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United States Tiptoeing Toward Iranian Conflict

February 23, 2012 by  

United States Tiptoeing Toward Iranian Conflict

Western pressure on Iran is mounting as mainstream media continue to ready Americans for a likely armed conflict with the Islamic Republic, following a failed two-day International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) visit to the country during which the agency requested access to a military site at Parchin — a request that was denied.

The IAEA said that intensive efforts were made to reach agreement facilitating the clarification of unresolved issues in connection with any military aspects of Iran’s nuclear program. No agreement was reached.

“It is disappointing that Iran did not accept our request to visit Parchin during the first or second meetings,” IAEA Director General Yukiya Amano said. “We engaged in a constructive spirit, but no agreement was reached.”

Top Iranian officials cast the visit in a positive light, saying that the country’s cooperation with the IAEA remains at its highest levels. But foreign policy experts cite the failed trip as further proof of Iran’s unwillingness to back off of nuclear ambitions, despite international pressure.

According to Reuters, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov warned U.S. ally Israel on Wednesday that despite Iranian unwillingness to cooperate with international demands, any military offensive on the country would be “catastrophic for the region and for the whole system of international relations.” The Russians contend that while Iran must be more open to dialogue regarding its nuclear ambitions, there is still much room for diplomacy from Russia, China, the United States, Britain, France and Germany.

Amid mounting tensions, the Israeli Jerusalem Post has given hawks fodder for their war cannons with a report that the Iranians not only wish to pose a threat to Israel, but are currently in the process of developing intercontinental ballistic missiles capable of striking the United States and Europe.

Since 2009, the Administration of Barack Obama has imposed numerous sanctions on Iran, but the President has most recently taken a backseat approach regarding relations with the Islamic Republic, instead leaving the toughest measures to be levied by members of Congress and European allies, according to The Sacramento Bee.

The Administration likely fears that leading into an election season, any actions against Iran will result in soaring fuel prices that will be blamed on the President by detractors in the Republican Party. The price of oil is already on the rise as a result of the conflict, hovering around $106 a barrel in Asian markets on Wednesday.

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • http://gravatar.com/revnowwhilewecan RevNowWhileWeCan

    http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/the-war-on-terror-is-a-fraud/c-span-audience-rejects-fake-terror-claims.html
    I just learned how to paste a link so forgive me but I think this is very important in revealing the extent of gov’t corruption and the tools it will use to scare America into “fake” wars. This shows a c-span interview with callers showing their awakeing in to the lying DHS senior Washington correspondant, Mickey McCarter.

  • s c

    According to the warped, twisted reasoning this half-assed administration uses, IF things escalate with Iran (and if gas prices continue to climb), IT MUST BE GB’s FAULT. Obummer might as well claim that everything bad since the dawn of mankind is GB’s fault.
    Retards, it seems will believe almost anything if it sounds good or feels good. Just ask Obummer’s lemming robots.
    What real people need to realize is that with THIS prez, it makes NO difference to him if gas prices continue to climb to ever-increasing heights. After all, he’s the current W H “god,’ and he can’t waste his precious time listening to or being ‘judged’ by mere mortals.
    And, with an election coming up, a war with Iran would give him the chance to remind us that going to war means it wouldn’t be right to ‘change horses in mid-stream.’ Only a committed, caring and compassionate utopian can conduct a war and do it right and be “socially just” and spread democracy (like a disease). Folks, if Washingtonian insanity isn’t contagious, it sure does seem like it with this disgusting, America-destroying administration.

    • eddie47d

      SC hasn’t yet figured out that both parties wag the dog in any foreign intervention. Johnson did it,Reagan did it, G Bush did it and Obama is trying to continue that tradition. In other words there have been several “America destroying administrations”. SC loves to lay it on hot and heavy without looking at the causes and effects so these wars do come to a halt.Blaming one man or one party is useless because the cancer will still be there no matter who is elected. 70% of our citizens now think that Iran is an evil country thanks to the continual drum roll from all the politicians and the media. The problem goes deeper and is much much bigger than Obama. Santorum,Gingrich and Romney have equally asked for more trouble in the Middle East not less.

      • http://liberty Tony

        To eddie47d:
        Actually sir, those other candidates Santorum, Romney, Gangrene will get us involved in a war faster with Iran than Obama. Just food
        for thought. Thanks!!

      • Michael J.

        Tony,
        Then vote for Ron Paul and Andrew Napolitano 2012.

      • COAL MINER

        Torah-True Jews:
        A Website for Seekers of Truth About Zionism

        By contrast, we anti-Zionist Jews having been doing all we can to reduce … see Israel as the biggest threat to world peace caused outrage among Israelis.” …
        http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/index.cfm

        A Website for Seekers of Truth About Zionism

        By contrast, we anti-Zionist Jews having been doing all we can to reduce … see Israel as the biggest threat to world peace caused outrage among Israelis.” …
        http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/index.cfm

      • TheOtherWhiteMeat

        Yup, I remember as far back as carter talking about being independent of foreign oil; talk’s cheap-about $106/barrel cheap.

      • Mark in LA

        OtherWhiteMeat – Carter had a comprehensive energy plan. Yeah, a lot of money would have been wasted on half-baked schemes. I think in-sitru cracking of the oil in shale was one of them. It has been so long who can reemember every detail. However, after Carter we had an imbecile in the White House that thought a better use of the money would be for weapons systems that were never deployed or cancelled like the Divad gun and the A-10. Does anybody remember who that moron was?

      • Joe H

        Mark in LALA land,
        Reagan was less of a moron that this present “occupier” of the US! I made a hell of a lot more money during thse times than now! i had a lot less worries about the condition of my country than now, as well!! how many wars or conflicts did Reagan get us involved in?? how many conflicts has Odumberer gotten us involved in?? Libya, Africa, now possibly Iran??? Oh, I guess I shouldn’t forget the possibility of syria as well. BTW did you hear that Kofi Anan was appointed special envoy to syria??? good Idea that. The African nato troops under Kofi’s command raped, murdered and molested both women and children in Africa, why now send him to a country where they are killing WOMEN AND CHILDREN!!! Good Idea, THAT!!!

      • Mark in LA

        Joe that you made more money is irrelevant. All the policies designed to destroy the middle class were started or their propaganda campaigns were started under Reagan – massive immigration starting with his amnesty, guest workers, free trade, and financial deregulation. These are all NWO policies. These all destroyed the wage scales of working Americans and started the downward slide of the working class in addition to making deficits permanent. In addition, he did nothing to stop the leftist slide in government and elsewhere. He did nothing to stop or even slow down political correctness, it entrenched itself further under him. He never did abolish the Department of Education. He expanded affirmative action and gave “disadvantaged” status to Hassidic Jews and East Asians(Indians). He brought the neocons into the executive branch where they did their evil.

        Do some real research about this mediocre useless gasbag mouthpiece for corporate fascism instead of braying the same old crap you hear from Rush Limbaugh about how “great” he was without ever having one single concrete example of this greatrness.

      • Joe H

        Mark,
        What do they use to determine the different classes?? MONEY, INCOME!!! get a clue and quit letting your hatred of Reagan run you life!!!

      • Mark in LA

        Joe you are the one that needs the clue. I am just posting facts about Reagan and his policies. You are the morons in a fantasyland view of Reagan. You wonder why the middle class is disappeariing and make all sorts of stupid conclusions based on “socialism” or the Democrats when you aren’t smart enough to see that the policies endorsed by the Republican party are the same ones they used starting in the 1890s to destroy the labor movement then with the same results in the same timeframe as today – a massive concentration of wealth leading to constriction of the flow of money leading to the death of the middle class leading to the depression. It’s too bad you have no analytical skills beyond that of a 6th grader.

        That is the real problem with most Americans, thay are no more knowledgable or intelligent or inquisitive than you. The politicians love you that way.

        And of course you are free to try to actually disprove what I said about Reagan’s policies. However, that would take research and not “what you know” and so you either won’t bother and if you did, would still believe your fairy tales about Reagan.

        I have links to what I post. My preference is not to post them because morons like you will call me names without anything to back it up. Then I pull out the cites just to show everybody what an imbecile you are – such fun!. Here are a few just to let you know:

        http://nber.nber.org/~peat/PapersFolder/Papers/SG/NSF.html

        http://reformed-theology.org/html/issue11/dont_blame_liberals.htm

        http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/1993/11/em371-the-north-american-free-trade-agreement

      • http://gravatar.com/brian69 brian69Weetbix

        Torah-True Jews.

        I don’t believe that you are Jewish at all. You are in fact a sympathizer for Hezbollah.
        There is only one democracy in the Middle East. Israel. There is only one set of peoples that want Israel totally destroyed. The Isamists.

        To assist these people we get people like yourselves to say that Israel is the problem, and keep repeating it day after day. (Joseph Goebbels school of public speaking).

        It is the Arab nation that wishes to destroy Israel, not the other way around. It is Islam that wishes death to all non Muslims, not the other way around.

  • http://gravatar.com/revnowwhilewecan RevNowWhileWeCan

    Sam, If we’re tiptoeing towards a conflict with Iran then we’re walking on an old wooden floor covered with bubblewrap. I think most of us have seen this coming a mile away. This is an election year ya know, I also like how the “machine” is out in full force saying that a war with Iran will be bad for the Pres. because gas prices will increase. Boy, they sure know how to cover all of the bases don’t they?

  • Sirian

    There are so many different avenues leading to a confrontation with Iran it’s difficult anymore to know just which one will be taken. It may appear as this, then, it changes and it’s that. Without question it has almost, if not near politically contractual, customary for politicians to invoke a “police action” or full scale war during an election year. An easy way to rally the people behind them to secure their position. As I’ve said before, cut off the head of the snake and leave the rest to the people of Iran. They would move in either one of two directions – a realignment with a just non-theological based form of government or a continuation of an insane commitment to their 12th Imam.

    • css

      Cut off the head of the snake?… Does anyone really know the Iranian president besides what they’ve heard in the media and coming from D.C.? Iran’s president is the one who should be complaining about the insanity coming from Washington and all the nuclear weapons America has. He is actually a humble man who is a servant to his people. He doesn’t accept a presidential salary and lives very modestly, yet Obama and Michele spend taxpayer’s money like there’s no tomorrow.
      What or who gives the American government the right to control the rest of the world while they have thousands of bombs waiting to blow up other countries, but yet they’re worried about Iran having one nuclear weapon? Didn’t they do the same to Iraq and Lybia? Where are those leaders now? Iran has every right to have weapons to protect its people just as any other country does, and it is none of America’s business. A war with Iran will be nothing but a war for oil because the top brass want to control, not only the people on Earth, but all the resources too. It’s nothing but greed and will cause the bloodshed of millions of innocent victims. These wars for oil must stop and anyone who goes to fight in a war against the Iranian people will be doing nothing but killing people to line the pockets of the wealthy elite.

      • Sirian

        css,
        I’m so truly sorry that you have stated what you have, (not really) “Iran’s president is the one who should be complaining about the insanity coming from Washington and all the nuclear weapons America has.” He’s a humble man? A servant to his people? Lord are you indoctrinated. It’s a true shame you can’t question what you’ve been spoon fed.

      • Sirian

        css,
        OK, now then, jump to this and read the article. Then, sit back and THINK!!
        http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/jr-nyquist/former-islamic-insider-offers-warning

      • TIME

        CSS,
        I feel that your post was well presented, as well more in line with the truth.

        But, Oddly many here who claim to be awake, are saddly only sleeping on the other side of their brain all the while thinking that they are somehow awake.

        Yet just how sad is it that millions of humans are such BLOOD THIRSTY beast that follow like sheep, let alone that are 100% totaly clueless as to why they are such.

        The question I have is why is it that so many Americans so willing let alone happy to serve up their children as burnt offerings to the WAR GODS.

        How Bloody sad is that?

      • Sirian

        Time,
        Please read the article link that I provided to css. From that you may draw somewhat of a different conclusion. Utopian stands poorly. Reality is being ignored by you and numerous others. War is always the solution – no, absolutely NO! We are nothing more than “BLOOD THIRSTY” beasts – far from. Yet being it as it may, the present regime in Iran is very much aligned with that – wipe Israel from the face of the map – eliminate the Great Satan (U.S.A.). This has been recorded time after time and you obviously are in a state of indoctrinated utopian denial. You simply cannot understand that once they achieve developing a nuclear weapon they will not, in any form or fashion, resist using it. The levels of theological insanity without question run rampant in Iran. Their prime objective is to reinstate an Islamic Caliphate throughout not only the Mid-East region of the world but the entire world itself. So, if we are “100% totally clueless” then please provide us with the vital information that will counter reality that exists fully. Or are you more aligned with the actions of Prime Minister Chamberlain? Out of kindness, as an alternative information source that you may find interesting, pick up a copy of “SHARIAH – The Threat to America. . . An Exercise in Competitive Analysis Report of Team BII”. Read it and then as I said to css – THINK.

      • Sirian

        Time,
        Just for the heck of it, please read this article that I have provided the link to. It may also give you a different view of the mindset that exists in the Mid-East. Be sure to read the very last line in the article.
        http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/02/another_saudi_christian_in_big_trouble.html

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        css,
        Seriously.!?! Did you just start watching the news last week? In the summer of 2005, right after he was elected Ahmadinejad said that he believed that the end of the world was just a few years away. He said he was chosen by allah to hasten the coming of the islamic messiah, the 12th imam or mahdi by launching a holy war against the Christians and the Jews. He publicly vowed it annihilate the United States and wipe Israel off the map. In the 2005 U.N. General assembly he publicly prayed for allah to hasten the emergence of the 12th imam. Six months later he announced in a televised address that they had successfully enriched uranium. He is not just a nice guy who has been misunderstood. He’s not a victim of anyone! He certainly is not a humble man! He has stated that he was specifically chosen by allah. He has stated that he’s going to kill us all and bring about the end of the world! In fact he has been saying it over and over! Why don’t you believe him?!? Our govt. plays a lot of dirty games. I’m not saying that they aren’t evil too, but don’t underestimate our enemies! They want to kill us!

      • Sirian

        Time,
        An additional article that I feel you and css should read.
        http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/02/the_iranian_plan_to_annihilate_the_jews.html

      • eddie47d

        I also don’t agree than Ahmadinejad is a humble leader. The Ayatollah doesn’t even like him. Yet to say we have a right to assassinate their leader is somewhat crass and absurd. Why do you think Ahmadinejad now wants to infiltrate our country and do the same to our leaders. Warmongering solves nothing and only encourages an equal mindset. North Korea threatens us and South Korea all the time with phony bluster. It’s getting rather boring and childish listening to the moronic rants on all sides.

      • TML

        Sirian says, “the present regime in Iran is very much aligned with that – wipe Israel from the face of the map – eliminate the Great Satan (U.S.A.). This has been recorded time after time and you obviously are in a state of indoctrinated utopian denial.”

        With your regurgitations of “wipe Israel of the map”, I would come closer to saying that you are in a state of indoctrinated utopian denial yourself. Perhaps that’s what TIME was talking about… thinking you’re awake when you’re really not.

        It was Minister David Cameron, who repeated the “wipe Israel off he map” fraud in a speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, using it to qualify his refusal to rule out a military strike on Iran.

        It’s nothing more than a slogan for which to beat the war drums, by suggesting in those words a genocidal attack, when in fact, no such idiom exists in Persian for ‘wipe off the map’.

        Ahmadinejad was quote the late All direct translations agree that Ahmadinejad’s statement should be translated as, “the Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time”.
        Ahmadinejad was quoting the Ayatollah Khomeini in the specific speech under discussion, correctly translated as, “”the Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time”, and compared his desired option – the elimination of “the regime occupying Jerusalem” – with the fall of the Shah’s regime in Iran makes it crystal clear that he is talking about regime change, not the end of Israel.
        Ahmadinejad also never used the word “map,” instead his statement was in the context of time. Ahmadinejad was expressing his future hope that the Zionist regime in Israel would fall by their own corruption in time… not that Iran was going to physically annex the country and its population.
        To claim Ahmadinejad has issued a rallying cry to ethnically cleanse Israel is akin to saying that Churchill wanted to murder all Germans when he stated his desire to crush the Nazis. This is about the demise of a corrupt occupying power, whom have oppressed Iranians for a very long time…. not the deaths of millions of innocent people.
        This is very much the same context of what they speak concerning the Great Satan (America) which toppled their democratic movement by removing Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh through a coup, to re-install a dictator (the Shah) who ruled with an iron fist. Further, America assisted directly, or indirectly, in helping Sadam Huessein gain power to fight again Iran during the nearly decade long Iraq/Iran war. America has oppressed Iranians for so long, how could they not be spiteful of America? How could they see us as liberators? Or spreading democracy?

        Stop letting yourself be so indoctrinated with regurgitated disinformation designed to rally the populace (specifically the Christian populace) to war.

      • TML

        (Ugh, I hate typos. How bout a modify button on these comment boards? :) )

        Sirian says, “the present regime in Iran is very much aligned with that – wipe Israel from the face of the map – eliminate the Great Satan (U.S.A.). This has been recorded time after time and you obviously are in a state of indoctrinated utopian denial.”

        With your regurgitations of “wipe Israel of the map”, I would come closer to saying that you are in a state of indoctrinated utopian denial yourself. Perhaps that’s what TIME was talking about… thinking you’re awake when you’re really not.

        It was Minister David Cameron, who repeated the “wipe Israel off he map” fraud in a speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, using it to qualify his refusal to rule out a military strike on Iran.

        It’s nothing more than a slogan for which to beat the war drums, by suggesting in those words a genocidal attack, when in fact, no such idiom exists in Persian for ‘wipe off the map’.

        Ahmadinejad was quoting the Ayatollah Khomeini in the specific speech under discussion, correctly translated as, “”the Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time”, and compared his desired option – the elimination of “the regime occupying Jerusalem” – with the fall of the Shah’s regime in Iran makes it crystal clear that he is talking about regime change, not the end of Israel.

        Ahmadinejad also never used the word “map,” instead his statement was in the context of time. Ahmadinejad was expressing his future hope that the Zionist regime in Israel would fall by their own corruption in time… not that Iran was going to physically annex the country and its population.

        To claim Ahmadinejad has issued a rallying cry to ethnically cleanse Israel is akin to saying that Churchill wanted to murder all Germans when he stated his desire to crush the Nazis. This is about the demise of a corrupt occupying power, whom have oppressed Iranians for a very long time…. not the deaths of millions of innocent people.

        This is very much the same context of what they speak concerning the Great Satan (America) which toppled their democratic movement by removing Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh through a coup, to re-install a dictator (the Shah) who ruled with an iron fist. Further, America assisted directly, or indirectly, in helping Sadam Huessein gain power to fight again Iran during the nearly decade long Iraq/Iran war. America has oppressed Iranians for so long, how could they not be spiteful of America? How could they see us as liberators? Or spreading democracy?

        Stop letting yourself be so indoctrinated with regurgitated disinformation designed to rally the populace (specifically the Christian populace) to war.

      • Sirian

        TML,
        I have provided three source links to review as a backup to the reasoning in what I stated initially. That plus a book source to read that is very revealing in another area that is also very closely related to the theological mindset and the offensive trend it has taken in the Mid-East and elsewhere. Being that as it may what have I received in return as counter information sources from you, css and Mark in LA??? NONE. Therefore, you are resounding a typical liberal utopian compilation of twisted information that fits most comfortably in your hip pocket. If it gets itchy, scratch your ass and have a good day.

      • TML

        Sirian says, “I have provided three source links to review as a backup to the reasoning in what I stated initially. That plus a book source to read that is very revealing in another area that is also very closely related to the theological mindset and the offensive trend it has taken in the Mid-East and elsewhere.”

        I highly question your sources… especially when “direct quotes from the original piece, which was published in English” give translations such as this, “In the current situation and passiveness of U.S. and the West, Iran should wipe out Israel.” When there is no such idiom in Persian for “wipe out Israel”.

        Your source says, “Today, the first Qibla of the Muslims has been occupied by Israel, a cancerous tumor for the Middle East. Today, Israel is causing division using all evil means. Every Muslim is obliged to equip themselves against Israel. … and since the potential danger is facing the foundations of Islam, it is necessary for the Islamic governments in particular and other Muslims in general to remove this corrupting material by any means.”

        And the problem with this is what? Do we say that Churchill wanted to murder all Germans when he stated his desire to crush the Nazis? This is about the demise of a corrupt occupying power, whom have oppressed Iranians for a very long time…. not the deaths of millions of innocent people.

        Sirian says, “I received in return as counter information … NONE.”

        I’ve given you counter information based on real translations, rather than some news article as your source.

        “Norouzi translated the original Persian to English, with the result, “the Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time. Juan Cole, a University of Michigan Professor of Modern Middle East and South Asian History, agrees that Ahmadinejad’s statement should be translated as, “the Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad)”
        “Ahmadinejad was quoting the Ayatollah Khomeini”
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel

        http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/did-ahmadinejad-really-say-israel-should-be-wiped-off-the-map/2011/10/04/gIQABJIKML_blog.html

        http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/260107offthemap.htm

        Sirian says, “Therefore, you are resounding a typical liberal utopian compilation of twisted information that fits most comfortably in your hip pocket”

        Not a typical liberal utopian compilation of twisted information – it’s facts.

        Getting’ ichy yet? ;)

      • TML

        Sirian says, “I have provided three source links to review as a backup to the reasoning in what I stated initially. That plus a book source to read that is very revealing in another area that is also very closely related to the theological mindset and the offensive trend it has taken in the Mid-East and elsewhere. Being that as it may what have I received in return as counter information sources from you, css and Mark in LA??? NONE. Therefore, you are resounding a typical liberal utopian compilation of twisted information that fits most comfortably in your hip pocket. If it gets itchy, scratch your ass and have a good day.”

        As a side note, I noticed you did not respond directly to anything that I posted. After you’re done scratching, engage the conversation with something other than ad hominem, in regards to my statements, and we can begin having meaningful discussion.

      • TIME

        Sirian,

        I will be frank with you, I have been overseas a lot, so I have a very solid backround in human relations with all kinda of people from all over the world.
        Thus what I stated is what it is, you can take it or you can leave it.
        I know many people from the Middle East, how strange is it that not a single one wants to have any wars with anyone for any reason.
        Just like in Lybia in 2011, we allowed the mass murder of countless Libians by Nato merks and why was that again? They wanted Gold for OIL? OMG…. Really they didn’t want our worthless paper so we invaded them and killed them, wow thats just great.

        PLEASE – Don’t be a tool of the Zionist media and Corporations such as the Bank of London, the Vatican, or the US Inc.
        Learn to do far deeper investigations than just at the surface level.

        Do you grasp that the NDAA made YOU a target how mush clearer do you need it to be? Was the Patriot Act not strong enough to wake you up? Is SOPA not enough? What will it take to wake you up? Your being used to hate other Humans for no reason other than they have a product that the NWO wants for FREE so they can RAPE YOU.

        All the wars we have been fighting since 9/11 have been pre planed as outlined by Jimmy Carter’s paper noted as WW III 2000 plus, written in 1978.
        9/11/ 01 was the opening of WWIII by Daddy Bush with his statment we are entering the age of the “New World Order.”
        Then Bill Clinton brought us in 1992, Agenda 21, the population reduction plan for the 12st Century by way of GREENING. Hello….

        Learn the TRUTH’s then all the LIES will stand out like a beacon as to what they are.

        Again, Iran is no threat to you nor anyone. Just as YOU are no threat to anyone.

        PEACE & LOVE to all my Brothers & Sisters. I beg you all to wake up before its too late.

      • Joe H

        css,
        A man that insists that the holocaust never happened a HUMBLE man??!?!?! Are you nuts??? A man that has said he would relish seeing Isreal wiped off the face of the map, a HUMBLE man?!?!?!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

      • Joe H

        TML,
        how do you explain that very slogal draped over the nose of missiles on parade inIran??? And what would you say they MEAN by removed from the records of time? What do they mean by a black plague in the middle east called the zionist Jews that has to be destroyed??

      • TML

        Joe says, “how do you explain that very slogal draped over the nose of missiles on parade inIran???”

        Image, please?
        Do understand that there is a cultural difference… Iranians saying, “Death to ‘this or that’”, is the same as saying, “Damn ‘this or that’” in America.

        Joe says, “And what would you say they MEAN by removed from the records of time? What do they mean by a black plague in the middle east called the zionist Jews that has to be destroyed??”

        I will repeat it for you here:

        “Ahmadinejad was quoting the Ayatollah Khomeini in the specific speech under discussion, correctly translated as, “”the Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time”, and compared his desired option – the elimination of “the regime occupying Jerusalem” – with the fall of the Shah’s regime in Iran makes it crystal clear that he is talking about regime change, not the end of Israel.

        Ahmadinejad also never used the word “map,” instead his statement was in the context of time. Ahmadinejad was expressing his future hope that the Zionist regime in Israel would fall by their own corruption in time… not that Iran was going to physically annex the country and its population.

        To claim Ahmadinejad has issued a rallying cry to ethnically cleanse Israel is akin to saying that Churchill wanted to murder all Germans when he stated his desire to crush the Nazis. This is about the demise of a corrupt occupying power, whom have oppressed Iranians for a very long time…. not the deaths of millions of innocent people.

        This is very much the same context of what they speak concerning the Great Satan (America) which toppled their democratic movement by removing Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh through a coup, to re-install a dictator (the Shah) who ruled with an iron fist. Further, America assisted directly, or indirectly, in helping Sadam Huessein gain power to fight again Iran during the nearly decade long Iraq/Iran war. America has oppressed Iranians for so long, how could they not be spiteful of America? How could they see us as liberators? Or spreading democracy?”

    • Mark in LA

      So much stupidity in one post but lets just use this:

      As I’ve said before, cut off the head of the snake and leave the rest to the people of Iran.

      This is an act of war and what happens after it nobody knows. Only idiots think there would be some kind of change of government after an act like this that would turn out the way we want. What happens when they assassinate our leaders or if their people decide they are sick of our bullying and start a war in the Middle East. You, nor any of you arm chair “thinkers”, has any clue what will happen – the same as you didn’t know about what would happen in Iraq.

      • Sirian

        Mark in LA,
        So what is your armchair solution to this problem that the Iranian people are living with? Then again, do you have one? If so, please post it. Please provide a sourced base for your rhetoric. Also, please read the article link that I posted for css. From that alone, by chance, may be sufficient to understand as to what and why I’ve said what I’ve said. If not, then you too are not accustomed to the use of critical, comparative thinking. If you would use a thinking process of that nature you may be able to remember that the Iranian people, millions, were protesting in the streets of Tehran and elsewhere in objection to the last rigged election. So, it isn’t necessarily what we want, it has been quite evident that it is what they (the Iranian people) want. If you deny that then presumedly you are more of an indoctrinated armchair thinker than you realize.

      • Mark in LA

        You posted nothing but somebody else’s opinion – which does not make it a fact. My advice is to do nothing, Iran is no threat to us. When they have reached such a place then we will deal with them the same way we delt with the USSR only more intelligently. I have opinion pieces too. There is a new one in “The New American” titled “Is it nuts to let Iran go nuclear?”. In it they give evidence that Iran is a long way from threatening us and by the time they can ballistic missiles may not be a viable delivery system. Since you take everything you read as fact this must be a fact as well.

      • Joe H

        Mark,
        the problems in the middle east are none of our business till they try to attack US!!! Isreal, on the other hand, HAS been attacked by them and has the right to defend themselves. Just for the group that thinks Isreal is trying to drag us into their war, just this week Isreal sent a message to the US; “MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS”!!!! That sure as hell doesn’t sound like a nation trying to pull us into ANYTHING to me!!

  • http://personallibertydigest gottaplenty

    The oldest game at election time has always been to keep the people on edge over a war or impending war so we cant change potus; . I have lived through many elections and its a broken record.Polititions know from experience the voters memory isnt any longer than his nose so any thing he can put out to sound like he can save you from the impending disaster will be accepted ,and keep him in office. Even in time of relative peaceful times you could always tell when it was election year. Somebody was about to attac America.

  • Raggs

    oblama has to keep the sheeple dumb and stupid so he can usurp the election without so much as a whimper from the masses of blank faced dumb minded voters…. a “new” war will secure oblama with millions of votes from the illegals and from the dead that will go un-noticed and un-challenged. Or prehaps he is planning on suspending the election because America is “under attack”… America is under attack but it’s not from Iran, it is from the white house.

  • skeeve

    Much of this is true, however i am more worried about the more immediate threat against americans by our own government. The basis being the attempt to make the constitution invalid. i wonder why it has not occurred to them that the moment the constitution becomes an invalid document, they cease being a valid government and instead become a totalitarian regime to be destroyed, the same as the rest of the dictators.

    • Raggs

      Here Here… I agree it is only a matter of time thats all just a matter of time. The government wants a total domination of the entire world and they have to destroy our constitution in order to control us and when that happems ALL crap will hit the fan.

    • Old Gringo

      skeeve, as I have posted previously, who is going to come to the aid of the American People when they rise up against our totalian Government?

      • Joe H

        Old Gringo,
        I’ll bet it won’t be France again!!!! If the people of England have any say, it won’t be THEWM, either!!!

  • Lawrence

    THERE ARE MANY REASONS, ALL OF THEM BAD, TO START A WAR WITH iRAN.
    THE CURRENT DICTATOR IN CHIEF WILL DO ANYTHING TO BE RE-ELECTED OVER THE DEAD BODIES OF OUR SOLDIERS AND THE PEOPLE OF IRAN.

    • John Tedford

      Lawrence, you are right about Obama. Should Obama get us into a war with Iran., he and congress should be impeached, the ones who voted for war deserved to be removed from office right now. It is in our interest to stay out of the middle east. The American people have no interest there. The big danger is Israel starting the war with Iran, and Russia backs Iran which could lead to WW3. Israel wants the U.S. to protect and defend their country. Lets dump Israel and put America first. We cannot afford another war, it would be disasterous for us . Prices of gas and food would go out of sight and people in the U.S. could face starvation. The middle east war could go nuclear. I remember Vietnam. I was drafted into that war. It did a lot of damage to our country. I will not support any administration Democrat or Republican thats favors war with Iran.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        John,
        You contradict yourself. First you say that the American people have no interest there. Then you say, prices of gas and food would go out of sight and people in the U. S. could face starvation. That is our interest! That and defending our allies. If we cannot be counted on to defend our allies then neither can they be counted on to defend us. That being said, I do agree with some of what you said. The problem is that they have let things go to far to stop them now. We are all in danger and nothing we do will reverse that. The rulers of this world seem hell bent on destroying it. The rest of us are just along for the ride. You have ideas for what the leaders should do or not do. But do you have any ideas for those of us who can only control our own actions? Our leaders do not listen to us nor do they represent us!

      • Joe H

        Ok, Nancy,
        Since you support the idea of war with iran so much, can we count on YOUR kids and grand kids being among the first to go??? Or will you leave that to others?? My family has served in every war, conflict,and police action this nation has been in. I’m tired of investing lives! I vote AGAINST us going to iran and I abstain from sending any kids till ALL who support this insanity send THEIRS!!

  • James

    Simply amazing these days when no one can remember before 1990. We have been fighting the Persians, Iran if you wish, since 1979 when they grabbed our embassy. Remember the old lunatic Ayatollah that hid out in France all those years? Amanutjob is cut from the same fabric as that old lunatic was.

    • Mark in LA

      I guess history doesn’t go back to the 50′s for you when we deposed their elected government and put the Shaw in place to grab their oil.

  • eddie47d

    The best solution is to keep demanding that Iran abide by the IAEA with inspections. Russia,China and the USA have inspections and so should they. I also believe that Iran has a right to defend itself from foreign threats whether from the US or Israel. Neither side should think this is an one sided poker game and only one side holds the cards. Iran isn’t ours to control anymore than the old Soviets had a right to dominate Eastern Europe. Iran’s oil is theirs and our oil is ours and those issue have to be handled economically and not through war. Considering that Israel bombed a nuke power plant in Syria and in Iraq maybe they should be looked at as the aggressor. If I was Iran I’d be a little nervous about Israel being the loose cannon.

    • COAL MINER

      eddie47d

      Very well said.
      U.S. Wrongly Demonizes Iran, But Ignores Nuclear Weapons Countries India, Pakistan, and Israel
      By Karl Lindemann

      “U.S. foreign policy is obsessed with demonizing Iran. It has been since the pro-American Shah was popularly overthrown in 1979. From instigating wars to military attacks and the present economic sanctions, the American government seems hell-bent on punishing a society who revolted against a pro-American despot. Our latest move — the economic sanctions — is ostensibly in direct response to Iran’s continued pursuit of nuclear technology. However, given the very low likelihood of an Iranian preemptive attack, and other countries that pose more of a potential threat to international peace, the U.S. should be focusing its nonproliferation efforts elsewhere.
      As with any country that is attempting to develop its nuclear technology, Iran should be monitored. But the current U.S. policies are completely unwarranted. Iran has not preemptively attacked another country in over a century, and has made no indications that it plans to change this pattern anytime soon. The Iranian government understands it is vastly outmatched by the U.S. and Israeli armed forces, which would pose an existential threat to Iran in any armed conflict. Much of the war mongering in the media, which as of late has switched from “if” to “when” Israel will attack Iran, points to the oft-quoted line by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in which he said Israel should be “wiped off the map.” However, what Ahmadinejad said in Persian was actually meant to imply that the Israeli regime should be dismantled, a far cry from all-out war.
      Instead of focusing on Iran, the U.S. should pragmatically turn its eye to three nuclear powers that have not signed the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT): Israel, India, and Pakistan. In contrast with Iran, Israel has started a number of wars, including two within the last six years. While it has been attacked, most notably during the October War of 1973, Israel is guilty of invading other countries on numerous occasions. During its last two wars alone, Israel killed around 2,000 civilians in Southern Lebanon and the Gaza Strip, not including its numerous isolated attacks on Gaza. And now, war drums are beating amongst the Israeli defense brass for its next offensive, targeting Iran. When one objectively looks at who will be more likely to use a nuclear device in the near future, Israel seems a more likely candidate.
      Both India and Pakistan are also nuclear powers that are currently engaged in a bitter war of (mostly) words, mainly concerning the disputed territory of Kashmir. While there has not been serious conflict between these two countries in some time, they are two additional states with nuclear weapons that are not NPT signatories (the last is North Korea), and definitely warrant more concern and pressure from the U.S. government than does Iran.
      If it wants to have a logically-consistent international policy in an effort to limit nuclear proliferation, it would make more sense for the U.S. to shift its focus towards the nuclear powers of Israel, India and Pakistan that have not signed the NPT, rather than Iran, which has signed the NPT, and whose nuclear weapons program is very much in doubt”

  • dennis

    Armed Conflict? What we should do if that gets started is immediately target ALL of Iran’s nuclear and military facilities, bases, etc., and blow them into smithereens. Also immediately sink all of their surface warships and submarines. Actually we should be doing this right now.

    • Joe H

      Dennis,
      What is it about IT IS NONE OF OUR BUSINESS, do you not understand?? Bet your kids are either too young or too old to go, right??

  • Raggs

    I don’t think that oblama will do anything, he is not going to go against his moooslum brothers.

    • eddie47d

      Libya?

      • Joe H

        eddie,
        Mooooslim brotherhood????

  • NOBAMA2012

    A few have stated that our Government is currently more of a threat to us than Iran. A few have questioned “Who would come to America’s Aid if our Constitution was abolished thus creating a Totalitarian Nation.
    With the actions of this Administration especially Hillary Clinton and Obama’s involvement with pushing for Agenda 21 and NWO which will obviously effect the rest of the world and with the things this Administration has already done to damage Foreign relations with many of our Allies as well as enemies. I believe there would be plenty of support from foreign Countries to come wipe out the current Administration if a Revolution was to break out.
    Like it or not, America is hated in many Countries, Not necessarily the People of America that they hate since the citizens have very little to do with what the Government does with Foreign Relations. Foreign Countries hate the American Government and Policies in which the American Government attempt to force on other Countries.

    Give them a chance to assist in over throwing this Government, They would be here in a heart beat I bet.

  • COAL MINER

    Torah-True Jews:
    A Website for Seekers of Truth About Zionism

    By contrast, we anti-Zionist Jews having been doing all we can to reduce … see Israel as the biggest threat to world peace caused outrage among Israelis.” …
    http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/index.cfm

    Sorry about the double print.

  • Jose A Guerra

    How can anyone not hate us? The biggest problem I see is that we lost respect for the entire world as humans!! You hear time and time how terrible is to hurt or even intent to hurt an american citizen (which I agree), but that implies that anybody else that gets hurt is a collateral issue is irrelevant or has no true value. Look at the Iraq war, People say it was a mistake going in to Iraq because there were no WMD found. Yet in the context of the speech there seems to be no sympathy or remorse of any damage implied to ordinary people who are completely disavowed from politics and international affairs and people who do acknowledge this not even apologize for it. Not that is really mattered because I wonder how anyone would feel if they lost your entire family based on false information and then only heard an apologize if any. Then you hear the politicians say that we’re being attacked for being prosperous and free. This is preposterous… I truly hope we come to our senses, rethink our strategy and realize that aside of our land tags we are still humans no matter the color, place of birth th gender etc… and deserve decent treatment.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    The war with Iran has actually started. It is just the question of when the wider shooting war begins!

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    The year 2012 may become known as a watershed for humanity – the year when mankind was precipitated into a global conflagration involving nuclear weapons. The signs are indeed grimly ominous as formidable military forces converge on the Persian Gulf in the long-running stand-off between the United States and Iran.

    On side with the US are its European allies in NATO, primarily Britain, Washington’s Middle East client states: Israel and the Arab monarchies of the Persian Gulf – all bristling with weapons of mass destruction. Recent naval exercises by Iran in the Strait of Hormuz have also displayed a fierce arsenal of missiles and military capability, and Iran has
    strategic alliances with Russia and China, both of whom will not stand idly by if their Persian partner is attacked.

    The conflict between the US-led powers and Iran has wider ramifications. It is part and parcel of Washington’s bid to engineer the social and political upheavals across the Arab World in order to redraw the region in its strategic interests. It is no coincidence that fresh from NATO’s conquest of and regime change in Libya, the focus has quickly shifted to Syria – a key regional ally of Iran. As Michel Chossudovsky has pointed out “the road to Tehran goes through to Damascus”. Regime change in Syria would serve to isolate Iran.

    Subjugating Iran and returning it to Western tutelage is the prize that Washington and its allies have been seeking for the past 33 years ever since their client the Shah, Mohammad Rezā Pahlavi, was deposed by the Islamic Revolution in 1979.

    http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28675

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    In 2010 the FBI invaded the homes of peace activists in several states and seized personal possessions in what the FBI–the lead orchestrator of fake “terrorist plots”–called an investigation of “activities concerning the material support of terrorism.”

    Subpoenas were issued to compel antiwar protestors to testify before grand juries as prosecutors set about building their case that opposing Washington’s wars of aggression constitutes giving aid and comfort to terrorists. The purpose of the raids and grand jury subpoenas was to chill the anti-war movement into inaction.

    Last week in one fell swoop the last two remaining critics of Washington/Tel Aviv imperialism were removed from the mainstream media. Judge Napolitano’s popular program, Freedom Watch, was cancelled by Fox TV, and Pat Buchanan was fired by MSNBC. Both pundits had wide followings and were appreciated for speaking frankly.

    Many suspect that the Israel Lobby used its clout with TV advertisers to silence critics of the Israeli government’s efforts to lead Washington to war with Iran. Regardless, the point before us is that the voice of the mainstream media is now uniform. Americans hear one voice, one message, and the message is propaganda. Dissent is tolerated only on such issues as to whether employer-paid health benefits should pay for contraceptive devices. Constitutional rights have been replaced with rights to free condoms.

    http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29383

    • Joe H

      Jay,
      Is there something hard to understand about Isreal’s message to the US this week??? “UNITED STATES, MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!! does tTHAt sound like Isreal is trying to drag us into anything???

      • Joe H

        Check it out!
        fightingforliberty.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=…-cached

      • Joe H

        i don’t know what went wrong but it will not come up. just type into your search engine message to US and Russia this week ” Mind your own business” and it will come up!

  • http://gravatar.com/carolinerh carolinerh

    Frankly we need to get out of Iraq, Afghanistan, and every other country and bring our people home, save huge sums of money paid to those who hate us, and if there is an assassination, I will allow Iran to take ours out. He is useless, a liar, a do-nothing but butt in on our American way of life, doesn’t have 2 ozs. of brain (uses mostly the frump’s), and does whatever he is told to do. He has lied his whole life and created havoc wherever he landed, and I hope those who voted for him are very happy with the outcome! Idiots everywhere will vote for another idiot. Leave Iran alone. Support Israel when they take out the government there. I have Iranians friends and they don’t give a damn if someone does something for their country, but let us not spend our time, efforts and money on it – let someone else in the world do it. We have not been attacked, so therefore no cause to do anything!

    • Raggs

      Thats not going to happen.. oblama is the worlds head of islam…

    • Sandra

      Did you forget 9/11/2001????Please don’t feign that we have never been attacked,..
      I agree with you/bring everyone home..we do need to quit policing the world for political favours and oil, obviously this causes more corruption in our own government which is very prevalent. So many people are going thru life with blinders on and believing we are in a recovery, PLEASE!!! Just more propaganda by the media. My opinion…the United States needs to just BUTT OUT per request, and oh my …the plotting against us Just Might Cease!!!

  • DONALD SAMS

    THIS IS THE PERSON WHO HELD 50 PEOPLE HOSTAGE OVER 330 PLUS DAYS DURING THE CARTER ADMINISTRATION.HE WAS WALKING DOWN STEPS WITH THE BLIND FOLDED AMERICAN,AFTER FAILED ATTEMPT TO RESCUE.PLANES CRASHED INTO EACH OTHER.

    • Joe H

      Donald,
      This is also the man that met the Lockerbie bomber as he walked down the steps of the plane and embraced him!!! but he’s such a GOOD man!!!

    • Mark in LA

      Yes and Reagan was the man who lied to us about needing to be in Beirut and getting 279 Marines killed for no reason then lying to us about Grenada so he could invade to make us forget Beirut and 9 more Americans died needlessly in a helicopter crash. Bush I was the man who lied to us about Saddam Hussein and got Americans killed in Iraq needlessly to bolster his reelection chances. He lied to us about Somalia and Americans died. Clinton lied to us about Kosovo and innocent people died because we thought we had the word of God on our side and knew who the bad guys were. Bush II lied to us about Afghanistan and Iraq and 5000 Americans died. Obama lied to us about getting out of the war and more Americans died.

      And your point is?

  • Thinking About

    Iran had a close threat who would have loved to strike them but in doing honor to his Dad w managed to get the threat removed so now we have the results of that. Just one battle we have to look to because of attacking Iraq. Also, this plays into the doomsday followers, somebody has to start their wars for them. I wonder if any of the preppers ever thought about who was going to take care of them in their old age. Probably are going to need the assistance and by their theory we will be dead.

    • Joe H

      TA,
      Why don’t you try taking supplies from those OLD PREPPERS!!!! I’d love to watch THAT comedy of errors!!!

      • Thinking About

        It might be taking away drool, don’t think everyone gets out of this world and don’t need assistance. In those times I doubt they will be worrying about much of anything.

  • hitthedeck

    Regan knew how to stop a big mouth dictator and make them craw into a corner. He put a bomb down Kaddafi’s Chimney. The Iranian people should not be punished because they have bad ruthless leaders. They are already being punished and had asked Obama for help but Obama looked the other way. Put an end to Iran’s tyrants and drop a bunker bomb on their underground nuclear factory while their leaders are on an inspection tour. Our intelligence in Iran can give our military the date and time to strike. Do a number on the generals in Iranian Republican guard at the same time. After the smoke clears ask who is left if they want more because if they do, we have their addresses. I do believe that that is what President Regan would do but the Islam appeaser in the Whitehouse would rather say please to make liberals think he is a nice guy.

    • Mark in LA

      Yes Reagan knew what to do, sell chemical weapons technology to a dictator and sell weapons to another dictator fighting the first one.

      • Joe H

        Mark,
        PROOF that Reagan sold Chemical weapons to anyone????

      • Mark in LA

        Once again Joe proves himself a Republican stooge incapable of even the most basic research. Even the most ardent Reagan worshipper no longer denies that the technology for these weapons was procured by Iraq from us when Reagan was President because they are tired of being proven to be idiots by everybody else.

        http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0908-08.htm

  • chuckb

    hitthedeack, barry has a difficult time to decide which of his brother muslim to hit, why do you think it took him 18 hours to decide to kill bin laden or not.
    barry is a black muslim and his heart lies with mohammad, you will note he doesn’t get concerned when the muslims wipe out any christian community..
    iran will be safe until either the jews take action on their own or we have a new president….

  • smokenbudesq

    bastard war pigs who make us kill each other must be laughing at us

    stupid sheep with no chance only death

    better put the military out of service before they take this any futher

    planet earth does not need leaders

    not the fakes we have right now world wide

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  • http://comcast.net Dave Bishop

    One more tripline to war that could point to a total “New World Order.” With China and Russia lurking in the shadows and some of their military probably lurking inside -or at least close to the borders- it could be problematic. We have a strong military, well-trained, but nowhere close to being ready to join a pitched battle with Iran and her allies. Granted, Israel is formidable, but it, too, could be in deep trouble if it pushes too hard.

    One has to wonder if this is the war that ushers in Armageddon, but
    we will not know until it begins. The Bible tells us that Israel will have no allies to depend on except Almighty God in the great battle. And it’s obvious that Mr. Obama does not really want to side with Israel. Interesting times are a-comin’!

  • http://Google.com Ben R. Rodriguez

    Happen that decades ago, at the time the Shah was terminated, I had to replace a colleage of mine. Was opportunity to visit the nation, that had many historical roots. What I learned about the realities, when I visit several families, was factual and supported events that no Nation will acept. We are certain that the worse action for the United States, will be to generate a nerw war, of the caliber that may reach 7 to 10 times the cost of Iraq venture, poorly planned, badly executed. Now thge reconstruction phase must begin, and the cost, at this time via the State Dept will be paid by all in the USA.
    For reasons indicated, we feel certain that better via diplomatic actions, that bombs and boots on the ground. The past cost per year in Iraq, was $ 1,250,000 dls per soldier on terrain. With 400,000 x 3 = 1,200,000 per year the total cost becomes astronomic. If the USA must act, I am certain that Pres. Obama will have better information, and he may act accordingly. We must remenber that at the time Mr. Mandela was incharge of South Africa, the total instalation for uraniun oxcide that was operaranting at Balidaba, West of Pretoria was transferred to Israel, including eight ready to use, tested nuclear bombs. How can Israel complain that Iran may be working in similar ends… We do not see diferences, only huge amounts of propaganda to create a new war, that Israel will never cover the cost of such venture, far beyon the USA, Israel, and European Economic Community, capacity to generate such actions without the approval of the United Nation Security Council.

  • Questioner

    Sam Rolley, next time take the Iranian nut case out when he goes to the UN. Do you have the moxie or is your talk just Chutzpah?

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