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Who Killed Tony Scott?

August 23, 2012 by  

Who Killed Tony Scott?
Director Tony Scott was found dead under the Vincent Thomas Bridge in Los Angeles on Sunday.

On Sunday afternoon, filmmaker Tony Scott parked his car, climbed a fence and jumped to his death because he had brain cancer. At least that’s the version of the story reported by ABC News — the same media outlet that allegedly covered up George Zimmerman’s head wounds and claimed Aurora, Colo., shooting suspect James Holmes was a member of the Tea Party.

ABC News claimed that the report of Scott’s brain cancer came from “a source close to him.” But the story took the family by surprise. It turns out those closest to Scott knew nothing about his having brain cancer. ABC News then put out another story with the headline “Tony Scott Brain Cancer Report Appears in Doubt.”

Apart from the fabricated detail of brain cancer, it’s questionable that a 68-year-old would be able to calmly climb an 18-foot fence, which is what reports claim Scott did before his 185-foot free fall.

The death of the movie man seems too much like something out of a movie: A successful and healthy filmmaker gets news of a fatal illness, leaves a suicide note and leaps to his death before his latest project is released. It sounds like an orchestrated tale. Perhaps it is.

Did Scott know something that led to his untimely peril? Maybe a self-inflicted exit was better than whatever the alternative may have been. That is, if he jumped at all. A corpse dumped in a body of water isn’t that uncommon.

Scott and his brother Ridley Scott have a miniseries on A&E, “Coma,” that will air on Labor Day. The show is about a conspiracy at a medical facility. It exposes a hospital that intentionally performs botched surgeries on patients. “Coma” is supposedly based on the novel of the same title by Robin Cook. But we all know that many “fictional” books and movies are based on real events. Interestingly, the miniseries contains allusions to Atlanta, the home of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Could it be that “Coma” is based on a true story that someone wants to keep hidden?

Besides “Coma,” a Tony Scott documentary is set to air next year on the National Geographic Channel, “Killing Lincoln.” Supposedly, the film lends credence to conspiracy theories surrounding the death of the former President.

Maybe the pressure on Scott wasn’t because of a project already set to air, but something in the files. At the time of Scott’s alleged suicide, he was working on a few other projects — the most notable of which being the sequel to “Top Gun,” the 1986 blockbuster. The sequel was going to be based on the use of drones in modern combat. Scott spent the last few days of his life at a naval air station in Fallon, Nev., doing research for the film. In 2009, there were reports of UFOs at the station. Did Scott discover something while at Fallon?

If “Coma,” “Killing Lincoln” or “Top Gun 2” isn’t to blame for Scott’s death, perhaps the answer can be found somewhere behind the making of “Obama’s America 2016,” a recently released film that seeks to explain Obama’s past and his plans for the future. Scott has a connection to the movie through Gerald R. Molen, the producer of the film. Molen, Scott and Tom Cruise have a cinematic triangle of sorts. Molen, Scott and Cruise worked together on the 1990 film “Days of Thunder.” Molen worked with Cruise on the set of “Rain Man” and “Minority Report.” Scott and Cruise worked alongside each other in “Top Gun” and were spending time together shortly before Scott’s death.

Even though I can’t say for sure what took place on Sunday, I’m fairly certain of what will happen in coming weeks. First, an autopsy will be released and the alleged suicide will be blamed on drug use or an unknown medical problem (the family already refuted the claim that he had “inoperable brain cancer,” so his behavior will be described in other terms). Second, all of the videos that were supposedly taken of Scott’s leap will never be viewed (because they don’t exist). Third, more witnesses will come forward to say they saw Scott jump off the bridge (in an attempt to make the story more credible).

Perhaps we will never know the truth, but ABC News’ mishandling of the story serves to teach a valuable lesson. Jumping to the conclusion that the media are telling you the truth is a deadly mistake.

Updated to reflect correction in first paragraph.

Bryan Nash

Staff writer Bryan Nash has devoted much of his life to searching for the truth behind the lies that the masses never question. He is currently pursuing a Master's of Divinity and is the author of The Messiah's Misfits, Things Unseen and The Backpack Guide to Surviving the University. He has also been a regular contributor to the magazine Biblical Insights.

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  • GALT

    Yo, staph reporter Bryan Nash……….where is the truth here? Quoting the “intrepid” one…

    “Even though I can’t say for sure what took place on Sunday,……..”

    let me see Bryan……. you seemed to have a LOT TO SAY before you chose to share that bit of TRUTH? Pray tell, what would describe the nature of all that verbiage…….how about
    just another “inciteful” exercise on behalf of P.L.D.?

    But wait, there’s more……..

    “(the family already refuted the claim that he had “inoperable brain cancer,” so his behavior will be described in other terms).”

    a conclusion based on……..

    “It turns out those closest to Scott knew nothing about his having brain cancer.”

    It says in your bio that you graduated from an institution of higher education, yet you can’t
    seem to grasp what actually was refuted……..

    Need help? They denied having knowledge of “it!”. which doesn’t mean that he did not have it……….or that the autopsy will not reveal it………..but pray tell, again…..oh intrepid
    TRUTH seeker……….what could possibly be the “source” of the initial story?

    When I spotted it ( the story ) it contained information that Scott had left behind a suicide note(s) to those closest to him……….so as a breaking story, this would be the first information available to a “real reporter”……….( from official sources ) and a “real reporter” would follow this up…….by talking to……..wait for it……..”those closest to him”?

    The results of which was then reported……….which sounds suspiciously like ( good journalism )………….ever hear of it?

    Thanks for sharing all the BS speculation……and your future predictions…..willing to back them up? How about……if they don’t………you quit your job? Will you retract?

    Does P.L.D. ever retract anything……? or apologize? Bob?


      enjoyed your comment . be careful be very careful . May God bless you

      • Julia

        This is to Galt. what the heck is a staph reporter?? Does he have staph illness or what? Nothing in the story related to STAPH. Did you possibly mean STAFF reporter as in one on a staff? Just curious. You need a good command of the ENGLISH language in order to write decent comments.

      • Kate8

        The primary purpose for
        Education is not Subject
        matter, but subservience
        to accept any crap taught
        without opposing thought,
        destroying opposite brain
        to be submissive android.
        You’re taught to be stupid

        You are educated Stupid,
        You are educated Evil —
        You will ignore message
        & attack the messenger.
        Man invented his God in
        man’s character – Stupid
        Oneism and Singularity
        in Universe of Opposites.

        You are educated ENTITY
        STUPID for all Creation is
        composed of Opposites —-
        which equate to Zero value
        existence – and cancels out
        to nothing if unified as one.
        Before Word was invented,
        no God existed upon Earth.
        Truth cannot be uttered so
        that’s why I am writing it.

      • GALT

        For Julia, see Robert below for staph…….also you missed “inciteful”, or did you get that?`

        I am curious about the staph reporters here… opposed to the guest speaker’s, who clearly have their own products to hawk…….does Bob really pay them…….or do they just get a piece of the action if someone buys something off the page where their BS is posted?

        Ever wonder why the 47 year olde patriot is fat one day, skinny the next, and while you need to urgently learn why the power companies FEAR HIM…………..NOW before they shut him down…….why that ad is still here ( and will never be taken down )?

        or any of the rest of the “infomercials” you can access here…or in LIBERTY ALERTS!!!!!!

        Is this a CONSPIRACY? ( nah……but the content is irrelevant to the garbage that appears here to inspire your “passionate” opinions……….)

    • Robert Smith

      “This is to Galt. what the heck is a staph reporter?? ”

      I got it. He is implying that Nash is one sick puppy in his reporting. Maybe if YOU had a little better command of the language you would have gotten it too.


    • danny

      Galt Sounds like you are insulted by someone questioning the LIBERAL NEWS MEDIA. Your way with insulting lines seems very practiced. Like maybe you are employed with the liberal news propaganda. Or maybe you are a ?? let me guess !!!!”DEMOCRAT” Obama supporter.

      • Chester

        Danny, sounds like you might be drawing a paycheck or two from sources you would prefer remain nameless, at least for now. First we have an article that tears down an aired report with little or no factual backup, then we have someone taking that article and its writer to task for not so careful research. Now we have you crying foul because you don’t like the idea of one of your favorites being taken to task.

      • eddie47d

        There are many reasons why someone commits suicide. Maybe the pressure of “being so great” and keeping up his image was too much for him.(like Hemingway).Most of his latest works were already there for the public to see so stopping him wouldn’t have changed a thing in being released.

      • GALT

        No, danny……….e.i.P.L.F.!!!!! ……You?

    • Wil

      Yes,and we all know how ABC is completely honest and above any cover-ups or lies,right,lemming?

    • michael

      i believe its quite possible he was “shut up” and your a babbling idiot. I see it as a good piece a cut above mere speculation alone. I dont see suicide here which i deem better than educated guess


    the USA is just one big cover up story / i have never believed the news media . actually since . President Kennedy was killed // yes murdered by > if i say .>. i am sure that i will be either investigated or have an accident like so many Americans . before >> . yes ~~ I do have real stories of such happenings that are true .

  • Wathchman

    Welcome to satans little playground of lies he is loosed for a short season but has already lost on calvery things will get tough for the saints but dont lose heart the Lord will never leave you He will go through tribulation with us for His glory

  • Paul GC.

    While the reason for his death may not be related to his having ‘inoperable brain cancer’–which it now appears he didn’t have–I don’t think that’s any reason to jump to wild (VERY wild) speculation about his having maybe been a victim of some far-out loony conspiracy or other, related to his various film-projects. It’s probably exactly this kind of wild speculation without any solid evidence that probably started the rumour about the brain-cancer in the first place. (As for it being ‘questionable’ that a 68-year-old could climb an 18-foot fence, don’t kid yourself: there are PLENTY of guys–and gals–running around at 68 and beyond who are in phenomenal physical condition, who could easily scale an 18-foot–or higher–fence without even breaking a sweat.) I would therefore stronly–STRONGLY–adivse and caution to JUST STICK TO THE FACTS OF WHAT YOU KNOW, rather than go off into speculative tangents like this without facts or evidence, which (a) don’t do any good and (b) could arguably do a lot of harm.

    • danny

      Let’s be careful as you say. And walk blindly through life. If it isn’t you or one of your family or friends. Do not question the authorities or Liberal news media. Never mind all the blatant lies and coverups we have witnessed already. AND let me point out the “FACTS” that there have been several untimely and highly questionable deaths related to exsposure of this Administration.

      • Kate8

        Thank God people are finally starting to see through the media BS.

        Want to commit all manner of atrocities and get away with it? Just cause people to self-censor. Make them a joke if they get suspicious. Call them names. “Conspiracy theorists”.

        Well, guess what. The conspiracies are very real, and bigger than we even thought. They are out in plain sight, but the brain-dead sheep refuse to look at them. Like well trained zombies, they refrain from any original thought and lap up the “official” stories.

        Well, people are beginning to see a pattern to the “crazed lone-wolf” shooters, to the massive increase in “suicides” over the past years (especially since O began setting up his caliphate in America).

        And they will continue to increase. People have no idea how big this is. I’ve been watching it for years. We must not be afraid, because that only helps the psychopaths behind all this.

        Two or three years ago, a message was given by prophetic vision. This man (I don’t even recall his name now) said that, when we begin to see large numbers of people die, large numbers of well-known people, it would be a sign of the final stages of destruction of America.

      • Kate8
      • Robert Smith

        Hey Kate 8, how’s ’bout some facts rather than rants: “Well, people are beginning to see a pattern to the “crazed lone-wolf” shooters, to the massive increase in “suicides” over the past years (especially since O…”

        Actually go check out this simple graph:

        As can easily be seen suicide went DOWN during the Clinton years and climbed during the Bush years. The climb appears to relate to the economy and Bush putting Americ into the tank.

        Darn those pesky facts!


      • Kate8

        Sure, Robert. Did you read what I posted above, about stupid people? That’s you.

    • Dennis Phelps

      Think they will let it rain really hard before they look for his DNA on the fence.
      A lot of 68 year old people who can climb it without breaking a sweat would leave DNA behind also. How many people so depressed they would off themselves, work so hard to climb a fence 18 feet high to do it? WOW now that is determination, isn’t it guy !

      • JJM123

        The 18′ fence is my biggest doubt. There are plenty of readily accessible high points that would make better choices: roof tops, bridges, cliffs, multi level overpasses, etc

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  • sesame

    This is not journalism. It is pure speculation. All theory and no evidence. Will no doubt appeal to those who believe in the conspiracy theory of history.

    • joez

      Quite the contrary. Report cites “no video” “no evidence of health issue” and several works which may have contributed to “motive”. This is more “news” then most reports.

  • Mike V.

    Blatant speculation. Not what I expect from Personal Liberty.

    • Kate8

      How many of these deaths must we see before we begin to ask questions, to connect the dots?

      If you listen to some of Michael Jackson’s last appearances, he speaks of how the Illuminati had control of him, of everyone and everything. He wanted out. He tried to break away, and he tried to tell us. So have many others, and they died tragically. In fact, this was the very reason for their torment.

      There will always be those of you who simply cannot bear to know the truth. You are weak minded and fearful, so you must pretend that things are exactly as they seem.

      I don’t know how much it will take for you to take notice, but if you can’t handle the truth, then just get out of the way. People risk their lives by reporting on this stuff, by making movies about it and writing articles. Stop trying to obstruct people from digging deeper.

      Sooner or later, what’s going on will land on your own doorsteps, and you’ll have no one to blame but yourselves.

      • joez

        Be advised. Not all who fall victim were in denial. It is often our belief in demons which gravitate them to target us. Self sacrifice seems to offer little in protection or empower-ment. Faith (if you can keep contrary evidence at bay) is still ones best option.

      • Kate8

        Joez – True. But we are also admonished to be watchful and alert, lest we be caught off guard and unprepared. Like we are now.

        We need to be praying for Divine Intervention now more than ever. Americans have no idea what they have done:

      • Robert Smith

        Kate8 says: “If you listen to some of Michael Jackson’s last appearances, he speaks of how the Illuminati had control of him,”

        Is that why he kept grabbing his crotch?

        He was an entertainer and no threat to anyone but maybe kids.


      • Kate8

        Robert – You are nothing but a brain-dead zombie. A shill for Obama. And even you have no idea who he is.

        Boy, are you in for a big shock.

      • Dan Mancuso

        Kate 8;
        I read that link “The comming”. I feel so demoralized afterwards. All the things I’ve found out in the last few years seemed to gel in the half hour it took to read that, to tie them all together. The sense of foreboding and doom is sitting heavily upon my shoulders, creeping into my soul. So much so I just want to stop looking and go and hide somewhere where I can’t see these things anymore. I see no rescue from what has been set afoot – mostly because most people are asleep. Part of me wants to thank you for providing that link and part of me wants to condemn you for making me feel so small and vulnerable and helpless.We don’t stand a chance. Praying for divine intervention? Even knowing for certain that the good Lord will intervene before the worst we can possibly imagine could happen – and as much as I want there to be, I’m not even certain there is a good Lord to intercede – there is still all the pain and fear and doubt and destruction to go through. I recall the feeling I had after watching that Viggo Mortenson film “The Road” – a terrible sense of hopelessness. Is there any good news or hope out there????

      • Antonio

        Robert, it is true that the illuminati control the entertainment industry in order for mass brainwashing. They recruit people that will follow their agenda and if they turn against them, then they will ruin them and then kill them. Here is a documentary that is interesting, however, I doubt that you will watch the whole thing; so since the topic is about Micheal Jackson, just fast forward to 1:06:00….

      • Kate8

        Dan Mancuso – Yes, there is hope. But only if people are willing to wake up and stand for something. If we just lay down and give up, then no.

        Information is always the first step. Because it is late in the game, you don’t have much time to go through the stages of emotional trauma that come from learning the awful truth…so try to do it quickly. Once you are past the grief and the fear, determination sets in, and that is how we will win.

        What the PTB want us to feel is defeated. Classic psyops. “Resistance is futile”. Unspeakable technologies are being used on us to control our minds and make us weak and sick. Know this and use your God-given strength of spirit to overcome these things mentally. You can do it.

        Then, check out your local militia. They are good people who want what you want. Also know that there are military forces, both US and foreign, who have known this was coming and who have been gearing up for it for decades. They have a plan. We must pray that God’s Hand is with them.

        Evil won’t win because it cannot win. Evil is corruption, death and destruction, and always eventually annihilates itself. “The war is not with flesh and blood, but with spirits and principalities”.

        A new world awaits, one which restores goodness to the hearts of men. But it will be rough in coming. All birthings are travail. These are times that try men’s souls. It is a time for harvest of those who choose rightly. This war will, unfortunately, come to us on American soil. It is justice for all of the nations we have destroyed in the name of peace. We allowed this to happen by our silence, by our apathy. By allowing ourselves to become absorbed in material pursuits while our forces committed crimes in our name.

        Look at Brandon Raub, arrested and placed in mental detention for speaking against the government on facebook. He is a test of what we will do when these things happen. If we say nothing, we are next. Military, both active and veteran, are awakening, and they are being targeted, because they know what is coming, and they know how to deal with it.

        I well know that I jeopardize my own life by speaking the truth as far as I can discern it. Every single person who does so is at grave risk. Brandon Raub was a nobody. We are nobodies. We are the one they want to smoke out. But if we hide, they win.

        I am willing to sacrifice myself if it means helping to stop them. So are many others. We endure ridicule and risk being targeted by paid shills and agents. We are all surveilled…every keystroke, every phone call, every text… What we must do is, as many of us as we can wake up, flood the airwaves and cyberspace with our protests and speak the truth to all who dare to listen. Because if we don’t, and we have to endure what they have planned…well, let’s just say that death is a blessing.

        Allow these things to arouse your strength of spirit. Know that nothing happens that God does not allow to happen. This is the great showdown, the grand finale, the time which has been awaited for thousands of years. Be a part of it. We do win.

        And remember that death is not the end, but only a new beginning, so it doesn’t really matter what happens here. The most important thing is to live our lives well.

      • moonbeam

        Hey Kate8, the people of Iceland put their feet down and made some serious changes. They did what WE the People should be doing. Everybody should read this. They got sick of the BS, corruption, thievery and did something about it. They dismantled their corrupt government, put the bankers in jail or got them on the run, and formed a new government.

        KUDOS to the people of Iceland!!! THAT is how you handle your business against tyranny. They did it without bloodshed, by the way.

        This is what our Constitution gives us the right to do. Now if only We the People would grow a pair and take back our country. No way should we be putting up with the BS that goes on.

        Lets take a clue from the brave and great people of Iceland. We should be marching right up to the gates of the WH and the halls of congress, do a good old fashion eviction! THROW THEM ALL OUT!

  • deerinwater

    I don’t keep up with such people unless they are Nicole Kiddman.

    My deepest sympathy for the family that I am certain is torn apart by this man tragic demise.

    I am slow to buy into any story and hope that some good police work offers us some understanding in what has occurred.

    But for such a prominent figure and family man that you could expect carrying 5 million dollars in life insurance coverage to kill himself and void out any insurance coverage is suspect.

    While it sounds like Mr. Nash is doing what FOX and ABC does and that is create News.

    The article was actually a round about attack on ABC using this family’s misery.

    Yet if Palm Trees can grow in Wisconsin , anything is possible.

    We do have a News media network battle in progress in this country today, I suppose Mr. Nash could be viewed at a Gorilla Fighter, looking for windows of opportunity to inflict damage and harm and then fade back into the Jungle.

    The purpose being to undermine any sense of normal and credibility. It’s used and done only because it works.

    • danny

      Five million dollars vested to his family isn’t credible reason against suicide. “PLEASE” what would be. I am at a loss to your reasoning here.

      • deerinwater

        Danny , Life insurance companies don’t cover suicide while it’s suggested a final note was left.

    • Chester

      The only way suicide would void the policy would be if it were a NEW policy with the standard two year waiver, or if there were and absolute restriction on paying for any attempt at personal extinction. Most life policies will pay regardless of the cause of death after two years, UNLESS he was murdered by the payee of the policy.

      • deerinwater

        I do not think so Chester.

    • TerriG

      There was somebody near where I live that drove to the highest point of our bridge, stopped his vehicle, walked to the side of the bridge and jumped off. The people around him had no idea that he was even depressed. Yes, it does happen and just because we don’t always know why it happened doesn’t mean that there is some kind of conspiracy.

  • kewpiedoll

    Good point about the life insurance….he would not have done that to his family….

  • BarbaraJ Greives

    Odumbass must have gotten his instructs from Hillary and Bill! Wonder who will commit suicide next?

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    Vince foster ??

  • boyscout

    Yes, this does sound like a curious incident. Was there a grassy knoll on the far side of the fence from which to jump ? How many possible conspiracy potentials are present here ? The trouble with conspiracy theories is that most are possible realty and, if actually the case as well as properly executed, impossible to disclose.
    With the given circumstances however, I would suggest a tight investigation. Now try and find officials to perform such that are not involved.

    • Kate8

      Let’s not forget the many witnesses to 9/11 who didn’t live to tell about it. Like the guy who committed “suicide” by shooting himself EIGHT TIMES in the head and chest.

      How about the high numbers of “suicides” in our armed forces? Perhaps “suicided” would be a more apt term, as they tend to be disillusioned by what they see coming from our government. They tend to be patriots who question this administration, and what they see happening. You-know-who is removing those who oppose him, one by one.

      Wake up people WE are that list, too. And not too far off.

      • Robert Smith

        Kate8 asks: “How about the high numbers of “suicides” in our armed forces?”

        Actually simple to explain. Our fighting men are out on the lines almost every day and when they aren’t on the lines they are attacked in their bunks. In past wars there was down time between battles. That’s been changing since the invention of trench warfare in WW1 and other factors that keep our guys in more danger for longer stretches. The pressure is enormous.

        The nature of war is also changing. The restrictions and rules applied sometimes make it as dangerous to shoot as not to shoot. It’s no wonder we are having problems with our military folks.

        It ain’t no mystery.


      • Kate8

        Right, Robert. And it’s just a coincidence that they all question Obama’s presidency (and intentions).

        Or maybe they figured out something they weren’t supposed to know.

      • GALT

        just curious Kate, but when was the last time you killed someone? Are you that clueless
        about what happens to people who experience “combat”? Do you think soldiers fight for their “country”? Good wars or bad the objective is the same……survive!

        What were our soldier’s doing in Vietnam? 365 and a wake up!

        And even if you manage to survive, that can be a problem………plus there is always
        what is going on back home……and you don’t come back the same, nor will you ever
        be the same……….because THIS is the ultimate experience…….and the results, as well the range of probable outcomes……..just about anything you can imagine……

        You seem somewhat obsessed with conspiracies………at every turn, no less… two things to help you avoid the stress of your neurotic paranoia…..

        1.) occam’s razor: the simplest explanation is usually the correct one.
        2.) three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead.

        as you note, the intelligence level of humans is to low to construct a complicated conspiracy, let alone a successful one…..that also remains undetected………

        not to mention the fact that the authorities don’t have a very good track record of
        finding the truth in the first place……….or admitting mistakes…….so the usual result
        is innocents suffer……….

        this site, and all those associated with it have projected so many “dire possibilities”, and in fact I believe that the world will end several times before January first….and collapse, and you can profit from all of it… survive…….for the mere price of……..

        Wake up…….this is a BUSINESS, and you are the mushroom.

        “You’re out the woods, you’re out of the dark, you’re out of the night….
        Step into the sun, step into the light.”

      • Kate8

        Galt – My father was a war veteran. My sister is a war veteran. I have much family and many friends who are war veterans. I have a friend in Iraq as we speak, who was in the military and is now a contractor.

        These are highly trained soldiers who don’t emotionally collapse doing what they are trained to do. One problem is that the military drugs them up these days, so they are not operating under their own power.

        Granted, men are not what they were in my day. They’ve been weakend and feminized. But I still do not believe that these men are all committing suicide. Sorry. Just don’t.

        What they are seeing is that they are being used as cannon fodder for the global elite, who only desire more wealth and power. They are rebelling. And they are being taken out.

        I hear things. I know people. You believe the “official” stories on everything.

        There’s a saying. “You never know if a thing is really true until it has been officially denied.”

        The government lies. In fact, it’s all lies. It’s all illusion. There is another saying among the elite, “It doesn’t matter what’s true. It only matters what people think is true.”

        It’s all a set up, geared toward a desired outcome. Problem, reaction, solution. Choose to ignore this and be mind-controlled at your own peril. Because after they come for me, they are coming for YOU.

      • Jay

        Conspiracy theories violate Occam’s Razor. Many people use the phrase as a slick way of dismissing an argument without confronting its supporting evidence, sometimes assuming that the evidence is speculation without having looked at it at all. Often, those people miss the fact that the official theory is questioned partly because it violates Occam’s Razor

        Many conspiracy theorists accept Occam’s Razor as a useful technique to refine their theories and eliminate those that rest on too many unproven assertions. However, its premises have been challenged, not least by Occam’s contemporaries. Walter of Chatton, for example, formulated his own anti-razor: (“If three things are not enough to verify an affirmative proposition about things, a fourth must be added, and so on”).

        Thus, the theory of parsimony only applies insofar as the simplest theory sufficiently explains how the events occur. It must therefore be discarded in favour of a more complex theory if the previous one has holes. The misconception that only simple theories are acceptable flies in the face of the argument that ‘extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof’, because it makes it impossible to prove theories that rely on complex evidence.

        Furthermore, Occam’s razor is a scientific theory, and thus applies to scientific principles.

        When two scientific theories make the same prediction, and both predictions appear to be correct then the one that is most simple is accepted.

        This is inapplicable to social sciences however because of the unpredictable human element involved. Whilst purely physical or chemical reactions can be held to Occam’s razor, activities by conscious beings cannot, as conscious beings can deliberately add complexity to events, or they can behave in irrational ways.

        As an example: the capacity for evil is part of human nature, so it is known that both government and non-government entities are equally capable of evil acts. The way to determine which is more likely to do the evil task is completely based on subjective opinion.

        Theories should be eliminated by the success or failure of experiments to test their predictions, rather than by Occam’s razor alone.

        It should also not be interpreted as excluding speculation. In the presence of sufficient circumstantial evidence, such as conflict of interest, historical precedents and previous incidents of cover-ups, it is acceptable to assume that some evidence is still being covered up and will not be shown to the public.

      • Kate8

        Jay – Since I am already on the tin-foil hat list, how about another one?

        The thing is, Obama has to win the election in order to complete his plans. He intends to remain in office one way or another, because he has a mission.

        The best way to circumvent these false flags is to let everyone know that they are a set up. Thank God we have informants!

        So, if nothing happens, that’s a victory for our side.

        There’s been plenty of buzz about something big going down at the RNC.

      • GALT

        Do not mistake my questions for “ignorance” of the purpose of these “wars”……..
        they are mercenaries……..and the pay is way better now, and four times more
        in the “private mercenary” companies……..

        It is a “volunteer” force…….and as a “career”…..the pay matches or exceeds
        current median income in the U.S.

        Still doesn’t change the “effects” of the experience………

        As far as “drugs” and “treatment” go……..this is a simple liability issue, whose goal
        is purely economic……….because PSTD claims can no longer be “denied”…….the
        condition is now presumed and automatically treated………to avoid long term
        liability disability claims………..any “improvement” is demonstration of “cured”,
        ending short term “treatment”……and precluding any long term claims.

        The draft made this much cheaper………

        100% service connected disability is $2700+ monthly, with 100% medical, plus benefits for dependents…………and other things……..

        Avoiding this “liability” is sufficient motivation and always has been……..

  • Steve

    All these posts and not a single want points out a blatant mistake in the article. ABC news did not edit the George Zimmerman tape, NBC did. That alone throws into question anything the write has to say. You want facts? Try looking.

    • Kate8

      Good grief, steve. The aphabet channels are all owned by the same people, so who cares. That is a very trivial point.

      • Robert Smith

        Actually they aren’t.

        And, as corporations in it for the money there isn’t anything like a “left wing press” among the major networks. It’s all about the right wing money.


      • Kate8

        Oh, all-knowing Robert Smith. You continue to prove yourself…

        The news outlets are owned by 5 corporations, which all have connections.

        These corporations own the government. The Right AND the Left.

        But then, I’ve given up on the idea that you et al have the mental capacity to find these things out. You are just too weak to handle the truth. It might compromise your already compromised ideals.

      • deerinwater

        None the less, a worthy observation on Mr. Smith’s part. Accuracy is most important even with horse shoes and hand grenades. Why take out a wall or condemn 5 people unnecessarily.

        I have quit wasting my time watch TV altogether and live a better more productive life for it.

        You might consider trying to control what enters your home. I think you will find it rewarding.

        Read your news, ~ fewer commercials, less wasted time, go where you want to go and not were your are being lead. Movies, media, ~ lease, buy, download, ~ share, borrow,

        Habits are hard to break, and Americans have a bad habit of viewing the world between their feet with their a$$ planted in a comfortable chair.

    • independent thinker

      NBC edited an audio tape not a video. I do know ABC, CBS, and NBC have all been caught altering, selectively editing, and knowingly airing false reports.

    • Paul B.

      It WAS ABC that doctored the video of Zimmerman at police headquarters where they tried to show he had no head injuries, when surprise, the same video, enhanced to more detail, clearly shows the injuries and even the officer inspecting the injuries.

      It was NBC that doctored the 911 call. Maybe you should re-check your facts.

      • Steve

        I did and I stand corrected. Unlike others I admit to making errors. My data was correct but for the wrong incident. Plus I had a darn typo in it too.

  • uvuvuv

    if he was despondant over his brain cancer it certainly didn’t slow him down if he could climb an 18 foot fence. if that fence is chain link that would be a toughie because the feet would be too wide to get into the open diamond squares. i also think if he was facing this as a death sentence he might want to see the leaning tower of pisa and the great wall of china, etc, or even just have pina coladas in kingston jamaica before ending it all. or he could at least wind down his affairs. this is like that suicide (of course) in the squad car with the guy in handcuffs. the police handcuffed me once, the burglar alarm malfunctioned at work and they thought i was robbing the place. believe me, if you can’t scratch your nose you can’t get a gun out and get it to your head. and that james holmes, they got the wrong guy and they know it. so there are all kinds of mysteries, yes including vince foster. like how did they ever so conveniently stop that timothy mcveigh for speeding? speeding? on an interstate? boy that would sure make him stand out from all the other drivers. and how did the world trade center buildings catch on fire if they were built of steel and concrete?

  • FedUp!

    Gee George sounds like another (Mysterious disappearance because of dirt on Obama)

    • mark

      You’re right. Obama also killed JFK. He wasn’t born yet but his evil spirit did it.

      • Robert Smith

        Do you mean Bill Clinton didn’t do it? I’m crushed ;-(

  • Kate8
  • Kate8

    Are you all ready for a REALLY BIG conspiracy?

    What Obama is REALLY up to? And just WHO IS HE, anyway?

    If this is true, and I believe it is, everyone is in for a major shock…before the election, no doubt.

  • mark

    Obama killed Tony Scott. I got a splinter when I was working last week. Obama is responsible for that too. Everything bad that happens in the world was done by Obama. Or by his evil spirit before he was even born. It’s all Obama’s fault.

  • Rodney burke

    Someone is hiding something and I think we the people need to know who is THAT scared that they don’t want a film about it! We have serious problems people, someone is running scared and we need to expose that whoever it is! Something smells and it isn’t like roses either!

  • Kate8
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  • Inventor64

    Let see, Mr. Scott does a movie about “Bam Bam” and then does a “Swan Dive”. That would make my “NSA-CIA”” bells go off. If you have brain cancer, you can take “AGS” and get cured. Why cash in when there are so many options. This whole thing smacks of cover-up.

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    Good God, I think the writer of this article Bryan Nash stole Galt’s girlfriend a while ago.

    • GALT

      Katie left Tom for Scott……case closed.


    Hey Mark, at least your off the old “its all Bush’s fault” liberal tirade you all go on.

  • Winston

    Could it be the same ones who killed Andrew Brietbart? He knew too much too.

  • Kate8

    People, this detention of Brandon Raub on a mental rap…no crime, no charges…he posted some song lyrics on facebook…

    This is a false flag to test our reaction. If we do not rise up in absolute outrage… very soon what happened to Brandon will happen to US.

    They already think that we are dull and lethargic. We don’t get involved. Hegelian dialectic.

    They will take our silence as our assent. This is our last chance to stand up for freedom.

    • GALT

      Really……….our very, very, very, very, VERY LAST CHANCE?

      or is the end just a little bit nigher?

      • Kate8

        GALT – Are you really that out there? Don’t you realize that all this publicity is to gauge our reaction? Don’t you get that, if we remain silent and do nothing, it is a signal that we are ready for them to start rounding up other dissenters, because we don’t care?

        Just like in Germany. First they came for…., and I said nothing. Then they came for….etc., and when they finally came for me, there was no one left to speak out.

        I don’t know how old you are, but when I was young the horror of the NAZIs was still fresh in the minds of Americans. I see what’s happening. And you are sleepwalking down the same road as the Germans and Russians did. And now the Russians are here, just like they said they’d be, and no one is raising an eyebrow.

        And, btw, they are here because Obama invited them. Because he is ONE OF THEM.

      • GALT

        To what end? Slavery? That is not cost effective……..besides you are already in the best possible place………peonage which is far more cost effective……..( because you still have to pay your way and your debts………think coal mine….rather than plantation )

        What you are seeing is chaos as a result of greed and stupidity…….meeting reality which can not support it’s continuation…….and everyone scrambling to continue……..without having a clue what to do……… they continue to do, what they were doing….and it all slowly grinds to a halt………..being stupid is not a conspiracy….it’s the natural order…….

        This time, there is nowhere to run to………..there IS no PLAN…….which IS the problem.

        Sh*t happens……..until there is nothing else but sh*t……….

      • Kate8

        GALT – I have a feeling we will face a sudden reality check very soon.

        Think Stalinist Russia. Think Hitler Germany. Think Maoist China.

        Tens of millions were eliminated. That IS the plan this time, too. Only this time, they plan to eliminate billions around the globe.

        Every time this has been so, people have been warned by those who saw it coming. No one listened, just like now. America has the advantage of being heavily armed, if we move soon. If we wait until the Russians move to disarm us, it’s over. Even the younger generation in our own military will follow orders to do so. I mean, they are being groomed as UN troops now.

        Military people are telling us that martial law is on our doorstep. There’s an evil wind a-blowin’…

      • GALT

        It is possible……..( the elimination of billions ) but the problem is, how to do it and end up with a world which is worth living IN?

        The other problem is that, we have set ourselves on a collision course with NATURE, and despite the arrogance of the “species”……. there is a built in resolution which is self asserting……we simply have to continue to do, what we are doing…… systems will continue to fail…….and the problem ( of us ) will be solved……..this is the slow grinding….
        which ends us and possibly everything else…….

        No conspiracies are necessary, and to continue to cite them, actually detracts from the recognition and acceptance of the real problem……true, much of what is going on, is complete idiocy……..but the only real effect and purpose, is to maintain the status quo.

        Despite the rhetoric which is common here…….this is not the hotbed of revolutionary thought you might imagine it to be………and since the goal is not “enslavement” with the
        exception of “private prison’s”, which depend on government funding…….actual conquest is from within or without, neither practical nor sustainable……..

        This site is simple distraction for the benefit of it’s host………and those associated with it,
        nothing more………and if you are concerned with this omnipotent government, actually posting here would be a dangerous activity……..because unless you are attempting to hide by disguising your internet connection, finding you would be easy…….( they found me easily enough…..and along with the other’s here attempting to educate you regarding
        UCC 1-207/308…….which actually represents a threat……..there is nothing dangerous here that they need concern themselves with…… )

        You get to vent……which I suppose satisfies your need to do something, and business continues as usual for everyone else…… you should save yourself the stress, natural consequences will assert themselves over time……..and denial of the REALITY, will no longer be possible…….which should take place over the next decade…….

        This probably won’t make you feel any better……..but you should save your energy for things you can do something about……..and that means building more local relationships
        for things that are obviously unavoidable ( forget the impending and instant doom stuff )
        because this will be gradual and your neighbor’s shouldn’t be strangers……..take care.

      • Kate8

        GALT – Tragically, you are among the yet delusional, the ones who haven’t dug deep enough to understand what’s happening and why. You still think everything happens by chance, or poor choices on our parts, and that the psychopathic power-mongering criminals in high places are really just regular folk.

        There is no way to have a discussion with you until you know the things that many of us have discovered. Until that time, you are making judgments with insufficient information, and it’s up to you to decide whether you care enough to learn the truth. Or are brave enough.

        It’s all out there, and in their own words. There are official documents which spell it out. And all you have to do is research the real news, find out the things that are going down. Like UN Agenda 21, a VERY REAL CONSPIRACY to commit genocide and enslave whoever is left.

        Just because you have certain beliefs does not mean that they are true. None of us can know the real truth, because the PTB make sure of it. But we can connect the dots and come very close. It does, however, take a desire to know and the willingness to go down multiple rabbit holes, cover all sides, and reserve judgment.

      • GALT

        Not really important to me……..and there is plenty of time to watch all these things not happen… we can just wait and see……..I have other plans and since they do not conflict with your’s, feel free to carry on with whatever it is you are attempting to do….
        I will leave you to it.

  • Alan

    Excuse me Robert, but suicides peaked the year of Obama’s inauguration. Like you said though, can’t escape those pesky facts! :)

  • Robert Rashbrooke

    With reference to all these “suicides and assassinations” supposedly perpetrated by the Administration to cover up ‘something”. America has been doing this to foreigners for decades, and always denying it, and now they are bringing it home to American nationals. It is not too far fetched to be true, although I for one have never been a conspiracy theorist. If Jesse Ventura, an American patriot if ever there was one, can see conspiracy almost everywhere (suspect, because he got paid to produce the series), there has to be some veracity behind it all.

    I have only recently started reading and replying to these posts, and like Dan Mancuso, I too am highly despondent over the future of this country. We appear to be regressing back to the state of Stalin’s Russia and Eric Hoenneker’s East Germany, with its Stazi police operations. But why, what would anyone (the Administration) get out of it? Having read the list of Executive Orders, one does have to wonder what the motivation is of the Congressmen and past Presidents who originated them. Unfortunately, due to the apathy and wilfull ignorance of the American people, matters have been allowed to progress from small beginnings to the present large machinations, and like a lot of you, I am worried. Being a Brit, the idea of socialism does not make me paranoid, the way it seems to for a lot of Americans. But some of the things the present Administration is doing do NOT come under the definition of socialism.

    America’s period of greatness, from the end of WW 11 up to the early seventies was a period of high unionisation and improving working and social conditions for the population. So why so many of you are now so determined to rid your society of union involvement totally confounds me. Either all who post here are employers or have not worked in a large organisation. My experience of large organisations is that the individual employee is at the mercy of the management, who improve their conditions at the expense of my conditions, only limited by what union representation can ameliorate. Unfortunately, we are not all equal, and the more forceful of us will prosper at the expense of the less forceful. Try telling a pessimist that all he has to do is buck up, and see how that works! I do not expect Mitt and Paul will actively work to improve the lot of the MAJORITY of the workforce, rather they will labor for the benefit of the 2% or so of employers, in their effort to improve the economy, using principles that have been employed over the last 20-30 years and have been shown to be a failure. Trickle down economics has been proven not to be an effective method of improving our economy. But I query the principles of Mitch McConnell, John Boenher and Cantor, who have single mindedly worked to remove Obama from office, to the detriment of their proper business as representatives of their electorate, not all of whom are ‘died in the wool’ Replubicans.

    • Kate8

      Robert R – You are ignoring the fact that Obama is a Soviet agent, funded and groomed for this time his whole life. Also, that he has failed to release any records to prove otherwise. Obviously, he has a lot to hide.

      No one in Congress has made any serious effort to push the matter, either, even on the Right. They are all either bought or scared. Both, probably.

      Unions got too powerful, to the point where the employees were calling all the shots. That’s ridiculous. If you don’t want to work for someone, go somewhere else. It’s all moot now, anyway, as Obama is destroying all private employment, leaving the only jobs to be had in government. He is intent on the complete destruction of America, because that was what he was put in place to do.

      If we lose this war, life under the NWO will be one of complete submission. No rights, no choices whatsoever. I don’t think we can afford not to revolt.

      • gerard

        great point. Obama is the manchurian candidate who is trying to destroy this country!
        If he gets re-elected he will try to finish the job to destroy America.
        Can you imagine if george Bush had been caught saying to Russian leader “wait until I am re-elected…?

        • deerinwater

          Now that you mention it, he does look Russian!

      • JJM123

        So whatever did happen with the suggestions/accusations that he was IDed as a student in Russia studying with the KGB??

      • Kate8

        That Obama is a Soviet agent was revealed by Russian agents to two American investigated journalists, by name, years before anyone had heard of Barack Hussein Obama. The journalists were told that he would be the next American president. The journalists were stunned, and reported their findings, which were, naturally, not reported in the American press.

        Doesn’t any lefty find it odd how he was catapulted to the top with zero qualifications? How the media got behind him…a person who kept his whole life hidden? Don’t liberals ask questions? Are they really that brain-dead? That entranced?

        The CIA knows who he is. So does the FBI. They are heavily infiltrated and are behind him.

        Don’t say you weren’t warned.

  • Jay

    On 9/11, Gallup Polls Show People Waking Up

    On the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, a series of polls show an encouraging trend that more people are beginning to wake up. A Gallup poll published 13 August 2010 shows 75% of the US public believes the mainstream media news is untrustworthy. This percentage is even more dramatic than a Gallup poll revealing the increasing disapproval ratings of President Obama. While a Zogby poll in 2006 found most people were not aware of the basic facts regarding WTC Building 7, which crumbled in 6.5 seconds but was never hit by an airplane, a Gallup poll in 2008 showed a sharp increase in Internet news use since 2006 and, so, voila! By 2010, Gallup’s media poll implies people are gradually wising up, having tasted some truth!

    A remarkable precedent was set in a US court in 2003: “The court held that Fox News had no obligation to report truthfully, and the First Amendment protects their right to lie.” For a broader context of the subject, see “New Info on Hidden Hazards of Genetically Modified Foods.” Completely ignoring important aspects of 9/11 and lying about major health issues somehow don’t seem to be in the best interest of the public. How did mainstream news get so out of hand? Is this accidental?

    The Sheeple Factor
    In 1922, Walter Lippmann, an American elitist and a two-time Pulitzer Prize winner, described the masses as a “bewildered herd” much in the same way Jesus described the masses in Mark 6.34. Lippmann outlined the shaping of public opinion through mainstream media in a concept termed the “manufacture of consent.” He underscored a perceived need by elitists to control the ignorant masses for the so-called greater good of society, of course, with them on top. The main difference between the elitists and Jesus is that elitists have historically evidenced a sick compulsion to use lies and deception to manipulate and enslave people while Jesus expresses a sincere compassion to use truth and revelation to liberate and save people.

    The US public has been disparagingly labeled “sheeple” by it’s own critics as well as by commentators from other countries. One example is the former Soviet Union news source Pravda. Do I believe all that is written in Pravda? No. But the best way to understand your faults is to listen to your harshest critics. Pravda outlined three steps it believes has led to the United States’ increasingly obvious decline. First, the gradual dumbing down of the public, second, the removal of God from the equation and, third, the election of President Obama. But, as flash-points of public focus, these subjects may actually be used to wake people up:


  • Justin Rogers

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…conspiracy is the norm; things “just happening” is extremely rare. My wife and I conspire every day. When I worked at a lobby and consulting firm in DC, I saw conspiracy and corruption on a grand scale and on a regular, almost predictable, basis. Though I don’t typically like to quote Roosevelt, he was right (and he should know) when he said:

    “Nothing in politics just happens; if it happened, it was planned that way.”

    For those here bashing the author, I would agree that this piece is speculative. But his point is not. The last line is the kicker: “Jumping to the conclusion that the media are telling you the truth is a deadly mistake.” That is the entire point of the message. Did Mr. Scott take his own life. Maybe. We may never know. But raising eyebrows at “official stories” is always good policy and certainly wiser than accepting them unquestioningly at face value. That’s just dumb.

    • Kate8

      Justin – When you look at the numbers of untimely deaths, it’s pretty hard to assume there isn’t something conspiratorial going on.

      How about the ER nurse who tended to the injured from the Batman shooting? Yeah, she drowned herself.

      One would think Tony Scott would have wanted to stay around for the premier of his new movie. It was only a couple of weeks away. That he was despondent over brain cancer I find highly unlikely. I have known many people who had terminal illnesses, including brain cancer, and they nearly always want to live right up until the end. When one is dying, life suddenly becomes the most precious thing. And he was a successful and vibrant person.

      Brain cancer. Right.

      People who knew things have been dropping like flies. What better way to insure the silence of people who might get a conscience than to have them watch others be silenced permanently for speaking up.

      Most of them don’t ever even get the chance to think about that.

  • George

    which is what reports claim Scott did before his 185-foot free fall.

    I spent many days on life support after a 65 foot fall from a bridge into 3 feet of water.
    Quote the Orthopedic Surgeon

    “From that height the concrete is softer than water”…
    Autopsy should show some very serious and unsurvivable blunt force damage…..
    If it does not… well now…..

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    • coal miner 1

      Tony Scott death: Private memorial planned as probe continues says:

      August 23, 2012 at 7:45 pm

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      It is like the old saying.Who shot Cock Robin? We may never Know.

  • Jon

    Barry Soetoro, Erica Holder, George Soros, the Rothschilds & Rockefellers all part of the Illuminati & their New World Order had this done…..

  • deerinwater

    So UFO’s and aliens enter politics? It’s no telling was forces were behind this event but time does have a way of exposing secrets if enough pressure is applied. It appears that he was a very engaging man and it will take some time to follow all the rabbit trails.

    • Pam

      This is just a strange coincidence, surely – I mean, don’t ALL movie stars encounter lots of wierd situations… But; James Woods, who is one of the actors in Tony Scott’s “Coma,” starred with Robert DeNiro in “Once Upon a Time in America”.

      Robert DeNiro and Steve Buscemi narrated the french Naudet brothers’ film, which was based on their footage taken on September Eleventh. (They were filming a rookie fireman for a documentary, at a firehouse where Buscemi worked as a firefighter before he made it in the movies.

      James Woods claims that, in the weeks before September Eleventh, he notified an airline which he had flied on. that four Arab men in first class, where he was seated, were behaving strangely. He said he was afraid they’d hijack the plane. After the attacks on the World Trade Center, Woods apparently spoke with the FBI, and he believed one of the men was the terrorist, Atta. There is a FoxNews video on youtube with Woods talking about the event, and a number of other sites about it.

      I dunno what I’m sayin’, other than, if you make a film – mebbe don’t ask James Woods to be in it. Just sayin’…

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  • old goat

    5 companies own the media and all are interconnected… as note somewhere above, is more than mere fact. Track back from the American Bankers Association and one can see the bowels of the beast. Follow the tentacles of investment bankers and we see chains that bind it all together. A very few global monopolists and their pyramids of control manage it all – government, media, production, resources… ad infinitum.

    Remember the record bank failures and the colossal absorption of many into a very few in mere moments of evolutionary time. So much for real anti-trust laws and citizen protectors… their political and judicial puppets have granted “global” corporate entities Constitutional immunity… most notably in predatory lending and moving our productivity/defense resources “off-shore”. Anti-trust laws once carried jail and treble damages. Purge the corrupted & do-nothing legislators and thinks can change near immediately!

  • Chris

    “They” (whoever they are), as spoken by Michael Jackson’s sister, wanted Michael dead; she states in her video that he told her this……….my question is “why” would ANYONE want him dead?


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