‘Voting The Bums Out’ A Failed Strategy

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I’ve got some news for you.

There is absolutely nothing from the Founding Fathers — and I mean nothing — in which they said your No. 1 course of action in response to massive, repeated Constitutional violations should be to “vote the bums out.”

They never said that. Nowhere. Ever.

For some reason, though, opponents of endless Federal power seem to pull the “vote the bums out” card first. And a vast majority of them seem to have just that one card — and no others.

Wherever I speak around the country, voting the bums out is the first thing people tell me needs to be done to fix problems created by the Federal government. People everywhere back this up with their money. The 2012 elections saw about $6 billion spent.

Six billion dollars. Anyone who complains about how Congress spends money should be appalled at this utter waste of resources.

When Congress spends hundreds of dollars on a toilet seat, at least they get something to sit on.

When you spend your hard-earned money on Federal candidates who are going to reduce the size and scope of the Federal government, you get nothing. Zilch.

“Government today is bigger and more unConstitutional than it was before the last election.”

If you could travel through time, you could make that statement in any of the past 100 years and you’d almost never be wrong.

“Voting the bums out” has proven to be a complete and utter failure as a strategy.

Neighborhood Dining

Some people will tell you that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

While I doubt that people spending their hard-earned money on this proven failure are insane, there’s certainly something to be said here.

Let’s say you have a new restaurant open in your neighborhood. You give it a try; they treat you rudely and don’t even give you what you ordered. They serve you something completely different and refuse to fix it. After talking with your neighbors, you learn that every one of them had the same experience there.

You probably wouldn’t give them your money again, would you?

Well, maybe the owners want to give it another try. They hire a new manager, walk around the neighborhood, door-to-door, apologizing for the horrible treatment and making great promises about service, better prices and higher quality.

OK, you think, time to give these people another chance; they’re human, after all.

The second time you go there, it’s worse.

Again, they bring you food you never ordered and refuse to correct the mistake. They spill food on your clothes and then force you to pay them to clean it. And after you leave, they double-charge your credit card, too.

I can guarantee that even if you got to the second try, there would never be a third.

Congressional Appetite

But for some odd reason, even though each and every one of us deals with this kind of treatment (well, much worse, actually) from the Federal government, there’s more than a second try or even a third. Way more.

After watching government grow every year for our entire life, millions of us pour our hearts, souls and money into the next person who promises to fix things.

These bums, and the new bums who replace them once in a while, have an insatiable appetite for money and power. They often sound like underdogs, make wonderful promises about all the good they’ll do, and they never have enough of your money.

Occasionally, you get someone who’s the real deal. He is an honest person. He will work hard to do the right thing. And he will do everything he can to move the Federal government closer to the Constitution.

Even when a few good people get elected, they fail.

Here’s the hard truth. It doesn’t matter what political party is in power in Washington, D.C., or what person is in charge in the White House; Federal power always grows and your liberty is always less. This is how things have gone for at least 100 years.

The Recipe

Even though government schools will never teach you how to limit government power, the Founders did, in fact, offer solutions.

No, there’s no silver bullet. No one’s riding in on a white horse to save you in the way people view Presidential candidates. And, no, those unaccountable, politically connected lawyers who make up the Supreme Court aren’t going to fix things either. They work for the organization that’s violating your rights more than any in the world: the Federal government. They’re part of the problem, too.

James Madison, generally regarded as the “father of the Constitution,” was pretty direct about what should be done. He wrote the following in Federalist No. 46:

Should an unwarrantable measure of the federal government be unpopular in particular States, which would seldom fail to be the case, or even a warrantable measure be so, which may sometimes be the case, the means of opposition to it are powerful and at hand. The disquietude of the people; their repugnance and, perhaps refusal to cooperate with officers of the Union, the frowns of the executive magistracy of the State; the embarrassment created by legislative devices, which would often be added on such occasions, would oppose, in any State, very serious impediments; and were the sentiments of several adjoining States happen to be in Union, would present obstructions which the federal government would hardly be willing to encounter.

James Madison said that when the Federal government passes an unConstitutional measure — or even if it passes something that’s totally Constitutional, but still unpopular — there are ways to successfully resist it.

Notice that Madison didn’t mention a single thing about elections or voting bums out.

Nothing.

He did, however, point to methods which are “powerful and at hand.” Two prominent examples that you should be doing today:

“Refusal to cooperate with officers of the Union.”

Use “legislative devices” to create “very serious impediments.”

Madison also told us that if several adjoining States would do the same, it would make things extremely difficult for the Feds to deal with.

Judge Andrew Napolitano has said virtually the same recently, that a State refusing to comply would make Federal laws “nearly impossible to enforce.”

I happen to agree.

What Now?

We’ve all got extremely limited time, resources and money. It’s important to try to have the biggest bang for the buck when it comes to the Constitution and your liberty.

Let’s say, for example, you have one hour a week to dedicate to an effort and $100 a year to donate.

If you’re knocking on doors trying to help someone win a congressional primary race, or if you’ve donated your $100 to a 2016 Presidential candidate, you’ve already lost.

Instead, you could dedicate one hour per week to following Madison’s advice. You could work to advance legislation in your State, county, city or town that would, by law, require a “refusal to cooperate with officers of the Union” on a specific issue, as Madison advised.

Stop pouring your time and money into the siren song of Federal election campaigns. Voting the bums out is a failed strategy.

If your goal is the Constitution, it’s high time that you started following Madison’s advice on how to get there.

Your country needs you. Your community needs you. Your family needs you. Liberty needs you. The time to act is now.

–Michael Boldin

Michael Boldin

is the founder and executive director of the Tenth Amendment Center. Michael has a full schedule working as senior editor of the Center's website, writes a regular column, fields media interviews, and travels the country (when invited, of course) to speak to crowds about sticking to the Constitution — every issue, every time, no exceptions, no excuses.[send him email]

  • independent thinker

    Have we ever truly voted the bums out? Sure a new face shows up once in a while but by the time they learn the ropes they have become poluted by those they have to work with. To have a vote the bums out moment we would have to have a MASSIVE replacement of incumbents (at least 2/3s) although there is no guarentee even that would work.

    • vicki

      And with the dirt the NSA has collected all but saints would likely cave to the blackmail

      • Don

        Listen to Mark Levin. He has a better answer. The states have the right to amend the constitution.

        • Vigilant

          I have seen internet mail referring to a Constitutional Convention, and I am VERY leery about it. Proponents seem to think that’s the answer to reclaiming the promises of the Constitution, but I say, “be careful what you wish for.”

          Given the socialist-encouraged entitlement and big government mentality, what makes us think that a new or amended Constitution wouldn’t accomplish just the opposite? States’ conventions in places like California, Massachusetts and the People’s Republic of New York would be largely populated with progressive idiots.
          Proposed amendments coming out of those states and many more, would destroy the very foundation of our Constitutional Republic.

          Given that the majority of low information and programmed voters has already signaled that it prefers socialism, I hold out little hope that changes to the Constitution would be improvements.

          • Don

            It’s not a constitutional convention it is an amendment convention. Very different. Listen to Mark Levin.

          • Vigilant

            I respect Mark Levin to a high degree.

            But by the same reasoning, how do you have a state amendment convention for Conservatives only? You can’t bar the door to progressive wackos, can you?

          • Don

            three fourths of the states have to approve it. Listen to Mark. He is fixing to answer all our questions. I have been listening to him everynite for the last decade. He has the most sensible answer to our country’s problems. When in doubt turn to our constitution. It has the answer. It was written by great men with great foresite.

          • smilee

            and great compromise

          • Vigilant

            Precisely my point. Take a gander at the 2012 election results. 25 states voted for Obama and 25 for Romney. If Mark “is fixing to answer all the questions,” have him answer this one: how do you achieve 75% of the states voting for Conservative (i.e., Constitutional) measures to amend?

          • Don

            that means we are already 50% there. Blue states already beginning to fall. I suggest you listen to Mark and ask him.

          • Vigilant

            The day this country becomes 75% Conservative, given the recent voting trends, is the day I’ll celebrate with you and Mr. Levin. I would certainly wish it to be true, but life experience of 66 years tells me otherwise.

          • Don

            I’m right on your back door. Watching my kids and the way they are raising my grandkids still gives me hope. Listening to Mark helps also.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            It was written by men with great foresight, but the problem is we have men reading it who have no comprehension.

        • smilee

          Yes, but dream on silly as it will never happen

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          That would be dangerous, indeed, given such a largely Propagandized citizenry. We need to educate people to the concepts and reality of Freedom before attempting such a thing.

    • Barbara Johnson

      I agree. We vote out the bums, by electing new bums to take their place.

    • txbadonetoo

      Vote for more Ted Cruz’s and more Rand Pauls (even if you don’t like some of their style they do stand up for what the founding fathers would support) unlike the majority of Congress.
      I just don’t buy into this ‘don’t vote out idiots in Congress’ concept.

      • CSN

        If you don’t vote out the idiots, you’ll lose your point, but voting alone is not going to cut it. I agree with the author…we need to go deeper and make a more lasting impression. Mass Protest!

        • Keith Luxton

          With you on that!

          • smilee

            Believe it or not I am too!!

      • Keith Luxton

        I thought Rand Paul was supporting Amnesty which gives 30 million extra demoncrap votes. That is supporting us?

        • smilee

          Far right wingers call it amnesty but it is not them is just their lies.

        • smilee

          Far right wingers call it amnesty but it is not them is just their lies.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Ebonics?
            Could you speak English, Sleepee?

          • smilee

            What’s your problem today! Your comprehension at an all time low… IT IS ENGLISH silly!!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Sleepee says — “Your comprehension at an all time low”.
            No verb?
            Sleepee says — “but it is not them is just their lies”.
            What’s the subject for the second “is”?
            Are you burning your fingers with that roach?
            Or is English your second language, Sleepee?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Nice grammar. Public School?

      • smilee

        They have no clue what the founding fathers were about and neither do you it seems

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          For those who want to get a clue:
          http://mises.org/books/conceived4.pdf

          Hint: Sleepee doesn’t have one.

        • txbadonetoo

          Smilee can you elaborate a bit vs. just insult?

          • smilee

            Sure, If stating the truth to you is insulting then I guess it is but i did not insult just stated the truth based on these persons words which suggest strongly that my words are true.

          • txbadonetoo

            “These persons words?” WTH are you talking about? Which person or people and which words?

          • smilee

            Your words and mine that followed in your response to independent thinker above. If that does not answer your question forget it

          • txbadonetoo

            Smilee – you’d make a great politician.. You type yet say nothing of substance or which make any sense. Enjoy your own little world.

          • smilee

            You are totally lacking in any ability to comprehend anything intelligent or of substance so that is why it all went over your head

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You lack substance, Sleepee. You are irrelevant.

          • smilee

            Davey has run of words and sunk to this level of illuminating his true self

    • CSN

      Congress has the power to defund Obamacare, and do a host of political strategies which they NEVER DO, because we have a RINO for Speaker of the House, John Boner, and believe me, nothing is going to get done. John Boehner is Obama’s Water Boy….if you can’t get out this speaker, nothing is going to work…he needs to go…why do we tolerate this drivel and not spark an insurrection of sorts, at least a Mass Protest.

      • Vigilant

        In the case of Obamacare, you’re blaming the wrong person. The House has voted over three dozen times to defund all or part of Obamacare. Boehner did his part.

        It’s the Senate at which you need to point your focus. Reid won’t allow it to come to vote, and it would fail if it were put up for vote there.

        • smilee

          You finally got something right! Congratulation

      • smilee

        Even if they could get such a bill to the presidents desk which will not happen he will veto it so they do not have that power now. His water boy?????? he engineered the repeal of ACA 39 times boy with friends like that who needs enemies. Such silly talk.

  • txbadonetoo

    Since when has Obama or his Congressional cronies EVER listened to states? Personally I’m voting some Bums OUT in 2014 as they need to go – Congress was never meant to be a retirement home – aka look around at some of those 30 – 40 year hanger-ons. It never hurts to have multiple plans of action. Some Sr. members of Congress need to go.. regardless of what States decide to do.

    Personally I think Boldin has lost his mind with this article.

    • crg7

      It’s ridiculous to think that you can vote away your problems. You’re livin’ in a dreamworld, buddy! You’re merely parroting mainstream propaganda.

      • txbadonetoo

        I’m not voting away ‘my’ problems – I’m voting away those who refuse to support the oath they took to uphold the US Constitution. Life is clear and simple to me when it comes to this topic.
        And if you think I’m living in a dream-world let me remind you of 2010 when the Congressional House of Representatives had it biggest whooping in ages and many who promised to uphold that oath were elected to replace those who clearly didn’t. It’s time for another one (via votes) as no all Congress people are living up to their pledge to uphold the US Constitution.

        • Keith Luxton

          Trouble is some of those voted in in 2010 are starting to follow the DC Code (District of Corruption Code)

          • smilee

            They are still the same idiots they were in 2010. Banging their heads against the wall is what they have done in repealing ACA 39 times and failed to do so every time. They spend no time or energy on solving real problems that they could solve and leave those alone that they cannot have any effect on.

      • smilee

        AND YOUR SUGGESTION??????

  • Notrump22

    It seems as soon as they get elected and spend some time in DC “learning the ropes” they get that entitlement syndrome. Not all, but certainly some of them intend to make it their lifes work, with all the benefits, and who can blame them? They have a very sweet deal including a much better health insurance, retiremnet, etc. than us commoners can buy. They are NOT subject to Obama Care like us peons. It stinks and we the people can change it if we have the collective will.

    • SuperV

      Well stated Notrump22 and a very sound (recommended) solution. Unfortunately, and regrettably, we, the people, don’t have the “collective will.” The vast majority of them are so busy fighting among themselves against others who have no power and don’t have a single clue how the few liberties and rights they used to possess have rapidly eroded. Those that were, are no longer longer FREE THINKERS, having succumbed to the media which is run by the “politicians”!

  • notagain

    Unfortunately politicians are all the same with the same agenda, so it matters not whom one votes for. They are of the same ilk and that is why they are politicians in the first place. The politicians eat steaks and the slaves starve. That is the way it has always been and always will be. Sorry to ruin your day, but they have you by the short and curlies, so if you can’t lick em, join em! That is what the connected do.

  • Reddy Martin

    This article makes some pretty good points; but there are some concepts that need to be in place to really get positive results. 1) Attend monthly meetings at FairTax…it already has sponsorship in House (HR-25…Ways/Means committee), but needs people contacting reps & Senators to co-sponsor before it goes to a viable vote. Attending the meetings allows you to ask challenging/burning questions (FairTax has so many advantages, it seems too good to be true…so good, in fact that special interests don’t want you to have it.) Find out about the prebate program: Americans get over $220/mo to cover necessities; PLUS, the spouse in that household gets an additional, same amount/per mo; PLUS, each dependent child in that household gets over $75/mo.; couple that with the fact that Fed payroll deductions disappear: you get your whole paycheck; couple that with the fact that prices go down (hidden taxes disappear); you pay a 23% sales tax, which is still cheaper than current pricing….PLUS, used items are exempt from that tax (includes big-ticket items like houses, cars, major appliances, etc)…helps the less-fortunate, & encourages re-cycling.
    Possible because of 1) larger tax base; 2) IRS (a bloated, wasteful, oppressive bureaucracy) is removed via repeal of 16th Amendment (mandated, permanently in HR-25). 3) Taxes are collected by the individual states, & turned in monthly to the Fed…very efficient, very inexpensive. The 2nd thing: Join Tea Party, they are serious about politicians following the Constitution…they have already recalled Republican electees for not delivering on campaign promises; & too distrustful of Dems. Some other concepts: English only; abolish the UN; repeal the 17th Amendment; support Right-to-work; abolish govt labor-unions: Govt employees already earn more that private sector people, & get cushy bonuses & perks, as well.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      It doesn’t matter how they tax us. What does matter is how much they spend.
      First you need to understand that paper money is not Wealth. Wealth is the things that paper money buys — Goods and Services.
      Then know that Government does not Produce, it Consumes that Wealth. When they consume the Wealth, there is less of it to be acquired by the Real Producers, so there is less incentive for the Real Producers to be Productive. Thus the amount of Goods and Services decreases and the Real Economy suffers.
      Yes, the Fair Tax is better than the draconian Income Tax, in the sense of less brain-drain for the average citizen, but not for the businesses who get stuck with the Tax Collection Duties.
      Those who are enamored with the Fair Tax should read this:
      http://mises.org/daily/3389
      Those who think the Fair Tax will replace the Income Tax should read this:
      http://www.fairtax.org/PDF/WhichComesFirst.pdf
      I believe the Fair Tax is a Trojan Horse scheme to saddle us with both a consumption tax and an income tax like they have in Europe.

    • Reddy Martin

      The reasons that prices will lower is based on 1) Hidden taxes (which we pay, currently @ an average rate of 22%) are removed from the overhead the merchant pays. 2) Competition sets in very quickly, as WalMart already understands, thus lowering those prices to a more base level. Example: $1000 worth of taxable merchandise is lowered 22%= $780; then the 23% FairTax is imposed on $780 (not $1000)=$959.40; thus saving $40.60 per $1000 spent under today’s system. That is just on new goods; used items are tax exempt (this makes goods more accessible to those of lesser net-worth); because of the deletion of the withholding taxes, more $ goes into the economy. The prebate increases that circulation even more, making a much bigger ‘pie’ which means more competition enters the marketplace, keeping the prices lower, & thus offers more job opportunities in the process, including better paying jobs, as well. Remember also that imports are subject to the FairTax, which also go into the national treasury; as well as the broader tax base (everyone who consumes new goods, including non-citizens, who are not eligible for the Prebate (those incarcerated are also ineligible for the prebate). The used-goods exemption also encourages (naturally) recycling; & recycling industries.
      One other thing: As the system becomes more successful, the poverty level rises; thus, so do the prebates.
      Other part of the text: Double taxation…It is mandated that the IRS & Income taxes are repealed permanently, by law. The exemption for used goods is based on the idea that those items have already been taxed when they were new, & therefore will not be ‘double-taxed’ (again). (I don’t know where he gets that 30% tax rate, that sounds like one of the falsehoods spread by the above cited opponents).

    • Reddy Martin

      I don’t particularly like the idea of ‘Fair’ in any context regarding Govt & politics because fairness is not an absolute concept…it simply does not exist, as it doesn’t exist in any other segment of life…it is a subjective term used to manipulate voters.
      FairTax is indeed non-partisan, as it has elements proffered by Environmentalists & the business community, as well; it favors the less fortunate, & also those more affluent, thus taking a step toward eliminating poverty, increasing job availability, & putting more $ into circulation (aiding the economy). Note: Most wealthy people buy new goods as a fashion statement, since they can easily afford them.
      FairTax is not revenue-neutral anymore (since the Boortz books had been published)…it is revenue positive, according to the economists who measure these criteria on a regular basis…this can be researched.
      Anything else can be answered by Larry Walters of Orlando, a numbers cruncher advocate of FairTax. Bottom line: It’s YOUR money!

  • jimmie smith

    My concern is the “bums” will dismantle the 10th amendment thus making the above article moot. It’s just a matter of time?…What we need is a balance, protecting the constitution and a “vote the bums out” policy.

    • Vigilant

      The 10th has been effectively dead for some time now.

      • smilee

        It is working fine as intended but we know you do not like its intention or understand it..

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          We know that it’s time for your nap, Sleepee.

          • smilee

            Why don;t you address by point of view??? It is because you know my point is correct and heaven forbid you get caught telling the truth,, it would destroy your reputation as a fool

        • Vigilant

          “[I] do not like its intention?” You’ve gone completely off your rocker, cretin. I fully respect the 10th Amendment.

          If you erroneously disparage me for not supporting the 10th, then you must logically support it yourself. Too bad your “general welfare” comments completely contradict any support you claim for the 10th.

          • smilee

            You like and respect your interpretation of it not the real interpretation which is very different and the court has defined general welfare different that what you claim it to be so that statement of yours is plain nonsense. The tenth does not apply here despite your BS to say it does

          • Vigilant

            The 10th DIRECTLY applies. See my comment to you elsewhere.

          • smilee

            The tenth only applies if powers are not denied them and/or the powers are delegated to the federal government which it does here, What part of Congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes for the general welfare do you not understands and why do you continually and repeatedly ignore the courts decision saying exactly that the tenth does not apply here, you ignore that and cite other things that are not relevant.

          • Vigilant

            The court has indeed defined the general welfare clause and it has found it very much in contradiction to your blatherings.

            My God, where in the blue blazes do you get your chronically wrong “information?”

          • smilee

            WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM??? The court last year defined Obamacare as general welfare and you totally ignore that fact and again you lie about it and say the court said something it did not say, this decision totally refutes what you are saying. I told you i got it from the Constitution and the courts decision which agrees with me not you as the court has spoken, so please quit calling them liars.

  • Stuart Shepherd

    OR, you could buy (and register) or legally make a gun for your own private non-transferrable possession (also legal, but subject to local law as to what TYPE it is), “network” with like-minded patriots locally, do what you can to save money and assets in a form that will be of value after the collapse (“barterable” items are possibly best, store supplies and food to last for the immediate crash period, and use these “powerful and at hand” means to form a new regional nation (“several continuous states”) once the US becomes Detroit itself. The Constitution is, indeed, a “bottoms up” document and yes, it is a waste of time and money to support a “top down” one. Your gun is your vote in an unconstitutional, totalitarian state like we almost completely have. Don’t forget to vote.

    • mark

      Right, when the whole society and global economy collapses, then you guys will have it made. Can’t wait for that happy day, right Stuart? It will be better than living now with electricity, running water, a functioning (though weak) economy, schools, police and fire, highways and bridges, supermarkets full of food, stores full of goods and clothing. But who wants all that when it comes along with this awful tyranny? No, we and our children, our older relatives are all better off without the above-mentioned social infrastructure built up by generations of our ancestors to make life more efficient and comfortable. No, you’re right, we are better off living in caves or in tents in the hills. As long as we have our guns and our bibles, we’ll be OK. Can’t wait for that Happy Collapse. Anything is better than life under a Democratic president who wants to give poor and working class people health care. That monster!

      • Larry Christopher

        Sure Mark…we are on the verge of having a government so big that it will decide which electric grids should be on (to help the environment) and which should be off. This huge government can’r sustain itself. You seem to think you are intelligent…where will the money to keep running this country come from? My God! Can’t you even have one intelligent thought on your own without trying to read them from the Communist Manifesto? At this point, it’s the DEMOCRATIC president and the Liberal / Socialist / Communist / Progressive cheerleaders like you that will not be happy until this country collapses. By the way…if you would do some research, you will see that Obamacare will make far more people LOSE health benefits than it will supposedly help…and the cost is increasing daily…yet it hasn’t been implemented yet. Barry doesn’t give a damn about you or the “poor and working class”…and yes…you are right…he is a monster of the worst kind!

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        It takes time for Socialism to deplete the wealth of a country. But make no mistake, it is coming.
        Anybody got a light?

      • Barack Embalmer

        And don’t forget the prez is going to singlehandedly stop global warming (a hoax) with a carbon tax and save the world! That’s after he parts the red sea.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Obama isn’t giving anybody anything. The taxpayers are, against their will.
        You and your ilk are just criminals, mark, with a very large gang. That is all:
        http://mises.org/daily/4125

  • mark

    Right, voting is a waste of time especially when the guys you don’t like keep winning the elections – or not doing exactly what you want when they get in there. Great advice, Mr. Boldin. So obstruct federal law instead or launch an armed revolution? This is tough to do when only a small percentage of people feel the way you do, Mr. Boldin. You and your followers are a small minority outside the mainstream, and extremists such as yourself rarely get what they want in a democratic republic. Learn to live with it. Or leave. But you can get some satisfaction writing vicious hate-filled rants on various blogs that castigate those who disagree with you as traitors, communists, Muslims; screaming at your t.v. set; yelling at people in the street who foolishly vote and participate in our democratic republic (they are, after all, all dupes or worse, traitors), or better yet finding a way to make money off the politically frustrated through gun sales, survivalist food and equipment, and all-natural health cures. There is some money to be made there. But I think people on the right should follow your advice. All you conservatives and libertarians out there, stop voting. You think you don’t like our government now? Wait until it is 435-0 Democrats in the House, 100-0 Democrats in the Senate, and 9-0 Liberals on the Supreme Court. Yes, go ahead, follow Mr. Boldin’s sage advice and stop voting and contributing to political campaigns.

    • Vigilant

      No one’s talking about armed revolution, mark. As I write this, there have been 14 comments made to Mr. Boldin’s article, and not one (including Mr. Boldin) has mentioned the buzzword: NULLIFICATION.

      THAT’S what he’s talking about. And that is where this discussion should be headed.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      mark says — “voting is a waste of time especially when the guys you don’t like keep winning the elections – or not doing exactly what you want when they get in there”.

      That’s the problem with Big Government — half of the people are pissed off, no matter which major Political Party is in charge. One size does not fit all, and NEVER will. Leaders don’t care if you’re happy or not, as long as they have their Power and Perks. If we ever want Peace again, we must downsize this Government dramatically, and let people dictate their own futures voluntarily.

  • CSN

    Why don’t we pull an Egypt and go in Mass Protest to D.C…..Millions to get the bums out would help.

    • Keith Luxton

      They would hear we were coming and go to their country homes so the noise did not disturb them.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        LOL.

    • Doc Sarvis

      About 50% of the mass want one half of the bums out and the other 50% want the other half of the bums out.

      • Vigilant

        And they’re both right.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      The problem with that, CSN, is that as long as there are so many Propagandized people in the country, some other psychopathic Leader would take over and we’d still be in a mess.
      http://www.whale.to/b/callahan1.html
      Until the majority of people have shed their Propaganda Blinders, we will be floundering.
      Here is a list of Freedom-Loving sites:
      http://www.humblelibertarian.com/2009/03/top-100-libertarian-blogs-and-websites.html

    • BALONEY TONEY MAHONEY

      Yeah, let the pentagon push them out & TAKE OVER , that’s a wonderful idea!!! SHEESH!!

  • Bernard Forand

    Nothing new on the economic front with the Left as they pursue to address the price of inequality. Since the days of F.D.R. and his economic advisor {Eccles} who was the first to officially declare that the dynamo of democracies is its middle class. Through the Clintons with his O’Neal and now with Obama with his Bernstein economic advisor have each had the greatest growth rates through securing the strengths from this dynamo of consumers fluid monetary movements, self reinforcing a constant demand for increasing productivity.
    Conservatives have constantly have and continue to this day with Austerity policies, that siphons the laborer’s productivity to a small majority of the populace. Decreasing the fluid consumer to stimulate additional productivity.
    Hoarding the wealth and not returning it to the free markets to stimulate productivity, resulting in Aristocratic scenarios.
    Presently our position on inequality approaches the African, and Latin America dictatorship.
    Sovereignties are graded on their inequality as it will determine their credit on the Free Markets. Its called the Gini Coefficient. Grading scale is 0 to 1. From 0 being pure equality to 1 being pure inequality. A small sampling example; Nations such as Germany, Norway and Sweden have a Gini of .3 or less.
    South Africa and Latin America have a .5 or above.
    USA’s Gini in 1980 was .4 Presently it is at 4.7. This is according to the U.N.’s data. Rendering the USA in the category of nations such as Iran and Turkey.Conservative continue policies that advance inequality which very soon will return us the serfdom in a multiple fragmented nation with puppet dictators. Further seeking fragmenting any union proposals and its demise.
    Obama champions for the middle class will not be enough with a mere 8 years of effort to turn around the conservative damage of 8 decades. In the wings we do have additional potential democratic candidates that can continue to reduce the out of control inequality increases, sought by the republicans. Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren just to name a couple that have proven records, to their allegiance to strengthening the middle class dynamo.
    Republican on the other hand have the infamous honor to exhibit their 1929 Great Depression and their 2008 Great Recession. They do say, the third time is a charm..
     

    • Vigilant

      “Since the days of F.D.R. and his economic advisor {Eccles} who was the first to officially declare that the dynamo of democracies is its middle class. ”

      I know you leftists like to revise history to make your heroes be the first to say or do something (USSR was great at that), but Eccles’ was preceded a mere couple of thousand years by Aristotle:

      “One of the basic theories of politics, put forth by Aristotle centuries ago, is the theory of the middle class and its causal link with democracy. According to Aristotle, a large, prosperous middle class may mediate between rich and poor, creating the structural foundation upon which democratic political processes may operate.”
      http://books.google.com/books/about/The_Middle_Class_and_Democracy_in_Socio.html?id=wJDLkxHy_tsC

    • Vigilant

      “Conservative [sic] continue policies that advance inequality which very soon will return us the serfdom in a multiple [sic] fragmented nation with puppet dictators.”

      Methinks you are following political and economic developments in a parallel universe. Tell me how Conservatives can “continue policies” with progressives in charge of the government.

      Secondly, the very foundation of the Constitution was a commitment to PRESERVE our differences, not grind everyone down to the same level of economic misery. And, Mr. Marx, to afford and foster equal opportunity, not socialistically guarantee outcomes.

      • smilee

        Preamble

        We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

        Ever read the preamble, it is our mission statement going forward that begin in 1787 and set our goals which you seem to disagree with. After FDR we had the biggest and strongest middle class and the nation prospered for the vast majority unlike now with so much dismantling his polices. We still have many but many are in name only and have mostly been gutted and Aristotle was not an american and never seen or heard of a document such as our Constitution and FDR proved his statement to be not true.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          FDR kept us in Depression for 10 years, so what else would we expect from a Liberal Progressive like Sleepee but to worship FDR?
          The real FDR:
          http://library.mises.org/books/John%20T%20Flynn/The%20Roosevelt%20Myth.pdf

          • smilee

            First he inherited our countries biggest economic mess and it fell to him to lead us out of it and If it would not have been for FDR it would have been 25 years not ten and if it had not been for the republicans in 1937 who obstructed so much of what he was doing it would have been less than 10 years , your hatred of FDR and his policies are getting in your way of seeing reality here.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            There was an economic collapse in 1920, but in just a little over a year things were back to normal. Why? Because, unlike Hoover and Roosevelt, Warren Harding butted out:
            http://mises.org/daily/3788

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Nothing gets in your way of seeing reality, Sleepee, because you are blind. And your ears are bookends to a vacuum.

          • WTS/JAY

            Lol!!!

        • Vigilant

          Ever read the Federalist Papers or the detailed analysis of your ridiculous claim that “general welfare” has any meaning as broad as you define it?

          You continue in your absolutely obtuse mission to try to convince people that the general welfare clause and “welfare” as we know it today are the same thing.
          The Constitution is firmly based on the Declaration of Independence, THE VERY BASIS OF WHICH WAS THE GLORIFICATION OF INDIVIDUAL SOVEREIGNTY, not subordination of it to statist encroachments. .

          P.S. Son, if you truly believe that the Founders wanted to establish a welfare state then you need to seek medical help. EVERY Federalist Paper, EVERY writing by the Founders, militates against this cockeyed idea of yours.

          • smilee

            The founding fathers wrote the general welfare and the courts defined it, it is not my definition but I agree with theirs, it is you whom distorts its meaning without any reason why they say what they wrote is different than how the courts define it today, I only take the founding fathers at their word and that is the word they used and you can spin it any way you want you cannot change their original words, Why don’t you explain why general means something different then from the definition now. They are the same and general means general a very very broad term. Believe what you want but you cannot get away with inserting what you want the definition to be from what it really is. Your one mixed up dude.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            The Father of the US Constitution (James Madison) says otherwise:
            http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa41.htm
            “It has been urged and echoed, that the power “to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises, to pay the debts, and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States,” amounts to an unlimited commission to exercise every power which may be alleged to be necessary for the common defense or general welfare. No stronger proof could be given of the distress under which these writers labor for objections, than their stooping to such a misconstruction.
            Had no other enumeration or definition of the powers of the Congress been found in the Constitution, than the general expressions just cited, the authors of the objection might have had some color for it; though it would have been difficult to find a reason for so awkward a form of describing an authority to legislate in all possible cases. A power to destroy the freedom of the press, the trial by jury, or even to regulate the course of descents, or the forms of conveyances, must be very singularly expressed by the terms “to raise money for the general welfare.”
            But what color can the objection have, when a specification of the objects alluded to by these general terms immediately follows, and is not even separated by a longer pause than a semicolon? If the different parts of the same instrument ought to be so expounded, as to give meaning to every part which will bear it, shall one part of the same sentence be excluded altogether from a share in the meaning; and shall the more doubtful and indefinite terms be retained in their full extent, and the clear and precise expressions be denied any signification whatsoever? For what purpose could the enumeration of particular powers be inserted, if these and all others were meant to be included in the preceding general power?
            Nothing is more natural nor common than first to use a general phrase, and then to explain and qualify it by a recital of particulars. But the idea of an enumeration of particulars which neither explain nor qualify the general meaning, and can have no other effect than to confound and mislead, is an absurdity, which, as we are reduced to the dilemma of charging either on the authors of the objection or on the authors of the Constitution, we must take the liberty of supposing, had not its origin with the latter” — James Madison, Federalist #41.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Note that the authors of the Confederate Constitution, which was largely copied from the US Constitution, were smart enough to strip the “General Welfare” phrase out so that later weasle-lawyers couldn’t twist it and turn it to suit their purposes:
            http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_csa.asp

          • smilee

            What your point????? The federalist papers were written as a sales pitch to the colonies who were skeptical and somewhat unwilling to convince them to ratify the Constitution and are Madison’s opinions but they cannot be substituted for the words in the Constitution which became the supreme law of the land and not the federalist papers./. Your post is meaningless.

          • Vigilant

            From http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/General+Welfare

            “According to James Madison, the clause authorized Congress to spend money, but only to carry out the powers and duties specifically enumerated in the subsequent clauses of Article I, Section 8, and elsewhere in the Constitution, not to meet the seemingly infinite needs of the general welfare…

            “In United States v. Butler, 56 S. Ct. 312, 297 U.S. 1, 80 L. Ed. 477 (1936), the U.S. Supreme Court invalidated a federal agricultural spending program because a specific congressional power over agricultural production appeared nowhere in the Constitution. According to the Court in Butler, the spending program invaded a right reserved to the states by the Tenth Amendment.”

            That’s from a legal dictionary, ignoramus.

            You may also read http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/obamacare-general-welfare-clause if you still insist in making your inane assertions. YOU, my friend are the one who’s mixed up.

          • smilee

            James Madison’s federalist papers are not a part of the Constitution which is the supreme law of the land not the federalist papers and the Supreme Court interprets the Constitution based on it not the federalist papers albeit they do reference them sometimes for clarification but never substitute them for the Constitution as you do. The case you cite is not relevant to the general welfare. Article I section 8, clause one does give power to Congress to levy and collect taxes to pay for the general welfare and just last year the court ruled that included Obamacare and cited that clause as to why but you ignore that decision and it agrees with me and not you. No matter what spin you put on it the fact remains that the court has shot down the baloney you are spreading as it simply is not true regardless how many time you say it. Why not address that opinion as it deals specifically with what is included in the general welfare, you on he other hand wish to give it a different meaning with one not in the Constitution.

        • Vigilant

          “After FDR we had the biggest and strongest middle class and the nation prospered for the vast majority ”
          Your grasp of history is as deficient as your understanding of the Constitution.

          FDR’s policies both lengthened and deepened the Depression. It was WWII and ONLY WWII that brought the country out of it and created the burgeoning middle class.

          • smilee

            Another big lie from your lips, just simply is not as you describe, yes world war II brought us a booming economy and helped but who was the driver behind it FDR, which you conveniently forget.

          • Vigilant

            As Reagan said, “The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.”

            How FDR Made the Depression Worse: http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=258
            And many many Google hits on FDR’s near destruction of the American economy.

          • smilee

            Remember Reagan had alzheimer’s. Your propaganda site cannot be relied on for the truth and they have lead you from the truth as they are designed to.

    • Larry Christopher

      @Bernard Forand…You have said a lot about absolutely nothing. That (unfortunately) is the way liberals seem to feel self-important and “above” the average American. The truth is, their pompous attitudes only prove them to be ignorant of actual facts and ignorant of any truth. The perfect example to disprove your foolish premise is Detroit. Years and years of Democrat rule…years and years of socialist programs… years and years of government handouts, and what is the result? A population of zombies that are so blissfully ignorant, they don’t realize the seriousness of their demise. Growth rates during this administration have been staggeringly void. They tout unemployment rates declining, but don’t seem to care about the actual jobs that have been lost and will never return. Obama (aka Soetoro, Aka Bounel…aka Shabazz) does not champion ANYONE except himself. A “mere 8 years” of his ignorance will push this country into the area known as “the point of no return”. The potential Democrats “in the wings” such as Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren only proves that the Democratic party have absolutely no leadership. Hillary is a complete disgrace. The gun running scheme in Benghazi where Ambassador Chris Stevens and the other three Americans were MURDERED was her “brain child”. She and Barry have their hand dripping in their blood…and yet, she spouts out to Congress “…at this point what difference does it make!” . It makes a hell of a lot of difference! Elizabeth Warren is just the poster child for stupidity…so there is no reason to even list her so-called qualifications. Since you mentioned the “2008 Great Recession”, I feel it is my duty to let you in on some facts. For the first 6 years of his Presidency, G.W. Bush had a thriving economy. Even though we had the largest terrorist attack on this country, we as a nation overcame the situation. It wasn’t until the DEMOCRATS too over the majority of the House and Senate that things even hinted at a decline. At that time, Chris Dodd (DEMOCRAT) became Chairman of the Banking Committee, and Barney Franks (DEMOCRAT) became Chairman of the Housing Committee. Under there guidance, the low income, unqualified individuals were given home loans they couldn’t afford. Even though Bush warned Congress 17 times this would create disastrous results, they continued on their merry way. The housing bubble that started the massive decline of this country was under Bush’s Presidency…but created by the DEMOCRATS. I’m sure that makes you very proud. Then, the evil Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi…and equally evil Harry Reid pushed through Obamacare. Everything the Liberals / Socialists / Communists / Marxists / Progressives have their hands on turns into a disaster…and people like you (the mindless lemming) is just as much of a problem as our (p)resident. Barack Obama is not only a disgrace to the White race…and a disgrace to the Black race…he is a disgrace to the HUMAN RACE.

      • Gary Baker

        you are really the ultimate in stupidity if you think that the republican party is guiltless of the deregulation of wall street and the mortgage banks that cause the huge downturn in the economy and the shipping of jobs overseas..the corruption of both parties is endless.. BOTH PARTIES..that is why voting on the federal level is a waste of time.. you get two choices and they are both the same thing…a bowl of crap served up to the middle class American..

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Get one thing straight, Gary, the banks and Wall Street have not been deregulated. The regulations are just different:
          http://www.scribd.com/doc/144210931/Wayne-Crews-Ten-Thousand-Commandments-An-Annual-Snapshot-of-the-Federal-Regulatory-State-2013

          Please read this to see what regulations are really all about (hint — they aren’t to protect us):
          http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Ripoff-Business-Government/dp/0471789070

          • Gary Baker

            I understand completely that regulations hurt the small guy. Wall Street and the mortgage banks are not the small guy are they. So if there were true regulations on wall street and mortgage banks why did not one person go to jail over the massive failures….why did not one company or bank have their assets seized…if my business committed fraud id be locked up and my assets would be sold off to compensate for the fraud that has been committed by these entities…..tell me my friend why did jack Abramoff get such a light sentence for the fraud of almost 12 million dollars of someone elses money? and why didn’t the republican politicians who he bought off or the democratic politicians for that matter none received any jail time? I have said it all along I don’t believe either of these parties are really to protect and serve the middle class American or any American for that matter except the ultra rich…even the democrats use the lower class to enrich their upper class friends.’

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Gary says — “tell me my friend why did jack Abramoff get such a light sentence for the fraud of almost 12 million dollars of someone elses money?”.
            I think you misunderstood my comment, Gary.

        • BALONEY TONEY MAHONEY

          Meet the New boss, same as the old boss!!!

  • Warrior

    When the “machine breaks”, parts will need to be replaced. There are a whole lot of broken and worn out parts in the goobmint machine. I recommend going back to “OEM” specified parts. Since “progressive” parts are not “OEM”, they can be shipped oversees.

    • Warrior

      OOPS, “OVERSEAS”!

  • KG

    I know Mr Michael Boldin fantasizes about being a Colonel in the Confederate Army. I mean, it would be fun at a reenactment show, but does he have to wear his confederate uniform every day? Many of the things he talks about were settled at Appomattox Court House. Every body complains about “constitutional violations” and, yet they cannot state the Article or clause that is in violation. Which means that they are either lying or deluded. Please, put away your grey’s and actually look at the world around you.

    • Vigilant

      Please, put away your Che Guavara T-shirt and actually look at history.

      He’s talking about nullification, not secession. Problems with reading comprehension?

      • KG

        Please tell me the Article and clause that is being violated. If you can do that, I MIGHT have some empathy for Colonel Boldin.

        • JoeBlake

          Try reading the 10th Admendment KG.
          Obama have overstepped his authority beyond the Constitution many many times and you know it.

          • KG

            Are you joking? …or just high?

          • JoeBlake

            no and no..just having a nice cup of coffee.

          • smilee

            Probably but for sure he is ignorant, this is how he wants things but it is not reality and he knows not what he speaks of because Obama has proven before the court every time he has argued before them he has not overstepped his authority and they agreed, Joe just does not get that.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            The height of Ignorance — Expecting a member of a Gang to undermine his own Gang.

          • smilee

            If you read Obama’s arguments, the decisions and the Constitution you would find out they are both right and you are wrorg which you usually are

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Sleepee, you have no credibility on this board.

          • smilee

            Your looking in the mirror and seeing me when it is you looking in it and it is really you. Remember I have said your out of touch with reality and here again you illuminate that fact.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Article I, Section 8, almost every day.
          http://www.cato.org/pubs/constitution/article1_en.html
          The Federal Government was given certain enumerated Powers. Everything else was left to the States or the People.
          Before KGB, the Communist, comes back with his General Welfare Equivocation, read this:
          http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa41.htm
          And before KGB comes back with his Commerce Clause Equivocation, listen to this:

          And no, KGB won’t have some empathy for Boldin, because he isn’t here to learn about Freedom. He’s here to interfere with you learning about Freedom.

          • smilee

            We all know the court disagrees with your positions as they do not conform to the Constitution so button it up as it is an argument you cannot win

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            We all know a FEDERAL court will tend to side with FEDERAL government. If indeed their decisions were based on the letter of the Constitution, there would rarely be 5 to 4 votes on the rules outlined in such a simply written document:
            http://www.cato.org/pubs/constitution/constitution_en.html

            Speaking of Simple, heeeere’s Sleepee!

          • smilee

            The court decides on the Constitution and is does not do the bidding of either state or federal, example the recent voting act decision that catered to the states not the federal which totally contradicts your statement. You are so out of touch with reality.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You are getting Sleepee…….

        • Vigilant

          For starters:

          Article II, Section 2 (3): “The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.” Egregious violation of this provision.

          Article II, Section 3: “he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed…” DOMA, federal immigration law.

          • smilee

            The first is still being tested in the court and has not reached the SC as yet to determine if the senate is really in recess when at the same time it cannot conduct any real business, so you have to wait for the final act on this before you say what you say.

            There is no evidence of that either, DOMA was enforced as no legally married gay couple was allowed to file taxes jointly or any other restriction that it put on gays was abandoned. Obama correctly knew this law was unconstitutional and waited for the court to before he quit enforcing it. It is impossible to enforce all immigration laws because congress has not appropriated enough funds to do so so the administration has been forced to pick and chose and despite that he has prosecuted record numbers and has the record in deportations and the best border security ever because congress did greaty increase funding for that, despite rhetoric to the contrary that distorts these facts

      • smilee

        The word he used was succession and nullification does not exist either. The Constitution is what it is and not what you dream it to be

        • Nadzieja Batki

          So why don’t you follow the Constitution in what it is and not what you dream it to be.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          So why don’t you follow the Constitution in what it is and not what you dream it to be.

          • smilee

            I do, s sorry you are so ignorant you cannot see that

          • Vigilant

            You’re right, Nadzieja. Smilee still labors under a dream that the original Constitution outlawed slavery, and that the “general welfare” phrase in the Preamble somehow gives the government the right to step all over us.

            “Useful idiot” is the KINDEST thing you can say about him.

          • smilee

            Never said it outlawed slavery I said it did not sanction it so it was unconstitutional, certainly it was practiced and considered legal under state laws. If you think I am wrong then please point out were in the constitution it sanctioned or allowed slavery or mentioned black people or said black people were not a part of “We the People” in the preamble. It did not say women could not vote either but they could not in practice because neither was addressed clearly and later in 1865 and 1920 they amended the constitution to clarify it in specific terms so no one could any longer use the tenth amendment as an excuse to prevent slavery and women from voting but they were always a part of “We the People” and no court or the Congress would enforce the Constitution to recognize and protect all people as being a part of “We the People” In 1868 they amended the constitution so no state could make a law that did not guarantee equal protection and now gays are getting that equal protection enforced by the court in some states based on the 14th. Cases are pending that soon the SC will address gays under the 14th which they have not as yet done and then the whole country will have to marry gays. So here is yet another situation were gays could have married if the 14th had been enforced in 1868 but now over a 100 later we are now seeing it enforced, the same was true of slavery and woman’s suffrage but congress addressed the first two and the courts the last and either can enforce the constitution. I challenge you to show us were in the original constitution and bill of rights that slavery was outlawed as you put it. I dare you!!!

          • Vigilant

            ” I challenge you to show us were in the original constitution and bill of rights that slavery was outlawed…”

            Thank you smilee, at last you’ve argued yourself into a corner. You are 100% correct: the Constitution NEVER outlawed slavery, as I’ve been trying to tell you for months and months.

            Man, and you call ME mixed up.

          • smilee

            I never said it was outlawed them is your words not mine. I explained in detail my position and you ignored all I said and punted on my challenge. My challenge still stands, will you take it and reveal your lack of knowledge or chicken out like you did in this post. We both know you cannot refute my position cause yours does not exist. So show us where slavery was sanctioned in the Constitution. Just think how intelligent you will look if you can do it. I got you boxed in a corner and you know it and that is why you are punting.

          • Vigilant

            You have the cognitive retention of an ant. I’ve pointed out the specific articles and sections of the Constitution that address slavery to you at least twice in the past. You will not want to read Frederick Douglass’ remarks confirming EVERYTHING I’ve said about the Constitution at http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/the-constitution-and-slavery/

            It refutes EVERYTHING you have said about it.

            Your challenge still stands? You’re really retarded. I AGREE SLAVERY WAS NOT OUTLAWED BY THE CONSTITUTION, always have, always will. What was not specified amongst the enumerated powers of the federal government was left up to the states to determine. It’s called the 10th Amendment, idiot.

            AND, if the framers intended for slavery to be unconstitutional, THE CONSTITUTION NEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN RATIFIED BY THE SOUTHERN STATES. Of course, you are too obtuse to perceive that fact of history.

            Anything not specifically prohibited by the feds was legal AND Constitutional. Slavery was both legal and Constitutional. It was the 13th Amendment and ONLY the 13th Amendment that made it illegal and unconstitutional.

            This is my last word on the subject. I’ve already broken my rule of not engaging in discussion with willful ignoramuses.

          • smilee

            You obviously do not see blacks as people as you do not include them in “We the People” but the Constitution leaves no persons out in the preamble where we is inclusive of all people including blacks and then they like all people would then have all protections including those in the bill of rights and then the 10th could not apply. In the dred scott decision the author took the liberty to define blacks as the equivalent of animals like cattle pigs etc and then they could be property, if he had defined them as people which they are in reality he then would have had to grant them all rights and privileges including those in the bill of rights as all other people and to avoid that and maintain slavery he declared them as animals and thus property but no where in the Constitution are blacks defined as animals or property. It is universally accepted that this decision is the most wrongly decided decision in SC history and should of ended slavery in that decision if decided correctly. Yes, the south would not have voted for it without assurances they could keep their slaves, that was agreed to but not in the Constitution and both knew that and that the Constitution would not been ratified or kept in force without it that was clear and for 75 years that was the practice and then it took a war to end it and so there was no misunderstanding that or a basis for any saying the tenth applied when if honestly reviewed before the courts they should have found it did not. Lincoln would not take that chance and insisted the 13th be passed before he would accept surrender of the south and end the war and as soon as congress did pass it he ended the war and accepted their surrender. Now can you honestly say anything I just wrote is not true, you know you cannot, If you honestly believe that the Constitution allowed slavery then please address that and point out where it is in the Constitution instead of ignoring that and attack me on what I did not say and ignore what I have said. Your last post is still a cop out from doing so and still proves you are chicken or to proud to admit you have been proven wrong.

        • Vigilant

          “The word he used was succession [sic] and nullification does not exist either.”

          The word who used? Not Mr. Boldin and not KG, so who are you talking about (and misspelling the word about)?

          • smilee

            Vigilant KG • 3 hours ago−

            Please, put away your Che Guavara T-shirt and actually look at history.

            He’s talking about nullification, not secession. Problems with reading comprehension?

            RECOGNIZE IT?????? i WAS TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU WROTE, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT NEITHER YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BOTH

          • Vigilant

            I know you have serious problems with spelling, now I discover you have problems with first-, second- and third person.

            Your post addressed ME, not some third person. Quote: “He’s talking about…” instead of “You’re talking about…” Grammar was obviously NOT your forte in English class.

          • smilee

            Your one mixed up dude, regardless you knew I was talking about you so quit splitting hairs.

          • Ringgo1

            Your obvious lack of education does NOT entitle you to issue directives to others on this board. Educate yourself if you want to be effective.

          • smilee

            Davy, can’t you follow along?????????

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      I believe that Secession is the only answer. But fat chance getting your State Leaders to grow any huevos against their inherent nature to grow their own Power and Perks at your expense:
      http://mises.org/daily/3427
      http://mises.org/daily/6344/Secession-A-Specifically-American-Principle
      http://mises.org/daily/6345/A-Voluntary-Federation
      http://mises.org/daily/6352/The-American-Genius-for-SelfGovernment
      http://mises.org/daily/6359/Peaceful-Disunion-in-Europe

      • smilee

        Secession is dead and a relic of the past, so quit living in the past, it is over.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          You are a relic of the past, Sleepee. Your kind were thrown out of our country 230 years ago, and they will be thrown out again in the future.

          • smilee

            Again you make no sense all pure BS

        • Hey You!

          Wait a couple of year before concluding that secession is “over”.

          • smilee

            It is history and will remain that way but dream on if you like.

    • smilee

      A person with intelligence and has the ability to see the truth.

    • Elevenarrows

      Oh, please! KG, even my kids understand that the commerce clause has NOTHING to do with forcing citizens to buy insurance!!! Just as Obamacare has NOTHING to do with health!!! Not much dissecting of the Constitution is required to see that this administration (as well as most that came before) is twisting and contorting the Constitution in ways the founders and most sanely-thinking people never imagined.

      I’ve been reading a lot of WWII books this past year and I am constantly struck by the similarities to the rise of the Third Reich….I feel like I woke up one day and found myself in Nazi Germany. Now we get to live with the likes of the IRS, NSA, EPA, DHS, and the list goes on and on constantly threatening us…history repeats itself and if we aren’t willing to learn from the lessons of the past, may God have mercy on us.

    • Hey You!

      The only thing that was settled at Appomattox Court House was that one side was militarily stronger than the other side.

  • JoeBlake

    Outstanding article!!! Non-compliance is a brillant move! Obama and his people in particular Erich Holder have not comply with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights from day one!!
    ACA should be treated in this manner..what are they going to do put all 300 millions Americans in jail??!!

    • smilee

      Interesting because every case that has been brought before the SC that the administration has argued before the court has supported their position and this court is considered a conservative majority and yet you say they do not comply.The court did support the ACA and you want us to believe you?? What you say is irrelevant because you are, the court is not.

      • JoeBlake

        the SC is infected with Left Wing agendas…Obama appointed 2 judges in his 1st term alone. the SCOTUS no longer represent the majority views.

        • smilee

          But the majority is still Conservative, sorry that some of them disappoint you. The decisions are based on the Constitution and not necessarily the majority views and I doubt your views are in the majority.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            The decisions have not been based on the Constitution for many decades. They are based on Politics and preservation of the Gang.

          • smilee

            Your opinion and it is wrong as it usually is!!

          • independent thinker

            Last I heard the court is considered evenly divided with one swing vote who happens to vote conservative more than liberal.

          • smilee

            Weather the vote is 5-4 or 9-0 the power of the decision is the same and that is what counts your opinion does not

          • Vigilant

            “But the majority is still Conservative…”
            Another blissfully ignorant (or idiotic) comment from smile. The court is 4 leftist activists, 3 Conservatives and 2 swing votes.

            Kennedy and Roberts are now both swing voters.

          • smilee

            Again I repeat you are one mixed up dude!!

          • Vigilant

            Prove me wrong. Bader Ginsberg, Kagan, Sotomayor and Breyer are liberal activist justices. Scalia, Alito and Thomas are Conservatives. Roberts and Kennedy are the swing votes.

            I’ll bet you didn’t even know their names.

          • smilee

            I do know their names everyone of them and you are free to give what is nothing more than your opinion here but it has nothing to do with what is being discussed here so what is your point and your problem like I said you are one mixed up dude.

          • JoeBlake

            But they are ,,America does not want mandated care.

          • smilee

            Does not matter congress has the power to do so under the Constitution and it did and the court said it was constitutional. That majority you talk about was not gained by an election so it to has no legal weight

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            They’re not Conservatives, Sleepee. If they were the Federal Government would be less than 1/3 the size it is.

        • chuch

          The SCOTUS no longer supports the constitution!

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        What you say is irrelevant, Sleepee, because you have no credibility on this board.

    • Elevenarrows

      You forget that half of the country is living off the “government” (which is really our money) so they are quite willing to comply with anything “master” says. I, for one, am shocked that so many blacks are willing to live on the plantation, so to speak. You would expect a little righteous indignation instead of so many hands out for freebies. Go ahead and call me racist…that is the usual objection made by people with their hands out. As long as freebies keep flowing, there will be compliance by most of the populace. And that crosses racial lines.Those of us who refuse to comply (for example, I will not be signing up for Obamacare due to religious objections let alone, constitutional ones) will find ourselves paying tax penalties and yes, I think they would not blink an eye over throwing millions of us in jail. Don’t forget, the current administration has been growing the IRS so they will be equipped to handle the masses.

      I also read recently that the enrollment and enforcement of Obamacare is so overwhelming that they are training people to help sign us up…and that the sign up process will eventually require us to hire help…just like our tax returns have become so messy that many of us hire the (expensive) services of a CPA just to stay in compliance. Can you fantasize about how simple life would be if we never had April 15 (or in my case, October 15) hanging over us??? Get ready to dread another day every year….

  • Doc Sarvis

    “People everywhere back this up with their money. The 2012 elections saw about $6 billion spent.” If most of that cash was the people’s money that would be one thing. Thanks to the Conservative Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision, most of that money is from corporations. The top 1-2% and their corporate fronts own congress and some of the President (any modern-day President) as well. Elected officials ARE “unelected” when they get fewer votes. It happens, just not as often as it should thanks to that Supreme Court decision and corporate money in elections. Even before Citizens United, the top 1-2% and corporations bought many elections but with C. I. the floodgates opened.
    You put the statement; ““Government today is bigger and more unConstitutional than it was before the last election.”” in quotes but why. Who said this and what constitutes “bigger and more unConstitutional”?

    “If you’re knocking on doors trying to help someone win a congressional primary race, or you’ve if donated your $100 to a 2016 Presidential candidate, you’ve already lost.” Bullhonkey! Lots of campaigns local up to national benefit from grassroots work (just ask President Obama). That kind of work is no longer a guarantee of getting your candidate in place – or the other one out, but it can be an important component in a victory.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Doc says — “Thanks to the Conservative Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision, most of that money is from corporations”.
      What’s the matter, Doc, you can’t do your own research and make an intelligent vote in spite of the ads?
      And you, being a Progressive, have no legs to stand on because those Corporations would be Powerless without the aid of the Leviathan Government that you have helped to create.
      With Free Markets, the Corporations couldn’t run to the Crony Politicians for favorable regulations protecting them from their competitors. They’d have to please the Consumers or perish.
      You could learn that and more, Doc, by reading this book, but you won’t because it would threaten the very core of your previously Propagandized mindset:
      http://library.mises.org/books/Kel%20Kelly/The%20Case%20for%20Legalizing%20Capitalism.pdf

      Here’s another, but you’ll have to pay money for this one:
      http://www.amazon.com/How-Capitalism-Saved-America-ebook/dp/B000FC1TDK

    • Bill

      Another one of Doc’s intelligent comments that blames all the problems on the other guys that do not think like Doc. How juvenile

      • Doc Sarvis

        Seems this whole site, like many, are devoted to blaming all the problems on the other guys that do not think like the posters.

    • Hey You!

      Evidently, D.S. is not in agreement with the lead article, ““vote the bums out”. Think about it; national elections are part of the circuses which are distracting people like D.S. who still have faith in democracy, even though it fails on super-size political entities.

  • dan

    i don’t have confidence that the vote counting is not fraudulent….
    non-citizens voting,multiple votes,DEAD voters,lost votes (like the military’s)
    you can’t win at a crooked game

    • JoeBlake

      exactly..

    • smilee

      Interesting that you feel that way when the only support of what you say is in the far right rhetoric which is not supported in fact, no evidence exists to show elections are won fraudulently and when fraud is found prosecutions result and there are very few of them

      • RubyBlu

        There are many, many more of us who feel the same way about fraudulant elections. To further prove that, our current president, by Executive Order, blocked any and all demands for inquiries on ‘his’ election….what more proof would satisfy you? Well, guess you just have to research.

        • smilee

          Elections are conducted and controlled under state law and administered by the counties and Obama has nothing to do with it or power over it and this shows just how ignorant you really are and the only thing you seem to believe is the far right wing propaganda that is totally false. If you actually know what research is you might try it but why do i have the feeling you will not as the truth is not something you seem too interested in.

          • RubyBlu

            Good luck to you!!

      • JoeBlake

        very few of them are prosecuted because those committing the frauds are protected by the media and the Democrats not to mention the left leaning courts..
        there should be NO fraud whatsoever if the election process is to be respected. trusted and carried on into the future.

        • smilee

          Dream on silly you are totally wrong again

          • Justsomeguy151

            A broken wristwatch is right twice a day and that accuracy blows yours away. You must be a barely functioning retard to STILL mindlessly support a Kenyan usurper fraud who’s bankrupted yr nation while transforming it into Orwell’s police state in “1984”. What’s Libtards battle cry? “Its Bush’s fault”!

          • smilee

            Lies lies and more lies, is that the best you can do?????????

          • Justsomeguy151

            Nothing I said was untrue: you support the Kenyan usurper; he is a fraud and failure by any standard of measure; he had the chance to turn America around but he chose to bankrupt us; the US has a police state unlike any seen in history, EXACTLY what he campaigned AGAINST; and Libtards’ favorite motto is “Its Bush’s fault”. So where did I lie?

          • smilee

            Lies lies and more lies, is that the best you can do?????????

        • guest

          The ONLY way to prevent fraud is the ID system.
          Everyone who drives needs an Id card, you need it to enter many buildings today, you need it to even get a library card, so what is the hardship they are manufacturing for minorities????? They don’t drive, enter buildings etc? Give me a break.
          I came in legally and could not vote UNTIL I became a citizen-at the time 5years! Now, they let illegals vote and the new bunch being given amnesty will get everything free? Who pays for it? OBAMA! Not on your life, he just spends on million dollar vacations.
          I can foresee a two state solution one of these days.
          Conservative and Communist. Wonder where the latter will get the money to pay off the freeloaders?
          Just saying

      • machodog

        There is plenty of evidence that shows fraud in the elections. Start with the woman who admitted that she voted six times for obama in 2012. That’s the only one that they could prosectute but there are many, many more.

        • smilee

          She said that so you could say this but she did not vote six times, our state prosecuted 72 cases of fraud out of 2.5 million votes. your BS holds no water as the problem you want us to believe does not exist.

          • machodog

            Hmm…I’m talking to a sheeple.

          • smilee

            I see you run out of anything intelligent to say, oh wait, you never could!!

          • smilee

            I see you run out of anything intelligent to say, oh wait, you never could!!

          • Vigilant

            Better to run out of intelligent things to say than to be devoid from the start of any intelligent comments whatsoever. If you ever had an intelligent thought it would die of loneliness.

          • smilee

            Like I said you are one mixed up dude!! and again you prove it

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            That might hurt his feelings if you had any credibility, Sleepee, but you don’t.

          • smilee

            AS you know nothing about credibility as most like you do not I will not take your statement seriously as it is meaningless and nothing you say could ever hurt my feeling due to its source

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            How could I hurt your feelings? You have no conscience.

          • smilee

            What would you know about consciences?? so why did you ask if you hurt my feelings then??

          • machodog

            Typical moron reply.

          • Justsomeguy151

            Said the hypocritical moron Obumma zombie bootlicker who’s a traitor to his country.

          • smilee

            You have nothing intelligent to say either!!!!!!!

          • Justsomeguy151

            There was more intelligence in my modest post than all of yr diatribes combined.

          • smilee

            Enlighten me and tell me what intelligence you think you have

          • Justsomeguy151

            Yr too stupid to be enlightened and I’ve already shown myself to be infinitely more intelligent than yr Obumma zombie bootlicking ass.

          • smilee

            In you own simple thinking mind you are but never in reality!!

          • Justsomeguy151

            “In you own simple thinking mind you are but never in reality!!” – smellee What are you just learning the English language, troll? You wouldn’t know reality if it punched you in yr moronic face, Obumma zombie bootlicker.

          • smilee

            You got my message the proper English did not prevent you from getting it so it is irrelevant to the conversation and you use it to try to divert from you simple thinking but that is not working either

          • Justsomeguy151

            The message is that yr an idiot, who’s so stupid he worships a Kenyan fraud that has sworn to destroy America and him as well. Like a good Obumma zombie it just doesn’t compute that yr god hates you and is trying to kill you.

          • smilee

            In you own simple thinking mind but not in reality!!

          • Justsomeguy151

            Heres an idea: Learn and master the English language then come back here and show how stupid and brainwashed of an Obumma zombie you truly are. “Reality” as if a Libtard has any clue what that is. LMAO!!!

          • Doc Sarvis

            Smilee is exactly correct. Real cases of election fraud are easily told but rarely proven.
            The closest thing to fraud in the last Presidential Election was Republican efforts to disenfranchise people of their vote in several states.

        • Jeff

          How many people in Democratic areas of swing states were discouraged from voting by the long lines? Don’t they understand in Florida and Ohio that more people would like to vote without waiting all day? Perhaps more polling places or more machines? Funny how it happens every year.

  • me

    Too bad more people don’t get Personal Digest. It would probly wake up the sheeple and the uncaring. If these bunches voted we’d probly see change. The vote is just about all we have left since our government has created royalty in them selves and have robbed us of everything except the vote which still has huge power. Change is needed. vote.

    • dan

      I keep voting ,but :
      Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
      Albert Einstein

  • Marshall Watson

    Praise the Lord! I have finally been given the answer to the question I have asked so many times, but it definitely is not what I expected. I have been asking how would we go about getting officials with true integrity elected to congress to turn our government around and take it back to what it was meant to be, the protector and servant of the people it represents. Mr Boldin has reminded us of the advise given to us by the Father of our original Constitution, James Madison. If, at a local level we as the people, the true power in our country, when fed up with the garbage being shoveled out to us by Washington and our State Governments, we should refuse to comply. Individually, but more importantly as organized groups, just say no. Can they arrest 5,000 people at the same time because the refuse to comply with “Obama care?” Will they go so far as to charge 10,000 people with violation of the law if they all refuse to comply with unreasonable gun control regulations? Will they shut down the trucking industry if 100,000 truckers refuse to comply with the unreasonable regulations of the totally unnecessary Department of Transportation. Will they fire millions of everyday employees if they refuse to comply with the demands of the draconian Department of Labor and their Union bosses. We the people are the power behind the government, when they pass laws and regulations against the will of the people, refuse to comply. Talk with your neighbors, church members, fellow employees, lets get to know each other again and let ourselves be heard in a language Washington understands, just say NO!!!!!!!! Trust in the Lord, place your faith in something that is real and eternal, then stand back and watch the Lord do a work you would never have imagined could take place.

    • Bill

      The problem is that there are very few with integrity that get elected

      • Marshall Watson

        Bill its because they can’t break into a broken system that only allows new members who agree to obey their rules. But, if we, as the article suggested refuse to comply with their stupid decisions they hit a brick wall. And if the hit that wall hard enough it will fall “on them.”

  • another vet

    Couldn’t we just stop funding the Federal Government? If the whole country refused to give them our tax dollars, wouldn’t that put the brakes on them being able to operate?I don’t think they could imprison everyone.

    • Vigilant

      “If the whole country refused to give them our tax dollars…”
      Right. I don’t perceive any groundswell of support for that Pollyanna view.

      Nice to imagine, but that’s as far as it goes..

      • dan

        I don’t think they CARE how much they collect…they just print up more and give it to their buddies who then donate it back to them….taxes are more for the threat of having your life and liberty and pursuit of happiness taken by prosecuting and imprisoning you

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Yes, they could. And they would do it with your own confiscated wealth either directly by court action, or indirectly by borrowing the money from the Federal Reserve in which case they would be buying the scarce goods in the economy with their fiat money while driving up the prices for the rest of us.

    • RAND PAUL IN 2016

      They would just print up more money & they gots tons of weapons these days, too so they can do whatever they want to!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Yes “they” can and you’ll just make yourself a slave with new owners,

    • Wiley2

      The main purpose in creating the Federal Reserve and giving that private cabal of bankers the power to print currency was to covertly steal wealth from the populace by inflating the currency supply. This became the main source of funding for the government (and of wealth for the bankers). The establishment of the income tax in the same year as the establishment of the Fed was a decoy to fool the people into believing that taxes were the only way the government was taking wealth from them, and that it would live within those means. The government doesn’t need us to pay taxes — as long as we have fiat currency, not backed by anything tangible, government will fund itself by stealth through inflation.

      One way to resist the kleptocrats is to get as much money out of the banking system as possible and put it into the real, constitutional money of gold and silver, held outside the banking system and beyond the prying eyes of the IRS. Then convert only as much of it back to fiat as you need for daily commerce. Another way to resist is to get out of debt, stay out of debt, and don’t use credit.

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      They will print more money.

  • smilee

    The size of the government is larger over all now , but you ignore the much larger population it now serves and when you proportionately compare it on a per capital basis it is the smallest it has been since the fifties both in spending and taxes. and then it functioned much better than it does now. A starved beast can be ugly and hard to manage as it now is at least until we vote the bums out that created this mess and that is an option we do have too. The federalist papers was the sales pitch to a reluctant and suspicious group of colonies of the time to ratify our Constitution so one has to look at the motivation of them as well, the Constitution itself is what matters not what Madison said albeit a good reference when taken in context, out of contest it skews your message.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Are you purposely lying, Sleepee, or are you just that ignorant?
      1950 — Federal Government Spending was $44.8 Billion.
      Using Government’s own inflation calculator that would be equivalent to $426.8 Billion in 2012 dollars.
      The Population was 150.7 million people.
      2012 — Federal Government Spending was $3795.6 Billion
      The Population was 315.0 million people.

      So the Federal Government spending in real dollars (i.e., adjusted for inflation) has grown by 8.9 times what it was in 1950, whereas the population has only grown by 2.1 times what it was in 1950.
      And that is why Sleepee has no credibility on this board.

      • smilee

        You are always spouting out numbers and 90% of the time you are wrong without documentation of what you say here I will ignore it as many reliable persons have said what I said and they are ones you can believe, you are not among them so frankly I do not believe you

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Prove me wrong, Sleepee, if you can. Or you can just continue doing what got you your lack of credibility in the first place.

          • smilee

            It is not necessary as it is so obvious to most your are wrong and lack any credibility

  • RAND PAUL IN 2016

    Voting will only matter if there is a viable 3rd choice, free of corruption & lobbyists, both sides have sold us down the river, crapped on us & the rule of law….my dream: A Constitutional Libertarian Party led by Rand Paul to cut down this federal beast & let the power start to flow back to the states!

    • Bill

      Add Jesse Ventura to the Rand Paul ticket and you might have a winning combination.
      The largest problem we have is that illegals vote in our elections and are usually the deciding factor. Maybe a way of attracting the illegals would be to promise to grow the economy with capitalism which would create more jobs for them

      • RAND PAUL IN 2016

        Dr. Ben Carson would be a good choice, too!

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Judge Napolitano would be great, but alas he doesn’t seem interested:

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Rand Paul is certainly a cut above the average Politician, but he is no Ron Paul.
      http://www.lp.org/platform

      • RAND PAUL IN 2016

        Hey, no one is perfect, but to me he’s as good as it gets!

    • Elevenarrows

      Yes, a third party (the Constitution Party would be my suggestion for you to consider) would be great…for a brief moment in time. However, it would not be long before it would become tainted and corrupted like the others. Those who oppose American and constitutional principles would work hard to infiltrate the third party. Anyone who has followed the struggle of the Boy Scouts of America to protect the values with which they were founded can easily observe their opponent was willing to wage a 20+ year war in order to infiltrate the ranks and, ultimately, change the organization. Notice, the opponents were not willing to go form their own organization catering to their own values (or lack thereof). They were not content until they took over Boy Scouts. The same would eventually happen to any third party unless the members zealously guarded their principles.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        That’s true, Nad, but if the majority of the population educated themselves to the Principles of Freedom, it would be much more difficult for usurpers to infiltrate.

        • Justsomeguy151

          That’s a huge “If” and will never happen. People have been brainwashed to not care about politics, they just want to bitch about the results. They are blissfully ignorant of any power they may have. Our strength lies in our numbers but when people can’t be bothered to get involved or be vigilant, we get the lazy, brainwashed masses of zombies called American society.

        • michiganminuteman

          Why would ANYONE vote down on that statement unless they were a communist?

      • RAND PAUL IN 2016

        That is being quite pessimistic….at this point I would just settle for it happening & take my chances…..I guess Ron & Rand Paul think they could get more accomplished from within the toxic Republican party than start their won, but as one saw how Ron Paul got screwed at the last Republican convention, methinks the time has come to try a new party & the hell with them!

  • Motov

    Washington DC needed an enima for years, It is way past time to “vote da bums out”, Their empty promises made during campaign season warrants a swift kick on their butts. We need to occupy Washington DC and cause disruption on their corruption.

    • michiganminuteman

      I’m with ya on that one! I know the way to DC if anybody needs a ride.

  • Deerinwater

    To get anything done, incentive must be offered, ~~ a simple universal truth.

    Too few people people do things in some unselfish fashion out of love or pure conviction, regardless of what they might tell you.

    So ! ~ It’s left to the carrot or the stick to motive people. ~` “Voting them out” is the stick and the money offered the carrot.

    Attempt to look upon it anymore complicated , you will get lost and take the beating of your life as you walk away feeling that you did the right thing.

    That people have been left to vote for the less of two evils for the last few election is discouraging. So love and conviction hasn’t actually been overly effective even in small numbers. ~

    There was once a time when the GOP could command 27 % of the popular vote with a loyal party bias. ~~ that day seems to be now gone as demographic change and GOP coattails tear away unable to carry the weight demanded to win a General.

    When people tell you things like , “It’s not about the money.” ~ it’s always about the money. When people say things like, “Don’t worry about the money.” ~ That is your cue to stay worrying about the money.

    Politic’s runs on money. ~ and depends on chumps with starry eyes.

    • dan

      that and Demos became Marxists and
      GOP became Good Old Progressive RINO’s
      and collapsed the big tent on conservatives and independents

  • red neck

    Vote the bums out… HUH I tried that with king obama but unfortunately we got stuck with his stupid arse anyway…

    • wavesofgrain

      He is a master at ‘organizing’ successful voter fraud.

  • Dave

    Everyone is arguing about this party or that party. This article was stating how the whole entire Federal Government is screwing us. And, hes right! Obama is living proof nothing is going to happen to Federal Officials. I don’t care what party he represents. He has done enough to be impeached and arrested. But, it has been ignored and keeps on. That tells me, know body in D.C. gives a damn. Not Republicans or Dems. Boldin has a point with Americans standing up. But, you better be prepared for the possibilities. My point: 2 FEMA camps with in a hour or two drive from my house. Didn’t believe it until i went and seen the one in Lima, Ohio. And, you can look the rest of them up across the country….And, now more of our Liberties and Constitution Rights are at risk. The President is ready to sign the UN Arms Treaty.

    • michiganminuteman

      I hate to think of the world we will be living in if the UN Arms Treaty is ratified as law of the land. It will make Nazi Germany look like YMCA camp! So many good Americans will die protecting the Bill of Rights and the Constitution!

  • red neck

    I have said this once and I will say it again….. People that WORK for a living are outnumbered by people that VOTE for a living….

    • Bill

      Good analogy, Red Neck

    • wavesofgrain

      I remember an article regarding California….only 37% are working, while the rest are retired or on welfare.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        There are 144 million employed in the country.
        There are 316 million people in the country.
        About 20% of those are under work age.
        So about 57% of the population over working age is working.

        • dan

          that’s a good way to figure total employment…
          full time and living wage work ?
          i never had one of those $120,000 a year jobs
          like the politicians and bankers and lawyers pay themselves….lols.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            So what stopped you from aiming to earn that much? There is a tinge of envy and malice to your comment. How about simply judging people on their Individualism instead of this Marxist/Red Collectivist inclusivity.
            The Dems/Progs/Leftists love to use people with your outlook.

          • dan

            sorry…I’m feeling a bit off today…I don’t disparage success (if money is how they keep count) just that
            so many are expected to get by on a fraction of that…
            and no malice meant….it’s just that the demographics
            of Washington DC indicate that the majority of people that earn that type of money are lobbyists and revolving door politicians who are for the most part lawyers..
            Bankers and CEOs (like presidents) tend to be narcissistic and pathological lovers of money and or power. Few have the public servant attitude.
            I went the Jeffersonian/agrarian route and bought a farm
            and stayed small ,self financed and organic…
            milked cows ,home-schooled the boys. Now it’s just me and Milo (German short-haired pointer) living the good life.

        • WTS/JAY

          Makes you wonder what keeps us standing; printing presses?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I should have developed that further because in reality a large number of those jobs are in Government, which is generally negatively productive, that is — they not only don’t produce anything, but they hamper others who would.

        • rbrooks

          how many of those are americans.

          how many are legal immigrants.

          how many are retired. (no longer working yet they generate a revenue.)

          are you certain your 57% is correct?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Flashy says — “how many are retired. (no longer working yet they generate a revenue.)”.
            They generate a revenue? What is that supposed to mean? They pay taxes? They spend money?

      • dan

        beginning to sound like a lot of those working only have part time jobs,too…and how many are McJobs

    • speedle24

      I get the point red neck, but that is not exactly correct. While there are those who “vote for a living”, they still don’t outnumber those of us who work for a living. The problem is there are too many morons who actually work for a living who have no clue about what they are doing when they vote. Put another way, people who pay attention to what is going on around them are out-voted by ignorant people who don’t.

  • skippy

    I wish there was a star for SUPER excellent to check!!!
    This article is so very enlightening, well written and easily understood!!!
    Great job Mr. Boldin!!! Thank you :)
    Now back to the trenches with fresh ammo for them!!!

  • DavidL

    So your recipe is anarchy. Yes, that’s gong to work.

    • WTS/JAY

      Comprehension problems, David? Mr. Boldin is hardly suggesting that we storm the Bastille, silly. No, not even close. What Mr. Boldin is recommending is that we do the responsible thing, by personally getting involved in the political-process and not just to rely on casting our votes and then just sitting back like a bunch of SLUGS hoping big-gorvnment will do the right thing! Getting involved in the political-affairs of your country is the message of the well written article, and not, anarchy!

    • Hey You!

      He did not say that. The implication is that state rights do work.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Okay, so we know that “S___ floats to the top”. And we know that the top has great Power to abuse. So why is it that the absence of Government is so scary? We know that Government is fond of killing people and razing other countries. Why not us, some day? Who protects us from Government?
      We have all been brainwashed to be good little sheeple, so that people like DavidL can be privileged at our expense:
      http://mises.org/daily/1865

    • SSJWZ
    • Nadzieja Batki

      No one is talking about anarchy except you, and you and your Marxist ideologues would just love to have this opportunity if a crisis is created.

  • securityman

    red neck, when the illegals vote and the dead rise up to vote for obummer, then he will still get the votes to swing his way.

  • $36364326

    In a democracy the majority wins! In this democracy the majority has been bought for many generations. Which ever hypocrite politician has the most money and the best strategy for buying votes wins. I have been asking myself “where have these guys come from”? Like mittens romney, barak obama??? With all the well known politicians out there, these guys come from obscurity because they have the backing of the money mongering banksters. Money is what elects politicians in our democracy.

    • dan

      that’s why we were set up as a Republic…so this wouldn’t happen,
      but as stated in the article,provision was made to counter this….
      but we aren’t gonna dislodge the ‘elites’ easily…and voting was the easy way until the politicians and corporations started stacking the deck.

      • $36364326

        The gops need to endorse Rand Paul or Ron Paul if they really want to take a stand. Endorsing another dialed in and over exposed politician like jeb bush is way out of line.

        We need to stack the deck right back with mass numbers who support somebody who will stand for the constitution NOT any ANY sort of church state situation. This country is a protestant nation, no matter what philosophical outlook you have a church run state is not something we ever want, but it seems to be heading in that direction with all the uniting of all the different faiths, this ALWAYS ends bad, do some research on fallen civilizations of the past, they all have a lot in common, especially towards the very end where worship, even by force, was more important than anything.

        • dan

          sorry,we tried that and the blue RINO’s cheated and disenfranchised the big tent (,conservative , swing conservative and conservative libertarian)….
          as long as they let people like Rove call the shots,
          who needs enimies

    • Robbie

      I’m not so sure. Mitt was/is a multi millionaire and was backed by the richest people in the country and he LOST whereas Obama was/is from relatively humble background, had the support of the lower and middle class and WON. Also I recall Steve Forbes – one of the absolute richest men in the country – running for national office and getting wiped out. There are many other examples.

      • $36364326

        I’m referring more to the primaries anyway. Whichever party makes it
        to the elections they are both paid for pretty much by the same
        banksters so they are sure to win every time. Sounds kind of simplified
        but it is what it is. The primaries are the real race. Do we want
        another gop backed, probably another Bush? Just don’t seem right. The
        money is exerted in the right places at the right time and the winner!
        Like barry boy did with the obamaphones. Do you know how much that cost
        the taxpayers?
        To me watching the dems and the reps battle it
        out is like a circus, you kind of know what is going to happen, the
        typical BS, but then every regime has its own surprises. I can see the
        gops heading down the same road again, and check this out, they are
        expecting different results, or maybe they want more of the same
        invasion of privacy etc…

  • just_reality

    As they say with any addiction the first step is to admit to the problem. We have to admit that Washington DC (the district of corruption) is not going to fix anything.

  • dan

    Balkanization might be preferable to being a DC Dictatorship…
    we’re already being divided and conquered with classism and racism….

    bread and circuses ,manipulated by the criminal government….

  • ONTIME

    I am in agreement with the author and Madison, this illegal administration has devoted a inordinate amout of attention to closing down or corrupting any and all means of opposition and is advocating resistance is futile…..what will be will be but to fall sheepishly and deny the Founders creation is really and truly unamerican.
    This agenda of the is now openly hostile to conservatives, there is nothing subtle about it, the refusal to allow free sppech, corrupt elections and deny religious freedoms as well as set up a electronic surveillance system to monitor any and all electronic communication and movement of individuals without reason or warrant. To declare veterans unfit to own or purchase weapons, to steal retail ammo from the shelves with tax money in order to control the purchase of fire ams for rightful use is becoming intolerable, taxation without representation to further the burden of supporting a growing intrusive costly government that has become inept and overbearing ….WTP are losing respect and tolerance for such acts and are willing to sacrifice much to regain our rights and representation…the means to reclaim are blueprinted in the Declaration by our founders and we are aware they are strong words…..

    • michiganminuteman

      Very well put sir.

  • red neck

    Does anyone know if Rand Paul is considering a run in 2016?

    I for one sure as hell hope so but the problem remains that there are just TOO many “FREE” loafers that will continue to vote for their democrat regardless of the destruction of the country along with the dysfunction welfare and police state that the democrats support. And in all fairness the republican party also supports the massive surveillance of ( innocent until proven guilty ) Americans… Or is it now “all are guilty until proven innocent” ?

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      No, the problem is getting him past the status quo Republican Leaders. He would fare no better than his Dad did at the Republican Nomination.

      • red neck

        Yeah… That’s kind of what I was thinking.. So in other words the republican party really has nobody to offer and as I suspected we will probably never see another republican “president” again as if it really matters anyway. Perhaps as I suspect this country will have it’s first “female” president in the form of hilary clinton or michelle obama ( sorry but I refuse to capitalize the names of those in which I have absolutely no respect for ). And if that proves to be the case we all may as well move to China.

      • independent thinker

        Rand would do much better than his dad because Rand shows more passion in his beliefs. Not saying that is enough to get him over the top but he would do better.

        • JeffH

          IT, ” Rand shows more passion in his beliefs.”?
          Unforunately, not many listened to Paul Sr. and his passion for the Constitution, freedom and liberty but rather chose to listen to the MSM and the Republican’s anti-Paul propaganda campaign. He fought for over 30 years and he WAS and still is “the fight” against the Federal Reserve and Big Government, setting the tone for Rand and others like Ted Cruz and Mike Lee to follow in his footsteps. He woke people up and yes, Rand certainly has the passion to stand alone, if neccessary, to fight and make his voice heard.

          No, Ron Paul’s passions should never have been questioned. Rand has something that Ron didn’t have, everyones attention thanks to the passion of Ron Paul and for never giving up…to me, that’s the difference.

          • independent thinker

            Me thinks you miss understand my comment. Perhaps I didn’t state it clearly. Rand is a more dynamic speaker than Ron so his passion is more obvious, you do not have to listen as closely to what he says to see it.

          • JeffH

            IT, I read your comment and I fully understood your comment quite well.

            You said, “…Rand shows more passion in his beliefs”

            I dissagreed…perhaps Rand’s delivery may be better than his dad’s which may make it appear that way but…as for his passion…absolutley no more than his dad.

            Apparently you misunderstand my response.

  • http://www.twitter.com/libertysure mourningdemocracy

    Indeed, the states have abandoned their constitutional responsibility to remain sovereign within the Union, because they allowed the Feds to send them money from the federal treasury.

    The same happened with the churches and marriage. As soon as there were tax implications connected with marriage, marriage became the property of the government.

    There is one thing that is at the root of politics that is its Achilles Heel: deception to get elected and remain in office. If we hold politicians accountable, brutally accountable — which means zero tolerance for violations — they will have to be upfront with the campaign promises, they will have to obey their oaths of office, and they will have to conduct their lives in a manner that they do not embarrass their constituents.

    That will take care of liberals right there and the “scum” will be thrown out in their first term. No living organism can survive without a manner of discarding its waste; ditto for political systems.

    I write about a manner in which to hold politicians accountable in my website:
    http://www.americanuniverse.net/articles/20130722.aspx
    Yes, states’ rights should be fully restored, but we don’t have to vote bums into office in the first place, either.

  • q

    $700 a month to live on is just enough to eat. The market has killed me twice and now I am 62 and dependat on government handouts. I still have guns so I do not vote for
    Democrats

    • Doc Sarvis

      Thank goodness for those government handouts that the Democrats have fought hard for you to use. Nobody is coming for your guns by the way.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Doc is proud of being in the Society of Criminals:
        http://mises.org/daily/4125

        • rbrooks

          the problem is not redistribution of wealth. even tho redistribution is a failure

          the problem is the distribution of created wealth.

          until you resolve the way created wealth is distributed you will never stop the redistribution of wealth.

          do you get a cut of sales from the mises site?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Do they still pay you for your nonsense, Flashy?

          • rbrooks

            millions per day. more than you, bob or old mr successful entrepreneur. combined.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            All of it on the government dole and at the expense of the taxpayers. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “The battleline between good and evil runs throught the heart of every man.”
            Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

          • Nadzieja Batki

            The problem is the redistribution of wealth. You can call it anything you like but it is still THEFT.

          • rbrooks

            the same can be said of the distribution of created wealth.

            it is theft and the main reason our economy is failing.

      • hungry4food

        DOC get ready to see those GOV handouts dry up !!!!! This guy is a Neutral analyst . Hes talking straight up on this
        market rebound and he says its Crap !!!

        An unstable recovery built on debt

        http://money.msn.com/investing/an-unstable-recovery-built-on-debt

        Don’t be fooled by the huge
        run in the US stock market and the rebound in the housing market. The financial
        crisis never really ended, and its effects continue to roil the global economy.

        You can Only use other peoples money and resources until all runs out
        and thats what has been going on now for 18 years since the full
        enactment of the WTO Free Trade Agreement thats Ran a Trade Deficit for
        its full time and the Counter funding of this unbalanced debt has been
        the Peoples Treasury and Personal DEBT as wages have been stagnate this
        whole time but Cost of Living has more than Tripled !!!! And not just here but all around the world .

        A Large Pizza costs 30 BUCKS in Brazil !!!!!

        http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/23/world/americas/prices-fuel-outrage-in-brazil-home-of-the-30-cheese-pizza.html?hp&_r=0

        What do you think brought on the Arab Spring ?? Food Costs soaring man …… http://www.seeddaily.com/reports/Russia_to_considerably_cut_grain_exports_amid_drought_999.html

        DOC why do you think they threw Mursi out of office ,,, Food man , this whole breakdown in the world economy is because the evolving food crisis !!!! http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/04/19/us-russia-egypt-grain-exports-idUKBRE93I14H20130419

        • timduck

          As to the food problems/crisis: Have you noticed Monsanto, Bayer, and a few others quietly cornering and monopolizing the world’s food supply? Oil/energy is required for society as we know it. Food is necessary for life!

      • michiganminuteman

        If you don’t think the fed is coming for our guns then apparently you don’t pay very close attention or you are just a stupid lib. Most likely both. Try getting your head out of obama’s arse.

  • WTS/JAY

    Why Democrats Love To Spy On Americans -by Michael Hastings (remember him?)

    Besides Senators Ron Wyden and Mark Udall, most Democrats abandoned their civil liberty positions during the age of Obama. With a new leak investigation looming, the Democrat leadership are now being forced to confront all the secrets they’ve tried to hide…

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/why-democrats-love-to-spy-on-americans

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    Here is a video about Sheriff Joe and the ID fraud of Obama bin Laden.
    http://www.westernjournalism.com/sheriff-joe-personally-calling-receptive-congressman-on-obama-id-fraud/
    Here is one showing the NAACP has blacklisted a very intelligent lady from speaking at one of their gatherings. Why? Because she is conservative.
    http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/07/black-conservative-deneen-borelli-blacklisted-from-naacp-convention/
    Here is an article showing that Obama bin Laden was registered at a school in Indonesia under the name Barry Soetoro.
    http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/barry-soetoro-registered-to-vote-in-d-c/
    So it seems the pretender in the White House is not just a liar, but not even an American citizen. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
    You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
    “Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.”
    Benjamin Franklin
    Founding father
    Devout Christian

  • Ibn Insha

    Politicians’ principles reflect the principles of the nation that is why throwing the bum out does not work because you are electing from the same pool of people. For example, every American complains that Federal Government is spending too much but when you ask them which program to eliminate or curtail the say, “Not my freebies.” Every American complains about government’s assault on privacy but the same would give up their liberty in the blink of an eye if faced with a danger. As a matter of fact we have tens of thousands of laws that allow government at every level to gather information about its citizens without a warrant and we take those laws for granted because we don’t even know the long term consequences of those laws and allowed those laws to be passed. What does that tell you about us as a nation.

    • Motov

      Obviously, People need to perform research of our nation’s past. Instead of just accepting the B.S. “History” taught in (Liberal) public school. More often than not it actually serves more of day care facility than anything else. Students are no longer taught critical thinking, instead they are taught how to regurgitate, whatever the teacher tells them. They are bombarded with liberal ideals, and need true conservative teaching so they can process the information in a more rounded way.

      • John Stratemeyer

        Education today is really “indoctrination.” There is only one way to change that. Stop funding public education. Privatize the system and get the Teacher’s Unions out of it. Make schools compete for students with low tuition, more challenging curriculums, better and more dedicated teachers.

        • Motov

          Are you also stating the students may get better education because parents might wish to see their kids get “the most for their money” and take active roles in their child’s education? Or those kids who are only there to disrupt classrooms may find themselves outside the classroom or even expelled, because teachers do not have the time to waste “babysitting those with short attention spans”? Perhaps getting local companies to contribute what they require their employees to know in order to be employed by them?
          Imagine people actually getting educated with the proper tools they’ll need to be successful in life, instead of filled with fantasy that Government will somehow show them the path to succeed,…..

          • John Stratemeyer

            I’m saying that the public education system that’s run by the Teacher’s Unions is a waste of time, money, and leaves students unprepared for life if they graduate at all. I’m saying make it private. Hire teachers whose priority is actually to teach students to take pride in good grades and who will work to help students to achieve them, not just collect a union paycheck and benefits.
            Return to a more traditional curriculum. Kids should learn basic arithmetic and the multiplication tables before they have computer skills. History should be a relation of the facts as they happened, not as some silly revisionist sees the facts, or thinks he does. Communications skills are vital. Teach the English language as it’s supposed to be spoken! Kids today can’t even diagram a sentence. They couldn’t tell you what “diagram a sentence” means!
            Teach basic Civics, for God’s sake! We learned it in 1st grade. Yes, it was boring, but the lessons stayed with us all our lives. The subject matter was not beyond us. Civics provides a link to American History. It helps to flesh out the story and instills pride in the fact that you are an American. It fostered an understanding in all of us that the US Government is there to serve and protect us, not turn us into serfs. Or slaves.
            If parents have to spend their own money to educate their children, they’ll be a lot more interested in where their money is going. They’ll be far more interested in knowing what they’re learning, and how they behave themselves. If their kids don’t want to behave, bring back Reform school and let them pay for that!

          • Motov

            I’m so in agreement with this, You are right, most kids do not know an adverb from a verb, or how to deal with fractions. For example, I once worked in a metal factory where I made keyways in parts. Can anyone tell me what .1875 equals to? It is a common measurement used daily. I also think kids need to learn how to do basic math functions without a calculator.

            My mother at the time I was in elementary school, often volunteered her time in the school. I had a short leash, I wasn’t a troublemaker because of that fact.

            I never had a problem with “silly things” like the pledge of allegiance, or observing a moment of silence.

            My biggest problems were from those students who felt it was necessary to make other students lives a living hell.

          • John Stratemeyer

            I know kids who couldn’t tell you a single fact about George Washington except that he was an “evil man” who owned slaves. There was one neighborhood kid who didn’t know that the President of the US is limited to two terms. There are college grads who can’t read a newspaper, let alone a basic contract. What’s taught in taxpayer-funded public schools is a travesty.

          • Motov

            I think that crap started when the Liberals got a bug up their behinds about “self esteem” being more important than actually learning material.
            When I had the “fun” of training new people on jobs I was amazed how much “baby sitting” was required to make sure they did the job right.
            What amazed me more was they felt they deserved all the gravy jobs, and to be paid as much as experienced people.

          • John Stratemeyer

            The hilarious attempt to put “ebonics” on equal footing with the English language was my favorite.

  • patriot156

    Alls Well when your prominate or have the money and know how but ain’t worth crap when your poor white trash or on the ground being beaten.

  • John Stratemeyer

    Sounds good. But try to convince even one elected official of the “One Party, Nanny State,” the Union of liberal/socialist/Democratic Counties (ULSDC) that you know as Maryland, that anything that the Federal Government does, or has done, or proposes to do is a bad idea. When LSD wingnut Martin O’Malley was running for governor, he stood in front of the cameras and, in no words uncertain, told ULSDC voters that he would raise state taxes. They voted for him anyway. Not only does the ULSDC leadership believe that throwing more and more taxpayer money at unworkable LSD program after unworkable LSD program, the voters think so too.
    The only way to beat unworkable LSD “ideas” is to present real ideas that actually work. Like Free Enterprise, for instance. Or securing the borders. The Republicans are either unwilling, or don’t know how to communicate it, and they’re afraid that the LSDs will call them names in any case. They don’t try even when they have a candidate who knows how to get the point across. Just look at Mitt Romney’s failed campaign and it’s easy to see the reason that he lost. He didn’t go into specifics of his “5-point plan.” Mr. Obama’s sorry economic record was there to be picked apart. All Mr. Romney had to do was talk about how he would put 23 million unemployed Americans back to work. He could have talked for hours on end about energy independence alone. Yet, he trusted the media to do it for him or left it up to the imaginations of the voters to fill in the blanks.
    In the ULSDC, I doubt that enough voters would listen in any case. I’m convinced that most voters in the ULSDC vote along family lines, i.e, Mommy and Daddy voted for Democrats, as did their Mommy and Daddy, and theirs before them. They cannot, or will not hear that the LSD party of today is not the same Democratic Party that they grew up with.

    • Dr Moon

      Mostly true, but this isn’t the case in numerous other States where bucking the Feds is encouraged. In Texas we need to work on reducing the shackles the Feds have on us by passing anti Fed legislation on gun control, we should ignore the EPA and run our refineries as we please. Coal States should keep producing more and more coal if the Federal Government doesn’t want it, there are many States that do. The States could start by ignoring any or all of the thousands of ridiculous regulations Obama has illegally passed by EO. All States should refuse to abide by any executive order from Obama an illegal president.

      • John Stratemeyer

        Sadly, in Maryland, the voters wouldn’t go along with “bucking the Feds.” Ever. I had a conversation with a liberal/socialist/Democrat (LSD) voter many years ago. Bill Clinton was running for reelection. The man agreed with me point for point, time after time. Then he said, “I know you’re right, and I should vote Republican. But I’m a blue-dog Democrat, just like Mom and Dad, and just can’t bring myself to do it.” It was a stunning admission. A statement memorable for its boundless stupidity if nothing else, but typical of Maryland voters.

  • chrisnj

    Michael Boldin and his Tenth Amendment Center are doing great work with very few resources. They are one of the few organizations really pushing back against the rampant undermining of limited government and constitutional principles. They deserve our greater support for their work.

    I have joined. Thanks to the Obama economy I can’t contribute what I would like to but there are others who can. I hope they will. In the meantime I follow Michael’s work and writings with great interest, and look for opportunities in my own circles to push the TAC message forward.

  • trugrits

    Get on a jury to vote against unlawful arrests?– NDAA no trials, no peers, no rights, no juries.
    States go against illegal unconstitutional laws?– Fed withholds Federal funds till states comply. Fed declares states actions unconstitutional.

    It is like getting charged to play the game but then only being the bat boy on the sidelines. They are making sure they have all the bases covered. The base judges are Feds- you are out before you even get to touch base. You will never get a home run since they keep moving the line to an unreachable goal.

    I agree 100% that we will never vote out corruption. When an elect gets over 100% of the available area voters then we know voting is a sham. Like even if it wasn’t corrupt we still are left with our choice is still between two evils. Our choice who we can vote for was long decided before any primaries voted. Who has the most money backing them is the winner.

    People think by use of guns they will defeat the government. Has anyone looked at the weaponry the government has? We can’t win a change with guns when we are outgunned in every way. You have a gun with 25 rounds,they have 25 people with 25 rounds in each gun. Their weaponry makes our guns look like black powder muskets. They don’t even need throw bullets at us.

    Probably the only way to defeat them is just refuse their owning us. Take us all to jail? I don’t know but they might have an answer for that also. Speaking of owning watch how 2014 unaffordable care will own everything and everyone. There will be nothing about it more affordable. You will be fined because you are to poor to afford the so called affordable care. You didn’t have health insurance because it wasn’t affordable in your budget. Now you will at least pay a fine for being to poor. Getting an IRS refund will probably be gone for most people. So pay a fine and still not have even a bandaid. This not being repealed is proof positive we have nobody on our side that will bat for us. If during the end of 2013 all hell doesn’t break loose then it will in 2014.

    You want to know what is going on then check out the Rothchild family history and see history being repeated right now. Your eyes might just really see what is going on.

    • Jeffrey T

      You seem to forget that alot of Military units wont follow illegal orders & will join the civilians! So yeah it maybe an unfair fight at the start but alot of Military are not happy with POTUS & will tell him to stick it up his azx also look at the states with the biggest bases! DOWN SOUTH! Also where the Natl guard bases. Can you see him ordering the Gov of texas to call out their guard units?? And other southen states becauae THIS TIME! Southern states have the bigger military option! What does the NE states have in guard & active units?? NADA! trust me just lat week I chatted with a guy ( Active duty) & hes NOT HAPPY nor are alot of other guys. Thats why Obama had DHS buy more ammo than the active duty military. He even stated he wanted a police force as powerful as the US military though DHS is worfully underpowered than the US military they still have MWRAPS but those are rolling coffins if you kbow how to take em out. Lets just hope it doesnt come to that. But voting no longer works becauae of the false reporting by MSM

  • Jeffrey T

    Obama is nothing but a glorified BS artist doing THE ONLY THING HES QUALIFIED TO DO! Run his lying mouth. Which is all he did before he got elected