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While You Were Drowning…

September 2, 2010 by  

While You Were Drowning…

For those of you lucky enough to enjoy vocations which don’t require endless news and issues research, count yourselves doubly lucky that you weren’t subjected to President Barack Obama’s speech marking the fifth anniversary of Hurricane Katrina’s disastrous visit to New Orleans. Granted, Katrina was hard on the Big Easy, but five years later Obama didn’t repair any damage. He was busy doing damage control.

Speaking to an audience of college students at Xavier University, Obama rolled through his standard teleprompter-zombie applause lines:

(“it’s great to be back here in [insert city name]. What a job you all have done recovering and rebuilding from [insert disaster reference here]. I promise you I’ll do everything in my power to ensure [repeat disaster reference here] never happens again. Remember, vote for me, because I give a damn.”)

Then the President, looking remarkably refreshed after his latest vacation — this time in Martha’s Vineyard, an ultra-exclusive enclave favored by liberal millionaires, began spouting talking points which strained credulity, to say the least.

Standing in the heart of a city which was nearly wiped off the map by a combination of decades-long Democrat incompetence and corruption, a dystopic liberal culture of dependence and one mighty impressive natural disaster, the fabulously wealthy President Obama… blamed everything on President Bush.

Again.

But blame is as American a pastime as baseball. Actually, given the multisyllabic surnames dominating most Major League rosters these days, blame is right up there with Mom and apple pie. But Obama is blaming the wrong guy.

With Hurricane Earl now becoming a force to be reckoned with, and the five-year anniversary of the Democrat-engineered Katrina disaster, I thought I’d take a moment to — as the kiddies say — drop a little knowledge on you.

According to Obama, Katrina was:

"a man-made catastrophe — a shameful breakdown in government that left countless men, women and children abandoned and alone.”

Last time I checked, hurricanes are almost never man-made, despite Al Gore’s assertions. As for governmental breakdowns, the actions of Mayor Ray “Chocolate City” Nagin, and Governor Kathleen “Crocodile Tears” Blanco in the face of Mother Nature’s oncoming wrath didn’t exactly reverberate with redoubtable statesmanship. Of course, the goodly people of New Orleans re-elected their Candyman, so some of the blame for their plight can be placed on them.

Actually, quite a bit of the blame for the plight of New Orleans can be set down right on Bourbon Street. Despite the insistence of multimillionaires like Spike Lee and Kanye West, the teeming mass of destitute humanity gathered at the Superdome wasn’t consigned to their plight because “George Bush doesn’t care about black people.” Nor did the levees near the 9th Ward give way because they were secretly destroyed by Federally-placed explosives (sorry, Mr. Farrakhan).

A massive hurricane formed in the Bahamas, made its way into the Gulf of Mexico and then headed for Mardi Gras-ville. Bush actually declared a Federal state of emergency two days before Katrina’s landfall. In fact, Bush ended up having to push Louisiana’s Democrat Governor Blanco to order mandatory evacuations less than 24 hours before Katrina’s arrival, with Nagin finally ordering mandatory citywide evacuation later that day.

Beyond that, the pictures tell a far more accurate story than the Democrat-controlled corporate media would ever allow. And I’m not just talking about flooded fleets of school buses. Nor am I referring to those scenic shots of fine Orleans-ians swimming through the flooded streets with filched flat screens (although had they purloined the plasmas earlier, they might have caught the GET OUT, THERE’S A GIGANTIC FREAKIN’ HURRICANE HEADED RIGHT FOR YOU warnings blaring from the boob tube for at least 72 hours before Katrina set up shop near Lake Pontchartrain).

I’m thinking of the thousands of NOLA residents swarming together at the Superdome and adjacent convention center. After decades of voting Democrats into office, they were helpless; willingly robbed of their ability to fend for themselves beyond basic self-preservation instincts. Nagin, Blanco and the massive, overarching bureaucracy created by virtually unfettered liberal authority — granted by the electorate — had abandoned them at the crucial moment and they were prostrated before God and CNN.

Five years later, and still, according to Obama: Bush did it.

Now I’m going to throw out a heavy concept for you port-siders: Let’s assume that Bush DID do it. Let’s say he engineered a hurricane, directed it to New Orleans, dynamited the levees, ensured Blanco and Nagin would both fumble the ball on the goal line, pulled the batteries out of the NOLA buses and flooded the city.

Perhaps this is not a man with whom you want to pick a fight.

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • Hflashman

    “Way to go Brownie”

    It was just another hurricane…until it came time to get down there and help. Then, FEMA…recognized as late as 2000 as a model of disaster relief agency admired worldwide…began to come under control of the graft riddled, corrupt, uncaring Bush/Cheney regime…and they proceeded to do to FEMA what they did eventually to our nation…cripple it and rape it for all its worth.

    C’mon…Brown? What a buffoon…like the entire Bush/Cheney administration.

    • Jerry D

      Time to take the blinders off, Leftie. It was extremely obvious at the time that the Louisiana governor deliberately waited for 24 hours before ordering the evacuation. People with any sense took off earlier: my sister-in-law for example. Nagan was so clueless that he sat on his butt and let several hundred buses get flooded rather than use them to evacuate residents. Lefties are willing to let thousands suffer pain and deprivation in order to further their agenda. Wake up!

      • Greg Arnold

        I am so glad to see someone else noticed the ACRES of school buses sitting in flooded parking lots. Ray Nagin can’t escape the spotlight on this one, crying on TV for help in getting people out of the city. What, no one could drive a school bus? The pictures of the parking lots have really been etched in my memory, what a waste.

        • libertytrain

          me too -

    • David

      Flashman, you are intelligent enough to memorize the liberal talking points, but apparently not intelligent enough to notice that the public is no longer buying them. Anyone capable of reading at more than a second grade level knows that the Mayor and the Governor had the responsibility to order and over see evacuations. And even you, Flashman must have by now seen the pictures of the flooded school buses that could have taken the victims out of harms way. And remember the kid who hot wired one of the buses and hauled a busload to safety? And the Mayor came up with the lame excuse that he didn’t have enough drivers. And the last time I checked, the Mayor and the Governor were Democrats.

      Do the world a favor and crawl back under your rock.

      • Charie

        I know people who are still waiting (not really, but they could be) for FEMA to show up from Hurricane Charlie damage during the Clinton administration. Flash, you really have to read something besides HuffPo, Daily Kos and D.U.it’s rotting your brain.

        The only time I ever heard that FEMA was a rapid response team was after Katrina. Before that FEMA (at that time a claims group, more or less, not an early responder group) always ambled in 2-3 days after the fact, but then the governors of the states concerned usually had enough sense to allow the feds in, even encouraged it, surprisingly enough. Remember the Posse Comitatus law.

      • independant thinker

        “Flashman, you are intelligent enough to memorize the liberal talking points,”

        I wonder about that, even a parrot has enough intellegence to quote back the words they are exposed to day after day.

    • Shibamom

      You are sickeningly idiotic in your rants!

    • J. Overstreet

      Here’s a thought: let’s say Pres. Bush DID order an evacuation – not his job but that of the individual state – and the hurricane bypassed LA. Everyone would have been upset with him because he stuck his nose in a states business. The guy just can’t win.

      • Hflashman

        Who said evacuation was the solution. The disaster of Katrina was the post hurricane relief…totally screwed up by the “Way to go Brownie’ regime of the agency.

        • thinking

          hflash?
          Wouldn’t you think building a city below sea level where huricanes are well known is not a smart move? Lets blame it on God! Have you been to the area before Katrina? It was the gathering place of the poor, Why? Because people with inteligence moved to higher ground.

          • bluefish

            New Orleans is not below sea level. Not much above sea level, but above. It’s that the bottom of the river is above the city behind the levees. Because of all the levees that have been built in the last 150 years, the bottom of the river has risen from all the silt coming downstream. See “Control of Nature” by John McPhee.
            The real cause of the failure of the levees is the Congress and local politicians and developers. The Congress because they mandated levee protection for New Orleans and then didn’t provide enough money to do it. The Army Corps of Engineers is mostly responsible for the levees, and every year asked for funds to properly take care of the levees but Congress always cut the amount of money they asked for. The local politicians and developers screwed up Lake Pontchartrain which helps protect New Orleans from hurricanes. I guess I don’t have to explain their motives-greed and power.

          • gramps

            Bluefish, New Orleans IS by large below and at sea level. The area above sea level is concentrated along the Mississippi River and coast line. Yes the Army Corps of Engineers has the responsibility to maintain the levees just like the U.S. Forest Service has the responsibility to maintain the forest but every time they try doing their jobs some whacked out environmental group files a lawsuit. Place the blame on the whacked out environmental group for the shabby levees.

        • del

          I say evacuation was the most important aspect. The ones with any intelligence evacuated themselves. The ones that didn’t leave were stupid and we don’t need that in the nations Gene pool anyways.

    • Bruce D.

      Ouch!!! Ben crystal tells it like it really is. I knew hflashman would not take the truth lying down he never does. Hflashman will have a hard time peddling his liberal nonsense and liberal excuses here.

    • Jon

      Typical liberal drivel- must be a blogger. FEMA had never been tested like this and would NOT want to see a situation that would require Obama’s administration to respond. Your beloved Mayor Nagin is the real culprit- and has profited handsomely from the money sent for the displaced residents…. but they are still displaced! New Orleans is so infested with liberal idiots that even Nagin realizes he can get reelected and clean up his city by making the residents of the welfare parishes destroyed some other city’s problem. Hello Atlanta, hello Houston! How’s your crime rates since the arrival of your new permanent resident?

      • Ceddy Bear

        You are too funny. I live in Houston and the education program has suffered greatly from the evacuees. The educators just pushed them through to graduation because there was never a hope that they would graduate on their own efforts. The administraters would call the evacuees “the others” when talking about them in secret.

        • TOMCAT

          Sad is it not? For to say that one person (President Bush) had the only hand in the response towards this disaster. Say i would, could be them Dems might have some blame.

    • old white guy

      ya, a bunch of welfare bums unable to do anything for themselves. ya must be bush and not the a–hole socialists who created the problem.

    • Dan Burke

      Oh, yeah!…. ROFL. That Bush incompetence in managing FEMA must be why everything was so bad afterwards? (sarcasm with that question)

      So why did the locals turn away assistance at first? Both from Pres. Bush and private charities. They turned away all sorts of assistance that was being offered from all over the nation. Despite their inability to heed a warning and exit before the disaster happened, there was a great outreach of assistance and much was turned away, denied. So if you are blaming Bush, I want to know why they turned away assistance at first? And that included your much vaunted FEMA.

    • marvin

      Hflashman,aka the liberal bush hater like i have said and will say bush is not in charge your king the great and all knowing odumbo is in the white house but who is in charge it sure an,t obama/biden, hell for all we know the flashman mabe, he is just about as smart as that bunch of rocks in the white house now

      • Jody

        I think George Soros is the puppet master. Look at the statements he has made about taking America down. Look at the things he has done to other soverign nations. He has bankrupted several.

    • 45caliber

      flash:
      FEMA? Recognized as a model of disaster relief?

      What have you been smoking?

      • JC

        That was the first thought that hit me too.

    • WaChar

      flash, just how much are you paid to monitor true Americans and then utter your contemptable lies?

    • meteorlady

      So Texas got a lot of refugees who were more worried about how they would get their entitlement checks, then who was injured, died, what was lost, etc. We are still stuck with these people because they are too lazy to go back and help rebuild their city and because they are worried their welfare checks won’t find them. Because of a liberal Houston mayor, Houston is stuck will over 100,000 of the free loaders.

      As for Bush/Cheney – what exactly did they do to cause FEMA to be inefficient? I am just curious where you got your information. Perhaps you need to understand that the mayor was the FIRST line of response, planning and emergency services; then comes the GOVERNOR. They both fell flat on their butts and were worthless. So FEMA was not even requested by either the mayor or the governor until it was a mess.

      Again, what exactly did Bush and Chaney do to cause you to believe the junk you just posted?

      • Nina

        You all can not forget that while every level failed, including FEMA, every person individually who was there, failed themselves. Every one who stayed expected the government to take care of them. (why?) Common sense in New Orleans totally evaded everyone there. This all aside, it was a “natural” disaster of such magnitude that as every level failed, it stopped at the Federal Government. The “blame” trickled up! It was a horrible mistake beginning first at the appropriate level…Nagin, and then on up. However, this country responds better to aid other countries rather than take care of its own. I wish our Government would prioritize the US people and especially their money by using it here in this country!

      • libertytrain

        Meteorlady – I recall having this conversation with my extreme leftist sister and father shortly after the hurricane. I told them about the Mayor not getting those people out with all those buses he intentionally let sit – I told how the governor refused to ask for help until it was too late, I told them Constitutionally the Pres could not come in without the governor’s request – I told them so many couldn’t evacuate cause they had no cars. I don’t know what news station they watched, if they watched, but they refused to believe what I told them was based on factual multi-news station, face-to-face interviews –whatever- I see no point in having further discussions with leftists that absolutely denied any of those problems existed, blamed Bush and still blame Bush for anything and everything that ever occurred.

      • Bob

        You’re wrong Fema is responsible for emergencies.

        • Steve S

          Please define what you mean by responsible. Your statement is a non statement.

    • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

      Hey HFlashFlushman,
      Were you down there helping and feeding the victims? How many millions $$ did your Democrat Millionaires provide. Give us the names, facts and $$ you and them provided. Otherwise move to Venezuela, Cuba or Iran. You need to take you head out of your “Como se LLama” and quit drinking crap Kool Aid not leaving out the Obama crap you eat and swallow daily..

    • Tara

      Katrina was the first of many natural disasters. Through not fault of their own, Many Americans needed help. With time, I think we will see many more natural disasters.
      That said..
      Our leaders need to be fugal with our Social Security funds. STOP bailing out big businesses. American people will need their social security funds.
      The America I knew, kept Big Government out of Businesses. Meaning that if a company is failing due to lack of proper management, they should be allowed to fail and another will take their place. Why reward companies for doing poorly? And why use tax-money?
      Americans pay taxes, we should have a voice in how they are used. My voice would like to help the Americans affected by disasters. NOT used to bail out failing businesses. Please.

  • Jerry D

    Very good article. I’m not sure how much good it will do, though. The Lefties have never been good at rational thinking. They prefer to prevaricate broadly to build a case for their noxious agendas. They’ve never really been swayed by the truth.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Jerry D,
      On the contrary, The left has been swayed quite often by the truth. Been swayed to turn their back on it, try to lie against it, in fact swayed to turn and run from the truth!!!

      • Jerry D

        When you put it that way, you’re absolutely right!

    • Tara

      Amen ;)

  • Angel Wannabe

    That’s all we continue to hear, that it Bush’s fault!__Quite, frankly, I think living along the coast people tend to get used to severe storms,they tend to ride them out, rather than prepare or evacuate for them. Although the weather service gave people plenty of time, to get to higher ground, a lot of people never thought the hurricane was going to be as devastating as it was, some of the elders didn’t have a way out.___Ya know one night in Aug of 1990, while the family and I got ready to go, and grab a bite to eat, at the local Mickey D’s. On our way out, I walked into the living room, to close the front door. As I went to walk away, the soles of my shoes, stuck to the slate foyer floor. As I bent down and touched the floor, the heat radiating from it, practically burned my fingers. I yelled to my husband, my God the Basement’s on fire.__Anybody remember the movie Flash Back__If your stupid enough as I was and, ya open a door where there is a fire, hang on, because when I opened it, the force slammed me against the hallway wall. As smoke poured up the stairs, I laid on my belly, and shimmied down the steps, trying to see where the fire was, to my horror, over half of the basement ceiling was already, engulfed__I yelled to my husband get the kids out now!____As a result, we spent the next 6 hours battling the fire, with 4 fire companies, in between, several trips to the ambulance for oxygen for smoke inhalation. By 3:30 the next morning, the fire was out and left us, homeless with only a shell of 15 years.___My point is this, If I’d had known that within 3 days, there was going to be a fire, that would leave us homeless, you can bet your azz, I’d have made provisions, to get the heck outta there then!__Had I waited for someone to help us or tell us to get to outta there, I and the family would’ve been dead!__ In a crisis, you don’t sit around and wait!____As far as Katrina goes, I remember seeing, people floating cases of beer and their wives on rafts in the water, there were hoards of school buses, swamped in water up to they’re roofs, and I remember wondering why in the hell, weren’t those buses used, to bus the people(especially the elderly, babies and the sick)out of NO!
    Frankly they had plenty of notice to get out, if ya chose to ride it out and didn’t go, that’s your fault, your accountable. If people who were sick and elderly, had no way out, and NO didn’t help provide a way, that’s a tragedy, and just sad. The aftermath, Personally I think alot of the suffrage was caused by bureaucratic BS and piss poor planning in New Orleans. How can your NOT have a good evacuation plan in the event of a flood, in a city, THAT’S BELOW SEA LEVEL. The size of the storm was devastating, but Piss poor planning & bureaucracy, made a terrible situation even worse.

    • Jon

      Many of the residents had no need to fend for themselves before. They were the products of generations of government entitlements. What part of ” You have a Category 5 hurricane coming in a few days-and you are living below sea level” did they not understand?

    • libertytrain

      Angel – John – remember that in that city there were a whole lot of people who didn’t have access to or own a car. It was vital that the Mayor use his brain and load up those busses. But he chose not to. As far as I’m concerned HE is more responsible for the deaths that occurred than any one person or agency. He knew his people’s needs far better than even the ding-bat governor who refused George Bush’s help because her ego would not allow it – when she did ask, it was kind of too late.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Liberty Train, I agree, there was plenty the locals could’ve done and didn’t! And your right in saying, that New Orleans politicians knew waaaay more about the needs of its people in a catastrophe, than the Feds_But then again, how much easier is it to Blame Bush!

  • JUJUBEAN

    Even up here in the upper Mid-West we KNEW the hurricane was coming and it was predicted to hit New Orleans. Even when the governor finally declared evacuation 2 days ahead of the landfall, I would have packed up my tent and survival stuff, leashed my dogs and WALKED out of there if there was no other way. This should have been a lesson in self-reliance. A lesson on how to pull up your bootstraps and help yourself. Instead, it is reinforced that someone should have helped these people and made these people more convinced that they are VICTIMS and should be receiving bailouts and entitlements. For shame on Obama and all the liberals who continue to blame Bush!!

    • Bob

      The people couldn’t leave because welfare checks were due the next day. What our gov’t since the days of FDR have done to poor people is a crying shame. We should be lifting these people to another level so they can become givers instead of takers. I won’t blame one party ot the other because they are one and the same.

      • Al Sieber

        I agree on that one.

      • J. Overstreet

        Excellent point!!!

        • Angel Wannabe

          JOverstreet__ditto!

      • Bruce D.

        I agree government will do anything to make people reliant on them, including bankrupting businesses. The left is making sure people are not competent enough to deal with life situations. The whole concept behind socialism is to make sure no one has any incentive left to do anything so government can assume complete control over what they consider their poor pathetic masses. What makes me sick is the left want to do the same with illegals. Put them on government programs and sit them in front of TVs until it is time to vote for more entitlements (as if they were entitled).

      • independant thinker

        “I won’t blame one party ot the other because they are one and the same.”

        I cannot agree that the parties are one and the same. There are differences. However both will screw us over what it comes down to is how it happens the Democrat way or the Republican way.

      • JC

        We need to slowly reduce welfare benefits for career recipients, until there is nothing left…and teach them to work.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          JC,
          don’t you know to them that’s a four letter cuss word???

    • Jon

      Right on! Typical liberal reaction to deflect blame elsewhere when the house of cards they are building is about to fall. The liberal progressive crew should go to Iran and tell them how its done. (at least it would rid us of them-permanently)

      • Bob

        Jon You have Iran stuck in your brain. Save that drivel for the temple.

  • Lewis Munn

    As a radio engineer, and a former ham operator, I got a different view. City officials resisted the offers of HAM operators to help with communications. The hams were ready to help, and did some, on their own, but the reports were the city was uncooperative.

    Not Bush or any federal folks, the locals.

    Just something to think about, when a group who practices emergency aid, and is there ready to help for free is refused…??? Something was rotten in Saint Louie!

    There were also problems with failure to close flood gates reported. I cannot speak to that personally.

    I recall that the Mayor kept telling Bush to take care of everything, but refused to request aid, and Bush could not force aid on the city, legally. The democratic officials fiddled while St. Louis drowned…and then pointed fingers at Bush.

    • Dagney

      Kind of reminds me of this latest oil disaster in the Gulf and our government refusal of foreign skimmers and aid to help remove the oil being spewed. The left makes it obvious they want the disasters….ensure it is prolonged, don’t care who gets killed, whose business it destroys, just as long as they can use it to get votes for their side or to make their collectivist arguments seem the correct way to go. For the gulf oil spill, the plan was to use it to demonize the oil companies. For New Orleans, the plan was to demonize a Republican president. It’s evil, just pure evil.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Dagney, Katrina & the BP oil is, just another example of the friggin’ mee the Feds create, when they get involved in somhthing!__No better examples!

        • Angel Wannabe

          dagney how about friggin mess, thats what I meant to say!

      • Tara

        I wonder if there was any usable oil procured from the BP scandal? Really, that was a large volume of oil that BP tapped into. Bad Science at work there. If they could see it, they could target it. Therefore it should have been an easy target to save the oil.

  • THINK ABOUT

    Just where did the writer of this article get his information. Apparently not from the book of facts, Louisiana has had many years of republician leadership. Did you ever research how you get that many people out of an area that size. The roads out was filled, gridlock, and if you compare it to NYC, most of the people living there has depended on public transportation and don’t even own cars. Do you think you could evacuate NYC within 24 hours, get real. The folks in the dome was ask to bring supplies for two days, Monday morning event and Thursday there still was not any relieve. Had the levees held it would not have been such a disaster, they did not. Have you ever tried to shovel water, guess what, it don’t work that way. We have gotten relief in many other countries before we got relief to the Katrina area. It wasn’t just the people in the Super Dome but many more people. The man made disaster was the failure of levees and slow response after Katrina. You don’t have a clue, the governor and mayor had ask for help before the storm but apparently FEMA did not have the proper response. So much money was wasted after the storm, folks in the area did not get the money, trailers placed in fields in Arkansas, never delivered to the area, rotted, but someone got paid to deliver them. Trucks of ice rolling around but never delivered. What a disaster. Unless you want to tell the truth, then don’t tell a lie. You should be ashamed and if you are not, then you need to be placed in 103 degree temperature for several days without shelter and water and see what reaction you have.

    • Charie

      It was actually 3 days worth of supplies they were asked to bring, but apparently few or none even did that.

      There was incompetent leadership from Nagin on up. So people don’t have cars? Everybody in the world saw row after row of schoolbuses sitting in the water. It isn’t that hard to drive a schoolbus yet we only heard of one 17 year old boy who managed to hotwire (I don’t want to look any deeper into that) one of them and drive a busload of people out, the police either ran away to help their own families, or joined in the looting while the officials tried to make up their minds as to whether they’d let President Bush send in the troops. When push comes to shove, too many of the people of New Orleans were found wanting in the ability to help themselves. I find that pitiful as well as disgusting.
      The naked fact is that there apparently was no city plan to do anything about New Orleans helping itself. The only plan seemed to be to have the federal government (taxpayers) save them. Individual citizens gave and gave and gave from every part of this country and still it wasn’t enough. There were concerts and fundraisers given to raise money and it still wasn’t enough. There is no way to count how much largesse was poured into this area and still there are people
      living in emergency trailers after 5 years and most of them are not disabled. Words fail me.

      • http://YouTube.com/CanadaLarry Lawrence Edward Calcut

        Charlie, I think you said it all very well. Your words were well taken and appreciated.

    • Bruce D.

      Yar right, give me a break. Florida has endured many hurricanes including Andrew. You do not hear anyone still winning about them. People picked themselves up. Therein lies the problem. The people of New Orleans were not able to pick themselves up. Too many years of feeling sorry for themselves and government subsidies. The moto of the left is when it is broke don’t fix it. Keep victims-victims. The moto of the poor is let someone else do it.

    • Jon

      Not the city of New Orleans in the last 3 decades.

  • Barbara P

    Very good article. There is something everyone has forgotten, katrina was suppose to head to Florida (panhandle area) after emering back in the gulf. on Friday Aug. 26th. It wasn”t until the next day when we tought it would be heading for us. I live in St. Bernard Parish (7 miles from the 9th ward). We are the forgotten parish, with 65,000.00 residents before Katina. EVERY HOME and BUSINESS was flooded. I personally had 8 and 1/2 feet of water in my home. We rebuilt and are back in the home and parish we love, thanks in part to the federal goverment. We got road home money that made up for what the ins co. refused to pay. For that I am gratful, on the other hand we NEVER would have flooded if it wasn’t for the fed gov, army corps of engineers. We in St. Bernard flooded because of the mrgo Miss river gulf outlet. It’s a short cut to the port of New Orleans, that was opened in the late 1950′s against the will of the people. in St. Bernard. Katrina is over, long gone, I personally would like to forget it, although I know I never will. nor will the media ever let me.

    • THINK ABOUT

      I was in NO in November after Katrina, it was a lot more than just the 9th ward. Isn’t it interesting the reporters was there and reporting but FEMA wasn’t. To go down the streets and see holes in roofs where people went trying to get out of the flood waters, many died in the 103 temperature. I hope never to see or hear of another disaster such as what happened there. God bless you, I know your burdens was heavy.

  • jerry b b

    There is not much to be said for government authorites that only look out for their selfs and their own interests but again there is not much to be said for people that belives that any mortal on this planet had any thing to do with creatlng a hugh storm such as katrina.It is dumb and i don’t realy understand how any one could come up with that conclusion. these storms are natural occuring things and any one that thinks they are man made needs to be put in the looney bin or they need some serious tutoring. I think obummer and his henchmen are like the two headed snake called a rattle head.it has a head on both ends and no place to relive its congestion that is why it’s so mean and will strike at any thing that gets to close.

    • THINK ABOUT

      You don’t get the real truth, the disaster was after Katrina had passed through, the levees broke, FEMA arrived many days later, it was not just NO. We get relief in far away places before relief arrived in the Katrina struck area.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        THINK ABOUT,
        Bush was damned if he did, damned if he didn’t. If he went in without waiting to be asked, he would have been impeached! Since he didn’t go in uninvited, he is damned by the left as uncaring!!! The left had a field day over Katrina and their hands weren’t completely clean on it as well. How many of the left actually contacted the governor and tried to convince him to ask for help? How many of them called and said “Governor your people are dying and you need to get off your azz and ask for help.”?? NONE!!! They were too busy waiting for Bush to screw up so they could hang him!!!

  • J.Michael

    The fault of Katrina can be looked at as a political failure, as well as an infrastructure catastrophe. Both parties carry the blame, as well as the people of NOLA. One of the biggest problems in the U.S. is infrastructure and it is also one of the most neglected. The levies were in need of repair. Unfortunately, infrastucture isn’t a hot topic until it falls apart. So, sitting here playing the blame game is just a waste of time. But, if that’s all you got then, I guess that’s all you got. Carry on!

    • C.HOPE

      Just remember, folks: The same fine people on the “hill” who have brought you FEMA and all wonderfully managed federal government programs will now control your health care, thanks to the new and improved healthcare bill “ramroded” earlier this year. Isn’t that a cheerie thought? Possibly the huge power of the federal government is not the answer to all problems.

      • Angel Wannabe

        chope, and that in itself, scares the hell outta me, and so it should everyone else!!!

    • JUJUBEAN

      When a city is built below sea level and a hurricane of this magnitude is coming,there is not a levi designed that could withstand that kind of force. Evacuation was the correct action.

      • TIME

        Dude, You just hit the bloody nail on the head. Great post.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Time,
          what’s even worse is who in their right mind builds a toxic waist dump in that same bowl????

    • Charie

      From all I’ve read there was plenty of money sent to NOLA to reenforce the levees over the years and it was all squandered. How, I haven’t the slightest idea, but it was what the feds always do. Pass a law, throw money at it then turn their backs and never follow through or monitor what happens to the money. THAT’S TOO MUCH LIKE REAL WORK! It’s taxpayer money that lines the pockets of crooks who are close enough to get their hands in the cookie jar. It’s what has given us this huge deficit over the years.

      Who will monitor the people who are supposed to be monitoring taxpayer money being spent? Who? Why you and me, the taxpayers, my friends. You can bet your life on that. If we take our eyes off the ball this time, our whole country will go down!

      • 45caliber

        Charie:
        If they audited to make sure where the money went, someone might want to audit them too. And that wouldn’t be fair!

    • Bruce D.

      The money to fix the levies was diverted to social welfare by the State and by New Orleans. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make them drink.

    • old white guy

      why would anyone want to live below sea level? sooner or later the sea will take back that land.

      • 45caliber

        Why would anyone want to live on an outer island, building a million dollar house there, when hurricanes come? Yet they do all the time. Take a look at the islands along the east coast right now.

        • Bob

          The Outer Islands of NC is being evacuated at this moment and no one is sure where it’s going. Some people put up with the weather because they like where they live. I don’t think anyone else should be concerned. I would never live in a city but wouldn’t criticize anyone who does.

          • 45caliber

            Yes, but you also pay when their houses are washed away or damaged through your own insurance rates.

            I was on Kewa Island some years ago. There were 250,000 people on the island – and only a single one lane bridge off of it. Further once off, you had to drive over twenty miles in a narrow 2 lane highway – and the ditches stood half full of tidal water all the time. A rise of a couple of feet and you would be cut off.

            I asked the man at the hotel where I stayed about the fear of a hurricane. He told me that there hadn’t been a hurricane in 30 years and they would never have another so there was no need to worry.

            The next year they had their first hurricane on the east coast in thirty years – at Kewa Island.

      • TOMCAT

        So true, just ask the Dutch. (for those who do not no who they are the live in Holland AKA Netherlands)They have been dealing with this issue forever and they do not even have Hurricanes going through there.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        old white guy,
        actually the Dutch have been doing it for centuries as they build dikes and reclaim land from the sea!!!

  • Hurricane Glenn

    I was in Durban, South Africa on business at the time Katrina was headed towards the Big Eazy. I had a friend who’s entire family was in great fear for there daughter who had been enjoying a high school graduation trip to Houston with other classmates. Four of the girls decided to take an extended trip to New Orleans to visit the city before flying home. They were staying in the Ramada Hotel in the downtown area when the storm hit. There family lost communications with them for five days and they were so frightened for her safety they were nearly paralized in fear. I tryed to reassure them that they need not worry. That New Orleans and Louisiana had hurricanes before and they were surely prepared to handle the problems and care for the people who were trapped in the city. After we received the news that they had made there way out after five days in the hotel by swimming through floating bloted corpses I felt embarrased and ashamed of my earlier assurances to the family. The girls later told a story of black gangs roving through the downtown area robbing, looting, terrorizing and murdering their victims as they watched from their fifth floor window. Early on a police officer had givin a man in the hotel a gun to help protect the few occupants from the gangs and that is the only reason that these girls were not raped or murdered because the gangsters were out of control and the police department had abandoned their duties. The mayor and the Governor are to blame here along with all the other corrupt public officials of that city and state at the time. Bush and Cheney to blame? I think NOT!

    • Al Sieber

      Then Mayor Nagin ordered that nobody could be armed, and gun confiscation started with National Guard Troops, Black Water etc. people that took a oath to the constitution did this.

      • 45caliber

        Right. We have a law in Texas now that declaring an emergency is not grounds for taking up guns due to it.

        A man I heard about had an apartment in one area above the water. He and his girlfriend stayed there. His car was parked in an elevated garage.

        After the storm when it was apparent that they were not going to get food, water, etc. he got his car and drove it to the apartment. He had an SKS he carried over his shoulder. When he went down to load his car, a half-dozen gang members were trying to get into it. He yelled and they started toward him. He turned to show the SKS – and they immediately left. He swore that without the gun, he and his girlfriend would undoubtedly been robbed and killed. I believe him.

        And Nagan wanted the lawful citizens disarmed because he was afraid they might shoot some of the looters.

        • Al Sieber

          45, we have a law like this in Ariz. now also, criminals think twice.

        • JC

          Amen to gun rights. Never give them up.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JC N Al,
            Everyone says gun control is bad? I think it’s great!! I control where my gun goes EVERY DAY and I intend to do so till I die!!!

  • American

    I didn’t see any mention in this article of the fact that federal money was given to the state to make necessary repairs and improvements to the levees long before Katrina was even heard of. What I’d like to see is an investigation as to where that money actually went.

    And I’d also like to point out that we hear so much about how there are still many residents who are homeless or otherwise not happy with their living conditions but we don’t hear about the aid that has been sent to help them. Groups all over the country donated money, supplies and time to help people who wouldn’t lend a hand to help themselves. My son has twice been to the area and worked on homes and both times has come back to say the property owners were either nowhere to be found or else sitting in the house watching TV. I spent $400 of my own money (that nearly broke me) on food, water, clothing and cleaning supplies and my contribution wasn’t enough to be noticeable in amount that was sent by others. Why is it that there is still so much to be done in New Orleans when the surrounding areas, some hit much harder, have rebuilt and the residents have resumed their normal lives? Is it because so many of them that received federal aid spent the money on luxuries and vacations (well documented) instead of on their survival needs just like their state government did?

    I’d also like to rebutt the arguments some have made about the mayor and governor doing a good job. We’ve all been given the facts on this issue; why don’t you understand that they were derelict in their duties? The governor in my state of NC went on national TV YESTERDAY to announce evacuation orders for a hurricane headed our way tomorrow night. She has already announced this morning that evacuation procedures as going smoothly and as planned and that the state is 100% ready for the hit ALREADY. What does that tell you? It tells me that, even though I don’t much like her, Ihave to admit that she is one governor who is doing her job in the face of impending disaster.

    • TIME

      American, Again a very well pointed post. Great points.

    • 45caliber

      As I pointed out below, Nagan was paid $10 mil a year by the government to make sure the dikes were kept in good shape. He gave it to a local contractor who repaid him with donations. No work was ever done and he made no attempt to find out if they did. Then the moment the dike broke (and there was warning for hours before it did in which nothing was done) he blamed the feds for not taking care of it.

      • libertytrain

        I do recall a conversation with a “wealthy” person from New Orleans as to why he was voted in again after Katrina – she said the person running against him was worse. It still made no sense to me, but I don’t live there nor did I find New Orleans a place I would ever want to travel back to. I’m hopeful I am wrong in my assessment of the place but it was not a place I found even remotely desirable to revisit.

        • 45caliber

          I’ve been there a couple of times but I’ve never lost anything there. And I don’t intend to go back unless my business dictates it.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            45caliber,
            I’ve been there a few times, once during the Mardi Gras and I loved the night life, history and the food, oh the food!!! As a coin collector, I found the New Orleans mint of interest as well. I very much enjoy the French Quarter. That area was the least hit part of the city as it is actually “high” ground!!!

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    I think saying this is Bush’s fault is just about the dumbest thing anyone has ever said. I wonder where the money went that would have ‘fixed’ the problem before Katrina hit. Too many people in that area are dependent on the government. The then-mayor and then-governor should have been brought before a grand jury. They should have been the ones that were accountable!

    • thinking

      Robin
      This is what the government is doing now! Wanting us to become more dependent on them and less on our self. Sending food stamps and free healthcare and money to fix your house and on and on. Too many people are getting use to the government hand outs and have for gotten how to do things them self. Spending too much for stuff and going into debt then file bankruptcy, not looking for a job and getting weekly unemployment, money to buy homes, money to buy cars money to buy… The problem is we look to the government to hand over cash. There was a time when things got bad that people helped each other. Actually worked for food or bartered talents, yes there are some that do that but most people look to the government for money and not caring where they get the money from. Look at Greece and you will be seeing how it will be here in the USA soon…

      • 45caliber

        Many of Katrina’s people at the dome in NO were brought to Houston’s Astrodome for care.

        One doctor was there. He saw a number of older women from a church trying to carry mattresses in for people to use for sleep. A number of young men from NO were watching and ridiculing them for what they were doing. He suggested that they help the women since it was obvious the women weren’t really strong enough for the job.

        “What! We lost everything in Katrina and now you want us to WORK! What’s wrong with you!”

        Further in a week of working for nothing to care for these people he was thanked – by one old woman.

  • http://gmail i41

    The bigggest idoits were the clowns that have allowed gangs and corruption to run wild. Secondly if you live below sea level and a storm is headed to you every year, pack up more to higher ground, and think berms and motors are goin to work to save your behind with governemnt help, will work. Notice what the brownies attitude is, da gobernment will save me and feed me. It is multigenerstional attitude and a culture thing, gangs are nothing but the cultural beleifs of going basck to your rrots, and preying on peaceful civilaized populations, just look at the pecentages of any memebers of the confined group. Afffermative action really shines in the major cities, our community organizing work really was on the up and up, instead it was dirty and down down, Oh but it is the socialist democrat party ingrained behavior.

    • 45caliber

      I THINK I know what you were trying to say but I’m not sure.

  • Sam

    Everyone points fingers and blames, but who does what to avert future catastrophes? Recently I read, for the fifth time, Wm. Forstchen’s book “One Second After,” about life in a North Carolina town after an EMP strike burned out the U.S.’s electrical infrastructure. In his work, millions die because of disease, lack of medications, roaming gangs, and so on. It should be noted that the U.S. power grid can be knocked out not only by EMP, but also by computer technicians in a hostile country, or by massive solar flare (the latter happened in 1856 over England, they had a heck of a time getting their telegraph system back up). Recently the DEMOCRAT-controlled House had legislation before it to do something about protecting our power grid from attack, but the measure was shot down.

    Only those who are currently taking active steps will survive the next disaster, again, those who are unprepared, who trust in government, will suffer. Are YOU prepared for the next disaster? Don’t think you have a “right” to feed from the haves, they will gladly give you a one-way ticket to hell. Instead of jumping up and down, pointing fingers at all, I strongly suggest you prepare NOW – because in the next disaster, the person to blame SHOULD be directed at the person in the mirror.

    • 45caliber

      You are correct – unfortunately.

      Actually I can just see an area after an EMP wave hits it. The MSM will rush in and take wonderful pictures of all the people dying – and they film it rather than trying to help the people. And then the government shows them daily to the world as a reason people should “trust the government.”

      • Angel Wannabe

        WELL SAID, 45!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        45caliber,
        I don’t know what happened to the money that was meant for the dikes and flood gates pre-katrina, but my brother in law is down there right now building the flood gates again and he says this time they are doing it RIGHT. He has always prided himself on doing a job well and doing it within budget so I think we may get our money’s worth this time!!!

    • thinking

      Thanks Sam
      It is a slow fade from black and white to shades of gray. We are being trained to depend on the government, this is not good…

  • THINK ABOUT

    Don’t think you know the real story, want to find out where the money went, you should have visited the airport field in Arkansas where the trailers rotted in the fields, check to see how many times a semi filled with ice and moved and moved and finally the ice was left to melt. Wonder why the people did not go back to their homes after the storm, some floated down the street and this was not in the 9th ward but in good neighborhoods. If the money and supplies had gone to rebuilding effort many of the houses would have been rebuilt already. Just who do you think was the leader in charge of FEMA, guess who or I will leave that for you to figure out. The AG of Louisiana tried the health workers in a hospital where sick folks died because of the extreme heat and he got his just reward of being voted out of office. Yes there was gangs doing bad things but assistance failed miserably. To continue to blame the governor of Louisiana, who blames the governor of Mississippi. It was not just NO affected by the storm. You are drowning in your own misinformation.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      THINK ABOUT,
      Yeah and now the government is fighting lawsuits because of charges of formaldehyde contamination in the form of fumes!!! they say it has caused neurological problems and upper respiratory problems as well!!!

  • http://none Mark-223

    Governor=highest state office/power,Mayor= highest city office/power. Who’s responsibile??? I rest my charge.

  • Madeleine Mau

    A lot of damage was done by Katrina, but a lot was done by looters. A store on Canal Street was damaged, not by the hurricane, but by “Looters”.and had to be totally renovated, I was there since in 2006 and the streets were still lined with sleepers in the morning that you had to walk around.

  • Chuck

    As far as I understand FEMA is not really there to help people anymore.
    FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY.
    all the bunkers are for the “rulering class” and fema operates most of them.
    fema mainly functions as a main part of “COG”
    Continuity of government.

    Katrina was a state emergency, not national until the gov and mayer finished their personal race games.
    Buses were provided for evacuation but were refused by the mayor.

  • Liz Wahl Andre

    My Dad, a native New Orleanian and 76 years old at the time, hooked up his fishing flatboat to his old pickup truck and immediately drove to N.O. He and other capable Cajuns formed a relay team with their boats, hauling in stranded people–until FEMA finally showed up and shut that effective operation down. They started turning away other willing boatsmen who came to assist the people stranded by the flood. That’s our government in action (or inaction). Not only inefficient, but forbidding the capable public from helping. Our pioneer, “can-do-it” spirit is being dismantled by Big Brother.

    • Liz Wahl Andre

      O,yeah, the first relief organizations to come to New Orleans and the last to leave were Operation Blessing (700 Club),LIfE Today (James Robison), local churches such as Victory Fellowship, as well as the countless youth minsitries that came afterward and gutted houses and fed the people. Again, the churches are more effective than the government.

      • 45caliber

        And you won’t hear a word about it on the news either.

    • Angel Wannabe

      lIZ, and I’ll defend my “can do” spirit, with my dying breath!

    • JC

      Do you get the feeling they (FEMA) were looking for a high body count? I do.

      • Steve S

        Gimme a break! Unpreparedness and even total incompetence are not the same as murder, even theough they can have the same result. I bet you don’t (like most folks) even understand what FEMA’s roles and responsibilities are. Please define them and prove me wrong! I know, so be careful what you say (gotta do better than your “body count” crap)! There is NO substitute for local preparedness!!! If you think that the feds will come riding to the rescue 5 minutes after the big one, your gonna be a victim, NOT a survivor. Nothing that big rolls right now (but I guess you’d have to have been there and know what you’re talking about)so locals have to be able to weather the first 48 or maybe even more ON THEIR OWN). Newsflash, baby, this is simple reality no matter how much you wish it to be better, not a plot! Where I live, we know aid isn’t coming to us, it’s going to the major population centers. We know it, and are trying to plan and prepare accordingly.To do anything less, like the mayor in question, is criminal!

  • dnld

    The major problem with N.O. was the “give-me” attitude fostered by decades of Liberal Democratic machine – and it continues today. The elected Mayor and Governor were hoplessly ineffective when it came to organizing anything except a trip to the casino. Texas, Mississippi and Florida also got hit, though not as bad. All jumped in and did evacuations, public safety and rebuilding while NOT waiting for the Feds FEMA to catch up. Sure, FEMA was and is inept. We knew that from the start. When did any government program ever work right? Only an idiot would sit on his duff and wait for an inept idiot to help him. Why is it that Louisana is still in the bucket? Everyone else has mostly recovered and moved on. The good news for Louisana is that many of their most worthless do nothings moved to Texas and now we are feeding and housing them! They are probably still voting Democrat and still complaining rather than picking themselves up and moving on like true Texans do. I’d like to see a survey of what the multitude of do nothing transplants are doing now. Bet they are still on welfare!

    • EMA Mark

      dnld,
      In actuallity, FEMA worked VERY well under the two previous Directors, and responded well too. While a democrat, James Lee Witt made FEMA something, and he made it viable, and Joe Allbaugh did a good job too. Brown let it deteriorate quickly in an effort to save money.I saw it with my own eyes!

      • Bob

        They gave cash cards to the residents and they used it in liquor stores, topless bars and casinos. Good thinking.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Bob,
          Let’s not forget the one that got two big TATOOS with it!!!

  • http://personallibertydigest JFS

    HFLASNMANand.other demwits. you have said if a lie is is repeated enough [t will become true.i can turn fire into water.concerning any municipality;the local administration is the first line of defense.mayor;councilmen.lawofficers. governor. and state. officals.federal agencies.in that order. yes or no?.that was not the firsthurricane to hit NOL.FUN CITY.THE GRASSHOPPER PLAYED.THE ANT PREPARED FOR WINTER. //

    • 45caliber

      A lie may be believed if it is told often enough but it doesn’t make it true.

      The trouble is that flash, like many others, are listening to the liberal lies that it was all Bush’s fault – just like everything else is. And they believe them and tell us that everything else is a lie.

      And if I was Bush, I’d read these blogs every time I needed a good laugh.

      • Bob

        Fema should have been there a week before it hit. Everybody knew it was coming. Fema has the authority to force people to evacuate.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Bob,
          not if they are not invited in first by the governor!!

  • EMA Mark

    Lordy, I hate being in the situation where I feel I have to respond, but this is my field of expertise, and I have done extensive studies on Hurricane Katrina as well as being a strike team leader for 4 teams in the response. Let me just say I have and most likely will again testified before congress on similar issues (not related to Katrina) related to disaster, so I am not just the common person when it comes to knowing about disasters and what went right and wrong.

    To say the New Orleans problem was a debacle is an understatement! I have heard every plausible and non-plausible excuse and I have heard every possible way of explaining it, and let me plainly state that there were screw ups on both sides, however the local and state government was by far more to blame than the federal government.

    First, let’s talk about the hurricane. Hurricanes are so unpredictable that at 72 hours, they give roughly a 100 mile range of where it will strike. Even so, if a hurricane is falling within 100 miles of a city I am emergency manager of, I am going to make a strong recommendation to the Mayor and City Council to begin evacuation procedures. In all honesty, 72 hours is not sufficient time for a mandatory evacuation the size of New Orleans.

    Now, in regards to Mayor Nagin, first he appointed and hired idiots who did not take emergency management seriously, or he chose to ignore their advice. My guess is the later. An emergency manager worth a salt would have had shelters pre-negotiated outside of what could be considered the hot zone and had alternate transportation arranged for those without transportation. Every evacuation plan I have ever written has the use of school buses, city transportation buses and hiring of local tour buses to effectuate an evacuation. Additionally, all cities are told that if they face a disaster, they are on their own for 72 hours. They should stockpile enough food and water to assist their citizens for a minimum of 72 hours. It was VERY obvious that this major piece of emergency management was not followed as well. Because of inaction on the emergency management’s part and/or Mayor Nagin, people died.

    Secondly, the Levy Commission was not doing their job, and they provided insufficient data because they were not doing their job properly, they were to busy sucking the government teat by being elected to commissioner and not truly investigating or taking care of the levies. This once again was part of the disaster caused by local incompetency and part of what caused the devastation.

    Thirdly, it should be realized that FEMA cannot just come in whenever they want and provide services. In fact, it is illegal for them to do that. There must be a request to the state from the local government which states that they have a disaster that is beyond their capabilities for them to handle it locally. The state then must decide if they can handle it, or if they need to request assistance. If they do need assistance, they must advise the federal government that the disaster is beyond the states ability to handle. A federal disaster then must be declared and then FEMA assistance is sent. Governor Blanco, even after several attempted visits by FEMA (and other) personnel did not sign and send the request for assistance for over 24 hours. She kept screaming to send help, made the fed look incompetent in the media, all while being the holdup. While just an opinion, my guess is that this was a political ploy. Hit the federal government with coming in when not invited, or hit them with inaction, … a catch 22 for the fed.

    Now, on the federal side, there was a real problem there too. President Bush put a man in charge of FEMA that had no business being there, even many extreme Right Republican’s agree that this was in fact a mistake on President Bush’s part. Brown with his lack of knowledge about disaster response, ticked off many of his best advisors in the preceding months, and some of the best minds in emergency management left FEMA. Had Brown had more experience in emergency management, he would have pre-deployed more supplies and manpower to make an initial sweep that was more effective.

    Unfortunately, because of the waiting of Governor Blanco, things deteriorated quickly, and soon law enforcement had to be deployed to apartment buildings, and criminals were often killed or arrested so good people could be saved. By the same token, the delay and inaction on the part of the local and state government saw hospitals and nursing home deaths from flooding.

    The vast majority of the blame falls on the local and state government, although there is a small amount of blame that can fall on the federal government. Once deployed, the fed acted swiftly, even if the majority did not arrive on scene for 72 hours after a disaster declaration (imagine that!). Hopefully this will help many of you see it in an unbiased way and viewed through the glasses of an emergency manager and his perspective.

    • libertytrain

      Thank you for your excellent post – I still cannot to this day understand why the President was blamed for this when it was so obvious that the Mayor and Governor were acting like grade school children.

      • Angel Wannabe

        liberytrain, when Obama took office, one of the first goals of the progressives, according to the manifesto, was to destroy the name of Bush!__ With that mindset in place, Whatever Bush did, and the Libs do now, constantly blaming bush, will always look like Bushs fault, and sadly most Obama sheep will swallow it!

        • libertytrain

          you are right

        • 45caliber

          Angel:
          And you can bet, after Oblama is out of office, if someone mentions that Oblama screwed up somewhere those same people will STILL be insisting it was Bush’s fault.

          • Angel Wannabe

            ABSOLUTELY, 45!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            45, don’t you know that hurricane heading up the east coast is Bushes fault????

          • Claire

            At the risk of sounding “noble” I voted for both of the Bushs’. I can’t blame them for everything when all the others had a hand in it too.

          • Wild Bill

            There was late breaking news tonight.Mr Obama was informed that Michelle was pregnent,and before he could think,he blurted out “it is bush’s Fault,er-what was that again?”

            Wild Bill
            Alaska

    • 45caliber

      Thanks for your comments. I know that one of the local electrical people sent (from just south of Houston) commented after he came back that they were close to NO on the first day – but FEMA insisted that they had to go to Atlanta for a FEMA familiarization before they could enter the area to work. It took an extra day, each way, to go on to Atlanta. Then it took a week, waiting in Atlanta, before they recieved that program that authorized them to enter NO.

      I don’t know if you were aware of that – but it should be told to you for future reference.

  • Raggs

    You can’t teach a chicken to come in out of the rain.

    What makes people any different when they depend on the government instead of taking care of themselves?

    • slickporsche

      WHere on the planet earth are those people taking care of themselves???

      • 45caliber

        In Houston and other big cities. And a lot of small ones too. In fact, just about everywhere.

        • Heavenbound

          All throughout the midwest. Illinois, Iowa, Nebraska and Oklahoma with their ice storm. Iowa, Missouri with the floods. Nebraska, Iowa, Kansas with the tornadoes. And many many more. We didn’t call for help. We cleaned up and picked up our neighbors.

          • Claire

            Heavenbound– Agreed–when the tornadoes hit my house and others here where I live, it was all the neighbors that came to the rescue and we all helped each other out. We worked all night long and for several days afterwards. We didn’t get any help from anyone else. We literally took “care” of each other. Neighbors ran to each other’s houses, screaming “are you alright?” We nailed tarps on roofs, boarded up windows and doors, we did it all ourselves. The only people that came around was the utility workers and a couple of cops drove by every now and then. And then, within 2 days, my neighbors put my fencing back up, installed new posts and boards just so I could get my dogs back out. They even helped me walk them until the fence was done. I have been here 32 years and the main reason I stayed here for so long is because of my neighbors. And I am happy I never moved away. My nieghbors are wonderful, they always have been.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Clair, helping each other, is the way its meant to be!

          • libertytrain

            Claire – you’re right, that’s what happens all over this country in many places, particularly neighborhoods and small towns – We do for each other, neighbor to neighbor, without outstretched hands to the government -

  • Angel Wannabe

    SPEAKING OF NEW ORLEANS, ANOTHER OIL RIG EXPLOSION IS BEING REPORTED ON FOX NEWS!!!

    • Angel Wannabe

      can anyone say SUSPICIOUS?

      • 45caliber

        They missed Texas the first time. Time to try again.

  • slickporsche

    New Orleans, is that dark spot on America (melanoma, that is still spreading. Cut out the cancer before it kills all of us.

  • steveo

    If the race card playing Obama wants to see how a city knows how to work together and pull THEMSELVES out of the floods look no further than Nashville, TN. We had the floods just 4 months ago – did Obama come down? Hel* no – has he had any speeches about the success of Nashville vs NO? Once again He** no! Maybe there are not enough black people in Nashville for him to find to blame someone else for. Besides, I have relatives who live on the coast in Mississippi and as they have mentioned numerous times, the media or Obama (Bush did) has not paid ANY attention to Mississippians who lost far more than the folks in the 9th ward lost – but I forgot – these are mainly white people – so the liberal media and race-card playing Dems and blame-it-all-on-Bush-Obama, stay away from that.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      stevo,
      I know Laura Bush did. she was on one of the shows on HGTV. She was handing out supplies, talking to people, even hugging a few of them. Think Michelle would do that??? Laura Bush is a Lady and nobody will ever change my mind of that!

      • Claire

        JoeH–You are correct about Laura Bush. She is a lady in every sense of the word. I have always liked her.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Claire, Laura Bush had class and still does, her and Former President Bush, were welcoming home soldiers with handshakes and hugs, from the war not long ago, the lame stream media didn’t bother to cover it tho.

          • libertytrain

            I saw a beautiful clip of that on Facebook via a soldier who had been there – apparently they do this on a fairly regular basis. She is a classy ex-First Lady.

    • Heavenbound

      Was it on his teleprompter????

  • Bitter Libertarian

    I/We may be wrong, however, this is how I and a few others see this.
    Katrina was not a Natural disaster it was clearly a man made disaster. Neglect, corruption, bloated goverment and lazy citizens are where the blame lies..in other words no one person, agency or party.

    The Govt is to blame for taking responsibility for something it has no bussiness being involved in. But then it is and it does a half ass job! I’ve got 2 words for anyone who believes that new Orleans couldnt have been prevented…THE DUTCH. Nuff said about Dikes.

    The people are responsible because they relied/trusted a corrupt Govt to protect them from. I know you could say they should be able to “Trust” their govt..however…I/we say “take responsibility for your life.”

    Corruption…look at what it cost the tax payers to build the levee’s, pumps, and the evidence & Bills tell on them selves.

    Remember there is MORE money tobe made in FIXING, SAVING & REPAIR/RECCUE because (after all) its an EMERGENCY and We have to SAVE them.

    Remember I am not saying anything that people didnt need or deserve help, just that this is not a Natural Disaster.

    • 45caliber

      It came out (at least locally) that the feds were sending $10 million a year to NO to inspect and maintain the dikes. Nagan would, each year in office, hire a local black company to “Inspect” them. Each time they would write a report stating that the brige across the lake would easily accomodate all cars needed to evacuate the city. In fact, they just copied the previous report and changed the dates. They got the entire $10 mil each time – and donated heavily to Nagan’s reelection fund.

      But the moment the dike broke due to lack of attention and repairs, Nagan and friends insisted it was a federal mistake. “The feds should have been inspecting and maintaining the dikes.”

      Rrrriiiiiiiiiiight!

  • Marilyn

    Yeah for Tennessee. Nashville (and surrounding cities/towns) buildings and landscape were under water and they took care of their own and helped each other. Big Difference in people when disaster strikes.

    • Angel Wannabe

      MARILYN tHEY PROPSPERED AND GARE GETTING THROUGH IT, b/c THEY RELIED ON THEMSELVES AND EACH OTHER, AND DIDN’T SIT AROUND AND WAIT!

  • Au Contraire

    Lo and behold President Obama told a truth. It was man made and it
    proved that the little Devils are still playing HAARP! Then 3 Day Bush flew over the ant farm to check out his handiwork. The sad part is that he and 2 week Cheney got away with disappearing almost 7000 human beings during Katrina which now B.P. gets to repeat and the 21 agenda eugenics in the gulf goes on while this infernal argument continues like a bunch of cats at a ping pong match back and forth back and forth
    which no one seems to care about because blaming each other is so much more interesting. Ta

  • 45caliber

    Five years after Katrina – and many of those “poor” people are presently living in Houston STILL drawing benefits from Katrina. They refuse to go back or even get an apartment here because they “want their own homes rebuilt.” Of course, most of those “homes” they want rebuilt were cheap apartments that were trash to begin with. They simply don’t want to get off all the free Katrina stuff like fully paid hotel rooms with maid service, free meals at the hotel, etc.

    Further, a lot of the ones who came to Houston were gang members. Since they came there is STILL war going on over the different areas of Houston as the NO gangs try to take over areas from local gangs. Over 90% of all the murders in the city is due to this, according to what I’m told by the police. And now that some of NO is opening back up, they have huge numbers of murders there as some of the gang members are returning and trying to defend their territories from other groups trying to take over. I’m not sure what the total is now (the papers no longer report Katrina criminals here) but for awhile nearly half the crime in town was due to them.

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      You forgot to mention that they were all liberal socialists.

  • Jim H.

    People gripe that the Feds were too slow. The FIRST people there were the UNITED STATES COAST GUARD. People were asking where the money for fixing the levies went. 5 years ago I saw a news cast that said it went to build casinos.Instead of trusting these people to do the right thing with the money, the Army Corp of Engineers should have just did the job themselves.

    • 45caliber

      I agree. But when the Corps of Engineers suggested that the state had a fit. They were trusting the state to look out for their people!

      I wonder why they wouldn’t trust the state ….

      • TAKE BACK AMERICA

        Appointing Bush’s buddy “Brownie” to FEMA was only one of MANY Bush errors that helped define his administration and cause the complete breakdown of New Orleans. “Five years later, and still, according to Obama: Bush did it.” I don’t agree, no one says “He did it” EVERYONE says “HE DIDN’T”.

        • Jim H.

          TBA, I guess with a Dem Governor and a Dem Mayor the only hope the people of that city had was to rely on that Republican white guy. Some people think Bush didn’t do enough, but the first people to respond were Fed. the Coast Guard is a federal agency. They were there when the governor was still trying to figure out who to blame. The mayor was and still is useless.If the money the Army Corp of Engineers gave the state(Blanco d) would have been used for the purpose it was for, the levy maintenance, instead of casinos there would had been less damage. Now tax payers paid for it once, and the money wasn’t use for the reason it was issued, and now we get to pay for it AGAIN. THANK YOU Blanco and Nagin. But keep telling us that Bush didn’t do enough. If you tell the lie enough people may start to believe it.

          • THINK ABOUT

            The feds took their long route to give assistance. We had relief and supplies in countries around the world faster than they was in NO. Who was in charge of FEMA, all you want to do is to try to blame the governor and mayor, if Bush is not part of the problem, then the governor and mayor can not be a part of the problem.

        • meteorlady

          Gads – Bush is responsible for all this? How? Since when do people not take care of themselves and each other? I do, my neighbors do and most all my friends do. You point is stupid and assumes that we are all dependent on the government to get us out of messes. We are not. I watched the FEMA spokesperson give all the necessary information about stocking up, protecting your property, and getting out of the way of the storm when it is mandated. So what you are saying is that all people should forget that good information and just sit and wait for the federal government to show up?

  • http://gmail i41

    slickpouch, yes the are people who help and take care of weather problems or man made messes. It is usually in the rural of agrarian backgrounded areas. When blizzards and snow pile deep, you check on you friends and neighbors even if your nearist neighbor is 30 miles away. These pinheads that live on the shores and rivers need to get the hell out of the problem areas. Mountains and hills are non productive and poor soil, live up there, but the pissing and whining of my house got flooded and washed away from a huricane, tough nuggies, year after year the same wet problems, tell someone who gives a damn. When snows melts there is always flooding and you don’t get a hair up your rear and build on low lands.

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      Don’t forget about those fools in California with their earthquakes and those uh people uh that have uh tornadoes and like, well, uh uh uh Hawaii with uh volcanoes and stuff. All those people are stupid and stuff. Uh I’m with you i41 uh lets uh uh oh uh yeah so there you liberal socialists. See, I can be just like you, just not quite as “special”.

    • THINK ABOUT

      Hey, sounds like the pinhead calling others pinheads knows how to shovel water, try it you just might succeed.

  • 45caliber

    One of the main problems with the government is when you are drowning, they are more likely to throw you an anchor than a life raft.

    • Angel Wannabe

      45, thats called decreasing the surplus population!

      • TAKE BACK AMERICA

        Although we rarely agree I can’t help but admire your post. LOL

  • Heavenbound

    “You are thinking not as God does, but as human beings do.”
    Matthew 16:23

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      Matthew 16:23 Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.”

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      I find your “cherry picking” the Bible not only a contemptuous but sacrilegious attempt to justify your personal thoughts or views.

  • meteorlady

    So the mid west, Tennessee and North Dakota have floods a lot and they don’t cry, they just pitch in and get it done. What’s so special about New Orleans? Can’t they take care of themselves, don’t they know how to work together to get their property secured and their families to safety? We took a trip down the gulf coast on our motorcycles in 2009 and talked to people along the way. New Orleans is a mess still and there are police everywhere trying to protect tourists. Along the Louisiana coast nothing is getting done – no fixing up property, just a spattering of businesses were rebuilt or rebuilding. Next came Mississippi – their coast was pretty much put back together, businesses were functioning and tourists were on the beaches. Looked like nothing had happened. The next states were the same – all fixed back up. The floods in Tennessee just recently were devastating and we only got about 10 minutes total on national news – what was up with that?

    • THINK ABOUT

      What is the matter with all the views, the aftermath of Katrina is a tragedy. You can not shovel water, this is a whole total different situation. Perhaps you may not know it was not only the poor in NO but the rich and well placed. Would you want to leave the bedside of your dying spouse? Perhaps you would, some chose not to. This continutes to be a tragedy because of all the wrong facts and comments, I would just hope these comments was posted by non believers. God help all of you.

  • Jim H.

    Think About It, If you had READ the comments, you would know that we were saying that the mayor and governor were inept and it wasn’t ALL Bush’s fault. We weren’t saying that there wasn’t room for improvement on FEMA’s part. We are also saying the people there could have done more to help themselves, instead of whining that someone didn’t come down there and serve out help on a silver platter. We are also saying if it weren’t for the corruption involving the maintenance of the levy’s (not FEMA’s or Bushes fault) the damage would have been less severe. Out of the large population of the city how many were staying to be by the bedside of a dying spouse(less than1%)? You try to THINK ABOUT IT.

  • Mick

    Jim H. says:
    September 3, 2010 at 9:16 am
    Think About It, If you had READ the comments, you would know that we were saying that the mayor and governor were inept and it wasn’t ALL Bush’s fault. We weren’t saying that there wasn’t room for improvement on FEMA’s part. We are also saying the people there could have done more to help themselves, instead of whining that someone didn’t come down there and serve out help on a silver platter. We are also saying if it weren’t for the corruption involving the maintenance of the levy’s (not FEMA’s or Bushes fault) the damage would have been less severe. Out of the large population of the city how many were staying to be by the bedside of a dying spouse(less than1%)? You try to THINK ABOUT IT.
    ************************************************
    Jim ,,,I totally agree with you ! As terrible as Katrina was the warnings were there 5 days prior to the hit, there were 2000 new schools buses ready to be submerged instead of being used to evacuate the people, by their greed the Mayor and the Governor are responsible for many deaths, they figured that the more damage done the more money they could squeeze out of the federal Government.The people blaming Bush for every bad things happening in our country better take a good look at the damage this administration and this congress are inflicting on our Nation ( ON PURPOSE ).

  • Barbara P

    You are WRONG on 5 days notice to evaluate. I know because I leave here. We didn’t know for sure Katrina was headed here until Sat. Aug 27th. She hit on Mon Aug. 29th. I know because we evaluated,on Sun. Aug 28th. This is the first time I ever evaluated for a storm. I thank God we did, because we were going to ride it out just like we always did. Not this time, it scared the hell out of me. You know I am sick and tired of people that have NO CLUE what it was like to lose everything, you worked your entire like for, to judge the people of this area. Yes we have low lifes, scum of the earth, always with their hand out pepole. So does every city in state in this country. Their are also good people here, as their are everywhere. Quit being so judgemental. Katrina was like no other disaster. I live in a Parish (county) to the east of New. Orleans. We had 65,000.00 residents before Katrina, now just 35,000.00 EVERY HOME AND BUSINESS was flooded. My community has made great progress in the last 5 years, but it will NEVER be the same. I have to face that reality everyday, But I will never give up on It. It’S where I live, my family and friends live, and I don’t want I dam thing from any one of you, except the respect that we all deserve as human beings.

    • libertytrain

      You are right and please don’t feel like you are all being bashed. I also know several folks of upper-income and middle-income from the area who did suffer as well but because most had flood insurance, some second home and third homes they could get to, etc.; none of those folks were focused on by the media, and still aren’t. And, having lived on the Gulf Coast of Florida, I understand exactly what you mean about pondering riding out the storm. Almost anyone who has ever lived in a hurricane-prone area would understand. I spent a fortune on plywood, tape,etc during those years.

    • Jim H.

      Barb, People loss everything for different reasons (flood, fire,job loss, theft) it isn’t just you. It looks like 30,000 people in your town learn their lesson about living below sea level. After the next flood you might too.

  • Barbara P

    Jim H fyi I don’t live below sea level, and I will NEVER give up on my home, just because of a hurricane that happened once in my 59 yrs! I could move anywhere and lose everything, that’s not the point! You don”t get it and you never will! All of southeast La. is NOT below sea level, only some areas, but that is not why we flooded this time, it’s because of the mrgo/Mississippi River Gulf Outlet, a short cut to the port of New Orleans, that NOBODY in St. Bernard Parish wanted.It was put in to help New Orleans, not St. Bernard. Belive me there is a lot you have no clue about!

    • Jim H.

      Barb, I don’t live on a flood plain, so who doesn’t have a clue. People build there and wonder why they have problems. How many times did you lean on the stove before you figured out why your hand was burned. If you have been flooded before and expect to again and you stay there, just don’t whine about it. You deserve it.

  • http://YouTube.com/CanadaLarry Lawrence Edward Calcut

    I for one never saw the pictures of the flooded school busses, but would like to see them. Maybe we can use them, the photos, to remind people who and how the ball was droped and see that it never happens again.
    As for Obama’s speach. well he should let one of his girls write the next one, she, the youngest, could do better.

    • libertytrain

      I don’t know if this will work for you – I just Googled it – I don’t think my link will work from Firefox for this site so Google “images of school buses flooded during hurricane Katrina” and you should see plenty -

  • James

    In retrospect, I say building a city below sea level was risky. Realizing that it might flood, then building levees, was an admission of stupidity. Then after Katrina demonstrated that, building new higher levees bordered on insanity. We now breathlessly wait to see if Mother Nature or ‘man’ will win, when the next storm hits. That’s stubborn self-imposed anxiety. I say bulldoze the levees and let nature take its course. If people choose to live dangerously, fine, but other Americans shouldn’t have to pay for their bravado.

  • IDart

    It is my understanding that the city was not built below sea level. The ground it is on is not solid and has been sinking since the city was built, Curently about an inch a year

    • James

      Ya got me! What I’ve found so far is that when New Orleans was founded, in 1718, a portion of that area was below the Mississippi River level and its banks had to be raised, in case the river flooded.

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