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What Kind Of Seeds To Store?

July 11, 2011 by  

What Kind Of Seeds To Store?

Lots of people email and ask about what the best seeds are to store for long-term survival situations. With all of the deceptive and fear-based seed marketing in the preparedness market, it’s become confusing to try to figure out what kind of seeds to plant now and store for the future.

Here’s an example of an email I get fairly regularly:
David,
Thanks for the info. Question: Dehydrated food lasts only so long. What is the best source for seeds, etc. to grow food? Online? Farmers’ markets? Country stores?
–Bob

Here’s part of what I wrote back… plus some more:

Ideally, you want to have seeds from a few sources that are heirloom, hybrid, short season and long season, so that if any of the batches are bad, you won’t be wiped out. This will also protect you from early season hail storms, floods, late frosts and other environmental factors like volcanoes that might cause a short growing season.

Don’t confuse “hybrid” with GMO (genetically modified). Personally, I am a hybrid. I’m a mix of German, Russian, American Indian and French. Put another way, I’m a typical American mutt… and I like it.

Back to seeds… many hybrids occur naturally when the plants from one strain of seed pollinate the plants of another strain. Usually, hybrids occur in a controlled setting when scientists cross-pollinate plants. In any case, most hybrids are made to have more output or be more resilient to drought, flooding, heat, cold, disease and/or pests, but the trade-off is that most have seeds that won’t produce the following year.

GMO seeds are sold primarily to large farming operations, and you usually won’t need to worry about looking out for them when you buy seeds. Many seed companies advertise that their seeds are “NON-GMO” to a public that knows GMO is bad, but they don’t advertise that no other seeds in the store are GMO seeds. I won’t say that they don’t exist for the home gardener, but I have yet to see GMO seeds available anywhere in pouches for home gardens.

I don’t like GMO, and I do like hybrid and heirloom. But what’s the difference between hybrid and heirloom?

In simplest terms, hybrid plants are generally more resilient and forgiving. Heirlooms are generally more flavorful, and you can harvest the seeds to plant the following year. These are generalizations. Some hybrid plants have stabilized and produce viable seeds for the following year. Not all heirlooms are more flavorful than their hybrid alternative.

Again, I suggest having both hybrid and heirloom and planting some of both, so that if everything goes well and your heirlooms survive the growing season, you get the benefits of heirloom produce. But if things don’t go so well, the hybrid seeds may be more resilient to whatever knocked out your heirlooms and give you a partial harvest.

But that kind of misses the fundamental issue with storing seeds for survival.

In short, you should store seeds that you have experience growing successfully. If you don’t have experience growing seeds successfully, then there are other questions that need to be answered before worrying about which seeds to buy.

You’ve got to remember that, while there is a lot of crossover, “survival” skills are different than “primitive-living” skills.

Here’s what I mean.

Survival skills are designed to help you “survive” a fixed situation of known or unknown length. Food storage is a good example of this. So is traditional camping.

Primitive-living skills are designed to help you be more independent from other people and, in a pure sense, able to survive indefinitely separated from others. Gardening is a good example of this.

Both are valuable skill sets, especially for preppers who are aware of all of the short- and long-term risks we’re currently facing; but it’s helpful not to confuse the two. Primitive living skills, like gardening, also have the advantage of helping you grow your own food during “normal” times.

Back to the issue of storing seeds for survival. Think through the scenarios that you’re planning for. Are you planning for multiple-year primitive-living scenarios or one- to six-month survival scenarios that you can simply stock up supplies for?

I have both survival supplies and primitive-living supplies that I know how to use and work with regularly, but I use modern conveniences for most of my day-to-day living. In a total breakdown situation, I view my survival supplies as a buffer that will buy me time to get my primitive-living skills to the point where I can depend on them for living and/or a barter or trade economy to develop and stabilize.

Again, there will be overlap, but you need to be clear on which one you’re currently preparing for. By focusing on one or another, you will make faster progress overall. I normally suggest that people focus on survival and preparedness before they spend too much time focusing on primitive living.

Why? Because in the event of a disaster like a hurricane, tornado, flood or wildfire, survival and preparedness skills (in general) are much easier to use and benefit from. You don’t necessarily have to transition to primitive-living skills like grinding wheat to bake bread and using a loom to make your own clothes. You can simply eat what’s in your food storage and wear extra clothes that you had in your go bag.

Another question you want to ask yourself is whether you are planning for a partial breakdown in services or a complete breakdown? To clarify, a partial breakdown could be due to a natural disaster or a local terrorist attack after which supply chains are repaired quickly. A complete breakdown could be due to an electromagnetic pulse (EMP), infrastructure attack, earthquakes on the level of the New Madrid Earthquakes or other large-scale incident after which supply chains may be damaged for months or years.

You need to answer these questions to see just how much seeds will fit into the scenarios you’re currently planning for.

As an example, you won’t need seeds for a short-term survival scenario. (You might be amazed how many people have seeds in their 72-hour kits.) And if a long-term survival scenario starts right before your planting season, it’s likely you will have other concerns more pressing than tilling, planting, watering and weeding. It may be a year before you get a chance to plant your seeds. This is one reason why it’s important for everyone to have food storage — even if you’re a master gardener.

You also have to consider environmental issues. If you’re contending with acid rain, excessively polluted rain or a water shortage, a greenhouse may not only be a convenience, but a necessity to allow you to protect your plants from unfiltered water they might get in an open garden.

If you’re planning for an attack on the cyber and/or electrical infrastructure, it means municipal water will probably be hard to find. You should look for seeds that will grow naturally with the soil and water you will have available.

A great first step is to talk with local gardening stores to find out which plants and varieties of plants will work best with your soil type and start with those. If you live in an area where Indians lived, you may want to consider finding out what they planted and ate. In many cases, Indians simply took plants that grew naturally in their areas, harvested seeds and nurtured them in subsequent seasons to increase their yield.

As a note, for the first few years of gardening, I suggest either buying young plants from a nursery and replanting them or doing a combination of planting seeds and replanting plants. Why? There’s a lot to learn with a garden. The more variables you remove and the more early success you have, the more likely you are to continue your garden for years to come.

Keep in mind that if you want to start developing your skill at gardening, it’s not too late to start this weekend. You can still buy tomatoes, berries, herbs and salad fixings at local nurseries. If you can find them, they will probably already have fruit on them and be more expensive than early season plants, but they will give you a chance to practice the mysterious arts of watering, weeding and soil management.

One other thought… if you’re just starting out in your preparations, don’t have gardening experience and have a few hundred bucks available, go out and buy a few hundred dollars’ worth of nonperishable food and a couple tomato or strawberry plants to practice on.

This will let you dip your toes into gardening and also give you a good food supply in case you experience a survival situation between now and when you have developed the skills to grow your own food.

No matter where you are with gardening, keep taking small steps to improve your skills, knowledge and gardening area. This is a skill-set that will allow you to keep learning and improving for your entire life. Once you get soil gardening figured out, you can progress to hydroponics/aeroponics, controlling light cycles and changing up nutrient mixes to get five to 20 times more produce from the same amount of space.

What are your thoughts? How does gardening fit into your preparedness plan? How about hydroponics and aeroponics? And hybrids vs. heirlooms… which do you plant? Would that change in a survival situation? Let me know by commenting below.

Dr. David Eifrig Jr.

is the editor of two of Stansberry's best advisory services. One of his advisories, Retirement Millionaire, is a monthly letter showing readers how to live a millionaire lifestyle on less than you'd imagine possible. He travels around the U.S. looking for bargains, deals and great investment ideas. Already his average reader has saved $2,793 since 2008 (documented in each Retirement Millionaire issue). He also writes Retirement Trader, a bi-monthly advisory that explains simple techniques to make large, but very safe, gains in the stock and bond markets. This is a pure finance play and the reason Porter Stansberry loves having "Doc" on the team. Doc holds an MBA from Kellogg and has worked in arbitrage and trading groups with major Wall Street investment banks (Goldman Sachs). In 1995, he retired from the "Street," went to UNC-Chapel Hill for medical school and became an ophthalmologist. Now, in his latest "retirement," he joined Stansberry & Associates full-time to share with readers his experiences and ideas.

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  • Ray Fleshman

    My family has been saving tomato seeds since about 1944. We only plant one tomato to avoid any cross polination. The original seeds were callled “Belgium Giant” and they are pink and very sweet. One slice covers a piece of bread. I seed the best looking and largest tomatoes by leaving the seeds in water for a day or two and changing the water every day. I then put them on waxed paper to dry for about a week. I then vacuum seal them with a note for the year of production.
    These seeds will be good for years if refrigerated. Last year I planted seeds from 1995. My largest was in 1958 at 2 Lb 7 Oz. That year my father had one at 3 Lb 10 Oz. I never tried to beat him after that year.

  • L.J. Keeler

    where do you live? will these seeds grow anywhere? Thanks

  • James Munroe

    My preporation begins with a strain of beans that my father and i have grown for over 60 years. we believe they are from South America according to the friend that gave them to my father. i have tried to find the same beans for many years in catalogs and stores but cannot. they can be used as shell beans or dry, frozen,fresh or canned as my mother did for many years.the flavor is the best i have ever tasted. we have other things we are doing also but the beans are the main staple.

    • independant thinker

      Check Mother Earth News they usually have a number of sources listed for heirloom seeds and one of them might have what you are looking for. One other thought on them, I have seen “Anasazi Beans” advertised somewhere (maybe the Southwest Indian Foundation catalogue) and they might be similar to what you are looking for. While I grow them for green beans you can use Kentucky Wonder pole beans the same way as the ones you are looking for.

      • independant thinker

        Mother Earth News also has seed exchanges listed on occasion that might could help you as well.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Independant Thinker,
        Out of the blue I had some tomatoes come up in a flower bed. I didn’t plant them and neither did my family. they have 3″ green tomatoes on them and I am gonna save the seeds from some of them to plant next year. I guess they’re just pennies from up above!!

  • Janice

    I ordered your heirloom seeds for this summer, but I did not use all of them. Will they stay good to be planted next summer?

    Jan

    • independant thinker

      Janice, If you keep them dry they should keep easily just seal them in a jar.

    • Christin

      Janice,

      I planted many Heirloom and some organic seeds… had a hard time growing the Heirloom seeds in my area… are they best for the north-eastern states??? I was able to harvest some Heirloom green beans seeds from the crop… they were a lot smaller so I don’t know if they will be any good.

      We did not use all our Heirloom seeds either… will they keep in a baggie in a plastic container???

  • http://WND Wylie

    What is the best method for storing seeds? I’m told that wheat seeds will lose their ability to germinate if stored in airtight containers. I’ve also been told that vegetable and fruit seeds should be stored in paper envelopes rather than foil envelopes or they will lose their ability to germinate. What’s the truth in all this? some of the most highly-touted seed salesmen package their seeds in foil and sealed #10 cans.

    What is the normal shelf life for most seeds that are stored properly?

    • Christin

      Wylie,
      Very good questions… would like to know this info, too, if anybody knows it.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Christin,
        Well, I had some bottle gourd seeds and some watermellon seeds from 1995 in the original envelope just stored in a plastic bag, found them and since I didn’t think they were any good I threw them out. My compost pile hasn’t been turned this year as I have three nice mellons growing out of it with others on the way. The gourd seeds, i just dropped over my deckrail and they are growing up the deck side!! So I guess that’s 16 years and they still produced. might be an accident or….?

  • sage_brush

    Another good method of propagating your tomatoes in perpetuity is to take cuttings. They are herbaceous and root quite easily from a tip cutting. If done in the fall – tomato cuttings can be overwintered indoors – and with careful pinching – will be HUGE when time to set out in the spring! This is free – and you only take cuttings of the best plants. This can be done with open pollinated and hybrid – since there is no pollination involved.

    I have even had some cherry tomatoes set fruit in late January – in spite of beastly weather. Keep in the warmest room in the house as soon as they look ready to bud. Pollen can be spread by shaking or using a small camel hair paint brush.

    • independant thinker

      I have done that in the garden but never thought of trying to overwinter any plants that way.

  • Fighting Grandma

    I’m very interested in hydroponics but have not found an affordable turn-key system. Do you know any sites that I can check out?

    • Bart VanAllen

      Fighting Grandma-
      Hey young lady! I’ve been playing with hydroponics since the mid ’70′s and it is very easy to make a system better than the store bought stuff. Contact me directly if this site allows it and we can kick around what may suit your needs.
      Bart
      BTW – I’m in the middle of writing a book on how to do just that — geared for tough times.

      • Sharon

        I would like some advice also. I’m in Arizona so heat build-up outdoors is a concern. Do you have a website?

      • Fighting Grandma

        Hey Bart, would love to connect up ~ how can I reach you?

      • Roseanna

        I am interested in setting up a small hydroponic garden for myself and my son. Would love some practical, and inexpensive solutions and guidance!
        Thanks

  • Royal Foust

    Please don’t forget thet the democratis congress passed Senate Bill 512 that made it a felony to store seeds. I think it was call the Food Regulatory Act.

    • MB

      S. 510:
      FDA Food Safety Modernization Act

    • BigBadJohn

      WOW I did not know this. I guess Monsanto really does own government….

  • FreedomFighter

    I currently in the process of doubling my supply of seeds due to weather concerns,and other situations.

    One bad season can wipe out your stock of seeds.

    Problems incountered this year include:

    Local deer completely consumed pea crop in one night.(almost total reseed loss)

    High wind and driving rain damaged some of the crops.(seed loss)

    Beetles and blight attack(resisted with chemicals)

    Extreme June heat in area wilted corn – saved with irragation (electric pump may not be available during crisis).

    Calculated amount of fertilizer needed fell short.

    Invasion of moles, rabbits and mice very difficult to control even with 4 cats and 6 dogs. Will use other measures.

    Just a few of the problems encountered just this season.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • independant thinker

      Unless the pea patch or garden is to large for it to be practical you can build a deer fence from some posts and mono fishing line. The posts only need to be close enough to keep the line semi tight. You space three or four lines roughly eaquily from 12-14 inches off the ground to about 4 or 4.5 feet off the ground. 10 or 12 lb line works just fine and you do not have to use the name brand stuff the promo line works just fine. The reason it works so well is the deer cannot see the line and when they bump into it they are confused by that. They also do not jump over the line since they are confused by it. This is my sixth or seventh year of using it and it works just fine.

      • FreedomFighter

        thanks

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

        • independant thinker

          One thing forgot to mention, I ended up having to put 16″ poultry netting around my garden at ground level to keep the rabbits out. This takes the place of the first strand of mono for me.

      • bobsgarden

        I’ve been using another way for years to keep the deer and rabbits out. make a regular fence with wooden posts on the corners, metal in between, every 8 to 10 feet. String wire poultry netting along the bottom for rabbits. Get some bamboo polls or any light, stiff pool and tie them onto the corner posts about 2 feet up. Bamboo can be stuck into the poultry netting, in between the corners. String two strands of twine a foot above the wire and another two feet above the first. Start with the top twine line, as it works out better. Between the posts tie pieces of cloth onto the twine. The top string ends up about 6 or 7 feet up. Cut up some old blue jeans for the cloth, they last years. Take it down in the winter.

        • Boris the CCRN

          what about woodchucks?? those darned things seem to get under every fence I build….and with many small children I don’t want havahart traps all over….any suggestions??

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Boris,
            Get a pellet gun with a velocity of at least 1200 FPS!! I’ve gotten 6 of them this year. Get the non-lead pellets as they get the full velocity. Works very good AND keeps you practicing your shooting. Gammo has one with a 4 power scope on it!

    • independant thinker

      I have a source of used 300 gallon food grade containers I am using to collect rainwater for irrigation. They are roughly cubical sit on plastic pallets and have a metal reinforcing frame around them. I altered one of my downspouts to fill them with roof runoff and they fill pretty quickly. My house sits higher than my garden so I do not have problems getting the collected water to my garden. I have not tried it yet but you should be able to stack them at least two high and possibly higher since they have the frames around them. They have a two inch outlet with a valve so control of the water is not a problem.

      • Minstrel

        Where do you get used food grade containers in that size? I have a shed with a downspout system that can be funneled into barrels or other containers. How do you keep your water from getting algae growth from fouling your stored water?

    • Christin

      Freedom Fighter,

      For moles and gophers…

      If you have raised beds you can tack metal netting to the bottom to keep the critter out… that’s what we did and all was safe.

      If you have a large garden in the ground you can dig down six or seven inches around the perimeter and insert the metal fencing into the ground and pull around wooden or metal posts or poles so that the critters will hit the fence material, but can not go beyond the metal fencing under ground into your garden. This metal fencing will keep out the rabbits, too.

    • Bleh

      I have been using a concoction spray consisting of 4 garlic cloves, table spoon of hot sauce and canola oil and 1 quart of water.
      I spray it on and so far last year and this year no animals eat my garden. We have wood chucks and dear around my area.

  • elda

    I am a single mother with special needs children. We have built a green house from a metal carport covered in plastic and installed large livestock water containers with fish. We have raised smaller water containers for planter beds and are doing aquaponics. I believe it will be easier for my children to take care of this than fighting gophers, big critters and bugs. We even have soil beds for carrots and other root veggies in the greenhouse. We also have lots of chickens and small breed goats for milk, soap, yogurt and cheese. I am teaching my kids to use the dehydrator and how to sprout seeds of many kinds. This has actually been a lot of fun even knowing this is all for our future survival. One other thing we are grateful to have learned about is the Moringa Oleifera tree. We are also growing some of those in our greenhouse. We will dry and store their leaves.

    • Nanci Bain

      Eida:

      What is a moringa oleifera tree? I have never heard of it. What do you use the leaves for? How big is it?
      Please give me the info on this tree.
      Thanks,
      Nanci

      • independant thinker

        I had the same question. Go here for some information.

        http://www.ilovemoringa.com

      • elda

        Moringa Oleifera is a tree that is native to I believe India. It is now grown in many countries because it is so nutritious it is being used to fight malnutrition. It is drought tolerant and grows very tall unless kept trimmed. The leaves contain all amino acids needed by humans. It has huge amounts of many vitamins too. You can eat the leaves raw in salad or cook in dishes. The young seed pods can be eaten raw or cooked like string beans. All parts can be dried and powdered for addition to your diet. It is great for animal feed to increase milk production. The ground seeds are used to purify water and the oil from the seeds is really good for you. There is lots on the net about this plant. I got seeds on Ebay.

  • Gene Langlier

    Regarding the statement about Senate bill 512 prohibiting the saving of seed by the Obama administration…….
    Where, and why do you publish such nonsense? I just read every bit of Senate Bill 512, and it applies to the restriction of GMO seeds that are not intended for human consumption. The way I read it, it legislates a protection for us, by not allowing it into the food chain.
    You anti-Obama nut cases just diminish your credibility when you attack something without having read or understood it. What next? The Obama administration is going to go door to door and ransack our houses in search of heirloom seed??
    If you want to get riled up about something, how about realizing that the giant seed companies along with other giants like Monsanto, have altered the food chain in a few short decades of alteration. Foreign contries are starting to refuse our seed and food due to the GMO’s.
    Wise up people. Stick to home grown NON-GMO food, and heirloom seed. You can use the GMO stuff for bio-diesel…..but don’t even feed it to our livestock because it winds up in our foodchain too.

  • JT

    Does anyone know how to get rid of nutgrass?

    • independant thinker

      Dig the nuts up roast them and eat. They are supposed to taste similar to Alomnds. I read that many years ago so you might want to look it up before you try it. Supposedly some people tried raising nut grass for the nuts to sell but the market never developed.

      • JT

        Thanks!! I also heard to put sugar on the grass, but it’s in my garden and I don’t want to kill my plants.

  • Wayne937

    A little information on Sarah Palin:

    Dr. John E. Russell says:
    July 10, 2011 at 6:39 pm
    Dear Friends,

    Below is an informative article about Sarah Palin–never heard this information in the liberal media. Please send this to your friends and family.
    The web address for this article is http://restlessbrainsyndrome.blogspot.com/. It is also included in Sarah Palin’s book, Sarah Palin: Going Rogue: An American Life, pp. 405-408.

    Dr. John E. Russell
    Chaplain (COL) AUS Retired

    SARAH PALIN’S ACCOMPLISHMENTS
    By Dewey Whetsell
    I wrote the following piece in July and it’s been read by thousands of people, many of whom wrote and called me to express their gratitude. I wanted to write a complimentary piece without taking cheap shots at any other individual. Anyway, it was suggested that I post it here as well. Here goes:

    “The last 45 of my 66 years I’ve spent in a commercial fishing town in Alaska. I understand Alaska politics but never understood national politics well until this last year. Here’s the breaking point: Neither side of the Palin controversy gets it. It’s not about persona, style, rhetoric, it’s about doing things. Even Palin supporters never mention the things that I’m about to mention here.

    “1- Democrats forget when Palin was the Darling of the Democrats, because as soon as Palin took the Governor’s office away from a fellow Republican and tough SOB, Frank Murkowski, she tore into the Republican’s “Good Ol’ Boys Club” (GOB) and sent them packing. Many of them are now residing in State housing and wearing orange jump suits. The Democrats reacted by skipping around the yard, throwing confetti and singing “la la la la” (well, you know how they are). Name another governor in this country that has ever done anything similar. But while you’re thinking, I’ll continue.

    “2- Now with the GOB gone, there were fewer Alaskan politicians to protect the huge, giant oil companies here. So, she constructed and enacted a new system of splitting the oil profits called “ACES”. Exxon (the biggest corporation in the world) protested and Sarah told them “don’t let the door hit you in the stern on your way out.” They stayed, and Alaska residents went from being merely wealthy to being filthy rich. Of course the other huge international oil companies meekly fell in line. Again, give me the name of any other governor in the country that has done anything similar.

    “3- The other thing she did when she walked into the governor’s office is she got the list of State requests for federal funding for projects, known as “pork”. She went through the list, took 85% of them and placed them in the “when-hell-freezes-over” stack. She let locals know that if we need something built, we’ll pay for it ourselves. Maybe she figured she could use the money she got from selling the previous governor’s jet because it was extravagant. Maybe she could use the money she saved by dismissing the governor’s cook (remarking that she could cook for her own family), giving back the State vehicle issued to her, maintaining that she already had a car, and dismissing her State provided security force (never mentioning-I imagine-that she’s packing heat herself). I’m still waiting to hear the names of those other governors.

    “4- Now, even with her much-ridiculed “gosh and golly” mannerism, she also managed to put together a totally new approach to getting a natural gas pipeline built which will be the biggest private construction project in the history of North America. No one else could do it although they tried. If that doesn’t impress you, then you’re trying too hard to be unimpressed while watching her do things like this while baking up a batch of brownies with her other hand.

    “5- For 30 years, Exxon held a lease to do exploratory drilling at a place called Point Thompson. They made excuses the entire time why they couldn’t start drilling. In truth they were holding it like an investment. No governor for 30 years could make them get started. This summer, she told them she was revoking their lease and kicking them out. They protested and threatened court action. She shrugged and reminded them that she knew the way to the court house. Alaska won again.

    “6- President Obama wants the nation to be on 25% renewable resources for electricity by 2025. Sarah went to the legislature and submitted her plan for Alaska to be at 50% renewables by 2025. We are already at 25%. I can give you more specifics about things done, as opposed to style and persona . Everybody wants to be cool, sound cool, look cool. But that’s just a cover-up. I’m still waiting to hear from liberals the names of other governors who can match what mine has done in two and a half years. I won’t be holding my breath.

    “By the way, she was content to return to AK after the national election and go to work, but the haters wouldn’t let her. Now these adolescent screechers are obviously not scuba divers. And no one ever told them what happens when you continually jab and pester a barracuda. Without warning, it will spin around and tear your face off. Shoulda known better.”

  • Fazool

    Re “The Divine Sarah”
    As I’ve always said regardingthe last national election, Sarah was the only one of the four (Barry,Biden, and (yes) McCAin) who had real executive experience!

    • eddie47d

      There is also a Svalbard Global Seed Vault in Spitsbergen Norway.Built to preserve world wide seeds. Mostly heirlooms and from crops and plants dating back hundreds of years. This should be encouraged on a national and individual level. Thanks for the article.

  • Mudlogger

    I believe it is nonhybrid seeds that you want so you can harvest the seeds every year.You are not able to harvest seeds from hybrid plants,correct?

  • Mike

    So many misconceptions ! First off please go read the food bill ( no I was not in favor of any new rules ) and you will find most of whats being said is hype .There is NOTHING saying you can not save seeds although I am sure all the GMO producers would like it that way .
    Hydroponics is not the way to go ! It is far too costly and wastefull with all the chemicals one has to buy and the massive water changes required . If problems do arise where will you buy the nutrients needed to keep it running ? How would you cope with no water system ? Now that said I have grown hydroponics and yes it does work but it’s also hard to make sure you are staying organic . I have turned my entire greenhouse into Aquaponics and has done far better than hydroponics . Aquaponics basicly replaces the chemicals /nutrients with fish .The fish produce the needed nutrients for the plants and the growbeds and plants filter the water for the fish . Now this gives you fresh veggies ,fruit and a protein source , the fish .Sure beats beans everyday for protein You also have minimal time invested as there is no weeding ,no chemicals ,no dirt born disease .So you have to plant ,harvest ,and feed the fish ,pretty simple if you ask me !
    The best plan for anything is to start now and even if nothing were to happen

  • Kaleidescope

    An excellent resource for heirloom seeds…
    http://rareseeds.com/

    They sell nothing but heirloom and profess over 1400 varieties. I have planted their seeds for years and have always been satisfied with the results.

  • Boris the CCRN

    oops, looks like christin had already posted the answer to my recently posted question….sorry and thanks!

  • 12AngryMen

    Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds have a huge seed bank with varieties from around the world! They are having an Heirloom Seed Festival in Santa Rosa, California in September. They also host events at their home site in Missouri. Rareseeds.com

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