What If Trayvon Were White?

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Hello, I’m Wayne Allyn Root for Personal Liberty. A couple of weeks ago, Barack Obama held a press conference to discuss a local court case. Highly unusual. Actually, unheard of. Why on Earth would the President get involved in a local court case? Obama just can’t let the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin case go because he is obsessed by race.

Obama asked the key question, “What if Trayvon was white?” So I’ve set out here to examine that very question. What if Trayvon were white and George Zimmerman were black? Obama is right: Everything would have been different about the case.

If Trayvon were white, there would have been no national headlines. No one outside Sanford, Fla., would have even heard about the case. A black Zimmerman would never have been charged with a crime. And if there had been a trial and a black Zimmerman had been found not guilty, you can bet your last dollar that Obama’s Justice Department would not be considering civil rights charges. If they did, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would call it double jeopardy and a modern-day lynching of an innocent black man. That’s right; they’d be marching in the streets to defend the black Zimmerman.

The reality is that white Americans are killed by black Americans every day, but the national media never report it because they are afraid of being called racist. I can’t remember ever seeing or hearing race mentioned on the national news unless it is a white-on-black crime. And then, of course, it is the centerpiece of the story and always blamed on racism.

By the way, Zimmerman isn’t white. He is Hispanic. But liberals never let facts get in the way of a good story. That’s why the media and the race-baiters have coined a new phrase: “white Hispanic.” Sounds like a new race was invented just to justify liberals’ use of the word “racism” to discuss this case.

The same fear of being called racist is exactly the reason the national media never reports black-on-black crime, which has become a national tragedy. Cities like Detroit, Philadelphia, Baltimore and Obama’s Chicago are young black male killing fields. They are more dangerous for black Americans than serving in Afghanistan or Iraq. Why don’t the national media report on this tragedy? Why hasn’t Obama ever held a press conference to discuss that crisis? It is certainly much more devastating to the black community.

Could Obama name any of the black murder victims in Chicago that were shot by other blacks during the Zimmerman trial? I’ll bet not. Why are all those young dead black men that also look like Obama’s son any less important? Is it because their deaths don’t stir up racial anger or resentment? Is it because none of their deaths move his agenda forward?

Here’s another difference: If the victim, Martin, were white, there’d be no involvement by Sharpton, Jackson or the Congressional Black Caucus, nor tweets by liberal Hollywood celebrities, nor protests across America. When was the last time any of the race-baiters weighed in on a murder involving a white American? When was the last time a white person being murdered resulted in protests or rioting? Can you name one?

Have white people ever protested en masse about a black accused criminal getting found not guilty? Did the O.J. Simpson verdict cause rioting by white Americans?

Here is something else we know: If Martin had been white, the President of the United States would never have gotten involved in a local court case. Never. So why did he get involved here? The primary reason is to create a distraction from the tragedy of his failed policies and never-ending scandals. He is doing all he can to keep Americans from focusing on the sinking U.S. economy; the unthinkable national debt; the record number of Americans on welfare and food stamps; the millions of people left jobless by his anti-business policies; the bankruptcy of Detroit (which was ruled 100 percent by Democrats for more than 50 years); the murder, mayhem and out-of-control gun violence of his hometown Chicago (with the strictest gun laws in the Nation); the unraveling of Obamacare; the Internal Revenue Service scandal; the Benghazi, Libya, scandal; the Associate Press spying scandal; the James Rosen spying scandal; the Kathleen Sebilius extortion scandal; the Operation Fast and Furious scandal; and wars and unrest all over the Mideast.

The reality is Obama is using Martin to change the subject. He’s hiding behind Martin’s “murder” to get the media and voters’ minds off his own scandals and failures. Just as he has done repeatedly, Obama is changing the conversation to save his own skin. Martin is Obama’s W.M.D. (weapon of mass distraction). He’ll exploit Martin as long as he possibly can, so he doesn’t have to explain his own failures and scandals. As Saul Alinsky taught Obama, “The ends justify the means.”

Don’t forget the IRS scandal just happened to deepen on the very day Obama chose to bring up Martin at an impromptu press conference. We found out that Obama’s political appointee was at the very center of the IRS scandal and that he met with Obama only two days before the IRS harassment against conservatives started.

Another obvious difference is if the victim were white, Obama would never have weighed in about “white angst” or “white pain.” Should our President be feeling the pain of only one race of Americans? What about the rest of us? Don’t our anger or feelings count? Isn’t Obama the President of all Americans, of all races? Is this President trying to bring us together or purposely tear us apart?

In the end though, Obama is right. If Martin were white, this would all be different – 100 percent different. And if Obama were a white President and he weighed in on a local black-on-white murder, he’d be called racist, ignorant and insensitive, and he would be drummed out of office by the liberal media, race-baiters and the NAACP.

You know the definition of a racist, don’t you? Anyone winning an argument with a liberal. I’m Wayne Allyn Root for PersonalLiberty.com. See you next week. Same time, same place. God bless America.

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  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    Yeah, look who is talking?
    Compassionate jerk aka Satanic Moron “of the 13 generation out of 14”

    If your leader had a son he’d look just like thug Trayvon
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khSECVQFfZQ

    • Bob666

      Yo Pork -Fest,
      And if it had happened to your kid?

      If you have something to say to me-Address me.

      • Average_Joe56

        Yo SFB (that would be you Bob),

        My kid would be smarter than T-von…my kid would have gone home
        My kid wouldn’t have been getting Fruit juice (watermelon) and skittles to mix up a batch of “Lean” or “Purple Drank”

        “Martin of admitting on his Facebook account as early as June 27, 2011 of being an abuser of a codeine, soft drink and candy beverage popularly known as “Purple Drank” or “Lean.”

        “Martin asked a friend online, “unow a connect for codien?”

        Martin went on to tell his friend that “robitussin nd soda” could make “some fire ass lean.”

        He says, “I had it before” and that he wants “to make some more.”
        My child is much smarter than T-von…..so, It wouldn’t have happened ( my child also carries concealed as well).
        Maybe you are admitting that your child may not be so bright…and/ or that you’ve failed as a parent to teach your child to avoid confrontations ( walk away from…not towards)? Better luck in the future with that…..
        There you go Bob…addressed to you…feel better now?

        • smilee

          For sure you child is a lot smarter than you.

          • Average_Joe56

            Why is that? Because she carries concealed?
            So do I…..
            Hopefully, if you have offspring…they are more intelligent than you…an IQ over 10 would be enough to reach that goal (it must be sad to wear a shoe size that’s higher than your IQ….

          • smilee

            More lies and stupid irrevlant opinions from AJ

          • Average_Joe56

            Yawn…..

        • Bob666

          Yo Average,
          Once again you make the mistake in thinking that I care what you think.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ AnKa

            So WHY are you replying?
            Ah, it’s a liberal logic.

          • Bob666

            Hello Antonio,

            “Ah, it’s a liberal logic”.

            That would require me to be a liberal and I am far from it.

            Don’t know anything about you, perhaps you could enlighten me as to why are you posting to me?????

          • Bob666

            Hello Antonio,

            “Ah, it’s a liberal logic”.

            That would require me to be a liberal and I am far from it.

            Don’t know anything about you, perhaps you could enlighten me as to why are you posting to me?????

          • Average_Joe56

            ” liberal logic”
            Isn’t that an Oxymoron?

            And by extension, doesn’t that make Bob a moron….errrr…oxy-moron?

          • vicki

            You obviously do care cause you went to the trouble of telling everyone that you didn’t

          • Bob666

            Just to make him go away-

            Just saying,

          • Average_Joe56

            Hey Boob666….
            is it working?
            Woopsie……..

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            No, it will not work. Antonio is my son. And he knows that.

          • Average_Joe56

            Me thinks Boob wants us all to go away….intelligent people frighten him.

          • Bob666

            Wow Average,
            If that were true, then you would bother me even less.

          • Average_Joe56

            I’m still here……………………………………..BOO!

          • Average_Joe56

            He says…while hiding behind his computer screen…….

          • Average_Joe56

            Obviously not, you took the time to read it …and to respond….so much for not caring. Does the right side of your brain know what the left side is thinking? You may want to get that checked out by a professional.

          • Bob666

            Hello Below Average,
            Kind of like throwing a ball for the dog, you keep bringing it back and all I have to do is respond to you.

            I don’t even have to give you a treat!

          • Average_Joe56

            I guess you would know…Bowser….You’ve apparently had handlers conditioning you for quite some time….ok, there’s the bell…salivate.

          • Bob666

            Good Boy Boo-Boo,
            Now you have to copy me! run Boo-Boo Run!

          • Average_Joe56

            Copy? Are you insane? I am a conservative and I like being a conservative. Why on earth would a thinking human being want to copy a liberal moron? Are you are delusional…or is it just wishful thinking on your part? Or maybe a bit of both?
            BTW, have you noticed that you are the one with all of the B’s and O’s in your moniker Boob666?
            For future reference, when someone flings crap at you…next time…Duck….

      • Bruceb64

        ?? You go after Alondra for a reply to Stars-n-Stripes?? You call him names, and then Call him Out? Well I WILL Address YOU! 1. MY Kid would not be in the Situation TM was! 2. If he was so “Loved” why did it take his parents 3 days to report he was missing? 3. You Angry because the Video showed the “TRUE” TM? 4. Ask Yourself……WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF TM WERE WHITE and GZ BLACK? NOT A THING!!!!!

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        The personal attack and a small rant. I see that we are not capable of communicating effectively. You asked, “And if it happened to your kid?”, but my kids would have used their heads and not get themselves into that situation in the first place. Trayvon didn’t think, but just was acting like a “hood.” If Martin was getting the lay of the land in out neighborhood, he might of found people escorting him out of the area, maybe a gunpoint. Here are 2 articles with some good news.
        http://www.religionnews.com/2013/07/24/house-rejects-call-to-allow-nonreligious-military-chaplains/
        http://www.onenewsnow.com/pro-life/2013/07/26/abortionist-who-vowed-to-flaunt-texas-law-says-will-shut-doors#.UfRyYl1lk21
        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
        “Without religion this world would be something not fit to be mentioned in polits company, I mean Hell.”
        John Adams
        Founding father
        2nd President of the U.S.
        Devout Christian

        • smilee

          sammie, You have never been capable of communicating effectively. Just gobblegook and lies.

        • Bob666

          Well Babble Boy,

          “but my kids would have used their heads and not get themselves into that situation in the first place”

          I would hope so and would like to think that my kids would not put themselves in a situation like that as well-but sometimes bad things happen to good people in spite of there ability to stay out of harms way.

      • Bill

        Take a chill pill, 666

        • Dave

          Even though this article is meant to inflame and written as such? Even though Alondra is basically saying Martin deserved to die because according to her, martin is a thug?

          • Average_Joe56

            Dave…you sir are an idiot…making idiotic statements.
            If someone doesn’t say something…you’ll be happy to say it for them…how nice of you (sarcasm)….miscreant that you are….
            You sir…are a very foolish person.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Of cause he is a veeeeery FOOLISH but also he is a RACIST.

          • Doc Sarvis

            Coming from you sir, that is a VERY big compliment.

          • Average_Joe56

            Yawn……

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            According to me, Dave, the thug Martin has to blame himself for his death. GZ DID NOT attack TM. TM attacked George. End of story.

            P.S. Now his mommy wants money. OK. She will get money after NBC produces the movie or trailer about the “murder” of BLACK “kid” by WHITE-Hispanic RACIST.

          • TheOriginalDaveH
          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            DaveH, please do not be deceive and be aware:

            The Mentally Ill ego-centric psychopath bob666 is posting on this Website under the names as Stars-n-Stripes, Justsomeguy151 or Hall of the Mountain King. He has a very PROFOUND Psychological problem because he is very, very unhappy and his unhappiness made him a bitterly mad and extremely irritable.

            This kind of personality is DESPERATELY looking for the attention and when he hasn’t it, he become extremely irritable and very angry and his anger overgrows into the hate, wrath and vengeance. He BADLY wants to hurt his opponent/ challenger/ rival (in whom he sees HIS enemy), because the “rival” “robbed” the attention that he needed so DESPERATELY.

            He is jumping from the comment to comment in the attempt to “bite” commentators. But the result is that he just “bites” himself.

            The TRUTH is that the HATER hurts himself: “what goes around, comes around”.

            A person’s actions, whether good or bad, ALWAYS have consequences for the person. Sooner or later.

            “The chickens come home to roost” – Rev. Jeremiah
            Wright

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        I already did address to you, masonic jerk.
        As I see you are suffering from multiple personalities.

        Oh, maybe that was your lovely “wife”?
        No, that definitely was your husband.

        • Bob666

          Oh Pork-Fest,

          I don’t know who “Stars-n-Stripes” is, but he/she is not me. Whoever “Stars-n-Stripes” is-they certainly recognize a piece of crap when they see it and has you nailed.

          As for “suffering from multiple personalities”, Not true, but unlike you, I can say that I have a personality.

          As far as the lovely wife goes-she is far more of a lady and woman that you could ever hope to be and I count my self as one lucky man to be her husband.

          So go back you your propaganda propagation and remember-you keep posting and we will keep laughing!

          • Bob666

            Wow-
            While I can’t imagine that you really are Babble Boy, that is just too dam Funny!!!!

  • independent thinker

    If Travon were white and he pulled that same sh!t he would be just as dead.

    • KENYAN KRUSHER

      That kid was up to no good, that is why Zimmerman called the police in the first place!

      • Doc Sarvis

        He was walking home, with Skittles and an iced tea.

        • Average_Joe56

          He was walking home with Skittles and…what? It most certainly wasn’t Ice Tea…… It was “Watermelon” fruit drink. Maybe they (MSM) forgot to bring that to the foreground because of the racial association with negroes and watermelon? Or , maybe it was because of the association of Skittles, Fruit Drink and Robotussin to mix up an intoxicating drink made popular by black culture? By now, all of us know this fact ( that includes you)…so, Doc. If your going to chime in…at least be honest about your comments….we know better…and so do you.

          • Doc Sarvis

            IF that were the case (and that is far from certain), you are saying he should be shot and killed.

          • Average_Joe56

            I said no such thing…..You did… you and only you.
            You Doc…are stupid…on steroids…..

          • Doc Sarvis

            That is what you implied. He was doing nothing wrong, walking home when Zimmerman started to stalk him AGAINST the recommendation of the 911 operator.

          • Average_Joe56

            No it isn’t.. it’s what YOU implied.
            I said exactly what was on my mind…you are the one who keeps implying that everyone else is implying things. It’s all in YOUR mind. Learn how to read and….. adjust your meds.

          • vicki

            The behavior is called projection. They do it all the time and assume that others do it too. It is also why so many of them are anti-gun

          • Dave

            AJ,
            Keep your racism out of it please… last I checked Skittles, Fruit Drink and Robotussin are not illegal substances… Walking through a gated community to get to your home is not an illegal activity.

          • Average_Joe56

            Dave, Have you lost something?…Like your mind?

            ” last I checked Skittles, Fruit Drink and Robotussin are not illegal substances…”

            Actually, Codeine and Dextromethorphan ( the ingredients in Robotussin and Robotussin DM) are illegal…without a script.

            “Walking through a gated community to get to your home is not an illegal activity.”
            That would depend on what you were doing along the way. Even Jaywalking… is illegal in some places……
            I am guessing you didn’t pass your BAR exam?
            Dave, you certainly aren’t the sharpest bowling ball in the alley……

          • Average_Joe56

            Dave,
            You and Smelly keep talking about racism…but I don’t think you have a grasp of what racism really is.
            I am guessing that it is anyone who you don’t agree with.

          • Average_Joe56

            Dave and smilee,

            Please point out my racism in the comment above. You’ve made an accusation.. now,back it up.

            From my post:

            “It was “Watermelon” fruit drink. Maybe they (MSM) forgot to bring that to the foreground because of the racial association with negroes and watermelon?”

            What was he drinking? Was it “Tea” as the media keeps saying? Or, was it “Watermelon fruit drink” made by the Arizona Tea Co.?

            If it was “watermelon fruit drink” (which it was), then why won’t the MSM say so? Why do they keep saying “Tea”…. when it was not “tea”…That’s totally disingenuous and completely dishonest….period. AKA: A LIE.
            Could it be the stigma attached (as I suggested above) to watermelons and blacks? Sorry goofballs…no racism there…facts are facts…stating facts is not racism…it’s telling the TRUTH . You two half-wits should try telling it sometime ( oh wait, that would require that you KNOW the truth).
            Suggesting that he may have been manufacturing an illegal substance in which to “get High”, is in no way racist. White folks make meth all of the time…and saying so isn’t racist…it’s telling the truth. It just so happens that “lean” is the new choice for High School aged kids and in this case, TM apparently had a taste for it, based on his very own Facebook postings. …but even suggesting it…is somehow racist to you twin idiots?

            Grab a grip on reality fellows…you brain is at risk of total meltdown.

            http://therionorteline.com/2012/05/30/was-trayvon-martin-high-on-purple-drank/

            http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/it-wasnt-just-skittles-trayvon-was-carrying/

            Prove me a racist. Prove me wrong.
            No more insinuations. No more dancing around the issue…PROVE IT…with actual facts.
            If you have no facts (look up the word before opening your mouths)…then you have no credibility …period.
            Whining isn’t pretty, don’t do it.
            Now, put up or…STFU.

          • smilee

            Your racism is showing again. Honestly is certainly something you have no clue about.

        • RAND PAUL IN 2016

          But, why did he not keep walking, why did he turn back?

      • Dave

        LOL.. and you know this how? Were you there? Did you listen to the 911 call?
        Martin was walking though Zimmerman’s neighborhood while black… That was it.

        • BALONEY TONEY MAHONEY

          Walking or ambling, with a score in mind, perhaps?…the kid was a troublemaker, had robbed before, he threatened to beat up a bus driver the day before….Zim would’ve never called 911 if he thought the kid was just walking home, something was not right in this kid & his actions, it had nothing to do with his being black..for as anyone who followed the details, when Zim called 911 he never said Martin was black, the 911 operator asked Zim waht he looked like &, Zim did not even know for sure, after all he was wearing a hoodie.

      • smilee

        Even If that was true Zimmerman had no way of knowing that at the time, is it not interesting no one else he met that night called that cops which suggests that existed in Zimmerman’s mind only

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU5LNSpW26o

    “Selective enforcement is the hallmark of this administration!”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pif5jq4k0pk

    Judge Jeanine Pirro on Trayvon Martin vs. George Zimmerman
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R8XpS2f4Wk

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    Greta Van Susteren DESTROYS Martin Attorney ‘Jasmine Rand’
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qhhnNw6UaU

    DOJ helped bogus “student group” target George Zimmerman and the Sanford police chief http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmgCO0040IU

    And these are two IDIOTS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is5fy7mMvfQ

    • Katrael

      Thank you for your youtube links especially the one about the DOJ involvement which I found to be enlightening.

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        Katrael, about the Kriminal Illegal RESIDENT and DOJ’s involvement in the illegal and inappropriate activities is NOTHING new. But watch this video, it is a real enlightening. http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&load=8689&mpid=56

        • Katrael

          Alondra, I watched it as you suggested and I did find that it confirmed my suspicions about Martin. He wasn’t just some scared little kid. I think Bill Whittle did a good job of summing up this case.

          Maybe you’ll recognize this quote which I think also sums up the essence of this case:

          Eph 6:12 Because we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against authorities, against the world-rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual matters of wickedness in the heavenlies.
          There seems to be a lot of darkness in our government. Do well and prosper

  • Harold Olsen

    If the exact same thing happened under the exact same circumstances, with the exception that the white Trayvon Martin had been killed by the black George Zimmerman, instead of vilifying Zimmerman as blacks, the brain dead media and the left have been doing, they would be praising him as a hero and saying that Martin got what he deserved.

    • dan

      I’m seeing a pattern…the media seems to be RACIST !

  • Whackajig

    Had trayvon’s parents been white it is very unlikely that trayvon would have acted like a “N”.

  • Whackajig

    If ovomit had a nation it would look just like detroit.

  • pete1589

    Just today a Queens hispanic girl was stabbed 11 times by a black perp. Where’s the media outrage?

  • BALONEY TONEY MAHONEY

    While Root is obviously right for the most part, Hispanics can be white, or black, or any combination. Hispanic is not a race!

    The most crucial thing in the whole situation was that Martin, who was supposedly on his way home with a drink & candy, did not keep walking, but turned around & initiated a confrontation that resulted in his death. Why? because like Obummer & Holder, & Jackson & Sharpton, et. al., he had the victim consciousness & felt offended!

    • dan

      …and didn’t have the common sense that is so lacking in the youth
      of today…or half of the adults if you you believe the election results

      • Bill

        Good analogies, Dan and Baloney

    • Katrael

      Good point there about the victim mentality. This also makes me wonder if Martin was feeling guilty about something and thought he could stop his guilty feeling by projecting his guilt and his feelings of uneasiness onto someone else as being the cause of it.. I guess we’ll never know about that.

  • Average_Joe56

    If Trayvon had been white this wouldn’t have happened.
    If he had been white, he would have been smarter…and just went home to his warm and cozy room…rather than doubling back to confront Zimmerman. He also would probably wonder if the guy he was about to attack…might… just be carrying a firearm (after all, Florida has one of the highest rates for concealed carry in the nation). Yes, if Trayvon had been white, none of this would have happened and Trayvon would probably still be alive.

    • smilee

      You are a racist, as in the days of slavery, whites believed they were smarter and thus allowed to say those things and treat blacks as second class.as you just did.

      • Average_Joe56

        “You are a racist”
        For implying that my child is more intelligent than T-von? My child is still alive. My child didn’t assault anyone or get shot for doing so.
        Blacks are stupid because they choose to be. I went to school with them…I got an education. Most of them were too busy “hanging out and being cool” to get an education. They have been told (by you liberal idiots) for so long that they “need” our help, that they “can’t make it ” without our support that they believe it. They are victims…because you liberals made them victims. And rather than allowing them to pick themselves up and accomplish something on their own….you idiots keep telling them that they are victims and have been treated unfairly and that only you liberals have their best interests at heart.
        No, smilee…I am not the racist here. That would be you. You and your ilk keep holding them back by making them victims…so that you can feel good about yourselves….rather than making them stand on their own two feet and be held accountable for their accomplishments as well as their failures.
        The same can be said of Hispanics and liberals….you hold them back by saying that they take jobs that “nobody else wants”. The truth is…you have a very low opinion and expectation of Hispanics coming to this country. I would rather that they come here legally and become Doctors, Lawyers, Scientists, Mathematicians etc….not gardeners and laborers…hiding from the law and doing meaningless jobs ( that nobody else wants)
        You smilee, are a racist…and you really have to have a big set of brass balls to call someone else a racist.

        • smilee

          I implied nothing of the sort it was you who said your child was smarter than Martin and like that is why you are racist and I strongly believe that of you., I said your child was smarter than you and if you are the same race
          ( I assumed you were) then how could that be racist. Interesting that you call me racist when the last two paragraphs of your post is all racist and cruel expression of hate that always accompanies racism. I called you a racist because you by your words haven proven it. Our view are totally opposite on race. I do not hate blacks like you do and which you have so cruelly expressed.

          • Average_Joe56

            Reading comprehension problems? You may wish to take a remedial course. If you don’t understand what you’ve read, you probably shouldn’t be commenting. Doing so only proves your lack of comprehensive literary skills and lack of intelligence.
            You are correct…the last two paragraphs point out why it is YOU who are a racist and what makes you are a racist.
            Your words…prove that you are not only a racist…but an idiot as well.

          • smilee

            LIES, LIES, AND MORE LIES, ALWAYS ONLY LIES. You would not recognize the truth if it jumped up and bit you in the nose.

          • Average_Joe56

            Boring….and uninspiring. Try again…yawn……..

          • smilee

            OK the truth always bears repeating!! LIES, LIES, AND MORE LIES, ALWAYS ONLY LIES. You would not recognize the truth if it jumped up and bit you in the nose.

          • Average_Joe56

            still boring and uninspiring.
            Is your record stuck…or just a case of brain freeze?

          • smilee

            One must expect that kind of response when responding to such silly and uninspiring posts and I was responding to yours, you are the king of frozen brains

          • Nadzieja Batki

            You haven’t said anything by throwing clichés at us.

        • Katrael

          Very well said.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You weren’t there so you have no more information than the rest of us have, except most of us study History.

        • smilee

          My information came from studying the real history of what actually happened, where did you get your baloney from, thefar right wing propaganda as it seems that is what you believe based on your posts

          • Average_Joe56

            Wow, that’s a pretty broad statement. “the real history of what actually happened”.

            OK Dick Tracy, fill us in on ” the real history of what actually happened “.

            I always enjoy your fictional writing, it gives me such a chuckle.

            Convince me that you have a clue…..inquiring minds want to hear the whole story as told by smilee.

            The floor is all yours….speak up man!

          • smilee

            I know you enjoy fictional history as that is the only kind you study and know and that is why you are so lacking in reality. I’m not your teacher if you want to know if I am accurate research it and you will find out for your self that my statements are accurate and no fiction. Don’t be so lazy!!

          • Average_Joe56

            Child: smilee
            Subject: Classroom waste

            Dear parent,
            Child does not follow directions at all.
            Child claims to have valuable information and then fails to articulate that information.
            Child forms conclusions based solely on his personal beliefs rather than factual evidence.
            When cornered, child obfuscates and attempts to change the subject or blame others for his lack of factual evidence, rather than to give an articulate and well thought out conclusion.
            Child is a waste of classroom time and resources.
            Child is a waste of space and time.
            Child is wasting valuable oxygen and other valuable resources from the planet.
            This needs to be signed by your parents and returned in a timely fashion.

          • smilee

            The kind of childish response I expected to get from you, so representative of your juvenile personality.

          • Average_Joe56

            Child proves my point…..

            Didn’t follow directions.

            Attempted to misdirect and blame others.

            Formed conclusions based solely on his personal beliefs rather than factual evidence.
            Child shows signs of below normal intelligence, with little probability of improvement foreseen in the future.

            Recommendations:
            Child should be distanced from other children as some forms of stupid can be contagious( and we don’t need more stupid people cropping up, we already have plenty of liberals).
            Child should never be allowed to play with sharp objects or any object that has projectiles as he would most likely injure…. someone other than himself.
            Child should be placed in a large padded room where people can pay a small fee to poke him with very long sticks.

          • smilee

            Only an idiot would follow your instructions and that does not include me so I will not respond to your childish nonsense.

          • Average_Joe56

            lol….don’t quit your day job.
            I thought springtime was over…yet here your are…. another blooming idiot……..
            Change your moniker to…Blossom….

          • smilee

            More childish statements from AJ, day job? I’ve been long retired so i have no job just a great defined benefit pension secured by my union and my SS is based on my past wages and because of union wages my SS is way above average too. So i’m not interested in a job. You will understand things better when you grow up.

  • tesmith47

    Zimmerman was in a truck at night following Travon, Zimmerman got out of the truck and got within arms distance of Travon. this is stalking.
    fat, out of shape Zimmerman thought he could manhandle this tall skinny kid,
    started a confrontation, and was getting his buttocks beat. that is why he pulled the gun out.
    any man here knows in his heart that is what happened

    • Average_Joe56

      tesmith47,

      I’d like to take this opportunity to thank you for your service as a member of the jury. You are dismissed at this time.
      What? You weren’t on the jury?
      So, you were one of the investigating officers?
      No?
      Ah…so you just brought your unfounded and ill informed opinion to the discussion?
      Well then, pour yourself another big bowl of stupid and sprinkle a good amount of STFU over it…..
      Idiocy……you wear it well….
      Open mouth…switch feet…..

    • Iris D. Lynch

      Zimmerman got out of the truck to see what address number was close by so he could report the exact address to the dispatcher. Trayvon did not go directly ‘home’ as he should have in the rain and instead, circled back and attacked Zimmerman. Now those are the facts as they came out in court.

      Of course a truly pre-judiced person is not interested in FACTS!

      • smilee

        You only have Zimmerman’s word for that and then spoken only after he killed Martin and I’m quite sure he was more interested in saving his butt than telling the truth. The intersection would have been enough for the police and he would not have had to get out of his vehicle to see the street signs. In a free society the person decides when he should go home and that was not yours or Zimmerman’s business when he went home.. I think you are the one whom may be prejudiced. Under FL law he could claim self defense even after he stupidly put himself into the situation which he could of easily avoided if he had been content to let the police do their job instead he chose to play cop and now a man is needlessly dead because of his decisions. Zimmerman did not testify so the testimony came from those whom he told and that does not make it true only that he said it and that is true but not necessarily fact. You play very loosely with facts.

        • Katrael

          How do you know how good Zimmerman’s eyesight is at night? This case isn’t about TM or GZ it’s about power. Get over the verdict. TM is dead and GZ is free, for the time being. If this case is one of race it’s a case of one race trying to consolidate it’s power for it’s own benefit to the exclusion of another race. Nothing new here. It’s like the attorney for the TM family said, she’s a social engineer. What’s she trying to engineer is a power position for herself to use against others.

          • smilee

            He had a drivers license and you have to have good eyesight to get that so there is no reason to question his eyesight except to try to create an excuse for his poor judgement. I never mentioned the verdict and I do not criticize it or disagree with it. Who is she? you do not identify her. I respect your theory but I do not think it holds water.

          • Katrael

            I have a DL also but my headlights don’t shine on street signs and I’ve had to stop and get out to see what’s written on them. Some signs are made better than others. I guess you’ve been there and seen the signs so you know better than anybody else. Well, the original judge was a woman. She recused herself due to a conflict of interest. At least this is what I’ve found. That’s why I put the question mark after my comment. The untimely death of any person is a tragedy but it’s not that that concerns me about this case. It’s this attempt of people to grab power at the expense of others for the purpose of using that power in an inappropriate way that that bothers me the most. That’s all this case really is about.

          • smilee

            Your really trying very hard to create irrelevant excuses for him, It was Zimmermann who grabbed power all else was in response to it and it is his grabbing power that this case is really about.

          • Katrael

            Nope. I haven’t yet made an excuse for Zimmerman. You’re trying to paint him guilty. I simply asked you questions since you seem to know so much but yet you offer no proof.

          • smilee

            No I am not, go back to the post were I said I agreed with the verdict which was weather he shot in self defense and I never thought they made that case he did not, I do believe had he acted responsibility and stayed in his truck like he was told to by the dispatch Martin would still be alive today. I never said I know much about it as I have far more questions than answers and that is why the AG office is looking in to it and I believe they should as much of what happened is suspect. I do not have any proof and never said I did.

    • Bill

      Tes,
      So you were not there, but you “Know in your heart” what happened. That is the conscientious of a vigilante crowd.

      • tesmith47

        if it quacks like a duck………….
        zimmermans story makes no sense as he told it, if i were in a truck and scared of someone on the street i would STAY in the truck so i could get away..
        anyone who has been in a fight, knows that if you are losing you grab whatever weapon you can get.
        you would and I would too!. in this case there was only one story told, by the person with the gun.

        • Average_Joe56

          Still bloviating?
          What a Maroon…..

  • Average_Joe56

    Stars-n-Stripes,

    ” Let the boy rest in piece (sic)! Jerk!”

    Have you been to MSNBC today? Maybe you should go there and tell them..”GZ was found innocent…leave the guy alone!…Stop stalking the man!”

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/31/19800973-zimmerman-had-gun-in-glove-box-when-pulled-over-in-texas?lite
    Go complain to MSNBC …otherwise, it is you who are just….being a Jerk!
    BTW, the word is “peace”…or, are you just trying to get a “piece”?

  • Warrior

    What if? What if there were no “progressives”? What a wonderful world it would be…..la la la, la la la la. Sam Cooke. Great song.

    • Dave

      We would still have salvery, women stuck in the kitchen and a theocracy….or as I like to call it, the white male conservative utopia.

      • Average_Joe56

        And…*Dave would still be an idiot grasping at straws…….
        *Fixed…feel better Dave?

        • Dave

          Ok, whatever that means AJ. Conservatives do love to deny their history.

          • Average_Joe56

            Which history are you referring to *Dave? You haven’t mentioned any history…just your usual “bloviated” opinion about what if……
            What if Frogs had wings? They wouldn’t bump their arses when they land….
            What if *Dave actually said something intelligent? The universe would implode…….

          • Dave

            First off, this site is jacked up… I am not Doc, its Dave and without progressives and liberals… the conservatives of the day would have kept slavery, women out of the voting booth and generally we would not have equality for anyone except for the white male population. Or did you forget AJ?

          • Average_Joe56

            *Dave,

            Once again…..just your usual “bloviated” opinion about what if……
            Where is your proof of your assertions? As usual…missing. You make accusations about what you “ASSume” others would or would not do, say or think…
            But you never have anything…other than your opinion to back up your claims. Your claims are as empty as your head appears to be.
            You can conjecture and postulate your opinions until he11 freezes over…it won’t make them anything other than your opinion….and we all know about those…Stop talking out of yours…..
            Don’t buy a vowel…BUY A CLUE.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Dave says — “First off, this site is jacked up”.
            You are free to disappear and start your own website, Dave.
            Dave says — “without progressives and liberals… the conservatives of the day would have kept slavery, women out of the voting booth and generally we would not have equality for anyone except for the white male population”.
            Pure unsupported conjecture, Dave. You don’t even know what a Progressive is, so how could you possibly comment on what they’ve done?
            http://mises.org/daily/2543
            “I regard progressivism as basically a movement on behalf of Big Government in all walks of the economy and society, in a fusion or coalition between various groups of big businessmen, led by the House of Morgan, and rising groups of technocratic and statist intellectuals. In this fusion, the values and interests of both groups would be pursued through government”.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Dave says — “Or did you forget AJ?”.
            How can he forget what exists only in your mind, Dave?

          • Katrael

            Since what you describe didn’t happen then you are only assuming it would be the way you describe. Your view is only an opinion and like Aholes everybody has one. By the way, I acknowledge your right to be wrong.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            What history? Tell us something we don’t know.

          • smilee

            hat would take us a life time davy! Also a waste of time and energy

          • Nadzieja Batki

            What you are saying is that you do not know History, don’t bother studying it for yourself, will regurgitate what your handlers tell you, and don’t plan to study it in the future. Leftist/Marxist leaders need useful idiots like you.

          • smilee

            NO your assumptions are 100% incorrect, but then people who draw conclusions based on assumptions usually are and they are the ones whom are idiots

          • Average_Joe56

            Judging from your posts…you’ve just admitted to being an idiot…thank you. Finally we can agree…you are an idiot…..

          • smilee

            In you simple mind yes, therefore you viewing me as an idiot is a compliment to me. Other simple minds may agree with you but no one else.

          • Average_Joe56

            “Other simple minds may agree with you but no one else.”
            Obviously, since you don’t agree, you statement is patently false.
            Nice try…but flawed (something that you should be used too by now).

          • smilee

            Your declaring my statement false or flawed does not make it so and gives further proof that you do possess a simple mind.

          • Average_Joe56

            I have you, don’t I? ( the more I attack you…the more you keep coming back).
            Yep…you’re my simple mind.

            Go ahead, say something else stupid…you know you can’t resist ( it’s a libtard thing)

          • smilee

            Your right I can’t resist exposing simple minds, especially yours. I regard it as a public service

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Tell us again why you are on this site. The posters you denigrate have no slaves, women “stuck” in the kitchen, and there is no theocracy. So you are just a LIAR. But Leftism/Marxism is a religion of the State and you and your ideologues will create a theocracy.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        What do you have to support your contention, Dave? Slavery had already disappeared in most other industrialized countries in the world. It would have likely done the same in the US without the meddling of Leaders and without creating the resentment that always accompanies giving one class of people special privileges over another.

        http://mises.org/misesreview_detail.aspx?control=207
        “Slavery was already in sharp decline in the border states and the upper South generally, mostly for economic reasons . . . there is evidence that there was growing political support within the border states for gradual, peaceful emancipation that would have ended slavery there”.
        http://mises.org/journals/aen/dilorenzo.asp
        “I put together a chart that shows that from 1800 1860, there were dozens of countries that ended slavery peacefully. The only country in which it ended violently was the United States. The question becomes: why didn’t Lincoln use his legendary political skills to enact some sort of compensation scheme?”.
        http://mises.org/daily/5943/Just-War
        “It should be mentioned that the southern United States was the only place in the 19th century where slavery was abolished by fire and by “terrible swift sword.” In every other part of the New World, slavery was peacefully bought out by agreement with the slaveholders. But in these other countries, in the West Indies or Brazil, for example, there were no Puritan millennialists to do their bloody work, armed with gun in one hand and hymn book in the other”.

        • Dave

          Which side of the political fense wanted to keep slavery Dave? You know it was a long tradition in America.
          It was also traditional for women not to be able to vote. Who is more apt to want to keep women out of the voting both?
          Liberals and Progressive who embrace positive changes that support equality
          or
          Conservatives, who look at the past with fondness and any changes to society should come at a slower pace?
          You tell me.

          • JeffH

            Ignorant Dave47D, you really are stuck in “stupid” aren’t you?

            Your daily comments are full of repetitive opinions and conjecture based on your own purely ignorant view of society as a whole.

            For a self proclaimed progressive man who claims, thru his job, to be an international traveler, highly educated and working in the global arena…all you prove is how narrow minded and blind you are in life.

            There is reality and then their is Dave47D’s world and they’re 180 degrees apart.

            Seek some help you ignoramus, seek some help!

          • JeffH

            “Progressivism advocates a total break from the principles of freedom articulated in our founding documents, particularly the Declaration of Independence. It seeks to either get around or dismantle limitations on government power, the very constitutional limitations established in the Constitution for the protection of individual freedom.”

            The conservative movement is a collection of volunteers, principles and goals for the betterment of society. A defining characteristic is adherence to logic and faith above self-centered behavior. The primary goals include:

            less government

            more morality

            hard work and prosperity

            genuine charity

            Conservatives of today have embraced the internet and social media in particular, to further the cause. In addition, hundreds of thousands, some suggest even millions of Conservatives have or will participate in nationwide TEA parties, a demonstration against a government out-of-step with the “We the people.”

            Are Conservatives Racists?

            While there are always rogue members of any political movement, conservatives are not generally racists and, in fact, abide by and espouse racial tolerance.

            Conservatives see racial equality as a starting point, not a destination. They believe that if racial tolerance is an expected attitude, rather than an anticipated one, racial harmony will naturally follow.
            http://usconservatives.about.com/od/conservativemyths/f/Conservs_Racism.htm

          • Jeff

            And without Government action, how would either slavery or Jim Crow have come to an end? And how long would it have taken? So another 20, 30, 40 years of people not being able to vote or go into a public bathroom would have been OK with you? Apparently – as long as you’re not one of the people impacted.

          • JeffH

            Feeling a little guilty there unhinged Jeff?

            The ignorant unhinged Jeff is just projecting his own internal psychological state towards others in order to deny them in himself.

          • Jeff

            Are you really as stupid as you appear or is it an act?

          • JeffH

            Is unhinged Jeff as stupid as he appears?
            YES he is!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Dave says — “It was also traditional for women not to be able to vote. Who is more apt to want to keep women out of the voting both?”.
            The answer is simple, Dave — Progressives.
            Who creates the Laws, Dave? Government of course. Government is Force. They are the only entity with the Power to deny anybody the vote. Who wants Big Government, Dave — Progressives or True Conservatives?
            You still don’t understand what a Progressive is, do you? I can only lead you to the water. I can’t make you drink it.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Dave says — “Liberals and Progressive who embrace positive changes”.
            Positive changes? You call it positive to Force people to pay for healthcare insurance that they neither need nor desire? You call it positive to Force people to pay for products and services that they don’t need or desire?
            You call it positive to keep people from making their own energy choices?
            You can keep the “positive”, and you can keep the “change”. We Freedom Lovers don’t need you Liberal Progressive rapists.

          • Jeff

            Should payment of taxes be a matter of choice when it comes to the Army, too? During the Viet Nam War, many on the left felt the same way about paying for war crimes, burning babies, the whole shebang. I think you are probably consistent enough to agree with me on this point, but many who cheer you on when it comes to denying the Government funding for healthcare or social security might do an about face if it meant de-funding the military.

          • Average_Joe56

            Those of us who refuse to participate in your government healthcare scam….what do you plan to do about us? I won’t purchase the insurance…pay the fines…or participate in any form…what are you going to do about it? Hmmm? Who’s going pay for it if we won’t?
            I’m all ears ( this should be good for a laugh).Have at it…..

          • Jeff

            Way Below Average:
            I don’t care. Be a freeloader. Get free care at the ER. It will just cost DaveH some of his precious MONEY. If you have no insurance and you get hit by a car or break a leg, the hospital will treat you. They write off treatment to you deadbeats all the time. But what if you get diabetes or cancer or one of a thousand other ailments you can get that require ongoing treatment? I guess you could move to Canada.

          • Average_Joe56

            “I don’t care. Be a freeloader”
            Are you Ass-uming that I am a freeloader? Are you Ass-uming that I don’t pay my Way? Are you Ass-uming that I can’t pay my own medical bills…from my own pocket?
            You would be Ass-uming erroneously . Like Dave, I recently had an ER visit. the bill was $642.00…it was paid before I left the ER.
            Some of us were smart enough to plan for the future. Some of us managed to do the right things in life, make the right decisions and actually retire early (at 53)…sorry to hear that you weren’t bright enough to do the same….although, I am not surprised.
            It must’ve been all that Ass-uming that you’ve been doing throughout your life….bad choices yield bad outcomes…..
            Too bad…So sad…NOT!

            Open Mouth, Switch Feet……

          • Jeff

            Congratulations, Mr. Rockefeller. Talk to me when you’re hospitalized and the bill is $100,000.

          • Average_Joe56

            Still ASS-uming?

            For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen.
            Douglas Adams

          • Jeff

            I’m assuming that most people who aren’t covered by some large health plan could not pay a $10,000 hospital bill. If you can, good for you.

          • Average_Joe56

            Back pedaling ….is that what you consider to be exercise?
            Must be…you seem do it so often…why aren’t you more healthy?

          • Jeff

            I am quite healthy, but as I’ve gotten older, I recognize that health is partially a matter of keeping in good shape and partly a matter of luck. You can do everything right and a virus can still cause all kinds of problems. At 30, you may be relatively bullet-proof; by 55, you can do everything perfectly and you’re still vulnerable.

          • Bob666

            Yo Jeff,
            so far you have talked about the benefits of physical health issues and insurance. Many on this site could benefit from the mental health benefits from health insurance.

          • Jeff

            At least a few. Alondra, Ridge Rat, Faque Samurai to name a few. Of course, for Jay to be helped we’d have to find insurance that will cover a veterinary psychologist.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            In an ideal world, people shouldn’t have to pay for any goods or services they don’t want. Especially when those goods or services are in no way beneficial to us.
            So, Jeff, it seems as though you are implying that you don’t like our military being the World’s Policemen (really it’s worse than that, because they are just helping out the Crony Capitalists). Is that true? If so, why don’t you criticize Obama’s militarism?

          • Jeff

            I don’t like it any more than I liked LBJ’s adventure in Viet Nam. But I recognize that no one I’d fully support in that area will ever be President. In 2001, I agreed with Phil Donahue that an invasion of Afghanistan was not a wise move. There had to be more effective ways of battling Al Quaeda. Obama may have even felt the same way, but no politician can totally buck a national tidal wave of hysteria. That’s why the vote in Congress was virtually unanimous.
            What I was pointing out to you is your precious “thumbs ups” might evaporate if your ideas about defunding the Government applied to its war-making capability and not just to social programs benefitting the poor and middle class.

        • Jeff

          It might not have lasted more than, say, another 100 years. Maybe you should have been the one to explain that to the generations of Blacks who would have continued to live under slavery. But Government interference once again undermined the most important freedom – that of the slave owners to their PROPERTY.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            As usual, pure conjecture with no supporting evidence.
            Slavery would have died out for economic reasons, if not for moral reasons, because people who aren’t incentivized are not productive. That’s why Socialism fails every time unless it has the shoulders of Capitalists on which to ride.
            With Free Markets, those companies, who paid their workers and treated them well, would be the companies which succeeded. The others would fail. If you truly want to learn (fat chance), you can read this book:
            http://mises.org/journals/rae/pdf/rae7_2_2.pdf

    • Bill

      Good taste in music, Warrior

  • dan

    what if Obomao were white….he wouldn’t have been elected let alone made it through his first term

  • TheTruthHurtsAsWell

    “”What shall we do with the Negro?” I have had but one answer from the beginning. Do nothing with us! Your doing with us has already played the mischief with us. Do nothing with us! If the apples will not remain on the tree of their own strength, if they are wormeaten at the core, if they are early ripe and disposed to fall, let them fall! I am not for tying or fastening them on the tree in any way, except by nature’s plan, and if they will not stay there, let them fall. And if the Negro cannot stand on his own legs, let him fall also. All I ask is, give him a chance to stand on his own legs! Let him alone!”
    – Frederick Douglas

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Exactly. Leaders have been using the Blacks as pawns to further grow their Power. When they’ve used up the Blacks, they will target another hapless group to further their Power.

      • Katrael

        It would seem that your point is lost on most people. This case was and always will be about the consolidation of power.

      • KG

        And Republicans have been using the residents of trailer parks for their own nefarious ends.

    • JeffH

      Racial Grievance-Monger in Chief

      It’s always a great day when the President of the United States shoehorns himself into a local law enforcement issue in order to gin up racial resentment.
      http://theblacksphere.net/2013/07/racial-grievance-monger-in-chief/

    • Liberty Lover

      Great quote! Much of the misery surrounding black society today is the result of patronizing white politicians refusing to let blacks grow up and take responsibility for their lives..

  • me

    If whitey turned on black because of whitey getting kiied it would be like trayvon . so wrong, doesn’ matter if blackie kills whitey. Whitey majority has no rights. In this country minorities have it all. It all came to be in the late 60’s and 70’s.

  • KG

    quote: A couple of weeks ago, Barack Obama held a press conference to discuss a local court case. Highly unusual.

    Not for Republicans. How soon we forget the agony over Terri Shavio and the evil that Republicans unleashed in the name of being ‘pro-life’.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      It was a libturd judge that ruled she must die, so what is the point of this rant and argument to ridicule? Here is an article showing what happens when you ilk try to run the show.
      http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Poverty-Struggling-Whies/2013/07/28/id/517420#ixzz2aRadiy1l
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
      “Masonry ought forever to be abolished. It is wrong – essentially wrong – a seed of evil, which can never produce any good.”
      John Quincy Adams
      6th President of the U.S.
      Devout Christian

      • smilee

        The judge followed the law and what you and newsmax always want is for judges to legislate from the bench. it has nothing to do with conservative or liberal but of course you blame everything on liberals when you do not get your way. It reminds me of a two year throwing a tantrum while he blames someone else for his bad behavior.

        • Dave

          Nevermind Samurai, He is an anti-American who thinks of himself as a Christian but has no clue about America or Christianity.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            So, Leftist, you are trying to dig a new pit hoping this time you yourself won’t fall into it. It is you who has no clue about America or Christianity.

          • smilee

            For sure sammie has no clue about it or anything else.for that matter. He uses a lot of words and all without any substance.

          • JeffH

            Pot, meet the kettle!

          • Dave

            I have a stronger educatino about both compared to you and Samurai that is for sure. I know with Samuari’s attitude, he is no Christian. and I know you are no American with how quickly you would like women to be under the thumb of men again.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Yes Dave, keep on being Stupid.

          • Ringgo1

            When you continuously pose your OPINION as the belief(s) of others, you again show how stupid you apparently are.

          • Ringgo1

            When you continuously pose your OPINION as the belief(s) of others, you again show how stupid you apparently are.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            “a stronger educatino”? Is that like an anagram for educated Latino?

        • michiganminuteman

          smile, you are absolutely wrong! We want judges to STOP legislating from the bench.

          • smilee

            Your position on legal cases as on this one contradicts your words. the judge went by the law and you wanted him to rule against the law and rule the way you wanted which would be legislating from the bench,

          • Katrael

            Shows how you know. Wasn’t the judge a woman?

          • Average_Joe56

            smilee is a legend in his own mind. He has no clue of what he speaks…but dang it…he’s going to speak about it anyway.
            As you stated earlier, I support his right to be wrong.
            ;)

          • Katrael

            I didn’t follow this case until it was nearly over and there are plenty of things I don’t know about it. One thing I knew was this wouldn’t be a case about TM or GZ but one of power. I see what’s going on as a result of one isolated case out of the multitude of cases that could be argued about. I knew from the beginning it would be a media circus.
            I find myself reacting to people like smilee when I should ignore him. But, then again it might be dangerous to ignore people like smilee when there is so much harm they can do when they go un- contested. Smilee offers little or no proof of what he says and I’d like to see him offer something of substance.

          • Average_Joe56

            I am fortunate in a way, I live in central Florida, not far from Sanford. For us, this was local news which was followed pretty much daily. What news we got, was gotten before the MSM got hold of it and twisted it to suit their agenda. I watched the entire trial from beginning to end and I can tell you that watching it live was much different than getting the cherry picked “news” reports from the media. Even as the prosecutions witnesses were helping the defense, the “news” kept spinning the same old song and dance. The media had GZ convicted from the beginning and dang it, they weren’t going to let any facts get in the way of their goal.
            You are correct, we must speak out about folks like smilee, Dave, Doc Sarvis, Flashy,KG…the MSM. They are not here for honest debate…they are here to disrupt the conversation and nothing more. You can tell by the weakness of their arguments and lack of supporting documentation that debate isn’t what they seek only disruption of the site..
            Ignoring them allows their special brand of stupid to flourish and that is not good for the country or the people who are actually seeking the truth.
            Keep telling the truth…don’t allow them to indoctrinate anyone else into their special brand of lunacy. We CAN make a difference.

          • Katrael

            If this case had been a local one for me then maybe I would have followed it. I might even have been called for jury duty if it had been local enough? I was tired of hearing about this case five minutes after I first heard of it. The reason: because I knew what the MSM would do with it. However, maybe I should have followed it more closely so that I wouldn’t have to play catch up with it now. Although you’re telling me I wouldn’t have gotten the truth anyway and I believe you’re correct about that.

            What’s really sad to me is that so many will listen to, believe in and react to the lies they hear. We do make a difference and that’s exactly why the liberal/progressive coalition puts so many shills on sites like this. They’re hoping to turn a few from the truth.

          • Katrael

            I noticed the poor boy doesn’t like to give supporting evidence for his statements so I take him to task at times just to give him a hard time. I know, I’m a naughty boy for doing that, but I just don’t seem to be able to help myself.

          • smilee

            It does not matter the decision is what counts so your point means nothing

          • Katrael

            Sure it does if you had been wrong. The judge who finished trying this case was a man as the woman judge who started with this case recused herself because of a conflict of interest. I was just picking on you. Your mouth makes a very good target. I will admit that I don’t know everything about this case and that it’s difficult to know what the truth is. It’s not just the verdict that matters here as the liberal/progressive portion of this country continues to make an issue of a case that has been settled. What’s the reason for that if it’s not a power play? To get justice? And if it turned out that Zimmerman were found not guilty again would they continue to pursue yet another trial? Not only that but the MSM made Zimmerman out to be a racist thug even before his trial was over. By the way, one of the Martin family’s attorneys, Jasmine Rand, in an interview with Greta on Fox News, made the statement that she was a social engineer. In my opinion she is only using the Martin Case to further her political career and I’ll never believe she’s out for justice for Martin or his family after she made that statement. She’s following the road of so many, like Jackson, who’ve jumped on the Martin bandwagon.

            Smilee, there are to many real cases of hate crimes out there to have to stretch to use this case as an example of one. The truth is that Martin was anything but a peaceful little cherub. He was out to make trouble and he indulged in using crap that was ruining his body. Of course your going to use the worn out platitude that Zimmerman couldn’t have known that and that he was stalking Martin, but the facts don’t bear that out.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qhhnNw6UaU

          • smilee

            The American revolution, the civil war, woman’s suffrage, civil rights movement , and the labor movements were all power plays but for a just cause and all were good and proved in the long run to be beneficial for later generations and this to is a just cause as we have culture problems that probably will not get addressed without power plays as that is the only way in most cases it has been done in our history. This is more about that than this trial or its verdict. Martin had not committed any crime or was in the process of committing a crime and if GZ had stayed in this vehicle this most likely would not have happened. As far know he only went to the store for snacks and was followed by GZ for reasons known only to himself but no one else there that night saw what GZ claims to have seen and none called the police. Why not?? This case raises more questions than answers which can not be answered, but were there is smoke there is also fire. .GZ had been no angel either and has a record. I agree with you on Greta

          • Katrael

            Ho hum, if you want to continue with that tired old line about GZ staying in his vehicle that’s fine. It didn’t happen that way. As far as power plays: you quote some good examples that seem to have worked out for the best and I can quote many examples from history of power plays that wrought evil. However, nothing is ever finished and the ramifications of all power plays haven’t been realized either.

            Now, the power plays that liberals engage in are meant to advance the cause of murder (abortion), disease (disease spread through homosexual activity). and theft through legal means (albeit immoral ones) to support many people who have no interest in working.

          • smilee

            Power plays in the defense of goodness is beneficial and power plays for any other reason are not I do not dispute that. I just totally disagree with the rest of your post as I do not think your conclusions are accurate.

          • Katrael

            Just couldn’t bring yourself to say it could you: goodness and e e e ev ev il. These two ideas of goodness and evil are to subjective for mere mortals. One man’s evil is another man’s good. My point with my post? This always has been an issue of power: who has it and want’s to keep it versus who doesn’t have it and wants to get it.
            Those who have the power, i.e. the president, have an evil agenda a heart or they wouldn’t have taken something like this case and blown it all out of proportion to it’s importance. They/he knew that racial tensions would escalate by speaking out in favor of Martin. This is nothing more than political grandstanding and obfuscation and the political leeches have latched on and are sucking as hard as they can.

            I don’t care if you think my conclusions are accurate or not. They are.

          • smilee

            I do not care what you think either as there is no doubt in my mind your conclusions are not factually supported. I addressed good and evil so I have no idea what you are talking about

        • Katrael

          Liberals are totally to blame for all the worlds ills. This is my opinion and I’m entitled to it.

          • smilee

            True and I am entitled to believe your 100% wrong and I do but this was not a liberal issue so whats your point?

          • Katrael

            Simple, liberals will use this case to help convince those sitting on the fence that a conservative lifestyle equals a vigilante/lynch mob mentality. this case, a case that never should have garnered MSM attentions as they don’t pay attention to so many they should, is being used by every political opportunist out there. It’s popular and they can easily use it to keep themselves in the forefront. They’ll discard the Martin family the minute that the MSM gets bored with it. You’re either a liberal shill or someone who’s taken the hook, line and sinker of the liberal/progressive propagandists movement or both.

          • smilee

            Your whole post is based on assumptions not supported my fact. I respect your opinion but I simply do not agree with it as none of it is true.

          • Jeff

            Only 7 thumbs up for that one? Wow, maybe you have bad breath. Are liberals responsible for that, too?

          • Katrael

            Sure, they’re responsible for my bad breath, my athletes foot infection and more. How astute of you to pick up on my attempt to act like most of the liberals in the world.

          • Bob666

            “Liberals are totally to blame for all the worlds ills”,
            now that was funny.

          • Katrael

            So glad you enjoyed my attempt to behave like a liberal.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          I do not want a judge to legislate from the bench. Where did I post that? Nice try at twisting my words, but you have failed miserably. Next, except during certain felony trials, a judge does not have the authority to say “let them die” from the bench. That would be giving that judge the ability to play God and it is not in their job description. The rest of your post is nothing but unwanted personal attacks, argument to ridicule, and shows immaturity on your part. What? No source to prove me wrong again? It seems that you are not a good debater or blogger. I see my post has 8 thumbs up and yours has 7 thumbs down, so who do you think the people believe is correct? It sure isn’t you. Now go home and let the people who want to right the course of this country try their best at doing it. You are a disgrace to this country and a joke on this site. BTW, are you still stinging from that spanking Dave H, along with others, gave you concerning your union crap? Here is an article showing why Obama bin Laden wants to destroy America.
          http://www.libertyalliance.com/2013/07/answer-to-why-obama-wants-to-destroy-america/
          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
          “Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.”
          Benjamin Franklin
          Founding father
          Devout Christian
          Not a deist

          • smilee

            You are totally wrong again ,as usual, you have many times criticized the courts for ruling with the law and made clear you wanted it your way not the laws way you have called for that many times for the court to do that and you were wrong every time and two come to mind Obamacare and gay rights issues where what you wanted was legislating from the bench but they went by the Constitution and you did not want them too, i have doubts you believe in the Constitution and you certainly do not understand it., so that proves you wrong on just two of the many times you have done this and now you say different and that is why I call you out on so many of your lies which you do very frequently. I have no idea what court case you are talking about where the judge played God and your words there make no sense what so ever.Your lying again as davy never gave me a spanking. You are so confused and mixed up which is the story of your life. You have earned all the criticisms i have made of you as you are guilty as sin of all of them, yours about me are just more of your lies for which you have become so famous for, You have no clue what maturity is and as immature as you are I suspect you have no idea what maturity even is.

          • Jeff

            So democracy counts on this site but not at the ballot box? Smilee is supposed to submit to your opinion because you got “thumbs ups” from some wackos on this blog, but Obama’s majority at the ballot box is meaningless? Save if for your “class.”

        • Katrael

          Just what is the “way” that I’m trying to get?

          • smilee

            I have no idea what post your referring to or what you are asking.

          • Katrael

            “The judge followed the law and what you and newsmax always want is for
            judges to legislate from the bench. it has nothing to do with
            conservative or liberal but of course you blame everything on liberals
            when you do not get your way.” Short memory. Care to expound?

          • smilee

            It says it all, the judge got it right, so nothing else to add

          • Katrael

            Also, where have I ever said that I want judges to legislate from the bench? We all know that they do though and it’s through a thing called “precedent”.

          • smilee

            I have no idea what post your referring to or what you are asking. Certainly not this one, can you point out the right one.

          • Katrael

            Hmm, I thought that I responded to you but I don’t see my post here. Oh well let me try again. You said, “The judge followed the law and what you and newsmax always want is for
            judges to legislate from the bench. it has nothing to do with
            conservative or liberal but of course you blame everything on liberals
            when you do not get your way.”
            Now, you said that I want judges to legislate from the bench and I responded with: they do it and it’s called a “precedent.” What I want to know is how you know that’s what I want? Did I ever say I wanted judges to legislate from the bench? I also want to know what my “way” is?

            Yes, why shouldn’t I blame every evil on liberals? They practice evil.

          • smilee

            My recollection for the post you quoted was my response to sammie not you. I never thought this was in response to anything you said, I know what sammie wants I do not know what you want. For sure you have no sense of what liberals are about even though you think you do. I think your confused on this.

          • Katrael

            Sure I know what liberals want. They say what they want all of the time. Some want more than others. Like the NAMBLA crowd. They want legalized sex with adolescent’s. Most generic liberal/progressives want:
            Paid abortions, strict gun control, homosexual rights including marriage rights, everybody else to pay their way, free healthcare(?) strict business regulation. Let’s see, did I leave anything out? Probably.

          • Katrael

            You suffer with CRS disease. You can’t even remember what you said. You need help.

          • smilee

            smilee samurai
            • 2 days ago

            The judge followed the law and what you and newsmax always want is for judges to legislate from the bench. it has nothing to do with conservative or liberal but of course you blame everything on liberals when you do not get your way. It reminds me of a two year throwing a tantrum while he blames someone else for his

            As I said in the other response this was in response to sammie and your so confused you thought it was yours, looks to me like it is you who has CRS and a bad case of it to. Seee above

          • Katrael

            If it comes to my inbox with a note that it is in reply to my posting then I take it to mean just that.

          • smilee

            and, you trying to same something, we all get it in their inboxes. but you have the option to ignore it

      • KG

        I’m still waiting for those bible verses that said Jesus liked religious people.

    • Average_Joe56

      So, are you implying that Obama is just following in Bush’s footsteps? That Bush’s actions were “evil” and “objectionable” ?
      Then, by your own standards, Obama’s actions which have been “unleashed”, are also “evil” and “objectionable”.
      Looks like another case of Monkey see, Monkey do…..while the rest of you simians keep your eyes, ears and mouths closed to anything that involves…your particular tribe. It’s always somebody else’s fault …right?
      Who woulda thunk?

      • smilee

        The republicans got involved in Terri Shavio life, flying back to DC with intentions of writing a special law taking the legal rights of her and her husband away from them, Obama merely commented on the case and never got involved in it. There is a big difference between the two. I thunk you is very confused.

        • Average_Joe56

          smilee, you’ve never “thunk” in your life….who are you kidding?
          Btw, unlike you libturds…I don’t condone Bush’s actions….but I also don’t try to put the blame elsewhere. Was Bush an idiot? Yes…
          Was Obama and idiot? Yes.
          You don’t get to absolve Obama by implicating Bush….we aren’t buying the BS that you are trying to sell. That sales tactic has gone by the wayside…you’ve been trying to use it for 5 plus years ( it’s been a No Sale for at least 5 plus years). Obama’s involvement ( In all of his numerous scandals)…are his and his alone….deal with it.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            It depends on your definition of idiot. They both have gotten what they want — Power and the Perks that go with it. The real idiots are the voters who keep re-electing Big Government Growthers who are not only non-productive but negatively productive. And they are finally sucking so much from their host that the host is dying. Still the zealots won’t wake up to the reality of Big Government.

          • smilee

            Lies lies and more lies, always lies, that is the only thing you have any expertise in and your post here is 100% that, thinking people would not express anything the way you just did, they know better

          • Katrael

            Hey smilee, why don’t you show us why DaveH is a liar. Can’t do it can you?

          • smilee

            I goofed my post was in response to average joe and his lies should be obvious to all, sorry davy

          • Average_Joe56

            You goofed…when you opened your mouth.

          • JeffH

            …and in your world pigs can fly right alongside the Unicorns…chasing the rainbows…

          • smilee

            MY MY , such intelligence, rather more like the lack of it

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Are you claiming that you are a thinking person? Not from your comment you are not.

          • smilee

            Yes and I’ve proved i can and if you were capable of thinking you would know that but that would be expecting the impossible from you

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Sea Kelp, Sleepee.

          • JeffH

            LoL!

          • smilee

            I did not do that I merely pointed out the differences between the two situations and they are very different, thinking people get that you just proved you cannot think or you would have known that. It had nothing to do with absolution you injected that because of your inability to think. There was no sales pitch and again you injected that and again because you are incapable of thinking, I will ignore your personal attack as I view them as childish but so typical of you.

          • Average_Joe56

            “I did not do that ”

            You most certainly did.

            ” I merely pointed out the differences between the two situations and they are very different”

            You most certainly…did not.

            And neither should have been involved in any way, shape or form…period.

            “thinking people get that you just proved you cannot think or you would have known that.”

            Coherent sentences are welcome.. try writing one sometime.

            “There was no sales pitch and again you injected that and again because you are incapable of thinking”

            You are constantly trying to sell us your line of BS…we aren’t buying it.

            “I will ignore your personal attack as I view them as childish but so typical of you.”
            Yes, if you close your eyes, put your fingers in your ears and start going..lalalalalalalala… the insults aren’t really there……
            Now, fly over the rainbow with your purple unicorn and retrieve your pot of gold…..

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          This isn’t a Republican or Democrat thing. It’s a Big Government thing. The Leaders will swing whichever way gets them more Power and Wealth. And they are happy to lead the zealots around by the nose to get their way.

          • smilee

            Obama’s words were personal and had nothing to do with government big or small. Bush and company tried to use the government for their own religious beliefs.

          • JeffH

            “This isn’t a Republican or Democrat thing. It’s a Big Government thing”
            Pssssst, you spilled the beans…but I doubt he/she will pick up on it.

          • Jeff

            Dave, you’re getting there. 6 “thumbs up.” A dream come true. Almost as many as Jacobite2. My God, you really are a great man after all.

    • Bill

      KG,
      So your photo is of a Marxist who praised another Marxist. Why do you waste your time on a Libertarian site when you are preaching communism?

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        This isn’t a Libertarian website, Bill, but close.

        • Bill

          Hi, Original Dave
          I just can’t figure out why this site attracts so many communists. Unless they think they can convert us

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I believe they are here because Bob is waking people up to reality, and they are doing their best to thwart that education.
            Their intensity is a good sign that Bob must be reaching people.

          • Bill

            Amen to Brother Bob,
            Another famous philosopher said “You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth”

          • KG

            The problem is that it’s yous guys who need the truth.

          • Bill

            You mean like the truth under Joseph Stalin, Mao tse Tung and Pol Pot?

          • Jeff

            All those people hated liberal democracy above all!

          • Bill

            I see little Jeffy is back,
            Just have to get your two cents in.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            You are taking it upon yourself to supposedly “give” us the truth. Don’t we have a choice in the matter to not wanting your trash wrapped in a golden wrapper.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Well, at least you’re an equal opportunity basher.
            Too much coffee this evening?

  • Warren A. Dobler

    What if Trayvon Martin were white? Here is a case where he was. http://themartialist.net/?p=306

    • BJ

      Excellent comparison, Warren. In my opinion, the jury made the right decision, although I don’t think Mr. Scott should have been charged in the first place. Clear case of self-defense based on the information presented in the article. The so-called, upstanding teenagers should not have been out in a drunken, drug-induced state stealing stuff out of people’s cars. Case in point, though, as that case did not make national news, no one protested in the streets, Al and Jesse have said nothing, the federal government is not considering civil rights charges, etc. This country is turning into a crazed, liberal circus right before our eyes and it is happening at an exponential rate under the Obama administration.

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    No response possible due to lack of intellectual content by stars and stripes. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
    You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
    “Power always thinks that it is doing God’s service when it is violating all His laws.”
    John Adams
    Founding father
    2nd President of the U.S.
    Devout Christian

    • smilee

      Your not capable of recognizing intellectual content even if it bit you in the butt.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        More clichés. Your handlers cannot let you loose with language.

        • smilee

          Sounds like a cliche but having known sammie for a long time I know this from the past to be true so it is fact not cliche

  • 1olderbutwiser1

    Wayne, how well put. Rather than let this guy finish his term, let’s get the impeachment started. Look at his actions as opposed to the actions of Clinton. Since Clinton is white, he was held to higher standards. Time to level this playing field by acknowledging racism is a crime by all people, not just whites.

  • Dave

    Really Wayne? If Martin was white, there would be an uproar because an hispanic killed a white youth who was unarmed.
    And people like you would be calling for Zimmerman’s head.

    • Bill

      You are wrong, Dave
      If Trayvon was white, the press would not have said a thing

      • Dave

        And your proof of that is where? A white women disappears in a Carribean island and it mobilized the entire corp media press corp.
        I would say that it would have probably garnered even more coverage.

        • Nomad

          Difference is whites didn’t threaten to kill people or riot during those times Dave. The president didn’t say if I had a daughter she would look like “blank”. Or if she was black, bla bla. Your a skeptic troll Dave. Get the difference Dave? Probably not.

          • Dave

            Whites were never subjudgated in this country either. Blacks were never the majority…. there is all kinds of little details you leave out of your generalizations

          • WTS/JAY

            Dave: Whites were never subjudgated in this country either. Blacks were never the majority….

            Until Obama took office!

          • Jeff

            It’s not Obama’s fault your owner started buying the cheap sunflower seeds, Jay, and stopped lining the cage with the pronouncements of Glenn Beck.

          • WTS/JAY

            Well, at least we both agree regarding Glenn Beck’s pronouncements. Now, throw in Obama’s, and i’ll make sure to double-up on my seed consumption…(-:

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Oh please. Anybody foolish enough to believe that needs to read this:
            http://library.mises.org/books/Murray%20N%20Rothbard/Conceived%20in%20Liberty_Vol_2.pdf

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Pure conjecture, Dave, as usual.

      • dave

        My conjecture can beat up your conjecture…

        • JeffH

          …so does your ignorance…beat his conjecture!

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          That’s a given, Dave, because I don’t speak unless I can speak factually and can back it up with logic and evidence.
          You, on the other hand, fall under the category of “It’s better to be quiet and be supposed a fool, then to speak and remove all doubt”.

    • maybefree

      It’s amazing how you can generalize without doing any home work.

      http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top_stories/490926/jury-finds-roderick-scott-not-guilty/

    • JeffH

      You know this how?
      Oh, that’s right…your opinion makes it a fact!

  • Katrael

    There’s an old saying: You’ve got three fingers pointing back at you when you point your finger at others. I also believe that the POTUS is doing his best to distract the attention of the masses away from his inability to do anything constructive.

    • JeffH

      Sure he is…as a Marxist commuity organizer, the job is to stir the pot, keep it boiling…truth is irrelevant…the end justifies the means.

      “A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third
      stage of reorganization into a new social order of the dictatorship of the
      proletariat, and finally the last stage — the political paradise of communism.”

      “An organizer working in and for an open society is in an ideological dilemma to begin with, he does not have a fixed truth — truth to him is relative and changing; everything to him is relative and changing…. To the extent that he is free from the shackles of dogma, he can respond to the realities of the widely different situations….”
      – Saul Alinsky

      • Katrael

        I notice this same trait, shifting truths, to be something in common with all liberal/progressives. It’s dangerous to leave these people uncontested and that is the only reason I respond to them. We can’t let their voices be louder than ours. I find their platitudes to be annoying which must also be part and parcel with their methods.

  • http://www.OlGreyGhost.Blogspot.com/ Ol’ Grey Ghost

    “By the way, Zimmerman isn’t white. He is Hispanic. But liberals never
    let facts get in the way of a good story. That’s why the media and the
    race-baiters have coined a new phrase: “white Hispanic.” Sounds like a
    new race was invented just to justify liberals’ use of the word “racism”
    to discuss this case.”

    As much as I hate to defend the MSM, “White Hispanic” is not something they made up. It was the federal government. On many government forms that require information on a person’s race (like a ATF 4473), people like myself must check “White, non-Hispanic” while people like Mr. Zimmerman would check “White, Hispanic.”

    And an interesting side note on “Hate Crime” statistics kept by the FBI and DoJ. When a Hispanic person is the victim of a “Hate Crime,” then that person is Hispanic. When he or she is the perpetrator of a “Hate Crime,” then he or she is “White.” That’s why when you see statistics that show Blacks commit violent crime at a rate 10 times that of “Whites and Hispanics combined,” its because the statistics are kept in this fashion…

    • Bill

      I think I will start checking “Plieadian” on all of my government forms.
      In the 70’s, when we had affirmative action, I made my grandmother a Menominee indian. So, naturally they had to hire me because I was an “Indian”

      • http://www.OlGreyGhost.Blogspot.com/ Ol’ Grey Ghost

        I would prefer we didn’t have any boxes to check…

        “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”

        I could also look forward to the day I’ll just check “Texan” and confuse the daylights out of the whole lot of ‘em…

        http://olgreyghost.blogspot.com/2013/07/eric-holder-declares-war-again-on-texas.html

        • Average_Joe56

          On the Census, I checked other and wrote in Human ;)

          • JeffH

            Well done…I wrote in “American”.

          • Jeff

            So you lied?

          • Average_Joe56

            Never…that’s in your job description…not mine.
            In the future, if you’re going to attempt a battle of wits….arm yourself.

        • Bill

          Hi Grey Ghost,
          The sad reality is that it is not going to change anytime soon. So, in the mean time, we have to outsmart them. And that should not be too hard.

          • http://www.OlGreyGhost.Blogspot.com/ Ol’ Grey Ghost

            Anytime soon? The quote above is from MLK’s “I Have a Dream” speech delivered 50 years ago…

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_A_Dream

            We need to outsmart them and circle the wagons at the same time. Keep the faith and we might just win this thing…

          • Jeff

            See if you can outsmart Jay first. What you do is take a tennis ball in your left hand, pretend to throw it, but switch it to your right. He falls for that one every time.

  • Bill

    If Trayvon were white, the press would have never said a word

    • KG

      What if he were Jewish?

      • Bill

        Kg,
        Here you are an admitted communist, and you are commenting on a self defense shooting. But yet you are advocating a political system that is responsible for more murders than any other cause in the last century.
        What about the 60,000000 people that were murdered under communism?

        • KG

          What about the 350,000 workers that have died on the job since 1970? Capitalism kills almost as bad, but it’s worse. Everyone of these people went to work that morning expecting to go home.

          http://www.aflcio.org/Blog/Political-Action-Legislation/Daily-Job-Death-Toll-150-Workers

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Let’s see, 350,000/42=8,000 per year.
            The Holodomor (caused by Communism) — 3.9 million in one year.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

            Nope, not even close, KGB.

          • KG

            Are you being strictly “Malthusian” in your calculus? Or are you considering that the 350,000 Americans that were murdered by capitalist were just as valuable as Russian peasants?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You’re mixing apples and oranges, KGB, as usual. The workers weren’t murdered. They had a choice. If they thought their jobs were too dangerous, they could seek employment elsewhere. The Ukrainians had no such choice. The Communists forcefully confiscated their grain and they starved to death as a result.

          • KG

            Is what the stalinists did in Ukraine any better or worse what the American capitalists did to the eastern American Indians? And why were the Indians ‘removed’? Why were the Ukranians persecuted by the Russians? Did they starve because of central planing? Or was it actually a natural predictable cycle in the grain harvests of that time? Nobody is really sure about that. I’m not defending anything that Stalin did since Stalin was NOT a ‘communist’ but more of a traditional Fascist.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            American Capitalists? Do you even know what Capitalism is, KGB? It means strictly enforced Property Rights, and voluntary trading in Free Markets.
            The Indians were not persecuted by “American capitalists”. They were persecuted by American Government. The same Government that you want to build even larger than it already is.
            And you say — “Stalin was NOT a ‘communist’ but more of a traditional Fascist”.
            Sure, KGB. And Fidel was a Fascist, and Mao was a Fascist. Whatever you say. You apparently also don’t know what Fascism is. Under Fascism the Government doesn’t own the means of Production, but it works closely with the Producers to protect them from competition and guarantee their security.
            Under Communism, which is what the USSR, China, Cuba, and North Korea practiced, the Government owns everything. So how do they acquire the ownership of everything from the original creators and owners of those assets? By Force, of course. How else?
            You like ownership of Property as much as anybody, KGB. If you didn’t, you wouldn’t advocate Unions to get you more of it from the original owners of that Property. So, how do you justify the disconnect of wanting more Property, and your advocation of Communism where nobody owns their Property?

          • KG

            quote: Sure, KGB. And Fidel was a Fascist…

            Felix Rodriguez, the CIA assassin of Che Guevara claimed that in his interview Che expressed a disconnect from Fidel – specifically on which direction Fidel was going with Cuba. Che was a Revolutionary and wished the role of liberator. However, Fidel seemed to relish in his role as a dictator – something that made Che feel disgusted.

            What one calls ‘more’ is in context to what one has. If someone has nothing, then getting something would be ‘more’ than what he had. If me and my fellow workers feel that we are not being compensated commensurate to what we are producing, then we have the natural right to have a redress of that grievance. If the owner disagrees, and we feel justified in our demands, then the only option a worker has is to withdraw his labor until his grievance is addressed.

            The problem with you is not your lack of intellect, rather a lack of actual human experience. If you were to have experiences similar to what most young people are experiencing now, maybe you might have enough gall to want to ‘throw off the chains of capitalism”.

            I’d like to have a discussion of property, but I’m afraid all you will do is call me names.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            KGB says — “If you were to have experiences similar to what most young people are experiencing now”.
            What the young people are feeling now is the stifling weight of Socialism bearing down on them. Some will be too brainwashed from their Public School education to figure it out, and some will throw off the chains and start working towards extricating Socialism from our once wonderful country.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            KGB says — “If me and my fellow workers feel that we are not being compensated commensurate to what we are producing, then we have the natural right to have a redress of that grievance. If the owner disagrees, and we feel justified in our demands, then the only option a worker has is to withdraw his labor until his grievance is addressed”.
            Yeah right, KGB. More like you’ll go on strike and coerce those who would be grateful to have the job you spurn, bully the company’s potential customers, trespass on the company’s property, and often times resort to outright violence, all in an effort to Force your employer to grant you above market wages at everybody else’s expense (customers, non-Union workers, and the company’s owners).
            http://www.righttoworkcommittee.org/fuva1b_videofb.aspx?pid=FBSFB

          • KG

            The old timers say “..turn em or burn em!”
            “Want some whine with that cheese, rat?”

            I try to look at every worker I see as a future brother.

            Believe me, the labor movement has learned a lot of lessons along the way – just as capitalism. While many business hired ‘Pinkerton’ guards to beat up and intimidate workers, now the Police do that for them so it doesn’t look like a ‘labor’ dispute but a riot.

            One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            KGB says — “I try to look at every worker I see as a future brother”.
            Sure, KGB, unless they’re a “Scab” or a “Rat”, i.e. any of the many people who would gladly take what KGB and his violent Union buddies turn their nose up at.

            KGB says — “One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter”.
            No, KGB, he is still a terrorist but his beholder is wearing blinders to insure his own self-interest.

          • KG

            quote:…the many people who would gladly take what KGB and his violent Union buddies turn their nose up at.

            Sure, these guys don’t want to work on a ladder missing a few rungs, but Joe Blow will.

            These guys don’t want to work for 50 cents an hour, but Manuel Laboradoria here will.

            These guys wont work on Sunday unless we pay them double time, but sister Mary Margaet here will work for free.

            So, these ‘jobs’ that Union workers turn their noses up have reasons why, But, of course, you would gladly work in a hole with no shoring. It’s only going to take 10 minutes, why should we spend the money on shoring?

            Here is an example of something that happens every day in America.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            So in other words, KGB, you and your Union buddies are too cowardly to do what your replacement workers would be willing to do, but you have no compunctions about dealing violence on them for daring to take a job to support their families.
            Thanks for backing up my statement, KGB.

          • KG

            Not too cowardly, but too smart. I am a Union electrician and I have worked around lots of dangerous environments. However, I do not get the wages I earn by working in dangerous environments, I get my wages because people before me fought and died so I could work in safety with a good wage. And that’s what we want for ALL workers. However, you may have to acknowledge that you didn’t do it all yourself. And some people cannot do that. Especially the ones who think they are ‘self-made rugged individualists’. On the job, we call them ‘cowboys’. They are usually the ones who get carried out on a stretcher because of something stupid – like standing on the top rung of a ladder or something.The preamble to our IBEW Constitution says it all.

            Our purpose is:

            To organize all workers in the entire electrical industry in the United States and Canada, including all those in public utilities and electrical manufacturing, into local unions,
            • To promote reasonable methods of work,

            • To cultivate feelings of friendship among those of our industry,

            • To settle all disputes between employers and employees by arbitration (if possible),

            • To assist each other in sickness or distress,

            • To secure employment,

            • To reduce the hours of daily labor,

            • To secure adequate pay for our work,

            • To seek a higher and higher standard of living,

            • To seek security for the individual,

            • And by legal and proper means to elevate the moral, intellectual and social conditions of our members, their families and dependents, in the interest of a higher standard of citizenship.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Yeah sure, KGB, and Jaws just wants to get a little taste of us before he spits us back out.
            http://www.alibris.com/search/books/qwork/6925650/used/Union%20Violence%3A%20The%20Record%20and%20the%20Response%20by%20Courts%2C%20Legislatures%2C%20and%20the%20Nlrb
            You and your Socialist Union Members should start your own companies, KGB, and then you can do all those things you desire without Forcing your way on anybody. What’s keeping you from that?

          • KG

            That’s the irony of the situation. We need the entrepreneur as much as he needs our labor. I want the contractors I work for to have fat pockets. That’s why I am continuously taking journeyman classes to keep my skills up to date. Last year I spent almost 500 hours outside of work to take classes. Many non-union electricians MAY have a certificate form a community college from ten years ago.

            I work for top wages. And I give top work.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            If that was the case, KGB, you wouldn’t need a coercive Union to get paid what you’re worth.

          • KG

            Don’t you see? I’m not paid what I worth. If I did I would starve. I’m paid what I can get, and working Union, I get what I would like to think I’m worth. If you ask my boss, he would say 25 cents – a call to the hall.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You’re not paid what you’re worth? If you were you’d starve? Did I get that wrong, KGB?
            If not, wow, a moment of great candor from KGB.
            So, KGB, if you’re paid more than you’re worth, who do you think pays that? Your company already must keep their prices reasonable or they lose customers to other companies. So if they pay you more, where does it come from? They can try to raise their prices, but if their customers balk, they must do something else. They can lower their non-Union workers’ salaries, but those workers may seek work elsewhere. They could give up some of their meager profits (usually about 5 to 10%), but they probably already are making about as little as they’d stand for. So the next step would be going out of business or moving to a country with fewer rules and Unionists. I mean if they can’t make at least 5% on their money, there are easier ways to make that much without the headaches of putting up with you guys.

          • KG

            Are you paid what you are worth? Do you rescue puppies? Do you work for free? Or do you wish to be paid what you think you are worth? Is anybody paid what they are worth? Of course not! They are paid “what the market can bear.” And if my employer can pay me union wages and benefits and still be profitable, it makes me wonder how much is the non-union being underpaid?

          • KG

            Heres a good article. You may enjoy it.

            http://www.businessinsider.com/labor-unions-wages-2013-8

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            KGB,
            If you believe companies are making too much money, then don’t buy their products. It’s as simple as that.
            If you believe companies aren’t paying you what you’re worth, then don’t work for them, or start your own company to prove your worth. It’s as simple as that.
            Granted, there are indeed companies that are taking advantage. They’re called Crony Capitalists. They get Government to give them special protections like taxpayer subsidies, price controls, quotas, regulations, and many other special-privilege devices which give them an advantage over their competitors (the Market Capitalists).
            Those companies can only exist in a political environment where the Government is involved with the economy. Without the aid of the Force of Government, they would have no choice but to please their consumers and their workers, or go out of business.
            Oddly enough, you guys (Socialist Progressives) want to grow the very Government which dishes out that favoritism. Why is that? Are you just innocently ignorant, or are you sharing in the spoils?

          • KG

            quote: Are you just innocently ignorant, or are you sharing in the spoils?

            Yes I am, as long as I am in a Union. And as long as I’m an American.

            It would be nice if Austrian economics actually worked, but, unfortunately for potential ‘moralist’ dictators like yourself, it just doesn’t ‘work’ like that.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Well at least you admit it.

            KGB says — “It would be nice if Austrian economics actually worked, but, unfortunately for potential ‘moralist’ dictators like yourself, it just doesn’t ‘work’ like that”.

            What part of “Austrian economics” are you referring to, KGB? Some specifics please, rather than broad generalizations.

          • KG

            The problem with you ,Dave, is that your superior morality is blocking your view of reality. Austrian Economics was tried in America. Beginning with president Warren G Harding’s policy of ‘hands off’ the economy and ending with Hoovers inaction as well as his constant refrain of “…prosperity is just around the corner.” And what was the result of that? The Great Depression.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You really are clueless, aren’t you KGB?
            Are you purposely trying to misinform people? Or are you just innocently ignorant?

            Warren Harding’s “hands off” saved us from a much deeper depression in 1920:
            http://mises.org/daily/3788

            Herbert Hoover was a Socialist who intervened dramatically in the Marketplace and started the ball rolling for an unnecessarily long 14 year Depression:
            http://mises.org/rothbard/agd/chapter8.asp

          • Bill

            Let’s see, you divide 350,000 by 60,000000 and you have
            .0005 %
            Your math is pretty bad

          • KG

            I guess you think Americans are worth the same as Russian peasants?

          • Bill

            So you are saying it is ok to kill Russian Peasants.
            Boy you really are a sick puppy

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            He is Stalinists aka Hitlerist.

    • Jeff

      Yes, because Zimmerman would have been arrested on the spot. It would have been a local story with no national implications.

      • Average_Joe56

        Jeffro,
        I would suggest that you stop acting a fool….but apparently…it’s no act……

        • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

          He is out of his med and his boy-friend did not visit him.

  • AmericanMan2012

    President Obama is a Race activist , divisive in every way, just looking to make minorities feel hopeless, picked on, discriminated against, so that he can be the shining knight that comes to the rescue, because he cares so so much.
    If he cared so Fr**king much he would have cancelled his 100 million $$ Africa trip and built housing for the blacks in Detroit, or helped blacks in South Philadelphia who are living in ghettos , yet voted for Him 100% .

    The dirty deception of politics. Liars.

  • AmericanMan2012

    The state media are just as guilty as Obama ,for pumping up false racism, and are complicit in the Federal Governments treason , by misleading, lying, and omitting the truth, about what the Executive branch is doing to dismantle the true Constitutional frame works , so that a delusional socialist utopian society can replace freedom.
    All Traitors, NBC, ABC, CNN, CBS

    • KG

      quote:so that a delusional socialist utopian society can replace freedom.

      Like this explanation of a “…delusional socialist utopian society…”:

      …in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity…
      ?

      • AmericanMan2012

        The union is divided by Liberal power grabbers,
        The justice is bent to satisfy those in power,
        There is no tranquility at home or abroad, just divisiveness.
        There is no defense of our borders,
        There is plenty of welfare,

        There isn’t any blessing allowed with the military court marshalled for mentioning God, or praying.
        And there isn’t a general prosperity , just less prosperity.

        • KG

          If it’s really that bad, why not just kill yourself?

          • Average_Joe56

            You first…we’re not sure how to accomplish that…show us how it’s done. ( if you actually die, we’ll know it works)

          • KG

            Hey, your the one with all the problems. I actually enjoy living in the greatest country in the world. Why can’t you?

          • Average_Joe56

            The only problem in my life…is dealing with idiot libtards (like you). So, if you kill yourself…one of my problems goes away…c’mon man…help a guy out….heck…help a bunch of us out.

          • KG

            If I were to die, my problems are over. But conservatives like yourself are so concerned about the Afterlife that you cannot enjoy life now. Unless your an Ayn Rand atheist. Then your only objective is to be as selfish as you can. Because we all know how ‘happy’ selfish, self centered people are.

          • Average_Joe56

            I’m not sure why you’d think that I am worried about the afterlife…I know where I’ll be.
            Selfish? The world is an oyster…pluck it….just don’t steal it from someone else.

          • KG

            Shellfish is not the same as selfish – or so you can understand Self-ish or only concerned with ones self.

            Are you so sure? What make you ‘know’ where you will be?

            I’m serious.

          • Average_Joe56

            “I’m serious.”
            Considering your first sentence, I highly doubt that.
            Faith, something that you apparently lack.

          • KG

            Yes, it seems as though I am a human being with a brain. I want real evidence of what I believe in. As a result of my dilemma, I am required to make a ‘leap of faith’ concerning things i cannot know for certain. And, yes, I do lack much ‘faith’ concerning religious matters due to a continual disappointment in people who claim ‘faith’. And, according to Jesus Christ, it doesn’t really matter.

          • Average_Joe56

            ” I am required to make a ‘leap of faith’ concerning things i cannot know for certain.”
            You are not required to do anything…it’s a personal choice…and requires personal accountability. Either you do…or you don’t. The choice is yours and yours alone. Your choice… affects nobody…. but you…I’d suggest making it wisely.

          • KG

            Wisdom is known of her daughters.

  • Bill

    Stars,
    You are dazzling us with your brilliance

    • Average_Joe56

      More like baffling us with his BS…just sayin’

      • Bill

        Hi Average Joe,
        A famous philosopher said something that applies to Stars; “He is not only a Dummy, he is a Big Dummy”

  • RL

    If TM were white, he would have called the police to report someone in a truck was following him and he believed he was in danger. The media made this about race only to begin reporting on their own report. In my eyes, Zimmerman had every right to defend himself. Everyone does.

  • jazboo

    those who disagree with Wayne’s remarks are upset because they know the truth hurts and won’t admit it.

    • nc

      jazboo, here are the Root remarks!
      “The reality is that white Americans are killed everyday by black Americans and the media NEVER reports it……….”
      The first case he mentions after that was the OJ case! I believe that was a case of a black charged with killing white people! AND THE MEDIA NEVER REPORTED IT????????????????????????
      WONDER WHERE HE LEARNED ABOUT IT????????????????
      Under the evidence I heard or lack there of I can understand a jury not convicting any one of murder on those facts so I don’t disagree with the verdict!

      ON THE OTHER HAND, a young man puts on his jacket walks to the store and buys a drink and a snack and starts back home in a legal manner and is confronted by a man with a gun! WHAT IS THE MAN WITH THE DRINK AND SNACK’S CRIME TO THIS POINT TO WARRANT THE MAN WITH THE GUN SHOOTING HIM??? WHAT WITNESS EVER GAVE EYE WITNESS OF EAR WITNESS TESTIMONY THAT MARTIN INSTIGATED THE CONFLICT THAT LEAD TO HIS BEING KILLED OTHER THAN THE DEFENDANT AND HIS SELF SERVING account??
      Could the white man have made the first move and lied about it???Do you KNOW he didn’t or just want to believe he didn’t??

      • JeffH

        “You know the definition of a racist, don’t you?”

        Anyone having an argument with an “ignorant liberal/progressive extremist, shill and troll”.

        Worth repeating!

        • WTS/JAY

          !!!!!!!!!! (-:

          • Jeff

            Can you sit, roll over, and beg? Good doggie!!

          • Average_Joe56

            Jeffro….
            Nope……show us how it’s done. I hear your experienced at all of the above. Now if you can learn to play dead…you’ll be the perfect pet for someone.

          • WTS/JAY

            Jeff, look, a picture of a gun, BOO! Lol!

        • KG

          Not all conservatives are racist, but all racists are conservative.

          • JeffH

            To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of ignorance. ~A. Bronson Alcott

          • KG

            I’d rather be ignorant than stupid.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            But you are both. So you do not have to choose.

          • John Woodbury

            KG you and the other liberal shrills disprove that everyday.

        • nc

          JeffH. it is worth repeating!
          Could the white man have made the first move and lied about it??/ Do you KNOW he didn’t or just want to believe he didn’t??
          Maybe you NEED to believe it was the black man’s fault and that is worse yet!!

          • JeffH

            nc, if there was ever any doubt that you were stupid, you just removed it.

            “You know the definition of a racist, don’t you?”

            Anyone having an argument with an “ignorant liberal/progressive extremist, shill and troll”.

            Bears repeating!

      • jazboo

        You missed the whole point. It doesn’t make sense to even reply to you. I suggest you read the article and listen to the video again.

  • FreedomFighter

    “What if Trayvon were white and George Zimmerman were black? Obama is right: Everything would have been different about the case.”
    It is not about race, it is about destruction of the 2nd amendment, destruction of the “Stand your Ground” laws, its about your GOD given right to defend yourself and your family. Blacks are a tool to be used to bring about this change, because they have been propagandized and prepared for the role for 50 plus years and can be easily manipulated in vast numbers by playing the race card. Far to many blacks have been filled with hate by propaganda by the media they cannot even see when they are being used.
    Divide and conquer or in this case divide and disarm, then conquer.
    Laus DeoSemper FI

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Right on target, FF.

    • Vis Fac

      Yes thet pesky little second amendment keeps getting in the way so they try and use smoke and mirrors to divert attention. In reality they cannot enforce any law that is contrary to the constitutional law guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. They keep telling us they can by enacting more laws yet they don’t enforce statutes on the books. What they are doing is amassing an army (police DHS and the UN) to assault in masse wearing body armor (we’ve all seen it on TV) the individual who they think might be armed and pose a threat (2nd and 4th Amendments usurped. They never go to arresst anyone without full body armor anymore which is nothing less than an armed incursion on private citizens. It has gone past the point of being out of control apathy has given the government the upper hand.

      • CommonSense4America

        The scary new kids on the block are the contract Armies. They are not controlled by the U.S.Government, but by companies. They have fought in Iraq, Afganistan, and New Orleans during Katrina. (They confiscated all guns even though it was unconstitutional) The USDoD has allocated $3 Billion this year to hire the companies for help. Blackrock and Executive Solutions are a couple of the names of the companies. I guess you could also call them Warlords or Cartels, but whats in a name anyway.
        If someone were to start a group of their own, they would probably be called terrorist or Patriots depending on which side you were on.

        • Vis Fac

          Contract armies are not new only the name was changed from mercenaries to contract armies. I
          would have a hard time believing Blackrock and executive solutions would turn on the American people. DHS and the UN would for sure. DHS is a little
          undermanned at present and then again I would think it would be difficult for them to turn on their own. I know in good conscience I would find it difficult to follow orders to lay siege on the American people Foreigners would have no problem. I think the sheer amount of firepower in civilians hands might give one pause to reflect if they indeed should follow orders if given the order. In any case the government has labeled me a terrorist because I believe in limited government and rule of law set forth in OUR Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
          Semper-Fi

          • CommonSense4America

            I know for a fact that guns were taken from citizens in N.O. during Katrina. I saw the part about contract companies on the military channel.

          • Vis Fac

            Not the same as firing on your own people. Liberals do not think they react Now we know what liberals do in a crisis the next time they try and take guns away will most likely be met with resistance. I have a lot of resistance at my disposal and am not afraid to use it. I’m well past my prime but still have the willingness to act if necessary
            Semper-Fi

          • CommonSense4America

            The mere fact that they would come and support a government that would knowingly go against and abuse the 2nd and 4th Amendments really upsets me. What is our country coming to. Like you, I’m too old to give a rats @$$,,,so that makes me a little more dangerous. Watch out for us old f-rts.

          • Vis Fac

            Yeah us old f-rts have a thing or two to teach the younger generation. They certainly haven’t learned anything useful in the liberal indoctrination camps they pass off as public schools.
            At an open house at one of my granddaughter’s “school” I cornered a teacher and point blank asked why schools pass off students to the next grade when they haven’t the comprehension skills. I was met with a blank stare so I repeated my question. It took some time to formulate an answer which completely floored me. I was told the schools have a state mandated program to follow which does not allow for any deviation from the curriculum.
            Mind you this “teacher” had the IQ of a hitching post and had trouble keeping on subject and often used double negatives.
            The district school board com[prised of extremely overpaid elected officials manages the program and allocates funds as necessary.
            Here in the PRC (People’s Republic of Commiefornia) have a legislature comprised on 85% one dimensional liberal morons that run everything and push the dumb down agenda liberals favor.
            Cursive writing, proper English History and Government are no longer taught in favor of LGBT sensitivity studies, how to report you parents if they spank you and how to tattle on someone they think is acting strange (hell the whole damned school system is strange.)

            This is why we are in deep-deep-deep s–t too many cerebrally necrotic morons are allowed to indoctrinate and brainwash our children!
            Semper-Fi

      • CommonSense4America

        The scary new kids on the block are the contract Armies. They are not controlled by the U.S.Government, but by companies. They have fought in Iraq, Afganistan, and New Orleans during Katrina. (They confiscated all guns even though it was unconstitutional) The USDoD has allocated $3 Billion this year to hire the companies for help. Blackrock and Executive Solutions are a couple of the names of the companies. I guess you could also call them Warlords or Cartels, but whats in a name anyway.
        If someone were to start a group of their own, they would probably be called terrorist or Patriots depending on which side you were on.

  • flashy

    If Trayvon Martin had been white, Zimmermann would have been convicted. Only the extremists are holding him out as an innocent babe in the woods. He was found not guilty of a crime….doesn’t mean he’s innocent

    • JeffH

      “You know the definition of a racist, don’t you?”

      Anyone having an argument with an “ignorant liberal/progressive extremist, shill and troll”.

    • JeffH

      Falsy being Falsy says ” He was found not guilty of a crime….doesn’t mean he’s innocent”.

      Not sorry to burst your bubble but YOU ARE WRONG again.

      not guilty: acquitted, cleared, exculpated, freed of wrongdoing, let go, let off, proved innocent, vindicated

    • Jeff

      You are absolutely correct and if I had any doubt, the nine “thumbs down” would have removed it. From under what rock do these vile racists crawl, anyway? At least Jacobite2 is “honest” about his racism.

      • Average_Joe56

        ” From under what rock do these vile racists crawl, anyway? ”
        Wow…you don’t even know where you came from? Check the lab report…since we know failed experiments don’t have a birth certificate.

  • tudorfan

    One question I would like answered is why isn’t the Hispanic community up in arms over the way George Zimmerman has been portrayed by the media. So far, I have heard nothing from them regarding the MSM’s treatment of Zimmerman and their failure to disclose all the facts of the case.

    • Jacobite2

      The Hispanic community is dedicated to the Dem Party because the Dem Party is dedicated to making non-whites dominant in the US. When you’re well on your way to taking over a large section of the USA, you can stand a few casualties. After all, when Big Chief O’bwana makes millions of illegal-alien Mexicans voting citizens of the US, the Mex will be in control of all the SW States. The blacks will be free to create one, two, fifty new all-black Detroits, funded by fleeing whites’ taxes. Whites are de jure and de facto second-class citizens today; they’ll be indentured servants tomorrow. Better start scoping out the real estate in Iceland.

      • hughcapet

        Agree, our family as a contingency plan are looking at “white” friendly countries if any exist.

        • Jacobite2

          Sorry to say, France is definitely out. Australia and New Zealand are isolated, so illegal immgration isn’t much of a factor, but, long being dumping grounds for Brit criminals, it’s no surprise that Left-wing politics is strong, and you can never trust anyplace where there’s a chance of Lefties taking over and importing a lumpen proletariate. Finland and the Baltics might work, along with Iceland. Hong Kong and Japan are possibilities, not because they welcome whites, but because they absolutely will not welcome non-white non-Asians at all. Those are the peoples you don’t want to live in the same country with.

          • Jeff

            I’m sure there’s a stinkhole somewhere that would welcome you. After all, the Nazis found homes in Brazil and Argentina after the war. But they actually had money. I guess you’ll have to loot some poor people’s bank accounts before you take asylum in Siberia. I don’t think there are too many Blacks there. Send a post card.

          • Jacobite2

            I wonder how you know what my bank balance is. Do you work for O’bwana’s IRS?

      • Jeff

        Thank you for not hiding your obvious racism. And guess what, Original Recipe? 6 thumbs up – just like you love to get. David Duke would probably get 12! Come on, Dave, you’re as good as those guys, aren’t you?

        • Jacobite2

          Get out your pre-80 dictionary. Racism is the belief that one race is superior, in some way, to all others. That races differ significantly from one another is the truth.

    • Nadzieja batki

      The Hispanic’s Leftism/Marxism trumps all. They willingly would sacrifice one of their own as long as the Leftists/Marxists agenda goes forward. What am I saying? Zimmerman is one of their own.

  • marylou

    Where is the Hispanic outrage?
    Why are tyou not protecting, speaking out for your own?
    Shame on you!
    Obama is not a friend of Hispanics..
    When push comes to shove, Obama will stand up for blacks, whether they are right or wrong, against all races.
    Count on it!

    • hughcapet

      He just finds black people “useful” in communist terms…

    • michiganminuteman

      Marylou, obummer will stand with muslims first, blacks second.

      • marylou

        Mich. Min. Man: You got that right…..and this is the president of our country!
        Our country is in big trouble!

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        Wrong. The blacks for him are just useful idiots.

        • Jeff

          As opposed to you useless idiots? Don’t you people ever get tired of spewing such vile, racist garbage? Would you say such stupid stuff at the grocery store? What if the clerk was either Black or looked like he may have read a book once? Would you still want to appear SO ignorant?

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Tell your Kriminal Illegal White-Negro to STOP racism!!!

          • Bob666

            Well hoof master,
            So you are a complete idiot and an Obama Girl???

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Nope. I prefer Mr. Putin to the Mentally PERVERT ignorant idiot and racist.

          • Bob666

            Well Pork-Fetish,
            Maybe you should go back to Mother -Russia and live under Putin, we won’t miss you here,

    • michiganminuteman

      Marylou, obummer will stand with muslims first, blacks second.

    • Ringgo1

      Which side would Obamao pick if it were blacks vs muslims?

      • JeffH

        Ringgo1, exactly! Muslims?

      • KG

        He would pick American – how does that ‘look’ like?

        • Ringgo1

          Are you trying to say something? Try again. Typical leftist spew… Answer the question.

          • KG

            Yes, I am saying something. Use your head for something more than a hat rack.

      • Jeff

        It is the dumbest question I’ve ever heard. Naturally, on this site, 3 thumbs up. So typical.

  • Motov

    Thanks for the new definition of “racist”, it certainly fits. And I’ll do my part by making sure all my friends are aware of it.

  • jackhammer69

    I prefer to ask, “What if Trayvon were female?”

    The fight between Trayvon and Zimmerman had far more to do with gender than race. If Trayvon was female, (s)he probably wouldn’t have been walking around in the dark, behind some buiildings, looking suspicious, in the rain, etc. and (s)he certainly wouldn’t have assaulted a “creepy ass cracker” that she thought was following her. If Trayvon were female, (s)he would have gotten to a well lit area, called 911, hurried home, yelled for help, etc.

    This is far more about angry young men who think violence is fun.

    The reason I believe Trayvon got what he deserved is because he reminds me a LOT of the kinds of people I used to hang out with when I was 17. Those guys were white, but they were just as thuggish as Trayvon.

    The common denominator is gender, not race.

  • Motov

    I personally hold the media responsible for the violence they generate when they report “news” like this. The press continually reports anything to promote their anti gun views. Where is the outrage of black groups placing a price on Zimmerman’s head? Instead we hear about another group attempting to enable Mr. Zimmerman’s right to bear arms so he can protect himself from these hate groups.
    I already know MLK jr. is rolling in his grave because of those idiots turning his “dream” into a nightmare.

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    Doc Sarvis says: “He was doing nothing wrong, walking home when Zimmerman started to stalk him AGAINST the recommendation of the 911 operator.”

    First of all, Doc “Get the facts first, and then you can distort them as you please.” ~ Mark Twain

    Doc, you did comply with the second part, but where is the First – “Get the FACTS first”?

    The FACT is that George Zimmerman did NOT “started to stalk” Tryavon “AGAINST the recommendation of the 911 operator.” He started before he made a 911 call, because Tryavon acted suspiciously. But after the 911 operator’s recommendation George STOPPED to follow THUG.

    Doc, I know you aren’t interested in the TRUTH like Dave, smilee, tesmith47, KG, NC, flashy, Karolyn, Jeffry, Stars-n-Stripes aka “compassionate and SMART” Satanic Moron “of the 13 generation out of 14”, and alike and NOTHING will change your Liberal opinion. But any way, watch this video, which examines
    the FACTS of the death of the “doing nothing wrong” thug Trayvon.
    http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&load=8689&mpid=56

    “You shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE.” – Jesus Christ

    • Doc Sarvis

      Your “journalism” video:
      Zimmerman did not have the injuries when he went into the police station.
      No mention of what Zimmerman called Trayvon or his abuse of women while bringing up unproven allegations about Treyvon.
      It does not matter who Trayvon was, he was NOT doing anything wrong.
      TRUTH.

      • http://personalliberty.com/ AnKa

        You once again proved that you aren’t interested in the TRUTH.
        Keep your delusional and paranoid liberal lies.

      • http://personalliberty.com/ AnKa

        “I am not ashamed to confess that I am ignorant of what I
        do not know.” – Marcus Tullius Cicero

    • Ron r

      Zimmerman could be heard getting out of his truck when the operator advised him not to follow doc. his job was to observe and report. Not stalk and shoot. Though I accept the verdict I do know that had this idiot not had a gun he would have done as he was trained to do. observe and report. instead he took a gun to a fist fight , got his ass beat and shot an unarmed teen. how can a grown ass armed man allow a teen / suspect to close the distance on him ?? and he wonders why he’s not a policeman.
      he had his day in court, and he was acquitted. Life moves on, because unless you have lost a child, you have no ideal what the parent (s) goes through.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Shut up! Why don’t you take your satanic backside and leave, traitor? You wouldn’t know the truth either. One day Jesus is going to walk up behind you and slap you upside your hard head. At least she has a source, so where is yours? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

      “A patriot must be a religious man.”

      Thomas Jefferson
      Signer of the Declaration of Independence
      3rd President of the U.S.
      Orthodox Christian

      • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Stars-n-Stripes

        The moderator has removed several of your posts in which you have posted as other people, used a name insulting others and that are in violation of the comment policy. Please read the comment policy at the end of the article. Continued violations will get you banned from posting.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

  • Alex

    Why continue giving race-baiters like W.A.R. and Ben Crystalnacht column inches?

    Had trayvon Martin followed and murdered Zimmy we all KNOW what would have happened—anyone who thinks otherwise believes a false narrative of History.

    • red neck

      alex… you are nothing more than a punk!

      • Karolyn

        Somebody is a “punk” because they tell the truth?

        • JeffH

          What truth?
          Were you there or did you forget that the evidence did not support the racist Alex conjecture?

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Mizz Karolyn still thinks that she has credibility on this board and she just wants to project her ignorant idiocy on everyone.

          • JeffH

            You(K) can be sincere and still be stupid.
            ~Charles F. Kettering

          • Nadzieja Batki

            So why are you on this site? You have a choice not to come here, read the article or read Alondra’s comments.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Psychopath, you forgot to change the name.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I suggest you leave traitor. You are a disgrace to this country and probably your parents as well. You, not we, have butted into the conversations here. Get lost and don’t come back. Alondra is wrong in one thing, you are not Bob666, but a fool named Kang that has failed in his attempt of duck and cover. Here is an article about Christian kids in Egypt, this also needs to be done here in our Christian nation.
            http://www.inspiremagazine.org.uk/Stories/International?storyaction=view&storyid=413
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “The fool hath said there is no God within his own heart.”
            Psalms 14:1
            Psalms 53:1

          • Bob666

            Sammy,

            For Real, “You are a disgrace to this country and probably your parents as well. You, not we, have butted into the conversations here. Get lost and don’t come back. Alondra is wrong in one thing, you are not Bob666, but a fool named Kang that has failed in his attempt of duck and cover”.

            Who is this Kang guy? he does seem to be your kryptonite?

          • Bob666

            Yo Stars,
            Chris Kang would appear to be little Sammies “Kryptonite”. My guess is; Chris Kang is yet another in a long list of people that he has alienated or pissed off.

            While I did find some of your work this morning humorous and on target, I hope that you realize why you should not have done that.

            Enjoy your evening as well.

          • Bob666

            Yo Stars,

            Karolyn is a nice lady and takes far more crap from people on this site than anyone should have to -many who have a complete lack of self- respect.

            Alondra has the class of a toothless streetwalker going through crack withdraws. The only credibility that
            Chitterlings has would be at the center for disease control or the Free Clinic.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Oh, you did change your name?
            So keep squeaking manurial fly.

          • Bob666

            and a pork chop here.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            keep squeaking manurial fly.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            You have the least credibility on the board Bob, so what are you talking about? Speaking of racism, here is an article showing muslims attacking a woman because she was a British infidel.
            http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/07/muslims-laugh-as-they-pour-acid-over-mother-walking-6-year-old-twins-home-from-school/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “There must be religion. When that ligament is torn, society is disjointed and its members perish. But the most important of all lessons is the denunciation of ruin to every state that rejects the precepts of religion.”
            Gouverneur Morris
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

          • Bob666

            Poor Geisha Boy,

            Did you read the real page 183 yet or do you want to continue the lie?

            Credibility, Sammy-Do you really have so much that you have a right to make such statements?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            No, actually, my kettle is painted woodland camoflage. Here is something your traitorous self needs to know.
            http://www.americanvision.org/8937/dont-forget-about-the-cross/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
            “The Bible is the best of all books, for it is the word of God and teaches us the way to be happy in this world and the next. Continue therefore to read it and to regulate your life by its precepts.”
            John Jay
            Devout Christian

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Have you looked in the mirror on that comment, traitor? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

        • JeffH

          What truth?
          Were you there or did you forget that the evidence did not support the racist Alex conjecture?

    • vicki

      IF Martin had followed and murdered Zimmerman the exact same thing would have happened had Zimmerman followed and murdered Martin.

      But since Zimmerman did not follow and murder Martin your scenario is without meaning.

  • Alex

    “Looking suspicious” in a general Caucasoid catch-all term for Black people.

    • KG

      Looking suspicious can get you killed or arrested – as well as NOT looking suspicious. Just being where you are makes you suspect. Doing something as well as doing nothing – as on the old Carol Burnett show – “…it don’t matter!”

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    BREAKING NEWS

    Russian PRESIDENT Vladimir Putin granted a year’s asylum in Russia.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/01/us-usa-security-snowden-russia-idUSBRE9700N120130801

    The Illegal RESIDENT is ‘EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED’ Russia granted Snowden asylum http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/08/white_house_extremely_disappoi.html

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      Yeah bobby, I know, your feelings for me are very strong. How about your “wife”?

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Bob Livingston, is Kang from Korea allowed to use other people’s names and dirty up this site because he has no nads to stand up like a man? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.

        • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear samurai,

          You write: “Bob Livingston, is Kang from Korea allowed to use other people’s names and dirty up this site because he has no nads to stand up like a man?” I do not understand your question. Please clarify.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

          • Bob666

            Bob,
            I believe that someone is using Samurai’s name without an account.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Bob666,

            Thanks. You are correct. I have learned this is the case since I made the post. The culprit has been warned.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • Bob666

            Your Welcome Bob,
            And thank you for showing great tolerance while providing an environment for all of us to exercise our First Amendment rights.

            I do believe that all of us push the limits of your rules here every day.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Sorry Bob, but the person I am refering to is named Chris Kang, though Chris is not his real name. I had the displeasure of working with him before and has been following me on this site since August 2010. He uses many different names, but I know who he is. You suspended H. Flashman for awhile for using multiple names, so why can’y he be suspended also? He just got through using my name and Alondras name on the two posts above yours. I thought that this would be against your comment policy. Sorry for dragging you into this, but I just thought I would ask you. Have a good weekend. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we aill be a nation gone under.”
            Ronald Reagan
            40th President of the U.S.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            MR. Livingston, under the Samurai name there is a comment with the link to the Gay pornographic pictures.

            Please take actions. Your Website is flooded by Mentally PERVERT and Sexually DEPRAVED sociopaths.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Whoever is using my name shows no maturity or intellect at all Kang. You are told not to do that again. Do I have to come to your place of work and make you stop? 무신론자 놈아! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.

  • David169

    Wayne, I believe you have missed the point with this article.
    Obama has had one plan since he first was elected; find some legitimate reason to declare “Martial Law”. He needs the permission of Congress to do that and Congress is now a GOP majority. Unless the Democrats get the house back this November Obama will be a former president in another 2 years. The first time he pulled this gun at the United States’ head was when it looked like Obamacare would not pass the House. I have never heard of another president threatening Congress with Martial Law if a bill didn’t pass, but he did. I believe the constant race baiting by his administration, the media and the usual race baiters getting far more media attention than their comments deserve are all for one purpose. To create enough racial hatred and division in this country that a sustained racial insurrection is fomented so he can declare “Martial Law”. I believe all the race baiting has failed because most people in this country are aware of the situation and regard the likes of Sharpton and Jackson as nut bags and tune them out at their first word. Obama has failed to realize that the American people know they can just wait him out.

    • ron r

      Yeah, over 40 presidents elected and the lone black guy wants life time rule.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        He does. Here is an article showing how Barry Soetoro’s name just disappeared from the Washington, D.C. area voting roster. Ooops! He’s not supposed to be on that list.
        http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/07/barry-soetoro-aka-barack-obama-disappears-from-dc-voter-registration-site-following-exposure-by-bloggers/
        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
        “Religion is the only solid basis of good morals; therefore education should teach the precepts of religion, and the duties of man towards God.”
        Gouverneur Morris
        Founding father
        Devout Christian

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          No response possible due to lack of intellectual content by the traitor stars and stripes. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

  • Steven Cornette

    Charleston SC June 2012 Marty Lions 17yr old white KID murdered while unarmed by 30yr old black male!!!!! Where is the riots and outrage! Where is our Racist chief in liar on the white kid murdered by the black man?????!

  • Nadzieja Batki

    His parents are not letting this go, they are sopping up the attention from all the Leftist group and they will play this up as long as the Leftists use them. O and the race baiters will squeeze more miles out of Martin death.

  • Karolyn

    Hispanics are white! (unless they are mixed race).

    • John Woodbury

      KK, I double dog dare you to go to 4th ward in Houston and say that. BTW they are mixture of Spanish and Native populations. So if the great leader is Black then they are not white.

    • KG

      I thought they were ‘American’. How does that look like?

  • MG

    If Trayvon were white? He’d look just like me … giggle giggle

  • Marshall Watson

    “You know the definition of a racist, don’t you? Anyone winning an argument with a liberal.” This is the last statement of this editorial, and it says everything. That’s why the liberal media won’t call Obama a racist, he could never be one by this definition because he would never argue with another liberal, unless heaven forbid, some poor liberal had an epiphany about one of his phony scandals and saw it for what it and he really is. A fraud, liar, cheat, thief, egomaniac, would be dictator.

  • WTS/JAY

    In an extraordinary column last week, Russia’s de facto government press arm declared that the era of “Miss American Pie” was over in the U.S. Citing Obama’s reelection, Pravda stated that the “Communists have won in America…”

    Why? Because the US is “an illiterate society” that continues to buy off on Obama’s “lies of less taxes while he raises them.” The US educational system is also held responsible, with Pravda stating that it was “conquered by the Communists long ago and history was revised thus paving the way for their Communist presidents.”

    As you might have gathered, Pravda’s hit on Obama as a communist isn’t a glancing blow. It seems to be the overriding theme of the article:

    He is a Communist without question promoting the Communist Manifesto without calling it so. How shrewd he is in America. His cult of personality mesmerizes those who cannot go beyond their ignorance. They will continue to follow him like those fools who still praise Lenin and Stalin in Russia. Obama’s fools and Stalin’s fools share the same drink of illusion.

    http://joemiller.us/2012/11/russias-pravda-declares-communism-won-in-american-with-obama-us-suffering-has-only-begun/#ixzz2akpVcPn0

  • WTS/JAY

    In an extraordinary column last week, Russia’s de facto government press arm declared that the era of “Miss American Pie” was over in the U.S. Citing Obama’s reelection, Pravda stated that the “Communists have won in America…”

    Why? Because the US is “an illiterate society” that continues to buy off on Obama’s “lies of less taxes while he raises them.” The US educational system is also held responsible, with Pravda stating that it was “conquered by the Communists long ago and history was revised thus paving the way for their Communist presidents.”

    As you might have gathered, Pravda’s hit on Obama as a communist isn’t a glancing blow. It seems to be the overriding theme of the article:

    He is a Communist without question promoting the Communist Manifesto without calling it so. How shrewd he is in America. His cult of personality mesmerizes those who cannot go beyond their ignorance. They will continue to follow him like those fools who still praise Lenin and Stalin in Russia. Obama’s fools and Stalin’s fools share the same drink of illusion.

    http://joemiller.us/2012/11/russias-pravda-declares-communism-won-in-american-with-obama-us-suffering-has-only-begun/#ixzz2akpVcPn0

  • coloradobear

    Seems like Obama is the most racist President we have ever had. Instead of bringing unity to our nation with black white relations, he has workded overtime to create more hate and separtion between us all. Today, in the news, a white, teen aged girl was attacked and stabbed eleven times just a few feet from her front door by a black man wearing a hoodie. All she was doing was walking home from her job at McDonalds. She wasn’t walking through a gated neighborhood with skittles and a pop and she was not hiding waiting to jump anybody like Treyvon was. I haven’t heard a single word from Obama about this “HATE” crime and you can bet your sweet ass you won’t.

  • coloradobear

    Seems like Obama is the most racist President we have ever had. Instead of bringing unity to our nation with black white relations, he has workded overtime to create more hate and separtion between us all. Today, in the news, a white, teen aged girl was attacked and stabbed eleven times just a few feet from her front door by a black man wearing a hoodie. All she was doing was walking home from her job at McDonalds. She wasn’t walking through a gated neighborhood with skittles and a pop and she was not hiding waiting to jump anybody like Treyvon was. I haven’t heard a single word from Obama about this “HATE” crime and you can bet your sweet ass you won’t.

  • $3251463
    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Nice post, awkingsley.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Nice post, awkingsley.

    • Ron r

      87 % of white crime is white on white. There were more whites that died from drowning than there was black on white killings.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Care to cite a source to back this up? Here is an article that tells how the secularists are lying about our Constitution and our Christian founding.
        http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/07/secularist-lies-about-religion-and-the-constitution/
        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
        “We have appointed a continental fast. Millions will be upon their knees at once before their Great Creator, imploring His forgiveness and blessing – His smiles on American Councils and arms.”
        John Adams
        Devout Christian
        Not a deist

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Considering you are a liar and cannot prove me wrong, I have little to worry about with you. Since he believed Jesus was the Son of God, believed in God, and believed in organized religion, he could not be a deist, but he was a Christian. How many times do your ilk have to be spanked before you stop with your lies, rhetoric, innuendo, and hate? Here is an article about your “messiah.”
          http://www.minutemannews.com/2013/07/terrifying-obama-regime-unveils-behavior-modification-program-to-nudge-americans/
          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 우해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
          “Every member of the State ought diligently to read and to study the Constitution of his country. By knowing their rights, they will sooner perceive when they are violated and be the better prepared to defend and assert them.”
          John Jay
          Devout Christian

  • $3251463
  • An Old Seabee

    With obama it is never about race; he uses the race card to stir up the sh!t. DIVIDE AND CONQUER! While he is stiring the stuff he can shovel the sh!t on the ALL OF US at double time, and he seems to never miss an opportunity to stir!?!

  • An Old Seabee

    With obama it is never about race; he uses the race card to stir up the sh!t. DIVIDE AND CONQUER! While he is stiring the stuff he can shovel the sh!t on the ALL OF US at double time, and he seems to never miss an opportunity to stir!?!

  • WTS/JAY

    Karolyn: Hispanics are white! (unless they are mixed race).

    The Obama Administration released this statement: “‘Hispanic’ is an ethnicity, not a race. While the U.S. government first made this distinction in 1980, many Latinos continued to use the “some other race” box to establish a Hispanic identity. So on the 2010 census forms we specifically instructed Latinos that Hispanic origins are not races and to select a recognized category such as white or black.”

    So Hispanics are now forced to decide between white or black.

    Many are choosing “white.”

    To go further, the Obama Administration says that it is hard to truly define what “white” is. “There are many shades of white, and there are many shades of black. And there are grays and that makes it hard to say if someone is really “white” or not,” Jay Carney, the White House Press Secretary, reportedly said.

    Some Italian-Americans checked the “black” box on the 2010 census. “I’m darker than Obama. I think that qualifies me as black,” said Big Jimmy Forsatella of Bayonne.

    Meanwhile, Asians are also checking “white” box. Native Americans are checking the “black” box. “There is no yellow or green or purple skin pigment,” Jay Carney reportedly told reporters. “White is not white. And black is not black.”

    Carney went to say that even declaring yourself as “white” or “black” can be discriminatory. SO, the Obama Administration said that it will now be up to the individual to declare if they are “white” or “black”. “Skin color is only one way to tell if you are black or white,” said Vice President Joe Biden. “You could be white on the outside and black on the inside. Or black on the outside and white on the inside.”

    Biden then declared that he considers himself “black.”

    So, there you go. Black and white is no longer black and white. And, officially now, all Hispanics are white!!

    Ay caramba!

    source: http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/38964/hispanics-are-now-officially-white/

    • Louis Lemieux

      Karolyn, interesting! I don’t think I know anyone who is really white, “white” people all have a tinge of pink color to their skin.

      • independent thinker

        You must not get out much. I have known a few people who were so white they (to use the punch line from an old joke) looked like they were strained through a sheet. I have also been aquainted with a few negros who were so black they looked like they were made out of coal dust. Granted both are the exception but they do occur.

        • Louis Lemieux

          The exception that proves the rule: “exceptio probat regulam in casibus non exceptis.” It has nothing much to do with me not going out much.

    • Karolyn

      I agree. We are essentially all the same anyway. Wish I could have gotten to the “Race: Are We So Different?” exhibit. Sounds like a fascinating project.

  • WTS/JAY

    FDA Approves First GMO Flu Vaccine Containing Reprogrammed Insect Virus…

    A new vaccine for influenza has hit the market, and it is the first ever to contain genetically-modified (GM) proteins derived from insect cells. According to reports, the U.S.Food and Drug Administration(FDA) recently approved the vaccine, known as Flublok, which contains recombinant DNA technology and an insect virus known as baculovirus that is purported to help facilitate the more rapid production of vaccines.

    According to Flublok’s package insert, the vaccine is trivalent, which means it contains GM proteins from three different flu strains. The vaccine’s manufacturer, Protein Sciences Corporation (PSC), explains that Flublok is produced by extracting cells from the fall armyworm, a type of caterpillar, and genetically altering them to produce large amounts of hemagglutinin, a flu virus protein that enables the flu virus itself to enter the body quickly.

    So rather than have to produce vaccines the “traditional” way using egg cultures, vaccine manufacturers will now have the ability to rapidly produce large batches of flu virus protein using GMOs, which is sure to increase profits for the vaccine industry. But it is also sure to lead to all sorts of serious side effects, including the deadly nerve disease Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GSB), which is listed on the shot as a potential side effect…

    Source: http://www.getholistichealth.com/35342/fda-approves-first-gmo-flu-vaccine-containing-reprogrammed-insect-virus/

  • Louis Lemieux

    In order to know if I am a racist or not, or to see the degree of racism that’s in me, I need to understand what the word really means. How else can I improve myself and become a better person?
    Racism is to consider someone else inferior to me because he has a different cultural background or he is of a different ethnicity.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      English lessons from Louis — Priceless.

      • Louis Lemieux

        @TheOriginalDaveH. If your idea of racism differs from mine, I would like to hear it.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Did I say anything about that?

          • Louis Lemieux

            I’m just asking a favor of you. If your idea of racism differs from mine, I would like to hear it.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I made that comment, Louis, because I think you are an ignoramus, and it is comical to me that you would be trying to school other people in English.
            Happy now?

          • WTS/JAY

            He asked for it, and he got it!

          • Louis Lemieux

            Ignoramus is a Latin word that means ” we do not know”. It must include you too

          • WTS/JAY

            So now you know what “racism” and “ignoramus” mean. Good for you, Louis! (-:

          • Louis Lemieux

            Actually I’ve known that for quite many years now. Racism is one thing but at times I can’t stop from being sexist: I’ll more readily help a lady than I will a man ⵙⵙ

          • WTS/JAY

            That’s very commendable of you, Louis. You’re a good lad!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            He may help a lady and not a man, but that still hasn’t improved his personal life. :-) Speaking of racism, here is an article about a reporter from MSNBC used racism during air time.
            http://www.politichicks.tv/column/classless-commentator-perpetuates-racism/
            Here is one describing the purpose of racial division.
            http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/07/the-purposed-racial-division-in-america/
            Keep up the good fight fellow patriots. We are winning and that is why their postings are getting more and more personal. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! ㅏ나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “It appears to me the eternal Son of God is operating powerfully against the British Nation.”
            John Adams
            Devout Christian
            Believes Jesus is the Christ, not a deist.

          • Louis Lemieux

            I did not say I will not help a man but that it is easier for me to help a lady. If you truly believe in God and country, you should make a better effort at not distorting what your countrymen have to say.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            You did say that you would more readily help a lady than a man. This sounds like what I had posted to you. You also said that you were sexist. How is that? You mean you would do things with women rather than with men? That is what is sounded like to me. Here is an article showing how a big time liberal, Howard Dean, supports Sarah Palin about death panels in Obama bin Laden Care.
            http://www.foxnewsinsider.com/2013/07/30/howard-dean-op-ed-supports-sarah-palins-obamacare-death-panels-claim
            Here is one where she tells how she was told not to tell the truth about Obama bin Laden.
            http://www.foxnewsinsider.com/2013/07/26/sarah-palin-we-weren%E2%80%99t-allowed-to-tell-truth-about-obama-2008-campaign-and-now-we-have
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the priviledge and interest of our Christian Nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.”
            John Jay
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

          • Louis Lemieux

            You say:

            “You did say that you would more readily help a lady than a man. This sounds like what I had posted to you.”

            Really? This is what you also said: “He may help a lady and not a man,”

          • Louis Lemieux

            You really think I didn’t know what your intentions were! I know you enough for that!

        • Nadzieja Batki

          No you wouldn’t like to hear it because you have heard it and read it countless times. You are a manipulating time waster.

          • WTS/JAY

            You forgot; a miscreant, a scoundrel and a buffoon! (-:

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    Another “compassionate” Liberal Progressive outed.

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      DaveH, the “compassionate” Stars-n-Stripes is no other then evil man “Yo bob666″

      • Average_Joe56

        Stop trying to be someone your not……

      • Alondra

        you are totally insane to ask me to believe satan’s slave.

      • http://personalliberty.com/ AnKa

        And WHY she has to believe a LIAR?

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    Wow, it just keeps coming.

  • WTS/JAY

    GAY ATHLETES COULD BE PROSECUTED AT 2014 WINTER OLYMPICS

    In Russia it is now illegal to even speak about homosexuality around minors, much less openly display gay pride. Technically the ban is against “propaganda of nontraditional sexual relations” around minors, but the implication for openly gay individuals is clear. Public displays of affection by gays, including holding hands or displaying symbols like a rainbow flag, are now banned. Violators face steep fines and jail time; foreigners face similar penalties plus deportation. So what will happen to openly gay athletes and fans, as well as any vocal supporters or protestors, when Russia hosts the Winter Olympics next year in Sochi? This week, comments by a lawmaker from St. Petersburg set off a firestorm online when he said that fans and athletes would not be immune from prosecution during the games…

    Source: http://abcnews.go.com/International/russian-lawmaker-suggests-gay-athletes-prosecuted-2014-winter/story?id=19829868

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Good! We need the olympics to set certain standards, being gay is not one of those standards. Here is something else dealing with Russia.
      http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/01/snowdew-reportedly-leaves-moscow-airport-enters-russia-on-refugee-status/
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “The general principles on which the Fathers achieved independence, were the general principles of Christianity.”
      John Adams
      Devout Christian
      Not a deist

      • Jeff

        Maybe Putin will hire you to go under cover and report on the gays. Send some innocent people to the gulag, but do it in the name of Jesus!

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          No response due to lack of intellectual content by Jeff. Also, why profane the name of Jesus? Shows no moral character. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

          • Jeff

            You profane the name of Jesus by your “belief” pretense while your posts indicate you believe in nothing he did. “Turn the other cheek” turns into “blow him away” and “feed the hungry” becomes “get a job.” The hypocrisy is legendary.

      • Jeff

        From where do you get this utter b.s.? Adams was a Unitarian, hardly a religion anyone would refer to as “devout.”

        Religious Affiliation: Unitarian

        Summary of Religious Views:
        Adams was raised a Congregationalist, but ultimately rejected many fundamental doctrines of conventional Christianity, such as the Trinity and the divinity of Jesus, becoming a Unitarian. In his youth, Adams’ father urged him to become a minister, but Adams refused, considering the practice of law to be a more noble calling. Although he once referred to himself as a “church going animal,” Adams’ view of religion overall was rather ambivalent: He recognized the abuses, large and small, that religious belief lends itself to, but he also believed that religion could be a force for good in individual lives and in society at large. His extensive reading (especially in the classics), led him to believe that this view applied not only to Christianity, but to all religions.

        Adams was aware of (and wary of) the risks, such as persecution of minorities and the temptation to wage holy wars, that an established religion poses. Nonetheless, he believed that religion, by uniting and morally guiding the people, had a role in public life.

        In other words, if he were around today, you’d call him the same idiotic names you call everyone who doesn’t believe exactly what you do.

        • Bob666

          Now Jeff,
          You know that In Samurai land, anyone who ever did anything positive was a devout christian and anyone who was bad was a democrat.

          • vicki

            Ad hominem

          • Ben Dover

            Ad hominem is not applicable in this instance.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Mind your own business and stop butting into conversations that are none of your own business. BTW, here is an article about you and your ilk.
            http://www.clashdaily.com/2013/07/the-pope-the-gay-lobby-and-how-the-media-got-it-wrong/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “First enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself.”
            James Madison

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Look who is talking?!? Miserable Imbecile !!!

            Samurai did step on your tail, which is growing from your Libtardic A$$ and you are spinning in your odium.

            How pathetic you are, left-winger.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            You are free to leave any time you wish. Don’t let the door hit you on the backside in the way out. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Personal attack and argument to ridicule. I see you still haven’t grow up yet, have you Bob? Here are 2 articles about Obama bin Laden and his administration.
            http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/07/obama-appeases-taliban-releases-5-high-profile-gitmo-detainees/
            http://www.theblacksphere.net/2013/07/why-obama-wont-allow-trayvon-martin-civil-lawsuit/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “We’ve staked our future on our ability to follow the Ten Commandments with all of our heart.”
            James Madison

          • Boboon

            Shut you up, ego-centric PSYCOPATH

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Swearing, personal attack, and argument to ridicule. When will you ever grow up little boy? That’s why your girlfriend left you, because size does matter. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.

          • KG

            I’m still waiting for those verses that say Jesus liked religious people, like yourself. Or people who think they are righteous.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          If you had looked up the history of the Unitarian Church, you would know that it believed a lot differently in 1790 than it does today. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

          • Jeff

            Regardless, Adams was no Jesus Freak. Adams, like most of the founders, spoke in the language of the time and in formal settings may have referred to “the year of our Lord,” but he and they were not devout Christians and certainly not in your meaning of the term.

  • WTS/JAY

    Why Are The Chinese Gobbling Up Real Estate And Businesses In Detroit?

    Something very strange is happening to Detroit. Once upon a time, it was the center of American manufacturing and it had the highest per capita income in the United States. But now the city is dying and the Chinese are moving in to pick up the pieces. Lured by news stories that proclaim that you can buy homes in Detroit for as little as one dollar, Chinese investors are eagerly gobbling up properties. In some cases, this is happening dozens of properties at a time. Not only that, according to the New York Times “dozes of companies from China” are investing in businesses and establishing a presence in the Detroit area. If this continues, will Detroit eventually become a city that is heavily dominated by China?

    source: http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/why-are-the-chinese-gobbling-up-real-estate-and-businesses-in-detroit

    • John Woodbury

      Not the brightest bulb today are you Jay? The simple answer is because they can. You may not like it, but they can. Why don’t you buy some properties, and get your pals to buy some as well. This is the American way, passing laws and growing government is not the solution, it is the problem.

      • WTS/JAY

        Assume much, John? Who said anything about passing laws and growing government?

      • WTS/JAY

        John: The simple answer is because they can. You may not like it, but they can. Why don’t you buy some properties, and get your pals to buy some as well. This is the American way…

        This is the American way, John? Selling huge parcels of our land and cities to foreigners who own a substantial portion of our debt, the American way? What kind of a fool are you, John? Would that be, a liberal-progressive fool?

        • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

          Jay, why are you referring to him “John”?
          He is Yo Moron666 “of the 13 generation out of 14”

          • Bob666

            and a pork chop there.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Don’t worry Bob. I got your back on this one. I know the person in question and you are not him. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “The internal effects of a mutable policy poisons the blessings of liberty itself”
            James Madison

          • Bob666

            Thanks Sammy,
            We have have our differences, but I would never do something like that to you and I don’t believe that you would do anything like that to me or anyone else.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            No problem Bob. I know the person in question and he posts a lot differently than you do. I couldn’t stand by and have him burn another American on this site. Its against the ways I was raised and trained. This Kang person, you asked about, is the one writing these non-intelligent posts. Bob Livingston has warned him and warned him before about using multiple names, along with insulting others by using other people’s names/handles. I even had the unfortunate luck to work with the person in question. All I have to say is, watch your back at all times, when it comes to this person. OK Bob? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Sorry Alondra, but John is a different person. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • WTS/JAY

            No, i don’t think so, Alondra. I think i was speaking to Dave, imo. (-:

  • WTS/JAY

    North Carolina Ends Teacher Tenure, Teachers Will Now Have to Be Good at Their Jobs to Keep Them

    That teachers get lifetime tenure, jobs for life, anywhere, is absolutely criminal. I’m not being over the top. It is a crime against taxpayers and students. No one should get paid for just showing up.

    I was lucky enough to know a number of great teachers going through school. CE Johnson, Jr. was probably my favorite. He was brilliant and respectful and professional. He was a great government teacher. But even he didn’t deserve lifetime tenure. Not that he would ever need to worry, which is the point.

    But for every CE Johnson, Jr., I probably had 5 teachers who were clearly just going through the motions. This was their paycheck and they were counting down the years until their pension kicked in. And I was in a good school district. I can just imagine what New York City schools are like.

    My old Yugoslavian astronomy professor once said that the downfall of American public education was when teachers gave up their position as “professionals” and threw in in their lot with the unions. He always made the point that Einstein couldn’t teach physics in the USA but that many people who didn’t really know physics did, and could never be fired.

    (From Reason.com)

    Under the new plan, top performers will be offered four year contracts, while others will be on one or two year contracts.

    It’s not exactly at-will employment—the kind of jobs that most of us have, in which both parties can choose to end the period of employment whenever they like, without advance warning—but it’s a heckuva lot closer.

    Naturally, local union officials are flipping out: http://www.pewstates.org/projects/stateline/headlines/north-carolina-ends-teacher-tenure-85899493655

    • John Woodbury

      Jay, this plan will do nothing to improve teaching. There are few plans that do that. This is the teacher dance faster plan. The only way schools improve with current students is smaller class size and student motivation. Of course student motivation is almost non-existent in inner-city schools. So other than driving move people out of the teaching profession, what have you done? Oh, BTW, if you want to see liberal policies at work see your local school.

      • WTS/JAY

        John: Jay, this plan will do nothing to improve teaching.

        A bit too early to tell, don’t you think? Let’s just wait and see. How about that, John?

        John: There are few plans that do that.

        Care to elaborate?

        John: This is the teacher dance faster plan.

        Is that another way of saying; prove that you can actually teach?

        John: The only way schools improve with current students is smaller class size and student motivation.

        Right, so let’s throw more billions into the bloated, and ineffective-system. Yeah, that will fix the problem. I’m sure the unionists would love you, John!

        John: Of course student motivation is almost non-existent in inner-city schools.

        And what could be the reason for that, John? Could it be that most unionized-teachers lack motivation?

        John: So other than driving move people out of the teaching profession, what have you done?

        The responsible thing, John. I’m home-schooling my children and encouraging other parents to do the same. For it seems to me the proper thing to do. After all, why lay all that heavy burden on unionized-teachers? The poor little darlings have enough stress to deal with; you know, planning for their retirement!

        John: Oh, BTW, if you want to see liberal policies at work see your local school.

        I see them at work in your comments, so i need not visit your local school, Johnny! (-:

    • Jeff

      Do you know for a fact Einstein “couldn’t” teach physics? And at what grade level? In the lower grades, knowing how to reach kids is far more important than subject matter knowledge. By high school that is reversed and I believe many school districts have teachers “borrowed” from the corporate world (engineers, economists) who don’t generally have teaching credentials.
      I believe having Einstein for high school physics could be considered overkill. He had a position at Princeton where I’m sure he didn’t spend a lot of time teaching freshmen.

  • Nadzieja Batki

    Yes, we have seen the “love” Martin’s parents had for him, letting him become a thug. They had the years between his birth and his death to make a decent human being out of him, they chose not to.

  • Dr Moon

    Obama is a racists plain and simple. But were giving him too much credit by thinking he’s trying to take attention off his scandals, he doesn’t care. Obama is doing this to divide Americans, cause racial strife, eventually cause a race war so he can declare martial law, take our guns and throw all White Christians in prison. Obama’s goal is not to turn America into some liberal utopia, his goal is to destroy America and make all Americans suffer. That is the reason for every action he takes, to destroy us and let Muslims take over. Obama is the Anti-Christ, when will people start to wake up?

    • WTS/JAY

      Satan says: Why are you so paranoid? Why do you believe is such absurd BS?

      I don’t think your “moniker” is helping, dumb dumb! LOL!!!

      Satan; ORIGIN Old English , via late Latin and Greek from Hebrew śāṭān, literally ‘Adversary,’ from śāṭan ‘Plot Against’.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      I don’t know about being the Anti-Christ, but he is very satanic. Is he racist? Yes. Is he promoting racism indirectly? Yes. He is trying to destroy our Constitution, nation, and Christian founding, and has no compassion or patriotism in him at all. The man is a fraud at everything. Even Michelle Obama turned in her license to practice law, so she wouldn’t be charged for defrauding her clients. Here is an article that tells of a man that can squelch Obama bin Laden.
      http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/my-favorite-communist-spy-chief/
      Here is one about the DOJ and Eric “Dead Agent” Holder forcing a school to let a girl use the boys bathroom. Don’t these morons have anything else better to do?
      http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/11904/doj-finally-goes-insane-uses-federal-power-to-force-school-to-allow-girl-to-use-boys-bathroom/
      Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. Do not forget that many of these morons are the 5th columners on this site. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “I have examined all religions, and the result is that the Bible is the best book in the world.”
      John Adams
      The Works of John Adams, Vol. X, p. 85.
      Letter to Thomas Jefferson December 25, 1813
      Founding father
      2nd President of the U.S.
      Devout Christian

      • Jeff

        Wow. Faque Samurai has run into someone even nuttier than himself. Faque is not sure Obama is the anti-Christ while Dr. Moon is certain. In the wingnut world, that’s defined as the difference between a liberal and a conservative.

        • vicki

          Ad hominem

          • Jeff

            Apparently, Ms. Vicki doesn’t think it’s “nutty” to debate whether Obama is, or just may be, the anti-Christ. Funny how I never see your red pencil marks following any of the ludicrous posts one finds on these blogs.

          • vicki

            Ad hominem != ludicrous.

          • Ben Dover

            ludicrous=vicki !

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Are you back again? Just go home traitor. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “By conveying the Bible to people, we certainly do to them a most interesting act of kindness. We thereby enable them to learn that man was originally created and placed in a state of happiness, but, becoming disobedient, became subjected to the degradation and evils which he and his posterity have since experienced. The Bible will also inform them that our gracious Creator has provided for us a Redeemer in whom all the nations of the earth should be blessed – that this Redeemer has made atonement ‘for the sins of the world,’ and thereby reconciling the Divine justice with the Divine mercy, has opened a way for our redemption and salvation; and that these inestimable benefits are of the free gift and grace of God, not of our deserving, nor in our power to deserve the Bible will also encourage them with many explicit and consoling assurances of the Divine mercy to our fallen race, and with repeated invitations to accept the offers of pardon and reconciliation. They, therefore, who enlist in His service, have the highest encouragement to fulfill the duties assigned to their respective stations; for most certain it is, that those of His followers who participate in His conquests will also participate in the transcendent glories and blessings of His Triumph.”
            John Jay
            Devout Christian

        • securityman

          jeff, still an idiot on any subject that comes up, I see . you need to get a life that doesn’t include bending over for obummer

          • Jeff

            Don’t you have a beat to walk? Maybe you’ll get to hassle some Black kids today.

          • paintinc56

            I believe it was DEMOCRATS who fought desegregation, the civil rights act & founded the K K K. It was also LEFTISTS who called Allen West, Herman Cain, Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas & every other black conservative that had the audacity to leave the liberal plantation, NI GG ERS, HOUSE NI GG ERS, UNCLE TOM’S & SLAVES. I believe it was at a Code Pink cracks rally that they were carrying signs & chanting for the hanging/lynching of Thomas & his white wife.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          The personal attack and arguement to ridicule. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
          “Respect your country always. Respect your government, when they earn it.”
          Samuel Clemons

        • paintinc56

          Go bow down & worship king hopenchange.

          Fascism,

          a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

          SPOT ON your little dictator!

      • KG

        I’m still waiting for those verses where Jesus said he liked Religious people.

        • paintinc56

          Read the Bible, troll, & figure it out for yourself.

      • frederik_h

        Oh Jeez, here we have that fascist Samurai once again. He’s not only a staunch patriot and a higly competent politician, but a very gifted theologian just as well. Wow. thanx for your great wisdom, “Whiniot”!!!

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          The personal attack, argument to ridicule, and changing of the name you use. SSDD? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

        • paintinc56

          You do realize that Hitler was a leftist like you, right?

          Fascism,
          a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
          SPOT ON OBAMAO!

          • KG

            Hitler was NOT a ‘leftist’. BTW, where does the terms ‘left’ and ‘right’ for political leanings come from? In France, where the terms originated, the Left had been called “the party of movement” and the Right “the party of order. The intermediate stance is called centrism and a person with such a position is a moderate. Hitler was definitely a “law and order” type. In Germany of his day, he would have been called what we call ‘patriots’. As well as his SA organization – a paramilitary organization similar to the American militia movement. He being backed by the wealthier classes, as well as his former military experience as a decorated war hero, put him plainly into the modern American conservative class – or Fascist Party of America or the American Taliban.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      OMG! I see another troll has come to the site. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
      “May that Being who is supreme over all, the Patron of Order, the Fountain of Justice, and the Protector in all ages of the world of virtuous liberty, continue His blessings upon this nation.”
      John Adams
      Devout Christian

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        Samurai, the “satan” is one of the Yo Moron000 “of the 13 generation out of 14” names.

        Be aware that he posts on this Website under the names
        Stars-n-Stripes
        Justsomeguy151
        Hall of the Mountain King
        satan (which on Hebrew means “accuser”, “deceiver”, “adversary”, and “the opposer” to God’s TRUTH; devil on Greek)
        and even under your name.

        P.S. Samurai, you have to report to Mr. Levingston that the satan’s operative bob666 is using your name.

        • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Alondra,

          You write: “Samurai, you have to report to Mr. Levingston (sic) that the satan’s operative bob666 is using your name.” The offending commenter is not the user Bob666. The offending commenter has been cautioned about his serial violations of the comment policy.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Can you suspend him like you did Flashman?

          • Stars-n-Stripes

            “Mommy, he’s being mean to me. Make him stop!”
            Oh please. Stop being a cowardly crybaby!

        • Bob666

          Alondra,
          I was raised by good Christian parents who required me to apologize when I was wrong because I was taught that it takes a big man to admit fault as It is a reinforcement of both character and ethical behavior.

          I shall not expect an apology from you-you lack those qualities.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            WOW, just listen this son of the “good Christian parents” who is preaching civility”?!!!?

            Tell about your “character” and “ethical behavior” to your “christian wife” or at least to Karolyn.

            I am just wondering: How many times you will change your “biography”???

            You are soooooooo pitiful.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Oh, I forgot to ask you, pathetic liberal imbecile what I have to do.

            My life is blessed by Each blessed day.

            But you keep talking your diarrheic nonsense, delusional PSYCHOPATH

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Yes, I am really blessed with the God’s gift of Knowledge and Wisdom.

            If you do NOT like my posts, there is a SIMPLE and QUICK solution – STOP reading them.

            If you will keep reading my comments, then do NOT complain. I just can’t understand: WHY Liberals are so STUPID?

            Oh, dear, you are free “imagine” whatever you want.
            I am not like you living in an imaginable world. I am living in a REAL world.

            Conclusion: If you are reading my comments, so you like them, but as any Liberal you are denying the TRUTH.

            P.S. Please do me a favor: STOP read my comments. I JUST do not want to spend my priceless time on your stupidity.

            Sorry for disappointment.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ AnKa

            Keep reading.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            So WHY are you reading my posts?
            And WHY YOUR post above was deleted?
            Dupe, please do NOT preach civility? You are HYPOCRITE.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Sorry Alondra, but the one using our names is not Bob666. He isn’t using thos other names either. Bob666 just uses 1 name, as far as I know. The person in question has had it in for me since August 2010. I had the unfortunate luck of working with him, so now he follows me around to many threads on this site. He also goes by JON, smilee, truesoy, and many others. I can handle his megalomaniacal backside, but do not let him distract you from fighting the good fight. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
          “Condescend, merciful father, to grant as far as proper these imperfect petitions, to accept these inadequate thanksgivings, and to pardon whatever of sin hath mingled in them for the sake of Jesus Christ, our blessed Lord and Savior, unto Whom, with Thee, and the blessed Spirit, ever one God, be rendered all honor and glory, now and forever.”
          John Jay
          William Jay, The Life of John Jay, 1883
          Devout Christian

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Thanks Samurai and do not worry. He/they hate us afraid of us because we are exposing their wicked nature and their lies by spreading TRUTH.

            They are of their father the devil, and the DESIRES OF THEIR FATHER THEY WANT TO DO. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does NOT STAND IN THE TRUTH, because THERE IS NO TRUTH IN HIM. When he speaks a LIE, he speaks from his own resources, for HE IS A LIAR AND THE FATHER OF IT. (John 8:44)

            They have their father’s “spiritual” DNA, which is EVIL.

            Keep good fight, my brother and God bless you and yours.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Same to you fellow patriot and have a good weekend. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Shut up and go home now. Or do I have to come to your work? I know who this is and it won’t take much for me to have your job. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Then why don’t you practice what you preach? Here is something about the pretender and his administration.
            http://www.capitolhilldaily.com/2013/07/washington-cover-up-machine/#more
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
            “The Federalist may fairly enough be regarded as the most authentic exposition of the heart of the federal Constitution as understood by the body which prepared and the authority which accepted it.”
            James Madison
            Founding father
            Member of the constitutional convetion
            “Father of the Constitution”
            4th President of the U.S.
            Devout Christian

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I respect myself, family, and friends just fine, but I do not respect someone who lies about this country, has no nads to serve, ditches veterans and their concerns, comes onto this site and breaks every part of the policy, and especially someone who lies about God, Jesus, Christianity, and the Bible. Your kind are nothing but traitors. Your not a spy or anything like that, but you want to get rid of our Constitution, forget our Christian founding, rewrite our history, badmouth God, Jesus, Christianity, and the Bible, along with what made America great, ergo, you are a traitor. A traitor to everything that made America what it is. Now go home. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
            “The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget about God.”
            Psalms 9:17
            *You say you want respect? Respect is just like anything else in this world, it must be earned. Till you stop doing the things I have posted, you will never get any patriots respect and will continue to be called a traitor.

          • KG

            I’m still waiting for those verses that say Jesus liked religious people, like yourself.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            So what is your problem, pathetic libtard. Read your Harry Potter and do not forget Dreams From His Father.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Keep yapping Delusional PITIFUL EGO-CENTRIC MANIAC

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            s-n-s says: “You act as if what you are saying is affecting me.”
            Yes, it DOES!!! Otherwise you would not reply.

            s-n-s says: “It only makes me chuckle at your absurdity.”
            Good! I promise you that you will continue to chuckle. JUST read my comments, which are exposing YOUR absurdity.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            GOOD GRIEF, it’s not copying. It’s using your own words to answer your Libtardic nonsense. WHY you, libtards, so STUPID? Public Education?

            Wise Up and not whining like all your Libtardic brothers and sisters. Aren’t you your brother’s keeper and your sister’s keeper?

            How PATHETIC you are!!! Put your big boy pants on. Or your mommy forgot to put them into your closet?

            Do NOT be so miserably unhappy like:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-IxH1hH19o

            P.S. Feel free to check punctuation. Thanks

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Keep yapping Delusional, PITIFUL, EGO-CENTRIC MANIAC.

            Now you have the punctuation, high school dropout.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Look who is preaching about “right and wrong” and about “ethical or moral foundation”?!

            First look at mirror, pathetic Yo Moron000 “of the 13 generation out of 14”.

            Your mommy did not teach you to be a man, but envious,
            decimal, defectible ego-maniac. Find your big boy pants, put them on and STOP your diarrhoetic whining. You are Enormously STUPID. START educate yourself instead of jumping like flea from comment to comment spewing
            your hatred, stupidity and ignorance.

          • Bob666

            Wow Pork Rhine,
            And you are a hypocrite as well!
            All I have to do is respond to you and you show more of your lack of character with every post.

            Got some pineapple, cloves and cherrys, ready for the pit?

          • Average_Joe56

            Is your playback section….stuck in stupid mode today?

            All I have to do is respond to you and here comes the stupid…..

            “To be matter-of-fact about the world is to blunder into fantasy – and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful.”

            Robert A. Heinlein

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Yo Moron000 “of the 13 generation out of 14”, continue to return to your own vomitus.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            The Bible is the Word of God and no mere book. In fact, answer this question. What proof and evidence can you provide that shows atheism to be accurate and correct? No science books. Speaking of being judged, I suugest you remember what you said. Remember to remove the beam from your eye so you can see clearly enough to remove the mote from another’s eye, hypocrite! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하노 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
            “Unless the Lord builds the house, its builders labor in vain.”
            Psalms 127:1

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            You lie too much, now go home. Remember, thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. And about you hijacking my name, that is against the policy of this site. Bob Livingston has warned you, now do things the way a man should and not this pathetic excuse that you have shown yourself to be. You say you are not the person I said, but you sure do say the same dumb words his less intelligent mind says. Now go home. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor. BTW, stop lying about the Bible. It’ll only get you fire and brimstone when you die.
            “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.”
            Psalms 33:12

          • paintinc56

            Funny, it is you leftists that use intimidation, hate & violence to silence your opponents. Gays attacking a church youth group, hitting them with rocks & bottles, spitting on them & calling them filthy names, attacking an old lady for supporting prop 8, vandalizing businesses & churches & sending death threats & going into the FRC with the intent to kill everyone working there. Then there are the pro abortion crowd, throwing feces & used tampons at lawmakers for trying to stop abortions past 20 weeks & beating & even murdering pro life supporters. Then there are the union thugs, threatening, intimidating, beating & even murdering non union supporters. Last but certainly not least is the racist, violent black community, targeting all light skinned races, robbing, brutally beating, raping & murdering them at will. 45% of black crime is committed against whites, 3% of white crime is committed against blacks.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            You are the bully. Now go home. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I meant back to the states. Where you are is not your home. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Oh, keep talking your diarrheic nonsense, delusional
            PSYCHOPATH

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            I have NONE problem to be “personally” hated by ilk like you. For me it is an honor to be hated by satanic slaves.

            You hate my “words” because they are exposing your evilness and wicked deeds. MY words will not be changed because “Jesus Christ is the same YESTERDAY and TODAY and FOREVER.” (Hebrews 13:8) Amen!

          • paintinc56

            Bullies, you mean like MURDERING, RAPING & BEATING “white” people because you don’t like a verdict, or throwing feces & used tampons on lawmakers trying to make it illegal to murder babies who have been proven are capable of feeling PAIN, or gays & gay activists hitting 15 yo CHILDREN with rocks & bottles & calling them filthy names, or union thugs threatening, beating & even murdering those that oppose them, or a president who uses the media, IRS, FBI, CIA, NSA & EPA to BULLY & INTIMIDATE his political opponents? Oops, you accidentally ran across someone who is INFORMED.
            Nothing a hating, lying BULLY, YOU & ALL LEFTISTS, hates more than TRUTH & FACTS!

  • Average_Joe56

    Feeling froggy? Jump right on in…Fair warning though…
    Don’t let your alligator mouth write checks that your canary @ss can’t cash.
    I must deduce that you are a liberal panty waste…judging from your obvious civility (sarcasm).
    C’mon down to West Central Florida…let me teach you the error of your ways….unless of course (as I suspect) you’re all mouth and no spine…… Let’s see who smacks who in the mouth……. C’mon Toad…..pack a lunch and bring some friends…you’ll need them.

  • Average_Joe56

    Actually being found not guilty…means found to be…. innocent.

    Not sure where you went to school…or what dictionary you’re using…but you may want to get your money back…you’ve been cheated…and are apparently too stupid to realize it.

    Innocent:

    2. free from legal or specific wrong; guiltless: innocent of the crime.

    “Never insult anyone by accident”

    Robert A. Heinlein

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      Joe, do not be deceive and be aware:
      The Mentally Ill ego-centric psychopath bob666 is posting on this Website under the names as Stars-n-Stripes, Justsomeguy151 or Hall of the Mountain King.

      • Bob666

        Oh poor pork loin,

        “psychopath bob666 is posting on this Website under the names as Stars-n-Stripes, Justsomeguy151 or Hall of the Mountain King”.

        Well Chitterlings, as usual, you’re wrong. Stars-n-Stripes obviously sees you to be the nut jobs that you are. Justsomeguy151 and I have agreed on very little in the past, but both of us see you to be a real wacka-doodle and I have never seen a post from “Hall of the Mountain King” or heard of him/her.

        Perhaps you can find a You-Tube video to prove this to everyone?

        ,

        • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

          Of cause you, Yo Moron666 “of the 13 generation out of 14” one face under Justsomeguy151, Stars-n-Stripes and Hall of the Mountain King masks.
          Keep yapping dismal pathetic creature.
          Or keep squeaking manurial fly.

          • Bob666

            Well Chitterlings,

            “Keep yapping dismal pathetic creature”

            How you can score some more crack soon, I like Alondra on drugs much better than Alondra-unplugged or un-medicated.

            BTW, Obama is under your bed…….

          • Bob666

            Yes Pork Belly,
            When cornered like a rat, you resort to sexual innuendo and accusations. Perhaps some more propaganda and lies are in order-maybe something from you-tube?

            What is most sad is that you believe that anyone cares.

  • Average_Joe56

    Wow, Stars…you really are a class act…low class that is…..

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      He took his mask off. He again is 666

  • Average_Joe56

    We try to keep things simple…we wouldn’t want you to get lost in the conversation. We understand your difficulty with big words, logic, civility and common sense…so we simplify…just for you…..
    See how inclusive we are?
    Now, say thank you……

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      He likes to talk with his demonic ghosts. They are his roommates. So do not worry about the ego-maniac Moron666. He is in good company.

  • Rev. Sharptons ass

    If he was white the black trhugs would be saying, he got his white ass whipped for missing with a brother home-boy, that’s whats gonna happen to all you crackers for missing with a gangsta. my boy went gangsta on hium you know wat im saying.

  • vicki

    Proof by bald assertion we see. Samurai at least provided a cite for his assertion.

  • vicki

    ad hominem

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    Here we are with the left wing wackos talking about race, when they are the ones that always play the race card. They play it only to keep people divided, because they know that if everyone came together for a common cause like defense, the Conctitution, immigration, etc., they would lose every seat they currently hold (to include the pretender in the White House. Here is a shining example of this. Chris Matthews opens mouth and inserts foot.
    http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/07/msnbc-chris-matthews-compares-gop-to-whites-defending-apartheid/
    FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
    You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
    “Better to fight for something then to die for nothing.”
    General George S. Patton, Jr.

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    SSDD, eh traitor? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
    You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

  • Devasahayam

    As the case of Roderick Scott shows, Trayvon Martin would still be dead and in hell if he were white — the one difference is that race-baiters such as 0bama, Hoodlum, Dullton, Jackson, Farakhan wouldn’t have even shown up let alone called for the lynching of Zimmerman, nor tried to do so through the court (which backfired badly).

  • Average_Joe56

    Stars-n-Stripes,
    I don’t assume you’re just that ignorant and rude, I know you are.

    Thanks for proving it.

    • Alondra

      He did prove endless times.
      Explanation? He is in his daddy devil and the DESIRES of HIS daddy FATHER he does (John 8:44)

  • Corsica

    That phony sanctimonious bullsh*t that this stupid bastard president talked about where he heard car door locks click when he approached. What a fkg lying sack of sh*t. And IF it did happen its because blacks were murdering and robbing white people non-stop (much like today). So of course they’re going to lock their doors! Fkg moron!

    • MyronJPoltroonian

      Yosh, “Grashopper.”

    • Jeff

      How can Corsica go outside and relax? There may be a colored kid out there! For him, going outside is like a soldier getting ready for battle.

      • paintinc56

        45% of black crime is committed against “white” races. Never let FACTS get in the way of your leftist drivel though, right?
        FBI crime statistics don’t lie & are there for ALL to see so instead of blowing off your mouth about racism, you RACIST, try having some FACTS & then maybe someone will give a $hit about your mindless opinions.

    • paintinc56

      Never muddy the leftist waters with FACTS.
      Obama has never been discriminated against a day in his life by his “white” side. Maybe he was rejected by the racist blacks for not being black enough, that is common in their community.

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    Stop hijacking my name Kang. That’s an order. Bob Livingston, you just warned this idiot yesterday about this, but yet he continues. If you can, ban him from this site. I wouldn’t have known about this if it weren’t for Bob666. How much more is this sociopath going to do before he is given the heave ho? Sook Young also is upset about this. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
    You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

    • Jeff

      I thought that post made more sense than anything else of yours I’ve read.

  • rocco

    If trayzon was white Zimmerman would have been arrested on the spot and the police would have look high and low for his parents.

  • Pat

    Your link is to gay porn you jacka$$. I clicked on it and it opened up to gay porn in front of my daughter you low life.

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    Were you there to witness what happened between Trayvon Martin and George Zimmermen?!? NO!!!!!

    Stop lying and defend the THUG who is culpable in his own death. Stop thinking you’re expert on everything! Are you an investigator? Or maybe you’re a medical examiner? None of those. And YOU WEREN’T THERE TO WITNESS.

    The only one who is TRULY Satanic is you and the devil you worship each hour!

    YOU DO NOT WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH even if it came out of your rear as you were sitting on the toilet and heard each turd say “truth” as each one hit the water!

    This is the TRUTH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF-Ax5E8EJc
    And this: http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&load=8689&mpid=56

    WHY you do not want to know the TRUTH? Because “You are of your father the devil, and the DESIRES OF YOUR FATHER YOU WANT TO DO. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does NOT STAND IN THE TRUTH, because THERE IS NO TRUTH IN HIM. When he speaks a LIE, he speaks from his own resources,
    for HE IS A LIAR AND THE FATHER OF IT.” (John 8:44)

    So shut up!!! We aren’t interested in your and your master’s LIES.
    Chao

    • Bob666

      Yo Stars,
      Pork-Fest is a propagandist. Being truthful is not in her DNA (nor is there anything to do with the human genome for that fact).

      You might as well ask her to jump to the moon as that is no more possible for her to do than tell the truth about anything.

      I hope that you will register an account and stay for a while. But there are rules that need to be followed and that helps you get and maintain credibility from people like myself who have at least one foot on the ground of reason and sanity.

      Don’t get me wrong, some of those post were funny and spot on, but it was temporary and you lost ground in the long round.

      Just a thought.

      Have a good evening.

      • Bob666

        Yo Stars,
        I’m not here to win friends, but there are a few people that I have come to appreciate and respect.

        As for the others, just like shooting ducks in a blind.
        I merely give a measured response-nothing more.
        If you set up an account-you get to vote and they really take their up vote way too seriously!