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A good rule of thumb to use when evaluating whether you are hearing the truth or a lie is to first stop and consider whether the story makes sense. If it doesn’t make sense, it’s probably not true.

President Barack Obama told Syrian President Bashar Assad just more than a year ago that using chemical weapons on his people would cross a “red line.” It was on Aug. 20, 2012 that Obama made an appearance before the White House press corps and said: “We have been very clear to the Assad regime — but also to the other players on the ground — that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving our or being utilized. That would change my calculus; that would change my equation. We have communicated in no uncertain terms with every player in the region that that’s a red line for us and that there would be enormous consequences if we start seeing movement on the chemical weapons front or the use of chemical weapons.”

On Monday, after reports and video surfaced that purported to show Syrians — including children — suffering the effects of and dying from chemical weapons attacks, the Obama Administration went all in accusing Assad of using chemical weapons on his people. The question we must ask, then, is: Does this make sense?

In Syria’s uncivil war, Assad’s forces were repulsing the al-Qaida rebel forces aligned against them. They had fought them to a standstill at least. This occurred despite the fact that the United States, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and others were supplying them with weapons and materiel. There are even reports that the CIA and non-government “contractors” were training and fighting with the “rebels.”

Assad, a medical school graduate who was training to be an ophthalmologist in London when he was called back to Syria by his father to take a position in government, is a smart man. He certainly understood what Obama meant in his “red line” speech. He understood the universal condemnation that would follow an attack; and he no doubt understands that no matter how big he talks, he would likely meet a fate similar to Saddam Hussein’s were he to provoke the U.S. and its NATO allies into an Iraqi-style invasion.

So what did he have to gain by using chemical weapons on civilians? And what did he have to gain by inviting U.N. inspectors into Syria to investigate the attack, if he ordered it? And what did he have to gain by having his troops fire upon the U.N. inspectors who were on their way to the scene of the attack, as has been intimated in media accounts?

The answer, of course, is he had nothing to gain and everything to lose. So with nothing to gain and everything to lose, it makes no sense that he’s responsible for the gas attacks.

But the rebels have everything to gain by it. They had been stopped. There was no way forward without significant Western intervention. And reports of gas attacks on civilians would give the neocon warmongers and Obama’s handlers cover for ratcheting up operations there. For the al-Qaida-backed rebels and the military-industrial complex, it was a win-win.

But while the mainstream media have jumped on the bandwagon and begun to cheerlead for some kind of response, the American people, by and large, aren’t buying it.

Polls show that only 9 percent of Americans think the United States should involve itself in Syria’s war. About 60 percent of respondents said the U.S. should not intervene. The Syrian people aren’t buying it. And there is strong evidence the gas attacks were the work of the Free Syrian Army rebel forces.

The war-weary American people understand the United States has nothing to gain by involving itself in another Mideast hellhole. There is no good side to the Syrian war.

If Obama and his warmongering Congressional allies can provide justification for another war, they should make the case before Congress. Then, per Article 1, Section 1 of the Constitution, Congress shall have the power to declare war — and bear responsibility for the action. That would be a net gain for the Constitution and the rule of law.

Personal Liberty

Bob Livingston

founder of Personal Liberty Digest™, is an ultra-conservative American author and editor of The Bob Livingston Letter™, in circulation since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • independent thinker

    There are three or perhaps four possibilities here.
    1. Assad does not care and gassed the people.
    2. Assad gassed the people thinking he could get the rebel forces blamed for it.
    3. The mooselum brotherhood gassed the people hoping the blame would be put on the more moderate rebel groups or more likely Assad.
    4. The more moderate rebels gassed the people hoping the blame was put on Assad.
    Of the four I think number three most likely with number two coming in second.

    • bjeanfreau7

      yeah, probably #3. The first 2 are just ridiculous!

      • independent thinker

        Ridiculous? NO. Highly unlikely YES especially #1.

    • Vigilant
      • Vis Fac

        YUP We’re being played: AGAIN. Liberals believe they are in tune yet their omnipotence/moral fiber clouds their ability to sort out the truth.

        The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

        A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

        Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
        to eat for lunch with the well armed lamb contesting the vote. Liberty comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote.”

        A democratic government that respects no limits on its power is a ticking time bomb, waiting to destroy the rights it was created to protect.

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est

        Semper-Fi

  • nancy anderson

    Obama won’t “do” this the right way. he has no warriors in his cabinet who know how to fight & all his generals are pc libs

  • IsThisAmerica

    Their all a bunch of crazy lunatics over there. Don’t get involved, let them kill each other. No missing them here. They have been fighting and infighting since the dawn of time! It will never change!

  • peter

    Obama will give the order on Thursday to send in the cruise missiles and then head on to that place somewhere in Scandinavia where they give away peace prizes. He needs a new one as the other one is a little tarnished now.

  • PurePropaganda

    If this isn’t a “staged picture” , I don’t know what is ! All in picture appear to be men with arms folded – probably aren’t even dead – dead people are ghostly white within minutes, these guys aren’t – Most often the dead are in body bags very soon – where are they ? This is pure propaganda for news purposes.

  • CCblogging

    America needs to stay out of these endless Muslim civil wars. There are no good side in this fight. However, Assad did not persecute Christians but Obama’s and John McCain’s so called freedom fighters are killing Christians in Syria. I beleive that Obama’s and McCain’s jihadists gassed those people. Obama is in on this deception.

    • Alan

      Russia has also told us to stay out of Syria. Do we really have to risk WW3 ?

      • Don 2

        Russia and China have told us to stay out. One thing is for sure Alan, this isn’t going to end well.

  • Don 2

    Hell, at this point, after all of Obama’s obvious lies and cover-ups, Assad has more credibility than Obama.

    Sarah Palin said it best, “Let Allah sort it out.”

  • Warrior

    Too few jobs, too many people. Time again for a great “culling”. World economy is on the “fritz” and as past lessons have taught, the “powers to be” will do what they have always done. Start some mass “Killings”.

    • Bill

      Good analogy, Warrior,
      This is Obama’s answer to creating jobs. Either he is too stupid to know that jobs are created by promoting the private sector, or his does not give a crap

      • Vis Fac

        He doesn’t give a crap for anything other than his agenda. Think about it growing up in third world countries and seeing all we have and he being Muslim caused hi to see the US as an enemy. What better position to ruin the US than from within?

        I am sure he being a foreign student liberal dogma allowed him access to educational opportunities otherwise unavailable to others I believe ODUMBO might have had handlers somewhere in the shadows assisting in his political rise to power. Being a “junior senator” made him visible to the public. There is no doubt DUMBO is charismatic a slick snake oil salesman slicker than “Slick Willie”

        Now as POTUS having fooled most of the nation “TWICE” ODUMBO is in a position to finish the job These words keep haunting me –“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.– Abraham Lincoln

        Step back and pause a little and see that we are indeed now destroying ourselves!

        The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

        A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

        Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
        to eat for lunch with the well armed lamb contesting the vote. Liberty comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote.”

        A democratic government that respects no limits on its power is a ticking time bomb, waiting to destroy the rights it was created to protect.

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est

        Semper-Fi

        • Elevenarrows

          I agree, Force Recon, except for the part about most of us being fooled twice. I, personally, believe the election results were as much of a joke as his oath to uphold the Constitution. I haven’t trusted election results for many years now.

          • Vis Fac

            Most were fooled twice he was re-elected wasn’t he?

            The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

            A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

            Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
            to eat for lunch with the well armed lamb contesting the vote. Liberty comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote.”

            A democratic government that respects no limits on its power is a ticking time bomb, waiting to destroy the rights it was created to protect.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est

            Semper-Fi

          • Elevenarrows

            Only if you believe that our elections are tamper-proof which would seem a bit naive for you, Recon. I don’t think there are that many foolish Americans (although there are many!). I honestly think Obama and his cronies tampered with results. He got away with dead people voting for him the first time! With no consequences for voter fraud and no genuine investigation regarding his birth certificate, foreign student aid application, suspicious social security number, etc., do you really think he would not do whatever it took to get elected again?!

            Of course, Romney didn’t look much different and didn’t offer a good alternative.

          • Vis Fac

            To think that elections are “tamper proof” would be naive. We all know this is not the case however thanks to liberal one dimensional idiot-ology we have become a dumbed down nation dependent on lame stream media who reports otherwise. Add to the mix a dash of apathy then indeed MOST people are foolish.

            Fools sit idly by and let things happen as they have for decades only a handful object and we are quickly dismissed as insignificant malcontents morons or any other pejorative they wish to describe us. Then society goes merrily on their way oblivious to the destruction of our nation and usurpation of OUR Constitution and Personal Liberties

            In this sense yes MOST have been fooled a second time.

            America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.– Abraham Lincoln

            The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

            A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

            Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
            to eat for lunch with the well armed lamb contesting the vote. Liberty comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote.”

            A democratic government that respects no limits on its power is a ticking time bomb, waiting to destroy the rights it was created to protect.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est

            Semper-Fi

        • TheOriginalDaveH
  • Vigilant

    “…the Obama Administration went all in accusing Assad of using chemical weapons on his people. The question we must ask, then, is: Does this make sense?…So with nothing to gain and everything to lose, it makes no sense that [Assad]’s responsible for the gas attacks.”

    It may not make sense to the superficial minds of people who don’t care to follow up hunches with research.

    From http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/08/is_iran_behind_the_syria_gas_atrocity.html

    “The sarin nerve gas atrocity of Wednesday, Aug. 21, alleged to have claimed more than 1,000 lives, was the work of the 155th Brigade of the Syrian army’s 4th Division, headed by President Bashar Asad’s younger brother Gen. Maher Assad.

    The poison gas shells were fired from the big Mount Kalmun army base south of Damascus, one of the three repositories of Syria’s chemical weapons. … Not a single shell or gram of poison gas is loaded for use at any of the three sites without an explicit directive from the president or his brother. … Therefore, the clamor raised by the US and French presidents, Western prime ministers and Russian leaders … is nothing but playacting. The facts are known and the evidence is present. And the price for refusing to come down to earth and putting an immediate stop to this horrifying precedent may be unimaginably grim — not just for Israel and Jordan — but for the rest of the Middle East and beyond.”

    • Guest3

      This entire episode seems to be another convoluted plan with an agenda only this administration understands. There is an end result they ‘think’ would serve their purposes of destroying all religions and peace-seeking peoples of the middle east. I don’t buy this episode; just another larger version of Benghazi….and the truth will prevail. Stay away from Syria.

    • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Vigilant,

      You write: “It may not make sense to the superficial minds of people who don’t care to follow up hunches with research.” The source for the article you linked is Debka, the propaganda arm of the Israeli military. I wouldn’t hang my hat on their reporting. Perhaps you failed to consider Jerome Corsi’s reporting that I linked above. http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/video-shows-rebels-launching-gas-attack-in-syria/?cat_orig=politics

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Vigilant

        “The source for the article you linked is Debka, the propaganda arm of the Israeli military. I wouldn’t hang my hat on their reporting.”

        The sources for the articles to which you link are “former PLO member and native Arabic-speaker Walid Shoebat,” the UN and Russian Arabic-language channel RT Arabic. Sterling and credible sources in your mind, not in mine. If you think the Israelis have an agenda, then you’ve got to concede that the PLO (former or current) and Russia have an agenda in spades.

        In short, your sources are no more or less legitimate than mine. The sole difference is that you steadfastly and categorically reject ANYTHING uttered by the USG or Israel. I don’t

      • Vigilant

        The superficiality of this article, and every response so far, is evident in the fact that the KEY to everything happening in Syria, that four letter word “Iran,” has remained unmentioned.

        “Obama has retreated time and time again, in the face of clear and present danger from [Iranian] mullahs who preach martyrdom with nukes and long-range missiles. They threaten not just Israel, but the Arab oil regimes that have been Iran’s deadly enemy for a thousand years. When Obama pushed over Hosni Mubarak’s regime in Egypt, the pillar of peace in the Middle East, the mullahs saw their chance to forge a Shi’ite Crescent between Iran, Syria, and Lebanon, all controlled by Tehran.

        “The purpose is to surround Israel with thousands of modern missiles armed with chemical and possibly nuclear weapons. It is also to knock down the Turks (who are Sunnis), the Egyptians (ditto), and most of all, the House of Saud, sitting on the biggest pool of usable oil in the world. In Arabia, very small tribes control enormous oil wealth.

        “Arabia is the biggest strategic objective for Iran.

        “Iran’s war theocracy plus oil means world power.”

        http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/08/is_iran_behind_the_syria_gas_atrocity.html

        One can never hope to understand ANYTHING in Syria by treating it as if it’s occurring in a vacuum.

    • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Vigilant,

      Former UN weapons inspector says it doesn’t make sense. UN says it’s suspicious.

      Rolf Ekeus, a former U.N. weapons inspector declared his suspicion about the reports, saying “It would be very peculiar if it was the government to do this at the exact moment the international inspectors come into the country….at the least, it wouldn’t be very clever.” Not only did the attack take place at the very time U.N. weapons inspectors arrived in Syria, but it took place in very close proximity to where the inspection teams are currently working. The number of people killed is also a source of confusion. Initial reports estimated that somewhere near two hundred people were killed. Other reports have surfaced estimating the number dead to be well over one thousand. Even further reports have declared that only dozens of people were killed. Ake Sellstrom, the leader of the United Nations weapons inspection team in Syria, said that he had only seen television images of the alleged attack and that “the high numbers of wounded and dead they are speaking about sounds suspicious.” While it remains unclear whether the Syrian government even possesses chemical weapons, Carla Del Ponte, a United Human Rights Investigator confirmed that the opposition indeed has chemical weapons, and has used them. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d67_1377185497

      In short, we are being sold a bill of goods.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Vigilant

        ” While it remains unclear whether the Syrian government even possesses chemical weapons, Carla Del Ponte, a United Human Rights Investigator confirmed that the opposition indeed has chemical weapons, and has used them.”

        “The best evidence shows the gas atrocity was conducted by Syria’s ruler brother Maher Assad. The control of Syria’s chemical weapons is not a secret to Western intelligence. All the nonsense about a UN investigation is playacting to keep Western audiences deceived.” http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/08/is_iran_behind_the_syria_gas_atrocity.html

      • speedle

        I have the same suspicions Bob. It just doesn’t make sense that Assad (given the acute state of mind that he must be in with this crisis) would be subject to such a massively stupid (political) move as to gas people. It’s not like it is an effective battle tactic, and the political ramifications are potentially calamitous to his entire cause.

        Something smells awfully rotten in Damascus. It’s hard to tell if someone is punking the punkable Obama, trying to draw him into the fray, or if there is something far more sinister afoot (like another diversion from the scandals and the upcoming Obamacare fight. Makes you wanna go hmmmm.

    • chuckb

      Vigilant, I agree with your contention, however, the article you refer to by the American Thinker is no more than conjecture on their part.
      There’s no doubt in my mind, If this was true this administration would jump all over it in their quest to start another war. Al Qaeda is behind this phony video and Barry is taking the opportunity to use this in a way parallel to the Benghazi video. This action by Barry covers up the scandals involving his administration, it changes the conversation.and at the same time assists the Muslim Brotherhood in capturing another country.

  • Doc Sarvis

    President Obama is backed into a corner. He will be widely criticized no matter what path he takes. My feeling is that we don’t have enough information to act, any action or inaction will not change the situation in Syria, any military action taken will do more harm (globally) than good.

  • Doc Sarvis

    President Obama is backed into a corner. He will be widely criticized no matter what path he takes. My feeling is that we don’t have enough information to act, any action or inaction will not change the situation in Syria, any military action taken will do more harm (globally) than good.

    • Vigilant

      He’s most certainly painted himself into that corner. His irresolute, feckless and impotent “foreign policy” has largely resulted in the situation we see today in the M.E.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Foreign policy is not one person’s plan for future relations with another country or set of countries. Foreign policy is a rapidly evolving set of decisions based on what is happening in many places in the world over a long period of time. It is influenced by many things such as the history, resources (natural, financial, and military), politics, national expectations, and leader personalities of many places near and far. Many of these variables are also unknowns in many situations. The variables extend to internal factors in our own country which the President/Administration may have only tenuous information on.
        Being backed into a corner can have as many or more external factors contributing to it than what the administration controls.

        • Don 2

          Don’t you know Sarvis, it’s Bush’s fault!

          • Doc Sarvis

            You said it – I didn’t.

          • Don 2

            Sure, why not? It’s as big of a joke as playing the race card, you can keep your doctor, man-made global warming, cap and trade, and hope & change.

        • Vigilant

          Sarvis, you just painted yourself into a corner.

          Obama’s “plan for future relations with another country” was stated very clearly a year ago when he began to talk about the “red line.”

          In doing so, he severely limited his options, now that sarin has been used. Personally, I hope that he bides his time on this, but that’s unlikely since it’s now personal with him, and he fears to be perceived as a person who cries “wolf.”

          Your mealy-mouthed discourse on foreign policy looks more like a textbook explanation than a confrontation with reality.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          What a load, Doc. The reality is that the Leaders benefit by gaining more Power, and by feathering the nests of their Crony Capitalists who return the favor. The only deep thinking they do is — how best can they deceive the public?

    • Don 2

      So, if Odumbo launches an air attack on Assad’s forces, I guess that makes us al-Qaida’s Air Force.

  • Bill

    The story does not make any sense, if you are a thinking intelligent person. If you are a dumbed down sheep, it would be an easy sell.
    As usual, we are just getting the dog and pony show from the media which is far from the truth.

    • http://www.OlGreyGhost.Blogspot.com/ Ol’ Grey Ghost

      When I was in grade school, I had a classmate that was very unorganized. Following a habit he had probably brought with him from home, whenever he removed his jacket, the poor thing would follow the course of gravity to end up lying on the floor where ever he was standing at the time. He was constantly losing track of it and would whine to the teacher that he had lost it, again.

      She berated him once in front of the whole class for his carelessness and suggested he should put his jacket in the right place at the right time just like another student who was neater than he was and she named yours truly as an example.

      Guess whose jacket suddenly and magically grew legs and started ending up in all the wrong places at all the wrong times. At any moment that I turned my back on it, my jacket would be found on the other side of the room across the hamster cage or other inconvenient location.

      The teacher, to add insult to injury, then lamented that she had held me up as a model for the class, not because she had made me a target for retaliation by a person or persons who were intentionally trying to sabotage my reputation, but because I was “obviously not a good example to follow.”

      What does my little story have to do with the case at hand? If one is a “thinking, intelligent person,” then one will figure out the connection. If one is “a dumbed down sheep,” then I have just wasted my time and a lot of digital ink sharing it with y’all…

  • dan

    lies and subterfuge…Benghazi was about Sarin to the Brotherhood .
    Just wait unti they get there hands on the Syrian stockpile.

  • Guest7
    • Vis Fac

      If the people hadn’t been dumbed down by liberal one dimensional indoctrination camps masquerading as public schools and didn’t need to depend on lame stream media ODUMBO would have never won the election.

      The New World Order has replaced Order in the world where propaganda and control had less of an effect but now this NWO has allowed for control by proxy via lame stream media. I once thought journalist had a sense of responsibility and some integrity Today I see them as a stupid political mouth piece selling out to the highest bidder.

      The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

      A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

      Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
      to eat for lunch with the well armed lamb contesting the vote. Liberty comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote.”

      A democratic government that respects no limits on its power is a ticking time bomb, waiting to destroy the rights it was created to protect.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est

      Semper-Fi

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Thanks, Guest7.

  • native blood

    I would say that a good toxicology report would be needed to conform whether a persistent or non-persistant agent was used against the victims. I doesn’t make sense one could handle the bodies of those fallen as their cadavers would be toxic by secretions that the VN or VX SARIN causes. By obtaining a chemical analysis of the agent, one could extrapolate where the agent may have originated. Collection of dispersant fragment may give clues as well. Whom ever engaged the inspection team obviously did not want the evidence to be found.

    Other than a few eyewitnesses and photos, we can only rely on speculation at best.

  • TheTruthHurtsAsWell

    No blood for oil… familiar mantra, yes? Obama is not the first, nor will he be the last

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27état

    http://youtu.be/THlaMUq6MKU

  • TheOriginalDaveH
  • WTS/JAY

    “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”

    -William Casey, CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

  • WTS/JAY

    Obama DOJ Asks Court to Grant Immunity to George W. Bush For Iraq War

    In court papers filed today (PDF), http://warisacrime.org/sites/afterdowningstreet.org/files/Certification%20of%20Scope%20of%20Employment.pdf the United States Department of Justice requested that George W. Bush, Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice and Paul Wolfowitz be granted procedural immunity in a case alleging that they planned and waged the Iraq War in violation of international law…

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/obama-doj-asks-court-to-grant-immunity-to-george-w-bush-for-iraq-war/5346637

  • William James Ward

    Nothing is as it is portrayed by the media and by the Obama
    regime. Islamist killers will kill anyone for a gain, even the
    people living in zones opposed to Assad that they are supposed
    to be aligned with. It happened in Kosovo, I saw people that
    were lined up in their best clothing to receive food and were
    killed by bombs planted by jihadists, torn to pieces and for a
    show, blaming the non-Islamist government. We gain nothing
    by helping our enemies and that is who both sides of the
    conflict are, Obama will make the circumstances worse for America.
    Obama will give and excuse for and attack on Israel and send
    the entire Middle East into a devastating war………………William

  • mnkysnkle

    Barry’s making stupid mistakes now cause Egypt and Syria are wise to his lies. His muslim brotherhood and el CIAda associates are getting what they deserve from the Arab people, and they are doing a good job so far in keeping them at bay. Which is putting a block to his agenda. Slowly the American people are waking up and are trying to put a stop to his shenanigans. He’s running blind now and will make another deadly mistake. It will be deadly for us or for him. I just hope it will be another article of impeachment for him.