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While Chicago Gun Rights Supporters Celebrate, City Tries To Enforce Other Gun Restrictions

July 15, 2010 by  

While Chicago gun rights supporters celebrate, city tries to enforce other gun restrictionsThe Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA) held a rally last week to celebrate the recent United States Supreme Court decision in McDonald v Chicago that struck down a long-standing city gun ban. However, as those advocates cheered, city officials issued an ordinance designed to impose restrictions on gun ownership.

The celebratory event, which took place July 9 at the Thompson Center, featured ISRA executive director Richard Pearson, one of the plaintiffs, Otis McDonald, as well as local radio personalities and several local grassroots activists.

However, it happened in the shadow of an ordinance that aims, among other things, to restrict residents from carrying weapons outside their homes, mandate participation in training programs and prohibit the sale of firearms inside city limits, according to the Chicago Tribune.

“When the wrong people have access to guns, whether they’re gang bangers and drug dealers or abusive parents or sons or daughters, needless violence is more likely to happen, whether it’s on our streets or in our homes,” said Chicago Mayor Richard Daley.

In response to the ordinance, gun supporters already filed two lawsuits that experts say could lead to a new round of legal challenges to cities’ rights to regulate gun ownership, the news provider further reported.ADNFCR-1961-ID-19885892-ADNFCR

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  • GyroTyro

    Chicag politics has shown for the past 75-100 years that it does not give a damn what the constitution says or what the public wants they wiil do what they damn well please. A number of years ago Daley literally in the middle of the night, had bulldozers destroy the runways of a Federal airport andleft planes stranded on the ground that had to be disassembled to be removed. They could not even be flown off the ripped up runways. To date nothing has been done to those violent lawbreakers in the city government that destroyed this airport. Meggs Field. The same place many of you knew from “Flight Simulator”.

    • http://1972lenny@live.com larry m.

      daily, is just a political hack, like the traitor (in the w.h.) who doesn’t give a crap, for chiago, citizens or anyone elese, (except) himself!!! i am sure the mayor has a grip of security men and women, who is ARMED-TO-THE-TEETH), to protect his sorry ***!!!! when the good mayor tells his people to leave thier arm, at home, THEN I WILL!!!!

      • Jsck Kinch(1uncle)

        We will need guns for many years after the federal government stops paying the least educated to have babies on welfare and the invasion from Mexico is stopped.

  • hopalong

    Can’t somebody charge the group in chicago, with a crime. That is the perfect example of goverment out of control. Throw the bums out. Ship them to devils island.

    • Mad Chuck

      That is what Chicago has been for decades Devils Paradise Island

    • James

      Good question, Mayor Daley is obviously attempting to deprive some State citizens of their unalienable right to bear arms. The Illinois Constitution states that the right to bear arms “shall not be infringed,” but it does not impose any penalty for disobeying that, nor does it define what constitutes infringement. Illinois needs a law which criminalizes any hindrance to arms ownership and lawful use. A lawsuit could charge Mayor Daley with violating his oath to uphold and defend the Illinois Constitution, then let the state court decide whether what he’s done has “infringed” on the right.

  • James

    What the Illinois Constitution (Art. I, Sec. 22) says is: “Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” That’s the constitution that Mayor Daley took an oath to uphold and defend. He should be reminded of that.

    • Eddie Gianola

      It would be “nice” to remind Mayor Daley of the 2nd Amendment but he couldn’t care less. He continues to stave gun ownership under the pretense that it prevents “violence” in Chicago. There is more lawlessness and violent crime in Chicago that one can shake a stick at.
      The pompous Mayor only wants public disarmament for one reason,so no one will attempt to shoot him for his tyranny. Law abiding citizens don’t assassinate their elected,they don’t need to,they just vote ‘em out. Here in Las Vegas we have our fair share of crime and shootouts but it’s rather isolated to mostly certain parts of the town. Mayor Goodman makes no attempt to disarm and so the citizenry has the great equalizer,we’re pretty well armed. Goodman is pretty well liked for not infringing on people’s freedoms while Daley is despised. On that note why do Chicagoans keep voting this idiot in? Wanna bet it’s Chicago political thuggery showing up at the polls to intimidate people into voting Daley or get cement shoes!! You’ll never read about that in Obamaland!

      • Vicki

        Who counts the votes in Daily’s city?

        • blamesomeoneelse

          How did Chicago get another Daley as mayor? What kind of voting machines do they have? Vote for daley and vote against anyone running against Daley? Is he the dictator in charge! kinda like Iran, Daley wins by landslide and everyone wonders who voted for him.

        • Claire

          Probably Daley himself along with his gang of thugs. No doubt he has plenty of people on his payroll.

        • helen

          ~~~Vicki, Vicki, Vicki… I’ve read many of your posts… most are to the point; and, for the most part, I find myself in agreement. However, until now, I never realized what a fine sense of humor you possess!! Kid, if comedy television/radio ever returns, you’re set for life!

          • vicki

            *blush* I do sometimes try for a bit of humor. Takes the edge off :)

    • Vicki

      “Subject only to the police power..”

      There you go. A loophole in the Illinois Constitution. Daily is only exercising his police power.

      • James

        Vicki, “police power” refers to city or state policemen, Mayor Daley isn’t a policeman, he has no power to personally enforce state law. Every State has laws which prohibit convicted felons and the insane from possessing arms.

        • vicki

          No one ever said that Daley personally forbade your possession. He merely makes use of police power by passing a law. The loophole remains untouched and really really big.

          • Cameron

            Most police chiefs serve at the pleasure & will of the mayor & council. Does that help answer the question of the mayor’s role in “law enforcement”?

        • http://?? Joe H.

          James,
          in a lot of cities the mayor is also considered the city safety officer and as such is considered a member of the police dept. this would give him police power. Let me say, I am against any infringement of the right to own or carry. Daily is a perfect ASS and he deserves to be impeached, recalled, given a vote of no confidence, what ever. Just don’t put too much hope in it being along those lines!

        • CW

          James, every citizen has the right to enforce the law. It is called the power of “citizens arrest”. If you witness a crime you have every right to apprehend the offender!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            CW,
            Don’t depend on that. There was a guy that held some illegals at gun point till the police came and HE was arrested and charged while the illegals were allowed to go! He had a permit for his gun and was legal on that point but the court ruled that he had violated the civil rights of the illegals!! Can you believe this CRAP????

  • Norman

    If anyone needs guns it’s Illinois. To protect themselves from the Illinois government.Corruption at it’s worst.

    • Cameron

      That’s one of the primary reasons the Second Amendment was crafted in the first place, & one of the primary reasons why Liberal politicians are so eager to destroy it. If we don’t have the means to remove corrupt politicians by force when they refuse to vacate the premises, then politicians, such as Mayor Daly et. al., will be “elected for life”, like Hugo Chavez & Fidel, er Raul Castro.

  • Merl Webster

    Gun banning means that YOU are the one without one, while the others can rob or kill you.

    Many years ago where states required their people to own a gun and trained to use them………….crime dropped by a very large percentile!…in many oplaces to ZERO!

    Thw new world order wants to disarm us for a valid reason: The military don’t want us shooting back as we are being collected for the killing fields…..because THEY are the good guys???

    I am now 75 years of age and would never have thought we’d turn into a communist government. What I would really like to see is the rights to own land mines!

    • http://1972lenny@live.com larry m.

      mel, you are exactly right. the good people lay down thier arms, and the thugs will also??? what is murder to a murder??? in california, arnold(benidict) has been letting prisoners out on early release. at any time, you call an officer, it will take 20 minutes to arrive. what can a thug do in 20 minutes, with a gun??? waite for the police??? make sure his weapon is regestered???

  • http://msn Joe Melton

    If the FBI had any balls and believe and support the laws of our country they would go into Chicago and arrest all them. Any true AMERICAN knows it agaist the law to say we can not have firearms. But is the Federal goverment realy true American any more?

    • George

      re:”Any true AMERICAN knows it against the law to say we can not have firearms. But is the Federal government really true American any more?”

      No… it’s ran by a “wanna be” communist dictator..

    • James

      Joe M. the FBI isn’t a police force it’s a Federal Bureau of Investigation. The federal government has no police power within the States. If the FBI determines that a federal law has been violated, within a state, the U.S. Attorney General’s office makes the arrest.

  • Steve

    AMERICA: AT THE CROSSROADS

    In times such as these, we need only to look at world history. The ancient civilizations of Persia and Greece come to mind. One might consider the history of the British or Roman Empires; Napoleonic France or Spain; also the dynasties of the Chinese and Japanese Emperors, along with the Egyptian Pharos, or the Mayans and Aztecs. All of these republics, empires and dynasties have fallen upon the dust heap of history. Do these once great societies have any meaning in our present day? Oh yes! Big time!

    The study of these civilizations was the basis and foundation for our Constitutional Republic. Madison, Jefferson, Hamilton, Adams and all our founding fathers studied how these civilizations emerged, evolved and eventually failed. Our founders answered these rises and collapses of past civilizations with the Great American Experiment; The Constitution of the United States of America; our map for continuing success.

    Our grand document is based on the creation, evolvement and failure of every civilization in history. It was conceived through the wisdom of all the grand thinkers in world history. (Thinkers and philosophers who knew that their history would be important to some future civilization and they were intelligent enough to write it down or carve it in stone) Our Constitution is a document written to preserve individual liberty and to organize a union of separate states, into a Federal Union; The United States of America.

    Why do we now fail our Constitution? Why don’t we teach more of it in public and private schools? Why do politicians and judges say it’s outdated? The reality is that we are at the crossroads between the success or failure of our Constitutional Republic. This Great Document needs to be honored and cherished dearly.

    Our Congress; the Senate and House of Representatives, is now failing us by passing legislation that they do not read before they vote on it’s passage. Our President is failing our country by signing this unread legislation into law. We might call this a failure of their Oath of Office. Or we might call it a failure of our national identity. Either way, we can not continue to exist as a nation under these failures in government.

    Ancient Rome is a prime example. Senators of the Roman Republic sat in their Coliseum seats, along with the Roman Emperors. They watched as slaves fought gladiators and cheered for blood. They watched as Christians were eaten by lions while the minions screamed for more blood. Those Senators allowed the decline of the Roman Republic by their lack of concern, accession and decadence. Eventually, their appeasements to the Caesars contributed to the decline of the Republic and the Empire. All was lost as hoards of barbarians over-ran a militarily-over-extended, over-taxed, Roman Empire.

    That barbarism was unmatched until the 20th century, when Marxist/Socialist/Communism overtook Russia and Eastern Europe, culminating in the deaths of 50 million human beings. All of them murdered and starved by a mentally ill, psychotic-paranoid, Joseph Stalin; along with his secret police.

    Adolph Hitler murdered 6 million Jews. Joseph Stalin murdered 50 million of his own Soviet people. The German people were compliant with Hitler and the Soviets with Stalin. They followed those leaders to their graves. The Roman Senators were compliant with the Caesars. Rome fell, as all great civilizations did in time. None of those civilizations had a living Constitution: a map for success throughout the ages. Our nation has one and it’s high time our Congress and our President start abiding by it.

    The failure to follow our Founding Fathers’ map has lead America down the wrong road; to the crossroads we find ourselves looking upon. A “fundamental change in America”, we do not need. What we do need, is to return to a “foundation based on our Constitution”. We should command the respect due to us and their Oath of Office, from all our elected officials in city, county, state and federal government. Only that respect to their Constitutional Oaths and to the People, will save this country from the dust heap of history. We, as a free Nation, still have the right to demand that of our elected representatives. This is the duty and the responsibility of every citizen in a Constitutional Republic. Demand it! Vote for it! Pass it on to everyone!!

    If you are an American Patriot, then please, remember this on November 2, 2010. VOTE !

    God’s Speed America!

    • Amy Emerson

      I concurr. You wrote your message clearly and truthfully. Thanks!

    • Cameron

      Steve, our Constitution is not a “living” document. Neither is it “dead”. Liberals have described it as a “living” document so that they can change its meanings from what our Founding Fathers SAID into whatever the current popular meaning of “is” is. The Constitution MUST be interpreted using the meanings and definitions of words in use at the time it was written, not whatever is popular now, else the Constitution means nothing.

  • BrotherPatriot

    The right to own guns is an irreversable liberty for Americans. Any person or group in a government position who tried to take that right away from Americans should be removed from office. It shouldn’t even come up as an option.

    When a nation is armed there is surprisingly little shootings. There also is a great deal more politness as well.

    Go figure.

    Vote out the encumbants in Nov, 2010. Vote for non related…CFR, UN, Rothschild, Skull & Bones, Mason, Illuminati, Bilderberg Virus type organisations.

    Here is our chance to do it peacefully.

  • Fred

    I was a resident in Chicago from 1943 till 1999. This mayor young Daley is pathetic. He demands all citizens without political clout to be disarmed, defenseless,and oh yah he put up camera’s throughout the city to film the violence happening to the unprotected tax paying citizen’s. Any fool knows that if you need the police they are only minutes away. Unfortunately people are killed in seconds. If people believe guns don’t save lives put a sign in your front window stating no guns in this house safe fro you to rob and kill my family. Mayor Daley only stays in Chicago part of the time, he spends most of his time at his home in Michigan. Of course he has a squad car guarding his home in Chicago 24/7/7. Did I mention his armed body guards for him and his family. I guess the safety of the tax payers in Chicago are not important to him. Glad I moved to Nevada where I can carry a gun in the open on my hip if I so chose. Yes there are a few restricted places you cannot carry like schools, court houses etc., but I can live with that. In closing I must say young Daley got in because of the great job his father did, but his father never tried to ban guns in Chicago either.

  • Titan

    My idea of gun control would work perfectly.
    For all legal, mentally capable and non-felonious citizens once they reach the age of 18 they are required by law to complete a coarse in gun safety and the proper use of a firearm. After graduating from the coarse they will be issued: by the government, either a 9MM hand gun
    (preferably a Glock)or a Smith and Wesson .45 to carry for their own personal protection.
    If everybody is “carrying” then the criminal will not have an advantage over the citizens and the criminals will be less apt to perpetrate a crime upon the populace. Check out the Swiss!!!! It works well for their society. If someone had been carrying at VT or Columbine think how many young peoples lives might have been saved. The perpetrates were ultimately killed just a little bit too late for the victims.

    • independant thinker

      While I agree in principle with your post there are, in my opinion, a couple of corrections that need to be made.

      1. Start the safty training as early as first grade.

      2. There should not be the restrictions on caliber or make of
      pistol. Some would be better served by a 38 spl. or 357 mag.
      revolver and a few could only handle a 32 or 380.

    • Cameron

      Once upon a time every eligible male got “free”, government provided firearms training. It was called “mandatory military service”.

  • http://1972lenny@live.com larry m.

    JOIN THE NRA!! LOCK AND LOAD!!! if you don’t protect yourself, the government won’t!!!!!!!!!

  • http://GOGGLE vaksal

    we are totally been abandoned by the washington boys and girls running the show,sad times ahead.

  • http://gmail i41

    Any time I read about any requirements or restrictions on gun ownership on non felons or crimminal. You had better wake up, erousion of freedoms start as small chipping away.Kids have parents who should be the teachers and decide at what is the proper age. My grandchildren are shooting .22 cut down rifles at age 4. Their parents teach the saftey and proper way to handle firearms. At six they get to shoot pistols, usually .22 or a .38.! I never beleive the NRA’s Congressional polls, democratts always lie and still beleive in limited gun ownership and certain types of ownership. The democrat party controls their votes, because they have spine.

  • http://RhymeZine Beverly Williams

    To ‘Steve’, I want to say that was the most articulate and truth-filled comment about the state of our nation I’ve read in awhile. Thank you for your insightfulness, and having the courage to speak the truth. How can I get in touch with you?

  • Gray Ryder

    Again, Mayor Daley is showing his total and complete stupidity. Does he not know of the Federal and State laws currently in place as to the purchasing of firearms in Illinois ? His original city wide ban, on handguns, did not work before Mc Donald V. Chicago. Therefore, what makes him and his brown nose cronies think, that their fight against the Chicago citizen’s Constitutional rights are going to succeed now ? Why does his elected cronies have the right to be armed on the streets of Chicago and the citizens are not permitted to step out on their own property with a firearm in personal defense of their families and property ???????????

    What makes the lives of the Chicago politicians more valuable than that of it’s citizens ??????????? When seconds count the police are minutes away. I will make Daley a wager. If a resident of Chicago calls for the police and then a pizza delivery. I wager that the pizza will be delivered before the police arrive. Also, I wonder if Daley would take an evening strole, unannounced, on any of the streets of Chicago without his 24/7 “armed” tax payer protection ? If the citizens of Chicago voted to stop supporting the 24/7 city police protection for Daley. I wonder just how long it would take him to make arragements to be armed and/or hire an “armed” private protection agency ?????????????

    The best thing that could ever happen for the residents of Chicago is vote Daley and his cronies out of office. Do you citizens not see, that Daley is for himself and those cornies, that kiss his boots ? It appears, that the fault in Chicago is shared equally with the residents as well as Emperor Daley. Gray Ryder

    • Cameron

      Senator Diane Feinstein has a permit to carry a S&W .38 Chiefs Special in Washington DC, & has had it for years. The late not-so-great Kennedy’s personal bodyguards carried fully-automatic concealed weapons in the Capitol Building. Rosie O’Donald’s personal armed bodyguards escorted her adopted children to school, BUT you & I aren’t considered “good enough” to exercise OUR Constitutional right to protect ourselves? Liberals keep getting elected with votes “bought” via welfare promises, & they ensure that the welfare crowd keeps growing so that they will have a sure source of election votes. I just wish the welfare crowd would wake up & smell the heifer dust being fed to them constantly by Libreals.

  • Gregg Pellegrino

    Excellent essay Steve… I fully concur and agree!!

  • http://aol nancy says

    I agree Our Congress of United States of American is failing the American People, Who pay there salaries,
    They forgot, they enjoy the pay, good healthcare, they travel all over, but when it comes do Defending
    the American People, and United States of America, They forgot there Job. Gun rights, law abiding citizens, over 18, have a right to buy a gun. I don’t want the GOVERNMENT tell me what gun we can have
    or can’t. STATES have laws, Federal laws But Bills passed lately are Unconstitutional.

    GOD BLESS AMERICAN, Pray for out Congress that they will wake up, read the bill, protect our country.

  • Jim

    It seems to me that we have all forgotten one very important about our constitution and that it is the supreme law of the land.

    That means that any law that is passed on any level of government from city to federal is null and void if it violates the constitution.

    This a convenience which is disregarded when it comes to making laws and being upheld by the judicial system.

    Why do you think a politician or court member will not answer an unscripted question?

  • HANGMEN

    Hangman says, get rid of these so-called progressive Marxist in this next election, and we have a chance to fix this mess!

  • David Lakatos

    WE well remenber all these Politicians that are tratiors to are american way of life.There day will come.

  • Gary Emch

    The people need to kick that fat butt of Daley’s out of
    action. He has proven himself to be against the majority and
    only implementing what he feels is best. This man is way out in
    left field and should be left there alone and powerless.

  • Liberty 4 All

    Maybe the answer to many of our problems would be to just build a 50 foot high wall around Chicago and allow the illegals to take up residence inside that walled city. It would be OK with me if Richard Daley would be the king or whatever title he would like. Isn’t he really old? Seems like he has ruled that city for a hundred years.
    It seems every story we hear about Chicago is negative and depressive.
    All reasonable people must move to a better way of life and get out of Chicago ASAP.
    I wonder if Richard Daley plays the fiddle. It would be fitting when Chicago starts to burn.

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