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Who Is The True Conservative And Other Stupid Questions

October 3, 2011 by  

Who Is The True Conservative And Other Stupid Questions

Herman Cain, GOP Presidential candidate and former chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve, is tired of “stupid questions” about the Federal Reserve. He says so in his new book, This Is Herman Cain, according to The Daily Caller.

“I get the same stupid question at almost every one of these events,” Cain writes. “I know it’s a deliberate strategy. How can a person randomly show up at a hundred events and ask the same stupid question to try and nail me on the Federal Reserve? It’s really becoming annoying more than anything else.”

Displaying an astounding paranoia, Cain says supporters of Congressman Ron Paul of Texas are out to get him by accusing him of not wanting to audit the Fed.

“I have never said that,” Cain wrote. “I have said: ‘I don’t think you’re going to find anything to audit on the Federal Reserve.’ But they want you to believe that Herman Cain doesn’t want the Federal Reserve to be audited.”

Except that Cain did say that and it is on the record here. According to Cain, there’s no need to audit the Federal Reserve because “all you have to do is call them up and ask” what you want to know and they’ll tell you.

That’s as nonsensical as calling up the Gotti family and asking for a monthly tally of successful mob hits and drug deliveries and expecting an answer, as evidenced by the prevaricating, hedging, backtracking and sleight-of-hand Paul gets when he quizzes Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke in Congressional hearings. Bernanke’s predecessor, Alan Greenspan, was even more famous for saying a lot but revealing nothing.

If Cain really believes that people can get the truth out of an organization as secretive as the Federal Reserve — which fights tooth and nail every disclosure request and for two years refused a Freedom of Information Act request to reveal which banks it bailed out with billions of United States dollars and has forever rejected calls for a Congressional audit — he’s too big of a fool to be President. The alternative to that is he’s a Federal Reserve stooge, which I believe to be the case.

On top of that, Cain’s claims in his book that he doesn’t think anything is to be found in a Fed audit is an example of the flip-flop demonstrated in this video.

And there are other questions Cain doesn’t want asked. Like what is his current stance on the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) bailout — that he once defended so vehemently, going so far as to call those who opposed it “economic illiterates” — now that he sees that it not only had no positive effect on the economy, but was essentially a piggy bank for propping up President Barack Obama’s campaign donors, foreign banks and Bernanke’s and former Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson’s Goldman Sachs bankster buddies?

But Cain isn’t alone in his quest to avoid the tough questions. Texas Governor Rick Perry doesn’t want any questions about all the State dollars he sent to his friends through cushy government jobs and appointments that were then funneled back into his campaign coffers — including those from Merck that led to his mandating all Texas school girls get Gardasil vaccines. Or about what he really wants to do with Social Security. Or about why he supports giving illegal aliens special benefits. He believes anyone who opposes special benefits for illegal aliens is “heartless,” or he did until he realized he had offended about 90 percent of his supporters.

And Newt Gingrich doesn’t want any questions at all, because they’re all “gotcha” questions. But he really doesn’t like those about his campaign or that point out his flips on global warming and cap and trade and the war on Libya or the fact that his third wife ran up a $100,000 tab at a jewelry store.

And Michele Bachmann doesn’t want any questions about her support for the USA PATRIOT Act, or exactly why she thinks Perry’s Gardasil mandate was inappropriate — because she doesn’t really understand it. And she certainly doesn’t want any questions that require her to think beyond a sixth grade level.

And Jon Huntsman and Rick Santorum… well who’s even listening to what they say?

And Mitt Romney? He doesn’t want questions about Romneycare or his flips on abortion and gun rights or the way his company bought and carved up businesses for resale at the expense of the jobs of thousands of employees.

And the Republican apparatchik doesn’t want you asking any substantive questions at all — especially of Romney, whom they’ve picked as the their main man — preferring instead those like CNN’s John King asked at the GOP debate June 13: Coke or Pepsi? Deep dish or thin crust? iPhone or Blackberry? Elvis or Johnny Cash? “Dancing With the Stars” or “American Idol?” Spicy or mild?

It’s reminiscent of the question Bill Clinton got: boxers or briefs? This is the state of “Idiocracy” that political discourse has descended to. (If you don’t get the reference, rent the movie. It’s vile, but it’s frighteningly prescient.)

But the Party’s elites approved of one from CNN’s Wolf Blitzer to Paul about a hypothetical uninsured 30-year-old man in coma and whether he should receive care. That’s a question similar to asking a man when he stopped beating his wife. It sets up a premise that can’t be addressed in a 30-second sound bite and originates from a false and biased paradigm. (And no, it’s not true that “the whole crowd” shouted “yeah” in response to the question.)

Republican insiders — those same people who brought you Gerald Ford, George H.W. Bush, Bob Dole, George W. Bush and John McCain — want to again pick your candidate. They have chosen for you another Bilderberg-approved moderate, soft on immigration, neocon, big-government faux conservative for you in Romney. And they selected another Bilderberg-approved challenger in globalist, crony capitalist, soft-on-immigration, one-worlder Perry, hoping for a two-man race between these two and knowing that Perry would eventually crash and burn, leaving the door open for Romney.

But so far, the electorate — those people who actually go to the polls and cast votes — is not cooperating, if polls are to be believed. It’s beginning to ask questions… questions some candidates don’t want to answer.

The electorate had already decided that Romney is not the answer, despite the claims by most pundits and the MSM that it’s going to take someone moderate to attract the independents. After all, the GOP’s nomination of a loved-by-the-press-and-independents moderate worked so well in the last election, why wouldn’t they want to try it again?

And the electorate is on to Perry’s crony capitalism and his stumbling and bumbling answers and insults at debates.

It’s begun to sour on Michele Bachmann, who once seemed attractive but is fading outside of Iowa. Now it’s looking to Cain, the Federal Reserve stooge, but the elites and power brokers aren’t interested in him. And if they see him as a threat, his pro-Fed, pro-bailout past will become MSM fodder.

If Christie’s The Answer, There Must Be A Different Question

That’s the headline on an American Spectator piece now that the elites are floating the idea of another faux conservative in Chris Christie, who’s either playing games with his public pronouncements of not running while behind the scenes dropping hints that he will, or is being prodded so hard by the elites that they know his “nos” really mean “yes.”

The pro-gun control, soft-on-immigration believer in man-made global warming, quintessential Northeast Republican New Jersey Governor is an intriguing character. The Internet is rife with sound bites of Christie excoriating liberal reporters, Democrat lawmakers and teacher’s union dimwits. Those videos have made him a hero to some on the right and in the Tea Party movement who are quick to jerk their knees in the direction of the latest elitist offering without a good vetting first.

So the elites, in an effort to regain control of the selection process, are pushing another moderate (read liberal) in conservative clothing out there to carry their water.

Now it’s time for you, the voter, to ask yourself a question: What do I want from my President? The elites will decide for you if you don’t decide for yourself.

Do you want a candidate who will shrink government, ensure our national defense, make our country safer, change the tax structure, protect life, end the Federal Reserve and return our government to its Constitutional boundaries? Do you want a candidate who has been steadfast in his positions for 30 years in the face of never-ending criticism and has never wavered in his allegiance to the Constitution? Do you want a candidate who can beat President Barack Obama in November 2012, as polls here and here show ?

There is one person in the race who is has not flipped his positions depending on the race he’s running, like Romney has. There’s one who never supported TARP and bailouts like Cain, Romney and Perry did. There is one who has always believed the Federal Reserve needs to be audited — unlike Cain, Perry and Gingrich who only recently took up this mantra when it became politically expedient. There is only one who believes that after an audit, the Fed must be eliminated. There is only one who has always voted for the Constitution and against growing government and increasing taxes — unlike Gingrich, Bachmann and Santorum. And there is only one who believes the U.S. needs to quit meddling in the affairs of other nations and get out of the United Nations.

There is only one true conservative in the race, and his name starts with Ron and ends with Paul.

To follow our election coverage right through November 2012, go to Election 2012. There you will find candidate biographies and news and videos on what they’re doing, what they’re saying and the latest on polls and campaign news.


Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • FreedomFighter

    The answer is taking both house and senate, letting Ron Paul lead the return to constitutional America, and what ever president we get signs the stuff.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Rosemary

      I have never been impressed with Perry or Cain, neither of whom I trust. Cain is slicker than Perry, but both candidates are problematic: Cain mostly because he belongs to the Congressional Black Caucus (a racist organization) and is connected to the Federal Reserve. Perry and Gingrich are opportunists who will go any way that most benefits them. Romney has always been a RINO. Bachman will not attrack the independents–she is too far to the right. The trouble is, I don’t think Ron Paul can win–he can attrack the right but not the moderates.

      That said, in reply to the person who said most missles aimed at Israel miss and there are few casualties, the Arabs NEVER have been able to master new technology, whereas Israel has embraced it. Also, Israel has bomb shelters everywhere necessary to forestall personal casualties during missle strikes, while the Palestinians spend most of their time complaining and seeking freebies. Israel employs many Palestinians in Israel and provides medical care for them, but Palestine does not reciprocate because if they still occupied Israel, it would be a desert today. Israelis (the first inhabitants of Israel) got a desert property in 1948 and desalinated water to grow crops and build a functioning metropolis, while the Palestinians did nothing to improve their lot.

      People seem to forget that Israelis worked hard,both men and women, to make Israel what it is today. They did not spend their time asking for hand-outs and complaining about their misfortunes. People tend to take the side of the weaklings, but I personally admire strong, hardworking people.

      • Ted Crawford

        How, one might wonder, could Cain be a member of ANY caucus, when he holds NO public office, in or out of Congress?

    • Vic Bailey

      A wise man makes his own decision, but an ignorant man follows Public Opnion! So if you want to follow the public opnion and elect another IDIOT PUPPET, go ahead, then we’ll have someone to blame for the destruction of America! The Socialist OWNS the media and 99% of all the candidates, DON’T look at the party, Look at the Man, not the Bullys, or more Big government men, REAL MEN, and there is only one? Semper Fi.

  • http://N/A Linda Morris

    Ron Paul is opposed to our support of Israel. Now, that is the Only stable govt in that area. Those people are mandated by God to be where they are. WWII is enough!! Give us a break. Think again.

    • FreedomFighter

      Dont worry R. Paul cant get elected. He would be more effective in a Nacy Pelosi role leading the return to the constitution.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • James

        Ron Paul is not running for re-election in Congress while running for president. Get him now as president or miss out. I think the previous commenter was being sarcastic because it seemed like crazy talk to me. Have you noticed with all the money we send over to Israel to pay for their defense it means their government can spend their money to fund scientists and business development programs so they can produce the best science our money can buy. Why bother funding our own businesses when we can fund theirs instead? If they paid for their own defense maybe they would get along with their neighbors better? Maybe they would get along better with the Christian they spit upon, and the Palestinians they keep in an open air prison? Their treatment is truly un-American. Let’s just keep a measured sensible approach to where our money goes and keep it here first of all, allow people to do business at the private level, and support the Palestinians in the UN with a vote for statehood so they can get legal UN support to kick any then illegal occupiers out of their state before Israel drags out talks for another 10 years like they want to do so they can settle more people to become the majority.

        • alex

          james, maybe if i started throwing bombs at you everyday you would get your head out of your ass and see the world as it is not as your pro muslim friends tell you it is

          • Mark Dabney

            why do zionist always address how many katyushka rockets have been fired, failing to mention that 99.95% of them land harmlessly in Palestinian occupied territory- yet never address how FEW casualties have occurred over the last 8 years?

          • Dale on the left coast

            The problem is they are Firing Rockets . . . you’re 99% figure is NONSENSE!!!

          • Old Henry


            Your source?

        • Tom

          James you were doin’ okay until you mentioned the UN. The UN is as able as the League of Nations was. Sorry, the league may not be “up to the second” news like many people prefer. They were a dismal failure JUST LIKE THE UN. Why not research a little WORLD history before you make statements. Palestine was NEVER A COUNTRY! It does NOT make it so because some 3rd world north african said it during some UN rant! Always remember “Fore warned is fore armed.” Knowledge is power, and STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES SIR!

          • eddie47d

            Palistine could be a country and it wouldn’t take much to create a homeland for them. Jerusalem seems to be the major sticking point.If a Palestinian State had been carved out after the 1967 War some of the current problems could have been resolved. Lebanon was a majority Christian nation but the lack of a homeland for the PLO to go to caused that country to explode. So instead of having another trusted ally the Christians were pushed out and Iran armed the Hezbollah. Israel and the USA blew that option and that allowed the Arabs in the Middle East to use the Palistinians as their poster boy for oppression. They are still using it as a wedge issue and we get caught up in the turmoil. If you want Israel to exist forever then form a Palistine nation which will take away the fuse.

          • JeffH

            “If you want Israel to exist forever then form a Palistine nation which will take away the fuse.”

            The fuse will never be taken away…
            Eliminating Israel – A well-known hadith (a saying of the Prophet Mohammed accepted by Muslims as canonical and weighty), relating to the prospective end-of-days battle between Muslims and Jews, states:

            The Prophet … says: ‘The hour of judgement shall not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them, so that the Jews hide behind trees and stones, and each tree and stone will say: “Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him” …’

            This hadith is approvingly quoted in the 1988 Charter (or constitution) of the Hamas, the fundamentalist Palestinian organization that controls the Gaza Strip and won the 2006 Palestinian general elections.

          • Earl

            Tom: World history will show that Palestinians occupied that land for about 1500 years before the artificial state of Israel was created by the Balfour declaration earlier in this century as a pay-back for opposing Germany in WW II. The Palestinians were then DRIVEN from that land into Jordan and other places by groups of terrorists such as Menachem Begin, Sharon Peres, Yitzhak Shamir, and others when they were part of a terrorist organization know as the Irgun Zvi Leumi. Most are still refugees to this day. Small wonder why they aren’t exactly fond of Israel! If they want a separate state, That is the most logical thing to do. The sticking point is that THE SETTLERS will fight to the death before they give up their ill-gotten “facts on the ground” that Sharon and others were in so big a hurry to build on contested land. By the way, Ariel Sharon is also know by another moniker, “the butcher of beirut” and was an avid participant in the Sabra and Shatila Massacres in which all were killed, included women and children…I once heard Shamir say with my own ears on a TV news spot “we will crush them like grasshoppers under our feet”. This was before most of the intifadas had occurred……..Just a little “history”, Tom.

          • JeffH

            Earl, perhaps you should go farther back in history yourself…long before Palestine . The truth is that Palestine is no more real than Never-Never Land. The first time the name was used was in 70 A.D. when the Romans committed genocide against the Jews, smashed the Temple and declared the land of Israel would be no more. From then on, the Romans promised, it would be known as Palestine. The name was derived from the Philistines, a Goliathian people conquered by the Jews centuries earlier. It was a way for the Romans to add insult to injury. They also tried to change the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina, but that had even less staying power.

            So what’s the solution to the Middle East mayhem? Well, frankly, there is a man-made solution to the violence. But, if there is one, it needs to begin with truth. Pretending will only lead to more chaos. Treating a 5,000-year-old birthright backed by overwhelming historical and archaeological evidence equally with illegitimate claims, wishes and wants gives diplomacy and peacekeeping a bad name.

          • JeffH

            correction…should have read “Well, frankly, there “isn’t” a man-made solution to the violence.”

          • Al Sieber

            Earl, I agree with you. I grew up in N.Y. after WW2 and as a kid heard what really happened according to the Jews, one website, and we’ve been told a big lie. I knew a lot of Jews that didn’t want a Israel state until they atoned for their sins and their true Messiah came.

        • Bryan K Donnelly

          Don’t worry anybody! Ron Paul will never be nominated OR elected president. He’s crank.

          • Al Sieber

            Sounds like you’re smoking “CRACK” Bryan, and you’re a imbecile.

          • Vic Bailey

            One more IDIOT heard from! Semper Fi.

        • Vernon

          hmmm, I think James, you might want to google the living standards of Palestinians who live in Israel before you jack your jaws about how their oppressed. The Occupied areas, not withstanding.
          But to be forthcoming in my attitudes toward the Palestinians, I distinctly remember them celebrating and cheering and passing out candy in the streets when 3,000 Americans and visitors died at the hands of people of their Ilk.
          I will never forget who died and I will never forget who did it!! but then I probably cling to my guns and faith a little harder than You!

        • Betty Jo

          I agree 100% We have given billions of dollars to Israel and it has only made us enemies. We need to be even-handed and let the private sector aid the people. I am wanting to share the gospel with everyone so I give to that end. I pray for both Muslims and Jews to find Christ.

        • Mountain Saint

          There already was a homeland set up for the Palestinians in the early 20th Century. It was called TransJordan (Jordan today)…Palestine (Israel) was intended for the Jews and they should force all Arabs out of their country into Jordan, where 70% of the population is already Palestinian…Believe it or not, the Arabs are uniting right now to annihilate the Jewish nation (Psalm 83) but instead the Israelis will annihilate their cities in the next and last Arab vs. Israeli war (Amos 1-2, Isaiah 17:1 and Ezekiel 29:12). Israel will occupy the Promise Land (Genesis 15:18) and become one of the greatest and most prosperous nations on earth (Ezekiel 38:11-13).

      • Vic Bailey

        Freedom Fighter and Bryan K, are living prof that Socialist brainwashing still works. Semper Fi.

      • SweetOlBob

        This is the first time I heard a comment about Paul that wqasn’t presented by one of his cult and wasn’t laughable.
        I think you’re right. If there ever was a place for an attack dog, that’s it.

    • Bruce R Porter Sr

      He is? Prove that please.
      It appears to me he just doesn’t want to tell them what to do.
      Since we have consistently told them to leave Muslims alone I wonder what Israel would do if we let them make their own decisions.
      I know it would scare the poop out of the Kenyan and his brethren.
      We were instructed by our founders to not be involved in other country’s affairs…..Is there a country out there that we aren’t involved with somehow…..and mostly to our detriment?

    • former walmart person

      Time for teh Jews to man up and keep firearms under their pillows. If even 10% of the Jews fought back to the death and died quickly rather than dying aprolonged agonizing death in a concentration camp, WW2 might have ended years earlier. Afterall, a fresh Nazi baby would have only been 5 by the time WW2 ended. Hardly able to pick up a rifle at that age.

      • Old Henry

        Well former walmart person, Hitler confiscated all the privately held weapons. None of the citizenry had any means to defend themselves against Hitler’s henchmen.

        Much the same thing that Little Barry and Hilly-Billy are trying to do here in the U.S.

        • Robert Smith

          Well, let’s hear it for states’ rights and individual rights. Are “conservatives” consistant?

          Check out:

          The article is: “ATF: Illegal to Sell Guns to Med Marijuana Users”

          With bad science, bad law, and simply ignoring the rights of individuals the government is crushing personal freedom.


        • B. Hill

          Well now, this gives us good reason to NOT give your guns up…Right?

        • Al Sieber

          Right Henry, he did it through the Enabling Act which mirrors the Patriot Act.

        • talkinbout

          I keep hearing about how the libs want to take away our guns but I can’t find any actual bills or programs aimed at doing that. I can only find an effort to control assault weapons.

          • JeffH

            You might consider expanding your research beyond your “basement” archives.

            Try this one out…from 2008 – Obama linked to gun control efforts

          • JeffH

            No Guns For The Mindless Masses! U.S. Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA) Is a hypocrite of the worst kind!

            “Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe.” –U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein

            If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an out right ban, picking up every one of them… “Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in, “I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren’t here.” –U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)

            Bloomberg,s MAIG and the Brady bunch…

          • Vicki

            talkinbout says:
            “I keep hearing about how the libs want to take away our guns but I can’t find any actual bills or programs aimed at doing that. I can only find an effort to control assault weapons.”

            By control I have to presume you mean outlaw the possession of. Since assault weapons is a fancy name for BSG (Big scary gun) your question is it’s own proof that libs not only want to but ARE taking away our guns.

            Note. talkinbout could have meant the effort to control guns as in shoot straight but I don’t know of any bills or laws to create good training facilities and with military service no longer required it seems unlikely that the government is doing one of the few enumerated things it is supposed to do. Train the militia.

    • David

      You are correct to identify theology as the pivotal issue. Unfortunately, your view of Israel is a 170-year-old novelty in the history of Christian Biblical scholarship and is unsupported by sound exegesis of the Scriptures. See the Westminster Confession of Faith for a comprehensive summary of the teaching of the Bible.
      Our primary allegiance must be to King Jesus who rules the whole world, now and forever, and is able to protect and preserve His people in whatever nation they reside.

      • S.C. Murf

        David beg to differ but scripture says that satan was given dominion over the earth and all that reside there. When Jesus returns, after the rapture’s, then he will take back what belongs to the Father

        up the hill

        • Mark Dabney

          Pardon, the ‘rapture’ is as Scofieldian an idea as Zionism – the idea that we’ll all be beamed up to heaven contrary to Rev 14:12′THIS CALLS FOR PATIENT ENDURANCE ON THE PART OF THE SAINTS”

          Scofield was funded by the same Plutocrat that funded Karl Marx: Frederick Engles – if you do not understand Satanic Zionism – then you do not understand how horribly we have all been deceived

          • S.C. Murf

            It’s not rapture but many raptures. Yes there is a lot of lies out there and if you do not seek the truth then you will die a second death

            up the hill

          • independant thinker

            The idea of the rapture comes from Pauls writings. I do not have the book, chapter, and verse handy but Paul stated “The dead in Christ shall rise and those living in Christ shall be lifted up to join them.”

      • Mark Dabney

        Right you are – the King of the Jews is not fooled by the lies of the Synagogue of Satan [Rev 2:9 & 3:9] that created the global fiat empire, communism, socialism & Zionism – Billy Graham was right in what he said to Richard Nixon- pity he apologized when it became public.

        Cyrus Scofield was funded by the same man that funded Karl Marx to write the communist mannifesto, namely Frederick Engles.

        It is TREASON to support IsraHELL with abject moral blindness – many have been deceived by the Zionist dominated media – I do not fault those that honestly do not know better – and understand how difficult a paradigm shift can be – pls contact me: MarkAnabaptist [@] ATT [dot]net

    • Thor

      Why not just check it out? People like to talk about what Ron Paul thinks. It is perhaps best to assume that the truth resides somewhere between what other people say and what the candidate himself says.

      Find what others say here:

      Find what Ron Paul himself says here:

      For what his enemies say, there are the adverse comments here and almost everywhere else in the state run media gambit.

      • JeffH

        Thor, you get two thumbs up! :)

      • DaveH

        Good job, Thor.

    • Bob in Boston

      Actually, to correct you, Ron Paul is for removing foreign aid not just from Israel but from all of Israel’s neighbors. So to say that Ron Paul would hurt Israel is patently *incorrect* because we currently give 6x as much to all of Israel’s neighbors as we give to Israel, so if we stopped foreign aid to the region, the net effect on Israel would be POSITIVE. Not to mention the absurdity of us *borrowing* 40% of the money we’re giving to Israel and it’s neighbors from China and Russia. Let them borrow money from China and Russia directly rather than having the American tax payers pay their interest for them. If we removed our influence from the area, then Israel would be more than capable of taking care of themselves, as they proved by blowing up that nuclear reactor in Iran years ago. The only thing stopping them from controlling that situation now is *us*, and if we started minding our own business, as advocated by Dr. Paul, Israel would take care of the situation MUCH more effectively.

      • Old Henry

        I don’t know what brought this to mind, but I remember during the 1973 war hearing – just onece – on a radio news report about the Isrealie Army “vaporizing” an enemy tank. The reporter stated the tank was simply gone.

      • B. Hill

        Bob from Boston…I like that idea really well!

      • Betty Jo

        Anen! Right on Bob!

    • Brian

      Ron Paul is opposed to ALL foreign aid. Don’t make it out to be anti-Israel, because it is not.

      • Al Sieber

        I’ll second that, if you don’t help Israel that shouldn’t make us anti-semantic, we need to take care of our own affairs and our Nation first.

    • 57girl

      I invite you to go back to 1951 and look at how the United States got involved with the Middle East to begin with. The Muslim ‘terrorists’ that we all fear so much probably wouldn’t even know that America existed had we not gone into their Nation’s and splashed in their mud puddles to begin with. Dr. Paul is absolutely correct in wanting to stay out of the affairs of other Nations. We should have done so from day one. America creates her own problems and her own enemies by sticking her nose where it doesn’t belong. Learn the history of why we are where we are today, then come back and rant about Iran. We should have stayed out of the Middle East. Period. Their culture and ours are worlds apart and we have no business dictating how they run their Governments any more than they would ours. We need to solve our own problems and let the rest of the world solve theirs.

      • eddie47d

        So true 57girl. Sometimes conflict can’t be avoided but why poke someone in the eye to provoke them. Then wonder why that country is mad at us.

      • Mark Dabney

        Well stated, had we not gotten dragged into the “Great War” – which would have been OVER had we only adhered to the advice of the founders – the British Empire would never have taken over the Ottoman Empire and created the nations that now exist.

        Radical Islam only exists as the consequence of Radical [Satanic] Zionism – addressing the branches and ignoring the root is a big mistake.

    • Donald

      What’s the source of your God “mandate” statement.

    • DaveH

      Ron Paul is opposed to supporting anybody or any country with somebody else’s money. If you want to support Israel (and I would applaud you for that generosity) do it with your own cash donations. Otherwise you are behaving like the Liberals who want to save the world with other peoples’ money.

      • Al Sieber

        Right on, my exact thoughts also.

    • Earl

      I generally stay out of the fray on this blog because most of the participants have already spoken for me. This time I must say something that will probably offend all the Israel firsters in the crowd. It is that those who say as Linda Morris Just did, that cause me to state that The PRESENT-DAY Israel us Not the Israel of the Bible. They are in the vast majority of cases Ashkenazim, who are not genetically elated to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. They are a Turkic-Uighuric people who CONVERTED to Judaism in the 10th century. Originating originally from a place called Khazaria in what is now Georgia, they have migrated over the centuries to eastern Europe, Hence the different “Jews” in Russia, Poland,France, Germany and elsewhere. Therefore they have No claim to the ancient land of “Israel” which was created by ZIONISTS led by Theodor Herzl in the early part of this century…..Do your homework and stop listening to those right-wing preachers like Hagee, etc,. I rest my case…….

      • patsy

        End of discussion, end of argument.

    • Mark Dabney

      So, Israel is the only “democracy” because it only counts when they vote for those WE approve of, huh? Hamas was created by Israhell – they [Hamas] were popularly elected – before responding – go to YouTube to hear what Sir Gerald Kaufman MP has to say about Israhell and then you will understand why I call it IsraHELL.

      Why don’t you ask Rachel Corrie about what she thinks of Zionism? or does having a seance run counter to your view of the Bible? or is Scofield lax on that just as he was lax on Biblical values when he chose to abandon his wife & children?

      Better still – do some research about the Anti-Zionist Jews that do not get the time of day in our LameStream [Zionist dominated] media

    • Betty Jo

      Ron Paul is the only one with sense. Why do not the wealthy Jews support their own country instead of asking the taxpayers to do it. We need a fair and even hand in the Mid-East. We would get along a lot better AND BE FINANCALLY BETTER OFF!
      I personally support ministries to both Jews and Muslims and I think they are need to be reached for Christ.

  • Martin Fee

    Wow are you on the Ron Paul campaign staff or what? If the entire job of the President was getting the Fed audited then yea Paul is the man but the job of the President goes far beyond that. Just ask Mr Obama who thought the job consisted of speaking and everything would change by magic

    • Anthony

      That’s because the Federal Reserve is the top of the pyramid. You have to start at the top to fix all the problems. If you went to the doctor with a broken leg would you have them to look at your arm first?

      “The love of money is the root of all evil”

      Yes the Fed should be the top of the list!

      • Jay

        While they’re at it, they should change the name “Federal Reserve” to, “Private banking cartel”. Nothing federal about it, and there are no reserves! It’s an out and out SCAMOLA!!!

      • 57girl

        Exactly. He who controls the money supply controls the game. It is time we blew the dust off of our Constitution and abided by its guidelines. That would begin with abolishing the Federal Reserve. Ron Paul is the only Candidate running to date that has the nerve to go against the grain and stand up for our founding papers. If we want to save our Sovereignty, we must get rid of the private bankers and the puppet masters that are pulling the strings, including trying to erase our borders in favor of the NAU/NWO.

        Ron Paul . 2012 . It is time to restore America.

        • Donald

          Are you saying the Government take over the banks? How else would you get rid of private banking?

          • JeffH

            …may have the private banks confused with the central banks that are attached to the Fed and the World Banks.

          • DaveH

            The problem with the Federal Reserve, Donald, is that they have monopoly power over the creation of legal tender, and that they print basically worthless paper dollars which only have value because the Government says so (or else). Read this free online book to gain more knowledge:

          • Jay

            DaveH, this looks like a most interesting read! Thank you for that.

      • DanB

        I chuckle at all these arguments that make one strange assumption: if we get rid of the fed then our money problems will be fixed. Ironic because some of the same people realize that we have a spending problem, not a revenue problem. We spend more than we have. So all this talk of getting out of the Fed is laughable.

        Will dissolving the Fed fix the problem? What happened when we had prohibition on alcohol? We got crime. So what will abolishing the Fed do when America is addicted to spending? Fix absolutely nothing.

        What if we fixed our addiction first? Perhaps the Fed would lose its power. If we started becoming responsible from the bottom up, how quickly would the Fed open its doors? If we stopped being addicts, then it would only be the Fed that is addicted to its power. We could actually turn their own greed upon themselves. They would treat us right because they would have to in order to keep our business. Because if we managed our spending, then we wouldn’t really need their policies. They would straighten out on their own just to keep us as happy customers. However, since we are addicts, they know they HAVE to keep their books closed. An addict is never satisfied. Would the drug dealer on the street tell his client where he stores the illegal drugs? Probably not. He would risk having a client stealing his illicit goods. Well, we are addicted to spending. Opening the Feds books would fix nothing, in fact, it would probably make things worse.

        See, sometimes the best solution is not the easy. Crying auditing the Fed is easy to say. They make a good political target. It is the easy way of pushing blame away from ourselves. We don’t like taking responsibility for changing our own lives. But that is just what we need to do. We need to give up our drug, our addiction, our spending habit. Once we do, then auditing the Fed makes sense. Until then, we will fix nothing by auditing the Fed.

        So Herman Cain is partly correct is saying that auditing the Fed will not have the effect you think it will. I do think he is wrong in part about the Fed being clean. But the problem is not the Fed, the problem is us. The Fed was originally created to feed our addiction. I don’t know, but it seems like as a nation we are even more addicted now then ever.

        • Vicki

          WE are not the problem. WE don’t have a spending problem. CONGRESS has a spending problem. They spend OUR money. They borrow more money on OUR credit. And spend it too. If a single family did that they would be broke in a very short time Government, however, using the effects of the Federal Reserve just prints more money. That money gets into the “money supply” raising the price of things including wages. With wages higher more of OUR money is taken in taxes to pay back the money+interest that CONGRESS borrowed.

          Thus you see as Reagan warned Government is NOT the solution. Government IS the problem.

          Removing the ability to print money from thin air will dramatically reduce the amount of money available to Congress. Thus you see how ending the FED will help with the spending problem.

    • Glenn Filipponi

      Obviously you have not woken up yet

  • john turner

    This is another Ron Paul cheering section. Ron Paul is a nut job that will never be elected and must be on drugs with the stance he has on drug issues. There are far better choices than Ron Paul I wold like to see a site that really was a coservative site not a Paul election site He will never get my vote or the 12 votes of my children and inlaws.

    • newspooner

      You are sadly out of touch with reality, and time is running out for liberty.

      • Mushin

        @ Newspooner -these nimrod’s who oppose Ron Paul cannot be reasoned with NS. Ron Paul is the only man willing to stand for for ALL OUR FOUNDING FATHERS STOOD FOR – if he isn’t elected, our country will end as we know it.
        As far as Israel goes, LET THEM FEND FOR THEMSELVES. OUR GOVERNMENT GIVES THE ISRAELIS BILLIONS EVERY YEAR, THEY HAVE 60 NUCLEAR WARHEADS, THEY DON’T NEED US – PERIOD. If the middle-easterners don’t want to live with their brothers in peace, let them bomb each other and end this stalemate….it is NOT our place to come between them and our interference is preventing a resolution!


        A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned – this is the sum of good government.
        Thomas Jefferson

        All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.
        Thomas Jefferson

        As our enemies have found we can reason like men, so now let us show them we can fight like men also.
        Thomas Jefferson

        Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition.
        Thomas Jefferson

        Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto.
        Thomas Jefferson

        • Old Henry

          Just a thought, mabe we would get Israel to guard our southern border as the dumb-a$$es in DC won’t get the job done.

        • eddie47d

          Mushin; I love TJ’s last quote about commerce with all but alliances with no one. Those tricky alliances gets the world in more wars.

    • Bruce R Porter Sr

      Ok, but he picks up 13 votes here.
      If all you want is “getting elected” just pick the best looking one, really doesn’t matter. All you’re gonna get is the Kenyan with an R behind his name…..same policies. Just like we’ve had since Reagan. Or maybe, with slight wiggles, since FDR.

      You sound like a “liberal”. You don’t like him….but, did the article say the truth? Were there any falsities in it? Hasn’t Paul said the same things for 30 years? Didn’t the rest of the crew do exactly what was stated?

      If not, instead of making dumb comments, show where Paul is wrong or has lied. Prove that his policies would not be int the best interests of the country. Heck, you read like a shill for the republican establishment…..which is the same as the democratic establishment.

      The truth will set you free… that somewhere.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        To Bruce R. Porter Sr.
        If Ron Paul has been saying and doing the same things consistently for 30 years, don’t you think he would have been elected by now. Some of his ideas are as right as rain. Others are washouts. The stuff I agree with him about I would really like to see implemented, however the things are don’t agree with him about are all serious topics as well. When I look at a candidate, I don’t want to have to vote for one who has as many great positions as they have far fetched positions. This is what will cost him the election if he gets the nomination.

        • DaveH

          Robin says “If Ron Paul has been saying and doing the same things consistently for 30 years, don’t you think he would have been elected by now?”
          No. It takes time for people to throw off a hundred years worth of propaganda. People don’t wake up overnight, especially when they’ve been taught most of their lives to fear Freedom.
          Perhaps you could enlighten us, Robin, to his “wash out” ideas, instead of just throwing out blanket generalizations?
          Every one of Ron Paul’s stands have good solid basis behind them. He is more like Thomas Jefferson than any other Politician today.
          You can’t argue logically against anything Ron advocates, unless you are speaking to an illogical crowd.
          But don’t let me scare you away from trying. Give it your best shot, Robin.

          • Pete in AZ

            You’re right…it ‘takes time…” But, it’s the time it took for Paul to throw off his mantle of Libertarian and pick up a Republican color to vault into contention.

            Not that there is anything wrong with that, it just shows how inattentive the run of the mill voter is.

    • Jibbs

      Then why are you here?

    • John Howard

      I’m with you John, RP scares the crap out of me. He doesn’t care!! if Iran has a nuclear bomb? He doesn’t feel like its an important point when the Iranian leader has said that when he gets the bomb, Israel is first and the United States is next? How can anyone, let alone a serious presidential candidate, look the other way on that subject. Did we forget that Iran has been an enemy of the US since the Ayatollah took over back in the 70′s.

      • dan

        Boys,boys…prohibition does not work…not on booze ,not on drugs ,not on bombs. Try not to be afraid of bullies…that’s how they win.

      • Mark Dabney

        Iran does NOT have a nuclear WEAPONS program – the Zionist propaganda is a bare faced LIE – while Israhell has hundreds of state of the art nuclear weapons & delivery systems and reactors running to make even more- Israhell is carrying out racist genocide while playing from Saul Alinskis’ “Rules For Radicals” number 5 – accuse those that rightly accuse you to destroy their credibility.

        As for drugs – criminal elements of the gov’t has been exacerbating the problem- but where in the constitution does the feral gov’t have authority in this matter? So long as people are held accountable for their actions – society will take care of itself.

        • Dale on the left coast

          Mark . . . you sound like your leader . . . Akmed Dinnerjacket.
          Iran is a huge supporter/financers of terrorists and YES . . . they are working on a bomb . . .

        • patsy

          Just ask Mordacai Vanunu.

      • 57girl

        Go back to 1951 and see who started the ball bouncing. We need to mind our own business. Had we done so from day 1, the Muslim nations would still be killing each other like them have for 1000s of years. They wouldn’t even know the United States was on the map, had we not introduced ourselves by meddling in their affairs.

        • Robin from Arcadia, IN

          57 girl… You can’t go back except to not repeat a mistake. We can’t change what happened then. Ron Paul has some great ideas, but he also has just as many that are not so great. He was born before his time. That can’t be changed either….

          • DaveH

            I’m still waiting for you to delineate his not-so-great ideas, Robin.

      • TML

        “How can anyone, let alone a serious presidential candidate, look the other way on that subject. Did we forget…”

        “The United States goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is a well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. If the United States took up all foreign affairs, it would become entangled in all the wars of interest and intrigue, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. She might become the dictatress of the world. She would no longer be the ruler of her own soul.” – John Quincy Adams

        It would seem that, yes, this country has forgotten.

        • patsy

          That was then, this is now

          • Vicki

            And it is quite apparent that she ( the United States ) by trying to dictate how the world should be, has in fact, lost her soul.

            Our forefathers yet again prove that they were far wiser than any alive today. Regrettably they did not foresee how dumb we would become.

      • B. Hill

        OK, Iran has a bomb…So freaking what? Don’t you think Israel can handle this issue in time? You don’t know or understand the history of these people.

        The Bomb can only go as far as the state of Israel and NOT the United States. Israel is monitoring this situation minute by minute. Ron Paul knows that Israel is capable of intervening Iran and their bomb.
        That is why he give little attention to Iran having a bomb. Because he knows that Israel will strike Iran when the time is right. The time is NOT right…right now kids.

        You are wallowing in fear I think!

      • DaveH

        Of course he cares, John, if Iran has a nuclear weapon. He is just smart enough to know that they aren’t nearly as dangerous as the fear-mongers would have us believe.
        Which nation is the only nation in the world to have ever actually used a nuclear weapon?
        Which nation has the second most number of nuclear weapons in the world (and probably more technically advanced than any other)?
        Which nation has their nosy-nose in more countries’ business than any other nation in the world?
        I fear the people who are worthy of being feared.
        Imagine what other countries must think of the US?

      • Earl

        How soon we forget!!

        In 1953 America and the CIA engineered a coup d’ etat against the democratically elected Mohammed Mossadegh in Iran, who took control of the oil wealth of The country for Iran’s benefit, from the Arab-american oil co, Installing the Shah, Reza Palhlevi, who turned out to be a despot and ruthless dictator-puppet of the US Gov’t. This, and his ruthless secret service known as SAVAK, set the stage for the Iranian student revolution of 1979 and the return of the Ayatolla Ruholla Khomeini From exile. There have been slight changes since then but the Mullahs still control the agenda, not Ahmejinedad.

        While were on the subject of Iran, The oft-repeated statement that Israel is to be destroyed, Has been translated many times and reads: “The ZIONIST REGIME must vanish from the pages of time”. Not exactly a call for destruction, more like fade away or disappear…

        • Al Sieber

          Good one Earl, I was waiting for someone to bring that up. nobody’s brought up Pakistan and the bomb yet, or India.

      • xanado3691

        Where’s the logic? You have multiple and different kinds of sophisticated weapons, capable of destroying everything! and yet, you’re afraid to the one who is trying to make a gun! for his defense! tsk! tsk!

    • Brian

      People like you like to claim that Ron Paul is a nut job, but never offer any proof other than talking points you heard on the Lame Stream Media.

    • JeffH

      john turner, good luck on finding any other candidate that is as conservative as Ron Paul…it just ain’t gonna happen. What other candidate has a consistant 30+ year track record and offers more constitutional freedom and liberty than Ron Paul. It’s all about personal responsibility and Ron Paul is the only candidate that honestly supports your ability to make your own choices without the overbearing government making them for you. Are you happy with the status quo? If so, vote for someone else…if not, a vote for Paul will certainly give America a chance to start returning itself to a constitutional republic.

    • S.C. Murf

      Time to make that popping sound JT

      up the hill

    • DaveH

      Your twelve children, John? I guess you’re right, Ron Paul is not the man for you. You would be much more comfortable with a dictator as it appears you must be one in your family. What do you do, follow your kids to the polling booth?
      No, actually John, you must be the one on drugs. I do no drugs (never have), not even aspirin, so my head is clear enough to see that the Drug Wars have accomplished nothing except enriching the worst segment of Society (Drug Lords), allowing the Government an excuse to suspend our Constitutional Freedoms, causing the deaths of many innocent victims caught in the middle between the Drug Gangs and the Drug Warriors, and costing our country about $25 Billion a year.
      Thanks to people like you who don’t have the sense to learn from experience (Prohibition), the rest of us have to fear Nazi-like Drug Raids on our innocent families, and we have to watch a large portion of our money thrown down that futile Drug War hole.
      They can’t even stop prisoners from getting drugs, and yet a large portion of our population has been so dumbed-down by propaganda that they honestly think it’s a war that can be won militarily in a free society.
      For those who honestly want to open their minds:

      • Vicki

        For a TRULY free people the possession of ANYTHING created, grown, obtained without fraud or theft, can not be illegal.

        • Blinks

          Have you thought of how many people would be un employed if we the
          people legalized drugs? Many in the Drug War could get re-employed
          as Cops arresting those Druging & Driving. One hundred years ago
          few people OD’d on Drugs, and since we are so much more intelligent
          today, why would LEGAL DRUGS be a problem?

  • eve4drpaul

    I agree completely! Nice article.

    People are so dumbed down by the media and propaganda- it never seizes to to amaze me.

    There is only one correct answer: Ron Paul

    Ron Paul or NONE at all.

    He’s the ONLY Republican I will cast a vote for, be it as the nominee, an Independent, Libertarian or write in.

    • Blueshoes

      Eve FOR Dr. Paul

      WOW!! What a brilliant Slogan… Ron Paul or NONE at all. WOW!!! Amazing… or NONE at all. Brilliant!!! WOW!!! Really Amazing!!! WOW!!! NONE AT ALL. IT RHYMES… Makes little sense but it rhymes. WOW!!! So let me see. If DR. Ron Paul don’t become president, then we WON’T HAVE a president. WOW!!! You got a point there! WOW!!! Just WOOOOOOOOOOW!!!

      • newspooner

        Actually, we might have been better off for the past 83 years if we didn’t have a President. Too many people irrationally either love or hate our Presidents. Let’s not glorify individuals who get elected. They are not superior in the eyes of God. Neither is Queen Hohernzollern, but too many dumb people in UK glorify her. I thought we fought a revolution to get away from that immature crap. Let’s just vote for the best candidates for President Senator, etc. then hold them to following the Constitution. Among the candidates, Ron Paul comes out way on top.

      • Brian

        If Dr. Paul isn’t the next president it really doesn’t matter who is because they are all the same as each other and just like Obama. With out Ron Paul the only thing that changes if a Republican is elected is the name on the letter head.

      • Al Sieber

        Blueballs, you’re on the wrong website, you should be on Ed Schultz.

        • Blueshoes

          I think you’re on to something there ALL Slyber. I don’t think I’m on the wrong website but I do believe I’ve stepped into a load of “Paulista DOG SQUEEZE!” :)

    • Anthony

      I agree Ron Paul is all we have! Blueshoes is just another brainwashed moron!!! WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • JeffH


  • Myra

    Sarah Palin is the only answer. You forgot to trash her,
    but I’m sure you will pick up where you left off.

    • Mushin

      Another idiot to vote for an idiot! Sarah Palin is another boot-licking, ass kissing elite loving panderer.

      Pull your head out of your a**!

      • patsy

        She had an Israelie flag in her gov’s ofc.

    • JeffH

      Myra, maybe there is a reason why Palin wasn’t trashed by the author.
      Hasn’t the MSM already written her epitaph? I like Palin too but you and I both know she won’t run and that a large part of the country rely on the MSM and local news for their enlightenment and believe what they “hear”…

    • Karolyn

      Sarah Palin is too busy having fun to run for President anyway. That, and raking in all that money.

    • DaveH

      Sarah Palin kicked Arizona in the teeth by campaigning for the Ultra-RINO John McCain. I may never forgive her for that.
      She’s pretty. She’s smart. But she doesn’t understand the concept of Freedom. Yet. I think she’s capable of learning, but I don’t want her practicing as my President.
      Besides, we already have Ron Paul. And there is no candidate in the Republican party who comes close to Ron. Most Politicians are out for themselves and their Crony Capitalists and could care less about the citizens. They feed off each other. The Crony Capitalists put up the campaign funds to get the Politicians reelected, and the Politicians put up the Protectionist laws to keep the Crony Capitalists in clover at the expense of their competitors, the consumers, and the taxpayers.

      • Al Sieber

        I’ll second and 3rd that Dave.

  • Insurgent

    At one time, political leaders worked and served the American taxpayer. Today, Washington, DC, is a giant cesspool for liars, whores, and thieves.

    So how is this hopey, changey thingy working for you?

  • Roger

    Michele has a Phd behind her name in tax law. Do you know how hard those are to ge? She has started and run a successful business. She is on the intelligence committee. GUESS SHE IS MUCH SMARTER THAN YOU ARE BOB.

    • newspooner

      I think she is fairly good, but her voting record was a disappointing 70% constitutional. The really big flaw is her support for the continuation of the neocon-nazism that the Establishment calls the “Patriot Act”.

    • James

      If she has a Phd why would she say every American has a right to keep every dollar that they earn and then back peddle and say “Obviously we need to give money back to the government”. It doesn’t sound too well thought through for someone who supposedly has a doctorate in the subject. Why didn’t she put a number to it, and support a position like you have a right to keep 80% of what you earn? It would have made more sense. The people at want an amendment that says exactly that, after taking into account all federal and state forms of taxation they want to guarantee that you have a right to keep 80% of what you earn. Sounds good to me. Anyway, this is a hard hitting article and is exactly right.

    • Mushin


      • Caroline

        I agree — after all, she did marry Obama!!! Also, she has a degree from a government-brainwashed liberal university.

        • eyeswideopen

          Caroline, they were talking about Michelle Bachman, not Obamas wife.

      • patsy

        Doesn’t that stand for Post Hole Digger?

    • DaveH

      That is just about the dumbest comment I’ve seen today, Roger. It makes me think you know little about college educations. Some of the most ignorant people I’ve known had degrees. And some of the smartest people I’ve known didn’t have degrees.

    • Al Sieber

      Yeah Roger, she’s bought and paid for also.

  • Insurgent

    Opinions are like a-holes———————-most people have one!

    • David in MA

      and some people like obozo has more than one.

  • http://n/a Anna M

    I am so disappointed in all the candidates, and those who ‘think they may or may not’ become candidates. I wouldn’t vote for any of them. NOT a one of them has hit the right note to earn my vote. The saddest part of it all, will there be ‘someone’ to step up and solidly run as a COMMON SENSE cONSERVATIVE

    • LibRep

      I’m personally tired of candidates that don’t stand on anything but what the polls say. I’m not in favr of a Christie run, but I do like what he said in his speech at the Reagan library – leaders don’t change because of polls. Leaders change polls. So far, I haven’t seen any candidate that changes polls other than Ron Paul. We are on the cusp of seeing a government giving us all we want changing to a government that’s going to take everything we have, especially if we elect another RINO.

      Ron Paul is the way the Republican Party used to be and needs to be again. Check out this speech from Ulysses S Grant on reasons to be a Reoublican ( and ask yourselves what happened to this party? This is the Republican Party I belong to, not the RINO pseudo-liberal, neo-con warmongering party we have now. It’s also why Ron Paul has my vote and my family’s vote.

      For God and Country – Ron Paul 2012

      • Karolyn

        Christie is considered a liberal who is soft on immigration. Just because he has a belligerant nature does not make him a good candidate. I think that’s why so many conservatives like him, because he talks back at people who oppose his views and does so in a plainspoken manner.

      • DaveH

        No, Ron Paul is the way the Democratic-Republican party used to be. The Republican party came into existence in 1854, and almost immediately began pushing for the “internal improvements” programs, a euphemism for Government involvement in the economy (Crony Capitalism). They have been protecting their favorite Crony Capitalists and vice-versa ever since. It should be noted that the Democrats have their own set of Crony Capitalists these days.

        More on the roots of the Republican Party:

    • Dagney

      Yeah, that’s intelligent. Withhold your vote because you can’t find the “perfect” candidate. Enough people do that and you’ll see our country become a dictatorship under Obama because he wins reelection. Makes sense to me!

      ABO = Anybody BUT Obama 2012!!!!

      • Mushin

        Dagney – if it isn’t Ron Paul, kiss your country and your ass good bye!

      • DaveH

        No, Dagney, we got where we are now because too many people thought the lesser of two evils was the correct way to go. But lesser or not, it was still evil and the Government just kept growing into the Leviathan beast it now is. There is no slack left now. If we don’t get perfection, we get even more of the same, and you can pretty much kiss your Freedom goodbye.

    • B. Hill

      He already did…Vote CAIN

  • Henry Ledbetter

    We best seek God’s Wisdom on who to vote for. that is if He should allow us to have another election. One thing for sure is that which is done in darkness will one day be brought to the light. Thank goodness Our God knows the thought’s and intent’s of every heart and He and His Word are always true.

  • David in MA

    “Herman Cain, GOP Presidential candidate and former chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve”

    What was Cain’s record while there and why did he leave?

  • David in MA

    BTW, Chris Christy is not the answer….
    He’s from New Jersey, which is just another state like Illinois—
    (that’s where Chicago is…and we all know what Chicago has given America, the finger! OR translated: obozo.)


    You Libertarian might want to do some reading and researching before spouting off, and that includes Bob Livingston. The Federal Reserve Board of Governors, the Federal Reserve Banks, and the Federal Reserve System are all have several levels of annual audits and reviews. Like all corporations, the Board’s financial statements are audited by an outside auditor and the Federal Reserve’s operations are the Federal Reserve is also subject to review by the Government Accountability Office. How close the audits are scrutinized is another matter.

    However, the real issue is how they set monetary policy without any input or approval of Congress and how the debt is monetized. by basically just printing money.

    As for Cain’s involvement, he was not part of the Federal Reserve Board but of the KC bank and that was some 16 years ago. He’s had no(known) links since. Maybe he was actually just a diversity appointment. Cain is also on record as saying that Federal Reserve needs to be “fixed” although he doesn’t specify what exactly needs to be fixed.

    BTW, in addition to not supporting Israel, Paul believes we are still living in the 19th century where the oceans and SW desert are going to protect us from our enemies.

    • dan

      Not Dr. Paul’s position at all WAG…he’s for letting Israel deal with their own problems in a democratic fashion instead of being dictated to by our State Dept. Nice points on Caine ,but I’ve observed a bit of that racial-chip-on-the-shoulder syndrome a couple of times.

    • Bob Livingston

      Dear PFWAG,

      Either you are ignorant and are the one who needs to read, or you are a Federal Reserve shill. The Fed has never had a complete audit. The GAO audit is limited to areas outside of monetary policy. The GAO can’t review most of the Fed’s monetary policy actions or decisions, including discount window lending (direct loans to financial institutions), open-market operations and any other transactions made under the direction of the Federal Open Market Committee. It also can’t look into the Fed’s transactions with foreign governments, foreign central banks and other international financing organizations.

      Best wishes,

      • IreBelle


        • Jay

          It’s not the sound of crickets you hear IreBelle, rather, the sound of a fool trying to dislodge his foot from his mouth!

  • Captain Mike

    I’m all for auditing the Fed, but why is it a Presidential litmus test? Can the Pres order it (Exec order, Finance Czar, whatever)? Wouldn’t Congress have to do it (fat chance)? And is the Pres even relevant? Congress has oversight and can do it without him. I don’t think he could even stop it. It does provide for some interesting dabate – like when Romney cracked “who do you WANT overseeing the currency – CONGRESS?” Hardee har har. Shows what he knows (or cares) about the Constitution.

  • Glen Xx

    Ron PaUL 2012

    no mo rinoS EVER

  • Bud G.

    Mr. Livingston: I usually agree with what you say but I have serious misgivings with Ron Paul regarding his views on Iran.

    I was very involved in the intelligence community for years and very familiar with the middle east. Iran is very dangerous and their quest to control the entire middle east is evident. Should this venture continue on its present course, you know it will draw the world into another war and countries choosing sides.

    The United States has made a huge mistake in not recognizing the futility of their efforts to change countries like Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan to a form of democracy as we know it. It will never work in countries under Islamic rule and ethnic division that exists there.

    Although most countries in the middle east refuse to recognize Israel, there is no doubt in my mind they fear Iran more than Israel and would look the other way if Iran’s nuclear threat was eliminated.

    Ron Paul is simply wrong about Iran and this is why I would not vote for him. Sometimes, he comes off like a raving lunatic during the debates and that also turns me off on him. Romney and Gingrich, from what I have seen so far, have sound reasoning in their responses without gimmicks like Cain used to win over the crowd. Remember, this is what Obama used and look what we have now as a result.

    Where did you get information that Romney was part of the New World Order? I have seen Obama, Bush and Perry on that list but not Mr. Romney. The New World Order has ties with the International Monetary Fund and the United Nations. This is how Obama won and why Perry should be out because he won’t answer why he attended their meetings.

    • former walmart person

      If IRAN nukes someone, Iran for centuries will just be on the map with a footnote that the entire country is a radiated wasteland. Mutually Assured Destruction worked against the Soviets with far more nukes, so why wouldn’t it work against Iran? Even if it was our job to police the world, we CANT AFFORD TO DO IT ANYMORE.

      • alex

        because russans are sane and iranians aren’t

        • DaveH

          Again I ask “Who is the only country in the world who has actually used a nuclear weapon on another country?”.
          We must come off as the biggest bunch of colossal hypocrites in the world to other countries’ citizens.

    • Mark Dabney

      Sounds like your work in the intel community was extremely compartmentalized – do you disregard that criminal elements of the CIA ousted a popularly elected pro-western president? Read up on Ray McGovern – or better still Dr. Alan Sabrosky – former Director of Studies at the War college

      • Bud G.

        No, I do not disregard what certain elements of our government have done in the past. I also know that several countries around the world are engaged in the same thing. I did not say I condone their actions.

        The point I was trying to make is Iran has made it clear control of the middle east in their goal and it likely will cause the entire middle east to erupt into war and we will be drawn into it.

        I was not saying we should abandon our allies as Helen thought. The only ally we have there is Israel but I did say we should not be in Iraq, Afghanistan or involved in any way with Pakistan because they are not true allies and in fact hate America. Democracy as we know it will not become a reality in those countries. History should have told the government that probability was nil. I would rather see our soldiers away from these countries. We have sacrificed far too many good men in a futile effort. The other side of it is we have to insure our vital interests in the middle east remain simply because our country still does not recognize the danger of dependence on foreign sources for our oil. Remember, the serious discussion about this came in 1973 but after all these years, domestic production is discouraged. What would happen if we do not protect those interests if we don’t work toward domestic production? I think the answer is obvious.

    • DaveH

      Why would Iran hate the US? I can’t imagine:

    • Helen

      Whether your work is compartmentalized or not, I have to agree with you on Ron Paul’s foreign policy statements. I am not at all comfortable with totally removing all aspects of American influence in such a volitle part of the world. President Wilson was for isolationism, but now is definitely not the time.

      I realize that America can pull back on some of the financial support of alleged friends that are proving to be enemies. Our support would be better served here at home. But to pull all support would leave our true allies flailing in the wind and kill our alliances and influence.

      Now I know that this here is a blog endorsing Ron Paul. I’ve tried to like him and tried to agree with his policies, but they do not represent my views. Being president isn’t just about fixing domestic policy and not overspending. We have a duty to promote democracy and aid our true allies in the entire world, not just talk about it here at home. Sorry, but I just cannot vote for him based on what I have seen at the debates and what he writes about and stands for. I like some of his conservative views, but his foreign policy views are just dangerous to America and Americans.

      • DaveH

        It is largely “volatile” because the US and British busybodies have made it so, Helen. Read the link I posted above, and awaken to reality.
        Ron Paul has the wisdom of our Founders who knew that Foreign Entanglements could only lead to no good.
        Someday, the busybody involvements of our meddling politicians is going to come home to roost.

      • Blinks

        My gosh ! Why are you concerned with “our Allies”in the middle East
        when they are non existent. Last time I looked, there was only one—
        Israel !

  • JC

    I have a question about the Federal Reserve, (which isn’t Federal and has no Reserves). Where do they get the money they loan the government? (A: out of thin air, then they hand you the bill with interest)

    • Jay

      Charging interest on nothing is not too shabby, hey JC? What a bunch of skunks they are! And you would think that the American people would be up in arms about it, and yet, here we are, arguing about whether Ron Paul is good for the country. The same Ron Paul that wants to abolish the Fed. Hmm, why the opposition i wonder?

      Here’s an interesting article JC.

      According to CNBC, the Federal Reserve “is planning on monitoring what you say about it on social media platforms like Twitter and Facebook”. Apparently we are not supposed to be alarmed though, because as the CNBC headline states, the Federal Reserve just “wants to be your Facebook friend“.

      In fact, the CNBC article says that anyone that feels threatened by the fact that the Federal Reserve will be monitoring what we say on Facebook and Twitter is just “paranoid“. Well, if it came out that Barack Obama was setting up a system that would identify “key bloggers” and monitor “billions of conversations” on the Internet to see what was being said about him, wouldn’t there be thousands of articles expressing outrage? Sure there would be.

      The Federal Reserve is supposed to be an independent central bank that is above politics. So why in the world would they need to perform “sentiment analysis” on what is being said about them on “Facebook, Twitter, Blogs, Forums and YouTube“? The Federal Reserve obviously intends to identify the negative things that are being said about it and the specific people that are saying those things. So is it really being “paranoid” to point out that all of this is more than a little bit creepy?


      • JC

        Thanks Jay, Ill check it out.
        Keep fightin the good fight.

  • Tom

    Ron Paul may have appropriate views on a number of important topics, but he has one major and for me, overriding problem: he is, IMO, a moron. He hasn’t figured out yet that the people we choose to call radical Muslims have declared war on us. He likes to take it back to the overthrow of Milosevic in the ’50s. It actually goes back to more like 700 AD. They come after us about every 300 yrs. This is the current run against us. This one started in around 1928 after Mustafa Kamel threw out the imam in Istanbul and they started plotting to restore him. Jimmy “the Stupid” Carter gave them the assets of a nation state in 1979 and they showed their gratitude by declaring war on us. Pay attention, stupid. They have been repeating that for over 30 yrs.

    I could never support Ron Paul. He gives stupid a bad name.

    • former walmart person

      quick question for ya’… You seem to be so interested in policing the middle east to prevent a cause of death in America (death by muslum terrorist) which is FAR LESS than the deaths caused by automobile accidents… Why aren’t you screaming for NATO to deleiver radioactive death in the form of depleted uranium round machine gun fire to our DMVs and car dealerships lest more of us get behind the wheel? Until you reach a certain older age in your 50s and 60s where heart attack, cancer, and strokes takes over, you are far more likely to die in your own car than anywhere else. Stew on that some and get back to me. k, thanks.

    • LibRep

      Interesting to note how stupid he is considering the extensive reading assignment he gave Giulliani back in ’08 not to mention all the economic predictions he made 5 plus years ago (as seen on youtube) that have already come true.

    • bob wire

      I think you misunderstand Ron Paul Sir. ~He is not naive to the Muslim extremist question but simply electing to be a statesman about it. Willing to give the devil his due up front while demanding equal mean equal in all things and not selected things. With Liberties comes responsibilities, it’s a given understanding. The Arab world can rise to the occasion or not, it’s for them to decide and not we Americans.

      If your neighbor is not allowed to carry out his own trash, attend to daily matters, why should he bother with other things? Israel has their big boy britches on and there is little question to their sting. If these nations want all out WAR, they shall have it is spite our efforts.

      “It’s a good thing war is so awful, less men develop a fondness of it.”

      (a feeble attempt at a quote; Gen. Grant or Sherman, can’t remember)

      Only a few wealthy people and really stupid people ever wanted war that was clearly avoidable.

      But basically, Ron Paul is not bothering discuss obvious details and pander to simpler minds, getting mired in hypothetical details and squandering both words and time with trivia for entertainment value.

      This does go against Gov. George Wallace approach to stumping as he was know for saying, “Keep the message low enough so the goats can eat it”

      But he said this back in the 60′s when South Alabama had a bumper crop of goats. I would hope most Americans today are working and thinking on a higher level. Ron Paul is not even trying to addressing goats today.

      • AJ

        To Mr Wire: the quote “it is good war is awful, lest we grow too fond of it” should be attributed to General Robert E Lee. Sherman and Grant were addicted to blood. Sherman himself said that based on what he learned at West Point (USMA), he should have been convicted of war crimes in his prosecution of the war in the Confederate States.

        • bob wire

          Thanks for the correction and guidance AJ. I felt as if someone here might know and while holding great appreciation for the quote, I just wasn’t sure. Gen Robert E Lee, most fitting.

          Trivia ~ remember Lee’s his horse’s name?

          I’ll post it at the bottom of the page

          • patsy

            Traveller. I’m a native Virginian.
            We learned it in school.

    • newspooner

      You are obviously speaking from lack of knowledge. You need to spend some time in person with Ron Paul. Of all the people in politics and government that I have met and spent time with, Ron Paul is the most honest, intelligent, sane, sincere, and vital person among them. What more could America ask for? Take advantage of the opportunity to elect him now. We might never get a better chance to save liberty.

    • DaveH

      If you could just have the intelligence, Tom, to step back and imagine yourself as a citizen of another country which has become the subject of United States aggression, you might change your mind. Our military is involved with almost every war that comes along, and you in all your wisdom don’t think that might create enemies against the United States?
      Ron Paul knows what he’s talking about. You, Tom, are just an ignorant spectator at a world-wide football game cheering for your team.

    • Al Sieber

      Hey Tom, you need to worry more about Communist China and Russia than Iran.

  • Rosco1776

    Ron Paul 2012 or BU$T !!

  • R J

    While I like many of the commentators here, I’m getting tired of the perpetual Ron Paul cheering section.
    His stance on foriegn policy would precipitate a third world war. Just like the last two times we ‘left Europe to the Europeans’, or are you unaware of that history?
    We have global economies tied to the US, and global treaties we cannot abandon, not matter that we don’t completly agree with them; or even like them.
    Of the candidates we are looking at today, I prefer Michelle Bachman and Herman Cain. Mainly because they are NOT professional politicians. Like Ron Paul.

    • former walmart person

      Comparing WW2 to a hypotehical WW3 scenario is totally comparing apples and oranges. You can’t do it. First of all, we are militarlistically superior to Iran unlike Germany being technologically superior to us and Britain / France in many ways in the days prior to WW2. (It took like 4 of our crappy Sherman tanks to be able to effectively take on a Germany Panzar tank). Our policing of the middle east is just a giant boondoggle that is swiftly deleivering us to financial ruin. The middle east hates us even more that we are interferring in their countries. Think about it: would you be ok if China had tanks and troops in our streets running checkpoints??? Why is it we are allowed to police everyone else, but we can’t be policed by them? What makes our country supposedely “morally superior” to be able to police someone? Maybe its all about payment to the military industrial complex rather than genuine protection of American life in the name of fighting “terror”??

      For that matter, even if you accept that the war on terror simply must be fought or the world will end in nucelar holocaust (regardless if it breaks us financially first or not), then WHY IS OUR SOUTHERN BORDER WIDE OPEN??? If I was a terrorist wanting to use a dirty bomb I would just come across the southern border. Don’t give me this crap that we can’t patrol our border. We have effectively locked down the border between North and South Korea. Not so much a chipmunk can slip south into South Korea…

    • AJ

      But Herman Cain is a professional bull Sh_tter when it comes to the Federal Reserve!

    • Jibbs

      You should ask the American Indians about treaties that the US broke, and look what the government did to them.

      And after all these years, why do we still have a Bureau of Indian Affairs?

    • DaveH

      RJ, wake up and smell the coffee. You don’t have a clue. Getting out of other countries’ business is going to start World War III? That’s like saying not punching your neighbor is going to start a fight with him.
      Chances are that you know little about World War II, as do most Americans. But you have a unique opportunity to learn some truth, before you make yourself look any more ignorant. Read this book:

      So many brainwashed people, so little time.

  • The Resolute Voice

    That’s real good – just hammer all the Republican candidates with rumors the liberal media sets up and convinces you to use, and you’ll certainly relect Obama in 2012. Perhaps this is the endgame here?

    With liberal progressives, always be aware that their true goal for any policy is always hidden carefully behind what they claim it to be in public, i.e, Fast and Furious was really a ploy to use a crisis to get gun control; green jobs financing is a ploy to pay off top contributors with govt $$$, and Obamacare is a way to grab excessive political power and likely ration healthcare ( then all those older pesky moderate/conservative voters will die off sooner)

    In the case of picking a Presidential candidate, they want to pit conservatives against each other to weaken Republican voting power and suggest anything they can about each of the Republican candidates that might or might not be true and then hammer it home to destroy their support. Wake up people! Read Alinsky and learn the tactics.

    • dan

      Dind ding-ding…we have a winner.You must know your enemy.It’s also known as communist/Hegalian dialectics.Don’t let the conTROLed media
      define your positions or candidates.

    • DaveH

      The problem is that most of the Republicans want Big Government as much as the Democrats. There are a few exceptions, such as Ron Paul and Gary Johnson, but only a few. We can vote for Obama-lite (most of the Republican Candidates), or we can vote for Freedom. I choose Freedom. United we stand.

  • Maranatha Mark

    If the economy and Fed were our only problem, I’d be one of Paul’s biggest supporters, for on the economy, he is the man. But that is all he really has. He fails to understand the true nature of Islam and their ultimate goals, he is willing to allow Iran to have nuclear weapons, as well as other rogue states, who if they had them would pull the trigger on their use without hesitation. How many hundreds of thousands or millions of American have to die, before Paul and others like him will admit that maybe we shouldn’t have allowed these people to get nuclear weapons. This moronic stategy of allowing our enemies to attack and kill millions before we act is unacceptable, and a sure prescription for the destruction of this country. Does anyone, including Paul, believe we can withstand one major city in this country being attacked with a nuclear weapon, whether by ICBM or by suit-case nuke, where hundreds of thousands or more are killed and many times that are injured, and the blow to our economy it would deliver?!! Our non-existant border to the south could allow multiple suit-case nukes to come into the country. Again, if you don’t have a proper understanding of the driving force behind Iran and other radicalized Islamic states and enemies of the U.S. like Venezuela, North Korea, would certianly be willing to help Iran in their attack on our soil. No true conservative like the way Afghanistan and Iraq was handled. We are tired of “Kinetic Military Actions” or being the police force of the world. We are tired of being apart of an anti-American organization like the U.N., and tired of proping up tyrants to keep radicals in check. But we can’t allow our avowed enemies to get nuclear weapons, and you certainly can’t stick your chin out and let them make the first move with nuclear weapons… that is just plain stupid and suicidal! Think of it this way… are you willing to sacrifice your loved one’s in a nuclear attack so you claim we now know for sure what they intend to do. If we unleashed a full nuclear response, which I don’t think Paul has the sand to do, regardless of how bad we are attacked, will that ease your loss or make you feel better when you visit your loved ones or friends that was just outside the instant death area of the nuclear blast, but have been horribly burn and suffer from radiation sickness? This is the world we live in. Jefferson created the Marines to attack the Pirates based in Libya and northern Africa, but they didn’t declare war on the Pirates. Now I have no problem with issuing a declaration of war with Iran, if that makes everyone feel better about taking our our enemies. We also need to get out Israel’s way and let them protect themselves and do what they deem necessary to protect their citizen. WE need to quit sending money to our Islamic enemies!

    If Paul had a more common sense understanding of the Islamic threat, I’d feel better about him, but I don’t think the man has a clue. And unfortunately, we can’t survive as a isolationist country any more.

    • dan

      A million casualties mean nothing to the One world/NWO crowd…
      American ,Iranian,Iraqi…the fact that they don’t make money or gain more power with the use of nukes explains why they haven’t been used….and they ARE calling the shots. I think that Ron sees through THAT charade and is the reason he wants to disentangle with the middle-east sand trap.

    • lonetrader

      How are we preventing Iran from having a nuke? They are in the final stages as we speak or have it done already. The only reason Israel has not attacked Iran is because of our present President and his policies towards Israel. How is Iran going to deliver a nuke to the USA? If the world is so scared of Iran, we should declare war right now and blow them into the sky. We should kill every last one of them. That is how you win a war. While we are at it. let’s just blow up the whole middle east. They have been warring since the beginning of time and will never stop. There. An answer. You want war with Iran, nuke the whole middle east. Problem solved.

      • Dale on the left coast

        You live under a LOG??? Iran alread had missiles that will reach ALL OF EUROPE . . . and did I not read recently that Iranian ships will soon be off the coast of the USA?
        You sound like dear old Neville Chaimberlain . . . didn’t pay attention to what the fascists were saying in the 30′s . . . the Izzzzlamo-fascists are talking today!!!! Pay attention . . . they mean what they are saying.

    • newspooner

      Ron Paul fully understands the Islamic threat; and the communist threat (under whatever name or cover the Establishment cloaks it). Don’t let the naysayers and judasgoats lead you astray.

    • DaveH

      “unfortunately, we can’t survive as a isolationist country any more”? Anymore? What? When has our country butted out of other countries’ business in the last 100 years?
      Isolationism is a buzz word used by military statists and their Crony Capitalists in the Defense Industry to numb the citizens to reality.
      Reality is that it’s better to have friendly nations that we trade freely with, than to have enemy nations who want to crush us, and will someday when we have foolishly spent our nation into the poor house. Every great Empire has fallen to similar foolish actions brought on by the hubris of power hungry leaders. “Excessive hubris goeth before the fall”.

  • Had it

    I am afraid there is no chance for a George Washington to enter the race. Why would anyone subject themselves to attacks from every side just because their agenda is not being served. As long as money drives the race money will always win The tea party is being hijacked by all kinds of people, because there is no one organization the tea party will belong to whoever has the money. Just look at what is happening to WE THE PEOPLE everyone is using that phase. Google it and see where you end up, chances are you will end up in Obamas website. Both WE THE PEOPLE AND THE TEA PARTY representation of positive change if not protected can become anything changes we don’t want

  • Pastori Balele

    The baggage with all these GOP candidates is they are all bigots. Herman Cain clams Blacks are stupid – cannot think for themselves; Perry is racists as to call Blacks the “N” word at his house stone; Romney church (Mormon) teaches that Blacks are curse humans and that us men should have at least two wives; Bachmann says Blacks are better off as slaves. Those were leading in the polls. They are all useless as GOP WH nominee. Don’t dare recruit Chris, his wife will sue you if he dies campaigning. I am asking Republicans to start all over.

    • Bob Livingston

      Dear Pastori Balele,

      It has become apparent that charges of racism are all you have. Claiming racism in every disagreement is the refuge of the intellectually deficient. If that’s all you have to offer, please refrain from offering it here.

      Best wishes,

  • AJ

    Finally someone writes an article that tells the truth and the whole truth. How refreshing. People we need to take self responsibility and stop listening to main stream media bull crap, that the Global elites feed us and we eat like pablum. Wake up America! It’s so plain as day that we’ve been duped into believing these NWO candidates have our best interests in mind. Get it through your thick skulls!!! THEY DON’T! They want their own pockets lined and they’ll sell out to the Global Agenda in a second!

  • jS. K.

    I like Ron Paul & after reading his “End the Fed” plus G. Edward Griffin’s “The Creature from Jeykll Island” (600 pgs – a must read to understand the Fed,) I am convinced the Federal Reserve (nothing Federal about it & no reserves) is controling way too much of the world’s economy & what goes on in this world. The problem with Ron are his views on drugs, Israel, the Muslim problem, Iran. Rick Perry – someone ask him about his view on Sharia Law please and his ties to certain Muslim communities. Bob, you have a problem with every other candidate except Paul, but there seems to be no perfect candidate that fits the bill for every issue for every voter, but we still must choose. It seems at this time the economy is the most imminent crisis which is the reason I would consider Ron Paul. He has been telling us for years this economy was going down if we didn’t change things. However, like many others I am still listening and wishing Allen West was running…

    • Jeep

      I like Allen West too. But, the two (West and Paul) are pretty far apart on a number of issues. I like that Paul would really take on the Fed and entitlements, and West would continue the policy of pre-emptive strikes to protect us. I am convinced that Paul would protect America, if push comes to shove. But, I support our efforts to keep our enemies focused overseas, something more akin to Allen’s policies. Hmmm…What about a Paul/West ticket?

      • jS. K.

        Oh Yes! Paul for the economy and West for defense, foreign affairs and common sense (including understanding the dangers of Sharia law, etc). I tell everyone I meet to check out West – he is the man – a conservative with sense and a true old fashion American Patriot. I think it’s a great idea.

      • DaveH

        Don’t “preemptive” strikes make us the Aggressor, Jeep?

    • JJM

      If we heard the Perfect Candidate – it is near certainty that he is lying.
      Absolutely impossible to find someone you whole heartedly agree with – even your Spouse!! So get over it and elect the one who would support the true intents of our Founding Fathers, Ron Paul.

  • Charles bond

    WHERE is all the simple questions for OBAMA, you will not ask and he will not answere ? Charles of Waveland,MS.

  • bob wire

    Never thought I’d see a posting by Mr. Livingston that I could agree with to the word.

    You framed the quandary very nicely Mr. Livingston. It’s a heck of a pickle to be in for any stanch Conservative today.

    You call them ‘elites’, I call the ‘Non-elected Power Brokers’ or ‘GOP Leadership’, they want their man in power and to maintain status quo with only ‘Lip Service’ offered to conservatism and conservative ideas.

    If Ron Paul was ever elected ~ it would be an uphill battle and it’s very uncertain just how effective he might wield power.

    In my eyes, the GOP has always enjoyed a solid 28% of the popular vote by label recognition alone, leaving 23% up for grabs, well within the realm of possibility to capture. I know this fails to take into account the dynamics the electoral college offers and I refer to ‘Politics for Dummies’, but still any GOP nominee that is seen as ‘electable’ has a good chance at victory.

    If you can get Ron Paul nominated, I believe we can get him elected as he offers a clear alternative to what’s been happening on Capital Hill for 30 plus years.

    Perry and Rommey are GOP rank and file 1st stringers, Bachmann and Cain are simply show ponies, Newt is a flem flam book salesman and master of illusion for the simple minded, excluding RP the rest of the field is just wishful thinking.

    If package well, Ron Paul can be sold. But make no mistake, this will be the easy part. I fear he will be rendered ineffective much like Jimmy Carter or Obama once gaining the chair as I see Capital Hill a manufacturing plant of illusions and the GOP & DNC wants to keep it that way. The flow of money to the ‘rightful place’ shall not be interrupted at all cost.

    Ron Paul needs to better use the tools of communication at some point, this laying back and allowing opposition to fan themselves out early will only work for a while.

  • Obummer

    Bob Livingston, sir,
    After this comment, I am unscribing. Something is not right with you Alt-Libs when you stomp on EVERY Republican canditdate and completely excuse the real schizo nut-job wRonG Paul, who snuck in the race for the race as a Republican, but in reality is the lone Perpetual Loser!
    With him around, it’s no wonder the the other Libs continue to pick our Republican candidate. Why not be honest and upright and run as a Type-II Lib that he and you are?

    • bob wire

      Well Darn it all! We enjoy everyone here, some when they come in and some when they leave.

      That play on Ron Paul’s name and hard line approach to discussion alone place you inside a “perspective”. Over the top and out of the field of play sir.

    • Jibbs


    • JeffH

      …wouldn’t wanna be ya…

    • S.C. Murf

      Big O you are right it is time to be honest and upright and tell you that YOU are a fool, now go in the closet and make that popping sound.

      up the hill

    • Jay

      What a drama queen. Don’t go away mad, just go away!

    • DaveH

      Don’t let the door hit you in the butt, Obummer.

  • Stephan F.

    After reading Bob’s most insightful article, and the subsequent ignorant & uniformed comments made by those typical narrow-minded, constitutionally illiterate advocates of statism who casually dismiss Ron Paul & his pro-freedom philosophy, I am reminded of this quote by H.L. Mencken:

    “The men the American public admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth.”

    • jS. K.


    • DaveH

      Well done, Stephan.

  • gerald bowman

    I like Paul stance on Isreal because he said, cut the funding to Isreal and also the muslims. The muslims get 3 times or more funding than Isreal. We the people that want to fund Isreal can send all the money we want over there. That way those who don’t like Isreal are not paying taxes to support them, case closed.
    When your Bankrupt in any other case, be it business, home etc. you are required to fix it. I agree that we need to fix our bankrupt country and only way I see to do that is by returning to Constitutional Goverment and the Gold standard which makes us balance our books.
    It also says the Govt. is to defend our country and at least not get involved in wars without a mandate from the people, not the Congress.

    I have always seen what the Bible says will happen as being very accurate. It says Iran, Russia and several other countries will attack Isreal, and they will be standing alone, but it says God will fight for them. So watch what happen to those countries who
    attacks them,it will be quite a show. Look and see who is standing when its over.

  • gary walter

    Ron Paul is the only true RINO in the race. HE is a republican in aname only. In truth he is a libertarian and should run as such.

  • JJM

    Consistent stance for MANY years. Only one not likely to be corrupted by Bilderberg, NWO, etc. Will stand for the Constitution, Small Federal Gov, Personal Responsibility as well as Personal Rights, Liberty and Freedom.
    There are a few beliefs that I would hope be Tempered with the right VP; for instance, I agree with some Isolation but not Total Isolation.

  • ernest robertson

    why all the talk about Israel? is that and the rest of that erea the only thing you worry about !!!!!

  • Michael M. Kamer

    Dear Mr. Livingston,
    While you make quite a few good points about every candidate out there, you forget to vet thoroughly Ron Paul who thinks that Iran is joke, and poses no danger to the US, well you are only half right on that one, Iran is not dangerous ONLY to the US, they are a danger to world stability, they are killing US soldiers by proxy ever since the Iraq war started, you forget that the moment they acquire nuclear weapons they will proliferate them to all their terrorist organizations like Hizzballa and Hamas, among others, whose first thing to do will be to try and detonate one right here in the heart of the big satan, yet he dismisses them right out of hand, which is the same mistake made in 1929, ignoring them will not make them go away. Now to counter your line that Newt’s wife bought $100,000 worth of jewelry is totally ridiculous, this was their business, what they buy and how much money they spend on it is none of our business, at least not yet. Is there a perfect candidate there ? Of course not, but none of them are perfect, so we’ll have to chose on the basis of who is the closest to what we believe in, like they say, “2out 0f 3 ain’t bad”,, well I’m looking for 8 out of 10, and Newt, or Cain, or Santorum, or Bachman are a lot closer than Romney or Perry, I’m not even mentioning the other ones there who are totally out of whack. We need someone who will surround him/her self with good smart people who will help them do the right thing, unlike the incompetence that this fraud in chief Obama surrounded himself with, but these are the people he wondered around before he became president, why would he change after ? It’s easy to cut someone down to size, but we have the responsibility to get rid of this fraud we have today.

    • Bob Livingston

      Dear Michael M. Kamer,

      Quite the contrary, I have thoroughly vetted Congressman Dr. Paul. You are wrong that he “thinks Iran is joke (sic).” He understands better than most why Iran is what it is, and that is the US/Great Britain intelligence services meddling that deposed a democratically-elected prime minister and re-installed the Shah in 1953, and persistent meddling in the region ever since. You write: “They are killing US soldiers by proxy.” If US soldiers were not in the region, that would not be case.

      What Dr. Paul has said quite clearly is that whether Iran has a bomb or not is not our business and it is perfectly reasonable to expect they would want to have the capability of defending themselves from their enemies in the region who possess nuclear weapons. They lack a navy or missle delivery system capable of delivering a weapon against the US. We surived 40 years of Cold War against the USSR who did have capability of attacking us with a navy and missles that would reach our continent. Our policy of isolating Iran makes them our enemy. We would be better served to influence them through trade. As for their capability to attack others in the region, Israel has more nuclear weapons and technology than Iran will ever have and are perfectly capable of defending themselves if the US would remove the handcuffs we have placed on them with our foreign policy.

      You are evidently satisfied with the status quo. You are satisfied that we are spending money protecting the borders of Afghanistan and Iraq while leaving ours unprotected. You are perfectly happy that we are spending money rebuilding the infrastructure of Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya while our infrastructure crumbles, taxes rise, and the hidden tax of inflation eats away at our savings. If that’s the case, then your votes for Cain, Bachmann, Gingrich, Santorum, et al are understandable.

      Best wishes,

  • Alex Frazier

    Folks, let me give you a little 411 on our government and our constitution. Our rights are defended by the government when it means furthering immoral or unethical behavior. They are suppressed when it means supporting moral values or the freedom of individuals.

    To date, the freedom of speech has been suppressed, except when it protects pornography, homosexuality, and similar issues. The freedom of religion has been taken from our students, prohibiting them from having bibles out where they can be seen, or from praying at school. We have the right to assemble when it’s a union trying to force a business to pay what no one has a right to demand, but if you march on Washington, you get shot or beaten.

    There have been numerous laws passed on the right to keep and bear arms, which is a right that the government had no authority to infringe upon. They try during each and every administration to push some new form of gun legislation. And the purpose of the people keeping and bearing arms was to protect them from the government. Yet, if one were to so much as possess a gun in Washington without the right permits and the right description (gun advocates will know what I mean), you’ll go to jail for keeping and bearing arms.

    If you’ve ever watched an episode of COPS, then you have seen the flagrant abuse to the fourth amendment, as the police pull people over with scarcely any reason, then search their persons and their vehicle. Every time I make a deposit or withdrawl above a certain amount, the government, by law, has to be informed. Yet we’re supposed to be secure in our persons, effects, property, papers, etc.

    We’re supposed to be free from being deprived of life, liberty, or property, but if you’re pulled over while in possession of a large amount of cash, it will be confiscated without due process of law under the justification that it was going to be used for illegal purposes (in a country where we have the presumption of innocense, and no one is guilty until proven guilty). We’re supposed to be compensated for personal property that is taken from us, but our earnings are taken from us every week to support foreign aid in countries that hate us.

    We are not supposed to be excessively fined, have excessive bail required, or be subjected to cruel or unusual punishment. Yet judges will set outrageous bail amounts that a person can’t afford without mortgaging their home just to pay the bondsman. Their idea of a fine that is not excessive is ordering a poverty level person to pay $1000 when they barely make $2000 and have to pay $1800 a month just to eat and pay their utilities.

    The federal government is only supposed to have the powers specifically enumerated in the constitution. Those not specifically listed belong to the states and the people. Of those, those prohibited to the states by the constitution belong to the people. And yet, we have a federal government that thinks it has the right to fine people $98,000 for selling rabbits, or put people in federal prison for five years for selling orchids, and so on. The offenses are too many to list.

    Our government has violated the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th, and 10th amendments in the Bill of Rights, just based on what I know off the top of my head.

    The natural laws provide a simple structure. Everyone has the right to live. Everyone has the right to be free to live their life as they please. Everyone has the right to pursue happiness in their own way. And, according to the Declaration of Independence, it is to protect these God-given rights (or inherent natural rights, for those who choose with their freedom to worship nothing) that our government was established.
    It was never the role of our federal government to tells us whether or not we can use heroin. It was never the role of our government to regulate how many rabbits we can sell to our neighbors, or what flowers we could sell, whether or not we could have a beer on our front porch, what days we could or could not purchase alcohol, whether or not we could engage in a same sex union, etc.

    A man and his family ought to be able to own their property, to improve upon that property, to grow what crops they choose, to raise what livestock they choose, to trade in whatever quantitites, at whatever price, to invest their gains in whatever suits their fancy, to amass wealth, to spend themselves into poverty, to get drunk or high, etc. That man and his family ought to be able to defend themselves against intruders and invaders, from thieves and from murderers. They should be able to hunt their land, have children, and live their lives in peace. They should be able to defend themselves against an oppressive government that seeks to take those freedoms.

    That is the function of our government and constitution. For people to be free, to live, and to pursue happiness.

    Any of you who criticize Ron Paul because he doesn’t want our troops in the middle east, wants to eliminate drugs laws that have led to a large criminal element, wants to do away with income and other taxes, etc., don’t understand the country our founders established. National defense doesn’t mean attacking a country that is building weapons to defend itself. When Iran makes a move to attack us, then it will be justified. Until then, attacking Iran is an act of aggression, and no offense, but the United States is the only country in the world that has ever used a weapon of mass destruction against anyone. If anyone should be feared for possessing such weapons, it’s us. Nevertheless, here we sit, a threat to the entire world. We are known warmongers. Our greatest export is guns. We have attacked, invaded, or occupied more countries around the world than any other country or empire before us, including Persia, Greece, Rome and Britain. We presently occupy more than a hundred countries, and are fighting in at least three active campaigns right now.
    Our private property is being taken to rebuild the countries we destroyed. Our earnings and property are taxed to feed the lazy. We feed the starving people in countries that have the resources to be a major super power.

    There is only one candidate who wants to restore us to a constitutional condition, and that’s Ron Paul. Those who criticize him, or least what he stands for, are traitors to the cause of liberty. You should all move to Britain. They have a nice socialist policy that you’ll like just fine. No freedom, no guns, high taxes, wealth redistribution, guilty until proven innocent, and liberal agendas a plenty.

    Get out of my free country if you plan to contribute to taking away more of my freedoms than have been taken already.

    • JJM

      Well said – Lets show them the door.

    • Jibbs

      Facebook is doing the same thing, when you make a post about obummer, they place your comment on the obummer 2012 page page even if you have all your posts listed as private.
      All this is done without your permission or having been informed about it.

      • Al Sieber

        You got that right Jibbs, next it’ll be the thought police.

    • JeffH

      Hear Hear!

    • DaveH

      Excellent, Alex.

  • Mark Dabney

    Well said! It was clear in short order where you were going from the start – not that I am a Ron Paul sycophant. He goes to the measure he believes is safe – an understandable posture given how those that have been boldly direct have been slandered, had their political careers destroyed, imprisoned, and yes even murdered.

    I concur with the private conversation that Billy Graham had with Richard Nixon – there exists here & now a Satanic counterfeit of Judaism that the Bible calls >>The Synagogue of Satan<< [Revelation 2:9 & 3:9] which according to the BIBLE lies and slanders.

    The outright lies of Satanic Zionism MUST be refuted. While I do not feel we should offer the Machiavellian Zionist traitors that are plentiful in our corrupt syste pardon – the hostage Zionists that say that "Israel" is our "friend" I have no problem offering the later leniency – the trick is knowing the difference. If you think "Israel" is our friend – talk with Phil Tourney – a survivor of the USS Liberty – he is on Republic Broadcasting Saturdays @ 7PM Eastern 800 313-9443

    Ron is right in saying that EVEN IF Iran had a nuclear weapons program – the war mongering hype is completely disproportional. Yet all available LEGITIMATE intel shows that Iran has no nuclear weapons capability and cannot even make their own gasoline. Ahmadinijhad never ONCE made the "wipe Israel off the map" statement [] – the problem is not what he actually said – but what the ZioNazi war mongers asserted that he said based on misrepresentation.

    Pogo had it right – "we have met the enemy and he is us" or as James Madison rightly said "If tyranny & oppression ever come to this land – it will come in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy"

    So along with calling for repealing the 16th amendment rather than repudiation, the lawful recognition that it was never legitimate – there are other areas where I recognize that Paul is NOT the ideal candidate. There are areas where I recognize RP as the best we have in the way of a credible candidate. That understood – let us seek to reinstate the organic constitution – not merely take some half measures.

    • newspooner

      Sadly, you appear to have fallen for the “British Israel” crap or are simply impostering as a “conservative” to try to lead others astray. I don’t believe it will work with the intelligent readers here. They recognize that Ron Paul has no connection to phony ethnic bashing.

      • Mark Dabney

        You conjecture to readily – I agree with the Anti-Zionist JEWS that acknowledge the war crimes of Israhell – how does that make me a racist? I readily admit that I have a hard enough time sorting out what is going on within my own mind & heart – then you should examine your own as drawing unwarranted conclusions about the inner man of other people is a sad substitute for self examination which require real courage.

        I am CONSIDERING British Israel – that does NOT mean that I have adopted it. But it seems you do not want to admit that even Billy Graham has acknowledged this point – only to cower to apologize when it became public.

        The prophets of old repeatedly chastised and rebuked Israel when they carried out transgressions – now it is deemed a “blessing” to condone her crimes. Go on and serve the Satanic counterfeit of Judaism if you wish – your blood is on on your own head per Ezekiel 33

        • Dale on the left coast

          British Israelism is as bogus as the “Protocols of Zion” . . . anyone who entertains this nonsense is not understanding real history.
          Israel has been continually attacked by the Arabs since 1948 . . . to accuse the Isralis of war crimes is “LOONEY” . . . when their neighbors teach their children to hate and strap bombs on them.
          Read the book of Daniel again . . . he tells how the J*wist state will be reconstituted in the later days, in the land given them by G*d . . . and not in Washington or London as the BI loons believe . . . LOL

      • Mark Dabney

        NeoCons such as yourself – typically do not even know what the term “Conservative” or for that matter “Liberal” even means – ‘Conservative = good’, ‘Liberal = bad’ – typical LOADED terms to shut down critical thinking skills = pathetic. The term Conservative literally means ‘let’s just keep things the way they are’ which now means corrupt, unaccountable, polarized into a partisan mindset that is oblivious to its own hypocritical & egregious flaws – yet obsessed on the flaws of the other side. The term Liberal stems from the Latin Libertas- which means Freedom – the Freedom to do something different. I readily see the egregious flaws of the NeoLibs as I do the NeoCons – both sides blaming the other when the SoS controls both – the real issue is who is behind the scenes dictating policy?

        I believe in conserving what right ought to be conserved: the only legitimate function of government is to preserve LIBERTY – not sending troops to the other side of the world on what always turns out to be a fraudulent pretext – such as claiming that Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11. I have lawfully demanded the body of evidence that we were promised right after 9/11 from the congress criminal that feigns to represent me received 4/6/2011 – his name is irrelevant – I call him congressman TYPICAL. To date there has been no disclosure of any evidence whatsoever – congressman TYPICAL has by default admitted there is no actual evidence to support the claim that UBL carried out 9/11. But do you have the moral courage to take an HONEST look at the REAL evidence about 9/11 that points to TREASON??? The day before 9/11 – Rumsfeld announced 2.3 T$ MISSING. not only were the records destroyed in the Pentagon – in the smoldering hole in the conspicuous absence of the wreckage of a 757- they DID NOT EVEN SOUND THE AIR RAID SIRENS – the staff investigating the missing CAREER MILITARY PENSIONS FUNDS

        • Dale on the left coast

          Mark . . . lieberals shut down “Critical Thinking” decades ago . . . . evidence – the education system.
          There is only “One set of FACTS” Mark . . . you can subscribe to the loonie ideas like British Israelism, Bush brought down the towers, and Obammy is a legal natural born citizen. But . . . the USA is rapidly becoming Greece . . . and it is certainly not the result of Conservative thought . . . but rather Progressive/Lieberal/Socialist NONSENSE!!!

          • Mark Dabney


            “LIBERAL” as used by “conservative” ZioNazis is a LOADED term -



            Find out what happened to the stolen 2.3 T$ and there are your ‘terrists’ – as I pointed out to congresscriminal TYPICAL it is IMPOSSIBLE TO STEAL 2.3 T$ WITHOUT THE INTERNATIONAL BANKSTERS THAT FEIGN TO BE JEWISH -

            As for my view of eschatology – it it YOU that is blindly buying into things – you ignore the Anti-Zionist Jews that acknowledge the war crimes, human rights violations, atrocities and provocations of what is falsely called “Israel”

            You are typical of the brainwashed mentality – you make a baseless assertion of something you claim that I have accepted without examination – when the truth of the matter is that I am in that very process of examination that you think – according to your own words – that I did not apply. Even after I tell you in the most plain and straightforward terms that I have NOT accepted the Anglo-American/Israel view you persist in asserting that I have.

            I reject Zionism because of the clear evidence that it is fraudulent! Cyrus Scofield was funded by the same man that funded Karl Marx, namely Frederick Engles. Scofield was a con man that abandoned his wife & children, which according to the Apostle Paul makes him worse than an unbeliever.

            Should you misuse the term ‘liberal’ towards me again – you are only confessing that you are unable to think for yourself because of the Zionist CULT that has obstructed your clarity of thought. Condoning Zionist atrocities is NOT a blessing you arrogant fool – the King of the Jews Lord Jesus Christ is not for one moment fooled by the lies you devour. He will judge you harshly should you remain unrepentant.

        • Mark Dabney

          ooops CRIMINAL ELEMENTS OF OUR OWN GOVERNMENT – even if, even if, get that through your brainwashed mind – EVEN IF the official, government sponsored media conspiracy theory were true- which I have yet to see any evidence that bears the weight of scrutiny to verify.

          should you chose to persist in willful ignorance – know this: your blood is on your own head per Ezekiel 33 [as to previous response- not my appending my own response]

  • Aniko

    Alex Frazier, anarchy is what you call “freedom”? We are just about there when people don’t understand the role of the government in 21st Century United States Of America.
    Ron Paul has a “dream” of going back to the “gold standard” and using the military for defending our borders from the “inside” ONLY! This is not 18th century where to cross the ocean took weeks. Today in order to defend our borders means to go WHERE some fanatical Islamist would launch a devastating nuclear bomb!

    Ron Paul is deluding himself, not unlike Obama did BEFORE he actually got to see what we are up against! YOU think that Ron Paul or other deluded peacenik has the solution from our present day situation and you are as woefully ignorant as your idol!

    • Dale on the left coast

      Paul is almost 80 . . . not a Conservative, but a Liberarian. While I agree the Fed is a problem that needs to be dealt with . . . his lack of comprehension of global issues, the izzlamo/fascist threat and his age . . . are huge negatives.

    • Alex Frazier

      Ron isn’t my idol. I just recognize that his principles and his platform are correct. Offense intended … you’re a moron.

    • DaveH

      So you walk over to your neighbor’s house and occupy it. Is he going to love you or hate you?
      What is wrong with you people? Don’t you realize that the US is being the same kind of Aggressors that you claim to fear and despise?

  • Old Henry


    Good article. As for pointed questions, I have emailed Bachmann’s campaign – twice – with several pointed questions and never received a reply.

    In short I asked :

    What unconstitutional Cabinet positions / agencies she would ELIMINATE.

    How many overseas military bases she would close.

    How soon she would get us OUT of the Middle East.

  • DS

    If everyone stays home and doesn’t vote because they don’t like the Republican candidate, Obama will be our next president. We plan to vote for any Republican as any one is better than the present one who has done more to tear this country down in 2 1/2 years than any other I can think of. He has Muslim leanings– in fact I have heard him say on YouTube talk about “my Muslim faith”. I read today that the administration has been talking to the Muslim Brotherhood. They are are enemy folks who has declared that they want to kill us.
    Look at the way that he has been spending. It would appear that he wants to break this country. Look at the people he has surrounded himself with–some are communist, like Van Jones. Glen Beck exposed him and was helpful in running him off.

    If we don’t vote, we will deserve what we get.

    As for Israel, look at Zechariah 12:3 which says “And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
    And then verse 9. And it shall come to pass in that day, that I seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
    We are asking for trouble by not standing with Israel. I truly believe that the reason we have been so blessed all these many years is because every president has stood by Israel. Look at all the trouble we are in right now. Part of it, I believe is because Obama is not standing by the Jewish people. The first time Netanyahu came to visit the US after Obama was president, he greeted him by having him come through the back door!! Even our enemies come in through the front door.

    Please reconsider those who don’t want to vote if they don’t like the Republican nominee.

  • Dale on the left coast

    If you never watch another video, please watch this one. The speaker is an Indian Muslim who is warning us to wake up. He has tremendous courage and pulls no punches on what is happening with Islamic fascism. Make sure you listen to the end of the tape where he says we now have three members of the Muslim Brotherhood in the White House (and names them).

    He is elderly and in a wheel chair recovering from cancer treatments. Perhaps that’s why he has the courage to speak out. This is probably one of the most important messages of our day.

    • JeffH

      Dale, “Make sure you listen to the end of the tape where he says we now have three members of the Muslim Brotherhood in the White House”

      The Obama administration also has evidenced a working relationship with several U.S.-based Islamist organizations that are listed by the Brotherhood as “likeminded” organizations.
      – Azizah al-Hibri – Obama this June appointed her to the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom.

      – Rashad Hassan, who is the American ambassador to the 52-nation Organization of Islamic (Conference).

      – Dalia Mogahed – who writes (Obama’s) speeches, who comes from the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt

      Former FBI special agent John Guandolo says Obama’s ties to agents for the Muslim Brotherhood are even more extensive.

      Guandolo identified several other Brotherhood-connected agents of influence – all of whom are just as politically savvy and moderate sounding – who have worked their way into government positions, including:

      •Arif Alikhan, who was assistant Homeland Security secretary for policy development and is now a distinguished visiting professor of homeland security and counterterrorism at the National Defense University.

      •Syrian-born Kareem Shora, who is Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano’s senior policy adviser.

      •Navy Cmdr. Youssef Aboul-Enein and Jocelyne Cesari, a Muslim convert who previously worked with Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, both of whom teach at colleges within the National Defense University.

      Most certainly all three have close ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.
      Muslim Brotherhood members reportedly were invited to attend President Obama’s 2009 address to the Muslim world from Cairo. Khaled Hamza, editor of the Muslim Brotherhood website, confirmed at the time that 10 members of the Brotherhood’s parliamentary bloc received official invitations to attend Obama’s historic speech.

  • jS. K.

    Ron Paul & Perry might need to read this re Islam:


    There is no reason a candidate cannot suggest politely to the moderators that they would like to discuss more relevant issues and enlighten the audience on the import of their own questions being ignored….this takes leadership and risk the future exposure by the lib media but there are other ways to get your view to the public.

  • Bryan K Donnelly

    Ron Paul is a neo-isolationist crank who seems to get his heaviest support from John Birch Society style crazed conspiracy nuts. Its a shame for us libertarian Repbulicans that the one most closely associated with us is a baby doctor economic illiterate. Audit the “Fed” bu all means, but no nation can ever do without a central bank. Sorry Lew Rockwell and the other zanies out there.

    • Victor Heddins

      Ron Paul has just recently uncovered that the Federal Reserve Bank has loaned out $16 Trillion of our money but they won’t say who they loaned it to.

      They’re NOT Federal, they have NO RESERVE, but they are a BANK. Since the Fed opened their doors in 1913 our dollar has lost $0.97 cents worth of it’s value. You might want to research what zaney is before you start saying we can’t operate without a “Central Bank”.

    • DaveH

      It’s a shame, Bryan, that you’ve substituted adolescent manipulative tactics for knowledge.

      • Jay

        Adolescent manipulative tactics DH, or just plain fear and desperation? The edgier the criticisms…hmm, smells like panic to me!

  • Jeri Smith

    After listening to video he actually was consistent, he said “not another commission”, I agree. Congress has the responsibility of oversight. They need to grow a pair and make it happen. I like Ron Paul but he’s not an affective coalition builder to actually make the audit happen in congress. That’s what needs to happen and truly is important and the infighting needs stop. The real problem is Obama and whose pocket he resides in!

    • DaveH

      That is because the “coalition” is primarily composed of Big Government advocates who build their power and perks on our backs, thanks to a largely brainwashed populace who blindly buys into their propaganda. It’s time for American voters to wake up and get our Freedom back.

  • Larry Pierson

    Ron Paul is so naive it is unbelievable. Yes he’s right on a lot of issues but his failure to support Israel and his failure to believe the Islamists will not carry the fight to us makes him unviable.

    Tearing down the most promising candidate, Herman Cain, will not increase his chances of winning, but will help RINOs like Romney or closet liberals like Perry (yes, I live in Texas and will never vote for Perry again after he showed his true colors with the Gardasil decision the and the decision not to seek legislation to shut down sanctuary cities).

  • chuckb

    dale on the left coast, everyone should see and hear this video. very good.

  • bob wire

    General Lee’s horses name was, Traveler

    • JeffH

      Gene Autry’s horse was named Champion…Roy Roger’s horse was Trigger, Sky King’s plane was the Song Bird and Pat Brady’s jeep was named Nellybelle…and the Lawman was Marshall Dan Troop with deputy Johhny McKay… :)

      • bob wire

        Dales was Buttermilk and Gene Autry was Champion and Lone Ranger horse was Silver. That was fun. Wonder if Tonto horse had a name?

        If Chris Christie had a horse wonder what would it name be? Misery? “Catch me if you can”, “Low Rider”?

        • JeffH

          Ole Sway Back?

  • Scott D

    The comments here get wilder every day. Paul will not get my vote because of his lacking in the illegal immigraton area. Before you Rand minnions direct me to his site I would like to direct you to Numbers Paul is very weak on illegal immigration. The true job creator in this country is to send illegal immigrants home by taking the magnet away from them. Employ true citizens of the U.S. and there would be less unemployment. Less local government services would be stressed, etc.

    • JeffH

      Scott D, while I do use NumbersUSA as a tool I do not agree with their grading system…and this is what NumbersUSA has on Paul.
      You may want to re-think your endorsement of NunmbersUSA and their assessment of Ron Paul.

      At the Republican debate on September 7, 2011, Rep. Paul said: “Obviously, [illegal immigration is] a very big problem. I think we need to remove the incentive — easy road to citizenship. Nobody has mentioned the fact that they qualify for benefits as well, you know, the welfare benefits. We shouldn’t have to give — the state of Texas shouldn’t be forced to provide free health care and free education.”

      During the debate at the 2011 Iowa Straw Poll on August 11, Rep. Paul said, “I don’t think we should give amnesty and [let illegal aliens] become voters…. I don’t believe in giving entitlements to illegal aliens, and I don’t support a mandate on the states to do so.”

      In his 2011 book Liberty Defined, Rep. Paul says we shouldn’t “punish third parties for not being keen to act as law enforcement agents in regard to illegal immigration. Blaming American employers and fining them for hiring an individual, directly or indirectly, possibly with a counterfeit identification, strikes me as a compulsory servitude not permitted under the Constitution. Determining who is legal or not is a police and court function, not a responsibility of private business..”

      In his 2011 book Liberty Defined, Rep. Paul notes that if government-mandated free services and the government-created unemployed crisis were “fixed,” then the resulting “free and prosperous economy” would look for labor and “immigrant workers would be needed and welcomed. This need could be managed by a generous guest worker program.” Rep. Paul continues by saying we should “restore our economy to a healthy free market with sound money and eliminate deficit-financed government. A vibrant economy will minimize the problems and produce a high demand for both domestic and immigrant labor” and “with free markets and private property, a need for immigrant labor becomes obvious. Make it easy and legal with a generous visitor worker program.”

      • Scott D

        Your point. Jeff? You have just re-enforced my point. Employers already do background checks. I have worked in industries where employers knowingly employ undocumented workers for the obvious reasons and it is not because U.S. citizens will not do the job (case in point-the pallet makers in Texas and almost any beef processing plant in the U.S., Panera and just about all fast food restaurants,etc). The proposed E-verify bill that just went through committee will go a long way to eliminate the magnet. E-verify is relatively easy and effective. I have used it. The U.S. has good immigration laws for the most part, The government needs to enforce them. E-verify will do more to create jobs than any program the government has instituted in the last 10 years if not longer. I do not see the immigration issue being very high up on Rand Pauls priority list.

        • JeffH

          My point is that is that #1, we’re talking about Ron Paul, not Rand and that the laws are not strictly enforced by the US government as they should be.

          The only way to assure that only legal workers are hired is for the federal government to create a new database, E-Verify, that records every new hire and monitors all employees in the nation. That, of course, is the real goal.

          I can see that your interpretation of Ron Paul’s comments and stance on immigration is quite diffrent than what he has stated. Again, if you make your decision based soley on how NumbersUSA views E-verify, which at one time I thought was a good idea too, then I really suggest you delve deeper into the negative consequences of a national database like E-verify.

          A good place to start…E-Verify and the Emerging Surveillance State

          • Scott D

            Jeff, I question DeWeese figures in the link you provided-not the first time I have read this rant but by different authors. Excuse me for the brain fart Rand verses Ron. As far as your fear of a national ID–that train left the station a long time ago. With SS cards, drivers licences, credit cards, facial recognition on serveilence cameras (post a picture on facebook with a name and the next time a picture of you is posted anywhere on facebook-facebook will associate your picture with your name) there is no privacy anymore. With computers-a national ID is not needed. If they want to know about you, where you are, where you have been, a national ID is not needed or required and takes little time for the government. And what business will hire you without a SS card?

            My point is that this is a country more concearned with the predicament of a cheap illegal workforce and appeasing them, Than putting legal workers to work. I realize there is no perfect answer to the problem, but E-verify seems to be the best answer to come down the track for a long time. Take the magnet away-America for American citizens. Lets take care of our citizens before we sell out to non-citizens. Is that not what Paul says-America first? Soo why is he not strong on this issue?

          • JeffH

            It’s called personal freedom and liberty and both you and I know that our government has become an intrusive controlling and corrupt government and that is not the principles that this country was found upon. I agree wholeheartedly with Dr. Paul and while I agree with some of the issues along with NumbersUSA, E-verify is not one of them.

            Also, I don’t believe that Weeson’s article was a rant and Ron Paul isn’t about ignoring immigration, illegal or otherwise…quite the opposite, but he isn’t going to support legislation that infringes on freedom and liberty, which is exactly what E-verify does.

          • bob wire

            That could be due to where Ron Paul spent much of his life. Lake Jackson down in Texas bayou country. It’s a time capsule of sorts. Very red neck, everybody knows everybody, their family by generation, their dog, where they bank, work, live and go to church. People of all colors and everyone knows their place in society and tend to not mind staying there. They don’t have racial issues flaring up ~ normally. Everyone is respected for staying in their “place”. If they find need to go beyond their station they ask to be indulged and granted acceptance.

            Not a perfect setup perhaps, but unwritten rules applies and everyone knows them. The old South. The people don’t really like laws, they are too restrictive to everyone. It’s blend in or move on.

            I think this explain a lot about Ron Paul’s views and hand off attitude.

            I enjoyed it, but I was young and naive to big city ways and painted up wonderfully wicked city women.

  • http://none RPaul or same ol’

    I’ll take 30 years of voting for our Constitution as opposed to the rest any day. Anyone else is for the kool-aid drinkers and main stream media. Status quo…not for me. Great article by the way!

  • Alex

    Thank God there is no one on the GOP roster who will be able to unseat the disappointing President Obama.

    As weak as Obama has shown himself to be, it is imperative that he be reelected so that the corporations stop destroying the middle- and lower-classes.

    Another Reich Wing GOP “leader” will surely further dismantle the environmental protections this world needs and continue to allow Capitalism to dictate our disastrous foreign policy.

    REMEMBER: The Bush/Cheney White House IGNORED warnings that Al Qaeda planned to fly passenger aircraft into tall buildings, GAVE UP on finding Osama bin Laden and instead tossed over 5000 of your children into the mass grave of Iraq. President Obama DID NOT give up on finding bin Laden and has also dealt serious problems to the Al Qaeda leadership.

    Stop worrying about replacing President Obama—you can’t, not with the parade of clowns the GOP trots out. Instead, work for the betterment of your fellow citizens by insisting that your Rethuglican representatives stop hurting Amerikan families. Over THREE QUARTERS of the US populace want the wealthy to pay their fair share in taxes—-75 per cent!!—you Fright Wingers need to stop kissing the rear ends of the Koch brothers and think about your children.

    • Jay

      Actually Alex, his own people are going to throw him under the bus, so we are not worried. Keep sipping the kool-aid comrade!

      • bob wire

        Well Jay? ~ hmm? first we and bad for not seeing his faults and calling him Savior and now we are throwing him under the bus.

        It can’t be both! or can it?

        Most Democrats will rally behind “O” regardless of their displeasure with him. Where “O” is hurting is where state GOP governors are passing laws that restrict votes rights and opportunities to even vote! Closing selected polling stations, making early voting difficult, demanding certain ID. Making registering a laborious process for first time, students and change of address voters.

        The GOP plans to win regardless! If they have to tie people up and keep them from the polls to do it! ~

        The importance of midterm election results is crystal clear today. The DNC made a poor midterm showing, to many simple failed to show up and now we find ourselves compromised in even trying to accessing the polls and cast a ballot.

        • Alex Frazier

          That’s racist. They just want to tie people up to keep them from voting for a black guy.

          j/k of course.

        • Jay

          Your statement BW is nothing more then pure conjecture. Please provide some evidence to back-up your claim. If insisting on having a form of structure, guidelines, in the voting process, in order to ensure some measure of integrity be preserved, is regarded by you, a conspiracy to control the vote and ensure desired outcome, i would then draw your attention to Acorns previous shenanigans and point out to you that that is precisely how Mr. O was able to acquire the majority vote! Where O is hurting is precisely for the reasons you just mentioned, but have inverted them, or deflected them away from the “holy one”and his pesky minions of parasites. You can fool some of the people, some of the time…

          • bob wire

            Well Jay, I see little reason to offer support to current events.

            If you wish to justify all this activity to restrict the casting of votes by inciting the acrom Acorn that’s up to you. But that doesn’t change the fact that access to the polls place and especially in democrat leaning area is being impeded today.

            Acorn is being used in much the same way the welfare Cadillac recipients was used, to justify an’action’. If you wish to over kill ants with a hammer. You can.

            If you can, why not? If you should is not even being asked.

            Just allow all to understand such actions and behavior does not have to be exclusive to the GOP when the shoe is found on the other foot. You will howl and cry large crocodile tears with claims of it being unfair.

          • Jay

            Fine, but i asked you for evidence to back up your claim. Are you talking about illegals excluded from the process? Are you alluding to the prevention of same person voting multiple times? What are you really saying? Can you be more specific? And please provide facts!

    • Alex Frazier

      What sort of compensation would you suggest for the wealthy, whom you propose to fleece in order to feed and house the less fortunate? After all, the constitution does provide that private property shall not be taken without just compensation. But then again, the constitution also says that a citizen can’t be deprived of property without due process of law.

      Oh, and when all those wealthy people are brought low by heavy taxation, who do you suggest will create profitable companies that produce demand consumables and employ people?

      By the way, when the wealthy get tired of being taxed to death, and of being punished for succeeding in their “pursuit of happiness,” you will, I hope, remember not to whine about them moving to another country where they aren’t oppressed by the local government.

      When you’re standing in a bread line because our country, lacking lucrative business, has been reduced to a welfare state wholly dependent on the government, please don’t take more than your fair share.

      Oh … you might want to get started on that share the wealth program. I’m sure you know someone less fortunate than yourself. How about taking some of what you have and distributing it to those who don’t have as much. After all, fair is fair.

      It makes me sick to think that I was once confused for you, and I now understand how they knew the difference. Believe it or not, there were some on these threads that had started to see you in a new light of respect because of me. lol.

      What a disappointment.

      • Alex

        Where, Bright One, are any of the jobs from TEN YEARS of the Bush Tax Cuts?

        • Jay

          Jobs? Why heck, Obama got rid of them all! For some strange reason O doesn’t approve of people having jobs! Very strange…But the question begs: How can you destroy a country where people are prosperous, happy, and healthy? Well, you can’t. But…and I’ll let you connect the dots Alex. I’ll give you a hint, “Federal Reserve”!

          • bob wire

            Come on Jay, keep it in the field of play.

  • LANI

    I wonder if during the debates that Obummer will eventually have to participate in, they will ask him about the $$$$$ he has given to all his friends such as Solyndra and the Half a BILLION Dollars! Along with his involvement with the Unions. It will be interesting to see what kind of questions he will be asked by the media

    • bob wire

      I doubt it, why should it. ~ It’s failure is just that, a failure. Beyond that, it’s only political fodder, a spit ball. There were no illegal activity’s or questionable intent uncovered so far.

      And besides that, the debates questions and topics are doled out in canned fashion and some intent made at even distribution.

      May the most nibble,most prepared, most knowledgeable, most charismatic win. Which bye the bye is rarely clear and rarely still agreed on.

  • Victor Heddins

    I like Ron Paul, y’all ! ! !

  • Thumbs down surahs Laws

    We have no conservatives not one has spoke against the Islamic surahs laws to be outlawed in America,the surahs will strike down our contstitution nip in the butt befor it takes root,Eather that or we will pay the pipper.

  • chuckb

    alex, are you missing the wall street protest, sounds like your kind of rhetoric.



    1. STOP TEXAS from transferring youth with GENETIC BRAIN DISORDER into ADULT PRISON by 2012.
    2. NOTE: DA has another CANTU Case that follows her still, Ruben Cantu Innocent Executed.
    3. 2010 was CAMPAIGN YEAR (R) District Attorney SUSAN D REED and NEW Judge LISA K JARRETT.
    4. Minor Child Prisoner: Bryce Seton Vandergrift. Clemens Unit, 11034 hwy 36 Brazoria, TX. 77422
    5. Case:2010-CR-5794B{D436}. TDC:01-66-1857 #08508535 PR: 90979792. Atty Anthony B Cantrell.
    6. Arrested at age 15, on 12-31-2009 or 01-01-2010 DOB: 09-09-94 ht: 6 ft.3
    7. Co Defendant: Nicholas Daniel Cantu. 01-65-8805 Tried Separately. Public defender James Wheat.
    8. Capital Murder of Mr. Fred * CANTU * Jr. RIP “Much Respect” Before he died, Fred named NICK.
    9. 30 yr <–Lie. Courts state lower sentences than what really is, because life w/o parole organizations
    will consider assisting. DNA real or fabricated/planted, is being securely sealed for same reason.
    10.The True Sentence, Transcripts, PLEA Agreement, warrant & JUVI medical records being WITHHELD.

    To Whom It May Concern: On Behalf Of My Child 2011

    I am the mother of the above minor child named Bryce. I am requesting that my
    son not be given the choice to choose to, or not choose to, take his current daily
    medication of 500mg of Depakote, for his prison diagnosis of bipolar. My child has
    a well documented history since birth. His history shows that he is not competent
    to make sound decisions for his well-being or for what is in his own best interest
    in matters such as these. Not as an adolescent or as an adult. This child being
    predisposition for schizophrenia adds to this inability.

    Early in the year 2006, while living in Florida in my care, Bryce's new emerging
    disorder was bipolar. Bryce was placed on 500mg of Depakote. This was prescribed
    for him, by his long time psychiatrist since age four and up until January 2007.
    In the year 2006, David Vandergrift, who is Bryce's father and my former husband
    since 1999, had convinced me that if our son lives with him, Bryce would receive
    more opportunities. David had been enticing our son all year with many things,
    including a dog named Chip who was waiting in the back yard. I wanted our son to
    have more and agreed that this was advantageous for Bryce. Our joint custody and
    shared parental rights remained.

    Between 2007 and 2009, living in San Antonio, Texas, in the care of his father and
    step mother, until Patricia divorced David in June 2009, Bryce's Depakote was
    being withheld. Through out these few short years, our child's full "SUCCESSFUL"
    Treatment Plan that includes his vital daily medications, was systematically being
    dissolved. It turns out that the new psychiatrist our son was seeing was also the
    head doctor to Juvenile Detention Center Offenders, 11 yrs. The Juvenile court room
    is in this same building. It's new Judge, found my child to be a "Competent Adult"
    who was guilty beyond any reasonable doubt! I was present for four of the hearings.
    Also, Senior Advocate Elva Cardenas Of DISABILITY RIGHTS TEXAS refuses assistance.

    It should be noted that many doctors including psychiatrist, have been known to
    give a wrong diagnosis. Dr. Patrick Holden's records on our child is a good
    example. Yet in spite of a wrong diagnosis, it is still possible to be on a right
    treatment plan. Unfortunately this was not the case for my child. This doctor had
    also given Bryce a very "WRONG MEDICATION", Ritalin, 25 mg for 60 days.

    All too often when someone mentions their former spouse in the manner that I
    do, there is a jump to the conclusion that this must somehow be related to some
    personal vendetta. Yet if this person tells what their former spouse did in relation
    to harming their own child, and factual data is made available, simply put…
    A jump to a false conclusion, will only deter more help for our son.

    While in Florida in my care, our son was and still is a well liked and loved child.
    Bryce "did not" experience years of horrible side effects from his medications. If
    there were troubling side effects, these were quickly noted and promptly rectified.
    Sometimes it's the teacher that first observes something different. Or it's seen
    during an as needed therapy session. When in San Antonio Texas, there is always
    that possibility that had Bryce's father, his step mother and the new psychiatrist,
    kept Bryce with a therapist for more than the 4 visits, that our son had with a
    Dr. R. Theis, as is clearly outlined in his medical records as part of his treatment
    plan that is to be continued, then possibly this psychologist would have eventually
    done a history on Bryce, and found that he was being medically neglected and this
    was harming him, and that his mother, Ms. D M M Pelletier was being shut out.

    Before 2007, The troublesome side effects that our son endured were, Abilify 15mg
    caused him to be constipated, give a daily stool softener. His Clonidine 0.1mg causes
    sleepiness. So you give it to him at bed time. If you do not give Bryce his Clonidine,
    he can become sleep deprived. His other medications of 40mg of Strattera and
    Riperdal at 0.5mg, were also to be taken daily. It may sound like a lot of medication
    to some, Yet the "unaltered facts" show that for years, these medications assisted our
    son in maintaining his right to quality of life. Fine tweaking as needed is an ongoing
    process for millions of men, women and children who need their daily medications.
    In school since kindergarten, Bryce learned with the assistance of an IEP, Individual
    Education Plan as part of this successful treatment plan… 2007-2009 dissolved.

    The facts are that Bryce Seton Vandergrift did not shoot or kill anyone. Though
    he believes he has. This was continuously force-fed to him by those he trusted,
    including the hired defense attorney Anthony B Cantrell. Bryce's father and Nick's
    mother was in agreement with the unlawful acts against Bryce. Due to his
    genetic brain disorder & mental impairments, our son is more easily manipulated
    and led to go against what is in his own best interest. He has Associated Disorders
    OCD, ADHD, LDs. His disability status of *Other Health Impaired* is his verification.
    As is his well documented life's history of continued progress and success until
    January 2007. This well documented history includes records of his care in San
    Antonio, Texas. These records are his proof, that for what ever blame he may have
    taken in this tragedy, Bryce is not culpable for his current tragic position. Those
    whose care he was entrusted to, are. The new psychiatrist knew this, and that is
    the motive of the TX Medical Board and Juvenile court, to cover up for their own.

    Many of us have heard that inside those prison walls, human beings emotions and
    feelings become dull. As Bryce's mother, I almost hope that this will be the same
    for my child. It's remarkable how the mechanisms of the mind can move one to a
    "safe place" He is a HIGH RISK for suicide. It's just a matter of time before Bryce
    turns eighteen on 09-09-2012 and is transported into Notorious Unit with adult men.
    What will prison systems do when my son is not on his Depakote? They will enable
    him. Presently, TDC personnel block certain pieces of mail I send to my son. Mail
    that pertains to my ability to help my child legally. They are decreasing Bryce's HOPE.

    As his mother I have never and would never, agree to nor suggest that our son
    not take his daily medications. Would you really give this choice to a minor who
    has been on psychiatric medications since age four? In Florida for all his years
    on his treatment plan, Bryce has done great. In light of this information I ask
    that you give my request serious consideration. Do not allow my minor child,
    my son Bryce, to choose or not to choose to take his bipolar medication.

    Well documented history up to present, including Substantial Evidence Available.

    Kind Regards, * Seeking Funding/Donation For Legal Assistance.*

    Requesting a dollar and a prayer…
    For- Bryce Seton Vandergrift Bryce S. Vandergrift
    c/o Ms. D M M PELETIER {Mother} TDC 01-66-1857
    4604 Claymore Dr. Suite 301 11034 hwy 36
    Tampa, Florida. 33610-8086 Brazoria, TX. 77422

  • Allan

    Bob -

    Just curious. Anything you specifically disagree with Ron Paul on?

    • Bob Livingston

      Dear Allan,

      On broad policy, I can’t think of anything. I am disappointed that he has not been more outspoken on 9/11 questions and Obama’s eligibility to hold office.

      Best wishes,

  • Jay
  • Jay

    Some quotes about the Federal Reserve:

    “I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country [by signing the Federal Reserve Act of 1913]. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”
    - Woodrow Wilson

    “The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson. History depicts Andrew Jackson as the last truly honorable and incorruptible American president.”
    - Franklin D. Roosevelt

    “Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves.”
    - Andrew Jackson

    “When the President signs this act [Federal Reserve Act of 1913], the invisible government by the money power — proven to exist by the Monetary Trust Investigation — will be legalized. The new law will create inflation whenever the trusts want inflation. From now on, depressions will be scientifically created.”
    - Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr.

    “The financial system has been turned over to the Federal Reserve Board. That Board administers the finance system by authority of a purely profiteering group. The system is Private, conducted for the sole purpose of obtaining the greatest possible profits from the use of other people’s money.”
    - Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr.

    “The Federal Reserve System is nothing more than legalized counterfeit.”
    - Ron Paul

    “It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
    - Henry Ford

    “I believe that if the people of this nation fully understood what Congress has done to them over the last 49 years, they would move on Washington; they would not wait for an election… It adds up to a preconceived plan to destroy the economic and social independence of the United States!“
    - George W. Malone

    “We have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks, hereinafter called the FED. They are not government institutions. They are private monopolies which prey upon the people of these United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers.”
    - Louis McFadden

    “It was not accidental [the 1929 stock-market “crash”]. It was a carefully contrived occurrence. … The international bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here so that they might emerge as rulers of us all.”
    - Louis McFadden

    “Some people think the Federal Reserve Banks are United States Government Institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers.”
    - Louis McFadden

    “Before passage of this [Federal Reserve] Act, the New York Bankers could only dominate the reserves of New York. Now, we are able to dominate the bank reserves of the entire country. ”
    - Nelson Aldrich

    “I am myself persuaded, on the basis of extensive study of the historical evidence, that… the severity of each of the contractions – 1920-21, 1929-33, and 1937-38 – is directly attributable to acts of commission and omission by the Reserve authorities and would not have occurred under earlier monetary and banking arrangements.”
    - Milton Friedman

    “The Federal Reserve definitely caused the Great Depression by contracting the amount of currency in circulation by one-third from 1929 to 1933.”
    - Milton Friedman

    “Nothing did more to spur the boom in stocks than the decision made by the New York Federal Reserve bank, in the spring of 1927, to cut the rediscount rate. Benjamin Strong, Governor of the bank, was chief advocate of this unwise measure, which was taken largely at the behest of Montagu Norman of the Bank of England….At the time of the Banks action I warned of its consequences….I felt that sooner or later the market had to break.”
    - Bernard Baruch

    “The high office of the president has been used to foment a plot to destroy America’s freedom, and before I leave office I must inform the citizens of this plight.” (November 12, 1963)
    - John F. Kennedy (Date of Kennedy Assassination : November 22, 1963)

    “The dollar represents a one dollar debt to the Federal Reserve System. The Federal Reserve Banks create money out of thin air to buy Government Bonds from the U.S. Treasury…and has created out of nothing a … debt which the American people are obliged to pay with interest.”
    - Wright Patman

    “In the United States today we have in effect two governments. We have the duly constituted government….. Then we have an independent, uncontrolled and uncoordinated government in the Federal Reserve System, operating the money powers which are reserved to Congress by the Constitution. ”
    - Wright Patman

    “Capital must protect itself in every way… Debts must be collected and loans and mortgages foreclosed as soon as possible. When through a process of law the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and more easily governed by the strong arm of the law applied by the central power of leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. This is well known among our principle men now engaged in forming an imperialism of capitalism to govern the world. By dividing the people we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us except as teachers of the common herd.”
    - J. P. Morgan

    “In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. … This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists’ tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. If one grasps this, one has no difficulty in understanding the statists’ antagonism toward the gold standard.”
    - Alan Greenspan

    “By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens. There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose.”
    - John Maynard Keynes

    - “The Federal Reserve Bank is nothing but a banking fraud and an unlawful crime against civilization. Why? Because they ‘create’ the money made out of nothing, and our Uncle Sap Government issues their ‘Federal Reserve Notes’ and stamps our Government approval with NO obligation whatever from these Federal Reserve Banks, Individual Banks or National Banks, etc.”
    - H. L. Birum, Sr.

    “Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes the laws.”
    - Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    “I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire, … The man that controls Britain’s money supply controls the British Empire. And I control the money supply.”
    - Baron Nathan Mayer Rothschild

    “What good fortune for governments that the people do not think.”
    - Adolf Hitler

    “When you or I write a check there must be sufficient funds in our account to cover that check, but when the Federal Reserve writes a check, it is creating money.”
    - Boston Federal Reserve Bank

    “When a country embarks on deficit financing and inflationism you wipe out the middle class and wealth is transferred from the middle class and the poor to the rich.”
    - Ron Paul

    “Remember, Alan Greenspan was a member of Ayn Rand’s collective. To understand this is to understand why we are doomed with the Federal Reserve.”
    - Peter Fonda

    • Al Sieber

      Thanks for the quotes Jay.

  • Average Joe

    I have said this before, but I think it is worth saying again:

    If it weren’t such a serious matter, it would be almost funny…listening to everyone complaining that this candidate did this…or that candidate did that ( as if the thigs that they complain about is something new….they aren’t).
    Then, when anyone points out that there is one candidate out of the whole batch ( both sides)….who has never done any of these things, who has always been honest, forthright and a defender of the Constitution….someone who has stood up for smaller, less intrusive government, sound currency and personal freedoms…….everyone goes wild … calling the man everything except…a viable candidate.
    Why is that?
    It is obvious to me ( as it should be to everyone else) that what we have been doing….ISN”T WORKING…..and maybe…just maybe, it’s time to take a new approach to the way this nation is beng run. Maybe, just maybe it’s time to stop electing “business as usual” “mainstream” candidates….who continue to run our nation into the ground while ignoring the will of the people.
    If we were to elect Dr. Ron Paul, could he really be any worse than what we’ve had over the last 40+ years (both sides)?
    If we were to elect him and he doesn’t make changes that positively affect our nation….can we not vote him out in another 4 years?

    Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity was doing the same thing over and over…and expecting to get a different result. Isn’t it time that we stopped the insanity?
    While I am not asking anyone to vote for any particular candidate, I will ask that you spend more time actually looking into all of the candidates’ backgrounds ( voting records, campaign finances…who they’ve made deals with etc.). learn everything you can about the candidates (not the MSM talking heads versions…do the research yourselves), so that on election day….you can make an informed decision about who you want to represent you in
    Remember, what they do is a direct reflection on us…..if they do foolish things….it makes us look like we elected foolish people….which means we look like fools for electing them in the first place.
    I don’t know about anyone else, but I am tired of the insanity and will be casting my vote for Ron Paul. You can say that I am wasting my vote….well , I guess that’s OK….it is after
    all…MY….vote……it doesn’t belong to any party or candidate….it belongs to me …to cast as my conscience
    I hope eveyone makes informed decisions concerning our future as a

    The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, deliberate, contrived
    and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.
    John F. Kennedy

  • Mad Max

    It doesn’t matter. They don’t have an answers or clue to fix our problems.

    Memo to America: Stop waiting for Democrats and Republicans to save you. It’s bad
    for your health and your future. Can’t you tell?

    Read “Common Sense 3.1” at ( )

  • bob wire

    Well from all the posting so far, I’m thinking Ron Paul needs to better explain how disengaging American influence in the middle east and allowing it to “free wheel” and Israel not be treated as a little brother might serve American interest.

    He should offer us his vision for immigration and anchor babies and the Dream act.

    his ideas on the future of Social Security.

    maybe he has and I missed it or it’s still not clear.

  • WTH

    “Except that Cain did say that and it is on the record here. According to Cain, there’s no need to audit the Federal Reserve because “all you have to do is call them up and ask” what you want to know and they’ll tell you.”

    He’s joking, right? He can’t be serious.

  • Glenn Filipponi

    Obviously there are a few “bad apples” within your current government, some just bruised and a few down right rotten, and the bad choices they make affects Canadians as well as yourselves. I sure hope Ron Paul is elected as your next leader, if he loses I’m getting some ky jelly instead of taking whats coming dry!

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    Of course I’ll vote for any Republican over the ‘One Big Awful Mistake America’ of 11/4/2008, even if it’s (a Bronx Cheer!!) Nitwit Romney. In fact, I’d vote for my brother’s dog over BHO!! But we have 2 good choices – Michelle Bachmann and Herman Cain. Ron Paul may be good on some issues, but he’s like George McGovern on foreign policy. As Mark Levin suggested, the Gop could have a huge landslide victory in 2012, IF they nominate the right cnadidate(s). Mark also said that if the GOP nominates another nincompoop, it’ll be a close race, and/or BHO could be re-elected (A REAL DISASTER!!)

    I don’t know why we see so much mania or enthusiasm about ‘Krispy Kreme’ Christie. (BTW, that’s what Mark Levin has called Christie on the radio.) It’s true that Christie is an improvement over his Democrap predecessors in the blue state of NJ. And Christie would be an improvement over the One Big Awful Mistake America of 11/4/2008. But Krispy Kreme is clearly not a conservative, and there are better GOP candidates, as I wrote above. Furthermore, if Christie doesn’t want to run, then good!! Leave him alone. If we’re going to pressure someone to run for POTUS, then why not draft a true solid conservative such as Jim DeMint, Sarah Palin or Marco Rubio??

  • Peter

    Cain is probably right about ‘auditing’ the Federal Reserve. It isn’t a problem with the numbers, it’s a problem with the basic principle. There were booms and busts before the FR, and one of its main functions was to provide a more level economy. That purpose has failed, so maybe we should return to the older, non-Federal control model.

  • g

    Ron Paul is doing his job, he does it for us.

  • AUMom

    Ron Paul is right about so many things; however, he is wrong about the most important issue of all – abortion. The fifth amendment says that life cannot be taken without due process. How does his promotion of abortifacients support the fifth amendment?

    He also says that in taking the morning after pill it would be impossible to prove a crime has been committed. This is true. But the reverse is also true. It is possible that a crime was committed. Wouldn’t a truly pro life candidate discourage the use of all aborifacients?

    • Bob Livingston

      Dear AUMom,

      I have addressed this topic with you before, so I know now that it’s not that you are misinformed, it is that you are lying about Ron Paul. Ron Paul believes in the sanctity of life. Go to his issues page and see what he has to say about abortion:

      Ron Paul is an OB/Gyn. Here is what he has said: “I never once considered performing an abortion, nor did I ever find abortion necessary to save the life of a pregnant woman.” He believes “beyond a doubt that a fetus is a human life deserving of legal protection, and that the right to life is the foundation of any moral society.”

      Here is an excellent article that lays out and refutes the lies the Religious Right is telling about Ron Paul.

      If you are going to continue to lie about Ron Paul’s stand on issues, you will have to do it somewhere else. Lies will not survive here because we deal with the truth, no matter how uncomfortable it makes people feel.

      Best wishes,

  • polishsniper

    I agree with Herman ,these idiots who ask these questions are there to discredit anyone that runs against their wanna be prez, BO .The media tries to degrade anyone that isn’t a wax job like they are.Herman shoves it right back down their throats and they don’t like it one bite.The rest of the candidates are your typical politicians.Ron Paul’s foreign policies suck. That’s why he’s going nowhere.Herman is right Federal Reserve questions are as stupid like the ones, I phones or cell phone ,el-stupid questions from the same morons that run the White House. Have you heard of anything intelligent from these people in the last 3 years. Liberalism is a mental disease,bottom line.

  • Jason

    Ron Paul is the only logical choice for President. Ron Paul predicted the collapse. He has been talking about auditing the Fed for over 30 years. He is the only one who is consistent and honest.

    Everyone may not agree with ALL of Ron Paul’s positions… but at least he is honest. If you elect someone else, you really don’t know what they really believe and what they will do once elected. At least you can trust Ron Paul to do what he says. He tells it like it is, even if it is unpopular and he has an incredible history of being right about pretty much everything he talks about.

    Herman Cain has been wrong about 99% of the time. One week before the collapse, Herman Cain said there wouldn’t be a financial crisis and the economy is great! He said there was not a housing bubble. He said the Fed has nothing to hide and they are completely transparent. He said they do not need an audit. He supports the bailouts. How can anyone trust this man to run the country?

    A vote for Herman Cain is a vote for the same… or worse!

    Do the research people! The truth is out there:


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