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Virginia’s Challenge Of Healthcare Reform Law Moves Forward

August 6, 2010 by  

Virginia's challenge of healthcare reform law moves forward Critics of Federal healthcare reform won a small battle in Virginia on Monday when a United States District Court judge refused to dismiss a lawsuit that challenges the constitutionality of the recently passed measure.

The lawsuit—which was filed by Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli soon after Congress passed the legislation—argues that the Federal government does not have the authority to require Americans to pay a penalty if they refuse to purchase health insurance, according to The Associated Press (AP).

In his ruling, Judge Henry Hudson dismissed the Obama administration’s attempt to squash the lawsuit, suggesting that the law may violate the Commerce Clause of the Constitution.

"Unquestionably, this regulation radically changes the landscape of health insurance coverage in America," Hudson wrote in his 32-page ruling.

"While this case raises a host of complex constitutional issues, all seem to distill to the single question of whether or not Congress has the power to regulate—and tax—a citizen’s decision not to participate in interstate commerce," he added.

Hudson’s ruling suggests that the Obama administration may be in for several long and expensive legal battles, as Virginia is one of many states to file a lawsuit against the Federal government after healthcare reform legislation was passed.

A second hearing on the case has been tentatively scheduled for later this year.
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  • s c

    Go, Virginia! Go, America! Never back down from thse tyrants. It’s freedom or slavery, and there is no middle ground.

    • http://naver Samurai

      Hey s.c., we are taking back ground in Missouri also. The people voted 71%-29% for something called proposition 8. This means that if someone doesn’t want to have the Osamacare policy, the state cannot level fines against them. Another victory agains Obama bin Laden, libs, dems, bleeding hearts, and FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • TIME

      SC,
      I agree with you 100%, I say where are the other 48 states, as in whats taking them so bloody long to graps the issue.

      Lets clean this mess up and rid ourselfs of all the progressive Marxist ASAP, as in once and for all.

      • http://naver Samurai

        100% agree! Keep up the good fight! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • http://none Jonathan

        There are many disguised Marxist issues in our American political structure.
        Problem is;
        We can defend ourselves against evil, UnAmerican actions done in the name of Bad,
        but we have little or no defense, against Bad things done in the name of Good!

  • s c

    What matters is that neither a state nor the retards in Washington have any right to TAX people who don’t want to suffer the outrage of being TAXED for NOT having something they DON”T WANT. NO legitinate government has the right to FORCE people to BUY something they DO NOT WANT!

    • Norm

      s c
      The problem is that these people who “don’t want” health insurance wind up on the public nickel when they get sick. Or else they get “free” medical care, at hospitals, that is paid for by the insured.
      As a taxpayer and a fully insured individual, my freedoms are being violated by these free loaders.

      • s c

        N, I am referring to people who want NO part of Herr Obummer’s healthcare SCAM (most Americans, that is).
        Kindly do not put words in my mouth, and I’ll try not to put words in yours. It’s not my fault that English is a dying language.

        • Norm

          s c
          What’s your point. We know what they don’t want. What is it they do want?
          We could have had a much better law if the party of no actually participated in formulating it.

          • sylviaM

            It is LIBERTY they want, The GOVERNMENT, does NOT have the power to MAKE a person BUY any thing that they choose not to buy. The GOV. is trying to sell INSURANCE on their terms NOT OURS. If YOU WANT THE GOV. TO RUN YOUR LIFE GO AHEAD & COMPLY, JUST DON’T ASK US TO DO AS YOU DO. God Bless AMERICA and our LIBERTY

          • http://naver Samurai

            Abnorm, do me a favor and read what has happened in Virginia and Missouri dealing with Osamacare. Be warned, you’ll probably get very upset.

          • http://none Jonathan

            They want FREE Socialist Medical Benefits – like they have in Socialist Republics.
            They are just refusing to pay their fair share of the expense of Free Health care.
            They want others to pay for it!
            Socialized Medicine is a poor way to dispel health care for everybody – how about health care costs, paid by everybody?
            To a degree, we have Medicare & Medicaid and it serves us all, well.

      • Palin12

        Norm
        I still have not heard any explanations from the progressives as to why during the primary election of 2008, Obama told Hillary that the difference between their 2 health plans was that hers carried the individual mandate, and that his did not. There is a ton of documentation on YouTube. Suddenly, after his inaugeration, Obama switched to Clinton’s position.

        • Norm

          Without a mandate the system can’t work. The freeloaders simply won’t participate. Even Mitt Romney’s Mass. “Romneycare” has a mandate. Incidentally, it was supported by Waterloo Demint.

          • Palin12

            You didn’t answer the question. Why was Obama opposed to the mandate during the democratic primary in 2008?

          • Palin12

            And I suppose you think the gangbangers, who have never held a job, will participate? And the muslims are exempt because it’s some form of gambling, huh???

        • Palin12

          See what I mean? Still no explanations from the progressives as to why Obama was opposed to the individual mandate during the 2008 democrat primary.

      • Craig

        “The problem is that these people who “don’t want” health insurance wind up on the public nickel when they get sick. Or else they get “free” medical care, at hospitals, that is paid for by the insured.”

        I call bull pucky. As with any other liberal they make up the fantasy worlds that never come true. I’d love to see PROOF that people who opt for not getting insurance do what you say the will. I’m betting the reality is far different that what you fantasize about.

        I do not have health insurance. And if I get sick I will pay out of my pocket. If my bill is more than I can afford I will work out a payment plan with the hospital. Or sell my house if need be.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Norm,
          do you HONESTLY believe that ALL those people that voted against Nobamas forced care only did so because they didn’t want insurance?!?!?!? What the heck have you been drinking AND smoking???

          • Norm

            Joe H.
            You tell me Joe. Why did they vote against it?
            I was for it, and I and my wife already have excellent medical coverage.
            When the richest country in the world(we like to think)has by all standards a worse healthcare system than Cuba and most of the world, it’s truely sad.

          • Craig

            Norm you drink lot of koolaid do ya? Our health care is second to none. Cuba has nothing on ours. Do not buy into the lies the libs spew.

        • Norm

          Craig
          There are plenty of statistics available. Look them up.

          • Craig

            Statistics that say the majority of those opting for not having forced health care will run into emergency rooms and not pay? Are you high? liberal koolaid is bad for you.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            norm,
            Stop and think. do ANY of those that voted against it have insurance they are happy with and like the coverage they have???? I know my wife and I do!! Yes, there are some that don’t want coverage, hell there are people out there that are making 65,000 a year that won’t get it! That doesn’t mean that everyone is like them. I can go to any dr. I want and I don’t need a referal to see a specialist! The absolute most I pay is 20% if I go off plan, but why would I when I like most of the Drs on plan? I don’t care if you think the Government will take care of you or not. DON’T MESS WITH MY FAMILYS LIVES!!! Instead, go out and get coverage of your own!!

      • http://naver Samurai

        Norm, why are you so far off target? The ones you usually want this kind of health care are the freeloaders of our society. We should abollish the self destructive welfare state and remind them that our country was built and preserved by people who refused to do these things. You’re not entitled to anything you don’t earn! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Norm

          Samurai
          People who BUY insurance through government or the private sector are not freeloaders. The uninsured with little or no money (most uninsured) are the peeople who game the system. Doctors and hospitables need to be paid. When some people can’t or won’t pay, every one else picks up the slack. Next time you use the medical system check out the ridiculously inflated charges.

          • http://naver Samurai

            Abnorm, abnorm, abnorm, you are part right. Insurance in one reason for higher costs, but it isn’t the only reason. One reason why insurance rates keep going up is because when someone uses insurance to pay the hospital, the company wants its money back. Sadly to say that I’ve know people who lie about their health to get insurance, don’t pay back what they owe, etc. These are the real reasons why insurance has gone up a lot since 1980. It’s the individual’s responsibility to pay back the insurance company as a mature, reliable, responsible, and rational adult is supposed to do. Just using it, dropping it, and leave the company holding the bag is not a choice.

  • Norm

    Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli, speaking of a case aimed at stopping national health-care reform, declared, “This lawsuit is not about health care. It’s about our freedom.”
    He isn’t the first to say so. Last month, at a debate among attorney general candidates in Florida, Republican contender Jeff Kottkamp said of a similar case there, “This lawsuit’s not about health care,” the St. Petersburg Times reported. “This lawsuit’s about freedom,”
    They are both wrong. It’s about politics. It’s so obviously about politics that most folks take that fact for granted.
    These cases are another way for Republicans to try to defeat a Democratic initiative and score points while doing it. Notice that 18 of the 20 attorneys general suing in Florida are Republicans.
    Virginia’s top lawyer is a standout among health-care opponents because he rushed to the courthouse to file his case first instead of joining the crowd about to file in Florida. Cuccinelli got the spotlight all to himself this week when a judge in Richmond gave Virginia a preliminary victory.
    These cases can’t be just about health care, because that’s a policy matter for lawmakers to decide, not judges. There is a certain legitimacy to the White House’s complaint that, having lost legislatively, opponents are asking unelected judges to step in.
    But if these cases were about health care, someone might point out that more than 1 million Virginians, or 15 percent under the age of 65, have no medical insurance, a figure that keeps growing.
    A witness might testify that starting next month insurers will be barred from denying sick children coverage under a provision that takes effect Sept. 23.

    • Bear

      Sorry Norm, I don’t agree with you. In fact, I believe YOU are wrong. If you can’t see that this health care reform crap IS about our freedom of choice, then you too must have been born in Kenya. Anytime the Federal government, which was formed by the states for the protection and welfare of the states, starts dictating to the people of those states what they can and cannot do, what they will buy and what they will not buy and the retribution they will suffer for non-compliance, then those states and the people of those states are no longer free people. They become subjects who are controlled by the judgements of that government. Can you NOT see that? Our pledge of allegiance states, “and to the Republic for which it stands.” It deos not say anything about a democracy, or any other form of government. You better look up the definition of a “Republic” and a “Democracy” and then look up and understand what a Marxist State a Socialist State and a Communist State are all about. Once YOU understand, then you will be better informed to air your ideas and opinions. One thing more, get off the Republican/Democrat wagon. That one is long dead. Both parties have been aligned with the same agendas. The only difference is that the Democrats have moved forward with them more agressively than the Republicans. What we need is REAL Americans who will fight for the rights and freedoms of all Americans and we need ALL Americans to understand that not all Americans are alike and as such have different wants and needs. Entitlements are NOT a part of those needs but has taken center stage for a lot of American’s wants. SPREAD MY WORK ETHICS, NOT MY WEALTH. No one has a right to take from me that which I have earned from the sweat of my brow and the desire I have to be more than common.

      • slickporsche

        I will stand beside Bear on this one.

      • BritCapitalist

        Bear is correct; I fled British socialism in 1981 and I am now looking at an old movie re-run; there is nowhere to go if the USA continues to go down this socialist road. If a socialist/marxist coup can be thwarted anywhere in the world (it would be a first) it is here in the U.S.A because I am convinced that true Americans will never give up their freedom. Freedom is fused in their DNA and this attempted takeover will be reversed in November if we all stay vigilant. Take the names of those Republican Rhinos who supported Kagan’s nomination. It will not be long before the Constitution will be challenged and ultimately invalidated (the endgame) by a Sotomayor/Kagan coalition, which is why Barry Soetoro has no fear regarding his eligibility issue. The $2M plus he has gladly paid to attorneys to stave off all legitimate challenges to said issue has bought his handlers enough time to put the chess pieces in place before they are finally forced to confront Lt. Col Lakin, et al, in court. Obamacare is ONLY about controlling the masses. The American people need a real conservative leader with the guts to stop this socialist takeover. We need nothing less than the equivalent of a Winston Churchill – in my opinion ————–right NOW! Socialism sucks and has never worked for the “masses” at anytime, anywhere in the world; it is only a tool for the elite to seize control of the people under the guise of “equitability” or “sharing the wealth”.

        • TIME

          Hey Brit,

          Great post dude!

          • TIME

            I fortgot to add we have a mass of real “bloody wankers” over here as you may have already noted by the ignorant post from them as you can see.

            Oddly of what most have never left mommies basement.

        • Norm

          BritCapitalist
          They have drugs for paranoia. The US is a long way from socialism, and the US is not Britain.

          • http://none Jonathan

            America was Socialist enough, before Socialism made Barak Hussein Obama President.

    • Craig

      It is about freedom of choice for me. I will not allow the government to force me to buy anything I do not want or need. I will not be a party to an unconstitutional law. If I go along with this law, then I am advocating breaking the supreme law of the land. I cannot and I will not.

      • Norm

        Craig
        Do you drive a car? Do you have car insurance? It’s a damn good law.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Norm,
          I have a choice to not drive if I don’t want to! I don’t have the right to not buy health insurance if this plan goes into effect! and don’t tell me I have a right to not get sick! Thats just bull!

        • Craig

          Norm you do not know that driving is a privilege and with getting to exercise these privileges you must abide by rules? One rule is you must have insurance that protects others. Health insurance protects me, not others. These 2 types of insurance are not analogous. If I do not want auto insurance I do not have to drive. With Oidiots unconstitutional mandated health insurance, I cannot opt out.

          • Norm

            Craig
            You having health insurance does protect me. If you have a million $ set aside to cover health expenses then you’re probably OK. But most people don’t.
            Let me repeat:
            When people get “free” medical care because they have no money and no insurance, or they just refuse to pay, then the insured and self-payers pay their bill. Medical providers raise prices to the payers (I am one), and insurance companies kick up premiums.
            Until we start throwing non payers out in the street, that’s the way it works.

          • Craig

            Norm my health insurance does not protect you. I pay my own way, whether I have insurance or not. The gov does not have the authority to force me to buy anything. Get over it.

    • http://naver Samurai

      If this is true abnorm, then why did the case make it through federal court? Why did the judge rule that “Osamacare” has many Constitutional issues and shouldn’t be placed upon the people. You know, choice, 10th Amendment, etc.? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Norm

        Samurai
        It’s a long process that’s far from over. You can get a judge, if you look hard enough, that’ll say anything you want.
        By the way is that your idea of freedom, letting an unelected judge overturn laws enacted by a majority ib congress?

        • Palin12

          Norm, you must be talking about that gay unelected judge in california that overthrew the will of the majority of that state’s citizens in overturning prop 8! Yeah, talk about looking for a sympathetic judge. It works both ways.

        • http://naver Samurai

          Sorry abnorm, though you are right about him not being elected (Fed judges are appointed by the government), what does this have to do with the issue? Since the judge was appointed, he may not have a political party to answer to. It’s also a fact that some judges know the Constitution better than others. Just look at Kagan and others, do you think they are the same as far as who they answer to?

          • http://none Jonathan

            Wait until Elena Kagan starts changing rules of Law to benefit the Homosexual Community. Obama does not care, all he wants is the Socialist Democratic votes. And we know that she is going to rubber stamp anything Obama wants.

          • http://naver Samurai

            I agree with you whole heartedly there Jonathan.

  • http://aol Chuck

    Norm, Norm, Norm. Do you actually think that “free loaders” will be impacted by Obamacare? No poor,illegals, Amish, Muslims, Christian Scientists or other religion based objection group will be forced to carry the mandated insurance.
    This “affects me” mentality is the root cause for most of these creeping Marxist laws and decisions that continue to eat up our individual freedoms. The condition of your property affects my property value so I have a rigt to force you to comply with home value standards. If you get injured not wearing a seat belt, my insurance rates go up so I have the right to make you wear a seat belt, maybe even a fire suit and crash helmet. Your vehicle is too big and uses too much gas, polluting the environment and using up resources which endangers my tin can green vehicle and costs more for depleted resources so I have the right to mandate greater general fuel efficiency standards or lose weight so that you can fit into a smaller vehicle. See how it works, Norm. What about you Nor? Surely there is something that you do that impacts the rest of us. Maybe a little over-weight? Health problems? Drink bottled water and clog up the land fills? Or even worse, your kids or grand kids use those nasty disposable diapers? I know! You breath out that vile carbon dioxide! Bad for our environment. Bad, Norm, Bad!

    • slickporsche

      Yes Norm will be required to wear a rebreather, because he is out of shape,older,or a smoker and exhales more carbon dioxide. Hell Norm it is only $10.99/day.

      • RicSeag

        So slick… When the microphone plant in you neighborhood dumps heavy metals and acids on the fields behind their plant, and those toxins find their way into your well, spoiling you property and forcing you to abandon it, that’s simply freedom ringing? Right?

        There’s a reason why regulations exist. They usually come when one person’s freedom becomes another person’s burden.

        • slickporsche

          YES and most of the time they get really carried away with it and go way to far. I could site instances up the ying yang, but you would not agree anyway because you are probably one of people that like to force the rest of us to bend to your ways. right or wrong. The great cop mentality.

          • Norm

            slickporsche

            We have seen the results of a “free” banking system, an “unregulated” energy production segment, and tax breaks for and no regulation on companies that export jobs.
            For profit companies need some limited regulation to balance their aggressive drive to make profits. I own stocks and I am all for profits, but some times things get out of hand

          • Craig

            Norm if you think those businesses are unregulated you have no clue about what you are talking about.

        • Norm

          Craig
          If you think that the government was behind the “lend money to anyone” policy that nearly took this country down and cost us taxpayers dearly, than it is you that are delusional.
          In fact most of your comments are right out of the Rush playbook.

          • http://none Jonathan

            Craig & Norm
            Explanation to clear the air;
            First of all it was President Bill Clinton in 1993 who first forced Banking institutions to lend money and approve Mortgage Loans to people who were (by the Banks knowledge) “not qualified” for them.
            He did it because heretofore poor Hispanic, Whites and Blacks were being denied Mortgage Loans for Homes etcetera. He of course, used the racial discrimination angle. When Clinton did this in 1993 I immediately knew that the present 2009 financial catastrophe was going to occur. Simple arithmetic!

  • slickporsche

    The condition of your property affects my property value so I have a right to force you to comply with home value standards. This is already a problem in Wisconsin and Minnesota. Some communities in Wisconsin have become so brave and strict they go after 80 year old ladies who only have SS and a little savings. I know of several elderly people that were forced by the city to reside their house (it was not that bad), and use all of their savings. Then they end up losing their home, because they cannot keep up with the other expenses, or cannot eat, so the state takes their house and puts them in a nursing home. A good friend of mine graduated from the UW system, with a degree in Environmental & public health. He then aquired a job in Minnesota and worked for I think about 2years, before he quit. He told me they were requiring him to do things to people, and force them to do things, that were totally unreasonable and sometimes devastating to them financially. I call these ordinances and laws (personal preference) laws. If it does not meet the preference of the people in power you need to bend to their ways. I could go on and tell you things that would cause your blood to boil.I personally have had enough of this freedom grabbing government, and want a real and bloody revolution. That would settle it once and for all.Then I go into inspections one day to ask a question, and all the inspectors had red lettered signs on there desk, that read:TOTAL CONTROL

  • slickporsche

    RicSeag this is one of the reasons that mfg’s moved off shore. Unreasonable and elaborate laws that are very difficult to adhere to.I did say unreasonable. There is definitly a need for some of this, but at this point in time, the US is so over regulated, it is pathetic. WE have become so damn arrogant in this country, that this mentality I speak of starts at the bottom, and goes all the way to the top. We go all over the world and tell people, that WE NO WHATS BEST FOR YOU AND YOU WILL CHANGE. Pay attention man,and look around you. Who are you to tell me anything. Really! Like he attorney, that moved between two pig farms in the county and got them shut down!!! What kind of crap is that?? You know its there before you buy the land very cheap, and then you do this.Fking crook. Oh and by the way, I can drive right up to the door of either place to prove it. Before she died, my 89 year old mother said, this is not America anymore, not with all these communists running the place. I have to agree with her.

    • RicSeag

      Well slicky…. If your claim is that industry is leaving because people got upset with Superfund sites in their backyards, the Grand Calumet River igniting, Lake Erie dying and other environmental catastrophes, then I guess you are right. Now they can dump those toxins in the Yellow River with impunity.

      What’s sad is that saps like you keep drinking the Kool-aid and believing that some “invisible hand” is gonna somehow stop companies from putting profits before the health and welfare of neighbors or workers. They won’t. The truth is as slickster states – corporations would sooner move to China than treat the environment with respect.

      • RicSeag

        There would be no need for regulation were it not for irresponsibility. The rules always follow the need for the rules.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        RicSeag,
        Actually, Lake Erie is cleaner in the last 40 years than it was 140 years ago!! there was this thing call logging that put Murcury into the water, contaminating the fish!! then, there was this other thing called phosphates that have been banned from detergents and people washed their clothes in!!! Actually, Erie is too clear now!! Causing the phytoplankton to die!! Careful what you wish for, it might happen.

  • http://gmail i41

    slickpourche, in the late 70′s when we were fighting our way out of the Simple Peant Carter’screw ups, and to have a job you almost had to pay to be hired. Several of the eleitist council members and the mayor in a city I lived in. Dreamed up and tried to enforce a b–l s–t plan
    to force people to abide by their houses being painted a certain color and sidewalks had to be replaced if there was a crack on a corner slab even if had been driven over by a city loader. I and another person started taking pictures and driving around inspecting council’s property and waited for the third approval meeting before confronting them at the meeting. It never passed, and was tried 12 years later, when I returned from another state and bought 320 acres of ag land that was for sale. The county commissioners of the largest city decided to create a commission to check fences and require all owners to store all equipment and vehicles inside sheds. It went on for over 2 years before the created commison members and the sheriff decided to go hassle a ranchers building a shed on his land. He had his gate secured and locked going up on his private property. The road only went to his house and wasn’t a public road, the sheriff cut the lock and open the gater, the party of dogooders drove up and proceeded to tell him he didn’t get permits, he built with out county approvaland kept rattling on. He had his son pass him up a 30-30 to loader bucket. After chambering a round, he told them to vacate his property, they kept blabbing and after touching offa round, he told them to leave, and the sheriff wouldn’t leave and was threating arrest, until the owner stated he had a private road with a locked gate secured by a chain and lock.After another round beside the vehicle about 5 ft. away everyone departed and the power grab by the county ended. Also no charges were ever filed. That is why I will not purchase property with convents or live in states with impedements on
    private property. I have bought land where certain people have leased or bought property,that will not let a land owner have access to his track of land. Every square mile has a 66′ foot wide access strip of land for public engress and egress. When political dinks try to stop people from using their personal choice of their freedoms. A little hardball is needed. Same goes for healthcare crap or gun ownership. Ever meet a marxist democrat in office that isn’t trying to take your personal freedoms away, and it will take some guts and you don’t need a leech lawyer to plead you rights. Sometime a few knuckle bumps and black eyes helps drive the points of government over reach can be stopped. People need to stop the airl fairy we can just have tea and talk crap, sooner or later action is required and I hopeUSA citizens will begin to dismantle the dreamed up social engineering failures.

  • http://gmail i41

    RicSeag, regulations are just another way to create government control. When the hired wonkish educated dip s–ts have never done a damned thing in life, except follow a hand book and dream up more solution for imaginary problems. The oil spill proves what a worthless bunch of overeducated dumb asses that are in office and departments that there that waste money and couldn’t solve a problem but sat on their rears. Bet you buy into the global warming phony stats and think it is man made too and think cap and trade is a brillant dream. One thing about all marxist democrats, they are a double walled vessel for putting a lying media rear quick coupler in for a high pressure direct connection to crap. Since there is nothing as far a mental reasoning of facts,the intake will never over whelm the holding capicity of the container. At least with mushrooms they are able to produce something useful which is better than marxist dems, they are alike because mushrooms and dems both like crap and both are spores that like the dark. All socialist democrats show what damn morons they are, companies and businesses are created for profits, if you don’t make a profit, why even create something? Why don’t you dumb asses not just settle for just tofo, shelter , a warm place to defecate and sleep on rugs, and water? Plus, just walk to work with skins tied around your bodies and on your feet.We know why you idoits join a union and vote for the marxist democrat party canidates, democrats have a nano minds. That why they all need some one to bargin for them, tell them where to go and when, what to do, and don’t have any creativity, and beleive what they are told to beleive. Another comparasion, would be a year old child mental capicity with a adult sized body. Actually it is a 4 months old, since they can crawl and make sounds and blow bubbles. Dems only, out their behinds of course their mouths and behinds are dual purpose vents

    • RicSeag

      i41:

      Other than your ad-hominem drivel repeatedly shows you as incapable of reason….. Your example of the oil spill exactly makes my point. The regulatory agency that used to oversee drilling safety was downsized, starved of funds, and stocked with industry cronies- not with egg-headed elites as you imply. This happened because Republicans in the White House and Congress – throughout the last decade – wanted to “create opportunity” by letting the foxes run the hen house.

      Without reasonable oversight, you will get exactly what we got. — and there is more to come.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        ricSeag,
        The last inspection and safety cert on the gulf oil rig was done by the progressives, not the repubs, son!!

  • http://gmail i41

    RicSeag, The oil spill was my point, BP was inspected and has been awarded safety awards and were on board to receive another, why wasn’t the oil feild pipe not inspected. It was the the overly amount of pee brained idoits like you wandering in and out who don’t know s–t what they are looking at but approving what ever paperworked that was dreamed up. I don’t care how many damn degrees from what ever college you have, real experience teach morons like you what in the hell is going on. After the damn muslim marxists quit having photo shoots and went back to playing golf and parting BP took care of the problem. If those s–t brained inspectors were doing their jobs, where were the hard hats and rig safety gear like sreel toes. Oh the average working person forgets socialist democrats and our mulim marxist are, hard headed burrheads, just like the burrrs on the pipe that broke. The agencies have more damn money that is wasted on new chairs and desks, big screen TVs so the dudds can watch pron in comfort. Since all you socialist asses love government created agencies. Who impede businesses and think businesses shouldn’t make a profit. You dream and come up with the most assine theories to create government work. Why the hell don”t you just move to Russia or Venuzula, since all democrats are too damn simple minded to start a businesses unless you can get special rates or loans. You are the most drivel spouting smuck except for your miracile birth baby brother, am lib. Onumnutt sat on his postieror for 80 days.He pissed a million dollars a peice for his commion members to play with them selves and get nothing done, just like you.

  • chuck b

    just to keep the progressives on the right track:

    US fires head of agency that oversees oil drilling

    Interior Secretary Ken Salazar confirmed to NBC News that the head of Minerals Management Service resigned, despite earlier reports she was fired.
    Birnbaum was appointed by President Barack Obama in 2009. According to her bio page at the agency’s website she assumed duties on July 15, 2009:

  • Norm

    Why we need everyone insured:

    Of those without insurance:

    60% reported problems paying medical bills.
    27% reported struggling to pay expenses such as food, rent or heat.
    Almost half (44%) said that they were forced to use most or all of their savings to pay medical bills.
    20% had run up large credit card debts or taken out a home equity loan to pay medical expenses.

    We all pay more because we don’t have a rational way for everyone to gain timely access to affordable, effective care:

    People without insurance use the most expensive source of care when they need it – the emergency room – which adds unnecessary costs to the health system.
    The cost of care for the uninsured is shifted to people with insurance, in the form of higher premiums, co-pays and deductibles.
    Through this cost shift, the average person with insurance pays about $100 per month to cover the cost of care for the uninsured.
    Employers, faced with those higher premium costs, are facing the difficult decision of either passing on the costs to employees, eliminating coverage for dependents, or eliminating work-based coverage altogether.
    The current structure (before the new law) of the US health care system results in higher taxes, lower wages, increased health care costs and, often the inability to get timely access to needed care. We have “universal access” but only through the emergency room, which is both expensive and inefficient.

  • http://none Jonathan

    Ah! the Emergency rooms – where they charge you $35 dollars for a band aid and sometimes make you wait 10 Hours in the waiting room – because they are loaded with illegal immigrant patients, who refuse to pay one red cent.

  • http://gmail i41

    norm, take that marxist quarters out of your and hit spin cycle. Your credit card xrap is just that, the more layers of puke brained idoits to check paers and dream up excesses to slow down healthcare, the more expensive it gets. Check out how the Great Society inflated medical costs and has never decreased it once. You simple minded marxist democrats are just dumber than a horse road apple.

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