absolute darkness.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Susan.. We are in the minority. I like having longer evenings of daylight. It is probably all in my head, but I feel more energetic. However, if they were to go back to not having it, I wouldn’t complain.

      • Aix Sponsa

        A lot of people have winter seasonal depression, SAD: Seasonal Affect Disorder. NO WONDER. Who in their right mind can stand having only 15 minutes of daylight AFTER you get off work? It IS depressing. KEEP SUMMER TIME FOREVER.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Robin:

        When I was still working I liked the extra time in the summer as it gave me time to get the yardwork done after work. I had a lot of grass to cut and worked ALOT of hours at my job.

        Now that I am not working the extra time gives me more time to mow and drink beer! Alchola and power equipment! As Homer (Simpson, not the philosopher) would say: “To alcohal! The cause of, and solution to, all of life’s problems”.

    • DaveH

      Yep, without that reset clock telling me it’s time to go to bed, I just can’t sleep, and I have to stay up an extra hour burning those lights even though I’m very sleepy. I’m kidding, I live in Arizona.
      Thank goodness I live in Arizona where we don’t have that nonsense!

      • Carlucci

        I visited Phoenix/Scottsdale last year. Had never been there before.
        Arizona is gorgeous.

        P.S. I loved your Libertarian candidate for governor, also. Even though I don’t live there, I watched all the debates. As usual, the Libertarian mopped the floor with all the other candidates.
        He was the only one I could take seriously. One from the “green” party was a total nerd, and the other two did nothing but attack each other.

        • DaveH

          I especially like the mountainous areas.

          • Vigilant

            Don’t forget Meteor Crater! Standing on the edge of that took my breath away.

          • DaveH

            Vigilant,
            Speaking of Meteor Crater, here is a fascinating story about an old time prospector there:
            http://www.hkhinc.com/arizona/twoguns/diamonds.htm

          • Vigilant

            Hey Dave, thanks! That’s quite an interesting “Two Guns” history.

      • Andee

        You are fortunate Dave…

    • Rice

      Me too! I can’t wait to get out of work and still have plenty of daylight. I’d much prefer to be on daylight savings year-round.

    • Aix Sponsa

      AMEN After 55 years, 99% of all the people that I have ever met anywhere PREFER that the clocks ALWAYS BE ON SUMMER TIME.

      • Randy G

        Then tell them to get up & go to mwork 1 hour eariler!!

  • terry

    I am so happy someone else sees the folly of this entire time-switch business. Doesn’t this place us ahead of the sun. Please – everyone – if you want them to split the difference 30 minutes and leave the time alone, join with us in getting this insanity stopped. Or, back or forward, I do not really care, just stop the back and forth. The sun will still shine the same amount, regardless. It is such a pain for everyone.

    • CAllen Doudna

      Terry I was in the middle of writing that very idea when I had to go help the wife get grandma’s coat on. You’ll find my post a little further down.

    • DaveH

      And it is ridiculous.
      Yet another example of Government throwing up hoops for us to jump through like a bunch of trained seals in their never ending quest to pretend to be important in our lives. Orf, Orf.

    • skip

      And by all means make the earth flat as they thought before Columbus, so the times of daylight will be identical wherever you live, as on the equator. Or have the Conservatives and Tea Partiers pass a law in Congress that gets this done ASAP. For goodness sake, it just isn’t fair that the sun stays out later in Seattle than Biloxi in the summer, and goes down earlier in the winter – this is not the way the founding fathers wanted it! Isn’t there a article on this in the Federalist Papers? Have you all left your brains in Park! Why spend time blaming the great left wing conspiracy for all of this.

      • JIBBS

        WTF, is that all you do is cry and whine…….get a life.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          I think ol’ Skip must be a farmer and he’s posting from his “whine cellar”.

      • independant thinker

        skip sounds just like ol’ flashypants (hflashman). Lots of whining and lots of attacks with no substance.

        • JeffH

          independant thinker, ditto that…same message, different name.

        • Vigilant

          Yes, what has happened to old flash-in-the-pan? And where’s Clarence Swinney these days? I note that Eric Bischoff makes a feeble attempt now and then, but since he was outed as a communist we don’t read much from him any more.

          Then again, there’s no shortage of left wing braying donkeys on this site, so maybe they just changed their screen names.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            “Eric Bischoff makes a feeble attempt now and then, but since he was outed as a communist we don’t read much from him any more.
            Maybe he got a gig as a czar working with Der Fuhrer screwing up the country.

            And we have not heard from the texter Motorhome, or was it Motorhead.

  • BCohio

    It is for people who work in CONSTRUCTION. So we can start earlier in the day. It’s all about the heat of the Day..

    • Bitter Libertarian

      “Make hay while the sun shines” either you rotate my Clock, or I rotate my wake up time…

      I am sure that in certain places if the clock wasnt changed that Pi$$y people would complain about hearing the jackhammers & equipment rumbling an hour earlier as the construction works start earlier to use the cool mornings to get working. So to silence the whiners…the move the clock. Overall I could see how this would have a positive effect on certain industries that needs daylight & good weather to do their Jobs.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Bitter:

        It can still help the farmers with the soybean harvest as they have to be absolutely dry, no dew, before combining. They must wait till late morning, or even early afternoon, to begin and the extra daylight helps on the back end.

        • JIBBS

          Modern farm equipment come with factory installed headlamps, and have for several years.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Yes, but once the evening dew begins to settle the beans are once again damp.

    • DaveH

      Wait a minute. Are you telling me that your company couldn’t just adjust their work hours in such case?

      • Bitter Libertarian

        Some locals dont allow certain work to be done before certain hours or after certain hours.

        • DaveH

          Then that is a local problem. That’s what Freedom is all about.

          • DaveH

            You surely don’t think, Bitter, that the people, who are unhappy with the early hour or late hour activity, are going to suddenly be pacified because the clocks are changed?

          • Kinetic1

            Come on Dave, think about it. If the law says no loud work before 7:00 (just after the sun is up,) and you’re still asleep at 6:30, you’re going to complain about the construction noise if they start just as the sun begins to rise. If the time is shifted so that the work begins as the sun is rising, and your clock is now adjusted so that you are due to wake even before the noise begins, you have no reason to complain. So yes, I do think people are more willing to accept the noise, so long as they are following the time change.

          • Bitter Libertarian

            “You surely don’t think, Bitter, that the people, who are unhappy with the early hour or late hour activity, are going to suddenly be pacified because the clocks are changed?” LOL helllll no….but you know all politicians do is give 1/2 of the group a little less to gripe about, and the other half a little more to comprimise on. LOL

        • JIBBS

          Big city farmers, always waking me up with all that noise in the early wee hours of the morning………

    • Aix Sponsa

      What? The heat of the day? It gets to the same temperature whether you wear a watch or not? Just adjust your starting times. My son gets up at 4 sometimes 3 am, to get to work. Yes, they get off at the peak temperature time and then have several hours of daylight left to boogie. Going to bed at 8-9 pm is a thing to get used to…. especially if you are a television addict.

      • Andee

        Farmers/ranchers prefer to work in the cool of the day, not the evening hours when the soil is at its hottest temp.

  • Owen King

    Save an hour? Where? The hour is still there, the same numnber of hours will be light.
    If there is a problem, schools, factories, what ever, THEY CAN CHANGE THEIR START TIMES, if needed.
    With so many companies/businesses running 24/7 DST is a horrible anachronism, wait, it NEVER was a good idea.

    Maybe it would be better if we all went on the universal time? Nah, that would generate additoinal confusion, but please dump Daylight ‘Savings’ Time as it does not affect the number of daylight hours in a day.
    Thanks
    Rant off
    Owen

    • DaveH

      I agree, Owen. DST is just another example of people who could freely, before, do what they wanted, but that wasn’t enough. To be truly happy, they had to force their choices on the rest of us.

      • Kinetic1

        DaveH,
        It’s time for all you “individualists” to move to Texas and declare your selves an independent Republic again. Of course Texas couldn’t afford their independence last time, but why not give it a go anyway?

        • DaveH

          Duh, it’s time for you Liberals (who are a minority) to leave the country. I would say move to the Eastern Coast or Western Coast, but then Time and JeffH would get mad at me.

          • JeffH

            DaveH, naw…what’s one more matter when I’m outnumbered anyway? I’ll continue to defend my turf til I’m outta here, then maybe Cali will break off into the Pacific.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            DaveH,
            don’t you dare send them to Ohio! We already got too many of them here!!!!!

        • bob wire

          Oh we were did fare enough until D1ck Perry, much like the Honorable GOP Governor Walker, decided to reward his supporters and lower their tax burden. In 2006 he shifted the tax burdens around , tweaking this and that, rewarding some and punishing others.

          After a year went by Governor Perry was alerted that his new plan had created a 5 million dollars short fall and really wasn’t working as he had hoped it might. He elected to ignore it thinking perhaps no one would notice and maybe it would go away. So since 2006 Texas has acquired a 5 million dollar a years budget short fall. That’s represents 25 million of today short fall.

          I’m beginning to believe the Republican heart is perhaps good, but they just don’t know how to count other peoples money.

          It has been said many times , over and over again that the stimulus didn’t work. There was this hope on the part of the Administration that local government might take the advantage of the time afforded them to get busy and have their “Come to Jesus ” meeting and make the truly hard decisions that lay ahead, to correct their imbalances.

          It appears that the Fed has helped all the states found in great need in such fashion while the states Governors have chosen to instead launch constant attacks on the fed and wait until the twelfth hour or the twelfth days address these serious short falls in tax revenue.

          These state governors have behaved more like a bunch of spoiled “clicky” frat rats then dedicated statesmen and Administrators.

          And for the record, I’m a Texas American, and will support Lincoln’s final say in the matter. Where you go, you go without me. I’ll abide no such foolish talk of splitting the Union. From sea to shining sea my fellow American.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          Kinetic:

          I has recently been discussed in, and by, Texicans. I talked with a couple of them last summer out in CO. They said they really do not need the rest of the country as they have their own agriculture, energy and all they have to do is send the word to Texans in the military to come home and they would. They would then have their own armed forces, along with the TX Rangers.

          And they said that TX is the only state to have been a Republic before they AGREED to join the US after the govt. asked them.

          • Kinetic1

            Yep, and they AGREED because they were broke. Maybe they’ll have better luck this time.

        • Kinetic1

          JoeH,
          I’ve been to Ohio. In fact, my wife is from Coshokton. It was an OK visit, but forget how I feel, my wife would never move back.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Kietic,
            no offense to your wife, but if shes a progressive, we don’t need her!!!

      • Randy G

        Actually it was done by Franklin to get the party goers of his time to get work done.

  • http://www.piedmontwebmasterservices.com Dan

    It just seems crazy to me. Daylight and the earths rotation doesn’t care what our clocks say. We have so many hours of sunlight a day and nothing we do can change that. The stupid idea that by changing the clock we affect energy usage in the winter doesn’t make any sense. My heater goes on and off based on temperature, not the clock, nor the sun has anything to do with it. When I get home there is still super to cook, TV and computers come one and that has nothing to do with whether the sun is up or not. Maybe a “few” less lights come on but forcing everyone to use those stupid new light bulbs that takes a nuclear engineer to change should counteract the light thing.

    • DaveH

      Speaking of that, Dan, I noticed that the price of CFL bulbs has plumetted. Does anybody know if they are now being subsidized at taxpayer expense?

      • DaveH
        • Rice

          DaveH, usually a blog isn’t an accepted citation. Can you find something a little more credible to back your claim please? And just out of curiosity, what is it about the CFL bulbs themselves that you hate? I’m just talking the physical bulb, not politics. I am curious as to what physical properties can unite people of a political belief to feel so strongly about a light bulb.

          • libertytrain

            I know this is not addressed at me, but I’m big on actually being to see when the light bulb is turned on, not having to wait for it to become eventually brighter. And I like not having to fear for the safety of my grandchildren when one of the “new-improved” models breaks all over the floor. And I don’t like the government telling me that I will like these “improved” bulbs therefore we must switch to them because the government says I must. I don’t, and I tried.

          • Rice

            Thank you for your reply Libertytrain. I understand your concern over mercury and your grandkids. But there isn’t as much mercury in the bulbs as the hype would have you believe. There is more mercury in most servings of tuna fish than in a CFL bulb. And the mercury put into the atmosphere from the extra electricity used by an incandescent is almost 4 times greater than what is in a CFL – http://www.energystar.gov/ia/partners/promotions/change_light/downloads/Fact_Sheet_Mercury.pdf

            CFL’s are transitional technology anyway and wont be around long (LED’s). It just seems to that people like DaveH would resist using any product they feel is ‘shoved down their throat’ by the government, regardless of whether it’s a better product. Seems like ‘cutting off the nose to spite the face’ to me.

          • JIBBS

            I just saved $437.00 on my insurance bill……..CFL bulb’s contain mercury, enough to pose a big problem. Thats why they tell you not to throw them in the garbage

          • DaveH

            What is it about Freedom, that you hate, Rice? If you make a determination that CFL bulbs are right for you, fine. But let me make my own determination, thank you.

          • Rice

            Whoa, DaveH you got me. I do indeed hate freedom. On that note, carry on with your Liberty Bulbs and have a great weekend.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Rice,
            Compare them side by side and see which one puts out more actual light. A 60 watt incandecent bulb or a “pig tail bulb that’s equal to a 60 watt bulb!! I am all for the congressmen that have a bill before congress right now to BAN THEM!!!

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Rice:

            “CFL’s are transitional technology anyway”

            Yep, The facsist Kenyan will have transisioned to candles in the near future.

          • Randy G

            Have you found out YET that CFLs DO NOT work with most electronic devices such as Photocells & other TRIAC control units.

        • JeffH

          DaveH, good link.
          I’ll add this one also about CFL subsidies. C.F.L.s subsidized by California ratepayers are “being resold on eBay all over the country and even in Canada,” said Mindy Spatt, spokesperson for the Utility Reform Network. “The utility companies need to do more to provide real, on the ground savings to consumers, not just dump a few thousand light bulbs imported from China at Home Depot.”

          Right now C.F.L.s must compete with standard incandescents, which can cost as little as quarter each. But due to energy legislation passed by Congress in 2007, those incandescents will be phased out nationally beginning in 2012 and consumers will have to choose between compact fluorescents, light-emitting diode bulbs (L.E.D.s) and advanced incandescents.
          http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/28/as-cfl-sales-fall-more-incentives-urged/

          • DaveH

            The thing is that Government rarely outperforms the Free Market when it comes to selecting the best products. In fact, they have a vested interest to promote the worst products. The best products speak for themselves. It’s the manufacturers of the worst products that need the power of Government to facilitate their sales.
            I personally have owned CFL bulbs and was very disappointed with both their cost and performance. They are cheaper now, sure, because the taxpayers are paying the difference.
            I don’t hate CFLs as the Liberal Rice has said (pesky Liberals always trying to put words in my mouth), but I just wouldn’t choose them for my house. And I sure don’t want a bunch of know-nothing Liberals making my decisions for me through the force of Big Government.
            I do like the LED lights a lot, and would be happy to buy them when the costs go down, but I want those costs to go down due to manufacturing efficiencies, not because unwitting taxpayers are footing the bill.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            DaveH:

            You say that government RARELY out performs the provate sector. I would venture to say government NEVER out performs the private secotor.

            I have a couple of CJLs in my house in areas that are difficult to replace the bulbs as they generally outlast standard bulbs. However, I did have one catch fire when the balast shorted out.

            That bill was put together and passed by dems, but Bush was stupid enough to sign it. Maybe he never read it….

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Old Henry,
            Maybe it was another 2000 page bill that nobody had time to read and San Fran Nan said we have to pass it to see what’s in it!!!

  • Mary Ann Valentinetti

    I understand it had something to do with railroads going from east to west and vis versa…once the movement of goods had a time difference……..However, I do not think it is necessary….it upsets bedtime habits for children. Get rid of it!

    • Dingle

      A long time ago I rode a train up the middle of Illinois to Chicago. Every stop along the way switched back an forth on the Eastern/Central time zones. The conductor called out the time at each stop. Conductors were known for keeping good time and this one earned his money.

      • JIBBS

        The state of IL. is in ONE time zone !!

    • LES

      The time zones were results of railroads coinfusing timetables as each comunity had its own time. It was the idea of a Canadian Railroad man.

      Daylite savings was entirely different and not results of railroads.

    • Aix Sponsa

      Children are in training to be adults. They will learn. Ok, maybe not. 90% of adults I know are just 11 yr olds in old bodies. Look at the politicians. That’s the overall problem with the USA. Childish “adults”.

  • Disgusted

    Chip,

    In regards to Arizona, I think the state should enact a 100% volunteer army. This would allow for approximately 20,000 individuals who were armed to do the job. Just think how much better the state could handle their problems if they would enact martial law. Obviously, the federal government is not doing their job, so it is up to the citizens of the state to protect what is theirs.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      If they cover my expence I’d go down there for a month! I’ll bet I’m a better deal (fiscally) then any federal or State Armed security person too!.

      As long as they let me take my 50BMG, 45 long Colt & AR-15 Id take a Months leave to go to Arizona.

      • Dan az

        BL
        Like they say COME ON DOWN!

    • skip

      Arizona should be a separate nation – it does not need the remaining 49 states. Let it cut itself free, please. And the other states that are unhappy as well – Texas is strongly leaning that way and has considered seceding. It could be done.

      • Buddy

        Sooner or late, many states will be independent from the gorilla in Washington. It’s only a matter of time before the whole federal thing blows up.

        I realize that many people rely on the federal government to finance them, but the fiscal situation will end simply because the cupboard is bare and pretty soon the cupboard will be repossessed by creditors.

      • independant thinker

        I have a better idea skip. Why don’t you move to the Socialist Republic of Kalifornia and yall leave the United States.

        • Aix Sponsa

          Ya. Hurry and get there before it falls into the ocean.

    • Andee

      As is all else of we want anything done at all that is good, timely and effective. Notice the House has not made a significant movement forward on the promised repeal…they can defund it and they can rescind…..what are they doing, playing mini golf in their offices?

  • Bill F Johnson

    Doesn’t anyone remember that it was our illustrious FF Ben Franklin that came up with this cockamamy idea? (must have been his next thought after the lightening hit his kite…)

  • Temlakos

    Chip, I think you’ll have to explain how the rest of the world adopted their own version of DST, which they call “summer time,” at least in the Northern Hemisphere. (Most tropical countries, Brazil for example, don’t have a Summer Time convention, because they have no seasons as we know them. That’s why Hawaii stays standard year-round–because there’s no such thing as winter there, they being in the tropics.)

    Are you suggesting that the rest of the world followed an American example? And that is why international travelers have to keep up with British Summer Time, Irish Summer Time, Western/Central/Eastern European Summer Time, Israel Daylight Saving Time, Moscow Summer Time (actually I think that the Russians have decided to make “summer time” their year-round time)?

    Actually, DST doesn’t benefit farmers; they hate it. A farmer gets up and goes to bed with the local sun and the morning dew. DST is the time convention for city slickers and party animals. You might want to sound them out and ask them whether the time change makes the slightest difference to them, though–seems to me that they sleep until noon, no matter when the sun rises, and they like the dark.

    @Tazio2013: I’m sure that Chip hasn’t forgotten about the Peter King hearings. It’s just that now is the time to re-examine absolutely every single thing that Congress has done over the last century, to decide which ones to roll back. That includes DST.

  • Teri Gionfrido

    I love the change to DST …only wish we had it all year round!!

    • bill

      To the working man this makes all the sense in the world. By the time you get home it’s an hour you don’t have to work in the dark,it’s an hour you can spend hunting instead of getting home too late etc. The problem is that seat polishers don’t care about any of that stuff. They are 9 2 5 and look at sleeping in as something to be desired instead of getting an early start and getting home while you can still do something. I guess you can say I strongly agree with you

  • leo

    Another one of those things that the Majority of the American People don’t want, but Congress shoves it down our throats anyway.
    I’ve heard that they represent “The People” I wonder when they intend to start doing that?

    • http://www.piedmontwebmasterservices.com Dan

      never, never have, never will

    • gary

      Your statement about “the majority of the American people don’t want” is simply not true. We went through this whole debate in Indiana about 5 or 6 years ago when we went from standard time to daylight savings time. The people’s opinion was split pretty much 50-50. This is not an issue like Obamacare where government forced a very unpopular thing down our throats. The “against” crowd talked about kids waiting for the school bus in the dark. The “for” crowd talked about being able to get things done after work before it got dark (yard work, gardening, ball games, take walks in the neighborhood, etc.). Both sides have good arguments and think they are right.

      • Aix Sponsa

        99 % of all the people that I ever met want to stay on summer time.

        • Randy G

          BULL. If you stay on one time all year there is no DST!!!

    • Scott Johnson

      Living on the eastern edge of CST I appreciate not having sunrise between 4 am and 4:30 near the summer solstice. No I am not a give everything away liberal nor a cement headed conservative who would if possible take away personal freedom. Both sides lack common sense.

  • Ryan

    This is a stupid article. I think I just got dumber for reading it. First off, Daylight savings time was instituted in most of Europe in 1917. The US followed in 1918. Maybe this “writer” should get the actual facts before he make sensationalist claims. It seems as if he just wanted to attack FDR and the New Deal. Secondly, daylight savings was considered a great idea at the time because it reduced the use of kerosene on Farms (mmore daylight = less Kerosene use). Today it is just a novelty, a relic from olden days that might need to be eliminated. I agree with the overall thesis of this article (The elimination of daylight savings time), but found a more objective way of talking about it. Maybe I should take your job since you can’t objectively analyze even the simplest story. What a Joker.

    • http://personallibertydigest Dana PA

      Hey Ryan did anyone asked the dairy farmer if he likes DST. Cows do not look at the clock and say well I can wait one more hr. before I need milked,or go ahead milk me now, not used to it but maybe I will be ready for you to milk me one hr sooner, it can take a long time for the cows to become adjusted to the new schedule, and mean while the farmer is up at 3 morning instead of 4 to milk said cow, or still milking an hr later, so the farmer thing about changing the time for them is bunk.

    • DaveH

      Ryan Liberally sprinkles his comment with personal insults to Chip, and then has the gall to talk about Chip’s lack of Objective Analysis.
      Typical Liberal.

    • momplayer1954

      More daylight hours=less kerosene. I don’t know what planet your from,but I have the same amount of daylight every day weather my clock says 9:00 or 10:00.

      • Kinetic1

        For heaven’s sake people, how hard is this to grasp? If you reset the clock so that it is still dark at 7:00, you wake as the sun in rising. Not much need for lighting. By the evening the shift has caused the sun to still be out in till 7:00 or 8:00, maybe even later depending on your location. Less need for lighting during the prime hours of homework, dining, etc. Sure, there are just as many daylight hours whether we shift the clocks or not, but we shift our work hours to take advantage of the Sun’s pattern.

        Sometimes I think this site is nothing more than a place for whiners, curmudgeons and conspiracy nuts to wallow in their collective neurosis. For anyone with the ability to change their clocks, it’s only a couple of days a year that you need to concern yourselves. Is it really that disruptive?

        • DaveH

          Thank you for illustrating, Kinetic, that the Liberal way is Your Way or the Highway.
          We don’t care what your personal preferences are. We care that you insist on imposing your personal preferences on the rest of us.

        • DaveH

          And I find it odd that you, Kinetic, would have the nerve to whine about our whining when you come from a group of the biggest whiners of all time. Feed me, Clothe me, Shelter me, give me Free Health Care, waah, waah, waah!

          • JIBBS

            lmao! yes, he wants it all given to him………hehehe

          • Kinetic1

            DaveH,
            First, who says I like or dislike Daylight savings? All I did was explain the concept for those who are too dense to get past the idea that anyone thinks it creates more or less daylight. I just don’t see where it’s that disruptive, and even if I did I don’t have any say in the matter. And since I don’t have any say in the matter, I didn’t impose my personal preference on anyone.

            Next up, quit your bitch’n and grow up! I don’t ask anyone to cloth me or feed me. My family is of the class that is paying for the care of others. The difference between us is that I’d rather pay my fair share to the Government so that they can help those less fortunate, rather than pay an insurance company so that they can pay their CEO 10 million a year for denying coverage to people. I don’t approve of people that are lazy or expect the government to do it all for them any more than you, but I do recognize that more people than not are never going to be wealthy, or even upper middle class. A large portion of our citizenry, no matter how hard they try will always need help when times are tough. That’s just how it is, even for conservatives.

    • Aix Sponsa

      That’s the point. If there is nothing worth writing about, do something to stir something up. :-) I still vote for always summer clock time.

  • Steve Cervenec

    Years and years ago, I read where a reporter asked an American Indian if he understood daylight savings time. The reply was ‘Of course. It’s just like cutting one inch off a blanket and sewing it on the other end.’

  • Deborah

    I love Daylight Savings Time and wish we had it all year long. Getting off work at 5:00 to complete darkness depresses me greatly. I don’t mind it being dark in the mornings so much.

    • DaveH

      Some people like to wake up early in the morning, others like to sleep in. Don’t impose your personal choices on other people through Big Government please.

      • http://deleted Claire

        I get up every morning between 4:30 and 5:00–doesn’t bother me. I have been on this schedule for many years. I will admit I like the daylight when I leave work at 5:00 p.m.

    • Carlucci

      A few years ago I worked in an office where two other employees hated driving home in the dark during the Fall/Winter months. It was no problem for me as I just lived five minutes away from the office. They wanted a thirty minute lunch break instead of an hour during those months, and then when the time changed back, the lunch break would go back to an hour. This was not my choice as I liked going home at lunch for fifty minutes. Of course I was outvoted. Guess what? When the spring/summer months returned, the owner decided he liked that thirty minute thing and it became a rule. He wanted everyone to stay in the office all day long, including the lunch break. I felt like I was being held hostage and finally left.

      • Scott Johnson

        Take a bag lunch like most of the rest of us. An hour for lunch. Be real.

    • Michael J.

      Deborah,
      Buy a Jet and fly westward. By making strategic stops, you can avoid darkness altogether.

      • Dan az

        MJ
        That sure would make for a long day!You may have something there eternal life!lol!

  • B. Holmes

    It seems that God is still in charge of daylight/dark. The hours should remain the same whatever we do to our clocke. Saturday night when we change our clocks, be reminded of how brillian Congress is. They think they’re saving daylight.

    • momplayer1954

      It’s their God complex.

  • CAllen Doudna

    In Newfoundland, Central Australia, Afghanistan, and several Pacific islands they keep their clocks a half-hour ahead year-round. That gives an extra half-hour of daylight in the evening and it’s not too dark in the morning and they don’t have to change back and forth. States like Indiana and Nebraska could turn their clocks a half hour toward each other and be in the same timezone.

  • Bob

    I’m from Arizona, and it is true we do not observe Daylight Time. I don’t know who started calling it ‘stupid’ but I think it is just the opposite. In fact, I support changing it to Daylight Time year round. More time in the evening when people aren’t working to enjoy daylight. Many advantages. I can’t think of a single downside.

    • DaveH

      People, who think as you do, should just lobby their bosses to change their work hours, instead of trying to force their personal preferences on the rest of us.

    • Aix Sponsa

      AMEN. Children and most adults will adjust in a couple days. Viva la continuous DST.

      • DaveH

        That would be better than changing every year, Aix, but not as good as just letting the interested people adjust their own work schedules to their own preferences and leave the rest of us alone.

  • http://www.personalliberty.com Dillon

    Only Congress can cut off bottom of blanket,sew it to top of blanket and think they has a longer blanket!!

    • Andee

      Love this comment…how true…everything they do turns out to be a piece of whatever but not good.

  • astrojohn

    Does ANYBODY think DST for 8 months makes any sense at all? Six months, debatable, 8 months is lunacy…Oh yeah, I’m an astronomer – DST=LESS DARKNESS at reasonable hours…thanks, Congress…

  • http://personallibertydigest Dana PA

    I have one of those darn clocks that changes the time, bought before 2007 when they messed with the time again, by the way I am not one to go out and spend money I do not have. So I have to set it 4 times a year instead of doing it manually 2 times a year. I am a firm believer that we need to just forget about DST and leave nature to nature. So here in the North of USA the sky is still light at 10 at night, more time for the thugs to go about the business of doing what they should not be doing. Gov. is always into things that is none of their business, time for Gov. to just “STOP IT”
    Just saying.

    • Carlucci

      I don’t even change my car clock anymore because it is a hassle. So, for months it shows one hour ahead. Scares the heck out of people who are driving with me.

      • Michael J.

        Carlucci,
        I agree that changing clocks is a hassle. I have two wrist watches, when time changes I wear the other watch.
        In my truck I have a compass/sundial. The compass keeps the sundial oriented north and is solar powered with Ni-Cad battery back-up so I can read the digital LCD display in the dark.

    • Aix Sponsa

      WOW, right. I never thought of that. Just eliminate clocks all together. Work when it is light, sleep when it is dark. That is simple.

  • DaveH

    That’s so funny, Chip Wood, because I was just thinking two days ago about how ridiculous Daylight Savings is, and how it is a great example of Government setting up absurd hoops for the citizens to jump through.

  • Deanna

    I hate Daylight Savings Time. My body NEVER gets used to getting up an hour earlier in the morning. (When 5:30am becomes 4:30am, my body KNOWS the difference!) If Congress likes an extra hour of daylight at the end of the day, fine. But let’s just choose the “time” we want and stick with it. This switching back and forth is not healthy for our bodies.

    • DaveH

      I agree, Deanna. As evidence, it has long been known that more heart attacks occur on Mondays, than any other day of the week. Why is that? I think because people sleep in on the weekends, and then must change their body rhythms come monday to the shock of waking up early.
      http://www.wisegeek.com/do-more-people-have-heart-attacks-on-mondays.htm

      • Michael J.

        You might be right Dave, But I believe that at least some Monday morning heart attacks may be attributed to the random Saturday night passing of another of Obama’s “Death to the Economy” bills in the Senate.

    • Aix Sponsa

      TURN OFF YOUR TV AND GO TO SLEEP. 99.8% of people’s lives are geared around that addictive TV and the news. When I briefly worked out east, people stayed up to watch the 11:00 news and were tired all day.

      • Michael J.

        Aix Sponsa,
        I inadvertently cured my TV addiction recently. The new TV I purchased is too large to fit in the syringe.

  • mouse

    It does not matter where you turn the hands of the clock — you still only have a certain number of hours of daylight and a certain number of hours of night —
    Yes if you do want extra daylight go to the north pole or for the night owls in summer time go to the south pole –
    OTHERWISE LEAVE THE SILLY CLOCK ALONE !!!!

  • http://www.personalliberty.com Jeff

    Chip – I love most of your stuff but this one is off base. First off, we are not changing “natures clock” – time is an artificial counter created by man, not god, so who cares what we want to use? I work in an office for 10 to 12 hrs a day since our company laid off people and is asking those remaining to carry the extra load. All winter long I go to work in the dark & get home in the dark – only see real daylight on weekends – rather depressing! Not only do I look forward to DST, I wish it was all year so I can actually get home in daylight and feel slightly more human/alive than our current regime. The farmers don’t need the change anymore but some of us do. Don’t push to get rid of DST, rather push to have it all year long!

    • DaveH

      There are people and industries across the country who like daylight savings, and others who don’t like daylight savings.
      The issue is, should Big Government be involved in forcing one group’s policy on everybody? I say no. It’s time we get back to the concepts of Freedom.

  • Lomax

    I wasn’t around during the depression but I arrived shortly after, or on the very tail end. I don’t remember daylight savings time before the middle 1950s. I was working on a farm at the time and many of the farmers in our area resisted it and tried to just operate on standard time but over time it became to much of a hassle. They go to work early in the morning and don’t quit until it is dark if that is the need anyway.

  • Dennis Patrick

    Yes, folks – it is a commie plot designed to embarass people on Sunday who show up to church service at the wrong time. It also allows the commies to laugh at people and feel superior. What a plot Chiphead has uncovered!

    • DaveH

      No plot — just Pompous Politicians pretending to be important.

  • bob wire

    Well the notion of moving time back started with the likes of Ben Franklin, when the world was driven by draft animals and whale oil.

    When it cost to light up the night and it wasn’t that easy to do. When daylight hour were precious and to be taken full advantage of.

    It’s of lesser importance today then it originally was.

    • SR

      Farmers have never farmed by the clock! Franklin played a lot of jokes on people.

      The sun is a very reliable time piece. It’s what farmers always used.

    • bob wire

      True , but we once lived in an agricultural society when farmer were common and held in high regard and someone worth knowing. ~ Where business owners might adjust their store hours to serve him.

      And people depended on their own personal gardens for food on their table and to sale and trade much like their hen eggs and milk and cream.

      All Agricultural society move with the sun, they must! ~ I’ve see my family plowing into the night, but it’s not a habit. ~ Evening time on the farm is a busy time getting everything gathered up,counted, secured,watered and fed.

  • ChrisH

    Just remember who signed the new DST into law. G.W.Bush our smartest president!

    • Ruby

      Well…we forget that W is to blame for EVERYTHING!

      Who was the biggest supporter and who pushed REAL hard for this to happen (I still remember seeing the news coverage)? None other than Uncle Teddy (Kennedy).

    • Jennie

      Wow, I didn’t know that GWB signed DST into law. Was he President in the mid 1950′s? Why, he couldn’t have been more than eight or ten at the time. That’s was when it started, Chris!

      • DaveH

        He’s talking about the latest change in DST, Jennie. See my comment below.

      • ChrisH

        I said “NEW” DST law. You remember way back in 2007,Jennie.

    • DaveH

      And guess which party was in control of Congress when the “Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007″ was passed?
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Independence_and_Security_Act_of_2007

    • Average Joe

      Actually, I believe that congress writes the laws and if passed by both houses, it goes to the president for his signature. At least that’s how things are done according to the Constitution. I get so tired of people blaming the president ( bith sides) instead of looking at the main culprits…congress and the senate…or to put it bluntly…all 535 people in Washington D.C…….They are all to blame….period!

      • DaveH

        It’s much easier for people to pick one scapegoat.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Average Joe:

        The House and the Senate = the Congress.

        Bush could have VETOED toe energy bill until it met his standards – remove the light bulb nonsense.

        However, Bushie was / is a Big Brother Government boy. He is just another elitist Washington type. However! He does have a birth certificate.

    • Aix Sponsa

      What a mistake. He should have made summer-clock-time last all year long.

  • Dean Yount

    The name “daylight savings time” implies that by turning our clocks up an hour in the spring, we have an hour more daylight and an hour less darkness. How dumb can we be. How about keeping the clocks on real time and then just get up an hour earlier and go to bed an hour earlier? Dean Yount

    • DaveH

      What? Freedom of Choice? But then what would our Congressmen do?

    • Aix Sponsa

      Dean, did you your misinformation from a public school or from your parents?

      • DaveH

        Can you be specific, Aix?

        • Aix Sponsa

          sorry, i think i misread what you wrote. :-)

      • Randy G

        Your stupidity is ________ (Fill in the Blank)

  • Elvira

    Want to know the real reason congress loves this time change BS. Most of these idiots are lawyers and they want that extra hour in the evening so they can go to the golf course and play with their balls.
    Meanwhile, the whole country is about to suffer the same fate as the Hindenburg dirigible, crash and burn!

    • Aix Sponsa

      There is a lot to be said about playing with balls in the afternoon.

  • bob wire

    If you was a farmer or if you held any concerns for a farmer and the need for abundance your perception could well change.

  • http://comcast.net PRESTON W.ATHEY

    Sound like the Goverment can do what they want and when they want.screw! We The People.Surprise they have’nt found a way to tax it yet.

  • JR

    A little bit of research would have spared the author the embarrassment of going off on a rant and hate tirade that have no factual background.

    If he would have done the research he would have found that it had nothing to do with communist…although I have to admit, nothing sets this board off more then to claim either communist or Muslim are the cause for something…
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Daylight saving time (DST)—also summer time in British English and European official terminology respectively (see Terminology)—is the practice of temporarily advancing clocks during the summertime so that afternoons have more daylight and mornings have less. Typically clocks are adjusted forward one hour near the start of spring and are adjusted backward in autumn.[1] Modern DST was first proposed in 1895 by George Vernon Hudson.[2] Many countries have used it since then; details vary by location and change occasionally.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    There you got it, no conspiracy, no communist take over, nothing to do with the first depression and all to do with getting every bid of work out of a worker and saving a penny on gas (the main way to light a building and workplace at that time) during the industrial revolution in jolly old England.

    • DaveH

      You could have just linked to the article, or at the least acknowledge the source that you copied from.

  • Larry

    Chip, I too think changing the clocks twice a year is pure lunacy, and I absolutely hate it. Because of the time change and congress extending it, none of my VCRs or DVD Recorders change to and from Daylight Savings Time when they’re supposed to anymore. I also wonder if any of the brains in congress ever did a study on the increase in accidents it causes. I screws up my biological clock and takes me a week to re-adjust. During that period of adjustment (twice a year), I’m feeling sleep deprived, sluggish, less focused, more accident prone, and not near as alert. These symptoms surely make me more of a hazard when I’m on the road, and less productive at work. For the people who say the time change is beneficial to their comfort at work (or their safety), you don’t need to change the time on your clock to start the work day an hour earlier (or an hour later).

  • Bill W

    Split the difference (30 min.) and stay the same time all year long.

    • Aix Sponsa

      ? Trouble is, the actual “light” problem is only shifted by 1/2 of the time-zone. Solves nothing, just relocates the problem a few hundred miles westward…. sort of like a democrat solution would do.

  • JudyG

    Fifteen hours of daylight is fifteen hours of daylight. If you get up at 6, you get up at six and work til sunset, you work til sunset!!!! Studies show that DST is the reason for more heart attacks for weeks after the clocks are pushed ahead, and causes even more sleep deprivation.

    Abolish DST!!!! Arizona does not participate in DST and they’re doing just fine!!! DST is irrelevant anymore today…farming is done more and more outside our country, remember?!? Sheesh!

    I’m sure more and more people would like it done away with.

  • SR

    You may want to look to none other than Benjamin Franklin for the wonderful idea of daylight savings time. I believe it was meant as a joke… Maybe? It was to give the Farmers more daylight! Congress bought it hook line and sinker, and maybe the pole as well.

    I suggest we start daylight savings time on March 1 of each year and return to standard time on Feb 29.

    • Average Joe

      I suggest we start daylight savings time on March 1 of each year and return to standard time on Feb 29.

      lol, sounds like a plan to me.

      • Andee

        What? Why not start it the last day of February and end it March 1 of the same year? My old body and stock would like it a lot better.

        • Average Joe

          Andy,
          If you actually read the comment, you would realize that Feb. 29 only comes every 4 years…not every year.So, the time would only change……never. :)

  • http://alancooper@gmail.com Alan Cooper

    After reading all of the responses, I can speak on for Wisconsin, since I was raised there and spent most of my life there. The real reason FDR did DST was to help three causes and thereby get votes later on: softball leagues, Little League Baseball, and mens/womens golf clubs/leagues/activities. Because most of the courses and ball parks did not have lights, the extra hour was needed to give participants more time to play the games, socialize, and take their minds off the Depression; let me clue you in: Wisconsin’s dairy farmers did NOT like DST as they started milking early in the morning. There may have been other reasons, like school children getting off busses, these are the main ones Wisconsin signed on.

  • Jennie

    I don’t think Congress or virtually anyone else in Washington cares a bit about the rest of the country. Children plunged back into the dark when it’s time to go to school? . . . . . . politicians don’t care. Those same children unable to go to sleep in the fall? . . . no big deal to the leaders and shakers in Washington. They have more important things to do, like figuring out more ways to raise our taxes, force us to use government insurance (which isn’t worth a sh**), bring the whole population to a welfare state as quickly as possible so they can dictate to us everything that we can and cannot do and have? Sky high gasoline??? What’s not to like?

  • http://alancooper@gmail.com Alan Cooper

    I just remembered; I coached Little League baseball for 15 years and back then, we played 2 games M-F evenings and back then the parks were NOT lighted. So four teams got to play each nite and without DST, it could not happen. Now, most softball parks have lights, and if Little League and soccer parks were lit up, then only the golfers are left? ALSO, many after-supper boaters like the extra hour in Wisconsin and Minnesota’s many lakes.

  • Ruby

    Ever try to coordinate a meeting with global partners that do or don’t participate in DST during the extra month instituted in 2007? Near impossible. The world clock is a bit confusing anyway, but during that time, it’s very confusing.

    http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

  • Jennie

    Why do people think DST produces more daylight? We can say it’s whatever time we want it to be but, WE CANNOT PRODUCE MORE DAYLIGHT!!!

    • Average Joe

      Because some things in life require critical thinking, which unfortunately a large percentage of the world population are incapable of doing…..

  • Barbara

    I never did know a farmer who worked by the clock. He is usually up before the sun and finished working after the sun goes down.
    Daylight stupid time is dangerous, instead of the kids going to school in the daylight they have to go to school in the dark. So much for safety.

    • DaveH

      That’s how my farmer relatives did it, Barbara. They woke up when the sun was rising, not by a clock.

  • jopa

    If it helps the farmer great and it is good for all of us.If the farmer wins we win if the farmer loses we lose except for the ones paid not to farm and the ones paid for ethanol corn production.Those two we all lose.

  • Silver Fang

    I didn’t mind DST the way it was in the 80s, which I grew up with. The switch to having it in October and April four years ago pisses me off.

  • bill

    The kids are only in the lighter times for a very short time and then it’s dark again for the rest of the winter. AND they come home in the dark often thanks to the time change. It should be left alone; as soon as it changes in the spring never change it again. You are right though farmers work dark to dark and then some.

    • DaveH

      I say position the Time Zones as close as possible to Noon being when the sun is in the middle of the sky, and leave it alone. No seasonal changes. If particular industries or groups have need for longer daylight hours, they can adjust their start times accordingly. Government should butt out.

      • David

        Amen! That, of course, was the original intent of Time Zones in the first place. In some areas that idea was imperfectly instituted (Michigan, for example) but it was the idea. Some countries that were almost exactly 1 zone in size adopted standard times that kept the entire country on one time (with Solar noon at 1200 at the center of the zone) and that is why there exist zones on 1/2 hour or 1/4 hour boundaries.

  • ChrisH

    I said the “NEW” DST law. You remember all the way back in 2007 Jennie

  • Glenn Portwood

    I don’t care who started it. I just like the extra hour of daylight in the evening. I don’t care if it is daylight an hour or two before I wake up. I want the daylight in the evening when I can get something done. I think we should shift to permanent DST.

    • DaveH

      Lobby your employer to make the start times earlier. If not enough people in the company agree, accept that.

      • DaveH

        Or start your own business so you can set your own hours.

    • Barbara

      If you want to get up at 5 AM go for it. I don’t.

  • Ubique

    Sure destroys the credibility of Chip Wood, not doing the homework of checking out the validity of his assertions on the origin of daylight savings time. Don’t we need a better nickname for him than ‘CHIP?’
    Peckerwood? Stump? Blockhead?

    • Bitter Libertarian

      Name calling pretty much discredits your complaint.

    • bob wire

      Lol! maybe so, ~ but that’s okay, ~ This is an old issue and been gone thu many times in the past and I’m sure will continue.

      The part I hated worst of all is to seeing small children out in the dark, wait for a bus. As once a father of small ones, I think not only these small ones but their parents. It worried me to death back then. I didn’t like the position we were forced into to comply and greatly resented it.

    • DaveH

      And it illustrates your lack of reading skills.
      Chip said “It all began back in the dark days of the Great Depression, I’m told”.
      You get that? — I’m told. He didn’t claim to know for certain the actual origins.
      It would have been better, for sure, if Chip nailed down the facts a little tighter, given the certainty that there are always Liberals lurking on the board looking for any chance to pounce on him, or anyone else who dares to question the motives or efficacy of their Freedom-Stealing policies.

      • Jeb

        So Dave continues to defend a factually inaccurate article and still has the gall to call out liberals for presenting the facts. I agree with John in that there are greater issues than this facing our country.

        • DaveH

          Apparently, Jeb, you also have a reading comprehension problem. Read my comment. I wasn’t defending Chip’s “facts”.

          • Jeb

            I’m sorry DaveH, you are correct. You are just defending Chip Wood and his factually inaccurate article while blasting “liberals”. Please continue to White Knight an article that has nothing to do with facts.

            DaveH says:
            March 11, 2011 at 9:13 am
            Ryan Liberally sprinkles his comment with personal insults to Chip, and then has the gall to talk about Chip’s lack of Objective Analysis.
            Typical Liberal.

            DaveH says:
            March 11, 2011 at 8:16 am
            That’s so funny, Chip Wood, because I was just thinking two days ago about how ridiculous Daylight Savings is, and how it is a great example of Government setting up absurd hoops for the citizens to jump through.

          • DaveH

            And those comments somehow mean to you that I was supporting Chip’s statement of the origins of DST?
            Like I said, you need a reading comprehension course, badly.

          • DaveH

            By the way, Jeb, if you go back to the very first comment I posted (third from the top), you will see a link that I posted which contradicts Chip’s timeline. I realize it will be a challenge for you to pick the link and read the article.

    • bob wire

      I believe Chip knows , he’s a writer and and his job is to throw people something to chew on. Like placing something new in the monkey cage and see how they react to it.

      It’s fun, even I ask questions that I know the answer to at time.

      I sometimes throw out bait and wait to see who strikes it.

      Chip Woods does the same thing, all writers do. It’s fun and a way to develop your skills, understand people offer your own spin or correct spin.

      These writers , write to an audience , a selective audience. They have intent, purpose and something to sale.

  • Larry

    I’m retired, get up when I want go to sleep when I want. Don’t even look at the clock. Doesn’t bother me at all

    • Average Joe

      Same here…isn’t it wonderful?…My body is my clock….it tells me when I am tired and when I’m not. It tells me when I am hungry or thirsty…heck, it even tells me when I need to hit the john…..What more does an man need?

      Time is an illusion…the only time that actually exists….is…now….and putting a number on it makes no difference.

  • http://com i41

    Just shows what what the beltway bastards don’t know a damn thing about what goes on in real life. The smucks like the marxist muslim moron is sure showing FDR was at best Onumnutts lite. This phony cross bred jackass and his smuck democrat crimminal bastards have finally almost finished the job of destroying the USA. Betwwen their massive debt piling up, that they keep putting on later generations. Shows the elit college book training and their “experts” that they think know the answers. Only will with God’ grace, still be a USA in 2 generations. This DST shows how dumb people of the USA really are. If you want to go play pasture pool, get your sorry azzes out of bed earlier, just more pusified idoit who can not think for them selves. The crap about kids getting off and off of buses in the dark moving ythe hands of a clock doesn’t change a damn thing, or save any fuel!

    • bob wire

      “The crap about kids getting off and off of buses in the dark moving the hands of a clock doesn’t change a damn thing, or save any fuel!”

      Well, here we go with the fight between dominion and free will. The notion of who and what is best served for some greater good.

      When it comes to children, I’ll be in your eyes like onions. We lose a few children between home and school every year. I know personally of some, don’t make me think mean on you.

      Don’t attempt to make light of someone else serious concerns while holding no responsibility, liability or commitment.

    • Dennis Patrick

      More hate from our favorite racist & anti-Semitic. i41 – since you seem to hate most people here, would you please leave this country now!

    • Average Joe

      Such language from a supposedly winning adventurer…..

      • Jana

        At least i41 isn’t prejudiced, he seems to hate everyone the same.

  • CJM

    I have never liked DST, even when growing up. It is a waste of time; as for saving $ because it somehow displaces greater use on utilities (especially electricity) is about the dumbest reasoning ever heard of (with one exception: a past governor of SC who had the license plates changed because they were ‘running out of numbers.’ No one bothered to tell him the same problem would exist when the new state motto would read ‘smiling places, smiling faces’). DST was invented for the businessmen of the day because they were too lazy to adjust their store hours to accommodate the changing seasons. We need to get rid of DST once and for all.

  • Ted Crawford

    With all the problems we must deal with in this country, let alone the world, who the HE!! cares about this?

    • DaveH

      It matters because it is yet another example of the mindless obstacles that Government throws in our way as if we were their pets to train instead of Free People!
      For Individual Liberty, Personal Responsibility, Free Markets, and Limited Government — Vote Libertarian.
      http://libertarianparty.org/platform

      • bob wire

        So who shinning the brightest among libertarian hopefuls for 2012 Dave?

        Wouldn’t it be grand to bring forward a serious contender?

        I’m beginning to believe we do need to seriously rethink the role of government and what it has became.

        but I see so many obstacles, it seems to be a hopeless endeavor.

        I want to say look to those that have gone before, how did they do it?

        I’m wanting to say any attempt to reinvent the wheel is a waste of time,

        but is it?

        • Average Joe

          Maybe we don’t so much need to re-invent the wheel, but rather….we need to get better bearings and representatives who will maintain the bearings better….to keep them functioning properly….just a thought.

        • ChrisH

          Bring the Wigs back.

        • DaveH

          The thing is Bob that they do put up valid contenders every election. But there is one problem with Libertarians — they aren’t willing to tell the people what they want to hear. We can’t stop drug usage. We can’t stop people from gambling or sleeping with prostitutes. We can’t give everybody the lifestyle of their choice. People must do those things for themselves.
          So we have a very uphill battle against those Politicians who lie and say they can. Of course, they never really deliver, but hey, we still have our Hopes and Dreams.

  • Buddy

    Actually, changing one’s schedule by an hour, overnight, is detrimental to one’s body. Fortunately, I work in a two person business so can take a couple of weeks to make the time adjustment.

    I have talked to a number of people about daylight “savings” time. Many don’t like it but many others enjoy the extended daylight into the evening. Thus, it would seem best to leave it up to individuals and small organizations to make whatever change is wanted. In a mega-country, we collectively need to coordinate with each other. However, the time-jumps are just bad for individuals. On the other hand, such changes may benefit the collective . – But even then, we can’t be sure of that.

    I recall that during the “oil embargo” of the 1970s, the Jimmy Carter administration had to do something, so they made daylight savings time an all year event. It seemed to save some energy in eastern states, but wasted some energy in central and western states, so the whole thing was at best a wash. But, that administration did do something even though ineffective. I also recall that the darkness in the winter caused a greater number of accidents than otherwise (including some deaths). An example of your tax dollars at work.

  • American Citizen

    There is really no such thing as Daylight Saving Time. There are only so many hours of daylight, no matter what we do to the clocks. It’s like cutting off one end of the blanket and sewing it on to the other end. I utterly despise DST as we here in Indiana go on double DST. Years ago the whole state was on Central Time, then about 30 years or so ago, we were put on EST moving us ahead an hour. Now on DST we go another hour ahead. It’s ludicrous for it to be light until 10 PM. And the sun doesn’t come up until 8 AM. There have been a couple of school children killed because of this stupid maneuver. They have to go to school in the dark practically year round. Plus, we have to burn more electricity in the morning. I absolutely, utterly despise DST.

  • Earl Edwards

    I haven’t read through all the comments so I apologize if I reiterate something here. Chip is wrong on AZ and its DST history.

    As a kid in AZ, I seem to recall that the legislature sometimes voted yearly if it was or was not going to follow DST. So, there were years we were on DST, others we weren’t. Then, when they decided to remain on Mountain Standard Time, there were the squabbles over it prior to the vote.

  • john

    I usually agree with what Chip Wood has to say but this time I have to say I don’t. What is so bad about having a little extra time when I get off work to do the things I don’t have time or the ability to do in the morning before work (because it’s dark)You know like tend to that garden so many on this website have recommended.

    • DaveH

      Nothing is bad about that (enjoying the extra daylight), John. What is bad, though, is when interested groups get together and force their pet likes and dislikes on the rest of us through Big Government.

      • john

        Dave I agree the government is way to involved with our daily lives. However I really think there are far bigger issues than daylight savings time to be dealt with. If this is the biggest problem the government is causing it’s citizens we should all celebrate!

        • Buddy

          John:

          This is not the biggest problem which the people in government have to address. However, it is a symptom of what we all need to address. That is, we need to address government lawmakers who make mandates which have unforeseen consequences. Most government lawmakers are lawyers who in general have very little background in things other than laws and regulations.

          • john

            Buddy you are not telling me anything I don’t already know. That said if this is the biggest problem our government is creating in your day to day life you should consider yourself quite lucky.

        • DaveH

          So, John, say your phone company wants to double your bill. You don’t resist that, just because it isn’t your biggest problem?

          • john

            Boy talk about comparing apples to oranges. How does making you reset your clock twice a year equate to doubling the cost of something. I think all of you need a little reality check. STOP whining about a trivial little item that takes maybe 5 minutes out of your life. You have spent more time crying about this than what you spent adjusting your clock. Our Federal government is trying to pass a budget that has a 1.6 trillion dollar deficit and you guys are worrying about daylight savings time. No wonder this country is so screwed up!

          • DaveH

            Because Government with all their myriad nitpicking little rules adds up to about $6 Trillion expenditures in this country. No minor item, by itself, costs much. But when you add them all together you get spending totals and debt that do matter (a lot more than the phone bill example). They matter to us and they matter to our children who didn’t even get a vote in the matter, yet are on the hook for the bill.
            You call it mixing Apples and Oranges, but I call it Theft on a Grand Scale.

  • chuckb

    as usual it was initiated by the democrats, anything to keep things screwed up.

  • Rick TX

    I remember from my schooling that Ben Franklin first came up with DST, but that was in the 50′s & 60′s. History is always being rewritten in our school books.
    The agricultural society that we were then involved, they needed the light in the evening more than the morning time. When we became industrialized, and electric lights on farming equipment came about, it became no longer needed.

    • bob wire

      Well, that’s still a popular take on the story. It wasn’t really Franklin’s idea so much as he borrowed it from his travels of Europe and brought the idea to the Americas, he implemented it.

      In any case we are stuck with it!

      What we need is a time piece that is used by all that makes this adjustment in much smaller increments of time, there by avoiding the whip lash effect of being jerked around one hour and more in tune with natures natural metered count.

      Someone make one and be our hero! The task is easy enough to do, the hard part would be selling the idea as a accepted standard and phasing the system into service. Or there to be two times, ZOLU time a World Standard (Grenage Means Time) and Regional time.

    • JLC

      Rick TX — 50′s and 60′s? In what century? Where did you go to school?

  • Average Joe

    The last time I checked, there are still only 24 hours in a day…no matter what time you set your clocks for….it will change nothing about that single, but quite obvious fact….
    As stated by Chip….our government in all of it’s infinite wisdom can always come up with some completely lame excuse for just about anything they do to us…..BTW, it was Benjamine Franklin that first came up with the idea for the time changes….however, our congress at that time was infinitely more intelligent and wise than those who hold the distinction of being labeled “Congress” today and did not implement the time changes.

    Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.
    Douglas Adams

  • Janet

    I despise DST; it sure messes with a person’s inner clock and when
    we switch back it ‘feels’ so good to me.

  • patriotdynamite

    Oorah Chip I agree!!! The government screws up everything. As a former resident of Arizona I sure do miss my time there. I am in one of the lunacy states now, NM USA that embraces every kooky congressional program and idea.

  • Charles B

    Daylight savings Time does neither. So we do we keep this way out of date and stupid program of turning clocks 1 hour forward or backward every year. I was started Because of WW1 by my illustrious cousin Woodrow Wilson. Supposedly to give us more play time at night. I for one don’t like it. WAIT! I hate it. we don’t need anymore. If we keep it then let’s change the swaps to winter instead of summer.

  • Todd ephart

    Day Light savings time was NOT introduced by congress you idiots!! Ben Franklin introduced it retards!! Make sure you do your research before you post articles you have NO clue about what your saying!! I’m very close to taking my email off your mailing list because of IDIOTS stating articlesthat aren’t true aout congress!! Now get your shit right!!! Thank You!!

  • Robert Hauser

    I don’t know about the remainder of the country but I do know that that over-funded and overpaid circle-jerk in Sacramento known as the California State legislature expanded daylight slaving time for us here in the Yellow State so that we have it damned near year ’round….Sacramento is one place I would not mind observing as it went up in an immense ball of the flaming methane and hydrogen sulfide of its own legislative flatulence.

  • Michael

    So many interesting comments! Personally, I love DST! I wish we would stay on it year round. I like the longer daylight time at night. Reminds me of home, Hawaii. The kids enjoy it more, being able to get to school in daylight and have more time to play before coming in. Constructions workers like it better, commuters like it better, farmers like it better (we still have a lot of farmers in the area I live in now.) In fact, I don’t know of anyone who doesn’t like it, which is why I’m surprised by all the posts against it. I wouldn’t mind if they turned on DST and left it permanently!

    One of the best posts I read was from usfrog, “If countries around the world have adopted it, chances are it’s not just because of Congress!” He or she has got a pretty good point there. Congress certainly didn’t make other countries follow suit. Not that I like defending the crooked idiots in Congress, but I can’t see they get the blame for the world wanting more daylight in their work hours. Blame the people who said a workday should be 8 to 5 rather than 9 to 6.

    • David

      I think you really meant to say “Blame the people who said a workday should be 8 to 5 rather than 7 to 4.” Moving the clock ahead one hour for DST makes what is now 0800 (under DST) the same time that 0700 was (under Standard time); everything happens an hour earlier than it would have. (Personally, I would have liked a workday of 1000 to 1900. With “Flex Time” at my place of work, I actually did work those hours.)

  • Kathryn

    It seems to me that arguing about history and politics is missing the point. DST seems a very unhealthy situation to me. I am thrown off my pace for at least three weeks with each change and I worry very much about the children standing at school bus stops in the dark. I think sexual predators must love DST. If DST was ever useful, that certainly is the case no longer. It is a dinosaur of an idea that is unhealthy for us at best and dangerous to children at worst. I also read somewhere that there is no proof it saves any energy money. I am not sure of the truth of that one, but I know it wastes a lot of human energy and time.
    Is there anyone out there that could start a petition to our beloved representatives in Washingtron to abolish DST? That would be the point. It would also give our representatives something rather benign to work on since they are avoiding addressing the real substantial issues.
    It is a good idea to get rid of DST once and for all.

  • mark

    I love Daylight Savings Time. I live in FLorida and it is nice to be able to get off work at 5PM and play a round of golf at our Municple Golf Course. Life is for enjoymnet not trying to see how much money you can make!

  • CEBERW

    “If you think all of this can be difficult to keep straight”

    Then you are dumb as a stick.

  • R Roddy

    If the farmers needed more daylight, why didn’t they just get up and hour earlier???

    Glad I’m a 4th Gen AZ native. We don’t like anyone telling us what to do.

    and by the way, we did try DST at least one year in the beginning. It was a bummer to go to the Drive In Movies — they didn’t start until 10pm – and it ws still hot.

  • Terry Larson

    Very interesting responses to man’s sttempt to control the distribution of daylight hours throughout the world. Man, being man, has difficulty in coming to any universal agreement on such matters.

    What is going to happen when man will have the ability to either slow down or speed up the rotation rate of the world? I’m sure it will cause a lot more disagreement then the the problem of daylight saving time. How long should a day be, 20 hours, 32 hours and fifteen minutes, or what?

  • Doug Fulton

    I love Daylight Savings Time. I am so thankful for an extra hour of daylight after work to spend time outside with my children. Out of all the things that are wrong with our country today I am surprised that you chose to write about this issue.

  • JeffH

    •On March 19, 1918, the U.S. put into effect an act “to preserve daylight and provide standard time for the United States.” This plan established standard time zones across the country and set Daylight Savings Time to begin on March 31, 1918 and run for seven months. The process was repeated in 1919.
    •After World War I ended, the law was repealed due to its being incredibly unpopular. Only some states and major cities continued to use DST.
    •During WWII, President Roosevelt put DST into effect year-round to save money. He called it “War Time.”
    •From the end of WWII to 1966, there was no federal regulation on DST, and it was left up to local municipalities to decide whether they wanted to keep it or not.
    http://answers.yourdictionary.com/technology/inventions/who-invented-daylight-savings-time.html

    • Johnny

      Standard time zones had been is use since 1883, when the railroads in Canada and the U.S.A. began the practice so that passengers changing from one road to another would know, for certain, what time the connecting train left. These zones were observed by the railroads–and intelligent people in various places realized that if they were to be a part of the outside world they should use them also.

      • Bud Offutt

        Jonny, Are you used the right word, “intelligent people”?

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Naomi

    Thank God, I’m not the only one who has been enraged by this stupidity of all time. We have been told for years that we and our children are sleep deprived. And finally research has come to light how vital sleep is for health, and our ability to function well. Why do we need to be told what time to get up? From spring to early autumn the days are more than long enough for people to leave their jobs during daylight hours. Even when I was younger it was difficult to adjust, but the older you become the harder it is. For those who have no problem with it, fine, but, the argument you use isn’t valid. Now, they’ve extended it, so that come fall, children and adults are getting up in the dark, having to put on lights, which was the argument for extending DST (saving energy)! Riigghht!! So now we’re using more electricity. Please someone, anyone, can’t we change these moronic legislators?!!!! And their stupid rotten laws and regulations??

  • Aix Sponsa

    Well I have had enough fun for today. Amazing how we can get so excited about something as mundane as the time change. Got we all need to “get a life”, LOL. Thanks for the opinions. I appreciate you all.

  • Johnny

    Why not go back to observing a standard time that is no more than 30 minutes out from local mean sun time? This, of course, would require shifting time zone boundaries back to approximately where they were at the adoption of standard time zones–and most of Florida would be in the Central Time Zone, along with most of Ohio and all of Michigan. (The greatest shift has been between the Eastern and Central time zones.)

    A comparison to adopting “Daylight Savig Time:” Your blanket is not long enough to cover you from head to toe, so you cut a strip off the bottom end and sew it to the top end–and it is still not long enough to cover you from head to toe.

  • Aix Sponsa

    Oh, by the way. Excessive electricity useage is not about keeping your lights on in your house an extra hour. It is about the excessive lighting EVERYWHERE. In the near future, rotating blackouts will be the normal American way.

    Ditch incandescents. Use LEDS, and TURN OFF THE LIGHTS when you go out of a room.

    • DaveH

      I like LEDs, but at present they are too expensive for the equivalent amount of light. Regardless of my personal likes, we should not have a Government that wants to sheltor us from every mistake. People don’t learn when they are under the illusion that somebody will protect them from their own mistakes.
      Besides that, the Government is spending far more of our money than they are saving us. Over 40% of our GDP to be exact. How many of you would voluntarily give them 40% of your earnings in exchange for what they give you? I sure wouldn’t.

      • Aix Sponsa

        The words Government and SAVE should not appear in the same sentence. Government only “costs”. Without taking, the government, at any level, cannot give.

        • Vigilant

          Correctamundo!

  • http://www.zimbatenolimits.com Betty-Jane Osborne

    I remember that at the time daylight savings came in AND the reason as you stated was to put the farmers in the fields longer during light hours of the day. Well HAHAHA farmers work from can see to can’t see and some used headlights on their tractors.

    • Dave

      Or until the job was done!

      • Dave

        This was often extended at the other end (“can’t see in the AM) by “getting up before the rooster!”

  • Bitter Libertarian

    “I don’t know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.” ~Bill Cosby

    IMHO that about sums up the debate about DST. ;)

  • bob wire

    I’ve been engaged with crafting and implementing EMS (energy management systems) for 25 years.

    We have came a long way in 25 years. It’s too lengthy to discuss in any detail. In the beginning I rejected it, it was new, unproven, time consuming and few wanted to pay for it. ~ I like to get paid well for things that make me reach. That was almost impossible in the beginning. Some of the early solar gathering devises was a joke, ~ the last thing a contractor needs to have is a bunch of “crap” in the field his service truck can find on it’s own.

    Frigidaire has came out with a AC system that “thinks”, inverter driven DC volt. ~ It peel off what you need, when and where you need it, controlling interior temp, humidity and IAQ. ~ rarely shuts down but throttles back to 5% before it does. There is no starting load draw. Savings? 60 to 65% of what a 12 SEER might offer. Amazing equipment, self diagnosing, history recording, you got it all at your finger tips. 10 year Warranty

    Want one?

    • bob wire

      oops! misplaced post, should have been under Dave

  • DaveH

    The Liberals are out in force on this one. They actually caught Chip in a factual error (for once) and are going to sit on that fence and crow until Daylight Savings brings the sun down.
    And they were right, Chip shouldn’t have called the politician who brought us Daylight Savings an “Idiot”. After all the politicians are doing what any normal Politician would do — building their power and taking more from the people. That certainly doesn’t make them Idiots. It may make Idiots out of the voters that put them there, though, but that’s beside the point.
    And have you noticed that we rarely can have a civil discussion. As soon as the Liberals appear, it must always devolve into personal attacks. The quandary is Why? It isn’t us forcing them to do something they don’t want to do. So why do they attack us so viciously? They are the forcers, yet they attack us as if we were.

  • Alfred E. Neuman

    What I don’t like about DST is personal. It takes me physically & psychologically up to a month & half to adapt to the change! Like most humans, I’m a creature of habit & ritual. For example, it now means going to sleep an hour earlier for the next six months so I still awaken at 6:00 a.m. which is now 7:00 p.m. because of the change. To me, it’s similar to jet lag & that usually takes a couple of days to get over, especially if you fly overseas. More than likely it has to do with “biorythms” & perhaps studies have been done about the effects of DST on the body, with no doubt, government grants! In retrospect, I would say there are a lot more issues to worry about than saving time, that commodity we all seem to have so little of, all the time!

  • Carol

    I’ve always thought it was stupid, even as a small child. In the morning I had to go to school before full daylight. Worse was having to go to bed while it was still full daylight. I see abslutely no reason to screw up all the times zones. I don’t change my vehicle clocks. Just have to remember to add an hour to the time.

  • DaveH

    Does Daylight Saving Time really save us Energy? Read this extensive report to find out:
    http://www2.bren.ucsb.edu/~kotchen/links/DSTpaper.pdf

    • bob wire

      I’m not sure if just energy savings is it’s purpose today.

      There been many reason offer for using DST.

      During WWII, the Fed, encouraged people to plant and grow “Victory Gardens” that’s what they called them back then. ~ My rural experience, country folks just called them “Patch Gardens” something that wasn’t overly labor intensive.

      With DST allowing people to work an hour in their gardens.

    • Johnny

      Thank you, DaveH. I had long wanted to see the numbers that showed that energy is saved through the observance of DS(tupid)T. Now, it seems to me, the reason why the people who proclaim that it saves electrical energy do not quote numbers is that the numbers show that they are utterly wrong in their thesis, which is utterly exploded by facts.

      • DaveH

        Using the observed Indiana figures and extrapolating out to the entire US population, it amounts to about $500 million dollars. And I think those figures are very conservative as the report was based on energy costs and pollution costs of DST. If we added all the costs for rescheduling every 6 months, and the lost hours of productivity across the country for people forgetting to reset their clocks, and other detriments, the total costs to our economy are probably in the Billions. I realize that Billions mean nothing to Liberals these days as they are into the Trillions now. It must be nice to spend other peoples’ money.

        • bob wire

          Dave ! why this insane effort to paint DST with “LIBERAL” paint?

          If conservatives wanted to change it ~ it’s for them to do!

          and they have not so much as tried!

          You lose creditability with your constant “liberal bashing” obsession.

          Got off of it Sir.

          This anal retention is absurd.

          I’ve always been annoyed with contending and adjusting to DST but I don’t lay the blame at opposition doorstep just because they allow it!

          It’s annoying that weenies are sold in a pack of 10 and hot dog buns sold in packages of 8, ~ but I’m not going to go on a rant about it.

          Life is full of all kind of crap~ ! Coping skill buddy,

          Coping skills.

          • Vigilant

            Those weenies without buns….they must be liberals.

  • ConservativeCanuck

    Certainly an interesting conversation about daylight savings time. In Canada, the province of Saskatchewan doesn’t bother with DST because its small population was traditionally in agriculture. Farmers and their livestock just do what they have to do when it needs to be done. Moving the hands on a clock won’t change that. But where I’m from, the sun would rise around 4am and set around 9pm (in the month of June) without DST. I’d rather have that extra hour after work to get-in 18 holes or have a late BBQ. And while I’m at work during the hottest part of the day, my air conditioner is programmed to start cooling my house about an hour before I arrive home. I’d like to think that’s saving me some money.

    Any way, here’s an interesting link that shows sunrise and sunset times… that may help you prove or disprove a point.

    http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/sunrise.html

  • http://none Alamar

    Your ads that cover up the text are not cool. Makes me not want to read anything.

    • libertytrain

      I have no ads covering up text. Perhaps it’s an adjustment you need to make on your screen.

      • JeffH

        Have to agree…always a clear screen from this website.

  • Michael S

    Actually, Ben Franklin conceived the idea of Daylight Savings Time. You know, the same guy who got zapped while flying a kite in a thunderstorm.

  • Dell

    Don’t blame congress for responding to businesses that profit from the extra hour of daylight. THEY lobbied for it.

  • Bonus Round

    Can one save daylight in a canning jar without being taxed?

    • Vigilant

      Shhhhhhhhhhhh! Not so loud…that’s the next thing they’ll try to tax.

  • mikefromnc

    We should have DST all year long. Most sedentary people don’t like the extra hour of daylight. But, those of us who work during the day and are active absolutely love having the extra hour of daylight to be outside in the evening.Its dangerous to ride a bicycle at dusk :)

    • Bonus Round

      I agree Mike, I’ve always liked it for the same reason.

  • ONTIME

    I have no idea how many countries around the world practice this Day light Saving Time but it seems as though we are dumber than stock because the disadvantage to all this out weighs whatever advantage the government had decided it incurs.

    Besides being a royal pain in the tootie, coping with the sun coming up has never been a real problem and extending working hours to improve production is now a thing of the distant past. Someone point out a good reason to keep this clock changing and maybe I will stop this gripping.

  • JeffH

    DST has always been a bit of an annoyance for me. Never quite understood why but also never gave it much thought…except when I peak at the time and the mind says it’s to early for bed but the body is crying for sleep. A week or three to adjust to.

    • libertytrain

      Jeff I’ve had the misfortune of twice being in Germany when they did the switch only to leave midweek and have to go through it all over again when I got back to the USA the very next weekend – it was quite a bummer. One thing I’ve noticed here during the winter it’s not quite dark at 5pm however in Florida, living in on the gulf way down at the bottom it was dark at 4. I hated that.

  • Patrick P

    I’ve NEVER been a fan of DST and have often said if I were King (President), I would turn the clocks 30 min and never change them again. BTW, I’m from The Great State of Arizona!

    • Alex Russia

      Actually I thought you don’t change to DST in Arizona.

    • Jana

      Patrick,
      I have often thought the same thing. 30 minutes, just divide it, but leave it alone once its done. However I do think there are advantages to having more light in the summertime so the kids can be outside and play and its not so hot at that time. Actually here in TX. its cooler in the mornings. But its only cooler until the sun comes up all the way.
      Oh well, whatever it is, I shall comply and make the very best of it.

  • jeanelane

    The funny thing is, there are the same hours of daylight, no matter what the clock says. I hate it getting light at 4 a.m. Starting to anyhow. I can’t sleep if there is light, whether it is at the beginning of the day or the end of the day. Blackout curtains. Yeah right. And I like fresh air.

    I have always thought that DST was dumb.

    My dogs take forever to adjust to a different eating schedule. Sleep? They do that 15 hours a day anyhow! :)

  • http://ricks-constitutionofourforefathers.blogspot.com/ Rick

    It’s the California liberals who want to kill daylight saving time. They argue that the extra hour of sunlight will burn up their backyard marijuana patch.

    • JeffH

      Dude…No stems, no seeds that you don’t need. Acapulco Gold is….pfffffffffffffft…..bad ass weed…
      .

    • Jana

      I remember reading that when daylight savings time was first being talked about the farmers insisted that their chickens would no longer lay eggs if they proceeded with messing with their daylight and dark. They made such a raucous that Congress dropped the idea for several years. Too funny.

  • letitsnow1

    just keep it the way it is. dam, our country is changing enough, now you want to change the time, what the hell is next?

  • Dodged5

    That old excuse that the time change was for the farmers was crazy back when FDR said it and it’s just as nuts now. I grew up on a farm and as dad always said, “We work from see to can’t see,” meaning that we worked when it was light enough to see and quit when it got too dark to see. It made absolutely no difference what time the clock said. If it was light, we worked so you can see that changing the clocks would make no difference to a farmer.

  • Ridge Runner

    I don’t careif you want to call it daylight saving time midnight savingmoon beam savingtime . I haven’t read so much bull about nothing that is realy not important in my 75 years of life. What is important is that it is UNITED STATES SAVING TIME,Time to change this out law crew that is in power and ruining our country.Whty can’t enough people wake up and realize that you can’t keep spending not just dollars but trillions ooo,ooo,ooo,ooo more money than you have. when are the people going to say enough and tell these damn thives to stop or get out

    • skip

      You should have mentioned this to Dubya when he was running up the till and watching Wall Street wreck us.

      • Jana

        Why don’t you talk to Obama, he is perpetuating everything and even making it worse.

  • Treesect

    I remember reading a quote from an Indian Chief (sorry, Native American Chief) who said something like this: Only a white man would cut off a foot of rope, attach it to the other end and say the rope is now longer. Seems about right.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Naomi

    To the people who say, there are bigger things to worry about than DST,
    I can only say, life is made up of the smaller things which affect us greatly in our every day lives. We shouldn’t be regulated by an out of control, conceited, domineering government, who thinks they know better than the common people. What they do with evil genius, is complicate our lives, make us suffer in a myriad of ways, create complications where they don’t need to be. Instead of eliminating waste, improving infrastructures nationally, and in states, is funnel the huge taxes they rob from the people into bottomless money pits of greed. Whether it’s the bloated unions, Departments of Education, redundant government departments, ad infinitum. Whether it’s state governments or federal, it’s all the same. Greed, corruption, politics, cronyism. Only the voting public can set this right, if they aren’t apathetic, or so brain washed, that they can’t see what’s right in front of them. If only people could think outside the box, beyond the party line, and realize the empty rhetoric is all lies. We have one of the lousiest and most dangerous governments in our history, and a lot of people are just living in never never land.

    • GregS

      Well said, Naomi! I’d be willing to bet that those people, who tell us that there are bigger things to worry about than DST, are the very people who think it’s necessary.

  • Alex Russia

    Yes, I have seen some correct guesses in the below comments: we in Russia would change to ВЫЕ in end March this year and stay with it for good.

    I’m looking forward to that.

    At last I will be able to get up at the very same time every day all year round.

  • Alex Russia

    ВЫЕ = DST

  • Scott Johnson

    The world is changing and if you cannot adjust twice a year you will have problems adjusting to world changes. By the way I travel to different time zones for business and pleasure I think they should change their time to accommodate me.

    • Alex Russia

      My job is trading with FE Asia (China, Malaysia, Indonesia, Korea, India, Thailand, Vietnam).

      None of them have DST, and since end this month our time difference will be the same all the time. Very practical.

  • http://armstrong harvey

    iam not sure if this has anything to do with this but here it goes. i live in PA. now about a year i have been looking for a job all this time ( not getting one ) i had a few interviews no luck .. now i know what it is, its my age iam 62 . this state does not hire people over the age of 49. and i also noticed the people who do the hireing are mostly under the age of 49. what is it with these people are thay told dont hire the seniors ? i think ill get out of this state as soon as i can. this state does not like or care for the aged..

    • bob wire

      Harvey, quit looking for a job and go make yourself one.

      You will love it. ~ and they can screw off !

      Find a need and fill it.

  • Bert Cundle

    I tried to Report the Answer to you, but The Government Wouldn’t let me…

  • John Woodbury

    During World War I, in an effort to conserve fuel, Germany began observing DST on May 1, 1916. As the war progressed, the rest of Europe adopted DST. The plan was not formally adopted in the United States until 1918. “An Act to preserve daylight and provide standard time for the United States” was enacted on March 19, 1918 (40 Stat 450). It established both standard time zones and set summer DST to begin on March 31, 1918. The idea was unpopular, however, and Congress abolished DST after the war, overriding President Woodrow Wilson’s veto. DST became a local option and was observed in some states until World War II, when President Franklin Roosevelt instituted year-round DST, called “War Time,” on February 9, 1942. It lasted until the last Sunday in September 1945. The next year, many states and localities adopted summer DST. From Wikipedia.

  • GregS

    It’s bad enough that the government takes MY money! They also have to take MY time to boot! If I die before Fall, they will have cheated me out of ONE HOUR of MY time!

    • bob wire

      if you want to look at it that way, you are just paying back the hour you were given.

      either way, it’s an absurd notion.

      • GregS

        bob wire says:

        “…you are just paying back the hour you were given.”

        Not true! DST originally began by taking out an hour in the Spring. No one was ever “given” an hour to be “pay[ed] back” before DST began!

  • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

    6

    Howard Steven Friedman: Daylight Saving. Who’s Benefitting?
    Nov 7, 2010 … It lasted three years before it was repealed again. Reintroduced in the ’60s, daylight saving time has been modified ever since and is …
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/howard-steven-friedman/daylight-savingswhos-bene_b_780021.ht… – Cached

  • CurtisS

    This one takes the cake. When you can turn Daylight Saving Time into partisan politics, you know the lunatics are running the asylum.

    To those of you complaining about the “extra hour”. THERE IS NO EXTRA HOUR. All days are 24 hours long. Period. As the number of daylight hours increase, the traditional 9a to 5p workday is moved ahead one hour, that is all.

    Those people complaining that the “spring ahead” of DST throws off their “biorhythms” are either hyper-sensitive or chronic complainers. “Those flying across three or more time zones will likely develop noticeable symptoms of jet lag.” (from Medicine.net). DST is ONE HOUR so it is nothing like “jet lag”.

    It also seems that a lot of people who live in Arizona or Florida don’t care much for DST. That would make sense since the difference between the longest day of the year and the shortest day of the year in Miami and Phoenix is only about 3 to 4 hours. While the longest day in Seattle is 16 hours long and the shortest day is 8.5 hours long. Minneapolis is roughly the same. So while you might think DST is a sinister plot, it actually makes sense for northern states to adopt DST. So save you complaints, it just goes with being a small part of a big country.

    • Denniso

      Daylight savings time is basically a mechanism for the economy to generate more money. It generates several million $$/day in added business just by having the ‘extra’ hour in the afternoon for people to run around shopping,playing golf,riding bikes,etc.
      All DST really does is force us up earlier in the morning by 1 hr to start work an hr earlier and get off that same hr earlier. There is no ‘saving’ of anything,just more commercial activity that benefits the economy as we give up sunlight in the morning for a while.

      I think it’s a hairbrained idea and should be scrapped.

      • Michael J.

        Denniso,
        So you are saying that advancing the clock by one hour generates more revenue? Maybe that explains why California is nearly bankrupt. According to your theory, being 4 hours behind the east coast would be a significant disadvantage, right? Could also explain the high rate of Cocaine consumption in California, their trying too catch up with the east coast.

        • libertytrain

          I didn’t read the same thing you did in Denniso’s comment. Sounds to me that he thinks it’s a bogus argument of the money saved re DST?

          • CurtisS

            @ Michael… I hope you’re trying to be funny. Otherwise your failure to grasp the basic concept of timezones is scary.

            @ Libertytrain… I think Denniso was being sarcastic. He did say “…just more commercial activity that benefits the economy as we give up sunlight in the morning for a while.” I don’t think Denniso is against “benefiting the economy”.

          • Michael J.

            Libertytrain,
            Denniso says in the first paragraph that DST generates more money, while his second paragraph states that the idea should be scrapped?
            This is not the first issue in which I have observed Denniso going both ways.

          • Michael J.

            Curtis S.
            Recognizing and appreciating satire requires intelligent awareness.

          • libertytrain

            I love satire, Denniso isn’t known for it to date on this site, perhaps something new for him – so it didn’t sound like satire to me. And he is known to miss some words when he posts. Who knows. I really don’t give a rat’s rear about the issue one way or the other -

          • libertytrain

            It is hysterical that this article has garnered so much attention – :)

        • CurtisS

          @Michael J… the written word is often a poor medium for satire. Now I can truly appreciate your post.

    • GregS

      My complaint about DST has nothing to do with “partisan politics,” or “extra hours,” or “biorhythms.”

      It has everything to do with the government telling me that I have to do everything one hour earlier in the spring and summer, just because someone thinks it might be cheaper, or whatever! It’s my time, and the government has no business regulating it!

  • 45caliber

    Back in 1973 daylight savings time was kept in winter. it supposedly saves thousands of barrels of oil a day by giving the stores an hour more daylight.

    I asked a Congressman why we didn’t keep it year around. He told me that “the strongest lobby in Washington wanted it to switch back and forth.”

    The lobby? The secretaries! It seems, he told me, that they didn’t like to drive to work in the dark. They were afraid to risk breaking down along the road in the dark. All the other reasons were basically nonsence set up to hide that fact.

  • Mag.Mike357@CO

    I like daylight savings time, we should stay on it all year.
    It gives us time to do things outside after we get off work,
    like watch the kids ball game or mow the lawn, ect,ect.

  • globug

    I did a some research on this recently when I learned that Medvedev had single-handedly changed USSR’s time zones, as well as decided that when they sprang forward this spring, they would stay there! So the Russians will never regain their lost hour of sleep. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time and find out that this scheme which originated in the 1800′s was never meant for the farmers. Ben Franklin suggested it at one time, tongue-in-cheek. USA observed it during WWI & II, but never adopted it until the 60′s. Currently, every country has their own time frame to start and stop, and it messes up time zones all over the world, with half of the countries participating, other half not. Some USA states opt out, with Indiana at one time being split in two! How absurd this is–always messing with nature! If some states can opt out, why do we let “Congress” mandate? Why don’t all the states opt out?

    • GregS

      Excellent post, globug! I agree 100%. I truly wish that all the states would opt out, but we all know that will never happen, as shown by all the discussion on this web page alone.

  • SteveI

    Too much talk about nothing. Are there not larger fish to catch and fry: like runaway spending; and subsidising loafers; and…?

  • The Insurgent

    So, DST is an invention of Rosenfeld, the crippled war-criminal? Wow. I am behind on this. Another thing is DSt is enforced on Americans: it is a statistic that on the first 2 days of changing the “clock” results 45% increase of accidents on the roads. Another weapon in “our government’s” hand to reduce our numbers, to kill us slowly?

    However, we can reverse this thing, if we care. Sign petitions, organize protests and return to normal time schedule.

  • http://twitter.com/tonysidaway Tony Sidaway

    Dammit this is too funny for words! Can’t you just take the trouble to get your facts right before going off on a stupid rant?

  • Nunya Bizness

    The real question/answer here probably involves money and lots of it, virtually all electric time/temp signs in use have a small chip embedded in the control panel that automatically changes the clock at the specified time. When that specified time is changed owners of said signs must purchase a new chip and have it installed in their sign if they want it to be correct at the right time. Sooooooo look for whomever has or had an interest in the chip company and follow the trail……..

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