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Washington Crucifies Job Creators

May 4, 2012 by  

Washington Crucifies Job Creators
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Al Armendariz was appointed as an Environmental Protection Agency official by President Barack Obama in November 2009.

Well, hot diggity dog. At least one mean-spirited, overzealous Washington regulator got what was coming to him this week. Al Armendariz, a regional director of the Environmental Protection Agency, was forced to quit his job when some of his intemperate remarks got publicized. It would be great if the same thing happened to a few thousand of his fellow bureaucrats.

Armendariz was in charge of enforcing EPA regulations in Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana and New Mexico. He was appointed to his post in November 2009 by President Barack Obama and quickly demonstrated a zeal for the job. He was infamous for his office’s harsh prosecution — many would say persecution — of any company that fell afoul of EPA regulations.

In a lecture two years ago, Armendariz explained his “philosophy of enforcement” to the audience:

It was kind of like how the Romans used to, you know, conquer villages in the Mediterranean. They’d go in to a little Turkish town somewhere, they’d find the first five guys they saw, and they’d crucify them. And then, you know, that town was really easy to manage for the next few years.

That’s a pretty chilling and cold-blooded attitude, wouldn’t you say? Notice that guilt or innocence has nothing to do with Armendariz’s methodology. All he’s concerned about is how quickly and how ruthlessly he can intimidate his subjects.

How would you like to have someone with this philosophy determining the future of the company you work for? Or founded? Or any private enterprise in this country, for that matter? Well, the sad truth is, there are thousands of petty tyrants like Armendariz working for your government — and being paid by your tax dollars — in hundreds of Federal bureaucracies. The only unique thing about Armendariz is that he got caught.

Senator James Inhofe (R-Okla.) deserves a tip of the hat for shining a spotlight on this particular cockroach. It happened because Inhofe decided to investigate an EPA vendetta against Range Resources, a drilling company the EPA accused of contaminating local water supplies. A lengthy investigation exonerated the firm, but not until Armendariz and his staff had done as much damage as they could to the company. As you probably know, the only energy producers the Administration of President Barack Obama likes are the wind and solar ones that need millions of dollars in Federal subsidies to survive. In the case of Solyndra Inc., $500 million in subsidies couldn’t keep it going.

But if you’re a for-profit producer of coal or oil or natural gas, forget it. You’ve got a big, bright bull’s eye painted on the middle of your back. And it was put there by Obama and his environmentalist buddies.

The Wall Street Journal recently published a lengthy opinion piece by Bob McDonnell, in which the Virginia Governor lamented how the Obama Administration pulled the rug out of from under plans to develop his State’s offshore oil and gas resources. He explained, “In 2010, Virginia was poised to become the first state on the East Coast permitted to produce oil and natural gas offshore.”

But the plans were nixed by Washington “with little explanation and even less regard for the strong bipartisan and public support for the offshore initiative.” Three months later, the Administration added insult to injury when it announced plans to subsidize wind-power development in Virginia’s waters.

And the same thing is happening from the Gulf Coast to Alaska. Profit-making (and tax-paying) private companies that want to develop our oil and gas resources are told “no way, Jose.” One project in Alaska that McDonnell cites could have created 55,000 new jobs annually — not to mention $145 billion in new payroll and $193 billion in additional government revenue. In case after case, it was a government bureaucrat — not the marketplace — that put the kibosh on the project.

And don’t get me started about the Keystone XL pipeline. Thanks to the Administration’s intransigence, thousands of jobs — and billions of barrels of oil — that could have been flowing from Canada to Texas and Oklahoma may now be going to China.

By the way, it’s not just Federal regulators who can promulgate some crazy rules. So can State and local governments, as many homeowners can testify. Just ask Joseph Pomares, who was recently cited for having “standing water” in a birdbath he added to a rental home he owns in Astoria, N.Y. A new regulation to the health code there makes landlords responsible for any infractions found on their property that could lead to the “breeding or harborage” of mosquitoes. It seems regulators there take their responsibilities to prevent West Nile virus very seriously. The citation he received advised Pomares that he was in violation of Article 151 of the city’s health code and could face a $2,000 fine if the situation was not remedied at once.

No doubt I could fill 100 more pages with similar injustices and outrages across this country. I was going to say that it was no doubt impossible to estimate the cost of complying with all the rules and regulations that have been inflicted on us by a Big Nanny government run amuck.

But if I said that, I’d be wrong. It turns out that the Competitive Enterprise Institute, a pro-free market think tank in Washington, has undertaken precisely such a study. And CEI says the total cost to our economy of government regulation amounts to a staggering $1.75 trillion a year.

To help put that price tag in perspective, CEI reports “Regulatory costs exceed all 2008 corporate pretax profits of $1.463 trillion.” How many jobs has it cost us? It’s impossible to know for certain, but the number is likely in the millions.

Speaking of unemployment, permit me to repeat something I pointed out in a Chip Shots item last week. Administration officials have pointed with pride to the latest unemployment figure, which allegedly has fallen to 8.2 percent. This is based on claims that 120,000 new jobs were added to the economy in March.

But buried deep in the report is the news that far more Americans who got new jobs dropped out of the labor force that month. The “no longer looking for work” numbers swelled by 164,000.

Just think about it: If every unemployed person stopped looking for work, our unemployment rate would be 0. That’s the sort of “recovery” this administration is giving us.

In the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson said that King George had “erected a Multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.”

Frankly, compared to what this Administration has done to us, our rebellious forefathers had it easy. Don’t you agree?

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

–Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • revnowwhilewecan

    I’m sure Armendariz has a cushy c.e.o. spot in one of Obama’s lobbiest company’s. I think we can mostly agree that most of the psychopaths that hold high government jobs only leave if they have a juiced in spot or they’re in jail for extortion or maybe pedophilia. The only way they’d be in jail for the latter is if they didn’t share with the sickos!! Scumbag cronyism at the highest levels. (Bush Sr. head of C.I.A. boytoy corporation) Ted Gunderson knows why “Johnny can’t come home”. Crazy story that the MSM refuses to touch.

    • Tom W.

      rnwwc whazzup?! Just look at the little dork, don’t ya wish he’d come up to ya with that attitude? Skeered, aren’t ya?!! Then for him to be sooo blasphemous!!! I pray that he repents before the Day! WHEW!!! But I think that what he said reflects the attitude of this whole administration, it is a facistically secular attitude that THEY know what is best and THEY will implement it, NO MATTER what WE the PEOPLE have to say!!!

      • Tom W.

        Welcome to the future folks!
        Play that FUNKY music white boy!!! I believe ole’ George was ROCKIN’ out!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCvUy540I7o&feature=related

      • Tom W.

        And speakin’ of my heart-throb, here she is doin’ her cover of a Led Zeppelin classic with a bit of a Blue Grass twist! AWESOME!!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPlvU1hKb0E&feature=related

      • Michael J.

        Tom W.
        She’s Hot, and plays fiddle too!

        The Libtards would do well to listen to the words of this song:
        When tshtf “Crying won’t help, crying won’t do you no good, when levee breaks…momma you die too”

      • eddie47

        Not sure what Alison Krauss has to do with liberals but a few of you will try and tie anything together LOL

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

          You don’t see it eddie?! You don’t see it because it ain’t there! Duhuhh!!! What in the HELL would someone who took their God given talent and honed that talent into a TRUE expression of LOVE, that’s what art is you know eddie? It’s ONE of the things that seperate us from the animals, we have the ability to take a medium, (Painting, music, writing, dance, sculpture, etc.) and we can express our feelings through that medium, sometimes through something other than our own physical limitations. It takes hard work and dedication (Two things that liberals know nothin’ of!!!) to hone those God given talents into the beautiful display of that AWESOME talent in the musical experiance that is Alison Krauss!!! Both vocally and instrumentally! So I guess that I’m agreein’ with you eddie, she doesn’t have a DAMN THING to do with you bunch of lazy, looney-left, Kool-AId guzzlin’, GLBT supportin’, libtard lemmings!!! MY BAD DUDE!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Momma, ya gotta mooove! Oohohoh!!! I can hit that high note can’t I?!!

      • Michael J.

        Tom W.
        I allways new there was something about Brad Paisley that didn’t quite sit well with me… Thanx for clearing that up for me. Liberals have infiltrated everywhere, including Nashville. The Country Music business is now headed by flittering, limp wristed left coasters who have a lot in common with a three dollar bill. Very sad.

        I also could not help but notice the Faux Potus grinning like a briar bush eating a dog.

    • slapjack

      Whatever we do don’t feel sorry for this Jr. Nazi he’s probably got an interview at a major LIBTARD U. These Braindead Nimrods gravitate to institutions of hate and discontent. I am glad he made a video of himself showing how stupid he really is. If only the LameBrain media would dwell on his ignorance a little more than a 15 second hohum report we could get The obummer out of office in November.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Romans 1:22 KJV “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,”

    • GALT

      “In a country well governed, poverty is something to be ashamed of. In a country badly governed, wealth is something to be ashamed of.”
      ― Confucius

      So Mr. Wood, how many of these PERSECUTED job creators are in jail?

      Please get started on the Keystone Pipeline…..if the goal is energy independence, build refineries….at the source….not pipelines to export the resource? ( which is what the current pipelines do, do they not? )

      Recent reports indicate that the so called taxes paid by corporations like Apple, include
      those taxes paid by their employee’s, and because of various other strategies, permitted by globalization, which allows much of their income to flow to tax havens, and the rest to
      be channeled to those states which are forced to compete for potential jobs in exchange for favoritism………your claims here would seem to be disingenuous?

      But the final question is that you seem to be suggesting that “government” is or has been corrupted, which begs the question of what your solution is…..ending the corruption in
      government or ending the government which permits those who have corrupted it to continue without ever having to face consequences?

      I would ask what you mean by “job creators” or if you can define what you mean by
      “productive” enterprise……or if the continued production of hot air and inciting continued
      ignorance would qualify……..but that is way beyond any expectation of either your audience here…….or the choir you usually preach to, isn’t it?

      Until next time………..

      “The Master said, “If your conduct is determined solely by considerations of profit you will arouse great resentment.”

      • Concerned Montanan

        Re: Keystone Pipeline vs building refineries. The US hasn’t built a new refinery for 30+ years. Why? How about “cost due to EPA regulations?” I know of one that was planned in the Dakotas and given up because of the regulation costs. It would have been a “short pipe” from the Bakken fields and would have created thousands of jobs.
        But that wouldn’t fit in the liberal agenda to control the land and its people….

      • MRMO57

        Here we go another Obummer mouth piece with the cra? that comes out both ends. You, your buddy in the w.h. and all of your con. and com. counter parts need to go back to Russia or any other hole that will take you all…

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Quick!!! Someone get the RAID!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHdaZ8rUmiM

      • GALT

        Was that you Chip? Doesn’t look like it………it’s the choir, hot air feedback loop…..the one’s who voluntarily surrendered their constitutional rights……and expect someone else to get them back for them……..you up for that Chip? 26 CFR 31.3402 (p) ; UCC 1-207

        As for the “choir”, there are several questions and you missed a few…….as for the regulation argument…….which sounds plausible, until you realize that if true, no refinery in the U.S. should be operating………

        So wake up…….you have no argument, nor do you have any solutions, you are simply ignorant, so much so that, you don’t even know which questions to ask…….not that it would occur to you that you really needed to ask questions…….

        Sorry your time has expired……..

  • Povertyhillian

    He can go “hug a tree” in some cushy position within academia, be tenured within
    a couple of years…and remain their until death at taxpayer’s and alumni’s expense.
    Pretty nice gig….ya think?

    • Tom W.

      You forgot about speakin’ engagements Pov!

  • FreedomFighter

    “Frankly, compared to what this Administration has done to us, our rebellious forefathers had it easy. Don’t you agree?”

    Certainly takes allot more to tick off the American people these days verse those.

    “Armendariz was in charge of enforcing EPA regulations in Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana and New Mexico”

    Just another Gerbil in the making, another pencil neck given power.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • MAP

    The Obamanation, our liar-in-chief, is the worst thing to happen to this country in my lifetime, maybe even the entire history of the country. He has made himself dictator and is living like an oil sheik at our expense. Heaven help us should people be stupid enough to place this Stalin wannabe back in office.

    • FreedomFighter

      SHOCKING VIDEO! Police Caught in the Act of Drugging Protestors?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFyTPIJ_ADM&feature=uploademail

      “shows police officers and county deputies from across Minnesota picking up young people near Peavey Plaza for a training program to recognize drug-impaired drivers. Multiple participants say officers gave them illicit drugs and encouraged them to be informant”

      Pencil necks with power again…this is run by anti – gun anti – America entities.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • MAP

        FeedomFighter, it just keeps getting worse. Check this out:
        http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46448

      • FreedomFighter

        “As an additional example of Obama’s illegal and (I believe) highly treasonous behaviors, on 1 May and 2 May Obama issued two additional unconstitutional and illegal Executive Orders. The first E.O., issued 1 May 2012, makes the USA subject to “international regulations” as opposed to looking to and following the US Constitution. Also, with this new E.O., the US FDA will now be able to be bypassed by International committees—thus, replacing the FDA with any international group which may be chosen. In essence, Obama is quickly eliminating US Sovereignty and selling the USA to the international “community.” ”

        Obama at work again, get ready — keep your powder dry

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

        • vietnamvet1971

          Odumbo likes to Issue his Grand Commie Executive Orders on a Friday hoping no one reads or notices them, he is just a sneaky snake in the grass!

      • DaveH

        Once you realize that the Government is just the Biggest Gang in the country, taking advantage of the citizens to grow their Power and Perks, the rest of their actions become clear. Of course, being in the minority of citizens, they must brainwash the people to succeed, but as evidenced on this board — That isn’t a difficult task.

      • Flashy

        Errrr…FF…a comment on your so-called “E.O. alarm.”

        The Order(s) you pasted articles of alarm are so far out in space as to not show on the Galactic map.

        It’s just another sign the truth doesn’t matter to the far right. if this administration was involved, it will be twisted to be whined about as ‘evil’. fox McNews misreported the EO, and it went viral in the whacked out Right wing world.

        Those EO’s? the truth? it ordered an existing White House committee (created by FDR in 1933) to start a studfy, to INCLUDE the private sector, to reduce unnecessary red tape that causes problems for U.S. companies that want to work overseas. The intent is to standardize industry specs. That includes everything from different standards for warning labels to separate requirements for container sizes.

        now…how is that bad?

        • kategray

          Yhose Executive Orders are affecting you very life right now. Are you a taker or do you give you check to pay for those who will not ever get out of their own way so they can take what they have not worked for.

      • DaveH

        Oh look, Flashman is playing himself today. What happened, Flashman, does it take too much energy to play your Jeremy Leochner role?

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        Flashy if what you say is true than I imagine what FOX NEWS irs reporting is that like Obama Care, on the surface sounds good, that is not the main worrisome for the people, the worrisome is all those little parts and additives to the laws that have nothing to do with that law get thrown in there. You have to pass the Bill in order to see what is in it, does not float with many and if it is such a great thing than why did it take an EO? Nice try I dont buy it!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Flushdouche, did you like the show “All in the Family”, I so did, as a matter of fact, Archie Bunker is ONE of my all time heros! LOL!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
      • http://donr.mygofoods.com Don Ruane

        There is a simple solution to the problems we face today. I know the feeling that nothing has changed in Washington. I cast my first vote in 1960, after graduating from college, for JFK. I vividly remember what the Professional Politicians, of both parties, were promising in 1960.Guess what, they are promising the same things in 2012, but they
        never mentions our 16 Trillion Dollar of debt.
        I call my solution “Confusing our Enemy”. Our Real Enemy is the Congress. We Simply Vote for the OTHER Guy or Gal. If there is a Democrat in office, vote for the Republican. If there is a Republican in office, vote for the Democrat.
        My solution is a sneaky way to get TERM LIMITS by enforcing TERM LIMITS with our votes.
        If we all stop loving our Representatives for giving us, Band Uniforms and Post Offices, in exchange for our votes and toss them out of office, we would get a smaller government, balanced budget, fair tax system, a revamp of our criminal system and the best of all, a Term Limits Amendment to OUR CONSTITUTION.
        Also, JOBS.
        It is our responsibility, to peacefully change our Government, by REFUSING TO REELECT anyone presently in Congress. They are the one how gave us the 16 Trillion dollar Debt
        You and I were not around for the “FIRST SHOT HEARD AROUND THE WORLD”, but we will be around, on November 6 2012, to PULL THE TRIGGER ON CONGRESS and send ALL of them packing.

      • Brad

        Just a quick question for the masses, how can the labor force participation rate go down (63.9% Feb to 63.6% April, 12) and the Ohmama administration reports unemployment droped from 8.2% to 8.1%?

        My proof http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

      • http://Freedomfighter Bob

        Mortgages are fools move. We all know loans to people that can’t afford them will not work. If that were only the case. when bush came in office gas went up frome 2 dollars to 5. The people that were paying 50 dollars a week to go to work were now paying 125 I bealeve that morgages were a cover up for fuel prices. Watch when gas prices go down and stay food prices will stay up and thay will blame that on morgages to.

    • James Andrews

      I don’t even know if heaven will help us if we have to live through four mour years of this fascist and his leftist henchmen and women. The founding forefathers would have ALREADY revolted, had they had to put up with this much crap.

      • DaveH

        We can’t even get people to educate themselves and vote properly. The last thing any of them would do is to risk their lives.

      • Flashy

        DaveH….don’t you find it interesting that there is one article where it has the “southerners’ talking tough…yet the ones on the streets and, in fact, risking health and limb, in dedicated action are those who are Progressive? or take the anti-war demionstrations held as Bush II and Cheney were lying…and being supported by the Right. Who marched in protest, braved the police lines, and had photo’s taken by survelliance? Yep…those in the north.

        tends to support the theory that those who talk tough, when it comes right down to it…they’ll talk the talk, but won’t walk the walk. The Far Right contingent sat silently or stood in support as Bush II and Cheney trampled over our Rights and referred to the US Constitution as “that quaint document”. if Pres. Obama stated such, you’d all would go nuts in a frenzy. But it was their skin they wouldn’t take a risk on…they whined and cried to be safe. it was the Left and the progressives who stood tall.

        • http://jheasler12175.wordpress.com jheasler12175

          …”that quaint document”? Can you reference the conversation, video, or recording that particular quote is from? I will gladly read or refer to it for further edification.

      • DaveH

        Protesting is easy, Flashman, when you’re living on other peoples’ money.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        James our forefathers would’ve already put a musket ball in his grill!!! PROBLEM SOLVED! And they are a bunch of chicken-sh!ts, they know what they want to do but the closest thing they can come with to a set of balls is Janeane Garofolo! LOL!!! Well there’s Rosie, and speakin’ of, this is the perfect example of how lunatic you idiots are!!! Here Rosie, queerer than all get out, protestin’ with the Muslims to build their “rabbat” at ground zero, when if she was even allowed to set one of her fat feet in their country, they would bury her up to her triple chin and bash her fat head in with alley apples!!!
        Flushdouche, this just goes to prove your true IQ! Yesser Arafat made an art out of sending Palestinian youths out in the streets to battle Israeli troops armed only with rocks and bottles!!! You know, USEFUL IDIOTS! Now let’s look at something that happened on Black Friday last year Flush. Do you know what set a new all time one day sales record that day Flushmeister?!… GUNS Flush! Do you know what day is second for the amount of guns sold in a 24 hr. period Einstein?!… The day following the election of Barack Hussein Obama Jr.!!! Don’t get caught in an gunfight with a half a brick ya bunch of dumba$$es! I don’t think there’s any hope for him DaveH!!!

      • Opal the Gem

        “…”that quaint document”? Can you reference the conversation, video, or recording that particular quote is from? I will gladly read or refer to it for further edification.”

        Jheasler don’t yhold your breath waiting for a source or link from flashy for he never has one. All he ever has for reference is his own imigination.

    • http://google debbie

      i am soooo tired of people disrespecting PRESIDENT obama. DO you the so called coserritives have such a narrow view , talk about being brainwashed .TELL me you all believe any thing that your party say? Do all of u forget how we got hear? WE need regulations .BUSH W.GOT rid of a lot of regulations and look what the banks did ,REMEMBER..AND PRESIDENT obama has tried working with congress the party that say NO. IF u all need to blame some one BLAME the party that would rather default on our debt and get noting done .AND WHY? can not let my PRESIDENT get no credit onany thing. AND u the tea party and u so called true american {conservitives} WE the people spoke when PRESIDENT got elected so stop whining

      • kategray

        Debbie you were brainwashed by the HOPE AND CHANGE. Our hope is down the toilet and the change is going towards socialism. This is the only country in the world where your dreams can come ture, if you work for it. No where does it say that I have to support all the things that go against my moral leanings.

      • vietnamvet1971

        DUH before you get to excited and have a heart attack, remember the 2010 midterm election? “We the People” elected a republican Majority to keep your president in check. Also ask your majority senate leader harry reid to produce a budget they have not in 3 years. How is that Promised “Hope & Change” going for you. Or is it called “Hype & Blame” now. He promised you the Moon and he is trying to changer our country for the Worse.

      • George E

        Debbie,

        You only see what is going on right now. Go back and look at how awful liberals treated Republican Presidents since Richard Nixon. If you do with an open mind, I’m pretty sure you’ll find that the overall discourse has been negative for a long time regardless who is President. I’m also pretty sure you’ll find out that Democratic presidents haven’t been treated any worse than Republican presidents.

        Speaking of being “brainwashed,” your comments look like a collage of Democratic Party talking points. You’ve obviously been drinking a lot of Kool-Aid yourself.

        Regarding working with the President, Republicans were elected to office to try to take the government in significantly opposite directions than Obama and the Democrats want to take it. One can make a pretty good argument that a majority of American voters decided in 2012 that they weren’t happy with Democrats since the voters elected a majority of Republicans to the House of Representatives. Polls show that President Obama isn’t exactly winning the hearts and minds of a majority of voters to support his ideologies right now either. Again, if you look back at history, I think you’ll find that President Obama has compromised less with members of the other party to get legislation passed than any President in modern American history, probably since FDR. If you wanted more legislative accomplishments under this administration, you should point the finger at Obama and the Democratically controlled houses of Congress. They have been unwilling to work with the Republicans.

  • vietnamvet1971

    I do not feel sorry for the little butt sucking obozo cult follower. Now what government job will he sneak into. He is not smart enough to get a private sector job. So he will most likely keep sucking on the Big Government Tit.

    • Gary L

      He won’t have to sneek. Obama will shamelessly appoint him to another position, and nobody will do more than cry foul, if that. Obama does what he wants to because noboby will stand up and say ENOUGH.

      • JUKEBOX

        He will probably get a multi million dollar grant to study some useless project.

    • Harlan

      you guys are just a bunch of mitwits vietnamvet1968

  • cawmun cents

    As it is no surprise to anyone who reads my posts,I am a citizen of the Socialiste Democratique Republik of Caliph-on-ya.Last sunday at my church I ran into my tree trimmer,and the guy tells me that he can no longer afford to run his business because of environ(mental) regulations.Apparently he is but one of many parishoners who’s businesses have run afoul of the federal,state,and local ordinances designed to”protect”folks from themselves.
    I’ll say this again for all you progressives out there in Tardsville….
    When your laws usurp an individuals rights to make a living at what he does,you are destroying the environment,not protecting it.When you use what powers you may think you wield for hurting the small businessman,you are driving a nail in your own coffin.
    Nobody but the blind and indigent will see this as saving the environment.
    The problem is one of parameters,the condition is one of arrogance.
    As a progressive,it would seem that you clearly do not understand the parameters of the environment.
    If you are putting legitimate businessfolk out of legitimate business,how can you be helping the environment?
    How small is the box your sight comes forth from?
    Some citiot somewhere decides the fate of hard working entrepeneurs,while the maid polishes the law degree in the cubicle/office they work from,and the world is somehow made a better place?
    Let me make this perfectly clear.
    WE ARE TIRED OF YOUR RULES AND REGULATIONS STRANGLING OUR WAY OF LIFE!Personally I dont care if you consider yourself a crusader for the Delta Smelt.
    Where I come from,”They who Smelta it Delta it.”And it sure smells rotten where you been lately.
    Look,when your regulation kills business,then how can your perfunctory regulation hope to survive?
    Do you think you can just roll money off the presses perpetually?
    Can you squeeze blood from a turnip?
    You dont even see that you are destroying your own ability to function.
    You cant get monies from folks who arent making any.
    How does that protect your environment?
    You people are insane.
    You are killing yourself to live.
    You think that living longer is the ticket to success,but then you want to destroy the quality of life,and live a mundane existence,hoping it will engender some type of false hope of euphoria.
    What utter fallacial fools you have become?
    How can you protect an environment that destroys itself from within?
    When my tree trimmer goes out of business,you have hurt his environment,my environment,everyone who gets their trees trimmed by him’s environment.
    I would normally stop here but it is clear that you do not understand the scope of the environment,so I will continue.His family;s environment is hurt,his neighbors environment is hurt,his churches environment is hurt,his local and extended communities environment is hurt,his states environment is hurt,his nations environment is hurt,his worlds environment is hurt.
    You as the lawmaker have hurt everyone to protect the regulations you have made into law.
    I dont know the particulars of whatever,persons,places,things,you perceive yourself as protecting,but you are way out of line with reality.
    McFly?
    Cheers!
    -CC.

    • Warrior

      cc, it’s about how the gubmint helps you out in life. The propaganda minister n’ chief has shared his dream girl with the world.

      http://www.townhallmail.com/zfmjrctbjjwkrbjbkbrptkgllfkllbftddpcqrwsfssfwm_zdlrfbfmzmr.html

      • DaveH

        It is heartening to see so many women becoming Conservative and active in politics.

    • Karolyn

      It’s all a matter of balance. Apparently, the gov. doesn’t know how to do that. Of course they have no problem with huge companies blowing the tops off mountains for coal, destroying the landscape forever, but they will hassle the small business person with pesky regulations.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      You will have no jobs except those given to you by the government! It is coming!

    • eddie47d

      Kindly tell us CC why the tree trimmer would be going out of business by running afoul of environmental regulations. Please tell the whole story(was he illegally dumping his cut down product). Tree trimmers in Colorado can make $ 3-5,000 a tree if cut down and quite a bit just for trimming so it can’t be a money problem. Safety is a big issue for them but that wouldn’t fall under the environment. Trees are good for the environment and a well maintained tree even better.Most homeowners love a shade tree in their yard so there is no shortage of trees to be trimmed or kept off of power lines. Most environmental regulations are wise and needed for the protection of our health and well being so they do help people. Yet I will listen to your tree trimmers explanation.

      • Flashy

        good post. Excellent

      • JeffH

        My, my! Falsy admiring eddie’s comment…a new low for you Falsy when you’re reduced to a backup role to support eddie, taking into consideration the fact that neither of you have enough combined credibility to carry any weight here.

      • cawmun cents

        Well I dont have the information whether regulation that bogs down the ability to conduct daily business is good for the environment or not.But I can tell you that if your regulatory actions consist of gubment sources,then by killing the businessman,arent you shooting yourself in the private parts?After all you cant get taxwes to run your giant gubment from making money that grows on trees,right?You need the person to generate an income so you can steal from them to run your huge-ass gubment juggernaut,dont you?
        If your income generators arent generating,then where are your regulators going to make the money at?
        Answer:(its a daily double too!)
        What is printing fiat currency for 2000 Alex.
        Which sorely devalues all the other fiat currency,correct?
        Or do you suppose that money grows on trees,so that when you put my tree trimming buddy out of business,you wind up with more money?
        So there you go eddie47d,you can slice,dice,and frappe it any way you please,but when you regulate the man out of business,your money trees will overflow into your economy.
        Then when you go to the Company Store TM,to pick up a loaf of bread,you can push your wheelbarrow all the way there,because the cash you need to purchase the bread with,will be too much for your Chevy Volt TM,to carry.
        Thanks for shopping…..
        -CC.

      • DaveH

        Eddie says — “Most environmental regulations are wise and needed for the protection of our health and well being so they do help people”.
        They are, Eddie? And you can back that statement up?
        For the intelligent readers who know the word of a Progressive can’t be trusted:
        http://www.scribd.com/doc/53100815/Wayne-Crews-10-000-Commandments-2011

      • carrobin

        Funny how people will sit back and allow corporations to destroy their land and water and air, just because they’re persuaded that they’ll get some money out of it. The Keystone XL pipeline oil is going to China anyway, that’s why it’s aimed for the Gulf. So what if the Midwest is poisoned, as long as a few thousand people have jobs for a year or two. So what if we can’t breathe the air or drink the water or go swimming or ever eat shrimp and oysters again. Hey, we need the oil, the coal, the money, the money, the money…..

      • JeffH

        carrobin

      • JeffH

        carrobin, you make no sense. If you really think the bulk of the TransCanada/Keystone XL oil is going to go to China via the Texas Gulfcould you explain the economic advantage of moving it all of the extra miles to get the oil to China for me?
        ________________________________________________

        Here are some rough mileage calculations to consider

        1a – The approx distance Winnipeg to the Canada west coast is approx. 1650 miles +-

        1b – The approx. miles from Canada west coast to Shanghai China is approx. 4600 nautical miles +-.

        2a The distance from Winnipeg to Houston is approx. 1400 miles +-

        2b – The distance from Houston Texas to Shanghai China is approx. 6600 nautical miles +-

        1a + 1b – 1650 + 4600 = 6250 miles Winnipeg to Shanghai
        2a + 2b – 1400 + 6600 = 8200 miles Winnipeg to Shanghai

        I’ll let you figure it out from here but I’ll remind you that if the oil is destined for China anyway, why would they opt to transport it an extra 2000 miles to Texas?

      • DaveH

        And these are the people, Jeff, who think they know best how to run our lives.

      • eddie47d

        The same reason China is buying oil from Venezuela,Cuba and Brazil. So the distance isn’t a valid excuse Jeff yet you try hard to make it so.

        • George E

          Eddie,

          Does it make sense to you that they would send the oil to Texas if they are going to ship it to China anyway? What justification do you think there might be for doing that? It’d sure be a lot less trouble for them to build the pipeline to the Canadian west coast, wouldn’t it?

      • JeffH

        DaveH, LMAO! It’s that same kind of thinking that goes into the decision making in Kommiefornia.

        I’m sure you’re aware of the “Bullit Train” debacle in California. The first proposed section is to be built between Madera -Bakersfield. Mind you, AMTRAK is a financial loser and Bakersfield to LA requires a bus ride because there is no AMTRAK line from Bakersfield to LA, other than by bus. Now you’d think that establishing a somewhat profitable rail line between Bakersfield and LA would be the logical choice for starters…not so. Now, if AMTRAK is a loser, why would one believe that a high speed rail would be a winner, especially between Madera and Bakersfield(think train to nowhere).
        That, and I know you know it, is the logic of the liberal mind.

      • eddie47d

        Blame the Liberals Blame the Liberals! Squawk Squawk! You can honestly say that this will be a Liberal operated train and Conservatives aren’t involved in building the line. Maybe there is some slick Conservative who will get the train built and buy out the bus company in Bakersfield and make a ton of money transporting those passengers to LA. Get back to me when you come up with the real skinny.

      • JeffH

        eddie, will you ever quit making a fool of yourself?

        answer: Never, because your’s is forever!
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL6wbsGx9qw

        Stupid is as stupid does!
        Forrest Gump

        • Tom W.

          LOL!!! Quit it man!

      • JeffH

        …and eddie, it’s not my fault that you can’t comprehend what people say here.

      • independent thinker

        As I understand it Canada is already planning or building a pipiline to their west coast to ship part of the oil directly to China. If that is the case it would make absolutely no sense to pipe it to Texas then ship it to China.

    • GALT

      For cawmun, et al……you started to make a point……..YOU FAILED.

      WHY? You didn’t provide any useful information……..no details, no facts……you are so comfortable here on this site…….as a choir member…….that you are operating on the same standards as the “headliner’s” that suck you in each an every day, doing the same thing to YOU. You made a statement…….citing cause and effect……….and then produce a ream of useless rhetoric………..which demonstrates one thing………you are a victim and your choice is to remain one, because your solution……is to COMPLAIN!!!!!!

      So point ONE!!!!!! Do not confuse yourself and your interests with either Mr. Livingston’s
      or the people that contribute to this site as “headliner’s……..each of them has an “agenda”, and they are promoting it………for profit……..you are a source of that profit,
      ( potentially ) and regardless of what they claim to “believe”……they are essentially getting
      PAID to be here………..YOU ARE NOT!!!!! ( this becomes even more ABSURD when you realize that the primary message is one of impending DOOM and hopelessness, and which only a fool would wish for or advocate as a desirable out come, and even more
      stupid when you consider the totally opposite message being delivered which is: you can profit from this ( impending doom ) if only you would do: ( insert “solution” here and add
      $$$$$$$$ amount, fiat money gladly accepted )

      POINT TWO; for cawmun, specifically……….this was YOUR “tree trimmer”……and there for
      your problem………( which is pretty local and for which you already share “common cause”
      within your church……and community ) so whatever the facts are: you need to find out,
      and then ACT on it!!!!!!!!

      The effort here is a simple phone call to your tree trimmer to penetrate the mystery of
      those journalistic questions, which are no longer the standard of so called journalist’s.

      Do not assume that you know where this will lead……….follow the trail…..which will take
      a little effort……..but since you all seem to like those little “patriotic” quotes from those
      thrilling days of yester year ( which none of you really understand or would want to return to )…….. ” The price of liberty ( freedom ) is ETERNAL VIGILANCE.”

      • George E

        Galt,

        I’m curious. What describes your political philosophy best? Communism? Anarchy? Socialism? Progressivism? Liberalism? Democratic Party? Other?

        You obviously have some very strong political differences with most participants on this site. Why do you continue coming back? Is someone paying you to disrupt this site and spread your political ideologies here? Just curious.

      • DaveH

        He’s a Progressive, George. And as such, don’t expect an honest answer to your question.
        And that’s an awful lot of verbiage, Galt, to say almost nothing.

  • dan

    …better order more tar and feathers .
    Drug test puplic servents …especially cops

  • http://httpaol.com sean murry

    I think a couple thousand of these turkey neck geeks should be fired.

  • Rafael

    Close the EPA.

    • Karolyn

      Should be “moderate the EPA”. Without the EPA, we’d still have rivers full of pollution and be gagging on the air we breathe.

      • MAP

        Another display of the utter failure of the general government. No matter the hype of good intentions, the end result is yet more corruption and incompetence. A bulldog agency running roughshod over the citizens and led by a pseudo-intellectual with dubious intentions. Only a fool would have expected anything else.
        And how much is this “service” costing me?

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Karolyn, we already have that. The epa doesn’t care about our air and water. They exist only to control and intimidate.

      • DaveH

        Karolyn,
        That is just not true. To ameliorate the pollution condition, we simply need some explicit laws. Victims of Pollution can then take the creators to court.
        To put such Power in the hands of Unelected Political Bureaucrats who don’t suffer the scrutiny of the voters is just asking for trouble. If you would take the time to read this book (you can borrow it from the Library), you will find out, Karolyn, that the bulk of regulations are designed to promote favored Crony Capitalists:
        http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Ripoff-Business-Government/dp/0471789070/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336141077&sr=8-1

        When you don’t educate yourself, Karolyn, you play right into the hands of the very people you seem to dislike.

      • MAP

        You are exactly right DaveH. It is a collusion of the sword and the purse. Only the well connected survive.

      • TML

        “Should be “moderate the EPA”. Without the EPA, we’d still have rivers full of pollution and be gagging on the air we breathe.”

        I think it should be to the States to regulate pollution, and/or dismantle the consolidation power known as the EPA into divisions which are given authority under specific enabling acts of congress… such as OSHA. In comparison, EPA was established by Executive Order under Nixon. Consolidations of power by federal government will always be incompetent and despotic in practice, more than it will be effective. States should handle their own environmental issues, and the federal government should only be involved in regards to interstate environmental issues.

        • kategray

          And what of COMMON SENSE. People will do what must be done and BIG GOVERNMENT does not need to step in and not allow people to use the brains that God gave to each and everyone of us.

      • TML

        I concur DaveH

      • MAP

        TML, your comment is like a breath of fresh air. Dead on the mark!

      • Flashy

        TML…you’re correct in that the EPA was created by Nixon via an EO to consolidate various agencies and streamline the implementation of NEPA, Clean Water and Clean Air Acts. As Congress passed more environmental laws, Congressional legitimacy was given by explicitly stating in legislation certain regulatory powers and duties were the baliwick of the EPA.

        As for pollution laws being a “state’s rights issue’….ummmm how would you handle the issue when pollution crosses the state lines into another state? Especially is that second state was more stringent about what the levels of acceptable pollution were?

      • TML

        Flashy says, “As for pollution laws being a “state’s rights issue’….ummmm how would you handle the issue when pollution crosses the state lines into another state? Especially is that second state was more stringent about what the levels of acceptable pollution were?”

        Based on the fact that the Constitution is a compact BETWEEN states, as opposed to a compact OVER the states… a dispute of such between states (as I mentioned above) is the legitimate role of federal government to mediate (not dictate) interstate relations and disputes to resolve localized matters, which facilitates diplomacy, rather than having blanket regulation that may not reasonably be applied everywhere at all times, which becomes inefficient, ineffective, and as we can see… sometimes even despotic. Property rights come heavily into consideration. I just don’t believe that an all encompassing centralized entity, with unelected officials, is needed to address your concerns.

        Btw… thanks MAP

    • eddie47d

      Sorry TML most environmental problems concern more than one state. Such as waterways,air pollution and chemical spills and that is where the EPA come in. Now Dave H say people who occur damages from environmental damages should go to court. How many cities,states or individuals have the money to take on any business in a court of law? The responsibility for environmental damages fall on the company doing the damages not the unsuspecting homeowner or community. It’s up to those businesses to conduct themselves with the safety of the community in mind not for the community to spend limited resources fighting them in court. We don’t have Superfund sites all over this country because businesses were responsible and we shouldn’t have to waste our tax dollars fighting these damages in court.

      • DaveH

        We would have plenty of money, Eddie, to take the perps to court, if Big Government wasn’t spending over 40% of our GDP. And if Government wasn’t meddling in the Justice System, forcing a monopoly on the legal profession through licensing and other impediments, lawyers wouldn’t be able to get away with charging their outlandish rates ($250/hr and upwards).

      • Flashy

        DaveH…so you take the position a small, business or single individual will have the resources in the cost and expense and the time involved…and take on a Big Corporation or another state?

        Uh huh … sure…

      • eddie47d

        Not sure what the government has to do with the outlandish incomes lawyers make since they make those amounts in Private litigation. In other words they would be soaking us no matter whether the government would be involved or not. I do believe Dave and I would agree than if we stopped being the world’s policemen the government could reduce their spending and our GDP does need to be driven downward to sensible levels.

      • JeffH

        Falsy, why is it that your progressive education teaches you liberals to start sentence with “So you…” or “what you are saying”?

        Just curious because it so normal for your ilk to respond to comments with pure assumtive questions. I know the answer but I’d rather hear it straight from the “horses” mouth.

      • TML

        eddie47d says, “Sorry TML most environmental problems concern more than one state. Such as waterways,air pollution and chemical spills and that is where the EPA come in.”

        You are apologizing… why?
        I have pointed out that interstate relations concerning pollution is the legitimate role of federal government, however, I do not believe that a single centralized agency, established by Executive Order, with administrators appointed by the president (who is not scientifically qualified to make assessments on the qualification of said administrator, is efficient. Federal laws regarding waterways and air pollution, passed by congress should be sufficient. We don’t need an independent agency writing regulations as law, or ‘delegating’ responsibilities States. Aside from these interstate pollution concerns, domestic pollution should be the sole responsibility of the State.

        As for the court system… it would be less about individuals taking corporations to court, and more about the State(s) taking a corporation to court, coupled with urging neighboring states with less strict pollution laws to be more strict. There doesn’t need to be an imperialist federal entity to dictate these issues. They could be handled by divisionary entities, such as OSHA, and certainly be more efficient.

      • DaveH

        Flashdunce says — “DaveH…so you take the position a small, business or single individual will have the resources in the cost and expense and the time involved…and take on a Big Corporation or another state?”.
        Talk about the typical Fallacious Flashman comment. First of all you’re assuming, Flashman, that the pollution would somehow just affect one individual, or small business — pretty far-fetched. And Secondly, those same individuals and small businesses suffer currently under onerous Government mandates, such as those from the EPA. What recourse do they have in that? And if the Government wasn’t consuming a huge portion of our money with large bureaucratic agencies, they would have plenty of resources to litigate against the occasional law-breaking polluter. Also, Flashdunce, you forget about Tort Lawyers who are more than happy to take on large organizations on a contingency basis.

      • DaveH

        Eddie,
        the answer to your question is Licensing and other ways that Government protects the existing Lawyers from competition. What business is it to them if I chose to have a lay person argue for me? Like most other Government meddling in the Marketplace, it is meant mainly to protect those who contribute to get them re-elected at the expense of the rest of us.

  • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

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  • Sirian

    This is a very good example as to the motives behind not only Obummer and his cohorts but even more so the radical environmentalists!! And there is always a flurry of deeply committed ones that show up here in grand defense of this area. What they will never realize though is that they are pointing the environmental gun at themselves and have their finger on the very fast regulatory trigger. They’ll end up shooting themselves in the head, not the foot. Once the triggers are pulled, stand back, more and more will joyfully think they have accomplished an act so divine. BS!!! We’re totally over-run with idiots of this sort and what’s worse – we’ve allowed it!!!

    • MAP

      Very sad and true, Sirian.

    • DaveH

      The wind-generators in this picture demonstrate the hypocrisy of those who claim to be concerned about the environment. I have to pass by these garish monsters every time I visit my kids in California:
      http://groffoto.com/2008/06/03/wind-palms-a-freight-train/palm-25-2/

      Imagine the gnashing of teeth we would have heard from the Environmentalists if the wind-generator concept had been promoted by Conservatives.

      • Sirian

        Such a lovely sight to see. Honestly, I’d feel the same if I had to pass by that monstrosity too. We have some back here in Oklahoma but not on the super scale that they have there.
        Yes, it’s quite commonplace for the enviro-freaks to raise the pitch of their objections on a regular basis. Bring up anything enviro related and they go totally bonkers if you don’t agree with their fanciful utopia. Have we not seen such rhetoric here before? Yep, sure have!

      • George E

        Maybe the left would support oil wells if we put a wind turbine generator on each one to pump the oil out of the ground. That’s a vision………….ha.

        • RichE

          I like it! Green oil!

      • eddie47d

        Heck I’ve heard Conservatives complain about having a Cell Tower placed in their neighborhood. (NIMBY) yet they would be the main beneficiary of such towers. You will also find Conservatives who will stick Derrick’s and Natural Gas Wells in their back yards even if their neighbors find them offensive and cause water contamination. Years ago their use to be rumblings about those huge receiver dishes people would place in their yards. Everyone has a complaint and a bone to pick about something. Not sure why you guys are so offended by Windmills but will accept miles of oil derricks which can be even more unsightly. Now I’m not against cell towers (there is one 3 blocks away) yet all structures should be up to the neighborhood whether natural gas rigs or windmills. We have several windmills in Colorado and alternative energy sources are 25% of our energy usage and could be 30% soon. Windmills do kill a few birds but nothing like the ground contamination that is produced by those other sources. It really should be up to what the community will tolerate.

        • George E

          Eddie,

          I wouldn’t mind the windmills if they didn’t remind me how the government is wasting our money subsidizing the wind industry while doing everything they can to depress the development of our fossil fuel industries. Heck, I like wind and solar technologies, but I don’t like government interference in the market, and these windmills remind me of that every time I see them. On that point, I’d probably be a little less offended if the government was pushing (or better yet, getting out of the way) of all of our industries, instead of favoring wind and solar.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        I have no problem with alternative sources of energy. But they should be paid for by the people who will profit by them, not by the taxpayers. These latest boondoggles have simply been a way to steal money from the people and give it to those who support the government.

      • eddie47d

        Considering that oil companies like most businesses receive tax breaks and some receive subsidies you seem to be the ones with that “moral” dilemma.

      • eddie47d

        That brings up the fact that oil companies receive large tax breaks and have gotten government subsidies.

      • DaveH

        Eddie,
        I see you’re back to your mindless comments — Broad Generalizations, Sweeping Assumptions, and fabricated facts.
        We are talking about the fact that the environmentalists complain about occasional oil spills, unsightly oil rigs, and other such blights, but seem perfectly happy to dot the landscape with garish wind-generators at the taxpayers’ expense. In other words, they are hypocrites.

      • eddie47d

        Prove any fabrication Dave or take a hike with your mindless attacks.

      • JeffH

        eddie, your whole being is a fabrication! You’ve been proven a liar, a fabricator, a fool and a slanderer so many times it’s pathetic and the effort to do so is no longer needed. You’ve no credibility…20-0 ring a bell?

        All anyone that comes here has to do is read your ignorant comments to see you haven’t a clue as to what you say. You can’t even understand 90% of what others say and your comments all to often reflect that. And that’s the bottom line!

      • DaveH

        Eddie says — “Heck I’ve heard Conservatives complain about having a Cell Tower placed in their neighborhood. (NIMBY) yet they would be the main beneficiary of such towers”.
        Fabrication.
        Eddie says — “You will also find Conservatives who will stick Derrick’s and Natural Gas Wells in their back yards even if their neighbors find them offensive and cause water contamination”.
        Fabrication. As a matter of fact, Liberals have proven time and again that they are the ones who care little about other peoples’ desires and needs, and are the first ones to force their way on others, and take others’ money.
        Eddie says — “Not sure why you guys are so offended by Windmills but will accept miles of oil derricks which can be even more unsightly”.
        Who said we were either, Eddie? Have you heard any Conservatives trying to Force their way on the people who want to have Wind Generators that they pay for out of their own pockets? Yet, the Liberals have no problems forcing their Wind Generators on the rest of us, even to the point of using our unwilling money.
        Eddie says — “It really should be up to what the community will tolerate”.
        But what Eddie really means is that it should be up to Liberals to force that community to tolerate, and pay for, whatever those Liberals’ hearts desire.

      • Opal the Gem

        “You will also find Conservatives who will stick Derrick’s…”

        Another fabrication from eddie. How about we call this one a 90% fabrication because although it has been decades since the oil was pumped using ‘Derrick’s’ it is necessary to have one while drilling. As far as having a well in your backyard. You would have to have a he!l of a big backyard to get a rig in to drill the well.

  • Steve E

    All businesses and people should withhold paying their taxes to the IRS at once. The the gov’t will go broke and have no power.

    • George E

      Steve E,

      The government is already broke………….

      • Steve E

        But if the bondholders find out that people are not paying, they will stop buying them, and the printed money will not be any good.

      • Harlan

        Go ahead vote for the mittwit ande well all be poor. I like reading these but i am just reminded of why things arnt working in the usa. I fought in vietnam for you idiots. You all sound like archie bunker

      • George E

        Harlan,

        Thank you for your service. Did you fight for this country so our politicians could make it a socialist country?

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        According to the feds as long as they can keep printing fiat money they will never go broke

        • George E

          Steve,

          Yep. That’s what they say……There wouldn’t be any need for the Fed to buy US debt (print money) if our politicians didn’t continually create this debt by spending too much money. And, politician wouldn’t be quite as inclined to spend so much money if they didn’t think it “buys” our vote. (They would still spend too much on crap the government has no business being involved in, but I think it would slow down some if they weren’t trying to buy votes.) So, in the end, the Fed “prints” fiat money because citizens expect too much from the government, and our whore politicians are all too glad to accommodate us with promises of obligations “we” can’t keep to ourselves……………ugh!

      • George E

        Sorry. My last response should have been directed to Brad, not Steve.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      The taxes they collect are inconsequential. They can and do print as much money as they want!

      • Steve E

        See comment just above yours.

      • DaveH

        You’re grasping at straws, Steve. Nancy is right. The Federal Reserve would just create more money to buy the Government Bonds, and Government would keep on trucking, meanwhile jailing those who refused to pay the taxes.
        You need to read this book, Steve, so you can better understand the concept of Money:
        http://mises.org/books/whathasgovernmentdone.pdf

      • DaveH
      • Steve E

        It seems to me then that they should not have any taxes since they can just print money. Why not just print money and drop it our of helicopters so everyone will be rich. If you suggest that that will greatly devalue the dollar, then my first comment about not paying taxes would to the job because we could then devalue the dollar for which the gov’t could not pay it’s bills except to keep printing and keep devaluing. Eventually something will have to give, Won’t it?

      • DaveH

        Steve,
        Why don’t you just admit you don’t know what you’re talking about, instead of going on and on trying to defend the indefensible?
        Of course the Government Gang prefers to tax us, as well as taxing us the hidden way (by money creation and it’s resultant price inflation). They will use as many different methods to relieve us from our money as we let them get away with.
        But that wasn’t the issue. The issue was that you think we could get together,quit paying taxes, and solve the problem. I simply illustrated that you were Hoping and Dreaming.

    • http://Google Gary Gerke

      How do you stop the private Federal reserve from printing worthless money 24-hours a day. There is a growing estimate that they have exceeded $116 billion dollars in total worthless paper!

      • DaveH

        Here is the True Money Supply as calculated by the non-political Austrian economists:
        http://mises.org/content/nofed/chart.aspx?series=TMS

        • RichE

          That needs to be plotted against Money Demand for a truer picture.

      • DaveH

        That is a non-sequitur, Rich, everybody demands more money.

  • Richardm

    Haha ! What a fool ! The Turks first conquered ‘Turkey’ over a thousand years after the Romans ruled there. So if the Romans did indeed crucify someone there, he wasn’t a Turk.

  • RivahMitch

    He hardly got “what he deserves”. He’s still upright and breathing. Sic semper tyranus.

  • Paul McCauley

    I can’t believe this attitude and such horribly negative points of view. We live in the greatest country in the world. So many of thes writers seem to have lost sight of that. Yes, our country has problems, it always has but it’s still the greatest country in the world. I’m a proud American and a WWII vet.

    • MAP

      Mr. McCauley, Revolution is as American as apple pie. This country was founded on revolution. When they exited the Constitutional Convention and someone asked B. Franklin what type of government do we have, he replied, “A republic – if you can keep it.” Jefferson wrote that a revolution every once in a while was a good thing for the preservation of libery. Indeed, the notion that we are a union of sheep is quite contrary to history.

      • DaveH

        Revolution is a very undesirable event, one which the outcome (win or lose) is very much unknown. Without an educated populace, even if we won, the Sociopathic Leaders would likely be replaced with a different set of Sociopathic Leaders.
        The only logical tactic is to educate the vast collection of ignorant voters who, through no fault of their own, have been severely Propagandized by the Media and by the Propaganda Schools. The pen is mightier than the sword.

        • George E

          Right on. The real “war” is winning the hearts and minds of the American people. The left has been successful in controlling most of our cultural centers, and working to a long time line. This has given them an advantage in controlling the “messages” that citizens receive and changing the values that are a cornerstone of our society.

          • RichE

            You mean the socialists are more successful at being social?

      • MAP

        DaveH, I’m not advocating that we begin assembling militias, only that we are not a people to accept anything and everything that our overlords dictate. In theory, I agree with your comment. Bur how to achieve it. The entire apparatus of propaganda is operated by the same faction that controls everything else. Your comment proves why you spend so much time here. But at the same time, most of the posters (those zombies led by the evil DNC) don’t become any the more informed. And there is the question of the entrenched powers. How are they to be overcome? I am very dubious and pessimistic about our future. The fact that the population of this country would place, first, the neocon lackey Bush, and, then, the totalitarian, communist Obama in the WH doesn’t give me much room for hope. There are many fine organizations out there trying, desperately, to educate the people, but check how small their membership base is. Meanwhile, things are racing toward a very catastrophic conclusion. Time will tell…

      • DaveH

        Actually, MAP, thanks to Bob Livingston and others, I have seen many of the regulars on this site grow intellectually. There are those of course, like Flashman, who have no intent on growing intellectually because they are part of the cancer that is parasitizing our ignorant citizens. Our task is to demonstrate to the readers that the Progressives are doing what’s best for themselves, not what’s best for the people in general.
        I must admit that it is bewildering to me that so many people embrace the illogical Progressive agenda even though in actual practice it has failed miserably throughout the world.
        One would think that, since the Progressives have neither Logic nor Experience on their side, their Siren song would mostly fall on deaf ears. It just goes to show how truly dumbed-down the citizens have become.

        • RichE

          That’s because you don’t understand human nature. That’ll give you a clearer understanding as to what’s going on here.

      • DaveH

        Very few people understand human nature like I understand human nature, Rich. But what has that got to do with anything?

      • JON

        Sorry, but apple pie originated in Europe. The history of the good old apple pie goes back a very long way. There is a English recipe that dates back to 1381. Although, without of a shadow of a doubt, apples cooked in pies predates this by many 100′s of years. It’s not as American as you thought.

    • George E

      Paul,

      We agree with you, but we don’t like what the government is doing to our businesses. Government regulations have gotten way out of control and are killing many jobs. These are the jobs that we need to help fund the programs that many want to “enjoy.”

    • DaveH

      Perhaps, Paul. But does that mean we should sit idly by while this Greatest Country’s Leaders pillage us and usurp our Freedom?

    • eddie47d

      I’ll agree with Dave on this one since revolutions seldom play out very well in many countries and quite often they are counterproductive. I do agree that people should be educated and prepared in case one does come along for a failed revolution is a hard hurdle to overcome.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Paul, we all love our country very much but our country is slowly being conquered by the Marxists, socialists, communists (take your pick) that have infiltrated our government. It didn’t just start with this administration. It has been going on for years and both political parties have been infiltrated. The process has been rapidly increasing with this president. We are losing our constitutional rights at a rate never seen before. Do some online research about the patriot act, the ndaa, agenda 21, the un treaties being signed by our presidents and the executive orders that have been passed by our presidents. It is so shocking! At first you won’t believe it but if you continue to search you will find sources that you will trust. I wrote to my senator about agenda 21 and he confirmed that it is real and it was signed by our president. It has not yet been ratified by congress but when you read about it you will be shocked that anything so crazy could even be considered. There is a whole other world of government that you will never hear about on the tv. Please educate yourself and then try to educate others around you. At first people will say you’re a nut but eventually people will have to wake up and see what is going on around them. This is the battle between good and evil.

  • Howard Roark

    Its all part of Obummers plan to destroy the fossil fuel industries. remember the spech in which he said “you can build a coal fired power plant but you will go bankurupt because the emmission fines you will pay will break you,” then he went on to say that under my plan, by nessesity your electric bills will skyrocket.” you see Obummer has got this insane idea that he can completely replace the fossil fuels with green energy. ever try to fly an aircraft with solar panels.

    • eddie47d

      A weak attempt at humor Howard. Aircraft also don’t fly on coal. LOL

      • independent thinker

        Theoreticaly you can fly an airplane on coal by converting the coal to jet fuel.

  • http://jheasler12175.wordpress.com jheasler12175

    Unfortunately, Armendariz is just the tip of the iceberg at EPA. The organization is infested with cockroaches just like him whose life mission is to save the planet by forcing a nation of 300 million people to pay $10/gl fuel prices, the resulting concomitant increase in the price of everything, and a reduction in world food supplies as these morons keep demanding that food be used to produce ethonal. They’re delusional and dangerous. It’s time to go back to the days of a House Un-American Activities Committee and start investigating the money flow from the obama administration to ACORN, SEIU, Media Matters, so-called green-energy-friends-of-obama companies, and back to the obama administration and PACS as campaign contributions. His campaign is being financed with taxpayer dollars and is basically the scam of the century putting even Bernie Madoff to shame. These crooks are systematically looting the treasury.

    • DaveH

      No, jheasler, their life mission is to NOT to save the planet. That’s what they like us to believe, but if you look under the rock, you will find that it is all about promoting the Crony Capitalists at the expense of their competitors, their consumers, and the Taxpayers.
      Progressive Leaders are simply feathering their own nests by parasitizing the citizens.

      • http://jheasler12175.wordpress.com jheasler12175

        I agree, but it is a dangerous mix of enviro-nazis and idealogically driven control freaks running the show. Its not boding well for average Americans.

      • DaveH

        Yep.
        “How fortunate for Leaders that people do not think” — Hitler

      • George E

        Isn’t it also about controlling everything and everybody?

    • eddie47d

      Then 12175 that should take you right back to the many Corporations and Speculators who have driven those prices higher and higher. They gamble on Wall Street and set the cost of your tomatoes and your gasoline. Those folks will have gasoline at $10 a gal. but not yet in your misprint.

      • http://jheasler12175.wordpress.com jheasler12175

        Please name two speculators that have distorted the market and what laws they may have broken in doing so. Futures buyers speculate and they run the risk of loss as well as gain. To my way of reasoning, the biggest factor in price at the pump is OPEC controlling the cost of crude on the world market. Exacerbating the problem, is obama’s policy of no new drilling permits and no new drilling on federal lands or waterways, killing the coal industry, and in gerneral removing any competition for OPEC. Competition and supply control cost, not the few futures speculators out there.

      • eddie47d

        Yes there are only a few of those Hedge Fund Managers (Speculators) out there but they do control a heck of a lot more than you give them “credit” for. Their temple of greed needs to be knocked down a few notches.

        • http://jheasler12175.wordpress.com jheasler12175

          Like whom for example? Many corporations and speculators ranks right up there with MSM’s lame segues “some say……that…..”. Non attributable quotes are nothing more than hot air.

      • eddie47d

        12175;How about Hedge Fund Manager Dan Gilligan who was quite bold in exposing those speculators and said “they are new breed of investors”. “60-70% of oil contracts are in the future markets and held by speculative entities” (use to be more in farm products or coal,etc). He said “even oil companies” get gouged by these speculators so go figure. I don’t look at oil companies as the enemy but I sure do those who “legally” shaft us by way of Wall Street. Dan also made the point that “speculators make money when the markets go up and even when they go down”. Very similar to the profits made by Hedge fund investors when the housing market crashed. They do the damage but don’t have to take any of the blame. How quaint!

  • mike

    If it weren’t for epa,fda and other regulators most of the simple minded morons that read and comment on this site would be gravely sick or dead which could be a good thing I vote to end all regulations

    • DaveH

      One might wonder how most of us got here, since the EPA didn’t exist until 1970.

      • eddie47d

        We had to swim through rivers of pollution and breath in cities of brown clouds. Yes how did we ever get this far in correcting that sickening problem.It certainly wasn’t from a conscionable awakening from Corporations at the time.

        • George E

          Eddie,

          Just because the EPA “might” have done some things right over the years shouldn’t give it license to run amuck over anything and everything it touches now. There should be a “reasonable” balance between protecting the natural environment and protecting the business environment as well as protecting individual rights with the rights of society. In my opinion, the EPA has gone too far in the direction of protecting the natural environment at the expense of the business environment and the rights of “society” over the individual.

      • Flashy

        DaveH…are you familiar with the Cuyahoga River fire of 1969?

      • TML

        Flashy,

        “The 1969 Cuyahoga River fire helped spur an avalanche of water pollution control activities resulting in the Clean Water Act, Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement, and the creation of the federal Environmental Protection Agency and the Ohio Environmental Protection Agency (OEPA).”

        Seems to me that the Clean Water Act, Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement, and the OHIO Environmental Protection Agency is all that was needed. This should further my point eariler, that a Federal Agency isn’t needed, and should be the sole responsibility of the State.The two Acts mentioned above cover federal issues (since the river (encompassed by Ohio) flows into Lake Erie, which is shared by other states, and Canada.

      • independant thinker

        I don’t see a problem with having an EPA if, and this is a big if, they ONLY had investagative powers with ABSOLUTELY no enforcement powers. There role should be to investigate situations then turn the evidence over to prosecutors for enforcement.

  • Howard Roark

    I recently saw a quote in which it was said that “Liberals love jobs but they hate employers.” That pretty much an accurate discription.

    • old hillbilly

      you fail to mention that which they hate most (next to free people) — PRODUCTIVE WORK!

    • DaveH

      They particularly Love other peoples’ money.

  • kategray

    All the czars the the PRETENDER has picked are ANTI-AMERICIAN. What can you expect from a group of UN-PATROTIC people. Go live in anther country where you can live the kind of life you want with DICTATORSHIP. Gee how about CHINA.

    • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

      China already has a dictator and these people want to rule so the only place with a dictator opening is the US

  • uvuvuv

    it’s not just the feds. here the dems voted down developing a new iron mine, because of the environment. i wrote a letter to the daily communist manifesto here saying that the mesabi range in northern minnesota was opened up long before any old epa was around, and even in the 50s when the mines were still producing good hematite the area was gorgeous, and continues to be. in the northern part of our state we have pristine wilderness covering an estimated 10,000 square miles, and lets say the proposed mine would lay waste to 2 square miles. which it would not, the company explained that the old rapine days of mining were over, but even if they let the bulldozers charge in, what’s 2 square miles? a pinprick on the map. but the local indian tribe on the nearby reservation of course went apoplectic at the chance that there would be actual bread winning jobs opening up, so tearfully they appealed to the legislature about their heritage lands, and the dems voted the mine down. plus there is all kinds of grief for any company that wants to mine that ecological horror story, sand. sand, yes what kids play in and that stuff on beaches where the same activists fighting these mines go for vacations. i mean come on, people don’t excitedly look at travel brochures for swimming pools, do they? of course, the fact that our sand is vital to the petroleum drilling industry is one reason they’re being such obstructionists. gee, we’re progressives and all that, but we mean social justice progress, not economic progress. and then they go anf recall the governor because he isn’t delivering on his promised jobs. but wait, they are moving to impeach obama because he didn’t deliver either.

  • old hillbilly

    One more cockroach forced back intro the woodwork to breed, multiply, and infect an otherwise good nation.

    RAID works! We need to elect some sane honest legislators who will literally purge corruption beginning especially with the regulatory agencies and the education systems that harbor and reproduce “progressives”.

    • kategray

      Term limits need to be set.

      • DaveH

        Term Limits would just be a placebo. There is no substitute for an educated electorate. That’s why Bob is here.

      • DaveH

        Sorry, Chip, I didn’t mean to leave you out.

    • DaveH

      As Government Grows, Corruption Flows.
      The only way to purge corruption is to dramatically shrink the Government. Get them out of the Marketplace where their interventions are usually designed to give an advantage to their Crony Capitalists. In this day and age of the Internet, there is absolutely no excuse for the Consumers Not to research before they buy a product. Government should be involved only to the extent that they protect us from the Force and Fraud of others.

      • George E

        Cut the money – tax revenue and credit, and their power – laws and regulations. We need to keep them on a tight leash. If the government didn’t have an “unlimited supply of our money” to hand-out, nor the power to control our businesses and lives, many lobbists wouldn’t bother going to Washington. Crony capitalism and other forms of government corruption could be kept in check if we did these things.

      • DaveH

        Speaking of the Internet, these guys are looking for any excuse to mess with our Internet. They can’t stand the fact that we’re bypassing their Propaganda Medias:
        http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/michael-chertoff-cyberattacks-biggest-risk-facing-america-165803529.html

        Oh, the fear.

  • Thinking About

    USA is not a goverment for the use of the KOCH industries. Let them fund their own greed but on the backs of citizens of the US. Why should there be a pipeline to transport crude oil to their refineries in Texas while refineries on the border of Canada can be used without building the pipeline to their industries and then shipping the refined products to the world. It will not help our fuel problem, it will be gas to other nations. We will never be independent of middle east oil in this method. Instead of being called Keystone XL pipe line, let the Koch brothers stand up and say it is for our greed.

    • DaveH

      TA,
      As usual, you have no idea what you’re talking about. If it was economical to build refineries near the border, and Government wasn’t actively interfering in the Marketplace, then Private Investors would do that. Free Markets (which we haven’t had for about 100 years) are the most efficient solvers of our economic problems.
      And please, TA, tell me anything the Koch brothers have done to us Forcefully or Fraudulently?
      For those who want to learn a little about the pipeline project from the people who are building it:
      http://www.transcanada.com/keystone.html

      • eddie47d

        Actually he does know what he is talking about since the Keystone oil will be going to foreign markets out of Port Arthur,Texas. The Price of gasoline will not be affected by the Keystone project either. Since the Koch Brothers and Anadarko Corp work together in getting this pipeline built there is a connection between them. They both also give generously to political campaigns to influence their businesses.

        • George E

          Eddie,

          So what? Are either of these companies doing anything illegal, or even unethical or immoral? No. Not so far as I can tell. And, what does it matter what these companies do with the oil or refined products? It’s their business. Let’s stay out of it.

      • Thinking About

        By your own admission of asking what has the Koch brothers done by fraud or force tells me I do understand what is going on. The “buy” decisions from congressional members, etc with big donations if they can get their agendas into action. They apparently have fooled you Daveh so how do you fall for their agenda?

      • DaveH

        By your refusal to answer my questions, TA, it is obvious that you are just another of the many Liberal Slanderers on this board, who when pressed can offer no evidence for their accusations.

      • eddie47d

        Well George if it doesn’t matter then why do those leaning on the right use it as an excuse that gas prices will go down if it is built?

      • George E

        Eddie,

        All I’m saying is we shouldn’t interfere in business deals like this one. They should make money or lose money on their own without our help. If they do this right, they’ll deliver better products to the market cheaper than competitors, so they’ll make money and consumers will be able to buy a product with a lower cost basis. That will help to lower prices if supply is adequate in relation to demand. In any case, can you make a case that building this pipeline will actually “raise” the price of fuel? I don’t think so. I think the best you can do is claim it won’t make any difference in the price to the consumer. Aside from supporting lower prices, this project also creates jobs and all the good things that go with that, including higher tax revenues. Face it. There are many more good reasons to approve this project than potentially bad ones when you really look at the facts.

    • George E

      Why can’t we just let private companies and their customers decide for themselves? Why does the federal government have to get involved in a decision like this? The market will work out the best, most efficient way of utilizing these natural resources.

      • http://jheasler12175.wordpress.com jheasler12175

        The pipeline is being financed with private money. You are talking as though you are being asked to pay for it. It never ceases to amaze me how people can’t stand it when others prosper. The pipeline will not be built on your dime.

        • George E

          jheasler,

          I think you mis-read my comments. I don’t want federal government interference in this project.

          • http://jheasler12175.wordpress.com jheasler12175

            Sorry, I was actually responding to the same comment you did.

          • George E

            No problem. Thanks.

      • Flashy

        JH..i tried to post and the power went out and cut my post off. (dang it…it’s a Republican conspiracy to thwart the Truth ! I know it !)

        Keystone is slated to travel over the Ogalalla Aquifer. nothing that important if you discount the aquifer covers eight states, is shallow (water tables avg 300 feet below surface) and supplies 30% of the nation’s irrigation waters.

        Yeas…keystone may not cost a dime to us to build…neither did the BP oil platform.

        So who will pay for the clean up of a major spill (if clean up can be performed?)? And if the loss of any water supply in an aquifer already strained from the demands doesn’t grab ya…how about loss of our breadbasket granary production from irrigation restrictions?

        If your answer if the standard pap given by industry that technology will prevent anything disastrous from occurring…that was what BP said. And i suppose a few well placed bombs by any terrorist action isn’t possible eh?

        There is the option for having a refinery close to the border, then shipped from there to all points US…not the Gulf Coast where it can be shipped out very easily and the risk born by us.

        Think about that …

        • George E

          Flashy,

          A pipeline is nothing like a deep water off shore drilling rig. Pipelines are laid very near the surface. In the unlikely event of a major break in the pipeline the oil would gravitate to the surface since it is lighter than water. You could spill millions of barrels of oil on the surface of the earth and it wouldn’t get mixed into the ground water supply which is hundreds of feet below ground. We have thousands of miles of pipelines crisscrossing over large aquifers in this country and have had for many, many years. There has never been anything like a BP oil spill into these aquifers that made the water from them unusable. It’s good to be cautious, but please be reasonable. The things you’re concerned about just aren’t going to happen. Let’s get on with building this pipeline and get the government out of the way.

      • Flashy

        George….having been involved in the past in a clean up of a brown field site, I’d say your premise oil and hydrocarbons will stay on the top ground layers to be ..well…misplaced. And yes, we have many aquifers that have been polluted, look under “Toxic Plumes”.

        Now…if you are stating there will be nothing but pure oil in the pipeline, we’ll stay with oil and hydrocarbon plumes into groundwaters. But of course, there will be additives to the product. it’s part and parcel of the process.

        • George E

          Flashy,

          I don’t deny that there’s never been ground water polluted by surface oil spills, but it will take some real convincing for me to believe this has been a major issue like the BP oil spill. I’ve lived in Texas and Louisiana most of my life around the oil and gas business, including pipelines, and I’ve never heard of such a situation. I’ve heard of the occasional pipeline blow-out once every few years, but that’s nothing like what you’ve described. I believe the left is over dramatizing this issue to try to keep this pipeline from being approved. Shame on them. This project could give our economy a boost which it really needs, but liberals are more concerned about possible situations that are remote to say the least. Please get real. The EPA and this administration are getting in the way of commerce. Maybe liberals are wealthy enough not to care, but most folks I know need an income to live, preferably an income from a real job not just an unemployment check.

      • DaveH

        Yeah Flashman, and if we let you out of the Institution you might get hit by a car. Your BP example is a weak one. If it wasn’t outright sabotage (false flag event), at the least it was an example of the futility of Government regulation. Seems like there just is never enough of that regulation, eh Sparky? And the fact that professionals from other countries were offering to help and were rebuffed by the Administration lends good credence to the former.
        One man’s opinion:
        http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/22727

      • Flashy

        DaveH…you supported my contention. If BP was indeed sabotage, or the gov’t regulators were in bed with BP (which would not be surprising given Bush II and the trashing of our safety systems) … then why would keystone be viewed in a light where neither would occur? Why would any reasonable sane person say ‘go ahead and place in danger this valuable aquifer which farms and cities in eight states depend upon”?

        There are alternatives available…are you that insane to say they should not be utilized and instead industry preference be given the overall green light despite the national security concerns?

        You paste the industry site on the page and say ‘there ya go, there’s the truth”…are you that naive to think they are going to do anything but place the most optimistic light and stretch the truth ?

        Criminey…do everyone a favor and for once…think.

      • DaveH

        No, Flashman, it is you who are insane. You won’t catch me using Hyperbole to make my point. You won’t catch me plagiarizing an ignorant Sniper article to make myself look smarter. You won’t catch me lying about the facts. That’s why I always have links to back up any facts that I state. And you won’t catch me, Flashman, assuming different personalities to mess with the readers.
        Now go take your meds.

      • DaveH

        Here is Cato’s take on the Aquifer Fear Mongering:
        http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/keystone-xl-liberal-histrionics-answered-conservative-histrionics

        The bottom line is that Progressives just want more Power and more of our Money, and they will use whatever Fear Factors they can dream up to scare the people into accepting their Road to Serfdom.

        • George E

          Yep. I believe it.

      • Opal the Gem

        Just one more lie from Flushy. While the original route for the pipeline took it close to/over a shallow part of the aquafier planning for a new route was started months ago and it has now been submitted for approval.

    • vietnamvet1971

      AH, we have an Occupy wanna be spewing the evil rich greedy people should pay for every thing. The problem is our Big Bloated Stupid Government running Amuck.

  • RichE

    He’ll do well at the IRS.

  • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS IN AUSTRALIA

    I’m all for getting rid of these Greenie EPA dictators however I suspect that your financial regulators will prefer unemployment to remain higher rather than lower as wages can remain lower, when many people do not have jobs otherwise it will create wages push and generally higher inflation.

    Also I’m not so convinced that the EPA is working alone as I suspect that it might be some of the larger oil corporations who would rather have less oil being extracted in the USA so as to keep their prices higher and are supporting the Democrats behind the scenes using the EPA as an anti competative tool. There is usually more going on in big business than sometimes would appear to be the case.

    • George E

      That might be the case, but in any case it’s all the more reason to cut the EPA’s power over our businesses and lives.

  • Chisna

    YOU ARE RIGHT Chip Wood….. What the EPA should do when we find a company violating environmental regulations is reward them with subsidies and throw them a parade. But seriously, what Al Armendariz said was wrong. And I agree that sometimes regulation are overly restrictive or uneccesary. But more often than not they are needed. Not only to protect the environment. But workers and consumers as well. Nobody with half a brain seemed to be opposed to removing lead from gasoline. But now for some reason we have people opposed to reducing the amount of mercury released by coal fired power plants ? Why ? Why would anyone be opposed to that…..

    And didn’t the president order a review of all regulations when he came into office ? And did not McClatchy do a poll of U.S. companies and find that regulations were not a major isssue for them when it came to hiring. http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/09/01/122865/regulations-taxes-arent-killing.html

    And are not many of the other job creators ( U.S. corporations ) posting historic after tax profits ? And have they not been posting these record profits every single quarter since Oct. 2009 ?

    Why YES it appears that is true….. http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/data/CP.txt

    • George E

      Chrisna,

      I’m in the camp that believes some regulations are helpful. Having said that, I don’t believe a lot more regulations are even more helpful just because a few are helpful. Like most things in life, I believe too much of a “good thing” is bad, and our federal government is demonstrating this principle every day. We have gone beyond the point of diminishing returns.

      • independent thinker

        “Like most things in life, I believe too much of a “good thing” is bad, and our federal government is demonstrating this principle every day.”

        Just like drinking red wine a couple of glasses a day is good for you a couple of bottles a day is bad.

  • Larry

    Tom W. you sure know how to brighten aday with your right on puns. Thanks for the laugh

  • Pete0097

    He is only the tip of the iceberg. i have been in meetings with these types from the EPA and they really don’t care about business. They also don’t care if the business is really polluting, only the possibility of them polluting puts them into a tailspin. I remember one meeting where the EPA guy was really worried about lead in the stormwater runoff of a parking lot. I argued that because the lead was being phased out of gas at the time, that lead would no longer be an issue. The board of commissioners agreed with me, but the EPA guy was furious that construction could commense.

    • Flashy

      Pete..if that was the basis for overriding the EPA concern, i’d be upset as well. Your argument was not valid. Last i heard, gas tanks and fuel lines don’t leak. Most stormwater pollutants from parking lots are asbestos (brakes), oil (leaks), and many of the “cols” found in brake fluids and antifreeze.

      Most opposition to having stormwater catch basins in parking lots are from the builder wanting to shave costs. Parking lots, along with fields, are one of the major non point sources for above ground water pollution.

      • Opal the Gem

        Flushy is showing just how young and nieve he actually is (or is flat out lieing again). A big part of the reason for elimination lead from gas was the buildup of lead on roadways and highway right-of-ways from the exaust of vehicles. As lead was eliminated from gas that would naturaly eliminate it as a cause of concern for lead polution.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      It is only about control! They don’t care about employment, the economy or the environment. It is only about exerting control over everyone and everything.

  • michaeljbeglinjr

    I took it for granted that everyone knew Obama and his regime was stifling job growth. Corporations started their layoffs as soon as Obama was sworn in. They are sitting on record amounts of cash, yet refuse to hire anyone. They foresaw the onerous burden of petty regulations that were coming.

    Obama’s regime has made it a point to stifle job growth while punishing successful businesses. Now businesses are punishing the people for electing a democrat. If we elect a republican this November, businesses will start hiring again. Business leaders are always happier under a republican ran country.

    The Keystone Pipeline and off-shore drilling are just two examples of Obama’s hatred of capitalism. He would rather see China get the oil than America. In what way does that make any sense? I am glad to see that he is openly using a socialist slogan for his re-election campaign. Obama was the biggest mistake the voters of America has ever made. He is helping America slide into third-world mediocrity, while he complains that we are too rich. He is a disgrace to the office he holds, and a disgrace to the country he is supposed to be serving.

    Some of Obama’s proudest supporters are the American Communist Party. That really should say all you need to know.

    • Flashy

      Some of Ron Paul’s most fervent supporters are white supremacists. Would you say Ron Paul is aligned and in belief with white supremacy? Of course not.

      Yet..one can make a stronger connection between Dr. Paul and white extremists than Pres. Obama and Communists.

      jeesh ….

      • George E

        Really? I’d be very surprised to see that case be made……..objectively. I haven’t done the research myself, but it’s been reported that Obama consorted with a number of self proclaimed communists over the years while I can’t recall ever hearing about any real white supremist that Ron Paul has consorted with. Can you make the case?

      • Flashy

        George..it would be about as “objective’ as the claims that Pres. Obama is a Communist or Socialist. Which is my point. The way those claims are based, the same or worse may be said about any candidate or political leader.

        • George E

          Flashy,

          It’s true that I can’t say with certainty that Obama is a communist, but I can say that he has consorted with known communists over many years. I can also say that he has shown an interest and leaning toward programs that exercise more rather than less government control over businesses and our lives. In other words, he seems to think government can do a better job of running our society than individuals can. That kind of “progressivism” isn’t necessarily communist, but communist do strongly lean that way as well. So to say the least, there are definite similarities between Obama’s political philosophies and communist philosophies.

      • Mike112769

        Take the time to look it up yourself. They do endorse Obama.

      • michaeljbeglinjr

        Take the time to research it before you dismiss it. I would not personally accept their support. Obama does. Dr. Paul would not accept any money from any hate groups. I strongly recommend you change your name to Troll.

      • DaveH

        Flashman as usual is spinning his web of deceit.
        Obama has shown in his actions and in his selection of czars and advisers that he leans Communist.
        His mother was a Communist. She “attended a radical, communist-leaning high school where she was taught the Communist Manifesto and which had a communist school board chairman and which had several communist teachers on staff”:
        http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/barack-obamas-mother-was-a-communist/

      • DaveH

        His childhood friend and adviser was a Communist:
        http://www.wnd.com/2008/02/56859/

      • DaveH

        Many of his political appointees have been Communist:
        http://www.commieblaster.com/socialist_czars/index.html

        Does anybody with any sense at all think Obama is going to come out and say “I’m a Communist, and I’m a Muslim”?

        When Politicians are Liars (most of them, Flashman included) you have to learn to read between the lines. Liars are called liars because They Don’t Tell the Truth.

      • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS IN AUSTRALIA

        YOU ALL GONE MAD worrying and using silly obsolete titles like Socialism, Communism, reds, etc and calling Obama all these titles…who really cares…the voters will get who they vote for and it aint all those silly words you keep using.

        • George E

          Gillys,

          What “silly” words would you use to describe a politician’s political philosophy? These “silly” words have meaning and help us understand which ideologies guide our politicians’ actions. We care about that a lot. Suggest some other adjectives if you think they are better. Although I’ve never heard or read anything that Obama has admitted to being a follower of some of these far-left political philosophies, I have heard that several of his advisors have proudly proclaimed to be communists. That makes me suspicious that Obama is, at a minimum, sympathetic to that cause, if not a true believer himself.

      • DaveH

        Why are you labeling us as being “Mad”, Gilly?

      • DaveH

        Socialism and Communism have been the downfall of many countries, Gilly. You don’t think people should learn from other countries’ mistakes?

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        Flashy you are a moron, there is much much more evidence of Odrama and communism over Ron Paul and Wanna be Nazis running around in the US.

    • vietnamvet1971

      @ michaeljbeglinjr very well articulated and tells the Truth, business want to profit and not give/tax their money to the Big Government Spenders in DC. Obama is the Worst president I have see in my lifetime. Most of the people that voted for him took the Hook,Line & Sinker and NOW how do they like that Change he Promised, He is a JOKE!

  • JeffH

    True Job Creators Need a Voice
    Bernie Marcus – Job Creators Alliance
    http://www.jobcreatorsalliance.org/Philanthropy/Arts/True_Job_Creators_Need_a_Voice.aspx

    Small and medium sized companies – high-tech and low, restaurants and retail stores, manufacturers and bakeries – are the businesses that drive job creation. Half of all American workers are employed at a small business and they have generated two out of three new jobs over the last 15 years. We can’t have a serious conversation about reducing unemployment without listening to the companies that aren’t on the Fortune 500 list.

    Overregulation, unfair taxes, and new mandates, like the controversial healthcare bill, are choking these job-creating businesses before they can get off the ground. The President’s State of the Union Address included calls to increase trade and cut corporate taxes, all things that help big businesses alright, but do little to help the small enterprises and start-ups that are the engines of economic growth. They need relief from the alphabet soup of regulations that stifles them and therefore chokes hiring.

    From the EPA to the FDA, from the IRS to Sarbanes Oxley, regulations disproportionally affect the smallest firms, drowning America’s entrepreneurs in red tape. According to a study published last year by the Small Business Administration, firms with fewer than 20 employees spend 36 percent more per employee than large firms. Regulations, on average, cost small firms $10,585 per employee each year: $4,120 to comply with economic regulations, $4,101 to comply with environmental regulations, $1,585 to comply with complex tax rules, and $781 to comply with OSHA and homeland security regulations. In fact, more than 144,000 pages of regulations strangle small and large businesses alike. Congress must provide these innovators a break.

  • FreedomFighter

    Special Warning:
    DHS Knows an Economic Collapse Is Coming
    and That People Are Not Prepared

    related:“We are Preparing for Massive Civil War,” Says DHS Informant

    May 4, 2012
    Douglas J. Hagmann
    Hagmann Investigative Services, Inc. and Northeast Intelligence Network

    The following notes are from from Private Investigator, Douglas Hagmann, who has a confidential contact within Department of Homeland Security. Doug writes, “Here are the notes I took during the early morning conversation I had with my DHS source ‘Rosebud.’ People need to understand that our own government KNOWS what is coming and is not only NOT telling the American people, but (they are) preparing for the worst.”

    1ST PAGE

    Civil war is coming to the US, and there’s no stopping it
    DHS prepping for economic collapse and money will be worthless.
    Never seen it this bad; everyone is talking about what they personally will do.
    DHS brass don’t care and are conducting overt actions in plain sight. Most incoming troops are not for training (some are) but as part of a larger force.
    All know BHO (Barack Hussein Obama) is constitutionally illegitimate.
    All in Congress know this, and their families are being threatened to keep them quiet.
    High level News Corp. people talked to the highest at DHS and TSA. The plan is to get people conditioned to seeing troops, paramilitary – get them conditioned to being searched.
    Dollar will collapse – that will be the bigger event. The trigger event starts in Europe and then heads here. When we see that – start counting because we have only days left.
    Bernanke / Geitner / top level bankers will be in hiding.
    Election year – watch BHO’s body language. Does he look afraid of not getting elected? “WTF wake up.”

    2ND PAGE

    Then race riots, class riots.
    Farrakhan is on DIA payroll and he will help start these riots.
    Then Civil War, not sporadic riots and uprisings here and there.
    There will be no food – no ETMs – no gas.
    People will RUN to camps for assistance.
    Guns must be abandoned and left with police in order to get food.
    BHO & Bernanke are behind every stupid economic move.
    Something with China troops here, but China debt to be called in – 5.5 trillion total.
    Rosebud: How easy will will it be to quell 300+ million people?
    No, the question is: How easy will it be to quell 300+ STARVING people who are unprepared?
    Shoot to kill orders during collapse will be given to the police.
    End of meeting
    More later. Said next meeting 5 May (Sat.) outside of DC. Call Sunday.

    http://standeyo.com/NEWS/12_USA/120504.Hagmann.warning.html

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • http://jheasler12175.wordpress.com jheasler12175

      Unfortunately, this is too close to the truth.

  • pebbles

    I’M A FORMER RESIDENT OF NEW ORLEANS, LOUISIANA, AND LIVED THERE DURING THE BP OIL SPILL. THIS ARTICLE MAKES ME WONDER IF THE OIL SPILL WAS PLANNED.

  • Neil Swan

    Conservatives don’t want to go forward, they want to go backward like the religious right in Isreal. The ultra orthadox who throw rocks at people driving on the sabath,

    Neil

    • JeffH

      WOW Comrade Neil, you really got it all figured out.

      Hmm, two questions for ya…
      1 – Who exactly is this religious right in Israel?
      2 – If you believed in “Hope and Change”, does that mean you’re really taken a hold on the newest Obama slogan…”Forward”?
      _________________________________

      The Obama campaign apparently didn’t look backwards into history when selecting its new campaign slogan, “Forward” — a word with a long and rich association with European Marxism.

      Many Communist and radical publications and entities throughout the 19th and 20th centuries had the name “Forward!” or its foreign cognates. Wikipedia has an entire section called “Forward (generic name of socialist publications).”

      “The name Forward carries a special meaning in socialist political terminology. It has been frequently used as a name for socialist, communist and other left-wing newspapers and publications,” the online encyclopedia explains.

      • Neil Swan

        Forward means trying to improve things. It doesn’t mean your a comunist. Inteligent people are always trying to move forward. Concervatives want to go backward, some a couple thousand years, others just back to the gunfight at the OK caral.

        Neil

        • vietnamvet1971

          Forward means= Please Big Government Sugar Daddy take care of me and give me my Share or at least pretend you care about ME. No More Oblammer/Ovomit/Obozo in 2012!

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      Everyone wants clean air, fresh water, clean soils, and thriving wildlife. So, everyone would agree that protecting them is a good idea.

      So, in 1970, President Nixon proposed and established the Environmental Protection Agency, known better as the EPA (of course, this earned Nixon zero credit from the environmentalists, who couldn’t abide the ‘R’ after his name, or the fact that he once went after Soviet agents working within the US government).

      In 1990, the EPA mandated that certain regions must add oxygenates to gasoline, supposedly to make it burn cleaner, despite research that showed there was no significant benefit to doing so.

      The oxygenate of choice was methyl tertiary-butyl ether, or MTBE, heretofore a waste product of petroleum refining. The EPA also ignored information showing that MTBE makes motors run less efficiently, thus negating any slight benefit; causes motors to wear out faster; that it is toxic to people; that it permeates conventional gas station storage tanks; and that it’s water-soluble, that is, impossible to feasibly clean out of water sources.

      Every single one of these predicted faults of MTBE bore out. There was no improvement in air quality. Worse, MTBE caused an environmental disaster all its own and resulted in obliterating most independent gas stations.

      MTBE went right through the existing storage tanks and leeched right into drinking water sources. Many of these sources had to be abandoned because the MTBE had rendered the water undrinkable. So, the EPA, instead of admitting MTBE was a big mistake, doubled down and ordered that gas stations must install new MTBE-proof tanks.

      This cost each station several hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars to do. Only oil company-owned stations and the very wealthiest independents could afford to do this. Thousands of smaller independent stations were unable to do this and went out of business – of course, then the EPA came in and forced them to spend any remaining money on “toxic waste disposal” before they could sell their property, usually at a loss after cleanup costs. The smaller number of competing inexpensive independent gas stations, of course, meant that pump prices went up.

      The EPA mandated that oil companies blend into their gasoline “cellulosic biofuel.” The goal set by the law for vehicle fuel from cellulose was 250 million gallons for 2011 and 500 million gallons for 2012. Just on this rule, and just in 2011, oil companies owe $6.3 million in fines for not doing so. The problem with this rule is that cellulosic biofuels do NOT exist! There is no manufacturer of this stuff and no industry that can make it! Of course, reality is of little concern to these unaccountable bureaucrat tyrants.

      Recently, Senator Inhofe discovered and made public an egregious example of EPA tyranny and arrogance. An EPA official, Al Armendariz, was caught on video freely justifying and comparing their tactics to the ancient Romans going into a conquered town and arbitrarily crucifying the first five people they encountered in order to intimidate the population into submission. Armendariz later apologized “for his poor choice if words,” but neglected to apologize for the goon tactics they routinely practice against legitimate businesses and individuals who try to contest their arbitrary and destructive rules.

      Some might ask, what’s wrong with enforcing the law? Provided the law is constitutional and just, and has actually been broken, nothing. And that’s the problem: Just like those Roman tyrants who crucified innocent people to keep the rest intimidated, Armendariz and the rest of the EPA don’t really care whether or not there’s an actual violation.

      They will invent violations and go after both individuals and businesses just to set an example. For example: In 2010 Armendariz went after and fined Range Resources, a Fort Worth-based driller, for polluting ground water in Parker County, Texas. Range protested, saying there was no pollution. The Texas Railroad Commission, which regulates drilling in Texas, did tests and found that there was no pollution. This didn’t matter to Armendariz and his EPA thugs.

      Range took the EPA to court, and after a year and a half of expensive litigation against the EPA’s unlimited resources, the court found in favor of Range: There was indeed NO pollution. Finally, the EPA grudgingly withdrew its actions against Range.

      Did the EPA pay Range for its massive loss of time and money due to their tyranny? Of course not!

      David Porter, a commissioner on the Texas Railroad Commission, said, “Today the EPA finally made a decision based on science and fact versus playing politics with the Texas economy. The EPA’s withdrawal of the emergency order against Range Resources upholds the Railroad Commission Final Order that…Range is not responsible for any water contamination in Parker County. Al Armendariz and the EPA…are guilty of fear mongering, gross negligence, and severe mishandling of this case.

      Well, it seems that justice has finally caught-up with Armendariz!

      http://federalistpages.com/epa-tyranny-absurdity-destruction-and-death-how-the-epa-is-the-most-evil-entity-in-the-government-of-the-usa/

      • George E

        Jay,

        Great post. Thanks for taking the time to lay out the facts.

    • JeffH

      That pre-programmed robotic response deserves a double WOW WOW Comrade Neil.

      Again, two questions for ya…
      1 – Who exactly is this religious right in Israel?

      2 – If you believed in “Hope and Change”, does that mean you’re really taken a hold on the newest Obama slogan…”Forward”?

      • Neil Swan

        Yes, it’s the republicans keeping us from moving forward. They don’t want to tax the rich and oil companies. They want to cut social security and medicare. The owner of the LA Dodgers made 20 million dollars a year for five years and didn’t pay a dime in income tax.
        That means there are tax loopholes for the rich.

        Neil

        • George E

          Neil,

          Undoubtedly that’s true. The wealthy do get tax breaks. That might be because 1) they generally pay a lot of income tax, and 2) politicians use these breaks to leverage control over these folks. By the way, about 50% of the folks in this country don’t pay any income tax but do get a check back anyway (income tax credit, I believe). What’s fair about that? Why don’t we agree that in order to make the tax code fairer, it should be simplified by getting rid of all tax subsidies and breaks, and then making sure that everyone pays something in relation to their ability? That means giving up all the tax subsidies that “green” industries get, and no tax rebates to people who pay no income taxes, as well. What do you think? Wouldn’t this be a fairer system? If “fair” is defined as getting everything we want, but you getting nothing of what you want, we’ll be fighting this battle until the end of time.

      • JeffH

        Neil, why the incoherent babble? Are you dense? You couldn’t answer the two questions that were posed to you so it’s fruitless to ask you to answer them a 3rd time. Jeesh!

        Ron White had it right…you can’t be fixed because your’s is forever!

        Stupid is as stupid does!
        Forrest Gump

      • Neil Swan

        Yes Jeff I answered the second question but not the first.
        The ultra orthadox jews are the religious right because they want to make religious law.
        I had a friend who was jewish and his daughter became ultra orthadox or born again and he was unhappy about it.

        Neil

      • JeffH

        OK Neil, whatever you think you said on #2 was exactly what I thought. Does the bell on your collar have a special tone to it so you can be easily identified from the rest of the flock, or do all of you wear the same collars and bells?

  • Thinking About

    I wonder how long the Paul camp has been in the neo nazi group. Instead of many calling Obama a Nazi and commie we should add Ron Paul’s name to that list for sure.

    • michaeljbeglinjr

      So the Congressman that has never voted for anything unConstitutional, has been dead on when it comes to our wars, has foretold the collapse of the American dollar because of the private Federal Reserve, and wants to cut massive government waste, while bringing our troops home; he is a nazi communist? That is the most ridiculous post I’ve read today, and I’ve been arguing with some muslims on YouTube.

      • Thinking About

        Check it out for yourself, I would not want you not to be informed properly. Since he votes most of the time no even when he adds earmarks to a bill he knows is going to pass and he is glad to take the bacon home with him you be the judge. Sometimes you are what you associate with.

    • DaveH

      Your comment is beyond ignorant, TA. It’s what I’ve come to expect from you. Ron Paul votes NO so much because most of the Bills Congress passes are Unconstitutional and he’s one of the few who still obey the Law. I realize that you immoral and unlawful Liberals just like to ignore all rules which apply to you, and enforce them only on other people. But many of us know the chaos that comes with too many laws, their selective obeyance, and their selective enforcement.
      As far as the earmarks go, when somebody is spending other peoples’ money, why shouldn’t those “other people” seek to get some of their own money back?
      I know that you Ignorant Liberals expect us just to be willing victims of your theft, but you’re just going to have to live with the fact that we won’t be.
      http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/phillips5.html

      • Thinking About

        Call me whatever name you can ever think of and then go and lick your wounds. It will not change Paul’s record, he lives to take home bacon just as he gouges on his travel expenses. He is a proven dead head with only 1 bill he introduced out of over four hundred. You claim to be educated in math now you can use your education to figure out his percentage and then find who is ignorant.

      • DaveH

        The problem, TA, is that you’re too ignorant to know when you’ve been proven wrong.
        But that’s your problem. I know you are uneducable, but I am hoping to teach those whose minds aren’t closed like steel traps.

      • DaveH

        You didn’t even read the article did you, Ignoramus? You should change your ID because Thinking is not something you do.

      • DaveH

        And TA,
        How does Ron Paul adding earmarks to the Bills, even though he votes against the Bills (so that his district can get some of their money back if the Bills pass), make him like Hitler? If that makes Ron Paul like Hitler, what do you suppose that makes the rest of you Thieving Liberals who vote every chance they get to take other peoples’ money?
        As I’ve said many times, I’m glad you ignorant Liberals post here so that the average reader who might previously have bought into the “intelligence” of Liberals can see for themselves that you guys are far from intelligent.

      • DaveH

        Ron Paul’s own defense of his earmarks (as usual, Ron Paul is being more responsible than most of the other Congressmen):
        http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/your-world-cavuto/2009/03/11/rep-ron-paul-defends-his-earmarks-spending-bill#

      • DaveH

        Ron Paul defends his Earmarks to Neil Cavuto at Republican Debates:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l-NuNGTcoA

    • DaveH
      • Thinking About

        Dave the führer wannabe Paul talks about the spending then adds earmarks to bills he knows is going to pass and knowing he is voting against the bill. He might have many fooled by his tactics but don’t count everyone in believing in the führer.

        • George E

          TA,

          I believe your use of the term “Fuehrer” in your description of Ron Paul is inappropriate. He may be a lot of things, but Fuehrer he is not.

  • http://walch carl

    Our representatives are the people who are to blame. Regulatory agencies should be cooperative, not cops. They need to advise on reg issues, not try to put people our of business, for fine them out of existence. We need new representative who will protect all of us from these jerks who have no better things to do other than kill jobs.

    • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS IN AUSTRALIA

      I agree with you there.

  • old hillbilly

    Remember Christmasw eve – the rhinos stayed up late… dropped down obummer chimney & left a trillion++ dollar blank check in his mantle, and scurried to their little nests here there and everywhere, like good little rats to eat, make merry, pretend to be good humans ove the “H-oily”— giving and receiving (your money and freedom)

    Now OBummer shovels $1.5 billion to his “brethernhood” & $165? million up the good old Hamas hole… homage on the range wherein infidel Christians get to repent for thinking bad things about terrorists.

    Unfortunately, between green energy and brown wastelands where factories once flourished, the boogie man snitched the check & there won’t be jobs or money for the vets who have been over in muslim land teaching muslims how to shoot their enemies.

    We must return the favor to rhinos & demon-rats who made all of this possible… a ticket home for thanksgiving… and forever thereafter… that is, anyone, any position who voted to increase the debt ceiling without finite detail spending limitations to the penny, pencil, and last sheet of toilet paper! GET SOME SANE PEOPLE ORGANIZED – RESURRECT THE TEA PARTY

  • Ron

    You guys don’t understand that you are the RINO’s, do you?

    The Party of Lincoln was founded on the greatest re-distribution of wealth in American history. In 1860, the single largest part of America’s GDP was concentrated by RealAmerican SuperPatriot “Job Creators” (smirk) in one area of the economy: A small, white, wealthy land-owning minority trafficking in human beings. (Libtards like Lincoln called it “slavery”)

    When this compromising, pragmatic, non-demagogue was elected, the South walked out of the Union (“These colors don’t run!”), called themselves the Confederate States of America, big on state’s rights and small government (as in feudal government) and declared war on Abraham Lincoln and the country he rode in on–The United States of America.

    The Republican Party continued over the years to promote enlightenment and education and conservative values and corporate responsibility through thoughtful regulation, and utilized taxpayer dollars to promote some of the great infrastructure developments that we take for granted–and often in cooperation and compromise with Democrats–in the old “America-hating” days of traitors like:

    Abraham Lincoln (we’ve already listed his major sin–using the Army of the Potomac to “crucify job creators”

    Theodore Roosevelt (declared war on corporate greed and broke up the monopolies and trusts that had a corporate stranglehold on the middle class. He was the ultimate Class Warfare guy.)

    Dwight Eisenhower ( Used taxpayer funds to betray America by building the Interstate Highway System. If it wasn’t for him, you’re little FreedomWorks buses full of gun-toting, ObamaHitler poster waving, Glenn Beck worshipping SuperPatriots might’ve taken WEEKS to get back and forth across the country shouting down and thugging up town hall meetings)

    Richard Nixon (Signed the Environmental Protection Agency into law. He should’ve let the Cuyahoga River BURN. It was good for business, the lousy traitor.)

    And finally, even Barry Goldwater, no shrinking violet of liberalism, but also a real conservative–not a radical Corporate shill like the Glennbeckian, Karlrovian monstrosity that palms itself off as the Party of Lincoln–who watched with fear as you turned his party into something unrecognizable to the people who created the Republican Party.

    Today? NONE of those guys could be Republicans in the thing you’ve jammed to the right. Karl Rove would’ve swiftboated every one of them for negritude and mental illness from being a captive in North Vietnam–waaay before the South Carolina primary.

    And NONE of these guys would’ve been so stupid as to suggest that for young Americans to get an education is a bad idea and might make them “snobby”.

    That’s perhaps the most morbidly fascinating part about watching the modern Confederacy overthrow America–you guys have to $h*t on your own ideas as fast as Obama can try to compromise with you and adopt them. It’s like your modern Nazi/Confederacy self has to lynch your former Republican, not-insane self for treason–because the Republican Party used to be conservative–and conservative is good–but it wasn’t NUTS.

    In the ultimate irony, you even managed to raise up the spectre that a RealAmerican SuperPatriot might have to resort to “Second Amendment Remedies” and your draft-dodging, chickenhawk poster boy Ted Nugent C-R-O-W-S about taking with the bullet what you lose with the ballot.

    You have managed to turn the Party of Lincoln into the Party of John Wilkes Booth.

    You are the RINO’s.

    You couldn’t more precisely and insultingly urinate on Lincoln’s grave if you tried.

    • http://jheasler12175.wordpress.com jheasler12175

      A really nice incoherent rant! Debbie Wassermann Shultz couldn’t have done a better job herself.

      • Ron

        Thanks!

        I broke it up in small paragraphs because people on here don’t seem to like anything involving a lot of reading–unless it’s stringing together a bunch of words like “Kenyan”, “Obummer”, “Obumba”, “Obmumbo”, “Odumbo”, “Ape”, “Mau-land”, “Traitor”, “Destroy”, “Terrorist” (or “Terrist” as it’s sometimes spelled, “Marxist”, “Communist”, “Socialist”, “Muslim”, “Mooslim”, “Moosleem”, “Homo”, occasionally–and of course, the “N” word: Nazi.

        I didn’t even realize the dark evil potential of this America-hating animal (and his ugly ape wife!) until it was explained to me by that great Christian-American Lord Limbaugh,of the Nobility and other Patriotic RealAmericans on this site—through recently-found, actual photoshopped photos, that the most xenophobic, totalitarian, brutal, thuggish, white-supremacist nation on earth was actually lorded over by a black guy!

        Those poor people! Is there no end to the wickedness of CommuNaziNig-aKenyanist Voodoo?

        He was busy destroying the world EVEN BEFORE HE WAS BORN and misled an entire nation of hard-working, jack-booted white people to their doom, no doubt using snobbish education in a plot with the world Jewish liberal intellectual conspiracy. (That’s why the Nazis loved book-burnin’, after all).

        He probably used mandingo mind voodoo to get President Cheney to invade Iraq against his will, I’m guessing–Thank God Halliburton and Blackwater, etc. were at least able to step in and make a little money off of the deal, so I guess it wasn’t a $4 trillion waste for everybody.

        • http://jheasler12175.wordpress.com jheasler12175

          I’m laughing.

        • George E

          Ron,

          Maybe you are missing your calling. Try being a late, late, late night comedian. You should do very well with that lib audience. Then you can launch insults at right-wing political thinking folks as much as you want without offending anyone. On here however, I find your comments disgusting. Thanks for dropping in long enough to lob a few political insults. Gets my day off to a “good” start.

        • vietnamvet1971

          sounds to me just more Incoherent rant to me, just in more simple words for us uneducated know nothing Americans. Sure wished I has one of those Big Fancy degrees from Harvard.

      • Ron

        Aw, guys. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings. And I’m not sure why–I just echoed, as a RealAmerican SuperPatriot, the stuff I read on here everyday. I didn’t insult you guys at all.

        In fact, I was really working hard to insult the rotten piece-of-filth President of the United States and the First Lady with all the terms I hear on here just to be part o’ the team!

        Kenyan. Ape. Ugly-a$$ Gorilla. Traitor. Mooosleem. Y’know, ‘same stuff people say about white people all the time.

        —Y’know, Christian, Patriotic Stuff? (I know what: If you don’t believe me, I know a simple way to prove it–ask your black friends over for dinner and have them come and read on this site for a time or two. I’m sure they’ll agree you’re all open-minded, freedom-loving Patriots!)

        We’re not being Hateful of America and Committing Treason, like Dixie Chicks said about Cheney back when he was unelected president, right? Well, okay, technically they just said they were ‘ashamed of George Bush’ after Abu Ghraib, waterboarding, sending troops into combat ill-equipped and under-armored to get killed, ‘stuff like that.

        And we tried and convicted ‘em for TREASON!! Woo-hoo! U-S-A! U-S-A! ‘Said if they hated America so much they should LEAVE! RealAmerican SuperPatriots don’t buy filthy traitors’ records, so they should just shut up and sing! Right? Get in, sit down, hang on and shut up!!!

        But this regularly referring to the elected President as a “P.O.S. who can suck on my machine gun” or calling for someone to rise up and exercise their “Second Amendment Remedies” with guns or stockpiling arms to get ready for the revolution? Well, that’s just fun-lovin’ RealAmericans having a little fun on a Saturday night. We wasn’t REALLY gonna lynch him–especially since we got caught!

        One other thing: Please, don’t let Rick Santorum bully you into becoming “uneducated know nothing Americans”–that’s just him trying to hoodwink ya into not reading books and knowing stuff and challenging the yellow tinkle-down lemonade of goose-steppy simplistic barking points that Lord Limbaugh and Lady Ann are rainin’ down on ya (that ain’t lemonade.).

        As an American, you have a right and a maybe even a patriotic duty to get an education (well, okay, not according to the Republican Education Plan, but anyway)!

        Or at least, America-hating traitor Republicans like Eisenhower, Reagan, and Goldwater would’ve thought so. Karl Rove, not so much.

        And I didn’t even MENTION that you are resurrecting, plank by plank, the entire platform of the Confederate States of America–I just didn’t see any reason to state the obvious to true believers.

        You might want to be careful though. President Cheney this wrong back in the “War President’s War”–or I call it the “War to Get W’s Picture Taken On An Aircraft Carrier” War..

        Even though you may overthrow America and start us down the road to Confederacy at the point of a gun, the American people Will Not Welcome You As Liberators.

    • DaveH

      Actually, Ron, if you read this book, you might awaken to the fact that Honest Abe wasn’t Honest. In fact, his dictatorship makes Obama’s pale in comparison. But then who but blindered zealots could expect a railroad lawyer to be Honest?
      https://mises.org/store/Product2.aspx?ProductId=172

  • American Consumer

    Chip Wood would have us open the Keystone XL pipeline, but what he fails to tell you is that the oil from that pipeline will be sold to other interests. The oil will not stay in the United States. So Big Oil gets it’s way and the profits flow to them, and the oil goes to other interests. So why the heck are we building this pipeline? Chip Wood, do you have bookoo oil stocks? Are you getting kickbacks for lying to the American public?

    • George E

      AC,

      I can’t figure out why the Canadians would want to pipe their oil to Texas before selling it to the Chinese, if that’s what they plan to do, when they could simply pipe it to Vancouver instead. Let’s face it. Sending it to Vancouver should cost less and be a whole lot less trouble for them. Heck, they could already have that pipeline well underway. Instead, they’re fussing with the US government. It just doesn’t make sense to me that their ultimate goal is to sell this product to the Chinese. On the other hand, even if they did sell it to the Chinese, or whoever else they want to, why should that stop the project? It would still provide thousands of jobs for Americans which would give a needed boost to our economy, and do so without any taxpayer money. Isn’t that a good thing? Seems to me that we ought to be encouraging as many of this type project that we can.

      • http://jheasler12175.wordpress.com jheasler12175

        Their is a vast difference in expense between a pipeline from N – S through the relatively flat U.S. midwest and one from E – W across two mountain ranges, Rockies and Cascades, to reach the Canadian west coast. As far as the U.S. is concerned, the addition of refinery jobs and refinery revenues is a plus. Additionally, petroleum products shipped from our ports do not all go to foreign entities as much of it is shipped from one U.S. port to another as an efficient means of moving bulk product. Increasing the amount of crude available on the world market as well as adding to U.S. refining capacity should help put some downward pressure on crude prices being set by OPEC. The U.S.’s not having to depend on OPEC like we do now could totally unscrew their financial domination of us with respect to crude oil and reduce the flow of dollars to the Saudis that they turn around as financial aid to madrassas and Islamic outreach programs designed to subvert our religious freedoms here in the U.S. OPEC and the Saudis are not our friends and the sooner we can not have to depend on them for anything, the better.

      • Thinking About

        The pipeline should be named Koch pipeline. This would ship the crude to
        Koch refineries in Texas and since it on the gulf coast right into the international market. It will not relieve the gas prices in the USA but the backers hides behind their same old lies. Check and see how many of your congress members stands to profit from this. Gutless crooks. Why not use the refineries on the Canadian border, why they don’t belong to Koch and it would be more difficult to ship internationally.

        • George E

          TA,

          You’ve really got a real problem with Koch, don’t you? You’ve brought them up in nearly all of your responses. I suggest if you’ve got any evidence that Koch or anyone in Congress is doing anything illegal, put it out for everyone to see so we can examine it. My guess is you don’t like Koch because they contribute large sums to Republican candidates. I’ve got a problem with George Soros for similar reasons. But that has nothing to do with this pipeline. Why can’t we discuss the merits of this project rather than theories that support political ideologies? This pipeline is good for America, regardless which particular individuals or companies might also benefit.

    • DaveH

      I sure do tire of Liberals spreading unsubstantiated rumors. But so what if the oil was sold to the Chinese? Are you so xenophobic that you think only Americans should be able to trade freely? If willing participants are voluntarily selling land and services to have the pipeline cross the United States, what business is it to you Liberals?
      Being an American Consumer, you should know that every bit of productive activity you thwart means we all have less in the long run, and we all pay more for our products and services. That’s an immutable fact of human labor. When we stifle production, we all pay the price eventually.
      Here is TransCanada’s side of the story:
      http://www.transcanada.com/keystone.html

      • Ron

        We should hand over every last piece of America to the highest bidder, leaving nothing for the future, scorched earth.

        No reserves.
        No conservation.
        No conservativism.
        No regulation.
        No resistance to our Big Corporate owners.

        That way, the wealthy can always offshore themselves and leave the “dead-ender-welfare-queens” (non-wealthy) once the place is trashed, polluted, robbed and broke.

        It’s as American as apple-pie and Waterboarding.

      • DaveH

        Actually Ron, the waterboarders have more in common with Liberals than they do with True Conservatives. Bush is a Progressive (I call them Liberals). It doesn’t matter if they ignore the Constitution and call themselves Republicans, or if they ignore the Constitution and call themselves Democrats — They are still Progressives.
        Ron says — “We should hand over every last piece of America to the highest bidder, leaving nothing for the future, scorched earth”.
        No, Ron, we should respect peoples’ ownership and Not tell them what to do with their own money and property. If you want reserves and conservation, then buy stocks in an oil company or a game preserve, or put together a co-op and store up your own reserves with your own money, or create your own conserved lands purchased with yours and like-minded peoples’ money.
        You have no idea what regulation is all about, Ron. It is just political tampering with the Marketplace by un-elected officials who generally are favoring their Crony Capitalists at the rest of our expense. If the people believe certain actions are wrong (should be a super-majority), then Congress could create laws to stop those actions.
        If you don’t like what the Corporations are doing — Don’t buy their products, or Start your own competing Corporation. Show us how it’s done.
        The problem is, Ron, is that, like the typical Liberal, you are driven by Jealousy and Greed for other peoples’ money. The solutions your kind advocate don’t work in the real world and have driven many countries to the brink of abject poverty.
        Be the first Liberal on your block to have a brain, Ron. Read this study on Regulation:
        http://www.scribd.com/doc/53100815/Wayne-Crews-10-000-Commandments-2011

  • old hillbilly

    Ron – Pitiful place isn’t it! I’ll bet you & two or three of your buddies just left the workforce @last day of month so obomouse could simultaneously create another government job and reduce the unemployment rate by reducing the number of total workers.

    You accurately describe some good deeds by past people, as if the obomination is following their tradition. The obomanation is the exact opposite. Nowhere in history have so many banks bankrupted, lost everything their shareholders had, and walllala resurrected with a new name… same name as the too big to fail bank that put them under… a good old American name that morphed into a global monopoly more evil than satan himself… and you didn’t even see it comming or our jobs and wealth going. Teddy would be on his horse with elephant gun in hand, running down a commie elephant with a bunch of jackasses on it’s back. Think of Ob and his comrats atop the GE elephant riding back and forth to Mau-land bringing your tennis shoes to you & hauling what little money you had back to Mau. It’s called looting… treason if you can find that word a real dictionary.

  • albert p. johnson

    we have to get satan in the flesh out of the white house in november. this man is just a tool of the devil and is hell bound on destroying all of us and our beloved country. he is nothing but evil and between him and george soros we will not have a country after another four years

  • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

    5/5/12, We may eventually get our KXL. What will happen is under massive pressure to satisfy both sides, BO will cave on the pipeline to appear accessible to both sides of the issue. My assessment is he will lose anyhow.

  • emsaravia

    One down thousands to go, for the first time in my life I feel ashamed of my goverment and the shameless thivery the chicago gang’s sticking on us, Rommey is a trillion times better than fraudbama, in busines, decency, respect for America, Americans and American values.

    • DaveH

      He may be better than Obama. But, even though cutting off a finger is better than cutting off a hand, I’d rather have neither.
      http://www.ronpaul2012.com/

  • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS IN AUSTRALIA

    Mitt Romney says your country should be creating 500,000 jobs per month but I warn you that your country could not afford that rate of employment growth and certainly not full employment.

    If your unemployed suddenly got jobs tomorrow they would want a new car,,,IMPORTED, more fuel IMPORTED, new washing machine IMPORTED, new TV IMPORTED..new mobile hone IMPORTED…better new apartments RENT INCREASES OF ENORMOUS PERCENTAGES, new houses..IMPORTED FROM CHINA, digital camera..IMPORTED, more food…IMPORTED FROM ASIA. How many unemployed do you have now, plus how many homeless multiply that by total expected imports + MULTI TRILLION DOLLAR BALANCE OF PAYMENTS DEFICITS, EXCALLATING WAGE DEMANDS= HYPER INFLATION FOR THE REST OF THE CURRENTLY EMPLOYED PEOPLE, HIGHER INTEREST RATES TO 15% my guestimate.

    So may I suggest you need just a few more in jobs but not everyone in jobs to disrupt your current cozy lifestyle?

    • DaveH

      Pass that doobie this way, Gilly.

    • DaveH

      That may very well be the nuttiest argument that I’ve ever seen on this board.

    • DaveH

      If you’re going to meddle in our politics, Gilly, the least you could do is to read this book and get some education about economics:
      http://mises.org/books/capitalism_kelly.pdf

    • George E

      Gilly,

      Either you jest, or you are a believer in the Phillips Curve. Increased employment doesn’t have to increase inflation. Devaluing the currency causes inflation.

    • Jibbs

      GILLYSROOMS IN AUSTRALIA, wow!! that bong you have sure works wonders.

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