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When Spoiled-Rotten Children Grow Up

March 2, 2012 by  

When Spoiled-Rotten Children Grow Up

Riot police had to be called to an Orlando mall on Feb. 23. Why? Because an unruly crowd of would-be shoppers couldn’t wait to get their hands on the new Foamposite One Galaxy by Nike.

In case you’ve never heard of it (I hadn’t either), this is a special-edition basketball shoe that Nike introduced just days before the NBA All-Star Game. The House of Hoops by Foot Locker at Florida Mall had ordered a bunch of the shoes and announced that they would be sold (at $220 a pair) on a first-come, first-served basis at midnight.

Hundreds of people showed up long before the sale was to begin. Police were called to maintain some semblance of order. But well before the sale began, several hundred people rushed the door.

Law enforcement officers in riot gear pushed back the crowd. The store decided not to open that night at all. By Friday morning, Foot Locker announced that it was canceling the All-Star weekend shoe release at six other malls because of “safety concerns.”

So a near-riot broke out because some spoiled brats couldn’t wait to get their hands on a $220 pair of tennis shoes. Isn’t that ridiculous?

Frankly, we shouldn’t be surprised. This is just one more consequence of the entitlement philosophy our children have been taught. It’s been going for several generations.

Let me begin the litany of who’s to blame with these kids’ teachers. What sort of messages have they been sending their young wards? How much of our history have they been teaching them? What kind of character have they been building?

Nationally, teachers’ unions collect hundreds of millions of dollars every year from mandatory dues. They spend a ton of it lobbying for laws they want passed. Or, as they’ve proven in dozens of States, battling legislation they oppose. They are an almost perfect example of the “I want mine, and I want it now” philosophy — no matter the cost to the overburdened taxpayers who must foot the bills.

The teachers’ unions defend a status quo that produces 1 million high-school dropouts a year and a graduation rate of less than 50 percent for black and Hispanic students. What sort of education do the kids who do graduate have? How much of this country’s history have they learned? You don’t want to ask. Heck, half of them can’t write a literate sentence or give the correct change for a $20 bill.

But let’s not let the parents off the hook. How many of them are delighted to let the schools take all responsibility for training and teaching their young? How many try to give their kids everything they want, from the latest cell phone and video game to $150 jeans and $200 tennis shoes?

In fact, how many of those same parents bought more house than they could afford, then decided that somebody else had to pay for their mistake? Five of our largest banks have been pressured into creating a $26 billion kitty to help bail them out. Of course, this won’t begin to paper over the problems. So you can expect a lot more hands to be out, demanding that someone come to their rescue.

And let’s not forget about one of the most feared and powerful voting blocs in this country: our senior citizens. Any politician with the temerity to try to change some of the entitlement programs that are bankrupting this country is sure to face some of the most vicious and dishonest advertising campaigns this country has ever seen. Remember the Democrats’ response to Paul Ryan’s efforts to reform Medicare? Their “throw grandma off the cliff” TV ad was a classic of the type.

The demagogues on the left learned long ago that if they can portray an opponent as wanting to “eliminate Social Security” or “slash Medicare,” they are almost certain of victory. So what if they are creating obligations this country can’t afford to keep? They want political power now — no matter the obligations that will be passed down to our children and grandchildren.

The “Age of Entitlement” isn’t limited to a bunch of spoiled teenagers threatening to riot if they can’t get the brand-new basketball shoes they want. You’ll find plenty of members in every age group in this country.

How much of a stake do these people have in preserving and protecting the system, when they pay almost nothing into it? Nearly half of the adults in America don’t pay a penny in income taxes. What do they care how much your taxes have to go up to provide them with the goodies they are certain they deserve?

To quote an old phrase, anyone who promises to rob Peter to pay Paul can always count on the vote of Paul. And my friends, there are an awful lot of Pauls and Paulines in this country now.

And there are a lot of people willing to promise them almost anything in exchange for their votes.

We’ll find out in November who will win the next round in this ongoing struggle.

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

–Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • s c

    Wow. If Nike gets away with charging over $200 for a pair of tennis shoes, maybe they should charge more and see how far they can push people’s stupidity. In my world, if you can get people to act like lemmings to make a purchase, you’ve got them by the short-and-curlies.
    In a similar matter, a woman in the Washington area [in law school] wants ‘someone else’ to pay for her contraceptive devices. Apparently, she can’t afford them and she wants a Mary Poppins solution. Yes, the two cases are similar.
    I’m usually suspicious of lawyers. If my lawyer was that duh, I’d have to ask her if an active sex life makes for a better lawyer or if she’s part of America’s entitlement herd.
    I refuse to believe that sex in law school is a part of the state-approved curriculum or has anything to do with a functional law education.
    As for the Nike crowd, I’ll bet that somewhere in New York people can find sidewalk entrepreneurs who sell the same thing for $100 or less. No Nikes for me, and no space cadet, wannabe lawyer who thinks sex and law school are two sides of the same educational coin. I wonder if she’s a ‘Republican,’ an Independent or a Progressive.

    • Eric Bischoff

      SC did you ever consider that maybe she just wants equal rights?

      • Carlee Wright

        Gee Eric, how do you equate free birth control with equal rights? Back in the day, I had to PAY for my own, was working and couldn’t afford to go to law school! I highly resent having my tax dollars or increased insurance premiums for some woman’s birth control! If she can go to law school, she can pay for her own pills. If not, she should use self control or face the consequences.

      • mark hammer

        hey eric, u b%^hole. condums equates to equal rights? she wants to screw around, wants free birth control and wants someone else to foot the bill? your kidding?

        i want you to pay for my toliet paper, how about that dumb@#$? I want smoke dope, like you and I want you to pay for it under “equal rights”.

        this country is doomed because of the complete stupidity of this generation.

      • Flo

        Gosh Eric, maybe we should also be required to buy her and her date dinner, drinks and a movie so that she can get laid. Heavy on the drinks because no guy wants her for her mind.

      • Indy Grandma

        Did you consider that if she wants to use birth control she can pay for her own just as my generation did? We didn’t expect the government to take care of us from cradle to grave.

      • Vigilant

        Equal rights? Eric, how do you ever expect to be taken seriously on this forum when you have no clue to the definition of “rights?” File your comment under “gaffe.”

      • philip beck

        Eric,,What the previous five people who replied to your nanny state mentality said. , especially the fifth one.

      • Tom W.

        Equal rights to do what Eric?! If she wants to engage in the number one distraction from her studies at a time in her life when she should be concentrating on her education, why should the tax payer foot the bill?!! Anything that is not life threatening should not be included in entitlement medicine!!! If you want to engage in sex at a time in your life when your education should be your ONLY priority, then you pay for it!!!
        I don’t think that the entertainment industry recieves enough blame and parents recieve too much! All the teen entertainment gloriies the thug mentality and the Jersy Shore lifestyle! How can you blame parents (I FULLY understand that there are some BAD ones both as parents and examples) who most of, both have to work to maintain a decent lifestyle?! This attack has been going on a long time and getting both parents out of the house so that they could have the child to themselves was a major victory in their goal of mentally kidnapping our children!!!
        And speakin’ of spoiled brats, in my humble opinion that’s what’s wrong with our country, it’s bein’ run by a bunch of silver spoon fed spoilded rotten brats!!!

      • Robert Smith

        From the article: “This is just one more consequence of the entitlement philosophy our children have been taught. It’s been going for several generations.”

        Or it could be that old entraminourial spirit where they would get it from the store at a low price (relatively) and as an early buyer they will be able to offload it to someone willing to pay MORE.

        That’s capatalism.

        Rob

      • Average Joe

        Rights Eric? Which rights are those?…please point out where in the Constitution you find this “right” to have someone else pay for your moral choices.
        I have a very simple solution for those who think we should furnish their birth control…simply because they think it is a “right”… (exercizing my 1st Amendment right, here)…..
        GO (offensive word removed) YOURSELVES!!!….You can’t get pregnant that way…now can you?

        It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.
        Robert A. Heinlein

      • http://HOTMAIL Trainman

        Eric I was just wondering… are you one of those morons from OWS?? You know… those boobs that want the people that work and pay taxes to carry their load? Or are you just plain stupid?

      • stopspending4

        Equal rights? for who? Certainly not for guys who have to pay if they want to “buy” a condom, not for women past childbearing age, not for those of us that will be paying for “free” contraceptives for this law student who will presumably graduate and make 6 figures.

      • Old Henry

        Eric:

        What in sam hell has forcing me to pay for her sex have to do with equal rights? Do I also have to pay for her Vasaline? How about the meal and movie before she gets laid? Sounds like she chose the right profession(s) – whore and lawyer…

        How about she just hold an asprin between her knees?

      • S.C. Murf

        Eric, time to make that popping sound!!!

        up the hill
        airborne

      • Tom W.

        Damn Eric, I think you touched off something there!

      • JAS

        Eric, is she going to school for sex or to get a law degree? Given her numbers, these girls are on their backs more than studying!.

        Do smell what the wh*re is cookin’?

      • Eric Bischoff

        Last time I looked, if we work and there are benefits, we all contribute for healthcare and I am sure we could all make a long list of things we don’t like but that’s what happens in a democratic society.

        So she can’t have contraception because of your antiquated religious beliefs but it’s ok for some people to have their viagra paid for or some to get fake tits or plastic surgery or for a lot of you to get expensive unnecessary tests and surgery or for the cancer industry to have a not working monopoly! And it’s OK for many of you to not eat properly, smoke, drink lots of sugary beverages and get diabetes, heart disease and cancer and we all have to pay for your sorry state.

        Hypocrites!

      • jimster

        What a fool she is paying for birth control she can go to planned parenthood and get FREE condoms.

      • Sirian

        Very well said Carlee, very well said indeed!!

      • eddie47d

        I knew what you meant Eric in your first comment but you didn’t word it very well as you usually do. You lost that round but made up for it in your second comment.

      • catfish

        Equal right? You sound just like An Al Sharpton kind of guy. Every time he opens his mouth, it spells stupid. I don’t owe you a damn thing. Birth control is not health care. It is entertainment. If this lawyer is uning my tax dollar for an education, it is time for that crap to stop too.

      • The Frog Prince

        Eric- Now looking at what you wrote clued me into the fact that maybe you are firmly entrenched in entitlements yourself. Equal rights don’t equate to other people paying for something that you desire to have. If you want something then go out and buy it yourself and stop expecting the federal government to be your Nanny.

      • Lawrence

        Equal rights is just an excuse to steal from people who work hard and earn it.

      • Rich

        Eric. Maybe your “bucket list” of things to do before you die is read the constitution.

        For one thing we are NOT a democracy we are a Republic and no they are not the same thing.

        Since when did having sex become a “right”? Having sex is a privilege my friend and if the slut wants to have sex she can pay for her own protection much like I pay for my own protection in case I get in a car wreck, home fire etc. It is absolutely no wonder this country is going down the tubes. It had been infiltrated by brainwashed illiterates like you. Turn off the TV and get a real education!

      • DonnieB

        She wants to be MORE equal.! Why should I or anyone else pay for her sexploits? Just another liberal wanting someone else to pay for what they want.

        Don’t be surprised to see this would be lawyer to be a politician in a few years promising to take money away from a taxpayer in exchange for a vote.

      • Munnster

        She can afford a MINIMUM of $45K per year to go to Georgetown, but she can’t afford her contraceptives? Really? A buck a condom is too much money for her? Give me a break!

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        There’s a reason why he’s sometimes referred to as “Eric the Red”. Shame on most of us all for not understanding Eric the Red’s modern progressive mind…guess I’m old fashioned, growing up and being taught that you have to work hard to get ahead, show some personal responsibility and realize life ain’t a free ride.

        Thanks mom and dad…if I haven’t said it enough I apologize…Thank You!

      • Eric Bischoff

        Are you people obtuse?

        Employer looks to hire & they offer salary and benefits
        Worker takes the job and works and wants to use benefits
        Employer says oh we won’t cover birth control (only viagra)
        Legally they cannot pick and choose based on religious grounds
        worker decides that although I will ostracize myself I will stand up for my rights.
        worker has to sue for her rights

        If you ask me church has a choice they can opt out and not offer benefits and see how they can compete in the marketplace. Or they can follow the law and not discriminate.

        I also believe that churches should stay out of politics which they haven’t been doing or face losing their tax exempt status.

        Is that too complicated for you?

        Catfish you sound like a racist moron. I’ll listen to Al Sharpton over you any day.

        FrogPrince I pay $40K per year in taxes. Everything I own but my house is paid for. Another ASSumption.

        Lawrence Equal Rights is what all Americans deserve but don’t have yet. Get it Mr Bigot.

        Rich I know it’s complicated for you but why is it OK for Viagra to be covered for impotent males but birth control is not?

        Munnster Benefits are part of the compensation

        JeffH you are just another scaredy-cat afraid of things he doesn’t understand. Then again maybe you are a fascist.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Eric the Red, doesn’t matter to me what you may think but I do fully understand and I do fully understand why I refer to you “Eric the Red”.

      • Eugene Ciccarelli

        Eric, Eric, Eric … check it out. There’s nothing in our Constitution that says an employer or any other institution is required to provide healthcare insurance at all. It seems that younger generations just take it for granted. They believe they’re entitled to it. This third year law student looked pretty well kept to me. I’m willing to bet anyone that this young woman spends much more on lipstick, eye liner, facial make-up, painted fingernails, painted toenails, haircuts, shampoo, conditioner, lotions, powder and perfume than the contraceptives she wants us to pay for. If you want an education that brings you the big bucks you’ll need to make some sacrifices. From there it’s a matter of priorities.

      • Vicki

        Eric Bischoff writes

        SC did you ever consider that maybe she just wants equal rights?

        She MIGHT have the right to contraceptives but she does NOT have the right to force us to provide them. Her right to have a thing does not include the power to make slaves of us to get her that thing.

      • Vicki

        Eric Bischoff says:

        Last time I looked, if we work and there are benefits, we all contribute for healthcare and I am sure we could all make a long list of things we don’t like but that’s what happens in a democratic society.

        Fortunately for you we do not live in a “democratic” society. If we did I can easily find a majority willing to take all of your stuff for our pet causes.

        So she can’t have contraception because of your antiquated religious beliefs

        We may object to her having contraception because of our religious beliefs but if she has the right to avoid fertilization (I think that she does) she is welcome to have YOU pay for it.

        but it’s ok for some people to have their viagra paid for….

        I do not see where we are asking you to pay for anyones viagra but your own. You could ask. Someone might be willing to.

        (Eric then wanders off into an inane discussion about insurance or somesuch.)

      • Vicki

        Eric Bischoff says:

        Are you people obtuse?

        Silly ad hominem attack.

        Employer looks to hire & they offer salary and benefits
        Worker takes the job and works and wants to use benefits
        Employer says oh we won’t cover birth control (only viagra)
        Legally they cannot pick and choose based on religious grounds
        worker decides that although I will ostracize myself I will stand up for my rights.
        worker has to sue for her rights

        You missed a fine detail.
        -Employer looks to hire and offers salary and benefits
        -Employer LISTS the salary and benefits
        -Worker CHOOSES to take the job. Are you claiming the worker is too obtuse to read?
        Legally the employer CAN pick and choose benefits including NONE.
        Worker is still free to exercise her rights to work elsewhere.

        If you ask me church has a choice they can opt out and not offer benefits and see how they can compete in the marketplace. Or they can follow the law and not discriminate.

        I also believe that churches should stay out of politics which they haven’t been doing or face losing their tax exempt status.

        you are welcome to your beliefs.

        Is that too complicated for you?

        silly ad hominem attack. Eric does that. Its a progressive thing.

        Catfish you sound like a racist moron. I’ll listen to Al Sharpton over you any day.

        silly ad hominem attack complete with race card. Eric does that. Its a liberal thing.

        Lawrence Equal Rights is what all Americans deserve but don’t have yet. Get it Mr Bigot.

        Proof by bald assertion and ad hominem attack. Its an Eric thing though it is not confined to just Eric.

        Rich I know it’s complicated for you

        Silly ad hominem attack. Eric does that a lot.

        but why is it OK for Viagra to be covered for impotent males but birth control is not?

        Cause the employer chooses to set up the benefits that way. The girl wants birth control paid for by others she can get a job with a company that DOES provide birth control or she can get YOU to pay for it. I’m sure you will have no trouble with that.

        JeffH you are just another scaredy-cat afraid of things he doesn’t understand. Then again maybe you are a fascist.

        A double ad hominem attack. Eric raises the bar. Or not since JeffH’s comments do not sound like they come from someone interested in a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

      • Tom W.

        Now that’s what I call a fire-storm!!! Hey Eric you didn’t make up sh!t the second comment, so eddie, STFU!!!

      • restorefreedom

        I must be really stupid because I cannot begin to correlate how free birth control and equal rights relate at any level. Maybe her boyfriend should pay or possibly abstinence certainly it’s not my responsibility or anyone else’s. Bet she’s going to be a great attorney probably get an education and be too entitled to actually work at a job.

      • DaveH

        Here it is in a nutshell, Folks, from the mouth of the Progressive Eric — “And it’s OK for many of you to not eat properly, smoke, drink lots of sugary beverages and get diabetes, heart disease and cancer and we all have to pay for your sorry state”.
        Exactly. Thank you, Eric the Red, for being honest even if it wasn’t intentional.
        I warned people about this 30+ years ago when the Government was getting increasingly involved in our healthcare. Most scoffed. But then what could I expect from people who had been thoroughly dumbed-down by the Propaganda Schools?
        First the Progressive Leaders take our money away to give Free Healthcare to people who didn’t earn the money, then the Progressives use that as an excuse to take away our Freedom of lifestyle choices under the guise that they will “have to pay for your sorry state”.
        We’ve got to keep Eric’s ignorant self around so he can reveal more of the Progressives’ tactics to the intelligent readers of the Personal Liberty site.

      • Opal the Gem

        I think this by Indipendent Thinker says it very well.

        independant thinker says:
        March 3, 2012 at 11:48 am
        When we were in college my wife and I paid for our birth control ourselves. When we graduated and money was tight because we were just getting started we paid for it. When I was out of work for a time we found a way to pay for it. The whole time she was of child bearing age WE paid for our birth control. Our insurance didn’t pay for it, the government didn’t pay for it, some non profit agency didn’t pay for it WE paid for it. If we could manage to pay our own way concerning birth control even when money was very tight then this gal can find a way to pay for hers.

      • TheOtherWhiteMeat

        I should be able to get free condoms/vasectom/Viagra, if you want to talk equal rights. And who always gets the short end after a divorce? The guy. When was the last time a woman held the door open for me?

      • PA RIGGS

        Gee eric she already has FREEDOM, when the federal government is allowed to dole out freedoms for some by taking from others you have slavery. Wake up and start using your head for something other than a hat rack.

      • don

        Eric, you have got to be a democrat obama drone, so stupid that you do not mind obama destroying the education (your head full of mush), energy, health, food production, business, military and financial systems just so we are no better off than his kenya.

    • Beverly Teboe

      My husband and I were discussing this last night on our way home from dinner and shopping. My husband said $3000 buys a lot of condoms. And then he commented that the women at this “law school” probably didn’t have time to study because they were having sex at least three times a day. He made me laugh. Where do these people get off thinking that somebody owes them something? Where are the men wanting their fare share of contraception? Why is it only a woman problem. The last I knew it took two to tango. If you don’t want children then don’t have sex. Or if you only want sex then be responsible for your own actions.

      • Carol

        Responsibility and accountability are key words everyone should be taught, but our government has taken all responsibility away from people, from DUI’s to getting knocked up. If you’re old enough to drink, drive, and harm someone you should be held accountable and not arrested until or if that happens. If you’re old enough to screw around and become pregnant you should be responsible for your own child and not have taxpayers support the child. If you don’t want children then take your own precautions and don’t rely upon the taxpayer to pay for your ignorance.

        I think there needs to be a law passed called ‘The Responsibility and Accountability Act’ whereas it would also force any public servant to pay out of his own pocket if he harms a citizen and not have taxpayers foot the bill for his/her mistakes. We have enough stupid laws and adding another one stating that taxpayers should be responsible for people’s promiscuity just proves the stupidity of our government. Nobody is entitled to anything except freedom to do as one pleases as long as their choices don’t harm another and they’re willing to pay the consequences if they do. That’s what a free society is all about.

      • Gary

        You are absolutely right Beverly.
        If she is having this much sex maybe she should just cross the line from slut to prostitute and charge enough to pay for her own contreceptives. At the very least she should require her partners, whether few or many, to supply thier own condoms.

      • Tom W.

        You know Beverly, one of the best sermons that I ever heard was given by a female preacher and she preached on the woman caught in the act of adultry. When the Sanhedrin brought the young woman in front of Jesus They swore that she had been caught in the “very act”! Well according to Old Testament law both the partisipants were to be (Deuteronomy 22:22 (KJV) “If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel.”), so where was the man?!! It was a very interesting sermon to say the least!!!

        Galatians 3:28 (KJV)
        “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.”

      • eddie47d

        I see Gary is as Kinky as Limbaugh. Will you be demanding a video copy too?

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        eddie, by any chance, is your name on Megan’s list? Have the fed’s ever confiscated and checked the content of your computer? Are you allowed to live within 1000′ of a school?

        Just wonderin’, that’s all.

      • eddie47d

        You’re such a bonehead Jeffy! Do you sleep with prostitutes? Do you live 1000′ from the red light district? Does the Feds have you on speed dial so they know when to check your computer for weapons and detonators? Hey! Just wondering that’s all!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        The law student may be a “working girl” to pay her way through law school. Back in the 80′s it was considered the “in” thing to be call girls while they were getting their PhDs.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        eddie, again I wouldn’t expect you to “get it”. You’re the one that brings in the thoughts of someone being “kinky”, wearing “purple panties and black dresses”,etc…you’re the one that has the dirty little mind around here…thus my questions to you are relevant as they are raised because of your own twisted and dirty minded comments..i.e. “potty mouth”.

      • Tom W.

        Excellent point Nadzieja! I don’t think eddie liked being called out like that Joe! Excellent right cross!!!

      • eddie47d

        You’re such a hypocritical hoot Jeff. You poke but can’t be poked back. What a douche! Keep it to yourself if you don’t want the feed back. I can take it but can you.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        One more time eddie confirms my point…i.e.”douche”…potty mouth!

      • Tom W.

        Easy Jeff! Ya got ‘em on yhe ropes, now work the body!!!

      • DaveH

        Good comment, Carol. But I want to talk about your statement — “adding another one stating that taxpayers should be responsible for people’s promiscuity just proves the stupidity of our government.”.
        It might prove the stupidity of the people who elect our Government, but the Leaders know exactly what they are doing. They are purposely passing out whatever goodies they can to buy votes and insure their continuing Power. We must get over the mindset that they do these things Ignorantly and Innocently.

      • DaveH

        Read this to understand better what I’m saying:
        http://www.lewrockwell.com/archives/fm/6-93.html

      • Rich

        Rich I know it’s complicated for you but why is it OK for Viagra to be covered for impotent males but birth control is not?

        No Eric It is NOT complicated (God I agree with a Liberal on something, someone please shoot me) .
        If YOU want to take Viagra YOU pay for it, not the taxpayer.
        If YOU want to kill your self on Pharmaceutical drugs that have absolutely NO health healing properties whatsoever You pay for it, not the taxpayer.
        If YOU want a new car YOU pay for it, not the taxpayer.

        You see how simple this can be? BTW I have a mortgage payment due. I’ll be expecting a check from you to cover it. You want socialism I’ll only respect you if you put up or shut up. So thank you for the $650! I’ll be waiting on you to contact me about where to mail the check…

      • eddie47d

        Apparently Tom likes to work on men’s bodies.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        …and leave it to eddie to put some sort of overt perverted thoughts into TomW’s comment…again eddie’s perverted senses prevail over any sense of normality…but…in eddie’s case what else can one expect…

      • Libertytrain

        Jeffh – I agree Eddie is a difficult soul…makes no sense. But tomw makes me want to go wash up after reading. his comments are generally foolish and repulsive – and may be paid by the left to make conservatives look foolish — that’s my take…

    • James Maxw3ll

      What is extremely funny is the “entitlement lawyer” wanting free conterceptives for their
      friends who are lesbians? Why do lesbians need conterceptives int he first place, they
      are a non breeding species. I can understand it helping contorl certail problems with
      the female reproductive organs. I think that if it is an actual medical necessity then the
      insurance companies probalby would cover that. But I can just see it now 20 years down
      the road she would probably be sueing the conterceptive company and the insurance
      company for the problems caused such as blood clots and other health risk. Typical
      socialst lawyer mentality. My client did not have responsibility it was the governments
      because they are supposed to take care of us from cradel to grave. Mindless morons abound with thier stuipditiy.

      • Walt1

        Many women are on oral contraceptives for reasons other than preventing pregnancy–excessive bleeding and dysmenorrhea. So, that could explain the mystery of OC use in lesbians.

      • Karolyn

        Where did you see that about lesbians wanting free contraception?

      • Gary

        Where did anyone mention lesbians?
        Anyway sexual orientation is a moot point.
        Just why in the hell should I have to pay for ANYTHING for anyone else?

      • Tom W.

        Lesbian lawyers?! WTF is the world comin’ to?! Get ya off lickety split!!!

      • restorefreedom

        Right on Gary that’s really the point why should I pay for anybody else?

      • DaveH

        That was funny, Tom, but I think you just violated every rule in Bob’s comment policy.

    • Dntmkmecmoverther

      “I refuse to believe that sex in law school is a part of the state-approved curriculum or has anything to do with a functional law education.”

      Hmmm. Every lawyer I ever met screwed me. So perhaps this IS part of their education…

      • Tom W.

        Excellent point Dntmkmecmoverther! Do you know why sharks don’t eat lawyers?… Professional courtesy!

      • DaveH

        Ditto that, Dntmkme.

      • DaveH

        Once you understand that Government isn’t about the people, rather about themselves, then $300/hr lawyer fees for incompetent legal representation, in a court session where none of the court officials want to really hear your side of the story, becomes much clearer.
        Our founders knew the tendencies of Government Leaders over 200 years ago, and they tried their best to protect us, but they couldn’t protect people from Ignorance.

    • Karolyn

      Those sidewalk entrepeneurs are selling knockoffs that no self-respecting Nike aficianado would dare purchase. Nike only makes a certain number of these premium items to pump up the hype and make them more of a status symbol.

      • John

        Karolyn, are you sure they are knock offs? Or are they over production? Are they still knock offs if the corporations has the shoes made by child labor in Asia but the manufacturer makes 2 million instead the one million ordered? And then sells them on the street or the lowest bidder? Where is the difference? I have seen this happening many a times when i was over in Asia. US corporations have the items made by whoever produces them cheapest and the outfit makes a couple of hundred thousand more or a couple of millions more. They are as real as the original. Yes there are some outfits that make look alike copies made from inferior materials, but that is general the exception not the rule and they can be easy identified. I have seen container loads of so called knock offs arrive in the US that where made by the same corporation that made the original but sold for a quarter of the price. The fault lies with the US manufacturers that in order to make a few pennies more have the products made in Asia and thereby transferring the knowledge, the blue prints and jobs to Asia. The old saying that Japan or China will “”copy”" everything we have is not true anymore, they don’t have to copy anything, we give them the blueprints and say here knock yourself out…

      • Tom W.

        SIC HER JOHN!!! How can you even begin to justify $200+ sneakers?!! Especially when they’re made in some sweat shop over in South East Asia!

      • DaveH

        Sweat shop? Spare me. Have you asked the “sweat shop” workers what they’d prefer — starvation, extreme poverty, or “sweat shop” work?
        I expect better from you Tom:
        http://mises.org/daily/2384

    • http://deleted Walt1

      When most young people go off to college, they have some sort of social life and engage in sexual relations. That is just part of being young and exploring life. It is much more cost-effective and less morally challenging to provide oral contraceptives for female students than have to deal with abortions that these students might consider.

      • stopspending4

        Got no problem with college students having sex whenever they want I just do not believe we, the other insurance holders, will pay for the contraceptives. This is not about sex, not about women’s health care but about the government picking birth control as the one drug that should be provided for free to everyone. Why not pay a diabetic’s insulin without co-pay? We already use tax $$ to fund planned parenthood so these poor underprivileged law students will not have to pay an extra $9/month on top of the $60,000 they are already paying for law school. As the brilliant law student pointed out, this extra $9 is causing great stress for her and other law students. Maybe she should just go to PP and concentrate more on law school studies.

      • Gary

        Where does it stop? 1st it is providing the pill then it is something else then something else. It is this kind of crap that started the entitlement mentality to begin with.

      • Tom W.

        A young man told his grandfather that he needed to stop by the pharmacy because he had a date that night. “Tor what?” The old man replyed. “Some condoms.”. “For what?”, “STD’s, what did y’all wear for protection back in the day Pops?”, “A wedding ring!!!”
        What’s wrong is that we need to get back to the biblical prinsiple that to play you must pay! No marriage, no sex!!! Sex is a gift from God to be enjoyed by men and women joined together in Holy Matrimony, I believe that the abuse of this prinsiple is probably responsible in one way or another for 99% of this world’s woes!!!

    • Old Gringo

      s.c., I’m just curious, what are students now attending College, or Universities, there for; to fornicate or get an education?

      • Tom W.

        It’s a party OG!!!

      • DaveH

        The Leaders prefer that they fornicate. They get more votes that way.

    • Old Henry

      Maybe she should try dating BOB. (Battery Operated Boyfriend)

      • Mike Austin

        Of all the comments, yours makes the most sense. and the funniest!

      • Sirian

        Wait a sec, Old Henry. What if BOB batteries catch on fire like those of the Volt? Then we’d have the EPA jumping into the ruckus to determine who gets hot sex and those that don’t. :)

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Careful Old Henry, she may spend too much time with BOBs and we may be required to pay for medications that heal chafing.

      • Tom W.

        Dirty Old Henry!

    • http://gravatar.com/goodridehd goodridehd

      After viewing the Comment Policy, this would make think that White kids were not involved in the riot.This is not the first time these third world degenerates have riot or even kill for a pair of basketball shoes.Of course this would be called profilling, and if profilling should solve a problem, it is considered unlawful.Only in America do these low lifes get by with these crimes. I’m sure this comment will be consided inappropriate

      • Tom W.

        goodridehd. it’s not a black or white thing, it;s a THUG thing and they come in all colors! I truly believe that they’ve been brainwashed into killing each other!!!

    • Eric Bischoff

      Yes I am in the mood to take on some morons today and maybe make them think a little or as much as they realistically can!

      • Tom W.

        Hey Bischoffski, who the HELL are YOU calling a moron?!! My sincere apologies to any Slavic folks I may have offended!!!

      • DaveH

        So then, today you’re self-flagellating, Eric?

    • Wyatt

      The Nike Phenom has been going on since the late 70′s . Their running shoes bloomed into basketball , baseball and football footwear and now into other sports and products . Personally I can say I have never worn Nike footwear and I don’t purchase Any NIKE product now on principal .

      Have a wide foot I discovered early on that Nikes were not a good choice ( as advised by my fitter at the local sporting goods store ) and so I purchased a competing brand more compatible with my foot type and shape. When Nike began producing baseball gloves I looked at them and found them to be made , usually from lower quality leathers and not only poorly made but over priced like their footwear . Now they produce cycling footwear as well as Golf Clubs and balls . I don’t purchase any Nike products due to personal dislike of their business practices . The attempt to take over the markets they deal in and force other companies to either fold or seek new costly techno gimmicks to compete . And also their styling is horrendous with technicolor two toned shoes in all sports looking as if they are catering to the hip hop , Rapper crowd . And some of their sponsored stars are questionable , and the spending to sign such people drives the price up enormously .

      Nope , no Nike for me . Perhaps the OWS mob will be willing to pay the prices ( and it is quite evident that they do ) and sport their over priced footwear as they protest corperate America . What a bunch of Hypocrites !

      • Tom W.

        The Nike phenom didn’t really start until Michael Jordan came on the scene and all of a sudden a pair of sneakers {That’s what they are!} went from roughly $30 to around $80! Although arguably the best player to ever lace them up, the marketing genius’ had found their nich, “Be like Mike!” That was bad, but now it’s plain stupid!!! “Gotta lick the bottom of dese babys!”
        I remember it started in jr. high school, if you were wearing anything else other than Chuck Taylor All-Stars, you were wearing the dreaded BUDDIES!!! A SERIOUS fasion FAUX PAS of the worse order! And back then a pair of Chuck’s were running about $20 a pair and a GOOD pair of buddies were about $12, which one’s ya think mom wanted to grt ya?!! PEER PRESURE! If you were wearing buddies, they would RIDE you so hard that once you got home you’d lock yourself in your room and pull the blankets up over your head!!!

    • Lonemusketeer

      If she can’t afford contraceptives in order to protect herself from pregnancy, then the only choice is abstinence and that’s free. I for one do not want to pay for people “sexcapades.” That is a matter of personal responsibility.

      • Tom W.

        Hey Lonemusketeer, you ain’t alone on that one!!!

    • chow

      As for the woman in DC if she’s attractive I’m more than willing to pay for her contraceptive if she agrees to have it with me from time to time. What’s the difference who pays for her contraception for wanting to have sex? Prostitution is the same. All she wants is the taxpayer to pay her for having sex and not her sexual partner.

  • Eric Bischoff

    Wow Chip you go from some rotten apples in our spoiled consumer society to blaming the teachers union, the left and entitlement!

    I would say that our WHOLE system is based on massive propaganda and a lot of lies to get us to consume massive quantities of junk, now made in China, that we don’t really need and that doesn’t make us happy or add to our well being, if anything it just makes us and the planet sicker and sicker.

    Maybe we’ve made some bad choices in the last few decades.

    “Look at how America compares in key areas to the 20 advanced democracies in the OECD including the UK, Germany, France, Japan, Canada, the Nordic Countries and others and see how we rank LAST in almost all categories.

    • the highest poverty rate, both generally and for children;
    • the greatest inequality of incomes;
    • the lowest social mobility;
    • the lowest score on the UN’s index of “material well-being of children”;
    • the worst score on the UN’s Gender Inequality Index;
    • the highest expenditure on health care as a percentage of GDP, yet all this money accompanied by the highest infant mortality rate, the highest prevalence of mental health problems, the highest obesity rate, the highest percentage of people going without health care due to cost, the highest consumption of antidepressants per capita, and the shortest life expectancy at birth;
    • the next-to-lowest score for student performance in math and middling performance in science and reading;
    • the highest homicide rate;
    • the largest prison population in absolute terms and per capita;
    • the highest carbon dioxide emissions and the highest water consumption per capita;
    • the lowest score on Yale’s Environmental Performance Index (except for Belgium) and the largest ecological footprint per capita (except for Denmark);
    • the lowest spending on international development and humanitarian assistance as a percentage of national income (except for Japan and Italy);
    • the highest military spending both in total and as a percentage of GDP; and
    • the largest international arms sales.”

    See the full article http://bit.ly/xVkm1h

    When you keep running west looking for the sun to rise and it never does, maybe it’s time to HUMBLY but quickly change course.

    • GDC

      What kind of drugs are you on? Or may that is the problem you need to be put on anti-psychotic meds.

    • Roger

      The countries you mentioned do not have the same mix of ethnic populations as the US and are individually much smaller in population and more manageable. I will grant you that public education (not private education) is a mess here which is direct result of the Great Society welfare state for single parents. As for upward mobility, what other country where a college drop out can become one of the wealthiest?

      • Eric Bischoff

        Oh Roger yes you can cherry pick anything you want to support your denial. On the issue of upward mobility you might have missed the point, we are LAST amongst these countries. Get it! Upward Mobility, from rags to riches. The very thing that has Americans salivating and voting against their best interest. It’s easy to get suckers to believe “That could be me the Billionaire” so why would I want to vote for higher taxes! Dream on! Buy more lottery tickets!

      • DaveH

        What is inhibiting that “Upward Mobility”, Eric?
        And what do you propose to remedy the situation?

      • Vicki

        IF eric is actually in America one wonders why since he finds so much wrong with it and finds all those better places. I wonder if he is cherry picking?

      • Tom W.

        You Eric are what Archie Bunker lovingly referred to as a “Meathead”!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grtLSCyNrdo

    • Steven

      Wow,I am kinda new to this site,but damn,some of the respondents like you Eric,have that same gimme attitude as the kid’s wanting the shoe’s.Anyone that gets their stats from the United Nations and actually believes everything they say,has got to be socialist at best.I wonder what your job is Eric,but I would bet it is a government job,or you are on the entitlement tit.Where is your pride as a man.

      • Eric Bischoff

        Steven you read my post and then made some huge ASSumptions as to who I am. We seem to have reading and comprehension shortcomings here. Instead of whimpering in denial, face the facts with courage and ask yourselves HONESTLY. Where did we go wrong? How do we fix this?

      • DaveH

        You’re a Progressive, Eric.
        Progressives love to Force their agenda down everybody else’s throat with Big Government at the same time as they decry the wealth of others which was acquired through voluntary transactions by pleasing their consumers.

      • Vigilant

        Eric asks “where did we go wrong?” A valid question.

        Here’s a valid answer: we started to go wrong when the people discovered they could vote themselves benefits by electing socialist-minded politicians who would pimp and pander to get those benefits to the people, insuring their re-election.

        We started to go wrong when we allowed the government to bypass the Constitution in order to centralize its power, illegally rewrite law to suit a socialist agenda and engage in crony corporatism..

        We started to go wrong when we allowed the dysfunctional communist teachers and professors to scrub and revise US history to suit their nefarious ends.

        We started to go wrong when we ratified the 17th Amendment to the Constitution.

        We started to go wrong when our values as a people deteriorated to the point where we glorify mediocrity, elect American Idols instead of experienced and decent politicians to high office, turn our backs on a recognition of the Christian influence in our founding, and believe that robbong Peter to pay Paul is “fairness.”

        We started to go wrong when let the lawyers and politicians wrongly interpret the Constitution to arrive at the egregiously wrong point of view that equal outcomes, not equal opportunity is the goal of a free peoples through individual liberties

        We started to go wrong when we failed to teach our youth the impeccably correct lesson of history that Capitalism and freedom have made more people prosperous and happy than any socialist economic system, ever.

        And we started to go wrong the moment we allowed the Howard Zinn communists like yourself to assume a cloak of legitimacy which you do not have.

        I could go on, but there’s not enough space here to catalog the despicable things your ilk have done, and would continue to do to destroy this great nation. .

      • eddie47d

        Making assumptions that Eric is a communist is weak at best. No different than others making lame comments that he has to be on the government teat. That’s only frustrations talking not facts. I do agree we are one spoiled country in our frivolous demands.

      • Vigilant

        eddie, Eric outed himself a long time ago when he started quoting passages from Howard Zinn’s “A People’s History of the United States.” Zinn was a communist, pure and simple and undeniably so. His revisionist “history” was written through the myopic and jaundiced eyes of a Capitalism-hating anti-American.

        So I neither assume anything when I take Eric to task for it, nor do I ignore his history of comments that clearly show him to be what he is.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Thank you Vigilant…thus the nickname “Eric the Red”.

      • DaveH

        Well done, Vigilant.

      • Tom W.

        Oh eddie. —-!!!

    • http://none Don Larson

      Eric couldn’t have gotten it more right! and, the, “Chipper,” more wrong!

      So, poor Black Kids (searching for status), are spoiled. Don’t think so! Rich America takes everything away from these kids; and, now there are those that want their shoes as well.

      Just another blantant attempt to shift the blame from the real, “gammers,” of the past 35 years. THE SPOILED BABY BOOMERS HAVE LEFT OUR YOUNG PEOPLE WITH THE BLEAKEST OF FUTURES!

      The Nation that the selfish and greedy Boomers inherited from the Greatest Generation looks nothing like the Country they are leaving the Young today. The Boomers have literately spent the financial futures of this, and future generations. A $15.3 Trillion Dollar National Debt borders on, “Financial Rape,” of our Grandchildren! Those in charge of our Social, Economic, and Political Institutions in this Country (and that has been the Boomers for the most part), have FAILED in their Fiduciary Responsiblity to the U.S., and, in the Management of the Nation’s Resources.

      Time to, “Man-Up,” Boomers. You created the problems – - now pay for them! In the event you don’t have a clue how to pay for for your over-indulgences – - just say so, and maybe some of us can help you out.

      And, this from an old white dude with three degrees . . . and, a social, economic, and political analyst; who, was a Republican for over 35 years, until I couldn’t take the it anymore!

      Doktor Don

      • s c

        Comrade D, you personify what’s sp wrong about entitlements hacks and utopian zombies. Lenin and Stalin would be proud of mule muffins like you. Hitler would be proud, too. A utopian who is ‘bi-political’ would have a bright future in old Russia or WWII Germany. Do your parents know what happened to you? Maybe you live in one of Obummer’s 57 states.

      • Mark in LA

        The boomers are responsible for massive immigration – legal and illegal? The boomers are responsible for globalism? The booners are responsible for guest workers?

        These are the policies that have made things tough for young people and they started long before the boomers became a force in politics. These were all policies championed by the business leaders all the way back to Carter and Reagan, hardly boomers.

      • Gary

        Don your three degrees make you an educated idiot.

      • Vigilant

        …and what’s with the “Doktor?”

        Let me guess….Soviet? East German?

      • S.C. Murf

        The Boomers are the second hardest working generation to ever step foot on this planet, second only to the Greatest Generation. Dumb A$$, it’s been the politicians all along, of all ages. You say that your a Dr.? Of what ? Proctology ? Seems to me you really need to make that popping sound, either from your patients or your own.

        up the hill
        airborne

      • Vigilant

        Mark in LA LA Land says, “These are the policies that have made things tough for young people…”

        “TOUGH for young people?” Surely you jest. This is the most indolent, undereducated do-nothing generation ever produced in America.

        If they aren’t running into telephone poles while texting, they are sitting on their kiesters sending naked pictures of themselves to their friends, doing the social networking scene or playing World of Warcraft.

        Don’t get me wrong. There are still a smattering of good kids who understand the value of work and are willing to do it, but they’re a dieing breed, my friend.

        Love to see how they (and you) would haved fared in my day, where a kid with a car was the exception and not the rule, where our fun was the physical exercise and fresh air of playing ball, hiking, running races and bicycling everywhere. We did chores because we were told to by our parents.

        We didn’t have HALF of what today’s kids have, but we had TWICE what they don’t have: values, respect, a work ethic, and an appreciation that life’s not fair but you could overcome it with talent, hard work and education.

        Doubt me? Just look at the average poundage of today’s kid compared to our day. Tough my backside!

      • Vigilant

        Wow! THREE DEGREES! I’m seriously unimpressed.

        It has been my experience in life that (1) anyone who insists on using a title (“doktor”) based on book learning has serious problems with self-confidence, and (2) can’t rely on sufficient logic or intelligence in their assertions and therefore need to push that title, as if that alone gives them an aura of legitimacy.

        I have met but few who are not truly educated idiots. Thank you, Herr Doktor, for further confirming that my inductive reasoning has been correct.

      • Mark in LA

        Vigilent brays about the younger generations. I was there when a kind having a car was a rarity. I also know that there were plenty of jobs for young people, before it became easier to hire an illegal alien. I remember what it was like having to use high school labor. The local McDonalds needed to hire 50 kids to get the weekend and night shifts staffed. Why, because a kid could only work so long and you had long periods when nobody came in between breakfast and lunch and lunch and dinner where you didn’t plan for a full shift. You needed them in case you had to call people in if it was busy. People would call in and not want to come in (big unexpected date) for a variety of reasons. Juggling all these schedukles between your favorite people and the people you didn’t like but needed to do the dirty jobs. This all goes away with an illegal alien.

      • Michael H.

        Excuse Me! Poor black kids(searching for status), REALLY? By buying $200.00 shoes? If that’s what they spend their few poor dollars on, then they’re as stupid as you are.

      • Vigilant

        “Don Larson?” What a joke!

        The Don Larson I knew about pitched the only perfect game in World Series history in 1956. All your pitches are out in left field.

      • Vigilant

        My mistake; he spelled it “Larsen,” but the analogy’s the same.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Vigilant, :) …pitched against the Brooklyn Dodgers and his catcher was Yogi Berra.

      • Vicki

        Don Larson says:

        So, poor Black Kids (searching for status), are spoiled. Don’t think so! Rich America takes everything away from these kids; and, now there are those that want their shoes as well.

        Wow. last I checked those shoes belong to NIKE until the kid BUYS the shoes. Nowhere in the article by Chip did anyone mention stealing the shoes from the legal purchaser.

        The Boomers have literately spent the financial futures of this, and future generations. A $15.3 Trillion Dollar National Debt borders on, “Financial Rape,” of our Grandchildren!

        Maybe it does but in case you hadn’t noticed it was not the baby boomers who racked up MOST of that debt. In fact the baby boomers handed Clinton a surplus.

        Those in charge of our Social, Economic, and Political Institutions in this Country (and that has been the Boomers for the most part), have FAILED in their Fiduciary Responsiblity to the U.S., and, in the Management of the Nation’s Resources.

        Though a lot of those in charge might be of the boomer generation they are of the progressive nature which is not restricted to a single generation.

        Time to, “Man-Up,” Boomers. You created the problems – – now pay for them! In the event you don’t have a clue how to pay for for your over-indulgences – – just say so, and maybe some of us can help you out.

        Oh they paid for their over-indulgences. They don’t need to pay for yours.

        And, this from an old white dude with three degrees . . . and, a social, economic, and political analyst; who, was a Republican for over 35 years, until I couldn’t take the it anymore!

        More evidence that Don is both a racist and a liberal. He played the race card.

      • Vigilant

        JeffH, I actually saw that game on our black & white TV after school that day. The image of Yogi running out to jump up on Don Larsen will remain burned into my memory forever.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Vigilant, that’s pretty awesome. A little early for me…I started getting interested baseball when the Giants moved to SF in ’58.

      • DaveH

        Mark says — “I also know that there were plenty of jobs for young people, before it became easier to hire an illegal alien.”.
        Don’t blame the illegals for our current economic conditions. Our current economic conditions are strictly a result of Too Much Government.
        What you are remembering, Mark, was when Government only devoured 28% of our GDP. Now they devour over 40% of our GDP. When you invite a 500 pound gorilla to your dinner table don’t expect to have plenty of food left over.

    • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

      REALLY? Come on! This all started with not being able to spank and rear your kids properly the way the parent best feels is their resposibilty to do so any longer. Man when I was in school the coaches spanked you with paddles that had holes drilled in them to help the air flow through best when slapping your ASS for stupid s—. We all grew up just fine and had respect for our elders. Now if you raise your hand to YOUR KID, they threaten to sue the parent. My dad would have kicked my ass around the block if I had even thought of such non-sense. His favorite syaing was: “see this size 9 it will feel like a 12 when it’s in your ass”. And he meant ever bit of it, kept the fear of GOD in me too.
      Thank you Dad, I love and miss you very much. You were the only one who actually cared enough about me to keep me in line and beleive me I needed and deserved anything I got. I feel if these kids got raised properly by there parents, not the teachers, but were giving the ability to slap the s— out of them if they get out of line, we would have much better youth becoming young adults who will be running our country very soon. But it is way too late for these kids now, let’s just put them in prison or do most of you feelthe stores need to give them a free copy of Mortal Combat with every pair so they wont get upset. Is this not what we do to the islams who threaten us? Gosh we would not want them to get mad if we dont allow them to knock down a church to build a Mosque. Spoiled little p—— are what we are turning our kids and future polititians into. Gosh I hope big brother does not read this and senf the PC police to my home.

      • Alleyway Al

        Brad I could not have said it any better. The kid have no respect or dicipline. the parents and teacher don’ t have the attention of the kids because they can’t dicipline them when they get out of line.

      • Annie

        Brad – I couldn’t agree with you more, I too believe much of it started when the discipline dwindled.

        I am a firm believer of “Spare the Rod, Spoil the Child” as I grew up with this. I learned respect, honesty and the value of hard work, both in school and and in public.

        There is a difference between discipline with a spanking and a beating and the former never hurt the way I or my brother or sister turned out. And they never stood on my side in school when I was in the wrong, they knew then I wasn’t perfect and they made sure I learned my lesson.

        I thank God my parents cared enough to ensure that I would be ok and I hope I was someone they were proud of.

      • Vigilant

        From a recent e-mail I received:

        People born before 1946 were called The Silent and powerful generation

        People born between 1946 and 1964 are called The Baby Boomers

        People born between 1965 and 1979 are called Generation X

        And people born between 1980 and 2012 are called Generation Y

        Why do we call the last group Generation Y?

        Y should I get a job?
        Y should I leave home and find my own place?
        Y should I get a car when I can borrow yours?
        Y should I clean my room?
        Y should I wash and iron my own clothes?
        Y should I buy any food?

    • Dntmkmecmoverther

      Eric, you are so full of BS that your eyes are brown. I won’t even grace your stupid post with any other response; as it is not worthy.

    • cawun cents

      Does anyone realize why there is such a clamour for these shoes?
      There are several reasons they want them.
      Having to do with a strange quirk of marketing strategy,these shoes are ultra-rare items.
      They are sold at around $200,but can command 10 times that much on the street.
      For the solitary reason of resale profit,folks stand in line for days.
      Some obviously want them for the cred it gives them on the streets.
      Someone is going to die,and have those shoes removed from his/her feet,by someone who doesnt even wear the same size,to support someones habit of having to have what nobody else in the hood has.
      Its the age old demon of keeping up with the Jones’s,or what is known Biblically as coveting.
      For this….in our nation is not a rarity like the shoes.
      There is no listing of how many people die each year because of coveting.
      No statistics on how many died for the pursuit of someone elses happiness.
      The solution is to misdiagnose the conditions,and call for laws that were made millenia ago,to be replaced by pseudo-laws which help no one because the conditions remain.
      Then the folks who get the useless bill drafted get street cred,like the kid with the shoes.
      They have adoring fans who like that somebody is sticking up for them,or at least appearing to,and re-elect them perpetually.
      Meanwhile back on the streets…..someone is plotting murder over a pair of shoes.
      Someone has someone elses mealticket,and they dont care how they get the ticket for themselves.
      Does this sound familiar?
      It should.
      You can bet that if you run this by Bischoff,he wont bat an eye as he gives you statistics.
      He’s too busy citing his book learnin’ skills to see the forrest through the trees.
      And so…tragically I might add,thyis kind of thing goes on.
      Are the teachers in the schools busy teaching that keeping up with the Jones’s isnt necessarily a good idea?
      Or do they thoughtfully leave that up to the rock throwers in the OWS crowd?
      How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?
      Lkie the statistics on coveting,the world may never know.

      -CC.

    • pneale

      Eric
      You can’t believe everything you read on the web, especially when it’s a grossly left wing site like this one. We have all witnessed the blatant bias of the America hating, university infesting, Marx embracing half wits masquerading as intellectuals. Even if history deniers did manage to empty all the bank accounts of the “evil rich”, it wouldn’t scratch the surface of the HUGE entitlement spending of your website’s favorite quack in the white house. Why does he persist with that lie? To enrage the covetous mob of course. When the marxist liars stop taking hot showers, using A/C, charging their iPhones and pay their own way, I’ll listen.

      • DaveH

        This site is left-wing?
        You’re a good example of the dumbing-down that our Propaganda schools have dished out. The Progressives are responsible for both the Welfare State and the Warfare State. Most of the Republican Leaders are Progressives as well as almost all of the Democrat Leaders.
        The Progressive Era started here:
        http://mises.org/daily/1259

    • Floridastorm

      Eric,

      I will grant you that these conditions, in this country, are as you stated. However, tell me something, why is it that millions of people are not rushing to get into these other democracies? Why is it that millions of people “are” rushing to get into the United States including some folks from these other democracies? They all can’t be too concerned about our rate of incarceration, our rate of poverty, our rate of uneducated, etc., etc. There are many things that need addressing in our country. But, in the meantime, most Americans live better and more comfortably than any other country in the world. Even, with all of our problems, we are still the country that everyone wants to come to and the country that everyone looks to for protection.

      • Eric Bischoff

        Florida more ugly american arrogant ASSumptions. Not surprising since 80% of americans don’t have a passport and have no clue of what the rest of the world is like.

      • Vicki

        Eric Bischoff says:

        Florida more ugly american arrogant ASSumptions. Not surprising since 80% of americans don’t have a passport and have no clue of what the rest of the world is like.

        Eric dear YOU brought us the data Floridastorm commented on. YOU pointed out how much better these places supposedly are. The only real question Floridastorm forgot to ask is “where do YOU live Eric?” If not in the US why are we even bothering with your remarks? If you DO live here the question is WHY?

      • Eric Bischoff

        I live here Vicki and I like it and I am not going to shut up . I am going to continue to speak my peace and challenge stupidity, arrogance, ignorance, bigotry, misogyny, racism, lack of empathy and greed where ever it rears it’s ugly head.

      • Vicki

        Eric Bischoff says:

        I live here Vicki and I like it and I am not going to shut up .

        I am not asking you to shutup. I am just curious why you like it here when there are all those other places you claim are better than here.

      • DaveH

        I think neither Vicki nor I want you to shut up, Eric. Quite the contrary. You have become our Poster Boy for the ugliness of Progressive mentality. So please hang around and help us wake people up to the reality of Progressivism.

      • DaveH

        I’ve seen enough of Vicki’s posts to know that she could run circles around your Logic (or lack of). That is, Eric, if you would actually take the time to tell us your agenda instead of spending most of your time with ad hominem attacks.

    • s c

      ‘E’ #2, that’s quite a paradox. Like all other useful idiot utopians, your head has been rammed up your “opinion” for far too long. Your last paragraph is your solution, comrade.
      That is, reject your programming, stop proving Einstein’s maxim [stop doing the same things and expecting to get what you want] AND most of all, ask your masters if you can have your gonads back. You can’t be a trained monkey all your life, comrade. Or can you?

    • DaveH

      Eric’s article cites — “the next-to-lowest score for student performance in math and middling performance in science and reading”.
      Isn’t that odd? In spite of No Child Left behind. In spite of the Department of Education. In spite of the Trillions of dollars we’ve thrown at education for the last several decades. Big Government just doesn’t work does it, Eric?
      http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/education_chart_20.html

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        DaveH, speaking of public education, have you read anything written by John Taylor Gatto?
        A friend sent me an alert to check out his writings. He has written several books and all are available at Amazon or his own website.

        Dumbing Us Down: The Hidden Curriculum of Compulsory Schooling
        The Exhausted School
        A Different Kind of Teacher
        The Underground History Of American Education

        You might find this website interesting also.

        Education: Do We Really Need Schools Or Do We Need To Better Understand What Education Should Really Be?
        http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/2007/09/29/education_do_we_really_need.htm

      • DaveH

        Jeff,
        Thanks for the link.
        I have long considered the Public School system to be a propaganda tool of those who promote Big Government. Here is an interesting article on the origins of Public School in our country:
        http://mises.org/journals/jls/7_1/7_1_3.pdf

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        DaveH, I’ve bookmarked the link and will check it out…thanks.

      • DaveH

        Here’s an interesting quote from Cato’s Letters — “their [Tyrant's] Power is concerned to Stupify and destroy the very faculties of reason and
        thinking.”.
        Imagine that. 300 years ago there were men smart enough to know that if Government was in control of citizen’s educations they would tend to purposely dumb down the students to be good little followers.

    • DaveH

      Eric’s article cites “the highest poverty rate, both generally and for children”.
      For the children? I thought children lived in families?
      At any rate, how is that poverty rate defined? Is it on a PPP basis? Is it based relative to the wealth of a country? Are the household sizes the same? There are so many variables to consider:
      http://mises.org/daily/1347

      Above all, who do we blame for this Poverty? I blame Big Government which diverts financial resources from the Private Sector, where they would have been spent more productively, into the Public Sector where they are mostly wasted. Big Government also throws up myriad roadblocks preventing people from starting their own businesses easily and presenting unnecessary regulatory hoops for them to negotiate after they have finally gotten their businesses going.
      Big Government devours 42% of our GDP. Is it any wonder those people, who would like to work, have trouble finding it?
      Green-eyed people like the Progressive Eric love to blame it all on the Rich, when in fact it is mostly the result of Politicians with financial support from a subclass of the rich (Crony Capitalists) who are getting protection from their Crony Politicians in exchange for campaign contributions or other bribes. So what do Progressives advocate? More Government to enhance the too-corrupt Big Government that we already have.
      So the question is, are people like Eric just terribly ignorant, or are they feeding at the trough and just spreading Propaganda to enhance their positions at the trough?

      • DaveH

        Here is a book that Eric could read to learn some reality (that is, if he can put down his Communist Manifesto long enough to read it):
        http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Ripoff-Business-Government/dp/0471789070/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1330702769&sr=8-1

        There is a kindle version available for less than $10.

      • DaveH

        Here is another that Eric could learn from (if he really wants to learn), and this one’s FREE courtesy of the wonderful Mises Institute:
        http://library.mises.org/books/Murray%20N%20Rothbard/History%20of%20Money%20and%20Banking%20in%20the%20United%20States%20The%20Colonial%20Era%20to%20World%20War%20II.pdf

      • DaveH

        What is the Poverty Rate defined as in the US?
        “the poverty level for 2011 was set at $22,350 (total yearly income) for a family of four”. From en.wikipedia.org.
        Now some various countries’ Median Household Incomes:
        United Kingdom — $39,000
        Canada — $44,000
        Scotland — $34,000
        So the poor families here (and I’m guessing that many of those are receiving generous portions of their incomes from the US taxpayer) are getting over half of the income that a Median family gets in those 3 countries, for doing nothing much of time?
        But let’s look at the Socialist Paradises that Progressives like Eric aspire to — those in which their people are Equal (Equally Poor, that is) using an average family of four:
        Cuba — $12,000
        Zimbabwe — $9,652
        Venezuela — $23,204
        Haiti — $6,456
        North Korea — $5,600
        So our “Poor” families receive 4 times the income of the “Average” families in North Korea, almost twice as much as the “Average” Cuban family (that Socialist Paradise), and nearly the same as the “Average” Venezuelan family. Yet people like Eric bitch about it.

        I think that hammers home the message that Chip was trying to deliver.

      • John

        Dave, so, whats the cost of living in those countries you cite as examples? What does the food, gas, housing cost in comparison to the US? Wanna bet, in the end it is quite close, even though the GDP is lower in those countries, the cost of living is a lot lower also. Quoting one without stating the other is useless, but typical of people who have an agenda and discard everything but what furthers their agenda.

      • Eric Bischoff

        DaveH sometimes I think you have a point but then consistently you remind us of how dumb you really are. Dumb and afraid. And that’s a dangerous combination. It’s sad.

      • DaveH

        And you, Eric, consistently remind us that Progressives have no real arguments, so they must depend on various Adolescent Manipulative Techniques such as name-calling and other personally disparaging remarks.
        Keep it up, Eric. You’re going to be hard pressed to convince any intelligent readers on this board that you have any kind of real knowledge.

    • S.C. Murf

      Yes Eric it is time to change course, maybe if America stops following satan and his evilness and start moving away from the abyss, America would start to turn around. Fornication outside of marriage is a sin and it just adds to all of the other sins this country is guilty of. Jesus said the wages of sin is death and as you just noted Eric, this country is about dead.

      up the hill
      airborne

    • Mark in LA

      Well it certainly didn’t help importing millions of low IQ peasants from the third world in the last 30 years. It’s just like in California, once the shining example of education in the country. Fill up the schools with Mexico’s refuse that their ruling elite is only too happy to heap on us and wonder why the schools do no better than Mexican schools.

    • Gary

      Just because you have written this bunk doesn’t make it fact.

    • Marty

      Your right with your statistics Eric, but you overlooked one sentence you quoted in your statement. “Over the last few decades”. That of coarse comes from the fact that all these countries are broke. And we are pouring in our money into this lovely place called the UN, which you’re getting your statistics from. We are breaking ourselves to support these countries, using our money, to bring their ratings up. If the United States would stop all monies going to these countries right now, you would soon see a balance swift in your statistics. You are right about the healthy eating habits though. We have become a nation of fast food.

      • Eric Bischoff

        Marty we are not pouring money into the OECD countries that are doing BETTER than us. I know it’s hard for DaveH to read these facts as they fly in the face of his beliefs but yet they are just facts.

        Vigilant I know this must be hard for you but try to follow. There is an extreme right a middle and an extreme left. That’s the spectrum. Most of you only know about the extreme right and the just left of center and you actually believe that that is the entire spectrum. Get it so far. You actually believe this because you are too scared to listen and read about the rest and because you’ve been brainwashed to believe that it is all evil don’t even look at it. And because the Main Stream Media owned by corporate america does not want to you to know about the full spectrum and they demonize it whenever anyone tries to talk about any of it.

        It’s your loss as long as you are willing to go along with it.

      • DaveH

        Eric,
        You’re going to need to take your emotionally charged conjecture to a Progressive website where they swallow such bull manure.

      • Vicki

        Eric Bischoff says:

        There is an extreme right a middle and an extreme left. That’s the spectrum.

        Well. No. That is certainly the spectrum rulers would like us to believe is the only spectrum but in politics there is another spectrum that is FAR more important.
        100% government to 0% government.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4r0VUybeXY (~10 min long and well worth watching)

      • DaveH

        And your “facts”, Eric, are just conjecture. They are sweeping generalizations with no explanation as to how the data was collected or what the study parameters were. Most of them are mixing Apples and Oranges — such as this one:
        “the lowest social mobility”. If we have a lack of Social Mobility, it can only be because of Force. Who is allowed Force in this country? Only the Big Government which Progressives like Eric adore. In a Free Society, anybody who wanted to sell their services could do so without the Crony-protecting Licensing Laws and other impediments that are created by Government. In Free Markets the customers decide who to patronize and who to not patronize. Those companies of people who please their customers the best will be the ones who succeed most. There will be no Crony Capitalists buying protection from competition via their Government Cronies. Anybody, who is willing to put in the sweat, long hours, sacrifice, and take the necessary financial and personal risks, can succeed and become Wealthy.
        That Upward Mobility of which you speak is only stifled by Progressive Leaders and their Ignorant Progressive Followers (which one describes you best, Eric?).

      • DaveH

        For those who want to learn what Eric and his Elitist Pig Pals don’t want you to learn:
        http://mises.org/books/capitalism_kelly.pdf

      • Vigilant

        Eric’s revealing assertion comes when he says, “Marty we are not pouring money into the OECD countries that are doing BETTER than us.” Right. The question is, upon what authority in the Constitution are we pouring money into ANY country?

        And why, in any stretch of the imagination, with our own developing fiscal and financial debacle, would we ever think that socialist wealth redistribution to foreign countries could possibly be in our best interests?

  • Dave67

    Really? This is the best example you got?

    How about these?

    Major banks, wall street, home builders feel entitled because of the money they control and want so they lobby congress to relax the banking rules and credit regs to make it easy for people to buy homes they can’t afford… Why? So they can make an extra dollar and do not care about the future of this country. Then after they destry the economy, they get TARP.

    Red states pay less to the Fed Gov than they get back from the Fed Gov in pork.

    How about the son of a US Gov offical using daddy’s connections to get out of the war in Vietnam and gets put into the AL National Guard to protect AL from the Viet-Kong? (A war this son supported) Then he gets out, gets financed by Saudi interests due to daddy’s influence to fail in business not 1, not 2 but 3 times.

    Then, lets talk about how not one of the major bank, wall street heads/execs have gone to jail over wrecking the economy?

    Its starts at the top and works its way down? How about the wealthy and well connected act responsible first? Care about the country?

    Just a thought…

    • GDC

      Waht century are you living in?

      • Steven

        Amen brother.

      • Eric Bischoff

        GDC I see that you are putting a lot of thought into your comments!

      • Dave67

        GDC, this one and I pay attention to what has happened and what is happening. This dumb article doesn’t address the overall issue that hurts this country…This guy focuses on idiots that want a pair of overpriced shoes….But hey, its how capitalism works right? People are willing to pay that nonsense…

        My examples are better at showing what is wrong with this country and how those at the top are guilty as well and do it on a much greater scale.

        You can choose to ignore that reality but it is still the reality.

      • eddie47d

        Chip’s message was clear yet teachers don’t sell shoes and are not responsible for the immediate fad desires of their students. We are a consumer society and businesses make money off of those consumers. Those Corporates make big money off of our spoiled behavior so if you want to blame the shoe peddlers take a look at Wall Street. Take a look at the advertisers who throw these latest products at us 24/7. They sell the gotta have it attitude not teachers. Who flaunts these products to the public? The Elites buy the latest fad and they are in the news everyday and the masses want to emulate whatever they have. Who drives that sleek car or who has the I-Box or I-Phone? The marketeers bring it all to you and have taught us we can’t live without their product. They are the ones who made us spoiled “brainwashed” lemmings.

    • Ted Crawford

      Can it be that you are unaware of “T Great Society” or CRA? I think not you’de just rather ignore it!

      • Dave67

        TED,

        I am familar with CRA and that is PART of the problem as was Reagan’s banking and credit deregulation and subsequent deregulation that followed. Reagan, Clinton and Congress between 1980 and 2006 both played major roles in the housing bubble and its bursting.

        Those are bigger issues… Or do YOU choose to ignore THEM?

      • Vigilant

        It strikes me, Dave67, that you are showing YOUR ignorance here.

        The housing bubble and its attendant contribution to the bust is clearly laid at the feet of the Democrats. I never understand why you guys ignore the fact that the Fannie/Freddy scandal was the result of Congressional committee members pooh-poohing the warnings and the requests ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS by the Bush Administration to rein in the financially irresponsible lending policies of those corrupt organizations.

        Frank, Dodd, Waters, Waxman, et. al., don’t have an (R) after their names, and they were the ones to insist that people who couldn’t possibly pay for their homes be given a mortgage. It’s got to be classified as the first major economic failure in history caused by political correctness.

        And Franklin Raines walked away from it with MILLIONS of taxpayer money after shafting the people. Some justice, huh?

      • Dave67

        Viligant,

        It strikes me that you conveniently ignore the deregulation put forth by the GOP to undermine Glass Stegal and allow regular banks and investment banks to come together under one roof, or the relaxing of credit rules that both parties had their hands in. I know that both parties are to blame whereas you think its all the Dems fault.

        That is ignorance by you.

      • Eric Bischoff

        Vigilant accusing others of ignorance now that’s priceless!

        You have to wear a dunce cap now and go stand in the corner and you will be forced to listen to Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn speeches.

        And before you believe the propaganda before you actually have had to time to hear their great speeches, no they are not not communists but great patriotic highly intelligent americans who have earned their place in the history books. Even though the Conservative Texas school book committee which decides for the whole country will probably take them out like they just took out Thomas Jefferson. Humm Maybe that’s part of the public school education problem and systematic planned dumbing down of society.!

        But I understand maybe you prefer Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. That’s your privilege.

      • Vigilant

        “Chomsky has stated that his “personal visions are fairly traditional anarchist ones, with origins in the Enlightenment and classical liberalism” and he has praised libertarian socialism. Although Chomsky tries to avoid the ambiguity of labels, his political views are often characterized in news accounts as “leftist” or “left-wing,” and he has described himself as an anarcho-syndicalist. He is a member of the Campaign for Peace and Democracy and the Industrial Workers of the World international union.” (Wikipedia).

        This is what Eric calls “patriotic.” If ignorance is bliss, you must he in hog heaven all the time, Eric.

        As for Zinn, no quote is necessary. It’s WELL KNOWN that he was a member of the communist party and his views are very apparent in his biased works..

        “Even though the Conservative Texas school book committee which decides for the whole country will probably take them out like they just took out Thomas Jefferson. Humm Maybe that’s part of the public school education problem and systematic planned dumbing down of society.!”

        Eric, we’ve finally found common ground. I have commented several times on the removal of Jefferson from the list of 18th century revolutionary thinkers by a board more interested in fighting Deism (and pushing Christianity) than in preserving the record of a person more closely aligned with Conservative thinking than they realize. What they did is unconscionale and, yes, it contributes to the dumbing down of our children.

        Very odd that you should cite that board decision. Jefferson’s approach to government and liberties was much more in line with today’s Conservative values than the big government sentiments of the Federalists like Hamilton and yourself. I would have thought you might prefer not to mention the historical demise of such a person as Jefferson, or perhaps to celebrate it.

      • Vigilant

        If anyone actually believes Eric’s doublethink claim that Zinn was a “patriot,” they need only to read http://spectator.org/archives/2010/08/02/the-case-against-howard-zinn

        Only an addled brain could equate communism with American patriotism. This kind of thing might have worked in the Third Reich, as it does today with mediamatters, Huffington Post and moveon.org, but it doesn’t work with the thinking people who patronize this site.

      • Thinking About

        V, you talk of ingnorance and laying the bank failures on the feet of dems. You may have never heard Phil Gramm R-TX proclaim “if you would just deregulate them everything will be just fine”. I might also add Gramm taught economics at Texas A&M was a sponser of the Gramm–Leach–Bliley bill which repealed the Glass-Stegall. True Clinton signed it but the original votes was veto proof. Don’t call someone ingorant on this unless you totally understand all the facts. What should have happened was to have the Gramm-Leach-Bliley bill.

      • Vigilant

        Don’t condescend to me when it comes to ignorance, Thinking (but not intelligently) About Anything.

        I am fully aware of the repeal of Glass-Steagall and the unnecessary excesses it has led to. And I have never advocated it on this site or elsewhere. I would have voted against repeal (as did Ron Paul).

        Attempting to draw a direct line to a 1999 repeal of Glass-Steagall ignores the very proximate cause of the housing bubble and subsequent bank failures. The acceptance of, nay, FORCING the banks to accept, worthless mortgage instruments simply to assuage the self esteem of people who could never afford a mortgage in the first place, was a poltically motivated ploy of the Democrats.

        Had the Congressional Democrats heeded the urgings of the Republicans on numerous occasions, those toxic assets never would have been created. If you choose not to talk about or recognize that, then you are simply a true believer in the socialist model and fail to see a fact head on when it’s presented to you.

        No sir, it was not Glass-Steagall, it was Cloward-Piven that done ‘em in.

      • Vigilant
    • http://none petersenonmain

      Dave67
      There is only one reason that the bankers and the Wall stret guyd are not in jail and that is that Dodd, Frank, Rangel, Carter and most Dems. that made millions from the investments would have had to go too.

    • DaveH

      They couldn’t accomplish that, Dave67, without the coercive aid of Big Government.
      Please read this book and join the Light Side:
      http://mises.org/store/How-Capitalism-Saved-America-P260.aspx

      • Dave67

        We have been over this… Your propaganda is just that… propaganda that does not fly in the real world. Collusion happens…. Mergers happen…. with or without Gov involvement. Gov should act as a layer against abuse but in this country, Corp interests control our Gov.

        That is reality and since you cannot point to ANY country that has existed under your propaganda so you are living in fantasyland as all 100% “free” market proponents live in.

      • DaveH

        Anybody who reads the book, Dave, can see that you are an Ignoramus.

      • DaveH

        Anybody who reads this report can see clearly that there is an inverse relationship between the size of Government and the size of the economy.
        As Governments Grow, Economies Slow:
        http://www.freetheworld.com/2011/reports/world/EFW2011_complete.pdf

        No, Dave67, the Propagandists are those who appeal to the emotions with no real facts to back them up. You, Dave67, are a Propagandist.

      • eddie47d

        Free Markets are an illusion although a worthy goal no such country exists. There are Capitalist countries that do fairly well like Luxembourg and Socialist countries like Norway that do fairly well. Then there are propagandists who sell their Utopias as fact when no such thing exists.

      • Jeep

        Dave67, you are right that the “Gov should act as a layer against abuse”. However, when there are billions of dollars at stake all bets are off. Just ask the myriad of companies, politicians and individuals that have taken their piece of the govt pie and laughed at the taxpayer all the way to the bank. The white house continues to “invest” in green energy, offers billions to wall street and then moans about the tax writeoffs to big oil. Heck, even GM is issuing $500 mil in bonuses while ignoring the billions they owe to the taxpayer as we speak. And, where is the outrage from our officials? NOWHERE. It’s business as usual. You can blame Regan, Bush or anyone you want. The bottom line is, if you are looking for another big govt solution, you are wrong. It will never work. In the meantime, our politicians will continue the shell game of blame and you will buy in to it.

      • DaveH

        And, Dave67, when you refer to Thomas DiLorenzo’s book as Propaganda, you are squarely crossing over into the territory of other useless Liberals, like Eddie, who will call statements Propaganda without having any real knowledge of what those statements consist of.
        For instance, Dave67, calling “How Capitalism Saved America” Propaganda, implies that you have read the book and are capable of refuting things in the book. So, how about it? Give us a statement in the book that you can refute.

      • Mark in LA

        DaveH you still don’t get it do you? Economics is NOT science. Therefore what somebody whites in his book is not proof of anything. It is his argument about what he thinks happened or is happening and why. So you telling everybody that some book has all the economic truths in the universe is total crap.

        If I say the cause of the Great Depression was that businesses destroyed the labor movement and unions. This led to falling wages and the flow of money slowed down and stopped circulating as it was getting more and more concentrated. This eventually led to a collapse in asset prices and the collapse of the economy in general as companies tried to meet the decreased demand with layoffs further exasperating the problem. How do you “disprove” this. You can’t do it by pointing to a book with an alternate theory. You can’t do it by assembling a “blue chip panel” of economists who all harrumph that it is wrong because it goes against “all we know about economics”. It can never be disproven as long as all the basic facts about what happened are correct. Were businesses doing all they could to destroy the labor movement, did wages decrease in real terms, did money stop flowing and get more concentrated, did falling prices lead to layoffs and even less demand?

        If economics was a science, there wouldn’t be all these so-called “schools” of economic theory. If something isn’t a science, it aint worth shinola as usefulness in making public policy is concerned. Thats been our problem for the last 30 years, listening to economists when public policy is made.

      • Dave67

        Jeep,

        You and others are wrong that I want a “big Gov” solution. I want Gov to do its job, I want businesses to do its job, and I want unions to be able to do its job.

        Gov does have a role in investing in new technologies to help make them cheaper, thus more competitive in the marketplace. The companies that have failed with Gov loans is well known but the flip side is that thanks to Gov investment, the cost of solor technology has gone down significantly. Companies start business, and maintain due to profit. New technologies like the internet, the space race and the interstate highway system are not money making projects in and of themselves… they all were started by the Gov and then businesses were able to piggyback off that investment and were able to make money off the investment. I do not see that as an evil.

        I am constantly fascinated and I am eager to understand at what point does someone enter the political process to make a difference and then becomes the enemy of many on this board.

      • Dave67

        Dave H,

        I call what you spew propaganda because what you say is the “ideal” the idea of “free” market capitalism does not and has never existed.

        We do not have George H Bush’s “New world order” where we have one world, one form of gov and one currency. It doesn’t exist, it can’t exist. So as I said before, you nonsense is fantasyland dreamworld stuff.

        Let me know when you decide to live in the real world.

      • Jeep

        Dave67, while there is denying that NASA and the military have both been great boons to industry and have both been inovative catalysts, it is interesting to note that the current administration has defunded NASA and is gutting the military. Of the billions invested into “green” technologies, I would challenge anyone to find any tangible benefit to the average American. Of course, Solyndra and a number of other executives made out quite well. Look alternative fuels as well. All these “technologies” are foundering. The point is that big govt has no real stake in investing our tax dollars into private buisnesses for any reason, no matter how alturistic.

      • Dave67

        Jeep,

        Thanks to the investments that Obama has made in clean energy, the price of solar energy has come down significantly to 2.94 cents per KWH. That allows for solor to compete against the path of least resistance… Oil, and Coal.

        Do I approve of politics and favortism in who gets loans? No…

        I thought liberatrians and the right would love NASA to be defunded…Less “big” gov… Let the private sector take over right? I wish they would make up their minds. :-) I agree that NASA should stil be a vibrantly funded program because of all the innovation that has come from it. But in this day and age, I guess useless wars in Iraq and TARP bailouts are more important than staying on top in the tech/space race.

      • DaveH

        Mark in LA says — “DaveH you still don’t get it do you? Economics is NOT science. Therefore what somebody whites in his book is not proof of anything. It is his argument about what he thinks happened or is happening and why. So you telling everybody that some book has all the economic truths in the universe is total crap”.
        Mark, can you Liberals ever make your points without hyperbole or some other Liberal manipulative technique? Sheesh, it’s like arguing with an 8th grader.
        Where did I say Economics is Science? Although Austrian Economics certainly can be backed up more rigorously than the others. No human being can predict perfectly accurately the millions of different choices of humans all acting in their own interests in a National or even World-Wide context. And the Austrian Economists say that. It is for that reason that they argue that NO Central Economic Planning efforts can be effective.
        And where did I say “some book has all the economic truths in the universe”? And why are you so afraid somebody will learn something? If you want to remain Ignorant, Mark, then do so, but don’t try to discourage others from learning something.

      • DaveH

        I find it comical that the Liberals (Eddie, Dave67) pursue the path of arguing that Free Markets have never existed, so therefore we shouldn’t strive for them. That coming from the same people who swallowed Obama’s Hope and Change BS.
        Perfection has never existed either, so is that reason not to strive for it?
        But, in fact, we have had nearly Free Markets in our country’s past and we prospered from them. In 1900, for example, we had Government Spending of less than 5% of our GDP. And just two decades earlier with relatively sound money backed by Gold, and small Government, our workers enjoyed the greatest gains in real income (inflation adjusted) in the history of our country.
        Of course it’s difficult to maintain Free Markets because Leaders gain more power by aiding their Crony Capitalists who in turn help the Leaders get re-elected. Our only chance at the prosperity and peace that Freedom brings is to educate people to that reality.
        So the question here is — Are Eddie (the Union Guy) and Dave67 (Government employee maybe?) acting in their own self-interests or are they just ignorant people?

      • Mark in LA

        DaveH you always say the same thing – you point to some book on the mises web site and say that all we have to do is read it and we will know the secrets of the universe. For your information Austrian economics is the least mathematically rigorous of all the schools of economics so you are entirely wrong on that. Mathematical rigor, however, is one problems with economics. It makes its practitioners think they are actual scientists and not witch doctors in disguise.

    • Michael H.

      It’s obvious you’re a youngster, your education has been seriously compromised. If you had learned the truth, (Jimmy Carter imposed the” no person shall be denied a home because they can’t afford it”) rule. and unfortunately the Republicans helped it right along. Now, when I can finally see my way to paying for one, I have to dance thru hoops in order qualify with the bank.

  • Dee

    I sure wouldn’t pay $220 for a pair of shoes. That is simply stupid.
    People who buy more house than they can afford should NOT be
    bailed out.

    • Dave67

      Lets review history…. The regs concerning credit are relaxed, the speculators coming and artifically drive up the price of homes so they can make money… The people who actually need a home near where the jobs are (major metro areas)…these people have a choice… either throw their money away in rent or get on board with the money train that was the home bubble… The home builders, the banks and Pres Clinton and even Pres George W Bush encouraged this bad behavior and said to use your home as a bank. So while the people who purchased these homes deserve some blame, so does the banks, financial services industry, home builders and our gov.

      It was not too much regulation that trashed the economy, it was too little and good ole American greed.

      • Ted Crawford

        Once again Dave CRA!

      • Steven

        The banks were threatened with the old ” I am gonna tell everyone you’re a racist if you don’t loan money to poor people so they can buy more house than they can afford”. I think you know that,but you sound just like the other socialist’s.Barney Frank was one of those that held that gun to their heads.

      • Bob J

        All oif the above brought to you by the dumbocrat party

      • Dave67

        Wrong Bob J,

        Both parties and the big money that bought them are responsible. But keep those rose colored glasses on if you need them to sleep at night.

      • Eric Bischoff

        Sorry Steven but you are clueless and probably mean too!

      • DaveH

        Eric says “Sorry Steven but you are clueless and probably mean too”.
        Isn’t that laughable, coming from a Progressive whose policies involve Forcing people to do things their way via the Coercive Power of Big Government, and relieving others of their lawfully earned money. Talk about Mean. And hypocritical also.

      • Eric Bischoff

        Oh there’s DaveH speaking for others of what he knows not again.

        Any good mises links today for this one

      • Eric Bischoff

        DaveH I don’t know why you choose to spread falsehoods. Are you really that afraid of my ideas?

        I will need to straighten you out on a few things again. I am not for coercion at any level. Not from government, not from church, not from fringe lunatic groups and not from corporations and their lobbyists.

        I am for cooperation. I am for cooperative corporations. I am for an improved government that is not a winner take all where no one is ever happy anymore system.

        Cooperation, cooperate, agree, consensus.

        I don’t know why you are so upset, your ideas are winning a lot more than mine and look at the mess we’re in. Fascism is alive and well. Businesses can do what they want and everyone is focused on what people are doing with their bodies and in the privacy(not) of their homes.

      • DaveH

        Eric,
        Are you denying that you are a Progressive?

      • DaveH

        Are you denying, Eric, that you advocate Big Government to enforce your agenda?

      • DaveH

        In his usual double-speak fashion, Eric says — “your ideas are winning a lot more than mine and look at the mess we’re in”.
        They are? Every time I look, Government is growing larger. Am I missing something, Eric?
        Please correct me if Government is really shrinking and I’m just imagining things.
        And you call yourself well-read, Eric?

      • eddie47d

        Steven was clueless and not up to date on who caused the economic collaspe. There were several entities involved if he really cares.

      • Libertytrain

        DaveH – flashy takes a break and eric fills in…how funny….

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        What I find even funnier is that Eric the Red believes we’re all a bunch of scardy cats because we refuse to embrace the progressive/communist/marxist ideologies. The idea that constitutional and freedom loving Americans might reject that kind of ideology has obviously effected him. What Eric percieves as “new and progressive” ideas aren’t new at all. Re: Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Castro, Obama… :)

      • Eric Bischoff

        Oh Dave earth to Dave

        Cooperation not Enforcement. Get it?

        Are you not capable of understanding my words. Take your blinders off.

        And yes I am proud to be an open-minded liberal, progressive, left, cooperative, non-profit, worker-owned, partial libertarian, somewhat fiscally conservative, rarely RepublicRat, Higher Power believer, anti organized religions, anti-fascist, always rebellious, always challenging of authority, obsessed with justice and hypocrisy, beyond-capitalism, always for the environment frenchman who believes in human-rights, freedom, the brotherhood of man, and nothing less than full equality.

        And you?

      • Eric Bischoff

        Oh and JeffH you are still a moron.

      • eddie47d

        I like Ron Paul Eric but Jeff and Dave think that because they support him they are safe within his bosom and immune to criticism. You know outside the loop and without faults. They believe they have this Teflon shield where they are invincible and can attack anyone and from all sides. That way they can keep standing in their puddle of self righteousness. In reality they are mere mortals where their opinion is usually no greater or no worse than yours or mine yet their sanctimony always comes through and swells their heads.

      • DaveH

        Oh yeah, “cooperation”. Like when the Progressives lobby the Federal Government to pass laws for the citizens to “cooperate” with — Or Else!
        Eric must indeed believe that we’re Ignorant. We’d have to be to swallow his useless conjecture.

      • DaveH

        And Eric, there is no such animal as an “open-minded liberal, progressive”.
        If you were open-minded, we wouldn’t be having this argument, and you wouldn’t be a Liberal/Progressive.

      • eddie47d

        My point is proven at least with half of the Clown Posse.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Eric the Red called me a moron…ohhhhh! Beats the heck out of being a communist ya think?

        As for you eddie, no matter how hard you try to respond to the other liberal/progressive/commies that frequent this website you rarely ever get so much as an acknowledgement from them, other than jopa or coal miner(that’s real comforting I bet)…rejection from either side is tough on the Psyche…huh?

      • eddie47d

        It sure didn’t take long for the other half of the Clown Posse to show up and another slam dunk for eddie. By the way Jeff Jopa and I seldom comment to each other so go back to your salt lick. Did you overlook the fact that you and Dave respond continually also Vickie and Jay and Jeep and Caliber and SC and samurai and Tom W. and …………..

      • DaveH

        No, Libertytrain, I don’t think Eric is Flashman. Flashman is smarter than Eric.

      • Libertytrain

        Dave – I don’t think they are the same. I think eric came in to give flashy a vacation break. They rarely are on at the same time, just overlap — :)

      • siquijorisland

        The world of reality has its problems, so it is understandable that some people want to escape to a different world, where you can talk lofty talk and forget about ugly realities like costs and repercussions. The world of reality is not nearly as lovely as the world of Liberal Land. No wonder so many people want to go there. how is life in wonder land dave

  • http://liberty Tony

    To Everyone:
    This article demonstrates both the mentalities of the OWS movement and the Tea Partiers. Thanks!!

    • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

      Tea Partiers?? Man if you drink cool-aid in the early morning hours stay away from the VODKA!! You are an idiot and don’t have a clue what the tea party is about. They are far from the OWS and these same spoiled brats. Better yet have a double!!

    • philip beck

      How can anyone in their right mind conclude that we don’t spend enough on transfers? If there is any conclusion to be made, it is not that there is insufficient wealth transfer; it’s that redistribution of wealth has not worked. Robert Rector estimates that we spent $16 trillion on welfare between 1965 and 2008. That number has probably grown another $2.6 trillion just in the past three years (the part that’s not included in CBO’s analysis). And what have we gotten for it? We are languishing under record poverty.
      So we can actually conclude that, despite the growth of “income inequality” on initial earnings, we are experiencing a record level of wealth distribution through the tax code and unparalleled growth in government transfer programs. In other words, we have already implemented the very policies that the OWS protesters are demanding…and they have failed to close the gap! When will we end this circuitous madness? The Tea Party Patriots are 180 degrees from the OWS nanny state advocates.

      • http://AOL Gerald Midkiff

        Well said, Mr. Beck! As a college student during the 1960s, I closely followed the
        policies of democratic presidents and congressmen, expecially Pres. Johnson (LBJ)
        and the development of the democrat’s Great Society. LBJ lusted for public praise
        and approval as though he were a New England liberal (like the Kennedy clan) rather
        than a Texan with good common sense. His Great Society program started us down
        this destructive, irresponsible social and economic path. He was as much a Socialist
        as is Pres. Obama (and Pres. Carter). Our nation is suffering from the results.

      • Eric Bischoff

        I have a sneaky suspicion that most of you are not up to speed on the OWS Declaration. Maybe once you read it, you’ll realize that we are all in this boat together and they are actually a lot more organized and intelligent than you think and they’ve accomplished all of that without any financial support from the Koch sucking brothers. Not only that but this is a now a worldwide and growing movement. A ten mile human chain in Moscow protesting against Puttin!

        http://www.the99declaration.org/

        Elimination of the Corporate State.
        Overturning the “Citizens United” Case.
        Elimination of All Private Benefits to Public Servants.
        Term Limits.
        A Fair Tax Code.
        Health Care for All.
        Protection of the Planet.
        Debt Reduction.
        Jobs for All Americans.
        Student Loan Debt Refinancing.
        Ending Perpetual War for Profit.
        Emergency Reform of Public Education.
        End Outsourcing and Currency Manipulation.
        Banking and Securities Reform.
        Foreclosure Moratorium, Mortgage Refinancing and Principle Write Downs.
        Review and Reform of the Federal Reserve Banking System.
        Ending the Electoral College and Enactment of Uniform Federal Election Rules.
        Ending the War in Afghanistan and Care of Veterans.
        No Censorship of the Internet.
        Reinstitution of Civil Rights Including the Repeal of the NDAA.
        Curtailing the Private Prison Industrial Complex.

        Is there anything on here that you are against and why? Speak up now.

      • Jeep

        Eric, hmmm…I have read this and it is pretty amusing. I would challenge you to ask the average OWS’er if they had read or even understand the implications of this “declaration”. Anyway, let’s see…

        Elimination of the Corporate State…Okay, let’s start with getting govt out of the private sector.
        Overturning the “Citizens United” Case…Admittedly, I have a hard time with this one. So, I will reserve comment.
        Elimination of All Private Benefits to Public Servants…Meaning…what exactly?
        Term Limits…Okay…The framers argued this one and decided not, but I am ambivalent.
        A Fair Tax Code…GREAT! Everyone should pay the same amount in taxes! No matter what you earn…
        Health Care for All…Ummm…last time I checked anyone (including illegals) can walk into ANY hospitol and they cannot be denied services. Now, if you’re talking about having a mole removed…
        Protection of the Planet…From who? The Chinese? The Russians? Aliens?
        Debt Reduction…Wait a minute! You cannot reduce the deficit by spending money on student loans, jobs, and stopping foreclosures…that is unless you take money from the rich to pay for it. Right?
        Jobs for All Americans…I guess we are all to become govt workers? Or is govt planning to get out of the way of growth in the private sector? Which is it?
        Student Loan Debt Refinancing…Wow, a student runs up a college debt, and now wants to renegotiate the terms…go ahead, just don’t expect me to pay for it.
        Ending Perpetual War for Profit…ummm…what? Eric, you got your barrel of oil from Iraq and didn’t tell me about it, didn’t you? Well, I’m still waiting on mine.
        Emergency Reform of Public Education…And, waht does that mean? I have an idea! Let’s dump the DoE and let our local govt decide what’s best for OUR children.
        End Outsourcing and Currency Manipulation…So we are going to throw more govt regulation on top of other govt regulation that causes outsourcing to prevent outsourcing that was caused by govt regulation in the first place…wow…that makes my brain hurt. And, currency manipulation? How about this, stop printing money…oh yeah, and bailouts and govt handouts, etc
        Banking and Securities Reform…Sure, more govt regulation from the guys that brought you TARP, TARP II and are proposing TARP III.
        Foreclosure Moratorium, Mortgage Refinancing and Principle Write Downs…Here it is again, you say you want to reduce the debt, but are willing to use govt dollars to pay off PRIVATE loans. Wierd huh?
        Review and Reform of the Federal Reserve Banking System…Okay, I gotta agree with this one.
        Ending the Electoral College and Enactment of Uniform Federal Election Rules…How bizarre. You ask for big govt solutions everywhere else, why bother with this one?
        Ending the War in Afghanistan and Care of Veterans…You want to end care to veterans…what a cheap shot that is…
        No Censorship of the Internet….well, duh…
        Reinstitution of Civil Rights Including the Repeal of the NDAA…Whose civil rights? Monorities have better rights already. Don’t believe it? Take a civil service exam, or apply for a permit to do anything. Miorities automatically receive preference, by the same stupid laws that are supposed to be color blind.
        Curtailing the Private Prison Industrial Complex…Whatever…don’t break the law, and you will not have to deal with this problem.

        This is just my opinion…but, I like it!

        Cheers!

    • s c

      T, you’re welcome! ____ off!

      • http://liberty Tony

        To S.C.:
        As always, same to you, sir!! Have a good weekend. To everybody else, we as Americans
        have been spoiled brats now for three generations. We’re going to have to start living within our means and stop feeling we should have more than others. Good bye for now!!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Did you notice that Tony wants to be one of the ones who would decide how much of anything we should have? Must not have things even if it is our own money buying them. Must wait on the government to give us a fair share.

  • Doc Sarvis

    I thought parents are supposed to teach values and character. Teachers are trained to teach math, science, social studies, language arts, etc..

    • Ted Crawford

      Come on Doc! It’s very clear from our dismal standing in the International circle that these subjects are the least taught in our schools. The Teachers and Professors are far more interested in spouting political indoctrination than anything else!

      • Doc Sarvis

        So that’s why there are so many conservatives coming out of college these days.

      • Pat Goudey OBrien

        Most of the teachers I’ve ever met (and I’ve met a LOT) have wanted to teach kids. Some are just there to take up space until they retire, but you find that anywhere in this world. It’s a shame when the occasional bad teacher has to create the “template” for what a teacher is in the minds of people who don’t really pay attention. You will find bad teachers if you look for them. You will find awesome teachers, too, if you look for THEM. And — this forum as an example — EVERYbody wants to spout their opinion. The good teachers avoid doing it as part of any lesson plan.

    • eddie47d

      Marketeers sell these consumer ideals to students and even adults. They are the ones who indoctrinate the buying public. Parents either allow these kids or themselves to purchase the latest fad or not. Its not the teachers fault that a person is wearing a $220 pair of shoes. Its hard enough to teach without trying to be the gadget police too! Teachers can’t always be the mommy and the daddy and definitely aren’t shoe salesmen.

      • Oneguess

        Do you teach in Texas?

  • Blake

    The one thing I would disagree with in this article is…..these are NOT my children !

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Good for you, you raised your children right.

    • eddie47d

      In San Antonio?

      • Oneguess

        I’m thinking maybe you are in the Red River Valley, eddie.

  • Patricia Blaine

    I’ve been contributing to Social Security for 50 years. It’s not an entitlement. It’s my money, which was supposed to be held for me at interest. The government depleted the SS funds, and now it wants me to believe that my SS check is the government’s largesse. I am still contributing – double, since my one-person corporation and I contribute 15% of my income. Then I am expected to pay taxes on the SS money I receive every month.

    • Ted Crawford

      Patricia, we all owe a big thank you to Lyndon Johnson for the sad state of SS! In an effort to offset the hugh costs of his “Great Society” he pulled the SS money from the trust fund and inserted it directly into the general fund!

      • Pat Goudey OBrien

        I don’t think anyone is claiming that Social Security is “the government’s largesse” except those who want to destroy Social Security and any part of The New Deal, throwing us all back into the Gilded Age or into the hands of Robber Barons. Those of us who spent our lives supporting our culture, our society, and our government know better.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Why do you think FDR started Social Security? It was a con game from the beginning. Once something is started by government it is self propagating and self preserving. The only ones that are making money are the ones making salaries at Social Security Administration.

    • BruceD

      You are so right on. I get tired of claiming SS is an entitlement along with food stamps, etc. To get money out, you have to put money in unlike most of the other programs.

      Regarding many of the comments on this tread. What the article is saying, in my opinion, is that there is a lot of blame to go around. It is not Bush for goodness sake. It is the general “if you showed up for a game, you get a participation trophy” attitude. The schools are so intent on upping their graduation numbers, many overlook the senior can hardly spell or read. The schools are getting better at trying to reverse all entitlement, everyone wins attitude. The rude awakening is when getting a job. The boss isn’t going to give you unlimited attempts at doing your job correctly. You will be cut loose. News flash, you lost. No trophy.

      This whole attitude will probably take two generations to correct. It has to start now IMHO.

    • http://google rose

      Sad but true it is an entitlement. I’ve been paying into it for 35 years now. Would have been better if I could have put the money into my own personal savings or in some kind of investment. People get more ss than what they pay into it. And then there are those who never paid into it at all who still get it. Should have never been implimented to begin with. Should be phased out for those who put their trust into the government taking care of them. Because one day it is gonna be cut off anyways.

      • Mark in LA

        rose like a lot of so-called conservative you never bothered to understand how these things came about. They exist because all the ideas you think will work like private accounts and insurance were in place BEFORE the Great Depression. When all the banks went bust and all the company pension plans went bust, people were left destitute after working their whole lives long.

        Maybe you people are really too stupid to live with your idiocy that the private sector will take care of any problem, Had the private sector not screwed everything up so bad prior to the Great Depression, there would be nothing like Freddie and Fannie, the FDIC, and Social Security. These were created BECAUSE the private sector failed not because Roosevelt just got up out of bed one day and decided to create stupid programs.

    • FishingInTheSand

      Patricia, you said exactly what i was thinking. I started paying into the system as soon as I graduated from high school (could not afford college). I would much rather have had control over investing my own money but after all the deductions, there was nothing left for me to invest. I worked and contributed to the system well past retirement age and at age 76 would still be doing so if I could get a job. Now, to be told that I “have my hand out” while my tax dollars all my adult live have gone to support the “I wannas” is the ultimate in insults.

    • Michael H.

      Ain’t that the truth. And add 4 years active duty to mine Patricia. that last part, paying taxes on my measly 1100.00 a month is what Pi$$e$ me off the most. Double taxation or something,EHH?

  • Pat Goudey OBrien

    You must be out of your absolute mind. You don’t think it’s the “Greed is good” mentality of the Wall Street crowd that feeds this hysteria? And the “me first, and me only” crowd? Teachers — ? — easy targets, eh?

    • philip beck

      I would suspect that these chaps in Orlando do not know what Wall Skreet is. Chip did offer several other likely causes, didn’t you notice?

    • Alan

      @Pat – I think this article is spot on! The comparison of “What was” and “What is” is very valid here. When I was in High school economics
      we were taught ;
      that Insurance and Corporatism are socialistic,
      what Hitler did to stabilize the German Economy (to give the illusion that all was peaceful),
      that the convergence of Corporatism and Government is fascism,
      that Greed is bad,
      to not ask what our Country can do for us, but, what we can do for our Country,
      and a government that is big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have!

      Now, I still wonder how much of a true education these nincompoops mobbing stores for a pair of tennis shoes really got?

  • http://mozilla Robert E. Lee

    this is indicative of what the youth hold as sacred;;Obam the Imam is focusing on the universities and the “skulls full of mush” in his campaign speeches;; useful IDIOTS FOR SURE.

  • http://www.cindynel.co.za peter

    May I say it again? People do not know the difference between what they need and what they want. They have been taught this idea of entitlement, parents are to blame and their consumate greed has destroyed the brain cells needed to make rational decisions. Those sort of decisions are definitely ” uncool” and totally irrelevant to the unwise and uneducated youth of today who believe only in cell phones, idols, ipads, piercings and all that [offensive word removed]. Humans are the lowest form of life on this planet and do not qualify as civilized, deserving fully what awaits in the near future: their demise! Moronic behaviour is ideally suited to extinction.

    • Alan

      Laughable, ain’t it Peter? I love the laugh when I hear the phrases – “I need a cigarette!” or “I need a Coke!” I used to smoke and drink soda and I never once used the word “need” in place of “want.” But, I was raised a conservative, a Christian, a Boy Scout. Today I am still a Conservative, a Christian and a Scoutmaster. Boy, you know, there is something about having stability in your youth. As the Bible says – Raise up a child in the way they should go. The child may drift in their youth, but the accepted premise is they will return to the way they were raised.

    • Vicki

      peter says:

      People do not know the difference between what they need and what they want.

      That is why the communist slogan
      “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need”
      works so well. The “useful idiots” see the word need and translate it to desire. The truth however can be seen in any communist country.

      Btw slaves don’t need much beyond food, water, shelter. Air is delivered free by God.

  • Insurgent

    I can tell you have never taught in a public school. Blame it on the teachers because you want to blame someone. Many parents should never have been allowed to procreate. A teacher is only as good as the support and reenforcement from a home. Far too many school administrators are overpaid for the minimal backup they give teachers. Students want to run the schools and do not want to study; only want A’s for mediocre work. The list goes on and on.
    Eventually, society will pay for all the failures that are being pushed through these halls of learning.

    • Karolyn

      I’ve always said that I think it would be a good idea for people to be licensed to have children. That way they’d have to pass a test.

  • Henry Ledbetter

    CHIP HOW TRUE “…in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves…” This scripture ends by saying, “…lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God…(2 Tim.3:1-2). WAKE UP, AMERICA and search the scriptures for in them you shall find eternal life.

  • Steven

    Real men don’t live off other’s.The same with real women. There was once pride in taking care of your own life,and not ever taking money from anyone.Especially the government. If you are injured,or an orphan,or widow,then the Church used to help.But the government put their foot in it,and there are always strings attached when government gives.Even though it is’nt their money,it’s the taxpayer’s.I am glad we still have some real men and women that do’nt take money from other’s,and take’s care of their own lives and family.But it’s getting harder every day to do that,cause government wants to penalize you until you start taking something from them.Wake up American’s,and vote these democrat/marxist’s out in November,before it is too late.And just so the democrat’s understand this,Real Patriot’s that believe in free America like our forefather’s,will not let this crap stand much longer.If you keep pushing someone’s face in the dirt,you better watch out for his backhand.That is’nt a threat, it is just what happen’s when you push too hard.

    • Dave67

      So you do not think “strings” are attached with the Church?? No politics going on which the “church” now is there?

      Really???

      People do need to take responsibility for their own lives but the system needs to also be more fair.

    • John

      Stephen, ask some of the poor in some parts of Africa that get denied access to clean water unless they convert to the RCC that controls the only source of clean water in a lot of areas….church and charity my arse, church being a big business and men on a power trip to control the masses is more likely.

  • http://httpaol.com sean murrey ILLInio

    Todays kids are spoiled brats.

  • philip beck

    Come on Chip! These chaps in Orlando were only being enthusiastic entrepreneurs. They were limited edition! “Lim-Ah-Tid”! These wood-be capitalists were intending to purchase (or manage to get) the Nikes and re-sell them on EBay. You know, buy (or get) low…..sell high? By the way, are these the same Nike B-ball shoes that were given to our B-baller-in-chief a couple weeks ago?

  • charles

    Come November , these same people will be allowed to vote!

    • John

      yes they are, alongside with millions of people believing in superstition and religious fairy tales. If only sane people would be permitted to vote, there would be nobody left to vote.

  • FreedomFighter

    When the system fails, these are the people that will kill you for your k-mart boots, and your warm 2nd hand parka, then take your dog and eat it.

    Get armed get ammo, get food and water.

    IMPEACH OBAMA NOW

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Dave67

      State the high crime and misdeamenor Obama is guilty of… please

      • FreedomFighter

        Fraud-not a natural born American

        Rule by fiat

        Fast and Furious used to attack the 2nd amendment

        Signing of NDAA

        Obama care is unconstitutional

        The list goes on and on.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Dave67

        FF,

        “Fraud-not a natural born American”

        That is another right wing lie… He is more of an American than John McCain is (Born in Panama) but you fools had no problem with him running did you?

        “Rule by fiat”

        Really?

        “Fast and Furious used to attack the 2nd amendment”

        A Bush AG investigation that has yield NO attacks on the 2nd amendment… The only thing Obama has done to the second amendment is making legal to carry firearms on public lands… Want to try again?

        “Signing of NDAA”

        Its completely wrong but does not rise to impeachment… Try again

        “Obama care is unconstitutional”

        Then so is manitory auto insurance, but you loons do not have a problem with the Gov mandating that do you? Guess what? People are liking the fact that you can’t be turned down for insurance because of pre-existing conditions, they like that their kids can be on insurance rolls till 26. People will also like the fact that emergency rooms will not be filled with people without insurance getting the most expensive care there is on the tax payers dime…

        Do you have any more straws to grasp at?

      • FreedomFighter

        Can you show me Obamas long form BC? — no

        A president swears and oath to protect and uphold the constitution, Obama works to undermine and eliminate it, this alone is grounds for;

        IMPEACHMENT

        Obama is a liar and has be caught doing so, this alone is grounds for:

        IMPEACHMENT

        Obama;s father is not American, the displayed BC short from was a fake:

        IMPEACHMENT

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Dave67

        FF,

        If the previous administration did not get impeached for lying the country into war, the Patriot Act, Outting a CIA agent and general incompetance… What chance do you think you have with your flimsy nonsense and a president that is leading the country out of the economic abyss and ending these useless wars that have cost this country trillions of dollars?

        Hate does not make you look pretty.

      • FreedomFighter

        Obama cant even lead his dog around the yard.

        A liar for a president is unacceptable:

        IMPEACH OBAMA

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Alan

        “leading us out of war.” Really? Obama’s closing the chapters on Bush’s wars so that he can start his own. Libya and now the administration is beating the war drums for Iran! And btw, individual mandates, at the federal level, are unConstitutional! The several States may mandate things by majority referendum vote. You have your Constitutions distorted and confused with the old USSR. We are not the USSA, we are the USA! Hey Dave, you related to Ruth Bader Ginsburg?

      • Dave67

        Watch your rhetoric Allen… That is the GOP candidates talking tough on war with Iran. Because I guess they think we ave the money for war but not for working people…

        Priorities….

      • eddie47d

        War with Iran is a ruse whether encouraged by Democrats or Republicans. Clear the smoke and see all the false flags they throw at us.

      • Eugene

        Dear Dave . . . Driving a car is a privilege not a right. If you want to drive a car some of the requirements include being of age, having a driver’s license and having liability insurance in case you injure someone or damage someone’s property. There is no law that requires you to drive. It’s your choice. John McCaine’s parents were both natural born citizens thus making him a U.S. Citizen who meets the requirements to run for President as stated in the Constitution. Regardless of the very suspicious birth documents provided by President Obama he fails to qualify for the Presidency because his father was not a natural born citizen. Get your info right Dave.

      • Vicki

        Eugene says:

        Driving a car is a privilege not a right.

        Actually taking my private property from one place to another is a RIGHT. Protected by the 4th and 9th amendments. Exteded to control the states via the 14th. No mention is given as to the method of transport of my rightful property.

        If you want to drive a car some of the requirements include being of age, having a driver’s license and having liability insurance in case you injure someone or damage someone’s property.

        Crony capitalism at work. If you think someone might injure you and not be able to pay for it then get your own insurance. Insurance is to protect YOUR assets so YOU buy it.

        There is no law that requires you to drive. It’s your choice.

        I’m glad to see you understand that driving my private property around is MY choice.

        John McCaine’s parents were both natural born citizens thus making him a U.S. Citizen who meets the requirements to run for President as stated in the Constitution.

        I think you probably meant that John McCain was a US Citizen who was a Natural Born Citizen but your phrasing was unclear.
        The requirement to be a Natural born Citizen is:
        born on US Soil to 2 parents both of which are US Citizens. They do NOT have to be natural born citizens. John McCain appears to have been born on US Soil of 2 parents both of which were US Citizens and were probably Natural Born Citizens.

        Regardless of the very suspicious birth documents provided by President Obama he fails to qualify for the Presidency because his father was not a natural born citizen. Get your info right Dave.

        The father doesn’t have to be a natural born citizen. If he had been naturalized before Obama’s birth that would satisfy the definition of NBC.

        The LFBC however clearly shows that Obama is NOT elegeble. Of course it is a forged document so who knows who the father really was.

    • John

      All other nonsense aside, dog is actually pretty good eating. i had my share in Asia and parts of the US and always enjoyed it.

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        John- And I always thought you had other intentions for my dog when I saw you staring and slobbering at my poodle. Yep I thought we was a pretty good ole boy until I caught him jacking —- my dog.

      • FreedomFighter

        Dogs are not on the menu, unless you are a primative starving in the wilderness. Dogs are a domesticated servants of man, not to be confused with cattle, sheep and other edibles.

        Eating mans best friend shows what a great friend you are, and provides an example to others of a miserable excuse for a human being. In an emergency I would feed your kind to my dog.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • John

        lol Brad, you have a one track mind don’t ye? I laughed so hard I nearly spit my coffee on my keyboard….

      • John

        FF, just because people in the west chose to make animals their “pets” and a lot of times treat them better then the own children does not mean everyone else in this world should have to suffer from that mental illness. Dogs just like horses or other animals that the western society has turned into cuddly pet ( mostly as a way to get love they can’t get from something or someone else) are raised in other societies for their nutritional value only, not as pets. They are an excellent food. I have had many a times dog and horse even within the US. Although slaughtering “”pets”" for food is prohibited in the US in general, this law does not apply for the native tribes and customs in this country.

      • FreedomFighter

        B.S.

        Laus Deo
        Semper fi

      • eddie47d

        You lost me on that one John. I feel sorry for you if you can’t distinguish between a pet and a pound of ground beef at the market. If I was starving would I eat a cat or dog? Probably so to survive but since I am not I would never search out such food. “Pets” in China and other Asian countries are hung up alive for buyers to choose. Then they will skin them….. also alive right in front of you. Rather barbaric to me.

      • John

        Eddi, have you ever seen what we do to hogs, cows, poultry? If you believe that Asians are bad, you have never been around when they mass slaughter meat for consumption in the US. Meat is meat, it is your human attachment and your dire need for love …even if its just from an “pet” that turns the animal into a pet.

      • Karolyn

        John – You’re a disgusting example of a human being. I sure wouldn’t brag about eating dog! Anybody who can’t love a dog is suspect in my eyes, and I have found it to be true that people who don’t like dogs are shallow, don’t know how to love and make lousy friends.

      • http://none Claire

        Karolyn—I agree with your comments. As for John—different strokes for different folks. However, I think anyone that does not respect the human attachment between man and dog is a shallow person. I guess John would rather eat dogs instead of enjoying their companionship. Apparently John eats anything and everything he gets his hands on. I have 8 dogs at the moment, and proud of it. My husband of 52 years loved our dogs as much as I do. Our dogs did not “replace” the love and life that my husband and I had together. Now that my husband is gone, I am glad I have these dogs. My dogs are a part of my husband, and I treasure this fact.

      • Vicki

        John says

        Meat is meat,

        Well. no. If it were then you would not have such a wide range of prices for 1/4 pound of meat from different parts of different animals.

      • DaveH

        John says “Apparently John eats anything and everything he gets his hands on”.
        I think that might include taxpayers, Claire.

  • Catfish

    I agree with you Patricia, I paid into Social Security and my employer paid in the same amount for me. All my working life. And to have me lumped in with all the lazys drawing welfare and Medicaid, makes by blood boil. “Entitlements they call it” Well, there is a differance to paying for something, and sitting on your lazy butt and getting it for free.

    Social Security was in good shape until the government decided to move it out of the seperate account it was in, into the general fund, and they spent it.
    And I believe they should be made to put it all back into its own account and leave it alone. That was our savings, and they had no right to spend it.

    • DaveH

      Actually Social Security would be more of an “entitlement” than welfare is. Why are welfare recipients “entitled” to ride on other peoples’ backs?
      And when catfish says “That was our savings, and they had no right to spend it”.
      I would go farther than that, because they had no Right to take that money from us in the first place.
      To make the picture clearer — it is all about making people dependent on Government so that the Leaders can retain their Power. The Profession of Politician is a major attractant to Sociopaths.

  • philip beck

    Just take a moment and watch this Judge Judy Show excerpt and tell me you can’t detect the sorrow in her voice when she has to deal with exactly what Chip is talking about…

    http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=15915

    • FreedomFighter

      OMG, that tape needs to goto congress.

      70 thousands dollars wasted, admitted fraud by both parties, both on the government dole. I bet the dude is still getting money for guitar lessons because

      “Im me” and deserve it, “youknow”

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

    • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

      Thanks for this link. It was the best thing I have seen in a long time. 3 years of college eh?? Wow amazing! T had to sharew it on FB. Not that I spend much time there, but it is a great way to get a valuable link such as this to the masses. Gotta love it!!

  • frmore

    These were not “spoiled-rotten children” or “spoiled brats” or “spoiled teenagers”. They were congoloids. Why dance around that fact if one is attempting to present the truth?

  • Jim Phoenix

    I have been enraged and disgusted for years over the term “entitlements”. Medicaid, food stamps, school lunches and on and on are entitlements.

    To lump in Social Security and Medicare is as egregeous as it gets. Yes they can and should have adjustments, but hear this.

    I was 16 years old in 1959 working part time stocking shelves and bagging groceries for $1.15/hr.. Social Security was taken out. I enlisted in the military in 1962 during the Vietnam Era and discharged in 1966. Now Medicare tax had kicked in and continued until I left my last job at the end of 2006.

    I got a full time job and went to school at night for 6 years to better myself. I continued to work hard and advanced to the point I could put some money into IRAs. Without that I could not survive on Social Security.

    No one ever gave me anything and I never received an “entitlement” aka freebee!

    For those who feel we did not pay for and earn these promised, mandated benefits, I spit on you!

    • FreedomFighter

      Guberment already stole all the money. To give to the guy in the video in the post a few posts up, check it out.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

    • Annie

      THANK YOU! My blood boils everytime the government brings up Medicare and Social Security to scare Seniors. I am not retired yet and the way it looks I never will get to fully retire, I too have paid into this “system” for 40 years this is not an entitlement.

  • Capitalist at Birth

    Great article . As for some of the comments following, I have much more important thing s to do than to read diatribes from idiots who happen to know how to stroke a keyboard. Good Day.

    • John

      Aren’t you tired of the same excuses?

  • Molly Maguires

    Attacking the Teacher’s unions and not mentioning the Super PACs that have flooded our election process since Citizens United vs. Federal Election Commission, Chip Wood has tipped his hand exposing his bias. To not include “Corporations are people” and “Money is Speech” (1918) that gave Unions and corporations an inside track to access to our elected officials to pushing their agendas was a convenient omission. But Corporations have out-paced union in recent years by a long shot and have had unprecedented influence on legislation that has contributed to the record gains our “multinational” corporations, their CEOs and the top players in the investment industry have amassed over the last 30 years, thanks to laws that have practically incentivized outsourcing of USA middle class jobs (NAFTA (1994), GATT (1994), WTO (1999) to use cheap labor in 3rd world countries “emerging markets” and then flood our ports with these cheap goods to under-sell our Made in USA goods tariff free, still expecting the middle class to buy, buy, buy these goods at WalMart, even as their jobs are being eliminated. Not to mention the sweet deal our wealthiest citizens have gained with their purchase power in the halls of congress in the form of tax rates (long term capital gains, income tax vs. payroll tax rates, etc.) that benefit the rich, corporate welfare, tax loopholes for “multinational” corporations that allow them to fleece the USA, pay no taxes, thanks to generous loopholes, then park their profits off-shore so they may escape having to pay ANYTHING to the USA treasury; their biggest market. The fleecing of this country by the wealthy has brought the mighty USA low, but you won’t read anything about that in this publication. No, if fact, what they need is more, more, more! Don’t expect the wealthy to contribute anywhere near the revenue of pre-1980s taxation, let alone those expected of our most affluent during the 1950s; that’s class warfare!

    • Alan

      Molly, we can definitely agree on NAFTA, GATT and the WTO. As far as class-warfare; I’m an anti-Communist, therefore, I don’t typically do War! Neo-Cons exist everywhere! Look up “Neo-Con” on Wikipedia – these guys are everywhere! Doesn’t matter if a Neo-Con has an R or a D behind their names. These guys work in a concerted effort to derail the US economy for their gain. Look at Clinton and Newt – both
      Neo-Cons that gave us the afore mentioned agreements, organizations and treaties. I’m a Paleo-Con and I disagree with all the Neo-Cons regardless of their party afilliation.

  • John

    Wanna bet, those spoiled brats came from ALL sides of the political spectrum. I have seen it many times, when it comes to sport or sport related items, people miss behave, it has nothing to do with spoiled brats, and all to do with constant brainwashing (advertisements) and out of hand consumerism. Unfortunately the “”sickness”" inflicts all people independent of race, social background, political convictions, or education.
    advertisements are all around us, and unless you live in a cave somewhere you can’t get away from it. It works on the mind…even if you are not actually aware of the billboards, adds in paper and screens, your brain never the less registered it.And so, for years the masses have been purposefully turned into consumer slaves. I am not surprised at all by this type of behavior, just wait until the next generation grows up, a generation that does NOT know life without TV, PC,cellphone and advertisement…

    • Alan

      Neo-Cons are spolied brats and it doesn’t matter their party afilliation. I want out of SSI so that I can invest my own money for the rest of my life. I don’t want any of the money that I have already invested, I just want out to have the extreme taxes to cease. If I have MY money (taken from me forcibly), then I can invest MY money for MY retirement. granny always said; “..the best you can do is not be a burden to society.” Government is trying to make us all a burden on society!

      • Mark in LA

        Alan everybody probably said exactly the same thing you are saying right before the Great Depression when all the banks closed and all the pension plans went bust, This idea that you are going to “invest” your money and make out like a bandit might be true for less than 10% of the people and that would be the 10% who already don’t need Social Security. The rest of the people who believe this nonsense are deluding themselves. What do we do with them when they run out of money but can’t work anymore?

        The free market types are forever ranting on about the great success of Chile. Years ago Investor’s Business Daily did a story on the Chilean system and it wasn’t as pretty as you would be led to believe. Only 25% of the people in the country had enough to retire on from the system. 50% of the people did not contribute since their contribution was so small they firgured it wasn’t worth it taking it away from the hear and now. 25% contributed but figured they would never be able to retire since it was too small an amount.

      • Vicki

        Mark in LA says:

        Alan everybody probably said exactly the same thing you are saying right before the Great Depression when all the banks closed and all the pension plans went bust,

        Unfounded speculation.

        This idea that you are going to “invest” your money and make out like a bandit might be true for less than 10% of the people and that would be the 10% who already don’t need Social Security.

        The rest of the people who believe this nonsense are deluding themselves. What do we do with them when they run out of money but can’t work anymore?

        We take care of them thru church, charity and family. Oh wait. Progressives are busy destroying those institutions.

        Btw people who invest their money don’t tend to invest all of it so have plenty to save.

  • Karolyn

    No mention was made of the parents who were part of that crowd. Look at when it happens pre-Christmas at stores having crazy sales where people stampede to get in and get that special item for little Johnny. Totally ridiculous. It’s a testament to the materialistic attitude of our society. It’s all about greed once again!

    • S.C. Murf

      So true Big K, so true

      up the hill
      airborne

  • Bob

    Each of us can cite examples of greed and it accomplishes very little for us to debate who is to blame because it goes back to the beginning of time. It is not just humans, Have you seen what happens when you throw ears of corn to pigs. A pig will bully fellow pigs trying to grab a bite from each ear of corn because his greed leads him to think that he will get more that way than by concentrating on what is already available to him.

    Those of us old enough to have grown up in the last depression and went to war in our teens are responsible for some of the greed that exists today because we wanted our children and grandchildren to have a better life than the Hell we endured. Unfortunately, this cycle of entitlement increases until it is unsustainable and history repeats itself. Some of us are reliving the 1930′s with a president lying about how bad things really are and promising that things are getting better as the recession becomes a depression.

    I occasionally did not have shoes as a child and my toes are crooked because the shoes I did receive soon became too small and replacements were unaffordable. Unfortunately, it may take that kind of experience to help people understand the ridiculousness of $200 casual wear. 2012 appears to be the beginning of that lesson.

    • John

      Bob, Unfortunately, even on this forum, most people do not know what poverty is or even that one can be actually live a happy life WITHOUT all the little helpers that society has determined everyone should have such as PC’s,TV’s ,Cellphones Cars. There are millions of gadgets in everyday life that people have gotten so used to it, so spoiled that they don’t even see them anymore. What this country needs is an awakening. I watched a movie last night at a friends place, it was called “plastic” and explores the effects of the chemicals in the plastic components on our bodies, the environment and the food production, and most important on our children. If anyone really wants to see where a lot of our societies problems stem from, watch it with an open mind…you will be surprised what you can learn and why society as a whole was a lot healthier in every aspect 100 years ago then it is now.

      • Karolyn

        John, I googled Plastic and could not find a movie of that name.

  • Annie

    Although I am not a senior, I am shocked that a writer would suggest that senior citizens were partly responsible for the negligent actions of our government regarding Social Security. Many baby boomers and seniors alike would gladly take back their contributions into the failed system and with interest some may even be millionaires and able to retire without government assistance.

    It is misleading to suggest that senior citizens are in the same “entitlement” category as spoiled rotten Nike shoe shoppers. Publishing statements such as the above, only creates generational distention and it is misleading of the facts…..the facts that seniors, just like other Americans, have contributed to the fund. The writer’s attempt at relating the two is far fetched. Americans were forced to buy into the program. Now that those who paid the most are reaching the retirement age, some want to throw the seniors under the bus?

    Does the writer believe that the same gimme gimme gimme Nike shoppers are going to step to the plate to take care of their relatives or other seniors as they age? Are they going to be there to support their elderly relatives if they are unable to be self supporting? I think not and many and will feel no commitment to do so. We are talking about a total breakdown of society when senior citizens are treated with such disregard.

    Granted the program needs changes but I have tired of the selfish articles blaming senior citizens for the government’s gross negligence with Social Security. Privatization is a joke too with the corporate greed prevalent in today’s society.

    • FreedomFighter

      He did not blame the seniors he said:

      And let’s not forget about one of the most feared and powerful voting blocs in this country: our senior citizens. Any politician with the temerity to try to change some of the entitlement programs that are bankrupting this country is sure to face some of the most vicious and dishonest advertising campaigns this country has ever seen. Remember the Democrats’ response to Paul Ryan’s efforts to reform Medicare? Their “throw grandma off the cliff” TV ad was a classic of the type.

      The demagogues on the left learned long ago that if they can portray an opponent as wanting to “eliminate Social Security” or “slash Medicare,” they are almost certain of victory. So what if they are creating obligations this country can’t afford to keep? They want political power now — no matter the obligations that will be passed down to our children and grandchildren.

      He outline how the left would use the situation to attack. Up your reading skills.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • Molly Maguires

        When the author of a publication like this floats red meat out there for its constituency to devour about “dishonesty” look no further than the GOP.gov website. In it there was an article with a claim that caught my attention and galled my a_ _! Its headline stated:
        “ObamaCare Flatlines: ObamaCare Taxes Home Sales – Clobbers Middle-Class Americans!”
        So I looked into it (betcha, 99.44% of Republicans wouldn’t bother; they’d take it face value)…
        Turns out the 3.8% they’re talking about is charged on anything over a $500,000 PROFIT. That’s 3.8% on just the profit, not the total sale. They would get the $500,000 untouched… If their estate sold for a PROFIT of %500,100 they would owe a whopping $3.80 in estate tax to the big bad government. How many “middle class” home owners do you know whose house sales profit them anywhere near $500,00? Sounds like another veiled attempt to protect the wealthy from the tax happy government of the greatest country on earth.
        This is the type of deception that trips up the intellectually lazy masses who take at face value everything they trot out. The GOP, far too often seems to depends on their constituency to be lazy, or complicit in their deceit…
        Here’s the site; see for yourself, then snopes it if you don’t believe me:

        http://www.gop.gov/blog/10/04/08/obamacare-flatlines-obamacare-taxes-home

    • Mark in LA

      Annie this is another lie pushed about by Wall Street that you would have done so much better investing your Social Security money compared to what benefit you get. Until Carter and Reagan the payroll tax was quite small and any simple investments would get you nowhere near what SS payed you back. If anybody is going to get screwed, it won’t be people collecting now. It will be people 10 to 20 years out in high income levels who worked for 50 years (only 35 count in the payout calculation) and paid the maximum in each year.

      Along with this nonsense is also the belief that your employer would have added the amount they pay on your behalf to your pay. If you believe that, you probably already own a dozen bridges by now.

      • Vicki

        It’s not exactly a lie. This analysis found ONE individual who calculated he would do slightly better with social security (261k vs 255k (DJIA) )but on the 1st page last paragraph the article discusses other outcomes.

        The REAL differences are the side effects.
        Social Security. Pays till you die. Nothing for your children to inherit. Government gets ALL the rest

        Private investments. Pays till it runs out. If you die before then you can bequeath the rest to your children. Government gets only 0 or 55% or whatever they take in death taxes.

        Social Security. Takes your money at gunpoint. For your own good of course.
        Private investment. Accepts whatever amount of money YOU choose to contribute.

        Social Security. Encourages people to depend on the state.
        Private investment. Encourages people to depend on themselves and family.

  • sesame

    Politcians “will promise anything to get that vote”. Quite true! That’s the problem with democracy. You get elected by promising to do something. If you deliver, then the question is: “What have you done for me lately?” The answer is to promise more. Thus. inflation is built into the system..

    I don’t have an answer to this. Does anyone?

    • cawun cents

      Yep.
      Heres my take.
      Dont listen to what the mouth says.
      Find out what the politician is doing,and go on that.
      Look….I understand that there is a tendency to like our boastful legislators.
      Bragging is only as good as the actions of the particular lawyer in question.
      But the proof is in the pudding.
      To be too open minded(like some choose to be,while Rome is burning and the bow is rosined)is to fall prey to the likelyhood that ones brains will eventually fall out.
      The issue is and always was,the fact that legislators cannot protect you.
      When you rely on them(by placing your reliance on a politician),it is a disasterous ploy,a dangerous gambit,an insane tactic.
      You are doomed to experience failure on a monumental level.
      You are constanly falling prey to do-what-i-say-not-what-I-do posterior smoke blowing.
      You are like a young woman who listens to a man tell her he loves her,but then returns to beating her again time after time.
      After two black eyes,do I need to tell you again?
      Yes….you have to be lied to.
      You love lies.
      Just watch commercials on television for awhile and really critically think about them,while you observe.The tendency is to ignore blatant lies because the theatrics are amazing.
      Here is what in a nutshell,that you do when you listen to what a politician says,without using critical thinking to observe what he is actually doing.You ignore the blatant lie,because you like to take an ass whuppin’ dont you?
      The only certain thing is death and taxes,right?
      Everything else is subject to debate.
      The more the mouth talks,the more the male bovine fecal matter walks.
      Close your ears,and open your eyes.See what is really there behind the theatrics.
      Schoolin’ wont hurt you.
      But complacency sure will.
      Cheers!
      -CC.

  • Old Henry

    Chip:

    You intimated that Social Security is an Entitlement.

    Social Security IS NOT an “Entitlement” and I for one am fed up with politicians, media types and others referring to it as such.

    We pay upwards of 15% of our wages and salaries into that system at virtual gun-point for 30, 40 and even 50 years. There are several trillion of our dollars in Social Security. The only way it could even remotely be termed an Entitlement is from the view point that WE ARE ENTITLED TO OUR MONEY plus compounded interest.

    Medicare is not an Entitlement as, once again, we are forced to pay into that system at virtual gun-point.

    Medicaid IS an Entitlement as those recipients have paid nothing into it and they are using money, once again, stolen from the producers at virtual gun-point.

  • stopspending4

    Heard about this riot when it happened. WHile I agree that we have a spoiled, entitlement society, there is more to this story. The rioters were planning to buy the shoes for $200 and then sell them to the spoiled kids for $2000. This was a money making opportunity for ghetto kids. Sad that there are so many people with nothing better to do than wait to buy shoes or other products that they can resell for a profit and sad that there are those among us that will pay extra for products that are not even worth the original $200. Look at price of Super Bowl tickets.

    • FreedomFighter

      So they were rioting so they could extort more money from others?

      How sweet.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

  • Eugene Fife Jr

    I’ve been a teacher in the public school system for over 18 years. There are some of us who stand against the entitlement philosophy and stress self-reliance and the the work ethic. However, if parents, administrators, school boards and elected superintendents have entitlement mindsets don’t expect much to change. It’s easy to criticize those in the classroom who are doing the job. Did you go to any meetings when your school district was going to hire a superintendent? Did you investigate school board members before you voted? Most didn’t. Yet, they can sit back and pass judgment… because its easy or convenient. A large number of us stand alone, most of the time,for patriotism and the work effort. Thanks for the encouraging article!

  • doug

    As a teacher who taught , I would like to address a few things.
    SS was set up as a supplemental retirement program, with a very simple idea. If you paid in, you could take out. But, it got to be a really big pile of money and Congress began to borrow.
    Congress wanted to by votes so they started to allow women, who hadn’t paid in, to draw 1/2 of what their husbands were drawing. That pile of money got smaller. Can you imagine, paying in 1 unit and drawing out 1 1/2 units? Congress must have had special elementary schools where they learned the “new math”.
    Congress then looked at that big pile of money and decided that they want to give the handicapped and political refugees SS benefits. That pile was getting smaller.
    We have now arrived at a point where those who paid into SS are asking, “WHERE’S THE MONEY? WHERE IS THE TRUST FUND?”
    Bob, I have no objection to extending a helping hand to those in need, and if Congress wanted to, the money should have come out of the general fund NOT SOCIAL SECURITY!
    Considering the borrowing and the recipients who didn’t pay in, how could one not expect the fund to be in the shape it is. Is it an entitlement? It should be to those who paid in!

    • archangel

      I was in China a few years ago. There were numerous kiosks set up to help chinese people immigrate to the U.S. and retire on social security that they had not put one dime into. Our government decided that this was perfectly acceptable (during the clinton administration) and made if very easy for the chinese to get sponsers, immigrate to the United States, the sponsors then dropped them onto SSI (they were elderly of course) and sponsored new immigrants with out any punishment for not supporting the initial immigrants. Clinton, of course, was very much in bed with China having sold them our sonar satellite , and missle technology for contributions to his “war chest”…

      I am neither democrat or republican.. but a Constitionalist… and it is an issue of those in power betraying the oath they took to support that document and that concept which
      most have forgotten about that makes me furious.

      some one asked what obamma could be impeached about.. he has done everything he could to betray his oath as well. the constitution is NOT what he says it is.. it is what the founders said it is. We do not have a democracy, but a consitutional republic where no one is above that law. Note that Eric Holder is lying, and is in comtempt of congress but
      is being protected by obamma and his ilk. That should be enough to remove them both from office.

    • Mark in LA

      Well doug it is even worse than that. How many times do you hear that we need immigrants to keep the system afloat. What most people don’t realize is that immigrants are a big drain on the system compared to the native born. You already touched on the part where people sponsor their elderly parents and put them on SSI when they get here, However, the benefit calculation is based on the highest 35 income producing years, adjusted for inflation. Since most of the native born work more than 35 years they lose that time in the calculation. In addition, the payout calculates an inflation adjusted monthy average over 35 years and then applies factors to various income tiers to that monthly number. The tiers are 0-772 take 90%, 773-3200 take 32%, and above 3200 take 15%. The monthly average is not prorated for the number of years so some guy emigrating at 40 years old and working until 65 who only paid in for 25 years gets to divide his 25 year total by 35 years of months (420) lowering his average monthy amount so that more of his income falls into the lower tiers where he gets more back in benefit.

      Now they are currently paying in, but when they start to take out they drain the system faster than the same native born worker dollar for dollar. Only a politician or idiot would say immigration was “saving” the system, an actuary certainly wouldn’t.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Some Liberal posters don’t know these things, and don’t want to be bothered with knowing these things.

  • Annie

    Old Henry hit it right on. Social Security is not an entitlement like welfare, which some of the media would like Americans to believe.

    • http://gravatar.com/goodridehd goodridehd

      When Clinton went into office , as I understand it they said we had a surplus SS funds and could never run out.
      Mr Clinton solved that problem didn’t he.

  • http://gravatar.com/goodridehd goodridehd

    They can steal a pair of dem bakettball choose and makes em able to out run the policemans.Lets call em getaway choose.

  • Lady Kroft

    I can pretty much tell what income bracket a columnist/author is in by what rhetoric he speaks of. Usually the six figure income.
    Take for instance the rhetoric of “almost half of the people don’t pay income taxes”.
    When I was raising my four fatherless children, I made $75.00 a week and income taxes was taken out of that. Oh yes, I got it all back in April, but I “needed” it at other times of the year when it came to paying for food, rent, utilities. And wow, in April I got a refund which I might say helped cover the late fees I paid through the rest of the year because I didn’t have that “tax money” available to me.
    Well, let’s not stop there. After with what the government left me of my $75.00, I went to the market, gas station, department store, etc. and paid MORE taxes.
    Now I am drawing Social Security, an inhumane, paltry, amount of money that I am expected to live on, and they’re calling it an entitlement. IT’S NOT!! I paid into it. Some may say that I am getting out of it what I paid into it which they would be right in part, however, the government SSA has been collecting interest on my money for 60 years now and if any part of that was added to my monthly “entitlement” I could live a decent life.
    Americans and our government cry and whine about what they consider entitlements… yet we send $800 billion dollars YEARLY, to our self-proclaimed enemies in the middle east, the MUSLIMS/ISLAMISTS, not because they’re hungry or destitute, but for nothing more than to rebuild their mosques and train their military our military tactics so that they can better fight our soldiers.
    How much taxes did they pay into our system to deserve/receive that amount of money????????
    Next question.
    How many of our own people would that $800,000,000,000.00, take care of???
    So, Mr. Halfthepeopledon’tpaytaxes, channel your complaint to the government where it’s deserved and stop insulting your own people. There will always be welfare scammers and con artists, probability and statistics dictates that, but they’re not the majority and some can’t work and others really want a job , yet you and the likes of you lump them in with the minority of frauds.
    If you want a classic example of “entitlement” look at our politicians and what taxpayers pay them. Talk about getting something for nothing!!
    America should take care of its own first and foremost. If we stopped sending true entitlements to other countries we’d have a surplus of money to take care of our own. Even our welfare cheaters would deserve it more than the middle eastern people.
    It never fails to amaze me how our own people heartlessly complain about our own people yet never blink an eye about helping foreigners. It’s like feeding the neighbors kids before you fed your own.

    • Eric Bischoff

      Well, said Lady Croft

      And I will add that when we count the entitlement that the wealthy & corporations get that they don’t need like oil companies or big agra, or absent gentlemen corn farmers for example, we find that it much larger that the entitlement that the Americans paid into and deserve because after all we decided long ago to be a better society, one that cared for it’s people and one that would not let anyone go hungry or sick or uneducated or homeless. Although that’s not working out so well is it!

      But hey there’s always money for war!

      But somehow this crowd would rather that corporations and the wealthy did even better and that the people who weren’t so lucky or greedy in life can just suffer and die.

      • Mike W.

        Just remember,the government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take it all away including your life.
        Keep in mind that governments, regardless of political philosophy,
        killed over 100+ million of their own citizens in the last century.
        At last check, it’s still going on in most of the world. Just look at
        the Middle East over the past year.

    • FreedomFighter

      For you and Eric — Cognitive Dissonance

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w45Pct9dVj0&feature=related

      Communists wrap themselves in the false belief they are doing good for society, when in fact they bring oppression and slavery, killing millions upon millions in search of utopia, participate in genocide, infanticide and eugenics and tell those being murdered its for the best they die.

      Soros shills.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • OldWriter

        Four ‘fatherless’ children? What? Test tube babies?

  • JAS

    Welcome to the reality my(our) generation has created. You know the reality the greatest generation endured a Depression and WWII over only to see us squander.
    We have become the generation of divorce, abortion, one parent families, entitlements(the new slavery), narcissism, greed, 99%’rs, out of control drug culture, aids, homosexual marriage, a president who spits on the constitution, a media who has lost it’s objectivity, Christianity equated to hatred, big brother intrusion into every aspect of life, a nanny, womb to tomb mentality, 49% graduation rates in our cities (look it up), 70% illegitimacy in the inner cities, priest scandals, female teachers with students, pedophilia exploding and …(add your own thought here).
    Does really surprise any intellectually honest person?
    Sandra Fluke – proudly proclaiming the women at Georgetown Law School are little more than oversexed sl*ts.
    Meanwhile, $4 gas, 8+% unemployment (16% under-employement), $15/$16 Trillion debt ($5Trillion under POTUS), 3 years+ since Harry Reid passed a budget in the Senate, and …(add your thought here).
    Why should any of this be a surprise?
    Watch the movie “Idiocracy” and tell me if we aren’t there.
    Even so Lord Jesus, come quickly!!

    • S.C. Murf

      Amen JAS, you said a mouthful. In the twinkling of an eye

      up the hill
      airborne

    • Karolyn

      JAS said: “proudly proclaiming the women at Georgetown Law School are little more than oversexed sl*ts.”

      Are you serious????? Because someone is having sex, and they don’t want to get pregnant, they’re oversexed sluts?

    • John

      “Even so Lord Jesus, come quickly!!”

      Don’t hold your breath..

      • cawun cents

        Hold yours please.
        Cheers!
        -CC.

  • Daniel from TN

    Chip – You missed one fact in your article. According to the US Dept of Education, today 60% of high school seniors graduate illiterate; so illiterate they cannot point to their own name on their diploma. Some education experts, whatever that now means, believe the number could be as high as 75%.

    • Molly Maguires

      Wow, Daniel! I want to see your source for this one!
      According to what I’ve been able to find, between 21% and 24% of U.S. adults performed at the lowest level for all three scales, and most of these dwell below the poverty line.
      Sounds like somebody has an axe to grind and uses tall tales to grind it.

    • Eric Bischoff

      Maybe we should hire the Cubans as consultants. I hear they have 98% literacy on a shoe string budget!

      I am always for modeling excellence where ever you find it. It’s a short cut to success.

    • Mike W.

      Dan, I’ll back you up on that comment. In the late 1980′s, I actually taught adults with high school diplomas how to read and write.
      It’s a shame these people went twelve years to school and never even learned the basic skills necessary to make a living and exist in modern day life.
      Their arithmetic skills were not much better, too. The real tragedy is the billions of dollars that have been wasted on education. The results have been dismal in my opinion. By the way the DOEd. is a $90 billion dollar a year joke. Since its inception 35 years ago, the system has eroded even further than it had since the progressives’ takeover of the schools in the 1930′s.

      • Molly Maguires

        Mike, I’ll take your word for it. There are plenty of examples in my small town community of youths who have chosen to ignore their schooling or were preoccupied with life issues that alienated them from the school process, none of which compare to the detestable conditions that our inner city youths contend with. Some are enrolled in the GED program our community offers to drop-outs who have found out for themselves what a lack of education means in the “real world.” Plus, our school has 208 students in our Intermediate and Middle School (5th – 8th grades) with some form of learning disability that is prohibitive enough so that they have official IEPs and a handful have disabilities so profound that they have adult aids that accompany them throughout the school day to assist in their needs. Yet all but a hand full, say 20 of the most severely disabled failed to make AYP, which is remarkable, attributable to the lengths our schools’ administration and staff go to meet all their students’ needs. But throwing a number out there like 60% is rediculous! Maybe his statistics came from prisons whose inmates are comprised of illegal aliens; but that’s another matter…

  • Lady Kroft

    I can pretty much tell what income bracket a columnist/author is in by what rhetoric he speaks of. Usually the six figure income.
    Take for instance the rhetoric of “almost half of the people don’t pay income taxes”.
    When I was raising my four fatherless children, I made $75.00 a week and income taxes was taken out of that. Oh yes, I got it all back in April, but I “needed” it at other times of the year when it came to paying for food, rent, utilities. And wow, in April I got a refund which I might say helped cover the late fees I paid through the rest of the year because I didn’t have that “tax money” available to me.
    Well, let’s not stop there. After with what the government left me of my $75.00, I went to the market, gas station, department store, etc. and paid MORE taxes.
    Now I am drawing Social Security, an inhumane, paltry, amount of money that I am expected to live on, and they’re calling it an entitlement. IT’S NOT!! I paid into it. Some may say that I am getting out of it what I paid into it which they would be right in part, however, the government SSA has been collecting interest on my money for 60 years now and if any part of that was added to my monthly “entitlement” I could live a decent life.
    Americans and our government cry and whine about what they consider entitlements… yet we send $800 billion dollars YEARLY, to our self-proclaimed enemies in the middle east, the MUSLIMS/ISLAMISTS, not because they’re hungry or destitute, but for nothing more than to rebuild their mosques and train their military our military tactics so that they can better fight our soldiers.
    How much taxes did they pay into our system to deserve/receive that amount of money????????
    Next question.
    How many of our own people would that $800,000,000,000.00, take care of???
    So, Mr. Halfthepeopledon’tpaytaxes, channel your complaint to the government where it’s deserved and stop insulting your own people. There will always be welfare scammers and con artists, probability and statistics dictates that, but they’re not the majority and some can’t work and others really want a job , yet you and the likes of you lump them in with the minority of frauds.
    If you want a classic example of “entitlement” look at our politicians and what taxpayers pay them. Talk about getting something for nothing!!
    America should take care of its own first and foremost. If we stopped sending true entitlements to other countries we’d have a surplus of money to take care of our own. Even our welfare cheaters would deserve it more than the middle eastern people.
    It never fails to amaze me how our own people heartlessly complain about our own people yet never blink an eye about helping foreigners. It’s like feeding the neighbors kids before you fed your own. Amen.

    • Jeep

      Funny that with your “paltry” benefits you can still afford the luxury of the internet…hmmm…Anyway, Chip was clearly stating that half the population pays no INCOME taxes, which you admit you do not. Personally I do not have a problem with sales taxes, everyone gets charged the same! Wow…what a concept! And, you cry over having a fair playing field…sheesh. But, I think the real beef comes with SS. Sorry, but the same system that provides you a paltry SS check is the same system that others drew from to receive their SS checks before you. Pretty vicious, huh? The fact is, you have no idea what it is you are railiing against. What you call Social Security is in fact the federal Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance (OASDI) program. OASDI is at it’s core a redistribution of wealth scheme and an UNEARNED entitlement for many. Yes, you should have all the money you placed into OASDI returned…with interest. But, do yourself a favor and find out what it is you are so upset about. You and everyone else upset over OASDI do not have a clue.

      • Thinking About

        Jeep you might be one of the spoiled rotten kids, have you ever experienced the public library or one of the many senior centers? If you haven’t then you might be surprised to find free Internet in those places so never judge someone about affording the Internet, she just be smarter than you think.

    • Vigilant

      Lady Kroft, check your figures. Total foreign aid, civilian and military, is about $50 billion, not $800 billion. Still too high, I agree, but let’s be accurate when we can be.

    • Vigilant

      Lady Kroft says, “Now I am drawing Social Security, an inhumane, paltry, amount of money that I am expected to live on…”

      If YOU expect to live on it, then you never understood the Social Security program. It was never set up to be a retirement plan.

  • DaveH

    Make no mistake about this, Folks. We’re caught in a struggle with the Progressive Leaders who just want their Power and Perks at the rest of our expense, and the Green-Eyed Progressive followers who have bought into the Propaganda that Capitalism is suppressing them, when in fact we haven’t had anything close to Real Capitalism in this country for over 100 years.
    And the Crony Capitalism, which Progressive followers mistake for Capitalism, is promoted by both Republican Leaders and Democrat Leaders. The only way we can get out of this mess is to get educated and realize that we need to get Government out of our Marketplaces. We need to take Marketplace decisions out of the hands of the Politicians, and put them in the hands of the Consumers who know best what they really want.
    Government is Force. Let’s get back to Voluntary transactions.

    • DaveH
    • Eric Bischoff

      DaveH
      You can repeat the lie all you want it does not make it so.

      Progressives are not in charge. Conservatives and centrists run this country, they always have. Progressives only put pressure on them and it always takes years and a lot of pushing to get any of the progressive agendas passed.

      Getting African-Americans and women the Right to Vote, creating Social Security and lifting millions of elderly people out of poverty, ending Segregation, passing the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, creating Medicare, passing the the Clean Air & Clean Water Act. These things took decades and a lot of energy by the progressives and finally the people came around and chose to have these things.

      These are what make America a great place. Not your unrealistic utopian supposed free market and small government theories which will never happen unless of course this country disolves like the USSR and maybe that’s what you want. You can’t have free markets when everyone cheats and has their pet protectionism and subsidies.

      And don’t forget that the blue states are financially carrying the red states!.

      • Vigilant

        “Progressives are not in charge. Conservatives and centrists run this country,”

        Only a communist could think such pap. Eric, you’re so far left that you actually believe that progressives are not in charge of this country.

        Note to eddie: you still believe Eric’s not a communist?

      • Vigilant

        Eric’s latest gaffe: “And don’t forget that the blue states are financially carrying the red states!”

        Tell me, son, under the Constitution, where do you find any intimation that any state should “carry” any other state? Under Conservative, Constitutional principles that would never happen. And you still maintain that the country is run by Conservatives and centrists?

        No, it’s the unconstitutional wealth redistribution schemes of the leftists like youself that hold sway in this country, and seek to make one state “beholden” to others by illegally apportioning Federal taxpayers’ money..

        Care to explain away this claim that counters another of your claims made in the same paragraph? .

      • Dave67

        Vigilant,

        I know you on the right have a hard time understanding this because you are so far right…But in the Democratic party, there are only a few liberals/progressives, alot more corporatist/centrists… and a small number of conservatives. The GOP has a few corpatists/centrists and the rest are far right.

        Who is in charge of the House? The GOP are? Who is head of the senate? Harry Reid… he is NOT a liberal.

        From 1994-2006 the GOP had Congress, from 1980, We had Reagan for 8, Bush for 4,Clinton (not a liberal) for 8 and Bush 2 for 8…So most of the POTUS were GOP… Where they liberal?

        But the right are always the victims aren’t they? The reality is that liberals have not had any real power since the early 1970′s But the anti-union, anti-worker stance the right are taking these days will help ensure a swing back to the left.

        Facts tend to get in the way of right wing rhetoric.

      • Vigilant

        Dave67 (is 1967 your birth year? Explains a lot) provides his political expertise with “But in the Democratic party, there are only a few liberals/progressives, a lot more corporatist/centrists…”

        Yeah, right! Perhaps you’d like to take a look at http://www.wnd.com/2010/08/191609/ , but then again, I doubt you will:

        “The Democratic Socialists of America boasted in a newsletter to insiders 70 of its members currently serve in Congress, but an independent survey by WND suggests the number of actual avowed or semi-secret socialists in the House and Senate is considerably higher – at least 82.”

        The 111th Congress had 256 Democrats, and you say that between 28% and 32% of that number is “a few?”

        BTW, Democrat and Republican ranks are both LOADED with corporatists. If you had visited this site at any time with comprehension, you’d have understood that the Democrat/Republican paradigm is a useless construct.

        The important consideration, above all, is whether we will respect and abide by the Constitution as the Law of the Land, or whether we continue to allow the progressive influences to destroy that document and its promises for individual freedom. Conservatives/Constitutionalists advocate for adherence to the Constitution, NOT fiat rule by executive order, unaccountable regulatory agencies, czars and activist judges.

        Harry Reid’s not a liberal? You’re positively balmy. And the only president who came close to being a Conservative on your list was Reagan. You remember him, don’t you? You know, the guy whose economic policies ushered in the longest sustained period of business prosperity in the history of the United States, and was a prime mover in the demise of the USSR?

        Facts don’t tend to get in the way of leftist propaganda, they always in fact DO get in its way.

      • DaveH

        Eric says “You can repeat the lie all you want it does not make it so”.
        Eric it is you who are spreading the lie. The facts are borne out in the reality of the Economics of those countries with the Smallest Governments. How does it feel to argue for an agenda that doesn’t even work in real-life experience?
        And in fact, women and minorities are only pawns used by Evil Leaders to cement their power. In both cases they are better off in the Freer countries than they are in the Less-Free countries. We would have gotten over the racial and gender tensions many decades ago if the Government wasn’t stirring up controversy by passing laws to favor one class of people over the other, thus creating a constant resentment among the citizens.
        Anybody who wants to put the “lie” to Eric’s conjecture can read this Free online book and learn something that Liberal/Progressives don’t want you to learn:
        http://library.mises.org/books/Murray%20N%20Rothbard/History%20of%20Money%20and%20Banking%20in%20the%20United%20States%20The%20Colonial%20Era%20to%20World%20War%20II.pdf

  • Marilyn

    There are the 20 year old givers, like the US Military, and there are the 20 year old wanters, like Occupy. Obama seems to like Occupy. Wonder why?

    • eddie47d

      Alot of “wanters” just want a job and are sick and tired of being unemployed. Then we have “takers” on Wall Street who fill their pockets without providing those jobs. They got theirs so to heck with those who don’t is their motto. I do agree that service to one’s country is an honorable endeavor. I also believe our continual unwarranted wars are keeping alot of good men and women from taking that option.

      • Jeep

        Eddie, are you implying that young people do not want to join the military because we are at war? Ummm…that’s wierd. I always thought the military needed to be prepared to go to war. Or, is just another social welfare program?

      • John

        Jeep, for the longest time that’s exactly what it was and in a way it still is, remember all the whining of people because their husbands or wife’s had to …gasp…. deploy to war… it was easy to receive our tax money (welfare) for years and then when they ….gasp… where asked to deliver on their promise and oat and actually earn their money all hell broke loose. And still, I see people whine and complain even today, after 10 years of wars about the fact that soldiers are actually…gasp.. shot at and get killed…. wtf does anyone expect will happen to people that sell their body and soul to the military during time of war? That they can sit around at same base for the whole enrollment time and watch movies and play cards?

      • Jeep

        John, I hear you, my friend. I spent 27 years in the Army and was always amazed to hear about the “soldiers” who deserted, claimed to be consciencious objectors or just got pregnant! All that craziness to avoid a deployment. The sad fact is that there are soldiers who enlist today and will still develop these “issues” when it comes time to deploy. You’re right “wtf” did they think would happen?!?

      • eddie47d

        Beyond 9/11 there aren’t many reasons for America to go to war Jeep. Yet that wasn’t enough to get our pound of flesh and then come home. We kept poking for more crises and making up false flag excuses. Why would any parent “volunteer” their child into a war without a clear vison. Why would a young man or woman volunteer for 3 or 4 rotations in any war that never should have happened and has no end. If this keeps up and there is a real crises or attack ON America nobody will care and our country will be doomed.

      • Vicki

        eddie47d says:

        Alot of “wanters” just want a job and are sick and tired of being unemployed.

        What’s stopping them from starting their own business? Oh right. Big Government regulations.

        Then we have “takers” on Wall Street who fill their pockets without providing those jobs.

        After they fill their pockets they spend the contents of their pockets cause they can’t eat money thus they ARE providing jobs. Just because the job isn’t what the OWS crowd wants is not relevant.

  • Power To The People

    Many kids today do lack discipline, respect for others and appreciation for social grace. The reason goes back to mostly their parents and extended families. Teachers do not have the sole responsibility to enforce discipline and frankly can’t as most procedures were removed long ago to allow such in public schools. This shift was brought on by progressives whom felt the “feel good society” would fix all ills.

    The post that the baby boomers are the root of evil is plain stupidity! I as a boomer on the younger end have worked my ass off from the time I could lead a horse with a wagon through the tobacco rows to owning my own business, all the time saving for my future and for our kids college costs and helping pay elderly parents care costs. I will never see the full boat of SS payments I made into the system as they go out tomorrow to the current beneficiaries some of whom never paid a cent into the fund.

    Our progressive Federal Government has followed the same failed policy of tax more, spend even more and everything has to get better! Last time I checked, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity!

    • John

      Its not only kids that act up, its adults of all ages too. We had a 63 year old woman locally at Target that was arrested because she took a fishing rood and attacked several other shoppers over items that where on sale in the clothing area.

  • Thinking About

    Wow, what an article. Spoiled kids, it is not only the kids but many of all ages. From some of the post here calling others idiots also shows a spoiled undisiplined person. Then the post went to birth control and some who profess less government and liberty but surely don’t mind to interfer with others liberties. Blame the unions, also in the union list we must include NRA and many other groups, aligning themselves together for one cause. This would also include political parties, lots of money goes to those groups and with lots of lobby for their “causes”. It could also go for religious groups who also lobby, protest and march. Spoiled, look at the lock and load group and you will find adults who fit the definition of spoiled.

  • http://gravatar.com/xxxxhappens xxxxhappens

    So, you think that old folks who have paid their dues by contributing to the system for 30 or 40 years are part of the problem? Really, if it wasn’t for their hard work they wouldn’t be entititled-but they did work. They did produce and they did have social security dollars taken from their paychecks whether they liked it or not. You are really addressing the wrong end of the issue. How about hitting those who have never produced, and never paid in, like illegals, like lifelong welfare recipients. Old folks, the gold standard of our society don’t deserve to be attacked as being selfish and looking for handouts. It’s their own money!

    • Eric Bischoff

      xxxhappens you started out great but then you went right in to blaming immigrants and the poor and people on welfare. You need to educate yourself on what the real problems are it’s not the groups you mentioned. Remember that that’s how Germany got themselves in trouble with that kind of attitude and beliefs.

  • Dave67

    To DaveH,

    You have never been able to answer the most simple of questions… What country do your sources model their utopia of free market capitalism under?

    Name me the country that exists today that meets your criteria.

    Waiting for your answer….

    • John

      I am following this site now for several years, and this question has come up many times and he never answered….. because he can’t. DaveH is a theorist, just as Marx, Lenin, Ayn Rand, R Ron Hubbard, Plato, and so many others. He either has no grasp on reality or he denies reality.. I personally would not be surprised if some of the articles on mises are either written by him or he somehow gets some kind of kickback for stirring traffic there. Mises is a site that has many good theories,…… if you believe in a perfect society and utopia. In truth though, human greed and the criminal element will not permit any of his utopia to ever materialize, just as true communism or true democracy sounds good in theory, but is doomed to fail for the same reason. In the history of this planet there was only one country that had 100% true democracy, and that was the city state of Athens in ancient Greece…and it failed because of corruption and greed. There was never a true communist country, a true republic, or true capitalist society. Even our republic has become corrupt nearly as soon as it became established. It is my believe that the future will show that none of those so called pure forms is fit to govern societies made up from individuals. I.M.H.O. what will emerge is a form of government that takes whatever is needed from all the different base theories and combines it into something totally different.

      • Dave67

        Thank you John…. DaveH is in perpetual la-la land. You are correct, Capitalism, like communism fails for the same reasons… human failings… Greed, Jealousy, laziness, apathy all doom the pure forms of Capitalism and Communism.

        DaveH and others here are so blind to reality and entrenched in their adoration of the unattainable “free market” capitalism that they just do not understand human nature. Even the great Ron Paul cannot fully comprehend this reality.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Dave67/Flushy: What country do your sources model their utopia of free market capitalism under?

        I believe DaveH answered your question on several occasions, plus, he provided numerous links for you to follow-up. So what’s your problem; Alzheimer, or inability to click on link?

      • DaveH

        It’s interesting that the Liberals have been attacking me lately with the Utopian charge. Is this their new tact? They are famous for adopting terms that have been used against them, and then using them against their opponents. It seems to be a common Liberal tactic to try and muddy issues so as to hide from scrutiny.
        In fact, as a Libertarian, I am about as far away from Utopian (where everybody shares equally in the available resources) as a person can get.
        Maybe they’re just ignorant?
        At any rate, Folks, notice how vehemently the Liberals/Progressives have been personally attacking me. And these are the people that would like you to believe that they are the “compassionate” class. Yet, they can’t even refrain from disrespectful treatment of their fellow commenters.
        This should be a lesson for good folks as to what we’re headed for if we let these morally bankrupt people take any further leadership of our country.

      • Vigilant

        John says, ” In the history of this planet there was only one country that had 100% true democracy, and that was the city state of Athens in ancient Greece…”

        Wrong! Between a quarter and a third of the population were slaves.

      • Vicki

        In truth though, human greed and the criminal element will not permit any of his utopia to ever materialize

        Not his utopia. ANY utopia. That is why governments are instituted among men. To secure mans Creator given rights. To protect men from those who would use force or fraud against them. You might want to re-read the Declaration of Independence where the founders comment on this.

        just as true communism or true democracy sounds good in theory, but is doomed to fail for the same reason.

        Neither of them sound good in theory. Communism tries to make you believe you are sharing equally but when you actually listen to their famous soundbite you realize the trap.

        “From each according to his ability. to each according to his need”

        This is the description of a slave and not a equal partner. From each is taken all that he can do. Given to each is his need. People do not need iPhones nor Health Insurance. They Need only food, water, shelter. Air is provided free by God.

        Democracy was demonstrated rather well about a year ago. I was watching video from Egypt. I watched about 15 people get together and vote on what to do with a pickup truck. They voted 14-1 to tear it apart. They then dismantled the truck. They then voted (14-1) to burn the truck. The truck lit the night sky. They then voted (14-1) to beat up the driver. He was later taken to a hospital. Democracy had come to the sands of the Pharaoh.

        In the history of this planet there was only one country that had 100% true democracy, and that was the city state of Athens in ancient Greece…and it failed because of corruption and greed.

        It failed because of democracy. Here is a good clip on several forms of government and why they work/don’t work. Democracy starts at about 5 min into the clip. The whole thing is ~10 min long so I encourage you to watch the whole thing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4r0VUybeXY

        There was never a true communist country, a true republic, or true capitalist society.

        Of course there are. Communism is really a few aristocrats and a bunch of slaves. Someone has to make sure that “from each according to his ability” is enforced.

        Ancient Rome and early US are both true republics. See the link above.

        Ancient Rome was a true capitalist society. (see link above). The US was for a while. Hong Kong was. If you actually play MMOs (and know what that means :) ) you will find several true capitalist societies working just fine.

        Even our republic has become corrupt nearly as soon as it became established. It is my believe that the future will show that none of those so called pure forms is fit to govern societies made up from individuals.

        Our founding fathers warned of this problem too. Our Constitutionally LIMITED Republic only works for a moral and religious people (not stating which religion but the moral part is enough).

        All we really need from the people we give the power of government is that they understand and honor their oath to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

      • Vicki

        John writes

        In truth though, human greed and the criminal element will not permit any of his utopia to ever materialize

        Not his utopia. ANY utopia. That is why governments are instituted among men. To secure mans Creator given rights. To protect men from those who would use force or fraud against them. You might want to re-read the Declaration of Independence where the founders comment on this.

        just as true communism or true democracy sounds good in theory, but is doomed to fail for the same reason.

        Neither of them sound good in theory. Communism tries to make you believe you are sharing equally but when you actually listen to their famous soundbite you realize the trap.

        “From each according to his ability. to each according to his need”

        This is the description of a slave and not a equal partner. From each is taken all that he can do. Given to each is his need. People do not need iPhones nor Health Insurance. They Need only food, water, shelter. Air is provided free by God.

        Democracy was demonstrated rather well about a year ago. I was watching video from Egypt. I watched about 15 people get together and vote on what to do with a pickup truck. They voted 14-1 to tear it apart. They then dismantled the truck. They then voted (14-1) to burn the truck. The truck lit the night sky. They then voted (14-1) to beat up the driver. He was later taken to a hospital. Democracy had come to the sands of the Pharaoh.

        In the history of this planet there was only one country that had 100% true democracy, and that was the city state of Athens in ancient Greece…and it failed because of corruption and greed.

        It failed because of democracy. Here is a good clip on several forms of government and why they work/don’t work. Democracy starts at about 5 min into the clip. The whole thing is ~10 min long so I encourage you to watch the whole thing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4r0VUybeXY

        There was never a true communist country, a true republic, or true capitalist society.

        Of course there are. Communism is really a few aristocrats and a bunch of slaves. Someone has to make sure that “from each according to his ability” is enforced.

        Ancient Rome and early US are both true republics. See the link above.

        Ancient Rome was a true capitalist society. (see link above). The US was for a while. Hong Kong was. If you actually play MMOs (and know what that means :) ) you will find several true capitalist societies working just fine.

        Even our republic has become corrupt nearly as soon as it became established. It is my believe that the future will show that none of those so called pure forms is fit to govern societies made up from individuals.

        Our founding fathers warned of this problem too. Our Constitutionally LIMITED Republic only works for a moral and religious people (not stating which religion but the moral part is enough).

        All we really need from the people we give the power of government is that they understand and honor their oath to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic.
        ==============================================================
        First Principle. Your Creator gifted you with life and free will.
        How you use those 2 gifts and how you honor these gifts in others,
        is how you shall be judged

    • DaveH

      Surely, you Liberals jest? I have provided the links ad nauseum, for anybody who wants to learn, that prove those countries with the Biggest Governments consistently have weaker economies.
      If you’re asking me to convince Ignorant people, who don’t want to learn but would rather make ad hominem attacks on anybody who makes statements that their Severely Propagandized minds can’t handle, you’re right — It’s not likely.
      But then, I’m not trying to Convince you Ignorant Liberals. I’m trying to educate those readers who are educable.

  • Jason Johnson

    $220 for a pair of sneakers? Does anyone in that crowd think that $220 could be better spent on an entire ensemble presentable enough for a job interview?

    • John

      What makes you believe they are all unemployed?

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Easy to check the time of the incident. Why don’t you?

  • jopa

    eddie47: I had to look up in Google to see what JeffH was talking about when he mentioned Megans List.He was right on the money as to computers being confiscated and the distance he can live near a school.I would bet $10,000 he is on that list just by some of the vulgar remarks he has made over time.He just had a little bit too much info than the average person would have unless he had some experience with it.

    • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

      jopa, I’m surprised you had to look it up. How about you? Same questions I asked eddie.

      • eddie47

        Still trying to creep people out with your oddball questions Jeff? You are nothing but a professional sheeple to this site and bow down to everything the main articles state. What’s the matter no ability to think for yourself?

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Polly want a cracker? baaarrraaaccckkkk!

  • James

    This is two days in a row we see a propaganda article blaming the victims instead of the real criminals. When are you going to stop trying to turn the people against themselves and start writing articles blaming the real criminals the bankers? We are getting real tired of this constant propaganda lies deflecting the people away from the real issues destroying our country.

    • Dave67

      Thank you James,

      Its the banks that lobby and pay the politicians off to put in their agenda. They wrecked the economy then it was they who got bailed out.

      But the GOP and the right love to blame the little guy consistantly… That is why they will be irrelevant in the coming years. People are tired of their pro-corp agenda at the expense of working people.

      • Vicki

        Dave67 says:

        Its the banks that lobby and pay the politicians off to put in their agenda. They wrecked the economy then it was they who got bailed out.

        Take away the power of government and bankers become…………just bankers. The politicians are currently there cause the people (even the ignorant ones) vote. A major focus of the writers of the articles on this site is to educate the people so that we can better choose people (like Ron Paul) who know what honor is and know what the Constitution says. This is rather necessary to be able to defend the Constitution.

    • DaveH

      James says — “This is two days in a row we see a propaganda article blaming the victims instead of the real criminals. When are you going to stop trying to turn the people against themselves and start writing articles blaming the real criminals the bankers?”
      Because James, it starts with the citizens. If the citizens aren’t educated in matters of morality and freedom, then we have NO CHANCE to stop the Politicians and their Crony Capitalists.
      By the way, James, I think you are surely smart enough to know that not all bankers are Evil, just as not all Progressives are Evil (just most of them, lol). And the Evil Bankers could do nothing without being backed by the coercive force of Big Government.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joev2v Joseph Jr Vanchieri

    I love the idea that this forum says to give your point of view but if they( or their filter ) feel it is inappropriate it won’t be seen.So much for 1st ammendment rights. I use terms that are for discription purposes but they get blanked out. Oh well here it goes. We are all to blame for this entitlement issue. We stand by and say we can’t do anything about the revisionost history our children are taught but we could’ve protested against it and tried to get the truth taught in school.It takes me all of about 30 seconds of talking with a person to kow they are in the teaching profession. The arrogance and self righteousness just flows out of them. Just to explain the way I can tell, I will tell a little story ( Non-fiction ) ( that means true for all you graduates ). My daughters went to a public school. They both have Asthma so they get a little cold it almost always turned into an infection. They would miss more school than the average student but always did the make up work. I started getting threatening mail saying that my child was missing way too much school and if it continued the State would intervene. Needless to say I was livid. They always had doctor excuses but that wasn’t enough. They were ticked that they were missing school. I made an appointment with the school and told them I needed the teachers,principal,nurse and anyone else part of her ” team ” . When I arrived they were all sitting around a confrence table waiting for me. The teacher asked me to sit in the end chair. I chose a different one. At first they all took turns ripping into me about how ” concerned they were about my daughters education. In the end the main subject was the budget and how the taxpayers money ( lol, mine ) was being wasted. After 30 mins. of this I stood up and asked them what the real reason was for their concern because my daughter was caught up and getting A’s and B’s. In the end I told them to end the letters because I know all they were worried about was the ” budget ” and how much State funds they would get. The room went quiet so I asked if they wanted to prove what I said was wrong. They ended the meeting at that point and I never got another letter. Priests, doctors and teachers use to be about the job and improving life. Now days Doctors and teachers are all about the money. Thank God Priests are still the same. A doctor will turn you away no matter how sick you are for the 10.00 co-pay. Ok vented enough for now.

    • DaveH

      Like so many words in the English language, Joseph, the word “revisionism”, while not necessarily bad, has been construed to be. We have all been Propagandized in the Government Schools and by the MSM to believe that a Big Central Government is necessary to our survival. Good for the Leaders and their pals, bad for the rest of us.
      Sometimes “revisionist history” is a good thing. This book, for instance, shines a bright light on the Real Abraham Lincoln, not the fairy-tale “Honest Abe” that we’ve all been taught to worship. Imagine that — an Honest Politician, not likely:
      http://mises.org/store/Real-Lincoln-The-P172.aspx

    • Libertytrain

      I find it tiresome when folks claim their first amendment rights are violated on a privately owned site. Start you own site and if you want foul language have at it —- There are many of us that enjoy a break from those words and here we find it…

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Check in more often and you will find that we vent very well. Technical problems may cause posts to disappear.

    • Vicki

      Joseph take a deep breath and relax. Then read the red text just above the reply box.

      Now while they are working on the problem of disappearing posts just make a copy of your post before pressing the post comment button.

      About the First Amendment. It reads in part “Congress shall make no law…..” Last I checked this is not a government site and it is not affiliated with Congress. Neither the owners/moderators of this site nor the site itself have blocked you from posting on any other site or even creating your own, so I do not understand how you can claim a violation of your first amendment rights.

  • chow

    We went to Rome for sightseeing last year and I remembered the tour guide saying when we were in the Colosseum that the Romans were constantly entertained by the empire and the senate of Rome by watching the games and throwing bread to them to keep them satisfied and fulfilled much like our US empire is doing now.

  • http://gravatar.com/lowlywise lowlywise

    This is not a political problem. Neither is anything gained by taking the attitude of “What are the schools doing or not doing? Now in my day …” followed by an anecdote. I’ll indulge with the anecdote. Once while waiting for a commuter train, I undertook a conversational pleasantry with a youth standing there drinking from a huge paper container of soda pop. I assayed to say something like “Wow! A whole gallon, that’s more pop than I drink in a whole year.” The guy replied, “It’s not a gallon, it’s 64 ounces.” I couldn’t quite believe what I heard, and I said, “that’s right, a whole gallon.” “No, it’s 64 ounces.” This was too much for me, and my somewhat confrontational rejoinder was “64 ounces IS a gallon.” “Oh,” shrugged the youth, “I didn’t ever know that.” I had the good sense to shut up, but in my mind have played out several scenarios taking this further into imagined indictments of education, parenthood, gang mentality, — and what else?

    I think it comes down to an unwillingness to think, to learn to think, and to teach (by our actions) to think. And to defend ourselves against the allure and glamour of irrationality. Part of this could be avoided by some formal instruction in the good ol’ trivium: grammar, logic, and rhetoric. I truly believe that much of the trouble youngsters get into, manifested at extremes like what happened this week in Chardon OH, comes from lack of rigor and structure in the thinking disciplines and the language disciplines. We could shore these up very easily, get kids to think a knight’s move ahead, and give them a consciousness that they always have a choice, that they don’t have to cave in to gut feelings and do or say stupid and hurtful things.

    • Eric Bischoff

      Yes Lowlywise brilliant.

      We could for example switch to learning from the fast video side of our brain which was done a few times in history and created renaissance periods when we still wonder how did this happen. That does not cost anything. There are actually exercises that make your IQ continuously and cumulatively improve. Believe it or not It’s actually better to daydream and visualize solutions than memorize useless crap. Unless of course you are only trying to make mindless factory workers. But that’s not what we need today to solve our crisis is it.

      Check out Win Wenger and the renaissance project http://www.winwenger.com/

      • DaveH

        You and Wenger ought to get together and start your own schools to turn out brilliant kids. Oh wait, you can’t because you have to follow the mind-numbing Progressive curriculum as mandated by Big Government.

    • Vigilant

      When lowly but not wise “assayed to say something like “Wow! A whole gallon, that’s more pop than I drink in a whole year,” you made a tacit judgment, whether you realized it or not. Were you commenting merely as an exchange of “conversational pleasantry,” or were you making a between-the-lines editorial statement about gluttony, obesity, the way things used to be in the good old days, or personal habits?

      I’m surmising that 95% of the people on that subway platform would have perceived that as a mildly confrontational statement, and probably 95% (of all ages) wouldn’t have known that 64 ounces is a gallon.

      Moreover, as long as you want to split hairs, consider that a gallon is a volumetric measure while an ounce is a measurement of weight. It’s the specific gravity of water at 39.2 degrees Fahrenheit that adds up to 64 ounces per gallon. “Pop” has a different specific gravity than water, and the temperature on that platform was probably not 39.2 degrees.

      Is my argument turning ridiculous? Of course it is. The point is that I would no more look down my nose at you for not being familiar with volumetrics and specific gravity than I would fault a kid for not knowing something for which the public at large is equally ignorant.

      When you aver that “my mind…played out several scenarios taking this further into imagined indictments of education, parenthood, gang mentality…,” you took it to a more ludicrous extreme than that which even my argument advanced. Don’t know that 64 ounces is a gallon? My God, that’s gang mentality if I ever heard it!

      • Scott in SC

        Okay, I can’t stand it anymore. There are measurements for both dry and liquid gallons. But the liquid gallon is 128 oz. not 64. If you want to berate today’s youth for not knowing common measurements, please know them yourself.

      • Vigilant

        AHA! Good catch, Scott!

        I didn’t even check on the 64 oz. (half gallon as you say) since it’s not an item of knowledge I have any need to frequently refer to.

        LOL. Both Lowlywise and I were wrong.

        My point remains valid, and allow me to repeat the statement: “Is my argument turning ridiculous? Of course it is. The point is that I would no more look down my nose at you for not being familiar with volumetrics and specific gravity than I would fault a kid for not knowing something for which the public at large is equally ignorant.”

        BTW, thanks for catching that. I assure you I will henceforth be able to remember how many ounces are in a gallon (of water at 4 degrees Celsius).

      • Vigilant

        …and I think Lowlywise’ face has got to be redder than mine! (:-)

      • Vicki

        Vigilant writes:

        BTW, thanks for catching that. I assure you I will henceforth be able to remember how many ounces are in a gallon (of water at 4 degrees Celsius).

        Or the way I caught the error. 16 fl oz to a pint. 2 pints to a quart. 4 quarts to a gallon. It’s a cooking thing :)

  • Buck

    I’m old enough to consider myself a shortimer on planet earth , I am so fed up with the direction we are headed I can’t wait to see it fall , and I hope it is just before I check out so I CAN see it , other than that one hope I am ready to go .

    • Eric Bischoff

      Nice Buck. Screw the kids who cares. And to think we had the gall to call the american indians savages. They actually knew how to live sustainably something we still can’t figure out and are not interested in. Too bad we din’t pick up on their 7 generation principles and women having the final vote.

      • DaveH

        Odd that I’ve never read a comment from Eric about saddling our children and grandchildren with an immense National Debt, when they haven’t even had to chance to vote on the issue.
        It seems that Progressives are only concerned about the children when they can use them as pawns to get their way.

  • dDave Adcock

    THERE IS NOTHING THAT IS FREE AS SOMEONE MUST PRODUCE ALSO THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS EQUAL, WE ALL HAVE ABILITIES ARE ALL ARE NEEDEDTO MAKE THIS COUNTRY STRONG.
    THOSE WHO DON’T WANT TOBE PRODUCTIVE SHOULD GO TO SOME OTHER PLACE IF THEY CAN FIND IT IS BETTER. iF YOU DON’T LIKE AMERICAN FREEDOM THEN LEAVE. AT LEAST IN THIS COUNTRY WE HAVE THAT CHOICE.

  • Eugene Fife Jr

    This whole entitlement mentality is ridiculous. It started when we began providing for people just because they were born. What ever happened to you get what you earn. Or how about… if you don’t contribute… you don’ t benefit. It’s probably too harsh for out “be responsible for everyone” society.

  • http://twitter.com/Deepizzaguy George Bernard Vieto (@Deepizzaguy)

    I wonder how much Nike would charge for a poster of Donna Richardson Joyner promoting her exercise videos?

  • mightyhorn

    RE: “What kind of messages…”
    I teach in a rural high school. Students that don’t “like” a class can simply fill out a change request and change their course. This even applies to “one year” courses.
    It is a concern of mine because we are teaching our students that if they “don’t like” something they can just quit. My concern is that it will transfer to the workplace. How many of us have had a bad day at work and went in the next day because we needed to pay bills, put food on the table, etc?
    My fear is that many of these young people will try jobs only to quit and repeat, followed by long term unemployment.
    mightyhorn

  • OldWriter

    Very POLITICALLY CORRECT but insufficient reporting bit on the story. Nowhere, not one place in the story does if give the racial makeup of these crowds that near -rioted at these stores. I mean, like, who goes bananas over Michael Jordan sneakers? Ever see the video of the same crowd breaking down the doors of a Wal-Mart for a Black Friday sale, and in the process running over the guards at the door and also stepping on some women in the front that fell? How many died that night? I remember when those sneakers came out that lit up in the heel with every step you took. All the Michael Jordan types had to have them, until one night one of them was trying to escape from the police in the woods, and all they had to do was follow his ‘tailights.’ Once that report got into the papers, that was the end of those shoes.

  • same as above but I go by the name of gypsy.

    I think our friend should look up the word entitlement….If he’s talking about social security and medicare, they’re not entitlements, we paid for them all our working lives. I started working when I was 14 and couldn’t retire until I was 70, so all those years, I paid into social security, a lot more than I’ve gotten out of it. I am now 83 and always paid my own way. I got my college education at night and worked during the day. I didn’t get a hand out from the government, I paid for my own education, but by the time I got my degree, I was getting up there in years. During the six years getting an education, I got up for work at 6:00 a.m. and showered and drove to worked and began at 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., then drove to the campus where my classes started at 6:30 p.m. until 10:30 p.m. I drove home, and studied until 3:00 a.m. I slept from 3:00 to 6:00 then started the routine all over again. I wasn’t the only one, night school was filled with people like me who knew the value of an education and were willing to sacrifice to get it. Don’t try to tell me the seniors are responsible for the debt crisis. My generation accomplished more than any other generation and we did it without casting blame on others. We were loyal to our country and if anyone even dared to disrespect our flag, we would have punched him in the mouth and told him how lucky he was just to be in this country. Today, people think nothingt of burning our flag, but they had better not do it in front of me because it will be a day that will go down in infamy. We have had a badly run government, headed by a racist president and a worthless congress and they had better not allow him to raise the debt ceiling another time or we’ll be the newest third world country. Anyone who thinks Obama did a good job is as crazy as he is. He was the worst thing ever to happen to our country and he managed to tear it down in four years. Do we think he should have another four years? ABSOLUTELY NOT. He rode into office on the coat tails of giving everything to illegal aliens at the cost of those who have worked all their lives. He is a BIGOT and we should tar and feather him and run him out of the country on a rail.

  • FreedomFighter

    Latest From the Hill: Congress Criminalizes the Right to Free Assembly; Strips Basic Protections of First Amendment

    http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/congress-criminalizes-the-right-to-assembly-strips-basic-protections-of-first-amendment_02292012

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    Amendment I
    The Constitution of the United States of America
    September 17, 1787

    Our government has gone insane, we are officially in a dictatorship.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • http://www.techsharestone.com Ty O’Toole

    Obama is a Greecer! He and all liberal need to be refered to as Greecers. We should draw on their photos hair combed back on the sides and a curl on the forehead. If these can’t do simple math morons get their way we will soon be Greece.

  • Andre

    Putting senior citizens who PAID INTO social security in the same category as a bunch of kids buying sneakers is just wrong IMO. Social Security is taken out of the working mans/womans paycheck every pay period unlike welfare. So explain to me why senior citizens shouldn’t be entitled to collect from a program that was paid into their whole working lives.

  • DaveH

    Your “facts”, Eric, are just conjecture. They are sweeping generalizations with no explanation as to how the data was collected or what the study parameters were. Most of them are mixing Apples and Oranges — such as this one:
    “the lowest social mobility”. If we have a lack of Social Mobility, it can only be because of Force. Who is allowed Force in this country? Only the Big Government which Progressives like Eric adore. In a Free Society, anybody who wanted to sell their services could do so without the Crony-protecting Licensing Laws and other impediments that are created by Government. In Free Markets the customers would decide who to patronize and who to not patronize. Those companies of people who pleased their customers the best would be the ones who succeeded most. There would be no Crony Capitalists buying protection from competition via their Government Cronies. Anybody, who was willing to put in the sweat, long hours, sacrifice, and take the necessary financial and personal risks, could succeed and become Wealthy.
    That Upward Mobility of which you speak is only stifled by Progressive Leaders and their Ignorant Progressive Followers (which one describes you best, Eric?).

    • Vigilant

      DaveH is right when he says, “And your “facts”, Eric, are just conjecture. They are sweeping generalizations with no explanation as to how the data was collected or what the study parameters were. Most of them are mixing Apples and Oranges…”

      Relying on OECD or the UN for unbiased figures is like relying on the East Anglia folks for objective environmental studies.

      The UN and OECD are admittedly globalist organizations whose missions are to socialize us all into a one world government. Just as the USG massages inflation and unemployment figures to make itself look good, so too do the globalists skew the numbers and lie with statistics.

      Eric cherry picks at his whim, and hopes that you will be wowed with the numbers without looking into them. For example, when he talks about the highest inequality of incomes, he ignores the fact that those countries that spend considerably more than we do on socialist redistribution of wealth are the very countries that have amassed a top heavy debt that cannot be sustained.

      I’ll even refer him to the OECD statistics he’s so fond of at http://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/finance-and-investment/total-central-government-debt_20758294-table1

      Medical statistics he won’t furnish relate to the untimeliness of diagnosis and treatment, lower cancer survival rates and deteriorated health of the Canadian and European populations under national health care regimes.

      However, I’ll grant him one statistic: the highest prevalence of mental health problems. If we could get rid of the progressives, we’d be able to cure that overnight.

    • DaveH

      Here are two articles everybody should read before they take Eric’s lead too seriously:
      http://community.mises.org/hera/2011/11/11/how-the-u-s-will-become-a-3rd-world-country-part-1-2/

  • http://wordpress..com/denotchka Denotchka

    I had to ask the Lord to do smoething aobut me. I’ve suffered fro mthis issue myself. Here’s the real problem- parent smake life too easy for their kids even the disabled. Not al of us are incapable of working. I was in the middle of GOING TO COLLEGE when my dad got me on SSDI to pay for HIS FINANCIAL MISTAKE! I left after watching him drink his check and use mine to pay the bills. I AM ROYALLY TICKED OFF! I AM FURIOUS! I’m only still on it because Ihaven’t gotten back to school yet and i need to go and get the rest of the degrees (yes you heard me DEGREES!- MORE THAN ONE!) to get off of SSDI I plan on paying this stuff back, and getting out of the system! I repent of letting my father do this to me! I should’ve moved out of the house and left him high and dry whenI realized hewasn’t responsible with his own money. Ergo I refuse to encourage ANYBODY’S ADDICTIONS! As a Christian (I’m NOT PERFECT- so don’t jump me, I really feel upset that I’ve been put inthis position because we are told TO WORK- AS IN MAKE A LIVING NOT “PANHANDLE” so-to-speack. 2 Thessalonians 3:1-15. The mpost workI’ve done is minstry and I feel liek an irresponsible brat. I dont buy $200.00 pairs of tennnis shoes and stuff I’m lucky my husband pays the bills, I’m backup basiclaly and it’s not a lot folks. I have been wary of working because it limits how much I can make (I’ve been pretty ticked about that too because I’d prefer to truly work and pay this stuff back!!!!!!

    • Vigilant

      Denotchka, I truly don’t believe anyone on this forum would find fault with you. Your situation was unavoidable, and your heart and head are both in the right places.

  • jopa

    Ty O’Tool;Where have you been? O’bama is mostly Irish and he even made a trip there to visit his ancestral home.I would venture to bet $10,000 your fellow Irish Americans would be insulted by your remarks.

    • DaveH

      Talk about an empty gesture. Which fellows? Who gets to choose? Who oversees your bet? Why $10,000? Why not $1,000,000 since there is no reasonable way to enforce your offer?

  • Illana Olsen

    Chip, just because the NEA and state affiliates are raving liberal idiots, don’t assume all public schools and their teachers think the same way. Many public schools in smaller towns and cities are actually on the conservative side. Please don’t tar and feather us all with the same brush. I do not teacher children to be selfish leaches on society…and neither do my colleagues. I think the problem comes as much or more from the media…and the government…and parents who did not have much of an upbringing themselves and do not know a think about disciplining their children.

  • Bill

    Chip, I’ve nearly always agreed with you, but on this NO WAY. The parents of this generation are totally to blame. We wanted our kids to have what we didn’t and we learned to trust them more than their teachers. Teachers have little discipline and less authority than ever, because the child is always right, in their parent’s eyes . There rests the problem, parents seldom back the teachers, little Johnnie or Susie is always right and teach is wrong. Both my wife and I have taught of years in an open shop state, discipline is deteriorating even without labor unions.

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