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Virginia Judge Finds Obamacare Provision To Be Unconstitutional

December 14, 2010 by  

Virginia judge finds Obamacare provision to be unconstitutionalPresident Barack Obama's landmark healthcare reform has hit its first major setback.

According to media reports, a Federal judge in Virginia has ruled that a key provision in Obamacare is unconstitutional. Judge Henry Hudson of the Eastern District Court in Richmond, who was appointed by former President George W. Bush, found that the law's mandate that all Americans must have a minimum level of coverage — or pay a fine — exceeds Federal authority.

Last month, a Federal judge in Virginia rejected a similar lawsuit that challenged the law's mandate that people must purchase insurance. In October, a judge in Michigan also upheld Obamacare' constitutionality. A district court in Florida is scheduled to hear similar arguments against the law later this week.

The Virginia and Florida cases are expected to wind up in the Supreme Court, according to The Hill.

According to AOL News, the GOP has targeted the repeal of Obamacare as their defining issue in 2011. The next Speaker of the House, John Boehner (R-Ohio) has pledged to replace the President's legislation, while Republicans in 40 different states have already introduced legislation to block all or part of the law. 

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  • http://naver sook young

    It seems that this insurance plan can be overturned and rightfully so. Why do people feel they need something from government when they are to do these things for themselves? I was rereading the books my husband gave me to study for the citizenship test and I found something interesting. Did you know that this insurance program is against the Commerce Act? The government cannot force you to buy something or make you pay for something if you don’t want it. Why should we pay a penalty for not wanting it every year? Isn’t that sort of like another tax on the hard working people? Thank you.

    Sook Young
    Wife of the Samurai

    • Doc Sarvis

      A LOT of people are shut out of insurance policies. Just look up pre-existing conditions.

      • John Wayne

        That’s true. But a lot of those people didn’t want healthcare insurance and didn’t have it when those “Pre-existing conditions” came into existence. Can you blame an insurance company for not wanting to assume massive debt for whatever premium paid for the coverage? Try running a business like that and see how soon you go belly up!

        • Doc Sarvis

          We all have pre-existing conditions whether we know what they are or not. The insurance companies are a business as you point out. They want to maximize profits. They can do that by constantly broadining the definition of what constitutes a pre-existing condition. This narrows their customer base which causes them to increase premiums to outragous amounts. This is what has been happening. A business, yes; health insurance for the masses NO. Soon, without some sort of intervention, only the rich will be able to afford insurance. Another case where the GOP is focused on their fat-cat base to the degredation of the poor and middle class.

          • Dagney

            If a third party is paying for the medical care and the third party has deep pockets, the cost of medical care will naturally go up. If there was only insurance for catastrophic occassions, would routine medical care costs go down? I believe so. So, if there were no insurance whatsoever, would all medical care also go down in cost? More than likely. When was insurance introduced? How in the world did people survive prior to insurance??? Oh, that’s right, they paid out of their own pockets and/or made other arrangements. And, the people who could not afford care? Were they dying in the streets? Hmmmmm….I don’t think so. Oh, that’s right there were communities, churches, and charities who took care of each other…..what a concept!

          • Doc Sarvis

            Dagney,
            Your scenerio will cause life expectancy to go WAY down. And yes, there were a lot of people dying in the steets before health insurance and our advanced/costly medical toolbox.
            With all the talk about death panels your approach is the ultimate in “death panels”.

          • eddie47d

            The old days are gone Dagney and yes people died on the streets (mostly in their own homes).Many charities and churches are having a tough time keeping things going. You can’t expect them to rally with the massive increases in healthcare costs. It’s easy to say it’s an individuals problem whether they live or die but there are way too many folks who can’t buy even basic healthcare coverage. The income gap has become too great and we could end up back in the “good ol’ days”. There is nothing wrong with encouraging everyone to take personal responsibility; but there comes a time in everyone’s life where we have to depend on someone else to survive or die. Relying on churches and charities won’t cut it anymore.

          • Average Joe

            For Doc and Eddie…..

            The supreme irony of life is that hardly anyone gets out of it alive.
            Robert A. Heinlein

          • Palin12

            So a person goes to college and medical school for 8 years, and then several years of residency, and now you libtards expect him or her to work for free? “It’s our right to have free medical care” hogwash! I have observed in my own life those like me that finished college and made a good career from it don’t have too many worries about health insurance. On the other hand, those who chose from an early age (let’s say 18) not to continue education, to settle for mediocre low-paying jobs and have no goals in sight other than to survive the next day to watch game shows all day on TV, they are now the ones into a big government dependancy thing. Don’t expect any symapathy from me Libtards and just keep your hands outta my pocket!

          • Doc Sarvis

            Palin12,
            Who said ANYTHING about doctor’s working for free?

          • Palin12

            Isn’t that what free health care is?

          • Doc Sarvis

            Palin12,
            Who said ANYTHING about Free health care? Are you people reading or just reacting?

          • Palin12

            Doc, that’s exactly what a liberal coworker once told me: that as human beings we’re entitled to free health care. He says they do it in other countries. I’ve heard it said by other liberal lunatics and welfare advocates too. Tell ya what Doc, how about we pay all the docs except you?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Average Joe n palin12,
            Joe,
            I gonna get out alive AND I’m takin it with me!!! Whatever “it” is!?!?!
            Palin12,
            Even the healthcare in europe isn’t free! Their taxes are much higher than ours and they have a lot of hidden taxes we don’t!!

          • eddie47d

            No such thing as free healthcare Palin 12. So where do you get your nonsense? Doctors will get paid whether you have a private plan or a national plan. So what kind of Tard are you?

      • Bruce D.

        That may or may not be true but it does not give you or the government the right to ignore the supreme law of the land and allow government unlimited powers under the commerce clause. There is no doubt the health care system needs fixing. If Obama had allowed bipartisan support it would have been fixed right. At the very least he wouldn’t have had a rebellion that led to 64 House Democrats leaving and a slew of law suits.

      • herman richardson

        Sure alot of folks are shut out of medical but who wants the quacks to mess with you?? All the Drs are interested in is the money, to hell with the patients

      • James

        Buying health insurance doesn’t improve one’s health it makes insurance companies richer. In the twenty-some lawsuits that have been filed, two District Courts have held the Healthcare’s mandate, that those who do not have health insurance must buy it, is constitutional, and one has held it to be unconstitutional. That one, and one of the others to the contrary, were both in the State of Virginia. It will be interesting to see how the other Districts hold.
        Our health is determined by how we take care of our bodies, not by how much insurance we have. Insurance is the biggest scam ever hatched by man. But here, Congress does not have the power to force people to buy health insurance.

    • http://N/A Dai Uy

      This might help explain the judges reasoning… http://tinyurl.com/2d4teuv

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Captain,
        I for one hope his decision stands and I hope the supremes give us the very same one and a whole lot more to destroy this crap package foisted on the almost 60% of the people that didn’t want it!

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    My insurance has went up so much this year. My coverage is not that much better. There has got to be better solutions than Obamacare that will benefit more people. I hope after the first of the year we will see some legislation that will be beneficial financially. This time I hope the bill is read!
    Before the left wing trolls start screaming that the GOP is not going to do any better, I think we need to give them a chance. We have their attention, which is more than we had with Nancy and the gang.

  • newspooner

    The forced-purchase requirement of the Obamacare legislation is so completely unconstitutional that any judge who would rule otherwise is a philosophical communist. It is good that at least one federal judge has some common sense and understands this.

    • Bruce D.

      It is a great victory for those who support the American Constitution and a great defeat for Marxists.

      • eddie47d

        Bruce;Obama fought hard to include Republicans in the healthcare issue and the Republicans deliberately shut themselves out. You can’t be apart of any process if you don’t show up to participate. This country needs to get a grip on healthcare and stop kicking the can down the road.

        • Bruce D.

          Eddie47d no one here believes that because it isn’t true and we all followed it. That kind of stuff only flies on liberal blog sites.

          • Palin12

            Yes, and why no tort reform in Obamacare as Republicans asked for? I’ll tell you why, because most democrat politicians are lawyers: Obummer, the Hildebeast, Bubba, Dirty Harry Reid, Queen Pelosi, Big Mouth Biden all lawyers. Not so much with the GOP: Sarah has a journalism background, McCain a naval aviator, Rep-elect Heck from NV an MD.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Bruce D,
            you have to understand that edduuuhhh! thinks Nobummercare was the Lords answer to the sick! He forgets that right after the progs passed it, they started a movement that said mamograms were not needed and were non-productive, even though the AMA and cancer society BOTH said they were a life saver!! See unlike us regular people, the prog pols like billy boy would relish the end of their spouse!!! Then he could chase all the skirt he wanted and the world, all of it, would turn a blind eye!!

          • eddie47d

            Palin 12;Tort reform is 1-1/2% of healthcare costs; an important issue but hardly what is fueling the rising costs. So get a grip on reality.

          • eddie47d

            Joe Blow; You are wrong on mammograms(x-rays).Like any x-ray too much exposure can cause more problems than they help. Women should get mammograms but not as frequently. The mammogram salesmen and tech workers are the ones pushing for more usage.(job security). Over prescribing of services is another thing that has forced higher healthcare costs. Unnecessary tests and over medicating also help hospitals make money, but is it right?

          • Palin12

            Edduh! Where do you get your figures from the Huffington Post?? You haven’t heard of fatcat liars, er lawyers suing doctors for millions??

          • eddie47d

            There are very few large jury awards or settlements in the healthcare business. You have been watching too many TV movies.

        • Flynn

          Eddie, What planet have you been on for the past two years?

          • http://naver sook young

            I think he must of been one of my patients at the CBM Center in my hospital. CBM – Center for Behavioral Medicine. We patriots and modern day women won the last election and I hope this bill is repealed. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

          • eddie47d

            I see Sook has to get her licks in too! Since you want to be snippety maybe you are the one with the problem so check yourself into that CBM unit.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eduuuuhhh!
            Why would she want to be that close to you??? Oh, and BTW the Drs. themselves were also saying the mamograms were detecting cancer and detecting it early enough to save lives!! the lady I thought of as my mother for a good part of my life was diagnosed with breast cancer at about 45 years old, had a mastectomy and just died about three months ago at the age of 97 years old! her cancer was detected by a mamogram!

        • http://naver samurai

          Was this before the pay offs and backroom deals? Was this before ramming it down our throats, though more than 60% of the people didn’t want it? The latest polls show that more than 60% of Americans still don’t want the thing, so why don’t you wake up and smell the coffee? Why should I, if I choose to opt out, have to pay a fee (tax) every year to stay off off this program? Sorry edduh, but my wife and I have insurance through our work places and insurance through State Fram and they are good policies. Our agent is always willing to work with us and seem to always get a little more ahead. Let’s see what happens when Virginia’s lawsuit, along with Florida’s (Which has 20 other states with it, to include Indiana) makes it to the floor of the Supreme Court. It could mean bye bye to Obama bin Laden care. Some say how can we get by without insurance? Simple, just go out and get a job or change your spending habits and then you can afford it. Also, staying healthy by eating right and exercising will lower you health cost. If you are healthy and fit, you tend to make less visits to the hospital. Less people getting sick means less trips to the hospitl, lees trips to the hospital means not as high a need for medications, less medications means the drug companies (along with doctors and hospitals) charge less in fees, less fees means prices eventually come down, prices come down so do insurance prices. Ergo, this simple outline of an idea is a win win situation. The people have more money and the medical, pharm, and hospitals gets the libs off of their backs. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • eddie47d

            When have hospital costs and insurance costs come down? Certainly not with private care or private insurance. Your comments should work in theory but it doesn’t in reality.

          • http://naver samurai

            I don’t know about that edduh. I’ve been doing what I’ve posted for years and have only been ill 1 time in a 20 year period. I had a bad case of pneumonia a couple of months back, but usually I only go once a year for a physical. If I can make this thing work, other people can do the same thing. My wife does too. You say in theory it’ll work but not in reality? It can work if try to stay fit, watch your weight, and see your doctor for annual physicals. You must have the desire to make it work, but so many people are lazy and just want another unconstitutional program and bigger government. Remember our founding principles of self reliance, personal responsibility, and the vision to ensure that government remains our servents and not our masters. Smaller government = More freedom for the people. Bigger government = Less freedom for the people. Also, there are so many things in Obama bin Laden care that would make you wait longer than necessary. Did you know that the plan tells women that mamograms aren’t necessary and will not be covered on this healthcare policy? My wife showed me that. There are even unions and companies already opting out of the program before it even starts. Free health care is a good practice in theory, but can’t work in reality. Just look how countries in Europe are so overburdened with their own health care programs that it take up to 50% – 60% of their budgets just to pay for the darn thing. Where would the government get the money needed for this program? This is the #1 reason Obama bin Laden wanted the taxcuts to expire, so he can have the money for the program. Right now all social programs in America, not counting Obamacare, is more than 50% of the annual government’s budget. Come on edduh! You know what I said is true. Maybe if you did what I posted, your costs wouldn’t be as high as they are now. All I do is 2 minutes of non stop push ups and sit ups 6 days a week and run 2 – 5 miles 3 – 4 times a week. Simple program and you don’t have to pay for a gym or exercise equipment. Win – win situation. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • eddie47d

            You had a compelling answer even though I’m not your edduh. I do exercise everyday and only take an occasional headache medication. To me this issue isn’t about myself but a better country to live in. Everyone should have a healthcare plan and everyone should pay into whatever plan they can afford. If you pay less you get less whether private or national. Mammograms have been oversold and there is no reason for yearly coverage. Many tests should be only done every other year or even every five years or so. Depending on the persons vulnerability to certain diseases or cancers. Yearly tests that aren’t necessary only drive up costs.

    • BigBadJohn

      Most states require that you buy auto insurance, is that also unconstitutional?

      One of the biggest expenses of health care are the people with no insurance that hospitals can not turn away from the emergency room. If forced to buy at least minimal insurance, the hospital would get reimbursed for some of this expense. Also this is a new market for the insurance companies. The other option is to just turn anyone away that does not have insurance – just pray that you do not get laid off.

      • Bruce D.

        Those who cannot afford it will not pay under Obamacare so nothing will change there. You are not forced to buy car insurance if you do not drive a car. If you do drive a car you have options on coverage and price.

        • eddie47d

          Those who drive and don’t have coverage put a greater burden on those who do. Those who don’t have healthcare coverage put a greater burden on those who do. That is why a mandate is necessary. Everyone get’s sick or has an accident and we never know when. If everyone is “forced” to have coverage and pays a share of the burden then the cost for everyone goes down.

          • Bruce D.

            So we should just pretend the Constitution doesn’t exist and start following Carl Marxs.

          • http://naver sook young

            How can you lie like that Ed? If this plan starts, my insurance I have at work will go up 25% – 30% a month. This will make it just a little bit harder for my husband and I to afford thing for our 4 children. Aren’t Americans supposed to be self reliant, personally responsible, and believe in smaller government? I don’t want to sound mean, but these people are supposed to make sure they have insurance and it is not this governments job to prop them up. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

          • http://?? Joe H.

            edduuuuhhh!,
            Actually there are many people who live and drive their whole life and never have an accident. My father drove for seventy years and never had an accident. i have driven for 44 years and I haven’t had one yet! (knock on wood!!) I watch the other guy and when it is needed i slow down to the conditions, it isn’t hard to do!

          • eddie47d

            So what Joe is saying is that it doesn’t matter if you have insurance or not and we should just take our chances. I bet most people don’t use their homeowners insurance yet they are glad they have it.

          • eddie47d

            Sook; You really need to ask yourself all the reasons that healthcare costs have gone up so much and before any national plan was even brought to the floor of the House. Where was your personal responsibility in stopping private insurance companies in gouging the public. You almost never see a “poor” insurance salesman and the executives have been raking in millions and even billions. That will only get worse and you will pay more and more for their arrogant lifestyle. Do they care about your rising healthcare costs? Don’t be fooled over and over again and yes there are other reasons so check it out.

          • http://naver sook young

            Eddie, I agree that many of the high ranking people in these companies get a good salary, that’s true. However, I wasn’t talking about them. I was talking about the 150 nurses that work at our hospital. Many of whom are single/divorced with children to raise. Some of them even started a petition at the hospital and every nurse and doctor signed it. We asked the hospital director to not impliment this program. One of the nurses I work with has been recently divorced and has 3 children to raise. How could she afford the program when she has so many other bills and responsibilities to take care of? Though a nurse’s salary isn’t bad, but it is still up to us to be insured and not to have a socialist program as this one forced on us. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

          • eddie47d

            Most nurses I have met over the years earn between $65,000 to $120,000.That was a big issue here 20 years ago and nurses were paid $43,000 at that time. There were protesting their low wages and then the raises started coming in. Haven’t heard any complaints since then. I think you actually gave reasons why your fellow nurses should have a good healthcare policy (kids), whether private or national. Right now too many Americans wait until they get sick or injured and then expect emergency room care. I believe it would be better to charge everyone upfront so they earn that emergency room privilege. If not, then they get lesser care as it should be. You can call it socialist or whatever but what we have now isn’t doing the job.

          • http://naver sook young

            Eddie, I understand what you said about their pay, but those nurses tend to have a union in their hospitals and can get paid more. I’ve been a nurse of a CBM ward on military bases and in public hospitals for 20 – 23 years and I don’t get paid that much. Why? No union. Our hospital won’t let one come in, but we do have a good benefit and retirement package through the hospital. The hospital takes out some $6000.00 a year for me and our children with the maximum amount allowed through our hospital. If my payments were to go up, I would be paying around $2000.00 more a year if this healthcare program comes into effect. No one in our hospital wants this program. Some doctors said that they would be restricted to only doing a certain amount of operations and a certain amount of procedures a month. Also, our hospital has an office that you can go to to help you with your bills. We have a great lady there named Tanisha. She’ll take your bill and call people from the list of charities on her desk. Some people have had the charities pay all their bills, 100% at times. Another thing is that if this program does start, we would not be able to offer this program to any patient. I feel that this could also affect things in a bad way. So many poor families come to rely on this office to help them, due to not having any insurance or not much money. Does your local hospital have something that I’ve just mentioned? With people and charities always willing to help we don’t need this healthcare program. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

          • http://?? Joe H.

            edduuuuhhhh47Duhs!
            show me where I said that auto insurance wasn’t needed! i have never driven without it and neither did my dad! I was in a friends car that was hit by a drunk driver and survived but my buddy died ten years later from complications of that accident! The bastard should have gone to jail after the accident for life but still had another five years later even though he didn’t have a licence nor insurance!!

      • Palin12

        Yes most states require auto insurance IF you choose to drive. That is a State’s rights issue and the federal government has no business poking its face into state’s right’s issues.

        • eddie47d

          Since the majority of Americans have been to more than one state then it is more than a states rights issue. It is an inter-state issue (national).

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eduh47duhs!,
            actually it is stilla states right. As the amount and type of insurance varies from state to state.

  • Teresa

    FINALLY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS THE CONSTITUTION…AMEN!

  • John Wayne

    I am concerned that two Federal Courts could have ruled that this Law IS Constitutional! I cannot fathom how Congress can pass a law requiring the purchase of ANYHTING and provide for punishment for failing to make the purchase! We’ve got to do a better job of appointing judges! No, we’ve got to do a BETTER JOB of electing our “leaders”. We sure screwed the pooch with this bunch!

  • Steve

    I drove my Government Motors Chevy to the Levy the day Obummercare died….Seroiusly, ty Judge Hudson, I am confident that once this reaches the Supreme Court it will be ruled Unconstitutional by a 5 to 4 ruling!

  • Kevin Beck

    The Honorable Henry Hudson is a National Hero!

    The next step is to eliminate this entire disaster–hopefully in the summer of 2012, so Obama will be forced to defend his unconstitutional ideas right before his attempt at re-election. At the minimum, this will put the brakes on this rolling disaster.

    • photo lady

      Kevin, let’s hope he does it without the use of his tele-prompter. That would be entertaining to watch. The emperor (community organizer) has no clothes.

    • Kinetic1

      Yes Kevin, he is a hero to the folks at Campaign Solutions, a republican online communications firm that he happens to be invested in. So what’s the problem? Well, one of Campaign Solutions clients is Ken Cuccinelli, the Attorney General of Virginia and the man who brought the lawsuit in front of Hudson’s court. The firm claims that the judge, who has been an investor since day 1 over thirteen years ago, plays a passive roll and is unaware of the day to day business, but then what would you expect them to say? I’m not saying that the judge ruled as he did for profit, but the connection seems like enough of an issue that he should have recused himself. If nothing else, his connection may create an opportunity to challenge the ruling on issues above and beyond the cases’ merits, and that’s never a good thing.

      • Teresa

        kinda like Obamas appointed judge Kagan who threw out at least 6 cases brought before her of his elegibility, right?…

        • Kinetic1

          Judge Kagen was not a judge at the time, but even if she was, this story is yet another pack of lies that keeps floating around the net. the story comes from an article that appeared on WorldNetDaily.com on August 4, 2010. Proving, once again that it’s a good idea to do research before hand, an “Editor’s Note” that replaced it a few days later admits that the court cases in question were incorrectly described as pertaining to Obama’s eligibility. “Those cases, in fact, were a series of unrelated disputes pending before the Supreme Court.”

          Yep, Snopes.com looked deep into the specific cases and found that not one of them had anything to do with President Obama’s eligibility or citizenship. In fact the majority of the filings originally named George W. Bush as the defendant and were updated when President Obama too office. The dockets list Elena Kagan as Obama’s attorney of record because it was her job as U.S. Solicitor General to represent the Executive Branch.

          So no, not kinda like Obamas appointed judge Kagan, but nice try.

          • Teresa

            No. 09-6790
            Title: Gary William Holt, Petitioner
            v.
            Barack H. Obama, President of the United States, et al.

            Docketed: October 1, 2009
            Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit
            Case Nos.: (08-5389)
            Decision Date: March 26, 2009
            Rehearing Denied: May 15, 2009
            ~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
            Aug 10 2009 Petition for a writ of certiorari and motion for leave to proceed in forma pauperis filed. (Response due November 2, 2009)
            Oct 13 2009 Waiver of right of respondents Barack H. Obama, President of the United States, et al. to respond filed.
            Oct 22 2009 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of November 6, 2009.
            Nov 9 2009 Petition DENIED.

          • Kinetic1

            Ok Teresa,
            Kagen is listed on this case as the Solicitor General and as such is responsible for defending the government. She was not a judge, so she could not refuse the case. She was not a private attorney, so she could neither turn down the case or make any money off of it. Nothing about this is comparable to a judge with a possible financial interest in a case not recusing himself.

            Unrelated to this argument (or President Obama’s right to hold office) is the fact that Gary William Holt (the plaintiff in the case you noted) is a federal prisoner in Tennessee convicted on fire arms violations. His case regards the civil rights of prisoners and was originally filed during the Bush administration. So again, if you want to argue matters like this, find yourself a source that does research, or do the research yourself.

          • http://naver sook young

            Didn’t she just do that, Kinetic? Can you use your energy to move your mouse and click on your screen to find them? Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

          • Kinetic1

            No, Sook Young, I had to do the research for her. If you read my post you would have seen that the case she presented as “proof” that it was “Kagan who threw out at least 6 cases brought before her of his elegibility” (sic) has nothing to do with Kagan protecting Obama, other than it being her job to represent the government. Research means more than going to your favorite right wing conspiracy site and accepting the garbage presented as fact. It often takes more than just using “your energy to move your mouse and click on your screen” to glean the truth, but it’s worth it. Your Welcome.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Teresa,
          If you look under the name of the attourney you can send him a message, which I think we ALL should do! We all should thank him for looking out for our constitutional rights!!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            I forgot to add his name Ken Cuccinelli!! I just sent him a very heartfelt thanks!!

  • Dale Campbell

    In the words of Mr. Obummer’s wife, Now I’m proud to be an American!

  • David

    Why do so many people want to kill people who can’t afford health insurance? That is what has been happening. I knew a man who died because two hospitals refused care because he had no insurance or money.

    • photo lady

      David, I’m sorry about the man you knew who died without medical care. We have a story with a happier ending than the one you wrote about.

      Our son at the age of 25 had outgrown our insurance coverage and Cobra plan and was near death with Ulcerative Colitis. No one would insure him, and because he worked part time, he couldn’t get Medicaid. He needed 3 major surgeries to fix his problem and he lost his entire large intestine. St. Mary’s Hospital in Grand Rapids, MI. was wonderful! They reduced his bill by 87% and the doctors and anesthesiologists followed their lead and did the same. At the end of one year he had paid back all his medical bills and was debt free. Today he is married and has 2 kids, and works as a youth pastor. We praise God for supplying our needs and give so many thanks to the wonderful medical staff at St. Mary’s Hospital for saving our son’s life, and for the financial staff for not enslaving him to a huge debt.

      • David

        It is great when things work out like they did for your son. Things don’t work out like that often enough. I think everybody should have health care guaranteed them, without relying on a health care provider to write off part of a bill, which they do in some, but not all, cases. It may be against the law, as some posters have said, to deny care, but the law does no good after someone dies for lack of care. Praise God for your good results!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        photo lady I went to college in Big Rapids Ferris State college!! Beautiful country up there!!! My niece and brother in law, her father both live in Rockford!!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          BTW, my daughter just got out of the hospital here with colitis. spent a week in the hospital and had NO INSURANCE! They set up a payment plan for her to pay it off a little at a time! Kinda shoots this can’t get service at the hospital without insurance crap all to hell doesn’t it???

          • photo lady

            Joe, I’m sorry to hear your daughter is having problems with colitis. It’s a nasty disease and robs so much from a person. I hope she is doing better now. I’m happy to hear about your good outcome with the hospital bills. We also were given a payment plan and it was tailored to my son’s finances. He had 3 hospitalizations and 2 trips to the emergency room. The church where he was a youth pastor took up a collection and raised $3,000. for his bills. Then I have to give glory to God here because he increased my business up to 80 weddings in a year and I was able to help my son pay his bills. We were not looking for a free ride for medical care and while my husband had a different job we were paying for health care coverage every week out of his paycheck and never used it. Then when we needed it, we couldn’t get it, but thank God for benevolent rich people who donate large amounts of money for foundations and hospital wings, medical equipment and hold charity balls to fund their projects. I say thank you to those people who worked hard and built up businesses to support themselves and to bless their communities. Our government wants to tax the crap out of them, and when government gets it’s hands on something it gets spent on earmarks, pork and jet planes, lavish vacations and just plain wasteful spending. The rich in my community built a sports arena, art museum, public gardens full of beauty and art,
            built medical centers, hospitals & universities and enrich everyone’s lives in so many ways. Their largesse blesses everyone and through their generosity our son was able to be healed of a life threatening disease with payments he could handle over a period of time.

            I’m a simple person and don’t know the answers to many things in this world, but I don’t believe Obamacare is the answer for our country. As others have stated above, each person has to take responsibility for their own health by eating sensibly, getting enough rest and exercising. I believe God created us and then gave us an operating manual on how to run our machines. If people would go back to the basics and cut out the junk food, sugar and fat, they would eliminate a lot of health problems that overburden our medical care system. Look on the show, Biggest Loser, how they eliminate medical problems by changing eating patterns and getting off the couch with the remote control. However, in this entitlement society, there are too many people who expect handouts from government who have never paid into anything. Look at Obama’s aunt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHoAuk76fT8) who has been living here illegally, got free medical care and free housing, didn’t pay a dime into the system, and thinks it’s her right to claim her benefits because this is such a great country. She is a lunatic and leech and should be sent back where she came from. But her attitude is so prevalent across the USA, and when you multiply her by millions of others and throw in an irresponsible federal government with out of control spending, you can see why this country is heading for bankruptcy.

            Sorry, think I got off the track here, but thanks for letting me speak my mind.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            photo lady,
            i am sure you are not looking for a handout, neither is my daughter. As far as speaking your mind, that is what this forum is here for!!

    • Teresa

      You will be allowing more to die if the bill passes and you do not even realize it!

    • Bruce D.

      People die for a lot of reasons. Eighty thousand people die a year in the hospital of doctors prescribing wrong drugs or too much. Many more die of the flu and many of doctor errors. So you can die because you have insurance also. It would be better and wiser for people to take more responsibility for their own health. Exercise, better eating habits, and natural health remedies. Modern medicine is based on maintaining sickness. Have you ever seen how many side effects there are in drugs. If you smoke cigarettes or drink to excess you bring sickness upon yourself. Everyone should not have to pay for individual irresponsibility. The price of health care should be addressed but not by using force and giving the federal government unlimited power under the commerse clause.

      • eddie47d

        You are correct in most of what you say.Yet there are 45 million uninsured and that is probably growing. So that 80,000 figure pales in comparison to the greater need of the uninsured. I do agree that way too many Americans don’t take care of their health and should pay more for their obstinence or maybe they should receive minimal care if they do need help.

        • Bruce D.

          Many of those you talk about are illegal aliens all can get emergency care in the hospital or Medicare. Those who do not have anything and cannot afford to pay are not going to pay under Obamacare. If they file a tax return and many do not it will go against them. Many illegals and many on unemployment work for cash. Obamacare does not address the problem. It only makes it worst.

          • http://GOGGLE vaksal

            TO:Bruce D. this obama care program is about funding illeagals working for employers that are so cheap that employees (LAW BREAKERS)get federal government help funding this corperate welfare scam,at the expense of every american leagal citizen and at the expense of abridging the surpreme laws of this republic,and with the money demanded by this criminal act,(EXTORTION)these people employing these folks will have a lifetime free ride on the backs of every person in this nation,never would have thought i would see the day that this nation would be chained into being no more than slaves,to nothing but left-wing corperate neo-com zionist thugs,killing this nations freedoms,inch by inch.but finally at least one judge has the moral fiber to say its wrong,a judge worth supporting,a real american.

  • rosina

    No one wants to kill anyone David.
    No one can be refused emergency hospital care-it is against the law. If they do they should be reported.
    There is also Medicaid for those who have little money. But, also remember that a house and car DO NOT COUNT! BUT, if someone is a renter with above a certain amount of savings, they do NOT qualify-this is not right nor fair. The money after all is needed for rent but-forget it. Personally, in my early years of working as an independent, I DID not have insurance as it was so expensive. BUT< I always made sure to have enough savings just in case. There were always special places with reasonable fees to keep up health. Even hospital clinics despite long waits.
    I know that some years ago hospitals DID refuse but not for a long time now. It is against the law.

  • Kim

    When someone tells me I HAVE to buy their goods, I certainly will backpedal at a rapid rate. It is most definitely UNConstitutional, and the only reason any judges would rule otherwise is that they are liberal appointed and need to read the Constitution, probably for the first time in their lives. If this goes to the Supreme Court, with all Obama’s buddies, how do you think that will fare???

  • Raggs

    It’s a damm good thing that this judge seen the law as unconsitutional if this were to be forced on us I have a feeling that any goes including disarming the public.

    • Teresa

      Yep!

      • http://naver samurai

        This is just the start. Just wait till the U. N. Small Arms Treaty, Cap and Trade, etc come into effect. This means more costly insurance, penalties for anyone who pollutes the air, having our fire arms taken from us, in other words all these unconstitutional programs dumped on the American people. Let’s knock Obama bin Laden out of office in 2012. Let’s get rid of the illegals also. They also drive up the price of healthcare, nor are they eligable to receive any aid programs (need to be a U.S. citizen). I guess peole are still waiting for this hope that Obama bin Laden promised them.

        “He that lives on hope will die fasting.” Benjamin Franklin.

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          samurai,
          Watch for the middle east to walk away from our dollar soon. When they do, pray we can find gas for our cars for less than 4.50 a gallon! Heating costs will sky rocket with crap and rape but much more in this scenario! watch about september or october!

          • http://naver samurai

            Thanks fellow patriot! I’ll do that. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • s c

    It is so refreshing to know America still has at least one judge who doesn’t have a bad case of social engineering fever. The heart of the issue concerns whether or not Uncle Scam has any legal or moral right to tell any American that he or she has to buy something (healthcare, in this case).
    Whiz off, Uncle Scam. Read the Constitution, and take off those damned progressive/communist/utopian blinders. Your iron-fisted days of glory are numbered – and you s u c k.

    • Kinetic1

      s c,
      I don’t think they noted it in this article, but the judge went on to make a point of telling all states to continue implementation of the law. He may not think it’s constitutional, but it seems that he expects them to work that issue out.

      • http://naver samurai

        Wait till Indiana, along with other states, start using the powers given to the states under the 10th Amendment. Then Obama bin Laden care won’t be able to start in Indiana. This is part of states rights you know. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • hsr0601

    The Republicans are the ultimate hypocrites!
     
    1. How do we pay for health care reform ?
     
    2. How do you pay for tax cuts for the wealthy ?
     
    (a). First attempt : threatening Social Security and Medicare Cut through the deficit panel.
     
    (b). Second attempt : holding the desperate Hostage, say, by the Ransom.
     
    3. Auto insurance mandate !
    Under historical interpretations of the Constitution, Congress can dictate the economic activity of citizens so long as that activity will have profound, large-scale effects on the national economy.
     
    4. Health insurance protects you PLUS all !
     
    ** Inaction cost, $9trillion over the next decade, ((Some of CBO analysis : While the costs of the financial bailouts and economic stimulus bills are staggering, they are only a fraction of the coming costs from Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Over the next decade, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projects that each year Medicaid will expand by 7 percent, Medicare by 6 percent, and Social Security by 5 percent. These programs face a 75-year shortfall of $43 trillion–60 times greater than the gross cost of the $700 billion TARP financial bailout)).
     
    Over the duration of healthcare debate, using the preliminary cost analysis of CBO, the reps opposed the public option stubbornly, but after the release of final score, they have been defiant on the referee.
     
    The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimates that :
    Inaction cost in relation to health care reform totals $9trillion over the next decade.
    Reform will reduce the federal deficit by $143 billion over the next 10 years and as much as $1 trillion during the following decade.

    • s c

      hsr0601, since no one told you yet, if you’re concerned about spotting hypocrites, LOOK IN THE MIRROR. SCREW the idea of ‘paying’ for healthcare ‘reform.’ Most Americans [yes, MOST] don’t want it. It does need to be monitored, but since Uncle Scam’s #1 “skill” is in screwing up everything he touches, Uncle Scam is the LAST one who should be allowed to control anything.
      May you live long enough to see what is so childish and wrong about your attitude, hsr0601. If you lived in the 18th century, you would have backed the British. Take your false compassion and utopian crap to Cuba, comrade. Your place in a freedom-loving country is highly questionable. If you think being a useful idiot for politicians is the best you can do in this life, you truly have your head up your “opinion.” Darwin was wrong. You’re wrong. How can you NOT get it?

    • http://?? Joe H.

      hsr0601,
      auto insurance is not a congressional mandate, it is a states right! Even they can’t mandate insurance if 1) you don’t drive and 2) you have enough savings to issue a bond!!

  • Teresa

    Little note to you from my congressman about our healthcare bill:
    Each Tennessean’s share of the national debt will increase when you include the cost of paying doctors to serve Medicare patients.
    · The government will spend $8,470 more on health care for every Tennessean (and every American).
    · 243,000 Tennesseans enrolled in Medicare Advantage will have benefits reduced, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.
    · And the half trillion dollars in Medicare cuts are used to pay for new programs, not to make Medicare solvent. Medicare will become insolvent in 2015, according to its trustees.
    · About 1.4 million Tennessee households making less than $200,000 will pay higher taxes, based on estimates by the Joint Committee on Taxation. Premium rates will rise 30 to 45 percent for 300,000 Tennesseans who buy individual policies, based on a Blue Cross/Blue Shield study and other analyses.
    · Tennessee businesses employing 50 or more people will pay either higher health-care costs or a new penalty.
    · The federal government will overcharge 200,000 Tennesseans with student loans by an average of $1,700 to help pay for health care and other government programs. This Washington takeover of the student loan program will deprive these students of choices, increase the federal debt by another half trillion dollars, and throw out of work 700 Tennesseans who now help students apply for loans.
    · Premiums will rise up to 35 percent for the youngest 30 percent of Tennesseans, according to a study by Oliver Wyman.

    Of course, in this 3,000-page law there are good provisions, such as insurance reforms: there will be a high-risk pool for some with pre-existing health conditions; insurance companies will not be able to deny insurance to children who are sick; and if your child lives with you until age 26, he or she can stay on your policy. These reforms were also in the health care proposals put forth by my colleagues in the Senate minority.

    The largest new benefit, beginning in 2014, is making 200,000 more low-income Tennesseans eligible for Medicaid (TennCare). But, nationally, doctors are so poorly reimbursed that 50 percent won’t see new Medicaid patients, so expanding Medicaid is like giving someone a ticket to a bus that operates only half the time.

    Unfortunately, Medicaid expansion is not likely to keep hospital emergency rooms from filling up. Nationally, Medicaid patients use emergency rooms at twice the rate of either uninsured or privately insured Americans. And Congress expanded Medicaid without paying for all of it. Governor Phil Bredesen says this will cost Tennessee $1.1 billion or more between 2014 and 2019. It is likely to force state tax increases and drive tuition through the roof when state support for colleges is cut to pay for TennCare expansion.

    I have already voted for legislation to repeal the new health care law, and would do so again. The wisest course now is to repeal this new law and replace it with immediate insurance reforms and step-by-step reductions in health care costs so that more Americans can afford to buy insurance. For example, we should allow buying insurance across state lines; permit small businesses to join together to offer cheaper insurance to employees; limit junk lawsuits against doctors; reduce waste, fraud and abuse; and expand health savings accounts. Senators on my side of the aisle repeatedly urged these steps last year.

    • Kinetic1

      Teresa,
      “For example, we should allow buying insurance across state lines…” If there is one idea I am tired of hearing, that’s the one. Have you paid any attention to the credit industry? Allowing them to do business “across state lines…” has resulted in banks locating in the least restrictive states where they can craft the most expensive and least consumer friendly deals possible. Look at the fine print in your credit card contract. Do you really expect the insurance companies to be different?

      • Teresa

        Kinetic…you as the “far left liberal” that you are like to preach to others about spending within our means but you like to also preach to us about giving what we DO have to the others to spread OUR wealth. As far as me reading my fine print on my C/C contract, I do not even carry a C/C! I do live within my means and yet you keep insisting that the government has a right to UNCONSTITUTIONALY force me to pay higher premiums or be forced to pay a fine for a forced government health plan! By your reality the government has the right to force the people to purchase ANYTHING, that’s is completely ignorant. You can argue the case that….ah, well everyone needs insurance, well guess what, everyone needs clothes too, does that mean I have to pay higher wages to help cloth everyone in the US?????
        Everyone needs to eat, does that mean that I have to pay higher wages to feed everyone in the US…..of course everyone NEEDS insurance but guess what….its a choice, that’s right..a God given right, our Constitutional right, and the LAW and when you start changing the Constitution to fit your own personal agenda you have Tyranny and nothing less! This Government has taken and stolen from us people for so long and so foolishly and people like you only feed into their game.

        • http://naver samurai

          Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Kinetic1

          Teresa,
          Thanks for telling me what I believe and say since I have not made the argument yet. All I did was point out that the Judge has a questionable relationship in this case, but I can see that you feel the need to release some anger so go right ahead. Just to help you along, I will point out that you already help provide food and clothing for those among us who are in need. Subsidies to farmers, food stamps, welfare, all paid for with your tax dollars. And while ‘m sure you curse every dollar that is spent in your name, you’re right, I have no problem with paying my share to help others who have not been as fortunate as my family. It’s just the way I was raised.

          Merry Christmas!

          • http://naver samurai

            Not as big as the one in California (a lib, gay loving, baby killing, marxist) that overturned prop 8 in California because he was gay. Which one was worse in their cases? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Kinetic1

            samurai,
            You mean the Right wing judge appointed by President G.H.W. Bush? Judge Walker who The New York Times stated he was active in Republican politics and Wired magazine described as having libertarian leanings? Asking him to recuse himself would have made no sense, since a heterosexual judge could be accused of deciding in favor of prop 8 based on his sexual preferences just as easily as you assume Judge Walker made his decision based on the fact that he is Gay.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            boundup1,
            the lending business can not do anything in a state that that state considers illegal, no matter what state they are in! Why do you think on warrenties you see the disclaimer your state may give you certain rights that are not listed herein!!!

  • Raggs

    Oh I’m sure o-dumbo will kick and scream / pout / and shiver.

    I hear now the idiot just passed a “new law” demanding schools to rid themsevles of everything but carrots and lettuce…

    What the hell is next?
    I figure we are too stupid to control our own bank account so big boy O-dumbo will need to take all of our pay and spend it as he sees fit.

    • 45caliber

      It isn’t just him who thinks your bank account should be spent by Washington. Most there do. That is one reason they don’t mind running up the debt. After all, you have all this extra money left over after paying for your taxes. It will take care of the debt easily – once they take everyone else’s too. And besides, the only people who shouldn’t pay taxes are those in Congress. Or the wealthy who support them.

    • Kinetic1

      Raggs,
      I assume you are referring to the “Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act”. This is the first increase in funding for school food programs in 30 years. No, it does not reduce our schools choices to lettuce and carrots, but it does address a growing problem. Over time, school lunch programs have had to cut back to meet needs within their dwindling budgets. The result has been a reduction in the quality of foods offered and, in some cases a reliance on corporations like Pizza Hut and McDonalds to provide food. We all know that our kids need proper nutrition to grow and develop, and when they’re at school we may have to depend on the school to provide the right choices. Fast food may be appealing, but it is not what our kids need.

  • Ellen

    One of the best solutions to the health care dilemma is–GASP–assume responsibility for your own good health. The medical mafia does NOT offer health. It peddles drug dependency, disease “management”, counter-intuitive advice, and no solutions….at a very great cost.

    Get off the poisonous fluoridated water! Stop buying crap from the grocery stores. Eat REAL food that is NOT packaged. Get rid of the stupid soda pop and the artificial sweeteners……they decimate the brain cells. Get off the margarine that is one molecule away from plastic. Throw out the disgusting microwaves; they ruin perfectly good food and deliver very poor quality nourishment. Stop buying the lies that any vaccine will confer immunity to anything! Those vaccines are full of aluminum, mercury, GMOs, squalane–responsible for Gulf War Syndrome. Get active and get those bodies moving! Lastly, see a Chiropractor…..keep your nervous system communicating properly with the rest of your body for its best chance at wellness, NOT DISEASE.

    • Raggs

      Yeah the obama-syndrome…

      There are plenty of symptoms of this..

      So far there seems to be no cure for the stupid.

    • 45caliber

      I agree with you. But … as Raggs said, there isn’t a cure for stupid.

      I spoke with a British man about their system some time ago. He said their system was the best in the world. Then he listed some serious flaws we don’t have. One flaw was that, because it was free, too many people tied up the system with minor complaints because they simply didn’t have anything else to do at home. So they used the doctors as a form of entertainment – they would sit in the doctor’s waiting room and see what everyone else had.

      • JC

        same in Canada. It’s a great system and the buildings are all shiny and stuff…but inside it’s hallway medicine. In fact a friend of mine said it was reminisent of the USSR to him.
        People in Alberta were dialling 911 from INSIDE the emegency rooms a little while ago.
        Great system…just don’t get sick.

    • photo lady

      Thank you Ellen for a voice of sanity in this insane world. My husband and I have no medical insurance and haven’t had it for years. He is part time and I’m self employed and together I think we are at the poverty level for our income. However, we are never sick (Praise God!) and don’t even take an aspirin. We take responsibility for our health by eating what God put in the Garden of Eden before man processed it, bleached it, sugar coated it and made it toxic with chemicals to last 10 years on the shelf. We eat very well on fruits, vegetables and lean meats, and find it’s cheaper to eat this way. We look at people in the stores riding around on Amigo carts because they are too fat to walk, and then we see what they are buying. Zero nutrition and empty calories. We also see people smoking with their oxygen tanks right next to them. So I feel that if these people don’t care enough about themselves to take responsibility for their own health, why should I be forced to take care of them? Even though we have no medical insurance, I’m totally against Obamacare for a number of reasons, the number one being that it will force me to pay for abortion on demand. That goes against everything I believe in. I refuse to trade the work of my hands to be used for taking a life. I applaud Judge Hudson for his ruling and I hope it stands.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Photo lady,
        don’t forget the attorney that fought for ALL of us!! See my post above and contact him and let him know how you feel, IE thank him profusely!!

  • http://gunner689 gunner689

    I hope some judge finds BO and his whole administration unconstitutional.

  • Kinetic1

    I’ve been waiting to see if anyone here on the right is willing to stand up for a Republican idea, but I guess not. If you recall, after the election the Dems were talking about universal health care. That would have been a simple matter of putting everyone into the medicare system and paying the cost through taxes. Now I don’t for one minute think that any of you would have been happy about that, so don’t waste your time preaching to me about the curse of universal care, I’m just pointing out the facts.

    Flash back to the Presidency of George Bush Sr. The Dems are talking about mandating employer health care and President Bush, in response offers up an idea proposed by Mark Pauly called the individual mandate. We all know nothing happened there, so the ball was passed to President Clinton. Clinton also had ideas about who should pay for health care, and again the Republicans were non to thrilled. So, Senators Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), Bob Bennett (R-Utah) and Kit Bond (R-Mo.) co-sponsored legislation that included an individual mandate. That’s twice that Republicans suggested requiring all Americans to cough up some cash to the insurance companies, and now even Sen. Hatch is calling his own idea “unconstitutional”. He was for it before he was against it, isn’t that the old saying? But is anyone really surprised? The idea of universal care looks to insure the health of all Americans as a basic right of living in the United States, while the individual mandate looks to take advantage of a honest concern and tun it into a windfall for the insurance industry. And who says President Obama wasn’t listening to the Republicans?

    • http://?? Joe H.

      yeah gee, wasn’t it lady Klintoon that said I was for it before I was against it?? The war in Iraq, that is!!!!

      • http://naver samurai

        You mean that she’s as bad as John Kerry when it comes to flip flopping?

      • eddie47d

        Always off track aren’t you Joe? How about answering Kinetic with a more relevant answer. Too hard for you so you have to answer in circles?

  • GregS

    I thought that if one part of ObamaCare gets declared unconstitutional, the WHOLE bill would be struck down, because it LACKS a provision that explicitly states that any part of the bill can be challenged without jepordizing the entire bill. Does anyone else remember reading this? If this is true, then my next question is why did the judge insist that the remaining parts of the bill be implemented? In other words, why wasn’t the ENTIRE bill struck down, since it lacks this provision?

  • eddie47d

    Some of you self righteous self absorbed folks love attacking liberals when they are “in bed” with someone you loath. You say it’s favoritism and they are buying votes or rigging an election. Well this Henry Hudson fellow is very partisan and has an agenda of his own;yet not a peep about who he is “in bed” with! He has raised money and personally given money to Michelle Bachman,John McCain and John Boehner. Through Campaign Solutions he gave $50,000 to Sarah Palin. Is there a conflict of interest in fawning over his opinion or is that okay with you? Next time you sling stones at liberals at least get out of that glass house you live in.

  • Curtis

    I thought the deep-thinkers on this site hated “activist judges”. Or are judges considered “activist” only when they don’t support your narrow “me-first” “born-again” form of conservatism?

    • JC

      That’s pretty vague Curtis.
      Let me see if I can clear that up for you.
      The deep thinkers on this site despise liberal / progressives…aka Commies and for all the usual American reasons.
      If a Judge falls into that lefty category they are to be despised.
      That help? :)

      • http://?? Joe H.

        JC,
        Sounds about right to me!!! Course those progs out there might need a more simplistic explaination, so let me help. Conservative/libertarian
        Good, commie/prog BAD!!!! there, even eduh47DUHS! should understand that!!!

  • who cares

    The GOP is the problem they are the do nothing party they want to make Democract’s looked bad. this time they brock the 9-11 first responders bill, the ask don’t tell bill, the dream act, extension for the unemployment benefits and lots of other bills inless Obama, extended tax cut to the rich. If social medicine is so bad why them the GOP use it for them self’s and their family? the will countinue to receive benefits for rest of their lifes. Why can’t we the people who pay for their benefits get the same benefits. Why is it that people who vote republicans is the have you’r cake and eat it too. And don’t want to pay for? 90% of you are misinformed then blame (as Jc say: liberal/ progressive aka Commies) every one else for lack of knowledge or of about you’r party and is because you have been dumb down by misinformation from the right wing. Que Sarah Sarah palin honestly she so freaking dumb But you’r dumber because she’s taking you for all you got and them some the only way she’l be president if the same supreme court who appointed bush as (the worst) president. bother way at that time the appointment the judges we’re mostly all apointed by republicans. What we don’t anderstand is why do you poor people (i mean if you make $50.000) vote against you’r best interest Then you always blaming the one who realy want’s to help. If they only to stop watching fox opinion news, or stop listening right wing radio example Rush Limbaugh. the’re being paid millions of dollars keep you divided, keep in the dark, preventing you from seeing the truth of whats happening to American people, economy, jobs. GOP’s given tax break to companies to go china. What is GOP getting in return? Donation, contribution to do more harm to the USA. you guys can’t see whats right or wrong. republicans are the walking dead. (the rachel maddow show) fox-i leaks from: sammon, bill subject: friendly reminder lets not slip back into calling it the “PUBLIC OPTION” please use the term government-run health insurannce or when BREVITY is a concern govenment option when ever possible. Deception, lie’s that what you’r being fed. Now the GOP want to roll back the 40 hour week, and the minimum hourly wage. Who is the GOP is working for? GOP feels that companies should have the decision of how mush they should be pay us, and not the Government. But they already do by law they cannot pay anyone below the minimum wage if they could they pay what ever they want. freaken republicans would be fine with anything the GOP executes the country and them too. wake up dumb asses while they let you. crawl from under you’r stupidity. you call us names. dollawage.

  • christine,

    all of you have made good points on the health of the people.thanks,i believe that our country men and women ,and children will do just fine without the goverment mandades to purchase something,and our country is buryed in payments now,why help ourself out the door of freedom too,mr.presidend no obama care,you need to protect and serve.

    presidents are to serve us not demand we service them.mr.president start walking more, and congress stay out of those expensive plane trips and get back to the basics serve and protect.we the people need to demand our country,s service people do thier jobs,and get out of our personal busines.mr.president you SIR, are not our God.U.S.A.

  • Sidney Smith

    A remedy for President Obama Health Care program available, Supreme Court Farmers Union Bank Foreclosure Cases 1993 ruling, Joint resolution signed by Congress March 09, 2000, and on Oct. 10, 2000, President Clinton signed into law the National Economic Security and Reformation Act, however,is major reformation of the United States government Inc. and Union of the States Inc.,By expressed abrogation of the 13th, 14th, 16th Amendment’s, 1871 United States government Inc., Federal Resever Act, the United States 1933 bankruptcy, Treaty with the United Nations, ect. and much more liberty.

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