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Welcome To The NFL, Mr. President

September 3, 2011 by  

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • Michael J.

    In yet another sign of weakness, Obama changed the schedule of the jobs speech. A move which signals both domestically and internationally that our faux potus is not possessed of the moral, physical and intelectual backbone to make a pimple on a world leaders posterior. Thus perpetuating the personna of national insecurity and vulnerability in a Clintonesque way to our adoring enemies.

    Obama would not have been shut out in this latest escapade if his intentions were righteous and just. If his policies were perceived as helpful and positive he would be allowed to proceed and would bolster confidence and economic growth. But his thinly veiled vendetta aimed at the evils of capitalism and his misconception of colonialism are as easy too see as Godzilla through a pain glass window.

    He reminds me of the night manager at the local Walmart where I shop. I see him often and have heard him reply when questioned about a problem, that he inherited the problem from the day time manager who preceeded him. At other times I have heard him st-st-stutter unconvincingly while speaking over the stores intercom, seemingly lost and having to frequently look down at the telepromter to regain his place and composure.

    • Rose Specht

      With Capitalism it is “man against man.” With Communism it is the other way around. They are opposite sides of the same coin, and the ideals of either system have never been realized. Nor has there ever been a true democracy.

      It is always good to have a scapegoat for problems though, someone to blame for our pain. We can see in others what we deny within ourselves.

      • http://peronalliberty Kevin

        what part of the United States Of America being a Republic don’t you dems understand?

        • Ed

          Why do you blame just the demo0krauts when the republi-krauts are cut from the same cloth exactly? Why do you not realize it is just a game to them, with each in fact sharing the fault equally – but not nearly to the extent of we people that have let them get by with their criminal and treasonous actions against America and the American people.
          Christ, bud, we just had a republi-kraut that was absolutely dumber than a box of rocks let loose by a republi-kraut controlled congress, and a bunch of Zionist so-called Jews running the supreme court.

          And you still blame dems. I am neither – I am a American and if we all thought as such, we would not be killing innocents (ordered by Bush and his bunch of criminals) or maintained by the illegal alien put in the white house by super super wealthy jewish bankers intent on destroying America, the first land founded as a white Christian land.

          We would not have any of the problems we have today had only the people remained vigilant and tried and executed the first officials, including on the local level, that committed treason by oppressing the rights of the first American so affected.

          Get off the party crap because it is just a tool to divide and, if you will check, both modern parties came from one that divided on so-called principles in maybe 1845. It is show time for them and nothing more. Just check the records of who and what controlled as the major false laws (false because feds nor any other government can order about the people as we are the sovereignty, not government) were put in and enforced through domestic terrorism and out and out lies told by politicians and then supported by stinking ass judges, attorneys, and judge/attorneys.

          The answer is with we people but most are too afraid to even confront an official, let alone stand against him regardless of the outcome. That takes courage. And most would rather live in fear as slaves that stand as Americans with truth on their side unafraid.

          • Bill


          • OB1
          • Allan


            Despite self-serving, lying politicians on both sides, Democrats want socialism more, and THAT is a game breaker.

            Interesting that you criticize conservatives for blaming Democrats for this, while you criticize Jews for “running” the Supreme Court. Perhaps you should let the Catholic Chief Justice know that Jews are running his court with five Catholics on it.

          • Dave

            Congradulations Ed, you could be mistaken for a reincarnated Adolph Hitler! He also liked to attach “GOD’s Choosen People. Here in Oklahoma,
            even lower middle class get to have an input in the State Rep Party, and quite often if the Party differs with the major of its members the Members win and the party looses. So Ed I’ll keep you in my prayer for GOD,to enligten your Heart and confused Brain!

          • Lance

            It is bigoted morons like you who give true conservatives a bad name. This country was founded by people who hated religious persecution and bigotry and who made separation of church and state their highest priority

          • Observer 1

            Yup…right out of Carrol Quigley’s “Tragedy and Hope”…Wake the hell up America.

        • Marty S.

          We used to be a republic, we are more like a banana republik now run by a marxist communist Kenyan moron who has somehow intimidated the conservative voices in Washington D.C. with the exception of Ron Paul. God help the USA if Oba-Mao is in for another four years. He honestly thinks he is doing a good job for us by golly. He ignores the polls and believes he is a shoe-in for 2012. If the election is rigged, that may be so, Oh help us Lord.

        • Janice M Cullen RE Broker

          Kervin, what part of BIpartisian do you have diffaculty with!

      • Michael J.

        Rose Specht said:

        “With Capitalism it is “man against man.” With Communism it is the other way around. They are opposite sides of the same coin, and the ideals of either system have never been realized.”

        It is true Rose that all forms of government can become corupt and then self implode. We’ve seen Communism run it’s course in the former Soviet Union and witnessed the totalitarian canibalism that ensued, sucking the life blood out of the land and it’s people.

        Capitalism on the other hand, as prescribed by the founders has been high-jacked by communist subversionist, and is not itself responsible for the current floundering we are experiencing. Capitalism and Capitalist are guilty only of complacency, but Communist are responsible for the tyranny in both systems of governance.

        “Nor has there ever been a true democracy.”

        The founders were aware of the pitfalls of a true democracy Rose, that’s why they gave us a republic, “Mam, if you can keep it”

        “It is always good to have a scapegoat for problems though, someone to blame for our pain. We can see in others what we deny within ourselves.”

        Interesting Rose, Hitler scapegoated the Jews and Obama is scapegoating the wealthy. And now the Bilderberg elites are as we speak or type that is, re-tooling to scapegoat Obama. With a double shot of sodium penathol, even Obama himself would tell you that at first it’s like a roller coaster ride to the top as the elites lavish you with money, resources and positive media imaging. Then at a point of their choosing, they turn against you in preperation for their next preordained messiah (Rick Perry?)

        • Kate8

          Wow, Michael J. Excellent response. Eloquent and accurate, as usual.

          I do so admire those with fine minds and keen awareness.

          • Michael J.

            Thanks Kate, just doin my job.

        • OB1

          Ben Crystal! This is the best commentary you’ve ever done! I couldn’t stop laughing! I am putting out an interview (part) from 10 year olds at Scholastic News to Pres. O. There is a link to hear the enire interview with the 10 year old children! I sincerely, cannot wait to hear his lies to little children! I can’t write…I can’t stop laughing! How does someone bald face lie to a child! Please don’t even get me started as to the sheer number of people in my area who have lost their homes to short sales and foreclosure! Perhaps we should put this little girl on the ballot! I have got to go. Thanks!

        • Pam R

          Kudos to you Michael J. You said it well. I wish more people knew the truth. We wouldn’t be in this mess. And I do hope everyone learns the truth about Rick Perry before it’s too late. God Bless America.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Pam R–I agree with you.

          • Mary Mahonan

            What is the truth about Rick Perry?? I was leaning towards him. Who would you vote for if the election were held today??

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Mary Mahonan,
            It sure as heck wouldn’t be Rick Perry! I don’t vote for anybody that would make getting a questionable vaccination MANDITORY!!! RON PAUL ALL THE WAY, AND GET THE JUDGE TO RUN WITH HIM!!!

        • Vicki

          Capitalism and Communism are economic philosophies. Government is force like fire. And like fire it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.

          With respect to democracy there have been many in the world. They have been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.

          I watched a short lived democracy recently on tv.

          I saw 15 people get together and vote on what to do with a truck.
          They voted 14-1 to tear it apart. They then tore the truck apart.
          Next they voted (14-1) to set it afire. The truck burned.
          Last they voted (14-1) to beat up the driver. The driver was later taken to the hospital.

          Democracy had come at last to the lands of the Pharaoh.

      • Janice M Cullen RE Broker

        You are so right Rose, and even worse is the whining by those who have no clue!

        • Michael J.

          Janice M Cullen RE Broker,
          Pardon me Marie, but I think Rose is left.

      • Another Voice

        Good points, Rose!

      • http://Boblivingston Legg

        That’s so true, fingers has been pointed at the President since day one and the problems were already in exsitence’s and all the elected offficals need’s sit (ASS) down and get these problems solved for the people instead of throwing racial slurr’s.

        • Michael J.

          Exactly who is it that is “Throwing racial slurs”? Without providing evidence to back up your claim, you don’t have a legg to stand on.

      • Patrick Lilley

        well said my lady. I couldn’t care less what you call it as long as it works. Socialized medicine has PROVEN to work over and over. The repubs love the chaos and death that not having it causes. It’s what they learn in church. It looks to me like congress is ther to do nothing except make sure that nothing is done. I wish I could go to the town hall meetings we have at work and tell my bosses. I MADE SURE NOTHING WAS DONE. Our rep here in the first district of Tennessee couldn’t hit his own ass with both hands. All he ever says is. I’m a doctor and I go to church and people keep telling me blah, blah. And also he says that govt doesn’t work. What an idiot!!! They have voted republican here for 40 years and absolutely nothing has changed, it’s a stagnant shithole, I have worked in other industry that put pins on maps of where the trade is taking place. Tis whole area is vacant of any and all trade whatsoever. Our chamber of commerce sees to that. It’s the most corrupt area of the country.

    • Warrior

      In a perfect world, the chief d-bag would stand in front of congress and provide us with one of the following two options.

      1.) I challenge congress to stop all new legislation for the remainder of my term and focus on elimination of duplicative guvmint programs and ridding ourselves of our ridiculous tax code. In turn, I will cease all regulatory attacks on private enterprise. I will direct my useless guvmint minions to immediately grant approval to drill for oil, continue digging for coal, build pipelines, build nuclear reactors, release guvmint lands for farming, direct monies set aside for high speed rail blunders to be used for infrastructure repairs. I also promise to get ourselves involved in any further foreign incursions. The Arabs can have their spring and we will not interfere however, if your spring results in any further attacks on any American, we will blow you off the face of this planet.

      2.) Second message – I stand here in front of this congress to inform you that michelle and I are catching a plane back to chicago tomorrow. I’ve taken a new position as rahm’s assistant… Oh and that means that jarrett and axelrod are coming with us.

      • PAWatcher

        Warrior, now that’s a scenario we could all live well with!

      • usmadgirl


        I second this motion!

      • Pam R

        Don’t expect anything good from this man. He doesn’t have it in him. He is evil personified. His backers are evil as well. They will never achieve a OWO as long as there are people like us. Hurry 2012 before he destroys us. God Bless America

    • Jyrine

      Love ya Ben;o)

      Semper Fi

  • AJ

    That Walmart manager probably has more intelegence and charisma than the phony potus in the Whitemart.

  • J Hill

    Not only another sign of weakness, but another sign of not adhering to PPPPPPP by obama’s inept staff. You know: Proper prior planning prevents piss poor performance. Just remember his recent trip to Ireland ( going over bumps in a road), England (toasting the queen), getting Osama Bin Laden (releasing numerous accounts of a super secret operation!), The whole bunch has to go, go, go, go!

    • Kate8

      J Hill – You said a mouthful. And we will continue to be smacked down by this administration again and again, and suffer the embarrassment of having a completely common and inept “leader” who has NO understanding of protocol around the world, for as long as he manages to pull off this farce.

      He’s demonstrated where his loyalties lie, and it’s not with America.

  • Mike

    If you wonder what will Obama do next, just ask your self what would harm America!

    • Larry Pierson

      Amen! An excellent observation.

  • Jandehere

    I did enjoy hearing that. Thanks

  • sean murrey ILLInio

    iwould rather watch the NFL than this POS.


      I find myself unable to listen to Obama any more. He drones on and on, repeating the same old air time fillers which are mostly blatent lies. Nauseating and depressing. I understand why Boehner crys for our country…I do too. Remember the old attorney jokes about how you can tell he is lying if his lips are moving? He is not even capable of appearing presidential.

      • moonbeam

        C E LINDSEY, my sentiments exactly. Let me tell you, I literally HEAVE when obama’s face appears in front of my eyes.

        I get embarrassed when he stands there with his nose in the air, lying through his horse teeth talking to us as if we are fools.

        I get frustrated when trying to enlighten people to do their research on this illegal muslim sitting in our white house. Their heads are buried in their asses.

        He has used different social security numbers, which the government KNOWS about, yet they do absolutely nothing about it. We’d be cooling our jets in prison if any of us tried that.

        So much law breaking he has done right in our faces as the corruption continues unabated.

        Time to take up arms, revolt and do what the Constitution COMPELS us to do, take back our government and begin a new one strictly based on the Constitution of the United States of America.

        The Middle East has been successful in ousting dictators. We The People can do the same thing right here. Get rid of ALL the liars, whores and thieves (we know who they are). Every last stinkin’ one of ‘em!

      • http://VisiontoAmerica Jayne Harmon

        I agree with you. If Obama comes on, my television goes to a different channel. Jayne H.

  • Don39

    Lack of PPPPPPP is standard OPPRO for the OBAMINATION REIGN!!!

  • gundealer1940

    Why bother to post anything. Anyone with half a brain can see for themselves that Nobama’s agenda is to intentionally destroy America and all that she stands for. After all, didn’t Khrushchev say that he would destroy ourselves from within. Nobama……… the answer to the communist’s dream of world conquest!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      If you are in a fight with a man that refuses to go down are you going to turn your back to him and walk away? Hope you have someone watching your back! When your kids were little, did you tell them not to do something once and expect them to remember or did you remind them over and over till they learned it? A lot of patriots here, myself included will keep on reminding people till our fingers no longer work or barry is out of office, which ever comes first! If he is replaced by another just like him we will start all over if there is still an internet!

  • Violet

    I’d rather watch grass grow. At least I would know something was being accomplished and at a blinding speed comparatively.

    • crystal


    • Kate8

      Violet – I’d say he’s going at lightning speed in the destruction of America.

      • OB1

        Kte8, I want to send you this because I am very concerned about the black community being caught in the cross-hairs of evil. God sees no color, just the heart and soul of mankind. I read your links and listened to them. So much I want to share! I would like you to listen to this and proof. I have NEVER been a LF supporter, and as usual, this happened by accident when I received something else! What say you?
        I am concerned about race and culture wars which is part of the agenda of badness.

        • Kate8

          OB1 – Did you forget the link?

          • OB1

            Yes. I’ve always suspected him of being a socialist and a communist….but why would he be posting this Utube now? Seems like culture wars to me. I really do want your opinion on this one. It may be simple anti-Semitic…you know who is the author of confusion…
            why would he be doing this now? What is unsettling to me, is that the original NAACP and the Anti Defamation league were united in combating racism and discrimination at one time. Looks to me like the entire thing has been hijacked…again, what say you?


          • Kate8

            OB1 – The link was a Japanese singer imitating Karen Carpenter.

            There is no doubt that LF is a communist. He even hailed O as the long awaited messiah prior to his election. Sometimes it’s easy to get drawn in to his speeches. He can sound sincere. But the man is part of the current descent into evil, and yes, sadly, the blacks and other minorities are being drawn into it because of the way the left has stirred them up against white America.

            You might want to read about the curse of Ham, Noah’s son. Now, I’m not saying either way, but it’s undeniable that the descendents of Ham have suffered from an inability to rise in stature with the rest of the world. And you certainly can’t lay all the blame at the feet of caucasia. The entire African continent has always remained primitive and poverty and disease stricken, except for what other nations have brought in.

            Satan no doubt uses this sad fact to lay blame on America and stir up racial strife. It’s one of communists favorite tool for instigating war. Of course it’s all about class warfare. The same with allowing the flood if third-world immigrants, both legal and illegal. As you know, O’s administration is arming them as well, preparing them to go on a rampage against (especially white) Americans.

            Sorry I didn’t get the clip you were talking about, but I’ve heard him speak before about it.

  • Andrew

    o shd have clips, of his address to congress, inserted during the game, it would actually appeared on a few more tv sets. not that more people would have listen to him. o’s talk would be dead air time.

    make a heniken commercial with his speech, that might work too.

    this is further minimalizing our congress.

    there is a horse named “potus” running at the saratoga race track today.

    • LarryH

      The whole horse? Or just the back half??? ;o)

      • Kookiw

        Or the white part or black part.

  • John R. Harbison

    Violet I really liked that. Obama is more like grass in Texas right now.we have had a all time dry spell, grass burnt up and gone with the dry wind

  • http://none Nancy

    With all the BS he has pulled. It amazes me that this jerk and Eric Holder are still alive.

    • http://deleted Claire

      Nancy: Still alive? You better hope the POTUS does stay alive. If anything happens to him, I imagine we will all see civil war like never before. All it takes is one stupid psycho to read posts such as this and go off half-cocked.

      • C E LINDSEY

        Exactly what I’ve been saying. Pray for his safety until he is voted out in 2012. If even an attempt is made on him the riots of the 60′s will look like a little street party!

        • http://deleted Claire

          C E Lindsey– I am glad you agree with my comment. I will go one step further–I do think it is a “race” issue with some people. I hear the derogatory comments from some of the people I know, and this concerns me. This is serious business. Like you said, all we have to do is vote him out.

        • JimRed

          But if it MUST happen let it be soon, before we are disarmed!

          • Kate8

            Nancy wasn’t calling for any harm to come to the jerk. She just stated she was surprised it hadn’t. I doubt if that’s going to send anyone off on a rampage.

            The lower classes in this country are being trained and incited to riot as we speak, no matter what happens. It’s already begun. There will be some kind of trigger that will be a signal to take to the streets. If it isn’t one event, it will be another.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Kate8–There are a lot of nuts out there. One never knows. I have learned to take nothing for granted and I am sure you feel the same way. The flash mobs will come into being.


      I am waiting for Holder to go down over the “Fast & Furious” scandal!

      • independent thinker

        and the sooner it happens the better.

      • Michael J.

        C E LINDSEY,
        Don’t hold your breath, Obama and Holder are mutually protective of one another. Watching each others backside, which in itself is enough to make normal hetrosexuals skin crawl.

  • rosina

    Now he has changed the ‘speech’ time to 7pm so that everyone?????? can see this Imposter! Ha! Ha!
    The three branches of govt. were created EQUAL EXPRESSLY, for balance, so one branch could not take over the others and become a dictatorship which this branch-the executive- is going all out to do.

    • Bruce

      Rosina, That was how it was set up, but all that was changed in 1860, and from that point on we are now the United states,
      {not the union of states as it was prior to 1860.}

      That means after Executive order #1, when “Martial Rule” was invoked we went in to being a Business, so now we have three branchs of business,
      CEO = Potus,
      Borad of Directors = Congress,
      The Enforcement = DOJ.

      Is that clear enough? If not let me know what part is not clear.
      {The original Constitution & Bill of Rights} was lost in 1860 just after “Martial Rule” was invoked.

      In plain words we all have been living a BIG LIE.

    • mari morris

      I propose that whenever the speech is, that we stage the largest WALKOUT in history. As soon as he begins his BS fest, Every citizen should walk out of their house. Mow the lawn, play with the kids, take a walk, talk with the neighbor, whatever. Just be outside and thus boycotting the speech…Who’s with me?

      • Karolyn

        HAHAHAHAHAH! Do you seriously think enuogh people would band together to do that?

        • Kate8

          It wouldn’t matter. They don’t care what we think anymore, anyway.

          They are doing whatever they want to do, coming out with phoney speeches at intervals to give the illusion that we matter, but all we hear is lies.

      • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

        I would love to, but I can barely afford to drive to town for groceries anymore.

        • Michael J.

          Lewis Munn,
          Bingo, broke, destitute people cannot protest.

          • Top 73rd

            The poor and destitute are usually the ones to revolt. The French Revolution – to the unrest in Syria, Egypt, Libya, and so one.
            I pray it doesn’t come to that in the US!

      • Song

        sounds like a good plan to me mari. I won’t be watching. I’ve got better things to do, besides I don’t want to be sick listening to all of his pandering and his lies.

      • Jay

        I love that idea mari, and the way things are going, i honestly think we could get enough people together to pull it off! Whether it would turns things around or not, probably not, who knows. But i think we would get the satisfaction of letting them know that we are no longer buying their crap! I’d love to do it during one of barry’s speeches. No yelling, no screaming, just a quiet “walk out”. That’s a powerful idea!

      • independent thinker

        The speach will be 6 oclock local time and I will be napping in my recliner.

  • Spectre

    Guys, What do you expect from the DEMONCRATS.Let’s see,they’ve given us Social(IN)Security,MEDICAID,MEDICARE.Then they gave us OBAMA,the MAGIC NEGRO,from KENYA who,armed with more SOCIAL SECURITY numbers than can safely be put in a rollex,claimed he could leap tall piles of debt in a single bound,who claimed he was faster than a speeding brick and who claimed he was going to change everything … well,I guess one out of three aint too bad.Remember,there are many black women who are still willing to vote for him just because he’s only half white !
    And, you must admit,we did get change.He managed to kill our economy in one fell swoop,he managed to anger just about every one of our allies and mind you, the Russians thought he had koodies so,they didn’t bother to shake his hand. Of course,he hasn’t bothered to salute the flag,salute our honored fallen soldiers nor do anything else that a person who had grown up here in this nation would instinctively do like wear an American flag lapel pin.
    Of course,he’s now counting on the ILLEGAL Hispanic vote to win the next election for him since most black people have realized that they too have a LOT to loose if OBAMA is elected again.
    So,what happens if BARAK the INSANE is elected again?I think we will loose our freedoms because OBAMA will effectively burn the Constitution and with it,our freedoms.The black man will once again feel the yoke of tyranny upon their shoulders.The last time it was placed there was by Woodrow Wilson,another DEMONCRAT who ushered in APARTHEID and,… please, all black folk step to the back of the bus.I thought that was stupid back then and I do not want to see that happen here again,ever !
    OBAMA still wants to create a CIVILIAN SECURITY FORCE that would be the equal of the military just like someone else did about 80 years ago in a land far,far away.As you recall,Hitler created the N.S. which was a civilian security force.They were his private army that got sent out to encourage those who stood up to Hitler to NOT do that anymore.Later,Hitler the Heinous created the S.S. which took the place of the N.S.So,I must ask,why does OBAMA the INSANE think he needs them?Perhaps to help ram his OBAMACARE down our collective throats or to help shuffle us on down to the local concentration camp for a really good shower?!Ok,who got tha soap??! —- Spec. —

    • William New Mexico

      You are stupid and not an American. Not matter what you say otherwise. This website is one of the most anti-Amerian website on the internet. If you can’t see by the comments made you are in deep trouble and need help.

      • http://google gary gerke

        No William, this website is anti communistic and anti destruction of the constitution and bill of rights. You have many other web site options, please use those options!

      • dlsimm


        you wrote:

        You are stupid and not an American. Not matter what you say otherwise. This website is one of the most anti-Amerian website on the internet.

        So when did you meet “Spectre”? How do you know he is a stupid American? I am sure he could show you his birth certicate. You seem to be the one that appears to be ignorant, because of your blind loyalty to our arrogant, narsissistic, egotistical, vacation loving president. What is “anti-Amerian”??

        • Kate8

          No, William. Those who defend our Constitution are patriots.

          It is Obama who is anti-American, and so are you for taking his side. You are a perfect example of the mindless, zombified sheep being turned out of our mis-education system these days.

          You’d better open your eyes. There’s not much time left.

          • Jay

            Folks, the man is obviously confused.

            Hey kate, i remember a while back you mentioning that there presently exists weaponry, or technology, that can be used as weapons of war to create tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunamis, ect..And i remember some people would ridicule you. Well, guess what? Get those numb-nuts to read this article, “Environmental Modification Convention” (1977) ! Now in the second paragraph is states: Use of environmental modification techniques for hostile purposes does not play a major role in military planning at the present time. Such techniques might be developed in the future, however, and would pose a threat of serious damage unless action was taken to prohibit their use. Really? Do you believe that? I don’t! Who were the 48 signatories? Would that be all the big boys like, Russia, United States, on. Why would they sign a peace- treaty based on technology that at the time, 1977, didn’t really exist, or so they say, or wasn’t developed yet to pose any sort of threat? Yah right, and i’m the pope’s uncle. Anyways, wasn’t sure weather, pun intended, you were aware of such a treaty, and thought i would bring it to your attention.

            Environmental Modification Convention (1977)

            Multilateral agreement with 48 signatories prohibiting the hostile use of “environmental modification techniques” (any technique for changing — through the deliberate manipulation of natural processes — the dynamics, composition or structure of the Earth, including its biota, lithosphere, hydrosphere and atmosphere, or of outer space) with widespread and long-lasting effects.


            Use of environmental modification techniques for hostile purposes does not play a major role in military planning at the present time. Such techniques might be developed in the future, however, and would pose a threat of serious damage unless action was taken to prohibit their use. In July 1972 the U.S. Government renounced the use of climate modification techniques for hostile purposes, even if their development were proved to be feasible in the future.

            Both the U.S. Senate and the House of Representatives held hearings, beginning in 1972, and the Senate adopted a resolution in 1973 calling for an international agreement “prohibiting the use of any environmental or geophysical modification activity as a weapon of war….” In response to this resolution, the President ordered the Department of Defense to undertake an in-depth review of the military aspects of weather and other environmental modification techniques. The results of this study and a subsequent interagency study led to the U.S. Governments decision to seek agreement with the Soviet Union to explore the possibilities of an international agreement.

            During the summit meeting in Moscow in July 1974, President Nixon and General Secretary Brezhnev formally agreed to hold bilateral discussions on how to bring about “the most effective measures possible to overcome the dangers of the use of environmental modification techniques for military purposes.” Three sets of discussions were held in 1974 and 1975, resulting in agreement on a common approach and common language.

            Here’s the rest of the article:

          • Kate8

            Jay – I’m used to being laughed at by now. I have always had a passion for learning the truth, no matter how out there it might seem. People disregard things they haven’t heard before, and don’t want to believe. That’s how the MIC is able to go so far without raising suspicion.

            I wish I could remember the exact issue, but Japan was, at one point, forced to comply with something they didn’t want to do because they were “threatened with some kind of earthquake weapon”. This was the statement by the Japanese official, now in compliance. It may have been over building nuclear plants on their (earthquake prone) island.

            Anyway, the MIC does not adhere to treaties. This technology is well advanced, much further than anyone would believe. It’s been being developed for more than half a century.

            Many of the quakes which have occurred in recent times have had the telltale markings of HAARP. The lavender sky just prior, the blue flashes just before it strikes…

            The PTB have tremendous weapons of tyranny, and they plan to unleash them on an unsuspecting world. This is foretold in Revelation, and in many OT books, as well. The antichrist will have these weapons at his disposal, and will proclaim himself “god”.

            How does one become aware of these things and not sound the alarm, even at the risk of being ridiculed?

            Thanks for the link.

          • Jay

            Hey Kate, according to Steve Quayle, there are 72 HAARP devices on this planet. What’s interesting, is that there were 72, ahmm, how shall i put it? Visitors, that first set foot on mount Hermon, and after their stay, and after some shenanigans, were escorted out, and confined. Well, according to Steve, these 72 devices, will be used to realise these captives from their house arrest. Interesting, huh?

          • Kate8

            Jay – I’m not sure I understood that. Do you have a link so I can read the story?

            Yep. There are HAARP facilities all over the planet. What is your take on 72?

            I know there are 72 stars on the US seal, representing 72 (fallen) angels or something or other. I found that to be interesting, as well. Correlates somehow with the 72 virgins of Islam? All of the numbers in the various symbols have meaning.

            Having studied numerology for many years, I see amazing number coincidences (?) everywhere. Did you know that Scriptures are all organized and cross-referenced according to numbers throughout the Books? Especially the Torah. They are organized in such a way that can only have been done by super-computer (or a Supreme Intelligence). It’s breathtaking, they mysteries that are there and have been missed until now.

          • Jay

            Kate, the 72 HAARP devices will be used to open portals that will release 72 of the fallen that pro-created with the women of man. I have pasted a podcast of the Hawk being interviewed. Its towards the end of the podcast that the Hawk reveals that information. Unfortunately i couldn’t find a transcript regarding that information. Nevertheless, the entire podcast is very riveting!


          • Jay

            Kate, this may be one of the best presentations that exposes the 9/11 agenda to purposely bring down the “Twin Towers”. Its comprised of 19 parts. Each part approximately 5-10 min. long. There’s no question, it was deliberate!!!


          • Kate8

            Jay – It’s a long podcast, so I’ll have to watch it later. But you can be sure I will.

            You probably already know that the number 11 is considered a “master number” in numerology, and is not reduced to a single digit like the others are. It also seems that it is an ominous number. You can find lls all over in days of events and other things, as well.

            11 represents the “gateway”, and is also within the Freemasonic temples, which is passed through during high initiations. The twin towers also represented the number 11, and went down on the llth. All through the Kabalistic tarot, the towers are shown throughout the trump cards in some form, usually in the background. In some cards they represent, also, the dual nature of man, or polarities. I’m sure there is much more, but this is only my own observation. I haven’t gotten around to researching it.

            The Freemasonic elite do everything in symbols. Antonio is very good with this, as he understands the processions of Venus that they use to plot their moves. He helped me to understand some of it, but I just haven’t gotten around to really looking at it yet.

            I appreciate your sharing of these things. So few people have any understanding of them, nor do they care to. I really only have you and one or two others on this site to exchange with. Thank you so much.

      • usmadgirl

        William New Mexico,

        Are you serious? This is one of the most PRO-American sites on the Internet! Spectre, by his comments, is about as PRO-American as you can be. The only ones on this site that AREN’T America-loving, Constitutionalists & American Capitalists are the O’Dumbo-loving progressives that come here to impose their Saul Alinsky tactics on us, but it won’t work here! They, like you, have no clue what being a true American is all about!

        If you don’t understand what Spectre is saying then what are you? It certainly isn’t PRO-American! Most of us here, except those like you, are disgusted with the un-American, un-Constitutional path your illegal POS POTUS is taking us! We happen to enjoy Liberty, but your president is taking us down a short road to Tyranny. Don’t think you can escape it just because you support him!

        You obviously didn’t listen to what he said BEFORE he was elected or what he’s said since. Where were you when he told us that “under his plan, your energy bills would necessarily skyrocket”? Do you WANT to pay more for your energy bills? If you do, you can help me with mine because I’m having trouble already!

        Where were you when he told “Joe the Plumber” that he was going to “share the wealth” with those who are too freaking lazy to work?

        My first fearful realization of what was to come in this country was the Black Panthers guarding the doors to the voting precincts in 2008, and those thugs were found not guilty of any charges…not even for voter intimidation! (If I’d done that, I would’ve been hanged on the spot!) One of them wants to kill all “whities” & all the “whitey babies”!

        Where were you when O’Dumbo told us that he was going to “create a private army more powerful & better equipped than our military”? If that doesn’t create suspicion, then you are either stupid or dead! And NOW they’re training children & others to be the criminal thugs THEY are! How is that different than the Muslims indoctrinating their children to hate Israel & the US & teaching them to kill anyone who doesn’t agree with them?

        Is this part of the training of O’Dumbo’s military force or has his “private army”(like Hitler’s that Spectre mentioned) already been trained? He has the Secret Service to protect him & our Military to protect & defend the country & the Constitution. So, I can’t think of one reason that the POTUS would NEED a private army unless it’s to confiscate our weapons, put all of those who disagree with him in prison camps, to disarm our military who mostly disagree with the president’s agenda or maybe to eliminate the 2012 elections all together so he can take over as our Dictator-in-Chief & proceed with his agenda of the NWO without resistance from all us “anti-Americans”?

        YOUR president has almost succeeded in destroying the REAL America to turn it into everything UN-American! You need to get your head out of your butt & start researching the difference between true Patriots & the REAL “anti-Americans”!

  • Duke

    Why is the “supreeeeeem court” not doing something about this PROVEN imposter in the white/black house?????

    • Bruce

      Duke, the SC, has no power the legal power is in the DOJ not the SC. Please wake up.

    • well iLL tell ya

      Barry O has appointed enough JUDGES as to subdue any transgressions again his policies

  • Bruce

    I don’t think you all are getting the picture as clearly as you should on the issue of Gibson Guitar’s.
    Keep in mind Obama stated he was comeing home early from his holiday to speak about jobs, yet his thugs are working on tossing Gibson out of the US.
    So whats that mean, its simple thats about 1500 jobs that will be lost if Gibson leaves the US, and thats just Gibson what about Fender what about Gretch what about Paul Reed Smith what about your job.

    But thats just the tip of this spear. As these Thugs are ” green police” who are after the wood used by Gibson, how can you not grasp that its not just Guitars they are after.
    Wood is in everything like your Tables, Chairs, Beds, your Home!
    Can you not make the connections, what are you missing with these actions, its not even slightly funny as in there is nothing to smile about nor LOL nor anything you all should be flaming hot Pissed Off.

    What will you do when your neighbor turns you in for that old Antique Cabinet that your Grandmother left you?
    How will you deal with it being stolen straight out of your home?

    How will you deal with your familys fears when Combat trained SWAT Troops come into your home with Machineguns and hold your family against a wall, while being bound with plastic tie strings on their feet and hands? As these Swat Troops search your home for “anything” they deem illegal.

    Are you getting the picture yet?

    If you don’t wake up soon and wake up your freinds and family you will have lost, hell we all will have lost.

    Did you work your ass off to become a criminal for buying a product, or having an Antique handed down from your family?

    How about when the Globlist want your 401K and your bank accounts?

    How about when they feel that your home is in the way of what they want or need?

    How about when they dicide that your employer is a hindrance to their game and your loose your job? Can you all not see this the next step?

    What will it take to get a fire under your butt?

    How about when you wake up in the middle of the night to combat trained SWAT police taking you off to jail for alledged treason for being on this sight? Will that wake you up?

    You figure out what it will take to get that fire under your butt.

    • Karolyn

      The Gibson issue is an international issue. They will have a chance to prove the legality of their rosewood. The Lacey Act is 100 years old, and is there for a reason. If businesses were allowed to do whatever they wanted to without some regulation, they would dry up everything. It’s just like ivory. Even with stiff international regulations, elephants are still being slaughtered for their tusks.

      I do not support raiding the company and shutting it down, however.

      • JLC

        Karolyn — Gibson doesn’t have to prove that their wood is legal! The government must prove that it is ILLEGAL. Innocent until proven guilty, remember? Incidentally, I own a Gibson classic guitar that is older than I am, and I have lived under 15 presidents. Correction: 14 and an impostor. The Gibson is a fine instrument. I can’t say the same for the president (?)

        • Palin12

          Very nice, JLC. I have a Rickenbacher.

          • JLC

            Hi, Palin 12. I have no personal experience with a Rickenbacher, but I have heard nothing but good about them. I also have a Stella classic design 12-string. It is not the guitar that the Gibson is, but the cloggers love to hear me tie a knot in the Devil’s tail with it!

          • Bruce

            Palin and JLC, We use a massive amount of guitars in our business, at each studio we have about 50 guitars and 20 bass guitars plus drums, 40 plus amps, you name it we have at least one and in most cases many.

            They are the TOOLS of the TRADE, I work with our investments as in making the 401Ks grow but I do play guitar and I have 5 of them, two Gibsons a 1998 Les Paul Std. Murphy made custom shop & a Blonde 1959 ES 335 a 1958 Fender Strat, and a 1966 Rick 12 string just like George Harisons, a 1988 Paul Reed Smith Custom 24 in amber with brids.

      • ValDM

        The DOJ came in to Gibson Guitar & took their entire supply of wood, not just the rosewood. Incidentally, Gibson bought these imported woods LEGALLY & paid the import duties. Also, when Gibson officials told the DOJ that the DOJ was effectively putting them out of business, they were told by DOJ that Gibson could still be in business by taking said business across the pond to Madagascar & using LOCAL labor. Still think ou guv means no harm? Still think this pretty poor excuse for a leader has a jobs plan? Yeah, a jobs plan to make sure no American works again.

        • s c

          ValDM, you brought up some good points. If we lived in a common sense world (and an ethical America), every guitar maker in America would rush to the aid of Gibson and tell them that this isn’t merely a matter of being SCREWED by a ‘poor leader.’ What the Washington false gods need to be told (via press releases TV time and radio time, lawsuits and the hounding of Congress until THEY get involved) is the idea that if this prez, this ‘leader,’ this wannabe fuhrer wants to act like a fuhrer, then he’ll be treated like one.
          And, to borrow some pet words from the ultraliberalleft progressive schizophrenics, this is proof that this administration is sick, it is beyond mean-spirited, and it also has NO intentions of helping ANY of America’s businesses unless they’ve already sold out to a twisted herd of damned, anti-American, freedom-hating Nazis in Washington.

      • Bruce

        Karolyn, You can’t seem to grasp the gravity of this issue, therefore I can only extrapolate that you feel most comfortable in an extremely small box. Why is that?
        If you truly had any idea what your talking about then your post to my post would not even be here.

        On that note Let me be kind enough to explain this to you in the most simple format.

        (When you buy a product out of the US, and its imported into the US,) it has to first pass through whats called “Customs,” that implys that its not only a {valid item / items} but as well the
        “Government has approved” of its import.
        As well the Government has also taken its “TAX” on said import of what is also noted “based on the noted products value and content.” Can you follow that?

        Next is the fact that all imports have to be be “inspected” by the {DEA, and BATF}, thats now twice these same items have been inspected by the Federal Government.

        But wait there is still step #3, Thats when these same items get placed on scale to inspect noted items for anything thats possible to be hidden within noted stock.
        As noted stock has a weight value per size and content. Thus if its off by even a single ounce its inspected yet again for any possible drugs, or other illegal items contained within.
        Still following that Karolyn?

        As well “Customs” has a {list of what can and can’t be imported} that they as in the US Customs officials as well the DEA and the BATF check off before the said items can be released to whom ever has acquired said items. Can you grasp that? That means that the said item / items have been inspected no less than 5 times. Oh and as the Dock Wokers are Union there is also the the Union check list too!

        But Next is the real nail in this coffin,
        “The Federal Government has issued Gibson a letter” stating the following,
        {If they so wish to keep making guitars all these problems they now face will go away if they move their company out of the United states of America.}

        Now Karolyn, what possible rhetoric can you toss out to sustain your point again?
        There simple is nothing you can say, this is a clear cut case of “Federal ruthless aggression” against an American based Company for no other reason than to move them out of this country or be punished for staying.

        Can you not learn from others who know far more than you do?
        As in people who do import and export etc.?

        • Karolyn

          Well, according to the account I read, Gibson has nothing to worry about anyway, since they say they have all the necessary documentation indicating that their wood is from India.

          Of course, I’m sure you will love me citing NPR! :-)

          • Bruce

            Karolyn, Perhaps you missed all the points I made.

            NPR is also bound by the AP rules of news distribution, as in “all news” they report is “censored / filtered” by the AP before you even get to hear it.

            A quick question for you, do you know who owns the AP?

            As clearly pointed out by a poster JLC the (laws according to whats alledged to be the law based on the Bill of Rights and Constitution,) states that ((“you are Innocent until proven guilty.”))
            (No illegal search nore seizure can occur under your 4th Amendment rights.)

            Lets be real guitar luthers are not a real bad boy crowd, AKA not big into beating people up etc. most are so laied back they seem like they are sleeping most of the time.
            So why all the Body Armor and Swat teams with Machineguns?

            Why the need to use plastic ties on their legs and hands behind thier backs, shoved up against the walls on the outside of the buildings in the parking lots?

            Why take all of the wood stocks from the Gibson Company? Let alone their computers, their paper files, by doing all these things they are in effect shuting down the Gibson company?

            How much money do you think Gibson will loose per day?
            Per week?
            Per Month?
            Per year?
            If you don’t have base materials what will you build?
            What will you sell?
            How will you pay your loans?
            What will you pay your staff with?
            How will you pay your laywers to defend you in court?

            Now I come back to the letter from the DOJ, to Gibson telling them to “get out of the United states” {if they want all the problems to go away.} How simple can I make that?

          • Karolyn

            Bruce – Of course I don’t agree with heavy-handed tactics. That is totally ridiculous and unacceptable. As far as NPR goes, it’s about as fair and balanced as you will get. The information I glean from the broadcasts is all via interviews, with phone calls also taken from dissenting listeners. It is definitely not all one-sided like some media.

          • Michael J.

            If I understand completely the stand being made by Eric Holder’s Department of Justice as it pertains to Gibson’s imported wood and the implication that it is in this country illegally VIA the Lacey Act because the wood was not finished by indigenous Madigascar artisans.

            Then I believe the Lacey Act should be brought to bear in the case of Obama being in this country illegally and the task of impeaching him should be finished by the indigenous Kenyan Congress of the country of Kenya from which he came.

      • Scott

        The Lacey act was amended in 2009, incidentally the first time Gibson was raided, to include wood products. My question is, if this is so important why not go after the actual poachers they are still profiting off of their illegal acts and even if the illegal products are siezed somewhere down the supply chain the wood, animals have already been harvested and the damage done. Of course the poachers will always find a market for their products, like say China, who has no problem ripping off pantents and copyright protections.

      • Ferrari Bubba

        Hey Karolyn: Holder’s Gestapo raid on Gibson Guitars was because they are non-union, while Martin, which uses the same wood from the same supplier, and NOT raided, is a union shop. A little union payback for election support. Make sense? — Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba

        • independent thinker

          “Holder’s Gestapo raid on Gibson Guitars was because they are non-union, while Martin, which uses the same wood from the same supplier, and NOT raided, is a union shop.”

          Didn’t know that. It makes sense though.

    • Scott

      Right on Bruce, I just hope people realize it’s not as easy as tossing out the current POTUS; Both D and R are bent on grabbing power and destroying personal liberties. Too many simpletons have no problem with these moves, they cheer them on, as long as it’s their team doing the grabbing. Hmmm…let’s see, who brought us the DHS and the Patriot Act.

    • John Galt

      Has Bill Gates house been checked? I read somewhere that many rare species of woods were used in its construction.
      In my seventy odd years, there has never been a President who has divided the people so greatly, nor a congress that has so blatantly ignored their constituents.

      • Scott

        I was thinking the same thing. How many globalists have houses with entire rooms paneled in rosewood and mahogany.

        • http://deleted Claire

          LOL–I don’t have rosewood nor mahoghany paneled rooms but I do have a blue bedroom, a green bedroom and a brown bedroom–and guess what? There are two condo-size dog crates in each bedroom. And now I have added a little puppy girl–a daughter of my male champion.
          Everyone that knows me will attest to this fact–I will keep my dogs. The fancy stuff doesn’t flip my cork. As long as my house is clean and my dogs are clean that is all that matters. Besides, I enjoy showing them and winning. And they have a great life.

    • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

      I am wondering when books will be declared illegal, since they are printed on paper usually made from wood.

      Bring back book-burning, and then arrest the burners for CO2 pollution!!

  • http://gunner689 gunner689

    I hear that Rosie the Pig is getting a new TV show. Let BO sell his swill there; he’d find his most ardent supporters in the audience.


      And just think, Oprah can pay for both of them to blame Bush and prove everyday what their real prioroties are. Go Oprah!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      I still say he would fit right in with the suspendered fat prog on Fox’s The Five!!!! every time I hear that fat@#$% speak, I’m glad I sit clear accross the room from the TV with nothing to throw!!

  • http://oboma ruffus

    im glad to see people wakeing up to this fraud.Ron Paul can and will save our republic,keep fighting for him(peacefully)

    • JimRed

      Who was it that said “fighting for peace is like f*****g for chastity”?

  • robt shrugged

    when you have an uneducated populace (education in the schools disappeared in the sixties ). dumbing down the populace arrived seventies with the unionization of the schools and the take over of the government by the liberals. the seed of this all started with FDR. He was a socialist leaning communist. when you make a person like that an idol you have lost the focus of the problem because you can not bear to see your false idol crash to the ground, and will not do nor say anything to cause the truth to be seen. I am objective and the republicans will not stand up and call a spade a spade. they will only try to be nice to their advisaries. that is why they keep losing in the elections. Reagan was one of the few who would say the truth, but he would not press on any futher.

  • robt shrugged

    ron paul could do a little, but he would fail because he is a one issue person and will follow the liberals down the yellow brick road with his eyes blinded to the real devistation that lurks ahead. He has awakened some to the fiasco of paper dollars, but the debt will still grow under him.

    • John Galt

      You obviously don’t know Ron Paul very well. He is quite well rounded in the U.S. Constitution, and is just the person who might be able to return the country to the founding principles and prosperity. Personally, I would like to see him head the ticket with Gary Johnson as VP. It would appear that Rick Perry is becoming the front runner, and although I would vote for him, I think he would only slow the pace we are traveling while not changing the direction. We need a ticket with candidates who are not indebted to large contributors, unions, banks, corporations, etc.

      • Jan De Capua


      • Gloria

        Ron Paul wants to give my job to an illegal allien. Nothing can redeam him to me.

  • Gary

    The thing to remember about the Gibson Guitar raid the DOJ is responsible for. The CEO of Gibson supported McCain in the last election. The raid, which is one of a number that have been conducted on them, is payback for the temerity of opposing the Godfather of the Unions. Wait for the SEIU lead protests at Gibson.

    • Jan


  • CJM

    I’m so tired of this lying rabble I have no intention of listening to him regardless of what time of day or night he plans to “speak.” IF Congress had a backbone instead of that wide yellow streak running down their backs, we would not even be insulted with the liar in chief’s presense in our government because he would have been impeached, arrested, and tried for his criminal activities along with his insurgent czars.

    • http://deleted Claire

      All politicians lie.

      • JLC

        Claire — Well, about 99% of them do. It appears to be a part of the job description!

        • http://deleted Claire

          JLC–It is really pathetic to know I cannot trust any of them or believe one word of what they say. I have tried to be objective about both parties, including the tea parties but it just doesn’t cut the mustard with me. Not anymore. They all have backers, and the backers want to rule the world. The backers are the ones that make me madder than hell. Think about it.

          • http://deleted Claire

            I wish to add: the backers and THEIR motives.

      • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

        Not so. Many 3rd party politicians are honest personally and politically, but are snowed under by the dishonest major parties.

  • Paul

    If Obama is re-elected I will move to another country.


      I have said the same thing myself…where could we go?

      • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

        The gay troops will be massed at the borders to prevent you fleeing! Watch for it!

    • John Galt

      I did so when Clinton was re-elected, thankfully, as Bush was incapable of holding back a Democrat controlled congress, and in the end became a tool which allowed Obama to become elected President.

    • Jimbayala

      Paul: How can I help you move. I can afford (my tax dollars pay for it) to send you to fight in Iraq or would you prefer Afghanistan, if your a true patriot, although I think you are a coward, because you are not there, but like I said I can get you a gun and send you on your way.

      • Jay

        Why aren’t you there, Jimbo?

  • Dr. Weldon Bowling

    To Paul and CE – wanting to move – Go ahead and do it. The country will probably be better off without you.

    • http://deleted Claire

      By crikey, I will not move, ever. I will stick this out and fight for what I believe is correct and just. I will not give in, I am at an age where I do not have to put up with any more crap. I am tired of it. It is way past time for these so-called political airheads to do their jobs and conduct themselves accordingly. I apologize for my ranting today, but enough is enouogh. When will they ever learn? When we are all dead and gone? When America is in total ruins?

      • Kate8

        Claire – It is the plan of the elite to squeeze us until we are all homeless, penniless, starving and sick. Then we will beg them to step in and save us.

        We should be acting now, to stop purchasing ANY of their commercial products. We should be becoming self-sufficient, learning to barter (though that is now illegal), growing our own food, learning to live off the grid…whatever it takes and no matter how meagerly we have to live. It’s going to happen, anyway. We might at least take control of it ourselves, before it is thrust upon us.

        Ignore their stupid laws which infringe on our natural right to clean air, pure water and healthy food (as with Codex). Refuse forced healthcare, and anything else they try to ram down our throats.

        Here is a wonderful video about where we stand today, and what we need to do. It’s called “The Calling”, by Max Igan.

    • Buster the Anatolian

      I have no intention of moving either and when you come for me to put me in your re-education camp you can expect a bullet between the eyes.

  • http://deleted Claire

    I received an email from a friend-this is what he sent:

    Salary for a Retired President — $180,000.00 For Life
    Salary for Retired House/Senate — $ 174,000.00 For Life
    Slaary for Retired Speaker of the House — $ 223,500.00 For Life
    Salary for Majpority/Minority leaders — $ 193,000.00 For Life

    Salary for a soldier deployed in Afghanistan — $ 38,000.00

    Now I ask all of you–what is wrong with this picture?

    • Scott

      Add to that te salary of a U.S. paid mercenary in Afghanistan $300,000.

      • Karolyn

        Yeah, what about the Defense Department’s waste and lost money over there? It truly is immoral!

        • Scott

          And when they say between 31 and 62 BILLION it gives me pause. Sorta like it could be 2x or 5x that amount.
          But hey, war is the most profitable business in the world and bankers love it more than bailouts because they loan everybody involved money to fight and destroy everything, and then loan them some more to rebuild and restock. And somehow profiting off the blood and sacrifice of our soldiers is patriotic. What a perversion of American values.

          • http://deleted Claire

            As I have posted before, when I was a child, I can remember my Mother and my Grandmother saying that war was created for the economy. It backfired this time, didn’t it?! All the contractors, companies, etc. that provided materials took America for a ride. Literally. They all fleeced America and the American taxpayer. My taxpaying dollars paid for this sham. My taxpaying dollars went down the tubes. I resent the loss of our American soldiers’ lives even more. Do you honestly think/believe a change in political parties will make any difference? I sure as hell don’t. They are one and the same, they just go about it in different ways. We have a POTUS that doesn’t have the backbone of a snail, and he lives in a dream world because he always gives in to the Republicans. The Republicans are thinking of one thing–to win the election in 2012. None of them will work together to solve America’s problems–it is “party” this and “party” that. I find the entire situation appalling. I will consider Ron Paul–especially since there is not one single candidate–Democrat or Republican–that has the common sense and moral decency to do what is correct.

          • Another Voice

            Claire is right. War is waged for economy. But it has been backfiring ever since Vietnam. Our chickens are coming home to roost now. Bankruptcy.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Another Voice,
            Actually, the economy during VietNam was fairly good. This was because we had all those flower children that refused to work! Now they run the nation and still don’t really work!!

        • Top 73rd

          Waste, fraud and abuse are all too common in all levels of government, including the public education system, labor unions and many businesses. Honor, duty, Country are no longer valued by far to many citizens in the US.

    • John Galt

      How can we continue to fund the retired politicians if we continue to pay our soldiers so lavishly?
      Harry S. Truman and his wife Bess drove their own car home after leaving office, with no pension except for his military pension, until years later when Congress acted, providing a small annual pension for retired Presidents.

      Truman used to claim “The buck stops here” while Obama appears to have his aides look for someone to give the buck to, or at least keep it moving.

      • http://?? Joe H.


    • Jan


    • Kate8

      Claire – They shouldn’t even be getting pensions at all! Serving in Congress was supposed to be an honor and a privilege and, after serving a specified term, they were to go back to civilian life.

      Especially considering that, while in office, they have all completely sold out themselves and us, too, in order to become multi-million (or even billion-)aires. They are already set for the elite lifestyle at our expense.

      Where else does anyone get to decide how much money he gets to extract from the ones footing the bill.

      The criminality of these jerks is astounding.

      • http://deleted Claire

        Kate8–Yes they all have sold us out. I have listened and listened to these candidates. I am going to the next town hall meeting here in town, regardless if it is Democrat or Republican. And I will certainly throw the questions at them. And I will gather all the people I know and we will go in a group. This is what needs to be done.

        • Kate8

          Claire – By all means, go in a group. There is strength in numbers.

          I’ve gone to most of the townhalls given by my Congressman in my area. Expect them, whichever side they are on, to be evasive. They are very careful about what they say. There are things they will refuse to address.

          Remember, they are there, not to hear what we have to say, but to sell us on their lies.

        • OB1

          Yes Clair, please go as a group.

    • http://deleted Claire

      Gee, forgive my typos.

    • http://aol nancy says

      Salaries of government are to high, they should be lower, All military should be higher, who protect United
      States of AMerica. THe reason government get higher pays, because they give themself raises when
      they feel it is needed.

  • Rob

    Can I just say, as a Vet and a Ron Paul supporter, Ron may not be perfect, but I think or would like to think that America would attempt to change those in the political scene in Washington.

    Remember, the definition of stupidity (political party sheeple to me) is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.!! This is where our political system has been the past few decades, the two parties of the one political party system in America.

    The Dem and Repub’s keep it that way because of the same agenda and being scared of a 3rd party man like Ron Paul.

    I hope America will put Paul in the White House, a long shot I know, but even if he gets there and “gets all crazy by being honest and America first thinking”, there will still be enough of the Establishment ONE PARTY (of the 2 groups Dem’s and Repubs), to keep him “in check”.

    I think its about time we actually had the opportunity for an America first, Isolationist, HONEST, EDUCATED, AMERICA CARING (not self grandizing, self serving) INDIVIDUAL in the White House for a change.

    • John Galt

      While Ron Paul is someone who I know would put America first, I don’t think it fair or accurate to call him an isolationist.

      • OB1

        I agree. ‘m still researching it: Fron

        (Also researching other sources. This is a start at least.

        National Defense


        “Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country.” – Ronald Reagan

        As an Air Force veteran, Ron Paul believes national defense is the single most important responsibility the Constitution entrusts to the federal government.

        In Congress, Ron Paul voted to authorize military force to hunt down Osama bin Laden and authored legislation to specifically target terrorist leaders and bring them to justice.

        Today, however, hundreds of thousands of our fighting men and women have been stretched thin all across the globe in over 135 countries – often without a clear mission, any sense of what defines victory, or the knowledge of when they’ll be permanently reunited with their families.

        Acting as the world’s policeman and nation-building weakens our country, puts our troops in harm’s way, and sends precious resources to other nations in the midst of an historic economic crisis.

        Taxpayers are forced to spend billions of dollars each year to protect the borders of other countries, while Washington refuses to deal with our own border security needs.

        Congress has been rendered virtually irrelevant in foreign policy decisions and regularly cedes authority to an executive branch that refuses to be held accountable for its actions.

        Far from defeating the enemy, our current policies provide incentive for more to take up arms against us.

        That’s why, as Commander-in-Chief, Dr. Paul will lead the fight to:

        * Make securing our borders the top national security priority.

        * Avoid long and expensive land wars that bankrupt our country by using constitutional means to capture or kill terrorist leaders who helped attack the U.S. and continue to plot further attacks.

        * Guarantee our intelligence community’s efforts are directed toward legitimate threats and not spying on innocent Americans through unconstitutional power grabs like the Patriot Act.

        * End the nation-building that is draining troop morale, increasing our debt, and sacrificing lives with no end in sight.

        * Follow the Constitution by asking Congress to declare war before one is waged.

        * Only send our military into conflict with a clear mission and all the tools they need to complete the job – and then bring them home.

        * Ensure our veterans receive the care, benefits, and honors they have earned when they return.

        * Revitalize the military for the 21st century by eliminating waste in a trillion-dollar military budget.

        * Prevent the TSA from forcing Americans to either be groped or ogled just to travel on an airplane and ultimately abolish the unconstitutional agency.

        * Stop taking money from the middle class and the poor to give to rich dictators through foreign aid.

        As President, Ron Paul’s national defense policy will ensure that the greatest nation in human history is strong, secure, and respected.

  • William Heaster

    Your comments rules are not of fair speach against all rights to free speach. If you don’t allow people to speak the truth their way why do you have this program. The way I see it, you are only allowing what you percive as your truth and not the real truth that the people wish to convey the way they see it. Your site has no root cause for the truth.

    • s c

      Willy, are you aiming your remarks at Ben Crystal or Bob Livingston? It’s hard to tell for certain. Moreover, if you’re bound and determined to talk about “free speech” on this website, you might do yourself a huge, obligatory and self-respecting favor and learn to correctly spell “SPEECH.”
      If you’re not a starry-eyed, mind-addled, head stuck up the rump ultraliberal progressive, you certainly do SOUND like one. By the way, are you AFRAID of free speech?

  • EWH


    • Jan

      htt.– embedded


  • robt shrugged

    the places to go if you want to go to another country is switzerland, isreal, austrail, ireland, iceland.

    • Kate8

      robt – The elites are heading for South America.

      What does that tell you?

    • Palin12

      I’ve been to Iceland twice, 10 days and 8 days. Beautiful scenery and friendly people.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Sorry, The United States of America, My country right or wrong!!! I’ve been to over 14 different other countries and I’ll still take the the USA! I love this country and I will defend her. We will change NOTHING by leaving! God Bless America…Again!!!

        • Kate8

          Joe H. – That’s what my dad used to always say, “my country, right or wrong”. Especially when I’d get on my soapbox in protest of Viet Nam.

        • Palin12

          I hope you know I was talking in the sense of vacation spots. I’m not moving anywhere. I am very concerned though if Perry gets the GOP nomination. He’s kind of like Obama-lite. Soft on the illegals and he’s against putting up the wall. Have a great holiday!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            I think I know you well enough by now to know that!! I was saying that for the benefit of the pencil necked progs here!! Don’t worry, you I have no qualms about!

  • GotUrRootRightHerePal

    @William Heaster — Oh!! So you mean like ANYONE that disagrees with Nobama isn’t entitled to an opinion because he/she is labeled a racist, a bigot, part of a lynch mob, and wants all black people hanging from trees? Is that the kind of fair speech you are advocating? This site is satire, pure and simple, but based in the idiocies of this current regime. You want a basis for truth? Quit sucking on the media’s hind tit and open your eyes! And besides…if you don’t like what you see here, move on while the internet is still free to roam. There are plenty of liberal douche bag sites in which your opinion might be held accountable…

    • William New Mexico

      Don’t know what you call yourself, but you are not an American.

      • http://peronalliberty Kevin

        billy boy: you sir sould like an American Liberal Progressive twit! for you to critisize him is to show just how progressives like to twist and spin everything to there liking! remember hate is one of the 7 deadly sins!

      • dlsimm

        To be an American…you have to have a vaild birth certicate.

      • dlsimm

        Do you believe in the U.S. Constitution?

        Patriotic “Americans” have read it….or can you read?

        • http://?? Joe H.

          If he can’t find a copy of it, he can go to and they will give him a free pocket sized copy of it with any order. At least they used to!! course, like you said, he has to have the ABILITY to read it and he has to care for it to make a difference!!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Ears and eyes wide open,I am reading with anticipation your definition of what an American is.

    • moonbeam

      “Quit sucking on the media’s hind tit”

      Now, THAT’S fUnNyyyyy! Okay, DaveH, somebody, come and help me off the floor. Laughing so hard I can’t get up. Good gut buster that one. Now I’ll be gigglin’ for the next three days and it’s YOUR fault GotUrRootRightHerePal

      That’s how long it takes me to get over something that slammed me right in the good old funny bone. Three days of out of nowhere laughter. It gets embarrassing and people think I’m crazy but I love it!

      Oh, every time I think of it…………

      • OB1

        Me too! Gottalove it! Ben Chrystal is getting sooo much better! I could be giving a presention, and…then the humor…just comes up out of nowhere! I can’t help myself! I swear it’s my faith and sense of humor that has been my greatest asset right now! Gold and silver cannot “buy” that!

  • James Branch


    • Karolyn

      Yeah, keep saying that, and we will surely be there! Don’t you realize that is why the economy is so bad? Fear is keeping everyone immobile! People are afraid to invest; companies are afraid to hire; nobody wants to take a risk. That is what this country is built on – RISK! That’s right, everybody, cower in the corner; hold onto every penny; don’t contribute to the economy; spread those rumors; take everything your favorite pundit says as gospel; keep things the way they are!

      • Jay

        Karolyn, fear?, is keeping the economy from growing? According to your logic, love and happiness, and not industry, will make to economy boom? Now i see the connection between you, and barry. Now that explains everything!

        • Karolyn

          Jay – Many companies are not increasing their hiring and manufacturing because they are afraid they won’t be able to sell what they make. Well, if nobody’s hiring and increasing manufacturing, there are less people to buy. It’s just a never-ending cycle. Somebody has to break out of it. I have heard many economists saying that if the government would just put the deficit on a back burner and concentrate on getting people to work, the economy would pick up. The budget and deficit are things that can be taken up later. Right now we need to get people to work. I also have heard that manufacturing and health care are two of the best sectors for work, and they are having a hard time finding qualified workers. Of course, you will scoff at the fact that I’ve heard these things on TV and the radio. However, the sources (experts) are legitimate.

          Fear is a motivating factor in this slow economy. It’s only logical. And then, when people read so much of the BS coming from the Conservatives/Republicans/Tea Pary, it scares them even more, so all they want to do is hoard. I just find it distressing that Americans, so known for bravery are too afraid to put their money where their mouths are and take the risks that helped to make this country. If I had it, I sure would! I do my part and also give to charity, which is also suffering.

          And then when you have a Palin-backed Republican governor like we do, who hires young inexperienced campaign workers for big bucks and then complains that SC is broke and takes it out on the “little people,” here we don’t stand a chance.

          And go ahead everybody and denigrate me all you want if it makes you feel better. I could care less.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Karolyn–We all have the freedom of expressing our opinions. It is just a shame that we all can’t agree and make this government and the airheads do what they are supposed to do. There is safety/impact in numbers–I am not an instigator but I truly think that we should all join hands and make a march on DC–regardless of loyalty to any party, and give all elected politicians an ultimatum. It is time for them to stop the crap and get down to serious business, not political business.

          • OB1

            Karolyn, nobody is denigrating you. What would be the rational and logical reason for that? Many of us read, work in society and learn from speaking and listening to others, even those with different thoughts and opinions. That is how a Republic works. We have relationships, we interact, we do our jobs, career, family work, community service, and soooooo much more. Many people like this site because for now we can ask questions, get responses, learn and filetr information which usually requires reading more. The “good”is when we learn and communicate. Many people see that that freedom is very effectively being hindered and shut down. I don’t really know if you are a paid troll, as I have come across the best of them. Most conservative constitution God-loving American are compassionate to a fault. You defend evil at every turn. You totally take advantage of people who you will never know trying to help you ar help you gain information to form your own personal viewpoints based on knowledge. You are either very frightened or a paid troll. Yes, I listen to NPR too. Juan Williams. That’s all I have to say about that.
            Even after that crisis, they are all still stuck in “the appropriate dissemination of information that insures the next paycheck”. I speak from experience on this one….

          • Song

            Excellent commentary OB1. Karolyn is kind of like a brick wall. She thinks that she is the only compassionate, feeling, optimistic, person on this site and makes every effort to let everyone (continuously) know that.

          • Karolyn

            There’s that same old “song.” :-)

          • Buster the Anatolian

            karolyn, I tried that super optamism thing for the first two years of o-ham-a’s term and it got me nothing.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            gee karolyn,
            I live just outside Cleveland Ohio and our newspaper had about 15 manufacturing jobs in it. All but two wanted over five years experience and the other two were minimum wage! didn’t you hear the job report for AUGUST???? Zero new jobs created! ZERO!!! Hasn’t happened since near the end of the great depression! We need at least 45,000 new jobs just to keep up with the kids entering the work force for the first time!! 100,000 per month will just start to put a dent in the unemployment rate!!! Zero? We’re SCREWED, BLEWED, and TATOOED!!!

          • OB1

            Logging off. “Same Old Song”: thought you might like it (I do!):
            Bless you Ben:


            Karolyn, take your shoes off!

      • Scott

        I agree 100%. I remeber after 9-11 our president told us to head to the mall and go shopping and ended his administration with, “we have to abandon free market principles to save the free market” and handed out a trillion dollars to businesses who were “too big to fail”. Hey I got a degree in Economics and I don’t remember studying that theory. Although a lot of smaller banks did go under and I think it became clear to small business that the playing field is very unlevel and the govt. will gladly help out their larger competitors while screwing them into the ground. I think mant want a guarantee of success before investing and like you said one must be willing to take a risk if they expect to see any reward.

      • Marty S.

        Maybe we all should form a circle around the Whitehouse and sing kumbaya to distract Barry long enough to allow the economy time to heal on its own without any new help from him and his minions.

        • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

          …and manage to trip over his Teleprompter cables each time. Keep his speeches and executive orders to a minimum.

  • William New Mexico

    Don’t let the door hit you in the ass. We don’t need any of you who want to move to another country.

  • s c

    Keep at it, Willy. You’re getting funnier and digging that hole deeper every time you say something. In the words of one of your great role models, “Resist we much.” OOOOweeeeee!

  • Vic Landry

    I’ve got a five gallon bucket under my spare TV to catch the BS he produces while I watch the football game. My flowers need fertilizing.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Watch it Vic, too much will kill them!! He spreads enough to export it to China!!

  • Palin12

    Memo to Obummer: repeal Obamacare and the unemployment picture will improve immediately. Steve Wynn, owner and CEO of Wynn resorts in Las Vegas, has stated that he voted for Obummer in 2008, but after passage of Obamacare he will not hire any new bodies because of the increased costs and regulations.

  • Phil

    This President has been the most disrespected. Main reason being the color of his skin. We the people should elect Palin and let see what miracle she would perform within 2 years of her presidency.

    • Karolyn

      OMG! Please! I wouldn’t wish that on any country!

    • Palin12

      Ah yes, the race card again. It’s not the color of his skin (he’s half-white, isn’t he?), it’s his bad policies and the idiots he’s surrounded himself with. Hillary would have been even worse.

    • Jay

      Phil, she would never make it. She would either sell out, like all the rest of them, left and right, or she would be dead within two weeks! What we call the “Government”, is nothing more then well payed “Thugs/Criminals”, every last one of them, including the brown bomber, joker hut, barry! Is it any wonder that there is no justice coming from Casablanca, but only criminal activity!

      • Karolyn

        Palin is making way too much money to take a demotion to President. BTW, what the hell is she speaking about in South Korea?

        • OB1

          Good try. No response.

        • Palin12

          Sarah’s not making nearly as much money as that Bozo from the Ozone, Al Gore. I hear close to a $ Billion.

          • Michael J.

            Palin 12,
            Al Gore was and is the perfect pitch man for Global Warming. I mean who could resist the temptation of using a baby huey like figure with great name recognition and nuthin between the ears but air as the poster boy to promote their bid to bilk the planets sheeple out of trillions in tax money to repay the sin of burning fossil fuels.

            However, even a bumbling buffoon like Al must have at some point questioned the elites as follows: But Mr. Rothschild, global warming has not been scientifically proven to be true. To wit Mr. Rothschild’s reply would have been: Don’t worry Al, when the HAARP weapon comes online, we’ll make it true and you’ll become one of us. Al made that decision in a nano second without ever even looking back at that two bit tobacco farm on that Tennessee two lane.

        • Michael J.

          Karolyn said:
          “Palin is making way too much money to take a demotion to President”
          That’s a well worn liberal talking point Karolyn, can’t you find some new material?

    • moonbeam

      Phil, the color of his skin has nothing to do with it, but his actions have EVERYTHING to do with it. He’s a lying, cheating, law breaking BS’er. A boil on the ass of America.

  • chuckb

    the only defense the bolsheviks have is the race card, we are not supposed to notice he’s black. we are to turn our heads and blame bush for everything happening.
    the fear of palin has them in a dither, why? they have no idea except the media has indoctrinated their little thought waves and i mean little. they forget their vote went for barry and they have wished him on our country. now you can say omg what have i done i wouldn’t wish him on any country.

    • moonbeam

      “wouldn’t wish him on any country.”

      Sure we would. Wish him back to Kenya from whence he came (and was born).


      Here’s what I want to hear from Ron Paul:

      “If I am elected president, I guarantee you a FULL investigation into the present administration beginning my first day in office. You can count on it and I give you my word I will do this!”

      • OB1

        He can’t, It would start violence. Patience is required at this point, tough as it is….plus, preparedness.

        • Michael J.

          Sorry to say so but, at this point the eventuality of violence is inevitable. Our nation and the world for that matter has become like and over inflated balloon coming to rest on a forest of standing sewing needles. I’m afraid it’s just a matter of time.

          • OB1

            Michael J. there is soooo much chatter out in our communities and the blogosphere, that I perceive that people have become discouraged….and somewhat hopeless. Discouragement has always been the greatest tool of the real enemy. The desperation is see is tangible…good time to chop wood, carry water. And strengthen the things that remain. Yes, it is affecting me and my entire family. Also my customers. What good are we to anyone if we succumb to the onslaught of the “fear”? Do you not think you parent, your grandparents as well as our ancestors knew this?
            History (His Story?) There really is nothing new under the sun. Even though I post questions, or things that I read and research does not mean I have allowed these things to replace my faith and my life. Does it make me challenge and re-consider the things I am doing? Sometimes. I would suggest you order C.S. Lewis’s:


            C.S. Lewis was amazing. I really don’t quite know what to say. Hope comes by faith in what really is coming and what will be. Mkae the best use of your time. And that, IS a message for me as well.

          • Michael J.

            Don’t worry, at my house we hope for the best while preparing for the worst. Go to work each day then come home to work on self sustainability. Getting off the grid as they say. We have become farmers and canners, raise chickens and make our own fuel from wood for burning in internal combustion engines. Don’t have much money for buying precious metals like gold and silver but have plenty of lead. Right now we are drilling a well, 2 inch galvanized pipe driven into the ground by the repetitious dropping of a homemade 150 pound hammer hoisted by an improvised winch. An old truck with rear differential jacked-up, wheels removed, two tire rims without tires welded together forms the pulley. They are welded together to offset the outer rim from the truck body which allows clearance for the rope which hoists the hammer via wooden tripod and block and tackle.

            We will not sit around waiting for what will be, but are instead taking charge of our own destiny as did our ancestors when they first landed on the shores of this continent in 1680.

            Though the American people have been lied to, Americans are real and the dream is still alive reguardless of the sea of coruption we are now floundering in. Strong willed individuals built this great country, parasytic hangers-on build nothing, but instead require a healthy host in order to thrive. We are aware of them now, we will deny them what they need. I can do no less for the sacrifices made by those who came before me, or the hope for my children’s future freedom and prosperity.

  • Vanessa Joseph

    President Obama is a socialist.If Obama wants to do anything to get the economy going it is simple. Rpeal Obama care, repeal NAFTA and put a 100 percent tarriff on all imports to this country. If we can’s produce or manufactor it then we do not need it. Get rid of Eric Holder and Ms. Jackson who is over the EPA and quit worring over so called “Green Jobs” that may not ever be delveloped. Everyone talks about Global warming and why then it is only the US doing something about it. If these pin heads think cap and trade is so great why not look at Spain. They pay more for their energy cost than neighboring countries and they have a 65% unemployement rate. Is that what we want for our country? I am disappointed that we have such a “Weak” leader who apologizes for us being a “Super Power” He and his cronies has distroyed the coal industry, our space program and put Catapillar out of business because of the strict regulations. There is no way we can have four more years.

    • http://deleted Claire

      Caterpillar in Decatur, Illinois is doing well. My daughter works there.

      • OB1

        Illinois, International contracts. End of comment. Working for now? For how long? The Chinese are already building aircraft and have a new Chinese aircraft carrier.

        • http://deleted Claire

          OB1–You are correct. “For how long” is a good statement. Our administrations have made China a rich nation, while America has become poorer by doing so.

        • http://deleted Claire

          OB1–I have edited a lot of manuscripts, and as you know, we should be ever watchful about China. They have over 5 million troops. And yes, it appears they are “beefing” up their military might. “Something” is in the wind, maybe not in my lifetime but probably in the future.

          • OB1

            I was thinking control of Asia an the Pacific Islands, in return for funding US debt. I really do not know. I suspect, I am not sure at all…..

          • Kate8

            OB1 – The Pacific islands and California. Hillary signed over to them eminent domain rights in California.

            They want more land for their people. They have also stated that we will be removed from it, one way or another.

            A long time ago I posted a link for this. It’s probably still there, if you do a search. (My computer is sooooo slow lately that I don’t want to stop and do it now. I’ll never make it back.)

    • http://aol nancy says

      I believe need to drill for oil here in America, clean coal, and do some solar, wind, other energy, Why not?
      do them all. Lets plant more trees they collects carbon dioxide, puts out oxygen for humans.

  • Charles

    Cannot this excuse for a president be either recalled for dereliction
    of duty or impeached for sedition on the grounds of trying to destroy
    the country?

    • Kate8

      Charles – And just who is going to make this happen?

      In case you haven’t noticed, our ENTIRE GOVERNMENT has sold us out. Not one of them, in any branch, stands with the American people.

      Judge Roll dared to rule against Obama.

      • Jay

        Who is going to make that happen? Well, nobody. That would be like a liar judging a thief! And who would preside over the case? barry, the “Brown Bomber”? That would be like asking Al Capone to look within himself to honestly determine whether he’s guilty or not! Hey barry, are you guilty of treason?

      • Jay

        That’s right Kate, anybody that tries to resist old barry, gets eliminated. Seems old barry was paying close attention when clitoris was president! Remember clinton’s list, of x, dead employees? Huh huh…

        • Nick

          It’s great to watch the Empire go down in flames!!

      • OB1

        True. It was hidden behind Gifford.

        • Kate8

          OB1 – Thank you! Finally, someone besides me can see that!

          You don’t know how much flack I’ve gotten for that bit of info. It was all over the press everywhere but America. But nooooooo. Our Fraud in Chief wouldn’t do anything like that.

          And we wonder how we got to this point.

    • http://deleted Claire

      Dereliction of duty? That is a good one! It applies to all elected politicians in America’s government.

      • Jay

        That’s a 100% correct Claire! They’re all hired “Thugs/Criminals”! It should not be called the White House, rather, the Whore-House, Habitation of Demons, full of lairs and thieves, assassins and murderers, psychopaths an sociopaths, and the rotten cherry to top the manure pile? A socialist/marxist, deluded nit-wit named barry!

        • http://deleted Claire

          Jay– Since Obama is from Chicago–I am about 3 and half hours away from Chicago and that is still too close. Our esteemed Illinois governor will not live in the governor’s mansion in Springfield. He would rather fly back and forth at the taxpayers expense. He also increased our taxes. For example, when I purchase dog food, etc. I pay 8% sales tax. The lottery was created years and years ago and the money was supposed to be towards education. What did they do with all the money? Fishy Rahm is now their mayor. I wonder how many fish he has mailed to his enemies? I had best be careful, I may get a fish in the mail. Chicago is taken care of first, and the central/southern part of the state gets the remnants. Chicago should become a state of its own. I am amazed that they haven’t made Chicago the capitol of Illinois. Now they are wanting more casinos since they think it will generate income for them. The addicted gamblers will really go in a hole not to mention the people that will blow an entire paycheck that they cannot afford to lose. Senator Kirk (R) lied abut his miltary service and he still was elected. Aaron Schock (R) is so in love with himself that he probably has a mirror in his pocket at all times. The Dems are useless. I honestly do not know where these people come from and how they get elected. The word “shallow” comes to my mind, plus a few other words that I should not post.

          • Palin12

            don’t forget old Blagojovich. Sentencing hearing in October. Can’t wait to see him led away in cuffs. This is *** golden!

          • OB1

            Blogo is only the “Fall Guy”.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Palin12–Old Blago??!! He would already be in jail if I had any say in the matter. At least for 25 years, maybe more. Geez, the older I get, the more hard-nose I become! But right is right and wrong is wrong. No other way to say it.

          • Palin12

            Don’t be surprised if Obummer gives Blago a pardon. But if he does remember what happened to Ford.

          • Buster the Anatolian

            If the o gives blago a pardon it will be after the election but before the change in adminstrations.

          • jim saulino

            Palin12′s comment needs to include the news that Ford, and Carter too, for that matter, were dupes who paved the war for Reagan and Bush, and BushII, and Clinton, who was to the right of Nixon. and now we have the only Hoover centrist, Obama, who’s being accused of socialism. Rightwing World needs to become a theme park.

  • norman

    Our belovid? burrac hussan obama,,,with his socisalist views just put everything in fast foward?? Most of the liberal repulicans,,are just as bad as the democrates…but were weading them out..It’s time for the true democrates to do the same thing ,,get rid of the socalist,,,

    • jim saulino

      Uh, spell check please?

  • Jay

    I hear you Claire, it’s an absolute disgrace! The industrial base has been decimated! Why heck, we can’t even have our own lemon trees. The American tax-payers/middle class/investors have been robbed of literally, trillions of dollars, gone, finito, never to be seen again. Btw, United States debt is not, 14 trillion, its more like 200 trillion. We can never pay that back. And all, by design! Its been going on for years, it started with the federal reserve, and at present, they are trying to squeeze what little left there is before they drop the hammer. Looking to the thugs on the hill for help, or a solution, is like asking Dracula to stop sucking blood out of your neck. Ain’t gonna happen. What we need to do is: 1) Stop listening to their lies. 2) Start letting them know that we know who they are, and we know what their doing, and that is, robbing us blind. 3) Get rid of every last one of them. 4) Start all over again. Easier said then done, i know. But until such time, one cannot expect to draw fresh water from a poisoned well!

    • OB1

      Don’t think the “black community” doesn’t know about this. Check this out:

    • http://deleted Claire

      Jay–getting rid of all of them is the answer. We have to let them know we mean business. They certainly do not pay any attention to my emails and letters here in Illinois. They no doubt consider me a crackpot. Well, I have news for them, come election time, they should all be tossed by the wayside. Let them earn a living like the rest of us, bet they wouldn’t be able to handle it.

  • http://deleted Claire

    To all: My sincere wishes for all of you to have a marvelous weekend. I have to bathe 2 dogs and get them looking spiffy. Big dog show in Iowa tomorrow and Monday. Godspeed.

    • Palin12

      Good luck Claire, hope they win. My dogs are anxious to get out of the 100′s here in Nevada. They prefer to stay inside most of the day.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Tell me about it!! My mutt never made such short trips outside in his life!!! He wants his air conditioning back!!! Spoiled rotton! but he’s still my bud!!

  • chuckb

    ob1, also check out what else mr. farrakhan preaches. this man is the biggest racist in the country. he hates all whites and also the jews.
    that is what confuses me, barry has surrounded himself with communist type jews, he, in my mind is a natural born muslim, he attends the trinity united church of christ, pastor jeremiah wright pastor, for twenty years, so he says, wright is a big supporter of the nation of islam and probably belongs, he and farrakhan are big buddies. they all hate jews. how come the majority of jews support barry?

    • OB1

      T%hank you. I always thought he was a twit. But this Utube surprised me. Why would he recently be posting this? Is he trying to manipulate the black community in inner cites into not trusting anybody or anything? Why? Was it designed to “bait” the black community against the Jews? And really, are we not getting the same message from MSM? Thanks, for you input. That is WHY I posted it. I always thought Farakkahan was a socialist-communist. After all this, I am definitely simplifying my work and my lifestyle. Good grief!


    How many can see the family resembalance between Barry Sotero and Obango????? I say yep, look like twins to me..

  • Larry W. Mayes

    I wonder if our endearing President Obama will get a two minute warning before the game starts. I wouldn’t doubt that Eric Holder and Janet Napolitano have mandated a two minute warning for illegals at the border, except with cameras are rolling.

  • Mike H.

    A true “democracy” would allow 51% of the population to decide the other 49% should die. I think I prefer a Republic! Rick Perry wants to give too many rights and too much taxpayer money to illegals, so not my choice. RON PAUL, ’nuff said.

    • jim saulino

      Better to have a little bit of socialism than a lot of national socialism. Have you read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William L. Shirer? Very little stands in the way of the same thing happening here. If you believe IT can’t happen here, make the effort to read Shirer’s flawlessly documented work. With notes and index it comes to 1249 pages and is a most worthwhile read.

  • E

    Hey mr. Ben, can I have your sunglasses? I’d look a lot cooler playing my guitar if I had some like that.
    Jauku tev dienu!

  • Jimbayala

    Ben Crystal using a laugh track. Typical?

    • Jay

      Barry using a teleprompter, uhm, uhm typical!

      • jim saulino

        Maybe “Barry” reads from the back of Ben Crystal’s hand.

  • http://FarTooMuch.Info Russ Lemon

    I heard a third hand rumor that said that “Martin Guitars, whose CEO is a big Obama supporter and frequent guest at the White house, ratted on Gibson for a NON-illegality and Martin’s buddies sent the hounds after Gibson.” Other rumors noted that Gibson is non-union.

  • Elba Saravia

    If you are not scumbama as*kisser that can happen to you, in Los Angeles Ronny Chasen spoke bad about scumbama and somebody killed her so Gibson didn’t do so bad.

  • Korean Vet

    Kids that are born “Outside of Wedlock” can ‘Only’ be “Given their mother’s maiden Surname-(If there’s “No Legal Husband” & “No Legal
    Marriage”-! His name’s not Mickey Mouse nor Obama-! In USA–”Bigamy” is “Forbidden by Law”-! Ann’s marriage-license was ‘Voided’ by Obama
    Sr. by being still married to his 1st wife “Kezia” in Kenya, so Ann
    remained a unmarried mother & had “No Legal Husband”, so her illegal
    son was born Aug 4, 1961-! Ann Dunham was deceived by lies of Obama Sr. who got her a “Worthless marriage-license” to keep her silent from
    police about a possible ‘Date-Rape’-! Only a “Legal Marriage” can give
    you the surname–”Obama”-! Ann had “No Legal Husband” & pres. Obama
    had “No Legal Father”–thus he’s “Legally” given his mother’s “Legal”
    maiden surname–”Dunham”-! (In this case–there’s no “Legal Transfer” of the Surname of “Obama”-!) If Ann didn’t get the right to be called
    “Mrs. Obama”–Then, neither does her “Illegal Son”-! We’ve seen an
    interview of Obama Sr’s 1st wife (Living in England) where she made the Statement–”That she was NEVER divorced & maintains that she remained married to Obama Sr. until his Car-Death in 1982″-! (This
    verifies that Ann Dunham was NEVER ‘Legally Married’–& that 1st wife
    “Kezia” had “Retained” all ‘First-Title’ Rights as “Mrs.Obama”-!

  • Jay

    An insider speaks out and exposes the plans of the elite!

    • Kate8

      Jay – Really something, isn’t it? I’ve seen this clip before.

      It’s horrifying that a few people can be so gleeful about causing the suffering and misery of millions, even billions of people. They have no regard for suffering at all.

      Not only that, but they’ve stolen our money to build and stock their palacial underground bunkers where they will go to save themselves. I wonder how much money if “foreign aid” has gone into building bunkers in those countries, as well. It certainly hasn’t gone to helping the people. (I hope they cave in on top of them, burying them forever.)

  • Jay

    Congress Passes HR8791 Homeland Security Bill!

  • chuckb

    korean vet, sounds about right to me. the bolsherviks are hiding the facts for some reason and your information sounds plausible. the best yet.

  • jim saulino

    Hey! You must have overlooked my “scurrilous” comment on the blatant racism in Ben Crystal’s video. Crystal is out-becking Glenn Beck.
    The reason Obama won the election is because his Wall Street backers correctly believed that Obama could do a better job for them than John McCain.

    Really, it must seem to anybody who has voted in the last thirty-five years that insofar as the owners of the United States –the upper two percent of the income populace– is concerned, anybody who passes through the two party conventions will be satisfactory. We, in other words would have seen very little difference in this country had McCain been elected. Even had he died in office.

    The presidency is all window dressing for the “great democracy show” put on for the benefit of an over propagandized public. The Bolshevist movement has been below dormant for many years. Yet Ben Crystal and the guys are still worried about an insurrection coming laughably from the centrist Obama administration.

    Crystal’s real worry is that people in this country are much more in tune with bolshevism’s basic tenets which include an equitable sharing of the state’s wealth and resources among ALL its citizens. Crystal certainly realizes that the Russian literal meaning of bolshevic is “bigger.” That is to say that the non wealthy in the USA as in the rest of the world are Bigger than those very few who own the wealth and their reporters. Our liberal reporters are only as liberal as their owners such as General Electric and Australian mid east oil investor Rupert Murdoch are.

    You certainly will be loath to print this letter but I will take some satisfaction to know that your censor, uh screener, read it.

    Jim Saulino, Youngstown, Ohio USA

    P.S. Have a great Labor Day

  • jim saulino

    Well? What do you have to say for yourselves?

  • chuckb

    jim saulino,

    “The reason Obama won the election is because his Wall Street backers correctly believed that Obama could do a better job for them than John McCain.”

    please tell me what wall street backers knew about barry that we didn’t know? and what told them he could do a better job than mccain?
    bolshinstvo meant in russia the majority party, later it then turned into the communist party, bolsheviks,cosequently, it means just that, “communist party”
    the majority of the country is not as you state ready to accept marxism, a majority of the people backing barry soetoro, the minorities and illegals, a great share of the democratic party or should i say the left wing democrats willingly do.

    barry soetoro a centrist, excuse me, lol, this guy is so left wing marxist he couldn’t find the center of the road.

  • jim saulino

    What planet have you dropped in from chuck bee? You don’t know Obama from Barry Manilow (he’s playing in Youngstown very soon. Barry, not Barack). You also need to bone up on your Russian. Ever hear of the Bolshoi Ballet? The word means “big,” the big ballet. Not the communist ballet.

    And get out a history book please and stop either making things up or listening to Rash Limbo who has given his on-loan brain back to God. You guys see communists everywhere, all the time.

    BTW the socialist Francis Bellamy wrote the Pledge of Allegiance (yes, to the flag of the United States of America AND to the Republic for which that flag stands AND liberty and justice for all; not just all rich white men).

    Have a wonderful Labor day comrade, uh friend.

  • jim saulino

    barry soetoro translates into English as Jim Crow. May I see your papers, please?

  • chuckb

    jim saulino, evidently you had a long swim across the river. when you get your clothes dry, go to the public library and see if you can find an old history book. you probably never read factual history, since most history books in our lower learning schools have been revised to accomodate the lesser factions of our population. maybe then you can find the meaning of the word “bolshevik” in was derived from the word bolshinstvo, meaning majority party. they were called bolsheviks when they adopted communism.
    if barrys name is not soetoro, please tell me were you found the proof of that. you can’t even prove the jerk is a naturalized citizen.
    go up the page and read korean vets comments, maybe you might learn something.

  • james saulino

    grow up honey. I’m old enough to be your grandfather

  • jim saulino

    By the way Chuck,
    I have lived in Russia, speak the language, had a Russian girlfriend, travelled by train through that country and have been active in non right wing politics. I have a good number of conservative friends; we respect one another and can agree to disagree. If we indeed disagree at all.
    I did research into your farcical Obama name change and cannot believe people still buy into that balderdash. I have heard talking head conservatives on Fox shy away from the so-called “birther” notion. Hillary Clinton’s campaign began the not born in the USA schtick when she was trying to best Obama during the primary election season beginning in 2007. Nobody has ever to my knowledge substantiated any of the forged birth certificate rumor. Was there a plot in 1961 when Obama was born in Hawaii to groom the baby for the presidency of the United States? That is as chimerical as the world wide socialist conspiracy. Why did Communist Obama give trillions of our tax dollars t o failed banks and insurance companies? To General Motors? Why did Obama cave in so deeply to the Republicans on health care? Our health care system is on par with Ireland’s. We have the 46th best health care system in the world. Why does Obama let illegal immigrants into the USA to clean the homes for the wealthy and have immigrant children picking blueberries so we the people get cheaper fruit? Not a bit of any of that seems even vaguely liberal, let alone socialist. The banks and oil companies believe in socialism when it comes to government paying for their research and development, or subsidizing their foolish greedy business practices — but when it comes to profit-making, banks & c are Capitalist all the way!
    History books?I have read Russia and the Russians by Geoffrey Hosking, a Professor of Russian History at the University of London.
    Literature? I have read most of the classical Russian literature, much of the later literature, and am aware of the difference between Red Russians and White Russians. And anyway why do the Republicans consider themselves “red?”
    Personal Liberty Digest is an informative site but not the bible of world history and politics. The axe their ed staff has to grind is very plain to me and I appreciate them granting me the space and time to put forth my views. Some/many of us “liberals” get marginalized by the other party of corporate wealth — our Democrat friends. So let us keep our liberties personal and our speech free only to the point where we incite the removal or restriction of the rights of everybody. Keep the debate civil.

  • chuckb

    jim, you amaze me, barry caved in to the republicans on healthcare? are you for real? the republicans had nothing to do with healthcare. it was completely a bolshevik thing, it was all done behind closed doors. remember pelosi, we will see what’s in the bill after it’s passed.

    before you make ascertains about barrys name, apparently you know nothing about. barry was adopted by lolo soetoro when he and his mother dunham married and moved to indonesia:

    Reviewing only the admissions of Barack Obama, we are told that Obama was born to U.S. citizen Stanley Ann Dunham, legally adopted by a foreign national named Lolo Soetoro, had taken the name Barry SOETORO, and was given Indonesian citizenship. He was raised as a Muslim in Indonesia, and attended a school there that accepted all faiths. At one point, Barry SOETORO moved to Hawaii to reside with his grandparents after Lolo SOETORO and Stanley Ann DUNHAM divorced. Obama completed high school as Barry SOETORO Much is missing from his early years, including a legal name change from Barry SOETORO to Barack Hussein Obama II. Absent of any document to show the legal process of a name change within the U.S., it is likely that the man sitting in the Oval Office is, in fact, Barry SOETORO.

    as far as your russian schooling goes, so what, you apparently know nothing about the bolsheviks.
    birth certificates produced by the bolsheviks to prove barrys birth place have been declared forgeries throughout the world. barrys birth question will most likely come up in the near future. he and his comrades have not made much effort to prove otherwise, they try to shame any investigation and barry has spent millions covering up to avoid all information on himself.
    the media tagged the republican party with the color red, that’s obvious, they certainly couldn’t call the bolsheviks “red” could they.
    that would really be a disaster for them.

    as far as history books go, it may behoove you to read up on american history, the un-revised history.
    capitalism built this country, not socialism or communism. show me any country built on socialism and i will show you a government that has failed it’s people.
    envy of other peoples gain will only make you more resentful and at the same time lower your status.

    • jim saulino

      I think you’re confused. You must mean Barry Morse who played Lt Gerard on the series The Fugitive. He died a few years back. Or maybe you’re thinking of Indians pitcher Barry Latman, or Chuck Berry, chuck b. Or the song, You Make Me So Barry Happy.

      Or, maybe everybody in the USA has a forged birth birth certificate and we are all brothers and sisters SOETORO. Lighten up a bit too, you’ll have a stroke or something.

  • jim saulino

    Well, You are certainly stubbornly and irrationally ignoring my arguments by using your own ad hominem rejoinders.
    Your assumption that I don’t read history is just — sad.
    Your complete ignorance is in line with your indoctrination by the party of wealth to which you seem to owe so much fealty. You are either a billionaire with misbegotten wealth to protect from all the pink and green Bolshevics from planet Mars or else you are completely duped through gaining all your knowledge from Palin12 and your main source the Korean vet. Which animals does he specialize in? My guess is sheep, after shearing and before the slaughterhouse.
    Go back to your pen, the shears are waiting for you before the trip to the processor.

  • chuckb

    you have a serious problem. i would suggest you return to the failed school you attended and sue them for their failed attempt to educate you.

  • jim saulino

    What makes you such an expert on my education? Maybe you could help me out with my serious problem since you seem to know all about everything. When do you graduate from high school, 2014? Or, are you like the Self-Educated-Man from Sartre’s novel Nausea? He was up to the letter K in his library. You seem not to have gotten past the B’s. Finish up on Bolshevism, get over to Communism, then on to the F’s for fascism. Read Rise and Fall of the Third Reich bu Shirer and see if you can recognize yourself anywhere in the first 200 pages, Corporal.

  • jim saulino

    By William L. Shirer for that Rise and Fall. Sorry for thr typo.

  • chuckb

    jim, i served in ww2, you remarked, “you are old enough to be my grandfather”, you must be way up there.

    at the start of these comments, you stated barry was elected by wall street because they believed he would do a better job than mccain.
    i asked you, how did they come to that conclusion, whatever did barry do that would install that kind of confidence, show me any information you have on this man that would indicate he had any business experience, educational records, birth certificate, who actually was his father and was his father married when he was shacked up with dunham. no one really knows.

    you haven’t produced any information on any of these matters, only snide remarks. if you except the information the dnc has submitted, then, i doubt your assumption along with millions of other people.

    there’s a book called ‘iron curtain over america” by john beaty it’s free on the internet. it might enlighten you on your heritage.

    i’m not concerned with your education or how much you’ve had, what i have seen in your comments is rambling in all directions and i don’t mean this as antagonistic, just stating what i understand.
    if you can prove barry soetoro is not aka barrack hussien obama then please tell me where i’m wrong.

  • jim saulino

    After all your childish rants and name calling ( I followed your thread from the beginning) and very racist remarks now you wish to take a higher road, criticizing my informal debate style. Refusing to get out of your Barry Bag tells me you are a one trick pony who has shown our discourse to your adviser (your Dad?). Read the following:

    Hawaii Department of Health responseThe director of Hawaii’s Department of Health, Chiyome Fukino, issued a statement confirming that the state held Obama’s “original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures”.[5][36] Noting “there have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate”, Fukino explained that the department was prohibited by state law from releasing it to “persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.” She stated: “No state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawaii.”[5][37][38]

    According to TVNewser, CNN’s researchers stated in 2009 that the original birth certificate no longer existed, as Hawaii discarded all paper birth records in 2001, and the certification of live birth was the official copy.[39] Contradicting this report, Janice Okubo, public information officer for the Hawaii DOH, said “We don’t destroy vital records.”[40] The Health Department’s director emphasized the assertion:

    I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai’i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008, over eight months ago.[40][41]
    Joshua Wisch, a spokesman for the Hawaii attorney general’s office, stated in 2011 that the original “long form” birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a “record of live birth” kept in the archives of the Hawaii Department of Health is “… a Department of Health record and it can’t be released to anybody”, including President Obama. Wisch added that state law does not authorize photocopying such records.[31]

    I can find more but had a difficult time sifting through dozens of shrill rants that were circular at best.

    If you were in WWII I was in the War to End All Wars. Dalton Trumbo wrote about me in his story. Johnny Got his Gun.

    Nobody I have ever met from the WWII era was as paranoid about communism as you seem to be. Come on, what grade are you really in? I promise not to tell anybody……….

  • chuckb

    “all my childish rants and name calling?” lol, “racist remarks” lol

    i refrain from calling names, not over the internet. if you can’t say what you want without that, then you are making a poor argument.
    you say:
    Joshua Wisch, a spokesman for the Hawaii attorney general’s office, stated in 2011 that the original “long form” birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a “record of live birth” kept in the archives of the Hawaii Department of Health is “… a Department of Health record and it can’t be released to anybody”, including President Obama. Wisch added that state law does not authorize photocopying such records.[31]

    for your information about the birth certificate: jan.2011
    Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an affidavit swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii and that neither Queens Medical Center nor Kapi’olani Medical Center in Honolulu had any record of Obama having been born in their medical facilities.

    furthermore, if your info is true and i don’t believe it is, where did they get the picture of the live birth certificate? hmm!
    barry can’t view his own birth certificate! do you really believe that, how about buying a share of the golden gate bridge.

    it is difficult for me to understand people like you, to defend such a loser, believe his lies, when you can plainly see what damage he has done to this country. jimmy carter is now the second worse president in our history.

    yes, i am concerned about communism, barry has a cabinet full of communist jews. who do you think pulls barrys strings, yes, very concerned. “barry is nothing but a dangerous puppet”

    for your information, i turned eighteen in 1945 on a troop ship between honolulu and the marshall islands.

  • jim saulino

    Not racist? No name calling? Communist Jews?! Loser? After you turned 18 your development arrested. You’re still 18. Barry White like Barry Obama: neither are or were communists — ever. The whole argument is based on deflecting attention away from truly significant issues we face, such as maintaining trillions of dollars worth of military bases around the world. We have Okinawa nailed down pretty tight after sixty years. We can’t have those Japanese fascists attacking China like they did eighty or so years ago.

    Just possibly could the government free up some money from all those military bases to develop and improve the quality of life in our third-worldish inner cities? We could get the government ooff our backs by reducing our fleet of eleven aircraft carrier flotillas. What do those cost per second? $1000? Quite likely.

    Additionally I am not defending Obama at all. My original claim is that Wall Street considered Obama more of a G0-Getter. Look at what OB did for them. He makes me ill. But attacking his name and citizenship is a one way ticket to nowhere.

    Obama sent the Navy SEALS to illegally invade Pakistan. Seventy heavily-armed SEALS against a defenseless, unarmed binLaden. Then with Obama’s consent assassinated binLaden instead of bringing him to trial. This clearly violates international law — unless the United States grants itself immunity from invading a soverign state with consent from nobody at all.

    To turn the tables a bit, let’s suppose Iraqi nationalists broke into the White House, kidnapped the president, shot him and dumped his body in the ocean. Then declared that this act is fully justifiable. Or suppose Guatemala wishes to build an air force base in Miami Florida? in exchange for US building one there? The point?

    We are being set uo and robbed blind by both parties, then lied to by setting up clay pigeons of socialism which in reality haven’t a thing in the world to do with The Plan of both parties in collusion with weapons manufacturers. The Democrats hate democracy every bit as much as the Republicans do. We the people are not expected, they hope, to participate in any serious decisions made by “our” government. We are considered insignificant spectators, just here to pay up our tax and root for the team. But don’t do anything. I believe Obama is a terrible president as were all his predecessors back to FDR. He and his fellow former presidents were all Steppin’ Fetchits for Wall Street & Co.

    I would like to say that we need a third party, but actually what we need is a second party. Democrats and Republicans and their lobbyist system are all members of a big club. And you aren’t in it. Neither am I or anybody I know. Forget about the socialists, they took care of themselves long ago. Our one party system of neoliberal/neoconservatives is a tiny step away from becoming National Socialsts. It Can and may very well happen here, and soon.

    When that day arrives we will have ourselves to blame and will have to answer for much: for all of the petty quibbling about which ruling class party cares the most about We The People. We’re just another empire doomed to fail unless we become players instead of spectators.

  • jim saulino

    BBB Barry Bailed the Banks, continuing the Reagan,Bush, Clinton, Bush the lesser policy of keeping the wealth in the hands of the wealthy and not us pesky whiney bottom ninety-five percent.

  • chuckb

    jim, calling jews communist is name calling? who was it that instigated the overthrow of the czarist government of russia, they were instrumental in the revolution of 1917. the jews were a major force in the communist party of russia and throughout europe and germany. they probably sent as many people to death as what they blame hitler for. they were instrumental in the elevation of hitler to power in germany. they immigrated to the u.s illegally and otherwise, they infiltrated the government of fdr and built their agenda from there. we now have some in barrys cabinent, try axelrod, geithner, bernanke, check them out. you say barry isn’t a communist, i have no way of proving he is, only by his actions.
    the problem is no one knows anything about barry, just bits and pieces, his association with bill ayers is enough to ring bells, he lied when he said he hardly knew him. this man is nothing but one big lie from beginning to end.

    your idea of fueling the inner cities with money is only propagating more misery. welfare is a detriment to ambition. we need to control the birth rate, our cities are becoming fiefdoms of poverty, people living off the dole of others. check out the problem in africa, every black country on the continent is either in a state of revolution or poverty stricken. why? because they breed like rabbits and produce nothing.
    take a look at south america from rio de janeiro, brazil north. the blacks are out breeding all other races, they are creating more poverty every day. again they produce nothing except children they can’t feed. the carribean islands are nothing but an incubator for black babies, haiti is a prime example.
    this is all coming to a head, our inner cities are facing the same problem. you think pouring more money into those areas is the answer, i certainly don’t. we better pour some birth control in.

    a second party made up of whom? nice idea, however, what kind of platform do you propose? we probably would end up in the same position we are now in disagreement.

    my contention is probably far different than yours, i don’t think these multicultured societies can work, unless all the constituents live and believe in the same standards, remember the biblical story of the tower of babel. god wanted division between peoples, not all living and working in the same environment.

    you sound like there is some hope for you, however, short of a revolution i don’t see much changing.

  • jim saulino

    calling obama barry suggests you are an ignoramos or right wing ideologue. I don’t believe you are either of those. However most of the stuff I read in which writers/bloggers call the president barry are very simple-minded. Frankly I am embarrassed for these writers.

    The fact remaind that Obama is president who is continuing the policies of Henry Kissinger, James Baker, insiders from the Bush family and a great many others who remain behind the scene president after president. I can spot the bias of writing as soon as I see a nonfiction in a bookstore. You really can judge some books by their covers if you understand what you are looking for. There are “buzz words” used by various ideologies, such as politically correct, nattional security. And so forth; I heard varieties of them in my teaching and writing days. And as Noam Chomsky, one of the finest linguists ever to come down the pike, says. “Anybody who even considers running for the presidency of the United States is automatically suspect.” Of What? You’re an intelligent man who can look at the track records of all the presidents since 1947 and figure out what makes them suspect. I look in the direction of opportunism, and wouldn’t give two cents for the whole lot of them.

    By the way I would like to apologise for being so snide with you sometimes. Right wing-ism brings that out in me. But I have great respect for your having served in the second war. I am proud and thankful for all who served. All of you are my heroes.Furthermore I have a great respect for a great number of those who have served in the armed services since WWII. But not all of them. I personally know and have read about others who have gone to war for highly questionable reasons. These people have assisted the military-industrial complex (Eisenhower warned us about that)in bringing great shame and anti-democracy to our country.

    So as of late (the last 30 years) I have taken everything I read or see in the electronic media with so many grains of salt. They are mostly not at all liberal but reactionary. Example. Rush Limbaugh crows about the media along with Michael Savage, Beck, O’Hannity, and let us not forget Ben Crystal. They ARE the media, and it’s all show biz and entertainment; prestige and $$$ for them. The truth be damned. Truth doesn’t sell Ford pickups or Weyerhauser.

    I look for groups and individuals who believe in the principles most Americans stood for during and prior to the 1940s. There are people today who still stand for those principles, but I see very few taking a public stand for them. They give nice speeches full of buzz words that mean something much different from what they say. We used to call that lying. Now it’s putting a “spin” on a story.

    Finally I wish you all the best and hope you keep an open mind and please do, if you haven’t, read the rise and fall of the third reich. As a world war II vet you will appreciate how relatively simply it was for the Nazis to overthrow the democratic German Republic.They used lots of sweet high-minded talk. Once they gained power they turned their thugs against the day-to-day people in Germany.

    Be Well,
    Jim Saulino (my real name)
    Youngstown, Ohio (my real city)
    PS I’m in my mid 60s (really honest and true)

  • chuckb

    jim in closing, i would like to say something.

    first off i was impressed with barry soetoro when i first heard him speak and i misunderstood much of the meaning he was implying.
    after a while i noticed his message never changed nor did it have any substance, something like canned speech. at the time i didn’t realize he had to speak thru the teleprompter and every speech was basically the same.
    when the birth certificate thing came to light, i, of course was curious. then it dawned on me, why didn’t he produce the necessary evidence and stop all the conversation in it’s track.
    he refused to do so, only producing a document i’m sure he knew would only cause more controversy. he has refused to divulge any information on himself, he refuses to even acknowledge his true name.
    we do know he was adopted by lolo soetoro henceforth the name barry soetoro, he has not acknowledged any change back to barrack hussein obama. this matter is true with everything concerning him, nobody knows anything about this guy.

    now lets say you apply for a job with any large company, are they going to accept this premise, i tell them verbally what my history is and refuse to give them any proof. how does he get away with it as the president of the u.s.

    my personal opinion of barry is: he’s a street con, totally controlled by persons unknown. he has a gifted voice and the ability to speak well, that is as long as the teleprompter is in front of him.
    his ability goes out the window along with any evidence of intellect when off the tele.

    we agree on the big bankers.

    having read “the rise and fall of the third reich” years ago, i also read “the life and death of adolf hitler” by robert payne. i have read tons of books on ww1 thru the vietnam war. the best history book of them all is the one i mentioned “the iron curtain over america”.
    to me that book delves into the cause of both wars, is very well documented. it takes you up to the korean war. it discloses information the history books fail to. you will most likely find the book anti-semitic, i do not, it discloses what the communist jews have accomplished since the russian revolution. it explains what happened in germany and the cause of ww2.

    some people use racial terms to hide behind, like anti-semetic,. for myself, i judge people on their actions, not what race they are. i have friends of different ethnicity, black, mexican, american indian,
    jewish, we have one thing in common, we are all patriotic citizens.

    i resent the muslims and the people who migrate here and want to set up their own culture, if they loved their culture so much then stay where they are. they expect us to change our way of life to satisfy them. no thanks.

    jim, i was born in 1927 in kansas city, missouri, and devout republican, i have voted in every election since 1948. at the present time i am not registered with the republicans. i always considered george bush to be honest and 2008 he started to appease the democratic congress and senate and this led to more spending than we could afford, trying to get along was not the answer. he was not concerned with the high price of oil and since this concerned me, i decided to leave the republican party. both parties are corrupted by their only interest is retaining their job. we are a republic not a democracy, we are a capitalistic nation and to resort to socialism will only destroy what we have built, however, we have to make sure the capitalist don’t get to greedy, we seem to be on that track at the moment.

    the best to you always, chuckb
    born: 1927, kansas city, mo.

  • http://None Magnum05

    Obama likes to talk, & other then that, he likes to campaign. That was exactly what he was doing. Funny, after almost 3 years he decided to come up with many of the things the republicans have been saying all along.The SOB knows he can fool the majority of voters, because according to a recent poll 80% of the voters don’t have a clue. Obamas timing was right, so he decided to tell a lot of what the people wanted to hear, that way if his plan doesn’t go through, he, the Democrats, & the Media can blame the Republicans. He never fooled me from the start, & he still can’t fool me. Too bad we don’t have some DECENT members in Congress who will stand up & get rid of this ILLEGAL in the Presidents Office.


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