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What Training Monkeys Can Teach Us About Congress

April 29, 2011 by  

What Training Monkeys Can Teach Us About Congress

Many thanks to the Alert Reader who sent me the following story about monkeys. I think you’ll agree, it has important lessons for us about how to make changes in Washington.

Start with a cage holding five monkeys. Hang a banana from the top of the cage and underneath it, put some stairs going up. Before long, a monkey will start climbing the stairs to get the banana.

When he does, spray cold water on all of the monkeys. The first monkey will scamper into a corner. But after a while, another monkey will start climbing the stairs. When he does, spray all the monkeys with cold water again.

Do this a few more times when a monkey tries to climb the stairs and pretty soon you won’t need any water. As soon as a monkey gets on the stairs, the other monkeys will stop him.

At this point, remove one of the monkeys and replace him with a new one. The new monkey will see the banana and start climbing the stairs. To his surprise, the other four monkeys will grab him and start beating him up. After two or three efforts to get the banana with the same thing happening, pretty soon he’ll give up, too.

When that happens, replace another of the original five monkeys with a new one. Not knowing any better, he’ll try to get the banana. But as soon as he starts climbing the stairs, all of the other monkeys – including the previous newcomer – will start beating him.

When the new monkey has been trained not to try for the banana, replace another of the original monkeys and repeat the process. After three more switches, all of the original monkeys will be gone. None of the ones that remain will have ever been sprayed with cold water.

But here’s the amazing thing: None of them will try to get the banana. Each one knows that if he does, the other four will beat the crap out of him. Why? They have no idea. They just know that’s the way it has always been.

The Straight Talk reader who sent me the story said the moral is obvious: This is how Congress operates. And it explains why, from time to time, YOU HAVE TO REPLACE ALL OF THE MONKEYS.

Right now, the banana is deficit reduction. Everybody wants to reach for it… or at least say they want to. Heck, even our President recently declared:

“We have to live within our means, reduce our deficit and get back on a path that will allow us to pay down our debt.”

Like many of his predecessors in the Oval Office, President Barack Obama has mastered the art of saying the right thing – while most of the time doing the exact opposite. There has not been a single second since he took office that he has demonstrated the slightest interest in living within our means, or reducing the deficit or paying down our national debt. Just the opposite, in fact.

I didn’t have the stomach to watch Obama’s speech about the deficit he delivered at George Washington University two weeks ago. It was all I could do to read it the next day. I didn’t expect much in the way of honesty, humility or contrition. But even I was shocked by the partisan bitterness of his remarks.

Rather than applaud Republican efforts to reduce the deficits, or acknowledging the amazing courage of Rep. Paul Ryan and a handful of his colleagues for putting such sacred cows as Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security on the table, the president declared that his opponents were heartless monsters who would pit “children with autism or Down’s syndrome” against “every millionaire and billionaire in our society.”

As the Wall Street Journal noted, “Mr. Obama then packaged his poison in the rhetoric of bipartisanship – which ‘starts,’ he said, ‘by being honest about what’s causing our deficit.’ The speech he delivered was dishonest even by modern political standards.”

The Journal is being too kind. Obama’s speech about the deficit just may be the most dishonest assemblage of bluff, bluster and baloney that I have ever read. But we can at least thank our vice president for one of the lighter moments of what was a very dark occasion. In case you missed it, Joe Biden slept through much of his boss’s speech.

I kid you not. You can see it on YouTube by clicking here. And don’t believe anyone who tells you the VP was merely thinking deeply about what his boss was saying. I’ve slept through enough boring lectures myself to know he’s asleep, for crying out loud.

Would that you and I could take this same easy way out to ignore all of our president’s dishonest posturing and phony promises. But we can’t. Unless we force Congress to change, we are going to be willing participants in one of the greatest crimes in U.S. history: saddling our children and our children’s children with a debt they will never be able to pay off.

The promises made by the Federal government to its citizens – the so-called “unfunded liabilities” that are already written into law – now come to more than $100 trillion. And there is not a single cent set aside to pay them. Not one copper penny.

Even Social Security is bankrupt. You must understand that there is no money in the horribly misnamed Trust Fund. Every dollar a young worker pays in today is sent out immediately to an older retiree. All that the worker will have to show for 40 or 50 years of contributions will be some IOUs.

By the way, the idea that the “rich” in this country aren’t paying their fair share is absolutely preposterous. The top 1 percent of taxpayers in this country earns about 11 percent of the income. So you’d expect them to pay 11 percent of the taxes, right? Not at all: The top 1 percent of taxpayers pays more than twice that amount. They account for 22 percent of all income taxes collected. Meanwhile, the bottom 50 percent of the population pays nothing. In fact, the vast majority of them are net tax recipients.

Wasn’t one of the founding principles in America that we are all supposed to be equal before the law? Please tell me, what is “equal” about a tax rate that is many times higher for a successful person than someone who is not? Has anyone ever heard of the truism that if you want more of something, subsidize it? But if you want less of something, tax it? Apparently, our would-be masters in Washington want more people on the dole. And fewer paying the taxes that make it all possible.

In case you’ve forgotten, our Founding Fathers made a progressive income tax illegal for the first 137 years of this country’s existence. This vital element of Karl Marx’s Communist Manifesto wasn’t inflicted on us until 1913, when a devious conspirator named Edward Mandell House got his puppet Woodrow Wilson to throw his support behind the Sixteenth Amendment.

But here’s the amazing thing: The vast majority of legislators who voted for the darned thing had no idea what they were doing. Sound impossible? Not at all. Let me quote every word in that amendment; then you tell me what you think it says:

“The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.”

And that’s it. Those 30 words are all it took to unleash the monstrous tyranny of our present tax system on us. Do you see anything there that says, “Hey, Congress, we really think Karl Marx had the right idea. Let’s sock it to the ‘rich’ with a progressive income tax.”

Of course not. The people who would enslave us were not any more honest 100 years ago than Barack Obama and his supporters are today.

Thank goodness, a whole bunch of Americans are catching on. As Howard Beal said, they’re mad as hell. And they’re not going to take anymore.

Neither should you.

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • Vigilant

    Outstanding article, Mr. Wood.

    Biden’s slumber is symbolic of what most of America is doing right now. The “takers,” fat, dumb and happy, are sleeping through the fire that’s burning the house down. And the RINO/Dem. Fire Dept. is on strike.

    • Elaine James

      Yes, Obama’s speech was so boring that it put Biden to sleep. I saw Biden sleeping during Obama’s speech as the camera scanned the audience. I thought to myself, even Biden knows that Obama is doing a lot of talking but not saying anything that he hasn’t already heard. Yes, Congress and the Senate is full of trained monkeys!!! And Obama is ahead of them all! And, I see nothing racist in my remark! We do need to clean both houses and elect people that are not in governmental positions to feather their own nests while their constituents are just bearly getting by. We don’t need to tax employers heavier! That is the socialist way of running a government! Capitalist governments and societies are much wealthier. People are naturally greedy and power hungry. However, some people are not controlled by the desire for power and the desire to grab all of the money they can get their hands on. It is people who are not controlled by the sin nature, that we need in congress and the senate and as the President of the United States. Unfortunately, there are more people in politics who are driven by greed and who are power hungry!!!

  • http://www.diyyardandhome.com Dan

    Is this article saying Obama is a well trained monkey? You know we can’t say that, it’s raciest according to the liberals but who pays attention to them.

    • Robert Wayne

      Who cares Dan? I’ve gotten way past the point of being concerned if some liberal retard pulls out the race card because I despise Obama. He’s the worst president this country has ever had, although Lincoln, Lyndon Johnson, and Carter do give him a run for the money. And his supporters are so stupid that they can’t even make a believable phony birth certificate for him.

      • Bob

        Don’t forget the dictator FDR – the one who set up the socialist insecurity ponzi scheme, gave impetus to the liberal agenda, and helped the communists enslave tens of millions of people.

        • Rufus

          Wom ww2 oh yea he beat nazi, people you guys take your dogma from. Sorry, I forgot.

          • Vigilant

            Rufus,

            After seeing a number of your posts, I would put you in the trained monkey class, as your leftist programming has kept you from reading the history your masters would like to suppress. Then again, it’s possible that your IQ is so low that you have difficulties feeding yourself, let alone writing a coherant sentence.

            “Wom ww2 oh yea he beat nazi, people you guys take your dogma from. Sorry, I forgot.”

            You can’t forget what you never knew. Since I doubt your reading abilities, have a mature adult read to you the Nazi Party Platform from 1925. There’s a reason it was called SOCIALISM, the philosophy near and dear to Chairman Obama.

            The term Nazi derives from the first two syllables of “Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei,” or “National Socialist German Workers’ Party.”

            As for FDR, Bob is entirely correct in his statement that FDR “helped the communists enslave tens of millions of people.” You might want to research the Yalta conference to see how FDR gave away Eastern Europe to Stalin. Then again, an idiot like you might not want to do so, since it belies your screed, and proves that history is indeed the most “inconvenient truth” for those who wish to remain ignorant.

          • Christin

            Vigilant,

            WELL STATED !

          • Carlucci

            Wow Vigilant. Excellent post. You rock.

          • Harold Olsen

            Now, now, Vigilant, musn’t mock the afflicted, even though it’s deserving.

          • Vigilant

            Thank you friends, one and all!

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Vigilant__Go VIG!

          • JeffH

            Good one Vigilant. Had a hunting dog named “Rufus” once. Lost him out hunting quail when he flushed a big covey…wasn’t sure if he was scared from the flushing covey of quail or the shotgun blast. Either way, we searched for two days straight and couldn’t find him. Three weeks later I got a call from another hunter, “Rufus” had a collar with ID and phone number on it, who said he found ole “Rufus” dead, stiff as a board up a tree. Whatever happened that day, I figure ole “Rufus” was scared to death. Never could decide whether it was the noise from the flushing birds or the shotgun blast. Oh well, never will name another dog “Rufus” again.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Hey Jeffh, My dad had a similar story, he and his Brothers went for Pheasant, and Jipper our Beagle went with him on his first hunt. They let him outta the truck, and Jip took off into the neighboring field, and ended up flushing Pheasants on the side of the road, ya couldn’t hunt on!__Lol

          • http://?? Joe H.

            vigilant,
            you know, I had a coon hound named Rufus. all you had to do was show him the pelt streacher and he’d tree a coon to fit it!! Problem was, My old wife got out the ironing board and we never saw him again!!! guess he thought if there were coons THAT big, well he was getting out of there!!

          • Vigilant

            Joe,

            Great! LOL!

          • Jay

            Vigilant, the voice of reason!

        • Nadzieja Batki

          He couldn’t have done the socialist mischief all by himself, there were already enough busybodies and sobsisters and human parasites among the populace that wanted other people to support them.

          • Void1972

            President Roosevelt had seventy-two advisers around him of which fifty two were Jews, and to make matters worse most of them were foreign born.
            Do you think they had any influence in the policy making decisions to create socialist programs in America?
            Medicare, social security and welfare were just a few of the entitlement policy’s that now have helped bankrupt America.
            These so called Jews have held key positions for decades, twisting both America’s foreign policy as well as its domestic policy to meet their ends and the ends of Israel. These Jews are Communist and hide behind the Religion as a shield against American attacks. They do not worship God, as they only trust in Gold, Oil, Diamonds, Their true G,O,D.
            They control all media, Hollywood, Wallstreet, Banks and most Politicians.
            The American black is now working very closely with them, and are the new Communist movement in America.
            Go against them and a ACLU will attack. You will be labeled an anti-semite or racist!
            These are the evil men that are pushing one world government, and will stop at nothing to gain full control of our freedoms.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Void,
            I have a good number of Jewish friends that I’ve known for years, and all but one of them has always held a job for at least 20 years, just plain working stiffs like you and me! The one that hasn’t is 19 years old and is in college, working almost full time and is pulling a straight 4 point!!! I’d say she is a damn hard worker, what about you??

        • Conservative at Birth

          You are forgetting Woodrow Wilson, and I would also add Andrew Jackson for what he did to my ancestors the Cerokee Indians.

          • Vigilant

            Yes, Andrew Jackson is the darling of many because he took on the national banking interests, and they forget (or don’t know) that his horrendous treatment of the tribes, against the specific ruling of the Supreme Court, was brutal.

        • CJM

          When social security was set up, so were the work camps that put people back on the jobs. FDR’s original intent was to make social security temporary and the work camps (CCC) permanent–but congress made the switch, not FDR. FDR may not have been the best President the US ever had, and neither was Raegan; however, both had good qualities as a President so should not be villified in the manner that obama richly deserves.

          • Pathfinder

            When the retirement age of sixtyfive was first established, more than half of the populace died before reaching that retirement age. This was a clever ruse on the part of government to collect a “retirement” tax while expecting most of the tax payers to die before ever having a chance to collect. Unfortunatly for the politicians, the citizens began to live longer so that now the politicians have to keep their promises. This is why they want to raise the retirement age. They want us to DIE so that they will not have to pay up.

      • Tom from Idaho

        Mr. Wayne, I don’t care either, what color the dictator-in-chief is. He is, at best, the most anti-American, lawless, authoritarian, dishonest president (if you care to call him that) that I’ve ever seen. None of the past presidents in my lifetime, Carter and Nixon included, even comes close to how bad this individual is. I shudder to think of what he will do to this country in the next two years, let alone if he gets re-elected. I do not think that this country will survive another four years with him in the white House. I just wonder why there is not at least a grassroots movement afoot for impeachment of this demagogue. He certainly has committed enough impeachable offenses. He needs to be gone ASAP.

        • Christin

          Tom from Idaho,
          I couldn’t agree with you more.
          Well said.

          I think many are afraid of going up against TPTB who put the Chicago thug in the WH and design obamer’s moves to bring about the NWO. It is a strong evil power for sure.

        • combatvet

          I also live in Idaho and while it’s great to vent on these web site boards, the spineless coward traitors in DC, starting with the mulatto traitor in the White House, must be removed, not by words and certainly not by the election process, ruled by massive fraud, but by arresting and prosecuting them all by whatever means necessary. Jefferson said that “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” The tyrants in our country are spineless cowards, while true patriots are battle hardened and armed to the teeth. The greatest criminals in American history exist in the White House, the Congress, the Judiciary and in state and local governments. They make people on death row seem rather benign by comparison. There isn’t anyone on death row that is guilty of the willful killing of a nation of over 300 million people. We soldiers took an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC………..The number one enemy of America is our own government and the progressive communists we’ve allowed to breath our air.

          The government is pushing the people over a cliff. The people must decide whether to jump or push the government over the cliff. If you care about your loved ones, this only one choice. Our founders gave us the prescription to overcome tyranny, our current government, in the Declaration and the Constitution. If they were alive today we be forming a new Continental Army. I believe the military, if given the choice, will back their veteran brothers, families and the people, who are they actually work for.

          Think about it, where has talk gotten us, nowhere, thats where. Our freedoms and liberty are gone and our sacred Constitution is violated on a daily basis. Every single one of these parasites in our tyrannical government are guilty of treason and sedition. The question remains, when is enough, enough!

          • Elaine James

            Unfortunately, there are a lot of greedy retards that voted the liberal congress people and Senators and Obama into office!!

          • Void1972

            Combat
            You are right on the money!
            Will our service men follow orders when told to fire on us?
            I pray not!

          • Christin

            combatvet,
            WE THE PEOPLE have had enough… no jumping off the cliff for us.
            What’s the plan of action to push them out of our government and take it back?
            Thank you for your service to our country.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Combatvet:

            Great post! And thank you for your service.

            I just bought a tee shirt with that very quote on it. You can get one at patriotdepot.com

            They are down in GA and have great products and good service.

            In my fuzzy old mind I see Little Barry pulling the Marshall Law trick in about 16 or 17 months if the polls show him as outta there in November of 2012. That will cancel the election and put the military in charge across the nation.

            This half-breed Kenyan has no intention of ever leaving our WH.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Old Henry,
            you can also get pocket sized copies of the constitution there, I bought seven and then twelve more. A good Idead would be for ALL of us to get a copy and all of us send one to Nobummer and our reps and see if they get the message!!! you’ll be helping a small company stay in business, as well!!!!

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            JoeH:

            Yes, I have purchased some copies of the Constitution from them. You have a good idea regarding Little Barry, but he will probably simply throw it into a fireplace in OUR WH.

            I have purchased several tee shirts from Patriot Depot. (Do we now pronounce the “T”?)

          • DaveH

            Void,
            I think the answer to your question lies in the blantantly Unconstitutional action in Libya. Servicemen swear to uphold the Constitution. Yet they are still there.
            Remember the most important part of their brainwashed training is to follow orders.

          • sidewinderaz

            You are quite right about our soldiers. But there will be those who will blindly follow orders. Also the main reason Obummer and his pals want a civillian security force is for this reason. They will all be brainless wannabe police (like the TSA) who will gladly shoot you in the back or the back of the head. Just like our imposter in chief, they are cowards.

        • Pathfinder

          The only reason that impeachment is NOT a viable option; IS that the corrupt, democratic majority in the senate will never impeach one of their own, regardless of any offenses which he may commit.

      • Elaine James

        Amen!!!

      • Lewis Munn

        I thought Chester Arthur, the President finally proven to have produced a false birth certificate, was our worst? Tho he may have been superceeded by the present one who cannot even produce one college paper from all the places he claims to have gone. and spent millions to make sure nobody can find anything to challange him!

        If it has to be hidden that well, there is a much more basic problem!!

        But how many honest investigators will we have to sacrifice before we will know the honest and full truth??

    • JKO

      I think it’s all politicians not just Obama. And I will say what I have said several times on this sight – I have a constitutional right to be a racist (as long as I do not inflict harm on the person I am being racist toward). And “you” have the right to not hire me, to fire me, or to not use my goods or services. Now I am proving myself to be stupid when I do this, but stupidity is not unconstitutional either – have you listen to our politicians lately.
      And since I am a person of at least 3 races I find it difficult to be a racist.

      • DaveH

        We will never get rid of racism. Fear of things or people similar to those which caused earlier pain in our lives is a survival mechanism that is probably inate but maybe learned. For instance, very few people would be so unbiased as to climb into a bear cage. But not all bears will eat people immediately, especially if well fed. Think I’m daft? Watch the movie “Grizzly Man” about Timothy Treadwell who lived amongst the bears for 13 years before finally meeting his death. Yet we still know better than to climb into that cage.
        Unfortunately, those fears often turn into harmful actions against the source of our fears. That is morally wrong and we should strive as intelligent people to eliminate those kinds of prejudice that result in harm to others.
        Should we strive to put aside those prejudices and judge people on their own merits? Of course! But we can’t force that on people. It often causes resentment and results in more bias, not less.
        I believe that the best thing we could do to eliminate bias in the workforce is to get Government out of the Marketplace. With Government involvement, fear of liability lawsuits is added to what may already be bias towards the applicant based on their personal status (sex, race, etc.), so prospective employers sometimes go out of their way to find excuses to not hire that “protected” person. I have personally witnessed that sort of behavior.
        Contrast that with Free Markets, where the companies that produce the best products succeed, as opposed to those who feather the nests of the right politicians. There would still often be bias, but the smart companies, the ones who hired the best workers regardless of race, sex, etc., would be the companies that produced the best products and services and thus succeed in the Free Marketplace.
        Get Government out of our markets!

      • barbm

        sure dude, la raza unida – not racist. naacp – not racist. anybody can be a racist. in this case, nobody was calling anybody in d.c. a monkey. it was just a story about real monkeys to make a point. and when people use racial slurs, it is hurtful. if you hurt people, you do cause them harm. i don’t know about everybody else, but i find it difficult to take seriously anything that comes out of a mouth that uses racial language. also, it reflects on the other people in a group – other people who are smart enough to make their point without using racist words.

        • JKO

          I agree with you barbm. My point is that I get really tired of people calling me a racist because they don’t agree with what I have to say. I am a dudet by the way. I live on a reservation right now working as a middle school teacher and my kids will tell me I am being a racist when they don’t like something I say. I ask them why – to prove their point. They will usually just look at me. (And I have never said a racist thing to them.) Then I ask them if it is because they think I am white and they will nod. I then inform them that I am white, but also Native American and Black – which surprises them.
          We have come to the point that if I disagree with the President I am automatically against him because he is black (even though he is 1/2 white). I have never had a problem with his skin color, but his policies. And even if I explain exactly what I disagree with I can still be called a racist. So I have begun to use the argument that I did in my previous post. My students call me fat sometimes because I am, but I have decided not to let that offend me. If they start referring to any of my races I will choose not to be offended, it is just words. Now if one kid calls another something bad, I step in and deal with it and explain to the speaker where they are being inappropriate.
          There are many problems in America and I believe that we need to stop bringing up someone’s racism as THE answer when in truth a person’s opinion usually has little to do with racism.

          • Bruce D.

            JKO, you are right to try to deprogram your kids. The word racism is used as a form of mind control now. The left has come to use it as ‘anyone who disagrees with me politically is a racist’. The same holds true for the word anti-semite. It is not used as much anymore because many Jews are turning against Obama for his lack of support for Israel and the National debt. I told my Jewish friend who is waking up that Obama needs Jewish support to win in 2012 and they can make a difference. I am on his e-mail list and can see who else is on his list to know that Jews are turning against Obama and really are moving away from the older generation who help to hijack the Democrat party in the 60s that made Marxism mainstream.

          • kodster5

            Good for you, JKO! If anyone hasn’t noticed, it’s when the label “racist” gets used, it’s the very last resort, when they have nothing else to justify why they feel they do. And you KNOW they’re against the wall when they do. Because after they use the “racist” card, then they shut down, because they have nothing left to fight with. In their minds, that’s it, nothing left to defend their viewpoint with, and it’s all YOUR problem.

            The children in your class have been programmed by their families to call all whites suppressing racists. In their minds, it’s all the whites’ faults for the predicament they’re in. But if they’re on a reservation, how many of them are on welfare, unable to work, because of severe alcoholism, etc? And, yes, it’s a genetic disposition of Native Americans. Of course, if our forefathers had never introduced firewater to the Native Americans, then we would never likely experienced the problems we have had. I hope I don’t come across as “racist” because I’m not. Just stating facts that the Native Americans haven’t been treated right, from the get-go, especially since if it wasn’t for their forefathers, we would have never survived to colonize America!

        • Elaine James

          I am calling the liberal greedy politicians, trained monkeys! Speak English please, so we, who don’t understand, speak or read Spanish, will know what you are saying! This is North America, not Mexico! I have worked all of my adult life and I am a tax payer. Some foreignors are coming to North America to get an education, have their babies and to commit criminal acts. Fortunately, a few foreignors become law-abiding, fellow tax-payers and are not a drain of our resources. Some foreignors, who are here getting a college education, will return to their native country only to leave Americans to foot the bill! The rest will bring their relatives over here for us to provide their healthcare, food and housing! Foreignors used to have to come Ellis Island and they had to have a sponsor. Sponsors had to provide work, housing and food for those that they sponsored! It needs to be that way now. People who come to North America and commit crimes, should be shot, not imprisoned or deported!

        • barbm

          there are those on here who refer to o as buchwheat and purple lips. makes me sick.

          • libertytrain

            you are correct – that is more than tacky. I do recall incredibly horrible things being said about George Bush by the Left and I never read them taking themselves to task on what they had said – apparently they didn’t see anything wrong with that – I’m not sure about the double-standard but that’s how the Left works apparently.

      • Harold Olsen

        “…have you listened to our politicians lately.”

        I try not to listen to stupid people and our politicians don’t have the brains they were born with. Obama is the most stupid of them all. He is just being lead around by the nose by his master George Soros.

        • http://MSN.com Mary

          Barrack Obama is not stupid, he is socialist. See, just in 2 years America is completely and irreversibly changed. Capitalism destroyed so quickly and American people are continuing watching how U.S is collapsing. I think Obama is smart; he doesn’t get any strong opposition against him. Some politicians are afraid being called “racist” and they are just waiting what will be next.

        • Carlucci

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          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Carlucci, Yeah Baby I put it in Favorites, check it tomazz!

          • JeffH

            Carlucci, good link, already been there and done that a while back.

    • http://none ralph herman

      Where were you 10 years ago when I saw my retirement account lose 76% of it’s value?The Clinton surplus vanished,the wars were started,the people were lied to by Bush and his Republican cronies.They put us in the mess that the present administration has to deal with and in just less than eight years.It can’t be fixed over night and not by the party that caused it.

      where were

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Well there Ralphie, you got a better idea of how to fix things other than blame someone else???

        • Eddie47d

          You all do it all the time. If the Republicans and Democrats screw up then it is a bipartisan problem not just a Obama problem. The major issues today can be traced directly back to Reagan and all the de-regulation.We have been tumbling downward ever since. It may have sounded good back then but it set into motion the ponzi schemes and Hedge fund scams(derivatives).Yes both parties jumped on our free wheeling economy and didn’t put the brakes on. Blame our reckless system not just one Party or the other.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            eddie47d, No response have a great day! :)

          • Bitter Libertarian

            Johnson & the “War on Poverty” & Vietnam didnt hurt us….
            Nixon & removing the Gold Standard didnt hurt us…..
            The Cold war Arms race didnt hurt us……..

            I realize that this mess doesnt belong soley on the door step of the white house….

            Americans sitting on their Laurels and experiencing zombification VIA the Boob Tube…own at least 50% of the responsibility.

            Apathy remains rampant….Until Americans DEMAND Constitutional compliance, and then a few additions and DELETIONS are made (such as a Foreign policy amendment) nationalizing the Central Banks, and Congressional control of Currency….we are going to CONTINUE to spiral down. GUARANTEED.

          • barbm

            deregulation began during the ford administration with transportation (trucking and air lines), carter continued it with The Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act of 1980 which he signed into law on March 31, 1980 and which caused the savings and loan industry to fail, then reagan signed the St Germain Depository Institutions Act of 1982 into law on October 15, 1982 (it was a non-partisan congress – both reps and dems that passed it). get your facts straight before you start lecturing us.

          • JeffH

            Reagan?…and all along I thought it was the rich and the evil corporations that screwed things up. What’s a man to think?

          • JeffH

            47D, further down you blame our capitalistic system for our economic failures…make up your mind!

          • Eddie47d

            No inconsistency there Jeff,pay attention.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            right off the top of my head, show me how libya is traced back to Reagan!! That one is ALL NOBUMMERS!!!!

          • DaveH

            De-regulation? Are you kidding us Eddie47duh?
            The Federal Government is spending $3.5 Trillion a year now. Compare that to the $0.6 Trillion in 1980. And Eddie thinks we’ve been de-regulated? How can anybody be so ignorant?
            They even regulate our lives in the most intimate place — our showers:
            http://mises.org/daily/2007/The-Bureaucrat-in-Your-Shower

          • Jay

            Eddie47 gets angry when his god/messiah obummer is criticized!

          • JeffH

            47D, I’ll leave this link for you to educate yourself on.
            The Financial Crisis – Part 1: Is Deregulation to Blame?
            http://www.swifteconomics.com/2009/05/25/is-deregulation-to-blame-well-kinda/

          • JeffH

            47D…here is part 2…The Financial Crisis – Part 2: The Rest of the Story
            http://www.swifteconomics.com/2009/06/02/the-financial-crisis-part2/

          • JC

            Sadly Jeff, the greatest tool in lefty arsenal is “Blame Bush”.
            This only demonstrates how short sighted and narrow minded they truly are.

            They seem to think that “The One” has the answers, yet neither The One nor his Teleprompter have the answer to anything but Communism.

      • DaveH

        First of all, Clinton did not get rid of the budget deficit. He was there, that was all. The budget balancing was done by actions of the Republicans:
        http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=5656

        Secondly, the Democrats (who rarely see a spending bill they don’t love) were complicit in the Bush spending frenzy years (especially the last two when Democrats controlled the Congress).
        Get over blaming one party or the other. Both Parties have been complicit in building the Leviathan Government that is currently sucking the life out of our economy.
        There is only one Political Party with the Principles and the huevos to get our economy back on track — Vote Libertarian.

        • barbm

          2 years before he left office, dubya warned congress about fannie mae and freddie mac and begged them to do something about it. they did NOTHING!! then came the housing crash.

          • concerned grandma

            Following the Bush WH warning; good ole boy, Barney Frank said in 2008 – “These two entities—Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. “The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”

            Nothing like a dim bulb comment…and he and Democrat Senator Dodd were in charge. I guess their kickbacks made it all worthwhile.

        • GeorgeE

          DaveH,

          Libertarians definitely have the right idea about economic matters, and there’s no doubt in my mind that our number one issue right now, and probably for the foreseeable future, will be economic driven by government fiscal discipline; ie, primarily controlling spending. All libertarians and conservatives of all political parties should endorse this view and rally around this philosophy and candidates that we think will make this their top priority. If this isn’t done quickly, there will be no money left for anything but servicing the debt. Then everything is lost including all of the programs and benefits we each hold dear.

          Regarding social issues, I’m not inclined to quickly agree with many of the libertarian views I hear expressed. However, I am inclined to think if we can get back to a balanced budget over the long term (you can’t do that by increasing tax rates), the government will be forced to withdraw from many of the social, environmental, defense, etc. programs it is currently funding while stimulating the economy (primarily by keeping tax rates low and relaxing non-productive regulations on businesses). That should help clear our minds about what’s really important for government to get involved in and may bring us closer together in the long run on many of the social issues that divide us today.

          • DaveH

            GeorgeE,
            Do not confuse our stance of Freedom with our personal morality. We believe that people have the natural right to control their own bodies and property as long as they don’t trespass on the bodies and property of others.
            So, for instance, people would have the right to put poisons in their body (drugs, sugar, whatever). But if they harm others in the process, they should be punished. And I’m not talking about mental harm. Everything we do harms one person or the other mentally.
            By acknowledging their freedom to control their own bodies and property, we are not promoting their bad behavior. I, for instance, am a relative teetotaler. I have taken one puff on one marijauna cigarette one time in my life. And I rarely drink. In fact, I am a bit of a health food nut. I encourage others to do the same. But if they choose otherwise, it is their business, not mine.
            Besides that, the drug wars have accomplished nothing more than enriching the worst segment of society (drug lords), and degrading our Constitutional liberties, oftentimes even resulting in the deaths of innocents at the hands of drug warriors as well as drug pushers.
            The drug wars are a failure.
            Portugal got their heads out and decriminalized drugs 10 years ago and they haven’t regretted it:
            http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10080

          • GeorgeE

            DaveH,

            I don’t philosophically disagree with anything you’ve said. It’s only when we get down to details that I may have a problem. At any rate, I think we’d be better off right now just staying focused on our number one priority; ie, reducing federal government debt. That’s something most of us can agree on and must be dealt with very quickly or nothing else will matter much anyway. If we spend time debating other issues, it will only serve to divide us and that plays right into the hands of those who want a socialist government and society.

          • Mike in MI

            GeorgeE -
            I think there will be little problem deciding how to control spending or where to put any profit ANYBODY is able to generate when every last penny of it will have to go towards paying interest on the debt. Of course that might put somewhat of a kaibash on any growth or any kind of prosperity – except for the elitists who can make laws or get laws passed that exempt them from paying taxes, fees or other parts of any financial burden borne by the “ordinary” serfs.
            Anybody want a big serving of feudalism? It happened before for a millenium.
            Who brought an end to it? Wycliffe, Luther, Tindale and such. The “Enlightement” could never have transpired without the prior Reformation. Those men of God and ther fearless teaching were the ones who reset the monkeys’ mental patterns and set them free from fear of the “cold-water-wash” the RCC had put on their souls for those 1000 years.

          • Mike in MI

            BTW TIME, TIME, TIME -
            I think this is your doing. Good going for having the great presence of mind for recognizing the value of the research study and for putting this into proper context. AND, for giving it to the right individual to alert us all.
            Both of you, Time and Chip, are truly wonderful.

          • DaveH

            Here is an example of our philosophy from current events, GeorgeE:
            http://libertarianparty.org/news/press-releases/libertarians-speak-against-obamas-war-on-poker

          • GeorgeE

            DaveH,

            This is one social issue I agree with Libertarians on. There are many because I don’t think there is much (or any) difference as to the principle of maximizing personal liberty. The problem is always in the details as to how far we should go one way or the other.

            Thanks,

      • Harold Olsen

        Bush may have started this current recession but he could only spend the money that the Democrat congress allowed him to spend. They willingly gave him all the money he wanted. They, not Bush, controlled the money. Since taking office, Obama has spent more money than all previous presidents combined because he has had a democrat congress who gives him everything he wants and they don’t even bother reading the legislation they pass because they don’t give a damn. Everything Obama has done since taking office convinces me that his sole goal is to destroy our country and the best way to do that is to destroy our economy, which he is doing. The Democrats in congress are his willing allies and the Republicans, who now control the House, do not have the courage, nor, probably, the desire to stop him. All we get from politicians of both parties is lip service. The Republicans say what they believe we want to hear and then they screw us.

        • GeorgeE

          Harold,

          I think politicians are like the monkeys that Chip describes in this article. They really believe that they will get re-elected by continuing on with the big government spending programs that they’ve always done. If we want them to get focused on the deficit and reducing the debt, the public has got to stay focused on these priorities over the long term. Policitians will eventually figure out “who is buttering their bread.”

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          Harold:

          For six years Bushy had a Republican Congress. They spent like idiots. Remember Medicare Part D? That boondoggle was predicted to cost 44 billion the first year. It ended up around 75 billion, and growing. Bushy never vetoed a single bill during the Republican rein.

          Bush, as Little Barry, was a tool of the NWO – a stooge. Boehner, Cantor, McConnell, et al were complicit during Bushy’s spend-a-thon and now they are still part of the problem – not the solution.

          Also, do not forget that Little Barry was in the Senate under Bushy and voted for ALL of Bushy’s spending. And he said it was not enough. Now the little communist dirt-bag runs around blaming Bush.

      • JKO

        If you are talking to me, Ralph, I was complaining about some of Bush’s stuff too. And Clinton did not have surpluses he had Reagan’s surpluses which were gone as Clinton left office. And Reagan failed in his presidency to cut spending as much as he cut taxes. I could go on, but I think you get my point. I am 54 and have followed politics my whole adult life. I try to speak only about things I have researched and understand. AND if I am wrong I am not afraid to admit it.

      • Elaine James

        You sound like one of the liberals that voted for Obama. In just 2 years this nation has incurred $3.5 trillion. It took all of the previous presidents to get us that much in debt! It is morons like you that got us further into the muck and mire that we find ourselves in now!

        • Mike in MI

          Elaine James -
          Please, just for common courtesy’s sake identify to whom you are addressing your remarks. We all like to dash off a quick retort sometimes to some droll troll who left his face covered with stuff from the floor of his home pig pen and slatherred it on all of our screens. But, sometimes it helps us to know to which of them you are responding.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          Elaine James:

          Actually I THINK it was debt acumulated by all presidents up to GW. He, and the Republican Congress, worked on spending us into the poor house. THEN ALONG CAME LITTLE BARRY WHO HAS DOUBLED DOWN ON BUSHY and has made him look like a piker.

    • newspooner

      You bring up a good point — the socialists (they really shouldn’t be called “liberals” because they don’t favor liberty) are increasingly trying to label us good guys a racist. The truth is that we are the decent people and they are the racists. They favor what is euphemistically called “affirmative action” which is outright racial discrimination. Always challenge them with that. It is an indefensible position. Everyone who favors that corrupt and immoral legislation is a racist.

      Individual racism is bad. Institutional racism is worse. And governmental racism is the worst of all.

      • Eddie47d

        Nice “cover” newspooner.

        • Mike in MI

          Aw-w-w gee, newspooner. I think you hurt Eddie47d’s feelings. You forgot to classify where in your classifications of bad, worse and worst you would put his brand of what-ever-it-is.

          • JeffH

            Now ,now Mike, easy on ole 47D…you know how he gets! LOL!

          • DaveH

            Troll.

          • DaveH

            Union Troll.

    • SteveB

      I used to think Obama was more like an ostrich…with his head “down”…buried in the sand. Now…after two years of his incompetence…I’m more inclined to believe his head is “up” somewhere else.I don’t even know how he could eat a banana…the way he’s sitting on his hands all the time.

    • Edward Chandler

      tO HELL WITH RACISM,WE HAVE Amonkey in the white house and his twin is Harry Reid. I think John Boehner is in training to become a monkey,he seems to like what Obama and Reid does

      • Harold Olsen

        Seems? Don’t you think you’re being a bit kind to the Weeper of the House?

    • SteveB

      For a while there I thought Obama was more like an ostrich…with his head “down”…buried in the sand. But…now…after two years of his incompetence…it’s apparent that his head is “up” somewhere else.
      It’s a mystery to me how he can even peel a banana to eat it, when he’s sitting on his hands all the time.

      • Chris

        Steve B….It wasn’t that intelligent the first time; you didn’t have to repeat it.

    • Vigilant

      Dan,

      The trained monkeys were clearly identified as Congressmen, not the president.

      • GeorgeE

        Vigilant,

        I think the American public can be described as “monkeys” as well. We’ve been conditioned over time to believe that the federal government should step in whenever there’s a problem or a perceived problem. And, we’ve typically rewarded politicians who go to Washington to give the federal government more and more control over our lives and our money. This has led to the situation we now find ourselves in, and must stop very quickly or all is lost. We can sit back and blame one party or the other, one politician or the other, lobbyists, etc. etc. etc. for our problems, but there are very few politicians who would do the things they have done and are doing if they didn’t think they would be rewarded with our votes. And if the politicians aren’t moving fast enough to suit us, I submit the real cause is that we haven’t made our case in strong enough terms to the American people because we haven’t won a large majority of their hearts and minds yet. That’s where the real battle lies, I think. Politicians come and go (some stay way too long…..), but our culture, values, ethics, morals, biases tend to stay around a long time.

        • Vigilant

          Good posting. I agree with you implicitly and explicitly.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          GeorgeE,
          Speak for yourself, paleface! I have never depended on the government to supply anything, except weapons when I was in service! I learned how to make a few of those as well!My and my wifes hard work is what has provided for us and our three children up to now and hopefully beyond!! All I ask of the government is to leave me alone as long as I don’t break any of their damnedable laws!!

          • Void1972

            Joe H
            I don’t know what work has to do with my subject but, Like you, I also have many Jewish friends, and the information I wrote about comes from them.
            We discuss world politics often, and they are very concerned for our country, as are we.
            They also are very hard workers, from incredible families who beleive in God and treat others as they would be treated.
            The only difference between them and the reformed Jew, is they love God and America. The reformed Jew is progressive, a non-believer and anti-American.
            If you would like to educate yourself on current Jewish affairs, please read “To Eliminate The Opiate” by Rabbi Marvin Antlemann.
            This incredible book was written in 1974, but explains our current world like no other.
            The Religious Jews are battleing the evil but are overwhelmed.
            They know that all Religions have been corrupted by these evil people and because of them, we are living in a world where faith is discouraged.
            Keep your faith in God no matter how corrupt the leaders are, for they will soon perish. They will pay for eternity.
            Anything touched by man will be corrupted, but God is pure.
            Our elected leaders in America have corrupted our country, and they also will pay with their souls. They have sold us out to the devil.
            It was with Gods touch that this incredible nation was born, where everyone could succeed and create ones own happiness, beleive as they wished and prosper if they chose.
            Now a Communist country, with a 200 million man army is comming our way. They are buying up the world with Americas debt, and will soon be the largest economy and industrialized nation on the planet, a Godless nation!
            Americas dream has turned to a nightmare we will all witness soon.
            They have sold us out!
            Keep your faith!
            Keep close with your family. Laugh, love and enjoy each day with them.
            Try to prepare as much as possible for tough times to come.
            Teach your family and friends of the comming storm, and pray all will be pardoned the comming wrath.
            God Bless America, and all who fight for her!!!!

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Void1972:

            Very eloquently stated! And right on point.

            “God Bless America”. Yes, but think about it. Why should He?

          • GeorgeE

            “Paleface”?????? My ancestors were Cherokee……………..ha.

            Good for you. There are very, very few people today who can say they don’t take anything from the government. Keep up the good work.

            I’ll make a note so that next time I refer to the “American people” I’ll be sure to add “except for JeffH” right after………………….ha.

          • GeorgeE

            Sorry, I should have said “Joe H”, not “JeffH”.

    • Average Joe

      I am so darn tired of having to be politically correct in everything I say and do in the world…for fear of hurting someone elses’ feelings.
      Boo frigging Hoo! Even here, I have to watch what I say or I don’t get published……sad but true. Sometimes you just have to call an idiot an idiot….a spade a spade etc. If someone is offended by those comments…so be it….you can either stay here (or wherever) and argue your point or….go elsewhere, nobody is forcing anyone to be anywhere that they don’t wish to be…period….If someone is acting like an a**hole…why shouldn’t they be told so by other members of the community…and in a manner of which they deserve?
      Don’t get me wrong, I am a strong advocate for civility in any discussion…..there still remains a certaim amount of obvious stupidity spewed forth from the mouths of complete idots and morons…that needs to be adressed in a proper manner.
      While the PC people may be able to polish their turd, they will never convince me that it is possible to pick it up by the clean end.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Average Joe, I love the terd analogy!__You go Buddy!

        • Average Joe

          Since the PC people have coined a phrase (politically correct), I’d like like to coin my own: UC, “Unapologetically Correct” (to speak one’s mind)….that is what I am…lol

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Average Joe, I don’t comply with the PC crowd either, never did, and I’m NOT about start now_If the PC-ers don’t like what I say, then turn me off or tune me out! :)

          • Average Joe

            I guess that makes you UC too…we’ve started a new fringe group… now we need more members…..gotta run those PCer’s out of the country…look out, I see a lot of hurt feelings from the bleeding hearts crowd.
            I’ll start by tossing this out….. Getting an award ribbon for showing up…..is not really an award….also ran….doesn’t really count…and no, we’re are not going to buy the team a pizza in celebration of your loss…..
            Now that should hurt a few feelings….lol

          • independant thinker

            I used to make and sell wall plaques that said “Politicaly incorrect and proud of it”. Feel free to make your own if you want.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            independent thinker, I love it!

          • Cawmun Cents

            I have always considered myself Unapologetically Opinionated(a euphemism for an a$$#ole)But whether I am correct or not is open to debate I suppose.Bravo…AJ!UC can become an institution on this thred…haw!

          • Vigilant

            Under “political views” on my Facebook page, it says, “the incorrect ones, of course.”

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            AJ

            I guess I am also a UCer, and always have been. Now, as disussed earlier this week, we need a SYMBOL for our “movement”.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Old Henry__ a symbol, How about a Terd, held by the CLEAN end!__LMAO!

      • Harold Olsen

        Personally, I refuse to be politically correct. I consider it cowardly. I say what I mean and mean what I say and don’t give a damn if I hurt someone’s feelings and I won’t apologize for doing so.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          At’s what say too Harold! :)

  • Klaus

    We are basically a Communist country right now. I can’t see the difference between us and the old Soviet Union anymore. Our rights are being trampled by unelected regulators, our capitalist system is being destroyed, companies are being over regulated if not outright taken over by Government, we have a progressive income tax, our’President’ is a Marxist, some of his appointees are outright communists, I could go on.

    • Eddie47d

      Our Capitalist system created our financial headaches so maybe it needs an overhaul.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        eddie47d, Oh eddie47d, go to Cuba to live, they obviously got what you want, a dictatorship! Damn Progressive Sheep, PIA!

        • Eddie47d

          That is why our system will never be fixed because you are too busy supporting the crap that goes on within our capitalist system. You can complain about the elites but forget to mention they are the capitalists.

          • Conservative at Birth

            When the brown shirts come to steal my wealth, I will defend it to death. I hope you are in the front line, because I will shoot you firstl.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Well Said, Conservative at birth!!

          • Mike in MI

            Eddie47d -
            Correction:
            Capitalism did NOT ruin the system and cause all this economic turmoil and pain…socialism did and then told YOU it was the capitalists. Of course, you, as a fully trained and mentally crippled
            little study subject in the last stages of “monkey indoctrination” just went along because of the “Monkey Taboo” – IT’s there but just accept that the banana is NOT TO BE TOUCHED. That’s the way we’ve been trained to think about it for about three generations now – don’t question the “obvious”…….accept it, the banana is in its “proper” position. Monkeys like it that way…a-a-ah-h-h-h.

          • Eddie47d

            Me’s think some of you have been playing with your banana for too long now. Blaming socialism for all the ills makes for a closed mind. You can’t see the damage of the Enrons when it is right in front of your face. You are like the 3 monkeys who see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.

          • JeffH

            …and you , 47D, have been playing with the banana peel and throwing away the “meat”.

          • Eddie47d

            Sorry Jeff that doesn’t make you the top banana. Maybe next time you can win the prize.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Conservative at Birth – Now, that’s not very PC….

          • JC

            Eddie47d says:

            April 29, 2011 at 10:28 am

            That is why our system will never be fixed because you are too busy supporting the crap that goes on within our capitalist system.
            __________________________________________________________________

            We don’t have a capitalist system eddie.
            We have top down economic fascism implemented by government being in bed with business interests…the rest of us are just inventory.
            Which is exasperated by a communist style central bank.
            The answer surpisingly is to introduce capitalism and a system of justice.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          angel Wannabe,
          eddie is part of the 18 percenters!!! In case you don’t understand, I’ll tell you about it. The other day, they did a poll in honor of the royal wedding and 18% of the responders said they would like an American ROYAL FAMILY!!! What idiots!!!!!!

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Lol, JoeH!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Our Capitalist system is what provides food, clothing and shelter. No one has to spend his lifetime grubbing for a meager existance and dying young and seeing their children die miserable deaths from starvation and disease. Read history to verify. If you are hungry, or have no shelter it is your own damn fault. There are enough charities and enough people to help anyone out. What the bloody hell more do you want?

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          Hear Hear NB!

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Eddie47d… The only overhaul that is needed is to get government down to a size where WE can manage it!

      • WayneT

        Eddie, I think you may be better off in China, or the Soviet Union. Why don’t you just pack up and leave this country. Your idiotic post indicates you do not like our the American Freedom and our way of life. We would all be better off without your type. A lot of young men/women has died protecting our freedoms and you are making a mockery out of it. Just leave.

        • Eddie47d

          So you can have free reign? No thanks we’ve already tried that.

          • WayneT

            Eddie47d, I think our kind, the hard Working Conservative, was here in this country before your kind, or we would not have had a great country like the United States. It took real men and women to build up this country in the last 200 years. Your kind only want to tear it down. Shame, shame on you.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            You said it, WayneT!

      • kinda

        Eddie, it was not Capitalism that got us into this mess, it was politicans. Seems to me you need to educate yourself or stop talking about something you obiviously do not understand. AND THAT’S THE TRUTH11

      • GeorgeE

        Eddie47d,

        Please study classical economics further. I think most of us here believe that the biggest problems with our economic system have stemmed from government meddling and interference in the economy as well as crony capitalism where politicians give favors to their friends and supporters. We believe these causes should be addressed rather than junking the capitalist system altogether.

        Here’s a video by one of the great economists of our time, Dr. Milton Friedman, where he discusses capitalism with Phil Donahue. Please go ahead and watch all of the videos posted on YouTube with Dr. Friedman if you have time. I believe you will start to see the virtues of a true capital system that many of us believe in.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A

        Take care.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          Thanks GeorgeE. That was a very good clip. It all went right over Donahue’s head.

      • Vigilant

        Short story from history:

        Capitalism works. Socialism does not. End of story.

      • JeffH

        “Our Capitalist system created our financial headaches so maybe it needs an overhaul.”

        If I may ask, what has caused the financial headaches of other nations?

        …And please don’t tell me a “capitalist system” is responsible for the rest of the world’s financial headaches.

        Giordano Bruno wrote this and it was published in the Neithercorp Press – 07/18/2010: Economic Meltdown – The Final Phase

        In the financial life of every culture built upon faulty monetary policy, there are points at which the thin thread of economic faith; the thread that ties the entire failing system together, the thread made tangible by the hopes (and sometimes ignorance) of the general populace, finally snaps. From Ancient Rome, to Weimar Germany, to Argentina, to modern day America, no society fueled by unsustainable debt and fiat inflation can duck the ‘Fiscal Reaper’ for very long. The U.S. alone has survived since the early 1970’s (after Nixon removed the last vestiges of the gold standard) on nothing but questionable credit practices and baseless optimism, but there is a limit to the power of fantasy. This is a fact that most mainstream financial analysts and some in the American public refuse to grasp. Mere belief in the enduring nature of the marketplace is not enough; the fundamentals must also support that belief.

        The bottom line; the TRUE unemployment rate of around 20% has become perpetual, and some economists are even suggesting that we accept it as a standard. The American public is now coming to realize that healthy job creation is a very distant goal, one that the government alone has no ability to achieve, bailout or no bailout…

        I would really suggest those interested read this article, quite enlightening and informational.
        http://neithercorp.blogspot.com/2010/07/economic-meltdown-final-phase.html

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        No eddie. The dirt-bag scum in D.C. created our financial headaches.

        And the brain-dead American electorate let them do it and for the most part cheered them on.

      • Vic in PRofNC

        100 years of failure proves nothing!!!

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    Great story! This tells me we need to clean house, or as Nancy says… drain the swamp! Term limits need to be set. The Fair Tax needs to be enacted. I read somewhere that if the Fair Tax is enacted, then the drug dealers and the rich will be paying the same! We have no choice but to cut back on entitlements. We are broke!

    • Bear

      Good points Robin. Add to the term limits, there will be NO continuation of salary after leaving office as there is now. No more getting full retdirements after four years of work. That’s rediculous to begin with. Let them get a real job and contribute to Social Security like the rest of us. As for Presidents and Vice-Presidents leaving office, they will have their security personnel for only one year. Why should we pay to protect someone from what they did to us while pretending to serve us. If they want to continue having protection, let them pay for it out of their own pockets from their “book deals.” An honest person does not need protection from retribution. And for people like Carter and Clinton, once leaving office, they are forbidden from even showing their faces in any political arena. We don’t want or need any more of their political agendas being perpetuated. They’ve done enough damage. Get them the hell of the world stage.

      • DaveH

        Term limits is not the solution. The problem is lack of voter education, and that won’t change with term limits. And with term limits we would have an increased number of Lame Duck Congresses where they could pass whatever bonehead legislation they wanted without fear of voter retaliation.
        But I like your idea on compensation, Bear. I think we should pay all of our Government employees cash, period, no benefits. They can buy their own benefits. After all, they are our employees, aren’t they?
        In fact, it would be better if all employees were paid cash. That would eliminate many unfair situations, like when two-worker families have redundant insurance coverage in which case one of the workers is essentially being compensated less. But having said that, it would be contrary to Freedom for that to be mandated by Government. It is not the business of Government to dictate employment conpensation in the private sector.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          “Hear Hear”, DaveH!

        • http://www.cbcofetowah.com/ Mike

          Dave I dont think its as much voter education anymore> as it its politicle dishonesty. These folks have been saying and doing all the right things right up to the point they get into office. Then it becomes a payola system as to who goes to the highest bidder. And there will allways be a price if you have no backbone to begin with. Thus the crier Bonner. I bet his price was pretty low. He cries in thanks to Obama behind the cameras. Mike L. P.S I am back :)

          • DaveH

            No, Mike, I think they usually say it, we just aren’t listening carefully. Remember also that actions speak louder than words.

        • Robin from Arcadia, IN

          Dave H… Term limits may not be the solution, but they couldn’t hurt! I agree with your voter education theory. However with MSM having so much control, it won’t be easy. And, most people are not interested in how government is run. What is currently happening is an awakening, which is long overdue!

          • DaveH

            Actually, Robin, they can hurt. They hurt by distracting us from the important issues and giving the Big Government architects more time to build Government even larger. We no longer have the luxury of time on our side. If we don’t act soon and vigorously, we are going to lose any chance at turnaround until our country completely collapses. And then it will be a crapshoot as to whether there are still enough people left who understand the benefits of Freedom to start our country over on the right track.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Robin,
            DaveH is right, they can hurt. What happens when we get a guy or gal that firmly believes in the constitution, small government and a balanced budget? In two terms he/she is gone and we take the chance of getting someone just the opposite in!

        • Bear

          Good Points there Dave. Still the term limits is very important. Look at what unionized tenure has done to industry. There are people in jobs that clearly should be terminated but that will not happen because they have tenure and are vested. They sit on their butts contributing next to nothing while contributing to higher prices and runaway cost of living. Many “career” politicians are doing the same thing. They, like a diaper, need to be changed regularly. :)

          • DaveH

            We can do that without throwing the baby out with the bath water. Take Ron Paul, for instance, who has been fighting a lonely fight for Constitutional government for 30 years now. And there are others. Would you want to lose the few that are Champions of Liberty to take a crap shoot?
            We just need to become more active and vigilant.

          • Vigilant

            DaveH,

            I agree. I see no need for term limits on a “one size fits all” basis. Moreover, any constituency that votes in a charlatan is likely to continue voting charlatans in.

            The general lack of political knowledge/interest in the electorate won’t change as a result of term limits. It is unlikely we would see a Constitutional Amendment along those lines, and I agree with you that there are much more pressing matters involved in draining the swamp.

            A repeal of the 17th Amendment, and continued fighting for 10th Amendment rights, would serve to “undemocratize” the government at Federal level, as it should be. Pressures to restore the separation of powers, and the scrapping of costly/burdensome and wholly unnecessary Cabinet Depts. like Energy and Education would help, along with reining in the powers of EPA, FCC, ICC and other tools of statism.

            The Federal Reserve needs to be abolished, the SCOTUS needs to be legally bound by its oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution, as does the Executive. We need to elect a Congress that understands its role under Article 1.

            Federal “mandates” and grants need to be abolished for their defacto unConstitutionality. The Feds need to be told “hands off” in the areas of education, welfare and medical/insurance matters. We need out of foreign wars and entanglements, we need to balance our budget.

            And on and on….

      • http://yahoo richard

        as long as we have liberals and other nut cases among us nobody is safe

        • usmadgirl

          richard,

          Short, to the point & no truer words were ever spoken!!!

      • Jennie

        You make a good case, Bear. I only wish I could be optimistic about the ideas you put forth being put to work for this country and its citizens. It seems to me that the majority of the politicians are much more interested in being re-elected than serving their constituents. And too many voters are mainly interested in what a particular might do for them. I agree on term limits and would like to see spending limits on compaigns. Too often it is the candidates who have the most money in their “war chests” than their belief in service to their country who get elected. They can’t even see that the outcomes may be disastrous for them also. Wake up, America, before it is too late.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Bear:

        Why should we pay to protect them for even one year? At noon on Jaunuary 20 the protection ENDS. Period. They all somehow misteriously leave office as multi-millionaires and can pay for their own protection. Once out of office they are of NO consequence to us.

        Put ALL “guvment” employees on SS. Local, state, federal. Good enough for us, good enough for them.

  • http://sovereignsociety Jack54

    Everyone,

    It would be logical at some point to establish all the real facts about the budget deficits and determine the real spending problem break downs…payroll money has been daily, weekly and monthy sent to accounts to pay for social security and medicare each and every year…the money should be there until 2035…

    Now, if this money has been used for other purposes… then those responsible for unlawfull acts should be prosecuted and imprisoned…same for wars and legislation to make special interest groups wealthy…everyone talks out of both sides of their mouths…Democrats and Republicans both manipulate the system for special interest groups…until this system is corrected these problems will not go away…there is a working relationship among the elites that we can not stop or even slow down…

    Have a nice day!

    • JKO

      Amen Jack!!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Jack54,
      Unfortunately the way the social security law is written they can LEGALLY take any “surplus” dollars, the difference between what is paid in and what is paid out and use it in general fund projects and DO!!

  • TIME

    Chip,

    I see you get my MONKEY term down to a fine science. Good for you!

    Wake up people and start tossing Monkeys. BUT be aware they toss a hand full of crap at you when they can.
    So always keep an eye on the monkeys hands.

    If one is waving at you, {I know its so cute and well they are fuzzy and have that look on their face,} well that look is they are crapping in the other hand and getting ready to toss it at you!
    Wake up.

    Stop feeding the MONKEYS DAMMIT! GUMBIE SAID SO!
    If you don’t like Crap all over your cloths and shoes, just stop feeding the damm Monkeys.
    How bloody easy is that to grasp? Hey even a Monkey can do that.

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      TIME, LMAO!

      • TIME

        Angel,

        Thats good we all need a good one now and then. Just wait until our Monkey squad wake up and start posting I sure we will get a few more “LMAO” moments.

        But do take cover as that hand will be tossing thier trademark products. Thank God we have running water to clean up after an encounted with them.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          Time, I can hear the Progressive Sheep__Baaaaaaaaaing, we’re all Racists now!

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          Hey TIME___The Progressive Sheep are Heeeerrrre!__LMAO!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Angel Wannabe,
            That’s the poo flingers!!!!

        • usmadgirl

          TIME,

          Thank God we at least have running water to clean up after the encounter RIGHT NOW! When O’Dumbo & “friends” finish their agenda we might have to go to a nearby creek or river to clean off the monkey pooh!

    • kodster5

      This is what I have been saying all along… get rid of everybody, fire everyone, and start over, with no taint from the old cronies! But no, we have too many namby-pambies still re-electing the idiots, because “they’re better than nothing!” NO, they’re not! They’re a HUGE part of the problem!

      • Carlucci

        I agree. They all have got to go (except for Drs. Ron & Rand Paul). Stop voting for incumbents. Stop voting for the “lesser of the two evils”. That’s why we are in the mess we’re in. And most of all, start focusing on your state governments! A lot can be done by practicing Nullification and it starts at the state level! Contact your state reps and let them know you support them if they “get it” and are doing a good job to try to stop Fedzilla’s tyranny. Remember – most of us live in one of the fifty states. We’ve got to get back to the way it used to be when the states had all the power (prior to FDR’s socialism).

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          I thought it was 57 states…..

        • DaveH

          Carlucci,
          Abraham Lincoln started the Federal Government’s grab for power in a big way.

    • Thamera

      I was going to say TIME looks like you were “right on the money” with your terminology of Monkey after all :D

    • http://www.cbcofetowah.com/ Mike

      Hey Time, Unfortunatly the only way to stop feeding these monkies is to stop paying taxes. And you see where that will land you. Eventually when they have eaten everything in sight they will either have to stop eating or turn on that lower class they created for their food. Going to get really ugly when that happens. Mike L.

  • Former Walmart person

    Hopefully there is an indeed a Hell where the elite masters of our planet are punished for 1000 years or so before rejoining us in Heaven or back to the Earthly realm. I don’t want them punished eternally, as I am not quite the sadistic bastard God is (at least the God painted by Christians and perhaps Muslums, etc.) If etenral punishment should be my reward for not comming to a saving faith in Jesus Christ, who I am removed from by thousands of years (assumming he was even a real person), then I scream at God for having created me as I would rather be eternal oblivion.

    • Bob

      Scream away former – the fact that you do not like the way it is does not change the way it is. There is only one path to Heaven and you are not on that path. By the way, with your obviously limited intellect, who are you to judge the infinitely wise and just God?

      • Edmond

        And who are you to Judge another Man’s servant

        • Bob

          Completely out of context, Edmond, and that Scripture doesn’t apply to Satan’s servants – all those who are against God are of Satan.

          • Bear

            WOW! Where did all of this come from??????

          • Gregg Jackson

            Hey Bobbo – Welcome back – after a week’s absence. I thought you quit this site. Your (lack of) integrity is always welcome around here as you are among like-minded friends.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Actually we are supposed to.Discernment lets us know whose behavior is good or evil.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          Well Gregg, I wish I could say welcome back and mean it!

      • Edmond

        Obams jsut recently stopped Campaigning for the last election. Oh no, not again. Trust me, Whites could have found a better Black for President, they want “Barrack Obama’ to appease the Muslim world into the Fruits of Democracy.
        Obama can’t create anything in you Ronald. It was already there. I had a good White Buddy in Indiana, who once said to me, “Edmond, you “got” to visit my Church.” We aint like them stiff necked hard cold White Churches. He said, “if you come to my Church and don’t feel nothin’,(Shaking his head in consternation) You aint got nothin’! No Ronald. Everyone has to appear before God to give account of every Word and Thought he had while living in these Bodies of flesh. And I’m telling you, the stakes are high. God showed me the Lake Of Fire. I wouldn’t even want Muslims or Mexicans to go there.
        You” never see the light again. Most of us were taught racism by evil and misquided people, even our mothers and fathers. My mother taught us to never trust a White Man. Me and my present Best Friend White Buddy came to tears when we heard Martin Luther King’s speech. He originated from Georgia. I’m from Boston. It dawned upon us at the same time the “I HAVE A DREAM” came true. A son of a former slave owner and the son of a Slave were joining hand is outright Love. So no
        Ronald. We are so misguided from who God intends us to be and are so filled with fear that people are saying anything. I don’t know you but as we speak, I pray for you to be released from all hatred and animosity toward anyone, and that you love your neighbor as yourself.
        In Christ, their is no race or gender, we are all one. Not our Bodies, but our Grace and Mercy. Get on you knees Sir and ask good to help you become renewed in the thinking of your mind, in Jesus Christ I Pray. Amen
        every man

        • WayneT

          A very good post Edmond. Fortunately, most people will treat you like a gentleman if you deserve it, regardless of the color of your skin. We need to look at a persons qualities, not his skin color. We are what we are since we do not have any control over it. We are all God’s Children, regardless who we are. Sure, some people do have a bias against others, even within our own races. I don’t think we can ever stop that. We have to put that aside, and show respect to others if the quality of that person deserves it. I do not dislike Obama because he is an Afcican American. I dislike this ideologies, as I feel he is not representing our country properly. I am against his drilling policies for many reasons which I won’t go into here. I dislike him having spent trillions of dollars within 2 years. There are many other reasons I do not like Obama. I simply do not trust him. We need a man like Senator Colonel West to lead our nation. I feel very confident that Senator Colonel West would lead this nation in the right direction.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            WayneT:

            Judge a man not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character. That one phrase by Dr. King stuck in my 13 year old mind way back then and it was one of the truest things I have ever heard.

            I have always tried to do so – Black, White, Brown. I have not known many blacks in my time, but have known a lot of Mexes, and most were okay. To quote Booby “Sheets” Bird: “I have known a lot of White ni****rs in my life”. There just seems to be no good word for those kind of White people.

            A black neighbor up the road told me one day over a beer that I treated him better than a lot of his “own kind”. I quoted Dr. King’s line from above to him and told him he was just a neighbor and friend. It was / is as simple as that.

            I remember being down south with my parents and grandparents on vacation in 1960 as a 10 year old kid from up north and seeing those “Whites Only” signs. That experience confused me greatly. My parents tried “splaining” it to me and it just did not seem right. (Typical Yankee attitude!)

        • Harold Olsen

          “Obama just recently stopped Campaigning for the last election.”

          He did? when? It must have only been for a few seconds, and I must have blinked, because I haven’t noticed him getting out of campaign mode since taking office.

          Hopefully, in 2012, we’ll elect someone who knows how to lead instead of this idiot who, when a crisis comes up, leaves the country and clearly has no idea what to do. I’d call him stupid but he isn’t smart enough to even be called that.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Harold,
            He just quit the other day when he announced he was, indeed in the running for 2012! Now he is in campaign mode for 2012!! There WAS only a split second between the two!!

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Former Walmart person… You are indeed a bitter, unhappy, sad, person. What has happened in your life that could possibly make you so miserable? Whatever it is, God is not to blame. You have choices to make everyday of your life. Have you made some bad choices that makes you this hateful? I hope you can sit back and reflect on the good things in your life. It is the only way out of this funk you are in.

      • Buddy

        You madam, know not of what you speak.

        I would suggest to you a little introspection, as your mental paradigm is a bit lagging.

        • Robin from Arcadia, IN

          Buddy… And you are all so wise?

          • Buddy

            Robin:

            With all due respect, is that suppose to be an intelligent & respectful response? It sounds to me a bit childish & flippant. So…for your further edification I put it to you that your ad hominem reply to Former Wal-Mart person’s post is a bit judgmental, and you come off sounding like a religious zealot.

            Whether Wal-Mart Boy has a belief in god or not is no skin off my nose, why is it skin off your’s?

            Best Regards

          • Mike in MI

            Buddy – “What concern is it…?”
            Well, look at it this way. I’ll bet when you were a kid – or maybe even now – when you got hold of some really good snow, blow, mj…whatever, you tried to turn your friends on to it, or to its source. Right? People are like that with things they’ve found or found out about that they appreciae and want others to be able to benefit from.
            In this case it’s called “compassion, concern for one’s fellowman, love, desire to help or bless, share the benefit”…call it what you want. She’s obviously found something great and thinks it might be something “Walmart” might need.
            Why do you want to denigrate and disparage that?

          • Vigilant

            Buddy says, “I put it to you that your ad hominem reply to Former Wal-Mart person’s post is a bit judgmental, and you come off sounding like a religious zealot…Whether Wal-Mart Boy has a belief in god or not is no skin off my nose, why is it skin off your’s [sic]?”

            For your further edification, you can’t have it both ways, Mr. smugness.

            FWp said, ” I am not quite the sadistic bastard God is (at least the God painted by Christians and perhaps Muslums, etc.).”

            And you call that neither ad hominem nor judgmental? Get a life that’s less full of yourself..

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Buddie,
            Why should it be any skin off my nose? My God tells me to spread his word and love to enable ALL to come to him freely! I don’t care to see anyone come to judgement as a non-believer and obtain the fitting reward!

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Well said Robin.

    • kodster5

      Former Walmart… I feel sorry for you, through my heart and soul… and I know that’s Jesus speaking through me. To make a choice like that, hurts those of us who have Him living in us. That’s why we react, the way we do, towards those that choose to not believe in Him. To totally reject Him is hurtful.

      But, God isn’t the one making the choice to put you in eternal punishment (death). You are the one making the decision. He gave us all free will, to choose between Him and death. You’ve make your choice, and you only have your time while you’re alive on earth to make that decision. After your body has given up, and you’re dead, that’s it… there’s no redemption, except for one time. You’ll be resurrected to stand before Him, on Judgment Day, to hear why you are condemned to death forever.

      I pray that you will change your mind before your body says, enough, I’m done, and you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, and repent your sins. Yes, we are ALL sinners, even those that have accepted Him. You’re basically no different than the rest of us that are believers… the only difference is that we acknowledge that we are sinners, and asked Him to forgive us, to accept His Son’s sacrifice on our behalf, and to turn from our sinning ways. We’re not perfect, but we strive to be. We fall down, but the difference is, we get back up and keep trying.

      Blessings to you.

      • WayneT

        Well said, Kodster5.

      • usmadgirl

        kodster5,

        I don’t think anyone could’ve explained this any better than you have! I have a lot to say on this subject, but will leave it at that.

    • Andy Miller

      I feel sorry for you as you have nothing! Your statement of “I would rather be eternal oblivion” shows me you never had any basic education as “the fear of God is the beginning of knowledge“, and by your own testament you have no fear of Him!

      May you find God’s Grace before you leave this world.

    • Vigilant

      FWp:

      “…then I scream at God for having created me as I would rather be eternal oblivion.”

      Judging by your remark, you’ve already attained your goal.

  • Bob

    The only fair tax is a head tax – a tax based on those duties of the government that are outlined in the constitution. This would be fair because all benefit equally and should, therefore, pay equally. Any additional programs could be paid for by those who desire the programs. This plan would make taxes absolutely fair and would keep the worthless, tax-consuming parasites of the left from demanding more and more from government because they would then have to pay for more government out of their own pockets rather than stealing the money by taxing the productive.

    • DaveH

      Right on Bob.
      And those who couldn’t pay whould have to jump through the paperwork hoops to explain why they couldn’t. The rest of us would just cut a check and be done with it. You can bet that people would immediately start voting more responsibly once they were then paying their fair share.
      Also, those who couldn’t pay due to some financial misfortune, shouldn’t be able to vote for a certain time period. Why should people with no skin in the game be allowed to vote how the money is spent?
      But we are just Hoping and Dreaming, as the Government is not going to give up their vote-buying power easily. For evidence of that, see here:
      http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/taxes/april_2011/64_say_americans_are_overtaxed_political_class_disagrees

  • Gary in Oh

    The fire department was told to stand down! And the color of the PUPPET is irrellivant so lets stop with that distraction. The birth certificate has always been a distraction. Obama is not the President of this country (the land we live on), He is merely the CEO of the corporation cleverly titled THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA that We the People have been illusioned into thinking is the real government.

  • Shirjay

    I believe that Chip Wood and the author of the monkey article are trying to tell us that we need to vote the incumbents out for the next four elections until there’s a complete turnover in our Congress- however I wonder if that would cure the situation if the “monkeys” are learning so quickly from each other. Perhaps we should “recall all of them” and start over with an entirely new group. That might possibly work IF we can find some individuals with ‘integrity and patriotism who are courageous and willing to stand on Constitutional principles’ and ignore “politically correct garbage” so the job will get done to SAVE OUR CHILDREN’S FUTURES!!!!!!

    • Klaus

      Term limits is the only way to fix this.

      • http://yahoo richard

        we have term limits!!!!!!!!!!

      • DaveH

        Term limits are a red-herring.
        There is no substitute for an educated electorate.

        • Vigilant

          Correctamundo!

    • Allen in reality

      While I agree with term limits, there must be strict
      controls on how congress/senators increase their pay
      and regulate contact with lobbyists looking for a
      favor.

      • Carlucci

        But do we really need them (Congress)? What good are they? Except for the Drs. Paul, who are really trying to make a difference, the rest are a bunch of parasites. With the way technology is these days, why does Fedzilla have to be so huge? The current system is totally old fashioned and obsolete.

        • WayneT

          We all know one fact, it has been Comgress who has got us in this 14.4 trillion dollar debt and this is causing our current economic situation where a lot of people are suffering. I blame it on both sides of the isle. They are the ones who approved all this idiotic spending. We do need to vote those old codgers out of office as soon as possible as China will soon own us if we do not. The first ones I would start with is Nancy Pelosi, Hrry Reid, Charlie Rangel, Barney Frank and the list goes on and one fro here….

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            WayneT:

            And one of the first that needs to go is Dicky Turbin the scum-bag that stood on the floor of the U.S. Stnate and called our military personnel Nazis, Communists, Pol Pot mass murders. He should be tried for treason and hung on the front lawn of the Capital.

      • Harold Olsen

        The ONLY way to regulate how and when politicians get pay raises would be to put it to a vote of the people. If WE decided when or if they got raises then, MAYBE, they would get their head out of their asses and pay attention to us. The trouble is, to change how they get their pay raises would take an act of Congress. So, that kills that idea. They would never pass legislation that would give us the power we are supposed to have according to the Constitution of the United States, which the left considers an illegal document and the rights chooses to just ignore it.

  • JIMEMAC

    Chip, great comparison but no solution. Do you know of GOOOH (pronounced GO)? If so, why not at least mention it in this article? After all, it is a plan/method to replace every one of the 435 representatives in Congress in 2012. Can it work . . .? Not if influential columnists, etc. keep ignoring GOOOH. Yes, Robin, the FAIR TAX would have a fighting chance of passing with true citizen representatives voting instead of the “monkeys” there now! Also, term limits are required of GOOOH candidates! Sound interesting? Check out GOOOH.COM now. We cannot afford to wait.

    • http://www.cbcofetowah.com/ Mike

      Sounds intresting but…. We had better ban all the lobbiest while we are at it. Mike L.

  • Edd

    This is an old story that still applies to our Govt members. We need to clean house completely and set term limits to get rid of elected HOMESTEADERS. There is also a very definite cure for all that ails SS and medicare that we have been forced to pay into all our working lives. The cure is to take all the freeloading Congressional entitlement thinkers off their programs and put them under SS and Medicare like the people they make laws for but feel those laws do not apply to themselves. SS and medicare will be fixed in a couple of heart beats when they apply to Washington Elites.

  • Randy

    Learned Behavior is almost impossible to overcome. What is even more frightening is the way our Education System has been changed. The trained behaviour of our youth is to believe that the Constitution and our Founding Fathers are irrelevant. What matters is the Community Collective and reinforcing Liberal beliefs in “Sharing the Wealth” and the evil of the Corporations whose only motivation is Profit.
    Tax the rich because they have too much money and must share it with the benevolent Government. Thank you Bill Ayer and all the other Liberals who have been teaching our students.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      If polls ask parents about schools their children attend,they will tell the pollsters that the school their child attends is wonderful with wonderful, caring teachers. So where are all the bad schools where the kids are dumbed down?

      • DaveH
        • Nadzieja Batki

          They are being dumbed down. How do you plan to get the parents’ attention to that fact? They don’t appear to see what you see.

          • Carlucci

            Dumbed down and brainwashed. And it’s not just the students. My sister works for a school district and I’ve never seen anyone so brainwashed in my life. She believes that public schools actually educate kids, and also should be in charge of medicating them. She actually takes Ritalin herself, because she believes she has “A.D.D.”, which is a completely made up “disease or disorder”. A.D.D. symptoms are nothing but the result of adrenal fatigue, which is a national epidemic, according to my holistic physician. I cannot stand to talk to my sister about her job because she is so militant and clueless.

            You know, I’m only 56 years old, but I am astounded and disgusted at all of the bullshit I see and hear everywhere on a daily basis, and most of it is courtesy of that cancer called Fedzilla. America has turned into something I no longer recognize.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Carlucci, the school our kids were in, tried to get us to put our son on Ritalin, I told them to take a flying f-in leap. Turned out he had a high IQ, he needed more of a challenge. We put him in an extra class and he was fine and 31!__

            BTW, speaking of medication, I personally know 17 people, ages 30 and below, who are on some type of Ritalyn, Abilify or some other personality altering drug. I’m not saying that some folks don’t need it, but basically I think its doctors in cahoots with Big Pharma pushing it. There is no way in h*ll, all of these people need to be on this stuff. I think its used an excuse for lousy behavior too!

          • DaveH

            Good for you, Angel (on the flying leap thing).
            I fear that if we don’t stop the Government growth now, they will be prescribing pills or incarceration for all of us who don’t agree with their policies, much like what the USSR did with their disidents.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Daveh, Agreed, the GUV still has too many people hangin on they’re every word, they don’t need pills yet to make it worse!

  • Tim L.

    Monkeys are very intelligent, social animals and can be taught many things. Too bad the same can’t be said of republicans. It would be nice if they could be taught basic civility and decency.

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      TimL, Oh, get over yourself and your pitiful Progressive antics, neither side is no Gem, but I don’t remember the repubs running off to another state, when Obama and his Band of merry thieves passed healthcare, like the Dems did in Wisconcin___You remember THAT bill don’t ya Timmy, the one Miss Peelousi said “We have to pass in order to read?”__Your side acted like a bunch of spoiled brats, wah I can’t get my way so I’ll leave wahhhh!!!!___ yeah, your side is just grande___Blow it out your butt!__ROFLMAO!! :)

      • Eddie47d

        Still passing gas Angel? LOL

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          PFFFFFT!___eddie

          • WayneT

            Angel, never mind Eddie, he is an underchiever and knows not what he is saying. We have to overlook people like this. He is not even worthy responding to.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            wayne t, i’m hearing that,__ sorry, typing one handed, grandson just fell asleep!

        • Carlucci

          Speaking of that, Eddie47d – A good brain fart would do you some good.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            carlucci__ROFLMAO!!!!!!

          • Eddie47d

            See,a little humor is good for the soul.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Carlucci,
            Remember, one has to have the EQUIPMENT to have a brain fart!!!!

    • JKO

      Tim I began my life as a democrat and realized they were out to lunch. I then became a republican and they went out to lunch. It is BOTH parties that are uncivil. AND most of the bad behavior during protest now are coming from the left. Case in point – when Beck held his 8-28 rally a left leaning columnist wrote that he actually walked the mall looking for trash and found exactly one piece of paper. There was only one incident of conflict between people and the cops were not even called. The people kindly asked the person to stop and they did (evidently when the people began to pray for him). During 10 2 10 the mall was left a mess, there was a lot of yelling and general disrepect. I saw that with my own eyes.
      My point is that it is both of these parties that are the problem not just one. Step outside of your “liberal” box and check it out for yourself. Don’t just believe what your party wants you to.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        JKO… I started out as a Democrat, too. Grew up in a Democrat home. When I left and was on my own for several years, I still was a Democrat. Then I truly grew up. My folks were appalled that I wanted to be a conservative. They are both dead and gone now, but I am sure Mom is rolling in her grave and Dad’s ashes are fluttering. They wouldn’t believe what is currently going on.
        I agree that both sides can dish it out, but I too believe that the liberals have cornered the market on incivility. Conservatives are just that, conservative. Go figure.

        • kodster5

          Ditto! I grew up in a household that my parents were “blue-dog” Democrats, and like Angel Wannabe’s grandparents, my parents grew up during the Great Depression. So, I aligned myself with the Democratic party when I was old enough to vote. I was on my own for a while, and then realized that the Republican party was more aligned with my beliefs and started voting that way. But over time, again, became disillusioned with that party, because the line between the parties was becoming more and more blurred. So, now, I’m an Independent, and vote my conscience.

          NO party is going to align with everyone, 100%. That’s just plain impossible. So, vote Independent, vote your conscience, look at the issues, and do what your heart tells you to do. That’s also the basic premise of the Tea Party movement, too. Even though I still vote independently, I like what I see coming out of the Tea Party. They are people who are just as disillusioned as I am.

          • WayneT

            Kodster5, even though I am registered Republican, I do exactly what you do. I look at the Candidates and see if he meets my expectations of a good honest person before I cast my vot. We all need to do this. Anyone who vwould vote a straight tickt is a fool in my mind.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        JKO, My Grandparents were Democrats from the Depression Era, if they were alive today, they’d be considered Conservatives!

        • JKO

          Same here and I agree that the democrats from the depression era are the conservatives of today.

    • DaveH

      Only a Pregressive Zealot could make a conflicted statement like that, Tim.

    • http://www.cbcofetowah.com/ Mike

      Tim, I hate to say it but the real problem is we no longer have a 2 party system. Once long ago the party in power was kept in check by the minority house through a system of checks and balances. Now that system is gone to one of whats your price?The republicans are spinless idiots for the most part and the dems are full of corrupt lifetime politirats. Untill this chain is broken by a 3rd party things will never change. I wasent really too encouraged by the last election in a lot of ways.These so called conservitive republicans all seem to have had their price or we wouldent still be argueing some of the same points we were argueing 3 years ago.Mike L.

    • Carlucci

      Hey Tim, They ALL SUCK!! It is not a Republican vs Democrat issue because they are all part of a two headed monster. There is no difference between the two parties. Wake up.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        There is supposed to be a difference between the two parties. Democrats are stringent in who is considered a Democrat and they weed out the Democrat wannabees. Republicans have no such strict rules and they allow anyone to claim to be a Republican and not have to prove it and that is why we get RHINOs. My son had to write a college paper in his Gov. class and the question to answer was about the two party system. In one of the searches this was the explanation for the Republicans dismal record.

    • Harold Olsen

      Oh, that is funny! Considering all the hate speech that comes from the left, you have no right to talk. When Bush was president, protestors carried signs that said, “Death to Bush” and “Kill Bush” and a lot of other vile crap. TEA party rallies were accused of similar things, but the big difference is there is proof on video of the left doing it but no proof that the right is doing it, just your lies. That is ALL the left does, make up lies because they don’t have any valid arguments. Why don’t you crawl back under your rock. It’s people like you why I consider Democrats and liberals to be one of the worst, if not the worst, hate groups in the country and why I will never vote for a Democrat or a liberal.

      • Carlucci

        Harold Olsen – Who in the world are you talking to?

        • GeorgeE

          I think he’s talking to Tim L. who posted at 8:13 AM today, not you.

    • Vigilant

      Tim, the leftists wrote the book on incivility and indecency.

      Sometimes when the right has become so beleaguered by the lies, insults and indecency of the left, they break down and fight fire with fire.

      At that point, the left cries “foul” and falls down on the floor in a weeping fit.

      Your Orwellian doublethink doesn’t carry any water here, rookie.

  • Lastmanstanding

    I am going to make one last plea to anybody who reads this.

    They have been and are coming for everything that any one right, left, center has…Everyday people are waking up. Everyday the dollar drops littlie by little…bernanke and geithner doing the shitty work of the bankers and politicians…penny by penny the rob all of us of the things that we have worked for our entire lives.

    For those of you on the govt. dole, that believe that the govt will take care of you and everyone else…the pain and betrayal that you will feel will be excruciating and I hope I can hear you screaming!

    You had better spend the last of worthless money buying things that will keep you alive when the dollar tanks.

    I realize that all of you socilist/commies here may find something snarkie to say, but there is the truth…something that you have always refused to hear.

    To the rest of you, May God strenghten you daily as I will be praying that people will be waking up to save our wonderful United States of America.

    Monkeys for christ sakes…TIME knows more about “real monkeys”
    TIME if you are around…thank you and God Bless your family.

    • kodster5

      AMEN!

    • karolyn

      “For those of you on the govt. dole, that believe that the govt will take care of you and everyone else…the pain and betrayal that you will feel will be excruciating and I hope I can hear you screaming!”

      Such a Christian sentiment! It’s people like you who give Christians a bad name.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Karolyn, Christians aren’t perfect, they only have perfect intentions with a help mate___GOD!

        • Bert Cundle

          Christians God,,, Sacrificed his SON.. ( No Family Value!)

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Bert, Do You Hear Laughter Pharaoh?

          • Robin from Arcadia, IN

            Jesus was sacrificed for you. Your sin is what held him on the cross. Mine, too. It was a perfect man who died in our place. You should be grateful.

          • Bert Cundle

            ROBIN: My Sins against God Will be taken care of by God!
            / / My Sins against anyone else should be taken care of by THEM! ( I’m CIVIL!)

          • Vigilant

            Bert says, “Christians God,,, Sacrificed his SON.. ( No Family Value!)”

            That’s a hot one! A leftist talking about family values!

            Your hypocrisy is exceeded only by your penchant for intellectual dishonesty. Better have a brain cell infusion so the single cell you have won’t feel so lonely.

        • karolyn

          Aneel – How can “perfect intentions” be representd by hateful talk???

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Karolyn__ C’mon, knock it off already, your asking for something that will not be done!__We are ALL passionate on here about the Country, NOW, if you choose_ you can either look all our debating as hate filled or WHATEVER, but its not going to stop, just because you don’t like it!!!__EITHER GET IN THE GAME, OR GET OUT, YOUR NOT GOING TO CHANGE IT!__

      • Bert Cundle

        Christians; already have a bad name to the rest of the world!

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          Hey Bert where the hells Ernie?_-Ya make about as much sense as they do! :)__Have a Great Day!

          • Vigilant

            C’mon, Angel, Bert and Ernie have had deeper thoughts than Cundle. I wouldn’t insult them like that. (:-)

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Vigilant, Oh hell what was I thinkin!??__lol

        • Robin from Arcadia, IN

          They always have. Are you trying to make a point? People make the choice of rejecting Christianity. God allows us to do this.

      • DaveH

        As usual, Karolyn focuses on the negative.
        Luckily, I am not Christian, so I can and will enjoy the day when the Progressives reap what they have sowed.

        • karolyn

          No, Dave, I focus on hypocrisy. I just had a discussion yesterday with a lovely Christian woman I work with. She said she had for so long denied totally giving in to being born again a Christian because she didn’t want to be like so many Christians she met who were such hypcrites. Of course, she realized she didn’t have to be like them but rather carry the word with love and not curse those who think differently and wish ill on them, revelling in their “screams.”

          • DaveH

            I know well, Karolyn, that you don’t see yourself as others see you.
            Can I buy that mirror please?

      • WayneT

        Folks, this is another person we should ignore. They certainly do not have the best interest of this country in mind.

        • Bert Cundle

          You choise to be IGNORANT, and wan’t others to join you!

          • WayneT

            You are a fool Bert. Get informed.

        • Bert Cundle

          This Country needs to be saved from Christian inflances!

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Hey Bert do us all a favor, and why don’t you take a LONG WALK OFF A SHORT PEER, That should your smart azzed mouth busy a while!!!__While your at it have a nice day! :)

          • GeorgeE

            Bert,

            What do you suggest we replace it with? Religion has done a lot to guide our culture and society. Removing all influences of Christianity (and I assume other religions) would have a very disruptive effect. As far as I’m aware there really isn’t anything else that can replace it in so far as helping keep our society in a orderly, civilized and peaceful state. It forms the basis for our values, morals, and ethics which sets a higher standard of personal conduct than the law requires. Our society is coming apart not because of influences from the Christian religion but because individuals no longer try to live up to the teachings of Christianity.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Well said George E! :)

          • Vigilant

            “This Country needs to be saved from Christian inflances! [sic]”

            When I find an “inflance” I’ll kill it, OK?

          • Vigilant

            GeorgeE,

            A most truthful and eloquent comment. I salute you!

            BTW, I’m not a Christian but have the good sense to recognize that in the absence of Christian influence, this nation never would have been founded on the sanctity of individual freedom. It’s very survival and flourishing as a beacon of light to the world depended on those values.

          • WayneT

            You are a fool Bert. I feel sorry for peiple like you.

      • Vigilant

        karolyn says,

        “Such a Christian sentiment! It’s people like you who give Christians a bad name.”

        Unlike the socialists, Christians don’t claim to be perfect.

    • TIME

      LMS,
      Thanks my friend may your Family be bless too.

      We all need to be strong now like never before we must all become the Leaders God wanted us to be. We are the chosen people those of us who are awake and see through the haze and rhetoric.
      Some of us will be taken in the Rapture some of us left to fight.
      We all we be judged by our actions nothing more so stand strong, those of us who pass will live for ever until “TIME” its self ends.

      People be “Courageous and stand STRONG for only the TRUTH.”
      We shall Overcome!

      We are stronger thus we can take the pain and turn it into a positive as we all have a deep Faith in GOOD & JUST as well we understand what the true meaning of LOVE is.
      Its not just a slogan its a way of life. Thus we will win over ALL EVIL.

      • http://www.cbcofetowah.com/ Mike

        Hello again Time, Good points all in all.I think hes been shaking us for a few years now and things will only become progressivly worse if we dont listen. I hope you and yours were spared by the recent weather as well. And my prayrs go out to thoes who werent. We have had to reach out to family here in my part of Tn. My bro in laws family is here with us. They didnt loose their house like alot of folks did but they will not have power for at least 3 more days if not longer. In the end times men will cry out for mercy but there will be none. I am beginning to see alot of cries for mercy arent you? Though we will never know the time of his comming we can look to the signs and see the warnings if only men will. Mike L.

        • WayneT

          Mike, my heart goes out to your family. I certainly hope that all works out ok for everyone. I have been watching this on TV. Our prayers are with everyone who has been touched by there terrible tornadoes. God Bless.

          • http://www.cbcofetowah.com/ Mike

            Wayne, Thanks We were somewhat spared here 2 of them passed within 10 miles of where we live. We mostly lost a few trees and have some fence and barn repairs still left to do. But compared to others I concider us blessed. Mike L.

          • Bert Cundle

            REMEMBER THE THREE (3) Little Pigs Story… Some say Build Your House on a Rock, Made of Stone! ( A Basement is, a good Idea.) Why Can’t the Government Help Citizans? Rather than FIGHT in FOREGN Wars!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Bert,
            Because they are too busy helping the ILLEGALS!!!!!!

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          Mike, Blessing to you & the Family. My God, I have seen all the destruction on TV. One cannot even imagine it, let alone seen in person, I’m sure.

          • libertytrain

            Yes, we must remember all – Alabama just took a tremendous hit.

    • JKO

      Right on LMS. We have cleaned the guns, bought the ammo and are stocking the food because YOU ARE RIGHT.

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      LMS, Well said and God Bless you and Yours too!

  • Insurgent

    All three branches of gubmint need term limits with NO retirement benefits. It is not a profession ————– it is a civic duty!!

  • Mick

    April 29, 2011 at 7:55 am
    Who cares Dan? I’ve gotten way past the point of being concerned if some liberal retard pulls out the race card because I despise Obama. He’s the worst president this country has ever had, although Lincoln, Lyndon Johnson, and Carter do give him a run for the money. And his supporters are so stupid that they can’t even make a believable phony birth certificate for him.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Robert,,,,
    i have never considered myself being a racist and always have tried to give credit where credit was due regardless of race or skin color, However with the constant trend of racism the liberals are pushing on a daily basis I find myself turning against some folks that may not deserve it..
    Liberals are creating an unfounded bias among the population That will eventually turn people against some of the good black people.

    • kodster5

      Hey, that’s already happening! The liberal blacks who have their hands out for entitlements are already calling the good black people who see the truth, “Uncle Toms”.

      But the Lord said during this time, people would turn against each other. “The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.” Luke 12:53… this applies to everyone, not just the family.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        kodster 5, Herman Cain and Allen West, both Black men who’ve seen the light. Both are constantly chastised for they’re beliefs.

        • Eddie47d

          EVERY politician is chastised for their beliefs and without exception. Some attack Obama and Cain because they are black but most who do are just against their particular policies not their blackness.

      • DaveH

        Chaos is the inevitable result of too much Government.

        For those who want Individual Freedom, Limited Government, Free Markets, Personal Responsibility, and Peace — Vote Libertarian!
        http://libertarianparty.org/

  • http://GOOGLE SUNBUM

    Obama and his commie friends have one agenda(BANKRUPT THE COUNTRY) He has 2 more years to do it in. Go ahead Democrats looking for a handout give him 4 more years!!! Remember this, freeloaders: “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have” Thomas Jefferson.

  • Ronald, Maryland

    I like the monkey training analogy, but doubt it would work with politicians. Brain damaged monkeys do not respond rationally… either.

  • Edmond

    Sir:
    You’re steeped in traditional Freudian and Pavlov bullcrap. And guess what, if Africans are related to monkeys, they’ve been related to them well over a million years and guess what? Where do you think the White Man comes from if the Black Man was first? Correct. From the Black Man. The White Man is a clone from the Black Man. You thought genetic engineering was something new. I think that instead of looking for ways to diminish the Black Man, you should try to understand where you come from. Blacks became dark because of millions of years under the Sun. You have been around for less than six or seven thousand years. I hate to inform you, though genetically engineered, who could create a soul. Nobody but God thru Jesus Christ. That’s why you are also heir to the promises. You’ll be redeemed with the rest after you get though “F”in up the earth. It will end in a Big Bang, one like you have never seen before. Finally Sir, European psychology doesn’t fit the African mindset. It was created by Europeans for Europeans. So even though your article was politically correct and steeped in institutional racism, it was entertaining and cryptic for the suckers who have no Knowledge and who can’t think for themselves.

    • Bob

      Your thinking is as twisted as your theology. You misuse Scripture and you don’t even know that, according to Scripture, none of us have been around for millions of years. You aren’t even smart enough to know that a clone is an exact replica of the the one from which the clone was cloned.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Edmond… Are you trying to say that the monkey analogy was directed at blacks? What are you smoking? It was an analogy to Congress, nothing more and nothing less. If I am wrong on this, I am hoping someone will correct me!

      • louie

        Robin, I think Edmond is rolling his “weed” in his race cards & smoking them…hoping others won’t notice. Some people just can not help but bring race into any & everything.

        • Bear

          Louie,
          Can we safely say that he hates everyone equally? LOL :)

    • louie

      Gosh Edmond, you sure seem to know a lot about training monkeys. Are you sure you are not a former trainee!?

    • Doug

      This had nothing to do with RACE unless you are referring to saying monkies are below politicians. I would rather vote for a money then 99% of the politicians today. And from my 52 years on this earth those who sream racisim are usually the most prejudice of all. Example Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, Bill Clinton, Jimmy crackcorn peanut Carter. And don’t forget the dumbasscrats which bascially came from the KKK.

      • Bert Cundle

        BEING RACIST is a GOOD Thing!!! Don’t Knock it!

      • Carlucci

        “Jimmy crackcorn peanut Carter”. LOL – ! Good one. Describes him to a T.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      You have selective learning. What color was Adam and Eve? What color were Noah and his family?
      Stop with the race BS, race has no morals and no virtues.

  • Edmond

    If we can talk intelligently about saving our children and women from the horror to come, leave out RACE AND WHITE SUPREMACY. It has the world on the brink of disaster. Get on you knees, right where you are and ask the good Lord to teach you that it is not about YOU! It’s about his plan to save us. “It is not God’s wish that any should perish. . . do it now. I DARE YOU!!! “Only the “pure” in heart shall see (realize the saving Grace) God. Do it Now.

    • Bob

      You seem to be the only one here who is obsessed with race; no one here is talking about white supremacy. The race card doesn’t work here Emond, go back to the Huff Post where they eat that garbage up.

      • Edmond

        Damit Bob, if you only knew what “Institutional Racism” is, you’d have a greater impact on this World. Even you, you can’t see it because it is a part of your personality. You assume and pressume to much. Presumption is sinfull. You can’t assume that White People have all the sense. Listen to me good man. When you appear before the Throne of Judgement, you will be asked whether you took care of the poor, providing food clothing and shelter. Now in your mind, that applies to White Children only, if it didn’t, as rich as this country is, you would expect someone to step up and say, Hey! Let’s feed the children. If you can throw money away on wars and going to the moon, you can feed children. If this is “the” Bob (Livingston), please delete my subscription. I’m insulted that the only thing you had to say was something about the worn tired out “race card” defense. I heard a Muslim say that the other day. I asked him with a dog:( on my mouth and fire in my eyes, “what the hell he knew about a race card?” I asked him twice and he never answered. I knew what he was thinking inside, “I better not say anything, this —– looks suicidal too.”

        • libertytrain

          Edmond, when Bob Livingston comments he uses his whole name.

      • Eddie47d

        ….are you sure about that Bob?

        • DaveH

          Do you have evidence to the contrary, troll?

          • Eddie47d

            Go back to your Oreo cookie Dave.

          • JeffH

            …of course not…see 47D’s response…

          • Eddie47d

            Still no banana award for you Jeff or even Dave.Now climb back into your tree.

  • louie

    I knew them scientists were gonna keep train’ them monkeys ’til one ‘uv ‘um was smart enough for a bunch of idiots to put him in White House so that he could play the game “trying to be president” while the members of congress sat bach & applauded him!?

  • WayneT

    All I can say ia if we would only elect honest people to be our president, and Congress Members, that loved their country, our problems would be over. Where do we find such people anymore? Even when we find them, the stupid electorate votes in the ones with the most hot air that can give a good speech, but lacks good qualities. How can people elect Congress Members like Charlie Rangel who is in charge of the tax laws that does not pay his own taxes, and gets reelected back in Congress. This does not speak well for the idiots in his district. The below quote was e-mailed to me. It explains what I am trying to say, but this explains it much better. It cannot be said any better than this. I rest my case, your honour.

    QUOTE OF THE CENTURY, MAYBE EVEN THE MILLENNIUM
    Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way you can understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there has it figured out. We have a lot of work to do.

    “The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”

    • Nadzieja Batki

      The media lets us Americans know everything and I mean everything about the people who would be politicians, including how much lint they have in their belly buttons. They omit the most important which is the character of these politicians. We are told by the media how wonderful the jackasses are that we have now and we have the majority of the population believing such in spite of the fact the politicians lie and lie. What is it about lies that they are believed and the truth is not. That Democrats are short on truth is common knowledge, but why the Republicans are so cowardly is beyond me. Unless Democrats know how to weed out the weak in their midst, but the Republicans take anybody into the Republican party without checking to see if they a really espouse Republican values. The Republicans have enemies in the camp and they don’t purge them.

  • Ronald, Maryland

    I believe in the ‘big bang theory,’ I believe God clapped his hands and said, “Let there be life.”

    Obama is creating an ever widening gulf between decent white folks and decent black folks for no better reason than political expediency!

  • DaveH

    Actually the dictator Lincoln instituted the first Income Tax in 1861. It was repealed in 1872. But that did certainly create the seed for the next rendition of the Income Tax in 1913.

  • Nadzieja Batki

    Thank you for a great wake up article.

  • http://www.singuseniors.com Bobbie

    Loved the analogy to the trained monkeys; that is definitely a perfect comparison to our congress (small c is deliberate). Ryan was indeed brave to suggest cuts to social security (which was never intended to be our total income–it was a supplement to what we worked to put away in savings), medicare and medicaid. If all the people who are illegals, non-citizens or phony disabled were removed from the rolls, there would be plenty to sustain the legitimate recipients in this country. Medicaid is the same mess; it is so generous to people who shouldn’t be receiving it that there is no money left to help those who really do need it–and it takes away the incentive to be self-reliant. I have always agreed that a flat tax for everybody, with no loopholes, etc. would be the fairest way to tax. 10% across the board would be very fair; people who make a million would still pay a lot more than Joe Blow, who makes 10 thousand. It is all relative. The problem comes into play when there are so many “hidey holes” in the current tax law for people with very rich income, like huge corporations not only don’t pay taxes, but get a refund. Something wrong with THAT picture. We need to put God back into this country also; without Him we are bound to fail.

    • DaveH

      Even a Flat Rate Tax would not be ‘fair’. The only truly fair tax would be the same tax for every adult in the country. After all, a car salesman doesn’t ask for an income statement before he prices a car does he? We all are guaranteed equal treatment under the law, so why should some of us pay taxes Unequally?
      But Government leaders don’t want a ‘fair’ tax. They want whatever will get them the most money to waste, and using Class Envy as a tool gets them more money to waste. Those Rich people that Leaders want us to envy would employ their money a lot more productively than Government does.
      We need to get together and get our Federal Government back to the size and function as envisioned by our wise Founders such as Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, George Washington, and others who tried to protect us with the Constitution. But obviously, the Constitution was not enough to protect us from the natural tendency of Leaders to grow their power and perks. The only real protection is an educated electorate.

  • http://! Angel Wannabe

    Good Article!, Our real problem lies herein, William Penn said it best_”"Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants. We were arrogant and thought we knew best and strayed from Gods wisdom, and subsequently we now are paying for it.
    If you deny God, he’ll deny you, it’s fairly simple. At one time God was prayfully sought in every aspect of life. Today, the tyrants seek to remove him. The only saving grace we have is, that the Bible and God’s word, have burned, slashed and spat on, although tattered, his word and truth always emerge unscathed to those who believe. Like Pharoah said to Neferteri in the Ten Commandments, “His God, is GOD”!

    • Bob

      Amen – a country that denies God will eventually be denied by Him.

      • Bert Cundle

        THE REAL GOD “ISN’T A HIM / HER…

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          bert, hey folks, Did Bert say Something?_-What a howl!

        • Vigilant

          Wow, it’s nice to see an atheist who has such profound knowledge of the almighty. Your source, sonny?

          • KKuurus

            Not an attack on Christians.

            Genisis : Male and Female created He them. In his own image created He them.

            Just saying, seems god may not have a sex as we know it.

            Blessed be.

  • Edmond

    You’re wrong Bob. You are going by History. His-Story. Your story. The story the way Whites would like it perceived. So I guess that Black Men didn’t build the Pyramids and that Musa (Moses) King Solomon, his son David weren’t Black. Answer me on this question so I can determine if the conversation is even worth it.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Sorry sweetie, but King David was ruddy meaning red haired.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You also have the life timeline wrong. Moses wasn’t the father of David or Solomon.

      • karolyn

        Haou never seen a black man with red hair?

        • karolyn

          Sorry this stupid keyboard sticks. I meant “Have you……”

        • Bob

          Maybe your keyboard sticks because of the uncontrollable drooling of those who aren’t real bright. Once again you have proven your limitless ability to perpetuate lies while ignoring the truth. And yes, I have seen blacks with red hair, but none with a ruddy complexion. David was a Semite and you are a fool.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          karolyn,
          Yes I have, I used to work with one! What does that have to do with the price of tea in China??? I’ve also seen white skinned Blacks! There’s a whole Race(?) of them in Panama. They are called the sanblas.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Edmond… I probably am racist to a degree, but I don’t know anyone who is so hung up on the issue as you. Obama is as much white as he is black. I wouldn’t vote on color. That would be just plain wrong.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Edmond,
      I’ll go along with what you sa as soon as you show me some indisputable proof!!!

  • Edmond

    Nadzieja Batki, I think if a committee exposes their, and their relatives, check books, along with there assets and the way they invested, the truth will be known. These guy don’t care about anything but dividends to the hurt of our country. They like many others are what Jesus called “Whited Sepulchres.” They look the part but their hearts ain’t right.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Business is in the business of making money.It is everyones job to make as much money as is possible without it being taken away. Each Individual decides what the right amount is. Are people supposed to work to give out handouts through the government to free loaders?

  • Bob

    You are the racist here and you are a liar on top of it. Moses, David, and Solomon were semites – not blacks and the Egyptians had some Nubian rulers but, for the most part, they were the same ethnic group as today’s Egyptians (and I suspect that today’s Egyptians would also dispute your insane comments). You apparently get your “teaching” from some combination of Afro-centrist (racist) garbage with a little bit of “Jacub’s History” from the black muslim racists. Your father is truly the father of lies and you really should go back to the huff post where lying and revisionist history are welcomed.

    • karolyn

      Is skin color mentioned in the Bible?

      • Bob

        Your point?

        • karolyn

          How do you know who was white and who was black?

          • Bob

            It is a fact that Abraham and his descendants were Semites, not black, not white, but Semites. If you want to join Edmond in claiming they are black, you are joining in a lie. Even the atheist archeologists know that the Jews and their ancestors were Semitic. But, truth does not matter to post-modernist new age cretins because, to them, truth is mutable and subjective.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        No.

      • JKO

        Actually in Song of Solomon color is mentioned. In Biblical times people knew skin color by the area and region a person was from, so they did not have to mentioned skin color. The world was not as diverse in those times as it is today.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          There is a question by Bible scholars if the young woman’s race is indicated.The young woman was sunburned, suntanned. She spent her life working out in the elements. She wasn’t pampered in the palace with creams and ointments.

  • Edmond

    Anyway, I’ll leave you White Folks alone before I make enemies.
    A Beautiful Web page Bob, but I think I’ll stick with thehill magazine, at least the comments aren’t so shallow.

    • Bob

      They are the truth – your comments are shallow and they are lies. I’ll bet that you also believe the Afro-centrist lie that Africans once had wings.

      • Edmond

        I love you Bob and think you need to look a little deeper.

        • Bob

          Into what Edmond – the lies that you have swallowed hook, line, and sinker?

          • Gregg Jackson

            Bobbo – I think Edmond means you need to look into your soul – if a bucket of sh!t like you has one.

          • DaveH

            Gregg is obviously one of those “civil” progressives.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Gregg
            I hope you don’t hold yourself up as a shining example!!!!If so, BOB!!! Leave it alone!!!!!

  • Bert Cundle

    Politican is a Dirty Word! They replace the one before them, to fix things, but can’t & don’t! There goal seems to be; Destroy as much as I can while in office!
    “WHO” IS OUR DEBT TO: “WHY” DID THE $ GET BORROWED? “TRUTH” Will most likely leed to the Government in CRIMINAL form!

    • Bert Cundle

      We Need to ABOLISH the LOBY LAWS & Loby Request for $ to their Designations!

      • Vigilant

        What we need to abolish are posters like you who haven’t even a rudimentary grasp of the English language, mush less a clear thinking pattern.

        • Vigilant

          Make that “much less.” “Mush” applies to the detritus between Cundle’s monkey ears.

  • Eddie47d

    This will get your feathers flying. The Monkeys (corporations and the greedy rich)have long ago abandoned this country. They will do anything to keep others from entering their kingdoms. These Monkeys will apply all their tricks of the trade to keep others from enjoying what they possess. These Monkeys will use tax breaks,cronyism and the good old boy network to keep anyone else from getting a piece of their pie. These Monkeys will devour the competition and spit them out like like a trip to the trash dump. They don’t want competition to take away the mountains of cash they have and will fight anyone who tries to break up their monopoly. The real Monkeys banks,corporations and these business elites are operating the organ grinders which have turned the rest of us into naive little monkeys.

    • Bob

      Eddie: if it weren’t for these “evil corporations” there would be no excess production to support lieberal parasites. I guess you don’t remember that your socialist pigtopias like the USSR, China, Cuba, and North Korea were constantly running short of food and consumer goods after they murdered/expelled these “evil capitalists”. China and Russia are booming today only because they allowed the evil capitalists back in. Lieberal parasites such as yourself should kiss the feet of these “evil” capitalists because, without them, you would be starving and naked. Lieberalism and socialism are traps for the stupid and lazy.

    • DaveH

      Crony Capitalists are bad. But to confuse all corporations with Crony Capitalists is equally bad. Unfortunately, Crony Capitalism has been with us since the dictator Lincoln expanded the role of the Federal Government immensely to that of aiding private corporations through direct subsidies, protectionist tariffs, and competition-stifling regulations.
      We need to roll our politics back 150 years to that time in our country’s life where Jefferson concepts of Freedom, Limited Government, and State sovereignty were the rule of the day.
      We need to reinstitute Free Markets and respect for other peoples’ property, so that Greedy people like Eddie can’t just help themselves to other peoples’ money.

      • Eddie47d

        Oh yes Dave I’ve taken so much from others. NOT!! What exactly have I taken without earning? Don’t trip over your crystal ball trying to figure that one out. I guess I could say you are one of the flying monkey’s from the WIZ which makes about as much sense as your accusations.

        • DaveH

          Whenever you join with a Union to coerce money from others, or whenever you vote for your Liberal buddies to take money from others.
          Yes indeed, Eddie, you are Greedy.

          • Bert Cundle

            What do you think U.S. of A. would be like if not For A.F. of L. / C.I.O… There wouldn’t even be a minimum wage law! Foreigners wouldn’t have flooded U.S. of A. for a better place to come & prosper. To brake down conitions…

          • DaveH

            No Unions. Horrors! If Union members are as valuable as they think, and if Big Government lovers hadn’t made it more difficult to start a business (to protect their Crony Capitalists), they could just start their own businesses and earn what they’re really worth.
            No minimum wage? You mean lesser skilled workers and youngsters that wanted to learn a work ethic could find a job? We can’t have that:
            http://mises.org/daily/2130

          • independant thinker

            “Foreigners wouldn’t have flooded U.S. of A. for a better place to come & prosper.”

            Foreigners were flooding to the US long before the unions as we know them were conceived. They came here for the freedom and the chance to better themselves that did not exist in their home countries.

    • http://www.cbcofetowah.com/ Mike

      Hello Eddie, Yes I see your points I think the only area we differ somewhat is in solutions. I for one support the fair tax. If everyone paid the same across the bord.There would be no need for tax lobbiest. Mike L.

    • JeffH

      What I see in 47D’s comment is that he picks up many of his “talking points” from both sides of the isle, uses them, but just doesn’t understand them. He’s what is known as a “Pete the repeater”. I heard it so I’ll say it, never mind that I don’t understand it.

      What 47D refuses to understand, and it’s been repeated hundreds of times, is that no corporation can control what we consume without governments full co-operation, which blows 47D’s reasoning out of the water.

      Crony capitalism is a term describing an allegedly capitalist economy in which success in business depends on close relationships between business people and government officials. It may be exhibited by favoritism in the distribution of legal permits, government grants, special tax breaks, and so forth.

      Crony capitalism is believed to arise when political cronyism spills over into the business world; self-serving friendships and family ties between businessmen and the government influence the economy and society to the extent that it corrupts public-serving economic and political ideals.

      crony capitalism: enrichment of well-connected: the flow of wealth to a small group of people who are already wealthy and well connected

      • Eddie47d

        I get it Jeff. I see the follies on both sides and see the need to change from both sides. My opinion is more liberal and yours is more conservative. I don’t think we’ll be holding hands soon so let’s agree to be disagreeable.

        • JeffH

          47D, that’s the point, you don’t get it contrary to what you say. You’re right, we’ll never be holding hands and I shutter to think that you would even say it…reminds me of some of your fantasies from the past.

          • Eddie47d

            Yada,Yada,Yada!

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Eddie… You are so jealous! Do you covet wealth? Do you gamble in hopes of being a winner?

      • Eddie47d

        Don’t gamble or buy lottery tickets so what is your point Dave H. Jr err…Robin?

    • JeffH

      I do hope you’re not too disappointed in the lack of “flying feathers”. I’m sure you counted on a lot more and nastier responses.
      Most of us already know where you’re coming from and what you’re all about 47D.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Why don’t you stop complaining and whining about the wealthy in this country and do something to create your own wealth. All men who start companies or industry took a wild leap of faith that they would succeed. They don’t owe anyone a living. They don’t owe you a job.If they expand and hire, they do the choosing who works for them. Kindly, say thank you and be grateful.
      Businesses would not have gone overseas if it wasn’t for whiny weasels wanting to steal from them and using the thuggish arm of the government to regulate them.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Eddie 47 likes to stir up arguments but he also plays the devil’s advocate. I give him credit for both.

  • Amy

    Makes a good point, monkey see, monkey do! It also shows that people-not reviewing their choice in voting, will vote for the “popular candidte”. This is misleading in the fact that the mass media is biased in reporting the issues and giving equal coverage,but giving a blackout to the candidates who will put their country first on every issue.

    This is why it is most important that each Congressional District make a concerted effort to find that patriot who, once in Congress, will not forget those who put him/her there. Will not be bribed and think selfshly for himself, but what is best for his country…just as the founding fathers, truly great statesmen,whom we hardly find…that is why it is necessary for the Congressional District seek their out their candidates, and thus put out the inflitrators controlling our ballot boxes…This will take more work and effort, but less money…and not necessarily need a Billion dollars to run a campaign, as Obama is doing for his 2012 re-election bid….

  • Dennis Patrick

    Hey, Chipper! Where is a progressive income tax in any of Marx’s writing? Calling it “This vital element of Karl Marx’s Communist Manifesto” is pretty far off. Unless you can back that up, I can assume that this is just another “hyperbole gone mad” (and far from the truth) from you.

    • DaveH
      • DaveH

        And I might add that it would behoove you to do a little research before you slander people. It was very easy for me to find the info. It would have been equally easy for you, Dennis.

        • Dennis Patrick

          Doing research does not mean regurgitating right-wing talking points from crackpot sites like libertyzone. Marx’s ultimate goal of a communistic society was the withering away of the state (something, it seems, the libertarians agree with). If you place this item (and other items listed by another poster) in context, you will see these are not Communist party “planks” (according to libertyzone.com)but merely “measures” to “to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralise all instruments of production in the hands of the State, i.e., of the proletariat organised as the ruling class; and to increase the total productive forces as rapidly as possible.” (Quoting Marx)

          These are not end-goals, these are not planks of communism: read the next lines: “When, in the course of development, class distinctions have disappeared, and all production has been concentrated in the hands of a vast association of the whole nation, the public power will lose its political character. Political power, properly so called, is merely the organised power of one class for oppressing another. If the proletariat during its contest with the bourgeoisie is compelled, by the force of circumstances, to organise itself as a class, if, by means of a revolution, it makes itself the ruling class, and, as such, sweeps away by force the old conditions of production, then it will, along with these conditions, have swept away the conditions for the existence of class antagonisms and of classes generally, and will thereby have abolished its own supremacy as a class.”

          In place of the old bourgeois society, with its classes and class antagonisms, we shall have an association, in which the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all.”

          An ipso facto assumption is blatantly incorrect here. As is calling anyone who advocates a progressive tax a communist. Are you a communist if you believe in “Equal liability of all to work”? Or a central or national bank (ie the Federal Reserve)? Or – GASP – “Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form.” Okay – maybe that is too socialistic for you…

          • JeffH

            Marx describes communists by saying that “they have no interests separate and apart from those of the proletariat as a whole.”

            In other words, they’re selfless and they have no ambitions for power whatsoever. And if you believe that, I have some swamp land in Florida to sell you. The reality of communism is that every communist revolution in history has been precipitated by a small group of people who gave themselves enormous power while trampling upon the rights and freedoms of the people. Neo-marxists defend this ugly history by saying that a “true” communist would not commit the sins of Leninism, Maoism, Stalinism, etc., but they fail to realize that communism seeks to take power from the masses by its very nature, by replacing free markets (which are controlled by the masses) and competing corporations (which the masses can punish, reward, or even destroy) with government monopolies, which the public has no power to directly control (to say nothing of punishing or destroying them if they are displeased with their performance).

            “The immediate aim of the Communists is the same as that of all other proletarian parties: Formation of the proletariat into a class, overthrow of the bourgeois supremacy, conquest of political power by the proletariat.”

            Ludicrous fantasy. An entire social class cannot seize power. Instead, it can only appoint representatives to take that power. No matter what flowery language Karl Marx chooses to use, the simple reality is that government power will always be in the hands of the few, regardless of whether that government is communist or capitalist. The only question is how much power we want that government to have, and Marx made the mistake of assuming that the more power the government had, the more power the masses would have. This is a very serious “have your cake and eat it too” fallacy; you cannot simultaneously give more power to the masses and to the government! Marx felt that free markets are undemocratic and unfair, but in reality, free markets are actually more democratic than governments, communist or otherwise. They actually respond to the whims of the masses, while governments only make promises. Look at Wal-Mart; its profits dwarf that of every rich person’s boutique and specialty store in America. Now look at your federal capital: is there any venue there where your average Wal-Mart customer would be taken seriously?
            http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/Marxism.html

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Really good post.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            I am always curious as to why progrssives want to be messiahs and rescue all who can’t accomplish anything. Businesses do not owe anyone a job, a living, education or anything else that people demand. Businesses are run by men to make as much money as they are capable of. I am all for this.
            Envy is behind communism/socialism or any other ism. The enviers cannot accomplish anything because as humans they are dismal failures but they will make sure that anyone else will not get ahead.

          • Lou Sarah

            Oooh — JeffH really showed Dennis! When you follow that link he posted, you find that the author was not a well-known critic of Communism (and there are many, many, many of these to choose from). No – it’s Michael Wong! Porn loving atheist. Yes – this site actually says “I like porno”. What to go Jeffie!!!

            http://www.stardestroyer.net/Mike/

        • JeffH

          DaveH, you again are correct. Dennis’ attempted Alinsky method can’t change the facts. The Communist Manifesto and within this manifesto
          Marx wrote down 10 Planks. These 10 Planks are the basic building blocks to a perfect Communist society.

          Dennis Patrick, The second plank in the Communist Manifesto, you will read: A heavy and progressive, or graduated income tax.
          http://www.jeremiahproject.com/culture/10-planks-of-communism.html

          • DaveH

            Dennis is one of those who prefers the eyes wide shut approach. No amount of proof could convince Dennis because he just doesn’t want to face reality.

          • Lou Sarah

            JeffH – can’t you read? Tactics to get rid of the ruling classes and plans to govern are two different things – despite what the crackpots, crazies and nuts are whispering in your ears. Blame it on your Alinsky blind spot. Or are you sharing Lady Rush’s oxycontin?

          • JeffH

            Lou, you’re a little late for the dance. I can tell ’cause nobody is home!

        • DaveH

          Don’t flatter yourself, Dennis. Libertarians believe in Freedom. Communists believe in helping themselves to the property of others.

          • DaveH

            Libertarians are the opposite extreme of Communists. Libertarians believe in voluntary contracts. Communists believe in forcing their way on others in their vain attempt at “equality”.
            There is no such as “equality”. It exists only in the minds of envious people. That’s why Communism has never worked. Very few people look at the Hard Worker, and say “I want to be just like him”. Most people look at the Slacker and say “Why should I work hard, he doesn’t?”. So, they seek the lowest common denominator. Even if it was a moral pursuit (it’s not by far), Communism just doesn’t work. Under Communism, people are equal all right — equally poor.
            And no matter how you fantasize it, Dennis, the truth is that people can’t possess the goods equally. There always has to be somebody who has possession of the goods, and who decides what “equal” is (usually to their own benefit). Since Communism is a bankrupt philosophy and the properous hard-working people will not accept it voluntarily, it can only exist with force.

  • Harold Olsen

    The big difference between Congress and the monkeys is that the monkeys are far more intelligent. Congress never seems to learn anything. I am convinced that the combined IQ count of all members of both houses can be counted on a single hand and when finished you will still have four fingers and a thumb left over. Is there intelligent life in DC? It doesn’t seem so.

  • barbm

    chip can defend the mega rich all he wants, but i’m not buying it. they’d rather give their money to a charity than help solve our fiscal crisis. charity should be done for charity’s sake, not for a tax deduction. bill gates is building schools in other countries – admirable, i guess, but why not help here? charity begins at home. a flat tax would be more fair, so it won’t happen. no matter the party, they won’t hurt the super wealthy because that’s where they go with their hands out begging for campaign funds. taxing the millionaires and billionaires isn’t the same as taxing the businesses they own or for which they work. but, if a business has most of its employees in a foreign country, we should tax them so high it’d be cheaper for them to bring the jobs home. cut taxes for the companies that keep our jobs here.

    • DaveH

      We shouldn’t tax businesses at all. The corporate tax is just another sneaky way for Greedy leaders to confiscate more of our money. The reality of Corporate Tax is that they either have to raise their product prices, lower the wages of their workers, go out of business if the first two don’t work, or move out of the country. All of those things hurt we the people. It is all about the leaders gaining more power and perks, damn the rest of us.

      • GeorgeE

        Very well said, DaveH. I wish more people understood what you are saying. If they did, I believe they would see the need for tax simplification. The last thing the government wants is for citizens to see just how much tax they are actually paying by consolidating all taxes into one payment. Politicians would rather tax us a little in a million ways and collect a little with each transaction or each month or quarter so it doesn’t seem like a lot of money taken all at one time. Corporate tax is just one of the many ways they tax us. Thanks.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Why are you so envious. If you want to be wealthy do something about it. But you would rather that the wealthy lose their wealth and you would be gleeful at their misery.

      • barbm

        not at all. if you have a good idea, the imagination, backing, and will to make a million, good on you. i think everybody should pay a flat rate with no deductions. those who make under $25,000 would get theirs back but no earned income credit. there’s no reason for the govt to reward people for working – it should be the norm. i have all i need so don’t envy anybody, but everybody should pay their fair share. taking 10% from somebody earning $2000 a month is a lot and has a big effect on his style of living. to a millionaire, he’d still live GREAT. it might mean one less car and vacation, but he’d still live in a mansion, buy designer clothes, ski in austria every winter, send his kids to harvard. it wouldn’t affect him at all. i’d go for leaving corporations alone if they’d all bring their jobs home and pay good wages with good bennies.

  • iam

    Those of you who never went to an Ivy League University simply are not intelligent enough to understand economics. Let me explain it to you in terms that even you dolts will comprehend. The only way to reduce the debt is to add more debt. The larger the debt grows, the smaller it is. We have to take on a debt that is so crushing that it will magically disappear within a few short years. There. Aren’t you glad I explained it to you? Now, go have your milk and cookies and lie down for your nap. Let us geniuses run the country. After all, it is our country, not yours.

    • Bob

      Good satire, and very much like the “thinking” of Eddie, Karolyn, Gregg, and the rest of the lieberal sewage.

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      iam, OMG, I love me, who do you love, get over yourself!!!_-Funny as hell!

      • Carlucci

        I’m just wondering if iam dropped acid this morning. His rants sound like Dr. Timothy Leary’s.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          Carlucci, too Funny! ;)

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      iam… Did you attend the same universities as Barry? He thinks as you do!

    • iam

      It appears that Bob is the only one who understands. The rest of you, who can only insult me instead of “getting it,” are never going to solve any problems. You, as much as the left you protest, make me feel sad for this country.

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      Read your post,never laughed so hard,thats the problem with this nation,as you said in so truthful,you masters of the universe have been running the show,the end result is from the worlds greatess economy,we are now a bankrupt nation,and guess what? put that one on your kingly crown,you arrogant buffon,thats the problem too many know it alls,that have never known anything about real life,except what they percieve in the golden castles they live in.guess what? there may be 90 million americans that may tell you,best wake up,and come to the real world,the ship is sinking,oh mighty master of the universe, and the slaves are not happy(NORMAL PEOPLE).

  • stratus

    Obviously Dennis Patrick has never read the Communist Manifesto completely or he would not have written what he did. For those who have not read it, here are the 10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto:
    (see website http://www.indepthinfo.com/communist-manifesto/text.shtml)

    1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

    2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

    3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

    4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

    5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

    6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state.

    7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

    8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

    9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.

    10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc.

    • Carlucci

      Dennis sounds like a “visitor” from Moveon or ACORN. Bugger off, Dennis.

    • Dennis Patrick

      Oh my – free public education!!!!!! The USA must be overwhelmed by commies!!!

      Read my comments above rebutting the libertyzone.com crackpots.

      • JeffH

        Dennis Patrick, face it, you rebutted nothing.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          JefH,
          Now give him his due! He rebutted his intelligence!!!

  • Bob

    Greg Jackson: It is good to be called a bucket of sh*t by a lieberal degenerate such as yourself; it means that I am on the right side of God. If you belief the witless ravings of Edmond and the other lieberal trolls, you are just as mindless and evil as they are.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Bob.. I don’t think I am a total dimwit, but I just didn’t get the posts that Edmond was posting. Rather than ask him, I thought you might be able to enlighten me!

      • Bob

        Edmond is apparently one who has been “taught” by those who teach Afro-centrism and Jacub’s history; both of which are black racist teachings. Afro-centrism teaches that blacks once had wings, built the pyramids, and were a “master” race until the whites oppressed them. That may be off a little bit, but that is what little I know of this false teaching. Jacub’s (spelling?)history is a teaching that the white man is of satan and that he is responsible for the evil in the world today. This is a black muslim racist teaching. These teachings seem to be what Edmond is referring to; at least that is the best I can figure from the twisted, racist nonsense he is babbling. These teachings offer insight into the mind of black racists, but they offer no truth.

  • Rich

    Wow, the word racist is thrown around like it means something. The concept of race was disavowed in the early 1960′s by anthropologists who had given up on classification of people by race. The term is obsolete except for the one race, the human race. Using the term racist creates a division where none exists. It is now used as a pejorative term to offend someone when actually those using the word are displaying ignorance of themselves.

    • Mike in MI

      Now, Rich, be careful -
      If you go and take away all of their pejoratives they’ll be left virtually with out things to talk about on this site. That would be a downright shame because then they’d have to go study or, unlikely as it sounds, get informed (accidentally) about something
      Then if they came back here and tried to talk to somebody they’d make complte unadulterated reason and show some sense. It’d ruin their reps.

  • ElIndependente

    It’s so amusing to see Republicans talking serious about things as if people will listen to them. Don’t you guys have some Kenyan birth certificate conspiracies to uncover? lol

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      hey Depends, Bladder control problem of the mouth, Time for all Liberal trolls to pick up they’re paychacks ‘n’ tell Soro’s we asked about him!!!!

      • Mike in MI

        Angel -
        That’s assuming they ever can find their asses, let alone el-in dependente. ‘At’s a BIG-G-G-g order unless you send a state case worker to help them.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          Mike in MI___LMAO!

    • DaveH

      What is amusing is people who make ridiculous assumptions, like that we are all Republicans, or that people will not listen to us.
      You’re laughing out loud? Why, are you looking in the mirror?

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Daveh, Yeah the Jackazz!

      • JeffH

        Anymore, all I can do is shake my head and laugh at them. They just assume everyone else but themselves are ignorant.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          Yeah jeffh, seems more and more libbies everyday, waz up wit dat?

          • JeffH

            Angel Wannabe, if memory serves me right, it’s always been that way.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Sad but true Jeffh!

    • Bob

      Independant of what? Certainly not the lies of the lying lieberals. You are just another pre-programmed lieberal babbler.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Then why are you here, Ellndependente? It must be that you need to be enlightened.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Why are you on this site?

  • http://com i41

    We have a definite monkey in the WH, always playing and on vacation. He has been trained to read and spout the same s–t that the telepromotor tells him to, but is still a worthless f–k in society, a parasite. Percentage of population on welfare programs are minorities or a blend. Eddeee hates capitalism because his ancestors were under a socialist system of stealing as a normal way to acquire something of value, reservations were the worst thing the democrat beltway idoits did to indans. They are generation wards of the government. The idea of marxist/communist socialists is to have everyone under a government wonk. Onumnutts has always been a ward of some one, a sheik, government programs, his education schedule when in a madraases, supposed colleges and back to government cradle for life now. One worthless non productive f–k in society and a democrap no less, which the blacks have proved to be in elections, just look at the prison populations, to dumb to get a job and can not produce something useful in society.

  • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

    Good article Chip. However, I was under the ipresson that the 16th was approved in January of 1913 when the 36th state approved it. Wilson did not take office until March 4, 1913.

    I think Taft got it rolling in 1908 or 1909. AT least that is what I recall from Goodling it quite some time ago and reading a Wikipedia article.

  • http://foundersrevolution.blogspot.com patriot1776

    Good article indeed Chip. However I am convinced that even if we were to replace ALL the monkeys the “problem” would NOT go away. You see, the “problem” has been institutionalized through the force of law and the courts. Spending on “entitlements” is by law set to increase EVERY YEAR. It’s a cost of living increase thing!(B.S.) Not to mention the fact that even if ALL of Congress were replaced you would still have the lobbyists, lawyers, unions, corporations, activist organizations, and “non-profits” who buy the votes ready to impose their will on 310,000 people, just using a new catalyst.
    Once again THERE IS NO FEDERAL ELECTORAL SOLUTION TO THIS “PROBLEM”! We MUST again turn to the founders for their wisdom of knowing that you CANNOT govern an entire Nation from a central location(D.C.). The Federal Government MUST be held to it’s constitutionally mandated powers and ALL ELSE is to be left to the State or the individual respectivly. This is why we are doomed…….the American people have been trained to believe that our Federal masters have the solution to all of our problems and most cannot fathom having the State government having more power than the Federal government as it was intended to be. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything away!! Decentralize power, focus on your STATE officials. Washington is hopeless!!!!!

  • Matt

    At least monkeys are trainable. By the time people reach congress or the presidency they have lost touch and most of their grey matter. I do agree we need “to replace them all” with a couple exceptions like Allen West, Rand and Ron Paul, Michelle Bachman (John Bolton should be elected) and I’m getting to the end of my rather short list.

  • ca

    Yes, let’s move the power to the states, like Illinois, where, for the past year, the government has been trying to extort money form me based on earnings I received a year BEFORE I moved here. They have repeatedly ignored me when I told them I neither lived nor worked here; they just want the money. They have repeatedly ignored me when I told them that I want to see THEIR proof that I lived here; they just want the money. They have ignored the fact that I filed a protest, which should have resulted in a court hearing; they just want the money. The state governments are just as criminal as the Federal government.

    • http://foundersrevolution.blogspot.com patriot1776

      Yes but thats because we choose to ignore the State governments which are closer to home and are easier to keep in check…..unless we view them as unimportant. I also have the same problem with California! They want my money but I don’t live there anymore so they aren’t going to get it!
      Which brings up another good point. If you are unhappy with your State government and the people in your State are all for a bad government you can move to a better State. If the Federal government is a bad government where do you go? I guess you can leave the country but thats alot harder than moving to a new State. Plus, why would any one want to be taxed by two governments who are regulating the same things twice? The States can and should handle MOST of the affairs of their own people. The Federal government just steps in and trys to re-regulate what is already regulated and taxes us a second time. Great Idea. The States allow this because the Feds have unlimited capital…..The Federal Reserve and can fund the State-level promises that the States knew they couldn’t afford when they were making them. You can keep your Federal masters I can handle my own life……in my own country(State).

  • ONTIME

    A analogy well worth repeating…we need term limits on all elected officials and in many cases of state legislatures, part time legislatures will suffice instead of those employed year round and are subject to mischief. Since the trust factor for many of our public servants is so low, I recommend that all elected officials be publicly audited to review their earnings and holdings.

    • JeffH

      ONTIME, what is to be gained by term limits? If the electorate educates themselves and remains informed there will be no need for term limits. Elections will then weed the bad buggers out of the political system and keep the good ones. I agree fully with others here that believe term limits aren’t a viable option and that an informed eloctorate is all the checks and balances needed.

  • chuckb

    jeffh, you will never get an informed electorate in california, term limits wouldn’t help either. anybody who could figure out the mess this state is in, god help them. the only way i can see that would put a check on this welfare state would be to annex it back to mexico then build a deep trench along it’s border so the inhabitants couldn’t get out.

    • JeffH

      chuckb, I can’t argue with anything you just said…believe me when I say: I am in the minority in California.

      • JeffH

        …and I’ll add that it is just a waste of such a beautiful and diverse territory. Without question the result of pure unadulterated proggressivism.

        • Ruby

          Yes…we’re definitely in the minority.

          • JeffH

            Ruby, such a gorgeous state too. What a shame!

        • DaveH

          You’re right, Jeff. I’ve tried to explain to people for decades why California has every natural reason to be prosperous. They’re portside, so very accessible to international trade and fishing. They have beautiful weather and an excellent geography for raising crops in the central valley and other places. There is absolutely no reason for California to be in trouble, other than their bankrupt progressive politics.

          • JeffH

            This pretty much tells the story for California.

            Registered voters in California – June 2010
            At the close of registration for the June 2010 primary election, 17 million of the 23.5 million eligible adults in the state were registered to vote: 44.5% as Democrats, 30.8% as Republicans, 20.2% as decline to state or independents, and 4.5% as other parties. The number of registered voters in the state has grown by 1.3 million since June 2006. The number of registered Democrats has grown from 6.7 to 7.6 million, and the number of independents from 3 to 3.4 million, while the number of Republicans edged down from 5.4 to 5.2 million.

  • Larry From Indiana

    This is in response to the article primarily.

    In my opinion, monkeys are exactly what we have in office now, in both parties. Monkey see-monkey do! Or else they lose all! Just like the monkeys in the story! Lord, am I ever sick of our political system with the total corruption within. It is Tar & Feather Party Time In DC!

    • Bert Cundle

      It is like throwing one bone to two dogs!!! The Bone now, has NO Meat on it!

  • Bert Cundle

    REMEMBER When GOVERNMENT Was The LENDER… Now They are the Begger…

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Bert,
      They are still the lender, they are just foolishly BORROWING the money at a high rate to lend it at a low rate!!!

  • James

    It seems to me that this method of training monkeys is how the US got INTO its current mess in the first place: Take a look at how the Federal Reserve Act was legislated…How there was feirce opposition at first, but the longer it stayed in place, the more it became accepted as “normal” after an increasing number of “monkeys” were replaced in government offices. Same thing with the “New Deal”, Social security, & a whole slew of unconsitutional “entitlements.”

    Our freedoms, Rights & the Supreme Law itself didn’t start out compromised by political games in the Halls of Power…It was gradual. The more “new monkeys” replaced orginal monkeys (including the change of generations in the general public), the more “normal” that it seemed…Until nowadays, as it was said by Thomas Jefferson, “Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.”

  • bob wire

    Chip;”It’s Barack Obama and his socialist schemers who hate our private good works. They want the state to seize our money so they can decide who to put on the dole. That’s not charity; it’s theft.”

    That’s simply not so Chip. While it is perhaps a common thread of thought that runs through “like minds”. Private efforts are not now or ever been hated or discourages but actually encouraged. But in truth, there comes times it’s simply not enough. We have churches that work on projects all year long to administer to social needs. There is countless groups as well a wealthy individuals that work tirelessly to address the needs of our society in an effort to keep it strong and healthy.

    To suggest they are “hated” by anyone is pure bull hocky!

    This grudge of being required to pay your taxes is nothing new and surly didn’t start with Obama. I was hearing this same protest from my seriously conservative close friends as far back as I can remember.

    They hated to pay taxes on their royalties payments from land left to them by dieing senior family members from oil & gas production. It hurts to let go of such serious loot! ~

    I have a lady friend that been in Gas and Oil since a child, her Grand father was an Oklahoma wildcatter and as a child, he hired her to count well pipe and ride fence and keep livestock away. Today she works for a large concern and keeps the accounting for many wells and their many partners. ( just what Granddad trained her for years ago).

    What she had to pay in taxes on her Christmas bonus last year would buy Christmas for 3 families. ~ No sour grapes, ~ but most people feel lucky if they receive turkey!

    I do understand these feeling myself as I presently have letters from the IRS I’ve yet to open as I know the content and their demands already.

    When in history, has a nation of 325 million been taxed so little as today?

    I guess we need to decide if we are willing and can afford to be Americans today and “share” the American experience.

    Has any of you considered taking time off and drive down to “Bama” to help with their recovery efforts as they attempt to put their lives together after these recent devastating storms? Adopt a family? Send them a few grand? Start a fund drive? ~~ They needed help “Yesterday” they bellies are now empty, their homes are gone, their bodies are dirty and their jobs are gone. What private funding is willing to step up and make a meaningful difference in some timely manner for fellow American?

    I don’t believe many for you can afford or willing to pay for what you want. Believing instead on some kind of “Divine” intervention, a simple 40 loafs and 40 fish might be divided to satisfy our countries needs.

    I hate having to pay taxes and I hate it only more with I hear of all the waste and fraud or my nation commits to foolish wars or worse, conducts wars in a wasteful manner.

    If you fail to find the benefits worth the price of being an American today, perhaps you are in the wrong place. The 1900′s will not return to America but if by chance it ever did, we would be taken over by foreign powers in quick time.

    I call paying taxes, my bitching rights, we are left to bitch and pay.

    • DaveH

      If the Government weren’t busily helping themselves to 40% of our GDP, there would be plenty of people willing to support those who are truly needy. For sure, the obnoxious demanding people might have a hard time finding voluntary help. Is that a bad thing?
      The government taxes money away from people who mostly would have used their own money productively, and then the Government mostly wastes that money buying votes. Their ultimate goal is to make us mostly dependent on them, so we will go along with whatever they propose, thus making them leaders for life, like Castro was. Leaders don’t care how much their citizens suffer as long as they are on top.
      Your America, Bob, is an America that will soon be like most other countries in the world, then we’ll all be poor. But then I guess you will be happy, because we’ll be equally poor.

      Anybody who wants to get a glimpse of where our country is headed thanks to people like Bob Wire, just read about the economic history of Argentina from 1900 to present. They are geographically very similar to the US (only on the opposite side of the equator). In the early 1900s they was were in the top 10 economies of the world. Now they are 37th, thanks mostly to progressive types.

      • bob wire

        Why compare the Us with a third world bush country that sold it’s soul to the devil for Nazi blood money ? ~ I see little to compare. ~

        Many countries were doing well about that time in history. The industrial revolution was in just come into full effect across the globe. ~

        Tiny Germany was so cocky, they thought that they could claim the world!

        Dave, I’m for smaller government ~ but that means the “State” too! ~ I’ve little interest in trading one mean and hungry tax master for two!

        So far, That’s what the present proposed reform offer us. ~! a HUNGER MEDDLING STATE GOVERNMENT with ‘suggestions” of a smaller Fed.

        • DaveH

          It’s much easier to move to another state if you don’t like their policies, than it is to move to another country.
          And Libertarians want smaller Government at all levels. After all the time you spend on this board, you don’t know that?

          • bob wire

            Yes Dave, I hear your claims and desires and I know that you heart is in the right place but Dave ~ what you wish for is not what’s being delivered. They are lying to you Dave. It’s still a “bait and switch” game by the “power hungry”.

            Monkey Business!

            I want what you want! but We must be careful how we get there and not buy into illusions and mislabeling.

          • DaveH

            If you really do want much smaller Government, then the best way to acheive that is to keep educating yourself so that you can present that side of the story to those around you. Keep in mind they have been severely propagandized in the public schools, so be gentle. And be factual. All they have to do is catch you in one blatant lie, and you will no longer be trusted.

          • DaveH

            And for a real eye-opener, Bob, pick up a copy of “The Real Lincoln” or the later “Lincoln Unmasked” by Thomas DiLorenzo. Either one of those books will dramatically shed the veil of ignorance to just how brainwashed we all have been in the public school systems.

  • bob wire

    another “monkey story”

    There was a man that came into town that offered a 10.00 bounty on live monkeys. People came from far and wide with the monkeys they had caught to claimed thier reward. As the monkey population started to thin out and monkey became harder to find he offered a business proposition to the town to run this business while he left to delivered his captured monkeys to market and even offered to raise the reward to 50.00 per monkey of which they would get 10.00 for their trouble.

    The man left town with all of his captured monkeys only to have a partner in crime return later and sell the towns people the same captured monkeys, while he was never to be seen again.

    This story is indicative of how the GOP views a town citizen and the economic plans that they champion.

  • Joey Biden

    Personally, I’d rathaer have monkees running running the entire government right now.

  • DaveH
    • Joey Biden

      Yes, that is another good option.

  • Terry Gerling

    There is a lot of knowledge in what’s been written in the responces above–I’d be telling an untruth if I said I read them all!! The first monkey story is very “telling”–very pertainable!! I to, cannot listen to the “lying sack of s–t” most are calling, president. I’ve had to listen to too much of what I know is plain “wrong thinking”. History has taught us all so much about what works and what doesn’t—-maybe I’ve just read too much. I would recommend it though!!!! My perspective!!!!

  • chuckb

    the politicians have turned our country into the dumping grounds of the world, the more they tax us the bigger the welfare rolls get, jeffh, that increase in democrat registration in california is probably the increase in registering illegals. you can bet jerry and his cronies are busy at it. i live in a small no. california town and over the years have watched the population change from almost all white and mostly conservative to a large minority and liberal population. there has been an exerted effort to control gangs and most of the criminal activity has been with the mexican drug dealers. most of these people are not interested in the values of america, only what can benefit their own culture. the politicians cater to the poor with their welfare gifts and as in california’s case the welfare rolls are increasing faster than the state revenues. i include the welfare state and federal employment since they are not producers.

    • JeffH

      chuckb, California is the welfare state. This is just another great example of the effects of the liberal/progressive mindset.

      Today, 32 percent of all welfare cases in the United States are in California, even though we only represent 12 percent of the total U.S. population. Consider this troubling comparison; California is nearly twice as big as New York state, but we have five times as many welfare cases.

      Despite being a state famous for opportunity and promise, California lags much of the nation when it comes to moving people from welfare to work, according to the federal government. Only 22 percent of welfare recipients in California who are required to meet federal work minimums are working. According to the Public Policy Institute of California, our state is one of only nine that does not unconditionally enforce the federal government’s five-year lifetime limit on cash welfare assistance. These flaws in our welfare system, coupled with a monthly cash check that is almost 70 percent higher than the national average, work against the goal of helping more welfare recipients leave welfare for a life of greater independence and dignity.

      Welfare in California is a temporary helping hand, not a permanent way of life California rarely enforces the 5 year time limit and should change it to 2 years and then strictly enforce it.

      Over the past decade, California has spent more than $1 billion in fines because they could not put together an efficient computer system to collect child support payments. That alone could
      help struggling families reduce – or even end – their reliance on welfare.

  • DaveH
  • DaveH

    Speaking of Deflation (deflating my hopes and dreams, that is):
    http://mises.org/daily/5247/Is-There-Hope-for-Liberty-in-Our-Lifetime

  • Ridge Runner

    This teaching of the black muslums that thr white man (race) is evil is i think mpre bull shit.If the blacks are superior to the whites why is it the more you breed the blacks the whiter they get.the only time a black shows up in a mostly white family is when a black bull jumps the fence.Could this be where the blacks came from?The bible says that caine killed his brother able ouy of jealousy and was banished to the land of nod and there knew his wife. Where was the land of nod and who or what was cains wife,africa maybe.Another story of interest is if god made man kind in his own image then the world started from to people one woman and one man then we are all kin by insest but still kin blood kin no mater how many years ago it was started why can’t we just get along a little better.If cain killed his own brother then that says to me we werent meant to just get along with each other and we are just animals of our planet.if you would just study some acient history these acient cities had walls a round them and armed guards for protection 24-7.Things didn’t get better for thousands of years and there are some countries that are still not a whole lot better.Too many of these countrys when you travel from towns or villages your life and wellfare is in doubt.It seems that it was all about survival of the fittest.I guess that is why a lot of the different tribes of different parts were called savages.If you werent the biggest and meanest sob to make the others around you respect you then you might not survive.These cities or areas of civilzation have installed laws and guide lines to have the citizens live in harmony but ther is always out breaks of violence and there always will be.Because some of these people still retain a gene that made them savages.All people are born with the will to survive and it is also called a god given right to defend your self aginst bodily harm so don’t give your protection(your guns) A stay prepared and maybe you wan’t be harmed.

    • bob wire

      I think you are placing a value on skin pigment that has been falsely created in the minds of men. I understand~ it’s a difficult thing to see “around” for even if you could ~ there is “other people” won’t let you.

      I love horses, ~ there is some many different breeds of the horse. Large ones, small ones, fast ones, sure footed ones, gentle ones, loving ones, colorful ones, of all colors and then there is the mix breed. ~

      They each have a special quality to offer, the beauty, the gate, the stride, the speed, the endurance, the power and then there is the train-ability, the mentally agility .

      Can you not love “the horse” and celebrate all the many kinds and what each offers man.

      No, I suppose not.

      • Jay

        Even a lame horse bob wire, you go boy! Gidiyaap, yeehaaw!

  • DaveH

    For people who believe in the 2nd Amendment:
    http://gunowners.org/a04272011.htm

  • http://com i41

    bob wire it is not the color of the animal but the gentic back ground. Muslims are primarily a mix of black and sand brown genetic materials. Pretty much multi inbred clans and gangs. What society still practice the kiling of anything different than the African tribes, if a set of twin are born, one is tossed away, if a child has it’s upper teeth come in before the bottom do, it is killed same as different colored eyes child, these same bacwards are always getting honor scares for killing another neightboring tribe person. This is from the Africian black tribe freaks. The same area where the USA and the freak Un idoits give aid to. The sdimple minded freaks act just a feeral hogs gone wild, if you raise horses you know there is bloodlines of true outlaws that need to killed and made into dog food, same goes for any species including mankind. The sand n—ers are of the same mind set of inbred clans and incestual breeding. Any species that continually inbredings will give you some pretty strange creatures, look at Hussains inbred freaks and mental morons. The worthless f–king minorties all over want to live as wards of the people working, not off of their own ability to create something of value. Go look at any indian reservation, inter city black neighborhood or the mexican scrub land in any city, detroit is a classic muslim waste land of s–t bird freaks ideology nuts. Even animals that are hard to handle, destructive on other species and equipment, and dangerous to be around, are casterated first, and then sold as to end the worthless genetic bloodline. If society would start with the prison populations and, then start doing the same on sires and dams of abandonded children. With in 10 years the odds of getting mental screw up lik we have in the WH right now, his sire and dam, both dropped him like a hot rock and ran off to repeat the process for society to take care of the product left over. Between the marxist communist muslim and hisparty ideological Congress of his mental midgetary, animals are more useful and not as wasteful.

    • Lou Sarah

      More sickness from the insane. Are you for real, i41? Or just a plant for liberals to point to as evidence of conservative racism? Either way, you need to be institutionalized at Guantanamo Bay as a threat against this country.

      • JeffH

        Lou who?

        • DaveH

          Does this Lou guy ever have something factual to add, or is his repertoire limited to personal attacks?

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