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Who Among Us Doesn’t Want Law and Order?

November 19, 2009 by  

Who Among Us Doesn’t Want Law and Order?

How have we evolved into a faceless people? How did we become politically correct?

Sometimes, when I get galled and tired from the tasks of the day, I watch the national news. What do the newscasters really say? What news do they really tell us in America?

I am duly impressed by how articulate they are and how they never say anything. They are trained icons at having NO OPINION.

It’s my conclusion that to be politically correct and socially acceptable in America is to be a faceless people. Just have no opinion.

Oh yes, we can master the King’s English as long as we don’t say anything. Does this remind us of the three monkeys who “See no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil?”

This is modern America, faceless and soulless. Scripture suggests that we are neither hot nor cold and that God spews us out. (Rev. 3:15-19) So how do we learn? How do we approach reality?

I have my own rules. My rule—and I have taught this to my children—is to believe just the opposite of government and political pronouncements. This is the most direct route to sobriety and a peek at the real world.

The system can thrive with no opinion. With this syndrome, “they” can milk us and shear us and keep us on the animal farm. We are as docile and obedient as cattle.  We can be intellectual giants and, as far as practical reality, be complete idiots.

But what if our inner soul begins to suspect disharmony of and disgust with the monotony of the system and the sickening conformity of the masses? The people can have literally the firepower of armies and still be under disciplined control, just so long as they believe the lies of the system.

How else can countries field multi-million-man armies that really don’t know who their enemies are, but are willing to fight to the death for some nebulous propaganda? Ignorance is not bliss. It is sorrow and death.

If we do not know reality we cannot know right from wrong. We have no moral ethic or restraints.

There is a system. Outwardly and ideally it is the rule of law and a moral order. Inwardly and secretly it has an unannounced agenda of human and population control, regardless of the name of the system or the form of government. The same secret elite rules. They have the power of life and death through and with thought control.

There can be no secret elite without thought control. Man must not be allowed to think his own thoughts, but must think the thoughts of the system. And he must not know the difference.

Mind control is used to extract wealth and human freedom without consent. The most perfect crime is when the people who carry out the will and purpose of the system do not suspect the complete shroud of thought control. They suspect nothing.

There are those who see and there are the many that are blinded. What gives us perception and vision? Knowledge is the mechanical attribute of the brain.

The world is floating in knowledge. There are thousands of universities and colleges. This is the black and white world, the rote and the mundane.

But wisdom only filters through to a very few. They are the ones who see with their souls and with their spirits. Their vision is as the colors of the rainbow. Spiritual vision cannot be known or communicated to the vain.

Words carry knowledge but words cannot carry wisdom. Wisdom is perception and spiritual discernment. It is to know God and reality.

It is the evolution of consciousness. It is the fullness of life on earth that God intended. Blessed are those who have it!

It is beautifully described in Madame Ghis’ book “Madame Ghis: Escape In Prison.” In it she wrote:

“My soul showed me that the world in which I live is made up of lies and illusions. Reality can only be perceived with the soul’s eyes. With her (my soul) help, I learned that behind the tax system and all other systems, we find slaves without chains, human beings who are ignorant and unconscious of being the property of the State.

They trust their government enough to entrust it with their children, their health, their property and their entire lives. Citizens cannot guess that the State is a mere legislator and tax collector working for the bank of Canada, and a cartel of private bankers.

When I became aware of this situation, I decided to put an end to my life as the subject of a ‘higher’ authority. How could I do this?

By doing the exact opposite of what I had been doing before. How does a slave behave? Like a domestic dog. He submits to the will of his master who uses it as he wishes. In return, the master feeds it and brings it security. The more docile is the dog, the better he gets treated.”

Madame Ghis is a prison name given by inmates to Dr. Marie Eva Sophie Ghislain Lanctot, a medical doctor who spent a few months in prison for refusing to conform to the income tax system in Canada. She has written several revealing books, “The Medical Mafia,” “The Trial of the Medical Mafia,” “What the Hell am I Doing Here Anyway,” and “Madame Ghis: Escape in Prison.” They can be bought at  www.personocratia.com.

How do we become aware of the illusory world in which we live? How do we come to understand that law, finance, politics and religion are all interconnected?

Everything turns on the individual imperative to inquire. Do you know that most people do not inquire? They ask no questions. They seek no information.

We who inquire are few. We speak of the battle for our minds. We seek freedom from lies and deception which saturates our lives. Self change and release from deception is not easy, nor is it comfortable.

It is very difficult for the ego to let go of old habits of thought and lifelong, cherished attachments. The inquiring person reaches reality according to his own level of consciousness.

What then does the fascist state not tell us? What does the state not want us to know?

They do not want us to know that we do not think our own thoughts, but those of the system. They do not want us to know that we do not have human freedom, that democracy is a myth.

They do not want us to know that we have imaginary money that transfers wealth and savings to the state.

They do not want us to know that public schools and universities are government schools. They indoctrinate us with the system so that we cannot evaluate reality.

They do not want us to know that the medical system is a front for pharmaceuticals and a marketing vehicle for their drugs.

They promote a sickness system to sell drugs. The American people are fast discovering that sea salt and water are more medicinal than all the drugs.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • David Forde

    How true that is and booy they hate it when you have them totaly woerked out. Fraud on the higest level.

    • Mike Nelson

      I agree…most people are just content to be sheep, and that all started with the church thousands of years ago.

      It’s all about the control of the people, and what better way to do it than through fear, and to prey on our insecurities.

      Some of the best advice I ever got, I got from my old Calculus teacher: Question everything…and, if someone gives you an answer, make them *prove it*. We all need to be accountable.

      • American Citizen

        While growing up, in my early years, I was brought up with going to church. After I reached the use of reason, I began to question some of what I was hearing and being taught. As I grew older, I began to resolve the questions and now love my church. You do not own your faith unless you question and have them answered. But you have to open to accept the answers when they come. Even then, you may still have questions, but life has a way of answering them.

      • Mrs. Kim Mack

        Bull Mike Nelson, Open your eyes to settle what is really bothering you with your past…for Wisdom question the person to seek, find and settle those wounds…others wise you are stuck to the past. Look like you just missed personal truths and wisdom which just went flying past. Kim Mack

    • Jana

      Call your Senator today on whether you want the Senate to vote on whether or not to have a discussion on this Health Care Bill. They are voting on this tomorrow, Sat.the 21st. If they vote yes, it is almost a positive that it will go through.

  • Danny Russell

    I have been struggleing with my thoughts for months or maybe years trying to decide if I was crazy or if I knew something that noone else knew. Could I see clearly and everyone else had scales over their eyes or am I the blind/crazy one? I was getting worried about my own brain! This article opened my eyes even more to realize that I’m not crazy after all. I see more clearly than I thought I did. Dear Lord help us!

    • Ray

      To Danny,

      I have felt the same way for years. Maybe it just the wisdom we gained over the years.

  • http://www.politicalchristian.org Larry Miller

    We are currently fighting for control over our health care but we seem to have given up control over what our children are taught and taught to think already.

    • BlueMole

      You have no control over you health care,

      Corporate Insurance has total control over your health care, talk about “faceless bureaurocrats”

      They are the “death panels” Have been for ages

      Tea baggers are delusional. loved when Bush the Dumber cranked the deficit sky high to fund his idiotic wars and cut taxes to the ultra rich.

      • DaveH

        We don’t? You could have fooled me. I haven’t had health insurance my entire life (60 now). And I rarely go to the Doctor.
        We certainly will lose that control if the Government Unconstitutionally passes the Health Care Bill.
        Medical costs have skyrocketed over the decades because of Big Government, not in spite of it.
        And you want more? Talk about Delusional.
        http://mises.org/daily/3737

        • Claire

          Dave: I cannot believe you have not had health insurance your entire life! And that you rarely go to the doctor. Take care of yourself–a serious medical issue can wipe you out financially. The costs of medical care are astronomical, which you already know.

      • Joe H.

        Hey blind one,
        Do you honestly think the government will take better care of you? Look at desert storm. All of those guys that came back sick. The government and that includes O-mans’ group haven’t recognized any problem yet, let alone state it was caused by desert storm!!! It’s Viet Nam and Agent Orange all over again!!!

      • El Chichon’

        Bluehole,
        Hey, don’t be hating on “W”. What would you have done if you were president during 9/11? Your so smart, lets hear it. What would you have done? You had better thank God that “W” was our president at that time and not some sissy liberal. “W” is tough as nails. It is not an idiotic war as you would like to have other people think. Don’t forget, we were attacked numerous times in the past and then came 9/11 killing over 3000 Americans. What is America suppose to do, cower in the corner in the fetal position sucking her thumb like Al Gore? You should not be allowed to be in this country that brave men and women have unselfishly paid for with their blood and their lives. We are not tea baggers like you sodomites are. You need to spit out your buddys teabag, I think its causing oxygen starvation to your brain. You should withdraw your cranium from your anal orifice so you can see where you and this country are going.

  • David

    Very good. Let’s get back to the basics: our fed gov needs to protect us from invasion, leave the rest to the individual states. Welfare goes away…if you do not produce or add value then you get nothing in return. Leave God and our religion alone. Leave capitalism alone. Punish those immediately who premeditate crimes. Leave our second ammendment alone. ALL will be fine!

    • edith

      can we? one thing power mongers such as those now as president and in the administration hate one thing primarily: relinquishment of their power. This would happen if the people were allowed to be what this article says they are not.

      • David

        Even though 80% of the people out there do not get it; I think they will turn and follow the tide as it begins to shift. What is going on right now is nuts.

        Keep up the good work Tea Party goers and 9/12ers.

    • c lee

      Well said David.

  • j. koenders

    The irony is that we finance the propaganda that is brought into our homes via television. I’m cancelling cable–I’m sick of the regular brainwashing to which we and our children are subject. Enough already!

    • American Citizen

      So you’d rather they be brainwashed by the mainstream media. I find the reporters/commentators on Fox use reason in their reporting of what is going on with politics. They do not operate on feelings. Yes, they have opinions, but they base them on their values.

      • Joe H.

        American,
        Look back to Katie Kouric and her interview with Bush Jr when he won the second time. Katie kept calling him Mr. bush instead of president Bush. Her opinion and feelings bled into her reporting of the news. What ever happened to the news being unbiased? I’ll admit that Fox is guilty of it too, but the lamestream media is far worse!!!

        • Jana

          Fox has news and as with Hannity, O’Reilly, Greta, and Beck these are opinion shows with news as they see it. O’Reilly and Greta Van Sustern are not Republicans and often do not agree with the Rep. Party. Beck is a Libertarian. Hannity is the only one who is a Republican.

          People often get this mixed up as the news of the day, but they are two separate things. I watch them a couple of times a week.

          Plus have watched MSNBC and have watched some of their opinion shows which were normal liberal drivel. It made me sick so I turned it on CNN. I like to channel hop. I like CNN and FOX then I watch the local news and National sometimes ABC or CBS or NBC on the local chaneels.

          Those that put down FOX News are either die hard Libs, or haven’t really watched it. Hannity always has a panel of even Dems on his show.

          Oh yes, during the day Shepherd Smith who is a Democrat who supports Obama is on FOX during the day. So those putting FOX down haven’t watched it that much to know what they are talking about.

          • JeffH

            Jana, one small correction, Hannity is not a Republican. He has stated over and over that he is a Conservative.

          • Jana

            Jeff, you are right. I remember hearing him say that now that you mention it.

  • George

    The reality of the illusion is almost as amazing as the movie “The Matrix”

    • Freeme

      Yes, and all of us need to take the RED PILL!

  • hunter

    If the media had been doing their job right, we would have seen the road signs and our new president wouldn’ have been sworn in on a koran. The overly pc media are defiently the major contributor when hell has to be paid as to where to lay the blame for the election of such a incompetent moron. I have my birth certificate, do you have yours?

  • LLJINTL

    The mass apathy that is caused by this constant brainwashing is why people are being marched down the prescription drug and treatment path to their deaths, not even knowing they have the right to seek the truth and save themselves and their families. In America it is legal to put anything in a bottle or can and sell it for profit, no matter how detrimental to human health…winess the plethora of acidic, oxidizing beverages that are slowly killing people. They serve gatorade to senior for God’s sake, when they are already suffering from acidosis and dehydration. People are dying all around us from over-acidification and dehydration…will doctors tell people to drink ionized alkaline water? No, they write prescriptions and have us take pills to mask symptoms and further screw up our health. Granted, Medicine has its place, but people, wake up and take responsibility for your life! If you can find a doc who speaks of pH, follow them. Do the research, seek the truth. http://www.ionways.com/LLJINTL

    • Freeme

      AHHH yes…and if this isnt enough, we now have flouride in drinking water, antibiotics in meat, radiating veggies before sale in supermarkets and aerial spraying in every country on the planet filling our air with chemicals,bacteria and viruses.

      • eyeswideopen

        Freeme, sounds like corporations running America. All those things you identified were imposed upon us for profit. Think about it.

        • DaveH

          Corporations can only force their products on the citizens with the aid of Big Government. And it appears from your other comments that you champion Big Government.

          • DaveH

            The Health Care Bill is a good example of forcing us to buy a product. And the Cap and Trade Bill is another example.
            Government is force not reason.

          • denniso

            I actually agree w/ DaveH…we should not be forced to buy a product from a corporation as a condition of citizenship. We only have to buy car ins if we own a car..no one forces us to do that. I’m appalled at mandates connected to corporate health ins.

        • JeffH

          I have never been forced to buy anything by a corporation.

          • Curtis S

            If you live in a small town you might have been forced to shop at WalMart.

          • JeffH

            Nope!

  • s c

    To answer the basic question (who doesn’t want law and order?), it’s Washington in general, lobbyists, the white house, congress, groupies of elected career criminals, foreign agents, some corporate types, some ultra rich turncoats, flunkies who want an easy path to ‘security’ and millions of dumbed-down people who should know better but have sacrificed their integrity and common sense to suck up to quasi-human slime.
    The fact that pc is closer to a religion makes matters worse. Isn’t it interesting how we’re supposed to live with the idea of encroaching government into our religious lives, yet they don’t hesitate to replace our religion(s) with pc?
    In closing, a public school is a GOVERNMENT SCHOOL.
    It’s great place to lose your individuality, and learn how to let government grow and grow. No big government in history has ever thought twice about enslaving its citizens. Things HAVE NOT changed, people.

  • sylvia

    Excellent Article! Now, that we know all these things, what do we do? What would Jesus do? Does the prophecies in the Holy Bible tell us these things were to come to pass? Matthew 24, Danial and Revelation, maybe?

    • American Citizen

      Jesus didn’t say much about politics and politicians except to call them hypocrites. He was more interested in teaching about how we should live, the Father, and our salvation. As were the prophets. It was a matter of right and wrong with them.

      • eyeswideopen

        and not passing judgement on others. That is reserved for God, not us.

        • DaveH

          Then you must think you are God.

        • American Citizen

          St. Paul said if we see our brother doing wrong, we are to call him on it.

  • Raggs

    Very good article… Too bad most people will never wake up and smell the BS our government is shoving in thier faces

  • Robin from Indiana

    If the mainstream media would just report the facts that would be nice. Our government needs to back off. We need to contact our representatives and tell them to sponsor the Fair Tax bill. Apathy will be the death of America…

    • Ray

      The mainstream media is part of the problem. They only tell us what they want us to know.

      • eyeswideopen

        Corporations running America.

        • DaveH

          Big Government running America.

          • David

            Corporations helping to run big gov because big gov too stupid to figure it out fot itself….there’s nothing like depending on the unions to write legislation such as health care, cap/trade.

          • Joe H.

            DaveH,
            And doing away with a right that has been the right of every American since this country began. SEIU is trying to do away with the secret ballot in all factories. The only reason for this is then they can bully people into supporting the union!!! Have you ever had to SHOW your ballot to anyone at the voting booth?

          • DaveH

            Joe,
            It is almost beyond comprehension to me that people would support that obvious strong arm tactic of ‘card check’. Sometimes I feel like I’m in the Twilight Zone.

        • JeffH

          Corporations are the latest “song of the parrot”!

  • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

    It’s not about law and order; it’s about destroying our system of government, which was started long ago! Isn’t it interesting that organized crime has always been affiliated with the Democratic Party, and Chicago, our so called second city, has always been our number one city in America in organized crime? We have not seen anything yet and it will not be pretty! PS: The real sad part is that there are no philosophical differences between an idiot and a genius and never has been!

  • Russell EnDean

    This administration ignores our every plea. I am getting tired of babysitting them, with no results. Another three years of this will surely bankrupt us along the way so we do not have the luxury of three more years to wait. the time to change the Administration is NOW.

    • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

      Question? Freeme, who continues truth when the writers of such true revealing articles are no more?

  • Freeme

    THANK YOU SO MUCH!…for this stellar article! It is nice to know there are more AWAKE and AWARE other than the small group I know.
    What is mightier, the pen or the sword? …and right now we need many more truth revealing articles such as this.

  • Raggs

    The problem here is most Americans are fast asleep.
    The government intrusion cannot be stopped unless everyone is made aware, and the media is no help at all. In fact they are just puppets of obamas agenda.

  • http://ordy@fedtel./net Eric g

    very good artical to force us to think . With all the moderen equipment and knowledge we now have . If managed properly we should all be living in luxsurey on a ten hr work week , with time to prey constantly thanking God and to do what ever we want. The only thing preventing this is evil . corruption ,greed ,selfness , lies and more evil .

  • Donnelly

    Check out Nation Under Attack on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx79SPcKQbU

  • DaveH

    I have personally witnessed lying cops (several), lying lawyers, and lying politicians. These are the people that are going to protect us?

    Does anybody really believe it when they say “We’re from the Government and we’re here to help you”?

    • DaveH

      The best government is Small Government.

      • eyeswideopen

        The best government is free from corporate interests, and cannot be purchased by the corporate lobbyists.

        • DaveH

          Well then, Eyes, why are you constantly attacking those who want to roll back the size of the government that is enabling the corporate thieves?

        • Joe H.

          Eyes,
          Yup and you got the best government in right now that money can buy!!!!

  • http://N/A Mary

    We the sheeple are following along just like the elitists want us to! We all need to share knowledge of what is happening in our government with the people around us that we can influence. Our Congress and Senate are culpable in all of this mess and that is what has allowed the current AG to bring terrorists into NY for trial as if they are American citizens! This will destroy all of our intelligence flow to stop these creeps from attacking our country again and Obama is happy to invite them in and do it again! It is time to demand our Congress impeach this imposter and if they don’t we need to do it ourselves! The time has come for the American people to stand up and demand that the government rules only by the will of the people, by the people and for the people!! So Help us God!

    • eyeswideopen

      Mary, if we elevate the terrorists to the level of soldiers we can’t get assistance from foreign countries when trying to capture them. As that would be viewed as an act of war. If however they are just criminals, other countries will assist us.

      We cannot give Al Qaeda the same standing as a foreign country. A terrorist group is organized crime group, not a foreign government. A tribunal is meant to deal with enemy soldiers, terrorists are not soldiers. We should never honor the terrorist by giving them the status of a foreign soldier. They are civilians which need to be tried in civilian courts. A civil trial diminishes them, when they are tried as criminals, they are not going to become martyrs for the cause. Have faith that our justice system which has survived for over 200 years will triumph and get us the justice we should have had years ago.

      • Jackie

        Non U.S. citizens who are terrorists should not be given the rights of U.S. citizens.

        • Curtis S

          What happened to all men are created equal?

          • American Citizen

            We may all be created equal, but the terrorists have declared war on us. They are not common criminals.

          • eyeswideopen

            American, what do you want to call them? They are not soldiers. What title would make you feel better?

          • JeffH

            eyes, how about “terrorists”! I think AC made that pretty clear.

        • eyeswideopen

          Jackie, how do you plan on having a trial? You hate our Constitution so much that you are willing after all these years to trash it? Maybe you should find another country. The rest of us want our Constitution to be upheld and be a shinning example of our justice for all, mantra that we expouse to other nations. Why are you so afraid?

          • DaveH

            Eyes,
            You only want our Constitution to be upheld when it suits your purposes.

          • Jana

            eyes, The Constitution was written by us and for us. These men do not follow our Constitution and therefore do not deserve the rights of our Constitution.

          • Jana

            eyes, another point. You are always stating that we should not judge. Why don’t you follow your own rules? You told Jackie that she hated the Constitution. You put words in her mouth that she did not say nor even imply. You need to go look in the mirror and repeat I will not judge! ten times.

          • Joe H.

            Eyes,
            Just call them fertilizer!!!

        • Jana

          Jackie unfortunately these men have decided that we are not equal, we are beneath them. They call us infidels. They want us dead. They have declared war on us. We sent our military over to fight them and he got captured. This should be a military trial.

          The Constitution was written by us and for us. These men do not follow our Constitution and therefore do not deserve the rights of our Constitution.

          • American Citizen

            You’re right, Jana, they may not be ordinary soldiers bur they are WAR CRIMINALS and shoud go before a military tribunal. Obama and Holder say they will be convicted and put to death. I’m glad they have a crystal ball. Their lawyers will find a way to get them off. This current president is a numbskull.

          • JeffH

            I would like to let some of us gun totin’ extremists get in some target practice with these “terrorists” at GITMO. Keeps the eyes and senses sharp!

        • JeffH

          Here are some quotes from the 2008 book, “What in the World is going on” by Dr. David Jeremiah;
          I do want to repeat something that has been written by a former Iraqi Air Force General under Saddam Hussein,George Sada who was not a muslim. His book ws titled: Saddam’s Secrets: How an Iraqi General Defied and Survived Saddam Hussein. ” One of the nicest things aout tha American people is that you are generous and friendly people, because of this you are sometimes naive and overly trusting…Many brave young soldiers have died in Iraq for this reason.
          The ultimate goal of the Islamic revolution is “total and complete conquest of the West and of anyone who does not bow to them and their dangerous and out-of-date ideology of hate and revenge.”
          al-Aqsa, a Hamas-owned TV station, aired a childrens program that depicted a puppet boy sneaking into the WH and killing Pres. Bush with “the sword of Islam” and vows “the White House would be turned into a mosque.”
          An audience was being told at a radical Islamic rally in California that “One day you will see the flag of Islam over The White House.”

          Wake up people, we have a muslim in The White House now who is nothing short of radical. The only “law and order” this guy wants is his own!

          • Jana

            Jeff, Because of things such as our government deciding to try the terrorists in a civil court, because of the weak minded Democrats, they consider us weak and fearful. they also consider us easy targets, and will continue the path they are on now unless we wise up and deal with these people in a way that they will understand we aren’t going to put up with this nonsense any more.

          • Joe H.

            Jana,
            You are so right! Why else would so many socialist and communist governments praise him? Castro calls him his “little brother”. What’s that tell you?

  • http://att.myyahoo.com Mauro Arrieta

    The summation is, “The unexamined life is not worth living.” The quoted material from Madame Ghis is cogent, but the last paragraph includes the analogy of a slave and a dog, possibly a flaw. Dogs are not slaves, and more often, they are the masters whom we love as masters.

  • Richard Pawley

    Long ago a wise man said “Politics is God’s punishment to mankind for sin.” Today we could just as easily say “Political Correctness is God’s punishment to mankind for sin.” One often hears that “Knowledge is Power” but a thermonuclear weapon is power with no knowledge whatsoever. In truth we should be saying “Wisdom is Power” and as your excellent article points out we are sorely lacking in that. A few years back in the Epilogue of my autobiography I relate something I heard in the month in 2003 when the planet Mars was the closest to the planet Earth than it had been in 59,600 years. I have always found space fascinating (but with no desire to go there). Life on a moon of Jupiter and hundreds of planets discovered in other solar systems has all fascinated me. Well, at 2:30 in the morning on that day in September I found myself marveling at the crystal clear night. I was actually praying and thanking God for the beauty of all His creation when I suddenly started to praise Him for it all, and for life itself. To quote myself, “Somewhere in the Bible it says that God dwells in the praises of His people. As I was praising Him, just as suddenly the Spirit of the Lord spoke to my spirit or inner mind and said, “There is much life in the Universe but it is very far away. Because of the age old problem of good versus evil most civilizations that have reached the atomic age have destroyed themselves. The nearest sentient life is over 500 light years. The nearest life technologically equivalent to earth is over 1,000 light years. Mankind will never reach them….” There was a bit more and I was edified to hear what I heard, considering I’m not even an astronaut. The point is that I’m not concerned now with what we might do in a thousand years, I’d just like to see our planet survive the next hundred years and I’d like to see our country survive as well. Unfortunately the way we are going this seems unlikely. If the USA does not turn from it’s evil ways (along with the rest of the world) then we seem to be rushing pell mell toward the one world government and banking system that is talked about in both the Old and New Testament. Freedom as we have known it will cease to exist and we become servants to the masters as mentioned above, more than we already are. This appears to be our self chosen destiny, not you or I or Mr. Livingston, but the uniformed mis-educated masses. However, the longer we can forestall that eventual collapse of the United States and the world into a one world dictatorship the longer our ever diminishing freedom can exist and that is why we should continue, as the Bible says, to fight the good fight. The nation has long forgotten what President Kennedy said, “Ask not what your nation can do for you, ask what you can do for your nation”. He would certainly consider our current president to be a communist. Our nation needs a lot of help, and a lot or prayer, and we can begin by voting out of office next year all who vote to destroy the dollar and the USA by the insane taxing and spending that our current Congress is hell bent on continuing. From the so-called Health Care Reform Bill to the Energy Tax (formally called Cap and Trade) all of which will result in tremendous inflation. Those over 55 had better learn all they can about staying well so they can live without healthcare (if it passes some 45,000 doctors have said they will go into another field) and I have heard doctors encouraging their bright children NOT to go into medicine as we chart a new and unknown course of what might work, although it has never worked in any other country in the world. Even the rich are being advised to take their money and factories and get out of the US before Congress causes it to collapse (I am privy to a little of what some of them are being told). Take away all incentive and we will be just like every other country. Oh, I forgot, that’s part of the agenda. Well, we need all those over 55 to vote to offset the 12 million illegals that the Democrats plan to Americanize next year so they can vote for the unions and the Democrats and share in this amazing “free” healthcare that even our bankers (The Chinese) say we can’t afford unless we ration. We are in a war for survival and most are still saying that the first president who considers some other world leaders superior to himself has determined that we will all bow down. He will not succeed but he and his cohorts (Pelosi and Reid and many others) could easily destroy the country if Americans do not wake up, pray, and vote. Long ago the cartoon character Pogo said, “We have met the enemy and he is us!” Like the end of daylight savings time it is time to change the clock back to the days of personal responsibility and personal accountability, ours, and most especially Congresses, or it will not be just the death of the dollar but the death of freedom and the death of the United States of America. Pray and Vote! (Liberals who are determined to spend us to death are welcome to copy this and save it for the next decade and see how accurate this proves to be if we continue on our present course of mindless change for changes sake). If we do not wake up as a nation then these are truly “The Last Days of the Late Great United States”.

  • DaveH

    Especially for Women. Is this just coincidental, or are they already preparing to cut back services?
    http://blogs.healthfreedomalliance.org/blog/2009/11/17/new-government-breast-cancer-advice-raises-concerns/

    • s c

      Thanks for the link, DaveH. Call me a pessimist, but the idea of cutting back on women’s health care shouldn’t come as a surprise. Part of the evil ‘progressive solution’ preferred by Washington scum is population control at ANY price.
      Senior citizens are part of that equation, too. Unborn babies have been an easy target for a long time.
      Maybe it’s time for people to realize that politicians need to be included in any population control scheme. It would be a great ‘enlightener’
      and a source of ‘motivation’ for those who see freedom as a liability.

      • American Citizen

        Wouldn’t it be easier and cheaper for the men to have a vasectomy?

  • http://shirleypalalsathena@gmail.com shirley

    IMPORTANTLY, also, why can almost NO one see or understand the disturbing threat and lies of ISLAMIC terrorism????!! Kudos and great appreciation GO TO President Sarkozy of France who(a few days ago) ACTUALLY STOOD UP TO THESE THREATS in their parliament/congress and said those who do NOT conform to French law and rules and customs will be deported! Look it up. I can’t quote him correctly. He said France is no place for “burkas” in public!

    It will never be heard from our President. Yes, WE have to stand up and be counted and heard and change all that we possibly can.

    Stay informed America.

    • DaveH

      Shirley,
      I was at our local zoo recently with my gal. I noticed a group of about 6 muslims coming our way. I could hear the head guy barking orders to the others. The adult women were covered from head to tail with heavy black garments and it was a hot day. It sickened me so to see women treated so disrespectfully that I asked my girlfriend if she wouldn’t mind going back around the other way. I knew I couldn’t do anything but glare if I had to walk by them, and I prefer to be friendly to people.

      • eyeswideopen

        DaveH, at Publix today, and had to be witness to man abusing his wife in the soda aisle. Police were called. I had to give statement. Took over an hour. Sad to say he was white, had on NRA hat, chain on side of jeans, tatooed up pretty good. Observed him degrading wife going down the aisle, then he just turned and punched her in the face. Broke her nose. Gee, he wasn’t an Arab, just a domestic redneck out of control, which none of us could avoid. You heard loud voices, I saw blood. Abuse of women is everywhere, and it is commited by all types of men.

        • DaveH

          The difference is their abuse is condoned and encouraged by their religion. Is it condoned by you also? Or do you just like to argue with me?

        • Jana

          eyes, that must have been quite disheartening to see. Thankfully we don’t have to witness that here on a regular basis, and the police more than likely arrested the man.

          The Muslim women have no recourse. Their laws will not tolerate them standing up to the man or complaining to the police either. They will be beheaded and it is called an “honor killing”.

          According to most Imams very few women have a chance to even make it to heaven as they are dirty and evil. They are to be controlled by the man. This is why they must be kept covered all over even in the heat.

          I agree, all types of abuse go on, but at least it is against the law and something can be done about it here.

          • American Citizen

            The fact they consider their women dirty is almost laughable as if it were not for women, they wouldn’t even be here. I think they think that way because of the women’s monthlies. Even the Jewish women in the old testament at those timse sat on a pillow They need a good biology lesson.

        • Joe H.

          Eyes,
          What do you think would happen if my daughter went into a police station and told them I threatened to kill her and she didn’t recant?
          she would be taken from me and placed in foster care! No questions asked and I would have to prove I didn’t. Well that’s what happened with that girl from Ohio that ran away to Florida. Her father said she was getting too “Americanized” and then when she turned from Islam and became a christian her dad lost it. What did the courts do? Sent her back to him. If anything at all happens to that girl the father should never see the light of day again and the judges should share his cell!!!

          • American Citizen

            Agreed. That judge did not take their culture into account. Anybody can look you in the face and lie. Just look at our current president.

          • Jana

            Joe, exactly.!!

            American Citizen I had a girl friend who with her husband moved to Saudi. They lived in an American type village that was very protected. Her husband worked for a company that employed several Saudi’s.

            5 ladies wanted to go to town and the husbands knew this one man that worked with them, quite well. He wore an American business suit and seemed very Americanized and so they trusted him and asked him to escort the 5 ladies into town for the morning.

            They all got back about noon, but he did not show up for work till after 3 that afternoon.

            The men asked him where he had been and he said very indignantly that he had to go home and bathe, after all he had sat next to a woman!.

            My friend said, “I was the one that sat next to him as there were 6 of us in the car and I had bathed that morning and was not dirty!”

            My husband has been there and he said that even during the coldest of coldest times he would see the men and boys in the front of the pick up and the women riding in the back in the cold all huddled together trying to stay warm.

          • Joe H.

            Eyes,
            I see you ignore this post above from me. Now which is worse?

        • Claire

          Eyes–so true–it makes no difference what nationality–it happens everywhere. One of my friend’s daughter was beaten up by her husband. Put her in the hospital but she stayed with the jerk. Go figure.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Marty

    My 89 ¥ear old Mom, who only finished the 10th grade in school, has so often asked “Why, if an old,
    uneducated woman like me can see these things…Why can’t our leaders see”? It’s difficult to answer
    her question without seeming “trite”…Because they don’t care?…Because they are willing to just go along
    as long as they are okay?…Because they are looking out for themselves and don’t care about us???? So
    why do we keep voting the same old scoundrels and thieves back into office year after year? Because
    we do not care?…Because we are so naive as to believe their lies at election time?….Because we are too
    lazy to do even the most basic research into their past voting practices so that we may KNOW how they
    really feel? As much as I hate to face up to it, we are where we are now due to apathy, laziness and
    selfishness. The powers that be do not launch a full frontal attack (such as we are beginning to realise
    now) without first conditioning us and then “testing the water” to see just how much we will take before
    we become concerned enough to react. And we have been tested for years with our religious freedoms
    which have always been the backbone of this nation, as they have chipped away, a little at first, and becoming more and more bold as the years have passed. Since Margaret “what’s-her-name” popped
    up out of nowhere as a “spawn” of the ACLU, we have watched our religious freedoms dwindle before
    our very eyes, and along with them, we have become weaker as a people and a nation. What are we
    willing to pay for our freedom?…..Not much, apparently, if it inconveniences us and costs us anything.
    There are some who are giving their all, their time, their money, and even jeopardizing their futures in
    order to fight for America, our precious Constitution, and our very freedom. They warn, they plead, they
    do all in their power to cause us to WAKE UP but unless WE, THE PEOPLE unite and DO something, all the talk and all the blogs in the world won’t change a thing! As an example, I showed a very nice,
    intelligent, Christian woman the article regarding the “pink slip” campaign and I suggested she take the
    info and tell her fellow church members. She read the article and when she got to the part that it cost
    $29.95 to send personalized pink slips to all 535 leaders, she was shocked. She said, and I quote “Oh,
    they would NEVER spend $29.95….they MIGHT write a letter. but they won’t do that!” She said she was
    not going to worry about it, but count on God to take care of her. I told her that if our Founding Fathers
    had sat in England and waited for God to bring them their freedoms, there would never have been an
    America. I told her I believe that God will help us when He see we are willing to give of ourselves to
    achieve what is right. I was very depressed after talking with her because I feel I see what is wrong and
    why I’m not sure it will change from the way we are heading. I pray to God I am wrong!

    • American Citizen

      Tell her it has nothing to do with caring or not caring, they want total control.

      We are God’s eyes, ears, arms, legs and mouth. We can’t just sit and do nothing or we will be enslaved.

      • http://www.easyinvest.co.za pete

        Afraid we have left it too late – we are already slaves and our masters are laughing at us for being so easy to control!
        Amen!

        • Jana

          Pete, you may be right, it may be too late, but we are going to go kicking and screaming. Men might be punching and yelling.

    • Joe H.

      Marty,
      Your mother can see this because she has common sense, something sadly lacking in the liberal movement!!! God Bless her!!!

  • james

    The truth shall set you free! I have said it a million times over to everyone that will listen and I quote once again, “the knowledge of the truth in all matters both big and small is the most powerful and potent weapon on the face of the earth to this very day!” “Always dig for the truth, ask questions, read, research and never ever accept anything at face value!” When at any time your are well armed with the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth you will not be easily decieved by anyone or anything and most especially government!”

    I am convinced that the only way that we the people will ever regain control of our beloved America is to re-educate our people and thereby re-awaken the American people’s spirit. This will be hardest task of all simply because we have allowed the public fool system to indoctrinate our children and spew out their vile propaganda to the American people for far to many years!

  • DaveH

    These idiots are on a pell mell rush to take over every aspect of our lives:
    http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=4014

    Remember this well people – it is mostly the Democrats that want to be our nannies. However, I acknowledge that many Republicans are guilty too.

  • ONTIME

    The country is faced with a lack of moral standard, we have allowed the weak willed and those with low moral character and poor principal to take control of our institutions and put ideas into the heads of our youth that have no allegiance, loyalty or respect for that which was given to us to guard with our very lives, our country, it’s future and it’s security.

    Yes, I know we have many brave men and women in arms at present but they are in constant jeopardy from that which I previously pointed out and I believe Ft. Hood is a perfect example of of my point. We are about to engage in bad history with the upcoming trials of terrorist we had imprisoned at GITMO and we are now going to have a long, expensive, un-necessary show for the world sanctioned by a manboy who will not even allow his birth certificate or his school records to be seen by the public and fulfill the law which ask you to be natural born of this country before you run for POTUS.

    We are being lead by men of dishonor in far to many areas and the PC is corrupting our legacy, I am hoping we will wake up and respond to all this fraud and collusion but I am in serious doubt…the man in the tri cornered hat with the musket is growing restless.

    • bbstacker

      ONTime said it, Marty asked about it…

      We all need to look inside and ask the serious question, “Are we willing to die for our country?” Without The Constitution of the United States all this is just a dream. In all of mankind’s history on this planet, no nation like ours has ever existed. Those who despise this precious Freedom we have been blessed with are now in control through the abhorrent ignorance of those too lazy to make the effort to read and reason with common sense. What does your gut tell you?

      • Joe H.

        bbstacker,
        I don’t even have to think about it, HELL YES I would die for my country!! I worked on it for 18 months in Viet Nam in 70/71 and would do so again in a heart beat!

      • Jana

        bb, I am not a coward either. I would die for my country too. I already know my husband is a warrior and would do the same.

        He has been in Iraq and Afghanistan,and many other countries, including communist countries. My husband said what we have here in this country is worth fighting for.
        And, no eyes, we are not talking about a revolution here, so don’t go putting words in our mouths too!

        • eyeswideopen

          Jana, Joe just cursed, aren’t you going to dress him down the way you did to me? No? Oh, that’s right he is one of you, so when he curses that doesn’t mean he is bad. Hyprocrisy at it’s finest level.

          • Joe H.

            Eyes
            that was because I didn’t direct it against any one person or group of people!!!! think about it!!

      • JeffH

        Easy answer, YES! I would much rather die fighting for OUR freedom here in America than die waiting for medical care while my name is on a six month “rationing” list or there just aren’t enough doctors at the emergency room to handle my emergency. I would rather die fighting for freedom than die at the hands of some beureacrat deciding my fate through the Pelosi/Reid/Obama Democrat Health Care shill.

  • HemiBill
    • DaveH

      We wouldn’t need to be so selective about our Representatives if we made them get us back to the Limited Government embodied in the Constitution. It is only the expectation of protection from every possible negative event that has created such a necessity of super-politicians. And, of course, there is no such thing, so what we really get is a bunch of corruption.

  • DaveH

    Whenever they say “we’re here to help you”, be very suspicious. I am reminded of the 2002 Campaign Finance Reform Act sponsored by John McCain. It wasn’t created to protect us. It was created to protect them (the incumbents). They know it takes lots of money to unseat them, so anything they can do to cut down the money flow keeps them in office.
    In an Ironic Twist, McCain’s own law came back to haunt him in the Presidential Campaign, as Obama outmaneuvered him on the Federal Funds issue.

    • eyeswideopen

      If corporations were not allowed to contribute to the politicians, there would be no politicians passing laws to benefit those companies. Corporations are running America. Follow the money. If a politican is voting in favor of a Corporation instead of a citizen, chances are he has taken money from that corporate lobbying group. How do you expect them to make non-biased decisions, when they are taking money from corporate lobbyists? Best damn government money can buy.

      • DaveH

        Eyes,
        They could cure that by the simple rule of full disclosure, which, by the way, Obama never fully did.

        So are you telling me Eyes that you have no mind of your own? If a corporation puts out wrong-headed propaganda you are forced to vote their way? In a free-speech system, which you enjoy on this board, you cannot get your point of view out to the public?

        • eyeswideopen

          DaveH, I do have a mind of my own, our politicians however are indebted to those who give them money. You think disclosure would stop the corruption? Tell me why you think John McCain will not support the Wireless industry when they have given him $868,000.00? You think he won’t vote in their behalf? Just because we know how much money they have received doesn’t mean they will have the citizens best interests at heart when they vote. Right now we have info on how many have taken millions from the Healthcare Industry, and they are voting for the healthcare Insurance companies. You have to stop the flow of money, not just record the flow of money. They obviously could give two sh ts about what we think or know. Come on, Dave, Corporation money is running this country and the corruption is everywhere. Follow the money to find the purchased vote.

      • Joe H.

        Such as O-man’s admin? 300 million from union members? SEIU? Sound familiar?

        • eyeswideopen

          Yep and it is wrong. I never said he wasn’t guilty of the same actions of all of the politicians, I said I don’t need to bash him as there are enough of you who hate him doing a fine job of slandering, degrading, and blaming him when you are constapitated or run over a nail. I think he should have let the economy fail and then let you all beg him to fix it. He should have also cancelled Medicare, just given you all tax credits for all the money you have put in. He should have stopped all subsidies to all corporations. Stopped awarding government contracts to any company who has committed fraud against the government, which is you and me. Make each state responsible for cleaning up the pollution in their state. Make each state pay for education without Federal funds. If you live in a poor state tuff, if you aren’t rich, tuff, your children will just have a lower standard of living. Not my responsibility to make sure your children get a good education. Churches should not be tax exempt. They use the Federal dollars to futher their own agenda’s, I don’t believe in some of their ideologies, why should my tax dollars go to supporting those agenda’s? In addition the Churches are actually lobbying politicians, which is against the law, if they are receiving Fed monies.

          • Joe H.

            Eyes,
            you say” he should give YOU all tax credits for the money you have paid into it. you are a Viet Vet and YOU didn’t pay into it? How old are you????

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Marty

    I agree with James wholeheartedly…but do we have the time? With our nation’s freedom hanging by
    a thread, do we have the time to turn things around? I think the answer is “No, we do not have that
    luxury any longer”! So what do we do? Nowhere have I found anyone who can. or will. answer that
    question. Have we waited too long? Is it already too late? What can we do? And how can you educate
    a people who refuse to get concerned and only look to the traditional media for their information as to what is going on in our nation and in the world? Most people are so brainwashed that they do not even know what our Constitution says…they simply “parrot” what is drummed into us every day by those who wish for us to believe what they tell us. If lies are told often enough and people do not check things out for themselves, the lies become our truths and then we are doomed.

    • Jana

      Marty, I certainly don’t have all of the answers, but this is one reason why this type of forum is so important. We get to thinking we are the only ones feeling the way we do. Then, we get on here and find that we aren’t alone.

      I even welcome the leftist that come on this site. They irritate us, but we also get to see up close and personal what we are dealing with. They have one theme for the most part and if they do come up with something of wisdom well, we can learn by that and move forward.

  • mpugh

    Glad to see more and more people are starting to open their eyes. Unfortunately, it might be too late. But it’s nice to see more people taking the blue pill. I’m compelled to go watch the first “Matrix” again.

  • c lee

    I think one of the biggest problems we have was on the news last night. I watched Sen. Byrd crying on national telivision like a 2 year old while celibrating his tenure in the senate. And he said his only regret was that his wife didnt live long enough to see this. Now I dont know about most of you out there but that spekticle was scarry to me. That is an example of what is running our country. We are in DEEEEEP DoDo.

    • bbstacker

      C Lee you state it perfectly. There should be shame associated with a man who has no more ambition than to remain in a position of clinging to the apron strings of a “secure and comfortably warm” government job for life. I personally think it is despicable that a man would want to spend his time on this earth beyond a decade or, say, 2 terms, for the fear of losing his soul. We can all see the souless sitting there for decades as they become the masters on Uncle Sam’s Plantation, spoonfeeding a growing slave-to-the-state class of “citizen”, and I use the term loosely.

      • American Citizen

        I am sick of politicians hanging on to their jobs for years when it was meant to be a citizen legislature. Even George Washington refused to serve more than two terms. It’s time to put an age limit on them, retirement age as the rest of us have. On another blog, there was offered a 28th amendment where those in government have to live like the rest of us on the laws they pass and the perks they get, and we, the people, get what they have. I think things would change in a hurry in D.C.

        • eyeswideopen

          American, there isn’t one Republican on this site, who would vote out someone from his party. It will not change as people are more concerned with power, then they are with quality.

          • David

            Eyes that is total BS. You are still stuck in your liberal conversion and it will not allow you to think intelligently. Don’t go to the dark side baby….I know you still have a little bit of that conservative punch left….

          • DaveH

            David,
            I doubt she ever had any conservative inclinations. I think she is an imposter just trying to disrupt our conversations.

          • libertytrain

            Dave H – you are certainly right about the impostor part -so many tales told on these threads that contradict one another – no credibility left with the multiple eyes folks.

          • American Citizen

            You are so wrong, eyes. I’ll never vote for Richard Lugar again. I’m not a Republican, but I have voted for him in the past. He’s another one that’s been up there too long. The only Republican I can say I will certainly vote for if he runs again is Mike Pence. He’s been fighting for us here in our state as well as the rest of the country.

          • Jana

            Eyes, what about you? Will you vote out your Democrats?

          • Joe H.

            Eyes,
            I voted against my mayor Nov 3 this year as I thought he was doing a lousy job and he was a republican. I voted against Ford because he pardoned Nixon. I have stated numerous times on these columns that I am a staunch supporter of “flip the house” and I will vote against my republican congressman if he turns belly up and votes for the health care bill. I have told him that both in E-mails and in person!

          • eyeswideopen

            Jana, I voted for one Democrat, I will wait and see how that turns out, I don’t believe in miracles happening in a year. But I might vote dems in for my governor this time. Crist and his cohorts about bankrupted this state. Rubio is a pseudo Conservative, playing the game, he thinks we don’t know how to check his record on voting and his statements. He is just as bad as Crist. Was hoping for an Independent to run, but no such luck. It will take Florida a good ten years to recover from our Republican fiscal errors.

    • Joe H.

      c lee,
      Only have one thing to say to that…..FLIP THE HOUSE, Don’t leave one incumbent with a job. Vote them out!! Use only the legal operations of ACORN…go door to door and inform people!! Show them proof of what you say. Give voters rides to the polls, Register republicans. Most important….support true conservatives for the republican party and bring it back to where it belongs!!!!

      • DaveH

        Joe,
        I think the only real way to send them a message is to register and vote for the only freedom-loving party that still hasn’t been infiltrated by Liberals. The Libertarian Party:
        http://libertarianparty.org/platform

        • Jana

          Dave, you are truly precious if you don’t mind me saying that. You are true blue to the Libertarian Party, as well as a good spokesman for them. Maybe you need to run for office on your party’s ticket and get some good representation in there for your party. Maybe even President, as I have not been impressed with the Lib. Party Presidential nominee. I heard him speak and he sounded very weak. I don’t think you would be weak.

  • Roger Housend

    We are all on the same page. So lets go totaly ROGUE! Go to tea parties, heck, host a tea party. Write you congressman, representive, mayor, concilman. Run for office for GOD’s sake and the sake of our country. Get off your buttocks NOW! Go independent. The Dems & repubs are not worth saving. They are all corrupt. Vote them all out. It can be done. $Expose their greedy corrupt self serving ways. Restore our Constitution before it’s gone or whats left of it. Clean house!
    GO ROGUE! I’am finally getting off my rear. My revolution starts now, this day, this moment, we don’t have to fear the government. We can fire them. They forgot that for sure. Take back our country before its fubar.

  • CathieO

    What a nice breath of fresh air to hear from so many people who get it! How I yearn for more enlightened people in my personal life. It’s so tiring, saddening, maddening & frightening, when I hear the ignorant, brainlessly blather out the programmed propaganda, & really believe that it comes from their own minds! Those same people will sneer & believe that conspiracies are mind control! Why would anyone want to adopt a fearful view of reality for fun? We see the painful truth in a desparate attempt to prepare, or ward off worse! And yet the blind believe, we are just entertaining ouselves with fear, because we’re weird.
    It’s been obvious to me, for some time, these connections between the groups of power elites, to super empower themselves, at our expense! It’s so nice to have truth so beautifully validated by articles like this. I fight with friends & family to get their blinders off, but they fight me just as hard to keep them securely on. It’s also, rather amazingly, been clearly predicted (these turbulent times), in the Bible as well; for those of us with eyes to see & ears to hear. Perhaps one of the reasons it is hated above all, by the religion homogenizers & Global Governance agenda pushers. Thank God for the Internet freedom we still have now, & thank God for Bob Livingston & his wonderful newsletter!

    • American Citizen

      It’s because they get their news from the Mainstream Media plus CNN, MSNBC on cable. They are all liberal. There is only one conservative TV News Channel and that’s Fox. We find out things there we’d never know otherwise. Plus they only go to the liberal sites on the internet. They pat each other on the back instead of challenging what is going on. They do no investigative reporting as they used to do.

  • P. Fitzmorris

    Everyone wants law and order as long as the system that enforces the law and order is the system that they agree with.

    • eyeswideopen

      P. Fitzmorris, you hit the nail on the head with a loud bang!!! So things won’t change.

    • David

      No 25% want the system to stroke them with no value added by them. 70% want to be left alone and follow the golden rule while providing for their families unimpeded. The 5% elites want to control ever aspect of what we do and if we do not comply we will be rounded up and eliminated…..but this is only in their dreams! We are ready.

  • American Citizen

    Public opinion is private opinion that makes noise. We need to make a lot of it.

    • eyeswideopen

      American, have you ever gone on a liberal site and given your opinions? It takes a lot of nerve and you have to put your feelings on hold. Why don’t you try it?

      • David

        Why go there when they are already here? Their sites suck anyway.

        • libertytrain

          David – it’s totally illogical to me why these folks feel the need to hang out here — unless perhaps it’s to get more attention from their inane posts – by their multiple “personas” with basically the same personality – than they would get on their own like-minded sites

          • David

            They get their feelings hurt because it is just them on those websites…so they come over here to lash out at us since they rarely have any facts to back their comments. Oh yes and we are racists too because we do not agree with obama care. Hello even the Chinese do not want us to get it….they own most of our debt and know what will happen.

          • Joe H.

            David,
            Even the Chinese yelled at O-man about his unbacked spending! I think they are a little worried about their “investment”!

          • DaveH

            Liberty,
            They only seem like the same person because they all chant the same Liberal propaganda from MSNBC and the other Fringe Media stations. They have no clue how to think for themselves.

          • libertytrain

            Dave – eyes has at least 6 names she uses – probably more – the wording is the same – notice that this week she’s become even more snotty – kind of closer to maryland mom’s style – but just short of it.

      • DaveH

        Eyeswide,
        You, denniso, Normal Guy, and others have given us a good taste of the futility of trying to carry on a rational discussion with Liberals. Why would any of us want to beat our heads against a wall? In the Liberal world, disgorgement of propaganda and personal attacks pass for fact and intelligence. If we want to hear the Liberal Spin we can just tune in to MSNBC.

        • libertytrain

          DaveH – No need for further replies to your named characters – they are ridiculously spoiled children just seeking out attention anywhere they can attempt to find it … kind of like leeches. Not worth any of our time dealing with these type of folks. Again an actual definition but so apropos — either definition seems to fit -
          Cambridge Advanced Learner’s Dictionary
          leech noun

          a fat worm which lives in wet places and fastens itself onto the bodies of humans and animals to take their blood

          disapproving name for a person who gives attention to someone over a long period in order to get their money or support

          • DaveH

            Liberty,
            I think ‘spoiled children’ is an excellent analogy. We have given them freebies for too long and now, like spoiled children, they are throwing a fit because they think it is owed to them.

      • American Citizen

        Why open myself open to a lot of grief. I can see from posts by liberals here they don’t deal in reality. If you try to debate them, they call you names because they can’t offer sensible answers.

      • Joe H.

        Eyes,
        Try that on huffpo. If you present a differing view or disagree with the standard theme you get banned, I TRIED IT and without ANY feelings in the mix. So now I give you guys what you gave me there!

      • JeffH

        I was naive when I started out on MSNBC’d Newsvine. I was ridiculed and kicked off because I was conservative and spoke my mind. Two bloggers made rude, agitating comments and when I responded in kind, I was censured and my account deactivated. Granted, when their attacks started, I returned the medicine two fold. I pleaded my case with the moderator, pointing at specific comments which were just as or more offensive than mine. Deaf ears. Every liberal site is full of the same liberal hacks that post comments on this site. The names might be differant, but the song is always the the same. Bush, Cheney, 8 year memories and everyone is KKK, NRA gun toting rednecks from the south who only hate Obama because he is not white. It looks as if corporations will be added to that list. Amazing!

        • eyeswideopen

          Jeff, you mean like here, when you call me a Troll, 38 times on one post and when I call you a ditto head they remove ditto head for offensive content? You people live in a world where you think you are perfect and always right. Doesn’t it occur to you that you must have been wrong or you would still be in power? Do you think our problems will just solve themselves? You and Dave, want no regulations on anything, and you don’t think that the corruption will get worse? This site is a perfect example, Bob, regulates what is allowed, he does that for a reason. If you have no controls you will have anarchy. Lowering taxes and letting the corporations run wild will not solve our problems. But you can dream on. Why don’t you ask Bob, why he has restrictions on this site, and if he will remove them?

          • Joe H.

            At least you weren’t banned!!!!

  • Guy

    Spot on Bob & like your choice of pics!
    Those with decent morals mix and match well. When Clinton got a pass on Impeachment, Ling took off like a bottle rocket screaming at the TV; “Those Caucasins got no morals”

    These are issues of freedom, and morals easily understood by anyone with a brain

  • http://www.easyinvest.co.za pete

    Maybe they are evil or maybe they are just ignorant but whatever their agenda is, I shall never be their slave! I answer to no man! My sorrow is that I never met any man worthy of respect, but then neither am I! Maybe some day we will all know the truth! God help us all!

    • Joe H.

      Pete,
      What is there not to respect about a man that dives on a live grenade to save his fellow soldiers? I give that kind of person all the respect I can possibly muster. There are many people today that deserve respect. You want heroes? look at the black man that stays by his family and works himself to death so that they can have what he didn’t. Especially when it’s so easy to run and half the world would find excuses for him. That’s a hero! Look at the very few Muslims that openly decry what Muslims around the world are doing.. That’s a hero. There are many people that deserve respect you just have to be willing to look for them!!!

      • Jana

        Great answer Joe.
        I also look at the young men and women who volunteered to go to a foreign country to fight the insurgents and the terrorists. These young people are willing to put their lives on the line for their country.
        I also have great respect for the families of these soldiers. Many wives have to work to raise their family alone, while their dh is away. She never knows if she is going to receive that call.

        I have lived that life, as well as my daughter has. Her dh is home now as well as mine is, but these wives and families are heroes too. They support their loved ones. I know there are some who don’t, but there are many many that do. It isn’t easy. My daughter was on a team that went to the homes of those KIA. She stayed by the side of the wife till her close friends or family got there. She was ready to pick up the dog at the vet for these families, or go to the school and get the children with the mother or for the mother. She made phone calls, made sure the children were fed, helped notify family members, and all of this was hard. It was done while her dh was in Iraq too. I admire my daughter greatly.

        Look around, there are many many heroes and people that deserve our respect and admiration. No, they are not perfect, but they are in there trying their best.

  • R. Bryant

    I am trying to get more people actively involved, by forwarding e-mails that are set up to easily sign a petition, or has phone numbers listed so that they can easily call senators, etc., and make it very clear what their objections are, and to also forward the information to their contacts, etc.!!

    • DaveH

      Good for you R. Bryant.

    • American Citizen

      We just signed a petition to make Congress abide by the laws and programs they pass just as we all have to do and that we citizens get the same perks they do. This means they would have the same healthcare we all have and not their cadillac care.

      • Joe H.

        Steven LaTourette R. Ohio tried to get a bill through that required a bill to be posted for 30 days, in its entirety, on the internet before it could be passed. I told people about it on almost every site I could think about telling them to urge their reps to support it and nothing!

        • Jana

          Its sad that we have to learn some of these lessons too late. We are now seeing why its important for that bill to have passed. Sure wished it had.

    • David

      Set up a meeting with them. It really isn’t that hard unless you come from a state with two dem senators….forget about it!

      • eyeswideopen

        David, don’t feel bad I have a Republican Senator who quit in the middle of his term, just like Palin did, and his temp replacement is a Repub whose only goal is supporting the party of No!!. So, we are both in the same ugly situation. Senators not working for the people. Doesn’t really matter what party they are does it? I got a letter from RNC asking me what they should oppose, never once did it mention anything they should try and accomplish…..party of NO, is really a true statement.

  • DaveH

    This is an example of where we’re headed if we don’t wake up and assert our freedom and demand the rollback of Big Government.
    http://blogs.healthfreedomalliance.org/blog/2009/11/16/vaccine-opponents-in-the-ukraine-to-be-arrested/

  • Carol

    There is really nothing called law and order when your next door neighbor is causing so much trouble for you and call the cops and because where they causing the problem is called “public” land even though it right in front of your home.

    They ride all over your drive kick up rock and dirt leave black lines all over the front it is legal and there is nothing we can do. I don’t trust the cops at all they aren’t worth me paying them at all and that is a fact.

    • Jana

      Carol, Get a camera, take pictures. Show the damages. Document the times. Take them to small claims court and keep calling the police anyway.
      The loudest squeak gets the most oil. Good luck.

      • Joe H.

        Jana,
        Amen!!! There’s that concept again Personal responsibility!!!! Libbers hate it!

        • Joe H.

          Carol,
          I don’t know if you will come back or not but I have some advice for you from a police officer I know quite well around here. If your police won’t do anything, take the pictures and videos if you can, make copies, call your police one more time and give it to them. If after that they do nothing, take a copy to the state attorney generals office and show it to them and inform them that your local police refuse to do anything and these guys are next to terrorizing you. That should result in a call to your local police from them but remember, always keep a copy of all the evidence with a friend you can trust!!!

    • DaveH

      Carol,
      You should read this book. It is an eye-opener (and it’s free):
      http://mises.org/rothbard/foranewlb.pdf

  • Raggs

    It will be interesting to see the NWO in place with the current administration that is so frantic to employ.
    The trouble here is the resistance will be meet by a marshal law giving way to captivity without reason.

    And yes all of this is written in the bible.

    Submission of obama to communist by his bows is a very large step in the wrong direction of this country..

    Add all the peices together, and most people will not know what hit them.

    • Mpugh

      Amen to your comment, Raggs.
      And yes, he’s right. All of this is in the bible.

  • Merl Elton

    An inappropriate approach to PC is the cause of much of our problems in law enforcement.
    Regarding health care, the wisdom of the ages never fails. The truth is that the more people we allow into this country; the more people here must die; and for every child born another person must die. When large numbers of people demand health care; and therr are the same or fewer doctors to treat them; the cost for health care will increase; the quality will decrease; and deaths due to rationing lower quality health care will follow. People must limit their numbers; we cannot sustain everyone having 5 children added to the migration of the population of Mexico to the US. Mexico is a third world county of uneducated people who will not in our lifetimes understand the concepts protecting the environment and population control due to lack of education, poverty, religious practices, sexually oriented macho culture, etc. However, we need to overcome our ignorance toward limited resources; as everything is finite and we seem to forget that.

  • Merl Elton

    Some of the best words of wisdom I have heard are that when you cannot or will not control yourself; others will.

    • Jana

      The problem is we are controlling ourselves. But, we have set back and allowed others to take our freedoms away.
      It is now time to stand, late or not, stand and stand firm and make our voices heard. When we all get together and collaborate someone is bound to come up with an idea or two or three that we can all get behind. Meanwhile we do have the ability to contact our Reps in Washington, and to gather at these “Tea Parties” and raise our voices in unison and cast our votes.

  • American Citizen

    I watched C-Span today when they were having an investigation into the Hasan/Fort Hood event. Made me sick. It was just as we all thought, political correctness and his so-called First Amendment rights. We’ll see what happens next. Military rules also entered into it.

    • American Citizen

      I should have said, foolish military rule. You don’t dare be a whistleblower.

    • DaveH

      What gets me is that I’ve heard nobody address the real problem about Fort Hood. Even O’Reilly blamed it on the perp’s ability, even though known to be unstable, to secure the handguns.
      What about all those unarmed victims on a military base of all places? First the do-gooders disarm us and keep us from protecting ourselves, then they go to all sorts of contortions to give us the false illusion that they can actually protect us. Those soldiers were made victims by that anti-arm fervor.

      • Jana

        Actually, I have been on many posts and have not seen any of the soldiers on post armed. Even in Germany they weren’t. Some were at the gates but inside the gates no.
        Most of the bases or posts as they are called in the Army are like cities inside. They have everything in them. Hood is the size of a med. sized city. They have shopping malls, meeting places, food courts, stores of all kinds,Post Office and even a gun range. There are a lot of civilians on post too that work there. There may be 44,000 soldiers there, but there are probably that many civilians too, including the families of the soldiers that are there for various and sundry reasons. If you have a gun and say you are going to the range who would know what they might do.

        • DaveH

          I believe, Jana, that 99% of our population are good law-abiding citizens. That would be especially true of trained soldiers. If people were allowed to arm themselves, do you really think anybody could kill and wound as many people as Nidal did?
          I would feel a lot safer with many more people armed (preferably concealed). An armed society is a polite society (and safer).

          • Jana

            Dave, I agree.

  • Nancy Anderson

    I believe Soldiers on base or post should be allowed to carry their guns. I believe the Fort Hood massacre was a terrorist attack. I also do not want any Obamacare!! This administration and congress are taking our rights away from us. Whatever happened to “We the people” and our constitution? I say NO to Obamacare and I want to keep my 2nd amendment rights.

  • Michael McNaughton

    I have come to beleive that nothing is quite what it seems.

    Our liberal medai a WORSE than useless. With them its all about entertainment adn ratings. The mainstream news adn “the view don’t differ from each other much. Both try to feed us a stream of pap contining no useful information.

  • http://personallibertydigest Gunny

    Look at israel, everyone in uniform is armed, and as I understand it they are REQUIRED to be armed. Why aren’t all people in uniform armed while on base? If this were the case, the Fort Hood killings would not have happened or at least less people would have been shot

  • http://personalliberty.com True Patriot

    I get so sick and tired of people thinking they have to mother and protect “W” like he is their retarded step brother! If he was so wonderful let his merits speak for themselves! Everyone has to start looking after themselves, as if no one else will do it for them, because they aren’t! We have to become more independent and quit looking to Government to wipe our nose. I have Never expected anything from Government and so far I haven’t been disappointed! There is no such thing as a presidential election in this country it has historically been a selection. So quit making fools out of yourselves and declaring that you’re a Dem. or Rep. because your vote doesn’t mean diddly-do! Why do you think they call it a Polling place because a Poll is a fancy word for survey, your not voting you’re being polled! Why do you think there are safeguards put in place for guarding the office of the president such as: only 2 parties; with only 2 parties you can control the outcome! with a third party its a loose cannon! People are so naive they think they get what they want when they vote when in reality they get exactly what was predetermined that they would want! “CHANGE” the only change I’ve seen is that this one makes less mistakes when reading the teleprompter! The policies and club members are exactly the same! He didn’t clean house, he put the cats in charge of the catnip! He’ll bring troops home? He shipped more out! “CHANGE” Change is what you’ll have in your pocket after you cash your paycheck and all the taxes have been taken out!

  • Mrs. Kim Mack

    Wisdom is acquired, earned and based upon opening yourself up to listen!!! It is found by taking thoughtful soul searching accountable perceptual measures. Wisdom holds each individual accountable for their actions.

    If you don’t seek and learn from wisdom, then your going to keep making the same mistakes over… till you learn them. Like Faith, it is elusive and takes work to master. You can find it in places like one’s desires of spirit, soul searching, reading, learning by hands on, learning off of others, by having your own personal fortitude and in true strength of tolerance but definitely in one’s own personal accountability.

    Wisdom is not acquired overnight. It is mysterious. It evolves out of life layering experiences. Pay close attention to its whispers, for if you don’t you will be receiving corrections to relearn the lessons until you master them. Each truth is another layer to pealing back more truths. These can be joyous discoveries or painstakingly truths. Regardless wisdom like faith is infinite, boundless, requires personal commitments and layers to self personal discoveries. It can come in simple pleasures, a ha click moments or make great impacts to life altering experiences.

    Thank God! For Wisdom is a “Life Time” to learn. It teaches us direction, purpose and life to seize. True wisdom teaches humility of self, humanity of others, self-compassion and other compassion.

    Wisdom is found in open positive mindset to exploring all the possibilities. It doesn’t dwell in the house of hate or negativity. Wisdom, is at it’s best with good correction. It is found in that “in between place” between the balance of fact verses when to react. It takes all the faith and tenacity to seek it out, find it and act upon it. It takes backbone of accountability to swim against the tide of popular attitude.

    Attitude is not Wisdom, including the current sheep herding politically correct mob mentality to persecute Christian with Faith. This such a knee jerk reaction! For faith like wisdom takes true convictions and strength. Quite frankly, I’m getting a little tired and bored with all the ignorant dribble so politically correct that’s out there by the masses hysteria,mere unhappy negative whinny few or sheep herding media of reactions instead of faction…that being a Christian and attending beautiful faith based foundation church brainwashes you to have sheep mentality or lack of tolerances.

    I thought Religious persecutions was settled upon the foundation of what made this country great. Lord, that was the ignorance and the tyranny of why so many settlers left Europe to face the hardships to come to the New Country. Get wisdom, grow up and face the reality that not all wisdom is spelled out for you just like faith based convictions. But rather wisdom like truth is hard earned and acquired. That’s why is is called belief or oops is it called Wisdom!

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