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Walking While White: Elderly Man Beaten After Saying ‘Remember Trayvon’

April 6, 2012 by  

Walking While White: Elderly Man Beaten After Saying ‘Remember Trayvon’
FOX TOLEDO

Dallas Watts, a 78-year-old veteran from Toledo, Ohio, did not allow weapons in his house while his children were growing up, so he doesn’t own a firearm . But, after being beaten by six juveniles aged 11 to 17 last Saturday in the name of Trayvon Martin, he says he will buy a gun and obtain a permit.

Watts’ story is a bit ironic.

According to the Toledo Blade, the elderly man was on his way home from a convenience store at about 4:45 p.m. on Saturday with not skittles and iced tea, but two bags of pork rinds that he planned to feed his dogs for treats. It was then that he was approached by a group of  six boys, some of whom were white and some black.

Watts recounted that one of the youths pointed at him and ordered the others to “take him down,” to which Watts said he replied, “Why me? Remember Trayvon! Remember Trayvon!”

“I meant it as a peaceful way,” Watts said. “What happened to Trayvon, I was not responsible for, I live 1,000 miles away! But they kept saying, ‘Kill him! Kill Him! Kill him!’ because I’m a white man.”

The elderly man’s remark reportedly set the youths into a rage as one punched him in the back of the head knocking him to the ground, at which point he was drop-kicked in the chest. One of the boys then allegedly placed his foot on the back of Watts’ neck as another shouted, “Kill him.”

According to a police report, the boys then began kicking him ruthlessly and repeatedly and shouting, “[Get] that white [man]. This is for Trayvon … Trayvon lives, white [man]. Kill that white [man].”

When a bystander shouted at the boys, they reportedly ran away.

Of the remark about Trayvon Martin, Watts said he was simply trying to reason with the boys before they beat him.

“All I meant by saying ‘remember Trayvon’ is to remember what happened to him, don’t duplicate it here,” Watts told Toledo Blade. “The only reason I mentioned Trayvon, that was my defense, don’t pick on me. I am not your enemy.”

Only three of the juveniles have been charged in relation to the case. The 11-year-old and 17-year-old are charged with robbery and are being held by authorities. According to Fox Toledo, the third was charged with disorderly conduct. The 17-year-old was facing a previous felony assault charge stemming from a shooting that occurred March 18, according to reports. Local police are still investigating the incident.

“You don’t pick somebody’s body up off the sidewalk and let somebody else give him a lick to kick the ribs,” Watts said. “That was malicious intent. That was a hate crime and I want them punished for it!”

Watts, who is battered but expected to make a full recovery, has reportedly contacted a lawyer and is working to file hate charges with the U.S. Attorney General’s office. Toledo detectives on Wednesday, however, said that they do not believe the attack was racially motivated despite Watt’s allegations that the youths repeatedly made verbal references to his being white, according to reports.

An interview with Watts from Fox Toledo:


 
A recent article penned by the Southern Poverty Law Center discussing the Trayvon Martin controversy declares, “Walking while black — merely being black — still seems to be a crime in this country.” And, “Black youth are seen as bad kids — ‘combatants,’ in the words of one police chief whose officers routinely mace school children as a means of discipline.”

According to Watts’ account of his ordeal, walking while white—merely being white—was his crime in the eyes of the youths who beat him. And, according to his account, for being white he was viewed as racist. But the police say “case closed” on the possibility of hate being the motivation in the attack.

It has been said by scholars who study race relations that the term “reverse racism” means nothing, as racism is racism. Perhaps in light of the recent heavy focus on race in the Nation, they should re-examine the term for a new meaning: Being viewed as a racist for simply not belonging to a minority race. Regarding the case of Martin, many people have pondered whether the story would have so captivated—and in some circles, enraged— the Nation if George Zimmerman had been portrayed as a man of white and Hispanic descent rather than simply white in initial media reports.

White, frail, elderly, bald, sporting a long beard—or as one clever commenter to an online story put it: looking nothing like Barack Obama’s could-be son—Watts will likely get little support for his hate crime charge from the same type of people who are so adamantly seeking justice for  Martin. Justice may well be blind, but often the people who demand and administer justice in America certainly are not.

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • Sirian

    There have been other incidents such as this before. The rule of law pertains to this case as it does to the the Martin/Zimmerman case in Sanford,FL. Let all evidence and facts be ferreted out and from that a decision made by the local DA. Standard application of the law. In this case charges have already been made against three of the six – the other three may face charges also, that will be decided later. There are two minor exceptions to this case though – the attack took place in broad daylight and even more so, Watts wasn’t wearing a hoodie – isn’t that unusual? Why or why isn’t the powerful defense team of Sharpton & Jackson heading to Toledo? Will this one make it to the MSM and be broadcast for weeks? Watch out, there’s gonna be whitey riots all over the place. Where’s the Prez?, Where’s the Prez? Sound familiar?. . . :)

    • firefight

      Sirian,
      Yes, In stark contrast to the Martin/Zimmerman case, Watts was attacked by, not one but six youths, some white some black, he was attacked in daylight, he was not wearing a hoodie, he was not walking through a neighborhood watch community in the dark, he didn’t offer up any physical resistance nor did he attack them, they premeditatedly did attack him with one kid yelling “kill him” which demonstrates their intent and lastly, he is a man who has served his country in time of need, not some “kicked out of school” black kid who used drugs and damaged school property. I just wish he had been a Marine. As for Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Rev. Jeremiah Wright and President Barak Obama, which is the other stark contrast, Watts will get no favors of support from them……..proving conclusively who the racists really are. I am, of course, appauled that any white kids would side up with any black kids, as these obvously did, with any black gang or mob mentality. That speaks volumes for what integration has done for all of us. Little wonder parents are yanking their kids out of public schools opting for private schools or home bound schooling.

      Now, for the police in this incident……to say this was not a hate crime and not racialy motivated, I say, BS! Your feeble attempt to defuse any possible further such events is pathetic. The public is not that dumb and the caucasion race knows when they are being shammed. As for the news media, they will say nothing because the puppet masters have already told them to ignor this. But, for those of us who remain vigilant, the acts of individuals like this will not go unnoticed. This is another attempt by our government and the officials beneath our leaders to further divide the races and weaken our nation.

      • Sirian

        I agree firefight, “divide the races and weaken the nation.” Is this not another of the various Alinsky pre-staging plays? Quite so! That is why we will not hear anything of this on any of the MSM networks or for that matter, print media also. That’s why it is so very irritating to me to read comment after comment of people that simply cannot and in some respect, refuse to see how they either are or have been manipulated. I too agree with you in regards to the manner in which the Toledo police department has handled this. Sweep it under the rug, “case closed”. It should openly warrant at least a point to be intensely discussed between the black and white communities of Toledo. Neither side needs this. But with the heavy liberal influence, racial when available, such as in Florida, I seriously doubt it will ever happen. That’s why Sharpton, Jackson and the Prez pounce on situations that will be to their advantage, not the opposite. Remember that old saying – “Take advantage of a crisis”. Lord but do they ever. . . :(

      • http://www.ifonlyphotos.com Alex Frazier

        To be honest with you, I don’t think you can divide the races in the sense you’re meaning. If there is a race war, it will be between criminal blacks and self defending whites. And what I mean by that is, it is not the black man who is the problem. It is the criminals who use situations like these, or the Rodney King incident, to ransack their own neighborhoods, loot their neighbors’ stores, pull innocent white guys from trucks and beat them to death, etc. Those aren’t the acts of blacks, but of criminals.

        So race will be used as an excuse, but it won’t be blacks on whites. It will be criminals using their skin color as an excuse, attacking whites with their skin color as an excuse, and the whites defending themselves against criminal aggression.

        No one who is even moderately respectable would participate in a deliberate and outright race war. I have several long time black friends. Some of them are like brothers. Not one of them is holding a picket sign or crying racism. And more than half of them lived through the Civil Rights Movement.

        If a criminal approaches me with criminal intent, I will shoot him or her. If some want to call that a race war, they are welcome to do so. I call it enforcing law and order, which is part of our job as citizens, who are the militia.

      • R G W

        I agree.

      • http://PersonalLiberty Betty Turner

        The writer of this article is so true. What is happening in our country is terrible. I agree that Jackson, Sharpton and Obama will never say anything regrding the man that was beaten up. They are too much of a coward. They only go to start trouble. You never hear them go down or try to help tornado victims or anything good. I pray for the victim! Our country is in terrible condition under the leadership of Obama. I am 84 and have never in my life seen what is going on in the Democratic party. I had been a Democrat for years until I saw the hate and underminding the people they are doing in Congress. I pray that the new President will turn our country around, but unless the people get out and vote Obama out, it will continue to go to a Socialist country.

    • R G W

      This should be treated as a hate-crime, nothing less.

      • Will

        The very definition of a hate crime is unconstitutional and as such the Washington state hate crime law was vaporized. Now Washington state is liberal to the extreme but the law still failed on the grounds that ALL laws are to be administered equally among ALL citizens. This was an unprovoked attack due to race or not and all the boys should be accountable for their individual deeds. Those responsible for adult crimes should be tried by adult standards. (Kill him!). I believe that the Obama administration knows and doesn’t care that a race war would put 20% of the population against 80% who happen to be better trained better armed and that probably would only mobilize black youths maybe to the age of 26. If young black boys begin attacking lone white men across the country there would soon be a (young black boy) blood bath. This would then lend credence to the “need” to stop legitimate citizens from “terrorism” that only the president and his 250000 man “security force” (gun grabbing thugs), who are “just as well equipted and just as well armed, as the military”. The last quote was from an Uhbamma campaign speech. Combat policemen under order from the president, on U.S. soil, in other words. Keep cool until after we get rid of the obomination.

      • Rick

        RGW you are right. I thing is they are better at organizing. But when whtes riot we shuld be smarter and riot and rip up their neighborhoods. and before they can.

    • http://icetrout.wordpress.com icetrout

      Black’s =12% of U.S. population & they want to start a RACE WAR? MSM think’s Black American’s are that stupid.lol MSM doesn’t have a clue…

      • Erik

        I am a 41 year old African American male with no criminal record and i carry concealed with a permit from NYS. My 22 year old son is record free as well and i am a Ron Paul supporter. I work 2 jobs and i desire peace for all people. I am asking ALL white Americans to not let the MSM start the fire for a stupid race fight. In fact any so-called race war will be between the criminal blacks and well prepared whites who are prepping for economic collapse.
        I cannot stand Obama or Romney and we indeed need change in this country from the Presidency, Congress and The Supreme Court. I think the whole system really should be abolished and restarted all over again.

        • Bruce

          Eric thank you for speaking up. I would have your back in a war because I am against the slide to Marxism this country is on. I care not for the color of your skin, I care about your soul and what is in it. Communists are trying to destroy this country from within. Look closely and see one group being PLAYED against the next. To win we need to follow such advice as “love your neighbor as your self”. When we walk away from that line of thinking we become vulnerable to the DEVIL. Men need to stay in rational thinking, not fall to emotional thinking, then they would be much more safe from groups that are spreading hate fear and violence. Its those that are using the Devils TOOLS, hate, fear, anger, racism, violence, ect ect. to try to defeat our God, who by the way already had this fight and…..WON! All we need to do to become victorious is to stay close to the teachings of our God, and do things like “love your neighbor as your self”. And spread those non-violent beliefs to the “grain” in this field of weeds we live in. The time of the burning of the “weeds” is coming close, are you ready? are you good with your God?. Are you a weed or a head of “grain”?.

        • Jake48

          Erik : Your the first voice of reason ive seen on here. I agree whole heartily…..”Where have all our Heroes Gone!” Romney and Obummer are the best we can come up with we are all in trouble. Only thing I can see worse is them both running on the same ticket. As they are interchangeable……..

          • The Resolute Voice

            Romney is a 1000 times better person for the job than Obama. I wouldn’t even say the two names in the same breath. If you go read about Romney’s early life and his accomplishments and caring about others, you’ll understand the difference. Obama has hidden his life away so well, none of us know who he actually is, probably because he doesn’t want us to know.

          • Bruce

            he hides his past because he KNOWS if we find out who (and what country) he has been educated by and funded by, and what he has been told is the truth, we would riot and remove him, thus the new law about gathering where the secret police go is made illegal, step one. If he is proud of his past he will put it up on a pedestal for all to see and try to be like. If he is not proud of his past, it WILL be hidden. Why is that so hard to figure out?
            Those that hide their true intentions are very dangerous to this country. So are people who lie. How do we know this person so called Oboma is not a agent for a communist country?
            HOW DO WE KNOW????
            WE DON’T!
            Every other prez in history of this country we know a lot more about, why?
            He is definitely hiding, but what is he hiding? Religious beliefs? Marxist beliefs? His plan to destroy the US for another country?, perhaps even our enemies. What was that comment to the Russian prez, that he now jokes about, all about?. What did he really mean “more flexibility”, does that mean he will no longer have to represent the PEOPLE?… Jokes like a kid cought with his hand in the cookie jar. Can you see guilt on your child’s face? how about another persons face?
            On a scale of 1 to 10 how much do you REALLY trust him? Me its a one, or less. He acts like he is trying to destroy all we have built so to usher in Marxism. He is the most divicive prez ever. Divide he can do like a pro. When will he stand up to the black youth and tell them enough? GET ALONG WITH EVERY ONE ELSE? NEVER!. Why can the races not get along? Gov?.

      • http://www.ifonlyphotos.com Alex Frazier

        Erik, scan up and find my post higher up. It’s almost verbatim what you just said. There is no race war. It’s between criminals and the prepared. If race becomes part of the issue, it will be because it provides the criminals with an excuse, and no other reason. Whites don’t truly hate blacks, and blacks don’t truly hate whites. But criminals always love an excuse to commit crime.

    • Proud to be a Believer

      Listen Folks. Obama and group want to start riots now or at least by August so that martial law can be established and guess what, we can’t have an election now can we. So be vigiliant!!!

    • Al

      Unfortunately there is no other racism for anyother other race except for black folks, if you are of another color you dont count, and especialy if you are white its expected because through time its now allowed, white is the evil color . just ask the president he would clearly agree. just like the rich folks they are evil, is this presidential hatred for the American Dream why because most of the whites are rich and create jobs such as the oil companies and many others, unfortunately racism will always exist because if you stand out as an ass-hooole it doesnt matter what color you are your still an ass and wont be liked by anyone except some other ass who smells just like them selves,
      Racism is just an excuse to set things on fire and to fule more racism just ask reverand write and his follower OB.

      • Jake48

        He hates this country like most liberals that want to destrioy this country…..”They Got theres !” and as with anything new (socialism/Communism) there is room for wealth and power if you can get the little guys believe your fighting for them.And you get in on the Ground Floor. As Democrats all do….Tell me how many poor,or average income democrats have you seen in Office in your time? And these politition are all lawyers !!!!! Professional liars and bull sh– artists… As Perry mason would say! “I rest my case!”

  • Dwight Mann

    Fruit does not fall far from the tree.
    The parents of these youth are the ones that need to go to jail, as they raised the thugs to be that way.
    It is all a part of the racial division that our Fearful leader Øbama is instilling into the culture.
    Øbama is an abysmal failure. . .

    • Jim

      The parents of these thugs will say that they are all good kids and ae being picked on only because they are black, but what the parents won’t say is they have no idea where there kids are any time of day or night, they walk around in a pack and pick on defenseless white senior citizens.
      Where is the FBI to investigate Mr. Watts Civil rights being violated?

      I see they are checkeing all the neighbors in the neighborhood where Trayvon Martin was shot just hoping to find one that will say something damaging to George Zimmerman’s character but we won’t see and FBI agents investigating the case of Mr. Watts assault.

      The media is not even worth mentioning as well as Sharpton and Jackson they are just out and out racist.

      I only one or two white kids asaulted a black person and said remember Mr. Watts, they would be hauled first into state court then federal court and charged with assault and ethnic intimidation.

      The government is just as much to blame then the media, and the demogogues Sharpton and Jackson.

      • Wyatt

        Interesting , where are Jackson or Sharpton on this one ? But perhaps it is better they don’t get involved . I am fairly certain they will be blaming Mr Watts for the entire event . I notice the major media has not said to much on this incident , nor has our alleged president . But then an elderly man being beaten by 6 youths isn’t campaign or political fodder is it ?

        I don’t suppose he got a call from the president to see how he was or even an invite to the White House for a beer . To many times it gets written off as ” hey their kids ” . Sorry teens are not kids , they are young adults who know right form wrong . And Obama , who should have been a leader and peacemaker , fanned the flames with his ill advised comments in the Martin/Zimmerman case . If he wanted to do any good he would have told Jackson , Lee , Sharpton , the Black Panthers and the rest of the agitators to stay out of it and allow the police to do their job . Lets forget that the event took place a month before lame stream media picked it up and turned it into a media circus . But then I suspect ratings were off and they needed something to boost them and also distract the people from Barry O’s failing

    • Yahchile

      This is True! If more parents would stand up to their children and disipline them like when I was a kid, they would not be that way most likely

      • http://PersonalLibertyNews Orval

        Remember,,,,, ” It is 9 o’clock,,, do you know where your children are?”….. We need to be more aware of our kids where abouts at ALL times of the day.

      • Jake48

        Al is doing his Mistrel show up in Harlem! And Jesse went back under his Rock!

    • http://icetrout.wordpress.com icetrout

      Obama think’s he’s still a Chicago Street Thug selling coke…

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003537466597 Delroy Brown

      You are the one who should be put in jail for spreading your hate and anti Obama dogma. You need to go and educate yourself on what is happening to the country and how we got here. Obama did not create the from , he inherited it . The problem cannot be fixed overnight when one side preach hatred lie and fear. Grow up.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Delroy, may I refer you to Eric’s comment posted aheadof yours.
        You’ve made it very clear to those that have read your comment in another “Trayvon” related article that you are a hater and refuse to accept the facts, any facts for that matter. Like a lot of liberals do , you prefer to espouse your ignorance and hate in an open forum.

  • http://aol Norm Grodi

    All though everyone knows that these were BLK youths that attacked Watts , But why has this not been said , if this had been white kids it would have be all over the news on every station. WALKING WHILE WHITE….!.

    • eddie47d

      Every city has ugly incidences that aren’t always reported to other parts of the county. Denver is a fairly decent place to live but we occasionally have gang problems and black on white situations or even white on black problems.Few of the incidences are worthy of national attention although we have had a couple of police beatings/shootings where cops were acting badly. The Trayvon Martin and Dallas Watts cases as unfortunate as they are shows us how local incidences can blow up and focus on racial divisions. The Dallas Watts situation can be looked at as worse since it was a reaction to something else and the kids were trolling for any victim they could find. They went out looking for a crime to commit.

    • Doc Sarvis

      In the early paragraphs it said it was a mis of kids; ” It was then that he was approached by a group of six boys, some of whom were white and some black.”

  • tim

    Obama and his justice dept are racists. They have taken it to the media who is also trying to start a race war!!! Anyone with any intelligence can see this. Now they use this bulklsh!t in florida as an excuse!!!! What happened to the black teenagers in kansas who set a white child on fire by pouring gasoline on him!!!! Not a dam thing!! Watch your’e back people, and if you are defending yourself, make sure it is self defense. The criminals in washington will do anything they can to take you down!!!! Especially if your’e white!!!! Obama’s new race law only pertains to protection for blacks!!!!!!

    • Bruce

      try him for treason, why not?

  • Jake48

    AS USUAL ! If your white you cant press charges against blacks for hate crimes. The ones that actually did the assault I will bet my bottom dollar they are black! S— in this country never changes. It just get worse for christians, and Whites……Were is AL. and Jesse….This mans preacher priest whatever should be on TV,The Pope,Cardinal…..Rabbi. the blacks sure as hell no how to ressurect these bums…..Faster than Jesus Did…..

  • Jake48

    Obummer said “If I would have had a Grandfather he would look like Dallas Watts! ” only he would be from Kenya, Ireland, Connecticut, Hawaiii…..?????? One of those places”

  • Jake48

    Shhhhheeeessssshhhhh In God We Trust! If he hasnt turned his back on us?????

    • steveo

      No….. America by in large has turned its back on him….

      • Deborah

        You nailed it, 100% Steveo. American has turned it’s back. But hey why should we be different than the original Israelites. When will we get the message to turn back is the question??

      • mark smith

        AMEN!!!!!

    • eddie47d

      Looks like Tim and Jake48 and even Bob are the ones stirring the racial pot. You’re hyping up the same crap we have heard for decades and Obama wasn’t even President back then. New excuses to bring out old hatreds. You not only seem to want it but are ALSO begging for it.

    • Sue

      Read the poem,’Foot Prints in the Sand’. God never turns his back on his belivers.

      • eddie47d

        Great poem and words of wisdom.

      • castaway

        The key is believers.

        • Jake48

          I’m afraid that ship has sailed my friend!

  • http://yahoo bob peters

    A gang of blacks so tough beating an old feeble man! Race war is close at hand because The White man has had enough! Lets see who prevails! Once it starts it wont end with a hand shake..it will be total!

    • Doc Sarvis

      From the article;”It was then that he was approached by a group of six boys, some of whom were white and some black.” Please read.

      • firefight

        Doc, Thanks for pointing this out. This fact, however, doesn’t deminish the sharpness of the sword. This is what integration has done for us. The government’s attempts to force blacks and whites into the same social atmosphere has not worked so well. Forcing any two cultures that are so different to co-exist is extremely difficult if not impossible. How about what’s now happening all over America with Muslim “honor” killings? How is that working? These white kids are black sympathizers. More than likely weaker minded and easily influenced and probably less liked by their white contemporaries. They chose the path of least resistance and decided to hang with the black kids and look at where it has gotten them. Integration has really done a spendid job of uniting us, hasn’t it? Score one more for the Fed.

      • eddie47d

        Maybe Firefight would relinguish HIS state and have all blacks move there. How about Mississippi? I think the problem lies with folks like you who insist nothing will work but can’t come up with any civilized solution yourself.

        • Robert

          ATTIDUE ATTIDUE ATTIDUE… THIS IS VERY SIMPLE TO CHANGE FROM HATE TO LOVE, OR DIE.

    • R G W

      I am ready for that too, I am going to get a gun permit to carry for protection.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003537466597 Delroy Brown

      For those looking to give Zimmerman a pass for his bigotry and murder of Trayvon nothing will stop you. Zimmerman is not the first person to murder an innocent black kid based on racial profile and bigotry, the KKK has ,police and right wing hate groups has been doing it for years without being brought to justice.Trayvon is latest victim and only gained attention because of social media and the police inaction in the aftermath, the DA refusal to arrest is the fuel that light the fire , let murderer prove his case in a court of law. by this standard we can all murder any one who look at us the wrong way and claim self defense. Under this scenario if we all have a gun pretty soon we will all be dead. No one is safe , no matter your station in life or profession. This is uncivilized to me. You will always find an innocent white being victimized by a criminal minded black if you search hard enough.They should be brought to justice and and often are , just look at our jails. For Racist among us please stop congratulating yourself every time you find one of these incident. It does not absolve Zimmerman of what he did.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Stupid is as stupid does
        Forrest Gump

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        Jeff – what was it that can’t be fixed after all is said and done – :)

    • castaway

      I’m ready, lets get started, then we can start on the queers, and eliminate that sick segment of society.

  • B. Holmes

    “In the name of Trayvon Martin”.. are Black parents teaching their boys not to enter guarded fenced areas? This can be dangerous. Teach it in the “Name of Trayvon”.
    Smart people would never think of doing that. Teach them not to carry burglar tools through someone else’s property. It might be dangerous…”In the name of Trayvon Martin”.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003537466597 Delroy Brown

      Are you insinuating that Trayvon was carrying a burglar’s tool or stolen property , because if you are that makes you in my opinion worst than George Zimmerman. There might be hope for Zimmerman if he is willing to see the error of his way. But for you as an independent observer given all that we know in the case, to come out and say what you have in the name of justifying Zimmermans action and blame black parent’s is beyond contempt. I pray to God this happen to someone in your family as it might be the only way to change your heart.

      • The Resolute Voice

        Unfortunately, Trayvon’s parents are somewhat to blame for the tragedy, not the death per se. The boy had been suspended three times in a year, so something was going on with him at school that wasn’t good. Also, he was visiting his father and fiance in Sanford, and they were apparently gone that evening instead of keeping an eye on the boy or taking him and the other boy with them. If you have a teen on suspension, you don’t let that person run around alone or spend hours on a cell phone with his girl friend.You get involved. And when you come home at 10:30 p.m. and the teen isn’t there, you don’t just go to bed or make a single cell phone call and not proceed further. The other boy there knew Trayvon had gone to the convenience store and not come back and probably said so. So why did the father and the fiance simply go to bed without looking for him? Supposedly they thought Trayvon had gone to see his cousin 11 miles away. Well, how did he get there? Walk? Drive a second car? Get a ride? Kids get in trouble because adults don’t pay attention for a lot of reasons, some necessary sometimes and some from very poor judgment.

      • castaway

        I agree with what is said about black parents, Also blacks do not need to be soooo very much trouble. Is there some mysterious force that makes them violent and unable to follow rules, or obey laws? You cannot call someone a racist for knowing that blacks in general, are trouble whereever they are. They simply see everything differently than the rest of us.That is why they should all return to Africa where they can be who they are, and not a pain in the ass for the rest of us.

  • Tom Cook

    Whites and others, arm up. Blacks, like Trayvon, understand the message of the 9mm.

    • Doc Sarvis

      And President Obama is accused of divisivness??? Yours comment above is racist.

      • frenchy

        Define the word RACISTS please

      • Capitalist at Birth

        F.R.O. Commie Pinko Fag

      • firefight

        Doc,
        I don’t see Tom’s statement as being racist, necessarily. Black kids do understand what a 9mm is all about. Many of them have at least one. The message I got was one of preparredness. I personally have a concealed carry permit and although I don’t always carry, when I do, it is deliberate because of where I am traveling. Doc., there are places where one just shouldn’t go without some kind of defense plan and to simply say, “well, just don’t go there” sometimes isn’t an option. While living and working in Birmingham, Alabama, my job required me to service people of color in a neighborhood that was completely black. YOU DID NOT want to be in that neighborhood after dark if you were white and that was back in the 80′s. One of our employees made that mistake and had blacks throw bricks at her car, breaking out the windshield and denting it up pretty good. The cops were called but never showed up. Nothing has changed in the relationship between blacks and whites in the neighborhood. Imagine being white and trying to buy a home in such a neighborhood. Not exactly a warm and fuzzy thought.

      • castaway

        I beg to differ. Calling a black person something you do not like is not racist, as it is simply a observation being stated. The fact is that 60-80% of blacks are in trouble with the law at one point or another in their lives. Why do we continue to tolerate there (expletive deleted)? We need to repeal all the civil rights laws from the 60′s, that have been bringing us down eversince.Since that time the blacks have not become more civilized, nor earned the right to have more rights than the rest of us. Are you black Doc, or just dieing of Dumbness?

    • eddie47d

      My point above is now proven by Tom Cook. Not a one of you has a clear head any more than Al Sharpton and you too are out looking for trouble.

    • bpante

      Since Sharpton came to Florida gun sales are through the roof. You can’t even get near a gun store, the lines are around the block.

      It is not a matter of stand your ground. It is protect your family.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003537466597 Delroy Brown

      Live by the sword die by the sword. It’s people with your mentality that breeds the Osama Bin Laden’s of the world. You need to just go shoot yourself . You are a waste of human space and contribute little the evolution of society and America if all you preach is hatred and death.

      • Ladyhawke

        Why is it that liberals only quote Jesus saying “those who live by the sword, die by the sword”? He was not talking about self defense there, he was talking about those who suppress others by the use of force. He also told his disciples “If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy a sword”. Are you trying to say Jesus was a flip-flopper?
        No, God (Jesus) never changes. We have a right and a duty to protect ourselves and our brothers from tyranny.

      • castaway

        He speaks the truth, and which group is a waste of space on this planet? Hmmm!

    • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

      Tom Cook…you’re a racist for obvious reasons!

  • Terry

    Use white people can’t file hate crimes against them, they can file hate crimes against the whites. What a joke.

    • Yahchile

      @Terry..You’re so right! I lived in L.A. When the Rodney King Riots were happening. Everyone mostly stayed indoors, but I was a fearless person so I went out one day on my bicycle. While riding down the street a man opened his car door knocking me into the middle of the street. I was hurt and my bike was totaled. No One would help me. I went into the shop he had just come out of and they just ‘acted’ like they didn’t know who he was. They wouldn’t even call the police for me!

      Bottom line is I bought me a 38 special!

  • KD

    WEEELLLL as people like to say. we dont know what actually happened!! its his word against the five of them!!lets try it in a court of law before convicting those youths…. RIGHT??!!Welcolm to the world of racism. park your bags to the right cause you will be staying for awhile.. BUUUT you only have that old geesers version of what happened RIGHT??!!

    • Capitalist at Birth

      What is your point? And why did you call him an old geezer? Is that a bias against people older than you? I don’t like people younger than me, Especially ignorant examples such as yourself.

      • firefight

        Hidee Ho there Capitalist,
        Us old “Geezers” have to stick together. I pretty much would like to have been in Dallas’ shoes when those six little sh–s jumped him. There wouldn’t have been a sucker punch to the back of my head and they wouldn’t have gotten me on the ground. As for the one yelling, “kill him,” he’d be yelling something a bit different if his mouth still worked. There are a few of us Nam Vets that can still kick ass.

        My Grandpa’s words. “Don’t ever start a fight. But if you find yourself in one, be sure that you’re the one who ends it.”

        Just waiting for the moment.

      • Yahchile

        Right on!! This is biased against seniors!

      • cdub

        Capitalist,

        I do not know KD and not defending, however… Did anyone stop to think maybe that was an example of sarcasm? Notice the capitalized words.

        Then again, I could be mistaken. In the mean time, I will be cleaning my AR and keep practicing.

    • Yahchile

      You’re sick! how old are you? Are you a child KD? Does he look like he can make trouble for anyone?

      • firefight

        Yahchile,
        You never know. Like I said, “waiting for the moment.” Imagine the headlines and how the media will report it when one “old geezer” beats the crap ot of and disables six kids ages 11 to 17 of mixed race. It will probably play up the poor little a–holes as precious children just having fun when some old “military” trained codger misunderstands their intent and attacks them. Kinda like Clint Eastwood in “Gran Torino.” Right? These kids needed to have their butts beat a long time ago but the government would have arrested their parents for child abuse. Score another for the Feds and their interferrence, overeach into family lives. Spare the rod and spoil the child. And when the child becomes an adult, you have bigger problems. I believe this last statement has proven itself.

  • wsk

    Hate to break it to you folks, but the courts have determined on numerous occasions that it is impossible to commit a “hate” crime against white people or discriminate aginst white males or Christians, because were have majority status.

  • wsk

    Sorry that is “because we have…..

  • James

    Trayvon Martin was shot two blocks from my home and if I had the windows open I would have heard the shot that is now heard all over the world because of Sharpton and Jackson and they are the people ( I use the word people very loosely) that should be shot for the LIES just as Obama lies.

    • Doc Sarvis

      I see, so now if you are black and if you lie (or are assumed to have lied) you should be shot. How does that make any sense???

      • Capitalist at Birth

        You’ve got that right, Doc.

      • firefight

        Doc.,
        Pardon my interruption here but I don’t believe James said, “if you’re black and you have lied, you should be shot.” What he said was to intimate that people like Jackson, Sharpton and Obama who encourage further racial tension and division by their “racially” motivated interpretations of what happened, should be shot. I don’t necessarily believe that they should shot outright but at least held accountable for their actions, arrested, tried in a court of law and then shot. Have a nice day.

      • Doc Sarvis

        firefight, your interpretation would include most of those who posted on this thread.

      • castaway

        Well doc, when you have a rat infestation, you set out traps. We now have a disobediant ape problem in this country.Set the traps!

    • James

      I’m not the ‘James” who wrote that, I live in Arkansas.

  • http://httpaol.com sean murrey ILLInio

    these kids look up the black gangta as a role model not in my day.

  • Chinaman

    Our US Attorney General has stated that he will not prosecute any black on white crimes because discrimination can only occur when you have white on black crime. This is part of the change that President Obama promised us. That is part of the new day we now live in.

  • Ithamar

    The esteemed former long time senator from West Virginia once made reference to ” white niggers”. Could he have had in mind the likes of the white boys who accompanied the black boys in this assault on the elderly white man with cries of ‘kill the white man?”

    • wsk

      That would be Robert “Sheets” Byrd (DEMOCRAT, W. Va.). Not only did he make those and other racial comments, He was also a recruiter ( Grand Kleagle) of the Ku Klux Klan.
      Which Party is the racist one?

    • Jake48

      Those are “Wiggers!”

  • http://PersonalLiberty FEDUP

    unfortunately Nobamma and his DOJ are accomplishing exactly what they set out to do, after reading several of your posts they are turning US as Americans against each other because of the color of our skin. Instead of pushing their agenda ahead look at a news without checking out the color or race of the persons involved. If we start looking at news stories as the media writes them they will have us divided right down color lines, WE need to unite as American citizens against those trying to destroy out country, a.k.a. the government. Black, white, brown, green or yellow, doesn’t matter, this government is taking our freedoms away one at a time, in the end the closer WE are as people the better chance WE have to get OUR country back.

    • Wumingren

      FEDUP, that’s the best comment so far. People are angry about a lot of things, and it would appear that someone in authority simply wants to focus that anger away from themselves. There is no easier way to do that than to foment racial tension and distrust. When the people are all turning on each other, they will be blind to the real source of their distress: the government.

      As for the media’s treatment of racial tensions, I am reminded of when I was a school kid and seeing the occasional fight on the playground. Two guys would be facing off, while others circled around them. One of the things that I noticed is that, most of the time, the two combatants were reluctant to throw the first punch, so the mob would close in on them, pushing them into each other to get it started. They would not be denied their chance to see a little blood. If a teacher happened upon the scene, the fight would end immediately.

      What we have today is a media mob that circles around, pushing and shoving in the hope of seeing a little blood. Obama and the DOJ should be the adults putting a stop to a potential race war, but they decided to stand on the sidelines and take bets on the fight. They’re betting that a race war will achieve extralegal political ends, and with everyone focused on each other instead of the government, they hope to get away with it.

      • Yahchile

        Yes, “why can’t we all just get along?’ Rodney King

      • http://teamlaw.org Jazzabelle

        Excellent, Wumingren. You hit the nail on the head.

    • Bruce

      If we would “love our neighbor as our selves” our government could not play one group (any group) against the next. A belief in religion by everyone (non-violent religions) would make it very hard for the gov to manipulate us citizens. So why does the gov do everything it can to destroy Christianity and other religions EXCEPT Islam? Because if followed everyone EVERYONE in the US would be getting along nicely, as God intended. I have not turned my back on God, and those that have should quickly “turn around”, time is short your decisions final…

    • castaway

      NO the problem is white versus black, and do not include anyother race, as they also cannot get along with the blacks (the devils race), no more than whites can.

  • Ray Jones

    I look like Watts the only difference being I live deep in the woods because I saw the writing on the wall a long time ago . I feel perfectly safe except when I have the misfortune of having to visit a large city . In that scenario I feel it is better to be judged 12 than carried by 6 .

  • Ted G

    Shouldn’t Flashy be commenting here that these youths should be arrested and prosecuted. Based on the racists comments of some of these youths (it doesn’t matter if some of them were white). Isn’t this exactly the result that the media, sharpton and Jackson and all the rest of those lowlifes wanted?

    Come on lets try them in the court of uninformed public opinion!

    • Opal the Gem

      Flashy’s mommy made him go play in the sandbox today so he won’t be posting.

  • Stuart Shepherd

    Try living in WASHINGTON, DC if you want to experience black-on-white racism and racist assaults!!! I’m white, and was once attacked on a PUBLIC bus by a gang of black youth. I was the only white person on the bus. I was thrown to the floor and repeatedly kicked. The male black driver did nothing to stop it. When I escaped the bus and called 9-1-1 the African American (by voice) respondents were not interested in having the police pursue the matter.
    Another time (but there are many) a “Black Power” group of (well-dressed) young men, disguised as a religious group (something about the tribes of Israel) orated on a platform, using microphones, about the “evil white man” and all the manifestations of that evilness, in front of the busiest metro stop, a central downtown location, in front of an extremely large crowd of African-American supporters. Can you imagine if the “shoe was on the other foot?” There would be riots and abundant news coverage! Even my wife, who is black (!), was loudly ridiculed for being with a white man!! Sound familiar?!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003537466597 Delroy Brown

      I can tell from your tone why the bus driver did not come to your aid, you sound like a troublemaker to me, very judgemental and every bit deserving of what you got. Its very sad that just by your tone insinuation and blaming everyone for the action of an uncivilized few you are liable to encounter the saqme problem if you bring the same attitude to the wrong environment.

      • Ray Jones

        It is a hard decision who do I hate most non whites or our corrupt government that has destroyed what was once a great country and left us with a third world cess pool . I don’t even particularly like guns and now I feel the need to go about armed . Separation of the races is the only answer .

    • castaway

      Sounds like “Planet of the Apes” for real.

  • Florida Rooster

    Just another aspect of “Hope and Change.” We can’t expect anything different from Obama and Holder – they will use race to their advantage when they can, and ignore everthing else that does not fit their victim strategy. The Black Panthers can put a bounty on Zimmerman, intimidate and threaten voters, and that’s perfectly OK with Obama and Holder. Disgusting, isn’t it?

    • Bruce

      can a white group put a bounty on the kids that attacked this old man?
      Or would that be considered “attempting to hire a hit man”.
      How can the new black panthers get away with offering a bounty on a white man?
      If a rich white man said I will pay anyone $100.00 to kill a black person how would that fly?
      If a rich white man offered a reward for the capture of the kids that beat the old man, HOW WOULD THAT FLY?????
      THINK

      • castaway

        Bruce “I think”, if a rich white man put a bounty of $100 on blacks, or even the kids in the crime we speak of, he would have many takers!!!!!!!!! I do however agree with your main point about when the shoe is on the other foot. It is however a product of those lame civil rights laws, that were passed over 40 years ago and should now be repealed, as the they have proven useless. The laws have also proven what many have said about blacks. Most of us are really tired of the black problem, and are tied down with these civil rights laws.

  • sabulaman

    R U Getting pissed yet?

  • uvuvuv

    the trouble is we aren’t inordinately fond of gays, blacks and illegals in the first place, we just have to tolerate them because we’re told to and anyway there they are. and so actually we do. i read this book which was an indepth study called the black diaspora and to sum it up, if the blacks were the only race on earth they would still have problems, but of course only with each other. need proof? haiti? uganda? central african republic? congo? rwanda? somalia? we have all seen the satellite photos showing africa at night. and this despite their massive oil, gold, cacao, coffee and cola nut wealth. and on these shores, the social worker is showing this black lady her apartment in cabrini green. she says, wait a minute, it’s all blacks here, right? aren’t i good enough to live with the whites? this is what that book was getting at.

  • Mike Thomas

    I only hope, for the black community, that they hold a line because they should remember, they are only twelve to thirteen percent of the population. And in a shooting war, that is not very good odds.

    • wsk

      True, but they are much more willing to be violent……

      • Bruce

        whitey WILL get to the point where he is willing to become MORE VIOLENT that the blacks are towards whitey today. 12% of the population intimidating the rest? NO WAY!
        Something is dreadfully wrong. We need to apply “the fix” a love of God and country, man.

      • Will

        Only the untrained kids would be that stupid and impressionalble.

  • Raggs

    oblama started all of this… If he gets what he wants a race war things are going to get UGLY fast!….

  • sjg

    In this day and age if you are WHITE, CHRISTIAN and CONSERVATIVE you are DOG SH–. The hate crime law does not apply to white people unless you are the white perpetrator.

  • Doug

    So now from all I am reading it not about right and wrong and being taught the basics on how to treat each other. Its white and black hatred believe me I understand their are many racist in each camp but don’t blame the crime on the skin color blame it on ignorance judge people on their heart and actions not their skin color. Lets face it there are just to many idiots alive today. If the government would got out of the way and let dump people die like they should instead of passing stupid laws to keep them from killing themselves then we would not have so much stupity in this country!

  • Mike Thomas

    I guess they will do what they have always done and burn down their own communities. And they wonder why no companies will build retail outlets in their communities. If a mob of whites went to a black community and began tearing the place down and burning it, they would be shot at from many directions. If a mob of black people came to white community and began tearing the place down and burning it, they would be shot from many more directions. Let us all pray to our God this never comes true for all concerned.

  • Doc Sarvis

    There are good people and bad people in EVERY ethnic group! Across those groups the majority are basically good and the minority are “bad” to various degrees. Many above posts use blanket statements that completely oppose that fact.

    • Mike Thomas

      You are so very correct!

    • Yahchile

      The MOST correct statement so far!

    • uvuvuv

      yes doc, true words. but if you decide to go for a stroll at midnight i would guess there are neighborhoods where you wouldn’t want to try it.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Of course, and those neighborhoods may be occupied by any/every ethnic group. That is why we have a brain. Since the beginning of life, every individual (in every species) has had to decide where it is safe to go and where to avoid.

    • firefight

      You are a cool one Doc., and I see a lot of wisdom coming from your posts here. Still, we need to be vigilant and maintain situational awareness at all times. Even in places that we traditionally feel safe, the unexpected can occur. We are being thrust into perilous times by a self serving government that has placed everything we love and hold dear to us in jeopardy. We are seeing the reaction to lost jobs, lower living standards, higher prices and foreclosures. Any wonder people are angry and want to strike out at one another and our President, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the justice department have all grabbed the fan instead of the extingusher. Is that so hard to see?

      • Doc Sarvis

        What I see is that you and many others here are buying into the fear and hate (to various degrees) that the extreme Right is trying to push down the throats of the American people. Much of this site is devoted to convincing folks that things are awful while that is just not the case. I’m not saying all is peachy but it never was. We should all work toward building better outcomes as opposed to tearing down our country and each other.

      • firefight

        Doc., I will take what you say to heart but still, I don’t believe disarmament is a deterant to those who would do us harm…….on any level. As for buying into anything, I don’t. I do look at the bigger picture here and see what is really going on and I, for one, knowing that flames are being fanned will choose to heighten my state of awareness. You can let down your guard if you so choose, but I choose not to. Simple question. Knowing how many vehicles are being stolen each year, do you leave yours unlocked? This has nothing to do with “buying into” anything. It has everything to do with the changing times and our current political climate.

      • firefight

        Oh, one more thing. It is the extreme LEFT, not the right, that is cramming all this stuff down our throats. I don’t believe Jesse Jackson, Jeramiah Wright, Al Sharpton or Barak Obama can qualify as right winged. That left side is reserved for the Socialist in our society.

    • The Resolute Voice

      Your comment is very true, BUT don’t ignore the bad people in any group just because of who they are or a popular political agenda. If George Zimmerman is found to have broken the law, he should be arrested and tried by a jury, not the press or the President or civil rights groups.. If these kids attacked Mr. Watts and violated his civil rights as a senior or a white person,, they they should be prosecuted in the same way, i.e, not as juveniles or wayward teens, but as adults who attacked a man and then verbally threw racial insults and more physical abuse at him because of who he is.

    • castaway

      Your statement is full of holes, and is basically false. Also you have not been paying attention, or maybe ignoring the events.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003537466597 Delroy Brown

      I agree with you , this site attracts some people of very extremist view. They fail to see the good in humanity. There is always good in the worst of us and always bad in the best of us. Therefore it ill behoves any of us to sit and judge the rest of us. Several people use this sight to espouse their hatred bigotry and racist views. This lends nothing to the conversation. Why cant we have honest conversation? Its because, some of us are too weak and coward, we use the cover of cyberspace to air our racist and distasteful views. I am willing to bet that many of these people have neighbors who would be shock to know the depth of hatred and divisiveness in their heart or the views they hold to. The sad part is we work with these people , go to church with them and probably socialize with them . Its scary, you see a man’s face but you cant see his heart.

    • castaway

      Get a grip Doc Sarvis. That in itself is a stupid statement from a liberal, like this one,”not in my life time”. You cannot run from the truth like you are trying to do. I get really tired of it. Well, then if all groups have good and bad, tell me why the black group has only about 5% good?

  • ladybug

    http://www.petition2congress.c… Go to this website and sign the petition to vet Obama and check into his eligibility to be president. Send this to everybody on your mailing list. Ask them to do the same. We must keep up the pressure on congress till they do the right thing. If the link doesn’t work, cut and paste.

    Jessie and Sharpton will be noticeably absent from any comments on this crime. It would not promote their agenda of racial disturbance. They make their living by causing discord.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003537466597 Delroy Brown

      Without them black people have no strong advocate to voice their grievance. Its terrifying to think of the day when there is no voice for the disenfranchised and powerless among us. Black and white.

      • castaway

        Well if you blacks would learn from all the other races, how to do things, there would be no disenfranchise ment. You do stupid, you get the results of stupid.

  • rb

    The race division politics currently promoted by the this administration have been promoted by the Democrats since the Clinton’s implemented “divide and conquere” during their very first term. A people divided can be ruled by a totalitarian government. A people united will fight a totalitarian government. Simple. Our government needs division to keep its stranglehold on power.

    • Bruce

      a strong belief in the good of God and his message would go a long way towards healing this country’s gov created divisions. So our government should encourage people to believe in a religion of peace, not spread hate and fear. Hate and fear are the TOOLS of the devil. So look closely as to who the devil is using today for the purpose of spreading the hate and fear that only comes directly from the devil. Anyone today spreading hate and fear is in the devils army, and they are many. But “the few” backed by God can still defeat large groups quite well. Many stories in the Bible about small groups defeating large groups because God was behind them, and they trusted in God. David and Goliath comes to mind. Have FAITH IN THE GOOD OF GOD.

  • Paul

    Mr. Watts was wrong in not wanting his children to have a gun around them in their lives.

    My father taught me how to use a gun on my 8th birthday as he did my older brothers. And I used it as a boy during WWII to hunt for food when you could hardly find any in the stores back then.

    Likewise, I taught my children how to use one early in their lives and I’ve kept one in my home ever since I’ve owned a home.

  • Jennifer M

    If nothing else this should be a “crime against the elderly” we know that is still a law..

  • uvuvuv

    wait a minute now, does this guy look like someone who was repeatedly kicked? where are the black eyes, the contusions and bruises? the same with george zimmerman. what i’m getting at is, the inciters are saying, oh in that police video he looks okay to me. well he was cleaned up! the same with this fellow.

    • Viet Nam Vet 67-68

      You must be blind not to see the contusions and black eye right there in the photo and you can’t see the black and blue marks on his body because he is dressed. Maybe your blackness gives you the blind eye, its racists Idiots that keep Racism going, I used to for 40 years back blacks in the work place and in friendships, then I worked in Oakland California for 3 1/2 years and found who the real Racists are and I no longer back blacks or have black friends because deep down all blacks hate Whites. Blacks like sharpton and j. jackson keep racism alive and ignorant blacks pick up the banner of hatred as fast and as often as they can and if you think this is going to make things better you and yours are CRAZY and you will lose a race war.

    • castaway

      Is it a “before or after picture”?

  • Viet Nam Vet 67-68

    I just made a comment about black on white hate crimes never being prosecuted because there is no such thing but black, mexican and muslim hate crimes by whites. Where does it say anywhere in the Constitution that you can violate someone reguardless of color and give one person a higher sentence because of skin color.

    • eddie47d

      Good point so why are blacks given higher sentences than any other group of people for a similar crime committed?

      • firefight

        Eddie47d,
        Please provide evidence of that statement. I do not believe you.

      • Bruce

        compare the penalties for “crack” cocaine and the penalties for just cocaine.
        Africans use much more crack than the richer white cocaine users. Crack cocaine sentences were about 10 times longer. Is that a good enough example for you?
        Why allow the gov to PUSH division OF ANY KIND?
        That should be unconstitutional if it is not already.

      • eddie47d

        Thank you Bruce for I have been gone most of the day.

      • castaway

        You get one guess, and the first one don’t count! It is not racism for sure.It is history based.

      • Jake48

        Its called recivicism, or reoffending which ever you prefer……Judges get tired of the same faces over and over again. In NYCity youths reoffend 7-10 times before they ever see a reform school.The first time… And because of the racial breakdown most reoffeders happen to be black,and hispanic.In contrast in upstate NY a kid breaks the rules 1-2 times he is in reform school. And he learns this behavior wont be tolerated. Plea bargaining is a joke. And rewards poor behavior which becomes the Norm….Any one who watches TV knows Judge Judy….she was one of the biggest critics of the legal system for youths in NY. As a family court judge she tried her best to be impartial. But knew the system was broken. One thing all races have in Common. The Majority of Juvenles have NO Birth fathers that are role models in there houses. The men in their lives walk in and out like the mothers bed had a turnstile….

  • Kerry

    Everybody do your country a favor and kick anyones ass saying politicially correct, and only blacks can use Hate Crime against other color of folks skin. Maybe beat every liberal, or muslim or aethesits just to send them a message, mess with America equals getting your ass kicked!

  • Lee

    All 6 of these little [offensive word removed] should go to jail. You can bet if I was walking by there and seen them beating up this old man, they would have gotten an old fashioned ass wooping.

    • wsk

      Then you would have been charged with a hate crime, because we can look into your soul and understand your malicious intent…..

      • Bruce

        A BLACK MAN CAN NOT HAVE VICIOUS INTENT?
        IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?

        • The Resolute Voice

          Black people can have vicious intents and so can white people and purple and green people, etc., etc., But when you excuse blacks legally for doing what black accuse whites of doing and then expect whites to be charged ( even when rightfully they should be), then we have a serious problem in this country. Why not look at all people as human first and respect each and every one and their rights without all the racial propaganda the media likes to throw around to make us hate each other more?

  • Doug

    You won’t hear about this on national news because it was a white man. To bad he didn’t have a gun and shoot all six of these WORTHLESS THUGS. So much for justice in America. You have to be Black and have two total dumb ass people like Jackson and Sharpton. Remember the guy that shot Travon was a Mexican also a manority. Oh ya he was half white so that makes him white. Look at Obama he is half white but yet he only claims to be black. What a WORTHLESS excuse for a prezident !!! A total Illegal running our Country as a Dictator.

    • castaway

      You have no right to defend yourself in this country anymore. Those days of common sense are gone, and have faded into history. You are supposed to summon the cops from your grave.

  • sallysuefriends

    Did President Obama call him

    • Bruce

      hahahahahaha Oboma call him? hilarious!

  • Jake48

    Evidently this has stirred a lot of Ill feelings and memories of people who have been set upon by one race or the other…….Well take a few minutes those of you that can to Remember Bernie Getz a gentleman who was set upon by a gang of black teenagers in a subway train in the 70′s and who took them out five if my mind serves me right. To many throughout the country. And definately New York he was a Hero. And in my mind one also….This is what happens when people become frustrated and have to live in fear.I for one have never lived in fear on the streets of NY because I know I will do what I have to. to walk away free of wounds, and with my pride as a man. Can You???? Bernie Getz had the right Idea.Teddy Roosevelt once said. “Walk tall and carry a big Stick!”

    • Bruce

      I’ve got 5 dollars for each of you….. bang bang bang bang bang and O yea BANG you get 2 more non-criminals need to carry, legally. Average citizen (who are willing and able) should be deputized and given a badge training and a gun, after he gets his concealed carry permit and take a oath to uphold the constitution and the laws of the land and uphold non-violence. And we would flood the street with volunteer deputized officers all capable of arresting violent people or thief’s.
      We could increase those who carry a badge by a factor of 10 or 20 if we did this without much cost (volunteers). Many “common citizens” are very capable of helping out in a emergency if they thought they were “allowed” to (not worried about being arrested for trying to uphold the law, or to stop violence). We need more neighborhood watches not less. We can not afford to pay enough police to actually make our land safe from violent people, this idea would help to fix the problem. Citizen police, see a terrorist? stop him you have a duty. See a violent crime in progress,,??? ACT!. The person that broke up this beating should have been deputized before this incident, and then he would be more use to prosecuting these violent dangerous evil filled criminals. HE SHOULD RECEIVE A REWARD FOR IS SERVICE BREAKING UP THIS MURDER OF A OLD MAN.

  • GrammaD

    This is exactly what “O” had in mind. Get “US” all fighting amongst eachother rather than UNITE and fight against his agenda.

    • castaway

      Believe me, there are still plenty of us to unite and fight against obama and his evil hoard. Forget the blacks,they have their own aggenda, and it does not include non blacks. They would like to have a return to “Planet of The Apes”.

      • Doc Sarvis

        And you can make this broad brush statement based on what?

      • steve

        THIS GOES TO DOC & CASTAWAY. ALL THE CRAP THAT’S FLOATING AROUND OUT THERE IS PROBABABLY BASED ON SNAP JUDGEMENT, FICTION, & BIAS !! RACE IS FOR THE SPEEDWAY NOT EVERYDAY LIFE ! NOBODY SEEMS TO HAVE ANY COMMON SENSE & RUNS THEIR MOUTH BASED ON THEIR OWN AGEND, NOT THOUGHT. BOTH SIDES HAD BEST CEASE THIS “CRAP” OR THE WHOLE NATION WILL DROWN IN IT’S BIGOTRY, AGENDA, POLITICAL CORRECTNES, ETC. i GUESS RACE SHOULD BE THE ISSUE WHEN A CONVENIENCE STORE CLERK IS MURDERED. LET YOUR BRAINS WORK A LONG TIME BEFORE YOUR MOUTHS DROWN YOU & EVERYONE AROUND YOU.

  • castaway

    I would like to know why this needs to be labled a “hate crime”, or racially motivated? It was a sensless attack on a 78 year old man, who was not bothering anyone. These teenagers need to be punished to the full extent, and no extra leniancy because they are children .

    • steve

      why do the politically correct, obama, ophra, jesse j. blacl panther’s bounty on zimmerman claim outrage “RACE”, “RACE”, “RACE” race is for the speedways !!! i have come to the conclusion my giving aid & comfort to people may depend on “RACE” SINCE ALL THIS CRAP HAS BEEN OVERBLOWN. I DO KNOW IF SOMEONE ATTACKS ME OR MINE, THEY WILL NOT LIKE THE OUTCOME (REGARDLESS OF RACE) !!!

      • The Resolute Voice

        Is this a hate crime? Potentially because they taunted him for being White. Should it be investigated as such? Absolutely. It should not be ignored. If the media can go after George Zimmerman for a hate crime and doctor 911 tapes to try and “prove” a racial intent , then why not these kids? They wanted to kill him because he was white, and when he mentioned Trayvon Martin in a respectable way, they attacked him further for it..

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  • ranger hall

    We all seem to look for Justice in all the wrong Places, You have bad people in all races, You have good people in all races. We need to get back to a simple form of justice and Punisment, The system we now have is not strong enought to deter crime. In my past i have had people tell me that Hell going to jail is not bad, 3 meals a day, clean beds, a gym, and you can learn from the other inmates about how to commit more crime,Make more money, beats working for a living.
    I have even had young people tell me Jail is better than being at home.
    Maybe we should go to the Laws and Punishment we had in the old days, One thing for sure our system does not deter Crime.
    People Stand Your Ground, Protect what is yours, No one else is going to do it for you
    This old boy should have carried protection, even a good tomahawk,My favorite.Well next to my 45.
    In all my years i have not HATED anyone, But i have killed to protect my life and property and the lifes and property.of others.
    Stand Your Ground, is the only way, considering our system does not alwats protect us.

  • William 1

    Find the six and go kill them-they deserve it-atacking a 78 year old man-sissies all and do not deserve to live!

    • Doc Sarvis

      Let’s try them in court and see all the evidence. Even from the article and posts here there is a lot of missing information.

      • castaway

        Correct,so they can get slap on the wrist and go free!

  • Deborah

    This is a great article; I hope its gets follow up. Hey if it was not hate or prejudice, what was it; did they rob him of his pork rinds? The statement “the law applies to all” is true, but what happens to the application of that law and who does the applying. Why is it that we do not get news on such “reverse” racism instances? Media prejudice, media prejudice. The very last sentence in the article sums it up.

    • Bruce

      IT IS NOT racism if you do it to a white person.
      Only if you do it to a minority.
      Good laws we got here in America don’t we????.

      • castaway

        Do like many of us are now doing, and call you representitives and tell them those laws need to be repealed. This nation will continure to sink with the weight of these laws.

  • The Resolute Voice

    We all need to start a civil rights campaign on this issue and contact the U.S. Attorney General’s office re this case. It was obviously a hate crime because Watts was white. These punks ( yes, that’s what they are ) shouted racial taunts at him as they beat him up. ( BTW, White IS a race) What if they had killed him? Probably the case would never have gotten any press then. – just one more person dead in the streets God bless the bystander who intervened. Now, let’s all do the same and get Mr. Watts some justice.

  • OneDamnAngryAmerican

    The guy was 78 years old! Yup, you kids gotta be proud of getting him. YOU ALL ARE SISSSIES AND LOSERS! I’m really glad (being sarcastic) that we have the “real leadership” in DC that this country needs. (Actually, the demokratick party has given the USofF-ingKKK the “leadership” we deserve!) I THINK ITS TIME FOR THE SUPREME COURT TO PRESS CHARGES AGAINST OUR DICTATOR AND SHOW THE WORLD THE TRUE MEANING OF OF DEMOCRACY, LEADERSHIP AND JUSTICE!

    • Bruce

      spot on

  • Len

    After reading everyone’s comments.. I have to say it all comes down to one thing.. Many of the idiots in this world want to take guns away from people. I think it should be LAW that all citizens must carry consealed weapons, and know how to use them. I know this was tried in a little town down south and burglaries dropped to zero!

  • Elizabeth

    I am a senior citizen. I carry a gun. Yes, I have had my life threatened by a black man because I was out of state and just happened to be from the South. I was 3 months pregnant. If I had had my gun then I would have blown his head off. I was not born racist nor was I raised to be racist but I am racist now. If you want to call it that. I believe there is a conspiracy in this country to keep racism alive. For what purpose I don’t know. Many people believe there will eventually be a race war. How can there not be? The people who are fueling this fire will get their way because I believe a lot of people are preparing for it. Think it can’t happen.

  • The Resolute Voice

    Totally agree. Just think what would have happened to these bullies in the Old West if this man had been packing. But then, they probably wouldn’t have bothered him in the first place. It’s never guns that kill people; it’s people. Just think if one student in this week’s CA school schooting had had a concealed carry gun. Lives would probably have been saved. Police can’t be everywhere, so people have to protect themselves and their families until the bullies learn to back off fo their ownr self-preservation.

    • castaway

      Most of the outlaws ended up on “Boothill”, or another place like it.

  • R G W

    I think we should all call DA and protest that he is not a hate-crime. It is time to stop this
    BS and charge them hate-crime and nothing less.

  • http://Google.com C. Baumgardner

    Where’s the prez indeed… Who do you think started this mess? Omam has an agenda and he’ll fulfill it anyway he can ; even by a racial war in this country. Kind of sounds familiar ;;;;;;;doesn’t it? And I was further surprised by the fact that there were white kids in the mix. Guess respect for our elderly, no matter what race; just flew out the window.
    And unfortunately now we have to deal with our paranoid governor who intends to gut the ;;;; stand your ground law;;; which would only add to the vulnerbility of those who are courageous enough to voice their opinions. Thanks a lot MSM and all our main stream media and our el presidente,,,,with friends like you we sure can expect the worst and be amazed by anything else.

  • R G W

    Call Chief Prosecutor of Toledo, Oh..
    Office: 419-245-1945
    Fax: 419-245-1083

    Tell them the hate-crime should be filed against those boys and nothing less..
    I tired to be pushed back in the corner when black against white, if white against black
    then the news will be on the front page and treated hate-crime, this is not right.

  • http://Google.com C. Baumgardner

    Yes;;;Len,,, as George Washington pointed out: A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government…………. To my idea he was a true patriot and one of the wisest presidents we ever had.
    .

  • Raggs

    I would like to know why it is OK for buckwheat to stomp someones head in while “cracker” has to run?
    To hell with running!

  • R G W

    Someone mention here, by August the riot will start and then declare marshall law. Now, there is a FEMA camp already been built for rebels.

  • Michel

    What is fair for one is fair for all. If it is a hate crime when black is beaten (or a gay), then it is a hate crime when it is a old white man. These boys should be treated as adults and punished to the full extent of the law. As far as the Martin case goes, that sounds like a bunch of bs made up by the lame stream media. Nothing like making up lies and reporting it as truth.

  • mike

    After spending much time reading every comment here. The Majority of the People feel outraged by this Senseless Beating of a 78 Yr old VET. in broad daylight by Six PUNKS. Only One Passerby Yelled at them to Stop. The Main Problem besides Cry’s of Racism,.,
    [1] He should NOT have said what he said to those PUNKS That only Triggered them to actions. [2] They were Already Out Looking for Trouble,,, To Fight ANYONE they could handle. [3] Main Problem is the Past 30 yrs the so called Progressives = Socialists have been in charge of the Dept. of Education, Boards of Education, School Systems across this country. Who have Stripped any Reference to God, Prayer, Ethics, Responsibility, Morals, and responsibility for their Actions from School Children and Refusing to Discipline Children in their Charge while at school. As well as Turning in Parents to the Police if they Disciplined the Kids at home. They much rather Drug up the Kids into Compliance Creating a Nation of Non Thinking Zombies, with no work ethic either and a Where’s my Check Benefit Mentality for Life. [4] Politicians have Taken the Family Life and compromised the Parental Responsibility making it a Crime to Discipline or even Yell at their Assine Children when they Desire It. Claiming doing so is Child Abuse. They have extended Social Workers into Family Life where they don’t use common sense first.[5] The Corporate Structure along with the Media and Politicians have Interfered with Family Life since WW 2 forcing Both Parents, it there are two, to work long hours, rotating shifts
    just to make a living to raise a family. Doing So has created spin off industries such as Day Care, After School Programs and Latch Key Kids who come home to an empty home.
    Up to WW 2 the Mothers stayed home to care for and raise the children while the husbands/ fathers worked during the day. Since I was born in 1950 my Day Care was my Mother, Aunts and Grandparents. Today, the family life is Not the Same. Too Many Divorces and Separated Families with no stability. The kids end up going to Progressive
    Guidance Councilors who recommend Kids be put on Controlled Drugs. There are Police in our Schools when years ago Teachers knew how to discipline class effectively. [6] The Entertainment Media with Porn, Violence, degrading human interaction pushed 24/7 on today’s youth dehumanize people constantly leaving them with a lack of respect or connection to others in society. When I went to school, there were no Guns in Class, Except when the Police visited for Bic Safety Programs or A K-9 Demo, There were No Drive By Shootings,No Drug Gangs, Gang Banger Mentality or Gang Rapes of Girls. [7] Everything Changed during the Vietnam War, The Political Village Idiots got in charge no thanks to the American Communist Party, Sal Alinski and Gus Hall who financed the SDS, the Weathermen Underground, The Black Panther Party with monies from the Soviet KGB and Revolutionary Training sponsored by Castro in Cuba. [8] I am a retired officer, investigator and USAF Officer, and have carried a sidearm on and off duty. I have had to defend myself, other officers and honest civilians over the years from Street Punks, Gang Mentality, Armed Robbers, Armed Thugs, Car Jackers, Rapists, Arsonists, etc.[10] I have also been a Victim of Crime, and Attempts by “Underclass Socialpathic Black Drug Users” who have walked up to me while I was minding my own business with the intent of Robbing me or commiting acts of Violence. My Response was Verbal,Followed by my S & W 9 MM Auto pulled from a conceiled holster. That Stopped Numbers Attempts. Just the mire Presence prevented me from getting knifed or assaulted. [11] AND Stopped Attempted Assaults on Others. I did get cut once while drawing down on an attempted Black Thug attempting to rape a white woman parked behind a service center on the Conn. Turnpike on Friday afternoon at rush hour. The gun to the head of the Thug with the hammer back gave Immediate Release of the intended victim.[12] Presence of a legal lawful licensed firearm on someone who is Trained is a necessity in order to reduce the increasing amount of random crime, shootings, muggings, assaults in this country. 80 % of Americans, White, Black, Hispanic,etc.are law Abiding, and feel the same way we do. It is the 20 % of Dependent Drug Users, Socialpathic Individuals who are the main problem along with Private Lobbyists Groups, Individuals and Corrupt Politicians who are Pushing the gap between groups of Citizens playing both sides against the middle. The Media must be held accountable for their Actions Fanning the Flames of Hatred and Allowing the Race Card to be Played. There is a hugh upward backlash against this Fla Story and thousands of people are arming themselves for their own defense, their families and not to mention the worry of total Chaos and Economic Meltdown coming into the election cycle in November and the so called End of the World Senero panic. ~ Mike in N.H.

  • Donald York

    Good for you Dallas. If there is a next time, ( I hope there is’nt) It would be a fitting thing to blow their little asses out of the water!

  • Bruce

    quoting from a different thread…..

    FreedomFighter says:
    March 16, 2012 at 9:58 am

    We are in a classic Marxist takeover, if we dont resist it, we Americans will be eventually killed off by the communists once they gain enough power. Its how it always happens, and how it will happen here.

    What did Stalin, Mao, PolPot do, purge huge parts of the population, with there private armies, Obama is building his now, its in the Health Care Bill

    We may have less than 6 months b4 civil war.

    Marxism in America

    http://www.morningstartv.com/oak-initiative/marxism-america

    when does this become treason?????
    please explain where the “line” is….

    • http://PersonalLiberty FEDUP

      Bruce, when I read your post it sent chills down my spine, I guess I hadn’t thought of that line of reasoning before. If that is indeed the intent of this administration, then we are going to need more than God’s hand to help us, we are going to need our neighbors NO MATTER WHAT COLOR THEIR SKIN IS, to join together and fight for each other. Wake up it is US against THEM (government) not blacks against whites, or asians against mexicans,. Rent the movie, “The Killing Fields” put you and your loved ones in that horrible situation of life and death, then ask yourself if skin color is important. Some of your comments scare the hell out of me, you mean to tell me if someone of a different skin color comes to your house begging for your protection for his family you are going to turn him away because he’s black? If that’s the case we are all doomed and after a short time under ground we are all going to be the same color, and then nobody is going to give a s..t!

      • Bruce

        earlier I made this comment

        “Eric thank you for speaking up. I would have your back in a war because I am against the slide to Marxism this country is on. I care not for the color of your skin, I care about your soul and what is in it”

        in that comment I said I WOULD HAVE his back (meaning I would defend him as he defended me.) (Eric identified as Black) so…..

        you mean to tell me if someone of a different skin color comes to your house begging for your protection for his family you are going to turn him away because he’s black?

        How do you get I would turn a non-violent Black person away? from that?
        I care not for the color of your skin……

      • castaway

        If you were to allow him into your house, you will probably be beaten, robbed, and then murdered. all for you dumbness, kindness or whatever you call it. This exact same thing has happend many times .

  • Tasunka Gleska

    Let’s see if the ACLU jumps in to defend this man. They are known for speaking out against hate crimes. We should anticipate a barrage of national outcry orchestrated by the ACLU on behalf of Mr. Dallas Watts.
    nothing more nothing less…YUP

  • Bimbam

    We must commit ourselves to a fair America and remove the black racist unfit and illegal president.
    He is causing the black racist to remove all whites off this land. Black racist our destroying this country.

    • Otto

      We whites still outnumber the negroes and more of us are armed.

      • castaway

        In addition, we are vastly more intelligent, and are thinkers.

  • Mitch

    The opening statement was that there were six youths, some were white and some were black.
    How does the charge of a hate crime based on the victim being white have any foundation?
    This is Al Sharpton in another face and in another place. They both are a disgrace.

  • C.W.A.

    “Toledo detectives on Wednesday, however, said that they do not believe the attack was racially motivated despite Watt’s allegations that the youths repeatedly made verbal references to his being white”

    How much more proof do we need that this “racially motivated” tag is nothing but another weapon to use against Caucasians? According to the slimy “officials,” it is never racially motivated if the attacker is a Negro, even when he screams racial epithets.

  • Otto

    Ob*ma is fueling the racial fires in this country. All white men must be armed after he steals this election with help from his friends in the Spanish company that is now going to count our votes!

    http://kleinonline.wnd.com/2012/01/18/obama-donor-scytl/

  • http://PersonalLiberty FEDUP

    Bruce, I was referring to the comment that according to the post says, quoting from a different thread, Freedom fighter says, We are in a classic Marxist takeover……what did Mao, Stalin, and PolPot do, purge huge parts of the population with their private armies”. that was what I was referring to. Part of my family survived the killing fields and when we arrived here we thought we would never have to go through that horror ever again. I am sorry for the misunderstanding Bruce. I did not read your post to Eric and was not attacking you on that point.

    • Bruce

      quote

      “that was what I was referring to. Part of my family survived the killing fields and when we arrived here we thought we would never have to go through that horror ever again. I am sorry for the misunderstanding Bruce. I did not read your post to Eric and was not attacking you on that point.”

      honor respect and caring go out to you for the experiences you went thru.
      Very hard for me to imagine what you and yours had to live thru.
      You have learned lessons you should share with everyone.
      I have experienced personal tragedy that shook my life to the foundations also. Probably not as much as you experience. Thru those experiences I changed quite a bit, and learned a lot about myself and my faults and limitations. I was accused of being the first person that my friend knew that would stop for someone with a sign that said I will work for food. I can create work….lol. for someone looking to get ahead by working, not just looking for a hand out.

      we thought we would never have to go through that horror ever again

      I very much also hope you will never have to go thru that again. I think here in the US it might be time for EVERYONE TOGETHER to stand up for their rights before that happens, and you sharing your story with others who have not experienced like you have, would be a very valuable public service for the sleeping in this country and good in general.
      May a hand of protection surround you.

    • The Resolute Voice

      I so respect those who survived terrible events overseas and came to this country and contributed. They are true patriots. It’s time for all of us who love this country and want the best for it and all its people to join together and fight for that dream and freedom again. That freedome use to let us create a dream and work to make it come true. The 80% need to get busy and join together to get the most important job this country has ever had to face done and done well.

      That means changing our govt and this administration and getting rid of regulations and taxes and changing educational philosophies so we can really educate our kids . We need to communicate every single day to anyone who will listen ( and some who won’t). We need to tell them what we are going to do and how we are going to do it and that we are going to DO IT NO MATTER WHO GETS IN OUR WAY, politicians and lawyers and bureaucrats especially.

      Let’s bring this country back to where we all know it can be because we’ve been there before. It’s time for an American rerun orchestred by the brave and the free – US! All of us no matter our race, culture, creed or background, education, family, disability, age or any other difference – no hyphenated Americans anymore – just Americans who love America and want to bring her back to where she should be and soon.

  • mark

    Well it definately shows that kids these days have no respect. If that old man was my dad.

  • harleyneil

    Im 70 yrs old and if any of these punks try to harm me they will meet mr. kimber face to face , and he’s only ’45′.

  • Smithkowitz

    I sure hope we don’t have a record setting summer heat wave across a lot of the country this year; if we do, it might be a loooooooong HOT Summer! Where’s the Republican Convention, Tampa Bay Florida; Oh n . . . . . . remember 68 in Chicago?

  • chuckb

    resolute, you say bring the country back to were it was!! well, my friend, in my opinion we were never in racial harmony in the first place.i don’t know of any black community where it is safe for a white person to walk thru or much less live, yet, we allow blacks to walk safely or live in most of the white communities, so there must be something we don’t understand, or blinded by our bleeding hearts.
    how much longer do we allow this to go on? do we wait until civil war breaks out or do we enforce laws and clamp down on the gangs in the ghetto. one thing they do respect is force. take one city at a time and clean out the gangs, throw them in a boot camp, teach them to respect the law. the ones that are incorrigible, ship them back to africa. cut off the welfare queens, the incubators, one of these queens produce fifteen more children than their white counterparts. this has been going on since the sixties. we either expect the black men to stand on their own two feet or take their welfare from them.. if you think the blacks are only twelve percent of the u.s. population , you better think again, your falling for the bolshevik count, i would think it more like thirty five percent or more. there are areas in some of the big cities the census takers are not allowed to enter because of the danger and they only estimate, the southern coast has been a haven for the blacks to illegally enter from the carribean, comparable to the mexican border this country is over run by illegals, black and latin and we are in the verge of civil war if we don’t stop it now. the bolsheviks won’t stop it, they live on the vote. california is a prime example and guess what california is flat broke and business is deserting it in droves. the president (if you want to call him that) is sympathetic since he is a brother and knows each one is a potential vote, so he will do little to stop this flow. bush and the rino’s were bleeding heart do gooders so they did little to hinder the invasion. we are in deep trouble and there will be blood shed before this is over
    .this martin shooting (apparently a good shooting) may trigger the beginning.

    • The Resolute Voice

      Believe it or not, some of us were in racial harmony as way back as when my Mom was young. There are good people of all races and that’s what I meant when I said we needed to go back to what we were. There was also a time when people of all races worked hard, tried to get educated and do better for their kids, were honest and helpful, and people could walk the streets without fear or trouble from anyone. My Mom when she was young living in NYC use to go up to 125th Street in Harlem on a Saturday night and see a movie or friends and then come home late on the subway all the way to Greenwich Village. No fear, no mugging, no trouble from anyone. When I was young living in Vermont, you never had to worry about locking your doors or your car or walking the dog late at night or walking home from work at night by yourself. You could leave your car unlocked uptown, your keys in the car and your wallet with money on the seat. No one would take it, and if No one would bother you, and if you were in trouble, someone was always there to help. That’s what I meant.

  • Paul

    This is the results of a racist black president. I guess these pieces of s–t teens listened to obuma and searched there sole, then these punks picked on a 78 yr old defenseless white man. This was a racist crime, where is sharpten, jackson, and obuma now.

  • The Resolute Voice

    Why is the only white man on a bus in Washington DC automatically a trouble maker because he’s scared of assault? That’s ridiculous. And why didn’t some of the blacks on that bus come to his aid when he was attacked? They should have There were enough of them to stop the assault or scare the perpetrators off. Race shouldn’t matter when you see someone being attacked. Go stop it! Otherwise, you are a party to the crime.

  • The Resolute Voice

    The real tragedy of the Trayvon Martin killing is that the two couldn’t just walk up and talk to each other about what was going on. Zimmerman had to be an assigned neighborhood watch commander because of a lot of break-ins in the gated community, and Trayvon couldn’t simply say he was visiting and had gone to the store. Zimmerman was forced to be suspicious, and Trayvon was forced to be argumentative and perhaps confrontational. These were the main triggers for what happened that night. ( of course, these presumptions are that both were acting in good faith at the time and not intending to cause trouble of any kind or profile, etc.) . Their lack of communication was the result of a basic lack of trust.

  • ranger hall

    One of the biggest things wrong with the People, Is Fear and seperation, In a Black community WHY is it that a few thugs can cause FEAR into the many, Same in a Mexican community, Same as in an Asian or Chinese community, Aso lets not forget the Biker Outlaws, And the mixed groups that hide under the Law. And believe me ive worked in them all. The main reason that this happens ad is not taken care of is the Powers to Be NEED these bad people to Justify their Being, They need crime to to inlarge the system,In other words they do not want to prevent crime. So people the Politicians and the Police and soon the Military DO not work for you.
    So we stand by and live with our Fears. As in combat if you do not fight to protect yourself YOU are dead.
    Stand your Ground Is for all the good People.

  • ranger hall

    Some time back in So.CAl,The adult bad guys realized that if they used KIDS to do the Crimes and payed them good money, they could do Bus. without going to jail. They trained kids that if you get caught You will not go to Jail, Do not Talk, just tell them what they want to hear and you will be back on the streets in a couple hours, These kids did everything from selling Drugs,robberys,stealing and even murder, and most never spent an hour in jail. and its still going on around the country.
    In my day if a minor commited a major or several small crimes they were sent to a reform school, i said a reform school and not a day care center as we do now.These days most of our young offenders NEVER see a Cell closed in their faces,Only in a room with what we call A >>> then they can go home. be out doing the same thing in several hours. So much for our System.
    We think that our system helps the Kids, Hell it makes it so much unworkable.
    When i was a kid a boy i knew stole a candy bar he was 12, he was sent to the station and after a good talking to he was placed in a Jail cell for an hour, This was called a thinking time, before his Parents were called. His parents Mom or dad had to sign for his release and to appear in court, When he was called and his Parent in front of the Judge, The Judge made it simple, you stole something that belonged to someone else, this is a crime,And you can be punished, but this is your first time i will give you this warning, If i see you in front of me in this court again you will be sent to the reformatory for 6 months, And to you Parents if you cannot handle this boy I might charge you with child neglect,If you cannot handle the Problem,I will do it for you. Well when t seen this boy the next day at school an asked what happened, he replied I sure dont want to go there again, I was afraid. An that razor strap my day gave me, i sure dont want that anymore To day the kids are not afraid of our system, Or the Parents.

    • Jake48

      Because today there is no “Or Else!” Kids in NYC get busted 8-10 times before they are ever sent away. 90% are from one parent homes(Female) On welfare and Guess What? There is no one watching the store. In Comparison Upstate New York. Kids are busted one maybe two times before I got them….They are largely from single parent homes with no male guidance. But the legal system upstate does no tolerate the misbehaviors of the Children.

  • George

    I think that things are taking a turn for the worst with the race issue and with the election of Obama. It has emboldened the more radical and violent amongst us. As a citizen of the Detroit metro area I am going to take my weapons carrying permit training. I agree with the statement, ” Better my sword rusts in it’s sheath, than to not have it.” And I am for the first time, going to arm myself in public. Our law enforcement is failing, except at writing cash collecting traffic tickets for minor offenses, our liberal politicians have removed discipline from our homes and schools, and we have created a very un-civil society. Pay-trines at our local theater were shouted down by 4 black teen girls with the foulest mouths and grossly inflated, imagined, physical prowess the other night. I could have easily sent them to the dentist for reconstruction. I of-course choose not to. How pathetic on my part. But would they follow us home, drive by, shooting into our house? Such are the times we live in. I should say though, that the local black on black violence is ever increasing far beyond the violence increase in the less urban towns. An elderly Blackman was beaten at a gas pump so bad his leg broke. Left there without help, no aid cars coming to the seen. Another citizen of Detroit helped the man to the hospital. No police either. Must of been writing traffic tickets. Our politicians, police and teachers are failing us. Our civilization is in decline. Got to love what the progressive liberals have done to improve things. Oh, and lets not forget the liberals want to disarm us too. That ought to help curb violence.

  • http://www.peoplepc.com Kenneth Hasson

    I must live in another world There are 539 people in Washington controlling the lives of 308 million people. I get E-mails and articles about :The New World Order” every day. So many articles have “A” point. Let’s get to “THE” point. “THE” point. Thanks to the 539, our Constitution has been destroyed and our country is bankrupt. The President, Congress and THE Federal Reserve Bank have destroyed THE UNITED STATES. All of them profess that they are trying to save The UNITED STATES when they put us where we are in the first place. Remember the quote: “UNITED WE STAND,DIVIDED WE FALL” They have succeded in Dividing us. It’s time, we unite and demand that we return to a Constitutional Government. It’s Time we demand a balanced budget. Bombard them with E-mails, faxes, letters, telephone calls,Signs on you car,signs in you yard. I believe that “WE THE PEOPLE” outnumber the VALUE DESTROYERS. RAISE HELL,RAISE YOUR FLAG,SIMPLY IGNORE UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS. IGNORE People that are dividing the RACES. ALL OF THESE ACTIONS CAN BE DONE WITHOUT Leaving the comfort of your home.

    • The Resolute Voice

      Amen and Amen again. Let’s all do it!

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  • http://gci.com Pat McAree

    Look folks this is all bull I feel sorry for the old fella I also feel sorry for Martinj and Zimmerman. All three are used to enhance the profit of a few network mogals. Or more importantly to keep your mind off who is really running this country. Prostution is alive and well in Washington DC Big business is the customers, the Lobbyests are the pimps and I am sure we all know who are the whores. Need I say more…

  • http://yahoo yvonne

    Lord, please, bring your kids home now. we are so exhausted from living in this world.

  • An old guy

    Divide and conquer! It seems to me that if the Feds can keep the races against each other they can slide in their crooked agenda by us all while we are distracted. I believe that every time the races seem to be uniting the feds stir it up again.
    And it is true that a white person CANNOT claim racism, I’ve seen in the past whare a white soldier claimed prejudice from a black sargeant and was actually laughed at by authorities and told “you can’t do that, you’re white.”DIVIDE AND COMQUER.
    One of the reasons behind the second amendment was written was to protect us FROM OUR GOVERNMENT!

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  • Dad

    There might be a lesson here… you have to teach children to hate.

    • The Resolute Voice

      There’s a famous song from the musical South Pacific called “Carefully Taught”. Check it out. It’s about children only hate when they’re taught to hate. James Michener wrote South Pacific and when it was going to Broadway the first time, the producers wanted to remove this song because they viewed as too controversial. Michener said if they did, he’d pull the show. That’s how important the song was to what he wanted to say about prejudice.

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        remember Michener wrote the book not the music, however Oscar Hammerstein and Michener were involved with Pearl Buck – and as a result have children and or grandchildren that were adopted through her agency that took care of the mixed race children

        • The Resolute Voice

          Michener did write the book, but he also was involved in the writing of the stage play. That’s why he had the authority to pull the musical if the song didn’t remain. My grandmother’s first cousin was a close friend of Pearl Buck’s and very involved in education in both China and India her whole life.

        • The Resolute Voice

          Just so everyone can ponder these lyrics and their sad meaning still today, here they are:
          (Perhaps a pop singer should re-record the song for a new release?)

          “You’ve Got To Be Carefully Taught”

          You’ve got to be taught
          To hate and fear,
          You’ve got to be taught
          From year to year,
          It’s got to be drummed
          In your dear little ear
          You’ve got to be carefully taught.

          You’ve got to be taught to be afraid
          Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
          And people whose skin is a diff’rent shade,
          You’ve got to be carefully taught.

          You’ve got to be taught before it’s too late,
          Before you are six or seven or eight,
          To hate all the people your relatives hate,
          You’ve got to be carefully taught!

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        There was a wonderful show a week or two ago that discussed the whole story of South Pacific and it was fascinating to hear from the adopted kids of those involved. Lucky kids. Pearl Buck was an interesting woman – I remember watching many interviews of her in my youth.

  • Robert

    Where is Obama when this is goining on? He president say something to American people but he didn’t. If he re-elected this coming November, this country will be divided and maybe revolution.

  • Yah

    string them up. bloody cowards.

  • James

    This is classic evidence that only white men can commit ‘hate’ crimes. When other races do it, they are just getting even.

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