Watch Out, Gun Owners: Congress Isn’t Done

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Just because Federal gun control failed in the Senate earlier this month doesn’t mean it won’t come up again in the 113th Congress.

Senator Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), one half of the bipartisan Manchin-Toomey duo responsible for a piece of “compromise” gun control legislation that went down in flames April 17, is already making the media rounds with a second gun grab attempt on his mind.

Manchin said on “Fox News Sunday” that he intends to offer another, simpler version of the bill to the Senate — one that he plans to float before opponents with the aim of building the consensus he wasn’t able to find earlier this month.

Senator Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), who co-sponsored the dead bill with Manchin, publicly washed his hands of any further efforts at gun control last week, telling reporters: “The Senate had its vote. We’ve seen the outcome of that vote. I am not aware of any reason to believe that, if we had the vote again, that we’d have a different outcome.”

But Sunday, Manchin said Toomey is willing to give the gun grab another go — after the bill has undergone a cleanup that evidently is supposed to make it easier to understand for those Senate opponents who voted against it the first time.

If the bill runs clean, and people can vote on this bill, up or down, based on the merits of this bill — how it protects a gun, a 2nd-Amendment gun person; a law abiding gun, gun owner — it’s perfect for that person. If you’re going to a gun show you’re gonna expect to have a background check. If you’re buying online, whether it’s an out-of-state gun, or in-state — a background check. No intervening at all with family transfers or individual rights whatsoever.

From that bit of clarity, plus other comments Manchin made, it appears Gun Grab II will involve universal background checks, cross-referencing with medical records to ensure no one with a mental illness (the bill would presumably delineate which types) buys a gun, and another attempt to close the fallacious “gun show loophole.”

Manchin didn’t provide a clear timeline for when another gun bill might come to the floor, but this Congress has until the end of 2014 to play with the 2nd Amendment.

Ben Bullard

Reconciling the concept of individual sovereignty with conscientious participation in the modern American political process is a continuing preoccupation for staff writer Ben Bullard. A former community newspaper writer, Bullard has closely observed the manner in which well-meaning small-town politicians and policy makers often accept, unthinkingly, their increasingly marginal role in shaping the quality of their own lives, as well as those of the people whom they serve. He argues that American public policy is plagued by inscrutable and corrupt motives on a national scale, a fundamental problem which individuals, families and communities must strive to solve. This, he argues, can be achieved only as Americans rediscover the principal role each citizen plays in enriching the welfare of our Republic.

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  • vicki

    Here is a common sense and universal background check system. It is a LOT less expensive then the privacy invading one currently used and new ones proposed.

    Check the background. Is it a prison (county jail etc)?

    If yes then don’t sell a gun to the inmate.
    If no then sell the gun to a free citizen.

    KEEP Criminals IN JAIL. It’s that easy.

    • No

      I don’t mind a law that keeps up with police record checks either, however I am extremely concerned that the background check involves medical records. Psychotropic treatments and mental institutions can be used as a very powerful weapon by the state, there is very little regulation over who they can lock away for a time and then label as “insane” for the rest of their life. It is a very dangerous situation and as such, I sincerely hope this bill does not pass.

      • vicki

        And what of all the “police record” errors? And what of all the criminals that don’t bother with the background checks that we have now?

        My system solves both the problem of errors in the police records and criminals skipping background checks.

        And it solves the fear of or actual attempt at gun registration.

  • Patriot

    Something I sent my States Senators and my District Rep.

    Sir:
    I am writing you in regards to the Second Amendment.

    I
    do not know how you feel about the Second Amendment but I believe in the
    Statement “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED”!

    The
    Right and Duty to Protect the United States against all enemies foreign and
    domestic means what it says!! Either you are part of the solution or are part
    of the problem!! Senator/Representative
    are you part of the problem?? You swore
    an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States! Are you upholding your
    oath??? Or are you going by another agenda?? If you are going by another agenda
    YOU ARE COMMITTING TREASON!!!!! If you are committing treason you should be
    removed from office and replaced by someone who believes in the Constitution
    and does not have an agenda!!! If you
    are not defending the Constitution and going by an agenda contrary to the best
    interests of the United States and its citizens you are in for a heap of
    trouble. DO YOU REMEMBER THE FIRST
    CIVIL WAR??? There are militia’s in the United States who are prepping for you
    to make the wrong move and overstep your authority when this happens you will
    not like what happens next!!!!

    Unless
    the Second Amendment is repealed by the States and the Citizens of the United
    States any law infringing on the rights of the law abiding citizens of the
    United States is NULL AND VOID the instant it is proposed and even if it passes
    Congress!!!!!! Doing this would be a
    disaster for you because you will have PISSED OFF THE WRONG PEOPLE!!!!!!!!

    • vicki

      Ummm. The right to keep and bear arms is a natural right and is a gift from God. If it were a gift from government then government could take it away. Those are called privileges btw.

      Removing the 2nd Amendment would just move the right into Amendment 9.

    • Heather James

      At best, if you actually sent this, you have guaranteed that your congresscretins will never read another letter you send. At worst, such a letter will be taken as a serious terrorist threat. Nothing good comes of making what will be construed as threats in that arena

  • Cory Hicks

    The part I don’t understand is why do you have to have the firearm listed by make,model and serial number for a check on the purchaser? Remove that and you remove the possibility of using that info for registration. And thereby removing most of the opposition.

    • Heather James

      Simple. It’s a soft registration. Even if the FBI actually doesn’t keep NICS check records (they’ve been caught at it before, even though they are banned from doing so), the gun seller has to keep the form 4473 on permanent record…and the feds get it if he goes out of business. So they can trace each gun at least through every time it is sold by an FFL holder.

      • Cory Hicks

        This is exactly what I mean. If they need to maintain records for accountability/inventory then make it as simple as a list of their inventory and whether it is in stock or sold. I am waiting for a special Factory Direct order that is to be shipped to my chosen FFL. I can not start the 10 day wait til it arrives because the dealer has to have possession of it before he can fill out the form to start the wait. This seems ridiculous to me.
        The wait peroid also seems ridiculous in cases such as mine, CCW for 20 years, 15 years federal and local LEO and have firearms already. The cooling off peroid needs more exceptions added to it.
        Thank you Heather for the reply as I enjoy the forums for their ability to allow me to speak with people throughout the country, not just to most of the brick walls here in the Peoples Republic of California.

  • Robbie

    A report just in from Burkesville, Kentucky notes that a five year old has just shot to death is two year old sister. Seems miniature guns are now being manufactured for really young children and they are beginning to use them – another great victory for the Second Amendament right to arms. The kids’ guns are called Criketts and Chipmunks and I guess there is no background check. They come in blue and pink depending if you are giving it as a gift to a boy or to a girl. Have fun kiddies.